In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles is joined by co-host Brent Winters for a thought-provoking discussion on various topics, including the role of religion and law in society. The conversation delves into the interpretation of biblical texts, particularly focusing on the concept of God's love and hate, and how these ideas have been understood historically and in contemporary contexts. Brent Winters provides insights into the application of biblical principles in modern life, emphasizing the importance of understanding God's commandments and the role of discernment in navigating moral and ethical dilemmas.
The episode also touches on the historical context of religious influence on law, referencing the Protestant Reformation and the separation from Roman Catholicism. The hosts discuss the implications of religious oaths, such as those taken by judges and Masons, and how these can conflict with civic duties. The conversation extends to the responsibilities of individuals in upholding justice and the role of the militia as outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Throughout the episode, listeners are encouraged to engage with biblical texts personally and reflect on their application in daily life.
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Yep. Changing the world's what we're all about here at the Radio Ranch, and we're gonna take another stab at it right here on this Friday edition. It's Friday, and, of course, that means, usually, Brent, Winters, my cohost on Fridays. We've elevated him many years ago. And he's pretty predictable that he likes to come in here at the last minute or slightly after the last minute, which appears it'll be the case today. Anyway, it is the March 28, and, we are the radio ranch with Roger Sales. And, we are assisted by a number of other platforms, and we, we asked Paul Beaner to step in and identify them and so that we can recognize them for their efforts and to give them proper credit. So, Paul, if you would, please.
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Actually, it's a very, very light day today. We have Oh, yes. Radiosoapbox.com joining us. Thanks to Paul across the drink. We have eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network, a pet project of mine, and free conference call. And a bunch of people in here waiting for us, hanging on every word, no doubt. The Matrix Docs is our website, and the links to free conference call, Global Voice Radio and EuroFolk are right there on that website. Or you can go to radiosoapbox.com and tune us in. Yeah.
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Cool. Did you happen to do the show with Paul yesterday?
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No. Paul did not do a show yesterday. He pushed it off to, I believe, April 3 or something like that. He's still wrapping up some things.
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Sure. Okay. Well, sorry to hear he's having to go through all that, but it's part of life. So, anyway, we'll no doubt inform you all as to that in one of these days. But, we're waiting on Brent. Let's see. So Francine's
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not here. That's two weeks in a row. That's pretty unusual. We don't see the lovely
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Francine up there.
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Roger.
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Well, there's the lovely Joan, so we'll just have her take her place. Yes, ma'am.
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Regarding that female yesterday that that God is, all love and loves everybody, and you said you were gonna ask Grant. I just want to remind you that, I don't know how long ago it was six months or a year ago. Brent said someone was asking about God loving everybody. And I think Brent said something. And you can ask him because you said yesterday you might would ask him. But I think he said like John three sixteen, God so loved the world that he gave his only son. And Brent pointed out that love was in past tense and, like, it was that love was only mentioned once in the bible or something like that, and it was in the past tense.
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So Well, I don't know, Joan. I don't remember. Obviously, you've got some, sketchy memories of it. But guess what? The good news is Brent has just showed up, and, you can, ask the man himself.
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Well, you were gonna ask him. So,
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Well, I can do that too. I mean, it's just this is your morning, Brent.
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Hi, Rob. Sorry. I heard what We already got the fire stoked up for you here, man. Yeah. I got I heard what you said, and, that's an important question. If you look in the New Testament, you'll find that there is no place. Matter of fact, probably the whole Bible in that well, yeah, you could say the whole Bible. Let's just pick the New Testament for now. There's no place where the Bible says that God loves, present tense. Anybody. He does the Bible does say, John three sixteen, the most famous text, God loved, and that's in the past tense. Well, it's in the what they call the Greek heiress. It's a snapshot of what happened instead of a moving picture. That's the way people describe the heiress verb.
But in all of the New Testament, the love of God is summarized, culminated in the person of Jesus Christ, period. And by all of his work and all of his sacrifice in his death, giving himself up to be murdered as a sacrifice, and then in his as a lie his ascent his resurrection and his ascension, that is the definition the ultimate definition of God's love for his people. That's it. And how people feel about it, I've been even how he felt about it isn't relevant. He may have felt affection about it at different points, but the point is he did the thing that he would rather not have done. The thing that was abhorrent, the thing that was difficult, the thing that was repulsive, he did it. And there are a lot of people in the world that demonstrate the love of God by doing the thing that they, like some people say, they'd really rather not do, and they feel no affection for the people they're helping. They just know it's the right thing to do even though the people they're helping are repulsive and loathsome and dirty and mean and all those kind of things. But you still should do. If you do toward every toward those kind of foe, what the Bible commands that you do, that is the definition of the love of God. But on the other hand, most people don't have a clue what the Bible says to do, and they go on their gut feeling about that too, and they don't really look at the Bible. They just think, well, that's a this is a nice thing to do, or that's a nice thing to do, and that may be and probably is the opposite of what God wants you to do. It's been my discovery in life that for what it's worth, this is a personal experiential testimony.
Most times, what I think or what somebody else thinks is the right thing to do. When we go examine the will of God, we discover it's not. Even though we feel like it or just seems like it. But maybe something kinda like it, but the Bible puts the God's will, the record of his will, the Bible, puts another twist on things, but it's just a kilter to what sinful, wrong headed man would think. That's what I noticed about the Bible. Say, wait a minute. I get what he's saying here, and it's just a little bit different than what is popularly thought or what you would normally think would be the right thing in any given instance.
And for this reason, of course, we have analogized it in the past to the man that gets his instrument rating. He learns how to fly by the seat of his pants like my father did after he got back in the war. He learned how to fly an airplane, and he just did it by dead reckoning. You look at the ground and kinda know where you are, and you gotta stick between your legs, and you'd move around a little bit. And, but then you can graduate, which he never did. He quit that. He was working in the oil field and couldn't make any money spending money on flying lessons. It's just something he wanted to do. And, of course, when men got back from the war, they had the GI Bill. And one of the things the GI Bill provided for a lot of World War two veterans was learn how to fly, and a lot of them did, frankly. Yeah.
Yeah. And that was very popular. And their little airport that was, there outside of town that got put in. Old Curran Patchett put in an airport, invested in a runway, started a crop dusting service, and then he made good money teaching, young boys how to fly. Well, but there comes a point where you can become instrument rated with your flying. And once your instrument rated, then you learn not to trust your senses anymore. You don't trust your eyes. You don't trust your feeling of upside down and right side up. You learn to trust what you're looking at on the instrument board.
Because the truth is that as strong as our our logic and our senses is, we're mortal and it can be thrown off real easy. You can think and when you're flying, I've had flyers tell me this. You can think you're right side up in some circumstances, and you're actually upside down. Mhmm. And if you don't trust your instruments and if you trust your your sense of of direction right upside down and right side up in your ears, and that's where that is maintained, that sense of rightness, you could die real easy. Yep. So you learn to trust the instruments. And that's the way it is with God.
You don't trust yourself. No. You trust him, and you trust what he says. And whenever the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket and saying they're right, as happened with COVID, don't tell me it can't happen. It happened. The whole world believed that stupidity. And the whole world took the jab. Oh, the whole world, not just the country. And those of us that had a sense of what God was saying, for whatever reason, we'd looked at the Bible, and we it it does increase your mental ability, by the way, in a lot of ways. Yeah. The spirit of God
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enhances your mind. Go ahead, Roger. I was just gonna say anytime these guys are giving you something for free, there's a hook in it.
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Well, the Bible well, the sense the Bible gives you, it gives you a right headedness. Not only in particular instances, but you just it it point points your nose in the right direction. You're going down this certain path. And if somebody brings some baloney to you, yeah, you woah, wait a minute. That doesn't look right. You'll see it. Don't tell me that people, intelligent people, that I have known when that all happened, they took it hook, line, and sinker, and I asked myself, why? I've known you for decades. You've never been like this because they are it's a as and this is the word that you have used in years past on this show, Roger, the grand delusion.
Yeah. The delusion. And you've talked you've talked about, the love of the lie. The delusion will make you love the lie. And the Bible says that delusion is the tool of the devil, and he can delude anybody. Don't tell me. No. Even the smartest and the most even the most biblical of men can be deluded. You must be, as the Bible says, sober on your guard and bury your head in the Bible. Bury your head you know, bury your brain in the Bible. Soak it in the scriptures. Put it down in mental sod, and then it's there, and it does just affects your whole being, body, soul, and spirit. The word of God affects it all in ways you can't comprehend.
It's not a matter of do this and don't do that, and the Bible says this here. That's true. But once you get a fullness of the sense of God's word and the sweep and the flow of who he is, that at that point, you no longer know about God. You know him because you know his will, and you have a sense of the direction that he takes you. You've got the big picture. That's called discernment, by the way. And the Bible makes it clear that God has given an extra dose of that to the male of the species. And I don't try to explain that. I just know the Bible's clear on that point. It's not one of those places in the Bible we say, well, what does this mean? And then try to interpret it by using other scriptures in this in these cases I'm speaking of, this is the straightforward, unambiguous statement of the Bible on these points.
And to understand our strength, I'm and I speak mostly when I talk. I make a point of talking to men. Oh, I like the ladies to listen, and I appreciate all of them. I love them. I wouldn't be here without them. I wouldn't be what I am without them. I wouldn't have the advantages that I if I have any that if it wasn't for the the female of the species. I understand that. But at the same time, it's the men in our nation, in any nation that are the problem, not the women. And the reason the men are the problem, god says they're the problem, is because they're the ones that have the tool of discernment in a special way, and they're not using that. They're not using it. That's the problem. Well, how do you, man, how do you increase your ability to of discernment?
Again, Joshua chapter one verses eight and nine, God said to the commander of the militia, the 12 tribes of Israel, Five Hundred well over 600,000 of them, 601,000 approximately. They were getting ready to cross the Jordan River from the East to the West to march across and conquer, divide the land of Canaan in half, and then conquer the whole thing, which they did. And God said to Joshua, on the eve of that endeavor, said, you chew. You get the word of God in your system, and you chew it like cud day and night. It is in the forefront of your thinking at all times. The first thing you repair to, you never stop thinking about it. And if you do that, then no matter where your foot treads, you'll conquer.
Do you think things are any different today? We have a land. What no. It isn't. We have a land. The lord our god has given us. What are we supposed to do? God's remnant, god's leftovers to put it in the English are tasked with conquering the land. Wherever you are, friends, you're to conquer it. How do you do that? Well, you don't have to worry about much. All you gotta worry about doing is keeping your your brain bibbling with the biblical mandates to understand the sweep and flow. You can't do it unless you spend time with it, though. And we're talking a little bit about it here now, and most Fridays we do a lot of that. Not sometimes we do, sometimes we don't, but you get a little here. It needs to be what we think about, what we talk about.
What's the most important thing in your life? Well, it should be your father. You live in his presence twenty four seven. Can you imagine growing up in a house? I've seen this happen, and I've learned this lesson when I was young. I'll tell you how it happened. I think I've told the story here, but it had to do with pain and it had to do with getting slugged in the mouth. And my mother did it. I was talking to her about it the other day. We talk about that particular event a lot. And, I said, she gets mad at me, and I say, well, mom, the trouble is that all I can do is blame you. You had the means to fix things. You did some, but you just didn't do it enough. That's what I tell her. Boy, that makes her mad. But, yeah, she's 97 years old, and she didn't want I don't live off to her. I say with all due respect, of course. Of course.
Yeah. But, that can you imagine living in in a house as a child growing up, and maybe it can it does get this way sometime. And, you don't speak to your parents for five days straight. Don't acknowledge their presence. You don't talk to them. You come. You sleep in your bed. You eat. You never talk to mom and dad. Oh, that happens a lot. One time I was getting ready to go to town. I I was 16, and that means we had one car. Remember that, Roger? Every family had a car. Yeah. One. And if you were fortunate, you get the car keys, and you get to go to town. And it was my turn to go to town, take the car. It was an '88 Oldsmobile. I didn't have a had a Chevy. It was a before that, a green 5053, I believe it was.
Then we got the '88, and I was going I was 16, and I was all ready to go to town. I don't know what it was, some kind of event of some kind. They had all sorts of stuff going on in the summertime, July 4 or something. And, of course, all my friends would be there, and I was concentrating on getting there. I wasn't concentrating on mistreating my mother at all. You know? I'm just concentrating on getting my clothes on and coming downstairs and getting in the car and in the town. I was excited about it, and my mind was focused on it. And my mother I don't even know this, but she says she said something to me. Something nice. Like, well, where are you going? Or who are you gonna meet? Or it's something like that. I don't know because I didn't hear it. Oh, she said it. I'm satisfied. Probably said it more than once, and I didn't even I wasn't tuned in to her at all. And all she wanted was a kind response.
So I ran upstairs, and I lived in an old two story farmhouse built in 1910. One of those frame houses, two stories, everything was built up because the heat, you know, small this way and low ceilings downstairs and vents in the floor that so right under the wood stove so the heat could go up through the vent and up into the room upstairs. I went upstairs to get something, narrow stairway, very steep, almost a ladder, you know, those old houses. And there was an unwritten rule that, whoever put their foot on the step first, if somebody else was wanting to go upstairs or down, whoever put their foot on the step first had the right of way.
Nobody ever said that. We just did that in time my little boy. And, there wasn't room really to pass each other, so you just waited for the other person, us boys, and mom and dad. And, I put my foot on the step, started down. I was in a hurry, and just as I got about a third of the way down, here come mom up the stairs. Boy, that threw me off. It just didn't seem right. We didn't do that. You know? That's like that's like putting the dipper back in the water bucket after you get a drink and let it sink to the bottom. That's just something we never did. You know? If you did, you were there was something wrong with you. You take the dipper and you set it on top of the water and it just floats there. See? Well, that was this kind of a unwritten rule too. And, I thought, what's this all about? So I she's my mother.
I'm I'll give her the right away, obviously. She's walking slow and deliberately up the stairs. So I just backed up against one side of the stairs over the wall on both sides to try to let her by, and she shortened me. I was full grown at that 16. I reached full height. And, well, per near. I was up there. And, and she was smaller than me, and she's a fine boned woman. Her side of the family was built that way. Well, except the McKinsey's. They were pretty. But she didn't get that. She got she was fine boned, and so she never had the ability to make a whipping really hurt. And we'd scream and holler just to get her to stop, but real only reason we did that was to make her think it hurt so she'd stop. You know? And and then she'd grab us and whatever she'd get handy, she'd start wailing on us while she was coming up the stairs. I was too big to have my fanny fanned. And she got up the stairs up she got her feet on steps above mine, so she had to get level with me. And she just staring at me right in the face. And I looking at her, and all of a sudden, kawam.
And she nailed me. She you know, a girl a girl a girl has two choices. She'll she can slap with her open palm. Yes. And or she can she can't well, girls normally don't make a fist, but she'll kinda pull her tips of her fingers into her palm and then just hit you flat handed like that. You know? Well, that's what she did. That was the way she made a fist, and she nailed me. I'd been hitting the jaw before at school. My other boys, old Frankie Ferguson, he had a habit of doing that. He'd come out of nowhere. He wouldn't even warn you. Just he'd get mad at you, and you wouldn't even know why he's mad and wham. He'd bring one up under your jaw. Well, your whole jaw goes numb if you've not had that happen to you. That's especially on that one side, and it just kinda stuns you. You know? Yeah. Well, that's what she did to me. She came up low. She didn't try to injure me, but she wanted to she wanted me to know I'd been slugged, and she slugged me. And I couldn't process it. Wham. You know?
And I I just stood there a minute, and she she stare kept staring at me. And I just slowly turned and walked downstairs, and I I didn't know what to say or do. And I went outside and got in the car and and left because I couldn't understand what she had done. Well, the reason she had done that was simply because I didn't respond to her. That's all. And all she wanted was a a response of some kind. And it's absolutely ugly and evil that we don't respond to our father in heaven. He he keeps us every day. He feeds us, and he sends all sorts of signals and communications to us, not to mention the Bible. And all he wants is a kind response.
Every time we come on the air, we don't do that here, Roger, but on the other programs I own I'm on, I always in the beginning, and if I forget, miss Francine reminds me, Brent, you didn't pray. But what I like to say is I don't I sometimes I say pray. It is prayer, but I just say, let's stop and acknowledge. Like, I was supposed to acknowledge my mother. Let's stop and acknowledge the god that made us. Mhmm. That's all. Just acknowledge his presence. He wants to just like when you were a kid at home, you need to get up in the morning and your mother said hello or good morning. You good morning, mom. You know, just that kind of thing. There isn't that kind of thing going on. We're living like a bunch of blasted animals, heathens.
It's not acceptable to not acknowledge other people.
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And then foremost, your parents, of course, and foremost, your your maker. Go ahead, Roger. Well, here's an acknowledgment. Miss Francine joins us. I was talking earlier how she wasn't here. We haven't seen her in a couple weeks. So Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back, Francine.
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Thank you, Roger.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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We'd like to have her. She's Go ahead.
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Go ahead. Go ahead. Brent, is, is everyone supposed to love everyone, Even the people that, murder and deceive and lie over and over and over? Are are are are are we are people supposed to love are Christians supposed to love everybody?
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Is that a Well, let me ask you. If if if God Well, let me let me let me ask you a question. And it and you're you you are kind to bring things up, and you do it often. But I have never asked you a question, but I want to ask you one now. I want you to give me what you your definition, what you think, and I won't castigate you for it. I'll just talk about the Bible. But what do you think love is? How would you define it?
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Caring for someone, caring for others.
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Uh-huh. But what about fine. Uh-huh.
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Oh, what about when you care for somebody and you whip their butt because they need to learn the lesson and you're giving them what's called tough love? How about that, Joan?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Wait. What about what about my mother? What about my mother when she walloped me? I'd like to knock me flattered and Right
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right then and there, I would have said, mama, why did you do that?
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Yeah. But, but I'm asking you a question. Was that love when she did that? It was my mother loving me. My was my mother loving me when she walloped me?
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I might I if I was your mom and I I would have found a different way to love you, then maybe dislocate your jaw.
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Okay. Have you have you, raised boys?
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No. Ah.
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Well, just just I mean, that's the sovereignty of God, the sovereignty of God, but, like I said before, men are the problem. Men are the ultimate problem in every country. Women are a problem. Oh, yeah. They're sinners too, but men are the ultimate problem. And I know for a fact what it takes, the heart, the Bible says, Jeremiah, the prophet, the heart desire of man is desperately wicked. Who can know it? And he also says that all of our personal righteousness is like bloody menstrual rags. That's what that that's what the Hebrew text says. It's not translated that way, but let's be let's be raw about it. That's what it says. Jesus Christ quoting the Old Testament, Paul Paul quoting the Old Testament rather. Jesus Christ said the same thing, but I wanna quote Paul first. He said, there is none good no man good.
No. Not one. That's a quote. And they have all gone out of the way. Their mouth is an open their throat is an open sepulcher full of dead men's bones. They're the poison of asps is under their lips. Well, under whose lips? Lips of men and women. And so you're dealing with a you're dealing with a tough bunch. Who is it? It's us. It's us. We're a tough bunch. We're hard cases. We're bound for hell. And Jesus Christ saves us from hell, and then he whips us into condition. I think my mother was tough on me. That was nothing what God's done to me. He takes me to the cleaner.
He, takes me out behind the woodshed, operation woodshed, and he teaches me what he wants me to know. The Bible says in Hebrews, despise not the chastening of the Lord. What is the chastening? That's an old word that means to purify, and that means to be beaten. That's what that means. Despise not the beatings of the Lord. Why? Because it's for your good, and he's saving your soul from hell. He does it. I don't do it. Tough love. Tough. Yeah. We call it tough love, but love, that's really what what is love? The Bible defines love. I'll that's you ask ask you for a definition. I'll give you the Bible's definition. It's clear. It's plain. It's straightforward, and it's unambiguous. First John, this is the love of god, comma, that we keep his commandments.
That's it. Keep his commandments toward other people toward other people. There's our all all of our our, our common law tradition, which includes the Bible as the final court of last resort, all of our common law tradition is based upon relationships. All of our common law, that means all of the law of the land, to use another name for it, is based on relationships. The relationship that that that you have, the kind of relationship with another person defines what body, what what law, what commandments, what standards apply to that relationship. My, father son relationship, son mother relationship, There's a different set of standards that apply to that, that apply to, a trustor, trustee relationship, a common law, or a bailor, bailee, or a promissor, promisee, in a contract case. There's a body of law that applies to that that's different than the the marriage relationship is not a contract relationship. No. No.
So there's a different body of law, a different set of standards. The marriage relationship, for example, is fiduciary. I mean, intensely fiduciary. The the persons in the relationship, the god's law requires that each one of them, look after their spouse more than they look after themselves. That's, a a fiduciary. In a contract relationship, you're not required you're required to look after yourself only. Very interesting. And an agency relationship is a fiduciary, but in a different way. But on and on it goes. Roger, you're gonna say something? No. I said that was very interesting, that splitting of hairs there. Yeah. And and I haven't split very many. I mean, it gets more split than that if you wanna follow the Bible and learn about it. But the bottom line is do what the law of God says to do to the fella in the particular relationship you're in. What about employer employee? Is that does the Bible cover that? You bet it does in spades.
How you spoke the loyalty that you owe, a duty of loyalty you owe to the man that pays you to do what you do if you're working for him. You know, they used to say in America, when you get paid by the man, you ride for his brand. You don't let other people steal his cattle. Mhmm. That's a a theme, of course, in the old westerns and but it's part of American it's part of our common law tradition. You know, the two kinds of treason, the common law. There's grand treason. That's treason against the sovereign, whether it be the sovereign, your your country, or god himself. But the practical matters, treat, disloyalty or to your disloyalty to your country is treason.
Disloyalty at common law to your employer with whom whom you have a contract relationship called master servant at common law, or you could say employer employee in modern but that requires loyalty, and to be disloyal to your employer is treason. I wish I wish we would resurrect those old laws of loyalty, and they would be in the forefront of our head because that's what holds us together and makes us strong is loyalty, knowing where loyalty should apply. We have, a judge on the bench. He is the first Islamic federal judge ever appointed.
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Biden appoint pointed him. Just one of the DC crowd?
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Yeah. He was a he's a he's a a citizen of Canada and, claiming to be a citizen of The United States. He's the one that told Trump to turn that plane around, bring it back, and all that belonging.
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What's what's his name?
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The last name. Google or something? Yeah. Well, he's a citizen of born in Canada. I assume he's a citizen of Canada. He's worked up there in the courts. But let's just say he's he's Canadian. His family immigrated, from the other side of the world to Canada, and then he came down here and he's a federal judge. And, loyalty is not divisible, not even a little bit. Mhmm. As we say at common law, divided loyalty is no loyalty at all. And loyalty is what holds our common law together. Loyalty is what holds Christianity together. To be loyal to like kindred spirits is the foundation of the Christian life. Now notice I didn't say it's the foundation of salvation. You're is not something you do. That's something God does for his own reasons.
But to enjoy your salvation without knowing what it is God wants you to do won't happen. You won't enjoy it. It'll be drudgery. You may go to you may, not go to hell when this life is over, but you've been saved from hell, but enjoying what god has for you because you don't understand your trust or set lower beneficiary relationship to your and your your relationship to your maker is set and beneficiary. And there's a body of law that applies to that relationship. We're right now in the final parts of the law course at Winter's Inn on Christian nationhood.
And, we, we're getting right down to where we're we're going into the the nature of the relationship that people in a Christian nation have with their god. And it's a it's a beneficiary settler relationship. And the natural enforcers of that relationship, of a trust relationship at common law, according to our common law, are the beneficiaries. That's there isn't anybody else. They're the ones that stand to gain and lose, and that's the they're the natural enforcers. And that's what it is here with our our relationship with God. We are to enforce, as his people, of his trust settlement.
That's a different relationship. So to know what loyalty is to, our maker, vertically and then horizontally horizontally to our fellow man, The Bible and the laws of nature are common law tradition, observes these. They're out here. Do you know what they are? Are you enjoying life, really? Well, if you aren't, then it's time you started. And that's why John says in first John, I write these things to you. In the beginning, he says, I write this book. I write these things to you that your joy may be having already been fulfilled.
God has done all that it possible to do. No more can be added to it that you would have joy, that you would have gladness, that you would be have a positive attitude. He's done that. He did it in the past. That's why God so loved. Oh, what does his love do? It was you that opportunity to have enjoyment out of life. Let's go to the Westminster confession. You know, by way back there in England, parliament, the Puritans controlled parliament. It was a political party, and they won the war against the crown. And so they, said, okay. We're in charge now. The king's not in charge.
And so, we gotta pass the law, but we want don't want to, contradict the Bible. So a subpoena, a subpoena to all the individual individuals in Scotland and England, Puritans and Presbyterians, in other words, and said, we want you to assemble under pain of penalty to bring your carcasses down here to Westminster. And we got a list of questions that we're gonna submit to you, and we want biblical answers. You understand? And they all showed up. Yeah. And they they did a lot of work there at Westminster as answering all the questions that parliament submitted to them so that parliament would know or have a a strong opinion anyway about, where the boundaries are in the Bible. They didn't want their legislation to exceed the boundaries.
And so they did that. And they were there for a long time, the men at Westminster Westminster. That was in the sixteen forties. And they answered those questions about what what what what parliament had asked them. And parliament wanted to stay within the bounds of the word of God. That's what that was and not exceed it. Why? Well, so their joy could be full and the country's joy could be full. My friends, we will not have joy without, the revelation of God's will that he's given to us and without knowing it. You're thumping your Bible and say, how you believe the Bible? Do you have a clue what's in it? Well, I'm just asking. I know I don't know what I need to know, Roger. I'm still working on that. Go ahead. Wasn't wasn't too much joy over the last four years.
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That's I can remember.
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No. And the Bible says that too. And, the wicked rule, men hide themselves. You know, they don't have any joy in their lives. It's true. That's a a law of nature. It's out there. But what do we do, my friends? If we will know this book, God promises us, We give attention to his will. We acknowledge him by saying we wanna know what our God is like, who he is, and want to know our father. I don't know about it. We don't wanna know about it. No way. How do you know it? How do I know my father? Listen. I know what my I know what my father liked. One moment, please. I'll finish. I know what my father my earthly father like. Like, I've said before, he'll be 99 this summer. I know what he likes, and I've learned over the years what he likes. And the more I know what he and what he dislikes, in other words, his will, what he wants.
I don't know about him, and I have known him very well, and I'm still getting to know him. Well, that's the way it is with our father in heaven. Know his will. Somebody said something. Go ahead. I was that Linda?
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Lady, lady. Yeah. Some lady. Yeah. When you ask when you ask Joan what is love, love is patient. Love is kind. It is not it is not envy. It is not boastful. It is not proud. It does not dishonor others. It is not self seeking. It is not easily angered. It keeps no records of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease. Where there are tongues, they will be stilled. Where there is knowledge, it will pass away. We know in part, and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what in is in part disappears.
When I was a child, I talked like a child. I thought like a child. I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put away childhood things. So now we see only of reflection, as in a mirror, then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part, then I shall fully know, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain faith, hope, and love, but the greatest of these is love. I yield.
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Okay. Brent, let me tell you what brought this up today. Go ahead. Yesterday, we were talking, and I it's something I've been at least repeating in this vernacular for a long time is that in Genesis and then repeated in the New Testament, it depends on the translation, I guess. Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated. Uh-huh. Now That they wanted me because they said that it that's not a literal translation. I said, well, let's ask Brent. But because it goes back if you go back to Revelation 18, you know, come out of where my people come out of where and then and then what I call the remedy verses there, the serve her double, what she served to you. Well, he's not saying I'm gonna do that. Somebody else is supposed to do that, and I believe that's the remnant. That's the conclusion I've come to over all these years. So that's what kinda started Joan's question, and there was that little bit of a discussion yesterday.
So could you go into that a little bit for more for us? Is that an accurate translation?
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Well, you well, certainly.
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It is. Yes. And then Okay. So Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated is an accurate translation.
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Correct. Yeah. As a kid, they wanna Hey, myrrh. Listen up. Paul Paul the apostle repeats it in Romans chapter nine verse 13. Here he quotes that verse making a point about the election of God. The election of election, that's not a translation of a word. That's the Greek word, eklectos. We don't I don't know why people don't translate it. What it means is to choose one and over another. That's what it means. Mhmm. We have papyri from the centuries just before the time of Jesus Christ and just after, discovered in places like Egypt where it's so dry that things don't rot and the papyri, last a long time, And we find it in the trash dumps and heaps. We find grocery lists, contra even scraps of the bible, scraps of other writings, letters, and we learn, looking at those how the word was used at that time.
And we have papyri maps from the around the first century of grocery list or one letter that a lady wrote to another saying she went to market that day, and she picked out certain fruit or watermelons or something. I forget what it was. Picked it out from others and used that word. Well, what does it mean? It means to pick, you know, how you watch ladies and men ladies, they'll pick up fruit, feel it, the watermelon, see if they got a lot of water in them, make certain Lump it. Down, and they pick the Yeah. They pick out the one ounce that they want. That's a Hold on, Sherry, please. Out from among others. And the gods God says in God says in Romans nine, it well, the whole section. He breaks it down and he tells us all that God has revealed to us that may be known, that he's willing to reveal about the election of God, choosing a nurse. When I say our founders, I mean the people that settled America. Our first fathers, they believed it with a pink passion, these doctrines that Rome had denied for so many centuries.
And Rome well, the reason if you if you're willing to say or deny the doctrine of elect whatever you think it means, you have the ability to make a lot of money. If a preacher stands up and says, Jacob, I have loved. Esau, I have hated. And then applies that on as the Bible does to God choosing men now out from among the dying or the dead really of the world. If you if you say that you people won't pay you money to say that you've got to say something else. You've got to say things like God loves everybody. Does God love everybody? No, he doesn't. Yeah. No, he doesn't. How do I know that? How do I know that? Because the Bible says that, and it's not a matter again, some ambiguous passages. It's all over the Bible. The people that came to held to that doctrine, as Winston Churchill said, that the most biblical race of men that ever lived were the Puritans of England.
They went away because they fell out of they fell out of, well, that's history. I'll but at the time they came here, they were biblical. And this the Presbyterians from Scotland were as biblical or more so. And all they said is, look. We don't want to try to explain it. If the Bible says it point blank, we gotta deal with it. And there's no sense trying to explain it away. Rationalize
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around it. Goes in They try and rationalize around it to get there a point.
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And most all of Christendom does that. I'm I'm, old enough. I'm I'm not willing to think stupid enough to think. I'll persuade everybody. But I'll tell you what, I do know that the re that point of view is is experiencing a grand resurgence all over the English speaking world. It's called reformed Christianity. That's traditionally what it's called. Some people call it Calvinism just because Calvin was one of of that held that position, but it's not Calvinism. It's just the Bible. And, somebody
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Rogers Who was Sherry? Sherry was, asking to be recognized. Sherry?
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Yes. Thank you. So, really, it's a preference is what Brynn has described, which could also go to the word discrimination, but more importantly, the principle of the separation of the sheep from the goats.
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The wheat from the tares.
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Mhmm. Yeah. The wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats. So it's all over the Bible, and it's explained and illustrated, but there's no basis. It just said clear and point blank. And the question then becomes, what are you gonna do with it? You either accept it or reject it. Jesus Christ put it this way. You did not choose me. I chose you. That's what he said. And he said the reason the world you and the world does hate Christian people. Of course. Look at I can
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well, anyway, he said the reason They're massacring them over they're massacring them today over in what used to be Syria.
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The reason the world hates you is because me, said Jesus Christ, and they hate you because I, says Jesus Christ, have eklectos chosen you out of see, there's the out of out from among others, out of the world. That's fundamental. Janity. Without that, Christianity does not exist. If God loves everybody, then he doesn't love anybody. As we say at common law Yep. If, well, we say it just that way about in property rights. We say what belongs to everybody belongs to nobody. Same thing. What belongs to everybody belongs to nobody. Mhmm. Same kind of an idea. No. There's an exclusive exclusivity to this. I don't understand it because I don't know the mind of God. I am not God, but it's my job as best as I can do it to tell people what the Bible says. And I'm supposed to devote my time to do that, and I do as much as I can.
I don't know everything, and I'm learning more all the time. But at the jump from the very beginning, Malachi chapter one through four and Revelation chapter two and or 22 and and, he or Romans chapter nine nine thirteen, as it is written, Paul says, as it is written, that means I'm quoting the Old Testament, Jacob, I have loved Esau, I have hated. Then he took it down. You see, Jacob and Esau were unidentical twins in the womb at the same time. And when God said that, he said it before they were born. So he we cannot rightfully say that, well, he loved Jacob because Jacob, was a better boy. He he was he loved God more or he did what God want. No. He no. He he chose Jacob, before he had a chance to do right or wrong.
And the Bible says in Romans that he chose his people, now us, before the foundation of the world. He's the God that lives outside of time, and his choices are eternal. They never change, and they're made before the world began. The covenant of God was established. God there was never was a time. God did not know all that could be known. There was never a time anybody could teach God anything. God will never be surprised when we get in glory and we're with him and, and he'll look at somebody and say, good gravy. I didn't think you'd ever wind up here. No, that's not gonna happen. He knows He's the one that makes it happen.
He's the one that makes all things happen. As a matter of fact, his name, Yahoah, is a simple verb in the Hebrew text, and it means he happens. He's the happening one. He's the one that makes all things happen, and nobody calls his hand, and he never changes his mind, from his decisions. It says in Romans third I believe it's 13. He says, god he's the same yesterday, today, and forever. And the gifts and callings of god are without repentance. Repentance. What's repentance? That's the Greek word in the New Testament, metanoia. Meta means change, like metamorphosis means change of shape and an insect or something.
And, metanoia means mind. Metanoia, change of mind, repentance. What changes your mind? What changes your mind about things? God does. You don't. You couldn't. It's not even possible. You're dead. If you're not a Christian man or woman, you're dead in trespasses and sins. That's a quote from the Bible. You're dead, and so you can't respond to anything. You can't make any choices, and all the choices you think you'd be making while while you're the walking dead, spiritually dead, That's do you think you're making all of them will just be for something less than God's will? Even if you do the things that are right, you're doing them for the wrong reason, and that's offensive to God too. So God saves men. He doesn't save drowning men.
No. He saves men that are or he drowned it, and they're at the bottom of the ocean. And they're all laying down there dead, and he grabs some out. Now is there something unjust about that? No. The the the amazing thing about all that is not that people say, why doesn't he save everybody? Well, that's not the question. The question is, why in the world would he save anybody Anybody. Given who we are? You know? Isn't it odd I I like this. I don't know who wrote it, but I'm quoting it. Isn't it odd that a being like God who sees the facade could still love the clod that he fashioned from sod.
Yes. Yes. Tis odd. I don't know who said it, but it was well said. It was. Isn't it odd? That's the question why. Well, he he he loved us when we were unlovable, the Paul says in Romans. We were abhorrent to him, but he loved us in what he did not because he felt affection for us. He didn't. He couldn't have. We were loathsome to him, repulsive. But he took us, it says, takes us out of the sewage the sewage. He cleans us up, bores us down, dries us off, and then he starts the process of discipline. That's the way it works. Don't believe these fellows that say God would never do that to his children. No. No. The Bible promises God will do that to his children. He will discipline them. He's not messing around. It's serious business. And if you don't respond, he'll just kill you and take you home.
That too. So don't play with him. My strong suggestion is you you wanna enjoy life? Just acknowledge the god that make you. I know you're ignorant. I know I'm ignorant, but what can we do? We can show respect and acknowledge him like I was supposed to do with my mother when she was talking to me. I didn't know what she wanted. I don't even know what she said. I'd I should ask her that. I've never asked her. What was it you said to me, mother? You're kidding. I should know. I'm thinking about it now. I'm saying, oh, you know, you're so focused on the the prompt. She got the point across. The point was I show some respect. Boss.
Yeah. Well, I'm the boss, but more than get that, Roger. She wasn't wanting me to command. She was wanting me to acknowledge her. Mhmm. You know, I walk in the courtroom. I walk in the court. We had this big trial one time, and every come in, we'd be sitting there. Of course, the judge would come in after the jury. This particular judge, by the way, Roger, no. The jury no. The judge would come in and sit down at the bench. Uh-huh. And then the jury would come in File in. And the judge would stand up. The judge would stand up. Oh, yeah. And when the judge stood up, we'd all Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, this and this but in this particular courtroom, the court was followed pretty good. So we'd sit down. However, then this jury, they they just file in, sit down. Judge stand up. We then we'd sit down.
And then, the judge would make a every lawyer, there were five lawyers in that case, different it was a conspiracy case, and he would say, good morning, mister Winters. And I'd say, morning, judge. And then some he'd say it to another guy and morning, judge. He'd go one by one. Why did he do that? It was wise thing to do. We all start. We don't know what we're gonna do. We don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know what might bob forth from the flux of all the crazy things that were happening, and we were gonna have disagreements, but we're gonna start with making a point and expression of respect for one another. That's the way it started.
And if you don't do that, and and and if if we do that in a federal courtroom, which we did, by a thousand times more important it is that you do it in your home. No question, because what goes on in a federal courtroom doesn't matter that it doesn't matter that much compared to what goes on in your house. You say, good morning, son. Your son owes you a response. These children that get recalcitrant and have bad attitudes, where do they get that? Well, they get it being around other children. The children are all Yeah. Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, says Public school system. Oh, yeah. Food but but no chill but, yeah, that is true, Roger. But then you get them all together, and all you've got is compounded foolishness because that's what her, and it gets real ugly. And then you've got bad influences. That's why, putting children together like that's like putting pigs together. You know, Roger, when we were raising livestock, we had like everybody at that time, we had all different kind of livestock. In case one failed, the price went down. We got something that may come through for us.
So we raised chickens. Mom had an egg business. We raised, cattle. We, leased out bulls, and we always kept hogs around. And when you keep hogs around and you've got couple old have a litter of pigs, if you put them in farrowing crates, because you wanna try to keep them laying on the pigs, you make sure that the pigs don't because they'll kill another from the different litters. And they're hard enough on each other in the same litter. You know, they're born with real sharp, little razor sharp teeth coming out of their mouths, and they compete for those tits.
And they they don't have a lot of weight. When they get up there and try to feed, they'll knock the littlest one off the end. We called him the run. He constantly get knocked off the end. You know? He get just kept brushing him down till he was laying out there. And he if he had any steam, it's fun to watch him. He'd take a run at he'd take a run at the other. You know, mom's laying down there, you know, on her side. He'd take a run at the other and try to drive his nose between two others to get in there, get latched on someplace. Of course, they're all thrown their heads around sideways, and they got those sharp little teeth.
But that's bad, but that's competitive. We always made sure we'd take them in bottle feed them if we had to, but you let two litters mix up together and they'll they'll kill each other. Well, why if that's true, then it is true and why, and you put little children together in school. Don't tell me they won't abuse abuse each other. I was in school. I knew what went on. It was pretty ugly. Linda
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restraining force. Could I just add to that list a gaggle of pens? Girls, girls, both of you, Linda and Sherry,
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we're right at the top of the hour. We'd like for Brent to give his credentials before we lose the other people that are listening today. So, Brent, you got a couple of minutes if you'd like to tell them how they can get ahold of you and get more info, please.
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Okay. I think it was Linda that was first and then Sherry. Yeah. Linda, what what did you have? Lady Linda Louise, I want to say thank you to Joan for,
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bringing up this, subject about Christians supposedly loving everybody, even mean, evil people. And I thank you, Roger, for, expounding because when Murrah said yesterday that the truth was that God preferred Jacob over Esau, my heart wanted to believe that, but that was definitely misinformation because when I did the research, there were at least 37 versions of the Bible where it clearly said God hated Esau and only three that I could find. The new living testament, which was the word rejected, Esau, the contemporary English version version, which said, j he the lord liked Jacob more than Esau.
And then the Mace New Testament, which said, Esau, I have discarded. So, thank you, Raj, for bringing this up because now I have two I already
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I Part of my thinking on this has always been what I've come to understand with all these years of study, everything's got a dialectic. So if you got love, you gotta have hate. If you don't if you don't, the world didn't complete. Nothing's ever one-sided. There's always a dialectic. And the other part of it is all you have to do is, well, and make this little this little jump. Well, I guess if god publicly says he hates you, then there's a good chance you may publicly hate him. Would you agree with that?
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Sadly, yes.
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Thank you. Well, the those are my two thesises that kinda ground that I hate him. You see, there's gotta be hate because there's love. Everything's got a dialectic. I've never found anything that doesn't have a dialectic. God, Satan. K? For what it's worth. Sherry, thank you, Linda. Hold on. Linda, Sherry was next. Were you finished, Linda?
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Yes. Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay.
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Yes. Thank you. Sherry?
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I just wanted to add to, Brent's list about the children getting together, you know, and then they only learn from each other. And then it brought to mind last week, the gaggle of hens, you just can't stop us. I yield.
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We got some real strong lionesses. How about a pride of lionesses, Sherry? Does anybody have a question for me? Thank you. Yeah. There you go. Does anybody have a question or comment for Brent or myself at this stage? So Anybody have a direction you'd like to have us go?
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Go ahead. Brent.
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Oh, it's Joan again.
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So, Brent, do you agree? I mean, is that what is that right? That, if God hates we can hate our enemies too, and we can hate, evil politicians and evil, people that are trying to control, the government and that are murdering in in wars and that are evil and deceitful and lying and and enslaving.
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I I think you can not only hate them, I think you can hate their fruits, which is everything you're just talking about. Well, if you hate the these things like child, all child trafficking and all these horrid, horrid things that we can even only imagine. Okay? If you if you can't hate that without hating who's perpetrating it, can you, Joan?
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I agree. Does Brandon agree?
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I don't know. Well, let's go back again. I keep
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here's the way to deal with this. You have all these application. Well, should I hate this guy? Should I hate that guy? Should I hate a politician? Should I hate a child molester? And on and on and on you go. First thing you wanna ask yourself is, am I am I any better than him? And the answer is no. You aren't. No. You aren't. You in God's eyes, you're just like everybody else. You know, if I said, okay. If I said, okay. Now, everybody who I'm gonna I've got a high jump bar here. Everybody that can jump over, four foot, a four foot bar gets to go to heaven.
If you can jump over this four foot bar. And of course, some people would run and try to jump. Some people would stumble before they even got to the bar. You know, some people would fall on it. Some people couldn't couldn't jump an inch. Some people could jump over it, but from up in God's heaven, if you've been an airplane, you know that's true. If you look down and watch them trying to jump over that four foot bar, they don't look the same to you. They don't look, let's say, let's raise it up a little bit. Let's say, okay, if you can jump over this 20 foot bar, 20 foot in that high compared to God up in the, up in the heavens, but it all looks the same to him. You're all people, we, all of us, we can't jump over the bar. All have sinned. That means to break God's law or elevate God's law, and come short of the glory of God. Even those of us who try the hardest, we miss the mark, and that's what the word the Hebrew word means. And the Greek word, hamartia, means the same thing. It means to try and fail. There are three words in the New Testament and three words in the Hebrew Old Testament that are translated the same, sin.
But they have different nuances of meaning. One of them means to try hard and fail anyway. One of them means to try consistently and fail anyway. And the other one means you don't care one way or the other. You're an apostate. And those rather six words, three in the Old Testament, three in the New. And, I've taken those words and put them in a an appendix in the back of the winterized Bibles so they're they can be compared and contrasted to understand the nuances of what God is saying at any given point. But bottom line is, no matter what no matter what you do in this life, all of your righteousness is as bloody menstrual rags. That's what the book says. So forget trying to justify yourself or say I'm a good guy and he's a bad guy. And I'm not saying you're doing that. I'm just speaking to the whole audience and you you give me an to make a point. Then the next so first, number one, am I any better than them? No.
Not as a mat not in the flesh. I'm not. Although God has taken his elect, and he has justified them. He washed them and that's us. And he's he's disciplining us. He's cleaning us up. There is a difference. Yes. There's a difference, but don't think that as a practical matter, you're no your position, your position with your maker, with your father in heaven is perfect. He has perfected it. There is nothing you can add to it to make any more of what he says it is. You can't go to mass. You can't go to church. You can't teach Sunday school. You can't be a missionary in a foreign country to make your position any better than God has made it, and God's the one that does that. You don't do that.
But your practice is quite something else. You're still struggling with the flesh. And sin, the desire to break God's law, the weakness to temptation is in your flesh. What is born in you, says first John, of the spirit, the seed of the word of God cannot sin. It's not even it can't happen. It's possible that that can sin and that is getting stronger inside of you. But you're struggling against the flesh, of course, until they, they, they, put dirt on you, you're going to be doing that. So the, the second question though, is to ask if the love of God and by the way, Romans or, first Corinthians and lady read that nice passage. Well, a little bit ago, nice passage, but that passage does not define what God what love is. It it gives a list, a long list of characteristics.
And it gives a long list of characteristics in a particular context, I might add. And that particular context doesn't apply in every case. For example, if if the love of God let's deal with the clear statements of the Bible. The clear statements. We start there. We don't start with something that is more contracted to a particular context as Paul always does. He's that kind of a guy. He's a detailed guy. When he writes, you can see that. John, when John writes, he's black and white. There are no exceptions. There are no details, and it just makes bold overarching statements that have no exceptions.
Like John, he's the one that said, for example oh, he says it over and over and over and over in all of his writings, all of his five writings. He wrote five books in the New Testament. His themes are always the same. His vocabulary was very limited. 242 Greek words in the book of first John. Just 200, 242 Greek root words, I should say. But he says more of those, most people, than Paul the apostle could say with his vast vocabulary and the equivalent of two or three doctor's degrees. Well, that's their personalities, and God poured his truth through the personalities of these two men. But John, the one that said, he who hath the son hath life.
And he who hath not the son of God hath not life. The wrath of God hangs over him by a thread. Now that's black and white, friends. It's either up or down, in or out, black or white, heaven or hell, ain't saint or ain't. Ain't no that that's man or woman, ain't not ain't no other third options. Well, but Paul's not that way. Paul's educated as that one, that one emperor that, well, he's under gov, under emperor. He said, much learning Paul, much learning has made you mad. You've been to school too much. You've been intimated beyond your intelligence, Paul. Well, it's probably true. When you read Paul, he's just all over the lot. He knows so much. He just comes at it, and he jumps on the he comes at it from all directions, or he jumps on a horse and rides off in all directions. Everything is context dependent. That's a beautiful passage. It's often read at weddings and other things like that, but that doesn't get get it. That's not the black and white of it. That's some nice characteristics, of course, in certain relationships.
Well, let's go back to the definition. This is the love of God that we keep his commandments. Well, let's think about it. What's his commandments? One of the most fundamental commandments of God is that, if men are convicted after a due due process of, of, killing another person by malice and a forethought, the Bible commands that we are to shed their blood, Shed their blood. Capital punishment. Well, this is the love of God that we keep his commandments. Should we do that? Yeah. Does it appear patient and kind? Well, yeah, we have patience. We're going to make sure due process is followed when we try him as much as we possibly can. Is it kind? Yeah. We're gonna treat him with respect during the trial. If we don't, I would be upset. We treat men with respect.
Are we're to be kind, are we to be patient? Yes. But in the end we are to kill him. Now there's a lot more to that than I just said here, but due process being a lot more, the trial better be fair. The jury better have been in paneled properly. There better been no opportunities for bribes of the jury. It must have been sequestered. They must be from the district where the crime is said to have occurred. They must be of the militiamen, the local militiamen. All of these things the Bible teaches. Are we doing that? I don't think we are. No. Uh-uh. But my point is the love of God applies to things that people say are not loving.
When when I watch what God does to other people, the wrath of God says Rome, Romans one, the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness of men who bury the truth in unrighteousness. Now that's that's, in the what's called the Greek present, which communicates the kind of action that is continuous. And then the proper understanding of it is the wrath of God is continually nonstop being poured out from the skies against the ungodliness. That means you don't acknowledge God. You don't respect him. The ungodliness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
When I see the wrath of God being poured out upon men, and then I see the discipline of God being poured out on his people. And I've I've watched that all my life too, and I've experienced it. It's not pleasant. It's not pleasant to watch. I'm watching a man go down right now. I'm I'm go down. And I have done everything that I could possibly do to keep it from happening. I've been patient. I've been kind. He did not respond. Or what's the next step? Well, the Bible says it gives us a very specific set of, of a course of processes that we're to follow.
You follow that. You'd be careful about following it. It's called due process. When you have a problem with your friend or your neighbor, and when it's over and he won't listen, God says, give him his head, leave him to his devices and I'll I'll take care of it. And that can get real ugly, especially if it's God's people. Yeah. You know, sometimes God lets the evil men just go on and on and on and on and on. They they he uses them to discipline his own people. He uses evil men to discipline his own people. You see that over and over in the Bible. And then God turns around and annihilates the people he used to discipline his own people because they had broken his law and done evil. That's right. God used the the Israelites to do the most dastardly deed that had ever occurred and will ever occur among man, the murder of God himself in human flesh.
He did that. And in doing that, he provided for us the payment for our sins to put us in a position of perfection before him in his eyes to make us his own sons and daughters. He used the dastardly deed of murder of God himself. And then he turned around and judged I mean, put the wrath of God on the people that did that to punish them for their dastardly deed that he had foreordained from before the foundation of the world would occur just the way it happened. Now you're not gonna use logic to explain that. Jesus Christ stood above Jerusalem at the end of his ministry when he was he went down to Jerusalem to give himself up, start a fight, and get him to murder him. That's why he went there because that's what what was foreordained before the foundation of the world. That's what he agreed to do with the other two members of the Godhead, Titus chapter one verses one and two. So that's what he did, but he stood over Jerusalem. Listen to this.
And he said this, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem. After they had rejected him, he said, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you would not, you would not allow it. Now let's stop a minute. It was prophesied by Jesus Christ, a member of the Godhead, before the foundation of the world, that everything would happen to him, that his own people would reject him just the way he did, just the way they did, but then they would murder him for the sins of his people as a a human sacrifice, the only one that could possibly pay the penalty.
Did all of that, but then in his humanness, he expressed compassion over what he had already ordained for ordained would happen. Predestined. Let's use that word. He predestined it would happen just the way it did. How do you explain that? You don't. So what do we do instead? We do what he tells us to do. That's what we do. We rest upon what he tells us. We are to rest upon and understand. Ours is not to understand everything. We can't. If we could understand everything, like the predestination of God in his sovereignty, we would tell him to scoot over and we'll crawl up in the throne with him, but that ain't gonna happen.
We are not him. His thoughts, the Bible says, are higher than our thoughts. His ways are beyond our understanding. We cannot figure it out. We cannot use logic to develop a more sure relationship with our maker and not not in the ultimate sense. Logic's a tool that can be used, yes, but not to figure out in the ultimate sense the sovereignty of God. And we bow before him, not understanding. I know about as much about the sovereignty of God and his predestination as a rabbit would know about what I'm thinking, probably less. And if you can't say that with confidence, then God has not enlightened your spirit. You are not of God. But I know a lot of folk that say they're Christian. I just, I shake my head and I say, look, it's not that hard. It's just a matter of, does God give it to you to accept what he says? Or is he like, Jesus Christ said of Jerusalem, thou would not. You just wouldn't do it. You will not accept the truth. You know, I find with people. I get people wanna argue with me about the Bible. I don't do it. I will not do it. I'll tell them the way it is, and that's the end of it. If I believe it and I'm clear on it, that's my job. I'll tell them I'm not here to argue logic with anybody.
I have discovered that people, in general, we're pretty sorry bunch and we get with the Bible and it's our inclination to reject what it says because it hurts. That's why it hurts because the Bible isn't, doesn't, venerate mankind. It venerates God and makes us look pretty bad. And so over and over and over, like Paul says, there is none good, no good man. No, not one. The those are the foundations of all of the Bible to understand who God is in relation to me. Well, he's perfect. And clearly, my practice is not perfect. Yes. Again, as to stress, if you're a Christian man or woman, your position is perfect and it ain't going to change. You look, he sees you through the right headedness of his son, Jesus Christ, and you're covered.
Your sins have been paid for past, present, and future. All of them says the Bible. And because of that, he's committed to you. He wouldn't commit. He wouldn't commit his son and the blood of the blood of God. The Bible calls the blood of Jesus Christ, the blood of God, and then lose what he has purchased. And he says, I won't do that. I purchased you with the blood of God, my very blood, And I'm not gonna let you go, and nobody's gonna take you out of my hand. Nobody. Well, back to you, Roger.
[01:19:25] Unknown:
Gotcha. Thanks. Hey, Brent. Soliloquy, Brent's just like I tell the audience, so you can take Brent's like the ever ready bunny. You You wind him up, and man, he just keeps going. Hey, Bob. How are you doing this day, buddy? Hey, Bob.
[01:19:39] Unknown:
Doing well. Doing well. Hello, Brent. I've got a question concerning the passages. Let's see. Deuteronomy thirty two thirty five and, Romans twelve seventeen through 19 that has to do with in broad terms, vengeance is mine. I will repay, says the lord. Mhmm. Knowing those two, I'd like your commentary on it. I've been a little bit squeamish, I'll be honest, about Roger's boisterous enthusiasm about exacting vengeance in god's name when god tells us not to. It's mine. It's in Revelation 18, Bob. It's right here. I understand, Roger. I'm talking to Brent. Please. Okay. Let me Sorry. I wanna know. We've heard you. Believe me. We know what you think.
[01:20:28] Unknown:
I'm gonna defend myself. Go ahead. Okay. Before this is over, Roger, I want Roger and I'll let him I wanna know what you you said because I'm in the dark a little bit. Go ahead. We'll, we want Bob to talk now. Thanks, Roger. Yeah.
[01:20:42] Unknown:
Bob, go ahead. I'm done. I I was just questioning what your position is. And if Roger wants to put his position out, how do you see that what he will come forward with? What do you how do you see that with the statement vengeance is mine both in the new and old testament?
[01:21:01] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Roger.
[01:21:04] Unknown:
Roger, you're changing. Go ahead, Roger. Explain your position. Alright.
[01:21:09] Unknown:
My position comes from Revelation 18, Brent. Babylon of Babylon the great has fallen. Come out of her, my people. And and then it says, serve her double what she served you. Fill her cup double, something that affects us twice again, but it doesn't say I'm going to. It evidently makes me believe that the remnant is is directed to do that. Now, Bob, here's the question. If the remnant is directed to do that, is that still god's will? He's still doing it. He's just using somebody.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Well and then, thank you, Roger. I understand now what you're saying. And, the Bible says, for instance, the one that I think of most often when I think of the vengeance of God is, Romans 12. You'd mentioned that. And then moving into that moves into 13. Now maybe that's where we ought to start, and I appreciate you bringing this up. But this is huge. You know, as you'd mentioned, Romans 12, quotes Deuteronomy and says vengeance is mine, god speaking. I will repay thus, saith the lord. And then you move on through Romans there, chapter 12, and then it it goes into Romans chapter 13.
Romans chapter 13 is that famous passage, chapter 13 verse one, that says, all authority is from God. All jurisdiction is from God. All right is from God. There are many synonyms we could use there, but Romans 13 is the continuation from Romans 12 of the verse you mentioned. And the whole context there is about the authority, the jurisdiction, the right of government to bear the sword and kill people. That's what it's about. When the Bible says vengeance is mine, I will repay, how are we to apply that? Well, we know it's really easy. It's clear. The statement's clear as crystal. Vengeance is, from from God, and it's not to be. I'm not the source of vengeance.
But he there, when he gets to Romans chapter 13, recognize that these chapter divisions aren't part of the inspired text of God. The fellow that draft Magna Carta put these chapter divisions in here. His name was Stephen Langton. They're pretty good, and they help us get a handle on where things are. But the context here, when it moved from 12 to 13, is about that verse that Bob quoted, vengeance is mine. I will repay. And then it says recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. Well, what's the answer to this? If if, if, people do wrong things clearly, the powers that be sometimes have them send them to the electric chair here in America or, find them heavily.
Say we want your personal property. You've done wrong things. Give us $250,000. Fine or or they provide some kind of retribution. Well, I'll just give you my take on it. Is does vengeance belong to God alone? Yes. As it says here in Romans 12, recompense, not tit for tat. But then it moves into 13, and it says, let every soul be subject, therefore, unto the, higher powers. I'm reading King James, which isn't exactly accurate here, but just to get a feel for it. Because vengeance belongs to God, God exacts his vengeance through men.
That's when he sent the Babylonians on to wipe out and murder the not murder, kill. Yeah. They murdered him. Murder the Israelites. When God sent the Roman legions to Jerusalem to wipe it off the face of the map, which they did, killed a couple of hundred thousand people. That's the vengeance God using men. We are his instruments of vengeance. Now how does that work? Well, in a common law country, which is God's way of doing things, that means, criminal jurisdiction is the is the is the subject here. Well, let me just read the whole thing from a and that way, we'll get the flow of it. I keep jumping around. Okay. Here we go. Bless them. I'm in Romans 12. Bless them which persecute you.
Bless and curse not. I get so mad. I wanna curse people that are doing evil. Don't do it, friends. Don't do it. Why? Because you don't have authority to do that. If God wants to say go to hell, well, he can do that. The pope of Rome doesn't have that authority. You don't have the that authority, and no other mortal has that authority. Then it says rejoice with them that do rejoice and weep with them that weep. Then it says, be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
What's the context here? He's talking about Christian folk. He's not talking about Christian folk dealing with non Christian folk. He's talking about Christian folk clearly. Every time you see the words one another in the New Testament, just keep it down in your mind. We're talking here the context is Christian folk, not other people. We put them that, etcetera. Recompense to men evil for evil. We're talking about Christian folk, brother and then sister, and as we say. If it be possible as much as life in you, live peaceably with all men as much as lieth within you. There is a limit. He's acknowledging that. Dear dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves. That means no vengeance.
But rather give place unto wrath for it is written vengeance is mine. I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore, verse 20, quote the old testament still, if thine enemy hunger, feed him. If he thirst, give him drink. For in doing so, thou shall heap coals of fire on his head. Means you're gonna make him mad. He'll come after you if you do that. He'll make he'll just make him worse. That's alright. That's alright. That's what God says to do. This is the love of God that we keep his commandments. Why why do we have agreements with other countries during World War two with Germany that we would feed their, their the German soldiers and sailors as prisoners of war? And we feed them. We did. We treated them very well. Why? Because that's what the Bible says. These are the rules of war, friends.
Did Germany do it to us? They tried, but they didn't have enough money to buy food. But, you know, they tried. Be not overcome with evil, therefore overcome evil with good. Chapter 13. Let every soul, that means every breathing man, subject be subject to the lawful powers. That's a better way to translate that. It's the Greek word exousia. It means authority, jurisdiction, lawfulness, lawful powers. Be in subject to them. Why? Because there is no lawful authority. The word power is not in here. This is the translation of way, William Tyndale and the King James translators. It's not power. It's authority. Lawfulness is a good word.
Whoever resisteth lawfulness resisteth the ordinance of God, and they that resisteth shall receive to themselves damnation. Okay. Do not take vengeance, but there is the powers that be, if they're lawful, that bear the sword, and they don't do it for nothing. That's what he's gonna say here. For rulers, the powers that be are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Is that true? Was the Biden administration a terror to good works? Yes. They were. But that's not what he's saying here. He's talking about lawful government, and he uses words to make that abundantly apparent. He's not just talking about any government. He's saying, let every soul be subject to the lawful powers. That's what the word means. It is not translated that way properly here in the King James version for what I believe is a very important reason to the translators and King James. King James didn't believe that. King James said, I am the law. You obey me no matter what. And he said this, no man. I answer to no man on earth and never will. I will only answer to God at the end of my life. You obey me and shut up. That was King James the first. That was Henry the eighth. That's what that was Mary Queen of Scots.
That was the Stuart James. That was their attitude. It was the law of the city. It was wrong. That's not what he's saying here.
[01:29:55] Unknown:
Lawful lawful versus legal. Could you put that in there in a context, Brent?
[01:30:00] Unknown:
Oh, the word legal is alright. I just don't like Latin words as much as English words. I like
[01:30:06] Unknown:
lawful. Well, I know. But but lawful goes back to God's law, and legal is is Babylonian merchant code.
[01:30:14] Unknown:
Well, I'm not opposed to using it. I'm just giving you my brothers. I I know. I, I don't like the foreign words as much. But, yeah, alright. The word has a definite meaning. Nothing wrong with using it. But what it comes down to, Romans 13 is saying to us, arrange yourself under lawful government. Unlawful government's another question, and that's nobody's talking about here. Then the question comes, oh, how if I don't have to arrange myself under unlawful government, they may kill me if I don't. That's true. They may throw you in jail. That's true too. Yep. Up to this and I don't want to go over all of it now because I can't. But the question all it may ultimately comes down to is this, when do I disobey government?
And when do I obey government? What hill do I want I want to die on? We can talk about that later, but let's address Bob's question. Does God use his people to execute his vengeance? Yes. And how does he do it? Listen to me real close. If your enemy thirsts, give him something to drink. If your enemy hungers, give him something to eat. You say that will help God wreak his vengeance on those he wants to be vengeful toward. Absolutely. If you try to get in the way, here's the deal. If you try to get in the way and you have a vengeful attitude, the Bible promises in the old testament, God will just back off and he'll let you try it. You might get hurt. Let me give you some real life examples here.
And I'm struggling with this now. I'm not struggling. I've just got to fight the fight. And I've had this happen before. It's nothing new on a couple of platforms here, a couple of occasions, couple of circumstances, man, I'm doing evil things, evil things, and I'm in a position where I'm got to do something to stop it. And so I'm doing that. And what I have to do in those cases is I have to go in and say, I'm I'm sad about this. I'm not bingeable about it, but God has given us courts for this reason. I don't wanna commit violence against these people that are doing these evil things, but I do want them to stop. And as long as the courts are open, and they are, I'm gonna take it into court, and I'm gonna do all I can to stop it and see what happens. I'll do all I can. And all I can do is all I can do, but all I can do may be enough. I'm not happy about it.
I'm not gonna be vengeful about it. Lord willing. I don't feel that way. But, yes, God will use me to accomplish his vengeance when he wants to if I will simply do what he tells me to do in my private life. I believe that. And I believe God uses men to exact his vengeance. Let me give you a example from the from the past. And God, the wrath of God is being poured out against the ungodliness of men, the disrespect of men who hold the truth and unrighteousness, and it's being done, or in the Romans, I'm repeating myself, all day every day.
Can't you see it? Are you blind to it? How do you explain all the killing that's going on in Ukraine? One Point Five Million dead folk. What is God doing? I don't know for sure, but I know this. This thing, I I know for sure about what he's doing. He's doing it to glorify himself, and in the end, he will. Is he executing his vengeance? I'm not God, but I know this. God does execute his vengeance. And who is he using to do that if that's what's happening here? Well, he's using men. God doesn't do anything in this world, this whole world of ours, but he doesn't use men. Did you know that? Oh, yeah. And every and and, demons and devils. Like it said, the the devil may be a devil, but he's God's devil and he can only do what God allows and what God permits.
Sometimes he does. Sometimes he doesn't. And why does he do it? Why did he turn him loose? Because he's glorifying himself. He sets up rulers, the Bible says, in the in the earth, in the land. Just so he can show his power and tear him down like he did the pharaoh. That's what the Bible says. Am I willing to accept that? I don't know. I don't know how else to approach life, but to accept what it says. And if you don't accept what it says, you're gonna live in hell and chaos and and despair all the time. The Bible is truth, my friends. What's that, Roger? And be miserable.
And be miserable. No. Accept it. Go along peaceably. If you if you're a child of God, you're gonna go along anyway. You know, the Bible says every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is a lordial lord of all. Not just on Sundays, not just at church. No. Everything. Everything. I had a lady tell me the other day, smart lady, by the way, very intelligent lady. I've known her for years. And, she said, Brent, and well, we've we've abandoned the roles of men and women. That's our problem. Yes. Women that have their roles and we've talked about this a lot. And she said, yes, but that only applies in the church. I said it does.
I said, all these, all these gals that are upfront now are doing the talking, on the newscast in politics. They're the heroes. Now they're doing the talking. Have you noticed that all of the men are starting to talk like a feminine it's now? Have you noticed that? Are you, you think that's just supposed to be in the church? Is that what you're saying? Well, that was her conviction. No. It's not just the church. The Bible says Jesus Christ is lord of all. His law, his will applies to all. And the sooner we bring it to all, the sooner they'll feel guilty. The the law of God, the word of God, the will of God, the the desire of God will constrain the evil, the non elect.
Like Jonathan Edwards said, why do I preach? Who who are the who are the elect? Mister Edwards. Jonathan Edwards. He was around just before our country started. But who are the elect? He said, that's not my business to know. He said, if you can spur and said this, you, you go around and pull up people's shirts. If I see a big e printed on their backs place or their belly, then I guess I would know. But I don't know. And it's my job as the Bible says to declare the truth of God to everybody and let God take care of that. That's not my business. But if you do that, said Jonathan Edwards, which we're doing here, I don't know who's listening, but if you do that, the word of God will constrain the evil in the non elect and it will not only constrain it, it will, God will use it to discipline his own people away from evil.
You don't just know to be a good person when you're born from above and all of a sudden everything changes. No, no, no. There are plenty of people that have taken that, and it's gone to seed and made them look like darn fools. All of the Pentecostal movement is that of that ilk, All of the assemblies of God, all of the Nazarene church that came out of the Methodist, the second work of grace, the second baptism of the Holy Spirit, all that stilling us has all just gone to trash. It doesn't work. You can't reach perfection as long as you got this body of flesh, but God will move you forward and life will become more enjoyable as you go. That's the reality of the Christian life. Quit living in LA LA land. You'll be more disappointed in the end. You'll end up like Jimmy Swaggart. He was in that world, that Pentecostal world.
What happened to him? Well, I don't need to tell you. Go look it up. And I'm not saying that Jimmy is not a Christian man, but I am saying, but he's forfeited a lot of enjoyment, taken the position that he could be that righteous and be perfect and reach a state of perfection in this life as all of the charismatic and Pentecostal and TV mega preachers teach the health and material wealth gospel and all that. That's the doctrines of demons robbing men and women of ultimate joy and satisfaction of life. Yep. Ultimate joy and satisfaction of life come because my parents put a whooping on me. I'm thankful for it every day. Yep. And how much more so I should be because despise not the whooping of the Lord. That's what it says in Hebrews. Roger, go ahead.
[01:38:31] Unknown:
No. I'm just following along on what you're saying in my mind and and and realizing and seeing we just a second, Sherry, that spare the rod and spoil the child. That these people that have not ever had any discipline because they may not have a father in the house or whatever, and you can see how they turn out, and you can see if you're around young children how much they appreciate. Oh, they may scream a little bit and squawk, but they appreciate that discipline. They respect you for it. K? Sherry. Uh-huh.
[01:39:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Sherry.
[01:39:07] Unknown:
This is Rob Hold on. This is Robbie.
[01:39:10] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Robbie. I thought it was Sherry. I'm sorry. Hi, Robbie.
[01:39:14] Unknown:
Hey, Jer.
[01:39:17] Unknown:
Listen. I appreciated Joan's question. I'm not sure if there was an answer if I got it, but, would would Brent say that we're supposed to love our enemies, and not hate them? And if so, how do we love our enemies if that's the answer to the question? I yield.
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Well, let's go back to the definition. Always go back to the definition. What is the definition of love? Here it is again. I know we all need to hear it over and over again. This is the love of God, comma, that we keep his commandments. There it is. So how do you love your neighbor? Well, you do what God says to do toward him in the relationship you're in with him. How do you love your enemy? You do what God says to do toward him. That's how you do it. God's God doesn't authorize us, for example, to torture prisoners of war, our enemies in battle.
So we should not do that. And to not do that is loving your enemy. But to do what God says toward the other person, the relationship you're in is to love him. That's the answer. But if you don't know, and I'm not saying you do or don't, but anybody who doesn't know what the standard of God is, what the will of God is, the desire of God is concerning that particular relationship you're in, you won't know what to do, and you will not be able to love him. You won't. You may do what, oh, it just feels so affectionate and nice to to talk to him or put my hand on him. We've got difficult people in our lives. You got them too. And we keep thinking. We're prone to think in the flesh. Another conversation is gonna fix it. And so we try to have another conversation. It doesn't fix it in every case, my friend. It gets worse. Right. Oh, wait. So what are we to do? Just a minute. I'll be ready. I'll be done. So what are we to do? We are to search the scriptures to find out what we're supposed to do. And the Bible is very clear on these matters.
And we can talk about that some other time, but it comes down to this is the love of God that we do what he tells you to do. Jesus Christ said this very simple. He said this, if you love me, if you love me, just keep my commandments. Do what I tell you to do. That's it's that simple. We need to go beyond that right now, but we can talk about the particulars. Now
[01:41:43] Unknown:
somebody there was a man who said Brent, but I Samuel, I believe. Robbie, did that answer your question? Yeah. I'm glad you stepped forward.
[01:41:52] Unknown:
That was sketch.
[01:41:53] Unknown:
I guess I'm wondering if Brent is meaning that we deal with this as God deals with us individually, That he speaks to us individually through his word and through prayer and through his spirit? Or is he saying that the answer is only in the Bible? And if so, I'm still not sure if I if if I can eat my enemies or not.
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The answer is only in the Bible. That's right. And if you're born from above, the spirit of God dwells in your brain and in your body, and he will illuminate the word of God to you. But the answer is there. It's just a matter of is the spirit of God going to illuminate it and show you how to apply it in individual instances. That's the answer. Don't make it too complicated. I think sometimes yeah. I think you're making it too complicated, but I don't know you so well. Well, we have a a tendency here to overthink things, I think, at times. Yeah. Just do it. What does it say to do? Do it. When you see it in the Bible, you can't go wrong. You can't Hold on. You're chomping at the bit here. Is that sketch?
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Sam Yes. It's sketch. I told you it was Samuel. Yeah. But go let Samuel go ahead.
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Please. Okay. Samuel, I thought it was you.
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Roger, we we started out, about, you know, God hating Esau, and I do believe this is the only time there's an association, that word translated with a man. Now it doesn't happen with Cain. It doesn't happen with Pharaoh. But if you look at Proverbs six 16 through 19, God lists the things that he hates. And I I think one of the big mistakes we make as people is because God knew Esau before he even existed. Right. She has a whole little better understanding of what Esau is about than we do. And when we make the mistake of thinking that we can do something that God does, that scenario
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Well, what if you're directed to? Like, do this. Do this. It didn't say I'm going to do it. It says somebody else is. Go look over that list for Proverbs on the things he hates. Would you say, Samuel? Yep. I yeah. I I I think that if you,
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you're gonna know if if God's calling you to do something. Like, look at all these Zionist committing genocide over in Palestine. I mean, I don't think God's sanctioning that one.
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Anyway, here's the list. Little God, Satan is.
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Number one is arrogance and pride. Two is deception and lying. Three is murder and violence. Four is malice, evil intentions. Five is, eagerness to do wrong. Six is, perjury or false testimony. And seven is gossip and causing division.
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Well, I can put pen every one of those pins right on the tail of our enemies. Yeah. In space. I know.
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Okay. I think we just have to be careful about whether we think Well we can do what God does and justify it, which is, I think, an error. We we need to to to be thoughtful and prayerful over any action we take against enemy. And, you know, over the time, I've learned that it's a lot easier to try to make peace with somebody who's attacking me than to try to dig a hole a deeper hole.
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How do you make how do you make peace with somebody that you can't trust and they say an oath every year that they can lie, cheat, and steal for the next year. How do you how do you make some sort of a deal with it for a person like that?
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Lies as serpents, gentle as doves.
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See, I don't think you can deal with them. The the the the historic monikers that have been attached to them through history weren't just out of, you know, people, oh, here they come. We're gonna hate them. These people caused that reaction by what they did to cultures and civilizations. They they've earned it. Okay? So, you know, my question again, did they have they not dictated the remedy here? It's not me. I'd like to take a Christian hold it. No. Hold it, Samuel. I'd like you to take this Christian approach you're talking about. Okay? But I can't do it with them because they're not to be trusted in any way shape or form. So how does that bear on that?
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Well, I'm not saying that we don't get to execute justice at some point over all of this. What I'm saying is I find it very very unique that only once in the Bible is there an association with hate and a man, and it's only Esau. I think God's doing that purposely, and I don't think we quite understand it.
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Well, that could very well could be. Very well could be, Samuel.
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This is Mitch.
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Yes.
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Alright. Yes, ma'am. Female comment.
[01:47:20] Unknown:
Hi, Rogers and Brent. This is Nancy in Virginia. Hey, Nate. To your question, Roger, I think, you know, about, a double measure in Revelations, would it not have to be as instruments as intro instruments of god's vengeance as, in executing that? We would have it would have to be in alignment and consistent with the rest of god's laws.
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Well, I agree with that, Nancy. Okay. Yeah. My question is always be how could we serve them double what they've done to us? How do you double what these people have done to us over two thousand years?
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I think it would be those in contemplation of that question at the time of that action. Right? I mean, how how else can you answer that? I I don't know. So it'd be You know,
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things that you can think about, I think about occasionally, more probably more than occasionally. And, I I just I I do we wait for Jesus to come back to separate the tares from the wheat and and let them continue to torture? See, I maintain that either we we gotta kill them or they gotta kill us or we can't live together. That that seems to me Amen. Only three conclusions that I've been able to come to in dealing with these people. And what they've done and what Zionism did was it pulled them out of the ghettos, the Orthodox and the other Jews where they're very easily identifiable.
Now they built those ghettos. We didn't build them and put them in there. They built them to separate themselves from us. Well, Zionism took them out of that, put them in suits and ties, and stuck them on Wall Street and political offices. And look where we are. Roger?
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Yes. Roger.
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Hold hold on. Female. Yes, ma'am.
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Roger, it seems to me that in the Old Testament times, god used his people to destroy the enemy. What happened to us now? What why isn't why are we just so passive and just You you wanna know why? That's my question.
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Because they know the power of religion. And back in the middle of the eighteen hundreds, they were already cultivating an antidote on how to deal with this when they co opted Scofield. And that whole thing and now the whole control over all the churches in the World Council of Churches have led to those attitudes. My opinion.
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I'm aware of that, but my question still is why in the Old Testament did the Father have His children destroy the enemy? Why isn't He doing that with us now? It's almost like He's just, you know, let's we're we're just the whipping board. Well And I I don't think that's God's will. Why can't why why doesn't God allow us to go after him and destroy him now like he did in the Old Testament?
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You know, I don't know, Brent. You got you wanna weigh in here? You wanna Well, he is sideline there. He didn't do that in the Old Testament anymore than you see it done today. God just as often had, Israel's enemies destroy them. Real about what's going on here. The wrath of God is being revealed continuously from heaven against all ungodliness of men who hold the truth and unrighteousness. You if you can't see that, well, then look harder. I know it's happening right now. And he uses us, and we don't even know it. But I say again, it's not a matter of us picking up a weapon and going out and shooting people. It's a matter of us simply doing what he tells us to do. Right. If you love me, just do what I tell you to do. I'll fight your battles. I'll defend your borders. And then when the time comes, you will be used too to do what I want you to do. But anybody who thinks they're gonna be a lone ranger, I'm not blaming you, miss, but, lone ranger go out and destroy the enemy. That ain't gonna happen. They they tell us expressly not to do that. Brent? It says come out of her. Come out of her. Yes. Oh, yes. I mean, there's this is why I say it's not a matter it's not a matter of, going out and doing what you think is right. Oh, I see injustice, and I think we should stop. No. It's a matter of of you, me, individually, soaking our brains in the Bible.
And when we do that, that will transform. The Bible says it transforms our minds, and it transforms our lives, and it puts something about us that scares God's enemies. And we don't even know it. There's no arrogance gonna be attached to it because we don't even know. But God uses us that way. We must, and to do this, must trust him
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and just do what he tells us to do. If you don't think they know he exists, why would they go in some woman's apartment in England and arrest them for praying in their apartment? How about standing down the block from an abortion clinic, silent prayer? You don't think that they don't fear it? Why would they go screw those people the way they do?
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Mary, queen of Scots said I fear she said I fear the prayers of John Knox more than all the armies of Europe. And she wasn't just kidding. That wasn't just a off the cuff joke. She was scared out of her wits. No question. Scared of us. And things haven't changed a bit. As a matter of fact, the Bible says in Hebrews again that if you think God was brutal in the Old Testament and you think things were rough then, there God is more serious and rougher and more brutal now. And the reason it says he's more brutal now is because we have the completed written revelation of Jesus Christ.
We have no excuse, and God is not going to tolerate, and he doesn't tolerate people disrespecting him and his son and the spirit of God. You reject the spirit of God, you have committed the unforgivable sin. And there's a definition to that too. We're going through that in Jude right now on on Saturdays. Saturdays.lawyer.com. You can join us. My point is in the second.
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Brent, Sketch has been chomping here. Go ahead, Sketch.
[01:53:50] Unknown:
Yes. I appreciate the time. So I will preface this by saying my definition of war is organized murder, which I don't think, the Lord approves of. But, we did have a revolutionary war with Christians fighting against the British. And question is, did they come out of her by taking up arms? And is that the proper I've I've struggled with this. How do I, walk in the Lord's footsteps and defend myself and my family, with force? And do I do I, kill them with love, because of their wicked ways? And I was supposed to bring up a topic about Masons, which I'll don't think we'll get to today. I yield. Thank you.
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Well, the mandate of God to men it says that you're worse than unbeliever if you don't provide for your family. And you can't provide for your family if you allow other people to abuse them and kill them and rob them and rape them. That is why in our common law tradition and in the Bible, the whole idea of self defense means you bear a weapon. Peter came to Jesus Christ and said, Jesus Christ said, if you've got a cloak and a cloak was something not everybody could afford. If you've got one, I suggest you sell it and buy a sword.
And, well, what the disciples said to him after that is material to what we're saying here. But the bottom line is Jesus Christ said you need to be able to defend yourself. The Bible does is forbid you from executing vengeance, but when somebody's coming after you with intent to kill or to maim or harm you or your family, you have an affirmative duty to stop them. That is true. And I suggest that people people, take a a firearms training course, safety and marksmanship, purchase a military grade weapon and 500 rounds of ammunition, and then take that training course because you have a duty under the law of God. You are a member of the militia. If you're a man, you are a member. Whether you know it or not or understand it or not, if you're over 20 years old according to the Bible, you have that duty. By the way, that's the age of accountability in the Bible.
If you're over 20 years old, you better get real serious about finding out what is God wants you to do. That's why 603,548 men Men, exactly that many died during the forty years in the wilderness. The Bible says in the New Testament that God slew them. Slew them. They were the age of accountability, and they they were apostate, and they rejected the illumination of the spirit of God to their minds. Well, the spirit of God eliminated their minds, and they said we don't care. And that's what happened to them. 603,548 men, aged 20 years old and above.
And so it's our duty to recognize that we are here to support and defend the law of the land. Our common law comes in two volumes, and the court of last resort of of those two volumes is the Bible. We are here to defend against enemies foreign. That means willingness to take up arms to defend our land. And against enemies domestic, that means a willingness to serve on the jury. The militia of under our common law tradition and in the Bible has the duty of governance. Armed defense and jury duty. Jury duty, defend the law of the land. Armed defense, defend the land. That's why our oath says what it says. It's an ancient oath going back hundreds and hundreds of years. We still use it here in America.
That's its meaning, and we're not recognizing that clearly. We have a duty of defense of the land and of those that are here with us, our fellow freemen. Does that does that respond to your question? Please tell me.
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Yes. Hey, Brad.
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Thank you so much. Good. I really appreciate it because it it's been a struggle for me for twenty years trying to answer that, and that added to me solving that problem. Thank you.
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I also suggest that you go to commonlawyer.com and get a copy of the book called, the militia of the several states, our constitution's answer to its enemies, foreign and domestic. And that booklet is, about the four militia clauses of our US constitution. There are four, and three of them are totally ignored and forgotten. Yeah. The fourth one is the second amendment. But, it's important that we, revitalize, our understanding of that Amen. And pick up our duty as men as men. Yep.
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There was somebody Bob, was that you?
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Yeah. Since I started this whole hornet's nest, I think I was gonna try to resolve it. I hear a whistler. Let me wait on that.
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Okay. Well, then in that case, it'll take about thirty seconds here, a few seconds to get through this, and then I'll call it a Friday. We'll obviously hang around and address this and occasionally get into other discussions for unbelievable lengths of time, but don't know about that today, at least on my part. But, we'll be back again tomorrow on our Saturday show, of course. And, Mark will be back, and and, people are already wanting to talk to him. So, it's it'll be a a good show, I'm sure. And then we'll be back Monday after that. Otherwise, I just hope that the folks appreciate that we have Brent on this regular schedule here on every every week and, that, my my opinion of Brent is he's a national treasure. That's not the first time I've said that, and maybe those of you who are just getting, exposed to Brent will come to feel the same. We're tickled to death to be friends with him and have this, co co host Friday, and we've come up with some startling results from discussions here over the years.
So, anyway, have a, good Friday evening, and, we'll be back with you tomorrow or soon. One of the two. And, Francine, sure was good to see you show up, girl. Okay. We're gonna lay our bodies down. Paul's gonna knock us off the, feed, and we'll address Bob's situation.
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Okay. Thank you. Well, I have no problem endorsing what's been said. My only concern has been over time listening to you, Roger. It seems like it it tends towards vigilantism, even your enthusiasm. That's my only concern. I can't
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I I know too much. I understand too much. I've studied them too much. And to me, and until justice comes, there ain't no other answer. You gotta address how do you deal with these people.
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Yeah. I get it. But that that was my only concern. If we are used as instruments of God's vengeance, sign me up. I'll get in front. I mean, listen.
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So Boy, I can Okay. I can make up one of them 13 loop hangmanuses quicker than you can shake a lamb's tail twice.
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Right here.
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Yeah. Samuel.
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The the the problem is is, you you know, as a country, those those seven things that God hates, we are doing as public policy.
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And, of course, well, who who's been running the country for ninety two years? What else would you expect?
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You know, there's there's that old joke. You know? If, if God is fair, he's gonna have to judge us or he's gonna owe Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.
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Samuel, I I I mean, you know, I can't argue with you. It's repulsive. That's why men you know what? That's why thirty something years ago, finally, after being having an angst about this from when I was in college in the sixties of knowing something was wrong and not being able to pinpoint it, that's when I jumped into the tax thread. Buddy, I had me a thread then, and I'm still following it here today with us here right now.
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Samuel.
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And as I tell people, Samuel, I found God. I refound God. I was exposed to him when I was early, younger, but I found God because I found Satan in the damn internal revenue code. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Another way to look at that, Samuel, and you've heard this before. I mean, I know I've stated it on this program, but it's instructive, and other people may not have heard it. Look at the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and tell me we're not a communist nation. Now Absolutely. Maybe we're not communist in our conception, but we're certainly communist in our execution right now as a national government. We have embraced wholeheartedly every plank. Yes. I agree. Yeah. So that's another way of looking at what you were just saying. You know, public policy is absolutely perverted. Yes.
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Well, we use we use deception and betrayal and and violence to create this whole Ukraine and Middle East thing. And I heard yesterday, because both sides are keeping the death toll to themselves, but they're estimating that a thousand people a day die on on those two sides of that that line, which is about 800 miles long.
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Roger me?
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Yes, Kash? Just
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a quick on, using deception to win. Elon Musk is, is, has put a facade on the IRS to make it look like a Tesla, dealership.
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And, I think that's
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one way to one way to win through deception.
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Ah, Potemkin Village. Okay. Too funny. So, anyway well, I got a a lunch appointment here in a few minutes, and so I'm gonna not hang around today. But, Brent, I don't know what's going on with him. He's mighty quiet, Joan. Yes. Do you have something for me specifically?
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Roger, you might wanna hear this. Brent, what is your understanding of that, serve them back double the cup that they served you.
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I don't know if he's with us. He might have split.
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He's muted. Brent, are you talking? Roger.
[02:05:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm here. I I wanted to ask for somebody to tell me what she said because
[02:05:35] Unknown:
What your could you your interpretation of Revelation eighteen three or four words is serve her double, fill her cup double?
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Oh, I suppose was talking about,
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the wrath of God filling the cup up. Is that the passage there? That's what's well, somebody's supposed to do it. He says, come out of her, my people. Come out of her, and then says, fill her cup double. We serve her double what she served you. Well, my interpretation is come out of her as the remnant, and that's what we're supposed to do. He doesn't say, I'm going to fill her cup double. He he says, do it. Somebody else is supposed to do it.
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Yeah. And the question is, what verse what what verse is that in chapter 18?
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It's right, I don't know, four or five right down there, below come out of her, my people. And then it's right underneath that come out of her, my people. Yeah. Well,
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I'm looking, but it's I'm not popping up to me. I'm getting a Bible here, but maybe, she can tell us what verse that is. Can you tell us?
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Joan, can you give us the verse number? I'm in a different room. I cannot get to the Bible right this moment. Okay. Well, it can't be very far down the list. I mean, I can just about quote the 18 for you to that point.
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Uh-huh.
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It's it can't be more than 45675 456, maybe. Yeah.
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Yeah. Let me read it here. Let's start up here in the early verse of chapter 18. He said, I saw John speaking says, I saw by the way, he was over 90 years old when he wrote this, and he was he was in slave labor on the Isle Of Patmos. He tells us at the beginning he was on Patmos. 1 of the messengers of God came down having great power. The earth was lightened up with his glory like lightning. They cried mightily with a strong voice, Babylon, the greatest fallen, is fallen and has become the habitation of devils and holds every foul spirit and cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, And the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. Verse four. And I heard another voice from heaven saying, come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, that you receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and god hath remembered her iniquities. That's her sins. Reward her even as she has rewarded you. Reward her even as she has rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works in the cup with which she hath filled her of of his militia, come out of her, my people. And then he tells my people what to do. And this brings up a point again, the simple reality of the vocabulary.
Every time you see the words my people in the Bible or Right. The people, that is, denoting a band of armed men. And in most all cases in the Bible, as this case here, it denotes the militia of God himself. The militia of God himself. A band a large band of armed men. He's commanding his militia to execute his judgment upon her. And then he goes on talks about the kings of the earth who have committed fornication, verse nine. The merchants, he talks about that again. Merchants and fruit, alas, alas, the great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, etcetera. For in one hour, all this is gonna come to naught. And he's commanding the militia of his people, the males, my friends, the males to do this.
The question is when and how. And here's what I because he doesn't specifically tell me, Brent, you gotta go. No. He's telling his militia. And when he speaks of militia, he speaks in the singular. He's talking about a group, a number of men together under proper command. When we were teaching the militia course, we talked about the four militia clauses, sheriff Darleaf and I. You can take that course if you go to commonlawyer.com. I made a point of stressing over and over and over. I didn't want anybody to miss it. But the militia is always under authority of a chain of command that God has established.
Always. There are three possibilities of the command of the militia. Number one, the county sheriff when he when he raises the posse, the posse, the possibility, the possible power of the county, the posse. Those are the militiamen of the county. The governor of your state, when he calls out a a militia when he calls the militia out, then he has authority over the militia or the president of The United States. When he calls the militia of a state out or any any group of states, he has authority over the militia, and they become members of the armed part a part of the armed forces of the United States. That's according to our constitution. The militia does not act on its own. You don't form a local militia like we saw this this crazy mad woman down in Kentucky bragging.
She had tattoos all over her hide, and she's smoking a cigarette and talking about how many men she commands. No. If there's men she commands, they're not men. Yeah. They're just following after a woman. There's a big difference. That that's not the militia. She's not the governor. She's not the sheriff, and she's not the president of The United States. Don't get caught up in this local militia stuff. Sheriff Darleaf made a good point, and you can prove this in history. If there's gonna be a problem with the militia in America, it's gonna be militia on militia because they're not under proper authority and command. Lawful. Let's use the word lawful authority and command.
That's what we try to stress. So when this happens, what it says here, when this happens, it'll be under proper authority and command. And, until that happens, I'm just standing by. I may be called to do something. I don't know. Is the price has the militia been called out lately in your county or your state? I dare say people don't even know what the militia is. Like I said a while ago, the militia is not something you join. The militia is something you're born into. If you're male and you reach age 20 and you're capable, able-bodied to carry a weapon in battle, military grade weapon, but then that's when you become part of the militia, and it's a matter of law. It's not a matter of volunteering or having a con Right. God said, that's who you are. Go ahead, Roger. No. I was just gonna say you could probably,
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in the word's not encrypt, but grab them and make them be in the militia.
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As a duty. As a duty. Oh, if you don't do it, no. Every state, they'll say that. You don't answer the call of sheriff when he calls out the posse. That's a crime. Yeah. You'll be you'll be penalized. Same thing with this with the governor and with the president. Go ahead, Roger. No. I'm because I believe the word you were looking for, Roger, was
[02:13:22] Unknown:
conscript. Conscription. What word are you looking for? Conscription. Yep. Thank you. You're right. I just, I just gotta go. You guys are welcome to stay around. I don't know what Brent's got going on. I know it's he likes to, interact with you. Right. So, but I'll see I'll see y'all tomorrow. Alright, Roger. Thank you, Brent.
[02:13:41] Unknown:
See you, Freddie. Bye. Have a nice day.
[02:13:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Alright. Did did somebody say my name? Yeah. Brent. A bunch of people did. Well, I can hear you. Enjoy your day. Yeah.
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May I ask? It's nice that we could say goodbye to Roger before jumping on Brent before Roger even hung up. That was that was Roger
[02:14:06] Unknown:
Roger's been helpful because he has helped maintain order, and that's important here. I appreciate it, but he he's got to go visit with his home because I'm talking about his ex his ex pats down there. So what is it on your mind, ma'am? What's your name?
[02:14:23] Unknown:
Hi. I'm Julie Brent. Nice to talk to you again.
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Hey. Live in.
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About those laws that are being rolled out right now.
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Well, it's not it's not signed in the law until congress is a Trump could sign all the things he wants to sign. That doesn't mean it's it's law. Congress has the power of legislation. The president doesn't have that power, and the courts have that power. So keep that in mind, although it's the clearly, I I don't know. Why do they call them Noah Hyde laws? That's just dumb. I mean, why don't I just call them the laws that God gave Noah? Where where it says Hyde business? That's, some Jewish stuff. So I don't know. I don't like to follow-up. Hide them. Wanna say things. To hide them from the public. It's deception. To hide Noah,
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hide the laws.
[02:15:35] Unknown:
Well Noah law is not hiding them. The coup. No. But the Jews are not hiding them. The Jewish rabbis went to the president and said, we're not hiding these. Here they are. So that that can't be mod what it means. They're not hiding Yeah. But everybody I think
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everybody I talk to doesn't know anything about them. They're like, what are those?
[02:15:55] Unknown:
Well, but no. I think but don't people know that, by who shed man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed? I know a lot of people have known that all of my life. Those are popular, well known verses, aren't they?
[02:16:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Absolutely. But I'm just talking from the standpoint that, you know, like, for example, in Germany right now, if you say anything about the Holocaust, you go straight to prison. They're rolling out all of these laws. If you say anything about Israel now that it's death to threaten by beheading, it's a one world order for one world government and a one world religion. That's what all the Noahide laws are are being rolled out.
[02:16:37] Unknown:
Well, no. The Noah the Noah what's they call the Noahide laws or the seven laws of Noah. The seven laws of Noah, we call them. They're not hidden. They've never been hidden. The Jews haven't tried to hide them. What the Jews wanna say is, we want all other people to be bound by these seven laws and, but we we know more. This is for the stupid people. This is for the women and the children and other mental deficient like the Talmud says. And so they want us to be bound by these to acknowledge it's just it's gobbledygook foolishness. The Bible I'm not saying you are, of course. I'm just saying the people to say this. The Bible is the revealed will of God, all of it. And the seven laws of Noah, as people call them, are also the revealed will of God as is the rest of the Bible. There's no distinction here between these laws. If you go to the law of Moses, as they call it, you'll find that murder is against the law and, you could be executed.
You go to the New Testament, you see the same thing. The laws of Noah say that too. So what's the what's the problem here? Why are we why are we isolating these and say for something special?
[02:17:51] Unknown:
So they just wanted your opinion. Just don't know.
[02:17:54] Unknown:
Bottom line. Bottom line. If you murder somebody, it's against the law. And that's what we were talking about today in, Romans 12, vengeance is mine. That's the whole context there is criminal jurisdiction over murder. And that's and and envy, envy and vengeance go together, and they always report in murder if you give them enough time. Well, that's what, these the law all of the Bible is a continuum, unbroken. Jesus Christ said scripture cannot be broken. You can't isolate one part of it and say it doesn't relate to another. That's not possible. Jesus Christ said that. I didn't say that. I know men that have written volumes. Well, I used to know them. They're gone now. Volumes on that one verse. Scripture cannot be broken. It can't be separated. It is a continuous chain.
It is all, one piece of cloth that doesn't have any seams in it. And the warp and the woof all strengthen it and all undergird each part of it together. It's not to be separated. Well, the Noahide laws are nothing but the law what God said to Noah when he got off the ark. That's all they are, but that's a lot. They're very important. For example, he says, do not eat blood. Do not drink blood. Well, why is it? Because the life of the flesh, the Bible says, is in the blood. And beside that, eating blood is not good for you. It's not healthy to eat blood and blood pudding and all that kind of stuff. Don't do that. So that's what the laws are. And, yeah, the rabbis have been in the Oval Offices of some presidents in the past and tried to get the president to sign some revolution acknowledging that. That's a clear violation of the first amendment to let a bunch of rabbis come in and get and and say we these are our laws, and we want you to sign them. You say they they include seven laws in the no eyed laws, and they're not they're not all that well, why should we pay it any attention to their division and understanding the Bible when they don't have the spirit of God?
They say that Jesus Christ, his mother was a whore, and he, who was impregnated by a Roman soldier that was garrisoned close by. And right now, they say, according to their writings, he's in, human sewage up to his neck, and the human sewage he is in is boiling. That's what they say about Jesus Christ. Now could you be more blasphemous than that? The Bible says, blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly. That's Psalms chapter one verse one. Blessed is the man. Happy. Good spell is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly. Well, who's the ungodly? I think we've been talking about them. What they say doesn't matter. We don't walk in their counsel. God's people don't listen to them. Get away from them. Don't pay any attention to them. Just leave them alone. Treat them as heathens and tax collectors like Jesus Christ says. So don't get caught up in this Noahide law. There is no such word in the Bible. Noahide.
Is that word in the Bible? Try to try to look it up and see if you can find what it means. And now some people say, Noachian Noachian laws. I've heard that word. That's the way you say Right. Why why say just say the laws of of Noah? Why why use all these fancy words that don't mean anything? That's more confusion that the empire wants to put on the Bible. Somebody yeah. Go ahead. Somebody's saying something.
[02:21:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I looked it up, and it's sons of Noah, and they consider themselves non Jewish.
[02:21:38] Unknown:
Who does?
[02:21:40] Unknown:
Noahides.
[02:21:42] Unknown:
Well, all of us that are sons of Noah, Noah is the second father of Adam's race. And if we're of Adam's race, we are sons of Noah. So what what are these people saying?
[02:21:55] Unknown:
That's what Noahide means according to them. It's sons of Noah, and they're non Jewish.
[02:22:01] Unknown:
Well, that that's just, that's just talk. I don't know what that means. I mean, I don't find anything in the Bible defines it. But go ahead. They're they're basing this on the Talmud and such. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. In other words, they come they just make it up as they go. That's what that means. I'm not exaggerating. Yeah. Over the centuries. Yeah. Well, thank Grant? Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead.
[02:22:26] Unknown:
I was supposed to remind you, about, a question on the judiciary and the masons, and I did talk to Joe. And he did say he had a retired he had a friend that was a retired judge, but he didn't know if he was a Mason or not. So he really didn't have any answers for me, and I just wanted your opinion last week on that you've dealt with a lot of judges over around the country. And I just want your opinion on do you think that do you have any suspicions, or do you have any knowledge that some of these judges are masons? And, I guess you don't Oh. I No.
Yeah. And I don't know if you know the oath of the Masons, but the Masons, you know, have a very if you break supposedly, if you break the the oath of of of masonry, you you can get your throat slit. So I'm just wondering if if if they are Masons, is there a oath higher than the oath they take to be a judge? I yield. Thank you so much.
[02:23:35] Unknown:
Well, ask yourself this question. If you're a Roman Catholic, is your commitment to the pope higher than your commitment to God or higher than your if your commitment to the pope, that's a commitment to the Vatican? You take an oath as a when you're confirmed, is that higher than your oath to your own country? What would you say?
[02:23:55] Unknown:
I would say yes.
[02:23:57] Unknown:
You're Yeah. That yeah. That's a real real problem. That's a real problem. And we're not paying attention. Let's get serious about life here. Who are you? What back to, we said a couple hours ago, loyalty. To whom do you, does God say you owe loyalty? Some religious leader someplace, I mean, or Hitler or the emperor of Japan or the boss in Russia or China. That's what they do. So if you and and Joe has confirmed, We appreciate it. One time Joe was on here, and he'd made comment that he was a Mason. And so I said, can I ask you some questions? And he said, sure. And we just had a quite a discussion, and I found out things I wondered about a long time. The oath you're talking about. Yes. But, is that, is that, is that in conflict with, such an oath if you're on the bench? Is that in conflict? Yes. Why? Well, because you're on the bench and you, Mason come before you and he's one of the parties in the case. Are you going to give him favor?
Are you going to favor his point of view? Look at him a little more liberally in your interpretation of the law, compared to the other fellow who has made it clear he's not a mason or he hates masonry or whatever. Is it does that happen? Of course it happens. Has it been happening? Yes. It's happened. How about on juries? Of course. What about in our military services? Oh, that's per been pretty big in past decades in our military services. I can tell you by personal experience that the Masons have sway in many areas or have had. I don't know what it is now. Our military services or courts, all that stuff is real. I've watched prosecutors stand at the stand while they're doing cross examination. And before they get started, put religious artifacts up on the stand, little trinkets and goofy stuff. Pertains to Judaism, Romanism, all that stuff. Oh, that's true. Don't tell me that your religion does not dictate your actions. It does.
It does. And everybody's got religion whether they understand it or not. It does. Yeah. Like Jonathan Edwards, the fellow I mentioned a while ago. He concluded, he wrote a book about it called religious affections, and he made the point that, religious affections are the springs of all human activity. All human action is the result of religious affections. It's quite a statement, but it's true. Absolutely true. According to the Bible and according to all experience, your deepest beliefs about reality and your existence will dictate what you say and what you do ultimately. And everybody's got them.
So when we talk about, when we talk about masonry, yeah, it's real. Those, those holes are real. And do people take them serious? Yes, they do. Why do men join masonry? Masonry different reasons. Joe gave us some of his. I appreciated that, and I understood it too, by the way. And, I'll I'll I'll I'll heard you. I'll let you talk just a minute. I'll let me finish this thought. People don't men, join these groups sometimes, a lot of times, because they're sick to death of the childishness, the effeminacy, the stupidity of the churches.
They wanna have real camaraderie about ultimate things with other men. That's why. In that in that sense, you can't blame them. Churches are no place to find manhood. No. They're effeminate. They're goofy. They're stupid. Not all of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And that's what most people see is just the most of them, and they just say, I'm not gonna be a part of this. Well, I wouldn't wanna be a part of it either. We have church on Sunday, and and we have it on Saturday. We teach the Bible among other platforms five days a week. And I get a lot of feedback from what I say. And I can report to you that a lot of people come to church with us on the Internet that have been in church all of their lives, and they don't wanna go to church in any of the churches around them. They're just fed up. I said, why are you here? Why don't you go to church, like other people do? Why do you come here?
I I I want somebody to talk about the Bible, and I wanna listen to somebody who's wrestled with it and tell me what they found. And so we come here because you do that. I'm just giving you a testimony, and I'm wrestling hard with it. I have for many decades, and I'm trying to find out what it says. And as I discover what I'm convinced of it's saying, then I say it. And, they don't get that in the church. They just get baloney. And so men, though, a lot of men, men, seek camaraderie. That's what the militia of the several States is, for as well, by the way. It's, an entrance into manhood. It's an important part of our culture.
God has given us institutions that provide this camaraderie. Men are to be the leaders. Men are to be the upfront men. Men, upfront people. The, the militia of the several states, the Bible calls it trans translated the people or my people. And they're the ones that are supposed to take the responsibility for what's going on. Are they doing it? No. They aren't. They're the ones that are supposed to catch the shrapnel and bullets if they ever come. Not their nieces, not their daughters, not their wives, no them. Are they doing it? No. They're promoting, as you know, quite another point of view. They're the ones that are supposed to risk take the risk of being in government, in the legislature, in the courts fighting, and the risk that are attended to that. And there's a lot of risk. It's pretty brutal. But what do they do instead? They send their wives and their nieces and their daughters.
What what have we turned into? And that's why men join these organizations, by the way. Men need the camaraderie that God provides in these in these, organizations. Hang on just a minute. I've got a, somebody else.
[02:29:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to ask one last question, Brent. I don't know if you can hear me with your, distract whatever you're doing. That's fine.
[02:29:58] Unknown:
Well, I can hear you. Go ahead.
[02:30:01] Unknown:
Can a judge act in honor if he's a mason and act act with clean hands? You'll appreciate your answer.
[02:30:11] Unknown:
Well and the answer is yes. He can. And I'll tell you why I say that. There's not a man. We went over we've stressed this while ago just to bring the principle back. There's not a man among us who's a good man according to the bible. There are men among us that God is taken out of our sins. He's taken us out of the sewer and and decency, and we're we're on that road. We're right headed. There are men like that. There are men that are Romanist like Justice Scalia that have one foot in Babylonianism and the other foot in truth. There and there are Christian men. And my, studied opinion just watched and listened to him, but it it created a conflict. There are men that are masons that are doing a lot of things, but it inevitably creates a conflict. I would just ask you, what have you got in your life that's crowding the spirit of God? What have I got in my brain that's crowding the spirit of God? I'm sure it's something more than I ought to have there. We all have that. God can use anybody. God makes straight licks with crooked sticks. Don't look for perfection. No. No. No. No. Look for right headed men.
God's people are headed in one direction, and all of the rest of all other men are a 80 degrees headed in the other. That's it. Either you're headed in the right direction or you aren't. Either you're tending in the right direction or you aren't. And God saves you, and he gives you right headedness. And that's what that Hebrew word means, and that's what that Greek word in the New Testament translated righteousness. It means right headedness. That's what that old English word means. We're right headed. If we're Christian folk, that's a good thing. We should be pretty happy about it. But don't get the idea that you're you haven't got conflicts in your life. I know you don't. I'm not saying you do again. I'm speaking to a broad audience because you raised the question, and it's a good point. And we need to be asking that question. What kind of perfection are we looking for? Is DJ Trump running for Sunday was he running for Sunday school superintendent or president of The United States? Is he Jesus Christ or a mortal who's wound up and bound up in his own whims and difficulties probably more than most of us? And the answer is the latter. Yes. He's wound up and bound up in his own whims and difficulties more than us. But god says, I'm the one that makes straight licks with crooked sticks. I'll use you that way too. And he will. He will. Look at look at Noah. Look at Noah. You know, he made that ark. He, he he, he just concentrated on saving his family. He didn't worry about saving the world. And he he did save the race of Adam because he tried to save his family. Then he he gets off the arc. What's the first thing that happens? Pretty quick. You remember?
He gets drunk. That's and then the trouble starts, you know, and it just and it just gets worse from there. But God saves a man. He picks men out from among others, and he sets them on solid ground. And I assume I'm well, I am. I'm addressing those people, whoever they are. You got ears to hear. You got eyes to see. God's enlightened your mind, the spirit of God. I'm talking to you. Those are the only people I get they're gonna understand anything I say anyway if I'm talking about the things of God. So I'm not targeting anybody else. They can listen if they want, but I'm talking to you. And, I I'm assuming, and I think I'm getting that, some of you, the indications are, you're a kindred spirit with me. And that's we're we got our noses headed in the same direction.
By the way, I said the other day I heard this a little, drop on a footnote here. I heard, from Paul English, and I heard his wife passed away. And she'd been, he had been her her caretaker for a long time, and she was to where she couldn't take care of herself and had dementia. And I got word, and and I I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to people that lose their spouse of many years? And you you struggle. What can I I don't wanna be I don't wanna have some pious platitudes or quote a verse or I thought, what can I say? And I said, well, he's a kindred spirit, and I get depression from what I gather. His head is, headed in his nose, headed in the same direction as me. I've listened to him talk about it. And so I'd identified with him. I think when people go through rough times, he's doing pretty good, by the way. He said, I'm okay, Brent. I said, good. And, you know, it's one of those things that matter of fact, he said, there's relief. There's grief with relief.
And, he had grief, and he has grief now, but he has relief because of the onerous nature of his wife's condition condition. So I report things are good, though, with him. He told me everything's fine, Brent. I got more gumption than I ever had. I said good. And, but I I the point I'm making is I I didn't he identified him as a kindred spirit because we need to know there are others with us in times of grief. That's what I'm saying. And when I listen to you folk talk, I I sensed that you're interested in the Bible, and that's a that's a sign of the spirit of God working in your life.
Back to you. Did I lose you? Somebody out there? Hello? Maybe I did. Oh, here I am. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. You're here. You're here with us.
[02:35:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I, as I study more and more, I I realized that, you know, being in the flesh, we take the Bible as if what's being said is is always fleshly right. Well, there's a whole lot of spirit going on, and in in translating, do you get that feeling that oftentimes these these things are more spiritual than they are physicals when they're making references like hating and such like that?
[02:36:15] Unknown:
No and yes. Let me say it this way. There's too much spiritualizing going on, and spiritualizing to us who live in the real tangible world is meaningless, really. In other words well, those people say to me and I'm not stepping on your toes here. I I think I grasped what you're saying, and I'll get to that. So I I think and I I can identify, and and you're asking me a question. I appreciate it. But I I think that we are too quick because we don't know what else to say, and it's a Christian platitude to say, well, he's not spiritual enough. And then I say to the people like that, well, what are you talking about? What do you mean when you say that? Does that mean he's not applying the word of God to his life in the world? Well, I guess, yeah, that's what I mean. Well then why don't you say so? Why do you, why do you spiritualize? The Bible doesn't do that. The Bible never says it that way.
Everything about the Bible is in the flesh here, and everything is tangible. Jesus Christ did not resurrect in the spirit. That was a bodily tangible event. In the flesh as Paul or John says in first John, he who does not confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh is is an of the spirit of antichrist. So the flesh is imminently important. That's where we live. But to get to your point, our flesh is a function of a spiritual reality. The spiritual reality is not a function of the flesh. Our flesh, our tangible world is a result of the spirit of God himself.
God is spirit. Who's ever seen the spirit? You can't the spirit. You can't smell it. She can't taste it. She can't touch it. Well, what can you do? Well, you can see what the spirit of God does. I can watch the wind blow the trees and blow the limbs and I can watch the wind blow the Johnson grass, but I can't see the wind. It's that kind of a thing. I can see what the spirit of God does And the Bible tells me how to discern the product, the actions of the spirit of God. But I tend in my own mind as I read the Bible to see that the Bible is imminently geared toward the tangible and tangible bodily obedience.
Present your bodies as not a dead sacrifice, but a living sacrifice to God, which is the only reasonable thing you can do, which that's what it says. It's to be true. We cannot cannot offer up anything of the spirit. We can't put our hands on the spirit. Do we have a spirit? Yes. Do we have the spirit of God in our bodies? Yes. How do you get under the influence of the spirit? Well, Paul says it this way, be not drunk with wine. This is an he's analog analogizing to liquor, be not drunk with wine, but be filled with a spirit. Well, how do you get under the influence of liquor?
You pop the cork and you pour it down your gullet. That's how you get under the influence of liquor. That influence is a very negative influence. You lose all discernment and judgment at some point, and then you pass out and you say things you wish you hadn't said, and you do things that are stupid and are not dignified. Okay. I don't want that be not drunk with wine, but on the contrary, be under the influence instead of being under the influence of liquor, be under the influence of the spirit of God. Well, how do you do that? Well, you've got to get the spirit of God inside of you. Well, how does that happen?
Well, when you see the calculus of what the Bible says and you add it all together and you study it and look at it. Oh, I get it. You put the word of God in you. That's what you do. That gives the spirit of God who that is in you by the by the sovereign power of God. The spirit of God is in the believer lives in his in his brain, lives in his flesh, and in his body. And then you provide the word of God more the word of God. And then the spirit of God has the handle to move your body, to move your tongue, to move your legs, to protect you from evil. That's the enjoyment of the Christian life. That's why we need the word of God to reiterate that again. It always comes back to these fundamentals, but no, we're not looking number one. We're not looking for the perfect man. We're looking for the right headed man. The kindred spirit that's on the same road going the same direction. Like Christian was on the same road with his companion, faithful and pilgrims progress and it didn't last forever, but they were on the same road for awhile. I had, well, I've had people say to me, well, we're on the same road. We're walking the same direction. As long as that is true, let's keep walking.
How can two men, let's get this together here from the Bible. How can two men, the Bible says, walk together unless they be agreed? That's right. How can a man and a woman walk together unless they be agreed at the fundamental point? They can't. They'll either. They'll if they cannot agree on a common external standard whereby to govern their relationship, then they will either fight and eventually they will have to fight until one of them can't fight anymore. Sometimes that results in death. That's called war. That's what happens. Can't agree on a common external standard whereby to govern their relationship. Christian men have the same common external standard called the word of God, the laws of nature, and the laws of nature is God.
And we can agree. We will look at the Bible and you know, you look at the Bible and I say, well, we agree. It says that. Yeah. That's what it says. Well, I don't understand it, but we both agree. That's what it says. That's the way it is. Well, that, that means you can walk together. See, I found that to be true in all of my life. I know a lot of Christian folk. We we agree on the Bible as a fundamental standard. Sometimes we disagree, of course, upon how it is to be applied in any particular instance. But we both say, well, nope. Hey. Hey. If that's what it says, that's it. You know, we we agree that way. You know? And I assume you folk are here. A lot of you, you say, well, I can listen to Brent because I agree with him on this one point. The Bible is the final court of last resort. I may not agree with everything Brent says or how he says it. Maybe I think he's too gruff. Maybe I think he's wrong on this application, but we do agree on this that the common external standard called the Bible is the court of last resort in all matters of living.
And so we we can keep walking in the same direction on that and probably find a lot of other things too. Now back to you.
[02:42:44] Unknown:
Hey, Brent.
[02:42:46] Unknown:
I'm here.
[02:42:48] Unknown:
Yeah. To impeach a judge, can anybody like us impeach a judge? Is is there a process? Do you know?
[02:43:02] Unknown:
A process for what?
[02:43:04] Unknown:
Impeaching a judge. Can anybody impeach a judge if they are wrongful?
[02:43:11] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. And your local state, your state legislature has power of impeachment or some part of your state legislature. And if you're if you're a federal judge, then the house of representatives has the power of impeachment.
[02:43:31] Unknown:
And do they just say you're impeached? Do they just say you're impeached, or is there some process they have to follow the legislature or the,
[02:43:42] Unknown:
the other one? Yeah. They take a vote. Yeah. They take a vote. A vote? Take a vote. Yeah. And if they vote, it's like a grand jury indictment. Impeachment is the same thing as a grand jury indictment. And if they vote to impeach somebody, that means they have caught them by the foot. That's what the word means, to catch by the foot. Like eenie, meenie, minie, moe, catch I shouldn't say this, but by the toe, left something out. But yeah. Well, that that's what impeachment is, is to catch a person and hold them for trial. So if the House of Representatives impeaches a federal judge, then he will be tried before the Senate of the United States.
And if they, they'll take a vote. And if they vote to convict him, then he's thrown out of office. That's the way that works.
[02:44:33] Unknown:
I do you know do you think you know some p do you know some judges you would like to see impeached? You don't have to say their names. I was just wondering. Oh, no. I would just like to know. Do you Yeah.
[02:44:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I do. Right. Uh-huh. There's some that definitely should be. No question. They're lawless. And then after they're impeached, maybe they need to be prosecuted by a local prosecutor for a crime and, sentenced. I don't know. There's, yeah, there's, men are not good. That's why we have juries. We don't trust judges, so we have juries. That's why we have them. Yeah. But we need judges. We need judges. They do their jobs sometimes. I I recognize that.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
Yeah. What what percentage of judges do you think should be impeached?
[02:45:35] Unknown:
I don't have any idea. I just know this. Congress should do it more often than they do it. That keeps the judges on their toes. They don't get so arrogant. Yeah. By the way, impeachment yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Alright. You were gonna say you all for
[02:45:55] Unknown:
What was the last thing you were gonna say about impeachment? Sorry. I said something.
[02:46:00] Unknown:
Oh, I just Sorry. I interrupted Impeach power of impeachment and conviction under impeachment is only removal of office. It's not it's not a conviction of any crime. It's just removal from office. That's the end of it. Congress Congress has no jurisdiction to, to convict anybody of a crime and have them sentenced.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:46:25] Unknown:
Yep. Excuse me, Brent.
[02:46:27] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:29] Unknown:
I had I had a question some time ago. I kinda kinda sorta got lost in the fray. Sketch was asking about, if, judges or masons, which oath they take would take precedence, and you had a great answer. That would be the the oath that they give to the country, to their country. Yeah. What about Jewish judges and, a potential conflict between the oath they took, if they did, and the last time they did the kol Nidre?
[02:47:06] Unknown:
What In other words there's a conflict there? Oh, there is a conflict. No question. If your religion, whatever your religion is, if your religion is not Christianity, then the common law tradition is not your law. If you're you're you have a particular law giver and your response to that law giver is your religion. Whoever your law your final arbiter of right and wrong is could be a statue of of something, like a Buddha or something, all these weird idolatry, could be the sun, the moon, and the stars. Maybe you follow your horoscope every day, and that's your final decider. You put more stock in that than anything else that's called worship. Could be the pope of Rome, could be a rabbi, could be a college professor, could be your own father, could be the Supreme Court of the United States, could be a philosopher like Nietzsche or somebody or Kant or somebody like that. Whatever it is, it could be yourself, living or dead, something, a Ouija board.
Well, that's your final decider. Then that's your religion. You meet, you wanna know what your religion is. You just decide you stop and think about it. Who for me in my life is the final arbiter of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. The court of last resort that gives us the decision and doesn't owe an explanation to anybody. That's arbiter. Well, you decide who that is. You show me your log. That's your law giver. You show me your law giver and I'll show you your God. And I'll also show you your law. You have a different law giver than me. You got, you got a different law, Our common law tradition here in America, the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god is final. You know, interesting. You read William Blackstone. He goes into great detail describing law and describing the sources of our law, which are the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god, our common law, and the Bible.
He goes to great detail defining that. And the nation, where Blackstone gave those lectures in 1765, not a couple of centuries before, there was a king there who came to that same problem. And, he was want to wanting to divorce his wife, an evil thing to do. Couldn't the pope of Rome wouldn't go along with it, and that upset him. And so finally, he was hunting. And when the king was out hunting in those days, back in the fifteen hundreds, and he came by somebody's house to get something to eat, they just well, they'd stop everything, put a spread on for him, you know. And then he did that. He stopped at the fellow's house. They put a big spread on him. And this fella had a a, a tutor there. He was homeschooling his children. He was a pretty wealthy man. He hired this priest, this other Roman priest to homeschool his children. He needed a job. He was brand new priest, young fellow.
And when the King Henry the eighth came by, he was hunting. I had supper dinner or whatever it was. This priest was sitting at the table and he was blowing and going about how the Pope wouldn't let him divorce his wife and all that baloney. And this little, this priest, this young, priest said, well, gee, why are you asking all the priesthood? Why don't you just ask the Bible scholars at Oxford? And he said it very respectfully in passing. Nobody knew he was, he became famous later because Henry the eighth tapped into him again. And the light went on in Henry's head. He said, what? Oh, I never thought of that. Why would I ask Rome when the final authority ought to be the Bible? I mean, he was even thinking that back then people did think those kinds of things. So he went to Oxford and he told the fellows that studied the Bible, said, I want you to come up with the answer. Can I divorce this woman? Now the important point here is whether or not they said he could or couldn't. The important point is that as, the King of England said, I'm gonna take the Bible for the court of last resort.
A result of that as time went on was that Henry broke from Rome and the Bible Protestantism became the religion Anglicanism. The church of England became official. Rome had no more power. They did a great study on the monasteries, found out all the sexual perversion that was going on inside of them, and he shut them all down, every last one of them, all the nunneries, all the monasteries. I mean, Rome was gone. They lost their income. Rome owned a third to a half of all the land in England, and they got all the income from that. And they raised armies, and they're at that time had an army in France getting ready to invade England. He said, well, this is dumb. That's like we're sending money to Al Qaeda. I forget how many billions it was we were sending. And the Supreme Court of the United States said, yeah. You gotta keep sending it. Well, they're raising raising military men to commit acts of terrorism against us. So Trump said, well, I'm cutting that off. You know, I said, dumb, Preston. Mhmm. Respond violence against us. Well, that's what was happening. Well, same thing was happening back then. But the idea came along that the Bible is final. So what Henry finally did was he got to thinking more this he said this the more he thought about it, this is ridiculous. The all the priests all the Roman priests in England have a duty of loyalty to their country, but they take this oath to die for the pope.
That can't be. That's a conflict of loyalty. That's that's watering down. Which which is it? Is it England, or is it the Vatican? Which is it? So we gathered together 200, about 200 of the most prominent priests in England, and he was up on a little high platform in a room where they were crowded in. And he said, well, here's the setup, boys. You took an oath to a foreign power. That's treason. That's treason against the crown of England. Loyalty divided is no loyalty at all. All of you. It made it and say it. He didn't say it, but it was obvious. It was, you felt like you get your heads chopped off. Although he didn't say that. He said that's treason against the crown.
So here's what we're gonna do. You just stay right, put in your jobs. The Pope has no more authority over you. I do. And this is the church of England. Like it says in Magna Carta, the church of England, not the church of Rome, the church of England. I'm the I'm the head now. You boys have two choices. You can object to what I'm doing. Or you can tell me if you want to follow your oath to the Vatican. And if you, and you did take this oath, he's, he added this too. You took the oath. You're guilty of treason. Does anybody have anything to say?
Of course. I mean, if you were in the crowd, would you say anything? Would you jump up and say, here I am. I'm the spokesman here. Nobody said a word. And the people that were there said you could hear a pin drop. He waited a little bit and he said, okay, I will deem silence to be agreement that you're guilty. Here's what I want. And he told how much silver he wanted from each of them. And he knew they were all wealthy as wealthy could be. And, he find them heavily and turn them back loose. And that was the beginning of the church of England, and Protestantism has been the official religion of that country ever since.
And that that's how God works and uses evil men to accomplish I mean, we are separated from the tyranny of Imperial dictatorial religion, namely Rome in America because of Henry the eighth and Henry the eighth, murdered three of his six wives. He was a nasty man. He talked about being wound up and wound up in your own whims and difficulties and no, no confidence. Well, that was Henry the eighth. He was, he was dangerous because he had no confidence as a man. Well, God knew him anyway. And God can you if he can use him, he can use me. But yeah, that loyalty thing is big as a lawyer. The biggest thing in being a lawyer is you can't have divided loyalty.
That's not possible. You You can't have divided loyalty. If that happens, you could get your license suspended or be disbarred if it's discovered, that you're trying to represent two people that have conflicting interests. That's a fact. Well,
[02:55:20] Unknown:
you set you you set up with what you just said. You just set up my next comment just so beautifully because you covered idolatry and idol worship. You covered evil. You covered England. You covered, it was brought to my attention that there are, a couple of KFC commercials for The UK, that are on YouTube. And, they're they're despicable, they're sickening, they're sad, they're blasphemous. They're, funny, but yet not the least bit funny. And, basically, the first commercial is ninety seconds long, and it's a bunch of people kind of doing this, like, kinda warped twisted chicken like dance.
And then the commercial ends with all of these people doing this chicken like dance coming together around this circular platform. And, they begin to idolize a golden chicken, But it's a real chicken. It's a it's a goldish brown chicken. And the the tagline is believe in chicken. And that's not even the worst one. The second one, which is two minutes long, it's number two, it's all of these people in the woods that are that are holding aloft and worshiping a giant golden egg, a giant golden egg. And they're they're lifting it they're lifting it toward the sky, and they're bouncing it on the ground, and and they're all circling around it, and they're they're joyously chanting and everything else. And the culmination of that one is a woman is carrying a guy out into the lake and baptizes the guy in gravy, and he emerges from the lake as a chicken tender.
And the tagline again, believe in chicken.
[02:57:36] Unknown:
That's a 10 an advertisement for a chicken restaurant or something?
[02:57:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Kentucky fried chicken.
[02:57:43] Unknown:
Oh, Kentucky fried. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. That's that's borderline,
[02:57:51] Unknown:
repulsive. Yeah. I agree with you for sure. Yeah. Is it it's well, it's not it's oh, man. It is sacrilege.
[02:57:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Cleaning.
[02:58:02] Unknown:
Yeah. It's not something to play with. And I've I've seen people suffer. Paul the over things like that. Paul the Apostle says some of that have done that and they haven't taken the the Lord's Supper seriously. Some of you are sick, he says, and some of you are dead. Right. Yeah. I don't do that. And I've seen in my life things happen to people, and I can't say for sure, well, God did this because he did that. But what I see is just the sequence. He did this and then this horrible thing. One of the things that I've watched, for example, I've watched people play act death, Play act death in a play or in a some kind of a presentation at school or Mhmm. And, I've seen the most horrible things happen over that. You don't do things like that.
You stay away from that. Just stay away from it. It's God is real, and he reveals himself, and you have to have eyes to see to see it, but he's real and he's dangerous. And he's loving, of course, but he's dangerous. And he can make life miserable in it.
[02:59:05] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:59:06] Unknown:
That's my plan. Words and your intent, can have an effect on the manifestation of your physical life.
[02:59:16] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah.
[02:59:18] Unknown:
Well, your energy, that's where you're gonna be.
[02:59:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That's what worship is. Worship is an old Anglo Saxon word that used to be pronounced worthy ship. What is worthy of your time and money and your attention? Worthy ship. Mhmm. That's what you worship. Now you call it what you want. Oh, I'm not worshiping. Well, are you giving your time, your money, and your attention to it? Well, then you must think it's worthy. Worthy, that's worship. That's what it is. Well, again, thank you all. I I I'm gonna quit. Yeah. I I've been here long enough. Done all the damage I can do. So Thank you, man.
[02:59:57] Unknown:
Hello. This hello. This is Chris. This is Chris. Hey, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I saw, I saw a, an advert a commercial on on a station at a hospital yesterday. And in the commercial, we have these guys kissing each other. These guys should be strung up. And this company is they're promoting some kind of, oh, promoting a drug that helps people with HIV.
[03:00:40] Unknown:
It was Yeah. Sickest
[03:00:42] Unknown:
sickest commercial I've ever seen. Just just absolutely sick.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's repulsive. And that's that's the state of man, that has, gone in what Romans one says is the fag end. The Greek word means the fag end. What's that? That's the final burning piece of a of a piece of wood, and it's just smoking and it's all burnout. That when you see homosexuality, that's what you're looking at according to the Bible. Read Romans chapter one. It gives you the progression of how men or a man or a woman, descends into homosexuality, the pit of human existence. Paul the apostle presents it there. That's not me. Yeah. I'm just referring you to the word of God. I found if I refer people to the word of God and say it's not me, that's not my here's what it says, then that's really where the power is, not me saying it and not people thinking it's my opinion. I've got to point back to that and say I spend my time with the book. I come to these conclusions, and it's important by nature to you. Maybe you know Romans one, maybe you don't, but it's still abhorrent to you because God has put that in us just as as as as sons of Adam.
We know. But to drive it home even further on how it worked, we read the word of God in his particular revelation. He tells us how this comes about and how it happens, and the Bible tells us how it begins. It begins by people looking at the laws of nature and creation around them, God revealing himself to them in the stars and the heavens and in and in the beauty of creation, and then denying it and saying there is no God. That's where it begins according to Paul the Apostle. And then he gives you the next step and the next step and the next step. Then he says, they, now having rejected the maker of all things, they start worshiping, created things instead of the creator himself.
Living in dead statues and idols and trinkets and goofy stuff pictures and and then, then also animals and four footed beast. And like, they do in India, they worship the cow. And then, the woman, then the woman, he says the next step, you can go follow it there. She leaves the natural use of the woman, and she does it at the, encouragement and the okay of the man. That's where it really gets ugly and starts getting uglier after that. The the more that women and men do not distinguish their roles according to God's law, God's standard, the more abuse of women and the more pedophilia and abuse of children we will have, and there's no denying it. It's bigger now than it's ever been, and we've denied the roles more now than we ever have, and that's what will happen. Romans one lays it out in detail how it happens. All All the rest of the Bible also supports Romans one.
That's where Paul takes unbelief, and he takes it there step by step real quick. Go read it. I'll give an assignment. We come back next time, all you folk that are engaged and listening and are talking or both, go read Romans one, read it every day. Romans one every day, every morning when your mind is fresh, won't take you long. Read that chapter every day until we meet again next week. And let's talk about it. And I'm gonna see what you say about it. It's gotta be personal to you. It can't be just listening to me. You know? If it's not personal to you, it's not gonna do your life any good. So you go figure you go figure what you think it means by what it says, and let's talk about it. Maybe that's a good assignment, Paul. You can help us help us maybe remember. I hope we remember it. If people do that, take it to heart. Yeah. And every time you read it memory.
[03:04:13] Unknown:
Who oh, you do it. Memory. It's just really short. This is just really short. It may last until next week, but there's no guarantee.
[03:04:25] Unknown:
I like that. That's me too. Alright. I'm checking out. Can I check out now? Appreciate y'all. Let's do this. Thank you. Appreciate you all, and, let's acknowledge the God that made us real quick. And, short prayers are for public, long prayers are for private, the closet. Let me do a short prayer. Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, and thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, our trespasses in the same way you free or we forgive the trespasses of others again us.
Do not bait us with temptation, but snatch us from the evil one. For thine is the kingdom and the monopoly of raw power and force and the glory and the splendor forever and ever. We ask these things in the authority of your holy son, Jesus the Christ. Amen. Alright. Thank you very much. And, Amen. God's bro. Yeah. God's speed. God's speed till next week.
[03:05:47] Unknown:
Amen, Brian. Thank you. Bye. Thank you.
[03:05:50] Unknown:
Bye. Amen. Thank you.
[03:05:54] Unknown:
Alright. And that is it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and cohost Brent Winters. Happens every Friday right here on eurofoolkradio.com and Global Voice Radio Network, also on radiosoapbox.com and a plethora of other platforms. For more information on the topics discussed, go to the matrixdocs.com. You will also find links to free conference calls, and you can join us live on the show and ask, mister Winters, or mister Sales' questions. Make comments, or just listen. Sandbag for a while. Back at lunch. Stay the day. Thanks for catching us.
Catch us right back here tomorrow for the Sabado edition from 11AM to 1PM eastern on radiodots. Global Voice Radio Net and EuroFolkRadio.com. Thanks so much. We'll catch you right back here next time. Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network. Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
[03:07:13] Unknown:
Nice. I was trying to, get a birth certificate authenticated, and the lady said, oh, what nation do you want it for? I said, The United States. Oh, we don't do those. So I don't know if anybody's gotten their birth certificate authenticated by their state, by the state where, birth certificate the certificate of live birth was issued from, or if it's even necessary. But, was there anything that you wrote to do that? Or please advise.
[03:07:54] Unknown:
I have a comment. Your reply might have been the nation and where I was born, not the state of, but the state. That's all I got.
[03:08:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Because, I mean, yeah, they're federal basically, they're they're authenticating something that's federalized. Right? The birth certificate in federal instruments. That's why I said United States and not United States Of America, but they're so used to foreign country, you know, apostilles and and, depending if it's Hague or not and often, authentication that I'm not sure that maybe I just have to elevate it, you know, on their customer service. But
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[00:01:38] Unknown:
Yep. Changing the world's what we're all about here at the Radio Ranch, and we're gonna take another stab at it right here on this Friday edition. It's Friday, and, of course, that means, usually, Brent, Winters, my cohost on Fridays. We've elevated him many years ago. And he's pretty predictable that he likes to come in here at the last minute or slightly after the last minute, which appears it'll be the case today. Anyway, it is the March 28, and, we are the radio ranch with Roger Sales. And, we are assisted by a number of other platforms, and we, we asked Paul Beaner to step in and identify them and so that we can recognize them for their efforts and to give them proper credit. So, Paul, if you would, please.
[00:02:30] Unknown:
Actually, it's a very, very light day today. We have Oh, yes. Radiosoapbox.com joining us. Thanks to Paul across the drink. We have eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network, a pet project of mine, and free conference call. And a bunch of people in here waiting for us, hanging on every word, no doubt. The Matrix Docs is our website, and the links to free conference call, Global Voice Radio and EuroFolk are right there on that website. Or you can go to radiosoapbox.com and tune us in. Yeah.
[00:03:13] Unknown:
Cool. Did you happen to do the show with Paul yesterday?
[00:03:19] Unknown:
No. Paul did not do a show yesterday. He pushed it off to, I believe, April 3 or something like that. He's still wrapping up some things.
[00:03:28] Unknown:
Sure. Okay. Well, sorry to hear he's having to go through all that, but it's part of life. So, anyway, we'll no doubt inform you all as to that in one of these days. But, we're waiting on Brent. Let's see. So Francine's
[00:03:50] Unknown:
not here. That's two weeks in a row. That's pretty unusual. We don't see the lovely
[00:03:55] Unknown:
Francine up there.
[00:03:57] Unknown:
Roger.
[00:03:58] Unknown:
Well, there's the lovely Joan, so we'll just have her take her place. Yes, ma'am.
[00:04:04] Unknown:
Regarding that female yesterday that that God is, all love and loves everybody, and you said you were gonna ask Grant. I just want to remind you that, I don't know how long ago it was six months or a year ago. Brent said someone was asking about God loving everybody. And I think Brent said something. And you can ask him because you said yesterday you might would ask him. But I think he said like John three sixteen, God so loved the world that he gave his only son. And Brent pointed out that love was in past tense and, like, it was that love was only mentioned once in the bible or something like that, and it was in the past tense.
[00:04:53] Unknown:
So Well, I don't know, Joan. I don't remember. Obviously, you've got some, sketchy memories of it. But guess what? The good news is Brent has just showed up, and, you can, ask the man himself.
[00:05:07] Unknown:
Well, you were gonna ask him. So,
[00:05:09] Unknown:
Well, I can do that too. I mean, it's just this is your morning, Brent.
[00:05:14] Unknown:
Hi, Rob. Sorry. I heard what We already got the fire stoked up for you here, man. Yeah. I got I heard what you said, and, that's an important question. If you look in the New Testament, you'll find that there is no place. Matter of fact, probably the whole Bible in that well, yeah, you could say the whole Bible. Let's just pick the New Testament for now. There's no place where the Bible says that God loves, present tense. Anybody. He does the Bible does say, John three sixteen, the most famous text, God loved, and that's in the past tense. Well, it's in the what they call the Greek heiress. It's a snapshot of what happened instead of a moving picture. That's the way people describe the heiress verb.
But in all of the New Testament, the love of God is summarized, culminated in the person of Jesus Christ, period. And by all of his work and all of his sacrifice in his death, giving himself up to be murdered as a sacrifice, and then in his as a lie his ascent his resurrection and his ascension, that is the definition the ultimate definition of God's love for his people. That's it. And how people feel about it, I've been even how he felt about it isn't relevant. He may have felt affection about it at different points, but the point is he did the thing that he would rather not have done. The thing that was abhorrent, the thing that was difficult, the thing that was repulsive, he did it. And there are a lot of people in the world that demonstrate the love of God by doing the thing that they, like some people say, they'd really rather not do, and they feel no affection for the people they're helping. They just know it's the right thing to do even though the people they're helping are repulsive and loathsome and dirty and mean and all those kind of things. But you still should do. If you do toward every toward those kind of foe, what the Bible commands that you do, that is the definition of the love of God. But on the other hand, most people don't have a clue what the Bible says to do, and they go on their gut feeling about that too, and they don't really look at the Bible. They just think, well, that's a this is a nice thing to do, or that's a nice thing to do, and that may be and probably is the opposite of what God wants you to do. It's been my discovery in life that for what it's worth, this is a personal experiential testimony.
Most times, what I think or what somebody else thinks is the right thing to do. When we go examine the will of God, we discover it's not. Even though we feel like it or just seems like it. But maybe something kinda like it, but the Bible puts the God's will, the record of his will, the Bible, puts another twist on things, but it's just a kilter to what sinful, wrong headed man would think. That's what I noticed about the Bible. Say, wait a minute. I get what he's saying here, and it's just a little bit different than what is popularly thought or what you would normally think would be the right thing in any given instance.
And for this reason, of course, we have analogized it in the past to the man that gets his instrument rating. He learns how to fly by the seat of his pants like my father did after he got back in the war. He learned how to fly an airplane, and he just did it by dead reckoning. You look at the ground and kinda know where you are, and you gotta stick between your legs, and you'd move around a little bit. And, but then you can graduate, which he never did. He quit that. He was working in the oil field and couldn't make any money spending money on flying lessons. It's just something he wanted to do. And, of course, when men got back from the war, they had the GI Bill. And one of the things the GI Bill provided for a lot of World War two veterans was learn how to fly, and a lot of them did, frankly. Yeah.
Yeah. And that was very popular. And their little airport that was, there outside of town that got put in. Old Curran Patchett put in an airport, invested in a runway, started a crop dusting service, and then he made good money teaching, young boys how to fly. Well, but there comes a point where you can become instrument rated with your flying. And once your instrument rated, then you learn not to trust your senses anymore. You don't trust your eyes. You don't trust your feeling of upside down and right side up. You learn to trust what you're looking at on the instrument board.
Because the truth is that as strong as our our logic and our senses is, we're mortal and it can be thrown off real easy. You can think and when you're flying, I've had flyers tell me this. You can think you're right side up in some circumstances, and you're actually upside down. Mhmm. And if you don't trust your instruments and if you trust your your sense of of direction right upside down and right side up in your ears, and that's where that is maintained, that sense of rightness, you could die real easy. Yep. So you learn to trust the instruments. And that's the way it is with God.
You don't trust yourself. No. You trust him, and you trust what he says. And whenever the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket and saying they're right, as happened with COVID, don't tell me it can't happen. It happened. The whole world believed that stupidity. And the whole world took the jab. Oh, the whole world, not just the country. And those of us that had a sense of what God was saying, for whatever reason, we'd looked at the Bible, and we it it does increase your mental ability, by the way, in a lot of ways. Yeah. The spirit of God
[00:11:09] Unknown:
enhances your mind. Go ahead, Roger. I was just gonna say anytime these guys are giving you something for free, there's a hook in it.
[00:11:17] Unknown:
Well, the Bible well, the sense the Bible gives you, it gives you a right headedness. Not only in particular instances, but you just it it point points your nose in the right direction. You're going down this certain path. And if somebody brings some baloney to you, yeah, you woah, wait a minute. That doesn't look right. You'll see it. Don't tell me that people, intelligent people, that I have known when that all happened, they took it hook, line, and sinker, and I asked myself, why? I've known you for decades. You've never been like this because they are it's a as and this is the word that you have used in years past on this show, Roger, the grand delusion.
Yeah. The delusion. And you've talked you've talked about, the love of the lie. The delusion will make you love the lie. And the Bible says that delusion is the tool of the devil, and he can delude anybody. Don't tell me. No. Even the smartest and the most even the most biblical of men can be deluded. You must be, as the Bible says, sober on your guard and bury your head in the Bible. Bury your head you know, bury your brain in the Bible. Soak it in the scriptures. Put it down in mental sod, and then it's there, and it does just affects your whole being, body, soul, and spirit. The word of God affects it all in ways you can't comprehend.
It's not a matter of do this and don't do that, and the Bible says this here. That's true. But once you get a fullness of the sense of God's word and the sweep and the flow of who he is, that at that point, you no longer know about God. You know him because you know his will, and you have a sense of the direction that he takes you. You've got the big picture. That's called discernment, by the way. And the Bible makes it clear that God has given an extra dose of that to the male of the species. And I don't try to explain that. I just know the Bible's clear on that point. It's not one of those places in the Bible we say, well, what does this mean? And then try to interpret it by using other scriptures in this in these cases I'm speaking of, this is the straightforward, unambiguous statement of the Bible on these points.
And to understand our strength, I'm and I speak mostly when I talk. I make a point of talking to men. Oh, I like the ladies to listen, and I appreciate all of them. I love them. I wouldn't be here without them. I wouldn't be what I am without them. I wouldn't have the advantages that I if I have any that if it wasn't for the the female of the species. I understand that. But at the same time, it's the men in our nation, in any nation that are the problem, not the women. And the reason the men are the problem, god says they're the problem, is because they're the ones that have the tool of discernment in a special way, and they're not using that. They're not using it. That's the problem. Well, how do you, man, how do you increase your ability to of discernment?
Again, Joshua chapter one verses eight and nine, God said to the commander of the militia, the 12 tribes of Israel, Five Hundred well over 600,000 of them, 601,000 approximately. They were getting ready to cross the Jordan River from the East to the West to march across and conquer, divide the land of Canaan in half, and then conquer the whole thing, which they did. And God said to Joshua, on the eve of that endeavor, said, you chew. You get the word of God in your system, and you chew it like cud day and night. It is in the forefront of your thinking at all times. The first thing you repair to, you never stop thinking about it. And if you do that, then no matter where your foot treads, you'll conquer.
Do you think things are any different today? We have a land. What no. It isn't. We have a land. The lord our god has given us. What are we supposed to do? God's remnant, god's leftovers to put it in the English are tasked with conquering the land. Wherever you are, friends, you're to conquer it. How do you do that? Well, you don't have to worry about much. All you gotta worry about doing is keeping your your brain bibbling with the biblical mandates to understand the sweep and flow. You can't do it unless you spend time with it, though. And we're talking a little bit about it here now, and most Fridays we do a lot of that. Not sometimes we do, sometimes we don't, but you get a little here. It needs to be what we think about, what we talk about.
What's the most important thing in your life? Well, it should be your father. You live in his presence twenty four seven. Can you imagine growing up in a house? I've seen this happen, and I've learned this lesson when I was young. I'll tell you how it happened. I think I've told the story here, but it had to do with pain and it had to do with getting slugged in the mouth. And my mother did it. I was talking to her about it the other day. We talk about that particular event a lot. And, I said, she gets mad at me, and I say, well, mom, the trouble is that all I can do is blame you. You had the means to fix things. You did some, but you just didn't do it enough. That's what I tell her. Boy, that makes her mad. But, yeah, she's 97 years old, and she didn't want I don't live off to her. I say with all due respect, of course. Of course.
Yeah. But, that can you imagine living in in a house as a child growing up, and maybe it can it does get this way sometime. And, you don't speak to your parents for five days straight. Don't acknowledge their presence. You don't talk to them. You come. You sleep in your bed. You eat. You never talk to mom and dad. Oh, that happens a lot. One time I was getting ready to go to town. I I was 16, and that means we had one car. Remember that, Roger? Every family had a car. Yeah. One. And if you were fortunate, you get the car keys, and you get to go to town. And it was my turn to go to town, take the car. It was an '88 Oldsmobile. I didn't have a had a Chevy. It was a before that, a green 5053, I believe it was.
Then we got the '88, and I was going I was 16, and I was all ready to go to town. I don't know what it was, some kind of event of some kind. They had all sorts of stuff going on in the summertime, July 4 or something. And, of course, all my friends would be there, and I was concentrating on getting there. I wasn't concentrating on mistreating my mother at all. You know? I'm just concentrating on getting my clothes on and coming downstairs and getting in the car and in the town. I was excited about it, and my mind was focused on it. And my mother I don't even know this, but she says she said something to me. Something nice. Like, well, where are you going? Or who are you gonna meet? Or it's something like that. I don't know because I didn't hear it. Oh, she said it. I'm satisfied. Probably said it more than once, and I didn't even I wasn't tuned in to her at all. And all she wanted was a kind response.
So I ran upstairs, and I lived in an old two story farmhouse built in 1910. One of those frame houses, two stories, everything was built up because the heat, you know, small this way and low ceilings downstairs and vents in the floor that so right under the wood stove so the heat could go up through the vent and up into the room upstairs. I went upstairs to get something, narrow stairway, very steep, almost a ladder, you know, those old houses. And there was an unwritten rule that, whoever put their foot on the step first, if somebody else was wanting to go upstairs or down, whoever put their foot on the step first had the right of way.
Nobody ever said that. We just did that in time my little boy. And, there wasn't room really to pass each other, so you just waited for the other person, us boys, and mom and dad. And, I put my foot on the step, started down. I was in a hurry, and just as I got about a third of the way down, here come mom up the stairs. Boy, that threw me off. It just didn't seem right. We didn't do that. You know? That's like that's like putting the dipper back in the water bucket after you get a drink and let it sink to the bottom. That's just something we never did. You know? If you did, you were there was something wrong with you. You take the dipper and you set it on top of the water and it just floats there. See? Well, that was this kind of a unwritten rule too. And, I thought, what's this all about? So I she's my mother.
I'm I'll give her the right away, obviously. She's walking slow and deliberately up the stairs. So I just backed up against one side of the stairs over the wall on both sides to try to let her by, and she shortened me. I was full grown at that 16. I reached full height. And, well, per near. I was up there. And, and she was smaller than me, and she's a fine boned woman. Her side of the family was built that way. Well, except the McKinsey's. They were pretty. But she didn't get that. She got she was fine boned, and so she never had the ability to make a whipping really hurt. And we'd scream and holler just to get her to stop, but real only reason we did that was to make her think it hurt so she'd stop. You know? And and then she'd grab us and whatever she'd get handy, she'd start wailing on us while she was coming up the stairs. I was too big to have my fanny fanned. And she got up the stairs up she got her feet on steps above mine, so she had to get level with me. And she just staring at me right in the face. And I looking at her, and all of a sudden, kawam.
And she nailed me. She you know, a girl a girl a girl has two choices. She'll she can slap with her open palm. Yes. And or she can she can't well, girls normally don't make a fist, but she'll kinda pull her tips of her fingers into her palm and then just hit you flat handed like that. You know? Well, that's what she did. That was the way she made a fist, and she nailed me. I'd been hitting the jaw before at school. My other boys, old Frankie Ferguson, he had a habit of doing that. He'd come out of nowhere. He wouldn't even warn you. Just he'd get mad at you, and you wouldn't even know why he's mad and wham. He'd bring one up under your jaw. Well, your whole jaw goes numb if you've not had that happen to you. That's especially on that one side, and it just kinda stuns you. You know? Yeah. Well, that's what she did to me. She came up low. She didn't try to injure me, but she wanted to she wanted me to know I'd been slugged, and she slugged me. And I couldn't process it. Wham. You know?
And I I just stood there a minute, and she she stare kept staring at me. And I just slowly turned and walked downstairs, and I I didn't know what to say or do. And I went outside and got in the car and and left because I couldn't understand what she had done. Well, the reason she had done that was simply because I didn't respond to her. That's all. And all she wanted was a a response of some kind. And it's absolutely ugly and evil that we don't respond to our father in heaven. He he keeps us every day. He feeds us, and he sends all sorts of signals and communications to us, not to mention the Bible. And all he wants is a kind response.
Every time we come on the air, we don't do that here, Roger, but on the other programs I own I'm on, I always in the beginning, and if I forget, miss Francine reminds me, Brent, you didn't pray. But what I like to say is I don't I sometimes I say pray. It is prayer, but I just say, let's stop and acknowledge. Like, I was supposed to acknowledge my mother. Let's stop and acknowledge the god that made us. Mhmm. That's all. Just acknowledge his presence. He wants to just like when you were a kid at home, you need to get up in the morning and your mother said hello or good morning. You good morning, mom. You know, just that kind of thing. There isn't that kind of thing going on. We're living like a bunch of blasted animals, heathens.
It's not acceptable to not acknowledge other people.
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And then foremost, your parents, of course, and foremost, your your maker. Go ahead, Roger. Well, here's an acknowledgment. Miss Francine joins us. I was talking earlier how she wasn't here. We haven't seen her in a couple weeks. So Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back, Francine.
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Thank you, Roger.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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We'd like to have her. She's Go ahead.
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Go ahead. Go ahead. Brent, is, is everyone supposed to love everyone, Even the people that, murder and deceive and lie over and over and over? Are are are are are we are people supposed to love are Christians supposed to love everybody?
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Is that a Well, let me ask you. If if if God Well, let me let me let me ask you a question. And it and you're you you are kind to bring things up, and you do it often. But I have never asked you a question, but I want to ask you one now. I want you to give me what you your definition, what you think, and I won't castigate you for it. I'll just talk about the Bible. But what do you think love is? How would you define it?
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Caring for someone, caring for others.
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Uh-huh. But what about fine. Uh-huh.
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Oh, what about when you care for somebody and you whip their butt because they need to learn the lesson and you're giving them what's called tough love? How about that, Joan?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Wait. What about what about my mother? What about my mother when she walloped me? I'd like to knock me flattered and Right
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right then and there, I would have said, mama, why did you do that?
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Yeah. But, but I'm asking you a question. Was that love when she did that? It was my mother loving me. My was my mother loving me when she walloped me?
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I might I if I was your mom and I I would have found a different way to love you, then maybe dislocate your jaw.
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Okay. Have you have you, raised boys?
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No. Ah.
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Well, just just I mean, that's the sovereignty of God, the sovereignty of God, but, like I said before, men are the problem. Men are the ultimate problem in every country. Women are a problem. Oh, yeah. They're sinners too, but men are the ultimate problem. And I know for a fact what it takes, the heart, the Bible says, Jeremiah, the prophet, the heart desire of man is desperately wicked. Who can know it? And he also says that all of our personal righteousness is like bloody menstrual rags. That's what that that's what the Hebrew text says. It's not translated that way, but let's be let's be raw about it. That's what it says. Jesus Christ quoting the Old Testament, Paul Paul quoting the Old Testament rather. Jesus Christ said the same thing, but I wanna quote Paul first. He said, there is none good no man good.
No. Not one. That's a quote. And they have all gone out of the way. Their mouth is an open their throat is an open sepulcher full of dead men's bones. They're the poison of asps is under their lips. Well, under whose lips? Lips of men and women. And so you're dealing with a you're dealing with a tough bunch. Who is it? It's us. It's us. We're a tough bunch. We're hard cases. We're bound for hell. And Jesus Christ saves us from hell, and then he whips us into condition. I think my mother was tough on me. That was nothing what God's done to me. He takes me to the cleaner.
He, takes me out behind the woodshed, operation woodshed, and he teaches me what he wants me to know. The Bible says in Hebrews, despise not the chastening of the Lord. What is the chastening? That's an old word that means to purify, and that means to be beaten. That's what that means. Despise not the beatings of the Lord. Why? Because it's for your good, and he's saving your soul from hell. He does it. I don't do it. Tough love. Tough. Yeah. We call it tough love, but love, that's really what what is love? The Bible defines love. I'll that's you ask ask you for a definition. I'll give you the Bible's definition. It's clear. It's plain. It's straightforward, and it's unambiguous. First John, this is the love of god, comma, that we keep his commandments.
That's it. Keep his commandments toward other people toward other people. There's our all all of our our, our common law tradition, which includes the Bible as the final court of last resort, all of our common law tradition is based upon relationships. All of our common law, that means all of the law of the land, to use another name for it, is based on relationships. The relationship that that that you have, the kind of relationship with another person defines what body, what what law, what commandments, what standards apply to that relationship. My, father son relationship, son mother relationship, There's a different set of standards that apply to that, that apply to, a trustor, trustee relationship, a common law, or a bailor, bailee, or a promissor, promisee, in a contract case. There's a body of law that applies to that that's different than the the marriage relationship is not a contract relationship. No. No.
So there's a different body of law, a different set of standards. The marriage relationship, for example, is fiduciary. I mean, intensely fiduciary. The the persons in the relationship, the god's law requires that each one of them, look after their spouse more than they look after themselves. That's, a a fiduciary. In a contract relationship, you're not required you're required to look after yourself only. Very interesting. And an agency relationship is a fiduciary, but in a different way. But on and on it goes. Roger, you're gonna say something? No. I said that was very interesting, that splitting of hairs there. Yeah. And and I haven't split very many. I mean, it gets more split than that if you wanna follow the Bible and learn about it. But the bottom line is do what the law of God says to do to the fella in the particular relationship you're in. What about employer employee? Is that does the Bible cover that? You bet it does in spades.
How you spoke the loyalty that you owe, a duty of loyalty you owe to the man that pays you to do what you do if you're working for him. You know, they used to say in America, when you get paid by the man, you ride for his brand. You don't let other people steal his cattle. Mhmm. That's a a theme, of course, in the old westerns and but it's part of American it's part of our common law tradition. You know, the two kinds of treason, the common law. There's grand treason. That's treason against the sovereign, whether it be the sovereign, your your country, or god himself. But the practical matters, treat, disloyalty or to your disloyalty to your country is treason.
Disloyalty at common law to your employer with whom whom you have a contract relationship called master servant at common law, or you could say employer employee in modern but that requires loyalty, and to be disloyal to your employer is treason. I wish I wish we would resurrect those old laws of loyalty, and they would be in the forefront of our head because that's what holds us together and makes us strong is loyalty, knowing where loyalty should apply. We have, a judge on the bench. He is the first Islamic federal judge ever appointed.
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Biden appoint pointed him. Just one of the DC crowd?
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Yeah. He was a he's a he's a a citizen of Canada and, claiming to be a citizen of The United States. He's the one that told Trump to turn that plane around, bring it back, and all that belonging.
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What's what's his name?
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The last name. Google or something? Yeah. Well, he's a citizen of born in Canada. I assume he's a citizen of Canada. He's worked up there in the courts. But let's just say he's he's Canadian. His family immigrated, from the other side of the world to Canada, and then he came down here and he's a federal judge. And, loyalty is not divisible, not even a little bit. Mhmm. As we say at common law, divided loyalty is no loyalty at all. And loyalty is what holds our common law together. Loyalty is what holds Christianity together. To be loyal to like kindred spirits is the foundation of the Christian life. Now notice I didn't say it's the foundation of salvation. You're is not something you do. That's something God does for his own reasons.
But to enjoy your salvation without knowing what it is God wants you to do won't happen. You won't enjoy it. It'll be drudgery. You may go to you may, not go to hell when this life is over, but you've been saved from hell, but enjoying what god has for you because you don't understand your trust or set lower beneficiary relationship to your and your your relationship to your maker is set and beneficiary. And there's a body of law that applies to that relationship. We're right now in the final parts of the law course at Winter's Inn on Christian nationhood.
And, we, we're getting right down to where we're we're going into the the nature of the relationship that people in a Christian nation have with their god. And it's a it's a beneficiary settler relationship. And the natural enforcers of that relationship, of a trust relationship at common law, according to our common law, are the beneficiaries. That's there isn't anybody else. They're the ones that stand to gain and lose, and that's the they're the natural enforcers. And that's what it is here with our our relationship with God. We are to enforce, as his people, of his trust settlement.
That's a different relationship. So to know what loyalty is to, our maker, vertically and then horizontally horizontally to our fellow man, The Bible and the laws of nature are common law tradition, observes these. They're out here. Do you know what they are? Are you enjoying life, really? Well, if you aren't, then it's time you started. And that's why John says in first John, I write these things to you. In the beginning, he says, I write this book. I write these things to you that your joy may be having already been fulfilled.
God has done all that it possible to do. No more can be added to it that you would have joy, that you would have gladness, that you would be have a positive attitude. He's done that. He did it in the past. That's why God so loved. Oh, what does his love do? It was you that opportunity to have enjoyment out of life. Let's go to the Westminster confession. You know, by way back there in England, parliament, the Puritans controlled parliament. It was a political party, and they won the war against the crown. And so they, said, okay. We're in charge now. The king's not in charge.
And so, we gotta pass the law, but we want don't want to, contradict the Bible. So a subpoena, a subpoena to all the individual individuals in Scotland and England, Puritans and Presbyterians, in other words, and said, we want you to assemble under pain of penalty to bring your carcasses down here to Westminster. And we got a list of questions that we're gonna submit to you, and we want biblical answers. You understand? And they all showed up. Yeah. And they they did a lot of work there at Westminster as answering all the questions that parliament submitted to them so that parliament would know or have a a strong opinion anyway about, where the boundaries are in the Bible. They didn't want their legislation to exceed the boundaries.
And so they did that. And they were there for a long time, the men at Westminster Westminster. That was in the sixteen forties. And they answered those questions about what what what what parliament had asked them. And parliament wanted to stay within the bounds of the word of God. That's what that was and not exceed it. Why? Well, so their joy could be full and the country's joy could be full. My friends, we will not have joy without, the revelation of God's will that he's given to us and without knowing it. You're thumping your Bible and say, how you believe the Bible? Do you have a clue what's in it? Well, I'm just asking. I know I don't know what I need to know, Roger. I'm still working on that. Go ahead. Wasn't wasn't too much joy over the last four years.
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That's I can remember.
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No. And the Bible says that too. And, the wicked rule, men hide themselves. You know, they don't have any joy in their lives. It's true. That's a a law of nature. It's out there. But what do we do, my friends? If we will know this book, God promises us, We give attention to his will. We acknowledge him by saying we wanna know what our God is like, who he is, and want to know our father. I don't know about it. We don't wanna know about it. No way. How do you know it? How do I know my father? Listen. I know what my I know what my father liked. One moment, please. I'll finish. I know what my father my earthly father like. Like, I've said before, he'll be 99 this summer. I know what he likes, and I've learned over the years what he likes. And the more I know what he and what he dislikes, in other words, his will, what he wants.
I don't know about him, and I have known him very well, and I'm still getting to know him. Well, that's the way it is with our father in heaven. Know his will. Somebody said something. Go ahead. I was that Linda?
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Lady, lady. Yeah. Some lady. Yeah. When you ask when you ask Joan what is love, love is patient. Love is kind. It is not it is not envy. It is not boastful. It is not proud. It does not dishonor others. It is not self seeking. It is not easily angered. It keeps no records of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease. Where there are tongues, they will be stilled. Where there is knowledge, it will pass away. We know in part, and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what in is in part disappears.
When I was a child, I talked like a child. I thought like a child. I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put away childhood things. So now we see only of reflection, as in a mirror, then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part, then I shall fully know, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain faith, hope, and love, but the greatest of these is love. I yield.
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Okay. Brent, let me tell you what brought this up today. Go ahead. Yesterday, we were talking, and I it's something I've been at least repeating in this vernacular for a long time is that in Genesis and then repeated in the New Testament, it depends on the translation, I guess. Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated. Uh-huh. Now That they wanted me because they said that it that's not a literal translation. I said, well, let's ask Brent. But because it goes back if you go back to Revelation 18, you know, come out of where my people come out of where and then and then what I call the remedy verses there, the serve her double, what she served to you. Well, he's not saying I'm gonna do that. Somebody else is supposed to do that, and I believe that's the remnant. That's the conclusion I've come to over all these years. So that's what kinda started Joan's question, and there was that little bit of a discussion yesterday.
So could you go into that a little bit for more for us? Is that an accurate translation?
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Well, you well, certainly.
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It is. Yes. And then Okay. So Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated is an accurate translation.
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Correct. Yeah. As a kid, they wanna Hey, myrrh. Listen up. Paul Paul the apostle repeats it in Romans chapter nine verse 13. Here he quotes that verse making a point about the election of God. The election of election, that's not a translation of a word. That's the Greek word, eklectos. We don't I don't know why people don't translate it. What it means is to choose one and over another. That's what it means. Mhmm. We have papyri from the centuries just before the time of Jesus Christ and just after, discovered in places like Egypt where it's so dry that things don't rot and the papyri, last a long time, And we find it in the trash dumps and heaps. We find grocery lists, contra even scraps of the bible, scraps of other writings, letters, and we learn, looking at those how the word was used at that time.
And we have papyri maps from the around the first century of grocery list or one letter that a lady wrote to another saying she went to market that day, and she picked out certain fruit or watermelons or something. I forget what it was. Picked it out from others and used that word. Well, what does it mean? It means to pick, you know, how you watch ladies and men ladies, they'll pick up fruit, feel it, the watermelon, see if they got a lot of water in them, make certain Lump it. Down, and they pick the Yeah. They pick out the one ounce that they want. That's a Hold on, Sherry, please. Out from among others. And the gods God says in God says in Romans nine, it well, the whole section. He breaks it down and he tells us all that God has revealed to us that may be known, that he's willing to reveal about the election of God, choosing a nurse. When I say our founders, I mean the people that settled America. Our first fathers, they believed it with a pink passion, these doctrines that Rome had denied for so many centuries.
And Rome well, the reason if you if you're willing to say or deny the doctrine of elect whatever you think it means, you have the ability to make a lot of money. If a preacher stands up and says, Jacob, I have loved. Esau, I have hated. And then applies that on as the Bible does to God choosing men now out from among the dying or the dead really of the world. If you if you say that you people won't pay you money to say that you've got to say something else. You've got to say things like God loves everybody. Does God love everybody? No, he doesn't. Yeah. No, he doesn't. How do I know that? How do I know that? Because the Bible says that, and it's not a matter again, some ambiguous passages. It's all over the Bible. The people that came to held to that doctrine, as Winston Churchill said, that the most biblical race of men that ever lived were the Puritans of England.
They went away because they fell out of they fell out of, well, that's history. I'll but at the time they came here, they were biblical. And this the Presbyterians from Scotland were as biblical or more so. And all they said is, look. We don't want to try to explain it. If the Bible says it point blank, we gotta deal with it. And there's no sense trying to explain it away. Rationalize
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around it. Goes in They try and rationalize around it to get there a point.
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And most all of Christendom does that. I'm I'm, old enough. I'm I'm not willing to think stupid enough to think. I'll persuade everybody. But I'll tell you what, I do know that the re that point of view is is experiencing a grand resurgence all over the English speaking world. It's called reformed Christianity. That's traditionally what it's called. Some people call it Calvinism just because Calvin was one of of that held that position, but it's not Calvinism. It's just the Bible. And, somebody
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Rogers Who was Sherry? Sherry was, asking to be recognized. Sherry?
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Yes. Thank you. So, really, it's a preference is what Brynn has described, which could also go to the word discrimination, but more importantly, the principle of the separation of the sheep from the goats.
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The wheat from the tares.
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Mhmm. Yeah. The wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats. So it's all over the Bible, and it's explained and illustrated, but there's no basis. It just said clear and point blank. And the question then becomes, what are you gonna do with it? You either accept it or reject it. Jesus Christ put it this way. You did not choose me. I chose you. That's what he said. And he said the reason the world you and the world does hate Christian people. Of course. Look at I can
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well, anyway, he said the reason They're massacring them over they're massacring them today over in what used to be Syria.
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The reason the world hates you is because me, said Jesus Christ, and they hate you because I, says Jesus Christ, have eklectos chosen you out of see, there's the out of out from among others, out of the world. That's fundamental. Janity. Without that, Christianity does not exist. If God loves everybody, then he doesn't love anybody. As we say at common law Yep. If, well, we say it just that way about in property rights. We say what belongs to everybody belongs to nobody. Same thing. What belongs to everybody belongs to nobody. Mhmm. Same kind of an idea. No. There's an exclusive exclusivity to this. I don't understand it because I don't know the mind of God. I am not God, but it's my job as best as I can do it to tell people what the Bible says. And I'm supposed to devote my time to do that, and I do as much as I can.
I don't know everything, and I'm learning more all the time. But at the jump from the very beginning, Malachi chapter one through four and Revelation chapter two and or 22 and and, he or Romans chapter nine nine thirteen, as it is written, Paul says, as it is written, that means I'm quoting the Old Testament, Jacob, I have loved Esau, I have hated. Then he took it down. You see, Jacob and Esau were unidentical twins in the womb at the same time. And when God said that, he said it before they were born. So he we cannot rightfully say that, well, he loved Jacob because Jacob, was a better boy. He he was he loved God more or he did what God want. No. He no. He he chose Jacob, before he had a chance to do right or wrong.
And the Bible says in Romans that he chose his people, now us, before the foundation of the world. He's the God that lives outside of time, and his choices are eternal. They never change, and they're made before the world began. The covenant of God was established. God there was never was a time. God did not know all that could be known. There was never a time anybody could teach God anything. God will never be surprised when we get in glory and we're with him and, and he'll look at somebody and say, good gravy. I didn't think you'd ever wind up here. No, that's not gonna happen. He knows He's the one that makes it happen.
He's the one that makes all things happen. As a matter of fact, his name, Yahoah, is a simple verb in the Hebrew text, and it means he happens. He's the happening one. He's the one that makes all things happen, and nobody calls his hand, and he never changes his mind, from his decisions. It says in Romans third I believe it's 13. He says, god he's the same yesterday, today, and forever. And the gifts and callings of god are without repentance. Repentance. What's repentance? That's the Greek word in the New Testament, metanoia. Meta means change, like metamorphosis means change of shape and an insect or something.
And, metanoia means mind. Metanoia, change of mind, repentance. What changes your mind? What changes your mind about things? God does. You don't. You couldn't. It's not even possible. You're dead. If you're not a Christian man or woman, you're dead in trespasses and sins. That's a quote from the Bible. You're dead, and so you can't respond to anything. You can't make any choices, and all the choices you think you'd be making while while you're the walking dead, spiritually dead, That's do you think you're making all of them will just be for something less than God's will? Even if you do the things that are right, you're doing them for the wrong reason, and that's offensive to God too. So God saves men. He doesn't save drowning men.
No. He saves men that are or he drowned it, and they're at the bottom of the ocean. And they're all laying down there dead, and he grabs some out. Now is there something unjust about that? No. The the the amazing thing about all that is not that people say, why doesn't he save everybody? Well, that's not the question. The question is, why in the world would he save anybody Anybody. Given who we are? You know? Isn't it odd I I like this. I don't know who wrote it, but I'm quoting it. Isn't it odd that a being like God who sees the facade could still love the clod that he fashioned from sod.
Yes. Yes. Tis odd. I don't know who said it, but it was well said. It was. Isn't it odd? That's the question why. Well, he he he loved us when we were unlovable, the Paul says in Romans. We were abhorrent to him, but he loved us in what he did not because he felt affection for us. He didn't. He couldn't have. We were loathsome to him, repulsive. But he took us, it says, takes us out of the sewage the sewage. He cleans us up, bores us down, dries us off, and then he starts the process of discipline. That's the way it works. Don't believe these fellows that say God would never do that to his children. No. No. The Bible promises God will do that to his children. He will discipline them. He's not messing around. It's serious business. And if you don't respond, he'll just kill you and take you home.
That too. So don't play with him. My strong suggestion is you you wanna enjoy life? Just acknowledge the god that make you. I know you're ignorant. I know I'm ignorant, but what can we do? We can show respect and acknowledge him like I was supposed to do with my mother when she was talking to me. I didn't know what she wanted. I don't even know what she said. I'd I should ask her that. I've never asked her. What was it you said to me, mother? You're kidding. I should know. I'm thinking about it now. I'm saying, oh, you know, you're so focused on the the prompt. She got the point across. The point was I show some respect. Boss.
Yeah. Well, I'm the boss, but more than get that, Roger. She wasn't wanting me to command. She was wanting me to acknowledge her. Mhmm. You know, I walk in the courtroom. I walk in the court. We had this big trial one time, and every come in, we'd be sitting there. Of course, the judge would come in after the jury. This particular judge, by the way, Roger, no. The jury no. The judge would come in and sit down at the bench. Uh-huh. And then the jury would come in File in. And the judge would stand up. The judge would stand up. Oh, yeah. And when the judge stood up, we'd all Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, this and this but in this particular courtroom, the court was followed pretty good. So we'd sit down. However, then this jury, they they just file in, sit down. Judge stand up. We then we'd sit down.
And then, the judge would make a every lawyer, there were five lawyers in that case, different it was a conspiracy case, and he would say, good morning, mister Winters. And I'd say, morning, judge. And then some he'd say it to another guy and morning, judge. He'd go one by one. Why did he do that? It was wise thing to do. We all start. We don't know what we're gonna do. We don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know what might bob forth from the flux of all the crazy things that were happening, and we were gonna have disagreements, but we're gonna start with making a point and expression of respect for one another. That's the way it started.
And if you don't do that, and and and if if we do that in a federal courtroom, which we did, by a thousand times more important it is that you do it in your home. No question, because what goes on in a federal courtroom doesn't matter that it doesn't matter that much compared to what goes on in your house. You say, good morning, son. Your son owes you a response. These children that get recalcitrant and have bad attitudes, where do they get that? Well, they get it being around other children. The children are all Yeah. Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, says Public school system. Oh, yeah. Food but but no chill but, yeah, that is true, Roger. But then you get them all together, and all you've got is compounded foolishness because that's what her, and it gets real ugly. And then you've got bad influences. That's why, putting children together like that's like putting pigs together. You know, Roger, when we were raising livestock, we had like everybody at that time, we had all different kind of livestock. In case one failed, the price went down. We got something that may come through for us.
So we raised chickens. Mom had an egg business. We raised, cattle. We, leased out bulls, and we always kept hogs around. And when you keep hogs around and you've got couple old have a litter of pigs, if you put them in farrowing crates, because you wanna try to keep them laying on the pigs, you make sure that the pigs don't because they'll kill another from the different litters. And they're hard enough on each other in the same litter. You know, they're born with real sharp, little razor sharp teeth coming out of their mouths, and they compete for those tits.
And they they don't have a lot of weight. When they get up there and try to feed, they'll knock the littlest one off the end. We called him the run. He constantly get knocked off the end. You know? He get just kept brushing him down till he was laying out there. And he if he had any steam, it's fun to watch him. He'd take a run at he'd take a run at the other. You know, mom's laying down there, you know, on her side. He'd take a run at the other and try to drive his nose between two others to get in there, get latched on someplace. Of course, they're all thrown their heads around sideways, and they got those sharp little teeth.
But that's bad, but that's competitive. We always made sure we'd take them in bottle feed them if we had to, but you let two litters mix up together and they'll they'll kill each other. Well, why if that's true, then it is true and why, and you put little children together in school. Don't tell me they won't abuse abuse each other. I was in school. I knew what went on. It was pretty ugly. Linda
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restraining force. Could I just add to that list a gaggle of pens? Girls, girls, both of you, Linda and Sherry,
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Okay. I think it was Linda that was first and then Sherry. Yeah. Linda, what what did you have? Lady Linda Louise, I want to say thank you to Joan for,
[01:00:01] Unknown:
bringing up this, subject about Christians supposedly loving everybody, even mean, evil people. And I thank you, Roger, for, expounding because when Murrah said yesterday that the truth was that God preferred Jacob over Esau, my heart wanted to believe that, but that was definitely misinformation because when I did the research, there were at least 37 versions of the Bible where it clearly said God hated Esau and only three that I could find. The new living testament, which was the word rejected, Esau, the contemporary English version version, which said, j he the lord liked Jacob more than Esau.
And then the Mace New Testament, which said, Esau, I have discarded. So, thank you, Raj, for bringing this up because now I have two I already
[01:01:06] Unknown:
I Part of my thinking on this has always been what I've come to understand with all these years of study, everything's got a dialectic. So if you got love, you gotta have hate. If you don't if you don't, the world didn't complete. Nothing's ever one-sided. There's always a dialectic. And the other part of it is all you have to do is, well, and make this little this little jump. Well, I guess if god publicly says he hates you, then there's a good chance you may publicly hate him. Would you agree with that?
[01:01:41] Unknown:
Sadly, yes.
[01:01:42] Unknown:
Thank you. Well, the those are my two thesises that kinda ground that I hate him. You see, there's gotta be hate because there's love. Everything's got a dialectic. I've never found anything that doesn't have a dialectic. God, Satan. K? For what it's worth. Sherry, thank you, Linda. Hold on. Linda, Sherry was next. Were you finished, Linda?
[01:02:11] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay.
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Yes. Thank you. Sherry?
[01:02:18] Unknown:
I just wanted to add to, Brent's list about the children getting together, you know, and then they only learn from each other. And then it brought to mind last week, the gaggle of hens, you just can't stop us. I yield.
[01:02:36] Unknown:
We got some real strong lionesses. How about a pride of lionesses, Sherry? Does anybody have a question for me? Thank you. Yeah. There you go. Does anybody have a question or comment for Brent or myself at this stage? So Anybody have a direction you'd like to have us go?
[01:02:57] Unknown:
Go ahead. Brent.
[01:02:58] Unknown:
Oh, it's Joan again.
[01:03:00] Unknown:
So, Brent, do you agree? I mean, is that what is that right? That, if God hates we can hate our enemies too, and we can hate, evil politicians and evil, people that are trying to control, the government and that are murdering in in wars and that are evil and deceitful and lying and and enslaving.
[01:03:30] Unknown:
I I think you can not only hate them, I think you can hate their fruits, which is everything you're just talking about. Well, if you hate the these things like child, all child trafficking and all these horrid, horrid things that we can even only imagine. Okay? If you if you can't hate that without hating who's perpetrating it, can you, Joan?
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I agree. Does Brandon agree?
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I don't know. Well, let's go back again. I keep
[01:04:00] Unknown:
here's the way to deal with this. You have all these application. Well, should I hate this guy? Should I hate that guy? Should I hate a politician? Should I hate a child molester? And on and on and on you go. First thing you wanna ask yourself is, am I am I any better than him? And the answer is no. You aren't. No. You aren't. You in God's eyes, you're just like everybody else. You know, if I said, okay. If I said, okay. Now, everybody who I'm gonna I've got a high jump bar here. Everybody that can jump over, four foot, a four foot bar gets to go to heaven.
If you can jump over this four foot bar. And of course, some people would run and try to jump. Some people would stumble before they even got to the bar. You know, some people would fall on it. Some people couldn't couldn't jump an inch. Some people could jump over it, but from up in God's heaven, if you've been an airplane, you know that's true. If you look down and watch them trying to jump over that four foot bar, they don't look the same to you. They don't look, let's say, let's raise it up a little bit. Let's say, okay, if you can jump over this 20 foot bar, 20 foot in that high compared to God up in the, up in the heavens, but it all looks the same to him. You're all people, we, all of us, we can't jump over the bar. All have sinned. That means to break God's law or elevate God's law, and come short of the glory of God. Even those of us who try the hardest, we miss the mark, and that's what the word the Hebrew word means. And the Greek word, hamartia, means the same thing. It means to try and fail. There are three words in the New Testament and three words in the Hebrew Old Testament that are translated the same, sin.
But they have different nuances of meaning. One of them means to try hard and fail anyway. One of them means to try consistently and fail anyway. And the other one means you don't care one way or the other. You're an apostate. And those rather six words, three in the Old Testament, three in the New. And, I've taken those words and put them in a an appendix in the back of the winterized Bibles so they're they can be compared and contrasted to understand the nuances of what God is saying at any given point. But bottom line is, no matter what no matter what you do in this life, all of your righteousness is as bloody menstrual rags. That's what the book says. So forget trying to justify yourself or say I'm a good guy and he's a bad guy. And I'm not saying you're doing that. I'm just speaking to the whole audience and you you give me an to make a point. Then the next so first, number one, am I any better than them? No.
Not as a mat not in the flesh. I'm not. Although God has taken his elect, and he has justified them. He washed them and that's us. And he's he's disciplining us. He's cleaning us up. There is a difference. Yes. There's a difference, but don't think that as a practical matter, you're no your position, your position with your maker, with your father in heaven is perfect. He has perfected it. There is nothing you can add to it to make any more of what he says it is. You can't go to mass. You can't go to church. You can't teach Sunday school. You can't be a missionary in a foreign country to make your position any better than God has made it, and God's the one that does that. You don't do that.
But your practice is quite something else. You're still struggling with the flesh. And sin, the desire to break God's law, the weakness to temptation is in your flesh. What is born in you, says first John, of the spirit, the seed of the word of God cannot sin. It's not even it can't happen. It's possible that that can sin and that is getting stronger inside of you. But you're struggling against the flesh, of course, until they, they, they, put dirt on you, you're going to be doing that. So the, the second question though, is to ask if the love of God and by the way, Romans or, first Corinthians and lady read that nice passage. Well, a little bit ago, nice passage, but that passage does not define what God what love is. It it gives a list, a long list of characteristics.
And it gives a long list of characteristics in a particular context, I might add. And that particular context doesn't apply in every case. For example, if if the love of God let's deal with the clear statements of the Bible. The clear statements. We start there. We don't start with something that is more contracted to a particular context as Paul always does. He's that kind of a guy. He's a detailed guy. When he writes, you can see that. John, when John writes, he's black and white. There are no exceptions. There are no details, and it just makes bold overarching statements that have no exceptions.
Like John, he's the one that said, for example oh, he says it over and over and over and over in all of his writings, all of his five writings. He wrote five books in the New Testament. His themes are always the same. His vocabulary was very limited. 242 Greek words in the book of first John. Just 200, 242 Greek root words, I should say. But he says more of those, most people, than Paul the apostle could say with his vast vocabulary and the equivalent of two or three doctor's degrees. Well, that's their personalities, and God poured his truth through the personalities of these two men. But John, the one that said, he who hath the son hath life.
And he who hath not the son of God hath not life. The wrath of God hangs over him by a thread. Now that's black and white, friends. It's either up or down, in or out, black or white, heaven or hell, ain't saint or ain't. Ain't no that that's man or woman, ain't not ain't no other third options. Well, but Paul's not that way. Paul's educated as that one, that one emperor that, well, he's under gov, under emperor. He said, much learning Paul, much learning has made you mad. You've been to school too much. You've been intimated beyond your intelligence, Paul. Well, it's probably true. When you read Paul, he's just all over the lot. He knows so much. He just comes at it, and he jumps on the he comes at it from all directions, or he jumps on a horse and rides off in all directions. Everything is context dependent. That's a beautiful passage. It's often read at weddings and other things like that, but that doesn't get get it. That's not the black and white of it. That's some nice characteristics, of course, in certain relationships.
Well, let's go back to the definition. This is the love of God that we keep his commandments. Well, let's think about it. What's his commandments? One of the most fundamental commandments of God is that, if men are convicted after a due due process of, of, killing another person by malice and a forethought, the Bible commands that we are to shed their blood, Shed their blood. Capital punishment. Well, this is the love of God that we keep his commandments. Should we do that? Yeah. Does it appear patient and kind? Well, yeah, we have patience. We're going to make sure due process is followed when we try him as much as we possibly can. Is it kind? Yeah. We're gonna treat him with respect during the trial. If we don't, I would be upset. We treat men with respect.
Are we're to be kind, are we to be patient? Yes. But in the end we are to kill him. Now there's a lot more to that than I just said here, but due process being a lot more, the trial better be fair. The jury better have been in paneled properly. There better been no opportunities for bribes of the jury. It must have been sequestered. They must be from the district where the crime is said to have occurred. They must be of the militiamen, the local militiamen. All of these things the Bible teaches. Are we doing that? I don't think we are. No. Uh-uh. But my point is the love of God applies to things that people say are not loving.
When when I watch what God does to other people, the wrath of God says Rome, Romans one, the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness of men who bury the truth in unrighteousness. Now that's that's, in the what's called the Greek present, which communicates the kind of action that is continuous. And then the proper understanding of it is the wrath of God is continually nonstop being poured out from the skies against the ungodliness. That means you don't acknowledge God. You don't respect him. The ungodliness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
When I see the wrath of God being poured out upon men, and then I see the discipline of God being poured out on his people. And I've I've watched that all my life too, and I've experienced it. It's not pleasant. It's not pleasant to watch. I'm watching a man go down right now. I'm I'm go down. And I have done everything that I could possibly do to keep it from happening. I've been patient. I've been kind. He did not respond. Or what's the next step? Well, the Bible says it gives us a very specific set of, of a course of processes that we're to follow.
You follow that. You'd be careful about following it. It's called due process. When you have a problem with your friend or your neighbor, and when it's over and he won't listen, God says, give him his head, leave him to his devices and I'll I'll take care of it. And that can get real ugly, especially if it's God's people. Yeah. You know, sometimes God lets the evil men just go on and on and on and on and on. They they he uses them to discipline his own people. He uses evil men to discipline his own people. You see that over and over in the Bible. And then God turns around and annihilates the people he used to discipline his own people because they had broken his law and done evil. That's right. God used the the Israelites to do the most dastardly deed that had ever occurred and will ever occur among man, the murder of God himself in human flesh.
He did that. And in doing that, he provided for us the payment for our sins to put us in a position of perfection before him in his eyes to make us his own sons and daughters. He used the dastardly deed of murder of God himself. And then he turned around and judged I mean, put the wrath of God on the people that did that to punish them for their dastardly deed that he had foreordained from before the foundation of the world would occur just the way it happened. Now you're not gonna use logic to explain that. Jesus Christ stood above Jerusalem at the end of his ministry when he was he went down to Jerusalem to give himself up, start a fight, and get him to murder him. That's why he went there because that's what what was foreordained before the foundation of the world. That's what he agreed to do with the other two members of the Godhead, Titus chapter one verses one and two. So that's what he did, but he stood over Jerusalem. Listen to this.
And he said this, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem. After they had rejected him, he said, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you would not, you would not allow it. Now let's stop a minute. It was prophesied by Jesus Christ, a member of the Godhead, before the foundation of the world, that everything would happen to him, that his own people would reject him just the way he did, just the way they did, but then they would murder him for the sins of his people as a a human sacrifice, the only one that could possibly pay the penalty.
Did all of that, but then in his humanness, he expressed compassion over what he had already ordained for ordained would happen. Predestined. Let's use that word. He predestined it would happen just the way it did. How do you explain that? You don't. So what do we do instead? We do what he tells us to do. That's what we do. We rest upon what he tells us. We are to rest upon and understand. Ours is not to understand everything. We can't. If we could understand everything, like the predestination of God in his sovereignty, we would tell him to scoot over and we'll crawl up in the throne with him, but that ain't gonna happen.
We are not him. His thoughts, the Bible says, are higher than our thoughts. His ways are beyond our understanding. We cannot figure it out. We cannot use logic to develop a more sure relationship with our maker and not not in the ultimate sense. Logic's a tool that can be used, yes, but not to figure out in the ultimate sense the sovereignty of God. And we bow before him, not understanding. I know about as much about the sovereignty of God and his predestination as a rabbit would know about what I'm thinking, probably less. And if you can't say that with confidence, then God has not enlightened your spirit. You are not of God. But I know a lot of folk that say they're Christian. I just, I shake my head and I say, look, it's not that hard. It's just a matter of, does God give it to you to accept what he says? Or is he like, Jesus Christ said of Jerusalem, thou would not. You just wouldn't do it. You will not accept the truth. You know, I find with people. I get people wanna argue with me about the Bible. I don't do it. I will not do it. I'll tell them the way it is, and that's the end of it. If I believe it and I'm clear on it, that's my job. I'll tell them I'm not here to argue logic with anybody.
I have discovered that people, in general, we're pretty sorry bunch and we get with the Bible and it's our inclination to reject what it says because it hurts. That's why it hurts because the Bible isn't, doesn't, venerate mankind. It venerates God and makes us look pretty bad. And so over and over and over, like Paul says, there is none good, no good man. No, not one. The those are the foundations of all of the Bible to understand who God is in relation to me. Well, he's perfect. And clearly, my practice is not perfect. Yes. Again, as to stress, if you're a Christian man or woman, your position is perfect and it ain't going to change. You look, he sees you through the right headedness of his son, Jesus Christ, and you're covered.
Your sins have been paid for past, present, and future. All of them says the Bible. And because of that, he's committed to you. He wouldn't commit. He wouldn't commit his son and the blood of the blood of God. The Bible calls the blood of Jesus Christ, the blood of God, and then lose what he has purchased. And he says, I won't do that. I purchased you with the blood of God, my very blood, And I'm not gonna let you go, and nobody's gonna take you out of my hand. Nobody. Well, back to you, Roger.
[01:19:25] Unknown:
Gotcha. Thanks. Hey, Brent. Soliloquy, Brent's just like I tell the audience, so you can take Brent's like the ever ready bunny. You You wind him up, and man, he just keeps going. Hey, Bob. How are you doing this day, buddy? Hey, Bob.
[01:19:39] Unknown:
Doing well. Doing well. Hello, Brent. I've got a question concerning the passages. Let's see. Deuteronomy thirty two thirty five and, Romans twelve seventeen through 19 that has to do with in broad terms, vengeance is mine. I will repay, says the lord. Mhmm. Knowing those two, I'd like your commentary on it. I've been a little bit squeamish, I'll be honest, about Roger's boisterous enthusiasm about exacting vengeance in god's name when god tells us not to. It's mine. It's in Revelation 18, Bob. It's right here. I understand, Roger. I'm talking to Brent. Please. Okay. Let me Sorry. I wanna know. We've heard you. Believe me. We know what you think.
[01:20:28] Unknown:
I'm gonna defend myself. Go ahead. Okay. Before this is over, Roger, I want Roger and I'll let him I wanna know what you you said because I'm in the dark a little bit. Go ahead. We'll, we want Bob to talk now. Thanks, Roger. Yeah.
[01:20:42] Unknown:
Bob, go ahead. I'm done. I I was just questioning what your position is. And if Roger wants to put his position out, how do you see that what he will come forward with? What do you how do you see that with the statement vengeance is mine both in the new and old testament?
[01:21:01] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Roger.
[01:21:04] Unknown:
Roger, you're changing. Go ahead, Roger. Explain your position. Alright.
[01:21:09] Unknown:
My position comes from Revelation 18, Brent. Babylon of Babylon the great has fallen. Come out of her, my people. And and then it says, serve her double what she served you. Fill her cup double, something that affects us twice again, but it doesn't say I'm going to. It evidently makes me believe that the remnant is is directed to do that. Now, Bob, here's the question. If the remnant is directed to do that, is that still god's will? He's still doing it. He's just using somebody.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Well and then, thank you, Roger. I understand now what you're saying. And, the Bible says, for instance, the one that I think of most often when I think of the vengeance of God is, Romans 12. You'd mentioned that. And then moving into that moves into 13. Now maybe that's where we ought to start, and I appreciate you bringing this up. But this is huge. You know, as you'd mentioned, Romans 12, quotes Deuteronomy and says vengeance is mine, god speaking. I will repay thus, saith the lord. And then you move on through Romans there, chapter 12, and then it it goes into Romans chapter 13.
Romans chapter 13 is that famous passage, chapter 13 verse one, that says, all authority is from God. All jurisdiction is from God. All right is from God. There are many synonyms we could use there, but Romans 13 is the continuation from Romans 12 of the verse you mentioned. And the whole context there is about the authority, the jurisdiction, the right of government to bear the sword and kill people. That's what it's about. When the Bible says vengeance is mine, I will repay, how are we to apply that? Well, we know it's really easy. It's clear. The statement's clear as crystal. Vengeance is, from from God, and it's not to be. I'm not the source of vengeance.
But he there, when he gets to Romans chapter 13, recognize that these chapter divisions aren't part of the inspired text of God. The fellow that draft Magna Carta put these chapter divisions in here. His name was Stephen Langton. They're pretty good, and they help us get a handle on where things are. But the context here, when it moved from 12 to 13, is about that verse that Bob quoted, vengeance is mine. I will repay. And then it says recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. Well, what's the answer to this? If if, if, people do wrong things clearly, the powers that be sometimes have them send them to the electric chair here in America or, find them heavily.
Say we want your personal property. You've done wrong things. Give us $250,000. Fine or or they provide some kind of retribution. Well, I'll just give you my take on it. Is does vengeance belong to God alone? Yes. As it says here in Romans 12, recompense, not tit for tat. But then it moves into 13, and it says, let every soul be subject, therefore, unto the, higher powers. I'm reading King James, which isn't exactly accurate here, but just to get a feel for it. Because vengeance belongs to God, God exacts his vengeance through men.
That's when he sent the Babylonians on to wipe out and murder the not murder, kill. Yeah. They murdered him. Murder the Israelites. When God sent the Roman legions to Jerusalem to wipe it off the face of the map, which they did, killed a couple of hundred thousand people. That's the vengeance God using men. We are his instruments of vengeance. Now how does that work? Well, in a common law country, which is God's way of doing things, that means, criminal jurisdiction is the is the is the subject here. Well, let me just read the whole thing from a and that way, we'll get the flow of it. I keep jumping around. Okay. Here we go. Bless them. I'm in Romans 12. Bless them which persecute you.
Bless and curse not. I get so mad. I wanna curse people that are doing evil. Don't do it, friends. Don't do it. Why? Because you don't have authority to do that. If God wants to say go to hell, well, he can do that. The pope of Rome doesn't have that authority. You don't have the that authority, and no other mortal has that authority. Then it says rejoice with them that do rejoice and weep with them that weep. Then it says, be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
What's the context here? He's talking about Christian folk. He's not talking about Christian folk dealing with non Christian folk. He's talking about Christian folk clearly. Every time you see the words one another in the New Testament, just keep it down in your mind. We're talking here the context is Christian folk, not other people. We put them that, etcetera. Recompense to men evil for evil. We're talking about Christian folk, brother and then sister, and as we say. If it be possible as much as life in you, live peaceably with all men as much as lieth within you. There is a limit. He's acknowledging that. Dear dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves. That means no vengeance.
But rather give place unto wrath for it is written vengeance is mine. I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore, verse 20, quote the old testament still, if thine enemy hunger, feed him. If he thirst, give him drink. For in doing so, thou shall heap coals of fire on his head. Means you're gonna make him mad. He'll come after you if you do that. He'll make he'll just make him worse. That's alright. That's alright. That's what God says to do. This is the love of God that we keep his commandments. Why why do we have agreements with other countries during World War two with Germany that we would feed their, their the German soldiers and sailors as prisoners of war? And we feed them. We did. We treated them very well. Why? Because that's what the Bible says. These are the rules of war, friends.
Did Germany do it to us? They tried, but they didn't have enough money to buy food. But, you know, they tried. Be not overcome with evil, therefore overcome evil with good. Chapter 13. Let every soul, that means every breathing man, subject be subject to the lawful powers. That's a better way to translate that. It's the Greek word exousia. It means authority, jurisdiction, lawfulness, lawful powers. Be in subject to them. Why? Because there is no lawful authority. The word power is not in here. This is the translation of way, William Tyndale and the King James translators. It's not power. It's authority. Lawfulness is a good word.
Whoever resisteth lawfulness resisteth the ordinance of God, and they that resisteth shall receive to themselves damnation. Okay. Do not take vengeance, but there is the powers that be, if they're lawful, that bear the sword, and they don't do it for nothing. That's what he's gonna say here. For rulers, the powers that be are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Is that true? Was the Biden administration a terror to good works? Yes. They were. But that's not what he's saying here. He's talking about lawful government, and he uses words to make that abundantly apparent. He's not just talking about any government. He's saying, let every soul be subject to the lawful powers. That's what the word means. It is not translated that way properly here in the King James version for what I believe is a very important reason to the translators and King James. King James didn't believe that. King James said, I am the law. You obey me no matter what. And he said this, no man. I answer to no man on earth and never will. I will only answer to God at the end of my life. You obey me and shut up. That was King James the first. That was Henry the eighth. That's what that was Mary Queen of Scots.
That was the Stuart James. That was their attitude. It was the law of the city. It was wrong. That's not what he's saying here.
[01:29:55] Unknown:
Lawful lawful versus legal. Could you put that in there in a context, Brent?
[01:30:00] Unknown:
Oh, the word legal is alright. I just don't like Latin words as much as English words. I like
[01:30:06] Unknown:
lawful. Well, I know. But but lawful goes back to God's law, and legal is is Babylonian merchant code.
[01:30:14] Unknown:
Well, I'm not opposed to using it. I'm just giving you my brothers. I I know. I, I don't like the foreign words as much. But, yeah, alright. The word has a definite meaning. Nothing wrong with using it. But what it comes down to, Romans 13 is saying to us, arrange yourself under lawful government. Unlawful government's another question, and that's nobody's talking about here. Then the question comes, oh, how if I don't have to arrange myself under unlawful government, they may kill me if I don't. That's true. They may throw you in jail. That's true too. Yep. Up to this and I don't want to go over all of it now because I can't. But the question all it may ultimately comes down to is this, when do I disobey government?
And when do I obey government? What hill do I want I want to die on? We can talk about that later, but let's address Bob's question. Does God use his people to execute his vengeance? Yes. And how does he do it? Listen to me real close. If your enemy thirsts, give him something to drink. If your enemy hungers, give him something to eat. You say that will help God wreak his vengeance on those he wants to be vengeful toward. Absolutely. If you try to get in the way, here's the deal. If you try to get in the way and you have a vengeful attitude, the Bible promises in the old testament, God will just back off and he'll let you try it. You might get hurt. Let me give you some real life examples here.
And I'm struggling with this now. I'm not struggling. I've just got to fight the fight. And I've had this happen before. It's nothing new on a couple of platforms here, a couple of occasions, couple of circumstances, man, I'm doing evil things, evil things, and I'm in a position where I'm got to do something to stop it. And so I'm doing that. And what I have to do in those cases is I have to go in and say, I'm I'm sad about this. I'm not bingeable about it, but God has given us courts for this reason. I don't wanna commit violence against these people that are doing these evil things, but I do want them to stop. And as long as the courts are open, and they are, I'm gonna take it into court, and I'm gonna do all I can to stop it and see what happens. I'll do all I can. And all I can do is all I can do, but all I can do may be enough. I'm not happy about it.
I'm not gonna be vengeful about it. Lord willing. I don't feel that way. But, yes, God will use me to accomplish his vengeance when he wants to if I will simply do what he tells me to do in my private life. I believe that. And I believe God uses men to exact his vengeance. Let me give you a example from the from the past. And God, the wrath of God is being poured out against the ungodliness of men, the disrespect of men who hold the truth and unrighteousness, and it's being done, or in the Romans, I'm repeating myself, all day every day.
Can't you see it? Are you blind to it? How do you explain all the killing that's going on in Ukraine? One Point Five Million dead folk. What is God doing? I don't know for sure, but I know this. This thing, I I know for sure about what he's doing. He's doing it to glorify himself, and in the end, he will. Is he executing his vengeance? I'm not God, but I know this. God does execute his vengeance. And who is he using to do that if that's what's happening here? Well, he's using men. God doesn't do anything in this world, this whole world of ours, but he doesn't use men. Did you know that? Oh, yeah. And every and and, demons and devils. Like it said, the the devil may be a devil, but he's God's devil and he can only do what God allows and what God permits.
Sometimes he does. Sometimes he doesn't. And why does he do it? Why did he turn him loose? Because he's glorifying himself. He sets up rulers, the Bible says, in the in the earth, in the land. Just so he can show his power and tear him down like he did the pharaoh. That's what the Bible says. Am I willing to accept that? I don't know. I don't know how else to approach life, but to accept what it says. And if you don't accept what it says, you're gonna live in hell and chaos and and despair all the time. The Bible is truth, my friends. What's that, Roger? And be miserable.
And be miserable. No. Accept it. Go along peaceably. If you if you're a child of God, you're gonna go along anyway. You know, the Bible says every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is a lordial lord of all. Not just on Sundays, not just at church. No. Everything. Everything. I had a lady tell me the other day, smart lady, by the way, very intelligent lady. I've known her for years. And, she said, Brent, and well, we've we've abandoned the roles of men and women. That's our problem. Yes. Women that have their roles and we've talked about this a lot. And she said, yes, but that only applies in the church. I said it does.
I said, all these, all these gals that are upfront now are doing the talking, on the newscast in politics. They're the heroes. Now they're doing the talking. Have you noticed that all of the men are starting to talk like a feminine it's now? Have you noticed that? Are you, you think that's just supposed to be in the church? Is that what you're saying? Well, that was her conviction. No. It's not just the church. The Bible says Jesus Christ is lord of all. His law, his will applies to all. And the sooner we bring it to all, the sooner they'll feel guilty. The the law of God, the word of God, the will of God, the the desire of God will constrain the evil, the non elect.
Like Jonathan Edwards said, why do I preach? Who who are the who are the elect? Mister Edwards. Jonathan Edwards. He was around just before our country started. But who are the elect? He said, that's not my business to know. He said, if you can spur and said this, you, you go around and pull up people's shirts. If I see a big e printed on their backs place or their belly, then I guess I would know. But I don't know. And it's my job as the Bible says to declare the truth of God to everybody and let God take care of that. That's not my business. But if you do that, said Jonathan Edwards, which we're doing here, I don't know who's listening, but if you do that, the word of God will constrain the evil in the non elect and it will not only constrain it, it will, God will use it to discipline his own people away from evil.
You don't just know to be a good person when you're born from above and all of a sudden everything changes. No, no, no. There are plenty of people that have taken that, and it's gone to seed and made them look like darn fools. All of the Pentecostal movement is that of that ilk, All of the assemblies of God, all of the Nazarene church that came out of the Methodist, the second work of grace, the second baptism of the Holy Spirit, all that stilling us has all just gone to trash. It doesn't work. You can't reach perfection as long as you got this body of flesh, but God will move you forward and life will become more enjoyable as you go. That's the reality of the Christian life. Quit living in LA LA land. You'll be more disappointed in the end. You'll end up like Jimmy Swaggart. He was in that world, that Pentecostal world.
What happened to him? Well, I don't need to tell you. Go look it up. And I'm not saying that Jimmy is not a Christian man, but I am saying, but he's forfeited a lot of enjoyment, taken the position that he could be that righteous and be perfect and reach a state of perfection in this life as all of the charismatic and Pentecostal and TV mega preachers teach the health and material wealth gospel and all that. That's the doctrines of demons robbing men and women of ultimate joy and satisfaction of life. Yep. Ultimate joy and satisfaction of life come because my parents put a whooping on me. I'm thankful for it every day. Yep. And how much more so I should be because despise not the whooping of the Lord. That's what it says in Hebrews. Roger, go ahead.
[01:38:31] Unknown:
No. I'm just following along on what you're saying in my mind and and and realizing and seeing we just a second, Sherry, that spare the rod and spoil the child. That these people that have not ever had any discipline because they may not have a father in the house or whatever, and you can see how they turn out, and you can see if you're around young children how much they appreciate. Oh, they may scream a little bit and squawk, but they appreciate that discipline. They respect you for it. K? Sherry. Uh-huh.
[01:39:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Sherry.
[01:39:07] Unknown:
This is Rob Hold on. This is Robbie.
[01:39:10] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Robbie. I thought it was Sherry. I'm sorry. Hi, Robbie.
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Hey, Jer.
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Listen. I appreciated Joan's question. I'm not sure if there was an answer if I got it, but, would would Brent say that we're supposed to love our enemies, and not hate them? And if so, how do we love our enemies if that's the answer to the question? I yield.
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Well, let's go back to the definition. Always go back to the definition. What is the definition of love? Here it is again. I know we all need to hear it over and over again. This is the love of God, comma, that we keep his commandments. There it is. So how do you love your neighbor? Well, you do what God says to do toward him in the relationship you're in with him. How do you love your enemy? You do what God says to do toward him. That's how you do it. God's God doesn't authorize us, for example, to torture prisoners of war, our enemies in battle.
So we should not do that. And to not do that is loving your enemy. But to do what God says toward the other person, the relationship you're in is to love him. That's the answer. But if you don't know, and I'm not saying you do or don't, but anybody who doesn't know what the standard of God is, what the will of God is, the desire of God is concerning that particular relationship you're in, you won't know what to do, and you will not be able to love him. You won't. You may do what, oh, it just feels so affectionate and nice to to talk to him or put my hand on him. We've got difficult people in our lives. You got them too. And we keep thinking. We're prone to think in the flesh. Another conversation is gonna fix it. And so we try to have another conversation. It doesn't fix it in every case, my friend. It gets worse. Right. Oh, wait. So what are we to do? Just a minute. I'll be ready. I'll be done. So what are we to do? We are to search the scriptures to find out what we're supposed to do. And the Bible is very clear on these matters.
And we can talk about that some other time, but it comes down to this is the love of God that we do what he tells you to do. Jesus Christ said this very simple. He said this, if you love me, if you love me, just keep my commandments. Do what I tell you to do. That's it's that simple. We need to go beyond that right now, but we can talk about the particulars. Now
[01:41:43] Unknown:
somebody there was a man who said Brent, but I Samuel, I believe. Robbie, did that answer your question? Yeah. I'm glad you stepped forward.
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That was sketch.
[01:41:53] Unknown:
I guess I'm wondering if Brent is meaning that we deal with this as God deals with us individually, That he speaks to us individually through his word and through prayer and through his spirit? Or is he saying that the answer is only in the Bible? And if so, I'm still not sure if I if if I can eat my enemies or not.
[01:42:22] Unknown:
The answer is only in the Bible. That's right. And if you're born from above, the spirit of God dwells in your brain and in your body, and he will illuminate the word of God to you. But the answer is there. It's just a matter of is the spirit of God going to illuminate it and show you how to apply it in individual instances. That's the answer. Don't make it too complicated. I think sometimes yeah. I think you're making it too complicated, but I don't know you so well. Well, we have a a tendency here to overthink things, I think, at times. Yeah. Just do it. What does it say to do? Do it. When you see it in the Bible, you can't go wrong. You can't Hold on. You're chomping at the bit here. Is that sketch?
[01:43:03] Unknown:
Sam Yes. It's sketch. I told you it was Samuel. Yeah. But go let Samuel go ahead.
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Please. Okay. Samuel, I thought it was you.
[01:43:14] Unknown:
Roger, we we started out, about, you know, God hating Esau, and I do believe this is the only time there's an association, that word translated with a man. Now it doesn't happen with Cain. It doesn't happen with Pharaoh. But if you look at Proverbs six 16 through 19, God lists the things that he hates. And I I think one of the big mistakes we make as people is because God knew Esau before he even existed. Right. She has a whole little better understanding of what Esau is about than we do. And when we make the mistake of thinking that we can do something that God does, that scenario
[01:44:07] Unknown:
Well, what if you're directed to? Like, do this. Do this. It didn't say I'm going to do it. It says somebody else is. Go look over that list for Proverbs on the things he hates. Would you say, Samuel? Yep. I yeah. I I I think that if you,
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you're gonna know if if God's calling you to do something. Like, look at all these Zionist committing genocide over in Palestine. I mean, I don't think God's sanctioning that one.
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Anyway, here's the list. Little God, Satan is.
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Number one is arrogance and pride. Two is deception and lying. Three is murder and violence. Four is malice, evil intentions. Five is, eagerness to do wrong. Six is, perjury or false testimony. And seven is gossip and causing division.
[01:45:06] Unknown:
Well, I can put pen every one of those pins right on the tail of our enemies. Yeah. In space. I know.
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Okay. I think we just have to be careful about whether we think Well we can do what God does and justify it, which is, I think, an error. We we need to to to be thoughtful and prayerful over any action we take against enemy. And, you know, over the time, I've learned that it's a lot easier to try to make peace with somebody who's attacking me than to try to dig a hole a deeper hole.
[01:45:44] Unknown:
How do you make how do you make peace with somebody that you can't trust and they say an oath every year that they can lie, cheat, and steal for the next year. How do you how do you make some sort of a deal with it for a person like that?
[01:45:58] Unknown:
Lies as serpents, gentle as doves.
[01:46:03] Unknown:
See, I don't think you can deal with them. The the the the historic monikers that have been attached to them through history weren't just out of, you know, people, oh, here they come. We're gonna hate them. These people caused that reaction by what they did to cultures and civilizations. They they've earned it. Okay? So, you know, my question again, did they have they not dictated the remedy here? It's not me. I'd like to take a Christian hold it. No. Hold it, Samuel. I'd like you to take this Christian approach you're talking about. Okay? But I can't do it with them because they're not to be trusted in any way shape or form. So how does that bear on that?
[01:46:44] Unknown:
Well, I'm not saying that we don't get to execute justice at some point over all of this. What I'm saying is I find it very very unique that only once in the Bible is there an association with hate and a man, and it's only Esau. I think God's doing that purposely, and I don't think we quite understand it.
[01:47:08] Unknown:
Well, that could very well could be. Very well could be, Samuel.
[01:47:12] Unknown:
This is Mitch.
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Yes.
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Alright. Yes, ma'am. Female comment.
[01:47:20] Unknown:
Hi, Rogers and Brent. This is Nancy in Virginia. Hey, Nate. To your question, Roger, I think, you know, about, a double measure in Revelations, would it not have to be as instruments as intro instruments of god's vengeance as, in executing that? We would have it would have to be in alignment and consistent with the rest of god's laws.
[01:47:44] Unknown:
Well, I agree with that, Nancy. Okay. Yeah. My question is always be how could we serve them double what they've done to us? How do you double what these people have done to us over two thousand years?
[01:47:57] Unknown:
I think it would be those in contemplation of that question at the time of that action. Right? I mean, how how else can you answer that? I I don't know. So it'd be You know,
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things that you can think about, I think about occasionally, more probably more than occasionally. And, I I just I I do we wait for Jesus to come back to separate the tares from the wheat and and let them continue to torture? See, I maintain that either we we gotta kill them or they gotta kill us or we can't live together. That that seems to me Amen. Only three conclusions that I've been able to come to in dealing with these people. And what they've done and what Zionism did was it pulled them out of the ghettos, the Orthodox and the other Jews where they're very easily identifiable.
Now they built those ghettos. We didn't build them and put them in there. They built them to separate themselves from us. Well, Zionism took them out of that, put them in suits and ties, and stuck them on Wall Street and political offices. And look where we are. Roger?
[01:49:06] Unknown:
Yes. Roger.
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Hold hold on. Female. Yes, ma'am.
[01:49:14] Unknown:
Roger, it seems to me that in the Old Testament times, god used his people to destroy the enemy. What happened to us now? What why isn't why are we just so passive and just You you wanna know why? That's my question.
[01:49:37] Unknown:
Because they know the power of religion. And back in the middle of the eighteen hundreds, they were already cultivating an antidote on how to deal with this when they co opted Scofield. And that whole thing and now the whole control over all the churches in the World Council of Churches have led to those attitudes. My opinion.
[01:50:00] Unknown:
I'm aware of that, but my question still is why in the Old Testament did the Father have His children destroy the enemy? Why isn't He doing that with us now? It's almost like He's just, you know, let's we're we're just the whipping board. Well And I I don't think that's God's will. Why can't why why doesn't God allow us to go after him and destroy him now like he did in the Old Testament?
[01:50:29] Unknown:
You know, I don't know, Brent. You got you wanna weigh in here? You wanna Well, he is sideline there. He didn't do that in the Old Testament anymore than you see it done today. God just as often had, Israel's enemies destroy them. Real about what's going on here. The wrath of God is being revealed continuously from heaven against all ungodliness of men who hold the truth and unrighteousness. You if you can't see that, well, then look harder. I know it's happening right now. And he uses us, and we don't even know it. But I say again, it's not a matter of us picking up a weapon and going out and shooting people. It's a matter of us simply doing what he tells us to do. Right. If you love me, just do what I tell you to do. I'll fight your battles. I'll defend your borders. And then when the time comes, you will be used too to do what I want you to do. But anybody who thinks they're gonna be a lone ranger, I'm not blaming you, miss, but, lone ranger go out and destroy the enemy. That ain't gonna happen. They they tell us expressly not to do that. Brent? It says come out of her. Come out of her. Yes. Oh, yes. I mean, there's this is why I say it's not a matter it's not a matter of, going out and doing what you think is right. Oh, I see injustice, and I think we should stop. No. It's a matter of of you, me, individually, soaking our brains in the Bible.
And when we do that, that will transform. The Bible says it transforms our minds, and it transforms our lives, and it puts something about us that scares God's enemies. And we don't even know it. There's no arrogance gonna be attached to it because we don't even know. But God uses us that way. We must, and to do this, must trust him
[01:52:11] Unknown:
and just do what he tells us to do. If you don't think they know he exists, why would they go in some woman's apartment in England and arrest them for praying in their apartment? How about standing down the block from an abortion clinic, silent prayer? You don't think that they don't fear it? Why would they go screw those people the way they do?
[01:52:33] Unknown:
Mary, queen of Scots said I fear she said I fear the prayers of John Knox more than all the armies of Europe. And she wasn't just kidding. That wasn't just a off the cuff joke. She was scared out of her wits. No question. Scared of us. And things haven't changed a bit. As a matter of fact, the Bible says in Hebrews again that if you think God was brutal in the Old Testament and you think things were rough then, there God is more serious and rougher and more brutal now. And the reason it says he's more brutal now is because we have the completed written revelation of Jesus Christ.
We have no excuse, and God is not going to tolerate, and he doesn't tolerate people disrespecting him and his son and the spirit of God. You reject the spirit of God, you have committed the unforgivable sin. And there's a definition to that too. We're going through that in Jude right now on on Saturdays. Saturdays.lawyer.com. You can join us. My point is in the second.
[01:53:45] Unknown:
Brent, Sketch has been chomping here. Go ahead, Sketch.
[01:53:50] Unknown:
Yes. I appreciate the time. So I will preface this by saying my definition of war is organized murder, which I don't think, the Lord approves of. But, we did have a revolutionary war with Christians fighting against the British. And question is, did they come out of her by taking up arms? And is that the proper I've I've struggled with this. How do I, walk in the Lord's footsteps and defend myself and my family, with force? And do I do I, kill them with love, because of their wicked ways? And I was supposed to bring up a topic about Masons, which I'll don't think we'll get to today. I yield. Thank you.
[01:54:43] Unknown:
Well, the mandate of God to men it says that you're worse than unbeliever if you don't provide for your family. And you can't provide for your family if you allow other people to abuse them and kill them and rob them and rape them. That is why in our common law tradition and in the Bible, the whole idea of self defense means you bear a weapon. Peter came to Jesus Christ and said, Jesus Christ said, if you've got a cloak and a cloak was something not everybody could afford. If you've got one, I suggest you sell it and buy a sword.
And, well, what the disciples said to him after that is material to what we're saying here. But the bottom line is Jesus Christ said you need to be able to defend yourself. The Bible does is forbid you from executing vengeance, but when somebody's coming after you with intent to kill or to maim or harm you or your family, you have an affirmative duty to stop them. That is true. And I suggest that people people, take a a firearms training course, safety and marksmanship, purchase a military grade weapon and 500 rounds of ammunition, and then take that training course because you have a duty under the law of God. You are a member of the militia. If you're a man, you are a member. Whether you know it or not or understand it or not, if you're over 20 years old according to the Bible, you have that duty. By the way, that's the age of accountability in the Bible.
If you're over 20 years old, you better get real serious about finding out what is God wants you to do. That's why 603,548 men Men, exactly that many died during the forty years in the wilderness. The Bible says in the New Testament that God slew them. Slew them. They were the age of accountability, and they they were apostate, and they rejected the illumination of the spirit of God to their minds. Well, the spirit of God eliminated their minds, and they said we don't care. And that's what happened to them. 603,548 men, aged 20 years old and above.
And so it's our duty to recognize that we are here to support and defend the law of the land. Our common law comes in two volumes, and the court of last resort of of those two volumes is the Bible. We are here to defend against enemies foreign. That means willingness to take up arms to defend our land. And against enemies domestic, that means a willingness to serve on the jury. The militia of under our common law tradition and in the Bible has the duty of governance. Armed defense and jury duty. Jury duty, defend the law of the land. Armed defense, defend the land. That's why our oath says what it says. It's an ancient oath going back hundreds and hundreds of years. We still use it here in America.
That's its meaning, and we're not recognizing that clearly. We have a duty of defense of the land and of those that are here with us, our fellow freemen. Does that does that respond to your question? Please tell me.
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Yes. Hey, Brad.
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Thank you so much. Good. I really appreciate it because it it's been a struggle for me for twenty years trying to answer that, and that added to me solving that problem. Thank you.
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I also suggest that you go to commonlawyer.com and get a copy of the book called, the militia of the several states, our constitution's answer to its enemies, foreign and domestic. And that booklet is, about the four militia clauses of our US constitution. There are four, and three of them are totally ignored and forgotten. Yeah. The fourth one is the second amendment. But, it's important that we, revitalize, our understanding of that Amen. And pick up our duty as men as men. Yep.
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There was somebody Bob, was that you?
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Yeah. Since I started this whole hornet's nest, I think I was gonna try to resolve it. I hear a whistler. Let me wait on that.
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Okay. Well, then in that case, it'll take about thirty seconds here, a few seconds to get through this, and then I'll call it a Friday. We'll obviously hang around and address this and occasionally get into other discussions for unbelievable lengths of time, but don't know about that today, at least on my part. But, we'll be back again tomorrow on our Saturday show, of course. And, Mark will be back, and and, people are already wanting to talk to him. So, it's it'll be a a good show, I'm sure. And then we'll be back Monday after that. Otherwise, I just hope that the folks appreciate that we have Brent on this regular schedule here on every every week and, that, my my opinion of Brent is he's a national treasure. That's not the first time I've said that, and maybe those of you who are just getting, exposed to Brent will come to feel the same. We're tickled to death to be friends with him and have this, co co host Friday, and we've come up with some startling results from discussions here over the years.
So, anyway, have a, good Friday evening, and, we'll be back with you tomorrow or soon. One of the two. And, Francine, sure was good to see you show up, girl. Okay. We're gonna lay our bodies down. Paul's gonna knock us off the, feed, and we'll address Bob's situation.
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Okay. Thank you. Well, I have no problem endorsing what's been said. My only concern has been over time listening to you, Roger. It seems like it it tends towards vigilantism, even your enthusiasm. That's my only concern. I can't
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I I know too much. I understand too much. I've studied them too much. And to me, and until justice comes, there ain't no other answer. You gotta address how do you deal with these people.
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Yeah. I get it. But that that was my only concern. If we are used as instruments of God's vengeance, sign me up. I'll get in front. I mean, listen.
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So Boy, I can Okay. I can make up one of them 13 loop hangmanuses quicker than you can shake a lamb's tail twice.
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Right here.
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Yeah. Samuel.
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The the the problem is is, you you know, as a country, those those seven things that God hates, we are doing as public policy.
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And, of course, well, who who's been running the country for ninety two years? What else would you expect?
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You know, there's there's that old joke. You know? If, if God is fair, he's gonna have to judge us or he's gonna owe Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.
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Samuel, I I I mean, you know, I can't argue with you. It's repulsive. That's why men you know what? That's why thirty something years ago, finally, after being having an angst about this from when I was in college in the sixties of knowing something was wrong and not being able to pinpoint it, that's when I jumped into the tax thread. Buddy, I had me a thread then, and I'm still following it here today with us here right now.
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Samuel.
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And as I tell people, Samuel, I found God. I refound God. I was exposed to him when I was early, younger, but I found God because I found Satan in the damn internal revenue code. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Another way to look at that, Samuel, and you've heard this before. I mean, I know I've stated it on this program, but it's instructive, and other people may not have heard it. Look at the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and tell me we're not a communist nation. Now Absolutely. Maybe we're not communist in our conception, but we're certainly communist in our execution right now as a national government. We have embraced wholeheartedly every plank. Yes. I agree. Yeah. So that's another way of looking at what you were just saying. You know, public policy is absolutely perverted. Yes.
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Well, we use we use deception and betrayal and and violence to create this whole Ukraine and Middle East thing. And I heard yesterday, because both sides are keeping the death toll to themselves, but they're estimating that a thousand people a day die on on those two sides of that that line, which is about 800 miles long.
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Roger me?
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Yes, Kash? Just
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a quick on, using deception to win. Elon Musk is, is, has put a facade on the IRS to make it look like a Tesla, dealership.
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And, I think that's
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one way to one way to win through deception.
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Ah, Potemkin Village. Okay. Too funny. So, anyway well, I got a a lunch appointment here in a few minutes, and so I'm gonna not hang around today. But, Brent, I don't know what's going on with him. He's mighty quiet, Joan. Yes. Do you have something for me specifically?
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Roger, you might wanna hear this. Brent, what is your understanding of that, serve them back double the cup that they served you.
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I don't know if he's with us. He might have split.
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He's muted. Brent, are you talking? Roger.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm here. I I wanted to ask for somebody to tell me what she said because
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What your could you your interpretation of Revelation eighteen three or four words is serve her double, fill her cup double?
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Oh, I suppose was talking about,
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the wrath of God filling the cup up. Is that the passage there? That's what's well, somebody's supposed to do it. He says, come out of her, my people. Come out of her, and then says, fill her cup double. We serve her double what she served you. Well, my interpretation is come out of her as the remnant, and that's what we're supposed to do. He doesn't say, I'm going to fill her cup double. He he says, do it. Somebody else is supposed to do it.
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Yeah. And the question is, what verse what what verse is that in chapter 18?
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It's right, I don't know, four or five right down there, below come out of her, my people. And then it's right underneath that come out of her, my people. Yeah. Well,
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I'm looking, but it's I'm not popping up to me. I'm getting a Bible here, but maybe, she can tell us what verse that is. Can you tell us?
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Joan, can you give us the verse number? I'm in a different room. I cannot get to the Bible right this moment. Okay. Well, it can't be very far down the list. I mean, I can just about quote the 18 for you to that point.
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Uh-huh.
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It's it can't be more than 45675 456, maybe. Yeah.
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Yeah. Let me read it here. Let's start up here in the early verse of chapter 18. He said, I saw John speaking says, I saw by the way, he was over 90 years old when he wrote this, and he was he was in slave labor on the Isle Of Patmos. He tells us at the beginning he was on Patmos. 1 of the messengers of God came down having great power. The earth was lightened up with his glory like lightning. They cried mightily with a strong voice, Babylon, the greatest fallen, is fallen and has become the habitation of devils and holds every foul spirit and cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, And the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. Verse four. And I heard another voice from heaven saying, come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, that you receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and god hath remembered her iniquities. That's her sins. Reward her even as she has rewarded you. Reward her even as she has rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works in the cup with which she hath filled her of of his militia, come out of her, my people. And then he tells my people what to do. And this brings up a point again, the simple reality of the vocabulary.
Every time you see the words my people in the Bible or Right. The people, that is, denoting a band of armed men. And in most all cases in the Bible, as this case here, it denotes the militia of God himself. The militia of God himself. A band a large band of armed men. He's commanding his militia to execute his judgment upon her. And then he goes on talks about the kings of the earth who have committed fornication, verse nine. The merchants, he talks about that again. Merchants and fruit, alas, alas, the great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, etcetera. For in one hour, all this is gonna come to naught. And he's commanding the militia of his people, the males, my friends, the males to do this.
The question is when and how. And here's what I because he doesn't specifically tell me, Brent, you gotta go. No. He's telling his militia. And when he speaks of militia, he speaks in the singular. He's talking about a group, a number of men together under proper command. When we were teaching the militia course, we talked about the four militia clauses, sheriff Darleaf and I. You can take that course if you go to commonlawyer.com. I made a point of stressing over and over and over. I didn't want anybody to miss it. But the militia is always under authority of a chain of command that God has established.
Always. There are three possibilities of the command of the militia. Number one, the county sheriff when he when he raises the posse, the posse, the possibility, the possible power of the county, the posse. Those are the militiamen of the county. The governor of your state, when he calls out a a militia when he calls the militia out, then he has authority over the militia or the president of The United States. When he calls the militia of a state out or any any group of states, he has authority over the militia, and they become members of the armed part a part of the armed forces of the United States. That's according to our constitution. The militia does not act on its own. You don't form a local militia like we saw this this crazy mad woman down in Kentucky bragging.
She had tattoos all over her hide, and she's smoking a cigarette and talking about how many men she commands. No. If there's men she commands, they're not men. Yeah. They're just following after a woman. There's a big difference. That that's not the militia. She's not the governor. She's not the sheriff, and she's not the president of The United States. Don't get caught up in this local militia stuff. Sheriff Darleaf made a good point, and you can prove this in history. If there's gonna be a problem with the militia in America, it's gonna be militia on militia because they're not under proper authority and command. Lawful. Let's use the word lawful authority and command.
That's what we try to stress. So when this happens, what it says here, when this happens, it'll be under proper authority and command. And, until that happens, I'm just standing by. I may be called to do something. I don't know. Is the price has the militia been called out lately in your county or your state? I dare say people don't even know what the militia is. Like I said a while ago, the militia is not something you join. The militia is something you're born into. If you're male and you reach age 20 and you're capable, able-bodied to carry a weapon in battle, military grade weapon, but then that's when you become part of the militia, and it's a matter of law. It's not a matter of volunteering or having a con Right. God said, that's who you are. Go ahead, Roger. No. I was just gonna say you could probably,
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in the word's not encrypt, but grab them and make them be in the militia.
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As a duty. As a duty. Oh, if you don't do it, no. Every state, they'll say that. You don't answer the call of sheriff when he calls out the posse. That's a crime. Yeah. You'll be you'll be penalized. Same thing with this with the governor and with the president. Go ahead, Roger. No. I'm because I believe the word you were looking for, Roger, was
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conscript. Conscription. What word are you looking for? Conscription. Yep. Thank you. You're right. I just, I just gotta go. You guys are welcome to stay around. I don't know what Brent's got going on. I know it's he likes to, interact with you. Right. So, but I'll see I'll see y'all tomorrow. Alright, Roger. Thank you, Brent.
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See you, Freddie. Bye. Have a nice day.
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Yeah. Alright. Did did somebody say my name? Yeah. Brent. A bunch of people did. Well, I can hear you. Enjoy your day. Yeah.
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May I ask? It's nice that we could say goodbye to Roger before jumping on Brent before Roger even hung up. That was that was Roger
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Roger's been helpful because he has helped maintain order, and that's important here. I appreciate it, but he he's got to go visit with his home because I'm talking about his ex his ex pats down there. So what is it on your mind, ma'am? What's your name?
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Hi. I'm Julie Brent. Nice to talk to you again.
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Hey. Live in.
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About those laws that are being rolled out right now.
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Well, it's not it's not signed in the law until congress is a Trump could sign all the things he wants to sign. That doesn't mean it's it's law. Congress has the power of legislation. The president doesn't have that power, and the courts have that power. So keep that in mind, although it's the clearly, I I don't know. Why do they call them Noah Hyde laws? That's just dumb. I mean, why don't I just call them the laws that God gave Noah? Where where it says Hyde business? That's, some Jewish stuff. So I don't know. I don't like to follow-up. Hide them. Wanna say things. To hide them from the public. It's deception. To hide Noah,
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hide the laws.
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Well Noah law is not hiding them. The coup. No. But the Jews are not hiding them. The Jewish rabbis went to the president and said, we're not hiding these. Here they are. So that that can't be mod what it means. They're not hiding Yeah. But everybody I think
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everybody I talk to doesn't know anything about them. They're like, what are those?
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Well, but no. I think but don't people know that, by who shed man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed? I know a lot of people have known that all of my life. Those are popular, well known verses, aren't they?
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Yeah. Absolutely. But I'm just talking from the standpoint that, you know, like, for example, in Germany right now, if you say anything about the Holocaust, you go straight to prison. They're rolling out all of these laws. If you say anything about Israel now that it's death to threaten by beheading, it's a one world order for one world government and a one world religion. That's what all the Noahide laws are are being rolled out.
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Well, no. The Noah the Noah what's they call the Noahide laws or the seven laws of Noah. The seven laws of Noah, we call them. They're not hidden. They've never been hidden. The Jews haven't tried to hide them. What the Jews wanna say is, we want all other people to be bound by these seven laws and, but we we know more. This is for the stupid people. This is for the women and the children and other mental deficient like the Talmud says. And so they want us to be bound by these to acknowledge it's just it's gobbledygook foolishness. The Bible I'm not saying you are, of course. I'm just saying the people to say this. The Bible is the revealed will of God, all of it. And the seven laws of Noah, as people call them, are also the revealed will of God as is the rest of the Bible. There's no distinction here between these laws. If you go to the law of Moses, as they call it, you'll find that murder is against the law and, you could be executed.
You go to the New Testament, you see the same thing. The laws of Noah say that too. So what's the what's the problem here? Why are we why are we isolating these and say for something special?
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So they just wanted your opinion. Just don't know.
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Bottom line. Bottom line. If you murder somebody, it's against the law. And that's what we were talking about today in, Romans 12, vengeance is mine. That's the whole context there is criminal jurisdiction over murder. And that's and and envy, envy and vengeance go together, and they always report in murder if you give them enough time. Well, that's what, these the law all of the Bible is a continuum, unbroken. Jesus Christ said scripture cannot be broken. You can't isolate one part of it and say it doesn't relate to another. That's not possible. Jesus Christ said that. I didn't say that. I know men that have written volumes. Well, I used to know them. They're gone now. Volumes on that one verse. Scripture cannot be broken. It can't be separated. It is a continuous chain.
It is all, one piece of cloth that doesn't have any seams in it. And the warp and the woof all strengthen it and all undergird each part of it together. It's not to be separated. Well, the Noahide laws are nothing but the law what God said to Noah when he got off the ark. That's all they are, but that's a lot. They're very important. For example, he says, do not eat blood. Do not drink blood. Well, why is it? Because the life of the flesh, the Bible says, is in the blood. And beside that, eating blood is not good for you. It's not healthy to eat blood and blood pudding and all that kind of stuff. Don't do that. So that's what the laws are. And, yeah, the rabbis have been in the Oval Offices of some presidents in the past and tried to get the president to sign some revolution acknowledging that. That's a clear violation of the first amendment to let a bunch of rabbis come in and get and and say we these are our laws, and we want you to sign them. You say they they include seven laws in the no eyed laws, and they're not they're not all that well, why should we pay it any attention to their division and understanding the Bible when they don't have the spirit of God?
They say that Jesus Christ, his mother was a whore, and he, who was impregnated by a Roman soldier that was garrisoned close by. And right now, they say, according to their writings, he's in, human sewage up to his neck, and the human sewage he is in is boiling. That's what they say about Jesus Christ. Now could you be more blasphemous than that? The Bible says, blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly. That's Psalms chapter one verse one. Blessed is the man. Happy. Good spell is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly. Well, who's the ungodly? I think we've been talking about them. What they say doesn't matter. We don't walk in their counsel. God's people don't listen to them. Get away from them. Don't pay any attention to them. Just leave them alone. Treat them as heathens and tax collectors like Jesus Christ says. So don't get caught up in this Noahide law. There is no such word in the Bible. Noahide.
Is that word in the Bible? Try to try to look it up and see if you can find what it means. And now some people say, Noachian Noachian laws. I've heard that word. That's the way you say Right. Why why say just say the laws of of Noah? Why why use all these fancy words that don't mean anything? That's more confusion that the empire wants to put on the Bible. Somebody yeah. Go ahead. Somebody's saying something.
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Yeah. I looked it up, and it's sons of Noah, and they consider themselves non Jewish.
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Who does?
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Noahides.
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Well, all of us that are sons of Noah, Noah is the second father of Adam's race. And if we're of Adam's race, we are sons of Noah. So what what are these people saying?
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That's what Noahide means according to them. It's sons of Noah, and they're non Jewish.
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Well, that that's just, that's just talk. I don't know what that means. I mean, I don't find anything in the Bible defines it. But go ahead. They're they're basing this on the Talmud and such. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. In other words, they come they just make it up as they go. That's what that means. I'm not exaggerating. Yeah. Over the centuries. Yeah. Well, thank Grant? Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead.
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I was supposed to remind you, about, a question on the judiciary and the masons, and I did talk to Joe. And he did say he had a retired he had a friend that was a retired judge, but he didn't know if he was a Mason or not. So he really didn't have any answers for me, and I just wanted your opinion last week on that you've dealt with a lot of judges over around the country. And I just want your opinion on do you think that do you have any suspicions, or do you have any knowledge that some of these judges are masons? And, I guess you don't Oh. I No.
Yeah. And I don't know if you know the oath of the Masons, but the Masons, you know, have a very if you break supposedly, if you break the the oath of of of masonry, you you can get your throat slit. So I'm just wondering if if if they are Masons, is there a oath higher than the oath they take to be a judge? I yield. Thank you so much.
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Well, ask yourself this question. If you're a Roman Catholic, is your commitment to the pope higher than your commitment to God or higher than your if your commitment to the pope, that's a commitment to the Vatican? You take an oath as a when you're confirmed, is that higher than your oath to your own country? What would you say?
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I would say yes.
[02:23:57] Unknown:
You're Yeah. That yeah. That's a real real problem. That's a real problem. And we're not paying attention. Let's get serious about life here. Who are you? What back to, we said a couple hours ago, loyalty. To whom do you, does God say you owe loyalty? Some religious leader someplace, I mean, or Hitler or the emperor of Japan or the boss in Russia or China. That's what they do. So if you and and Joe has confirmed, We appreciate it. One time Joe was on here, and he'd made comment that he was a Mason. And so I said, can I ask you some questions? And he said, sure. And we just had a quite a discussion, and I found out things I wondered about a long time. The oath you're talking about. Yes. But, is that, is that, is that in conflict with, such an oath if you're on the bench? Is that in conflict? Yes. Why? Well, because you're on the bench and you, Mason come before you and he's one of the parties in the case. Are you going to give him favor?
Are you going to favor his point of view? Look at him a little more liberally in your interpretation of the law, compared to the other fellow who has made it clear he's not a mason or he hates masonry or whatever. Is it does that happen? Of course it happens. Has it been happening? Yes. It's happened. How about on juries? Of course. What about in our military services? Oh, that's per been pretty big in past decades in our military services. I can tell you by personal experience that the Masons have sway in many areas or have had. I don't know what it is now. Our military services or courts, all that stuff is real. I've watched prosecutors stand at the stand while they're doing cross examination. And before they get started, put religious artifacts up on the stand, little trinkets and goofy stuff. Pertains to Judaism, Romanism, all that stuff. Oh, that's true. Don't tell me that your religion does not dictate your actions. It does.
It does. And everybody's got religion whether they understand it or not. It does. Yeah. Like Jonathan Edwards, the fellow I mentioned a while ago. He concluded, he wrote a book about it called religious affections, and he made the point that, religious affections are the springs of all human activity. All human action is the result of religious affections. It's quite a statement, but it's true. Absolutely true. According to the Bible and according to all experience, your deepest beliefs about reality and your existence will dictate what you say and what you do ultimately. And everybody's got them.
So when we talk about, when we talk about masonry, yeah, it's real. Those, those holes are real. And do people take them serious? Yes, they do. Why do men join masonry? Masonry different reasons. Joe gave us some of his. I appreciated that, and I understood it too, by the way. And, I'll I'll I'll I'll heard you. I'll let you talk just a minute. I'll let me finish this thought. People don't men, join these groups sometimes, a lot of times, because they're sick to death of the childishness, the effeminacy, the stupidity of the churches.
They wanna have real camaraderie about ultimate things with other men. That's why. In that in that sense, you can't blame them. Churches are no place to find manhood. No. They're effeminate. They're goofy. They're stupid. Not all of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And that's what most people see is just the most of them, and they just say, I'm not gonna be a part of this. Well, I wouldn't wanna be a part of it either. We have church on Sunday, and and we have it on Saturday. We teach the Bible among other platforms five days a week. And I get a lot of feedback from what I say. And I can report to you that a lot of people come to church with us on the Internet that have been in church all of their lives, and they don't wanna go to church in any of the churches around them. They're just fed up. I said, why are you here? Why don't you go to church, like other people do? Why do you come here?
I I I want somebody to talk about the Bible, and I wanna listen to somebody who's wrestled with it and tell me what they found. And so we come here because you do that. I'm just giving you a testimony, and I'm wrestling hard with it. I have for many decades, and I'm trying to find out what it says. And as I discover what I'm convinced of it's saying, then I say it. And, they don't get that in the church. They just get baloney. And so men, though, a lot of men, men, seek camaraderie. That's what the militia of the several States is, for as well, by the way. It's, an entrance into manhood. It's an important part of our culture.
God has given us institutions that provide this camaraderie. Men are to be the leaders. Men are to be the upfront men. Men, upfront people. The, the militia of the several states, the Bible calls it trans translated the people or my people. And they're the ones that are supposed to take the responsibility for what's going on. Are they doing it? No. They aren't. They're the ones that are supposed to catch the shrapnel and bullets if they ever come. Not their nieces, not their daughters, not their wives, no them. Are they doing it? No. They're promoting, as you know, quite another point of view. They're the ones that are supposed to risk take the risk of being in government, in the legislature, in the courts fighting, and the risk that are attended to that. And there's a lot of risk. It's pretty brutal. But what do they do instead? They send their wives and their nieces and their daughters.
What what have we turned into? And that's why men join these organizations, by the way. Men need the camaraderie that God provides in these in these, organizations. Hang on just a minute. I've got a, somebody else.
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Yeah. I just wanted to ask one last question, Brent. I don't know if you can hear me with your, distract whatever you're doing. That's fine.
[02:29:58] Unknown:
Well, I can hear you. Go ahead.
[02:30:01] Unknown:
Can a judge act in honor if he's a mason and act act with clean hands? You'll appreciate your answer.
[02:30:11] Unknown:
Well and the answer is yes. He can. And I'll tell you why I say that. There's not a man. We went over we've stressed this while ago just to bring the principle back. There's not a man among us who's a good man according to the bible. There are men among us that God is taken out of our sins. He's taken us out of the sewer and and decency, and we're we're on that road. We're right headed. There are men like that. There are men that are Romanist like Justice Scalia that have one foot in Babylonianism and the other foot in truth. There and there are Christian men. And my, studied opinion just watched and listened to him, but it it created a conflict. There are men that are masons that are doing a lot of things, but it inevitably creates a conflict. I would just ask you, what have you got in your life that's crowding the spirit of God? What have I got in my brain that's crowding the spirit of God? I'm sure it's something more than I ought to have there. We all have that. God can use anybody. God makes straight licks with crooked sticks. Don't look for perfection. No. No. No. No. Look for right headed men.
God's people are headed in one direction, and all of the rest of all other men are a 80 degrees headed in the other. That's it. Either you're headed in the right direction or you aren't. Either you're tending in the right direction or you aren't. And God saves you, and he gives you right headedness. And that's what that Hebrew word means, and that's what that Greek word in the New Testament translated righteousness. It means right headedness. That's what that old English word means. We're right headed. If we're Christian folk, that's a good thing. We should be pretty happy about it. But don't get the idea that you're you haven't got conflicts in your life. I know you don't. I'm not saying you do again. I'm speaking to a broad audience because you raised the question, and it's a good point. And we need to be asking that question. What kind of perfection are we looking for? Is DJ Trump running for Sunday was he running for Sunday school superintendent or president of The United States? Is he Jesus Christ or a mortal who's wound up and bound up in his own whims and difficulties probably more than most of us? And the answer is the latter. Yes. He's wound up and bound up in his own whims and difficulties more than us. But god says, I'm the one that makes straight licks with crooked sticks. I'll use you that way too. And he will. He will. Look at look at Noah. Look at Noah. You know, he made that ark. He, he he, he just concentrated on saving his family. He didn't worry about saving the world. And he he did save the race of Adam because he tried to save his family. Then he he gets off the arc. What's the first thing that happens? Pretty quick. You remember?
He gets drunk. That's and then the trouble starts, you know, and it just and it just gets worse from there. But God saves a man. He picks men out from among others, and he sets them on solid ground. And I assume I'm well, I am. I'm addressing those people, whoever they are. You got ears to hear. You got eyes to see. God's enlightened your mind, the spirit of God. I'm talking to you. Those are the only people I get they're gonna understand anything I say anyway if I'm talking about the things of God. So I'm not targeting anybody else. They can listen if they want, but I'm talking to you. And, I I'm assuming, and I think I'm getting that, some of you, the indications are, you're a kindred spirit with me. And that's we're we got our noses headed in the same direction.
By the way, I said the other day I heard this a little, drop on a footnote here. I heard, from Paul English, and I heard his wife passed away. And she'd been, he had been her her caretaker for a long time, and she was to where she couldn't take care of herself and had dementia. And I got word, and and I I didn't know what to say to him. What do you say to people that lose their spouse of many years? And you you struggle. What can I I don't wanna be I don't wanna have some pious platitudes or quote a verse or I thought, what can I say? And I said, well, he's a kindred spirit, and I get depression from what I gather. His head is, headed in his nose, headed in the same direction as me. I've listened to him talk about it. And so I'd identified with him. I think when people go through rough times, he's doing pretty good, by the way. He said, I'm okay, Brent. I said, good. And, you know, it's one of those things that matter of fact, he said, there's relief. There's grief with relief.
And, he had grief, and he has grief now, but he has relief because of the onerous nature of his wife's condition condition. So I report things are good, though, with him. He told me everything's fine, Brent. I got more gumption than I ever had. I said good. And, but I I the point I'm making is I I didn't he identified him as a kindred spirit because we need to know there are others with us in times of grief. That's what I'm saying. And when I listen to you folk talk, I I sensed that you're interested in the Bible, and that's a that's a sign of the spirit of God working in your life.
Back to you. Did I lose you? Somebody out there? Hello? Maybe I did. Oh, here I am. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. You're here. You're here with us.
[02:35:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I, as I study more and more, I I realized that, you know, being in the flesh, we take the Bible as if what's being said is is always fleshly right. Well, there's a whole lot of spirit going on, and in in translating, do you get that feeling that oftentimes these these things are more spiritual than they are physicals when they're making references like hating and such like that?
[02:36:15] Unknown:
No and yes. Let me say it this way. There's too much spiritualizing going on, and spiritualizing to us who live in the real tangible world is meaningless, really. In other words well, those people say to me and I'm not stepping on your toes here. I I think I grasped what you're saying, and I'll get to that. So I I think and I I can identify, and and you're asking me a question. I appreciate it. But I I think that we are too quick because we don't know what else to say, and it's a Christian platitude to say, well, he's not spiritual enough. And then I say to the people like that, well, what are you talking about? What do you mean when you say that? Does that mean he's not applying the word of God to his life in the world? Well, I guess, yeah, that's what I mean. Well then why don't you say so? Why do you, why do you spiritualize? The Bible doesn't do that. The Bible never says it that way.
Everything about the Bible is in the flesh here, and everything is tangible. Jesus Christ did not resurrect in the spirit. That was a bodily tangible event. In the flesh as Paul or John says in first John, he who does not confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh is is an of the spirit of antichrist. So the flesh is imminently important. That's where we live. But to get to your point, our flesh is a function of a spiritual reality. The spiritual reality is not a function of the flesh. Our flesh, our tangible world is a result of the spirit of God himself.
God is spirit. Who's ever seen the spirit? You can't the spirit. You can't smell it. She can't taste it. She can't touch it. Well, what can you do? Well, you can see what the spirit of God does. I can watch the wind blow the trees and blow the limbs and I can watch the wind blow the Johnson grass, but I can't see the wind. It's that kind of a thing. I can see what the spirit of God does And the Bible tells me how to discern the product, the actions of the spirit of God. But I tend in my own mind as I read the Bible to see that the Bible is imminently geared toward the tangible and tangible bodily obedience.
Present your bodies as not a dead sacrifice, but a living sacrifice to God, which is the only reasonable thing you can do, which that's what it says. It's to be true. We cannot cannot offer up anything of the spirit. We can't put our hands on the spirit. Do we have a spirit? Yes. Do we have the spirit of God in our bodies? Yes. How do you get under the influence of the spirit? Well, Paul says it this way, be not drunk with wine. This is an he's analog analogizing to liquor, be not drunk with wine, but be filled with a spirit. Well, how do you get under the influence of liquor?
You pop the cork and you pour it down your gullet. That's how you get under the influence of liquor. That influence is a very negative influence. You lose all discernment and judgment at some point, and then you pass out and you say things you wish you hadn't said, and you do things that are stupid and are not dignified. Okay. I don't want that be not drunk with wine, but on the contrary, be under the influence instead of being under the influence of liquor, be under the influence of the spirit of God. Well, how do you do that? Well, you've got to get the spirit of God inside of you. Well, how does that happen?
Well, when you see the calculus of what the Bible says and you add it all together and you study it and look at it. Oh, I get it. You put the word of God in you. That's what you do. That gives the spirit of God who that is in you by the by the sovereign power of God. The spirit of God is in the believer lives in his in his brain, lives in his flesh, and in his body. And then you provide the word of God more the word of God. And then the spirit of God has the handle to move your body, to move your tongue, to move your legs, to protect you from evil. That's the enjoyment of the Christian life. That's why we need the word of God to reiterate that again. It always comes back to these fundamentals, but no, we're not looking number one. We're not looking for the perfect man. We're looking for the right headed man. The kindred spirit that's on the same road going the same direction. Like Christian was on the same road with his companion, faithful and pilgrims progress and it didn't last forever, but they were on the same road for awhile. I had, well, I've had people say to me, well, we're on the same road. We're walking the same direction. As long as that is true, let's keep walking.
How can two men, let's get this together here from the Bible. How can two men, the Bible says, walk together unless they be agreed? That's right. How can a man and a woman walk together unless they be agreed at the fundamental point? They can't. They'll either. They'll if they cannot agree on a common external standard whereby to govern their relationship, then they will either fight and eventually they will have to fight until one of them can't fight anymore. Sometimes that results in death. That's called war. That's what happens. Can't agree on a common external standard whereby to govern their relationship. Christian men have the same common external standard called the word of God, the laws of nature, and the laws of nature is God.
And we can agree. We will look at the Bible and you know, you look at the Bible and I say, well, we agree. It says that. Yeah. That's what it says. Well, I don't understand it, but we both agree. That's what it says. That's the way it is. Well, that, that means you can walk together. See, I found that to be true in all of my life. I know a lot of Christian folk. We we agree on the Bible as a fundamental standard. Sometimes we disagree, of course, upon how it is to be applied in any particular instance. But we both say, well, nope. Hey. Hey. If that's what it says, that's it. You know, we we agree that way. You know? And I assume you folk are here. A lot of you, you say, well, I can listen to Brent because I agree with him on this one point. The Bible is the final court of last resort. I may not agree with everything Brent says or how he says it. Maybe I think he's too gruff. Maybe I think he's wrong on this application, but we do agree on this that the common external standard called the Bible is the court of last resort in all matters of living.
And so we we can keep walking in the same direction on that and probably find a lot of other things too. Now back to you.
[02:42:44] Unknown:
Hey, Brent.
[02:42:46] Unknown:
I'm here.
[02:42:48] Unknown:
Yeah. To impeach a judge, can anybody like us impeach a judge? Is is there a process? Do you know?
[02:43:02] Unknown:
A process for what?
[02:43:04] Unknown:
Impeaching a judge. Can anybody impeach a judge if they are wrongful?
[02:43:11] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. And your local state, your state legislature has power of impeachment or some part of your state legislature. And if you're if you're a federal judge, then the house of representatives has the power of impeachment.
[02:43:31] Unknown:
And do they just say you're impeached? Do they just say you're impeached, or is there some process they have to follow the legislature or the,
[02:43:42] Unknown:
the other one? Yeah. They take a vote. Yeah. They take a vote. A vote? Take a vote. Yeah. And if they vote, it's like a grand jury indictment. Impeachment is the same thing as a grand jury indictment. And if they vote to impeach somebody, that means they have caught them by the foot. That's what the word means, to catch by the foot. Like eenie, meenie, minie, moe, catch I shouldn't say this, but by the toe, left something out. But yeah. Well, that that's what impeachment is, is to catch a person and hold them for trial. So if the House of Representatives impeaches a federal judge, then he will be tried before the Senate of the United States.
And if they, they'll take a vote. And if they vote to convict him, then he's thrown out of office. That's the way that works.
[02:44:33] Unknown:
I do you know do you think you know some p do you know some judges you would like to see impeached? You don't have to say their names. I was just wondering. Oh, no. I would just like to know. Do you Yeah.
[02:44:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I do. Right. Uh-huh. There's some that definitely should be. No question. They're lawless. And then after they're impeached, maybe they need to be prosecuted by a local prosecutor for a crime and, sentenced. I don't know. There's, yeah, there's, men are not good. That's why we have juries. We don't trust judges, so we have juries. That's why we have them. Yeah. But we need judges. We need judges. They do their jobs sometimes. I I recognize that.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
Yeah. What what percentage of judges do you think should be impeached?
[02:45:35] Unknown:
I don't have any idea. I just know this. Congress should do it more often than they do it. That keeps the judges on their toes. They don't get so arrogant. Yeah. By the way, impeachment yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Alright. You were gonna say you all for
[02:45:55] Unknown:
What was the last thing you were gonna say about impeachment? Sorry. I said something.
[02:46:00] Unknown:
Oh, I just Sorry. I interrupted Impeach power of impeachment and conviction under impeachment is only removal of office. It's not it's not a conviction of any crime. It's just removal from office. That's the end of it. Congress Congress has no jurisdiction to, to convict anybody of a crime and have them sentenced.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:46:25] Unknown:
Yep. Excuse me, Brent.
[02:46:27] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:29] Unknown:
I had I had a question some time ago. I kinda kinda sorta got lost in the fray. Sketch was asking about, if, judges or masons, which oath they take would take precedence, and you had a great answer. That would be the the oath that they give to the country, to their country. Yeah. What about Jewish judges and, a potential conflict between the oath they took, if they did, and the last time they did the kol Nidre?
[02:47:06] Unknown:
What In other words there's a conflict there? Oh, there is a conflict. No question. If your religion, whatever your religion is, if your religion is not Christianity, then the common law tradition is not your law. If you're you're you have a particular law giver and your response to that law giver is your religion. Whoever your law your final arbiter of right and wrong is could be a statue of of something, like a Buddha or something, all these weird idolatry, could be the sun, the moon, and the stars. Maybe you follow your horoscope every day, and that's your final decider. You put more stock in that than anything else that's called worship. Could be the pope of Rome, could be a rabbi, could be a college professor, could be your own father, could be the Supreme Court of the United States, could be a philosopher like Nietzsche or somebody or Kant or somebody like that. Whatever it is, it could be yourself, living or dead, something, a Ouija board.
Well, that's your final decider. Then that's your religion. You meet, you wanna know what your religion is. You just decide you stop and think about it. Who for me in my life is the final arbiter of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. The court of last resort that gives us the decision and doesn't owe an explanation to anybody. That's arbiter. Well, you decide who that is. You show me your log. That's your law giver. You show me your law giver and I'll show you your God. And I'll also show you your law. You have a different law giver than me. You got, you got a different law, Our common law tradition here in America, the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god is final. You know, interesting. You read William Blackstone. He goes into great detail describing law and describing the sources of our law, which are the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god, our common law, and the Bible.
He goes to great detail defining that. And the nation, where Blackstone gave those lectures in 1765, not a couple of centuries before, there was a king there who came to that same problem. And, he was want to wanting to divorce his wife, an evil thing to do. Couldn't the pope of Rome wouldn't go along with it, and that upset him. And so finally, he was hunting. And when the king was out hunting in those days, back in the fifteen hundreds, and he came by somebody's house to get something to eat, they just well, they'd stop everything, put a spread on for him, you know. And then he did that. He stopped at the fellow's house. They put a big spread on him. And this fella had a a, a tutor there. He was homeschooling his children. He was a pretty wealthy man. He hired this priest, this other Roman priest to homeschool his children. He needed a job. He was brand new priest, young fellow.
And when the King Henry the eighth came by, he was hunting. I had supper dinner or whatever it was. This priest was sitting at the table and he was blowing and going about how the Pope wouldn't let him divorce his wife and all that baloney. And this little, this priest, this young, priest said, well, gee, why are you asking all the priesthood? Why don't you just ask the Bible scholars at Oxford? And he said it very respectfully in passing. Nobody knew he was, he became famous later because Henry the eighth tapped into him again. And the light went on in Henry's head. He said, what? Oh, I never thought of that. Why would I ask Rome when the final authority ought to be the Bible? I mean, he was even thinking that back then people did think those kinds of things. So he went to Oxford and he told the fellows that studied the Bible, said, I want you to come up with the answer. Can I divorce this woman? Now the important point here is whether or not they said he could or couldn't. The important point is that as, the King of England said, I'm gonna take the Bible for the court of last resort.
A result of that as time went on was that Henry broke from Rome and the Bible Protestantism became the religion Anglicanism. The church of England became official. Rome had no more power. They did a great study on the monasteries, found out all the sexual perversion that was going on inside of them, and he shut them all down, every last one of them, all the nunneries, all the monasteries. I mean, Rome was gone. They lost their income. Rome owned a third to a half of all the land in England, and they got all the income from that. And they raised armies, and they're at that time had an army in France getting ready to invade England. He said, well, this is dumb. That's like we're sending money to Al Qaeda. I forget how many billions it was we were sending. And the Supreme Court of the United States said, yeah. You gotta keep sending it. Well, they're raising raising military men to commit acts of terrorism against us. So Trump said, well, I'm cutting that off. You know, I said, dumb, Preston. Mhmm. Respond violence against us. Well, that's what was happening. Well, same thing was happening back then. But the idea came along that the Bible is final. So what Henry finally did was he got to thinking more this he said this the more he thought about it, this is ridiculous. The all the priests all the Roman priests in England have a duty of loyalty to their country, but they take this oath to die for the pope.
That can't be. That's a conflict of loyalty. That's that's watering down. Which which is it? Is it England, or is it the Vatican? Which is it? So we gathered together 200, about 200 of the most prominent priests in England, and he was up on a little high platform in a room where they were crowded in. And he said, well, here's the setup, boys. You took an oath to a foreign power. That's treason. That's treason against the crown of England. Loyalty divided is no loyalty at all. All of you. It made it and say it. He didn't say it, but it was obvious. It was, you felt like you get your heads chopped off. Although he didn't say that. He said that's treason against the crown.
So here's what we're gonna do. You just stay right, put in your jobs. The Pope has no more authority over you. I do. And this is the church of England. Like it says in Magna Carta, the church of England, not the church of Rome, the church of England. I'm the I'm the head now. You boys have two choices. You can object to what I'm doing. Or you can tell me if you want to follow your oath to the Vatican. And if you, and you did take this oath, he's, he added this too. You took the oath. You're guilty of treason. Does anybody have anything to say?
Of course. I mean, if you were in the crowd, would you say anything? Would you jump up and say, here I am. I'm the spokesman here. Nobody said a word. And the people that were there said you could hear a pin drop. He waited a little bit and he said, okay, I will deem silence to be agreement that you're guilty. Here's what I want. And he told how much silver he wanted from each of them. And he knew they were all wealthy as wealthy could be. And, he find them heavily and turn them back loose. And that was the beginning of the church of England, and Protestantism has been the official religion of that country ever since.
And that that's how God works and uses evil men to accomplish I mean, we are separated from the tyranny of Imperial dictatorial religion, namely Rome in America because of Henry the eighth and Henry the eighth, murdered three of his six wives. He was a nasty man. He talked about being wound up and wound up in your own whims and difficulties and no, no confidence. Well, that was Henry the eighth. He was, he was dangerous because he had no confidence as a man. Well, God knew him anyway. And God can you if he can use him, he can use me. But yeah, that loyalty thing is big as a lawyer. The biggest thing in being a lawyer is you can't have divided loyalty.
That's not possible. You You can't have divided loyalty. If that happens, you could get your license suspended or be disbarred if it's discovered, that you're trying to represent two people that have conflicting interests. That's a fact. Well,
[02:55:20] Unknown:
you set you you set up with what you just said. You just set up my next comment just so beautifully because you covered idolatry and idol worship. You covered evil. You covered England. You covered, it was brought to my attention that there are, a couple of KFC commercials for The UK, that are on YouTube. And, they're they're despicable, they're sickening, they're sad, they're blasphemous. They're, funny, but yet not the least bit funny. And, basically, the first commercial is ninety seconds long, and it's a bunch of people kind of doing this, like, kinda warped twisted chicken like dance.
And then the commercial ends with all of these people doing this chicken like dance coming together around this circular platform. And, they begin to idolize a golden chicken, But it's a real chicken. It's a it's a goldish brown chicken. And the the tagline is believe in chicken. And that's not even the worst one. The second one, which is two minutes long, it's number two, it's all of these people in the woods that are that are holding aloft and worshiping a giant golden egg, a giant golden egg. And they're they're lifting it they're lifting it toward the sky, and they're bouncing it on the ground, and and they're all circling around it, and they're they're joyously chanting and everything else. And the culmination of that one is a woman is carrying a guy out into the lake and baptizes the guy in gravy, and he emerges from the lake as a chicken tender.
And the tagline again, believe in chicken.
[02:57:36] Unknown:
That's a 10 an advertisement for a chicken restaurant or something?
[02:57:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Kentucky fried chicken.
[02:57:43] Unknown:
Oh, Kentucky fried. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. That's that's borderline,
[02:57:51] Unknown:
repulsive. Yeah. I agree with you for sure. Yeah. Is it it's well, it's not it's oh, man. It is sacrilege.
[02:57:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Cleaning.
[02:58:02] Unknown:
Yeah. It's not something to play with. And I've I've seen people suffer. Paul the over things like that. Paul the Apostle says some of that have done that and they haven't taken the the Lord's Supper seriously. Some of you are sick, he says, and some of you are dead. Right. Yeah. I don't do that. And I've seen in my life things happen to people, and I can't say for sure, well, God did this because he did that. But what I see is just the sequence. He did this and then this horrible thing. One of the things that I've watched, for example, I've watched people play act death, Play act death in a play or in a some kind of a presentation at school or Mhmm. And, I've seen the most horrible things happen over that. You don't do things like that.
You stay away from that. Just stay away from it. It's God is real, and he reveals himself, and you have to have eyes to see to see it, but he's real and he's dangerous. And he's loving, of course, but he's dangerous. And he can make life miserable in it.
[02:59:05] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:59:06] Unknown:
That's my plan. Words and your intent, can have an effect on the manifestation of your physical life.
[02:59:16] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah.
[02:59:18] Unknown:
Well, your energy, that's where you're gonna be.
[02:59:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That's what worship is. Worship is an old Anglo Saxon word that used to be pronounced worthy ship. What is worthy of your time and money and your attention? Worthy ship. Mhmm. That's what you worship. Now you call it what you want. Oh, I'm not worshiping. Well, are you giving your time, your money, and your attention to it? Well, then you must think it's worthy. Worthy, that's worship. That's what it is. Well, again, thank you all. I I I'm gonna quit. Yeah. I I've been here long enough. Done all the damage I can do. So Thank you, man.
[02:59:57] Unknown:
Hello. This hello. This is Chris. This is Chris. Hey, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I saw, I saw a, an advert a commercial on on a station at a hospital yesterday. And in the commercial, we have these guys kissing each other. These guys should be strung up. And this company is they're promoting some kind of, oh, promoting a drug that helps people with HIV.
[03:00:40] Unknown:
It was Yeah. Sickest
[03:00:42] Unknown:
sickest commercial I've ever seen. Just just absolutely sick.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's repulsive. And that's that's the state of man, that has, gone in what Romans one says is the fag end. The Greek word means the fag end. What's that? That's the final burning piece of a of a piece of wood, and it's just smoking and it's all burnout. That when you see homosexuality, that's what you're looking at according to the Bible. Read Romans chapter one. It gives you the progression of how men or a man or a woman, descends into homosexuality, the pit of human existence. Paul the apostle presents it there. That's not me. Yeah. I'm just referring you to the word of God. I found if I refer people to the word of God and say it's not me, that's not my here's what it says, then that's really where the power is, not me saying it and not people thinking it's my opinion. I've got to point back to that and say I spend my time with the book. I come to these conclusions, and it's important by nature to you. Maybe you know Romans one, maybe you don't, but it's still abhorrent to you because God has put that in us just as as as as sons of Adam.
We know. But to drive it home even further on how it worked, we read the word of God in his particular revelation. He tells us how this comes about and how it happens, and the Bible tells us how it begins. It begins by people looking at the laws of nature and creation around them, God revealing himself to them in the stars and the heavens and in and in the beauty of creation, and then denying it and saying there is no God. That's where it begins according to Paul the Apostle. And then he gives you the next step and the next step and the next step. Then he says, they, now having rejected the maker of all things, they start worshiping, created things instead of the creator himself.
Living in dead statues and idols and trinkets and goofy stuff pictures and and then, then also animals and four footed beast. And like, they do in India, they worship the cow. And then, the woman, then the woman, he says the next step, you can go follow it there. She leaves the natural use of the woman, and she does it at the, encouragement and the okay of the man. That's where it really gets ugly and starts getting uglier after that. The the more that women and men do not distinguish their roles according to God's law, God's standard, the more abuse of women and the more pedophilia and abuse of children we will have, and there's no denying it. It's bigger now than it's ever been, and we've denied the roles more now than we ever have, and that's what will happen. Romans one lays it out in detail how it happens. All All the rest of the Bible also supports Romans one.
That's where Paul takes unbelief, and he takes it there step by step real quick. Go read it. I'll give an assignment. We come back next time, all you folk that are engaged and listening and are talking or both, go read Romans one, read it every day. Romans one every day, every morning when your mind is fresh, won't take you long. Read that chapter every day until we meet again next week. And let's talk about it. And I'm gonna see what you say about it. It's gotta be personal to you. It can't be just listening to me. You know? If it's not personal to you, it's not gonna do your life any good. So you go figure you go figure what you think it means by what it says, and let's talk about it. Maybe that's a good assignment, Paul. You can help us help us maybe remember. I hope we remember it. If people do that, take it to heart. Yeah. And every time you read it memory.
[03:04:13] Unknown:
Who oh, you do it. Memory. It's just really short. This is just really short. It may last until next week, but there's no guarantee.
[03:04:25] Unknown:
I like that. That's me too. Alright. I'm checking out. Can I check out now? Appreciate y'all. Let's do this. Thank you. Appreciate you all, and, let's acknowledge the God that made us real quick. And, short prayers are for public, long prayers are for private, the closet. Let me do a short prayer. Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, and thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, our trespasses in the same way you free or we forgive the trespasses of others again us.
Do not bait us with temptation, but snatch us from the evil one. For thine is the kingdom and the monopoly of raw power and force and the glory and the splendor forever and ever. We ask these things in the authority of your holy son, Jesus the Christ. Amen. Alright. Thank you very much. And, Amen. God's bro. Yeah. God's speed. God's speed till next week.
[03:05:47] Unknown:
Amen, Brian. Thank you. Bye. Thank you.
[03:05:50] Unknown:
Bye. Amen. Thank you.
[03:05:54] Unknown:
Alright. And that is it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and cohost Brent Winters. Happens every Friday right here on eurofoolkradio.com and Global Voice Radio Network, also on radiosoapbox.com and a plethora of other platforms. For more information on the topics discussed, go to the matrixdocs.com. You will also find links to free conference calls, and you can join us live on the show and ask, mister Winters, or mister Sales' questions. Make comments, or just listen. Sandbag for a while. Back at lunch. Stay the day. Thanks for catching us.
Catch us right back here tomorrow for the Sabado edition from 11AM to 1PM eastern on radiodots. Global Voice Radio Net and EuroFolkRadio.com. Thanks so much. We'll catch you right back here next time. Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network. Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
[03:07:13] Unknown:
Nice. I was trying to, get a birth certificate authenticated, and the lady said, oh, what nation do you want it for? I said, The United States. Oh, we don't do those. So I don't know if anybody's gotten their birth certificate authenticated by their state, by the state where, birth certificate the certificate of live birth was issued from, or if it's even necessary. But, was there anything that you wrote to do that? Or please advise.
[03:07:54] Unknown:
I have a comment. Your reply might have been the nation and where I was born, not the state of, but the state. That's all I got.
[03:08:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Because, I mean, yeah, they're federal basically, they're they're authenticating something that's federalized. Right? The birth certificate in federal instruments. That's why I said United States and not United States Of America, but they're so used to foreign country, you know, apostilles and and, depending if it's Hague or not and often, authentication that I'm not sure that maybe I just have to elevate it, you know, on their customer service. But
Introduction and Co-host Brent Winters
Discussion on God's Love and the Bible
Trusting God's Will and the Bible
The Role of Men and Women in Society
Loyalty and Common Law Tradition
God's Election and Love
Hate and Love in Christianity
Vengeance and God's Justice
Self-defense and Militia Duty
Masonry and Loyalty Conflicts
Religious Affections and Loyalty
