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In this episode, we delve into the evolving landscape of Bitcoin and digital assets, particularly focusing on the recent policy changes in El Salvador. The government is shifting its stance, making Bitcoin acceptance voluntary for the private sector while restricting public sector involvement. Taxes will remain in US dollars, and the government's participation in the crypto wallet, Chivo, will be reduced. This move aims to enhance transparency and regulation to safeguard financial stability and consumer protection.

We also discuss the broader implications of digital currencies, including the potential for Bitcoin to serve as a reserve currency globally. The conversation touches on the technical advancements in Bitcoin's infrastructure, such as the development of layers 1, 2, and 3 to improve transaction speed and interoperability.

Additionally, the episode explores personal financial strategies in the context of digital currencies, emphasizing the importance of understanding risks and leveraging Bitcoin's growth potential. We also touch upon the controversial nature of Bitcoin's origins and its comparison to traditional assets like gold and real estate.

The discussion extends to the societal impacts of digital currencies, including their role in financial independence and the challenges posed by traditional financial systems. We also reflect on historical perspectives and the influence of major financial institutions on the global economy.

Finally, we explore the cultural and philosophical aspects of currency, examining how perceptions of value and trust have evolved over time, particularly in the context of technological advancements and societal changes.

[00:00:01] Unknown:

And, here it is. I got it now. So let me just read it. It's a short paragraph,   and it's very clear.   Based on digital assets, the potential risks for Bitcoin project will be diminished significantly   in line with fund policies,   IMF, of course. Legal reforms will make acceptance of Bitcoin by the private sector   voluntary.   For the public sector, engagement in Bitcoin related economic activities and transactions   in and purchases of Bitcoin   will be confined.   Taxes will only be paid in US dollars and the government's participation in the crypto e wallet, Shivo,   will be gradually unwound.  

Transparency,   regulation, and supervision of digital assets will be enhanced to safeguard financial stability,   consumer and investor protection, and financial integrity.   The average guy in, El Salvador can still use Bitcoin. The average business can still use Bitcoin.   They're just restricting the the government policies   regarding Bitcoin,   for the upgrade,   which I,   you know, I it might be a good deal for the government down here right now, but they're never gonna get rid of it. As far as Roger's new book, I haven't I've I had it on order, and I'm I'm waiting to get it. And I listened to the Tucker Carlson,   comments about it.  

And it's just Roger back to the same old same old stuff that he was preaching way back then about these companies that funded Bitcoin. But it didn't slow him down back then.   He was all for it even though he already knew about all these companies   as did everybody else.   My position is is, you know, I've been waiting for years years years for everything to blow up, supposed to happen. And I restricted my activities and   essentially hidden in different ways,   to   wait for the big collapse that's coming or all these other things that are coming.   And, frankly, the more I've worked with digital currencies and the US government, you know, because I'm a series 7. I mean, I was in the securities industries, the insurance industry, the mortgage industry. I was doing all that stuff.  

And even though I knew about these different things, this is the way things functioned.   And people were using it   who understood the law to their advantage.   But the point is is that   you gotta take advantage of what's available to you right now,   knowing what the risks are   and taking advantage of things like Bitcoin.   Bitcoin still is going to be a tremendous   vehicle   because it it's it is this thing that's on the loose.   They can't really control it.   It is not the original vision   that they had for Bitcoin to be a,   a consumer product. However,   since everything is advanced in the digital arena,   you now have the main Bitcoin chain   which is gonna be the main chain for all investment assets primarily.  

They'll lock them all down on that chain.   And what they're doing is inventing what they call layer 1, 2, and 3   to actually handle transactions which will be bulk processed into the chain itself.   That's how they're gonna accelerate the speed   and the interoperability   of these coins with different countries and locations.   So I've not changed my method,   of what I'm doing. I do not use the US dollar unless I have to, and I never leave money in banks.   And I don't have any more insurance products.   Nothing.   The insurance investments   were really the best ones to use, but if you're out there and wanna play with risk, then you're gonna be in the stock markets.  

So, I was always risk averse. And besides, you know, life insurance products are the best thing going. You can put all your money in the life insurance product, take the money out of the product,   tax free,   have simple interest payments on it, and you don't have to even make the payment,   invest it into something else, and then put the money back and just go back and forth with your own tax free tax wrapper.   There's nothing else out there like it,   and there's really no limit to the amount of money you can do that with.   Anyway, just my 2¢.  

Roger's gotta get some kind of help. I'd really   am fascinated by the   idea that they can he can leave the country. He can actually expatriate,   and,   they're pulling him back in under these false charges. It just shows the corrupt corrupt nature of this whole business.   I don't know, you know, if he was a national he might even actually have more power,   but he went the expatriation rule.   Anyway, just my 2¢. Take it for what it's worth.  

[00:04:50] Unknown:

You mentioned the article,   about the El Salvador.   Where where is that at?  

[00:05:01] Unknown:

Did you say there was a downloaded copy of that book by Schof that's available for free?  

[00:05:11] Unknown:

Yes. It's,   it's on,   Sat are you on the chat in the chat?  

[00:05:17] Unknown:

I've been listening in and out. I've been doing some other things. So, no, I'm not on the chat because I've been in Yes. There is a there is a a downloadable and a printable one on  

[00:05:28] Unknown:

satcom just a minute.   Satcom,   satcom911.com.   But if you if you punch in on the search engine, it should   come up with a p with PDF.   The title,   the name of the author,   and PDF, you'll it should come up on it came up on Yandex.  

[00:05:54] Unknown:

What does You're kinda cutting out.  

[00:05:56] Unknown:

John, can you get in the chat now and I'll repost it? I'm yeah. I'm in the chat right now.  

[00:06:13] Unknown:

There are a number of other people that have won court cases. There are actual published court cases of people winning against the banks on these deals.   This is, you know, before   I   I was working with Roger when he was doing and out there the rest of my time, I was even dealing with my own mortgage problems, and that's how I knew about a lot of that stuff.   Quite a number of other books are written too,   but I don't know what's happened to all of them. And since I don't have a mortgage anymore,   no big deal.   It's this one here, Tom Schauff is America's   America's hope.  

How to cancel banks.   Is this a short version of that book?   Oh, this is volume 1.   Oh, it's a good size. 259   pages.  

[00:07:03] Unknown:

Right. Volume 2, I said volume   The technical guide to volume 1,   but I haven't found that for download.  

[00:07:15] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Thanks for finding   it. Another good one to add to my library.  

[00:07:28] Unknown:

It's also on archive.org,   John.   Okay. Yeah. But Paul said it was for borrowing only, that you could not download it.   Oh, I missed that. Thank you, Sherry.  

[00:07:48] Unknown:

You're welcome.  

[00:07:59] Unknown:

Well, thank you very much. I'll see you guys later.  

[00:08:01] Unknown:

One more thing, John.   I don't know if you heard me mention,   new book,   Hacking   Bitcoin.   There's some interviews on the Solari report,   with the author,   and, it's pretty interesting   what they discuss.  

[00:08:25] Unknown:

Well, I heard,   I heard her on Greg Huntress'   show,   and it's apparent to me that she doesn't understand Bitcoin.   Well, yes. She really does.  

[00:08:39] Unknown:

Yeah. This book though,   the one of the titles of the videos, if you do not understand   Bitcoin, you need to read this book. It's called hijacking  

[00:08:49] Unknown:

Bitcoin.   Isn't that Roger Ver's new book?   I'm not sure the author. Yeah. That's it. Hijacking Bitcoin.  

[00:09:00] Unknown:

Okay. Yep.  

[00:09:02] Unknown:

Yep. Okay. Well, again, you you if if you go back to when   when all this was known already and and Roger's still promoting it,   and now he comes up with the book and he's putting this out. I'm I wanna read the book. I just wanna see what he has to say.   But,   it wouldn't change my mind now about working with Bitcoin,   not in not any way shape or form.   Just because it's not working   essentially the way Rogers wants it to work from the root, which means just the original Bitcoin chain   where it is a consumer product where you're using it, I guess, a currency.   It's being created as a store of value   because that is what it is.  

Right. Now the layers 1, 2, and 3 that they're putting in there will give you the capability   of using it as a currency if you want to.   I don't do that.   I leave it right in the chain and and and sequestered there because,   you know, I don't put it on on any of these   trading platforms or things like that,   because they can't be hacked. That's where you lose your money. But if you keep it right on the main chain, they can't get at your money and they can't take it from you. The only way they can take it from you is if you give them the keys.   Now they might haul you into a dark room, beat the hell out of you, you know, do all kinds of stuff. And, yeah, you might give up your your keys.  

But,   other than that, they can't get at it.   Now   all these other coins that are out there that all have a vice president and they've got a corporation behind them and stuff like that,   you know, that those are gonna be digital coins that the people are gonna use and there's gonna be beneficial coins. There's gonna be quite a few of them. I think every country probably even have its own eventually.   But when you see all of the governments and all of the private,   sources   using Bitcoin as a reserve currency,   it's gonna be around for quite a while.  

And right now is an opportunity for you to ride the wave.   This is not gonna be small, and it's gonna be stunningly fast.   Even small amounts of money, small amounts of Bitcoin   are going to go up very rapidly.   It's gonna be 100 of times multiples.   And it's not an investment idea. It is the fact that   all of the investment side of the country   is is going this way.   Look. You're still using a dollar.   It's corrupt as hell.   It's based on, you know, as Roger was going over today,   it's it is what it is. And all the other international banks and stuff are all involved in the same thing. So you gotta use the tools that are available to you right now as long as you understand what you're using.   There is absolutely no other way to project your money better than you have owning Bitcoin,   even small amounts of it. You can get,   Cash App, I guess, is one of those things where you can even just get it on your phone. You can buy $10, $5, $20, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter what the dollar amount is.  

It's going to accelerate and increase   at the rate Bitcoin   accelerates and increases   because the whole world is going towards it.   So if you wanna get yourself set,   you can use the increases.   And and the whole idea behind Bitcoin is you don't sell it.   The only reason I ever trade for it,   sometimes is because   I don't have a   a satisfactory   place to borrow against it because that's what you do. You can literally do what I was doing with insurance policies, only it's even better,   because you you you've got an increasing asset   that's increasing roughly at 60% per year. That's the rate of growth. 60 to 40 to 60% per year compound and it's accelerating.  

So any dollars you put in there, you're going to be able to get tremendous multiples   over the next few years for sure.   And then you can convert it to to goods and services if you want to, but   I don't even wanna own real estate anymore   because I'm locked here. I don't wanna be locked into any place. So if I wanted to move down there,   I   can take my assets with me because they're all online and in Bitcoin.   You you gotta work with what's available.   So I'm gonna read Roger's book to see what he's saying now, but   we'll see.  

Anyway, just my my 2¢.   Thank you.  

[00:13:45] Unknown:

John, and that's the problem. They've been lying   they've been lying to us,   making everybody believe their currency.   And, if you notice, it's property. It's an asset.   And even you have to pay taxes,   you it's capital gain.   And,   and, for example, Russia   I mean,   Russia,   is passing a law to make it also property and asset.   And they're and they're they always call it crypto,   but the truth is it's a savings. It's like putting money in the bank.   And, it's not really meant for a transaction to buy to buy to buy coffee every day.   It's it's it's real estate. It's a property.  



[00:14:30] Unknown:

Well, it can be. You can use it that way, and that's what lightning is.   Right?   Right. The thing is is what They can't do it. Bitcoin   the way you work with Bitcoin is you borrow against it. You accumulate as much as you can and you borrow against it.   You never sell it   because  

[00:14:49] Unknown:

And that's that's the problem that most   and most people don't understand why would you want to, sell the Bitcoin if you have or Satoshi   and knowing that's gonna go up for the next 10, 20 years.   So it wouldn't only if you have to, but you should transact with all your dollars or whatever, your everyday life. But once you're able to put one and you know you're not gonna, use it for a long period of time, why would you want to get rid of it with something that's the only way it's gonna go is going going up. Even even if it attracts back 20%,   30%, it's always gonna go on the long run up. And it's gonna keep absorbing. That's when most absorbing   every asset in the world   from bonds, from everything, from property, everything.  

So that market cap is gonna be 1,000,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000,000. I already passed silver   as a market cap, and I guess the next goal is,   gold.   So most people just can't comprehend it.  

[00:15:50] Unknown:

Well, there's already a lot of people selling gold and moving into Bitcoin.   It's called the bond station.  

[00:15:57] Unknown:

That's what we call it. And you're absolutely right. One reason that gold   has been suppressed all this year for 30, 40, 50 years,   but now as a competitor,   and that's Bitcoin. So the younger generation,   instead of buying gold, they're buying the,   Bitcoin.   And, and the other cryptos   forget about them. If you know what you're doing, you're and you know about Ethereum, or you know any of the things, it's great.   But, it's a different completely dynamics.  

[00:16:30] Unknown:

Yes. And can be controlled. All of the rest of the control.   Right.  

[00:16:36] Unknown:

And what and the reason that that sometimes it backtracking now with the ETF   is is like housing. If nobody would be able to buy a house without usury,   the value of the house would go 50, 60%. But at the end, it would still hold certain value each house if people cannot get a loan now. And so the ETF   is just making it grow and grow and and go to a 100,000. Eventually, it'll be 200, 300.   And, and because now they're,   all this, Heiko, you said, institution   are creating ETF in the back of the bit Bitcoin.  

[00:17:14] Unknown:

Not just ETFs. That's just one version of what's going on.  

[00:17:18] Unknown:

Yeah. Right. These these,  

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countries and   organizations that are gonna follow,   Michael Sailor's   method   of creating a a strategic reserve for their organizations and their companies.  

[00:17:31] Unknown:

Those won't be ETFs. It's incredible. And they'll be subject He he's not in the They'll be sub He's not in the software business no more. He's just using that as a an excuse, and he keeps on buying buying Bitcoin   and expanding it. And, and now I think it became one of the Fortune 500 companies   just because the market cap.  

[00:17:53] Unknown:

Yes. You did. Yeah. Absolutely.   Well, y'all, So it's it's a tool. It's just another tool in your quiver that you can use to kinda take care of yourself.  

[00:18:04] Unknown:

Quick question.  

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If you were going to buy a hard wallet today, what which one would you buy?  

[00:18:11] Unknown:

I like the tree Trezor,   t r e z o r. And I like them because   they're easy to use.   They're inexpensive.   Trezor is the company that invented the hardware wallet.  

[00:18:26] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[00:18:27] Unknown:

There are other ones out there that you can buy. Some are Bitcoin only wallets, and they go through all these crazy measures of   getting piece of metal, a bunch of different kinds of metal and stamping out, you know, hard things. I mean, you can create your own   hardware key,   and and I I think I put some,   videos about how to do that. You can go down and buy a bolt and a bunch of washers and,   you know, a dye. There's a whole kit that will help you do it. You can make your own hardware wallet if you want to. I don't mean for the Bitcoin. I mean, for to store your keys.   Because if you lose the keys, you don't have access to your, to your funds. That's the point.  

So,   but I like the tree resource.   They're easy to use and very good. If you don't have   one of hard an actual hardware wallet,   you can use an Exodus wallet.   Exodus is a hardware wallet online version.   It's not an exchange. Exchanges are where people end up losing their money to other people that   are able to get access to their accounts because of   trading.   So you gotta be careful with that too.   Thank you, John. Trading is crazy. If you're you know, the person that can do it, great. But I   Most of them lose their money.   So that's another reason to hang on to your Bitcoin because   you got if you borrow against it and you lose the money that you lost, well, just   the increase in the value of Bitcoin because of the growth of the absorption of the   net asset value based upon all of the assets on the planet,   it it would be years   years years before you could ever ever reach the end of that.  



[00:20:19] Unknown:

John, I know somebody that some pocket.   He has a wallet of Exodus,   and but he uses,   his spare chains.   He he he has money,   and,   he probably I don't know. He probably has a 100,000 there. But what he uses for, he,   when he knows he knows all the shards   and and and all this, so he uses that because that, wallet, you're able to switch   or or   change from 1 from, let's say, Bitcoin to Ethereum or to a stable coin,   and he's making a killing.   And,  

[00:20:59] Unknown:

and Oh, that's true. In Exodus, you can convert you can convert from one coin to the other in Exodus.   And so it could be a mini trading platform, but,  

[00:21:09] Unknown:

he's But he does it, and and he's in a so he's not he's not a young person. He's around 60 years old, and but he really knows I I couldn't do it, but he really knows what he's doing. He hasn't even showed me. These guys have I says, like, for example, and it went to from,   to a 108,000.   He knew based on this and this that it was gonna go back   91, so he sold it. He put in a stable coin a stable coin,   and then, he rebought it back when it was, 92 or something like that.   And, but you gotta know what you're doing.   And, he's been doing this in the in the regular stock market for for decades, so he knows what he's doing. But I would not recommend. But I would never thought that he would be able to do that in a regular wallet   or at least in the desktop,  

[00:21:55] Unknown:

type of wallet like Exodus. Well, there's a trade off. The trade off is is that going through that conversion process, there's some high fees. But if you're if you're knocking down a 100%   or 2,   the excess fees don't don't mean anything. They're very small,   especially in the net present value of of the fee   based upon fees.  

[00:22:15] Unknown:

About that.   Yeah. And he doesn't, he doesn't do it with, you know, a $100, 200. Like, he does because that's on 10 or $20 or so. The fee that he gets charged really high,   it doesn't   matter because he's You know? He's making a big difference.  

[00:22:32] Unknown:

I could have done that, but   I I don't need to.   Bitcoin is gonna go up, and it's going up so dramatically   that I don't   I get the gains without even worrying about trying to trade for more.   You know, I I have a lot of other things to do, so   I can't sit there and watch it. But you you're right. It's always see, the reason they get this pullback all the time, which is a feature of Bitcoin that can go up and down is is because you have all the speculators and the traders that run it up.   There's a whole cadre of levels of people that come in on so they see it riding up, they just throw money in there because they wanna just wanna try to ride the wave and hope they get out before it comes down.   So when we have those kind of dynamics going on   and you've seen the cycles the way they they run,   over the years, just just following the charts so you don't have to get detailed,   it always has a pullback feature. Every time they run it up real fast, it's gonna come back a little bit. So you can always play that game. Anybody can do that part of it,   and you don't have to worry about losing anything.  



[00:23:37] Unknown:

And what their devs are to call, they have to sell whatever they have in the app and then and Bitcoin I'm not Gong or very a very liquid, so they just sell it real fast to pay their   their debts. I  

[00:23:50] Unknown:

I prefer a different way to do that.   The way I would do it is is I would take a loan   on the Bitcoin,   use the loan to buy more Bitcoin.   It it becomes a never ending process that you can do, and you never borrow against the whole plan of thing. You're only gonna take, what, 10, 15%,   20% maybe on a loan basis and turn around and dollar cost average back into Bitcoin with it,   that Bitcoin is gonna grow as fast as the whole market, which gives you more borrowing power.   And you can just do that with 15, 20% of it on a on an ongoing basis forever   without really risking any. You're trying to you're  

[00:24:34] Unknown:

trying to follow it more or less with a micro strategy or micro state is doing?  

[00:24:41] Unknown:

Well, I'm I'm I'm I'm doing what the real smart money does, And smart money are the guys that make it really simple and easy and,   you know, you don't have to spend hours and hours trying to   watch it. Now   some people get a real kick out of watching that graph. I mean, they just they just spend all their time watching the charts.   I can't I don't wanna do that. I got a life.   Well, I mean, I have a lot of problems. That's that's Let's put it that way.   You're for you. I I I know the the   Yeah. I need to go. I'll see you guys later. Bye.  

[00:25:34] Unknown:

That's Bruce.   Bitcoin sounds like a lot of sense to me.  

[00:25:47] Unknown:

Yeah. I agree with you. Even even though I'm more more of a physical guy, I need to touch the things and hold it in my hand, like those things.   So it's   it takes it takes time,   it takes some time of,   to reverse your thinking. You know? And the way I look at it, you know, you would never thought that, all the books   that you will have. Now you could have all your   download the book. You can have all in the little SD card shit,   and then destroy all the videos like blockbuster   also went to digital.   So there's there's certain truth with,   the digital money or whatever you wanna talk about, digital gold.  

This just takes some time to   reprogram your mind in this, new,   I guess, era.  

[00:26:36] Unknown:

So yeah. I tell I tell you one thing you have to do first   is give people   the idea   that they have been brainwashed to think that the Federal Reserve note is not a debt.   That's the big problem.   They think that's money. They think it's valuable.   It is a debt note.   Everything that the Federal Reserve puts out is a debt note.  

[00:27:09] Unknown:

And we've been already working with digital because, yeah, we're on dollar, but,   9 out of 10,   40, 50 year old under   when they go to buy something or gas station or   or a restaurant or whatever, they're paying already with their credit card, digital.   And Right. They   I know I know a couple of people that make good six figure really high six figure, and they never had one physical dollar   in in their in the wallet.   And,   everything so it's not a big difference, and you have this fear,   creator of nothing,   then you think you have all of all your money in in a vault. And, and we see those old movies that,   you know, the robber comes in and steals all the money. That's not true. When you   it's a high-tech technology. I had a I I I I play with the numbers in the computer and the data so you could steal it, and and that's not easy for those,   you know, computer,   technical guys. Yeah. I'm not. I just know the basics. But,   yeah, but they had made us believe that it's in   there. But,   it's just a transition from   one fake   scam to another fake scam of Bitcoin or whatever you wanna call it. But that is the future.  

So all of us, if we would have bought in 2011   and you would have put 2 or $300,   the only thing that's skyrocketing percent is why compared to any other thing,   including   the, Bitcoin has outbeat them not by 1% 3, but by 100 of percent.   So,   I knew about it a little bit, and I regretted not doing it.   But, and another thing is, now everybody's, oh, I can't buy it because it's a it's I I can't I can't afford a $100,000 or whatever the number is now. Bitcoin. Forget about that.   It's Satoshi.   And what you need to do is every time you ask very little shame, go buy a couple of Satoshis,   and, it'll it'll add up in the next decade.  



[00:29:18] Unknown:

It'll gain value.  

[00:29:25] Unknown:

How much would a 100,000   worth of Bitcoin cost   today?  

[00:29:32] Unknown:

1 Bitcoin is 100,000   more or less. Oh.  

[00:29:36] Unknown:

So one bit. What does that  

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cost?   1.  

[00:29:43] Unknown:

What do you mean was what is called 1 Bitcoin?  

[00:29:46] Unknown:

What what what what,   the price of 1 Bitcoin?  

[00:29:51] Unknown:

The price It's approximately a $100,000  

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now. Oh, oh, I would have to give a $100,000   for 1 Bitcoin?  

[00:29:59] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:30:01] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[00:30:03] Unknown:

For example, when mister Sailor bought it 4 years ago,   he I think the first, batch that he got was around   $9,000,   and I think was 2020.   So,   and the first ETF or now they're able to buy it through the stock exchange.   I I think it started at,   January of this year, and that's when   it went even crazier. And that's why it's gone from 30, 40, 50 all the way now to and then hold on for about half a year around 60, 70,   and now it just blew up to to   after the election. In fact, I think   yeah. Doing the election was around 70,   60, or 50 something.  

And now because, mister   Trump and other people and Elon Musk saying they're gonna do, some Bitcoin reserve or something like that,   and so that skyrocketed to a 100.   Oh.   It'll it'll backtrack probably to 91 or or even even it might go all the way to 75.   But if you're there in the long run, it'll just   come back, and they'll just keep on going because people are waking up.  

[00:31:10] Unknown:

Right. And it's it it just keeps yeah. Go ahead.  

[00:31:14] Unknown:

Can't you just buy fractions   of Bitcoin,   invest just a certain amount of money   for Joan's information?   You don't have to buy one  

[00:31:23] Unknown:

one whole Bitcoin, Jones. Although, we in fact, many of us, even if we don't understand, we start   start thinking about Satoshi   instead of Bitcoin. Because Satoshi I don't know. I don't remember now, but it's whatever it's, it's certain it's like a $100. You would   need $101   bill to get a $100.   So instead of focusing the $100 bill, you focus on whatever you can. $3 to that. And, yes, and there's apps or wallet, whatever you wanna call it, and you could put it in your phone. And every time you have some spare change, just convert it to Bitcoin   and just leave it there and just forget about it. Like John said, you don't need to be washing that thing. Even because   30% down,   you know in the long run, it's gonna be 5 year, 2 years, and then you could be your retiring fund, whatever. And even if you never have a a a complete Bitcoin because we started late, you will have a quarter, a 10%,   whatever that amount of satoshi is.  

Yes.   So, yeah, you have a point 0 0 1. And then you look at your wallet and then, oh my god. I have $6,000,   and I just bought,   whatever, $300 2 years ago.   But you have to be prepared that   in my backtrack, you know, if you if you bought a a $100,000   cost, you might backtrack 20,000,   30,   but that's the nature of,   of, the volatility.   You know, the dollar or any other currency   was very unstable at the beginning,   but it has a 100 years to mature.   So you could say you could say that Bitcoin is a taller now, maybe getting to be a teenager.   And most of us, when we're a taller teenager,   we were a little bit wild, and we would do dumb things. Oh, that's how Bitcoin is. It's only been 10 years   or whatever, 12, whatever the number is.  



[00:33:19] Unknown:

I don't know how much was the Bitcoin,   when it started,   12 did you say 2011?  

[00:33:25] Unknown:

I think it was, like, 4¢ or something.   And   the biggest problem, there was no wallet, and so you had to,   print a paper to keep the key. So it was, like, it was, like, very weird.   And, and,   you will need certain amount.   But then it became $1, and then it went up. I forgot to a 100, and it took another year, and it came back down. And and, when I   found out about it so I understood it better, and I never got into it. I think it was   2017,   something like that. It was 2 or 3,000. I thought these people are crazy paying 3,000 percent commercial.   And look at that. And within   7, 8 years,   it's a $100,000.  

So it's just   so I cannot imagine 10 year mister Sailor,   the he's the he's,   the one that has been convinced. Everybody thought he was crazy because, you know, he   has a a multi $100,000,000   company.   And,   and so he start advocating for Bitcoin   and trying to convince all his his level, you know, stock market, governments, and and other,   high institution.   And he thought that was crazy. So he went to the board director and said, you know, we're gonna get our extra reserve because this company will not survive 10 years with 15, 20%   of,   of, inflation.  

Our company will be destroyed, but we're gonna convert our extra asset.   And they bought it, whatever the number is, 8, 9,000,   and they went up to about 25 and then went back down. People thought it was crazy.   And now I think it's the either number 1, number 2, as an institution that holds more Bitcoin than anybody. I think it was, like, 500, and he's done with John says. He creates it. When it goes in value, he goes and asks for another loan   by backing up with security with the Bitcoins they already has, and it keeps on buying. So the,   the soft   software company   is not a soft com company no more. It's just an excuse, and that company has become   a Bitcoin holder.  

And all the board directors are getting rich and rich and rich.   But when he did this 4 years ago, he was the 1st institution to start buying Bitcoin.   And, everybody thought it's crazy.   So he say he doesn't want property. He doesn't want car. He doesn't want a a Manhattan property   or rental problem or anything that's old. He doesn't want gold.   He's just buying Bitcoin. Now   who knows the future?   Supposedly, if the nuclear bomb falls and all the electronic   goes capooks, you lose your money. Well but that could happen with anything else, I guess. I don't know.   But I would start, like,   Sherry said, I would start a little bit. Start knowledge is power. And, you know, start learning how to get a wallet in your computer or in your phone, and then whatever. Spend only   $20, 15, and start. You know? It's like reading the Bible. You don't know the whole Bible at one time. You're you're gonna have 1 verse and 2 verse, and you you study. And and it and it grows on you until you feel comfortable to either keep on adding or stop.  



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So Bitcoin is like the stock market. It can go up and down and but it but gold stays   only goes up and up.   Gold never goes down.   It and but Bitcoin   can go up and down?  

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Yeah. Well, there's been the history. Like, every 4 years when it goes up and it breaks a new record, has even gone down. I we all know the future will do it again, but it has gone down 80%.   But then it goes back up, and this time, it won't go up 80%. It will go   a 150%.   So for example, I don't remember now, but it broke the record compared to 2017 and 2020,   21.   It went from 30 up to   65,000   if I remember right.   And then it just went back down within a year.   It went back to about 20,000,   but it never went back to the original 10. So it went back 20,   and then it took another year, and it broke to 65. And now we're   we're in a 100.  

So   so it might go down from a 100 to 75   because it's sort of volatile, but what's happening   is absorbing   every every treasury,   every property.   If China outlaws it, then the people don't wanna hold one and they convert it to Bitcoin.   And, Venezuela   dictatorship or or how could how could I save my money? I need to get in the airport. People converting here.   All of the inflation, my daughter's not doing it. So everybody,   either institution or individual,   are putting 5%, 10%, whatever you the number they fill or whatever the wealth.   They want something that's   some people call it perfect money that you could transfer it. For example,   if you're in Costa Rica and you wanna take $10,000,   $20,000   on a in the airport, it it's gonna be very tricky.  

Okay? And you cannot take gold bars or you cannot take your property.   But you only only need to know your words and your passwords and your wallet, and you're able to transfer to anywhere in the world,   the amount of, Bitcoin you're at. Now the problem is,   there's, like, 10,000,   cryptos.   Bitcoin is not a crypto.   The other ones,   Ethereum, the 2nd place, is not a saving. It's like John says, somebody control it. Somebody's the head of the of the corporate or whatever because that Ethereum the other coins   are   crappy coins. You are really speculating. You're risking it.  

But this, you need to say whatever you know you're not gonna use and just forget about it. Just put a little bit portion there for whatever it is and just forget about it. And   you're gonna receive more percentage   or or   or or it's gonna grow in in,   in the price eventually.   So Michael Saylor that I would call the king of this and at the beginning, I didn't know, so I've been watching him for 4 years, and everything he has said is true.   Now he thinks   that by the year I forgot.   By absorbing   every wealth   from every direction,   the bond market,   the stock market, the gold,   etcetera. Little by little is absorbing all these things, it'll be worth by 9 2045   or something. I don't remember it's 2045, 2050.  

He he made the numbers. If everybody start absorbing Bitcoin, it'll be worth $13,000,000.   So,   20 years from now. 30 or 13?  

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$13,000,000.   13,000,000.   13.  

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Yeah. Yeah. 13.   13,000,000   that we don't have.   13,000,000  

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in 20 years. So if somebody has the Bitcoin worth   the 100,000,   can they cash it in somehow and buy a $100,000   house with it?  

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Yeah.   Now you got concerned about the the tax loophole because, you know, these creepy people   about the dollars.   Anything that you convert back a house,   gold, anything,   Bitcoin, once you convert it back to dollars and let's say you bought something for 5,000, now you,   set it for 10,000,   you have capital gains. Now you have to pay taxes.   Now and that's a a question I have for for Mark or somebody that knows more than me about that.   We know that when you become a national,   you don't have to pay income taxes once you   report or use   you do your verification going to,   to the IRS.  

The only question I have   and that's your income. That's your your labor.   But do you have to pay taxes   once that you bought it for a 100,000? You saw your Bitcoin or whatever, 300,000.   Do you have to pay? Or as a national, you don't.   Supposedly, I heard the other day, you don't, but I'm not sure about that. So we need to ask somebody that knows more in reference to stocks or or to interest bearing things or or in this case, this Bitcoin has been declared,   in a second away, it's been declared as a property.   It's not a currency.  

So   you if you sell it, is it then becomes like like a regular property, like a house, like a duplex, like a rental property.   You will have to pay capital gain if there's a gain in the value of what you sold.   But, yes, you're able to buy a house.   But what John is saying, why would you want to sell Bitcoin   if you know that's gonna keep on going higher and higher? So what you think, you take a loan   against Bitcoin   and you buy the house.   And, so let's say you bought out for a $100,000.   So you took a, and, Bitcoin is worth a 150.   So now you take a loan again, so whatever the interest bearing.  

But and within a year later, that Bitcoin that you did not sell   might be worth 200, 300,   and you're able to pay off the house.   But meanwhile,   you have a loan with a supposedly a low bearing interest,   so you're able to use as equity  

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as you you know what they were talking today. Right? You buy you buy a house on, Justin. Hang on. Take a breath. How do you if you're not supposed to sell it, how do you pay the loan?  

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Well, supposedly, you pay with the loan. And like he said, it all depends on your situation. You get 15, 20% gain. You don't get,   a 100% just in case it goes down value. Maybe in your case, you you have a good job. You pay your loan, your your your your regular job,   but you do not sell the Bitcoin.   So anybody   that bought a Bitcoin, $3,000   and and, because they bought it at 3 and it went up to 10,000, I said, oh,   I'm gonna sell my Bitcoin because I made $7,000.   He re right today, you asked any of them. Everybody regrets because now it went up to 20, and then it went to a 100, and now you don't have it. And you said, oh, I should not sold it.  

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Okay. Okay.   So   who you're saying you can go to the bank   with your Bitcoin wallet   and show them,   hey. Look. I got,   you know, I got this, $250,000   in Bitcoin.   I need to borrow money to,   against it to, buy a house. They're gonna Right. They're gonna loan you money against that Bitcoin?  

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Not regular banks because banks are just in dollars.   You have to go to a to a private   or an exchange.   They they   eventually, it looks like regular banks will also hold Bitcoin, but at this moment, no. So you go to exchange Okay. Let me let me back you up a minute. Well Let me back you up a minute.  

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You you're, you're pretty, biblical.   What's the one world currency in the bible?  

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I don't remember now.   I'm, like, blacked out right now.  

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Okay. Well, I think it's digital,   but it's not I mean, it it it   see, to me,   I could take a stack of gold,   put it on the table, a stack of silver, put it on the table, and then put my virtual wallet, which doesn't exist   on the table. Oh, wait a minute. I can't put it on the table.   Let me put my Bitcoin on the table. Oh, wait a minute. I can't put my Bitcoin on the table. Turn off the lights. What do you got left? You got a stack of gold? I have And you got a stack of silver.  

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And this is the this is the problem I had 10 years ago or 8 years ago.   Me too. For me. Gold and silver. Gold is god's money. No? He put it there, sir. And I think it's gonna next 5000 years is is you're absolutely right. But I I I'm reversing you. You put a book, a physical book. Right? And you have it there the same way that it started up. But you turn off light, and you still have book. But now you have all these books, PDF, or whatever   on a on a on a little, SD card shit, you know, computer, and you still have a book to read. It's just a different way of looking at it. I don't believe I hear you.   You were not we're talking about usury,   you know, and all this long. It's   evil. You know? And we say arsenal me?  



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I I believe that the banks created Bitcoin   just like they created   these cryptos   to suck us into their one world currency. That's  

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that's the usury I I I believe in that. I believe in in certain points and that. But what shows do you have? Right now, we call ourselves a Christian nation.   So as a Christian nation, all us that we call ourselves biblical or Christian you know, as soon as you use the credit card or as soon as you go take out a loan, you are unbiblical   no matter what you're telling me. And the don't even talk about this. You know, something years ago,   the United States and all Christian nation, it was against the law to do anything with usury. I don't care if it was 3% or 11%   or or, like, the credit card, 30%.  

And if people now look at it like something normal,   and it's not normal. Now when you go with Bitcoin, there's there's not too much choice than we have because they're scamming us with the regular dollars.   They're scamming with us with the inflation, with taxes, whatever. So the only thing that the little people, by what I see and I didn't understand this very clear 3, 40 years. The this cap, they cannot supposedly, they cannot print no more than 21,000,000   Bitcoin.   But the dollar or the yellow, they could keep on printing, printing, and devalue everything. Sure. Bitcoin, they've been trying to that's why they created all these cryptos.  

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Dutch money. Guess what? How do you buy gold, silver, or   Bitcoin or crypto   with dollars?   You know, it's like they want our dollars to,   you know,   they have to buy gold coins in TV.   Send me your dollars to buy these gold coins or silver coins. It's same thing with with crip or Bitcoin. You gotta use dollars to buy it.  

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I think some guys don't allow anybody else to speak here or what the hell. I mean, the biblical question here to ask, is this is this a,   an equitable   weighted measurement   of wealth?   And   I just can't believe   that   it is.   It's gonna be   excluding   most of the population   ultimately   just like everything else.   And it's gonna be,   I think, ultimately traceable   because   AI is gonna break every piece of encryption ever made to man.  

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Right. And that's why if some you have a $100 on your wealth, do not pull all your $100.   But, you know, the same thing for some people who have stock money in there, whatever it is. But right now, there's nothing that's keeping up with inflation.   So if you have some spare, don't risk it. You do it on your own on your own, how do you say,   emotion,   Whatever discipline you have in motion, you just buy 2 or 3% or 5, whatever the number. Because the problem is   let's go go with gold.   There everybody's measuring on dollars,   but the gentleman that just talked to her is true. Now you want you need dollars.  

Now you have to exchange it for dollars, the gold.   And then this is too because if you go to a coin shop and you would think I don't know the number, I haven't done it for years years,   it's 5,010.   They have to report why they gave you more. So they're tracking 600  

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now.   $600.  

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There you go. So everything's being tracked.   Even you pay cash at Walmart,   there's a camera there. They know that you paid something cash because now everything's being linked to each other. The cameras  

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that's Not when you're wearing a mask.  

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And you know it's illegal, but we we were able to wear a mask out in the bank. You know? But, anyways I know. Isn't that hilarious?  

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They've forced you to wear a mask in the bank.  

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Everything that we do is a scam. Everything, a lie, our food is not food.  

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Our money, our health, everything.  

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Everything is a lie. So Right.  

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How do you work this? It's re if you really wanna be biblical and and then, like, I I said, you know, you wanna be in the whatever, high 75, 95, whatever, interstate   of righteousness.   Every time you wanna get off and exit, you're, oh, I can't get off of this. This is wrong. You go to the next exit. Oh, I this is wrong.   How do you work this out? And then you talk to your family, to where we you know? This this boy got Walmart, but they buy him Amazon. They buy what it whatever it is, it's like it's just overwhelming.   So you could you don't even need to do as best as you can. But, yeah, it's it's really it's really it's just   crazy that you something virtual, something in the clouds, you know, Bitcoin,   and now they call it property. You know? To me, property is something physical. You know? Your the coins or or your house. Oh, this is property. So it takes,   something   it's just it's just crazy. What could you say? So I'm just saying, if you if you're inflation We don't have the ability to discharge debt as people with this country.  



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I mean,   we we lost the gold standard.   That was the the real end of everything.   I mean,   our first bank didn't really start out that way either. I mean,   constitutionally,   they were in contradiction with themselves from day 1. We've never really   experienced   the the true meaning of,   equal weights and measures in this country. We   we just had sort of a patch on it,   and they destroyed the patch with the big banks.  

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So, But even the preachers don't pre sufficiency. Jesus Christ, basically, what did he do? He turned all those money changer the tables.  

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He was upset. No? Yeah. And one of the reasons the Jews got so much power is the kings who didn't wanna charge interest rate and tax their people, let them do them for them. You know?   That's what really happened.  

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You know, we we get upset when they call us goim goim, but it's true. It's a and and the Bible talks about where's the ship. And we are. We we're we're sort of dumb, you know, and they could cut our our throat and just throw them off the cliff, and we don't even notice. So We're not dumb. We're trusting.  

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We're very trusting.   Yeah. Yeah. Trusting. The white the whitey the plan.  

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Trust the plan.   The whitey kings used the Jews to be their tax collectors   and their bankers.  

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Yep.   And, you know, when Jesus Christ, one of the people that were regretting and repenting the most and discerning,   that was the tax collectors   and the Pharisees and all, they didn't like that.   And and they even,   threatened mister Pilate   that with Caesar because, you know, he's you have to send, tax   money to Caesar. So, you know, if Caesar asked for 15,   then the government needs 25, and then the tax collector 30 35.   So everybody was losing money. So if I have to say   why they really,   executed,   mister our our Lord Jesus,   it was because of taxes.  

You know?   Because he would they're they're losing money and everything, you know, the root of all evil is the love of man of money. So everything come down to the same thing for 1000 of years. So I'm just saying there's no asset,   and that's the truth.   Any of us would would love to have $1 Bitcoin or $10, whatever, a $100 Bitcoin 10 years ago,   and now it's worth a 100. And it doesn't matter if it's virtual or not, and you exchange it. You could buy, I don't know, whatever you want, a car, a 100,000 bananas.   And,   and,   you know, it's it's honest truth. Big everybody's waiting for gold, and I used to have gold and so and we've been waiting. Oh, it's gonna go. Soon it's gonna go 500.  

And the suppression and and all these lies and they it's it's not convenient for that, and they manipulate all this, and it hasn't gone up. You know? Right now, it's struggling.   Everybody's excited. It's struggling $30 again.   You know? I I think it went under the last couple of days again, and everybody's been waiting $50 when it went to 2011.   So, I'm just saying.   Do I like it? No. I don't make the rules. You're right. Maybe   it's their digital money or whatever they're in. They're gonna they're luring us, but they already lures to the World Reserve dollar.   I'm just being more practical in this sense,   realist.  



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After after everything I said, which sounds like it's negative towards Bitcoin,   as it sits right now,   it is probably fairer than the dollar system   because there's no fairness in that at all. So   but   I I I also believe, like Dave,   they're probably the ones behind it, and they have a plan and how they're gonna manipulate it.   And then we're gonna be stuck with it. And every transaction is gonna be, you know, followed. So  

[00:55:38] Unknown:

It's it's written in   nation in their   in their constitution,   and I lost it. But I remember it many years ago that that was written in there. So that, Satoshi, whatever his name is, they don't know who he is. Probably where? Is the CIA or whatever?   But, yeah. No. You're you're you're not being negative. You're being honest. It's true. You could you could look at the pros and the cons and the so,   you know, and if you hear me now, you I'm not the same person 4 years ago because I say, I don't want something   in a in a in something that I can see, I cannot touch.  

You know? They're making Bitcoin like a god. You know? Like, you can see, you can touch. It's all by faith.   But it is true.   I see all these young people  

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that want their discipline. Betsy, I'm I'm blind.   I'm blind, and I can't see a virtual wallet, but I can hold   my gold and silver coins.  

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Yeah. It's true. But, you know, there's a lot there's a lot of people that are blind. They came and see nothing was going around. I know.   I know.  

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All the all the tons of gold that came out of California,   they say we only found about 5% of it.  

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Oh, right.  

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Now that there's something I But the government restricts you from being your own prospector. They've,   eliminated   the   the personal dredge,   that you can swim around the river with and because they say it's bad for the environment and stuff like that.   I don't think they really give a crap about the environment.  

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You know, they mine of gold.   They don't want you touching the king's gold.  

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Exactly.  

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And and there's another thing that's happening with the   the, you know, the retirement funds and our our wife. You know, they have to   everybody over the pensioners   and all this,   in stock institution,   they need a return of 7, 8, 9% back every year. And,   and, with inflation,   they're not covering so a lot of people gonna be without pension without pension. So like, micro sale or not. Now you get Bitcoin,   and Bitcoin's been going a 100%,   60%,   200. So now they're adding to the portfolio   Bitcoin   because the only one that's gonna save their   those money funds or whatever is, there's nothing.  

They they they've been, derivative, and they've been doing everything possible because it's collapsing.   So now what they're saying that they're gonna start   implementing a lot of the Bitcoin in there because,   what did he say, but   for 20 years, the average would be   29%   a year.   They'll appreciate.   And by that time, it'll be, whatever, 13,000,000 for the next 20, 25 years.   So just imagine. There's nothing they'll appreciate 29. Even if even gold becomes 3,000, 4,000, 5000   is is is is not gonna appreciate,   faster than inflation.   So that's what I'm saying. So I'm trying hopefully, I'm making enough money, and I'll be able to buy some satoshi.  

But,   there's certain validity   there.   Now if the Internet goes, I don't know.   I think you better hold on to your real wallet, I guess.  

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I heard a week ago that Bitcoin was created by the CIA.   Did you hear that Brent Buckland and Samuel   about a week, 2 weeks ago?   Bitcoin was created by   CIA.  

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It's true.  

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It's true. And and and it could be. I don't know.   The last speculation, nobody been able to   verify,   but Facebook was created by CIA.   And so,   all those arms that you get there in the border of Mexico   is,   founded by the CIA.   So   I don't know.   I don't know. I just don't know.  

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But yeah.  

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We don't even know if Trump or Elon Musk is supposed to be in directed.   We we like it more in certain issues compared,   to to mister Harris, most of us here.   But,   yeah,   the problem is most people here are very fundamental.   We're fundamental.   We're loving people. We we like the truth,   and then it's hard for us to switch our brains. That includes   me too. Something you cannot see, you cannot touch.   But,   I still would like a real book in my hand,   but I understand the   volatility   of having   all these books in in   a in a digital format   and but has destroyed how many livelihoods, how many bookstores.  

And the young people, no matter what,   they haven't even touched one piece of gold or silver.   And some of them haven't even touched an old rotary phone. So the only thing they're seeing is this smartphone   in their hand that could do a 1000000 things   that we did not have 20, 30 years ago.   And,   so they they they're not gonna adapt   to gold, to silver,   or or any of this. They they to me, they live in La La Land. And but it's it's a functioning La   La Land for   them.   Sorry for the rent.  

[01:01:34] Unknown:

Bottom line,   Jesse,   what do you value most? I have everything to value. What   do you find the most valuable?  

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I  

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don't know who you were talking to, but I you need to repeat that because I didn't hear it that good.  

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What do you value most? Because it all boils down to   everybody's   personal value   and what   one values the most out of this   out of this existence.  

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Well, that's that's true. In my case, my case,   I   value   God.   You you know me personally. You know my family.   I have lost a lot of wealth. I have lost sacrifice a lot of it because I'm I do fear God, and I know I'm not perfect. So to me, everything,   every   every   let's put this every Shatoshin moment,   I always measure that. My family,   doing this, especially my immediate family, my wife, my daughters, my sons, whatever.   To me, it's that like everybody else here. But,   how could I put it this way? I don't sell myself   to   to for example, I never believe   sending my kids to college,   and everybody criticized me that. Never.  

In my my case, no 3 or 4 language. We homeschool   on that.   And, so yes.   So if it's just for a career   or for anything like that   or for   more wealth,   it takes a toll on you that you see other people that have   gone in wealth because they follow the matrix.   So now we go to Bitcoin,   I struggle with it even though you I look like an advocate because I go, wait. Is this is this from God? Is this real?   Is this usury all these things real? And, Samuel says, yes.   I don't know if that's what he meant, but   there's   there's more validity there.   You cannot you cannot use usury against Bitcoin. They're trying   compared to the dollar,   or interest bearing thing.  

They're doing it. They're doing other things.   So, yeah, is it more honest   when you compare it to the principle of God? I will say so certain in certain ways.   So, yeah,   we all you're right. It all depends on your values.  

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Yep.   The use the word, but you just   that's it.  

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They were currently   You're breaking You're breaking up. You're breaking  

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up. Well, I'm saying the 4 currencies   are   the currency that we're currently   being coerced into utilizing   has got 4   4 words on it. All of it does.   In God, we trust. And I'm I'm trying to wrap my head around what God are you entrusting   this crap to.   And you know it's corrupt, so I   and there's as many gods as there are   stamped   coin or   printed on a so called dollar, and it's not a dollar. That's another thing that   hurts my   anger.  

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Is this Gold, oil, and drugs.  

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Precious metals coined at a mint is   the definition of money. A dollar is   371.25   grains of silver,   25.8   grains of gold.   If you look at, James   Ewart's   book on money,   and   he did the etymology of the words, and I have nobody to,   disprove that. So that's what I'm going on.  

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Where were our grandparents or our parents?   Did they protest   the the revolution when they removed   the people's money, silver, in 1964?   They just they removed the operator from school and so on and so on. So, yeah,   many of us, for whatever reason, I'm not criticizing,   we sold out. It's like   everybody goes to a survival fitness. You know?   You need to use Bitcoin or a dollar or or cookies   to survive and to feed your family.   Who am I to judge?   But, yeah,   most of us,   we haven't   worked based on our principle   of moral values. And   what could I say? It's those those questions are those very hard to   to you know, that same dollar that you used to buy food to feed your kids or whatever is the same dollar that we're killing,   1,000 and tens of 1,000 people in the Middle East.  

We the same taxes that we paid, build those,   those,   rockets and and and send $80,000,000,000   or whatever number to kill women, rape them, and kill them in Ukraine. And everybody just keep on.   And then we pray because,   our soldiers,   and the church is and we put a yellow ribbon.   But,   my Bible   or even in fact, men all translation   said, blessed are the peacemakers.   But we are really a nation   and our government. I'm not saying each individual. We are warmongers.   You know?   And then we live in a beautiful, like I said many times here in 3 bedroom, 2 bath. And we look, like a great family, a good great citizen,   and,   and we donate to,   our extras to Goodwill.  

The one they cooked.  

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Yeah. It's,   currency is one of the 4   cornerstones  

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of the  

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pyramid of the feudal system.   It's stamped on the back of   each of those.   They're not even note.   If you know the definition of a note,   it has 4 elements to it.   And   since 1964,   they dropped off 2 elements,   which was payable to bear on demand.   So you slap back your piece of paper, and they give you  

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whatever   Gold or silver. Silver.  

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Exactly.  

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But,   we've been herded,  

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coerced.   The Fabian socialist,   doctrine, you know, slowly, step by step.  

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That's how they Teddy Planks, the Communist Manifesto.  

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Yippee, I a, Dave.  

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You gotta you I I love listening to Jordan Maxwell talk about currency.  

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Oh, yeah.   Or,   I like the way that,   old,   the pale horse guy. What was his name? Damn it. Oh, yeah.  

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Bob. Was it Bob? No.   No.   The guy who had had one leg, and they killed him.  

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Yeah.  

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Oh. I know what you're talking about. I can't think of his name.   I didn't hear him until he was already dead.  

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Yeah. I didn't either.   I got to read to read to  

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Say it again.   Dale. Dale   Cooper, behold, pale. Yep. That's that's him. That's him. That's him. That's Jimmy. That's Jimmy.   Got a lot of echoing going on.   Dale Cooper.   Behold the pale horse.  

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But I think the worst thing they had done to our society   is money and currency and all this thing. But if you're looking at as a whole,   why are people so ignorant about so many things, including our parent?  

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You know, Roger mentioned the tally sticks.   I think King Edward,   brought those into play, and those were, you know, money for, I think, 700 years.  

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700? Wow. I know that.  

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Yeah. 700 years, they used those quite   successfully.   Now they still use gold and silver,   but the tally sticks was the the king's   way of spending that currency, you know, back into the   into the economy, I think. There's a great,   I don't know if it I don't think it's what Roger's talking about, the   the secret of Oz.   But,   oh, what's his name?   The there's a guy that does a great documentary,   and they play it a lot on governamerica.com,   which, you know, tomorrow, 24 hours of documentaries.   Everybody needs to get ahold of Darren Weeks and and tell him that, you know, while every all these,   these,   platforms are shut down for the, you know, holiday,   he should be playing all those documentaries,   you know, throughout that time instead of playing reruns of other, you know, crap that everybody's already heard.  

Them them documentaries   are priceless, man. They are so priceless.   Farren what's his not Farren?   Anyway, I'll it'll come to me at some point, but, I know you all know who I'm talking about.   He narrates this documentary about,   you know, currency and the banks and the, you know, gold and silver, the tally sticks. He tells the whole history of of the tally stick   and how that came into play.   And,   he he really does a good job, and I'll I'll think of his name,   but I'll yield for now.  

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And then one of the problem we have, until we don't get   control of our education system   and make the parents   understand or grandparents   understand,   we're not gonna able be able to turn this around. The Communist Manifesto   is not just the bank,   one of the platform, but it's the occasion.   And then they just teach them whatever it is, and they take control of everything. So everything that we've been talking   here,   most of the young people   are 20, 30, 40 were not able to understand anything.   And we we have given   our precious kids   to the devil, basically.  

Teach them all this woke and all this crappy stuff,   but,   about health,   about money,   about God,   they don't know none of those things. So how you know,   Roger today or many times, he gets frustrated. And that's just trying to teach 1 person   or to update them 1 person. How do you update 1,000,000 people?   Like, you go crazy   because   they don't have   the reasoning no more   than definitive   to   to process things.   We've been mind controlled in so many ways, and now it takes   a long time to reeducate yourself, to backtrack what you thought that was true and real. And now you say, wait a minute. This is this is not real food or this is not real money.   And and we're we're   the biggest industry in the world is   every year,   tens of 1,000   graduate from college,   and, basically, they're just graduating from ignorance   of their life. They know nothing. What But they think just because they're a lawyer or engineer or whatever it is. And but really, they don't understand nothing about life.  



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Hey, Dave. You you listen to RBN   sometimes. Right?   Because I was gonna ask you, do you know what day they're gonna just start playing   reruns? Yes.  

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Monday is their last day live.  

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Okay. And then and then through and then for another whole week of just old recordings, you think? Right.   Past January for so January 2nd, maybe they'll start with   live shows?  

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I   I'm not sure of the dates.   You know, I can't see a calendar anymore, so   I'm really bad with dates. But,   I know they said I said I listened to,   Whitey today and he said Monday is their last day live.   And,   I don't know when is New Year's Day.   You know?  

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January   1 is a Wednesday.  

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Wednesday?   So I think I think I heard them say   that they're shut down that   even   that whole week, you know, through the weekend. I don't know if they're coming back until the following Monday.   Then maybe, hopefully, that Sunday night, Robert Raybould,   Insignery   Radio, Sunday night. Hopefully, he's live.   I don't like when they put him down.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Dave, were you speaking of Farron Shoaf?  

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No.   I'm thinking of what?   Nope. It's it's,   the guy's got his last name starts with a f, and it's like   it's not g Edward Griffin, but it's Edwin. It's,   he's a real scholarly guy. Vierra.   Vierra? Vierra.   Vierra.  

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Vierra, v I e r a.  

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His mother. Know how to Yeah. Yeah. Meredith Scabbers.   As as pretty as she was,   he is ugly.  

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Who's brother?  

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Meredith. Trouble?   Meredith   Viera   on NBC. 4.   Oh, she was fine back in the day.  

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What is she what's her claim to fame?  

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She's one of those morning talk show hosts on TV.  

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Oh, okay.   Yeah.  

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Meredith.  

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I've not I I remember some actress   named Meredith, but I'm not she wasn't so fine.  

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I'm not sure who you're talking about. Oh, Meredith   Baxter Bernie?  

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Yeah. I think so.  

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Oh, Brigitte loves Bernie?   Is that what that was? Yeah. Yeah. A Catholic girl loves a Jew.  

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Oh, jeez.   Go figure.   Yep.   All Jews aren't bankers, but all bankers are Jews.   Anyway, that Edwin   Viera,   he I don't know what that documentary is called, but it's about 3 hours long and our RBN has played it   before. I've heard it there a few times, and I don't know if they've played the whole thing. I've never heard it front to back there, but on governamerica.com,   you know, that's, Darren Weeks. He they got him on, RBN now on Saturdays,   but it's during Roger's time slot. But he's on 3 hours,   And,   he's live,   and they're, you know, they're,   simulcasting it from his governamerica.com.  

But he does,   he has a phone number you can dial up   and listen.   I don't listen   during the week because he plays a lot. He just pulls shows down off the Internet.   You know?   And there are a lot of mainstream crap I don't listen to. But I'll tell you what. I   I, I go to sleep with my phone on   on Saturday night,   so I wake up and it's on. And it they start at, like   you know, it's not always the same time, 6, 7, 8 AM,   Sunday morning EST, and it's 24 hours of nonstop   documentaries. They're anywhere from a half hour to 3 hours long, and they're commercial free.   And he just has a break,   a,   station identification   break in between each   documentary.  

And,   Yeah. You could listen by phone or or listen on the computer, and it's just audio.   They're all videos,   but he doesn't play the video to save bandwidth   on his computer. He told me that he has   270   documentaries   in a loop,   and they don't always go in you know, it he's the order he has them, some play more than others.   But,   there's some really, really great stuff   that   everybody should be checking out,   I think. Anyway, I yield.  

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Hey. Can somebody   put the chat,   up? I had to hang up and you know what happens when you hang up. Everything disappears.   My work called me. I'm at work, but they changed the situation.   And so   Dave was talking, and I wouldn't be able to understand them. So   thus, I don't have the chat. I want to get that book, especially   whatever else was up there.   If anyone would be so kind. Only for the past   2 or 3 hours   would be good.   I appreciate  

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it.  

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Dave,   by what I understand, you have some ancestor from Armenia,   and,   I'm just curious.   Did they come after   or before   the the the many   I think it was 19  

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17. Yeah. My grandfather   my grandfather left Armenia in 1912,   and he went to France to, get a ride on the Titanic to come to America for an operation. And,   he bought a ticket and everything, and for some reason, he didn't get on the ship.   And he waited a week later, and he got on a a different ship to Montreal.   And,   he he ended up there.   And then my grandmother and I don't even know because they're everybody's dead now.   My my uncle   was the last one, and he was   96. And they killed him in the hospital here,   back in April in Canada,   my mom's brother.  

So he was the last one. They're all gone except for now us cousins and, you know,   the children, but,   nobody knows anything. And   I know my grandmother,   was born in in, like, 18 97.   And her and her sister   And I don't know about any siblings,   but   they want the I know my grandmother used to tell us stories,   that, you know, she was there when them young Turks, and I call them young jerks   because they were Jews. They were Jew Turks. They're   they they're the they're the Bolsheviks that went into Russia   and slaughtered the the white Christians there.  

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You mean they were young turds?  

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Yeah. Well, I call them jerks because they're Jew Turks.   But they were scumbags, and they they cut off my great grandparents'   heads with sickles   in front of my grandmother   and her, you know, siblings.  

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So your grandfather   your grandfather   left your grandfather left doing the the holophones?  

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No. He left in in   in 1912,   and I don't think I don't know if they were married yet. I don't think they were married yet.   So,   you know, there were 2 families. So his and then my grandma, and,   I don't even know my grandmother's   maiden name.   But,   they had my I believe my grandfather's family had,   they were considered rich. They had, you know, because they sent them to France to get on the Titanic for an operation.   They had, you know, a big farmhouse and and outbuildings and sheep and, you know, camels and whatever and,   in the foothills of the, Mount Ararat.  

And Well,  

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in a nutshell, you were meant to be here.  

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Yeah. 1 of my cousins   well, I'm not sure about that, but one of my cousins   did a family tree and and found out, you know, he he actually petitioned the the Turkish government   and,   you know, about that land, and they said they would give it back to us   if we come and live there. We can't we had to live there,   and,   well, nobody wanted to go to Armenia.  

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Well, Mount Arad was was part of the Armenia.   Yeah. On the south the Turkey that that stole the land.   Together with the French. By the way, it's not,   blame also the Turks, but,   French   also help in many of those things that they'll be vital on the land when they be they help destroy the arm of heart. English and Yeah.   But,   yeah, I think the rebel   and that rebel part is in your blood.  

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I you guys are so many got a lot of background noise, but I can't understand everything that's being said.  

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Yeah. Why you just replied. Word in.  

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I said that   your the rebellious in you is in your blood based on your ancestors.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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If you lived in Armenia, you could have a name like Darwinian.   Yeah. Right. We had we had a bunch of Armenians in Hollywood High.  

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Right. Right. Yeah. A lot of them went to California.   I've been talking to this guy,   Vonnys.   He's a boxer. He was a golden or, yeah, Golden Gloves Olympian.   He's in California. He's got cancer.   And   I met this other guy through   one of the radio ranchers,   and   he put me in touch with his friend, the the guy I met. You know, the guy who called me first. He he actually came here from Armenia when he was 9 with his mother and father, and,   he's, like, 40 now. And they I mean, they there's a lot of Armenians in   in the LA area.  

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But there's a large community also in Detroit,   Armenian. Oh, yeah. We have Right. From the 19 twenties and tens and   and and and they're usually very,   family oriented.  

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Yes.   This is true.   I don't know any of And then  

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yep.   Well, what happened to all of us doesn't matter where you come from. After 2, 3 generation, we start, like, you know   I guess we got assimilated here in America, and we start Right. Getting where we come from.   So   we we just don't  

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were born in Canada, and   my mother was,   you know,   she was   happy to get away from, you know, that,   that slavery or   you know, I don't know. She was,   she was kinda rebellious herself. And,   but she didn't have the greatest relationship with her mother. Then my mother died   awfully young, 61, and her mom lived to 98.   And her dad was you know, he was about 98 or 99 when he died, but he was a lot older than my grandmother. And I was just,   you know, I don't even I remember sitting in his lap, but that's about it.   He actually worked on the Ambassador Bridge going from Detroit to   Windsor, Canada,   building that bridge.  



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And there's another one cousin  

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my one cousin, he was   a he worked in the medical   he he managed doctor's offices in   in Wisconsin or   Illinois or something. I don't know. But,   anyway, he kinda forced,   my uncle, his father, and and his brother,   who I used to be real close with to get the jab.   I mean, he didn't force them, but he talked them into it, said they really needed it, and they they fell for it. And they both got sick, and they got they got that jab twice   in Canada. And   my my uncle died in the hospital from the jab.   And,   my cousin   what's that?   Anyway, my cousin, he's he's   not doing well.  

The one who forced him I don't know any I mean, I won't even call him after my uncle died. I blame it on on him.   And, Yeah. We none of us talk anymore. It's crazy.  

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Dave, what has happened to me in the last month,   I know, for 20 years ago when I started waking up with the with the medical field.   And,   so I told all my family member all the things that's happened, everything that we have learned.   And, my wife did the same thing with my family and her family,   And they didn't understand or they didn't care.   Some some of them work in the medical field.   And,   either they say this they didn't say, you know, we didn't have no problem with them. Oh, we're crazy.   Whatever.   Like, everybody here has gone through. But now in the last month,   they're waking up, many of them, because, it's not me or my wife or any of us or any other other news. It's because, Kennedy is saying that the medical field is bad, and they've been hearing the debates and and the food and all the chemicals. So, like, every time they come to me, they don't know what to do because,   now it's like,  

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you're legit. You you were saying the truth, but now somebody   wait. What do you mean?  

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You just went robo you just went robocop   on us, Jesse.  

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Now they're worse.  

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Your phone is freaking out.  

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Yeah. I'm here now.   Yep.   But now, can I be now they're saying that the medicines are bad and the phones are bad? Now that our family member has started believing it.  

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And,   but when we said it 20 years ago, they didn't understand.   Now they're like Right. You're curious about it. So we need famous people in this show to so they could believe or somebody will start saying it's 6 o'clock news, and then they'll they'll start believing it.  

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Well, you know, doctor Wallach,   he he's got the split chart,   that, you know, teaches you all about,   you know, his way,   Wallach's way.   And and,   Pat Boone's in there,   Evander Holyfield,   Drew Pearson,   Theo Ratliff,   oh, let me think.   Oh, the black guy that died, the the, you know,   looking for liberty.   His son and his wife,   Martin Luther King Junior.   His wife marched   in in a a Martin Luther King March because Doc   got her on,   some stuff to keep her so she could walk without getting her her knees amputated.   Really? And,   Martin Luther King Junior the 3rd, his son, I believe,   he traveled with doc to a lot of   conferences,   you know, speaking about,   you know, what doc was doing and how he,   you know,   was able to help his mother march,   you know, when they said she was gonna die and all kinds of neat stuff. But,   yeah, it's a that look at,   www.wall   drjwallock.com.drjwallock.com.  

Check out that flip chart. It's, you know, anybody can   can explain,   what docs   doing,   and   all you gotta do is read it. And you're reading one side, and the people you're talking to are looking at the other side seeing exactly what you're telling them. And, there's quite a few celebrities,   in there that, you know, have been saved because of doc.   There's that,   I can't think of his name. He's a black actor.   He played in the   those, cop   series with,   the the Australian   actors Danny Glover. Glover. Yeah. Danny Glover. Thanks.   Yep. Danny Glover.  

He's in   there.  

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I missed reading him   by about 30 minutes.  

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Oh, man.  

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Yeah. Well, I knew the I knew the guy,   you know,   doctor Pub something? She's a chiropractor in Valdosta, Georgia.   She hangs around Laura Chikari.   Doctor Pub something, p a v something.   But she's real cute, and she was married. I guess,   the guy's last name is,   but he's a white guy. He's in, you know, American Indian.   But Yeah. He   he   knew Danny Glover.   He ended up being his driver and stuff.   He had a while at the events.   And, he was he and we were all sitting together, and he said, you know, I'll I'll,   arrange for meeting or, you know, for y'all to meet.   I missed him by about half an hour.  



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Ah, too bad.  

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Yeah.   But Danny Glover,   with his situation being in a wheelchair   in in airports   all the time,   and I guess it was known. I didn't know it at the time. But thing is is   he would have been a great spokesman,   you know, for, you know, getting stars to use longevity.  

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Right.  

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I'll tell you what, docs,   rebound.   Uh-huh. That stuff,   it it   there's a 100 nutrients in that stuff. It's cheaper than Red Bull,   And Red Bull's only got, I think, one nutrient, magnesium or something in it.   And,   and Gatorade, you know, there's like 9   there's 9 there were 9 basketball teams that I know for sure   that   had Doc's rebound in their Gatorade   coolers on their sidelines with all their games.  

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Yeah. Like the Denver Nuggets. $1,000,000  

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contracts   with Gatorade. So they they kept the Gatorade,   cooler, but they the guys were drinking Rebound.  

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Yep.   Yeah. They were they brought that out back in 2013   about or 14.  

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Yep.   Actually, it was in 2012.  

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That rebound came to my attention then.  

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Okay.   Yeah. They actually had a contest. So one of the Youngevity distributors   called it rebound because, Theo Ratliff was a a rebound superstar, and it it was created for him.   It's good too. It tastes really good.   And it's only like,   well, the last time I remember,   you know, the price, it was, like, $38   for a canister for 30 30,   60 scoops.   2 scoops per drink.   Quite reasonable.   Anyway, you guys should check it out. It's good stuff. It's,   tastes good, and it it rebuilds the body after workouts, and it's it's sustained endurance.   Not it's not an energy drink. It's an endurance drink.  

But it also has all the nutrients to rebuild   before, during, and after workouts. So  

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hey, Dave. What year was that that your ancestors tried to get over here for the operation?   You're the Titanic, I guess.  

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19. Say it again.   I didn't I didn't get everything you said you got stepped on.  

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What year   was the,   out rear relative coming over to the States?  

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1912.   Okay.   He was in France   he was in France waiting for   the Titanic to come from England.   The first stop was France   before   New York.   And,   he he had a ticket. He was there,   but he didn't get on that ship.  

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Yeah. I know that,   about 1920 to 1924,   they really put a throttle on   immigration because they were getting too many socialists and communists. So   they were trying to,   bring it down to east or   Northwestern   Europeans   instead of the all over the world.   Right.  

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You're right, Samuel. They lock it down from 24 to 60   4 until they created a new   immigration.  

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Yeah. That was that was a good time and and a couple of Jews that got together to do that one.  

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Let's tell them truth on that. There were too many Jews.  

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Yep.  

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Because that's what the socialist and communist were. Let's call a spade a spade.  

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Thank you.  

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I guess it takes a spade to know one.  

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Another reason they were getting, like, Samu said, the Northerner   is because in Europe, there was always a a fight in between states and people because of the culture of the capitalism   and Protestant.   So it was not just they weren't just families   together. They wanted   the the same faith   or at least at least as best as possible.   They didn't want those things that happened what's happening in Europe for centuries to happen here, but I guess it's already happening.  

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Yeah. The the 300 top communist came from New York City.  

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Hey, Dave. Do you know if Walnut used any preservative or anything? Because I recommended the other day,   for the for the children,   kids,   toddy or something like that.   That's all the barrels.  

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In these liquids   in these liquid products, they use   sodium benzoate.   Okay? But it's from,   I can't remember the source of it, but they   the doc's number one formulator,   said that the only way that that that can be harmful is if it's heated over a 100 and something degrees, and it was, you know, quite high. And,   it is 120 or 30 degrees.   And he said if we didn't put something like that in there, you would have to buy a new bottle every week   because it's all natural and it's, you know, you just can't keep that stuff from going bad.   But now the powders   don't have that in them.  

Just the liquid.  

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I'm sorry. You're breaking up. So that's why when she read the ingredients,   she said, that's a that's a very good explanation.   Yes. And probably it's very minimal.  

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It is.   It is. We've been using those liquids since 2011,   and   we've been giving them to our grandson,   since he was 2 months old, and he was born in   2013.   He's gonna be 12,   in January, and,   and he really hasn't been sick a day in his life. He's not vaccinated,   and he's a Youngevity baby.   And his mother was on his mother was   vaccine injured when she was a child,   and,   they put her on   they they made us put her on   these,   seizure   drugs that cause seizures.   And, man, if I knew then what I know now, oh my god,   Things would have been a whole lot different. But, she was on that shit from the time she was in 4th grade   until she was 20 some years old.  

And,   she she went and got,   you know,   pregnant,   you know, without discussing anything with us and didn't tell us until   after. And she was on that crap. She was going to a to a, you know,   whatever doctor, woman, doctor   parts. And,   she she didn't take her off those meds. She was trying to get pregnant,   and that   bitch   let her get pregnant on them freaking drugs   from the doctor   and said it wouldn't hurt the baby.   And then,   once she had the baby,   we, you know, we weaned her off of that crap,   and, you know, was feeding her, you know, the longevity   while she was pregnant.  

And,   so the baby could get that stuff,   you know, in the womb, and then she breastfed for till he was 2.   And,   we're so man, we are so blessed that he didn't   have any   any issues,   plus her. Anyway,   Yeah. We've been blessed.   We've been we've been,   targeted,   but at the same time, we've been somewhat protected. So   anyway, I yield.   But I wouldn't hesitate. The those Youngevity,   I've never found anything that can compare,   and I've never found anything that works like it works.   Now the liquid minerals   with, there's no preservatives in that.   It's just liquid minerals,   what, distilled water and or purified water and plant derived minerals.  

And,   there are some flavored   with, you know, fruit   like cherries and apples,   and,  

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so it's and  

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strawberries,  

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Haas. So it's only mineral liquid.   They don't have no preservatives?  

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Correct.  

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Okay.   Gotcha.  

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Yep.  

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I remember, Monica, I I think in early 2000 or in the nineties   when I was still green, and and sometime I hear, and I didn't understand half of the things, him and many other people.   But I remember   when we say, you know, you go to church and you have a list of all the stick and cancer and this and this, and then you pray for it, and then they cannot figure out why God does not answer.   You're right. If you keep adding all that poison from a   into your brains, into your body, how do you expect them to answer you?   Right. And, you know, that hit me 20 years ago, 20 5. And,   and and now I I still sometimes go to church, and I do that. And it just bothered me so much   because it's true.  



[01:46:54] Unknown:

See,   God God   created us from the dirt,   which is the minerals.   And,   you know, those the the the 90 what doc talks about, the 90 essential nutrients,   the reason they're essential is because the body doesn't make them. It can't.   And they are the raw materials   the body must have   to do what it was designed to do, heal itself. They are the building blocks of life.   And if mama don't have them, when you're being if mom and dad don't have them, when you're   conceived,   you're already in trouble. And if mom don't have them throughout that pregnancy,   you're in worse trouble.  

And you know,   if you guys remember   Evel Knievel,   the motorcycle   stunt guy.   Well, he had a grand niece named Lauren,   and when she was in her forties,   she got pregnant, and she had 2 or 3 amniocentesis   done. And they told her that her baby had Down syndrome,   and they wanted her to abort the baby. And she said no   way am I killing my baby. I don't care what it has.   Well, one of her relatives   had heard about doc   and contacted him and asked if he could help.   And he said   he'd he'd never, you know, tried anything like that with a baby in the womb, but,   you know, it can't hurt. So let's jump on this   and got, you know, Lauren on,   you know, something like a brain and heart pack.  

And, that baby was born perfectly normal. So he actually reversed   Down syndrome in the womb in that baby after he'd already been diagnosed with it, it was reversed. So can you do that with everything? Maybe. But we don't know. We don't know unless we try. But the   best solution is   when a couple announces they're gonna get married,   doc says you give them a you give them a business   and you you put them on the nutrients.   And they shouldn't try to conceive   for at least 6 months   while they're being nutrified.   And then mama continues   that nutrition   and off of those 12 bad foods   while she's pregnant and,   you know, 9 it's 90 for life. That means it's for life.  

And, you know, you virtually guarantee,   perfectly   normal baby.   An easy birth   and,   you know, no birth defects.   Not yield.  

[01:50:04] Unknown:

You're absolutely right, Dave. A lot of our symptoms,   we we're looking for alternative or solutions or   or we need to exercise. And most of our symptoms,   you have cramps,   your legs twit.   It's a lot of, it's lack of minerals or vitamins or zinc or magnesium.   And a lot of time,   by being consistent and   and having those minerals or those vitamins,   it transformed their person   so much.   But we're a society. We're used to the instant   solution   instead of annoying our body and be disciplined.   It takes work. Like, everything,   freedom,   responsibility,   takes work, knowledge.  



[01:50:53] Unknown:

That's right.  

[01:50:55] Unknown:

Many of us, we have family that are sick and and you wanna approach them and explain them and they just   it's just   very difficult.  

[01:51:07] Unknown:

So doc doc   says that all disease falls into 4 categories,   hard tissue,   soft tissue,   digestion,   and blood sugar.   And   there's there's about 10   deficiencies   that go with each mineral.   And he's created this health survey   that you take. And if you're honest,   it'll it'll tell you exactly   what,   what your illnesses are caused by,   the foods to avoid   and what nutrients to take, and it's all Youngevity. And it tells you that, you know, when you there's a website   that I used to have. I don't anymore. I had to pay for it, and   I got a   messed up credit card, and we never got it back. But,   you you could fill out that survey on that website, and,   you'd get an email back from the the algorithms that were set up. It was like Wallach was sending you an email,   and it would tell you   what foods to avoid and why,   what how to reverse   all your your issues,   what products to take, and how much each one cost.  

And it and then, you know, the the distributor that had the site,   you'd both get an email,   the person who filled it out and then the distributor that sent you there. So then you could go over it, you know, together.   And,   and then there were there were features in that website where you could go back and take it again after you started taking the nutrition   and watch your   deficiencies   go away.   It it really was incredible.   I wish I had that sight still.   But it's it's so simple.   You know, doc's been reversing over 900   diseases   with these nutritional supplements   since   really before 1997 when he started his own company, Youngevity.  



[01:53:30] Unknown:

Hey, Dave. What's an example of soft   tissue and hard tissue?  

[01:53:36] Unknown:

2 of the causes Soft tissue is all your organs,   your brain and and organs,   and hard tissue is bone and joint.  

[01:53:47] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:53:49] Unknown:

So like osteoporosis.   Right?   That's a,   the   the symptoms   are   bone and joint issues.   And,   you know, doc doesn't treat symptoms, but the symptoms are,   you know, a calling card.   So he knows,   you know, if you if you have,   you know,   degenerative disc disease,   you   know, you could have   a 147   other   diseases   from a calcium deficiency.   There's actually a 147   diseases   you can get from a calcium deficiency.  

[01:54:38] Unknown:

Hey. Someone was so kind to have posted   that,   that link in the chat, and I,   I got bounced out of the room before I could   post   could copy it.   Can   you put it back up there for me? I appreciate it.  

[01:54:57] Unknown:

You're welcome, Brent.  

[01:55:06] Unknown:

So they let you they let you do that out there on the coast of Rica.  

[01:55:11] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:55:13] Unknown:

That's awesome.  

[01:55:18] Unknown:

At least I know something.  

[01:55:21] Unknown:

Good for you.  

[01:55:24] Unknown:

So does Wallace know what   whatever you just said about,   calcium deficiency can cause a 147   diseases or whatever you said the number. Yep. That was it. Does he know does he know which   which nutrient   oh, which nutrient   deficiency   causes   arthritis?  

[01:55:50] Unknown:

Yeah.   The same one.   Calcium? And see doc yeah. It it but it's not just calcium.   So   Wallach   being a pathologist,   right, he   when when Wallach was in college   going to,   veterinary school,   he worked for Marlon Perkins at the St. Louis Zoo.   Marlon was the curator of that zoo.   And,   Wallach learned you know, he wanted to learn everything he could about animals and and all that. And,   so he he worked his butt off. He hardly ever had any extracurricular   stuff going on that wasn't   learning.   So he got he started working in the pathology lab doing learning how to do autopsies.   And,   you know, he'd already been in there a few years. He was getting ready to graduate.  

I don't know exactly when. Yeah. I think he was like 22 years old. He was working over Christmas vacation. He was the only one there. Not a professor to be found.   This rancher came in with 50 dead lambs.   And doc's like, oh my god. These are perfect little lambs. What happened?   The rancher's like, I don't know, but   500 of them died   this morning.   And it had this was in Missouri.   And Christmas,   you know, vacation.   And the temperature swings, you know, it can go up to 60 or 70 during the day and go down in the, you know, low twenties or zeros, you know, at night. And   they all all those lambs had a goiter.  

You know what a goiter is?  

[01:57:41] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:57:43] Unknown:

Okay.   Well,   your thyroid controls your body temperature   and   so doc did 500   autopsies on all of those dead lambs   and he traced   their death   back to   the pond water that they were drinking from   was being polluted by the neighbor's   fertilizer   runoff.   The nitrates and nitrates   in the fertilizer   poisoned their thyroid   and that goiter   destroyed, you know, it it prevented them from   regulating their body temperature. It dropped down to, you know, like 0 that night or something. And   normally that wouldn't bother them, you know? But because their thyroids were fried,   it killed them.  

So he wrote a paper about it. He turned it in,   and then he graduated.   And Marlon sent him to Africa   to be the lead pathologist   in in this white rhino conservation project because the white rhinos were, you know, on the verge of extinction. There was only 700 of them left in the wild. This is like 1964   or something.   And,   so Wallach's there   for 2 years,   and Marlin   gets a hold of this paper that he wrote.   And he's like, oh my god. This is the evidence of the first   mass die off from pollution   in the animal   study. And he took that paper and he turned it into the NIH,   you know, the, you know, the National Institute of Health, Fauci the Fauci was the infectious   side.  

But he turned it in and they gave him a $25,000,000   grant   to do a 12 year study   on zoo animals,   that, you know, died,   in zoos.   They were looking for a canary in a coal mine.   You know what a canary does in a coal mine?  

[02:00:00] Unknown:

Re remind me.  

[02:00:02] Unknown:

Well, they put a canary in a cage.   I don't know if they still do, but back then they they would put a canary in a cage, and a guy would sit there. You know, his job was just watch that canary.   And if the canary fell off his perch, you know, he died,   they hit a gas pocket. And those miners just had enough time to get the hell out of the mine before they were dead   Yeah. Of the asphyxiation.   Right? So Yeah.   So Marlin sends doc a telegram,   you know, 1964.   They couldn't call him. And, he says, hey, doc. I just got a $25,000,000   grant. Well, I don't know if they called him doc yet. But anyway, hey, Wallach. I just got a 25,000,000 or $1,000,000 grant based on that paper you wrote about them lambs. And,   the NIH wants us to do a 12 year study.  

And I want you to be the the lead pathologist   on this 12 year study. And I'll send you back to Africa when you're done if you wanna go back, but we need you here. And Wallach, he's he's raising a family.   He's riding horses on the Serengeti crawling around, getting within 20 feet of a of, you know, an African elephant or a a, you know, 2,000 pound rhino.   And he had to shoot him with these little,   tranquilizer   darts.   And then, you know, they'd once they'd fall, pass out, he'd go and with a crew and they he'd doctor them all up and then build a crate around it, pick it up with a crane, and put it on the back of a truck, and they sent   200 of them back to zoos in America.  



[02:01:37] Unknown:

And I thought he had to go and chase them down, and then, Wallach took care of them.  

[02:01:43] Unknown:

Who?  

[02:01:45] Unknown:

Stan. Who?   Stan? Stan.   Yeah. Wallach or not Wallach, but,   the guy who was, Perkins' assistant   on Wild Kingdom.   I'm not sure. He had to go check he  

[02:02:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Doc talked about himself   crawling on the Serengeti.   He had to invent the rifle to shoot these tranquilizer   darts   at these rhinos.  

[02:02:13] Unknown:

Yeah. But,   Mutual Omaha's Wild Kingdom, Stan had to go and chase down the animal,   and then you'd see Wallace's crew in the background   after Stan was worn out.  

[02:02:26] Unknown:

Well, Wallace was with him in many of those cases.  

[02:02:30] Unknown:

I know. I know. Wallace was in the background and stuff.   Yeah. I I used to watch the show every Sunday.  

[02:02:38] Unknown:

Right. I remember the show, but I don't remember that vividly.   But,   anyway, doc   doc wrote Marlon a letter denying   the letter of denial, you know, and he   he put it on his mantle. And he said for a couple weeks, he'd walk past it and look at it and   and and kick himself like, damn, like, you know, I don't wanna go back. I'm staying here in Africa, you know?   Finally, after a couple of weeks, he said,   I, you know, I I always said I would do anything to work for Marlin again.   And, so he re he tore up the letter and he wrote him back and said he would come back.   Well, he did,   20,500   autopsies   in that 12 years. 3000 of them were on men and women   that died around Zeus for comparison.  

He did 17,500   autopsies on 454   different zoological   species.   And they they never found that canary. Doc says that animals and people were pretty resilient unless we're working in an asbestos factory, you know, and we're being bombarded by, you know, this stuff that might kill us. We're, you know, we don't die from this stuff normally. Like, unless we're drinking that poison water out of a pond like them lambs did.   But what he did discover   was that in every case of natural death,   it was a nutritional deficiency,   and he was able to identify   every nutritional   deficiency with the disease that it caused.  

And over 900 diseases,   he   he, you know, actually spelled out   that these deficiencies were causing.   So   when he finished that study,   and he was a golden boy, he was on   60 minutes in 2020, and he he published 75 papers and, you know, medical   journals and stuff and,   all about what he had just figured out after 12 years,   plus everything he learned in college and everything he learned in Africa.   And he got a job working for,   NASA   in a white in a rhesus monkey lab at, Emory University.   And,   he discovered the first case of nonhuman cystic fibrosis   in a rhesus monkey.  

And that's when he got fired   because   they didn't want him to expose that that, you know, no disease was genetically transmitted. It was all, you know, cellular or nutritional.   So   he writes his postdoctorate   fellowship thesis   based on those 20,500   autopsies.   And he turned it into the University of Missouri, and they bought, you know, shit a brick. And they're like, oh my god. They took doc's thesis and they sold it to the,   world's   largest medical textbook publishing company   in the world.   Doc says they edited it down to 1200 pages. Doc wrote a 5,000   page thesis with drawings   and everything. And, they added it down to 1200 pages docs without losing any content.  

They printed 90,000   copies of it, and they sold them all in 30 days for $25,000   each.   And you might be able to find 1 in a in a library borrowing program. You know, you could check that book out. It's leather bound. It's called Diseases of Exotic   Animals.   And it's in the Smithsonian   Institute   under glass   as a national treasure.   Doc says it's because it proves, you know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, irrefutable   that no disease is genetically transmitted.   But guess what? What does the Smithsonian Institute do?   They find national treasures,   and they hide them in their museums.  

Nobody knows   unless you know the story I just told   that there's 3,000 men and women in that book of   exotic animals.   Nobody knows this information   unless you know doc.   And that book is being hidden from the world   under glass because everybody thinks it's about   exotic animals.   And you can go I had a a couple,   the, Mennonite couple. They lived up up north, you know, halfway to the to the UP   in a tiny little town.   And after she went to see doc at some,   you know, conferences where somebody had that book and they passed it around and she held it in her hand, She went to her library when she got home,   and lo and behold, that book was in the library.  

And she checked it out, and she took digital   pictures of every page   of that book. And,   so she has it, you know.   But Doc says you can ask Siri or Alexa,   you know, about   that book. And if you can find a brand new copy,   you know, still boxed up and wrapped up,   that book will sell today for 25 to $35.  

[02:08:15] Unknown:

Or find someone that they had a book as a doorstop in their room.  

[02:08:20] Unknown:

Right. And you can buy you can buy used copies that are, you know,   marked up and and highlighted and   somebody went to college and and in vet school or whatever and they used that book. But that book is used in every zoo   and aquarium in the world   so they can manage   their exotic herds.   It is required for zoos and aquariums to have that book.   That's who bought it.  

[02:08:53] Unknown:

University Again,   I request   whoever posted the,   link in the chat.   Can you do it again? Because I think it was Joan. I got I got I got popped off, and it's not reposted   yet.   Not put put boogie in your butt, but, please,   I need to get it.  

[02:09:15] Unknown:

Alright. Glad to do it, Ray.   Glad happy to do it.  

[02:09:21] Unknown:

Hey, Dave.  

[02:09:22] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:09:24] Unknown:

I have had I have a client, really nice guy, and   he's pretty   lame. He's overweight.   And I asked him what he does for hobbies, and   he said, well, he says, I used to ride my bike a lot. And he says, but then I got diagnosed.   He says I he said I'd have all this energy and then I dropped to nothing. I'd wanna go to sleep, and they diagnosed me, he says, with Graves' disease. They took my thyroid out, and he says I take a pill every day.  

[02:09:56] Unknown:

Oh my god. He let them take his thyroid out.  

[02:10:00] Unknown:

Yes. So any hope for him?  

[02:10:04] Unknown:

Well, actually, yeah, there's a lot of people that live without a thyroid, but so, you know, he I doc would put him on, you know, per 100 pounds of body weight,   one healthy brain and heart pack.   And I'd probably do the 2.51,   the newest one.   And   we got a a secret sauce,   doc calls it. It's called Ocean's Gold,   and that has all the nutrients   that a thyroid needs.   The body still needs that.   And   you can regulate the body   with nutrition   that the thyroid used to do,   you could still do it without it. It isn't it's not a 100%, but it's a whole lot better than taking the crap that they got him on.  

[02:10:52] Unknown:

So if he if he got this under control with nutrition, then he could get rid of the   pharmaceutical, you think? Oh, absolutely.   That would probably be a plus because that's probably a lot of his weight problems and It is. And he's and it's hard to watch the man move. I mean, he's he's got to hold on to everything around him. And I just, you know, nice guy.  

[02:11:16] Unknown:

Feel sorry for him. He's in agony, and it's his own damn fault.   Yeah. But, you know, unfortunately,   you know, insurance pays to keep us sick.   And until we wrap our head around that and we realize we gotta pay to keep ourselves healthy,   we're in big trouble.   And when you start letting them take body parts that don't grow back   actually, I've heard stories of thyroids growing back.  

[02:11:47] Unknown:

Really? Well, that's where that song screw the woke comes into play.  

[02:11:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Right.   Yeah. Right. So if if you get a longevity distributor  

[02:11:59] Unknown:

close to you,   Dave, can you use them like a coach to help you get through all this? Me?  

[02:12:05] Unknown:

Absolutely. That's their job.   They're supposed to hold your hand   and, you know, and advise you or, you know, coach you through,   until you could start doing it yourself.  

[02:12:20] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:12:22] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:12:24] Unknown:

And how do you find out who's good in your local area?  

[02:12:30] Unknown:

Well,   I you call Youngevity,   and and they they can't tell you who's good, but they can tell you who the distributors are. I would talk to Jim. I mean, if, you know, you're buying under Jim. Jim is your coach.   He should be available for you, you know, for all of this stuff and all your people that that come in under you or through you.   You know, even if you're not a distributor,   anybody that that, you know, would sign up and and order as a customer under Jim, he's gonna help him.   You know? And the and the best way to help him is shit with this show.  

[02:13:09] Unknown:

Well, you know,   all that's great and fine, and I understand   what you're saying. But some of these people,   they need the personal touch. I think in contact of a person that's going to,   physically be there for them as well as, you know, technically.  

[02:13:26] Unknown:

Well, and unfortunately,   you know,   it it's really goes with who told you about it. You know, that's who you're supposed to go with, but, you know, people can do whatever they want. And if you need that physical touch,   then you gotta call Youngevity or call Jim and find out if he's got a distributor in in, you know, your area that he can put you in touch with. That's where I'd start.   Okay. And if not, then then he'll tell you to call Youngevity, and they'll they'll hook you up with somebody.  

[02:14:01] Unknown:

That would sync the like all websites like that, you would end up with,   you know,   a list of people in your area that are distributors, I would think. But I maybe I'm not I'm not aware of any list.  

[02:14:17] Unknown:

Okay. But you you know, if you call Youngevity's 800 number,   they'll, you know, you you'll give them your info   and they'll have somebody contact you,   you know, that's in your area that's a distributor.   Now what what what kind of background they have, you know, that I I can't they won't be able to tell you that.   That sucks. But the ones that the ones that are higher ranked   will have less time.   You know, the people that are in it for the money,   and they may not and that that's not good or bad, but, you know, sometimes you get so big,   you don't have time to to, you know,   hold people's hands   like you used to,   because you just don't there's not enough of you to go around. You know?  

Yeah.   But it's so easy. Who directed it?  

[02:15:16] Unknown:

Uh- Hey. Who's directing the this company now?  

[02:15:20] Unknown:

Who's directing it? It's still Wallach's son and daughter-in-law.   Okay.   Steve Steve Wallach, Steve and Michelle Wallach,   but they're not in California anymore. They're in Arizona.   Oh. Because her mother's sick, and they moved out there to   take care of the mom. And I don't know how often they get to Chula Vista,   but,   I I would you know where I'd start,   Samuel?   Get a get a copy of Doc's   either the audio   or the video. He has a,   you know, the dead doctors don't lie full version audio,   or there's actually a DVD   from 1996   that was recorded the first time, you know, when it's on DVD.  

That's what I recommend, the full version.   If if you hand that to somebody and they actually watch it or listen to it,   if they don't get it,   they ain't getting it. Okay? And they're they're really How do you use the full version, Dave?   It it's about an hour. It's a little more than an hour. Okay. I just wanna know what to look for.   Yeah. Once you start   with that, it'll say full version.   But if you go to doc's website,   drjwallack.com,   I think the DVD is $10   and the the the full version of the CD,   it's $3.   And I'm telling you   d r j, no periods or anything in that?  

Right. Right. Just   drjwallick.com.  

[02:17:06] Unknown:

I think I'd like to watch it myself. I've never seen it.  

[02:17:09] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. It's fantastic.   I mean, it's basically the the the, you know, the audio, but you can see him.  

[02:17:18] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:17:19] Unknown:

Okay. And it's from 96 and it's it's it's incredible.   And I'm telling you, it's it'll it change it's life changing here in dock. And, you know, depending if your audio or visual,   you know,   if you don't get something out of that   and know that there's something wrong and that guy knows exactly what he's talking about,   you're you're gonna get not only your thyroid taken out, but your liver and your you know, I mean, they'll just start taking all your body parts   that they can get it with weigh with taking until you're dead.  

[02:17:55] Unknown:

Oh.  

[02:17:58] Unknown:

Excuse me. Okay. Well, thank you. That's, that's good information.  

[02:18:02] Unknown:

You're welcome.   Go ahead, Joan.  

[02:18:05] Unknown:

Can y'all   get get the link because I gotta go.   You did?  

[02:18:14] Unknown:

Well, I said, yeah. I we can hear you.   I haven't heard Brent respond.  

[02:18:20] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I'm just gonna I have to go. I have to I'm gonna hang up and, then I will lose I will lose all of all of the chat then to  

[02:18:29] Unknown:

Oh. So okay. Brent, you there?   Tap on the phone if you can hear.  

[02:18:37] Unknown:

He's at work.  

[02:18:40] Unknown:

Somebody else will have to put it up if he didn't get it on your set. Lisa also?  

[02:18:46] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:18:48] Unknown:

Yeah. I know   I I know Sketch and Lee you can tell him if he did not get Sketch and Leaf, they might know how to get it again. Because I think both of them posted it. Yep, Joan. I'll I'll make sure he gets it. Thank you.  

[02:19:00] Unknown:

Yep.   Thanks, Joan. Bye. Merry Christmas.  

[02:19:06] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:19:43] Unknown:

Yeah. I gotta say after meeting my wife and having kids and, you know,   that Wallach is right up there with, you know, one of the best things that's ever happened to me.   And then meeting him   multiple times and   just the relationship that we've had,   wow, it's priceless.  

[02:20:17] Unknown:

Hey, Dave. In my part, many of us here,   you are worth a great wealth of knowledge,   and we are very thankful every time you come out and, brighten our day and and, inform us.   And I pray for you and for your family   and,   for prosperous spiritually and   and,   and health.   We're very grateful.  

[02:20:44] Unknown:

Well, thank you, Jesse. I I that's very heartfelt and,   right back at you, brother. Thank you.  

[02:20:54] Unknown:

Double dittos here.  

[02:20:59] Unknown:

Thank you. Thank you.  

[02:21:01] Unknown:

And I appreciate the kudos   after you follow me on to, Uncle Fester's show or any other   that you hear me,   or you come up after me there, Gregory.  

[02:21:18] Unknown:

Yeah, man. You really, hit the ball out of the park when you're on Fetchers. I I really do enjoy   listening to your   diatribe.  

[02:21:29] Unknown:

So   thanks.   I try to hold back, but, you know,   man, I I love that guy, but damn. What   a libtard.  

[02:21:51] Unknown:

And that's what we're missing. This is starting now.   People don't do things for vocation or for love. They usually do it for   for convenience or money.   And,   and, it's a shame because in the old days, you would go to   our store and you were able to speak to somebody.   That was very   knowledgeable. And and he was happy to do   that. Now we just do it for prestige or income. We have lost that. So when you hear somebody like you or in in any other area like like Roger,   you gained that knowledge either because you have to sacrifice or suffer on your case or anybody's case. It's really refreshing because we're missing that   in our community, in our country.  

People don't do things no more for love or can't do it no more.  

[02:22:44] Unknown:

That's I think we're trying to stop on the academic world.  

[02:22:49] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:22:51] Unknown:

Breaking through the programming. That's what I think it's,   what we're trying to do here is trying to,   convey something   in the language,   and that's another barrier we have to overcome is the language. Because   the definition of my word is totally opposite in a lot of cases to the definition of your definition of that same word, and it gets really   bloody,   moronically,   irritating or not irritating, but exasperating it. Oh,   makes me wanna just   poop.  

[02:23:38] Unknown:

Yikes.   Well, I hope you're wearing one of them astronaut diapers.  

[02:23:53] Unknown:

No. But, I've got my outhouse not far from here, and   I I know how to squat and keep it off myself. Yeah.  

[02:24:03] Unknown:

You know, speaking of astronauts,   I there's a show on on, the radio here, the slow AM radio called the swap shop. People call   buy, sell, and trade.   And this old man, he's 97 years old,   20 miles north of me, and he he comes on every now and again trying to sell something. And   and, I called him for this collection of die cast cars   for my brother in Texas. And   and we got to talk, and he called me back, you know, that night. Like, did you call me for a rocking chair I'm selling? And, you know, I reminded him who I was, and we talked for, like, an hour. And, I mean, he's 97 years old. He   and,   he then he then he hit me with   how he's a progressive.  

And   and America needs to progress and and and all this, and I'm like, woah. You don't you know that that's communism?   And he's like, And he start talking about NPR and and,   it's like I'm like, uh-oh.   Who is this guy?   Anyway, his name is Gene, and, I I think he might be one of them j guys. And,   anyway, I I told him that, you know, we never landed on the moon. And he goes, oh. He started laughing, and he goes, yeah, you can believe anything you want, but I know an engineer.   And I, I, he wasn't even a NASA. He just knew an engineer. And I read popular science and, and,   what was that other one?  

Something. Popular Mechanics.   Every day illustrated.   Yeah. Well, it was Popular Mechanics. Is  

[02:25:51] Unknown:

the other book. Yeah.  

[02:25:53] Unknown:

Yeah. And he's like I'm like, oh, I see how you were indoctrinated   now. And and he laughed, you know. And and then eventually, you know, I I laid a few things on him, and and he was like, you know what? At my age, I'm I'm I'm still open to learn more. You know?   And, even though I'm you know, he's pretty stuck in his ways, he's still   you know, we had a pretty open minded conversation, and, he said I you know, he'd like me to call him back again sometime.   And,   but I I I really would love to hit him with one of them, you know, books that Fetzer wrote about, you know, the moon landing, especially that one because that's where we went.   But,   it was funny.  



[02:26:38] Unknown:

Well, that's the key too is having an open mind. I find that people that don't have their parachute open,   they're falling a lot quicker than I'm coming down. And I'm saying, oh, what what are you from?  

[02:26:54] Unknown:

Yep. Yep.   Yep. The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open.  

[02:27:18] Unknown:

And that's another   thing that I find fascinating   is that,   how many mines out there are opened?   They are very few and far between, and that's one of the reasons why I like hanging around here   as you   helped to,   keep my mind in flux and not   closed.  

[02:27:46] Unknown:

That's a good point.  

[02:27:57] Unknown:

It's amazing how   powerful brain entrainment or conditioning   is on,   the human. It's it's it's quite amazing how it works.  

[02:28:12] Unknown:

I like to say mankind.   I think the definition of human is a monster.   Yeah. There's a lot of monsters out there that are humans, but,   I like to think there's a lot more of mankind that aren't monsters than   than the, you know,   the opposite of that.  

[02:28:37] Unknown:

Yeah.   There are people,   then there are humans,   then there are subhumans.   And there's   gray side in between   people and humans because   I see that,   evil is the antithesis   of life.   And so those that kill life   are more human   than those that   try to promote life.   And then the subhumans just wanna do nothing else but to destroy all life.   And   that's   that's the battle I'm I'm seeing right now.  

[02:29:24] Unknown:

I don't wanna get it. Old timer.   I had an old timer tell me. He's an old,   tool and die guy and an organic farmer, dairyman. He he milked   about 80 head on 80 acres, and he you know, that he was really smart guy.   We lost him a few years ago. He was 87.   But he told me it his son was a Baptist minister   and they kicked him out of the church as a heretic.   And this guy Gary Don Blackwell was his name and,   he grew up on a on a farm with his   his mother,   his   grandfather,   and his great grandfather.   And   when when, when tractors came out,   all the the younger guys tried to get great grandpa,   you know, to start buying tractors. And he's like, I'll tell you what.  

When you can get me 2 tractors together and they can have a baby tractor,   I'm in.   But, anyway, he told me that   in in his   biblical teachings,   he said that Eve was beguiled by the serpent   in the garden,   which meant   they had sex.   And   she had a child, and that child was   Cain.   And that was the first   Jew that   Satan created   to destroy mankind.   And   then when he killed his brother,   what did God do?   How did he punish him? He   he didn't really punish him. He just took him out of the garden, and he went off to the land of Nodny. He married a Cajun woman or a Asian woman or whatever,   and, and then produced the line of of,   Satan spawn.  

And they've been trying to destroy God's perfect creation   ever since.   Now I yield.  

[02:32:02] Unknown:

Well, I haven't done a very good job of it because there's still plenty alive out here,   and evil has not, taken over. It's not a desolate   Mars type.  

[02:32:18] Unknown:

What about Adam's first life of Lillith?   Say it again, Brent. You're breaking up. What about what about Adam's first wife, Lilith?  

[02:32:31] Unknown:

Right.   He never really talked about that, and I I have heard some stories. I I don't know if that comes out of the book of Enoch,   but I've never read that.  

[02:32:42] Unknown:

Whole thing is, who would Cain have made it with?  

[02:32:47] Unknown:

Yeah.   Hey, Brent. Did you get that thing? Meant there were other people   outside the garden. Right?  

[02:32:56] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:32:57] Unknown:

Or other creatures.   I'm sorry. Go ahead.  

[02:33:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I just wanted to make sure you got that link. Did you get the link, Brent?  

[02:33:11] Unknown:

Brett?  

[02:33:15] Unknown:

Boy, he's like the Flash.  

[02:33:17] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, he's driving. Like you said, he's driving.   Well, if you didn't get the the link, let me know, Brent. I got it for you if you need it.  

[02:33:51] Unknown:

Somebody said the other day, somebody asked a question on some show I was listening to. How many people control the world? And I I thought   this has got to be 6,000,000.  

[02:34:05] Unknown:

Right?  

[02:34:08] Unknown:

The ones that were allegedly killed in during the second World War.  

[02:34:15] Unknown:

No. They're not people.   They're subhuman.  

[02:34:21] Unknown:

But they didn't even exist.   But that's who controls the world.   That that holocaust, that hollahokes,   those 6,000,000   that didn't even exist control the world today as we know it.  

[02:34:40] Unknown:

And just like our currency that we're currently coerced into utilizing,   it's all a fiction. It's all a fraud. It's all a big flipping bloody   lie.   Until we can wrap our craniums around that,   we're gonna be subjugated to what we're being subjugated to,   I would think. I don't know. I  

[02:35:04] Unknown:

probably could be wrong. Think about that word currency,   current,   currency,   liquid,   cash flow,   flowing down the river banks.   I mean,