In this episode of the Radio Ranch Friday edition, Roger Sayles hosts a lively discussion with Brent Winters and Francine, touching on a variety of topics from the weather in South America to the intricacies of common law and the nature of government. Brent Winters shares insights into the historical and legal foundations of the United States, emphasizing the importance of common law and the role of juries in maintaining freedom. The conversation also delves into the cultural practices of siestas in South America and the historical context of high school education in America.
The episode further explores the complexities of financial systems, including the use of birth certificates and the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) in accessing financial remedies. Listeners are treated to a deep dive into the philosophical and practical aspects of law, governance, and personal sovereignty, with Brent Winters providing a wealth of knowledge on the subject. The discussion is interspersed with anecdotes and personal stories, making for an engaging and informative listen.
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And here we are again. So would we, Alvin. Gonna try. We're gonna we're gonna lean on Brent Winters today, see if he can help us. So here we go on the Friday edition. Brent, if he's not here, we'll be here shortly. I think I see Francine up there. So it's the Friday edition, Rogers Sales Radio Ranch with Brent and Francine, and it is the March 14. And, wow. We're clipping right along. We are, on a number of platforms, I think, today, and mister Paul Beaner is the one that's the keeper of said platforms, and he's the one that helps give them credit for assisting us in spreading our message. Don't you, Paul?
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Yes. I do. I well, I attempt to do that anyway.
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No. I think you do a good job of it.
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Did a great, great show yesterday. It was Wow. Was it? Okay. Holy Ghost Live. And, he's gonna try and, join us today. Oh, it's always a second hour.
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Okay. Well, we always welcome him, so that'd be good. Yep.
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So the, website is the matrixdocs,d0cs,.com, and there is a new student section. It's in red. Underneath the blue box in the upper right hand corner, it says new students click here. And the the first part of that page is is, like, all the key resources for and interviews for new folks that, are joining us. Let's see. That's it. And I have I I do believe that mister Winters
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has joined us. I think he did. I think he pulled in. He hitched his horse up out there. Hey. Morning, Brent. Morning, Francine. Morning, audience. Doing alright this morning, Brent, I hope. Yeah. How are you, Roger? No. I'm pretty good all in all. We got a little sunshine this morning. That's a nice change. Yeah. What's going on? We're in our we're in our winter season down here. March and April is kind of the rainy season they call it. It's just man, we have had nothing but clouds for, like, two weeks. Maybe occasionally a little sun, but yesterday is like cold, really cold for here and, rainy and all that yesterday. So, anyway, I hope we'll pull out of this pretty quick, which I think we will.
So, anyway, that's about how I'm doing.
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Well, for those of you that maybe don't know, Roger, the man I'm talking to, lives right almost on top of the Equator in South America. Yeah. So when I asked him about the weather, I really want to understand. And it's an unusual place near Quito, Ecuador. Never been there myself. Yeah. Mhmm. But Roger's there, and he he learned to talk Spanish real good. And Well, I don't know about that now. Don't go out on a limb. Better than us Americans. And he hangs out he hangs out with a lot of expats from America down there. They get together once a week and have a little,
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breakfast or something. No. A little lunch. A little lunch. A little lunch. A little that's a for the uninitiated, that's Almorso
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is one. And then you have to take a break because the whole blasted country goes into remission and takes a siesta for a couple of hours. They don't do that here too much.
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They do it in Argentina. This is not necessarily a siesta country. And even if you're in a siesta country, if it's in one of the main cities where business is done, they probably will not honor that. Some might, but not most, you know, chasing the well, chasing the almighty dollars, their deal. You know? Uh-huh.
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Well, I never thought about it, but is siesta a Spanish custom from the old country?
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Yes. Oh. Now they really recognize it in Argentina except for in Buenos Aires. K? But the rest of the country, and I mean at 12:30, all of the stores have some sort of metal or gate or something in front of them, so there's no breaking glass and looting. I don't know what that's hungover from. Part of this is just the Spanish culture from what I've come to understand. Like, for example, if you're building a house here, you'll build a wall around the lot before you'll start building the house. And everything is pretty much walled, in the residential sections. And, and, that taking the stores offline at 01:00 or 12:30 might be the same thing. But, anyway, they start pulling down the metal or the gates or whatever they've got. And by one, everything's closed up except for, well, where I was.
The main grocery store didn't close and a couple of kiosks didn't close, and the gas stations didn't close. So those are the three thing everybody else, was shut down till five. Now there's got some really interesting ramifications, really. I would have never known this had I not lived there. But in down there, three hundred and sixty five days a year, every that whole family gets together for lunch. And if that forms an unbreakable bond with the family down there, I I don't know if the new world order could even break that up, quite frankly. And then they eat lunch, and then some of them may go siesta, some of them go exercise, ride bikes.
I always thought that about half the country was probably procreated at siesta. And, then at 05:00, everything opens up except for government offices and banks. Then everything goes till 09:00. So the restaurants don't there's a couple of savvy restaurants that are open at 08:00 for the extra gringos because we don't like eating that late. Most of us don't. And, but the other restaurants don't open till 09:00. And so it shifts the whole day, and it's kinda interesting. It's like living on a double shift.
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Do you wanna look at it anyway?
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Yeah. Of course, as I get older, I understand why people wanna take a nap at Well noon thereafter.
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Right. Well, they're up in the High Desert, man. It gets a hundred and five, a hundred and ten in the afternoon. They gotta get out of that sun.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. But for some reason, it's not part of the English speaking world to do that on an official Mhmm. Way. We we power through, sleepy times. And after you eat a big meal do they eat a big meal at dinner time down there? The main meal of the day is lunch,
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and then dinner is a secondary meal.
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Well, that explains it then. I didn't know that. Yep. I I remember when I was a teenager, we'd be out in the field farming, and my mother would come by with a big meal. And that was our big meal was dinner time. And supper was supper, and that, you know, wasn't a big deal. But she'd throw a quilt out on the grass on the edge of the field, and we'd all shut down our machines and come running up there. Of course, being boys, we were so hungry we couldn't see straight, and we'd plow into the macaroni and cheese and the chicken or whatever she had there, mashed potatoes, gravy, and we'd settle on the blanket neat. And, then I'd get on I crawl back onto the tractor, and I'd be driving down through the field, and the wind would be behind me just about one mile an hour faster than the tractor would run. So that dust just slowly engulfed me, and the sun was beating down on me.
My head would start bobbing, and then I heard something slamming the side of the tractor. And I woke up, and I looked over. My granddad was going the other way, and he had to put a pile of hard dirt clogs up on the platform of his tractor to throw at me to wake me up. We go back and forth. You know? And he finally said my granddad said, grandpa Charles Melvin is his name. Said, now Brent, get down to end the field. He said, if you really gotta sleep and you can't stay awake, I don't want you piling that rig up in the fence row. So you get off of the tractor and lay down for five minutes. I mean, let go entirely, or you can just sit on the tractor, put your arms and your head on the wheel, but you gotta let go entirely. You can't try to stay awake. You gotta let go.
And if you do that for five minutes, you'll crawl back on the tractor, and you'll you'll be awake, and it'll be and I learned to do that, and it worked well. But it's more important to take that five minutes or maybe ten minutes and let go when I get tired, and then I can get up and I go back to work. And I'm still doing that, by the way, when I get hit that way. And if I eat the wrong thing at noontime, like some heavy or heavy meal. You know? Yes. Of course. That'll happen to you. I didn't understand that when I was a boy. You know, I just keep plowing ahead no matter what it did, I thought. But I understand the siesta and and what's behind it if that's the noon if the noon meal is a big one. I get it now. Yep. You just taught me something. Yep. I appreciate that. But, yeah, we do that. I went out the big meal isn't so much, where I'm from. It was always at noontime in the Midwest. And, I don't know that true anymore in Midwest. But to me another
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Go ahead. Another interesting difference between the two. I would never known. Down here, none of the sports teams and, you know, soccer's big and all that. Yeah. None of the sports teams are affiliated with a college, school, or university. They're all private clubs, and all of ours are. You know? So that's a pretty big difference.
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Uh-huh. Uh-huh. No. That that is different. Now high school and I don't know how all this all figures in. I keep learning, but, I did discover that, Scottish people invented high school. And they called it they called it adult education. Because nobody thought about going to school even in America. My parents didn't go to school, and my uncles and all that. And granddad, they didn't go to school past the eighth grade. Didn't see a reason to. You know? The law at that time, I think, said they had to, but they didn't because they couldn't. I mean, there was no way to get to town anyway. And when they tried to, some of them, it didn't work out. And, so they just didn't go. And I did have a my my father's sister, she moved to town, got a room, rented a room, which some people did. My mother-in-law did that too with her brothers. They rented a room. They from the Nebraska Panhandle, they rented a room in a little town and tried to go to high school, but they weren't able to finish because it did wasn't enough money to pull it off. And that now my dad's sister went to work at the soda she soda jerked at the drugstore in little town, and that's how she got through high school and lived with the people, rented a room with the people that owned the drugstore.
I don't know if she knew them beforehand. I never thought they did. But the high school, though, that was called adult education, and, the Scottish people invented that during the Scott what we call the Scottish enlightenment. They invented the high school, and they said, people that are grown can go to school too if they want to. They did a lot of things back then, and then Scotland was a poor country. But they came up with a lot of ideas that have stuck, not all of them for good. Now high school, of course, has gotten to be nothing but a seminary of Satan to indoctrinate children to be sex perverts. Now you think I'm exaggerating. No. No. That's all they care about. As we've worked, reading reading is not important. Writing, arithmetic, that's not important. And this is a point we could talk about, Roger. There are some people listening, the grandparents and parents that may be wondering about educating their children and don't wanna send them to the public school system.
And I can understand why. And I went through that, but I was I went through it with my children back in the early eighties when we started trying to bring up a family, and we decided we didn't wanna send them to the government schools. And so we we said, oh, we're just gonna keep them at home. Well, we didn't realize what kind of trouble that would cause. Not only with the powers that be with her but with her own family. Our own families were still most people were indoctrinated at that time into thinking that America is great and America is good and we're the good guys. Of course, we we had been after World War two. And when you and I were in school, Roger, we were on top of the world.
We were the good guys and the other people were the bad guys. And we were teaching people the right thing, and we were Christian folk, and it all seemed good. And I went to school. My teachers were in the same church group we were in. The bus drivers were the local preachers from little churches around there in the countryside, and that was the system, and we prayed at school. This is a government school. And, everybody there knew my grandparents and my parents. Well, that's a different kind of a world. Well, all that's gone away. So now what are we gonna do? We have a duty to maintain reality. Christianity, by the way, is the only reality. It is it is reality, the reality, and everything else is tending towards fantasy.
Fantasy. People worship things were nice, but they ain't. No. Life is rough. It's tough, and it's dangerous. And without the orders of the order that the book God has given us puts in place, we will be annihilated. Our families will be destroyed. Our country will fall to the wayside and become the tail and not the head. That's the clear message of the Bible, and those are some of the biblical phrases that are used. Well, we decided we want to do that. And I said, well, if I'm gonna be in charge of this school by the way, I named it the Charles Melvin. I may named it after my Charles Charles Melvin Hudson. I named it after my granddad. They didn't call him Charles Melvin. They call Melvin. They called him Melvin.
They didn't call him Charlie. They called him Melvin. I don't know why, but that's what they called that's what I knew him as, of course. I called him grandpa. We used to call people grandpa and grandma. That was what we called them. We didn't say grandma Melvin. You know, we used the last names. That that's a shift in our culture too. But, of course, when you got great grandparents, that can get confusing because you got two grandmas that have the same last name, so we had to adjust for that. But other than that, I said, I if we're gonna educate our children, I better figure out what's going on here. I better try to understand what my philosophy of education is type thing. So I began to do some serious studying, and I was sitting on a gold mine.
Or, well, we wanted it to be a gold mine. It was a mining property out in, the wilderness of the Elephant Country. I called it the Arizona Desert. And being out there a lot and not having a lot of social interaction, I took time. I'd run on weekends. I'd run to town, get books out of libraries. There were a couple of towns close there. They had libraries, and I began trying to understand. I thought maybe there was a mystery to education. I thought maybe I needed to be educated on education. I thought I was a stupid one. I thought a lot of things that weren't true, and, no, that's not true. What is education? I'm gonna quote a fellow that some people that listen to these, this platform probably hate.
But he's he's probably one of the most well known men in the world, And I think he was caught in a terrible vice, and he did things he hadn't ought to do, but, but he wasn't stupid. There are a lot of people you don't agree with. They aren't stupid. Like the Romans used to say, it's good to learn even from your enemies. Sometimes they know stuff that you wish, you know, knew, you know, find out how to do things. And if you're unwilling to learn from those you don't like and your enemies, you're gonna go down. You better be learning letter letters and lessons about, about warfare from your enemy.
And if you're nailed down and refuse to do that, he's gonna get you. Well, he knows some tricks, by the way, but Abe Lincoln said somebody asked him one time. Of course, he went not even one full year of formal education, not even one full year, and he was about he would have been a third grader at that time. He lived, they'd he'd born in Kentucky. They moved across the Ohio River in Southwest Indiana, pay place called Pigeon Creek. And, when he got to be about eight or 10, they there was a school set up there in the wilderness. At that time, that was the wild and wooly West. Lincoln was born in '27.
Oh, by the way, the same year that Jeff Davis was born. And, by the way, both both of them born in the same state. Is that right? Yeah. Both of them born Kentucky, and and Abe Lincoln said one time, said, he met somebody from Virginia or Virginia as they used to say, and people didn't call him Lincoln at where he was from. They called him they pronounced it Linkhorn. Linkhorn, like corn, like c o r n, Linkhorn. And, they asked him, well, do you know anybody from Virginia? And he said, I got more kin in Virginia than a Blue Ridge rabbit.
All all of those fellows that were involved in that not all of them, but the leaders, most of them. Well, at that time, America was dominated by, by people that had come through the mountains. How is she gonna get to the western parts of the country unless you come through the Cumberland Gap? That was the big opening, and there were a couple other places. But the Cumberland Gap opens up, by the way, right where the Kentucky and Virginia come together. Of course, Kentucky, was part of the colony of Virginia, by the charter of, the crown and as well as most of Illinois, Indiana.
See, Virginia was a big big, land grant, and it started way up West Virginia, which goes clear up to Pennsylvania, the Mason Dixon Line, and even beyond runs clear west as far as the new land would go. Well, so all the people that came through the gap that populated those places were, primarily Virginians. And, when the war started, Patrick Henry was governor of the war with England, Britain. Patrick Henry was governor, and he commissioned a group of men to go into that territory called the Northwest Territories and take it back from England. France had it, then England had it, and then Virginia said it's ours. We have it by charter, and that's one of the reasons why they went to war. My the many of the colonies, because it says right in the declaration that they had violated their charters and taken our lands. And they wouldn't England said nobody can go west of the Alleghenies.
They said, no. No. No. The charter says that that land is ours. So he commissioned a fellow. His name was George Rogers Clark, and he had a 60 men from Kentucky, about a 60. And they call them the long knives. Everybody call them the long knives. They were a nasty bunch. I mean, they were just clothed animals pretty much. And, of course, he had to try to control them, but they were dangerous men. And that's the kind of men you gotta have for war, dangerous men. You don't got dangerous men who are willing to fight. You shouldn't be fighting. I was thinking, Roger, today, this morning, I got madder than an old wet hen. I was I won't tell you what I was doing, but I got mad.
I don't know why it came to mind, and I thought, you know, when I was a boy, we'd go to my great grandmother's. We called her grandma Mackenzie because that was her name. And her father was a veteran of that awful war between the states, the Northern and the Southern Tiers. His name was Matthew McKenzie. That was my great grandma, and I knew my great grandma and her father, and she had his rifle that he carried during the war with its bayonet setting in the in the bedroom on the Southeast part of her house there, the Southeast bedroom, we called it, and it was setting up in the corner in there. And when we'd get there, we'd go to her house for Thanksgiving and and, Easter.
And, of course, all us mumskins running around, all us children, all us cousins, or dozens of us seemed like, and we'd be going that they'd run us outside when they get tired of us inside. But inside, if it was cold, we'd play hide and seek in the house. And for little children, you think you're hiding, you know, we get in that closet and we it would darken there, but we could feel that rifle with our hands. And we knew it was in there and we wanted it, get it out and look at it, of course. And then aunt Bessie, my grandma Mackenzie's oldest daughter, she get out this 10 box, had a bunch of 10 types in it. Remember the 10 type?
You've heard of the 10 type pictures they used to take?
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Oh, on on the negative?
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Yeah. On the negatives. And we and that's the way they used to have pictures, and it had 10 types in it of the family, pictures taken a hundred and seventy years ago or something now. Goodness. And lots of them. And my grandma on the other winners on the other side of the family, she had a lot of 10 types too. And I wonder now what happened to all those, but she had 10 types and she had all the letters that her grandpa, my grandmother great grandmother's father had written home when he was, in the, army in Tennessee. And, he only had one injury. He was founding member of the Grand Army of the Republic.
And then in the pictures, I never knew him, but I'd see pictures of him later. He even in his bev overalls, he would wear his medal. He always wore his medals even when he was working. I mean, that's a we we don't we cannot fathom how big a deal that war was to men Alright. And how awful it was. Right. But the only injury I had my grandpa Douglas died of a disease he caught in camp, and he only lived it lingered in his body. It was very dangerous just to be in the military forces back then. It lingered in his body until he died at age 42. It just finally killed him. It was weekly that. But but the only injury grandpa Matthew McKenzie got was, a snowball fight in Tennessee.
And both sides I mean, a skirmish. Both sides ran out of ammunition, and so the boys started throwing snowballs at each other. Yeah. And it was snow in Tennessee. It doesn't happen often, but there was snow there. They had a snowball fight. And, some some smart aleck on the other side put a rock in the snowball and hit him in the nose. Yep. Right. But I said to myself this morning, Roger, if soldiers are having fun with snowball fights on both sides, that's a war that shouldn't be fought. There's something seriously wrong. Yeah. I mean, if you're not out to destroy the enemy and win the war, and the boys weren't, they a lot of thing a lot of funny things happened. And it's it there's more than that. I've read a lot about it over the years. There's more to it than that. That war was a sickness of demonism started by people that just love bloodshed. Almost seven hundred thousand boys died.
And how many more lost their arms and legs over what? Over what? Something that we didn't fix. If it was over slavery, that didn't change. Didn't change at all. And up until my lifetime, your lifetime that nothing changed. And, now, there's still the trouble going on. And after all the trouble and the death of madness, we're still trying to figure out and what to do now. The Democrats have taken the course for the over this over the decades, taken the race card and tried to run their party on it. And that's they're running out of with that. They're they're done now.
Yes. They're done. But why all this madness? War like that. And the and they are the ones. They are the ones still who want this bloodshed.
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Right. They want bloodshed in Ukraine. They want bloodshed in Right. In The Middle East. Go ahead, Roger. Well, it's something I was gonna talk about, but I want you to expand what the line you're on right now because there's kind of an alert out there this morning, and I just hadn't gotten around to mention it yet.
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Well, what is it, Roger?
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Well, as, you know, Mike Adams, the health ranger? I haven't done any of his little videos in Oh, he used to be on with us sometimes. No. He hadn't been on with us. I'd love to get his attention, but not him. So what he on the platform, though, but him? Well, no. I don't even think so. No. He's got his own platform, Brydie on. Okay. Regardless, he came out with an alert this morning. I don't know if that's over on I saw it on BitShoot and listened to it right before he went on the air. If I don't know that it would apply to any of our folks. But if you got any kind of assets in Europe, he says get them out and get them out quick. Okay?
He thinks that this whole thing is going to evolve in from some of the information he's gotten, into a war of Europe versus the rest of the world. It would have been us, but Trump's backed us out of there now. And they're just held high water to get this war started because they can't cover up their financial crimes otherwise. I get you. I get you, Roger. Yeah. Probably gonna go into some sort of a seizure over there. Now you go listen to the Mike Adams thing yourself. But, if you got any kind of assets in any way, shape, or form in Europe, his suggestion is to get them out. I think the date that he is floating is April 7.
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Okay. So what they're doing let me let me run this by you, Roger, and see if this makes sense to you. Of course, JD Vance went to Europe and told him, why are we defending you? You don't hold our values. Alright. We spent billions and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars and sending men and materials since World War two, not to mention World War two and how many what we lost there. And you don't believe what we believe. That's really what he said to them. And, then, of course, Trump's policies well, they're they're evil. The leaders are evil. Mhmm. The evil men don't see the light. They're blind and they love bloodshed. And if they can't, as you said, if they can't, have a come to Jesus meeting as the, political pundits were saying on the news, then, they'll just create a mess of things and they don't care.
They don't care who dies. They don't care. They're not gonna let, I just heard this morning during COVID, DJ Trump didn't know what to do. Of course, they were trying to destroy him with the whole thing. Right. And so New York City, the governor there was going crazy and saying, oh, there's all we're all gonna die and the hospitals are full. He said, okay, I'll send a hospital ship up there. Yep. The comfort and also Christian groups, Christian groups came in and tried to set up to help people, and the governor rejected all that. Yep. Why why did he reject it? Especially because they were Christian groups. Oh, they're Christians? They hate everybody. They hate, the other races. Must I remind ding dongs like that? Must I remind them that it's Christian folks that stop the slave trade in the world?
Christian folks. Way back when. It's Christian folks that said, no. We don't wanna slaughter each other. If slavery is wrong, let's just get rid of it. And Christian folk were doing that. Christian folk are the ones that you, you folk, are the ones that have like somebody said in the ancient past, and they were educated to it. The poor people are a gold mine. That's what they've been to the Democrats. A way of somebody to use to pump everybody for money to do whatever they wanted to do, which was evil. Well, I was getting upset about that this morning, Roger, but go ahead. I I see the point. Take your money, pull back. The policy now is America First. And what does that mean to you? That means you first, You can't help anybody else until you take care of yourself.
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You can't help anybody if you're not strong. I'll tell you that.
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You can't save the world if you can't pay the rent. You can't save the world if you can't pay the rent. Go ahead. Somebody's I think it's Dave for one. Hey, Dave. What you got? Yeah.
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I heard something pretty good the other day. So there's 850,000,000 Europeans begging three fifty million Americans to protect them from 140,000,000
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Russians. Right.
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Right. That's good. What
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I heard Roger is that there's hundreds of billions of dollars worth of Russian assets in Europe that have been frozen. Yep. They haven't been confiscated because they have to declare war in order to legally confiscate that.
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Well, could be, Samuel. I think we've got 300,000,000,000. I think we've got 300,000,000,000 of Russian assets too. Well, maybe they I don't know. Take maybe they're all in Europe. I I I don't know. I don't know the clarification on that, but I do know that all the gold in the world has is either in The US, any extra gold in the world, or else it's headed there. They're they're bringing gold back. Do you know that, Brent, that over there in the world? Sure. I don't know a lot about it, but I'm amazed. Gold's doing good. Silver's on It was almost at $3 yesterday just as just I think silver is about 34 or 35. Uh-huh.
They over at the London Bullion Market Exchange, they've taken all of the exchange's gold, and it's been even air in planes over to to The US. And if you wanted to go buy gold at the London Bullion Market Exchange today, it's usually the day you order plus one or two days. Uh-huh. Now it's eight weeks.
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Well, that's the way it is. We gold dealers too in in our own country. Yep. But here's that. And it's always that one.
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Three or I'm going to go over $309 and change or $3,009
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and change. Okay. So it popped that imaginary line that probably is going to cause a lot of activity. I remember, Robbie Noel, who was a stockbroker for a while, used to say goal climbs a wall of worry. And, boy, it's got a lot of climbing to do right now.
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That's amazing. Well, three options three options we have for organizing our lives. And all men all over the world only have three options fundamentally. And then, of course, they're bleeding over between the two. You either have tribalism, nationalism, or imperialism, empire. That's the only three options you have. And I think it's clear from the Bible that God ordains nationalism. He ordains it. Tribalism is nothing but never ending warfare witnessed the tribes, the red man tribes of America. They were constantly slaughtering each other before the white men got here. And of course they wanted to slaughter the white men. They all got together in different ways, but even then they were practicing, slavery and mass against each other, slaughtering each other, torturing each other in ways that, we don't even wanna talk about. And they tried that on the white boys and but there was no stopping the white boys. They just kept coming and eventually that was all stopped. That's tribalism.
And then there's imperialism, which you people also call empire. Those are Mhmm. Words that talk empire and imperium means government by the command of a single will. That's what the word means. That's what it is. That's what all of the world operates under right now under the code of Justinian, the the civil laws of Rome, the canon civil laws of the Roman and the Orthodox Church. That's imperian imperial government by by command of a single will. And then there is common law government, of course, and there's only a few countries that have that. Fundamentally, England and all of her colonies and former colonies, and we fall into that category.
That's our common law government. And under common law government, that's nations. Nations, not tribalisms. But the balance of of, strength is God's order. And God's order says nationalism, and nationalism comes down to strong families. One man, one woman, Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. It's that kind of fundamental and everybody paying attention to what goes on in their house. Not, the, individual and individuals running a muck without any connection to families. We got a lot of that today too. That seems to be the pen all over the world.
So but nationalism is what God ordains. You read the Bible, you see it over and over again, how he divides the land. It's all a matter of land of the earth up among, among combinations of tribes, tongues, and nations. And that's what you have with nationalism. And we in America are doing something that nobody, has done in a common law country before, not to the degree we've done it. You know, England was the melting pot of Europe. People came all over Europe to England. And the Englishman is a mixture of many different kind of people, frankly. And they have done very well because of the order of their common law tradition, and we fall under that same common law order as well.
And we're more English at this point than the English as some comparative lawyers have said. We practice our common law with a more of a vengeance. We practice the features of of our common law, separation of powers. They practice separation of powers, but it's not as intense as ours. For instance, their de facto chief executive of their nation is also the leader of the dominant party of their national legislature. That's we don't do that here. The Bible does the Bible does permit that, but we take it a step further and we say, no. We don't even want that. Now we don't want our chief executive, but they're king or queen. Whoever holds the crown is a component of their national legislature, a component. And then the crown turns over the sovereignty of the nation to the legislature.
When the legislature goes in session. You've got this these relationships between the three branch of government. There's a separation there. Yes. But, traditionally, I don't know what it's like now back when I was studying law. The house of Lords, the upper chamber of the national legislature, the upper house, as we call it here, the Senate, that was the Supreme court of last resort. The upper house was in their country instead of the court. So you've got this, this, bleed over from one branch of government to the other. Well, we don't have that here. We got a Supreme court and that's it. They're not the legislature. And we even built Washington, DC of all the ugly things that are in the I call them just flat demonism in the architecture and layout of Washington, DC.
But we did insist, for whatever reason, that we separate the White House from the Legislative House, the Capitol Building by a mile, just well in symbolic recognition of the separation of the powers of government. Then the Supreme Court now has their own building. We finally did that. And it's they're not they don't meet in the Capitol Building, and there's a separation of powers there. There's not and just the simple thing is like, you know, you go to your courthouse, Roger, you got the Sheriff's office often. You got the prosecutor's office. You got the judges. If those folk are all in the same courthouse, they're all on the they're all on the same team. They say good they say good morning to each other every morning. They see each other. They eat lunch together in many respect. Oh, yeah. That's not healthy.
There needs to be more of a separation. We have that by in symbol of Washington, DC. When the Supreme Court justices go to work, they don't have to say good morning to the legislators or the president. They're not all buddies. You know, people in court houses, they think they're all on the same team. They call themselves the courthouse staff. And I have done business in courthouses for a long time, federal federal courthouses, same way. You got, you got the prosecutor's office and the prosecutor, that's the executive branch. That's under the president of The United States in the same building with, district US district court. Now that's not good. That's not good at all because they get to thinking they're all there to prosecute people, and they're all there to vindicate the federal government. And we're all government employees and are like, one lawyer said to me, I'd mentioned early on. I said, well, you know, there is a there is a separation of powers there. He said, yeah. But notice the prefix on their telephone numbers and from the prosecutor to the judge's chambers is all the same.
And we got a we got a problem here, and we do. Yes, sir. And you ask them who they work for, and they don't even know. I ask, you know, a probation. They call it probation, bail officer, the pretrial officer that goes to watch people before they go to trial while they're on bail and all that. And I asked, this officer said, who do you work for? There was a hesitation. The officer didn't know, but made something up and said, well, I work for the US attorney's office. I said, are you sure about that? I think it might be a good idea if you check really who you're answerable to here. Well, the officer didn't know, didn't have a clue, thought they worked for the court and, or thought they worked for the prosecutor when the truth is they work for the court and they answer to the judge and they're not a separation. There's this incestuous relationship going on between the US attorney's office and the judges. They help each other. They know each other. They they wish each other well in the morning. As I said, do you think that's a small thing? Do you think they can keep it separate? No. You couldn't either, and neither could I. You wanna get along with people. You wanna be nice to people.
But in this case, we don't wanna do that. We wanna separate those powers. Which Supreme Court justice was it that said during the, Johnson administration and he'd get invited to the White House, it might have been chief justice Warren, get invited to the White House for little get togethers and events and suppers, and he wouldn't go. He would never accept an invitation to the White House. And he encouraged the other justices, whichever one it was, you can look it up, encouraged them not to accept invitations to the White House either. And he said publicly, I don't accept invitations. It's a matter of my duty.
I don't want the Americans to think that I'm in any way supporting what Johnson is doing one way or the other. Right. One way or the other, whether I support the war in Southeast Asia or whether I don't. Mhmm. Well, we need a revitalization of that attitude in government. Maybe it will happen. Peep I've heard people say, Roger, that what DJ Trump is doing is all show business. I've heard that. I've heard people say that that's on the Internet, that it's all a sham. He's just playing. They're all on the same team. They keep saying it and they get come up with all the evidence. Well, even even if that's true, and I'm not saying it's true, but even if that's true, it's given us, given us all a different, impression about what we can and can't do. And it is emboldening people to speak and to write and to act with more boldness. Right. It is.
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What I'll tell you one thing I don't like is this, leaning to Zionism so heavily. For example, they pull it all out bulletin and all the resources to go get this kid that's some sort of a Palestinian student at Columbia and deport him when there's all of these crooks that they need to be going after and Epstein lists that need to be out there and all these other things, and they're prioritizing a Palestinian student at Columbia. That's gotta tell you something. It's not pretty.
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the president has withdrawn about $400,000,000 from Columbia. Student grants and loans and etcetera. $400,000,000. These guys are hurt. Columbia couldn't continue. And they they did it saying, well, here's what they're saying, that there's antisemitism on the campus. Now is that what you heard too? Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, it'd be a blessing if they could take Columbia down. That's the Frankfurt School hotbed of you know, one time I looked on the secretary of state's website, and they had a whole list of really important people there about ten, fifteen.
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Every one of them had a PhD from Columbia. Every one of them. Oh, Columbia is no small thing. Just a bit of background that people don't talk about because the news is just nothing about hype. But I believe Columbia was the first teacher's college in America, and its founder was Thomas Dewey.
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Well, that says a lot right there, does it? That says a lot, doesn't it? See, Thomas Dewey,
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born, I believe, in 1859 and died in 1959. He lived a long time for sure about a hundred years. Yeah. And he's called the father of modern American education. He's a rank communist, a rank atheist. Yep. He's the founder of the teachers college movement, probably hundreds of teachers colleges I know. And where I grew up, there were two, three, four teachers, colleges built about 1900. That was at his influence. I mean, as a young man, he got this thing rolling. He said, what we need is teachers and colleges that are government schools that will promote the government's line. Standardized. And, and he invented the word socialism Yeah. And socialization.
And what he meant when he said that was we need to make our children socialist. That was the whole idea. And people said to me, when I, and this is how this stuff hangs on and people don't even know what they're saying. I had close family members. I've told you about, my granddad Mackenzie, and I had his grandchildren, which were my aunts and uncles. They went crazy. When I took my children, I never did send them to school. I just kept them at home. I, and I was homeschooling and they went crazy and they said to me over and they'd get me aside and try to lecture me when we'd have family get together, said Brent, your children will not be properly socialized.
That they didn't know what they were saying. That's from Tom Dewey, a communist and an atheist.
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Yep. And he I don't want my children socialized.
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Yes. And he wanted right. And what he wanted was to he said, listen, we cannot control America with our atheism and our communism, unless we can get control education. He understood that that's why the teachers colleges, took over in every state. Now they're called universities, but they're teachers, former teachers, colleges like Columbia. And then he said, we've got to have for our religion, our atheistic religion, we've got to have rights. We have to be able to defend our position under the first amendment religion clauses. And so he signed what he called, I think it's somebody can look it up, the socialist manifesto or the communist man, if no, not the communist. That was the, the something manifesto.
And the whole thing was, of course, that spawned later on Francis Schaeffer in the nineteen seventies wrote a Christian manifesto in response to Tom Dewey's manifesto. I think it was back in the twenties or thirties and trying to get first amendment protection for the religion called atheism. It never did do it. He never did do it, but he wanted it and they pushed hard. He wasn't stupid, but he was a weirdo. And he's the one also I can tell other things that happened at these teachers colleges. See, there were teachers' colleges, and people didn't think anything. Oh, we need more teachers. How wonderful that is. And the teachers' colleges that were back in my neck of the woods in the Midwest that were started, with government money, of course, and they advertise them. They said they said this. We'll have chapel every day in these teachers' colleges, Christian chapel. And they did for decades and then they stopped.
And then, but in the meantime, they were working underneath to build this consensus of atheism and socialism. These are the seminaries of Satan and continue to be. Yeah. Can
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I lift a phrase from TJ here? Minor, minors and sappers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's it. I and, of course, those are the folks well, you tell them, Roger. So people say, what's that? Well, those are the ones that, do work underneath structurally and all that stuff and plant dynamite and all all the things they do to under undermine and underneath, and that's who they are. And Thomas Jefferson realized it a couple hundred years ago Yeah. And adequately identified it.
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Yeah. They were the ones that at Vicksburg, the let me finish this illustration, then you can talk where it was that piped up. At Vicksburg, when Grant was surrounding Vicksburg, his miners and sappers, union soldiers, they were miners, real life coal miners. They went under the Confederate lines, and the Right. The Confederates were doing the same thing, plant massive amounts of explosives Uh-huh. And blew people
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sky high. No kidding. But I think Vicks wouldn't Vicksburg on a high bank of the Mississippi there? It was probably easier for them to mine and sap under the Vicksburg. Probably. I don't I don't remember that. Well, I've driven over the bridge there from, Mississippi to Alabama. Uh-huh. By the way, he just to throw this out, Larry, I'll get you in a second. I don't know if Brent heard this. The per capita income of Germany Two Weeks ago Yeah. Was one beneath Mississippi per capita.
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Oh, man. That's
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how bad bad Germany's gone down. Larry, what'd you have, buddy?
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Yeah. Two questions for Brent. I remember listening one time when Brent was on a Friday and he made the statement, that there's three branches of government and neither branch has to obey the orders of another branch because that's what the separation of powers doctrine is all about. And I was wondering if, Brent has a an opinion as to why Trump just doesn't ignore the orders of the federal courts because they got all these federal judges that pop up there periodically and they'll they'll come out with an order ordering the Trump administration, to not do this or to do this.
And, you know, I remember Roger telling the story that there is this one individual in history that the Supreme Court I think made a decision and
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the, individual said, well, let them enforce it. And they Right. So basically, they just ignored it. So that's my first question. Alright. And then the next one for Woah. Woah. Don't go too much. We can't remember what the first Yeah. I won't remember. So let me let us respond to that one then you can ask for a second. Is that okay? That's fine. You're you're right. And, that was Andy Jackson that said the Supreme Court has made its decision. Now let's see if it can enforce its decision. And that was, according that was with the case of removing the the the five more than five tribe. Many tribe removed them and put them in Oklahoma. I thought it was the second bank of the US that decision. The second bank of the US, he was the same situation, but he, but he he I don't think he said that at that time. What he said at that time, it it applies clearly applies. He said, when he vetoed the renewal of the charter of the of the unit US Bank, which was like the Federal Reserve, he vetoed it. And he said, when I took, an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States, I did not take an oath to support it and defend it as some as someone else understands it such as the Supreme Court. I took an oath to court and defend it as I understand it. And indeed, any oath you take has to be according to your conscious or it's not an oath.
That's like getting on a jury. This is popular in America. You go for jury duty and they say, okay, we've got our 12 jurors here. Okay. Now we want you to take an oath to obey the instructions of the judge. They do that. It's pervasive now. Yep. How silly. Oh, oh, my oath is not to to follow the law, but to follow some personality who might be a sexpert and probably is and been married six or 10 times. And he beats his kids and he he his dogs are more important than his children and on and on and on and on and on you go. The people are sitting on the bench. We have juries for crying out loud. Why? Because we don't trust judges. Isn't that easy? Is there something about that people don't understand? Is there something about that judges are willing unwilling to admit? It's true. That's our common law tradition. Juries do not exist in the rest of the world, the 12 man jury. And that's because we don't trust why don't we trust judges? Because they are as human as we are Yeah. And in positions of power, more so. Who was it that famous famous prime minister said the Jews are just like everybody else, only more so?
And, oh, is this he was Jewish. So Jew the, Disraeli said that. Oh, Disraeli. Okay. He said, I don't know why people don't like Jews. He said they're just like everybody else, only more so. Well, that's the clever statement. Then it's true that once a man gets in a position of influence and power, it doesn't corrupt him. He's already corrupt. You're corrupt. I'm corrupt. We're all corrupt. We have weaknesses. We're wound up and bound up in our own whims and difficulties. You take a man that's why we got juries. God said God said juries. That's why we got them. How many you know, when when we in America or in in England still with criminal cases, but they're about to get rid of their jury and Canada, when we want to decide, whether or not we want to discover a new, element for the periodic table, we go consult the experts. We want to catalog a library, we go consult the experts. We want to find a new solar system system, we go consult the experts. But we want when we in America wanna know who lives or dies in a murder case, we just grab the closest 12 men standing around and ask them what to do.
And the rest of the world thinks we're insane, but we're free. We're freer by far. Oh, yeah. By far. I know we got problems. But as long as we got the jury, we're gonna stay a free nation. And no nation, no common law nation has ever lost its freedom until they got rid of the jury. And we're the by the way, we're the only common law country that that is a common law country, and we're willing to go to war to be a common law country. And our war for separation from Britain was because they were denying us our common law. It's that simple. That taxes, that's neither here nor there. That didn't have a lot to do with it.
The the Tea Party at Boston did not have a lot to do with it. Those were renegades. It may have been true that we were being overtaxed. That wasn't the bottom line. Read the declaration of '76. You'll find out what the bottom line was. And every one of those things that they list in the declaration of '76 came down to their denying a feature of our common law tradition, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to enter new lands, the right to trial fury, admiralty law. They even cite the canon laws of Rome as being used against them to supplant our common law tradition. On and on it goes. That's why we're here. Well, now we share that in common with our with the English speaking world, and we encourage them, and I encourage them. Don't lose your jury up there in Canada. You're losing your jury.
England, you don't even have juries for noncriminal cases anymore. You better get your jury back. What about the grand jury? We got that too. Do they have the grand jury? No. They did away with their grand jury back about 1935. We don't we don't we don't want people to go to trial without a grand jury. That's our common law tradition. By the way, the Bible somebody said, yeah. We grabbed 12 men standing around, and ain't that what Jesus Christ did when he had an important question that needed an answer and a verdict? And that's exactly what he did. And that's what we do. Roger, are you gonna say something? Well, I was gonna say a whole bunch of stuff,
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but I wanted to bring forward something that Robert Barnes said last week on the show. They can impeach judges. We've got some impeachment papers in the congress already on a couple of these rogue judges. And you can impeach a judge on some just bad character or something. You don't have to have them in an offense, particularly.
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It's just a a an observance of bad character. I don't remember exactly the Well, here's what I agree with him. And here's what it comes down to. If Congress wants to impeach him, get him out of the office, they don't really need much of an excuse. They could accuse him of anything. That's way the way it was designed. If the Congress has that kind of power over judges Yeah. And should have. Yeah.
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Also, yesterday, the, birthright citizenship case hit the Supreme Court. It's gonna be very interesting. K? Now what they're doing, and one of the things they're fighting here is these district court judges that can make a decision in their district and controls the whole rest of the country. That's what they're against. Yeah. Well, I'm against that. That's being argued too. It's really interesting. I heard a lawyer, guy on about long oh, a dissertation. He'd written a brief on all this and was going over the brief last time. It's pretty interesting.
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Well, I don't but I'm being foolish. I'm not answering this fella's question, Roger. I gotta get back to it. Why is it Okay. Go ahead, Larry. You've got Yeah. My fault, Roger. It's my fault. Why is it Trump is, is obeying these judges? I'll tell you why. Because it's not politically expedient Yep. To do otherwise. You're better off. This is all comes down to the president saying, okay. I can do this as a matter of law. But in the long run, here's the other thing we wanna point out. The three branches of government ought to get along when they can.
They can agree if they want to, and they often do. But I wanna mention why it is we believe people what happened in America, the presidents have become more Serbian
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supreme court judges. If we'll do that after the music stops Yeah. We're gonna say bye bye to, I think, Chicago today, maybe England. Don't know. England may be coming here. No telling. Paul, get us straight.
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Yeah. Around RadioSoapbox.com. Radio Soapbox Com. Follow us into the second hour, by going to the matrixstocks.com or going to eurofolkradio.com. And, you can follow us right into the second hour. For more information on Brent Winters, go to commonlawyer.com. Thank you, Brent.
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Yep. Thank you, Paul. Paul. Yeah. Appreciate you.
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Well, wait. I gotta answer this. We're we're in the middle of something. We'll give you a shot in a minute. Okay. Go ahead.
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Thank you. We we like it when you do that, but I gotta answer this fella's question. He's got two more. Well, the first question is why why is it judges, they try, they don't want to look like they're being hard to get along with with the Supreme court because the nation politically could turn against them to some degree, every president and every governor, by the way, common law tradition, every one of them, every president refuses to follow Supreme Court orders, some of them. And he chooses very carefully, Supreme Court opinions or orders. He chooses very carefully, which ones he will obey and which ones he will not obey. And it's his right to do that in our common law tradition. We have nobody in government who has the final word. It is a perpetual, if you ever saw I like to use this analogy.
If you ever saw the movie Clint Eastwood, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. And The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, those are the three men that represented. That was a Christian analogy, by the way, that whole that whole story. They don't say that in the movie because they made a movie out of it. Hollywood's not Christian. They'd mask that, but the story was written about the good, the bad, and the ugly. And the man that represents the good, Clint Eastwood played that part. He was an an angel, so to speak. And man that represented the bad, I think his name was Van Cleef.
Yeah. Yeah. And then the man that yeah. And then the man that represented the ugly, they had a Mexican standoff gunfight, a three way gunfight, in a circle, in a graveyard, if you remember. Well, that's what our constitutional government is. It's a three way Mexican standoff, but it it nobody ever gets killed. Vision it this way. Our common law, our whole our whole legal tradition is grounded as our declaration of 76 says, in the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god. Grounded. Picture a tree grounded in the law of the land. And the law of the land has two volumes, the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. So you got this tree rooted deep in the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. And on this tree are three branches.
The tree itself is our constitution of The United States, just as an example. And then on this tree are three branches, the executive department, the presidency, the legislative department, the Congress of the United States and the judicial department, which is the Supreme court of the United States. Our constitution only directly creates one court. That's the Supreme court of the United States. And as you know, Congress then can indirectly and they have, do other courts. But once they do that, they become part of the judicial branch. Those three branches, just like branches of a tree. If you can picture a tree, those three branches are not going to grow down. Why are they going? What are they going to do? They're going to grow up. They're gonna stand up. And what are they gonna do as they're standing up? They're competing for sunlight.
If you want a tree to branch out, you've got to trim the tree as otherwise it will just grow straight up. And I know I've trimmed lots of trees in my life, climbing up there with a chainsaw and cutting out, pick out the right limbs to cut out and, and you do that so that you'll have a, a shade tree around your house. We used to have trees around our house, soft maples. And we did that every year. We tried to keep them so they would spread out. And if you cut the center well, anyway, let do it, how that works. I don't want to go into that. Did just say these three branches, like the branches of a tree are competing, the executive, the legislative, and the judicial they're competing and they know their powers and they're going to exert them to the limit.
That's what they're going to do. But they, but the, the go branch, so there are two political branches of government that have to be careful about the people they represent. That's the presidency or the governor of your state and the any branch, the people in the legislature. And they're going to do it. And when it comes down to it, well then who are they really trying to please the militia of the several States? When our constitution of The United States says we, the people that were people is lifted out of the Bible and the word people is all throughout the Bible. The people, my people, the people, those people.
What does that word mean? The Hebrew word, am, my people, ami, the people, ham. What does that mean? In every case in the Hebrew old Testament, that word means or refers to signifies an armed band of men. That's what that word means. And that's why I translated in the winterized translation. I translate it always armed forces. It's a group of armed men or militia, but more in most all cases, that word refers to the militia of the 12 tribes of Israel, our Puritan foreback bearers as, Winston Churchill observed again, I'm not promoting Winston Churchill. I know he had his problems too, but he did say some things that were true. He said the Puritans were the most biblical race of men that ever lived. I agree with him. They were, and, everything that they said in their speech and their words.
And when, Webster wrote, his 1828 dictionary, he wrote that dictionary for the same reason. He was puritanical Calvinist to the hill. He wrote that dictionary to make sure that the Americans and their English tongue use words the way the Bible used them. Now, I don't, I'd have to look to see what he did with the word people, but I'm giving you personal testimony. I know what that word means. I've looked into it for years. It means the militia of the 12 tribes of Israel. And when the constitution of The United States says we, the people it's talking about the militia, the inner original States, the several States of the union, we, the people of the who ratified the constitution, who put it in place, the militia of the several States, That's who did it. And if you want to complain about it, you complain against them and to do anything else is just silly. They're the ones that knew what was going on. They're the ones that put it in place in every state. Oh, I know people complain about the founders and what scoundrels they were, and I'll agree with them on many cases. They're like the rest of us only more so because they were given power and influence. So they're just like us only more so.
But the reason why we in America, in mass people believe that the Supreme Court of the United States is the final word. It's not. And you won't find that in the constitution of The United States because our constitution is a brief of sub of common law government. It's our common law. It didn't do anything new. The founders weren't geniuses. They were men like you wound up and bound up in your own whims and difficulties and your your weaknesses. But they just said, we want our common law back. Remember a while ago, I mentioned that. We want our common law back. We're, we're British too, you know? And, you can do that to the Indians and the Pakistanis, what you're doing, take the common law away. They won't know the difference. So I get it, but we know the difference.
We're British and, we're tired of it. Now stop. And if you don't stop, we're not gonna do it anymore. And if you wanna fight us, come over here and we got something for you. And amazingly, of course, they were more powerful than us, but we did win that war for a lot of reasons that Yep. Of the intervention, as they said at that time, of God himself and the affairs of men. And guerrilla war. It was guerrilla war. Yes. It was but we had by the way, we had cowboys, sappers, and miners too at at Yorktown.
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Yep. Sure did. Yeah. Well, we got a second question from Larry, and then we've got another fellow that wants to inject something. And then our our friends, Abdul and the night visitors from the East have joined us. So just heads up. Larry, you got a second question?
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Yeah. So I was looking at the Bible. This is a Bible question I get. Well, it's a political question and a Bible question at the same time. And, I like to use I like to depend upon Bible definitions. Like I mentioned yesterday, I like using the word inhabitant instead of domiciled. But anyway, the bible uses this is the King James version, uses the word nation 438 times, and it uses the word country 175 times. It doesn't use the word state in a political sense. And I was wondering what Brent thinks what the difference is between a state, a country and a nation and I'm thinking there's got to be a difference between nation and country since the King James Bible uses those words like, I don't think it's using them interchangeably.
It it's it's just it's making a distinction, I guess. So that's my question. What in his mind, what are those definitions? Nation, country, state, or are they synonymous?
[01:09:18] Unknown:
Okay. Well, let's start with nation. The word gentile is used a lot in most of the English translations, and that is used to translate the word goy, the singular, and goyim in the plural. That's not what that word means. It doesn't mean gentile. Gentile Gentile is just an it's a it's a Latin based word that means that which is generated.
[01:09:44] Unknown:
That which is what? That which is what, Brent? Generated. Somebody's some there's some noise coming in. Those sensitive microphones, if somebody could not wiggle your phone a little bit. Thank you. Brent, go ahead. Oh, Gentile is the same root word as generate
[01:10:01] Unknown:
or like yeah. Generate. Generate means to, start something going and it keeps going. That's the Latin word, generation. Well, you know, the Bible talks about this generation. What does that mean? Does that mean a certain period of time? No. It doesn't mean a certain period of time. It means something that is generated. These are the generations or ten ten times in the book of Genesis. Exactly 10 times. It says, these are the generations of, and then that's what, that's how the book is divided into 10 sections. These are the generations of Adam.
These are the generations of Noah. Well, what does that mean? That means that Adam generated a race of men. And by the way, he generated it and that energy is still going. I'm part of it. So are you. Yep. Yep. Noah generated. He's the second father of Adam's race, and he generated a race of men, and it's still going. That's the word generation. It's about what is generated, and the word Gentile is simply that word. It doesn't really have that strong connection to the way it's used. What does goy mean then? Goyim.
It means nation. That's what it means. A people that have a common, a commonness of what they believe is worthy of cultivation, culture, a commonness of what they believe is worthy of cultivation. We call that culture. I just said, we're teaching a class on Christian nationhood. We want you to join, the class and we're putting it in the can. You can watch it, but Christian nationhood, and we're making the point in all of this, and we talk about what is a Christian nation, we're talking about, what Van Till Van Till said. Cornelius Van Till grew up on a dairy farm in a Dutch reformed community in Northern Indiana, became the foremost proponent of the reformed of reformed Christianity in the world, passed away during my lifetime. I remember him. Cornelius Van Till, he taught at, at Princeton Theological Seminary all of, most of his life, other places too.
But Cornelius Van Till said that among all nations, all men, all tribes, all tongues, all people at all in all ages, culture is religion externalized. Culture is really good. That's good. That's very good. If culture is religion externalized, then, no matter how culture can be a very ugly thing, we're talking about the tribalism of Americanism, the brutalism of the Comanche, the brutalism of the Mohawk, the cannibalism of the, of the Shawnee, that's their culture. And it's brutal, but that is a result. They outworking. That's another way you could say it.
Culture is an outworking, the outworking of religion and every man and every nation has religion, whether they understand it or not. You've got an ultimate understanding of the fundamental issues of human existence. Your religion to put it more particularly, whoever you are, your religion is your response to your final arbiter of right and wrong. Your God, your law giver, your religion, the comparative lawyers put it this way. Your religion is your, your response to your law giver. That's true of Christianity. And it's true of all the demonic religions, which is everything else. For example, Jesus Christ put it this way. He said, well, the Bible puts it this way.
We love him because he first loved us. You see as creatures, we respond to our creator. He does not respond to us. We respond to him primarily. And our response to him is called religion religare, a binding back. He commits himself to us. He died for us in false religions. You die for your law giver. Like the Islamic people are doing now, like the Japs did that Iwo Jima, a hundred thousand of them approximately jumped off the cliffs and committed suicide. Harry Carey, they do that too. Yeah. But you die in in in Germany as as much as we had in common with them, they committed a horrible error.
Their soldiers and their sailors swore an oath to Hitler and they died for him. Right? Listen, if you're going to do that, you're going to be, God's going to judge you. I don't care how Christian you may look on the outside and how Christian you may even be. It won't work. It's a law of nature. You don't do that. You do not commit yourself to mere mortals. You commit your self to your God, and the way to do that is commit yourself to his law. Our constitution of The United States is a brief of common law government. To take an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States is to take an oath to support and defend what God has ordained the way things are, and they ain't gonna change. Now I find the mistakes in our constitution. I think I can say it better. I think there's some things that are off.
Why? Because that's the laws of nature. That's our observation of the way things are. And the test, the test between those two volumes, the laws of nature, the way things are that we observe in nature and the laws of nature's God, the Bible, The final test is the Bible. It's the final court of last resort. God has worked this out in deft detail. And because we do not know our Bibles, we struggle. What does the what did that that Spaniard say? I quote him a lot. When the people find themselves in a crisis, they instinctively turn their eyes toward their origins and look there for a sign. And we're doing that right now. What's our origins? Our Puritan forebears, our Scotch Irish Presbyterian forebears, our Dutch and German reform forebears. They're the ones that set the religious tone for America, and they're the ones we're looking back to. And I see there's a re a a rejuvenation of those ideas. The laws of nature, our common law tradition, and the laws of nature's God, the Bible. Our common law tradition does not arise out of the Bible, however.
Our common law tradition arises out of God himself who created this order we live in and the laws that he created that are still functioning. He is also the source of the law written the final court of last resort, but religion going back to that is, what every man has and, religion is externalized. And the what happened a long time ago in 1910, a man named Charles Beard, a Quaker, a Quaker, Quakers, oh, I won't say they aren't Christian, but they have a serious flaw in their understanding of the fundamental nature of man. It is not what our forebears had. They deny the depravity of the human soul. They deny the imperfection.
They believe the man has a spark of goodness in him. That if you light it, he'll become a great man. He'll become a good man. He won't be a criminal. Well, that that's God's business. We can't light that. They believe that. And I have, Quaker friends still. I love them to death. They're wonderful people. They have an attitude towards others to to be kind to people, to their neighbor. I understand all that, but you deny when you you use that as your foundation, the depravity of man and the desperation of humanity.
Our forebears understood that. They said, no. No. Without the new birth, you don't stand a dog's chance in hell without the new birth. That's what God does. I didn't birth myself the first time when I was born of my parents. No, my father birthed me. He's the one that did that. He's the one that did whatever he had to do to seduce my mother. And there's a law of nature there too. And the Bible talks about how that works. You've men, you can't seduce a woman unless you follow her law a little bit. The law of the woman, we call it. Those are laws of nature. You gotta be kind to them. You gotta show them you love them before they'll ever give in to you. I watched this on the farm among animals. Yep. If it's gonna be among animals, don't tell me God hasn't made us that way and more, and he has. And it's even more so among us, and we observe those laws. And because your father observed those laws of nature, you're here. And because I observe those laws of nature to some degree, I got I got some children, but I'm just making the point those laws of nature are important to us. We live by them, and we die if we don't observe them, and we will go out of existence. Well, our forebears understood that. Roger, do is you got something to say? I don't wanna Well, not no. I'm just sitting here hanging on every word you're saying, but I I I wanna see if Larry got his questions answered today. And then there's one other guys in line. We try and Hey. I got I got to finish this about Charles Beard. Charles Beard wrote a book. Charles Beard wrote a book in 1910, a Quaker. He was a professor at at per what it is well, right near Purdue at a place still there called Wabash College. It's on the Wabash River near Lafayette, Indiana.
Very old and prestigious school. He was professor there. He wrote a book about the Supreme court and he argued in that book that the Supreme court is final. He argued the Supreme court is final. And ever since the Supreme court has quoted that book saying they're final. Other people have said they're final, but they aren't, they are not. Now, listen, here's another point. I want to be a little more persnickety about how final, what that means. The Supreme court is final, pretty much among the courts in America, the Supreme court. When they rule on a constitutional question, the, the, the, the separation of powers demands that the courts in America, state and federal are bound by that decision. Right. Our common law tradition that our that's our common law tradition, separation of powers, independence of the judiciary.
They're bound. Oh, yeah. I go into court. I argue what the supreme if the supreme court has ruled on a matter, if it helps my client, I argue that. But that does not mean that the executive branch and the legislative branch are bound by it in the same way they aren't. So all these little things come in, but just keep this in mind. I learned this in high school. They prepared us for the constitution test. It was a state law. We had to pass the constitution test. I learned more about the constitution my last year in high school than I learned in law school.
I'm glad for it, but I learned there are separation of powers and neither one of the branches has any authority to Trump the other two branches. If they believe that they are following the constitution, remember those that the oath to support and defend the constitution that our office holders state and federal have, because the constitution requires, it does not create any duty in anybody. No, no, no. An oath never does create a duty. You get on the witness stand, you take a note to support and defend the constitution. You already had a duty to tell the truth or to support no on the witness stand to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
You always have a duty to tell the truth, my friends and withhold and, and be silent if you think other people don't have right to it, but it doesn't, it doesn't give you a duty when you take an oath. It strengthens the duty you already have. It is intended to enliven your sensibility to the duty. Well, that's what the oath is supposed to do. That's why we have it at common law and the, and that common law, an oath to anybody, but God alone, the creator of heaven and earth is paganism. Affirming is that which the Quakers demand, for example. No, that's paganism. If you're going to affirm, you're swearing, who you're swearing by yourself to affirm that you'll tell the truth, it's a swear by yourself. The Bible clearly forbids that. That is false worship. And as a Westminster confession said, that was during the English civil war, They got together and they made a good point. They said an oath is a, is a, is a, act is an act of religious worship.
They're right. Any oath. When the Goliath confronted David, the giant, it says that he swore by his gods, what he would do to David by his gods. Oh, yeah. Some serious demon gods he swore by. That's an act of religious worship and he, his religion, he was in a religion that was destructive. Of course he ended up dying. What a story, what a story of warfare, David and his sling and, something that soldiers ought to pay more attention to. My brother wrote an article in the officer's publication, armed forces officer's publication, breaking down the evaluating the combat between David and Goliath and what we can learn from it. I need to get a copy of that and post it. I hope I can get him to send to me, post it on the website.
That's God talking. That's his narrative. That's him teaching us about warfare and how it works. How does it work? Well, you gotta knock the enemy out first before you kill him. That's what David did. But, that's what Trump is doing. It looks to me like whether he understands it or not, he's got he's got Europe knocked down, Roger. They they're knocked down. And if he wants to annihilate them at this point, I heard a guy speak from South Africa Legislator, and he was telling, I was standing in front of their legislative body or something. Of course, most of them are men and women of color. And he said, listen, we're in a new world. Now there's a new sheriff in town. Yep. We're dependent and you aren't recognizing it and you're going to go down.
God is that God orchestrates all of this, whether men understand it. And I don't know that they all do, but God is sovereign and he orchestrates every bit of it, whether people worship him or not. Even the devil himself, as Martin Luther said, once the devil himself, he may be the devil, but he's God's devil. Don't ever forget. He doesn't get to do anything, but God doesn't allow him. And why does God allow him? I know why he allows him. He allows him to glorify himself. I know that much. I don't know everything, but that much I know. Everything that happened glorifies him, and he will get he says of pharaoh, I will get me honor on the back. That's the the Hebrew the Hebrew is literally it says, I will get me honor on the back of Pharaoh. But this Charles Beard wrote this book, this Quaker that said that, and he was very persuasive, and people have come to believe it. That's how that happened. And he, by the way, was a communist socialist. Go ahead, Roger. Well, if they're not the, end all on the decision, who else is?
[01:24:41] Unknown:
If what now? On the Supreme Court. If they're not the end all superior decision,
[01:24:47] Unknown:
where else would you take a Supreme Court case that The final court of last resort in our common law tradition and in America Yes, sir. Is the the the law giver down here on earth down here on earth, ordained of God is the 12 man jury. That's our common law tradition. Okay. That's why the evil empire works so hard to make sure these decisions stay with the court and stay without or or made without the jury. But that's what God intends. I'm I'm saying without our common law tradition, we can't have a Christian nation. We do have a Christian nation, whether people are Christian or not. That's what we got. That's what we have deemed worthy of cultivation. That is our culture. That is our religion externalized, worked out. This fella had one more question. I wanna Well, no. I think we got Larry. There was somebody else, and then Paul has joined us. And I I he's taken his time to be with us, and I don't wanna stop him,
[01:25:39] Unknown:
from injecting something. Yes, Larry?
[01:25:43] Unknown:
Yeah. So just to just to follow-up, is it safe to conclude that country is associated with land and nation is associated with the people because Brent was talking about how he used the word generation and so the nations were generated out of the loins of the patriarchs And so I'm thinking country is associated with the land because the Lord said to Abram to get out of thy country and away from thy kindred. So the kindred would be the nation and the country would be the land. So the Lord said to Abraham, in other words, get out of your country and get away from your nation.
[01:26:26] Unknown:
Would is that safe to conclude? Yeah. Yeah. I applaud you just bringing this up because you're getting right down to the bottom and you're you're these are the controlling questions. The word country and the and the most of the translations, King James, let's just talk about that. Beautiful translation, but it's not accurate at every point. No, no. It wasn't intended to be, by the way. It was intended to be beautiful, and that would make it memorable. And that way, the King James would overcome the King James Bible would overcome the influence of the Geneva Bible. That's why it was done the way it was done. The most beautiful piece of of, English literature ever created. And the only piece of classic English, English litter literature created by a committee, but accuracy was not its goal. And so when you see the word country, you see the word country.
Sometimes it should be translated land. I make the distinction because the word utterance in Hebrew is land. The word for country is a different word. Adama, God made man out of, Adama, like, which is clay of a red hue. And, and he called him Adam. He made it out of a man out of Adam, called him Adam. We are taken from the land. My friends, the, the, the, the, the, and the is, should always be translated land. It's often translated earth. The King James Bible will translate it earth land country. I like to keep it clear. The different words mean different things. Even if they're synonyms, they stress a different point. For example, the Bible says Genesis one, one, Bara sheath Bara Elohim Eth Hashemaim.
Now watch this. Eth Land. In the beginning, God created the skies, plural, 'shemayim, and the land. Singular. 'aretz. But the King James translates earth. Nothing really wrong with that. But when I think of earth, I think of, I think of this terrestrial sphere. Well, that's not what that means. It just means land and that the way they understood it and the way we understood it, I look out here, it looks pretty flat to me. I don't know. I mean, it's got rolling Hills and stuff, but that's the way they would say it. Land is land. Adama is off, should be translate, could be translated country, but the English word country has the connotation of culture in it too. See, there's a mix in there. So what, what is the goal of the translator?
Well, the goal of this translator is to make clear those distinctions. That's not easy to do. It takes a lot of knowledge of English. The problem with translators of the Bible is they know Greek, they know Hebrew, they know Aramaic, and maybe another 15 Semitic tongues, which are cognates of Hebrew. But what they don't know well is English. And that's my conclusion after over four decades of working, trying to translate, English is the thing we need to know. And us as Americans, as the English have said, the Americans haven't spoken English in years. We, we just throw words around like cord wood, and we don't care what they mean. Just so we think we get the idea out. Well, that's true. But when it comes to translation, those meanings of those words that God used in those tongues to put the Bible on paper, so so to speak, to put it in writing.
Those words are their meanings are fixed at this point. Those languages are not spoken anymore, and that's a good thing because we don't have to think they haven't morphed over the centuries. So we have to know those tongues and but we have to know English exceedingly well. And that means Anglo Saxon in my book and all the other Latin words that we bring in. And the King James did that a lot. They rested on the Latin a lot and a lot of Latin words in the King James Bible and the others too, but I wanna get rid of those. I want Latin words or long words. So you got country, you got nation.
Those are the two main ones. And remember our law of the land isn't called our common law is not called the law of the land for nothing. It's called the law of the land. In fact, the word, the phrase common law is relatively new in history. Before that, it was called the law of the land. That's why Magna Carta says law of the land, chapter 39. Law of the land, Latin in Latin lexterum. Well, that's what, that's what they called their common law at that time, but we still did that some, and that's why it's in article six of our constitution, the Supreme law of the land, not the Supreme law, but the Supreme common law, the Supreme process, the Supreme way, the due process, not the substantive law, not the outcome standards do not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. That's not what our constitution is. Our constitution is a brief of a slice of our common law of government.
It doesn't apply to you and me. It applies to those in government to limit them, not me. That's what our, but that's part of our common law tradition. So when you said, for example, this was good. You said Abraham came out of, you know, come out of your country and away from your kindred, kindred, that's an as Anglo Saxon word, a good one. It means your kin. And sometimes it's used to talk about your kith, your kith and kin. You've heard that phrase, kith a kin or your blood relatives. I talked about my first cousins and my uncles and my aunts. I was talking about my kinfolk. But when I talk about my kids, I talk about those people that may be closer than kinfolk.
Because I, well, like the Bible says, a friend can be closer than a brother in the book of Proverbs. Well, I found that to be true. My own brother, sometimes we're some terrible odds, but I've had friends that look after me. Well, that's Kith and Ken, and those are kind of meshed together in reality and God's law to form your culture, the people you're comfortable with. I have friends have said, Oh, I'd love to belong to a black church. I had a lady friend she's gone now. She was a charismatic Pentecostal type Holy roller Christian type person. I just love to go to black churches. And I said, well, I've I've been to a few of them. It's very entertaining, cause very much different, very, demonstrative, very emotional and it's refreshing. And I didn't mind it, but I don't want to go to church there every Sunday. Why? Oh, those aren't my kith and kin. I don't understand that culture. I it I I I wanna be respectful of other men and of other races, and I I wanna do that because God says to, and I I wanna do it at every point. Even if they're my enemies, I don't wanna torture them. You've heard me say, I don't wanna no. God doesn't allow that. He says respect. Even if you have to kill another man, you don't do it disrespectfully.
I know that sounds funny, but that's what the Bible demands. You show respect. And I'm not comfortable with other people's kith and kin like I'm comfortable with my own. Oh, I love it to get together with my own folk that I understand. And in our own country, we've had that common culture. I meet people from California. I grew up in the Midwest and they're from California and the Ohio Valley, I like to say. And and, we used to say eeny, meeny, miny, moe. And we had other things that we said that they're no longer acceptable when we use that. And I talked to people from California, and they say, yeah. We did the same thing. Why? Well, we share a common culture. I could go on and on. I've got a whole list on my desktop here of, of American slang and American phrases.
I'm surprised I've got two, three hundred of them that are unique to us as Americans that we have in common and make us feel we have, as we say, I was overseas a hundred years ago before the flood of Noah. And I was in the Far East and, went to J Pan for a short time and I was on a train and I'm looking over the sea of Oriental faces. It was just massive, just nothing but Oriental faces. And I saw a white face immediately. I felt a commonness with him. I found my way through the crowd. I said, where are you from? He told me he's from America. See, when you're away from America, you have what, people call a propinquity, a propinquity.
You have a commonness. Now when I'm in The States, if I see somebody that I think is an American, I don't have that propinquity. But one time I was at the airport in Oklahoma City. I was waiting to get on the plane, and the girl was looking at me, staring at me. And a woman at that point, I looked over at her, and she was staring at me. And I kept blancing at her. She kept staring. And I looked at her, and I fixed my eyes on her, and I kept staring. She stared, just stared at me. And finally, after a long time, just before I got on the airplane, she walked over and she said, Brent, I said, Trina, all of a sudden when I heard her voice, then it all, my childhood came back to me.
And I we had this reunion and we put our arms around each other. We remembered each other and we were I was in a in a a Walmart or some I think it was a oh, I don't know what it was. It was a grocery store in, Gallup, New Mexico or one of the no. It wasn't Gallup. It was Santa Rosa. One of those towns. I was in an aisle, and there was these, these, they were Navajo or Hopi, an old man and an old woman. I mean, walking with canes. They were and all of a sudden they, they came to the end. I was in the middle of the aisle and they were at both ends. I glanced to saw them and they looked at each other and they started walking as fast as they could walk with their canes toward each other. And when they got to each other, they dropped their canes and embraced.
And I could see the tears coming down. I don't know what it was, whether they were brother and sister or just childhood friends or what, but there's that propinquity when you see somebody among other people and the further you get from home, the more sensitive that propinquity comes to us. And I want to be with my kid and Ken just because I understand them and they understand me. And so I'm more comfortable there And that's the way God made us. That's why I say nationalism is what he ordains for a lot of other reasons in the Bible too. But nationalism is a good thing. Okay. We have this place called America and we have this nation in the Bible. We have the word Goim, which means nation. It doesn't mean Gentile. I want to drop a footnote about that briefly, if I may, Roger, because the word Gentile is misused to drive a wedge. Watch this to drive a wedge between people that are, that practice the Jewish religion and other people. That's what that's for. The Bible never uses it that way. As a matter of fact, in all those times, and you mentioned how many times it's used, you look at, if you trace through every use of that word, I've done that. I've traced every use of that word in the Bible.
And I find plenty of places where it's used to speak of everyone, including Israel, everyone. So it's a word that goyim means all nations, but sometimes in some context, it'll say these nations and this nation it's used in all combinations, but to take it and say that people that don't follow the Jewish religion are goingyim and those that do follow the Jewish religion or, are not going is false. It is the, it is the tendency of all people to think that they're the master race. Oh yeah, no question. That's a pandemic always has been among mankind. The Sioux Indian, the Sioux Indian tribe, the word Sioux means human being.
See in their minds, they were the only, that's the only way you could translate it. They're the ones that thought all the other Indian tribes are animals. See, but we're the we're, we're above all others. See, we're greater than them. And, people that are, well, all races do that. The, the master race we're better. And the reason we do that is because we don't know anything else often. And we think, well, the way we're doing it is right. And our culture is best. And well, it may be, you don't think it is. If it's Christian culture. Yeah. It's best. There's no question about it.
We're talking about that, those kinds of things in our Christian nationhood class. But what I've discovered in the Bible is I'll give you my, just my testimony. What seems to be right. If you look close, what you think is right, we'll find out that God's law, God's will, the will of the sovereign is just a little bit different. It may not be wholly different than what you think is right naturally, but it's going to be a little different and we need that badly. We need the balance of God's will, God's law. What is the relationship between man and woman? What are the roles? What is the dignity of, of our roles and our different spheres of jurisdiction? As, the old Dutchman said, what was his name? He was prime minister. He's the only only prime minister to ever address Congress before up until that time, nineteen o seven.
But he and he he said that Christianity, he's right. God, the kingdom of God is the, his dispensing, his delegation of separate, separate spheres of authority among nations and among men and among property owners and among families. And we are not, we're to respect those separate jurisdictions. We're to respect Germany. They're going down the tubes. You know, the Bible says you're not going to persuade a man that insists upon destroying himself from destroying himself. And that's the way God under hinder his laws allows his enemies to be destroyed. He just lets them go. Okay. That's what you want. I'll just give you your head. And now the tubes you're going to go. And if we interfere with that, he's going to put a hurting on us. Here's the southern
[01:40:21] Unknown:
Pardon? Here's the southern version of that. Give a monkey enough rope, and he'll hang himself every time.
[01:40:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. Slit their own throats with their own tongues. Go ahead. Somebody said something.
[01:40:35] Unknown:
Brent, this is the last thing, and I think there's another student a little while ago that was trying to ask a question. So the modern day the modern day word state, do you believe that that's a combination of country and nation? Roger teaches that we as nationals, we go by the definition in the statutes at large and The United States code and that is a national is a person who owes permanent allegiance to a small s state. So is our allegiance to the country and to the people in that country,
[01:41:12] Unknown:
is that what you would No. Say would be a good conclusion?
[01:41:16] Unknown:
No, no, no. Thanks again. That's, your questions are fundamental. I love them. No, our allegiance is to our land. L a n d right here. It is bounded by a, by a boundary. And God wants that boundary when God first dispensed, gave responsibility for land. The first time we have in history, when that happened is the Garden Of Eden, that word garden, the Hebrew word gam means walled, walled, a walled garden park. That's what that word means. And he had a, there was a boundary and he was responsible to keep anything that God didn't want in there in there. And if you found it in there, he was to get it out and he failed to do that. So what did God do? He said, I'll make that, like he says later, the Israelites, I will make the land vomit you out. He threw our grandma and grandpa, Adam and Eve out of that bounded land. God has given us a land. He has bounded it with a boundary. He expects us to maintain the integrity and keep things out we don't want in. That's why it's so you don't have a country.
These are principles of nationhood from the Bible. And if we don't follow them, we will lose our country. And that's what appears to be happening for whatever reason. Reason now we're trying to define our boundaries. And if we don't, we'll lose our country. Even at international law, which is a common law of nations, we call it. There are three requirements for nationhood. Number one, you must have a bounded territory. You must have a bounded territory of land that forms a closed as it were polygon, a closed figure in two dimensions.
That's the number one requirement. Number two requirement. You must have a people that's exist. Like you said, inhabit domicile is not a bad word. If you understand it, according to our common law, we can talk about that sometime, but they're in there and they call it home. What is home? Home is that place from once you have departed, you are a stranger till you return. That's home to them. So you have abounded land home. Third, this is the final requirement. There must be a law common to the people of that land of that land.
This is our common law tradition. This is the law of nations too. We recognize it that way. And that's the way God sets it forth for the nation Israel. When he gave them a land, he gave them a deed to the land. That's the book of Deuteronomy. He gives the precise boundaries according to the meets and bounds method, which we still use at common law. And no other words points, and you form on, on, on the, on the ground, a polygon, a figure that closes the boundary closes. That's our country. That's our States. That's our counties. That's our townships.
That's our water districts. That's our own land that we own our own homes, our own houses. When we have jurisdiction, I even say to people, if you live under a bridge, for whatever reason, God's allowing you to live under there. You keep God's order under that bridge and you take care of it and you here's what you don't do. Or he'll throw you off of it. You don't pollute it. He is the elodial landlord. He decides who occupies his land. And that's why we're here for whatever reason. We're not here because we're good people. We're here because the folk were here before us. God was displeased and they polluted the land. That's what the Bible says. And do you see that over and over and over with the prototype of all nations, which is Israel and the other nations around them too, but the prototype is Israel, a bounded land.
Back to you, Roger.
[01:45:05] Unknown:
There was another student, and I wanna say hello to Paul before the show ends. I guess he can hang around a little bit, hopefully. Good to see you, buddy. Who's the other student that had a question a few minutes ago? Hell hello. Hello? It's it's Chris. It's Chris from California.
[01:45:20] Unknown:
Hello. This is a very important it's a very important and pressing issue right now, and I need to address Brent about this. Now Brent, I've been attending your in church on Sundays. And, last Sunday, after in church, another program came on with a man that's kinda hard to listen to, but he interviewed a lady who lost her a lady and her son lost their house because it was stolen from them by people who used the legal process of trust deeds to set up a situation where they foreclosed on her house and got her evicted out of her house. And now she's living in her car and she doesn't know what to do. She's in Long Beach. I'm right next to Long Beach right now.
And, I would like to know how to get in touch with her because I've been very successful dealing with this type of situation on three occasions now, whereby doing a quiet title or whatever we had to do, we got the properties back.
[01:46:38] Unknown:
Okay? Well, I I listened to that too, and I know what you're talking about. And what I can do, if I can remember, you get in chat and remind me if you're there next Sunday, and I will tell the host of that program, that's Michael, and say, listen. This guy wants to get in touch with this lady. And, and then he can tell us how to get in touch with him or her, maybe. Is that a good idea?
[01:47:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He said he was gonna have her on again. That would be great. I haven't been on chat. I want to learn how to do that. But, yeah, it's, yeah, we would in her situation, I would recommend immediately doing a quiet title action and then trying to get the authorities to come in with a criminal action. But first, you've gotta get your evidence together and search for the record and so forth, find out what's happened in court and what's, you know, what the status of the property is. But, but three times now, I've successfully gotten the property back one way or another.
[01:47:43] Unknown:
And I've heard other people have done. That's a scam that's going around the whole country.
[01:47:48] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. It is. And it could be broken up. It can be broken
[01:47:53] Unknown:
up. Yeah. Yeah. But Jesus Christ said you he said this to the Phariseites. You devour houses of husbandless women. That's by the letters, what it says.
[01:48:06] Unknown:
And it's exchanged.
[01:48:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. In that case, nothing's changed. I've seen it over and over what Jesus Christ said. His words are as fresh as the morning they're applicable right now. Things have not, this is not ancient history. Men and their depravity have not changed. Thanks for bringing that up.
[01:48:28] Unknown:
Yep. Now, Paul Thank you. Are you still are you still there, Paul? I think you are. I see that Yorkshire rose up there. Well, I don't wanna ignore our visitors, especially when they take time out of their schedules like Paul leads. So alright, buddy. Well, if you're walking away or whatever when you get back and, we hopefully wanna speak with you, it means we'll probably be hanging around after the show's over today. Anybody else have any questions for, for Brent? There's Joan. You yes, Joan?
[01:49:02] Unknown:
So, Brent, did you say that state is the same as your country?
[01:49:10] Unknown:
The state Well, you're doing a claim? Yeah. Yeah. You're doing a good job of following up and making sure I do what I'm supposed to do, and I appreciate that. No. I didn't get to that. So let me let me say a little bit about it. State. I wanna recommend you oh, if I could think I think of things that I've read in books. No. Here's his name. His name is Albert Nock, n o c k, n as in November, o as in Oscar, c as in Charlie, k as in kilo. Albert Nock. I believe he was an Episcopalian clergyman. I don't remember, but he was, he was active back during the Franklin Roosevelt administration before world war two. And he became incensed upon, overall of the unconstitutional things that FDR was doing. And one of the things that bothered him was that, Roosevelt was forming corporations. The constitution of The United States does not give the general government in Washington DC authority to form corporations.
Like, water districts and TVA and Tennessee Valley Authority at home. We had the Wabash Valley Authority, which is still active. And, but that was just a little bit of it. Then he goes into, he wrote a piece called the state, the state, and in that he very, very, good communicator. He makes, makes the point that the state is not the country and he distinguishes the state. Now I, I know that people don't always see it this way, but I think what he said needed to be said the way he said it, what he said was this, for example, Hegel was a German philosopher, terrible man, terrible man. And what he said, he said that of course, Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was a German philosopher. Somebody wants to read a book or wrote a book, seven men that rule the world from the grave. And why is it that we that's why is it that we follow the ideas of dead German philosophers? You know, but we do and they're wrong, you know, Hegel, I believe he's the one that said the state is God walking on earth and knock catalogs all the men in his, in recent history that have said those kinds of things in different ways. See, the church of Rome says the same thing. The state, the Vatican America has recognized Vatican as a state. And the Roman official Roman doctrine is the state, the Vatican, the Roman church is God on earth.
The Pope stands in the place of Jesus Christ. That's false. That's the very definition of antichrist, by the way. Men that say fundamentally, they stand in the place of Jesus Christ. And then you have, expansions of that where people say I'm I'm just God on earth. And that's what Hitler said. The oath was to him, and he had the power of life and death over everybody. He was government by a single will. The code of Bismarck that he ruled under was put in place about 1900. That was the the Roman Empire code of Justinian, the same thing as the canon civil laws of the church of Rome. And he had a lot of good ideas. I'm not faulting that part of it. But once you have that kind of a government in place, the useful idiots of the evil empire will take over, and they will destroy you. And that's what happens when see, if you have one government with a single will, that makes sense to us. We're logical. But what if you got three branches of government and nobody has the right to tell the other one what to do in the final analysis?
That didn't make sense to us. But that's the way God says he wants men to govern. The common law tradition is his government, my friends. He gave it to those people that put it together and got it down to a fine point in in England and in Scotland. And then the thing came to America, and we tried to during the English civil war, the people that came to New England wanted to form that government here and rule England from New England. They didn't wanna come here to get away from it. No. They just saw that things are so bad in England. We're not gonna be able to rule England.
[01:53:32] Unknown:
Well, you know, it's funny thing, Brent. We may be able to straighten them out now. Well well, isn't it something, though, that they the you know, our forebears
[01:53:42] Unknown:
are Christian men. They had flaws. I mean, I've read the Puritans and their writings. They had some ideas that and different ones of them were off, and they had, again, wound up and bound up in their own whims and difficulties, but they were right headed. I like to draw a distinction between being right headed and being righteous. We've come to believe that the word righteous means perfect. It doesn't. You know, William Tyndale invented that word when he translated the Bible into English for the first time, and he's the where the from from the original tongues for the first time, William Tyndale. And he saw that word, that Hebrew word Sadiq. And he said, well, I see what that word means. It means, in English, right wise, right wise.
But he said, that's too cumbersome to, I'd have to say in some context to make it flow, right wise ness, right wise ness. Well, what does that mean? That means you're headed in the right direction. If you're going clockwise, that's, that wise on the end is a suffix that indicates the direction you're going clockwise or counterclockwise, or I've said to a judge before, well, I wanna make sure this sound this is sound law wise. In other words, I wanna make sure we're heading headed in the right direction here, according to the law. Well, that word wise means to be headed in the right direction. But he said I gotta get rid of that because it's too cumbersome. Instead of saying right wiseness, I'm gonna invent a word. And he did. He put it in the Bible. Eight, 80 to 90% of the King James Bible is William Tyndale, by the way. Those translators didn't do that much work. They didn't really translate it all. They checked it with the original tongues, but they followed Tyndale. And every translation we've had ever since, ever since in English has been Tyndale to a great degree because everything since King James has been a revision of any popular note has been a revision of the King James right up until 1971, until the new American standard Bible came out. You see the English people, the government of England said, we've got to revise the King James, but they didn't do it until 1881.
That's what six hundred years. Let's see. No, not six hundred years. Yeah. Six hundred years before they even see see, that's in a government project. You gotta remember the King James. And so the Church of England being part of the government, they finally said we need to revise it. They did it in 1881. The Americans were involved in that, but they had to sign a covenant that they wouldn't publish an American version for, I think it was fourteen years or something. I forget. But as soon well, no. It'd been twenty years. Because as soon as that was up, they had that American version ready of a revision of the King James, and that became the American standard version of nineteen o one, which never got any traction. And there were other versions they tried to get traction. The new American Standard Version got traction in 1971, but it wasn't based upon the King James. They went straight to the original tongues and stuck with that all the way through. That's why it's called new American Standard Version to distinguish it from the one that was based on the King James.
But they,
[01:56:42] Unknown:
now I've talked about I like Bible translation, and I'd like to talk about it. And then I forget what what we were talking about, Roger. Well, we're we're talking about you giving all your credentials here because we got about two minutes left in the program. Oh, okay. Folks that are impressed with everything they heard and don't know
[01:56:59] Unknown:
can find you. Thank you. I won't do that, Roger. But before I do, real quick, will you tell me what the question was? I don't I don't wanna get off of it. I wanna remember it for next time. Oh, Joan and her, comparison. Oh, yeah. Joan. Hey. Albert. Just go to Albert Moore. So so so you're saying
[01:57:16] Unknown:
that, country and land generations, its people and the state is God.
[01:57:23] Unknown:
Well, the state, the state, the state. Yeah. I would say that ought to be viewed as God walking on earth, but that's wrong. That's paganism. That ain't right. So, but that's what governments want you to think. The state, you know, which really is just a Latin word means the status quo, the staticness of it. It doesn't change. And that's what they want. The Democrats have been in power. They are the status quo. They are the state. They don't wanna change. They wanna retain the power. Let me get to my points here real quick. I wanna tell everybody out there, everybody out there that I appreciate you asking me questions because you tripped my trigger. I get to talk about the things that I like, and I'm humbled all the pieces. I just pray that I say things that are proper and right and that that whatever I say is taken properly, and it will go to the rejuvenation and give us our country back and give back. And like, Paul says over there in the old country, Yorkshire, he wants his country back. John Knox said in Scotland, just give me my country back. That was his cry during the reformation.
And we should be saying that to our God, my friends pray that our God, he's the landlord as the loyalty to his land and taking care of his land that he wants. He will give us our country back. If we will, here's the, here's what we gotta do. Men, men, I'm not talking to women. If my people are called by my name, there's that word people that's in Chronicles in the Bible. My people who are called by my name, who's that? That's the militia. If they will fall in their faces, if they will worship me, not the women, the men, all the women, they need to worship God too. I get it. But that's not the problem. We're the problem, men. We're not worshiping our God. We have given up our territory. We have given up our roles. We have retreated from the field. And God said, I'm not gonna give you that option, Adam.
You don't have that option. This is Brent Allen Winters common lawyer dot com. W w w dot common lawyer dot com. Go to the website. Get the Bible translation, the winterized version. You could get it in digital or hard copy. The comparative law text, excellence of the common law. You can take the law classes at Winter's Inn. We're teaching one now on all variety of subjects. You can see it there on the website, commonlawyer.com.
[01:59:36] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger, also, of course. Well, Brent, it's always a pleasure to have you. I know the audience loves you, and we need these spiritual foundations shored up and defined at times so the miners and sappers from the other side don't get under there. And, Brent will, be over through you can contact his shows through, his website commonlawyer.com, and we'll be back tomorrow on the Saturday edition. So, we'll see you there or he'll see you over there or whatever. We'll see you soon in either regard. Brent, we'll probably have a little discussion here, I would think, because Paul's still with us and wanna at least say hello to him. Took the trouble to come over here and hang with us.
So, anyway, we'll see you soon. I hope you got something out of it, and, we keep putting one step in front of the other and see where the path goes.
[02:00:30] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. Thank you, Paul. Both Pauls. Appreciate you.
[02:00:34] Unknown:
Yep. Thank you, Francine. Good to see you, sweetie. And, I'd have you play us a song, but we're right at the end of our program. So Nice to see you, Roger. You may do that next week. I think we're done. So, Paul Beaner can whip us off of the Eurofolk, and we can continue on the other stream. Still being recorded. Paul, have we raised you yet? Are you back around the mute button? Doesn't seem to be. Roger? Okay. Yes. There's Larry again. Yes, sir?
[02:01:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So, Brent, you're saying that, state is the land. And so when the statutes at large say that a national is a person owing permanent allegiance to a state and that state is not capitalized, that means we owe our allegiance to the land. Is that correct?
[02:01:32] Unknown:
Our allegiance is to the land. And the word state, it has varying definitions, and it it puts different kind of ideas in people's head when they hear that the sound of that word pop in their minds. And so it's you know, words mean what, how people use them often, and we wanna get back to the proper meaning. Roger uses the word, and he I don't he's not meaning it in the pagan way. When I, for example, I speak of states of The United States. And when I write about states of The United States, I say, okay. We call them states. I'm not gonna change that. And I always capitalize it so I know and make the distinction between the state in the evil sense and the capital word. You know, words are every word. I don't care what it is. It's context dependent. It can be used in an evil sense Yeah. To talk about evil things or bad things or mediocre things or good things.
One example we're talking about in Christian nationhood, Roger, I'll it won't take long with this one. I'll just spit it out. The word apostle and the word apostate are Greek words from the New Testament. They're both from the same root. Apostle, actually, in a positive sense, apostate. That's the man that commits the The other son, he lives. Logan. That's the man that Her mouth was.
[02:02:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Pardon me? They they Who's that coming from?
[02:02:48] Unknown:
Somebody there's a conversation.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
To get
[02:02:51] Unknown:
can we get that muted out, please?
[02:02:55] Unknown:
Apostate apostate is the same say I just wanna say so many things. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They're
[02:03:01] Unknown:
having a side rather, having a side conversation. Paul, can you mute their conversation?
[02:03:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I hear this. I see. I see. Is everything perfect with these papers? No. No. They don't. But I created snow too. And I'd like to You gotta have Paul police it to find them.
[02:03:17] Unknown:
There they are. No.
[02:03:20] Unknown:
Apostate
[02:03:21] Unknown:
and apostle are from this are the same root Greek word from the new Testament, but they mean one is positive. Apostle is a positive thing. That's God's people. Apostate is a man that's committed the unforgivable sin. All words are that way. All prepositions, all nouns, all verbs, it depends upon their context and state. The word state is like that. It also depends upon how a word person is using it. I wish it wasn't that mushy, but it is Mhmm. Because people are not persnickety about the meanings of words, and they just throw them around like nothing. And pretty soon, we get confused. Go ahead, Roger.
[02:03:59] Unknown:
Karl Marx. A word is a skin of a thought.
[02:04:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He's right about that. And you can your people put all sorts of ideas in there in that skin. Well, you we I always looked at, like, we we communicate through concepts.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
The concepts are identified by words, and that's where they're getting us. They're just slipping an anti concept in there. Was that you, Larry, again?
[02:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. So, Brent, you're saying that, state when when the definition of state is the Lord walking on the land, that that's paganism. And, I did is that, is that true?
[02:04:36] Unknown:
No. No. Oh, well, the definition of a state is this is the definition of antichrist that some man or some combination of mere mortals or some, some idol, some statue or some icon stands in the place of God himself. That's the fundamental meaning of and that's what Rome says. That's what Hitler said. That's what Hegel said. The state is God, the true God walking on earth. But in other cultures, they would say the state is our God and the false, whatever that false God is walking on earth. In other words, for example, I've used this, the Rome right on there. They say, well, the Pope is the Vicar of Christ. Vicar. What does that mean? Most of the same word is Latin word is vice. It means in place of that's what the word anti means in Greek, in the Greek tongue. It means in place of instead of, well, I'm in place of Jesus Christ. I'm not here. I'm not against Jesus Christ. People say the charismatic TV preacher who rules his church by a single will. I'm, I'm not here. And, I'm not against Jesus Christ, but he has given me all authority here. So my word is final. That's antichrist.
And the Bible says there are many antichrist among you. It's first John, by the way, John's the only man that uses that word, Antichristos, and he defines it very well. And I talked, told the story about John Knox, his first sermon at St. Andrew's Castle in Scotland. And he was taken prisoner there after that sermon, but he preached on the definition, the biblical definition, how the Bible uses the word Antichristos in the new Testament. And what I just said to you is the same thing he said. And anybody that studies the Greek tongue knows anti means instead of primarily well is, are those people that say that they're here in place of Christ and they want to help Jesus Christ.
Are they against him? You bet they are. Jesus Christ doesn't give that jurisdiction up to anybody. They may not know they're against him. They may know they're against him either way. It doesn't make any difference. Jesus Christ said there's only one mediator you got to go through to get to God And that's him and anybody else, any Saint, any, Pope, any patriarch, any clergyman, any college professor, any government, any sub, any court that's inserts itself between you, you and the vault of heaven is an antichrist is antichrist and God won't tolerate it.
Don't put anything between you and God except Jesus Christ. And the, but the fascinating thing about this all is Jesus Christ is God. He's a member of the Godhead. He's also fully man. He is the, he is the only man in all of the creation where God and man meet, and therefore that's where man, that's the only place and the only person where man can meet God, Jesus, the Christ. That's what the Bible teaches in unmitigated terms. Yeah. Go ahead.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Go ahead. Yeah. So, I looked up the word state in in the King James Bible, and it's used 15 times. And only one time is it used diff different as far as I could see. The other 14 times it's usually referring to a man's countenance and then I found one time because and the reason I'm bringing this up is because when you said before that state I guess when it's being used in an evil manner like antagonism, you said state is referring to God walking on the land. I'm wondering if they get that from two Chronicles 2four 13 because this is the only time that state is not used to refer to a man's countenance and that verse says, so the workmen wrought and the work was perfected by them and they set the house of God in his state and strengthened it.
What are your thoughts on that?
[02:08:41] Unknown:
Well, the the pronoun there would probably be properly translated, not his state, but its state, but they've translated it in the masculine because it's a masculine pronoun. But the word state, for example, the Bible says, the S the, the latter state was worse than the first state. Now I'm not trans or, quoting exactly, but the word state means status. It's a Latin word. It means the way things are. It can be used in that sense. And that's the sense I take it there. But I would suggest to you, I can see your head is deep in the Bible. And, if you get the winterized version, I address a lot of these things, but you've just made a point to me that I need to put a appendix in my Bible in, the winterized version. I've got about 200 now. I need one, on the state to, to talk about that word. See, these are, these are English words, Latin words. That's not what God said exactly. How do we get the point across about what God said and how he uses these concepts?
And the winterized version is focused on that alone. I'm not, I didn't translate the Bible for other people. I didn't translate the Bible for white acceptance. I didn't translate the Bible to make money. I translated the Bible for me to teach from. And if you want, if people want access to it, they can get it. And, I'm the only Bible translator in the English that I know of that has done that. I didn't do it to sell it. Know, even the best of translations are done for, for, to make sales and make money or done for political reasons like the King James or the Geneva Bible was done for an important reason. That's the one that the King James is competing with. All these translations for political and money reasons compete, and they compete hard.
They want them and they want it to be readable. If it's not readable, I'd just say my Bible or trans my translation is not all that smooth. It's not smooth English at every point because I try to be utterly literal. I try to use for every Hebrew root, I try to use the same English root. For every Greek root word, I always try to always translate it with the same in the English root. Now sometimes it's almost impossible and I'll hyphenate a word because it doesn't make any sense at all. I know what it means. A good translation ought to be, you ought to be able to look at a good translation and back translate it into the original tongue if it's a good translation. And that's my goal with my Bible so that when I'm teaching, I look at when I teach on Sundays on Patriot or what are we doing? We're on the platform. We'll go to the website, commonlawyer.com and you can see how to join us on Sundays and Saturdays. When I teach through books of the Bible, When I teach, I've got that in front of me. And when I look at those, the English translation, I know what the original tongues say because I'm the guy that did it. And I try to be consistent with all my words. And if there's, there's 35,000 footnotes and if there's a difficulty, I'll put it in the footnote and explain why it translated the way it did and what the word means, the English or the Greek or Hebrew word. So I you're obviously into the Bible.
I want you to have that Bible, and you can get it in digital form. You can do word searches that way, and you can get it in hard copy. It's in five volumes now because of all the appendices and footnotes. But in the footnotes, about 35,000 of them, I cite the King James language in the footnotes. And the reason I do that, King James, because it's most familiar with people that are really interested in the Bible. That's the, it's the Bible I'm familiar with because I grew up with it. And really when I was growing up, we didn't know there was much anything else. And so when I think of a Bible verse, I I think of the language of the King James. It's all there. And I put it in there so people can do word searches if they are used to the well, I know when I was a kid, I learned in the King James. I remember this word, and you can do a word search in the digital form and find it in the footnotes often. And then you can learn something about that word because I have footnotes about the Greek and Hebrew words.
Well, I appreciate it all. Did I did I answer your question?
[02:12:53] Unknown:
Yeah. I just, in a closing comment, I just wanna say that, I agree that the, King James Bible has been monkeyed with. It seems like the, the translators had an agenda. And like for example, I was listening to a preacher one time and he was talking about the verse that says that the steps of a good man are ordered from the Lord and he was saying that that word good was inserted in the King James translation that that's not found in the original manuscript and even if it was, it would contradict Romans because the Bible says there is none righteous, there is none good And so it appears that the King James translators had an agenda with monk you know, they were monkeying around with certain verses.
[02:13:44] Unknown:
Oh, no question. You're right on the money. That's true about that. And that it does contradict Romans comes back to the basic nature of nature of man. Jesus Christ said, wait a minute. They said, good teacher. The Pharisees said, good teacher. And he said, yeah. Woah. Right there. Pull up your horses. There is none good but God. Who what are you saying? I'm a good guy? Are you admitting that I am God? This is a fascinating when you get, but yeah, there were about 200 words that, King James ordered his translators to keep. And if his translating team are about 54 of them, if they did not swear to support the law of the city doctrine, divine right of Kings, they couldn't be on his translation team. And there were some, eight capable, able translators that were offended beyond defense, that they weren't able to be on the translation team because they because they were, they wanted to follow the common law tradition, which is the biblical tradition, and not not believe in divine right of kings. And the reason that translation happened, it's a government project. Number one, if there's a government project, it's going to promote power of government period.
Let's understand this. And King James, demanded the divine right of Kings. What does that mean? Well, he's the one that invented the words deep state in the English, in the English tongue. We don't see the words deep state until King James and King James said, nobody has any business probing into and finding out what the deep state is really doing. Well, that's, that's where it originated. He was the deep state government, he said, is in the law is in his breast. He's the one that said, a cook. They call him in England. I call him Coke, sir. Edward Coke. He said the King, he pronounced, he thought he was being a nice guy. He said the King protecteth the common law.
And before Coke thought about what he was about to say, he ejaculated and said, nay, sire, the common law protecteth the king. And then all of a sudden the room got silent and sir, Edward Coke fell on his face because he knew his head was in danger. And, but, but he did say it. He made the point that the law protects us all. What's the law, the will of God. That means God protects us all. We are a government. We say in America, we are a government of laws and not men. Well, what does that mean?
[02:16:12] Unknown:
This The best way to warm up your toes. Government is God's business.
[02:16:16] Unknown:
Somebody came on there and said something. Yeah. I think it was,
[02:16:21] Unknown:
just go ahead. I think it was Paul. I mean, I way to warm up your toes? The best way to warm up your toes? It's Paul's icons up there, so I think it's coming from him. But go ahead. Only thing only thing we've heard from Paul is a woman's voice twice today. I have a Roger,
[02:16:43] Unknown:
I have a filing to make, and I gotta go. I gotta meet you. Okay. I can't tell you. California.
[02:16:50] Unknown:
It's Chris from California. Before you go, I just wanna say one thing, Brett, and that is, if we don't get in touch with Michael some kind of way, Roger has my email, and he could contact me that way.
[02:17:03] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. He will. Okay. Okay. I'll I'll try to remember that. Thank you. We'll see if we can help this poor woman out. Yeah. Thank you. Remember, the Jews were hated in Russia for stealing people's houses. Got another female?
[02:17:17] Unknown:
That was me, Roger. I don't know the name, but all he has to do is get into Discord. It's easy to sign up for a Discord account, and then you can talk to Michael directly. He watches the chat every Sunday morning, and just get into Discord and post what you need to post. Very simple.
[02:17:34] Unknown:
Okay. Discord, Francine. Discord dot com. Discord dot com, Chris. I got it. That's the feed that Mike watches during his show. He he's got it. And Michael watches that chat, so should say a shout out to him. Okay. Good. Now, Paul, did you have something to say? Brent, you gotta go and do, hit some timelines, so jet out of here. Okay? Thank you, Paul. Okay, buddy. Enjoyed it. Thanks as always. Thank you, Roger. Appreciate it. Do do y'all realize how lucky we are to have this guy on with us once a week? Do you understand what a national treasure Brent Winters is? I don't know of anybody that could compete with Brent on these levels and these languages and these interpretations, and it's just, I'm we're all blessed. Okay? Just to say that to you. Paul, are you still there? Did you take off or what?
Well, he can't he's listening probably. Well, anybody else got you? There, Roger.
[02:18:40] Unknown:
I see what you did there, Roger. National treasure. I get it.
[02:18:45] Unknown:
I mean, he is, man. I I don't know any other labels to stick on him. Yeah. So I get your treasure. Well, that too. Yeah. No. I get your double entendre. So, Chris, I'm glad to see you're watching, Brent on Sundays. And I've often said to the folks, if you don't have a church home, you might wanna drop in over there. The sermons are Brent telling stories and making, you know, points and emphasizing them. And, and and there towards the end of the show, he gets into his bible stuff. So, anyway, it's yeah. It's great. It's great on Sunday mornings. So, anybody else got anything for me? Everybody's dropping off and Yep. Yes. You do. Alright.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Yeah. The sketch, blessings, Roger. I have a statement and a question, afterwards, that is a different topic. Like, you mentioned the gold coming back to The US. Yes, sir. And I was wondering, you know, we have a lot of big companies with a lot of cash coming back in and a lot of rich people, transferring their dollars back to The United States. I'm wondering if you could see possibly that they are bringing the gold back to buy it up with dollars before it falls, before it all falls. I don't have any idea what all of this is about. I mean, I mean, you got some some suspicions.
[02:20:09] Unknown:
I I just I don't know. And I'm not able to keep up with the financial markets as much as I'd like. But I but Tom d is gracious enough to send me an Andy Schekman interview when they come out, and I still haven't had a chance to watch it. So, anyway, Shaikh, I don't know. I just know if you got any extra dollars, you ought to acquire some. I think it really benefits you.
[02:20:31] Unknown:
I agree. And I don't know who, another comment. I don't know who brought up, the cliff high, article of politicians puking, panicking, and puking, but it's a very good article. I sent it to you. It's short Okay. You did?
[02:20:48] Unknown:
Short, slow, but it's well worth it. Is it is it just an article, or is it a tape?
[02:20:54] Unknown:
It's a short article, of a sub stack.
[02:20:59] Unknown:
And Alright. I'll look at it. It's hard for me to read, but go ahead.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
Yeah. I I understand that. And also, would you say equivocation is the modus operandi of the state?
[02:21:16] Unknown:
I think it's the well, of the of the evil state, certainly enough. And I believe, as I said on Rents, I think it must have the idea must have come from Sabotage v. And the fact that these people are Sabotage and Frank as Zionists, and that's where it really pops out in history to me for the first time, and affects a a group of people. I mean, Sabotage v had a a a sizable following around the world. I don't know how much percentage wise. It wasn't half, but they were sizable nonetheless. And then when he died and and and Frank took over, he expanded that. There were more Jews around the world that were into the, sabotage me idea at that point. So that's pretty substantial. And, you know, you know, they're influential people, and I think they took that opposite thing and refined it and developed it. And, that's and uses the absolute foundation of everything they do, it seems like to me.
[02:22:16] Unknown:
Yep. Alright. Thank you so much. Blessings as of March.
[02:22:19] Unknown:
Yeah. It's such an in interesting, deal because they're committed to it now that we understand it. It's an Achilles' heel for them. Because anytime you want an answer to a question, all you do is look a 80 degrees in the opposite direction, and it's there every time because their whole game is to build everything in that manner. So it's a weakness that we've been able to perceive and maybe exploit for some folks as after they learn how to use it a bit.
[02:22:48] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:22:49] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. I have I have a else. This is Chris from California. Hey, Chris. Yeah, man. I have a comment. Yeah. For anybody who wants wants to start acquiring some gold, I would, I'm kind of, you know, associated with that situation. I think for less than the price of an ounce of gold, you can go and get yourself a pretty sophisticated metal detector and go out and have some fun at the abandoned gold mines and pick up some nuggets, which, by the way, nuggets sell for double spot.
[02:23:19] Unknown:
Yep. By the way, you know, Cliff High, speaking of him, years ago, his information showed people out looking for gold all over the country. Yep. That's pretty it'd be great weekend pastime. It's profitable. All that stuff. Good suggestion, Chris. I know the biggest nugget ever found was found with a metal detector. I forget how many kilos it is. I've seen pictures of it. It was it was huge. It's huge. K. So Everybody's California. Somewhere out there. Yeah. So, okay. Anybody else got anything for the Raj? I'm going to have the Friday hamburger for $4.25. You're jealous, aren't you? Okay. Well, I'll see y'all tomorrow.
And, have a a fabulous Friday, and just stay tuned. If that touches you, you've got and I don't know if any of our folks would have assets in Europe. But if you do, you might wanna go listen to that Mike Adams video. You'd probably be able to find it easily. So, we'll see you all tomorrow.
[02:24:28] Unknown:
Thanks very much, Roger. I had a question for the group. I was looking at something that came through from the Old Republic call. And I've only been on one call, but I opened a document that's had the statement. Says that we as Nationals can use the UCC. I didn't know the basis of their statement. It was a guy that was teaching called Ed let's see what his name is here. Welcome, everyone. My name is Edmund George. And so his statement here, I guess, it was it's really nice. It's a whole, old transcript, I guess, of the of his presentation.
I just highlighted I don't know if did anybody else download the topic was how you list your sovereignty by the use of the state birth certificate part two. And trying to find a place in there where it said the national should use the UC okay, example. Okay. Here it is. Sorry. Let's say you had to go can everybody hear me okay? Let's say you had to go to the hospital emergency room and you did not have any insurance, the hospital sends you the bill. So if they eventually you don't pay it and then it goes to a debt collector, a debt collector calls you, you ask them, did you buy that debt from the hospital? They will say, yes.
Will you say, thank you very much. I really needed that help at this time. Then you say, there's no privity of contract. The doctrine of privity of contract is a common law principle, which provides that a contract cannot confer rights or impose obligations upon any person who is not a party to the contract. And then thank you very much. And by the way, that was from Wikipedia. So thank you very much. Have a nice day. End of conversation. The US code was put in place for We The People, American nationals, to hold the government accountable in Title 50 US code. There is a way for you to access your Syspa KV trust to pay off debt.
However, you cannot do it if you're a US citizen. So I don't know if anybody had ever read that or had any enlightenment on that yield. Well, I will mention that Ed George was broadcast on this channel, FCC. And because of this, Paul being so busy, it's no longer broadcast here. And, we love Ed George. I'll just say that. Thank you, Scott. And what was the title of that, so I can put it in the chat, or do you have a date or something like that for that video? Yeah. It was in the most recent, and I apologize, I'm mobile and on a phone, but, it was in the most recent, I believe, email from the Republic call that Phil sends out, and it was a Word doc.
I don't know the title. Oh, actually, I might be able to look that up on my email because I can go to cellular data here. But his topic was how you list your sovereignty by the use of the state birth certificate part two. That was the, topics he was so I didn't I don't know where I might have deleted the the document or the email that had the first, part on there. But, let me see. Republic Education, these emails are unbelievable with the okay, in the email was from Phyllis and it says, birthing certificates 4457, learn the value in two types of birth certificates deception.
So that was if I click on that, takes you to that's you know what, that takes you to an old YouTube by the Australian guy there. George, it's Sherry. Yes. Hi, Sherry.
[02:29:54] Unknown:
Hi. Ed George, Edmond George has, a coaching session tomorrow night. Oh, yeah? Are you some uh-huh. Every weekend.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
Oh, wow. At 6PM
[02:30:09] Unknown:
central time. So it would be 7PM eastern. You're mountain, aren't you? So it'd be five. Pacific, actually. Oh, okay. So then it would be four. Mhmm. So, he's on Rumble, but he also I think his information is in the notice that, Phyllis sends out. So you can be able to you can call in or you can go in by FCC. So
[02:30:39] Unknown:
Oh, great. And then it's that same is it that same number that still sends around?
[02:30:48] Unknown:
As the republic call, no. He has a a different number. And the republic, I I do not believe, carries it, but, you know, I could be, mistaken in that regard. But all of his videos are on Rumble. Ed Ed George forty four. Chat. It's Ed George.
[02:31:14] Unknown:
Thank you, Sketch. 44. Great. Thank you. Ed George forty four in rumble. Okay. Yep. Small yep. I think it's all all small letters, but you can just go Ed George forty four and you'll find it probably. And he does the, he does the live, if you will, call on, cast it on Rumble at the same time?
[02:31:36] Unknown:
You know, I don't in there. I think I I don't know if that comes across Rumble at the same time. I don't know that. I it's my understanding that he uploads it afterwards, but I couldn't be mistaken.
[02:31:49] Unknown:
Yep. That's on a Saturday Saturday, 7PM eastern?
[02:31:56] Unknown:
That's correct.
[02:31:58] Unknown:
Great. Alright. Thank you.
[02:32:00] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[02:32:02] Unknown:
There might be an option to everything there, with the birth certificate. And in the book of the hundreds, they they say, use your baptismal certificate. As a Christian, that is of more importance to you than, birth certificate, and you go by that identity.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Not everybody has one, Samuel.
[02:32:28] Unknown:
No. I'm just saying for it's an option. And it's not parish. You know, being Catholic, you could get baptized when you're an infant. Technically, there's a lot of argument whether that's really valid or not and that we should be doing these potentially as adults or at least of age of maturity, 18 20 one area.
[02:32:57] Unknown:
Just really quick, I thought infants were christened in the Catholic ceremony. It was a christening, not a baptismal. No. It's I have a few friends that are are Catholic, and that's what they called it.
[02:33:16] Unknown:
Well, may maybe it's changed, but, you know, I'm trying to find the diocese that has control of mine right now and get a copy of it. So I I can't even This is private property.
[02:33:33] Unknown:
You just assaulted my tire. I'm gonna put a notice.
[02:33:45] Unknown:
You dropped out? Or did I? Are we still on?
[02:34:05] Unknown:
I'm here, Samuel.
[02:34:08] Unknown:
Oh, sounds like George went away. I also wanted to mention when we're talking about states, the original draft of the constitution that was sent to the Committee of Style, was because a lot of people even wanna say, well, who are these people? Right? Was we the people of the states of and they listed all the states. And the Committee of Style dropped them all because of course, Gouverneur Morris and Hamilton, guys like this, were Federalists, and they wanted this union not to look like it was states, but united, and that's why they did what they did. Mike, Jackie actually has a list of what the Committee of Style did to the approved document and it's quite a bit of damage.
[02:35:17] Unknown:
Who did you say had that list?
[02:35:21] Unknown:
Michael Gaddy.
[02:35:23] Unknown:
Oh, that's it. Thank you.
[02:35:33] Unknown:
I mean, a lot of these guys according to Michael were basically looking for a king on top of it. And they knew they couldn't get that, yet they did their best to put so much power into the presidency, that, well, you can see what we got today. Sort of proof
[02:35:55] Unknown:
on the face of it. Right? Sam, you all have to disagree in that regard, because the original election of the president and vice president was the one with the greatest number of votes was president, and the second greatest was the vice president, and they weren't necessarily of the same party.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Luther Martin, who left the convention because it was being done illegally, of course, they say it was signed unanimously except the guys who left out of disgust, he proposed three presidents from three different regions. That would have sort of put a stop to the civil war, but, you know, it didn't happen. And I think it was a pretty good deal all around, but it was it didn't have the power to protect itself enough and to punish tyrant. I guess that was really Patrick Henry's biggest argument. There's no mechanism here to punish a tyrant. And, you know, by the time we get to the civil war, we got lots of tyrants.
[02:37:11] Unknown:
Mhmm. I think the loopholes were written in to protect the tyrants.
[02:37:20] Unknown:
When I read Brost's, you know, The USA, the republic that nobody lives in, he he said Lincoln just took natural advantage of the power that was given to the presidency. He said it was just a matter of time before somebody did it. Lincoln was the first to essentially become a dictator and it's never really turned around since.
[02:37:49] Unknown:
Are you there? Sorry. I interrupted you. I apologize. I was, I got one of those, chalks across my tire as I was picking up some SharonBox for the for the Saint Patrick's Day. And, so I I said, hey. Are you assaulting my car? He says, actually, under the Ninth Circuit, it was a New York case, but out here, what's appropriate to us was the Ninth Circuit. And we, that's already been settled where we can chalk some, but I get that question all the time. So turns out the parking guy was a former former cop. He says, hey. I do this in my retirement, you know. So this is much easier. But, anyway, I was trying to do some trip reports today, like, I was in the Walmart, and I went up and said, well, I'm not going to kind of what Cheryl was talking about yesterday. I'm not going to pay this, this amount that you're saying because on the shelf it said it was $6.97 now you're trying to charge me $7.53 and the lady said, well, you know, yeah, you're in Washington, so you have to pay that and, you know, doesn't matter, blah blah blah. And I said, okay. Well, you know, I'll kick it upstairs. You know, I won't shoot the messenger here. She says, well, she said, you're being very nice actually. We we've had TV thrown thrown at us when we didn't return something or phones and things like that. I said, gee, wiz. So anyway, sorry to interrupt the flow here, but the lady did that, by the way, at Walmart say, well, what my sister does in Montana, she sends all her receipts in with the taxes and then she gets a check back. I said, well, that's interesting. I don't know if that means she's doing that exemption form or not. But, technically, if we're still on the territory of, you know, created by the the articles of Confederation even if there is a territorial overlay, through DC and and via the, you know, the the fourteenth amendment and all that jazz. Technically, if we're nationals and we've also identified that we're, you know, still part of the republic, that that tax shouldn't apply, I believe. Right? Because that's a personal tax. It's a it's a a tax on what you're what you're what you're buying, right? I don't know. Is that accurate that National shouldn't have to pay a sales tax?
[02:40:37] Unknown:
Wouldn't it be considered an excise tax? Correct. The same for everybody in the region? Doesn't that make it constitutional? I don't know.
[02:40:51] Unknown:
Oh, I see what you're saying.
[02:40:53] Unknown:
Mhmm. Though it's not uniform throughout the states. Right. I yield. Y'all talking about taxes?
[02:41:04] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:41:06] Unknown:
We just had a little incident with, I don't know what's called. Anyway, a phone dealer, and, he said we had to pay taxes. And he said I said, we're nationals. We do not pay taxes. He said, yeah. You got to. And I said, no. We don't. We're nationals. He said, well, if you're not gonna pay the interest I mean, the the what the law says, get out of the store. Get out now. So I went out to the van, brought my brought the affidavit for the, national to the secretary of state office, and I I served it to her. I said, you were served. You are served.
And I had four witnesses in that store watch me serve that guy. I'm throwing it in the trash can. You have been served. You can do whatever you want to with it. You have been served. So I'm gonna do an administrative process on him and charge him. I don't know what kind of dollars I'm gonna try to get out of him, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put it up pretty high.
[02:42:19] Unknown:
And that was to a manager of a store or owner of a store?
[02:42:24] Unknown:
He he works for, one of the one of the, companies that sells, phones. I'm not gonna tell you which one it was. T Family Mobile is what it was. And then he was, I don't know, Mexican or something. You know? And he went back in the back and got the guy, I guess, that was over it. I don't know. He said, what are you doing out here? And I said, well, I'm serving him. He said he said, give me that thing. And he said, we'll throw it in the trash can. We we don't come back here again. And I said, sure. I don't have to come back here again. So I'm gonna do the administrative process on them. And in thirty days, that affidavit has all the facts and and what I'm demanding payment or he he harm me, you know, in a certain way, how much money I'll get out of him?
In thirty days, I take it to after they're secured, in thirty days, like, the half a day with the secretary's day office, I go to, you know, somebody in in government and ask them to, put a statement on their judgment on that, affidavit that I gave, the guy. And it's cured for thirty days, and, this doesn't do. Wouldn't you have I imagine sort of somebody like that can do it.
[02:43:49] Unknown:
So What now? I'm try I'm trying to clarify that. Would you do that in a small claims, or are you going to
[02:43:56] Unknown:
just do it as a common law process, or are you doing it as as a Hang on. Wait a minute. I'm a tell you. Just stop. Look. You well, it's a it's your way of creating the law by that thirty day period. And you put whatever you did, whatever happened, that that and you can tell what kind of weather you even had. If he doesn't answer each one of those entries that you put on that pay piece of paper, it could be two pages. It could be three pages. If he leaves one of those off and he didn't answer any of those, one of them, he's in fault. In half the days, the two weeks, you put him in fault.
He's got two more weeks to answer the whole thing. You don't tell him why he's involved, but he's in fault. And he don't return his answer to you. Nobody involved except you and him at that point in time. After that thirty days, you go in in front of a magistrate or somebody. It's a judge or whatever that might be or even a officer, and get them to read it. And he and they know who it or what it is, it's an affidavit. In thirty days, that thing is a law. If he didn't answer or he didn't answer everything that was put on the the first one.
That's the law. Just like your affidavit secretary of state's office. Do you understand that?
[02:45:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I know the common law process. Yeah, they don't answer, and therefore, it stands as, you know, as the, but are you trying to are you trying to get, like, triple damages out of them? Are you trying to,
[02:45:53] Unknown:
do you Yeah. He that's he's trying to sell okay. He's trying to sell me a phone. That's why I asked for it. I didn't ask for taxes. He's gotta pay the taxes. The businesses have to pay the taxes. They put it on you to do that. Okay? That's what I'm
[02:46:13] Unknown:
doing. Gotcha. So then
[02:46:18] Unknown:
So now I see. You're a national. You're not a US citizen. You're not a US citizen. They pay tax. Of
[02:46:24] Unknown:
course. So Okay. If you so they ignore it, blah blah blah, where do you go for the recourse? Do you go to the corporation of that? Do you what's your Yeah. The corporation is gonna be,
[02:46:40] Unknown:
served too. Same thing he gets. The recourse.
[02:46:46] Unknown:
Okay. And then the insure obviously, they have insurance for, you know, employee things and all that jazz. So Alright. They can they can then come back to you with an offer of either, hey. Here's the phone or here's No. You know, we're we're sorry blah blah blah. Are you gonna have a order in there or a, a settlement in there?
[02:47:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There'll be a lot of how much I I was damaged that day. He assaulted me, and he didn't he didn't obey the law. It's what he did. And it's not commercial law. It is the law.
[02:47:27] Unknown:
And you you can serve that on mhmm. Can you serve that on anybody, or do you have to use, a reg the like, serve it to their to their you know, where their registered agent is? That's because he's an employee. Right? He's a slave, if you will.
[02:47:43] Unknown:
That's where it happened. That's where you serve it on that place and corporate
[02:47:53] Unknown:
office. Interesting. Okay.
[02:47:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Simple. This is simple process. In thirty days, if he don't answer or the corporation don't answer, every line on that, two or three pieces of paper you would bring up, say the sky was a greenish hue. They might not understand what a hue is, but that's color. If they don't answer that that, answer that that, sentence, then they're in fault, and then they're in default at the end of the thing. See, fifteen days, you give them a notice of they're in fault, because they didn't answer every one of those things by then. That gives them notice that they're gonna be in default.
You don't have to say they're gonna be in default. You you just write them a letter with everything that you put in there saying just copies and everything you just gave to them that they're that you're in default you're in fault. And then that's thirty days. If they don't answer, do you send them a letter, with everything that you had put in there with a signed document from the judge. You've been served the affidavit, the cured affidavit. It's the law.
[02:49:19] Unknown:
So which judge I'm sorry. I missed that. Which judge is signing it?
[02:49:25] Unknown:
We got any judge in the in the state or, you know, county or whatever. The lowest person on the on the bench. You don't have to be a, you know, you know, criminal judge or whatever they are in your in your state. You can go to a magistrate. Mhmm. Or you can have witnesses even. You have three three people that, is a friend or whatever. You know? They can Yeah. They can sign it, but, they didn't follow the process.
[02:50:11] Unknown:
Well, that's why I was wondering if you could, you know, have it have them return the, stuff to the notary, you know, like the notary is, kinda acting as the judge, but you can trust it.
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Yeah. You can do that too.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
Good stuff. Thank you.
[02:50:33] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Just simple. Just keep it simple. That's what I say all the time. You know? It's, the same. And it's quick. It's thirty days. And I can go on and on. You know? If they answer everything, it's it's something else. You know? Because they'll add stuff to it, and you answer them back. You got thirty days to answer them back. You know, it's back and forth back and forth sometimes. Nine times out of 10, it's just gonna throw it away.
[02:51:07] Unknown:
What's good about that, if you do do one of these, then you bring that stuff in to every other retailer and say, well, you know, you can, you you know, you can do you can say that I gotta pay it, or we can do it this way. You know? So
[02:51:23] Unknown:
Well, see, they what they did, they were taking my status that I told them who I was and what I was, and they're trying to put their law that they're supposed to do on me.
[02:51:40] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:51:41] Unknown:
So who's who's who's the victim and who's the the, whatever the the villain?
[02:51:48] Unknown:
Now will you will you cite the state laws? Or
[02:51:53] Unknown:
are you is that No. I'm just I'm just having the circumstances in the case. We're not supposed to pay taxes. We're not supposed to have a license. Okay? That's how powerful this thing is.
[02:52:12] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:52:14] Unknown:
A US citizen pays taxes. They have to have a driver's license.
[02:52:20] Unknown:
And in fact, you know, taking that, if that's true and I see I think, you know, we're taking that, like, really organic approach here as we talk. I think we you and I were talking about the other day, the articles of Confederation. If we take this to this level, if we sent in our receipts to the Treasury technically as a national, we're still operating with the original kind of Jacksonian, I guess, pre bankers invasion type of
[02:52:56] Unknown:
Got it. Got it. Got it. Even
[02:52:59] Unknown:
right, even in the exchange of the of the what's now currency, but it would technically, the treasury would have to do the trans you know, do all the accounting to make sure that we're working with lawful money based on who we were, not the fact that we wrote something on a check that said lawful money blah blah blah.
[02:53:17] Unknown:
Their job their administrative job, if you want to administer Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. No. You gotta understand. He wants dollars. The company wants dollars.
[02:53:30] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:53:31] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. You pay him dollars. That's what they want.
[02:53:42] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:53:48] Unknown:
But we don't pay taxes.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
Right. And I guess what I'm getting at is kind of picking up on some of the other things I've been talking and studying about is if we use dollars based on our status, we're not using the because it's basically a unit of measuring we measure like talk about jewelry or talking about gallons, gallons of what, right? So as nationals, we're actually using dollars as what is it 99 grains or whatever, pieces of eight, I don't know. Would you say that when we work with dollars, should it be all should they be in the background taking whatever way that they trace all this crap, and making sure that we're paying down that the treasury is being paid down because we're still not you know, the debt is being paid down because we're we're nationals on the original organic land.
[02:54:45] Unknown:
No. No. It's You see where I'm going with that? You got upset. That is separate from you. That's their deal.
[02:54:55] Unknown:
Correct. But I'm saying, we're not we're not being incriminated by using their debt, their debt system because of our status. No. We're walking.
[02:55:07] Unknown:
So and in fact, shouldn't Okay. You're paying okay. You're being you're being honoring them for the product. Right? Right. You wanna buy their product. Okay. They want dogs. Correct. And they want taxes from you that they're supposed to be paying. But everybody, you know, pays the taxes to get get whatever you they're buying. Everybody just goes ahead and pay it. But they're US citizens. That's who pays the taxes. We don't. We're trying to buy the item.
[02:55:47] Unknown:
Right. No. I've got I've got that. What I'm getting at is the dollar that they're asking for is actually debt. Right. So when we use a dollar, we are using gold and silver or whatever, something pegged to something, right? That was the original part of and actually I got to look at the articles of Confederation where they actually mentioned money in there. That's a whole mess because that maybe that's what Ed George when I made that statement that he's when I just restated what he said, what did he say here? I don't know if you heard what I was reading this Ed George piece and he said that, okay. So The United States code was put in place for We The People, American Nationals, to hold the government accountable in Title 50 U. S. Code.
There's a way for you to access your SESTAKEDV trust to pay off debt. You can't do that if you're a U. S. Citizen. So That's that's not true.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
That's that's incorrect. Anyone can do that. Do you know? The US citizen is in Social Security account. You're just utilizing that Social Security account for debts. In fact, 100% of every loan you've ever gotten came out of that Social Security account anyway because they consider all applications or letters of credit. You submit that into the bank. The bank takes a letter of credit, deposit certifies it, deposits into the Social Security account as a certificate of indebtedness, and then issues you back the money. Then they get you to contract with them through a promissory, you know, another other kinds of contracts in order to in order to get you to turn over power of attorney to them to continue using your your signature and your account.
Okay? So all you gotta do is do the letter of credit, but you when you when you do the the application, you have to do a power of attorney along with that and a letter of intent letting them know that this is the payment. Under under uniform commercial code section five, letters of credit. You know, as the applicant, you're turning it over to them to make them responsible for making sure that the payment is done. You don't have to do anything. Every literally, 100% of all Americans have done that who've gotten loans. Right? It's there's no it just a case trust means a beneficiary.
Right? The Social Security account is the trust that we're utilizing for those purposes since we've been in debt this entire time. That other thing is all it's all hocus pocus crap people talk about when they say, you have to do all these things in order to access the trust. You've already done it. That their whole and the whole purpose of you using that Social Security account is to access that account to because we're in a debt based system.
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Mhmm.
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Since they don't have any lawful money, the only thing we can do is set up debts that way. So that's why they set that up. That was the remedy. It's not a coincidence that the Social Security Act came out right after they they they stopped the gold. Right? They banned gold for being used in the country. It's the reason why they did it.
[02:59:08] Unknown:
But the UCC wasn't enacted till later after that. Right?
[02:59:14] Unknown:
UCCs have been around for hundreds of years. And I don't think they've been 25 different names. I mean, they all think I'm according to, you know, like, whatever, you know, whatever is going on today. Like, they didn't have, you know, electronics on transfers, you know, like, five hundred years ago. But the Babylonian merchants used the UCCs. That was that's where it came from. Now we we Raju talked about that.
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Mhmm. Right. So this is this is just done at the bank where you have your account set up, or do you do that with the treasury as well?
[02:59:56] Unknown:
No. Like okay. So let's say you wanna get a personal loan of $50,000. Right? So you go to, Bank of America, and you say, hey. I'd like to get a loan. They say, sure thing. Fill out this application. That's the letter of credit. Okay? The letter of credit, whether or not they they whether or not they give you the 50,000, that is deposited and the bank gets the 50,000 no matter what. They're never denied. Okay?
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Right. Yep. Good.
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But the problem the thing is that they wanna get because when they do that letter of credit, it's issued back to you because that's your credit. They were saying we have to run your credit. They're not giving you credit. You it's yours. Right? That's that's why they say we have to do we have to check your credit first. So they do the application. They get the they get the credits. And then what they want from you is for you to issue them a a promissory note so that way they can go and sell that so they can get money from this transaction as well. So you issue them a letter of credit. They give you the function of that letter of credit, then you issue them a promissory note, and then they go and sell that note and make the money over and over again, plus the interest rates.
Right.
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You're double dipping.
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Yeah. Yeah. So what I do, I just report it to the IRS. Right? And then they don't wanna they don't wanna take my money anymore.
[03:01:37] Unknown:
That's great. Yeah. We'll do that instead of what I'm doing. Thank you, Joe.
[03:01:48] Unknown:
Yeah. You're welcome.
[03:01:53] Unknown:
So then you you've kinda not you're not using cash because you you almost want everything to be traceable so that you can you can make them kinda stop, if you will. So you use credit cards Basically like that. Or
[03:02:12] Unknown:
Basically, you're an owner with both sides, the debtor and the creditor. You and the creditor and the bank.
[03:02:30] Unknown:
Right. And then by law by law, they're supposed to only get paid off of the interest, right, that that those notes make. So that's where their that's where the monthly payments are supposed to be coming from is those interest payments. But they're getting those interest payments from it being sold and traded for on the on the security exchange, commission. So they're supposed to be getting the interest in that.
[03:02:53] Unknown:
That's like your mortgage. That's what they do with that.
[03:02:56] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. You're supposed to say no. You but you want the money? Yes. You owe us money. No. No. No. No. I already gave it to you. I gave you I gave you lawful consideration. Okay? You're supposed to get it from the interest now. So go get it from the interest. And then if they really give you a hard time to go get the Bloomberg report, which there's only a couple of people that really make those things, and they're they charge, like, $1,500 for it. But once you get those things, I mean, you could just submit it to them, and they they don't wanna talk to you anymore. We kinda, like, wanna leave you alone because you're showing them that not only is that mortgage paid for already through the Bloomberg report, but that they're continuously making money off of it by creating portions of it. And when they see that you know that's going on, they can't even they can't even foreclose on you because they don't have a lawful claim against you if you don't make the payments anymore.
Alright. It becomes it's a big problem for them because if it you know, if you submit that into the court record, right, they have to withdraw their claim because you've just proven that they don't have one. So it's failure motion to be dismissed. They'll they'll just say the claim. Alright?
[03:04:11] Unknown:
Well, that was good information. Thank you. Now if I can follow the deed, I could try to do it, but I need to learn a little more about it. But, anyway, that's great. I knew things. We already have been, you know, paying them because they go, like, on the mortgage. And you don't pay it off for thirty day thirty years. You know? They've just already been paid off.
[03:04:44] Unknown:
Joe, Jim Jim Ramm, many years ago, pretty much made that kind of a statement, regarding his mortgage in the court. And the judge says, even though you're right, I can't rule in your favor because it would destroy the system.
[03:05:02] Unknown:
Alright.
[03:05:03] Unknown:
Well, I It's pretty much in the death toll. Yeah. I I did the same thing, and
[03:05:10] Unknown:
later on, we didn't win our case anyway, but, they wouldn't go let us win the case. And they came back, and retaliated against me. My wife had done the mortgage, thing and everything because her parents gave us some money, so I let her do the deed for them. Wasn't anyway, so, I came into the foreclosure court and rep well, I was representing my wife, protecting her like, the husband's supposed to do in this matter. And the judge looked at me and said, I don't think you need to be here, mister Hagan, and, we're not going to abide by what you're saying. And I said, sir, under the the law of coverture, I am protecting my property and my interest, and she's my wife.
He looked at me and said, well, okay. He didn't know what's up. And he was he was the clerk of court for the Supreme Court in South Carolina for thirty two years. And he wanted a job when he retired, something else to do, so they put him in the magistrate's court in the county. He didn't, work to do. That threw me and Gerald later for $250,000 cash behind on me. That was later after the foreclosure.
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Wow.
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And so all the attorneys, all the attorney, offices around the state that had to come into that county doing foreclosures petition to get him off the beach because it took too long for this case to go through. My k our case. We had other people too involved with same thing. You know? But, they threw me in jail with $250,000 cash bond on me. I was in there for nine months, and the jailer got me out of there. I don't know what he did, but he said we can release you now. I was working on it, and I knew you didn't need to be in here. He said that, you will get to people that we didn't have a clue how to handle in that jail cell. That was the the jail.
And one guy, they were watching. They had he'd come from prison, and this was a stepping stone for him to get out of prison to go back into the county jail, and they would observe how he was gonna handle that. And if he didn't handle it right, they're gonna send him back to prison. Well, he has a little attitude about him, you know, first and being himself like he always was, I guess. About, let's see, four months, maybe five months, He came up to me and said, hey, Bruce, can we talk about, about being married? And I said, yeah. I've been married thirty two years. And he said, would you mind talking to me about being married?
Being married? And I said, well, yeah. When you wanna do it, just let me know. Go sit down and talk. So he came up to me, and they were watching. I didn't know. The officers were watching people at jailhouse and watching to see if he was gonna do anything. And I sat there and talked to him for an hour or less about an hour and five or fifteen minutes talking about being married and your responsibility as a husband and how you respect that woman and that she respects you. And, you don't beat a woman, and that's what they do all the time with their women. And he was black. You know?
So I said you you gotta honor her in the best way you can. You know? She'll honor you. And then you have children, which is what you're here for what you're in marriage for. You support your wife in every way she needs support. I wish I wish I'd there for you know? He never heard stuff like that before. This is that's terrible stuff. You know? And, he shook my hand. Thank you. Thanks for your help. I don't know. After that, I had already yeah. I had gotten out before he got out, but, that's what the the guy who was over the jail, said, you you got the people we couldn't even touch.
You know? And we wanna thank you for doing that for us. I think that's what got me out of jail. And God puts you in places, you know, that you need to be or it happens to be. You know? It's all, you know, predestination, I think. That's what Presbyterians think, of course. But, anyway
[03:10:58] Unknown:
What year was that about that. That all started?
[03:11:03] Unknown:
I started learning, law, at February, and it was right way law. And I first meeting we went I went to, I had no idea what they were talking about. It was, like, way way off my my parameter. And, I had a guy that, I started helping him. I was serving paper for for him. He was doing stuff, right way law and quite successful in it. And he was helping me, and I was helping him and, started learning. I got each meeting they had once a month and started learning a little bit about that. He taught me some more and stuff. You know? And, then I was able to handle my own case, actually. That's what I was doing. It's foreclosure.
It was kinda like learning as you go. You know? It was kinda like that.
[03:12:13] Unknown:
So that February, that's when you had to did you study while you were in the clinic to learn it? Or No. No. No. No. I started learning law in February.
[03:12:22] Unknown:
I got thrown in jail in February I think it was '8 or '9, something like that.
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Gotcha.
[03:12:37] Unknown:
And my fourth my wife divorced me while I was in jail for, you know, six months, seven months, something like that. I think it was nine months, actually. And I agree. Let her go, you know, if she wants to. Not be around, crazy people like me. That's that's how they look at you. Are you crazy? I fired judges and attorneys in the courtroom too.
[03:13:26] Unknown:
Amazing.
[03:13:29] Unknown:
Yes, somebody mentioned earlier about the christening. Yes, as far as like there is infant baptism as part of a covenantal agreement. But then later, like, within many churches like a thousand, there is a, it's called confirmation. So it's kinda like part of that. Somebody's saying that you should get baptized later or whatever, but it's kinda covered that way within the sacraments. So as far as getting to an age where you understand everything, I just wanted to Yep. Visit that because that had come up earlier.
[03:14:08] Unknown:
Well, I tell you, just like me learning law for the first year. Heck, I was still scrambling around trying to figure out what was going on. You know, I learned it, you know, pretty quickly. But I mean, I wasn't gonna give up. You know? That's the whole thing. And, it comes to you. You start getting grounded and stuff. And I guess, like, that's the way everybody does that. They learn through experience. You know? But I tell you that first meeting, right way law, I just said, I I don't know what the heck they said. No idea what's going on.
I all laughed, and I was driving the car with three other guys, and they started laughing because they'd been there for, you know, years. They started laughing. We've been there, Bruce. We've been there. So I said, okay. Well, I gotta run, guys.
[03:15:30] Unknown:
You're good to talk. See you tomorrow.
[03:15:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I appreciate you listening to me, and, Jeff, thanks for your contributions. Everybody's contribution. I'm just calling. It's really a gold mine. A go a golden mine, like, in your head.
[03:15:53] Unknown:
Yes, sir. You have a blessed day.
[03:15:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I have already. Thank you.
[03:16:26] Unknown:
Now Joe is still out there. But Joe, have you ever been served or I don't know how long you've been doing those securities things, but some of these things that went around, I forget what it was, Accepted for value or something like that. They were eventually dragging people in ten ten ninety nine I d IOD or something like that. So I didn't know how long these other, practices have been going around and and if, you know, they've been trying to chase people down on those.
[03:17:10] Unknown:
Well, you you you were asking a question?
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Yeah. Some of these, I don't know how much
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some of
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these using the securities and using the UCC, there was I forget which ones it was, but I kind of steered clear of it just this is fifteen years ago now, twenty years ago, and I kind of stayed clear of all that kind of stuff because folks were set promoting all these UCC tools, but then they were getting hammered later. I don't know if it was Winston Shroud or something these guys that got I don't know if they were selling solutions or what they were doing, but they went after them. I don't know. I don't even remember exactly what it was and how they went after him. But my concern was with
[03:18:07] Unknown:
go ahead. Go ahead. So my other thing is a couple of those guys like Winston Strout and a couple other guys, what they did was they made these monetary instruments and then pay paid it over to the United States Treasury to to pay off the public debt. But they so they were making them for, like, you know, $500,000,000,000. And, apparently, that's what these guys went to jail for. And then, like, one guy, they he wrote them, like, one of these bills of exchange or something for, like, $500,000,000,000, and the IRS's response to him was please make a filing. And he wrote back to him, I'm not a taxpayer, so I don't file.
And so they threw him in jail. So, apparently, you know, trying to erase the public debt with one monetary instrument is not a good idea. Right? Because a few of those guys tried that, and apparently went to jail for it. There's a guy named Eon on YouTube who talks about that too. And he goes, he went to jail, and he says they won't tell him you know, they won't say the real reason it is, but it's because he he says he knows because it was right after he made, like, a 505 hundred billion dollar bill of exchange and sent it into them. And then they came and arrested him, and he spent, like, nine months in jail for that.
So don't don't write these extravagant amounts on, on these bills of exchange and send them in. But Right. But I I've helped people do that for at least to settle their tax debt, and it it has worked without any issues. You know? Uh-huh. That that has that has been successful, but you don't go, you know, you don't write one out for, like, $500,000,000,000 and go here. Enjoy.
[03:20:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, do you yeah. Right. Enjoy. I hear joy. Do you think of that well, you know, that's it brings up an interesting question. Do you think that we're we have to stay within the scope of whatever whatever instruments say has been that they're trading out there with our once our name got into the public through the birth record. Do you think that kind of we have to stay under whatever that limit is kind of thing? And once we go above that, they're like, hey. You're you're now a a public threat. You know?
[03:20:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, because it's gonna collapse the system. Right? You know, you send in these monster instruments and it it pays off the entire debt, then what? Now they have to go back to gold. And so I bet you they don't have any gold, so they can't put us back on the gold standard because there's no gold. They probably wouldn't. At least they don't have enough to make, like, to make money from to, like, coin money with and then actually don't put it out there for people to use. Most people would lose all their ass you know, all their assets. Well I mean, a lot of these bankers a lot of the banks are just crashed.
Since their entire system is based off of debt, all the banks and stuff like that would just they would just crumble because they're they're trading, you know, worthless paper right now, but they're Mhmm. They're making so much money off of that worthless paper. You know?
[03:21:33] Unknown:
So All the gold. Didn't all the gold get get washed down the drain when the lady from, James Bond took a shower?
[03:21:43] Unknown:
I never saw that.
[03:21:45] Unknown:
Remember they yeah. They they painted the lady gold or whatever. Goldfinger or whatever that movie was. I was just trying to make a joke. Sorry. You you know, people always
[03:21:56] Unknown:
always talk about gold, but the coin of the realm before 1834 was silver. And they came in and adjusted that ratio because they didn't like it, and all the silver got sucked out of the country. That's how we got the gold. And then we ended up being one of the biggest silver manufacturers out of the Karnstock load and a few others in the world, yet that money didn't really stay here either because of that ratio offset that they created, just like when FDR bought the gold or made the gold illegal and changed the value of gold all at the same time. They've been manipulating it even when it was and that's really what the the whole story of, The Wizard of Oz was about.
Dorothy was supposed to have silver slippers. But
[03:22:52] Unknown:
Yeah. In the book, she has silver slippers.
[03:22:55] Unknown:
Yeah. It was because it that was a that was a protest book about them destroying the silver markets in the country, and and the feeling was that if silver was brought back, the average guy could have something to pay a debt with instead of just the rich with gold. That was sort of the political argument.
[03:23:26] Unknown:
Well, that's Yeah. And then that got it. Scam.
[03:23:31] Unknown:
I'm sorry, Joe? What was that? Yeah. I mean, that is the scam they're running today Sure. For sure. Which is, you know, like, no one can really pay a debt. But I you know what I do? I just go out. I take, I I just take a portion of of cash I have, and I go down to the jewelry store, and I just buy silver coins and and gold coins with it. And I just consider that my savings. You know? Like, that's what I'm saving up for, because it keeps going up in value. So it's like it's like I I I buy this stuff now and, you know, it goes up in value. So it becomes more lucrative to just have that silver.
You know, if I need money later on, I can always sell some of it, and I'd get I'd get more in my return, you know, than than what I put in.
[03:24:29] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:24:30] Unknown:
Yeah. They say it just broke 3,000 for and that was supposed to be one of those barriers that, after it hits, it would accelerate over.
[03:24:41] Unknown:
Well, great. Because I got a ton of it.
[03:24:44] Unknown:
Hey, Joe. It's Bruce again.
[03:24:46] Unknown:
Hey, Bruce.
[03:24:48] Unknown:
How do you get a hold of your, information that you have every, week? I hope you put it out on on one of our shows. The group meeting I'm sorry.
[03:25:04] Unknown:
Say that again?
[03:25:06] Unknown:
The group meeting you have, I think it's on Thursdays or something like that.
[03:25:11] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. The you have to go to breeddivine.com. And then, yeah. There's a woman. She she's like the host, and then I just go over, I go over all the, information.
[03:25:30] Unknown:
Okay. Can somebody put that in the chat?
[03:25:35] Unknown:
Redivine.com. Yeah. I just put it in the chat. Yeah. That's, well, yeah, that's just because, the reason I'm doing it like that is because I've had a lot of issues with putting my my name and face out there. As in, you know, I've had, like, the cops following me around and giving me a hard time and stuff. Yeah. I'm I've they've stopped. But since then, I I've just chosen a little bit more wisely what I share publicly, you know, because Right. They've been set off by there was a few videos that I put out there on Rumble that they that's really set them off. And, like, the DOT video, they didn't like that one.
You know? Showing you how to get the the exemption for for being on the road because it's adopted in all 50 states, so they can't they can't really refuse it. All they can do is just treat you like crap in the courtroom. But when has that ever been not a thing? Yeah. So that was one. There's a couple other videos I put out that they really didn't like. So I, have since, you know, at least unlisted them. So if you have a link for, you could see some of them. But, you know, otherwise, it's not for public viewing just because I'm just trying to not get hurt by these guys. You know? They have a lot of evil intentions. But you know what I did to get them off my back was, I wrote a treaty.
Right. Right? Because the constitution Yep. The constitution says, you know, what's gonna be the law of the land. Right? The, like, this constitution. Right? Whatever laws that, congress passes and then all treaties. And I said, well, I'm not a member of congress, but I could write a treaty. Right. I wrote a treaty declaring peace between me and all the states and, The United States. Yeah. And, they've left me alone since then. Only public officials.
[03:28:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Did you wear a powdered wig while you were signing that tree?
[03:28:10] Unknown:
I should have.
[03:28:13] Unknown:
I should have wrote hear you hear you too. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To have I have a self selfie of you and a powdered wig. You know? So but who and who who who who signed the treaty? Was it all one way like King George, King George with the colonists? Or Yeah. How do you how do you get somebody to sign? You who who do you who do you do you be I'm I'm confused. Do you have a notary?
[03:28:39] Unknown:
I said, no. What about the declaration of independence? Right? Right. Okay. It was a one it was it was a one-sided contract. Right. Hey, Joe. So I signed it as a declaration in
[03:28:53] Unknown:
Did you have a further VPN?
[03:28:57] Unknown:
Yep. So oh, someone's calling me. Hold on.
[03:29:17] Unknown:
He's a Jew. Yeah. He has Joe, I just wanna say I I really do love the way your mind works. And, I'm glad that you got the brass balls to back it up.
[03:29:36] Unknown:
Gregory, he took a call. He's not hearing you right now.
[03:29:40] Unknown:
Well, I second that motion, Gregory, and thank you for speaking up from rough and ready.
[03:29:50] Unknown:
Yeah. It takes a little bit of effort to go in there and place them.
[03:29:55] Unknown:
I thought that would agree.
[03:29:58] Unknown:
I thought our treaty was our, affidavit. Now that he brought that up, isn't that really what it is?
[03:30:11] Unknown:
Yeah. But you could actually just double down. Right? Just say, okay. I'm gonna make a treaty too and and and then find some other avenues to, bombard those morons with.
[03:30:25] Unknown:
So I wonder if it
[03:30:28] Unknown:
oh, go ahead. I was just gonna say the question is, does does the constitution say a treaty can only be written by Congress, I yield?
[03:30:39] Unknown:
No. It has to, be approved by congress by the senate. But did he send it to the secretary of state?
[03:30:52] Unknown:
I would send it to the court. Well, yeah, because since we're under we're under martial law, right Right. I utilized the principles under the, Libra code and wrote it based off of the Libra code.
[03:31:06] Unknown:
There you
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go. That's that's how I did it. I
[03:31:18] Unknown:
Yeah. That that's important.
[03:31:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead.
[03:31:24] Unknown:
Right. Because I think that is one of the jurisdictions, just based on obviously the history that that along with that administrative and kind of that military is kind of under the administrative, but yet it still has some original kind of jurisdiction even way back to the land, going back to the original we've on the land, we're protecting our areas. It's kind of cover military covers kind of so many things. So I think that's wise the way you did that because the affidavit should do that. It should technically include the labor code as well.
But putting into a we don't really put it into a court. So I like and the court is where we're getting court martialed, right? Somebody is saying that they're using somebody said the other day that the traffic laws are based on the war the war laws or something. I feel what they said, but one of their 2,300 statutes that you protect or traffic cozy could break just driving down for the market back. So I like that idea. And did you have an open court case or you just create,
[03:32:36] Unknown:
No. I have an open court case. They're trying to give me thirteen years for, for weapons. Yeah. Okay. Pocket knife. Yep. Yeah. Jeez. Jeez. Yeah. That's New Jersey for you. Mhmm. Oh, you had a pocket knife in your pocket? That's that's years in jail. But, you know, the cut like, it was I mean, it's it's bullshit charge. You know what I mean? Like, first of all, this is The United States Of America. Right? He no one should be getting charged for walking out with a knife. We have a right to bear arms. In fact, in the dictionary, neither defined as a tool, not even a weapon. But they gave me, like, five bogus charges saying I was I had the intent to harm persons or property with it, that I had a concealed weapon, and that I was using a concealed weapon to interfere with a this with a, with a police investigations.
Right?
[03:33:39] Unknown:
Right. Right. They use that like, resisting arrest. You know?
[03:33:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm like, how was I using the knife to interfere with police police investigation? The you know? So what's interesting is after I sent that stuff in, like, the treaty, right, into the court case, you know, based off the Liber Code principles and the Reconstruction Acts. I sent that in, and, I I didn't hear anything from anybody, but the cops stopped following me around everywhere I was going. And then, hold on a second. I'm walking this is New Jersey, but there's, like, lots of big trucks everywhere. So but, you know, the cops stopped following me. And then when I went into court, the next time I went in, the prosecutor was, like, really nice to me.
The judge is really nice to me. The, you know, the prosecutor looked a little shaken up, actually. He looked a little like he was, like, concerned. I mean, my wife even said, what the hell did you do this guy? Why is she so scared of you? Like, mhmm. But he was like, hey. Let me help you out here. Let me get rid of the felony charges. And he just crossed the door. He crossed them right off the docket. Like, here, these are gone. Alright? So don't worry about those anymore.
[03:35:07] Unknown:
And, But it's like it's like you had given notice that you weren't a, belligerent needing to be on parole. You know?
[03:35:16] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. And I told him I was non belligerent. I said I'm non belligerent, peaceful, noncombatant, you know, inhabitant. And, I was very careful about the words I used in that thing because, you know, you know, all these little phrases can can give him jurisdiction. Resident. Right? Citizen. Right? They even say, well, state citizen, yeah, because the fourteenth amendment. But that's all from resident states. Right? State citizenship to the fourteenth amendment is residency. On the passport, when they show the state, it's the state you're born in. So that's the native soil. Right? So I know there's a difference between, like, the state citizen, like the national that Rogers always talking about versus the fourteenth amendment state citizen, which is a resident.
And that's that's the difference. And the passport just shows you the difference. So that's why I was very careful about the words I use. I looked through the constitution, and they talk about inhabitants. Right? So they have citizens, and they have inhabitants in the constitution. Up until the fourteenth amendment, that's when we start talking about residence. So I said I was an inhabitant, and that I was, non belligerent, non combative, peaceful inhabitant. And I I told them that I had in my possession the receipt that they needed according to the Libra code for me to obtain back my property. And I sent them a copy of the birth certificate.
So, saying that there's the receipt. Right? Because the because the first certificate is a warehouse receipt. And they pretty much have been very nice to me ever since then.
[03:37:23] Unknown:
Right. Because then they they can settle all the accounting using that birth certificate. Right? Because they're
[03:37:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, I sent that back to Vital Statistics. I just have a copy of it. Mhmm. I told I I sent it back to Vital Statistics thing that that, that I've, bonded that, that account and that, I was returning the security interest and the receipts for how I was gonna keep the assets. And, I haven't, I never heard from anybody since.
[03:38:02] Unknown:
So we can't keep we can't keep the security that they're generating, but we can keep the, profits that they're making on it? That is that kinda like what your understanding of what the use effect and the and the Boris kind of stuff was?
[03:38:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I know Boris has his own thing about endorsing the birth certificate or something. I I don't know. I'm not sure what he does exactly, but he said it once before on a call what he was doing with it. But, I just figured going to the UCCs, right, any kind of certificate of title or any kind of certificate is the certificate of title, which shows a security interest. Right? So I'm like, okay. If there's a security interest, there's a creditor and there's a debtor. It's it's it shows a relationship between a creditor and a debtor. So who's the creditor?
Now who's the debtor? So I figured what they're probably doing is there's collateral attached to those secure those certificates. Something's put like you look at a card title. Right? It has the state name on top. Right? And this is like this is like, you know, kindergarten fact. Whoever's on top is the boss. Right? That's that's what they're doing with the certificate. Well, we're on top, so we're in charge. So they put their name on top, then you're you're on there, and your name is on there, and then it has the collateral, which is the car. Because, you know, it's always bugged me about why they can take the cars without violating the fifth amendment.
How are they allowed to do that? Like, the cops are going, tow your car right off the street because it's not registered? Like, where's the what what happened to due process? You know? And the cops all laugh about it too. They go, What are you gonna do about it? You know? So they they violate the Fifth Amendment every single day. Anytime, I in a car that's, like, post registered or unregistered, and they catch it and they take it, they're violating the Fifth Amendment. But I think they're you know, my thought was the certificate of title is how they're bypassing that.
Because what they're doing is they're using this this legality to say, well, since you have a certificate of title in hand, you're a debtor on this contract and we're the creditor. We can repo that stuff. We can repo the collateral from you if you don't follow the contract as stipulated in our private statutes. And then that's exactly what they're doing. So that's why I just send it back. So I just gave it back to them. And when there's like a rescission of signature, I'm just sending all signatures. And you give it back to them. And now they don't have Right. You can't hold security interest against you anymore on that car. And you just tell them that you're gonna keep the asset.
I mean, what are they gonna do? They're gonna say no? No. You no. We have to retain the security interest in the car.
[03:41:34] Unknown:
Right. And that also gets rid of the power of attorney that's written in the codes that gives the the registrar or the DMV, the power to do what they do with the with the statutes. Yeah. Haven't
[03:41:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I've been giving everything back to them. You know? It's like, here's your here's your birth certificate. Here's your certificate of title. And, you know, they don't they don't pull you over even when the car is, you you know, registration's expired.
[03:42:10] Unknown:
You
[03:42:13] Unknown:
know? And I think So you leave the tag leave the tag on there so that they could still trace it back to what's been done legally? Like, still leave? Yeah.
[03:42:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Leave the tag on there. And, then the cops can run it, and then, you know, the where I live, the cops run them. They just have automatic reader. So they're just reading all the, points as they go by. Now the nice thing about the DOT stuff is that the the plates don't read. So it doesn't like, they won't know unless something pops up on their screen telling them that something's wrong with the car. Right? Because the DOT numbers don't register anything with their their, scanners. So people are left alone with the DOT stuff because they they don't know, and they can't read them.
So but, you know, every once in a while, you get that one cop that just wants to know why of what's going on. But then he starts screwing with people. You know? Right. But they'll you know? It it just gets The new guy the new guy,
[03:43:18] Unknown:
yeah, the do gooder who just came on the force. Right?
[03:43:23] Unknown:
Well so, I mean, no. It's usually the other it's usually the other guys who've been around for a while and, you know, they really, they've just turned into bonies at this point. Those are usually the guys that stop you. I've been stopped by guys. Everyone who stopped me with my DOT number, they were all, like, been on the force for, like, eight to twelve years, and they all had a bone to pick with people like me according to them. No. I got a problem with people like you. I don't mean people like me. I'm one of the techs. Aren't you?
Are you all the people? Do you represent all the police? Well, you're faced with the track. Okay?
[03:44:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I just say, yeah. You know, officer, I I am Joe every man. Thanks.
[03:44:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I'm every man. Like, like, once you know, I have the one copy he's telling me, he's like, why wouldn't you register the car? He's like, everyone registers the car. I said, yeah. Because they don't wanna deal with this shit. That's the only reason. Nobody would do it, Satan. If they knew there was no consequence to not registering the card, nobody would do it. Who in their right mind knew it? He had nothing to say to that. Yep. Well, the only reason why people do half the things they do is because they don't wanna suffer the consequences of this corrupt agencies and their minions.
[03:45:14] Unknown:
Joe, regarding your treaty made me think of, the land patent. And, you know, you put that powdered wig on, and you open that with to all in whom these presents shall come greeting. And then you look through this thing and you get down to the description and you get down to, you know, now know ye. And then I've noticed on this document that every date, every number is spelled out, and the book of the hundreds does the same things. And they say that anything written in numbers is a misnomer and can be overlooked. Whereas even in this land patent signed by Benjamin Harrison, all the dates are written out.
Even the land description, all of those things are completely written out. No numbers are used. Thirty two is written out, you know, whatever. I find that interesting. I wonder if the old treaties are that way as well.
[03:46:33] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm pretty sure they are. But the old treaties are written out in words rather than numbers for the years. Yep. Because it says in the year of our lord, you know, and then it will say 1700 or whatever.
[03:46:57] Unknown:
I mean, to write out the meets and bounds, that's a particularly long it's almost the biggest part of the document. Right? But they went to that effort for some particular reason.
[03:47:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a reason for it. I guess it's because it it conveys truth and the the numbers, I've read somewhere that the the numbers can be, mis misread. Like, it'd be like five or six. Sometimes people's five and six look the same, so they can't tell them apart. But the word five and the word six did not be, missed the street to beat each other. You know?
[03:47:46] Unknown:
In the book of the hundred, they're basically saying that it's it's just like putting the all caps name. It's a misnomer. If you don't write it out, it's a misnomer.
[03:47:58] Unknown:
Well, I take it as a trademark, and then I went and got the name trademarked. And, I sent I sent that into the court, like, hey. Look. That's that's my DBA, and it's trademarked. But they went and changed the name on all the documents that they made. So I'm gonna just did it again. Here. I got that one trademarked too. And they yeah. And you can see they got frustrated about it and went and changed all the paperwork again. And, I changed it all again. You can see after the third time, they were like, forget. We're just gonna ignore it. But I thought that was really funny.
[03:48:42] Unknown:
That that's Yep. In in in, I've got that book on, the judge's defense against these different claims, I forget the name of that manual, to be able to counteract our claims. And they talk about the name in there. And in some cases, what they they were talking about, the judges, well, you just change your name a little bit. Right? Yeah. That's all you do. You know? Just misspell it another way.
[03:49:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I I just think it's hilarious because, you know, they keep changing the name and you go, well, that that tells you something right there that they're they either are not allowed to use their name or or that or something. You know?
[03:49:35] Unknown:
So Stamper Stamper also says anytime you change the name, it's a different trust.
[03:49:42] Unknown:
Well, I mean, it could be.
[03:49:46] Unknown:
Because that's why they asked you to to add your w two to do middle initial.
[03:49:57] Unknown:
Well, I I know there's something I've noticed about the names. On, the way the names are spelled out can mean something different. It's either finance or it's, shipping. Right? This is what I've noticed. Like, on the driver's license, it's last name, then first middle. Right? And the same thing with the passport. Right? And then when you have crimes, like real crimes, on the court docket, they spelled the last name the same way. Last name, comma, first middle. I'm like, well, that's interesting. So they're all tied into one another. Those the name being spelled like that.
Or if it's a criminal, if it's another, like, real criminal charge, then it's first name, middle initial with the period last name. But if there's no period, then it's financial. First, middle, last or first, middle initial, no period last name. It's all financial contracts. And most of your tickets are written out as financial contracts. Right? It's like first name, middle initial, or middle name, last name, or first name, middle, or last name, which is all financial contracts. Right? The hospital bills come in that name. Credit card bills come in that name. Now the, bank's rights are in that name.
Most of the traffic tickets are written in that name. But the felony charges were written with the last name first.
[03:51:33] Unknown:
Yeah. In international law, I found that they have to use an nom de guerre if they're at war. They cannot use their real name if there's a controversy at war. And I think that can be connected to the fourteenth amendment that we are in rebellion and the War Powers Act, and that's why that name exists. It's a war name.
[03:52:01] Unknown:
No. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, it's like the only thing I can confirm is what I what I've seen them react to and how they reacted to it. You know? But it seems as though if you if they're operating under certain aspects of law and some they're not, like, you know, it's kinda it puts me in a quandary of, like, what what laws are they actually operating under? And I I I think they don't wanna be transparent about it because if they were, everyone would know how to handle it. You know?
[03:52:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't. If Stamper is right, these lower courts don't understand. But as soon as you got that writ and stuff like that and it got pushed into a higher court, then you had somebody who was understanding what your arguments were and were saying like, now how do we deal with this? Right? Yeah.
[03:53:07] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:53:11] Unknown:
Well, I've know I noticed that, you know, I've been going to, like, these, oh, municipal courts since I was 18, And they've they've mostly just treated me like crap. You know, yelling at me, belittling me. You know? Yeah. For the most part, when I go to appeals court or I went to, like, county court, like, this you know, they actually did. You know, like, I went out with a girl years ago, and I broke up with her because, I just couldn't I couldn't be with the girl unless she's driving me nuts. But but anyway, we broke up. And then she went and started telling everyone that I was beating her. And the cops came and arrested me.
And I had to go to county court in front of a grand jury. And, the, you know, they had no evidence. You know, I didn't hit her. And, you know, basically, the grand jury just kinda looked at it and was like, well, where's the evidence of abuse? And she's like, oh, we don't have any just take my word for it, basically, is what you're saying. Like, believe me. And, it does do that. It goes, well, since there's no you know, we can't find any evidence of any wrongdoing here. It's just you're just making a claim that can't be backed up. He doesn't let me go. That was it.
So that was, like, probably the only time other than appeals where I felt like I was in an actual court of law. You know? And they took that they took that scenario pretty seriously. You know? Where, like, you know, the jury was like, we don't see any evidence. And the judge agreed, and they just they they let me, you know, and they let me go. And I was I thought I was gonna go to jail just because she says so. And, you know, you hear about all the guys who end up in jail for, you know, you know, being claimed for being claimed to be a rapist, and they end up in jail.
You know? Even though they're innocent. I was thinking that was gonna happen to me. I'm like, great. She just says, that beat her, and now I'm gonna go to jail for this. Like, this sucks. And they just dropped it because there's no evidence. I said, wow. This person actually can be honorable. Right? That's pretty cool. Be a different story today, though, Joe. Well, that was 02/2008. So Yeah. You know, and I just you know, I didn't have a lawyer. I just went in there and sat down and, basically, I said nothing the whole time. I just went in there and they just told that there was no evidence. So no one doing pinky sounds.
And I remember the mother got up and started yelling, what about revenge? The mother was like, we want revenge. And the judge goes, I'm sorry. We don't I don't do revenge in this court. We do justice.
[03:56:25] Unknown:
Vengeance is mine, sir.
[03:56:29] Unknown:
I think he I think she pushed the button with the judge. You know? But he was very nice about it too. You know? And I'm, like, thinking about it. I'm like, how come the judges don't act like that when you go into court, like, to traffic tickets? They treat you like you're like you and chills. You know? That's how they treat you. So I don't get it.
[03:56:57] Unknown:
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hue man there. Right? You're a hue man in traffic court, presumptively.
[03:57:04] Unknown:
Yes. Hue. A man of hue. Yeah. That's it. I'm a man of hue. Okay. Never thought of it like that. That's pretty funny.
[03:57:18] Unknown:
It's the color of man.
[03:57:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I love it.
[03:57:31] Unknown:
Yeah. What color glasses did the judge have on today?
[03:57:37] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I would like to find out exactly how these traffic courts really operate and, like, what laws they're really operating off of because they don't seem to follow, like, procedures. You know, they ignore all in everything you put into court, but they don't wanna talk about it or bring it up. Or
[03:57:57] Unknown:
Spamper says the only place you find a lot of the terminology is in manuals of court martial.
[03:58:10] Unknown:
Oh, that's what you were saying with the traffic what the traffic law was, Samuel. Right? Yeah.
[03:58:16] Unknown:
Military military law. It's court martial law. That's what he said. There's the only place we find those terms that they use in traffic court. In law, anywhere.
[03:58:30] Unknown:
Well, you know what the definition of traffic is. Right?
[03:58:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know which terms he was pointing out, but, his book is well worth reading. I think he really understood and really cared and might be off on a few points. In general, he's Is trap?
[03:58:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I yeah. I wonder where it says then what it says about trafficking in court mark in the manual court martial. But is that where you were going, Joe?
[03:58:58] Unknown:
No. No. In Blackboard's Dictionary, the definition of traffic is commerce. That's what traffic means. Okay. Commerce.
[03:59:13] Unknown:
Because it is interesting language wise. My, my wife's from Brazil and another buddy had married a Brazilian, and he was down and trying to impress his new in laws, with his Portuguese language knowledge and he goes, trafico intenso aqui, but trafico means drug trafficking in Portuguese. You're supposed to say transito Intenso a t. Yeah. So interesting. So it's commerce. Traffic is commerce Yeah. In blacks. Right? You said what about in what about in Bouvier? Does does it have traffic in Bouvier?
[03:59:52] Unknown:
I I didn't look in there. When I saw that definition, I said, oh, well, that's very interesting, isn't it?
[04:00:17] Unknown:
If it is all commercial, or financial, the court system, your traffic laws, what contract are they using
[04:00:29] Unknown:
to apply to you?
[04:00:32] Unknown:
What if you don't have one? Or like in Cheryl's case, never had one.
[04:00:40] Unknown:
Well, I mean, that's, you know, that's a good question because I got I got in, like, eight citations one night for driving without a license, and I never had a driver's license. And then when the judge told me he was gonna suspend my license for a year, I laughed. Because I've never had a license. I was like, I started laughing. He goes, this isn't funny, mister Wistika. I said, well, I think it kinda is because you're suspending something I've never had. And he goes, I'll I'll make it two years if you want. I said, one year's enough. Don't you think?
You know, I it's gotta be the birth certificate and the Social Security account. That's what I think they're doing. The birth certificate is how they get is is how they get in jurisdiction over people.
[04:01:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Because I I pulled out my, certified copy, and there are two signatures on it, which form a contract. So I found that interesting. And one of the signatures was not either my mom or my dad. It was the doctor and the registrar.
[04:01:53] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[04:01:55] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:01:57] Unknown:
Interesting.
[04:02:01] Unknown:
Yeah. It's almost like,
[04:02:03] Unknown:
go ahead, Saoirse. I was just gonna say, so I do think that that is the contract that everything stems from.
[04:02:13] Unknown:
Well, you know, it makes sense. The doctor, an agent, and then the mother. Right?
[04:02:21] Unknown:
Well, she didn't the letter Yeah. But she didn't sign. She hand printed. No. The registrar
[04:02:30] Unknown:
signed. Registrar. Right. That's at the registrar. But that's that's a unilateral contract then, isn't it?
[04:02:38] Unknown:
Well, you have two signatures, the doctor and the registrar.
[04:02:42] Unknown:
How's the doctor having the right over the baby? All because it's under the it's under the doctor's care. Cool.
[04:02:52] Unknown:
And now I don't know what to do with this thing.
[04:02:54] Unknown:
You didn't find that on your birth certificate? I just it was brought up last week. I thought you were on the call, but you might have already left by the time I pulled mine out and looked at it because George had brought something up about it. So I find it interesting that that could be the the foundation of every implied contract that they use.
[04:03:20] Unknown:
Could be.
[04:03:22] Unknown:
I I Because you're property. Because you're property. But once you put in that affidavit coming out of the fourteenth amendment, not being a US citizen, doesn't that change everything? Or by holding that document and not resending it, the birth certificates?
[04:03:42] Unknown:
I think you yeah. You guys just rescind it. You know? You gotta look up the birth return. This is where I got the idea from. I found this thing called the birth return where the father, after about three months of the baby being born, what he would do is he would write on the back of the birth certificate, right, how the that the baby was okay, that the baby got to carry what it needed, and the baby's alive and well. And that's what he had to do. And I found that to be very interesting. And I said, well, look at that. What does that do when they do the birth return?
Right? They're returning the certificate. Right? So I guess you can update it in the bible, the family bible. Right? And now you don't have this contract with the state anymore. Oh, we got it from here, guys. Thanks so much. Have a nice life. That's what it sounded like to me. And I said, oh, why don't I do that? You know? Mhmm. I don't have a father of my birth certificate. So I I was just telling that, you know, I I got care of maintenance. Like, I'm fine now. I'm the I'm the I'm the thing that was the baby on there. I'm a grown man. I'm in charge of my own affairs.
[04:05:01] Unknown:
How did I say? Right. You're return you're returning the minor estate or you're you're showing that the you're taking, you're not the trustee of that thing anymore of of whatever they've created in the presumption. Right? That's right. Whatever That's basically just a minor account or whatever.
[04:05:20] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like some kind of financial agreement, but I'm I'm resending that contract now. So now that you don't have a financial agreement and I know it is. I I it's gotta be because, if you don't have ID on you and the cops have to ID you for some reason and I've seen them do this in videos, and they this is what they did with me. They get the name and the birth date, and then they can find you in their system. I said that's the birth certificate. I mean, essentially, all the birth certificate is is the name and the birth date. Right?
So that's it. That is and that confirmed it for me. I said that's exactly what they're doing. Because I see they get you know, you see in these videos, some guys walking around with a camera and the cops going, you can't do that. It was all I need your name and your birth date. Those are the two things they don't that's the only two things they need.
[04:06:17] Unknown:
Well, Joe, let me ask you this. So the rescension of your birth certificate, the use of the treasury department then is for discharging debt is no longer valid?
[04:06:33] Unknown:
No. I don't think that has anything to do with it.
[04:06:36] Unknown:
They are separate and distinct, though they run off the same number. Or no. I guess it's Social Security, which is separate. Okay.
[04:06:44] Unknown:
If you have a Federal Reserve note in your pocket, right, a Federal Reserve note is an obligation in The United States. Okay? Whether or not you have a birth certificate, doesn't matter if you can use that obligation or not, right, to acquire something. Okay. Right? So it'd be the same thing as if you turned it back into to the US Treasury to redeem for the loss of money as you're, you know, you're allowed to do. You're supposed to be able to do that, but, of course, they they won't do it. I've tried. I've sent a $10 bill. I go, pursue it to, 12 US code for 11. It says I can redeem this for lawful money, which I intend to do. But so I would like to receive my lawful money for this US obligation known as Federal Reserve Note.
And they, they write a letter back to you. Then they send the dollar back, and they go, we don't do that. Okay. We They'll actually send you the dollar back, which blew my mind. I was like, they didn't even keep it. They sent it back.
[04:07:51] Unknown:
I wonder if you have to start kicking upstairs to the IMF, Joe. Or the b f b I f. Never see it again. Yeah. No. It'll be it'll be converted into into Italian lira or something. Right? Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. We we we sent this to the Vatican, and, here you go, Joe. We made the exchange for you. Here's here's some worthless lira.
[04:08:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Right.
[04:08:16] Unknown:
So, you know, what's interesting about what we were talking about now about the birth certificate, and you earlier were saying like what's on top of the for the title you had the state or whatever. Well the birth certificate it's almost like endorsing it if that is a bank note it's almost like endorsing a check. The mom signs then the doctor signs then the registrar signs and then they send it off to what Department of Labor, pardon the pun, in DC and maybe they sign. And now all of a sudden the dad shows up and he signs and sends it back. It's almost like that check, right?
When you I know some when they're first talking about money in Hong Kong, I'm reading this book, Debt, the first five thousand five thousand years. And, they found these British checks that had like 40 Chinese signatures, really small on the back of them because people just kept endorsing the check and passing it on as money. And, you wonder if that you're doing the same thing with the birth certificate that it's that it's a note of some sort, and they're maybe just passing that around.
[04:09:24] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I think it's it's just a you know, they say it's a bond. Right? And, I I think it is a bond, but it's not like a monetary bond that accrues an interest because there's no value written on there except for the weight, right, which would be the gold. Right? But what I think it is is it's it's like a it's you know, one of the definitions of bond is the slave. Right? A bondman. A slave. And it it's just something that binds somebody into into contracts. Right? Like, that's the financial instrument that they're using to bind people into contracts. And Mhmm.
It's more of like, like, you know, the Department of Labor gets involved with those things because where you have to provide a birth certificate for a job. Like, you don't have to bring the birth certificate in the show to get a job, but you need it in order to get any kind of identification, which is what you use for jobs. So I I I think it's pretty telling that those those things are used in that way to kind of guarantee, you know, The United States currency by by using your labor as their collateral to to print all the Federal Reserve notes.
[04:10:52] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep.
[04:10:56] Unknown:
Now I found a document years ago. It was a finance a UCC financing statement. And I shared it here after the call one day. I think we looked at this thing for, like, two hours. You know? Wonder who if anyone was on that call that day. But we looked at the thing for, like, two hours. It's kinda, like, mulling it over, like, what the heck this thing is. And my thing was that that was how they were creating the Federal Reserve notes, by using the people and the land as collateral to do it. That's why every that's why everything's on security paper. Everything's like, all these certificates are made on, like, this bond paper.
Now the birth certificate, the cars, the deeds to people's homes, because that was all the the financial asset that they're using to make money, right, or to print money. Those things are guaranteed. Like, think about it. Cars use gasoline. Right? The gasoline comes out of the ground. So they use the car as a financial asset because they're gonna get the money back from the taxes on the registration, on the licenses, on the gas, on all the oil used in the cars. So there's a lot of money to be made from these cars on that, you know, that, respect. And then the houses too. They use that to use that as a means to get the property taxes.
And then, the first certificate to get your labor.
[04:12:49] Unknown:
But, Joe, what you were mentioning earlier is that even if your car isn't registered, they tow it off. Wouldn't that stem from the birth certificate then?
[04:13:02] Unknown:
Wait. Say that again?
[04:13:04] Unknown:
If you don't register your car and they still tow it off, isn't that coming from the birth certificate as the foundational contract?
[04:13:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. It comes from that because the certificate of title has The US person, which is that name, and then has the residency, fourteenth amendment, the address of the person. The name is usually spelled out. Sometimes it's it goes either way on the certificate's title. And in different states, it's a little different, but I think it's because they they treat them a little bit differently, you know, by the state jurisdiction. So, like, in some states, it's last name first and then first middle name, which is, like, all shipping stuff. And then some of the times, it's the first, middle, last name or first and last name, which is financial.
Mhmm. And I think the difference is that, in some of those states, they won't tow the car unless the cop wants to. And those other states, it's it's, it's mandatory that they tow the car if it's not registered. And it's probably based on how the name is spelled on those certificates.
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What? That's amazing.
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Yeah. Because the the so first name, middle name, last name, it's all financial contracts, right, which is all done in trust anyway. Right? First name, middle initial, last name, financial contracts. First name, middle initial with a period, last name is like all shipping contracts. So it's like shipping storage. Right? Or if it's last name, comma, first, middle name, that's all shipping storage contracts. So it changes. I find it's a different version that it gets names that's spelled differently.
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I believe if you use the Christian interpretation of the names, you can drop the surname. It's your first and best.
[04:15:26] Unknown:
Yeah. They don't like yeah. I've noticed that the courts don't like when you do that. You know, they get they go in an uproar when you only use the first name, and you refuse to use the last name. And I think it's because they have a property interest in the last name because it's part of the clan. And it's the feudal system like what Raj was talking about. It's all futile. They go, well, we have that name because that came from your parents. And your parents, we owned your parents, so we own you. And There goes you stop using your name. It's
[04:15:56] Unknown:
it's Satan's court, and it's Satan's usage more more more likely than anything. That's why I like staying away from it. It's and it's a good legal argument.
[04:16:07] Unknown:
Yes. I gotta I gotta go because I'm gonna Hey. Just really quickly, Joe. So couple,
[04:16:14] Unknown:
the birth return of your birth certificate, along with the affidavit is we need to do that return the birth return. Is that what you're saying as well?
[04:16:27] Unknown:
I'm not saying you need to do that. I'm saying that that was the idea that I got from looking at that stuff. It was from, like, a nineteen o seven congress, or an act of congress in nineteen o seven. And I I I found that I gotta find it. I can't find it. I lost it somewhere. I gotta go dig for it. Once I find it, I'll share it.
[04:16:48] Unknown:
But I'll be back with you. Alright. Have a delightful day. Thank you. Alright. You too.
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And here we are again. So would we, Alvin. Gonna try. We're gonna we're gonna lean on Brent Winters today, see if he can help us. So here we go on the Friday edition. Brent, if he's not here, we'll be here shortly. I think I see Francine up there. So it's the Friday edition, Rogers Sales Radio Ranch with Brent and Francine, and it is the March 14. And, wow. We're clipping right along. We are, on a number of platforms, I think, today, and mister Paul Beaner is the one that's the keeper of said platforms, and he's the one that helps give them credit for assisting us in spreading our message. Don't you, Paul?
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Yes. I do. I well, I attempt to do that anyway.
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No. I think you do a good job of it.
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Alright. Well, thank you. Thank you. Your check is in the mail. We're on EuroFolkRadio.com. Euro Folk Radio Com. That's easy for you to say. Thanks to our buddy, pastor Eli James. Still keep those prayers coming, recovery from that triple bypass. We want him as strong and and as vocal as he can possibly be. We're also on Global Voice Radio network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. That's hosted on the PodHome platform, which also hosts the Radio Ranch archives. Just give people a heads up, there was a four zero four error message. There was a problem. There was a hiccup with accessing the archives over the last day or so that has been fixed.
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It's broke.
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And we're also on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paul,
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across the Thank you, Paul.
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Did a great, great show yesterday. It was Wow. Was it? Okay. Holy Ghost Live. And, he's gonna try and, join us today. Oh, it's always a second hour.
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Okay. Well, we always welcome him, so that'd be good. Yep.
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So the, website is the matrixdocs,d0cs,.com, and there is a new student section. It's in red. Underneath the blue box in the upper right hand corner, it says new students click here. And the the first part of that page is is, like, all the key resources for and interviews for new folks that, are joining us. Let's see. That's it. And I have I I do believe that mister Winters
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has joined us. I think he did. I think he pulled in. He hitched his horse up out there. Hey. Morning, Brent. Morning, Francine. Morning, audience. Doing alright this morning, Brent, I hope. Yeah. How are you, Roger? No. I'm pretty good all in all. We got a little sunshine this morning. That's a nice change. Yeah. What's going on? We're in our we're in our winter season down here. March and April is kind of the rainy season they call it. It's just man, we have had nothing but clouds for, like, two weeks. Maybe occasionally a little sun, but yesterday is like cold, really cold for here and, rainy and all that yesterday. So, anyway, I hope we'll pull out of this pretty quick, which I think we will.
So, anyway, that's about how I'm doing.
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Well, for those of you that maybe don't know, Roger, the man I'm talking to, lives right almost on top of the Equator in South America. Yeah. So when I asked him about the weather, I really want to understand. And it's an unusual place near Quito, Ecuador. Never been there myself. Yeah. Mhmm. But Roger's there, and he he learned to talk Spanish real good. And Well, I don't know about that now. Don't go out on a limb. Better than us Americans. And he hangs out he hangs out with a lot of expats from America down there. They get together once a week and have a little,
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breakfast or something. No. A little lunch. A little lunch. A little lunch. A little that's a for the uninitiated, that's Almorso
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is one. And then you have to take a break because the whole blasted country goes into remission and takes a siesta for a couple of hours. They don't do that here too much.
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They do it in Argentina. This is not necessarily a siesta country. And even if you're in a siesta country, if it's in one of the main cities where business is done, they probably will not honor that. Some might, but not most, you know, chasing the well, chasing the almighty dollars, their deal. You know? Uh-huh.
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Well, I never thought about it, but is siesta a Spanish custom from the old country?
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Yes. Oh. Now they really recognize it in Argentina except for in Buenos Aires. K? But the rest of the country, and I mean at 12:30, all of the stores have some sort of metal or gate or something in front of them, so there's no breaking glass and looting. I don't know what that's hungover from. Part of this is just the Spanish culture from what I've come to understand. Like, for example, if you're building a house here, you'll build a wall around the lot before you'll start building the house. And everything is pretty much walled, in the residential sections. And, and, that taking the stores offline at 01:00 or 12:30 might be the same thing. But, anyway, they start pulling down the metal or the gates or whatever they've got. And by one, everything's closed up except for, well, where I was.
The main grocery store didn't close and a couple of kiosks didn't close, and the gas stations didn't close. So those are the three thing everybody else, was shut down till five. Now there's got some really interesting ramifications, really. I would have never known this had I not lived there. But in down there, three hundred and sixty five days a year, every that whole family gets together for lunch. And if that forms an unbreakable bond with the family down there, I I don't know if the new world order could even break that up, quite frankly. And then they eat lunch, and then some of them may go siesta, some of them go exercise, ride bikes.
I always thought that about half the country was probably procreated at siesta. And, then at 05:00, everything opens up except for government offices and banks. Then everything goes till 09:00. So the restaurants don't there's a couple of savvy restaurants that are open at 08:00 for the extra gringos because we don't like eating that late. Most of us don't. And, but the other restaurants don't open till 09:00. And so it shifts the whole day, and it's kinda interesting. It's like living on a double shift.
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Uh-huh.
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Do you wanna look at it anyway?
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Yeah. Of course, as I get older, I understand why people wanna take a nap at Well noon thereafter.
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Right. Well, they're up in the High Desert, man. It gets a hundred and five, a hundred and ten in the afternoon. They gotta get out of that sun.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. But for some reason, it's not part of the English speaking world to do that on an official Mhmm. Way. We we power through, sleepy times. And after you eat a big meal do they eat a big meal at dinner time down there? The main meal of the day is lunch,
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and then dinner is a secondary meal.
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Well, that explains it then. I didn't know that. Yep. I I remember when I was a teenager, we'd be out in the field farming, and my mother would come by with a big meal. And that was our big meal was dinner time. And supper was supper, and that, you know, wasn't a big deal. But she'd throw a quilt out on the grass on the edge of the field, and we'd all shut down our machines and come running up there. Of course, being boys, we were so hungry we couldn't see straight, and we'd plow into the macaroni and cheese and the chicken or whatever she had there, mashed potatoes, gravy, and we'd settle on the blanket neat. And, then I'd get on I crawl back onto the tractor, and I'd be driving down through the field, and the wind would be behind me just about one mile an hour faster than the tractor would run. So that dust just slowly engulfed me, and the sun was beating down on me.
My head would start bobbing, and then I heard something slamming the side of the tractor. And I woke up, and I looked over. My granddad was going the other way, and he had to put a pile of hard dirt clogs up on the platform of his tractor to throw at me to wake me up. We go back and forth. You know? And he finally said my granddad said, grandpa Charles Melvin is his name. Said, now Brent, get down to end the field. He said, if you really gotta sleep and you can't stay awake, I don't want you piling that rig up in the fence row. So you get off of the tractor and lay down for five minutes. I mean, let go entirely, or you can just sit on the tractor, put your arms and your head on the wheel, but you gotta let go entirely. You can't try to stay awake. You gotta let go.
And if you do that for five minutes, you'll crawl back on the tractor, and you'll you'll be awake, and it'll be and I learned to do that, and it worked well. But it's more important to take that five minutes or maybe ten minutes and let go when I get tired, and then I can get up and I go back to work. And I'm still doing that, by the way, when I get hit that way. And if I eat the wrong thing at noontime, like some heavy or heavy meal. You know? Yes. Of course. That'll happen to you. I didn't understand that when I was a boy. You know, I just keep plowing ahead no matter what it did, I thought. But I understand the siesta and and what's behind it if that's the noon if the noon meal is a big one. I get it now. Yep. You just taught me something. Yep. I appreciate that. But, yeah, we do that. I went out the big meal isn't so much, where I'm from. It was always at noontime in the Midwest. And, I don't know that true anymore in Midwest. But to me another
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Go ahead. Another interesting difference between the two. I would never known. Down here, none of the sports teams and, you know, soccer's big and all that. Yeah. None of the sports teams are affiliated with a college, school, or university. They're all private clubs, and all of ours are. You know? So that's a pretty big difference.
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Uh-huh. Uh-huh. No. That that is different. Now high school and I don't know how all this all figures in. I keep learning, but, I did discover that, Scottish people invented high school. And they called it they called it adult education. Because nobody thought about going to school even in America. My parents didn't go to school, and my uncles and all that. And granddad, they didn't go to school past the eighth grade. Didn't see a reason to. You know? The law at that time, I think, said they had to, but they didn't because they couldn't. I mean, there was no way to get to town anyway. And when they tried to, some of them, it didn't work out. And, so they just didn't go. And I did have a my my father's sister, she moved to town, got a room, rented a room, which some people did. My mother-in-law did that too with her brothers. They rented a room. They from the Nebraska Panhandle, they rented a room in a little town and tried to go to high school, but they weren't able to finish because it did wasn't enough money to pull it off. And that now my dad's sister went to work at the soda she soda jerked at the drugstore in little town, and that's how she got through high school and lived with the people, rented a room with the people that owned the drugstore.
I don't know if she knew them beforehand. I never thought they did. But the high school, though, that was called adult education, and, the Scottish people invented that during the Scott what we call the Scottish enlightenment. They invented the high school, and they said, people that are grown can go to school too if they want to. They did a lot of things back then, and then Scotland was a poor country. But they came up with a lot of ideas that have stuck, not all of them for good. Now high school, of course, has gotten to be nothing but a seminary of Satan to indoctrinate children to be sex perverts. Now you think I'm exaggerating. No. No. That's all they care about. As we've worked, reading reading is not important. Writing, arithmetic, that's not important. And this is a point we could talk about, Roger. There are some people listening, the grandparents and parents that may be wondering about educating their children and don't wanna send them to the public school system.
And I can understand why. And I went through that, but I was I went through it with my children back in the early eighties when we started trying to bring up a family, and we decided we didn't wanna send them to the government schools. And so we we said, oh, we're just gonna keep them at home. Well, we didn't realize what kind of trouble that would cause. Not only with the powers that be with her but with her own family. Our own families were still most people were indoctrinated at that time into thinking that America is great and America is good and we're the good guys. Of course, we we had been after World War two. And when you and I were in school, Roger, we were on top of the world.
We were the good guys and the other people were the bad guys. And we were teaching people the right thing, and we were Christian folk, and it all seemed good. And I went to school. My teachers were in the same church group we were in. The bus drivers were the local preachers from little churches around there in the countryside, and that was the system, and we prayed at school. This is a government school. And, everybody there knew my grandparents and my parents. Well, that's a different kind of a world. Well, all that's gone away. So now what are we gonna do? We have a duty to maintain reality. Christianity, by the way, is the only reality. It is it is reality, the reality, and everything else is tending towards fantasy.
Fantasy. People worship things were nice, but they ain't. No. Life is rough. It's tough, and it's dangerous. And without the orders of the order that the book God has given us puts in place, we will be annihilated. Our families will be destroyed. Our country will fall to the wayside and become the tail and not the head. That's the clear message of the Bible, and those are some of the biblical phrases that are used. Well, we decided we want to do that. And I said, well, if I'm gonna be in charge of this school by the way, I named it the Charles Melvin. I may named it after my Charles Charles Melvin Hudson. I named it after my granddad. They didn't call him Charles Melvin. They call Melvin. They called him Melvin.
They didn't call him Charlie. They called him Melvin. I don't know why, but that's what they called that's what I knew him as, of course. I called him grandpa. We used to call people grandpa and grandma. That was what we called them. We didn't say grandma Melvin. You know, we used the last names. That that's a shift in our culture too. But, of course, when you got great grandparents, that can get confusing because you got two grandmas that have the same last name, so we had to adjust for that. But other than that, I said, I if we're gonna educate our children, I better figure out what's going on here. I better try to understand what my philosophy of education is type thing. So I began to do some serious studying, and I was sitting on a gold mine.
Or, well, we wanted it to be a gold mine. It was a mining property out in, the wilderness of the Elephant Country. I called it the Arizona Desert. And being out there a lot and not having a lot of social interaction, I took time. I'd run on weekends. I'd run to town, get books out of libraries. There were a couple of towns close there. They had libraries, and I began trying to understand. I thought maybe there was a mystery to education. I thought maybe I needed to be educated on education. I thought I was a stupid one. I thought a lot of things that weren't true, and, no, that's not true. What is education? I'm gonna quote a fellow that some people that listen to these, this platform probably hate.
But he's he's probably one of the most well known men in the world, And I think he was caught in a terrible vice, and he did things he hadn't ought to do, but, but he wasn't stupid. There are a lot of people you don't agree with. They aren't stupid. Like the Romans used to say, it's good to learn even from your enemies. Sometimes they know stuff that you wish, you know, knew, you know, find out how to do things. And if you're unwilling to learn from those you don't like and your enemies, you're gonna go down. You better be learning letter letters and lessons about, about warfare from your enemy.
And if you're nailed down and refuse to do that, he's gonna get you. Well, he knows some tricks, by the way, but Abe Lincoln said somebody asked him one time. Of course, he went not even one full year of formal education, not even one full year, and he was about he would have been a third grader at that time. He lived, they'd he'd born in Kentucky. They moved across the Ohio River in Southwest Indiana, pay place called Pigeon Creek. And, when he got to be about eight or 10, they there was a school set up there in the wilderness. At that time, that was the wild and wooly West. Lincoln was born in '27.
Oh, by the way, the same year that Jeff Davis was born. And, by the way, both both of them born in the same state. Is that right? Yeah. Both of them born Kentucky, and and Abe Lincoln said one time, said, he met somebody from Virginia or Virginia as they used to say, and people didn't call him Lincoln at where he was from. They called him they pronounced it Linkhorn. Linkhorn, like corn, like c o r n, Linkhorn. And, they asked him, well, do you know anybody from Virginia? And he said, I got more kin in Virginia than a Blue Ridge rabbit.
All all of those fellows that were involved in that not all of them, but the leaders, most of them. Well, at that time, America was dominated by, by people that had come through the mountains. How is she gonna get to the western parts of the country unless you come through the Cumberland Gap? That was the big opening, and there were a couple other places. But the Cumberland Gap opens up, by the way, right where the Kentucky and Virginia come together. Of course, Kentucky, was part of the colony of Virginia, by the charter of, the crown and as well as most of Illinois, Indiana.
See, Virginia was a big big, land grant, and it started way up West Virginia, which goes clear up to Pennsylvania, the Mason Dixon Line, and even beyond runs clear west as far as the new land would go. Well, so all the people that came through the gap that populated those places were, primarily Virginians. And, when the war started, Patrick Henry was governor of the war with England, Britain. Patrick Henry was governor, and he commissioned a group of men to go into that territory called the Northwest Territories and take it back from England. France had it, then England had it, and then Virginia said it's ours. We have it by charter, and that's one of the reasons why they went to war. My the many of the colonies, because it says right in the declaration that they had violated their charters and taken our lands. And they wouldn't England said nobody can go west of the Alleghenies.
They said, no. No. No. The charter says that that land is ours. So he commissioned a fellow. His name was George Rogers Clark, and he had a 60 men from Kentucky, about a 60. And they call them the long knives. Everybody call them the long knives. They were a nasty bunch. I mean, they were just clothed animals pretty much. And, of course, he had to try to control them, but they were dangerous men. And that's the kind of men you gotta have for war, dangerous men. You don't got dangerous men who are willing to fight. You shouldn't be fighting. I was thinking, Roger, today, this morning, I got madder than an old wet hen. I was I won't tell you what I was doing, but I got mad.
I don't know why it came to mind, and I thought, you know, when I was a boy, we'd go to my great grandmother's. We called her grandma Mackenzie because that was her name. And her father was a veteran of that awful war between the states, the Northern and the Southern Tiers. His name was Matthew McKenzie. That was my great grandma, and I knew my great grandma and her father, and she had his rifle that he carried during the war with its bayonet setting in the in the bedroom on the Southeast part of her house there, the Southeast bedroom, we called it, and it was setting up in the corner in there. And when we'd get there, we'd go to her house for Thanksgiving and and, Easter.
And, of course, all us mumskins running around, all us children, all us cousins, or dozens of us seemed like, and we'd be going that they'd run us outside when they get tired of us inside. But inside, if it was cold, we'd play hide and seek in the house. And for little children, you think you're hiding, you know, we get in that closet and we it would darken there, but we could feel that rifle with our hands. And we knew it was in there and we wanted it, get it out and look at it, of course. And then aunt Bessie, my grandma Mackenzie's oldest daughter, she get out this 10 box, had a bunch of 10 types in it. Remember the 10 type?
You've heard of the 10 type pictures they used to take?
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Oh, on on the negative?
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Yeah. On the negatives. And we and that's the way they used to have pictures, and it had 10 types in it of the family, pictures taken a hundred and seventy years ago or something now. Goodness. And lots of them. And my grandma on the other winners on the other side of the family, she had a lot of 10 types too. And I wonder now what happened to all those, but she had 10 types and she had all the letters that her grandpa, my grandmother great grandmother's father had written home when he was, in the, army in Tennessee. And, he only had one injury. He was founding member of the Grand Army of the Republic.
And then in the pictures, I never knew him, but I'd see pictures of him later. He even in his bev overalls, he would wear his medal. He always wore his medals even when he was working. I mean, that's a we we don't we cannot fathom how big a deal that war was to men Alright. And how awful it was. Right. But the only injury I had my grandpa Douglas died of a disease he caught in camp, and he only lived it lingered in his body. It was very dangerous just to be in the military forces back then. It lingered in his body until he died at age 42. It just finally killed him. It was weekly that. But but the only injury grandpa Matthew McKenzie got was, a snowball fight in Tennessee.
And both sides I mean, a skirmish. Both sides ran out of ammunition, and so the boys started throwing snowballs at each other. Yeah. And it was snow in Tennessee. It doesn't happen often, but there was snow there. They had a snowball fight. And, some some smart aleck on the other side put a rock in the snowball and hit him in the nose. Yep. Right. But I said to myself this morning, Roger, if soldiers are having fun with snowball fights on both sides, that's a war that shouldn't be fought. There's something seriously wrong. Yeah. I mean, if you're not out to destroy the enemy and win the war, and the boys weren't, they a lot of thing a lot of funny things happened. And it's it there's more than that. I've read a lot about it over the years. There's more to it than that. That war was a sickness of demonism started by people that just love bloodshed. Almost seven hundred thousand boys died.
And how many more lost their arms and legs over what? Over what? Something that we didn't fix. If it was over slavery, that didn't change. Didn't change at all. And up until my lifetime, your lifetime that nothing changed. And, now, there's still the trouble going on. And after all the trouble and the death of madness, we're still trying to figure out and what to do now. The Democrats have taken the course for the over this over the decades, taken the race card and tried to run their party on it. And that's they're running out of with that. They're they're done now.
Yes. They're done. But why all this madness? War like that. And the and they are the ones. They are the ones still who want this bloodshed.
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Right. They want bloodshed in Ukraine. They want bloodshed in Right. In The Middle East. Go ahead, Roger. Well, it's something I was gonna talk about, but I want you to expand what the line you're on right now because there's kind of an alert out there this morning, and I just hadn't gotten around to mention it yet.
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Well, what is it, Roger?
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Well, as, you know, Mike Adams, the health ranger? I haven't done any of his little videos in Oh, he used to be on with us sometimes. No. He hadn't been on with us. I'd love to get his attention, but not him. So what he on the platform, though, but him? Well, no. I don't even think so. No. He's got his own platform, Brydie on. Okay. Regardless, he came out with an alert this morning. I don't know if that's over on I saw it on BitShoot and listened to it right before he went on the air. If I don't know that it would apply to any of our folks. But if you got any kind of assets in Europe, he says get them out and get them out quick. Okay?
He thinks that this whole thing is going to evolve in from some of the information he's gotten, into a war of Europe versus the rest of the world. It would have been us, but Trump's backed us out of there now. And they're just held high water to get this war started because they can't cover up their financial crimes otherwise. I get you. I get you, Roger. Yeah. Probably gonna go into some sort of a seizure over there. Now you go listen to the Mike Adams thing yourself. But, if you got any kind of assets in any way, shape, or form in Europe, his suggestion is to get them out. I think the date that he is floating is April 7.
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Okay. So what they're doing let me let me run this by you, Roger, and see if this makes sense to you. Of course, JD Vance went to Europe and told him, why are we defending you? You don't hold our values. Alright. We spent billions and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars and sending men and materials since World War two, not to mention World War two and how many what we lost there. And you don't believe what we believe. That's really what he said to them. And, then, of course, Trump's policies well, they're they're evil. The leaders are evil. Mhmm. The evil men don't see the light. They're blind and they love bloodshed. And if they can't, as you said, if they can't, have a come to Jesus meeting as the, political pundits were saying on the news, then, they'll just create a mess of things and they don't care.
They don't care who dies. They don't care. They're not gonna let, I just heard this morning during COVID, DJ Trump didn't know what to do. Of course, they were trying to destroy him with the whole thing. Right. And so New York City, the governor there was going crazy and saying, oh, there's all we're all gonna die and the hospitals are full. He said, okay, I'll send a hospital ship up there. Yep. The comfort and also Christian groups, Christian groups came in and tried to set up to help people, and the governor rejected all that. Yep. Why why did he reject it? Especially because they were Christian groups. Oh, they're Christians? They hate everybody. They hate, the other races. Must I remind ding dongs like that? Must I remind them that it's Christian folks that stop the slave trade in the world?
Christian folks. Way back when. It's Christian folks that said, no. We don't wanna slaughter each other. If slavery is wrong, let's just get rid of it. And Christian folk were doing that. Christian folk are the ones that you, you folk, are the ones that have like somebody said in the ancient past, and they were educated to it. The poor people are a gold mine. That's what they've been to the Democrats. A way of somebody to use to pump everybody for money to do whatever they wanted to do, which was evil. Well, I was getting upset about that this morning, Roger, but go ahead. I I see the point. Take your money, pull back. The policy now is America First. And what does that mean to you? That means you first, You can't help anybody else until you take care of yourself.
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You can't help anybody if you're not strong. I'll tell you that.
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You can't save the world if you can't pay the rent. You can't save the world if you can't pay the rent. Go ahead. Somebody's I think it's Dave for one. Hey, Dave. What you got? Yeah.
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I heard something pretty good the other day. So there's 850,000,000 Europeans begging three fifty million Americans to protect them from 140,000,000
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Russians. Right.
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Right. That's good. What
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I heard Roger is that there's hundreds of billions of dollars worth of Russian assets in Europe that have been frozen. Yep. They haven't been confiscated because they have to declare war in order to legally confiscate that.
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Well, could be, Samuel. I think we've got 300,000,000,000. I think we've got 300,000,000,000 of Russian assets too. Well, maybe they I don't know. Take maybe they're all in Europe. I I I don't know. I don't know the clarification on that, but I do know that all the gold in the world has is either in The US, any extra gold in the world, or else it's headed there. They're they're bringing gold back. Do you know that, Brent, that over there in the world? Sure. I don't know a lot about it, but I'm amazed. Gold's doing good. Silver's on It was almost at $3 yesterday just as just I think silver is about 34 or 35. Uh-huh.
They over at the London Bullion Market Exchange, they've taken all of the exchange's gold, and it's been even air in planes over to to The US. And if you wanted to go buy gold at the London Bullion Market Exchange today, it's usually the day you order plus one or two days. Uh-huh. Now it's eight weeks.
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Well, that's the way it is. We gold dealers too in in our own country. Yep. But here's that. And it's always that one.
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Three or I'm going to go over $309 and change or $3,009
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and change. Okay. So it popped that imaginary line that probably is going to cause a lot of activity. I remember, Robbie Noel, who was a stockbroker for a while, used to say goal climbs a wall of worry. And, boy, it's got a lot of climbing to do right now.
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That's amazing. Well, three options three options we have for organizing our lives. And all men all over the world only have three options fundamentally. And then, of course, they're bleeding over between the two. You either have tribalism, nationalism, or imperialism, empire. That's the only three options you have. And I think it's clear from the Bible that God ordains nationalism. He ordains it. Tribalism is nothing but never ending warfare witnessed the tribes, the red man tribes of America. They were constantly slaughtering each other before the white men got here. And of course they wanted to slaughter the white men. They all got together in different ways, but even then they were practicing, slavery and mass against each other, slaughtering each other, torturing each other in ways that, we don't even wanna talk about. And they tried that on the white boys and but there was no stopping the white boys. They just kept coming and eventually that was all stopped. That's tribalism.
And then there's imperialism, which you people also call empire. Those are Mhmm. Words that talk empire and imperium means government by the command of a single will. That's what the word means. That's what it is. That's what all of the world operates under right now under the code of Justinian, the the civil laws of Rome, the canon civil laws of the Roman and the Orthodox Church. That's imperian imperial government by by command of a single will. And then there is common law government, of course, and there's only a few countries that have that. Fundamentally, England and all of her colonies and former colonies, and we fall into that category.
That's our common law government. And under common law government, that's nations. Nations, not tribalisms. But the balance of of, strength is God's order. And God's order says nationalism, and nationalism comes down to strong families. One man, one woman, Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. It's that kind of fundamental and everybody paying attention to what goes on in their house. Not, the, individual and individuals running a muck without any connection to families. We got a lot of that today too. That seems to be the pen all over the world.
So but nationalism is what God ordains. You read the Bible, you see it over and over again, how he divides the land. It's all a matter of land of the earth up among, among combinations of tribes, tongues, and nations. And that's what you have with nationalism. And we in America are doing something that nobody, has done in a common law country before, not to the degree we've done it. You know, England was the melting pot of Europe. People came all over Europe to England. And the Englishman is a mixture of many different kind of people, frankly. And they have done very well because of the order of their common law tradition, and we fall under that same common law order as well.
And we're more English at this point than the English as some comparative lawyers have said. We practice our common law with a more of a vengeance. We practice the features of of our common law, separation of powers. They practice separation of powers, but it's not as intense as ours. For instance, their de facto chief executive of their nation is also the leader of the dominant party of their national legislature. That's we don't do that here. The Bible does the Bible does permit that, but we take it a step further and we say, no. We don't even want that. Now we don't want our chief executive, but they're king or queen. Whoever holds the crown is a component of their national legislature, a component. And then the crown turns over the sovereignty of the nation to the legislature.
When the legislature goes in session. You've got this these relationships between the three branch of government. There's a separation there. Yes. But, traditionally, I don't know what it's like now back when I was studying law. The house of Lords, the upper chamber of the national legislature, the upper house, as we call it here, the Senate, that was the Supreme court of last resort. The upper house was in their country instead of the court. So you've got this, this, bleed over from one branch of government to the other. Well, we don't have that here. We got a Supreme court and that's it. They're not the legislature. And we even built Washington, DC of all the ugly things that are in the I call them just flat demonism in the architecture and layout of Washington, DC.
But we did insist, for whatever reason, that we separate the White House from the Legislative House, the Capitol Building by a mile, just well in symbolic recognition of the separation of the powers of government. Then the Supreme Court now has their own building. We finally did that. And it's they're not they don't meet in the Capitol Building, and there's a separation of powers there. There's not and just the simple thing is like, you know, you go to your courthouse, Roger, you got the Sheriff's office often. You got the prosecutor's office. You got the judges. If those folk are all in the same courthouse, they're all on the they're all on the same team. They say good they say good morning to each other every morning. They see each other. They eat lunch together in many respect. Oh, yeah. That's not healthy.
There needs to be more of a separation. We have that by in symbol of Washington, DC. When the Supreme Court justices go to work, they don't have to say good morning to the legislators or the president. They're not all buddies. You know, people in court houses, they think they're all on the same team. They call themselves the courthouse staff. And I have done business in courthouses for a long time, federal federal courthouses, same way. You got, you got the prosecutor's office and the prosecutor, that's the executive branch. That's under the president of The United States in the same building with, district US district court. Now that's not good. That's not good at all because they get to thinking they're all there to prosecute people, and they're all there to vindicate the federal government. And we're all government employees and are like, one lawyer said to me, I'd mentioned early on. I said, well, you know, there is a there is a separation of powers there. He said, yeah. But notice the prefix on their telephone numbers and from the prosecutor to the judge's chambers is all the same.
And we got a we got a problem here, and we do. Yes, sir. And you ask them who they work for, and they don't even know. I ask, you know, a probation. They call it probation, bail officer, the pretrial officer that goes to watch people before they go to trial while they're on bail and all that. And I asked, this officer said, who do you work for? There was a hesitation. The officer didn't know, but made something up and said, well, I work for the US attorney's office. I said, are you sure about that? I think it might be a good idea if you check really who you're answerable to here. Well, the officer didn't know, didn't have a clue, thought they worked for the court and, or thought they worked for the prosecutor when the truth is they work for the court and they answer to the judge and they're not a separation. There's this incestuous relationship going on between the US attorney's office and the judges. They help each other. They know each other. They they wish each other well in the morning. As I said, do you think that's a small thing? Do you think they can keep it separate? No. You couldn't either, and neither could I. You wanna get along with people. You wanna be nice to people.
But in this case, we don't wanna do that. We wanna separate those powers. Which Supreme Court justice was it that said during the, Johnson administration and he'd get invited to the White House, it might have been chief justice Warren, get invited to the White House for little get togethers and events and suppers, and he wouldn't go. He would never accept an invitation to the White House. And he encouraged the other justices, whichever one it was, you can look it up, encouraged them not to accept invitations to the White House either. And he said publicly, I don't accept invitations. It's a matter of my duty.
I don't want the Americans to think that I'm in any way supporting what Johnson is doing one way or the other. Right. One way or the other, whether I support the war in Southeast Asia or whether I don't. Mhmm. Well, we need a revitalization of that attitude in government. Maybe it will happen. Peep I've heard people say, Roger, that what DJ Trump is doing is all show business. I've heard that. I've heard people say that that's on the Internet, that it's all a sham. He's just playing. They're all on the same team. They keep saying it and they get come up with all the evidence. Well, even even if that's true, and I'm not saying it's true, but even if that's true, it's given us, given us all a different, impression about what we can and can't do. And it is emboldening people to speak and to write and to act with more boldness. Right. It is.
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What I'll tell you one thing I don't like is this, leaning to Zionism so heavily. For example, they pull it all out bulletin and all the resources to go get this kid that's some sort of a Palestinian student at Columbia and deport him when there's all of these crooks that they need to be going after and Epstein lists that need to be out there and all these other things, and they're prioritizing a Palestinian student at Columbia. That's gotta tell you something. It's not pretty.
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Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the president has withdrawn about $400,000,000 from Columbia. Student grants and loans and etcetera. $400,000,000. These guys are hurt. Columbia couldn't continue. And they they did it saying, well, here's what they're saying, that there's antisemitism on the campus. Now is that what you heard too? Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, it'd be a blessing if they could take Columbia down. That's the Frankfurt School hotbed of you know, one time I looked on the secretary of state's website, and they had a whole list of really important people there about ten, fifteen.
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Every one of them had a PhD from Columbia. Every one of them. Oh, Columbia is no small thing. Just a bit of background that people don't talk about because the news is just nothing about hype. But I believe Columbia was the first teacher's college in America, and its founder was Thomas Dewey.
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Well, that says a lot right there, does it? That says a lot, doesn't it? See, Thomas Dewey,
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born, I believe, in 1859 and died in 1959. He lived a long time for sure about a hundred years. Yeah. And he's called the father of modern American education. He's a rank communist, a rank atheist. Yep. He's the founder of the teachers college movement, probably hundreds of teachers colleges I know. And where I grew up, there were two, three, four teachers, colleges built about 1900. That was at his influence. I mean, as a young man, he got this thing rolling. He said, what we need is teachers and colleges that are government schools that will promote the government's line. Standardized. And, and he invented the word socialism Yeah. And socialization.
And what he meant when he said that was we need to make our children socialist. That was the whole idea. And people said to me, when I, and this is how this stuff hangs on and people don't even know what they're saying. I had close family members. I've told you about, my granddad Mackenzie, and I had his grandchildren, which were my aunts and uncles. They went crazy. When I took my children, I never did send them to school. I just kept them at home. I, and I was homeschooling and they went crazy and they said to me over and they'd get me aside and try to lecture me when we'd have family get together, said Brent, your children will not be properly socialized.
That they didn't know what they were saying. That's from Tom Dewey, a communist and an atheist.
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Yep. And he I don't want my children socialized.
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Yes. And he wanted right. And what he wanted was to he said, listen, we cannot control America with our atheism and our communism, unless we can get control education. He understood that that's why the teachers colleges, took over in every state. Now they're called universities, but they're teachers, former teachers, colleges like Columbia. And then he said, we've got to have for our religion, our atheistic religion, we've got to have rights. We have to be able to defend our position under the first amendment religion clauses. And so he signed what he called, I think it's somebody can look it up, the socialist manifesto or the communist man, if no, not the communist. That was the, the something manifesto.
And the whole thing was, of course, that spawned later on Francis Schaeffer in the nineteen seventies wrote a Christian manifesto in response to Tom Dewey's manifesto. I think it was back in the twenties or thirties and trying to get first amendment protection for the religion called atheism. It never did do it. He never did do it, but he wanted it and they pushed hard. He wasn't stupid, but he was a weirdo. And he's the one also I can tell other things that happened at these teachers colleges. See, there were teachers' colleges, and people didn't think anything. Oh, we need more teachers. How wonderful that is. And the teachers' colleges that were back in my neck of the woods in the Midwest that were started, with government money, of course, and they advertise them. They said they said this. We'll have chapel every day in these teachers' colleges, Christian chapel. And they did for decades and then they stopped.
And then, but in the meantime, they were working underneath to build this consensus of atheism and socialism. These are the seminaries of Satan and continue to be. Yeah. Can
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I lift a phrase from TJ here? Minor, minors and sappers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's it. I and, of course, those are the folks well, you tell them, Roger. So people say, what's that? Well, those are the ones that, do work underneath structurally and all that stuff and plant dynamite and all all the things they do to under undermine and underneath, and that's who they are. And Thomas Jefferson realized it a couple hundred years ago Yeah. And adequately identified it.
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Yeah. They were the ones that at Vicksburg, the let me finish this illustration, then you can talk where it was that piped up. At Vicksburg, when Grant was surrounding Vicksburg, his miners and sappers, union soldiers, they were miners, real life coal miners. They went under the Confederate lines, and the Right. The Confederates were doing the same thing, plant massive amounts of explosives Uh-huh. And blew people
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sky high. No kidding. But I think Vicks wouldn't Vicksburg on a high bank of the Mississippi there? It was probably easier for them to mine and sap under the Vicksburg. Probably. I don't I don't remember that. Well, I've driven over the bridge there from, Mississippi to Alabama. Uh-huh. By the way, he just to throw this out, Larry, I'll get you in a second. I don't know if Brent heard this. The per capita income of Germany Two Weeks ago Yeah. Was one beneath Mississippi per capita.
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Oh, man. That's
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how bad bad Germany's gone down. Larry, what'd you have, buddy?
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Yeah. Two questions for Brent. I remember listening one time when Brent was on a Friday and he made the statement, that there's three branches of government and neither branch has to obey the orders of another branch because that's what the separation of powers doctrine is all about. And I was wondering if, Brent has a an opinion as to why Trump just doesn't ignore the orders of the federal courts because they got all these federal judges that pop up there periodically and they'll they'll come out with an order ordering the Trump administration, to not do this or to do this.
And, you know, I remember Roger telling the story that there is this one individual in history that the Supreme Court I think made a decision and
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the, individual said, well, let them enforce it. And they Right. So basically, they just ignored it. So that's my first question. Alright. And then the next one for Woah. Woah. Don't go too much. We can't remember what the first Yeah. I won't remember. So let me let us respond to that one then you can ask for a second. Is that okay? That's fine. You're you're right. And, that was Andy Jackson that said the Supreme Court has made its decision. Now let's see if it can enforce its decision. And that was, according that was with the case of removing the the the five more than five tribe. Many tribe removed them and put them in Oklahoma. I thought it was the second bank of the US that decision. The second bank of the US, he was the same situation, but he, but he he I don't think he said that at that time. What he said at that time, it it applies clearly applies. He said, when he vetoed the renewal of the charter of the of the unit US Bank, which was like the Federal Reserve, he vetoed it. And he said, when I took, an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States, I did not take an oath to support it and defend it as some as someone else understands it such as the Supreme Court. I took an oath to court and defend it as I understand it. And indeed, any oath you take has to be according to your conscious or it's not an oath.
That's like getting on a jury. This is popular in America. You go for jury duty and they say, okay, we've got our 12 jurors here. Okay. Now we want you to take an oath to obey the instructions of the judge. They do that. It's pervasive now. Yep. How silly. Oh, oh, my oath is not to to follow the law, but to follow some personality who might be a sexpert and probably is and been married six or 10 times. And he beats his kids and he he his dogs are more important than his children and on and on and on and on and on you go. The people are sitting on the bench. We have juries for crying out loud. Why? Because we don't trust judges. Isn't that easy? Is there something about that people don't understand? Is there something about that judges are willing unwilling to admit? It's true. That's our common law tradition. Juries do not exist in the rest of the world, the 12 man jury. And that's because we don't trust why don't we trust judges? Because they are as human as we are Yeah. And in positions of power, more so. Who was it that famous famous prime minister said the Jews are just like everybody else, only more so?
And, oh, is this he was Jewish. So Jew the, Disraeli said that. Oh, Disraeli. Okay. He said, I don't know why people don't like Jews. He said they're just like everybody else, only more so. Well, that's the clever statement. Then it's true that once a man gets in a position of influence and power, it doesn't corrupt him. He's already corrupt. You're corrupt. I'm corrupt. We're all corrupt. We have weaknesses. We're wound up and bound up in our own whims and difficulties. You take a man that's why we got juries. God said God said juries. That's why we got them. How many you know, when when we in America or in in England still with criminal cases, but they're about to get rid of their jury and Canada, when we want to decide, whether or not we want to discover a new, element for the periodic table, we go consult the experts. We want to catalog a library, we go consult the experts. We want to find a new solar system system, we go consult the experts. But we want when we in America wanna know who lives or dies in a murder case, we just grab the closest 12 men standing around and ask them what to do.
And the rest of the world thinks we're insane, but we're free. We're freer by far. Oh, yeah. By far. I know we got problems. But as long as we got the jury, we're gonna stay a free nation. And no nation, no common law nation has ever lost its freedom until they got rid of the jury. And we're the by the way, we're the only common law country that that is a common law country, and we're willing to go to war to be a common law country. And our war for separation from Britain was because they were denying us our common law. It's that simple. That taxes, that's neither here nor there. That didn't have a lot to do with it.
The the Tea Party at Boston did not have a lot to do with it. Those were renegades. It may have been true that we were being overtaxed. That wasn't the bottom line. Read the declaration of '76. You'll find out what the bottom line was. And every one of those things that they list in the declaration of '76 came down to their denying a feature of our common law tradition, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to enter new lands, the right to trial fury, admiralty law. They even cite the canon laws of Rome as being used against them to supplant our common law tradition. On and on it goes. That's why we're here. Well, now we share that in common with our with the English speaking world, and we encourage them, and I encourage them. Don't lose your jury up there in Canada. You're losing your jury.
England, you don't even have juries for noncriminal cases anymore. You better get your jury back. What about the grand jury? We got that too. Do they have the grand jury? No. They did away with their grand jury back about 1935. We don't we don't we don't want people to go to trial without a grand jury. That's our common law tradition. By the way, the Bible somebody said, yeah. We grabbed 12 men standing around, and ain't that what Jesus Christ did when he had an important question that needed an answer and a verdict? And that's exactly what he did. And that's what we do. Roger, are you gonna say something? Well, I was gonna say a whole bunch of stuff,
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but I wanted to bring forward something that Robert Barnes said last week on the show. They can impeach judges. We've got some impeachment papers in the congress already on a couple of these rogue judges. And you can impeach a judge on some just bad character or something. You don't have to have them in an offense, particularly.
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It's just a a an observance of bad character. I don't remember exactly the Well, here's what I agree with him. And here's what it comes down to. If Congress wants to impeach him, get him out of the office, they don't really need much of an excuse. They could accuse him of anything. That's way the way it was designed. If the Congress has that kind of power over judges Yeah. And should have. Yeah.
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Also, yesterday, the, birthright citizenship case hit the Supreme Court. It's gonna be very interesting. K? Now what they're doing, and one of the things they're fighting here is these district court judges that can make a decision in their district and controls the whole rest of the country. That's what they're against. Yeah. Well, I'm against that. That's being argued too. It's really interesting. I heard a lawyer, guy on about long oh, a dissertation. He'd written a brief on all this and was going over the brief last time. It's pretty interesting.
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Well, I don't but I'm being foolish. I'm not answering this fella's question, Roger. I gotta get back to it. Why is it Okay. Go ahead, Larry. You've got Yeah. My fault, Roger. It's my fault. Why is it Trump is, is obeying these judges? I'll tell you why. Because it's not politically expedient Yep. To do otherwise. You're better off. This is all comes down to the president saying, okay. I can do this as a matter of law. But in the long run, here's the other thing we wanna point out. The three branches of government ought to get along when they can.
They can agree if they want to, and they often do. But I wanna mention why it is we believe people what happened in America, the presidents have become more Serbian
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supreme court judges. If we'll do that after the music stops Yeah. We're gonna say bye bye to, I think, Chicago today, maybe England. Don't know. England may be coming here. No telling. Paul, get us straight.
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Yep. Thank you, Paul. Paul. Yeah. Appreciate you.
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Well, wait. I gotta answer this. We're we're in the middle of something. We'll give you a shot in a minute. Okay. Go ahead.
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Thank you. We we like it when you do that, but I gotta answer this fella's question. He's got two more. Well, the first question is why why is it judges, they try, they don't want to look like they're being hard to get along with with the Supreme court because the nation politically could turn against them to some degree, every president and every governor, by the way, common law tradition, every one of them, every president refuses to follow Supreme Court orders, some of them. And he chooses very carefully, Supreme Court opinions or orders. He chooses very carefully, which ones he will obey and which ones he will not obey. And it's his right to do that in our common law tradition. We have nobody in government who has the final word. It is a perpetual, if you ever saw I like to use this analogy.
If you ever saw the movie Clint Eastwood, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. And The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, those are the three men that represented. That was a Christian analogy, by the way, that whole that whole story. They don't say that in the movie because they made a movie out of it. Hollywood's not Christian. They'd mask that, but the story was written about the good, the bad, and the ugly. And the man that represents the good, Clint Eastwood played that part. He was an an angel, so to speak. And man that represented the bad, I think his name was Van Cleef.
Yeah. Yeah. And then the man that yeah. And then the man that represented the ugly, they had a Mexican standoff gunfight, a three way gunfight, in a circle, in a graveyard, if you remember. Well, that's what our constitutional government is. It's a three way Mexican standoff, but it it nobody ever gets killed. Vision it this way. Our common law, our whole our whole legal tradition is grounded as our declaration of 76 says, in the laws of nature and the laws of nature's god. Grounded. Picture a tree grounded in the law of the land. And the law of the land has two volumes, the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. So you got this tree rooted deep in the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. And on this tree are three branches.
The tree itself is our constitution of The United States, just as an example. And then on this tree are three branches, the executive department, the presidency, the legislative department, the Congress of the United States and the judicial department, which is the Supreme court of the United States. Our constitution only directly creates one court. That's the Supreme court of the United States. And as you know, Congress then can indirectly and they have, do other courts. But once they do that, they become part of the judicial branch. Those three branches, just like branches of a tree. If you can picture a tree, those three branches are not going to grow down. Why are they going? What are they going to do? They're going to grow up. They're gonna stand up. And what are they gonna do as they're standing up? They're competing for sunlight.
If you want a tree to branch out, you've got to trim the tree as otherwise it will just grow straight up. And I know I've trimmed lots of trees in my life, climbing up there with a chainsaw and cutting out, pick out the right limbs to cut out and, and you do that so that you'll have a, a shade tree around your house. We used to have trees around our house, soft maples. And we did that every year. We tried to keep them so they would spread out. And if you cut the center well, anyway, let do it, how that works. I don't want to go into that. Did just say these three branches, like the branches of a tree are competing, the executive, the legislative, and the judicial they're competing and they know their powers and they're going to exert them to the limit.
That's what they're going to do. But they, but the, the go branch, so there are two political branches of government that have to be careful about the people they represent. That's the presidency or the governor of your state and the any branch, the people in the legislature. And they're going to do it. And when it comes down to it, well then who are they really trying to please the militia of the several States? When our constitution of The United States says we, the people that were people is lifted out of the Bible and the word people is all throughout the Bible. The people, my people, the people, those people.
What does that word mean? The Hebrew word, am, my people, ami, the people, ham. What does that mean? In every case in the Hebrew old Testament, that word means or refers to signifies an armed band of men. That's what that word means. And that's why I translated in the winterized translation. I translate it always armed forces. It's a group of armed men or militia, but more in most all cases, that word refers to the militia of the 12 tribes of Israel, our Puritan foreback bearers as, Winston Churchill observed again, I'm not promoting Winston Churchill. I know he had his problems too, but he did say some things that were true. He said the Puritans were the most biblical race of men that ever lived. I agree with him. They were, and, everything that they said in their speech and their words.
And when, Webster wrote, his 1828 dictionary, he wrote that dictionary for the same reason. He was puritanical Calvinist to the hill. He wrote that dictionary to make sure that the Americans and their English tongue use words the way the Bible used them. Now, I don't, I'd have to look to see what he did with the word people, but I'm giving you personal testimony. I know what that word means. I've looked into it for years. It means the militia of the 12 tribes of Israel. And when the constitution of The United States says we, the people it's talking about the militia, the inner original States, the several States of the union, we, the people of the who ratified the constitution, who put it in place, the militia of the several States, That's who did it. And if you want to complain about it, you complain against them and to do anything else is just silly. They're the ones that knew what was going on. They're the ones that put it in place in every state. Oh, I know people complain about the founders and what scoundrels they were, and I'll agree with them on many cases. They're like the rest of us only more so because they were given power and influence. So they're just like us only more so.
But the reason why we in America, in mass people believe that the Supreme Court of the United States is the final word. It's not. And you won't find that in the constitution of The United States because our constitution is a brief of sub of common law government. It's our common law. It didn't do anything new. The founders weren't geniuses. They were men like you wound up and bound up in your own whims and difficulties and your your weaknesses. But they just said, we want our common law back. Remember a while ago, I mentioned that. We want our common law back. We're, we're British too, you know? And, you can do that to the Indians and the Pakistanis, what you're doing, take the common law away. They won't know the difference. So I get it, but we know the difference.
We're British and, we're tired of it. Now stop. And if you don't stop, we're not gonna do it anymore. And if you wanna fight us, come over here and we got something for you. And amazingly, of course, they were more powerful than us, but we did win that war for a lot of reasons that Yep. Of the intervention, as they said at that time, of God himself and the affairs of men. And guerrilla war. It was guerrilla war. Yes. It was but we had by the way, we had cowboys, sappers, and miners too at at Yorktown.
[01:07:41] Unknown:
Yep. Sure did. Yeah. Well, we got a second question from Larry, and then we've got another fellow that wants to inject something. And then our our friends, Abdul and the night visitors from the East have joined us. So just heads up. Larry, you got a second question?
[01:08:04] Unknown:
Yeah. So I was looking at the Bible. This is a Bible question I get. Well, it's a political question and a Bible question at the same time. And, I like to use I like to depend upon Bible definitions. Like I mentioned yesterday, I like using the word inhabitant instead of domiciled. But anyway, the bible uses this is the King James version, uses the word nation 438 times, and it uses the word country 175 times. It doesn't use the word state in a political sense. And I was wondering what Brent thinks what the difference is between a state, a country and a nation and I'm thinking there's got to be a difference between nation and country since the King James Bible uses those words like, I don't think it's using them interchangeably.
It it's it's just it's making a distinction, I guess. So that's my question. What in his mind, what are those definitions? Nation, country, state, or are they synonymous?
[01:09:18] Unknown:
Okay. Well, let's start with nation. The word gentile is used a lot in most of the English translations, and that is used to translate the word goy, the singular, and goyim in the plural. That's not what that word means. It doesn't mean gentile. Gentile Gentile is just an it's a it's a Latin based word that means that which is generated.
[01:09:44] Unknown:
That which is what? That which is what, Brent? Generated. Somebody's some there's some noise coming in. Those sensitive microphones, if somebody could not wiggle your phone a little bit. Thank you. Brent, go ahead. Oh, Gentile is the same root word as generate
[01:10:01] Unknown:
or like yeah. Generate. Generate means to, start something going and it keeps going. That's the Latin word, generation. Well, you know, the Bible talks about this generation. What does that mean? Does that mean a certain period of time? No. It doesn't mean a certain period of time. It means something that is generated. These are the generations or ten ten times in the book of Genesis. Exactly 10 times. It says, these are the generations of, and then that's what, that's how the book is divided into 10 sections. These are the generations of Adam.
These are the generations of Noah. Well, what does that mean? That means that Adam generated a race of men. And by the way, he generated it and that energy is still going. I'm part of it. So are you. Yep. Yep. Noah generated. He's the second father of Adam's race, and he generated a race of men, and it's still going. That's the word generation. It's about what is generated, and the word Gentile is simply that word. It doesn't really have that strong connection to the way it's used. What does goy mean then? Goyim.
It means nation. That's what it means. A people that have a common, a commonness of what they believe is worthy of cultivation, culture, a commonness of what they believe is worthy of cultivation. We call that culture. I just said, we're teaching a class on Christian nationhood. We want you to join, the class and we're putting it in the can. You can watch it, but Christian nationhood, and we're making the point in all of this, and we talk about what is a Christian nation, we're talking about, what Van Till Van Till said. Cornelius Van Till grew up on a dairy farm in a Dutch reformed community in Northern Indiana, became the foremost proponent of the reformed of reformed Christianity in the world, passed away during my lifetime. I remember him. Cornelius Van Till, he taught at, at Princeton Theological Seminary all of, most of his life, other places too.
But Cornelius Van Till said that among all nations, all men, all tribes, all tongues, all people at all in all ages, culture is religion externalized. Culture is really good. That's good. That's very good. If culture is religion externalized, then, no matter how culture can be a very ugly thing, we're talking about the tribalism of Americanism, the brutalism of the Comanche, the brutalism of the Mohawk, the cannibalism of the, of the Shawnee, that's their culture. And it's brutal, but that is a result. They outworking. That's another way you could say it.
Culture is an outworking, the outworking of religion and every man and every nation has religion, whether they understand it or not. You've got an ultimate understanding of the fundamental issues of human existence. Your religion to put it more particularly, whoever you are, your religion is your response to your final arbiter of right and wrong. Your God, your law giver, your religion, the comparative lawyers put it this way. Your religion is your, your response to your law giver. That's true of Christianity. And it's true of all the demonic religions, which is everything else. For example, Jesus Christ put it this way. He said, well, the Bible puts it this way.
We love him because he first loved us. You see as creatures, we respond to our creator. He does not respond to us. We respond to him primarily. And our response to him is called religion religare, a binding back. He commits himself to us. He died for us in false religions. You die for your law giver. Like the Islamic people are doing now, like the Japs did that Iwo Jima, a hundred thousand of them approximately jumped off the cliffs and committed suicide. Harry Carey, they do that too. Yeah. But you die in in in Germany as as much as we had in common with them, they committed a horrible error.
Their soldiers and their sailors swore an oath to Hitler and they died for him. Right? Listen, if you're going to do that, you're going to be, God's going to judge you. I don't care how Christian you may look on the outside and how Christian you may even be. It won't work. It's a law of nature. You don't do that. You do not commit yourself to mere mortals. You commit your self to your God, and the way to do that is commit yourself to his law. Our constitution of The United States is a brief of common law government. To take an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States is to take an oath to support and defend what God has ordained the way things are, and they ain't gonna change. Now I find the mistakes in our constitution. I think I can say it better. I think there's some things that are off.
Why? Because that's the laws of nature. That's our observation of the way things are. And the test, the test between those two volumes, the laws of nature, the way things are that we observe in nature and the laws of nature's God, the Bible, The final test is the Bible. It's the final court of last resort. God has worked this out in deft detail. And because we do not know our Bibles, we struggle. What does the what did that that Spaniard say? I quote him a lot. When the people find themselves in a crisis, they instinctively turn their eyes toward their origins and look there for a sign. And we're doing that right now. What's our origins? Our Puritan forebears, our Scotch Irish Presbyterian forebears, our Dutch and German reform forebears. They're the ones that set the religious tone for America, and they're the ones we're looking back to. And I see there's a re a a rejuvenation of those ideas. The laws of nature, our common law tradition, and the laws of nature's God, the Bible. Our common law tradition does not arise out of the Bible, however.
Our common law tradition arises out of God himself who created this order we live in and the laws that he created that are still functioning. He is also the source of the law written the final court of last resort, but religion going back to that is, what every man has and, religion is externalized. And the what happened a long time ago in 1910, a man named Charles Beard, a Quaker, a Quaker, Quakers, oh, I won't say they aren't Christian, but they have a serious flaw in their understanding of the fundamental nature of man. It is not what our forebears had. They deny the depravity of the human soul. They deny the imperfection.
They believe the man has a spark of goodness in him. That if you light it, he'll become a great man. He'll become a good man. He won't be a criminal. Well, that that's God's business. We can't light that. They believe that. And I have, Quaker friends still. I love them to death. They're wonderful people. They have an attitude towards others to to be kind to people, to their neighbor. I understand all that, but you deny when you you use that as your foundation, the depravity of man and the desperation of humanity.
Our forebears understood that. They said, no. No. Without the new birth, you don't stand a dog's chance in hell without the new birth. That's what God does. I didn't birth myself the first time when I was born of my parents. No, my father birthed me. He's the one that did that. He's the one that did whatever he had to do to seduce my mother. And there's a law of nature there too. And the Bible talks about how that works. You've men, you can't seduce a woman unless you follow her law a little bit. The law of the woman, we call it. Those are laws of nature. You gotta be kind to them. You gotta show them you love them before they'll ever give in to you. I watched this on the farm among animals. Yep. If it's gonna be among animals, don't tell me God hasn't made us that way and more, and he has. And it's even more so among us, and we observe those laws. And because your father observed those laws of nature, you're here. And because I observe those laws of nature to some degree, I got I got some children, but I'm just making the point those laws of nature are important to us. We live by them, and we die if we don't observe them, and we will go out of existence. Well, our forebears understood that. Roger, do is you got something to say? I don't wanna Well, not no. I'm just sitting here hanging on every word you're saying, but I I I wanna see if Larry got his questions answered today. And then there's one other guys in line. We try and Hey. I got I got to finish this about Charles Beard. Charles Beard wrote a book. Charles Beard wrote a book in 1910, a Quaker. He was a professor at at per what it is well, right near Purdue at a place still there called Wabash College. It's on the Wabash River near Lafayette, Indiana.
Very old and prestigious school. He was professor there. He wrote a book about the Supreme court and he argued in that book that the Supreme court is final. He argued the Supreme court is final. And ever since the Supreme court has quoted that book saying they're final. Other people have said they're final, but they aren't, they are not. Now, listen, here's another point. I want to be a little more persnickety about how final, what that means. The Supreme court is final, pretty much among the courts in America, the Supreme court. When they rule on a constitutional question, the, the, the, the separation of powers demands that the courts in America, state and federal are bound by that decision. Right. Our common law tradition that our that's our common law tradition, separation of powers, independence of the judiciary.
They're bound. Oh, yeah. I go into court. I argue what the supreme if the supreme court has ruled on a matter, if it helps my client, I argue that. But that does not mean that the executive branch and the legislative branch are bound by it in the same way they aren't. So all these little things come in, but just keep this in mind. I learned this in high school. They prepared us for the constitution test. It was a state law. We had to pass the constitution test. I learned more about the constitution my last year in high school than I learned in law school.
I'm glad for it, but I learned there are separation of powers and neither one of the branches has any authority to Trump the other two branches. If they believe that they are following the constitution, remember those that the oath to support and defend the constitution that our office holders state and federal have, because the constitution requires, it does not create any duty in anybody. No, no, no. An oath never does create a duty. You get on the witness stand, you take a note to support and defend the constitution. You already had a duty to tell the truth or to support no on the witness stand to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
You always have a duty to tell the truth, my friends and withhold and, and be silent if you think other people don't have right to it, but it doesn't, it doesn't give you a duty when you take an oath. It strengthens the duty you already have. It is intended to enliven your sensibility to the duty. Well, that's what the oath is supposed to do. That's why we have it at common law and the, and that common law, an oath to anybody, but God alone, the creator of heaven and earth is paganism. Affirming is that which the Quakers demand, for example. No, that's paganism. If you're going to affirm, you're swearing, who you're swearing by yourself to affirm that you'll tell the truth, it's a swear by yourself. The Bible clearly forbids that. That is false worship. And as a Westminster confession said, that was during the English civil war, They got together and they made a good point. They said an oath is a, is a, is a, act is an act of religious worship.
They're right. Any oath. When the Goliath confronted David, the giant, it says that he swore by his gods, what he would do to David by his gods. Oh, yeah. Some serious demon gods he swore by. That's an act of religious worship and he, his religion, he was in a religion that was destructive. Of course he ended up dying. What a story, what a story of warfare, David and his sling and, something that soldiers ought to pay more attention to. My brother wrote an article in the officer's publication, armed forces officer's publication, breaking down the evaluating the combat between David and Goliath and what we can learn from it. I need to get a copy of that and post it. I hope I can get him to send to me, post it on the website.
That's God talking. That's his narrative. That's him teaching us about warfare and how it works. How does it work? Well, you gotta knock the enemy out first before you kill him. That's what David did. But, that's what Trump is doing. It looks to me like whether he understands it or not, he's got he's got Europe knocked down, Roger. They they're knocked down. And if he wants to annihilate them at this point, I heard a guy speak from South Africa Legislator, and he was telling, I was standing in front of their legislative body or something. Of course, most of them are men and women of color. And he said, listen, we're in a new world. Now there's a new sheriff in town. Yep. We're dependent and you aren't recognizing it and you're going to go down.
God is that God orchestrates all of this, whether men understand it. And I don't know that they all do, but God is sovereign and he orchestrates every bit of it, whether people worship him or not. Even the devil himself, as Martin Luther said, once the devil himself, he may be the devil, but he's God's devil. Don't ever forget. He doesn't get to do anything, but God doesn't allow him. And why does God allow him? I know why he allows him. He allows him to glorify himself. I know that much. I don't know everything, but that much I know. Everything that happened glorifies him, and he will get he says of pharaoh, I will get me honor on the back. That's the the Hebrew the Hebrew is literally it says, I will get me honor on the back of Pharaoh. But this Charles Beard wrote this book, this Quaker that said that, and he was very persuasive, and people have come to believe it. That's how that happened. And he, by the way, was a communist socialist. Go ahead, Roger. Well, if they're not the, end all on the decision, who else is?
[01:24:41] Unknown:
If what now? On the Supreme Court. If they're not the end all superior decision,
[01:24:47] Unknown:
where else would you take a Supreme Court case that The final court of last resort in our common law tradition and in America Yes, sir. Is the the the law giver down here on earth down here on earth, ordained of God is the 12 man jury. That's our common law tradition. Okay. That's why the evil empire works so hard to make sure these decisions stay with the court and stay without or or made without the jury. But that's what God intends. I'm I'm saying without our common law tradition, we can't have a Christian nation. We do have a Christian nation, whether people are Christian or not. That's what we got. That's what we have deemed worthy of cultivation. That is our culture. That is our religion externalized, worked out. This fella had one more question. I wanna Well, no. I think we got Larry. There was somebody else, and then Paul has joined us. And I I he's taken his time to be with us, and I don't wanna stop him,
[01:25:39] Unknown:
from injecting something. Yes, Larry?
[01:25:43] Unknown:
Yeah. So just to just to follow-up, is it safe to conclude that country is associated with land and nation is associated with the people because Brent was talking about how he used the word generation and so the nations were generated out of the loins of the patriarchs And so I'm thinking country is associated with the land because the Lord said to Abram to get out of thy country and away from thy kindred. So the kindred would be the nation and the country would be the land. So the Lord said to Abraham, in other words, get out of your country and get away from your nation.
[01:26:26] Unknown:
Would is that safe to conclude? Yeah. Yeah. I applaud you just bringing this up because you're getting right down to the bottom and you're you're these are the controlling questions. The word country and the and the most of the translations, King James, let's just talk about that. Beautiful translation, but it's not accurate at every point. No, no. It wasn't intended to be, by the way. It was intended to be beautiful, and that would make it memorable. And that way, the King James would overcome the King James Bible would overcome the influence of the Geneva Bible. That's why it was done the way it was done. The most beautiful piece of of, English literature ever created. And the only piece of classic English, English litter literature created by a committee, but accuracy was not its goal. And so when you see the word country, you see the word country.
Sometimes it should be translated land. I make the distinction because the word utterance in Hebrew is land. The word for country is a different word. Adama, God made man out of, Adama, like, which is clay of a red hue. And, and he called him Adam. He made it out of a man out of Adam, called him Adam. We are taken from the land. My friends, the, the, the, the, the, and the is, should always be translated land. It's often translated earth. The King James Bible will translate it earth land country. I like to keep it clear. The different words mean different things. Even if they're synonyms, they stress a different point. For example, the Bible says Genesis one, one, Bara sheath Bara Elohim Eth Hashemaim.
Now watch this. Eth Land. In the beginning, God created the skies, plural, 'shemayim, and the land. Singular. 'aretz. But the King James translates earth. Nothing really wrong with that. But when I think of earth, I think of, I think of this terrestrial sphere. Well, that's not what that means. It just means land and that the way they understood it and the way we understood it, I look out here, it looks pretty flat to me. I don't know. I mean, it's got rolling Hills and stuff, but that's the way they would say it. Land is land. Adama is off, should be translate, could be translated country, but the English word country has the connotation of culture in it too. See, there's a mix in there. So what, what is the goal of the translator?
Well, the goal of this translator is to make clear those distinctions. That's not easy to do. It takes a lot of knowledge of English. The problem with translators of the Bible is they know Greek, they know Hebrew, they know Aramaic, and maybe another 15 Semitic tongues, which are cognates of Hebrew. But what they don't know well is English. And that's my conclusion after over four decades of working, trying to translate, English is the thing we need to know. And us as Americans, as the English have said, the Americans haven't spoken English in years. We, we just throw words around like cord wood, and we don't care what they mean. Just so we think we get the idea out. Well, that's true. But when it comes to translation, those meanings of those words that God used in those tongues to put the Bible on paper, so so to speak, to put it in writing.
Those words are their meanings are fixed at this point. Those languages are not spoken anymore, and that's a good thing because we don't have to think they haven't morphed over the centuries. So we have to know those tongues and but we have to know English exceedingly well. And that means Anglo Saxon in my book and all the other Latin words that we bring in. And the King James did that a lot. They rested on the Latin a lot and a lot of Latin words in the King James Bible and the others too, but I wanna get rid of those. I want Latin words or long words. So you got country, you got nation.
Those are the two main ones. And remember our law of the land isn't called our common law is not called the law of the land for nothing. It's called the law of the land. In fact, the word, the phrase common law is relatively new in history. Before that, it was called the law of the land. That's why Magna Carta says law of the land, chapter 39. Law of the land, Latin in Latin lexterum. Well, that's what, that's what they called their common law at that time, but we still did that some, and that's why it's in article six of our constitution, the Supreme law of the land, not the Supreme law, but the Supreme common law, the Supreme process, the Supreme way, the due process, not the substantive law, not the outcome standards do not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. That's not what our constitution is. Our constitution is a brief of a slice of our common law of government.
It doesn't apply to you and me. It applies to those in government to limit them, not me. That's what our, but that's part of our common law tradition. So when you said, for example, this was good. You said Abraham came out of, you know, come out of your country and away from your kindred, kindred, that's an as Anglo Saxon word, a good one. It means your kin. And sometimes it's used to talk about your kith, your kith and kin. You've heard that phrase, kith a kin or your blood relatives. I talked about my first cousins and my uncles and my aunts. I was talking about my kinfolk. But when I talk about my kids, I talk about those people that may be closer than kinfolk.
Because I, well, like the Bible says, a friend can be closer than a brother in the book of Proverbs. Well, I found that to be true. My own brother, sometimes we're some terrible odds, but I've had friends that look after me. Well, that's Kith and Ken, and those are kind of meshed together in reality and God's law to form your culture, the people you're comfortable with. I have friends have said, Oh, I'd love to belong to a black church. I had a lady friend she's gone now. She was a charismatic Pentecostal type Holy roller Christian type person. I just love to go to black churches. And I said, well, I've I've been to a few of them. It's very entertaining, cause very much different, very, demonstrative, very emotional and it's refreshing. And I didn't mind it, but I don't want to go to church there every Sunday. Why? Oh, those aren't my kith and kin. I don't understand that culture. I it I I I wanna be respectful of other men and of other races, and I I wanna do that because God says to, and I I wanna do it at every point. Even if they're my enemies, I don't wanna torture them. You've heard me say, I don't wanna no. God doesn't allow that. He says respect. Even if you have to kill another man, you don't do it disrespectfully.
I know that sounds funny, but that's what the Bible demands. You show respect. And I'm not comfortable with other people's kith and kin like I'm comfortable with my own. Oh, I love it to get together with my own folk that I understand. And in our own country, we've had that common culture. I meet people from California. I grew up in the Midwest and they're from California and the Ohio Valley, I like to say. And and, we used to say eeny, meeny, miny, moe. And we had other things that we said that they're no longer acceptable when we use that. And I talked to people from California, and they say, yeah. We did the same thing. Why? Well, we share a common culture. I could go on and on. I've got a whole list on my desktop here of, of American slang and American phrases.
I'm surprised I've got two, three hundred of them that are unique to us as Americans that we have in common and make us feel we have, as we say, I was overseas a hundred years ago before the flood of Noah. And I was in the Far East and, went to J Pan for a short time and I was on a train and I'm looking over the sea of Oriental faces. It was just massive, just nothing but Oriental faces. And I saw a white face immediately. I felt a commonness with him. I found my way through the crowd. I said, where are you from? He told me he's from America. See, when you're away from America, you have what, people call a propinquity, a propinquity.
You have a commonness. Now when I'm in The States, if I see somebody that I think is an American, I don't have that propinquity. But one time I was at the airport in Oklahoma City. I was waiting to get on the plane, and the girl was looking at me, staring at me. And a woman at that point, I looked over at her, and she was staring at me. And I kept blancing at her. She kept staring. And I looked at her, and I fixed my eyes on her, and I kept staring. She stared, just stared at me. And finally, after a long time, just before I got on the airplane, she walked over and she said, Brent, I said, Trina, all of a sudden when I heard her voice, then it all, my childhood came back to me.
And I we had this reunion and we put our arms around each other. We remembered each other and we were I was in a in a a Walmart or some I think it was a oh, I don't know what it was. It was a grocery store in, Gallup, New Mexico or one of the no. It wasn't Gallup. It was Santa Rosa. One of those towns. I was in an aisle, and there was these, these, they were Navajo or Hopi, an old man and an old woman. I mean, walking with canes. They were and all of a sudden they, they came to the end. I was in the middle of the aisle and they were at both ends. I glanced to saw them and they looked at each other and they started walking as fast as they could walk with their canes toward each other. And when they got to each other, they dropped their canes and embraced.
And I could see the tears coming down. I don't know what it was, whether they were brother and sister or just childhood friends or what, but there's that propinquity when you see somebody among other people and the further you get from home, the more sensitive that propinquity comes to us. And I want to be with my kid and Ken just because I understand them and they understand me. And so I'm more comfortable there And that's the way God made us. That's why I say nationalism is what he ordains for a lot of other reasons in the Bible too. But nationalism is a good thing. Okay. We have this place called America and we have this nation in the Bible. We have the word Goim, which means nation. It doesn't mean Gentile. I want to drop a footnote about that briefly, if I may, Roger, because the word Gentile is misused to drive a wedge. Watch this to drive a wedge between people that are, that practice the Jewish religion and other people. That's what that's for. The Bible never uses it that way. As a matter of fact, in all those times, and you mentioned how many times it's used, you look at, if you trace through every use of that word, I've done that. I've traced every use of that word in the Bible.
And I find plenty of places where it's used to speak of everyone, including Israel, everyone. So it's a word that goyim means all nations, but sometimes in some context, it'll say these nations and this nation it's used in all combinations, but to take it and say that people that don't follow the Jewish religion are goingyim and those that do follow the Jewish religion or, are not going is false. It is the, it is the tendency of all people to think that they're the master race. Oh yeah, no question. That's a pandemic always has been among mankind. The Sioux Indian, the Sioux Indian tribe, the word Sioux means human being.
See in their minds, they were the only, that's the only way you could translate it. They're the ones that thought all the other Indian tribes are animals. See, but we're the we're, we're above all others. See, we're greater than them. And, people that are, well, all races do that. The, the master race we're better. And the reason we do that is because we don't know anything else often. And we think, well, the way we're doing it is right. And our culture is best. And well, it may be, you don't think it is. If it's Christian culture. Yeah. It's best. There's no question about it.
We're talking about that, those kinds of things in our Christian nationhood class. But what I've discovered in the Bible is I'll give you my, just my testimony. What seems to be right. If you look close, what you think is right, we'll find out that God's law, God's will, the will of the sovereign is just a little bit different. It may not be wholly different than what you think is right naturally, but it's going to be a little different and we need that badly. We need the balance of God's will, God's law. What is the relationship between man and woman? What are the roles? What is the dignity of, of our roles and our different spheres of jurisdiction? As, the old Dutchman said, what was his name? He was prime minister. He's the only only prime minister to ever address Congress before up until that time, nineteen o seven.
But he and he he said that Christianity, he's right. God, the kingdom of God is the, his dispensing, his delegation of separate, separate spheres of authority among nations and among men and among property owners and among families. And we are not, we're to respect those separate jurisdictions. We're to respect Germany. They're going down the tubes. You know, the Bible says you're not going to persuade a man that insists upon destroying himself from destroying himself. And that's the way God under hinder his laws allows his enemies to be destroyed. He just lets them go. Okay. That's what you want. I'll just give you your head. And now the tubes you're going to go. And if we interfere with that, he's going to put a hurting on us. Here's the southern
[01:40:21] Unknown:
Pardon? Here's the southern version of that. Give a monkey enough rope, and he'll hang himself every time.
[01:40:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. Slit their own throats with their own tongues. Go ahead. Somebody said something.
[01:40:35] Unknown:
Brent, this is the last thing, and I think there's another student a little while ago that was trying to ask a question. So the modern day the modern day word state, do you believe that that's a combination of country and nation? Roger teaches that we as nationals, we go by the definition in the statutes at large and The United States code and that is a national is a person who owes permanent allegiance to a small s state. So is our allegiance to the country and to the people in that country,
[01:41:12] Unknown:
is that what you would No. Say would be a good conclusion?
[01:41:16] Unknown:
No, no, no. Thanks again. That's, your questions are fundamental. I love them. No, our allegiance is to our land. L a n d right here. It is bounded by a, by a boundary. And God wants that boundary when God first dispensed, gave responsibility for land. The first time we have in history, when that happened is the Garden Of Eden, that word garden, the Hebrew word gam means walled, walled, a walled garden park. That's what that word means. And he had a, there was a boundary and he was responsible to keep anything that God didn't want in there in there. And if you found it in there, he was to get it out and he failed to do that. So what did God do? He said, I'll make that, like he says later, the Israelites, I will make the land vomit you out. He threw our grandma and grandpa, Adam and Eve out of that bounded land. God has given us a land. He has bounded it with a boundary. He expects us to maintain the integrity and keep things out we don't want in. That's why it's so you don't have a country.
These are principles of nationhood from the Bible. And if we don't follow them, we will lose our country. And that's what appears to be happening for whatever reason. Reason now we're trying to define our boundaries. And if we don't, we'll lose our country. Even at international law, which is a common law of nations, we call it. There are three requirements for nationhood. Number one, you must have a bounded territory. You must have a bounded territory of land that forms a closed as it were polygon, a closed figure in two dimensions.
That's the number one requirement. Number two requirement. You must have a people that's exist. Like you said, inhabit domicile is not a bad word. If you understand it, according to our common law, we can talk about that sometime, but they're in there and they call it home. What is home? Home is that place from once you have departed, you are a stranger till you return. That's home to them. So you have abounded land home. Third, this is the final requirement. There must be a law common to the people of that land of that land.
This is our common law tradition. This is the law of nations too. We recognize it that way. And that's the way God sets it forth for the nation Israel. When he gave them a land, he gave them a deed to the land. That's the book of Deuteronomy. He gives the precise boundaries according to the meets and bounds method, which we still use at common law. And no other words points, and you form on, on, on the, on the ground, a polygon, a figure that closes the boundary closes. That's our country. That's our States. That's our counties. That's our townships.
That's our water districts. That's our own land that we own our own homes, our own houses. When we have jurisdiction, I even say to people, if you live under a bridge, for whatever reason, God's allowing you to live under there. You keep God's order under that bridge and you take care of it and you here's what you don't do. Or he'll throw you off of it. You don't pollute it. He is the elodial landlord. He decides who occupies his land. And that's why we're here for whatever reason. We're not here because we're good people. We're here because the folk were here before us. God was displeased and they polluted the land. That's what the Bible says. And do you see that over and over and over with the prototype of all nations, which is Israel and the other nations around them too, but the prototype is Israel, a bounded land.
Back to you, Roger.
[01:45:05] Unknown:
There was another student, and I wanna say hello to Paul before the show ends. I guess he can hang around a little bit, hopefully. Good to see you, buddy. Who's the other student that had a question a few minutes ago? Hell hello. Hello? It's it's Chris. It's Chris from California.
[01:45:20] Unknown:
Hello. This is a very important it's a very important and pressing issue right now, and I need to address Brent about this. Now Brent, I've been attending your in church on Sundays. And, last Sunday, after in church, another program came on with a man that's kinda hard to listen to, but he interviewed a lady who lost her a lady and her son lost their house because it was stolen from them by people who used the legal process of trust deeds to set up a situation where they foreclosed on her house and got her evicted out of her house. And now she's living in her car and she doesn't know what to do. She's in Long Beach. I'm right next to Long Beach right now.
And, I would like to know how to get in touch with her because I've been very successful dealing with this type of situation on three occasions now, whereby doing a quiet title or whatever we had to do, we got the properties back.
[01:46:38] Unknown:
Okay? Well, I I listened to that too, and I know what you're talking about. And what I can do, if I can remember, you get in chat and remind me if you're there next Sunday, and I will tell the host of that program, that's Michael, and say, listen. This guy wants to get in touch with this lady. And, and then he can tell us how to get in touch with him or her, maybe. Is that a good idea?
[01:47:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He said he was gonna have her on again. That would be great. I haven't been on chat. I want to learn how to do that. But, yeah, it's, yeah, we would in her situation, I would recommend immediately doing a quiet title action and then trying to get the authorities to come in with a criminal action. But first, you've gotta get your evidence together and search for the record and so forth, find out what's happened in court and what's, you know, what the status of the property is. But, but three times now, I've successfully gotten the property back one way or another.
[01:47:43] Unknown:
And I've heard other people have done. That's a scam that's going around the whole country.
[01:47:48] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. It is. And it could be broken up. It can be broken
[01:47:53] Unknown:
up. Yeah. Yeah. But Jesus Christ said you he said this to the Phariseites. You devour houses of husbandless women. That's by the letters, what it says.
[01:48:06] Unknown:
And it's exchanged.
[01:48:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. In that case, nothing's changed. I've seen it over and over what Jesus Christ said. His words are as fresh as the morning they're applicable right now. Things have not, this is not ancient history. Men and their depravity have not changed. Thanks for bringing that up.
[01:48:28] Unknown:
Yep. Now, Paul Thank you. Are you still are you still there, Paul? I think you are. I see that Yorkshire rose up there. Well, I don't wanna ignore our visitors, especially when they take time out of their schedules like Paul leads. So alright, buddy. Well, if you're walking away or whatever when you get back and, we hopefully wanna speak with you, it means we'll probably be hanging around after the show's over today. Anybody else have any questions for, for Brent? There's Joan. You yes, Joan?
[01:49:02] Unknown:
So, Brent, did you say that state is the same as your country?
[01:49:10] Unknown:
The state Well, you're doing a claim? Yeah. Yeah. You're doing a good job of following up and making sure I do what I'm supposed to do, and I appreciate that. No. I didn't get to that. So let me let me say a little bit about it. State. I wanna recommend you oh, if I could think I think of things that I've read in books. No. Here's his name. His name is Albert Nock, n o c k, n as in November, o as in Oscar, c as in Charlie, k as in kilo. Albert Nock. I believe he was an Episcopalian clergyman. I don't remember, but he was, he was active back during the Franklin Roosevelt administration before world war two. And he became incensed upon, overall of the unconstitutional things that FDR was doing. And one of the things that bothered him was that, Roosevelt was forming corporations. The constitution of The United States does not give the general government in Washington DC authority to form corporations.
Like, water districts and TVA and Tennessee Valley Authority at home. We had the Wabash Valley Authority, which is still active. And, but that was just a little bit of it. Then he goes into, he wrote a piece called the state, the state, and in that he very, very, good communicator. He makes, makes the point that the state is not the country and he distinguishes the state. Now I, I know that people don't always see it this way, but I think what he said needed to be said the way he said it, what he said was this, for example, Hegel was a German philosopher, terrible man, terrible man. And what he said, he said that of course, Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was a German philosopher. Somebody wants to read a book or wrote a book, seven men that rule the world from the grave. And why is it that we that's why is it that we follow the ideas of dead German philosophers? You know, but we do and they're wrong, you know, Hegel, I believe he's the one that said the state is God walking on earth and knock catalogs all the men in his, in recent history that have said those kinds of things in different ways. See, the church of Rome says the same thing. The state, the Vatican America has recognized Vatican as a state. And the Roman official Roman doctrine is the state, the Vatican, the Roman church is God on earth.
The Pope stands in the place of Jesus Christ. That's false. That's the very definition of antichrist, by the way. Men that say fundamentally, they stand in the place of Jesus Christ. And then you have, expansions of that where people say I'm I'm just God on earth. And that's what Hitler said. The oath was to him, and he had the power of life and death over everybody. He was government by a single will. The code of Bismarck that he ruled under was put in place about 1900. That was the the Roman Empire code of Justinian, the same thing as the canon civil laws of the church of Rome. And he had a lot of good ideas. I'm not faulting that part of it. But once you have that kind of a government in place, the useful idiots of the evil empire will take over, and they will destroy you. And that's what happens when see, if you have one government with a single will, that makes sense to us. We're logical. But what if you got three branches of government and nobody has the right to tell the other one what to do in the final analysis?
That didn't make sense to us. But that's the way God says he wants men to govern. The common law tradition is his government, my friends. He gave it to those people that put it together and got it down to a fine point in in England and in Scotland. And then the thing came to America, and we tried to during the English civil war, the people that came to New England wanted to form that government here and rule England from New England. They didn't wanna come here to get away from it. No. They just saw that things are so bad in England. We're not gonna be able to rule England.
[01:53:32] Unknown:
Well, you know, it's funny thing, Brent. We may be able to straighten them out now. Well well, isn't it something, though, that they the you know, our forebears
[01:53:42] Unknown:
are Christian men. They had flaws. I mean, I've read the Puritans and their writings. They had some ideas that and different ones of them were off, and they had, again, wound up and bound up in their own whims and difficulties, but they were right headed. I like to draw a distinction between being right headed and being righteous. We've come to believe that the word righteous means perfect. It doesn't. You know, William Tyndale invented that word when he translated the Bible into English for the first time, and he's the where the from from the original tongues for the first time, William Tyndale. And he saw that word, that Hebrew word Sadiq. And he said, well, I see what that word means. It means, in English, right wise, right wise.
But he said, that's too cumbersome to, I'd have to say in some context to make it flow, right wise ness, right wise ness. Well, what does that mean? That means you're headed in the right direction. If you're going clockwise, that's, that wise on the end is a suffix that indicates the direction you're going clockwise or counterclockwise, or I've said to a judge before, well, I wanna make sure this sound this is sound law wise. In other words, I wanna make sure we're heading headed in the right direction here, according to the law. Well, that word wise means to be headed in the right direction. But he said I gotta get rid of that because it's too cumbersome. Instead of saying right wiseness, I'm gonna invent a word. And he did. He put it in the Bible. Eight, 80 to 90% of the King James Bible is William Tyndale, by the way. Those translators didn't do that much work. They didn't really translate it all. They checked it with the original tongues, but they followed Tyndale. And every translation we've had ever since, ever since in English has been Tyndale to a great degree because everything since King James has been a revision of any popular note has been a revision of the King James right up until 1971, until the new American standard Bible came out. You see the English people, the government of England said, we've got to revise the King James, but they didn't do it until 1881.
That's what six hundred years. Let's see. No, not six hundred years. Yeah. Six hundred years before they even see see, that's in a government project. You gotta remember the King James. And so the Church of England being part of the government, they finally said we need to revise it. They did it in 1881. The Americans were involved in that, but they had to sign a covenant that they wouldn't publish an American version for, I think it was fourteen years or something. I forget. But as soon well, no. It'd been twenty years. Because as soon as that was up, they had that American version ready of a revision of the King James, and that became the American standard version of nineteen o one, which never got any traction. And there were other versions they tried to get traction. The new American Standard Version got traction in 1971, but it wasn't based upon the King James. They went straight to the original tongues and stuck with that all the way through. That's why it's called new American Standard Version to distinguish it from the one that was based on the King James.
But they,
[01:56:42] Unknown:
now I've talked about I like Bible translation, and I'd like to talk about it. And then I forget what what we were talking about, Roger. Well, we're we're talking about you giving all your credentials here because we got about two minutes left in the program. Oh, okay. Folks that are impressed with everything they heard and don't know
[01:56:59] Unknown:
can find you. Thank you. I won't do that, Roger. But before I do, real quick, will you tell me what the question was? I don't I don't wanna get off of it. I wanna remember it for next time. Oh, Joan and her, comparison. Oh, yeah. Joan. Hey. Albert. Just go to Albert Moore. So so so you're saying
[01:57:16] Unknown:
that, country and land generations, its people and the state is God.
[01:57:23] Unknown:
Well, the state, the state, the state. Yeah. I would say that ought to be viewed as God walking on earth, but that's wrong. That's paganism. That ain't right. So, but that's what governments want you to think. The state, you know, which really is just a Latin word means the status quo, the staticness of it. It doesn't change. And that's what they want. The Democrats have been in power. They are the status quo. They are the state. They don't wanna change. They wanna retain the power. Let me get to my points here real quick. I wanna tell everybody out there, everybody out there that I appreciate you asking me questions because you tripped my trigger. I get to talk about the things that I like, and I'm humbled all the pieces. I just pray that I say things that are proper and right and that that whatever I say is taken properly, and it will go to the rejuvenation and give us our country back and give back. And like, Paul says over there in the old country, Yorkshire, he wants his country back. John Knox said in Scotland, just give me my country back. That was his cry during the reformation.
And we should be saying that to our God, my friends pray that our God, he's the landlord as the loyalty to his land and taking care of his land that he wants. He will give us our country back. If we will, here's the, here's what we gotta do. Men, men, I'm not talking to women. If my people are called by my name, there's that word people that's in Chronicles in the Bible. My people who are called by my name, who's that? That's the militia. If they will fall in their faces, if they will worship me, not the women, the men, all the women, they need to worship God too. I get it. But that's not the problem. We're the problem, men. We're not worshiping our God. We have given up our territory. We have given up our roles. We have retreated from the field. And God said, I'm not gonna give you that option, Adam.
You don't have that option. This is Brent Allen Winters common lawyer dot com. W w w dot common lawyer dot com. Go to the website. Get the Bible translation, the winterized version. You could get it in digital or hard copy. The comparative law text, excellence of the common law. You can take the law classes at Winter's Inn. We're teaching one now on all variety of subjects. You can see it there on the website, commonlawyer.com.
[01:59:36] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger, also, of course. Well, Brent, it's always a pleasure to have you. I know the audience loves you, and we need these spiritual foundations shored up and defined at times so the miners and sappers from the other side don't get under there. And, Brent will, be over through you can contact his shows through, his website commonlawyer.com, and we'll be back tomorrow on the Saturday edition. So, we'll see you there or he'll see you over there or whatever. We'll see you soon in either regard. Brent, we'll probably have a little discussion here, I would think, because Paul's still with us and wanna at least say hello to him. Took the trouble to come over here and hang with us.
So, anyway, we'll see you soon. I hope you got something out of it, and, we keep putting one step in front of the other and see where the path goes.
[02:00:30] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. Thank you, Paul. Both Pauls. Appreciate you.
[02:00:34] Unknown:
Yep. Thank you, Francine. Good to see you, sweetie. And, I'd have you play us a song, but we're right at the end of our program. So Nice to see you, Roger. You may do that next week. I think we're done. So, Paul Beaner can whip us off of the Eurofolk, and we can continue on the other stream. Still being recorded. Paul, have we raised you yet? Are you back around the mute button? Doesn't seem to be. Roger? Okay. Yes. There's Larry again. Yes, sir?
[02:01:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So, Brent, you're saying that, state is the land. And so when the statutes at large say that a national is a person owing permanent allegiance to a state and that state is not capitalized, that means we owe our allegiance to the land. Is that correct?
[02:01:32] Unknown:
Our allegiance is to the land. And the word state, it has varying definitions, and it it puts different kind of ideas in people's head when they hear that the sound of that word pop in their minds. And so it's you know, words mean what, how people use them often, and we wanna get back to the proper meaning. Roger uses the word, and he I don't he's not meaning it in the pagan way. When I, for example, I speak of states of The United States. And when I write about states of The United States, I say, okay. We call them states. I'm not gonna change that. And I always capitalize it so I know and make the distinction between the state in the evil sense and the capital word. You know, words are every word. I don't care what it is. It's context dependent. It can be used in an evil sense Yeah. To talk about evil things or bad things or mediocre things or good things.
One example we're talking about in Christian nationhood, Roger, I'll it won't take long with this one. I'll just spit it out. The word apostle and the word apostate are Greek words from the New Testament. They're both from the same root. Apostle, actually, in a positive sense, apostate. That's the man that commits the The other son, he lives. Logan. That's the man that Her mouth was.
[02:02:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Pardon me? They they Who's that coming from?
[02:02:48] Unknown:
Somebody there's a conversation.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
To get
[02:02:51] Unknown:
can we get that muted out, please?
[02:02:55] Unknown:
Apostate apostate is the same say I just wanna say so many things. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They're
[02:03:01] Unknown:
having a side rather, having a side conversation. Paul, can you mute their conversation?
[02:03:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I hear this. I see. I see. Is everything perfect with these papers? No. No. They don't. But I created snow too. And I'd like to You gotta have Paul police it to find them.
[02:03:17] Unknown:
There they are. No.
[02:03:20] Unknown:
Apostate
[02:03:21] Unknown:
and apostle are from this are the same root Greek word from the new Testament, but they mean one is positive. Apostle is a positive thing. That's God's people. Apostate is a man that's committed the unforgivable sin. All words are that way. All prepositions, all nouns, all verbs, it depends upon their context and state. The word state is like that. It also depends upon how a word person is using it. I wish it wasn't that mushy, but it is Mhmm. Because people are not persnickety about the meanings of words, and they just throw them around like nothing. And pretty soon, we get confused. Go ahead, Roger.
[02:03:59] Unknown:
Karl Marx. A word is a skin of a thought.
[02:04:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He's right about that. And you can your people put all sorts of ideas in there in that skin. Well, you we I always looked at, like, we we communicate through concepts.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
The concepts are identified by words, and that's where they're getting us. They're just slipping an anti concept in there. Was that you, Larry, again?
[02:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. So, Brent, you're saying that, state when when the definition of state is the Lord walking on the land, that that's paganism. And, I did is that, is that true?
[02:04:36] Unknown:
No. No. Oh, well, the definition of a state is this is the definition of antichrist that some man or some combination of mere mortals or some, some idol, some statue or some icon stands in the place of God himself. That's the fundamental meaning of and that's what Rome says. That's what Hitler said. That's what Hegel said. The state is God, the true God walking on earth. But in other cultures, they would say the state is our God and the false, whatever that false God is walking on earth. In other words, for example, I've used this, the Rome right on there. They say, well, the Pope is the Vicar of Christ. Vicar. What does that mean? Most of the same word is Latin word is vice. It means in place of that's what the word anti means in Greek, in the Greek tongue. It means in place of instead of, well, I'm in place of Jesus Christ. I'm not here. I'm not against Jesus Christ. People say the charismatic TV preacher who rules his church by a single will. I'm, I'm not here. And, I'm not against Jesus Christ, but he has given me all authority here. So my word is final. That's antichrist.
And the Bible says there are many antichrist among you. It's first John, by the way, John's the only man that uses that word, Antichristos, and he defines it very well. And I talked, told the story about John Knox, his first sermon at St. Andrew's Castle in Scotland. And he was taken prisoner there after that sermon, but he preached on the definition, the biblical definition, how the Bible uses the word Antichristos in the new Testament. And what I just said to you is the same thing he said. And anybody that studies the Greek tongue knows anti means instead of primarily well is, are those people that say that they're here in place of Christ and they want to help Jesus Christ.
Are they against him? You bet they are. Jesus Christ doesn't give that jurisdiction up to anybody. They may not know they're against him. They may know they're against him either way. It doesn't make any difference. Jesus Christ said there's only one mediator you got to go through to get to God And that's him and anybody else, any Saint, any, Pope, any patriarch, any clergyman, any college professor, any government, any sub, any court that's inserts itself between you, you and the vault of heaven is an antichrist is antichrist and God won't tolerate it.
Don't put anything between you and God except Jesus Christ. And the, but the fascinating thing about this all is Jesus Christ is God. He's a member of the Godhead. He's also fully man. He is the, he is the only man in all of the creation where God and man meet, and therefore that's where man, that's the only place and the only person where man can meet God, Jesus, the Christ. That's what the Bible teaches in unmitigated terms. Yeah. Go ahead.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Go ahead. Yeah. So, I looked up the word state in in the King James Bible, and it's used 15 times. And only one time is it used diff different as far as I could see. The other 14 times it's usually referring to a man's countenance and then I found one time because and the reason I'm bringing this up is because when you said before that state I guess when it's being used in an evil manner like antagonism, you said state is referring to God walking on the land. I'm wondering if they get that from two Chronicles 2four 13 because this is the only time that state is not used to refer to a man's countenance and that verse says, so the workmen wrought and the work was perfected by them and they set the house of God in his state and strengthened it.
What are your thoughts on that?
[02:08:41] Unknown:
Well, the the pronoun there would probably be properly translated, not his state, but its state, but they've translated it in the masculine because it's a masculine pronoun. But the word state, for example, the Bible says, the S the, the latter state was worse than the first state. Now I'm not trans or, quoting exactly, but the word state means status. It's a Latin word. It means the way things are. It can be used in that sense. And that's the sense I take it there. But I would suggest to you, I can see your head is deep in the Bible. And, if you get the winterized version, I address a lot of these things, but you've just made a point to me that I need to put a appendix in my Bible in, the winterized version. I've got about 200 now. I need one, on the state to, to talk about that word. See, these are, these are English words, Latin words. That's not what God said exactly. How do we get the point across about what God said and how he uses these concepts?
And the winterized version is focused on that alone. I'm not, I didn't translate the Bible for other people. I didn't translate the Bible for white acceptance. I didn't translate the Bible to make money. I translated the Bible for me to teach from. And if you want, if people want access to it, they can get it. And, I'm the only Bible translator in the English that I know of that has done that. I didn't do it to sell it. Know, even the best of translations are done for, for, to make sales and make money or done for political reasons like the King James or the Geneva Bible was done for an important reason. That's the one that the King James is competing with. All these translations for political and money reasons compete, and they compete hard.
They want them and they want it to be readable. If it's not readable, I'd just say my Bible or trans my translation is not all that smooth. It's not smooth English at every point because I try to be utterly literal. I try to use for every Hebrew root, I try to use the same English root. For every Greek root word, I always try to always translate it with the same in the English root. Now sometimes it's almost impossible and I'll hyphenate a word because it doesn't make any sense at all. I know what it means. A good translation ought to be, you ought to be able to look at a good translation and back translate it into the original tongue if it's a good translation. And that's my goal with my Bible so that when I'm teaching, I look at when I teach on Sundays on Patriot or what are we doing? We're on the platform. We'll go to the website, commonlawyer.com and you can see how to join us on Sundays and Saturdays. When I teach through books of the Bible, When I teach, I've got that in front of me. And when I look at those, the English translation, I know what the original tongues say because I'm the guy that did it. And I try to be consistent with all my words. And if there's, there's 35,000 footnotes and if there's a difficulty, I'll put it in the footnote and explain why it translated the way it did and what the word means, the English or the Greek or Hebrew word. So I you're obviously into the Bible.
I want you to have that Bible, and you can get it in digital form. You can do word searches that way, and you can get it in hard copy. It's in five volumes now because of all the appendices and footnotes. But in the footnotes, about 35,000 of them, I cite the King James language in the footnotes. And the reason I do that, King James, because it's most familiar with people that are really interested in the Bible. That's the, it's the Bible I'm familiar with because I grew up with it. And really when I was growing up, we didn't know there was much anything else. And so when I think of a Bible verse, I I think of the language of the King James. It's all there. And I put it in there so people can do word searches if they are used to the well, I know when I was a kid, I learned in the King James. I remember this word, and you can do a word search in the digital form and find it in the footnotes often. And then you can learn something about that word because I have footnotes about the Greek and Hebrew words.
Well, I appreciate it all. Did I did I answer your question?
[02:12:53] Unknown:
Yeah. I just, in a closing comment, I just wanna say that, I agree that the, King James Bible has been monkeyed with. It seems like the, the translators had an agenda. And like for example, I was listening to a preacher one time and he was talking about the verse that says that the steps of a good man are ordered from the Lord and he was saying that that word good was inserted in the King James translation that that's not found in the original manuscript and even if it was, it would contradict Romans because the Bible says there is none righteous, there is none good And so it appears that the King James translators had an agenda with monk you know, they were monkeying around with certain verses.
[02:13:44] Unknown:
Oh, no question. You're right on the money. That's true about that. And that it does contradict Romans comes back to the basic nature of nature of man. Jesus Christ said, wait a minute. They said, good teacher. The Pharisees said, good teacher. And he said, yeah. Woah. Right there. Pull up your horses. There is none good but God. Who what are you saying? I'm a good guy? Are you admitting that I am God? This is a fascinating when you get, but yeah, there were about 200 words that, King James ordered his translators to keep. And if his translating team are about 54 of them, if they did not swear to support the law of the city doctrine, divine right of Kings, they couldn't be on his translation team. And there were some, eight capable, able translators that were offended beyond defense, that they weren't able to be on the translation team because they because they were, they wanted to follow the common law tradition, which is the biblical tradition, and not not believe in divine right of kings. And the reason that translation happened, it's a government project. Number one, if there's a government project, it's going to promote power of government period.
Let's understand this. And King James, demanded the divine right of Kings. What does that mean? Well, he's the one that invented the words deep state in the English, in the English tongue. We don't see the words deep state until King James and King James said, nobody has any business probing into and finding out what the deep state is really doing. Well, that's, that's where it originated. He was the deep state government, he said, is in the law is in his breast. He's the one that said, a cook. They call him in England. I call him Coke, sir. Edward Coke. He said the King, he pronounced, he thought he was being a nice guy. He said the King protecteth the common law.
And before Coke thought about what he was about to say, he ejaculated and said, nay, sire, the common law protecteth the king. And then all of a sudden the room got silent and sir, Edward Coke fell on his face because he knew his head was in danger. And, but, but he did say it. He made the point that the law protects us all. What's the law, the will of God. That means God protects us all. We are a government. We say in America, we are a government of laws and not men. Well, what does that mean?
[02:16:12] Unknown:
This The best way to warm up your toes. Government is God's business.
[02:16:16] Unknown:
Somebody came on there and said something. Yeah. I think it was,
[02:16:21] Unknown:
just go ahead. I think it was Paul. I mean, I way to warm up your toes? The best way to warm up your toes? It's Paul's icons up there, so I think it's coming from him. But go ahead. Only thing only thing we've heard from Paul is a woman's voice twice today. I have a Roger,
[02:16:43] Unknown:
I have a filing to make, and I gotta go. I gotta meet you. Okay. I can't tell you. California.
[02:16:50] Unknown:
It's Chris from California. Before you go, I just wanna say one thing, Brett, and that is, if we don't get in touch with Michael some kind of way, Roger has my email, and he could contact me that way.
[02:17:03] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. He will. Okay. Okay. I'll I'll try to remember that. Thank you. We'll see if we can help this poor woman out. Yeah. Thank you. Remember, the Jews were hated in Russia for stealing people's houses. Got another female?
[02:17:17] Unknown:
That was me, Roger. I don't know the name, but all he has to do is get into Discord. It's easy to sign up for a Discord account, and then you can talk to Michael directly. He watches the chat every Sunday morning, and just get into Discord and post what you need to post. Very simple.
[02:17:34] Unknown:
Okay. Discord, Francine. Discord dot com. Discord dot com, Chris. I got it. That's the feed that Mike watches during his show. He he's got it. And Michael watches that chat, so should say a shout out to him. Okay. Good. Now, Paul, did you have something to say? Brent, you gotta go and do, hit some timelines, so jet out of here. Okay? Thank you, Paul. Okay, buddy. Enjoyed it. Thanks as always. Thank you, Roger. Appreciate it. Do do y'all realize how lucky we are to have this guy on with us once a week? Do you understand what a national treasure Brent Winters is? I don't know of anybody that could compete with Brent on these levels and these languages and these interpretations, and it's just, I'm we're all blessed. Okay? Just to say that to you. Paul, are you still there? Did you take off or what?
Well, he can't he's listening probably. Well, anybody else got you? There, Roger.
[02:18:40] Unknown:
I see what you did there, Roger. National treasure. I get it.
[02:18:45] Unknown:
I mean, he is, man. I I don't know any other labels to stick on him. Yeah. So I get your treasure. Well, that too. Yeah. No. I get your double entendre. So, Chris, I'm glad to see you're watching, Brent on Sundays. And I've often said to the folks, if you don't have a church home, you might wanna drop in over there. The sermons are Brent telling stories and making, you know, points and emphasizing them. And, and and there towards the end of the show, he gets into his bible stuff. So, anyway, it's yeah. It's great. It's great on Sunday mornings. So, anybody else got anything for me? Everybody's dropping off and Yep. Yes. You do. Alright.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Yeah. The sketch, blessings, Roger. I have a statement and a question, afterwards, that is a different topic. Like, you mentioned the gold coming back to The US. Yes, sir. And I was wondering, you know, we have a lot of big companies with a lot of cash coming back in and a lot of rich people, transferring their dollars back to The United States. I'm wondering if you could see possibly that they are bringing the gold back to buy it up with dollars before it falls, before it all falls. I don't have any idea what all of this is about. I mean, I mean, you got some some suspicions.
[02:20:09] Unknown:
I I just I don't know. And I'm not able to keep up with the financial markets as much as I'd like. But I but Tom d is gracious enough to send me an Andy Schekman interview when they come out, and I still haven't had a chance to watch it. So, anyway, Shaikh, I don't know. I just know if you got any extra dollars, you ought to acquire some. I think it really benefits you.
[02:20:31] Unknown:
I agree. And I don't know who, another comment. I don't know who brought up, the cliff high, article of politicians puking, panicking, and puking, but it's a very good article. I sent it to you. It's short Okay. You did?
[02:20:48] Unknown:
Short, slow, but it's well worth it. Is it is it just an article, or is it a tape?
[02:20:54] Unknown:
It's a short article, of a sub stack.
[02:20:59] Unknown:
And Alright. I'll look at it. It's hard for me to read, but go ahead.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
Yeah. I I understand that. And also, would you say equivocation is the modus operandi of the state?
[02:21:16] Unknown:
I think it's the well, of the of the evil state, certainly enough. And I believe, as I said on Rents, I think it must have the idea must have come from Sabotage v. And the fact that these people are Sabotage and Frank as Zionists, and that's where it really pops out in history to me for the first time, and affects a a group of people. I mean, Sabotage v had a a a sizable following around the world. I don't know how much percentage wise. It wasn't half, but they were sizable nonetheless. And then when he died and and and Frank took over, he expanded that. There were more Jews around the world that were into the, sabotage me idea at that point. So that's pretty substantial. And, you know, you know, they're influential people, and I think they took that opposite thing and refined it and developed it. And, that's and uses the absolute foundation of everything they do, it seems like to me.
[02:22:16] Unknown:
Yep. Alright. Thank you so much. Blessings as of March.
[02:22:19] Unknown:
Yeah. It's such an in interesting, deal because they're committed to it now that we understand it. It's an Achilles' heel for them. Because anytime you want an answer to a question, all you do is look a 80 degrees in the opposite direction, and it's there every time because their whole game is to build everything in that manner. So it's a weakness that we've been able to perceive and maybe exploit for some folks as after they learn how to use it a bit.
[02:22:48] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:22:49] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. I have I have a else. This is Chris from California. Hey, Chris. Yeah, man. I have a comment. Yeah. For anybody who wants wants to start acquiring some gold, I would, I'm kind of, you know, associated with that situation. I think for less than the price of an ounce of gold, you can go and get yourself a pretty sophisticated metal detector and go out and have some fun at the abandoned gold mines and pick up some nuggets, which, by the way, nuggets sell for double spot.
[02:23:19] Unknown:
Yep. By the way, you know, Cliff High, speaking of him, years ago, his information showed people out looking for gold all over the country. Yep. That's pretty it'd be great weekend pastime. It's profitable. All that stuff. Good suggestion, Chris. I know the biggest nugget ever found was found with a metal detector. I forget how many kilos it is. I've seen pictures of it. It was it was huge. It's huge. K. So Everybody's California. Somewhere out there. Yeah. So, okay. Anybody else got anything for the Raj? I'm going to have the Friday hamburger for $4.25. You're jealous, aren't you? Okay. Well, I'll see y'all tomorrow.
And, have a a fabulous Friday, and just stay tuned. If that touches you, you've got and I don't know if any of our folks would have assets in Europe. But if you do, you might wanna go listen to that Mike Adams video. You'd probably be able to find it easily. So, we'll see you all tomorrow.
[02:24:28] Unknown:
Thanks very much, Roger. I had a question for the group. I was looking at something that came through from the Old Republic call. And I've only been on one call, but I opened a document that's had the statement. Says that we as Nationals can use the UCC. I didn't know the basis of their statement. It was a guy that was teaching called Ed let's see what his name is here. Welcome, everyone. My name is Edmund George. And so his statement here, I guess, it was it's really nice. It's a whole, old transcript, I guess, of the of his presentation.
I just highlighted I don't know if did anybody else download the topic was how you list your sovereignty by the use of the state birth certificate part two. And trying to find a place in there where it said the national should use the UC okay, example. Okay. Here it is. Sorry. Let's say you had to go can everybody hear me okay? Let's say you had to go to the hospital emergency room and you did not have any insurance, the hospital sends you the bill. So if they eventually you don't pay it and then it goes to a debt collector, a debt collector calls you, you ask them, did you buy that debt from the hospital? They will say, yes.
Will you say, thank you very much. I really needed that help at this time. Then you say, there's no privity of contract. The doctrine of privity of contract is a common law principle, which provides that a contract cannot confer rights or impose obligations upon any person who is not a party to the contract. And then thank you very much. And by the way, that was from Wikipedia. So thank you very much. Have a nice day. End of conversation. The US code was put in place for We The People, American nationals, to hold the government accountable in Title 50 US code. There is a way for you to access your Syspa KV trust to pay off debt.
However, you cannot do it if you're a US citizen. So I don't know if anybody had ever read that or had any enlightenment on that yield. Well, I will mention that Ed George was broadcast on this channel, FCC. And because of this, Paul being so busy, it's no longer broadcast here. And, we love Ed George. I'll just say that. Thank you, Scott. And what was the title of that, so I can put it in the chat, or do you have a date or something like that for that video? Yeah. It was in the most recent, and I apologize, I'm mobile and on a phone, but, it was in the most recent, I believe, email from the Republic call that Phil sends out, and it was a Word doc.
I don't know the title. Oh, actually, I might be able to look that up on my email because I can go to cellular data here. But his topic was how you list your sovereignty by the use of the state birth certificate part two. That was the, topics he was so I didn't I don't know where I might have deleted the the document or the email that had the first, part on there. But, let me see. Republic Education, these emails are unbelievable with the okay, in the email was from Phyllis and it says, birthing certificates 4457, learn the value in two types of birth certificates deception.
So that was if I click on that, takes you to that's you know what, that takes you to an old YouTube by the Australian guy there. George, it's Sherry. Yes. Hi, Sherry.
[02:29:54] Unknown:
Hi. Ed George, Edmond George has, a coaching session tomorrow night. Oh, yeah? Are you some uh-huh. Every weekend.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
Oh, wow. At 6PM
[02:30:09] Unknown:
central time. So it would be 7PM eastern. You're mountain, aren't you? So it'd be five. Pacific, actually. Oh, okay. So then it would be four. Mhmm. So, he's on Rumble, but he also I think his information is in the notice that, Phyllis sends out. So you can be able to you can call in or you can go in by FCC. So
[02:30:39] Unknown:
Oh, great. And then it's that same is it that same number that still sends around?
[02:30:48] Unknown:
As the republic call, no. He has a a different number. And the republic, I I do not believe, carries it, but, you know, I could be, mistaken in that regard. But all of his videos are on Rumble. Ed Ed George forty four. Chat. It's Ed George.
[02:31:14] Unknown:
Thank you, Sketch. 44. Great. Thank you. Ed George forty four in rumble. Okay. Yep. Small yep. I think it's all all small letters, but you can just go Ed George forty four and you'll find it probably. And he does the, he does the live, if you will, call on, cast it on Rumble at the same time?
[02:31:36] Unknown:
You know, I don't in there. I think I I don't know if that comes across Rumble at the same time. I don't know that. I it's my understanding that he uploads it afterwards, but I couldn't be mistaken.
[02:31:49] Unknown:
Yep. That's on a Saturday Saturday, 7PM eastern?
[02:31:56] Unknown:
That's correct.
[02:31:58] Unknown:
Great. Alright. Thank you.
[02:32:00] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[02:32:02] Unknown:
There might be an option to everything there, with the birth certificate. And in the book of the hundreds, they they say, use your baptismal certificate. As a Christian, that is of more importance to you than, birth certificate, and you go by that identity.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Not everybody has one, Samuel.
[02:32:28] Unknown:
No. I'm just saying for it's an option. And it's not parish. You know, being Catholic, you could get baptized when you're an infant. Technically, there's a lot of argument whether that's really valid or not and that we should be doing these potentially as adults or at least of age of maturity, 18 20 one area.
[02:32:57] Unknown:
Just really quick, I thought infants were christened in the Catholic ceremony. It was a christening, not a baptismal. No. It's I have a few friends that are are Catholic, and that's what they called it.
[02:33:16] Unknown:
Well, may maybe it's changed, but, you know, I'm trying to find the diocese that has control of mine right now and get a copy of it. So I I can't even This is private property.
[02:33:33] Unknown:
You just assaulted my tire. I'm gonna put a notice.
[02:33:45] Unknown:
You dropped out? Or did I? Are we still on?
[02:34:05] Unknown:
I'm here, Samuel.
[02:34:08] Unknown:
Oh, sounds like George went away. I also wanted to mention when we're talking about states, the original draft of the constitution that was sent to the Committee of Style, was because a lot of people even wanna say, well, who are these people? Right? Was we the people of the states of and they listed all the states. And the Committee of Style dropped them all because of course, Gouverneur Morris and Hamilton, guys like this, were Federalists, and they wanted this union not to look like it was states, but united, and that's why they did what they did. Mike, Jackie actually has a list of what the Committee of Style did to the approved document and it's quite a bit of damage.
[02:35:17] Unknown:
Who did you say had that list?
[02:35:21] Unknown:
Michael Gaddy.
[02:35:23] Unknown:
Oh, that's it. Thank you.
[02:35:33] Unknown:
I mean, a lot of these guys according to Michael were basically looking for a king on top of it. And they knew they couldn't get that, yet they did their best to put so much power into the presidency, that, well, you can see what we got today. Sort of proof
[02:35:55] Unknown:
on the face of it. Right? Sam, you all have to disagree in that regard, because the original election of the president and vice president was the one with the greatest number of votes was president, and the second greatest was the vice president, and they weren't necessarily of the same party.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Luther Martin, who left the convention because it was being done illegally, of course, they say it was signed unanimously except the guys who left out of disgust, he proposed three presidents from three different regions. That would have sort of put a stop to the civil war, but, you know, it didn't happen. And I think it was a pretty good deal all around, but it was it didn't have the power to protect itself enough and to punish tyrant. I guess that was really Patrick Henry's biggest argument. There's no mechanism here to punish a tyrant. And, you know, by the time we get to the civil war, we got lots of tyrants.
[02:37:11] Unknown:
Mhmm. I think the loopholes were written in to protect the tyrants.
[02:37:20] Unknown:
When I read Brost's, you know, The USA, the republic that nobody lives in, he he said Lincoln just took natural advantage of the power that was given to the presidency. He said it was just a matter of time before somebody did it. Lincoln was the first to essentially become a dictator and it's never really turned around since.
[02:37:49] Unknown:
Are you there? Sorry. I interrupted you. I apologize. I was, I got one of those, chalks across my tire as I was picking up some SharonBox for the for the Saint Patrick's Day. And, so I I said, hey. Are you assaulting my car? He says, actually, under the Ninth Circuit, it was a New York case, but out here, what's appropriate to us was the Ninth Circuit. And we, that's already been settled where we can chalk some, but I get that question all the time. So turns out the parking guy was a former former cop. He says, hey. I do this in my retirement, you know. So this is much easier. But, anyway, I was trying to do some trip reports today, like, I was in the Walmart, and I went up and said, well, I'm not going to kind of what Cheryl was talking about yesterday. I'm not going to pay this, this amount that you're saying because on the shelf it said it was $6.97 now you're trying to charge me $7.53 and the lady said, well, you know, yeah, you're in Washington, so you have to pay that and, you know, doesn't matter, blah blah blah. And I said, okay. Well, you know, I'll kick it upstairs. You know, I won't shoot the messenger here. She says, well, she said, you're being very nice actually. We we've had TV thrown thrown at us when we didn't return something or phones and things like that. I said, gee, wiz. So anyway, sorry to interrupt the flow here, but the lady did that, by the way, at Walmart say, well, what my sister does in Montana, she sends all her receipts in with the taxes and then she gets a check back. I said, well, that's interesting. I don't know if that means she's doing that exemption form or not. But, technically, if we're still on the territory of, you know, created by the the articles of Confederation even if there is a territorial overlay, through DC and and via the, you know, the the fourteenth amendment and all that jazz. Technically, if we're nationals and we've also identified that we're, you know, still part of the republic, that that tax shouldn't apply, I believe. Right? Because that's a personal tax. It's a it's a a tax on what you're what you're what you're buying, right? I don't know. Is that accurate that National shouldn't have to pay a sales tax?
[02:40:37] Unknown:
Wouldn't it be considered an excise tax? Correct. The same for everybody in the region? Doesn't that make it constitutional? I don't know.
[02:40:51] Unknown:
Oh, I see what you're saying.
[02:40:53] Unknown:
Mhmm. Though it's not uniform throughout the states. Right. I yield. Y'all talking about taxes?
[02:41:04] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:41:06] Unknown:
We just had a little incident with, I don't know what's called. Anyway, a phone dealer, and, he said we had to pay taxes. And he said I said, we're nationals. We do not pay taxes. He said, yeah. You got to. And I said, no. We don't. We're nationals. He said, well, if you're not gonna pay the interest I mean, the the what the law says, get out of the store. Get out now. So I went out to the van, brought my brought the affidavit for the, national to the secretary of state office, and I I served it to her. I said, you were served. You are served.
And I had four witnesses in that store watch me serve that guy. I'm throwing it in the trash can. You have been served. You can do whatever you want to with it. You have been served. So I'm gonna do an administrative process on him and charge him. I don't know what kind of dollars I'm gonna try to get out of him, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put it up pretty high.
[02:42:19] Unknown:
And that was to a manager of a store or owner of a store?
[02:42:24] Unknown:
He he works for, one of the one of the, companies that sells, phones. I'm not gonna tell you which one it was. T Family Mobile is what it was. And then he was, I don't know, Mexican or something. You know? And he went back in the back and got the guy, I guess, that was over it. I don't know. He said, what are you doing out here? And I said, well, I'm serving him. He said he said, give me that thing. And he said, we'll throw it in the trash can. We we don't come back here again. And I said, sure. I don't have to come back here again. So I'm gonna do the administrative process on them. And in thirty days, that affidavit has all the facts and and what I'm demanding payment or he he harm me, you know, in a certain way, how much money I'll get out of him?
In thirty days, I take it to after they're secured, in thirty days, like, the half a day with the secretary's day office, I go to, you know, somebody in in government and ask them to, put a statement on their judgment on that, affidavit that I gave, the guy. And it's cured for thirty days, and, this doesn't do. Wouldn't you have I imagine sort of somebody like that can do it.
[02:43:49] Unknown:
So What now? I'm try I'm trying to clarify that. Would you do that in a small claims, or are you going to
[02:43:56] Unknown:
just do it as a common law process, or are you doing it as as a Hang on. Wait a minute. I'm a tell you. Just stop. Look. You well, it's a it's your way of creating the law by that thirty day period. And you put whatever you did, whatever happened, that that and you can tell what kind of weather you even had. If he doesn't answer each one of those entries that you put on that pay piece of paper, it could be two pages. It could be three pages. If he leaves one of those off and he didn't answer any of those, one of them, he's in fault. In half the days, the two weeks, you put him in fault.
He's got two more weeks to answer the whole thing. You don't tell him why he's involved, but he's in fault. And he don't return his answer to you. Nobody involved except you and him at that point in time. After that thirty days, you go in in front of a magistrate or somebody. It's a judge or whatever that might be or even a officer, and get them to read it. And he and they know who it or what it is, it's an affidavit. In thirty days, that thing is a law. If he didn't answer or he didn't answer everything that was put on the the first one.
That's the law. Just like your affidavit secretary of state's office. Do you understand that?
[02:45:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I know the common law process. Yeah, they don't answer, and therefore, it stands as, you know, as the, but are you trying to are you trying to get, like, triple damages out of them? Are you trying to,
[02:45:53] Unknown:
do you Yeah. He that's he's trying to sell okay. He's trying to sell me a phone. That's why I asked for it. I didn't ask for taxes. He's gotta pay the taxes. The businesses have to pay the taxes. They put it on you to do that. Okay? That's what I'm
[02:46:13] Unknown:
doing. Gotcha. So then
[02:46:18] Unknown:
So now I see. You're a national. You're not a US citizen. You're not a US citizen. They pay tax. Of
[02:46:24] Unknown:
course. So Okay. If you so they ignore it, blah blah blah, where do you go for the recourse? Do you go to the corporation of that? Do you what's your Yeah. The corporation is gonna be,
[02:46:40] Unknown:
served too. Same thing he gets. The recourse.
[02:46:46] Unknown:
Okay. And then the insure obviously, they have insurance for, you know, employee things and all that jazz. So Alright. They can they can then come back to you with an offer of either, hey. Here's the phone or here's No. You know, we're we're sorry blah blah blah. Are you gonna have a order in there or a, a settlement in there?
[02:47:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There'll be a lot of how much I I was damaged that day. He assaulted me, and he didn't he didn't obey the law. It's what he did. And it's not commercial law. It is the law.
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And you you can serve that on mhmm. Can you serve that on anybody, or do you have to use, a reg the like, serve it to their to their you know, where their registered agent is? That's because he's an employee. Right? He's a slave, if you will.
[02:47:43] Unknown:
That's where it happened. That's where you serve it on that place and corporate
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office. Interesting. Okay.
[02:47:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Simple. This is simple process. In thirty days, if he don't answer or the corporation don't answer, every line on that, two or three pieces of paper you would bring up, say the sky was a greenish hue. They might not understand what a hue is, but that's color. If they don't answer that that, answer that that, sentence, then they're in fault, and then they're in default at the end of the thing. See, fifteen days, you give them a notice of they're in fault, because they didn't answer every one of those things by then. That gives them notice that they're gonna be in default.
You don't have to say they're gonna be in default. You you just write them a letter with everything that you put in there saying just copies and everything you just gave to them that they're that you're in default you're in fault. And then that's thirty days. If they don't answer, do you send them a letter, with everything that you had put in there with a signed document from the judge. You've been served the affidavit, the cured affidavit. It's the law.
[02:49:19] Unknown:
So which judge I'm sorry. I missed that. Which judge is signing it?
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We got any judge in the in the state or, you know, county or whatever. The lowest person on the on the bench. You don't have to be a, you know, you know, criminal judge or whatever they are in your in your state. You can go to a magistrate. Mhmm. Or you can have witnesses even. You have three three people that, is a friend or whatever. You know? They can Yeah. They can sign it, but, they didn't follow the process.
[02:50:11] Unknown:
Well, that's why I was wondering if you could, you know, have it have them return the, stuff to the notary, you know, like the notary is, kinda acting as the judge, but you can trust it.
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Yeah. You can do that too.
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Good stuff. Thank you.
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Yes, sir. Just simple. Just keep it simple. That's what I say all the time. You know? It's, the same. And it's quick. It's thirty days. And I can go on and on. You know? If they answer everything, it's it's something else. You know? Because they'll add stuff to it, and you answer them back. You got thirty days to answer them back. You know, it's back and forth back and forth sometimes. Nine times out of 10, it's just gonna throw it away.
[02:51:07] Unknown:
What's good about that, if you do do one of these, then you bring that stuff in to every other retailer and say, well, you know, you can, you you know, you can do you can say that I gotta pay it, or we can do it this way. You know? So
[02:51:23] Unknown:
Well, see, they what they did, they were taking my status that I told them who I was and what I was, and they're trying to put their law that they're supposed to do on me.
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Correct.
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So who's who's who's the victim and who's the the, whatever the the villain?
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Now will you will you cite the state laws? Or
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are you is that No. I'm just I'm just having the circumstances in the case. We're not supposed to pay taxes. We're not supposed to have a license. Okay? That's how powerful this thing is.
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Correct.
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A US citizen pays taxes. They have to have a driver's license.
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And in fact, you know, taking that, if that's true and I see I think, you know, we're taking that, like, really organic approach here as we talk. I think we you and I were talking about the other day, the articles of Confederation. If we take this to this level, if we sent in our receipts to the Treasury technically as a national, we're still operating with the original kind of Jacksonian, I guess, pre bankers invasion type of
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Got it. Got it. Got it. Even
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right, even in the exchange of the of the what's now currency, but it would technically, the treasury would have to do the trans you know, do all the accounting to make sure that we're working with lawful money based on who we were, not the fact that we wrote something on a check that said lawful money blah blah blah.
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Their job their administrative job, if you want to administer Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. No. You gotta understand. He wants dollars. The company wants dollars.
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Okay.
[02:53:31] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. You pay him dollars. That's what they want.
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Okay.
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But we don't pay taxes.
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Right. And I guess what I'm getting at is kind of picking up on some of the other things I've been talking and studying about is if we use dollars based on our status, we're not using the because it's basically a unit of measuring we measure like talk about jewelry or talking about gallons, gallons of what, right? So as nationals, we're actually using dollars as what is it 99 grains or whatever, pieces of eight, I don't know. Would you say that when we work with dollars, should it be all should they be in the background taking whatever way that they trace all this crap, and making sure that we're paying down that the treasury is being paid down because we're still not you know, the debt is being paid down because we're we're nationals on the original organic land.
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No. No. It's You see where I'm going with that? You got upset. That is separate from you. That's their deal.
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Correct. But I'm saying, we're not we're not being incriminated by using their debt, their debt system because of our status. No. We're walking.
[02:55:07] Unknown:
So and in fact, shouldn't Okay. You're paying okay. You're being you're being honoring them for the product. Right? Right. You wanna buy their product. Okay. They want dogs. Correct. And they want taxes from you that they're supposed to be paying. But everybody, you know, pays the taxes to get get whatever you they're buying. Everybody just goes ahead and pay it. But they're US citizens. That's who pays the taxes. We don't. We're trying to buy the item.
[02:55:47] Unknown:
Right. No. I've got I've got that. What I'm getting at is the dollar that they're asking for is actually debt. Right. So when we use a dollar, we are using gold and silver or whatever, something pegged to something, right? That was the original part of and actually I got to look at the articles of Confederation where they actually mentioned money in there. That's a whole mess because that maybe that's what Ed George when I made that statement that he's when I just restated what he said, what did he say here? I don't know if you heard what I was reading this Ed George piece and he said that, okay. So The United States code was put in place for We The People, American Nationals, to hold the government accountable in Title 50 U. S. Code.
There's a way for you to access your SESTAKEDV trust to pay off debt. You can't do that if you're a U. S. Citizen. So That's that's not true.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
That's that's incorrect. Anyone can do that. Do you know? The US citizen is in Social Security account. You're just utilizing that Social Security account for debts. In fact, 100% of every loan you've ever gotten came out of that Social Security account anyway because they consider all applications or letters of credit. You submit that into the bank. The bank takes a letter of credit, deposit certifies it, deposits into the Social Security account as a certificate of indebtedness, and then issues you back the money. Then they get you to contract with them through a promissory, you know, another other kinds of contracts in order to in order to get you to turn over power of attorney to them to continue using your your signature and your account.
Okay? So all you gotta do is do the letter of credit, but you when you when you do the the application, you have to do a power of attorney along with that and a letter of intent letting them know that this is the payment. Under under uniform commercial code section five, letters of credit. You know, as the applicant, you're turning it over to them to make them responsible for making sure that the payment is done. You don't have to do anything. Every literally, 100% of all Americans have done that who've gotten loans. Right? It's there's no it just a case trust means a beneficiary.
Right? The Social Security account is the trust that we're utilizing for those purposes since we've been in debt this entire time. That other thing is all it's all hocus pocus crap people talk about when they say, you have to do all these things in order to access the trust. You've already done it. That their whole and the whole purpose of you using that Social Security account is to access that account to because we're in a debt based system.
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Mhmm.
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Since they don't have any lawful money, the only thing we can do is set up debts that way. So that's why they set that up. That was the remedy. It's not a coincidence that the Social Security Act came out right after they they they stopped the gold. Right? They banned gold for being used in the country. It's the reason why they did it.
[02:59:08] Unknown:
But the UCC wasn't enacted till later after that. Right?
[02:59:14] Unknown:
UCCs have been around for hundreds of years. And I don't think they've been 25 different names. I mean, they all think I'm according to, you know, like, whatever, you know, whatever is going on today. Like, they didn't have, you know, electronics on transfers, you know, like, five hundred years ago. But the Babylonian merchants used the UCCs. That was that's where it came from. Now we we Raju talked about that.
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Mhmm. Right. So this is this is just done at the bank where you have your account set up, or do you do that with the treasury as well?
[02:59:56] Unknown:
No. Like okay. So let's say you wanna get a personal loan of $50,000. Right? So you go to, Bank of America, and you say, hey. I'd like to get a loan. They say, sure thing. Fill out this application. That's the letter of credit. Okay? The letter of credit, whether or not they they whether or not they give you the 50,000, that is deposited and the bank gets the 50,000 no matter what. They're never denied. Okay?
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Right. Yep. Good.
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But the problem the thing is that they wanna get because when they do that letter of credit, it's issued back to you because that's your credit. They were saying we have to run your credit. They're not giving you credit. You it's yours. Right? That's that's why they say we have to do we have to check your credit first. So they do the application. They get the they get the credits. And then what they want from you is for you to issue them a a promissory note so that way they can go and sell that so they can get money from this transaction as well. So you issue them a letter of credit. They give you the function of that letter of credit, then you issue them a promissory note, and then they go and sell that note and make the money over and over again, plus the interest rates.
Right.
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You're double dipping.
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Yeah. Yeah. So what I do, I just report it to the IRS. Right? And then they don't wanna they don't wanna take my money anymore.
[03:01:37] Unknown:
That's great. Yeah. We'll do that instead of what I'm doing. Thank you, Joe.
[03:01:48] Unknown:
Yeah. You're welcome.
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So then you you've kinda not you're not using cash because you you almost want everything to be traceable so that you can you can make them kinda stop, if you will. So you use credit cards Basically like that. Or
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Basically, you're an owner with both sides, the debtor and the creditor. You and the creditor and the bank.
[03:02:30] Unknown:
Right. And then by law by law, they're supposed to only get paid off of the interest, right, that that those notes make. So that's where their that's where the monthly payments are supposed to be coming from is those interest payments. But they're getting those interest payments from it being sold and traded for on the on the security exchange, commission. So they're supposed to be getting the interest in that.
[03:02:53] Unknown:
That's like your mortgage. That's what they do with that.
[03:02:56] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. You're supposed to say no. You but you want the money? Yes. You owe us money. No. No. No. No. I already gave it to you. I gave you I gave you lawful consideration. Okay? You're supposed to get it from the interest now. So go get it from the interest. And then if they really give you a hard time to go get the Bloomberg report, which there's only a couple of people that really make those things, and they're they charge, like, $1,500 for it. But once you get those things, I mean, you could just submit it to them, and they they don't wanna talk to you anymore. We kinda, like, wanna leave you alone because you're showing them that not only is that mortgage paid for already through the Bloomberg report, but that they're continuously making money off of it by creating portions of it. And when they see that you know that's going on, they can't even they can't even foreclose on you because they don't have a lawful claim against you if you don't make the payments anymore.
Alright. It becomes it's a big problem for them because if it you know, if you submit that into the court record, right, they have to withdraw their claim because you've just proven that they don't have one. So it's failure motion to be dismissed. They'll they'll just say the claim. Alright?
[03:04:11] Unknown:
Well, that was good information. Thank you. Now if I can follow the deed, I could try to do it, but I need to learn a little more about it. But, anyway, that's great. I knew things. We already have been, you know, paying them because they go, like, on the mortgage. And you don't pay it off for thirty day thirty years. You know? They've just already been paid off.
[03:04:44] Unknown:
Joe, Jim Jim Ramm, many years ago, pretty much made that kind of a statement, regarding his mortgage in the court. And the judge says, even though you're right, I can't rule in your favor because it would destroy the system.
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Alright.
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Well, I It's pretty much in the death toll. Yeah. I I did the same thing, and
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later on, we didn't win our case anyway, but, they wouldn't go let us win the case. And they came back, and retaliated against me. My wife had done the mortgage, thing and everything because her parents gave us some money, so I let her do the deed for them. Wasn't anyway, so, I came into the foreclosure court and rep well, I was representing my wife, protecting her like, the husband's supposed to do in this matter. And the judge looked at me and said, I don't think you need to be here, mister Hagan, and, we're not going to abide by what you're saying. And I said, sir, under the the law of coverture, I am protecting my property and my interest, and she's my wife.
He looked at me and said, well, okay. He didn't know what's up. And he was he was the clerk of court for the Supreme Court in South Carolina for thirty two years. And he wanted a job when he retired, something else to do, so they put him in the magistrate's court in the county. He didn't, work to do. That threw me and Gerald later for $250,000 cash behind on me. That was later after the foreclosure.
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Wow.
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And so all the attorneys, all the attorney, offices around the state that had to come into that county doing foreclosures petition to get him off the beach because it took too long for this case to go through. My k our case. We had other people too involved with same thing. You know? But, they threw me in jail with $250,000 cash bond on me. I was in there for nine months, and the jailer got me out of there. I don't know what he did, but he said we can release you now. I was working on it, and I knew you didn't need to be in here. He said that, you will get to people that we didn't have a clue how to handle in that jail cell. That was the the jail.
And one guy, they were watching. They had he'd come from prison, and this was a stepping stone for him to get out of prison to go back into the county jail, and they would observe how he was gonna handle that. And if he didn't handle it right, they're gonna send him back to prison. Well, he has a little attitude about him, you know, first and being himself like he always was, I guess. About, let's see, four months, maybe five months, He came up to me and said, hey, Bruce, can we talk about, about being married? And I said, yeah. I've been married thirty two years. And he said, would you mind talking to me about being married?
Being married? And I said, well, yeah. When you wanna do it, just let me know. Go sit down and talk. So he came up to me, and they were watching. I didn't know. The officers were watching people at jailhouse and watching to see if he was gonna do anything. And I sat there and talked to him for an hour or less about an hour and five or fifteen minutes talking about being married and your responsibility as a husband and how you respect that woman and that she respects you. And, you don't beat a woman, and that's what they do all the time with their women. And he was black. You know?
So I said you you gotta honor her in the best way you can. You know? She'll honor you. And then you have children, which is what you're here for what you're in marriage for. You support your wife in every way she needs support. I wish I wish I'd there for you know? He never heard stuff like that before. This is that's terrible stuff. You know? And, he shook my hand. Thank you. Thanks for your help. I don't know. After that, I had already yeah. I had gotten out before he got out, but, that's what the the guy who was over the jail, said, you you got the people we couldn't even touch.
You know? And we wanna thank you for doing that for us. I think that's what got me out of jail. And God puts you in places, you know, that you need to be or it happens to be. You know? It's all, you know, predestination, I think. That's what Presbyterians think, of course. But, anyway
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What year was that about that. That all started?
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I started learning, law, at February, and it was right way law. And I first meeting we went I went to, I had no idea what they were talking about. It was, like, way way off my my parameter. And, I had a guy that, I started helping him. I was serving paper for for him. He was doing stuff, right way law and quite successful in it. And he was helping me, and I was helping him and, started learning. I got each meeting they had once a month and started learning a little bit about that. He taught me some more and stuff. You know? And, then I was able to handle my own case, actually. That's what I was doing. It's foreclosure.
It was kinda like learning as you go. You know? It was kinda like that.
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So that February, that's when you had to did you study while you were in the clinic to learn it? Or No. No. No. No. I started learning law in February.
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I got thrown in jail in February I think it was '8 or '9, something like that.
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Gotcha.
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And my fourth my wife divorced me while I was in jail for, you know, six months, seven months, something like that. I think it was nine months, actually. And I agree. Let her go, you know, if she wants to. Not be around, crazy people like me. That's that's how they look at you. Are you crazy? I fired judges and attorneys in the courtroom too.
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Amazing.
[03:13:29] Unknown:
Yes, somebody mentioned earlier about the christening. Yes, as far as like there is infant baptism as part of a covenantal agreement. But then later, like, within many churches like a thousand, there is a, it's called confirmation. So it's kinda like part of that. Somebody's saying that you should get baptized later or whatever, but it's kinda covered that way within the sacraments. So as far as getting to an age where you understand everything, I just wanted to Yep. Visit that because that had come up earlier.
[03:14:08] Unknown:
Well, I tell you, just like me learning law for the first year. Heck, I was still scrambling around trying to figure out what was going on. You know, I learned it, you know, pretty quickly. But I mean, I wasn't gonna give up. You know? That's the whole thing. And, it comes to you. You start getting grounded and stuff. And I guess, like, that's the way everybody does that. They learn through experience. You know? But I tell you that first meeting, right way law, I just said, I I don't know what the heck they said. No idea what's going on.
I all laughed, and I was driving the car with three other guys, and they started laughing because they'd been there for, you know, years. They started laughing. We've been there, Bruce. We've been there. So I said, okay. Well, I gotta run, guys.
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You're good to talk. See you tomorrow.
[03:15:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I appreciate you listening to me, and, Jeff, thanks for your contributions. Everybody's contribution. I'm just calling. It's really a gold mine. A go a golden mine, like, in your head.
[03:15:53] Unknown:
Yes, sir. You have a blessed day.
[03:15:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I have already. Thank you.
[03:16:26] Unknown:
Now Joe is still out there. But Joe, have you ever been served or I don't know how long you've been doing those securities things, but some of these things that went around, I forget what it was, Accepted for value or something like that. They were eventually dragging people in ten ten ninety nine I d IOD or something like that. So I didn't know how long these other, practices have been going around and and if, you know, they've been trying to chase people down on those.
[03:17:10] Unknown:
Well, you you you were asking a question?
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Yeah. Some of these, I don't know how much
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some of
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these using the securities and using the UCC, there was I forget which ones it was, but I kind of steered clear of it just this is fifteen years ago now, twenty years ago, and I kind of stayed clear of all that kind of stuff because folks were set promoting all these UCC tools, but then they were getting hammered later. I don't know if it was Winston Shroud or something these guys that got I don't know if they were selling solutions or what they were doing, but they went after them. I don't know. I don't even remember exactly what it was and how they went after him. But my concern was with
[03:18:07] Unknown:
go ahead. Go ahead. So my other thing is a couple of those guys like Winston Strout and a couple other guys, what they did was they made these monetary instruments and then pay paid it over to the United States Treasury to to pay off the public debt. But they so they were making them for, like, you know, $500,000,000,000. And, apparently, that's what these guys went to jail for. And then, like, one guy, they he wrote them, like, one of these bills of exchange or something for, like, $500,000,000,000, and the IRS's response to him was please make a filing. And he wrote back to him, I'm not a taxpayer, so I don't file.
And so they threw him in jail. So, apparently, you know, trying to erase the public debt with one monetary instrument is not a good idea. Right? Because a few of those guys tried that, and apparently went to jail for it. There's a guy named Eon on YouTube who talks about that too. And he goes, he went to jail, and he says they won't tell him you know, they won't say the real reason it is, but it's because he he says he knows because it was right after he made, like, a 505 hundred billion dollar bill of exchange and sent it into them. And then they came and arrested him, and he spent, like, nine months in jail for that.
So don't don't write these extravagant amounts on, on these bills of exchange and send them in. But Right. But I I've helped people do that for at least to settle their tax debt, and it it has worked without any issues. You know? Uh-huh. That that has that has been successful, but you don't go, you know, you don't write one out for, like, $500,000,000,000 and go here. Enjoy.
[03:20:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, do you yeah. Right. Enjoy. I hear joy. Do you think of that well, you know, that's it brings up an interesting question. Do you think that we're we have to stay within the scope of whatever whatever instruments say has been that they're trading out there with our once our name got into the public through the birth record. Do you think that kind of we have to stay under whatever that limit is kind of thing? And once we go above that, they're like, hey. You're you're now a a public threat. You know?
[03:20:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, because it's gonna collapse the system. Right? You know, you send in these monster instruments and it it pays off the entire debt, then what? Now they have to go back to gold. And so I bet you they don't have any gold, so they can't put us back on the gold standard because there's no gold. They probably wouldn't. At least they don't have enough to make, like, to make money from to, like, coin money with and then actually don't put it out there for people to use. Most people would lose all their ass you know, all their assets. Well I mean, a lot of these bankers a lot of the banks are just crashed.
Since their entire system is based off of debt, all the banks and stuff like that would just they would just crumble because they're they're trading, you know, worthless paper right now, but they're Mhmm. They're making so much money off of that worthless paper. You know?
[03:21:33] Unknown:
So All the gold. Didn't all the gold get get washed down the drain when the lady from, James Bond took a shower?
[03:21:43] Unknown:
I never saw that.
[03:21:45] Unknown:
Remember they yeah. They they painted the lady gold or whatever. Goldfinger or whatever that movie was. I was just trying to make a joke. Sorry. You you know, people always
[03:21:56] Unknown:
always talk about gold, but the coin of the realm before 1834 was silver. And they came in and adjusted that ratio because they didn't like it, and all the silver got sucked out of the country. That's how we got the gold. And then we ended up being one of the biggest silver manufacturers out of the Karnstock load and a few others in the world, yet that money didn't really stay here either because of that ratio offset that they created, just like when FDR bought the gold or made the gold illegal and changed the value of gold all at the same time. They've been manipulating it even when it was and that's really what the the whole story of, The Wizard of Oz was about.
Dorothy was supposed to have silver slippers. But
[03:22:52] Unknown:
Yeah. In the book, she has silver slippers.
[03:22:55] Unknown:
Yeah. It was because it that was a that was a protest book about them destroying the silver markets in the country, and and the feeling was that if silver was brought back, the average guy could have something to pay a debt with instead of just the rich with gold. That was sort of the political argument.
[03:23:26] Unknown:
Well, that's Yeah. And then that got it. Scam.
[03:23:31] Unknown:
I'm sorry, Joe? What was that? Yeah. I mean, that is the scam they're running today Sure. For sure. Which is, you know, like, no one can really pay a debt. But I you know what I do? I just go out. I take, I I just take a portion of of cash I have, and I go down to the jewelry store, and I just buy silver coins and and gold coins with it. And I just consider that my savings. You know? Like, that's what I'm saving up for, because it keeps going up in value. So it's like it's like I I I buy this stuff now and, you know, it goes up in value. So it becomes more lucrative to just have that silver.
You know, if I need money later on, I can always sell some of it, and I'd get I'd get more in my return, you know, than than what I put in.
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Yes.
[03:24:30] Unknown:
Yeah. They say it just broke 3,000 for and that was supposed to be one of those barriers that, after it hits, it would accelerate over.
[03:24:41] Unknown:
Well, great. Because I got a ton of it.
[03:24:44] Unknown:
Hey, Joe. It's Bruce again.
[03:24:46] Unknown:
Hey, Bruce.
[03:24:48] Unknown:
How do you get a hold of your, information that you have every, week? I hope you put it out on on one of our shows. The group meeting I'm sorry.
[03:25:04] Unknown:
Say that again?
[03:25:06] Unknown:
The group meeting you have, I think it's on Thursdays or something like that.
[03:25:11] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. The you have to go to breeddivine.com. And then, yeah. There's a woman. She she's like the host, and then I just go over, I go over all the, information.
[03:25:30] Unknown:
Okay. Can somebody put that in the chat?
[03:25:35] Unknown:
Redivine.com. Yeah. I just put it in the chat. Yeah. That's, well, yeah, that's just because, the reason I'm doing it like that is because I've had a lot of issues with putting my my name and face out there. As in, you know, I've had, like, the cops following me around and giving me a hard time and stuff. Yeah. I'm I've they've stopped. But since then, I I've just chosen a little bit more wisely what I share publicly, you know, because Right. They've been set off by there was a few videos that I put out there on Rumble that they that's really set them off. And, like, the DOT video, they didn't like that one.
You know? Showing you how to get the the exemption for for being on the road because it's adopted in all 50 states, so they can't they can't really refuse it. All they can do is just treat you like crap in the courtroom. But when has that ever been not a thing? Yeah. So that was one. There's a couple other videos I put out that they really didn't like. So I, have since, you know, at least unlisted them. So if you have a link for, you could see some of them. But, you know, otherwise, it's not for public viewing just because I'm just trying to not get hurt by these guys. You know? They have a lot of evil intentions. But you know what I did to get them off my back was, I wrote a treaty.
Right. Right? Because the constitution Yep. The constitution says, you know, what's gonna be the law of the land. Right? The, like, this constitution. Right? Whatever laws that, congress passes and then all treaties. And I said, well, I'm not a member of congress, but I could write a treaty. Right. I wrote a treaty declaring peace between me and all the states and, The United States. Yeah. And, they've left me alone since then. Only public officials.
[03:28:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Did you wear a powdered wig while you were signing that tree?
[03:28:10] Unknown:
I should have.
[03:28:13] Unknown:
I should have wrote hear you hear you too. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To have I have a self selfie of you and a powdered wig. You know? So but who and who who who who signed the treaty? Was it all one way like King George, King George with the colonists? Or Yeah. How do you how do you get somebody to sign? You who who do you who do you do you be I'm I'm confused. Do you have a notary?
[03:28:39] Unknown:
I said, no. What about the declaration of independence? Right? Right. Okay. It was a one it was it was a one-sided contract. Right. Hey, Joe. So I signed it as a declaration in
[03:28:53] Unknown:
Did you have a further VPN?
[03:28:57] Unknown:
Yep. So oh, someone's calling me. Hold on.
[03:29:17] Unknown:
He's a Jew. Yeah. He has Joe, I just wanna say I I really do love the way your mind works. And, I'm glad that you got the brass balls to back it up.
[03:29:36] Unknown:
Gregory, he took a call. He's not hearing you right now.
[03:29:40] Unknown:
Well, I second that motion, Gregory, and thank you for speaking up from rough and ready.
[03:29:50] Unknown:
Yeah. It takes a little bit of effort to go in there and place them.
[03:29:55] Unknown:
I thought that would agree.
[03:29:58] Unknown:
I thought our treaty was our, affidavit. Now that he brought that up, isn't that really what it is?
[03:30:11] Unknown:
Yeah. But you could actually just double down. Right? Just say, okay. I'm gonna make a treaty too and and and then find some other avenues to, bombard those morons with.
[03:30:25] Unknown:
So I wonder if it
[03:30:28] Unknown:
oh, go ahead. I was just gonna say the question is, does does the constitution say a treaty can only be written by Congress, I yield?
[03:30:39] Unknown:
No. It has to, be approved by congress by the senate. But did he send it to the secretary of state?
[03:30:52] Unknown:
I would send it to the court. Well, yeah, because since we're under we're under martial law, right Right. I utilized the principles under the, Libra code and wrote it based off of the Libra code.
[03:31:06] Unknown:
There you
[03:31:12] Unknown:
go. That's that's how I did it. I
[03:31:18] Unknown:
Yeah. That that's important.
[03:31:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead.
[03:31:24] Unknown:
Right. Because I think that is one of the jurisdictions, just based on obviously the history that that along with that administrative and kind of that military is kind of under the administrative, but yet it still has some original kind of jurisdiction even way back to the land, going back to the original we've on the land, we're protecting our areas. It's kind of cover military covers kind of so many things. So I think that's wise the way you did that because the affidavit should do that. It should technically include the labor code as well.
But putting into a we don't really put it into a court. So I like and the court is where we're getting court martialed, right? Somebody is saying that they're using somebody said the other day that the traffic laws are based on the war the war laws or something. I feel what they said, but one of their 2,300 statutes that you protect or traffic cozy could break just driving down for the market back. So I like that idea. And did you have an open court case or you just create,
[03:32:36] Unknown:
No. I have an open court case. They're trying to give me thirteen years for, for weapons. Yeah. Okay. Pocket knife. Yep. Yeah. Jeez. Jeez. Yeah. That's New Jersey for you. Mhmm. Oh, you had a pocket knife in your pocket? That's that's years in jail. But, you know, the cut like, it was I mean, it's it's bullshit charge. You know what I mean? Like, first of all, this is The United States Of America. Right? He no one should be getting charged for walking out with a knife. We have a right to bear arms. In fact, in the dictionary, neither defined as a tool, not even a weapon. But they gave me, like, five bogus charges saying I was I had the intent to harm persons or property with it, that I had a concealed weapon, and that I was using a concealed weapon to interfere with a this with a, with a police investigations.
Right?
[03:33:39] Unknown:
Right. Right. They use that like, resisting arrest. You know?
[03:33:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm like, how was I using the knife to interfere with police police investigation? The you know? So what's interesting is after I sent that stuff in, like, the treaty, right, into the court case, you know, based off the Liber Code principles and the Reconstruction Acts. I sent that in, and, I I didn't hear anything from anybody, but the cops stopped following me around everywhere I was going. And then, hold on a second. I'm walking this is New Jersey, but there's, like, lots of big trucks everywhere. So but, you know, the cops stopped following me. And then when I went into court, the next time I went in, the prosecutor was, like, really nice to me.
The judge is really nice to me. The, you know, the prosecutor looked a little shaken up, actually. He looked a little like he was, like, concerned. I mean, my wife even said, what the hell did you do this guy? Why is she so scared of you? Like, mhmm. But he was like, hey. Let me help you out here. Let me get rid of the felony charges. And he just crossed the door. He crossed them right off the docket. Like, here, these are gone. Alright? So don't worry about those anymore.
[03:35:07] Unknown:
And, But it's like it's like you had given notice that you weren't a, belligerent needing to be on parole. You know?
[03:35:16] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. And I told him I was non belligerent. I said I'm non belligerent, peaceful, noncombatant, you know, inhabitant. And, I was very careful about the words I used in that thing because, you know, you know, all these little phrases can can give him jurisdiction. Resident. Right? Citizen. Right? They even say, well, state citizen, yeah, because the fourteenth amendment. But that's all from resident states. Right? State citizenship to the fourteenth amendment is residency. On the passport, when they show the state, it's the state you're born in. So that's the native soil. Right? So I know there's a difference between, like, the state citizen, like the national that Rogers always talking about versus the fourteenth amendment state citizen, which is a resident.
And that's that's the difference. And the passport just shows you the difference. So that's why I was very careful about the words I use. I looked through the constitution, and they talk about inhabitants. Right? So they have citizens, and they have inhabitants in the constitution. Up until the fourteenth amendment, that's when we start talking about residence. So I said I was an inhabitant, and that I was, non belligerent, non combative, peaceful inhabitant. And I I told them that I had in my possession the receipt that they needed according to the Libra code for me to obtain back my property. And I sent them a copy of the birth certificate.
So, saying that there's the receipt. Right? Because the because the first certificate is a warehouse receipt. And they pretty much have been very nice to me ever since then.
[03:37:23] Unknown:
Right. Because then they they can settle all the accounting using that birth certificate. Right? Because they're
[03:37:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, I sent that back to Vital Statistics. I just have a copy of it. Mhmm. I told I I sent it back to Vital Statistics thing that that, that I've, bonded that, that account and that, I was returning the security interest and the receipts for how I was gonna keep the assets. And, I haven't, I never heard from anybody since.
[03:38:02] Unknown:
So we can't keep we can't keep the security that they're generating, but we can keep the, profits that they're making on it? That is that kinda like what your understanding of what the use effect and the and the Boris kind of stuff was?
[03:38:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I know Boris has his own thing about endorsing the birth certificate or something. I I don't know. I'm not sure what he does exactly, but he said it once before on a call what he was doing with it. But, I just figured going to the UCCs, right, any kind of certificate of title or any kind of certificate is the certificate of title, which shows a security interest. Right? So I'm like, okay. If there's a security interest, there's a creditor and there's a debtor. It's it's it shows a relationship between a creditor and a debtor. So who's the creditor?
Now who's the debtor? So I figured what they're probably doing is there's collateral attached to those secure those certificates. Something's put like you look at a card title. Right? It has the state name on top. Right? And this is like this is like, you know, kindergarten fact. Whoever's on top is the boss. Right? That's that's what they're doing with the certificate. Well, we're on top, so we're in charge. So they put their name on top, then you're you're on there, and your name is on there, and then it has the collateral, which is the car. Because, you know, it's always bugged me about why they can take the cars without violating the fifth amendment.
How are they allowed to do that? Like, the cops are going, tow your car right off the street because it's not registered? Like, where's the what what happened to due process? You know? And the cops all laugh about it too. They go, What are you gonna do about it? You know? So they they violate the Fifth Amendment every single day. Anytime, I in a car that's, like, post registered or unregistered, and they catch it and they take it, they're violating the Fifth Amendment. But I think they're you know, my thought was the certificate of title is how they're bypassing that.
Because what they're doing is they're using this this legality to say, well, since you have a certificate of title in hand, you're a debtor on this contract and we're the creditor. We can repo that stuff. We can repo the collateral from you if you don't follow the contract as stipulated in our private statutes. And then that's exactly what they're doing. So that's why I just send it back. So I just gave it back to them. And when there's like a rescission of signature, I'm just sending all signatures. And you give it back to them. And now they don't have Right. You can't hold security interest against you anymore on that car. And you just tell them that you're gonna keep the asset.
I mean, what are they gonna do? They're gonna say no? No. You no. We have to retain the security interest in the car.
[03:41:34] Unknown:
Right. And that also gets rid of the power of attorney that's written in the codes that gives the the registrar or the DMV, the power to do what they do with the with the statutes. Yeah. Haven't
[03:41:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I've been giving everything back to them. You know? It's like, here's your here's your birth certificate. Here's your certificate of title. And, you know, they don't they don't pull you over even when the car is, you you know, registration's expired.
[03:42:10] Unknown:
You
[03:42:13] Unknown:
know? And I think So you leave the tag leave the tag on there so that they could still trace it back to what's been done legally? Like, still leave? Yeah.
[03:42:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Leave the tag on there. And, then the cops can run it, and then, you know, the where I live, the cops run them. They just have automatic reader. So they're just reading all the, points as they go by. Now the nice thing about the DOT stuff is that the the plates don't read. So it doesn't like, they won't know unless something pops up on their screen telling them that something's wrong with the car. Right? Because the DOT numbers don't register anything with their their, scanners. So people are left alone with the DOT stuff because they they don't know, and they can't read them.
So but, you know, every once in a while, you get that one cop that just wants to know why of what's going on. But then he starts screwing with people. You know? Right. But they'll you know? It it just gets The new guy the new guy,
[03:43:18] Unknown:
yeah, the do gooder who just came on the force. Right?
[03:43:23] Unknown:
Well so, I mean, no. It's usually the other it's usually the other guys who've been around for a while and, you know, they really, they've just turned into bonies at this point. Those are usually the guys that stop you. I've been stopped by guys. Everyone who stopped me with my DOT number, they were all, like, been on the force for, like, eight to twelve years, and they all had a bone to pick with people like me according to them. No. I got a problem with people like you. I don't mean people like me. I'm one of the techs. Aren't you?
Are you all the people? Do you represent all the police? Well, you're faced with the track. Okay?
[03:44:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I just say, yeah. You know, officer, I I am Joe every man. Thanks.
[03:44:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I'm every man. Like, like, once you know, I have the one copy he's telling me, he's like, why wouldn't you register the car? He's like, everyone registers the car. I said, yeah. Because they don't wanna deal with this shit. That's the only reason. Nobody would do it, Satan. If they knew there was no consequence to not registering the card, nobody would do it. Who in their right mind knew it? He had nothing to say to that. Yep. Well, the only reason why people do half the things they do is because they don't wanna suffer the consequences of this corrupt agencies and their minions.
[03:45:14] Unknown:
Joe, regarding your treaty made me think of, the land patent. And, you know, you put that powdered wig on, and you open that with to all in whom these presents shall come greeting. And then you look through this thing and you get down to the description and you get down to, you know, now know ye. And then I've noticed on this document that every date, every number is spelled out, and the book of the hundreds does the same things. And they say that anything written in numbers is a misnomer and can be overlooked. Whereas even in this land patent signed by Benjamin Harrison, all the dates are written out.
Even the land description, all of those things are completely written out. No numbers are used. Thirty two is written out, you know, whatever. I find that interesting. I wonder if the old treaties are that way as well.
[03:46:33] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm pretty sure they are. But the old treaties are written out in words rather than numbers for the years. Yep. Because it says in the year of our lord, you know, and then it will say 1700 or whatever.
[03:46:57] Unknown:
I mean, to write out the meets and bounds, that's a particularly long it's almost the biggest part of the document. Right? But they went to that effort for some particular reason.
[03:47:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a reason for it. I guess it's because it it conveys truth and the the numbers, I've read somewhere that the the numbers can be, mis misread. Like, it'd be like five or six. Sometimes people's five and six look the same, so they can't tell them apart. But the word five and the word six did not be, missed the street to beat each other. You know?
[03:47:46] Unknown:
In the book of the hundred, they're basically saying that it's it's just like putting the all caps name. It's a misnomer. If you don't write it out, it's a misnomer.
[03:47:58] Unknown:
Well, I take it as a trademark, and then I went and got the name trademarked. And, I sent I sent that into the court, like, hey. Look. That's that's my DBA, and it's trademarked. But they went and changed the name on all the documents that they made. So I'm gonna just did it again. Here. I got that one trademarked too. And they yeah. And you can see they got frustrated about it and went and changed all the paperwork again. And, I changed it all again. You can see after the third time, they were like, forget. We're just gonna ignore it. But I thought that was really funny.
[03:48:42] Unknown:
That that's Yep. In in in, I've got that book on, the judge's defense against these different claims, I forget the name of that manual, to be able to counteract our claims. And they talk about the name in there. And in some cases, what they they were talking about, the judges, well, you just change your name a little bit. Right? Yeah. That's all you do. You know? Just misspell it another way.
[03:49:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I I just think it's hilarious because, you know, they keep changing the name and you go, well, that that tells you something right there that they're they either are not allowed to use their name or or that or something. You know?
[03:49:35] Unknown:
So Stamper Stamper also says anytime you change the name, it's a different trust.
[03:49:42] Unknown:
Well, I mean, it could be.
[03:49:46] Unknown:
Because that's why they asked you to to add your w two to do middle initial.
[03:49:57] Unknown:
Well, I I know there's something I've noticed about the names. On, the way the names are spelled out can mean something different. It's either finance or it's, shipping. Right? This is what I've noticed. Like, on the driver's license, it's last name, then first middle. Right? And the same thing with the passport. Right? And then when you have crimes, like real crimes, on the court docket, they spelled the last name the same way. Last name, comma, first middle. I'm like, well, that's interesting. So they're all tied into one another. Those the name being spelled like that.
Or if it's a criminal, if it's another, like, real criminal charge, then it's first name, middle initial with the period last name. But if there's no period, then it's financial. First, middle, last or first, middle initial, no period last name. It's all financial contracts. And most of your tickets are written out as financial contracts. Right? It's like first name, middle initial, or middle name, last name, or first name, middle, or last name, which is all financial contracts. Right? The hospital bills come in that name. Credit card bills come in that name. Now the, bank's rights are in that name.
Most of the traffic tickets are written in that name. But the felony charges were written with the last name first.
[03:51:33] Unknown:
Yeah. In international law, I found that they have to use an nom de guerre if they're at war. They cannot use their real name if there's a controversy at war. And I think that can be connected to the fourteenth amendment that we are in rebellion and the War Powers Act, and that's why that name exists. It's a war name.
[03:52:01] Unknown:
No. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, it's like the only thing I can confirm is what I what I've seen them react to and how they reacted to it. You know? But it seems as though if you if they're operating under certain aspects of law and some they're not, like, you know, it's kinda it puts me in a quandary of, like, what what laws are they actually operating under? And I I I think they don't wanna be transparent about it because if they were, everyone would know how to handle it. You know?
[03:52:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't. If Stamper is right, these lower courts don't understand. But as soon as you got that writ and stuff like that and it got pushed into a higher court, then you had somebody who was understanding what your arguments were and were saying like, now how do we deal with this? Right? Yeah.
[03:53:07] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:53:11] Unknown:
Well, I've know I noticed that, you know, I've been going to, like, these, oh, municipal courts since I was 18, And they've they've mostly just treated me like crap. You know, yelling at me, belittling me. You know? Yeah. For the most part, when I go to appeals court or I went to, like, county court, like, this you know, they actually did. You know, like, I went out with a girl years ago, and I broke up with her because, I just couldn't I couldn't be with the girl unless she's driving me nuts. But but anyway, we broke up. And then she went and started telling everyone that I was beating her. And the cops came and arrested me.
And I had to go to county court in front of a grand jury. And, the, you know, they had no evidence. You know, I didn't hit her. And, you know, basically, the grand jury just kinda looked at it and was like, well, where's the evidence of abuse? And she's like, oh, we don't have any just take my word for it, basically, is what you're saying. Like, believe me. And, it does do that. It goes, well, since there's no you know, we can't find any evidence of any wrongdoing here. It's just you're just making a claim that can't be backed up. He doesn't let me go. That was it.
So that was, like, probably the only time other than appeals where I felt like I was in an actual court of law. You know? And they took that they took that scenario pretty seriously. You know? Where, like, you know, the jury was like, we don't see any evidence. And the judge agreed, and they just they they let me, you know, and they let me go. And I was I thought I was gonna go to jail just because she says so. And, you know, you hear about all the guys who end up in jail for, you know, you know, being claimed for being claimed to be a rapist, and they end up in jail.
You know? Even though they're innocent. I was thinking that was gonna happen to me. I'm like, great. She just says, that beat her, and now I'm gonna go to jail for this. Like, this sucks. And they just dropped it because there's no evidence. I said, wow. This person actually can be honorable. Right? That's pretty cool. Be a different story today, though, Joe. Well, that was 02/2008. So Yeah. You know, and I just you know, I didn't have a lawyer. I just went in there and sat down and, basically, I said nothing the whole time. I just went in there and they just told that there was no evidence. So no one doing pinky sounds.
And I remember the mother got up and started yelling, what about revenge? The mother was like, we want revenge. And the judge goes, I'm sorry. We don't I don't do revenge in this court. We do justice.
[03:56:25] Unknown:
Vengeance is mine, sir.
[03:56:29] Unknown:
I think he I think she pushed the button with the judge. You know? But he was very nice about it too. You know? And I'm, like, thinking about it. I'm like, how come the judges don't act like that when you go into court, like, to traffic tickets? They treat you like you're like you and chills. You know? That's how they treat you. So I don't get it.
[03:56:57] Unknown:
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hue man there. Right? You're a hue man in traffic court, presumptively.
[03:57:04] Unknown:
Yes. Hue. A man of hue. Yeah. That's it. I'm a man of hue. Okay. Never thought of it like that. That's pretty funny.
[03:57:18] Unknown:
It's the color of man.
[03:57:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I love it.
[03:57:31] Unknown:
Yeah. What color glasses did the judge have on today?
[03:57:37] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I would like to find out exactly how these traffic courts really operate and, like, what laws they're really operating off of because they don't seem to follow, like, procedures. You know, they ignore all in everything you put into court, but they don't wanna talk about it or bring it up. Or
[03:57:57] Unknown:
Spamper says the only place you find a lot of the terminology is in manuals of court martial.
[03:58:10] Unknown:
Oh, that's what you were saying with the traffic what the traffic law was, Samuel. Right? Yeah.
[03:58:16] Unknown:
Military military law. It's court martial law. That's what he said. There's the only place we find those terms that they use in traffic court. In law, anywhere.
[03:58:30] Unknown:
Well, you know what the definition of traffic is. Right?
[03:58:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know which terms he was pointing out, but, his book is well worth reading. I think he really understood and really cared and might be off on a few points. In general, he's Is trap?
[03:58:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I yeah. I wonder where it says then what it says about trafficking in court mark in the manual court martial. But is that where you were going, Joe?
[03:58:58] Unknown:
No. No. In Blackboard's Dictionary, the definition of traffic is commerce. That's what traffic means. Okay. Commerce.
[03:59:13] Unknown:
Because it is interesting language wise. My, my wife's from Brazil and another buddy had married a Brazilian, and he was down and trying to impress his new in laws, with his Portuguese language knowledge and he goes, trafico intenso aqui, but trafico means drug trafficking in Portuguese. You're supposed to say transito Intenso a t. Yeah. So interesting. So it's commerce. Traffic is commerce Yeah. In blacks. Right? You said what about in what about in Bouvier? Does does it have traffic in Bouvier?
[03:59:52] Unknown:
I I didn't look in there. When I saw that definition, I said, oh, well, that's very interesting, isn't it?
[04:00:17] Unknown:
If it is all commercial, or financial, the court system, your traffic laws, what contract are they using
[04:00:29] Unknown:
to apply to you?
[04:00:32] Unknown:
What if you don't have one? Or like in Cheryl's case, never had one.
[04:00:40] Unknown:
Well, I mean, that's, you know, that's a good question because I got I got in, like, eight citations one night for driving without a license, and I never had a driver's license. And then when the judge told me he was gonna suspend my license for a year, I laughed. Because I've never had a license. I was like, I started laughing. He goes, this isn't funny, mister Wistika. I said, well, I think it kinda is because you're suspending something I've never had. And he goes, I'll I'll make it two years if you want. I said, one year's enough. Don't you think?
You know, I it's gotta be the birth certificate and the Social Security account. That's what I think they're doing. The birth certificate is how they get is is how they get in jurisdiction over people.
[04:01:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Because I I pulled out my, certified copy, and there are two signatures on it, which form a contract. So I found that interesting. And one of the signatures was not either my mom or my dad. It was the doctor and the registrar.
[04:01:53] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[04:01:55] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:01:57] Unknown:
Interesting.
[04:02:01] Unknown:
Yeah. It's almost like,
[04:02:03] Unknown:
go ahead, Saoirse. I was just gonna say, so I do think that that is the contract that everything stems from.
[04:02:13] Unknown:
Well, you know, it makes sense. The doctor, an agent, and then the mother. Right?
[04:02:21] Unknown:
Well, she didn't the letter Yeah. But she didn't sign. She hand printed. No. The registrar
[04:02:30] Unknown:
signed. Registrar. Right. That's at the registrar. But that's that's a unilateral contract then, isn't it?
[04:02:38] Unknown:
Well, you have two signatures, the doctor and the registrar.
[04:02:42] Unknown:
How's the doctor having the right over the baby? All because it's under the it's under the doctor's care. Cool.
[04:02:52] Unknown:
And now I don't know what to do with this thing.
[04:02:54] Unknown:
You didn't find that on your birth certificate? I just it was brought up last week. I thought you were on the call, but you might have already left by the time I pulled mine out and looked at it because George had brought something up about it. So I find it interesting that that could be the the foundation of every implied contract that they use.
[04:03:20] Unknown:
Could be.
[04:03:22] Unknown:
I I Because you're property. Because you're property. But once you put in that affidavit coming out of the fourteenth amendment, not being a US citizen, doesn't that change everything? Or by holding that document and not resending it, the birth certificates?
[04:03:42] Unknown:
I think you yeah. You guys just rescind it. You know? You gotta look up the birth return. This is where I got the idea from. I found this thing called the birth return where the father, after about three months of the baby being born, what he would do is he would write on the back of the birth certificate, right, how the that the baby was okay, that the baby got to carry what it needed, and the baby's alive and well. And that's what he had to do. And I found that to be very interesting. And I said, well, look at that. What does that do when they do the birth return?
Right? They're returning the certificate. Right? So I guess you can update it in the bible, the family bible. Right? And now you don't have this contract with the state anymore. Oh, we got it from here, guys. Thanks so much. Have a nice life. That's what it sounded like to me. And I said, oh, why don't I do that? You know? Mhmm. I don't have a father of my birth certificate. So I I was just telling that, you know, I I got care of maintenance. Like, I'm fine now. I'm the I'm the I'm the thing that was the baby on there. I'm a grown man. I'm in charge of my own affairs.
[04:05:01] Unknown:
How did I say? Right. You're return you're returning the minor estate or you're you're showing that the you're taking, you're not the trustee of that thing anymore of of whatever they've created in the presumption. Right? That's right. Whatever That's basically just a minor account or whatever.
[04:05:20] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like some kind of financial agreement, but I'm I'm resending that contract now. So now that you don't have a financial agreement and I know it is. I I it's gotta be because, if you don't have ID on you and the cops have to ID you for some reason and I've seen them do this in videos, and they this is what they did with me. They get the name and the birth date, and then they can find you in their system. I said that's the birth certificate. I mean, essentially, all the birth certificate is is the name and the birth date. Right?
So that's it. That is and that confirmed it for me. I said that's exactly what they're doing. Because I see they get you know, you see in these videos, some guys walking around with a camera and the cops going, you can't do that. It was all I need your name and your birth date. Those are the two things they don't that's the only two things they need.
[04:06:17] Unknown:
Well, Joe, let me ask you this. So the rescension of your birth certificate, the use of the treasury department then is for discharging debt is no longer valid?
[04:06:33] Unknown:
No. I don't think that has anything to do with it.
[04:06:36] Unknown:
They are separate and distinct, though they run off the same number. Or no. I guess it's Social Security, which is separate. Okay.
[04:06:44] Unknown:
If you have a Federal Reserve note in your pocket, right, a Federal Reserve note is an obligation in The United States. Okay? Whether or not you have a birth certificate, doesn't matter if you can use that obligation or not, right, to acquire something. Okay. Right? So it'd be the same thing as if you turned it back into to the US Treasury to redeem for the loss of money as you're, you know, you're allowed to do. You're supposed to be able to do that, but, of course, they they won't do it. I've tried. I've sent a $10 bill. I go, pursue it to, 12 US code for 11. It says I can redeem this for lawful money, which I intend to do. But so I would like to receive my lawful money for this US obligation known as Federal Reserve Note.
And they, they write a letter back to you. Then they send the dollar back, and they go, we don't do that. Okay. We They'll actually send you the dollar back, which blew my mind. I was like, they didn't even keep it. They sent it back.
[04:07:51] Unknown:
I wonder if you have to start kicking upstairs to the IMF, Joe. Or the b f b I f. Never see it again. Yeah. No. It'll be it'll be converted into into Italian lira or something. Right? Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. We we we sent this to the Vatican, and, here you go, Joe. We made the exchange for you. Here's here's some worthless lira.
[04:08:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Right.
[04:08:16] Unknown:
So, you know, what's interesting about what we were talking about now about the birth certificate, and you earlier were saying like what's on top of the for the title you had the state or whatever. Well the birth certificate it's almost like endorsing it if that is a bank note it's almost like endorsing a check. The mom signs then the doctor signs then the registrar signs and then they send it off to what Department of Labor, pardon the pun, in DC and maybe they sign. And now all of a sudden the dad shows up and he signs and sends it back. It's almost like that check, right?
When you I know some when they're first talking about money in Hong Kong, I'm reading this book, Debt, the first five thousand five thousand years. And, they found these British checks that had like 40 Chinese signatures, really small on the back of them because people just kept endorsing the check and passing it on as money. And, you wonder if that you're doing the same thing with the birth certificate that it's that it's a note of some sort, and they're maybe just passing that around.
[04:09:24] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I think it's it's just a you know, they say it's a bond. Right? And, I I think it is a bond, but it's not like a monetary bond that accrues an interest because there's no value written on there except for the weight, right, which would be the gold. Right? But what I think it is is it's it's like a it's you know, one of the definitions of bond is the slave. Right? A bondman. A slave. And it it's just something that binds somebody into into contracts. Right? Like, that's the financial instrument that they're using to bind people into contracts. And Mhmm.
It's more of like, like, you know, the Department of Labor gets involved with those things because where you have to provide a birth certificate for a job. Like, you don't have to bring the birth certificate in the show to get a job, but you need it in order to get any kind of identification, which is what you use for jobs. So I I I think it's pretty telling that those those things are used in that way to kind of guarantee, you know, The United States currency by by using your labor as their collateral to to print all the Federal Reserve notes.
[04:10:52] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep.
[04:10:56] Unknown:
Now I found a document years ago. It was a finance a UCC financing statement. And I shared it here after the call one day. I think we looked at this thing for, like, two hours. You know? Wonder who if anyone was on that call that day. But we looked at the thing for, like, two hours. It's kinda, like, mulling it over, like, what the heck this thing is. And my thing was that that was how they were creating the Federal Reserve notes, by using the people and the land as collateral to do it. That's why every that's why everything's on security paper. Everything's like, all these certificates are made on, like, this bond paper.
Now the birth certificate, the cars, the deeds to people's homes, because that was all the the financial asset that they're using to make money, right, or to print money. Those things are guaranteed. Like, think about it. Cars use gasoline. Right? The gasoline comes out of the ground. So they use the car as a financial asset because they're gonna get the money back from the taxes on the registration, on the licenses, on the gas, on all the oil used in the cars. So there's a lot of money to be made from these cars on that, you know, that, respect. And then the houses too. They use that to use that as a means to get the property taxes.
And then, the first certificate to get your labor.
[04:12:49] Unknown:
But, Joe, what you were mentioning earlier is that even if your car isn't registered, they tow it off. Wouldn't that stem from the birth certificate then?
[04:13:02] Unknown:
Wait. Say that again?
[04:13:04] Unknown:
If you don't register your car and they still tow it off, isn't that coming from the birth certificate as the foundational contract?
[04:13:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. It comes from that because the certificate of title has The US person, which is that name, and then has the residency, fourteenth amendment, the address of the person. The name is usually spelled out. Sometimes it's it goes either way on the certificate's title. And in different states, it's a little different, but I think it's because they they treat them a little bit differently, you know, by the state jurisdiction. So, like, in some states, it's last name first and then first middle name, which is, like, all shipping stuff. And then some of the times, it's the first, middle, last name or first and last name, which is financial.
Mhmm. And I think the difference is that, in some of those states, they won't tow the car unless the cop wants to. And those other states, it's it's, it's mandatory that they tow the car if it's not registered. And it's probably based on how the name is spelled on those certificates.
[04:14:29] Unknown:
What? That's amazing.
[04:14:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Because the the so first name, middle name, last name, it's all financial contracts, right, which is all done in trust anyway. Right? First name, middle initial, last name, financial contracts. First name, middle initial with a period, last name is like all shipping contracts. So it's like shipping storage. Right? Or if it's last name, comma, first, middle name, that's all shipping storage contracts. So it changes. I find it's a different version that it gets names that's spelled differently.
[04:15:15] Unknown:
I believe if you use the Christian interpretation of the names, you can drop the surname. It's your first and best.
[04:15:26] Unknown:
Yeah. They don't like yeah. I've noticed that the courts don't like when you do that. You know, they get they go in an uproar when you only use the first name, and you refuse to use the last name. And I think it's because they have a property interest in the last name because it's part of the clan. And it's the feudal system like what Raj was talking about. It's all futile. They go, well, we have that name because that came from your parents. And your parents, we owned your parents, so we own you. And There goes you stop using your name. It's
[04:15:56] Unknown:
it's Satan's court, and it's Satan's usage more more more likely than anything. That's why I like staying away from it. It's and it's a good legal argument.
[04:16:07] Unknown:
Yes. I gotta I gotta go because I'm gonna Hey. Just really quickly, Joe. So couple,
[04:16:14] Unknown:
the birth return of your birth certificate, along with the affidavit is we need to do that return the birth return. Is that what you're saying as well?
[04:16:27] Unknown:
I'm not saying you need to do that. I'm saying that that was the idea that I got from looking at that stuff. It was from, like, a nineteen o seven congress, or an act of congress in nineteen o seven. And I I I found that I gotta find it. I can't find it. I lost it somewhere. I gotta go dig for it. Once I find it, I'll share it.
[04:16:48] Unknown:
But I'll be back with you. Alright. Have a delightful day. Thank you. Alright. You too.
Introduction and Platform Overview
Weather and Lifestyle in Ecuador
Education and High School History
Civil War and Historical Reflections
Nationalism vs. Imperialism
Separation of Powers and Government Structure
Biblical Definitions and Cultural Insights
Common Law and Jurisdiction
Financial Systems and Debt Management
Legal Challenges and Personal Experiences
