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In this episode of the Global Voice Radio Network, host Roger Sales and co-host Brent Winters delve into a variety of topics ranging from the intricacies of politics to the foundational aspects of Christian beliefs. The conversation begins with a discussion on the Iteracare device and its purported health benefits, emphasizing the importance of frequency in medicine. As the show progresses, Roger and Brent explore the political landscape, touching on historical figures like Donald Trump and Abraham Lincoln, and the challenges faced by politicians in maintaining integrity amidst blackmail and corruption. They also discuss the role of women in politics and society, referencing biblical teachings and the impact of feminism and homosexuality on cultural dynamics. The episode further examines the concept of idolatry and its consequences, drawing from biblical scripture to highlight the dangers of deviating from traditional values. Throughout the discussion, the hosts emphasize the importance of adhering to biblical principles and the role of Christianity in shaping societal norms. The episode concludes with a reflection on the significance of the Bible as a foundational text and the necessity of maintaining a personal relationship with God through prayer and study.

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Thank you, Alvin.   We would too. We try to on a regular basis here at the Radio Ranch, and   today will be no exception, hopefully.   And, it is, of course, the Friday show here before,   Saturday again next week on Wednesday. Have hail Saturnalia.   And,   ordinarily, Brent is gonna be with us, and I think he's going to be   also today.   We'll see. He'll dribble in in a minute.   Roger Sales, your host here. Brent Winter's coming along as the cohost, and today is, of course, Friday.   And that is the 20th   December, only a few short days.   So, good morning, all. Paul is with us and gives all of the other,   oh, organizations   that support our message here and help carry it around the globe the credit that they   properly   deserve. Don't they, Paul?  



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Absolutely. We do love all of our,   co   all of our other platforms that pick us up and share us to their audiences.   We are on   radiosoapbox.com,   Tuesdays through Fridays for the first hour.   We're on 106.9   WBOU,   7   5 days a week, Mondays through Friday.   We're on Eurofolks Radio.com,   6 days a week. That is our flagship,   stream. Thanks to pastor Eli James.   We're on Global Voice Network   Monday through Saturday.   It's my pet project.   WDRN   production, Fort Collins, Colorado brings us,   not only WVOU   through,   business relationship they have, but also home network dot TV, freedom nation dot TV,   stream life   dot tube and co live   TV.  

You'll find links to Eurofoc and Global Voice on the website,   the matrix docs.com.   That's the matrix, d o c s dot com,   as well as the free conference call links to join   us by dial up telephone,   tablet, smartphone,   computer,   carrier pigeon. Well, no. Not not really.   Moran, Raj.  

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That'd be a pretty good name for a a a platform pick carrier pigeon.   Good morning, Paul, and Francine is aboard, of course, Brent's producer. I don't know if Brent showed up or not. He will in a minute.   I'm anxiously awaiting,   the day when we get someone   from, over there in Paul's Island territory   that is tuned into this somehow over there on radio soapbox and   goes, what? What are you guys talking about? Can I do that? Does it apply to me? We hadn't had that yet, but we may one of these days.  

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We may.  

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So anyway, who who knows? Occasionally, on Fridays,   the the big orchestrator, mister English, Paul English shows up. We don't know. He he's been prognosticated   to do so this week, but, occasionally, he does. Just out of thin air. So, anyway, we'll, launch off into the, Friday show.   Again, Brent is not with us yet. I can hardly see up there. No. He is.   He is with us. Hey, Brent. Oh, good. Yeah. Like I said, just comes. He's kinda slips in the side door there. Morning,  

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Brent. Morning, Roger. Hope all is well with you. Yeah. Pretty good. He  

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yeah. Down the equator, I was gonna say. On the equator, and it's mighty pretty, and, we're not experiencing any of the frigidity that some of the   country is. And, it's kinda nice, but,   yep. We're here just to   oh, just it's   just pleasant,   Brent.   You had a good week, have you?  

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Yeah.   I, as long as I'm not in jail, I'm North of dirt. I'm happy. Okay. Well, that's 2 good criteria.   I just noticed that,   Trump's   when you look at Trump's DJ   Trump's,   entourage,   that crowd around him,   strange bedfellows.   Yes. It's all hidden from everywhere in ways that have not happened in a long time. Very true.   I, I don't know.   Maybe it's never happened just like this, but   the folk that crowd around him, he's the focal point.   Now I keep saying   that there's a danger   when everybody likes   you. That's when you're in danger.  

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Okay.  

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And so,   right now he's riding high. I don't think he's,   I don't think he's,   naive enough to think that   that,   there's really any meaning in popularity.   I think that he's been at it long and then what's happened to him   as beat him up pretty bad. And then he, when he got in the first time, the truth is,   he couldn't do much. They had him   for,   politically because he couldn't, he couldn't say what he really wanted to say   and expect not to be crucified worse than he was crucified.   But they went after I'd never heard of in history,   anybody going after a president like for Trump, but they didn't go after,   Abe Lincoln.  

Like, they did kill him. They just went ahead and killed him. Well, that was a little bit different, but they didn't,   didn't try to   indict him. Now Tom Jefferson tried that.   Tom Jefferson was a vicious SOB when he wanted to be, and he tried to indite and have hung   the fellow that run for vice president and did he became vice president   and he wanted to run for president again. He was grandson   of,   he was grandson   of, Jonathan Edwards,   by the way.   Jonathan Edwards of,   he was 2nd president of Princeton   and he was called the greatest   mind that America ever produced.  

And,   his name was Aaron Burr. Aaron Burr was grandson to Jonathan Edwards. Oh. He was,   also the man that shot and killed,   Alexander Hamilton.   And, we probably should be thankful for that.   Funny thing about Hamilton, you know, when Hamilton, he, they were both lawyers in New York City and New York City wasn't   the giant metropolis it is now, but it was big.   And, if you,   if you're a lawyer and there are no other lawyers around, you can't make any money. You know, you got takes 2 lawyers to make money,   and, lawyers have to be at each other's throat in order to make money. And if there's 2 prominent trial lawyers in a town like New York City,   they made money together.  

They that was Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr,   but at the same time they hated each other because they were diametrically   opposed   politically.   Aaron Burr was an archconservative   American patriot,   and he was against bankers and other such   scum,   like DJ Trump is.   Well, Tom Jefferson and him, I think they ran at the same time. I can't remember.   Things were a little different than with the electoral college. And so   you didn't run with a running mate. The guy that came in second became vice president or something like that. That's right. Well,   Burr or,   Jefferson got in. When Jefferson got in, he was a vicious, vicious man. He he acted in office or whatever else good he did. And but when he got in office, he was all about power and he was gonna crush all of his opponents.  

He misused the presidency that way.   Again,   none of us are Jesus Christ and he wasn't either. And that's why I say we watch all these fellows that God uses like Tom Jefferson. God used him for good things, but then turn around and, and do some of the pull, some of the shenanigans he pulled downright deadly. Well, he said, I gotta get rid of Aaron Burr. I'm gonna, of course he wanted to pack all the courts with his,   his choices   and he was vicious about that. But he   he got, him being the president, you know, the president's in charge of the US attorneys. He tells him who he wants to prosecute.   US attorneys aren't really lawyers.  

They don't exercise any independent judgment. They don't they don't even get appointed to the job of US attorney unless they promise to prosecute certain people. That's the way it is now. I had a friend,   well, I still have him. He's a retired judge now, but he threw his hat in   to be US attorney   when Bush   when,   George Bush was president.   And,   they he came in for the interview,   and they said, are you willing to prosecute it to governor?   That was the first question out of their mouth. Well, the governor was, yeah, the governor was Republican,   a faithful Republican.  

And,   but, Bush didn't like him. Yeah. That was he had he did 2 things that nobody liked and on the left, nobody on the left liked him for these two things. Number 1,   he   put together a meeting with Fidel Castro, and he told Fidel,   he said,   when,   if   the general government in Washington DC ever lifts   the   ban on trade between   the United States and Cuba,   we want you to keep us in mind in our state, and we got a lot of agricultural products you could use.   He didn't violate any laws. He just said if the ban is ever lifted, then   he went home and he put a moratorium on the death penalty.  

And he told the prosecutors   in the state   and the attorney general and everybody involved   and the courts.   He told he told them both, he said until there is   proof in every   case that you're where you put a man on death row until there's proof   that you followed due process.   That is our common law. That's what our common law is, due process.   He said, I'm not gonna execute anybody in prison that's on death row.   And for those two movements,   those two things he said and did,   they prosecuted him. The feds prosecuted him and sent him to prison. And that was the end of that. And he stayed there for 5 years about,   well,   yeah. No.  

Was after this guy. This guy's name was George Ryan.  

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Oh, yeah. In Illinois. Same state.  

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He was George Ryan   was the man who single handedly stopped   the civil rights or no the what was it? The not the civil rights, the   equal rights amendment to be in a part of the constitution. Mhmm. He's the one who popped it. I never heard anybody say that. I don't know why.   There's political reasons for it, I suppose. But he was speaker of the house, and they only needed one more state legislature to vote to pass it, and they only needed one more vote in the state legislature to do it. See, that's how majorities work. Very dangerous. Mhmm.   And, he was speaker of the house,   and he held the vote up   until he had the lawful power to do that until they thought they had a good chance of blocking it,   and they did.  

And,   he said that was another thing they didn't like him for. But,   you know, no matter how long you're in politics, you think you understand, you think your season like him, he started out   small town,   county board and city government and all that state legislature,   secretary of state. He thought he knew all the ropes. He did not know how vicious   the left could be. And DJ Trump didn't know either. And nobody knows until you, they bring, they bring the force down on you and throw your carcass in jail or try to kill you or something like they've done to DJ. They tried all that.   But it, if, if they can't stop you and they,   if they can't stop you,   they'll,   try to humiliate you. If they can't humiliate you, they'll try to indite you. If they can't indite you, they'll try to kill you.  

That's the game. And it's that way at the state level,   state legislators,   and it's that way at the federal level.   It's not a game   for girls.   And if any man is stupid enough to send his wife into that kind of an environment, he ought to be horse   whipped.   He ought to be horse whipped. And I know men that do that. It's very popular for the girls to do that. Of course, they can control them. And that's what's happening with the girls. They don't they don't do things like George Ryan did. They're not of that ilk.   They wanna get along and love each other and all that. Well, of course, that has a proper place too.  

But this but the US attorneys are there for political reasons.   And, that's been true for US attorneys for many decades going back in the 1800.   And that brings us up. That brings us   to the Scofield reference Bible. I can't remember what we talked about last year. How is it   that a broken down fellow that has no training at all, no training at all,   No experience. Never   worked as a lawyer to mount to nothing.   Become   US attorney for the territory of Kansas.   That's what that's what c I Scofield was.   US attorney for the territory of Kansas, but it's controlled by   by money. And how is it that an unknown man like that, again, no training in law,   no training in theology,   no training in nothing, abandoned his wife, and all of a sudden Oxford University Press   publishes a Bible and says that he's the one that put all the foot all the footnotes in it. And it became  

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it over the English speaking. How does that happen? I don't know, but he's got better attributes than Jesus because even after his death, those notes continue to be updated.  

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Well, we used to say   I used to hear people say, but it's a famous song, a Christian hymn, and it's a good hymn, and it goes like this.   My hope is built on nothing less   than Jesus' blood and righteousness.   I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus' name. Now that was for you lovers a great music. I know that probably hurts your ears, but  

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Don't don't quit don't quit your day job is what they say. I won't.  

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My hope is built on nothing less, but Jesus blood and righteousness.   Now that is biblical,   but I used to hear people say my hope is built on nothing less than Schofield's notes and Moody press. Oh. That's what that's what people in the,   still many of them depend on, but that's silly. It was silly then. It's sillier now because Moody presses   they're woke or something. I don't know what they are. When Oxford came over and published that,  

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they opened up bookstores   in the United States. They'd never had any before.   And the only thing they sold was the Scofield Bible, and that was out of Oxford University   over there across the pond.  

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Yeah.   And how does that happen, Roger? Well, it happens only. What were you gonna say, Roger? Do you know how The Lotus Club, Untermyer  

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is evidently the moving force at the end of the   excuse me, the 1800   on that, and he got him into, moved him to New York,   picked him up and plucked him out all the problems he was in,   ex families and   no child support money or support of his family and his children or whatever. Yeah. And, they plucked him up, and that was Untermyer.  

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Yep.   Yep. Yep. And, of course, the school field notes supported   the dispensational   point of view that encouraged   Zionism   and a whole lot of things. Well and then out of that, so   CI Scofield,   he was nobody. He's like rock and roll stars. You you find out that they were abused as children sexually, and they they don't know who their father and their mothers are, but somebody can take people like that or like Barack Obama. Nobody knows where he came from. They put him in the president's of the United States and promoting   to do their bidding.  

He is their man. He's a sex pervert and I don't mean a little bit. He is a sex pervert to the hilt and they can get him to do anything they want him to do because he is a pervert.   And that's why, of course,   as that one fellow who was it said, oh,   the famous, Tucker Carlson.   There's nobody in congress. Nobody. I've been there 40 years. He said there's nobody in Congress. I don't care how conservative they are perceived to be.   That is not compromised.   And that means that they are black mailable,   black mailable.   And the left will do anything   to blackmail those going into office. I was I ran for office. I I was there for a number of years.  

I did everything a fellow could do, spent a lot of money, and I tell stories about it. And for those of you that have heard my stories,   I try to preface my stories with an apology if you've heard this story before. I don't wanna end up like those older fellows that I've always known that tell the same stories over and over again. Well,   I I probably do. But these are,   instructive stories when it comes to blackmail.   And I could tell you the stories about how it all happened. I remember when I first   blackmail was the name of the game, but I didn't know it. See. And I went to   one of the bastions of the party there   and, Wayne County and I talked to wimpy weedman wimp. We called him wimp, wimp wimp wiedman.  

Well, wimp wiedman was the chairman of the Republican party in Wayne County.   And, there were no government offices in Wayne County. I think there's a driver's license examination   station, but no other government facilities,   nothing but oil wells and coal mines and   a lot of farming.   So it's a different kind of an environment in some places,   but I sat down with Wimp. I told him what I wanted to do, and he said, well,   he said you're the right age. He said,   I think this is good. I'll support you, but he said, I want you to understand something. He said,   you're gonna be at a big get together here. I don't know when, whether it'd be in a week or a month or 2 months or 6 months.  

And some woman's gonna charge right up to you with liquor on her breath,   and, she's gonna be buxom with,   a big, bosoms   and she's gonna,   and there'll be a lot of people standing around. She's going to say, where's that money you owe me for last night?   And,   if you don't know what to do when that happens, you're going to get hurt.   And I said, Oh, wimp. I said,   are you sure? He said, Oh no, I'm sure. I said, how are you sure?   He said, look, I've been in this game a long time. And he said, I'm sure because if, if I would do it,   if I would give   a big busted woman,   a flask of whiskey   and a $100 to do it, don't you think that the Democrats would go do it? I said, what are you saying? He said, well yeah, I've done it so I know they'll do it.  

And,   I began to understand what politics was all about.   Well, in that particular county, there wasn't any Democrat party that had any influence at all. Matter of fact, they said we only let Democrats   in the courthouse for two reasons,   to pay their land taxes and,   and if they're being prosecuted before the jury. That's it. That we don't let them in other that was the saying in that county.   Well, when you have one party in a county that's powerful, that one party will split into 2 parties.   And there were some counties out of the 27 I ran in were like that.   And, because people always wanna have a fight going, that's what politics is all about. So there was the official Republican party that the state recognized,   and then there was the unofficial Republican party that the state they had their own precinct committiments, their own Lincoln dateners, their own organization,   and a red headed fellow who was a cousin to Blackie Harris   ran the party.  

Now Blackie Harris   was the henchman   slash assassin   for the,   for the Shelton brothers.   Well, we people called it the mall Shelton gang because   but it was 5 brothers and mall Shelton, their mother was in charge of the gang   and they moved across the river from Kentucky   and, set up shop at what is now the county fairgrounds and they had a compound there   and they ran all the,   the liquor, illegal liquor and prostitution   and that, and,   in that part of the world   eventually then the fellow worked for him who was a Jewish immigrant named Charlie Berger and he,   Charlie,   then he got big enough and tough enough. He thought he'd compete with him, and he tried to take over, and then the war really started.  

And,   things got really bad. People got killed a lot. That's what happened, but they were trying to tap into all the coal miners and,   oil Johnny's that had paychecks that were looking for liquor and back when that's how it all started. But they, of course, after prohibition,   they got into other things, you know, well, blacky Harris,   he took the fall for him a few times. He was still there, but he had a, did I say nephew or cousin? I don't remember. I think it was a cousin   and his name, well everybody called him the banty rooster cause he was red headed and he was short and feisty,   But he's a, he was the unofficial Republican party,   chairman there. And he, he ran the, he ran the county that the official Republican party didn't have any clout by comparison because they weren't well organized. He was a shaker and mover.  

But that happened to me then when I was at a we used to have what they called,   oh,   down in that part of the world, they called them,   shucks, names slipped me, but what they do is they get a big, big butchering kettle, big iron butchering kettle that hold about   30 gallon.   And everybody in that part of the world, every little church had,   had, had this and every little town and every little,   every little podunk everywhere. Even the I say the churches out in the country, they had these this every year,   and,   people would bring at the end of the year all the garden   green beans and beets and taters and that whatever,   And they threw them in this butchering kettle, and then they'd bring,   skin   and butchered rabbits and squirrels and   pork and beef and whatever, everything.  

Chowder. They call them chowders. Very popular.   And I tried to find out, and I've you you grow up around stuff like that. You wonder where's all this come from when you get older. I never could find out, and I I studied pretty hard and try to figure out where it came from. It wasn't like clam chowder, that chowder, that kind of stuff. It was just all it was. We called it hobo stew. Everybody brought what they had and throw it in there and then they'd mix it up in this big, and then they'd sell it by the gallon   and keep cooking it.  

And it was a big event and hundreds of people would come even in these small towns. It was like a reunion,   annual reunion in these little and the churches they'd have homecoming at that time, which I understood where that came from. That that came from holy week and that came from the Cairn Ridge revival in the east Kentucky back in, early 1800   long story behind that, but we do that stuff.   And I was at one of these at a place called Bone Gap.   And I was at this there must have been 5 between 500 and a 1000 people there. Now that's bigger than the town of Bone Gap by several times over.   But everybody comes where they want the chowder, and also it's like a homecoming. All the folks that left home and went to the big city to get a job and come home.  

And I was talking to this fellow who was telling me kind of   a interesting well, he wasn't, he said he was one of about   a 100   men that looked like Douglas MacArthur   looked like Douglas MacArthur, and they picked them out of the ranks of the army that looked like Douglas MacArthur, and they got them all together and they said, okay,   your, fellows are gonna be hanging around with Douglas MacArthur. And they tried to   show him how Douglas MacArthur walked   and how he looked and the uniform made, they had to wear a uniform like Douglas MacArthur. And the reason they did that was so if Douglas MacArthur was ever   out where there were snipers, they wouldn't know who to shoot. See. And he was telling me he was one of those men and he'd go everywhere Douglas MacArthur went during the war. It fascinated story. A matter of fact, he was, as they say, kinda holding court there because, everybody was interested in listening to his story. And I was talking he was talking mainly to me because he found out I was running for office, but a lot of the fellows were around and   here then it happened, Roger.  

And   and,   here come   a big bosomed gal with a halter top on,   charged right up through the crowd, had liquor on her breath, got right up in my glamour, right up in my face.   And she said, where's that money you owed me for last night?   And, I'm politic enough and I acclimated enough to know how to handle a lot of situations.   And I knew the first thing I needed to do was just be nice. And I said,   now which money you're talking to? What which money you're talking about?   And she and I had my hands up talking to her. I had one hand up and she slapped my hand down and said, you know what? The h e double l I'm talking about that money for last night. Where is it?   And,   I said, I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. And she said, you know,   you're gonna be a man or not, she said, and drunk as a drunk as, Cooter Brown. You're gonna be a man or not?  

And I said, well,   Susan's over here.   I've been married to her a few decades. Ask her if you, if she thinks I'm a man, I was trying to divert the thing, you know,   and she said, I don't want to hear that. And then she cussed some more.   And I leaned over to my buddy who was from bone gap, that my close friend,   and I whispered   in his era said, you take over, I'm out of here. And I, I didn't walk.   I darted out of there and ran.   And but I thought I was running pretty fast.   But while I was talking to whispering to my friend, Danny,   she had hightailed it down over the hill where the cars were parked, and I saw her   throwing,   gravel and and sod trying to get out of the parking lot. She finally scared and and ran, but as it worked out, fortunately,   there wasn't any,   any off fall from the press. There were no apparently newspapers there to see it.  

Well,   she did. She got her $100 or flask of whiskey, and she did her job.   Then I was   at the governor's picnic at the state fair. They have a governor's picnic at the state fair, of course. It's a big event for the party,   and I showed up,   and,   I was over, getting a glass of water. They had cold ice water there with summertime.   And, I was with my I called by that time, I had a,   a very large fellow who was a close friend,   Jim, Jim Runyon. He's gone now. He passed away, but   he went everywhere I went. He drove me around and he was right beside me just in case anything stupid happened. I had started doing that.   You find out that's the way it has to be done.  

And so   I was getting a glass of water and these 2 girls walked up and they were without question the most gorgeous girls I've ever seen in my life. And with the exception of my wife, of course,   she'd better look into them, but they were they were handsome creatures and   they tried to talk to Jim and I and started giggling and   carrying on. And of course, they were skimply dressed as well.   And, I was of course, you wanna try to be nice. You don't just put people off. You you try to put them off in a nice way and they were trying to talk to us. And finally I, I said, now look girls.   I said, I can't be seen talking to you for a very important reason.  

And they said, what's that? I said, well, you're just too good looking.   And I said, Jim, we gotta go. Let's go. So we,   Jim had my back, we left   and then the,   this, the congressional district chairman's son came to me.   He said, what are you doing? Now this is the re the party, the Republican party congressional   chairman's son, 27 counties. It was a big district,   but his son,   don't remember him. He was kind of a redheaded fellow. Well, kind of Auburn headed,   had an interesting name. I won't say it here,   but he said,   what are you doing?  

I said, what do you mean? What am I doing?   He said, those girls. I said, yeah, what about them?   I said, I got it. I got away from them. He said, well, we sent those girls over there for you and you're blowing it.   So you got to see, you got it in the party too. And it goes further than that.   So they were trying to get in the party was trying to get me compromised.   The Democrats   had tried to get me compromised. And then I go to this big meeting and this old   riverboat   captain's   house. It was, he was rich. It was an old house down on the Ohio river,   and it was a mansion, like a Southern mansion down there.  

And,   the, there was a family down there that made a fortune renting   buildings, property to the state. Of course, the state would pay them about 3 times, 4 times what they were worth, and they were millionaires.   They buy property and they had connections, and they'd rent it as long as their party was in office. See?   And when the other party got in office, they'd lose their leases, then they'd have to rent they'd rent to the democrats. That's the way Paul it's terrible what goes on. Well,   I was walking to this political meeting. The governor was supposed to be there and all that,   and you wanna show up, you know, and I'm walking in and   my   my wife, Susan's with me,   and we're walking up the sidewalk to this great big fancy mansion.  

It was right on the river.   Beautiful   setting.   And a friend came out and she was, one of the Christian crowd down there, and she said,   you're going in. Right? Yeah. I said, yeah. And,   she said, well, be careful. She said, because they got cameras in every room.   I said they got cameras in every room for what?   I just wanted to hear what she'd say. I knew what it was. Blackmail. They tried to get you in a compromising position. Now this is the party.   Not not not the Democrats, the Republicans.   I said, okay. I said, Susan, you just take hold of my arm and do not let go of me. You know, put your arm in mind.   We're gonna walk in, go through every room, make an appearance, say hi to everybody and leave before anything bad happens.  

Well, that's the way we handled that one.   But   there were things that were happening that were even worse than that. I could tell you stories, but, well, I had,   well, I won't tell you the rest of the stories.   Not not now, but just to make the point. Politics   is nothing   nothing   but blackmail. And it comes down to sex, drugs,  

[00:34:58] Unknown:

the rock and roll doesn't figure in that much, but sex and drugs. I just want Oh, no. Oh, no. The rock and roll figures in now. Okay. It's called it's called rap, and the guy is named p Diddy,   and he basically was the black Jeffrey Epstein.  

[00:35:14] Unknown:

Thank you, Roger. See, now when I was doing this, it's been a few decades back, that wasn't   as prominent.   But, of course, I know you know rock and roll as good as anybody in on the planet. And, I'm not sure about that. Well, you did it one time. I can tell you that it's very interesting that as that has come out,  

[00:35:33] Unknown:

the finger was pointed at a guy that was extremely influential   when I was in the record business back in the seventies. Now that's 50 years ago. Yeah. More. Okay? Yeah.   And his name, he ran   CBS   at that time. He was a legend   in the seventies.   Okay? Yeah. And his name is Clive Davis.   And that has come out that he was the guy that was running p ditty and all these,   quote, unquote, parties.  

[00:36:04] Unknown:

Well, then it has its it has its influence. There's no question about that, but it's not rock and roll anymore. No. It's,   and that's pretty pretty sorted stuff.  

[00:36:15] Unknown:

Yeah. And it's not even music. It's rhythms.  

[00:36:18] Unknown:

Yeah. I get it. No. I'm with you. It's, aboriginal and African.  

[00:36:22] Unknown:

Yes. Oh, well. Pretty much.  

[00:36:24] Unknown:

Yeah, well that's what politics is. And so when people talk about politics and they talk about, well   what this fellow said or that fellow said, I just   shake my head to myself. I don't fight with people. And I say, that don't mean nothing what they say.   It's absolutely   meaningless.   If there is a felony in office that's trying to do the right thing, and there are some always, you know, trying to do the right thing. Right. They have very little influence. They just give   in office, they give people hope. Yeah. That.   Now  

[00:36:54] Unknown:

You know, the interesting thing is there are,   of a couple of the, quote, good old boys that are doing the right thing are girls.   And one of them would be Marjorie Taylor Greene from North   West Georgia.   And the other is this gal out of Florida named Maryapaluna   Luna or something,   and she's a little bulldog.   So there are some like here. You know? I mean, some of our most,   active enthusiastic   participants here are the females.   And as I've said many times, 30 years ago in the Patriot meetings,   man, a single female was   was like a a shark's tooth. You know?  

And,   if any of those gals want to find a husband, all they had to do is come to a patriot meeting because there just wasn't very many of them. There's a few wives,   but there's hardly any single females. And, man, look at the the type a lionesses we've got around here. Of course, you're not around here all the time, Brent, and you don't know. But believe me, we got some tremendous type a lionesses.  

[00:37:59] Unknown:

Well, I I get what you're saying, Roger, and I know that they're loyal, and I know that they're faithful, and I know that they're   they're very they have energy and can do things men don't do, but it's the judgment of God that that's not I know. I understand.   As well as I do. So I don't I don't promote the idea. And, of course, when women do that, it's it always starts out the cons they have a conservative like Ronald Reagan appointed a conservative   to the Supreme Court. Well, that didn't last very long. Next thing you know, you got lesbians, and that's what she got. Yeah. And she wasn't a conservative, by the way. She just appeared to be like 1. She didn't know what she was doing, and it's a fad now.   And I don't wanna be a part of it. I've watched what happens in politics. I know we how dangerous it is,   and girls think that and the guys encourage them. They like it. Oh, they love it. Why? But it brings women into the into their purview, and they can abuse them even more, and that's what's happening. Don't think it isn't. And the bulldogs that we have in office are doing a great disservice. They don't know it. They think they're good gals,   but they're doing a great disservice cause they're encouraging other girls to do the same thing and it just gets worse. And then pretty soon it becomes a movement of lesbians.  

I've watched it for years, all my life. I remember when we were having children, this is how this works.   We were having children. It's very dangerous.   We had midwives   a few times deliver some of our children.   Some of them didn't get weren't able to get there and I ended up delivering them. That was quite a   fascinating   experience and story in those cases.   But,   they, when we were in, Missouri,   my wife is a registered nurse,   and she quit working when we got married, and she hadn't worked as one since, but she did work as a midwife,   for a while, and she got involved with,   with,   a group of gals in Missouri there where we were   who were trying to encourage girls to,   of course, nurse their babies and   and, the Leccia League was part of it, and then, of course, the   the encouragement to not,   go to the doctors as much and go to   as much and go to midwives more because women understand women, and they can they can do a good job. I've I've What did you call that? The Lilece League?  

Lilece League is the it's a name it's a an organization that was formed to encourage women to not feed formula to their babies. Uh-huh. Good deal. Well, I I it caught me because leche is milk in Spanish. Yeah. There you go. Okay. You got it. Yeah. La leche.   La leche. Why that they use that name. I don't know what they just say, the milk lid. You know?   Yeah. But something fancy, you know, get people's attention. But,   and it's important. And I understand that, being off the farm, I understand that if you don't get first milk into a calf   or a pig or a goat or any other critter,   they will it'll be a detriment to them to that degree.  

And then plus nursing,   when I say first milk, that's called the colostrum.   Yes. But the first milk will give them antibodies that, plus a whole lot of other things we don't even know about. Yep. Very important. Oh, you can raise up animals without it and they'll and people too, you know, but,   that's what the Leccia league was about. Well, the midwifery   organization,   before long,   did took a few years, but then lesbians were running it. Lesbians were running.   Now, how does that happen? Well, if you got a bunch of gals and you bring in more gals and they're running things, then,   that's the influence that will come in. I am not saying that it has to be that way, but don't tell me that in that way in politics, it is. We've got folks on the benches of our courts are that way now, females   and males, by the way.  

Where does let's let's stop and think about this and we can talk about   what does God say?   Quit speculating   and just say, what does God say about how   homosexuality   happens in a culture?   Not, not whether it's right or wrong, but does God tell us how it happens? And the answer is yes.   In-depth   detail.   He instructs us how it happens.   It happens   the first step in a culture   that becomes   shot through with homosexuality   is   Romans chapter 1 lays the steps out,   The female of the species   leaves   her natural   function as a female.   That's where it begins.  

You know,   we saw, we see in, mental health organizations   madness of course. And when there's a lot of madness, then the people that have madness in their families get together, and they form mental health organizations.   Mhmm. I've been around a lot of this stuff. I just And before the homosexuals came on the scene, feminism was there, wasn't it? Feminine? Yes. And in in in when yes. Now I'm getting to that, Roger. Thank you. You're ahead of me. You've seen this too. I mean, we're on the same track and playing here. When there's insanity,   what they call they don't know what it is. Medi medicine. It's just a bunch of labels, schizophrenia   and all that. When all that happens, you say, well, there was a dominant female in the family,   a mother,   and you see that consistently.  

They deny it. And then there's homosexuality   that goes with it. Dominant female. Those are nice words. No, we're talking about a hussy   going to run everything and beat her husband down and that kind of stuff. Well, does that happen?   Oh yeah. Happens all the time.   Well, what happened in the garden of Eden?   Did our grandma beat down our grandpa? No, no, no. That's not the way it always works.   Sometimes it's just, well, I think we ought to do this and the hubby doesn't want to pick up responsibility   and his nice sweet wife just makes the decisions and on they go, and he's over here in the man cave drinking beer or whatever he does or playing golf.   That's a nice one. And the the the his wife's a nice lady, and she runs organizations in the community, and the ladies aid down the church, and then they get to run-in the church. Where does homosexuality   come from? Well, Romans one says, that's where it comes from. It doesn't have to be ugly. It can appear very nice, but there's a confusion there. See who's, who's running, who's really in charge here. And little boys grow up in that kind of a world and little girl girls grow up in that kind of a   world. And over time, it doesn't take, but a few generations, you've got real problems and that's what's happened in America.  

That's what's happened everywhere. It's all over the world.   Well, should women do the things they do?   The answer is no. No, they shouldn't. Well, who's at fault? Now listen to the answer. Who's at fault?   Our our grandpa Adam was at fault.   Men, we are at fault. It's not our wives. It's not the women. The Bible does not lay the lay the fault to the women's feet. It did not let or the God did not lay the fault   to   Eve's   feet. She was doing what she thought was right. She really didn't know she was doing wrong. That's the way it starts.   Sandra Day O'Connor thought it was wonderful that she'd be appointed to the Supreme Court. She thought she'd be doing a service to her country. She was flattered that, Ronald Reagan appointed her as appointed as it as it turned out, she did. She wasn't a conservative. She doesn't know. They didn't know what she was doing. She'd never even practiced law for crying out loud. She didn't know her,   backside from a $17   sunbonnet.  

She was just up there playing like she had a wonderful career. How wonderful this all is. No. It's not wonderful.   And of course, that encourages other people to get involved until you get to the point. Not very many years later. What do you got? Well, you got a lot of sexually confused people on the highest bench of the land. That's what you got. And the ones that aren't sexually confused,   support the ones that are. And they think that's okay and make rulings in their favor.   This is what's happening. So who's following who? Well, the man on the court are following the women, a lot of them. Not all of them, but some of them. And that caused them more problems. What is our problem, man? We're the problem. What is it? I'll tell you what the problem is. Let's put it simply. Let's put it and just quote the Bible.   God said to Adam, after that debacle in the garden, he said, because   you   followed   your wife.  

That's that's what he said. You didn't take up your responsibility to take care of your wife. You let her make the decisions.   You and you knew better. She didn't know better. You did. She was just trying to pick up the slack because you wouldn't. Why are these women in office? They're saying, well, if nobody else is gonna gonna speak out, I'm going to, I'm going to pick up the slack. Why do women run churches?   Because, well, if the men aren't going to do it, I am. Somebody's got to pick up the slack. Now listen to me, girls, you'd be better off just saying no   and not picking up the slack. It would do your country a greater service by not picking up the slack because that would, if anything,   force   your husband into making decisions.  

And your husband said, well, you're not doing what you used to do. You're not making the decision. No, you're going to have to make the decisions. You know what would happen with that? What if that, if that were done in mass, a critical mass of that, I'll tell you what would happen.   I'll tell you what would happen.   There'd be a lot of hardship in America. A lot of hardship.   Women would go through hardship. Men would go through hardship.   There'd be marriages break up.   It would be really bad, but you know, God is more interested,   more interested in fundamental right and wrong.  

And how fundamental can you get? That's the first narrative in the Bible. He's more interested in fundamental right and wrong than, and the results are his business, not, not ours.   So So yeah, there's going to be hardship. There always is when people do right. When people do right,   the hate will really begin in earnest at that point.   And the, the, and the hate will come against those that insist upon doing fundamental right. I'm just giving you the testimony of an old guy that been watching all these years, and,   I've been studying the Bible hard for decades. And then I look around, and I said, this is my conclusion for what it's worth. I'm not trying to shove it down anybody's throat or   up,   Roger, you still there?  



[00:48:10] Unknown:

I had my mute on, Brent. I was just letting you run, buddy. Make sure I just wanna make sure that I wasn't talking to the keeper. No. Yeah. I know. You feel it's like you dropped the rock down the well and it never hits the bottom. Go ahead. Alright. Well,  

[00:48:24] Unknown:

to put it bluntly, folks, to put it bluntly,   Roger knows me.   For some reason, and I don't credit myself for this.   I think that, God has slapped me down hard   and he said, you're going to be a biblicist in all things if I can get it out of you.   And when I, when I, when I stray from the Bible and I know it well enough to know a lot about it, I don't know everything, but I, I do know a lot.   And when I stray from it, he didn't allow it.   And this is not some minute thing. This is the fundamental thing of government   is the role of men and women and the destruction of our country. Homosexuality.  

That's where that's how it starts.   Go read Romans chapter 1. Matter of fact, maybe ought to be just   fair here, Roger. And if you'll talk for just a minute, I will read real quick. Well, I'll be anxious to hear what you're gonna  

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read us out of the winterized  

[00:49:19] Unknown:

version there. Oh, yeah. Well, thank you for saying that. I I picked up King Jimmy's version, and and no. No. I need to read the winner. It's just right here. Well, he was one of them, so you don't need to be reading that one.  

[00:49:33] Unknown:

But the the minute you launched off on this and you said the women get,   away from their traditional roles,   First thing I thought was a glorious item, quite frankly.   And there wasn't a whole lot of,   fudge packers around back then.   You know?   But boy, it's sure grown from that.  

[00:49:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Well,  

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yeah, it's gotten worse. It was always there. It's always there among mankind. Yeah. When it was in the closet, it was still okay. Just just stay in the closet. I don't wanna be confronted with it. Well, now they've got an activist.   See? And they're they're gonna they're not only gonna confront   you with it. You can't get away from them confronting you with it.   No. No. And you have to cheer them on, brother.   They want you they want your approval of what they're doing publicly.   And Yeah. And that's Could you   could you stay away? I'd you know, just stay away from from me. You wanna go do that? That's fine. Just don't put it in my face because I ain't gonna take it.  



[00:50:32] Unknown:

No. They'll yeah. But like it and it says that in Romans 1, we must approve. We must give the King James says we must give hearty approval. Well, let me read here. We'll start with   the 18th verse. He gets the preliminaries out of the way. By the way, the book of Romans is Paul, the Apostle's epistle   to the Italian Christians of Rome. That's what I like to call it.   And,   he,   he does the book of Romans is the most   detailed   unpacking   of the great gospel of God, the good spell   of God as opposed to the bad spell, the blessed not not the not the curse, the bad spell, but the good spell.   That's what the gospel is, and to understand what it is   is to understand everything.  

And if you wanna know what the gospel is, read this book. Now the book of Galatians   tracks with the book of Romans, but the book of Galatians is short   to the point and emotional   because Paul is so upset at these   kilts that live in the center of Asia minor.   But Romans,   he'd never met these Romans. He'd never been there and he's writing to them. And so he's rather   instructive. He's very pedagogical. He's teaching. He is the prosecuting   attorney. He is the the logician,   the logician   in this book.   Verse 17,   chapter 1, Romans, I'm reading from the winterized   translation of the Bible says, for in fact,   the law giver's right headedness is laid bare   out of trust evidence,   into trust evidence, like as it has been put to writing. Quote, he quotes here,   a right headed man shall live out of trust to evidence.  

The famous,   the famous,   translation   again, King Jimmy says the just or the justified man   shall live by faith, not by works.   That was the foundation   of the reformation   and the throwing off of the yoke of Rome in   in Europe. That was Martin Luther's favorite verse. This is a quote out of the old testament,   the prophets. For in fact, the law giver sure footed swelling revenge is laid bare from the sky   up against each and every slighting of God.   It doesn't say up and and up against, God's not against each and every   each and every heinous sin. No, he says he's up against each and every   slighting of God   who doesn't slight God, who doesn't ignore him, who doesn't talk to him for days on end. Maybe you   That's called slighting God. Like the Bible says, do not slight father or mother. That's what that Hebrew word means. It doesn't honor. That's good. That's, yeah, that's accurate, but it's, it's a very weak word. It doesn't take much to offend God because he's perfect. And We don't even understand we can't comprehend   perfection   and hurtful bad of namely men for the man holding down the proven fact by hurtful bad.  

Boy, do you see that in the courts   holding down the truth   with with hurtful bad thoroughly because law giver's firsthand knowledge is highlighted law giver's God. That's what that word means. That was final arbiter of right and wrong and individual instances   from whose decision there is no appeal.   For in fact, the law giver highlighted it to them. Now he's starting out here talking about the people that live in the 14th century in the deep dark jungles of Africa. Yeah. How could God send them to hell   when they've never even had a chance to hear the gospel? Well, he's explaining that right here.  

He says, for in fact,   God's unseeableness   from city law orders creation are in as much as seen being thought through to the bottom line by the makings made both as everlasting   non stoppable and stoppableness   and shown   law givership   into them,   they are defenseless.   What's he talking about? He's talking about the Aboriginal people that don't have any contact with Christianity.   He says they know who the creator is.   They know   God has shown them.   They see it in nature. They see it in the skies.   They see the design of everything that's made   and they know, well now watch here. Then he says the next section is   steps down into sodomy's throws. That's the way I've titled this a step down, the steps down   into sodomy's throws.  

Verse 21,   here are the steps into a culture of homosexuality   thoroughly because having known the law giver firsthand.   Now these are the aboriginal peoples,   they deemed not his way to worth as law giver. They knew, they know there's a creator,   but they slight him. They don't attribute to him the way to worth of his of his the gravity of his personhood,   or were well welcoming welcoming. They didn't welcome him, but rather they became aimless,   and their thoroughly muddled plots   and their heart yearning,   not putting it together,   was darkened.  

Their heart yearning,   not putting it together,   was darkened.   Verse 22,   spotlighting   themselves   to be shrewdly   clear, spotlighting themselves   to be shrewdly clear. In other words, thinking themselves wise as the King James says,   they were blunted stupid.   Thinking themselves to be wise,   they were blunted stupid.   Now   I've   been a sophomore   a few times.   I never stopped to consider what the word sophomore meant.   But Paul the apostle uses the Greek those are 2 Greek words, sophos and moros.   He uses those 2 words here together, sophomores.   When he says,   professing themselves to be wise   or spotlighting themselves to be shrewdly clear,   to be wise,   they were blunted stupid.  

He uses those two words, sophos,   professing themselves to be wise.   They were blunted stupid. They were moros.   We say that we say in English   we took that word in English, moron. They are morons.   Professing themselves to be wise, they are morons and changed,   verse 23, the weight of worth of the unratable   lawgiver   into a 2 d outline likeness   of a ratable man,   and   of birds,   and 4 footed critters,   and of creepers.   They made   images of men,   birds,   critters,   and creepers, bugs,   and worms, and snakes.   And like it says in Jeremiah, then they fell down and worshiped them, or they stood before them and prayed as people do before the image of Mary or the crucifix of Jesus Christ.   That is all idolatry. But he's not talking here about   about sophisticated people.  

He's talking about pagans that never heard, don't have a chance to hear,   Through which the law giver gave them over to an into uncleanness and the lust of their heart yearnings into uncleanness of the disesteeming   of their bodies of flesh among themselves. Now that's a nice way of saying they were sodomizing each other.   You get caught up in paying attention to idol. That again? They  

[00:58:20] Unknown:

Could they repeat   that, please?   Yeah. Which was sodomy?  

[00:58:25] Unknown:

Sodomy.   Sodomy and lesbianism   follow idolatry.   You pay homage to an idol. You, you pray before a statue or an icon.   The next step   in your life, in your culture,   idolatry is no small thing. It is the foundation. It's so bad in the Roman empire about 160   5 BC, I believe it was now sometimes I get mixed up and I can't remember if it's 165   BC or 165   AD. But about that time, the city fathers of Rome   passed a city ordinance   forbidding   public   veneration   of idols   because they were discovering and they finally figured out they weren't stupid. They were pagans, but they weren't stupid.   That where you have public veneration of idols, you have debauchery beyond what anybody can stand.  

Public   sex,   public sodomy,   public   opiates, public   drunkenness, public. That's the product  

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of paying attention. Just paying attention folks is worship. Go ahead, Robert. Well, that was Saturnalia, and it got so bad in all those areas you just mentioned   that they outlawed it for a while. Correct. That is correct.  

[00:59:38] Unknown:

So they weren't stupid. Well, Paul, the apostle's saying the same thing here and you see Rome, of course,   the church of Rome became   so sorted, so ugly, at least 10,000 hookers on the streets in the early days of Christianity.   And it was all about public idolatry. And the music is here. This event, Brent Allen winters.   Www.commonlawyer.com.   Go to the website, take advantage of resources there. We're teaching the course on Christian nationalism.   We want to define what it is. People   are upset about it. Let's just define it. Now let's do it biblically and see if any if there's anything to it. So join up the course.   Go ahead, Roger. No. I'm not saying anything. Oh, okay. Commonlawyer.com.  

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[01:00:48] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Here we go.  

[01:00:51] Unknown:

Thank you, Paul.  

[01:00:53] Unknown:

Well, Roger, you said something   you said something as though I  

[01:00:58] Unknown:

apparently, I had said something that was unclear. What was it? Well, no. I want you to go over your description of sodomy again, and you said that's sodomy.   And of course, your your winterized version is   well, it's not really attuned to our ear. It's attuned to your mind.  

[01:01:14] Unknown:

That is correct. And this and the winterized version, I am the audience. I'm the one I translated it for. So Right. Yeah. If other people can get in their footnotes are massive and you can get a lot out of it. I tell why I translate the way I do and what I let me read verse 24. This is the winterized version. And when I look at it and the idea of the translate, a good translation   is a translation I can look at.   And I know what's the Greek and Hebrew text are behind the word because they're consistently translated. And I try to do that.   Let me read it here. This is by the letters too, by the letters,   literally as they say, word for word through which the law giver gave them over into   uncleanness   in the lust of their heart yearnings gave who over   people who venerate   idols,   who have them in their homes.  

If you have statues and images in your homes   that are like that,   I strongly suggest you purge your house of such filth   because the Bible says that demons   hang around above in or before and behind   the idols of the nation.   And why do they do that? Because they know that if they can get you fixated or enamored or in love with an image or an idol,   that there is an opening there for a demon. That's why they hang around those things. And that's why Paul or John, this is Paul, John, the apostle, the foreman of the 12 man jury that   that,   Jesus Christ and paneled to   witness the evidence of his identity   says in the, at the end of his first epistle,   he says, little children. That's the King James. I know the King James well, Roger, but really what the word means is darling Barnes, darling, darling born ones, born from above.  

And he says,   be ward,   guard yourself, clean away.   The prepositions are emphatic,   clean away   from idols.   Roger, I don't even go into a Roman church house. I stay out of them. Right? You don't have a wedding in the church house. You go ahead and have your wedding. And if I want to go, for some reason, I'll, I'll stay outside. And when you come out, I'll throw rice on you, but I ain't going inside.   Why? Because it tells me it's dangerous to do that. I'm not going to do that. And I keep them out of my sight.   If I see them, I turn and go the other way.  

I'm willing, Roger, at this point in my life to just do what the blasted book says   and quit fiddling around. Right. I don't have to understand it all. And when it's clear and unambiguous   as John's statement is at the end of 1st John chapter 5 verses 21 and 22 there,   barons born ones, ones born from above.   Keep yourself clean away, not just away clean away   from all that. Well, okay. This is why. Let me, let me go on through this. And this is why we are to do that because the result   will be sexual perversion,   sexual perversion.  

If there's a religion in America that shot through with idols, I pick on the visible ones because they're big. They can handle it. Mormonism is nothing but idle idol worship. It's just like Romanism. It's like masonry. It is masonry   put, with a Christian label. That's all it is. But idols, idols, idols, images, images, images, everywhere, everywhere,   but stay away from it. Don't get near it.   And,   you know, it says in the Bible that if you're going to be an elder among God's people, a ruling elder, a teaching elder, you're to be a one woman, man.   I know Mormonism falls down there pretty hard too. I don't know what they've done with that. How do you deal with that? Boy, I don't know, but I used to always wonder how one guy could have 6 or 7 or 8 wives.  

Well, it used to be a famous song. Well, it's famous to me in my part of the world.   You can't love 1.   You can't love 1 and have any fun.   You can't love 2 and your heart be true.   You can't love 1 and have any fun like a bullfrog sitting on a holler stump. You got so many women. You don't know which way to jump.   And that's what happens to people that get in those positions. But And that's another  

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And then they start competing against each other for you.   And there   is the harem.   You know, the harem. And I saw   watched an hour, hour and a half thing on it from Arabs, and they were given the background of it. It was really a grooming school for girls because there were no schools for women back in that culture.   And so the   generally, it was the queen   whose son was on the throne, and she was the one that ran the harem in the background.   So, again, here's the women behind the scenes.   And,   it was very, very interesting because it wasn't what men people think necessarily.   And and many times when he was gonna come be with one of the women, it was his mother who decided which one he was gonna be with.  



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Roger, you did it. You finally did it. Uh-oh. I'm sorry. You got me you got me off you got me off track. So I'm gonna   Oh, I'm sorry. I'm on of course.   Oh, oh, it's not hard to do, but I'm gonna tell a story about Jerry Spence.  

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No, Jerry Spence was a fake. I did. I tell you, we got one of our expats down here from that part of the country, south of Jackson   hole there   who his first marriage, he was married by Jerry Spence. I thought that was very cool.  

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Oh, yeah. Well, Jerry question. Made millions.   Yeah. Hold on. Paul has got the inquiry. Yes, sir.  

[01:06:56] Unknown:

Well, I I have an inquiry now. Don't forget about Jerry Spence because I I I don't think you're gonna get off track on that because it's a very important thing that you wanna do. He did have one question.   Okay. I did have one question. Yeah. Go.   The,   the crucifix.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Would that   constitute   an idol   of sorts,   and would it also I mean, I've heard,   explanations of the crucifixes.   Not only is it idol worship and idolatry,   but it's also   a   it's actually   paying homage to the fact that Christ was crucified.  

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Well,   what no. Whatever you whatever is not you, but whatever somebody characterizes to be,   not only is it idolatry   idolatry,   it's the plainest,   clearest   kind of idolatry. Why?   Because the first and the second commandment,   let's go to the second one. Thou shall make unto me, this is the King James again,   Thou shall make unto me no great even image. Or what does that mean?   Nothing seeable of me. Who's me? Yahoa.   Well, who's Yahoa?   Who is Yahoh Jehovah?   Who is he happens? Who is it in the old testament? It's the pre incarnate Jesus Christ.   You make a picture, a statue or a crucifix. That's what a cruise of Jesus Christ. That is the clearest   violation   because he   doesn't   say there, the Bible doesn't say there, don't make any idols of any other gods.  

The primary command is don't make one of the true God and who is Jesus Christ. He is the true God.   The member of the Godhead reduced to the span of a man.   And we are not to worship something we see.   We are not to, attribute worth. Now, what is worship? Worship. Let's get this clear. Worship is an old Anglo Dane word. That means attribute worth   to it. In other words,   think it's worthwhile to stop and meditate   before   or stop and pray before that's called worship.   Be an idol as well. I don't worship the idol. I know it's just a, that's the whole point, buster. It's an idol. You know what? I know it. God knows it. We all know it. Don't pay homage to it. Don't use it. And one of the ways that in church history that has been described, and I like, I like this, it's a good way to say it,   visual aids to worship. That's what idolatry is. Any visual aid for us is idolatry because   God set the I read a book years ago, by a professor from New York universe that they called   entertaining ourselves to death.  

What a book. Good book. He was speech   professor. And I knew well the professor that knew the fella, cause he taught at New York university and got sick of the big city and came home and he spent the rest of his life in a small town. He was from there.   Nice fellow. And he, he told me this guy that wrote this book was a sharp dude,   but he has in the beginning of his book, a quote from the Bible.   And it's the quote is from when, God delivered the 10   the 10 commandments on the mountain,   and God told the Israelites.   He said,   after all that, he said, when I was on the mountain delivering   it, my,   my daughter dreams, my ten things, my my ten   matters,   my ten standards,   you saw   no   similitude.  

That's the King James again.   You saw no likeness   is a   more accurate way to say it to use Anglo   accent.   You saw no like voice   and God's set the standard. Us Christian folk, we know who our God is not because we see him. No man has seen God at any time   except   who Jesus, the Christ   who is fully God and fully man, not 5050,   a 100, a 100. That's God's arithmetic. And there's no, there's no contradiction in a 100% plus a 100%.   You may think there is on the surface, but that's not what a contradiction is. And Jesus Christ is fully God, fully man. The book of acts says, acts chapter 20   his blood   is the blood of God.  

And if God had not reduced himself to our race, enter the stream of Adam's race,   we would not understand   who God is. I like to tell the story about the I could use another one. Maybe I've wore this one out. Some of you have heard it. If you see ants on your counter and you'd maybe spilled some   honey or something on the counter, you'll have a line of ants coming out to your honey.   And those ants, they don't, they don't have any appreciation of you at all, but they're feasting like mad on what you gave them   and you can't get them to appreciate it.  

But let's think about maybe if you could become an aunt, if you could become an aunt,   maybe you could get across the other ants, the little, little of the idea that, you're the one that provided the honey,   but God has taken upon himself   to enter the stream of humanity and become one of us tempted at all points like us have experienced conception, birth, having experienced hunger, having experienced temptation, being baited by the devil, having experienced all things like us, it says.   And we can look at him folks, if you're not the old song we used to sing in church back home,   more and more about Jesus,   more about Jesus. Would I know more   of his faith to, to his faithfulness, to other show more of his, I need to go back and review those words, but I learned a lot. It was biblical   and Jesus Christ is the subject of the Bible.  

Everything in it points to him. He is the author of the Bible. The Bible says he is the creator   of all things. He is the, the member of the Godhead in Genesis chapter 1 that created everything.   And we've had people on here get real nasty about it, Roger, about Jesus Christ being conceived,   oh, you know, denying the Virgin birth and all that. These things, the Bible are clear on. All I can do is give you my testimony. Again, I'm giving you my testimony.   That's all any Christian man is called to do. I'm telling you what I've discovered in the record that God has given us about who Jesus Christ is.   There is no room for any ambiguity,   any differences of opinion.  

He is God in human flesh reduced to the span of a man   and wherever man and God come together, man and his creator come together.   There is mystery.   And in the incarnation of Jesus Christ is we can know it's true, but we cannot explain everything about it. We just know it's true because the Bible presents it that way. And when people fell down to worship Jesus Christ, he didn't say, get up.   When men fell down to worship angels in the Bible that they thought were God,   the angel   said, get up.   I'm not God. Jesus Christ never said that. He is the only mediator between God and man, though his mother has nothing in the mediation. Now don't get caught up in that foolishness.   As John Wickliffe said, the first man to translate the Bible in English   back in 13/82,   God wants his man and his woman to worship him under the open vault   of heaven   in that beautiful. I like the way he put that. And he was a Roman priest and of course Rome got rid of him real quick and they didn't get to him soon enough. They wanted to burn him at the stake. So they couldn't get the job done in England because the byword in England, even in that at that time was what good has any priest done in England?  

Everybody was saying it. They've been saying it for a few centuries.   Rome never did get his tentacles around that Island completely. Never did. And that's why they were able to slip away finally. And by the sovereignty of God and the God making straight licks with crooked sticks, sinful men for the wrong reason, but God got the English speaking people away from Rome and Babylon friends. Do you realize   us as English speaking people, the blessings that God has poured upon us to remove us from that madness,   to give us the opportunity   to go to the Bible ourselves and understand that he wants us to worship him under the open vault of heaven,   knowing that the father, the son, and the spirit are there, that he is involved in our lives, that we don't see him, but we walk by the record that he has given us of his testimony, which is more powerful than anything we could see anyway.  

Oh, it's wonderful. Let me get back to the, I was going to tell you the story about Jerry Spence. Can I do that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go back in. Some people may not know who he is though.  

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So,   I've I've found when I bring his name up, people don't know who he is. He was back in the, must've been the eighties or the seventies. He was one of the very celebrated lawyers,   like Kunstler and some of the other ones that have attained their 15 minutes of fame over the years. He was a conservative guy, and he lived in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.   And you'd always see him with cowboy gear on and and fringe jackets   and all that kind of stuff. And he was a heck of a guy.  

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His wife made that, leather jacket with all the fringe hanging down. Did she? His second wife. He canned his first one. He was no paragon of morality   in any way. And matter of fact, he denied Christianity,   but God used him in some important cases.   And he was   a trial lawyer, by the way, that made a fortune,   representing   insurance companies.   And once he made his fortune, then he wanted to act like he had a lot of morality. I'm not,   I'm not down on him, but I'm not up on him either. I, he invited me now. This really happened   another true story from Brent winters.  

Anyway,   I, I had tried a case and I thought, well, that worked out pretty good. It was a pretty big case. And,   this was early on and I said, I can do this. And   I say he contacted me. I was on a list of lawyers he wanted to contact. Cause he had started a trial school in Jackson hole.   He didn't know me and I don't know him, but I have watched him argue in court. I, I, when I was in Prescott, Arizona,   he was trying a case there   In federal court, it was up above the post office in, square of Prescott, and I went and I was a lawyer at that time, so I watched the trial. I was fascinated by him, and he is quite a good trial lawyer, and there's lots you can learn from him. I read his books.   I'm I'm not down on him, and I don't want people to think I am because I think there's a lot to learn from a man like that. I just making the point. He far as I know, he denies Christianity. His mother wanted to be a missionary, by the way, Roger. She was church of Christ,   church of Christ. Oh. And,   she ended up killing herself. Long story. Oh. But Jerry Jerry, you know, he sent a message to me, and they wanted me to come to his trial school, and I didn't,   I wrote,   a small essay, which he asked me to do. That was the policy of the school. I didn't know him,   but the policy and I did, and he rejected me on the basis of what I said in my essay. Really? And then the next year yeah. And then the next and the next year they came back and it was because he wasn't Christian. That's what it was. Oh, okay. The next year he came back. He has a, he like Mark Twain.  

Mark Twain had a real problem with Christianity and the sovereignty of God, and I can understand why most men do. It's it's not, it's something that   is hard on our ego,   but,   his experiences with Christianity are pretty vast by the way, and pretty hard.  

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I've read a lot about his mom because of his mom.  

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Because of his mother committing suicide, she fell in love with a a missionary who wasn't his father.   And then,   oh, long story. But   Jerry was right headed on the law in a lot of ways, and he's a good trial lawyer. Well, he's still around. Far as I know, I just don't hear from him anymore. I have talked to his son. I talked to his son once and tried to get him to tell his son now runs a law firm there in Jackson hole.   But Jerry,   the next year I couldn't, he rejected me. Then the next year he came back and   had people from the school   calling me and begging me to reapply.  

And I was put off. I said, no, I can see where you guys are going. And I don't want to be around your point of view,   which was humanistic   very much so.   And,   I didn't go, but Jerry, when he first became a lawyer,   he went to   the university   there in Wyoming. There's one law school in Wyoming. He grew up there and went to that law school   And then he got out and he couldn't find a job and he went, went to work for the, he went to work for the,   the justice of the peace.   Of course, the justice of the peace,   and my husband growing up, he wasn't a lawyer. He just a guy that held court, you know, and on for minor infractions   and handle a lot of stuff that the courts didn't want to handle. And this justice of the peace and this little town, I think he was in, he grew up in Laramie,   which is,   just West of Cheyenne. Cheyenne is just, it's up toward the Nebraska   Panhandle. And then you come West on 80 and then you come to Laramie is about an hour and a half away, the next town.  

And that's where the university, the university of Wyoming is. We got a job with justice of the peace, but the justice of the pieces office   was in a wool warehouse   and had these fleeces of wool   hanging everywhere. And you had to walk through them and push them out of the way to get to this guy's desk.  

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That's why I remember  

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you,   you worked for him for a while. Of course, you could imagine what it smelled like in there. Now, personally, I I'm not put off by the smell of   the fleeces of sheep,   but sheep herders are big in Wyoming back in   the twenties   and thirties. Well, then he, he did that for a while.   He got a job with   a local lawyer and this guy had it and doing nothing but do  

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Brent Brent, you're, you're clipping a little bit. We all want to  

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do that. That was Brent.   You're  

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clipping a little bit and everybody wants to hear the story. Can you get closer to the router? Have you moved away from it?  

[01:21:36] Unknown:

I have not. I will move and it could and sometimes a foot or 2 makes a difference. Let me   the router's on the corner of a shed out here pointing up to the top of the hill, and up at the top of the hill is another,   dish that points 10 miles away across the valley.  

[01:21:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, you sound better already if that's any feedback. Okay. Yeah. And I wanted to get this story, and you were starting to clip on it. And we missed part of it or at least I did. So if you can remember what you're talking about and rewind just a bit.  

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Okay. So Jerry, he got his first job out of law school with   with the justice of the peace.   Yeah. Yeah. Can you hear me now? Yes. Fine.   His office was in,   a wool gathering warehouse or a lot of sheep   or Wyoming   at that time still are.   And,   he said he had to,   had to push the fleeces of sheep out of the way. There were the ones who were wet were hanging, you know,   just to get to this guy's desk when that didn't last long. And he went, went to work for a lawyer.   The lawyer had him doing title searches and he didn't like that. He's sitting at a desk all day, mischievous.   So he decided he'd run for state's attorney.  

So he ran for state's attorney   and,   he won, but he said, he wanted to go to   the wind river reservation and get the engine to vote for him. You know, that big reservation in the middle of,   well,   he said he walked into this.   No. Now wait a minute. I said he ran for state's attorney. No, he decided he'd run for US Congress   and he did.   And the guy he was running against,   I remember   tippy   Canoe   and Tyler too. Or 2? Yeah. Yeah.   The battle of Tippie Canoe in Indiana. Right. When it when his name President of Henry Canoe. Wasn't it William Henry Harrison?   William Henry Harrison. He was to, during the war of 18 12, he was,   in the north. What Andy Jackson became in the south. They were the 2 heroes of the war.  

And,   William Henry Harrison whooped to come see at the battle of Tippecanoe   to come see in the Confederated tribes. They were working for the British.   And,   well, any rate,   William Henry Harris   his grandson   was Congressman in Wyoming at that time.   And,   Jerry Spence ran against him.   Of course, he was deeply entrenched and, from a well known political family   and he lost, but he said that he wanted to go to the Wind   River reservation.   If I remember the story right, and he   there are some of those Indian that was back in the fifties.   Some of those Indians had teepees. Now they were traditional and old, older folk, you know, upwards of 900 years old.  

And,   he walked into this one teepee and this   old man was in there sitting cross legged in front of the fire up against   the edge of the teepee, and he want him to he said, what do you want? And he said, I want you to vote for me for US Congress.   And he said, vote for you? What's that?   He said, well, that's where you go to the polling place and you cast a ballot. And the law says, if you want to back, you know, 30 years before they'd passed legislation that   if,   I made all the red men in America   citizens of the United States. Right?   Yeah. That was, was that Harding or Coolidge? I don't remember one of them   under his administration.  

And, he said, you can vote.   And he said, I don't know nothing about that. He said, all I'm interested in is shooting the SOBs. And he,   he still was, he was still ticked off, you know? Well,   he was making the point. He had that they had a good reason to kick off of course.   But,   he ended up then becoming a state's attorney   and he was a young guy. Didn't know what he was doing.   And he told the people   when he was running for state's attorney that he was gonna shut down all the whorehouses in Laramie.   And there were a lot of whorehouses in Laramie,   and there are a lot of sheep, and there are a lot of sheep herders all over the hills,   wide open country.  

And the sheep herders would come down to Laramie, and they would visit the whore houses.   He said, you're gonna shut them all down.   Well, he found out he won the election, but he almost didn't win it. And the reason he found out later, he didn't almost didn't win the election   because   the wives   of the men,   the women, the women,   that were running the churches in Laramie,   campaigned against him because he was going to shut down the whorehouses.   And they   said when they were campaigning against him, that if they shut down the whore houses, all these sheep herders were coming down out of the Hills and rape our daughters.   That's what the women said.  

Well, he said, of course, it was lessened to him that   there are a lot   of women out there that   don't want their husbands to   give them any sexual attention.   They just soon, they go to the whorehouse and that's what was going on there.   There's a lot of ugliness in,   in the world   and that's part of it. And  

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it's   down here. That's called machismo.  

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Yeah. And it's,   it's wrong. It's very wrong.   That men and women that are married do not have close   physical relationships   and it destroys   families, destroys order   and,   women get bitter. I know, I know all that stuff. I've been married about 50 years. All those things are, but God says, I don't care.  

[01:27:54] Unknown:

Do things the way I say to do it. Well, that's a solid issue, but getting let's get back unless, Roger, you've got some other rabbit trail. Nope. Nope. No no rabbit trails. Although we may wanna we may wanna open it up for the audience. They may have some questions or comments, but go ahead where you were going.  

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Okay. Well, yeah, let me get through this. I'll try to get through it quick.   About we're talking about how   homosexuality   takes over a culture. It starts with,   people   who reject what they know to be true, that there is a creator.   They don't know about Jesus Christ. They don't know about redemption.   As we like to say, by the way, we're going to teach a course Lord willing to start in on the 9th of 9th of,   January on Christian nationhood. And we wanna start by pointing out   that, that God has communicated to man in 2 volumes, the laws of nature,   Our declaration of 76 cites them, the laws of nature,   and the laws of nature's God. That was Tom Jefferson plagiarizing   John Locke.  

That's I'm okay with him plagiarizing   John Locke   because it was good.   So I'm not complaining.   John Locke was a Puritan and a biblocist and so was his father,   but they recognized   and, and John Locke was the great   fan of the Scottish enlightenment.   The Scottish enlightenment was a continuation of the Scottish reformation.   The Scottish reformation,   the key figure was John Knox.   And during that time, the   absolute authority   of the Bible was   established in Scotland.   Absolute, inerrant.   And it also then was established through the Puritan party that controlled   parliament in England.  

And then in the Scottish enlightenment,   they got to say, well, the Bible teaches that God has established creation   according to certain laws, and those laws   are consistent.   And the Bible talks about that. The Bible makes a big deal about it, and it does.   They said there is a here's what they said, Roger. There is a revelation of condemnation,   and there is a just a revelation   of salvation.   The revelation of condemnation   is found in nature to worship God under the open vault of heaven without the Bible and understanding the revelation of redemption is to be a pagan.   Well, John Wickliffe understood that too, and he makes that point,   but it is the revelation. It is. And the Romans one just, it says it right here. The revelation of condemnation comes to men   and they know that there is a creator of all things. They know that this creator has created them   and they know therefore they are responsible to him. And what are they? They're condemned.  

The revelation of nature is an important,   our declaration calls it the laws of nature.   That is a revelation of condemnation. It does not,   does not give you what you need   to understand how to stay out of hell, how to be safe,   safeened for eternity.   But if God gives you the revelation   of nature,   He will give you, if you respond to that properly,   and do not instead   make idols and give homage to visual aids to worship,   God will give you the gospel. That's what he says, and the gospel comes out of the revelation of God written, and that is the court of last resort in any cases of inconsistency. And of course, we also call our revelation of nature, our common law. It's a good, it's a good law. It's God's law,   but without the Bible   written as the final court of last resort,   it can only condemn you, and it does.  

So both of them, the he's talking about them both here. Why is he talking about them both here? And Paul does talk about them both here, both volumes,   because he's getting that from Psalms chapter 19,   where both volumes are cited and talked about there   and how that works. You know, the old song is biblical, follows Romans 1. Oh, lord, my god, when I in awesome wonder and consider all the worlds   thy hands have made. I see the stars.   I hear the roaring, rolling thunder.   Thy power throughout the universe displayed. Okay. I see all that. I don't know anything about the Bible.   Then sings my soul, my my savior god. He's moving to that. But then he after the revelation of nature, he begins to talk about the revelation   of scripture,   the laws of nature, and the laws of nature is God.  

Well, he says here, verse 25, who for sure in the lie, they lied them themselves.   They didn't pay attention to the creator God,   and they swapped it for law giver's proven fact and were cowed.   You wanna be cowed? You wanna be intimidated?   Just be an idol worshiper. That's what you are.   Intimidated by a lot of things, by a lot of lies, and you get to love in the lie more than the truth. And if you love the lie more than the truth, God won't show you anything else. You see in this progression,   God will not move you to the next step of revelation of understanding   and till you accept the one he's just given   you. If you reject at any point, the absolute and utter sovereignty of God, you're going to be stuck there. Just like I had a neighbor   that had to redo the 1st grade over again, or he was stuck there.  

Well, then he got it. He gave in and learned what they wanted him to learn. And then they moved him forward. Well, that's what God does.   And you move from faith to faith. It says that means you trust God on this point. He's just given you. He'll move you to the next one. You don't get that far. If you don't,   he's gonna,   he's gonna take you to the woodshed and tune you up. And then he'll bring you out and say, now,   do you think that you wanna reconsider your response?   And if you're truly born from above and you don't reconsider your response to him, he'll take you back to the woodshed again, and it'll hurt even more.   He didn't let any of his children go. No. No. He makes them wise and understanding and accepting of truth   moment by moment. But in all of this,   they get the idolatry because they reject   the God they cannot see, but they see his work.  

And in Hebrews it says, if you see a house,   if you see a house, you know what? You know somebody built it.   If you see a,   wristwatch, you know somebody   designed it and made it.   You don't see who built it. You just know somebody built it. And the writer of the Hebrews in the Bible makes that argument for the existence of the creator God and says, if you see this kind of intricate design and wonder   wonder   nature.   And you re reject what you know has to be true, that there is a designer who has designed all this and sustains it all.   Let's just being stupid,   and God's not gonna take you to the next step. So we get to verse 27   no. Verse 26.  

Through all of this rejection of the creator God,   instead becoming an an idolater   through this or through cause of this is the meaning of the Greek word. The law giver gave them over to worthless,   less   for in fact,   both their here it is. Watch this.   Both their breastfeeders   swapped   with the breathing soul of birth fitting use into the thing beside and against birth breathing soul. Now that's what it says by the letters. What does that mean? That means the woman swapped.   She used the word here, calling her a breast feeder, stressing   her anatomy.  

She's a woman. She swaps that   for something else.   She doesn't want to be a mother. She doesn't want to bear children. She doesn't want to do that. She wants to do something else. What happens?   Well,   he says, likewise,   the mannish   having been stood the breathing soul of birth, sexual use of the breastfeeders   stood them aloof.   The woman first   leaves her natural role as a female,   and then the man gets confused. The little boy growing up gets confused.   This is how it all happens friends,   and this is how a society   gets into   homosexuality.  

Getting back the matching pay, which foregone   of their astray in among themselves   in as much as verse 28,   They prove not up to have the law giver in full firsthand knowledge, the law giver that's God   gave them along to try and improve an untrue mind. And as much as to do the things unbecoming,   I like the way Paul puts that,   they they began doing things that are unbecoming.  

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Would that be would that be like a mother here modern day   trying to encourage her child to switch genders?   Would that be something akin to that? Yeah. Sautomizing  

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sodomizing each other,   encouraging your children and their sexual confusion. And we'll go ahead and get a,   get a, get a trans, get an operation to change it to the other sex. Yes. Paid by paid by, by the government, by the way. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. That too. He we gotta give him hearty approval. And he says that later. He says, here's the characteristic of that world.   Oren,   greed,   fiendishness,   full of begrudging,   murder,   wrangling,   baiting and switching,   culture, whispering,   gossipings, backbiters,   lawgiver,   haters,   cocky   sadist,   haughty over toppers,   blowhards,   finders of fiendishness.  

He said that now three times. Yikes. Uncoachable.   Uncoachable   by parents.   That's ruthless. I'm just looking through the words here. Every  

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one of you for sure knowing fully. It's incredible.  

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It's just yes. Incredible. And I'll let's, let's end with this,   because there's, I can't say everything.   Oh, here, let me re end with this. We've been talking about it. Verse 32   who for sure knowing firsthand the law givers   right headed outcome   that the men   regularly carrying on such as these are worthy of death.   Not only do them, but rather even well agree with the men carrying them on.   That's what we're doing now. We're well agreed. Well, you do your own thing. Don't bother me. Right. You can do that. I'll just do it. Just, just do it.   Yeah. Go ahead.  

Yeah. If it feels good, whatever trips your trigger floats your boat, turns your t shirt   and there we go. Well,   that's just,   some of the unpacking of, what it is. And I see all this ugliness among that culture. Oh, yeah.  

[01:39:04] Unknown:

Yeah. It's all. You see it every day.   It manifests itself in some area of what, of the world every day, multiple times. And you do want in news. Yep. Do we want this culture or do we want Christian culture? That's the important question.   Back to you, Roger. I'd like to see us, I'd like to see us rewind on that cultural thing.   Well, you know, I think back,   it's something I've thought about for years, Brent, is looking back in the recent last 50 years.   What one thing was there one thing that really   overrode all the other things? Was it no fault divorce and coming out of California?   Was it,   free love?  

Was it the pill?   You know, there are   all those combined that have   sent us spiraling downhill.   And I was part of that, k, in my youth.   Are there anyone in the audience who want to ask Brent a question or comment or something? I always try   and leave a little time where we can interact with the folks if they've got something on their mind. So if you do, if you just unmute and say hi and roll on.   There you go. There's one. Hey, Wayne. Alright, man. There's that New Orleans accent. Hey, buddy.   Uh-huh.   Uh-huh.   Really?  



[01:41:42] Unknown:

Alright.  

[01:42:16] Unknown:

Oh my goodness, Dwayne.   Well,   it's   it's like we're saying, and they would they want   they almost demand you to recognize them and applaud them.   Yep.   Well, it's gotta it's gotta change. It's gotta change, and, I I think maybe some of their movement will be tail tapering off here as we go forward.   Maybe that's just a hope. I don't know. But I I think some of their stuff's done.   Yeah.   Alright.   Okay, Dwayne. Well, it's always good to hear your voice and know you're out there, my friend. Thank you very much.   Yeah.   Okay. See you, Dwayne. Okay. Who's next? There gotta be some other folks who've got something to pull off on here.  

I can't believe nobody in this audience,   didn't have any comments. Well, there's there's Joan. Hey, Johnny.  

[01:43:56] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:44:00] Unknown:

Me   I I believe Tucker was one of the ones he mentioned. Do you remember what you were specifically talking about there, Brent?  

[01:44:08] Unknown:

No, he just mentioned across the board. There's nobody in Congress that isn't black mailable. Yep.   Go ahead. I suspect there might be 1 or 2. There are either some, I knew some, but he'd making the point that just as a matter of fact, everybody is in a majority   principal organization like that, that has a big effect.  

[01:44:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well look what they did to Matt Gates. They tried to set him up that way with a Jewish tax assessor. Florida has its own county tax assessors,   and he was one of them. And he got into some kind of an arrangement where he tried to get Gaetz sucked into this,   with some 17 year old. I don't believe Gates had anything to do with it. It was proven. The DOJ   looked into it thoroughly, of course, trying to nail him, and they didn't come up with any charges.   So anyway,   still doing it.   I wanted to ask Joan, do you know Tucker Carlson's background, Joan?   Well, his mother is the heir to the Swanson frozen food,   state,   but his father was a newsman and he was in DC for years.  

And that's where, I guess, Tucker would,   even at an early age, have become exposed to,   well, let's say the seedy side.   But then he saw the light, you know, it's like John Blythe, I saw the light, I saw Hank Williams.   Tucker saw the light. I remember when he first came on the scene and he was all looked like Eastern Blue Blood establishment.   He has little madras   sport coats on and his little bow tie, and that was back in his I hadn't woke up yet days. And then all of a sudden, he started paying attention and went to and the guy that really fed him initially was Alex Jones.   And then it as you all you know, when you take off on this other path, it doesn't happen overnight   with most people. Maybe it does with some. With most people, it doesn't. And you continue to go down the path and grow, and you see more things exposed that were right in front of you before, but you never saw them or recognized them. And you grow into this awoke   deal of, man, there's a whole bunch wrong,   and I wanna understand it and maybe even see if I can do something about it.  

So that that's kind of the path all of us take, I think, Joan.   I really like Tucker. I mean, he is he is just such a true,   truly gem of a talented person.   I mentioned it the other day. Brent, I don't know if you've seen this yet or not. Probably haven't,   but he just did a a   an interview hour and a half long with a   very famous Jewish economist,   Jeffrey Sachs. Are you familiar with him?   No.   He's a really level headed guy. He really want he's a good Jew. Okay? Well, put it that way. I don't know if he's still practicing or not, but because he's such a has such a reputation as a good economist, he   has a lot of consultations with some of these bad countries and stuff.  

And Tucker did a   hour and a half interview with him last 10 days.   And, boy, he just absolutely   cut   the whole Jewish agenda and Netanyahu   up one side and down the other. He wasn't saying anything that was untruthful.   But then here comes who who comes and attacks him,   but a Zionist Jew   named Pollock   that has been he was the editor and the head of a very used to be very conservative site called Breitbart.   Well, when they killed Breitbart, they stuck a Zionist Jew in control, of course. And he's the one that was trying to publicly cut down this Jeffrey Sachs guy.   Very level headed, very you know, when you watch him, you just get a good feeling about him, you know?  

Uh-huh. So anyway, that,   Tucker did a marvelous interview with him.   So,   I I talked about it on the show the other day. Yes, John.   They he's, listen, he's pretty well got it nailed. Okay?   He not, he's not gonna come out and say that, but he infers it. All of them infer it. They talk about, oh, the money people or the and the the usury people or any of that stuff. That's all euphemisms for the same thing. They know who it is. And just like the Bible says, for fear of the Jews,   they won't say it. We say it here.   And they and what do they do?  

Nothing.   So anyway, Joan, don't forget, we're going to do a little, we're going to do a little part of the show tomorrow for Joan on explaining the monetary system and how it works.   It well, we can do it in some detail. So, we're gonna do that that schedule for tomorrow. So anybody else in the audience got a question for Brent or question for me or there's somebody right there. Yeah. There's Joe. Hey, Joe.   Yes.   Oh, I haven't heard that. But guess who else's name is being floated for that?   Elon Musk.   Probably so. I don't want must boggled up in all that crap. Let somebody else competent do that and let him go in this   overall overseeing. Let's get this thing whittled down just a little bit cause we can't survive   at the rate we're going the way it is now.  

You know that big bill got that big bill they tried to shove through here for Trump gets inaugurated. Hopefully cross your fingers.   That thing was just about to pass. It had,   the speaker well, I can't remember his name. I guess I'm trying to   forget it. The the church code speeder speaker had endorsed it. Okay. And, and with public opinion, that thing was defeated in a day,   a day.   Well, he's they've they've, done a proposed alternate thing for just the farmers and a couple of other areas that needed attention, but that big bill failed. You know, it had all the whole COVID 2 thing installed in it. It had proposed   that everyone in the United States get this kids.  

Everyone in the United States is a US person.   It had raises for Congress. It had a it it was unbelievable.   I think Trump got it shortened down from 1500   pages to 90 pages in this new proposal they've got up there, but that big one is done.   So,   folks, there's a new sheriff coming to town. Hopefully, cross your fingers. And,   boy, we're gonna see some fur flying, folks.   It's a target Can you hear me? It's a it's a target rich environment for a talk show host. Joe, Brent shoot shooting at you there.  

[01:52:06] Unknown:

Joe, have you ever heard of a   radio outlet called Hebrew nation?   You have never listened.   Well, the reason I asked was I,   somebody sent me one of those. I don't promote their point of view, but,   they had a guy on there talking about Hebrew nation. It sounded just like you. I said, well, obviously   if it isn't   Joe, it's from somebody from, your neck of the woods. Cause he had the same accent, you know,   but you say you don't know,   but you you won't wonder. Brent, we we Okay.  

[01:52:52] Unknown:

Okay. We had a wonderful event the other night. Your name came up from me,   and, Joe put together a little hour,   round robin discussion with, doctor Gene Schroeder.   And it was just fabulous. It came off real well. We replayed it on the show here, and he wanted to do it in at night because he's busy during the daytime and didn't wanna necessarily come on the show immediately. And so we did this little,   stage one thing of an hour long interview. It turned out real well, and he wants to do it again, it sounded like, after   the,   inauguration. So the next time, we'll try and get you involved because I know you'd expressed an interest in speaking with him and maybe interviewing him. You 2 had a lot in common. What a wonderful gentleman he is.  

Yes. You're a question.  

[01:53:45] Unknown:

Joe, did Joe would you go put it together and do it by,   Internet?   Yeah.  

[01:53:53] Unknown:

Okay. So you you've got it recorded. Can you drop it in so I can I'll get on. Yes. I said the other night we need to send that to Brent. Paul, could you do that, please?   Yes. I can do that. I have a question. Guess what we guess what he wanted to talk about, Brent? It was very interesting.   He wanted to talk about the War Emergency Powers Act, of course, and he wanted to talk about Mortmain.   And, he drawn out some things about Mortmain that I just flat didn't know I've never been exposed to before. It's   a very interesting concept of according to Mortmain,   only real persons can own land.  

And now we got governments owning land. So and, evidently, that's an ancient,   doctrine.   Is Joe still there, Roger? Yeah. I think so, Joe.  

[01:54:45] Unknown:

Joe, do you   are you a a part of   the,   the National  

[01:54:54] Unknown:

Association  

[01:54:56] Unknown:

for raw   no. Not NFO, but well, are you a member NFO?   Okay. So this is a national organization.   No. This was national organization.   Yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe.   Okay. The   organization of raw materials   norm.   Well,   do you do you,   do you attend their weekly meetings?   Well, I I have   Uh-huh. Who who who does a brilliant study?   Well, it's uh-huh.   Yeah. Randy. I've interviewed Randy.   And then,   Randy   Yarbrough was a close friend to Randy Cooks.   Randy Yarbrough passed away. He's elder. He was elder at church with us there. We meet on Sundays.   And,   but Randy Cook gives a presentation,   I mean, that I would like to him to give   his   beautiful visuals   makes it real simple how economy works   and how raw materials   are foundational to that and,   and how a wealth of a, of a culture   is magnified. If the producers of raw materials are given parody prices, that's really what he gets. He gets to   the matter of fact,   Yeah.  

I get it. And, and most economists,   most   like this. Yeah.   You were talking about Roger. I don't know. But I would guess when he learned economy, he just learned about money and money, which is emptiness becomes the foundation   for popular economic theory. When God said, no, no, no. The foundation of economics is raw materials,   tangible, it's substantive, and has real work.   I remember Randy Cook starts his lecture, Roger,   about economics. And he says all true wealth. If you really want to know what wealth is, just keep in mind all true wealth   either. Well, he puts it this way. All true wealth oxidizes.  

That means it either rusts   or it rots.   And if it doesn't do one of those two things, it's not true. Well, second, all true wealth   is,   because it all oxidizes all true wealth   has to be continually   reproduced to be true. Well, if it has to be something that replenishes itself   and doesn't stop.   And just understanding those 2 things.   Then we would have a full understanding that arising out of that,   what true wealth is and what economics is   and that he's not a highfalutin   university professor, but he makes a,   a compelling presentation.   Yeah.  

Go ahead. Question.   Yeah.   Yeah. And Randy wanted to talk about that a lot and he wanted me to talk about it. And,   and I, I learned a lot about it,   because of being associated with Randy Yarborough.   But,   we never did get gene   on the air   with us, but gene and Randy and that other fellow you mentioned,   they ended up putting together a lawsuit.   Yeah. Ed. And they put together a lawsuit in federal court and the 10 and the district court   to try to get a ruling that would force the executive branch of government to   put in to execute the legislation   that had been put in back in the 19 thirties and has never been repealed.  

And that piece of legislation   Mhmm.   Uh-huh.  

[02:00:26] Unknown:

Yeah. No. Yeah. They're not touching that one. What? That's a political question. No. No. No. It's a judicial question. No. No. It's a political question. There's a hot potato, ends up going back and forth. Brent,   always a pleasure to do a Friday radio show with you, and this today's   is no exception. Thank you, sir. Yes, Joe.   Yes. K, Jerry. What you got? Go ahead.   Okay. Well, I'm sure he will. Can you hold on and let us get off the air and tell the listeners bye bye? And then we can, address that, and   we won't be,   leaving them hanging on the edge of a cliff. So,   there we go. We're gonna find the cost of freedom. Thank you, Paul. So I couldn't hear her, so I don't know where I am.  

But, anyway, we'll be back tomorrow. We're going to discuss the monetary system for miss Joan down there in Costa Rica and all of you, of course, that don't might not understand how it works.   And, we'll see you then should you be available to join us and want to. We'd love to help   you be unconfused on that complex subject. So other than that, I hope you got something out of today. We'll see you later. Thank you again, Brent. Ciao. Ciao.   Okay. Okay. We're off. I had the button pressed by now.   So, Jerry, what's your, what's your query here? Jerry with a query.   Okay.  

No. He's here. I'm pretty sure. Brent, you're still there. Right?  

[02:02:10] Unknown:

Right.   Right.   Yep.   Uh-huh.   Well, the Bible, the information of the Bible and the historic,  

[02:02:44] Unknown:

Hold on, Jerry. You got an addendum question. Brent was gonna we got a little lag here. Sorry. He causes these kind of problems. Jerry, did you get everything you wanted to ask? You are you were asking about the book of Jasher.   Good question.  

[02:03:10] Unknown:

No. No. The book of Jasher is   the book of Jasher is a real book.   It's called a book. It's a writing. They didn't have books like we understood them back,   but it is a writing.   It's mentioned twice as you point out in the whole testament, the Hebrew Bible.   And   those are too instant. That's not the only time that   outside sources have been mentioned in the Bible   and the new testament   of Jude   little book of Jude,   Jude   quotes from the book of Enoch, which is not part of the Bible.   Peter quotes   from the writings of Galen.   Galen was a Greek physician. He quotes from him.  

Paul, the apostle quotes from   the poets of the Greeks. He doesn't identify which one.   There's a lot of places in the Bible where other books are quoted. Of course, in the book of Daniel,   he has long quotes there from the decrees of the emperor of Babylon,   and he writes them   in the   original ton of the emperor Babylon, which is ever make   the rest of the book is in Hebrew.   The Bible quotes a lot of people in a lot of ways.   And when it does that, it lifts   somebody else's words out   and puts them in the Bible   to make a point   or to illustrate a truth.  

But that does not mean that the book of Jasher, the book of Enoch or any other book   is part of the Bible.   If those books said something that God wanted to quote in the Bible,   something that was true,   he,   he did, we, we see it that he picked them out and quoted those books. But again, I stress that does not mean the whole book of that they quote as part of the Bible.   It doesn't mean they found something in that was true or something they wanted to use to illustrate a truth.  

[02:05:12] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. Yeah. Yes. Who's that?   I I I'm sorry. If I can insert here   I heard   a   phrase that that I think would apply. I'm not trying to directly contradict you, but,   as I understand the, Bible   requires an entire monastery   to hold.   Because,   it's a living record of God's work.   And,   when King James created the, King James Bible, the reason why   is because prior to that creation,   they actually had to have armed guards   take a very large book, and the the book that they actually took is on display at the Vatican. It's the one that's 4 foot wide,   about 3 and a half foot tall,   okay, when it's laying on its side.  

Okay. This thing is huge   and it used to take, oxen in order to pull it on a cart and they would take it like, once every 5 years around to different towns   so that the priest could open the book and read what he wanted out of it. And and that was the only thing that they had was portable. If you wanted anything more, you would actually have to go back to the monastery.   So he created this for the average person   so that they may carry the word of God with them   and carry it in their pocket. I I yield  

[02:06:38] Unknown:

Who who was that, Alan? Who is that that was talking just now? If you don't mind, I don't recognize the word. Yes. It's Alan. Okay, Alan. Well, it wasn't directed at me. I think that's more in Brent's Ballywick. Go ahead, Brent.  

[02:06:51] Unknown:

Well,   the lure   the lure   that   can be created   by saying that the Bible is not all of what God wants us to have in his testimony   is overwhelming to people.   What happens is, and this is my observation. I'm not directing my comments toward you,   but clearly the Bible, the Canon is closed and has been closed for centuries and all this about Rome and a giant book. Not. That's just all hooey.   You know, I don't like to be disrespectful   and I'm not being, when I say it's hooey, it's hooey   and there is no evidence of such things,   but we do have God's testimony and as all testimony that God wants us to have, it's limited.  

The Bible says in,   the gospel records, for instance, that   the world cannot hold all of the, my book that would be big enough to,   to record all the things that Jesus Christ said and did. Now that's hyperbole,   but his point is this testimony that I'm giving you here in the gospel records   is not everything,   but it is sufficient.   When I was a young man back in the 90 19,   well, I was young in the 1980s younger than I am now. Of course I was a grown man, but I was younger.   The big question was, is the Bible inerrant?   That was what   that split the Southern Baptist convention in half over that.  

It split a lot other big groups in half and it was   what   Krista dumb was talking about.   Well, they're not talking about that now in our day right now they're talking about not is the Bible inherent,   but is the Bible sufficient?   Is it enough?   That's the big   hullabaloo that's going on now.   And   I'll give you my testimony. It's enough.   Matter of fact, that God says it's enough and I can point to the Bible where he says it's enough. You say, well, that's inside testimony. Well, we could talk about the rules of evidence   and how that works and how we know the Bible is an, is the Canon, as we say, is closed and it has been closed for several centuries.  

But all of the, if you, if you don't draw the line on testimony, even in our common law course, we draw the line on evidence. What is evidence?   It is testimony.   All evidence is ultimately   oral   recorded testimony in our common law tradition. And all of God's evidence is ultimately   oral   recorded.   This, we have the record as Peter the apostle says of the very   breath of God as he speaks.   And he calls that the Bible. He says the Bible is Theo pneumatas.   And by the way,   Peter wrote 2 epistles   and both of them could be categorized, but the second one even more so as a dying decoration.   That's an exception to the hearsay rule and our common law of evidence.  

He knew that his, or he believed you don't have to know your death is imminent, but if you believe your death is imminent   and we can't get you into court,   we'll allow the testimony of somebody else saying what you said.   That's huge in our law of evidence, and Peter fulfills that.   Peter says things. He focuses on the word of God. He knows he's gonna die, and he talks about it and tells us how important it is.   The word of God, that means the canon. Now the old testament canon and the closing of it, I think   somewhere   oh, I have. Here's what I have. I've got a lot of these things that I'm saying are in the winterized version of the Bible. A common lawyer translates from the original tongues and I   have all about 180 appendices in the back. And one of them,   one of those appendices is when, how do we know when the old testament can enclosed?  

And I can go through all the reasons. It's a matter of evidence. Everything in life is evidence.   All of the Bible is evidence   and understand what evidence is just a little, you don't have to be an expert, just to understand some simple things about evidence.   Then you begin to grasp   the reason for the Bible, what it is, why it has a, the can is closed, why we reject other books. When I've told the story when I was, again, a young man in my late twenties,   I got together for a long time,   regularly once a week or twice a week. I don't remember now, but with   a with a,   fella who was a   a, Hebrewist,   a professor of Semitics,   the Semitic tongues   of which there are about 15 that are well known.  

And they're all kind of the same and they're all from the same family of tongues. Aramaic and Hebrew are 2 of them.   And   the object   of meeting together was to try to discover   and see why we would think that the canon of the Bible is closed.   You see the reformers back in the 1500   1600   went through all this again.   Why they said, wait a minute. The King James Bible was published with a whole lot of books that aren't aren't part of the canon that we recognized, and it was.   It had the Maccabees in it and other books that they published that the Roman Bible has that aren't part of the Canon aren't part of the word of God. But there are some fundamental tests that   our common law would give us test of evidence to determine whether something   has reached the level of, of, equal dignity with the bot.  

Well, let me say up front, the traditions of the church of Rome, and you were talking about that living. They just keep bad   to it. That's not living, that's rowing and the Bible forbids and the law of God and the old Testament to add anything to it or to take anything away from it.   So that's a violation of the Bible right there. And then second,   do we have manuscripts   evidence? It's a, it's a question of evidence. Do we have manuscripts   that are reliable   in the original tongues in which the book the writing was written?   If you don't have those two things, you're you don't have much of anything.  

But that's where you would start. And then you read the books and see, are they fundamentally   contrary   to the fundamental truths of the themes,   the the fundamental teachings,   the foundational teachings that are woven throughout the warp and the wolf of the text of the Bible.   Those would be the 3 main things. And of course we each were assigned in that we were assigned   particular   extra biblical books   called the pseudepigrapha.   That's what some people call them. Some people call them the apocrypha, the apocryphal books and the pseudo   pseudepigrapha   books that Rome include that the King James included.  

And of course we had the   conclusion in most cases   is we were signed a certain book or 2 books depending upon how large they are. And we made presentations   to how, why we thought they were part of why we believed   or convinced they were part of the Canon or not part of the Canon. That was the whole exercise.   And I discovered in that exercise, it took a number of months.   But in that, I discovered   that this is pretty easy. It's not that complicated.   For example, the book of Enoch is not in the original tongue in which it is written. That's easy.   Does the Bible quote the book of Enoch? Yes, it does. Quotes it   in the book of Jude. I'd pointed that out while ago.  

Talks about the many who are ungodly among them who have,   committed on godly deeds   and then their ungodly ways and ungodly sinners have done ungodly. It repeats the word ungodly several times, and that's a significant word in the Greek text to understand what that means. Ungodly.   That's the English translation,   but   that,   that particular passage, it was lifted out of the book of Phoenix   and Jude half brother to Jesus Christ, by the way, puts it right in the Bible.   And also one of the 12 man jury that he impaneled,   he puts it in the Bible.  

So we know that that   is the testimony of God, but we have no evidence   that the rest of the book is except to say there are substantial truths in it. That was the other thing that we discovered in that exercise that   there are substantial   historical facts in these writings. For example, the book of the Maccabees,   it's a historic book about the 400 years between the old Testament and the new Testament   and the revolt of the Maccabean family, a very influential family in Israel.   They weren't nice people and they were not godly people, but they're held out to be godly people. Maccabees,   they were Babylonian to the hill.  

Well, we got all that stuff, but it comes down to some simple tests   that Jesus Christ would give. And, you know, we can go to the gospel records. Here's another thing we can do. We can go to the gospel records, which are the apex   of God's written testimony.   It's all of equal dignity, but you can go to the gospel records.   And if you can show   by simple rules of evidence that the gospel records are reliable   testimony   of what happened   from the gospel records   and the   words of Jesus Christ himself,   you can establish the whole Canon of the Bible pretty particularly   and limit it that way   and discover how many books are in the Bible.  

And if you're interested in such things or anyone listening,   I've got a long appendices in the back of 2 books,   excellence of the common law, the comparative law text, and then also the winterized translation of the Bible. One of the, I include that same appendix in the back of that,   plus a whole lot of things in those appendix about how   we can know using the laws of the simple rules of evidence that we use in our courts every day that we find also in the Bible. The Bible gives us fundamental rules of evidence.   The Bible is a law   book, the most significant law book we have, but it is all also as a law book. It is the affidavit,   the recorded testimony   and   the law, the statutes and commandments and judgments of God. That's what it is. As Isaiah, the prophet says that to the law, he says,   that's the statutes, commandments and judgments   and to the testimony. That's the other part of the Bible and most of the Bible or a lot of the Bible   is   Effie Davies   sworn statements about what happened.  

Well, that's my response to   it. It's worth, I recommend it for what it's worth.   Get, those,   those books with that appendix in it and that you can read what I've discovered about it. I'm just giving testimony myself. That's all I've done. Especially when people hear that comparison of common law and the law of the city.  

[02:18:19] Unknown:

If you, if you want to dig deeper, because on which one of these topics you're wanting to dig into, boy, that's got to be as good a resource as we probably have available, Brent, in my opinion.  

[02:18:30] Unknown:

Yes. Well, thank you, Roger. And also this course where   I'm preparing   to begin on the 9th January about Christian nationhood.   At the foundation of that course   is the definition of God's relationship   to the individual man or woman   and his relationship to nations,   according to his law and testimony.   That's what this is all about and creates a Christian culture.   Now that fundamental relationship that God has with   individuals and with his people and with nations   is what the old timers called a covenant relationship.   Well, the word covenant is a broad catchall   from the Latin tongue that has anything to do with the law of promises, undertakings, and agreements.  

But to define it more particularly, when you look at it in the Bible, you see that the Bible is   it can be characterized in many ways, but the chief way it can be characterized   is the trust settlement of God with his people,   the trust settlement of God with his people and that trust settlement   as all trust   at common law has 3 certainties of words. There must be a certainty   of intent to settle   law trust. There must be certainty   of   entrusted property. That means well defined, not just everything. No. You have to well define it. And thirdly, there must be a certainty of chosen beneficiaries   that the settler of the trust chooses.  

The one who has intent to establish the trust,   he chooses   certain beneficiaries   that defines God's relationship with his people.   And it's come to my,   to the   front of my,   my,   my aspiration,   my,   my   reason   for doing things is to,   to provide   for the individual Christian man and woman,   the ability   to organize his life and her life   according to a trust settlement   because that's the way God organizes his affair   with us.   And if we want to live   in the fullest enjoyment that God has for us to enjoy the land, the entrusted property, the Lord, our God has given us.   We must organize our lives   as he has organized our relationships   as he has organized   his relationship of his property and his people with us.  

And so what I've decided to do, and we've had people, more people contact us about this,   and I want to get this,   up quick. We've got everything we need to do it. I want to provide,   a trust document   for people. We have 2 trust courses at winters Inn at the law school that we've taught. We want to provide those.   We want to provide   the trust a handbook on trusteeship, which I've got in place now.   And I also want to provide   I wrote a thesis years ago on the fundamental trust relationship that God established with Abraham.   Genesis chapter 15. I want to provide that. That's the fundamental   and that theme then carries throughout the Bible. All of, all of the Bible are the documents of the trust settlement,   including,   including   the land deed   and how that is to be structured. That's the book of Deuteronomy.  

Plus the terms of the trust settlement, the tr terms of land tenancy,   that's what we call today, the 10 commandments,   the 10 Devarim.   Well, that's what we want to teach   them. And I encourage you to go to the course and, and,   of Christian nationhood. So we'll have Christian nationhood, the 2 trust settlement   or the 2 trust courses we taught.   Also, we have a a course on the law of contracts, I believe, is there. The law of promises to help us more   understand the trust settlement because it's a species of the law of promises. It's just one promise,   not exchange of promises,   but that's all there too. I encourage you. Go to the website, commonlawyer.com.  

And,   if you can't find what you need, email us. Maybe there's something we can provide   that would be of help. Commonlawyer.com,   www.commonlawyer.com.   Go to n   n,   in,   well, media. No. That's not it. That's be for things like this. Books. Yeah. Books. That's where we'd find the the books. And then the in, Winter's Inn, that's where you find the courses.   Mhmm.   We'll offer that there probably under books and.  

[02:23:26] Unknown:

There's not a better   resource   bundle   really than comes out of this show, honestly, with all the other things that we've got. And then we got Brent and all of his unbelievable   resources and work product over all these years and just tickled to death, Brent and our well, I gotta thank Larry Beecraft. So, mister Beecraft, thank you very much.  

[02:23:49] Unknown:

Unbeknownst to him. Right? Right.   No. Well, thank you, Roger.  

[02:23:55] Unknown:

Yes. There's Larry. He's got something else. Yes, sir?  

[02:24:15] Unknown:

No. No.   No.   The property records office   is said to put the world on notice. Whether they go look or not, they're held   to the knowledge of what's there   in any given circumstances.   Any given circumstance,   they're held to the knowledge of what is there. And when you file things in the courthouse, usually what you're filing   are,   rights in property   and foremost rights in land.   And if anybody goes to do anything with your land or wants to know anything about it or wants to buy it or thinks they've got a piece, they can go to the courthouse and look and see   if it's all in order. Yep.  

That's what it's all about. Yeah. Yep.  

[02:25:00] Unknown:

Nope. They're not the same. Brent, what about this came up on the show this week. We had a little discussion on it. Are are autograph and signatures the same?  

[02:25:11] Unknown:

Autographs and signatures?  

[02:25:13] Unknown:

Yes.   Or does an autograph hold special   thing or our signature hold special things? I believe we found out that it did, but it was an interesting  

[02:25:24] Unknown:

question I'd never been presented with. Alright. As a practical matter, I've I see that they're synonyms.   What's a synonym? A synonym   synonyms are 2 different words, 2 or more words that stress different aspects of the same thing. Yeah. And I don't see any difference in them, and I don't think any court would would notice any difference. Yep. I think that's a perfect answer. Thank you, sir.  

[02:25:46] Unknown:

I know you're a busy man.   Unless you got anything else to, bequeath us with,   I'm gonna tell you I do, and I'm gonna jet out of here too.  

[02:25:56] Unknown:

Okay. Well, thank you, Roger. Thank all of you for your comments and questions   and your patient listening.   We enjoyed talking to you, and,   maybe I'm giving Roger a little bit break during the week. I try to talk. But, I like it when he talks too.   Yeah. Thank you, Brent. Brent.  

[02:26:14] Unknown:

Thank you. Brent, you're good. Getting away yet, Brent.   Okay.  

[02:26:18] Unknown:

If you if you still have some time, I I have a little bit of a something to say.   Oh, yeah. I had a good question.   Oh. I Okay. A lot of people still think the, the council in ICA was the decision by Constantine on what books would be in the Bible. Well, that was decided a 100, maybe 200 years earlier. The bulk of that was decided.   The Council of Nicaea was what was bothering Constantine, and he wasn't a theologian, he was just trying to get it figured out,   was whether the Trinity   or   which was   represented by,   Athanasius,   as being what is evidenced in the bible versus Arius,   who,   felt it was strict monotheism   and that God created,   Jesus Christ.  

But with that being said, there's plenty of,   information in the bible print on the Trinity and that it it's a good ruling.   However, when Jesus went to the cross,   was the father there with him?   Well, the Bible says that,   father abandoned Jesus Christ on the cross.   Yes. And historically   historically   and that by the way, the well, the worst abandonment,   the greatest pain that our savior suffered was what the old timers,   centuries ago, called the beatific vision   beatific vision.   And that those words aren't in the Bible either, but what they said was when Jesus Christ cried out,   that's right from the New Testament, they put the Aramaic pronunciation in there.  

And   that's the same thing in Hebrew. My God, my God. These are cognate languages, Hebrew and Aramaic. They're almost exactly the same, with some   grammatical   differences.   My God, my law giver, my law giver, why   have you forsaken me? Why? This is Jesus Christ.   God in human flesh asking the ultimate question in his humanity.   But the old timers said,   Jesus Christ   didn't communicate with the father through any medium.   For example, he didn't communicate through the to the father with his eyes. Your eyes are a medium. You say, well, I saw the football game. Well, you probably saw it through a medium of a television or your or something.   But then if you go to the football game, you say, I saw the football game. Well, no, you really didn't see the football game. You saw it through   medium called your eyes, and that was translated into visions in your brain.  

Well, these old timers didn't have all the learning we have today, but they knew a lot more than we did. And they recognize it.   Recognize that   to see something with your eyes is not seeing it directly. They rec it. They understood that   it's seen it in your mind. And they said, Jesus Christ didn't even need eyes because his communion   with the, the rest of the Godhead, I am the father   are   are oneness   oneness, unity.   He was so close to the father that he was in inextricably bound.   He said, well, you have seen me. You have seen the father.   Well, that's a pretty strong statement. And then in the beatific vision, he had what they call the beatific vision. He didn't have to have a medium. He communed with God   in one   that we cannot even comprehend.  

But when he paid the penalty for our sins, he he was beaten half to death.   He was humiliated humiliated.   He was stripped naked and nailed to a post   for people to gawk at.   That was bad enough. But then at some time, they said during that,   God turned his back on his own son.   No, God didn't just deliver   any son. He delivered the uniquely, the menogonas, it says in the Bible, the only begotten John 316,   menogonas,   manogonas,   the only begotten son, the first born   creation,   the father turned his back on him and let him die because Titus tells us they made, they made an agreement among the persons of the Godhead, what each one would do for the redemption   of God's people.  

His elect   is chosen beneficiaries.   And if beneficiaries ain't chosen   and made certain distinguished from other people, there is no trust settlement. But God did all that. They agreed how they would do it, and his job was to pay the penalty,   to purchase back   his elect. And he did,   but it, the price that was paid be was beyond anything any of us could imagine. Now let's get to the council of   Constantinople.   Is that what you said or did you say council of Nicaea?  

[02:31:13] Unknown:

Nicaea.  

[02:31:14] Unknown:

Nice.   Right. 325 ad. Nicaea.   People say, well, they ain't got there and they decided what book to be in the Bible. And people believe that.   Well, people do believe that because some bozo told them that, and people will believe what they're told, won't they? Yes, they will.   Put a diaper on your head or you'll, die, you know? Take the facts or you'll die. No, if we take the facts, we will die. But people believe that,   and people believe it when they say they they've never read the records of the council of Nicaea.   Who's read them?  

Well, you can read them, but people don't. They don't. If they're not going to read the Bible, they're going to read that. No, I didn't read that. They just believe what some Bozo told them.   And there's no place in the history of Christianity   anywhere of any council or any group   professing to have authority ever said, these are the books of the Bible and these aren't, and they didn't do it at Nicaea either. They didn't do it at Constantinople.   And by the way, if you want an even clearer statement on the person of Jesus Christ and who he is, go to the, the Council of   Chalcedon.  

Council of Chalcedon   does a very good job of defining as best as man can.   It's a mystery, but we can draw some circles and say everything with that inside, all teaching with insight, within this boundary, inside this boundary   is   true. Anything outside here   that's that's false   about who Jesus is, but anytime let me repeat again. Anytime Jesus Christ,   man, and God come together,   there's mystery. And where did man and God come together like no place else in the person of Jesus, the Christ.   And isn't it something that in the person where God and man came together, inextricably   bound   Adam's race and the maker of heaven and earth.  

That is the only place   where us mortals can meet God is in the place where God and man came together. Jesus, the Christ, the place of propitiation,   where the blood was spilt and the beatific vision was severed   for a number of hours, 3 hours.   And that was the ultimate penalty that he paid to purchase me and you back.   Well, God help us. So, truth is an important to remember this.   The Bible is enough.   The church councils have no authority.   They have none.   Why are people going to the church councils? There's nothing there. I'm glad that they said what they said, but there's no authority there. The only authority that God recognizes and authorizes   is in that the final authority is in that book, the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God, the laws of nature.  

That's our common law tradition, our observations of the way things are, and they aren't going to change. And the laws of nature is God, the Bible.   That's where we need to be given attention.   Who of the people that promote   the church councils, the Roman priesthood, for example, who of the people that promote the church councils? Oh, the reformers even did that. They were tied to them. The Lutherans go crazy over them. Who of those people really know the Bible? Who really gives attention to God's book?   There's no excuse for any of us to go anywhere else and do much of anything else until we have, we are, we have,   have gotten ourselves   a tolerable   knowledge   of that book.  

And that doesn't mean to know about that book.   That means to know that book, how do you do that? You read it and you listen to other people talk about it. That's how you do it. There is no other method. There is no magic. And if you ain't reading it every day, you, my friend are the part of the problem in our country,   and you're claiming to have authority. You have none. You don't know any think about what the book says. You may have heard a few verses. You've been, may have been going to church all your life, but have you committed yourself to reading it at least 15 minutes a day?   How many days has it been   since you have said a prayer to God and acknowledge his presence?  

That'd be like living in a house with your mother and father when you're a teenager and never acknowledging the presence of your mother or father. That happens all the time. It's wrong, ugly, wrong, but you're living in the household of God in his world.   And you're not just saying, Lord, thank you for this food. Lord, I just want to get up this morning and thank you that I'm north of dirt. And then you're going to use me today for your purposes. I don't know what it is, but I give my mind and my body to you. Thank you very much. And I'm going to get started. Do we even acknowledge him? Roger, were you going to say something? No. I'm just agreeing with you and saying, yeah, I do do this. Oh, yeah. I am.   I've noticed that most of the people that well, a lot of people listen are, the older crowd.  

Okay. We're the older crowd, friends.   It's time we grew up, put on our big boy britches and started acting like men and women and acknowledge that we are creatures.   There is a God is not us. And let's talk to him   and let's find out how sovereign he is. Yep. How powerful he is.   All of his majesty. Now let's talk to him because he opened the way for us. And if you don't, by the way, and you're born from above, he'll whoop you into shape, make it easy on yourself,   make it easy on yourself. But there's no place in the history of the church or anybody ever said, these are the books of the Bible and these aren't. Now there are places   in church history   where the councils even have said, these are the books that we notice,   we acknowledge throughout the Empire   are being used   throughout the Empire or throughout the known world, whatever that was at any particular time of the council.  

And we have, for example, the meritorium fragment,   meritorium fragment fragment, which is a list of books   that they said, hey, these are being used everywhere. These are throughout God's   people being used.   And that fragment is an important piece of evidence, but it is not the Bible.   The Bible   says the Canon is closed. And with the Bible, I believe it's clear to be able   what books are lim, what the, what books are in   the Canon. And all you have to know is what is in and the Bible forbids us from adding to or taking away from don't get caught up in that temptation, listening to those beats of those distant drums in the woods and the jungles and running toward them. Don't do that.   Well, Roger, thank you for trying your best   to to give us a break here and cut us off. These questions are important. I'm glad you asked them, but I do need to go.  



[02:37:46] Unknown:

Me too, Ben. Brent Brent, one question.  

[02:37:49] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:37:51] Unknown:

One one question. I got the same question I had a half hour ago. It takes a one minute answer. Have you seen the Gene Schroeder's Warren emergency powers video,   that's like an hour and 45 minutes long, whatever, where he goes through everything with all the exhibits.  

[02:38:08] Unknown:

From 99? Yeah. There you go. Go ahead. I have, but a long time ago, and I'd like to watch it again. I think it's on the Internet, isn't it? Yeah. We got a better version. Okay.  

[02:38:18] Unknown:

If you look if you look in the chat Just send it to him, Brent. Send it to him, Paul. Please send it to me. If you if you  

[02:38:28] Unknown:

if you look in the chat in Zoom, I sent you the link to that video   and also   the recording from 2 nights ago.   So just grab those right on the Zoom chat.  

[02:38:42] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. That's Rich. I appreciate you. Thanks. Alright. See you, Brent, next Friday. Have a good, Saturday. Yeah.  

[02:38:50] Unknown:

Okay. Thank you. Bye.  

[02:38:52] Unknown:

Ciao ciao.   Thank you, Brad. Alright. Thank you. See you tomorrow.   Have a good, good show today. Thank you for,   being involved. Hope you got something out of it. See you tomorrow. We'll try again.  

[02:39:06] Unknown:

Alright. Let's do it.   Coming up tomorrow, the Sabadeau edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.   This is the this has been the Friday edition with Brent Allen Winters and Roger Sales.   We are the Radio Ranch. We're on Eurofolkradio.comglobalvoiceradio.net,   as well as a host of other platforms that we mentioned at the beginning of the show. Thank you so much for joining us today. You'll catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11 am to 1 pm Eastern. For more information on the topics discussed, please go to the matrixdocs.com.   That is the matrix, d o c s.com.  

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