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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sales welcomes back John Kasarab for the Monday edition. The discussion kicks off with updates on the fires in California, with John sharing firsthand experiences and insights into the situation. The conversation touches on various topics, including the role of smart meters in the fires, the influence of political figures like Gavin Newsom, and the broader implications of these events on property rights and governance.

Roger and John delve into the importance of educating the public about their rights and the legal system, emphasizing the need for grassroots movements to challenge the status quo. They discuss the potential for counties to secede and the power of grand juries as tools for the people.

The episode also features a segment on the Iteracare terahertz frequency wand, highlighting its potential health benefits. The conversation shifts to the importance of being prepared for emergencies, with recommendations for resources like the Navy SEALs bug-in guide and the book Al Qaeda 2.0.

Listeners are encouraged to engage with the Radio Ranch community, with opportunities to join live discussions and connect with like-minded individuals across the country. The episode wraps up with a call to action for listeners to educate themselves and take proactive steps in asserting their rights and freedoms.

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Well, there you go.   Here we go. And it is the Monday edition. Monday Monday. Can't trust that day. We'll see,   date stamped 1 January   13th   for the Monday edition here.   Roger Sales, your host. Radio Ranch, the   label of our get together. And as is   usually our habit on Mondays, we have our old friend John Kasarab with us here this morning. He couldn't make it   last week, and he's been not in the middle, but on the periphery of all these fires out there.   And, so, we got a hold of him last week, made sure he was alright. And,   we're gonna get some of his firsthand stuff here and probably discuss that a bit,   as it's very topical.  

So, welcome back, John. Glad to have you, of course. Yeah. Thank you. Glad to be here. Yeah. And, Paul, at this point   of the of the week and the day,   comes out and harrow some thanks our, partners that are helping us extend our reach around the world.   So, Paul good morning, Paul. Happy new week. And,   would you come forward and see if we could get those folks proper credit, please?  

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I can do that.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm working.   There we go.   I'm I'm having problems with my with my primary control computer here, so I have another computer sitting at waiting in the wings. They're they're both ready   in case I have a a hiccup. So,   that's my  

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your cost of air. I thought you were talking about your brain. I was gonna say, why don't you, you know, take a toke now and have to computer that's an extension of his brain.  

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Yeah.   Something like that.   We are on a,   a veritable plethora   of plethora.   That's easy for you to say.   Plethora of platforms,   including   106.9   WBOU   FM in Chicago.   We're on home network dot TV and freedom nation dot TV, go live TV, and stream life dot tube.   Those platforms,   those 5 platforms are brought to us   through the NET family of broadcast services next to WDRN   Productions,   Fort Collins, Colorado.   We,   are not today, but tomorrow, we'll be on Radio Soapbox for the first hour, radiosoapbox.com.   Thanks to our buddy, Paul,   over yonder across the pond bondage, whatever.  

Pondage. Poundage. Poundage. Yeah. British. It's   it's delightfully British. Definitely.   We're also on Eurofolc Radio.com. That, of course, is our flagship station, thanks to pastor Eli James,   and we are on Global Voice Radio Network, thanks to Podholme.   And   that stream has started, but   it it was a little,   it was a little   ungraceful   this morning.  

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Podhome was?  

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Yeah. Pod home was I didn't hit the right button, so I didn't hit the buttons in the right order. You know? Uh-huh. So it wasn't them. It was you.   No. It was me. Tons of buttons to push, like, 9 buttons to push within the within the 60 seconds prior to the start of the show. And sometimes,  

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you know, I get this practice. Sequencing. Yes. Yes. You know the old saying when one finger's pointed out, there's 3 pointed back at you. Have you ever heard that before? Oh my god.  

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I have no idea how many Yeah. How many mouse clicks are pointed at me.  

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Oh, man.   Okay. So, we'll start the week here.   Gosh. It's ugly out there.   Don't don't want  

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But don't forget our our website, the matrix stocks dot com, where you can also find a free conference call link and join us live on the show, particularly if you have a live   update   from the western  

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coast of the United States. Or if you got a question, even if you're new, you know, the show's for new people, really. I mean, everybody hangs around because we like learning the material, and you get different things out of it the longer you immerse yourself in it and all of those types of things. But, really,   the the show is for, well, not only necessarily new people. Even some folks have been around for a while. All of a sudden, these questions   pop up, and it's a extremely   confusing,   area field, if you will,   of,   of landmines,   verbal landmines. And,   so we're here to help people walk their way through it. So, a, they   get they learn and and and understand, and then the people that are all listening and learning and get exposed to it even though that might not have been their question.  

And,   drill practice rehearse is the way you learn and only way we learn, and you get you get repetition. So that's what we do. Now if there's no folks like that around here, we discuss   other things,   probably that pertain to what we do mainly of getting   folks out of this, this little demon devil system.   So Right. Like I yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes, Paul.  

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I'm just trying to get in there. I just just wanna,   I I wanna express my gratitude to everybody that calls in. We have a 1,000 seats,   in free conference call, and we have,   literally dozens of people that call us and join us for the show. So we're uniquely suited. We're in a unique position where we actually have boots boots on the ground in numerous states across the country. Something's happening. We usually have somebody pretty close to it with a finger on the pulse. Yeah. And and that's amazing. That's awesome. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I think, you know, the next immediate   or immediate goal is to try and get enough folks on board where we can maybe even start having regional meetings or,   meetings in states like we've been trying to get in. Well, there might be a little extra elbow room in Southern California these days. Who know? I don't know if we can find a venue to meet at, but that's been kicked around for a while.   John was talking right before the show went on the air. We could just,   segue over to that, John. And you're involved in a Sunday,   meeting every week out there.  

And, you were saying that they had a limited amount of people that I'm surprised you even had a meeting,   this past Sunday, but you did evidently. Why don't you tell us about it?  

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Yeah. Well, we do have a meeting every week, and the problem we have is finding competent speakers,   local. So we have had to go to remote,   interviews,   which we connect by phone or by Zoom.   And then the people locally,   interact with them as well as people anywhere in the country can interact with them.  

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John, why have you set us up to   is that moved a little bit? You ought to set us up over there to talk to the good folks. Oh, that'd be great. Love to do it. Okay. Well, you They know we are, you know, because Natasha well, that's where I met Natasha.  

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Oh, really? She didn't know about you, and I I got her reading your book. And then she started reading your book and couldn't quit reading your book. Yeah. And then She took a deep dive, and and Natasha  

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has a   I know Nancy. Nancy wrote me. She said, Natasha's alright. Well, I know because I know Natasha lives pretty close to downtown LA there. How do I know that? Because she's 2 blocks away from the Federal Book Depository.   From those of you who may not know what that is, it's a law library   that has all of the old paperwork and and stuff in it.   It's called the Federal Book Depository.   They're scattered around the country,   and,   nostalgia lives 2 blocks from 1. And I know they don't put those things up in, like, Pacific Palisades.   They stick them in the concrete jungle. So I knew that nostalgia was fine,   and, but I had concerns about some of you out there.  

We got a new California guy, John, Chris, who's been on a couple of times. I don't know if he's with us or not today. Hope he is.   And, then, of course, the little the little well, I initially labeled her firecracker, but I've come to understand she's an m eighty, And that's miss Julie, and I'm assuming she's with us today too.   And,   so we got some new good lifeblood here.   Real good students, solid students,   with areas of reach, both of them, areas of influence,   I guess you could   say. Yeah. So, anyway, what happened at the, at the meeting yesterday, John?  

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Well, we had,   a a lady by the name of Michelle Melendez.   She lives in Hawaii, and she's been   her family's been around the United States and in Hawaii for, oh, 50 years or so. She lives on the big island. She wrote a book called The Great Maori   Land Land Grab Uh-huh.   And has really done a deep dive on all of the anomalies   surrounding that thing and who's involved in in   a thing. It's in the 2nd edition now, and she's got enough material to start a 3rd edition of this thing.  

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Well,   they got   they elected a physician, a Jewish guy named Green as the governor cup term or 2 ago. Do you know are you aware of that? No. I have not been following it very closely. Well, the reason that I know a little bit about it is because we had a gal, a Jewish gal that was came down here and was looking at Ecuador to live, and she ended up going back to Hawaii. And she told us about Green, and she said he used to be in our crowd out there. And then he got turned around totally and got in with the globalist. And after that, he got elected   governor, and then you had line.  

Now I also heard just this morning that he's advising your wonderful governor there, mister Gavin Newsom,   on things like, land stuff,   who buyers of land and things like that. So   they're thick as thieves, man. Alright.  

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Yep. Raj?   Are you familiar with the YouTube channel God Rules?   No.   They had,   an interesting,   interesting video,   that I came across. The channel is God Rules. It's the LA situation is only getting crazier.   They have strange things happening with loud booms and things like that. But, there's also stuff coming out of,   Newsom's office, and I think this is particularly well suited to plant here because of what you just brought up. Check this out.  

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And, also, very strangely, we have this   in from Gavin Newsom, and it announces a sweeping plan to rebuild   Los Angeles. I think this is a little early, isn't it? A little early to be talking about bit rebuilding Los Angeles.   We're still in the midst of it happening, all these things.   LA is still there from what I understand.   There's sections of it that have been affected, but, I mean,   why is he already talking about rebuilding LA? Let's play this clip here.   Very strange.  

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With all of that,   and all that opportunity and that pride and spirit that comes from not just hosting those 3 iconic games and venues,   but also the opportunity, I think, to rebuild at the same time. And that's why we're already organizing   a Marshall Plan. We already have a team of looking and reimagining   LA 2 point o, and we're making sure everyone's included, not just the folks on the coast,   people here, that were ravaged by this.  

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So he's talking about LA 2.0. And he goes oh, that's pretty clever how he said that. Not just the ones on the coastline here,   but also the rest of LA. Almost like he's acting as if the rest of LA should be fine.   We just saw that other clip from this guy before him,   which indicates it's not looking too good.   I'm very curious. Why is he talking about   smart,   you know, LA   2.0   ahead of the Olympics   already. Why is he talking about this?  

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Because it's only 3 years away is one reason. Well, I have the answer. I think they got the time to do that.  

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I have the answer. Newsom reveals.  

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One second, John. Newsom reveals he's already mobilizing city officials, civic influencers, powerful business moguls,   and labor unions to execute his vision   of smart LA 2028.   Puke.   Just a bunch of Bandidos. Like a fantasy from the World Economic Forum.   Uh-huh.   John Go ahead, John.  

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The   lady, Michelle,   her her 2.0 and now 3.0,   she her main point on her discussion was what's the what is the, relationship between Maui and the fires in Los Angeles?   And it's exactly that.   There's they have no intention of   giving you back control of your property. No. No.   That's it's   and and and all of the anomalies that are surrounding   that she's finding even more and more and more, and she went through just tons of them,   are happening here. I mean, that's why I brought up this satellite picture that I was talking about where you can see all 3 major fires   start simultaneously.  



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They absolutely Canada last year.  

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You know, they were all separate. All the major fires, the first three, you know, the Altadena, the Palisades, and the and there's another one.   All 3 on the satellite. You see a little bit of smoke, then all of a sudden there's more smoke and then all of a sudden it explodes.   There's no question about this thing being planned and   when you take a look at the way the water management's been going on here   California for years years years. I mean, back even when when RBN was talking about all this stuff all the time because that little smelt and even with,   Prince Charles owning an electric company that needed water, they had to take the water away from the farmers to keep his,   electric company going.  

She's she's documenting all this stuff, and she's   talking about how they're even doing it, the technology that's involved that they've discovered.   And it's it's absolutely,   mind blowing   where they're coming with all this stuff. I mean, it's   it's it's just stuff you wouldn't   normally think about that would be  

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Some of these are coming from smart meters.   And I just saw I was watching Harrison's show this morning. Hold on, Dave.   I was watching Harrison's show this morning,   which should be a second hour. I guess you can go back and look at this yourself.   I was a gal doing a report   on houses that   that weren't affected and then another house on the same property behind that that has smart meter burned to the ground.   Did you know that every smart meter has a lithium ion battery in it?  

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I don't know anything about them. I just know the lithium.  

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Lithium is like the battery in the cars   where the the whole parking lot burned up because one of those car batteries exploded. They're highly amiable.  

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Talk about your cell phone.   May  

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I may I run her? Yeah. You can. Just hold on a minute. And so that was,   kinda startling to me. She had the actual video there.   But,   she Harrison went over some of   the the degrees and the things that are happening there. I couldn't remember them all. But, anyway alright. Hold on, Julie. Dave was first. Dave, what do you got?  

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Good morning, everybody. So I was listening to Paul Preston this morning.   Agenda 21 radio, the new California guy.   And Right. He played a clip. He played a clip, and it was it was, you know,   well,   I mean, it was quite a while. How long it was and it was all about that,   smart LA   28.   Yep. Yeah. It it's it's all about technocracy   and Of course. With, you know, this technology makes us smarter   and the it's the, you know, the new,   new California. That's where they're going. And this is You know what? It's exactly  

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about.   You know what 28 is, don't you?  

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Yes. That's the Olympics and World Cup Soccer. They're gonna build a megaplex   for those arenas, and then they're gonna build the 15 minute smart city around it.  

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Well, wouldn't surprise me. Okay, Julie.  

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Yeah. So hi, everybody. Good morning.   The smart meters, you are correct. They have lithium ion batteries in them, and by the way, I know Michelle, Melendez, I've spoken to her over the phone several times.   When those batteries catch fire,   they have what's called thermal runway   where they will literally go from a 100 and 40 degrees Fahrenheit   up to 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit and just  

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Harrison was saying this morning. All of a sudden it ramps up to 6,000 degrees, and that shoots that around all the copper wiring that is all through the house.  

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Yep. Because of the fact that the copper wiring is,   due to its conductivity and,   and they are also great at heat transfer via convection.   So when   yeah. The culprit this is all preplanned.   So, you guys   could go on to rumble.com   and I know Sean Turnbull. His channel is sgt   Space Report. That stands for Sean, his middle initial g in Turnbull.   He just did an interview with my friend Deborah Tavares who I spoke to yesterday.   You guys really ought to go listen to her. She is a genius. She was in   the forest fires   in   2018   and she does mention you, Matt,   on the show on   and you as the firefighter and how you guys went around and did investigations   on those. But   we are at war right now   from our own government from within.  

The other thing that I really highly recommend that you guys all watch is my friend Aman Jabi's report from 2 years ago with Maria Z   on Rumble,   he will tell you   we have our own   digital   camps right now,   prison camps that are being built for us, and these smart cities are literally going to be turned into FEMA camps for us. I have a smart city that was just built from my house 3 quarters of a mile away.   It's really,   honestly,   not good what's going on.  

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No. Well, it's not good at all. We'll see what happens. They're   pushing like crazy. It appears to me that under some of the big issues they've already lost, but they're never gonna give up and they're never gonna stop. And that is why I say so often that they're the ones that dictate their own remedy.   You can't trust them. You can't deal with them. They'll lie to you. They'll stab you in the back. There's nothing you can do with them that's positive because they're absolutely untrustworthy.   Just like the whole, the the   the the meme all throughout history. Okay?  

And they they're either gonna kill us or we're gonna kill them or we can't live together. Seems to me those are the only choices.  

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Yeah. And then, you know, David David   there's a lady named, who has a website called,   I think it's wffa.win.   She's boots on the ground. She had an interview with David Nino Rodriguez,   talking about all the tariff operational cells in America that are going to be activated. And then on a side note, I don't know if you guys all caught this, but at Jimmy Carter's   funeral,   Melania   was dressed as a Puritan.   Like, she was literally wearing pictures of babies on her collar   at Jimmy Carter's funeral and they played that song Imagine, you know, Imagine There's No Heaven, Imagine There's No I mean, how it was and then when everybody had their hands on their,   hearts across their hearts, neither Trump nor Melania did. They were the only 2 that did not partake   in that. So just I don't know. FYI, I would get on   Maria Zee, Mariah   Zeee,   on Rumble and watch that interview with   Aman Jabi.  

It's so powerful, you guys. He's so smart when it comes to technologies and what they're doing with us with everything smart, your television, your   Wi Fi networks, your cars, everything spying on you, recording you, mapping you out in your digital prison, listening to you, and we are already been have already been taken over by AI, in my opinion.  

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Okay.   Thank you, Julie. John, back to your meeting, please, if we could. Yeah.  

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Speaking of that   funeral, that song, Lennon's song, that's an anti Christian song. Sure. It's a communist song.   Well, it's it's it's an atheistic song. I mean Well, that's who communists are. Yeah. Well, you know,   as far as I know,   Carter always   was the Christian and professed Christianity   and   kinda lived his life after he left the presidency as a Christian.  

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You know, you could say a lot about Jimmy Carter. He wasn't in wasn't very good in office. That's for sure. He was hoodwinked. I don't know. He liked Trump the first time. He had no idea what he was in into there.   But I can say one thing about Jimmy.   He's probably the the best ex president we may we've had in at least in the modern era, for sure. And he's my relative.   Or is he your relative? He's a Carter.  

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Okay. My my great grandfather's Carter. He came over in 16/50.  

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Okay.  

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And, I've never met him. I you know, I've got so many relatives between the Carters and the Atwoods. I don't even know where all of them are. Of course.  

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Alright. Well   and I was in Atlanta when all that happened. See? And,   our our   photographer we had a Jewish photographer that's kind of for the rock and roll industry at that market cornered,   and he got the photography job for all the Carter White House and everything that was happening there. So he was rubbing elbows with all those guys for years there.   But, yeah, Jimmy was terrible terrible president in in most respects.   Let us into the hyperinflationary   world that, we're just now crashing.   Coming out of that that bond market, what happened when he had that,   the inflation was so bad. Some of you weren't even born then, I would imagine.  

But, he had the inflation so bad in the seventies at the end that when Reagan got elected,   he appointed a guy named Paul Volcker,   big, gawky guy, about 6 foot 8. Paul   Volcker is a real good big guy and,   to head the Federal Reserve,   And he's the one that took interest rates up to 21, 22%.   And that started the bond the second coincidental   bond market. There's another 250   year one, and it's crashing. And the one that was started in 1980 by Carter and the the,   actions afterward by Volcker is what's crashing right now.   It's just a big trend.  



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Anyway,   I this Michelle is is really onto something here, and she's really doing a deep dive,   and and it's just getting better and better. But, you know, when you listen to to Newsom, I mean, the guy just makes my skin crawl. I mean, he just want to vomit when I see this guy and he's talking.   That's very typical of what we're dealing with. Yeah. Yeah. Evidently  

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evidently, he's a womanizer   and a severe alcoholic,   and, that came from Alex Jones from information inside his office.  

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Alex has has really   gone from I remember when Alex started. Yeah.   Because I used to get him on the   there was no Internet then. He he was   it was kind of more like a bulletin board system Right. And, Infowars,   and   that's that's when I ran into you actually.  

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Probably shortly after that, a little ways after. People don't realize. You know? I mean, I was aware because of my radio background, and VoIP was just starting   and all the Internet radio was getting started and all that. It was in its infancy.   And I heard about Alex, and he was sneaking around the fence down at MacDill Air Air Force Base in Tampa.   And, then later on, he a little while later, he goes to Corpus Christi on one of the black flag   exercises with the black helicopters.   And I would imagine we've mentioned it before that most of you have no idea about Alex rebuilding Waco.   I mean, he literally would get on the air all week and take solicitations   that people could send contributions   to the Lowes there in Waco, and he'd drive over and he'd have a team there, and they rebuilt the church at Waco.  

I mean, these are the things that people have no idea about, Al. This is way before Bohemian Grove and all that. Oh, yeah. So I've seen the guy change over all these years and Yes.   He has. He really has. And,   he's well, without a doubt, he's one of the points of the spear out there for our movement. He's been honed. I mean like him or not like him, I don't care. You know? Right. You can't you can't slide him for what he's accomplished.   K? No.   And he's like, you know, he's like me. I don't copyright any of this stuff. He doesn't copyright anything he does either   because we want the information out.  

I don't care about monies for it. I don't care about all that. I would like the credit for what I've done. Okay?   But but I don't have any interest in doing all that. I want people to spread the information.  

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I don't wanna potentially  

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penalize you and ask you to pay me for it,   for god's sakes.  

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Well, now that we started,   doing these remote calls,   because   you couldn't go to the park,   There just was all that smoke and stuff was flowing down into the park and then down in towards Pasadena.   So there's a restaurant out there that we use called Colonial Kitchen.   You can find them on the Internet. You might wanna do that.   There's 50 year old,   restaurant,   and   that's where they made and invented the,   chili size dish. It was very popular back then when they The what? Chili size. It's called a chili size.   What's that? It's an open face hamburger, and then smothered with chili and a whole bunch of fries.  

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Okay.  

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It's great. I'm sure it is. How many pea how many people does that, colonial,   restaurant seat seat?  

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You know, I they they easily can handle   a crowd of 60 or so, I think. It's just it's it's a small little place. Uh-huh.   But, we work in the Elvis room, so   we don't Uh-huh. Hubba. Hubba. Hubba. We don't generally go out in the in the main area, and it's got a piano in there. And it was it's also was featured in the TV show called Mad Men.   That's where the main the main guy when he was taking his girlfriends and stuff, they did all those pictures in the restaurant there   because it's it's an old style restaurant. I mean,   you know, it's still got a counter there by the table, and   I mean, it's got a counter just like, you know, you walked in and sit down with a chair,   order a cup of coffee in the forties.  

It's a great little place.  

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Well, I've always got my ears up for some venue out there where you guys could plan a meeting for the folks that wanna drive. Some of them have to drive a little bit probably.   But, they just perked my interest when you said that that that might be a venue for that.  

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No. It's too small. Oh, okay. And they've got too much business that comes and goes. So Regular.   We just kinda yeah. They do have really regular customers. Oh, I'm sure. It's it's a jewel of a place, but, you know, it's it's still not too busy. You can get in there. But the meeting room where we are, the the Elvis room,   it it's really gonna gonna hold about 30 people.   Uh-huh. Okay. I, I'm looking for a place, and   I thought I had something that was not gonna cost us any money,   but that they withdrew that offer. And so Really?   Yeah.  



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Well, generally, what we used to do is we'd find one and say, well, can we use your room if we all eat a meal? And they go, sure. We did that with Denny's. We had a Denny's in Yorba  

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Linda Uh-huh. Right off the 91 freeway   going into Anaheim and Orange County.   And   we met there quite a bit. That's that's when I started getting really involved   back in the eighties.   And that's exactly what we did.  

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Well.  

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But that has kind of evaporated,   and, it takes a cohesive person to do this,  

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do these meetings. It has to be somebody that's really committed to doing them and, you know, controlling the topic. And Well, this isn't any kind of a regular weekly thing. It's like maybe you guys could if you could find a central venue that people agree on, you could do it, you know, twice a year, 3 times a year, just get together. It just helps when you meet people that are on the same   wavelength with you. You meet them personally. You shake their hand, and you got that personal relationship, and it just means a lot. You know? It's my experience. Well, Raj, what I'm gonna have to do is I'm just gonna have to find a venue I like and just pay for it and just do it.   Well, if there's any listeners in the Southern California area that have some place like that that you know of, you know, contact me. Send me an email. I'll I'll alert John and them or get a hold of Mercka or something. But I I just there's a lot of you out there now, and I'd love to see you do that if we can put it Well, I'd like to get the other people that complain to be nationals and are also working in the same kind of venue even though we have disparate opinions  

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because I think our overall goals are the same.   Doesn't matter how you get there, I guess.   I don't wanna get into arguments with people about this person's right or this person's wrong. No. But we do have a completely different mindset than the average person, and that's what I wanna develop.  

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You know what? Let me give you an example of what upsets me with David Strait and Anomond Wright and whoever else is out there.   Annie, as you know, you were with Annie up at that   thing you guys attended.   And, she out of her own pocket, flew all the way to Miami from San Diego, went up there and had her own pamphlet produced, and goes up and gets a hold of general Flynn and goes, look. This is about being a national. He goes, oh, we know all about that.   Well well, no. You don't. I'm sorry, general. And I know you think you do, but there's people that just don't know what they're doing. They're spreading this, and that's the damage they're doing to us is when we approach somebody that might be influential in this. They think they already know it. And it's like,   it's like Mark Twain said, it's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled.  



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Yeah.   Well, that's what we did with, Clark's meeting up in the in Tulare.   Uh-huh.  

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Same thing. Yep. I know.   But I'm just saying that's what upsets me about them   teaching being PA Y Trias and teaching, well, quite frankly, bullshit.  

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Yeah. There's another one I found now called Inalenable University. They charge a $100 a month,   $65   for the book.   And, it's a it's a gal who's fairly aggressive and   offensive.   I've kind of been   I've kind of And offensive?   Yeah. She's   she's pretty abrasive.  

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Abrasive?  

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She's pretty hard and tough about, you know, they're right and everybody else is wrong. Okay. And then you you've got a whole bunch of crews out there. You've got another guy by your name, MKL, who doesn't like what you teach. You don't go far enough.   I don't go far enough? Yeah. I was trying to get his information, and he was on the SGT report, and I wrote him Oh my god. Tried to get his materials,   and some of the materials that I did get secondhand from somebody else, he wouldn't send them to me. Then I finally got an email from him   challenging me or telling me that, you know,   if you just do it, Roger says it's not enough. I how how do you know I was associated with this problem? Well, how the how the hell do you,  

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removing yourself from the system? Isn't that enough? What else are you supposed to do?  

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Well, you wanna be able to have, essentially commerce outside the system, and that's kind of what they're doing. And   there is some way to do some of that.   Anyway,   be that as it may, that's my point. I don't wanna get into arguments with these people, I because we're more alike than we are enemies, and   we better get together or we're gonna get swept up in this crap that they're trying to put together.  

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God said we're stiff neck people, John. He's right.  

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Yeah. That's  

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well, so are they. Well, that's what I'm that's what I'm alluding to. Yeah.  

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If I may. Okay.  

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Sure. Go ahead.  

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Hi. This is Pam on Michigan,   and I just wanna go back a few minutes where you were talking about the, lithium batteries, and I attended a township meeting   here in our county, and I had gathered some information in regards to using,   hemp   as a product to extract the poisons and toxins out of the ground.   And and I   absently   mentioned Monsanto   garbage   when I went to that meeting, and I they probably put up an alarm when I said that. But anyways, when I said that, it was only meaning to be able to use that   hemp that's harvested and then make it into a product, industrial product like cement,   that we could put the batteries in to encapsulate it. So if they were ever to   explode or whatever, you know, leak, And that was their main concern. How are we going to store these batteries?  

And I mentioned that using that, and they were like, point of order. We don't wanna buy it. You know, kinda like that. So I'd like to know your feelings on that.  

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Go ahead. I have a comment about it. Alright. Because I've been looking at this battery technology for quite a while,   and   the lithium battery is gonna go away.   It's too heavy. It's volatile,   and there are so many new battery technologies   coming out,   that are not volatile.   And   and some of these batteries, you charge once, you never have to charge them again.   I mean, the the technology that they're coming up with is absolutely astounding.  

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Pam, have you heard about the recent announcement? It happened within the last few months. I saw Kirk Elliott talking about it. She's the only one person I've heard talking about it.   And the new,   patented battery that I believe it's Samsung has come up with that they add silver   to. Have you heard about that, Pam? You heard us talking about it?  

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I have not.  

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This is really automotive? Okay. Now I'm gonna tell you here. And and mainly, initially, for   cars   and the electric car market, but it will eventually   change the whole battery market all over the world.   With a normal car battery,   you can go 400 miles. Right?   Takes hours, 10, 12 hours to charge it, and it doesn't work in the winter.   And they they're very expensive.   Okay? They don't want the batteries don't last very long. And so Samsung came up and then every car battery, they put a kilo of silver. I'm not sure how it's incorporated into it, but there's a kilo of silver in every   car battery,   buy silver.  

And,   it will allow the car to go   600   miles   rather than 400 miles.   It works in the winter, or the the one currently does not as we saw last winter.   It is recyclable   at some point, and instead of lasting 4 years, they last 20 years.   And then the real big deal is   instead of 10 or 12 hours to recharge it,   it recharges in 9 minutes.  

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Yeah. The technology that's coming is is really fantastic.  

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And it's gonna revolutionize   all batteries, all all sizes,   all batteries eventually.   That will start coming into production   in 2028   and,   just buy silver.   There   that's gonna eat up 68%   of the world's annual silver supply.   On top of all the demands for it now in electronics,   panels for sun stuff, all of the uses of silver.   So, anyway, that's coming. I know that's coming.   Yes, Samuel. Well, let me make sure Pamela got that. K? So   and like I said, the only place I've   yes. The only place I've heard, that was Kirk Elliott, the metals guy that's on Alex. And the reason is because he doesn't just stay in the metals market. And he picked that little nugget up off a trade magazine from,   car car people electronics.  

So that's common.   Okay?  

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Definitely makes a lot of sense because, you know, back a couple 100 years ago, when they were traveling across the country, they put silver inside of their milk Sure. So it preserved it. So same type of  

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concept. Well, there's something that you know, Silver's got all kinds of magic components and but this one is applied to batteries.   It's gonna revolutionize this electric car thing and batteries in general. So that's coming. There's a lot of changes like John said. And,   this one as the, the the the smart meter conversation   we were having this morning, and I know there's not a direct connection there, but do you remember,   maybe a month or 2 when the Israelis   sent all those pagers out that exploded the battery?  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Okay.   Yes. Samuel, you were wanting to inject something.  

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Yeah. I think regardless of what kind of battery you put in your car, do you really wanna   sit in that electrical field   when there's been no testing done at what it's doing to your biology?   No. Of course not. That's why nobody wants to do anything. With the cell phones. There's there's just no testing been done by these industries  

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because they don't give a shit about us. Oh, there's been some testing, John. They just don't tell you the results they got.  

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I listened to Paul Preston today too,   and,   Paul said that if you turn the power off to the house, you can save your house.   And that might be true.   Who knows?   But Paul also said that it turns off the smart meter. Well, it doesn't. The meter is set ahead of the main breaker of the house,   and you never turn the smart meter off. So if you wanted to turn the smart meter off, you'd have to cut the band and the clamp, the security thing to make sure it's not played with, and yank it off of the house.  

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What you do with your smart meter, if they won't change it out for you,   is you get tinfoil and you wrap the tinfoil around it, and it'll blow itself up.   Then you take the tinfoil off and call the electric company, and they'll come out. I don't know. I have any idea what happened.   And then they'll replace it with another one, and you do the same thing and blow that one up. And then they'll come back and say, well, I don't know what's wrong with this. We'll put an analog meter back in here.  

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Yeah. I don't know if I'd be taking that kind of a chance. But,  

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you know I've just heard somebody talking about it on the air one day.  

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If if somehow   they can excite the wiring in the house,   and that's how they do this,   then, yeah, turning your main breaker off would be the difference   because it can't then energize all of those lines   that are run through the home. But Uh-huh.   You're not ever gonna be turning the smart meter off. That's   that can be done by the utility company, or you have to just pull it off of the house.   But it might be worth doing that in a fire just to   be sure,   you know, and then see what happens.   If more people were doing stuff like that,   we would see some results that couldn't be denied.  



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The whole thing is just ugly.   Okay. We're, John, have we got through your meeting yet?  

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

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Alright.  

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I I just wanna let people know that if they wanna join in with with these remotes, we do put the link out there. It's on people's rights,   dot w s. Mhmm. And, that's,   people's rights dot w s.   You're gonna be able to get the links and stuff there. It's every Sunday at 2 o'clock PM Pacific time.   Well, float the idea. I'd love to talk to your group and maybe Oh, I'll have I'll arrange it. And stuff if you wanna do that. I'll take Yeah. We'd be glad to do it, You say, yeah. We're always looking for speakers, and you might as well come live now. I mean, you know Yeah. Well, I've been spreading the word just by going around trying to do my classes. Frankly, nobody really wants to do the class anymore. It's just  

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They don't wanna feed you?   Yeah. I I guess that's what it is. Yeah. They don't wanna feed me. No. It's just time and trouble to put people in a room. You're like that's a plant. You're like that plant in a little And they're not scared anymore. Feed me. Feed me. They're not scared of taking a shot anymore. You know, that's not coming down their throats. So there's there's a lot of motivations behind Well, well, now we got Trump elected, and my big concern is people, like, have a tendency to say, okay. Okay. Trump's coming in. We'll sit back. Everything's gonna be alright. Don't take that attitude. We can do a hell of a lot more against these guys and a lot of damage more than Trump. Well, he could do it individually. He can't really necessarily do it in his   position. I hope he assumes a week from today.  

But, you know,   now's the time for us to double down, really. Right. Because I hope that there's more that you can do personally here, folks. You can do what Trump can't do. You can drain the swamp with 1 sentence on one piece of paper to 1 guy   for less than a dollar.  

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Go ahead, John. Well, we wanna get, people out of the office,   because they're that's the problem. We're constant battle with these people and their codes and all this kind of stuff. And What just You wanna get them out of office. That's been the goal of   what I'm hearing Bannon say for quite some time,   back to the republic. And,   the other organization   that this the tactical civics, they're talking the same thing. They've got quite a quite a good a lot of paperwork, but they still don't understand who Well, they're going to the supreme court of the state and asking them permission to do their grand jury.   Well, they're not that. Right? Yeah. I know. Yeah. I know that they're talking about things like that, but they're not really   talking about going to the state. They're saying that   they wanna educate the population   to force the change, which is what Ben has been doing with his big mouthpiece.  

And for years, he's been on that goal,   in the federal government. And the idea here is is to build an army of people who get in the face of these people that are in office   and start getting involved in the elections   and changing the whole system,   up, but the they're finding that people have been so miseducated.  

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Yeah. Because like that's what I've complained from school. I you go to school and you don't you don't they don't teach you about your government. Well, no. Our problem is an education problem. I've been saying that on here for a long time. That's what I try and do is reeducate you people, reorient you, get your perspective   to change   with reality and truth behind you. And the well, everybody knows the result. You get empowered. And that's why I say, we've gotta get enough people. We can act outside of them because of their corruption.   And at the state level, we're still they're still obligated to us. Okay? And we can prove that because it's the, they owe us the protection.  



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Matter of fact, in that last meeting I was at with the tactical civics guys, it was a big discussion about that because I just point blank said, well, you got all these goals here. How are you gonna do it? And   we and the guys couple of guys were just really adamant, says, well,   the way we're gonna do it is we have to educate people because we have to do it. Nobody else can do it. It has to be people. Yes. That's what I'm saying about us. It's exactly right.   So   it's a real battle coming.  

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Yeah. I mean, yes, you may in a second. I mean, I don't want to I don't want to depend on David Strait to educate people. He don't know what the hell he's talking about. No. He's he creates a mess. He creates a mess. Yes. Was that you, Linda? The lovely lady Linda Louise?   That's your grandma. This is Pam, not Bob. Pam, I'm sorry. I have to love. Pam, are you are you Dave's wife?  

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I'm Dave's wife. I'm a woman. Okay.  

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Not a lady. Oh. Anyways Oh, you might. Well, yeah, you're one of those that must know what a woman is. Congratulations.  

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Don't ever call me a person. So So when I went up to the meeting and I brought up the fact about, you know, those battery storage containers being made in something that is indestructible,   like that Crete,   I also mentioned the fact that I had approached the women at the library, and they're older. And I said, why don't we have, like, a old people get together? And we did one, and they loved it. I mean, they really enjoyed it and wanted more. Well, they stopped it. They stopped it 2 years ago. I'm like, why don't we get those people out who have the knowledge? How did they live? How did they, you know, fix things? Because you're losing it with this next generation.   If they can't find it on YouTube   and, you know, some little comedy, they're not gonna play the game. And that's where we have to teach the next generation.  

Your life depends on you knowing how to plant a seed, not, plant a   little digit on a computer.  

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I Yep. Yep. You know, like Michael Bloomberg.   I'll add farmers. All they do is stick seeds in the ground.  

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Okay. Who else has got something to add? Well, I I wanna add one more thing before we get going here.   There's 2 books I found that I keep pro   promoting.   1 is Al Qaeda 2.0.   It's a 98 page book,   and it exactly describes   the danger and the attacks that are coming   on on our location.   And and they're just saying playing out right now in there,   that there are they know of a 1,000 cells,   1,000 operating cells. Yep. And all these attacks are gonna be simultaneous. Yep. And they're gonna be attacking Europe at the same time they're attacking here. And they're and they're armed.   Well, not only armed, but, I mean, they're it's destruction, and they're the kind of cells   that will fight to the death. You can't they won't stop.  

You have to kill them. Yep.   And they're gonna destroy everything. Now the other thing that I found talking about,   preparedness guys, I bought a lot of them over the years,   and I got one here, this one being advertised,   a Navy SEALs bugging guide.   Because, really, in reality, when this stuff starts,   you don't wanna be traveling anywhere. You've gotta be prepared to take care of yourself in place.   And this is the best book I have seen   ever.   This is really good.   It it gives you great detail,   serious good stuff, and it's not that expensive.   That   navy seals bug in guide   and Al Qaeda 2.0 for the attacks and the whole strategy.  

98 page, they lay it all out.   Whole purpose of what what what Biden did was to bring all those people in here. Of course.   And I knew that from Europe. I I remember when they started bringing all these people in from Europe. Well, that's why we're on the radio. Euro folk Radio was founded because of that. Yeah.   Well, anyway,   those 2 books are really worth buying.  

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Okay. Well, I hope you're prepared whoever you are and wherever you are. I don't know if you're new or been around here for ages, but we've had a lot of years to prepare,   and, hopefully, you have taken full advantage of it in your own personal circumstances.   Roger. Come come out of her, my people. Come out of her now. People like Joan here,   and she lives,   how what? 6 months of the year in Costa Rica?  

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Right.  

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Yeah. And I'm full time down here in Ecuador. And,   man, I I it's been a welcome change for me. It was a good decision. It's one of the better decisions   I've made. It was to leave the country   years ago and,   been down here 16 and a half years now, basically.   Acclimated   pretty good and and,   you know, to be I can get around with the language,   and   it's, very pleasurable. Just a beautiful day today too, finally.   Yes, Joan. What you got for us, girl?  

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I wanted to ask John   when   the   technical civic   guys say to him,   we just need to get everybody   educated   when you probably   tell   them,   well, then you wanna get educated about the national status.   What do they say then?  

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Well, these guys that I'm dealing with, it's just a local group.   They don't want to talk about it that way. There's a whole Let me Tactical civics is this guy that's been working on this stuff Yeah. And and running it. They're very, very, consistent.   The books that they publish and the trainings that they publish   are very good to begin introducing people back to how the government's supposed to work in the first place. Well, one of the  

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one of the things they did do, and we talked about it a while back, I think probably some people followed up on it, was they found an old book called The History of the Grand Jury   because that's one of their main mechanisms that they rely on. And the one time I heard this guy talk,   and, that would be a valuable book for us to acquire   because you see that's a solution we got. Should we ever get enough people, we can hold our own damn grand juries. That's what they could do up in Flathead County, Montana. That's why I asked Gary the other day. How many you got up there? Well, over 50.   Well, you only need 12,   and you need a cooperating   sheriff and the other any extra   is nothing but gravy.  

But,   you know, that that is,   that's enough people to   there's precedent   for you to secede   if as a county.   And the precedent is West Virginia.   Julie, did you know this about Virginia and West Virginia?   That they took one county in Virginia and made West Virginia?  

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Yes. I'm familiar with all of those groups. I'm familiar with tactical civics and everything, and there's another group.  

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I'm sure there's a bunch of them. I'm interested in this one point right here   that you can literally and there's precedent. This came from the guy that helped found the League of the South. After the Civil War, states can no longer secede.   That was his statement.   K? But evidently,   counties   can.   I heard him say that on an old talk. It's over there on sovereign to surf.com,   doctor Robert Livingston,   professor emeritus from Emory   University. He's probably gone now.   But, I had the guy that got me that talk, got get a hold of him, and he said, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We know so much more now, but   counties can secede. Now you gotta get the permission of congress, I guess.  

But that was buttressed,   Julie.   A couple of years ago when you had that democratic governor in that tried to threatening to take the guns, and all the gun owners went to the capitol there or to his mansion or something with their whatevers.   That night on Tucker Carlson,   they had one of the legislators   from West Virginia on, And he said, well, any of you counties that wanna come over there from Virginia, just get a hold of us.   So that not only can that be done,   that's still operable.  

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Yeah. That's that's correct.   That's that's the actual most key point of Anna Von Reitz, till she went crazy.   What? That you could form your own state? No. No. You formed your own, grand jury. Victory. And Yeah. Well,   we're doing control from the county.  

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That's why we're turning a system that's based on slavery, that's been corrupt and kept us in servitude   for 91 years,   fixing to be 92.   Okay? We don't need their damn permission.   That's exactly right. Son of a bitches.   We don't know what the founding documents tell us to do.   Right.  

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Now we can actually  

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I hit me over the last, like, recent, you know, these things still come to me. That's why I tell the audience this is a process, not an event. K? I mean, I'm still getting these understandings   years later,   30 years later, and don't forget the Bible said, it didn't say seek knowledge.   It says above all, seek understanding.   Okay? Well, you gotta have the knowledge to have the understanding.   Alright?   So,   anyway and I forgot what I was gonna say, so back with it.   It was profound, though, John. It was really profound.  

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I'm sure it'll come back.  

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I hope so. I have that problem too. You know, it was one of those epiphanies, man. Those things hurt. They're painful.  

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Anyway,   I gotta get out of here.   I'm gonna be playing I think Jim's gonna be playing this audio from our meeting,   there,   yesterday.  

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So what's Jim doing now that Spreaker's changed?  

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Yeah. I'm I'm crazy with what I am to Spreaker. I kind of was relying on Spreaker.   How do you listen live if you're not on the They they're they're not doing live shows. No. I know. I know. That's a problem.  

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So I wondered what Jim had done anyway. We'll give him our best and,   so you gotta take off. Well, that's cool. Well, glad to have you. Hey.  

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We missed last week or something. It's been Yeah. I had I had to get Oh, you had to get blood test. I had I had to it I didn't get out of there. I I I was there from, like,   7 AM or so till through noon testing.   I mean,   I listen. My my arms on both sides are completely bruised.  

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From from being a pincushion?  

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Yeah.  

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Okay. Well, we're at the top of the hour. You need to run off. We're glad you spent a little time with us. We'll see you again soon. And if you wanna talk to them and set that up, I'll be happy to do that for them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just need to get the scheduler to contact you some way. Okay. Well, you know my email address.   Alright. You and I will talk on the side, John. Good to have you. And we got a bid Chicago adieu right there. It's a whistler. So thank you, buddy. Good to hear you. Glad to be here.  

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Bye. Ciao.  

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Alright. So more information on here comes Paul, and there goes your car. Frequency, Juan. You're moving folks in and out of here like you wouldn't believe. Go ahead. Go to the matrix dogs.com,   upper right hand corner.   That's the little blue box. That's where all the Itera   classic   frequency wand information is. Thank you for joining us today. 106.9   WBOU   FM, the pulse of Chicago,   and a proud part of the NET family of broadcast   excellence   brought to you by WDRN   Productions, Fort Collins, Colorado.   Okay. Bye now. Ciao.  

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Wow. Okay.   Where do we wanna go? Somebody got,   Julie and Chris and some of the newer folks. And I don't know. We hadn't had a a wand program for a few weeks of the holidays and all the rest of crap.   But if you're not aware of this product, you probably ought to be. It's up in the top right like, John was Paul was saying,   and it's called an Itera   wand.   We've been messing with them for,   what, about 2 years? 2 and a half years maybe. And,   well,   the thing's just miraculous. I don't know what else to tell you. It's a frequency machine that's very inexpensive. I think they run about $400.   It uses a very special,   type of the frequency band from what's called the terahertz band. It's the natural,   healing rays of the sun.  

And what it does is that vibration, that frequency   is the exact frequency of a healthy cell.   And so it strengthens a healthy cell,   takes a marginalized cell, and either makes it better or gets rid of it. And bad cells, it gets rid of it. And you're constantly replacing,   your body with your own stem cells too. And,   it's just a miraculous little thing. Usually, John's on to read testimonials   or hear people interviewed.   And, I just encourage you to look into it.   Every house should have one, and some of the results people have   would leave your mouth open. Honestly, I'm not kidding you. Okay? Absolutely. So, that's what what Paul?  



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Absolutely.   And, if I could, mention one thing for Pam, Dave's wife,   I may   call you a person, but I will never call you that   person.  

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Yeah. You're still Pam, you're still a person, sweetie.   You just keep your rights from God and you've got constant protection now. It's just you're not this other slave person, but they're both persons.  

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Yeah. You're not that person. You're better.  

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Yep. And,   and our job   is to reach out to other people, not see if they even wanna be free, but to try and educate them and see if they're educatable.   Some of these folks out there are not teachable folks.   I've I've run across them. Okay? They're just not teachable. There's nothing you can do to reach them. It's just like Baryshnikov   said, when they get in that stage, you can put facts right in front of them and they can't see it. When you run into one of those people,   plant the seed, pray for them,   you know, go find somebody else.   Some will. There is no hope. So what?  

Next.  

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Yeah. There is there is also some people that have spent so much time researching   and and feel so strongly   about   what they have,   what they have learned   that they're absolutely   not going to even  

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entertain anything else. It's easier to fool a man than you're telling me he's been fooled. You're dealing with people's pride.   Yep. K? Right. And pride goeth before a fall, and those people that don't have the love of the truth and are truth seekers and are open minded are gonna fall.  

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Yes. They think that they're the ultimate truth seekers because they've been seeking the truth.   But they think that they're the ultimate truth seekers because they've been seeking it, but in all the wrong places for years.  

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Well, another Mark Twain, it ain't what I know that's killing me.  

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It's what I know. What I know that it ain't. So  

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k? And that's what's killing them. Don't don't   waste your time   trying to convince somebody   that's inconvenient   unconventional.   They've gotta come to their own conclusions.   You plant the seed and go on about your   way. Pray for them. Yeah. Like Okay. Some will, some won't, so what? That's fine. And you keep at this long enough, and then at some point, you run across somebody like Julie,   or you run across somebody like Chris, or you run across somebody like some of you other folks out there. And when this resonates with you, even though you don't understand it, like I didn't   at first, I just knew there was something of great substance there, and I kept following it. And you've done the same. And what you found is you're damn right. It's, something of great substance. It's the whole roots of civilization   in the world.  

Don't forget,   the battle we fight today   is the battle that's been fought since the beginning of time. That is Lex Rex,   the law of the king  

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versus the common law. That's the battle we're in. I'm telling you. I'm telling you something else that's been brought up during this show that's brilliant is when Pam mentioned   the, hempcrete   and foamcrete   as   as,   a way to insulate   and protect a lithium battery from burning your house down. That is absolute freaking genius   because air create is lighter than concrete.   It has not it's   naturally insulating because it does have the air pockets in it,   and it doesn't burn.   Mhmm.  

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Wow. Okay. But there's something I've never heard of before, aircrete.   K. But I think anything like that you can do,   and by by the way, I wanted to say on, this morning on Harrison, they found an article from   this last summer, June or July in California   there.   They installed a 120,000   smart meters. They're writing an article. Oh my god.  

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Roger?  

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Yes. Who's that?  

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Yes. This is Sketch. Good morning.  

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I Sketch, you sound like you're in you sound like you're in a sound tunnel.   Oh, sorry about that. No. That's I'm not I'm just commenting. Go ahead. That's why I didn't recognize your voice. Something Yeah. A little different. Go ahead.  

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Three shows ago, you mentioned,   the fire protection   called   Protectotherm   that,  

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Oh, I did. That was that what it is? You went and looked it up.  

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Oh, you bet. I did. It's in it's in the chat. It's called Protectotherm,   and   I would suggest that if   you can paint it around your smart meter, that will at least slow it down.   You know? Good. It won't help with the the wires, but it would probably   help on the outside of your house from catching fire.  

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It is amazing stuff. Or anything else. So I'm glad you looked that up. Would you go back and listen to that 3rd hour, Owen, and hear the guy call in?  

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Well, I scanned and looked for pictures as you can on Rumble and found it. And,   yeah. So it's called the hypotherm,   and you could look it up.  

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Okay. Well, it's a guy called in the other   day. Yes?  

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I wanted to thank Sketch for that. I have contacted the rep and asked him, he hasn't responded yet, to send me a sample so I can,   mix it into the paint and check it out myself.  

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Yep. For the audience who might have not gotten either one of those inputs on this, the guy calls in, he's a caller,   and him and a pastor is his partner, I believe,   have developed this substance. It's an innate or inert substance.   I mean, it doesn't explode. It's got no harm. You can eat it.   You put it with anything. It doesn't hurt anything,   but he he's got and there's a video, I guess, on the website. They said he he painted his hand with it, and then he put a penny in his palm of his hand and had a 37 100 degree blowtorch on the penny,   and his hand couldn't feel it.  



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Yeah. They sprayed it on   a,   envelope and put a blowtorch on the envelope. It wouldn't catch fire.  

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Yeah.   So, they, of course, tried to get it,   approved, and they go having to go through all kind of regulatory   crap. And it's like the guy said, you know, they want this one test that I've gotta pay for that costs $35,000.   And we don't have that kind of money, you know. So anyway but this this is the kind of product the New World Order boys like to get their hands on and steal.   K?   Because the that that thing would just be, incredibly   beneficial   to a lot of people. Hell, they could spray that from airplanes   out there in California instead of chemtrails.  

Maybe the whole damn place wouldn't start on fire.   So anyway, thank you, Sketch.   Protecto   firm term, what is it again?  

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Protecto Firm.   Yep.  

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Protecto   Therm. And is the website   protectotherm.com?  

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Yes, it is. And you can There you go. There's a short video   on on YouTube. You can watch the, envelope not burn.  

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Cool.   Well, there you know, you talk about solutions. Talk about solutions. Here's the solution.   Entrepeneur,   very beneficial to everybody and not harmful to anybody.   Nah. We don't want that stuff around.   Hell, we want something that hurts people, you know?  

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Anyway, I will thank you, Sketch. I think I'm gonna have to get a pound of that stuff   because,   I'm gonna have a 12 kilowatt   off grid system in my bus.   The batteries are going to be in either hemp or foam crete boxes, and the inside of those boxes are gonna be sprayed with that.  

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Good deal. Can you buy it? You can buy it off the website. Right?  

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Yeah. Should be able to. Okay.  

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Yeah. I think they're in Jacksonville.   Yeah. You're sketch?  

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I wanna thank you, Roger, for bringing it up because I wouldn't have known or searched for it if you hadn't mentioned it. I pass it on to all my friends in California   and my brothers.  

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So thank you. Good enough. Well, it's like the silver thing I was going over with Pam earlier. I just, I don't read because my eyes too much anymore, but I listen to videos. And the best,   most cutting edge place to go is InfoWars, folks. You may not like Alex. I think, you know, I I get aggravated with him a lot when he's sitting there pontificating,   and   and all that, but he's he's an excellent judge of talent.   Look at who he's,   you know, Owen, Harrison, and now Geyser.   He's a great pick of talent.   I love him. And they've got cutting edge information, and anybody that's gonna break something wants to get it on Alex. Folks, they got 20, 30,000,000   viewers.  

Live.   I got a question from Sketch. Alright. Hold on. Let's see if there's a female there, and we'll get to Sketch's question. Was that Joan?  

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Yes. Is the protectosome   blue?  

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Is it blue in color? I don't know I don't know if it's got any color at all. Sketch, can you answer that question? Is it I think it's a white powder, but you can mix it in latex  

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or,   acrylic paints, not oil paints. And you you it's a powder. You can put it in any paint and spray it. So it can be any color you want it to be, John?  

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Yep.   Sketch, did you find pricing and availability   there? I I was on my phone on that site, and I did not see anything.  

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I did not. I think you're probably gonna have to call that number.   I didn't see it. I'll check and get back to you, Samuel.  

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K. Yeah. I did I did, do an email and request a sample. I told them I'm a contractor, and I'm gonna have to see it for myself before I, place an order. Well, I guarantee you they're very busy right now.  

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Are you kidding me?  

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Yeah. It's a little late to somebody let the horse out of the barn, you know. Yeah.  

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I can imagine that they are a little busy. So if it takes a little bit for them to get back to you, please be understanding.  

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Maybe we could protect Gavin Goose and then pay hit paint him.  

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No. No. We want him to burn. Why would we wanna do that? Can't I burn?  

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I want him painted up. I'm gonna do that. If we encapsulated  

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old Gavin in that stuff.   Remember Goldfinger?  

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Yeah. No.  

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When they painted that actress gold and she died?  

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Yeah. A little because she cut off your skin breathing. Yeah.   Uh-huh. Okay. Samuel, you were saying something?   Somebody was, I thought. Oh, nothing of importance, Roger. Okay. May I? That was yes, ma'am.  

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Hi. It's me, Julie, again. Yeah. I just want everybody to know that Mike Adams just had a post and said breaking,   analysis that the California fires are now producing a cloud with a dioxin cloud. It will contaminate the national food supply.   Every person who who's breathing the smoke from California fires is ingesting smoke cancer.  

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How is it putting out dioxygen?  

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That I don't know, but he's got a whole thing on it on his britean.com   channel and a link to it. Like, he said it's far worse than the East Palestine   train quote, unquote accident in Ohio, and he said it's the worst ever. And so the problem is you got all those,   war or those geoengineered   weather warfare winds that they're moving all of those smoke clouds and dioxins all around the state of cal California and the neighboring states. They are literally trying to murder us.  

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I remember when him and Alex Jones both came out and said we were all gonna die from COVID.  

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Well,   I remember that too, but, I think a lot of people right now are getting turbo cancers right now, and they're not associating the turbo cancers with those COVID shots that they got 5 years ago. That was not on purpose.  

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Yeah. I knew that I could fashion. They didn't say it was from the jab. They said it was from COVID.  

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Yeah. Well, I have a friend I have a friend that I knew years ago professionally,   and he was out in Hollywood, big producer,   like, you know,   and, he recently died of a turbo cancer, and he did not take the jab. And he was, highly   anti vaccine,   but he probably got shed on.  

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K. That's a good reason. Shed on or maybe he took the yep. They're they're just spraying all of that stuff  

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in the air through the Yeah. Chemtrails and Well, now I'm glad you asked Chris.   We we had a regular   was one of our legal guys, Chris Cave,   on here. Wonderful background, wonderful patriot, prolific caller into all these shows. Many people on here remember Chris, or you've heard him in some of the archives.   He was, the John Travolta of Las Vegas,   some great dancer.   And, you know, girls would come up to him and beg him to dance with him, that kind of stuff. And he had a girl he lived with, and she got the jab. And he didn't, and he died.   He came on here on Friday. Last time we talked to him, I said, Chris, you sound like you're on death's bed. He went to the emergency room that weekend, and he was dead the next Tuesday on the redisaver   protocol.  

Brent knew him. Brent knew him out there. Brent both are Brents. Both Bachman and Winters,   and all of us loved Chris, and he's a big void in the show, and we really miss him.  

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Roger, I recall,   Brent   I mean, Chris telling his   his gal pal   not to call an ambulance,   and that's what she did.  

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And they took him by ambulance, and he was dead within Hell, he said it was like he was on death's bed on the show, and I'm not kidding. I know. K?  

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I know.  

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And so, anyway,   sadly, miss.   That's why I say folks, these people have dictated their own remedy. We gotta get our hands on them, and they gotta be executed.   Okay? Sorry. That's where I stand. You can't deal with them, you can't trust them, you can't live with them, or one of us gotta kill the other. But those are the only options I see. Anybody else got any options that I missed?  

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Okay.  

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Maybe those fire hydrants didn't have air in them.  

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Did you see the,   did you see the post on,   x on   this guy who, has all the ins and outs of that, what's the lady who's the fire chief or whatever, she's been going to Cuba,   twice a year. She's a she's, been groomed by Castro.  

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Right. And,  

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yeah, she's an actual, Marxist and did this all on purpose.  

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And yep. Out out front. Yep. Just like you said, it was the other one. Somebody else was comparing the other one,   some another one of these. Well, lesbians in in positions of power.   Thank you, Farris. Okay?  

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So we Lesbians in powerful positions.  

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No. We don't use that. That can be   that can be misconstrued.   Okay?   Lesbians in positions of power, not in powerful positions.   Unless you wanna start doing a meme about it. Okay?   C Ferris c Ferris can   contribute   positively to the program. I think that's a very positive, clever, little, an acronym. Especially when he's not Very topical. Very timely.   You know, I like to call them, vegetarians.   That's one of the better labels that I've found.   Okay. Where else can we go today? Chris, are you with us today by any chance you come back in, or do we scare you off Saturday?   Well, he might be taking care of his wife too or something. Okay.  

Chris will pop back in here, I guess.   I always like to check on the new folks, make sure that as they're getting   this thing settled in their mind, they don't have any confusions left so they can get all the nuts and bolts in the right position and   things corrected in their mind   correctly.   It's such a simple scam on what these guys have done. I mean, they've been playing this game. They're not telling how long they've been playing this equivocation   game in their little Freemason magic on how they can control and deceive us.   So I said they've earned their remedy, folks. I didn't dictate it. They did.  

So what else?  

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We've got a Jason with the mic open.  

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Jason? You have You got something to say, brother?   Hey, brother.  

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Yeah. I'm here. I'm I'm just listening. I'm I'm into the show.  

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Are you? Hear me? Okay. Great. Yeah. We hear you loud about this. Oh, yeah. We maybe over my voice. Loud, dude.   Back off of the mic just a bit, Jason. Let me ask you a couple of questions.   First of all, what part of the country are you in, and how'd you find us?  

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Well, I am   that's a lot, kinda long story. I am from Virginia, but I'm in Florida right now.   Yeah. What part? Do you see it?  

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South Florida?  

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Well, I am right near the, The Villages right now.  

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Okay. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm in my army. I was born in Panama City. That's why I always ask you Floridians. Yeah. I know where you are.  

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Okay.   I'm trying to find try to turn my car.   Off. Am am I too loud?  

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Well, you're you're it's alright. You're just over modulating a little bit. So if you could, like, back the mic off or maybe if it's got a volume control. But if you don't, it's alright.   So, how'd you find us, Jason?  

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Well, I found your website.   Actually, I emailed you over the holidays. So, what was the heading? It was, Eklund book.   Okay. With the heading of the email?   Yes. Yes, sir.  

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Okay. Well, welcome. Glad to have you on.  

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High volume.   I did the internal. Right?  

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Have you been studying? You got questions, comments,   whatever? I know this I have. Can be over overwhelming   to people at first, and and that's understandable.   Yeah. Well, you've had what?   I'm still trying to find my microphone. I'll just I'll just back away from the computer. Don't don't, don't don't take that and distract it because I'd rather have the conversation. We can hear you fine. There's no big distraction.   It's just I've been around audio and radio a long time. It's just a comment. So,   anyway, how did you how did you find you found us by stumbling into the website. Have you been studying? I found I found your your old website.  

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It was it was actually about   yes. But but about 3 or 4 years ago,   well, I've been I've been going down this road for about 20 years, but it didn't really understand   much until COVID hit.   I had gotten sick, and so I had a lot more time   to do research.   And,   I guess the first the very first article that really   threw me sideways was one by Julie,   girl named Giuliani.   Lisa Giuliani.   Yeah. And said that the the country was a corporation, and that just kinda blew me away.   And then from that point forward, I started doing research, and I've circled the the globe in information.   I've been through all the David Strait videos. I've been through the and the Von Reets stuff.  



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And you've lived to tell that you've lived to tell the tale.  

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And for some reason, I kept on circling. I never   really got back to your original website. But every now and again, I've come back to it. And then finally,   a cup I don't know. A couple of weeks ago, I said, you know, I I have got to read this book.   I have you know, I still had pieces in my mind that that things just weren't filling in. There were still dots that weren't connected.   And I have now basically, I'm 99%   through your book a second time. And it has really connected the dots   Yeah. For me. And,   I have a   a picture now, and it's also   pushed away some some extraneous information or wrong information.  



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Yeah. There's a lot of crap being hot out there.  

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There was so much garbage. When the when I went through the Annaba, I read her book,   and it confused me so badly.   It took me   it took me a year and a half just to get it out of my head. You know? I I was under the  

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That comes under the baffling with bullshit label. Go ahead.  

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So anyhow,   so so now that, you know, I've been through your book and I've, you know, started reading everything that I can find with your name on it. I finally,   today, was able to take the time and and and get logged in here on the radio show. And I think what you guys are doing is fantastic,   and,   I understand it. I understand the jurisdiction now.   I have already gone through and done my passport.   I'm not sure I did it   the best way. I   what's the guy,   Copper Moonshine Stills website? Discuss yes. Did you follow his process?  

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I followed his process. Well, tell me what it is. Because I don't know how the hell, if it works, why it works.  

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Well, basically,   it comes down to,   essentially, just just making sure that that you for your mother and your father, you you you do not check the boxes  

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that they say they're US citizen. You know, and this is a real severe point with me, is I can't understand   because they take passport fraud   very seriously up there.   And unless your parents   had something on file with the secretary   stating that they weren't citizens of the United States, then they were under   the presumption.   And I absolutely tell people not to do that. I don't know why they haven't come back and dinged him unless it is such a verboten topic   that they don't wanna touch it in any way, shape, or form.   That may be the case.  

K?   Do you know Let me give you a couple well, let me give you a couple of short stories of interactions with the post with the passport people.   One of them was our good listener, Jerry, here, last year. He did his in December, and he did his wife's in January or something.   They were,   and right before they're going on vacation to South Florida down there close to you, they're up in New York.   His wife gets a call from a passport office, and she goes, well, I'm right in the middle of a meeting. Can you call back in 30 minutes? Guy goes, yes.   Well, in the interim, she gets a hold of the Hud Jerry, the hubby, and says you need to field this call. Guy calls, names himself Hilton,   and he starts he says, well, your wife was born in Syracuse, New York. She's a citizen of the United States. Well, Jerry had been a good student, and he knew this stuff cold. And so he started to, counteract in the guy. And at one point in the conversation, the guy says, you really know your stuff.  

And then at the end, he goes, well, we're not gonna issue it to it. Would you like your money back? And Jerry goes, send me the whole he said, would you like us to process it, or you want your money back, or what? He gave him some options. And and he said, well, I'll take my money back. He thought there's another way to attack it. Okay? And so they went on vacation,   and when they came back,   her passport and her passport card were in the mailbox.   It was a bluff.   They wanted to see how much they knew.   Now the other one was a guy,   just around you, around Orlando,   transplant New York guy, maybe listening. Dave, I believe, is his name.  

And,   he he's our people get real antsy, Jason,   that they've done that they're listed as a national, and I understand why. Okay? And so he he's one of those and he called the passport office.   So I just wanted to make sure I would, you know, have somebody check my profile. We left a message. Nice guy called him back. And he goes, oh, okay. I'll check it out. Brings up the profile. He goes, oh, yeah. You're listed as a national. And he he seizes the affidavit there. They evidently, they got the attachment   on the profile.  

And he brings it up and he starts reading it and he goes,   wow. This is really good.   He said, We don't have any problem filing documents like this. It's those big Opus books that get shoved to the back of the desk.   And then he said this,   We're getting so many of these lately   that they're having special classes for the employees   on how to process them correctly.   K.   Now,   you said you've already done the passport?  

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Yeah. I, I did the passport, and,   one of the things that that he describes on his website is the way to do it is you don't   put it you put in,  

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what is it? Rural?  

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Rural routes, something with the mailbox and the ZIP code and all that crap. Right? Right. And you leave your ZIP codes in zeros.  

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Oh, please. Yeah. Okay.  

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And then, because the the what he's saying  

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is that place that you you put you makes you irrelevant. In a federal in a federal zone. Yeah.   Yeah. Well, he's wrong.   Yeah. What makes you,   liable is you they replaced you in it at birth and every time your whole life they ever asked you, are you a slave in voluntary servitude?   You said yes to both questions, and you signed something. They have nothing else. You they don't they're not gonna wait until you're 16   to get a social security number to latch you into the system. They're gonna do it at the start. Okay? This is one thing that I've found. Just like you get enough information and your mind starts giving you answers.   So one day, I'm sitting here, I may have been on the air. And it hit me all of a sudden, he says, they always put the hook at the first.  

And I can give you 5 examples. There are key examples of really important concepts   in this scheme, and it's always at the for all persons born.   Bam. There you are right there. The feudal zone.   It it, it 26 CFR   1.1 dash 1 a, right at the front of the book. The Nationality Act of 1940   with the definitions.   Definition a, a national is a complete,   allegiance to a small estate. They always put the hook at the front.   And you've never heard anybody else say that. Okay? Nobody's ever figured it out. They don't even know what they're dealing with. Anna Von Wright and David Strait, they don't even know the system of law they're dealing with, much less the conditions of themselves   being voluntary service. I mean, David Strait writes a 31 page office and puts sovereign citizen in there.  

You know, we had a case people called in. They were having CPS problems in Southern California,   and somebody told them about straight. They went and paid him 100 of dollars on top of the other expenses they were having to pay, extraordinary   expenses, and he gives them that opus and they go back to the CPS officer, and he opens it up and goes, oh, you're a sovereign citizen, are you?  

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Be careful.  

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Okay? Right. Be careful. Every   there there there that you could take that first phrase of the 14th Amendment,   all persons born or naturalized in the United States, comma,   and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma,   are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside. There's 9 legal landmines   in that sentence.   9.   If you don't know what they're talking about and breeze right over that like everybody always has,   and there it is right in front of you.   Roger. Right? Yes. Yeah. Well, hold on. Yeah. Jason, let's see what Mark has got here. Yeah, Mark.  

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Okay. Is that I'm gonna ask him. Is that from Copper Moonshine?   Yes. Yes. Your phone? Okay. Yes. Because you teach people that they're the United States National, which is the American Samoan.  

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So Oh, that's what he's teaching over there too?   Hey, Jason, is he teaching you you're a noncitizen   national?  

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Jason I'm sorry?  

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Is he teaching you that you're a noncitizen   national   as put into the oath on the passport application?  

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I don't remember right off because it's been a while. I'd have to go back and look at it.   But I don't I don't remember   making a designation   between Okay. You know, a a national of the 50 states or a national of Samoa.  

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I've maintained for a while, that's why I wanted to ask you, that I don't I I don't know if stuff must work if they're not coming back on anybody for lying on the passport application,   but I don't know why.   Okay? Well Let me tell you a story that just when I when I first started teaching this, so so this is about 15 years ago, not far from you, just a little bit up the road in Jacksonville,   there was a guy, he's he had a Spanish last name. He'd been a retired army guy and he was writing to the senator from Florida to help get him out of jail. He'd been put in jail on passport fraud.   And he'd been in there about 6 months and couldn't get out. Okay? That's why I say they take passport fraud very seriously.  

Here's what happened to him. At some point earlier in his life,   he had partially filled out or however   a passport application,   and he sent it in unsigned.   Okay?   And so, you know, on a first d s 11, you gotta sign it in front of an administrative official or a judge. You can't just do that. Okay? But he had done it. And so later on, he went to apply   and it says one of the questions is have you ever applied for a passport before?   And he checked no.   And they came and arrested him and had him in jail for 6 months on passport fraud on that incident.   You go find it if you search it on the web. It was in Jacksonville. Okay? So that's what I'm saying about Copper Moonshine still. I can't there's some reason they haven't come back because he's instructing people to lie because their parents were   citizens of the United States.  

So anyway, just one of those little mystical things that's why I don't pay attention to other people's,   work too much   except to try and find some of the ridiculous things that other students bring us here.   But regardless, how many years ago was that that you did that, Jason?  

[01:35:22] Unknown:

It's been,   it was,   summer before last.  

[01:35:28] Unknown:

Have you, did you get both a book and a card?  

[01:35:32] Unknown:

Yes. I did. So what what I I didn't I didn't check the box that said that they were US citizens.   I did give them a declaratory statement   that's that stated that I was not a 14th amendment citizen.  

[01:35:45] Unknown:

Okay. Well, that probably works.   Okay. Then I was a state citizen.  

[01:35:50] Unknown:

Okay. Well, then my that my that my that my parents believed believed that they were US citizens when they were nationals.  

[01:35:58] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:35:59] Unknown:

And you didn't get any So they did did you   crack that open.  

[01:36:04] Unknown:

Okay. Did you do that in the form of declaration or an affidavit?  

[01:36:09] Unknown:

A declaration.  

[01:36:11] Unknown:

Okay. That works.   You're probably out of the system.   I I have come to understand that all you have to do is rebut the presumption.   That's where the rubber meets the road and and basically withdraw your consent, which it sounds like to me that you did.   If you wanna make sure,   you probably got a number of years left on those documents,   you could go back and do a another passport application   and attach another affidavit   and put that in if you want. I'm not telling you to. It sounds like what you did will probably suffice.   If it's been 2 years and you haven't heard from them, I'd say you're on the safe side.  



[01:36:54] Unknown:

Right. Well, the other thing I did was,   because it didn't state that I was a national   on the passport or the card.   I had that anywhere. It does on the passport. I was thinking that maybe if I, if I were able to get my certified passport records that maybe somewhere in there would say, so I obtained my certified passport records. And that didn't do they didn't they sent me the records, but they didn't send me the declaration back.  

[01:37:21] Unknown:

Well, what you need to do well, they might have discarded it. It's attached to your profile, though, and instead of a FOIA, you might try a what they call a privacy   request.   So FOIA is for general information, and if you're asking for information on yourself,   they're more likely to give it to you because it's you in a privacy   request. Basically, the same thing as a FOIA,   if you want to. But   my experience is that they their clerks in there, they process them correctly. And it's like that guy told Dave. We're getting so many of them, they're having special classes to teach them how to process them correctly.   So I air, you know, I'm an   a half full glass guy. I always try and look at the optimistic side. And I think the clerks internally that have rules to follow,   follow them for the most part. K? By and far, the most part. But you can do that again. You could send in other documents.  

And, but the important thing for you right now is you got on the right source of information that tells you why it works,   how it works, how else to take this and extend   it to protect you, say,   down there by the villages outside of Orlando. Okay? Because you'll,   we'll teach you to notify.   You've you've told them that that's all you've done was to send send that in the passport. Right?  

[01:38:46] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, I I I did the pass the d s 11 passport application, and I sent the application in. And and I got the the the book and the card. And I figured if I had done it wrong, they wouldn't have issued it. Well, that that's for sure. Okay.  

[01:39:01] Unknown:

And,   have you, removed   yourself from any other agencies?  

[01:39:08] Unknown:

Yeah. I I'm I'm I'll I no longer have a voter registration.   No longer have a driver's license.  

[01:39:20] Unknown:

How about IRS?  

[01:39:23] Unknown:

I haven't, well, I haven't filed for   well, I haven't I haven't had any any   taxable income since I got sick in 2020. So Okay. I haven't even filed.  

[01:39:36] Unknown:

Well, that's alright. You're gonna if you want to, you can remove yourself from that. And   and, actually, once you officially change status,   you can go back to the IRS and get the last 3 years you paid in back. Would that help you out?  

[01:39:51] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I I had no idea that that was possible.  

[01:39:55] Unknown:

Yep. Not most people don't. That's what this whole thing was founded on. That's what my law teacher found was that it's called revocation of election   and how to do that. They started the company   that they were using and that's where I crossed paths with them in the 6 months they were teaching. It's very legitimate, but you boy, you gotta do it correctly.   K?   So you can do that.   Pardon me?  

[01:40:19] Unknown:

I thought the revocation of election was for married people.  

[01:40:23] Unknown:

Well, that's a term that can be broadly applied. That's what they call the what we did and that's why I use it still.   Revocation of election. You can revocation a lot of elections. You could be an LLC   that's elected   to be taxed as a, subchapter s, and you can redo that election. So there's a lot of ways you could apply that term. That's just what we call it. Okay?   But that's what started this whole deal,   was John and that, and then he met my other teacher, Glenn.   John's dead. Glenn's still alive. Maybe we'll have him on one day. And,   they started a business out of it.  

So but what they didn't know I mean, John knew everything about taxes. They were the experts   in the world on the taxation on our side. K?   But what they didn't know was what I brought, which was you gotta do it with the secretary of state first.   So they would teach us to file it in local property   records and send it to the IRS,   but and John knew it was the feudal system. I don't know why he didn't put this together.   But, you gotta go to the to the lord of the manor that's in charge   of citizenship, that being the secretary of state. All you gotta do is tell him. He can't do a thing about it,   and and,   you're free.  

But nobody knows that. No. First of all, nobody knows it's the feudal system. There's Bob.   Nobody understands some of the elements   of the feudal system. And,   and so they don't put these things together. When you know that that's the basis of it, the remedy's right there in front of you. It's gotta be voluntary servitude. I can volunteer out, and they can't say jack shit about it because it's my decision. Yes, Bob. I know you're this is one of your Floridians down there, Jason.  

[01:42:13] Unknown:

Well, I heard you say something about the villages, so I assume so.  

[01:42:17] Unknown:

Just, Yeah. This is Jason. Meet Bob.  

[01:42:21] Unknown:

Hello, Jason.  

[01:42:22] Unknown:

Hello. How are you doing? If you could if if I'm down in Okeechobee, if you could get your,  

[01:42:27] Unknown:

email or something to Roger, he could forward it to me, and I'd get ahold of you. Yep. Yep. We got some folks down there. Bob knows some of the key folks. Yes, sir?  

[01:42:38] Unknown:

If you're married, the limitation of elections, go with divorce.  

[01:42:42] Unknown:

Yeah. There you go. Same thing. I said like I said, you could apply that in many areas.   Jason, shoot shoot me an email to radioranch, no space.   [email protected],   and I'll hook you up with Bob, and maybe you can get to me. We got a number of good folks down there.   One of our, Greek guy owns a Greek restaurant over in Tarpon Springs, and Chris is there. You got some folks in Tampa, and Bob there.   And, you got we got a good crew. Terrence down in Naples.  

[01:43:16] Unknown:

Okay. Awesome. Alright. My email is gonna be if you have a computer up here, you might be able to see my email on screen.  

[01:43:24] Unknown:

I can't. But if you'll just send me that email, I'd appreciate it. I got a challenge vision. Okay? So I'll I'll I'll pivot you out to Bob there, and you 2 can hook up.   So what   so you got the passport in. Okay. Well, what we would   suggest that you do, you don't have to do any of it if you don't want to. It just strengthens your position, and it kinda lets everybody know. And it kinda spreads the word like, hey. Don't don't tread on me. You know, it's like the old flag. Right?   So the first thing you do is cut loose of the feds, which you've done,   because it's in your passport.  

We we suggest people   just send a blank affidavit   with a cover letter to the secretary of state   first, usually.   Something happened that dictated that approach.   And,   and then you put the agencies   that you might   want to   know and have noticed because this is all due process stuff here. So once you file with the secretary,   now you've got the burden on you to complete due process.   And so due process is notice and the right to be heard. So you're gonna send them notice with a copy of that affidavit that this has been done, and don't mess with me. K? And so,   in fact, the second paragraph of our affidavit on-site   deals with IRS specifically   because,   obviously, most people, that's the agency they wanna get away from.  

So,   but you might have somebody bugging you about some other agency where you put them on notice too.   Then you wanna turn around and you wanna put Florida on notice.   So you will take a copy of that affidavit, if you wanna do this,   and, just write a short cover letter. It doesn't have to be long. You don't have to prove your case   on the cover letter that they know what's going on.   K? It'll get to somebody   high enough that understands what's happening here. And,   then you copy your local,   sheriff,   your local chief of police,   your local district attorney or prosecutor or whoever dockets cases,   and maybe even your local public health official.  

And you cc them on what you send the attorney general.   Now at the top of that cover letter,   you're gonna want to put a couple of statements.   1 is legal lawful notice, bold letters,   capitalized.   And underneath that, you're gonna want to put this phrase,   notice to the principal   is notice to the agent.   Notice to the agent   is notice to the principal.   So you're locking them together under the laws of agency.   So now what that does   is should your sheriff   write a ticket   and then the   DA docket it to be heard when they've both been given notice,   then they're acting outside of their delegated responsibilities   and duties, aren't they?  

Yeah. Yes. They are. So now they lose their cloak of immunity   and they become personally liable.   We're just getting a case done with this up in New Jersey. God bless Joe. Okay? And because they're linked under the laws of agency,   now the attorney general is liable too.   Okay. And once you've done that, you've given them all notice, nobody objects,   and, and and everything's done totally legally and lawfully. Now, we had Maryland up in,   Frankfort, Kentucky, I believe.   And she did that and her chi her police locally are, you know, like most of the other people, they're functionally illiterate.   And they write her back a letter and say, well, you're a concealed   carry permit holder, and you've gotta come turn that in since you're expatriated   and you're not a citizen of the United States anymore.  

Well, like I said, it shows they're functionally illiterate. K? And,   so they said, and you need to get ahold of the FBI.   And she calls into the show, and we said she said, okay. Get ahold of the FBI. I called. They wouldn't return the call. Wrote them a letter. The FBI sent her back a letter. It says, we don't have anything to do with this. And finally, somebody at the police department realized she wrote them back. She said, I didn't expatriate. I repatriated.   Well, they figured out what was going on and just had her do one other little step for their send them something written on email or something. But,   at Maryland, I said you should have called them and said, well, thanks. But I don't need your stinking license anyway.  

K? But we're we're starting to get now, Joe,   one of our very, good researcher student guys,   just almost took back a city in New Jersey   over a cop that had a penis erectus for him   and was harassing him, confiscated his car. Here's a a guitar teacher with 2 young children. Okay?   And they they impounded his car for the last year and a half. He went in front of the judge. The judge,   challenging jurisdiction.   Judge says, do you buy gas? He goes, yeah. I got jurisdiction.   What? Boom. Boom. You know? I mean, they'll do anything.   Anyway,   Joe pursued,   appealed it, got it, up there, and they went back and checked the city's founding documents,   whatever those were, and they were violating them. And he filed a common lawsuit called a.  

And all of a sudden, they became really nice   because they violated their own founding documents,   and he was about ready to take the city over and turn it back to the people.   So the judge says, go see the prosecutor   drop   that maybe Joe right there. Drop 5 charges, and they said, let's get this discovery out of the way.   And so at the end, they hadn't done discovery yet, and I'm assuming   they didn't want any appealable issue. Like, hey. You didn't do any discovery or whatever. So they're inviting him in to do the discovery so they can close the case. And then   we're gonna see about Joe going after these people in their personal capacity. Yeah. Was that you, Joe, or somebody else?  



[01:49:57] Unknown:

No. That's me.  

[01:49:58] Unknown:

There you are. This is the librarian here, Jason.   Congrats, Joe.   You need to come on there because you told that story. We were in the after hours, and people were almost fighting each other to get a hold of that audio.   And, maybe you can come on one day and give it the whole thing so we can   take the clip out and put it on the website. But, yeah, tell what I missed. Tell Jason.  

[01:50:22] Unknown:

Okay. So,   you know, basically, I got, I got arrested. They gave me 5 felony charges for having a pocket knife on me.   And then they were trying to give me 13 years in jail.  

[01:50:35] Unknown:

What did you have on you? Pocket. A pocket knife. Knife.  

[01:50:39] Unknown:

Oh, okay. We're we're talking about a little folding knife. This is it's not like I wasn't wielding it either. They just yanked me out of the car and arrested me. I mean, this is within 20 seconds again stopped.   Okay?   I got pulled over. I I handed the cop a card that just says that I'm not waiving my 4th, 5th, or 6th Amendment right. And he goes, well, I need your driver's license. I said, sir, I I have no problem giving you anything until, once I have,   counsel present. He said, well, then you're under arrest. And they yanked me out of the car.   Then they, of course, have after they handcuffed me, they find a pocket in a pocket knife in my pocket.  

And so they gave me 5 felony charges for that, saying that I was using the weapon to impede an investigation.   Right?   Which,   if any anyone who knows me knows I'm not I'm not   gonna do something stupid like that. You don't bring a knife to a gunfight, but you don't fight with the cops. Rogers made that very clear, and I totally agree with him on that. Anyway, the the thing was that, they took the car. That's a 5th Amendment violation because it's, it's taking private property without due process of law. Right. Okay.   I mean, there's other rights that were violated. They didn't read me any of my rights until about 10 minutes before they released me. So I would actually sign the police station for about an hour and a half, and then they released me.  

And right before they released me, they read me my rights and then handed me a piece of paper asking me to waive them,   which I said, I'm not going to.   You know? But, anyway, so, you know, I I had to write to the tow company,   and I told them that I was gonna sue them in court.   And so they didn't give me the car back, and they kinda laughed at me. And then they got a letter from the attorney, in fact, over the trust that owns the car. And then the the guy said, where he calls me up. He goes, where do you want me to bring the car?   So they they brought it they brought it over to my,   a parking lot that I have and that's where they put it. So, you know, that was nice, you know, but it took about a week to get the car back from the from the tow company because I had to show them that I was gonna assume in federal court.  

I submitted some paperwork in with the courts, and they just ignored it.   The upper court had taken over the case because it was felony charges. So they told the municipality that they were gonna take the case because they couldn't see it. I submitted some paperwork into them, and they went   quiet for about 3 months.   Although I was supposed to have a court case within that month,   and New Jersey has a provision saying all federal   or all felony charges have to be have to have, an arraignment within 3 within 90 days.   So after 3 months, they dropped the they 2 times, I went to court, and they wouldn't even let me come into the courtroom,   probably because of some of the paperwork I submitted. They they wouldn't want they didn't want me to enter.  

So they dropped the case, but then the municipal court picked up the case. So I put in a motion to dismiss, citing that,   they missed the 90 days for an arraignment. So they have to dismiss the charges per New Jersey's own rules.   And, the judge rejected it and screamed at me. I went and did a writ a prohibition, which is a which is basically a letter to the upper court   telling the lower court to stop the action until they can sort out the legality of it, which the judge was very mad at me about for doing,   which I I I it just blows my mind how judges can be mad at you exercising your rights.  

But You think you're like a missing   No. Rittman Danis is a little different. So the Rittman Danis is when is when you go to the when you go up to an upper court to tell them to stop,   something, but this is a writ of probation. So you're saying hold everything.   Let's sort this out first and find out the legality.   Right?   And then,   that was   Mark,   straw man who he that was his recommendation. I I just went and did it. As soon as she said it, I said, that's a great idea. I'm gonna do it. And then so they held that off. They pushed the data out a little bit further.   And in the meantime, I'm sending them some other stuff. They're ignoring everything I send in as if it means nothing.  

So I decided, well, what I'm gonna do is a writ of the Lourenco.   And,   just kinda thinking about it is, like, well, what's their authority? Because a writ of Pilarinto is when you're asking under whose authority or what authority are you doing this action on. So And you're doing it from a position of the people too.   Yes. I did it as right, as one of the people.   And so then I said that this cause, came on regularly for trial before the court.   Right? And then I appeared,   for the defendant.   And, I I put the attorney general on this and the secretary of state on this and the governor's office. And I told them that they had, rogue agents operating in this city.   And I said that,   what happened and here's what I did. I went back all the way to the initial   the incorporation   articles that the city was founded on. Okay?  

And what they did was that they said that they would uphold the laws of the of of the state,   the, the the federal and state constitutions.   And they said by virtue of this earlier,   bill that was put in by the New Jersey legislation in the 18   like the 1840s.   So I went to that legislation and says that any borough, they will borough,   if they want to be incorporated, must uphold the laws   and the constitution of the United States. And I said, well, there you go.   That's it. So I had a list of constitutional   violations from this from the city.   So I put I listed them all out. I said they violated this on here. They violated that on there. They violated this right. They violated this constitutional provision. They I put in some of the article violations. I put in some of the state's,   constitution violations, federal constitution violations regarding either the bill of rights or in the articles.  

And I said that the defendant has offered as,   I called them the defendant.   So I said the defendant has offended   against the provisions of the act under which it was created and has violated provisions of law,   whereby it has forfeited its charter and become liable to be dissolved by abuse of its power.   Okay.   And then I said that the city, right, is gonna be,   that I would be hereby appointed receiver of all property, real or personal, things and actions and effects of the said corporation   held by invested in, and it'll be turned over to the people.   The people would will hold an election and decide upon that election of what to do with said property.  

And I submitted that into the attorney general. I submitted that into the secretary of state. I submitted it into the governor's office.   And I'm saying within, like, a few hours, the the court had totally changed its tune with me.  

[01:57:37] Unknown:

Wow. And they said, can can you come in? And the judge was I was I thought you said she was ugly. She was very nice, though. Right? He said, would you please go talk to the prosecutor?  

[01:57:49] Unknown:

Yeah. She was very nice to me then.  

[01:57:52] Unknown:

Yeah.   Would you please go talk and what did mister prosecutor say? Could you please just do some discovery so we can wrap this up?  

[01:58:01] Unknown:

He he I walked in there. He goes, hey. Listen. He didn't even ask me my name. He knew who I was automatically. He goes, hey. Listen. I have to afford you your rights. Okay? You have a right to discovery. You have you you know, I I can't violate your rights. So here's what what I'm gonna do.   All these all these motor vehicle charges are no. He said all the felony charges, they're they're gone. Alright? So they're just off the table. So here, I I'll just do that. He just crossed it off on the thing. And then he goes, okay. So the motor vehicle   charges. He says, what what's up with those? I said, well, it's not mine. He goes, fine. They're gone. They're gone. Right?  

And then he said, well, look. I have to give you discovery before I can close out this case. Okay? I have to I have to afford you due process. I can't just kinda bypass due process. So I have to give you discovery in order to have this case closed out. So they pushed it all the way to April.   I got a notice in the mail. It says that,   I have to appear in April for this case to finish out the the court case.  

[01:59:02] Unknown:

Are you gonna ask him, is he wanting discovery on you, or is he wanting you to get discovery on him, or you just wanna factually get it out of the way so there's no appealable issue?  

[01:59:12] Unknown:

He's giving me well, yeah. The he doesn't wanna do an appeal. He wants to make sure that   they don't wanna do an appeal because I think if if they were to find anything guilty, the appeal would go right to the full warranto.  

[01:59:25] Unknown:

The higher you go, the more chance you're gonna get real law.  

[01:59:31] Unknown:

No.  

[01:59:35] Unknown:

Wow. Joe, I can't commend you enough. It's the biggest win we've had since I've been on the air. And, I'm so proud of you and the way you've diligently   pursued it. You never got upset. You're very level headed. You just took one step after another. And Mark comes in and shows Mark's value to what we do here. I wouldn't have known to tell you to do that.   And, you've got a sterling victory.   And we'll see as we go forward about you going back and talking to mister policeman and mister judge about maybe helping to cover you because,   you need some punitive damages. Don't you?  



[02:00:13] Unknown:

Yeah. I think I would say so. I had a car with I lost my car for a whole week.   Yeah.   Yeah. My wife was very distraught for about 6, 7 months. Oh, I'm sure that gonna do if I'm in jail.  

[02:00:26] Unknown:

Right. Yeah.  

[02:00:28] Unknown:

Baby's growing, probably need a new set of clothes or 2. Some of that, I think that's a good idea. And what we need out of this for us   is we we'd like to have their scalps   so we can put them on our belt and show other people   the what they're messing with.   Hot potato, hot potato.  

[02:00:50] Unknown:

Well, thank you, Roger.   Yeah. The the ridicule warrant was my own idea,   but it so I I think if Mark didn't give me that prohibition idea,  

[02:00:59] Unknown:

we we might be talking a different story right now. Yeah, man. God bless him. Mark will probably be back with us maybe this week. I don't know what's going on with him. Anyway, glad you're here, Jason.   We'll if you want, come back if you can tomorrow, and we'll pick this up and explore it more for you. Everybody learns. We've got some other new students here too, and,   you just can't get enough of basics on this stuff, and we'd like to show you,   how you can make sure   that what you've got in there is working and operable. So nice to meet you also. Send me an email. I'll hook you up with Bob, and we'll see you in the audience.   Okay.  

So Paul pressed some buttons there. I don't know which ones.  

[02:01:52] Unknown:

Joe Joe Illustrious.  

[02:01:55] Unknown:

I tell you, Joe, I'm so proud of you. I feel like you're my son, you know.  

[02:02:02] Unknown:

I I appreciate that, Roger. Very much so.   Yeah. I grew up without a father. You know?   Oh, did you? Had a dad. Oh. Yeah. There's no there's none listed on my birth certificate either.  

[02:02:15] Unknown:

Wow. Well, I'd be more than happy to be your stepdaddy, son. K?  

[02:02:19] Unknown:

I'll   I'll I'll call you Roger.  

[02:02:22] Unknown:

Yeah. Hey, Larry. What you got?  

[02:02:25] Unknown:

I was just gonna ask Joe if he's going to actually go through the whole,   process of   conducting discovery with interrogatories,   request for admissions, and production of documents.  

[02:02:42] Unknown:

Yeah.   Since since they wanna give me discovery, I'm gonna do all that.  

[02:02:48] Unknown:

It it may be a golden opportunity. There's no telling what you might could scratch out of there.  

[02:02:55] Unknown:

Joe, didn't you didn't I thought I heard someone say that your case was sealed.  

[02:03:01] Unknown:

Yes.   So yes. It it's been sealed, by the way. Yeah. So you can't actually even access it.   There was a guy who has access to a federal database,   and,   he said, I'll run your passport for you and tell you what it says.   So he ran it, and he confirmed it says that I'm a national, not a US citizen. He says, it's on there. He goes, yeah. They he the guy didn't really know if that was a real thing or not. So he was, like, I'm I was curious to see it. He goes, okay. So there is something about these passports   and doing that status update. So, Roger,   everything you've been saying to everyone   is 100% validated, this ex Secret Service guy.  

And, anyway but when he he started telling me about court cases I've been to since I was 18 years old, he goes, yes. And you've been arrested here. You got you went to court here.   I'm like, oh, jeez. He's got access to everything, doesn't he? He goes, I don't have access to a case that you just went through, though.   He says it's under seal, so no one can see it. It's under seal at that level?   At the municipal level. Yeah.  

[02:04:07] Unknown:

Holy shit. So how can that out. But how can you  

[02:04:13] Unknown:

Joe? Because, I mean, like, if they're giving discovery, it should be able people should be able to see that.  

[02:04:19] Unknown:

No. That's exactly what they're giving them discovery   because they don't want any appealable issues.   And they've got it under seal already   where even somebody with that kind of clearance can't see it. Joe, do you gotta give you you've got copies of all the paperwork, don't you? Well, you will have as they exit. Yeah. Out. Good lord.   I don't know that I've ever known anybody that had their case put under seal before. Congratulations.   You're stepping on somebody's toes.  

[02:04:51] Unknown:

Oh, man. I was very shocked to hear that. And he because he's like, this guy has access to everything. He was telling me about all the things I've done with the courts throughout all the years because I've been in and out of the court system since I was 18.   And he goes, yeah. This this is under seal. I can't he's like, I can't have access to this. And maybe he's got a knife tool Alright. Hold on several.  

[02:05:12] Unknown:

For a while. Mark, Mark, you're cutting out a little bit. Talk k. What's your question again, please? Rod, Joe,  

[02:05:20] Unknown:

shared a story with us a long time ago, a while ago,   about them using the pocket knife against him. And I guess they were using it as a tactic   on him   every single time.  

[02:05:32] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. Is it one you'd like to clean your fingernails with? For a pocket knife.   Is it one you'd clean your fingernails with? A little one or a little bigger? Or, well, how big a size is it? How many inches? 35? One of those, like, 3, 4 inch ones, you know, the ones that you kinda, you know, you clip to your your belt?   Yep.   Yep. Yeah. Well, any old any old excuse will do.   That's oh, man. If you got these guys, you can take these boys out to dry out to dry, I think. What if you went to small claims court, what's the limit their their monetary limit there in New Jersey?  

[02:06:08] Unknown:

More claims, I think it's 10,000.   This this is the actual knife. I don't know if you can see it. Anyone who's got the video I can't. You can see this. Uh-huh. Yeah. This is the actual knife that, they tried to give me 13 years for.  

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Comment?  

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Yeah. Hey, Tom. Yeah. I I couldn't figure out what you're saying.   What about this little deal here? This little nugget,   Tom?  

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What is the if you open the blade and you put the butt of the blade up to against, like, your pinky,   does it does it go across your palm? Does it extend beyond your palm?   No.   Okay. So then that's that's basically the the, you know, the judgment on whether, you know, it's legal or not.   And New Jersey I mean, I hated New Jersey when I lived there. I mean, it was just nuts.   But,   what I was gonna say was,   you know, I remember back in,   in Miranda versus Arizona, there was a,   a statement in there that,   the exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted to a crime. So if they ever tried to pull that crap on you again,   you know, use that. I gotta grab the call. Hang on, guys. Okay. I see, John. Hey, Roger.  



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Yes. Larry.  

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Yeah.  

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Who's,   who's the gentleman that ran his passport   and found out he was a national?  

[02:07:36] Unknown:

That's a guy who lives down in Orlando. He's a new New York transplant. I believe his name is Dave.   I don't know his last name.   Pretty close to you there.  

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No. No. For that ran Joe's passport.  

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Oh, he has buddy that was the next secret service guy.  

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Yeah. It's, it's a friend of a friend and he was like because this other guy, my friend, was talking to him one day and he goes, oh, yeah. You can do this with the passport. And he goes he's like, that's that's a load of crap.   Right?   And,   he said, well, my buddy did this process. Why don't we run his passport and see? So, you know, he asked me if I would do it. I said, sure. Go ahead. And that's what he came back with. He goes he goes, yeah. There really is something to this. He goes, it says right here that you're a national and not a US citizen.   He goes, I'm he's like, I've never even seen that before. So he was kinda dumbfounded about that, but then he was going through because when he pulls it up, it has access to your entire   history,   from 18 on. Is there anything to 18 doesn't really count? So he couldn't see any of that. Yeah. But he said at 18 he's like, you must have just turned 18 because you got arrested. And I was like, yeah.  

Oh,   that's pretty accurate stuff he was talking about from the record.  

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You know, it's it's right in front of everybody.   Part go ahead.  

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Joe, you might, consider,   using Jack's process on Telegram,   and he was able to,   put a request in   to the Department of State, and they sent him back everything in his file,   including the application   and his, affidavit that says he's a national.  

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I think that's a privacy request he submitted.  

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Yeah. I I know what you're talking about. Someone did I did talk to someone about that one day and asked, I'll do that.   But, yeah, that's a great idea.  

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But, yeah, he's asking me to show that. Did  

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the circus service friend say that there was a DND on your passport   status?  

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They they didn't say anything like that. No. He I mean, I can ask him, find out, get more information about it, but they didn't say anything like that. He just said that my related to court case says I've been involved in a court case and it's sealed,   and you can't tell me they said it's so sealed, they won't even tell them what town it's in. They say they won't even mention what town or anything like that. So it's just completely   it just says The it just has my name, and it says the state, and that's it. You can't see anything else.  

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The truth is a mighty   weapon,   folks.   You're seeing it right here.   K? But what I'm saying is that of you, ma'am.  

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Pardon me. What's the name of Jack?  

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Yeah. What's the name of Jack's,   Telegram channel?  

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Well, that was on National Status Freedom.  

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Telegram channel.   From Colorado.   Colorado boy.   And see, and and you know, people are so skeptical and everything, and it just comes back to basics is, these guys aren't as powerful as they want you to think they are. And there's thing they can influence and manipulate,   but they can't change. And, this is one of the things they can't change,   is you get to decide what set of laws you want to live under. And, if you don't, it's tyranny.   They can't alter that.  

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Roger, I wanted to add something else. When you started your conversation out with Jason,   earlier in the show,   I you know, there's a lot of students, and Mirka brought this up, that there's some, there's some teachers out there that are teaching   you to become a noncitizen   national, which we all know is American Samoan. But you and I had this discussion in the summer that even if you put on your affidavit that I want to be a noncitizen   national,   the Department of State, you you said that they would probably even acknowledge that as,   as a determination that you wanna be a national because a US citizen cannot become an American Samoan.  

You have to be born there, and you and a US citizen cannot even own land.   The the tribes and the chiefs down there have control of everything.  

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Mhmm.   You know who's a American Samoan, don't you?   What's that?   You know who's an American Samoan   that's in the news is Tulsi Gabbard.   She was born on American Samoa.   I don't know if she knows all this or anything else. It's just in conversations,   it was brought up that she's an American Samoan. For me, that's not in the book because even when the book was written, I didn't know about that. It was only after that that I found out about it. So there's a lot. Jason, you said you just about finished reading it. Julie's I don't know where she is, but I know she's got it. But there's a lot of things I didn't know back then, but I'm not gonna go back in and alter that book because it's a masterpiece the way it is, and I'm just not touching it.   Folks can stumble on it, and it's still loaded with basics.  

They're pure gems. All those old English jurists,   all the court cases,   the way the whole thing is put together.   Glenn is a brilliant writer,   and he's, you know, took my manuscript and made that book out of it. And I'm very proud of it. So That is It's really a a lot of holes for me.   Yeah. Oh, yes. It gives you the foundation.   So it's a yes. Oh, well, there's a lady then. Of course, you may.  

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Thank you, dear.   I wanna say to Joe,   job well done, good and faithful servant. And Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, when he couldn't get Sandy Willis's information, he kept stonewalling him.   He owes him personally over $21,000.   So, Joe, you're in a great place   to get your come up in.  

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So Yeah. They just won some kind they so they somebody had to pay court costs on one of their suits, I heard. I don't remember what it was specifically. I heard somebody say   Fannie Willis of Georgia. She Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. That's right. That little that little wonderful gem.   Okay. Yeah. That nest of   corruption   in downtown Atlanta.   Downtown Atlanta is a black hole,   and everything   gets sucked into it.  

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And number 2, if I may,   you mentioned earlier the 9,   legal,   landmines   and Yes. The 14th amendment. Could you repeat that? I have a new new listener sitting at my kitchen table. Okay. Well,  

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alright. All persons, persons illegal landmine,   born, connects the feudal system back to the system by giving you assigning your, political status on where you're born, not who your parents are, or naturalized.   They used to naturalize   people at the state level   into state citizenship.   This 14th amendment took that over and made it all federal, all persons born or naturalized   in the United States.   Was that the United States or is that the United States of America?   Comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof   and   notice it doesn't say are. All persons born or naturalized   are   subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It doesn't say are. It says and. Okay? Subject. What's the subject? King has subjects.  

You're in subjection to,   jurisdiction   thereof.   Jurisdiction.   How is it applied?   Comma. Citizen our citizens of the United States.   Another one. Technical legal term. And the state wherein they reside, and all these definitions   they've got under resident. I think you'll see 9 of them there.  

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Thank you, Roger. I appreciate you. I yield. Okay. Okay.  

[02:16:01] Unknown:

Sorry about that, Roger. And and they don't teach I'm back. And a bunch of that stuff in there, they're not even teaching in law schools and probably haven't for close to a 100 years.   The concept of person. We had one of our students, that's what I say on here. Now I know this because my John Benson was my teacher. He didn't any great things I've conjured up is the Lord put me in a position where I could interact with these guys for 6 months   and longer, but before when they were actively teaching. And, John, I the subject matter was fascinating to me. I knew something had wrong been wrong for since I was a teenager in the sixties, but I never could pinpoint it. Well, now I have this thread, the tax movement, and this great teacher. And he was a great teacher, and I was a good student. And it it it scratched my itch, If you knew what what I mean, it blew my dress up. And so I got very involved in it and studied it a lot and,   here we are.  



[02:17:03] Unknown:

K? Hey, Roger. This is Chris. I've got a question.  

[02:17:06] Unknown:

Hey, Chris. Oh, good. Glad you're there, man. How are you?  

[02:17:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Just fine. Just fine. Yeah.   Yeah. I had a good a good weekend, and   things are looking good. I'm just working on this   request for   individual access to records protected under the privacy act   Yes. Where it says some status.   Now when I did this with,   Christopher Gronski in, New Hampshire,   with the explanatory statement,   everything was state citizen. We didn't do anything national. It's all state citizen.   So I'm requesting direct,   it says citizenship status on number 5.   And I I'm I was putting National   with a capital N   slash state citizen, capital s, capital c   slash Wisconsinite.  



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What do you think about that? Well, you could do that. I'm not gonna penalize you for it. All you have to say is national. They know what you're talking about.   Just now okay. Good. Good. Would that be with a capital n or small? No. It it doesn't matter. Depends on its context in the sentence or position, I guess.   You could say Okay.   You could say national   for state citizen would be correct.   K? But it's here's the problem. You don't see that anywhere. They've scrubbed it since the forties when they switched the label to national.   So it's in the old court cases, all that stuff. Yeah. And they know what you're talking about, but it's in nothing modern. And you don't see it referred to as that. It's a they're trying to hide this thing. That's why they wanted to change it. You could also say capital c citizen of the United States of America   because that's what you are too, you know. And one way that we found   to prospect these concepts   is to take this equivocation   that we're talking about here, citizen of the United States, citizen of the United States of America,   And take that and ask somebody, hey, are you a citizen of the United States? Are you a citizen of the United States of America? Because they think it's the same thing. They've bought the equivocation.  

And you're gonna go and say, well, those are totally different. One's a slave and one's a free man. Which one's which, you think?   Yeah.   Hey, Roger. Okay. Yes, Larry. I have something for Yeah. The,  

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the in the organic statute at large and in the INA,   national is not capitalized.   Yes. Only capitalize it if it's at the beginning of a sentence.  

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That's what I'd say.   Even in the found where they first laid it in, which is in a piece of legislation   called the Nationality   Act of 1940.   That's in the statutes at large. And right under that are a number of about 7 or 8 definitions.   And definition a, it's like I was saying a minute ago, they always put the hook at the first.   Definition a and it says a national and it's not capitalized there.   A national   owes total allegiance   to a small s state. Now, a little further down, they show you what a federal state is and give you examples   and it's capitalized.  

So there is the statement where they first changed it to national and look where they hid it. You see how important it is as to where they place it now that we know the way that they do things.   Yeah. They do it all over the place. I mean, I could sit here and probably name 7 or 8 places where it's right at the front of whatever you're talking about.   And here's I see what they're doing. They're sticking it on the first page and then giving you 800 pages underneath it. Well, they know you're not gonna see it at the first. You're gonna be thinking about what you gotta read through. And it's all complicated and as Woodrow Wilson said about the tax code, antiquated and burdensome.   Is the tax code antiquated and burdensome?  

There's a guy,   named Barker. He was a senator in the forties.   Very powerful.   President pro tem of the senate or something, and at one point he resigned and every senator wrote a letter and signed it asking him to come back. He was the, evidently, back then, the senate had a ways and means committee, which is where they generate up budgets and stuff. And he was the chairman of that very powerful position.   And being as was the ways and means, he was over taxation.   And one of his statements, John and Glenn found this when they were writing the tax book. He said,   every year we call the folks treasury over and sit down with them and ask them if we can simplify the tax code. And   every year,   they go back   and then come back with something that even Solomon   and all of his wise men could not interpret.  

That's from the end of the Ways and Means Committee of the Senate. It's intentionally that way, obviously.   And there's the hook where, if you look, pick up a count, 26 CFRs right on the top right. Bam, 1.1   dash 1 a. You don't get much closer to the front of the book than that.   But and they want you to think they're all powerful and they can be if they've got jurisdiction on you. But once they don't,   they're just a bunch of rich old damn Jews who have stolen everything they got and they it's just the Wizard of Oz scenario.   It's the wizard. Same thing.  

Roger. So, Jason, we're glad you found us, man, and joined us and, you know, you   you found the pure vein of truth,   one of the the only place I know of on the face of this earth. So congratulations.   Obviously, the Lord is working in your life. What you got there, Joan?  

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Do you know the difference between someone using the word nationalist   versus national?  

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No. You could really do if you've got our kind of knowledge, you could,   know that they're the same thing.   I   I But people under hear the term, Joan, but they don't have enough knowledge   to understand these differences that we're talking about here and how important   knowing about that and recognizing it is.  

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Roger.  

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So some Yes. Someone who does know   someone   who someone who does know about the national status and what all it means,   if so if they if they   said to someone,   if, if, yeah, I'm a national, and the person that they're talking to said, oh, you're a nationalist?  

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And then the national would could say yes or In a sense. Exactly. It no. Yeah. Well, here's what I do in that circumstance,   is I turn it around and say, what what do you think a nationalist is? And let them tell you.   Then you know what they think.   And he said, well, here's another here's another perspective on that I think you might find interesting and launch into your spiel.  

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I was reviewing that because they're teaching that in in the public school system   for children to get ready to   live in communism,   and,   they they're trying to teach that to the people or the students in school. So now They're just not  

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it's not a place taught nothing hell for these son of a bitches, Merica.  

[02:24:43] Unknown:

Right. Right.   They're they're trying to teach him that this is a good thing, and nationalist is more of a new world order kind of thing, and nationalist is completely different. There's a different definition.   I have to go find the the national's information, but I was reviewing that too. And I'm like, I can't believe that they're teaching this   in the public system. Because I was looking online to see if there's any free,   like, things that I can learn. And Well I saw that. I was like, I can't believe it.  

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Well, good lord willing, about a week from today, there's gonna be a new sheriff in town. And one of the first things they vowed to do, we'll see how for real Trump is, is rip out the NEA by the roots. And they've taken that and turned it over to a Jewess in New York named a perverted Jewess in New York, I believe named Weinstein.   And she she and that organization,   the way they do, they're highly organized,   have perverted the whole damn education   system in the country even to the point of private schools.   If I can break it down real quick. I got no I got no kids. I don't know. That's what I hear. There's Brent, though. I know I know that. Hey, buddy.  



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Hey.   Before we negotiate,   let us define our terms. Yeah. Let us divide Voltaire.  

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Voltaire knew what they were doing. They made that wrote that statement.   Before we discuss,   let us define our terms.   He also said this,   to learn who rules over you,   look to who you cannot criticize.  

[02:26:24] Unknown:

Roger.  

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Larry.  

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Hey.   Speaking of defining your terms, I'd like to encourage,   Joe,   when he does write out his interrogatories   and his request for admission and production of documents,   There's 3 classifications   there   that he definitely needs to define all the terms at the very beginning.  

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Oh, yeah. Well, you you know, for y'all that might not know, you can do that in any lawsuit.   If he's the suits he's gonna bring, you can start to see it with definition of terms. Up is down, left is right, blah blah blah, black is white, and the whole rest of that suit, even if it reaches the United States, Supreme Court of the United States of America,   has to go by those defined terms.   Yeah, that's the way it is. That's how they They're doing some of this stuff. They do it Notice they do the They're non resident alien right at the first.   You won't find the definition of that, I don't believe. K? Holocaust  

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folks.  

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Oh, and all of it. It's just,   I you we just gotta get away from these people, folks.   They are no good no good to deal with.   And that's why the old Jews don't like them so much is because they understand what Zionism is, is making them like chameleons   and mixing among us so they can fleece us. And they know damn well that when the whole thing breaks, which is what it's kind of doing right now, that it's the orthodox Jews that are gonna get blamed for it too, and they don't want any part of it.   These impostors that are doing this.   Anyway folks, I'm gonna go get some lunch. Anybody else got anything for me today? Good brisk,   conversational   show. We got new blood, Jason, and we can go back and start rehashing all that.  

So, good show today and we're growing nice briskly here at the start of the year.  

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Roger. Hey. Hey, Roger. This is Chris in Florida.  

[02:28:31] Unknown:

Hey, Chris.  

[02:28:32] Unknown:

Hey, man. How are y'all?  

[02:28:35] Unknown:

Well, we're good. How are you? You're good.   Yeah. Well, we all,   you're in touch with Bob down there. Right, Chris?  

[02:28:47] Unknown:

I hadn't gotten in touch with Bob.  

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I hadn't heard that. Y'all ought to plan a   dinner over there at, our buddy's restaurant, that Greek restaurant. I bet you just have a feast and a great time together. We're sat in Tarpon Springs?  

[02:29:04] Unknown:

Yeah.   Safety harbor.   The old Athens Greek. It's safety harbor.  

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Uh-huh.  

[02:29:11] Unknown:

That Yeah. I got   a quick report.   Okay. Good. It it'll tie into Joe's,   that secret service guy running his,   passport in the Right. CCIC system.   Well, mine is the traffic,   traffic violation. I ran a stop sign,   and I got pulled over here by my local county sheriff. It was my actual first interaction with the local county sheriff here in Orlando County.   And I had notified them   a few years back before we   finally   completely moved to Florida,   when we were living in Tennessee. So but I had sent him notice   along with the,   all the attorneys here in in this county and the state of Florida, attorney general and all that good stuff. And,   nonetheless,   so the sheriff pulled me over and stopped. So I was like, well, I'll just pay the fine he got me.  

Yeah. I ain't gonna fight and argue with him. And, so he I still I had a driver's license before I changed my national status, so I I keep it. And I just gave him driver's license. He went and ran it, and he came back in a hurry.   Thank you for your service. Have a good day, mister Parks.  

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Really?  

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In a quick   hurry, he came back   and gave him my driver's license as if I had played on me or something.  

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So occasionally   There  

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there's no Go ahead, sir. In Hernando, Canada. They don't have police here. They only have sheriff, so the sheriff's have to be able to run everything. So I I think that they've got access to the NCIC system that you could run a police report.  

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Right.  

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Because there are no police in this in this city here in Spring Hill. It's it's the sheriff's. It's the almighty time. But the sheriff's officer is pretty they're, you know, they're pretty good guys. I've never had any I'm sure they are. Yeah. Yeah. I can make it.  

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First of all, it's great to hear your voice.   2nd of all, good to know you're you're you're you're fine in your mood with all that hurricane activity and crap that goes through there.   And,   man, did you scan that book   cause a chain reaction   that we're I'm still trying to unravel.   Nothing to do with you, obviously, but we didn't know anything but to put it in my account.   And little did I know that you can't put another author's book into your account and sell it. And therefore, that and, it's just a big mess. I'm so we're still trying to figure it out. So, anyway but thank you. This is the guy, Chris, that scanned. He worked at a law firm in Nashville   and, scanned United Slaves of America in where we can make it available. And,   we sure appreciate you, Chris. How are you liking your,   retirement and living in Florida?  



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Oh, it's good. It's good.   We got welcomed with 2 back to back hurricanes in 1 week there, but Yeah. Welcome. Good.  

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That's   one of the reasons I wanted to leave Florida was at right there.   So Yep. I just hate those things. Yeah, Samuel.   Good to see good to hear your voice, Chris. I'm glad you're listening.  

[02:32:23] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd like to get I'd like to get a hold of Joe's email. I wanna talk with him,  

[02:32:28] Unknown:

in private. If he Okay. Well, we're we're   not broadcasting.   It's just us girls   here in the after show.   Joe, if you wanna give it out or, Chris, if you wanna send me an email and I'll 4 and I'll forward it to Joe. Somebody else just did that the other day.  

[02:32:47] Unknown:

Okay. We actually   are broadcasting.   Global Voice is still alive. As long as there's an after show, it's still online.  

[02:32:59] Unknown:

Okay. And I'm glad Paul is on here because, Paul, I still have these 2 servers sitting in my garage.  

[02:33:06] Unknown:

There we go.  

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Oh, well, Georgia ain't that far away from Florida. It was not. And you're in kind of the mid to a little higher than that in Florida. And we got another guy in Michigan that's got one that he wants to do something with and set up for archives. So and if you're listening to the guy, I I your email got mingled with a whole bunch of stuff. I just lost it. So I keep appealing to him to write me another one. I'll make sure to get it designated.   But we got some of that going on. That's fantastic.   I think Bob was first. Bob?  

[02:33:41] Unknown:

Yeah. Chris, where are you at   in in Orange County?  

[02:33:45] Unknown:

I'm in Hernando County in Spring Hill Oh. Just north of Tampa.  

[02:33:50] Unknown:

Okay. Sorry. I thought I heard you say something about Orange County. Okay.   Well, I'm not sure if we tried to get together in the past, but if you can give Roger your email, I can get with you. I wouldn't mind getting you in my   contacts.  

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Yeah. And we're getting more and more people in the Florida area, and it sets up this situation where, should y'all want to,   you can   get a designated place and maybe go spend the afternoon together or something. Your choice. It's just good to know the other folks in the area. You know?  

[02:34:23] Unknown:

Roger?  

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Samuel was there. Yes. Samuel.  

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Yeah. I just I I don't contact Joe very often,   but I just wanted to let him know that he should look for I sent him,   some information   on how to calculate   compensatory and punitive damages.   Yep. But, you know, for all of us, what's really important is he's not doing this as a citizen. He's doing this as a national.   And if we can get   compensation   for him as the national in a complaint,   that would be great.  

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What I've been saying for years, we need somebody to follow-up and take the balls and move forward.   Joe did it. He did an exemplary job of it. He's handled himself spectacularly,   and and he won.   K? So congrats, Joe, and what an example you've set for us. Thank you so much.   Roger? See, we know we know now a little bit more of a format should somebody else get in one of these situations.   And, Joe, I was thinking,   when you   sign off on this, are they gonna stipulate your versions under seal 2? You can't talk about it?   I bet I bet it is.  

Yes, Samuel.  

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No. It was Larry.   You may wanna let Jason know that if he has any reservations or doubts   about anything he filed, you know, after having talked with you,   he could always resubmit paperwork, and it will   replace the existing paperwork.  

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Right. Yeah. And if you wanna do that one of my   questions is is should I should I consider redoing my paperwork? But what I what I was thinking, Roger, is I could shoot you a copy of what I sent as my   explanatory statement.  

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Well, well, I think   it it doesn't matter necessarily   what it says in the specifics.   It matters what it says in the general term and that you're rebutting their presumption that you've agreed to previously   and undoing it. And I think what you read me would suffice.   However,   you may want to use ours and redo it. You all you'd have to do   is to order a new passport card and include the new affidavit,   and you can just read the other book. It probably still applies to the book. Do you travel internationally, Jason?  

[02:36:53] Unknown:

No.  

[02:36:54] Unknown:

That's the only reason you need to push from I'm actually I'm down here in Florida right now temporarily. I'm I'm normally in Virginia, but I'm down here for the winter.  

[02:37:03] Unknown:

Okay. What part of Virginia are you normally in? We got some Virginia heights here on the call. What part of that wonderful state,  

[02:37:11] Unknown:

were you done? South Hill South Hill, Virginia. I'm about a north about about an hour north of Raleigh.  

[02:37:17] Unknown:

Okay. Over on that side. Okay.   Yep. Well, Julie, new student Julie here. She's right outside of DC and close to Arlington somewhere up there and several other, and we've got some spectacular   gals there. And, one of them is married to an anesthesiologist   that   literally left his job at the hospital because he wouldn't take the jab.   So we've got some very, very sharp people that are very principled here. And this information, if you're a principal oriented person, just makes you more principled, really.  

[02:37:52] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. Jason.   We can get Jason on, National Status Freedom. He'll get personalized help if he needs it. Okay. You know about our our resources? Here's our resources.  

[02:38:05] Unknown:

Jason 1 Yep. Mark Mark is one of them here. Yes, dear?  

[02:38:10] Unknown:

I just wanted to let him know that I can also connect him with,   the Virginia people,   Dora and Julie,   and also Larry.   They're on national status for you with me. Okay.  

[02:38:23] Unknown:

And,   then we've got National Status Freedom. This is on Telegram. If you've got Telegram, just 3 separate words and it'll tap in Mercas,   gatekeeper. She'll,   converse with you and let you in.   We've got another one, nationalstatus.infoorcom,   which is a website that a couple has put together with a lot of very cool   automated stuff. You can write your own affidavit on there, whatever.   They're adding to it all the time. We've got several resources on the website there.   A wonderful book called   the National Citizenship Handbook, I think. Is that the name of it? Devin wrote it.   Seventy one pages.  

Very, very specific.   Extremely well done.   And,   others, there's pamphlets,   three folds you can hand out, print and hand out, and all kinds of stuff that folks have done to help contribute to the effort here.  

[02:39:24] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm very interested in all of that.  

[02:39:27] Unknown:

Alrighty.   Well, we're here 6 days a week,   and we have very interesting discussions and people and   delve into things that very few people   really know, honestly. I I I don't mean to sound egotistical   saying that. It's just the truth.   You know, go ask any lawyer,   or even I dare say any sitting judge,   retired or not, retired ones may know.   What's the legal definition behind the word person?   Let's see if they even know what a person is. Okay? So, that's the kind of stuff I was fortunate enough to be exposed to by John who literally sacrificed   his life   researching this stuff and the law just because he loved it. And then he got really interested in contract law and then he got really interested in tax law. And here we are.  

So, anybody else got anything for me?   I'm about to go hustle some lunch up.  

[02:40:31] Unknown:

Bless you, Roger. Thank you, Sketch.  

[02:40:35] Unknown:

I'll, then I'll see y'all tomorrow, and welcome back, Jason. I'm glad to see Chris with us, and of of course, the effervescent Julie, and, we'll see all of you tomorrow.   Ciao. Ciao.  

[02:40:48] Unknown:

Thank you, Ross. Thank you, Ross. Bye bye.  

[02:40:53] Unknown:

Daniel,   Oh, go ahead.   Samuel, I   I   checked I checked on Amazon. They don't sell Protecto thermal.  

[02:41:08] Unknown:

For a male, which is an Italian Amazon.   So I My name is Marco Mariano.  

[02:41:23] Unknown:

So, Sketch, you checked Amazon, and they do not sell Protectotherm   on there?  

[02:41:28] Unknown:

No. And there were no there was no pricing on the website at all that I could see. You're just gonna have to call them. I'm sure they're very busy,   but, yeah. And, Paul, check your private chat,   about private fog.   There's a video there, but there's also some posts   about,   them testing   the fog in Florida.   And it came back   with, came back with, let's see,   a parasite.   The name is,   just a minute.   Oh, where is it? Just sec.   Well, I'll I'll there.   I wrote it in the chat for you. There's the name of a it's a bacteria,   that they supposedly found in the fog.  



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Parasite. The parasite.  

[02:42:29] Unknown:

It's a parasite.  

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And there's a burning platform. Oh, here it is.   It's called c   ceratiamarsens   bacteria,   supposedly.   I don't know if that x post is legitimate,   because I went to the x   person's thing and it wasn't there. But now   on the burning platform, they have something some video that says it was tested,   but I didn't get to watch it yet.  

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Okay.  

[02:43:07] Unknown:

How do you My my bio biological warfare?  

[02:43:11] Unknown:

Yes. Yes. Basically.  

[02:43:17] Unknown:

Yeah. If the guy doesn't contact me in,   about a sample, then I guess I'll give him a call because,   it's pretty hard to believe, really,   It's such a video.  

[02:43:29] Unknown:

Yeah. It is. I don't know if you watched the video, but there's a video,   very powerful   presentation there.  

[02:43:38] Unknown:

Yeah. I was I was particularly impressed by just using that,   USP   envelopes twice, one with protection and one without.   Yeah. That says a lot, to me. That the penny stuff and all that are you know? But   how it stopped the burn from,   spreading at all on that piece of cardboard. And I'm assuming it was only coated on one side. But   again, I'd love to get myself a sample and get my own paint. Mix it up. Do it. I mean, there's people who pay me to repaint their houses. I'm sure.  

[02:44:12] Unknown:

Yep. Yep.  

[02:44:14] Unknown:

And they also have a a a an egg test. They they covered the protectotherm   on an egg. I forget the time that it took to burn through the egg, but,  

[02:44:25] Unknown:

you have a hard time with that one too.  

[02:44:28] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Understood.   I yield.  

[02:44:35] Unknown:

Okay.   So if you do not have   MNS   in the house,   you'd better get it and fast.   It's the only thing I know of that will wipe out parasitic infection,   lickety split.   And that act I mean, I actually have MMS on my desk,   and that might actually be why. None of that fogshit affected me. None of it.   Oh,   just saying.  

[02:45:11] Unknown:

Somebody put in the chat a few days ago. I'm putting in the chat right now. It's I think it's called,   Cerafix.   It it's a tablet. You could make your own with the you drop a tablet in there. I've never seen that before.   Oh, sorry. That's in private chat. That's to you. Just a minute.   Yeah. It's   called saffrax.com.   I've somebody put it in the chat. It's tablets   to make   DMSO,   but I've never seen that. I don't know if it works, but it's in the chat. D m  

[02:45:53] Unknown:

DMSO and   MMS are 2 entirely different things.  

[02:45:58] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:46:01] Unknown:

Entirely different.  

[02:46:04] Unknown:

Well, it's in the chat if anybody's interested. I think I don't know if works, but   it's in the chat.  

[02:46:14] Unknown:

Got it.  

[02:46:21] Unknown:

Wow. Wow. Saphrax.  

[02:46:24] Unknown:

It makes DMF   It makes the MFO?  

[02:46:31] Unknown:

It,   I I'm not there. Just a minute.  

[02:46:36] Unknown:

Uh-huh. I just buy it. Myself.   I'm just I just get it on Amazon.   I get it in   I get it in 16 or 32 ounce bottles.  

[02:46:49] Unknown:

Yep.  

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If I could enter back, this is Bill in Idaho.   I've   heard that the stuff the tablets are good for about a year,   and,   Mike Adams is really into that stuff.  

[02:47:07] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[02:47:09] Unknown:

Especially for his critters.   Yep.  

[02:47:15] Unknown:

Yep.   Safrax.com.  

[02:47:20] Unknown:

William, did you did you post that in the chat? I think that was you. Yeah.  

[02:47:24] Unknown:

Yes, sir. Yep. Yeah. I got I've been using it. It's really convenient. It's tablets, and you can make what whatever percentage   of a chlorine dioxide   solution that you like.   And they've got a couple of products. So what you can get it for old for, your, like, your pool,   maintenance and,   odor,   you know, take care of any kind of orders, and   I I I use it all the time.  

[02:47:59] Unknown:

Thank you, William, for posting that.   Yeah. And, also, while I have you, William,   by any chance, did you post your paperwork   in the,   nose the national status forum, and where where is it there? Do you know what it's under?  

[02:48:18] Unknown:

I   don't recall any paperwork through national status.  

[02:48:22] Unknown:

Oh, you said well, you came on about, 2 or 3 weeks ago and saying you had some,   you   we're talking about a   a situation   that involves paperwork, and you were going to pass it around or   take your personal information off and post it in national status.   I think that was you, William.  

[02:48:48] Unknown:

No. The only thing I I recall, I I was working on getting   those pamphlets, the trifold pamphlets.  

[02:48:55] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:48:56] Unknown:

I'm sorry. Probably somebody else's sketch. Okay. Yeah. You got a good memory, but yeah. No. No. I don't think that was me. Alright.   Yeah. But I I that Safrax is a good stuff, though.  

[02:49:11] Unknown:

Actually, you should be able to make your own   because you can get   sodium chlorite flakes.   The 80% sodium chlorite flakes, you can get those on Amazon,   and you can get citric acid   flakes   or citric acid crystals.   And as long as they're in dry form,   I'm not sure what,   what,   concentration of each   or what measurement of each would be. But as long as they're in dry form, they would be on activated   until   you put them in water.   So you could mix them together in the right proportion   and then put them in a glass and put a half ounce of water in there and just   wait 30 seconds and you would have activated MMS,   I would think.  



[02:50:09] Unknown:

Yeah, Paul. That's that's what I did.   Probably 15 years ago, I bought a pound of the powder,   and then I just buy new citric acid as I need it. And then you   you put both in water. I think it's like I forget   the percentage. I always have to look it up when I go to make it, but it's in Jim Humble's book.   And yeah. K. It can last forever.  

[02:50:35] Unknown:

Well, I have that book, but,   yeah, I've got I've got 2 pounds of citric acid and,   £2 of sodium chlorite flakes, so   I'm good.  

[02:50:49] Unknown:

Can you get forever.  

[02:50:50] Unknown:

Can you get high   what's the word? The acid, the hydrochloric   can you get the hydrochloric acid crystals instead of the citric acid   crystals?  

[02:51:01] Unknown:

I don't know if I would know how that works.   I not that was new to me just from Julie just a week ago. So  

[02:51:08] Unknown:

I don't know if hydrochloric acid is available in a powder. I was looking for it in a powder, but I didn't see it. So  

[02:51:16] Unknown:

I just got the 37 digestive, so I would I would say yes.  

[02:51:22] Unknown:

Okay.   Well, then,   I just got the 37%   liquid   because that was the only thing I was able to find that looked like it,   was reasonably safe. You know?  

[02:51:40] Unknown:

What did you say, Samuel? Did you say hydrochloric acid is available in   gel gel?  

[02:51:47] Unknown:

I've been taking hydrochloric acid with my meals for, I don't know, 15 years.   A a capsule or what? A liquid or It's a cap yeah. If if if if that thing, if you let it soak in your mouth too long and it opens, you know it's hydrochloric acid.   Yeah.  

[02:52:05] Unknown:

Well, don't do that.   And, of course, this program is not intended to treat, diagnose, prevent, or cure any disease and should not be considered medical advice.   If you are seeking health advice or treatment, please refer   to your local,   health practitioner   before acting on any information presented here.   There's our disclaimer. Now we can talk about whatever the   whatever we want to.  

[02:52:36] Unknown:

William?   William, are you still on here?   William that takes the Safrax?   Okay.  

[02:52:53] Unknown:

Yeah. I did that acid thing a while ago, and I got   all pharmaceutical   stuff as high grade as I could.   Mixed it together. It wasn't yellow like the video. It was clear.   Down the road, I ran into a pharmacist,   and he said, yeah. All you did was make pharmaceutical   grade bleach.   That's all you did. And here, this was supposed to be some miracle cure thing. They actually came all wrapped up in   foil and aluminum canister. I think that's where all the money went.   Anyway,   it's probably not what you guys are talking about, but I do remember the expenditures   on that.  



[02:53:34] Unknown:

Just a note on hydrochloric acid   and pepsin.   There's a guy, he's passed now, but he was 40 years of PhD in nutritional health, and he has still has his company down in Austin, Texas called   Quantum Nutrition Labs, and he has hundreds of different supplements there that you can buy. And he used to have a radio show. When he was on, I I called him once, and I said, well, if you're poor   and you can only afford one of your supplements, which one would you suggest?   And he says, hands down,   hydrochloric   acid and pepsin,   because if you can't digest your food properly,   all the nutrition in the world ain't gonna do you a whole lot of good.  



[02:54:21] Unknown:

Jim Humble's book is in the chat, PDF edition.  

[02:54:25] Unknown:

Cool. Thank you.  

[02:54:42] Unknown:

Samuel, that was Quantum Nutrition Labs.   Labs is the third word?  

[02:54:47] Unknown:

Yeah. It's in Austin,   Texas.  

[02:54:50] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:54:51] Unknown:

They got a lot of great stuff there.   I don't know if it's being run as well as when he was alive. I think he passed, like, 3 years ago,   but,   he was a stickler. I   he used to get aloe vera juice that was to die for,   and I couldn't get it for a while.   And, I kept bothering the company and asking the girls, you know, what the heck's going on here? I I wanna get some more of that aloe vera juice.   And he says, well, we rejected 50   55, 50, 55 gallon drums   from South America   because there was something wrong with it when it got here and we're figuring that out. And later on, they figured out that they had irradiated   it   so it wasn't coming up to par for him to sell it, and he did not. He just stopped it for all that period of time   until they got a new supply that wasn't irradiated.  



[02:55:50] Unknown:

I don't remember his name?   Do you remember his name? Samuel,   the   the the man who rejected the aloe vera because it was radiated.  

[02:56:02] Unknown:

It it was doctor Bob Marshall's company?   His protocols,   they test everything coming in and going out. He he was a stickler also. He said that I guess since the,   the anthrax scare, he says the US mail irradiates   everything, and he wouldn't   if you got a supplement from him, he always shipped at UPS.   And he said, you will always get your money back if you have a problem with me, but when you ship it back, if you use the mail,   I'll reject it. He said, if you ship it back UPS, no problem.  

[02:56:40] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:56:44] Unknown:

That's one of those things I've been working on Jim Ram to   try to figure out when it comes to Youngevity,   that their stuff is not   taken the mail route anywhere in its movements, but   tough nut to crack.  

[02:57:06] Unknown:

Samuel?  

[02:57:09] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[02:57:11] Unknown:

Joyce Riley, when she,   mailed out hers, there's a sticker you can get   saying,   live product,   live food,   do not   radiate.   That's what she did.   Seeing this But I don't know how effective that is. I yield.  

[02:57:34] Unknown:

Yes. Seeing this to US government, I don't know if I trust it. Because Marshall said they irradiate everything. And now, you know, whether there's   an exception to the rule. I don't know that they would do that or not, but, you know   and who knows? Maybe even UPS does it now too. You know, I mean,   just beware.  

[02:58:15] Unknown:

Alright. Well, this looks like as good a place as any to shut down the stream for the Radio Ranch   with,   Roger Sales. Today, we had John Kasarab   join us.   Normally talk about the, Hytera,   the Prifightera   wand   on Mondays for the first hour, but we we actually didn't have a chance to do that today.   You can catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 1 PM EST on eurofoakradio.com,   Global Voice Radio Network, and a host of other platforms. You can join us live on the show by going to the matrix stocks.com   and clicking on the free conference call link. So you can either join us by telephone, smartphone,   tablet, or computer,   and actually join us live on the show. We've got room for about a 1,000 of you, so come on down.  

Thanks so much for being with us today. We will catch you right back here   tomorrow at 11 AM EST   on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.   Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

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Bye, diver.  

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Have fun storming the  

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castle.