In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles is joined by co-host Brent Allen Winters and his producer Francine for a lively and spontaneous discussion. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, from the historical and legal intricacies of the United States government and its constitution to personal anecdotes about life on the farm. Brent shares insights into the common law tradition, emphasizing the importance of understanding the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. The episode also touches on the role of the federal government, the significance of the 14th Amendment, and the concept of sovereignty in the United States.
Listeners are treated to a mix of historical analysis, legal commentary, and personal stories, including a humorous recounting of farm life and animal husbandry. The hosts engage with callers, addressing questions about national identity, the role of birth certificates, and the implications of federal jurisdiction. Throughout the episode, the importance of understanding foundational legal principles and the impact of historical events on current governance is highlighted, offering listeners a blend of education and entertainment.
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There we go. Here we go. Another stab at it per se on the Friday edition of the Radio Ranch. Of course, that includes a cohost guy named Brent Winters, Brent Allen Winters, who's been hanging around here and doing these programs with me for more years than either one of us would like to remember, I'm pretty sure. Long time. And, of course, it is the May 2 edition here. We have, Brent's producer, the lovely and charming Francine with us. Morning, Franny. Good morning. And, glad to have you as always. And as always, you have no idea what we're gonna get into today because it's all spontaneous. Best way to do any kind of a program. But before we get into any spontaneity, Paul get comes out, and we want to give all of our, I hate to use that phrase, all of our friends, a little recognition and credit for helping us extend our reach. And Paul's quite good at that, and he's about the only one that can keep up with them all day to day, quite frankly. So we'll see if we can get him out here again to do it. Good morning, mister Beaner.
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Good morning, Raj. It's good to know everything appears to be working even though I wasn't so sure half hour ago. But Okay. Alright. Here we go. Good. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago, Radio Soapbox and, WBOU join us for the first hour. Got it. And, we, of course, direct them to, grab either the link from Euro Folk Radio or Global Voice Radio and follow us into the second hour. EuroFolkRadio.com is brought to us by pastor Eli James and, Global Voice Radio Network is my pet project, hosted by Podholm, of course, which is where the archives are.
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times, over there on the main sister on the the main the main stick, if you will, and, so we could promote his, his shows also. He's quite prolific in this area. He's not a big fan of our enemies. He has, distinct German heritage and background, and, well, that ought to tell you about all you need to know right there. So, anyway and the, our our our station here, our network, EuroFolk radio was started, initialized, if you will, by Paul English, our buddy, and, Eli crossing paths. And, they getting together and putting this whole thing up, which was the initial primary one of these networks that Paul has assembled. He's done four or five of them now. I think he's working on something else. He's a pretty diligent guy.
So, anyway, you can thank Eli for that. Good morning, Brent. I see the, my co cohost here just showed up. So let's see what, do you have anything to start off with here, Paul, this morning? I did wanted to ask you a question. I sent it to you anyway. Did Samuel happen to copy you on that video on methylene blue yesterday?
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He probably did.
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Well, you had all that problem last night, so you probably didn't even get to check. But when you do, you wanna watch that. It's a medical doctor, some big he just well, he's got a whole cadre of medical doctors surrounding him, and he's been using it and prescribing it to his, patient base for over five years. And in fact, what he does I thank Samuel for finding that. What he has done is overcome one of the main problems that is potential. Anyway, that's a potential problem with methylene blue because you never know the strength you're getting if you're doing a liquid. And because most people water it down, and what they've done is produced a lozinger where you can absolutely, guarantee the dose you're taking, and you put it up inside your, the upper part of your jaw there next to, you know, just a little little well, a little pinch between your cheek and gums there. Remember that, Paul?
And, you kinda do that and put it between your gums there, and you got a blue mouth. So so I don't know what to say. Anyway, he goes over all that. And, one of the things that is about a twenty, twenty five minute video, and he takes questions too, by the way, and and gives answers. And one of them I thought was particularly interesting was, he one of his patients, her mother had dementia. And they started giving her methylene blue, and all of a sudden, all these stories that the family had never heard before started coming out. And the whole family's gathered around her because they're hearing all this family history that she couldn't access before. So little things like that. It's pretty interesting.
Morning, Brent. Hi, Roger. How you doing? I sent it to Brent this morning. Said it might be good for your mom and dad. You ought to watch that, and and see. But, it's a really we've been discussing it around here for a couple of weeks now, pros and cons, And, that's a very good video. I did send it to you. So if you get a chance, you might wanna look at that. How you doing, man? Alright, Roger.
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Yeah. I I don't I didn't know anything about methane, but meth methaneth. What is it? Meth it's like here's my memory pad. Ethylene. Eth ethyl?
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Methyl. So it's methylene butyl. So I always think of ethyl, and I'll get it. It's the it's the first drug ever invented back in the eighteen seventies, and maybe according to even the UN, one of the most effective drugs ever ever brought to mankind. So go look at it. Do your own research. It's very interesting. And, what it seems to do not seems to, it's been proven to, is it goes in and in some of the Northern European branches of, Anglo Saxony, there's some kind of a problem with your mitochondria, which is the energy generator at the cell level. And this stuff evidently straightens out the mitochondria in that problem, and it gives you for some people, it gives you a real clean head. Hey. No brain fog.
And then it but a lot of people comment on that aspect. So no brain fog, and it gives you this energy that's not contaminated like caffeine is where you get the shakes or Red Bull, you know, all that stuff. So, anyway, very interesting. I'd suggest y'all look into it. It's it's pretty inexpensive, and it it, evidently does a lot of pretty good stuff. They use it in cancer treatments also. So, anyway, enough of that. I just wanted to put that in front. Thanks, Samuel, for finding and sending that, by the way.
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Well, you know, I just want people to be careful and know a little bit about stuff, but, you know, it may not be for everybody, but it Mhmm. Could could be critical for some people, and, just wanted to get it out there and get some direction along with it. But the one thing I did do, Rogers, I looked up the cost of his lozenges, and they are quite expensive, unfortunately.
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And for what well, like what's quite expensive?
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Well, you get four lozenges, which she called trochets, and you could split them into four, so that's sixteen doses. So even if you took the and that's that's $27 And so if if you took two doses a day even of this smaller dose, four milligrams, I think, you know, you'd go through that $27 in a few days. So that's Yeah. But it is made in powder form, and it is in caps, but just finding a source that, you know, you're you're getting that and not something else. You know? That's always I have
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I have a feeling with the notoriety of it as of late that there's gonna be, there's some probably some pretty original entrees into the marketplace from people. We'll see. But boy, it is mention in that you
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the the thing he did mention in there, Roger, to make sure you're getting the right stuff is that you get the assay with it, certification or whatever a term he used Yeah. To verify what the strength is. Well He said so.
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Well, unfortunately, I'm down here. I don't I can't it's difficult. You know? It's kind of pain in the rear end for me to get access to stuff from The States. Not too many of y'all are coming down to visit here lately. So I'm sure that's part of economics. And, but I I know ours comes from Columbia, and I'm sure it's watered down. But I just have to do the best I can with what I've got. But, anyway, go take a look at it. What's, let's see. I don't have that right up on my screen. I can probably get it, but there's a YouTube twenty minute or so interview that Samuel dug up and sent out with this talk we've been having about it lately. And I don't remember the name of it, but, we should probably somebody's sticking in the in the chat. I've been wondering, Roger, I've been wondering, Roger, if you can go to a compounding pharmacy and have it made up for you. I don't know. No. If, if so, you know, I I know the guy I get it from is a doctor here. And, he's got some friends that own a lab, and they make stuff like Epsom salts and all kinds of stuff, so they could probably do that. I might talk to him about that. I sent him a copy of this. But, anyway, I got the methylene blue. Well, yeah. Yes, Dave.
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I just wanna make one comment. What I was what I've learned, years ago about methylene blue, it wasn't a drug when it was invented. It was invented for the textile industry. I think they invented it to dye
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clothing, to dye textile. That's correct. And it's still used for that today. Right.
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So that's a hundred and fifty years later. Used it in medical, labs, and they used it for, you know, looking under microscopes. They'd smear the the the glass with it, you know, so it would everything would be crystal clear Yeah. Through that methylene blue. And then I'm not sure when it they started using it, you know, in the body. I I don't know much about that. But Well, I I just thought that that. This surgeon, this doctor,
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one of his cohorts in the group he's in or whatever, uses it when they do not bladder operations, but they do stuff like hernias and whatever around the bladder. And at the end of the operation, they'll take methylene blue and coat the bladder with it to make sure that he didn't nick the bladder with a scalpel or something and there's no leaks. He specifically used that example. So, yes, we've got all kinds of uses. But, you know, I don't wanna take up the whole show on it, but Brent wasn't here yet. I wanted to mention it was on my mind. But if you're inclined or you're skeptical or whatever, this is a good resource. Maybe somebody will put it in the chat or the, to our, radio, chitanga I got it. Or something.
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So I I got a lead in for Brent.
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Good.
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I was wondering when they castrated pigs, did they use blue coat on them? Because that was, what we used, and I bet you that was methylene blue. Because he says one of the uses they found it good for before penicillin was it was antifungal and active bacteria.
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Mhmm.
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No. We cattle and hogs, things were rather primitive, and we just, did it cold. We even castrated a stallion one time that way. That was quite an ordeal. And, we had this, we had this harness kind of an arrangement we threw over his back. He by the way, he was in Appaloosa. Oh. We threw it over his back. He was a big animal. We threw it over his back, and then he attached it. It was designed for that purpose. He attached the rope to the to the ankles, and then four men would pull the ropes at the same time, and then that would get him down. And he had to wait a hog tie him, and then you castrated him. And, hog the same way. And I know this sounds primitive, but, everybody did it this way.
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Wait. Hold on. Hold on. We lose Brent. Did he unplug something? I know he's moving around. I heard him washing his hands there. Yeah. There we There you go. Now we got him there. We had to do
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four 40 to 60 pounds. So you had to throw them by hand, and one man would hold them. Some men could do it by themselves. One man would hold them or usually a boy. That was me. And then, old man. Yeah. That was my job when I was old enough to throw hogs. And all you have to do to throw a hog is you can get on one side of him. You take your right if you're right handed, take your right hand and or left hand, I guess, really, and grab him on the flap of skin right in front of his hind leg, and you can just pick him up if you get a good jerk. If you're young and strong and and you can flop him over on his back, and you with with one hand, you can hold him, and he can't get away. You just tip him up a little bit so that his feet are loose, and you've got him. And you can hold him with one hand. Some men could do that with one hand. I've seen men do it and take their, bare heel and stick it in the hog's belly, and that pushes the testicles out. And then if your knife is sharp enough, I mean and then, of course, men would stand around while they're waiting for somebody to throw another one. They'd be sharpening their pocket knife. That was the surgical instrument that was mostly used.
And be as sharp as a razor, and if you with two swipes of the knife, you split the skin and then you split the membrane, then you gotta be really good to do that and not split too much. It just pops out, and then you can remove it. But usually with a hog, there'd be a lot of caked mud all over, the the scrotum. And so you'd pick up a corn cob, which was usually handy, and you scrape the mud off, and then you split the scrotum open. Wow. I know that all of you didn't need to hear that, but I'm old enough now. I don't care. One time I was one time I I mean, my earliest memories as a boy were, I was standing outside the woven wire fence, and my dad and my granddad were castrating hogs. And they'd take those mountain oysters, and they got them pulled out, and they just sling them behind them, and they'd hit that woven wire fence. I'm just a little kid, four or five years old. I remember this like it was yesterday. They'd hit that woven wire fence and just hang there.
And the dogs would come along and eat them till they get so full and sick. They'd upchuck and go back and eat more. Oh. That's, that's life on the farm, and I grew up that way. And we know when you grow up with that kind of thing going on constantly. Of course, there's a lot of there's a lot of death because there's a lot of butchered hogs, butchered cattle, and then you're going you're trying to stop the critters from eating your chickens, and and it it creates a different mindset. What it does, having been away from it at different times during my life, it creates, an earthy mindset of reality.
And that's what we're losing, by the way. And the story I just told, I did that on purpose. I thought, well, I'll just tell it. That's what we're missing, the reality of of the brutality of life. And it's not really that brutal. I mean, if you live around that kind of stuff where there's constant
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you know, you
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kill animals. What's that? It's brutal if you're the pig. Go ahead. Yeah.
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Yeah. But, animals and the attitude of men and, this all this is gone now, by the way. This is what makes a nation great is being in touch with, down to the ground and being in touch with reality. And if that mindset is long, we become effeminate, and we will be destroyed. And that's where we are. Yep. We're effeminate, and we will be destroyed. Yep. God won't tolerate it. We live in a cruel, twisted world. This is not nirvana. God has ordained it that way for his glory. I don't know all the details. I just know that that's why he does it. We live in this cruel, brutal world, and we if we aren't willing to get down and get dirty and live it, God will judge us.
He tells us that. It's not that we are here's what we end up doing. If we aren't down to the earth according to the terms of God about how to deal with the brutality of life, we will begin to brutalize each other. We will murder babies like we're doing. Yep. And and and spend more money on dog food and cat food than we spend upon, food for people. We will treat animals like we ought to be treating people, and we will treat people like God wants us to treat animal. Animals are not here. God did not give us animals so that they can have us to use. We're not here for their purposes.
They're here for our purposes. And God tells us specifically in the Bible how to treat them, how to not be cruel to them. You may have to kill them, but you don't you don't do anything that would make them suffer beyond what is necessary. People that live down to the ground know that. And the urbanized society does not know that, and they mistreat animals Well, do they. While they spend millions of dollars on vets. I I was talking to a friend. Rob Roger, did you wanna say something on that? Well, I once I've been watching, you know, some TV, like, there's some sports and stuff in the commercials.
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And one of the commercials is and they have both male and female as the protagonist here. Yeah. But, one one of them, the girl invites her her girlfriend over and says, well, I got a new boyfriend. His name's Peter. And, so the and she opens up the refrigerator to get her a drink or something. And the guy goes, what's that in the refrigerator? And it's good. It's all this dog food and stuff. And she goes, oh, man. And she makes some derogatory remark. And the next scene in the commercial is she's being shut the door on and gone. And the girl and her dog are going, we didn't like her anyway. You know? But that exact same thing, both sexes. What's that? People, yep, going, that far with their animals while, as you said, Fauci Yeah. Pig. Murder on two thirds. Those beagles and cut their voice larynx out so they couldn't yell and then puts a a thing over their head with these flesh eating something. I mean, what a Yeah.
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Oh. Yeah. He ought to be he ought to be,
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horse whipped. I hope so. I hope I see that. Maybe we might get to see that if we're lucky. You know, you and you, well,
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yeah, maybe worse than that. But the, whole idea, you got a dog, dogs and this is axiomatic in a world where people are down to the ground. Dogs don't live in houses, neither do cats. No. The Bible Bible tells us that. They're they're not clean animals. They're man's best friend. I get it. I understand all that. And cats and dogs are we loved our cats and dogs, but they weren't people, and they were our purposes. As Jesus Christ said of the Sabbath, the Sabbath is for man. Man is not for the Sabbath. We are not to bow to the to the animal kingdom, and that's what the evil empire and their stupidity wants us to do. That's why they make idols out of out of animals. You bow down and worship them. The Bible speaks of all this. Ancient history is replete with it. Present day the present day world is replete with it. And once you put animals from from men, you know, we are to love the Bible teaches us to love our neighbor and to dominate God's creation, The earth and all that then it is. And the Bible says that God puts the fear of animals on us. We are to animals what God is to us.
They are to be loyal to us. They're here for our purposes, and God tells us exactly how to treat them and how not to abuse them. But at the same time, we get that upside down. The balance of God's word with his creation is perfect as it relates to us. But, if you people know. I was talking to a friend, a cousin. He's 97 years old. And I said, don't you remember how it was at home? He hadn't lived there in years, but he said I said, did you ever know what dog food was when you were growing up? We all had lots of dogs. I never even heard of dog food, Roger. You'll have a grown man. I didn't know there was such thing as dog food. Our dogs got our scraps, and they all scraps. Anything left over, they got it. If an if a a a calf or a a hog died, they got that, a pig.
If, they went hunting every morning, they went hunting. Oh, yeah. And they'd come dragging stuff back and they'd eat that. And did you know our dogs lived to the maximum extent of what dogs can live? And now today, go to the Internet. Look it up. Dogs are dying. They're not living hardly half as long in some cases as as a dog ought to live. And they're feeding them all this food, and the people are making money off this dog food, and it's absolute trash. And cancer among dogs is through the roof. Cancer of every part of their bodies. That that's the niche that this company with this food's filling right there. Yeah.
Well, the the, the the dog is made to eat trash. That's why you don't eat dogs. Yeah. Yeah. They're made to eat trash. They're made to clean up the stuff that other animals won't eat as are hogs and buzzards and other critters like that. But that doesn't mean you eat them and that does not work. And that doesn't mean you you let them eat out of your plate. I've watched the people, get an ice cream cone, let their dog lick it between their licks. That's just downright stupid, and you can get hurt all bad doing that. It's not that you don't like your dog. Your dog is not human, And God wants and if you get to the point, I I say this, my testimony from reading history, if you get to the point that you treat animals, dogs, like people, you will treat people like animals.
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That's what I'm asking. Interesting saying you'd be like that king in Europe who made his dog king, the dog king.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I get it. I understand. Dogs are so, loyal. They're so lovable. They're so kind often. They're they're good companions, but God draws the line.
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You almost can't break that relationship. Of course, you can at some point, but a a poor old dog, he just loves you no matter what. You know? No. I I can name. I used to ask my great granddad, grandpa,
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name all the dogs you had all your life and tell me what their names were, and he remembered them all because you were so close to them. And I Yeah. A boy and his dog are inseparable, and we had dogs. I had a dog that I was inseparable from. That dog went went everywhere I went, but we didn't let that dog in the house. And that dog was happy. And that dog went hunting when it wanted to, and it ran. And it it lived life like a dog, like God designed a dog to live, and he hunted. And as I said, and ate what he wanted to eat. It was other than a he. It was a she. Her name was Frisk. We had border collies, two of them. Oh, those are good dogs. Yeah. They're good dogs. And we didn't have papers on them, but they and we didn't have any fancy training meth techniques, but they would do what we told them to do. All we had to do is tell them what to do, and they'd run and do it.
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I had a friend in Atlanta, lived up by Lake Lanier. He got him a border collie. Uh-huh. Lived in a two story house. Right? And he trained that dog. He'd leave the door in the basement open slightly at night. Uh-huh. And in the morning, the border collie would go out and get the paper and bring it in, turn around and shut the door, and bring the paper up to his bedside.
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Oh, I've seen him do that kind of stuff. We could stay at a frisk when we were moving animals and getting ready to ship hogs to the stock market, stockyards in Indianapolis. We'd holler we get them all up in the barnyard area. We had a and then we get them in a a closer area, and we had shoots. We'd divide them, but, yeah, to bring them in about 220 pound. If they're over two twenty, they'd dock you. If they're under two twenty, they'd dock you. So we had to be able to eyeball them. We didn't have a scale, but you can get real good at it. But then we'd say to Frisk, Frisk, go cut us out another 220 pounder. Well, she she'd do it. Now don't ask me how that works. That's what dogs will do for you.
And, they're inestimable of worth for working and as guard dogs. And just as dogs will yelp and bark if anything comes up around the curtilage. You need that too or somebody come up, steal gasoline out of your tank or your whatever. We that that's why we all had dogs. But we had mom's side of the family. They were the that was the they were from Kentucky. And so they they didn't have sheepdogs. They had hunting dogs. And coon hunting was the biggest thing in their lives. All my my granddad, my uncles, all of them, they're the most notorious coon hunters in 14 counties. But that's a different kind of an animal. See with a coon dog, you don't pet your hunting dogs. You pet your hunting dogs, you ruin them. You pet your dog, though, and you talk to them. You're hunting dog. You just you'd be nice to them. You encourage them, but you don't, pet them because you want them to hunt. And they're not gonna hunt, right, if, you get too friendly with them. That you learn how to take care of dogs. Well, so we had the the coon dogs on one side, and on dad's side, they had sheepdogs.
They were more into animals or livestock. You know? People in Kentucky in the old days, my granddad and him, that wasn't a culture of farming. That was a culture you were you were a tobacco grower, and that's different than a farmer. Yeah. And and they'd people would say, well, you're a farmer and and, they'd say, no. No. No. We're not farmers. We don't know squat about farming, but we're tobacco growers and we and then coon hunting was a big thing. Well, back in the sixties and up through the seventies, you could come home at night. You could make any a hundred and 60, a hundred, 2 hundred dollars hunting coons in one one evening or night hunting coons. It was, there was money in it is what I'm saying. That is true for Coon hunting is an irresistible thing for a lot of people is, you know, men like the rhythm of the hunt, and they don't want it's not the the fun is in the chase and the run as they say. Yeah. It's not in the kill. No. It's in the chase. It's the hunt. It's listening to the dogs. I was just with a friend. We had a military reunion, and he's from mountains in Virginia, a dying breed of mountain man. There just aren't very many left anymore, and the onslaught of the migration from New England is overtaking the South and the mountains, by the way.
And he go been going bear hunting every year since he was a kid. And he, well, he shot a big one last year. They got the black bear, but he had a bear run over him two years ago. He didn't see him coming, and next thing he knew, he was flattened. He thought he was dead when he turned around and looked and seen what was coming. Well, his buddy, you know how it is. You've seen him on the Internet. His buddy hunting with him, got a had his cell phone, got got a video of this bear running over Terry. I said, Terry, you gotta send me that. I'll I could put it up here, and we could play it for people. That'd be fun to watch. He's alright, though. That's and that's the fun of it. See? An enjoyable part is the rhythm of the hunt, and that's the way it is with coon hunters too. And then you're dealing with a a coon. There's not a a more wily animal in the American woods than a coon. You talk about intelligent.
Yes. Yeah. I mean, the fox is wily, but not like a coon. A coon make a fox look like he is, in the mentally retarded category. Uh-huh. Very smart. Very smart. Oh, yeah. I'm not talking about anything. I am talking about something important, and it's just a thin slice of it. And it's the urbanization of our country. Why is our country people say, well, we're whether we're under the judgment of God. Well, we are urbane. That's why. Yeah. I remember reading, that fellow that wrote Moby Dick. What was his name? Quite a long time. Herman Melville. Herman. Thank you, Roger. Herman Melville. You know, he liked to write. Well, he was a good writer if you ever read some of his writings. I'll tell you the best book he ever wrote. Moby Dick is good, but there's one better than that. And it wasn't discovered until many years after his death.
The name of it was Billy Budd. Billy Budd, b u d d. And, well, the name of the book is Billy Budd, comma, Sailor. If you it's a short story. It's not a novel like Moby Dick. It's a short story. If you haven't read it, you must read it. It is a must read. I read it for the first time my senior year. It was, was, well, I it would required reading in law school my senior year. Really? Yep. That one and a few others. But, Billy Budd, and of all the required reading, then we had to have a oral exam on it. But Herman Melville's father-in-law, the way I remember it, was chief justice of the of the, Massachusetts Supreme Court. You know, he's from New England. He was he'd been a whaler. You know? He'd a sailor on whaling ships back in the day.
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Herman Melville was the chief justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court. Did I hear you say that? His father his father-in-law.
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Oh, okay. I believe his father in law's name was his last name was Shaw, s h a w. He's one of them Yankees. Yeah. And and Shaw was a positivist, Roger, a positivist as a as a legal bill. He believed in positivism. Well, positivism was a a theory of law that, overtook, our our common law country and England back in the early and middle eighteen hundreds. And what it said was this, that, man is responsible to make positive law. What's positive law? That's law that is decreed in words specifically. For example, the Bible is statutes and commandments that and judgments. Well, all three of those are specifically stated in the Bible, and that's God's positive law.
And then on the other side of positive law, well, if you got, for example, the uniform code of military justice, that's positive law. The code of Justinian in its various forms around the world, the code of Bismarck, the canon laws of the church of Rome, the code Napoleon, the old French code, all of those are are positive law because they are specific positive statements of what the law is, and they're not to be tampered with not to be tampered with. God said don't tamper with my law. Do not add to it. Do not take away from it. He says it over and over and over. Well, that's God speaking. I'm good with that. No. I don't wanna tamper with what the Bible said. Jesus Christ said every jot and every tittle, every jot that's the smallest of the Hebrew letters called a yod, every tittle, that's a serif on the end of a number of the Hebrew letters that will change it from one one letter to another. He said, don't touch it. It's per perfect. The word of God, as the Bible tells us, is perfected.
And Jesus Christ, the author of the word of God, the law of God says don't touch it. Okay. I got it. But then when men turn around and say, no. No. The code of Justinian is positive. Law is perfect. Don't touch it. And that's what they say. By the strongest of custom in every country in the world, except the common law of countries, no judge is to tamper. No judge is to even try to interpret the code using precedent. Precedent is uniquely a unique feature of our common law tradition, And it has to do with separation of powers, courts and our common law tradition follow the precedents of the courts that have gone before them and have ruled on like subjects with like facts.
That's called the coequal but separate branches of government. Courts do what the courts do. The executive does what the the executive does. The legislature does what the exec, legislature does, and none of those three branches has the power to trump any of the other two. The Supreme Court of the United States in our common law country is not final. That is not true in the rest of the world. They're positivist. But in our country, nobody's final. We are in a perpetual never ending Mexican standoff in the three branches of government. And that's what we're we're seeing in the news now. Nobody tells us what the truth is about our common law tradition because all the legal beagles and the highfalutin lawyers on the Supreme Court don't have a clue what it is. Just ask them if you ask them. They come up. The answers would be all over the lot. And I'm not There's there's one of them up there that doesn't even know what a woman is for God's sake. Since she is one.
Yeah. And I don't say that to say that I'm smarter than they are or smarter than anybody else. It's just a matter of what you know. Some people know one thing, some people know another. But to know the difference between the law of the land and the law of the city or common law and the urbane law of the city as Herman Melville said, Herman Melville said that's the problem. And he was speaking out against his father-in-law. He wrote the short story Billy Budd to speak out against his father-in-law against positivism. And what Melville then later said that it, it all started in the Garden of Eden and the serpent.
The reptile in the garden of Eden. He said the best word to describe him, said Herman Melville, is urbane. He was in extreme urbane. He was not down to the ground anymore. He was a scholastic. He liked to read things like Saint Thomas Aquinas. Of course, Aquinas wasn't born yet, but that's the kind of baloney you get into. Logic. Logic becomes foremost and where logic becomes foremost, fact and testimony and truth of fact has a way of receding from consideration. And that's what's happened to us. We think we're pretty smart. You hear somebody talk about reason and logic and how and critical thinking and all that kind of horse manure run for your life. You don't have to tell you somebody, you don't have to tell.
Nobody has to teach you about critical thinking. That's what you do. Why? Cause you're a, you're of Adam's race. Horses born to run, birds born to fly, beasts to prey are born to ferocity, hounds are born to hunt, and men are born to think. They will think. You can't stop them from thinking. Don't worry about that. What you need to if somebody's gonna teach you logic, they're gonna skew you. That's what they're gonna do, and that's what they do in the universities. Don't worry about that. What you need to worry about is fact, and that's what our common law tradition is about is fact. The law of the city, the positivist, that's all about logic. Mhmm. Fact doesn't really matter to them. They have lawsuits. We don't have lawsuits. We say we do. We don't. We have fact suits. We don't ask the jury what the law is. We we ask them what the facts are. Because once you got the facts, everything else falls in place. The facts, the proper facts, the true facts are the basis of any logic and critical thinking you might do. And if you got the false the wrong fact upon which to base your logic, then you're gonna reach a long a wrong conclusion.
Well, that's that's the way Melville was. He he was again, he was just on the opposite end of things. Who who's ever heard of chief justice Shaw? Well, we've heard of Herman Melville and he was right headed about it. Or Billy Buds about a boy that was hung from the yard arm. His name was Billy Bud because of positivism. The military code. People talk about admiralty law. It's unforgiving. Yeah. It's martial law. And this is an example right here. Yeah. This is it. It paints with a broad brush. Example. Alright. Wait. Maybe I don't know what you're talking about, Roger. Oh, Billy Budd. Oh, Billy Budd. Well, let's look at Well, at least he had a trial. Most admiral peep people don't have a trial. They take down the skull and cross the country's flag they're flying and run up the skull and crossbones as they're, ramming your ship. Well, but the process. Well, he might've hurt, but see the captain Viri in that story, he was the captain of the British warship, and he didn't, he was a positivist. And he said, I don't care what what Billy Budd's problem is.
He crossed the line, but he crossed the line for this reason. Mister ship captain, well, it doesn't make any difference. Cross the line, draw the line, drop the hammer, and we're going to hang him. See that? That's the attitude. Yeah. In our common law tradition, it's not that way. Why? Well, in the law of the city tradition, the civil canon laws of Rome, as we call them today all over the world, the only thing that matters is the that you do what the code says. There are no trials. There are no trials in France or South America. No. What are there? Inquisitions.
The fundamental of the law of the city is inquisitorial, Inquisitions. They don't care if there is no cross examination. There are opportunity for such thing. There is no jury. No. No. No. In our country, we have an adversarial tradition. Why? Because it's a common law tradition. So we go into court, have court battles. That's what we do. We fight, and we have due process, and we fight according to the rule of the, the the Queensbury rules. If you were in a boxing match, they say, okay. You can fight, but no sucker punching, no no, rabbit punches, no kicking in the groin, no biting, no scratching, no pulling hair. Okay. Got it, boys? Well, that's called fighting according to the rules. So you then you can say, if people fight according to rules, may the best man win. You can't say that. That's a common law saying. You can't say that if it's an inquisition. If there's if it's positive law, legislate legislation, the code of Justinian, that paints legislatures paint with a broad brush.
Well, Well, we're not interested in your silly little problem. You broke the law, shut up, and pay the fine. Yeah. You know, that's kinda thing. I was on the freeway. In a common law country, we're a little more, loose about it, but I remembered driving through LA One time. Man, I was balling the jack. I had the pedal to the metal and that was and if you've ever been on, that, what is it? That one zero one goes right through Downtown Los Angeles. It just wanders, kind of long, lazy curves and up and down just a little bit. It's just fun to to, and it's it it was late one night, and I was doing that. And I looked to my left, and here's a state trooper beside me looking over at me. I must have been going 80 or 90. And he had a piece of cardboard, and he held it up. But on the piece of cardboard, it said slow down.
And I I gave him I gave him the old thumbs up, and he zoomed away. Yeah. He wouldn't have to arrest anybody. That was, by the way He must have a good dinner that night. That was forty years ago. Well, yeah, who knows what the policy is? But, you know, I won't say who said it, don't like him that much, but he said, you know, in Europe speed limits are speed limits because they're pos see, they have a positivist culture, Law of the city, positivist, speed limits or speed limits. In America, we're in a common law country, and speed limits are just suggestions. Or more than that, speed limits are challenges.
How can I get by with five more miles per hour? You know? Alright. Like, little trucker says, a double nickel, I'll take five, and they'll give me five so I can if it's 60, I'll run 70. You know? And I'm not saying do that. I'm just making the point. In America, we do have a different attitude. You know, in England, if you're not in the queue, you get to feeling pretty self conscious. They're a little less common law sensitive than we are now, unfortunately, for them. But we we still have that attitude. Let's not lose it, friends. That doesn't mean be lawless. That means understand your common law tradition, and it will it will pervade your mind. It will bubble in your brain. It will boil in your blood. And pretty soon, you'll be thinking the way God wants you to think.
But it catches you more than you catch it. There you go. Like you, Roger. Hey, Brad.
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Well, the other day, Bob, Bob's got something to say. We always wanna hear what he's got to say. Bob, what what's on your mind? Good morning.
[00:44:14] Unknown:
You made me laugh, Brett. I've told this story before, I think even here, but you've I'm sure you've run across the little robots to sit on the side of the road and tell you how fast you're going and, you know, in digital speed and speed limits x, and you're doing y. And if you get within five miles over, you know, it just flashes. And then within 10 miles over, it flashes, and it has some row lights around the edge. You know? They start going off. And Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told my friends. I said, you know, that's just the challenge. If I go 15 miles an hour, I wanna see it start a siren. If I go 20, I wanna see it jump up and down. If I go 40 over, I wanna see I wanna see steam coming out. You know? It's a challenge. It's Yeah. And it chasing you. Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Anyway, I just thought that was funny when you said, yeah. It's a it's a challenge. That's exactly right. How what can I get by with here? There you go. Human nature.
[00:45:15] Unknown:
Well, I shave. Just let me just shave off a little bit more. Brent, you got any comment on that?
[00:45:23] Unknown:
On what, Roger? On what Bob just said. Oh, yeah. You know, out in the countryside, if you're out in the middle of the cornfield kind of country and the corn's picked, and you're driving down the gravel road going forty, fifty mile an hour, which is too fast on horse gravel, by the way. That's like driving on marbles, but you're driving down the road. And you can see them half a mile to a mile in both directions and straight ahead. Is there any reason to stop? No. You're you're keep on tooling right on through. I read a piece by Gershomme Machen one time. Well, actually, it was his testimony before the, Congress of the United States.
And Gershomme Machen was professor of New Testament language and literature at Princeton University, very well known man back in that part of the world at one time. And, he's the one, by the way, that challenged Pearl Buck for Buck, and that's what got him in trouble. But lost his lost his job. He was one of the foremost students of New Testament Greek in the world at that time. And they threw him out over that. But he testified before Congress, and his testimony was well thought out. And he, what he talked about was the dehumanization of man. He said, I'm ticked. He was from an old southern family down in Virginia, by the way.
And, he said, I used to walk from my house across the road out into this wooded area. And he said, I go down this is back in the nineteen thirties. He said, I go down there now and I press a button. I gotta stand there and wait. No cars have been coming along that road for several minutes. But I gotta stand there and wait until the the electronic device or whatever it was, the stoplight says I can go. That's what urban society does to you. Mhmm. It it forces you to conform when there's no need to. Very good analogy. Yeah. It's just that simple. And when you're in town, you're in a city, you live according to that rhythm. It's like being in prison, friends. If you're in prison and you're in one room, you're gonna have to sit in that room until the door automatically unlocks.
It's It's on a timer, and then you can move. And then if if you don't get moved quick enough, they'd wanna go to another room or go back to where your bunk is or whatever. You sit there for another fifteen minutes or if the timer's set different for half an hour. That's the kind of world we're getting to. There's no place you can go just like Orson's or who was it wrote that book nineteen eighty four?
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George Orwell.
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Yeah. You know, there's no about the guy that gets in his house and crawls in the corner because he couldn't get to a place where a camera wasn't watching him. Yeah. And and in the end of the book, all that it came down to was a hobnailed boot on a man's face, and that's what the world is doing. Forever.
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Forever.
[00:48:13] Unknown:
So here's what we need to do. Here's what we need to do, friends. I'll give real quickly. If you don't know the laws of nature and the laws of nature is god let me put it this way. If it isn't the passion of your of your life to know those things, it's gonna get that way. But not for you. But if you have a passion to know the laws of nature, our common law tradition, and the laws of nature is god, the bible, then it won't get that way for you. Bible promises. Back to you, Roger.
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Very interesting I wanted to ask you if I could deviate along these lines here for a minute about current events and what you've been able to pick up over, well, Trump arrested these two state judges, this week, last week, whatever it was. Uh-huh. The, the the coming the coming standoff between the, judiciary and the executive, it appears. And, some of these things that are happening, they're very contemporary, and important. And,
[00:49:12] Unknown:
I I wanted to get your read on some well, first of all, make sure you'd heard about them because I know how you are. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I couldn't help but hear about them, but I went to a meeting last night and asked me to say a few words. And I talked about the things we're talking about here, and I got a good reception. There are about a dozen adults there. It was a meeting in someone's home. I got a real positive, but they want to talk about, the the, they wanted to talk about the the nationwide injunctions. Yes. And that has to do with the judiciary. And here's the deal.
DJ Trump is up against he's the executive branch. Everything in our in the executive branch is under his control, the Department of Justice, all the alphabet soup bureaucracies. But there are three there are two other branches of government that are not under his control. Then all three of those branches, the executive, the legislative, and and the judicial are direct direct creations of the militia of the several states of The United States through that instrument called the constitution of The United States. The constitution of our constitution of The United States is a brief of common law government. It creates three branches of government directly.
The executive branch, the presidency, the judicial the legislative branch, the United States Congress, and the Supreme Court of the United States. It only creates one court, the Supreme Court of the United States. And because that is the creation of the militiamen, we, the people, that means the militiamen of the several states, Because those three branches are their creation, none of those three branches have any power to trump or do away with the other or alter the other in any way. They are on those three branches of government or a three way Mexican standoff. DJ Trump is politically wise, and this is what was intended by the militiaman who ratified our constitution.
They intended that, the president of The United States who has boku amounts of power, raw force and violence. The army, the navy, the air force, the marines, and all the bureaucrats soup bureaucrats that pack heat. He's got all that. FBI, CIA, whatever. He's got that, and he can do what he wants. Yeah. That's what he thinks is constitutional. Remember, he took an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States. He didn't take an oath to defend it as some other Gallut understands it. He took an oath to defend it as he understands it. That's the strength of our common law tradition. Every man, every man is responsible before god is maker to do what is lawful regardless of what anybody else in government says. I mean, if you really believe in your heart of hearts that this is a this particular whatever particular problem you got or disagreement you have with the government, you're right and they're wrong. Well, you have channels. You can test that. But it may come down to it may come down to you saying, I don't care what you do. I'm not doing that anymore. It depends upon how what the issue is. Well, DJ Trump has a responsibility to support the constitution.
Now who's dumb enough to say, oh, there are a lot of people, I suppose, that the Supreme Court of the United States has more wisdom than any other person in America.
[00:52:38] Unknown:
No? I think it's about the parent. They probably have less at this point. Well, can I use the example I used earlier when a black female in front of congress can't answer a question as to what a woman is? Yeah. You you've kind of gone off the rails.
[00:52:51] Unknown:
Right. It's worse. Excuse me, Roger. It gets worse. The people sitting on the benches can't be look look between their legs and tell what they are. Their own self. That's the world we're increasing live live we're increasingly live in. Went to Walmart two nights ago. And, of course, I'm in Tornado Alley around here and and, in Walmart, and it was getting late. And and, I get not many people there. And as I was coming out, I saw a young fella, and I asked him a question. I could tell he had an accent. I said, where are you from? He said, Luxembourg. Now this is out in Flyover America. Yeah. Here's this kid from Luxembourg.
I said, what in the Sam Hill are you doing here? Another kid walks up. I said, where are you from? He said, Spain. Another kid walks up. Oh, about 20 years old. I said, where are you from? He said, England. I said, okay. I said, what are you guys doing here? I mean, of all places, I could see you being in Los Angeles or Vista and Boston or New York, but out here in the hinterlands. Oh, and I've come to find out they were all from well heeled rich families, rich boys. They were tennis players, and they've been turned. They decided they just take money and run around all over America and look around. And I said, well, I said to one of them, what's your name? The one from Luxembourg.
He said my my first name is Emmanuel. I said, well, you know what that means, don't you? He said, oh, yeah. But he said, that's taboo. We don't talk about that. I said, wait a minute. You don't talk about the meaning of your name? Why not? Because it's a taboo subject. I said, well yeah. I said, so, the word Emmanuel, which means god with us, it's a Hebrew, three Hebrew words, god with us. The the name of g it's a name of Jesus Christ. I said, you can't talk about Jesus Christ in your country. Of course not. I said, well, look, dude. You're in America.
We talk about whatever we wanna talk about here. And it's time that you woke up to reality. When you go home, you better start acting that way too. I said, you got a girlfriend? He said, no. I said, you're not queer, are you? He said, he laughed. He said, no. He said, but he is, pointing to the guy from Spain. I said, what are you talking about? He said, well, he's a he didn't say switch hitter. He said he's bisexual. I said, you are a kid, man. Aren't you, son? I I said, you really are? He said, yeah. I said, have you lost your marbles? I mean, what could be enjoyable about doing the kind of things you apparently do with other men?
I don't know why, Roger. Sometimes I just feel comfortable saying things, and I think they thought I was an entertaining old man. You know? So I I just said it. And I then I said, well, they said, well, we don't talk about that here, and I am. And I said, no. You're you're nothing. Do you have any men left in Europe at all? Any men? You guys got any gonads? Or you just, you're less than women. Women have convictions and instincts convictions. You don't even have that. Who's taking care of of your country? Who's taking care of your sisters and your mother? You fellas acting like that? You're sick. I said, you guys are sickos. And they laughed. They said, well, what they wanted to hear what else I had to say. I laid some other things on them. And then, of course, they said, get out either go to the back of the building at Walmart or you gotta leave right now. We're shutting the store down. There's a tornado coming.
I don't know whether tornado came or not, but I ended up tornado may have been you. Yeah. I mean but and I'm just an old guy saying these things. But listen. Listen. The Bible says, if this kind of thing's going on, like what those boys are they're used to, I don't call I don't even know if they're boys. But, anyway, if that's the kind of thing that's going on, then and you I'm talking to you, whoever listening. You don't say something about it. The bible, you book of Ezekiel says that when the judgment falls on them, it'll fall on you too. Yep. Watch it on the wall. But if you say something, when the judgment falls on them, it won't fall on you. It's the drive
[00:57:10] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Go ahead. The driver of this program. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt. That's alright, Roger. The
[00:57:15] Unknown:
the Bible said or god said to Jeremiah in the first chapter, he said, I'm gonna send you to my people, and I want you to to tell them the truth. And he was a young young fellow, and he said, well, I can't do that. He said, they'll try to kill me. And god said, yeah. That's what they're gonna try to do. They won't listen to anything you say. They will make your life miserable, and then they will try to kill you. Well, then why you want me to do it? That's none of your business. Just go do it. But it is true. It is true when you do that, when you tell the truth to people, god's using you to condemn them. If they don't respond, he's he'll use that as evidence to condemn them and justify make him look just before the rest of his creatures when he hurls them into hell. That's what the Bible says.
[00:58:08] Unknown:
Paul, I'll put a pardon? I'm a just stop you for a second. Put it on pause. Paul's right there. We're about to to close out. He wants you to tellhim common lawyer Com is where you can get more.
[00:58:19] Unknown:
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Go to the matrixstocks.com to follow us into the second hour. If you missed it, the first thirty minutes, we were talking about such things as fighting a feminism through the whacking of huevos off a wildebeest.
[00:59:55] Unknown:
You're not gonna miss the second hour. That's right. Yeah. And those mountain oysters. Yeah. Yum. By the way, while we got a lull here just a second, how's the, how's Paul's show yesterday? I keep looking for his logo to pop up here. I hadn't seen this week. He's got it in his presentation. Yeah. It was good fun. What'd y'all do? Do you remember?
[01:00:17] Unknown:
Oh, it was great fun. It it was a potpourri. It was it was a great show. You really need to catch it.
[01:00:26] Unknown:
Okay. Good deal. Hopefully, he'll drop by and visit us again here sometime soon. Brent, so sorry. I'll take you back off pause there. Sorry to put you back there on the back burner for a minute, but these house cleaning things must be addressed. You know?
[01:00:41] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Oh, well, I've been talking enough. Maybe I ought to quit for a while. But Well, why don't we open up the,
[01:00:49] Unknown:
up and see if the audience got any questions or comments or they got any tips on gelding other types of animals or, you know, any of that stuff that might come up. You never know with this audience. You know? Good lord. Do we got some farmers? Michael's a farmer? You know, you never know who these people. This is a you know, don't do things like try and yell the bear or a moose. Those aren't, you know, probably good, good things. We were talking at lunch on Tuesday about we got some folks that have been in Alaska and talking about trying to outrun a moose.
You know, bears are incredibly fast. They're they're big. You can't you can't believe how fast they are. And, but moose moose can be real dangerous, especially during the rutting season. And I say that those grizzlies can run, Brent and audience, because when I did live up there, one of the trips we took one summer was up to, what you would probably know as Mount McKinley. It's been renamed the, Dingbat Biden and his folks had taken that away. I believe that's been replaced. The original name of the mountain for the Indians is Denali. And Denali translates to weather maker because that tall peak up there controls weather in many instances.
Now we went up there in the sixties for a week, I guess, and we drive into the closest you can get to the mountain. Have you ever been up there, Brent? You didn't get up that way. Oh, no. I yeah. I've been up there. I went close to yeah. Right now at the base of the mountain in the summertime, then it was Right. Well, the closest you can get is about 25 miles, and the road stops at a lake called Wanderer Lake. Yeah. And, it is crystal clear. Just beautiful. And, anyway, as we're going through the past to get to the back there to Wander Lake, because that was our destination, it's summer and the bears are born. They're hibernation with and they have their cubs.
So you drive in that old road, and this is what? Sixty years ago, something like that. And, man, we had video of a grizzly running right beside our car at 25 miles an hour. Okay? Uh-huh. Well, it's probably really a eight millimeter, wasn't it? Oh, yes. It's an old celluloid stuff. It wasn't video, obviously. Now what was interesting you'll like this story, Brent, as long as we're telling stories. We got up there and whatnot. Our we were the only car. We had an old green Plymouth station wagon, all trailer around, you know? And so we're right there. We're the only ones in the parking lot, end of the road, nobody else around.
And all of a sudden, this big fancy, what do they call those ones over in Africa they use? The, Land Rover comes pulling up there and these guys get out and they're taking out bags and tripods and and and all kinds of stuff. And and we didn't talk to them too much, you know, if I remember. But, anyway, they got all that. We were watching them, obviously. I was curious. And, they get all that stuff, and they hike all the way around Wander Lake there to the other side. And they set up and, and what they were doing was taking the picture of this loons nest that was over there.
Loons are fascinating birds, and they're very beautiful. And they've got that almost chilling call. You know? And, so we saw the nest and all that even though it was across the lake. And about a month or so later, it showed that picture showed up on the cover of national geographic.
[01:04:31] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, well, they tell me I was talking to
[01:04:39] Unknown:
go ahead. Yeah. Who's the hello there?
[01:04:43] Unknown:
My name is Kyle. I'm new here. I just wanna say that this has been my favorite episode so far. And I I do have just a quick couple questions whenever you get a sec. Well, we got a sec right now. We wanna know more about what you're did you say it was Kyle, k y l e? Yep.
[01:05:01] Unknown:
Where where are you? What part of the country, and how'd you find us? You say you're kinda knew you've been lurking.
[01:05:07] Unknown:
Yep. I've been lurking. I'm in Michigan, currently in the concrete jungle down near Detroit. Mhmm. And I've been studying this information for a little over a year now. I was introduced to it somewhat across that video by Presley or the the younger Oh, yeah. Gentleman that made it. Uh-huh. And just putting that information and the information that I've heard here and everything that I've read, it's it's it's really coming together for me. So I have, my affidavit notarized and my cover letter. Yes. But I was just wondering, I already have a passport, but I do not have a passport ID. So should I wait to apply for my passport ID until my Oh, do you do you mean a passport card?
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Because your passport is an ID. Okay. That's alright. Yeah. Nomenclature can be confusing. Know that. Okay. Right? For sure. I know the card, it comes with three stars, but you can get one star Well, don't. Even up to five stars? Well, it can come with more stars than are in the heavens, I guess. I wouldn't pay too much attention to that right now. I'd concentrate on getting that paperwork, first of all, into mister Rubio, who, by the way, it seems Trump is turning into a pretty damn good secretary of state from a weasel little sinister. And then after that, you can apply for and just purchase a passport card.
And that will you'll your other passport will still be valid. Are are you planning on doing any international traveling? I'm not opposed to anything. I have a very open mind. Okay. Well, I'm just saying, if you're gonna do that or have that's why you need the passport book. The card for $30 will suffice for everything that you'll need that sounds like you're gonna need. And, it will have your affidavit attached to it And superseding and overlaying the previous application without one, I think you'll be in pretty good shape. Okay?
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Okay. Wonderful.
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Thank you so much for that. Oh, you're you're welcome. Anything else while we got you?
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Nope. Nope. I'm just gonna continue listening. I really appreciate you guys, and I wanna say thank you.
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Okay. Well, it's addicting information because you can't get it anywhere else in the world to my knowledge. But with the I wanted to use you for a second if I could. Didn't say abuse you. I said use you. Absolutely. And it's for other people that are new. And and I'm trying to hammer you know, you don't make this change overnight. Most people. Some people can make it faster than others, but most people, because you're going in, you gotta learn all this stuff you more than likely never been exposed to before. And then you gotta go figure that all out and incorporate it into you what you've always had as your personal and your worldview, and then have that change that. And that does not happen overnight, unfortunately. K? But good good luck. I just wanted to verify for the other folks, who are some in the same situation that just takes a little time. Stick with it. Okay? It'll come. What what will happen, you have a moment.
You know? And all of a sudden, it it may just come out of left field and go boom, and the light bulb all goes on. That happens to a lot of people. For me, and that's why I got my affidavit memorized yesterday. I'm not going to bed. I'm calling today. Well, good. Well, nice to meet you. Come back and visit us. Unless you have questions as you go further, let us know. Oh, that Yeah. We are here. We're here for you. You and everybody else like you.
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Yes. Oh, yeah. I was wondering if I if you had anybody in Michigan that I could meet with and just Well, what in person. You're
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outside of the big city. We got a number of folks in Michigan, and some are okay. Yeah. I got that. I got a very good friend down here from Detroit. Talks about it incessantly. And but, yes. We got a number of other folks, including Devin. I'm not sure where they all are in relation to you. But, hey, get this. Brent here does these, little continuing education things with one of your sheriffs. Sheriff Darley from, Barrow County. Is it Brent? Barrow County, Michigan? Barrow County. Barrow County, Michigan. You got a a real live constitutional sheriff up there.
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Okay then. What was that gentleman's name?
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Should Brent, do you can tell him
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Let's say Yeah. D a r, Leaf, l e a f, Barrie County. Darleaf.
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We've had him on the show one time. I'd love to have him back. And, so we've got others. The guy that wrote the national citizenship handbook, Devin, lives up there. We've got several other folks, but they're not here totally consistently. But, yes, we do have some others. I can't point you in one direction right now, but we can find you somebody. But Paul probably can. That's right. Yeah. With Devin. Okay? So come back, visit us, and, keep learning, keep growing, keep asking questions. Remember, you're the boss. The power is yours.
And if you're about to take it back, learn how to defend it, how to tell others about it so you can strengthen your own, and, enjoy your new life.
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Yes, sir.
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Okay. Thanks for making it possible. Yep. Great. Well, it's my pleasure. Could you strengthen me, all of you folks? The only way as John Benson used to tell us, Brent will echo this, I'm sure. The only way I can protect my liberty is to help you protect yours. And most people don't even know what it is, how they lost it, or anything about it. So now it's an education process. We're not in the position we're in from a lack of people filing paperwork. We're in the position we're in because of fraud, trickery, treachery, and, us being somewhat ignorant.
But how could we have figured out what these guys were doing over the last hundred or so years to set this up and make it operable? I mean, I've found just a few people in history, Supreme Court Justice John Harlan, the great dissenter, William t McFadden, A few people along the way recognized what they were doing even though we didn't have the end game quite yet. But, so anyway, welcome. Love to have more people being added. We've had several new people lately, and it's, well, it's quite fantastic, actually, because we get to drag out all the old material. And the the folks that always hang around here, they they get exposed to it again. And, yeah, I don't think you can get exposed to these basics enough, quite frankly. I'm still learning at my stage. Yeah.
Yep. And, as my friend here, Brent Winter, said many years ago on this program, which is so accurate, said, when you learn the basics, anything's easy. Very true. Roger. Yes. There's Larry right there. Welcome. Yeah, Larry.
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Yeah. This is directed toward Brent. I thought he'd be glad to know. I read this to you the other day. The, Brent, the, house passed legislation Wednesday, mostly along party lines. This is a article out of the AP from April 9 along party lines that limits the authority of federal district judges to issue nationwide orders as Republicans react to several court rulings against the Trump administration. The pace of nationwide injunctions has certainly increased during Donald Trump's presidency. Republicans are arguing that the increase is the result of activist liberal judges.
Democrats counter that the courts are simply striking down illegal executive orders and actions from the Trump administration. The bill passed by a vote of two nineteen to two thirteen. It limits the scope of injunctive relief ordered by a district judge to those parties before the court. And that's exactly what Brent was talking about couple of weeks ago that the court, and a federal district court only has jurisdiction over the parties that are before him. So it says that this, bill, it it limits the scope of injunctive injunctive relief ordered by a district judge to those parties before the court rather than applying the relief nationally.
It then says and this is the unfortunate thing, but the bill is unlikely to advance through the Senate where at least some Democratic support would be needed.
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I think that's about it. Probably thanks to those three goofballs, the one that's senile, McCals McCursky, whatever her name is from, Alaska and one other one, one of those other wackos up there that have gone over to the Democrat side to stifle Trump's agenda. Brent, have you been able to watch any of the I think I've seen it twice now where they take the cabinet meetings and open them up to the world. Have you seen either one of those? I I watched a little bit of one the other night or maybe last night. Yeah. Right. Of course, those things are calculated to Of course.
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To to politic, but I expect that. That's what politics is. Good campaigning is good governing, and good governing is good campaigning. And if, you have the ability to tell people what you're doing, you should tell them if you're in office. But getting back to this, congress passed if congress passes this legislation, that doesn't bind the Supreme Court at all. Not at all. Again, keep in mind, the the branches of government and our common law tradition are coequal. A congress can pass all the legislation at once. The courts are bound by their oath, each one of them, their oath, to support and defend the constitution.
Congress goes crazy too. Presidents go crazy. Everybody goes crazy. That's why we don't give ultimate power to anybody. Mhmm. And if if they pass the legislation, the courts may continue to do these lawless things. But in their heart of hearts, they think they're right. I'd I'd tell you they're wrong. Yeah. Can you imagine a judge saying to have a case before him? He got the parties before the court in a divorce case, and and, he's he gives a protective order to the man or the woman against the other one. And then he said, by the way, this protective order applies to everybody within the state of whatever, Montana. That ain't gonna happen. Why? Because it's contrary to our common law tradition. It makes every judge a legislature a legislature who can say something and it becomes the law for everybody.
Well, that's not what courts do. Now, Congress, when they pass legislation, as we were saying a while ago, that's positive law. That's a broad brush and all and in all of the world, such legislation is final. The courts are not allowed to tamper with it, to interpret it, to strike it down. No. No. The legislator, whether it be one man, a dictator, or a congress, or a a legislature, that is an expression of the will of government, and that is final. In our common law tradition, no. No. We, the congress can pass legislation. The courts can, say we're not gonna apply it or we think it's wrong or it's wrong in this particular application and refuse to do so in the to the parties then before the court in that case.
A court's power and jurisdiction are limited to the parties then before the court in that case. But that's not true of congress. Their power is just to pass legislation, but they can't enforce it. They don't they aren't the aren't the executive branch, and they are not the judicial branch or, I mean, the, yeah, the judicial branch. So they just paint with a broad brush. Probably the most dangerous thing in our government is legislation
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and the legislative branch. They just changed the system. They just changed the system where they take that legislation, detour it over to the administrative agency. And up until their Chevron deference here recently, they could do whatever they wanted with it because the supreme court told them, well, you're the experts. You you can do whatever you want. Yeah. Well, that goodness. We've turned the page on that crap.
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That gives the they were given legislative power to the executive branch, the bureaucrats, which in this case would have meant the president of The United States. Everything that happens in the bureaucracies, the president of The United States have power to stop it, including tax collection. That's all under he he didn't wanna say that because if something happens that makes people mad, he he said, well, it's those darn IRS agents. No. No. They work for you, buddy. What's that darn US Attorney? No. No. He works for you too, and you have absolute authority over him. Don't let him kid you. But that's the the game of politics, the smoke and mirrors, who's in charge, all that. Just keep in mind, three branches of government, and none of every one of them has taken a note to support and defend the constitution of of The United States as they understand it, not as somebody else understands it. And that means that anybody in government, many of those three branches of government, if he believes in his heart of hearts that what is happening is unconstitutional, he has a do in another branch, the president or or the Supreme Court or whatever other branch it is of those three.
He has an affirmative duty to say so and not comply. And if he's not doing that, he's not doing his job, and he's violating his own. Now you may not agree with him, but that's what keeps government in stitches and neutralized neutralized so they won't bother us. That's the whole idea of common law government to keep government fighting among themselves so they'll leave us alone. Evidently, so to my error. I believe that's the one is, is having dementia problems and is like wandering around the Supreme Court building up there. Well, if she go if if she go home and bake cookies for her grandchildren,
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she might not have that problem. Well, that very true. That's my point. Your role you leave your role long enough, you will become insane, man or woman. Oh. That's what we will down to. God made us. Well, my point was that and that's a very good accurate, what you're saying. My point was gonna be that Trump may have another shot at getting a decent judiciary in there, and maybe we'll stop taking advice like the ones that fed him Kavanaugh and Amy Yeah. Conan, the barbarian, Barrett, and all these other people that have become so disappointment oriented. And tell me and don't tell me she's taking care of those 10 children she has. Well, no. She's at the core. She's
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she's she's a bad mother. Yeah. She's abandoned her family for her career. And that's the example she's setting for other people. Leave your role. Go do what you wanna do. Uh-huh. And listen. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. No. We
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we can keep tabs on her, though, Brent, because one of our new students is her neighbor.
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Yeah. Yeah. Keep tabs on her. I don't know if that'd do any good. You know? If she'll leave if she'll abandon her children and deny the laws of nature, what would she do to get
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authority to make decisions on for everybody else? Here here, Brent. Here's our secret spy right here. Oh, okay. Yes, Julie?
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Hi, Roger. Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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So regarding, what Brent said about ACB, he's a % correct on that, but I wanted you to also know that there's an individual by the name of Shay Pantle, p a n t l e. He filed a huge lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida, and he's suing all of these judges, individually or, it's it's, pursuant to the case of Norton versus Shelby County, title one eighteen US four twenty five, who have admittedly by de facto acts usurped and unlawfully occupied the offices of the circuit court judge in the eighteenth judicial circuit, usurped and unlawfully occupied the offices of chief justice of the Supreme Court of Florida, and county court judge for nineteenth judicial court, usurped and unlawfully occupied the offices of county court. And it's all due to the all caps name and the corporations that they're operating under right now.
And it does have to do with the traffic case, but, the they've asked for motions to dismiss, and they've those motions have been denied. So
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I don't know. It it it reminds me of that. He's
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suing these people in a different
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mode. Okay. All the judges filed a motion to dismiss? Who filed the motion to dismiss?
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You don't know?
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Anyway, well, okay. If you hear any more, keep us up with it. You know, the thing that strikes me out of that circuit, the little that I know of it, I would imagine it includes Orlando.
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It is. It is Orlando. It's Seminole Seminole County.
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Okay. Seminole County. Well, that that's the circuit that overturned the mask mandate with a Yeah. And they're yep. Former former clerk female judge. And, whether she'll get the case in the way it revolves and assigned or whatnot. But, anyway, I do know that's the circuit where that happened.
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Yeah. They're they're, he's accusing them of operating without, title one statute 23 oath of office, and he's accusing them of, in being an absence of all jurisdiction and trespassing into onto a court case in violation of the first act of congress one statute 23 and Florida con constitution article five section five b, which states the circuit courts shall have original jurisdiction not vested in the county courts. So he's he he they he has all of this stuff about them colluding with one another. It's incredible. It's a 49 page case. I read the whole thing, and, he appeared in a, on stage yesterday in a conference down in Miami, going over this. But I pulled the case down and read it, and it's just incredible. So he's suing each circuit court judge and even the, attorney general because the attorney general got involved. And he's like, you can't there's there's separation of powers. You yep. There's separation of powers. You can't go to the sheriff who's part of the executive branch and mix that in with the judicial branch.
So, he's got all their executive or all of their oaths of office, and then he's got all of the fact that the, Florida is a corporation. And he's bringing all that stuff into here, and he's suing each one for $5,000,100
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plus every year. Goes. And, you know, there's a lot of things being revealed right now. Boy, they're coming, you know, fast and furious from every vector, really. I I I honestly never thought I'd live long enough to see these days.
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And, it's And the other thing, Roger, that I wanted to tell you is that, he's he's also accusing these people of having oaths that are incorporated because of the corporation.
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Okay. Well, the, that was what I was gonna mention was I'm surprised some of these things haven't come out. I could list a couple of them. This, these chap, bonds that were sold to China over a hundred years ago that they owe us just The United States Bondholders. Brent, do you know about this? I don't know if you've ever been on when we've talked about it. Well, the first piece of paper I ever found when I was got woke up here toward the Internet was at the Cobb County Library in a book on historical document important historical documents. I knew the years range, and I went in, picked up one in the reference section there, opened it up to around the turn of last century. And first thing I found was this little bitty short article. It's called Woodrow Wilson's repudiation of dollar diplomacy.
Have we ever talked about that?
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No. I think we have.
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Have. Well, we have, but, Brent No. So well, it was, right after evidently when Wilson got elected, and he as he puts it in this short darkness, only a couple of paragraphs, very, very revealing though. And he said, I was approached by a consortium of bankers to cosign this loan with China, Hundred Million Dollars for railroad just like the Rothschilds did all over the world for a railroad on this country just now awakening to its people's needs or whatever, and he decided not to do it. And then he gave the reasons. Well, this one paragraph says, part of the problem here is the tax system, which proposed tax system, which is get this language, Britney, you like language.
Antiquated and burdensome. Absolutely, totally accurate description. Antiquated and burdensome and enforced by foreign agents. It's right there in the document. And and this, that, and the other. And so, anyway, when COVID started, I was watching or trying to learn about China. There was a good program on YouTube back then, epic times. It was accurate. Internal sources, all that. And one of the guys over there has this older female lawyer on. He's she is the head of this company or that exchanges debts from countries and debts all over the world. And she runs the place and she said, well, here's what happened.
When that hundred million dollars, they went ahead and loaned that money to China anyway. And, the Brits, when they gave Hong Kong back to China, part of the deal was they had to pay off the British bondholders of that, but they didn't have to pay off the US Bondholders and they hate The US. And so she said there's 20,000 US bondholders of this. They've never been paid a penny nor will they ever be. And, the total now hold on just a second, please. The total now is a hundred $700,000,000,000. We only owe China One Point Two Trillion. And she said, I met with president Trump. He knows about this.
Since he's talking about trading debts, you know, we trade debts every day. That's what we do. Okay? So Trump could've and still could go back to those bondholders and offer them 5 or 10¢ on the dollar, found money that they'll never see any other way. Okay? And then go back and deal China's debt back to them in our debt payments. So that's one thing that I know about because of my research and because seeing this woman. There's others. There was one we talked about last week with the, that guy, independent guy that's found all this trickery and chicanery with these judges and people like Adam Schiff and and all of our favorites, Adam Schiff and and and Resnick or whatever that little revolting creep's name is, Rask Raskin, and even this judge Broberg that's having so much controversy.
They've been doing all that stuff too. Adam Schiff is technically a resident of Maryland. Yet he's been a California house member and now senator, which he can't be if he's a resident of Maryland. So there's all kinds of these things that are bubbling under back there in the background. But it's incredible how much stuff's coming out. So, anyway, sorry to run off on that, but they're just two examples right in the forefront of my mind on this. Who was trying to say, hey, Roger, a minute ago?
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It was Samuel. Yesterday, DeSanto said that, he's trying to work with the federal government to use the state militia, I guess Yeah. Or the state guard and the national guard in order to help deport illegals including being judges.
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Yep. Asking you just waiting on a technical authorization from somebody from, whichever to delegate the authority to them and that and he's the first one doing it. And, so the the country's waking up in a lot of ways and there's a lot of stuff coming out. And man, it is ugly. It is ugly what these people have been. As bad as we thought it was, is a hundred times worse. Just this little bit we know. Okay. I'll stop ranting here. I'm beginning to feel like Alex Jones.
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Well, Roger, if that guy, Bryant Israel or Brian, the head of, Overstock dot com, he's a works for the government a lot. Yeah. He's saying they're an analyst from the Chinese analyst, political analysts for every county in the country, and that they try to affect a policy from the dog catcher on up.
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I'm sure they do, but, you know, they got a heap of problems now, and especially now since Trump's turned the table on these tariffs. There's over 40 countries around the world that have come to Trump and wanna cut deals. Nobody has gone to China. Now probably with with, Carney getting elected in Canada and declaring war on Trump and the, the global alliance against Trump will probably be the first country that will attach to China in this cause. And that's another big concern. We've been worried about the southern border. Well, hell, we better start worrying about the northern border now and quick. K?
So any anybody else got something they wanna add? Brent, you wanna you got a comment on any of that that caught your ear or, or what?
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No. I the a lot of what goes on. I remember I told you last time that I was listening to last week, I think. I I listened to Tucker Carlson, and somebody was interviewing him and they said, well, what news outlets do you listen to? He said, I don't listen to any. Yeah. Either you read the newspapers. Are you kidding? No. Why would I read the newspapers? They're not gonna tell me anything that's true. Yeah. The news outlets are gonna tell me anything that's true either. I was on for hours every day giving commentary.
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And do you remember the next question the guy asked? Where do you get your information? He says, I interview people. Yeah. And and that's and if you're interviewing people, you're getting boots on the ground, and you're gonna get
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probably the truth and reading the paper. But the papers and the media outlets are all controlled by powerful people who control the narrative. It's that simple. Yep. When I was, involved in politics, we discovered that there were three about 300 news outlets that controlled everything that comes out of Washington, DC. Mhmm. Now in The States, I discovered there's often just one or two news outlet that controls everything that comes out of the state houses of your state. And they only let come out what they wanna come out, and they only comment on what they wanna comment on. And if you read the New York Times or the Washington Post, and those were the big ones when I was, and newspapers were big when I was running for office. That's been a while many a few decades back.
But we discovered that there's nothing in any of those that will tell you the truth. You don't you'd be a fool to read them. I listened to this one fella. All it's gonna do is is skew your mind and you begin to think that maybe there is something to what they're saying, and there isn't. One fella, his name was, he used to go to Martin Blackwell at an organization called the Leadership Institute, and he gutted the old cartography building of the of the US map service. And, he had big donors. He had been in the Reagan administration, and he became the state Republican party chairman of the state of Virginia.
And he got this whole building, close to DC, and he held the leadership institute there. And you could come there if you're running for office. It was all free. Free lodging. All the food you could eat twenty four hours a day, they had food out for you. The guy had money behind him. But then he would bring in people that would be expert in their particular area, how to set up a computer system. That was big back then because that was kinda new. And use that in politics because people haven't figured that out yet, how to dress before the camera, what kinda colors and what combinations when you're running for office, and how to campaign and and, what to say about, for example, that's where I met Larry Pratt. They invite somebody in that said, knows a lot about a particular thing, and he gave us lectures on the second amendment and what it means.
And so I learned a lot there, but one of the fellows that came, I believe the name of his organization was the Tax Freedom Institute. No. That wasn't it. I forget what it was. But he, said, how do you get to the truth? His lectures were about how to find the truth when you're running for office. And he said, well, you take most newspapers. Take, for example, I remember he held up the New York Times, which was a well known newspaper at that time. A lot of people read it. He said, what I do with the New York Times is I take all of these pages. They took all the pages of of from the New York Times, but one watered them up and threw them in the trash can. He said, I don't read any of that. Hang on. The New York Times accept the editorial page. And the only thing on the editorial page I read, and then he told the name of the editorial writer he read. He's the only one at the New York Times that will tell you the truth. All the rest of them are liars. And they're promoting things and talking about things that aren't even news, and and then they're telling you lies about what they mean.
Well so I I did learn that the first principle there that I came across was, the newspapers don't tell you the truth. Well, I found that to be true because they started writing things about me. And I look at it and I say, why are they saying this? This isn't true. I didn't even I didn't even say that to this fella who interviewed me. I said this. Why is he saying I said that? And you find out that politics is nothing. It's a culture of lies from one end to the other. And if you're not willing to engage in it, you won't last long. You'll never get into office. This is war. You know, what I chose to do in politics, just as an example, I just chose not to talk about a lot of things. I just didn't talk about it. People would ask me about some subject. And for example, they'd asked me about, homosexuality.
And I'd say, well, that's not a question for the general government in Washington, DC. I'm running for US Congress. And I say, here's the subjects that the constitution of The United States doesn't allow the Congress to pass legislation about or and or even have jurisdiction to debate. Number one, abortion. Abortion. And then a whole lot of the things followed after that, homosexuality. That the general government in Washington DC, the Congress of the United States, the Supreme Court of the United States, the president has no jurisdiction to say anything about those subjects. That belongs to the states, and the Supreme Court of the United States recently said that about abortion. Yes, sir. We're reversing Roe v Wade, and the states have all police powers within their within their territorial boundaries. They can decide what they wanna do in their state with this. This is not a subject for the federal government or the Supreme Court of the United States. It's not a subject that the constitution of The United States authorizes us to talk about. Period.
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Especially when it's based on a false affidavit that the affiant has recently admitted.
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Well, let let's say that yeah. I get that, Roger. But even if they were good affidavits of truth, the Supreme Court should have said we're not taking that case. The federal court said we're not taking that case. Yep. We have no jurisdiction over this matter, period. Yep. That's a matter for the police powers of the states. The the, jurisdiction of the federal courts, the Supreme Court, the president, the Congress is exceedingly narrow scope of jurisdiction. Yep. Just it has to be within what the constitution of The United States says, and it and most of what they hear, frankly, constitution doesn't give them jurisdiction to even hear. Mhmm. If we had it right, the states we'd be paying attention to the state courts, the state governments, because the federal government wouldn't been doing that much. You see, there weren't even any federal prisons until after the turn of the century, World War one. There were so few federal crimes. The only federal crimes that the federal courts ever prosecuted were Admiralty cases.
That's an exclusive jurisdiction of the federal courts. So if somebody committed piracy or a felony on the high seas or or, or they, committed treason. They'd throw them in they didn't have any prison, so they'd throw them into Leavenworth, which is a military prison or the navy brig down there in Virginia. They throw them in there. They didn't need any have any need for federal prison, and the federal courts didn't have much business at all, frankly. They just were there in case you needed them. Diversity jurisdiction. We talked about that with area of Hopkins versus area railroad. That did happen sometimes.
Yep. But the states are to be the center of attention and empower in America. Isn't it funny? Most all the income tax goes to the general government in Washington DC. Very little by comparison goes to the states. It should be the other way around. Should be the other way around. If we're gonna pay income tax, I don't think we should be paying it. But the state governments, what they end up doing is begging the general government in Washington DC for money. Well, what does that give that that gives them power over the states, over the governors, over everything. We don't want that. Why are we doing that?
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According I wanted to stop you and just make a small insertion here according to the Grace report. You're familiar with that. Right? Peter Grace? Grace Commission. Uh-huh. Yes. His statement was not one nickel of your income tax goes to the day to day running of the federal government. No. Ever ever dime of income tax goes to interest servicing what they call the national debt doesn't even exist. Until Yeah. They've paid that, and any excess is then given to the treasury evidently. Yeah. Yeah. And last year, 2423 was the first year since the inception of this little fiat game that they never had an access to give to the treasury Yep. Because of COVID and all the people that were locked up and all the repercussions of that that didn't file, and that was evidently a heavy impact on it. I wonder if it's continuing.
But yeah. Well, that hope you know, this whole thing, Trump's trying to get tariffs in here. I think that's a very wise move. It seems to be really panning out. And I don't know if you saw again, because I know you're traveling, not a news bug per se. You didn't see that room, the in the Oval Office with all those international businessmen the other day, did you? Where it's standing all up and Trump's reading off how much they pledged to bring plants in and manufacturing into the country. Do you see any of that, Brent? Oh, I heard tell of it, but I didn't see it. Over $9,000,000,000,000 already. Yeah. Okay. So it looks like the tariff thing's gonna work, and, we'll cross our fingers so we may have that take care of the income tax. The one of the most successful periods the country's ever had was from 1870 up until 1913 when we were exclusively on that tariff system. I've told the story here on the show. You ever remember a book that was floating around about twenty five, thirty years ago called Goodbye April 15?
Do you ever see that, Brent? It was a pretty good book on income tax at the time from what people knew. But in the back of that, he had a cartoon from the eighteen seventies, and it was a cartoon caricature of the senate and the well in the senate. And in the well, it was full of alligators because the country was becoming so wealthy through tariffs that they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate.
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Yeah. Well, we had plenty of money. We rent things rent. I didn't have all the money. We needed to do what we ever we thought we needed to do without income tax. So why is it we have income tax? And,
[01:42:48] Unknown:
the reason is go ahead, Roger. Go ahead. That's the it's the linchpin of this system. They can't bring in this debt money system without having some origin of the credit, And this is the origin of the credit tap. And the income tax is so necessary because it allows the system to continue to operate as long as it has without totally blowing up. Yeah. Because That's why the IRS is so fierce. We we have a guy on here came on yesterday. He's new. You know, he's been listening, and he's a farmer. And he said, Roger, can you help me not lay awake at night thinking about this? And we talked about it for a while. I said there's all only answer I can give you is just to learn the information and get the empowerment going and realize you've got the power that has been tricked and you've been deceived out of it, and this is how you get it back. And they recognize it.
And we've never had any of the IRS beating down your door or anything. You don't even understand how the process works, but that's how they've got people in fear of this. And you said, and I use this often, you've seen grown businessmen wet their pants when they get a letter from the IRS. Those are your words.
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Yeah. No. I've seen it. I mean, men who you think would, be bold in every way every way and sit and sit with me. I remember one fella, a well-to-do business man. He'd made a few billions, and he sat in the car with me outside a coffee shop, and it was raining, drizzling rain, and he couldn't he couldn't stop sobbing. He said, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. They're after me. And, that's what they want. They want you to be afraid of them. And understandably, because they have the power to throw you in prison, ruin your family, destroy your marriage. They'll try to do that. They've got every angle in the book, destroy your business and destroy your marriage. That's what they focus on first is your marriage. How can we split this man and his wife so he had doesn't have emotional support? We can take him down. Right. Well And then start screwing with your kids. I remember the saying from pastor Pete, you know, you serve the one you fear.
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Boy, is that true.
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It is true. So let's come back to reality, friends. Get off all the baloney about all the patriot mythology and the capital letters and all that kind of stuff. Get away from that, run from it, and go to the laws of nature. The laws of nature is God. If that becomes your passion, it's not something you can work up in yourself. It's something God works up in you. If that becomes your passion and your discipline, then you will slowly begin to enjoy your Christian life. You won't enjoy it before. No, Jesus Christ said, I came to bring you life. Okay. I got fire insurance. I'm not going to hell. He came to do that. He paid the penalty for your law breaking, but then he's added, I came to bring you life. I got it. Then and and that life more abundantly, life more abundantly. How does that come? Well, that's the enjoyment of the knowing that your future is secure. You don't have to worry about going to hell. How many people have I met? Say, well, I hope I'm good. I met a fellow this weekend. I hope I'm good enough to go to heaven.
Well, that's all you got? You're just hoping, but you don't know? You're living in misery, dude. You don't know. If I were you, I'd be worried every day of my life. No. The Bible says, I don't write I write these things to you. Not that you may hope, but that you may know you have eternal life. You may know why experientially, ginosko and then in the, in the new testament that you may know. And so the Bible doesn't say it's a matter of hope, but most false religion or and a lot of it, Protestant, Roman Catholic, all different kinds, they'll tell you you gotta do something. If you don't, if you don't do this, that or the other, God won't accept you. That's a lie from the pit of hell. You don't get into the family of God, the kingdom of God, by doing something.
Well, I walked an aisle. I know you don't get in that way either. Yeah. I confessed my sins. No. You don't get that way either. But I kept God's ten ten commandments best I could. And my good will outweigh my bad. God doesn't operate. And either you're either in or out. You're either good or bad. It's heaven or hell, black or white, saint or ain't. You're one of those, and it doesn't depend upon what you do and don't do. You don't get into the kingdom of the family of God by doing something at being a good person and you don't get out if you're a bad person. No, no. You get in just like you got into your family, here on earth. You get in by birth. God does it. You don't do it. And once you're in, you don't get out by doing something stupid. Oh, you'll do a lot of things stupid. You're doing them right now. Probably most of us, we live in that mode. We try to, but if at least we know the standard of God, we aspire toward it. We can experience the joys of having a decent life and having just a little bit of honor and dignity. And you don't have any otherwise, my friend, there is no option for honor and dignity outside of the Lord Jesus Christ, the maker of heaven and earth. He is the one that is worthy, not you. But he paid the penalty and you're forensically forensically forgiven of all your law breaking. And, you break the law of God, the Bible says right in the beginning, and the day you sin, you you're dead. You're separated. That means separated from the life of God and you're on the downhill slide.
Just that's all it takes. And that's all it took for our grandma and grandpa Adam and Eve. But by the authority and the declaration and the forensic pain of your of your, the penalty for your law breaking, God has set you into a perfect position, a perfect standing before him. Perfect. Perfected. You can't make it any better. Or you can try to. It won't change anything. You are his son. You are his daughter. Period. My father get mad at me, Roger. I've had him get really mad at me. I'll say, oh, I'm just gonna throw you out. You know? That's normal. That's why. I say, well, nice try, dad, but you can't run ring the bell, and what's done is done. I'm your son, and I can't make you not my father, and you can't make me not my not your son. It it's a done deal. God did it. God did it. I can't undo it. And what God does, no man can undo. It's not possible.
When he says when the when he says through his word that he has forgiven you of a double l, a double l, all of your sin. That means all. That means past, present, and future. Well, what about my future sins? Well, just think for a minute friend. When Jesus Christ paid the penalty for your sin by being nailed to a post naked and died a life for your life, when he did that, all your sins were future. He paid for all of them. Yeah. Past, present, and future. Yeah. And all of them were future when that happened. Yeah. Well, that's what the book says. I'm just telling you. I'm reporting what the book says. This isn't my opinion. These things are unambiguously
[01:49:38] Unknown:
the word of God. Yes. Nice. But Nice to know we can use the futures market too.
[01:49:43] Unknown:
Yeah. And we got a great retirement, so I can't beat it. Well, that's,
[01:49:50] Unknown:
let me stick my wet my finger here and stick stick it up in the winds. Anybody got any, questions or comments for Bren or myself? Star six. Come on in. We got a few minutes left. Hi, sir.
[01:50:02] Unknown:
There's just Julie. Yes? Miss Julie? Yeah. Hi. Yeah. I agree not using these all caps stuff, in these court cases, but the only reason why, Chad put these in there was because his arrest for his warrant was in all caps. And so he basically, put that in there. But there's a website called badboys.us, and it talks about all of the unsealed indictments by with all these, nefarious actors on pacer.gov and total top cases by state. The first state is Texas, the second is California, third is Arizona, fourth is New York, fifth is New Mexico, sixth is Florida, and you have Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, and my state of Virginia, which has 28,709, unsealed indictments. Texas has 352,140 unsealed indictments. I
[01:51:02] Unknown:
understand, the grapevine has it that I pick grapes from occasionally that there are slew of indictments coming, Brent. I don't know if you've heard that or not yet. Even though it appears they've been somewhat idle and stifled on the on the surface, they have been like a duck and paddling like hell underneath. That's what I'm told. So, anyway, we'll see. I know, James O'Keefe has got some kind of a major whistle blowing announcement coming this week. It's a new week. Uh-huh. And just things are being exposed, man. All these things that we would never dreamed we'd know of, and it's just the same old magicians doing
[01:51:42] Unknown:
the same basic old tricks. You know? I'm I'm in the business of exposing those things myself and, going into court and exposing the the sex perversion, the breaches of loyalty, I'm there. I'm I get it. I'm doing it too. Not as a prosecutor, but as a as a private citizen. Yeah. We're all there. I'm there. Cool. Yeah. Well, we're making progress. There seems to be waking up and and
[01:52:07] Unknown:
and the people seem to be turning more to Christianity, which we've discussed on here is probably the ultimate only answer for the real all this. Samuel might have one, though. What you got, Samuel?
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James O'Keefe made a very short little video. He's sitting on a regular little chair with sort of his hand in hand in head, and, he said, I'm in some real dangerous territory right now. I'm not suicidal. He got up, and he left the camera.
[01:52:38] Unknown:
Yep. And what has happened yeah. He made a shortened thing last week. And what has happened with all the whistleblowers that are coming forward, a couple that had been on the fence that were real important have come off the fence. That's what I think we're gonna see this week. Go ahead, Julie.
[01:52:56] Unknown:
Yeah. James O'Keefe also said he said I'm going dark. So he's he's had his life threatened big time, like, like Virginia, Guthrie or whatever. I mean, she didn't Yes. She didn't die from a bus hitting her. She would have the crap beaten out of her. Well,
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you know, it may it may have it may backfire on them because what's happening evidently is these volumes of information with all of these women. And some of them are contacting, Blondie there and saying, I don't care if my name's out there. Release the names.
[01:53:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Sometimes sometimes going public could save your life. Yes. Oh, yeah.
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If you've got something here's what I would come to understand, Brent, because I kinda had this with my situation and this information at one time. If you've got something that's real damaging to them and you haven't put it out yet, boy, that's when you're in danger. If you've put it out, now their concentration has to focus on keeping the fire ring retained and see if they can stifle its growth. That frees you. See? Because then if they kill you, you they make you a martyr and, you know, they don't like martyrs. They've been dealing with one for a couple thousand years now. Yeah, Paul? Once it's out there in damage control mode. Julie, what was that website again? Bad-boys.net?
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Yeah. It was it's bad, hyphen, b let's see here. Bad dash b o y s dot u s.
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Oh, dot u s. Okay.
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Did I say .com? I I apologize.
[01:54:35] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I no. I I was I was trying .netand.com. Neither one of those worked. So thank you for clarifying.
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Yeah. Thank you. And the sealed indictments are up 7,263 since the last update.
[01:54:50] Unknown:
Oh, good lord. Probably get that many just out of the states that you named a minute ago, Brent. Boy, there's some rocking suckers. They're they're they're starting to get real concerned. So, it looks like the wind's changing. The, the, our course can be altered, and, we're just gonna go full ahead. Anybody else got something for Brent or myself? Thank you, Jules.
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Yeah. If we if the trust got collapsed, I've heard yeah. Hi. George, Idaho. How are you doing, Roger? Hey, George. I haven't heard from you in a while. Brent and I hear what you got for us? Yeah. It was down South Of The Equator, so I couldn't really, it was really expensive to to call. Yeah. So There were. Yeah. Enjoy enjoying the exchange rate down there and and the motorcycle motorbikes and pushing the show Were you in our of the global south? Were you in Argentina
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or Oh, Brazil. Okay. I don't know. I've not been to Brazil. I hear some interesting stories about it. You you have a nice trip?
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We did. Yeah. Good family family trip first time for Easter and the processions and all that jazz and Oh, yeah. Mom's
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mother in law's birthday and all that. So Oh, wow. You had a whole round robin and stuff, didn't you?
[01:56:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Good to be back on what's left of Europe here. So Yes. As as we reach 54 demographic average, I think, of European now in the in trying to become just like England. But, yeah, it just was if we've collapsed the, if we've collapsed the trust by becoming nationals
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What trust? Question. What what
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what trust? The '4 fourteenth and fourteenth amendment trust and, of course, what they've done with the currency and everything else. If we've done that by becoming nationals, just a trust question, the federal jurisdiction that goes into the courts, including a lot of the local courts traffic wise and everything else, child support wise, all those different federal programs that have, kind of, put put us into federal jurisdiction. If we've collapsed that by being nationals, would it would it also go to state that we could take whatever they've done with the currency and give that back to them, return them what's called the reversion reversionary interest back to the treasury and, give the use of fraud back to the state. And I'm kinda curious as to trust law if, I know that, Brent works with trust law. I don't know if he's
[01:57:29] Unknown:
what his comments are on on that. Well, I I I don't I'm not aware. The trust you're thanks for calling in. The trust that you were talking about that needs to be collapsed, I'm not aware of any trust, like what you're talking about that needs to be collapsed. In other in other words, the government of the United States has no authority to establish a trust. The constitution doesn't give them that authority. If it's not there, they don't have the authority. They have no authority to incorporate anything. To set up all these corporations, TVA, at home, we had the Wabash Valley Authority, the Columbia River Authority, all of those. And the local, of course, the local, electric co ops, There's no authority the constitution gives the feds to do that, and that needs to be all ended.
So and the trust you're talking about, I'm not I'm not aware of that either. They have no authority to do that. So, I yeah. I'm not I'm not with it. I don't know the question. I can't identify what your question would be. Comment.
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Yes, Paul. I think what he's referring to as a I I think what he's referring to as a trust is actually the bond that was associated with the birth certificate. And that being the case, just because you filed an affidavit declaring yourself as a national doesn't dissolve that because you didn't create it, so you can't uncreate it. They're gonna still continue to trade it. Well, yeah. It was fraud. Go away, but if you can't
[01:58:59] Unknown:
these come on. Let's not be naive on who we're dealing with here. They're not gonna oh, Bo, George. File something. We gotta go pull all that out of Wall Street or however it is. That's not just gonna happen. So but the important part is this. You get to unhook yourself from the mechanism that's the debt collection for a fraudulent debt. That's what I see as the good side here, George. Just because you're no longer funding it Right. Doesn't mean it goes away. So, anyway, that I would What's going away Yeah.
[01:59:35] Unknown:
In other words, you're saying It was like a peace it's a peace treaty, in other words. But that's the most question after the Well,
[01:59:42] Unknown:
okay. We're gonna we're gonna cut the show because we do have limits as to time here with the server. And so always, we appreciate Brent, your your producer there in the background, miss Francine, and things that you bring us and the discussions that you spurn among the audience and, hopefully, get people thinking. So thank you again, Brent, as always. A joy Thank you. A good program with you, and we'll look forward to next week and see if there's any bombshells or landmines between now and them. And, if there is, I know we'll talk about it. But, we just really appreciate what you bring us. And if you don't have a church home, by the way, you can go to commonlawyer.com and, follow the link over to Brent's Sunday two hour service, which with Francine producing the music and the show is a very nice way to spend your Sunday morning should you not have a church home. Or if you just wanna stay home one day in the rain or snow and check something else out. We'll see you, tomorrow here and, Brent on his place.
Take care. Have a wonderful day. Thank you, Roger. Always a pleasure, Brent.
[02:00:58] Unknown:
Never let an opportunity to whack the wave hose off of a wilder beast pass you by.
[02:01:03] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a good that's a good title for today's show. Now, George, back to your, query here that we got interrupted with.
[02:01:15] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I was I wasn't really even caring about whether they've done something with bonds or whatever. It's about, like, with the lever code, if they've if they've kept us in and the question came up when you were on, Roger. If we're still under martial law based on the Libra code, if that's if that's the case based on Which some people seem to think. A peace. Mhmm. And never being a peace treaty after the Lincoln's war, the war between the states, whatever whatever was happening, that trust that got set up with the Gettysburg Address, or the Emancipation Proclamation.
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What
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What is A trust to hold it, George. You're always going off into this trust stuff. What trust was set up by the Gettysburg Address? I thought it was a very short and concise little speech.
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Yeah. And they they basically re kinda reconstituted the declaration of independence in that, in that if you look at how Lincoln's whoever wrote that, the words were. So if they were setting up a blood covenant again, then it's really interesting to say what happened as a result of that, you know, the banking act of 1864 and all, and how that put us into kind of a new the new realm that they that they wanted to create, like a globalization of United States, if you will. A global How about a federalization
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of The United how about a federalization of The United States? I think that's very accurate. World.
[02:02:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. Well, you gotta start somewhere. You have the Spanish. Yeah. You have the Spanish. We're right. You had the, Teddy got involved, Teddy Roosevelt, then you had the World War one, World War two. So, anyway, with the with the they they couldn't undo what they had already put up with the original, you know, our sacred our our sacred honor under the declaration of independence. So so now with the birth certificate, if that is indeed like a peace treaty so that you can you can be identified, if you will, as a as a man, as a as a you're it it's it's it's it's definitely evidence of an event that occurred, your physical birth. Right? Your physical, nature's god birth by the insemination and by the matriculation in your mother in gestation in your mother's womb. So there's a physical, natural birth. But then there's this piece of paper that they create that they that your mom signs, and that is something that they've created. So they've made Yeah. Treaty, if you will. And Well I guess that's what I was trying to get at. No. Okay. Hold hold on. Let's get the national Let's get the treaty and the trust. From that.
Mhmm. Go ahead.
[02:04:03] Unknown:
I was just gonna say because we know a little bit about this, George. And I don't know if you've heard those shows. The way I look at it is, you know, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born. Okay? You go back at a gal a gal whose father and grandfather both been doctors, and they had all those, doctors books from both of their careers and lives. And back then, life, began at conception, of course. But now it begins under the fourteenth amendment. And, so I think my question to you is when are you, quote, unquote, born? If you're halfway out of mama's birth canal, are you born yet? Are you in the process of being born?
Well, I think the obvious answer there. The way I look at this is up until your feet, unless you're a breech birth, come out of mama's birth canal, you're not born. Therefore, you're not a person under the fourteenth amendment, and you have no legal protection. That's why in the room, you're fair game. Once your feet come out of mama's birth canal, you're born. You're a person. They generate this document. And, what John always thought I've never seen anything John Benson thought that didn't hadn't turned out to be correct over all these years. And he thought that they were using that as a commercial document.
It's called a warehouse receipt. They're still used today. They've been used for a long time in commerce where the paper and this is an old Supreme Court case. The paper actually takes on the personum, the personality of the good. The paper become the good becomes the good it represents. And that's how they're using it, and that's evidenced by Brian Howard, who I get to speak with, I guess, today later for the first time in a few years. Brian Howard went to the hospital in Austin where his children were born and got it straight from the office. And when that say that birth certificate is finally printed at the Bureau of Vital Statistics, it's put into a bank safe with armed guards twenty four hours, seven days a week.
That's straight from the hospital, George. That's not Patriot BS. That's straight from the office at that hospital that handled and oversaw the procedure. K? So those are things we know that are facts, and I believe that's true. And because, it makes a lot of sense that that's what they do. And the who are we dealing with? The merchants of the earth. Why are we under the UCC? Because they know things like this that they can use in situations like this that other people know probably wouldn't understand. Okay?
So that's what I'd stop you with and inject at this point. And when you file that, I don't think you are what we do has anything to do with that. K? I don't think they're gonna recognize it from the standpoint of taking whatever is assigned in commerce or on bonds or whatever. Now this is an interesting aspect of that, though. If and, of course, you're never gonna get them to admit that's what's going on. But by the process of elimination, you come to see and knowing how they think and do things and how things work, if that's the way they got and and run this whole shenanigan. They get a property right in you. That way, they can pull this little financial scam, and this is the origin of the credit spout.
There is no money. There's only credit. And the credit origin is when they collateralize your future labor, attach it to this bond, and sell it to some investor over some time frame. Your taxes are inextracted to pay those coupon payments. So I don't know about trust or or any of the other stuff. That's what I know. And as long as I've been in here in this thing and teaching it, that that appears to be exactly what they're doing. Now we've had it confirmed from a number of angles like that hospital in Austin, Texas.
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Right
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there. Yes. Okay. Brent first, Julie.
[02:08:32] Unknown:
Oh, just quickly. I understand it stands to reason. We know reading the history of taxation that they depend the the banks that want they want the money, and the government says, well, we got this many this this much population out here producing, so we'll use that as collateral. Yeah. And when you were in school, they came around. When you're in high school, they come around, and there'd be one of the students that had a part time job at the principal's office. They'd come around every first class of the day at 08:00 and ask everybody, how many people were there.
And they'd take that information, how many people were in the high school that day, and the principal would get on the telephone. Back at that time, it was the telephone. He'd call the state capitol, and he would report to the state capital how many people were in school that day. And according to how many people were in school over a hundred and eighty days or however many days where they had school, that's how much money that school system got. In other words, it was all for financial reasons. What were they doing? They were prostituting children for money Yep. For their local school district. And they wanted that money. It's all coming down to jobs for teachers and jobs for other people. We say, but we gotta do that. I'm not saying right or wrong. I'm just saying, listen. It's all about carcasses and money.
Yeah. And birth certificates are the same way. Mhmm. It's all about that's proof. We got a live carcass. We got the potential to borrow money on the collateral. We can say, well, in the future, if we borrow this money another twenty years, this this this individual that was born on the basis of that and our actuarial tables, how many will live to be long old enough to work and make money, the banks will loan money. Yep. And that's not there's nice prostitution of babies. But there never has been a time, and in all of Europe for centuries, it wasn't it wasn't called a birth certificate. It was called a certificate of baptism.
Right. Stored in the local cathedral. And that was what said that you were part of the country. If you weren't baptized, you hadn't have record of it as a baby. You weren't part of the country. We haven't changed. It's always been this way. I'm not arguing the right or wrongness of it, but to have proof of live birth, and that's what we're talking about. Yeah. You're part of the system. See? And I'm not saying that's necessarily
[02:10:42] Unknown:
a bad system, except this. It's like the biblical when the, when we got a good king, the people rejoice. When there's a bad king, the people moan. Well, when you got good, honest system that benefits everybody, the people rejoice. When you got this small, little, greedy bunch that wanna control you and suck your essence out with about seven or eight damn different layers of compound interest, well, that's when the people moan.
[02:11:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Now back in your that's right, Roger. In Europe, when that happened, if you came along during the reformation and you said, well, I don't think the baptism of Rome is valid, and we're gonna we're gonna rebaptize by pouring or sprinkling whatever. They call them the rebaptizers. The they call them Anabaptists is the Greek word. Rebaptizers. Listen. When you got burnt at the stake for being an Anabaptist, see, what you were saying is my birth certificate is no good. Here's how important that was to them that your birth certificate was valid. Because that's what baptism certificate is, an infant baptism. They said, I I don't want that anymore. I'm gonna do it myself. Well, when they did that, if you were an Anabaptist and taught that, they didn't just, they didn't put you at the stake and strangle you and burn you. They burned you alive.
They burned you alive. They burned the people that translated the Bible and the ones that did not promote Anabaptism, the reformers that just said, we believe the Bible is final, but we'll accept the baptism of the church. Oh, we'll just burn you. We'll strangle you so you don't suffer in the flames. You see? But the Anabaptists know. You reject that birth certificate, the certificate of baptism, and we'll, we'll make it hurt for you. So there was something very important about that something very important to the powers that be about that certificate of baptism. My my perception is it is equal to what we call today, a birth certificate here in America.
[02:12:29] Unknown:
Probably. Now here's another interesting fact behind that. Certificate, not the baptism. Okay. Hold on, George. I wanted to add this. The birth certificates originated in The States. Lisa looked it up here on the show one day. We're talking about it. I believe the first state was in the eighteen fifties, and it was, like, Illinois or one of the states. And and and so but they didn't have it. I think they just used it as sort of some sort of an identification of the birth. The federal birth certificate law was passed right smack dab in the middle of the first depression in 2122.
It was a very short lived depression because the president, with the Coolidge or whoever it was, didn't go in there and mess with it. He just let it work with natural forces out. It only lasted two years, but that's when the feds took that on. And I think in the timeline, because they knew they were gonna flip this system about twelve years later, and those were gonna be the first replacement collateral for the new United States that they flipped two and thirty three as collateral for the bonds. And I that's what I think. I've not got no proof. I just think that's what it is. Makes sense. Now, Julie was trying to say something, and I'm gonna defer to her, a couple of guys or men back there. But, Julie, what you got?
[02:13:48] Unknown:
Well, I was just gonna, expound on what George was saying about the Gettysburg address. I my readings, and I don't know if they're correct or not because we have a lot of dis disinformation, but, when SDR did the bankruptcy in 1933 with the bond market, my understanding is that the Bank of International Settlements is the trustee
[02:14:10] Unknown:
Probably.
[02:14:11] Unknown:
Trust, and the trust owns the government of the United States corporation. Well Congress are the employees of that
[02:14:20] Unknown:
corporation. Well, initially, I think it the International Monetary Fund is the immediate trustee because if you go to the code in title 28, which is treasury, and I don't know the section, but there's a one sentence, and it says the secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund.
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So he's the governor of international.
[02:14:44] Unknown:
But but no doubt, the BIS controls the International Monetary Fund. And virtually, what did I hear somebody talking about it the other day? A 73 central banks around the world plus all the markets, all the stock markets, all the futures markets, all the penny markets, all the whatever markets. They control all of them.
[02:15:03] Unknown:
Yeah. And, the, my but my understanding also is that the United Nations owns the IMF.
[02:15:10] Unknown:
Well, it may. I don't know how they've got it structured, but anything, it's no doubt under the control of the BIS because everything else is. Yeah. Yeah. And they've got themselves set up, whoever I forget who was talking about this the other day. They're they're like the Vatican and DC and the City Of London. They've got their own passports. They they can't come on the property and serve you papers. It's just totally Yep. So yep. Little Basel, Switzerland right there. That little patch of dirt. I don't know how big it is, but they got some pretty big mojo.
[02:15:51] Unknown:
Yeah. But Roger, I've also heard I've also heard that, the United Nations, which is headquartered in New York City, that portion of New York City is not owned by The United States Of America. It is its own separate country within,
[02:16:06] Unknown:
The United States that was given to the United Nations. Do you know what the where the land came from?
[02:16:14] Unknown:
Educate me.
[02:16:15] Unknown:
Rockefellers donated it. It was formerly the slaughterhouse that all all the animals were slaughtered for New York City. Yeah. Doesn't surprise me. Nice little all of them. Nice little patch of dirt. Okay, George.
[02:16:31] Unknown:
You got you got a comment? Right. There's yeah. The the, well, the and it was interesting. Is there there was a Georgia Sales who had done a lot of research of the, separation of the circuit court from the parliament over I don't know if he's in relation to you.
[02:16:48] Unknown:
But how do you spell his name? Bill how do you spell his name? That's the indicator. Is there a y in it? S a
[02:16:55] Unknown:
yeah. S a y l e s. We're related somehow. A dogget researcher. Yeah. He, spent fifteen years, three months a year, fifteen years, tearing apart the old timey, British documents that showed when the king went took his took his circuit and went around and made judgments and stuff. So it's pretty interesting. Yeah. Well, we've been raising hell for a long time, haven't we? Yeah. And how the canon law the church really you know, a lot of people think the that the king said all the law, but it actually was the church that they adopted a lot of the what was already there from the Romans and from the from the Roman church later. But the the king did have the last call on a lot of the law, but it was really interesting because they were the, like, there's a lot of philosophy even from, Cook and Blackstone that everything had originated, you know, within the within the king. But a lot of it had been, you know, adapted from the Roman and from the from the other, laws that were there. But, but, yeah, the, thing that I came across, which I used to think a lot about, the birth certificate being kind of the substitute for the baptismal certificate, but there was also something that's called the settlement certificate. And I didn't know if you guys had done any research on that because supposedly I never heard of it. Her popper on the passport is actually, originates from that settlement certificate.
So,
[02:18:26] Unknown:
that was from the eighteenth. Never even heard of it, George. Have you ever heard of it, Brent? A settlement certificate?
[02:18:32] Unknown:
No. Uh-uh.
[02:18:34] Unknown:
So what happened was, beginning in 1773 with the Enclosure Act, and then the Enclosure Consolidation Act of eighteen o one, English parliament effectively privatized massive amounts of common land for the benefit of a few, causing huge numbers of land peasants to become landless paupers. And I was kind of reminiscent of, you know, Social Security Act and becoming landless as far as the gold coming from the land, you know, and then coming up with this insurance scheme called Social Security, which gave everybody a banking number. And then, of course, you know, the Federal Reserve had been even planned back in the late eighteen hundreds, you know, after the banking act of 1864. It just didn't come about magically in 1913 or whatever. So, anyway, if you look up settlement certificates, quite interesting, and I'd be curious what your research would show and how it,
[02:19:26] Unknown:
is probably related to our birth certificate more so than the baptismal certificate maybe, but I yield. Well, you know, what I like to do is take real curious students in these kind of obscure issues and say, why don't you go off and do the research and come back and give us a little thumbnail book report? So, anyway, don't know I've never heard that document. I I know that that I believe that one of the purposes like they do duality stuff to all through this plan, a colloquial definition, a technical definition. And that they're Yeah. Using that document in one respect as an ID document of your birth. And underneath that, they're fraudulently using it as a warehouse receipt. Brent, sorry to interrupt. Go ahead.
Oh, I don't I didn't remember I was saying anything. Oh, I thought some I thought that was usually was somebody saying something?
[02:20:17] Unknown:
I was just gonna give you the, the blog. This is escapeesblog.wordpress.com, and that's where you can find this research that I'm just speaking about. So yeah.
[02:20:26] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:20:29] Unknown:
You bet.
[02:20:30] Unknown:
Alright. Who else? You got anything here? My stomach is starting to growl like a little a a little bunch of kittens or puppies. Yeah. So, Brent, nothing nothing from your side? Oh, and I again,
[02:20:47] Unknown:
thank everybody for their participation and, their comments and questions. It stimulates Mhmm. A lot of thought. And,
[02:20:58] Unknown:
thank you, Roger, and Marco too. But I We, we got a hell of a brain trust here. It's interesting to bring these issues into the brain trust and see how, from different people what their conclusions might be. Anyway, Brent, you be safe. And it sounds like you're off driving around traveling again. Uh-huh. So be safe, and, we'll, look for you next week. And and always a pleasure.
[02:21:22] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. Likewise, we'll be talking. Alright, Brent. Be careful.
[02:21:27] Unknown:
Right. We are very fortunate audience to have someone of mister Winter's accomplishments with us on such a regular basis for so long. So, anybody else got anything for me? I'm gonna consider that a no, and I will, see y'all back here at the Old Ranch in the morning about the same time. And, Paul, have a good day. I hope to get all your technical stuff straight. What I was gonna say a minute ago sorry. Brent left. One day when I think it was on Paul on the show or when I was talking to him or something. And he said, you know, as I look back over the history of London, I see that the country was run-in a much more organized fashion when the Catholic church was in charge.
Uh-huh. I thought that was pretty interesting comment, Paul. Oh, you haven't got left yet. Good. I'm glad you got to hear that.
[02:22:29] Unknown:
And Chicago was more, more in order when Capone was in charge too, by the way. There you go. There you go. And and and Las Vegas and Reno, were more in order when the mob ran them before the nineteen eighties.
[02:22:43] Unknown:
Yeah. They could snap it up pretty quick. So, get you straightened out real quick or horizontal. Yes, sir?
[02:22:52] Unknown:
Before Brent goes, I just wanna ask him a quick question. Maybe he could answer it next show. But there's a lot of there's a lot of students that seem to believe that the United States government the United States federal government is a corporation. I've even heard I think on your on the radio ranch, a student maybe a year ago or whatever, somebody said that they found evidence that The United States Government is bankrupt, and it's it they filed some type of bankruptcy filing, and it's in a it's in a, filing cabinet somewhere in Florida. And, you know, when I asked AI that question, of course, AI didn't know anything about that. And then if you ask AI, you know, is the federal government a corporation, it says no. It's a body politic.
And, you know, it's it's, established because of the constitution. And, and a lot of students, they seem to believe that the federal government is a corporation based on there's one code in the US code at 28 United States code paragraph three zero zero two fifteen in parentheses. United States means a federal corporation. That's a, b, an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of The United States, or c, an instrumentality of The United States. And, so based on my research, what a federal corporation is would an example of that would be the United States Postal Service is a corporation. That's a federal corporation. The FDIC that that, you know, banks have, that's a federal corporation.
You know, things like that are what's known as a federal corporation. The United States government has, authority or oversight over these federal corporations. And I was wondering if Brent agrees with that analysis.
[02:24:53] Unknown:
Hey, Larry.
[02:24:56] Unknown:
Can you let's see if Brent can answer the question, Julie. Yeah. Brent what because he was gonna go here. Brent, do you got any response to that, or you wanna deal with it later?
[02:25:11] Unknown:
Well, I think I was talking I was talking, and the mic was off. So, yeah, I do wanna respond to that. And, it's important. None of that is true. None of it. For a couple of reasons. Just fundamental reason. You have to do a lot of research to figure this out. Number one, does the government of the United States own anything? Is legal title to any real estate or equipment in the United States government? That's the first question. Obviously, yes. Obviously. Yes. What about your state government? Does your state government hold legal title to any land or buildings or equipment? Obviously. Yes. In the name of your state government.
Well, how can that be possible? There are only two ways in our common law tradition and really in reality for anybody to say they own anything. You either gotta be a hot headed person. When I say hothead, I mean, a live body, a real man or woman. They can hold prop, legal title to property, or the only other option is a corporate entity that the state has created, like a corporation, an LLC, an LLP. All of those are creations of, government, of the sovereign the sovereign. That's number one. So, obviously, obviously, all governments have always been corporations.
You can't have a government that's not incorporated, and they don't even have to do anything to be incorporated. The courts will always recognize there's a corporate reality to government. Period. So don't get off this is my advice for what it's worth. Don't get off and talking about, well, the government is incorporated. How terrible? No. No. No. No. No. They are a corporation. You can't have a government unless they are. That's number one. Number two number two, the bankruptcy, the government of the United States cannot be officially in bankruptcy. That's impossible as a matter of law. Why? Because the government of the United States is a sovereign, just like your state government.
They can't take bankruptcy. Number two, they are the ones that have the only exclusive jurisdiction in our country to, allow bankruptcy. That's the general government of the United States. Our constitution of The United States gives exclusive bankruptcy jurisdiction to the what we call the federal government. State governments have no jurisdiction over bankruptcy, and the federal government cannot declare itself bankruptcy as a matter of law. And if there are no filings that are public, it's not true. Of course, even if there was a filing that was public that the United States government is bankrupt, it would be invalid.
That's, as a matter of law, impossible. Are are they bankrupt, in in as a matter of common sense? Well, I hear tell they are, but I don't care one way or the other. I don't owe that money. It's all it's all smoke and mirrors. It's all a sham. I used to say that. I ran for congress. So forget it. And we say, oh, they declared bankruptcy and talking about the declaration of what we know, the Gettysburg Address. The Gettysburg Address didn't has no evidence of any intent to incorporate anything. Read it short. It's real easy to read. Yep. No evidence at all or to establish a trust and without intent to establish by expression of words. None of those things happen again as a matter of law.
[02:28:29] Unknown:
We're overthinking ourselves here. I agree. Hope a %.
[02:28:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Get get off of the minutia and get to the fundamentals. In our common law tradition, a Christian man or woman operates his life according to a few fundamental first principles. And anything that doesn't conform to those, you throw it out of your thinking. Life's too short. All that minutia that we talk about is a waste of our time. But, again, I I speak with conviction, but I hasten to add that I appreciate everybody who brings those things up because we all need to discuss it, and it give me an opportunity to say my piece. And I enjoy very much being able to do that here, and I can do that because of you. So I don't demean anybody for saying whatever they've said. I just get my chance to weigh in, and I appreciate that. And I'm weighing it in and giving you my personal heartfelt deep conviction testimonies, and I call it Patriot Mythology. It has overrun otherwise right headed people. And the devil himself is behind it all, and he wants you distracted from from the what Jesus Christ calls the weightier matters of the law. Right. The weightier matters. That's what governs everything. And going out here, John, I've gotta say one more thing right here. John the baptizer came and he said, I'm fed up. He said, it's time that we laid the axe to the root of the poisonous tree. Yep. We've been hacking around the branches and the leaves and fiddling around like a bunch of goofuses on things that don't matter and don't control anything. Yep.
All scattered fires but end in smoke and noise. The scorn of men, the idle play of boys. If we would win our power, we or win win the day with power, we must frame points of support and look with steady aim, attack their weak points, defend your strong with heart. But watch this. Strike but few blows, but strike them to the heart. Amen. Heart. Don't play with all this patriot mythology minutiae. It's the devil's way of getting off of things that will control everything.
[02:30:40] Unknown:
Back to you, Roger. Well, I just wanna say that I I understand the curiosity of people seeing that and being curious like a cat. Mhmm. But the question, any of these the the the the demarcation line is what effect does it have on what we teach and the successes we've had here? Does that have any effect or potential effect on what we do? And if it doesn't, I really yeah. We'll just talk about it. It could be interesting, but I agree with Brent. It's all all that I've ever found is patriot mythology. People looking for what we've got here. Yes. Who's trying to say something?
[02:31:14] Unknown:
Oh, printing money. I mean, down in Brazil, I could get $5.80 for my dollar. You know? So but the pressure of inflation is worldwide monetary system.
[02:31:25] Unknown:
Which can't help but be. Which we In any debt in any debt based We talk about in any group. Yeah. So how do we address the crux? So this is a way
[02:31:34] Unknown:
if we can use this trust in a way and use this, piece this piece treaty certificate in a way. I think it's it's valuable to everybody who's not a, you know, retired or fixed income in a in a country where you're getting $5.80 for your dollar. You know? So that's why I'm not trying to be, pedantic about it. I'm just saying this is reality. We have grandchildren and children that are gonna be trying to form families as well. Now they can get on the record basis. No. I get it. There is no trust. You know what I'm saying? So we got No. Yeah. Yeah. There is a trust. I mean, there's total. There's there's a there's a there's a huge treaty, I think, that they There is no they had to do. They had to after the after the after the confederate war and the war between the states, they had to do a peace treaty of some sort for the people. And and the evidence of that is the fourteenth amendment as well as the thirteenth amendment. No. There was no peace treaty. There was no peace treaty. There was a surrender?
[02:32:25] Unknown:
Yeah. There was a surrender, but there was never a declaration of war. We never declared our enemy. And if you don't have a declaration of war, there is no, as a matter of law, gonna be a peace peace treaty, and there wasn't. It was just total annihilation and subdue subduction of the South. And then Lincoln, of course, he wanna just let things go back to normal as did his vice president. So they shot Lincoln, and then they threw the other one, tried to throw him and peach him, throw him out of office. Andrew Johnson from East Tennessee. But all of this is just patriot mythology. That's what I'm telling you. What was that war? It was a bloody, dirty, rotten, low down mess on both sides. I don't justify anybody. There was it was wrong from the jump. It was nothing but slaughter and murder for no reason at all. It should've never happened, but it did. And the South was a stupid or more stupid than the North. They should have known. Bottom line, you don't pull a gun on somebody that's got the drop on you. And they pulled a gun on somebody that had the drop on you on them before they ever started. The war was over before it ever started. They did not have the wherewithal to fight it. And as Jesus Christ said, you don't do that kind of stuff. You lay out the plan first. They never did that either. So the South has been annihilated all these years. We've all paid for it. The North was annihilated.
700,000 dead men almost for nothing.
[02:33:44] Unknown:
Nothing but more hell and more trouble. That's all it was, and we've never gotten over it. I've got a unique thesis for any of it. What's that? I've got a unique thesis, Brent. I've come to the conclusion that the civil war was started to get these two amendments in the constitution so they could control The US with it eighty years later. And through The US and the dollar, being the world reserve currency, the world through it because that's the way the whole thing operates. And I can't believe that all just
[02:34:12] Unknown:
by chance happened. I think the devil did that, but I don't anybody involved had the wherewithal, the foresight to see that, but I think the devil did orchestrate it. I get that. I'm with you. He orchestrates. The Bible says he orchestrates all wars for that reason. Yeah. Bloodshed, stealing, death, and murder, and it destroys. That's what he wants to do. And I want to say something else. Yeah. The South could've won the war with the Battle of Manassas, the first war of the civil war. They could've walked into Washington DC. The federal Northern army wasn't even formed yet, and it was,
[02:34:44] Unknown:
the the little Jew, Dumehatchee's pet Jew, that told the the that told the army back. That's why the southern generals hated, and I I can't believe his name escapes me. The guy from Louisiana. Judah p Benjamin. Judah p Benjamin. Yeah. Thank you very much. Judah p Benjamin. So For all of that. He died as the queen's head barrister. Right?
[02:35:10] Unknown:
But all of that has no legal force anymore. No. I mean, it's just interesting history. No. The fourteenth amendment even is over. That when when the purpose for that was over, the fourteenth amendment had no more force, and it doesn't. And all of the civil rights that act laid dormant and slept for almost a hundred years because they had no force. They were falsely resurrected. Get this. The first the first nationwide injunction was issued by a federal court in 1963. That's unlawful. Why did they do it? Well, they were they were doing things that were unlawful because they had an unlawful purpose. And with the civil rights act as as the the parliamentarian said over there a long time ago, necessity is the plea of every infringement of human liberty. Yep. Oh, we must. We must, have this white injunction because we gotta put all these black people back to where they will have the freedom, but it never happened. Yep. They're abused more today than they are. They've been politically used and abused and prostituted since the Democrats started doing it under Johnson about 1963 when that started.
[02:36:17] Unknown:
It's just abusing the black man. Trump's Trump's talking about rolling all all the way back to there.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm seeing you're aware of. I I'm go ahead. Somebody said something. What was it? Go ahead.
[02:36:31] Unknown:
Speaking of the fourteenth amendment, do you believe it was properly ratified? Because there's a congressional record that says it was never there there's a lot of congresspeople. This took place, I guess, back in the, the maybe the eighties or so. And that's on the congressional record that the there's a lot of congressmen
[02:36:52] Unknown:
didn't believe on the It it was put in the congressional record by a Louisiana house member named John Rarick, r a r I c k. And I'm sure more than likely, he was a John Birch Society member, and it's been in there, I think, since the sixties.
[02:37:11] Unknown:
It's been there a while. I've read the familiar with it. I read the material. It seems highly likely that it wasn't properly ratified, but neither were the other amendments around that time. But the reality is the reality is its purpose is expended. Let me give you an example from the bible. Maybe it helps somebody. The priesthood of Levi had a purpose. It was to look forward to the coming of the Messiah. The Messiah has come. That purpose is no longer there. So the priesthood of Levi is over because it no longer has the purpose. It's in the Bible. Yes. But it was there for a time for a very special purpose. The book of Hebrews explains all that. That's true in our system of law. Once the reason for legislation no longer exist, the legislation has no more force. It's over.
And the fourteenth amendment was put in place for slaves that had been freed. And all of those slaves that have been freed are dead. They're gone. The purpose is over. That's normal law. That's happened in our country a lot on the state level, the federal level, and, it should be applied here. And let's get back to just being Americans and cut the stupidity And giving people special our our preamble to our constitution says that we the the welfare of the general government in Washington DC is to be general. That's why we call it the general government. That means it applies to everybody equally. Any welfare that comes out and targets the man that has a a skin tone that's a different color than mine is ipso facto by law unconstitutional.
And that's what Trump is saying now. Let's get out of this stupidity. It's torn our country apart. It's all race baiting. It's all greed. It's all Divide and conquer. Yeah. In in in a cold case, envy and hatred and the law god didn't allow it. God didn't allow it in the bible. God says everybody within the territorial boundaries of a a nation is under one law, ehad, one, oneness. And if you do anything different, it will come to chaos, death, despair, and trouble beyond anything you could imagine. Yeah. We've had that experience here in some cases. They've had it in Europe. You can look at the examples of it. It doesn't work. Why doesn't it work? God said it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna work. The Bible's clear. Why don't we read the book? And just say, wait a minute. This doesn't work. By the way, we can look at history and see that it did not work. So why are we trying it again? And, again, we keep building our cans our our our sandcastles on the beach.
And the inundating tides of reality come every tide and wash them back out to sea again. And then we say, oh, let's let's do let's think about what nobody ever thought about before and try it again and be stupid and waste our time and our money and our lives. Yeah. Why don't we just turn the law turn the laws of nature? But if we just try it one more time, then modernism will work this time if we can try it. And I start to call that stupid, but go ahead. What is it?
[02:40:09] Unknown:
All scratch these programs in in the three hour shows. Go ahead.
[02:40:16] Unknown:
Follow-up question to what you how to to your response when I asked the question about is the US government a federal corporation, and you said that is to saw the federal government is a is a sovereign and also on a past show, you mentioned that when you're describing the case with the Indian that there's two sovereigns that were kind of kind of butting heads, the state and the federal government. And, you know, of course, the people I've heard the people are the sovereign. So how do you how do you, explain that that relationship?
[02:40:54] Unknown:
The people created the federal and the state governments. Right? So it's the people that are the sovereign and yet you use the word sovereign to describe two entities that were created by the people. Can you explain all that, please? Yeah. Well, thanks for asking. And it is it is a fiction. It's all a fiction. We call it a fiction of law. It's something we say that's true that ain't, but it works. It's something that's we say is true, but it ain't true, and it works. That's our common law tradition. Our common law tradition is about fact, not logic. And you're asking me, of course, that we'd like this we like things to make sense logically, but if they're fact, it doesn't make any difference whether they do or not. For example, let me give you another example, freedom of religion and, all that. We have it in the first amendment, two clauses.
The free exercise clause is one of them. And we say, well, we can have government, the sovereign government, the the federal government that enforces all this, and there is no religion there. That's a fiction. It's not possible to have a government without religion because it's not possible to have a government without law. And therefore, you gotta have a law giver who's the ultimate law giver, who's the final arbiter of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. Do we have that? Yes. We have that down here on land.
We have the true sovereign. Sovereignty, we we call it limited sovereignty down here on land. That's a fiction too. Sovereignty is an absolute. There's no such thing as limited sovereignty. But because we don't know how else to describe it, we say within this jurisdiction, this realm down here on land, men right now have the power to create sovereign governments from whose decision there is no appeal except to heaven. Because god himself is the sovereign of all creation, heaven and earth, sky and land. But down here on earth, he's delegated this sovereignty to us within our realm. So these are fictions. No question. There's not a a country in the world that's ever tried to do what we're doing. Matter of fact, all the countries of the world said about The United States, you can't have dual sovereignty. You can't have sovereignties of states and then sovereignty of a general government and then sovereignties of 50 competing states all in one country. That's not possible. Sovereignty is an absolute. There must be one sovereign. Even the Englishman said that. You gotta have one sovereign or it won't work.
Well, we're not trying to be logical. We got 51 sovereigns, 51, 50 states and the general government, and it's working. And we have more freedom and more prosperity than any country in the history of Adam's race. Yeah. Why? Because it works. That's why I say logic is not the governing thing here. And we want to have everything explained and everything wired. I'll tell you who wants to have everything wired, and that's false religion. False religion is not content with fact. There are things that I just said to somebody the other day. I said, I can think of two things I know are absolutely true, and I know that nobody has ever been able to explain how. One of them is gravity. Whole lot of theories, but nobody knows how it works. And the other thing, I could think more than this, but another one is the germination of of corn kernels.
I can take corn kernels that have been dead for a number of years, put them in the ground. Why the ground? A little bit of moisture, and and all of a sudden, what is dead comes the lot comes to life and produces a lot of corn kernels. Mhmm. Jesus Christ uses that same analogy. He says, in order for the resurrection of man to happen, he has to die. Well, now die means die. That means dead. You're dead. How does only God, according to the Bible, has the power and the authority to spontaneously produce life out of what is dead. And he does so. He does so with every seed that's planted in the ground, the bible says, and he he's gonna he did so in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and he's gonna do so with us. And the evidence that that was in the ark of the covenant preserved as evidence there was the the the almond branch that budded spontaneously. It was cut off of the tree. It was dead and nothing left in it, and it budded and grew. God can do that because God is the author and the source of all life. He can put it where he wants, and he can take it when he wants. He who has the power to give has the power to take. You're asking me to explain. For example, I gave a lecture last night on trust.
I'm telling it to a group of people. And, I've made the point that it's not all logical. Matter of fact, one trust treatise I have, professor from a university in Suffolk there, he starts out the treatise, a long treatise on trust, and he says the doctrines of the trust are as mysterious to most people, including lawyers, as is the doctrine of the trinity. The these doctrines that I'm talking about are not contradictions, but they're not something we can explain. The doctrine of what we call the trinity is not in any sense a contradiction according to the laws of logic, but it is something we can't explain.
Contradiction is a contradiction. Two things that can't be can't be true, cannot be true at the same time and in the same relationship. Well, the trinity doesn't fit that. The deity of the three persons of the godhead do not fit that contradiction, that contradiction requirement, as do a lot of other things. Our common law is like that. These are not contradictions, but these are things that man cannot sufficiently explain using his puny brain. God could explain them. He's explained a lot of things, but he has chosen not to explain everything. Fact is what governs in our common law culture, not theory, not scholasticism, not logic. And as Merriman, professor at Bull Hall, once said, a comparative lawyer, he said, where where, logic and reason, are stressed, fact has a way of receding from consideration.
That's fact. All of the world Blackstone made this point in his commentaries. The whole law of the city tradition of every country in the world is upside down. The canon laws of the church of Rome, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and all the rest of the countries of the world are under that same fundamental code of Justinian, and all of them start with logic. You can't start with it. I mean, anybody who studied logic a little bit knows you got to have a fact that is self evident or logic won't get you to the truth. You have to start with fact. And the discernment of fact is the most important thing that anybody can do. Don't worry about the logic. You can do the logic. Anybody can do the logic. I said that a while ago, I think. That's the way god made us. We think. That's what differentiates us. Where is that coming from? Yo. Yo. Who's got the feedback? Yeah. Feedback.
So, you're saying, well, how do you explain sovereignty? Let me get back you have dual sovereignty. Sovereignty is an absolute. It doesn't admit of any other sovereignties. But we have this fiction that god has allowed to us of, multiple sovereign sovereignties down here on land called nations. And what sovereignty means is that a sovereign answers to no other power, as we say, an a sovereign nation answers to no other power down here on land. My father was in the he was in the South Pacific during the war, and he met these two fellows from Britain. And they were serving in the US military forces, as sailors, to try to get their citizenship.
And they had been merchant mariners before that. And this poem, and I I need to memorize it better, but it talks about the sea. And it says the sea in time takes everything down. It retains what it keeps and returns what is found. There is no power this is what I was getting to. There is no power it's been known to obey, except the power that saved Peter when he looked away. Now those of you that went to Sunday school will know what that means. The point he was making is the sea as and, obeys no one. But we discover from the testimony of the affidavits of the bible that the sea obeys the voice of Jesus Christ. There is no power that's been known to obey except the power that saved Peter when he looked away. And this is the power that every hour watches over the mariner in the perilous hour.
No favors to buy, no patience to try, no no fault can be laid at at its feet. The sea is not sovereign. The sea is sovereign down here on land. That's why admiralty jurisdiction is important. When you go to sea, you're under a different jurisdiction according to god. You're not under the common law anymore. It's too dangerous out there, and there is no power that the oceans have been known to obey except the power that saved Peter when he looked away. But down here on land, the oceans do what they wanna do. They operate according to the laws of nature. That's what we need to know.
We do want to explain things, but let's not put logic first. I'm and I'm not saying you are. And, again, I I I speak forthrightly and with force, but I don't want to dishonor and demean men that are being respectful, and all of you, today are. And so I say this with all due respect and as an admonition to Christian brethren and sistren, as we say, put fact first, my friends, not logic.
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Thank you, Roger. I better go and thank you all for your comments. I got a luncheon engagement now. I gotta go. Gotta go. Kids will be back tomorrow. Love each and every one of you. I'm sure this could go on for hours, but we can't. So, we'll see you tomorrow. Brent, be careful out there, Benny. You, Roger. Bye. Alright. Gang, love you. See you tomorrow. Ciao. Blessings, Roger.
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Boy, he just doesn't take very long to check out, does he? Alright. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and Brent Allen Winters, the Friday edition. Catch us Saturday for the Sabado edition, 11AM central tomorrow. That would be, May 3, May '3 '20 '20 '5. Thanks for joining us. For more information on the topics discussed, go to the matrixdocs.com. You will find links to our radio streams, our archives, downloadables, exhibits, interviews. You will find it all right there. Thanks for joining us. Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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There we go. Here we go. Another stab at it per se on the Friday edition of the Radio Ranch. Of course, that includes a cohost guy named Brent Winters, Brent Allen Winters, who's been hanging around here and doing these programs with me for more years than either one of us would like to remember, I'm pretty sure. Long time. And, of course, it is the May 2 edition here. We have, Brent's producer, the lovely and charming Francine with us. Morning, Franny. Good morning. And, glad to have you as always. And as always, you have no idea what we're gonna get into today because it's all spontaneous. Best way to do any kind of a program. But before we get into any spontaneity, Paul get comes out, and we want to give all of our, I hate to use that phrase, all of our friends, a little recognition and credit for helping us extend our reach. And Paul's quite good at that, and he's about the only one that can keep up with them all day to day, quite frankly. So we'll see if we can get him out here again to do it. Good morning, mister Beaner.
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Good morning, Raj. It's good to know everything appears to be working even though I wasn't so sure half hour ago. But Okay. Alright. Here we go. Good. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago, Radio Soapbox and, WBOU join us for the first hour. Got it. And, we, of course, direct them to, grab either the link from Euro Folk Radio or Global Voice Radio and follow us into the second hour. EuroFolkRadio.com is brought to us by pastor Eli James and, Global Voice Radio Network is my pet project, hosted by Podholm, of course, which is where the archives are.
The Nat family of broadcast services brings us WVOU, homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live tv, and stream life.tube. And our website is thematrixstocks.com where you can find links to not only Eurofunk and Global Voice, but but but but but but you can also find the link to join us via free conference call. Mhmm. Yikes. Room for a thousand of you. We should, check with Eli and get his broadcast
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times, over there on the main sister on the the main the main stick, if you will, and, so we could promote his, his shows also. He's quite prolific in this area. He's not a big fan of our enemies. He has, distinct German heritage and background, and, well, that ought to tell you about all you need to know right there. So, anyway and the, our our our station here, our network, EuroFolk radio was started, initialized, if you will, by Paul English, our buddy, and, Eli crossing paths. And, they getting together and putting this whole thing up, which was the initial primary one of these networks that Paul has assembled. He's done four or five of them now. I think he's working on something else. He's a pretty diligent guy.
So, anyway, you can thank Eli for that. Good morning, Brent. I see the, my co cohost here just showed up. So let's see what, do you have anything to start off with here, Paul, this morning? I did wanted to ask you a question. I sent it to you anyway. Did Samuel happen to copy you on that video on methylene blue yesterday?
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He probably did.
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Well, you had all that problem last night, so you probably didn't even get to check. But when you do, you wanna watch that. It's a medical doctor, some big he just well, he's got a whole cadre of medical doctors surrounding him, and he's been using it and prescribing it to his, patient base for over five years. And in fact, what he does I thank Samuel for finding that. What he has done is overcome one of the main problems that is potential. Anyway, that's a potential problem with methylene blue because you never know the strength you're getting if you're doing a liquid. And because most people water it down, and what they've done is produced a lozinger where you can absolutely, guarantee the dose you're taking, and you put it up inside your, the upper part of your jaw there next to, you know, just a little little well, a little pinch between your cheek and gums there. Remember that, Paul?
And, you kinda do that and put it between your gums there, and you got a blue mouth. So so I don't know what to say. Anyway, he goes over all that. And, one of the things that is about a twenty, twenty five minute video, and he takes questions too, by the way, and and gives answers. And one of them I thought was particularly interesting was, he one of his patients, her mother had dementia. And they started giving her methylene blue, and all of a sudden, all these stories that the family had never heard before started coming out. And the whole family's gathered around her because they're hearing all this family history that she couldn't access before. So little things like that. It's pretty interesting.
Morning, Brent. Hi, Roger. How you doing? I sent it to Brent this morning. Said it might be good for your mom and dad. You ought to watch that, and and see. But, it's a really we've been discussing it around here for a couple of weeks now, pros and cons, And, that's a very good video. I did send it to you. So if you get a chance, you might wanna look at that. How you doing, man? Alright, Roger.
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Yeah. I I don't I didn't know anything about methane, but meth methaneth. What is it? Meth it's like here's my memory pad. Ethylene. Eth ethyl?
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Methyl. So it's methylene butyl. So I always think of ethyl, and I'll get it. It's the it's the first drug ever invented back in the eighteen seventies, and maybe according to even the UN, one of the most effective drugs ever ever brought to mankind. So go look at it. Do your own research. It's very interesting. And, what it seems to do not seems to, it's been proven to, is it goes in and in some of the Northern European branches of, Anglo Saxony, there's some kind of a problem with your mitochondria, which is the energy generator at the cell level. And this stuff evidently straightens out the mitochondria in that problem, and it gives you for some people, it gives you a real clean head. Hey. No brain fog.
And then it but a lot of people comment on that aspect. So no brain fog, and it gives you this energy that's not contaminated like caffeine is where you get the shakes or Red Bull, you know, all that stuff. So, anyway, very interesting. I'd suggest y'all look into it. It's it's pretty inexpensive, and it it, evidently does a lot of pretty good stuff. They use it in cancer treatments also. So, anyway, enough of that. I just wanted to put that in front. Thanks, Samuel, for finding and sending that, by the way.
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Well, you know, I just want people to be careful and know a little bit about stuff, but, you know, it may not be for everybody, but it Mhmm. Could could be critical for some people, and, just wanted to get it out there and get some direction along with it. But the one thing I did do, Rogers, I looked up the cost of his lozenges, and they are quite expensive, unfortunately.
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And for what well, like what's quite expensive?
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Well, you get four lozenges, which she called trochets, and you could split them into four, so that's sixteen doses. So even if you took the and that's that's $27 And so if if you took two doses a day even of this smaller dose, four milligrams, I think, you know, you'd go through that $27 in a few days. So that's Yeah. But it is made in powder form, and it is in caps, but just finding a source that, you know, you're you're getting that and not something else. You know? That's always I have
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I have a feeling with the notoriety of it as of late that there's gonna be, there's some probably some pretty original entrees into the marketplace from people. We'll see. But boy, it is mention in that you
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the the thing he did mention in there, Roger, to make sure you're getting the right stuff is that you get the assay with it, certification or whatever a term he used Yeah. To verify what the strength is. Well He said so.
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Well, unfortunately, I'm down here. I don't I can't it's difficult. You know? It's kind of pain in the rear end for me to get access to stuff from The States. Not too many of y'all are coming down to visit here lately. So I'm sure that's part of economics. And, but I I know ours comes from Columbia, and I'm sure it's watered down. But I just have to do the best I can with what I've got. But, anyway, go take a look at it. What's, let's see. I don't have that right up on my screen. I can probably get it, but there's a YouTube twenty minute or so interview that Samuel dug up and sent out with this talk we've been having about it lately. And I don't remember the name of it, but, we should probably somebody's sticking in the in the chat. I've been wondering, Roger, I've been wondering, Roger, if you can go to a compounding pharmacy and have it made up for you. I don't know. No. If, if so, you know, I I know the guy I get it from is a doctor here. And, he's got some friends that own a lab, and they make stuff like Epsom salts and all kinds of stuff, so they could probably do that. I might talk to him about that. I sent him a copy of this. But, anyway, I got the methylene blue. Well, yeah. Yes, Dave.
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I just wanna make one comment. What I was what I've learned, years ago about methylene blue, it wasn't a drug when it was invented. It was invented for the textile industry. I think they invented it to dye
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clothing, to dye textile. That's correct. And it's still used for that today. Right.
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So that's a hundred and fifty years later. Used it in medical, labs, and they used it for, you know, looking under microscopes. They'd smear the the the glass with it, you know, so it would everything would be crystal clear Yeah. Through that methylene blue. And then I'm not sure when it they started using it, you know, in the body. I I don't know much about that. But Well, I I just thought that that. This surgeon, this doctor,
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one of his cohorts in the group he's in or whatever, uses it when they do not bladder operations, but they do stuff like hernias and whatever around the bladder. And at the end of the operation, they'll take methylene blue and coat the bladder with it to make sure that he didn't nick the bladder with a scalpel or something and there's no leaks. He specifically used that example. So, yes, we've got all kinds of uses. But, you know, I don't wanna take up the whole show on it, but Brent wasn't here yet. I wanted to mention it was on my mind. But if you're inclined or you're skeptical or whatever, this is a good resource. Maybe somebody will put it in the chat or the, to our, radio, chitanga I got it. Or something.
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So I I got a lead in for Brent.
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Good.
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I was wondering when they castrated pigs, did they use blue coat on them? Because that was, what we used, and I bet you that was methylene blue. Because he says one of the uses they found it good for before penicillin was it was antifungal and active bacteria.
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Mhmm.
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No. We cattle and hogs, things were rather primitive, and we just, did it cold. We even castrated a stallion one time that way. That was quite an ordeal. And, we had this, we had this harness kind of an arrangement we threw over his back. He by the way, he was in Appaloosa. Oh. We threw it over his back. He was a big animal. We threw it over his back, and then he attached it. It was designed for that purpose. He attached the rope to the to the ankles, and then four men would pull the ropes at the same time, and then that would get him down. And he had to wait a hog tie him, and then you castrated him. And, hog the same way. And I know this sounds primitive, but, everybody did it this way.
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Wait. Hold on. Hold on. We lose Brent. Did he unplug something? I know he's moving around. I heard him washing his hands there. Yeah. There we There you go. Now we got him there. We had to do
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four 40 to 60 pounds. So you had to throw them by hand, and one man would hold them. Some men could do it by themselves. One man would hold them or usually a boy. That was me. And then, old man. Yeah. That was my job when I was old enough to throw hogs. And all you have to do to throw a hog is you can get on one side of him. You take your right if you're right handed, take your right hand and or left hand, I guess, really, and grab him on the flap of skin right in front of his hind leg, and you can just pick him up if you get a good jerk. If you're young and strong and and you can flop him over on his back, and you with with one hand, you can hold him, and he can't get away. You just tip him up a little bit so that his feet are loose, and you've got him. And you can hold him with one hand. Some men could do that with one hand. I've seen men do it and take their, bare heel and stick it in the hog's belly, and that pushes the testicles out. And then if your knife is sharp enough, I mean and then, of course, men would stand around while they're waiting for somebody to throw another one. They'd be sharpening their pocket knife. That was the surgical instrument that was mostly used.
And be as sharp as a razor, and if you with two swipes of the knife, you split the skin and then you split the membrane, then you gotta be really good to do that and not split too much. It just pops out, and then you can remove it. But usually with a hog, there'd be a lot of caked mud all over, the the scrotum. And so you'd pick up a corn cob, which was usually handy, and you scrape the mud off, and then you split the scrotum open. Wow. I know that all of you didn't need to hear that, but I'm old enough now. I don't care. One time I was one time I I mean, my earliest memories as a boy were, I was standing outside the woven wire fence, and my dad and my granddad were castrating hogs. And they'd take those mountain oysters, and they got them pulled out, and they just sling them behind them, and they'd hit that woven wire fence. I'm just a little kid, four or five years old. I remember this like it was yesterday. They'd hit that woven wire fence and just hang there.
And the dogs would come along and eat them till they get so full and sick. They'd upchuck and go back and eat more. Oh. That's, that's life on the farm, and I grew up that way. And we know when you grow up with that kind of thing going on constantly. Of course, there's a lot of there's a lot of death because there's a lot of butchered hogs, butchered cattle, and then you're going you're trying to stop the critters from eating your chickens, and and it it creates a different mindset. What it does, having been away from it at different times during my life, it creates, an earthy mindset of reality.
And that's what we're losing, by the way. And the story I just told, I did that on purpose. I thought, well, I'll just tell it. That's what we're missing, the reality of of the brutality of life. And it's not really that brutal. I mean, if you live around that kind of stuff where there's constant
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you know, you
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kill animals. What's that? It's brutal if you're the pig. Go ahead. Yeah.
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Yeah. But, animals and the attitude of men and, this all this is gone now, by the way. This is what makes a nation great is being in touch with, down to the ground and being in touch with reality. And if that mindset is long, we become effeminate, and we will be destroyed. And that's where we are. Yep. We're effeminate, and we will be destroyed. Yep. God won't tolerate it. We live in a cruel, twisted world. This is not nirvana. God has ordained it that way for his glory. I don't know all the details. I just know that that's why he does it. We live in this cruel, brutal world, and we if we aren't willing to get down and get dirty and live it, God will judge us.
He tells us that. It's not that we are here's what we end up doing. If we aren't down to the earth according to the terms of God about how to deal with the brutality of life, we will begin to brutalize each other. We will murder babies like we're doing. Yep. And and and spend more money on dog food and cat food than we spend upon, food for people. We will treat animals like we ought to be treating people, and we will treat people like God wants us to treat animal. Animals are not here. God did not give us animals so that they can have us to use. We're not here for their purposes.
They're here for our purposes. And God tells us specifically in the Bible how to treat them, how to not be cruel to them. You may have to kill them, but you don't you don't do anything that would make them suffer beyond what is necessary. People that live down to the ground know that. And the urbanized society does not know that, and they mistreat animals Well, do they. While they spend millions of dollars on vets. I I was talking to a friend. Rob Roger, did you wanna say something on that? Well, I once I've been watching, you know, some TV, like, there's some sports and stuff in the commercials.
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And one of the commercials is and they have both male and female as the protagonist here. Yeah. But, one one of them, the girl invites her her girlfriend over and says, well, I got a new boyfriend. His name's Peter. And, so the and she opens up the refrigerator to get her a drink or something. And the guy goes, what's that in the refrigerator? And it's good. It's all this dog food and stuff. And she goes, oh, man. And she makes some derogatory remark. And the next scene in the commercial is she's being shut the door on and gone. And the girl and her dog are going, we didn't like her anyway. You know? But that exact same thing, both sexes. What's that? People, yep, going, that far with their animals while, as you said, Fauci Yeah. Pig. Murder on two thirds. Those beagles and cut their voice larynx out so they couldn't yell and then puts a a thing over their head with these flesh eating something. I mean, what a Yeah.
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Oh. Yeah. He ought to be he ought to be,
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horse whipped. I hope so. I hope I see that. Maybe we might get to see that if we're lucky. You know, you and you, well,
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yeah, maybe worse than that. But the, whole idea, you got a dog, dogs and this is axiomatic in a world where people are down to the ground. Dogs don't live in houses, neither do cats. No. The Bible Bible tells us that. They're they're not clean animals. They're man's best friend. I get it. I understand all that. And cats and dogs are we loved our cats and dogs, but they weren't people, and they were our purposes. As Jesus Christ said of the Sabbath, the Sabbath is for man. Man is not for the Sabbath. We are not to bow to the to the animal kingdom, and that's what the evil empire and their stupidity wants us to do. That's why they make idols out of out of animals. You bow down and worship them. The Bible speaks of all this. Ancient history is replete with it. Present day the present day world is replete with it. And once you put animals from from men, you know, we are to love the Bible teaches us to love our neighbor and to dominate God's creation, The earth and all that then it is. And the Bible says that God puts the fear of animals on us. We are to animals what God is to us.
They are to be loyal to us. They're here for our purposes, and God tells us exactly how to treat them and how not to abuse them. But at the same time, we get that upside down. The balance of God's word with his creation is perfect as it relates to us. But, if you people know. I was talking to a friend, a cousin. He's 97 years old. And I said, don't you remember how it was at home? He hadn't lived there in years, but he said I said, did you ever know what dog food was when you were growing up? We all had lots of dogs. I never even heard of dog food, Roger. You'll have a grown man. I didn't know there was such thing as dog food. Our dogs got our scraps, and they all scraps. Anything left over, they got it. If an if a a a calf or a a hog died, they got that, a pig.
If, they went hunting every morning, they went hunting. Oh, yeah. And they'd come dragging stuff back and they'd eat that. And did you know our dogs lived to the maximum extent of what dogs can live? And now today, go to the Internet. Look it up. Dogs are dying. They're not living hardly half as long in some cases as as a dog ought to live. And they're feeding them all this food, and the people are making money off this dog food, and it's absolute trash. And cancer among dogs is through the roof. Cancer of every part of their bodies. That that's the niche that this company with this food's filling right there. Yeah.
Well, the the, the the dog is made to eat trash. That's why you don't eat dogs. Yeah. Yeah. They're made to eat trash. They're made to clean up the stuff that other animals won't eat as are hogs and buzzards and other critters like that. But that doesn't mean you eat them and that does not work. And that doesn't mean you you let them eat out of your plate. I've watched the people, get an ice cream cone, let their dog lick it between their licks. That's just downright stupid, and you can get hurt all bad doing that. It's not that you don't like your dog. Your dog is not human, And God wants and if you get to the point, I I say this, my testimony from reading history, if you get to the point that you treat animals, dogs, like people, you will treat people like animals.
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That's what I'm asking. Interesting saying you'd be like that king in Europe who made his dog king, the dog king.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I get it. I understand. Dogs are so, loyal. They're so lovable. They're so kind often. They're they're good companions, but God draws the line.
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You almost can't break that relationship. Of course, you can at some point, but a a poor old dog, he just loves you no matter what. You know? No. I I can name. I used to ask my great granddad, grandpa,
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name all the dogs you had all your life and tell me what their names were, and he remembered them all because you were so close to them. And I Yeah. A boy and his dog are inseparable, and we had dogs. I had a dog that I was inseparable from. That dog went went everywhere I went, but we didn't let that dog in the house. And that dog was happy. And that dog went hunting when it wanted to, and it ran. And it it lived life like a dog, like God designed a dog to live, and he hunted. And as I said, and ate what he wanted to eat. It was other than a he. It was a she. Her name was Frisk. We had border collies, two of them. Oh, those are good dogs. Yeah. They're good dogs. And we didn't have papers on them, but they and we didn't have any fancy training meth techniques, but they would do what we told them to do. All we had to do is tell them what to do, and they'd run and do it.
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I had a friend in Atlanta, lived up by Lake Lanier. He got him a border collie. Uh-huh. Lived in a two story house. Right? And he trained that dog. He'd leave the door in the basement open slightly at night. Uh-huh. And in the morning, the border collie would go out and get the paper and bring it in, turn around and shut the door, and bring the paper up to his bedside.
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Oh, I've seen him do that kind of stuff. We could stay at a frisk when we were moving animals and getting ready to ship hogs to the stock market, stockyards in Indianapolis. We'd holler we get them all up in the barnyard area. We had a and then we get them in a a closer area, and we had shoots. We'd divide them, but, yeah, to bring them in about 220 pound. If they're over two twenty, they'd dock you. If they're under two twenty, they'd dock you. So we had to be able to eyeball them. We didn't have a scale, but you can get real good at it. But then we'd say to Frisk, Frisk, go cut us out another 220 pounder. Well, she she'd do it. Now don't ask me how that works. That's what dogs will do for you.
And, they're inestimable of worth for working and as guard dogs. And just as dogs will yelp and bark if anything comes up around the curtilage. You need that too or somebody come up, steal gasoline out of your tank or your whatever. We that that's why we all had dogs. But we had mom's side of the family. They were the that was the they were from Kentucky. And so they they didn't have sheepdogs. They had hunting dogs. And coon hunting was the biggest thing in their lives. All my my granddad, my uncles, all of them, they're the most notorious coon hunters in 14 counties. But that's a different kind of an animal. See with a coon dog, you don't pet your hunting dogs. You pet your hunting dogs, you ruin them. You pet your dog, though, and you talk to them. You're hunting dog. You just you'd be nice to them. You encourage them, but you don't, pet them because you want them to hunt. And they're not gonna hunt, right, if, you get too friendly with them. That you learn how to take care of dogs. Well, so we had the the coon dogs on one side, and on dad's side, they had sheepdogs.
They were more into animals or livestock. You know? People in Kentucky in the old days, my granddad and him, that wasn't a culture of farming. That was a culture you were you were a tobacco grower, and that's different than a farmer. Yeah. And and they'd people would say, well, you're a farmer and and, they'd say, no. No. No. We're not farmers. We don't know squat about farming, but we're tobacco growers and we and then coon hunting was a big thing. Well, back in the sixties and up through the seventies, you could come home at night. You could make any a hundred and 60, a hundred, 2 hundred dollars hunting coons in one one evening or night hunting coons. It was, there was money in it is what I'm saying. That is true for Coon hunting is an irresistible thing for a lot of people is, you know, men like the rhythm of the hunt, and they don't want it's not the the fun is in the chase and the run as they say. Yeah. It's not in the kill. No. It's in the chase. It's the hunt. It's listening to the dogs. I was just with a friend. We had a military reunion, and he's from mountains in Virginia, a dying breed of mountain man. There just aren't very many left anymore, and the onslaught of the migration from New England is overtaking the South and the mountains, by the way.
And he go been going bear hunting every year since he was a kid. And he, well, he shot a big one last year. They got the black bear, but he had a bear run over him two years ago. He didn't see him coming, and next thing he knew, he was flattened. He thought he was dead when he turned around and looked and seen what was coming. Well, his buddy, you know how it is. You've seen him on the Internet. His buddy hunting with him, got a had his cell phone, got got a video of this bear running over Terry. I said, Terry, you gotta send me that. I'll I could put it up here, and we could play it for people. That'd be fun to watch. He's alright, though. That's and that's the fun of it. See? An enjoyable part is the rhythm of the hunt, and that's the way it is with coon hunters too. And then you're dealing with a a coon. There's not a a more wily animal in the American woods than a coon. You talk about intelligent.
Yes. Yeah. I mean, the fox is wily, but not like a coon. A coon make a fox look like he is, in the mentally retarded category. Uh-huh. Very smart. Very smart. Oh, yeah. I'm not talking about anything. I am talking about something important, and it's just a thin slice of it. And it's the urbanization of our country. Why is our country people say, well, we're whether we're under the judgment of God. Well, we are urbane. That's why. Yeah. I remember reading, that fellow that wrote Moby Dick. What was his name? Quite a long time. Herman Melville. Herman. Thank you, Roger. Herman Melville. You know, he liked to write. Well, he was a good writer if you ever read some of his writings. I'll tell you the best book he ever wrote. Moby Dick is good, but there's one better than that. And it wasn't discovered until many years after his death.
The name of it was Billy Budd. Billy Budd, b u d d. And, well, the name of the book is Billy Budd, comma, Sailor. If you it's a short story. It's not a novel like Moby Dick. It's a short story. If you haven't read it, you must read it. It is a must read. I read it for the first time my senior year. It was, was, well, I it would required reading in law school my senior year. Really? Yep. That one and a few others. But, Billy Budd, and of all the required reading, then we had to have a oral exam on it. But Herman Melville's father-in-law, the way I remember it, was chief justice of the of the, Massachusetts Supreme Court. You know, he's from New England. He was he'd been a whaler. You know? He'd a sailor on whaling ships back in the day.
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Herman Melville was the chief justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court. Did I hear you say that? His father his father-in-law.
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Oh, okay. I believe his father in law's name was his last name was Shaw, s h a w. He's one of them Yankees. Yeah. And and Shaw was a positivist, Roger, a positivist as a as a legal bill. He believed in positivism. Well, positivism was a a theory of law that, overtook, our our common law country and England back in the early and middle eighteen hundreds. And what it said was this, that, man is responsible to make positive law. What's positive law? That's law that is decreed in words specifically. For example, the Bible is statutes and commandments that and judgments. Well, all three of those are specifically stated in the Bible, and that's God's positive law.
And then on the other side of positive law, well, if you got, for example, the uniform code of military justice, that's positive law. The code of Justinian in its various forms around the world, the code of Bismarck, the canon laws of the church of Rome, the code Napoleon, the old French code, all of those are are positive law because they are specific positive statements of what the law is, and they're not to be tampered with not to be tampered with. God said don't tamper with my law. Do not add to it. Do not take away from it. He says it over and over and over. Well, that's God speaking. I'm good with that. No. I don't wanna tamper with what the Bible said. Jesus Christ said every jot and every tittle, every jot that's the smallest of the Hebrew letters called a yod, every tittle, that's a serif on the end of a number of the Hebrew letters that will change it from one one letter to another. He said, don't touch it. It's per perfect. The word of God, as the Bible tells us, is perfected.
And Jesus Christ, the author of the word of God, the law of God says don't touch it. Okay. I got it. But then when men turn around and say, no. No. The code of Justinian is positive. Law is perfect. Don't touch it. And that's what they say. By the strongest of custom in every country in the world, except the common law of countries, no judge is to tamper. No judge is to even try to interpret the code using precedent. Precedent is uniquely a unique feature of our common law tradition, And it has to do with separation of powers, courts and our common law tradition follow the precedents of the courts that have gone before them and have ruled on like subjects with like facts.
That's called the coequal but separate branches of government. Courts do what the courts do. The executive does what the the executive does. The legislature does what the exec, legislature does, and none of those three branches has the power to trump any of the other two. The Supreme Court of the United States in our common law country is not final. That is not true in the rest of the world. They're positivist. But in our country, nobody's final. We are in a perpetual never ending Mexican standoff in the three branches of government. And that's what we're we're seeing in the news now. Nobody tells us what the truth is about our common law tradition because all the legal beagles and the highfalutin lawyers on the Supreme Court don't have a clue what it is. Just ask them if you ask them. They come up. The answers would be all over the lot. And I'm not There's there's one of them up there that doesn't even know what a woman is for God's sake. Since she is one.
Yeah. And I don't say that to say that I'm smarter than they are or smarter than anybody else. It's just a matter of what you know. Some people know one thing, some people know another. But to know the difference between the law of the land and the law of the city or common law and the urbane law of the city as Herman Melville said, Herman Melville said that's the problem. And he was speaking out against his father-in-law. He wrote the short story Billy Budd to speak out against his father-in-law against positivism. And what Melville then later said that it, it all started in the Garden of Eden and the serpent.
The reptile in the garden of Eden. He said the best word to describe him, said Herman Melville, is urbane. He was in extreme urbane. He was not down to the ground anymore. He was a scholastic. He liked to read things like Saint Thomas Aquinas. Of course, Aquinas wasn't born yet, but that's the kind of baloney you get into. Logic. Logic becomes foremost and where logic becomes foremost, fact and testimony and truth of fact has a way of receding from consideration. And that's what's happened to us. We think we're pretty smart. You hear somebody talk about reason and logic and how and critical thinking and all that kind of horse manure run for your life. You don't have to tell you somebody, you don't have to tell.
Nobody has to teach you about critical thinking. That's what you do. Why? Cause you're a, you're of Adam's race. Horses born to run, birds born to fly, beasts to prey are born to ferocity, hounds are born to hunt, and men are born to think. They will think. You can't stop them from thinking. Don't worry about that. What you need to if somebody's gonna teach you logic, they're gonna skew you. That's what they're gonna do, and that's what they do in the universities. Don't worry about that. What you need to worry about is fact, and that's what our common law tradition is about is fact. The law of the city, the positivist, that's all about logic. Mhmm. Fact doesn't really matter to them. They have lawsuits. We don't have lawsuits. We say we do. We don't. We have fact suits. We don't ask the jury what the law is. We we ask them what the facts are. Because once you got the facts, everything else falls in place. The facts, the proper facts, the true facts are the basis of any logic and critical thinking you might do. And if you got the false the wrong fact upon which to base your logic, then you're gonna reach a long a wrong conclusion.
Well, that's that's the way Melville was. He he was again, he was just on the opposite end of things. Who who's ever heard of chief justice Shaw? Well, we've heard of Herman Melville and he was right headed about it. Or Billy Buds about a boy that was hung from the yard arm. His name was Billy Bud because of positivism. The military code. People talk about admiralty law. It's unforgiving. Yeah. It's martial law. And this is an example right here. Yeah. This is it. It paints with a broad brush. Example. Alright. Wait. Maybe I don't know what you're talking about, Roger. Oh, Billy Budd. Oh, Billy Budd. Well, let's look at Well, at least he had a trial. Most admiral peep people don't have a trial. They take down the skull and cross the country's flag they're flying and run up the skull and crossbones as they're, ramming your ship. Well, but the process. Well, he might've hurt, but see the captain Viri in that story, he was the captain of the British warship, and he didn't, he was a positivist. And he said, I don't care what what Billy Budd's problem is.
He crossed the line, but he crossed the line for this reason. Mister ship captain, well, it doesn't make any difference. Cross the line, draw the line, drop the hammer, and we're going to hang him. See that? That's the attitude. Yeah. In our common law tradition, it's not that way. Why? Well, in the law of the city tradition, the civil canon laws of Rome, as we call them today all over the world, the only thing that matters is the that you do what the code says. There are no trials. There are no trials in France or South America. No. What are there? Inquisitions.
The fundamental of the law of the city is inquisitorial, Inquisitions. They don't care if there is no cross examination. There are opportunity for such thing. There is no jury. No. No. No. In our country, we have an adversarial tradition. Why? Because it's a common law tradition. So we go into court, have court battles. That's what we do. We fight, and we have due process, and we fight according to the rule of the, the the Queensbury rules. If you were in a boxing match, they say, okay. You can fight, but no sucker punching, no no, rabbit punches, no kicking in the groin, no biting, no scratching, no pulling hair. Okay. Got it, boys? Well, that's called fighting according to the rules. So you then you can say, if people fight according to rules, may the best man win. You can't say that. That's a common law saying. You can't say that if it's an inquisition. If there's if it's positive law, legislate legislation, the code of Justinian, that paints legislatures paint with a broad brush.
Well, Well, we're not interested in your silly little problem. You broke the law, shut up, and pay the fine. Yeah. You know, that's kinda thing. I was on the freeway. In a common law country, we're a little more, loose about it, but I remembered driving through LA One time. Man, I was balling the jack. I had the pedal to the metal and that was and if you've ever been on, that, what is it? That one zero one goes right through Downtown Los Angeles. It just wanders, kind of long, lazy curves and up and down just a little bit. It's just fun to to, and it's it it was late one night, and I was doing that. And I looked to my left, and here's a state trooper beside me looking over at me. I must have been going 80 or 90. And he had a piece of cardboard, and he held it up. But on the piece of cardboard, it said slow down.
And I I gave him I gave him the old thumbs up, and he zoomed away. Yeah. He wouldn't have to arrest anybody. That was, by the way He must have a good dinner that night. That was forty years ago. Well, yeah, who knows what the policy is? But, you know, I won't say who said it, don't like him that much, but he said, you know, in Europe speed limits are speed limits because they're pos see, they have a positivist culture, Law of the city, positivist, speed limits or speed limits. In America, we're in a common law country, and speed limits are just suggestions. Or more than that, speed limits are challenges.
How can I get by with five more miles per hour? You know? Alright. Like, little trucker says, a double nickel, I'll take five, and they'll give me five so I can if it's 60, I'll run 70. You know? And I'm not saying do that. I'm just making the point. In America, we do have a different attitude. You know, in England, if you're not in the queue, you get to feeling pretty self conscious. They're a little less common law sensitive than we are now, unfortunately, for them. But we we still have that attitude. Let's not lose it, friends. That doesn't mean be lawless. That means understand your common law tradition, and it will it will pervade your mind. It will bubble in your brain. It will boil in your blood. And pretty soon, you'll be thinking the way God wants you to think.
But it catches you more than you catch it. There you go. Like you, Roger. Hey, Brad.
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Well, the other day, Bob, Bob's got something to say. We always wanna hear what he's got to say. Bob, what what's on your mind? Good morning.
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You made me laugh, Brett. I've told this story before, I think even here, but you've I'm sure you've run across the little robots to sit on the side of the road and tell you how fast you're going and, you know, in digital speed and speed limits x, and you're doing y. And if you get within five miles over, you know, it just flashes. And then within 10 miles over, it flashes, and it has some row lights around the edge. You know? They start going off. And Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told my friends. I said, you know, that's just the challenge. If I go 15 miles an hour, I wanna see it start a siren. If I go 20, I wanna see it jump up and down. If I go 40 over, I wanna see I wanna see steam coming out. You know? It's a challenge. It's Yeah. And it chasing you. Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Anyway, I just thought that was funny when you said, yeah. It's a it's a challenge. That's exactly right. How what can I get by with here? There you go. Human nature.
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Well, I shave. Just let me just shave off a little bit more. Brent, you got any comment on that?
[00:45:23] Unknown:
On what, Roger? On what Bob just said. Oh, yeah. You know, out in the countryside, if you're out in the middle of the cornfield kind of country and the corn's picked, and you're driving down the gravel road going forty, fifty mile an hour, which is too fast on horse gravel, by the way. That's like driving on marbles, but you're driving down the road. And you can see them half a mile to a mile in both directions and straight ahead. Is there any reason to stop? No. You're you're keep on tooling right on through. I read a piece by Gershomme Machen one time. Well, actually, it was his testimony before the, Congress of the United States.
And Gershomme Machen was professor of New Testament language and literature at Princeton University, very well known man back in that part of the world at one time. And, he's the one, by the way, that challenged Pearl Buck for Buck, and that's what got him in trouble. But lost his lost his job. He was one of the foremost students of New Testament Greek in the world at that time. And they threw him out over that. But he testified before Congress, and his testimony was well thought out. And he, what he talked about was the dehumanization of man. He said, I'm ticked. He was from an old southern family down in Virginia, by the way.
And, he said, I used to walk from my house across the road out into this wooded area. And he said, I go down this is back in the nineteen thirties. He said, I go down there now and I press a button. I gotta stand there and wait. No cars have been coming along that road for several minutes. But I gotta stand there and wait until the the electronic device or whatever it was, the stoplight says I can go. That's what urban society does to you. Mhmm. It it forces you to conform when there's no need to. Very good analogy. Yeah. It's just that simple. And when you're in town, you're in a city, you live according to that rhythm. It's like being in prison, friends. If you're in prison and you're in one room, you're gonna have to sit in that room until the door automatically unlocks.
It's It's on a timer, and then you can move. And then if if you don't get moved quick enough, they'd wanna go to another room or go back to where your bunk is or whatever. You sit there for another fifteen minutes or if the timer's set different for half an hour. That's the kind of world we're getting to. There's no place you can go just like Orson's or who was it wrote that book nineteen eighty four?
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George Orwell.
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Yeah. You know, there's no about the guy that gets in his house and crawls in the corner because he couldn't get to a place where a camera wasn't watching him. Yeah. And and in the end of the book, all that it came down to was a hobnailed boot on a man's face, and that's what the world is doing. Forever.
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Forever.
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So here's what we need to do. Here's what we need to do, friends. I'll give real quickly. If you don't know the laws of nature and the laws of nature is god let me put it this way. If it isn't the passion of your of your life to know those things, it's gonna get that way. But not for you. But if you have a passion to know the laws of nature, our common law tradition, and the laws of nature is god, the bible, then it won't get that way for you. Bible promises. Back to you, Roger.
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Very interesting I wanted to ask you if I could deviate along these lines here for a minute about current events and what you've been able to pick up over, well, Trump arrested these two state judges, this week, last week, whatever it was. Uh-huh. The, the the coming the coming standoff between the, judiciary and the executive, it appears. And, some of these things that are happening, they're very contemporary, and important. And,
[00:49:12] Unknown:
I I wanted to get your read on some well, first of all, make sure you'd heard about them because I know how you are. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I couldn't help but hear about them, but I went to a meeting last night and asked me to say a few words. And I talked about the things we're talking about here, and I got a good reception. There are about a dozen adults there. It was a meeting in someone's home. I got a real positive, but they want to talk about, the the, they wanted to talk about the the nationwide injunctions. Yes. And that has to do with the judiciary. And here's the deal.
DJ Trump is up against he's the executive branch. Everything in our in the executive branch is under his control, the Department of Justice, all the alphabet soup bureaucracies. But there are three there are two other branches of government that are not under his control. Then all three of those branches, the executive, the legislative, and and the judicial are direct direct creations of the militia of the several states of The United States through that instrument called the constitution of The United States. The constitution of our constitution of The United States is a brief of common law government. It creates three branches of government directly.
The executive branch, the presidency, the judicial the legislative branch, the United States Congress, and the Supreme Court of the United States. It only creates one court, the Supreme Court of the United States. And because that is the creation of the militiamen, we, the people, that means the militiamen of the several states, Because those three branches are their creation, none of those three branches have any power to trump or do away with the other or alter the other in any way. They are on those three branches of government or a three way Mexican standoff. DJ Trump is politically wise, and this is what was intended by the militiaman who ratified our constitution.
They intended that, the president of The United States who has boku amounts of power, raw force and violence. The army, the navy, the air force, the marines, and all the bureaucrats soup bureaucrats that pack heat. He's got all that. FBI, CIA, whatever. He's got that, and he can do what he wants. Yeah. That's what he thinks is constitutional. Remember, he took an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States. He didn't take an oath to defend it as some other Gallut understands it. He took an oath to defend it as he understands it. That's the strength of our common law tradition. Every man, every man is responsible before god is maker to do what is lawful regardless of what anybody else in government says. I mean, if you really believe in your heart of hearts that this is a this particular whatever particular problem you got or disagreement you have with the government, you're right and they're wrong. Well, you have channels. You can test that. But it may come down to it may come down to you saying, I don't care what you do. I'm not doing that anymore. It depends upon how what the issue is. Well, DJ Trump has a responsibility to support the constitution.
Now who's dumb enough to say, oh, there are a lot of people, I suppose, that the Supreme Court of the United States has more wisdom than any other person in America.
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No? I think it's about the parent. They probably have less at this point. Well, can I use the example I used earlier when a black female in front of congress can't answer a question as to what a woman is? Yeah. You you've kind of gone off the rails.
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Right. It's worse. Excuse me, Roger. It gets worse. The people sitting on the benches can't be look look between their legs and tell what they are. Their own self. That's the world we're increasing live live we're increasingly live in. Went to Walmart two nights ago. And, of course, I'm in Tornado Alley around here and and, in Walmart, and it was getting late. And and, I get not many people there. And as I was coming out, I saw a young fella, and I asked him a question. I could tell he had an accent. I said, where are you from? He said, Luxembourg. Now this is out in Flyover America. Yeah. Here's this kid from Luxembourg.
I said, what in the Sam Hill are you doing here? Another kid walks up. I said, where are you from? He said, Spain. Another kid walks up. Oh, about 20 years old. I said, where are you from? He said, England. I said, okay. I said, what are you guys doing here? I mean, of all places, I could see you being in Los Angeles or Vista and Boston or New York, but out here in the hinterlands. Oh, and I've come to find out they were all from well heeled rich families, rich boys. They were tennis players, and they've been turned. They decided they just take money and run around all over America and look around. And I said, well, I said to one of them, what's your name? The one from Luxembourg.
He said my my first name is Emmanuel. I said, well, you know what that means, don't you? He said, oh, yeah. But he said, that's taboo. We don't talk about that. I said, wait a minute. You don't talk about the meaning of your name? Why not? Because it's a taboo subject. I said, well yeah. I said, so, the word Emmanuel, which means god with us, it's a Hebrew, three Hebrew words, god with us. The the name of g it's a name of Jesus Christ. I said, you can't talk about Jesus Christ in your country. Of course not. I said, well, look, dude. You're in America.
We talk about whatever we wanna talk about here. And it's time that you woke up to reality. When you go home, you better start acting that way too. I said, you got a girlfriend? He said, no. I said, you're not queer, are you? He said, he laughed. He said, no. He said, but he is, pointing to the guy from Spain. I said, what are you talking about? He said, well, he's a he didn't say switch hitter. He said he's bisexual. I said, you are a kid, man. Aren't you, son? I I said, you really are? He said, yeah. I said, have you lost your marbles? I mean, what could be enjoyable about doing the kind of things you apparently do with other men?
I don't know why, Roger. Sometimes I just feel comfortable saying things, and I think they thought I was an entertaining old man. You know? So I I just said it. And I then I said, well, they said, well, we don't talk about that here, and I am. And I said, no. You're you're nothing. Do you have any men left in Europe at all? Any men? You guys got any gonads? Or you just, you're less than women. Women have convictions and instincts convictions. You don't even have that. Who's taking care of of your country? Who's taking care of your sisters and your mother? You fellas acting like that? You're sick. I said, you guys are sickos. And they laughed. They said, well, what they wanted to hear what else I had to say. I laid some other things on them. And then, of course, they said, get out either go to the back of the building at Walmart or you gotta leave right now. We're shutting the store down. There's a tornado coming.
I don't know whether tornado came or not, but I ended up tornado may have been you. Yeah. I mean but and I'm just an old guy saying these things. But listen. Listen. The Bible says, if this kind of thing's going on, like what those boys are they're used to, I don't call I don't even know if they're boys. But, anyway, if that's the kind of thing that's going on, then and you I'm talking to you, whoever listening. You don't say something about it. The bible, you book of Ezekiel says that when the judgment falls on them, it'll fall on you too. Yep. Watch it on the wall. But if you say something, when the judgment falls on them, it won't fall on you. It's the drive
[00:57:10] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Go ahead. The driver of this program. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt. That's alright, Roger. The
[00:57:15] Unknown:
the Bible said or god said to Jeremiah in the first chapter, he said, I'm gonna send you to my people, and I want you to to tell them the truth. And he was a young young fellow, and he said, well, I can't do that. He said, they'll try to kill me. And god said, yeah. That's what they're gonna try to do. They won't listen to anything you say. They will make your life miserable, and then they will try to kill you. Well, then why you want me to do it? That's none of your business. Just go do it. But it is true. It is true when you do that, when you tell the truth to people, god's using you to condemn them. If they don't respond, he's he'll use that as evidence to condemn them and justify make him look just before the rest of his creatures when he hurls them into hell. That's what the Bible says.
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You're not gonna miss the second hour. That's right. Yeah. And those mountain oysters. Yeah. Yum. By the way, while we got a lull here just a second, how's the, how's Paul's show yesterday? I keep looking for his logo to pop up here. I hadn't seen this week. He's got it in his presentation. Yeah. It was good fun. What'd y'all do? Do you remember?
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Oh, it was great fun. It it was a potpourri. It was it was a great show. You really need to catch it.
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Okay. Good deal. Hopefully, he'll drop by and visit us again here sometime soon. Brent, so sorry. I'll take you back off pause there. Sorry to put you back there on the back burner for a minute, but these house cleaning things must be addressed. You know?
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Uh-huh. Oh, well, I've been talking enough. Maybe I ought to quit for a while. But Well, why don't we open up the,
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up and see if the audience got any questions or comments or they got any tips on gelding other types of animals or, you know, any of that stuff that might come up. You never know with this audience. You know? Good lord. Do we got some farmers? Michael's a farmer? You know, you never know who these people. This is a you know, don't do things like try and yell the bear or a moose. Those aren't, you know, probably good, good things. We were talking at lunch on Tuesday about we got some folks that have been in Alaska and talking about trying to outrun a moose.
You know, bears are incredibly fast. They're they're big. You can't you can't believe how fast they are. And, but moose moose can be real dangerous, especially during the rutting season. And I say that those grizzlies can run, Brent and audience, because when I did live up there, one of the trips we took one summer was up to, what you would probably know as Mount McKinley. It's been renamed the, Dingbat Biden and his folks had taken that away. I believe that's been replaced. The original name of the mountain for the Indians is Denali. And Denali translates to weather maker because that tall peak up there controls weather in many instances.
Now we went up there in the sixties for a week, I guess, and we drive into the closest you can get to the mountain. Have you ever been up there, Brent? You didn't get up that way. Oh, no. I yeah. I've been up there. I went close to yeah. Right now at the base of the mountain in the summertime, then it was Right. Well, the closest you can get is about 25 miles, and the road stops at a lake called Wanderer Lake. Yeah. And, it is crystal clear. Just beautiful. And, anyway, as we're going through the past to get to the back there to Wander Lake, because that was our destination, it's summer and the bears are born. They're hibernation with and they have their cubs.
So you drive in that old road, and this is what? Sixty years ago, something like that. And, man, we had video of a grizzly running right beside our car at 25 miles an hour. Okay? Uh-huh. Well, it's probably really a eight millimeter, wasn't it? Oh, yes. It's an old celluloid stuff. It wasn't video, obviously. Now what was interesting you'll like this story, Brent, as long as we're telling stories. We got up there and whatnot. Our we were the only car. We had an old green Plymouth station wagon, all trailer around, you know? And so we're right there. We're the only ones in the parking lot, end of the road, nobody else around.
And all of a sudden, this big fancy, what do they call those ones over in Africa they use? The, Land Rover comes pulling up there and these guys get out and they're taking out bags and tripods and and and all kinds of stuff. And and we didn't talk to them too much, you know, if I remember. But, anyway, they got all that. We were watching them, obviously. I was curious. And, they get all that stuff, and they hike all the way around Wander Lake there to the other side. And they set up and, and what they were doing was taking the picture of this loons nest that was over there.
Loons are fascinating birds, and they're very beautiful. And they've got that almost chilling call. You know? And, so we saw the nest and all that even though it was across the lake. And about a month or so later, it showed that picture showed up on the cover of national geographic.
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Oh, yeah. Well, well, they tell me I was talking to
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go ahead. Yeah. Who's the hello there?
[01:04:43] Unknown:
My name is Kyle. I'm new here. I just wanna say that this has been my favorite episode so far. And I I do have just a quick couple questions whenever you get a sec. Well, we got a sec right now. We wanna know more about what you're did you say it was Kyle, k y l e? Yep.
[01:05:01] Unknown:
Where where are you? What part of the country, and how'd you find us? You say you're kinda knew you've been lurking.
[01:05:07] Unknown:
Yep. I've been lurking. I'm in Michigan, currently in the concrete jungle down near Detroit. Mhmm. And I've been studying this information for a little over a year now. I was introduced to it somewhat across that video by Presley or the the younger Oh, yeah. Gentleman that made it. Uh-huh. And just putting that information and the information that I've heard here and everything that I've read, it's it's it's really coming together for me. So I have, my affidavit notarized and my cover letter. Yes. But I was just wondering, I already have a passport, but I do not have a passport ID. So should I wait to apply for my passport ID until my Oh, do you do you mean a passport card?
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Because your passport is an ID. Okay. That's alright. Yeah. Nomenclature can be confusing. Know that. Okay. Right? For sure. I know the card, it comes with three stars, but you can get one star Well, don't. Even up to five stars? Well, it can come with more stars than are in the heavens, I guess. I wouldn't pay too much attention to that right now. I'd concentrate on getting that paperwork, first of all, into mister Rubio, who, by the way, it seems Trump is turning into a pretty damn good secretary of state from a weasel little sinister. And then after that, you can apply for and just purchase a passport card.
And that will you'll your other passport will still be valid. Are are you planning on doing any international traveling? I'm not opposed to anything. I have a very open mind. Okay. Well, I'm just saying, if you're gonna do that or have that's why you need the passport book. The card for $30 will suffice for everything that you'll need that sounds like you're gonna need. And, it will have your affidavit attached to it And superseding and overlaying the previous application without one, I think you'll be in pretty good shape. Okay?
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Okay. Wonderful.
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Thank you so much for that. Oh, you're you're welcome. Anything else while we got you?
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Nope. Nope. I'm just gonna continue listening. I really appreciate you guys, and I wanna say thank you.
[01:07:17] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it's addicting information because you can't get it anywhere else in the world to my knowledge. But with the I wanted to use you for a second if I could. Didn't say abuse you. I said use you. Absolutely. And it's for other people that are new. And and I'm trying to hammer you know, you don't make this change overnight. Most people. Some people can make it faster than others, but most people, because you're going in, you gotta learn all this stuff you more than likely never been exposed to before. And then you gotta go figure that all out and incorporate it into you what you've always had as your personal and your worldview, and then have that change that. And that does not happen overnight, unfortunately. K? But good good luck. I just wanted to verify for the other folks, who are some in the same situation that just takes a little time. Stick with it. Okay? It'll come. What what will happen, you have a moment.
You know? And all of a sudden, it it may just come out of left field and go boom, and the light bulb all goes on. That happens to a lot of people. For me, and that's why I got my affidavit memorized yesterday. I'm not going to bed. I'm calling today. Well, good. Well, nice to meet you. Come back and visit us. Unless you have questions as you go further, let us know. Oh, that Yeah. We are here. We're here for you. You and everybody else like you.
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Yes. Oh, yeah. I was wondering if I if you had anybody in Michigan that I could meet with and just Well, what in person. You're
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outside of the big city. We got a number of folks in Michigan, and some are okay. Yeah. I got that. I got a very good friend down here from Detroit. Talks about it incessantly. And but, yes. We got a number of other folks, including Devin. I'm not sure where they all are in relation to you. But, hey, get this. Brent here does these, little continuing education things with one of your sheriffs. Sheriff Darley from, Barrow County. Is it Brent? Barrow County, Michigan? Barrow County. Barrow County, Michigan. You got a a real live constitutional sheriff up there.
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Okay then. What was that gentleman's name?
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Should Brent, do you can tell him
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Let's say Yeah. D a r, Leaf, l e a f, Barrie County. Darleaf.
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We've had him on the show one time. I'd love to have him back. And, so we've got others. The guy that wrote the national citizenship handbook, Devin, lives up there. We've got several other folks, but they're not here totally consistently. But, yes, we do have some others. I can't point you in one direction right now, but we can find you somebody. But Paul probably can. That's right. Yeah. With Devin. Okay? So come back, visit us, and, keep learning, keep growing, keep asking questions. Remember, you're the boss. The power is yours.
And if you're about to take it back, learn how to defend it, how to tell others about it so you can strengthen your own, and, enjoy your new life.
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Yes, sir.
[01:10:34] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks for making it possible. Yep. Great. Well, it's my pleasure. Could you strengthen me, all of you folks? The only way as John Benson used to tell us, Brent will echo this, I'm sure. The only way I can protect my liberty is to help you protect yours. And most people don't even know what it is, how they lost it, or anything about it. So now it's an education process. We're not in the position we're in from a lack of people filing paperwork. We're in the position we're in because of fraud, trickery, treachery, and, us being somewhat ignorant.
But how could we have figured out what these guys were doing over the last hundred or so years to set this up and make it operable? I mean, I've found just a few people in history, Supreme Court Justice John Harlan, the great dissenter, William t McFadden, A few people along the way recognized what they were doing even though we didn't have the end game quite yet. But, so anyway, welcome. Love to have more people being added. We've had several new people lately, and it's, well, it's quite fantastic, actually, because we get to drag out all the old material. And the the folks that always hang around here, they they get exposed to it again. And, yeah, I don't think you can get exposed to these basics enough, quite frankly. I'm still learning at my stage. Yeah.
Yep. And, as my friend here, Brent Winter, said many years ago on this program, which is so accurate, said, when you learn the basics, anything's easy. Very true. Roger. Yes. There's Larry right there. Welcome. Yeah, Larry.
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Yeah. This is directed toward Brent. I thought he'd be glad to know. I read this to you the other day. The, Brent, the, house passed legislation Wednesday, mostly along party lines. This is a article out of the AP from April 9 along party lines that limits the authority of federal district judges to issue nationwide orders as Republicans react to several court rulings against the Trump administration. The pace of nationwide injunctions has certainly increased during Donald Trump's presidency. Republicans are arguing that the increase is the result of activist liberal judges.
Democrats counter that the courts are simply striking down illegal executive orders and actions from the Trump administration. The bill passed by a vote of two nineteen to two thirteen. It limits the scope of injunctive relief ordered by a district judge to those parties before the court. And that's exactly what Brent was talking about couple of weeks ago that the court, and a federal district court only has jurisdiction over the parties that are before him. So it says that this, bill, it it limits the scope of injunctive injunctive relief ordered by a district judge to those parties before the court rather than applying the relief nationally.
It then says and this is the unfortunate thing, but the bill is unlikely to advance through the Senate where at least some Democratic support would be needed.
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I think that's about it. Probably thanks to those three goofballs, the one that's senile, McCals McCursky, whatever her name is from, Alaska and one other one, one of those other wackos up there that have gone over to the Democrat side to stifle Trump's agenda. Brent, have you been able to watch any of the I think I've seen it twice now where they take the cabinet meetings and open them up to the world. Have you seen either one of those? I I watched a little bit of one the other night or maybe last night. Yeah. Right. Of course, those things are calculated to Of course.
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To to politic, but I expect that. That's what politics is. Good campaigning is good governing, and good governing is good campaigning. And if, you have the ability to tell people what you're doing, you should tell them if you're in office. But getting back to this, congress passed if congress passes this legislation, that doesn't bind the Supreme Court at all. Not at all. Again, keep in mind, the the branches of government and our common law tradition are coequal. A congress can pass all the legislation at once. The courts are bound by their oath, each one of them, their oath, to support and defend the constitution.
Congress goes crazy too. Presidents go crazy. Everybody goes crazy. That's why we don't give ultimate power to anybody. Mhmm. And if if they pass the legislation, the courts may continue to do these lawless things. But in their heart of hearts, they think they're right. I'd I'd tell you they're wrong. Yeah. Can you imagine a judge saying to have a case before him? He got the parties before the court in a divorce case, and and, he's he gives a protective order to the man or the woman against the other one. And then he said, by the way, this protective order applies to everybody within the state of whatever, Montana. That ain't gonna happen. Why? Because it's contrary to our common law tradition. It makes every judge a legislature a legislature who can say something and it becomes the law for everybody.
Well, that's not what courts do. Now, Congress, when they pass legislation, as we were saying a while ago, that's positive law. That's a broad brush and all and in all of the world, such legislation is final. The courts are not allowed to tamper with it, to interpret it, to strike it down. No. No. The legislator, whether it be one man, a dictator, or a congress, or a a legislature, that is an expression of the will of government, and that is final. In our common law tradition, no. No. We, the congress can pass legislation. The courts can, say we're not gonna apply it or we think it's wrong or it's wrong in this particular application and refuse to do so in the to the parties then before the court in that case.
A court's power and jurisdiction are limited to the parties then before the court in that case. But that's not true of congress. Their power is just to pass legislation, but they can't enforce it. They don't they aren't the aren't the executive branch, and they are not the judicial branch or, I mean, the, yeah, the judicial branch. So they just paint with a broad brush. Probably the most dangerous thing in our government is legislation
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and the legislative branch. They just changed the system. They just changed the system where they take that legislation, detour it over to the administrative agency. And up until their Chevron deference here recently, they could do whatever they wanted with it because the supreme court told them, well, you're the experts. You you can do whatever you want. Yeah. Well, that goodness. We've turned the page on that crap.
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That gives the they were given legislative power to the executive branch, the bureaucrats, which in this case would have meant the president of The United States. Everything that happens in the bureaucracies, the president of The United States have power to stop it, including tax collection. That's all under he he didn't wanna say that because if something happens that makes people mad, he he said, well, it's those darn IRS agents. No. No. They work for you, buddy. What's that darn US Attorney? No. No. He works for you too, and you have absolute authority over him. Don't let him kid you. But that's the the game of politics, the smoke and mirrors, who's in charge, all that. Just keep in mind, three branches of government, and none of every one of them has taken a note to support and defend the constitution of of The United States as they understand it, not as somebody else understands it. And that means that anybody in government, many of those three branches of government, if he believes in his heart of hearts that what is happening is unconstitutional, he has a do in another branch, the president or or the Supreme Court or whatever other branch it is of those three.
He has an affirmative duty to say so and not comply. And if he's not doing that, he's not doing his job, and he's violating his own. Now you may not agree with him, but that's what keeps government in stitches and neutralized neutralized so they won't bother us. That's the whole idea of common law government to keep government fighting among themselves so they'll leave us alone. Evidently, so to my error. I believe that's the one is, is having dementia problems and is like wandering around the Supreme Court building up there. Well, if she go if if she go home and bake cookies for her grandchildren,
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she might not have that problem. Well, that very true. That's my point. Your role you leave your role long enough, you will become insane, man or woman. Oh. That's what we will down to. God made us. Well, my point was that and that's a very good accurate, what you're saying. My point was gonna be that Trump may have another shot at getting a decent judiciary in there, and maybe we'll stop taking advice like the ones that fed him Kavanaugh and Amy Yeah. Conan, the barbarian, Barrett, and all these other people that have become so disappointment oriented. And tell me and don't tell me she's taking care of those 10 children she has. Well, no. She's at the core. She's
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she's she's a bad mother. Yeah. She's abandoned her family for her career. And that's the example she's setting for other people. Leave your role. Go do what you wanna do. Uh-huh. And listen. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. No. We
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we can keep tabs on her, though, Brent, because one of our new students is her neighbor.
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Yeah. Yeah. Keep tabs on her. I don't know if that'd do any good. You know? If she'll leave if she'll abandon her children and deny the laws of nature, what would she do to get
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authority to make decisions on for everybody else? Here here, Brent. Here's our secret spy right here. Oh, okay. Yes, Julie?
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Hi, Roger. Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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So regarding, what Brent said about ACB, he's a % correct on that, but I wanted you to also know that there's an individual by the name of Shay Pantle, p a n t l e. He filed a huge lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida, and he's suing all of these judges, individually or, it's it's, pursuant to the case of Norton versus Shelby County, title one eighteen US four twenty five, who have admittedly by de facto acts usurped and unlawfully occupied the offices of the circuit court judge in the eighteenth judicial circuit, usurped and unlawfully occupied the offices of chief justice of the Supreme Court of Florida, and county court judge for nineteenth judicial court, usurped and unlawfully occupied the offices of county court. And it's all due to the all caps name and the corporations that they're operating under right now.
And it does have to do with the traffic case, but, the they've asked for motions to dismiss, and they've those motions have been denied. So
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I don't know. It it it reminds me of that. He's
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suing these people in a different
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mode. Okay. All the judges filed a motion to dismiss? Who filed the motion to dismiss?
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You don't know?
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Anyway, well, okay. If you hear any more, keep us up with it. You know, the thing that strikes me out of that circuit, the little that I know of it, I would imagine it includes Orlando.
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It is. It is Orlando. It's Seminole Seminole County.
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Okay. Seminole County. Well, that that's the circuit that overturned the mask mandate with a Yeah. And they're yep. Former former clerk female judge. And, whether she'll get the case in the way it revolves and assigned or whatnot. But, anyway, I do know that's the circuit where that happened.
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Yeah. They're they're, he's accusing them of operating without, title one statute 23 oath of office, and he's accusing them of, in being an absence of all jurisdiction and trespassing into onto a court case in violation of the first act of congress one statute 23 and Florida con constitution article five section five b, which states the circuit courts shall have original jurisdiction not vested in the county courts. So he's he he they he has all of this stuff about them colluding with one another. It's incredible. It's a 49 page case. I read the whole thing, and, he appeared in a, on stage yesterday in a conference down in Miami, going over this. But I pulled the case down and read it, and it's just incredible. So he's suing each circuit court judge and even the, attorney general because the attorney general got involved. And he's like, you can't there's there's separation of powers. You yep. There's separation of powers. You can't go to the sheriff who's part of the executive branch and mix that in with the judicial branch.
So, he's got all their executive or all of their oaths of office, and then he's got all of the fact that the, Florida is a corporation. And he's bringing all that stuff into here, and he's suing each one for $5,000,100
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plus every year. Goes. And, you know, there's a lot of things being revealed right now. Boy, they're coming, you know, fast and furious from every vector, really. I I I honestly never thought I'd live long enough to see these days.
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And, it's And the other thing, Roger, that I wanted to tell you is that, he's he's also accusing these people of having oaths that are incorporated because of the corporation.
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Okay. Well, the, that was what I was gonna mention was I'm surprised some of these things haven't come out. I could list a couple of them. This, these chap, bonds that were sold to China over a hundred years ago that they owe us just The United States Bondholders. Brent, do you know about this? I don't know if you've ever been on when we've talked about it. Well, the first piece of paper I ever found when I was got woke up here toward the Internet was at the Cobb County Library in a book on historical document important historical documents. I knew the years range, and I went in, picked up one in the reference section there, opened it up to around the turn of last century. And first thing I found was this little bitty short article. It's called Woodrow Wilson's repudiation of dollar diplomacy.
Have we ever talked about that?
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No. I think we have.
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Have. Well, we have, but, Brent No. So well, it was, right after evidently when Wilson got elected, and he as he puts it in this short darkness, only a couple of paragraphs, very, very revealing though. And he said, I was approached by a consortium of bankers to cosign this loan with China, Hundred Million Dollars for railroad just like the Rothschilds did all over the world for a railroad on this country just now awakening to its people's needs or whatever, and he decided not to do it. And then he gave the reasons. Well, this one paragraph says, part of the problem here is the tax system, which proposed tax system, which is get this language, Britney, you like language.
Antiquated and burdensome. Absolutely, totally accurate description. Antiquated and burdensome and enforced by foreign agents. It's right there in the document. And and this, that, and the other. And so, anyway, when COVID started, I was watching or trying to learn about China. There was a good program on YouTube back then, epic times. It was accurate. Internal sources, all that. And one of the guys over there has this older female lawyer on. He's she is the head of this company or that exchanges debts from countries and debts all over the world. And she runs the place and she said, well, here's what happened.
When that hundred million dollars, they went ahead and loaned that money to China anyway. And, the Brits, when they gave Hong Kong back to China, part of the deal was they had to pay off the British bondholders of that, but they didn't have to pay off the US Bondholders and they hate The US. And so she said there's 20,000 US bondholders of this. They've never been paid a penny nor will they ever be. And, the total now hold on just a second, please. The total now is a hundred $700,000,000,000. We only owe China One Point Two Trillion. And she said, I met with president Trump. He knows about this.
Since he's talking about trading debts, you know, we trade debts every day. That's what we do. Okay? So Trump could've and still could go back to those bondholders and offer them 5 or 10¢ on the dollar, found money that they'll never see any other way. Okay? And then go back and deal China's debt back to them in our debt payments. So that's one thing that I know about because of my research and because seeing this woman. There's others. There was one we talked about last week with the, that guy, independent guy that's found all this trickery and chicanery with these judges and people like Adam Schiff and and all of our favorites, Adam Schiff and and and Resnick or whatever that little revolting creep's name is, Rask Raskin, and even this judge Broberg that's having so much controversy.
They've been doing all that stuff too. Adam Schiff is technically a resident of Maryland. Yet he's been a California house member and now senator, which he can't be if he's a resident of Maryland. So there's all kinds of these things that are bubbling under back there in the background. But it's incredible how much stuff's coming out. So, anyway, sorry to run off on that, but they're just two examples right in the forefront of my mind on this. Who was trying to say, hey, Roger, a minute ago?
[01:29:58] Unknown:
It was Samuel. Yesterday, DeSanto said that, he's trying to work with the federal government to use the state militia, I guess Yeah. Or the state guard and the national guard in order to help deport illegals including being judges.
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Yep. Asking you just waiting on a technical authorization from somebody from, whichever to delegate the authority to them and that and he's the first one doing it. And, so the the country's waking up in a lot of ways and there's a lot of stuff coming out. And man, it is ugly. It is ugly what these people have been. As bad as we thought it was, is a hundred times worse. Just this little bit we know. Okay. I'll stop ranting here. I'm beginning to feel like Alex Jones.
[01:30:54] Unknown:
Well, Roger, if that guy, Bryant Israel or Brian, the head of, Overstock dot com, he's a works for the government a lot. Yeah. He's saying they're an analyst from the Chinese analyst, political analysts for every county in the country, and that they try to affect a policy from the dog catcher on up.
[01:31:16] Unknown:
I'm sure they do, but, you know, they got a heap of problems now, and especially now since Trump's turned the table on these tariffs. There's over 40 countries around the world that have come to Trump and wanna cut deals. Nobody has gone to China. Now probably with with, Carney getting elected in Canada and declaring war on Trump and the, the global alliance against Trump will probably be the first country that will attach to China in this cause. And that's another big concern. We've been worried about the southern border. Well, hell, we better start worrying about the northern border now and quick. K?
So any anybody else got something they wanna add? Brent, you wanna you got a comment on any of that that caught your ear or, or what?
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No. I the a lot of what goes on. I remember I told you last time that I was listening to last week, I think. I I listened to Tucker Carlson, and somebody was interviewing him and they said, well, what news outlets do you listen to? He said, I don't listen to any. Yeah. Either you read the newspapers. Are you kidding? No. Why would I read the newspapers? They're not gonna tell me anything that's true. Yeah. The news outlets are gonna tell me anything that's true either. I was on for hours every day giving commentary.
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And do you remember the next question the guy asked? Where do you get your information? He says, I interview people. Yeah. And and that's and if you're interviewing people, you're getting boots on the ground, and you're gonna get
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probably the truth and reading the paper. But the papers and the media outlets are all controlled by powerful people who control the narrative. It's that simple. Yep. When I was, involved in politics, we discovered that there were three about 300 news outlets that controlled everything that comes out of Washington, DC. Mhmm. Now in The States, I discovered there's often just one or two news outlet that controls everything that comes out of the state houses of your state. And they only let come out what they wanna come out, and they only comment on what they wanna comment on. And if you read the New York Times or the Washington Post, and those were the big ones when I was, and newspapers were big when I was running for office. That's been a while many a few decades back.
But we discovered that there's nothing in any of those that will tell you the truth. You don't you'd be a fool to read them. I listened to this one fella. All it's gonna do is is skew your mind and you begin to think that maybe there is something to what they're saying, and there isn't. One fella, his name was, he used to go to Martin Blackwell at an organization called the Leadership Institute, and he gutted the old cartography building of the of the US map service. And, he had big donors. He had been in the Reagan administration, and he became the state Republican party chairman of the state of Virginia.
And he got this whole building, close to DC, and he held the leadership institute there. And you could come there if you're running for office. It was all free. Free lodging. All the food you could eat twenty four hours a day, they had food out for you. The guy had money behind him. But then he would bring in people that would be expert in their particular area, how to set up a computer system. That was big back then because that was kinda new. And use that in politics because people haven't figured that out yet, how to dress before the camera, what kinda colors and what combinations when you're running for office, and how to campaign and and, what to say about, for example, that's where I met Larry Pratt. They invite somebody in that said, knows a lot about a particular thing, and he gave us lectures on the second amendment and what it means.
And so I learned a lot there, but one of the fellows that came, I believe the name of his organization was the Tax Freedom Institute. No. That wasn't it. I forget what it was. But he, said, how do you get to the truth? His lectures were about how to find the truth when you're running for office. And he said, well, you take most newspapers. Take, for example, I remember he held up the New York Times, which was a well known newspaper at that time. A lot of people read it. He said, what I do with the New York Times is I take all of these pages. They took all the pages of of from the New York Times, but one watered them up and threw them in the trash can. He said, I don't read any of that. Hang on. The New York Times accept the editorial page. And the only thing on the editorial page I read, and then he told the name of the editorial writer he read. He's the only one at the New York Times that will tell you the truth. All the rest of them are liars. And they're promoting things and talking about things that aren't even news, and and then they're telling you lies about what they mean.
Well so I I did learn that the first principle there that I came across was, the newspapers don't tell you the truth. Well, I found that to be true because they started writing things about me. And I look at it and I say, why are they saying this? This isn't true. I didn't even I didn't even say that to this fella who interviewed me. I said this. Why is he saying I said that? And you find out that politics is nothing. It's a culture of lies from one end to the other. And if you're not willing to engage in it, you won't last long. You'll never get into office. This is war. You know, what I chose to do in politics, just as an example, I just chose not to talk about a lot of things. I just didn't talk about it. People would ask me about some subject. And for example, they'd asked me about, homosexuality.
And I'd say, well, that's not a question for the general government in Washington, DC. I'm running for US Congress. And I say, here's the subjects that the constitution of The United States doesn't allow the Congress to pass legislation about or and or even have jurisdiction to debate. Number one, abortion. Abortion. And then a whole lot of the things followed after that, homosexuality. That the general government in Washington DC, the Congress of the United States, the Supreme Court of the United States, the president has no jurisdiction to say anything about those subjects. That belongs to the states, and the Supreme Court of the United States recently said that about abortion. Yes, sir. We're reversing Roe v Wade, and the states have all police powers within their within their territorial boundaries. They can decide what they wanna do in their state with this. This is not a subject for the federal government or the Supreme Court of the United States. It's not a subject that the constitution of The United States authorizes us to talk about. Period.
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Especially when it's based on a false affidavit that the affiant has recently admitted.
[01:38:05] Unknown:
Well, let let's say that yeah. I get that, Roger. But even if they were good affidavits of truth, the Supreme Court should have said we're not taking that case. The federal court said we're not taking that case. Yep. We have no jurisdiction over this matter, period. Yep. That's a matter for the police powers of the states. The the, jurisdiction of the federal courts, the Supreme Court, the president, the Congress is exceedingly narrow scope of jurisdiction. Yep. Just it has to be within what the constitution of The United States says, and it and most of what they hear, frankly, constitution doesn't give them jurisdiction to even hear. Mhmm. If we had it right, the states we'd be paying attention to the state courts, the state governments, because the federal government wouldn't been doing that much. You see, there weren't even any federal prisons until after the turn of the century, World War one. There were so few federal crimes. The only federal crimes that the federal courts ever prosecuted were Admiralty cases.
That's an exclusive jurisdiction of the federal courts. So if somebody committed piracy or a felony on the high seas or or, or they, committed treason. They'd throw them in they didn't have any prison, so they'd throw them into Leavenworth, which is a military prison or the navy brig down there in Virginia. They throw them in there. They didn't need any have any need for federal prison, and the federal courts didn't have much business at all, frankly. They just were there in case you needed them. Diversity jurisdiction. We talked about that with area of Hopkins versus area railroad. That did happen sometimes.
Yep. But the states are to be the center of attention and empower in America. Isn't it funny? Most all the income tax goes to the general government in Washington DC. Very little by comparison goes to the states. It should be the other way around. Should be the other way around. If we're gonna pay income tax, I don't think we should be paying it. But the state governments, what they end up doing is begging the general government in Washington DC for money. Well, what does that give that that gives them power over the states, over the governors, over everything. We don't want that. Why are we doing that?
[01:40:11] Unknown:
According I wanted to stop you and just make a small insertion here according to the Grace report. You're familiar with that. Right? Peter Grace? Grace Commission. Uh-huh. Yes. His statement was not one nickel of your income tax goes to the day to day running of the federal government. No. Ever ever dime of income tax goes to interest servicing what they call the national debt doesn't even exist. Until Yeah. They've paid that, and any excess is then given to the treasury evidently. Yeah. Yeah. And last year, 2423 was the first year since the inception of this little fiat game that they never had an access to give to the treasury Yep. Because of COVID and all the people that were locked up and all the repercussions of that that didn't file, and that was evidently a heavy impact on it. I wonder if it's continuing.
But yeah. Well, that hope you know, this whole thing, Trump's trying to get tariffs in here. I think that's a very wise move. It seems to be really panning out. And I don't know if you saw again, because I know you're traveling, not a news bug per se. You didn't see that room, the in the Oval Office with all those international businessmen the other day, did you? Where it's standing all up and Trump's reading off how much they pledged to bring plants in and manufacturing into the country. Do you see any of that, Brent? Oh, I heard tell of it, but I didn't see it. Over $9,000,000,000,000 already. Yeah. Okay. So it looks like the tariff thing's gonna work, and, we'll cross our fingers so we may have that take care of the income tax. The one of the most successful periods the country's ever had was from 1870 up until 1913 when we were exclusively on that tariff system. I've told the story here on the show. You ever remember a book that was floating around about twenty five, thirty years ago called Goodbye April 15?
Do you ever see that, Brent? It was a pretty good book on income tax at the time from what people knew. But in the back of that, he had a cartoon from the eighteen seventies, and it was a cartoon caricature of the senate and the well in the senate. And in the well, it was full of alligators because the country was becoming so wealthy through tariffs that they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate.
[01:42:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, we had plenty of money. We rent things rent. I didn't have all the money. We needed to do what we ever we thought we needed to do without income tax. So why is it we have income tax? And,
[01:42:48] Unknown:
the reason is go ahead, Roger. Go ahead. That's the it's the linchpin of this system. They can't bring in this debt money system without having some origin of the credit, And this is the origin of the credit tap. And the income tax is so necessary because it allows the system to continue to operate as long as it has without totally blowing up. Yeah. Because That's why the IRS is so fierce. We we have a guy on here came on yesterday. He's new. You know, he's been listening, and he's a farmer. And he said, Roger, can you help me not lay awake at night thinking about this? And we talked about it for a while. I said there's all only answer I can give you is just to learn the information and get the empowerment going and realize you've got the power that has been tricked and you've been deceived out of it, and this is how you get it back. And they recognize it.
And we've never had any of the IRS beating down your door or anything. You don't even understand how the process works, but that's how they've got people in fear of this. And you said, and I use this often, you've seen grown businessmen wet their pants when they get a letter from the IRS. Those are your words.
[01:43:57] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I've seen it. I mean, men who you think would, be bold in every way every way and sit and sit with me. I remember one fella, a well-to-do business man. He'd made a few billions, and he sat in the car with me outside a coffee shop, and it was raining, drizzling rain, and he couldn't he couldn't stop sobbing. He said, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. They're after me. And, that's what they want. They want you to be afraid of them. And understandably, because they have the power to throw you in prison, ruin your family, destroy your marriage. They'll try to do that. They've got every angle in the book, destroy your business and destroy your marriage. That's what they focus on first is your marriage. How can we split this man and his wife so he had doesn't have emotional support? We can take him down. Right. Well And then start screwing with your kids. I remember the saying from pastor Pete, you know, you serve the one you fear.
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Boy, is that true.
[01:44:55] Unknown:
It is true. So let's come back to reality, friends. Get off all the baloney about all the patriot mythology and the capital letters and all that kind of stuff. Get away from that, run from it, and go to the laws of nature. The laws of nature is God. If that becomes your passion, it's not something you can work up in yourself. It's something God works up in you. If that becomes your passion and your discipline, then you will slowly begin to enjoy your Christian life. You won't enjoy it before. No, Jesus Christ said, I came to bring you life. Okay. I got fire insurance. I'm not going to hell. He came to do that. He paid the penalty for your law breaking, but then he's added, I came to bring you life. I got it. Then and and that life more abundantly, life more abundantly. How does that come? Well, that's the enjoyment of the knowing that your future is secure. You don't have to worry about going to hell. How many people have I met? Say, well, I hope I'm good. I met a fellow this weekend. I hope I'm good enough to go to heaven.
Well, that's all you got? You're just hoping, but you don't know? You're living in misery, dude. You don't know. If I were you, I'd be worried every day of my life. No. The Bible says, I don't write I write these things to you. Not that you may hope, but that you may know you have eternal life. You may know why experientially, ginosko and then in the, in the new testament that you may know. And so the Bible doesn't say it's a matter of hope, but most false religion or and a lot of it, Protestant, Roman Catholic, all different kinds, they'll tell you you gotta do something. If you don't, if you don't do this, that or the other, God won't accept you. That's a lie from the pit of hell. You don't get into the family of God, the kingdom of God, by doing something.
Well, I walked an aisle. I know you don't get in that way either. Yeah. I confessed my sins. No. You don't get that way either. But I kept God's ten ten commandments best I could. And my good will outweigh my bad. God doesn't operate. And either you're either in or out. You're either good or bad. It's heaven or hell, black or white, saint or ain't. You're one of those, and it doesn't depend upon what you do and don't do. You don't get into the kingdom of the family of God by doing something at being a good person and you don't get out if you're a bad person. No, no. You get in just like you got into your family, here on earth. You get in by birth. God does it. You don't do it. And once you're in, you don't get out by doing something stupid. Oh, you'll do a lot of things stupid. You're doing them right now. Probably most of us, we live in that mode. We try to, but if at least we know the standard of God, we aspire toward it. We can experience the joys of having a decent life and having just a little bit of honor and dignity. And you don't have any otherwise, my friend, there is no option for honor and dignity outside of the Lord Jesus Christ, the maker of heaven and earth. He is the one that is worthy, not you. But he paid the penalty and you're forensically forensically forgiven of all your law breaking. And, you break the law of God, the Bible says right in the beginning, and the day you sin, you you're dead. You're separated. That means separated from the life of God and you're on the downhill slide.
Just that's all it takes. And that's all it took for our grandma and grandpa Adam and Eve. But by the authority and the declaration and the forensic pain of your of your, the penalty for your law breaking, God has set you into a perfect position, a perfect standing before him. Perfect. Perfected. You can't make it any better. Or you can try to. It won't change anything. You are his son. You are his daughter. Period. My father get mad at me, Roger. I've had him get really mad at me. I'll say, oh, I'm just gonna throw you out. You know? That's normal. That's why. I say, well, nice try, dad, but you can't run ring the bell, and what's done is done. I'm your son, and I can't make you not my father, and you can't make me not my not your son. It it's a done deal. God did it. God did it. I can't undo it. And what God does, no man can undo. It's not possible.
When he says when the when he says through his word that he has forgiven you of a double l, a double l, all of your sin. That means all. That means past, present, and future. Well, what about my future sins? Well, just think for a minute friend. When Jesus Christ paid the penalty for your sin by being nailed to a post naked and died a life for your life, when he did that, all your sins were future. He paid for all of them. Yeah. Past, present, and future. Yeah. And all of them were future when that happened. Yeah. Well, that's what the book says. I'm just telling you. I'm reporting what the book says. This isn't my opinion. These things are unambiguously
[01:49:38] Unknown:
the word of God. Yes. Nice. But Nice to know we can use the futures market too.
[01:49:43] Unknown:
Yeah. And we got a great retirement, so I can't beat it. Well, that's,
[01:49:50] Unknown:
let me stick my wet my finger here and stick stick it up in the winds. Anybody got any, questions or comments for Bren or myself? Star six. Come on in. We got a few minutes left. Hi, sir.
[01:50:02] Unknown:
There's just Julie. Yes? Miss Julie? Yeah. Hi. Yeah. I agree not using these all caps stuff, in these court cases, but the only reason why, Chad put these in there was because his arrest for his warrant was in all caps. And so he basically, put that in there. But there's a website called badboys.us, and it talks about all of the unsealed indictments by with all these, nefarious actors on pacer.gov and total top cases by state. The first state is Texas, the second is California, third is Arizona, fourth is New York, fifth is New Mexico, sixth is Florida, and you have Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, and my state of Virginia, which has 28,709, unsealed indictments. Texas has 352,140 unsealed indictments. I
[01:51:02] Unknown:
understand, the grapevine has it that I pick grapes from occasionally that there are slew of indictments coming, Brent. I don't know if you've heard that or not yet. Even though it appears they've been somewhat idle and stifled on the on the surface, they have been like a duck and paddling like hell underneath. That's what I'm told. So, anyway, we'll see. I know, James O'Keefe has got some kind of a major whistle blowing announcement coming this week. It's a new week. Uh-huh. And just things are being exposed, man. All these things that we would never dreamed we'd know of, and it's just the same old magicians doing
[01:51:42] Unknown:
the same basic old tricks. You know? I'm I'm in the business of exposing those things myself and, going into court and exposing the the sex perversion, the breaches of loyalty, I'm there. I'm I get it. I'm doing it too. Not as a prosecutor, but as a as a private citizen. Yeah. We're all there. I'm there. Cool. Yeah. Well, we're making progress. There seems to be waking up and and
[01:52:07] Unknown:
and the people seem to be turning more to Christianity, which we've discussed on here is probably the ultimate only answer for the real all this. Samuel might have one, though. What you got, Samuel?
[01:52:19] Unknown:
James O'Keefe made a very short little video. He's sitting on a regular little chair with sort of his hand in hand in head, and, he said, I'm in some real dangerous territory right now. I'm not suicidal. He got up, and he left the camera.
[01:52:38] Unknown:
Yep. And what has happened yeah. He made a shortened thing last week. And what has happened with all the whistleblowers that are coming forward, a couple that had been on the fence that were real important have come off the fence. That's what I think we're gonna see this week. Go ahead, Julie.
[01:52:56] Unknown:
Yeah. James O'Keefe also said he said I'm going dark. So he's he's had his life threatened big time, like, like Virginia, Guthrie or whatever. I mean, she didn't Yes. She didn't die from a bus hitting her. She would have the crap beaten out of her. Well,
[01:53:12] Unknown:
you know, it may it may have it may backfire on them because what's happening evidently is these volumes of information with all of these women. And some of them are contacting, Blondie there and saying, I don't care if my name's out there. Release the names.
[01:53:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Sometimes sometimes going public could save your life. Yes. Oh, yeah.
[01:53:36] Unknown:
If you've got something here's what I would come to understand, Brent, because I kinda had this with my situation and this information at one time. If you've got something that's real damaging to them and you haven't put it out yet, boy, that's when you're in danger. If you've put it out, now their concentration has to focus on keeping the fire ring retained and see if they can stifle its growth. That frees you. See? Because then if they kill you, you they make you a martyr and, you know, they don't like martyrs. They've been dealing with one for a couple thousand years now. Yeah, Paul? Once it's out there in damage control mode. Julie, what was that website again? Bad-boys.net?
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Yeah. It was it's bad, hyphen, b let's see here. Bad dash b o y s dot u s.
[01:54:30] Unknown:
Oh, dot u s. Okay.
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Did I say .com? I I apologize.
[01:54:35] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I no. I I was I was trying .netand.com. Neither one of those worked. So thank you for clarifying.
[01:54:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. And the sealed indictments are up 7,263 since the last update.
[01:54:50] Unknown:
Oh, good lord. Probably get that many just out of the states that you named a minute ago, Brent. Boy, there's some rocking suckers. They're they're they're starting to get real concerned. So, it looks like the wind's changing. The, the, our course can be altered, and, we're just gonna go full ahead. Anybody else got something for Brent or myself? Thank you, Jules.
[01:55:15] Unknown:
Yeah. If we if the trust got collapsed, I've heard yeah. Hi. George, Idaho. How are you doing, Roger? Hey, George. I haven't heard from you in a while. Brent and I hear what you got for us? Yeah. It was down South Of The Equator, so I couldn't really, it was really expensive to to call. Yeah. So There were. Yeah. Enjoy enjoying the exchange rate down there and and the motorcycle motorbikes and pushing the show Were you in our of the global south? Were you in Argentina
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or Oh, Brazil. Okay. I don't know. I've not been to Brazil. I hear some interesting stories about it. You you have a nice trip?
[01:55:53] Unknown:
We did. Yeah. Good family family trip first time for Easter and the processions and all that jazz and Oh, yeah. Mom's
[01:56:01] Unknown:
mother in law's birthday and all that. So Oh, wow. You had a whole round robin and stuff, didn't you?
[01:56:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Good to be back on what's left of Europe here. So Yes. As as we reach 54 demographic average, I think, of European now in the in trying to become just like England. But, yeah, it just was if we've collapsed the, if we've collapsed the trust by becoming nationals
[01:56:30] Unknown:
What trust? Question. What what
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what trust? The '4 fourteenth and fourteenth amendment trust and, of course, what they've done with the currency and everything else. If we've done that by becoming nationals, just a trust question, the federal jurisdiction that goes into the courts, including a lot of the local courts traffic wise and everything else, child support wise, all those different federal programs that have, kind of, put put us into federal jurisdiction. If we've collapsed that by being nationals, would it would it also go to state that we could take whatever they've done with the currency and give that back to them, return them what's called the reversion reversionary interest back to the treasury and, give the use of fraud back to the state. And I'm kinda curious as to trust law if, I know that, Brent works with trust law. I don't know if he's
[01:57:29] Unknown:
what his comments are on on that. Well, I I I don't I'm not aware. The trust you're thanks for calling in. The trust that you were talking about that needs to be collapsed, I'm not aware of any trust, like what you're talking about that needs to be collapsed. In other in other words, the government of the United States has no authority to establish a trust. The constitution doesn't give them that authority. If it's not there, they don't have the authority. They have no authority to incorporate anything. To set up all these corporations, TVA, at home, we had the Wabash Valley Authority, the Columbia River Authority, all of those. And the local, of course, the local, electric co ops, There's no authority the constitution gives the feds to do that, and that needs to be all ended.
So and the trust you're talking about, I'm not I'm not aware of that either. They have no authority to do that. So, I yeah. I'm not I'm not with it. I don't know the question. I can't identify what your question would be. Comment.
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Yes, Paul. I think what he's referring to as a I I think what he's referring to as a trust is actually the bond that was associated with the birth certificate. And that being the case, just because you filed an affidavit declaring yourself as a national doesn't dissolve that because you didn't create it, so you can't uncreate it. They're gonna still continue to trade it. Well, yeah. It was fraud. Go away, but if you can't
[01:58:59] Unknown:
these come on. Let's not be naive on who we're dealing with here. They're not gonna oh, Bo, George. File something. We gotta go pull all that out of Wall Street or however it is. That's not just gonna happen. So but the important part is this. You get to unhook yourself from the mechanism that's the debt collection for a fraudulent debt. That's what I see as the good side here, George. Just because you're no longer funding it Right. Doesn't mean it goes away. So, anyway, that I would What's going away Yeah.
[01:59:35] Unknown:
In other words, you're saying It was like a peace it's a peace treaty, in other words. But that's the most question after the Well,
[01:59:42] Unknown:
okay. We're gonna we're gonna cut the show because we do have limits as to time here with the server. And so always, we appreciate Brent, your your producer there in the background, miss Francine, and things that you bring us and the discussions that you spurn among the audience and, hopefully, get people thinking. So thank you again, Brent, as always. A joy Thank you. A good program with you, and we'll look forward to next week and see if there's any bombshells or landmines between now and them. And, if there is, I know we'll talk about it. But, we just really appreciate what you bring us. And if you don't have a church home, by the way, you can go to commonlawyer.com and, follow the link over to Brent's Sunday two hour service, which with Francine producing the music and the show is a very nice way to spend your Sunday morning should you not have a church home. Or if you just wanna stay home one day in the rain or snow and check something else out. We'll see you, tomorrow here and, Brent on his place.
Take care. Have a wonderful day. Thank you, Roger. Always a pleasure, Brent.
[02:00:58] Unknown:
Never let an opportunity to whack the wave hose off of a wilder beast pass you by.
[02:01:03] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a good that's a good title for today's show. Now, George, back to your, query here that we got interrupted with.
[02:01:15] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I was I wasn't really even caring about whether they've done something with bonds or whatever. It's about, like, with the lever code, if they've if they've kept us in and the question came up when you were on, Roger. If we're still under martial law based on the Libra code, if that's if that's the case based on Which some people seem to think. A peace. Mhmm. And never being a peace treaty after the Lincoln's war, the war between the states, whatever whatever was happening, that trust that got set up with the Gettysburg Address, or the Emancipation Proclamation.
[02:01:51] Unknown:
What
[02:01:52] Unknown:
What is A trust to hold it, George. You're always going off into this trust stuff. What trust was set up by the Gettysburg Address? I thought it was a very short and concise little speech.
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Yeah. And they they basically re kinda reconstituted the declaration of independence in that, in that if you look at how Lincoln's whoever wrote that, the words were. So if they were setting up a blood covenant again, then it's really interesting to say what happened as a result of that, you know, the banking act of 1864 and all, and how that put us into kind of a new the new realm that they that they wanted to create, like a globalization of United States, if you will. A global How about a federalization
[02:02:41] Unknown:
of The United how about a federalization of The United States? I think that's very accurate. World.
[02:02:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. Well, you gotta start somewhere. You have the Spanish. Yeah. You have the Spanish. We're right. You had the, Teddy got involved, Teddy Roosevelt, then you had the World War one, World War two. So, anyway, with the with the they they couldn't undo what they had already put up with the original, you know, our sacred our our sacred honor under the declaration of independence. So so now with the birth certificate, if that is indeed like a peace treaty so that you can you can be identified, if you will, as a as a man, as a as a you're it it's it's it's it's definitely evidence of an event that occurred, your physical birth. Right? Your physical, nature's god birth by the insemination and by the matriculation in your mother in gestation in your mother's womb. So there's a physical, natural birth. But then there's this piece of paper that they create that they that your mom signs, and that is something that they've created. So they've made Yeah. Treaty, if you will. And Well I guess that's what I was trying to get at. No. Okay. Hold hold on. Let's get the national Let's get the treaty and the trust. From that.
Mhmm. Go ahead.
[02:04:03] Unknown:
I was just gonna say because we know a little bit about this, George. And I don't know if you've heard those shows. The way I look at it is, you know, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born. Okay? You go back at a gal a gal whose father and grandfather both been doctors, and they had all those, doctors books from both of their careers and lives. And back then, life, began at conception, of course. But now it begins under the fourteenth amendment. And, so I think my question to you is when are you, quote, unquote, born? If you're halfway out of mama's birth canal, are you born yet? Are you in the process of being born?
Well, I think the obvious answer there. The way I look at this is up until your feet, unless you're a breech birth, come out of mama's birth canal, you're not born. Therefore, you're not a person under the fourteenth amendment, and you have no legal protection. That's why in the room, you're fair game. Once your feet come out of mama's birth canal, you're born. You're a person. They generate this document. And, what John always thought I've never seen anything John Benson thought that didn't hadn't turned out to be correct over all these years. And he thought that they were using that as a commercial document.
It's called a warehouse receipt. They're still used today. They've been used for a long time in commerce where the paper and this is an old Supreme Court case. The paper actually takes on the personum, the personality of the good. The paper become the good becomes the good it represents. And that's how they're using it, and that's evidenced by Brian Howard, who I get to speak with, I guess, today later for the first time in a few years. Brian Howard went to the hospital in Austin where his children were born and got it straight from the office. And when that say that birth certificate is finally printed at the Bureau of Vital Statistics, it's put into a bank safe with armed guards twenty four hours, seven days a week.
That's straight from the hospital, George. That's not Patriot BS. That's straight from the office at that hospital that handled and oversaw the procedure. K? So those are things we know that are facts, and I believe that's true. And because, it makes a lot of sense that that's what they do. And the who are we dealing with? The merchants of the earth. Why are we under the UCC? Because they know things like this that they can use in situations like this that other people know probably wouldn't understand. Okay?
So that's what I'd stop you with and inject at this point. And when you file that, I don't think you are what we do has anything to do with that. K? I don't think they're gonna recognize it from the standpoint of taking whatever is assigned in commerce or on bonds or whatever. Now this is an interesting aspect of that, though. If and, of course, you're never gonna get them to admit that's what's going on. But by the process of elimination, you come to see and knowing how they think and do things and how things work, if that's the way they got and and run this whole shenanigan. They get a property right in you. That way, they can pull this little financial scam, and this is the origin of the credit spout.
There is no money. There's only credit. And the credit origin is when they collateralize your future labor, attach it to this bond, and sell it to some investor over some time frame. Your taxes are inextracted to pay those coupon payments. So I don't know about trust or or any of the other stuff. That's what I know. And as long as I've been in here in this thing and teaching it, that that appears to be exactly what they're doing. Now we've had it confirmed from a number of angles like that hospital in Austin, Texas.
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Right
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there. Yes. Okay. Brent first, Julie.
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Oh, just quickly. I understand it stands to reason. We know reading the history of taxation that they depend the the banks that want they want the money, and the government says, well, we got this many this this much population out here producing, so we'll use that as collateral. Yeah. And when you were in school, they came around. When you're in high school, they come around, and there'd be one of the students that had a part time job at the principal's office. They'd come around every first class of the day at 08:00 and ask everybody, how many people were there.
And they'd take that information, how many people were in the high school that day, and the principal would get on the telephone. Back at that time, it was the telephone. He'd call the state capitol, and he would report to the state capital how many people were in school that day. And according to how many people were in school over a hundred and eighty days or however many days where they had school, that's how much money that school system got. In other words, it was all for financial reasons. What were they doing? They were prostituting children for money Yep. For their local school district. And they wanted that money. It's all coming down to jobs for teachers and jobs for other people. We say, but we gotta do that. I'm not saying right or wrong. I'm just saying, listen. It's all about carcasses and money.
Yeah. And birth certificates are the same way. Mhmm. It's all about that's proof. We got a live carcass. We got the potential to borrow money on the collateral. We can say, well, in the future, if we borrow this money another twenty years, this this this individual that was born on the basis of that and our actuarial tables, how many will live to be long old enough to work and make money, the banks will loan money. Yep. And that's not there's nice prostitution of babies. But there never has been a time, and in all of Europe for centuries, it wasn't it wasn't called a birth certificate. It was called a certificate of baptism.
Right. Stored in the local cathedral. And that was what said that you were part of the country. If you weren't baptized, you hadn't have record of it as a baby. You weren't part of the country. We haven't changed. It's always been this way. I'm not arguing the right or wrongness of it, but to have proof of live birth, and that's what we're talking about. Yeah. You're part of the system. See? And I'm not saying that's necessarily
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a bad system, except this. It's like the biblical when the, when we got a good king, the people rejoice. When there's a bad king, the people moan. Well, when you got good, honest system that benefits everybody, the people rejoice. When you got this small, little, greedy bunch that wanna control you and suck your essence out with about seven or eight damn different layers of compound interest, well, that's when the people moan.
[02:11:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Now back in your that's right, Roger. In Europe, when that happened, if you came along during the reformation and you said, well, I don't think the baptism of Rome is valid, and we're gonna we're gonna rebaptize by pouring or sprinkling whatever. They call them the rebaptizers. The they call them Anabaptists is the Greek word. Rebaptizers. Listen. When you got burnt at the stake for being an Anabaptist, see, what you were saying is my birth certificate is no good. Here's how important that was to them that your birth certificate was valid. Because that's what baptism certificate is, an infant baptism. They said, I I don't want that anymore. I'm gonna do it myself. Well, when they did that, if you were an Anabaptist and taught that, they didn't just, they didn't put you at the stake and strangle you and burn you. They burned you alive.
They burned you alive. They burned the people that translated the Bible and the ones that did not promote Anabaptism, the reformers that just said, we believe the Bible is final, but we'll accept the baptism of the church. Oh, we'll just burn you. We'll strangle you so you don't suffer in the flames. You see? But the Anabaptists know. You reject that birth certificate, the certificate of baptism, and we'll, we'll make it hurt for you. So there was something very important about that something very important to the powers that be about that certificate of baptism. My my perception is it is equal to what we call today, a birth certificate here in America.
[02:12:29] Unknown:
Probably. Now here's another interesting fact behind that. Certificate, not the baptism. Okay. Hold on, George. I wanted to add this. The birth certificates originated in The States. Lisa looked it up here on the show one day. We're talking about it. I believe the first state was in the eighteen fifties, and it was, like, Illinois or one of the states. And and and so but they didn't have it. I think they just used it as sort of some sort of an identification of the birth. The federal birth certificate law was passed right smack dab in the middle of the first depression in 2122.
It was a very short lived depression because the president, with the Coolidge or whoever it was, didn't go in there and mess with it. He just let it work with natural forces out. It only lasted two years, but that's when the feds took that on. And I think in the timeline, because they knew they were gonna flip this system about twelve years later, and those were gonna be the first replacement collateral for the new United States that they flipped two and thirty three as collateral for the bonds. And I that's what I think. I've not got no proof. I just think that's what it is. Makes sense. Now, Julie was trying to say something, and I'm gonna defer to her, a couple of guys or men back there. But, Julie, what you got?
[02:13:48] Unknown:
Well, I was just gonna, expound on what George was saying about the Gettysburg address. I my readings, and I don't know if they're correct or not because we have a lot of dis disinformation, but, when SDR did the bankruptcy in 1933 with the bond market, my understanding is that the Bank of International Settlements is the trustee
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Probably.
[02:14:11] Unknown:
Trust, and the trust owns the government of the United States corporation. Well Congress are the employees of that
[02:14:20] Unknown:
corporation. Well, initially, I think it the International Monetary Fund is the immediate trustee because if you go to the code in title 28, which is treasury, and I don't know the section, but there's a one sentence, and it says the secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund.
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So he's the governor of international.
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But but no doubt, the BIS controls the International Monetary Fund. And virtually, what did I hear somebody talking about it the other day? A 73 central banks around the world plus all the markets, all the stock markets, all the futures markets, all the penny markets, all the whatever markets. They control all of them.
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Yeah. And, the, my but my understanding also is that the United Nations owns the IMF.
[02:15:10] Unknown:
Well, it may. I don't know how they've got it structured, but anything, it's no doubt under the control of the BIS because everything else is. Yeah. Yeah. And they've got themselves set up, whoever I forget who was talking about this the other day. They're they're like the Vatican and DC and the City Of London. They've got their own passports. They they can't come on the property and serve you papers. It's just totally Yep. So yep. Little Basel, Switzerland right there. That little patch of dirt. I don't know how big it is, but they got some pretty big mojo.
[02:15:51] Unknown:
Yeah. But Roger, I've also heard I've also heard that, the United Nations, which is headquartered in New York City, that portion of New York City is not owned by The United States Of America. It is its own separate country within,
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The United States that was given to the United Nations. Do you know what the where the land came from?
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Educate me.
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Rockefellers donated it. It was formerly the slaughterhouse that all all the animals were slaughtered for New York City. Yeah. Doesn't surprise me. Nice little all of them. Nice little patch of dirt. Okay, George.
[02:16:31] Unknown:
You got you got a comment? Right. There's yeah. The the, well, the and it was interesting. Is there there was a Georgia Sales who had done a lot of research of the, separation of the circuit court from the parliament over I don't know if he's in relation to you.
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But how do you spell his name? Bill how do you spell his name? That's the indicator. Is there a y in it? S a
[02:16:55] Unknown:
yeah. S a y l e s. We're related somehow. A dogget researcher. Yeah. He, spent fifteen years, three months a year, fifteen years, tearing apart the old timey, British documents that showed when the king went took his took his circuit and went around and made judgments and stuff. So it's pretty interesting. Yeah. Well, we've been raising hell for a long time, haven't we? Yeah. And how the canon law the church really you know, a lot of people think the that the king said all the law, but it actually was the church that they adopted a lot of the what was already there from the Romans and from the from the Roman church later. But the the king did have the last call on a lot of the law, but it was really interesting because they were the, like, there's a lot of philosophy even from, Cook and Blackstone that everything had originated, you know, within the within the king. But a lot of it had been, you know, adapted from the Roman and from the from the other, laws that were there. But, but, yeah, the, thing that I came across, which I used to think a lot about, the birth certificate being kind of the substitute for the baptismal certificate, but there was also something that's called the settlement certificate. And I didn't know if you guys had done any research on that because supposedly I never heard of it. Her popper on the passport is actually, originates from that settlement certificate.
So,
[02:18:26] Unknown:
that was from the eighteenth. Never even heard of it, George. Have you ever heard of it, Brent? A settlement certificate?
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No. Uh-uh.
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So what happened was, beginning in 1773 with the Enclosure Act, and then the Enclosure Consolidation Act of eighteen o one, English parliament effectively privatized massive amounts of common land for the benefit of a few, causing huge numbers of land peasants to become landless paupers. And I was kind of reminiscent of, you know, Social Security Act and becoming landless as far as the gold coming from the land, you know, and then coming up with this insurance scheme called Social Security, which gave everybody a banking number. And then, of course, you know, the Federal Reserve had been even planned back in the late eighteen hundreds, you know, after the banking act of 1864. It just didn't come about magically in 1913 or whatever. So, anyway, if you look up settlement certificates, quite interesting, and I'd be curious what your research would show and how it,
[02:19:26] Unknown:
is probably related to our birth certificate more so than the baptismal certificate maybe, but I yield. Well, you know, what I like to do is take real curious students in these kind of obscure issues and say, why don't you go off and do the research and come back and give us a little thumbnail book report? So, anyway, don't know I've never heard that document. I I know that that I believe that one of the purposes like they do duality stuff to all through this plan, a colloquial definition, a technical definition. And that they're Yeah. Using that document in one respect as an ID document of your birth. And underneath that, they're fraudulently using it as a warehouse receipt. Brent, sorry to interrupt. Go ahead.
Oh, I don't I didn't remember I was saying anything. Oh, I thought some I thought that was usually was somebody saying something?
[02:20:17] Unknown:
I was just gonna give you the, the blog. This is escapeesblog.wordpress.com, and that's where you can find this research that I'm just speaking about. So yeah.
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Okay. Thank you.
[02:20:29] Unknown:
You bet.
[02:20:30] Unknown:
Alright. Who else? You got anything here? My stomach is starting to growl like a little a a little bunch of kittens or puppies. Yeah. So, Brent, nothing nothing from your side? Oh, and I again,
[02:20:47] Unknown:
thank everybody for their participation and, their comments and questions. It stimulates Mhmm. A lot of thought. And,
[02:20:58] Unknown:
thank you, Roger, and Marco too. But I We, we got a hell of a brain trust here. It's interesting to bring these issues into the brain trust and see how, from different people what their conclusions might be. Anyway, Brent, you be safe. And it sounds like you're off driving around traveling again. Uh-huh. So be safe, and, we'll, look for you next week. And and always a pleasure.
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Thank you, Roger. Likewise, we'll be talking. Alright, Brent. Be careful.
[02:21:27] Unknown:
Right. We are very fortunate audience to have someone of mister Winter's accomplishments with us on such a regular basis for so long. So, anybody else got anything for me? I'm gonna consider that a no, and I will, see y'all back here at the Old Ranch in the morning about the same time. And, Paul, have a good day. I hope to get all your technical stuff straight. What I was gonna say a minute ago sorry. Brent left. One day when I think it was on Paul on the show or when I was talking to him or something. And he said, you know, as I look back over the history of London, I see that the country was run-in a much more organized fashion when the Catholic church was in charge.
Uh-huh. I thought that was pretty interesting comment, Paul. Oh, you haven't got left yet. Good. I'm glad you got to hear that.
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And Chicago was more, more in order when Capone was in charge too, by the way. There you go. There you go. And and and Las Vegas and Reno, were more in order when the mob ran them before the nineteen eighties.
[02:22:43] Unknown:
Yeah. They could snap it up pretty quick. So, get you straightened out real quick or horizontal. Yes, sir?
[02:22:52] Unknown:
Before Brent goes, I just wanna ask him a quick question. Maybe he could answer it next show. But there's a lot of there's a lot of students that seem to believe that the United States government the United States federal government is a corporation. I've even heard I think on your on the radio ranch, a student maybe a year ago or whatever, somebody said that they found evidence that The United States Government is bankrupt, and it's it they filed some type of bankruptcy filing, and it's in a it's in a, filing cabinet somewhere in Florida. And, you know, when I asked AI that question, of course, AI didn't know anything about that. And then if you ask AI, you know, is the federal government a corporation, it says no. It's a body politic.
And, you know, it's it's, established because of the constitution. And, and a lot of students, they seem to believe that the federal government is a corporation based on there's one code in the US code at 28 United States code paragraph three zero zero two fifteen in parentheses. United States means a federal corporation. That's a, b, an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of The United States, or c, an instrumentality of The United States. And, so based on my research, what a federal corporation is would an example of that would be the United States Postal Service is a corporation. That's a federal corporation. The FDIC that that, you know, banks have, that's a federal corporation.
You know, things like that are what's known as a federal corporation. The United States government has, authority or oversight over these federal corporations. And I was wondering if Brent agrees with that analysis.
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Hey, Larry.
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Can you let's see if Brent can answer the question, Julie. Yeah. Brent what because he was gonna go here. Brent, do you got any response to that, or you wanna deal with it later?
[02:25:11] Unknown:
Well, I think I was talking I was talking, and the mic was off. So, yeah, I do wanna respond to that. And, it's important. None of that is true. None of it. For a couple of reasons. Just fundamental reason. You have to do a lot of research to figure this out. Number one, does the government of the United States own anything? Is legal title to any real estate or equipment in the United States government? That's the first question. Obviously, yes. Obviously. Yes. What about your state government? Does your state government hold legal title to any land or buildings or equipment? Obviously. Yes. In the name of your state government.
Well, how can that be possible? There are only two ways in our common law tradition and really in reality for anybody to say they own anything. You either gotta be a hot headed person. When I say hothead, I mean, a live body, a real man or woman. They can hold prop, legal title to property, or the only other option is a corporate entity that the state has created, like a corporation, an LLC, an LLP. All of those are creations of, government, of the sovereign the sovereign. That's number one. So, obviously, obviously, all governments have always been corporations.
You can't have a government that's not incorporated, and they don't even have to do anything to be incorporated. The courts will always recognize there's a corporate reality to government. Period. So don't get off this is my advice for what it's worth. Don't get off and talking about, well, the government is incorporated. How terrible? No. No. No. No. No. They are a corporation. You can't have a government unless they are. That's number one. Number two number two, the bankruptcy, the government of the United States cannot be officially in bankruptcy. That's impossible as a matter of law. Why? Because the government of the United States is a sovereign, just like your state government.
They can't take bankruptcy. Number two, they are the ones that have the only exclusive jurisdiction in our country to, allow bankruptcy. That's the general government of the United States. Our constitution of The United States gives exclusive bankruptcy jurisdiction to the what we call the federal government. State governments have no jurisdiction over bankruptcy, and the federal government cannot declare itself bankruptcy as a matter of law. And if there are no filings that are public, it's not true. Of course, even if there was a filing that was public that the United States government is bankrupt, it would be invalid.
That's, as a matter of law, impossible. Are are they bankrupt, in in as a matter of common sense? Well, I hear tell they are, but I don't care one way or the other. I don't owe that money. It's all it's all smoke and mirrors. It's all a sham. I used to say that. I ran for congress. So forget it. And we say, oh, they declared bankruptcy and talking about the declaration of what we know, the Gettysburg Address. The Gettysburg Address didn't has no evidence of any intent to incorporate anything. Read it short. It's real easy to read. Yep. No evidence at all or to establish a trust and without intent to establish by expression of words. None of those things happen again as a matter of law.
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We're overthinking ourselves here. I agree. Hope a %.
[02:28:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Get get off of the minutia and get to the fundamentals. In our common law tradition, a Christian man or woman operates his life according to a few fundamental first principles. And anything that doesn't conform to those, you throw it out of your thinking. Life's too short. All that minutia that we talk about is a waste of our time. But, again, I I speak with conviction, but I hasten to add that I appreciate everybody who brings those things up because we all need to discuss it, and it give me an opportunity to say my piece. And I enjoy very much being able to do that here, and I can do that because of you. So I don't demean anybody for saying whatever they've said. I just get my chance to weigh in, and I appreciate that. And I'm weighing it in and giving you my personal heartfelt deep conviction testimonies, and I call it Patriot Mythology. It has overrun otherwise right headed people. And the devil himself is behind it all, and he wants you distracted from from the what Jesus Christ calls the weightier matters of the law. Right. The weightier matters. That's what governs everything. And going out here, John, I've gotta say one more thing right here. John the baptizer came and he said, I'm fed up. He said, it's time that we laid the axe to the root of the poisonous tree. Yep. We've been hacking around the branches and the leaves and fiddling around like a bunch of goofuses on things that don't matter and don't control anything. Yep.
All scattered fires but end in smoke and noise. The scorn of men, the idle play of boys. If we would win our power, we or win win the day with power, we must frame points of support and look with steady aim, attack their weak points, defend your strong with heart. But watch this. Strike but few blows, but strike them to the heart. Amen. Heart. Don't play with all this patriot mythology minutiae. It's the devil's way of getting off of things that will control everything.
[02:30:40] Unknown:
Back to you, Roger. Well, I just wanna say that I I understand the curiosity of people seeing that and being curious like a cat. Mhmm. But the question, any of these the the the the demarcation line is what effect does it have on what we teach and the successes we've had here? Does that have any effect or potential effect on what we do? And if it doesn't, I really yeah. We'll just talk about it. It could be interesting, but I agree with Brent. It's all all that I've ever found is patriot mythology. People looking for what we've got here. Yes. Who's trying to say something?
[02:31:14] Unknown:
Oh, printing money. I mean, down in Brazil, I could get $5.80 for my dollar. You know? So but the pressure of inflation is worldwide monetary system.
[02:31:25] Unknown:
Which can't help but be. Which we In any debt in any debt based We talk about in any group. Yeah. So how do we address the crux? So this is a way
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if we can use this trust in a way and use this, piece this piece treaty certificate in a way. I think it's it's valuable to everybody who's not a, you know, retired or fixed income in a in a country where you're getting $5.80 for your dollar. You know? So that's why I'm not trying to be, pedantic about it. I'm just saying this is reality. We have grandchildren and children that are gonna be trying to form families as well. Now they can get on the record basis. No. I get it. There is no trust. You know what I'm saying? So we got No. Yeah. Yeah. There is a trust. I mean, there's total. There's there's a there's a there's a huge treaty, I think, that they There is no they had to do. They had to after the after the after the confederate war and the war between the states, they had to do a peace treaty of some sort for the people. And and the evidence of that is the fourteenth amendment as well as the thirteenth amendment. No. There was no peace treaty. There was no peace treaty. There was a surrender?
[02:32:25] Unknown:
Yeah. There was a surrender, but there was never a declaration of war. We never declared our enemy. And if you don't have a declaration of war, there is no, as a matter of law, gonna be a peace peace treaty, and there wasn't. It was just total annihilation and subdue subduction of the South. And then Lincoln, of course, he wanna just let things go back to normal as did his vice president. So they shot Lincoln, and then they threw the other one, tried to throw him and peach him, throw him out of office. Andrew Johnson from East Tennessee. But all of this is just patriot mythology. That's what I'm telling you. What was that war? It was a bloody, dirty, rotten, low down mess on both sides. I don't justify anybody. There was it was wrong from the jump. It was nothing but slaughter and murder for no reason at all. It should've never happened, but it did. And the South was a stupid or more stupid than the North. They should have known. Bottom line, you don't pull a gun on somebody that's got the drop on you. And they pulled a gun on somebody that had the drop on you on them before they ever started. The war was over before it ever started. They did not have the wherewithal to fight it. And as Jesus Christ said, you don't do that kind of stuff. You lay out the plan first. They never did that either. So the South has been annihilated all these years. We've all paid for it. The North was annihilated.
700,000 dead men almost for nothing.
[02:33:44] Unknown:
Nothing but more hell and more trouble. That's all it was, and we've never gotten over it. I've got a unique thesis for any of it. What's that? I've got a unique thesis, Brent. I've come to the conclusion that the civil war was started to get these two amendments in the constitution so they could control The US with it eighty years later. And through The US and the dollar, being the world reserve currency, the world through it because that's the way the whole thing operates. And I can't believe that all just
[02:34:12] Unknown:
by chance happened. I think the devil did that, but I don't anybody involved had the wherewithal, the foresight to see that, but I think the devil did orchestrate it. I get that. I'm with you. He orchestrates. The Bible says he orchestrates all wars for that reason. Yeah. Bloodshed, stealing, death, and murder, and it destroys. That's what he wants to do. And I want to say something else. Yeah. The South could've won the war with the Battle of Manassas, the first war of the civil war. They could've walked into Washington DC. The federal Northern army wasn't even formed yet, and it was,
[02:34:44] Unknown:
the the little Jew, Dumehatchee's pet Jew, that told the the that told the army back. That's why the southern generals hated, and I I can't believe his name escapes me. The guy from Louisiana. Judah p Benjamin. Judah p Benjamin. Yeah. Thank you very much. Judah p Benjamin. So For all of that. He died as the queen's head barrister. Right?
[02:35:10] Unknown:
But all of that has no legal force anymore. No. I mean, it's just interesting history. No. The fourteenth amendment even is over. That when when the purpose for that was over, the fourteenth amendment had no more force, and it doesn't. And all of the civil rights that act laid dormant and slept for almost a hundred years because they had no force. They were falsely resurrected. Get this. The first the first nationwide injunction was issued by a federal court in 1963. That's unlawful. Why did they do it? Well, they were they were doing things that were unlawful because they had an unlawful purpose. And with the civil rights act as as the the parliamentarian said over there a long time ago, necessity is the plea of every infringement of human liberty. Yep. Oh, we must. We must, have this white injunction because we gotta put all these black people back to where they will have the freedom, but it never happened. Yep. They're abused more today than they are. They've been politically used and abused and prostituted since the Democrats started doing it under Johnson about 1963 when that started.
[02:36:17] Unknown:
It's just abusing the black man. Trump's Trump's talking about rolling all all the way back to there.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm seeing you're aware of. I I'm go ahead. Somebody said something. What was it? Go ahead.
[02:36:31] Unknown:
Speaking of the fourteenth amendment, do you believe it was properly ratified? Because there's a congressional record that says it was never there there's a lot of congresspeople. This took place, I guess, back in the, the maybe the eighties or so. And that's on the congressional record that the there's a lot of congressmen
[02:36:52] Unknown:
didn't believe on the It it was put in the congressional record by a Louisiana house member named John Rarick, r a r I c k. And I'm sure more than likely, he was a John Birch Society member, and it's been in there, I think, since the sixties.
[02:37:11] Unknown:
It's been there a while. I've read the familiar with it. I read the material. It seems highly likely that it wasn't properly ratified, but neither were the other amendments around that time. But the reality is the reality is its purpose is expended. Let me give you an example from the bible. Maybe it helps somebody. The priesthood of Levi had a purpose. It was to look forward to the coming of the Messiah. The Messiah has come. That purpose is no longer there. So the priesthood of Levi is over because it no longer has the purpose. It's in the Bible. Yes. But it was there for a time for a very special purpose. The book of Hebrews explains all that. That's true in our system of law. Once the reason for legislation no longer exist, the legislation has no more force. It's over.
And the fourteenth amendment was put in place for slaves that had been freed. And all of those slaves that have been freed are dead. They're gone. The purpose is over. That's normal law. That's happened in our country a lot on the state level, the federal level, and, it should be applied here. And let's get back to just being Americans and cut the stupidity And giving people special our our preamble to our constitution says that we the the welfare of the general government in Washington DC is to be general. That's why we call it the general government. That means it applies to everybody equally. Any welfare that comes out and targets the man that has a a skin tone that's a different color than mine is ipso facto by law unconstitutional.
And that's what Trump is saying now. Let's get out of this stupidity. It's torn our country apart. It's all race baiting. It's all greed. It's all Divide and conquer. Yeah. In in in a cold case, envy and hatred and the law god didn't allow it. God didn't allow it in the bible. God says everybody within the territorial boundaries of a a nation is under one law, ehad, one, oneness. And if you do anything different, it will come to chaos, death, despair, and trouble beyond anything you could imagine. Yeah. We've had that experience here in some cases. They've had it in Europe. You can look at the examples of it. It doesn't work. Why doesn't it work? God said it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna work. The Bible's clear. Why don't we read the book? And just say, wait a minute. This doesn't work. By the way, we can look at history and see that it did not work. So why are we trying it again? And, again, we keep building our cans our our our sandcastles on the beach.
And the inundating tides of reality come every tide and wash them back out to sea again. And then we say, oh, let's let's do let's think about what nobody ever thought about before and try it again and be stupid and waste our time and our money and our lives. Yeah. Why don't we just turn the law turn the laws of nature? But if we just try it one more time, then modernism will work this time if we can try it. And I start to call that stupid, but go ahead. What is it?
[02:40:09] Unknown:
All scratch these programs in in the three hour shows. Go ahead.
[02:40:16] Unknown:
Follow-up question to what you how to to your response when I asked the question about is the US government a federal corporation, and you said that is to saw the federal government is a is a sovereign and also on a past show, you mentioned that when you're describing the case with the Indian that there's two sovereigns that were kind of kind of butting heads, the state and the federal government. And, you know, of course, the people I've heard the people are the sovereign. So how do you how do you, explain that that relationship?
[02:40:54] Unknown:
The people created the federal and the state governments. Right? So it's the people that are the sovereign and yet you use the word sovereign to describe two entities that were created by the people. Can you explain all that, please? Yeah. Well, thanks for asking. And it is it is a fiction. It's all a fiction. We call it a fiction of law. It's something we say that's true that ain't, but it works. It's something that's we say is true, but it ain't true, and it works. That's our common law tradition. Our common law tradition is about fact, not logic. And you're asking me, of course, that we'd like this we like things to make sense logically, but if they're fact, it doesn't make any difference whether they do or not. For example, let me give you another example, freedom of religion and, all that. We have it in the first amendment, two clauses.
The free exercise clause is one of them. And we say, well, we can have government, the sovereign government, the the federal government that enforces all this, and there is no religion there. That's a fiction. It's not possible to have a government without religion because it's not possible to have a government without law. And therefore, you gotta have a law giver who's the ultimate law giver, who's the final arbiter of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. Do we have that? Yes. We have that down here on land.
We have the true sovereign. Sovereignty, we we call it limited sovereignty down here on land. That's a fiction too. Sovereignty is an absolute. There's no such thing as limited sovereignty. But because we don't know how else to describe it, we say within this jurisdiction, this realm down here on land, men right now have the power to create sovereign governments from whose decision there is no appeal except to heaven. Because god himself is the sovereign of all creation, heaven and earth, sky and land. But down here on earth, he's delegated this sovereignty to us within our realm. So these are fictions. No question. There's not a a country in the world that's ever tried to do what we're doing. Matter of fact, all the countries of the world said about The United States, you can't have dual sovereignty. You can't have sovereignties of states and then sovereignty of a general government and then sovereignties of 50 competing states all in one country. That's not possible. Sovereignty is an absolute. There must be one sovereign. Even the Englishman said that. You gotta have one sovereign or it won't work.
Well, we're not trying to be logical. We got 51 sovereigns, 51, 50 states and the general government, and it's working. And we have more freedom and more prosperity than any country in the history of Adam's race. Yeah. Why? Because it works. That's why I say logic is not the governing thing here. And we want to have everything explained and everything wired. I'll tell you who wants to have everything wired, and that's false religion. False religion is not content with fact. There are things that I just said to somebody the other day. I said, I can think of two things I know are absolutely true, and I know that nobody has ever been able to explain how. One of them is gravity. Whole lot of theories, but nobody knows how it works. And the other thing, I could think more than this, but another one is the germination of of corn kernels.
I can take corn kernels that have been dead for a number of years, put them in the ground. Why the ground? A little bit of moisture, and and all of a sudden, what is dead comes the lot comes to life and produces a lot of corn kernels. Mhmm. Jesus Christ uses that same analogy. He says, in order for the resurrection of man to happen, he has to die. Well, now die means die. That means dead. You're dead. How does only God, according to the Bible, has the power and the authority to spontaneously produce life out of what is dead. And he does so. He does so with every seed that's planted in the ground, the bible says, and he he's gonna he did so in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and he's gonna do so with us. And the evidence that that was in the ark of the covenant preserved as evidence there was the the the almond branch that budded spontaneously. It was cut off of the tree. It was dead and nothing left in it, and it budded and grew. God can do that because God is the author and the source of all life. He can put it where he wants, and he can take it when he wants. He who has the power to give has the power to take. You're asking me to explain. For example, I gave a lecture last night on trust.
I'm telling it to a group of people. And, I've made the point that it's not all logical. Matter of fact, one trust treatise I have, professor from a university in Suffolk there, he starts out the treatise, a long treatise on trust, and he says the doctrines of the trust are as mysterious to most people, including lawyers, as is the doctrine of the trinity. The these doctrines that I'm talking about are not contradictions, but they're not something we can explain. The doctrine of what we call the trinity is not in any sense a contradiction according to the laws of logic, but it is something we can't explain.
Contradiction is a contradiction. Two things that can't be can't be true, cannot be true at the same time and in the same relationship. Well, the trinity doesn't fit that. The deity of the three persons of the godhead do not fit that contradiction, that contradiction requirement, as do a lot of other things. Our common law is like that. These are not contradictions, but these are things that man cannot sufficiently explain using his puny brain. God could explain them. He's explained a lot of things, but he has chosen not to explain everything. Fact is what governs in our common law culture, not theory, not scholasticism, not logic. And as Merriman, professor at Bull Hall, once said, a comparative lawyer, he said, where where, logic and reason, are stressed, fact has a way of receding from consideration.
That's fact. All of the world Blackstone made this point in his commentaries. The whole law of the city tradition of every country in the world is upside down. The canon laws of the church of Rome, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and all the rest of the countries of the world are under that same fundamental code of Justinian, and all of them start with logic. You can't start with it. I mean, anybody who studied logic a little bit knows you got to have a fact that is self evident or logic won't get you to the truth. You have to start with fact. And the discernment of fact is the most important thing that anybody can do. Don't worry about the logic. You can do the logic. Anybody can do the logic. I said that a while ago, I think. That's the way god made us. We think. That's what differentiates us. Where is that coming from? Yo. Yo. Who's got the feedback? Yeah. Feedback.
So, you're saying, well, how do you explain sovereignty? Let me get back you have dual sovereignty. Sovereignty is an absolute. It doesn't admit of any other sovereignties. But we have this fiction that god has allowed to us of, multiple sovereign sovereignties down here on land called nations. And what sovereignty means is that a sovereign answers to no other power, as we say, an a sovereign nation answers to no other power down here on land. My father was in the he was in the South Pacific during the war, and he met these two fellows from Britain. And they were serving in the US military forces, as sailors, to try to get their citizenship.
And they had been merchant mariners before that. And this poem, and I I need to memorize it better, but it talks about the sea. And it says the sea in time takes everything down. It retains what it keeps and returns what is found. There is no power this is what I was getting to. There is no power it's been known to obey, except the power that saved Peter when he looked away. Now those of you that went to Sunday school will know what that means. The point he was making is the sea as and, obeys no one. But we discover from the testimony of the affidavits of the bible that the sea obeys the voice of Jesus Christ. There is no power that's been known to obey except the power that saved Peter when he looked away. And this is the power that every hour watches over the mariner in the perilous hour.
No favors to buy, no patience to try, no no fault can be laid at at its feet. The sea is not sovereign. The sea is sovereign down here on land. That's why admiralty jurisdiction is important. When you go to sea, you're under a different jurisdiction according to god. You're not under the common law anymore. It's too dangerous out there, and there is no power that the oceans have been known to obey except the power that saved Peter when he looked away. But down here on land, the oceans do what they wanna do. They operate according to the laws of nature. That's what we need to know.
We do want to explain things, but let's not put logic first. I'm and I'm not saying you are. And, again, I I I speak forthrightly and with force, but I don't want to dishonor and demean men that are being respectful, and all of you, today are. And so I say this with all due respect and as an admonition to Christian brethren and sistren, as we say, put fact first, my friends, not logic.
[02:50:34] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. I better go and thank you all for your comments. I got a luncheon engagement now. I gotta go. Gotta go. Kids will be back tomorrow. Love each and every one of you. I'm sure this could go on for hours, but we can't. So, we'll see you tomorrow. Brent, be careful out there, Benny. You, Roger. Bye. Alright. Gang, love you. See you tomorrow. Ciao. Blessings, Roger.
[02:51:23] Unknown:
Boy, he just doesn't take very long to check out, does he? Alright. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and Brent Allen Winters, the Friday edition. Catch us Saturday for the Sabado edition, 11AM central tomorrow. That would be, May 3, May '3 '20 '20 '5. Thanks for joining us. For more information on the topics discussed, go to the matrixdocs.com. You will find links to our radio streams, our archives, downloadables, exhibits, interviews. You will find it all right there. Thanks for joining us. Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:52:14] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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