In this episode, we dive into a myriad of topics ranging from the intricacies of Admiralty Law to the historical roots of the common law system. We discuss the recent appearance on Jeff Rense' show, where the conversation centered around the misconceptions of Admiralty Law and the impressive response from the audience. The dialogue shifts to the historical influence of figures like John Wycliffe and William Blackstone in shaping the common law tradition, highlighting the importance of understanding the law of the land versus the law of the city. We also explore the cultural and historical significance of the War of the Roses and its impact on modern legal systems. The episode touches on the power dynamics within the legal system, the role of juries, and the ongoing struggle between common law and Roman law influences. Additionally, we delve into the cultural aspects of Yorkshire, including its culinary delights and historical symbols. The conversation is enriched with anecdotes and insights into the legal and cultural history, providing a comprehensive view of the topics discussed.
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Well, alrighty. Well, we may have we may have changed it a little bit last night. We'll find out. Here we go on the Friday edition, Radio Hill Ranch, Roger Sales, and I think Brent Winters is gonna be with us if he's not already. They've changed Zoom, so I don't see if I can see all those people up there. Regardless, it's the March 7 on Friday, of course. I don't see Francine. Rogers Sales Radio Ranch, and, we'll get into the dialogue right as soon as we take the time here at the start to recognize all of our partners and, helping to extend our reach here. And, boy, we may need them pretty soon, Paul. So please give them their right stroke them real good, would you?
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Yeah. We just might. Actually, you're not the only one who's having problems this morning, so I'm glad that we're actually getting the bells on. So, we are on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paul, across the drink, And we're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we are on Global Voice Radio Network on Pod Home. And that's it today. Mhmm.
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Really? Yeah. Well, that's alright. I don't know if we'll have any listeners, from last night's show here today because we didn't plug the radio show very much. We have a lot of
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information to try and cover in a very short amount of time as it applies to our stuff.
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But I will tell you it was a grand slam out of the park. Jeff has already booked me for next Wednesday in the second hour. He said his people went nuts over the information. He praised me up one side and down the other on my on my skills communication, etcetera. And, it appears mister Rents and I are off to a pretty good start, and, I have a feeling I'll be hanging around over there from now on, at to some whenever he feels like bringing me back. But the interesting thing is, obviously, Jeff has never been schooled in law and has gotten a lot of this peripheral stuff. And I was so pleased when he confronted me with Admiralty Law there at the first to be able to just reel it off and say, this is why it can't be Admiralty Law. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
And, I guess, people were extremely impressed. And, I sent him a copy of the book. He's gonna post it in headlines for download over there today. And as you guys know, when you're presented with this initially, it takes a little while for most people, not everybody. Anyway, he got it. He got it with the two questions, I think, and we didn't have too much time after that. But, we will pick that back up on Wednesday. So thank all of you for your prayers. Thank you for your emails to Jeff to get it on. He's saying, boy, you got a sizable audience, buddy. That was his, and that's nice to hear from him.
So, pretty excited. I believe we're, we've found the springboard we've been looking for. Waiting for and praying for, and I'm just tickled to death. So there we go on Monday morning, mister Paul. I see Francine. Good deal. That's good. Francine We might, known this. I was booked on Jeff Rentz last night. I'm not sure if Francine knows who Jeff is, but he has got a large radio audience. He's been doing three hours a night, weeknights for thirty years or more. So he's compiled quite an audience, and that audience, because of the nature of his scheduling and guests, are real truth seekers because they get a lot of stuff over there, that you you or the first time you ever heard it. I never heard of the Sabbathians of Eve before. He had Barry Chalmers on there. I don't know that anybody else had either. I've been studying that for a lot of years already. I've never seen that anywhere.
So, good. Good on you, Jeff. Thank you. Love you. Can't wait to be with you again next week and your audience, and what a thrill and an honor for me. So thank all of you that contributed to the heavy lifting. Roger.
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Roger. Joan. You and Jeff ran for such a good match.
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Yeah. We did pretty good. Well, we both guys like Brent and I. See? But the reason one of the reasons Brent and I do so well is because both of us have got broadcast background, and the same with Jeff. And, yeah. I thought we bonded pretty good, Joan. Hey, Roger. Thank you. Yeah. I see I see that mister Winters showed up. Hey, Brent. I think he did. Did he?
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Looks like he did. Oh, I can't see that screen, but maybe a
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There he is.
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Update. Okay. Well, I'll hold on, Brent. We got an update from Paul. Here we go. Good.
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Well, we did stream, the first hour of Jeff Rance on Global Voice Network. The first hour is already up on Pod Home. There is a transcript available. Just like a normal Radio Ranch show, I mean, I streamed it to the PPN Radio Ranch FCC group and also, the backroom group. And it basically had everything running.
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So Good.
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That that fifty nine minute and forty five second archive is up right now.
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And, of course, there's not a lot of time to cover what we cover, especially when you're going in in-depth on some of the background stuff. But, you know, Jeff just likes to learn. He was just saying, I just like to learn, man. He he learned a lot through that whole hour. And, and then I guess he'd kinda been looking for somebody. Brent is skilled in the law. And early on, he asked me about Admiralty Law, and I went through prize and booty and remedies and all that kind of stuff briefly. But I think maybe he's gonna tap me as their law guy, which is just a real honor for me.
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Well, sure. Well, no. I'm tickled to death. I don't I'm surprised that, you got on. Did you somebody suggest he call you or something? We have one of our listeners, Thomas. Jeff
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occasionally will open up the phone lines and have callers call in. He did it over Christmas, and somebody from our group got in and said, you need to have Roger Sales on your show and gave him the website. Mhmm. And I never heard from him. Well, Thomas, he did that again about two weeks ago, and Thomas, our listener in South Florida, got through to the call screener, whose name's Todd, by the way. And, and and he said, listen, how can I write Jeff? And he gave him another email address that we didn't have. And so Thomas wrote him and I got on the air and asked folks to send him an email, you know, and he they did real good. Kind of covered him up, I guess, with him. And, he scheduled me. And so that was last night. And boy, it was a pretty good success, Brent. I mean, you know when you do a show and whether it's good or not, you know? Oh, yeah. That one was good, and and he loved it.
And I are you familiar with the runs?
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Oh, I've seen him, and I've listened to him some, but I Okay. Don't make a habit of it. I don't make a habit. I would like to listen to your show every every weekday. Right. Can't do that, and
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I can't do that and kill the snakes I gotta kill. Sure. Well, if you don't know anybody, I don't can't believe anybody wouldn't. But Jeff is one of these guys, and he glommed onto the Internet real early. And he put up a website that's a news aggregation site, I think is what I'd call it, where you get all kinds of articles and different stuff from different places, and you congregate them on your website there. And that's what he started. He started a radio show back then. I don't know what his background in broadcasting was to that point. Oh, I do too. He used to be the, he used to be the producer and and one of the, camera people in Las Vegas on a TV show for about ten years on TV news and stuff.
So I believe that was his, his broadcast experience. And as soon as we started getting VoIP over the Internet and broadcasting and stuff, he was right there at the front of the train, and he'd been very consistent for over thirty years, three hours a night, and having stupendous guests on where he gets some of these people. I don't know, but he's really cutting edge on an awful lot of stuff. And, so it was perfect for us, and him and I seemed to hit it off. And I'll be with him again next Wednesday in the second hour, and they're very hungry. They're hungry for the information, which is fantastic.
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Oh, yeah. Well, it it all come down to the response he gets from the his listeners. That's the way that works. Right. Yep. And if they're What they
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he's not a big Trump fan. He's not? No. He's not. Mhmm. And I I'm I've I'm under I've I knew that ahead of time. And so when that came up last night and his, Zionist affiliations, and I just said, well, Jeff, this is a way to do an end run around that. We can expose those people for Trump. Hey. Well, I think I think he liked that. You know? So, anyway, I'll be back next Wednesday. We'll do as best we can to finish up and add some, wholesome sprinkles on top and stuff, and, we'll see where it goes. But I have a feeling I'm gonna be in regular rotation over there at some capacity, which is fantastic.
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Well, sure. No. I'm glad to hear it. The more exposure you can get, the more exposure we all can get. Exactly. Yeah. That's right. Well, I've I've met a lot of people, of the very conservative Elkin, more in my camp, that, expressed as is always the case, once the rah rah rah is over and everybody's excited, then people start complaining about the guy they were supporting. Namely, we're talking about DJ. And, that's to be expected. It's not gonna be avoided. We, all think we're smarter than the guy that's holding levers of power, and maybe we are in some points. But but, on the other hand, it's like people I used to watch people in tax cases, and they hire a lawyer to defend them in a tax case, a criminal tax case.
And, they try to tell the lawyer how to run the case. Now in many cases, lawyers don't know what to do, and I I can see that. Boy, some of them did don't care one way or the other. But in other cases, they do care, and they try hard, but then there'll be a great difference. And the client always thinks he's, not always, but in those tax cases, especially where people have tax theories about what income tax is, and they think that they're the smartest guy in the room, and, they're gonna run the case. And it doesn't work. No. It never works. Once you get a lawyer, you you've made the plunge, and you either support him or you don't. And once you get a president, you made the plunge, and you either support him or you don't. Of course, you have a choice. You don't have to. You don't have to do anything I say. I'm just saying it's it's good.
Politics is war as we've often said here. And when war happens, people instinctively and always run to the extreme ends of what they believe. And so you got two opposite poles because it comes down to kill or be killed. That's what it comes down to. And, in politics, being war without bloodshed, it's, everything but bloodshed. That's what they tried to do to Trump, everything but bloodshed. And they'll well, no. I shouldn't say that. They tried the bloodshed thing too. They tried to assassinate him. Yeah. If you don't if you can't get it done without bloodshed, then you go to the next step of war, which is bloodshed. And politics give us an emotional outlet, scream and holler and and say, no. You're all wrong. I'm ain't talking to you anymore. And we got the levers of power now, and we're gonna crush you with whatever the whatever, options the law demands.
And, that's what it is. So, you're gonna support support one gang or the other. Politics is all about which gang is gonna occupy the territory for four years in in a presidential situation. Which gang is gonna occupy the territory for the next four years? And there's a gang up up occupying the territory, and they're going to the extremes of warfare, what they think they can lawfully do. And I believe they're being trying to be constitutional about it. As a matter of fact, I heard a fellow the other day. He was, he was a very, well known host on public broadcasting, radio, PBS, which we talked about here, I think. Of course, they're hacking PBS.
I hope hope they hack it out completely. Can you imagine government saying we wanna have our own branch of the press so we can put out the information we wanna put out? Well, that's what we've been doing since Lyndon Johnson and spending billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars to let the government put out information. Listen. If you let the government have money to put out information, they're gonna put out that from information that supports the government. That's all. It's gonna be lies, and that's what public broadcasting has been doing. I went up against them on several occasions, and I found out that they, were overtly, patently supporting my opponent on the radio and on television. When I get on, I think I mentioned this. We've they'd won't have a debate. It was always about democ they had a show called Democracy Now and a couple other shows. Makes it sound like they really care about being balanced. But then I got in the studio, and the studios are always on always on, government supported, taxpayer supported university campuses, which means government schools, which if it's a government school, they're only gonna put the spin on all the facts that are available to learn. They're gonna put the spin on it that helps the government. That's the way it always works. That's why government schools are dangerous and bad from grade school right up to the university and the grad school and the law schools.
Any let me change gears here a little bit. Any school, any institution, it doesn't make any difference what it is. It's going to put its spin on the same facts that everybody else has. That's what education is all about. Education is all about. And if you have the right spin, that's good. In other words, how do you interpret the facts? Take, for example, evolution. You've all heard evolution. Well, that says that somehow within the gene pool of a species, things can change for the better. Well, that that's it. That is impossible as a matter of fact, because the gene pool is limited and all of the mutations that occur are detrimental to the species.
That's the, the simplicity of it is so blatantly obvious that it's stupid to say anything else, but, our government schools have been promoting that idea for and I'm talking as a guy who grew up on the farm, saw a lot of mutations. We had a pig one time, Roger, born with two heads. We had a calf born with two heads too. Wow. Or my brothers and I, we were young, and we wanted to see if we could make these critters survive. And we found with the pig that had two heads, or we tried to feed him and all, but no matter he'd stand up, and he was so top heavy on the front with two heads that his head would fall down into the dirt, and his nose would get in the dirt, and he couldn't breathe. So Oh, man. There's no way the animal was gonna survive because mutations are always detrimental to the species. And that's what that was, a mutation. What's a mutation? That's a stacking.
Have you ever seen Roger, for example, a quartz crystal or a a cluster of quartz crystals? They're kinda pretty. They come in different color. Silica. It's SiO two. And, the and they'll if they're stacked perfectly, the molecules are stacked so they fit perfectly. The crystal will be a perfect shape. But in nature, that doesn't occur very often. If it does, you've got an expensive crystal on your hands. It looks pretty. But quartz will stack and you'll see the shape of the crystal and form of those particular molecules, but the quart crystal will be leaning or will have a flaw in it some place, and all mineral elements are that way. They'll always they have, crystals, water too, water forms and crystals. But crystals, if one molecule, Roger, one molecule is not stacked exactly right to fit with another molecule that as the molecule stack, that imperfection will magnify until Mhmm. A dry core crystal as big as a house will be leaning sideways.
Mhmm. That's the way that works. Well, genes stack the same way. Genes are have a certain molecular structure, and they stack. And that's, what makes us symmetrical. You know, I say to people, they'll look at me, and I'll talk to them, somebody I don't know, and they'll smile, and I'll see they got a dimple on one side or both sides. And I'll say to them, wow. That's really sad. What do you mean? Oh, those dimples you got. Well, why why is that sad? Well, that means that the bone structure of your face didn't stack stack right. The genes didn't stack right when you were forming in the womb, and now you've got this ace it's not symmetrical anymore. It's not asymmetrical to your face, and that's why you've got dimples. And that's a fact. I learned that in high school when I was in biology class. If you've got dimples as attractive as they are, it's a sign that you've got a face bone structure in your face that is not perfectly symmetrical, and that happens in the womb. Well, that's all a matter of gene stacking. And if genes stack crooked enough and they get crooked enough, did you have a mutation like a two headed animal? We had a hog born. And by the way, a calf, we had the same thing. Calf born, two heads, us teenage boys, young teenagers. We were 12, 13, my brothers and I. We wanted to see if we could make it live. Of course, it didn't. It same thing. It was top heavy. It'd fall over in the front and couldn't breathe. It knows it gets stuck in the dirt, and that'd be the end of that. Well, we had a pig born once that had three legs down and one leg up. Hind leg on the on the right side facing forward, it stuck straight up in the air. Really?
Yeah. So when the hog walked, the leg that was sticking straight up in the air and the foot sticking up there and the hoof and all, it would move just like it was one of the legs, but it would be sticking straight up in the air. Well, this hog could get around. It only had one ham because the other ham didn't develop, obviously, because he never put any weight on. He became rather like a pet. We just turned him loose, let him run around. If he'd been with the other hogs, they'd shoved him out of the way, and he disturbed him to death. So we just let him run around like the dogs. We kinda treated him like a dog, and he'd do this, that, and the other. We couldn't sell him on the open market. Couldn't get a decent price for him. So we when he got big enough, dad, shot him, and we butchered him. Then we got one ham and a lot of bacon. We had him fed up nice. It was he made his contribution to the family, and we were very appreciative of that, of course. But we didn't get much out of that other hand because it's all mutations.
All mutations within a species are detrimental to the species. But evolution says overtly and stresses that the way species change are through mutations. And then turn around and say, of course, you recognize all mutations are detrimental. Well, of course, the gene pool is closed within a species. What is a species? A species is a is is a group of animals that can re can reproduce. That's called a species fundamentally speaking. There are always exceptions to the rule, always exceptions, but the exception, of course, is not the rule. And the exception to the rule establishes the rule as sir Francis Bacon said. So there is a rule that, that, maintains in genetics, and that's the way that happens.
But in our government schools, we all have the same facts. And the facts that I gave you about about, that I recited, I learned them about, genetics are facts. They are unchangeable. They are laws. What is law? Law is the way things are and ain't gonna change. And the laws of genetics and mutation and the limitation of the gene pool are just facts. So we got the facts, and the people that wanna produce or push evolution. And the people that say, no, that's not true. They form educational institutions. And those educational institutions have the same facts, but they each put a different spin on the same facts.
That's what education is all about. Whether it's good education, bad education, Christian education, or pagan education, it will always put a different spin on the same set of facts. That's why education is important. And education, by the way, is not the answer. Education is not the answer. I was in running for office, and I had a professor call me. And I've told this story maybe. I don't remember. I'll tell it again for people, but I haven't heard it. I was running for a congress. And I got a professor call me from a local state university. And, his name was, his last name was Butts, b u t t s.
And I was hoping, that his first name would not be Seymour or Harry or something like that. It wasn't because he wasn't he wasn't what I'd call American. He was, he was a citizen of India, and his last name Okay. That's an Indian name. Well, he's he he's a nice guy. He was an education professor, and I got I got to a local restaurant. There was a new Mexican restaurant around there, and I met him. We sat down. Nice fella. And he he said, I got I had to talk to you. I said, well, what is it, professor? He said, here's my here's my point. And he said, you're you may go to Congress. He said, looks like you will. He said, you I gotta tell you this. I gotta tell somebody. I said, what is it? He's at a former state teacher's college, which is now a state university. He said, America will not be able to withstand much more miseducation.
America will not be able to stand much more miseducation. We're tearing the whole country apart with what we spin. We're putting on the facts, The spin we're putting on the facts. Now we both got the same facts. When did the first African slaves arrive in the new world? Well, we've been told it was in 1619, right? I heard that. And that's been since the woke revolution here over the last few years of 1619. Well, we've always known that. Well, then they say, but that's the founding of America, and these people are the ones that found in America, not not the white folk. Yeah. So they put a different spin on the facts. Well, the Africans that got here were deserved, not to be drugged here. Kidnapping's a capital crime. The people that kidnapped those folk should be should have been executed. That's what the Bible says. Kidnapping is a capital crime. They shouldn't have done it. And, they did it and say, well, the slavery. What about that? Well, that's another question. Let's just start with the kidnapping.
You gotta kidnap a slave like that, and that's what they did, and that's crime. And and we know who was behind it all, of course. And there was a whole industry behind it, and Yeah. England England finally ended it. They ended the slave trade, not slavery, the slave trade. The slavery was never lawful in England because it's a common law country. You say, well, how how is it lawful here? Well, lawful here because, England said this is not, this is not a country. This is a part of our empire. It's imperial, and we and the king is emperor in America. That's so, slavery is lawful, and that's exactly what they said. That's why we had slavery. That's why it was allowed, and that's why people here said, oh, great. Let's just have a ball and have all the slaves we want. And they accepted.
They accepted all that. And, of course slavery was very prominent in many different places, but in different ways. I had that also. Down south, it was different than way down south. Down the river, as he used to say, was different than in East Kentucky. And, and in other places in New England where there was slavery, there was different levels of it. And that's never hardly, hardly ever, sometime, but not often talked about. But people had different attitudes toward it because of that. But then war and politics first is war without bloodshed, and that drove people to the extremes on the question of slavery. You're either for it or against it. And when I was in politics, I found out people would ask, well, look, I don't want your ex explanation. I don't want your BS political talk. Are you for gun control or again? And I don't care why. Just tell me. That's all I wanna know.
And I found that that's important when you're in politics because it's war and in war, you don't care about the reasons I had a brother over in, you shouldn't. I had a brother over in, sand land. I call it all those countries over there in the sand And, Afghanistan and Turkestan and Stan Manan and whatever the name of them were. They're all the same. They're Islamic in that sense. He was over there, and, he came back, and he was telling me they were sending him to schools, the different kind of classes to learn about Islam. I said, what'd you learn? Boy, he went into great detail. And I said, why are they teaching you this?
And my dad was sitting there. My father, he was in the South Pacific during the war. It finished up in Okinawa. Very, very much an ugly situation. I said, say, dad, when you're over there in, South Pacific and, the the Japs came forth like demons from hell, did they try to write a teach you about their religion and what they believe and help you understand them so you could, deal with them better? He just said no. I said, what did they teach you? He said, well, we had to kill them before they killed us. That's all we that's all we do, and they didn't try to teach us anything else. Well, that's warfare. If you're truly in warfare, the talking's over. Understanding is over if you're truly in warfare.
And if warfare has been, properly declared according to our constitution, which it hasn't been since World War two, but I'm making the point. War drives men to the extremes. It has to. You're either in the fight or you aren't. It's either black or it's white. We've borrowed the issue. When you go to court, it's the same thing. You borrow the issues down. You have pretrial litigation. Why? To try to get down to the bottom of the question, the question question at the bottom that controls all other questions. And once you get there, litigation becomes simple. It's black and white and up and down. We don't ask the jury to come up with a treatise and a a a bunch of philosophical legal BS about why they did that. We don't care. All we want the jury to tell us is guilty or not guilty.
That's war. That's the way warfare operates in trial. And our common law country is trial is, battled by trial before the jury. And we all all we want is yes or no? Yes or no? Make it simple. We've dialed it down. Same thing in politics. When you go to vote, you know, ancient lady, they used to throw a black rock or a white rock in the ballot box. Ballot. Ballot. So old Latin based word means what's related to our word ball. It means to throw. You throw it in the ballot box. The ballots where you throw the pebble, you know, ball, ballot, same, same, fundamental word with the same fixed meaning that governs all of its uses and the range of its uses, but it means to throw. And so you throw your little pebble in there. You punch yes or no on the referendum. You punch this, this candidate or that one. And that's the end of it. You're not not given a space to describe why. I mean, you can do that in other place if you want, but when it comes right down to the final push, warfare. This is what governs warfare. It's in or out, up or down. There are no trophies or ribbons for second place. No red ribbons for second place. You either win or you lose. You either die or you live, and that's the end of it. And that's what life comes down to at every point, my friends.
And if you can't see that in politics, you're nothing but part of the problem. You're nothing but slush. You're just bouncing back and forth to listen to people talk about when DJ Trump arrived on the scene. One guy's arch conservative. He said, well, I didn't vote for Trump, first time around. A lot heard so many Republicans say so many different things and never come through on any of them. The only difference between the Republicans and Democrats here, the Democrats wanna drive off the cliff at 80 mile an hour. Republican just wanna drive off the cliff at 40 mile an hour. That's the only difference, which is fundamentally true, of course.
But when Trump came up, they said, I didn't believe it. I didn't this, and I didn't that. Well, then he came through, appointed the Supreme Court justice like he said he would, and they over and those justices then became the reason that Roe v Wade was overturned. Mhmm. When you're in politics and who wants to hear? I hear the downfall of Newt Gingrich. And Newt Gingrich is somebody I became familiar with, but I was running for congress at that time. I was in his office, talked to different people in his staff and him. And Newt Gingrich, among many other things, failed ultimately because he tried to educate America.
That's really why why he was always trying to tell some story from history and give a lesson. Now he can do that as a professor. He can do that someplace else, but in politics, people don't care. They wanna know in or out, up or down. Their lives are too busy. They're not a bunch of philosophers and historians, although they may like it. And they they and, you may be the exception to that. Maybe you liked it when he tried to explain everything, but he was wrong in many cases anyway, and his explanation and his spin on the facts. He had a lot of problems that, I wouldn't I wouldn't want him in office at all now that I understand who he is and who's who he's surrounded with. But what I'm saying is what I'm saying is, in politics, it's down and dirty. We gotta fight. And who's got time to listen to a lecture on history or a treatise on legal philosophy?
There are places for that. Maybe this is one of those places here, Roger. We talk about a lot of things here, but, just to make the point, it's war. But all of life, again, all of life comes down to that. When Jesus Christ said to Peter, he said, okay, Peter. I just got one question for you. Who do men say that I am? Well, some people say you're Elijah come back from the dead. Some people say you're this. Some people say, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I wanna know who you say I am in or out up or down black or white. Yes or no. Am I who I say am or ain't I?
And Peter amazingly, everything shifted and he said, thou art the Christ, the son of the living God. He got away from being the, the hard, hard and rustic fishermen. And he said something very profound. A matter of fact, most profound statement ever said from the mouth of man that didn't know much about education at all. Never been to school probably. I don't know if he even knew how to read or write. He may may learn little. I've read, some of his writings, by the way. They're in the Bible. And, very profound as a matter of fact. Of course, he'd been with God in human flesh. I suppose that would make it that way. But it comes down to there's just one question here. One question. You get that question right. And if you really believe the answer to the question, if it's the right answer, everything else in life, you'll be tended.
You'll be put it this way. You'll be right headed, right headed. Your nose will be pointed in the right direction. Yes or no? Is Jesus Christ who he says he is? Is he God in human flesh? Is he the Christos, the Christ, the son of the God that is alive as as as contrasted with all the law givers, all the gods that are statues and icons and and people holding high office like the Pope or the president of the Mormon church, or who who's the final decider of right and wrong here? The final arbiter that isn't obligated to tell you anything but right and wrong. We can tell you why if he wants to, but arbiter. I mean, he like a jury, they give you the verdict. That's it. They're not obligated to tell you why they can't, if they want, but they have no obligation. That's the way our, our maker is. He has no obligation to tell you anything. He doesn't want to, except he's chosen to tell you right from wrong. And he's given it to you in two volumes, the laws of nature unwritten in the nature of creation. We've talked about it a while ago, for example, the laws of genetics, the laws of crystal formation. Everything operates in our created order, seen and unseen according to exacting laws. The laws of nature, our common law being a slice of that. And the laws of nature's God, the Bible. He's given us that. And sometimes he does tell us why he does what he does, but there are a lot of things he does not, he does not tell us, but he made us. He knows how we operate. And if I were gonna buy a new automobile, new pickup truck, a new rifle, a new lawnmower, I'd get a book with it. And it would tell me how to operate the thing. It wouldn't tell me everything, but it give me the fundamentals so I know how to deal with some fundamental things. Well, God's done the same thing. He made us, and he gives us a book. He made and he gives us the laws of nature around us to apply it to. And the two are necessary. You can apply you can apply what he says in the book, which is final, right, by the way, the final court of last resort to your environment around you, the laws of nature, the laws of nature. Well, Roger, that's what I see what's with what's going on with DJ Trump. We're we're at war, as we always are. We always have been at war. We remain at war.
And, those of you that think that Trump is gonna gonna be the messiah and solve your problems, think again. He won't. He's only gonna be there shortly probably. And he's not the messiah, but we have a reprieve. God uses men like him even when they don't know it, of course. Maybe he knows some things, maybe he doesn't. He's not he's not a paragon of morality. That's clear. That but as I like to say, I think I said this last week, he's not Sunday school
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superintendent. He's president of The United States. Back to you, Roger. Well, you know, the unusual thing about mister Trump as you look back on it, and I talked to the audience here about this, he's gotta be one of the cleanest guys in the country. He's been through he's been through two impeachments. How many trials did in the warfare thing? Five, four, five? Yeah. Yeah. If they could have brought any found anything detrimental, they would have brought it forward, and, evidently, they couldn't find anything.
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Well, they did bring a lot of things forward in the first, when he ran the first time. And what they point out was that he wasn't a criminal, but he, he was, well, he was just, male. Maybe that's the way to say it. That's a good way to put it. I'm very male. Yeah. Very male. But, you know, people are hungry for that. See? Because, the whole world is going female. Yeah. Well, it's the females that are hungry for the male thing right now. That's right, too. That's right, too. But the more that we have the female and the upfront positions in Congress on the news shows, showing their legs and doing all the things girls like to do, and men like it too, of course. Doing all those things, getting the money coming in, trying to get the ratings up a little bit.
All those things, the more they're upfront, the more men will act like women. The more they will talk like women. I'm shocked. I've talked to young people about this. The way women talk, women talk like women, they don't talk like men. And of course, if that's all you hear talk, you'll talk like a woman. It's getting that way, by the way. Men aren't talking. Women are talking. And so the the speech of men, you know, coming up in America, younger and older too, is rather limp wristed. It's rather light in the loafers. It's rather faggy. Yeah. And that's not a good sign, but the more that that happens and by the way, just to point out, again, Roger, we come back to this often because it is fundamental.
Isaiah says when women and children rule over you, that's what we have. That's what we're having increasingly. That's the judgment of God. And and the women, the women, God will not judge them for that. He will judge the men. That's what the Bible teaches. Unfortunately. One of you street here. What?
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Unfortunately, that's true. You know? And I've mentioned this to you years ago, Brent, when I was in Argentina. Uh-huh. And, Christina Kirschner was, Kitchener, whatever her last name was, was her husband had been president before he died. So she was a senator. They were married. She moved up into the, president Presidenta. K? Yeah. So because we got these male and female things, in Spanish. So she's Presidenta, and, she went out. The first thing she did was give all the school kids in the country those little eight inch comp portable computers that used to be around. Yeah. But she gave one of them to everybody. Oh. To the to the school kids. Yeah. And then she got an app written for cell phones where they could go into stores and see high prices and take a picture, and it would automatically send it to the government because they were inflationary.
Well, they're the ones that are pumping all the money up. The retailers got no choice to raise the prices or go bankrupt out of business. So there it was right there. They'll rule over you, and she's using them, and they'll be your oppressors. And they were when she was in office at eight years down there. Yeah. When she got the day she left Yep. And they got a guy Macron in, who was the, ex president of, one of the big soccer teams down there called Boca Juniors. And, so the day she got out, she was from Southern Argentina. And this is on zero edge, man.
They had pictures. They had twenty one Brinks trucks go to the airport and come back loaded with cash and with the pocket in the bank. Pictures of it.
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21.
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20 one bridge trucks. I reckon. Does that make a guy happy? I don't know. I I guess. Yeah. You know, this this wealth thing is it's the wealth thing that corrupts people's minds.
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Well, wait, Roger. Now we've been through this. You know what I'm gonna say. It's the love of the wealth that corrupts people. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Not the wealth itself. It's an inanimate object that can't do anything. It's neutral.
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It's a tool. What makes them think they can be gods? See. Yeah. We have a few people. Do you remember there's a rabbi about a hundred years ago? He was the, the head rabbi and had a lot of publicity named Stephen Wise. Have you ever seen his name? Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, he was a real Zionist, you know, hook, line, and sinker. And he's the one that came out public. He said, the Jewish people are their own messiah.
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Well, no. I get the point. All false religion will have a false Messiah. And a lot of times, you know, I read a book years ago called, the Messianic Nature of American Education. In other words, people were saying, and I still hear this said sometimes, education is the answer. No, no, no. Education is not the answer. Depends on what education you're talking about. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, come on. And then also of course, the only real answer is Jesus Christ. There is no other answer. Yeah. I remember reading a story years ago about, but if a people, a false religion will say, well, we are our own Messiah and all that. I wrote about a fellow, he was a German fellow in Germany.
And, he survived the war. He was a prominent man, an influential man, a public man. What stuck in my mind was not who he is exactly. I guess it'd be nice to remember all those things, but he was sitting at Bresnan or someplace and looking out over what was a city. Nothing but piles of rubble, you know. And, of course, the whole country was devastated and it's been seventy some years now, and the country is still gone. It's going downhill more. And, he said, if Jesus Christ isn't real and if Jesus Christ doesn't matter, or he sat and looking at the rubble, he said, nothing matters.
That's my conclusion after the war, nothing matters. This is crazy. How could this happen? Well, God is sovereign. That's how it happens. And then you got to ask yourself why and try to come up from his word, his revelation, why these things happen. I think that it becomes pretty obvious. There's some, some overarching reasons that, that you can always cite and that'll get you started and that'll relieve some tension in people's, in a, in a, in the mind. Number one, God does everything he does, everything he does. I mean, there's nothing that happens that he doesn't allow to happen or cause to happen or both. And you can look at it either way. It really comes down to the same thing. God's behind everything, the true God, the creator of all things.
Why does he do what he does? Why does he allow it to happen? What he allows, however you want to frame it. He does it for one reason, to glorify himself. To make himself look in the eyes of men and angels like what he really is, and to bring it forward so that they will praise and worship him and no other. That's what it comes down to. That's what the Bible says. The glory of God, the glory of God. I will get me. God said, Yahoa, his name. I will get me honor on the back of Pharaoh. That's what he said. I set Pharaoh up just so I could show how I could tear him down. That's what he said. That's what he did. He proved it. Then the record of history is irrefutable.
It's overwhelming embarrassment of evidential Our Bible is an overwhelming embarrassment of evidential fact. And the evidence that supports its veracity at the manuscripts and the number of them, the sheer number of them and the consistency between them is so overwhelming that it's impossible for anybody who is being honest to deny what the book says. Matter of fact, the best attested evidence in all of ancient history is the Bible. There's not another set of writings that even comes close to having the evidence behind it that the Bible has. When I say evidence, I don't mean in archeology. I mean, manuscript evidence.
Now, if you can get the writings, the, the Greek historian tactus, technetus, if I said it right, People just take that for fact. They Josephus. They take that for fact too. Oh, it's just fact Bible. No, we got to tear that apart. Did you know Josephus and Tacitus and those fellows, which have given us historic evidence that is reasonably reliable according to all the rules of evidence. But in each of those cases of all the ancient Greek and Roman writers, they would there's never any more than anywhere from about six at the most. No six to about 20 manuscripts of their writings available to us. And among those manuscripts that are available, there are woefully inconsistent, all sorts of variations that change everything.
The Bible doesn't have six to 20. Matter of fact, the piece of ancient literature that has more manuscript evidence than any other except the Bible is the, the Iliad of Homer. The Iliad of Homer was written about August and there are about 600 manuscripts of the Iliad of Homer. That's more than any other ancient writing except the Bible. How about the New Testament? How many manuscripts do we have with that in the original tongues? Almost 6,000. Almost 6,000. And they hardly have any variations at all. Matter of fact, you could take all well, there are variations that would make a difference. Right? You take all the variations and put them on a 10 type on a half, page of, half a page of, typing paper, and those variations wouldn't change anything. There are, you know, things like, a word would be spelled with one vowel different or something, that kind of thing. There are variations that don't don't have, don't make a difference. But in the Iliad, the variations make a difference in the facts, but not in the Bible. Not not in the Bible. And even those that hate the Bible admit that the variations do not change any fundamental doctrine, any, anywhere.
And, so we have this evidence that is irrefutable. We, that means it's, it has no error of fact. We can rely on it. And when the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the son of God, you say, well, that does say in his God. Well, if God is your father directly by the conception of the, of his spirit and he is spirit, the Bible says, if that's what it is, then the godhood of Jesus Christ, that's the way he was conceived according to the record, which is irrefutable, but that's the way he was conceived. The God, his godhood is infinite.
The Godhood overwhelmed almost all other things. He become primarily, he becomes foremost. Oh, Steve becomes overwhelmingly things in the Bible says he is Jesus Christ is the creator of all things, but it comes down to that one thing. People say, are you a creedal Christian brand? I say, yes, I'm a creedal Christian. Well, what do you mean by that? I mean, the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the son of the living God. That's my creed. And that means he is, he is a member of the Godhead. And we can follow that through more, but right now it's enough to know that people fell down and worshiped him. And he didn't say no, which would, if he, if he hadn't been God, that would have been a violation of the first commandment. Thou shalt not have no other gods before me. Jesus Christ accepts all worship for the godhead. As a matter of fact, and all authority in the godhead of three persons has been delegated to him in land and in the sky, all judgment and all authority.
And he doesn't give it to anybody else that way. No. Not all of it. Not all of it. And and the pope of Rome says he has it all, and his official proclamation says Jesus Christ has given him all authority down here on land. He hasn't.
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That's Well, I sure wouldn't want that time for Argentina ruling over me. I'm telling you.
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No. I have the same Bergoglio? Yeah. No. I have the same feeling. Well, Roger, just wanted to say that here's what I'm gonna do if it's all right with, you and Paul. Is Paul still there? Oh, he's always here. Okay. I was gonna just say, well, about ten minutes till. I wanna talk about commonlawyer.com, and I want you to give you a website as well, Roger. Oh, well Why don't you go ahead and do that? Give you Well, I was thrilled last night because,
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Dave David asked me, Dave and Kaye down in Alabama, if I could promote their website. They've spent a lot of time setting up, and we've got Myrka with her Telegram channel and all those kind of things. And I'll be darned if Jeff Rents did come up with it. He'd gotten that somehow, I guess, off my website. And so I I got to to promote Dave and Kay's channel on his show last night and, of course, ours. And it's the matrixdocs.com. And it's, it's a hastily put together website out of necessity a couple of years ago because we didn't have one. And Paul came along and took this stuff and threw it all up there. I mean, we didn't take a bunch of planning and scheming. I'm sure there's some of that involved, but generally, just thrown up there out of necessity.
And, we haven't gone back and changed it. And I I'm more the on the information. Oh, that's a really slick website. Okay. Great. I I I want the information there. K? It's just the way I am. So that's, of course, the matrix docs, d o c s or d o x. Slick Paul here has got it set up where even if you misspell the thing, it'll get you there. Okay? A clever a clever turn. And, so that's us, and we're here to answer your questions. I mean, we're here to talk and do radio and have a good time and, cover very interesting topics and subjects if we don't have the main stuff in front of us, which is students asking questions. How how I can't understand this. Well, that's what we're here for. But if those folks aren't here, then we're gonna go off and cover other stuff, and we we must be doing something right because these people keep coming back, Brent.
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Well, we hope we don't run them off. I mean, it's one thing. You wanna tell the truth, and, you're gonna get persecuted for telling the truth to varying degrees, but you don't wanna just make it worse on purpose. You know? You just wanna say the truth best you can and hope that you can keep saying it. Well, that's thank you, Roger. Did you give your website, though? Yes. Dmatrixdocs.com.
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There you go. D0x or d0cs. Either way, as I said, Paul's cleverness, preempted a mistake. So good on you, Paul.
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Okay. Well, this is Brent. Brent Allen Winter is commonlawyer.com. W w w Common lawyer Com. And you can go to the website and take advantage of the resources there. You can attend church with us on Sunday morning on the Internet. Just use your cell phone, your iPhone, or your your computer, and you can see me, but I can't see you. But you can, chat and communicate with other people. We're going through the book of Jude on Sunday, Apostasy, the Unforgivable Sin, the theme of the book, the la next to the last book of the Bible. That's important to note, I suppose. But anyway, apostasy, the unforgivable sin, and how to stay away from apostates, people that have committed the sin. That's the theme of the book. And how to recognize them more importantly.
How to recognize them because they're dangerous. Once you've committed the unforgivable sin, you don't care anymore. By the way, I tell people, Roger, if you think you may have committed the unforgivable sin and you're sweating over it, don't worry about it. For the people that committed the unforgivable sin don't care. The devil doesn't care anymore. He's apostate. He he's committed the unforgivable sin. His demons also, they don't care. It's just do whatever we can. It's just pedal to the metal. Like the Biden administration. I don't know if you noticed, Roger, but the Biden administration, they had the pedal to the metal.
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Anything goes. Of course. As quick as they could do it.
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Yeah. Like one fellow said, we saw nothing but clowns on unicycles. Every direction we look, it was just Yeah. Madness. We were living in la la land, and it was destroying the country, and they weren't doing anything. They were just sitting by, enjoying all the largesse, and doing nothing. Just letting it go to hell in a handbasket. Well They were stealing money hand over fist. Oh, yeah. Enjoying the largesse. Yeah. The money. Well, you can go to commonlawyer.com and take advantage of the resources there. The winterized version of the Bible, a a common lawyer translates from the original tongues and annotates 35,000 footnotes approximately over 200 appendices, tracing major themes through the warp and the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible. You can get it in hard copy. You can also get it in digital form. You can do word searches.
But then also the book, excellence of the common law, 958 page comparative law text comparing and contrasting our law of the land, our common law with the law of the city. The civil law, the canon civil laws of Rome, which govern every country in the world in our day, except the handful, small handful of common law countries. But you can get a handle on that. I think people read it, to their home school, to their home school students, their children. It's not it's not above, above and beyond. And, I I'll admit I'm educated beyond my intelligence, but that particular book has been popular with homeschool moms. They read it to their children so every day. And, I get a handle on the two grand traditions of religion, law, and government in the world. The only two there are really. Everything is either tending toward the one or toward the other. And then also, you can take law classes there. Roger, you can take, law classes. We have many of them in the can.
The law school, Winters Inn, trying to teach the courses that I should have been taught in law school, plus courses common law courses I was taught, common law of evidence, constitutional law. Right now, we're teaching a course on Christian nationhood. Is it a reality in history? Has it ever existed? Are we a Christian nation? Do we need to remain a Christian nation if we are? How do you become a Christian nation? Do you become a Christian nation by official proclamation or by historic accident? That's those are important questions. Which is best, by the way? What's the oldest Christian nation in the world? Do you know the answer to that one, Roger? The oldest Christian nation. Army? That's right. Uh-huh. But, of course, that was by official proclamation.
That's Christian nation by. America is not a Christian nation by. It's a Christian nation by fact. This is just what happened to us. We haven't made any official proclamations. There our courts have recognized it. Last week, we went over the the case 1892, just Supreme Court of the United States Justice Brewer said, in making the observation, that's what courts do, make observations. He said, clearly, undeniably, America is a Christian nation. Well, that's easy. Of course, it is. All of our institutions, all of our education at that time, and it began to wane some after World War one.
People cite by the way, Roger, people that study the matter cite, America's decline as a Christian nation beginning in the year 1913.
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Oh, boy. And I I totally agree with them.
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Obviously, why? Because of the international influence of banking that came with the Federal Reserve Act and the income tax. But but we reached a peak according to polls, a peak of our Christianity in America, the people claiming to be Christian in 1975, Amazingly, I think that was a last push of Christian folk to say, no, we are Christian. And, we still are obviously our instant, our common law tradition for crying out loud is a Christian tradition And everything about it is comports and is compatible with the Bible. Everything that I see in it, and I've been involved in it for a few decades. Well, you can go to the website and take advantage of those things there. Commonlawyer.com.
Join us on Saturday. Join us on Sunday. Teaching through the book of Exodus on Saturday. And we're in the 10, the ten first principles of God as the Hebrew puts it. And,
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don't fill the audience. So Sunday, they're so entertaining to me, Brent, because you go off on all these stories and stuff, which we love to hear. And, and and then you mix the message in with it, and it's, well, if you don't have a church home, I've said it before, you ought to check out Brent on Sundays over on Patriot Him and Francine. Francine play us a song. Roger.
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Mhmm.
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Miss Francine's always with me. She got my back. She knows how to pick out good music. We play music. Well, she does. It's church. That It's church, and we've adapted to, technology technology
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to the whole church. She warmed the cockles of my heart last week. She warmed the cockles of my heart last week when she played that Japanese band playing jambalaya. Oh, they were fantastic.
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That was rich on it. They're good at it. They're really good. They work now. You know, there we've discovered. I travel a lot as you know, and I ask people. I have some classic questions I ask. And, of course, every people I meet that are new to me, they never heard me ask these questions. I've been doing this for decades. And mrs. Brent, you know, she watches me do this. She she's used to it. She's heard it all, but I'll get to talking to somebody at a gas station, cash register or something. I'll say, say, I'll ask you a question. Yeah. What is it? You got do you got religion? Do you got religion? And, you get all sorts of answers.
But some people say, of course, they'll say, yes. I'm a Christian. Well, what kind of Christian? I mean, you're a bible believing Christian, but we're gonna have to quit. I hear the whistling. Well, no. We gotta let we gotta say goodbye to Chicago or England or somebody. So we'll pick this up memory peg where we are right there, Brett.
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Right. Okay. We've gotta say goodbye to Radio Soapbox brought to us by our buddy, Paul, across the drink, across the pond, whatever. To follow us in at the second hour, please go to eurofolkradio.com. You can go to the matrix stocks dot com and, click on the Global Voice Network, GVN on Podholme link. That'll take you right to the radio stream. Or you can join us live on the show using free conference call with the links that are there. Thanks so much for joining us, Radio Soapbox.
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Ciao ciao, folks. Ciao. Brent, Where you remember where you were because I've got something to inject here. Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Well, inject it, and then I'll pick up. Okay. Well, the other night, I was listening to, some of Paul's our buddy Paul's shows. And not this past week, but the week before. And I think Paul our Paul here, Beaner, was distracted that week with truck something or doing something, and he wasn't over there with him as much. Well, Paul is now investigating Black Stone's commentaries, and he doesn't know much about it. And and, Paul, you need to get a hold of Paul and tell him to get Brent over there, and he'll fill you in on Black Stone's commentaries because, man, it's interesting. Okay? And he was he was fawning all over him. He said, I've never read this in the first fifteen or 20 pages. He he loved his communication style and his writing style and all that stuff, and they need your information over there on that, Brent.
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Yeah. Well, Blackstone, four volumes usually. Oh, let me say this. At the outset, in case Paul's listening or somebody else, it's good to have, the lay of the land before you go to Blackstone a little bit. And, in the book, comparative law text, excellence of the common law, I have a complete section on Blackstone. Just to give the lay of the land to who he was, why he did what he did, how he did it. You know, he didn't he didn't he delivered lectures at Oxford. Mhmm. You see, way back in the in the thirteen hundreds, John Wycliffe, the more star of the reformation of the church and government in England, Professor at Merton College called them, still yet today, called the flower of Oxford scholarship, a doctor. That was a big deal, to be a doctor of the church. That would like being an apostle. He was all those things. Nobody could match him, but he finally got the idea that the Bible was final. The pope wasn't final.
The Bible is the final court of last resort, and he ended up translating the Bible into English for the first time. He didn't have the original manuscripts because the the fall of Constantinople when Constantinople fell in fourteen fifty three AD, the manuscript so many of the manuscripts, got out before the 80,000 Turks blasted a hole through the wall there, got in, slaughtered everybody, got out, and those manuscripts in the original tongues, the Koine Greek of the New Testament got to Europe. And within two years, Koine Greek was being taught at, the major universities in Europe. And Rome didn't understand. Of course, they universities are products of Rome. They wanna put their spin on the facts. See?
And universities were designed in the tenth century. First university of the the world was commissioned at a place called Bologna, Italy. Say today that that's baloney. That's a reference to the world's first university. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney, we say. Things like that. Well, Blackstone was educated at Oxford. Oxford was a university. It was a product of Rome, and the common law had never been taught there. The common law didn't have a place to be taught in England, and that's why the ends of court arose privately.
The pry, the practice of law in a common law country is a private endeavor. It, and the bar associations are private. Of course, there are always problems that come with that, but just be happy that our lawyers are not government employees like they are everywhere else so much. And they're getting that way, of course, in England more and more. Law is a private endeavor in our common law tradition and the heart of our common law tradition is private litigation between private parties. That's what our common law fundamentally is. The government's involved that ruins everything. That's why we don't need government to be involved, period.
Just stay out because when you get involved, you think you have to run it all. I know how you are now. DJ Trump's doing that a lot though, but he's exercising his powers to give executive orders to employees of government. Keep him He's a hell, he's a hell of an administrator
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right there in front of everybody.
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And and those executive orders are not to you. They're to employees of government. That's what executive orders are. And he's issuing orders to stop a lot of stuff, not to make, not to pass legislation to get more government stuff. You know, the old thing Reagan plowed the ground for DJ's drop. Yes, he did. Grace Bush. Ron Paul. Right. Yeah. Ron Paul plowed the ground in a lot of ways. Yeah. One sows and and Ron Paul sowed, and they sowed and plowed and sowed. Another reaps.
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Maybe this is the time you can reap. Well, maybe so. There's a whole movement to give Ron Paul the medal of honor, especially after Biden, gave it to the the scum that he did. So you may see that pretty quick. By the way, here's another interesting. They're floating Ron Paul to be head of the Federal Reserve. Trump has put, there's a there's an act in Congress to nationalize the Federal Reserve, and Trump is pushing it. He's Yep. He's fired 50% of the IRS employees and closed a 20 offices.
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Good gravy. Well, that's good news because Congress, not the president. According to our constitution, Congress has the power to collect taxes. Ain't that amazing? Correct. Well, why don't I but let's get I've got a lot to to talk about here. I appreciate and I like to talk about this, but I wanna finish what I was talking about before. Okay. Go back. Yeah. And I was talking about I'd ask people questions, you got religion, and then we get into other conversations. And I discover that there are a lot of Christian folk out there that are Bible believing Christian. When I say Bible believing, I'm talking about the Bible is the court of last resort. That's Bible believing. If you say, yeah, I'm, I believe the Bible, but I believe in church tradition. I'm a Greek Orthodox and all the, these icons out here. I like to venerate them and they, they split this hair between veneration and worship and all that baloney.
Get out of here with that stuff. You know, I, I wanna make another comment about Greek Orthodox. Greek Orthodoxism and Romanism is growing in our country. Yeah. And, the Greek Orthodox, the people that are even the well known leaders in Christianity are going to the Greek Orthodox church. Hank Hanegraaff, the Bible answer man for years on the radio of Dutch extraction. I believe he was a Dutch immigrant, if I remember right, when he was a boy and he is now a Greek Greek Orthodox and Francis Chan of the CME, not the Simi Valley, but, well, there's a, yeah, the Simi Valley, there's San Fernando Valley, then off, off to the side is the Simi Valley, which has grown real big now.
When I was out there forty years ago, it was just getting started. But, he was a famous evangelical pastor, a Chinaman from Chinatown in, San Francisco. Very much Christian man, Bible believer. Well, now he is toying with the whole idea of the Greek Orthodox Church. What's wrong with the Greek Orthodox Church? You know, people say the Greek Orthodox or the Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox, whatever Orthodox they want to call it. I guess it's best just to call it the Eastern church because all of fundamentally the church split into two parts and the Eastern church says we're the ancient church. We're the church that was there from the beginning. That's hogwash.
The church was one big group in the Roman empire and they finally split East and West and the Greek Orthodox church wasn't around until they split. And doesn't say that they're the ancient church. No. They aren't. And the ancient church didn't promote all the things they do. The mass, the sacrifice, the bloody bloodless sacrifice, the mass, like mass, like Rome. That's all a slap in God's face is spitting on Jesus Christ. That's what that is. Call it for what it is. If what Jesus Christ didn't did wasn't enough, then he's not who he says he is. What he did was enough.
Matter of fact, as the, as reformers used to say, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is sufficient for all men to pay for the sins of all men, but it's only efficient for the elect. That's right. Because he's God, as I said while ago, he has the infinite, he has an infinite nature of infinite worth of infinite efficiency and of infinite reach in what he does. And when he hung his head nailed to that post called the crucifixion, when he hung his head, his last words, do you remember his last words, Roger? Forgive them father. They don't know what they do. Close. That was close to the end, but that wasn't quite the last ones. The last words were it
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finished. Right. You got it. It is finished. Yep. Yep. Now that didn't mean some people say, well, in the Greek text, you, that means he's saying I am finished. No, no. Oh, no. I, it doesn't mean that. It means it is finished. What, What is the, the antecedent of it? The payment of sins. I came to do what I did and that word finished by the way, to even make this to drive this home even farther, that Greek word, that's the tongue God chose to communicate this to us in and originally written, means the extreme in all up. Here's it's a word that was written on receipts in the Roman empire. Oh, in to mean paid in full. Okay.
That's simple. Paid in full. What's paid in full. The debt for the sins of my people. God's people is paid in full. Is it paid in full for people that aren't God's people? No, it's not. It's not paid in full unless they, they appropriate, unless a person appropriates it. Let me put it in the terms of the Bible. Jesus Christ said all all that the father has sent to me, come to me. No provisos, nobody fallen through the cracks. All that the father, the other member of the Godhead has sent to me, come to me. And then he says also, and whoever comes to me, I will in no way, in no manner, throw out, cast out.
Ballo, throw out all that the father gives to me, come to me, period. No exceptions. This is God speaking here. He's speaking truth. The record is irrefutable and reliable. As a matter of evidence, all that, the father, gives to me, come to me and those that come to me, I will in no wise cast out. And he also says of all that in the, in John 17 of all that come to me, I lose none. I've lost any except he makes one per one exception. One exception. The son of perdition. Who's that? Judas. He's apostate. He's apostate. He's lost and there ain't no second chance. It's all over, but to cry in for the apostate, but he came, but Jude and Jesus Christ said, Judas came for ordained of God for a special purpose to betray me so that I would be delivered into my hands of my enemies so that I would give myself up for the sacrifice and the people that are the, the nation of priest Israel, ancient Israel did exactly what God wanted them to do thinking they were doing the opposite.
Listen, God will get out of you what he wants out of you. He gets out of everybody what he wants out of them, and he will glorify himself. Whether he gets them to do a crime like the Israelites or gets them do good. They are the nation of priests that produced and delivered to the rest of us. The Messiah that paid the penalty for our sins and saved us from hell. God, I mean, the for ordination and the ordination and the predestination of God. And then God turns around as he always does after he uses evil acts to get his will, he turns around and judges those that committed those acts. How often did God send the Babylonians to chastise his people, Israel? Well, a few times and other people too, by the way. And then he turned around and, not violated them for having done it.
Now you try to explain that and you won't be able to, you say that's not logical. It's, there's no violation of logic to say that there's no violation of logic. You have to understand. And I say this simply, you have to understand what a contradiction is. Logic is logic. It's not contradictory and contradiction is contradiction And contradiction is simply it's a matter of arithmetic or algebra. If you want to use that, a does not equal non a. A does not equal non a. And if you say a equals non a, that's a contradiction. But if you say a equals b, that's not a contradiction. You don't know what b is, but it it's not a contradiction yet. And when God says those kinds of things and does those kinds of things, it's not a contradiction.
I've often talked to Job of witnesses come by the house, you know, Mormons come by the house and they say, Oh, Jesus Christ can't be fully God and fully man. That's a contradiction. I said, well, how do you figure if I say Jesus Christ is God fully God, and then I turn around and say, Jesus Christ is not fully God. That's a contradiction. My friend a does not equal non a. But if I say Jesus Christ is fully God, and then I turn around and say, Jesus Christ is fully man. Well, that's not a contradiction unless you can show you can't show me it is. No, it isn't. Yeah. I'm not saying a equals non a. If I say that my name is Brent to one fella at a party or a get together, and I turned around to another fella and say, my name is Winters.
Well, the other fellow might've overheard me say that my name is Brent. And he said, no, you, that, that can't be. I heard you say your name is Brent. Well, my name is Brent Winters. Both of them were true. That's not a contradiction. I suppose those are just things to add. Maybe it'll relieve tension in people's minds, but the forthright statements of the Bible are clear. When, when Thomas saw the resurrected Jesus Christ, And he said, I don't believe it. And he said, here, take your hand and thrust it into my side where that Roman put that spear in there. And he said, look at my hands were in my wrist where they nailed me to the post.
And what did Thomas do? Doubting Thomas. We call him, right? Yes. He's from Missouri. He's from Missouri. The show me state. You got to show him here. I ain't going to believe it. And that's right. All that he needed a little evidence. He fell down on his face and he said, he cried out, my Lord and my God, addressing Jesus Christ. And by the way, the construction site of fella named, Granville Sharp, a Brit. Granville Sharp. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Granville Sharp wrote a wrong, long treatise on the right to keep and bear arms in England. That might've been where I heard about him. Yeah. And on the basis of that, our second amendment rest of it, he was just acknowledging the common law tradition, but he also was a student of new Testament Koine Greek. And he, he, fashioned what Greek Greek, students now call the grand bill sharp rule number two, the grand bill sharp rule number two, which says when you have two nouns in the Greek Koine Greek, new Testament or Greek, any Greek text, two nouns joined by the conjunction chi, and they're both in the same case.
They refer, they, they signify the same thing. My Lord, that's a noun, Lord and my God to us in the Greek text. Both of those are in the same case. And then, and is Kai in the middle referring as he points out in many passages, in many contexts, when you have that, that's the grant, the construction referring to the same thing. When Thomas said, my Lord and my God, these talk, he's addressing Jesus Christ while he's worshiping at his feet. Now you can't get away from that. And to be honest with the text, but that's just one example of which there are many, many, many, That's not a violation of the first commandment that he worshiped Jesus Christ.
That's the problem. That's the problem. Well, I'm coming back to talking to people and I ask them all sorts of questions. I got religion. And I find that people that grew up as Christian folk were introduced to the glorious gospel of God as children or teenagers, or became Christian folk when they were younger and have been committed to working within the context of a church of some kind. Don't go to church anymore. And I'll ask them, what do you go to church somewhere? No, they're they're apologetic or sheepish about it. They just say, no, I don't go to church. Why not? And I say, I'm running a poll, which I am. Why not?
People are running from churches all over the English speaking world. The same thing is going on in England, by the way. I've read the articles. I've read the articles and the periodicals about it. Same thing's going on here. What is it? Why aren't people going to church? The reason people aren't going to church, and this is my conclusion having conducted a poll for a few decades, is because they're sick, sick, sick over chicken manure. Fighting over chicken manure. That's what they're sick of. They're sick of fighting over things that don't matter to them. And here's the other thing they want. People are going to churches that are fully committed to the doctrine, the biblical doctrine that says that Jesus Christ is Lord of everything.
Everything. Yeah. Not just a church, not within the four walls. We don't do this on Sunday and do it something else throughout the week. No. Cornelius Van Till was from, Northwest Indiana, the large Dutch settlement up there. And Dutch people up there, historically have done what Dutch people like to do more than anything in the world. Can I give you a guess, Roger, what you might think Dutch people like to do? I I would have no idea put their finger in a dike. Do you remember last week when Paul was on and he read that book that and these two older ladies were describing all the different people in Europe and what they were like. Yes. Yeah. Delightful. It was delightful. You read the line about the Dutch people, and he said, oh, they're they're happy people. They're fat, well fed, or something. I don't remember what it was.
Oh, that's that's the picture you have. And, and, Washington Irving wrote that book. He was a Scotsman of in America, and he wrote that book about, the legend of Sleepy Hollow. Right. Right. Ichabod Crane. Ichabod Crane. He goes page after page after page describing describing this old Dutchman. Everything about him. That's why he's fun to read because he went into such detail, fascinated with this Dutch farmer that lived up old Dutch farmer lived up along the Hudson River to the North Of New York. That was a Dutch settlement. And, but what Dutchman you know, they say America the founders of America were made up of of three primary groups, the English Puritans, Congregationalists, and all those were Anglicans.
The Scotch Irish Presbyterians, the Scots and Scotch Irish Presbyterians, and the Dutch and the Germanic people. And the Dutch and Germanic people settled in New York and the middle colonies, Pennsylvania, primarily, not entirely, but primarily the English people were in New England, of course, and, and Virginia. The the the ones that supported the crown and lost the civil war in England settled in Virginia, like George Washington's grandfather. He supported the crown and fled to America to keep him getting his head chopped off. And then you had the the Puritans in New England.
And it said that when, the Puritans, the English Puritans got anywhere, the first thing they built was a meeting house. A meeting. Very democratically minded kind of people. You know, everybody have a voice, and we'll have a meeting. That'll solve everything. And then when the when the Scotch Irish, when they arrived someplace, the first thing they built was a moonshine steel.
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Yeah. That's true.
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Yeah. And then when, the the Dutch and the Germanic people got anywhere, the first thing they built was a barn. Yeah. That's fundamentally true. And those three groups did make up the fundamental population of America at its founding and set the course for our culture. Those three welded together in a in a in a very, well, a very good way. You know? The Dutch gave us a lot of things. The Scotch Irish gave us a lot of things. The English gave us a lot of things that have become the amalgamation of America in our culture. And that's been, intensely, and by the way, intensely reformed Christian culture.
Well, the Dutch people like to build barns and milk cows. They like to milk cows more than anything in the world. But, I find that even those people, they're they're weary. And they've got they they pride themselves, the reform people pride themselves on getting their doctrine wired right. And they get it so wired right. They get it so hardwired, and everything has to fit just right. They're persnickety about the details. But even they are finding that, this is what I'm getting talking to people. They're finding that the the, the lack of the involvement in all of life is offensive to them. And as Christian men and women, they realize that the Bible teaches Jesus Christ is not Lord of the church only. He's Lord of creation.
And there's nothing. I was going to tell you about Van Till. He was from Dutch extraction. He became professor at Princeton, the foremost proponent of what we call reform Christianity. What is reform Christianity? Well, that's the Christianity that came out of the reformation and it was a cleaning of the house, cleaning house. That's what they did. The reformation like DJ Trump's trying to clean the government. The reformation was, we got to get rid of all the Jesus junk, all the idols, the icons, all the trash, all the liturgy. Let's just get rid of that stuff and move on. It's it's waiting us down. We're, we can't even function anymore.
Too much regulation, too many, too much liturgy, and we're putting too much reliance on it and not enough upon what God said. That's the reformation of God's people. Well, people don't go to church and they, they want, but, but they do go to church. If they can find a church that says the Bible applies to all of life and it governs all, and it is the final word. As the reformer said, the final word for faith and life. There's nothing else. And the two volumes we have that teach that are the laws of nature. It's right in our declaration of 76, the laws of nature unwritten, and the laws of nature's god written. Now Paul said he's wanted to try to read Blackstone. Of course, I commend people to read Blackstone, because you can't understand their common law tradition, unless you have some kind of a, some kind of, a fixed point of, just common law reality. Of course, I would recommend to read my book first, My book first, it will give you a more American point of view. Plus it will give you, but of course I go back to England.
I keep saying it's a book. It's a book about really the culture of England and Britain, not just England, Britain, by a man that's, never been there. That's me. But I try, I found that, high school graduates can read it to their children and homeschool them. And they, they, they like it. It. Read that book. It'll give you a foundation. And then if you want to go to Blackstone, of course, you can go to Blackstone first, if you want, but Blackstone, Blackstone delivered his lectures in, at Oxford. Now, Wycliffe, I said, translated the Bible into English in the thirteen hundreds. And he had a two pronged attack to take his country back. I heard Paul, the Yorkshireman Paul say to me one time on the telephone or we were communicating somehow, maybe it was on the internet. I don't remember, but he just said, I want my country back. Yes. I just want my country back.
Yes. Oh, well I said, my light went on. I said there was a famous Anglo Saxon that said that his name was John Wycliffe. He was from Middle England, Mercia, and he translated the Bible into the Mercian dialect of English because he thought more Englishmen could read that than anything. And if you go to Bible school or seminary in America, you learn about John Wycliffe and how he translated the Bible. And that was really a wonderful story. But there's a lot more to it than that. He didn't just translate the Bible. He said this is a two pronged attack. And if we don't have the both the Bible and the English tongue, and the other thing we gotta have, but this is not gonna work and that we're not gonna get our country back. We've got to have the common law being taught in Oxford.
That was in thirteen hundreds about 1375. He said that the common law had never been taught in Oxford university. Why? Because the universities were the brainchild and product of the Pope of Rome back in the eleventh century. And the purpose of all the universities in the world is to put the code of Justinian of the Roman empire, the Canon civil laws at Rome at the center of the educational institution called the university. And they call it a university because it versus that's Latin for around it revolved, revolved around what, it revolved around the code of Justinian, the canon civil laws of Rome.
The granted, the claim to grant to the Pope all power on earth. Oh, he loved it. He put that at the center and he said, all the colleges like we have today, we have universities, uni. That means a unification of, all the things surrounding a center point. The center point is the code of Justinian, the pinnacle, they said of human reason and logic, not fact notice, not fact, but logic. And then all around it, we held the different colleges, the college of astronomy, the college of medicine, the college of later on geology when that became well known in the eighteenth century. All the colleges have to conform to this perfect standard of logic, the logos they called it. They even stole the name for Jesus Christ in the gospel of John. Everything has to revolve around to that to be consistent with it. Well, Oxford was the same way.
It had never been taught. Well, when the light went on in Wycliffe's head, he said, we gotta have the common law taught, not the Oxford's here to teach the law of the city, not the law of the land. And we gotta do that. So he said that had to be a two pronged attack. Get the Bible into English. Number one, number two, get our common law taught in Oxford.
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White Cliff was saying this in the thirteen hundreds?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, you go back and read his dissertations. I have a complete set, Roger. It's kind of fun. I have a complete set. It's in two volumes of the writings of John Wycliffe in English. See, John Wycliffe often wrote in Latin because that's the priestly language. He was trained in. He was trained as a priest and he wanted the priesthood to read it, but he was a great proponent. He'd be an Anglo Saxon. He said, we gotta we people in in England need to learn how to read their own tongue and in the Bible to know what God told them. So he he did a lot of writing in English and I got a two volume set. Now I can sit down and I can read some of his treatises.
It's slow going, but I do a paragraph at a time and I can get through it because the art English is, you can kind of pick it out, but it's not just exactly like ours, obviously. Well, but he, he did that and he said, we want, we gotta get the common law. And I've got a section, Roger. Again, the book excellence of the common law, a comparative law text comparing and contrasting the law of the land and the law of the city. I have a complete section on John Wycliffe. Now, no man understood this better than John Wycliffe. John Wycliffe said there's no way you can take we can take our country back with both of these. Why? Because the common law, the law of the land is the nexus that allows the Bible to be applied to all of life.
There is not called the land law for nothing. It's not about the city. It's about the land, the land, the Lord, your God has given you. He understood that. And I'll tell you something else that John Wycliffe understood. And this is why, of course, Rome, they tried to, tried to get to him to burn him at the stake, you know, but he beat him to the punch and died of a stroke. They buried him. So Rome sent some boys over to dig up his bones and burn them and hold a ceremony. Burn him at the stake, had a trial. That's how vicious the evil empire is. And they're still that way today? Oh, yeah. Never never. Oh, it comes out not just the church of Rome, but that's just one one expression of it. It comes out everywhere.
That the the law of the city. Well, he said that not until over six hundred years later with the common law taught at Oxford and just just with William Blackstone. Yes. But here's how it happened. Of course, the universities still don't teach the common law. And, you have to go to the ends of court in England to get the common law. It's a private, fraternity, kinda. You gotta go there. You can't go to the government to get it done. Oxford is very much entwined with the institutions of the powers that be in England. Of course. Here's what he did. Get this, Roger. This is the way it happened. This is the way God works. Wycliffe wanted it. Didn't happen until six hundred years later.
But, Blackstone was educated at Oxford. So he understood the law of the city. But then to be a to practice in the common law courts, he had to go, through the course of study at an end of court, which took a few years. So he knew that too. He was a common lawyer. He knew both systems really well. And so a wealthy Jewish merchant in England wanted somebody who could really do a good job, deliver a set of lectures at Oxford on the law of the city, the Canon civil laws of Rome and Wycliffe or Wycliffe, Blackstone. This is in the year 1765.
He threw his hat in the ring and he was chosen. And this was an endowment from a wealthy Jewish merchant. And his name was Werner, by the way, Werner. And, he ended up delivering the lectures on the law of the city, but he knew that this was his big chance to try to talk about the law of the land. So what he did was he said, well, the only way to really understand the law of the city is to compare and contrast it with this great antagonist, the law of the land, our common law. So all through his lectures, what he did was talked about our common law in England and how how it governed everything in in England and then compare it every time he'd bring up a subject, he would compare it to the law of the city.
For examples, he said in the beginning, that first volume, he said that the law of the city the law of the land does it this way. The law of the city does it this way. And there's no way you can understand this is true too. You can't understand the law of the land. It's an adversarial tradition. It's not understandable unless it's understood in an adversarial context with its great antagonist, which is the law of the city. So he Question. He, okay. Let me finish my sentence, and then you can, ask you a question, ask a question. And, that's the way he did it. He did it through the back door. And these volumes, which are his lectures printed, have become, the people call them commentaries on the common law. The official title is commentaries on the laws of England, but he he chooses the common law to put forward.
And, that's how that happened. And they're worth reading. And if you didn't read those in America and, anyway, Blackstone is quoted quoted in our courts from 1776 until 1892 more than any other authority.
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Wow.
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That that set the stage for our common law in America. And if you hadn't read it, if you couldn't prove you had read those four volumes, you weren't gonna be a lawyer even on the frontiers of America. The rest of the lawyer wouldn't allow it. Surprisingly. And that we hold on just a second, Annette. That was Abraham Lincoln. You've told that story about how you bought a a barrel, and then it was Blackstone's commentators. That commentaries, that's why he was an attorney. Okay? That that's right. He bought a barrel for 50¢. Sight unseen. Didn't know if it had anything in it, and he reached his bony long fingers down in the bottom of it, and he found some books. He pulled them out, and there's more beat up, wore out, and neglected copies of Blackstone, and he read them.
And next thing you know, he's trying to be a lawyer. Roger
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Okay. I'm Annette, hold on. I got one more insert here that I think is really important. This with Blackstone was the very first time the common law had ever been written down. Now that amazes me. What year was that, Brent?
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1765. That was the publishing of his lectures. Yeah. Holy smokes. He just, he talks about first principles. He doesn't, he cites a few cases. He said, just this is the way we've done it in England. I mean, even, Oh, it's just amazing talking about how the churches were established in England, that common law. And that's an important consideration and that system came to America. And I can talk about that more later, how we built churches and all over the rural America and rural America, became the the culture of Christianity from from, Pennsylvania, clear down the Ohio Valley, Kentucky and Tennessee, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Missouri, Oklahoma.
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Yeah. Kansas. It all it's all came out the same. All over, and especially in the South too. Annette, what do you got, dear?
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He said a name, and I I got past me. What was the name of the one that did the com or the that did the lectures, and he snuck in the common law in his lectures?
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Well, that was William Blackstone. That's what we're talking about. And Blackstone's commentary Werner.
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Oh,
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Werner was the one that hired No. You miss misunderstood, or I may have missed both. Werner is the one that endowed Oxford with a lot of money to pay him to do the study and deliver these lectures. Oh. He was a wealthy Got it. Rich merchant. It's In the front of in the front of Blackstone, Verner has a comment or he or they they attribute the lectures to Verner because he's the one to fund it, but he did not intend his money to be used to promote promote the common law. He intended his money to be used to promote what was central to his religion, which is the law of the city. Uh-huh.
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And see, Blackstone kind of Blackstone kind of fooled a fast turn on him because he said, well, the only way, and I think he's right to teach either one of these bodies of law, is to compare them against each other and their differences. Yeah.
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Yeah. No. That's right. He Blackstone is clever. And, you know, Annette, hold your question and I'll quit in just a second. Blackstone then was appointed after he wrote those volumes. He was well known. He was appointed to a judgeship and, lawyers in England said that he was one of the, he was a terrible judge. And I'll tell you why he's a terrible judge. And I say this from personal experience, he wasn't a terrible judge. They said that about him. And the reason they said that about him is because he knew the law so well, the common law, he wouldn't play ball and he wouldn't compromise. And if you won't play ball and punt compromise, the rest of the lawyers will say you're no good. That's the way it works. Yeah. I know. I've been there. But go ahead. The question.
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I found I found my answer. It's, v I n e r.
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I was just wondering the spelling. I thought it Well, I'm glad you said that. I would have misspoke and said it was v e r n e r, but, whatever you can find on the Internet is better than what I can come up with probably.
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While we got it open, is there anybody else in the, in the audience that had any questions or comments for Brent or myself?
[01:37:50] Unknown:
How much cheese should I throw at Dutchman? That's what I want to know. Who's here?
[01:37:55] Unknown:
Hey, man.
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I've just been walking around listening to the last hour or so. It's absolutely marvelous. What a it's just fantastic. It's great. I've been walking up and down, and it's the, you know, I've got a little cold as you can probably tell, but, it's just spectacular. I I I can't wait to get around to Blackstone. I've just got this small little pamphlet by some pest called Brent Winters to get through a mere 990 pages or something. So once I've once I've got through this little pamphlet, we'll get stuck into a proper book. Good grief. It's, no. It's fantastic. What a great exposition, Brent. That was marvelous. I learned an awful lot there over that that past hour. Brilliant. Well, we've talked about that before. And when I was listening to your show
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week before last and you're stumbling through there, and I'm going, Paul, man, we've got the answers to all this. And it's a wonderful story, you know. And so that's what I was telling Paul to get a hold of you until you get Brent on, and he can cover this for your audience as you've heard for the last hour. Hour from soup to nuts, man.
[01:38:55] Unknown:
Yep. No. It's it's fantastic stuff. I was I was out with some people on Wednesday evening, couple of nights ago. They kindly bought me fish and chips. I just thought I would let you know. It doesn't mean anything in the great scheme of things. I haven't eaten any for a couple of years. And, they were they were pretty good, actually. And, but there was a gentleman there called Alan who I've got to chase up. He unfortunately, unlike you, Brent, he hasn't written a 900 page book, but I suspect there's one in him, possibly more than one. And we just got talking really about English history and about all of this this thread, this theme. And, there were some tremendous things that came up, really, wonderful things, really about the history of the church in these islands going back really to about thirty five AD, and, which is all to do with centered on Glastonbury. And then all of this route through the Druidic movements, which are often you know, Druids are often painted as dark and evil, but this is not the case. There would have been dark and evil aspects to it, no doubt.
But it's just like any of these sort of historical institutions or thought fields. They have good and bad in them. One of the interesting points that came up was the word law, l a w, and the other word law, l o r e. And it's the common law, as in l o r e, that we were talking about, which is the traditions, you know, the pragmatic applications of these behavior patterns under the laws of God. Whereas what was being discussed, LAW, is a separation of the law into three sections because it stands for these jurisdictions of land, air, and water, LAW. And, and I that's it. That's as much as I know. So as you can see, it's not a lot, but it's a lead in to actually exploring this topic. And what you were saying about universities, I was kind of familiar with much of that. I mean, universalism is a trait of Catholicism, and I've always felt that that aspect of it invalidates it because it's not a universal proposition as far as I'm concerned today.
So but tremendous stuff. Yeah. Really good conversations.
[01:40:58] Unknown:
Paul, maybe you can help me out. I've I've been looking for where the actual roots of land, air, and water is, and I haven't been able to find it. I've been I've been able to find the I've been able to find the origin of the word law. It came from, what did it come from? It came from, admit to lay down, to write, definitions, the roots, and all the all the different languages and stuff where it comes from, the derivatives. And I haven't been able to find anybody that that actually said where the root of land, air, and water is. Meaning I think that's a little bit of a glitch.
[01:41:52] Unknown:
If you wanna go back and start looking at the origins of the law, go back to a Roman guy named Gaius, g a I u s. And Gaius is the one that's attributed with the formation of the law in Rome, Paul. He's, reputedly, he he came up with the law by bending over a lake that was smooth where he could see his reflection and talking to himself with marbles in his mouth. I don't know if that's true or not. That's sort that's the legend. But you can go search. I think he was first person to write books on it, and those were called Gaius' Institutes.
And, and the whole first part of Gaius' Institutes is on the background concept of the word person. So the first set of law books, the whole first part of it is on the word person. You think it might be important?
[01:42:51] Unknown:
It's probably gonna turn out to be important.
[01:42:54] Unknown:
Yeah. The, I'm gonna throw in something else here and see if I get a reaction. And then I only know what I can dig out. And I'll I can tell you what I dug out about it, and then you can put it in the mix. I think it's in the book somewhere. But the way I get it, the Danes, which are the Vikings, bought words to Britain. Of course, they started coming over early on after, the earliest centuries and raiding the coast and killing, plundering, raping, and corp beer. They'd have to come a little further inland because there were nothing left out on the edges, and they just kept coming further. So, eventually, they decided they wanted to stay, and they went to war, of course, did you know. And then then they sit on the throne, some of them. They ruled the country.
But the tongue of the Danes, very much like the Anglo Saxon, those three tribes lived at the same place approximately up on the lower part of the Jutland Peninsula and and up into it, the angels and then just south them this or the Jutes, the angels, and then the Saxons. And, the the Danes had a different little bit different dialect. They had different words for mutton and sheep and a little bit different than the Anglo Saxons. And they had a word that described something that was heavy and had a lot of water in it. We used to say, but home, well, that's heavy. We'd say, well, that's waterlogged.
[01:44:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what it really is.
[01:44:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Waterlogged. And, the word log, what what I found was it's a Danish word, an ancient jute word, and they were called the jutes. And if something was heavy and immovable out in the woods and it was an old log laying there, it was soaked with water. It was called log. And so the idea of things that are immovable was log, and their their word was very guttural. You know, the the, they had a guttural speech like the the the Semites do. They had a lot of things down in the throat and, and, some other people. But they've if it wouldn't move and that's why I said a while ago, law is the way things are, and they ain't gonna change no matter what. That's what law is fundamentally.
And God's laws, the true God, the maker of all things, has made his laws that way. They he doesn't change. The Bible says in Hebrews chapter 13 that he is the same today, yesterday, and forever. And what that refers to, to say somebody's the same, that means they aren't fickle. They don't change. The gifts and callings of God, says the Bible, are without any change of mind on his part. Repentance. Without any change of mind. What he has decreed will come to pass, period. And our forebears on the North Of Europe before they came, those all three of those tribes came, plus the Celts, which came from the same place, a lot of them. They all had this idea that once something was written down on a on a piece of bark or a piece of wood called a rune that, the the shaman claimed he could write things.
Once they did, that happened, it was unchangeable. Unchangeable. It was law, law, and their God was veered. We still say that word weird. We don't pronounce it as hard and harsh. They were harsh people that lived in a harsh environment and were rough as a cob, as we say here in The States. And their speech was that way. And Vird was their God. And their God, they said of Vird, once his decrees went out, and it had two decrees that went out. He had his good spells. We call that gospel. Today, they use that word to put it in the Bible and our translations and the bad spells, the curses and the blessings, the good spells and the bad spells. And once he put those out, there was no change in them. But it is fascinating to end with this. That's law. It is fascinating, to me that in Beowulf, which is the oldest piece of, Anglo Saxon literature, available. And if there's an older one, somebody tell me. I haven't found one.
But, it professed to be as old as it is. It says in there of Beowulf, who Beowulf is that that's the old old, Germanic word for bee and wolf, because they called a bear a beowulf because he was always a bear is always trying to get in, get honey. So they called him a beowulf, but they said Beowulf. And this man's name was Beowulf. And Beowulf says in his ancient, about his ancient religion that the decrees of veered do not change. And then he has this, unless a man doty be. Now there's an old word that probably Paul I'm guessing, Paul, you can tell me that you still use in the old country. I'm thinking dotee.
But, what do I heard go ahead.
[01:47:54] Unknown:
Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I I we would say dote. To dote on something. Oak. D o t e. That's how it's pronounced over here anyway. Yeah. So to dote to dote on someone, to have a longing for something or to provide I mean, I'm just making this up. I haven't really got the definition in front of me, but that's my experience of it. You know, to to provide consistent attention on a thing and to think about a thing deeply, to dote upon it, almost to the point of harming yourself sometimes. Yeah. So if it was a male female thing, you'd say you were sweet on her. Yeah. And you're doting on her. That's right. Well, it's it's fascinating to me then that a Saxon
[01:48:30] Unknown:
who lived on the continent wrote a song. And he said, he said, that word above all earthly power, no thanks to them, abideth the spirit and the gifts are ours To him who with us sideth. To him who with us sideth. You ask whom that may be. Christ Jesus it is he. Lord Sabaoth his name. From age to age, the same. And he must win the battle. Who that may be? In other words, who is, and this to come from the paganism of of, of these ancient tribes to his realization, who is that man who Dothi be? Christ Jesus. It is he. See, there's a connection there between this ancient religion of these ancient tribes and providing a segue into Christianity. And it's no accident that when Christianity arrived among those people and the Christian scriptures were there by the time of Beowulf, because the, the, the saga of Beowulf refers to the two characters from the Bible like Cain.
And, so we know they had access to them, but God in his sovereignty being the sovereign God, he uses the, even those things from our old pagan past to draw us to the finally to the truth. The man, I like that title to put it in our own culture. The man who doty be well back to, back to whoever wants to talk and I'll take a breather.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
Paul? Paul, might tell you I did a very good job with mister Rintz last night. He's already booked me for next Wednesday and was highly complimentary in the email he sent me this morning.
[01:50:26] Unknown:
That's great. I caught it today, actually, on replay. Oh, did you? So it was very good. Yep. Yeah. Good good stuff. Great. It's a good platform. Hopefully, you can be on regularly.
[01:50:35] Unknown:
It will work out well, actually. A sneaking suspicion I'm gonna be their law teacher. We'll see.
[01:50:41] Unknown:
Professor Sales. I like this. That could be.
[01:50:45] Unknown:
I'm gonna try and get Brent on over there. I can tell you that. Tell Jeff, this guy you gotta get on. Okay? So we'll see where that goes.
[01:50:55] Unknown:
As near as I can find, law of the land, parenthesis, and air and water, close parenthesis, is a term used to describe legal issues related to the environment and natural resources. It could also refer to organizations and groups that work to protect the environment. That that just seems like a stretch. It just it seems like,
[01:51:20] Unknown:
It may well be. The I mean, the chap who was saying this, Alan, I've got to get back to him because I did say to him, you've written a book then. He went, no. And then somebody else chimed in, and they went, no. He hasn't, like, you know, looking at him saying, come on. Get a move on, with all that kind of stuff. And he doesn't have a website and all this, and I've got to have more. It's the first time I'd met him, and someone said, well, you have to meet up with him. Mhmm. And, I enjoyed it a lot. We were just covering a lot of topics very quickly. I mean, we spent quite a bit of time talking about Shakespeare, actually, and the invention or the addition of some it's 20 to 30,000 words into the English lexicon, courtesy of Shakespeare. And according to Alan, his group, it's very interesting who Shakespeare actually was, whether he actually existed as a real individual. I I don't think so.
Actually was, whether he actually existed as a real individual. I I don't think so. I think he's a creation, and the the main creator who did most, but not all of the writing, is Edward de Vere. I'm convinced of Edward de Vere. There is a society over here called the de Vere Society. And what they were talking about was that there was a group of them, and it was all to do with expanding the language. And how do you promote these new words by putting on plays and having people hear them? Because many of these words that the English were hearing for the first time in these plays, they'd not heard before. This this is a fascinating area. Of course, this is also the time of Francis Bacon. People think that Bacon wrote Shakespeare. I doubt he may well have been part of the team. Yeah. That's true. Bacon.
Yeah. So there's something astonishingly, intricate about what was taking place at those times. And this is also just after, John Dee, the court magician to Elizabeth the first. There's something about this period of history in England, but and also, just going back to the Inns of Court and I've gotta go and check all this stuff, so this is just from memory from the other night. But the Inns of Court came about just after Magna Carta in 12/15, and they were to do with creating these centers for people to begin for the for the barons as it were to begin to wangle their way out of Magna Carta. But they can't because it's in perpetuity. It's written down there quite clearly. And, this you know, I heard Brent say earlier, you know, that when we discussed something a long time back, I'd said, I want my country back. Well, to to a greater almost to a % degree, the the nature of this country is wrapped up in that document with if it's applied.
And, of course, they've spent eight hundred years since 12/15 nibbling away at it so that it's some sort of, apparently, it's a dusty piece of paper, but it's not. And, I think the restoration of it as a vigorous, dynamically applicable document is required. And I know it in part, you know, in a different way and focusing in different areas, Roger. That's exactly what your work's about as well. So we're not sure of the truth, and we're not sure of examples from the past when it's been applied effectively and correctly. And this is all tied in, of course, with trial by jury and the true power of a jury as, you know, described and laid down in Magna Carta. Juries are the most powerful law agency that you can have.
So so many interesting aspects. Plunging into this now after not really looking at it for years, but just a whole series of conversations are coming together. And, I am fascinated with Shakespeare as well, particularly as I keep reading it and not understanding it. And this is still going on to this day, you know, because the language is a barrier. Yes. But there is a purpose in it. And it's also linked through to the King James Bible because they were they were designing words to go through into that in parts. So but this is a bit garbled, what I'm saying. I accept all that, so I need a little bit more definition. So, hopefully, over the next couple of months, I'll be able to get some and add a little bit more sensible meat to the bone of it, but there's definitely a lot going on there.
[01:55:11] Unknown:
To throw out another point about Shakespeare, and I haven't followed through with this, but I've always read that Shakespeare did not quote King James Bible. He quoted the Geneva Bible when he in his play. Yeah. I think he did. Yep. Yep. Well, here's here's an even more pressing point to me. When you start to talk, Paul, the image comes up of what looks like an a fried egg. And
[01:55:40] Unknown:
Hey. I quite like that. I like fried eggs, so I'm not offended. Go on. Okay.
[01:55:45] Unknown:
I thought, well, maybe this is some kind of a Yorkshire dish that that you've got a picture of here, and I I wanna know what it is. So I remind you of a fried egg. No. Not you. Not you. The the logo you have.
[01:56:02] Unknown:
The logo. Oh, the logo.
[01:56:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. When you're talking, it flashes up on Zoom.
[01:56:08] Unknown:
Does it? Oh, okay. I don't know about these things. I'm not looking at anything. I'm just listening to you guys. I try to not look at things when we're talking about it. A fried egg. My god. It's a fried egg.
[01:56:18] Unknown:
Yeah. But it has some symmetry to it. It has some green in it, like there's some kind of herb you put on it or something. Yeah. That's right. It's not right. It's actually the one It's a white rose. Oak in the middle.
[01:56:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a white rose of Yorkshire with a yellow the flower right in the center. You know, the the pollen in the center. So that's what it is. It's a symbol of Yorkshire. It's a white rose, and the symbol of Lancashire is a red rose, which is the county to the Is that the to the west of roses? Is this to go back to the War of the Roses? It does. Yeah. This is where it all comes from, the the the Wars of the Roses. But it wasn't Yorkshire men against Lancastrians. It's quite confusing. It's to do with the House of York and the House of Lancaster. There you go. And, many Yorkshiremen fought for the House of Lancaster and and vice versa. So it was a bit of a mix. It was to do with loyalties and to do with family loyalties. I've just been speaking actually earlier today to my brother-in-law, who was taunting me that he's going up to an extremely, excellent fish and chip restaurant tomorrow. This is this is the height of culinary cuisine in England, of course, but I don't really care. We are peasants, and we're quite proud of it. And he said, I'm sorry to tell you this, but I'm off to go and eat the most enormous haddock tomorrow. And I was a bit cross about this, but I can't get up there. It's 280 miles away, so I don't have a chance to get there. Too far.
[01:57:30] Unknown:
So were they fish and chips? Are they fish cooking cod, or you said haddock?
[01:57:36] Unknown:
Oh, no. You can get cod if you want cod. But, if you're a Northerner, you generally will eat haddock. It's a heavier fish. Oh. It's a tasty it's just a better to me, it's just a better fish. But I was raised on it, and then I started eating cold when I came down south. I went, this is tasteless in comparison Right. To me, anyway. Right. And Northerners could eat different as well. We take the skin off. So sometimes you go to a fish and chip shop, and they'll leave the skin on, the fish. Right. Yeah. And my dad used to get cross about this. He said, the cheating boogers, he said, the reason they do that is it stops the fish shrinking. So it makes you think you've got a bigger fish than you've actually got. All these little tricks. So my dad, my dad was cross about those. I'm not coming here again. It it would be enough to never ever go to a chip shop ever again if they did that. It was really funny and great stuff. Wasn't having any of that. Paul, you got something you're trying to insert here?
[01:58:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That is disturbing. I did actually find, other things. Law means love and wisdom, lawyer at work, language arts and writing. I mean, there's there's literally a plethora of, leads animation workshop, low activity waste. That's one of my favorite things I identified with that. Laser artillery weapon, landing weight, aviation, league of American wheelmen, ladies against women, local heirs' warring. Ladies against women. Against
[01:59:14] Unknown:
women. Okay. Oh, we can't I can't help them out with that one. That's that's beyond my powers. Sounds like a hair pulling contest to me.
[01:59:22] Unknown:
Yeah. American writers.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Live audio wrestling. Yeah. Let's do live audio wrestling right here on the radio I thought we were doing live audio wrestling. I thought that's fine. I thought this was it. Six days a week here.
[01:59:39] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Glad don't get any better than this. Boy.
[01:59:42] Unknown:
Well, obviously, there's the whistler, and that signifies the end of our public discussion. No doubt it'll go on after the show's over in a minute as we're apt to do, especially when when our friend Paul from across the pond is with us. So thank you very much. We'll be back tomorrow, of course, on the Saturday show. And, as always, we just really appreciate Brent and everything that he brings to us and Francine too even though she didn't play us any songs today. And then to have, mister English drop in as an extra special treat. So thank all of you, and we'll see you tomorrow. And if not tomorrow, we'll see you again soon somewhere. See you on Jeff Rents next Wednesday night in the second segment.
So, that's gonna be a good thing for us, Paul. I I've I what's how's Andy doing? What's Andy got going on?
[02:00:33] Unknown:
Andy's just recording every day. I I wonder how I'll speak to him. Maybe two weeks ago. I I nearly called him today because I saw he was online, but I just got you know, other things happened. So but I've gotta get around and have a chat with him. I think he's just working away. He does a sort of he does a recording every day. Does he? A kind of scanning of the news and things like this. Right. But, I've not seen him for years. We actually met face to face, but I'm trying to remember what it was. Probably about nearly eight years ago or something like that. It's a long time back. Uh-huh. But we did so many shows together over a period of time.
[02:01:09] Unknown:
But he's busy. Yeah. He's busy and focused on things. Well, I thought last week he was he was kinda taking care of his mom. Is is that over? Did she pass or or what?
[02:01:19] Unknown:
No. She's still alive. I think she's in a home now. Fantastic. Yeah. She's in a home, and she's much happier there. And he I think it's much easier for him. So he's very pleased. I think he was understandably a bit anxious about that, not knowing quite how it would work out, but it's worked out well. Yeah. Good. So, you know, it it got beyond his ability to cope with her, and, that's what I understand. But, well, you know, my main thing with Andy is I want him to go live, and he won't do it if he hears this. Really? You're very bad for the he he just he's so he's meticulous about his prep. So that's kind of what we do. And, I don't mind. It's great. That's his style. It's fantastic. I I'm always tempting him and saying, do you wanna come on live at 08:00? Oh, no. I couldn't possibly do that. I'll be in bed by then. Because he gets up really early and stuff. I'm going, what? Okay. What would you mean? He can't go bed at 08:00?
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Or or he is he on speak free or or or or or Soapbox? Or where where have you got him stuck now?
[02:02:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We put him on Soapbox, but it's an inhospitable time for you guys. It's 5AM. He's usually on. York, Eastern. We put him on that time. I'll try and put him on later on in the day. I mean, I never know how long his shows are gonna be. They so they're they're never more than an hour, and he still talks to Peter Hammond.
[02:02:30] Unknown:
That's the guy. That's the one I really like to hear, and Brent knows him. Brent many met him years ago, I believe. Right. He's a sharp guy, Peter Hammond.
[02:02:41] Unknown:
He is, you know, and he is. He's very sharp. He's great.
[02:02:45] Unknown:
No. Go ahead. You were starting to say something, Paul.
[02:02:49] Unknown:
No. That was it, really. I was just gonna say he was sharp and, I know he's had a he had a stroke. He knew? About yeah. He did about four or five months back now. And then, of course, he starts working like a maniac again. And, so I shouldn't fret about these things. Each man to his own, I guess. But, he seems to be okay.
[02:03:07] Unknown:
Seems to be okay. So Good. Well Yeah. I had met him and not that I know him well. I had met him a couple of times out at, in in Colorado, Loretta, and his wife is from Arizona. I don't know. I forget where they met. But nice folk. Nice family. That's what I remember about him. But to bring up something else, I just looked up the white rose of York, and this is no small matter. This is your flag.
[02:03:31] Unknown:
That's right.
[02:03:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm looking here. I've got more images than I could shake a stick at. And, of course, it's a beautiful flower, white rose. But then the first thing that came up was a picture of the flag, white rose of Yorkshire, United Kingdom's. Well, it's in the photos, you know, and it looks very much well, you've got the image from your flag. That's what I saw. That's what you put up. Mhmm. Yeah. I see that now. Wow. Boy, simple things like this. Well, I'm smarter because of it. I did not know that. And Well I wanna eat fish and chips, and I wanna eat what is it? What's oh, Yorkshire pudding. Ain't that famous for pudding up there too?
[02:04:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. I was raised on them. Wednesdays were Yorkshire was York at home when I was a a wee lad. Wednesday was baking day, which would always include Yorkshire puddings. And my dad, much to my and my brother's chagrin, not that we could have said that word when we were eight or nine, he would come back a little bit later or maybe at the same time, and his Yorkshire puddings were three times bigger than ours. Oh. He got specially and I would say to my mom, why is dad's Yorkshire pudding so big? She said, because he likes them so much. He's dad. So he gets big ones, all full of onion gravy. Yeah. Very pleasant. And, did Oh, like, back then, we would eat Yorkshire pudding just alone, just as a starter before you eat the stew and everything like that. They put it on the whole roast these days. But, the old tradition was basically you'd have it as a dish in its own right because, you know, we are culinary of a very high standard of there. We not really. But my my mom's home cooking was fantastic. So Wednesdays was was, she loved Wednesdays and hated it because she'd bake all these cakes and everything. And then me and my brother would eat practically everything if we weren't stopped.
Stop eating all that cake. We'd eat a lot, you know. Because when a chocolate cake or a vanilla cake or a Victoria sponge comes out and it's still warm, so you put the cream in it, the cream's slightly melting from the heat of the cake. You show me anybody that can resist that. It's not fair. You can't put that in front of us. It's not right. You know? So
[02:05:40] Unknown:
that's how it used to go. How about that delicious kidney pie?
[02:05:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Steak and kidney pie. Yeah. That's that's great stuff too. All the pies. I was just yeah. My brother-in-law was just talking about this stuff. We always end up end up talking about pies and buns. And I said, is this a theme forever? And I think, really, it is, actually. You go, well, you know, you've you've lived eighty years. What's the best bit? Well, actually, it's the buns, actually. It's the buns and the pies. And he just my brother had just sent him some curd tarts. I don't think you have these in The States. Right? Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So, they're unbelievable.
They're my favorite pudding ever, Yorkshire curd tart. And it uses, you know, from the curds and whey, and it's got raisins in it and a bit of lemon juice. I can't even begin to describe it to you. It's you'd have to look it up to look at them. And it probably doesn't even look that great, but I tell you, it tastes fantastic. And it's, oh, it's just a marvelous thing. So he was very, very happy and was bragging to me down the phone that he'd received two of these.
[02:06:39] Unknown:
I was about to eat one for lunch, and I told him to clear off because I don't wanna be taunted about that. It's not right, is it? Yeah. Go away, I said to him. Go away. Me. Yeah. No. It's not. Actually found a a good cottage cheese down here. I mean, I haven't seen cottage cheese in South America in sixteen years, and I like cottage cheese. And one of our, expat gals found a a variety in the store that's it's real good. I I was quite shocked, actually. So, anyway, there's a female trying to get in right there when I stepped on you. Who was that?
[02:07:10] Unknown:
It it's Annette. I have a question. If any, anyone wants to, put put in some comment on it. There's this thing as, chattel paper. Does anyone wanna comment on chattel paper and the
[02:07:29] Unknown:
UCC? Oh oh, chattel as in as in, property. Right. Uh-huh.
[02:07:36] Unknown:
Is that Is that what you Does it apply is it just to be, like, loans and okay. You put up you put up some type of, collateral and now or is it other just to go out from there?
[02:07:53] Unknown:
I've never heard of it before, Annette. So I'm gonna step back and let's see if Brent can feel that.
[02:08:00] Unknown:
Well, first first is good. I I like to start with the words. What do the words mean? Like, we were talking a while ago. What's law? That's by the way, Blackstone goes into detail in his first volume right at the beginning, what law is. I don't know what he he goes into the etymology of the word heard so much, but he tries to boil it down to make it simple. But chattel, there are only two kinds of property in our common law tradition. Our common let me put it this way. Back up. Slow down, Brent. Our common law tradition only recognizes two kinds of property, chattels and land. That's all there is. And truly, that's all there is. There isn't anything else.
Some people say chattels, they say movable, movables, and land is unmovable. So movables and immovables. Also chattels are called personalty and land called realty. We have different ways of saying it, but, in the past, not too distant past, all we ever said was land and chattels. Chatt chattel paper and the chattel paper is a piece of paper that contains information about, monetary obligation. That's fundamentally what it is. A piece of paper that contains information about a monetary obligation. So most often, you could talk about, for example, a promissory note, something that's held by credit, a piece of paper that is evidence of a debt. What's what's a piece of paper that's evidence of debt? A con Sorry. My last name. Morning.
A, a dollar bill, a a note, which is a a a a federal reserve note is supposed to contain information about a debt. But it's it's not a debt. It doesn't have to do with land. The best way to describe it, not doesn't have to do with land. It has to do with movables, personal property, personalty, not realty. And so chattel papers, any piece of paper that has evidences of, chattel debt. Chattel debt, personal money, grain. If you're gonna pay for your debt with grain, if you're gonna pay your debt with gold or silver, it's debt. What is debt? Well, debt, is contract.
Show me a debt, and I'll show you a contract. And you show me a contract, and I'll show you a debt. And I wanna drop this footnote because it's a misunderstanding in my humble studied opinion in the patriot community that taxes are debts. They aren't. Well, if taxes are debts, that means there has to be a contract, and that's what patriots say. Well, there is no no contract. No. There isn't. Taxes aren't debts. Lawful taxes are obligations.
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On the contract out of law. There's a contract when you sign a ten forty form.
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Well, they made wanna make it look like that, and you're probably right. But I'm talking about lawful taxes. Yep. So I I did make that distinction because I said, yeah. I know what it's probably that's that argument. But taxes that are lawful are lawful obligations. Obligations or duties, that's just another word for duty, duties arise out of law, debts arise out of contract. Somebody was gonna say something. Brennan, I was gonna ask you. Could you think you could consider hold on. Let me put the do you think you consider
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chattels, fixtures in real estate law?
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No. Fixtures that are permanently attached to the land are Non fixtures. Not I mean, non fixtures.
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In real estate school, they taught us, that a non fixture was anything that could be undone with a screwdriver in fifteen minutes.
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I like that. I like that. Yeah. It's clever. That's fundamentally true. We had a thing at home. Yeah. That's a good way to say it. We had at home, we had, corn cribs. And where I was from, the corn cribs, cheapest way to make them was out of rails. And so split people split rails and made pretty big corn cribs. And, then the question comes, you'd usually have a foundation. You'd have you'd put down large stones out of the creek bed as a foundation for the corn crib, or you pour concrete. Some people poured concrete. The concrete, the foundation of the corn crib is part of the land. And if you buy a piece of land and the contract doesn't say one way or the other, well, you got you gotta leave the concrete.
But, stones that are laid there, well, if they came out of the creek bed, they're part of the land. That probably would be part of the land anyway. But the corn crib itself, you could take that apart if it was a metal corn crib with the screwdriver, like Roger says. Well, that you could take that out there with a screwdriver pretty easy. Let's say you got a chandelier in a building. The building is attached to the land. So it's, it's real estate. And And we do distinguish to make this other distinguished, distinguish in point between real estate.
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You're breaking up a little Brent. Try and get closer to a router if you can. State and land and real estate is land that has had some development
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on it, but that's a matter of degree. And there's no what's that? What's that, Roger? I just Somebody there. You're breaking up.
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You're breaking up a little bit. If you could try and get closer to a router wherever you are. Nah. I'll have to just live it out for now, but Okay. You've been real clear the whole show, but it's just flipping a little bit now. Oh.
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Let me let me ask additional one additional question I'll yield. Does a warrant, is that a cattle paper I yield? Because they can come in confidence with your property.
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Yeah. A warrant, well, a warrant is not about taking title to your property. As a matter of law, I know that there's a lot of illegal thought. I Roger made the point about signing a ten forty. But whatever's lawful taxes, that might be unlawful. But let's get back because you're swearing. You're being forced to swear an oath. How lawful is that? But coming back to a warrant, a warrant is to seize possession of evidence. It may be or somebody wanted for a crime, sees a person's body or sees evidence. And, it does. It's not, it's not a court saying that the government, whoever sees in it, gets titled to it.
So that wouldn't be chattel paper in my, that's my initial response as far as I can see. Now that has nothing to do with debt. Now if somebody comes in and and and has a writ of repleben, a sheriff bust down your door Yeah. To take your property because you do owe a debt. Well, now Rogers say, I think you're going to say, yeah, that could be chattel. Well, chomping at the BIP because that's one of the eight common law remedies. Replevin. Yeah. Yeah. A writ of replevin. Well, that, that could be termed the chattel paper. I, as I think about it. Yeah. Chattel paper. Chattel papers have that are having to do with, monetary obligations, which is transfer of title, not just possession.
In most cases, that's the simple answer. There are always exceptions and other things. And I'm not giving legal advice. I'm just trying to dredge out of my mind what I remember from reading Blackstone. Now if you read Blackstone if you read Blackstone, he'll talk about these things. It's all in there. And I would suggest that every every man and every woman that's a responsible American should have the fundamentals of of our common law tradition in their head. And if you don't, you're a problem. It's our responsibility to know so that we may respect the, the rights, the duties of others. That's what a right is. And also we would defend our own duties and know what they are. How can you do if you're given a duty from God and that's where duties come from, rights, we call them duties.
If you're given a duty or responsibility, then with that ability or jurisdiction to do your duty. And if you're not willing to do that, you're part of the problem. You're spitting in God's face. You're telling the giver of the duty that it didn't mount mount anything. You're disrespecting your own God, and God's gonna discipline you and slap you in line. Don't make it hard on yourselves. Know the law. The law but I mean, the laws of nature are common law tradition, and the laws of nature's God, the Bible. You need as all of us, we need to be constantly
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Boy, it's tough when Sprint's dropping out like that. Whatever you said, we just all missed it, Brent. It was a total blackout I ain't in the loop. A couple of seconds. Well, you can, but now you're garbled.
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A matter of going out. Say, I'm going to go to school and learn time and you never know it all, but you're so, oh, Yeah. Now picture in the laws of nature is God is our responsibility. How can we do what we don't know? Don't fall into the Anabaptist position thinking, well, once I'm born from above, I got the spirit of God, the law of God's written on my heart, and I I just, I just know. No, you don't. And the Bible doesn't say it that way, by the way. No, no. You gotta learn it. You gotta learn, keep and do Deuteronomy chapter four. You gotta learn it and then you gotta safeguard it. And if you learn it, you will say, guard it and you will do it. That's your duty.
And you respect the rights of others. We can have order. We can have decency. We can have prosperity. Like we never thought if there's a critical mass of Christian folk that are committed to doing that, don't expect other people to do it. Expect them to follow you. The remnant has a response. Oh, do you do to do that? And if you're the solution, let's struggle. The struggle it's an enjoyable struggle, by the way, to know what God wants you to do and do it. Greatest joy in the world. Roger, can you hear me okay now?
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I hear you. You're still breaking up a bit. Lady Linda was trying to get through and she was real garbled. Linda, you want to try again and if not, reconnect and see if that doesn't clear it up. Now you're very garbled. Reconnect.
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No. You gotta hang up and re and and call back, Linda.
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We don't hear that too often. It sounds like you're under about 10 feet of water.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's a good good analogy here.
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Someone Is Paul Ingrid still there?
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I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm still here.
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Yeah. Paul, were you there?
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Yeah. I'm here.
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Rick? I believe that was Rick. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Go ahead, Rick. I think Annette was trying to speak. Go ahead, Annette. What?
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So the body of, you know, someone was, in a position where they overheard someone, said the judge called them chattel. And so this is where my question comes in. And and by by the way, they were detained. They weren't in jail, but well, they were detained. Let's put it like that. So so would the person's body be be, would would, is there is there a scenario where chattel paper could be part of the court system and the body of the person be be the object of, you know
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I I yield. That sort of deal. I yield. Well, the chattel is property. So their judge is saying that guy's property is what I take away from what you said. Brent?
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Yeah. No. I for example, a lien filed at the courthouse is chattel paper because it's evidence, a claim it's a claim of ownership of rights, duties, property. Mhmm. And, but your your body, as a matter of law, that's not possible. Now I won't I don't, don't deny for a moment that the evil empire and the useful idiots thereof think that and want that and act like that. And they think that, yeah, I'm I'm nothing but chattel for them. But that's not true as a matter of law, and it's our duty. It's our duty as Christian men and women to say no. No. I don't care what you think. I don't care what you believe. I don't care what your convictions are. I stand on the laws of nature, and the laws of nature's God. And, no, I'm not your property. My body is not your property. Go back and read the book of Genesis. What did the Israelites say? Well, first, Joseph got in power, prime minister, as it were, of the most powerful nation on earth. And, he put a a 20% income tax on everybody. Well, four hundred years later, that had driven the income tax, 20% income tax on production of raw materials, namely grain, had driven them into total slavery. Of course, that's what income tax is. It's a driving towards slavery coupled coupled with, the bankers.
So the bankers Federal Reserve tax position and then the income tax, it all goes together, usury. But I don't I don't wanna get into that. I just wanna talk about the simplicity of it. So they had that. And then they ran out of money and they said, look, we don't have any more money. We're starving. We've had bad years. They said to Pharaoh, you we'll sell you our cattle and our horses and our draft animals. And, they, he said, okay, cause we don't have any money to eat. We're starving. So he did that. He bought all that with with the wealth that they had given him, of course, in taxes. And then they said, well, now we're out of out of money for food. We don't have any cattle or we don't have any any money. We don't have any silver. We don't have any cattle. We'll sell you our land. He said, okay, sell me your land. So now the government has all their land, all their draft animals, all their silver in reverse order. Well, then they ran out of that food and they said, we don't have anything else. All we've got left is our bodies and we'll sell our bodies to you. That beats starving.
He said, okay. So they, so they sold him. They sold the government, their bodies, that's called chattel slavery. Yep. And they were enslaved in that way. Clearly it all happened. It started with income tax, income tax at the beginning of slavery, according to the Bible, And that all plays out. Then the emancipator comes in and, Yahoa got himself and pulls them out of that. But, your body, as a matter of law here in America is not chattel. And the more that Patriots go along with that kind of talk and listen to it and repeat it, the worse it's going to get. No, we, we should say, no, no, no, no. You don't own me.
Oh, you may say you do. You may say that, you've, you've, you've put me up as collateral and all that. No, you didn't. We don't, we don't want to even admit that in any way because that fuels the evil empire and their damnable lies For what it's worth. Roger, back to you.
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Oh, gosh.
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I've
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I've I've got to go. I've got a lunch appointment, and I always hate it because we get Paul here and Brent here, and we got this wonderful You've got to stop eating lunch, Roger. It's ridiculous habit. You gotta get out of it. What a silly habit that is. My body just doesn't agree with that, unfortunately. But, it's just such a pleasure, Paul, to have you drop by always and and add add your personality and your perspective here for what we do, and we love you. And, all the audience here, you're just all so special. And, of course, Brent and Francine, they're equally special. I think Brent's a national treasure, that has not been exposed yet and needs to be. Yes.
So,
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you know, we keep Could I leave you with with a little sort of I'm gonna pick a little comment and a clip? Yeah. I want to bring something into the show. This is gonna take a few a couple of minutes. Right? Okay. Well, that's fine. It's kind of it's slightly on on track. I I played a clip in my show last night, and it's to do it was it's taken from I don't know if you get it over there. There's, a series of novels that were written here recently by a woman called Hilary Mantel. And, the first one is called Wolf Hall. I don't know if that rings any bells with anybody. But it's to do with, the court of Henry the eighth.
It's to do with the origination of the Reformation or the devastation to call it give it its more accurate term. Is fascinating. It's an extremely evolved and learned piece, and it's been turned into a TV series. And I think there have been two series so far. And and the main pivotal character is, certainly in Wolf Hall, I don't know how the other two novels go, is to do with the rise of Thomas Cromwell who became, yeah, he became the Henry's right hand man after, Wolsey was unable to get Henry's marriage annulled with the pope, and Henry was not too happy about this. Cromwell then steps in even though he defended Wolsey quite loyally and slowly morphs his way up the ladder of power. Anyway, I was watching the the third episode the other day. I've only watched half of that episode. I've not watched a great deal of it.
It's it's wonderful in a way because, obviously, it's set in that time, the fifteen hundreds. And, although yeah. And, the the of course, there are no cars. There are no trains. There are no airplanes. Nobody's playing any radios. There's nothing like that. It's just dialogue, you see, and a few people with loots, I guess, every now and again. And so the dialogue is the thing that holds it all together. Anyway, I wanted to just play your little scene. This is about two and a half minutes long, but I've gotta give you a bit of background to it. Anne Boleyn is in the picture now, and Henry's chasing her like mad.
And she was betrothed to a chap called Henry Percy, and, Percy has been running his mouth off. This is before Henry's been able to actually marry Anne Boleyn. This is during a a period of tremendous tension. And, he's been running his mouth off, saying that Anna's basically been free with her favors to undermine the whole thing, and this is not going down too well at all. And Cromwell, goes to confront him over this. And the reason I wanted to play it to you is that it gives you an in as well about the power of money. The it's very, when I heard this, it ends in a spectacular way. So let me it's two and a half minutes long. So let me just play this to you, and we'll see how it goes. Okay?
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Mhmm.
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Oh, you're wasting your time. I was pledged to end. She allowed me such freedom with herself as only a betrothed woman would allow. Cardinal bullied me out of saying anything last time. I'm not afraid to speak the truth now.
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Good. My lord, you said what you have to say. Now listen to me. You're a man whose money is almost spent. I'm a man who knows how you've spent it. You're a man who's borrowed all over Europe. I'm a man who knows your creditors. One word from me, and all your debts will be called in. What are they gonna do, bankers don't have armies? Neither will you without any money. Now, lord, you hold your earldom from the king. Your task is to secure the North to defend us against Scotland. If you cannot ensure these things, the king will take your land and your titles and give them to somebody who will do the job you cannot do. No. He won't. He respects all ancient titles. How can I explain this to you?
The world does not run from where you think it is, from border fortresses, even from Whitehall. The world is run from Antwerp, from Florence, from Lisbon, wherever the merchant ships set sail off into the West, not from castle walls, from counting houses, from the pens that scrape out your promissory notes. So believe me when I say that my banker friends and I will rip your life apart. And then when you are without money and title yes. I can picture you. Living in a hovel, wearing homespun, bringing home a rabbit for the pot, your lawful wife and boleyn skinning and jointing that rabbit.
Yes. I wish you all happiness. You were never precontracted. Any understanding you think you have, you didn't have it. And if you think lady Anne loves you, well, you couldn't be more mistaken. But I've just come from her. She hates you. She despises you. She wants you gone. So if you say one more word about Lady Anne's freedom with you, I will come and drag you out of whatever hole you're cowering in, and the Duke of Norfolk will bite your bollocks off. I do hope that's clear, my lord.
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Quite clear. I just thought I just thought it was a good clip, and I just wanted to share it in terms of drama. Here's some drama for you. It just shows you the attitude that you're up against when push comes to shove. And they love it. You know, we will rip your life apart, and that's to be borne in mind. That's what these characters are like. It's a fascinating absolutely amazing
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production. Really is. Yeah. And they love it. Did you see I was gonna ask you, Brent. Did you happen to see, DJT's, Talk to Congress the other night, Monday night, I think?
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Much of it. Yes. Much of it. Yes. But I wanna ask before Paul
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Okay. Go ahead.
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Does bollocks mean what I think it means?
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A man's testicles.
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Yeah. Okay. I get it. Yeah. I I get it. Well, no. I I like that word. I did see the, the, the presentation. I got the gist of it. I didn't watch every bit of it, but what were you gonna say, Roger?
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Oh, I was just gonna say, did you see how ridiculous the Democrats look? Oh, it did. It's just unbelievable that he's backed them into a corner where they're having to defend all these things like child prostitution and illegal immigration. They gotta stand up and defend those things. And they've been released big time. By the way, the who's the Manning? Is that the congressman from Kentucky House that's so has voted everything against Israel?
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Yeah. What do you do? Well well, he's got
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the the old guy, Mitch McConnell, has announced his retirement. He's gonna run for senate, Probably. Oh,
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I see.
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So the of course, they're already talking about the midterms and well, the Well, I hope so. A Democratic party may be done. And thank you, Paul, for playing that clip. Yep.
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Yep. Yeah. It's just it's and then I I I've got to get familiar with the rest of it. She's dead, unfortunately. She died a few years ago. And, I think it's pretty, the script is pretty anti Cromwell and anti the arrival of the Church of England splitting from Rome. And there's probably good grounds for that. This is not a very pleasant episode in English history, and I think that there's all sorts of concoctions and other forces at play. I think the hand of Venice is in all of this. And, even, there's evidence to suggest, that some of the characters are of the Edomite persuasion. Not Cromwell. I don't think Cromwell was. Although, he was the son of a blacksmith, and blacksmith, being a blacksmith is a, one of the manual professions that they did. It's quite interesting. And Wolsey, there's also a lot of evidence suggest that maybe cardinal Wolsey was of that same way. There's some tremendous reports from, I might have mentioned them here before, Venetian ambassadors to England at the time. You can do a search for them, and you'll they probably should still come up. I don't think they're sort of thing that would be banned. They they kept copious notes. There's an amazing one from a Venetian ambassador witnessing Henry when he's about 22, and there's a description of his character, his personality, what his day is like. He spent most of his day on the back of a horse hunting all day long, but took mass three times a day.
And this is one of these great ironies of this period. When, when the attack came upon the Catholic church, from Martin Luther, Henry drafted a note, a big essay as it were, in defense of the faith, and it went to the pope. The pope was so impressed with this that he gave Henry a title, obviously, a Catholic title, which was, defender of the realm. Anyway, after they'd split from Rome, they decided to still hang on to that title or that description, which is slightly amusing in a way. So it's a it's a really hellish period in English history. And I I've often felt that from that period to now is like this modern era of complete madness, and all of the forces are at play. And it, you know, Catholics have, of course, are still very, very cross about England leaving it, and Catholics did not fare well over here. It was an insane situation because people that had been friends three weeks prior, were now killing one another in the streets, and so there was bloodletting on a colossal scale. All of this is gonna come out.
You can see all the forces at play and how it was manipulated, but it's pivotal, really, because it weakened us again. And then a little bit later, of course, in the mid sixteen hundreds, we get Cromwell coming along. And, thirty years after that, we've got the Bank of England, so called. And you've got this kind of modern era of mercantile, rapacious, parasitical capitalism, you know, on steroids. And, it much of it springs from here, obviously, because of this great It's it's still spring is coming from there, baby.
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It is. You guys are gonna It it Chain your boys and don't let them send them to the Ukraine there, Paul.
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Oh, no one's going. No one's going. The the guy that's in charge is just viewed as a complete fart, which he is. I mean, it's just it's a universal everybody's saying he's the worst prime minister ever, and and they're saying how amazing that is because we've got a lot of candidates to fall into that category. They said, can you actually believe that this guy is the worst one ever? And everyone's going, yeah. He just is. I mean, you get comments, I'm 85 years old. I've lived through everything. This guy is just needs to go. What do we do with him? You know? And the thing is there's no voices of opposition. This is the this is what tells you that the fix is in. They they throw you in jail. If you push me, they throw you in jail. Yeah. You're not allowed to speak. Therefore, it's a psyop. We're being conditioned to accept all this stuff. Yeah. Of course, people are not accepting the conditioning.
And so slowly but surely, they're trying to tighten everything up. But, I mean, the whole of the Ukraine thing as everybody here knows is a complete farce. I still think, you know, that speech from Jeffrey Sachs the other week, if you've seen it, that twenty seven minute speech, in Europe just is the best shot primer. It's all anybody needs to listen to. Listen to that. Yeah. You'll know exactly what's causing it all, and you'll know why Europe is completely in the wrong and mad. Completely mad.
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Jeffrey Sachs is fabulous.
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K? Yeah. He is. Now you wanna talk about a good Jew. Presentation. Jeffrey Sachs is one hell of a good Jew. I wrote that to someone the other day. I said, there's one who's sticking his neck out. And so, I hope he comes out of it okay because, you know and then there's a part of me that thinks, okay. Is this a double double triple double bluff? You know, you never can tell with all of these things. It's very difficult from our point of view. But the content of his speech, it makes it simple. You understand exactly what's going on. And, of course, it's it's a devastating speech because it highlights the sheer asinine stupidity of all of the so called leaders of Europe. These people are not even imbeciles. They're something we're gonna have to create some new words. They're a menace. They're traitors.
And, also, they're not the people making the decisions. Of course not. They're There's something else doing it, and you can feel it. And everybody's been going, these guys are not really in charge. You know, I've been telling you that for years. They're not. It's that it's that force that Cromwell, Thomas Cromwell was talking about. That's the force that's in charge. That one. The one where the ships leave the merchant ports. That's it. It is. Absolutely. Right. You know, and I was I mentioned, didn't I, last time I was on briefly this thing about the Crusades, and I've been reading about that. And and, again, the logistics of it. When you look at the logistics of sending a knight there or whatever with any of these military conflicts throughout history, the real thing I've realized to look at is how you put the army in the field. Who paid for all that stuff?
This is the key thing. Everybody goes, oh, the blokes are really brave. Go, yeah, they were. Absolutely. But they would have got nowhere without swords, cavalry, you know, man servants, food supplies. Who organized all that? Without that, there ain't no battle. They're in one. And so, you know, this is left behind in in all movies. Everybody's, yeah. Let's get on with the fighting. Okay. Great. You're and, yeah, because we're glad we weren't there. And when you read descriptions of it, you're really glad that you weren't there because it's just hell on earth, really. But but, it's key. The logistics, the financiers, how they put it together. And the same thing goes with World War two. You know, you look at Russia and its tank factories. You go, it's got nothing to do with all this crap about people being brave. They just had gazillions of tanks.
And, all of these things and it's who organizes that stuff. And we never get to that bit, do we, or very rarely in the narratives that we hear. They don't go to that. You gotta drill down two or three levels, and you go, ah, now I see it. Now I get what's going on. That we're the truth seekers. See, the other people sit on the sideline. They don't care. They wanna call you you crazy. They just go along with the flow. We're the ones that are cutting edge truth seeking here. That's what I wanted about Jeff. Jeff's audience
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has got to be almost chock full of truth seekers because he's always on the cutting edge of everything. It's just like I I complimented him last night on Barry Chamish, on Adrian Salbucci, and people that I've had direct contact with that were just fantastic. You know? I mean, I don't think the world knew about Sabotage v before he had Barry Chalmers on there twenty something years ago.
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No. Probably not. Probably not. No.
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No. Anyway, well, listen. I got to go, Paul. Love you. Thanks for jumping by. Do it anytime you want. The carpet's always out for you. Brent Yeah. Francine, thank you so much. As always, another great can show in the can, and, we'll look forward to doing it again next week. And you guys have a great weekend, and, thank you so much for being with us. I hope you got something out of it. So, Enjoy your fish and chips and Yorkshire pudding, don't you? I we I wish I could have some fish and chips. Yes, sir, Brent.
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I just said thank you both. You both Pauls and appreciate
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Yeah. Appreciate all your comments, and I've gotta go look some things up and follow-up with what was said. There you go. Well, you guys, be good, and I'll see you soon. And thanks as always. Love all of you. Bye bye.
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Hello, Paul. Paul English. Hello?
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Yeah. I'm I'm still here coughing. Sorry. I was just on mute. Hi.
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They that's, good audio audio clip you played about ten minutes ago. Who was that speaking and who was he speaking to?
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The the guy doing all the threatening, the quiet threatening talk was Thomas Cromwell. And the guy he was speaking to was Henry Percy who had been betrothed to Anne Boleyn and was about to not be betrothed to her because she was about to be swept off by Henry the eighth. And, he was putting him on warning to keep his mouth shut as people were getting very unhappy with him. Yep. I mean, that's early on in this that's two and a half hours into the first series, which is about six hours long, so there's quite a bit to go. And then there's a second series of another six hours. I'm not rushing through it because it's actually it's quite gripping, actually, for me. I quite like it. So that's how it was. Yeah. Thank you.
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Yeah. I was trying to find a creative source for it, and I haven't been able to locate one. Might actually have to bite the bullet and buy it from Amazon.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
If I could get a hold of copies, I'll send them to you. I cut down hi.
[02:41:49] Unknown:
Hi. This is Jerry Garcia in Carlsbad, New Mexico.
[02:41:53] Unknown:
Hi, Jerry Garcia.
[02:41:57] Unknown:
Land, air and water. And this is also a question for Brent. On in Genesis one twenty six where it talks about, where god created the man, and then he gave him dominion over the fish that are in the water, the birds that are in the air, and the cattle that are on the land. And then way over there in Psalms eight, four through nine, he flips it around to that he gave man who is man, that he thinks so much about him, that he gave him dominion and made him just a little lower than the angels, and then he gave him dominion over the animals that are on the land, the birds that are in the air, and the fish that are in the water.
So in Genesis, he spells it w a l, and in the Psalm, he spells it l a w. I'm just commenting on it.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I just had that as a passing comment on Wednesday, and I've got to follow it up. So I don't have anything sort of intelligent or can't provide you with any references to it or some kind of lineage as to why that sentence would be floating around. I found it quite intriguing. I mean, there are a lot of things like that with acronyms and stuff in the English language. You know?
[02:43:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I when I heard it, I thought it was, like, at that's absolutely brilliant. And I've been looking for a source for it to verify it, and I haven't been able to find one.
[02:43:38] Unknown:
So Yeah. Well, I think I think I'm in LORE. L o r e. There's a the LORE is good. The two are inextricably linked, it seems. I've come across this sort of little law blog, I mean, if I can just bring it up here, that was talking about this. Of course, I can't find it now. You know what it's like. Oh, yeah. Here is, this is just a blog. I was just doing some search on it yesterday. A guy talking about I don't know whether it's a US Lawyer or not. It doesn't really matter. Was just talking about this definition of law, l o r e, and, how the two are, sort of linked. And I'm just trying to find the definition of it. It's here. It says he says, and so my view is that to understand law, l a w, in practice, one has to have an understanding of law, l o r e, which I see is helpfully defined online as here's the definition of l o r e law. A body of traditions and knowledge on a subject or held by a particular group typically passed from person to person by word-of-mouth.
And that's the way I I've viewed common law, l o r e l a w. It gets a bit confusing, doesn't it? A lot. Which is the pragmatic, yeah, the pragmatic application, by people in real really living it, and this is how it works out. And that trial by jury came out of this, of trial by your peers, like we were talking about yesterday. You know, if you're a car mechanic accused of something, the peers that are on the jury will all be car mechanics. They have to know this field to be able to assess whether you're actually guilty or not guilty of what you're being accused of. So it's Right. The details, you know, they all yield up bounty once you understand what they're supposed to be about. But it's a conversation, Paul. I'm gonna carry on with this chap when I get back in touch with him because, he said a lot of things about that. And the thing, of course, that I mentioned about Shakespeare and this arrival of a lot of words into, into the lexicon of of English words is also extremely intriguing and interesting. So, a lot going on in that period of history. Bye, gum. A lot.
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Well, as as far as What's what's the diff
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As far as the, oh god. Now now I lost where I was gonna go with that. Oh, as far as the, the trial by jury, yeah, that's jury as it appears. But jury trial, that is simply people of the same political or, socioeconomic status as it were. Mostly political status, I e, all citizens of The United States, all subjects of the crown, from wherever they come from and and, whatever their status is, whatever. So they've oversimplified it. So, yeah, it would make sense that, you know, if a car mechanic is being sued or whatever, there should be a jury of car mechanics. They would understand not only the nuts and bolts of what the guy is doing, no pun intended, but they would also understand, you know, what they would also understand the the just the concept of the arrangement that the the customer had with the mechanic.
[02:47:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You're and you're right about the watering down of it. I think one of the documents I was reading was saying that, you know, they've been watering it down for eight hundred years since 12/15. Eight hundred and '10 years now. It's all been a watering down process. And in doing so, they've managed to make people forget, or certainly, what is not being applied is that the jury can annul the law if it thinks the law is not a law anymore, even if it ever was. Why is this law? This is not a law. No. That law's irrelevant. It's we're annulling it, and therefore, there's nothing this this guy's got nothing to answer for because he he hasn't broken any law because we're telling you that this rule that some idiot made up in the bureaucratic holes of here, there, or everywhere is nonsense. And this means that the so called lawmakers, these people that have been providing all these things for the improvement of our lives, they would come under scrutiny.
You and we find out that you, Bob Smith, have been passing loads of crap for the last thirty five years. None of it is law. And you're a serial provider of false of things that you say are law which are not. So I don't you know, obviously, there'd be a whole series of processes if you could get it going, but it's an amazingly powerful. It's the most powerful institution we would have, and it needs to be for us here. We need it in place right now because I would suggest that the guy masquerading as our prime minister is not a prime minister at all. I don't know what charges you'd have him on, but he needs to be tried. They all do. It's just you know, I'm talking asinine here. I know we're not gonna do that tomorrow morning or anything. But getting the getting the thinking behind it is is very encouraging because we've obviously had conventions here and structures that did do just that, and therefore, we were in a much healthier place, making it easier for everyone to understand what's going on.
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You know, there are still states in this country. There's probably not very many of them, but there are still states in this country that still have a law on the books that in order to operate an automobile after sundown, that a, a lamp lighter or somebody holding a lamp had to be walking in front of you lighting your path. That's still on the books. That was from when that was from before cars had lights. But it's still there. Yes. And if they really wanted to hang you with it, they can no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
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Yeah. Although if it was trial by jury, the jury would probably annul that law and say this is obviously ridiculous.
[02:49:44] Unknown:
But a jury trial been forgotten. Their their instructions from the judge would preclude them from doing that. You know, you judge your case by the facts, and I will give you the law. They were operating without somebody lighting their way,
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so they're guilty. And even even even that word judge, you see, is a false word because they weren't called judges. They were called conveners. So the the there was an individual responsible for convening the trial, and that's what they were, conveners, not judges. And that even the use of that word judge is ascribed over to them the powers of judgment, which they're not there to exercise. That's the jury that's gonna do that. So he's like the ref the convener is the like the referee in a football match. He's basically there to make sure that the rules are kept and to be asked by the jury when the jury is, aware that it's unknowledgeable about some aspect. They ask him. They say, what is the law on this? And he that's his job to provide it. But they're the ones who are gonna decide it, not him. But, of course, this is part of this chiseling away at it. Now we end up with these all powerful judges, but there's no such thing. There's no actual remit for that within the actual original structure.
It's the people of the land are going to naturally express natural law based on the conventions of the day, and that's how it works. That's how why it's common law because it's common to all people or as near as damn it, I guess. That's the idea behind it.
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I was wondering if Rick wanna come back and say what he was gonna say. I think it was Rick. I don't know what
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yeah. I don't know what he was gonna say. That's right anymore.
[02:51:28] Unknown:
No. Well, it's ten to seven here. Not that that means that. Yeah. I just thought I'd let you know for those of you sticklers about time zones. I've got to go and and do my thing. So I don't have lunch, but I've got supper to arrange quickly. It's just about done. So I've gotta go and do that. And, again, always fun, being here on a Friday. So so much for thank you so much for showing up and hanging out. You know? Oh, I always think I get so much more out of it. Listening to Brent and that hour before I came on and everything, that was just fantastic stuff. It was brilliant. So it's always great when you hear things you've not heard before, and you just go, woah. Yeah. You sort of you know, you're coloring in the pictures the picture more fully. There's more detail going into all the time. I find that really satisfying and thrilling, actually. So it's it's great stuff.
Groovy. Anyway, I'm gonna go off and blow my nose. As you can tell, I probably need to do that.
[02:52:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sorry. I had to step away before the end of the show yesterday, so I was delayed in taking the stream down. But, I grabbed the, the stream from Global Voice Network, and I edited off the the post show post show conversation
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and then reupload it. All the swearing and shouting. There's a post the the the post show discussion. The post show the after The post show drunken verbal abuse. Yeah. The post show drunken verbal abuse. I'm glad you took that off. That's
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Yeah. That's good. I took that off and and reuploaded it. So
[02:52:57] Unknown:
Hey. As well, just on a personal thing, Paul, now that Skype is going the way of the dodo, not that I connect with you through that, but May, it goes into the ether. Does Skype, which is rip is a ridiculous turn of events. But how do I get in touch with you? Still through that?
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They're replacing it with Teams. And, I know.
[02:53:19] Unknown:
Teams. I Yeah. Is an original word for you. Yeah. Teams. Yeah. Right. Right.
[02:53:25] Unknown:
Well, what I can do is you know, I had Telegram running. I was I was doing an experiment. I had Telegram running from the show yesterday because I used Telegram to send that data to you, but I just left it open. And I'm telling you, when I woke up this morning, my computer was absolutely crawling. It was absolutely so out of out of memory, and I had just rebooted it two days before that.
[02:53:57] Unknown:
So It's time you got rid of that it's time you got rid of that Hewlett Packard machine from 1996, Paul. Come on. Get rid of it. It's not a it's it's not a you would pack it. And I'm teasing.
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I'm teasing. 1996.
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It's an IBM Lenovo from 02/2006.
[02:54:17] Unknown:
Well, whatever. I, you know, I used to work in telephone marketing in the eighties. And, I worked in telemarketing in the eighties, and it was during the, you know, the arrival of the PC and the Mac, we were business to business organization. And, sometimes the telephone lines were not that clear. And, someone had been speaking to someone at Hewlett Packard, but had mis completely and had written down on the call sheet. I've just been speaking to someone from Tulip placard, which went down in sort of business. Look. We quite liked that. So it it was funny at the time. It's not even funny now. It's just an observation. But there you go. Tulip placard, and, that's all part of it. So I'm gonna go anyway. I'm gonna go and blow my nose. I'll be in touch, Paul, and I'll see you next week at some point, and thanks for today. Brilliant.
Cool. Bye, everyone. I'll, see you soon. Thanks. Bye for now. Bye bye.
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Alright. Bye. Bye, Paul. Bye, Paul.
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Question for you.
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I, Yeah. Me?
[02:55:19] Unknown:
Just Just reading this, I've been talking a little bit about the forensic matter into this foreclosure and mortgage dismissals. And there's another piece of information as I gathered. There was a handwritten note that they Boris and Jimbo sent into the court. Notice of acceptance and request. Time is of the essence. There has been a mistake. Where is the proper notice so I may handle this manner in honor? For your information and understanding the reason for this notice is reciprocation and indemnification within Article 38 of the Liber Code in conjunction with Article 31 of the Liber Code in order for Article two of the Liber Code to be fulfilled.
It appears that I'm a joint recipient of certificate of live birth number and eighties a number. In absence of evidence to the contrary, would the attached copy of certificate of live birth be evidence of the obligation slash guarantee of performance by United States and the state of Michigan. In the absence of evidence to the contrary and with the screening, it appears I am joint recipient to and co user of Social Security number. This is a security number and the name registered on the street. Live birth gives a live birth number. I now notice you have my acceptance of the agreement and request the court to instruct the plaintiff to provide and deliver all tools necessary to use account limits on your credit card number account honorably in commerce and then in care of your mail mailing address.
The account was withdrawn $20,000. It was discharged. You need to be a local heard from again.
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Okay. And where did you get that from? And can you send it to me?
[02:57:04] Unknown:
Yes. It's, part six, the end of the part six video. There's eight parts of the video. It's law of Boris. I actually am in front of a computer, so I could, I could email it to you if you'd like.
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Please. Yeah. Do it.
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It's on a rumble channel. And
[02:57:28] Unknown:
yeah. So Okay. What's the channel, but that Wait a minute. I'm actually on rumble right now. What is the, what's the name of the rumble channel?
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Law of Boris.
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Law of Boris. Yep. And There is a stamp on Mhmm.
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This is a presentation to there is a court stamp on it. This is from 02/2011 that they filed. And so I don't know, in terms of the context, what's funny is then they got the mortgage discharged in 2012 as well. So I don't know if that notice into that court, because I think there was a previous UCC filing, if that triggers something else. But the fact that they mentioned the Libra code, I thought was really interesting because of what we were just talking about being under military rule.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
Right. Okay. Now there's three law of Boris. There's law space of space Boris. There's law space of space Boris space video something, and then there's law of Boris, all one word.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
Well, that's good to know. Which one is it? There's more Boris out there.
[02:58:41] Unknown:
Yeah. There's lots of Boris out there.
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With law of Boris with a space in between the words.
[02:58:49] Unknown:
Okay. So there's 800 and, 90 followers. Correct. Law of Boris part six of eight, five of eight, three of eight Mhmm. Eight of eight, one of eight. Is that the ones you're talking
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about? Yes. Yep. It's good to look at the whole series, but, for what I was just referencing back to the eight of eight of eight of eight, six, because then they forensically go through the, the rest of what happened in that case. However, he he ties a lot to, like, the declaration of independence and a lot of other background info. That's why I'd recommend the whole series.
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Two, three. You can use for download.
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Or Oh, you can download them?
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you have a tool for that? Or just yeah. Four k video downloader. Four k v d e link address. That's part five. Part six. Supposed to be able to download an entire channel, but it doesn't doesn't work on rumble. Rumble, it just gives you video, video, m p four and video number one, two, three, four, and all that. But it it doesn't actually grab the, the titles. It does for YouTube. It grabs the titles. You can grab an entire playlist or an entire channel, and that's loads of fun. I've got, like, 1,147 files from one YouTube channel. It's, on, let's see.
Okay. It's 1,395 items, and that's the EON channel. I postponed that. But Simplify Gardening has 488 items in no till growers has 651 items that are queued but paused, and, Martin Johnson's off grid living, 1,166 items queued for download but postponed because I'm grabbing other stuff. But I'll, I'll turn those channels on and then grab those videos in due course. And it just builds a subfolder on my drive, and it puts all the videos in that folder and also grabs the subtitle files too. So if you, if you watch them with a, with a video player that supports subtitles, just point it at the subtitle file and you'll have the text at the bottom of the screen just like I need to.
Closed captioning.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Oh, yeah. It's four k v d. Four k video downloader is what it stands for. And four k v d plus supports, all tons of different platforms. It supports, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, some x videos, some Twitters. Okay. I've got all eight of those files queued for download.
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That's quite interesting to, hear all the different methods, you know, of dealing with this and the fact that the channel came up too. I thought I was interested because if they're creating, you know, if we're kind of a recipient of the certificate of librarians, we have no idea what's going on. We're just a minor, right, at the time. And if they're using the using the law, whatever law it is, commercial, whatever, we should have a remedy to make things right. And that sounds like what was happening in these cases at Yale.
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K. I was wondering if we wanted oh, go ahead. I'm sorry, Paul. Hang on. Hang on one second. On the law of Boris, were you reading that, like, from the description on the video? What were you reading? No. I was actually
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forensically going into his presentation looking what I don't have the slides, so I was actually getting it off his video presentation of his slides. And, you know, that was the letter that was stamped that went to the court. And then I think seven in video seven, they show more of the documentation. I sent the PDF, the 12 page PDF of the actual mortgage case to Sherry and Julie as well. And that's the one where they had filed the UCC naming the hospital, the birth hospital as a debtor as well as the all caps name as a debtor. And, they forensically went in and saw where the Secretary of State became the hospital's, registered agent in Florida because the Detroit Hospital in Michigan had no had no, you know, business in Florida other than the sounds like The United States and Washington DC business.
[03:04:15] Unknown:
Right. But they would still have they would still have the the ability to do business in Florida because both Michigan and Florida are political subdivisions of DC. So they would have reciprocal, jurisdiction and reciprocal authority. I would I believe. Exact
[03:04:38] Unknown:
yes. Exactly. And that's why the, I think, the attorney general's office, of Florida then forget who was in the papers, but they actually you can watch the presentation, but they actually went went ahead and said, oh, we lost the summons to do the to do the foreclosure actions. So the foreclosure action was was quieted. And then sometime later after this other document that I just read, that handwritten document, so this all started like in 02/2009, I believe, with the foreclosure action. 2011, they wrote this letter. 2012, the whole mortgage went away then.
Sounds like a really interesting series of and it was all, you know, I'm surprised the whole case isn't, what do they call that when they quash it, you know.
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Under seal?
[03:05:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Under seal. But, they kinda went back and said, well, this happened here and this happened here. Maybe they can't put under seal because it's a public, you know, public business based on the all caps name.
[03:05:45] Unknown:
Well, I don't know why I think they could probably put anything they want to under seal it. They don't care. Even if they're not supposed to be able to do it, they're still gonna do it.
[03:05:58] Unknown:
So I don't know. Maybe it's the white hats. Maybe it's the white hats making sure we can look that up, and we know where to look for it. Thank you. Okay. Okay.
[03:06:11] Unknown:
I just wanted to mention that, in the in the book of the hundreds, they have a lot of references in there, how Lincoln transformed our common law into Roman law, and our land and how we mortgage it and how we transfer it and our actual ownership of it, how this is actually Roman law, nothing to do with common law. Just want to point that out Mhmm. For those who are interested in reading up on it there.
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Mhmm. Cool. Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry about that, Annette. Go ahead. Are you are you still trying to see if lady Linda is still on?
[03:06:58] Unknown:
Yeah. If Linda or Rick wants to come and bring up what they were gonna bring up, I would be interested. Well, that was flooring in my words. I would be interested.
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Well Like, either way
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on here. So you'll be waiting a long time.
[03:07:28] Unknown:
Thank you for letting me know. I appreciate it.
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So I'm thinking it's time to put this guy to bed. Well, not this guy, but the the show today. What an amazing show following, yet another amazing show on the Jeff Rentz program last night. I listened to it. I streamed it. I shared it with the runes. It it was very interesting. Definitely, kept me awake for sure. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Rogers Sales. You can catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. The Sabadeau edition is tomorrow at 11AM on eurofoopradio.com, radio Global voice radio Net, and, plethora of other platforms. Hopefully, WDRN productions will be with us yet again tomorrow.
Thank you so much for joining us. I'm out here. Have a great day. This is the day that the Lord has made, and, we're gonna bring it back to put him in the forefront. What do you think?
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Well, alrighty. Well, we may have we may have changed it a little bit last night. We'll find out. Here we go on the Friday edition, Radio Hill Ranch, Roger Sales, and I think Brent Winters is gonna be with us if he's not already. They've changed Zoom, so I don't see if I can see all those people up there. Regardless, it's the March 7 on Friday, of course. I don't see Francine. Rogers Sales Radio Ranch, and, we'll get into the dialogue right as soon as we take the time here at the start to recognize all of our partners and, helping to extend our reach here. And, boy, we may need them pretty soon, Paul. So please give them their right stroke them real good, would you?
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Yeah. We just might. Actually, you're not the only one who's having problems this morning, so I'm glad that we're actually getting the bells on. So, we are on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paul, across the drink, And we're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we are on Global Voice Radio Network on Pod Home. And that's it today. Mhmm.
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Really? Yeah. Well, that's alright. I don't know if we'll have any listeners, from last night's show here today because we didn't plug the radio show very much. We have a lot of
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information to try and cover in a very short amount of time as it applies to our stuff.
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But I will tell you it was a grand slam out of the park. Jeff has already booked me for next Wednesday in the second hour. He said his people went nuts over the information. He praised me up one side and down the other on my on my skills communication, etcetera. And, it appears mister Rents and I are off to a pretty good start, and, I have a feeling I'll be hanging around over there from now on, at to some whenever he feels like bringing me back. But the interesting thing is, obviously, Jeff has never been schooled in law and has gotten a lot of this peripheral stuff. And I was so pleased when he confronted me with Admiralty Law there at the first to be able to just reel it off and say, this is why it can't be Admiralty Law. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
And, I guess, people were extremely impressed. And, I sent him a copy of the book. He's gonna post it in headlines for download over there today. And as you guys know, when you're presented with this initially, it takes a little while for most people, not everybody. Anyway, he got it. He got it with the two questions, I think, and we didn't have too much time after that. But, we will pick that back up on Wednesday. So thank all of you for your prayers. Thank you for your emails to Jeff to get it on. He's saying, boy, you got a sizable audience, buddy. That was his, and that's nice to hear from him.
So, pretty excited. I believe we're, we've found the springboard we've been looking for. Waiting for and praying for, and I'm just tickled to death. So there we go on Monday morning, mister Paul. I see Francine. Good deal. That's good. Francine We might, known this. I was booked on Jeff Rentz last night. I'm not sure if Francine knows who Jeff is, but he has got a large radio audience. He's been doing three hours a night, weeknights for thirty years or more. So he's compiled quite an audience, and that audience, because of the nature of his scheduling and guests, are real truth seekers because they get a lot of stuff over there, that you you or the first time you ever heard it. I never heard of the Sabbathians of Eve before. He had Barry Chalmers on there. I don't know that anybody else had either. I've been studying that for a lot of years already. I've never seen that anywhere.
So, good. Good on you, Jeff. Thank you. Love you. Can't wait to be with you again next week and your audience, and what a thrill and an honor for me. So thank all of you that contributed to the heavy lifting. Roger.
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Roger. Joan. You and Jeff ran for such a good match.
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Yeah. We did pretty good. Well, we both guys like Brent and I. See? But the reason one of the reasons Brent and I do so well is because both of us have got broadcast background, and the same with Jeff. And, yeah. I thought we bonded pretty good, Joan. Hey, Roger. Thank you. Yeah. I see I see that mister Winters showed up. Hey, Brent. I think he did. Did he?
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Looks like he did. Oh, I can't see that screen, but maybe a
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There he is.
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Update. Okay. Well, I'll hold on, Brent. We got an update from Paul. Here we go. Good.
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Well, we did stream, the first hour of Jeff Rance on Global Voice Network. The first hour is already up on Pod Home. There is a transcript available. Just like a normal Radio Ranch show, I mean, I streamed it to the PPN Radio Ranch FCC group and also, the backroom group. And it basically had everything running.
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So Good.
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That that fifty nine minute and forty five second archive is up right now.
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And, of course, there's not a lot of time to cover what we cover, especially when you're going in in-depth on some of the background stuff. But, you know, Jeff just likes to learn. He was just saying, I just like to learn, man. He he learned a lot through that whole hour. And, and then I guess he'd kinda been looking for somebody. Brent is skilled in the law. And early on, he asked me about Admiralty Law, and I went through prize and booty and remedies and all that kind of stuff briefly. But I think maybe he's gonna tap me as their law guy, which is just a real honor for me.
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Well, sure. Well, no. I'm tickled to death. I don't I'm surprised that, you got on. Did you somebody suggest he call you or something? We have one of our listeners, Thomas. Jeff
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occasionally will open up the phone lines and have callers call in. He did it over Christmas, and somebody from our group got in and said, you need to have Roger Sales on your show and gave him the website. Mhmm. And I never heard from him. Well, Thomas, he did that again about two weeks ago, and Thomas, our listener in South Florida, got through to the call screener, whose name's Todd, by the way. And, and and he said, listen, how can I write Jeff? And he gave him another email address that we didn't have. And so Thomas wrote him and I got on the air and asked folks to send him an email, you know, and he they did real good. Kind of covered him up, I guess, with him. And, he scheduled me. And so that was last night. And boy, it was a pretty good success, Brent. I mean, you know when you do a show and whether it's good or not, you know? Oh, yeah. That one was good, and and he loved it.
And I are you familiar with the runs?
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Oh, I've seen him, and I've listened to him some, but I Okay. Don't make a habit of it. I don't make a habit. I would like to listen to your show every every weekday. Right. Can't do that, and
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I can't do that and kill the snakes I gotta kill. Sure. Well, if you don't know anybody, I don't can't believe anybody wouldn't. But Jeff is one of these guys, and he glommed onto the Internet real early. And he put up a website that's a news aggregation site, I think is what I'd call it, where you get all kinds of articles and different stuff from different places, and you congregate them on your website there. And that's what he started. He started a radio show back then. I don't know what his background in broadcasting was to that point. Oh, I do too. He used to be the, he used to be the producer and and one of the, camera people in Las Vegas on a TV show for about ten years on TV news and stuff.
So I believe that was his, his broadcast experience. And as soon as we started getting VoIP over the Internet and broadcasting and stuff, he was right there at the front of the train, and he'd been very consistent for over thirty years, three hours a night, and having stupendous guests on where he gets some of these people. I don't know, but he's really cutting edge on an awful lot of stuff. And, so it was perfect for us, and him and I seemed to hit it off. And I'll be with him again next Wednesday in the second hour, and they're very hungry. They're hungry for the information, which is fantastic.
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Oh, yeah. Well, it it all come down to the response he gets from the his listeners. That's the way that works. Right. Yep. And if they're What they
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he's not a big Trump fan. He's not? No. He's not. Mhmm. And I I'm I've I'm under I've I knew that ahead of time. And so when that came up last night and his, Zionist affiliations, and I just said, well, Jeff, this is a way to do an end run around that. We can expose those people for Trump. Hey. Well, I think I think he liked that. You know? So, anyway, I'll be back next Wednesday. We'll do as best we can to finish up and add some, wholesome sprinkles on top and stuff, and, we'll see where it goes. But I have a feeling I'm gonna be in regular rotation over there at some capacity, which is fantastic.
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Well, sure. No. I'm glad to hear it. The more exposure you can get, the more exposure we all can get. Exactly. Yeah. That's right. Well, I've I've met a lot of people, of the very conservative Elkin, more in my camp, that, expressed as is always the case, once the rah rah rah is over and everybody's excited, then people start complaining about the guy they were supporting. Namely, we're talking about DJ. And, that's to be expected. It's not gonna be avoided. We, all think we're smarter than the guy that's holding levers of power, and maybe we are in some points. But but, on the other hand, it's like people I used to watch people in tax cases, and they hire a lawyer to defend them in a tax case, a criminal tax case.
And, they try to tell the lawyer how to run the case. Now in many cases, lawyers don't know what to do, and I I can see that. Boy, some of them did don't care one way or the other. But in other cases, they do care, and they try hard, but then there'll be a great difference. And the client always thinks he's, not always, but in those tax cases, especially where people have tax theories about what income tax is, and they think that they're the smartest guy in the room, and, they're gonna run the case. And it doesn't work. No. It never works. Once you get a lawyer, you you've made the plunge, and you either support him or you don't. And once you get a president, you made the plunge, and you either support him or you don't. Of course, you have a choice. You don't have to. You don't have to do anything I say. I'm just saying it's it's good.
Politics is war as we've often said here. And when war happens, people instinctively and always run to the extreme ends of what they believe. And so you got two opposite poles because it comes down to kill or be killed. That's what it comes down to. And, in politics, being war without bloodshed, it's, everything but bloodshed. That's what they tried to do to Trump, everything but bloodshed. And they'll well, no. I shouldn't say that. They tried the bloodshed thing too. They tried to assassinate him. Yeah. If you don't if you can't get it done without bloodshed, then you go to the next step of war, which is bloodshed. And politics give us an emotional outlet, scream and holler and and say, no. You're all wrong. I'm ain't talking to you anymore. And we got the levers of power now, and we're gonna crush you with whatever the whatever, options the law demands.
And, that's what it is. So, you're gonna support support one gang or the other. Politics is all about which gang is gonna occupy the territory for four years in in a presidential situation. Which gang is gonna occupy the territory for the next four years? And there's a gang up up occupying the territory, and they're going to the extremes of warfare, what they think they can lawfully do. And I believe they're being trying to be constitutional about it. As a matter of fact, I heard a fellow the other day. He was, he was a very, well known host on public broadcasting, radio, PBS, which we talked about here, I think. Of course, they're hacking PBS.
I hope hope they hack it out completely. Can you imagine government saying we wanna have our own branch of the press so we can put out the information we wanna put out? Well, that's what we've been doing since Lyndon Johnson and spending billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars to let the government put out information. Listen. If you let the government have money to put out information, they're gonna put out that from information that supports the government. That's all. It's gonna be lies, and that's what public broadcasting has been doing. I went up against them on several occasions, and I found out that they, were overtly, patently supporting my opponent on the radio and on television. When I get on, I think I mentioned this. We've they'd won't have a debate. It was always about democ they had a show called Democracy Now and a couple other shows. Makes it sound like they really care about being balanced. But then I got in the studio, and the studios are always on always on, government supported, taxpayer supported university campuses, which means government schools, which if it's a government school, they're only gonna put the spin on all the facts that are available to learn. They're gonna put the spin on it that helps the government. That's the way it always works. That's why government schools are dangerous and bad from grade school right up to the university and the grad school and the law schools.
Any let me change gears here a little bit. Any school, any institution, it doesn't make any difference what it is. It's going to put its spin on the same facts that everybody else has. That's what education is all about. Education is all about. And if you have the right spin, that's good. In other words, how do you interpret the facts? Take, for example, evolution. You've all heard evolution. Well, that says that somehow within the gene pool of a species, things can change for the better. Well, that that's it. That is impossible as a matter of fact, because the gene pool is limited and all of the mutations that occur are detrimental to the species.
That's the, the simplicity of it is so blatantly obvious that it's stupid to say anything else, but, our government schools have been promoting that idea for and I'm talking as a guy who grew up on the farm, saw a lot of mutations. We had a pig one time, Roger, born with two heads. We had a calf born with two heads too. Wow. Or my brothers and I, we were young, and we wanted to see if we could make these critters survive. And we found with the pig that had two heads, or we tried to feed him and all, but no matter he'd stand up, and he was so top heavy on the front with two heads that his head would fall down into the dirt, and his nose would get in the dirt, and he couldn't breathe. So Oh, man. There's no way the animal was gonna survive because mutations are always detrimental to the species. And that's what that was, a mutation. What's a mutation? That's a stacking.
Have you ever seen Roger, for example, a quartz crystal or a a cluster of quartz crystals? They're kinda pretty. They come in different color. Silica. It's SiO two. And, the and they'll if they're stacked perfectly, the molecules are stacked so they fit perfectly. The crystal will be a perfect shape. But in nature, that doesn't occur very often. If it does, you've got an expensive crystal on your hands. It looks pretty. But quartz will stack and you'll see the shape of the crystal and form of those particular molecules, but the quart crystal will be leaning or will have a flaw in it some place, and all mineral elements are that way. They'll always they have, crystals, water too, water forms and crystals. But crystals, if one molecule, Roger, one molecule is not stacked exactly right to fit with another molecule that as the molecule stack, that imperfection will magnify until Mhmm. A dry core crystal as big as a house will be leaning sideways.
Mhmm. That's the way that works. Well, genes stack the same way. Genes are have a certain molecular structure, and they stack. And that's, what makes us symmetrical. You know, I say to people, they'll look at me, and I'll talk to them, somebody I don't know, and they'll smile, and I'll see they got a dimple on one side or both sides. And I'll say to them, wow. That's really sad. What do you mean? Oh, those dimples you got. Well, why why is that sad? Well, that means that the bone structure of your face didn't stack stack right. The genes didn't stack right when you were forming in the womb, and now you've got this ace it's not symmetrical anymore. It's not asymmetrical to your face, and that's why you've got dimples. And that's a fact. I learned that in high school when I was in biology class. If you've got dimples as attractive as they are, it's a sign that you've got a face bone structure in your face that is not perfectly symmetrical, and that happens in the womb. Well, that's all a matter of gene stacking. And if genes stack crooked enough and they get crooked enough, did you have a mutation like a two headed animal? We had a hog born. And by the way, a calf, we had the same thing. Calf born, two heads, us teenage boys, young teenagers. We were 12, 13, my brothers and I. We wanted to see if we could make it live. Of course, it didn't. It same thing. It was top heavy. It'd fall over in the front and couldn't breathe. It knows it gets stuck in the dirt, and that'd be the end of that. Well, we had a pig born once that had three legs down and one leg up. Hind leg on the on the right side facing forward, it stuck straight up in the air. Really?
Yeah. So when the hog walked, the leg that was sticking straight up in the air and the foot sticking up there and the hoof and all, it would move just like it was one of the legs, but it would be sticking straight up in the air. Well, this hog could get around. It only had one ham because the other ham didn't develop, obviously, because he never put any weight on. He became rather like a pet. We just turned him loose, let him run around. If he'd been with the other hogs, they'd shoved him out of the way, and he disturbed him to death. So we just let him run around like the dogs. We kinda treated him like a dog, and he'd do this, that, and the other. We couldn't sell him on the open market. Couldn't get a decent price for him. So we when he got big enough, dad, shot him, and we butchered him. Then we got one ham and a lot of bacon. We had him fed up nice. It was he made his contribution to the family, and we were very appreciative of that, of course. But we didn't get much out of that other hand because it's all mutations.
All mutations within a species are detrimental to the species. But evolution says overtly and stresses that the way species change are through mutations. And then turn around and say, of course, you recognize all mutations are detrimental. Well, of course, the gene pool is closed within a species. What is a species? A species is a is is a group of animals that can re can reproduce. That's called a species fundamentally speaking. There are always exceptions to the rule, always exceptions, but the exception, of course, is not the rule. And the exception to the rule establishes the rule as sir Francis Bacon said. So there is a rule that, that, maintains in genetics, and that's the way that happens.
But in our government schools, we all have the same facts. And the facts that I gave you about about, that I recited, I learned them about, genetics are facts. They are unchangeable. They are laws. What is law? Law is the way things are and ain't gonna change. And the laws of genetics and mutation and the limitation of the gene pool are just facts. So we got the facts, and the people that wanna produce or push evolution. And the people that say, no, that's not true. They form educational institutions. And those educational institutions have the same facts, but they each put a different spin on the same facts.
That's what education is all about. Whether it's good education, bad education, Christian education, or pagan education, it will always put a different spin on the same set of facts. That's why education is important. And education, by the way, is not the answer. Education is not the answer. I was in running for office, and I had a professor call me. And I've told this story maybe. I don't remember. I'll tell it again for people, but I haven't heard it. I was running for a congress. And I got a professor call me from a local state university. And, his name was, his last name was Butts, b u t t s.
And I was hoping, that his first name would not be Seymour or Harry or something like that. It wasn't because he wasn't he wasn't what I'd call American. He was, he was a citizen of India, and his last name Okay. That's an Indian name. Well, he's he he's a nice guy. He was an education professor, and I got I got to a local restaurant. There was a new Mexican restaurant around there, and I met him. We sat down. Nice fella. And he he said, I got I had to talk to you. I said, well, what is it, professor? He said, here's my here's my point. And he said, you're you may go to Congress. He said, looks like you will. He said, you I gotta tell you this. I gotta tell somebody. I said, what is it? He's at a former state teacher's college, which is now a state university. He said, America will not be able to withstand much more miseducation.
America will not be able to stand much more miseducation. We're tearing the whole country apart with what we spin. We're putting on the facts, The spin we're putting on the facts. Now we both got the same facts. When did the first African slaves arrive in the new world? Well, we've been told it was in 1619, right? I heard that. And that's been since the woke revolution here over the last few years of 1619. Well, we've always known that. Well, then they say, but that's the founding of America, and these people are the ones that found in America, not not the white folk. Yeah. So they put a different spin on the facts. Well, the Africans that got here were deserved, not to be drugged here. Kidnapping's a capital crime. The people that kidnapped those folk should be should have been executed. That's what the Bible says. Kidnapping is a capital crime. They shouldn't have done it. And, they did it and say, well, the slavery. What about that? Well, that's another question. Let's just start with the kidnapping.
You gotta kidnap a slave like that, and that's what they did, and that's crime. And and we know who was behind it all, of course. And there was a whole industry behind it, and Yeah. England England finally ended it. They ended the slave trade, not slavery, the slave trade. The slavery was never lawful in England because it's a common law country. You say, well, how how is it lawful here? Well, lawful here because, England said this is not, this is not a country. This is a part of our empire. It's imperial, and we and the king is emperor in America. That's so, slavery is lawful, and that's exactly what they said. That's why we had slavery. That's why it was allowed, and that's why people here said, oh, great. Let's just have a ball and have all the slaves we want. And they accepted.
They accepted all that. And, of course slavery was very prominent in many different places, but in different ways. I had that also. Down south, it was different than way down south. Down the river, as he used to say, was different than in East Kentucky. And, and in other places in New England where there was slavery, there was different levels of it. And that's never hardly, hardly ever, sometime, but not often talked about. But people had different attitudes toward it because of that. But then war and politics first is war without bloodshed, and that drove people to the extremes on the question of slavery. You're either for it or against it. And when I was in politics, I found out people would ask, well, look, I don't want your ex explanation. I don't want your BS political talk. Are you for gun control or again? And I don't care why. Just tell me. That's all I wanna know.
And I found that that's important when you're in politics because it's war and in war, you don't care about the reasons I had a brother over in, you shouldn't. I had a brother over in, sand land. I call it all those countries over there in the sand And, Afghanistan and Turkestan and Stan Manan and whatever the name of them were. They're all the same. They're Islamic in that sense. He was over there, and, he came back, and he was telling me they were sending him to schools, the different kind of classes to learn about Islam. I said, what'd you learn? Boy, he went into great detail. And I said, why are they teaching you this?
And my dad was sitting there. My father, he was in the South Pacific during the war. It finished up in Okinawa. Very, very much an ugly situation. I said, say, dad, when you're over there in, South Pacific and, the the Japs came forth like demons from hell, did they try to write a teach you about their religion and what they believe and help you understand them so you could, deal with them better? He just said no. I said, what did they teach you? He said, well, we had to kill them before they killed us. That's all we that's all we do, and they didn't try to teach us anything else. Well, that's warfare. If you're truly in warfare, the talking's over. Understanding is over if you're truly in warfare.
And if warfare has been, properly declared according to our constitution, which it hasn't been since World War two, but I'm making the point. War drives men to the extremes. It has to. You're either in the fight or you aren't. It's either black or it's white. We've borrowed the issue. When you go to court, it's the same thing. You borrow the issues down. You have pretrial litigation. Why? To try to get down to the bottom of the question, the question question at the bottom that controls all other questions. And once you get there, litigation becomes simple. It's black and white and up and down. We don't ask the jury to come up with a treatise and a a a bunch of philosophical legal BS about why they did that. We don't care. All we want the jury to tell us is guilty or not guilty.
That's war. That's the way warfare operates in trial. And our common law country is trial is, battled by trial before the jury. And we all all we want is yes or no? Yes or no? Make it simple. We've dialed it down. Same thing in politics. When you go to vote, you know, ancient lady, they used to throw a black rock or a white rock in the ballot box. Ballot. Ballot. So old Latin based word means what's related to our word ball. It means to throw. You throw it in the ballot box. The ballots where you throw the pebble, you know, ball, ballot, same, same, fundamental word with the same fixed meaning that governs all of its uses and the range of its uses, but it means to throw. And so you throw your little pebble in there. You punch yes or no on the referendum. You punch this, this candidate or that one. And that's the end of it. You're not not given a space to describe why. I mean, you can do that in other place if you want, but when it comes right down to the final push, warfare. This is what governs warfare. It's in or out, up or down. There are no trophies or ribbons for second place. No red ribbons for second place. You either win or you lose. You either die or you live, and that's the end of it. And that's what life comes down to at every point, my friends.
And if you can't see that in politics, you're nothing but part of the problem. You're nothing but slush. You're just bouncing back and forth to listen to people talk about when DJ Trump arrived on the scene. One guy's arch conservative. He said, well, I didn't vote for Trump, first time around. A lot heard so many Republicans say so many different things and never come through on any of them. The only difference between the Republicans and Democrats here, the Democrats wanna drive off the cliff at 80 mile an hour. Republican just wanna drive off the cliff at 40 mile an hour. That's the only difference, which is fundamentally true, of course.
But when Trump came up, they said, I didn't believe it. I didn't this, and I didn't that. Well, then he came through, appointed the Supreme Court justice like he said he would, and they over and those justices then became the reason that Roe v Wade was overturned. Mhmm. When you're in politics and who wants to hear? I hear the downfall of Newt Gingrich. And Newt Gingrich is somebody I became familiar with, but I was running for congress at that time. I was in his office, talked to different people in his staff and him. And Newt Gingrich, among many other things, failed ultimately because he tried to educate America.
That's really why why he was always trying to tell some story from history and give a lesson. Now he can do that as a professor. He can do that someplace else, but in politics, people don't care. They wanna know in or out, up or down. Their lives are too busy. They're not a bunch of philosophers and historians, although they may like it. And they they and, you may be the exception to that. Maybe you liked it when he tried to explain everything, but he was wrong in many cases anyway, and his explanation and his spin on the facts. He had a lot of problems that, I wouldn't I wouldn't want him in office at all now that I understand who he is and who's who he's surrounded with. But what I'm saying is what I'm saying is, in politics, it's down and dirty. We gotta fight. And who's got time to listen to a lecture on history or a treatise on legal philosophy?
There are places for that. Maybe this is one of those places here, Roger. We talk about a lot of things here, but, just to make the point, it's war. But all of life, again, all of life comes down to that. When Jesus Christ said to Peter, he said, okay, Peter. I just got one question for you. Who do men say that I am? Well, some people say you're Elijah come back from the dead. Some people say you're this. Some people say, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I wanna know who you say I am in or out up or down black or white. Yes or no. Am I who I say am or ain't I?
And Peter amazingly, everything shifted and he said, thou art the Christ, the son of the living God. He got away from being the, the hard, hard and rustic fishermen. And he said something very profound. A matter of fact, most profound statement ever said from the mouth of man that didn't know much about education at all. Never been to school probably. I don't know if he even knew how to read or write. He may may learn little. I've read, some of his writings, by the way. They're in the Bible. And, very profound as a matter of fact. Of course, he'd been with God in human flesh. I suppose that would make it that way. But it comes down to there's just one question here. One question. You get that question right. And if you really believe the answer to the question, if it's the right answer, everything else in life, you'll be tended.
You'll be put it this way. You'll be right headed, right headed. Your nose will be pointed in the right direction. Yes or no? Is Jesus Christ who he says he is? Is he God in human flesh? Is he the Christos, the Christ, the son of the God that is alive as as as contrasted with all the law givers, all the gods that are statues and icons and and people holding high office like the Pope or the president of the Mormon church, or who who's the final decider of right and wrong here? The final arbiter that isn't obligated to tell you anything but right and wrong. We can tell you why if he wants to, but arbiter. I mean, he like a jury, they give you the verdict. That's it. They're not obligated to tell you why they can't, if they want, but they have no obligation. That's the way our, our maker is. He has no obligation to tell you anything. He doesn't want to, except he's chosen to tell you right from wrong. And he's given it to you in two volumes, the laws of nature unwritten in the nature of creation. We've talked about it a while ago, for example, the laws of genetics, the laws of crystal formation. Everything operates in our created order, seen and unseen according to exacting laws. The laws of nature, our common law being a slice of that. And the laws of nature's God, the Bible. He's given us that. And sometimes he does tell us why he does what he does, but there are a lot of things he does not, he does not tell us, but he made us. He knows how we operate. And if I were gonna buy a new automobile, new pickup truck, a new rifle, a new lawnmower, I'd get a book with it. And it would tell me how to operate the thing. It wouldn't tell me everything, but it give me the fundamentals so I know how to deal with some fundamental things. Well, God's done the same thing. He made us, and he gives us a book. He made and he gives us the laws of nature around us to apply it to. And the two are necessary. You can apply you can apply what he says in the book, which is final, right, by the way, the final court of last resort to your environment around you, the laws of nature, the laws of nature. Well, Roger, that's what I see what's with what's going on with DJ Trump. We're we're at war, as we always are. We always have been at war. We remain at war.
And, those of you that think that Trump is gonna gonna be the messiah and solve your problems, think again. He won't. He's only gonna be there shortly probably. And he's not the messiah, but we have a reprieve. God uses men like him even when they don't know it, of course. Maybe he knows some things, maybe he doesn't. He's not he's not a paragon of morality. That's clear. That but as I like to say, I think I said this last week, he's not Sunday school
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superintendent. He's president of The United States. Back to you, Roger. Well, you know, the unusual thing about mister Trump as you look back on it, and I talked to the audience here about this, he's gotta be one of the cleanest guys in the country. He's been through he's been through two impeachments. How many trials did in the warfare thing? Five, four, five? Yeah. Yeah. If they could have brought any found anything detrimental, they would have brought it forward, and, evidently, they couldn't find anything.
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Well, they did bring a lot of things forward in the first, when he ran the first time. And what they point out was that he wasn't a criminal, but he, he was, well, he was just, male. Maybe that's the way to say it. That's a good way to put it. I'm very male. Yeah. Very male. But, you know, people are hungry for that. See? Because, the whole world is going female. Yeah. Well, it's the females that are hungry for the male thing right now. That's right, too. That's right, too. But the more that we have the female and the upfront positions in Congress on the news shows, showing their legs and doing all the things girls like to do, and men like it too, of course. Doing all those things, getting the money coming in, trying to get the ratings up a little bit.
All those things, the more they're upfront, the more men will act like women. The more they will talk like women. I'm shocked. I've talked to young people about this. The way women talk, women talk like women, they don't talk like men. And of course, if that's all you hear talk, you'll talk like a woman. It's getting that way, by the way. Men aren't talking. Women are talking. And so the the speech of men, you know, coming up in America, younger and older too, is rather limp wristed. It's rather light in the loafers. It's rather faggy. Yeah. And that's not a good sign, but the more that that happens and by the way, just to point out, again, Roger, we come back to this often because it is fundamental.
Isaiah says when women and children rule over you, that's what we have. That's what we're having increasingly. That's the judgment of God. And and the women, the women, God will not judge them for that. He will judge the men. That's what the Bible teaches. Unfortunately. One of you street here. What?
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Unfortunately, that's true. You know? And I've mentioned this to you years ago, Brent, when I was in Argentina. Uh-huh. And, Christina Kirschner was, Kitchener, whatever her last name was, was her husband had been president before he died. So she was a senator. They were married. She moved up into the, president Presidenta. K? Yeah. So because we got these male and female things, in Spanish. So she's Presidenta, and, she went out. The first thing she did was give all the school kids in the country those little eight inch comp portable computers that used to be around. Yeah. But she gave one of them to everybody. Oh. To the to the school kids. Yeah. And then she got an app written for cell phones where they could go into stores and see high prices and take a picture, and it would automatically send it to the government because they were inflationary.
Well, they're the ones that are pumping all the money up. The retailers got no choice to raise the prices or go bankrupt out of business. So there it was right there. They'll rule over you, and she's using them, and they'll be your oppressors. And they were when she was in office at eight years down there. Yeah. When she got the day she left Yep. And they got a guy Macron in, who was the, ex president of, one of the big soccer teams down there called Boca Juniors. And, so the day she got out, she was from Southern Argentina. And this is on zero edge, man.
They had pictures. They had twenty one Brinks trucks go to the airport and come back loaded with cash and with the pocket in the bank. Pictures of it.
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21.
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20 one bridge trucks. I reckon. Does that make a guy happy? I don't know. I I guess. Yeah. You know, this this wealth thing is it's the wealth thing that corrupts people's minds.
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Well, wait, Roger. Now we've been through this. You know what I'm gonna say. It's the love of the wealth that corrupts people. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Not the wealth itself. It's an inanimate object that can't do anything. It's neutral.
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It's a tool. What makes them think they can be gods? See. Yeah. We have a few people. Do you remember there's a rabbi about a hundred years ago? He was the, the head rabbi and had a lot of publicity named Stephen Wise. Have you ever seen his name? Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, he was a real Zionist, you know, hook, line, and sinker. And he's the one that came out public. He said, the Jewish people are their own messiah.
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Well, no. I get the point. All false religion will have a false Messiah. And a lot of times, you know, I read a book years ago called, the Messianic Nature of American Education. In other words, people were saying, and I still hear this said sometimes, education is the answer. No, no, no. Education is not the answer. Depends on what education you're talking about. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, come on. And then also of course, the only real answer is Jesus Christ. There is no other answer. Yeah. I remember reading a story years ago about, but if a people, a false religion will say, well, we are our own Messiah and all that. I wrote about a fellow, he was a German fellow in Germany.
And, he survived the war. He was a prominent man, an influential man, a public man. What stuck in my mind was not who he is exactly. I guess it'd be nice to remember all those things, but he was sitting at Bresnan or someplace and looking out over what was a city. Nothing but piles of rubble, you know. And, of course, the whole country was devastated and it's been seventy some years now, and the country is still gone. It's going downhill more. And, he said, if Jesus Christ isn't real and if Jesus Christ doesn't matter, or he sat and looking at the rubble, he said, nothing matters.
That's my conclusion after the war, nothing matters. This is crazy. How could this happen? Well, God is sovereign. That's how it happens. And then you got to ask yourself why and try to come up from his word, his revelation, why these things happen. I think that it becomes pretty obvious. There's some, some overarching reasons that, that you can always cite and that'll get you started and that'll relieve some tension in people's, in a, in a, in the mind. Number one, God does everything he does, everything he does. I mean, there's nothing that happens that he doesn't allow to happen or cause to happen or both. And you can look at it either way. It really comes down to the same thing. God's behind everything, the true God, the creator of all things.
Why does he do what he does? Why does he allow it to happen? What he allows, however you want to frame it. He does it for one reason, to glorify himself. To make himself look in the eyes of men and angels like what he really is, and to bring it forward so that they will praise and worship him and no other. That's what it comes down to. That's what the Bible says. The glory of God, the glory of God. I will get me. God said, Yahoa, his name. I will get me honor on the back of Pharaoh. That's what he said. I set Pharaoh up just so I could show how I could tear him down. That's what he said. That's what he did. He proved it. Then the record of history is irrefutable.
It's overwhelming embarrassment of evidential Our Bible is an overwhelming embarrassment of evidential fact. And the evidence that supports its veracity at the manuscripts and the number of them, the sheer number of them and the consistency between them is so overwhelming that it's impossible for anybody who is being honest to deny what the book says. Matter of fact, the best attested evidence in all of ancient history is the Bible. There's not another set of writings that even comes close to having the evidence behind it that the Bible has. When I say evidence, I don't mean in archeology. I mean, manuscript evidence.
Now, if you can get the writings, the, the Greek historian tactus, technetus, if I said it right, People just take that for fact. They Josephus. They take that for fact too. Oh, it's just fact Bible. No, we got to tear that apart. Did you know Josephus and Tacitus and those fellows, which have given us historic evidence that is reasonably reliable according to all the rules of evidence. But in each of those cases of all the ancient Greek and Roman writers, they would there's never any more than anywhere from about six at the most. No six to about 20 manuscripts of their writings available to us. And among those manuscripts that are available, there are woefully inconsistent, all sorts of variations that change everything.
The Bible doesn't have six to 20. Matter of fact, the piece of ancient literature that has more manuscript evidence than any other except the Bible is the, the Iliad of Homer. The Iliad of Homer was written about August and there are about 600 manuscripts of the Iliad of Homer. That's more than any other ancient writing except the Bible. How about the New Testament? How many manuscripts do we have with that in the original tongues? Almost 6,000. Almost 6,000. And they hardly have any variations at all. Matter of fact, you could take all well, there are variations that would make a difference. Right? You take all the variations and put them on a 10 type on a half, page of, half a page of, typing paper, and those variations wouldn't change anything. There are, you know, things like, a word would be spelled with one vowel different or something, that kind of thing. There are variations that don't don't have, don't make a difference. But in the Iliad, the variations make a difference in the facts, but not in the Bible. Not not in the Bible. And even those that hate the Bible admit that the variations do not change any fundamental doctrine, any, anywhere.
And, so we have this evidence that is irrefutable. We, that means it's, it has no error of fact. We can rely on it. And when the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the son of God, you say, well, that does say in his God. Well, if God is your father directly by the conception of the, of his spirit and he is spirit, the Bible says, if that's what it is, then the godhood of Jesus Christ, that's the way he was conceived according to the record, which is irrefutable, but that's the way he was conceived. The God, his godhood is infinite.
The Godhood overwhelmed almost all other things. He become primarily, he becomes foremost. Oh, Steve becomes overwhelmingly things in the Bible says he is Jesus Christ is the creator of all things, but it comes down to that one thing. People say, are you a creedal Christian brand? I say, yes, I'm a creedal Christian. Well, what do you mean by that? I mean, the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the son of the living God. That's my creed. And that means he is, he is a member of the Godhead. And we can follow that through more, but right now it's enough to know that people fell down and worshiped him. And he didn't say no, which would, if he, if he hadn't been God, that would have been a violation of the first commandment. Thou shalt not have no other gods before me. Jesus Christ accepts all worship for the godhead. As a matter of fact, and all authority in the godhead of three persons has been delegated to him in land and in the sky, all judgment and all authority.
And he doesn't give it to anybody else that way. No. Not all of it. Not all of it. And and the pope of Rome says he has it all, and his official proclamation says Jesus Christ has given him all authority down here on land. He hasn't.
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That's Well, I sure wouldn't want that time for Argentina ruling over me. I'm telling you.
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No. I have the same Bergoglio? Yeah. No. I have the same feeling. Well, Roger, just wanted to say that here's what I'm gonna do if it's all right with, you and Paul. Is Paul still there? Oh, he's always here. Okay. I was gonna just say, well, about ten minutes till. I wanna talk about commonlawyer.com, and I want you to give you a website as well, Roger. Oh, well Why don't you go ahead and do that? Give you Well, I was thrilled last night because,
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Dave David asked me, Dave and Kaye down in Alabama, if I could promote their website. They've spent a lot of time setting up, and we've got Myrka with her Telegram channel and all those kind of things. And I'll be darned if Jeff Rents did come up with it. He'd gotten that somehow, I guess, off my website. And so I I got to to promote Dave and Kay's channel on his show last night and, of course, ours. And it's the matrixdocs.com. And it's, it's a hastily put together website out of necessity a couple of years ago because we didn't have one. And Paul came along and took this stuff and threw it all up there. I mean, we didn't take a bunch of planning and scheming. I'm sure there's some of that involved, but generally, just thrown up there out of necessity.
And, we haven't gone back and changed it. And I I'm more the on the information. Oh, that's a really slick website. Okay. Great. I I I want the information there. K? It's just the way I am. So that's, of course, the matrix docs, d o c s or d o x. Slick Paul here has got it set up where even if you misspell the thing, it'll get you there. Okay? A clever a clever turn. And, so that's us, and we're here to answer your questions. I mean, we're here to talk and do radio and have a good time and, cover very interesting topics and subjects if we don't have the main stuff in front of us, which is students asking questions. How how I can't understand this. Well, that's what we're here for. But if those folks aren't here, then we're gonna go off and cover other stuff, and we we must be doing something right because these people keep coming back, Brent.
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Well, we hope we don't run them off. I mean, it's one thing. You wanna tell the truth, and, you're gonna get persecuted for telling the truth to varying degrees, but you don't wanna just make it worse on purpose. You know? You just wanna say the truth best you can and hope that you can keep saying it. Well, that's thank you, Roger. Did you give your website, though? Yes. Dmatrixdocs.com.
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There you go. D0x or d0cs. Either way, as I said, Paul's cleverness, preempted a mistake. So good on you, Paul.
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Okay. Well, this is Brent. Brent Allen Winter is commonlawyer.com. W w w Common lawyer Com. And you can go to the website and take advantage of the resources there. You can attend church with us on Sunday morning on the Internet. Just use your cell phone, your iPhone, or your your computer, and you can see me, but I can't see you. But you can, chat and communicate with other people. We're going through the book of Jude on Sunday, Apostasy, the Unforgivable Sin, the theme of the book, the la next to the last book of the Bible. That's important to note, I suppose. But anyway, apostasy, the unforgivable sin, and how to stay away from apostates, people that have committed the sin. That's the theme of the book. And how to recognize them more importantly.
How to recognize them because they're dangerous. Once you've committed the unforgivable sin, you don't care anymore. By the way, I tell people, Roger, if you think you may have committed the unforgivable sin and you're sweating over it, don't worry about it. For the people that committed the unforgivable sin don't care. The devil doesn't care anymore. He's apostate. He he's committed the unforgivable sin. His demons also, they don't care. It's just do whatever we can. It's just pedal to the metal. Like the Biden administration. I don't know if you noticed, Roger, but the Biden administration, they had the pedal to the metal.
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Anything goes. Of course. As quick as they could do it.
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Yeah. Like one fellow said, we saw nothing but clowns on unicycles. Every direction we look, it was just Yeah. Madness. We were living in la la land, and it was destroying the country, and they weren't doing anything. They were just sitting by, enjoying all the largesse, and doing nothing. Just letting it go to hell in a handbasket. Well They were stealing money hand over fist. Oh, yeah. Enjoying the largesse. Yeah. The money. Well, you can go to commonlawyer.com and take advantage of the resources there. The winterized version of the Bible, a a common lawyer translates from the original tongues and annotates 35,000 footnotes approximately over 200 appendices, tracing major themes through the warp and the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible. You can get it in hard copy. You can also get it in digital form. You can do word searches.
But then also the book, excellence of the common law, 958 page comparative law text comparing and contrasting our law of the land, our common law with the law of the city. The civil law, the canon civil laws of Rome, which govern every country in the world in our day, except the handful, small handful of common law countries. But you can get a handle on that. I think people read it, to their home school, to their home school students, their children. It's not it's not above, above and beyond. And, I I'll admit I'm educated beyond my intelligence, but that particular book has been popular with homeschool moms. They read it to their children so every day. And, I get a handle on the two grand traditions of religion, law, and government in the world. The only two there are really. Everything is either tending toward the one or toward the other. And then also, you can take law classes there. Roger, you can take, law classes. We have many of them in the can.
The law school, Winters Inn, trying to teach the courses that I should have been taught in law school, plus courses common law courses I was taught, common law of evidence, constitutional law. Right now, we're teaching a course on Christian nationhood. Is it a reality in history? Has it ever existed? Are we a Christian nation? Do we need to remain a Christian nation if we are? How do you become a Christian nation? Do you become a Christian nation by official proclamation or by historic accident? That's those are important questions. Which is best, by the way? What's the oldest Christian nation in the world? Do you know the answer to that one, Roger? The oldest Christian nation. Army? That's right. Uh-huh. But, of course, that was by official proclamation.
That's Christian nation by. America is not a Christian nation by. It's a Christian nation by fact. This is just what happened to us. We haven't made any official proclamations. There our courts have recognized it. Last week, we went over the the case 1892, just Supreme Court of the United States Justice Brewer said, in making the observation, that's what courts do, make observations. He said, clearly, undeniably, America is a Christian nation. Well, that's easy. Of course, it is. All of our institutions, all of our education at that time, and it began to wane some after World War one.
People cite by the way, Roger, people that study the matter cite, America's decline as a Christian nation beginning in the year 1913.
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Oh, boy. And I I totally agree with them.
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Obviously, why? Because of the international influence of banking that came with the Federal Reserve Act and the income tax. But but we reached a peak according to polls, a peak of our Christianity in America, the people claiming to be Christian in 1975, Amazingly, I think that was a last push of Christian folk to say, no, we are Christian. And, we still are obviously our instant, our common law tradition for crying out loud is a Christian tradition And everything about it is comports and is compatible with the Bible. Everything that I see in it, and I've been involved in it for a few decades. Well, you can go to the website and take advantage of those things there. Commonlawyer.com.
Join us on Saturday. Join us on Sunday. Teaching through the book of Exodus on Saturday. And we're in the 10, the ten first principles of God as the Hebrew puts it. And,
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don't fill the audience. So Sunday, they're so entertaining to me, Brent, because you go off on all these stories and stuff, which we love to hear. And, and and then you mix the message in with it, and it's, well, if you don't have a church home, I've said it before, you ought to check out Brent on Sundays over on Patriot Him and Francine. Francine play us a song. Roger.
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Mhmm.
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Miss Francine's always with me. She got my back. She knows how to pick out good music. We play music. Well, she does. It's church. That It's church, and we've adapted to, technology technology
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to the whole church. She warmed the cockles of my heart last week. She warmed the cockles of my heart last week when she played that Japanese band playing jambalaya. Oh, they were fantastic.
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That was rich on it. They're good at it. They're really good. They work now. You know, there we've discovered. I travel a lot as you know, and I ask people. I have some classic questions I ask. And, of course, every people I meet that are new to me, they never heard me ask these questions. I've been doing this for decades. And mrs. Brent, you know, she watches me do this. She she's used to it. She's heard it all, but I'll get to talking to somebody at a gas station, cash register or something. I'll say, say, I'll ask you a question. Yeah. What is it? You got do you got religion? Do you got religion? And, you get all sorts of answers.
But some people say, of course, they'll say, yes. I'm a Christian. Well, what kind of Christian? I mean, you're a bible believing Christian, but we're gonna have to quit. I hear the whistling. Well, no. We gotta let we gotta say goodbye to Chicago or England or somebody. So we'll pick this up memory peg where we are right there, Brett.
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Right. Okay. We've gotta say goodbye to Radio Soapbox brought to us by our buddy, Paul, across the drink, across the pond, whatever. To follow us in at the second hour, please go to eurofolkradio.com. You can go to the matrix stocks dot com and, click on the Global Voice Network, GVN on Podholme link. That'll take you right to the radio stream. Or you can join us live on the show using free conference call with the links that are there. Thanks so much for joining us, Radio Soapbox.
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Ciao ciao, folks. Ciao. Brent, Where you remember where you were because I've got something to inject here. Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Well, inject it, and then I'll pick up. Okay. Well, the other night, I was listening to, some of Paul's our buddy Paul's shows. And not this past week, but the week before. And I think Paul our Paul here, Beaner, was distracted that week with truck something or doing something, and he wasn't over there with him as much. Well, Paul is now investigating Black Stone's commentaries, and he doesn't know much about it. And and, Paul, you need to get a hold of Paul and tell him to get Brent over there, and he'll fill you in on Black Stone's commentaries because, man, it's interesting. Okay? And he was he was fawning all over him. He said, I've never read this in the first fifteen or 20 pages. He he loved his communication style and his writing style and all that stuff, and they need your information over there on that, Brent.
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Yeah. Well, Blackstone, four volumes usually. Oh, let me say this. At the outset, in case Paul's listening or somebody else, it's good to have, the lay of the land before you go to Blackstone a little bit. And, in the book, comparative law text, excellence of the common law, I have a complete section on Blackstone. Just to give the lay of the land to who he was, why he did what he did, how he did it. You know, he didn't he didn't he delivered lectures at Oxford. Mhmm. You see, way back in the in the thirteen hundreds, John Wycliffe, the more star of the reformation of the church and government in England, Professor at Merton College called them, still yet today, called the flower of Oxford scholarship, a doctor. That was a big deal, to be a doctor of the church. That would like being an apostle. He was all those things. Nobody could match him, but he finally got the idea that the Bible was final. The pope wasn't final.
The Bible is the final court of last resort, and he ended up translating the Bible into English for the first time. He didn't have the original manuscripts because the the fall of Constantinople when Constantinople fell in fourteen fifty three AD, the manuscript so many of the manuscripts, got out before the 80,000 Turks blasted a hole through the wall there, got in, slaughtered everybody, got out, and those manuscripts in the original tongues, the Koine Greek of the New Testament got to Europe. And within two years, Koine Greek was being taught at, the major universities in Europe. And Rome didn't understand. Of course, they universities are products of Rome. They wanna put their spin on the facts. See?
And universities were designed in the tenth century. First university of the the world was commissioned at a place called Bologna, Italy. Say today that that's baloney. That's a reference to the world's first university. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney, we say. Things like that. Well, Blackstone was educated at Oxford. Oxford was a university. It was a product of Rome, and the common law had never been taught there. The common law didn't have a place to be taught in England, and that's why the ends of court arose privately.
The pry, the practice of law in a common law country is a private endeavor. It, and the bar associations are private. Of course, there are always problems that come with that, but just be happy that our lawyers are not government employees like they are everywhere else so much. And they're getting that way, of course, in England more and more. Law is a private endeavor in our common law tradition and the heart of our common law tradition is private litigation between private parties. That's what our common law fundamentally is. The government's involved that ruins everything. That's why we don't need government to be involved, period.
Just stay out because when you get involved, you think you have to run it all. I know how you are now. DJ Trump's doing that a lot though, but he's exercising his powers to give executive orders to employees of government. Keep him He's a hell, he's a hell of an administrator
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right there in front of everybody.
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And and those executive orders are not to you. They're to employees of government. That's what executive orders are. And he's issuing orders to stop a lot of stuff, not to make, not to pass legislation to get more government stuff. You know, the old thing Reagan plowed the ground for DJ's drop. Yes, he did. Grace Bush. Ron Paul. Right. Yeah. Ron Paul plowed the ground in a lot of ways. Yeah. One sows and and Ron Paul sowed, and they sowed and plowed and sowed. Another reaps.
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Maybe this is the time you can reap. Well, maybe so. There's a whole movement to give Ron Paul the medal of honor, especially after Biden, gave it to the the scum that he did. So you may see that pretty quick. By the way, here's another interesting. They're floating Ron Paul to be head of the Federal Reserve. Trump has put, there's a there's an act in Congress to nationalize the Federal Reserve, and Trump is pushing it. He's Yep. He's fired 50% of the IRS employees and closed a 20 offices.
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Good gravy. Well, that's good news because Congress, not the president. According to our constitution, Congress has the power to collect taxes. Ain't that amazing? Correct. Well, why don't I but let's get I've got a lot to to talk about here. I appreciate and I like to talk about this, but I wanna finish what I was talking about before. Okay. Go back. Yeah. And I was talking about I'd ask people questions, you got religion, and then we get into other conversations. And I discover that there are a lot of Christian folk out there that are Bible believing Christian. When I say Bible believing, I'm talking about the Bible is the court of last resort. That's Bible believing. If you say, yeah, I'm, I believe the Bible, but I believe in church tradition. I'm a Greek Orthodox and all the, these icons out here. I like to venerate them and they, they split this hair between veneration and worship and all that baloney.
Get out of here with that stuff. You know, I, I wanna make another comment about Greek Orthodox. Greek Orthodoxism and Romanism is growing in our country. Yeah. And, the Greek Orthodox, the people that are even the well known leaders in Christianity are going to the Greek Orthodox church. Hank Hanegraaff, the Bible answer man for years on the radio of Dutch extraction. I believe he was a Dutch immigrant, if I remember right, when he was a boy and he is now a Greek Greek Orthodox and Francis Chan of the CME, not the Simi Valley, but, well, there's a, yeah, the Simi Valley, there's San Fernando Valley, then off, off to the side is the Simi Valley, which has grown real big now.
When I was out there forty years ago, it was just getting started. But, he was a famous evangelical pastor, a Chinaman from Chinatown in, San Francisco. Very much Christian man, Bible believer. Well, now he is toying with the whole idea of the Greek Orthodox Church. What's wrong with the Greek Orthodox Church? You know, people say the Greek Orthodox or the Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox, whatever Orthodox they want to call it. I guess it's best just to call it the Eastern church because all of fundamentally the church split into two parts and the Eastern church says we're the ancient church. We're the church that was there from the beginning. That's hogwash.
The church was one big group in the Roman empire and they finally split East and West and the Greek Orthodox church wasn't around until they split. And doesn't say that they're the ancient church. No. They aren't. And the ancient church didn't promote all the things they do. The mass, the sacrifice, the bloody bloodless sacrifice, the mass, like mass, like Rome. That's all a slap in God's face is spitting on Jesus Christ. That's what that is. Call it for what it is. If what Jesus Christ didn't did wasn't enough, then he's not who he says he is. What he did was enough.
Matter of fact, as the, as reformers used to say, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is sufficient for all men to pay for the sins of all men, but it's only efficient for the elect. That's right. Because he's God, as I said while ago, he has the infinite, he has an infinite nature of infinite worth of infinite efficiency and of infinite reach in what he does. And when he hung his head nailed to that post called the crucifixion, when he hung his head, his last words, do you remember his last words, Roger? Forgive them father. They don't know what they do. Close. That was close to the end, but that wasn't quite the last ones. The last words were it
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is
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finished. Right. You got it. It is finished. Yep. Yep. Now that didn't mean some people say, well, in the Greek text, you, that means he's saying I am finished. No, no. Oh, no. I, it doesn't mean that. It means it is finished. What, What is the, the antecedent of it? The payment of sins. I came to do what I did and that word finished by the way, to even make this to drive this home even farther, that Greek word, that's the tongue God chose to communicate this to us in and originally written, means the extreme in all up. Here's it's a word that was written on receipts in the Roman empire. Oh, in to mean paid in full. Okay.
That's simple. Paid in full. What's paid in full. The debt for the sins of my people. God's people is paid in full. Is it paid in full for people that aren't God's people? No, it's not. It's not paid in full unless they, they appropriate, unless a person appropriates it. Let me put it in the terms of the Bible. Jesus Christ said all all that the father has sent to me, come to me. No provisos, nobody fallen through the cracks. All that the father, the other member of the Godhead has sent to me, come to me. And then he says also, and whoever comes to me, I will in no way, in no manner, throw out, cast out.
Ballo, throw out all that the father gives to me, come to me, period. No exceptions. This is God speaking here. He's speaking truth. The record is irrefutable and reliable. As a matter of evidence, all that, the father, gives to me, come to me and those that come to me, I will in no wise cast out. And he also says of all that in the, in John 17 of all that come to me, I lose none. I've lost any except he makes one per one exception. One exception. The son of perdition. Who's that? Judas. He's apostate. He's apostate. He's lost and there ain't no second chance. It's all over, but to cry in for the apostate, but he came, but Jude and Jesus Christ said, Judas came for ordained of God for a special purpose to betray me so that I would be delivered into my hands of my enemies so that I would give myself up for the sacrifice and the people that are the, the nation of priest Israel, ancient Israel did exactly what God wanted them to do thinking they were doing the opposite.
Listen, God will get out of you what he wants out of you. He gets out of everybody what he wants out of them, and he will glorify himself. Whether he gets them to do a crime like the Israelites or gets them do good. They are the nation of priests that produced and delivered to the rest of us. The Messiah that paid the penalty for our sins and saved us from hell. God, I mean, the for ordination and the ordination and the predestination of God. And then God turns around as he always does after he uses evil acts to get his will, he turns around and judges those that committed those acts. How often did God send the Babylonians to chastise his people, Israel? Well, a few times and other people too, by the way. And then he turned around and, not violated them for having done it.
Now you try to explain that and you won't be able to, you say that's not logical. It's, there's no violation of logic to say that there's no violation of logic. You have to understand. And I say this simply, you have to understand what a contradiction is. Logic is logic. It's not contradictory and contradiction is contradiction And contradiction is simply it's a matter of arithmetic or algebra. If you want to use that, a does not equal non a. A does not equal non a. And if you say a equals non a, that's a contradiction. But if you say a equals b, that's not a contradiction. You don't know what b is, but it it's not a contradiction yet. And when God says those kinds of things and does those kinds of things, it's not a contradiction.
I've often talked to Job of witnesses come by the house, you know, Mormons come by the house and they say, Oh, Jesus Christ can't be fully God and fully man. That's a contradiction. I said, well, how do you figure if I say Jesus Christ is God fully God, and then I turn around and say, Jesus Christ is not fully God. That's a contradiction. My friend a does not equal non a. But if I say Jesus Christ is fully God, and then I turn around and say, Jesus Christ is fully man. Well, that's not a contradiction unless you can show you can't show me it is. No, it isn't. Yeah. I'm not saying a equals non a. If I say that my name is Brent to one fella at a party or a get together, and I turned around to another fella and say, my name is Winters.
Well, the other fellow might've overheard me say that my name is Brent. And he said, no, you, that, that can't be. I heard you say your name is Brent. Well, my name is Brent Winters. Both of them were true. That's not a contradiction. I suppose those are just things to add. Maybe it'll relieve tension in people's minds, but the forthright statements of the Bible are clear. When, when Thomas saw the resurrected Jesus Christ, And he said, I don't believe it. And he said, here, take your hand and thrust it into my side where that Roman put that spear in there. And he said, look at my hands were in my wrist where they nailed me to the post.
And what did Thomas do? Doubting Thomas. We call him, right? Yes. He's from Missouri. He's from Missouri. The show me state. You got to show him here. I ain't going to believe it. And that's right. All that he needed a little evidence. He fell down on his face and he said, he cried out, my Lord and my God, addressing Jesus Christ. And by the way, the construction site of fella named, Granville Sharp, a Brit. Granville Sharp. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Granville Sharp wrote a wrong, long treatise on the right to keep and bear arms in England. That might've been where I heard about him. Yeah. And on the basis of that, our second amendment rest of it, he was just acknowledging the common law tradition, but he also was a student of new Testament Koine Greek. And he, he, fashioned what Greek Greek, students now call the grand bill sharp rule number two, the grand bill sharp rule number two, which says when you have two nouns in the Greek Koine Greek, new Testament or Greek, any Greek text, two nouns joined by the conjunction chi, and they're both in the same case.
They refer, they, they signify the same thing. My Lord, that's a noun, Lord and my God to us in the Greek text. Both of those are in the same case. And then, and is Kai in the middle referring as he points out in many passages, in many contexts, when you have that, that's the grant, the construction referring to the same thing. When Thomas said, my Lord and my God, these talk, he's addressing Jesus Christ while he's worshiping at his feet. Now you can't get away from that. And to be honest with the text, but that's just one example of which there are many, many, many, That's not a violation of the first commandment that he worshiped Jesus Christ.
That's the problem. That's the problem. Well, I'm coming back to talking to people and I ask them all sorts of questions. I got religion. And I find that people that grew up as Christian folk were introduced to the glorious gospel of God as children or teenagers, or became Christian folk when they were younger and have been committed to working within the context of a church of some kind. Don't go to church anymore. And I'll ask them, what do you go to church somewhere? No, they're they're apologetic or sheepish about it. They just say, no, I don't go to church. Why not? And I say, I'm running a poll, which I am. Why not?
People are running from churches all over the English speaking world. The same thing is going on in England, by the way. I've read the articles. I've read the articles and the periodicals about it. Same thing's going on here. What is it? Why aren't people going to church? The reason people aren't going to church, and this is my conclusion having conducted a poll for a few decades, is because they're sick, sick, sick over chicken manure. Fighting over chicken manure. That's what they're sick of. They're sick of fighting over things that don't matter to them. And here's the other thing they want. People are going to churches that are fully committed to the doctrine, the biblical doctrine that says that Jesus Christ is Lord of everything.
Everything. Yeah. Not just a church, not within the four walls. We don't do this on Sunday and do it something else throughout the week. No. Cornelius Van Till was from, Northwest Indiana, the large Dutch settlement up there. And Dutch people up there, historically have done what Dutch people like to do more than anything in the world. Can I give you a guess, Roger, what you might think Dutch people like to do? I I would have no idea put their finger in a dike. Do you remember last week when Paul was on and he read that book that and these two older ladies were describing all the different people in Europe and what they were like. Yes. Yeah. Delightful. It was delightful. You read the line about the Dutch people, and he said, oh, they're they're happy people. They're fat, well fed, or something. I don't remember what it was.
Oh, that's that's the picture you have. And, and, Washington Irving wrote that book. He was a Scotsman of in America, and he wrote that book about, the legend of Sleepy Hollow. Right. Right. Ichabod Crane. Ichabod Crane. He goes page after page after page describing describing this old Dutchman. Everything about him. That's why he's fun to read because he went into such detail, fascinated with this Dutch farmer that lived up old Dutch farmer lived up along the Hudson River to the North Of New York. That was a Dutch settlement. And, but what Dutchman you know, they say America the founders of America were made up of of three primary groups, the English Puritans, Congregationalists, and all those were Anglicans.
The Scotch Irish Presbyterians, the Scots and Scotch Irish Presbyterians, and the Dutch and the Germanic people. And the Dutch and Germanic people settled in New York and the middle colonies, Pennsylvania, primarily, not entirely, but primarily the English people were in New England, of course, and, and Virginia. The the the ones that supported the crown and lost the civil war in England settled in Virginia, like George Washington's grandfather. He supported the crown and fled to America to keep him getting his head chopped off. And then you had the the Puritans in New England.
And it said that when, the Puritans, the English Puritans got anywhere, the first thing they built was a meeting house. A meeting. Very democratically minded kind of people. You know, everybody have a voice, and we'll have a meeting. That'll solve everything. And then when the when the Scotch Irish, when they arrived someplace, the first thing they built was a moonshine steel.
[01:21:25] Unknown:
Yeah. That's true.
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Yeah. And then when, the the Dutch and the Germanic people got anywhere, the first thing they built was a barn. Yeah. That's fundamentally true. And those three groups did make up the fundamental population of America at its founding and set the course for our culture. Those three welded together in a in a in a very, well, a very good way. You know? The Dutch gave us a lot of things. The Scotch Irish gave us a lot of things. The English gave us a lot of things that have become the amalgamation of America in our culture. And that's been, intensely, and by the way, intensely reformed Christian culture.
Well, the Dutch people like to build barns and milk cows. They like to milk cows more than anything in the world. But, I find that even those people, they're they're weary. And they've got they they pride themselves, the reform people pride themselves on getting their doctrine wired right. And they get it so wired right. They get it so hardwired, and everything has to fit just right. They're persnickety about the details. But even they are finding that, this is what I'm getting talking to people. They're finding that the the, the lack of the involvement in all of life is offensive to them. And as Christian men and women, they realize that the Bible teaches Jesus Christ is not Lord of the church only. He's Lord of creation.
And there's nothing. I was going to tell you about Van Till. He was from Dutch extraction. He became professor at Princeton, the foremost proponent of what we call reform Christianity. What is reform Christianity? Well, that's the Christianity that came out of the reformation and it was a cleaning of the house, cleaning house. That's what they did. The reformation like DJ Trump's trying to clean the government. The reformation was, we got to get rid of all the Jesus junk, all the idols, the icons, all the trash, all the liturgy. Let's just get rid of that stuff and move on. It's it's waiting us down. We're, we can't even function anymore.
Too much regulation, too many, too much liturgy, and we're putting too much reliance on it and not enough upon what God said. That's the reformation of God's people. Well, people don't go to church and they, they want, but, but they do go to church. If they can find a church that says the Bible applies to all of life and it governs all, and it is the final word. As the reformer said, the final word for faith and life. There's nothing else. And the two volumes we have that teach that are the laws of nature. It's right in our declaration of 76, the laws of nature unwritten, and the laws of nature's god written. Now Paul said he's wanted to try to read Blackstone. Of course, I commend people to read Blackstone, because you can't understand their common law tradition, unless you have some kind of a, some kind of, a fixed point of, just common law reality. Of course, I would recommend to read my book first, My book first, it will give you a more American point of view. Plus it will give you, but of course I go back to England.
I keep saying it's a book. It's a book about really the culture of England and Britain, not just England, Britain, by a man that's, never been there. That's me. But I try, I found that, high school graduates can read it to their children and homeschool them. And they, they, they like it. It. Read that book. It'll give you a foundation. And then if you want to go to Blackstone, of course, you can go to Blackstone first, if you want, but Blackstone, Blackstone delivered his lectures in, at Oxford. Now, Wycliffe, I said, translated the Bible into English in the thirteen hundreds. And he had a two pronged attack to take his country back. I heard Paul, the Yorkshireman Paul say to me one time on the telephone or we were communicating somehow, maybe it was on the internet. I don't remember, but he just said, I want my country back. Yes. I just want my country back.
Yes. Oh, well I said, my light went on. I said there was a famous Anglo Saxon that said that his name was John Wycliffe. He was from Middle England, Mercia, and he translated the Bible into the Mercian dialect of English because he thought more Englishmen could read that than anything. And if you go to Bible school or seminary in America, you learn about John Wycliffe and how he translated the Bible. And that was really a wonderful story. But there's a lot more to it than that. He didn't just translate the Bible. He said this is a two pronged attack. And if we don't have the both the Bible and the English tongue, and the other thing we gotta have, but this is not gonna work and that we're not gonna get our country back. We've got to have the common law being taught in Oxford.
That was in thirteen hundreds about 1375. He said that the common law had never been taught in Oxford university. Why? Because the universities were the brainchild and product of the Pope of Rome back in the eleventh century. And the purpose of all the universities in the world is to put the code of Justinian of the Roman empire, the Canon civil laws at Rome at the center of the educational institution called the university. And they call it a university because it versus that's Latin for around it revolved, revolved around what, it revolved around the code of Justinian, the canon civil laws of Rome.
The granted, the claim to grant to the Pope all power on earth. Oh, he loved it. He put that at the center and he said, all the colleges like we have today, we have universities, uni. That means a unification of, all the things surrounding a center point. The center point is the code of Justinian, the pinnacle, they said of human reason and logic, not fact notice, not fact, but logic. And then all around it, we held the different colleges, the college of astronomy, the college of medicine, the college of later on geology when that became well known in the eighteenth century. All the colleges have to conform to this perfect standard of logic, the logos they called it. They even stole the name for Jesus Christ in the gospel of John. Everything has to revolve around to that to be consistent with it. Well, Oxford was the same way.
It had never been taught. Well, when the light went on in Wycliffe's head, he said, we gotta have the common law taught, not the Oxford's here to teach the law of the city, not the law of the land. And we gotta do that. So he said that had to be a two pronged attack. Get the Bible into English. Number one, number two, get our common law taught in Oxford.
[01:28:08] Unknown:
White Cliff was saying this in the thirteen hundreds?
[01:28:11] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I mean, you go back and read his dissertations. I have a complete set, Roger. It's kind of fun. I have a complete set. It's in two volumes of the writings of John Wycliffe in English. See, John Wycliffe often wrote in Latin because that's the priestly language. He was trained in. He was trained as a priest and he wanted the priesthood to read it, but he was a great proponent. He'd be an Anglo Saxon. He said, we gotta we people in in England need to learn how to read their own tongue and in the Bible to know what God told them. So he he did a lot of writing in English and I got a two volume set. Now I can sit down and I can read some of his treatises.
It's slow going, but I do a paragraph at a time and I can get through it because the art English is, you can kind of pick it out, but it's not just exactly like ours, obviously. Well, but he, he did that and he said, we want, we gotta get the common law. And I've got a section, Roger. Again, the book excellence of the common law, a comparative law text comparing and contrasting the law of the land and the law of the city. I have a complete section on John Wycliffe. Now, no man understood this better than John Wycliffe. John Wycliffe said there's no way you can take we can take our country back with both of these. Why? Because the common law, the law of the land is the nexus that allows the Bible to be applied to all of life.
There is not called the land law for nothing. It's not about the city. It's about the land, the land, the Lord, your God has given you. He understood that. And I'll tell you something else that John Wycliffe understood. And this is why, of course, Rome, they tried to, tried to get to him to burn him at the stake, you know, but he beat him to the punch and died of a stroke. They buried him. So Rome sent some boys over to dig up his bones and burn them and hold a ceremony. Burn him at the stake, had a trial. That's how vicious the evil empire is. And they're still that way today? Oh, yeah. Never never. Oh, it comes out not just the church of Rome, but that's just one one expression of it. It comes out everywhere.
That the the law of the city. Well, he said that not until over six hundred years later with the common law taught at Oxford and just just with William Blackstone. Yes. But here's how it happened. Of course, the universities still don't teach the common law. And, you have to go to the ends of court in England to get the common law. It's a private, fraternity, kinda. You gotta go there. You can't go to the government to get it done. Oxford is very much entwined with the institutions of the powers that be in England. Of course. Here's what he did. Get this, Roger. This is the way it happened. This is the way God works. Wycliffe wanted it. Didn't happen until six hundred years later.
But, Blackstone was educated at Oxford. So he understood the law of the city. But then to be a to practice in the common law courts, he had to go, through the course of study at an end of court, which took a few years. So he knew that too. He was a common lawyer. He knew both systems really well. And so a wealthy Jewish merchant in England wanted somebody who could really do a good job, deliver a set of lectures at Oxford on the law of the city, the Canon civil laws of Rome and Wycliffe or Wycliffe, Blackstone. This is in the year 1765.
He threw his hat in the ring and he was chosen. And this was an endowment from a wealthy Jewish merchant. And his name was Werner, by the way, Werner. And, he ended up delivering the lectures on the law of the city, but he knew that this was his big chance to try to talk about the law of the land. So what he did was he said, well, the only way to really understand the law of the city is to compare and contrast it with this great antagonist, the law of the land, our common law. So all through his lectures, what he did was talked about our common law in England and how how it governed everything in in England and then compare it every time he'd bring up a subject, he would compare it to the law of the city.
For examples, he said in the beginning, that first volume, he said that the law of the city the law of the land does it this way. The law of the city does it this way. And there's no way you can understand this is true too. You can't understand the law of the land. It's an adversarial tradition. It's not understandable unless it's understood in an adversarial context with its great antagonist, which is the law of the city. So he Question. He, okay. Let me finish my sentence, and then you can, ask you a question, ask a question. And, that's the way he did it. He did it through the back door. And these volumes, which are his lectures printed, have become, the people call them commentaries on the common law. The official title is commentaries on the laws of England, but he he chooses the common law to put forward.
And, that's how that happened. And they're worth reading. And if you didn't read those in America and, anyway, Blackstone is quoted quoted in our courts from 1776 until 1892 more than any other authority.
[01:33:33] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:33:34] Unknown:
That that set the stage for our common law in America. And if you hadn't read it, if you couldn't prove you had read those four volumes, you weren't gonna be a lawyer even on the frontiers of America. The rest of the lawyer wouldn't allow it. Surprisingly. And that we hold on just a second, Annette. That was Abraham Lincoln. You've told that story about how you bought a a barrel, and then it was Blackstone's commentators. That commentaries, that's why he was an attorney. Okay? That that's right. He bought a barrel for 50¢. Sight unseen. Didn't know if it had anything in it, and he reached his bony long fingers down in the bottom of it, and he found some books. He pulled them out, and there's more beat up, wore out, and neglected copies of Blackstone, and he read them.
And next thing you know, he's trying to be a lawyer. Roger
[01:34:19] Unknown:
Okay. I'm Annette, hold on. I got one more insert here that I think is really important. This with Blackstone was the very first time the common law had ever been written down. Now that amazes me. What year was that, Brent?
[01:34:36] Unknown:
1765. That was the publishing of his lectures. Yeah. Holy smokes. He just, he talks about first principles. He doesn't, he cites a few cases. He said, just this is the way we've done it in England. I mean, even, Oh, it's just amazing talking about how the churches were established in England, that common law. And that's an important consideration and that system came to America. And I can talk about that more later, how we built churches and all over the rural America and rural America, became the the culture of Christianity from from, Pennsylvania, clear down the Ohio Valley, Kentucky and Tennessee, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Missouri, Oklahoma.
[01:35:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Kansas. It all it's all came out the same. All over, and especially in the South too. Annette, what do you got, dear?
[01:35:27] Unknown:
He said a name, and I I got past me. What was the name of the one that did the com or the that did the lectures, and he snuck in the common law in his lectures?
[01:35:39] Unknown:
Well, that was William Blackstone. That's what we're talking about. And Blackstone's commentary Werner.
[01:35:45] Unknown:
Oh,
[01:35:48] Unknown:
Werner was the one that hired No. You miss misunderstood, or I may have missed both. Werner is the one that endowed Oxford with a lot of money to pay him to do the study and deliver these lectures. Oh. He was a wealthy Got it. Rich merchant. It's In the front of in the front of Blackstone, Verner has a comment or he or they they attribute the lectures to Verner because he's the one to fund it, but he did not intend his money to be used to promote promote the common law. He intended his money to be used to promote what was central to his religion, which is the law of the city. Uh-huh.
[01:36:25] Unknown:
And see, Blackstone kind of Blackstone kind of fooled a fast turn on him because he said, well, the only way, and I think he's right to teach either one of these bodies of law, is to compare them against each other and their differences. Yeah.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That's right. He Blackstone is clever. And, you know, Annette, hold your question and I'll quit in just a second. Blackstone then was appointed after he wrote those volumes. He was well known. He was appointed to a judgeship and, lawyers in England said that he was one of the, he was a terrible judge. And I'll tell you why he's a terrible judge. And I say this from personal experience, he wasn't a terrible judge. They said that about him. And the reason they said that about him is because he knew the law so well, the common law, he wouldn't play ball and he wouldn't compromise. And if you won't play ball and punt compromise, the rest of the lawyers will say you're no good. That's the way it works. Yeah. I know. I've been there. But go ahead. The question.
[01:37:22] Unknown:
I found I found my answer. It's, v I n e r.
[01:37:27] Unknown:
I was just wondering the spelling. I thought it Well, I'm glad you said that. I would have misspoke and said it was v e r n e r, but, whatever you can find on the Internet is better than what I can come up with probably.
[01:37:42] Unknown:
While we got it open, is there anybody else in the, in the audience that had any questions or comments for Brent or myself?
[01:37:50] Unknown:
How much cheese should I throw at Dutchman? That's what I want to know. Who's here?
[01:37:55] Unknown:
Hey, man.
[01:37:57] Unknown:
I've just been walking around listening to the last hour or so. It's absolutely marvelous. What a it's just fantastic. It's great. I've been walking up and down, and it's the, you know, I've got a little cold as you can probably tell, but, it's just spectacular. I I I can't wait to get around to Blackstone. I've just got this small little pamphlet by some pest called Brent Winters to get through a mere 990 pages or something. So once I've once I've got through this little pamphlet, we'll get stuck into a proper book. Good grief. It's, no. It's fantastic. What a great exposition, Brent. That was marvelous. I learned an awful lot there over that that past hour. Brilliant. Well, we've talked about that before. And when I was listening to your show
[01:38:35] Unknown:
week before last and you're stumbling through there, and I'm going, Paul, man, we've got the answers to all this. And it's a wonderful story, you know. And so that's what I was telling Paul to get a hold of you until you get Brent on, and he can cover this for your audience as you've heard for the last hour. Hour from soup to nuts, man.
[01:38:55] Unknown:
Yep. No. It's it's fantastic stuff. I was I was out with some people on Wednesday evening, couple of nights ago. They kindly bought me fish and chips. I just thought I would let you know. It doesn't mean anything in the great scheme of things. I haven't eaten any for a couple of years. And, they were they were pretty good, actually. And, but there was a gentleman there called Alan who I've got to chase up. He unfortunately, unlike you, Brent, he hasn't written a 900 page book, but I suspect there's one in him, possibly more than one. And we just got talking really about English history and about all of this this thread, this theme. And, there were some tremendous things that came up, really, wonderful things, really about the history of the church in these islands going back really to about thirty five AD, and, which is all to do with centered on Glastonbury. And then all of this route through the Druidic movements, which are often you know, Druids are often painted as dark and evil, but this is not the case. There would have been dark and evil aspects to it, no doubt.
But it's just like any of these sort of historical institutions or thought fields. They have good and bad in them. One of the interesting points that came up was the word law, l a w, and the other word law, l o r e. And it's the common law, as in l o r e, that we were talking about, which is the traditions, you know, the pragmatic applications of these behavior patterns under the laws of God. Whereas what was being discussed, LAW, is a separation of the law into three sections because it stands for these jurisdictions of land, air, and water, LAW. And, and I that's it. That's as much as I know. So as you can see, it's not a lot, but it's a lead in to actually exploring this topic. And what you were saying about universities, I was kind of familiar with much of that. I mean, universalism is a trait of Catholicism, and I've always felt that that aspect of it invalidates it because it's not a universal proposition as far as I'm concerned today.
So but tremendous stuff. Yeah. Really good conversations.
[01:40:58] Unknown:
Paul, maybe you can help me out. I've I've been looking for where the actual roots of land, air, and water is, and I haven't been able to find it. I've been I've been able to find the I've been able to find the origin of the word law. It came from, what did it come from? It came from, admit to lay down, to write, definitions, the roots, and all the all the different languages and stuff where it comes from, the derivatives. And I haven't been able to find anybody that that actually said where the root of land, air, and water is. Meaning I think that's a little bit of a glitch.
[01:41:52] Unknown:
If you wanna go back and start looking at the origins of the law, go back to a Roman guy named Gaius, g a I u s. And Gaius is the one that's attributed with the formation of the law in Rome, Paul. He's, reputedly, he he came up with the law by bending over a lake that was smooth where he could see his reflection and talking to himself with marbles in his mouth. I don't know if that's true or not. That's sort that's the legend. But you can go search. I think he was first person to write books on it, and those were called Gaius' Institutes.
And, and the whole first part of Gaius' Institutes is on the background concept of the word person. So the first set of law books, the whole first part of it is on the word person. You think it might be important?
[01:42:51] Unknown:
It's probably gonna turn out to be important.
[01:42:54] Unknown:
Yeah. The, I'm gonna throw in something else here and see if I get a reaction. And then I only know what I can dig out. And I'll I can tell you what I dug out about it, and then you can put it in the mix. I think it's in the book somewhere. But the way I get it, the Danes, which are the Vikings, bought words to Britain. Of course, they started coming over early on after, the earliest centuries and raiding the coast and killing, plundering, raping, and corp beer. They'd have to come a little further inland because there were nothing left out on the edges, and they just kept coming further. So, eventually, they decided they wanted to stay, and they went to war, of course, did you know. And then then they sit on the throne, some of them. They ruled the country.
But the tongue of the Danes, very much like the Anglo Saxon, those three tribes lived at the same place approximately up on the lower part of the Jutland Peninsula and and up into it, the angels and then just south them this or the Jutes, the angels, and then the Saxons. And, the the Danes had a different little bit different dialect. They had different words for mutton and sheep and a little bit different than the Anglo Saxons. And they had a word that described something that was heavy and had a lot of water in it. We used to say, but home, well, that's heavy. We'd say, well, that's waterlogged.
[01:44:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what it really is.
[01:44:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Waterlogged. And, the word log, what what I found was it's a Danish word, an ancient jute word, and they were called the jutes. And if something was heavy and immovable out in the woods and it was an old log laying there, it was soaked with water. It was called log. And so the idea of things that are immovable was log, and their their word was very guttural. You know, the the, they had a guttural speech like the the the Semites do. They had a lot of things down in the throat and, and, some other people. But they've if it wouldn't move and that's why I said a while ago, law is the way things are, and they ain't gonna change no matter what. That's what law is fundamentally.
And God's laws, the true God, the maker of all things, has made his laws that way. They he doesn't change. The Bible says in Hebrews chapter 13 that he is the same today, yesterday, and forever. And what that refers to, to say somebody's the same, that means they aren't fickle. They don't change. The gifts and callings of God, says the Bible, are without any change of mind on his part. Repentance. Without any change of mind. What he has decreed will come to pass, period. And our forebears on the North Of Europe before they came, those all three of those tribes came, plus the Celts, which came from the same place, a lot of them. They all had this idea that once something was written down on a on a piece of bark or a piece of wood called a rune that, the the shaman claimed he could write things.
Once they did, that happened, it was unchangeable. Unchangeable. It was law, law, and their God was veered. We still say that word weird. We don't pronounce it as hard and harsh. They were harsh people that lived in a harsh environment and were rough as a cob, as we say here in The States. And their speech was that way. And Vird was their God. And their God, they said of Vird, once his decrees went out, and it had two decrees that went out. He had his good spells. We call that gospel. Today, they use that word to put it in the Bible and our translations and the bad spells, the curses and the blessings, the good spells and the bad spells. And once he put those out, there was no change in them. But it is fascinating to end with this. That's law. It is fascinating, to me that in Beowulf, which is the oldest piece of, Anglo Saxon literature, available. And if there's an older one, somebody tell me. I haven't found one.
But, it professed to be as old as it is. It says in there of Beowulf, who Beowulf is that that's the old old, Germanic word for bee and wolf, because they called a bear a beowulf because he was always a bear is always trying to get in, get honey. So they called him a beowulf, but they said Beowulf. And this man's name was Beowulf. And Beowulf says in his ancient, about his ancient religion that the decrees of veered do not change. And then he has this, unless a man doty be. Now there's an old word that probably Paul I'm guessing, Paul, you can tell me that you still use in the old country. I'm thinking dotee.
But, what do I heard go ahead.
[01:47:54] Unknown:
Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I I we would say dote. To dote on something. Oak. D o t e. That's how it's pronounced over here anyway. Yeah. So to dote to dote on someone, to have a longing for something or to provide I mean, I'm just making this up. I haven't really got the definition in front of me, but that's my experience of it. You know, to to provide consistent attention on a thing and to think about a thing deeply, to dote upon it, almost to the point of harming yourself sometimes. Yeah. So if it was a male female thing, you'd say you were sweet on her. Yeah. And you're doting on her. That's right. Well, it's it's fascinating to me then that a Saxon
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who lived on the continent wrote a song. And he said, he said, that word above all earthly power, no thanks to them, abideth the spirit and the gifts are ours To him who with us sideth. To him who with us sideth. You ask whom that may be. Christ Jesus it is he. Lord Sabaoth his name. From age to age, the same. And he must win the battle. Who that may be? In other words, who is, and this to come from the paganism of of, of these ancient tribes to his realization, who is that man who Dothi be? Christ Jesus. It is he. See, there's a connection there between this ancient religion of these ancient tribes and providing a segue into Christianity. And it's no accident that when Christianity arrived among those people and the Christian scriptures were there by the time of Beowulf, because the, the, the saga of Beowulf refers to the two characters from the Bible like Cain.
And, so we know they had access to them, but God in his sovereignty being the sovereign God, he uses the, even those things from our old pagan past to draw us to the finally to the truth. The man, I like that title to put it in our own culture. The man who doty be well back to, back to whoever wants to talk and I'll take a breather.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
Paul? Paul, might tell you I did a very good job with mister Rintz last night. He's already booked me for next Wednesday and was highly complimentary in the email he sent me this morning.
[01:50:26] Unknown:
That's great. I caught it today, actually, on replay. Oh, did you? So it was very good. Yep. Yeah. Good good stuff. Great. It's a good platform. Hopefully, you can be on regularly.
[01:50:35] Unknown:
It will work out well, actually. A sneaking suspicion I'm gonna be their law teacher. We'll see.
[01:50:41] Unknown:
Professor Sales. I like this. That could be.
[01:50:45] Unknown:
I'm gonna try and get Brent on over there. I can tell you that. Tell Jeff, this guy you gotta get on. Okay? So we'll see where that goes.
[01:50:55] Unknown:
As near as I can find, law of the land, parenthesis, and air and water, close parenthesis, is a term used to describe legal issues related to the environment and natural resources. It could also refer to organizations and groups that work to protect the environment. That that just seems like a stretch. It just it seems like,
[01:51:20] Unknown:
It may well be. The I mean, the chap who was saying this, Alan, I've got to get back to him because I did say to him, you've written a book then. He went, no. And then somebody else chimed in, and they went, no. He hasn't, like, you know, looking at him saying, come on. Get a move on, with all that kind of stuff. And he doesn't have a website and all this, and I've got to have more. It's the first time I'd met him, and someone said, well, you have to meet up with him. Mhmm. And, I enjoyed it a lot. We were just covering a lot of topics very quickly. I mean, we spent quite a bit of time talking about Shakespeare, actually, and the invention or the addition of some it's 20 to 30,000 words into the English lexicon, courtesy of Shakespeare. And according to Alan, his group, it's very interesting who Shakespeare actually was, whether he actually existed as a real individual. I I don't think so.
Actually was, whether he actually existed as a real individual. I I don't think so. I think he's a creation, and the the main creator who did most, but not all of the writing, is Edward de Vere. I'm convinced of Edward de Vere. There is a society over here called the de Vere Society. And what they were talking about was that there was a group of them, and it was all to do with expanding the language. And how do you promote these new words by putting on plays and having people hear them? Because many of these words that the English were hearing for the first time in these plays, they'd not heard before. This this is a fascinating area. Of course, this is also the time of Francis Bacon. People think that Bacon wrote Shakespeare. I doubt he may well have been part of the team. Yeah. That's true. Bacon.
Yeah. So there's something astonishingly, intricate about what was taking place at those times. And this is also just after, John Dee, the court magician to Elizabeth the first. There's something about this period of history in England, but and also, just going back to the Inns of Court and I've gotta go and check all this stuff, so this is just from memory from the other night. But the Inns of Court came about just after Magna Carta in 12/15, and they were to do with creating these centers for people to begin for the for the barons as it were to begin to wangle their way out of Magna Carta. But they can't because it's in perpetuity. It's written down there quite clearly. And, this you know, I heard Brent say earlier, you know, that when we discussed something a long time back, I'd said, I want my country back. Well, to to a greater almost to a % degree, the the nature of this country is wrapped up in that document with if it's applied.
And, of course, they've spent eight hundred years since 12/15 nibbling away at it so that it's some sort of, apparently, it's a dusty piece of paper, but it's not. And, I think the restoration of it as a vigorous, dynamically applicable document is required. And I know it in part, you know, in a different way and focusing in different areas, Roger. That's exactly what your work's about as well. So we're not sure of the truth, and we're not sure of examples from the past when it's been applied effectively and correctly. And this is all tied in, of course, with trial by jury and the true power of a jury as, you know, described and laid down in Magna Carta. Juries are the most powerful law agency that you can have.
So so many interesting aspects. Plunging into this now after not really looking at it for years, but just a whole series of conversations are coming together. And, I am fascinated with Shakespeare as well, particularly as I keep reading it and not understanding it. And this is still going on to this day, you know, because the language is a barrier. Yes. But there is a purpose in it. And it's also linked through to the King James Bible because they were they were designing words to go through into that in parts. So but this is a bit garbled, what I'm saying. I accept all that, so I need a little bit more definition. So, hopefully, over the next couple of months, I'll be able to get some and add a little bit more sensible meat to the bone of it, but there's definitely a lot going on there.
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To throw out another point about Shakespeare, and I haven't followed through with this, but I've always read that Shakespeare did not quote King James Bible. He quoted the Geneva Bible when he in his play. Yeah. I think he did. Yep. Yep. Well, here's here's an even more pressing point to me. When you start to talk, Paul, the image comes up of what looks like an a fried egg. And
[01:55:40] Unknown:
Hey. I quite like that. I like fried eggs, so I'm not offended. Go on. Okay.
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I thought, well, maybe this is some kind of a Yorkshire dish that that you've got a picture of here, and I I wanna know what it is. So I remind you of a fried egg. No. Not you. Not you. The the logo you have.
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The logo. Oh, the logo.
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Yeah. Yeah. When you're talking, it flashes up on Zoom.
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Does it? Oh, okay. I don't know about these things. I'm not looking at anything. I'm just listening to you guys. I try to not look at things when we're talking about it. A fried egg. My god. It's a fried egg.
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Yeah. But it has some symmetry to it. It has some green in it, like there's some kind of herb you put on it or something. Yeah. That's right. It's not right. It's actually the one It's a white rose. Oak in the middle.
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Yeah. It's a white rose of Yorkshire with a yellow the flower right in the center. You know, the the pollen in the center. So that's what it is. It's a symbol of Yorkshire. It's a white rose, and the symbol of Lancashire is a red rose, which is the county to the Is that the to the west of roses? Is this to go back to the War of the Roses? It does. Yeah. This is where it all comes from, the the the Wars of the Roses. But it wasn't Yorkshire men against Lancastrians. It's quite confusing. It's to do with the House of York and the House of Lancaster. There you go. And, many Yorkshiremen fought for the House of Lancaster and and vice versa. So it was a bit of a mix. It was to do with loyalties and to do with family loyalties. I've just been speaking actually earlier today to my brother-in-law, who was taunting me that he's going up to an extremely, excellent fish and chip restaurant tomorrow. This is this is the height of culinary cuisine in England, of course, but I don't really care. We are peasants, and we're quite proud of it. And he said, I'm sorry to tell you this, but I'm off to go and eat the most enormous haddock tomorrow. And I was a bit cross about this, but I can't get up there. It's 280 miles away, so I don't have a chance to get there. Too far.
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So were they fish and chips? Are they fish cooking cod, or you said haddock?
[01:57:36] Unknown:
Oh, no. You can get cod if you want cod. But, if you're a Northerner, you generally will eat haddock. It's a heavier fish. Oh. It's a tasty it's just a better to me, it's just a better fish. But I was raised on it, and then I started eating cold when I came down south. I went, this is tasteless in comparison Right. To me, anyway. Right. And Northerners could eat different as well. We take the skin off. So sometimes you go to a fish and chip shop, and they'll leave the skin on, the fish. Right. Yeah. And my dad used to get cross about this. He said, the cheating boogers, he said, the reason they do that is it stops the fish shrinking. So it makes you think you've got a bigger fish than you've actually got. All these little tricks. So my dad, my dad was cross about those. I'm not coming here again. It it would be enough to never ever go to a chip shop ever again if they did that. It was really funny and great stuff. Wasn't having any of that. Paul, you got something you're trying to insert here?
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Yeah. Yeah. That is disturbing. I did actually find, other things. Law means love and wisdom, lawyer at work, language arts and writing. I mean, there's there's literally a plethora of, leads animation workshop, low activity waste. That's one of my favorite things I identified with that. Laser artillery weapon, landing weight, aviation, league of American wheelmen, ladies against women, local heirs' warring. Ladies against women. Against
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women. Okay. Oh, we can't I can't help them out with that one. That's that's beyond my powers. Sounds like a hair pulling contest to me.
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Yeah. American writers.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Live audio wrestling. Yeah. Let's do live audio wrestling right here on the radio I thought we were doing live audio wrestling. I thought that's fine. I thought this was it. Six days a week here.
[01:59:39] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Glad don't get any better than this. Boy.
[01:59:42] Unknown:
Well, obviously, there's the whistler, and that signifies the end of our public discussion. No doubt it'll go on after the show's over in a minute as we're apt to do, especially when when our friend Paul from across the pond is with us. So thank you very much. We'll be back tomorrow, of course, on the Saturday show. And, as always, we just really appreciate Brent and everything that he brings to us and Francine too even though she didn't play us any songs today. And then to have, mister English drop in as an extra special treat. So thank all of you, and we'll see you tomorrow. And if not tomorrow, we'll see you again soon somewhere. See you on Jeff Rents next Wednesday night in the second segment.
So, that's gonna be a good thing for us, Paul. I I've I what's how's Andy doing? What's Andy got going on?
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Andy's just recording every day. I I wonder how I'll speak to him. Maybe two weeks ago. I I nearly called him today because I saw he was online, but I just got you know, other things happened. So but I've gotta get around and have a chat with him. I think he's just working away. He does a sort of he does a recording every day. Does he? A kind of scanning of the news and things like this. Right. But, I've not seen him for years. We actually met face to face, but I'm trying to remember what it was. Probably about nearly eight years ago or something like that. It's a long time back. Uh-huh. But we did so many shows together over a period of time.
[02:01:09] Unknown:
But he's busy. Yeah. He's busy and focused on things. Well, I thought last week he was he was kinda taking care of his mom. Is is that over? Did she pass or or what?
[02:01:19] Unknown:
No. She's still alive. I think she's in a home now. Fantastic. Yeah. She's in a home, and she's much happier there. And he I think it's much easier for him. So he's very pleased. I think he was understandably a bit anxious about that, not knowing quite how it would work out, but it's worked out well. Yeah. Good. So, you know, it it got beyond his ability to cope with her, and, that's what I understand. But, well, you know, my main thing with Andy is I want him to go live, and he won't do it if he hears this. Really? You're very bad for the he he just he's so he's meticulous about his prep. So that's kind of what we do. And, I don't mind. It's great. That's his style. It's fantastic. I I'm always tempting him and saying, do you wanna come on live at 08:00? Oh, no. I couldn't possibly do that. I'll be in bed by then. Because he gets up really early and stuff. I'm going, what? Okay. What would you mean? He can't go bed at 08:00?
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Or or he is he on speak free or or or or or Soapbox? Or where where have you got him stuck now?
[02:02:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We put him on Soapbox, but it's an inhospitable time for you guys. It's 5AM. He's usually on. York, Eastern. We put him on that time. I'll try and put him on later on in the day. I mean, I never know how long his shows are gonna be. They so they're they're never more than an hour, and he still talks to Peter Hammond.
[02:02:30] Unknown:
That's the guy. That's the one I really like to hear, and Brent knows him. Brent many met him years ago, I believe. Right. He's a sharp guy, Peter Hammond.
[02:02:41] Unknown:
He is, you know, and he is. He's very sharp. He's great.
[02:02:45] Unknown:
No. Go ahead. You were starting to say something, Paul.
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No. That was it, really. I was just gonna say he was sharp and, I know he's had a he had a stroke. He knew? About yeah. He did about four or five months back now. And then, of course, he starts working like a maniac again. And, so I shouldn't fret about these things. Each man to his own, I guess. But, he seems to be okay.
[02:03:07] Unknown:
Seems to be okay. So Good. Well Yeah. I had met him and not that I know him well. I had met him a couple of times out at, in in Colorado, Loretta, and his wife is from Arizona. I don't know. I forget where they met. But nice folk. Nice family. That's what I remember about him. But to bring up something else, I just looked up the white rose of York, and this is no small matter. This is your flag.
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That's right.
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Yeah. I'm looking here. I've got more images than I could shake a stick at. And, of course, it's a beautiful flower, white rose. But then the first thing that came up was a picture of the flag, white rose of Yorkshire, United Kingdom's. Well, it's in the photos, you know, and it looks very much well, you've got the image from your flag. That's what I saw. That's what you put up. Mhmm. Yeah. I see that now. Wow. Boy, simple things like this. Well, I'm smarter because of it. I did not know that. And Well I wanna eat fish and chips, and I wanna eat what is it? What's oh, Yorkshire pudding. Ain't that famous for pudding up there too?
[02:04:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. I was raised on them. Wednesdays were Yorkshire was York at home when I was a a wee lad. Wednesday was baking day, which would always include Yorkshire puddings. And my dad, much to my and my brother's chagrin, not that we could have said that word when we were eight or nine, he would come back a little bit later or maybe at the same time, and his Yorkshire puddings were three times bigger than ours. Oh. He got specially and I would say to my mom, why is dad's Yorkshire pudding so big? She said, because he likes them so much. He's dad. So he gets big ones, all full of onion gravy. Yeah. Very pleasant. And, did Oh, like, back then, we would eat Yorkshire pudding just alone, just as a starter before you eat the stew and everything like that. They put it on the whole roast these days. But, the old tradition was basically you'd have it as a dish in its own right because, you know, we are culinary of a very high standard of there. We not really. But my my mom's home cooking was fantastic. So Wednesdays was was, she loved Wednesdays and hated it because she'd bake all these cakes and everything. And then me and my brother would eat practically everything if we weren't stopped.
Stop eating all that cake. We'd eat a lot, you know. Because when a chocolate cake or a vanilla cake or a Victoria sponge comes out and it's still warm, so you put the cream in it, the cream's slightly melting from the heat of the cake. You show me anybody that can resist that. It's not fair. You can't put that in front of us. It's not right. You know? So
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that's how it used to go. How about that delicious kidney pie?
[02:05:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Steak and kidney pie. Yeah. That's that's great stuff too. All the pies. I was just yeah. My brother-in-law was just talking about this stuff. We always end up end up talking about pies and buns. And I said, is this a theme forever? And I think, really, it is, actually. You go, well, you know, you've you've lived eighty years. What's the best bit? Well, actually, it's the buns, actually. It's the buns and the pies. And he just my brother had just sent him some curd tarts. I don't think you have these in The States. Right? Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So, they're unbelievable.
They're my favorite pudding ever, Yorkshire curd tart. And it uses, you know, from the curds and whey, and it's got raisins in it and a bit of lemon juice. I can't even begin to describe it to you. It's you'd have to look it up to look at them. And it probably doesn't even look that great, but I tell you, it tastes fantastic. And it's, oh, it's just a marvelous thing. So he was very, very happy and was bragging to me down the phone that he'd received two of these.
[02:06:39] Unknown:
I was about to eat one for lunch, and I told him to clear off because I don't wanna be taunted about that. It's not right, is it? Yeah. Go away, I said to him. Go away. Me. Yeah. No. It's not. Actually found a a good cottage cheese down here. I mean, I haven't seen cottage cheese in South America in sixteen years, and I like cottage cheese. And one of our, expat gals found a a variety in the store that's it's real good. I I was quite shocked, actually. So, anyway, there's a female trying to get in right there when I stepped on you. Who was that?
[02:07:10] Unknown:
It it's Annette. I have a question. If any, anyone wants to, put put in some comment on it. There's this thing as, chattel paper. Does anyone wanna comment on chattel paper and the
[02:07:29] Unknown:
UCC? Oh oh, chattel as in as in, property. Right. Uh-huh.
[02:07:36] Unknown:
Is that Is that what you Does it apply is it just to be, like, loans and okay. You put up you put up some type of, collateral and now or is it other just to go out from there?
[02:07:53] Unknown:
I've never heard of it before, Annette. So I'm gonna step back and let's see if Brent can feel that.
[02:08:00] Unknown:
Well, first first is good. I I like to start with the words. What do the words mean? Like, we were talking a while ago. What's law? That's by the way, Blackstone goes into detail in his first volume right at the beginning, what law is. I don't know what he he goes into the etymology of the word heard so much, but he tries to boil it down to make it simple. But chattel, there are only two kinds of property in our common law tradition. Our common let me put it this way. Back up. Slow down, Brent. Our common law tradition only recognizes two kinds of property, chattels and land. That's all there is. And truly, that's all there is. There isn't anything else.
Some people say chattels, they say movable, movables, and land is unmovable. So movables and immovables. Also chattels are called personalty and land called realty. We have different ways of saying it, but, in the past, not too distant past, all we ever said was land and chattels. Chatt chattel paper and the chattel paper is a piece of paper that contains information about, monetary obligation. That's fundamentally what it is. A piece of paper that contains information about a monetary obligation. So most often, you could talk about, for example, a promissory note, something that's held by credit, a piece of paper that is evidence of a debt. What's what's a piece of paper that's evidence of debt? A con Sorry. My last name. Morning.
A, a dollar bill, a a note, which is a a a a federal reserve note is supposed to contain information about a debt. But it's it's not a debt. It doesn't have to do with land. The best way to describe it, not doesn't have to do with land. It has to do with movables, personal property, personalty, not realty. And so chattel papers, any piece of paper that has evidences of, chattel debt. Chattel debt, personal money, grain. If you're gonna pay for your debt with grain, if you're gonna pay your debt with gold or silver, it's debt. What is debt? Well, debt, is contract.
Show me a debt, and I'll show you a contract. And you show me a contract, and I'll show you a debt. And I wanna drop this footnote because it's a misunderstanding in my humble studied opinion in the patriot community that taxes are debts. They aren't. Well, if taxes are debts, that means there has to be a contract, and that's what patriots say. Well, there is no no contract. No. There isn't. Taxes aren't debts. Lawful taxes are obligations.
[02:10:44] Unknown:
On the contract out of law. There's a contract when you sign a ten forty form.
[02:10:50] Unknown:
Well, they made wanna make it look like that, and you're probably right. But I'm talking about lawful taxes. Yep. So I I did make that distinction because I said, yeah. I know what it's probably that's that argument. But taxes that are lawful are lawful obligations. Obligations or duties, that's just another word for duty, duties arise out of law, debts arise out of contract. Somebody was gonna say something. Brennan, I was gonna ask you. Could you think you could consider hold on. Let me put the do you think you consider
[02:11:19] Unknown:
chattels, fixtures in real estate law?
[02:11:24] Unknown:
No. Fixtures that are permanently attached to the land are Non fixtures. Not I mean, non fixtures.
[02:11:30] Unknown:
In real estate school, they taught us, that a non fixture was anything that could be undone with a screwdriver in fifteen minutes.
[02:11:42] Unknown:
I like that. I like that. Yeah. It's clever. That's fundamentally true. We had a thing at home. Yeah. That's a good way to say it. We had at home, we had, corn cribs. And where I was from, the corn cribs, cheapest way to make them was out of rails. And so split people split rails and made pretty big corn cribs. And, then the question comes, you'd usually have a foundation. You'd have you'd put down large stones out of the creek bed as a foundation for the corn crib, or you pour concrete. Some people poured concrete. The concrete, the foundation of the corn crib is part of the land. And if you buy a piece of land and the contract doesn't say one way or the other, well, you got you gotta leave the concrete.
But, stones that are laid there, well, if they came out of the creek bed, they're part of the land. That probably would be part of the land anyway. But the corn crib itself, you could take that apart if it was a metal corn crib with the screwdriver, like Roger says. Well, that you could take that out there with a screwdriver pretty easy. Let's say you got a chandelier in a building. The building is attached to the land. So it's, it's real estate. And And we do distinguish to make this other distinguished, distinguish in point between real estate.
[02:13:02] Unknown:
You're breaking up a little Brent. Try and get closer to a router if you can. State and land and real estate is land that has had some development
[02:13:11] Unknown:
on it, but that's a matter of degree. And there's no what's that? What's that, Roger? I just Somebody there. You're breaking up.
[02:13:19] Unknown:
You're breaking up a little bit. If you could try and get closer to a router wherever you are. Nah. I'll have to just live it out for now, but Okay. You've been real clear the whole show, but it's just flipping a little bit now. Oh.
[02:13:33] Unknown:
Let me let me ask additional one additional question I'll yield. Does a warrant, is that a cattle paper I yield? Because they can come in confidence with your property.
[02:13:47] Unknown:
Yeah. A warrant, well, a warrant is not about taking title to your property. As a matter of law, I know that there's a lot of illegal thought. I Roger made the point about signing a ten forty. But whatever's lawful taxes, that might be unlawful. But let's get back because you're swearing. You're being forced to swear an oath. How lawful is that? But coming back to a warrant, a warrant is to seize possession of evidence. It may be or somebody wanted for a crime, sees a person's body or sees evidence. And, it does. It's not, it's not a court saying that the government, whoever sees in it, gets titled to it.
So that wouldn't be chattel paper in my, that's my initial response as far as I can see. Now that has nothing to do with debt. Now if somebody comes in and and and has a writ of repleben, a sheriff bust down your door Yeah. To take your property because you do owe a debt. Well, now Rogers say, I think you're going to say, yeah, that could be chattel. Well, chomping at the BIP because that's one of the eight common law remedies. Replevin. Yeah. Yeah. A writ of replevin. Well, that, that could be termed the chattel paper. I, as I think about it. Yeah. Chattel paper. Chattel papers have that are having to do with, monetary obligations, which is transfer of title, not just possession.
In most cases, that's the simple answer. There are always exceptions and other things. And I'm not giving legal advice. I'm just trying to dredge out of my mind what I remember from reading Blackstone. Now if you read Blackstone if you read Blackstone, he'll talk about these things. It's all in there. And I would suggest that every every man and every woman that's a responsible American should have the fundamentals of of our common law tradition in their head. And if you don't, you're a problem. It's our responsibility to know so that we may respect the, the rights, the duties of others. That's what a right is. And also we would defend our own duties and know what they are. How can you do if you're given a duty from God and that's where duties come from, rights, we call them duties.
If you're given a duty or responsibility, then with that ability or jurisdiction to do your duty. And if you're not willing to do that, you're part of the problem. You're spitting in God's face. You're telling the giver of the duty that it didn't mount mount anything. You're disrespecting your own God, and God's gonna discipline you and slap you in line. Don't make it hard on yourselves. Know the law. The law but I mean, the laws of nature are common law tradition, and the laws of nature's God, the Bible. You need as all of us, we need to be constantly
[02:16:43] Unknown:
Boy, it's tough when Sprint's dropping out like that. Whatever you said, we just all missed it, Brent. It was a total blackout I ain't in the loop. A couple of seconds. Well, you can, but now you're garbled.
[02:16:59] Unknown:
A matter of going out. Say, I'm going to go to school and learn time and you never know it all, but you're so, oh, Yeah. Now picture in the laws of nature is God is our responsibility. How can we do what we don't know? Don't fall into the Anabaptist position thinking, well, once I'm born from above, I got the spirit of God, the law of God's written on my heart, and I I just, I just know. No, you don't. And the Bible doesn't say it that way, by the way. No, no. You gotta learn it. You gotta learn, keep and do Deuteronomy chapter four. You gotta learn it and then you gotta safeguard it. And if you learn it, you will say, guard it and you will do it. That's your duty.
And you respect the rights of others. We can have order. We can have decency. We can have prosperity. Like we never thought if there's a critical mass of Christian folk that are committed to doing that, don't expect other people to do it. Expect them to follow you. The remnant has a response. Oh, do you do to do that? And if you're the solution, let's struggle. The struggle it's an enjoyable struggle, by the way, to know what God wants you to do and do it. Greatest joy in the world. Roger, can you hear me okay now?
[02:18:12] Unknown:
I hear you. You're still breaking up a bit. Lady Linda was trying to get through and she was real garbled. Linda, you want to try again and if not, reconnect and see if that doesn't clear it up. Now you're very garbled. Reconnect.
[02:18:29] Unknown:
No. You gotta hang up and re and and call back, Linda.
[02:18:32] Unknown:
We don't hear that too often. It sounds like you're under about 10 feet of water.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's a good good analogy here.
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Someone Is Paul Ingrid still there?
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I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm still here.
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Yeah. Paul, were you there?
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Yeah. I'm here.
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Rick? I believe that was Rick. Go ahead.
[02:18:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead, Rick. I think Annette was trying to speak. Go ahead, Annette. What?
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So the body of, you know, someone was, in a position where they overheard someone, said the judge called them chattel. And so this is where my question comes in. And and by by the way, they were detained. They weren't in jail, but well, they were detained. Let's put it like that. So so would the person's body be be, would would, is there is there a scenario where chattel paper could be part of the court system and the body of the person be be the object of, you know
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I I yield. That sort of deal. I yield. Well, the chattel is property. So their judge is saying that guy's property is what I take away from what you said. Brent?
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Yeah. No. I for example, a lien filed at the courthouse is chattel paper because it's evidence, a claim it's a claim of ownership of rights, duties, property. Mhmm. And, but your your body, as a matter of law, that's not possible. Now I won't I don't, don't deny for a moment that the evil empire and the useful idiots thereof think that and want that and act like that. And they think that, yeah, I'm I'm nothing but chattel for them. But that's not true as a matter of law, and it's our duty. It's our duty as Christian men and women to say no. No. I don't care what you think. I don't care what you believe. I don't care what your convictions are. I stand on the laws of nature, and the laws of nature's God. And, no, I'm not your property. My body is not your property. Go back and read the book of Genesis. What did the Israelites say? Well, first, Joseph got in power, prime minister, as it were, of the most powerful nation on earth. And, he put a a 20% income tax on everybody. Well, four hundred years later, that had driven the income tax, 20% income tax on production of raw materials, namely grain, had driven them into total slavery. Of course, that's what income tax is. It's a driving towards slavery coupled coupled with, the bankers.
So the bankers Federal Reserve tax position and then the income tax, it all goes together, usury. But I don't I don't wanna get into that. I just wanna talk about the simplicity of it. So they had that. And then they ran out of money and they said, look, we don't have any more money. We're starving. We've had bad years. They said to Pharaoh, you we'll sell you our cattle and our horses and our draft animals. And, they, he said, okay, cause we don't have any money to eat. We're starving. So he did that. He bought all that with with the wealth that they had given him, of course, in taxes. And then they said, well, now we're out of out of money for food. We don't have any cattle or we don't have any any money. We don't have any silver. We don't have any cattle. We'll sell you our land. He said, okay, sell me your land. So now the government has all their land, all their draft animals, all their silver in reverse order. Well, then they ran out of that food and they said, we don't have anything else. All we've got left is our bodies and we'll sell our bodies to you. That beats starving.
He said, okay. So they, so they sold him. They sold the government, their bodies, that's called chattel slavery. Yep. And they were enslaved in that way. Clearly it all happened. It started with income tax, income tax at the beginning of slavery, according to the Bible, And that all plays out. Then the emancipator comes in and, Yahoa got himself and pulls them out of that. But, your body, as a matter of law here in America is not chattel. And the more that Patriots go along with that kind of talk and listen to it and repeat it, the worse it's going to get. No, we, we should say, no, no, no, no. You don't own me.
Oh, you may say you do. You may say that, you've, you've, you've put me up as collateral and all that. No, you didn't. We don't, we don't want to even admit that in any way because that fuels the evil empire and their damnable lies For what it's worth. Roger, back to you.
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Oh, gosh.
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I've
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I've I've got to go. I've got a lunch appointment, and I always hate it because we get Paul here and Brent here, and we got this wonderful You've got to stop eating lunch, Roger. It's ridiculous habit. You gotta get out of it. What a silly habit that is. My body just doesn't agree with that, unfortunately. But, it's just such a pleasure, Paul, to have you drop by always and and add add your personality and your perspective here for what we do, and we love you. And, all the audience here, you're just all so special. And, of course, Brent and Francine, they're equally special. I think Brent's a national treasure, that has not been exposed yet and needs to be. Yes.
So,
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you know, we keep Could I leave you with with a little sort of I'm gonna pick a little comment and a clip? Yeah. I want to bring something into the show. This is gonna take a few a couple of minutes. Right? Okay. Well, that's fine. It's kind of it's slightly on on track. I I played a clip in my show last night, and it's to do it was it's taken from I don't know if you get it over there. There's, a series of novels that were written here recently by a woman called Hilary Mantel. And, the first one is called Wolf Hall. I don't know if that rings any bells with anybody. But it's to do with, the court of Henry the eighth.
It's to do with the origination of the Reformation or the devastation to call it give it its more accurate term. Is fascinating. It's an extremely evolved and learned piece, and it's been turned into a TV series. And I think there have been two series so far. And and the main pivotal character is, certainly in Wolf Hall, I don't know how the other two novels go, is to do with the rise of Thomas Cromwell who became, yeah, he became the Henry's right hand man after, Wolsey was unable to get Henry's marriage annulled with the pope, and Henry was not too happy about this. Cromwell then steps in even though he defended Wolsey quite loyally and slowly morphs his way up the ladder of power. Anyway, I was watching the the third episode the other day. I've only watched half of that episode. I've not watched a great deal of it.
It's it's wonderful in a way because, obviously, it's set in that time, the fifteen hundreds. And, although yeah. And, the the of course, there are no cars. There are no trains. There are no airplanes. Nobody's playing any radios. There's nothing like that. It's just dialogue, you see, and a few people with loots, I guess, every now and again. And so the dialogue is the thing that holds it all together. Anyway, I wanted to just play your little scene. This is about two and a half minutes long, but I've gotta give you a bit of background to it. Anne Boleyn is in the picture now, and Henry's chasing her like mad.
And she was betrothed to a chap called Henry Percy, and, Percy has been running his mouth off. This is before Henry's been able to actually marry Anne Boleyn. This is during a a period of tremendous tension. And, he's been running his mouth off, saying that Anna's basically been free with her favors to undermine the whole thing, and this is not going down too well at all. And Cromwell, goes to confront him over this. And the reason I wanted to play it to you is that it gives you an in as well about the power of money. The it's very, when I heard this, it ends in a spectacular way. So let me it's two and a half minutes long. So let me just play this to you, and we'll see how it goes. Okay?
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Mhmm.
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Oh, you're wasting your time. I was pledged to end. She allowed me such freedom with herself as only a betrothed woman would allow. Cardinal bullied me out of saying anything last time. I'm not afraid to speak the truth now.
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Good. My lord, you said what you have to say. Now listen to me. You're a man whose money is almost spent. I'm a man who knows how you've spent it. You're a man who's borrowed all over Europe. I'm a man who knows your creditors. One word from me, and all your debts will be called in. What are they gonna do, bankers don't have armies? Neither will you without any money. Now, lord, you hold your earldom from the king. Your task is to secure the North to defend us against Scotland. If you cannot ensure these things, the king will take your land and your titles and give them to somebody who will do the job you cannot do. No. He won't. He respects all ancient titles. How can I explain this to you?
The world does not run from where you think it is, from border fortresses, even from Whitehall. The world is run from Antwerp, from Florence, from Lisbon, wherever the merchant ships set sail off into the West, not from castle walls, from counting houses, from the pens that scrape out your promissory notes. So believe me when I say that my banker friends and I will rip your life apart. And then when you are without money and title yes. I can picture you. Living in a hovel, wearing homespun, bringing home a rabbit for the pot, your lawful wife and boleyn skinning and jointing that rabbit.
Yes. I wish you all happiness. You were never precontracted. Any understanding you think you have, you didn't have it. And if you think lady Anne loves you, well, you couldn't be more mistaken. But I've just come from her. She hates you. She despises you. She wants you gone. So if you say one more word about Lady Anne's freedom with you, I will come and drag you out of whatever hole you're cowering in, and the Duke of Norfolk will bite your bollocks off. I do hope that's clear, my lord.
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Quite clear. I just thought I just thought it was a good clip, and I just wanted to share it in terms of drama. Here's some drama for you. It just shows you the attitude that you're up against when push comes to shove. And they love it. You know, we will rip your life apart, and that's to be borne in mind. That's what these characters are like. It's a fascinating absolutely amazing
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production. Really is. Yeah. And they love it. Did you see I was gonna ask you, Brent. Did you happen to see, DJT's, Talk to Congress the other night, Monday night, I think?
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Much of it. Yes. Much of it. Yes. But I wanna ask before Paul
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Okay. Go ahead.
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Does bollocks mean what I think it means?
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A man's testicles.
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Yeah. Okay. I get it. Yeah. I I get it. Well, no. I I like that word. I did see the, the, the presentation. I got the gist of it. I didn't watch every bit of it, but what were you gonna say, Roger?
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Oh, I was just gonna say, did you see how ridiculous the Democrats look? Oh, it did. It's just unbelievable that he's backed them into a corner where they're having to defend all these things like child prostitution and illegal immigration. They gotta stand up and defend those things. And they've been released big time. By the way, the who's the Manning? Is that the congressman from Kentucky House that's so has voted everything against Israel?
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Yeah. What do you do? Well well, he's got
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the the old guy, Mitch McConnell, has announced his retirement. He's gonna run for senate, Probably. Oh,
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I see.
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So the of course, they're already talking about the midterms and well, the Well, I hope so. A Democratic party may be done. And thank you, Paul, for playing that clip. Yep.
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Yep. Yeah. It's just it's and then I I I've got to get familiar with the rest of it. She's dead, unfortunately. She died a few years ago. And, I think it's pretty, the script is pretty anti Cromwell and anti the arrival of the Church of England splitting from Rome. And there's probably good grounds for that. This is not a very pleasant episode in English history, and I think that there's all sorts of concoctions and other forces at play. I think the hand of Venice is in all of this. And, even, there's evidence to suggest, that some of the characters are of the Edomite persuasion. Not Cromwell. I don't think Cromwell was. Although, he was the son of a blacksmith, and blacksmith, being a blacksmith is a, one of the manual professions that they did. It's quite interesting. And Wolsey, there's also a lot of evidence suggest that maybe cardinal Wolsey was of that same way. There's some tremendous reports from, I might have mentioned them here before, Venetian ambassadors to England at the time. You can do a search for them, and you'll they probably should still come up. I don't think they're sort of thing that would be banned. They they kept copious notes. There's an amazing one from a Venetian ambassador witnessing Henry when he's about 22, and there's a description of his character, his personality, what his day is like. He spent most of his day on the back of a horse hunting all day long, but took mass three times a day.
And this is one of these great ironies of this period. When, when the attack came upon the Catholic church, from Martin Luther, Henry drafted a note, a big essay as it were, in defense of the faith, and it went to the pope. The pope was so impressed with this that he gave Henry a title, obviously, a Catholic title, which was, defender of the realm. Anyway, after they'd split from Rome, they decided to still hang on to that title or that description, which is slightly amusing in a way. So it's a it's a really hellish period in English history. And I I've often felt that from that period to now is like this modern era of complete madness, and all of the forces are at play. And it, you know, Catholics have, of course, are still very, very cross about England leaving it, and Catholics did not fare well over here. It was an insane situation because people that had been friends three weeks prior, were now killing one another in the streets, and so there was bloodletting on a colossal scale. All of this is gonna come out.
You can see all the forces at play and how it was manipulated, but it's pivotal, really, because it weakened us again. And then a little bit later, of course, in the mid sixteen hundreds, we get Cromwell coming along. And, thirty years after that, we've got the Bank of England, so called. And you've got this kind of modern era of mercantile, rapacious, parasitical capitalism, you know, on steroids. And, it much of it springs from here, obviously, because of this great It's it's still spring is coming from there, baby.
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It is. You guys are gonna It it Chain your boys and don't let them send them to the Ukraine there, Paul.
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Oh, no one's going. No one's going. The the guy that's in charge is just viewed as a complete fart, which he is. I mean, it's just it's a universal everybody's saying he's the worst prime minister ever, and and they're saying how amazing that is because we've got a lot of candidates to fall into that category. They said, can you actually believe that this guy is the worst one ever? And everyone's going, yeah. He just is. I mean, you get comments, I'm 85 years old. I've lived through everything. This guy is just needs to go. What do we do with him? You know? And the thing is there's no voices of opposition. This is the this is what tells you that the fix is in. They they throw you in jail. If you push me, they throw you in jail. Yeah. You're not allowed to speak. Therefore, it's a psyop. We're being conditioned to accept all this stuff. Yeah. Of course, people are not accepting the conditioning.
And so slowly but surely, they're trying to tighten everything up. But, I mean, the whole of the Ukraine thing as everybody here knows is a complete farce. I still think, you know, that speech from Jeffrey Sachs the other week, if you've seen it, that twenty seven minute speech, in Europe just is the best shot primer. It's all anybody needs to listen to. Listen to that. Yeah. You'll know exactly what's causing it all, and you'll know why Europe is completely in the wrong and mad. Completely mad.
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Jeffrey Sachs is fabulous.
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K? Yeah. He is. Now you wanna talk about a good Jew. Presentation. Jeffrey Sachs is one hell of a good Jew. I wrote that to someone the other day. I said, there's one who's sticking his neck out. And so, I hope he comes out of it okay because, you know and then there's a part of me that thinks, okay. Is this a double double triple double bluff? You know, you never can tell with all of these things. It's very difficult from our point of view. But the content of his speech, it makes it simple. You understand exactly what's going on. And, of course, it's it's a devastating speech because it highlights the sheer asinine stupidity of all of the so called leaders of Europe. These people are not even imbeciles. They're something we're gonna have to create some new words. They're a menace. They're traitors.
And, also, they're not the people making the decisions. Of course not. They're There's something else doing it, and you can feel it. And everybody's been going, these guys are not really in charge. You know, I've been telling you that for years. They're not. It's that it's that force that Cromwell, Thomas Cromwell was talking about. That's the force that's in charge. That one. The one where the ships leave the merchant ports. That's it. It is. Absolutely. Right. You know, and I was I mentioned, didn't I, last time I was on briefly this thing about the Crusades, and I've been reading about that. And and, again, the logistics of it. When you look at the logistics of sending a knight there or whatever with any of these military conflicts throughout history, the real thing I've realized to look at is how you put the army in the field. Who paid for all that stuff?
This is the key thing. Everybody goes, oh, the blokes are really brave. Go, yeah, they were. Absolutely. But they would have got nowhere without swords, cavalry, you know, man servants, food supplies. Who organized all that? Without that, there ain't no battle. They're in one. And so, you know, this is left behind in in all movies. Everybody's, yeah. Let's get on with the fighting. Okay. Great. You're and, yeah, because we're glad we weren't there. And when you read descriptions of it, you're really glad that you weren't there because it's just hell on earth, really. But but, it's key. The logistics, the financiers, how they put it together. And the same thing goes with World War two. You know, you look at Russia and its tank factories. You go, it's got nothing to do with all this crap about people being brave. They just had gazillions of tanks.
And, all of these things and it's who organizes that stuff. And we never get to that bit, do we, or very rarely in the narratives that we hear. They don't go to that. You gotta drill down two or three levels, and you go, ah, now I see it. Now I get what's going on. That we're the truth seekers. See, the other people sit on the sideline. They don't care. They wanna call you you crazy. They just go along with the flow. We're the ones that are cutting edge truth seeking here. That's what I wanted about Jeff. Jeff's audience
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has got to be almost chock full of truth seekers because he's always on the cutting edge of everything. It's just like I I complimented him last night on Barry Chamish, on Adrian Salbucci, and people that I've had direct contact with that were just fantastic. You know? I mean, I don't think the world knew about Sabotage v before he had Barry Chalmers on there twenty something years ago.
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No. Probably not. Probably not. No.
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No. Anyway, well, listen. I got to go, Paul. Love you. Thanks for jumping by. Do it anytime you want. The carpet's always out for you. Brent Yeah. Francine, thank you so much. As always, another great can show in the can, and, we'll look forward to doing it again next week. And you guys have a great weekend, and, thank you so much for being with us. I hope you got something out of it. So, Enjoy your fish and chips and Yorkshire pudding, don't you? I we I wish I could have some fish and chips. Yes, sir, Brent.
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I just said thank you both. You both Pauls and appreciate
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Yeah. Appreciate all your comments, and I've gotta go look some things up and follow-up with what was said. There you go. Well, you guys, be good, and I'll see you soon. And thanks as always. Love all of you. Bye bye.
[02:40:21] Unknown:
Hello, Paul. Paul English. Hello?
[02:40:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm still here coughing. Sorry. I was just on mute. Hi.
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They that's, good audio audio clip you played about ten minutes ago. Who was that speaking and who was he speaking to?
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The the guy doing all the threatening, the quiet threatening talk was Thomas Cromwell. And the guy he was speaking to was Henry Percy who had been betrothed to Anne Boleyn and was about to not be betrothed to her because she was about to be swept off by Henry the eighth. And, he was putting him on warning to keep his mouth shut as people were getting very unhappy with him. Yep. I mean, that's early on in this that's two and a half hours into the first series, which is about six hours long, so there's quite a bit to go. And then there's a second series of another six hours. I'm not rushing through it because it's actually it's quite gripping, actually, for me. I quite like it. So that's how it was. Yeah. Thank you.
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Yeah. I was trying to find a creative source for it, and I haven't been able to locate one. Might actually have to bite the bullet and buy it from Amazon.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
If I could get a hold of copies, I'll send them to you. I cut down hi.
[02:41:49] Unknown:
Hi. This is Jerry Garcia in Carlsbad, New Mexico.
[02:41:53] Unknown:
Hi, Jerry Garcia.
[02:41:57] Unknown:
Land, air and water. And this is also a question for Brent. On in Genesis one twenty six where it talks about, where god created the man, and then he gave him dominion over the fish that are in the water, the birds that are in the air, and the cattle that are on the land. And then way over there in Psalms eight, four through nine, he flips it around to that he gave man who is man, that he thinks so much about him, that he gave him dominion and made him just a little lower than the angels, and then he gave him dominion over the animals that are on the land, the birds that are in the air, and the fish that are in the water.
So in Genesis, he spells it w a l, and in the Psalm, he spells it l a w. I'm just commenting on it.
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Yeah. Well, I just had that as a passing comment on Wednesday, and I've got to follow it up. So I don't have anything sort of intelligent or can't provide you with any references to it or some kind of lineage as to why that sentence would be floating around. I found it quite intriguing. I mean, there are a lot of things like that with acronyms and stuff in the English language. You know?
[02:43:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I when I heard it, I thought it was, like, at that's absolutely brilliant. And I've been looking for a source for it to verify it, and I haven't been able to find one.
[02:43:38] Unknown:
So Yeah. Well, I think I think I'm in LORE. L o r e. There's a the LORE is good. The two are inextricably linked, it seems. I've come across this sort of little law blog, I mean, if I can just bring it up here, that was talking about this. Of course, I can't find it now. You know what it's like. Oh, yeah. Here is, this is just a blog. I was just doing some search on it yesterday. A guy talking about I don't know whether it's a US Lawyer or not. It doesn't really matter. Was just talking about this definition of law, l o r e, and, how the two are, sort of linked. And I'm just trying to find the definition of it. It's here. It says he says, and so my view is that to understand law, l a w, in practice, one has to have an understanding of law, l o r e, which I see is helpfully defined online as here's the definition of l o r e law. A body of traditions and knowledge on a subject or held by a particular group typically passed from person to person by word-of-mouth.
And that's the way I I've viewed common law, l o r e l a w. It gets a bit confusing, doesn't it? A lot. Which is the pragmatic, yeah, the pragmatic application, by people in real really living it, and this is how it works out. And that trial by jury came out of this, of trial by your peers, like we were talking about yesterday. You know, if you're a car mechanic accused of something, the peers that are on the jury will all be car mechanics. They have to know this field to be able to assess whether you're actually guilty or not guilty of what you're being accused of. So it's Right. The details, you know, they all yield up bounty once you understand what they're supposed to be about. But it's a conversation, Paul. I'm gonna carry on with this chap when I get back in touch with him because, he said a lot of things about that. And the thing, of course, that I mentioned about Shakespeare and this arrival of a lot of words into, into the lexicon of of English words is also extremely intriguing and interesting. So, a lot going on in that period of history. Bye, gum. A lot.
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Well, as as far as What's what's the diff
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As far as the, oh god. Now now I lost where I was gonna go with that. Oh, as far as the, the trial by jury, yeah, that's jury as it appears. But jury trial, that is simply people of the same political or, socioeconomic status as it were. Mostly political status, I e, all citizens of The United States, all subjects of the crown, from wherever they come from and and, whatever their status is, whatever. So they've oversimplified it. So, yeah, it would make sense that, you know, if a car mechanic is being sued or whatever, there should be a jury of car mechanics. They would understand not only the nuts and bolts of what the guy is doing, no pun intended, but they would also understand, you know, what they would also understand the the just the concept of the arrangement that the the customer had with the mechanic.
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Yeah. Yeah. You're and you're right about the watering down of it. I think one of the documents I was reading was saying that, you know, they've been watering it down for eight hundred years since 12/15. Eight hundred and '10 years now. It's all been a watering down process. And in doing so, they've managed to make people forget, or certainly, what is not being applied is that the jury can annul the law if it thinks the law is not a law anymore, even if it ever was. Why is this law? This is not a law. No. That law's irrelevant. It's we're annulling it, and therefore, there's nothing this this guy's got nothing to answer for because he he hasn't broken any law because we're telling you that this rule that some idiot made up in the bureaucratic holes of here, there, or everywhere is nonsense. And this means that the so called lawmakers, these people that have been providing all these things for the improvement of our lives, they would come under scrutiny.
You and we find out that you, Bob Smith, have been passing loads of crap for the last thirty five years. None of it is law. And you're a serial provider of false of things that you say are law which are not. So I don't you know, obviously, there'd be a whole series of processes if you could get it going, but it's an amazingly powerful. It's the most powerful institution we would have, and it needs to be for us here. We need it in place right now because I would suggest that the guy masquerading as our prime minister is not a prime minister at all. I don't know what charges you'd have him on, but he needs to be tried. They all do. It's just you know, I'm talking asinine here. I know we're not gonna do that tomorrow morning or anything. But getting the getting the thinking behind it is is very encouraging because we've obviously had conventions here and structures that did do just that, and therefore, we were in a much healthier place, making it easier for everyone to understand what's going on.
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You know, there are still states in this country. There's probably not very many of them, but there are still states in this country that still have a law on the books that in order to operate an automobile after sundown, that a, a lamp lighter or somebody holding a lamp had to be walking in front of you lighting your path. That's still on the books. That was from when that was from before cars had lights. But it's still there. Yes. And if they really wanted to hang you with it, they can no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
[02:49:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Although if it was trial by jury, the jury would probably annul that law and say this is obviously ridiculous.
[02:49:44] Unknown:
But a jury trial been forgotten. Their their instructions from the judge would preclude them from doing that. You know, you judge your case by the facts, and I will give you the law. They were operating without somebody lighting their way,
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so they're guilty. And even even even that word judge, you see, is a false word because they weren't called judges. They were called conveners. So the the there was an individual responsible for convening the trial, and that's what they were, conveners, not judges. And that even the use of that word judge is ascribed over to them the powers of judgment, which they're not there to exercise. That's the jury that's gonna do that. So he's like the ref the convener is the like the referee in a football match. He's basically there to make sure that the rules are kept and to be asked by the jury when the jury is, aware that it's unknowledgeable about some aspect. They ask him. They say, what is the law on this? And he that's his job to provide it. But they're the ones who are gonna decide it, not him. But, of course, this is part of this chiseling away at it. Now we end up with these all powerful judges, but there's no such thing. There's no actual remit for that within the actual original structure.
It's the people of the land are going to naturally express natural law based on the conventions of the day, and that's how it works. That's how why it's common law because it's common to all people or as near as damn it, I guess. That's the idea behind it.
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I was wondering if Rick wanna come back and say what he was gonna say. I think it was Rick. I don't know what
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yeah. I don't know what he was gonna say. That's right anymore.
[02:51:28] Unknown:
No. Well, it's ten to seven here. Not that that means that. Yeah. I just thought I'd let you know for those of you sticklers about time zones. I've got to go and and do my thing. So I don't have lunch, but I've got supper to arrange quickly. It's just about done. So I've gotta go and do that. And, again, always fun, being here on a Friday. So so much for thank you so much for showing up and hanging out. You know? Oh, I always think I get so much more out of it. Listening to Brent and that hour before I came on and everything, that was just fantastic stuff. It was brilliant. So it's always great when you hear things you've not heard before, and you just go, woah. Yeah. You sort of you know, you're coloring in the pictures the picture more fully. There's more detail going into all the time. I find that really satisfying and thrilling, actually. So it's it's great stuff.
Groovy. Anyway, I'm gonna go off and blow my nose. As you can tell, I probably need to do that.
[02:52:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sorry. I had to step away before the end of the show yesterday, so I was delayed in taking the stream down. But, I grabbed the, the stream from Global Voice Network, and I edited off the the post show post show conversation
[02:52:35] Unknown:
and then reupload it. All the swearing and shouting. There's a post the the the post show discussion. The post show the after The post show drunken verbal abuse. Yeah. The post show drunken verbal abuse. I'm glad you took that off. That's
[02:52:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's good. I took that off and and reuploaded it. So
[02:52:57] Unknown:
Hey. As well, just on a personal thing, Paul, now that Skype is going the way of the dodo, not that I connect with you through that, but May, it goes into the ether. Does Skype, which is rip is a ridiculous turn of events. But how do I get in touch with you? Still through that?
[02:53:15] Unknown:
They're replacing it with Teams. And, I know.
[02:53:19] Unknown:
Teams. I Yeah. Is an original word for you. Yeah. Teams. Yeah. Right. Right.
[02:53:25] Unknown:
Well, what I can do is you know, I had Telegram running. I was I was doing an experiment. I had Telegram running from the show yesterday because I used Telegram to send that data to you, but I just left it open. And I'm telling you, when I woke up this morning, my computer was absolutely crawling. It was absolutely so out of out of memory, and I had just rebooted it two days before that.
[02:53:57] Unknown:
So It's time you got rid of that it's time you got rid of that Hewlett Packard machine from 1996, Paul. Come on. Get rid of it. It's not a it's it's not a you would pack it. And I'm teasing.
[02:54:09] Unknown:
I'm teasing. 1996.
[02:54:11] Unknown:
It's an IBM Lenovo from 02/2006.
[02:54:17] Unknown:
Well, whatever. I, you know, I used to work in telephone marketing in the eighties. And, I worked in telemarketing in the eighties, and it was during the, you know, the arrival of the PC and the Mac, we were business to business organization. And, sometimes the telephone lines were not that clear. And, someone had been speaking to someone at Hewlett Packard, but had mis completely and had written down on the call sheet. I've just been speaking to someone from Tulip placard, which went down in sort of business. Look. We quite liked that. So it it was funny at the time. It's not even funny now. It's just an observation. But there you go. Tulip placard, and, that's all part of it. So I'm gonna go anyway. I'm gonna go and blow my nose. I'll be in touch, Paul, and I'll see you next week at some point, and thanks for today. Brilliant.
Cool. Bye, everyone. I'll, see you soon. Thanks. Bye for now. Bye bye.
[02:55:10] Unknown:
Alright. Bye. Bye, Paul. Bye, Paul.
[02:55:15] Unknown:
Question for you.
[02:55:17] Unknown:
I, Yeah. Me?
[02:55:19] Unknown:
Just Just reading this, I've been talking a little bit about the forensic matter into this foreclosure and mortgage dismissals. And there's another piece of information as I gathered. There was a handwritten note that they Boris and Jimbo sent into the court. Notice of acceptance and request. Time is of the essence. There has been a mistake. Where is the proper notice so I may handle this manner in honor? For your information and understanding the reason for this notice is reciprocation and indemnification within Article 38 of the Liber Code in conjunction with Article 31 of the Liber Code in order for Article two of the Liber Code to be fulfilled.
It appears that I'm a joint recipient of certificate of live birth number and eighties a number. In absence of evidence to the contrary, would the attached copy of certificate of live birth be evidence of the obligation slash guarantee of performance by United States and the state of Michigan. In the absence of evidence to the contrary and with the screening, it appears I am joint recipient to and co user of Social Security number. This is a security number and the name registered on the street. Live birth gives a live birth number. I now notice you have my acceptance of the agreement and request the court to instruct the plaintiff to provide and deliver all tools necessary to use account limits on your credit card number account honorably in commerce and then in care of your mail mailing address.
The account was withdrawn $20,000. It was discharged. You need to be a local heard from again.
[02:56:57] Unknown:
Okay. And where did you get that from? And can you send it to me?
[02:57:04] Unknown:
Yes. It's, part six, the end of the part six video. There's eight parts of the video. It's law of Boris. I actually am in front of a computer, so I could, I could email it to you if you'd like.
[02:57:18] Unknown:
Please. Yeah. Do it.
[02:57:25] Unknown:
It's on a rumble channel. And
[02:57:28] Unknown:
yeah. So Okay. What's the channel, but that Wait a minute. I'm actually on rumble right now. What is the, what's the name of the rumble channel?
[02:57:41] Unknown:
Law of Boris.
[02:57:44] Unknown:
Law of Boris. Yep. And There is a stamp on Mhmm.
[02:57:50] Unknown:
This is a presentation to there is a court stamp on it. This is from 02/2011 that they filed. And so I don't know, in terms of the context, what's funny is then they got the mortgage discharged in 2012 as well. So I don't know if that notice into that court, because I think there was a previous UCC filing, if that triggers something else. But the fact that they mentioned the Libra code, I thought was really interesting because of what we were just talking about being under military rule.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
Right. Okay. Now there's three law of Boris. There's law space of space Boris. There's law space of space Boris space video something, and then there's law of Boris, all one word.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
Well, that's good to know. Which one is it? There's more Boris out there.
[02:58:41] Unknown:
Yeah. There's lots of Boris out there.
[02:58:44] Unknown:
With law of Boris with a space in between the words.
[02:58:49] Unknown:
Okay. So there's 800 and, 90 followers. Correct. Law of Boris part six of eight, five of eight, three of eight Mhmm. Eight of eight, one of eight. Is that the ones you're talking
[02:59:04] Unknown:
about? Yes. Yep. It's good to look at the whole series, but, for what I was just referencing back to the eight of eight of eight of eight, six, because then they forensically go through the, the rest of what happened in that case. However, he he ties a lot to, like, the declaration of independence and a lot of other background info. That's why I'd recommend the whole series.
[02:59:29] Unknown:
Two, three. You can use for download.
[02:59:40] Unknown:
Or Oh, you can download them?
[02:59:43] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you have a tool for that? Or just yeah. Four k video downloader. Four k v d e link address. That's part five. Part six. Supposed to be able to download an entire channel, but it doesn't doesn't work on rumble. Rumble, it just gives you video, video, m p four and video number one, two, three, four, and all that. But it it doesn't actually grab the, the titles. It does for YouTube. It grabs the titles. You can grab an entire playlist or an entire channel, and that's loads of fun. I've got, like, 1,147 files from one YouTube channel. It's, on, let's see.
Okay. It's 1,395 items, and that's the EON channel. I postponed that. But Simplify Gardening has 488 items in no till growers has 651 items that are queued but paused, and, Martin Johnson's off grid living, 1,166 items queued for download but postponed because I'm grabbing other stuff. But I'll, I'll turn those channels on and then grab those videos in due course. And it just builds a subfolder on my drive, and it puts all the videos in that folder and also grabs the subtitle files too. So if you, if you watch them with a, with a video player that supports subtitles, just point it at the subtitle file and you'll have the text at the bottom of the screen just like I need to.
Closed captioning.
[03:01:46] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[03:01:49] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It's four k v d. Four k video downloader is what it stands for. And four k v d plus supports, all tons of different platforms. It supports, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, some x videos, some Twitters. Okay. I've got all eight of those files queued for download.
[03:02:28] Unknown:
That's quite interesting to, hear all the different methods, you know, of dealing with this and the fact that the channel came up too. I thought I was interested because if they're creating, you know, if we're kind of a recipient of the certificate of librarians, we have no idea what's going on. We're just a minor, right, at the time. And if they're using the using the law, whatever law it is, commercial, whatever, we should have a remedy to make things right. And that sounds like what was happening in these cases at Yale.
[03:02:59] Unknown:
K. I was wondering if we wanted oh, go ahead. I'm sorry, Paul. Hang on. Hang on one second. On the law of Boris, were you reading that, like, from the description on the video? What were you reading? No. I was actually
[03:03:17] Unknown:
forensically going into his presentation looking what I don't have the slides, so I was actually getting it off his video presentation of his slides. And, you know, that was the letter that was stamped that went to the court. And then I think seven in video seven, they show more of the documentation. I sent the PDF, the 12 page PDF of the actual mortgage case to Sherry and Julie as well. And that's the one where they had filed the UCC naming the hospital, the birth hospital as a debtor as well as the all caps name as a debtor. And, they forensically went in and saw where the Secretary of State became the hospital's, registered agent in Florida because the Detroit Hospital in Michigan had no had no, you know, business in Florida other than the sounds like The United States and Washington DC business.
[03:04:15] Unknown:
Right. But they would still have they would still have the the ability to do business in Florida because both Michigan and Florida are political subdivisions of DC. So they would have reciprocal, jurisdiction and reciprocal authority. I would I believe. Exact
[03:04:38] Unknown:
yes. Exactly. And that's why the, I think, the attorney general's office, of Florida then forget who was in the papers, but they actually you can watch the presentation, but they actually went went ahead and said, oh, we lost the summons to do the to do the foreclosure actions. So the foreclosure action was was quieted. And then sometime later after this other document that I just read, that handwritten document, so this all started like in 02/2009, I believe, with the foreclosure action. 2011, they wrote this letter. 2012, the whole mortgage went away then.
Sounds like a really interesting series of and it was all, you know, I'm surprised the whole case isn't, what do they call that when they quash it, you know.
[03:05:30] Unknown:
Under seal?
[03:05:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Under seal. But, they kinda went back and said, well, this happened here and this happened here. Maybe they can't put under seal because it's a public, you know, public business based on the all caps name.
[03:05:45] Unknown:
Well, I don't know why I think they could probably put anything they want to under seal it. They don't care. Even if they're not supposed to be able to do it, they're still gonna do it.
[03:05:58] Unknown:
So I don't know. Maybe it's the white hats. Maybe it's the white hats making sure we can look that up, and we know where to look for it. Thank you. Okay. Okay.
[03:06:11] Unknown:
I just wanted to mention that, in the in the book of the hundreds, they have a lot of references in there, how Lincoln transformed our common law into Roman law, and our land and how we mortgage it and how we transfer it and our actual ownership of it, how this is actually Roman law, nothing to do with common law. Just want to point that out Mhmm. For those who are interested in reading up on it there.
[03:06:44] Unknown:
Mhmm. Cool. Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry about that, Annette. Go ahead. Are you are you still trying to see if lady Linda is still on?
[03:06:58] Unknown:
Yeah. If Linda or Rick wants to come and bring up what they were gonna bring up, I would be interested. Well, that was flooring in my words. I would be interested.
[03:07:21] Unknown:
Well Like, either way
[03:07:23] Unknown:
on here. So you'll be waiting a long time.
[03:07:28] Unknown:
Thank you for letting me know. I appreciate it.
[03:07:33] Unknown:
So I'm thinking it's time to put this guy to bed. Well, not this guy, but the the show today. What an amazing show following, yet another amazing show on the Jeff Rentz program last night. I listened to it. I streamed it. I shared it with the runes. It it was very interesting. Definitely, kept me awake for sure. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Rogers Sales. You can catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. The Sabadeau edition is tomorrow at 11AM on eurofoopradio.com, radio Global voice radio Net, and, plethora of other platforms. Hopefully, WDRN productions will be with us yet again tomorrow.
Thank you so much for joining us. I'm out here. Have a great day. This is the day that the Lord has made, and, we're gonna bring it back to put him in the forefront. What do you think?
[03:08:40] Unknown:
I know. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:08:47] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Technical Issues
Discussion on Admiralty Law and Legal Education
Politics as Warfare and the Role of Education
The Nature of War and Politics
The Role of Religion and Law in Society
Common Law and Its Historical Context
Blackstone's Commentaries and Legal Education
Cultural and Historical Influences on Law
Discussion on Law, Education, and Society
Listener Questions and Legal Concepts
Historical Context of English Law
Closing Remarks and Future Discussions
