In this episode , host Roger Sales is joined by Brent Winters and other guests for a lively discussion on various topics, including the intricacies of trust law, the role of conspiracy in legal proceedings, and the historical context of economic systems. The conversation delves into the differences between common law and statutory trusts, the implications of being a trustee, and the potential pitfalls of conspiracy charges. The hosts also explore the historical impact of figures like Adam Smith and the economic philosophies that have shaped modern capitalism. Additionally, the episode touches on the complexities of the SESQUI KB Trust and its potential use in paying bills, as well as the broader implications of financial systems on personal and national levels. The episode is rich with historical anecdotes, legal insights, and discussions on the intersection of law, economics, and personal freedom.
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Yep. Yep. Yep. It's changing. It's changing without us, but we're gonna be right there behind it and keep pushing because, we got the big answers here at the Radio Ranch. Roger Sales, your host, and, of course, it's Friday, which means mister Brent Winters is going to show up, I believe. And I see the the talented, lovely, and charming Francine has already shown up. So we're here on the February, and I think I said it's, Roger Sales, Radio Ranch, all that stuff. We're on a number of different platforms. Paul Beener is the one that oversees that, hooks him up, keeps him going, strokes him when he needs to, and, he gives them proper credit that they have coming for helping us extend our reach. Don't you, mister Paul?
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I do I do try. I do try to give them the credit that they're due. We're on, Radio Soapbox this morning. RadioSoapbox.com, the Paul English live show. Yesterday was great. What I was able to hear of it, I pretty much spent all day outside behind a shovel. Right. Anyway, we're also on one zero six point nine WVOU FM in Chicago, brought to us by WDRN productions who also brings ushomenetwork.tv, freedom nation. Tv, go live TV, and stream life.tube. That's, part of the net family of broadcast services. Our flagship station, of course, where it all began, it's the beginning, at eurofolkradio.com brought to us through pastor Eli James, and we thank him very much.
Also, Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice Radio are on the matrix docs as well as at the matrixdocs.com, as well as the links for free conference calls. So you can actually join us live on the show. We've got room for about a thousand of you. Yeah. Come on down. Well, if you're new, you know, it's the Friday edition, and mister Winters and I have been doing these shows for
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probably a lot longer. Neither one of us would like to remember, but it's been over ten years for sure. And, I hadn't missed very many over that whole period of time, and that's because Brent and I enjoy them so much usually. Have very interesting things to both of us that come out of these conversations. Paul, I guess the the question I'm gonna ask you, I think the answer may be no news is good news, I hope. Have we had had an update on Eli?
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Paul gave a brief update, yesterday, on the show, and he said that he is recovering, nicely.
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Okay. I'll I have to drop him a little message. That's good news. Like I said, no news is good news. Mister Winter show up yet, or is he still hunting a Wi Fi spot? He's probably still hunting a Wi Fi spot. Okay. Well, I did shoot you know, I I was telling you I had a little bit of confusion this morning on my end, computer stuff. And just one thing or another. I'm not gonna go in a long story, but my morning's been frustrated. I got back about twenty after ten and, shot him a message, and I haven't he usually responds, and I haven't heard back from him. So I'll I'll, suffice and say good morning to Francine, his producer. She's here.
Where's the where's the main object, Francine?
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Good morning, mister mister Sales. I also shot him an a message, Skyped him, and no response. Said he wasn't, there. So I'm not sure. Alright. Well, that's then we know that we don't know. Okay? That's right. We know what you're doing. Well, Francine, play us a song.
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Well, I got plenty of them. Don't know. I know you do. And you got some good ones too, by the way. Yep. Yep. Okay. Well, we can plow off on, see if Brent joins us here. Unusual, but not unusual. You know, Brent I think Brent Francine Brent kinda reminds me of the absent minded professor. You know? Yes.
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I I understand perfectly.
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And and I I had an uncle. My father's side of the family is quite scholastic, you know, university presidents and, tenured professors and all that stuff. And, one of my grandfather's brothers, there was five of them, was a biology, teacher at the University of Chicago, tenured. And he would, summer down in South Florida and, you know, interact with some of the universities and stuff down there. And so, one day, he was kinda hand packed. Alright? So one day, he he's sitting there reading the paper, and his wife comes in. And she goes, I thought you had a meeting today.
And he put the paper where he looks over and he goes, well, everyone else went yesterday. So that kinda reminds me of Brent. You know? Oh, he's here. He's here, Roger. Oh, he showed. Oh, okay. We've been beating you up, man, but, glad you made it. We are out hunting a Wi Fi spot where you're Brent.
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Yeah. I'm on the road. I'm on the road, Roger. And so Well, you're always on the road, dude. Yeah. Like Willie Nelson, but I on the road again, you know, all that. But, I didn't hear what you said, and so I'm I'm, of course, dying to hear what it is. And Well As you get older, you get so you don't care what people say about you, but I'll bet it wasn't that bad. No. It wasn't. It was it was kind of a compliment in in a really positive sense. You know, the the picture of the absent minded professor. Right?
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Well, that's what you kinda remind me of sometimes, and I'm talking because you're not here. We're talking behind your back, of course, here on the radio for all to hear. And I said, Francine, he's kinda like the absent minded professor. And she said, yeah. I know what you mean. And so I was recalling a story that I heard when I was younger. My grandfather was one of five brothers, and they, the the sales family is very accomplished, you know. A lot of university presidents and tenured professors and a lot of that. And this one of his brothers was a, biology professor tenured at the University of Chicago. And in the summers, he'd spend down in Saint Petersburg Camp area and be interacting with some of the universities down there. So one day, his wife comes in, and he's sitting there reading the paper, and she says, I thought you were supposed to be in a meeting.
He lowered the paper and said, well, everybody else went yesterday.
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Yeah. No. That happens. And I that used to be a popular, well known saying, absent minded professor when I was growing up. I don't hear it much anymore, but I understand it now, and I'm people used to make fun of people like that and where I'm from. And they talked about a professor there at Indiana State or University of Indiana that when they came out with the you know, it used to be the the turn signals. No. The dimmer switch was on the on the floor. You remember that on the floor? Yes. I y'all were on the left. Yep. Yeah. On the left side. Little tiny button you just take your foot off the clutch or brake or what the clutch. And then, well, they moved them up, as you know, to the little little, lever on the on the steering column. Right. And then they'd make fun of the professor that had a terrible accident and got killed because he got his feet tangled up in the steering wheel. Pedals.
Oh, got like if that's the dimmer button.
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There you go. Well, that's a good description of the absent minded professor, I guess. Mhmm. So, well, Brent, you know, the world is, the world's happening. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's happening. Okay? And it's like every day is some bombshell. So, we hadn't talked in a week. Lot of lot of water under the bridge. What what's your, what's your gauge on, what's going on? Or do you know too much? Have you been plugged in? Is Sue Sue keeps you connected or what?
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At this point, of course, miss Francine keeps me informed to send stuff to me. But at this point, it's so overwhelming that it's just it's everywhere. Yeah. And, I can't help but be one of the things that, the Trump administration is doing that that we used to scream about when I was in politics, but nobody's listened. Nobody it wouldn't get any traction. But there was a a couple of media outlets back then. It was thirty some years ago called, NPR, National Public Radio. Right. And then there was the public television stations. Mhmm. PBS. PBS. And these were put in place, by legislation, funded by the federal government during the uncle uncle Lindy uncle Lindy Johnson's presidential administration.
I say that facetiously. That's what we called him uncle Lindy. He was bad news, start to finish, and he was a hardcore racist. And as, somebody in the ancient past said, the the poor people are a gold mine. And that's what the Democrat party has used them for for many decades. Yep. A gold mine. They just want to get public money on the basis of what they're claiming to do for poor people, but they aren't doing anything. And so it becomes a vested interest for them to keep the poor people poor in place and in mass by the billions or millions, I should say. Mhmm. And that's where their money comes from. They cannot win elections, haven't been able to since the beginning by popular vote. They have to cheat.
And they've been cheating ever since. And don't think that when they cheated to get John Kennedy in with 20,000 ghost votes from the graveyard at Cook County, Illinois at the promise of the of the mob, and the mob did promise that and did it. And then, of course, he turned around, appointed his, his boy, brother, his baby brother who had never practiced law, didn't know beans from sour apple butter about it, to attorney general of The United States to prosecute the mob, and that's how the the mob was removed. That's where it all started. But they started because they put him in office. And then he turned around and said, we're gonna prosecute you and throw you out of office or throw you out of your positions as mob bosses and throw you in jail. Well, they weren't gonna stand for that after delivering the votes. And so the rest is history, and you know what happened. But NPR NPR was designed in that great society program to mine mine money from the American public based upon the rich. And they said, these people out in the boonies in in, America, there are a lot of them don't even have a TV station to listen to. So we're gonna provide promotes their point of view and the government's point of view, namely the left. Yeah. Propaganda.
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Better labeled better labeled propaganda.
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Oh, no question. You listen to them and you can bet oh, it's so blatant and obvious and it's it makes you wanna gag just listening to it. You can't do it. Well, when I was running for office, NPR was important. We didn't have any television stations. I I've been saying this all along. I never thought of it this way. We had no television stations in our 27 counties. It was a rural county. And so we had we had television stations on the edge, you know, Paducah, Kentucky, and then we had on the other side, Terre Haute, Indiana. And then we had, well, in the North, there was a station. But all those stations are not in the district. All of them are on the edges. So if you spent $500 for a thirty second ad for your congressional campaign, you lost at least $250 of it because it went the other way to people that, you know, couldn't vote for it. You're gonna say something about it? No. I'm agreeing with you, and I'm trying to mentally visualize what you're talking about, and I can certainly see the dilemma there. Yeah. So NPR was, however, was in the district and there were two stations, television stations that one of them was in the district. Well, no, now come to think of it. They both of those were on the edge of the district too. But the nice thing about NPR, Nice? Well, it wasn't nice. They would invite you in to to have debates and, then with your opponent and and they'd have it on, public, what they what's in there's NPR National Public Radio and then there's PBS.
Yeah. That's PBS. Okay. Well, they were all Public broadcasting systems. What that stands for. They're a % federally funded, and then they they have fundraisers and milk the public for more money and tell them, hey. We're gonna give you the real news. All this other stuff is with commercials. These people are biased, Fox News, all that.
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But we're gonna give you the real news, which wasn't true, of course. Would you like to, would you like to buy that this hundred dollar coffee cup? Yeah.
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Yeah. That kind of thing.
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Well, so I got on. Hold on. Paul's trying to break in. You know what you got, Paul? Oh, just just one quick point. I've always,
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concerned I've always considered NPR to be national propaganda radio. Sure. And they were the they were the the test bed for the Associated Press, which is where they actually spread the propaganda out among commercial
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stations. You mean the, press outlet that's barred from the White House press briefing room? Yeah. The AP news wire. Do you know that Brent?
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Well, no, I didn't know that. I knew that there was, an incestuous connection because I dealt with associated press as well. I had an in with him though. I had an in. Yes. Because Well. The fellow that covered our area had been to the same school I had been to as a as a military man. Uh-huh. And once we discovered that and he started asking me questions and we knew the same instructors and all that, and we've been to so he kinda took a shine to me. You bonded. You bonded. Yeah. And I'm glad that that happened, but it doesn't change the overall reality of the DNC.
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It it has not happened with mister Trump that way. No. Ten years ago. Well, I'm gonna tell you what the problem is because I don't think you've heard. You know, he renamed the Gulf Of Mexico the Gulf Of America. Yep. And AP won't recognize that. They keep referring to it as the Gulf Of Mexico. So he barred them. He barred them from the press room. I even better yet, get this, at the Pentagon, CBS, NBC, ABC, and the regular establishment outlets had offices. They closed them all and kicked them out and gave them to, like, Breitbart, OAN News.
They've even got Infowars as a media outlet at the White House now. Oh. So big big changes. Yeah, man. Woah. I knew that. You know, that tightens their sphincter muscle. Okay? Oh, yeah.
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Well, can you imagine though, and this happened during the Roosevelt's administration in mass using Hollywood and, and, the, for as a media outlet for the left wing communist democratic point of view. It's unbridled, unbridled, life. That's what they want. And they justify it saying that the rest of us are just dodo country boys. Mhmm. Clearly, that's what it is. We don't understand the problem. Look at California. Those dodo farmers down there in the valley, they don't understand the intricate issues of water and the ecosystem. Therefore we're going to do this with water, cut them off, starve them to death. And it means I'm, of course, here's the point, Roger, same thing's true with NPR.
I learned this, I was first told this, my father told me this, by the way, he was one of those country boy dodos that didn't go to high school, you know, and he didn't, but, we had coffee cans tied to the end of sassafras poles with bailing wire. We We poked holes in the edge of the coffee cans and we'd dip them. We were lit we were in the oil patch, so we had a lot of crude oil around and we'd dip them into oil and crowd hogs up in the corner of the of the shed with with, squeeze gates. And then we'd pour that, we'd reach out with those sassafras poles and pour oil into the hogs ears. And we did that, because that that way they wouldn't get ear lice. I'd think about it funny now to me. We we didn't even wanna spend money with Bryte and have it to go to the hog go to the go to the feed store and buy some kind of medication to put in there. Certainly, would never think of inviting a veterinarian out because every time he opened their own truck when he came out, it was an automatic $20, and that was big as a mountain back then. So we took the crude oil and dumped in the hogs ears, and, it was a a sweaty, hard hard job fighting hogs and dumping oil. And they were then they'd flip their heads around and flap their ears and that oil would go everywhere.
And I about, I was just about seven years old probably or eight. And I said, dad, what, why, why, why is this important? And he said to me, Brent, every parasite will consume its host. That's what he said. I remember the very words. Every parasite will consume its host if he's not stopped. And once he consumes his host, kills it, destroys it. That parasite will go look for somebody else to consume and the parasite even thinks he's, he's doing, doing a favor to the world by doing it. Well, that's what you're seeing. What the Bible says, what the horse leech has two daughters. The horse leech has two daughters.
The name of the first daughter is give and the name of the second daughter is give and that's it. A parasite, a horse leech, a horse fly, and all those other kind of parasites, all they do is take and demand that you give. And that's all that these scummy, low down animals like animals. I shouldn't say that's all they want. Give me, give me, give me political activism. Then get, as one fellow said, they went after this one bureaucracy, Trump administration did, and they discovered the bureaucracy had a $9,000,000 war chest, at taxpayer expense, kept up to $9,000,000 in case anybody ever sued them like the federal government was trying to do. They're saying, well, the executive branch who's in charge of these bureaucracies, you the executive branch, you're gonna have to sue us. We're an independent entity. No. You aren't.
You're nothing but an arm of the executive branch and executive branch by a stroke of the pen, wants to get rid of you. Right. That's what's gonna happen. I hope that they keep looking at it that way. There is I got a differentiation
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here for you that I heard people talking about. Some of the agencies were founded by Congress, and some are under the executive committee, like secretary of state's cabinet position. And the USAID was underneath secretary of state. So they could go with that fairly easily with no with total legality and no problems. It's the ones that Congress created, I think, where they
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might have an obstacle to get over. That's just what I heard. Okay? If Congress yeah. I've heard that stuff. I've heard that too. If they're saying that, it's untrue. Congress has no authority under the constitution. The constitution gives them no authority to create bureaucracies. That's not there. If they create one, it's under the president. The whole idea of our constitutional setup is our common law government, that there are three co equal branches of government. And everything in that government, this is our common law tradition, fits under one of those branches, and it's our common law tradition, which is our constitution, is a brief of common law government.
Everything is well defined put under one of those three branches, and the Congress of the United States has no authority to do that. So that that's easy. Now even you, Roger, you're saying you heard about it and you said, well, we don't know. And it's kind of foggy. That's because they're they're saying it's true. When it ain't true, it's never been true. Okay. And it can't be true. And we need to scream to high heaven to never give that kind of power to Congress, except for one thing, by the way, Roger, one thing. Congress has power to do according to our constitution. Yeah. And that is that is collect taxes.
Congress has the power to collect, not only lay them, but collect them. And they have turned that over to the, executive branch, ostensibly through the IRS. The the IRS is under the treasury department. The treasury department is under the president of The United States. The constitution is clear on that point. Listen, if if Congress had the power was, exercised their power under the constitution to collect taxes. How many congressmen would be in office more than two terms? Probably not very many. No. Or one or even one term. And don't think that that wasn't by design. So that that's, we're not gonna put up with congress NPR.
So we were screaming. We were getting on NPR. I got on NPR in my congressional district, and they usually had their television stations. NPR would. And a funded by the state government. Of course. They like all that government stuff. And I got on there with a fellow, who would who ran for governor later, got defeated and a long, long story. But I was on there with him, and we were sitting across the table from each other, big fancy television station with the lights. You know, you can picture. You can't see anything but the guy sitting right next to you, and it's kinda hot. And we're getting, getting right down the business, and the guy sitting across from me who had been in congress for decade or two. I forget how long it been, and he had a a stack of three by five cards in his hand.
And every time that the moderator would ask him a question, he would take the card in the front, put it in the back, and he'd look at the card and just start talking. I thought, boy, this looks odd. I didn't have any cards. I didn't know what the next question was gonna be, you see, but he did. And he had it all set up. It was all rigged against me. And then we had a break. They said, well, let's take a break, commercial, whatever. And we're sitting there and there's and, commercial, I say you list promotion because they don't have commercials on the boat, but we're, we're sitting across from each other.
And now I used to be a sailor, Roger. And I under I understand, cuss words. I know how to use them. One time I got pretty good at it. I'm not I try not to do that anymore. But, but I understand that this fellow sitting across from me, as soon as he was assured that the mic was off, he hoped it was, man, he came at me with the ugliest, most vitriolic statements, that any sailor could have, could have poured out of his mouth. And, I'm just sitting staring at him like, woah, Nilly, you know, and I, you wouldn't, you should never say that your mic might be hot. You know, you just know, but he felt assured.
He called me everything in the book except a white man, as they used to say everything and it didn't stop. And it, I couldn't get a word in edgewise or say, well, I think that's inappropriate, Glenn, or something like that. You know, which I probably would say in public. Now that's uncalled for treat him like a child. That's inappropriate, which I did at another occasion, but it tried to take the high ground. You know, you don't want to come across wrong. And the other people or the cameraman and all the people, the technical people around were listening to him. And then as soon as they said, okay, we're back, we're going back on one. Then they say five, four, like they do. You've been in this state. Countdown. Yep. Yeah. Three, two, one on and then click. And then all of a sudden, he smiles happy. He's the nicest man in the world. Wow.
That's the kind of
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animal. Aster. Yep. Yep. That's the ones a lot of them up there just like that. Just like that. And he's totally.
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He supported Clinton's crime bill. They had a, there was a town in that district that doesn't exist anymore. Roger, a town that doesn't exist anymore. It was one of the most, important economic hubs in our part of the world for a hundred and fifty years, I reckon, starting back with the flat boats that come down the Ohio and the Mississippi. And the name of the place is Cairo.
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Oh, yeah.
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North Of Memphis. You notice Memphis. Those are places in Egypt, by the way. There was Memphis. And then north of that, three hours by car was Cairo. Yep. Coming across come across the tip of Kentucky, then there's Cairo at the confluence of the Ohio and the Mississippi Rivers. Well, Cairo, of course, was an important economic hub because of the river traffic and, the the barges then became important. And men that lived there worked on the river because of all the coal and the lumber coming up and down, Mississippi and the Ohio and that town slowly, slowly, slowly began to go away. It was a and I remember we go down there. It was a a viable economic community and would have meetings.
Well, you go to Cairo now and, Jimson Weeds are growing right in the middle of Main Street. There's nothing there anymore. Really? Yeah. It's weird. I mean, it is surreal because this fell I was running against used to he he go to Congress, him and old Bernie Gray. Bernie Gray called himself the prince of pork. Do you remember prince of pork? Do you remember back in the 1970s, the yacht on the Potomac River that somebody knocked a hole in and it sunk and they couldn't, they said they couldn't get it off the bottom and, and all that. Well, that was Bernie gray's yacht and he was the prince of pork and he was in, the coal miner supported him in mass.
And he said for every dollar that, came out of his congressional district, dollars 3 came back from Washington DC. That's all he lived for. Well, him and old, this other fellow, Glenn, they'd team up together and they poured hundreds of millions of dollars into Cairo to try to prop it up, you know, to keep it going. It didn't work and things like that never work. What I mean to say is Roger, just to repeat it, the reality of it, that the government cannot control economics. I don't care what they do. And this comes down to Adam Smith. Adam Smith, you remember was the Scotsman that wrote a book called Wealth of Nations, about the time it was published about the time our country started and what he argued in that book. He was arguing against what we went to war over to separate ourselves from Britain. Britain had absolute control under the, the, the British East India Company, the British East India company was at war with a Dutch East India company. When I say war, I mean economic war. They weren't pulling guns much, but at any given time, at any given point in time, twenty four hours a day, both the Dutch East India company and the British East Indian company, each of them had over 2,500 merchant ships on the high seas. Now that doesn't count the ones that are important someplace.
That's how intense this competition was. And the parliament in England were the shareholders. Go ahead, Roger. If you, if you upsized them to today's scale,
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they would be as big or bigger than the largest corporations in the world.
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Oh, it was incredible. Then the British Navy and the Dutch Navy, which were both very powerful, their only task was to keep the sea lanes open for that company. And the in America, we were told at that time you can't trade with anybody but the Dutch or the British East India company. And if you do, it's a crime. And that's of course why they threw the T into the Harbor Boston. But even in that, I'm sorry, Roger, go ahead. No, I said, yep. I'm agreeing with you. Go ahead. And in that day that the control was so tight over everybody that, and wool of course was a big product in England. And you couldn't even take if you got caught with a bag of wool. And those of you that haven't been on the farm, wool bags are long burlap bags. I mean, they're long and there's a stuff and full of wool fleeces. And then they tie them off at the end and every wool bag of wool is a measured amount. But if you got caught with one of those bags within 50 miles of the coast of England, the fine with, without the proper, printing on it in a certain size letter in paint, you were fined. It was a criminal act. You were fined massively.
Well, that's the kind of control they exerted all over the world. And Adam Smith wrote a book called wealth of nations saying this is not the way, this will not make our nation the wealthiest. The way our nation will become the wealthiest, he wrote it to influence parliament, is that we have absolutely unfettered free trade with whomever we want to have it. And the Americans don't think that didn't have a strong impact in The United States. It had a stronger impact here. It probably even that than England, there were 8,000,000 people approximately in, well, Britain at that time, 3,000,000.
Well, between two and three million America white Americans, anyway, in the colonies. And, they were readers over here. You know, we read Blackstone by far and away ordered more copies of that than they did in England. We we were on top of what's going on, comparatively speaking, with the mother country, and we said, no. We're not going we wanna trade with other people. We got other people coming in here offering us this and that, and we want to trade with them. And, but even with the restrictions that they put on us, we were more prosperous than England. One of the reason was because we had developed the art of smuggling to a high degree.
I mean, ships were built in the American shipyards in our colonial days before our separation from Britain. Ships were built with the specific design of putting all sorts of compartments all over the ships where you could hide things. And that was part of our economy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And of course they were trying to, it was awful. The merchant law, they tried to extend it into the Admiralty law, all that's true and get rid of the jury and all those kinds of things. But, Adam Smith was a powerful force and Adam's the foundation of all is this. And Adam Smith says this right in the beginning of his book. I remember these kinds of things because that's the first principles of Adam Smith's ideas of economics. He said this, he opens his book. This is a a book by a man. You talk about the absent minded professor.
This man, according to his biographer, was so choked with books that he he seldom was aware of anybody around him. He got invited. Adam Smith got invited to a highfalutin fancy meeting one time in London. He was from Scotland and he was sitting at a big table. Of course, they were bringing out the different dishes and everybody had white gloves on and all that absolute baloney. Well, he was sitting there. He's a Scotsman. He's not into all that, but he was, he was talking and once he'd get to talking, he'd get in the ozone and nothing else mattered. He wasn't aware of anything and he'd just start talking.
And pretty soon he was saying the ugliest things about, in a, in a measured way, but ugly about the policies that a man was promoting in parliament and the guy was sitting right across from him at the table and he didn't know it. Noah. Yeah. He didn't care. That's the way he was. The students, you know, he taught Adam Smith, the most popular course he taught was, the proofs called the proofs of the existence of God. And, in those days, if the students didn't come, he was up in Scotland, he taught at Edinburgh and Glasgow and he would take the stage back and forth across from East to West from Glasgow to Edinburgh, then from Edinburgh to Glasgow teaching university courses.
You know, they wouldn't let the Scotsman come to school down in England because they hated them. They were racist to the hill. That's racism and that's, they hated them. And so they just formed their own universities and that became part of the Scottish enlightenment that produced America. But he he'd go back and forth and he taught this class called the proofs of the existence of God. And then you wouldn't get paid again in those days, unless students came to your classes. Well, all of his classes were packed around the walls. People had to sit on the floor to take his classes. And, he one, one student said Boswell, I think was that his biographer? I don't remember. But at any rate, whoever it was, he said, he'd just start mumbling. He'd stand up in front of the class and he'd start mumbling about this and that. And pretty soon he'd say a word a little louder, and then he'd talk a little more. And he'd say another loud word, and then he'd pretty soon he'd get on he'd get in the groove. He'd get to the point where he was completely oblivious.
After a while, he'd make a good ready just mop, and then he'd be completely oblivious that he was even in a classroom and he just start talking. And it they said pretty soon the subject would start to swell in his hands like a giant ball to the point where he couldn't even hold it. And he'd just drop it and start lecturing about the subject. And people of course were entertained, amazed. You know, it's kind of thing you can't a message, Roger, a message from the mind will communicate to the mind, but a message from the heart will communicate to the heart, and a message from the life, from a life will communicate to a life.
That's always been true and a message from all three, and that's what he was. He, like, other men I could mention in history, and pretty soon his whole being was part of his message and it came across with such a powerful force. But he said this at the beginning of his book, and his whole economic theory is built upon this one thing. He said, the thing that separates men from the rest of the, the, the, the kingdom of life, the animals and the plants and things like that. One of the things that separates us, is our ability to make a deal. And he put it this way. Nobody, he said, nobody ever saw two dogs in a corner.
And by their natural cries, one dog says to the other dog, I will give you this if you will give me that. That doesn't happen. In fact, that and that impulse, it and then he he he goes into detail you could never imagine about how that impulse to get to that point happens. And he makes the point, open markets are open. You wander into a store, you wander into a store on impulse, something grabs you. You don't know why. And you, you, you, or you just wander in cause you're curious and then something grabs you. And there's this impulse that he says, he calls it the great invisible hand of God. Right. Correct. It gives you this Yeah. That's the people have heard of that. It gives you this impulse to want to cut a deal, to buy, to sell, to buy, to sell. And it's this buying and selling. So, so government tried to prop up Cairo.
It didn't work. And I've often used this example also. And when I was running, I talked about it. There's only two cities in The United States that were incorporated by an act of Congress. Just two, just two cities. One of them is Washington DC of course. Yes. And the other one is Shawnee Town, Illinois, which isn't far from Cairo on the Ohio River, by the way. Shawnee Town. And, both of those cities are absolute and utter economic failures. And in shot the case, we know about Washington DC, whoever heard of Shawnee Town, well, Shawnee Town, you can go there today and know nothing there. Just like Cairo. There's nothing there, but there is a massive edifice of a building made out of with Roman columns sitting right down near the river.
Roman columns, it's all made of of massive Bedford stone, very expensive. And that was put there, the federal government, chartered the town, incorporated it, which the federal government has no authority on the constitution to incorporate anything, but they did. They did it so they could put the it was a big move during the days of Andy Jackson and before to put a national bank there. And they thought that that would be the economic hub of all what they came to call the Mid South, you know, the the Ohio Valley and then down for Texas and all that area. Mhmm. They had the national land office there to dispose of all that land that the Colony of Virginia ceded to the general government in Washington, DC to help pay the war debt. And they thought they'd ceded to the general government, which they did. You know, Virginia used to extend as far as land went, but they didn't know how far it went. They knew it went at least to the Mississippi. That was all Virginia.
Wow. And Patrick Henry, by commissioning, a fellow named, Clark, during the war just for separation, he commissioned a fellow with a 60 men to go into that territory and take it back for Virginia because, Britain said it no longer belonged to Virginia. And that's one of the reason we went to war. They did that to all the colonies. They took their Western lands and say, we we gave them to you by charter. Now we're taking them back. And so, Patrick Henry commissioned men to go in and take Vincennes, Indiana on the Wabash River and Kaskaskia, Illinois on the Mississippi. And by doing that, Virginia took back the entire Ohio Valley cleanup and, and Tennis, Tennessee and all what's now called the Northwest Territories.
A lot of it, not all of it was Virginia. Others belong to Connecticut and all those, all those other colonies. They took all that back and then seeded it to the federal government at $5 an acre. They put the land office in Shawnee Town incorporated, Shawnee Town and put the land office there. Well, at that time when Shawnee Town had all that fancy government stuff there, but they didn't have anything else, but they had that fancy government stuff there. There was a, a jerk water village on the mud flats of Lake Michigan called Fort Dearborn And it was just a mess up there. It was mud flats.
Well, they, they started having a little bit of, economic activity up there and the bank was down the national bank. See the branch, the closest one was down in Shawnee Town and it's about, I don't know, 600 miles or some crazy thing. I don't know how far it is from up there down there. And there wasn't any Chicago up there, just the mud flats. Well, these men that lived in this village, the city, the village fathers came to Shawnee Town for a loan. They said, we think there's something happening up here, and, we'd like to have a loan to do some public works. We wanna clean up the swamp and the mud and all that and maybe get some drainage going and get in a sewage system by drainage alone, not pipes. And we got some people and people are moving in, but it's a it's a muddy mess.
And so the board of the bank down there, the national bank said, finally, they may had a meeting and they told these fellows that had come all the way down there. They said, we're not going to give you any money. And they said, why? And they said, well, that blasted place up there, is too far. They said this, it's too far away from everything to any ever amount to anything. And within forty years, and I'm not exaggeration, exaggerating. Within forty years, Chicago was the economic hub of America, if not the world. Oh my goodness. If you don't believe me, just get a railroad map. Uh-huh. What how many railroads go into Chicago? Chicago was the economic hub. It grew so fast and so rapidly because of its connection, of course, to the Atlantic Ocean.
And then and then also the railroads from Montana, from the railroads in Kansas, from then later from Fort Worth, all came to Chicago and carried cattle and everything else from the mines. And so Chicago, and then they fed, Chicago fed Cleveland and all the places along the the Great Lakes that produce steel and all the coal came into Chicago. Everything came into Chicago. Mhmm. And that place by its own, on its own, amounted to everything in America. And without Chicago,
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Chicago is about bad now, but without Chicago, America would have collapsed. It wouldn't be what it is. Hey. Yeah. Go ahead. That was an accident. They were wanted to put it they wanted to put the railhead in Cincinnati or Louisville. I forget which. And they're on the river there and had such an abundance of commerce that they turned it down and went to Chicago.
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Well, but it all happened. Yes. I and you're you're you probably could tell me things I don't know. No doubt you just did. But, Chicago, because of economic forces that had nothing to do with the federal government was what it was. And Shawnee Town quickly faded into nothingness. And when I was growing up, everybody around in our neck of the woods used to say, if Shawnee Town was such a low rotten stinking filthy place, nobody wanted to go there. And the saying was, if you ever got anybody down on the ground in Shawnee Town, you better not let him up. I mean, it was just a rough place, but it was just, it was a place where people went to escape everything, to escape the law, escape their ex wives, to escape anything.
And, you know, about a 1,500 people ended up living there. It's kind of lost that reputation now because of transportation and better roads. But, that's what government will do for you. America is strong because America has had free trade. America doesn't wanna put up with monopolies of power anywhere. As, sir Edward Coke said, monopolies are, against the freedom, against our common law, again, therefore against the freedom of the individual and will destroy our nation. And what the government wants, number one, is a monopoly on force and violence. That's why when the Democrats are in power, they try to increase, police powers.
They wanna give, military weapons to sheriff departments. That's what they want. They love monopolies of vice, violence enforced.
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Until we got to the Biden administration and the defund the police and Yep. And transvestite and queer up the military.
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Yeah. That's and then you you add yeah.
[00:45:54] Unknown:
I I just wanted to comment on a couple of things. Back when Robert Kennedy went in and went after the mob, isn't that when the Rico statue was put in? It was put in originally to go after the mob, wasn't it?
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Well, the re Rico came after that if my memory served me correctly, but don't I I don't know. I just know what Rico is, and I know it was a modern modern more modern, tool for prosecutors, but it got see, all that started with Bobby Kennedy.
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Yeah. Well,
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he, he still had that attitude. Was that good? People say, well, well people say John Kennedy, as they called him Jack, he had a lot of good things lined up to do there. Well, that's all true. And what he wanted, we talked about this yesterday, what he wanted more than anything in the world was to be accepted by Protestant America. He wasn't Protestant. And that was a big deal back then.
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I've been fortunate.
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There was a book written that was very popular. And I remember as a kid people talking about it when John Kennedy was running for president. I mean, even Harry Truman said, this is wrong. Harry Truman told Joe Kennedy, John Kennedy's dad said, you're pushing your boy too hard and you're funding him and you're paying to put him in the presidency and that's wrong, but you're pushing him and he's gonna get hurt. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's I know what he wants to do, but he ain't gonna get it done. He doesn't understand how dangerous this is. I mean, look at DJ Trump. He didn't understand either. Nobody does. Nobody understands force and violence of their opponent until the force and violence is delivered. You can have people tell you, you can agree, you can see it happen to other persons, but until the bullet grazes your head like it did with DJ Trump, you don't understand.
You can't understand because there's something about firsthand knowledge that makes everything real. And when the government comes down with the billy club on you, I remember listening to a fellow who had run for, he had been a Black Panther and he had run for U S Senate in California way back in the day. And, when I met him, he was 60 years old. He was, he wasn't a white man. He was a black man. He was a son of a preacher. And so he knew how to talk, I guess. And he did, but he got up in front of a crowd. I remember Ron Paul was a speaker at this convention in Phoenix, a bunch of other folk that are libertarian kind of folk. And he was one of them. And he said, let me see if I can put it right. He said, a Democrat is a Republican.
No, a Democrat. I'm not a libertarian, but this is what he said. Democrat is a libertarian that does not understand economics. And a Republican is a libertarian that hasn't had his butt kicked by a cop yet. And I, I, I see the wisdom, the observant wisdom of that statement. Do you remember his name? I don't. Uh-uh. He used to be a Black Panther and he wasn't in with the Black Panthers when they took over the the administrative building at UCL, University of California, Northridge. I remember that. He was one of those kinds of guys, but he was, he, he was away from all that. And he was, he was Christian, man, when I met him and, and his, he had calmed down and seen the wisdom of, of, being a little more politic, but, and being doing what the Bible says and not just doing anything, not trying to use force and violence when it won't work. Well, he made the observation though, and this is true, that firsthand knowledge, that's what makes it real to where you're you will act upon your firsthand knowledge, with intelligence the way God wants you to. And that's what God says in the Bible.
That word in the Bible for knowledge and the old testament, Yaba, the root and the Hebrew word and the Greek word in the new Testament, ginosko in the verb form. Both of them don't just mean knowledge. Like we say in the West, like a guy knows a lot. That's not what they mean. Both of those words stress in a stressful way. Experience firsthand knowledge of experience, something that you experienced yourself. Not, you know, we as, as, as members of Adam's race are differentiated from the animal kingdom in another way besides what Adam Smith said, we can look at the bad experiences of other people and learn something. That's true. We can.
We can know about something watching the bad experiences of others, but we don't really know something until it happens to us. But there is that there is that difference. That's true. Roger, you're gonna say something else? I was gonna say a couple of that. Well, I just added that's that's
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probably true. Sounds true to me.
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Who was it? Sam Clemons said, a cat will only will only sit on a hot stove lid once. Once. Right? Yeah. But another cat will watch a cat sit on the hot stove lid and I've seen cats. Cats are funny creatures to watch. You know, they do something like that and they go sneaky. I mean they jump straight up in the air and run off. But another cat will watch a cat do that. Won't learn a thing. They won't learn a thing. They have to experience it themselves. Well, men are like that to a degree. Yes. I can watch another person do something that's painful and say, man, I don't wanna do that. But I, it doesn't really get into my blood to motivate me about it, to be convicted about it till it happens to me.
And when it happens to me, that's what the Bible says. The Christian man and the Christian woman only have one job, one job. And that job is to bear testimony, give testimony. And you can't give testimony unless you're a firsthand witness. You've, you've seen it with your own ears, heard it or seen it with your own eyes, heard it with your own ears. I have a friend who used to say, well, I something funny that happened. They say, well, Brent, that's the way the cookie bounces or that's the way the ball crumbles. And I don't, you know, she never she never knew she was even, mixing metaphors saying that. But I don't want She thought she was being profound, I suppose. But, I got the point she was making.
But when we see and hear things with our own ears and eyes, we touch them with our own hands. We feel the force of the violence of the government against us, the blackjack, the dog, the jail, throwing you in a cage, what whatever it is. Well, then all of a sudden, woah, woah, woah, woah. Now I I knew before. Now I understand. And the Bible says that there is that distinction. And once you, once you don't just know about it, you know it, then you have what the Bible calls and what our common law calls conviction. And without conviction, your knowledge will not you won't be a a moving force among other men and women. It won't come. There has to be that conviction. That's why the man, the man that has been in the firefight on the battlefield knows something.
He's been baptized. He knows something that the other fella that has been through a lot of training does not know no matter how much training he's been through. The training is good. It acclimates you to react without thinking, to know what to do without getting excited. All that's true. But then there's that, that firefight. So in the Bible, every time you see the word no or knowledge, in every case I can see, well, there is an exception in the new testament, but in most all of it, it leads to if it isn't directly said in both testaments experience because God requires of us to be witnesses and witnesses are not witnesses unless they have the firsthand experience.
And God will bring the firsthand experience to you. Don't worry about trying to as Wycliffe said, don't go out and look for persecution. You just do what God tells you to do, and he will bring all the persecution you want and more than you want. It'll all happen. And then you'll be you'll have been in the firefight. You have been a veteran. Then you will have conviction. Then you will become the moving force for others too. That's the way God works. Don't get in a hurry because if you get in a hurry like John Kennedy did, you may get hurt.
He thought he knew what he was doing. He didn't. And, other folk told him that and he had all his father's money to put him into office, even to the point of cheating, which they did. And he was, nobody wanted him because he wasn't, he was an Irish Catholic man that our country did not accept. And I remember that that was a big deal. So I wrote a book called, American freedom. I believe the name of it was American freedom and Catholic power. And people said, if John Kennedy gets into office, what's how do we know his religious convictions being deep that he won't be more devoted to the Vatican than to America? Correct. That's a valid question. And that's exactly how the Protestant reformation happened in the old country.
Henry got tired of Pope wouldn't let him marry all the women he wanted to marry or who he wanted to divorce or whatever it was. And he finally said, somebody said to him, well, listen, all these Roman priests, and there were a lot of them in England, they take, an oath of loyalty to the Pope. How can they take a toll oath of loyalty to the Pope and not have divided loyalty? And divided loyalty at common law is no loyalty at all. None. That's not possible. Loyalty is a hundred percent proposition. And they said they're taking an oath of loyalty to the Pope of Rome. How can they be loyal to, to the, to England and the crown of England?
Well, that's absolutely true. So he said, wow. So he got about 200 of the most high ranking priests in England in one room. And he stood up on a platform in front of him and he said, it's come to my attention that you've all taken the note of loyalty to the Pontiff, the emperor, the imperial Pope of Rome. Pontiff, the emperor, the imperial pope of Rome. And, that means that your loyalty to me, to me and to England is compromised. I wanna know what you got to say about it. I say that's unlawful. And I say it's a capital crime to not be loyal to your own country. That's treason. Yes, it is. Anybody got anything to say, Roger, we've talked about this. You've mentioned it. Yeah.
Anybody? What do you say about that? And you could hear a pin drop, you know, nobody said squat. I wouldn't either. Would you Roger? No. No. They they knew there was a response. What's I'll be done with this story and then you can talk. And, and he said, okay. I take silence and that as acquiescence in your crime. And, he find them all soundly. I mean, real soundly. He got a lot of silver out of them Yeah. And said, I won't I won't kill you, but I want you to reject your loyalty to Rome. You're now loyal to me. I'm the head of the church of England. That's how it all happened, friends. Yeah. And, that's what happened. Well, so And that gives us I well, I'm gonna interrupt Paul. Just wrap you up. That gives us silence deems consent.
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Mhmm. That's where that comes from, Paul. Yep.
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Yep. Yeah.
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Let's see. RICO is a weapon used by the government, against monopolies they don't own, and it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out. Another thing people need to know is how to get ahold of you because we've got, like, two minutes, and the whistler's gonna be interrupting you. So talk about it. Common Lawyer.
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Thank you, Brent. The matrix docs. I do did the whisper come around, or you'd like something to It it'll it'll be here momentarily. Ah, okay.
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So got it down. I want want to add something. The RICO is not just a government, but civilians can use it. The reason I know that is because Glenn wrote a RICO suit when he was up in minimum security in, Minnesota for a guy he met in prison and became became befriended with. And, they're they the opposing attorney came all the way up to the jail, minimum security, Northern Minnesota, somewhere, and offered them $3,000,000 to settle, and they turned them down. One of the things about RICO that is, kinda scary if you're on the defendant's side is they got treble damages.
[01:01:09] Unknown:
Right. But try to bring a Rico suit as an individual. You have to be
[01:01:17] Unknown:
the caliber of Glenn. Oh, well, I'm sure that. I have no doubt about that. I'm just saying, but it can be used from the other side. Brent, I wanted to mention you were talking about Adam Smith, and, of course, I've been down here in South America for a long time. And you get in discussions with people, especially ones that speak English down here, it makes it easier. But they always start blaming capitalism for stuff. Capital of course, that's the communist line. But they don't realize we're not in true capitalism like Adam Smith. He he used gold and silver, and we had honest weights and measures. And what you have now is kind of a a vulture capitalism by the money powers that stack all this compound interest in there and still call it capitalism.
So that that was one thing, big differential, it appears. I don't know if you've heard this, that mister Trump may be about to put us on some percentage of a gold standard. Have you heard anything about this, Brent?
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Very little.
[01:02:17] Unknown:
Would you then you don't know what's happened in those markets. There is virtually no gold left in the London Bullion Market Exchange. All of a sudden, in the last couple of weeks, copious amounts of gold have been taken out of those types of facilities. I guess all over the world, I know more about the London Bullion Market Exchange. There is no more gold there that they owned and controlled. And the people that had gold stored there, they're offering them to lease it, and they'll pay them 16% per month. Uh-huh. Per month. So all that gold is moving over The US. Both Trump and Elon have announced they're gonna audit Fort Knox, and Elon wants to take cameras in there and do it streaming.
So that's on the back burner. And Trump is talking about at least floating the, trial balloon, if you will. I'm sure it's more than that. About issuing a fifty year and possibly a hundred year bond at the two hundred and fifty commemoration next year that's backed by gold. So we're definitely, it appears, going into some sort of a specie backed currency to some extent is what it would appear. And I think that I think mister Trump is probably gonna do that and, and and revalue gold. Now to what is gonna be the question, but there's something big happening in the background.
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Well, gold is, who was it? It wasn't Adam Smith, but it was, Oh, it's Sam Johnson. Sam Johnson is the father of the English dictionary. And Sam, you know, before Sam Johnson, there was no standardized spelling in the English speaking world. Peoples even the most educated people spelled words, any way that came to mind conveniently at the time they were writing them. So Really? That that was a a tradition that continued up through my great grandparents. I've got letters from my grandpa and great grandpa on one side where he spells, the same word two different ways in the same line on a letter to his brother. You know?
Of course, they're not unusual, but used to be that's why everybody well, he wrote this dictionary. And by doing so, that began the process of standardization and spelling, but he made a lot of observations. He you know, if a guy is do dealing with words intensely for decades like he did, There's more in the history of the etymology of a word often than there is in the history of a military campaign. An an education comes down to words, friends. Oh, yeah. And that's a a a well kept secret in academia that you think they know about this and that. No. No. They just know about words. But they know a lot about words, and it makes them appear very, very well versed.
But that is the way it is. Words are that important, and we need to give them that kind of attention. Well, Sam Johnson was one of those kind of guys that knew a lot about words and so he knew a lot about a lot of things and he used to go to the little place where he worked and he did all of his writing and there was a what they call we call them shoeshine boys here in America, but over in Britain, they used to call them boot blacks. Yeah. And the boot black could be out there to put that black stuff on your books. That boots, they wouldn't shine them, but they'd make them look black. And the boot black was out there and he stopped to get his boots blacked. And, the boot black said, I don't want to black your boots today. I'm too busy.
Of course they're very class conscious still in England. And at that time, two hundred some years ago, they were very class conscious and he was put off that this lowly boot black told him to go fly a kite and he wouldn't put any in there. He had had no way to make him put, the black on his boots. But this guy was working, but he didn't want to do his that day. He said he was too busy. So he got to thinking about it and he said, Oh, I figure I gotta, I gotta figure it out why he's acting that way. He's, insubordinate toward a man of a higher class than he is, but why? And here's what he said. I'm going to quote what he said. He finally came to this conclusion. He said this, he erp, well he observed that he was paying them in silver.
See, that was different too. But he said, gold and silver destroy feudal subordination. Gold and silver destroy feudal subordination.
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Quite profound.
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That's profound. And, but here's the key to that. It of course bears explaining. It is true, but if you don't hold it in your hand, you ain't got it. And when you start talking about a gold backed currency and all that, I don't want to do that. Although that's better than what we got. We used to have that, but that helps. But that just that enables still corruption and lying and banking. That's what that's all about. We used to say when I was in the gold fields working as a geologist, we'd we'd say people say, oh, I got gold, and I found it in the water. And we I got this special method. We could extract it out of seawater. We could extract it out of this water in this well I pulled out of the ground here on the side of the mountain. We'll make billions. And my response was always the same. If you can't show me gold in my hand that I can see with my own eye winkers, it doesn't exist.
And at the end of the process, real quick, you may have a process you have, but you gotta get it into a gold button in my hand or I don't wanna I don't wanna talk about it. And that's the way it is with gold. When it comes to gold, my friends, don't be buying certificates that say you own gold. Yeah. The guy in the gold bank or wherever they say they're keeping it, he's selling you a a bill of goods. How do you know it, sir? You don't. And and and gold, I've discovered this for what it's worth, gold, when once people see it, the the temptation to steal it is almost beyond beyond resistance.
Yes. You're gonna do it. I mean, the biggest gold stealers in America, when I had a a lot of silver and gold one time, I was supposed to keep for a guy. I didn't wanna keep it. That's dangerous. And he was it was, an entrusted it was entrusted from his father. And so I went looking for a place to store it. I didn't wanna keep it. And there was enough gold there you could pay for the storage, and it it would it probably would have paid off. Well, I went to places like Brinks and those kind of places. I discovered that, most gold theft goes on in Brinks and other places that are supposed to be secure.
Well, the reason for that is it's just irresistible. That's why gold drives the wealth to the individual and you don't trust other people with it. You find out if you do that, you're gonna lose it. No. You keep your own gold and your own silver. That's what you do. And if you do that, it will destroy. And if that becomes the medium of exchange as it was once in America in a big way, by the way, Don't think that didn't have something to do with making us who we are. I mean, in Northern California until, Roger, until World War one in Northern California, and that's everything from South Of Bay Area, North Bay Area North, during until World War one, the the dominant currency was privately minted gold. Mhmm.
[01:09:52] Unknown:
Government government money didn't have much influence and it just what didn't float around in those places. Yep. But gold did, and that's what people used. And the mint didn't the San Francisco mint you could go out and mine and find your gold and take it to the mint, and they'd mint it up for you. Well, there were a lot what the charge was.
[01:10:09] Unknown:
Yeah. But there that's true what I read, but there are a lot of private mints that would do it. And there are still private mints in America. Don't Oh, yeah. Of course. But you gotta find them, but they'll do they want the business, and they'll put your stuff in a coin or or bar, however you want it. And there's there's more gold. People people think we're gonna run out. This is the little left. The left says, oh, there's just so much and we've got it's not sustainable. We gotta build windmills. We're gonna run out of oil. They've been build wind windmills have just and have have destroyed Europe. Germany now is nothing.
The windmills and all that baloney cost four times the energy is four times more expensive than than they woulda had if they'd had coal. It's And it's destroyed their they don't Germany is not even making much cars anymore, Roger. No. No. They're not. They're utterly annihilated.
[01:11:03] Unknown:
They got an election coming up in the next couple of days. Yeah. And the German officials are saying if the AFD, the moderate party, wins, they're not gonna recognize their win.
[01:11:15] Unknown:
I mean, they're about to crash the whole damn thing over there. Well, they're not left, and they're not even their economy is just gone because they're not producing anything. The green, all this baloney of worshiping the environment, the green has destroyed them and they're trying to destroy us. Yep. Trying to destroy us. Listen, we've got enough coal just from what we know we have in America, enough coal to run us for a thousand years even at if we took coal and it provided all of our energy, if it did, it it doesn't, of course. But, like, for our cars and our electricity, everything, We got enough to run just from what we know for a thousand years, but we don't know that. We don't know what else we've got, but gold is the same way. Oil is the same way. We've just discovered the two largest what our major export in America is oil. Yep. We got lots of oil and we're, we're overwhelmed with natural resources because of our common law tradition. We're enjoying them.
Russia has one sixth of the earth, of the earth's landmass and they've been starving for seventy five, eighty, ninety years. They got more timber, more gold, more oil, more diamonds, more gas, more farmland than any country on the planet and they're starving. Why? Here's why. Because of our, they don't have our common law tradition. They call themselves the Roman empire that continued and they're under like all communist nations. They're under the code of Justinian, the Canon civil laws of Rome and it destroys the economy for a lot of reasons. But not to go in, you'd get the book excellence of the common law and for what I've for what it's worth, what I found out the reasons, what the difference is.
Their agricultural system will destroy them. The agricultural system of the Roman law of the code of Justinian, we call it the Roman agricultural system. It's all over the world. It destroys everything. In America, we have what we call the common law tradition of agriculture and it has fed the world and continues to feed the world. We fed Russia when they were starving. We have surplus. Why? Because our common law tradition isn't called the law of the land for nothing. All of our wealth comes out of the land and the law of the land has developed, to take advantage of what God has given us. And that's what God wants. All he wants, and if you follow what God wants, our common law tradition is in sync with our Bible. The laws of nature, the laws of nature is God. And if you adhere to that, those two volumes of law, the first one unwritten are common law, the second one written. If you follow those, then you will have all the preservation mechanisms in the law to take care of the land, to not waste the land and to do it the way God said do it according to his terms, not according to yours. And this, this worship of creation, more mice and bugs and ecosystems are more important than starving babies will destroy the ecosystem and men. Listen, Roger, I know I'm not preaching to you just to say in general, we are a special, we are the crowning of God's creation. The race of Adam, the crowning, the Bible says, and I see it and we are responsible for this creation. We are responsible for the land. That's the heart of our relationship to our God, the land the Lord our God has given us under trust, the trust settlement of God. And because we have that, we can enjoy it and glorify him. And that's what he wants, but we must do it according to his terms. And there's more here than we could ever use according to him.
If we would do that and worship him instead of worship in his creation, worship the creator, attribute all worth to him. That means do what he says. Then all of this will accrue to our benefit, his glory, just like he says he wants and we will be the head as a, as a nation, the juror, the juror, a Christian nation, the Christian culture. We will be the head as we have been and not the tail. Yep. And that's what Trump is doing and all of the folk that support him in America, I should say what America is doing, not Trump, what America is doing. He's a politician. He's just following the massive movement that go in that direction. He says, okay, that's what you want. I'll get into office and I'll do that. That's the way politics works. And I'll do it and I'll do it in spades. I'll do it spades. He's doing it. He has the mandate.
That is great. We gotta have that. That's indispensable. But without a critical mass of men and women who follow the Christian culture and those two volumes, the laws of nature unwritten and lex non scripta and the laws of nature's God are our Bibles without folk, a critical mass, a culture of that. As Carroll Quigley said, he said that too. As as left wing wacko as he was, he understood that. If we don't have that, then it won't work. What DJ is doing is utterly meaningless. Because people then, if he does all this, how long is that gonna last? How long is he gonna be in office? Yeah, but who's gonna be in office next? And we know that the political power swings back and forth massively and what, who they're going to crown as King one day they're going to crucify the next. Doesn't the Bible teach us that?
And I have seen that. I remember when I was running for office, Roger, I was a popular guy. I had more name recognition in my 27 counties than anybody on the face of the planet. And we bought it. And of course that's the way politics works. Spent about a million dollars for a congressional race thirty years ago. That was a lot of money. Spent a million dollars. The only fellow that had more name recognition in my 27 counties with Bill Clinton, he had 97, 90 eight percent and I had 92, but that doesn't mean I'm a great guy. As I said, if you got money like Joe Kennedy had, you just buy that stuff. See, that's the way you do that. That's politics. But nonetheless, I had all that rah rah rah rah rah, and the day after the election, I'm standing in the campaign office, four or five copying machines around me that I didn't know what to do with because they didn't belong to me. Paper all over the floor. I'm standing in the office by myself.
And within a few hours before the place was crowded with people excited, right? Yeah. That's politics. Let's get away from that. Get away from that mentality. Quit worrying about all that and say, no, the thing we got to have in our hearts and minds is the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God as our declaration of 76 says. And it comes down to my friend, what is your conviction in that area? What are you willing? You can't be convicted about the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God unless you know something about it. That's why we encourage folk and I'm here. I've met I'm getting older like you, Roger. What are we gonna do? What influence can we swing for good? And that with the time we've got left, you've got a lifetime of experience. You wanna give testimony. So I said, okay. This is what I'm gonna do. I've got some people that are helping. We're going to do what we can to uphold this massive movement that's going on. People are saying, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're you're right. That's what we need to do, DJ.
But what's the foundation of all this? It's like always no government exists unless it has a foundation of law. What is it? Well, it's our common law tradition. That that's a biblical tradition, by the way, of two volumes. But there is no law without a law giver. A law giver of final arbiter of right and wrong and individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. And who is that law giver? The maker of all things, the creator God. And if without that sensibility in the hearts and minds of a critical mass of folks in your country, and we're talking to people as Paul says, across the drink, across the drink, God bless them. We have something in common with them. What is it? Our common law tradition. Without that, you ain't got nothing. You'll lose everything. Without law, the proper point of view about our law, we lose everything. I don't care what the rah rah rah, the political excitement is. And DJ Trump, it's not his job necessarily to teach all that. It's his job to act. He is called the executor, the executive branch. He's doing something.
The Democrats do nothing. They just talk. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Oh, we got the homeland. Yeah. We did this. They lie, lie, lie, and steal, steal, steal. And this is the thing too. If they said we're gonna put a hundred thousand cops on the streets, Is that what it takes? No, that's not what it takes to have a safe community and just throwing money at it. That's all they ever do. They never do anything. Biden and Obama are in office. You know what they did? Nothing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And things just go to hell in a hand basket. You got to do something. They did nothing. They didn't care. By the way, by the way, John Kennedy did nothing. He had that Harvard accent.
This is the democrat. They talk, they talk, they talk. What do they do? Nothing. Why? Because they don't know how. It's not part of their culture to do something. It's part of their culture to be loved and liked, and that's all that matters and have fun and play with girls. That's what the men do. I don't know what the girls do, but that's what of course, that is exemplified in all of that. There's the good and the bad, but the bottom line is folks, again, it doesn't matter what goes on in the White House, the State House, the Court House. It matters more, in the world, everything, what goes on in your house. What is the law of your house? You know the word economics.
It's a new testament Greek word. It's all over the new testament. What does it mean? Means house. Means law in the Greek tongue. That's our word economics. What is economics? That's how you run the law of your household. How do you run it? What, what kind of personal view starts with a personal conviction you have, my friend and a conviction. A conviction is something that does not change no matter what. And the only way you can get a conviction, listen to me, the only way you can get conviction is by personal firsthand experience.
You can't get conviction by going to school. You can go to seminary, you can go to Bible college, you can go to state university, you can do all, you go to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, go all those schools that will not give you conviction until the force of the evil empire comes down on you and you're in the war and you know it. That's how conviction got,
[01:22:07] Unknown:
somebody wants to say something. Yes. Miss Joan has a comment or question. Hi, Joan.
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Hi. Hey, Brent. What is it about Russia that they are not taking care of and tending to their land according to, the law of nature and the law of God? What, what are they leaving out? What are they not doing to, to make their land productive?
[01:22:36] Unknown:
Russia, the saying to Russia, see here as quickly, I won't take long from what I understand, going back a few centuries, the last vestige of the Roman empire, the Roman empire finally was reduced to the city of Constantinople and the year I believe was 1453. Does this matter? Yeah. This matters real big. Yeah. Ancient history matters, friends. Then you understand a little more. Here's what happened. It was, it was reduced to that. Constantinople. It wasn't Roman. The Rome was moved. The headquarters was moved to Constantinople under Constantine, the Roman Emperor. Constantine changed the name of Istanbul to Constantinople and the city became impregnable. They had walls upon walls, upon walls. They said nobody will ever get into this city.
180,000 Islamic Turks surrounded the city and vowed they would reach the walls. There was a, a turncoat, a turncoat, a trader named Urban Guedes, and he had an engineer. He had developed a brass cannon that would fire a projectile that weighed, I believe, 1,200 pounds. I mean, if you've got a, if you've got a, a 10 pound piece artillery, you've got a big Canon. And, during our, our wars, when we had like the war between the States and all that, they had cannons that would shoot four pounders, five pounders. That was huge and scary. This thing fired a projectile that weighed 1,200 pounds and it worked.
And they were not stupid. They understood the laws of stress and strain and rupture. You know, if you keep banging away at a rock in the same place, you don't even have to hit it hard. At some point with a sledgehammer, it will explode into a thousand pieces. Yeah. That's called the laws of stress and strain that occurs in that. You can draw graphs that show you when a thing will rupture knowing what the material is. Well, they pounded away at one place in the walls with that cannon that fired that projectile of 1,200 pounds, those Islamic Turks. Finally, they hit it enough times.
It exploded, fell apart. And of course they had it all mapped out. There was more than one wall and I won't go into all the details, but they poured into the city of Constantinople and the emperor had taken mass. He was Greek Orthodox court, taken mass or Roman, taken mass that morning and put on his armor. He knew what was going to happen. They found his body. He was dead. But before all that happened, the priesthood could see it coming. They said, we got to get out of here with our manuscripts of the new Testament in Greek, in the original tongues. If we don't do it, all that's going to be lost because those just want me to go. And all the jewels and treasure.
And that's the point. To the jewels and treasures of the Roman empire, the crown of the emperor and all that. And they grabbed that stuff. Somehow they got through the lines. I don't know where I'd have to go back and read, but they wound up in a place called Moscow in Russia and a niece. Now there's, there's a difference of opinion about this, but it's true. But however, how it worked out, there's a difference of opinion. But somehow the, family, a niece of the emperor married into the czars of Russia and Russia said there's been, one Roman empire and another one they'll ever be. You can look up the exact quote and we are the Roman empire and Russia, the Russian czars were called czars. They weren't called czars before, but they were called czars. After that they had the crown jewels of the Roman empire and a bunch of other idols and artifacts they said had magical powers as they were. That's idolatry to attribute the powers of God to a created thing. They said they had that and the czars called themselves czars because in, in the Russian tongue, that's the way to say Caesar.
Caesar, Caesar of the Roman empire, they called themselves the Caesars. And the law they had, was the code of Justinian of the Roman empire of the sixth century. And that code Russia took as the bad side. So that they and Russia and all communist countries, China, North Korea and all countries of the world that aren't overtly communist are all under that code. Now It's easy to start a country. You only got four or five, six volumes of law and that's it. You don't have, then it's like the common law tradition, separation of powers, independent judiciary, all that, independent executive, independent legislative branch.
You just got a government of a single will. Well, that's what Russia has been and the czars were the seizures they said of the Roman empire. That's again, why they call them czar. That's Russian for Caesar. So the reason, then they still have that law. It's an oppressive law of a single will. It's good in the short term to get something done. It's a militaristic kind of law. So you can get things done fast if you wanna make the trains run on time like Mussolini, you know, you can get things done fast, but it doesn't work in the longterm. Our common law tradition works in the longterm and it just swells and get more powerful. In Rome under the law of the city, which is the communist system fit well under the Roman empire because the political boss, becomes the government, Stalin, whoever it was, Reznef, they become the government. Their will, the political, the law of one man of a single will becomes all three branches of government and he decides what's right and that's the end of it. Very simple.
Our common law tradition is not like that. Our common law tradition, three co equal separate branches of government and none of those branches, three branches of government have lawful authority to tell the other one what to do. Oh, they can tell them what to do. They can't make them do it. They don't have any any any, tools to do that. I mean, the president of The United States could, beat down the doors of the Supreme Court. If he doesn't have authority to do it, he could do it. But in a common law country where we have common law sensibilities of a critical mass of the people that have developed over centuries, it ain't gonna happen. And it takes centuries, my friend. Somebody asked one time about this fellow, went to, an English estate and they saw all the beautiful gardens around the estate and how well kept they were and the shrubbery had grown up over the decades and was beautiful and shaped a certain way and all that baloney.
And, he said, how can I, how can I get this and, and transfer this idea to my country? And the fellow that owned the garden said, well, the only way you can get a garden like this, an English country garden is over centuries. I, you can't transfer this to your country. And that's just an analogy. I'm trying to make an analogy. What our common law tradition is. I'd said, I think last week that the, the Mexican constitution of the year, they called it the Mexican constitution of 1824. It parrots the phrases of our constitution of The United States. And that was their official law of Mexico when the Anglos of America, the American Anglos, they persuaded them to migrate into what they call Texas on a promise that they would adhere to the Mexican constitution of 1824.
But it wasn't that and they never did it by the way. But it wasn't that they wouldn't do it. They couldn't do it. It's not part in their religious world. Their religion would not allow it. That's what it comes down to friends because underneath the law giver, whoever your law giver is and your response to your law giver, whether it be a man or a woman or a thing or creation or yourself or whoever it is, anything but the creator, it's some part of creation. And under that law, the, the, law giver, your response to your law giver, that's the definition of what religion is. Well, look at it as you may have met a fellow from communist China two nights ago in a restaurant and I, or a coffee shop that was kind of a restaurant. And I said, where are you from? He said communist China.
And I said, well, are you a communist? You know, he laughed. He said, well, no, no. But he said the communist party, runs China. Well, of course they do. The boss, they call him in communism, whoever's head of the party under the code of Justinian becomes as, call him what you want. He's the emperor, he's the dictator, he's the party boss, whatever you want to call him, but he has absolute power. All three branches of government gathered into a single will. And, I said, well, you got religion? That's what I ask people often when I meet them and just to get a response. And he said, oh, oh, no. No. I don't have religion, but I'm very spiritual. And he was younger than me, and I felt confident to say it. And I said, now what in the world does that mean? You're very spiritual.
Can you define that? I said, I bet you can't, but go ahead and try. You know? And he was a nice fella is what I'm saying. I thought I could get away with saying it. And he I did. And he said, well, that that well, I don't know. He he had fumbled around. He didn't have a clue. He was just repeating what was a popular thing to say. When somebody says I'm very spiritual, I'm not religious. Just know they don't have a clue what's going on. They don't understand Christianity at all. Christianity is concrete. It's practical. It acts, it works. It has results. Jesus Christ resurrected in the body, not in the spirit for, for, for an important reason.
Christianity is where the rubber meets the road, my friends and the people that want a spirit, Oh, I'm spiritual law. They don't even know what they're, they don't know what they're saying. They just want to be accepted and be a nice person. And that's a nice thought. No life's rougher than that. Life is real. Life is war. Life can get bloody. It can be get violent and you better know what to do when it comes at you. And the evil empire wants to murder, to kill and destroy. Yeah. And you want to talk about spirituality like the left? Oh, let's just all love each other. It's all mush friends and it will result in murder, death and chaos. The, the culture of the left is a culture of death.
The culture of the right is the culture of death of men. The culture of the right that is right, I should say Christianity, is a culture of life based upon the death, burial, and resurrection of our God. Amazing love. How can it be? Says the old hymn. Amazing love. How can it be? That thou my God shouldst die for me. Have you noticed that in the evil empire, your, their God doesn't die for them. They die for their God. Yeah. It's just the opposite. A hundred thousand Japs, men, women, and children jumped off the cliffs at Iwo Jima and sacrifice to their God.
That wisdom man said he was 42 generations, a son, s o n, of the sun, s u n, called the emperor of Japan. They sacrificed themselves to him. The, when my father was at Okinawa, he said the planes come down over the Hills and they have brush fires from the top of the mountain and built in long trains right down to the targets on the beach that they wanted to blow up. They knew where the ships were gonna come in and those kamikaze fighters that come over the top of the mountain. But the other side of the island comes roaring down at night, following the embers of those fires they had built to run into those ships and die for their God, their emperor. And if you were in a building and the emperor was on that white horse riding down the street in Tokyo, and you were above him on the second story or higher, and you didn't have your window shade closed to keep you from looking down upon the God of the Japs or the God of the world, they said, then you would be executed.
Yeah. That's the way it is all over the world, friends. You got a law giver, you got a little arbiter of right and wrong and individual instances, removes decision. There is no appeal. And Hegel said this, I'll just a minute. I'll quit. Hegel, the Nazis said this, they had the Hagel's book printed, passed out to everybody in the SS and all. What did Hegel say? Hegel said he was a godless man, a philosopher, German philosopher. They worshiped this point of view. Hegel said the government is God walking on earth. What does Rome say? Rome says the Pope is in place of Jesus Christ, Vicar of Christ on earth.
If you've got the law of the city, the code of Justinian, if it's in your country, I don't care what other trappings of religion you got, the state, the the government becomes God walking on earth. That's right. And if you do that, God's gonna get you sooner or later and destroy your country. He God, the Bible says, God sets that kind of thing up sometimes or just allows it to be set up. He hardened the hearts of men against himself, like Hagel, God is dead and all that baloney. And then he destroys them. Is it any wonder Germany is in the position it's in? I know. I know. He uses evil men to come against what they were trying to do that was proper. They were trying to destroy bullshit bullshit. Say it for me, Roger. Bolshevism. Bolshevism.
Anyway, they tried which was a a radical religious movement, of course, as you know. Sure. You can go look it up. But they wanted to destroy international. They saved, trying to save Europe from all that. But in the midst of all that, they spit in God's face. I don't care how you cut it. That's what you do when you take on the law of the city. You're saying, God, oh, we're in place of Jesus Christ down here on earth. That's the definition of antichrist. Get it folks. Antichrist is not to say I'm against Jesus Christ. That word is used four times in the New Testament, Antichristos.
It means, Oh, I'm here in place of Jesus Christ with all the authority of Jesus Christ. I am vicar. I am anti. Those two prepositions, Latin and Greek mean the same thing. It means to be in place of, instead of, and have all the authority of. Vice president. That's the Latin equivalent to ante, the preposition ante. Or you end up being against Christ. That's right. Anti against, but at the same time it has more, more of a shade, more of a more color to it. That's what I'm trying to say. Somebody tried to say something, but that's That's John again, I think. John, was that you again, sweetie?
[01:37:32] Unknown:
Yes. Hey, Brent. I thought when you first was saying about, you know, several minutes ago, when you first brought up a brochure and all the natural resources they have, they have everything they need. Yeah, but the but you said, but they don't have they don't follow the law of nature and law of God. And that's why their land is that's why their land is not productive. I thought maybe you were saying saying there's specific tech, script that say, do these gardening or agricultural techniques and your land will be productive. But no. That's not what you were saying about why your land is not productive.
[01:38:20] Unknown:
Call me slow on the uptake, but the reason the land is not productive, the reason they were starving for seven years with one sixth of the land mass of the world more farmland than any country in the world Mhmm. It's because their agricultural system is not a system of the law of the land. It's a system of the law of the city where you Yep. Where you take people off of the land and bust them out to work the land as slaves without without any reward. And you will starve. Egypt did that. China's doing that right now. Russia did it. The agriculture system of our common law is more sophisticated and it works well. And in America, we've been feeding the world, including those countries I'm talking about for a long time. Not because we're better than them. It's because we have a different mindset and that mindset, my friends, comes over centuries.
The only, and the only reason it works is because of the critical mass of us that have that mindset. And that's what the evil empire had been wanting to destroy in the twelve years that went before DJ Trump. Eight years with Obama as the front man and another four years with Biden as the front man and Obama running things. We got twelve years of opening the borders, letting people in that do not have that mindset. You know, assimilation has been the policy of immigration, since our country began because we want people to come, but we want them to come in a way that we overcome them and they don't overcome us. But the evil empire wanted them to come, the Islamic man that was set. I can't believe this, but there it is sitting in the white house. Of course, he cheated too. He did. Do you never convince me he got elected as president, but he he's opened the board and said, we want everybody to come and we want people to come that have the mindset that is against our law of the land. Our law of the land allows the land to give up its wealth and friends. There's more there than we could ever recover. The Mo the recent I read this thirty years ago when I read another report over the USGS, United States Department of, you know, USG, the mines and minerals and all that USGS.
But they said that at the most, at the most, only 5% of recoverable gold has been recovered from the Lower 48. I'd say it's less than that. The the well US Geological
[01:40:50] Unknown:
Survey.
[01:40:51] Unknown:
Thank you. The US Geological Survey. Appreciate it. And we have well our land is so filled with wealth that we it's inexhaustible. You say it is? Yes. We're just learning how to tap into it. When I was growing up, we had oil wells at home. My dad worked an oil patch when I was growing up, 300 feet deep. We had one well I knew of there 150 feet deep. It was drilled many years ago. We just keep going deeper. Now at home, they got are going down a couple thousand feet and then they're going horizontal, like the spokes, brilliant. Yep. Horizontal, like spokes out into the formation. They're recovering. You know, for years, we only when we took oil out of the ground, We only took at the most 70% of what was in the formation. We couldn't get the rest out. Well, then they developed flooding. And we started, they started using dynamite at the bottom of the hole, and that got a lot more. That increased production. Then they started, using what they called flooding.
Mara Flood, Marathon Oil developed what they called Mara Flood. And they flooded those formations that they gave up on. They got more oil out of them that way than they got the other way. And then, and then they started fracking. Look, is fracking dangerous? Does it hurt something? Fracking is done in a way now that is not dangerous to the environment. It's getting better all the time. But my point is this, get off all the details of it. God has given us crowned us with the creativity as long as we're not idolaters. Idolatry destroys human creativity.
The creativity and the ability to put together the law laws of nature to get to, to give, to get the old cow, to get the earth, to give up her wealth. But if we abuse the earth, it's gonna stop. And the Bible tells us how to not abuse the environment, not the Sierra Club. Those guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. The Bible and the spirit of God that comes through with the new birth puts it in a man's mind and heart to understand how not to waste the natural resources. And God says, if you will do it my way, there will be no end to the blessing. And I can see that now.
I've said this often. We, people say, Oh, we're going to run out of oil and there's only so much. We got to go to Saudi Arabia to get oil. And we've discovered in America within the last couple of decades, the largest, the largest oil reserves under the ground ever been discovered discovered in the history of the world. Yeah. One up in North Dakota, another one down in West Texas. Yep. Relax friends and see the the whole economics of the left is, there's a limited amount of wealth and we gotta divide it up. That's the whole economics of the left. Yeah. We own everything and you don't get any of it. That's what it comes down to. But the economics of the right is that we got God has given us, an embarrassment, an veritable embarrassment of riches.
And he says, do it my way, recover it my way, pay attention to the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. Do what I want, and I will bless you beyond your wildest imaginations. That's the law of the land, our law of the land in our two volumes. Roger, stop.
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I wanted to tell Joan that you were referring to the communist years. You said the seventy years. Because what has happened with Russia, you know, Russia's got the strongest balance sheet of any country in the world right now. K? Do you know that? Brent?
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Oh, I thought you were talking to her. I'm sorry. No. No. No. I've I've heard that. Yeah. Go ahead, Roger. Well, what happened was it was us.
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We went over because these Trotskyites, they hate Russia. And they hate Russia because of Kazaria, which is Ukraine Yep. And everything that happened there historically. And they hate Russia because they stopped their first attempt at a new world order. And after the defeat of Napoleon, all the European countries got together and Russia voted against it. And they've always hated them since then. Okay? A a bunch of a lot of those people just hate each other over there in all those European countries, rivalries, etcetera. But, what happened was these maniacs that have been running our country, started throwing all those sanctions on Russia.
So Russia had to go back and start developing themselves internally. And so they've developed all those resources. They got every resource in the world. Okay? And and they're starting to develop that. On top of that, they go back and have been for about fifteen years, I think, divesting themselves in their treasury of US bonds. I don't know if they've got any US bonds, and they converted all that to gold. Uh-huh. And so that's where the BRICS thing comes from. They got one of the strongest balance sheets in the world, if not the. And on top of that, with these idiots that hate them so much and cannot control their hubris and their emotions, All they did was drive Russia and China together, which is exactly what nobody wanted.
Yep. And so now what Trump is doing is he's going back from the unipolar world that these guys had, American exceptionalism, etcetera, and he's going back in court in Russia and China, and Trump wants to make it a multipolar world. Look. Let's all exist. We can all do fine. We can all prosper. We'll just share. Go back. Let's here here's a here's a bone for you. Why don't we all go in and cut 50% of our defense spending? And that'll lessen the rivalry. Okay? And all these things. So I'm very I'm just so encouraged of of I never dreamed I'd see this day in my lifetime.
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Well, I didn't think of it either, but I heard him say the other day at a White House press conference. And, yeah, we wanna we're looking forward to the fifty first state, which will be Canada. Yeah. Right. Well, this makes sense in this sense. Yeah. We have been we've been our military and our money and our blood and our sweat and has has defended Canada, Greenland, all and a lot of other places, Europe. Yeah. I knew a fellow when I was in school. I don't know if I mentioned this. And years ago, when I was in law school at the time, I met him. He was at the university there and he was from The Netherlands.
And he had been a member of the Dutch Navy. The Dutch, but, and, but the Dutchman doesn't have an army. I said, why don't you guys have an army? He said, well, why would we want an army? America's here to protect us. Why would we spend our money when America will spend theirs? That's exactly what he told me. And, I found out that that was common thinking in Europe. Of course. Well it's over. It's at some point that has to be over. That's done. And no, it's done now.
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And as for Canada,
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we'll take Edmonton. They can keep everything else. Well, yeah, there are a lot of people up there that, you know, I tell people that Canada was part of The United States at one time for about thirty, thirty glorious days. Yeah. And, during our war for separation from Britain and, what was that fellow's name? I get mixed up all these different personalities. I remember the story, but he was from New England up in there and he went up to, up to Canada. What was it? Montreal? No, well maybe it was, but the British Garrison there, one of the, the Fort that was the controlling Fort up there. Uh-huh, on the, on the water? Yeah. On the water.
And he, nobody expected that they could get across the snow. They, you know, they were, they used ice skates back then, by the way, to get around. And they had, because men had ice skates. I'll be darned. They'd skate up and down the rivers and then they had snow shoes and all sorts of things. They got there and they just walked into the fort because the gates were open. Nobody expected anybody to show up that was hostile and they banged on the commanding officer's door at night and he heard a voice inside. Said said, who is it? And he told him his name. What do you want? He said, I demand your immediate and unconditional surrender.
He said, what? By who? In, in whose authority? He said, in the authority of God and the, and the Congress of the United States and they took the fort course didn't last long. But in taking that, they took all of Canada and taking that, took all of Canada, but of course the British army showed up before long and took it back and they were more powerful at that time and able to do that up there.
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But I meant to say Alberta. Yeah. I said Alberta.
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Well, Edmonton. Edmonton is in British Columbia probably, isn't it? No. It's in Alberta.
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And the reason is because of their tar sands up there. And I heard a Canadian guy talking about it yesterday and proposing to Trump because there's a lot of adversity going on now between us. He said, why don't you come up here and make a deal and give them a certain amount of money? There's enough oil in those tar sands to run us for fifty years.
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Probably more than that. He just doesn't know. Who knows? 55,000,000,000
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barrels or some ungodly amount.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
Who knows? Yeah, I agree. You know, you think about all the gold taken out of California, and most of it was taken out of the streams and river beds and off the sides of the Hills. Yep. All that gold came from someplace. It's all alluvial deposits. So It's all plaster. It had to come from loads and there was some tapping into the loads, but not very much. That's surprising. Well, those loads are still there and that's still underground. And how could we possibly know where it is? But if we ever hit it again,
[01:50:57] Unknown:
pardon that? Pardon that? Well, they've got this, these satellites that can see, I don't know how deep underground they've mapped the whole world for all the minerals.
[01:51:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they think, I think that they had, can they're learning more, but again, we're learning how to do that. They don't the the biggest mine in the Sierra Nevadas became the what they call the Empire Mine, Grand Mesa Valley. And that's where Herbert Hoover used to work, by the way. Oh, okay. 300 and he was a geologist in the mine. Yeah. Right. It was 30350 about 350 miles of tunnels underground. And that mine shut down in 1956 because of the well, the price of gold because the government got involved and fixed the price of gold at $32.50 an ounce. Mhmm. That was Roosevelt.
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See? Yeah. So because the price He upped it from 20. Before him, it had been 20. He upped it up to 35. They gave themselves a raise 78% or something after they stole it.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's what happened. Well, that was fixed until Nixon.
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Yeah. Seventy one, August fifteenth.
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And the production of gold then began again, but the empire mind had been been shut down and then it flooded within a month. It's been flooded ever since with that thing. And that was just one example. But there were few deep really, massive deep mines of, in the Sierra Nevadas. People are just picking it up off the ground and getting it out of the streams. And so we have Biggest
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nugget ever found. I saw a thing on video, but a guy out there found it with a Geiger counter. I mean, a, a metal detector.
[01:52:36] Unknown:
Oh, we haven't even begun. We haven't even scratched the surface of recoverable gold. And of course, the nice thing about gold, unlike oil, once you find gold, seldom seldom is anybody ever going to get rid of it. And all the gold that's ever been mined in the history of mankind, we, as a practical matter, we still have all of it. Correct.
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Yeah. And it's only as much as big as an Olympic size swimming pool.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
Yeah. It doesn't take much. I mean, you've got an, an ounce coin of gold, an ounce, about the size of a silver dollar. It's almost worth $3,000 now.
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Well, I think I think Trump's gonna revalue gold and try and use that to pop up because they're saying that we still may go bankrupt even with all this stuff they're doing in two years. So that's all the drastic moves and measures that are being taken. Did you hear this as a result of the Social Security dodge deal?
[01:53:30] Unknown:
What was that? Well, no. What was it?
[01:53:33] Unknown:
There there I hesitate to say this because I almost don't believe it myself. Yeah. Over 20,000,000 people over the age of 100 accepting Social Security. One, all 308 years old.
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There. You're just saying they're old.
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That's not true. There are checks going out and has been to more than 20,000,000 people that are over a hundred years old, all the way up to one who's three zero eight.
[01:54:01] Unknown:
They're dead. Well, I don't, I don't doubt that Roger. That doesn't surprise me. Does it you? Well, yeah, kinda,
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kinda. 20,000,000. They're bitching and complaining about social security and their oversight is that lax?
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Hey, Rod.
[01:54:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Somebody else say yes. Paul's saying something. I think Joan wanted to add something. Yeah. Paul.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
To be fair to be fair, the heading on that post said that an analysis of the Social Security database shows the following demographics with the deceased flag set to false. So basically what that could be saying is there's 396,000,000 total people in their database that are that they think are still alive, all the way up to three zero nine. It doesn't specifically say they're getting checks. It just says the Social Security thinks they're alive.
[01:55:11] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I I don't know about all that, but I'll take your explanation. Joan, what did you wanna add, dear?
[01:55:19] Unknown:
I just said they're dead. Those people that are over 300 years old that are made Do you think? Social Security.
[01:55:25] Unknown:
Yeah. You think they're dead, Yeah. Well, probably. Now the other thing that he did, Brent, I'll bet you don't know about this, is Trump went in yesterday morning and fired all the rest of the Biden US attorneys that did not quit so far. So all of the Biden appointed attorneys are out of the justice department. I think there's only 12 left or something. And then the most significant thing is gonna be interesting. He had all the agencies cut off any payments to my illegal migrants. So now the co the collection and deportation has kinda slowed down. You know, there's some leaks in the FBI. By the way, Kash Patel got confirmed. There's some leaks in the FBI that are tipping them off when Homan and his guys are coming. And so they've kinda set back a little bit. They're trying to find the leaks and have promised those people will be prosecuted and jailed. They're doing that.
Strong fist. And, but yesterday, he cut off all those payments. Now the migrants that are here that have been getting that 2,000 plus a month, Well, now they're gonna have to start resorting to crimes, and he can pick them up easily. So there's a there's a lot of things building. Yeah. Joe, go ahead.
[01:56:41] Unknown:
Oh, George. Idaho. Howdy. Oh, George. Pax Americana. Yeah. Pax Americana, Pax Romana. Sounds familiar. Was there more usury? Just a historical, question. More usury before or after the reformation?
[01:57:00] Unknown:
That I think that's to you, Brent. I don't know the answer to that one. More or less usury
[01:57:06] Unknown:
before or after the reformation. Oh, after the reformation. No no no doubt. Did you say your name is Joe?
[01:57:14] Unknown:
George. No. I thought it was Joe, but it's George. He's out in, Idaho.
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Are you in, Kalispell, George?
[01:57:21] Unknown:
No. I think he's in in
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Alright. George, do you have, monthly meetings up there? Are you the head of a group that meets monthly up there?
[01:57:34] Unknown:
No. No. I'm in Idaho. I'm in The Panhandle.
[01:57:39] Unknown:
Yeah. But I've heard of the group that meets monthly up in Kalispell.
[01:57:43] Unknown:
No. That that's Gary. That's Gary. They meet every week. Gary's been in the hospital. He had a relapse or whatever his problem was. Oh. Alright. Hold hold on. Let me catch this phone, please. Yeah. Hold on.
[01:58:01] Unknown:
Sounds like that's Gary.
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Is that Gary?
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Gary. Is that you?
[01:58:07] Unknown:
Yes. It's Gary.
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Oh, Gary. Well, Gary Good to hear you, man.
[01:58:14] Unknown:
Yeah, Gary. So do you know the phone that just called in?
[01:58:20] Unknown:
No. But I've suspended our Monday night meetings, and it was every Monday night, Brett. It wasn't once a month. It was every Monday night. Oh, nice. Pretty good attendance. But until I get over some of these medical issues I'm dealing with, I've just decided to suspend those meetings for a while because I need to focus on my health.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Are you at liberty to give us an update on your health?
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Well, yeah. I'm sitting in the hospital right now waiting on the doctor to release and get out of the hospital.
[01:58:56] Unknown:
So you're looking forward to going home, though. It's gonna happen, you think? That's what Yeah. They wanna know you're going home. You're not gonna be there forever.
[01:59:04] Unknown:
No. I don't think so. But my problem is the doctors can't figure out what's really going on. They can't figure out what's going on with my blood pressure, which is astronomically high, And then I'm having pancreas attacks, pancreatitis attacks, which I wish that on nobody. They're horrible.
[01:59:24] Unknown:
They're painful. A discomfort?
[01:59:27] Unknown:
Very painful.
[01:59:30] Unknown:
Gary. Well, Gary. Gary. Yeah. Gary. Gary, do you know about do you know the pancreas? Part of what the pancreas does is digestion and that hydrochloric acid and pepsin is important for digestion. Right, Samuel?
[01:59:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm aware of it. We're trying to address everything.
[01:59:56] Unknown:
Good to hear your voice, buddy. I didn't know you were on there. It's great to hear you. So you're doing better?
[02:00:03] Unknown:
Well, hopefully, I'll get to go home today.
[02:00:06] Unknown:
I guess that's doing better. For you. We'll say a prayer for you, buddy.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Everybody at our call pray for you.
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I'd appreciate it. Gary?
[02:00:15] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
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Can I pray right now?
[02:00:19] Unknown:
Well, you can. I'd appreciate it.
[02:00:22] Unknown:
Let's do it. Father, we know you're the great healer. We come to you as your sons and daughters in humility, confessing who we are before you. We come with our hat in our hand, acknowledge the sacrifice that you have made for our redemption. And we ask humbly that you would heal Gary. We ask that you would please give wisdom to those that are trying to understand the problem. We know you can, and we acknowledge you can do anything you wanna do. And we acknowledge also that we believe it, that you can do what you want, and you can do this. And we ask these things in inclusive authority of our lord Jesus Christ, your son, and for his sake and for his glory to heal our brother Gary.
Amen.
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Amen. And you caught the end of the show within three seconds. Alright. Good job, Brent. Good.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
Well, great to hear you, Gary. I've been asking about you, and I'm it's just wonderful to hear your voice and your in our thoughts and prayers. I appreciate all the prayers. I wish they could they could find out what's wrong with me.
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But all they've got is circular arguments. This is causing this, and this is causing this, and and it's just a circular argument.
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So anyway Well, we maybe better better pray for them to find a cause.
[02:02:11] Unknown:
Hello? We just appreciate Paul and Gary. We wanna know. We're here next week, and if you'll move to call in, please do so. Yeah.
[02:02:21] Unknown:
Somebody was trying to say something right there, inject something? This is Chris Chris from Cali. I've been listening to the program. And I've had some questions from Brent but I didn't didn't interrupt because, you know, he was on a roll and that was good. Now regarding this health problem, you know, like my daughter is studying at UCLA and she'll be graduating next year as a nutritionist and she wants to privately help people in situations like yours but we, our whole family, we don't go to doctors at all. We have health practitioners who are holistic that we go to and nutritionists that we go to.
And maybe you could find somebody up in your area who could help you in a different way from the American Medical Association, union and and get some real truth about your situation. And, I would recommend you look in that direction, and get away from your doctors and see what help is available.
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Believe me, we already have. But, Yeah. But when you have a pancreatitis attack, you have to go to the medical system because Yeah. The naturopath is won't do anything about it, can't do anything.
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Yeah. So in the more accurate.
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The pain of that is so intense. I I just can't relate how intense it is when it's I'm so sorry, man. I'm so sorry. Well,
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we'll keep
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Yeah. He keep praying they find the cause for you, Gary. And let's hope you get out today too.
[02:04:06] Unknown:
Now, Brent, I hear is about trust trust for trust for you. Do you have a little bit of time left today, or should we take that up, at a different time?
[02:04:18] Unknown:
The was that addressed to me? I I think it was. I don't Chris, I can't hang around today, but Brent may can. I got a full afternoon, a dental implant, try and get my computer back and all kinds of stuff. So and eat lunch in there too. So,
[02:04:34] Unknown:
I'm not gonna hang around very much. Brent, what were you gonna say? Yeah. I'm I'm I'll be here a little bit of you. He's gonna ask a question. I'm curious
[02:04:42] Unknown:
to know what is on his mind. I think he wanted to ask about something about trust, but I'm gonna let you guys with it and everybody else. I'll see you tomorrow. And Brent, as always, thank you very much. Okay?
[02:04:51] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
Alright, buddy. Ciao ciao. Be safe. Okay. Bye bye.
[02:04:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, soon, Gary.
[02:05:04] Unknown:
Okay, Brent. What do I have a few questions? Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Trust. First of all, I would like to clearly know what's the difference between a common law trust and a statutory trust regarding irrevocable trusts?
[02:05:21] Unknown:
Well, if the legislature wants to pass a statute to add some other element to the possibility of a trust, they can do that. And when they do that, then that becomes something the courts will probably enforce. But all trusts are common law trust, whether statutory or otherwise, or no other kind. The trust does not exist except in common law countries. And there's only about five major common law countries in the world. The Roman world, the law of the city world, all the rest of the world, Germany, Switzerland, all South America, Vietnam, all the communist countries, don't recognize the trust because the code of Justinian, the canon civil laws of Rome, don't recognize it. It's something that developed in our common law tradition back before we even know when it did. It's again, it's lost in the fog of antiquity, and it was called different things down through the centuries.
But it's part of our common law tradition. If the statute says, well, we've passed a statute that says a trust can last in perpetuity forever. We're doing away. A lot of States have done away with what we call a common law, the rule against perpetuities, which means you can control your property by the dead hand from the grave for only so long. And so trust in our common law tradition have always been limited to lives in being plus twenty one years. That's a complicated formula, but that's the way it said. But there's a limit. Put it this way for now, just for general consumption. There's a limit to how long a trust can last unless the legislature said otherwise.
The legislature has said otherwise in a few states, or they've modified the rule against perpetuities, and they call it a dynasty trust. Well, that's still a common law trust, but it relies on a statute. See, there's just confusion of terms of what is our common law. And you don't have a strong handle on that. None of this makes any sense. Now people say, and and lawyers are taught this and lawyers will tell you this. They're taught at law school. Common law is, common law is, not statutory law. Statutory law is not common law. That's not true either. A legislature that passes a statute can do so to perpetrate common law principles.
They've done that. For example, the the statute of habeas corpus passed by car parliament. That's intended. It was intended, and it's in every state of our union except maybe Louisiana. I don't have to look. It's a, Louisiana is a Roman law jurisdiction like Quebec. Because the French speaking people down there originally, where, and up in Quebec still are, the Roman religion controls those, that province and that state, and they're comfortable with a powerful government, and no jury, and all that kind of stuff. And they don't have that stuff like we do in the rest of the country. Well, by the way, that's the reason we went to war with Britain.
The Quebec Act moved the law of the city from North of the Great Lakes, expanded the province of Quebec down to the Ohio River. And that's why Patrick Henry commissioned a military force to go take it back, because the Roman law, they wanted the Roman law to apply to all those places. That's what legislatures will do for you. I'm just making a point. Common law principles govern the trust because all trusts, if they're truly a trust, used to be called uses. We didn't call them trust in the English speaking world. They were called uses, u s e s. That's the was the popular name for them, but they only exist in the common law tradition. And the thing that separates the trust from well, let me just say that. Let me say this.
Wyoming, Alaska, few other states have passed legislation concerning the trust. Different kind of things. If you go to those states, the courts will enforce that legislation. For example, in some states, they pass statutes. I've read. I just know what I read. Let's say that you can form a trust for your pet dog when he dies or your form of trust for your pet. Ridiculous stuff like that. Senseless, meaningless. But if the legislature says it, well, some states have passed, statutes saying a trust does not have to have a known beneficiary. Well, that's a statutory thing. I wouldn't trust it. I don't know what the courts are gonna do with it. The thing about statutes is unless, statutes passed concerning trust, the next question in our common law tradition, because of separation of powers, coequal separate branches of government, are the courts going to uphold the legislation?
Are they going to modify it? Are they going to just declare it unconstitutional? You don't know. But that's the strength of our common law tradition. And they just make those points to say, a statutory trust, a trust that relies on a statute can be a good thing. In most cases, I wouldn't want it myself because whatever the legislature has the power to put in place, the legislature has the power to remove. And our common law tradition has been more resilient, more, more lasting by court decision than it has by statute. And so I would rather, if I could, I just form a trust under, under authority of our judicial tradition and the all the cases that have been handed down.
It's a creature. The trust is a creature of our courts. It's not a creature of the legislature fundamentally. It exists. It's even it's possible. A trust is possible because our courts have recognized this arrangement that has come into litigation over several hundred years. Something that innovative people said they wanted to do and they did. Namely what? Well, they wanted to avoid taxation in England, for example. They didn't want their land to be taxed. They didn't want to be taxed personally. So they transferred ownership to somebody else under a duty to give them the profits. Let me give you an example just for fun. I've used this example a lot. I was in the mining business and my partner in the mining business was the same age as my dad.
And he lived in, Center Kansas at an undisclosed place. I won't say, but it was out in the middle of nowhere. He was a wheat farmer, and they grew up there. And on the border of Oklahoma, I'll say that. He he lived in Burlington, Oklahoma growing up, and then he lived over in Kansas. And he he went to World War two and was in Italy. And, when he got back from the war, his father had a little money. They had land, and he purchased a gas station in this little tiny town of about 1,100 people, 1,200 maybe the most. And he stayed pretty busy and he had a living and he was unmarried. He was a young fellow. He went when he was 18 to war and got back two years later, a couple of years later at this gas station.
He'd get up early in the morning, he'd be there when people pumping gas before people went to work. He stayed there late at night, left everybody, went to the ball games and did all the goofing around they did. And he'd be changing oil and whatnot. And there was this loafer in this little town, like all little towns that would sit on the bench in front of his gas station back in the late forties and, shoot a backhoe and just talk to people. He was an old man. This is the story he told me. And, he said one time he was at the cash register and this old man got up off the bench and walked in and said, Dale, I want you to do me a favor. He said, what is it? What is it? And everybody in town knew this loafer, didn't really know where it came from. Just used a familiar face around town, an old man. He said, I got $800 cash here.
I wanna give it to you. And I want you to no matter what happens to me, I'm getting awful old. I don't know what's gonna happen, but he said, I want you to take this $800 and do what you gotta do to make my life comfortable in case something happens. But in the meantime, if something doesn't happen, I want you to make sure I have enough for a little bit of groceries and chewing tobacco and all that kind of stuff. And Dale, just a young fella, he said, okay. I'll put it here in the register and be safe and I'll dole it out. He said, thank you.
And come to find out, he asked him, of course, dollars 800 back in the late forties would be like $8,000 or more today. It was quite a chunk of money. Maybe more, maybe double that. I don't know. A lot of money. And he said, where'd you get this all this money? Because he'd never seen him work. He grew up there as a kid and never saw the guy work. He said, well, he said, I came up this town in Kansas to the railhead on a cattle drive when I was 17 years old.
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And we got paid and we did what all
[02:14:49] Unknown:
people like that do, get a paycheck in their pocket. We went and got drunk like crazy boys that we were. We got to looking around and everybody hated bankers. There was a little bank in town, about three towns down the railroad or another railroad railhead down here. You know, the railheads go from Kansas and the East Of Kansas clear to Dodge City. All along that line are towns that used to be the railheads where they drive the cattle up from the South. He said, we saw that bank and we decided we'd rob it. And then we went in and robbed the bank and half a dozen of us hightailed out of town, my boys.
We came to the next little town along the rail line. We decided we'd rob that bank, but we noticed that six boys rode out and five or six boys, robbed the bank and five boys rode out of the town, and we robbed that bank. Seemed like the reasonable thing to do. We were having fun. And we robbed that bank, and, five boys robbed the bank and four boys rode out the town that time. And he said, we finally decided the odds were against us. And so we rode off onto the prairie and hid and divided up money, and this is my part, what I got left of it.
I cashed in the bank over the years. And I don't know whether it had gold or cash or what they robbed, but he said that's the end of it. Now if that were lawfully gotten money, it wasn't, but put that aside for the hypothetical that I'm trying to draw here. When he gave that money to Dale, was that a common law trust? And the answer is, the answer is yes, if he certainly, he certainly entrusted the money to him. But it's only a common law trust if he transferred ownership title to Dale. If you transfer ownership title in trust, that means legal title to a trustee and beneficial title to a beneficiary, ownership title to a trustee, you got a common law trust.
If you name the beneficiary and the property is clearly ascertainable, you got a trust. But that's what it depends upon, and that's what sets the trust apart from all other legal arrangements like a corporation. When you form a corporation, the president of the corporation and the shareholders do not own the property that the corporation owns. They own the, the, the shareholders own the right to profits, but they don't own the corporate property. When somebody sets up a trust, the trustee owns the corporate property. He holds legal title to it. He doesn't hold beneficial title always, but legal title ownership. And therein, that one fact explains the power and the distinctiveness of the trust arrangement. The trust arrangement is not a corporation.
It's not a separate person in contemplation of law that owns anything. No, it's the trustee. The trustee owns the entrusted property. Under a duty to do with it, what the trust document or what the settler of the trust has told him to do. That's why trust documents are important. That's the limitation and the commands to the trustee. But just understand, he owns the property. That's the grand distinction. And out of that flow all the benefits of a trust. And then then we can go into that. Now, if you're interested in these kinds of questions, again, go to commonlawyer.com and take there's two courses there. I think at least two at the law school there, Winters Inn, on the common law trust.
And may give you more of a feel for how the trust works and what it is. It's a mystery to most people, including judges and lawyers, because if you don't deal in it, you don't know anything about it. And most of them don't. It's not, doesn't mean they're stupid. I mean, everybody knows a little bit about this or that, whatever they can make money doing, they know about. Most lawyers don't make money in the arena of trust. So they know very little about it. But if you get involved with them and you begin to get a feel for them and, and so don't, don't think most people, most people don't know anything about trust either.
It's a mystery. But what I try to do in these courses and explain it in simplicity and just keep talking about it and hope it comes through to people, the fundamentals of trust and what they are. And because trust are unique to our common law tradition, they're also unique to our preservation of wealth and our common law countries and have served that purpose in a powerful way, by the way.
[02:19:38] Unknown:
And if No. Can you go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. I understood. I've actually I've I've written many trusts. I use trusts a lot. And, but I've come across some information recently that caused me to go back and look at this situation. And I'm going to take your course by the way. I think that's a great idea. Now the idea of an alter ego, being an attack against a trust or a trustee. What does that involve and how can an alter ego challenge be prevented?
[02:20:19] Unknown:
Well, a trust, it have it, often it is said it's a sham if it's an alter ego to do an illegal act. That's the danger. And so you don't ever wanna set up a trust for the primary purpose or any purpose of an illegal act. No contract is enforceable. No promise. And the if a trust falls under the law of promises, although it is not a a banal contract, it's a fiduciary relationship, it only has one promise at bottom. And that's the promise of the settler that settles the trust. But that promise is enforceable under a fiduciary duty, by the way, is very dangerous in this sense. If you're a trustee, breach of fiduciary duty can be a crime. It's a private it's we we our common law holds it in such high esteem. It's the highest duty known under the law of promises.
The highest duty known in our common law tradition is to be trustee of a trust. And most trustees don't have a clue about that. A lot of them have gone to jail. We had a judge at home. I used to put up pay for the family. And he was a judge in a little county there. People had a grocery store in the family for years, an IGA store. And they made him trustee of the money, several hundred thousand dollars they had compiled over the years. And he took $300,000 of that money, loaned it to his brother who needed a loan. They were all in the horse training business. It was a thoroughbred farm, loaned him $300.
Well, somehow that came out, paid it back, and, this a judge now sitting on the bench. He went to prison for six months, lost his judgeship, lost his law license, retained his judge's, retirement because he did a plea deal and got away with that. And when I hit I went to school with this guy's mother. I knew the family well. Put up pay for his brother when in the summertime when I was a teenage boy because they put up a lot of pay because they were boarding race horses. But I know another lawyer in a neighboring town, a neighboring town.
And, he went to jail for two years. He was trustee of a trust. He borrowed something like 2 or $3,000 for less than twenty four hours, I think. He needed it, A money that was entrusted to him in a trust. He borrowed the money, paid it back with interest within a day or two. I forget exactly. It was very short time. A heavy interest. Somehow that was discovered. He went to jail for two years, lost his law license. Why? Because that's how he didn't even hurt the trust. It helps the trust. But he didn't understand the danger. He was a lawyer. He didn't understand really how trust worked.
A good guy too. Well respected in the community. He said to himself, well, shucks. If I make a trustee, if I make a profit, that's my duty as a trustee. This will all be okay. But it was for a personal purpose. It's against the law and it can be criminal to benefit from your position as a trustee with trust property. I don't care what it is. I was involved with the trust not long ago. I was trustee. And, one of the beneficiaries said, Look, I've got this equipment. I can sell it to you. I want to get rid of it. If you don't buy it, I'm going to sell it to somebody else. There wasn't a lot of equipment. It was some containers and stuff like that. And, they told me what they wanted for it. And they said, Do you want it? I said, Yeah, I'd like to have it. And then I thought of it. And I said, Wait a minute. I can't do this. Even if I pay them a time and a half, what it's worth.
That's a badge of self dealing. Because I'm the trustee of the trust. Well, if I'm the trustee of the trust, that means I own the property that the trust is trying to sell me. See, that doesn't work. I'm the owner of the property. How can I sell the prop how can I purchase the property? See, once you understand that the trustee is legal owner of the property, then everything flows out of that. So you're not allowed to benefit in any way, except you can get a trustee's fee, but technically and legally, that's not benefiting from the trust property. That's being paid for what you do. You're taking up the responsibility and the dangers of being trustees. Somebody might sue you. And you want take that real serious. It happens.
You bet it happens. I've had that happen too. And if you know how to handle it and know what the legal ramifications are of the trust and being a trustee, you can survive it. But if you don't, you may go to jail. And because, again, the trusteeship is held to the highest standard of all relationships in our common law tradition. Higher than the president of The United States. No small matter. That's the warning I give to people. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.
[02:25:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, if if the trust was created to hold an investment like a house, can the house remain vacant, not rent it out? If that's what the beneficiary No. I know the trustee
[02:25:44] Unknown:
well, it depends upon what the settler commands. The settler commands in the trust document what what he wants. By default rule, the courts have said that it is the trustee's duty to enhance the value of the entrusted property. In other words, make a profit with it, if you can't at all, unless you're commanded. Otherwise, if you're commanded and it's the best interest, if it's in the best economic interest of the beneficiaries, to just hold the property for a while, if you can clearly show that, well, sure. But that'd be questionable. I'd want it to be moving unless I had in writing that the settler does not want that.
I would get it in writing that he doesn't want you to fill it out.
[02:26:31] Unknown:
Some of the some of the houses were, acquired just for the purpose of riding the market up because everything was bought right after the crash of two thousand and eight and bought very cheaply. And now of course, everything's 10 times that price. Yeah. And so that was the initial reason for doing this and putting them all in separate trusts and with me as the trustee. Now I've also read some things about the payment of rent. Can a beneficiary stay in stay in the house without paying rent?
[02:27:13] Unknown:
Well, that and what's are you in Chicago, or where are you?
[02:27:17] Unknown:
No. California.
[02:27:19] Unknown:
Oh, well, that's California has strong trust law. I'd leave it on the Internet. You're a trustee. It's real easy to do research these days. Just type in simple questions. You'll get everything you want. I'd be I can't I don't wanna give you a direct I can just give you general principles. I don't wanna talk about I'm not a California lawyer, and it would be improper for me to give you advice about what goes on in California, but I can talk about general principles and how trust law applies all over. You start talking about specific fact patterns, it would be inappropriate for me to give you advice.
[02:27:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Excuse me, Ben.
[02:27:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I found these things. I think I'm cool.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
One one moment, guys. I just need to get in here for, like, one minute. I don't I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm Yeah. I'm on my way out the door, and I gotta get this done quickly. I got a delivery yesterday. I got a keyboard and a mouse from Amazon fulfillment. I have absolutely no idea where it came from, because my keyboard got dripped on by my leaky roof and it died. And I do so very, very much appreciate getting a keyboard and a mouse in the mail. I don't know who sent it, so thank you very much. And I will not open that box and put that in place until the drips have stopped because, with all the diligence that I expended trying to save my other keyboard from death, I I was unsuccessful in saving it. So I'm not even gonna put the new one in place until the drips are done and the hazard is over. So thank you very much. And now I gotta get, and you guys have a Paul?
[02:29:00] Unknown:
Paul? Yes. I I did hear Rick say that he was going to order you a mouse and keyboard. So I think it's from Rick.
[02:29:12] Unknown:
Just letting you know. Well, I asked him. I asked him about that last night, and he said that he was going to do it. He was, like, ready to click the buy it now button. But, I started talking about, like, a flexible waterproof keyboard, and he he said that, well well, now if you're gonna get fussy, forget it. So he didn't. So we still don't know who sent it. Whoever did, thank you. It was it was a gift from God, and I am very thankful. I appreciate it very much. So back to you guys.
[02:29:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And and Brent,
[02:29:47] Unknown:
this is Steven, and I have a question when you're done with the trust.
[02:29:52] Unknown:
I'm done. Like, I can't yeah. Go ahead. Alright. You're done. Well, oh, by the way, go to my website. Send me your send me your address so I can send you a bill.
[02:30:03] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
I'm kinda joking, but we always appreciate what we're doing. What's that?
[02:30:11] Unknown:
What what changes when the trustee is a national? You're like, I'm a national.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
And, Well, you've always been a national, haven't you?
[02:30:22] Unknown:
Pardon?
[02:30:24] Unknown:
You've always been a national. You grew up in America? Yes. You born here? Yes. You're a national. I hadn't changed this. Okay. Okay. You may have filed filed a piece of paper to put somebody on notice, but you've always been a national. That's what an American is.
[02:30:43] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:30:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So don't yep. We need to speak that way and not say, now I am a national that well, no. You always were. You're just declaring it.
[02:30:54] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah.
[02:30:57] Unknown:
Does somebody else have another comment? Yeah. Yeah. This is Steven. I and I have a question, not on the trust subject. So, if I have your permission, I will ask the question.
[02:31:09] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. What's it about?
[02:31:11] Unknown:
Well, I I I have to preface it with, my understanding of conspiracy involves more than one person. So if a person is convicted of conspiracy against The United States, was there or is there another person involved that was convicted and served time? And do you think if you, had sent an affidavit claiming you're you're to be and rebutting the presumption that you were just a US citizen and that you were actually a national, do you think that would help have helped in your case and not let you spend time in jail?
[02:31:52] Unknown:
No. People get convicted of conspiracy from other countries all day every day. Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, well, not Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and South Americans. And they're all part of the drug cartels. They try to go to those countries and arrest them and drag them up here. Noriega still sitting in federal prison. He wasn't American. That make a difference who you are, but if you're involved in a conspiracy, a conspiracy is easy to prove. It's the darling of the prosecutors. Like they used to say in Chicago when they really went after the mob in the eighties and Giuliani was involved in all that. They said, all we need to convict somebody of criminal conspiracy in New York is, two people whose names end in a vowel and a stool pigeon.
That's all you need in front of the jury. Because it's only got two elements, an agreement, an agreement to commit a crime. That's it. You could prove that there's a crime been committed and there was an agreement behind it. You got conspiracy. You don't even have to have had committed the crime, you see. Just a conspiracy itself without the crime ever ever having been committed. People say, oh, there's never a victim. There's never a there's no wrong. No. That's not true. That's never been true in our common law tradition. There are a lot of crimes that have been against the law and still are against the law that don't hurt anybody. Burglary is one of them. Burglary.
Burglary is the breaking and entering of the dwelling house of another with intent to commit larceny or a felony therein. Those are the elements of burglary. If you break into somebody's house with intent to commit larceny or felony therein and don't do anything, don't touch anything and walk out, and then you get caught, you're going to prison. No damage done to anybody. People were even on vacation. They were gone. That's burglary. Same thing is true of conspiracy. Conspiracy in every state and at the federal government level attaches to every crime that there's a law against. You could have the crime and then have conspiracy.
And in some states, when you are convicted of both, they will merge together into one crime. In other states, it becomes two it's still two separate crimes, or you can just have conspiracy or the crime itself. But if you're but conspiracy just requires and the two the conspirators don't even have to know the other people. For example, a couple of theories on conspiracy, but, feds and the prosecuting for drugs, they know there are people in Mexico that do one thing, people in America that are doing another, then all these people in between. And the truth is most of them don't know each other, but they do know that if I keep doing what I do, then the other field will keep fellow that I don't know. And Mexico keeps doing what he does. Then, I I continue to make money and that's all I care about. Well, see, that's a tacit agreement.
I keep doing what I do. He'll keep doing if I keep selling it on the street, he'll keep he'll keep making it. Well, they catch them all, but it let's just say they just catch one. They'll convict him of conspiracy but that's what they think they can get him on easiest. And they may not ever catch the other conspirator or co conspirator that's unnamed, unindicted, never caught, but you still just got one guy you convict him of conspiracy. You see how how this can magnify and get real big real quick. You say to somebody, well, you were involved, on January 6 and storming the Capitol, and they catch you.
They say that you're in conspiracy with 3,000, 10 thousand other people. There become no limit, see. And if anybody in another state had helped fund sending people to the Capitol, which I know happened a lot, probably millions of dollars were spent to to rent buses. I know the little town I was from. There were a busload of people went to Washington DC on January 6. And I know some of the people that funded that bus trip. They were business people in in our little community where I'm from. Well, if they if they wanted to, they go after them and said, well, they could say you're part of the conspiracy. You weren't there, but you funded it and you knew what would happen. See? That's how dangerous conspiracy is. But conspiracy has been around for a long time. It's against the law. Here it is again. It's against the law to enter an agreement that results in the doing of a crime.
I don't think any necessarily much crime done there. I don't think there was that kind of agreement. I'm just using that as a hypothetical example.
[02:36:32] Unknown:
Right. So so my understanding is that you running for congress was the conspiracy and somebody asked you to run for congress. Did the coconspirator get charged with conspiracy?
[02:36:48] Unknown:
Well, it came down to a lot of things and came down to me practicing law. You know, that if the government didn't like a lawyer, they'll go after him for, under conspiracy because they'll say by the in defending his clients, he conspired with them to commit a crime. By being a defense this is the simplicity of it. By being a criminal defense attorney, you're shielding a man. And this is crazy, but this is what the kind of things they were saying. This was their under John Ashcroft, that was the John Ashcroft was attorney general of The United States. Assembly Of God Preacher's son. His father founded the Assembly God, big flagship Assembly God College in Springfield, Missouri called Evangel.
He sang in a gospel quartet, senator of The United States from Missouri. He, had Bible study in his office in the Senate Building. And then he said, any criminal defense lawyers in the federal courts that make less than $40,000 3 years straight and don't belong to a law firm, I want them indicted by a grand jury and imprisoned. That was his policy. Well, that's what that's what, religion will get for you if you have don't have a fundamental understanding of our common law. That guy was Attorney General of The United States, Governor of Missouri, Attorney General of Missouri, a graduate of the University of Chicago Law School. And he didn't know his butt from a $17 sunbonnet about the fundamentals of who we are as Americans.
But the assemblies of God don't either. I talk about Rome a lot. The assemblies of God have a government of one man, in most cases that I've seen. It's like all charismatic Pentecostal kind of churches. Here they are. The most important thing in the Bible is the kingdom of God, the government of God. And, they adopt a law of the city dictatorship for government of their church. Most churches, Baptist churches do that a lot. All the Assembly of God, television churches, Pentecostal churches do that. You go, been around a church like that, run for your life. Because Christianity is about the land and the government of God on the land being given to God's people.
And if you, if you show me, you show me the fundamental government of the dominant religion of a country, and I will show you the fundamental government of that country. And that's why all of South America is under some form of dictatorship. Why? Well, their religion demands it. They're that's what they want in their heart of hearts. That's what they're used to, and that's what they're gonna have with government of their country. Why do we have a common law government? Because in our heart of hearts and fundamentally, and this is what we're talking about in what we call Christian nationalism, not by law, it just happened. We don't have any laws say that we're Protestant. And when I say Protestant, I mean in the historic sense. You got to go back far to understand the mindset and the trajectory that those that founded our nation put us in. And we're still on that trajectory whether we like it or not. It's, it's Protestantism.
And that means that the Bible's front and center, not some religious priesthood. And that means that, we don't have idols. We don't have trinkets and Jesus junk in our churches. We worship the God who is unseen right now. But we have the Bible that becomes front and center. That's the law of nature's God. That's the second volume as Blackstone says, revealed religion written in our Bible. We have that, and that's front and center. And our government of our churches is to be a plurality of elders. I have deep convictions about this. You wanna be something other than say, I'm a Christian person and you're going to a Pentecostal church. They don't have a clue what the kingdom of God is. I don't care what else they say. They may be Christian. I don't know, but they're part of the problem. John Ashcroft and his family and his religious group are part of the problem because they promote in men's hearts of hearts dictatorship for government Government by a single will. No separation of three separate powers.
No eldership. What's an eldership? That's the gray bearded men that keep the executive branch in check. By their advice and consent, the executive branch, the president, the King, whatever you call him, he can do something. Well, if you're in a church like that, I suggest you get out. You become part of the problem. Because again, coming back to the fundamental, show me the dominant government or the government of the dominant religious institutions of a country. And I will show you the government of that country. And that's why in America, our dominant religious institutions were a plurality of elders and juries in our churches. Go back to the period. We're talking about that in our class, the, the Scotch Irish Puritans, the English Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and the Dutch and German reform groups understood the necessity of a plurality of elders.
Not in other words, not the government by a single will. And if there's an executive power given, so a man to execute, well he's there to execute what the plurality of elders say. That's what our Congress is theoretically anyway. And if he doesn't think it's constitutional, he shouldn't do it. And then you have courts to also over here, separate and co equal, the legislature, the plurality of elders says, here's the policy. Here's what we need to do. We call that legislation. And if the other two branches want to uphold it, they do. If they, if they don't think it's lawful, they don't. That's our common law tradition. That's the government that those three groups I talked about that we don't hear much about them anymore because they've gone they faded away and lost their grip.
Lost their grip, most of them. But that's that's who we are as a people. That's the trajectory we're on. That's the government we have, government we have. We still follow that. And if you aren't deeply involved in trying to learn more about it, then you're part of the problem. And you don't know it by nature, by the way. You know it by learning. The Bible commands it.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
Thank you, Brent. Thank you very much, Brent. I I really appreciate it. And, I just wanted to say that I tried to ask my questions as concisely as I could. So I just have one last question. I'm gonna have to take off, and I'll listen. Was there a coconspirator? Who was it? And did they spend time? Thank you very much for your time today, and you have a blessed day. Could you answer your question, though?
[02:43:34] Unknown:
No. I'm not at liberty to talk no. I'm not I don't feel liberty to talk about other people.
[02:43:40] Unknown:
But I appreciate it. You can't even say that there were coconspirators?
[02:43:46] Unknown:
No. No. I I won't, and I'll tell you why. It's bad policy to talk about other people. I can talk about myself. I won't talk about others. That's not I'd put it bluntly. That wouldn't be wouldn't be the Christian thing to do.
[02:44:00] Unknown:
I'm not asking for names. I'm just asking, was there a coconspirator? In conspiracies, there's usually one and more people. So I just need to confirm
[02:44:11] Unknown:
that there is one another. Wait. Wait. Wait. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. I know I did tell you the conspiracy requires two people or more. Didn't I? Did I? Well, whoever it was left. Well, if if there's no one else to try to or wants to ask a question or talk, I appreciate the questions. And all I can tell you is what I know and what I think is appropriate to say. And, I'm not the final word on anything. God's final word. And I Amen. Reckon I recommend you to the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. And join us on Sunday for church if you're of mine too. We're going through books of the Bible. We're teaching a course on Christian nationalism. We're trying to approach it from the way I've talked here, and I appreciate the question he asked because I do get to talk about conspiracy and the importance of it. You need to be, careful about it, and then you might when you're listening to all the recordings we have there, some of that might come across. Commonlawyer.com is for fun, more the business.
It's fun. I say fun, the fun of learning. Learning what's right and becoming part of the solution and not part of the problem. So I recommend that to you. You can listen to us on the radio seven days a week and, different outlets, and we have those posted there. We're We're going through books of the Bible. We're in the middle of the 10 Commandments on Sunday at In Church. And we're in the book of Jude, which talks about the unforgivable sin and what that means and how to avoid people that have committed it because they're doomed. You You don't want to be around them. That's what Jude's about.
And in all of this, we stress the laws of nature and the laws of nature is God. Well, thank you again for the questions and all the comments, and I'll check out because I'm tired of talking, but I appreciate the opportunity you've all given me and listened a little bit to what I've had to say.
[02:46:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you very much, Brent. It was very informative. I really enjoyed, especially what you went into about conspiracy. Now the man who was giving you a problem, he's been a problem with Roger and other people. I don't know who he is but he's been a problem. He's kind of a heckler So I would just ignore him.
[02:46:40] Unknown:
Oh, now so you're not the fellow that was just asking the questions about conspiracy. Is that right?
[02:46:47] Unknown:
No. This this is Chris from California, and I'm the one that initially started this conversation about trust.
[02:46:54] Unknown:
Oh, okay. But what happened to the other fellow that was asking the questions? I don't know. He disappeared. Oh. And that's good. Oh, okay. Well, that tells a story about him. It would have been friendly if he would have been. He's not being friendly. He's being rude doing that. If he's gonna ask questions, get free information what?
[02:47:17] Unknown:
He's a troublemaker.
[02:47:19] Unknown:
Oh, I'm glad you told me. Oh, I don't know out there. Yeah.
[02:47:23] Unknown:
Yeah. They're looking for trouble. When you hear his voice, you'll you'll know what he's after just to cause trouble.
[02:47:29] Unknown:
Oh, and well I gotta I gotta speak up. I gotta speak up. I don't, it sounded like sketch. And if it was sketch, he's normally pretty even keel. So, you know, I don't know what's going on. You know? You never know what's going on in someone's heart and mind. So if it was sketch, it's usually pretty even even an even kind of guy. So maybe give him a break.
[02:47:53] Unknown:
Roger had a real problem with him, you know, a couple days ago.
[02:47:58] Unknown:
Yeah. If you could overlook it because I understand understand. Just get just overlook it. You don't know what's going on with his personal life. So, he he's usually he's usually pretty even keel, you know, even you know, anyways, I yield.
[02:48:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, thank you. Listen more than talk and try and absorb the logic and the truth that's being presented.
[02:48:25] Unknown:
Well, I hear
[02:48:28] Unknown:
you. Yeah. Well, we're scheduled for you, by the way.
[02:48:34] Unknown:
West Coast, summers, either Washington or Oregon, I think. I think. Oh.
[02:48:41] Unknown:
Oh, I see. Well, you know, just to be in to know people for years and talk to them. You know, if you think you know people and then you don't after many years, that's happened to me more times than I could count. But to be on the Internet and talk to all you folks, I don't know who you are. I don't know what you look like. So that's why we demand, and I think it's a good idea, and I insist on it. And you're very polite people. Demand politeness and decency because there's no other way we could have any meaningful meaningful, happenings here without extreme politeness. We have to show overt politeness. I try to do that, but, you know, some of you have been here a long time. You know that sometimes I have to get pretty loud to try to maintain a little order.
And I, the rule is, Roger and I have talked about this a lot, and I've said it on the air. When I'm talking or Roger's talking, everybody else has to be quiet. And experience has showed me it's not that I'm more important or Roger's more important than anybody else or knows more than anybody else. Obviously, everybody knows what they know, and that's can be valuable. But, there is no other way to run a discussion without doing it like that. There has to be somebody that's holding the reins of what happens and what doesn't. And if there isn't, then chaos will ensue. And we appreciate you understanding that.
Again, it's not us wanting to overcome other people. It's just there can be no no no profit without order. Well, thank you very much again for all of you.
[02:50:15] Unknown:
One moment. Brett, so, Sketch did bring up another time at another time brought up he was asking about, smallest state and, capital state and, lowercase state. And what was the question, related to national? And I forgot oh, I I forgot the question. Oh, well, that's okay.
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I I yield. I I forgot the question. Oh, wait a minute. Don't go away. Don't go away. Okay. Yeah. Now you're you're in Texas. Is that right?
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Mhmm. Yes, sir.
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Now you may have told me and if you're not at liberty to say this, I won't press you, but are you at liberty to say where you are in Texas?
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The Greater Houston area.
[02:51:04] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Are you from there?
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Yes. Uh-huh.
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I see. Well, just to make a point on that subject about lowercase letters, that's a red herring. That means it's a it's a distraction to get decent people away from the truth. I've been in court with that problem. I've tried to defend people that have used it. Courts don't have any clue about any of it. I don't see any reason for it. Matter of fact, I know in the seventh federal circuit, they put out a message to all the lawyers that practice in that circuit to quit using capital letters. It's a habit that grew out of typewriters when there are only two options, capital and lowercase. And the court started doing it for some reason. Then we when we got away from typewriters in the last decade or two, now we're we've got a lot of other options.
Capital letters, all capital letters, all studies have shown are harder to read than lowercase letters, and the comprehension goes way down when you use them. We have statutes that say use all capital letters for powers of attorney. Certain things that have to be said. It just makes it hard to read, and everybody knows that, and we're trying to get away from them. The Bible itself uses capital letters for the name of God. Well, they don't do it for the name of God, for what the rabbis said ought to be said, the Lord. All the older translations are that way. There early manuscripts of the Bible used all capital letters for the whole Bible because they said it's more important than any other book. So it's all capital letters. But once they did that, it became very hard to read all as they say, used to say in the eighth and ninth century. And we still do that today because we want to stress something or want to emphasize something.
But no, don't think that any judge has a clue what you're talking about. He doesn't. Lawyers don't either. So you're wasting your time. I know people that have paid tens of thousands of dollars to people to write up pleadings with capital letters and the so called secret meanings of those letters. That's all Kabbalistic, Judaization. It doesn't mean nothing. It'll get you off, waste your money, and get you sent to prison in some cases. I've watched it happen. I've gone in and defended people that have done that and tried to get rid of it and told the judge, forget that judge. Here's the pleading. You can read this, can't you? Okay. Let's move forward and forget all that. And, so I say it's a habit in mankind since the earliest stages as I've pointed out about the Bible. We still struggle with it. Just get away from it. That's what I'd say to do. There's no significance to it that amounts to anything. Thank you very much again. Appreciate y'all, and, we'll be thinking particularly of Gary.
That bothers me that he's struggling the way he is. And, I sincerely sincerely want to pray for his healing. I appreciate all of you, and you're all like him. You're of the same mind. Most all of you, I imagine, except a few hecklers. And, I pray for all of you for the protection, from physical harm, spiritual evil, and most of all, false doctrine. That's what's destroying us. Alright. Thanks again. Well, lord willing, talk next week. Have
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a good few I'll see you at end church.
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Say again?
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I'll see you at end church.
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Oh, good. Yeah. We look forward to it. Yeah. You can get in the chat and talk while I'm talking.
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Okay.
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Alright. Thank you. Yeah. Adios.
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Well, we missed our chance at the term null teal.
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Remind me what it is, Brent.
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That pleading, that they say, well, it's not a plea, and it is. We talked about it last, Friday and Saturday.
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Yeah. What remind me what it mean.
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It means, what is it? No record. Julie brought it up. And it just popped in my mind as Brent was about to leave.
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Oh, damn.
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So I didn't wanna, you know, hold him up.
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That was Stets talking to Brent about, conspiracy. Right?
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Yep.
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Okay.
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I think oh, anyways. I'll leave it alone.
[02:56:06] Unknown:
Well, I'll speak up and thank you for at least saying that there I am usually a very calm and cool collective, and I I just interrupted him because I asked the concise question. Were there coconspirators, and did they spend time? Did you get the answer for that question? I sure didn't. You know? So that's the only reason I was interrupting him at the end because he would he wasn't gonna answer that there was a conspire co conspirator that asked him to run for congress and did that person spend time in jail also? That's all that's I tried to ask my questions very concisely and very calmly and I kind of understood that he wasn't gonna answer that. I wouldn't ask him for names. And I wanna address Chris.
Chris, I'm a sorry if I offended you with my questions today or with Roger on the after show. I was just trying to get one question from Roger and that was why he associated me with Anna Vaughn wrong in one sentence. So I was trying to get context from Roger why he associated me with Anavon wrong. That's the only reason, and there was a lack of communication on, my part and Roger's part. And I don't know, Chris, if you don't know this, but I apologized and told Roger I was sorry for my indiscretion. I hope you can forgive me too. I yield.
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Yeah. I thought it was pretty amazing. Post reformation, the amount of usury increased in post 1965. The amount of, PORN went ballistic, namely due to the same church that was Jewified there. But Martin Luther even said he beware of the Jews. Right? And, just kinda curious as the amount of usury went up and the amount of usury use. That word came up, the trust use of the female body with regard to porn became very prevalent also as a result of decency, laws that were decency that the Catholic church used to have to make sure that bad stuff didn't get to the public.
And, of course, what do they bring out first? They bring out a holocaust movie with some topless and that was their excuse, you know, free speech and, you know, to always story. We got nudity in it. And let's bring up Martin Luther King, mentioned him in a movie, and we'll be able to put that out there too because because we've mentioned Martin Luther King, but we can have an orgy there. Pretty ironic. Are you?
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Hey, George. I'm the usury. I'm the usury. Why don't you call it what it is? Jewthery.
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Hey, George. Did you get your question answered from Brent? You know, I remember you asked a question. I think seems like you didn't get
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No. I got I but I'm glad that the Kalispell gentleman, Greg, was he he was confusing with Greg, I think, but I'm glad he got his, you know, got chance to get prayed for. So you.
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Okay.
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That was, Gary.
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Gary. Sorry. Not correct. He did answer. He said definitely there was more usury after, but, that was the that was the amount of discussion. But I'm I'm very curious as, like, I mean, like, how the I mean, I Pax Americana to me is the same as Pax Romana, and, and I think, there was I think you were richer and medieval. You know? What kind of I'm a medieval conservative. This liberal we don't even realize how liberal we are. And, Jonathan Mock, you know, I'd like praise him. He was a bankster on the other side of the pond. So yield.
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They're just saying he had a lock on things.
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He had a lock we're gonna put it in a lockbox. Remember that one? Plus, money out there finding and all that. I wonder if they're just redeeming everybody's, everybody's trust. Everybody use a fricked. And they're, basically saying, oh, we're giving it back to you when it's really good anyway. I yield. I'll let you know what happens when I send in my, gonna send in a mortgage statement payable to the, with the dollar stamp saying, accepted for honor and then, another stamp saying, paid to the US United States Treasury without recourse.
Let you know what they say. A yield.
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Okay. Good.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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So I've done some research on that SESPV trust, and the charitable public trust, and I'm not so sure we make it payable to the Treasury. I'm thinking perhaps the International Monetary Fund. My research shows that, a bond was taken out, and we are a debtor and a creditor. And we can pay our bills, but I'm just I'm not so sure who we make that payable to. I'm thinking maybe the International Monetary Fund. Anybody else know?
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Well, I think, the I think, ultimately, the treasury works for that. But there is well, it's interesting because there is a bill constitutional treasury. So I think paying to International Monetary Fund might be like dealing with the Federal Reserve, whereas the Treasury would be the prop to retire the debt. I think if you sent it to the monetary fund, you're not gonna retire the debt. And I who's speaking? Are you? Yeah. It's it's it's me, Julie. So what I had what I had read is that the actual
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our birth certificates were borrowed against. We were hypophecated, and they used the IMF to to for the loan against our birth certificate. On the left hand side is our, on the on the ledger on an accounting ledger where you have debits and credits that have to balance, on the left hand side is our vessel or our straw man. On the right hand side is our labor. And, they borrowed against our birth certificate and used our labor, but that we're still able to, use that Susswee KB Trust for paying bills. And it didn't mention one thing about the treasury in it at all. It just mentioned the Federal Reserve and the International Monetary Fund.
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And what was the source of that again?
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Driving right now, so I can't tell you. But it's, it's a bunch of stuff that I've read and watched, online.
[03:05:02] Unknown:
Well, Julie, it's Sherry. Yeah. Hi. Hi, Sherry. Hi. The Federal Reserve is under the Treasury Department. The Treasury Department is underneath the International Monetary Fund. But, We The People have nothing to do with the IMF.
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So who's under what? Say that again. The IMF is under who?
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No. The Federal Reserve is under the Treasury, and the Treasury is under the IMF. Right. So it's IMF treasury and then federal reserve. Right. But what ties would we have with the IMF?
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Well, we do have tie with them because they're the ones that made the loan against our birth certificate.
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No. The treasury has ties with the IMF, not We The People.
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See what I'm saying? Right. But I'm just yeah. I get that. But then but if the original original person who made the loan is the IMF, why wouldn't you make your bill you see, what we need to do is we need to Well, why would you wanna set
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I just don't know why you would suggest yourself to the IMF. Let the treasury handle that. Let them handshake together.
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I don't know. We're trying to figure out how to get our bills and our statement paid using our SESQUI KB Trust. And if that was originally set up by the IMF, all I'm saying is that why wouldn't we I'm trying to figure out who to pay or who to who to what we need to do is we need to take the statement we get in the mail or the bill we get in the mail and turn it turn it into a bill of exchange and use bill of exchange laws, which are the UCC laws, to get our those things paid from our SESU KB trust. So I'm my thing right now is I think I know how to endorse all these and everything. The question is, where do you mail them or where do you send them?
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To whom?
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Does that make sense? I think you send it to the CEO of the comp at least in cases of, like, bills, you send it to the CEO. You're not gonna send it to the bill collector. You know? They're just gonna Right. Right. Right. I don't think But then I think if I think if it says paid to the treasury, then I think then their accountancies and their I r if the IRS is the ultimate accountancy, they figured the c CEO, because the CFO, the whole c suite, they have, like, a fiduciary responsibility. So I think, you know, I haven't seen anything about pay to the IMF at all, but maybe you're maybe you're looking at something I'm looking at. But, you
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know I think that,
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I think that, the guy that, Doug Riddle that, Larry mentioned, those videos from him, I think that his he they used to pay their bills using the treasury, but that that amount that wasn't working anymore. Sorry. You're hearing a little bit of beeping because I'm backing up. I apologize. So I think it I think it was originally the treasury and then it stopped working. So I was trying to figure out if there was an alternative, person that could be that you would send this to. And so I was just thinking the IMF since that was the entity that made the loan originally.
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But if they were sending it, were they sending it to I don't know what they were sending. But were they sending it to the, to the actual, CEOs or were they sending stuff to the treasury? Because I I didn't see anything about sending to the treasury. I and I just heard never accepted for value, but accepted for honor.
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Yeah. I'm not sure. I don't think you send it to the CEO of any of these companies of any of these, billing companies because I don't think they know anything about this.
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May I? Hi, Julie. Thank you for so much for your continued research on the custody. This is Sketch. My new moniker is Sketch Sketch the Troublemaker. You like that one, Rich?
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My big You're not a troublemaker, and I love how you just wanna ask a simple question and somebody doesn't wanna answer it. You didn't ask for any names today. I was like, you know, it's funny. It's kind of I mean, I don't mean to trash anybody here. It's funny how there's a double standard. Like, you know, Brent can ask questions about where are you from and then where in that state are you from and all that stuff. But when you're just asking a simple question if there was a coconspirator, the answer is we're not gonna tell you.
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Yeah. I did. I did.
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And I I'm labeled a troublemaker. I'm labeled a troublemaker, Someone who repests to follow God and passing judgment on me, I think, is disingenuous, but that's okay. So I just wanted to You're sketchy
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and a badass. Come on.
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Okay. I I just come on. I had one comment on your first comment, Julie. You said there's a debtor and a creditor. And my question is, I know when you go into, court for a traffic ticket and you say, I claim common law's jurisdiction. I waive the benefit. So who who are the beneficiaries? Are both the creditor and the debtor the beneficiaries? I know the creditor is, but what about the debtor?
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So my understanding is that you are the there's co trustees and co there's co trustees and co beneficiaries. So you are a, you are a, beneficiary of that Sesame KV Trust. Right. Because they because they used because they used you. They used us. They took Yeah. Even though I mean, that birth certificate, that they had us sign over is is us. It's We The People. And then and then they took a loan out on us without our knowledge and without our permission, which we all know is fraud. So that's how we're entitled to some of the to the monies that are in the Sesame KB trust.
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Right. And let me rephrase the question. Is is the creditor and debtor both have a beneficiary, position?
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Okay. So that I don't know sketch, and here's why. I don't know if the debtor does because the debtor is the straw man, the dead person at sea. So when I was researching this yesterday, I got to thinking. And I'm thinking, okay. So the straw man is the all caps name on the birth certificate, which is a warehouse receipt. And then the small caps names that we have, the living man, the living woman, is the labor, and they that when they borrowed from the IMF, they are using We The People, the live person and the the live the live woman and the live man for labor. So I'm thinking that we are the creditor.
I'm thinking that the creditor is the, beneficiary because the debtor is basically debited c. Does that make sense?
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Yeah. Yeah. It does. I just I I I wanted I mentioned that court case. I I know of a court case where the woman was charged. She she was, sentenced, but at the end of that sentencing, she said, I I claim common law jurisdiction, and I waive the benefit, and she wasn't a national. Okay? So I just I was point I was thinking What benefit
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what benefit was she waiving, Sketch?
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The one the fine the fine that she got. Okay.
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Well, consider this if you if y'all would, that the creditor, you, your labor, has assumed the responsibility of the debtor. That's how we get you.
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Thank you. Thank you, Sherry. Thank you, Julie. And then,
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and then people were asking me the other day what happens when you die. When you die, you guys, this is so interesting. When you die, I hope I'm not talking too loud because I'm in my car on a speaker. Am I okay for my voice?
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You're fine.
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Okay. So when you die, your, Sesame KV Trust continues in perpetuity. And I got some. Saying they're not they're not allowed to touch the principal, but they're allowed to take all the interest off the top. And then and if you look at the, the contributor to the, fiscal budget, The largest contributor to the fiscal budget is the Department of Justice through the court system. That's the banker that's taking the money from our Sesame KB Trust every time we go into court, and it's literally a trillion dollars a day. And so the Department of Justice contributes more to the fiscal budget on a in twenty five days than we do on a yearly basis when it comes to the gross domestic product that The United States produces. I think we're around $2,627,000,000,000,000 dollars a year, and they get that $1,000,000,000,000 on a daily basis. And by the way, that is completely off books, and it's secret. They don't have to tell you anything about it.
Mhmm.
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Who thought this shit up?
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Satan? He
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sure is. Yeah. Bastards.
[03:14:36] Unknown:
May maybe it was somebody that invented the Ferris wheel. They just go round and round and round. But, thank you, Julie, for your answer, and I just have one one comment on when you die. They put your names in all caps on your tombstone. Thank you. I yield. Yep.
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Yeah. They do. Absolutely. And I was just like, oh my god. We're a debtor and a creditor on the left hand side is our vessel. And then then I was thinking, okay. Roger's always telling us that we're at law of merchant UCC code, and I actually am starting to say no, Roger. We're not. We're at UCC as a living man and a living woman woman, but as a straw man, we are in admiralty law. We are dead at sea. That's what they did to us with our vessel. So I don't know if anybody else has any thoughts on that. But because, you know, Roger doesn't wanna deal with the SESP KB account, he doesn't care about it. I'm thinking that our all caps name is under law law of admiralty and that our our labor is under UCC law merchant. Anybody else care to chime in?
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That makes sense. There's a handshake going on between the straw man and the live man and merchant and the Admiralty Law. The dead man operates in Admiralty, and, the live man operates in, merchant.
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Yep. And, here's the weird thing is that, they were saying that and I can't remember where I was reading this, but they were whoever it was that I was listening to or, reading, were they were saying that so when they originally borrow, say, the $1,000,000 and they put it on the left hand side of the ledger as a debit and the right hand side as a credit as a creditor, they were saying that, during the first teen for they actually issued treasury bonds on the credit side. And during that time, your first eighteen years, most of that time, you're not you're you're living with your parents, so you're not generate you're not you're not married. You're not buying a house. You're not buying you you don't have utility bills. You're not buying cars. You don't have medical bills because you're under your parents' insurance. And so during that whole entire eighteen years of life, the right hand side of the balance sheet or the creditor side of the balance sheet is growing exponentially in, investment money, whatever. And then Interest. You finally do, yeah, interest in everything. And when you do finally get married, that's when they like, you get a mortgage, they already take that. They take that out they put that on the debit side. Okay? So they've already taken that out of your SESP KB trust, and that's how you're double dipping and double paying because then they send you a mortgage statement in the mail, which is not an invoice and you don't owe it.
And, same thing with medical bills, same thing with, car bills and all of that stuff. And so when you do die, that's when they settle the accounts. They take all the monies on the right hand side of the the credit side. They pay off all of the stuff on the left hand side, plus they pay off the loan, that was, on the debit side that was generated through the IMF plus interest. And then there's a whole slew of money left on the right hand side from investments and from every time you had a life event, whether you got a promotion in your, in your job or whatever, and there's a there's a department in the federal government. I think it's the Department of Fiscal Management, and all those accountants do is track you and me and our expenditures.
Every single thing we buy is tracked and traced through. Bank statements, bank bank withdrawals, credit cards, Social Security number that you put on when you go in for a meeting. Any anytime you sign your name. Yep. And even anytime you sign your name and anytime you, use your
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your Social Security number, every single thing they track and trace Right. On direct deposit. Me just say this. When it comes to the mortgage, it's the promissory note that goes into the right side, and the mortgage goes into the left. Correct?
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I'm not sure where the promissory I'm not sure where the promissory note goes because my understanding is that the bank never ever transferred any money to you during your, purchase of a home. So even if you got a check, and you see a check and you went to the title company or settlement and there was a check, that's called check kiting. They wrote a check, and they didn't even have the funds in the bank. They just lie. And so they that's called check kiting when you write a a check on an account that there's no money in, but you don't know that because the bank can do whatever they wanna do. Or or they took the promissory note and then they sold it. They pull all the mortgage the promissory notes together into what's called, a a collateralized bond obligation or a mortgage backed security, and they sell that at a discount.
And then, and then they get the funds to fund the mortgage that way, which is unlawful because they're supposed to have done that at the time you signed that promissory, not note not later on. So then that means there was absolutely no consideration that the bank gave when you went and got your home, which means there was no transaction. It was total fraud and unlawful, which means that they had no right to put a lien on your home as collateral for that promissory note, which means they don't have any rights for closing.
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May I?
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Julie, may I just say something real quick, Ketch? Julie, you answer like Brent Winters does. You take three trips around the Mulberry Bush.
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Sorry. Yeah. Yeah.
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Ideal. I'm just messing with you.
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May I say it was fair deal Friday? Did somebody mention the Ferris wheel? May may may I? Few minutes ago.
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So, Someone mentioned the Ferris wheel. To say to,
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Sherry and Julie. I appreciate it. And, some one of you men mentioned the handshake, and I'm wondering if that handshake is a Masonic banker handshake. And I will say this, securitization of, people's proximity, I think, is illegal if you get down to it, but the courts won't rule that way. Way. I yield. Thank you so much for listening to me, Julie, and and, Sherry. And, this is Sketch, the troublemaker. Oh, I'm playing that I'm playing that victimhood up real strong today, Rich.
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Well, if it's any consolation, you're a good victim.
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Did someone mention the Ferris wheel?
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Sketch.
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It goes round and round and doesn't do anything except go in circles. So imagine that.
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You'll never know how great a kiss can feel till you stop at the top of the Ferris wheel down at Palisades Park. Remember that one?
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No. To Dell. Who wrote that one?
[03:22:20] Unknown:
I don't know who wrote it. It but, it was a great a big song. Big, big song. And I can't tell you who sang it either, but I'll work on it. I'll do some research. How about that Vermont border, caper by the CIA? They've got this, transvegan cult killing seven, eight people on the way to killing this guy, border patrol agent in Coventry, Vermont up in the Northern Kingdom. At least that's the way their story goes. They're great, screenwriters. You know, they write all this narrative that's dreamed up made out of whole cloth for the consumption of the news.
News on the hour, the news and a half hour, none of it's real, not a word of it is the truth. Kill the news.
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Was that, yes,
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I didn't see that story, but was that Northern Kingdom and, like, really close to Canada, some kind of stuff up there. Yeah. You got it. Go to your YouTubes and just put in Vermont border, VT border.
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Or Those guys.
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VT border patrol agent. Put that in there and you will see the most fascinating story involving some of the weirdest mutants that and, you know, CIA has these people. These are actors. They're all actors. And they have them on their list and they call on them to make these stories for consumption. So you heard the story. Did you swallow it? Did you believe it? Did you buy it?
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You probably have I was wondering about No. I'd say Right.
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What were you wondering about? I was wondering
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about, banning paper straws that had anything to do with the straw man.
[03:24:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It's all about the straw man. Paper straws. Oh, yeah. That's how he got the idea to to to, ban paper straws from listening to the, Radio Ranch with Roger Sale and company and and friends and people in the sandbox, classmates,
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co
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cohosts like Brent Allen winners, producer coordinators like Paul, Beamer, Breamer, Dreamer something, Paul something, and company. It's a problem with Soros. You know? He's he's got four sons. So it's Soros and Sons Incorporated. Soros and Sons, both words begin and end with s. We put dollar signs for the s in sorrows. So the first letter and the last letter of sorrows and the first letter and last letter of sons before the INC or LLC if you wish. I guess LLC stands for limited liability company. It's not a corporation. It may pay taxes as if it were a corporation, but it ain't.
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They need to be in prison. They need to be in prison with a sore ass.
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He's gotta be dead soon.
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Not if he hangs on like Henry. Right?
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Well, my cellmate's name is Penis de Milo, and he always says, you know what's so fun about slinkies is when you push him down the stairs. You can watch them just fall right down there and it's so much fun.
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I picked one up the other day. They still sell them. I can't believe Slinkies are still in the market. They're like wiffle balls made in Connecticut.
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Julie, thank you for, Julie, thank you for all the hard work you've been, putting in
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recently? Local Queen of local talk radio got on an airplane yesterday to Florida out of Hartford. Well, I don't know. She sat next to a big, Politico. I can't say who it is. I was not supposed to even say that. So, would you please, strike that from the record? Pretend you didn't hear it. It's like you tell a jury. You didn't see or hear what you just saw and heard. You must ignore it as a juror. Okay. We have no judicial system.
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I wonder if we can get it back. It's always it's always good when someone brings dog food to a good feed, isn't it?
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You know, Brent, changing the subject. Brent brought up Ashcroft, and back in the day, I thought, you know, oh, yay. We got a Christian person in the White House. And, then he did something. I was like, what? I forgot what it was. It was something outrageous. Yeah. I was I was disillusioned, say the least.
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Always called that guy ass crack.
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I can't I can't I can't, believe I forgot what it was. It was outrageous.
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Annette, I think it had to do with the Patriot
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Act. Yeah. That might have been it. But the other I think there was more than one that I was outraged by.
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Anybody remember Gene Pitney?
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Context?
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He was the founder of Pitney and Bose. Don't you know?
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I know everything there is to know about Gene Pitney. I grew up with him. He lived next to my grandmother. My my aunt Lillian taught him how to curse. So we went down to Saint Bernard's school elementary school. He cursed at the nuns. The the nuns beat the living shit out of them, and he dragged himself home and up the stairs and he and as he walked into the house all bloodied up, and his father said to him, what happened to you? And he said the nuns beat me up. So what did his father do? You can get this. You can get this.
What did his parents do after finding out that the nuns beat him up? You know you wanna say it. Say it. It has to do with how far we've fallen since the days of the nuns and beatings by our parents. The answer is his parents beat him up some more. That's how it worked. Beautiful story. So he became a great but, terrific writer and singer. You, you know, you were talking about who wrote Palisades Park and who sang it, but he did both. He wrote them and he sang them. Man Who Shot Liberty Valance was his, most popular. Did you get in right away or did you?
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Julie? Anybody that's looking for that truss stuff, I I was wondering if they looked into what stamper steps were and what they thought about that.
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I haven't printed that yet, but I definitely wanna look into that. This is George Idaho. And, I definitely also want to, I was reading something about, that 30 US code. I think it was thirty one and three like that. Interesting that you can make to the treasury. So I think that was it. That was interesting. It was right below the 32. You know what I'm saying?
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Well, in Stamper's book, he's got nine steps, but there's that's in a chapter with a lot of other subjects and things going on. And I wonder you know that's some fruit from a poisonous tree. He wrote another book prior to that called High Priest of Treason. That thing's no longer in print and it's very hard to find. I wonder if he went into more detail in there because he was talking about the banking system, in that book from what I understand. Maybe he got into detail on those nine steps, but
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Are you at liberty to read nine steps or?
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No. I'm out out on a job.
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So I just Me too. That's why I was counting on on your audible your audibleness. I don't know if anybody else has it up in front of them. That'd be fun. Is it nine steps that's like over 60 pages or is it pretty summarized?
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Well, my point is he only has short little nine steps in there and a couple of pages that pertain to those nine sentences, and how you do the moves to get to the trust. And that's why I'm thinking that maybe he covered it in more detail in High Priest of Treason. And maybe that's why they buried the book. I don't know.
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K.
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Did somebody call my name? I'm sorry. I was I had I was on mute.
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Not unless you're a priest or transomist.
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Hey, Julie. It's Samuel. Yeah. I wanted to ask you if you, looked at, Stamper steps and made any sense of that.
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I haven't yet, but that's on my to do list. So I don't have the actual book itself. I have the PDF version. And I remember reading it a long time ago, and I printed it out. I was trying to find it before I reprinted it again and used all the paper and ink in my printer. I know it's somewhere, but that was on my to do list to see what, his steps were.
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Yeah. That's in the book called, Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, and I wanted just to mention that there's not a lot of detail in that book on those nine steps. However, he wrote another book called Priest of High Treason. Prior to that book, I wondered if he didn't cover it in there in more, detail, but that book is impossible to find.
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Priest of High Treason. I'll look it up. I'll see if I can find it.
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Okay. Cool. Thank you. All I wanted to add.
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I mean, there has to be a way that we can access that. There just has to be. And I I know for a fact people were paying their bills before I don't have proof, but I just my gut tells me that people were, and then they changed around the system around because too many people were finding out about it and finding out about the fraud. So, I mean, imagine just if we don't have to pay taxes and we can pay our property tax bills and our mortgages and all of our bills on using the SESQUI k v trust, then a lot of our problems are all solved solved when it comes to what they're doing with our economy.
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Yep. Yep. Yep. It's changing. It's changing without us, but we're gonna be right there behind it and keep pushing because, we got the big answers here at the Radio Ranch. Roger Sales, your host, and, of course, it's Friday, which means mister Brent Winters is going to show up, I believe. And I see the the talented, lovely, and charming Francine has already shown up. So we're here on the February, and I think I said it's, Roger Sales, Radio Ranch, all that stuff. We're on a number of different platforms. Paul Beener is the one that oversees that, hooks him up, keeps him going, strokes him when he needs to, and, he gives them proper credit that they have coming for helping us extend our reach. Don't you, mister Paul?
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I do I do try. I do try to give them the credit that they're due. We're on, Radio Soapbox this morning. RadioSoapbox.com, the Paul English live show. Yesterday was great. What I was able to hear of it, I pretty much spent all day outside behind a shovel. Right. Anyway, we're also on one zero six point nine WVOU FM in Chicago, brought to us by WDRN productions who also brings ushomenetwork.tv, freedom nation. Tv, go live TV, and stream life.tube. That's, part of the net family of broadcast services. Our flagship station, of course, where it all began, it's the beginning, at eurofolkradio.com brought to us through pastor Eli James, and we thank him very much.
Also, Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice Radio are on the matrix docs as well as at the matrixdocs.com, as well as the links for free conference calls. So you can actually join us live on the show. We've got room for about a thousand of you. Yeah. Come on down. Well, if you're new, you know, it's the Friday edition, and mister Winters and I have been doing these shows for
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probably a lot longer. Neither one of us would like to remember, but it's been over ten years for sure. And, I hadn't missed very many over that whole period of time, and that's because Brent and I enjoy them so much usually. Have very interesting things to both of us that come out of these conversations. Paul, I guess the the question I'm gonna ask you, I think the answer may be no news is good news, I hope. Have we had had an update on Eli?
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Paul gave a brief update, yesterday, on the show, and he said that he is recovering, nicely.
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Okay. I'll I have to drop him a little message. That's good news. Like I said, no news is good news. Mister Winter show up yet, or is he still hunting a Wi Fi spot? He's probably still hunting a Wi Fi spot. Okay. Well, I did shoot you know, I I was telling you I had a little bit of confusion this morning on my end, computer stuff. And just one thing or another. I'm not gonna go in a long story, but my morning's been frustrated. I got back about twenty after ten and, shot him a message, and I haven't he usually responds, and I haven't heard back from him. So I'll I'll, suffice and say good morning to Francine, his producer. She's here.
Where's the where's the main object, Francine?
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Good morning, mister mister Sales. I also shot him an a message, Skyped him, and no response. Said he wasn't, there. So I'm not sure. Alright. Well, that's then we know that we don't know. Okay? That's right. We know what you're doing. Well, Francine, play us a song.
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Well, I got plenty of them. Don't know. I know you do. And you got some good ones too, by the way. Yep. Yep. Okay. Well, we can plow off on, see if Brent joins us here. Unusual, but not unusual. You know, Brent I think Brent Francine Brent kinda reminds me of the absent minded professor. You know? Yes.
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I I understand perfectly.
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And and I I had an uncle. My father's side of the family is quite scholastic, you know, university presidents and, tenured professors and all that stuff. And, one of my grandfather's brothers, there was five of them, was a biology, teacher at the University of Chicago, tenured. And he would, summer down in South Florida and, you know, interact with some of the universities and stuff down there. And so, one day, he was kinda hand packed. Alright? So one day, he he's sitting there reading the paper, and his wife comes in. And she goes, I thought you had a meeting today.
And he put the paper where he looks over and he goes, well, everyone else went yesterday. So that kinda reminds me of Brent. You know? Oh, he's here. He's here, Roger. Oh, he showed. Oh, okay. We've been beating you up, man, but, glad you made it. We are out hunting a Wi Fi spot where you're Brent.
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Yeah. I'm on the road. I'm on the road, Roger. And so Well, you're always on the road, dude. Yeah. Like Willie Nelson, but I on the road again, you know, all that. But, I didn't hear what you said, and so I'm I'm, of course, dying to hear what it is. And Well As you get older, you get so you don't care what people say about you, but I'll bet it wasn't that bad. No. It wasn't. It was it was kind of a compliment in in a really positive sense. You know, the the picture of the absent minded professor. Right?
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Well, that's what you kinda remind me of sometimes, and I'm talking because you're not here. We're talking behind your back, of course, here on the radio for all to hear. And I said, Francine, he's kinda like the absent minded professor. And she said, yeah. I know what you mean. And so I was recalling a story that I heard when I was younger. My grandfather was one of five brothers, and they, the the sales family is very accomplished, you know. A lot of university presidents and tenured professors and a lot of that. And this one of his brothers was a, biology professor tenured at the University of Chicago. And in the summers, he'd spend down in Saint Petersburg Camp area and be interacting with some of the universities down there. So one day, his wife comes in, and he's sitting there reading the paper, and she says, I thought you were supposed to be in a meeting.
He lowered the paper and said, well, everybody else went yesterday.
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Yeah. No. That happens. And I that used to be a popular, well known saying, absent minded professor when I was growing up. I don't hear it much anymore, but I understand it now, and I'm people used to make fun of people like that and where I'm from. And they talked about a professor there at Indiana State or University of Indiana that when they came out with the you know, it used to be the the turn signals. No. The dimmer switch was on the on the floor. You remember that on the floor? Yes. I y'all were on the left. Yep. Yeah. On the left side. Little tiny button you just take your foot off the clutch or brake or what the clutch. And then, well, they moved them up, as you know, to the little little, lever on the on the steering column. Right. And then they'd make fun of the professor that had a terrible accident and got killed because he got his feet tangled up in the steering wheel. Pedals.
Oh, got like if that's the dimmer button.
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There you go. Well, that's a good description of the absent minded professor, I guess. Mhmm. So, well, Brent, you know, the world is, the world's happening. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's happening. Okay? And it's like every day is some bombshell. So, we hadn't talked in a week. Lot of lot of water under the bridge. What what's your, what's your gauge on, what's going on? Or do you know too much? Have you been plugged in? Is Sue Sue keeps you connected or what?
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At this point, of course, miss Francine keeps me informed to send stuff to me. But at this point, it's so overwhelming that it's just it's everywhere. Yeah. And, I can't help but be one of the things that, the Trump administration is doing that that we used to scream about when I was in politics, but nobody's listened. Nobody it wouldn't get any traction. But there was a a couple of media outlets back then. It was thirty some years ago called, NPR, National Public Radio. Right. And then there was the public television stations. Mhmm. PBS. PBS. And these were put in place, by legislation, funded by the federal government during the uncle uncle Lindy uncle Lindy Johnson's presidential administration.
I say that facetiously. That's what we called him uncle Lindy. He was bad news, start to finish, and he was a hardcore racist. And as, somebody in the ancient past said, the the poor people are a gold mine. And that's what the Democrat party has used them for for many decades. Yep. A gold mine. They just want to get public money on the basis of what they're claiming to do for poor people, but they aren't doing anything. And so it becomes a vested interest for them to keep the poor people poor in place and in mass by the billions or millions, I should say. Mhmm. And that's where their money comes from. They cannot win elections, haven't been able to since the beginning by popular vote. They have to cheat.
And they've been cheating ever since. And don't think that when they cheated to get John Kennedy in with 20,000 ghost votes from the graveyard at Cook County, Illinois at the promise of the of the mob, and the mob did promise that and did it. And then, of course, he turned around, appointed his, his boy, brother, his baby brother who had never practiced law, didn't know beans from sour apple butter about it, to attorney general of The United States to prosecute the mob, and that's how the the mob was removed. That's where it all started. But they started because they put him in office. And then he turned around and said, we're gonna prosecute you and throw you out of office or throw you out of your positions as mob bosses and throw you in jail. Well, they weren't gonna stand for that after delivering the votes. And so the rest is history, and you know what happened. But NPR NPR was designed in that great society program to mine mine money from the American public based upon the rich. And they said, these people out in the boonies in in, America, there are a lot of them don't even have a TV station to listen to. So we're gonna provide promotes their point of view and the government's point of view, namely the left. Yeah. Propaganda.
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Better labeled better labeled propaganda.
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Oh, no question. You listen to them and you can bet oh, it's so blatant and obvious and it's it makes you wanna gag just listening to it. You can't do it. Well, when I was running for office, NPR was important. We didn't have any television stations. I I've been saying this all along. I never thought of it this way. We had no television stations in our 27 counties. It was a rural county. And so we had we had television stations on the edge, you know, Paducah, Kentucky, and then we had on the other side, Terre Haute, Indiana. And then we had, well, in the North, there was a station. But all those stations are not in the district. All of them are on the edges. So if you spent $500 for a thirty second ad for your congressional campaign, you lost at least $250 of it because it went the other way to people that, you know, couldn't vote for it. You're gonna say something about it? No. I'm agreeing with you, and I'm trying to mentally visualize what you're talking about, and I can certainly see the dilemma there. Yeah. So NPR was, however, was in the district and there were two stations, television stations that one of them was in the district. Well, no, now come to think of it. They both of those were on the edge of the district too. But the nice thing about NPR, Nice? Well, it wasn't nice. They would invite you in to to have debates and, then with your opponent and and they'd have it on, public, what they what's in there's NPR National Public Radio and then there's PBS.
Yeah. That's PBS. Okay. Well, they were all Public broadcasting systems. What that stands for. They're a % federally funded, and then they they have fundraisers and milk the public for more money and tell them, hey. We're gonna give you the real news. All this other stuff is with commercials. These people are biased, Fox News, all that.
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But we're gonna give you the real news, which wasn't true, of course. Would you like to, would you like to buy that this hundred dollar coffee cup? Yeah.
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Yeah. That kind of thing.
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Well, so I got on. Hold on. Paul's trying to break in. You know what you got, Paul? Oh, just just one quick point. I've always,
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concerned I've always considered NPR to be national propaganda radio. Sure. And they were the they were the the test bed for the Associated Press, which is where they actually spread the propaganda out among commercial
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stations. You mean the, press outlet that's barred from the White House press briefing room? Yeah. The AP news wire. Do you know that Brent?
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Well, no, I didn't know that. I knew that there was, an incestuous connection because I dealt with associated press as well. I had an in with him though. I had an in. Yes. Because Well. The fellow that covered our area had been to the same school I had been to as a as a military man. Uh-huh. And once we discovered that and he started asking me questions and we knew the same instructors and all that, and we've been to so he kinda took a shine to me. You bonded. You bonded. Yeah. And I'm glad that that happened, but it doesn't change the overall reality of the DNC.
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It it has not happened with mister Trump that way. No. Ten years ago. Well, I'm gonna tell you what the problem is because I don't think you've heard. You know, he renamed the Gulf Of Mexico the Gulf Of America. Yep. And AP won't recognize that. They keep referring to it as the Gulf Of Mexico. So he barred them. He barred them from the press room. I even better yet, get this, at the Pentagon, CBS, NBC, ABC, and the regular establishment outlets had offices. They closed them all and kicked them out and gave them to, like, Breitbart, OAN News.
They've even got Infowars as a media outlet at the White House now. Oh. So big big changes. Yeah, man. Woah. I knew that. You know, that tightens their sphincter muscle. Okay? Oh, yeah.
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Well, can you imagine though, and this happened during the Roosevelt's administration in mass using Hollywood and, and, the, for as a media outlet for the left wing communist democratic point of view. It's unbridled, unbridled, life. That's what they want. And they justify it saying that the rest of us are just dodo country boys. Mhmm. Clearly, that's what it is. We don't understand the problem. Look at California. Those dodo farmers down there in the valley, they don't understand the intricate issues of water and the ecosystem. Therefore we're going to do this with water, cut them off, starve them to death. And it means I'm, of course, here's the point, Roger, same thing's true with NPR.
I learned this, I was first told this, my father told me this, by the way, he was one of those country boy dodos that didn't go to high school, you know, and he didn't, but, we had coffee cans tied to the end of sassafras poles with bailing wire. We We poked holes in the edge of the coffee cans and we'd dip them. We were lit we were in the oil patch, so we had a lot of crude oil around and we'd dip them into oil and crowd hogs up in the corner of the of the shed with with, squeeze gates. And then we'd pour that, we'd reach out with those sassafras poles and pour oil into the hogs ears. And we did that, because that that way they wouldn't get ear lice. I'd think about it funny now to me. We we didn't even wanna spend money with Bryte and have it to go to the hog go to the go to the feed store and buy some kind of medication to put in there. Certainly, would never think of inviting a veterinarian out because every time he opened their own truck when he came out, it was an automatic $20, and that was big as a mountain back then. So we took the crude oil and dumped in the hogs ears, and, it was a a sweaty, hard hard job fighting hogs and dumping oil. And they were then they'd flip their heads around and flap their ears and that oil would go everywhere.
And I about, I was just about seven years old probably or eight. And I said, dad, what, why, why, why is this important? And he said to me, Brent, every parasite will consume its host. That's what he said. I remember the very words. Every parasite will consume its host if he's not stopped. And once he consumes his host, kills it, destroys it. That parasite will go look for somebody else to consume and the parasite even thinks he's, he's doing, doing a favor to the world by doing it. Well, that's what you're seeing. What the Bible says, what the horse leech has two daughters. The horse leech has two daughters.
The name of the first daughter is give and the name of the second daughter is give and that's it. A parasite, a horse leech, a horse fly, and all those other kind of parasites, all they do is take and demand that you give. And that's all that these scummy, low down animals like animals. I shouldn't say that's all they want. Give me, give me, give me political activism. Then get, as one fellow said, they went after this one bureaucracy, Trump administration did, and they discovered the bureaucracy had a $9,000,000 war chest, at taxpayer expense, kept up to $9,000,000 in case anybody ever sued them like the federal government was trying to do. They're saying, well, the executive branch who's in charge of these bureaucracies, you the executive branch, you're gonna have to sue us. We're an independent entity. No. You aren't.
You're nothing but an arm of the executive branch and executive branch by a stroke of the pen, wants to get rid of you. Right. That's what's gonna happen. I hope that they keep looking at it that way. There is I got a differentiation
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here for you that I heard people talking about. Some of the agencies were founded by Congress, and some are under the executive committee, like secretary of state's cabinet position. And the USAID was underneath secretary of state. So they could go with that fairly easily with no with total legality and no problems. It's the ones that Congress created, I think, where they
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might have an obstacle to get over. That's just what I heard. Okay? If Congress yeah. I've heard that stuff. I've heard that too. If they're saying that, it's untrue. Congress has no authority under the constitution. The constitution gives them no authority to create bureaucracies. That's not there. If they create one, it's under the president. The whole idea of our constitutional setup is our common law government, that there are three co equal branches of government. And everything in that government, this is our common law tradition, fits under one of those branches, and it's our common law tradition, which is our constitution, is a brief of common law government.
Everything is well defined put under one of those three branches, and the Congress of the United States has no authority to do that. So that that's easy. Now even you, Roger, you're saying you heard about it and you said, well, we don't know. And it's kind of foggy. That's because they're they're saying it's true. When it ain't true, it's never been true. Okay. And it can't be true. And we need to scream to high heaven to never give that kind of power to Congress, except for one thing, by the way, Roger, one thing. Congress has power to do according to our constitution. Yeah. And that is that is collect taxes.
Congress has the power to collect, not only lay them, but collect them. And they have turned that over to the, executive branch, ostensibly through the IRS. The the IRS is under the treasury department. The treasury department is under the president of The United States. The constitution is clear on that point. Listen, if if Congress had the power was, exercised their power under the constitution to collect taxes. How many congressmen would be in office more than two terms? Probably not very many. No. Or one or even one term. And don't think that that wasn't by design. So that that's, we're not gonna put up with congress NPR.
So we were screaming. We were getting on NPR. I got on NPR in my congressional district, and they usually had their television stations. NPR would. And a funded by the state government. Of course. They like all that government stuff. And I got on there with a fellow, who would who ran for governor later, got defeated and a long, long story. But I was on there with him, and we were sitting across the table from each other, big fancy television station with the lights. You know, you can picture. You can't see anything but the guy sitting right next to you, and it's kinda hot. And we're getting, getting right down the business, and the guy sitting across from me who had been in congress for decade or two. I forget how long it been, and he had a a stack of three by five cards in his hand.
And every time that the moderator would ask him a question, he would take the card in the front, put it in the back, and he'd look at the card and just start talking. I thought, boy, this looks odd. I didn't have any cards. I didn't know what the next question was gonna be, you see, but he did. And he had it all set up. It was all rigged against me. And then we had a break. They said, well, let's take a break, commercial, whatever. And we're sitting there and there's and, commercial, I say you list promotion because they don't have commercials on the boat, but we're, we're sitting across from each other.
And now I used to be a sailor, Roger. And I under I understand, cuss words. I know how to use them. One time I got pretty good at it. I'm not I try not to do that anymore. But, but I understand that this fellow sitting across from me, as soon as he was assured that the mic was off, he hoped it was, man, he came at me with the ugliest, most vitriolic statements, that any sailor could have, could have poured out of his mouth. And, I'm just sitting staring at him like, woah, Nilly, you know, and I, you wouldn't, you should never say that your mic might be hot. You know, you just know, but he felt assured.
He called me everything in the book except a white man, as they used to say everything and it didn't stop. And it, I couldn't get a word in edgewise or say, well, I think that's inappropriate, Glenn, or something like that. You know, which I probably would say in public. Now that's uncalled for treat him like a child. That's inappropriate, which I did at another occasion, but it tried to take the high ground. You know, you don't want to come across wrong. And the other people or the cameraman and all the people, the technical people around were listening to him. And then as soon as they said, okay, we're back, we're going back on one. Then they say five, four, like they do. You've been in this state. Countdown. Yep. Yeah. Three, two, one on and then click. And then all of a sudden, he smiles happy. He's the nicest man in the world. Wow.
That's the kind of
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animal. Aster. Yep. Yep. That's the ones a lot of them up there just like that. Just like that. And he's totally.
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He supported Clinton's crime bill. They had a, there was a town in that district that doesn't exist anymore. Roger, a town that doesn't exist anymore. It was one of the most, important economic hubs in our part of the world for a hundred and fifty years, I reckon, starting back with the flat boats that come down the Ohio and the Mississippi. And the name of the place is Cairo.
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Oh, yeah.
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North Of Memphis. You notice Memphis. Those are places in Egypt, by the way. There was Memphis. And then north of that, three hours by car was Cairo. Yep. Coming across come across the tip of Kentucky, then there's Cairo at the confluence of the Ohio and the Mississippi Rivers. Well, Cairo, of course, was an important economic hub because of the river traffic and, the the barges then became important. And men that lived there worked on the river because of all the coal and the lumber coming up and down, Mississippi and the Ohio and that town slowly, slowly, slowly began to go away. It was a and I remember we go down there. It was a a viable economic community and would have meetings.
Well, you go to Cairo now and, Jimson Weeds are growing right in the middle of Main Street. There's nothing there anymore. Really? Yeah. It's weird. I mean, it is surreal because this fell I was running against used to he he go to Congress, him and old Bernie Gray. Bernie Gray called himself the prince of pork. Do you remember prince of pork? Do you remember back in the 1970s, the yacht on the Potomac River that somebody knocked a hole in and it sunk and they couldn't, they said they couldn't get it off the bottom and, and all that. Well, that was Bernie gray's yacht and he was the prince of pork and he was in, the coal miner supported him in mass.
And he said for every dollar that, came out of his congressional district, dollars 3 came back from Washington DC. That's all he lived for. Well, him and old, this other fellow, Glenn, they'd team up together and they poured hundreds of millions of dollars into Cairo to try to prop it up, you know, to keep it going. It didn't work and things like that never work. What I mean to say is Roger, just to repeat it, the reality of it, that the government cannot control economics. I don't care what they do. And this comes down to Adam Smith. Adam Smith, you remember was the Scotsman that wrote a book called Wealth of Nations, about the time it was published about the time our country started and what he argued in that book. He was arguing against what we went to war over to separate ourselves from Britain. Britain had absolute control under the, the, the British East India Company, the British East India company was at war with a Dutch East India company. When I say war, I mean economic war. They weren't pulling guns much, but at any given time, at any given point in time, twenty four hours a day, both the Dutch East India company and the British East Indian company, each of them had over 2,500 merchant ships on the high seas. Now that doesn't count the ones that are important someplace.
That's how intense this competition was. And the parliament in England were the shareholders. Go ahead, Roger. If you, if you upsized them to today's scale,
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they would be as big or bigger than the largest corporations in the world.
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Oh, it was incredible. Then the British Navy and the Dutch Navy, which were both very powerful, their only task was to keep the sea lanes open for that company. And the in America, we were told at that time you can't trade with anybody but the Dutch or the British East India company. And if you do, it's a crime. And that's of course why they threw the T into the Harbor Boston. But even in that, I'm sorry, Roger, go ahead. No, I said, yep. I'm agreeing with you. Go ahead. And in that day that the control was so tight over everybody that, and wool of course was a big product in England. And you couldn't even take if you got caught with a bag of wool. And those of you that haven't been on the farm, wool bags are long burlap bags. I mean, they're long and there's a stuff and full of wool fleeces. And then they tie them off at the end and every wool bag of wool is a measured amount. But if you got caught with one of those bags within 50 miles of the coast of England, the fine with, without the proper, printing on it in a certain size letter in paint, you were fined. It was a criminal act. You were fined massively.
Well, that's the kind of control they exerted all over the world. And Adam Smith wrote a book called wealth of nations saying this is not the way, this will not make our nation the wealthiest. The way our nation will become the wealthiest, he wrote it to influence parliament, is that we have absolutely unfettered free trade with whomever we want to have it. And the Americans don't think that didn't have a strong impact in The United States. It had a stronger impact here. It probably even that than England, there were 8,000,000 people approximately in, well, Britain at that time, 3,000,000.
Well, between two and three million America white Americans, anyway, in the colonies. And, they were readers over here. You know, we read Blackstone by far and away ordered more copies of that than they did in England. We we were on top of what's going on, comparatively speaking, with the mother country, and we said, no. We're not going we wanna trade with other people. We got other people coming in here offering us this and that, and we want to trade with them. And, but even with the restrictions that they put on us, we were more prosperous than England. One of the reason was because we had developed the art of smuggling to a high degree.
I mean, ships were built in the American shipyards in our colonial days before our separation from Britain. Ships were built with the specific design of putting all sorts of compartments all over the ships where you could hide things. And that was part of our economy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And of course they were trying to, it was awful. The merchant law, they tried to extend it into the Admiralty law, all that's true and get rid of the jury and all those kinds of things. But, Adam Smith was a powerful force and Adam's the foundation of all is this. And Adam Smith says this right in the beginning of his book. I remember these kinds of things because that's the first principles of Adam Smith's ideas of economics. He said this, he opens his book. This is a a book by a man. You talk about the absent minded professor.
This man, according to his biographer, was so choked with books that he he seldom was aware of anybody around him. He got invited. Adam Smith got invited to a highfalutin fancy meeting one time in London. He was from Scotland and he was sitting at a big table. Of course, they were bringing out the different dishes and everybody had white gloves on and all that absolute baloney. Well, he was sitting there. He's a Scotsman. He's not into all that, but he was, he was talking and once he'd get to talking, he'd get in the ozone and nothing else mattered. He wasn't aware of anything and he'd just start talking.
And pretty soon he was saying the ugliest things about, in a, in a measured way, but ugly about the policies that a man was promoting in parliament and the guy was sitting right across from him at the table and he didn't know it. Noah. Yeah. He didn't care. That's the way he was. The students, you know, he taught Adam Smith, the most popular course he taught was, the proofs called the proofs of the existence of God. And, in those days, if the students didn't come, he was up in Scotland, he taught at Edinburgh and Glasgow and he would take the stage back and forth across from East to West from Glasgow to Edinburgh, then from Edinburgh to Glasgow teaching university courses.
You know, they wouldn't let the Scotsman come to school down in England because they hated them. They were racist to the hill. That's racism and that's, they hated them. And so they just formed their own universities and that became part of the Scottish enlightenment that produced America. But he he'd go back and forth and he taught this class called the proofs of the existence of God. And then you wouldn't get paid again in those days, unless students came to your classes. Well, all of his classes were packed around the walls. People had to sit on the floor to take his classes. And, he one, one student said Boswell, I think was that his biographer? I don't remember. But at any rate, whoever it was, he said, he'd just start mumbling. He'd stand up in front of the class and he'd start mumbling about this and that. And pretty soon he'd say a word a little louder, and then he'd talk a little more. And he'd say another loud word, and then he'd pretty soon he'd get on he'd get in the groove. He'd get to the point where he was completely oblivious.
After a while, he'd make a good ready just mop, and then he'd be completely oblivious that he was even in a classroom and he just start talking. And it they said pretty soon the subject would start to swell in his hands like a giant ball to the point where he couldn't even hold it. And he'd just drop it and start lecturing about the subject. And people of course were entertained, amazed. You know, it's kind of thing you can't a message, Roger, a message from the mind will communicate to the mind, but a message from the heart will communicate to the heart, and a message from the life, from a life will communicate to a life.
That's always been true and a message from all three, and that's what he was. He, like, other men I could mention in history, and pretty soon his whole being was part of his message and it came across with such a powerful force. But he said this at the beginning of his book, and his whole economic theory is built upon this one thing. He said, the thing that separates men from the rest of the, the, the, the kingdom of life, the animals and the plants and things like that. One of the things that separates us, is our ability to make a deal. And he put it this way. Nobody, he said, nobody ever saw two dogs in a corner.
And by their natural cries, one dog says to the other dog, I will give you this if you will give me that. That doesn't happen. In fact, that and that impulse, it and then he he he goes into detail you could never imagine about how that impulse to get to that point happens. And he makes the point, open markets are open. You wander into a store, you wander into a store on impulse, something grabs you. You don't know why. And you, you, you, or you just wander in cause you're curious and then something grabs you. And there's this impulse that he says, he calls it the great invisible hand of God. Right. Correct. It gives you this Yeah. That's the people have heard of that. It gives you this impulse to want to cut a deal, to buy, to sell, to buy, to sell. And it's this buying and selling. So, so government tried to prop up Cairo.
It didn't work. And I've often used this example also. And when I was running, I talked about it. There's only two cities in The United States that were incorporated by an act of Congress. Just two, just two cities. One of them is Washington DC of course. Yes. And the other one is Shawnee Town, Illinois, which isn't far from Cairo on the Ohio River, by the way. Shawnee Town. And, both of those cities are absolute and utter economic failures. And in shot the case, we know about Washington DC, whoever heard of Shawnee Town, well, Shawnee Town, you can go there today and know nothing there. Just like Cairo. There's nothing there, but there is a massive edifice of a building made out of with Roman columns sitting right down near the river.
Roman columns, it's all made of of massive Bedford stone, very expensive. And that was put there, the federal government, chartered the town, incorporated it, which the federal government has no authority on the constitution to incorporate anything, but they did. They did it so they could put the it was a big move during the days of Andy Jackson and before to put a national bank there. And they thought that that would be the economic hub of all what they came to call the Mid South, you know, the the Ohio Valley and then down for Texas and all that area. Mhmm. They had the national land office there to dispose of all that land that the Colony of Virginia ceded to the general government in Washington, DC to help pay the war debt. And they thought they'd ceded to the general government, which they did. You know, Virginia used to extend as far as land went, but they didn't know how far it went. They knew it went at least to the Mississippi. That was all Virginia.
Wow. And Patrick Henry, by commissioning, a fellow named, Clark, during the war just for separation, he commissioned a fellow with a 60 men to go into that territory and take it back for Virginia because, Britain said it no longer belonged to Virginia. And that's one of the reason we went to war. They did that to all the colonies. They took their Western lands and say, we we gave them to you by charter. Now we're taking them back. And so, Patrick Henry commissioned men to go in and take Vincennes, Indiana on the Wabash River and Kaskaskia, Illinois on the Mississippi. And by doing that, Virginia took back the entire Ohio Valley cleanup and, and Tennis, Tennessee and all what's now called the Northwest Territories.
A lot of it, not all of it was Virginia. Others belong to Connecticut and all those, all those other colonies. They took all that back and then seeded it to the federal government at $5 an acre. They put the land office in Shawnee Town incorporated, Shawnee Town and put the land office there. Well, at that time when Shawnee Town had all that fancy government stuff there, but they didn't have anything else, but they had that fancy government stuff there. There was a, a jerk water village on the mud flats of Lake Michigan called Fort Dearborn And it was just a mess up there. It was mud flats.
Well, they, they started having a little bit of, economic activity up there and the bank was down the national bank. See the branch, the closest one was down in Shawnee Town and it's about, I don't know, 600 miles or some crazy thing. I don't know how far it is from up there down there. And there wasn't any Chicago up there, just the mud flats. Well, these men that lived in this village, the city, the village fathers came to Shawnee Town for a loan. They said, we think there's something happening up here, and, we'd like to have a loan to do some public works. We wanna clean up the swamp and the mud and all that and maybe get some drainage going and get in a sewage system by drainage alone, not pipes. And we got some people and people are moving in, but it's a it's a muddy mess.
And so the board of the bank down there, the national bank said, finally, they may had a meeting and they told these fellows that had come all the way down there. They said, we're not going to give you any money. And they said, why? And they said, well, that blasted place up there, is too far. They said this, it's too far away from everything to any ever amount to anything. And within forty years, and I'm not exaggeration, exaggerating. Within forty years, Chicago was the economic hub of America, if not the world. Oh my goodness. If you don't believe me, just get a railroad map. Uh-huh. What how many railroads go into Chicago? Chicago was the economic hub. It grew so fast and so rapidly because of its connection, of course, to the Atlantic Ocean.
And then and then also the railroads from Montana, from the railroads in Kansas, from then later from Fort Worth, all came to Chicago and carried cattle and everything else from the mines. And so Chicago, and then they fed, Chicago fed Cleveland and all the places along the the Great Lakes that produce steel and all the coal came into Chicago. Everything came into Chicago. Mhmm. And that place by its own, on its own, amounted to everything in America. And without Chicago,
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Chicago is about bad now, but without Chicago, America would have collapsed. It wouldn't be what it is. Hey. Yeah. Go ahead. That was an accident. They were wanted to put it they wanted to put the railhead in Cincinnati or Louisville. I forget which. And they're on the river there and had such an abundance of commerce that they turned it down and went to Chicago.
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Well, but it all happened. Yes. I and you're you're you probably could tell me things I don't know. No doubt you just did. But, Chicago, because of economic forces that had nothing to do with the federal government was what it was. And Shawnee Town quickly faded into nothingness. And when I was growing up, everybody around in our neck of the woods used to say, if Shawnee Town was such a low rotten stinking filthy place, nobody wanted to go there. And the saying was, if you ever got anybody down on the ground in Shawnee Town, you better not let him up. I mean, it was just a rough place, but it was just, it was a place where people went to escape everything, to escape the law, escape their ex wives, to escape anything.
And, you know, about a 1,500 people ended up living there. It's kind of lost that reputation now because of transportation and better roads. But, that's what government will do for you. America is strong because America has had free trade. America doesn't wanna put up with monopolies of power anywhere. As, sir Edward Coke said, monopolies are, against the freedom, against our common law, again, therefore against the freedom of the individual and will destroy our nation. And what the government wants, number one, is a monopoly on force and violence. That's why when the Democrats are in power, they try to increase, police powers.
They wanna give, military weapons to sheriff departments. That's what they want. They love monopolies of vice, violence enforced.
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Until we got to the Biden administration and the defund the police and Yep. And transvestite and queer up the military.
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Yeah. That's and then you you add yeah.
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I I just wanted to comment on a couple of things. Back when Robert Kennedy went in and went after the mob, isn't that when the Rico statue was put in? It was put in originally to go after the mob, wasn't it?
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Well, the re Rico came after that if my memory served me correctly, but don't I I don't know. I just know what Rico is, and I know it was a modern modern more modern, tool for prosecutors, but it got see, all that started with Bobby Kennedy.
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Yeah. Well,
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he, he still had that attitude. Was that good? People say, well, well people say John Kennedy, as they called him Jack, he had a lot of good things lined up to do there. Well, that's all true. And what he wanted, we talked about this yesterday, what he wanted more than anything in the world was to be accepted by Protestant America. He wasn't Protestant. And that was a big deal back then.
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I've been fortunate.
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There was a book written that was very popular. And I remember as a kid people talking about it when John Kennedy was running for president. I mean, even Harry Truman said, this is wrong. Harry Truman told Joe Kennedy, John Kennedy's dad said, you're pushing your boy too hard and you're funding him and you're paying to put him in the presidency and that's wrong, but you're pushing him and he's gonna get hurt. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's I know what he wants to do, but he ain't gonna get it done. He doesn't understand how dangerous this is. I mean, look at DJ Trump. He didn't understand either. Nobody does. Nobody understands force and violence of their opponent until the force and violence is delivered. You can have people tell you, you can agree, you can see it happen to other persons, but until the bullet grazes your head like it did with DJ Trump, you don't understand.
You can't understand because there's something about firsthand knowledge that makes everything real. And when the government comes down with the billy club on you, I remember listening to a fellow who had run for, he had been a Black Panther and he had run for U S Senate in California way back in the day. And, when I met him, he was 60 years old. He was, he wasn't a white man. He was a black man. He was a son of a preacher. And so he knew how to talk, I guess. And he did, but he got up in front of a crowd. I remember Ron Paul was a speaker at this convention in Phoenix, a bunch of other folk that are libertarian kind of folk. And he was one of them. And he said, let me see if I can put it right. He said, a Democrat is a Republican.
No, a Democrat. I'm not a libertarian, but this is what he said. Democrat is a libertarian that does not understand economics. And a Republican is a libertarian that hasn't had his butt kicked by a cop yet. And I, I, I see the wisdom, the observant wisdom of that statement. Do you remember his name? I don't. Uh-uh. He used to be a Black Panther and he wasn't in with the Black Panthers when they took over the the administrative building at UCL, University of California, Northridge. I remember that. He was one of those kinds of guys, but he was, he, he was away from all that. And he was, he was Christian, man, when I met him and, and his, he had calmed down and seen the wisdom of, of, being a little more politic, but, and being doing what the Bible says and not just doing anything, not trying to use force and violence when it won't work. Well, he made the observation though, and this is true, that firsthand knowledge, that's what makes it real to where you're you will act upon your firsthand knowledge, with intelligence the way God wants you to. And that's what God says in the Bible.
That word in the Bible for knowledge and the old testament, Yaba, the root and the Hebrew word and the Greek word in the new Testament, ginosko in the verb form. Both of them don't just mean knowledge. Like we say in the West, like a guy knows a lot. That's not what they mean. Both of those words stress in a stressful way. Experience firsthand knowledge of experience, something that you experienced yourself. Not, you know, we as, as, as members of Adam's race are differentiated from the animal kingdom in another way besides what Adam Smith said, we can look at the bad experiences of other people and learn something. That's true. We can.
We can know about something watching the bad experiences of others, but we don't really know something until it happens to us. But there is that there is that difference. That's true. Roger, you're gonna say something else? I was gonna say a couple of that. Well, I just added that's that's
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probably true. Sounds true to me.
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Who was it? Sam Clemons said, a cat will only will only sit on a hot stove lid once. Once. Right? Yeah. But another cat will watch a cat sit on the hot stove lid and I've seen cats. Cats are funny creatures to watch. You know, they do something like that and they go sneaky. I mean they jump straight up in the air and run off. But another cat will watch a cat do that. Won't learn a thing. They won't learn a thing. They have to experience it themselves. Well, men are like that to a degree. Yes. I can watch another person do something that's painful and say, man, I don't wanna do that. But I, it doesn't really get into my blood to motivate me about it, to be convicted about it till it happens to me.
And when it happens to me, that's what the Bible says. The Christian man and the Christian woman only have one job, one job. And that job is to bear testimony, give testimony. And you can't give testimony unless you're a firsthand witness. You've, you've seen it with your own ears, heard it or seen it with your own eyes, heard it with your own ears. I have a friend who used to say, well, I something funny that happened. They say, well, Brent, that's the way the cookie bounces or that's the way the ball crumbles. And I don't, you know, she never she never knew she was even, mixing metaphors saying that. But I don't want She thought she was being profound, I suppose. But, I got the point she was making.
But when we see and hear things with our own ears and eyes, we touch them with our own hands. We feel the force of the violence of the government against us, the blackjack, the dog, the jail, throwing you in a cage, what whatever it is. Well, then all of a sudden, woah, woah, woah, woah. Now I I knew before. Now I understand. And the Bible says that there is that distinction. And once you, once you don't just know about it, you know it, then you have what the Bible calls and what our common law calls conviction. And without conviction, your knowledge will not you won't be a a moving force among other men and women. It won't come. There has to be that conviction. That's why the man, the man that has been in the firefight on the battlefield knows something.
He's been baptized. He knows something that the other fella that has been through a lot of training does not know no matter how much training he's been through. The training is good. It acclimates you to react without thinking, to know what to do without getting excited. All that's true. But then there's that, that firefight. So in the Bible, every time you see the word no or knowledge, in every case I can see, well, there is an exception in the new testament, but in most all of it, it leads to if it isn't directly said in both testaments experience because God requires of us to be witnesses and witnesses are not witnesses unless they have the firsthand experience.
And God will bring the firsthand experience to you. Don't worry about trying to as Wycliffe said, don't go out and look for persecution. You just do what God tells you to do, and he will bring all the persecution you want and more than you want. It'll all happen. And then you'll be you'll have been in the firefight. You have been a veteran. Then you will have conviction. Then you will become the moving force for others too. That's the way God works. Don't get in a hurry because if you get in a hurry like John Kennedy did, you may get hurt.
He thought he knew what he was doing. He didn't. And, other folk told him that and he had all his father's money to put him into office, even to the point of cheating, which they did. And he was, nobody wanted him because he wasn't, he was an Irish Catholic man that our country did not accept. And I remember that that was a big deal. So I wrote a book called, American freedom. I believe the name of it was American freedom and Catholic power. And people said, if John Kennedy gets into office, what's how do we know his religious convictions being deep that he won't be more devoted to the Vatican than to America? Correct. That's a valid question. And that's exactly how the Protestant reformation happened in the old country.
Henry got tired of Pope wouldn't let him marry all the women he wanted to marry or who he wanted to divorce or whatever it was. And he finally said, somebody said to him, well, listen, all these Roman priests, and there were a lot of them in England, they take, an oath of loyalty to the Pope. How can they take a toll oath of loyalty to the Pope and not have divided loyalty? And divided loyalty at common law is no loyalty at all. None. That's not possible. Loyalty is a hundred percent proposition. And they said they're taking an oath of loyalty to the Pope of Rome. How can they be loyal to, to the, to England and the crown of England?
Well, that's absolutely true. So he said, wow. So he got about 200 of the most high ranking priests in England in one room. And he stood up on a platform in front of him and he said, it's come to my attention that you've all taken the note of loyalty to the Pontiff, the emperor, the imperial Pope of Rome. Pontiff, the emperor, the imperial pope of Rome. And, that means that your loyalty to me, to me and to England is compromised. I wanna know what you got to say about it. I say that's unlawful. And I say it's a capital crime to not be loyal to your own country. That's treason. Yes, it is. Anybody got anything to say, Roger, we've talked about this. You've mentioned it. Yeah.
Anybody? What do you say about that? And you could hear a pin drop, you know, nobody said squat. I wouldn't either. Would you Roger? No. No. They they knew there was a response. What's I'll be done with this story and then you can talk. And, and he said, okay. I take silence and that as acquiescence in your crime. And, he find them all soundly. I mean, real soundly. He got a lot of silver out of them Yeah. And said, I won't I won't kill you, but I want you to reject your loyalty to Rome. You're now loyal to me. I'm the head of the church of England. That's how it all happened, friends. Yeah. And, that's what happened. Well, so And that gives us I well, I'm gonna interrupt Paul. Just wrap you up. That gives us silence deems consent.
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Mhmm. That's where that comes from, Paul. Yep.
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Yep. Yeah.
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Let's see. RICO is a weapon used by the government, against monopolies they don't own, and it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out. Another thing people need to know is how to get ahold of you because we've got, like, two minutes, and the whistler's gonna be interrupting you. So talk about it. Common Lawyer.
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Thank you, Brent. The matrix docs. I do did the whisper come around, or you'd like something to It it'll it'll be here momentarily. Ah, okay.
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So got it down. I want want to add something. The RICO is not just a government, but civilians can use it. The reason I know that is because Glenn wrote a RICO suit when he was up in minimum security in, Minnesota for a guy he met in prison and became became befriended with. And, they're they the opposing attorney came all the way up to the jail, minimum security, Northern Minnesota, somewhere, and offered them $3,000,000 to settle, and they turned them down. One of the things about RICO that is, kinda scary if you're on the defendant's side is they got treble damages.
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Right. But try to bring a Rico suit as an individual. You have to be
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the caliber of Glenn. Oh, well, I'm sure that. I have no doubt about that. I'm just saying, but it can be used from the other side. Brent, I wanted to mention you were talking about Adam Smith, and, of course, I've been down here in South America for a long time. And you get in discussions with people, especially ones that speak English down here, it makes it easier. But they always start blaming capitalism for stuff. Capital of course, that's the communist line. But they don't realize we're not in true capitalism like Adam Smith. He he used gold and silver, and we had honest weights and measures. And what you have now is kind of a a vulture capitalism by the money powers that stack all this compound interest in there and still call it capitalism.
So that that was one thing, big differential, it appears. I don't know if you've heard this, that mister Trump may be about to put us on some percentage of a gold standard. Have you heard anything about this, Brent?
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Very little.
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Would you then you don't know what's happened in those markets. There is virtually no gold left in the London Bullion Market Exchange. All of a sudden, in the last couple of weeks, copious amounts of gold have been taken out of those types of facilities. I guess all over the world, I know more about the London Bullion Market Exchange. There is no more gold there that they owned and controlled. And the people that had gold stored there, they're offering them to lease it, and they'll pay them 16% per month. Uh-huh. Per month. So all that gold is moving over The US. Both Trump and Elon have announced they're gonna audit Fort Knox, and Elon wants to take cameras in there and do it streaming.
So that's on the back burner. And Trump is talking about at least floating the, trial balloon, if you will. I'm sure it's more than that. About issuing a fifty year and possibly a hundred year bond at the two hundred and fifty commemoration next year that's backed by gold. So we're definitely, it appears, going into some sort of a specie backed currency to some extent is what it would appear. And I think that I think mister Trump is probably gonna do that and, and and revalue gold. Now to what is gonna be the question, but there's something big happening in the background.
[01:03:57] Unknown:
Well, gold is, who was it? It wasn't Adam Smith, but it was, Oh, it's Sam Johnson. Sam Johnson is the father of the English dictionary. And Sam, you know, before Sam Johnson, there was no standardized spelling in the English speaking world. Peoples even the most educated people spelled words, any way that came to mind conveniently at the time they were writing them. So Really? That that was a a tradition that continued up through my great grandparents. I've got letters from my grandpa and great grandpa on one side where he spells, the same word two different ways in the same line on a letter to his brother. You know?
Of course, they're not unusual, but used to be that's why everybody well, he wrote this dictionary. And by doing so, that began the process of standardization and spelling, but he made a lot of observations. He you know, if a guy is do dealing with words intensely for decades like he did, There's more in the history of the etymology of a word often than there is in the history of a military campaign. An an education comes down to words, friends. Oh, yeah. And that's a a a well kept secret in academia that you think they know about this and that. No. No. They just know about words. But they know a lot about words, and it makes them appear very, very well versed.
But that is the way it is. Words are that important, and we need to give them that kind of attention. Well, Sam Johnson was one of those kind of guys that knew a lot about words and so he knew a lot about a lot of things and he used to go to the little place where he worked and he did all of his writing and there was a what they call we call them shoeshine boys here in America, but over in Britain, they used to call them boot blacks. Yeah. And the boot black could be out there to put that black stuff on your books. That boots, they wouldn't shine them, but they'd make them look black. And the boot black was out there and he stopped to get his boots blacked. And, the boot black said, I don't want to black your boots today. I'm too busy.
Of course they're very class conscious still in England. And at that time, two hundred some years ago, they were very class conscious and he was put off that this lowly boot black told him to go fly a kite and he wouldn't put any in there. He had had no way to make him put, the black on his boots. But this guy was working, but he didn't want to do his that day. He said he was too busy. So he got to thinking about it and he said, Oh, I figure I gotta, I gotta figure it out why he's acting that way. He's, insubordinate toward a man of a higher class than he is, but why? And here's what he said. I'm going to quote what he said. He finally came to this conclusion. He said this, he erp, well he observed that he was paying them in silver.
See, that was different too. But he said, gold and silver destroy feudal subordination. Gold and silver destroy feudal subordination.
[01:06:58] Unknown:
Quite profound.
[01:06:59] Unknown:
That's profound. And, but here's the key to that. It of course bears explaining. It is true, but if you don't hold it in your hand, you ain't got it. And when you start talking about a gold backed currency and all that, I don't want to do that. Although that's better than what we got. We used to have that, but that helps. But that just that enables still corruption and lying and banking. That's what that's all about. We used to say when I was in the gold fields working as a geologist, we'd we'd say people say, oh, I got gold, and I found it in the water. And we I got this special method. We could extract it out of seawater. We could extract it out of this water in this well I pulled out of the ground here on the side of the mountain. We'll make billions. And my response was always the same. If you can't show me gold in my hand that I can see with my own eye winkers, it doesn't exist.
And at the end of the process, real quick, you may have a process you have, but you gotta get it into a gold button in my hand or I don't wanna I don't wanna talk about it. And that's the way it is with gold. When it comes to gold, my friends, don't be buying certificates that say you own gold. Yeah. The guy in the gold bank or wherever they say they're keeping it, he's selling you a a bill of goods. How do you know it, sir? You don't. And and and gold, I've discovered this for what it's worth, gold, when once people see it, the the temptation to steal it is almost beyond beyond resistance.
Yes. You're gonna do it. I mean, the biggest gold stealers in America, when I had a a lot of silver and gold one time, I was supposed to keep for a guy. I didn't wanna keep it. That's dangerous. And he was it was, an entrusted it was entrusted from his father. And so I went looking for a place to store it. I didn't wanna keep it. And there was enough gold there you could pay for the storage, and it it would it probably would have paid off. Well, I went to places like Brinks and those kind of places. I discovered that, most gold theft goes on in Brinks and other places that are supposed to be secure.
Well, the reason for that is it's just irresistible. That's why gold drives the wealth to the individual and you don't trust other people with it. You find out if you do that, you're gonna lose it. No. You keep your own gold and your own silver. That's what you do. And if you do that, it will destroy. And if that becomes the medium of exchange as it was once in America in a big way, by the way, Don't think that didn't have something to do with making us who we are. I mean, in Northern California until, Roger, until World War one in Northern California, and that's everything from South Of Bay Area, North Bay Area North, during until World War one, the the dominant currency was privately minted gold. Mhmm.
[01:09:52] Unknown:
Government government money didn't have much influence and it just what didn't float around in those places. Yep. But gold did, and that's what people used. And the mint didn't the San Francisco mint you could go out and mine and find your gold and take it to the mint, and they'd mint it up for you. Well, there were a lot what the charge was.
[01:10:09] Unknown:
Yeah. But there that's true what I read, but there are a lot of private mints that would do it. And there are still private mints in America. Don't Oh, yeah. Of course. But you gotta find them, but they'll do they want the business, and they'll put your stuff in a coin or or bar, however you want it. And there's there's more gold. People people think we're gonna run out. This is the little left. The left says, oh, there's just so much and we've got it's not sustainable. We gotta build windmills. We're gonna run out of oil. They've been build wind windmills have just and have have destroyed Europe. Germany now is nothing.
The windmills and all that baloney cost four times the energy is four times more expensive than than they woulda had if they'd had coal. It's And it's destroyed their they don't Germany is not even making much cars anymore, Roger. No. No. They're not. They're utterly annihilated.
[01:11:03] Unknown:
They got an election coming up in the next couple of days. Yeah. And the German officials are saying if the AFD, the moderate party, wins, they're not gonna recognize their win.
[01:11:15] Unknown:
I mean, they're about to crash the whole damn thing over there. Well, they're not left, and they're not even their economy is just gone because they're not producing anything. The green, all this baloney of worshiping the environment, the green has destroyed them and they're trying to destroy us. Yep. Trying to destroy us. Listen, we've got enough coal just from what we know we have in America, enough coal to run us for a thousand years even at if we took coal and it provided all of our energy, if it did, it it doesn't, of course. But, like, for our cars and our electricity, everything, We got enough to run just from what we know for a thousand years, but we don't know that. We don't know what else we've got, but gold is the same way. Oil is the same way. We've just discovered the two largest what our major export in America is oil. Yep. We got lots of oil and we're, we're overwhelmed with natural resources because of our common law tradition. We're enjoying them.
Russia has one sixth of the earth, of the earth's landmass and they've been starving for seventy five, eighty, ninety years. They got more timber, more gold, more oil, more diamonds, more gas, more farmland than any country on the planet and they're starving. Why? Here's why. Because of our, they don't have our common law tradition. They call themselves the Roman empire that continued and they're under like all communist nations. They're under the code of Justinian, the Canon civil laws of Rome and it destroys the economy for a lot of reasons. But not to go in, you'd get the book excellence of the common law and for what I've for what it's worth, what I found out the reasons, what the difference is.
Their agricultural system will destroy them. The agricultural system of the Roman law of the code of Justinian, we call it the Roman agricultural system. It's all over the world. It destroys everything. In America, we have what we call the common law tradition of agriculture and it has fed the world and continues to feed the world. We fed Russia when they were starving. We have surplus. Why? Because our common law tradition isn't called the law of the land for nothing. All of our wealth comes out of the land and the law of the land has developed, to take advantage of what God has given us. And that's what God wants. All he wants, and if you follow what God wants, our common law tradition is in sync with our Bible. The laws of nature, the laws of nature is God. And if you adhere to that, those two volumes of law, the first one unwritten are common law, the second one written. If you follow those, then you will have all the preservation mechanisms in the law to take care of the land, to not waste the land and to do it the way God said do it according to his terms, not according to yours. And this, this worship of creation, more mice and bugs and ecosystems are more important than starving babies will destroy the ecosystem and men. Listen, Roger, I know I'm not preaching to you just to say in general, we are a special, we are the crowning of God's creation. The race of Adam, the crowning, the Bible says, and I see it and we are responsible for this creation. We are responsible for the land. That's the heart of our relationship to our God, the land the Lord our God has given us under trust, the trust settlement of God. And because we have that, we can enjoy it and glorify him. And that's what he wants, but we must do it according to his terms. And there's more here than we could ever use according to him.
If we would do that and worship him instead of worship in his creation, worship the creator, attribute all worth to him. That means do what he says. Then all of this will accrue to our benefit, his glory, just like he says he wants and we will be the head as a, as a nation, the juror, the juror, a Christian nation, the Christian culture. We will be the head as we have been and not the tail. Yep. And that's what Trump is doing and all of the folk that support him in America, I should say what America is doing, not Trump, what America is doing. He's a politician. He's just following the massive movement that go in that direction. He says, okay, that's what you want. I'll get into office and I'll do that. That's the way politics works. And I'll do it and I'll do it in spades. I'll do it spades. He's doing it. He has the mandate.
That is great. We gotta have that. That's indispensable. But without a critical mass of men and women who follow the Christian culture and those two volumes, the laws of nature unwritten and lex non scripta and the laws of nature's God are our Bibles without folk, a critical mass, a culture of that. As Carroll Quigley said, he said that too. As as left wing wacko as he was, he understood that. If we don't have that, then it won't work. What DJ is doing is utterly meaningless. Because people then, if he does all this, how long is that gonna last? How long is he gonna be in office? Yeah, but who's gonna be in office next? And we know that the political power swings back and forth massively and what, who they're going to crown as King one day they're going to crucify the next. Doesn't the Bible teach us that?
And I have seen that. I remember when I was running for office, Roger, I was a popular guy. I had more name recognition in my 27 counties than anybody on the face of the planet. And we bought it. And of course that's the way politics works. Spent about a million dollars for a congressional race thirty years ago. That was a lot of money. Spent a million dollars. The only fellow that had more name recognition in my 27 counties with Bill Clinton, he had 97, 90 eight percent and I had 92, but that doesn't mean I'm a great guy. As I said, if you got money like Joe Kennedy had, you just buy that stuff. See, that's the way you do that. That's politics. But nonetheless, I had all that rah rah rah rah rah, and the day after the election, I'm standing in the campaign office, four or five copying machines around me that I didn't know what to do with because they didn't belong to me. Paper all over the floor. I'm standing in the office by myself.
And within a few hours before the place was crowded with people excited, right? Yeah. That's politics. Let's get away from that. Get away from that mentality. Quit worrying about all that and say, no, the thing we got to have in our hearts and minds is the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God as our declaration of 76 says. And it comes down to my friend, what is your conviction in that area? What are you willing? You can't be convicted about the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God unless you know something about it. That's why we encourage folk and I'm here. I've met I'm getting older like you, Roger. What are we gonna do? What influence can we swing for good? And that with the time we've got left, you've got a lifetime of experience. You wanna give testimony. So I said, okay. This is what I'm gonna do. I've got some people that are helping. We're going to do what we can to uphold this massive movement that's going on. People are saying, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're you're right. That's what we need to do, DJ.
But what's the foundation of all this? It's like always no government exists unless it has a foundation of law. What is it? Well, it's our common law tradition. That that's a biblical tradition, by the way, of two volumes. But there is no law without a law giver. A law giver of final arbiter of right and wrong and individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. And who is that law giver? The maker of all things, the creator God. And if without that sensibility in the hearts and minds of a critical mass of folks in your country, and we're talking to people as Paul says, across the drink, across the drink, God bless them. We have something in common with them. What is it? Our common law tradition. Without that, you ain't got nothing. You'll lose everything. Without law, the proper point of view about our law, we lose everything. I don't care what the rah rah rah, the political excitement is. And DJ Trump, it's not his job necessarily to teach all that. It's his job to act. He is called the executor, the executive branch. He's doing something.
The Democrats do nothing. They just talk. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Oh, we got the homeland. Yeah. We did this. They lie, lie, lie, and steal, steal, steal. And this is the thing too. If they said we're gonna put a hundred thousand cops on the streets, Is that what it takes? No, that's not what it takes to have a safe community and just throwing money at it. That's all they ever do. They never do anything. Biden and Obama are in office. You know what they did? Nothing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And things just go to hell in a hand basket. You got to do something. They did nothing. They didn't care. By the way, by the way, John Kennedy did nothing. He had that Harvard accent.
This is the democrat. They talk, they talk, they talk. What do they do? Nothing. Why? Because they don't know how. It's not part of their culture to do something. It's part of their culture to be loved and liked, and that's all that matters and have fun and play with girls. That's what the men do. I don't know what the girls do, but that's what of course, that is exemplified in all of that. There's the good and the bad, but the bottom line is folks, again, it doesn't matter what goes on in the White House, the State House, the Court House. It matters more, in the world, everything, what goes on in your house. What is the law of your house? You know the word economics.
It's a new testament Greek word. It's all over the new testament. What does it mean? Means house. Means law in the Greek tongue. That's our word economics. What is economics? That's how you run the law of your household. How do you run it? What, what kind of personal view starts with a personal conviction you have, my friend and a conviction. A conviction is something that does not change no matter what. And the only way you can get a conviction, listen to me, the only way you can get conviction is by personal firsthand experience.
You can't get conviction by going to school. You can go to seminary, you can go to Bible college, you can go to state university, you can do all, you go to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, go all those schools that will not give you conviction until the force of the evil empire comes down on you and you're in the war and you know it. That's how conviction got,
[01:22:07] Unknown:
somebody wants to say something. Yes. Miss Joan has a comment or question. Hi, Joan.
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Hi. Hey, Brent. What is it about Russia that they are not taking care of and tending to their land according to, the law of nature and the law of God? What, what are they leaving out? What are they not doing to, to make their land productive?
[01:22:36] Unknown:
Russia, the saying to Russia, see here as quickly, I won't take long from what I understand, going back a few centuries, the last vestige of the Roman empire, the Roman empire finally was reduced to the city of Constantinople and the year I believe was 1453. Does this matter? Yeah. This matters real big. Yeah. Ancient history matters, friends. Then you understand a little more. Here's what happened. It was, it was reduced to that. Constantinople. It wasn't Roman. The Rome was moved. The headquarters was moved to Constantinople under Constantine, the Roman Emperor. Constantine changed the name of Istanbul to Constantinople and the city became impregnable. They had walls upon walls, upon walls. They said nobody will ever get into this city.
180,000 Islamic Turks surrounded the city and vowed they would reach the walls. There was a, a turncoat, a turncoat, a trader named Urban Guedes, and he had an engineer. He had developed a brass cannon that would fire a projectile that weighed, I believe, 1,200 pounds. I mean, if you've got a, if you've got a, a 10 pound piece artillery, you've got a big Canon. And, during our, our wars, when we had like the war between the States and all that, they had cannons that would shoot four pounders, five pounders. That was huge and scary. This thing fired a projectile that weighed 1,200 pounds and it worked.
And they were not stupid. They understood the laws of stress and strain and rupture. You know, if you keep banging away at a rock in the same place, you don't even have to hit it hard. At some point with a sledgehammer, it will explode into a thousand pieces. Yeah. That's called the laws of stress and strain that occurs in that. You can draw graphs that show you when a thing will rupture knowing what the material is. Well, they pounded away at one place in the walls with that cannon that fired that projectile of 1,200 pounds, those Islamic Turks. Finally, they hit it enough times.
It exploded, fell apart. And of course they had it all mapped out. There was more than one wall and I won't go into all the details, but they poured into the city of Constantinople and the emperor had taken mass. He was Greek Orthodox court, taken mass or Roman, taken mass that morning and put on his armor. He knew what was going to happen. They found his body. He was dead. But before all that happened, the priesthood could see it coming. They said, we got to get out of here with our manuscripts of the new Testament in Greek, in the original tongues. If we don't do it, all that's going to be lost because those just want me to go. And all the jewels and treasure.
And that's the point. To the jewels and treasures of the Roman empire, the crown of the emperor and all that. And they grabbed that stuff. Somehow they got through the lines. I don't know where I'd have to go back and read, but they wound up in a place called Moscow in Russia and a niece. Now there's, there's a difference of opinion about this, but it's true. But however, how it worked out, there's a difference of opinion. But somehow the, family, a niece of the emperor married into the czars of Russia and Russia said there's been, one Roman empire and another one they'll ever be. You can look up the exact quote and we are the Roman empire and Russia, the Russian czars were called czars. They weren't called czars before, but they were called czars. After that they had the crown jewels of the Roman empire and a bunch of other idols and artifacts they said had magical powers as they were. That's idolatry to attribute the powers of God to a created thing. They said they had that and the czars called themselves czars because in, in the Russian tongue, that's the way to say Caesar.
Caesar, Caesar of the Roman empire, they called themselves the Caesars. And the law they had, was the code of Justinian of the Roman empire of the sixth century. And that code Russia took as the bad side. So that they and Russia and all communist countries, China, North Korea and all countries of the world that aren't overtly communist are all under that code. Now It's easy to start a country. You only got four or five, six volumes of law and that's it. You don't have, then it's like the common law tradition, separation of powers, independent judiciary, all that, independent executive, independent legislative branch.
You just got a government of a single will. Well, that's what Russia has been and the czars were the seizures they said of the Roman empire. That's again, why they call them czar. That's Russian for Caesar. So the reason, then they still have that law. It's an oppressive law of a single will. It's good in the short term to get something done. It's a militaristic kind of law. So you can get things done fast if you wanna make the trains run on time like Mussolini, you know, you can get things done fast, but it doesn't work in the longterm. Our common law tradition works in the longterm and it just swells and get more powerful. In Rome under the law of the city, which is the communist system fit well under the Roman empire because the political boss, becomes the government, Stalin, whoever it was, Reznef, they become the government. Their will, the political, the law of one man of a single will becomes all three branches of government and he decides what's right and that's the end of it. Very simple.
Our common law tradition is not like that. Our common law tradition, three co equal separate branches of government and none of those branches, three branches of government have lawful authority to tell the other one what to do. Oh, they can tell them what to do. They can't make them do it. They don't have any any any, tools to do that. I mean, the president of The United States could, beat down the doors of the Supreme Court. If he doesn't have authority to do it, he could do it. But in a common law country where we have common law sensibilities of a critical mass of the people that have developed over centuries, it ain't gonna happen. And it takes centuries, my friend. Somebody asked one time about this fellow, went to, an English estate and they saw all the beautiful gardens around the estate and how well kept they were and the shrubbery had grown up over the decades and was beautiful and shaped a certain way and all that baloney.
And, he said, how can I, how can I get this and, and transfer this idea to my country? And the fellow that owned the garden said, well, the only way you can get a garden like this, an English country garden is over centuries. I, you can't transfer this to your country. And that's just an analogy. I'm trying to make an analogy. What our common law tradition is. I'd said, I think last week that the, the Mexican constitution of the year, they called it the Mexican constitution of 1824. It parrots the phrases of our constitution of The United States. And that was their official law of Mexico when the Anglos of America, the American Anglos, they persuaded them to migrate into what they call Texas on a promise that they would adhere to the Mexican constitution of 1824.
But it wasn't that and they never did it by the way. But it wasn't that they wouldn't do it. They couldn't do it. It's not part in their religious world. Their religion would not allow it. That's what it comes down to friends because underneath the law giver, whoever your law giver is and your response to your law giver, whether it be a man or a woman or a thing or creation or yourself or whoever it is, anything but the creator, it's some part of creation. And under that law, the, the, law giver, your response to your law giver, that's the definition of what religion is. Well, look at it as you may have met a fellow from communist China two nights ago in a restaurant and I, or a coffee shop that was kind of a restaurant. And I said, where are you from? He said communist China.
And I said, well, are you a communist? You know, he laughed. He said, well, no, no. But he said the communist party, runs China. Well, of course they do. The boss, they call him in communism, whoever's head of the party under the code of Justinian becomes as, call him what you want. He's the emperor, he's the dictator, he's the party boss, whatever you want to call him, but he has absolute power. All three branches of government gathered into a single will. And, I said, well, you got religion? That's what I ask people often when I meet them and just to get a response. And he said, oh, oh, no. No. I don't have religion, but I'm very spiritual. And he was younger than me, and I felt confident to say it. And I said, now what in the world does that mean? You're very spiritual.
Can you define that? I said, I bet you can't, but go ahead and try. You know? And he was a nice fella is what I'm saying. I thought I could get away with saying it. And he I did. And he said, well, that that well, I don't know. He he had fumbled around. He didn't have a clue. He was just repeating what was a popular thing to say. When somebody says I'm very spiritual, I'm not religious. Just know they don't have a clue what's going on. They don't understand Christianity at all. Christianity is concrete. It's practical. It acts, it works. It has results. Jesus Christ resurrected in the body, not in the spirit for, for, for an important reason.
Christianity is where the rubber meets the road, my friends and the people that want a spirit, Oh, I'm spiritual law. They don't even know what they're, they don't know what they're saying. They just want to be accepted and be a nice person. And that's a nice thought. No life's rougher than that. Life is real. Life is war. Life can get bloody. It can be get violent and you better know what to do when it comes at you. And the evil empire wants to murder, to kill and destroy. Yeah. And you want to talk about spirituality like the left? Oh, let's just all love each other. It's all mush friends and it will result in murder, death and chaos. The, the culture of the left is a culture of death.
The culture of the right is the culture of death of men. The culture of the right that is right, I should say Christianity, is a culture of life based upon the death, burial, and resurrection of our God. Amazing love. How can it be? Says the old hymn. Amazing love. How can it be? That thou my God shouldst die for me. Have you noticed that in the evil empire, your, their God doesn't die for them. They die for their God. Yeah. It's just the opposite. A hundred thousand Japs, men, women, and children jumped off the cliffs at Iwo Jima and sacrifice to their God.
That wisdom man said he was 42 generations, a son, s o n, of the sun, s u n, called the emperor of Japan. They sacrificed themselves to him. The, when my father was at Okinawa, he said the planes come down over the Hills and they have brush fires from the top of the mountain and built in long trains right down to the targets on the beach that they wanted to blow up. They knew where the ships were gonna come in and those kamikaze fighters that come over the top of the mountain. But the other side of the island comes roaring down at night, following the embers of those fires they had built to run into those ships and die for their God, their emperor. And if you were in a building and the emperor was on that white horse riding down the street in Tokyo, and you were above him on the second story or higher, and you didn't have your window shade closed to keep you from looking down upon the God of the Japs or the God of the world, they said, then you would be executed.
Yeah. That's the way it is all over the world, friends. You got a law giver, you got a little arbiter of right and wrong and individual instances, removes decision. There is no appeal. And Hegel said this, I'll just a minute. I'll quit. Hegel, the Nazis said this, they had the Hagel's book printed, passed out to everybody in the SS and all. What did Hegel say? Hegel said he was a godless man, a philosopher, German philosopher. They worshiped this point of view. Hegel said the government is God walking on earth. What does Rome say? Rome says the Pope is in place of Jesus Christ, Vicar of Christ on earth.
If you've got the law of the city, the code of Justinian, if it's in your country, I don't care what other trappings of religion you got, the state, the the government becomes God walking on earth. That's right. And if you do that, God's gonna get you sooner or later and destroy your country. He God, the Bible says, God sets that kind of thing up sometimes or just allows it to be set up. He hardened the hearts of men against himself, like Hagel, God is dead and all that baloney. And then he destroys them. Is it any wonder Germany is in the position it's in? I know. I know. He uses evil men to come against what they were trying to do that was proper. They were trying to destroy bullshit bullshit. Say it for me, Roger. Bolshevism. Bolshevism.
Anyway, they tried which was a a radical religious movement, of course, as you know. Sure. You can go look it up. But they wanted to destroy international. They saved, trying to save Europe from all that. But in the midst of all that, they spit in God's face. I don't care how you cut it. That's what you do when you take on the law of the city. You're saying, God, oh, we're in place of Jesus Christ down here on earth. That's the definition of antichrist. Get it folks. Antichrist is not to say I'm against Jesus Christ. That word is used four times in the New Testament, Antichristos.
It means, Oh, I'm here in place of Jesus Christ with all the authority of Jesus Christ. I am vicar. I am anti. Those two prepositions, Latin and Greek mean the same thing. It means to be in place of, instead of, and have all the authority of. Vice president. That's the Latin equivalent to ante, the preposition ante. Or you end up being against Christ. That's right. Anti against, but at the same time it has more, more of a shade, more of a more color to it. That's what I'm trying to say. Somebody tried to say something, but that's That's John again, I think. John, was that you again, sweetie?
[01:37:32] Unknown:
Yes. Hey, Brent. I thought when you first was saying about, you know, several minutes ago, when you first brought up a brochure and all the natural resources they have, they have everything they need. Yeah, but the but you said, but they don't have they don't follow the law of nature and law of God. And that's why their land is that's why their land is not productive. I thought maybe you were saying saying there's specific tech, script that say, do these gardening or agricultural techniques and your land will be productive. But no. That's not what you were saying about why your land is not productive.
[01:38:20] Unknown:
Call me slow on the uptake, but the reason the land is not productive, the reason they were starving for seven years with one sixth of the land mass of the world more farmland than any country in the world Mhmm. It's because their agricultural system is not a system of the law of the land. It's a system of the law of the city where you Yep. Where you take people off of the land and bust them out to work the land as slaves without without any reward. And you will starve. Egypt did that. China's doing that right now. Russia did it. The agriculture system of our common law is more sophisticated and it works well. And in America, we've been feeding the world, including those countries I'm talking about for a long time. Not because we're better than them. It's because we have a different mindset and that mindset, my friends, comes over centuries.
The only, and the only reason it works is because of the critical mass of us that have that mindset. And that's what the evil empire had been wanting to destroy in the twelve years that went before DJ Trump. Eight years with Obama as the front man and another four years with Biden as the front man and Obama running things. We got twelve years of opening the borders, letting people in that do not have that mindset. You know, assimilation has been the policy of immigration, since our country began because we want people to come, but we want them to come in a way that we overcome them and they don't overcome us. But the evil empire wanted them to come, the Islamic man that was set. I can't believe this, but there it is sitting in the white house. Of course, he cheated too. He did. Do you never convince me he got elected as president, but he he's opened the board and said, we want everybody to come and we want people to come that have the mindset that is against our law of the land. Our law of the land allows the land to give up its wealth and friends. There's more there than we could ever recover. The Mo the recent I read this thirty years ago when I read another report over the USGS, United States Department of, you know, USG, the mines and minerals and all that USGS.
But they said that at the most, at the most, only 5% of recoverable gold has been recovered from the Lower 48. I'd say it's less than that. The the well US Geological
[01:40:50] Unknown:
Survey.
[01:40:51] Unknown:
Thank you. The US Geological Survey. Appreciate it. And we have well our land is so filled with wealth that we it's inexhaustible. You say it is? Yes. We're just learning how to tap into it. When I was growing up, we had oil wells at home. My dad worked an oil patch when I was growing up, 300 feet deep. We had one well I knew of there 150 feet deep. It was drilled many years ago. We just keep going deeper. Now at home, they got are going down a couple thousand feet and then they're going horizontal, like the spokes, brilliant. Yep. Horizontal, like spokes out into the formation. They're recovering. You know, for years, we only when we took oil out of the ground, We only took at the most 70% of what was in the formation. We couldn't get the rest out. Well, then they developed flooding. And we started, they started using dynamite at the bottom of the hole, and that got a lot more. That increased production. Then they started, using what they called flooding.
Mara Flood, Marathon Oil developed what they called Mara Flood. And they flooded those formations that they gave up on. They got more oil out of them that way than they got the other way. And then, and then they started fracking. Look, is fracking dangerous? Does it hurt something? Fracking is done in a way now that is not dangerous to the environment. It's getting better all the time. But my point is this, get off all the details of it. God has given us crowned us with the creativity as long as we're not idolaters. Idolatry destroys human creativity.
The creativity and the ability to put together the law laws of nature to get to, to give, to get the old cow, to get the earth, to give up her wealth. But if we abuse the earth, it's gonna stop. And the Bible tells us how to not abuse the environment, not the Sierra Club. Those guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. The Bible and the spirit of God that comes through with the new birth puts it in a man's mind and heart to understand how not to waste the natural resources. And God says, if you will do it my way, there will be no end to the blessing. And I can see that now.
I've said this often. We, people say, Oh, we're going to run out of oil and there's only so much. We got to go to Saudi Arabia to get oil. And we've discovered in America within the last couple of decades, the largest, the largest oil reserves under the ground ever been discovered discovered in the history of the world. Yeah. One up in North Dakota, another one down in West Texas. Yep. Relax friends and see the the whole economics of the left is, there's a limited amount of wealth and we gotta divide it up. That's the whole economics of the left. Yeah. We own everything and you don't get any of it. That's what it comes down to. But the economics of the right is that we got God has given us, an embarrassment, an veritable embarrassment of riches.
And he says, do it my way, recover it my way, pay attention to the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. Do what I want, and I will bless you beyond your wildest imaginations. That's the law of the land, our law of the land in our two volumes. Roger, stop.
[01:44:13] Unknown:
I wanted to tell Joan that you were referring to the communist years. You said the seventy years. Because what has happened with Russia, you know, Russia's got the strongest balance sheet of any country in the world right now. K? Do you know that? Brent?
[01:44:31] Unknown:
Oh, I thought you were talking to her. I'm sorry. No. No. No. I've I've heard that. Yeah. Go ahead, Roger. Well, what happened was it was us.
[01:44:38] Unknown:
We went over because these Trotskyites, they hate Russia. And they hate Russia because of Kazaria, which is Ukraine Yep. And everything that happened there historically. And they hate Russia because they stopped their first attempt at a new world order. And after the defeat of Napoleon, all the European countries got together and Russia voted against it. And they've always hated them since then. Okay? A a bunch of a lot of those people just hate each other over there in all those European countries, rivalries, etcetera. But, what happened was these maniacs that have been running our country, started throwing all those sanctions on Russia.
So Russia had to go back and start developing themselves internally. And so they've developed all those resources. They got every resource in the world. Okay? And and they're starting to develop that. On top of that, they go back and have been for about fifteen years, I think, divesting themselves in their treasury of US bonds. I don't know if they've got any US bonds, and they converted all that to gold. Uh-huh. And so that's where the BRICS thing comes from. They got one of the strongest balance sheets in the world, if not the. And on top of that, with these idiots that hate them so much and cannot control their hubris and their emotions, All they did was drive Russia and China together, which is exactly what nobody wanted.
Yep. And so now what Trump is doing is he's going back from the unipolar world that these guys had, American exceptionalism, etcetera, and he's going back in court in Russia and China, and Trump wants to make it a multipolar world. Look. Let's all exist. We can all do fine. We can all prosper. We'll just share. Go back. Let's here here's a here's a bone for you. Why don't we all go in and cut 50% of our defense spending? And that'll lessen the rivalry. Okay? And all these things. So I'm very I'm just so encouraged of of I never dreamed I'd see this day in my lifetime.
[01:46:54] Unknown:
Well, I didn't think of it either, but I heard him say the other day at a White House press conference. And, yeah, we wanna we're looking forward to the fifty first state, which will be Canada. Yeah. Right. Well, this makes sense in this sense. Yeah. We have been we've been our military and our money and our blood and our sweat and has has defended Canada, Greenland, all and a lot of other places, Europe. Yeah. I knew a fellow when I was in school. I don't know if I mentioned this. And years ago, when I was in law school at the time, I met him. He was at the university there and he was from The Netherlands.
And he had been a member of the Dutch Navy. The Dutch, but, and, but the Dutchman doesn't have an army. I said, why don't you guys have an army? He said, well, why would we want an army? America's here to protect us. Why would we spend our money when America will spend theirs? That's exactly what he told me. And, I found out that that was common thinking in Europe. Of course. Well it's over. It's at some point that has to be over. That's done. And no, it's done now.
[01:48:00] Unknown:
And as for Canada,
[01:48:01] Unknown:
we'll take Edmonton. They can keep everything else. Well, yeah, there are a lot of people up there that, you know, I tell people that Canada was part of The United States at one time for about thirty, thirty glorious days. Yeah. And, during our war for separation from Britain and, what was that fellow's name? I get mixed up all these different personalities. I remember the story, but he was from New England up in there and he went up to, up to Canada. What was it? Montreal? No, well maybe it was, but the British Garrison there, one of the, the Fort that was the controlling Fort up there. Uh-huh, on the, on the water? Yeah. On the water.
And he, nobody expected that they could get across the snow. They, you know, they were, they used ice skates back then, by the way, to get around. And they had, because men had ice skates. I'll be darned. They'd skate up and down the rivers and then they had snow shoes and all sorts of things. They got there and they just walked into the fort because the gates were open. Nobody expected anybody to show up that was hostile and they banged on the commanding officer's door at night and he heard a voice inside. Said said, who is it? And he told him his name. What do you want? He said, I demand your immediate and unconditional surrender.
He said, what? By who? In, in whose authority? He said, in the authority of God and the, and the Congress of the United States and they took the fort course didn't last long. But in taking that, they took all of Canada and taking that, took all of Canada, but of course the British army showed up before long and took it back and they were more powerful at that time and able to do that up there.
[01:49:46] Unknown:
But I meant to say Alberta. Yeah. I said Alberta.
[01:49:49] Unknown:
Well, Edmonton. Edmonton is in British Columbia probably, isn't it? No. It's in Alberta.
[01:49:55] Unknown:
And the reason is because of their tar sands up there. And I heard a Canadian guy talking about it yesterday and proposing to Trump because there's a lot of adversity going on now between us. He said, why don't you come up here and make a deal and give them a certain amount of money? There's enough oil in those tar sands to run us for fifty years.
[01:50:17] Unknown:
Probably more than that. He just doesn't know. Who knows? 55,000,000,000
[01:50:21] Unknown:
barrels or some ungodly amount.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
Who knows? Yeah, I agree. You know, you think about all the gold taken out of California, and most of it was taken out of the streams and river beds and off the sides of the Hills. Yep. All that gold came from someplace. It's all alluvial deposits. So It's all plaster. It had to come from loads and there was some tapping into the loads, but not very much. That's surprising. Well, those loads are still there and that's still underground. And how could we possibly know where it is? But if we ever hit it again,
[01:50:57] Unknown:
pardon that? Pardon that? Well, they've got this, these satellites that can see, I don't know how deep underground they've mapped the whole world for all the minerals.
[01:51:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they think, I think that they had, can they're learning more, but again, we're learning how to do that. They don't the the biggest mine in the Sierra Nevadas became the what they call the Empire Mine, Grand Mesa Valley. And that's where Herbert Hoover used to work, by the way. Oh, okay. 300 and he was a geologist in the mine. Yeah. Right. It was 30350 about 350 miles of tunnels underground. And that mine shut down in 1956 because of the well, the price of gold because the government got involved and fixed the price of gold at $32.50 an ounce. Mhmm. That was Roosevelt.
[01:51:45] Unknown:
See? Yeah. So because the price He upped it from 20. Before him, it had been 20. He upped it up to 35. They gave themselves a raise 78% or something after they stole it.
[01:51:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's what happened. Well, that was fixed until Nixon.
[01:52:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Seventy one, August fifteenth.
[01:52:05] Unknown:
And the production of gold then began again, but the empire mind had been been shut down and then it flooded within a month. It's been flooded ever since with that thing. And that was just one example. But there were few deep really, massive deep mines of, in the Sierra Nevadas. People are just picking it up off the ground and getting it out of the streams. And so we have Biggest
[01:52:29] Unknown:
nugget ever found. I saw a thing on video, but a guy out there found it with a Geiger counter. I mean, a, a metal detector.
[01:52:36] Unknown:
Oh, we haven't even begun. We haven't even scratched the surface of recoverable gold. And of course, the nice thing about gold, unlike oil, once you find gold, seldom seldom is anybody ever going to get rid of it. And all the gold that's ever been mined in the history of mankind, we, as a practical matter, we still have all of it. Correct.
[01:52:56] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's only as much as big as an Olympic size swimming pool.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
Yeah. It doesn't take much. I mean, you've got an, an ounce coin of gold, an ounce, about the size of a silver dollar. It's almost worth $3,000 now.
[01:53:11] Unknown:
Well, I think I think Trump's gonna revalue gold and try and use that to pop up because they're saying that we still may go bankrupt even with all this stuff they're doing in two years. So that's all the drastic moves and measures that are being taken. Did you hear this as a result of the Social Security dodge deal?
[01:53:30] Unknown:
What was that? Well, no. What was it?
[01:53:33] Unknown:
There there I hesitate to say this because I almost don't believe it myself. Yeah. Over 20,000,000 people over the age of 100 accepting Social Security. One, all 308 years old.
[01:53:48] Unknown:
There. You're just saying they're old.
[01:53:50] Unknown:
That's not true. There are checks going out and has been to more than 20,000,000 people that are over a hundred years old, all the way up to one who's three zero eight.
[01:54:01] Unknown:
They're dead. Well, I don't, I don't doubt that Roger. That doesn't surprise me. Does it you? Well, yeah, kinda,
[01:54:09] Unknown:
kinda. 20,000,000. They're bitching and complaining about social security and their oversight is that lax?
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Hey, Rod.
[01:54:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Somebody else say yes. Paul's saying something. I think Joan wanted to add something. Yeah. Paul.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
To be fair to be fair, the heading on that post said that an analysis of the Social Security database shows the following demographics with the deceased flag set to false. So basically what that could be saying is there's 396,000,000 total people in their database that are that they think are still alive, all the way up to three zero nine. It doesn't specifically say they're getting checks. It just says the Social Security thinks they're alive.
[01:55:11] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I I don't know about all that, but I'll take your explanation. Joan, what did you wanna add, dear?
[01:55:19] Unknown:
I just said they're dead. Those people that are over 300 years old that are made Do you think? Social Security.
[01:55:25] Unknown:
Yeah. You think they're dead, Yeah. Well, probably. Now the other thing that he did, Brent, I'll bet you don't know about this, is Trump went in yesterday morning and fired all the rest of the Biden US attorneys that did not quit so far. So all of the Biden appointed attorneys are out of the justice department. I think there's only 12 left or something. And then the most significant thing is gonna be interesting. He had all the agencies cut off any payments to my illegal migrants. So now the co the collection and deportation has kinda slowed down. You know, there's some leaks in the FBI. By the way, Kash Patel got confirmed. There's some leaks in the FBI that are tipping them off when Homan and his guys are coming. And so they've kinda set back a little bit. They're trying to find the leaks and have promised those people will be prosecuted and jailed. They're doing that.
Strong fist. And, but yesterday, he cut off all those payments. Now the migrants that are here that have been getting that 2,000 plus a month, Well, now they're gonna have to start resorting to crimes, and he can pick them up easily. So there's a there's a lot of things building. Yeah. Joe, go ahead.
[01:56:41] Unknown:
Oh, George. Idaho. Howdy. Oh, George. Pax Americana. Yeah. Pax Americana, Pax Romana. Sounds familiar. Was there more usury? Just a historical, question. More usury before or after the reformation?
[01:57:00] Unknown:
That I think that's to you, Brent. I don't know the answer to that one. More or less usury
[01:57:06] Unknown:
before or after the reformation. Oh, after the reformation. No no no doubt. Did you say your name is Joe?
[01:57:14] Unknown:
George. No. I thought it was Joe, but it's George. He's out in, Idaho.
[01:57:19] Unknown:
Are you in, Kalispell, George?
[01:57:21] Unknown:
No. I think he's in in
[01:57:27] Unknown:
Alright. George, do you have, monthly meetings up there? Are you the head of a group that meets monthly up there?
[01:57:34] Unknown:
No. No. I'm in Idaho. I'm in The Panhandle.
[01:57:39] Unknown:
Yeah. But I've heard of the group that meets monthly up in Kalispell.
[01:57:43] Unknown:
No. That that's Gary. That's Gary. They meet every week. Gary's been in the hospital. He had a relapse or whatever his problem was. Oh. Alright. Hold hold on. Let me catch this phone, please. Yeah. Hold on.
[01:58:01] Unknown:
Sounds like that's Gary.
[01:58:03] Unknown:
Is that Gary?
[01:58:05] Unknown:
Gary. Is that you?
[01:58:07] Unknown:
Yes. It's Gary.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Oh, Gary. Well, Gary Good to hear you, man.
[01:58:14] Unknown:
Yeah, Gary. So do you know the phone that just called in?
[01:58:20] Unknown:
No. But I've suspended our Monday night meetings, and it was every Monday night, Brett. It wasn't once a month. It was every Monday night. Oh, nice. Pretty good attendance. But until I get over some of these medical issues I'm dealing with, I've just decided to suspend those meetings for a while because I need to focus on my health.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Are you at liberty to give us an update on your health?
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Well, yeah. I'm sitting in the hospital right now waiting on the doctor to release and get out of the hospital.
[01:58:56] Unknown:
So you're looking forward to going home, though. It's gonna happen, you think? That's what Yeah. They wanna know you're going home. You're not gonna be there forever.
[01:59:04] Unknown:
No. I don't think so. But my problem is the doctors can't figure out what's really going on. They can't figure out what's going on with my blood pressure, which is astronomically high, And then I'm having pancreas attacks, pancreatitis attacks, which I wish that on nobody. They're horrible.
[01:59:24] Unknown:
They're painful. A discomfort?
[01:59:27] Unknown:
Very painful.
[01:59:30] Unknown:
Gary. Well, Gary. Gary. Yeah. Gary. Gary, do you know about do you know the pancreas? Part of what the pancreas does is digestion and that hydrochloric acid and pepsin is important for digestion. Right, Samuel?
[01:59:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm aware of it. We're trying to address everything.
[01:59:56] Unknown:
Good to hear your voice, buddy. I didn't know you were on there. It's great to hear you. So you're doing better?
[02:00:03] Unknown:
Well, hopefully, I'll get to go home today.
[02:00:06] Unknown:
I guess that's doing better. For you. We'll say a prayer for you, buddy.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Everybody at our call pray for you.
[02:00:12] Unknown:
I'd appreciate it. Gary?
[02:00:15] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[02:00:17] Unknown:
Can I pray right now?
[02:00:19] Unknown:
Well, you can. I'd appreciate it.
[02:00:22] Unknown:
Let's do it. Father, we know you're the great healer. We come to you as your sons and daughters in humility, confessing who we are before you. We come with our hat in our hand, acknowledge the sacrifice that you have made for our redemption. And we ask humbly that you would heal Gary. We ask that you would please give wisdom to those that are trying to understand the problem. We know you can, and we acknowledge you can do anything you wanna do. And we acknowledge also that we believe it, that you can do what you want, and you can do this. And we ask these things in inclusive authority of our lord Jesus Christ, your son, and for his sake and for his glory to heal our brother Gary.
Amen.
[02:01:30] Unknown:
Amen. And you caught the end of the show within three seconds. Alright. Good job, Brent. Good.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
Well, great to hear you, Gary. I've been asking about you, and I'm it's just wonderful to hear your voice and your in our thoughts and prayers. I appreciate all the prayers. I wish they could they could find out what's wrong with me.
[02:01:55] Unknown:
But all they've got is circular arguments. This is causing this, and this is causing this, and and it's just a circular argument.
[02:02:04] Unknown:
So anyway Well, we maybe better better pray for them to find a cause.
[02:02:11] Unknown:
Hello? We just appreciate Paul and Gary. We wanna know. We're here next week, and if you'll move to call in, please do so. Yeah.
[02:02:21] Unknown:
Somebody was trying to say something right there, inject something? This is Chris Chris from Cali. I've been listening to the program. And I've had some questions from Brent but I didn't didn't interrupt because, you know, he was on a roll and that was good. Now regarding this health problem, you know, like my daughter is studying at UCLA and she'll be graduating next year as a nutritionist and she wants to privately help people in situations like yours but we, our whole family, we don't go to doctors at all. We have health practitioners who are holistic that we go to and nutritionists that we go to.
And maybe you could find somebody up in your area who could help you in a different way from the American Medical Association, union and and get some real truth about your situation. And, I would recommend you look in that direction, and get away from your doctors and see what help is available.
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Believe me, we already have. But, Yeah. But when you have a pancreatitis attack, you have to go to the medical system because Yeah. The naturopath is won't do anything about it, can't do anything.
[02:03:43] Unknown:
Yeah. So in the more accurate.
[02:03:46] Unknown:
The pain of that is so intense. I I just can't relate how intense it is when it's I'm so sorry, man. I'm so sorry. Well,
[02:03:55] Unknown:
we'll keep
[02:03:57] Unknown:
Yeah. He keep praying they find the cause for you, Gary. And let's hope you get out today too.
[02:04:06] Unknown:
Now, Brent, I hear is about trust trust for trust for you. Do you have a little bit of time left today, or should we take that up, at a different time?
[02:04:18] Unknown:
The was that addressed to me? I I think it was. I don't Chris, I can't hang around today, but Brent may can. I got a full afternoon, a dental implant, try and get my computer back and all kinds of stuff. So and eat lunch in there too. So,
[02:04:34] Unknown:
I'm not gonna hang around very much. Brent, what were you gonna say? Yeah. I'm I'm I'll be here a little bit of you. He's gonna ask a question. I'm curious
[02:04:42] Unknown:
to know what is on his mind. I think he wanted to ask about something about trust, but I'm gonna let you guys with it and everybody else. I'll see you tomorrow. And Brent, as always, thank you very much. Okay?
[02:04:51] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
Alright, buddy. Ciao ciao. Be safe. Okay. Bye bye.
[02:04:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, soon, Gary.
[02:05:04] Unknown:
Okay, Brent. What do I have a few questions? Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Trust. First of all, I would like to clearly know what's the difference between a common law trust and a statutory trust regarding irrevocable trusts?
[02:05:21] Unknown:
Well, if the legislature wants to pass a statute to add some other element to the possibility of a trust, they can do that. And when they do that, then that becomes something the courts will probably enforce. But all trusts are common law trust, whether statutory or otherwise, or no other kind. The trust does not exist except in common law countries. And there's only about five major common law countries in the world. The Roman world, the law of the city world, all the rest of the world, Germany, Switzerland, all South America, Vietnam, all the communist countries, don't recognize the trust because the code of Justinian, the canon civil laws of Rome, don't recognize it. It's something that developed in our common law tradition back before we even know when it did. It's again, it's lost in the fog of antiquity, and it was called different things down through the centuries.
But it's part of our common law tradition. If the statute says, well, we've passed a statute that says a trust can last in perpetuity forever. We're doing away. A lot of States have done away with what we call a common law, the rule against perpetuities, which means you can control your property by the dead hand from the grave for only so long. And so trust in our common law tradition have always been limited to lives in being plus twenty one years. That's a complicated formula, but that's the way it said. But there's a limit. Put it this way for now, just for general consumption. There's a limit to how long a trust can last unless the legislature said otherwise.
The legislature has said otherwise in a few states, or they've modified the rule against perpetuities, and they call it a dynasty trust. Well, that's still a common law trust, but it relies on a statute. See, there's just confusion of terms of what is our common law. And you don't have a strong handle on that. None of this makes any sense. Now people say, and and lawyers are taught this and lawyers will tell you this. They're taught at law school. Common law is, common law is, not statutory law. Statutory law is not common law. That's not true either. A legislature that passes a statute can do so to perpetrate common law principles.
They've done that. For example, the the statute of habeas corpus passed by car parliament. That's intended. It was intended, and it's in every state of our union except maybe Louisiana. I don't have to look. It's a, Louisiana is a Roman law jurisdiction like Quebec. Because the French speaking people down there originally, where, and up in Quebec still are, the Roman religion controls those, that province and that state, and they're comfortable with a powerful government, and no jury, and all that kind of stuff. And they don't have that stuff like we do in the rest of the country. Well, by the way, that's the reason we went to war with Britain.
The Quebec Act moved the law of the city from North of the Great Lakes, expanded the province of Quebec down to the Ohio River. And that's why Patrick Henry commissioned a military force to go take it back, because the Roman law, they wanted the Roman law to apply to all those places. That's what legislatures will do for you. I'm just making a point. Common law principles govern the trust because all trusts, if they're truly a trust, used to be called uses. We didn't call them trust in the English speaking world. They were called uses, u s e s. That's the was the popular name for them, but they only exist in the common law tradition. And the thing that separates the trust from well, let me just say that. Let me say this.
Wyoming, Alaska, few other states have passed legislation concerning the trust. Different kind of things. If you go to those states, the courts will enforce that legislation. For example, in some states, they pass statutes. I've read. I just know what I read. Let's say that you can form a trust for your pet dog when he dies or your form of trust for your pet. Ridiculous stuff like that. Senseless, meaningless. But if the legislature says it, well, some states have passed, statutes saying a trust does not have to have a known beneficiary. Well, that's a statutory thing. I wouldn't trust it. I don't know what the courts are gonna do with it. The thing about statutes is unless, statutes passed concerning trust, the next question in our common law tradition, because of separation of powers, coequal separate branches of government, are the courts going to uphold the legislation?
Are they going to modify it? Are they going to just declare it unconstitutional? You don't know. But that's the strength of our common law tradition. And they just make those points to say, a statutory trust, a trust that relies on a statute can be a good thing. In most cases, I wouldn't want it myself because whatever the legislature has the power to put in place, the legislature has the power to remove. And our common law tradition has been more resilient, more, more lasting by court decision than it has by statute. And so I would rather, if I could, I just form a trust under, under authority of our judicial tradition and the all the cases that have been handed down.
It's a creature. The trust is a creature of our courts. It's not a creature of the legislature fundamentally. It exists. It's even it's possible. A trust is possible because our courts have recognized this arrangement that has come into litigation over several hundred years. Something that innovative people said they wanted to do and they did. Namely what? Well, they wanted to avoid taxation in England, for example. They didn't want their land to be taxed. They didn't want to be taxed personally. So they transferred ownership to somebody else under a duty to give them the profits. Let me give you an example just for fun. I've used this example a lot. I was in the mining business and my partner in the mining business was the same age as my dad.
And he lived in, Center Kansas at an undisclosed place. I won't say, but it was out in the middle of nowhere. He was a wheat farmer, and they grew up there. And on the border of Oklahoma, I'll say that. He he lived in Burlington, Oklahoma growing up, and then he lived over in Kansas. And he he went to World War two and was in Italy. And, when he got back from the war, his father had a little money. They had land, and he purchased a gas station in this little tiny town of about 1,100 people, 1,200 maybe the most. And he stayed pretty busy and he had a living and he was unmarried. He was a young fellow. He went when he was 18 to war and got back two years later, a couple of years later at this gas station.
He'd get up early in the morning, he'd be there when people pumping gas before people went to work. He stayed there late at night, left everybody, went to the ball games and did all the goofing around they did. And he'd be changing oil and whatnot. And there was this loafer in this little town, like all little towns that would sit on the bench in front of his gas station back in the late forties and, shoot a backhoe and just talk to people. He was an old man. This is the story he told me. And, he said one time he was at the cash register and this old man got up off the bench and walked in and said, Dale, I want you to do me a favor. He said, what is it? What is it? And everybody in town knew this loafer, didn't really know where it came from. Just used a familiar face around town, an old man. He said, I got $800 cash here.
I wanna give it to you. And I want you to no matter what happens to me, I'm getting awful old. I don't know what's gonna happen, but he said, I want you to take this $800 and do what you gotta do to make my life comfortable in case something happens. But in the meantime, if something doesn't happen, I want you to make sure I have enough for a little bit of groceries and chewing tobacco and all that kind of stuff. And Dale, just a young fella, he said, okay. I'll put it here in the register and be safe and I'll dole it out. He said, thank you.
And come to find out, he asked him, of course, dollars 800 back in the late forties would be like $8,000 or more today. It was quite a chunk of money. Maybe more, maybe double that. I don't know. A lot of money. And he said, where'd you get this all this money? Because he'd never seen him work. He grew up there as a kid and never saw the guy work. He said, well, he said, I came up this town in Kansas to the railhead on a cattle drive when I was 17 years old.
[02:14:46] Unknown:
And we got paid and we did what all
[02:14:49] Unknown:
people like that do, get a paycheck in their pocket. We went and got drunk like crazy boys that we were. We got to looking around and everybody hated bankers. There was a little bank in town, about three towns down the railroad or another railroad railhead down here. You know, the railheads go from Kansas and the East Of Kansas clear to Dodge City. All along that line are towns that used to be the railheads where they drive the cattle up from the South. He said, we saw that bank and we decided we'd rob it. And then we went in and robbed the bank and half a dozen of us hightailed out of town, my boys.
We came to the next little town along the rail line. We decided we'd rob that bank, but we noticed that six boys rode out and five or six boys, robbed the bank and five boys rode out of the town, and we robbed that bank. Seemed like the reasonable thing to do. We were having fun. And we robbed that bank, and, five boys robbed the bank and four boys rode out the town that time. And he said, we finally decided the odds were against us. And so we rode off onto the prairie and hid and divided up money, and this is my part, what I got left of it.
I cashed in the bank over the years. And I don't know whether it had gold or cash or what they robbed, but he said that's the end of it. Now if that were lawfully gotten money, it wasn't, but put that aside for the hypothetical that I'm trying to draw here. When he gave that money to Dale, was that a common law trust? And the answer is, the answer is yes, if he certainly, he certainly entrusted the money to him. But it's only a common law trust if he transferred ownership title to Dale. If you transfer ownership title in trust, that means legal title to a trustee and beneficial title to a beneficiary, ownership title to a trustee, you got a common law trust.
If you name the beneficiary and the property is clearly ascertainable, you got a trust. But that's what it depends upon, and that's what sets the trust apart from all other legal arrangements like a corporation. When you form a corporation, the president of the corporation and the shareholders do not own the property that the corporation owns. They own the, the, the shareholders own the right to profits, but they don't own the corporate property. When somebody sets up a trust, the trustee owns the corporate property. He holds legal title to it. He doesn't hold beneficial title always, but legal title ownership. And therein, that one fact explains the power and the distinctiveness of the trust arrangement. The trust arrangement is not a corporation.
It's not a separate person in contemplation of law that owns anything. No, it's the trustee. The trustee owns the entrusted property. Under a duty to do with it, what the trust document or what the settler of the trust has told him to do. That's why trust documents are important. That's the limitation and the commands to the trustee. But just understand, he owns the property. That's the grand distinction. And out of that flow all the benefits of a trust. And then then we can go into that. Now, if you're interested in these kinds of questions, again, go to commonlawyer.com and take there's two courses there. I think at least two at the law school there, Winters Inn, on the common law trust.
And may give you more of a feel for how the trust works and what it is. It's a mystery to most people, including judges and lawyers, because if you don't deal in it, you don't know anything about it. And most of them don't. It's not, doesn't mean they're stupid. I mean, everybody knows a little bit about this or that, whatever they can make money doing, they know about. Most lawyers don't make money in the arena of trust. So they know very little about it. But if you get involved with them and you begin to get a feel for them and, and so don't, don't think most people, most people don't know anything about trust either.
It's a mystery. But what I try to do in these courses and explain it in simplicity and just keep talking about it and hope it comes through to people, the fundamentals of trust and what they are. And because trust are unique to our common law tradition, they're also unique to our preservation of wealth and our common law countries and have served that purpose in a powerful way, by the way.
[02:19:38] Unknown:
And if No. Can you go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. I understood. I've actually I've I've written many trusts. I use trusts a lot. And, but I've come across some information recently that caused me to go back and look at this situation. And I'm going to take your course by the way. I think that's a great idea. Now the idea of an alter ego, being an attack against a trust or a trustee. What does that involve and how can an alter ego challenge be prevented?
[02:20:19] Unknown:
Well, a trust, it have it, often it is said it's a sham if it's an alter ego to do an illegal act. That's the danger. And so you don't ever wanna set up a trust for the primary purpose or any purpose of an illegal act. No contract is enforceable. No promise. And the if a trust falls under the law of promises, although it is not a a banal contract, it's a fiduciary relationship, it only has one promise at bottom. And that's the promise of the settler that settles the trust. But that promise is enforceable under a fiduciary duty, by the way, is very dangerous in this sense. If you're a trustee, breach of fiduciary duty can be a crime. It's a private it's we we our common law holds it in such high esteem. It's the highest duty known under the law of promises.
The highest duty known in our common law tradition is to be trustee of a trust. And most trustees don't have a clue about that. A lot of them have gone to jail. We had a judge at home. I used to put up pay for the family. And he was a judge in a little county there. People had a grocery store in the family for years, an IGA store. And they made him trustee of the money, several hundred thousand dollars they had compiled over the years. And he took $300,000 of that money, loaned it to his brother who needed a loan. They were all in the horse training business. It was a thoroughbred farm, loaned him $300.
Well, somehow that came out, paid it back, and, this a judge now sitting on the bench. He went to prison for six months, lost his judgeship, lost his law license, retained his judge's, retirement because he did a plea deal and got away with that. And when I hit I went to school with this guy's mother. I knew the family well. Put up pay for his brother when in the summertime when I was a teenage boy because they put up a lot of pay because they were boarding race horses. But I know another lawyer in a neighboring town, a neighboring town.
And, he went to jail for two years. He was trustee of a trust. He borrowed something like 2 or $3,000 for less than twenty four hours, I think. He needed it, A money that was entrusted to him in a trust. He borrowed the money, paid it back with interest within a day or two. I forget exactly. It was very short time. A heavy interest. Somehow that was discovered. He went to jail for two years, lost his law license. Why? Because that's how he didn't even hurt the trust. It helps the trust. But he didn't understand the danger. He was a lawyer. He didn't understand really how trust worked.
A good guy too. Well respected in the community. He said to himself, well, shucks. If I make a trustee, if I make a profit, that's my duty as a trustee. This will all be okay. But it was for a personal purpose. It's against the law and it can be criminal to benefit from your position as a trustee with trust property. I don't care what it is. I was involved with the trust not long ago. I was trustee. And, one of the beneficiaries said, Look, I've got this equipment. I can sell it to you. I want to get rid of it. If you don't buy it, I'm going to sell it to somebody else. There wasn't a lot of equipment. It was some containers and stuff like that. And, they told me what they wanted for it. And they said, Do you want it? I said, Yeah, I'd like to have it. And then I thought of it. And I said, Wait a minute. I can't do this. Even if I pay them a time and a half, what it's worth.
That's a badge of self dealing. Because I'm the trustee of the trust. Well, if I'm the trustee of the trust, that means I own the property that the trust is trying to sell me. See, that doesn't work. I'm the owner of the property. How can I sell the prop how can I purchase the property? See, once you understand that the trustee is legal owner of the property, then everything flows out of that. So you're not allowed to benefit in any way, except you can get a trustee's fee, but technically and legally, that's not benefiting from the trust property. That's being paid for what you do. You're taking up the responsibility and the dangers of being trustees. Somebody might sue you. And you want take that real serious. It happens.
You bet it happens. I've had that happen too. And if you know how to handle it and know what the legal ramifications are of the trust and being a trustee, you can survive it. But if you don't, you may go to jail. And because, again, the trusteeship is held to the highest standard of all relationships in our common law tradition. Higher than the president of The United States. No small matter. That's the warning I give to people. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.
[02:25:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, if if the trust was created to hold an investment like a house, can the house remain vacant, not rent it out? If that's what the beneficiary No. I know the trustee
[02:25:44] Unknown:
well, it depends upon what the settler commands. The settler commands in the trust document what what he wants. By default rule, the courts have said that it is the trustee's duty to enhance the value of the entrusted property. In other words, make a profit with it, if you can't at all, unless you're commanded. Otherwise, if you're commanded and it's the best interest, if it's in the best economic interest of the beneficiaries, to just hold the property for a while, if you can clearly show that, well, sure. But that'd be questionable. I'd want it to be moving unless I had in writing that the settler does not want that.
I would get it in writing that he doesn't want you to fill it out.
[02:26:31] Unknown:
Some of the some of the houses were, acquired just for the purpose of riding the market up because everything was bought right after the crash of two thousand and eight and bought very cheaply. And now of course, everything's 10 times that price. Yeah. And so that was the initial reason for doing this and putting them all in separate trusts and with me as the trustee. Now I've also read some things about the payment of rent. Can a beneficiary stay in stay in the house without paying rent?
[02:27:13] Unknown:
Well, that and what's are you in Chicago, or where are you?
[02:27:17] Unknown:
No. California.
[02:27:19] Unknown:
Oh, well, that's California has strong trust law. I'd leave it on the Internet. You're a trustee. It's real easy to do research these days. Just type in simple questions. You'll get everything you want. I'd be I can't I don't wanna give you a direct I can just give you general principles. I don't wanna talk about I'm not a California lawyer, and it would be improper for me to give you advice about what goes on in California, but I can talk about general principles and how trust law applies all over. You start talking about specific fact patterns, it would be inappropriate for me to give you advice.
[02:27:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Excuse me, Ben.
[02:27:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I found these things. I think I'm cool.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
One one moment, guys. I just need to get in here for, like, one minute. I don't I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm Yeah. I'm on my way out the door, and I gotta get this done quickly. I got a delivery yesterday. I got a keyboard and a mouse from Amazon fulfillment. I have absolutely no idea where it came from, because my keyboard got dripped on by my leaky roof and it died. And I do so very, very much appreciate getting a keyboard and a mouse in the mail. I don't know who sent it, so thank you very much. And I will not open that box and put that in place until the drips have stopped because, with all the diligence that I expended trying to save my other keyboard from death, I I was unsuccessful in saving it. So I'm not even gonna put the new one in place until the drips are done and the hazard is over. So thank you very much. And now I gotta get, and you guys have a Paul?
[02:29:00] Unknown:
Paul? Yes. I I did hear Rick say that he was going to order you a mouse and keyboard. So I think it's from Rick.
[02:29:12] Unknown:
Just letting you know. Well, I asked him. I asked him about that last night, and he said that he was going to do it. He was, like, ready to click the buy it now button. But, I started talking about, like, a flexible waterproof keyboard, and he he said that, well well, now if you're gonna get fussy, forget it. So he didn't. So we still don't know who sent it. Whoever did, thank you. It was it was a gift from God, and I am very thankful. I appreciate it very much. So back to you guys.
[02:29:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And and Brent,
[02:29:47] Unknown:
this is Steven, and I have a question when you're done with the trust.
[02:29:52] Unknown:
I'm done. Like, I can't yeah. Go ahead. Alright. You're done. Well, oh, by the way, go to my website. Send me your send me your address so I can send you a bill.
[02:30:03] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
I'm kinda joking, but we always appreciate what we're doing. What's that?
[02:30:11] Unknown:
What what changes when the trustee is a national? You're like, I'm a national.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
And, Well, you've always been a national, haven't you?
[02:30:22] Unknown:
Pardon?
[02:30:24] Unknown:
You've always been a national. You grew up in America? Yes. You born here? Yes. You're a national. I hadn't changed this. Okay. Okay. You may have filed filed a piece of paper to put somebody on notice, but you've always been a national. That's what an American is.
[02:30:43] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:30:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So don't yep. We need to speak that way and not say, now I am a national that well, no. You always were. You're just declaring it.
[02:30:54] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah.
[02:30:57] Unknown:
Does somebody else have another comment? Yeah. Yeah. This is Steven. I and I have a question, not on the trust subject. So, if I have your permission, I will ask the question.
[02:31:09] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. What's it about?
[02:31:11] Unknown:
Well, I I I have to preface it with, my understanding of conspiracy involves more than one person. So if a person is convicted of conspiracy against The United States, was there or is there another person involved that was convicted and served time? And do you think if you, had sent an affidavit claiming you're you're to be and rebutting the presumption that you were just a US citizen and that you were actually a national, do you think that would help have helped in your case and not let you spend time in jail?
[02:31:52] Unknown:
No. People get convicted of conspiracy from other countries all day every day. Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, well, not Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and South Americans. And they're all part of the drug cartels. They try to go to those countries and arrest them and drag them up here. Noriega still sitting in federal prison. He wasn't American. That make a difference who you are, but if you're involved in a conspiracy, a conspiracy is easy to prove. It's the darling of the prosecutors. Like they used to say in Chicago when they really went after the mob in the eighties and Giuliani was involved in all that. They said, all we need to convict somebody of criminal conspiracy in New York is, two people whose names end in a vowel and a stool pigeon.
That's all you need in front of the jury. Because it's only got two elements, an agreement, an agreement to commit a crime. That's it. You could prove that there's a crime been committed and there was an agreement behind it. You got conspiracy. You don't even have to have had committed the crime, you see. Just a conspiracy itself without the crime ever ever having been committed. People say, oh, there's never a victim. There's never a there's no wrong. No. That's not true. That's never been true in our common law tradition. There are a lot of crimes that have been against the law and still are against the law that don't hurt anybody. Burglary is one of them. Burglary.
Burglary is the breaking and entering of the dwelling house of another with intent to commit larceny or a felony therein. Those are the elements of burglary. If you break into somebody's house with intent to commit larceny or felony therein and don't do anything, don't touch anything and walk out, and then you get caught, you're going to prison. No damage done to anybody. People were even on vacation. They were gone. That's burglary. Same thing is true of conspiracy. Conspiracy in every state and at the federal government level attaches to every crime that there's a law against. You could have the crime and then have conspiracy.
And in some states, when you are convicted of both, they will merge together into one crime. In other states, it becomes two it's still two separate crimes, or you can just have conspiracy or the crime itself. But if you're but conspiracy just requires and the two the conspirators don't even have to know the other people. For example, a couple of theories on conspiracy, but, feds and the prosecuting for drugs, they know there are people in Mexico that do one thing, people in America that are doing another, then all these people in between. And the truth is most of them don't know each other, but they do know that if I keep doing what I do, then the other field will keep fellow that I don't know. And Mexico keeps doing what he does. Then, I I continue to make money and that's all I care about. Well, see, that's a tacit agreement.
I keep doing what I do. He'll keep doing if I keep selling it on the street, he'll keep he'll keep making it. Well, they catch them all, but it let's just say they just catch one. They'll convict him of conspiracy but that's what they think they can get him on easiest. And they may not ever catch the other conspirator or co conspirator that's unnamed, unindicted, never caught, but you still just got one guy you convict him of conspiracy. You see how how this can magnify and get real big real quick. You say to somebody, well, you were involved, on January 6 and storming the Capitol, and they catch you.
They say that you're in conspiracy with 3,000, 10 thousand other people. There become no limit, see. And if anybody in another state had helped fund sending people to the Capitol, which I know happened a lot, probably millions of dollars were spent to to rent buses. I know the little town I was from. There were a busload of people went to Washington DC on January 6. And I know some of the people that funded that bus trip. They were business people in in our little community where I'm from. Well, if they if they wanted to, they go after them and said, well, they could say you're part of the conspiracy. You weren't there, but you funded it and you knew what would happen. See? That's how dangerous conspiracy is. But conspiracy has been around for a long time. It's against the law. Here it is again. It's against the law to enter an agreement that results in the doing of a crime.
I don't think any necessarily much crime done there. I don't think there was that kind of agreement. I'm just using that as a hypothetical example.
[02:36:32] Unknown:
Right. So so my understanding is that you running for congress was the conspiracy and somebody asked you to run for congress. Did the coconspirator get charged with conspiracy?
[02:36:48] Unknown:
Well, it came down to a lot of things and came down to me practicing law. You know, that if the government didn't like a lawyer, they'll go after him for, under conspiracy because they'll say by the in defending his clients, he conspired with them to commit a crime. By being a defense this is the simplicity of it. By being a criminal defense attorney, you're shielding a man. And this is crazy, but this is what the kind of things they were saying. This was their under John Ashcroft, that was the John Ashcroft was attorney general of The United States. Assembly Of God Preacher's son. His father founded the Assembly God, big flagship Assembly God College in Springfield, Missouri called Evangel.
He sang in a gospel quartet, senator of The United States from Missouri. He, had Bible study in his office in the Senate Building. And then he said, any criminal defense lawyers in the federal courts that make less than $40,000 3 years straight and don't belong to a law firm, I want them indicted by a grand jury and imprisoned. That was his policy. Well, that's what that's what, religion will get for you if you have don't have a fundamental understanding of our common law. That guy was Attorney General of The United States, Governor of Missouri, Attorney General of Missouri, a graduate of the University of Chicago Law School. And he didn't know his butt from a $17 sunbonnet about the fundamentals of who we are as Americans.
But the assemblies of God don't either. I talk about Rome a lot. The assemblies of God have a government of one man, in most cases that I've seen. It's like all charismatic Pentecostal kind of churches. Here they are. The most important thing in the Bible is the kingdom of God, the government of God. And, they adopt a law of the city dictatorship for government of their church. Most churches, Baptist churches do that a lot. All the Assembly of God, television churches, Pentecostal churches do that. You go, been around a church like that, run for your life. Because Christianity is about the land and the government of God on the land being given to God's people.
And if you, if you show me, you show me the fundamental government of the dominant religion of a country, and I will show you the fundamental government of that country. And that's why all of South America is under some form of dictatorship. Why? Well, their religion demands it. They're that's what they want in their heart of hearts. That's what they're used to, and that's what they're gonna have with government of their country. Why do we have a common law government? Because in our heart of hearts and fundamentally, and this is what we're talking about in what we call Christian nationalism, not by law, it just happened. We don't have any laws say that we're Protestant. And when I say Protestant, I mean in the historic sense. You got to go back far to understand the mindset and the trajectory that those that founded our nation put us in. And we're still on that trajectory whether we like it or not. It's, it's Protestantism.
And that means that the Bible's front and center, not some religious priesthood. And that means that, we don't have idols. We don't have trinkets and Jesus junk in our churches. We worship the God who is unseen right now. But we have the Bible that becomes front and center. That's the law of nature's God. That's the second volume as Blackstone says, revealed religion written in our Bible. We have that, and that's front and center. And our government of our churches is to be a plurality of elders. I have deep convictions about this. You wanna be something other than say, I'm a Christian person and you're going to a Pentecostal church. They don't have a clue what the kingdom of God is. I don't care what else they say. They may be Christian. I don't know, but they're part of the problem. John Ashcroft and his family and his religious group are part of the problem because they promote in men's hearts of hearts dictatorship for government Government by a single will. No separation of three separate powers.
No eldership. What's an eldership? That's the gray bearded men that keep the executive branch in check. By their advice and consent, the executive branch, the president, the King, whatever you call him, he can do something. Well, if you're in a church like that, I suggest you get out. You become part of the problem. Because again, coming back to the fundamental, show me the dominant government or the government of the dominant religious institutions of a country. And I will show you the government of that country. And that's why in America, our dominant religious institutions were a plurality of elders and juries in our churches. Go back to the period. We're talking about that in our class, the, the Scotch Irish Puritans, the English Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and the Dutch and German reform groups understood the necessity of a plurality of elders.
Not in other words, not the government by a single will. And if there's an executive power given, so a man to execute, well he's there to execute what the plurality of elders say. That's what our Congress is theoretically anyway. And if he doesn't think it's constitutional, he shouldn't do it. And then you have courts to also over here, separate and co equal, the legislature, the plurality of elders says, here's the policy. Here's what we need to do. We call that legislation. And if the other two branches want to uphold it, they do. If they, if they don't think it's lawful, they don't. That's our common law tradition. That's the government that those three groups I talked about that we don't hear much about them anymore because they've gone they faded away and lost their grip.
Lost their grip, most of them. But that's that's who we are as a people. That's the trajectory we're on. That's the government we have, government we have. We still follow that. And if you aren't deeply involved in trying to learn more about it, then you're part of the problem. And you don't know it by nature, by the way. You know it by learning. The Bible commands it.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
Thank you, Brent. Thank you very much, Brent. I I really appreciate it. And, I just wanted to say that I tried to ask my questions as concisely as I could. So I just have one last question. I'm gonna have to take off, and I'll listen. Was there a coconspirator? Who was it? And did they spend time? Thank you very much for your time today, and you have a blessed day. Could you answer your question, though?
[02:43:34] Unknown:
No. I'm not at liberty to talk no. I'm not I don't feel liberty to talk about other people.
[02:43:40] Unknown:
But I appreciate it. You can't even say that there were coconspirators?
[02:43:46] Unknown:
No. No. I I won't, and I'll tell you why. It's bad policy to talk about other people. I can talk about myself. I won't talk about others. That's not I'd put it bluntly. That wouldn't be wouldn't be the Christian thing to do.
[02:44:00] Unknown:
I'm not asking for names. I'm just asking, was there a coconspirator? In conspiracies, there's usually one and more people. So I just need to confirm
[02:44:11] Unknown:
that there is one another. Wait. Wait. Wait. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. I know I did tell you the conspiracy requires two people or more. Didn't I? Did I? Well, whoever it was left. Well, if if there's no one else to try to or wants to ask a question or talk, I appreciate the questions. And all I can tell you is what I know and what I think is appropriate to say. And, I'm not the final word on anything. God's final word. And I Amen. Reckon I recommend you to the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. And join us on Sunday for church if you're of mine too. We're going through books of the Bible. We're teaching a course on Christian nationalism. We're trying to approach it from the way I've talked here, and I appreciate the question he asked because I do get to talk about conspiracy and the importance of it. You need to be, careful about it, and then you might when you're listening to all the recordings we have there, some of that might come across. Commonlawyer.com is for fun, more the business.
It's fun. I say fun, the fun of learning. Learning what's right and becoming part of the solution and not part of the problem. So I recommend that to you. You can listen to us on the radio seven days a week and, different outlets, and we have those posted there. We're We're going through books of the Bible. We're in the middle of the 10 Commandments on Sunday at In Church. And we're in the book of Jude, which talks about the unforgivable sin and what that means and how to avoid people that have committed it because they're doomed. You You don't want to be around them. That's what Jude's about.
And in all of this, we stress the laws of nature and the laws of nature is God. Well, thank you again for the questions and all the comments, and I'll check out because I'm tired of talking, but I appreciate the opportunity you've all given me and listened a little bit to what I've had to say.
[02:46:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you very much, Brent. It was very informative. I really enjoyed, especially what you went into about conspiracy. Now the man who was giving you a problem, he's been a problem with Roger and other people. I don't know who he is but he's been a problem. He's kind of a heckler So I would just ignore him.
[02:46:40] Unknown:
Oh, now so you're not the fellow that was just asking the questions about conspiracy. Is that right?
[02:46:47] Unknown:
No. This this is Chris from California, and I'm the one that initially started this conversation about trust.
[02:46:54] Unknown:
Oh, okay. But what happened to the other fellow that was asking the questions? I don't know. He disappeared. Oh. And that's good. Oh, okay. Well, that tells a story about him. It would have been friendly if he would have been. He's not being friendly. He's being rude doing that. If he's gonna ask questions, get free information what?
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He's a troublemaker.
[02:47:19] Unknown:
Oh, I'm glad you told me. Oh, I don't know out there. Yeah.
[02:47:23] Unknown:
Yeah. They're looking for trouble. When you hear his voice, you'll you'll know what he's after just to cause trouble.
[02:47:29] Unknown:
Oh, and well I gotta I gotta speak up. I gotta speak up. I don't, it sounded like sketch. And if it was sketch, he's normally pretty even keel. So, you know, I don't know what's going on. You know? You never know what's going on in someone's heart and mind. So if it was sketch, it's usually pretty even even an even kind of guy. So maybe give him a break.
[02:47:53] Unknown:
Roger had a real problem with him, you know, a couple days ago.
[02:47:58] Unknown:
Yeah. If you could overlook it because I understand understand. Just get just overlook it. You don't know what's going on with his personal life. So, he he's usually he's usually pretty even keel, you know, even you know, anyways, I yield.
[02:48:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, thank you. Listen more than talk and try and absorb the logic and the truth that's being presented.
[02:48:25] Unknown:
Well, I hear
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you. Yeah. Well, we're scheduled for you, by the way.
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West Coast, summers, either Washington or Oregon, I think. I think. Oh.
[02:48:41] Unknown:
Oh, I see. Well, you know, just to be in to know people for years and talk to them. You know, if you think you know people and then you don't after many years, that's happened to me more times than I could count. But to be on the Internet and talk to all you folks, I don't know who you are. I don't know what you look like. So that's why we demand, and I think it's a good idea, and I insist on it. And you're very polite people. Demand politeness and decency because there's no other way we could have any meaningful meaningful, happenings here without extreme politeness. We have to show overt politeness. I try to do that, but, you know, some of you have been here a long time. You know that sometimes I have to get pretty loud to try to maintain a little order.
And I, the rule is, Roger and I have talked about this a lot, and I've said it on the air. When I'm talking or Roger's talking, everybody else has to be quiet. And experience has showed me it's not that I'm more important or Roger's more important than anybody else or knows more than anybody else. Obviously, everybody knows what they know, and that's can be valuable. But, there is no other way to run a discussion without doing it like that. There has to be somebody that's holding the reins of what happens and what doesn't. And if there isn't, then chaos will ensue. And we appreciate you understanding that.
Again, it's not us wanting to overcome other people. It's just there can be no no no profit without order. Well, thank you very much again for all of you.
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One moment. Brett, so, Sketch did bring up another time at another time brought up he was asking about, smallest state and, capital state and, lowercase state. And what was the question, related to national? And I forgot oh, I I forgot the question. Oh, well, that's okay.
[02:50:42] Unknown:
I I yield. I I forgot the question. Oh, wait a minute. Don't go away. Don't go away. Okay. Yeah. Now you're you're in Texas. Is that right?
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Mhmm. Yes, sir.
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Now you may have told me and if you're not at liberty to say this, I won't press you, but are you at liberty to say where you are in Texas?
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The Greater Houston area.
[02:51:04] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Are you from there?
[02:51:07] Unknown:
Yes. Uh-huh.
[02:51:09] Unknown:
I see. Well, just to make a point on that subject about lowercase letters, that's a red herring. That means it's a it's a distraction to get decent people away from the truth. I've been in court with that problem. I've tried to defend people that have used it. Courts don't have any clue about any of it. I don't see any reason for it. Matter of fact, I know in the seventh federal circuit, they put out a message to all the lawyers that practice in that circuit to quit using capital letters. It's a habit that grew out of typewriters when there are only two options, capital and lowercase. And the court started doing it for some reason. Then we when we got away from typewriters in the last decade or two, now we're we've got a lot of other options.
Capital letters, all capital letters, all studies have shown are harder to read than lowercase letters, and the comprehension goes way down when you use them. We have statutes that say use all capital letters for powers of attorney. Certain things that have to be said. It just makes it hard to read, and everybody knows that, and we're trying to get away from them. The Bible itself uses capital letters for the name of God. Well, they don't do it for the name of God, for what the rabbis said ought to be said, the Lord. All the older translations are that way. There early manuscripts of the Bible used all capital letters for the whole Bible because they said it's more important than any other book. So it's all capital letters. But once they did that, it became very hard to read all as they say, used to say in the eighth and ninth century. And we still do that today because we want to stress something or want to emphasize something.
But no, don't think that any judge has a clue what you're talking about. He doesn't. Lawyers don't either. So you're wasting your time. I know people that have paid tens of thousands of dollars to people to write up pleadings with capital letters and the so called secret meanings of those letters. That's all Kabbalistic, Judaization. It doesn't mean nothing. It'll get you off, waste your money, and get you sent to prison in some cases. I've watched it happen. I've gone in and defended people that have done that and tried to get rid of it and told the judge, forget that judge. Here's the pleading. You can read this, can't you? Okay. Let's move forward and forget all that. And, so I say it's a habit in mankind since the earliest stages as I've pointed out about the Bible. We still struggle with it. Just get away from it. That's what I'd say to do. There's no significance to it that amounts to anything. Thank you very much again. Appreciate y'all, and, we'll be thinking particularly of Gary.
That bothers me that he's struggling the way he is. And, I sincerely sincerely want to pray for his healing. I appreciate all of you, and you're all like him. You're of the same mind. Most all of you, I imagine, except a few hecklers. And, I pray for all of you for the protection, from physical harm, spiritual evil, and most of all, false doctrine. That's what's destroying us. Alright. Thanks again. Well, lord willing, talk next week. Have
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a good few I'll see you at end church.
[02:54:29] Unknown:
Say again?
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I'll see you at end church.
[02:54:34] Unknown:
Oh, good. Yeah. We look forward to it. Yeah. You can get in the chat and talk while I'm talking.
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Okay.
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Alright. Thank you. Yeah. Adios.
[02:54:49] Unknown:
Well, we missed our chance at the term null teal.
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Remind me what it is, Brent.
[02:55:00] Unknown:
That pleading, that they say, well, it's not a plea, and it is. We talked about it last, Friday and Saturday.
[02:55:14] Unknown:
Yeah. What remind me what it mean.
[02:55:18] Unknown:
It means, what is it? No record. Julie brought it up. And it just popped in my mind as Brent was about to leave.
[02:55:35] Unknown:
Oh, damn.
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So I didn't wanna, you know, hold him up.
[02:55:40] Unknown:
That was Stets talking to Brent about, conspiracy. Right?
[02:55:44] Unknown:
Yep.
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Okay.
[02:56:03] Unknown:
I think oh, anyways. I'll leave it alone.
[02:56:06] Unknown:
Well, I'll speak up and thank you for at least saying that there I am usually a very calm and cool collective, and I I just interrupted him because I asked the concise question. Were there coconspirators, and did they spend time? Did you get the answer for that question? I sure didn't. You know? So that's the only reason I was interrupting him at the end because he would he wasn't gonna answer that there was a conspire co conspirator that asked him to run for congress and did that person spend time in jail also? That's all that's I tried to ask my questions very concisely and very calmly and I kind of understood that he wasn't gonna answer that. I wouldn't ask him for names. And I wanna address Chris.
Chris, I'm a sorry if I offended you with my questions today or with Roger on the after show. I was just trying to get one question from Roger and that was why he associated me with Anna Vaughn wrong in one sentence. So I was trying to get context from Roger why he associated me with Anavon wrong. That's the only reason, and there was a lack of communication on, my part and Roger's part. And I don't know, Chris, if you don't know this, but I apologized and told Roger I was sorry for my indiscretion. I hope you can forgive me too. I yield.
[02:57:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I thought it was pretty amazing. Post reformation, the amount of usury increased in post 1965. The amount of, PORN went ballistic, namely due to the same church that was Jewified there. But Martin Luther even said he beware of the Jews. Right? And, just kinda curious as the amount of usury went up and the amount of usury use. That word came up, the trust use of the female body with regard to porn became very prevalent also as a result of decency, laws that were decency that the Catholic church used to have to make sure that bad stuff didn't get to the public.
And, of course, what do they bring out first? They bring out a holocaust movie with some topless and that was their excuse, you know, free speech and, you know, to always story. We got nudity in it. And let's bring up Martin Luther King, mentioned him in a movie, and we'll be able to put that out there too because because we've mentioned Martin Luther King, but we can have an orgy there. Pretty ironic. Are you?
[02:59:31] Unknown:
Hey, George. I'm the usury. I'm the usury. Why don't you call it what it is? Jewthery.
[02:59:40] Unknown:
Hey, George. Did you get your question answered from Brent? You know, I remember you asked a question. I think seems like you didn't get
[02:59:49] Unknown:
No. I got I but I'm glad that the Kalispell gentleman, Greg, was he he was confusing with Greg, I think, but I'm glad he got his, you know, got chance to get prayed for. So you.
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Okay.
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That was, Gary.
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Gary. Sorry. Not correct. He did answer. He said definitely there was more usury after, but, that was the that was the amount of discussion. But I'm I'm very curious as, like, I mean, like, how the I mean, I Pax Americana to me is the same as Pax Romana, and, and I think, there was I think you were richer and medieval. You know? What kind of I'm a medieval conservative. This liberal we don't even realize how liberal we are. And, Jonathan Mock, you know, I'd like praise him. He was a bankster on the other side of the pond. So yield.
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They're just saying he had a lock on things.
[03:01:04] Unknown:
He had a lock we're gonna put it in a lockbox. Remember that one? Plus, money out there finding and all that. I wonder if they're just redeeming everybody's, everybody's trust. Everybody use a fricked. And they're, basically saying, oh, we're giving it back to you when it's really good anyway. I yield. I'll let you know what happens when I send in my, gonna send in a mortgage statement payable to the, with the dollar stamp saying, accepted for honor and then, another stamp saying, paid to the US United States Treasury without recourse.
Let you know what they say. A yield.
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Okay. Good.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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So I've done some research on that SESPV trust, and the charitable public trust, and I'm not so sure we make it payable to the Treasury. I'm thinking perhaps the International Monetary Fund. My research shows that, a bond was taken out, and we are a debtor and a creditor. And we can pay our bills, but I'm just I'm not so sure who we make that payable to. I'm thinking maybe the International Monetary Fund. Anybody else know?
[03:03:21] Unknown:
Well, I think, the I think, ultimately, the treasury works for that. But there is well, it's interesting because there is a bill constitutional treasury. So I think paying to International Monetary Fund might be like dealing with the Federal Reserve, whereas the Treasury would be the prop to retire the debt. I think if you sent it to the monetary fund, you're not gonna retire the debt. And I who's speaking? Are you? Yeah. It's it's it's me, Julie. So what I had what I had read is that the actual
[03:03:58] Unknown:
our birth certificates were borrowed against. We were hypophecated, and they used the IMF to to for the loan against our birth certificate. On the left hand side is our, on the on the ledger on an accounting ledger where you have debits and credits that have to balance, on the left hand side is our vessel or our straw man. On the right hand side is our labor. And, they borrowed against our birth certificate and used our labor, but that we're still able to, use that Susswee KB Trust for paying bills. And it didn't mention one thing about the treasury in it at all. It just mentioned the Federal Reserve and the International Monetary Fund.
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And what was the source of that again?
[03:04:54] Unknown:
Driving right now, so I can't tell you. But it's, it's a bunch of stuff that I've read and watched, online.
[03:05:02] Unknown:
Well, Julie, it's Sherry. Yeah. Hi. Hi, Sherry. Hi. The Federal Reserve is under the Treasury Department. The Treasury Department is underneath the International Monetary Fund. But, We The People have nothing to do with the IMF.
[03:05:19] Unknown:
So who's under what? Say that again. The IMF is under who?
[03:05:23] Unknown:
No. The Federal Reserve is under the Treasury, and the Treasury is under the IMF. Right. So it's IMF treasury and then federal reserve. Right. But what ties would we have with the IMF?
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Well, we do have tie with them because they're the ones that made the loan against our birth certificate.
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No. The treasury has ties with the IMF, not We The People.
[03:05:50] Unknown:
See what I'm saying? Right. But I'm just yeah. I get that. But then but if the original original person who made the loan is the IMF, why wouldn't you make your bill you see, what we need to do is we need to Well, why would you wanna set
[03:06:05] Unknown:
I just don't know why you would suggest yourself to the IMF. Let the treasury handle that. Let them handshake together.
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I don't know. We're trying to figure out how to get our bills and our statement paid using our SESQUI KB Trust. And if that was originally set up by the IMF, all I'm saying is that why wouldn't we I'm trying to figure out who to pay or who to who to what we need to do is we need to take the statement we get in the mail or the bill we get in the mail and turn it turn it into a bill of exchange and use bill of exchange laws, which are the UCC laws, to get our those things paid from our SESU KB trust. So I'm my thing right now is I think I know how to endorse all these and everything. The question is, where do you mail them or where do you send them?
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To whom?
[03:06:56] Unknown:
Does that make sense? I think you send it to the CEO of the comp at least in cases of, like, bills, you send it to the CEO. You're not gonna send it to the bill collector. You know? They're just gonna Right. Right. Right. I don't think But then I think if I think if it says paid to the treasury, then I think then their accountancies and their I r if the IRS is the ultimate accountancy, they figured the c CEO, because the CFO, the whole c suite, they have, like, a fiduciary responsibility. So I think, you know, I haven't seen anything about pay to the IMF at all, but maybe you're maybe you're looking at something I'm looking at. But, you
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know I think that,
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I think that, the guy that, Doug Riddle that, Larry mentioned, those videos from him, I think that his he they used to pay their bills using the treasury, but that that amount that wasn't working anymore. Sorry. You're hearing a little bit of beeping because I'm backing up. I apologize. So I think it I think it was originally the treasury and then it stopped working. So I was trying to figure out if there was an alternative, person that could be that you would send this to. And so I was just thinking the IMF since that was the entity that made the loan originally.
[03:08:15] Unknown:
But if they were sending it, were they sending it to I don't know what they were sending. But were they sending it to the, to the actual, CEOs or were they sending stuff to the treasury? Because I I didn't see anything about sending to the treasury. I and I just heard never accepted for value, but accepted for honor.
[03:08:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not sure. I don't think you send it to the CEO of any of these companies of any of these, billing companies because I don't think they know anything about this.
[03:08:47] Unknown:
May I? Hi, Julie. Thank you for so much for your continued research on the custody. This is Sketch. My new moniker is Sketch Sketch the Troublemaker. You like that one, Rich?
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My big You're not a troublemaker, and I love how you just wanna ask a simple question and somebody doesn't wanna answer it. You didn't ask for any names today. I was like, you know, it's funny. It's kind of I mean, I don't mean to trash anybody here. It's funny how there's a double standard. Like, you know, Brent can ask questions about where are you from and then where in that state are you from and all that stuff. But when you're just asking a simple question if there was a coconspirator, the answer is we're not gonna tell you.
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Yeah. I did. I did.
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And I I'm labeled a troublemaker. I'm labeled a troublemaker, Someone who repests to follow God and passing judgment on me, I think, is disingenuous, but that's okay. So I just wanted to You're sketchy
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and a badass. Come on.
[03:09:50] Unknown:
Okay. I I just come on. I had one comment on your first comment, Julie. You said there's a debtor and a creditor. And my question is, I know when you go into, court for a traffic ticket and you say, I claim common law's jurisdiction. I waive the benefit. So who who are the beneficiaries? Are both the creditor and the debtor the beneficiaries? I know the creditor is, but what about the debtor?
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So my understanding is that you are the there's co trustees and co there's co trustees and co beneficiaries. So you are a, you are a, beneficiary of that Sesame KV Trust. Right. Because they because they used because they used you. They used us. They took Yeah. Even though I mean, that birth certificate, that they had us sign over is is us. It's We The People. And then and then they took a loan out on us without our knowledge and without our permission, which we all know is fraud. So that's how we're entitled to some of the to the monies that are in the Sesame KB trust.
[03:11:04] Unknown:
Right. And let me rephrase the question. Is is the creditor and debtor both have a beneficiary, position?
[03:11:19] Unknown:
Okay. So that I don't know sketch, and here's why. I don't know if the debtor does because the debtor is the straw man, the dead person at sea. So when I was researching this yesterday, I got to thinking. And I'm thinking, okay. So the straw man is the all caps name on the birth certificate, which is a warehouse receipt. And then the small caps names that we have, the living man, the living woman, is the labor, and they that when they borrowed from the IMF, they are using We The People, the live person and the the live the live woman and the live man for labor. So I'm thinking that we are the creditor.
I'm thinking that the creditor is the, beneficiary because the debtor is basically debited c. Does that make sense?
[03:12:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It does. I just I I I wanted I mentioned that court case. I I know of a court case where the woman was charged. She she was, sentenced, but at the end of that sentencing, she said, I I claim common law jurisdiction, and I waive the benefit, and she wasn't a national. Okay? So I just I was point I was thinking What benefit
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what benefit was she waiving, Sketch?
[03:12:42] Unknown:
The one the fine the fine that she got. Okay.
[03:12:47] Unknown:
Well, consider this if you if y'all would, that the creditor, you, your labor, has assumed the responsibility of the debtor. That's how we get you.
[03:13:04] Unknown:
Thank you. Thank you, Sherry. Thank you, Julie. And then,
[03:13:08] Unknown:
and then people were asking me the other day what happens when you die. When you die, you guys, this is so interesting. When you die, I hope I'm not talking too loud because I'm in my car on a speaker. Am I okay for my voice?
[03:13:21] Unknown:
You're fine.
[03:13:22] Unknown:
Okay. So when you die, your, Sesame KV Trust continues in perpetuity. And I got some. Saying they're not they're not allowed to touch the principal, but they're allowed to take all the interest off the top. And then and if you look at the, the contributor to the, fiscal budget, The largest contributor to the fiscal budget is the Department of Justice through the court system. That's the banker that's taking the money from our Sesame KB Trust every time we go into court, and it's literally a trillion dollars a day. And so the Department of Justice contributes more to the fiscal budget on a in twenty five days than we do on a yearly basis when it comes to the gross domestic product that The United States produces. I think we're around $2,627,000,000,000,000 dollars a year, and they get that $1,000,000,000,000 on a daily basis. And by the way, that is completely off books, and it's secret. They don't have to tell you anything about it.
Mhmm.
[03:14:28] Unknown:
Who thought this shit up?
[03:14:31] Unknown:
Satan? He
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sure is. Yeah. Bastards.
[03:14:36] Unknown:
May maybe it was somebody that invented the Ferris wheel. They just go round and round and round. But, thank you, Julie, for your answer, and I just have one one comment on when you die. They put your names in all caps on your tombstone. Thank you. I yield. Yep.
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Yeah. They do. Absolutely. And I was just like, oh my god. We're a debtor and a creditor on the left hand side is our vessel. And then then I was thinking, okay. Roger's always telling us that we're at law of merchant UCC code, and I actually am starting to say no, Roger. We're not. We're at UCC as a living man and a living woman woman, but as a straw man, we are in admiralty law. We are dead at sea. That's what they did to us with our vessel. So I don't know if anybody else has any thoughts on that. But because, you know, Roger doesn't wanna deal with the SESP KB account, he doesn't care about it. I'm thinking that our all caps name is under law law of admiralty and that our our labor is under UCC law merchant. Anybody else care to chime in?
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That makes sense. There's a handshake going on between the straw man and the live man and merchant and the Admiralty Law. The dead man operates in Admiralty, and, the live man operates in, merchant.
[03:16:05] Unknown:
Yep. And, here's the weird thing is that, they were saying that and I can't remember where I was reading this, but they were whoever it was that I was listening to or, reading, were they were saying that so when they originally borrow, say, the $1,000,000 and they put it on the left hand side of the ledger as a debit and the right hand side as a credit as a creditor, they were saying that, during the first teen for they actually issued treasury bonds on the credit side. And during that time, your first eighteen years, most of that time, you're not you're you're living with your parents, so you're not generate you're not you're not married. You're not buying a house. You're not buying you you don't have utility bills. You're not buying cars. You don't have medical bills because you're under your parents' insurance. And so during that whole entire eighteen years of life, the right hand side of the balance sheet or the creditor side of the balance sheet is growing exponentially in, investment money, whatever. And then Interest. You finally do, yeah, interest in everything. And when you do finally get married, that's when they like, you get a mortgage, they already take that. They take that out they put that on the debit side. Okay? So they've already taken that out of your SESP KB trust, and that's how you're double dipping and double paying because then they send you a mortgage statement in the mail, which is not an invoice and you don't owe it.
And, same thing with medical bills, same thing with, car bills and all of that stuff. And so when you do die, that's when they settle the accounts. They take all the monies on the right hand side of the the credit side. They pay off all of the stuff on the left hand side, plus they pay off the loan, that was, on the debit side that was generated through the IMF plus interest. And then there's a whole slew of money left on the right hand side from investments and from every time you had a life event, whether you got a promotion in your, in your job or whatever, and there's a there's a department in the federal government. I think it's the Department of Fiscal Management, and all those accountants do is track you and me and our expenditures.
Every single thing we buy is tracked and traced through. Bank statements, bank bank withdrawals, credit cards, Social Security number that you put on when you go in for a meeting. Any anytime you sign your name. Yep. And even anytime you sign your name and anytime you, use your
[03:18:41] Unknown:
your Social Security number, every single thing they track and trace Right. On direct deposit. Me just say this. When it comes to the mortgage, it's the promissory note that goes into the right side, and the mortgage goes into the left. Correct?
[03:18:58] Unknown:
I'm not sure where the promissory I'm not sure where the promissory note goes because my understanding is that the bank never ever transferred any money to you during your, purchase of a home. So even if you got a check, and you see a check and you went to the title company or settlement and there was a check, that's called check kiting. They wrote a check, and they didn't even have the funds in the bank. They just lie. And so they that's called check kiting when you write a a check on an account that there's no money in, but you don't know that because the bank can do whatever they wanna do. Or or they took the promissory note and then they sold it. They pull all the mortgage the promissory notes together into what's called, a a collateralized bond obligation or a mortgage backed security, and they sell that at a discount.
And then, and then they get the funds to fund the mortgage that way, which is unlawful because they're supposed to have done that at the time you signed that promissory, not note not later on. So then that means there was absolutely no consideration that the bank gave when you went and got your home, which means there was no transaction. It was total fraud and unlawful, which means that they had no right to put a lien on your home as collateral for that promissory note, which means they don't have any rights for closing.
[03:20:20] Unknown:
May I?
[03:20:22] Unknown:
Julie, may I just say something real quick, Ketch? Julie, you answer like Brent Winters does. You take three trips around the Mulberry Bush.
[03:20:32] Unknown:
Sorry. Yeah. Yeah.
[03:20:35] Unknown:
Ideal. I'm just messing with you.
[03:20:37] Unknown:
May I say it was fair deal Friday? Did somebody mention the Ferris wheel? May may may I? Few minutes ago.
[03:20:45] Unknown:
So, Someone mentioned the Ferris wheel. To say to,
[03:20:49] Unknown:
Sherry and Julie. I appreciate it. And, some one of you men mentioned the handshake, and I'm wondering if that handshake is a Masonic banker handshake. And I will say this, securitization of, people's proximity, I think, is illegal if you get down to it, but the courts won't rule that way. Way. I yield. Thank you so much for listening to me, Julie, and and, Sherry. And, this is Sketch, the troublemaker. Oh, I'm playing that I'm playing that victimhood up real strong today, Rich.
[03:21:29] Unknown:
Well, if it's any consolation, you're a good victim.
[03:21:38] Unknown:
Did someone mention the Ferris wheel?
[03:21:43] Unknown:
Sketch.
[03:21:44] Unknown:
It goes round and round and doesn't do anything except go in circles. So imagine that.
[03:21:58] Unknown:
You'll never know how great a kiss can feel till you stop at the top of the Ferris wheel down at Palisades Park. Remember that one?
[03:22:16] Unknown:
No. To Dell. Who wrote that one?
[03:22:20] Unknown:
I don't know who wrote it. It but, it was a great a big song. Big, big song. And I can't tell you who sang it either, but I'll work on it. I'll do some research. How about that Vermont border, caper by the CIA? They've got this, transvegan cult killing seven, eight people on the way to killing this guy, border patrol agent in Coventry, Vermont up in the Northern Kingdom. At least that's the way their story goes. They're great, screenwriters. You know, they write all this narrative that's dreamed up made out of whole cloth for the consumption of the news.
News on the hour, the news and a half hour, none of it's real, not a word of it is the truth. Kill the news.
[03:23:27] Unknown:
Was that, yes,
[03:23:29] Unknown:
I didn't see that story, but was that Northern Kingdom and, like, really close to Canada, some kind of stuff up there. Yeah. You got it. Go to your YouTubes and just put in Vermont border, VT border.
[03:23:42] Unknown:
Or Those guys.
[03:23:44] Unknown:
VT border patrol agent. Put that in there and you will see the most fascinating story involving some of the weirdest mutants that and, you know, CIA has these people. These are actors. They're all actors. And they have them on their list and they call on them to make these stories for consumption. So you heard the story. Did you swallow it? Did you believe it? Did you buy it?
[03:24:15] Unknown:
You probably have I was wondering about No. I'd say Right.
[03:24:21] Unknown:
What were you wondering about? I was wondering
[03:24:23] Unknown:
about, banning paper straws that had anything to do with the straw man.
[03:24:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It's all about the straw man. Paper straws. Oh, yeah. That's how he got the idea to to to, ban paper straws from listening to the, Radio Ranch with Roger Sale and company and and friends and people in the sandbox, classmates,
[03:24:51] Unknown:
co
[03:24:53] Unknown:
cohosts like Brent Allen winners, producer coordinators like Paul, Beamer, Breamer, Dreamer something, Paul something, and company. It's a problem with Soros. You know? He's he's got four sons. So it's Soros and Sons Incorporated. Soros and Sons, both words begin and end with s. We put dollar signs for the s in sorrows. So the first letter and the last letter of sorrows and the first letter and last letter of sons before the INC or LLC if you wish. I guess LLC stands for limited liability company. It's not a corporation. It may pay taxes as if it were a corporation, but it ain't.
[03:25:54] Unknown:
They need to be in prison. They need to be in prison with a sore ass.
[03:26:03] Unknown:
He's gotta be dead soon.
[03:26:11] Unknown:
Not if he hangs on like Henry. Right?
[03:26:16] Unknown:
Well, my cellmate's name is Penis de Milo, and he always says, you know what's so fun about slinkies is when you push him down the stairs. You can watch them just fall right down there and it's so much fun.
[03:26:34] Unknown:
I picked one up the other day. They still sell them. I can't believe Slinkies are still in the market. They're like wiffle balls made in Connecticut.
[03:26:59] Unknown:
Julie, thank you for, Julie, thank you for all the hard work you've been, putting in
[03:27:06] Unknown:
recently? Local Queen of local talk radio got on an airplane yesterday to Florida out of Hartford. Well, I don't know. She sat next to a big, Politico. I can't say who it is. I was not supposed to even say that. So, would you please, strike that from the record? Pretend you didn't hear it. It's like you tell a jury. You didn't see or hear what you just saw and heard. You must ignore it as a juror. Okay. We have no judicial system.
[03:28:08] Unknown:
I wonder if we can get it back. It's always it's always good when someone brings dog food to a good feed, isn't it?
[03:29:33] Unknown:
You know, Brent, changing the subject. Brent brought up Ashcroft, and back in the day, I thought, you know, oh, yay. We got a Christian person in the White House. And, then he did something. I was like, what? I forgot what it was. It was something outrageous. Yeah. I was I was disillusioned, say the least.
[03:29:57] Unknown:
Always called that guy ass crack.
[03:30:03] Unknown:
I can't I can't I can't, believe I forgot what it was. It was outrageous.
[03:30:09] Unknown:
Annette, I think it had to do with the Patriot
[03:30:12] Unknown:
Act. Yeah. That might have been it. But the other I think there was more than one that I was outraged by.
[03:30:26] Unknown:
Anybody remember Gene Pitney?
[03:30:36] Unknown:
Context?
[03:30:41] Unknown:
He was the founder of Pitney and Bose. Don't you know?
[03:30:50] Unknown:
I know everything there is to know about Gene Pitney. I grew up with him. He lived next to my grandmother. My my aunt Lillian taught him how to curse. So we went down to Saint Bernard's school elementary school. He cursed at the nuns. The the nuns beat the living shit out of them, and he dragged himself home and up the stairs and he and as he walked into the house all bloodied up, and his father said to him, what happened to you? And he said the nuns beat me up. So what did his father do? You can get this. You can get this.
What did his parents do after finding out that the nuns beat him up? You know you wanna say it. Say it. It has to do with how far we've fallen since the days of the nuns and beatings by our parents. The answer is his parents beat him up some more. That's how it worked. Beautiful story. So he became a great but, terrific writer and singer. You, you know, you were talking about who wrote Palisades Park and who sang it, but he did both. He wrote them and he sang them. Man Who Shot Liberty Valance was his, most popular. Did you get in right away or did you?
[03:32:30] Unknown:
Julie? Anybody that's looking for that truss stuff, I I was wondering if they looked into what stamper steps were and what they thought about that.
[03:36:00] Unknown:
I haven't printed that yet, but I definitely wanna look into that. This is George Idaho. And, I definitely also want to, I was reading something about, that 30 US code. I think it was thirty one and three like that. Interesting that you can make to the treasury. So I think that was it. That was interesting. It was right below the 32. You know what I'm saying?
[03:36:33] Unknown:
Well, in Stamper's book, he's got nine steps, but there's that's in a chapter with a lot of other subjects and things going on. And I wonder you know that's some fruit from a poisonous tree. He wrote another book prior to that called High Priest of Treason. That thing's no longer in print and it's very hard to find. I wonder if he went into more detail in there because he was talking about the banking system, in that book from what I understand. Maybe he got into detail on those nine steps, but
[03:37:10] Unknown:
Are you at liberty to read nine steps or?
[03:37:14] Unknown:
No. I'm out out on a job.
[03:37:20] Unknown:
So I just Me too. That's why I was counting on on your audible your audibleness. I don't know if anybody else has it up in front of them. That'd be fun. Is it nine steps that's like over 60 pages or is it pretty summarized?
[03:37:36] Unknown:
Well, my point is he only has short little nine steps in there and a couple of pages that pertain to those nine sentences, and how you do the moves to get to the trust. And that's why I'm thinking that maybe he covered it in more detail in High Priest of Treason. And maybe that's why they buried the book. I don't know.
[03:38:03] Unknown:
K.
[03:38:24] Unknown:
Did somebody call my name? I'm sorry. I was I had I was on mute.
[03:38:33] Unknown:
Not unless you're a priest or transomist.
[03:38:37] Unknown:
Hey, Julie. It's Samuel. Yeah. I wanted to ask you if you, looked at, Stamper steps and made any sense of that.
[03:38:47] Unknown:
I haven't yet, but that's on my to do list. So I don't have the actual book itself. I have the PDF version. And I remember reading it a long time ago, and I printed it out. I was trying to find it before I reprinted it again and used all the paper and ink in my printer. I know it's somewhere, but that was on my to do list to see what, his steps were.
[03:39:12] Unknown:
Yeah. That's in the book called, Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, and I wanted just to mention that there's not a lot of detail in that book on those nine steps. However, he wrote another book called Priest of High Treason. Prior to that book, I wondered if he didn't cover it in there in more, detail, but that book is impossible to find.
[03:39:38] Unknown:
Priest of High Treason. I'll look it up. I'll see if I can find it.
[03:39:42] Unknown:
Okay. Cool. Thank you. All I wanted to add.
[03:39:49] Unknown:
I mean, there has to be a way that we can access that. There just has to be. And I I know for a fact people were paying their bills before I don't have proof, but I just my gut tells me that people were, and then they changed around the system around because too many people were finding out about it and finding out about the fraud. So, I mean, imagine just if we don't have to pay taxes and we can pay our property tax bills and our mortgages and all of our bills on using the SESQUI k v trust, then a lot of our problems are all solved solved when it comes to what they're doing with our economy.
Introduction and Host Welcome
Radio Platforms and Guest Introduction
Discussion on Long-term Radio Show Collaboration
Media and Government Influence
Historical Economic Policies and Their Impact
The Rise and Fall of Economic Hubs
The Role of Government in Economic Development
Monopolies and Government Control
Historical Political Figures and Policies
Gold and Economic Policies
Global Economic Dynamics
Common Law and Government Structure
Religion and Government Influence
International Relations and Economic Strategies
Trusts and Legal Structures
Conspiracy and Legal Implications
Listener Interaction and Closing Remarks
