Friday at the Radio Ranch always means big-picture thinking with Roger Sayles and Brent Winters. In this round we opened with where to listen live, then dove straight into faith, law, and history: from the Jewish High Holy Days and how tradition is interpreted, to Paul’s Damascus Road as a picture of the “general” vs. “effectual” call. Brent laid out a practical 30‑day plan to read First John, unpacked why words and evidence matter in Scripture and in law, and ranged into common‑law roots, usury, and Magna Carta—plus how those ideas collide with today’s politics, policing, and talk of martial law. We wrapped the hour with an extended audience Q&A, including a detailed look at Revelation 13 and what “the mark” might signify in practice. In the after‑show we kept the mics hot: more on the show’s simulcast platforms, where to grab archives and resources, and how to plug into Paul English Live on Rumble. If you’re new, start with the First John challenge Brent outlined, then explore the resources below for deeper dives into common law, national status, and the Radio Ranch community.
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As as would we as the world changes, who would like to see it back in the other direction a bit? We try here at the Radio Ranch, and it is the Friday edition. That means my, cohost, mister Winters, who is generally, Morning, Brent. Brent is with us right there. Today for twelve years or more or something. Long time. If you've never heard of Brent before, you'll you'll be pleased, I believe. Anyway, it's the, third of, the potentially wicked month of October. And, Roger Sales, Brent Winter, and we have, mister Paul Beener there who oversees all bunch of other folks that help us get the message out, and we'd like to give them proper due and credits. So if you would, mister Beaner, please.
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Hey, Brent. Yesterday,
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our, our Yom Kippur was a little bit disrupted. How was yours?
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Your your what was disrupted? Our Yom Kippur. Oh, Yom Kippur. I didn't I don't even pay attention to when our holiday's come around. So I Well, it was yesterday. Yom Kippur or yeah. That's fine.
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Pay attention, but I yes. Well, no. That you know, that is such a wonderful example to talk to folks about these people, our enemies, because it is the it's the highest holy day on the Jewish calendar. You got two. The other one was about two weeks ago called Rosh Hashanah. That's the Jewish New Year. This is Yom Kippur, the day of atonement. Now do you know about this? Bree, you may not know about this. What? The day of atonement, you mean? Yes. Or what's been done to it? Well, I know some things about it, but I suspect I I probably don't know what you're gonna tell me because you think it's important. I I'm telling this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It is important, man. They pay big money to get in those synagogues. If you're not a member of the synagogue already in a contractual agreement with the rabbi, is the the the seats are hundreds of dollars for anybody, any Jew off the street to just walk in.
As I said, it's the highest holy day. I'm just gonna learn a lot and understand it a lot myself, of the Jewish, calendar, and it's the day of atonement. Now up until, I think, around Sabotage v, around 1666 in that era there. He and he was the guy that declared himself to be the Jewish Messiah. K? Uh-huh. And all all of that stuff is really the basis behind Zionism today. These are conclusions I've come to. Uh-huh. But this day of atonement is really special because in that time, you they say at the first of the ceremony, they say an oath called the the Konidre oath.
You've probably heard of that. Right? Uh-huh. Okay. And that absolves them initially of all the lies, stealing, thieving they've done the previous year. Okay. But it sabotage v. They switched it to the upcoming year. Uh-huh. And so now they're like Jane little James Bonds with these licenses to lie, cheat, and steal. Uh-huh. Now incorporate that in over to the synagogue where we know that Jesus said you always want to find the seats in the synagogue, your whitewashed sepulchers, etcetera. Correct? Uh-huh. Well, it came up in the eleventh circuit when I was in Atlanta. It was an appeal out of Miami.
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Mhmm.
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They go into a synagogue and cut a deal with the rabbi in a contract as to which seat in the synagogue they will be assigned on especially this day, but those two holy days specifically. And it's like bragging rights within the Jewish community. K? Mhmm. Which seat do you sit in? So here, you've got this congregant of these people with these ideals and this background and these philosophies and concepts, and you have them take an oath that they can literally lie, cheat, and steal the rest of the upcoming year. So everybody that's sitting in one of the bad numbered seats can look up there. Boy, if I can if I can lie, cheat, and steal a little bit, I maybe I can, get that Roth child seat next year. Mhmm. Mhmm. So it's all designed internally for them to lie, cheat, and steal with impunity.
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Yeah. Uh-huh. I get it. All the all of the Babylonian religion is the same. It always always, and that's all of them, justify lying, cheating, stealing. That's why Jesus Christ, I take it, said to the Pharisees of his day, you covet the highest seats in the synagogue. That's just what you're talking about. This stuff is right on right on point at every everything in the New Testament through the gospels and the epistles, every word, every phrase is a direct refutation or an indirect refutation, refuting of some element of Babylonians' Judaism. Yep. And all Judaism is Babylonian. I have people say to me often, well, but, Brent, but, Brent, what about the the true religion of Judaism? I said there is none.
There's worship of God. It was never called Judaism. By by God, never called it that. And so, then you have the after the Babylonian captivity of God's people, they came back with this religion. And it it's the bat today, the Babylonian Talmud. I'll tell you honestly. Honestly, of course, I don't wanna tell Aphiab. Why would I say that? Unless I was lying the other time to talking. But I I try to stay away from the particulars of Babylonian Judaism. And for this reason, Paul the Apostle was deeper into it than as anybody could be than any man probably ever lived. He was a student of Gamaliel, the great venerated Babylonian rabbi.
And Paul was one of his yellow haired boys. And he was the upcoming fella in the business. He was making money, had girls, probably had boys too. He doesn't say. He just said, oh, I count all of that. All of my academic degrees of learning, that's Babylonian degrees of learning are always Babylonian. The the universities of the world are the product of Babylonianism. And he had all that. He said and he had all the all the sex he wanted, all the drugs, all the booze, all the land, all the prestige. He had it all. He was fully devoted, believed, like charismatic believe today, that if you're worshiping God and doing what he wants, he'll give you lots of money. They had that. He had that too. He had everything. And then he said, I counted all, all of that as human feces. I won't use the word he used, but it means, what, scoots out of your body at the posterior end.
And he's and he uses uses the Greek word, has to do with scudding, to describe all of that. And in all of his description and other than say that about it, he never mentioned it except to say the truth in opposition to all of it. He wouldn't mention it. And if he doesn't wanna talk about it and thinks it ought to be talked about, I figure, well, anything that I know that's false, that I learned that's false is always Babylonian. It's same thing as Judaism. The church is filled with it today and has been always creeping in.
So I try not to talk about it except to say the truth, but every element of truth you say from the revelation of God, that means the Bible, the written word of God, the 66 books. No, not the King James with the extra apocryphal books, not the Roman version of the Latin Vulgate with the extra apocryphal book. No. No. We're talking the Protestant Bible. And all this talk about, oh, they forgot books. They accept no. It's not true. Never happened. Oh, that Constantine chose the books during no. That never happened either. Not in the history of Christianity. Is there any document that says these are the books of the Bible? Not in the history of True. Constantine.
Up until we get to the reformation, they struggled over it again. They struggled. All of them did. They're well known, some of them. And they applied tests to the writings that Rome had put forth and other writings. And they said no to this and yes to that. And it was quite a struggle, by the way. It's quite a struggle for a long time. But in the end, what happened was these are the books that are being universally, that means across the board, Catholic, Catholic, not Roman, Catholic. There's a difference. As a matter of fact, those are terms that cancel each other out. They're oxymorons.
To put them together is absurd. Roman Catholic. No. No. No. Something that's Catholic is not limited. That's what the word means. It's a Latin word. But to put Roman with it limits it to Rome and the priesthood, and that's not what the word means. But it doesn't mean everything or everybody. It means go ahead. Go ahead. Technically, it's an oxymoron in that form. Oh, it is an oxymoron. And I'm not the first one to say that. People have been saying that long before the reformation. And, of course, during the reformation, it was pointed out over and over again. This is silliness. That's the English word for absurd, by the way. Silly. So they quit using it, but they didn't quit using the word Catholic. Why? Because that's biblical, even though it's a Latin word, it is biblical. It's called the church at large.
God's church, I know people complain about that too. Ekklesia sapini, that's the word for a sapini. You can't be a part of God's people unless he subpoenas you. And if he subpoenas you, of course, that's the word for a subpoena in the Roman system. Ecclesia. If he subpoenas you, then that means under pain of penalty. If you don't respond, he'll make you respond. You know, you can get a subpoena from a court. A friend over in Clay County got a subpoena. He was milking cows, and he was selling his milk raw, bringing it to the farmer's market in Terre Haute. And he put right on the cow and jugs, not for human consumption.
Well, that worked for a long time. You know? If you put it right on there as a warning, don't drink this stuff. You know? Of course, people I bought it and drunk it myself, a lot of it. Cheese too. But finally, the the feds got after him, and they talked to state state to get to getting after him. So the judge subpoenaed him. And he thought, well, I don't I'm not got any court cases. Why would I run-in the town to see a judge? Oh, they sent a sheriff's deputy out there. The sheriff's deputy was son of a fella he went to high school with, and he wasn't nice about it. I thought that was inappropriate, but he was pretty nasty.
Well, I got him in front of the judge, but the judge wasn't nasty. But the judge did say this. Look. All I wanted to do was talk to you. I don't wanna rest your three I just wanted you to come talk to me. We asked you to come, and you didn't come, so we subpoenaed you. Now that's the way Christianity works. There are analogies in the Bible of the new birth. One of them is the reformers call it the general call of God. The general call of God. General, that means it applies to everybody. All men know, says Romans chapter one, of God.
They know of his power. Just looking at the heavens, looking at creation, you know, of his intelligence. You know, that's called the general call of God. It goes to all men. Mhmm. And but it is not a subpoena. When you get the subpoena, you respond or he'll put a whooping on you and he'll drag you into court. And he'll say all I wanna do is talk to you. Well, that's what it did to my friend. The judge said I wanted to talk to you and find out what was going on with the feds and all the baloney that's happening. And I had the power to drag your carcass in here, so I sent the sheriff's deputy out and they drug you in. Well, that's what God does. Ask Paul the apostle. He had letters, giving him authority to go to Damascus.
He had a whole entourage. He was well funded, go to Damascus, steal the property of Christian men and women, throw them in jail, and have some of them killed. He had letters of authority from the Sanhedrin. And on the way up there, he was with his entourage riding on his horse, and he got blasted out of the saddle and landed on the ground face down. And then he saw a bright light, but he couldn't see anything. Everybody else there saw a lot of stuff, but they couldn't see what he saw. And then a voice said, Paul, or his name was Saul at that time, Saul. Saul, why are you persecuting me? And he couldn't see. He didn't know what it was. He said, who art thou? That's the old King James, which means who who are you? And, he said, I am, Christ who you are persecuting.
And what what what what do you want me to do? He got his attention, see. God will do that to you. I remember asking to a guy talk one time, and he worked in a sawmill. And, you know, if you got the log on the carriage in the sawmill, that's the thing that carries it forward through the that great big round buzz saw blade. And you can set the carriage to cut it the way you want, it's thick or thin, whatever. And, he was working on the sawmill and getting the leg the logs set on the carriage. And then the carriage, the man that runs the carriage, he throws a lever, and that slams the clamps up against the log so it can't move.
Well, there was a a piece where the blade had run partially through the end of the log on the on the far end. And, he had his hand on the log and his his middle finger was down in that little groove that the saw blade had made. And when that guy hit the lever and threw that lever and clamped that log that closed that, that, gap that the saw blade had made on his finger and he couldn't get his finger out. And the man running the carriage couldn't see him. And that, of course, the saw screams. Those things scream. You can't shout over them. Right. Yeah. He was shouting and that log was moving toward that blade and his finger was in it. And he said this is the thing that got my attention. He had about thirty seconds to for something to happen. And he said during that time that he was moving from there down toward the blade, he was converted to Christianity, and he entered the preaching ministry.
And and he lost his thing. And he lost his finger in or the end of his finger anyway. Anyway. Wow. Anyway, but didn't make any difference. That's God does stuff like that. And don't think he's not rough about it. He is. If he hasn't I was thinking about all those movies I've seen where the the villain ties the fair maiden to that thing. Yeah. He turns on the saw, you know, that scenario. Yeah. So, yeah, God, if he has to play rough, he will. Don't play with him, friends. If you know and you all know, the Bible says it. I believe it, and I know it's true. From experience, you know that God is That means in Latin, he exists.
He has being, and we live and move as it says in acts and have our being. You wouldn't even be if it weren't for him because everything that you have you derive from him. And being is one of the things that you have. The Bible says you can't even come to God and ask for anything unless you believe that he is. That means that he has been. If you believe that he exists, then you might come to him and ask him for something. And the truth is you do. Now you can come to a point where you sear your conscience by being stupid and denying reality long enough that you'll actually believe he doesn't exist. But there was a time when you did, but if you go the wrong way far enough, yeah, you'll go into la la land and you won't have any way to get out except he tried to rescue you.
That's fact, but recognize as the reformers did. And as the Bible does, there are two callings of God. There is the general calling. Spurgeon said it's the calling that is like sheet lightning. You can see it all over the sky. It never strikes the ground. It's just from cloud to cloud. It's beautiful. It's fascinating. That's what everybody sees. But then Spurgeon using that analogy said, but the specific call of God, the effectual call of God, the subpoena of God is the bolt of lightning that breaks between the joints of the harness and knocks your carcass out of the saddle. That's the subpoena.
That's the specific call. That is the election of God. That is what makes a man a Christian. He's not a Christian just because he sees all the fascination of general revelation in creation. We all know that, but people say to me, well, I go out in the woods or up in the mountains and I worship God. I don't need a church house. You're a dodo. No. You don't need a church house, but that ain't gonna get you to the savior and save you from hell knowing there is a God. That's not it. No. If you acknowledge that, that there is a God from creation and all the wonder of it, then the Bible promises he'll take you to the next level. But he will never take you to the next level until you master or acknowledge the first level. I grew up with a preacher's kid. We were in first grade together.
Came time to go to the second grade, they wouldn't let you go to second grade unless you learned how to read. Well, my brother was a year ahead of me, and he'd bring his reader home, and he'd read it. And he read it so much with my mother, my father, and I was of course, I wanted to go to school. I'd listen. I had the whole thing memorized. It wasn't complicated. It wasn't very long, but I did have it memorized. And so when I was in first grade with the same teacher he had, we only had one, then, I go through that book and I go from page to page and look at the pictures and recite whatever it's supposed to say on the page. They'd have a little sentence of four or five words. You know? Well, I got through first grade and went to second grade on the basis of having that book memorized and not knowing how to read. But Oh. Yeah. Yeah.
Well and and I didn't really think I was doing anything wrong. Well, my friend who lived on the other side of the, White Oak Corner where down there where we lived, he was something else, but he was a preacher's kid. And, he got held back, and he was a year behind me all through school. Well, that's the way God does too. If you don't accept what he gives you at one level, you don't go to the next. And if you don't accept that God exists and you you know it's true, but you deny it, well, he's not gonna take you he's not gonna give you more revelation of himself. And every if he finally gets you to the Bible, there is the specific revelation where the specific call and the bolt of lightning can strike from and to you. That's where it happens, and he promises to do that to his elect.
That's what the Bible says. No. That's not a matter of interpretation. There are some things in the Bible that are ambiguous that you can interpret or say that that this what I'm talking about isn't one of those things. There's a general revelation that goes out to all of the world, and everybody sees it, and they all know God exists. But most people and many people won't accept it, and they don't move to square two. But if you do accept it, God will move you to square two. And as you then become equate acquainted with the Bible, everything you learn in the Bible, if you don't accept it, you don't go to step two.
And that's what the Bible says. When I say to you these things I'm saying, they're biblical. You need to go check them out yourself. But if you don't accept them, if you don't accept them once you see them, then you're not taken to the next level. You just remain stupid, and you don't go any further until you accept it. But here's the good news. God says for his people that are truly born from above his elect, he'll get a bill he'll get them to the point they accept it. Another analogy. I went to boot camp. And when I was in boot camp, they said, you gotta jump in the water.
You can't swim? The order is jump in the water anyway. And we all had to jump in the water, and we had to do it from a tower, and we had to do it a certain way. And there were fellows that didn't know how to swim, and they balked. They balked, and they wouldn't do it. And, there were two kinds of people that that didn't know how to swim that would jump in. The ones that refused to jump in. Do you think they just sent them home? No. No. They didn't send them home. They had to do that particular thing. They'd pull them back. Then they go to another company that was coming in. They'd try it again, and they would stay there, I reckon, for forty years if they had to until they jumped.
Oh. Until they jumped. Had one fella, a great big black fella. He jumped in. He told him I can't swim, but I'm not afraid to jump, but I can't swim. They said, what do you mean you can't swim? Well, I never knew how to swim. And if I do jump in the water, I'm just gonna sink to the bottom, and I won't come up. And but I'll do of course, I'll do what I'm ordered to do. So he'd jump in, and he'd sink to the bottom. I saw this. How that happened? I don't pretty big fella. You know, if you have fat on your body, you float better. He looked like he had enough fat on his body, a layer. An average man, had, his body will be 6%, about 6% fat.
And that's enough to float you if you just relax. But this guy was probably more than that, but he how this works, maybe he had big bones that wouldn't flow. I don't know. But he would go to the bottom, and they'd run a pole down to him, and he'd grab hold and they'd pull him out. And he that over and over and over, and they kept pulling him out. He said, I can't sweat. It's not matter of me not wanting to or being afraid. I just and he trusted them to pull him out. That'd been hard to do. But, they kept moving him back. But I'm making the point by that particular story that god's like that. No. He won't move you ahead till you accept what he has for you. Make it easy for yourself because he's not gonna let you go.
If you're the elect, if he has chosen you, if he has given you the new birth, then he's gonna take you where he wants you to go. Don't make it hard on yourself. That's all I'm saying to you. And I dare say most people here would say, yeah. I want to. Well, that's proof positive. If you have that desire, he's put a new desire in your heart. Well, don't make it hard. Just accept what he has for you. But be careful. When it comes to the when it comes to the Bible, he'll he'll keep you straight. If you start doing stupid things and believe in stupid things without evidence without evidence, that's the key, without sufficient evidence that is reliable evidence about what you believe, well, he'll hold you back till you straighten up and say, no. I'm not gonna be stupid anymore. I'm not gonna believe anything, but on just evidence. Are there great little green men that live on the moon?
Oh, could be. But do you have any evidence? No. Well, then don't be stupid. Are is there life on other planets? Oh, you know there is. That's silly to say there isn't. Yeah. But do you have evidence? No. Well, then there don't god doesn't want you to go that way. Not not to say one thing or another, but God just says, I don't want you to do anything but on good evidence. If there's anything that shouts the high heaven, when I as I study the Bible and all these years as it comes through more and more and more, every word and phrase shouts evidence. The Bible is evidence. It's the final evidence of all reality, all reality, evidence of fact.
Well, I say these things, Roger, to talk about Babylonian Judaism, it's we must know it's there, and the Bible is the great antagonist of truth. It is the the the prototype Babylonians Judaism. Notice I didn't say Babylonian Judaism. Because if you say Babylonian Judaism, that gives the impression that there's a good kind of Judaism. No. It's Babylon's Judaism. That's what it is. Mhmm. Because all Judaism is from Babylon. Uh-huh. That's what it is. That's why it's called the their book is called the Babylonian Talmud and Mishnah. Mhmm. Oh, it's from Babylon.
Babylonianism was what governed. Oh, they'll cite like Rome. They'll cite the Bible once in a while, but that doesn't mean that's final, and, of course, it isn't. But we know about it because Jesus Christ went head to head with it, and the words that he had for the folks that were votaries of that of Babylonianism. And it comes in many labels. Romanism, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Seventh day Adventism, and a whole lot of Protestant names that have doctrines that are not Babylonian, but the denomination is entirely black Babylonian. You got that too. It's like the Republican party. Their doctrine, their platform's good, but the party is very dangerous. Well, there are church denominations like that too.
You know, the whole thing about the evil empire is to say one thing and believe another. Say one thing and believe that's politics. That's the polis. That's the law of the city. Say one thing while believing quite another. And so to have a doctrine that's correct, as the Anglican church, for example, the Anglican church, we have listeners in England. The Anglican doctrine is good. The Anglican the 39 articles of Anglicanism are good or great Calvinism. But do you do we do we think that any of the ordained priest who swear an oath to believe those 39 articles believe anything in them? It's abundantly apparent they reject it all. That's Babylonianism too. Just whatever is handy to believe. That's silliness, of course, absurdity.
There is a doctrine that is true, a set of doctrines. What's doctrine? Fancy word means, in English, teaching. Doc means what you're given. Doctor's degree, a guy that has been given a lot, and he's supposed to be given a lot. That's what that means. That doesn't happen much either. But just the words are important in the Bible because the words in the Bible mean what they mean. You can go to that book and count on it. Whatever it says, that's it. If you can figure out what it says, it takes work to study. That not a lot. Sometimes you just read it. Hey. I'd start out and say, just read the stuff that's easy, that is clear, and just believe it. You can't go wrong, friends. If there's something that's obscure to you, leave that aside. You'll spend the rest of your life trying to master the stuff that's easy and never even get to it all. And I suggest you get started.
Had a fellow yesterday, Roger, two days. Where are we? No. Two days ago. I I said to him the thing I've been saying on here for years, and some of you that listen have taken me up on it. It's this. Take the book of first John. First John was the only one of the 12 man jury that Jesus Christ empaneled that wasn't murdered wasn't murdered for his verdict. John. But take his writings. He was the jury foreman. First John, start with that. And five short chapters, you could read it pretty quick. When you get up in the morning and your mind's fresh, read it. And do that every day for thirty days. Every day for thirty days.
And every time you do it, you may be tired and don't wanna do it. Once you start, you'll say, hey. I'm glad I'm doing this. It's a matter of discipline. You'll see new things, and you'll you'll be enlightened. Your mind will be enlightened. You will know what others don't know, and you will be humble about it. The word of God humbles you. Do that. There's not a more profound book in the bible by a man any more any less educated. There's nobody that wrote books of the bible had any less education than, John the apostle, and he didn't have any.
I don't he had no formal education at all. Had no vocabulary to amount to much. You read that book. You read that book. Simple? Yes. Small vocabulary? Yes. But the profundity will blow you away every time something hits you. And every time you read it, you'll see more and more and more. And keep in mind when you read it, it is a series of tests, a series of tests. It has a jurat that's sworn to, that he is a competent witness for what he's saying. Eyes, ears, he saw it, felt it, handled it. And then he gives you a series of tests whereby you may know, know that you are born from above. And whereby you may know that another is, if you wonder.
And you master that book and you'll know. You'll read it 30 times. You won't you'll be on top of it more than it's on top of you, but you won't know everything. I've been reading that book, translating that book. I would say I'm more familiar with that book probably than any book in the Bible. I've been over so many times. I still go over it. I'm going I just finished going over it now and buffing up my translation. And every time I go went through it this time, I just today, just this morning, I went back. No. That was in Jude. I followed up. That wasn't in, wasn't in John.
But I I see new things. I I commend that to you. Thirty days, friends. You can have the whole new testament read 30 times in about two and a half years if you did that every day with chunks about that large. Back to you, Roger.
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Brent, I wanted to ask you a couple of things in that wonderful, story you just showed her this enlightening of all these facts. A a couple of weeks ago, you were I'm not I'm not familiar with the guy that was Paul's teacher. It starts with a g, Jamail. Is that what you said?
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Gamaliel.
[00:34:22] Unknown:
Gamaleel. Yeah. I've never heard him. Now you said a couple of weeks ago that he had said maybe we murdered the wrong guy,
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a a little reformer. Yeah. Let me get this spelled for you while you're on it. I'm glad you said it. I didn't pronounce it correctly. G as in golf, a as in alpha, m as in Mike, a as in alpha, l as in Lima, I as in indigo, e as in echo, l as in Lima. Gamaliel Gamaliel. Okay. And he was, of the most famous, well known, leading Jewish rabbis in the Sanhedrin in the first century, in the time of Jesus Christ, in the time of Paul the Apostle. And he is recognized as the Pharisaic doctor doctor. That's a they're using their impressing when the people use that, they're impressing an English idea. Oh, no. Not in English. A Christian idea.
A Christian idea. A word into rabbinic Judaism, but he was a member of the Sanhedrin. And in Acts chapter 22 verse three, he's referenced he's referenced and he says this. Paul the apostle says in a speech before brethren and fathers, before the Jews. And he spoke this, by the way, in the Hebrew tongue. And he's speaking as a Roman citizen brought before the Jewish council there locally. He said, I am I'm reading from the English translation, one of them. I am verily a man, which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city of Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and as the rabbi, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God as ye are all this day.
He says the law of the fathers, the law of the fathers, the called the law of the elders. That's what it was called in the first century today. Uh-huh. It's called the Talmud.
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It was the oral tradition also referred to. Right?
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At that time, it was not written down supposedly and was passed along orally. It was the true law. It trumped the Bible. The tradition was it came from the 70 elders during the time of Moses. It was never written down, and that's why they said in the Talmud, they said that the Bible is for women, mental idiots, retarded people, children, and other mental deficient. But the Talmud, the law of the elders, the fathers, is the true law and only we number one, only we know it. And beyond that, we're the only ones that can understand it. Women, children, and other mental deficient can't.
That's Babylonian Judaism.
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Now I asked one day some of the audience because I didn't know this. You're on with us verify with you. That from the time they returned and were released out of Babylon until Jesus came along was about six hundred years. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. At least.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, let's just use that as a metric. Yeah. Thereabouts. Go ahead. And then after they murdered him, it still went on as the oral tradition for another five hundred years before it was written down. That's called the Sunoco version of the Babylonian Talmud, I believe. So we had eleven hundred years where people played secret in a circle with all this stuff. Do you know what I'm saying? Oh, I do know what you're saying. In all Babylonian
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form or labels of Babylonianism have a law for the elite. Elite is the French word that means elect, the chosen ones. French elite. And they always, false religion, Babylonianism always has an elite that knows what the unwashed masses don't know, and then all the unwashed masses, Us folk, are supposed to trust them for what the law is. Romanism Mhmm. Rabbis of Judaism, priesthood of Romanism, Mormonism has that. Islam has it. They have a sect of sages that are specially trained to interpret and understand their holy writings, the Quran, etcetera, the traveler. It's always the same. You get anytime you got a priesthood or something that looks like a priesthood, that means you're supposed to trust them and not God. Right.
Buddhism, Hindu, all that stuff. It's all the same. The gurus and the the the guides of the all that spiritually hyped up hogwash. I didn't use a word as strong as Paul the Apostle uses. Okay. Can we circle back to Gamelio or whatever his name was? I was just saying. Gamelial. Uh-huh.
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Gamelial. Then you say and the reference I just heard you in passing, we're talking about something else. Did did he say that perhaps they had murdered the wrong guy?
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Well, Gamaliel made this was it made Gamaliel? Oh, you have to go look. The you know, the chief rabbi of the Sanhedrin was the number one man. The Sanhedrin, as they say it, is the the high court of last resort of Israel. But 71 members, so there would never be a tie. And, the the rabbi, I believe it was Gamaliel Hill. He is the one and then you you go look. I'm throwing it out to you folk. You go look for yourselves. That's what you ought to be doing anyway. I'll have to check it out. But at that time, said when they were deciding what to do about Jesus Christ, they were making him look bad just being there, things he was saying.
And they said, well, we need to kill him, you know, and, well, they wanna get rid of it. And the chief member said, how do we know this isn't from God? And we know for a fact that they knew it was. How do we know that this man is not from God? How do we know that that was a rhetorical question? Because the fact is they did know that he was from God. How do I know? The Bible says so. The a member of the Sanhedrin named Nicodemus came to Jesus Christ in John chapter three, and it makes a point in the genitive case of makes a point of pointing out that he came to him at nighttime. That means he came to him in secret. He didn't want any of his colleagues on the Sanhedrin to know that he had come to talk to him in private.
And he said to him, I'm quoting from John's record of what Nicodemus said. Nicodemus said, we know. Plural. First person, we. Who's that? Me and my colleagues, my brethren on the high court. We know that thou are a teacher coming from God. For only any is there any man who could do what you do? That proves that you have been with God. Oh, what did John say at the beginning of that gospel two chapters earlier? Says what we have seen no. It says, in the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God. And the Logos was God, and then it says he was with God in the beginning.
And then he continues to talk, and he points out that the Logos is Jesus Christ, the Messiah. Well, Nicodemus said and testified that we on the Sanhedrin know because no man could do these things. It's like John Locke said. Jesus Christ life was not just a miracle here punctuating his life here or there. You go to the gospel records and he suspended he suspended the laws of nature temporarily on every page. His life was a blaze of miracles. What is a miracle? It is a temporary suspension of the normal courses of the laws of nature. Well, he's the giver of the laws of nature. He is God in human flesh.
He is the creator of all things seen and unseen, the Bible says. So having given these laws of nature, he has authority to suspend them if he wants or change them even if he wants. But he said he won't do that, but he will suspend them. And he did, and that's called a miracle. And when he did those miracles, he convinced people that what he said was true. As John Locke put it, John Locke said that the miracles of Jesus Christ substantiated his credit as proposer of doctrine. The miracles of Jesus Christ, the purpose was them of them was not primarily to heal people, was not primarily to wow people.
It was primarily to say, hey. No man can do what this man does, except he is with God. By the way, that preposition with is important. It's a Greek preposition in. It means in, with, and by the power of. Those are three, not the only ones, but those are three strong translations of that word. Every time I come to that word in the Greek New Testament, and it appears hundreds of times, I've got to make a decision which one of those three I'm gonna use, or maybe another one within, within. You combine two of them. But in every case it's used, it means all of those things, but you can't put it into smooth English that way and expect anybody to read it. So I generally, as most people do, choose one of the concepts. But the truth is when the Bible says with or in or by, it means all that more. Jesus Christ is so in inextricably bound into the godhead, and you see this with the preposition the Bible uses about him, that he is, of course, part of the godhead.
That is not ambiguous. That's not a matter of opinion either. It's so blatantly obvious and everything the Bible says that it's utterly the evidence is utterly undeniable. But if you won't accept it, there's nothing I can do to make you do that. I would I've had people listen here in other places just climb my frame almost because I assert that Jesus Christ is God reduced to the span of a man in flesh. Well, that's what the Bible teaches. The Messiah of God in the Old Testament is Yahoah. That's easy enough. Oh, so Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus Christ accepts worship of men. Men fell down at his feet and worshiped him, and he never said get up.
Every angel of God that appears in the Bible where that happened, and that did happen because angels appear glorious to men, and men would fall down in the Bible and worship them. And in every case that happened, they said, get up. I'm a creature, a created being like you. So I'm a creature of God. Don't worship me. The Bible, of course, forbids the worship of angels. But Jesus Christ, he never said, don't get up. Get up. And the Bible says all will fall down and worship him at some point. Well, that's what the testimony is. That's the evidence I see I see for what it's worth. But everything about him, his miracle substantiated as John Locke said, and John Locke, by the way, was a Puritan and a a believer, a supporter persuaded fully that the Bible had no errors in it. He was an inerrantist, and he rejected all the false books of the Bible that people bring forward for the good reasons that are that the Bible gives for what constitutes a writing that is inerrant scripture, part of the Bible.
All of these things that Jesus Christ did, though, in the Bible, he had the worst words, the most damning words, the most terminal words for those leaders of Babylonian Judaism, the Pharisees, the Sadducees, those kind of fellows. By the way, the Sadducees were different than the Pharisees. Paul here, when I read I wanted to read what it said here. It kinda amazed me, and it's a good it's a good thing to read. Let me this is how Paul handles, the evil empire we live in. This is a good account. He did this often. Listen to what he says. This is his speech before the leaders of Babylonian Judaism. My brethren and my father and fa men. No, he says men, brethren and fathers hear ye my defense, which I make unto you.
And when they heard that he spoke in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence. And he saith this, I am verily a man, which I'm a Jew born in Tarsus, a city of Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel and taught according to the perfect manner, the perfect manner, he says, of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God as ye all are this day. I'm one of you. I'm one of your kinfolk. I sat at the feet of Gamaliel. I've listened to what I'm telling you, and I persecuted I persecuted this way unto death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.
Here he is telling what is he's George Soros, you see. Yeah. George Soros, same deal. It's part of their culture. And also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders of whom I also received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus to bring them which were there bound in chains, is the idea, to Jerusalem for to be punished at the pleasure of the Sanhedrin. That's what he meant. They knew what he meant. And it came to pass that as I made my journey and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light around about me, and I fell into the ground.
And I heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And I answered, who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And they that were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid, and they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. And I said, but what shall I do, Lord? And he said unto me, arise and go into Damascus, and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, he blinded.
I came to Damascus. Now notice, again, I'd used this while ago as a biblical example of the specific call of God. Not the lightning from cloud to cloud that lights things up and looks pretty, but doesn't do anything. I'm talking about the lightning bolt that strikes, as Spurgeon says, between the joints of the harness and knocks you flatter than a flitter, the effectual call of God. You can't deny it. You don't have any choice about it at that point. It's do or die. Paul, the arrogant ass that he was, at that point wasn't wasn't being arrogant. All he could say is, Lord, who art thou, and what do you want me to do?
He was not cleaned down so far that his face was in the dirt, not to mention other parts of his anatomy. And all he could do at that point, he couldn't look down. All he could do is look up. And when god has you down on the ground, down. This happened to Martin Luther. I always had, I'm not a Lutheran. I don't wanna be a Lutheran. I've never been a Lutheran, wouldn't wanna be a Lutheran. But Martin Luther was on his way. He'd he'd quit law school. His father was a coal miner, had his own little outcrop of coal, had an independent business going, and he had a little money. And he wanted to send his boy to law school, and he did. And he got worried and upset and fearful for his sin, going to hell, and he decided he wanted to be a monk.
He was going back to school, him and his friend, and lightning struck. It struck so close, it killed the fellow that was with him, the boy that was with him, knocked Martin onto the ground. Kind of analogous to what happened with with Paul the apostle. Yeah. If you've been maybe if you've lived, I can say from personal experience, I had lightning strikes so close to me one time, and we shut the tractors down when the lightning came. We got out of the field, but I was with my cousin Harold. Cousin Harold and I had two five gallon buckets, and the storm was coming. The lightning was cracking. It wasn't wet yet, and a bolt of lightning hit so close.
I could feel the electricity in the air. And Harold was nine years older than me, and he I was teenager. He come around with that five gallon bucket. Fortunately, it didn't have anything in it. He trying to knock me to the ground, so I'd be a small target, but it was too late, of course. We went to the ground. It can't do it. That's what happened to Martin Luther. And according to his testimony, he screamed out, Saint Anne, save me. Of course, Saint Anne couldn't save me. That's necromancy. The Bible forgives praying to dead saints, by the way. If any of you engage in those kind of things, stop it. The Bible says don't engage in necromancy.
What's that? Well, necrosis is a Greek word that means dead. Don't try to communicate with the dead. And if there's an attempt by the dead that you think they're trying to communicate with you, stay away from them. Don't talk to them. That stuff does happen. Don't do it. Don't try it. Stay away from it. The Bible commands it. Well, he did that, and he became a monk. Really? No. I'm getting my sequence straight. He became a monk because of that experience. That's what it was. He got involved in monkery. Things got crazier from there. But by making the point, that's the picture that can be made of the specific the specific effectual effectual, that mean it that means it does something, call of God. Looking at creation doesn't do anything, except maybe if you're paying attention, you should be in awe.
It does that. But as the reformer said, the revelation of creation around you is a revelation of condemnation, a revelation of condemnation. That's the laws of nature. It's an important step that God gives us of the acknowledgment, but don't kid yourself. It only condemns you. You know there's a God. You know you you're responsible to him, but you have no way of knowing how to be snatched from hell. So the revelation in nature is condemnation. The revelation of the Bible is salvation. And if God doesn't God if you acknowledge the revelation of creation, he'll bring you to the the law written. William Blackstone, author of those four volumes on the laws of England called called the common law, says in his first volume, he calls the first volume well, the first volume of his four volumes. He says the first volume of law there are two volumes in our common law tradition. The first volume is the laws of nature.
The laws of nature apparent in creation. The second volume, he says this is in the year 08/1765, eleven years before our declaration of '76. The second volume, he calls the laws of nature's god. He says that's the bible. He says the first volume, the laws of nature, is lex non scripta. Lex non scripta. Latin, fancy words for lawyers, law not written. It's law, but it's not written down. That's nature. That's our common law tradition. And the second volume, our common law tradition, by the way, is observations of the way things are, and they ain't gonna change because God made them that way. Then there's that second volume he says is the laws of nature's God.
And that's the Bible, lex scripta, law written. The Bible is his God's recorded revelation in writing of his will. The will of the sovereign, whoever you take to be your sovereign, everybody agrees all over the world about this and has always agreed, the will of the sovereign is law. That's the maximum of Babylonianism. Well, is the will of the sovereign law? Yes. But you better make sure you got the right sovereign, the maker of heaven and earth and all that in them is. That's William Blackstone saying that. Why is it they don't read Billy Bill Blackstone, Billy Blackstone? Why don't they read him in the law schools anymore? Well, yeah, that's the reason why. He says things like that.
God forbid that we should let lawyers even read that if they're trying to learn to be lawyers. That law is eternal. It is the mind of God. It is recorded as a court of last resort in that book we call the Bible. God forbid that any lawyer acknowledge that. I filed a paper in federal court once, federal district court. Some fellow stole a patent. I filed a paper, and the the lawyer on the other side was a he had been a union lawyer all his life. He was a thug. Yep. A thug. Oh, he was nasty. And the court, the judge, Roger the judge I like the judge. I've told this story. Judge, he was his name was Mahoney, and he was Irish. He was classic, and I liked him a lot.
And he said Mahoney said, obviously, there's a problem here. And he said, you you boys gonna have to do some mediation. I'm not gonna hear any more about this case until I know you've really tried to settle it. So it's not a matter of worrying about he's trying to help us. He said, I don't want you boys to be going back and forth on the telephone. And then we weren't boys. We were men, and he was older than me. At least ten years. And, he said, I'm gonna put you in this room or this conference room over here, and I'm gonna put a United States marshal at the door, and you're gonna stay in there for three hours.
So make sure make a head call, he said, before you go in there. And I was thinking to myself, this guy's a thug, and he was six and a half feet tall too, by the way. We're right at it. Somewhere thereabouts. And I said, maybe this is the way the Irishman thinks problems ought to be settled between men. I reckon that's what he thought. Well, the US marshal took us down there, and he put us in that conference room. There was nobody there, and he stood at the door. And I thought a little bit hesitant. Oh, I can be nasty if I have to. You know? Well, I got in there. Of course, then I that was when I discovered that he's more afraid of me than I was of him.
Because once we got locked in that room and, we were sitting there at that table across from each other, He started having nervous fits, and I could tell he didn't know what to do, what to say. He was just a big bully, you know, blowing and going all the time. Well, that's just part of the story. Long story about that case. Didn't turn out the way I hoped it would, but we went back in and we couldn't get it settled in three hours. All he did was scream,
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and the music is here for Radio Ranch friends, and this is Yeah. We're gonna drag Paul. Hold your thumb thumbnail your position with mister, mister Judge here, and we'll get Paul out and do our dues and continue.
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Very quickly. Very quickly, run to the matrixdocs.com, the matrixd0cs.com, and pick one of the other platforms that will carry us throughout the second hour, like eurofolkradio.com or Global Voice Radio Network. If you are one of the platforms or one of the services of the net family of broadcast services that is dropping off at the top of the hour, go to the matrixdocs.com. 106.9wb0ufmchicago. Thanks for being with us. Ciao. There you go. Alright. Brent,
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get your thumbnail out of the wall there and continue on. I got a question or two to ask you anyway, but go ahead if you
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I'll I'll oh, I forgot where I was going with the story. Roger, you just You're talking about the judge. Across the conference table. Oh, I know what it was. Yeah. I got it. I remember I was gonna make the point. So we filed more papers. I don't remember what. I was complaining that he was conflicted. And I dropped a footnote, and I said or I put in the pleading, no man can serve two masters. You can't be a lawyer that's conflicted is conflicted. That means his loyalty is divided, and divided loyalty is no loyalty at no loyalty at all. And I'd quoted that verse in Matthew where Jesus Christ said, no man can serve two masters, and no lawyer can serve two clients.
They're at odds with each other. The the law forbids it. And I was making that argument, quoted that verse, and he came back and said there will be no more quoting the Bible in pleadings. Now well, I liked I liked him. Don't get me wrong. But he's wrong. He was wrong. Mhmm. I can I can show you appellate cases by the hundreds that have quoted the Bible? Matter of fact, I think I've got I know I've got about 500 appellate cases cited in the winterized translation of the Bible. In the footnotes, about 500, I know it's between four and five hundred, of cases, most all of them after World War two alone, where the federal state appellate courts in America have quoted the Bible to make their points.
But there is that attitude in the legal profession that the Bible has nothing to do with anything. That's, again, of course, silliness. Utter silliness. Why would I quote men what some goofy state legislatures have said or some goofy goofballs in Congress have said is legislation. Why would I say that? Be free to say that and not be free to say what everybody knows, whether they admit it or not, is the is the reliable record of what God has said. Jesus Christ himself, his words recorded while he's on Earth, not to mention his words recorded throughout history in the Old Testament.
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Well, that was all I was gonna say. Roger, you were gonna say something. Yeah. I was gonna ask you something. Just curious. The Renaissance in Europe when they built all those gothic establishments, churches, and all that stuff Uh-huh. Wasn't that when usury was banned?
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You oh, we were gonna talk about that today, Roger. Usury. Oh, certainly. Certainly. It was banned. And, during that time, I just know there came a point where the even the church of Rome wouldn't allow it. But, of course, they allowed it at their see, here's what Rome always wants to do. They want a monolith of of totality of government, and we'll forbid usury, but we'll allow it and we'll give a monopoly of it to whomever we want, like the Knights Templar. You know? That's the way that works. Of course, the Knights Templar took over banking in Europe and became Started it. Started it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in a big way. Yeah. In in in a very sophisticated way like it never been done before. It wasn't it wasn't there before.
People are always trying to do that kind of stuff, but they don't make it into a system, but it was forbidden for everybody else. Just like in England, you read Magna Carta. There are several several, chapters of Magna Carta that deal expressly with the Jewish money lenders and what to do about it. Because usury was against the law, had been, and was at that time against the law in England. But the crown needed easy money as did a lot of other men. And so what they did was they let the they'd borrow money from the Jews. And the Jews were glad to loan it because the Jews had no legal protection anywhere. They
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they In a period of time over there, I'm sorry to interrupt, but they were actually the king's property. Yes. And he he owned them.
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Yes. And and he wanted to keep him happy like a like a herdsman wants to keep his animals happy. And the way to do that is let them compile money and money, not property, not land, not livestock, nothing but money is the only protection they had. And the king and some of his cronies wanted that access to the money they compiled through usury, and they did it secretly. But there was no law that protected them from death. They the courts would not entertain cases they filed. And if a Jew went in was sued, he would lose and every why? Because that was the law. If you weren't Christian, you had to say you were Christian. A lot of people said they were, of course.
You had no rights. None. You had to be Christian. Merchant of Venice, Shakespeare.
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Shylock.
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Yeah. At the end, Shylock, what the court ordered him. That was in Italy for crying out loud. The court ordered him to become a Christian, and he had no choice. And so he said, I I've converted, but he couldn't stand it. He couldn't take it. Yeah. It chafed him so badly. Well, the truth chafes chafes people that are apostate.
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I will get my pound of flesh.
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Yeah. And all that stuff. And he'd he won it. Of course, they wouldn't the courts wouldn't uphold that. That was usury, and that was part of the contract. They wouldn't uphold it because the law there forbade drawing of blood. And there was no way he tried to think of a way to get his pound of flesh without causing bleeding, but there was no way he could do it. Long story. But the point that's good, Roger, just to bring that up for illustration purposes. But, so the king wanted the to have the access to the money, and they were charging, by the way, in Magna Carta during that time. And Magna Carta was written to try to stop it because the crown was borrowing money from the Jewish money lenders in England at rates of 43 and a third to 83 and a third percent per year. Now that's according to the records that we could the primary sources that the leading commentators on Magna Carta give us, and I have no reason not to well, what made the landowners mad why Magna Carta occurred was the crown was using money he had borrowed from the Jews in England illegally, of course. That's not legal.
And he had taken a massive amount of gold and silver, borrowed it from the Islamic sultan of Morocco on a promise that he would make all of England Islamic. And at the self same time, he had borrowed an unknown number amount of money from the pope of Rome under a promise that he would make all of England, the pope's fiefdom where he could get rents and profits from all of the land in England. And then he had borrowed from the Jewish money lenders. He was hocked up to his ears to Judaism, Romanism, and Islam. And that's all in Mago Carta. It's all there. And was amassing an army of Frenchmen paid for with that money to invade England and crush the landholders.
And they understood it. They figured it out. And that's why they amassed an army, amassed an army under Marshall, who had been adviser to the king's parents, and then he Marshall was quite a man. Marshall saved England. Marshall. Whoever heard of him? He was the foremost, sports figure of his day. He was as popular as Larry Bird in his day or Nick Bucas in his day. All over Europe, he was a master jouster, and jousting was the chief sport. He was the most famous man in all of Europe, including Britain. He was advisor to the crown. He is the inventor the inventor in its modern form of chivalry.
And he's the one that had control of the army, said this has gotta stop. He was the emissary between the crown and the forces of the or and and the forces of the of the landholders. And he's the one that brokered deals to try to get all the madness to go away to go away along with Stephen Langton, archbishop of Canterbury, drafter of Magna Carta. And the pope of Rome, of course, excommunicated him for having done so. But he was a biblicist too, the chief Old Testament commentator of his day. This is the his this is our history, friends. This is who we are, and this is why the things things are the way they are. But Magna Carta, if you're interested more on this, I have two lectures on Magna Carta. One of them about thirty hours long. You can go to commonlawyer.com and get those lectures.
And the other one is a class that we taught that was very long. It was longer than most because I went clear through Magna Carta, tried to cover every detail of every clause, clause by clause, and blow by blow. And you can get that at magnacarta.com and take that course, and you can listen to the lectures. Had a friend in Montana call me, said Brent. Yeah. What is it? This is in 02/2015. He said, I don't know if you noticed, but this is the the the June 15 of this year is the eight hundredth anniversary of the sealing of Magna Carta. People say the signing of Magna Carta, Magna Carta was never signed. King John didn't sign it. And the reason he didn't sign it was because he probably didn't know how to write his own name as did anybody else, the barons. So they didn't they instead of signing it, they put their seal on it, which is equivalent to certification, but I just try to be accurate. It was sealed.
On the 06/15/1215, he said, Brent, you ought to do a series of lectures on Magna Carta to commemorate the eight hundredth year. So we did that first set of thirty hours on Magna Carta in, 2015, and that's available, I believe, on the website. But then I taught it in more detail, and I knew a lot more ten years later. And I taught the course just recently, frankly, almost ten years later. About two years ago. Right?
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What?
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About two years ago is when you did the Okay. About two years ago. That's probably right. I remember where I was when I did it. But I, of course, enjoyed it very much because when I teach Roger, I learn a whole lot more. The people that listen, if they listen, they learn a lot. But I heard I learn a whole lot more than them. That's the way it works. If you wanna learn something, teach it. Yes, sir. And so if you take these, listen to these lectures, and when you start telling other people about it, you'll learn it better too. Well, I just like I come to these presentations here, and people think they get a lot out of it, and I'm glad they do.
But I get more out of it than you do because when I teach it and go over it, I think of things I I never could have imagined. It's amazing Yeah. What I think of. I I put I I connect dots while I'm talking. Yeah. Well, Paul the apostle made these kind of speeches often, and he identified himself to other Jewish leaders. One time he said, I am a Jew. Oh, yeah. This is in Hebrews. No? No. It wasn't Hebrews. The New Testament, though, he said, I am a Jew of Jews, a a Pharisee of Pharisees, of the tribe of Benjamin. Nobody's more Jewish than I am. Because I followed Babylonian Judaism, he was talking to the Sanhedrin, see. And he here's what he did. This is fascinating to read the book of Acts. Acts is pure history, pure fact, pure testimony.
There's no theology in it, no assertion of philosophy, just facts. Luke wrote Acts. Luke wrote more of the New Testament than any other writer, and he only wrote two books, and they're long. Luke and Acts. Well, he makes a point. He saw that he sensed that there was a dispute on the Sanhedrin between the Pharisees, the Pharisees, I call them, and the Sadducees, the Pharisees and the Sadducees. The Pharisees, the Pharisees, they believed in the resurrection of the dead.
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The Sadducees did not. Oh, that's pretty big in their arena.
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Yeah. And you can remember that. Just remember the Pharisee the Pharisee the Pharisee and the Sadducees. What was the difference? Well, the fundamental difference between the two was that the Sadducees did not accept that God ever suspended the laws of his his laws of nature. He never, therefore, did miracles. So they didn't believe and read the resurrection of the dead. So we used to say when I was a boy growing up, go to Sunday school, they'd say, well, remember, the sad UCs didn't believe in the resurrection, and that's why they are so sad. You see?
And I remembered it that way, and I still remember it that way. Just a little That's an called a an a Memory peg. Little memory peg. Memory peg. That's why they're so sad, you see. But Paul the Apostle saw that there was this well, he knew it. He was one of them. And so he decided that he'd get them fighting over that and he'd get, they'd spring him loose and forget about him. And that's exactly what happened in one case in the book of Acts. And he said, I am a Pharisee of Pharisees, and I believe in the resurrection of the dead. He said that. And then they got into a fight. And then he got loose and ran away. That's really what happened in that case.
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The reason that struck me when you were saying is I was listening to somebody the other day, Joel Scousen, I think, or somebody talking about what's going on in Gaza and how the Jews are almost beside themselves to get a body back because they don't believe in resurrection. Oh, really? That's what a lot of the Gaza stuff is. Some of the hostages, the, Israeli hostages they've got over there, no doubt, dead now. I don't know how boiled, but that's some stinky tunnels down there. Yeah. But, but that's what this whole latest initiative is about, and, that's very interesting on on another reason that they want the body back to I don't know what they do with it in their ceremony, but that's very important to them as well. An amazing,
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false religion has a million different angles to try to deny the resurrection of the dead. One of them is reincarnation. They got they got their angle on that. You know? I was up at the state fair one time, and we went, we'd go it was an agricultural fair. You know? And there's a lady there playing the harpsichord. She'd probably 30, 40 years old, and she had had she painted with corn cob. By the way, that it makes beautiful painting. Just take a corn cob after the corn is hard. You know? And then Uh-huh. And then pick the about this time of year around here at home, the corn's that way. It gets through the roasting air stage, and then you got hard corn. And just take the corn cob and dip one side of it, one and a little bit of paint and just rub it all over a all over a canvas.
It makes the most beautiful designs because of the way the photograph is built. Yeah. Well, she was making paintings like that, and then she got to paint her playing her harpsichord. She played some old country tunes, and and she stopped. She said, by the way, does anybody in the audience believe in reincarnation? And one fellow said, I do. And she said, well, good to see you again. And then she went off. I was just making fun of it. You know? Well, you got reincarnation. But that drives you into a misery of life where you look for death, and that's what India does with Buddhism.
You know? You come back, and they've got the caste system, and that's just nothing but but misery, of course. And there's no productivity. It stinks. It's ugly. You can't get out of your caste while you're alive. The only way you can do it is die and hope you do better, but you don't. No. That's not Christianity, friends. No. And, I've met Indians that have come here to try to escape it. Talked to one fella, bought a car off of him. He was in Kansas City. He was a computer geek. And I told asked him why he came. He told me, well, you just couldn't get ahead because my family we were in a lower cast, and we couldn't people think we live in a modern world. We don't. False religion's always here. And he said, I come over here.
But after talking to him to him for a while, it was abundantly apparent. He was still hanging on to that religion. He whatever it was. Hinduism. You know? And, he he still even though the caste system, he hated it, he still hung on the demonism still had a hang on him. So he couldn't get he couldn't get out of it. And he was depressed and upset. His wife was on top of him all the time. He had he was making $300,000 a year. What a miserable man. That's all I remember. But false religion is that way always. You know, you can be if you're born from above, you can be a happy man and have nothing. I've seen it. I've experienced it. It's really true. It's not cause of me. It's just cause of whatever God does with you. That's what it is. Oh, yeah. You do have joy. You know, joy is the stuff that's underneath that just doesn't change. Mhmm. You don't always look happy. You can be having a bad day, but deep down inside, you're okay. See? That's what we're after. And when I said a while ago about reading first John, the thirty days, when I was a young fella in my twenties, I ran across a book written by a fellow that used to live in my neck of the woods. I didn't know anything about him. Didn't know he read a book, wrote a book. But he was, he was song leader at one time at a Presbyterian church in Sullivan, Indiana down here along the Wabash River. That's down the neck of woods where my family had originally come this neck of the woods. That's where they landed. First, it was in South Central Indiana.
Kinda interested me, so I so I, got the book. And I got to read more about him, and he eventually became a professor at Moody up in Chicago. And he wrote a book called how to master how to master the English Bible, the English Bible. You're not talking about professorship type stuff. You just take your Bible and master it. And he said, he saw a fellow once he went somewhere, I don't know where it was. He was sitting under a tree and he got to know him. He noticed he was, he wasn't upset or nervous all the time or just a relaxed guy to be with. And he asked him what it was. He said, well, I don't know. I I'll tell you what I think it is. He said, you know, it says in first John that John writes he wrote that book so that the readers and the hearers of that book would have joy.
Because the joy that they ought to have, everything's been done to fulfill it, but they're not enjoying it. That's really what the book's about. Not to know you have joy. If you know, there's no way you're going to hell. That give a guy quite a bit of confidence, Roger. I mean, if you really know that you can't lose it, you can't get rid of it yourself in a fit of anger, nobody can take it away from you. I mean, if you really believe that, life becomes different. Well, he asked this guy that, and he said, well, it says out there. I said, well, I wanted to know. And he said, he writes these things to you that you may know. And that word there for knowledge, the Greek word that's there, it means to know. But it doesn't just mean to know because you read a book. It means to know because you've experienced it.
Christianity is not philosophy. It's not intellectualism. It's an enlightenment of the mind that experience confirms all of it to you over time As you move forward in your education, as God edumacates you and moves you from first grade to second grade, like we were talking about a while ago, once you accept what he gives you, he will give you experiences that will ram home the truth. And And then you don't just know it. No, no. You don't just know about it. You know it. And there's a difference in English. We say he doesn't just know the law, know about the law. He knows the law. There's a difference. You know, you marry your wife, but while you're courting her, you knew a lot of things about her. You met her mom and dad, and you knew where they lived. And you knew a lot about her, but you you're never gonna know her until you give it at least ten years of being behind closed doors. Then give it twenty, thirty, forty of being behind closed doors in every way you can be.
And then you don't just know about her. You know her, and you don't quit knowing her. And the longer you're around her, the more you know her and the more she knows you, doesn't know about you. I'd like to get to know you. You remember that little song Roger Houston? Who was that, Roger? Well, it was one of the English bands. I'd like to get to know you. Oh, yeah. You know it. Yeah. That gets in my head. I've it's on the radio all the time. Oh, who is that band? It may have been an American band. Anyway, I remember the song. Well, we can look it up, but somebody will. No doubt. No doubt. Well, that's the way it is with God. Paul, and in that book, first John, John says, I write into your little children because you have known the father.
Known. Genosco. Oh, you know who your father is. A little child said, dada. You know, that's all he knows. Yeah. You said just Genosco to start with a g in Greek.
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Yeah. G. Uh-huh. Genosco. It's kenoso in Spanish. It starts with a c. Oh,
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see. Latin, Greek based languages. But it's in in Greek, and maybe it isn't Latin and, Spanish. I don't know. But it's a word that means acknowledge gotten from experience. You know it because you saw it with your own eyes. You touched it with your own hands, that sensual firsthand experience through the senses.
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In in in Spanish, they will use a word, and it means to whatever. So I believe the root word is there, and it would mean to know.
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Yeah. And there's a word in the Greek New Testament that means no intellectually because you read it in a book or somebody told you, but you don't have firsthand experience. Both of them are important, but he writes these things to you that you may know from firsthand experience. That's what he's saying. Well, how do you do that? Well, the first thing you got to do is to know it in your head. It you can't, you can't know something through experience until you learn about it in your head. You've got to read about it in the Bible. And the Bible teaches that this is the progression, the progression of education.
And I went, I studied, I was a geologist before I did anything else, and I worked in the mines out west. And, we were of course, we're learning a lot of stuff out of the books. You know? Oh, a lot of stuff out of the books. And then we got to petrology, Roger, petrology. Petrology is not about studying petroleum. Petros is a word in the New Testament. It means rock. The word Peter is the English pronunciation of that word for rock. Peter. Well, we were out one time, went, locally. We a bunch of us guys. Back then, it was only guys. Girls weren't geologists. Just guys.
That's there was a real distinction. When I think about it, it's kinda odd. But we went out to a small coal mine that was nobody was using, and we crawled down in there underneath the ledge, and we got up under there. And and, Dewey Amis said, feel up under there. He said, you feel that what your those that fossil formation under there on that coal? He said, that means this, that, and the tether. I don't know what it was. He said at the time, don't remember. And I remember saying to him, how do you know? And Amos, who was an older man, the name of Dewey, he said, experience, winners.
Experience. I don't know it because I read it in a book. I know it because I been a geologist in a coal mine. And then I went to him at the end of my education and, I said, I wanna do a senior paper on the use of explosives and mining. He said, alright. He's I said, what I want from you, if you'll do it, doctor Amos, I want you to sit down and give me a lecture right here in your office. He said, okay. Come back so and so time, and I I'll talk to you. Came back, and he had a rock on his desk. I don't know what kind of rock it was. He had a pencil in his hand. The funny thing about Dewey was he was drunk all the time. Oh. Funny thing. You know, there are people who can stay drunk all the time, like, Roger Yeah. That that really hold down and do their job well, though. Yeah. I'm sure. It'll it'll bite them in the end. You know? It but he was one of those kinda guys that stayed drunk all the time, but he did a great job at what he did.
And, he did. And he he gets ahead of rock on his desk. I'm sitting there and I'm taking notes. And he said, okay, Winters. When you blast a rock with dynamite or explosives high explosives, it breaks three ways. Oh, okay. I said, okay. And I'm writing. He said, I said, what are the three ways? He said, the first way is called the first easiest way. The second way is called the second easiest way. And the third way is called the third easiest way. And he says the rock will break in that sequence. I said, that's all you call it is the first, second, and third? I said, isn't there some fancy name for it or something where I can look this stuff up? He said, no, you wanted a lecture from what I know by experience.
And this is what I didn't read this in the book. This is what I've learned by experience blasting rock. And so he and everything he said, I said, well, where can I can I read more about he said, no? There's no place to read about it. You're listening to me tell you what I've learned from experience. And so when I talk to people, I like it. But I can say, I'm not just telling you something I learned out of some book reading Saint Thomas Aquinas. I wanna be able to tell you this is my testimony. Testimony? Yeah. Because if you've experienced it, you're a competent witness at that point. This is my testimony.
These things are true. Read first John. The first step of having the experience, the joy that may be full fulfilled is you first gotta know it is true. You first gotta meet your wife, man, and say, yeah, I like her. I like she got pretty hair. I dream of Jeanie with a light brown hair, floating like a vapor on the soft summer air. You you're just taken in by her. You don't know her yet, but you know about her. You know what she looks like. And for some reason, there was an electricity there. Whoop. Now we're getting into a little bit of experience. Right, Roger? Electricity. You got that electricity. That spark starts sparking with the girl. Now you're starting into just a little bit electricity, a little bit of experience.
I've had that happen, of course. But then as time goes on, yeah, there comes a point where you really learn by experience more and more and more and more. You know, I had a, heard a fellow say, very famous fellow. I won't give you his name. But he said, he's gone now. He said, you know, the progression between a boy and a girl is the first thing you do, you look at each other. Now he'd studied this out. He was a shrink. You you you look at each other. And then at some point, you may touch her hand. Now there's nobody out there that's lived that is listening to say, well, yeah, I've I've had that, you know. The Beatles. The Beatles sang the song, I wanna hold your hand. Well, that was popular because there are a lot of young folks that had experienced that. Yep. The tingle the tingle that goes with it. Right? Yep. And then, then we had, that famous The Righteous Brothers. Remember that song, Roger? This is all part of human experience.
You've lost that love and feeling Oh, yeah. Of course. In your in your fingertips. I don't feel it anymore. You know, all that. Well, then the next thing happens is you touch the hand. And then the next thing is use your hand to touch the area about the head and shoulders, the neck, you know, the the cheek. And then there comes a point where you touch cheeks. You're at the soda fountain and you order a soda and you get twin straws and you're you got your cheeks together while you're drinking out of the straws. That's the progression. That's the way God made mankind to become more intimate slowly with a member of the opposite sex.
But it all moves from knowing about somebody to knowing somebody. So Paul the apostle says in first John, I write into you young, little babies because you you know who your father is. Dada. That's all you know. I write into you young men because you know intellectually things. You know doctrine. I write into you young men because you you know the word of God. That's intellectual knowledge. Is it important? You better believe it. That's the bottom line. But you know the word of God. And what's the result? He says, you are strong, and the word of God dwells in you, and you have overcome overcome the wicked one. Overcome the wicked one.
So you got babies. They know the father. Young men, no doctrine. Hey. That's important. That will enable you to use that word of God to knock flat the wicked one. One little word will fail him of the word of God. Jesus Christ did that himself. Get behind the me, Satan. Get out of here. The Bible doesn't say that. And then he quote the Bible to Satan. Then the third step is I write these things to you, old men old men, because you know the one who is from the beginning. You don't know about God. You now you know God. Well, that's where he's gonna take us, but there is a progression.
And he will take you from first grade to second grade to third grade once you accept what he gives you. Don't reject it. Accept it. There is no other way to have that joy, and the joy becomes greater the older and older and older you get. I have a friend who texted me this morning and had worked all her life. And, and she now there's been a shift in her life for a lot of reasons. And she's got the Bible, and she's listened to all of it and done so daily, listened to it being read out loud on a recording. And now she reads it every day. She wants to talk about it. All of her friends has changed. She was involved in a professional circle of professional women who got together once a week.
She she said I couldn't stand it anymore. They were empty, empty like blown bladders in that sense. It just wasn't where my head was. It wasn't that I hated them. It wasn't that they weren't kind. I just wasn't in their world anymore. God was taking me out of their world. It wasn't Christian. And now she goes to a bible study with some other gals with this Scottish immigrant. I who live nearby here, a lady who set up Bible studies, and she's been real consistent and they get together. And she said, Brent, I'm just telling you, I I'm experiencing things I've never experienced before. Is it real? No. She's not a charismatic talking in tongues and all that belong. No. No. No. No. No. She just the word of God is steady with her now, and all of the problems she's facing her in her life. Her and her husband have the normal problems of life, but they're getting a little intense. And now she's saying, what does God want us to do here? We're not out for vengeance.
We're out to just make sure that he gets what he wants. And if you didn't get to that point, friend, the word of God will take you there. If you're born from a go above, God will do that. The joy grows. I'm getting talking to her, Roger. You and I have said this. Roger, we've said, you know, getting old isn't all that bad. I I have aches and pains. I like my like my cousin said, rolling out of the bed in the morning at age 75 is a piece of cake. It's getting up off the floor that takes an hour. Well,
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but we laugh about it. But, boy, it's sure nice to know a lot of people. Life just changes as you get older. Things that were really important to you earlier just don't seem to okay. Well, whatever. And, it's a it's a it's
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a interesting change for sure. And I have discovered, Roger, that our audience is among purely young people here, but there's a mature element here that is really interested in the truth. And I'm glad that we have an opportunity just to talk about it. Well, Roger, how do I just quit talking for a while? Let me I'll tell you what. I know you've been, giving us some real valuable insights and information here today, all as always.
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And we're about thirty minutes or so, before the end of the program. Is there anyone in the audience that has any comments or questions for Brent or myself for what we've talked about or any of that?
[01:35:19] Unknown:
Good morning, Brent. Good morning, Roger. I think Hello, John. That I think hey, Brent. Did you say about thirty minutes in, did you say there are there is life on other planets?
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No. I didn't say that. I said I don't know of any evidence, that that's true, and so I don't give it any attention and just forget about it. If you can if somebody can show me in the Bible, that's good evidence, that that's absolutely unambiguously true, that'd be different. But I've never seen that. Yep.
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Right. Thank you.
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Yep. Okay. John, anyone else?
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You know, Roger, somebody I'm I'm I'm gonna put up the order. If somebody wants to talk for right now for right now, if you wanna talk and say something while I'm talking, you have permission to do that right now. But I'm gonna start talking here and just wait because I don't want it to be dead time. You know? That's no good. That's pretty unusual for this bunch not to have a question or comment. We've covered some pretty interesting stuff today.
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But if they don't, they don't. That's okay. You know? Oh, wait. We we got plenty to say. That's not a problem. No. No. No. Not a lack of things to say. No. No. No. Well,
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it's important.
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Let me ask you a couple of things. Did you happen to see any of Hegseth's speech to the generals, admirals? And do you know how much it said that that that cost them to bring all those guys a $100,000,000 from all over the world for the for that incident with the HEGCEF and the president. Do you happen to see that? No. What did he say? Well, it's very interesting. You know, I guess most times, the guy that runs Department of Defense is a civilian. Higgs says, is a general, relatively young guy, middle age. But he got up there and and paced the stage with no transponder and just said there's changes, and they start now.
Everybody's gonna have to take the height weight requirement twice a year. Everybody's gonna have to take this twice a year. You're gonna have to if you're overweight, no more red sequins high heels and, you know, all that kind of stuff. Uh-huh. So it was really very demonstrative and and very serious. Now Trump went over to Quantico to talk to him. And as he was walking out to the helicopter, somebody asked him about it. He says, I'm going over there to talk to these, admirals and generals and and important folk. And if there's somebody I don't like, I'm gonna fire them.
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Well, that's it prerogative.
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And, there it seems to be that with the Trump administration that since Charlie Kirk's assassination, there is, much more of a determination and a sense of urgency on some of these initiatives. It's It's what I'm seeing and feeling. Uh-huh. And that's good. I feel it. I feel it as well, you know. And,
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whatever anybody could say about Charlie Kirk, Providence, the god of all providence, has used it to fire people up. And Oh, that's for sure. God God will work it. God will work it and do what ought to be done. Yeah. There's At the bottom of it all what's that? I would no. At the bottom of it all, I'll add mine when you're finished. Oh, I was just gonna say at the bottom of it all is the effeminacy of the military forces. Oh, absolutely.
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That's what at the bottom of it all. Yeah. And the whole gender thing that's going on, all these trannies are the ones that are violent and, etcetera, etcetera, as you would say. And then heck, I had another one. I wanted to ask you to make a comment. It's it's it's escaped me now. Dadgum it. Anyway, that happened this week. That's pretty, pretty interesting. There's, Trump is starting to, I guess, declare Marshall ongoing in some of these lawless cities. The the neck the the the one they're moving into next, evidently, is Memphis at the behest of the governor of Tennessee.
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Why didn't why didn't the governor of Tennessee take care of it, I wonder?
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I don't know. I just know he requested I believe he requested Trump come in there and take care of it. They're in there. I did not know Stephen Miller was Jewish. Did you? Who's Stephen Miller? He's, the head of the bureaucrats there with Trump. Very, very forceful, very conservative, very demonstrative, very articulate, and, a a real go getter, you know, and he's Jewish evidently. So good on you. Okay? Yes. I'm a look him up while you're talking. Oh, you'll like him. He you'll really like him. He's, pretty straightforward. And he got up in front of Memphis police and said you got five different, agencies of government. He they they're giving everything to Memphis to stop the crime. Evidently, he's gotten very bad. Of course, he's warming up to Pritzker. I'm not sure if they've got that folks in Chicago or not, but I did hear somebody talking that knows Chicago and said there's some very safe places in Chicago.
All of this bad stuff is coming out of one section probably on the South Side Of Chicago, it'd be my guess. But, anyway, there's there's a lot of this stuff. The next city they're gonna have to go after is Portland. Portland has gotten totally outside the pale. They're arresting journalists and and letting the Antifa people go free. And one of the guy is a Sordor, Nick Sordor, youngish guy, gotten very into politics. He's got him a show on Saturdays now on Infowars. And, he got arrested by the Portland cops last night in in some kind of an altercation with an Antifa guy. Well, he got a personal phone call from Pam Bondi this morning evidently saying we're going after these people. So Trump is really starting to tighten the screws.
He has named Antifa as a terrorist organization, the the which gives them special power against whoever they're going after this label there. Uh-huh. So, man, you know, I remember in the early days of the patriot movement when I was still real green, and they would say make a tyrant act like a tyrant. And that's basically what they're doing with them. They're trying to expose him as that with all this crime and stuff. Now this is something else I wanna say. There's a gal on, Harrison yesterday for an hour, second hour, who has gotten into infiltrating all these left wing organizations.
And her and her group, they infiltrate all these online meetings. Even if they're they're in their area, they will go and infiltrate them.
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And she she,
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educates people on the language of the left so you know what they're talking about. You know? Uh-huh. Like, when they say democracy, well, their their definition of democracy is lack of opposition to communism. Okay? That that sort of thing.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah. And I just didn't oh, go ahead. Now what they're doing is they're following a formula that the Bolsheviks used in to, start the nineteen eighteen German revolution, and they use labor unions. So what they're doing is going to all these these revolutionaries, and they're getting them a job at, like, Amazon or some of the big companies. And then they go in there and they organize sales, and they're gonna try and get contracts. And all of the contracts will be set to expire on the exact same day, which is 05/01/2028. And then they will start a revolution from that point to try and take over the country, disrupt it, and see if they can do their deal. Anyway, that very important information, and, it just ex exactly the same way they did it in Germany in 1918.
Use the Bolsheviks, come in, get a foothold, get an organization, get them all riled up, and start the BS. Uh-huh. So that's being organized right now in The US. Roger. Okay. So I wanted to say this. Yeah. Samuel, did you happen to see that yesterday?
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No. But it's a slippery slope when you allow the federal government to use the military to do what the states are supposed to be doing. It they're never gonna relinquish that.
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Well, Samuel, I agree with this, so do all the experts. What else do you do?
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You let people
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defend themselves and not take them to court for shooting somebody that will be in be shot. Over in California and these other places, you they can't do that. So what else are you supposed to do?
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Well, can the Federal government
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could back prosecutors Well that would reinforce local prosecutors
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to allow people to defend themselves. Okay. You sure. You're You're gonna get that. People are getting gun insurance these days, Roger. Listen. That's great, but that's pipe dream stuff.
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K? No. It's not. What you're saying is pipe dream stuff.
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Trump can declare the ins Insurrection Act, which is what Bush did, or he can declare martial law and send people into those places. It's totally within his power,
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and it's totally logical to me. I understand what's gonna be police state, Roger. It's gonna be a police state. Yeah. What I don't get I don't get don't understand why a governor would do that. If he wants force to be asserted, the governor has power to assert the force that's needed. But it why does he call in the feds? I don't understand that. He doesn't work with them. Wait. If he were a Democrat like Newsom and he wouldn't do it, then I would say the feds have a responsibility.
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Absolutely a duty.
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But yeah. But, if the state if the state, is all for it, why would they call in the I don't get it. I I'm not sure. Well, you know, Samuel I think they're in league with each other. They wanna take over. That
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it's all the same people working together. Guard with the national guard, which is state, the the president can call up the National Guard. So can the governor. So can the sheriff. Okay? But whoever calls them up first has control of them.
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Oh, that's true. But that still doesn't that still doesn't explain why a governor wouldn't go ahead and call out the National Guard or anybody else he controls and then ask the president to do it. I don't understand that. Because Because they're so adversarial
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They're so adversarial against Trump. It doesn't matter if what he's saying and proposing is right all the way to to heaven's gate. They're gonna oppose it. Okay? Because
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this this gate Alright. Hold on.
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Well, finally, we've got them talking here, Brent. Okay. Hold on. Was that Robbie or was that Joan?
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Joan, the state answers to the feds. Thank you. Bye.
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Okay. Comment. Who else is yes. That's Joe right there. Hey, Joe. Morning.
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What about the posse comitatus that it's still enforced?
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Well and that's what, Stuart Rhodes was saying on Alex was what needs to do is Trump needs to call up the militia.
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That's who needs to handle branch Davidian whether the Posse Comitatus is in force.
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Okay. Posse Comitatus was overturned administratively. It was it was it was bookshelved administratively.
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You cannot do it administratively, Paul. It has to be a congressional act because the apostasy commutatus act was a congressional act. Yeah. It's a congressional act,
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but they sheltered administratively, and, the stupid people believed that they had the authority to do it. Therefore, they quit claiming protections under it.
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Honestly, it's all perception. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever they can get away with, they do, and that's what's seemed to be happening here. Yeah. There was a during the Haymarket riots in Chicago, the governor of Illinois at that time was a fellow named Altgeld. And, the president of The United States wanted in the worst way to send in federal troops to to shut it down, and so he tried to find cut legal cover. And he said, well, the Haymarket riots are threatening. Notice he didn't say, they were stopping. They were threatening the free movement of The US mail.
So he sent federal troops in, and they put down the Haymarket riot. Governor Altgeld sent him a letter protesting and his reasons why that he didn't have jurisdiction to do that. It's one of those kind of documents that should be read often, and I don't I don't support governor alt governor Altgeld in other ways. But in that particular point, he made the proper point for always for political reasons. You know? He try and look like he's somebody, but he didn't do anything about it. But it's analogous to we were talking yesterday, and we're teaching sheriff Darleaf and I are teaching a course on comparative law and talking about, ask him, what would you have done import in, Seattle, Washington when they had their summer of love and it turned into passing out weapons and murdering people? What would you have done if you were sheriff of that county?
He said I would have taken my deputies in and taken over the town. And if that happens in my little county, that happens within the city limits of a town here. That's what I would do because I have jurisdiction if the policeman and the I'm I trump them anyway. I just come in and take over. Well, if the governor of a state won't bring order to Memphis, Tennessee, then and refuses to do it, or the governor of California won't bring order to the Bay Area and people are in danger, it seems that the the president of The United States would have legal cover to come in and do something.
But for a governor such as the one in Tennessee to ask the president to come in and not do his duty, that's weird. I don't understand what he's thinking. Well, don't forget. You mentioned San Francisco as an example. We had,
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the head president of China came over there a couple years ago last year. You remember that? Yeah. You know, with all the feces on the ground and the needles and people sleeping on the sidewalk. Well, they had that cleaned up in two days.
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For sure. Totally.
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But that wouldn't have that wouldn't have, justified the president of The United States coming in there. And
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the Chinese guards were holding the American flag. They were doing what? Holding the American flag at wherever they were meeting.
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Oh, I see.
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Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
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Well, it kinda rubs me wrong, but whatever. Yeah. Samuel?
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Yeah. You know, I I understand that Memphis per capita is even got a higher murder rate than Chicago. I think so. That all these the thing that all these places have in common, like the Bay Area and Portland, is they got draconian gun control laws. So the only people that are killing people are the people with the guns, which are the people who need to be eliminated.
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Alright. Well, you're critical of this move by Trump. What you yeah. I believe that since it started a month ago, there has not been a murder in Washington, DC, and there used to be one or more daily. There hadn't been one murder since it started.
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Enforce the first amendment and the second amendment, and then you a lot of this goes away. Mhmm. That's what the federal government should be doing.
[01:51:32] Unknown:
Okay. So, anybody else wanna weigh in on this? Got something else to mention. We got about a couple minutes left. I will Well, there's Shane. I'll be darned. Go ahead, Shane.
[01:51:44] Unknown:
Yes. Why do you know why we're the first one off the gold standard and the last one to get back onto it?
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Hello?
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Shane, we were the first one off of the gold standard. You mean in 1971?
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Yes.
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And what was the second part of it?
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And possibly the last one to get off to get back onto it.
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Okay. So what what about that? What's that what's that question supposed to mean?
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Well, for example, why is the bricks consortium
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building up? Why is he, Well well, the bricks okay. Stop right there. Don't do a list. No. Well, they're building up because you got a system worldwide of unjust weights and measures. And they utilize that as a weapons system all over the world against countries. And quite frankly, a whole bunch, about three quarters of the world's population, is pretty damn sick of it. And so they started a system of honest weights and measures. And if Trump keeps pushing and we don't get the economy started, the new BRIC system is gonna be on us, and it will take the place of the world reserve currency chain. Does that answer your question?
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I was hoping to get one from Brent.
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Okay. Well, I doubt if Brent knows about this, but let me ask him. I might be wrong. Brent, what do you know about this, that you could answer Shane with this question, please? Well, I couldn't understand him, so I'm asking you to tell me what he said. Saying the difference between that we were the first to get off the gold standard and the last to go back on it. Okay. So what's the what's the question? Well, that's what I was trying to get out of Shane, but he just Oh, I see. He said he just wanted to ask you that. You don't have an answer for that?
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Well, that I don't I didn't hear a question. I just heard a statement that we were the first to get off or first to get off. Well, you wanted to know what your opinion of that was, I think. Oh, well, my opinion, we ought to be on the gold standard. That's easy. In other words, gold is legal tender. Let's use it. Let's use it more than we've ever used it before. Let's get off of paper money, computer money, computer entries.
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What's that? Coins, cyber coins? No. That's all that's
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all unconstitutional. That's clear.
[01:54:09] Unknown:
The constitution is clear as crystal. Well, you're seeing where the price of gold you're seeing what the spot price of gold is lately. Right?
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And what what happened? What is it? That's around 3,800.
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Just take a take a jump a rooney on top of that exponentially.
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Yeah. It was over 3,900 only this morning.
[01:54:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I did it. Okay. Thank you, Joe. You're, stand corrected. And, Robbie Noel used to say gold climbs a wall of worry. That's what they say on Wall Street. Gold climbs a wall of worry. Well, there's evidently a lot of worrying going on out there. Yeah. Yeah.
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Roger. Alright.
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We're right at the end of the hour. Somebody else got something?
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Yes. I'd like, rent to address the the mark and buying and selling, and I'm sure he knows about digital currency and, Biometrics ID. So I'm wondering if he has a bank account, and would he submit to a, a mark of some sort or a biometric to buy and sell? And if you can address that topic. Yeah.
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I won't I won't talk about my personal finances, any detail of them at all, so I'm not gonna answer that part of it. But I do like to and this is a personal application question. And the thing that ought to be talked about is the mark. What is the mark? Do we have the mark? Is it a tattoo?
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Is it a Social Security number? What is it? ID. It's digital ID. It's already been signed for 2028 for England. And guess who's behind it? Tony Blair and his son about ten years ago started the company that's gonna provide all that and service it. Surprise. Surprise. He's also gonna be the new mayor, if you will, or governor of Gaza if Trump's plan goes through, which I seriously don't expect, Humble's to to honor it. Oh, this all this stuff happening. This week, BB is back again. I think it's about the sixth time he's been over here. Everything they've got an ultimatum against Tomas, and they're trying to call it a a a a level peace plan. It's not level, and it's always skewed towards the damn Jews.
And, anyway, that's synopsis of some of the things that have gone on this week. It's been a Well, that's week.
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Well, let's talk a little bit about Revelation 13. I believe that's what you're talking about, isn't it? The, Mark there that's bespoken. I think that's what a sketch is referring to. Yeah. Well, let me read the passage. This is from the winterized translation of the Bible. And then some I've got notes here that I've put down my impressions and my understanding of it and what should be done. This is the same context as the number six six six and worshiping the image and all that. Well, Revelation 13, verse 16 says that and it does each and all men, the small men and the big men, the rich men and the beggars, the free men and the thralls, that is the slaves, so that it might give a brand mark, a brand mark upon their stalwart right hand or upon the forehead.
Do we need to wait for a minute?
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We can take a second to get through this outro, and we can hold this till the after show for sure. Brent, as always, we appreciate you and what you bring us. And it's a joy do do a radio show with you from my point of view. So thanks. We'll look for you next week. Common lawyer dot com, if you're just being introduced to Brent Winters, he's a good place to go find out a lot more about him and his, Sunday church service if you don't have a church home over there on Patriot Soapbox. And he's he's he's he works himself almost to death every day. So, anyway, we always appreciate you stopping by and sharing your time with us, Brent.
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And And we
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feel the same way about you, Roger. Yeah. Good to be with you. I wanna know you're okay. It's just a great relationship that started out of just I I well, I could say accident. I'm not sure that'd be correct. And, so many years ago, we don't even remember how long. I can't remember. But it's been a lot. Okay? It's been at least 10. I know. I think, I think at least 12, actually. Okay. And we've never, with a couple of rare exceptions, missed a show. So always a pleasure, Brent, and people can look forward to you being here on Fridays, I think. And hopefully, if we're all around here and they don't blow us up in a nuclear war, which I don't anticipate.
Anyway, we'll, hopefully be here tomorrow on Saturday. If you wanna follow Brent, he's on his own Saturday show over there on Patriot Soapbox. And if, if you come around, if you don't, we will see you somewhere soon, hopefully. So, we'll see you soon. Ciao.
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Yeah. If if they didn't listen to us, Roger, I'd probably say it anyway. So then Yeah. That's true. Good either way. I think you and I do these shows if there were anybody listening. We both enjoy it enough. Well, let me get to the mark, and this is important that so much is said about it. The mark that is bespoken in the seventeenth verse of the thirteenth chapter of Revelation, John the apostle writing the same fellow that wrote first John and and, the gospel of John. The mark, the Greek word here is karagma. It is neither a tattoo nor a brand burnt. I'm reading from the footnote.
A brand burnt. What's a brand burnt? A burnt brand on the skin. That's a stigma. In Greek, it's called stigma. To be stigmatized in the Greek tongue means somebody branded your hide. If you were if you were a cowboy out west, branding cattle, you would say, if you were Greek, well, we stigmatized the cow. I like the word brand. Another example of how simple English is. One syllable, stigma stigmatize, that's three. But it is a brand. That's a stigma, but this word isn't stigma. It's karugma. It's something it's not a tattoo, neither is it burnt, but is a thing fashioned and then attached upon, that's the preposition here, epi, upon the right hand or upon the forehead of the useful lackeys of the evil empire.
These are the Talmudist Babylonian device called the phylactery the phylactery. You see, in the Old Testament law, it talks about finding the law of God upon your hand and upon your forehead. And so the Jews take these little leather boxes, and they have ties on them. They tie the box. They tie the thing on their around their head so the box is on their forehead, and they tie it around their hand a certain way so the box is on the back of their hand. And inside the box is a little piece of paper that has this Bible verse on it. It says, bind them to your forehead and tie them to your hand.
Was that what it means? Well, let's keep going. The Greek word, phyllacterion, is an amulet. That's what they call it now, phylactery, but it's an amulet. That means it contains a little Hebrew writing on vellum or paper, and this is put in the little box that's on your forehead or tied to the back of your hand by hyper detailed ceremonial windings and knots of leather straps. This is Babylonian Judaism. This isn't in the Bible. The practice of using phylacteries with the ceremonial detail is found nowhere in the bible and is condemned as an addition to the word of God, drawing all attention to the sign that is the phylactery instead of that to which the sign points, which is the the Bible itself, the word of God written.
To receive the mark on the right hand or on the forehead, this former testament's old testament's reference to one's hands and forehead, Deuteronomy chapter eighteen eleven, signifies one's acceptance of god's law respecting god's grant of that land, that is his conditions of land tenancy. And this accord accords with the word of God, in that God is the landlord, the allodial landlord of the land and also the trust settlement of God as the settler of God's trust with his people. And the reference here is to one's hands and forehead signifies law, not God's law of the land or common law, but in this case, the evil empire's law of the city.
As it is said, different law, different God. Different God, different law. So the phyllactery here is a mark, a kurugma, which is neither a tattoo on the skin, a tattoo in Greek is called a stigmata, or a brand burnt into the skin, also called a stigma, but instead is a thing fashioned and then attached upon the right hand or upon the forehead. And the preposition here is upon, not in, not under, not into, but upon. It's referring to the Old Testament, Babylonian practice of the phylactery. But it's not the Old Testament. It's just the Babylonian practice of the phylactery.
That is not biblical. Obviously, what the Bible's talking about there in Deuteronomy chapter 11 is a symbol pointing to a reality. We are to have the word of God in our heads, and if we have it in our heads, then it will come out in our hands. That's the symbol of the phylactery, but it's not to be practiced. So he's using it here to say that it's evil, the mark of the beast. And, of course, I go through here in the in the, the notes, the things I'm talking about elaborate on the more. This is what we are to watch for. What are you to watch for? The book of Revelation the book of Revelation is about Babylonian Judaism, and he stresses that John the apostle stresses that in chapter two verse nine and chapter three verse nine when he says, woe unto them who say they are Israel who are not Israel.
He repeats it twice. That sets the tone for the book we call Revelation. And that word woe is the Hebrew word oi. It's written in Greek, but it's an attempt to approximate the pronunciation of the Hebrew word. Jesus Christ uses it. It's recorded in Greek in the gospel records when he says, woe unto you, scribes and the Phariseites, hupokratos, hypocrites. That's the Greek word for a stage actor. You're nothing but actors. You ain't real. Woah. Well, the word woe though is significant. It's used in the old testament as well. And what woe means is that you are cursed into oblivion without any opportunity to repent.
It's all over but to cry in. The historic fancy word for it in the history of God's people is apostasy. Apostasy. The Satan himself and the demons are apostates. They don't get a second chance. It's all over, but to cry him, they're gonna get thrown into the lake of fire. No second bite of the apple. When Jesus Christ says, woah, scribes and Pharisees, that is a pronouncement, god's pronouncement, god himself pronouncing terminal, irreversible doom. That's what it is. And when you see it anywhere in the Bible, just understand it's all over but to cry and for whoever is accursed.
The pope of Rome has cursed me that way. The pope of Rome has cursed anybody, officially has cursed anybody who does not agree with them. Specifically, they have cursed anybody who says that salvation is by trust alone and not keeping the law of God works. Anybody who says that, the pope of Rome has cursed calling such a person anathema. That's a Greek word that means you're cursed under a decree of irreversible doom. It's all over. That doesn't mean it's true in his case. But when Jesus Christ says it, it's true. And we have the record of what Jesus Christ has said that meets all the and over more than the evidentiary standards for reliable evidence.
So the book of Revelation is an Israelites, a blood Israelite named John the apostle, slap in the face of Babylonian Judaism, but that's not unusual. All of the New Testament, starting with the gospel records of what Jesus Christ said, is a slap in the face of the prototype of all false religion. All false religion is from Babylon. Babylonian Judaism, according to the Bible, is the prototype that's used. There wasn't something we call Romanism with a Christian label at that time. No. There was there wasn't even Islam, but those are the same, fundamentally the same.
Anyone who says that you can commend yourself to God by reaching a standard of behavior that pleases him, and you can commend yourself to him in a way that will coax him to snatch you from ever going to hell, that's a damnable lie. You can't. The only way you can avoid hell is by the new birth, and that's not something you do. That's something he does. That's why we say to quote Paul the apostle in the book of Ephesians, for by grace are ye saved, and that grace is not for of yourself. And by grace through faith by grace through faith, and that grace and faith are not of yourself, it is a gift of god. Something god puts in you, Not of works, just in case anybody didn't get it. He says not of works. Why? Well, if it was something you did, you could boast about it. So he adds, lest any man could boast. We can't boast about it because we didn't do it.
That's salvation. And John the apostle and all of the New Testament beginning with Jesus Christ himself is declaring declaring woe under those what that would promote Babylonian religion, law, and government. And the prototype of that in the New Testament is Judaism, and that's what that's what John is saying here in Revelation. So when he's talking about, he sets the stage with those statements in the second and third chapter. And then when he speaks about it, he's talking about a practice of Babylonian Judaism, phylacteries.
And he says those that wear them have received the mark of the beast. Now John understands this in terms of his understanding and his personal experience of living in Jewry. That's where he was. That's all there was. He understands it, and he knows that if you accept if you don't accept the that mark of the beast, in this case, he's using the example of phylacteries, You don't accept it, a practice of Babylonian Judaism, then you can either buy or sell, and you become thrown out of the economic system of this world, a deplorable condition.
The Amish people, or as some people say, the Amish do that today. If you disagree with the elders and about how many buttons to put on your pants or any other detail, how many safety pins, if they say safety pins instead of buttons. If you disagree or even ask, they'll throw you out, and they will not do business with you anymore. And that's really the way they do business. Yeah. They do business with each other. Now that's a common practice. The man who received his sight in, I believe, it was John chapter nine. Maybe it was eight, but I know I think it was nine.
It says that when they got ticked off at him because he didn't understand how Jesus Christ had did this, they threw him and his mother and father out of the synagogue. Out of the synagogue. Why? What does that mean? That means what it means here when John talks about it, you can neither buy nor sell in Israel anymore. You're not part of their club, and you could starve to death. You certainly are not going to prosper. Well, that's the way I understand the mark of the beast. No. I'm not gonna do that. I don't want to. I
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don't I haven't done it yet. Don't reckon. But, Roger, you wanna say something? I was gonna say I think that's kind of it fits the bill on what's going on in England that's supposed to be, overseen and implemented by Tony Blair. You're not gonna be able to buy or or go to store or anything else. Just what I've heard that I remember, it's too bad Paul's not on with us today. He ain't no more. But, anyway, that's looming on the horizon.
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The evil empire, has prototypes of this too all over the world constantly nonstop. I just talked to a listener on this show yesterday who went to court, Roger, and the police had stopped him. And and, one one of the his family members well, let's put it this way. It didn't have a driver's license. And instead of fighting it, they just okay. And the officer said, well, get in and get a driver's license. You're gonna drive. So they went to get a driver's license post haste, and the the person that was trying to get the license, they asked for the Social Security number.
I said, well, I don't have a Social Security number. Well, how old are you? Well, full grown person. Well, get a Social Security number. Well, why can't you give me a driver's license without me having to get a Social Security number? Correct. And they said, well, we can't do it. Well, then I won't get a driver's license and told the judge that. And the judge said, well, why why don't you want a Social Security number? Well, because I don't think it's proper, and it's a Christian conviction. And he kinda rolled his eyes, said, okay. Well, okay. Thank you very much. And that's here's the fine, and I hope I don't see you again.
But that the the evil empire always always does things in many many times, in many ways before the prophecy that is given, and it's all the same thing. There have been many people that noticed this in the bible. The a prophecy is there, and then they notice that it occurs in a small way that is not the complete fulfillment of the prophecy. But you see, if you don't take a social take a Social Security number, most people in America won't pay you. You certainly can't get a bank account. You certainly can't get a driver's license. You certainly can't get a student loan. You sir certainly can't join the armed forces of the United States. Or if you can't do business and do those kind of things, you can starve.
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Same thing. Right on the on the front of the card, it says not to be used for identification.
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Yeah. Yeah. So they they do it though. So these are precursors as the theologian would say, or some of them I've read. They say, well, these are, partial fulfillments of the total fulfillment and the final fulfillment of the prophecy. Consider, for example, god said to the to Israelites, get out of Egypt, get out of the law of the city. Before that, he had said to, Lot, get out of Sodom. Before and he did. And before that, get out of the city. And before that, he said to Abraham, get out of Ur. And Abraham did. He started looking for that place God had for him. But you see this throughout the Bible. Jesus Christ said, when you see certain things happening, flee from the cities.
Flee for the hills. Get out of the cities. That's a theme that's woven through starting with the first parts of Genesis, woven throughout the warp and the wolf and the text and the context of the Bible. Get out. These are and then the prophecy in the end, in the book of Revelation, here where we are, it says that Jesus Christ will destroy every city on the faces of the earth. Well, he's been saying that all along. Roger, we know too. The evil empire always says what they're gonna do before they do it. They have to. There's some kind of a,
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some some kind it makes their actions more powerful, they think, or whatever. There's some form of requirement for them to do that. Yeah.
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So it's not and the reason for that is, I think it's clear, with all of these partial fulfillments coming along through history and then in in our own lifetime, god's saying, look. I'm warning you, warning you, warning you, warning you. And so when it's all said and done and the hammer drops, the hammer drops, and for those of you that are not in America, that means the hammer on the pistol or the rifle that ignites the firing train that fires the bullet and brings the destruction. When the hammer drops, nobody would be able to say, I didn't know. I didn't get the word. There was no due process here. You can't bring a bring a negative effect on me for something that I did or didn't do that I didn't know about, and God's saying no.
I am persnickety. I observe due process with deft precision. You cannot say that I'm unjust. You know better. I have given you warning. I have sent you men to teach you. I have sent you the Bible. I have sent you warnings in history of first partial fulfillments of what I said I'm gonna do. Over and over and over, I sent you the flood of Noah. I sent you the tsunami. I sent you the hurricanes. I sent you the earthquakes to show you what power I have. Warnings. You could couple those with the Bible. You ought to know life is short. Get your account straight and quit playing games. So when I when I draw the bead and drop the hammer, no. It's just. It's always just with God. And not only is it just with God, he is careful to make sure it looks that way.
That's important too. It's not for us mere mortals, it's not enough that he's just. He knows that we're blind and stupid and slow, and so he goes to great lengths to warn us over and over and over. So there's no excuse when the hammer drops. Yep. Well So get your account straight, folk. Both of them. Ready yet, you don't have much time. I'm a tell you that right now. You don't know. Jesus Christ said you're trying to you're trying one more thing. You're trying to fill your barns. You're working hard. You're seeking wealth. And don't you stop to consider that you could be gone tonight, and then it's too late. Yep. Somebody said something to Roger. Hey. It was Larry. Larry, was that you?
[02:20:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd just like to point out, that the phrase mark of the beast is not in the Bible, and that comes from the the concept comes from Revelation 13 verses 15 through 18. And in those verses, you'll see the phrase image of the beast, name of the beast, number of the beast, and number of his name, but you will not see mark of the beast. You will see the word mark. And another thing is, in the King James version, Brent said that the mark is is on, the preposition is on, but the King James verse version uses in the right hand or forehead. He uses the preposition in.
[02:21:20] Unknown:
That's thank you for saying that, Larry. I I didn't. I can't say it all, but it's important you fill that in. Be careful. The prepositions are what govern relationships of everything. And without them, we don't even know. But in this case, that's a critical word. But anybody else have a comment? Mhmm. I don't think so. Hi, Britt.
[02:21:45] Unknown:
Yeah. How are you? What was that what was that scripture verse you said in the beginning right after you were responding to sketch? You said, all those who say they are Israel and are not remember that? Revelation
[02:22:04] Unknown:
Revelation two nine and Revelation
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three nine. Oh, that one.
[02:22:11] Unknown:
Okay. So deal with that. It says
[02:22:15] Unknown:
it says those who say they are Israel. They it doesn't say those who say they are Jews.
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That's
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right. It says Israel.
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Yeah. Don't trust me. Look it up. Look it up. Yeah. I have. Yeah.
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Okay. Good. Good, y'all. Good, y'all.
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Alright. Brent's a busy man. He spent two hours with us in twenty something minutes now. Somebody have a question or comment? Once, twice. Brent, we'll see you next week, buddy. K. Thank you. See you. Go off and get get somebody a remedy.
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Uh-huh.
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I will. Thanks. I'll see you, man. Be careful. Bye. Thank you, Brent. Bye bye. Well, what a guy. Thank you. Appreciate it. What a guy. So fortunate to have that relationship with him and what we have here on Fridays and what he brings and the different things that we've been taught by Brent. So we really thank him. Okay. Anybody else got something for me?
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Yes. I tomorrow. I I hope you get the chance to listen to, Paul English's show yesterday. He went over, Michael Untenberger's, money system.
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Oh, Getty in Austria? Uh-huh.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
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Well, Paul's another one. Just the the he's like y'all, all y'all. It's just this a God thing. You know? The people that are attracted to this generally have some sort of a spiritual gene in the in the game and, whether they know it or not, actually. So, anyway, it's just a blessing. It's a blessing for me here in the latter part of my life. I can tell you that. It's extremely rewarding. It's very fulfilling, and I just love all of you. K? And I love the new people that we either have got sniffing around or that will come around in the future and take special care with those people. And, we'll talk about yesterday's show tomorrow a bit. Okay?
So, anyway, I'll see y'all, on Saturday morning. Ciao.
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Thank you, Walter.
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And I put a link in the chat, I think, for Bill Gates's, who wants he wants to put a a tattoo on you, and it's also it's, it's on top and it's inside. So that covers the mark, I think, or not the mark, but the b system. Yeah. Britain was trying to roll this out in the name of migration control. So that's why they're kind of all to talk about immigration. All is probably a end around or maybe this was the reason why they did all that flooding to cause the reaction, and now they're gonna create the solution, digital tracking. Problem, reaction, solution.
Same thing, Trump mentioned.
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Is that for, identification?
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Is what identification? Bill Gates' tattoo?
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Excuse me. Yes. The mark of a beast or the the ID, the marker would be the I don't know. The the the one in rolling it out in Britain of the, identification
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team.
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I think that's just biometrics at this point, but, you know, it's the tiptoe towards totalitarianism.
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Agree.
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Thanks, John. See you later. Bye.
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Yep. I'll, sing that to tiny Tim's, voice. Tiptoe to totalitarianism
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with
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me. I think we should get a ukulele and using, Brett. That'd be perfect.
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We don't need to drive the audience away. Well, I finished my appointment with I finished my appointment with the VA, toenail doctor. I got a pedicure from an MD.
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I hope there was a good conversation.
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It was only about ten minutes. I'm going over to Botaf right now to grab a couple of level four plates for a $100. Brand new. Only thing wrong is the warranty's out, but I don't care. As of last night, they had a 187, pair of them. I don't figure they ran out already.
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Question that I don't know if anybody ever asked Brent, being that he did the winterized version and everything, being that the Bible is a law book. Could you use the Lord's prayer three times as an ambassador of Christ in any of these lower courts that are not obviously the high court of heaven. Is it that simple?
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Please remember to ask Brent that question next Friday, George. Thank you.
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In my listening to doctor Paul Felter, in his opinion, the Lord's prayer is a prayer to a Hebrew of a Hebrew for the kingdom which they were promised on earth, and not the prayer of that a Gentile would do. Because our our kingdom is spiritual, not not earthly.
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Isn't the earthly heavenly if God is God?
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Well, according to Felter, before the Hebrews rejected Christ completely at the killing of, Stephen or Stephen, That was their real rejection. And that's when, Jesus gave Paul the ministry to the Gentiles instead of the, Israelites, like using that word Jew
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or Hebrews,
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And the kingdom promise is different. There's the heavenly, and then there's the earthly. And the way he looks at it, they're divided, But that prayer was for the earthly kingdom, and there's certain words that that are used in the Bible. I think it's what's the phrase? Son of man. Is used, I think, 80 sometimes in the New Testament by the by Jesus and by his disciples that are except Paul. Paul never uses it because he's making a difference between the earthly promise and the heavenly promise that he was teaching. Just FYI, you know, I'm certainly not clear on it myself. I mean, lately, I've been coming into so much new stuff that, you know, I could have interrupted or got into the conversation with Brent today about what and who was responsible for the canon of the Bible.
Well, I don't really think it's wise to let that be up to an organization like the Catholic church, for sure. And according to this other group that I'm listening to, that would have been decided by the high priests and his scribes, not the Catholic Church, and that would have been decided by God's will. They make the argument that the Qumran community, which we call the Qumran, sort of a an Islamic name for the area that we have sort of today, but it was called other things in the past that the Dead Sea Scrolls are from. That those are actually the writings of the high priest or the sons of Zadok, which would have been the line that came down from Solomon that was in charge of keeping the law and everything in those Dead Sea Scrolls is what should probably be canon.
It's an interesting view because they, when the Hasmonean dynasty came into power was about a hundred and sixty, seventy BC. They overthrew the priesthood. They killed Onias which was of the line of Zadok, the true high priest, and they put in a king and a high priest occupying both places which was not lawful. And this is the same people Jesus is talking to a hundred and sixty year years later as being phonies, as well as would have been Gamil who taught Saul. He was a Pharisee. The group exiled and went to Qumran and kept the writing sacred there supposedly from this new information I'm getting.
So those books like Jubilees and first Enoch, etcetera, would have been because they're found there, their argument is these would have been canon. Just just throwing it out there. A lot of it makes sense. And they tried to make the people at Qumran the Essenes, and that's the Essenes were also a cult that wasn't following things like John the Baptist was and the writings that were in Qumran, found in Qumran. And you got to be careful that you don't get writings outside of that area. Like, there's 11 caves in Qumran. If you get writings outside of that area, then you're starting to get other contaminations in which probably aren't right.
But,
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anyway,
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the bible says that in the end times, a lot of knowledge will be be found, and, maybe this is part of it. I
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I don't
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know.
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Samuel. Yeah. Yeah. I challenge you, when you're reading in the bible, one of the things I've learned is whenever you see that phrase, the end times, to me, that's the end times of Israel, and that all occurred back in seventy AD. So the end days or the end times, that only had to do with Israel. That does not have to do with the Gentiles. That does not have to do with us living in this day and age. It's all behind us. Another thing is I do agree with you, about the, the the Jews or Israel, they were promised a physical kingdom back back when they back in Jesus's day.
And so one of the conditions to that old covenant system was they had to be obedient to the law and God himself. And because they failed that test, then they were not given the promise of a physical kingdom. And then the gospel went out to the Gentiles, and it's all about a spiritual kingdom under the new covenant. We're under a new covenant. The old covenant was done away because it was a conditional covenant. The new covenant is a is an unconditional covenant, and it's has to do with Abraham and his seed, and that seed is Christ. And anyone that believes the gospel, they are in Christ, and they are a part of that seed, and it's all about a spiritual kingdom.
The Lord is sitting at the right hand of God, which even Stephen testified to. You know, he saw the Lord Jesus Christ stand up when he was right right before he was going to be stoned to death, and, and then he, of course, sat down. And, so the kingdom was offered the physical kingdom was offered to to the to Israel at that time, and I believe that was the third time. So the physical kingdom was offered under Jesus Christ because they're still under that old covenant. They were still under the law. And then the second time it was offered was under Peter in the book of in the early chapters of the book of Acts after Jesus is Jesus Christ's resurrection, and the third time was under Stephen. They were once again offered the the king the physical kingdom, but they rejected it, and they stoned Stephen, and that's when you see everything progressing to the Gentiles.
And, basically, the lord was done with Israel, that old testament Israel. They they don't exist anymore. What you have instead in our day and age is what's known as the Israel of God. That's what a New Testament believer is considered to be, you know, in in these modern times. So, anyway, my 2¢.
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Yeah. Well, thank you, Laird. What the argument is, though, is that they rejected not the law, which obviously they weren't practicing very well because Jesus condemned the Pharisees. And like I said, that goes back a hundred and fifty, sixty, seventy years prior to them being in power through the Hasmoneans, but the the argument is that you've gotta read Daniel and Revelations as and put those two together because they're talking about the same thing. And that in those seventy weeks, there's a week missing. And that's those seven years of tribulation where, you know, they're going to have that last opportunity, but they'll be also be under law according to Felter. So I, you know, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm not not sure about it all myself because it's relatively new stuff to me.
So so he's feeling that the church gets raptured out into heaven, and then the tribulation starts. And if he's right about that, they're not going to be, we're not going to see the temple built here on earth when we're around. If we are and we see it that happening, and right now they're talking about in the Middle East that if if they're gonna go all out and actually try to nuke Iran, they may also blow up the Muslim's temple so that they can put their temple there as part of their, you know, absolute despotic nature of what they're doing to the Palestinians and everything else and everybody around them, it just wouldn't surprise me that they'd go ahead and blow that temple up to get rid of it so they can build their mosque up there or their temple up there.
It's all very interesting. It's, you know, a lot of these people have really good points and, and if and we get even more depths of the end times if you go into these books that are not considered canon, as well,
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so I don't know.
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I mean a lot of these older books that aren't canon were cited in the New Testament by the apostles as well. So they obviously knew about them and considered them of some value, but you got to remember there's a hundred and sixty, seventy years of infection in this priesthood because they killed off the first thing that the Hasmoneans did is install their own king and priest as one person, which is against the law, and killed the high priest which had the lineage back to Solomon, the sons of Zadok. So this just shows you that by the time Christ gets there one hundred and seventy years later, this is what he's talking to.
They don't even have the law according to what some people are saying, because those books that were in Qumran, this was that exiled group that would have been the line of the sons of Zadok, which is where they say also John the Baptist is coming from, and they put put him in Qumran. Like all the Bible accounts say he was baptizing in the Jordan where one says that. John, who probably knew him best, says John he gives an exact a more exact location. He was baptizing in Bethabara beyond Jordan. Well, that's not in the river. Like, the others are citing or getting it close to could have been if they said just Jordan and then not the Jordan River, it could have meant the valley, the whole valley.
If you take what John is saying, this Bethabara is very, very close, or if not the same place as Qumran. So John the Baptist and the linking to Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls are very high possibility from what I could research so far.
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So you brought up a good point. So Daniel and Revelation go hand in hand. Daniel is known as the book of Revelation of the Old Testament. And, the thing I I would like people to focus on is that that is the use of the word beast. That represents that's symbolic of empires. Daniel lists the world empires in sequential order, and Revelation does the same thing in reverse sequential order. So, you know, these people that say that there's going to be a beast in the latter days, that that's not even what that word is talking about. It represents a world empire.
In the book of Revelation, when you see that word beast, that's talking about an empire, and to me, all of that is in the past. I'm no I'm no longer a futurist. The last days were the last days of Israel. You know, even in the book of Hebrews, it says in the last days, the Lord has sent us his son. And so, you know, all of that is behind us. Just something to think about.
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That would differ there. I think there's a lot of unfulfilled things, including those those seven years missing from Daniel. Those aren't those prophecies are not fulfilled. That's gonna happen in tribulation which is coming.
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Well,
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if you did back to my original statement, the judge is
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the is serving under another kingdom,
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or I should say not serving under another kingdom, but is under the ultimate kingdom, it's really a matter of giving to Caesar what a Caesar's. Right? And that our father, I think, concentrates that on earth as it is in heaven. So you're just returning whatever interest they have, you know, if they want the Social Security number, if they want the birth certificate, if that's theirs, you return that to them. You don't you don't you have no evidence that it, you know, identifies you, the the one using it, you know, if you will. And so it's a there's different uses of the use of frauds. It's not a turn. You know, state the interest of presumptions.
But it's all one kingdom, including Satan. Look at Job is under God. You know? Again, it's a the, you know, last days. I'm just talking about the long Bible.
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Yeah. I see, Satan is sort of like God's yeast. If there's evil in you, he might test you with Satan to see if it grows. But in the case of Job, he knew that that wasn't there, and he said go for it.
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Yeah.
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And I'll yeah. I'm out of the phone. I'll read something. I gotta head back to the to the shop and then to the job, and I'll grab the phone because, there was an interpretation which, you know, I don't know if it's accurate or not, but restating the declaration of independence versus, two hundred fifty years next year. Right? So, but there's something about meeting with the 800 generals and stuff that one one man's interpretation was, which I thought was was it of interest. I don't know how how true it is. But
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Well, I I listened to, Larry Johnson and colonel Larry John or Larry Johnson and colonel Wilkinson on that 800 guys sitting there. And, basically, their summation of what was going on is Peg Theft and Trump were telling them, you're gonna help us take over The United States, and if you don't like it, please. And nobody left.
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Yeah. This has to do with the what the what the martial law would you know, is really about. And, basically, they tell them the Vatican to go count sans. So it's pretty interesting, but I involve those 800 judges that the or, generals benefit by a restore But I this could all be smoke screen stuff to, you know, again, the same reason they're using immigration for the digital ID. They'll be like, oh, we're gonna give you your freedom. But either way, here's that digital ID that everybody will need. You know? Which in a sense, we already have because if you've got a credit card or you've got a bank account, you're already kinda in the digitized monetary world. Right?
So
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Wilkinson said that guys like Stockwell, I think he was an admiral. He was one of those guys. He said if he would have been in the audience listening to that speech from Heg says, he would have got up and told them he's a piece of shit or a bag of shit and left.
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His name was Stockwell?
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Stockdale. He was one of the highest decker he he got shot down in, Vietnam and was held captive for, I think, seven years.
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Oh, he was, Ross Bros. Right?
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Yes. Same guy. So you would have said he was a piece of shit? Is that what Yeah. So if he was If he was in that audience with those generals, he would have stood up, called him a piece of shit, and left.
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He he said, Het Seth was a pile of poop. Right? He he was right. Right?
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Well, what does this guy know? You know? To have that position.
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He's that right.
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He he couldn't he was given a paper on how to fix the military, and he couldn't even get that right. He couldn't even read it right. I mean, that's how pathetic he is. Or, you know, he changed it.
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But
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Yeah. We're in trouble. It's the bottom line. And these people are gonna start taking cities over, and once they do that kind of crap, it never goes away.
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The only thing except it said that I know of is that the military cannot wear dresses in high heels. Some military men.
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And he doesn't like them fat either.
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Yeah. Right. Okay.
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Like, that's that's the biggest problem with our our military. It's like you know, it guess it's visual, but, we we sure got a bunch of problems. I mean, we've got the most expensive in the weapons in the world that don't protect us from what our enemies have. That's the bottom line. Yet we're still running around the world telling everybody what to do, and the world is done with that. We need to change. It's we're massing a force also down in Venezuela. Wilkins says and and and, Larry Johnson, that's extremely expensive.
They're gonna use it. Gonna try to take out that country's leadership with it. They're not just gonna let it and we're doing the same thing we did before the we bombed Iran the last time. We're we're building up weapons, fuel, and stuff at our air force bases over in The Middle East. We're going into our cities. We're messing with the Russians in Ukraine. We don't have the manpower to do any one of those jobs properly. So the guess is by these military experts is they're going to use technical nuclear weapons. And then where does that put us?
Not looking good.
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A lot of people say there are no nukes.
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Yeah. I don't agree with that either. There's old World War footage, Joan, that was kept out of the public eye for about fifteen, twenty years of the devastation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that military film crews took. And of all the people suffering from radiation effects, etcetera. So that wasn't just a high explosive. It was highly radiative. And probably one of the reasons those people did so well even under the circumstances is their tremendous seafood diet, which had most of their system filled with iodine. But, the blast killed a certain amount, but within weeks, and this old footage shows these people's conditions.
And it's horrific.
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Yeah. Is it the one where they look like their face had burn spots on their face and arms? Is that big?
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Yeah. A lot of them a lot of them were skinless. Large parts of their body or their their clothes was fused into their flesh.
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Yeah. Awful stuff.
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That footage was hidden by our government for, I think, fifteen, twenty years before it finally got out.
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Samuel, do you think Gaylor Windsor is a fraud?
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I don't know who that is.
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He's the guy who worked at a nuclear plant under, safety, and he went on television, I think, numerous times and drank radioactive pools
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that would cool down the nuclear facility. He'd go swimming in it also according to the Oh, yeah. I remember that guy. He used to put plutonium in in two different pockets as to as long as they didn't come together, he was okay. Right? That guy.
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Is he still still alive?
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I believe he's passed, but I don't think I forget if he died of cancer or old age. I'd I'd have to look it up. But I don't think even if it was cancer, I don't think it had anything to do with him drinking the radioactive water, allegedly radioactive, or sitting there eating pieces of plutonium and and whatnot and surviving it, tell the tell the tales. But, basically, he was just trying to say, well, there's fear mongering going on, and I'm here to set the set it straight in regards to his field of study, which was nuclear related stuff. And then, obviously, he was a high level in the, nuclear radiation field of study, I believe.
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Samuel, here's another fact. Despite initial fears that Hiroshima would be uninhabitable for decades, today, there is no more dangerous residual radiation from the nineteen forty five atomic bomb. The radiation levels in Hiroshima are now comparable in the natural background radiation or to the natural background radiation found in any other city on Earth.
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And that's Japan.
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Yeah. That's Japan. People are living there. There's no more deadly effects of any alleged radiation in that area.
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Yeah. Japan is, economically doing horrible. I don't know. Man made.
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Someone's been lying. I mean, been one.
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The name is spelled g A L E N W I N S O R. Look into it.
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Samuel, I was watching a video on YouTube about fifteen years ago, and they were trying to determine well, the the narrator of this video did not believe that nuclear bombs exist. And he had actual footage of these testing sites that were several miles away from each other, and what they were doing is they were stacking up, crates of dynamite, enough to be the equivalent of whatever megaton bomb they were allegedly, detonating at another site age, and, of course, everybody would gather around, and they would they would watch this, you know, watch this, explosion occur, you know, all these scientists and and, you know, bystanders or whatever bystanders or whatever.
And what they were telling the people on at the other site that both sites, they were stacking dynamite. But at the one site, they were telling the people, well, there's gonna be another explosion. And when you see that explosion, that's the actual nuclear bomb deindetonated. And what we've what we've done here is we've stacked crates of dynamite so that we can make a comparison to find out, you know, how how powerful that blast is gonna be. And what they're doing is vice versa at the others at the, other site, they were telling the people the same thing. And so both sites were just sites that had, crates of dynamite that were stacked up enough to create the illusion that a nuclear bomb was being detonated.
And, so there's a the same person that put this video together, and I can't seem to find it anymore on YouTube, was saying that what he believes is Hiroshima and Nakasaki were carpet bombed, and he did not believe in nuclear bombs, that they did not exist. So all these scares that went on during the cold war days between America and Russia, it was just all a hoax to create fear and keep people in control. So, anyway
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Well, unfortunately, I think we're about to find out. And how do you get that high explosive in in one plane? You know? I mean, that's impossible. So it woulda had to have been a carpet bombing, but, you know, this is, yeah, you've you've got all this footage to look at from our war guy, and they he gathered up the color film was just coming out. He gathered up all he could get from the military when he did this, filming. And, they almost didn't get the film out of there because parts of the government already knew what they were up to and wanted to suppress it. But, it shows all of these places where the concrete is burned by a shadow of a person. And and if there's a ladder on the side of a tank, the image of the ladder is burnt into the or it's not burnt. Everything around it's burnt, so there's the it's like a negative. But it you know, I mean, watch that stuff and tell me that these things don't exist. These when they detonate these things too, there's also seismic records of what's going on.
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Anyway,
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we got lots of ways of killing people, and I just got a thing from and Murr, probably you got it too from Rick Wilds yesterday. It says that the Kremlin believes and is being advised that the West has a pathogen that is capable of killing ninety percent of the population and that they're up to being using that. So
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A lot of it is predictive programming, though. They, they film stuff and then they
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kinda produce the news is produced. You know? And,
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I don't know how far back it goes. But
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So why is the press it for fifteen, twenty years, though?
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Well, no. They they show it in the movies a lot of times, and then they come up and then they produce the news later. So like that. Yeah. You can't trust really anything they do or tell us. That's there's no doubt about that. Right? I would say, yeah, I would say auto hoax pretty much everything until proven otherwise, including the squib of Kennedy. You know?
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So, I mean,
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we know the Zapruder film came out afterwards. Right? And everybody's talking about where the gold goes. Now the same thing with Kirk, where the gold go. It's Matthew Gold. He's a man of steel.
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There's a bulletin board up here. Basically, I can And supposedly, the frames
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and supposedly, George's frame is missing. Right? So
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. You can use the Wayback Machine to do, recent research on Google.
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Hey, ma. Hey, ma. Hey, Joan.
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That word you spelled that starts with a g, it does that have to do with, nuclear bombs?
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It was a man they were talking about. It's in the chat. It's in both of them. Okay. D a l e n is his first name. W I n s o r is his last name.
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Okay. Thank you.
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One thing's for certain, Jesus' message was about love, and I don't see this country giving out love to the rest of the world for a long, long time.
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Well, USA stands for under Satan's authority. You know?
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Certainly looks like it, doesn't it?
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In his little imps.
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Did you read that article from TrueNews yesterday?
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Yes. I did.
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That's something wrong about that one.
[03:11:31] Unknown:
Yeah. What was the subject matter through the news article? Thank you.
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Some of the highest advisers to Putin are telling them that the West has a pathogen that is designed to kill ninety percent of the world's population.
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Oh, yeah. Right. You mentioned that a minute ago. Thank you.
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And if that's true, that means they've got an antidote because otherwise, they're gonna be gone too. That would be too much of a crapshoot for them. Right?
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Well, the colon is a virus, and viruses don't exist.
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I heard pathogens, so I don't know.
[03:12:21] Unknown:
I remember pathogen. The article open in front of me. Kavilovicic alleged that western elites are preparing to unleash a virus with a ninety percent kill rate, killing off most of humanity. The The survivors, he claimed, would not be ordinary people, but a tiny global elite served by robots and advanced technology ruling over the populated planet. They're all in on it.
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Oh, god. They wish
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I did come across a article about, that the negotiations that are under the radar between The US and Russia were really about that pathogen that you're talking about. Don't know if it's occurred or not, but there was an article saying that's that's what the real negotiation it's not about Ukraine. It's about the pathogen. Yield.
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I also heard those those conversations could have been about making a deal with Russia if they don't intervene when we attack Iran.
[03:13:51] Unknown:
So do you'll see where, there was no color guard for the first time ever on the twenty ninth when, Mila Koski went to the White House, and he was, forced to, just pictures of Trump with they're sitting in front of the fireplace like usual. And, Phoebe is reading a letter over the phone. The phone is on Trump's lap stretched across, you know, the curly q coil there. And he's apologizing to Qatar for bombing them.
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Trump is apologizing?
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Nope. Billy Kelsky. BB Netanyahu. He's the one that bombed them. I already revealed that.
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Yeah. Thank you. There's a US base
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right there, just west of there, big US base.
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Who haven't they bombed? The list is getting longer and longer.
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Well, the Iranians and I have nice article, you know, they said they weren't you know, found that their what defenses weren't good and everything that they had, but, they said they ended up, you know, that the Israelis are 16 or more, pilots short now. I guess I need to use more drones.
[03:15:30] Unknown:
Hey, Murph.
[03:15:33] Unknown:
Yes, sir?
[03:15:34] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Larry. My, sister, she's she's my older sister. She lives in Pennsylvania, and she had a really good close friend, years ago. And they're always talking about, you know, all all the things that we kinda discussed about, you know, world events and and, how things affect us. And, this, good friend of hers, she she's deceased. She died, oh, I I would say about fifteen years ago, But she said she went to school with Netanyahu.
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He went to school in, like, near Rittenhouse Square there in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. And, Yeah. That's that's where my family's
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of that area.
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Yeah. And Michael Jones went to school not far from there too. Yeah. Mhmm.
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Yeah. She's, my sister's friend is who got her interested in in, you know, all of the, conspiracy theories, which are not really theories. A lot of them are are facts. And, one of the things that that helped get my sister involved in thinking about these issues is, when when her friend started to talk to her about the, the Skull and Bone Society that, that Bush and Carrie were a part of, back in the day. You know? They're just brothers running against it. They they create this this illusion that they're against each other, left right thing, when really they're both brothers in a society. And, you know, there's all kinds of rituals they have to perform.
I think one of them involves you have to lie naked in a casket. You have to commit I don't know how far they go, but, you know, homosexual type activities with with fellow members, and they kinda get all this stuff on you, I guess, and and evidence in case, you know, you you ever deviate from from, you know, your your associated role in the in the world as far as the stage that you're supposed to, you know, procure. And, if you deviate from that and you start becoming a truther, you know, they'll take you out or they'll they'll have all kinds of, you know, evidence to, convict you.
So very interesting.
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Do you ever hear Jessie Sabodar? You can go to timothy charles holmesat dot com. All her affidavits are there. And she has some other sites as well, but she was being groomed. See, they groomed these children. They have the hierarchy children. And, they're tortured and everything too, but they're kept alive because they're put in these places of power in their bloodlines. Sabodar is I have several bloodlines, apparently. But, she learned of Jesus when she was really young too, and so she broke out of it. But she was being raised to be the head position of the mothers of darkness, the drone physician. And, apparently, they haven't filled that position since she's been gone. And, you know, and they did a bunch of stuff to her too. And Elon Musk, you can see about the ritual of blasphemy that they do at the Biltmore.
And, it it's just all this stuff they groomed. And so I'm sure these people are all groomed from an early age. I mean, they really tortured w, and it was the plan to kill him on 09/11. You know? His father was thought he would assume the dictatorship, right, of the country and the world, basically. But that one plane that they were using for excuses because it wasn't planes that were doing the stuff, but, was headed for the capital that was chock full of congress critters that day, and it didn't happen. Wasn't in the Lord's timing.
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Yesterday, Parallel Construction, I think yesterday came up, and that's how they can, design a case to take you down. If you don't take the briefcase and they can't convict you, well, then they'll give you the bullet.
[03:20:10] Unknown:
Yeah. There's there's stories of how they, you know, give them a child, a gun, and a camera and, so they can blackmail themselves. And some of these children, women in particular, that have, come through, but they're not the only ones. But the men very often are, like, stuck in homosexuality, if they survive. But, one of these was well, more than one, actually. But they didn't know their real names when they bring these people in to, you know, have sex with them. And, they did it multiple times. And so, she said, as it turns out, Bernie Sanders was very kind and gentle to the girls or whatever.
Of course, he wrote he wrote, you know, erotic novels and stuff about his like, his wife was imagining having three men rape her when they were having sex. I mean, they're just so thick. You know? But, anyway, one congressman and his wife, they always have to have the wife involved too. So, you know, they're in misery and blackmailed, and they know what's going on. And so they had the congressman and his wife, and they were there. And they were supposed to go in and do this stuff, and he refused. Didn't say who this congressman was. So they shot him dead right there and dragged the wife off to do whatever and use her in some position, you know, because then they can sheep dip them, you know, which is basically, reconstruct their minds so they can use them in another position or several other positions.
And then they're never held to account for it. You know? So yeah. There's a whole underground army, and all of these secret societies are related. They're tied together even though the members don't know it, most of them. But, and it's all part of this, Luciferian Brotherhood or Illuminati, whatever name you wanna put on it, but it's satanic. And, I mean, she was talking about the underground long before what Catherine Austin Fitts is talking about, the, extinction level event. And and all that's true too. You know? They they do have these places prepared, and and, and they do these rituals there. I mean, mass sacrifices and stuff like you hear about Mayans and Aztecs doing. And and then when they're presented, that this you know, when people come out of it and try to explain, they're just, oh, you saw the movies. Because the militaries, they're filming this stuff, and they sell it to the to Hollywood to make into movies. And so there's the out. And besides that, then you're damaging all the people that watch the movies. So stay on the Plato's Caves, let alone it be in predictive programming too. Yeah.
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I remember back in the during the Occupy, protests, and it was fascinating to watch. In our little town here, I went down and watched, and there were, for sure, Eastern Europeans dressed in, like, Eastern European clothing watching all these people and, what is going on here? And it was interesting to see how they, controlled that, occupation, of Wall Street protests through this, this non no one's leading it and consensus. It was like, what is this happening here? It was like totally controlled psychological operation. It was weird. It's really weird. But I did see, especially around the banks, when protested around, there was the these Eastern Europeans in, like, brown leather coats. I'm going, these guys stick out like a sore thumb. What are they doing? It's it was just fascinating to watch.
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Hey, Mert, you were asleep at the switch. I had sent you a private message or two earlier.
[03:24:36] Unknown:
Oh, where? Email or in here?
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In here.
[03:24:40] Unknown:
Oh, I wasn't in here. I didn't come in till
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just about thirty. Yeah. You were here when I did it.
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Oh, well, I should be able to see it then.
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Yeah.
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Scroll back probably close to an hour now.
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Hey, Brent.
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If you haven't watched,
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prior going into the gun shop, please do. I'd love to hear your opinion on, that short video.
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Yeah. I saw him there. I had to get to bed early, which I didn't, but, you know, I I've got the emails.
[03:25:18] Unknown:
Yeah. No worries.
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So is this private? What are you doing here today? Yeah. Because of winners? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had some stuff to say, but I I figured I'd just not say it. But I don't know. Yeah. And then I,
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egged you on because he, had said something that would have triggered you.
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Which thing was that? Probably a lot.
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Oh, he was talking about the flat earth thing.
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Oh, I didn't hear that part, I guess. The hellfire thing gets me too. He should know better.
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Well, he mentioned one thing that came to mind. I'll say it out. The faces of the earth. I'd never heard that before
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that way. Poetic melanin.
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Oh, you had some pretty good stuff today, believe it or not.
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Sorry.
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I was rather backhanded.
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I I talk too much. I get my just hate the lies. I'm so sick of all the lies.
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You say you're my little brother.
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Lies. Lies.
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I can't go for this predator stuff, though, with everything was over in seventy AD. Nope. I don't I don't buy it. He says when I come back did he come back in seventy AD? He's been here all along in spirit form. Breath of holiness. They're one. He didn't come back in seventy AD. Do you think it would be important for us to have the King James version Bible? And learning more and more about that if he weren't keeping his word? We don't understand his word or don't want to, some of us. Yeah. My talk's with Ken. He's like, oh, I used to believe that. Now I believe this, but I might believe that again. I'm like, okay. Whatever. I mean, I can see that in a lot of respects.
You know? Like, I thought Kurt was killed, and I was feeling bad for that. I thought, oh, well, that's you know? I mean, not that I liked him because everything I did see about him was Zionist stuff. But then, you know, since then, that breath of holiness has been showing me other stuff he did. So I'm planning to play a couple of his things where he's helping people and, you know, then Max Egan, he gets part of it, but he he didn't follow-up. And I I did like what he said about, Erica, though. He said, oh, she's a pretty lady, but she's no, what's her name? I can't think. One of the real svelte, vaguely, you know, like, swimsuit models or whatever. I hope they weren't. But
[03:28:51] Unknown:
Oh, Elle McPherson?
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Yeah. He said that one and another one. But, you know, which he if he makes a point, you know, she wasn't. And that it she won that on and, well, he's saying 17. Everything happened when she was 17. No. She was that was actually her 20 birthday when she won the quote, unquote, won the Arizona pageant. You know, I think that was that was part of the part of her training, part of the deal going on because they have, if you look at Timothy Charles Olmsted and Jesse Saboeder and that that stuff there, they they have a cover life. You know? It might be a Christian cover life, but you wanna know what the other stuff is.
You know? And there's underground cities and, you know, Valhalla is one of them. Ragnarok and one they call Mars, I think that one's under Area 51. And the Emerald City, that's under the pentagram. And I don't know. I could see where people wouldn't wanna believe any of that either. But
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Or was that Crystal City?
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Crystal City, there by DC. Right? The foreground. Mhmm. Mhmm. Near, right by the graveyard. Remember DW talking about going there, you know, between flights and some hotel there, and it had a rotating restaurant or whatever on top. Forget which one it was. Looked it up at the time of the Hilton or I nothing at Hilton maybe. I don't know. One of them. Interesting time to be alive for sure.
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Mers, Matthew sixteen twenty eight. Go ahead and read it.
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Okay. Let me look it up. Oh, let me get my Bible. I got it right here. Matthew sixteen twenty eight. I don't know
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it often.
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Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. We don't really know who he was talking about, though, do we? Or what happened in between there?
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I mean, we know, here one of the things that filter says is important. You gotta know who's speaking, who the audience is, and what the context is. Yeah. He would say that the apostles and Jesus were talking only to the tribes.
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That's
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it. Well, you know, the the apostles, the, you know, disciples, they were they were of the tribe, the the tribes, plural. You know, he had then Benjamin,
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right, with Paul. But they had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior is the point.
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Oh, yes. Right. Right. But I mean, as far as now someone got really irritated with me because they really knew their scriptures. It was years ago Because, everyone's repeating, and you you will do greater things than I did, you know, raising the dead and healing the, you know, the crippled and the blind and everything. Right? And, so they're they're thinking, oh, me. I'm gonna do that. When you hear people say this all the time, and it they're taking it out of context, he was speaking to his disciples. We may or may not be able to do that, but that's not who he was speaking to.
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You know? Because we'll judge angels.
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What's that?
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Paul says we will judge angels.
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Yep. Yep. Some of them need judging too.
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Well, there's a lot of them who are on the wrong side. So I sent you a thing on a guide by called Melito from Sardis. This goes to show you about the canon of the church. This guy is second century church from Sardis, and he's going to Palestine to find out where the canon comes from of the Old Testament because obviously the church doesn't know. So he's like the first guy who collects this evidence, but he doesn't say in his journey who he talked to, where the evidence came from. Nothing.
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Not a thing. Is,
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seven minutes ago.
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Yeah.
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So and and and this is coming from Pharisees in that area probably, which are trying who are the enemy of Christ and are gonna want to exclude books that are gonna have truth in them, especially if it goes against their doctrine. So I'm looking at all of this more and more skeptical, especially the Old Testament is complete. Just throwing it out there though. I'm certainly not one way or the other, but, mostly because of the evidence that we have from sealed by the king, that's a big factor in it. But maybe there these books are still missing, yet God saw that what was done in 1611 was adequate for what his needs were.
Who knows? Mhmm.
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Yeah. There's supposed to be a four volume, large volume leather bound Bibles that were found, you know, like, up in Canada, and they're in the British Museum now.
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I mean, but this guy, Melito, he's a column of bishop, I guess, at the time. He's they don't know what it is, and they're going to Palestine to figure it out. Mhmm. And he's writing to one of his brothers at home about you know, because he's doing it like for his brother who really wanted to know what the old testament consisted of.
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Pretty strange.
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Have you guys heard of a car called a Lucid, l u c I d.
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Yep. Very, very, very quick car, all electric, obviously. And the name, obviously, is not
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Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. I saw one this morning. I think I've seen several around here in the Vegas area.
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There's a
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link.
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Well, I'm about five or ten minutes away from work, and that driver, I guess, did quit. They're wanting to throw couple more days on me.
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Oh, wow.
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I haven't consented to it. But
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yeah. Looks like a Knight Rider SUV.
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One I saw was more of a car configuration, but it looked like, remember that movie, The Car? That demonic car?
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Yes. What was it called the car?
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Yeah. It was called the car. It goes back in, what, 7576.
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Awesome. This thing is deep like my car pretty much, like they all are right now with almost no back window, like they're trying to force you to use the the camera for backup. I hate that thing. Can't see what's behind you.
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It was kinda demonic, the car. Uh-huh. That car kinda looked demonic.
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Mhmm.
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Like, I'm driving a Power Mobile. Get out of my way.
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But they're sitting in the front of it? Is the engine where's the engine? Wait a minute. This ad, it has real fast ad here. Like, stop. I wanna see that part. They have the hood up. They're sitting inside it, eating. Where? I guess because it's electric. You wanna be sure and sit on the battery every chance you get.
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Yeah. Arced it out like a Volkswagen. That's it's under the back seat.
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Oh, is it?
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No.
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That's funny. Speaking of Volkswagen, my little old Volkswagen well, it was before it was even mine, but it was parked down here where I was camping, and it's like a bowl shaped area. You go down in right and there is a really big storm. And I so I got in the back. I'm like, oh, and then I'm watching all the lightning and everything around. And and I went to start it and just went clunk. And I thought, oh, no. You know, it's not like they're gonna get a tow truck down in there. Right? But I had the manual in there, and I said, and I looked and, sure enough, where I was jumping around on the back seat, it knocked loose the corrosion on the battery. So I just had to brush that off, and then it was fine.
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Oh. Yeah.
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But that corrosion is acid.
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Yep. Yeah. I didn't brush it off with my hand. That's for sure. Yeah.
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Does the car have any body rust on it? And New Jersey, of course, it does.
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I haven't had it for over a year now, and the guy has it running that took it. Oh. A friend of mine, yeah, saw it over parked by his girlfriend's house. I thought out in the yard by his barn. And one time, not too long ago, I just was out for a ride after running errands and came around by there, and he was out in the mower. And I'm, like, waving, and he's looking at me like, who is that? So I don't know if he recognized him or not. Funny. But, yeah, he has it running. He said he I could drive it again, but I'm not gonna press him on that. But I need do need to find the whatchamacallit?
The transfer to him, I guess, legally. But the girlfriend's house is I thought she did it lived with him. I didn't realize that, anyway, it's not that terribly far, and it's the dirt road, and so he probably doesn't. He might have put a tag on it. I don't know. I didn't ask, but you wouldn't need to. Nice little bug. Weren't that many miles on that engine either.
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What? Under a 100 thou?
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Yeah. It had been replaced. I forget just when, but there weren't a whole lot of miles put on it after. It only had well, this is this will be the fourth owner.
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Last night, you would have wanted to be in the room with us. I used the n word. No answer?
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Oh, you used the word national?
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No. The n I word with the bigger.
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Oh, that word. Mhmm. Yep.
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Yep. They have Yeah. There were these
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a holes crossing the street on a red light just taking their time and burning my time up. It's like I had something to get done, you know, at work, and they're bad doing that. So I said something to the guys loudly and with attitude.
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Well, you need a horn that says n word, please.
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That would be funny.
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Or you can pull up Bruce Willis and have one of those signs. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I hate blank blank.
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Old dudes in a loose movie.
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Or, like, did you ever see the Groove two? Yeah. It's one of those old comedy flicks. And a guy was in, like, a space suit or something like that. And he went across the tracks, and then he yelled,
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it worked It started running. Yeah. But the sad fact is, at least in America, oh my god. It's the end of the world. Say that, but we can say every other racial slur of any other nation. Alright. We And those people don't go crazy. They just look at you like you're nuts, but they don't go crazy. You can call every white person in the world a Nazi. Right? How's that sound? We can call you wiggers. We can call you crackers. We can call you this, that, and the other. I'm just saying it's only the other folks that go crazy. Now I think it's a cultural issue, not really a person person thing. They've been taught and brainwashed and thinking, oh my god. That's the worst word in the world. And and I don't think they even really know what it is in terms of the root word and, you know, why it's there and what it was originally meant for, and now it's been turned into some evil slang word over the last forty years or maybe fifty, but at least forty.
Depending on if you wanna throw Jim Crow law and in that era, then the opposite is born forty years, but they've all been brainwashed. I mean, they they still want the race war, the so called government, yet they haven't gotten it yet. At least they're smart enough not to do that. You know, those people.
[03:47:54] Unknown:
Yo, Brent. I sent you a a a link with all those other videos of, the best of prior. And in in one of those videos is a native of he brought it on a native American comedian. And that guy was funny Funny. And, he he was he was using all the stereotypes that, white people use for Indians. It was quite interesting. Very interesting. I forgot. He had he had a name for, you know, the the white people have, a name for the Mexicans who call wetbacks, but he had a great name for the white pilgrims. Oh, shoot. I forget the name. Anyway, you gotta watch that too. Pilgrims.
The White Pilgrims. Oh, pilgrims. Oh, okay. Yes. You know, because we we always call them the the people in Texas call the Mexican that come over the board the wetbacks. But he had a great name for the white pilgrims. Fascinating how he used, our stereotypes to, have fun and, use satire at yield.
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Okay. Yeah. I'm not I'm not aware of the Pilgrim one, but I have to look at I'd have to look it up in a slang word dictionary, which I believe one doesn't exist.
[03:49:41] Unknown:
Jimmy, thanks for your mail. George here. I owe you a net response, so I'm just checking with the county.
[03:49:52] Unknown:
You can get the copies off the MERS website, but like I said, it takes personal information I don't have. So since it's under your wife's name, your wife's number will have to be used in order to pull data for that merge. Merge with the keeping the data. And what I mean by data is the alleged transfer that never really happens with the mortgage of the note. And, obviously, they separated. They're set in the other, and you probably know the rest of the story on that. But, one of the goals other than having a copy that I can read without watermarks is in there. If you're able to pull the proper paperwork in there, you should look for paperwork that says it was discharged and paid off, and there will be a date on one of the pieces of paper along with it. And that's that's fuel for the fire to prove if one were to take it, take the long stretch on their mortgage and proving it that was paid, as they would say, technically discharged. But point is you wouldn't owe anything neither would your wife or whoever's name it's under under I don't wanna really say fraud, but more okay.
You weren't fully clear on what happened and this, that, and the other. Because if we go from the angle of fraud, we don't want to include ourselves in the fraud. So in a way, I can't think of the word, but, there's another word that takes points of that so you don't get yourself cornered in case that whatever used against you or somebody in court, or somebody would say, or the opposing attorney, but pull, if it's probable, why you in? Why why you include yourself in the problem? And then you're kind of caught, even though that's kind of a scratch. But, you know, if you look at it that way, you're like, oh, yeah. Well, you consent to the fraud. You knew it was fraud, but you kept going.
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Right. More like disclosure or whatever?
[03:52:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That sounds more yeah. I couldn't think of the other legal term, but, basically, just like in a contract, you know, there has to be meeting on the minds, this, that, and the others. Technically, eight different things, but the basins are off to six. And without full disclosure, for example, or who's playing what role and why and who's benefiting from the role. Now if you look at your mortgage or your deed of deed of trust, It could be on the first, second, and third, give or take, page with in regards to who you or your wife, whoever signed the note, allegedly made Mirth Company the beneficiary of your note and or deed of trust. So, basically, when somebody were to hypothetically pay off their mortgage ten year, fifteen year AMR, or typical thirty year, or they take a strong-arm ten, because you or whoever signed the note did not understand what they were signing and reading.
The security in the note and the proceeds go back to them. Now not all the proceeds go to MERS, obviously, but they get the note and for what they know how to do and do with it through a third party. They'll sell that note over and over and over, let it mature, rinse and repeat forever and ever. Basically, your mortgage, would would eventually be worth, you know, billions and billions of dollars. Point is, I think within the first what's it? I wanna say sixty or ninety days. Obviously, they saw it over and over. Like, I looked at yours. They sold it. Their servicing agency is not the original one.
Oh, the other reason why we want the documents from Merced, on the back of the documents, the promissory notes, it's gonna have a big wonderful stamp in black normally. They'll say page to the order of and it should be probably the first bank that you took the loan out with. And then what we wanna see is subsequent paid to the orders on various other notes that are being sold and transmitted because you accidentally give them power of attorney and power to do so within the contract. And you'll find out there's a blank endorsement, basically, that they paid the order of and then blank and then signed by whoever the bank is that it was sold to and they rinse and repeat. Technically, what you're looking at is a, lack of, well, scratch that. There's a break in the chain of title because it wasn't officially transferred to bank a, b, c, d, so on and so forth.
By being by having that, technically, the original bank who wrote to pay to the order of blah blah blah bank is the originator in the sense of how they do things, and they're the original as they want you to believe the creditor. Everybody else is just kinda piggybacking off of something, but never never actually took full was it full full transfer of the note, which is technically illegal in the sense of the perfect title issue where it's not perfected because there was really never a transfer because the reason why they couldn't transfer it because they already sold it. They sold it and, you know, threw it on the open market, the secondary market, which is the stock market, which is technically if you look under their, SEC form, to find out they are not allowed to sell and double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip, so on and so forth.
On the secondary market, they're only supposed to get the first market, which is technically through the treasury and getting the OID and pulling credits from your wife's account and or yours depending on how many signatures are on the note. And that's where they get a loan called at par value. They don't get the full amount. They get it at par value. And then, technically, the bank is supposed to pay that loan off from the treasury, but because the way the paperwork is written, technically, the debts that debt is transferred to you within, you know, your mortgage, just that, and fees and everything else. And you're technically paying off their debt while they're busy selling the living hell out of stuff.
Double dip, triple dip, you you you name how many dips you wanna throw in there, and they're making stupid money. Now, obviously, this is on the right side of the ledger. The ledger you're not supposed to see, the public's not supposed to see. Just because the bank says, Oh, here's my quarterly earnings for this and how many mortgages do we have out and this how much outstanding debt we have blah, blah, blah. Okay. That's all in the public ledger. Who gives a hoot? I want to see the other side of the ledger. I wanna see where the real money, as they would say, is being made.
And that's the other side of the books. You know, when you got the public side, the private side, private side is gonna show you or your wife or whoever signs the the, promissory note is the original creditor. The other thing you can go do, which I didn't put in the email, go down to your taxation office, your proper tax office. You you might have to do a FOIA or go to different locations, the minimum, who you're talking to, because not all of them might know what you're looking for. But you need to ask for since you open this up, and I think in 2023, you wanna get every listing of every home exemption that was put on the property address.
And what you're looking for in there, you wanna see the bank and in which banks are putting, foreclosure, how home exemptions on the property address. And if they give you the right form on there, the bank is gonna say that they are the borrower and that Merce is the beneficiary. Now you you should not find your name or your wife's name that I think of as the creditor. But the point is it shows you, okay. Well, the bank is the borrower. And when you put two and two together, you're borrower of what? Oh, wait. Who's the creditor? I'm the creditor. Now, obviously, there's people wear different hats. In the public, you're the debtor. On the private side, you're the creditor.
Hence, the way that note is written when it says lender is blah blah blah bank, Borrower is blank blank blank for the purposes of this notes or security instrument that they like to reword it on the document. Basically, they they switch a bunch of things in there where it's really talking about you, but they switch in reverse roles with putting their name in certain spots with yours, but to put your name or your wife's name. Or if it's co signed together, then it would be miss it'd be both names. That's part of the process of updating that need of trust and firing the trustee.
The trustee is, I don't have it in front of me, but if you look on there, just look at who the trustee is. Basically, we're gonna replace the trustee. We're gonna make the beneficiary of that document your trust. The trustee is going to be you or whoever the trustee is for the trust. And then, obviously, long story short, you're gonna fire the trustee that is in place of that note currently. You're gonna give him a nice formal letter. Such and such has been moved or sold to a trust. Blah de blah de blah. You are hereby fired fired fired for well, keep me at legal terms.
Not always for your judiciary duty under this deed of trust. I know you don't have to sit there and explain what they're not doing. That's for them to figure out. Point is you're putting them on point. The other thing is I don't believe I'm pretty sure the Germaine Act is still in effect where you can legally, in their eyes, move it to a trust without invoking the due on, due on sale clause, which is in there. I looked at it. It's it's hidden, but it's in there. They don't call it due on or due on sale clause. It's they use, like, basic words due on sale or something to that effect, and it's a clause within a clause, if you will.
Because, obviously, who wants to bring their mortgage up right away because they moved it into something that they don't want you to move. The reason why they don't want you to move it into a trust is because they can't really deal with you. They're dealing with a servicer who's not acting in trust. With a trust, you deal a trust with a trust, a trustee with a trustee. And because they're not doing that once it's officially done, technically, they shouldn't be collecting from you because then at that point, the funds or the instrument in which they moved into their trust, that trustee would have to communicate with your trustee your trust trustee and then handle the account that way. But, of course, they don't wanna they don't wanna expose that too much.
We've had people who have done and moved things properly to a trust, their mortgage that I'm speaking of, and some have actually gotten it discharged. Not that they had to write any words saying, well, discharge this or anything to that effect. It's because they moved it into a trust. And by happenstance, that company or the bank or the servicing agency and the bank at the time, whoever allegedly held the note, did not want to fight that and they gave them a release of mortgage. Now these are one offs. This is not the, normal business practices, but it can happen.
This is not to get your your, ants in the pants to be like, oh my god. Oh, this is great. Yeah. Well, it could happen. Obviously, we want to because that'd be one of the easiest ways to win without having to argue anything. Basically, by your actions, deeds and actions. Oh my god. Oh, they know something. Okay. We we don't want that in the public. So you were saying something earlier?
[04:03:15] Unknown:
No. That that's, that's excellent. I will probably have more questions, of course. Do you, you called it the Germaine,
[04:03:26] Unknown:
the Germaine clause or something? That's the Germaine Saint something something basically, I don't call it provision, but the term law protections within the mortgage, field of study where they couldn't force a sale or, bring the note forward against you, the borrower, and pay up whatever you owe in arrears in order to move it into a trust. And I explained earlier why they don't wanna do that, but that came along so you didn't have to deal with that. But it needs to be put in a, irrevocable trust, not a revocable, and not a living revocable. If it's if you're making a living one, it needs to be living irrevocable trust.
[04:04:14] Unknown:
Correct. Okay. Thank you.
[04:04:18] Unknown:
Now along with that, since you or your wife are a combination of you and your wife, give them power of attorney without realizing it. Again, it's not really gonna say in any of your of your documents in mortgages or even your car contract that I've ever seen. Oh, you so and so get full rights called, power of attorney in this blah blah blah. Basically, the hidden word that means the same thing is when it says you give security interest in blah blah blah, fill in the blank. And to add on to that, they love the section, at least in your contract here that we have. If you go to page, I don't know, seven or eight regarding e electronic signatures and the signature act of blah blah blah. I think most of us know, at least in common law and as far as back as we can go with contract law, these be wet ink signature.
Now I don't know any studies if you go far back where it says it must be handwritten. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I've not gone that far with it. But my point is it needs to be a real life signature and not some stamped version or printed version of a signature. Yet the opposite escape this so they can continue with their fraud digitally, they pass, you know, the signature act, this and that, and all this other crap in the last fifteen I wanna say ten or fifteen years where they slowly, you know, have people, oh, here's your iPad. Here's your pad. Just just sign here. We're not gonna print out the document. We're not gonna sit here and ask you for your wet ink signature with a blue pen or black pen. Yet they can get away with the additional version where they obviously because you gave them permission in in that section on page seven or eight or give or take on the electronic signature section.
Basically, it says without saying we can sign any and all documents with your name period. We'll just superficially throw it on there and copy paste if you will. And it's perfectly okay because you said so. Again, that has to do with, oh, you give us security interest in blah, blah, blah, or you give such and such as collateral for blah, blah, blah. But again, when we're reading these documents, we don't understand what is the collateral? What what does the bank in this particular instance have to put up? Well, we know, called sovereign junk or whatever, but in contract law and and with banking, they haven't put up damn shit.
The point is what was supposed to happen, you were supposed to get the house as the perk or the prize because you, John Smith, or Jane Doe Smith, gave the bank who was interested in purchasing a security instrument, I e the promissory note. And that was technically the deal. But, obviously, as you know, mortgages do not happen that way because they make you sign the second part, which is the the mortgage at the closing table, the warranty deed, the deed of trust, which is called it's called the mortgage depending on what state you're in. And then the promise turned out. So there's three parts to that.
Okay. You were saying what now?
[04:07:56] Unknown:
No. That yeah. I I was following you just because somebody had proven that the payment the bank got is from the Fed anyway. Right? So that's kinda what Well, it's a treasury check that actually has you or your wife's name or it both signed. It would have
[04:08:10] Unknown:
both your names on it. Or hypothetically, if they really wanna do it right, it'd be two different checks. Partial credit would come out of her account. Partial credit would come out of your account. On the top left, it should say United States Treasury blah blah blah with your name written out. So it looks and appears like you paid them, which you did. But because you gave them rights and titles, if you will, to the extent of you give us security interest blah blah blah and power of attorney within that without, again, without it literally saying that. Okay. We can copy paste your name, do whatever we want. Okay. We're gonna take this check and sign it over to us because you gave us the right to use your signature, copy paste, do whatever the hell we want. Right? Oh, plus we have power of attorney. So we have all the power as if I was you. So we're gonna make you sign the check over to us and then still pretend that we gave you a loan, which we didn't give you a jack.
And then we're gonna put all x amount of credits, because there's no money, into what we call an escrow account, which technically has a lot of the credits that technically should take care of everything in terms of the money, if you have an HOA, this and that. Because under the definition of a finance charge, it means all charges including keyword is all. If you look at your mortgage or when you're at the signing table, they should ask you or have asked you or even if you as the buyer had made a statement, do not take property tax, for example, out of our escrow. We will take care of that separately.
The reason why it's an escrow is because, again, when you look up what a finance charge is under banking, it's the sum of all charges. Excuse me. Let me correct that. So sum of all charges, I e, HOAs, if you have it, this, that, and the other property taxes. Technically, it's all paid for. What we need to be doing, it's not as easy as just saying, oh, mister property tax people and calling the service company and saying, well, just pull out an escrow, but my rates on my mortgage should not go up because property tax went up. No. It's already technically covered for the extent of the notes, which typically is thirty years. I'd like to take a five year or a ten arm, ten year arm, fifteen, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. But my point is they're dipping in and out left and right, hoping you don't know any of this information, and know any better.
And keep in mind, all all these companies are compartmentalized just because you talked to Joe Schmo, and you're talking kinda like me where you're putting all this spilling up the beans, they might not even have a clue what the hell you're talking about. It's not because they wanna hide it necessarily. It really I think it really it depends who you're talking to and what department. If you get to the right department or securities department or the underwriter, they know a lot more to an extent of what you would be talking about. And sometimes you can get things done, but normally it has to be done in writing and has to go through their legal team, this and that, and you scare the shit out of them basically.
[04:11:28] Unknown:
All all part of the Ponzi bubble that's about to pop.
[04:11:36] Unknown:
Oh, well, yeah. One of the largest Ponzi schemes in the world. But, anyway, yeah, our goal is to well, I think you're already talking I don't know. It was last call. I mean, last week, you're or last few days, you were talking about making a trust and moving whatever into your trust. So if I heard correctly and that was you, then that's a good thing. We can try to get your mortgage in the right place and hope for the best depending on where you wanna go with it. Again, just because you're moving into a trust and you notify everybody that's supposed to be notified, doesn't mean that they're just gonna stop trying to collect. If they stop collecting and send you a release of mortgage, this and that and all that fancy junk, then high five, live on.
[04:12:24] Unknown:
Right. And then if they do try to collect, do they usually try to do that in federal court or
[04:12:31] Unknown:
No. No. It it'll it'll be local courts, that will try to we'll have foreclosure this and that. Now I didn't look in your state if it was nonjudicial or judicial. You do not wanna be a nonjudicial state if at all possible because it's nearly impossible. I think you get one pride before the judge to do anything or say anything because that's the very skinny, if you will, of due process where if you do it in a judicial state, your foreclosure can take six months, a year, two years. It depends how far you go with what you're doing or how you can stall these asses or they stall you or they get a summary judgment right away, this, that, and the other.
But I I rather see them in federal court. But there there are other laws pertaining to why banks cannot actually operate within the 50 states of the union. I don't have any info off the top of my head at the moment. I've read about it. I'm still studying about it. But, another reason why the banks after 2008 crashed, if you've noticed, such and such bank NA, National Association, They couldn't really operate too much under the other names. So secretly, they had to change it in that sense and create a national association. You have to research why they changed that. Again, I don't I I didn't memorize it, but I I read into it. I'm like, okay. At the time when I was reading it, I said, okay. Well, that makes sense. What do you what else are you hiding? Or when you heard Wachovia went out of business or whatever, no. They didn't go out of business. They changed names or were rebought or whatever because they got caught on the public side. Oh, there's too much interfere, and we have to run extreme amount of interference and tell the lying public, well, there's securities fraud. There's this fraud. There's that fraud. If this gets out and people wake up, oh, hell no.
The whole banking thing goes collapsed overnight. So they have to hide it. Or, like, when you read about Bank of America's charge $26,000,000,000 in some fraud or whatever whatever story the mainstream throws you at, normally, it's because they're the whistleblower, whether it works for the bank or not, that did it correctly, sued them, whatever you wanna call it, and really spilled the beans on the securities fraud. And it was such a big deal. It's like, well, I can really hurt your bank. I don't care how many billions you have. We can get you, decommissioned, if you will, from the Securities and Exchange Commission. Because you understand banks are in the business of buying and selling securities.
And under this current so called laws from 1939 to 1941, here's an exchange act of 1939 and the other act I can't think of top of my head in nineteen forty something. That's how banks make their so called money. And if they get too many dings by, the whistleblower to the Securities and Exchange Commission, They're licensing to move, sell, and do what they will with securities that they've been doing for since they were enacted back in 1939. They will not be able to do anymore, which means they go out of business. Oh, we can't have that. Can't have that.
Okay. How much do we pay you to cut the hell up? Oh, I want 10% of your company or something ridiculous.
[04:16:14] Unknown:
Go ahead. Right. For for leverage, is it worth filing some kind of complaint in the process of also, you know, doing some of these other moves just to put, you know, to try to have more leverage? Or
[04:16:28] Unknown:
not in the way that I think you're thinking. You're gonna you're gonna put liens on your property after we get going with this. You're gonna put a less pendants on your property. You're gonna put a mechanics lien on your property. As for the mechanics lien, you wanna put it for at least three times the value of the house in which you purchased it. If you purchased it for $400, multiply it by three, that's the minimum that you start with the mechanics lien. Now keep in mind, mechanics liens can only be put on according to law or so called law by living, breathing, sentient being, man or woman. A corporation cannot remove a mechanics lien whatsoever.
So my point is it's a huge piece of leverage when you know first in line, first in time regarding, oh, who pays off what when there are liens on a piece of property, whether it be a car mechanics, a car or a house or a boat or whatever. And there's a bunch of creditors coming after you, all of a sudden, they gotta figure out, oh, we gotta pull the public documents on who's got lien and who's got first rights. And depending on how bad they really want that money well, depending on how long they wanna leave the lien on there. Because laws are you know, there's a ten year, fifteen, twenty, so on and so forth where okay. They're they'll just leave it. And you wanna hope, okay. I'll have this for ten years, twenty years, whatever, and then forget to renew it, And that'd be great.
Or they would just not bother with it because they found out the first in line first in time guy or woman or whoever's got the claim. As I'll say, a $10,000,000 lien and they're only looking for a 100,000 or whatever, is it really worth it? It may be. Because if you think about it again, if the lien is already recording and it's good for ten years and I have to renew it, I mean, what what hurts them by just sitting there waiting for a time clock to digitally tell them in ten years, oh, you need to renew this in the computer. You know? But if they were following the so called law and your mechanic cleaning is that big, and let's say you did default on your mortgage for 400,000 or whatever the heck it it may be, technically, they couldn't do a a damn thing to the property because you knowing yourself have a mechanic's lien on the property for three times as much. Fine.
You want your property? You wanna foreclose? Well, fine. Yeah. I'll take, $1,200,000 right now. Yeah. You can have the house all you want. Go ahead. Have it.
[04:19:08] Unknown:
Right. So there's no so the somebody that's on the deed could could do a mechanics lien? Or
[04:19:22] Unknown:
Yeah. You're gonna lean yourself. You're gonna UCC one, lean yourself. You're gonna lean the note. You're gonna lean, was it not the prop yeah. The notes, the number on the deed of trust, less pendants on the property. The reason why we do less pendants is because there is a there's a defect in the title chain of title, and they get a cap to correct that in order to fix that or in order to also sell the house. So that's the other thing. Other than the mechanics clean issue, you got less pendants each year. Okay. Well, when somebody's buying a house and they go get the appraiser and say, well, run the run the address and tell me if we have clean title. Well, they don't have clean title because there's an issue. The issue says list pendants, which means fine. Yeah. You can buy the house with the liz pendants, but there are hidden issues, possibly public if you dig far enough with this house that you're gonna have to deal with. That includes other liens with the house, which would be a UCC one or a tax lien or some other bullshit lien that is not a mechanic's lien, then you're inheriting those issues and you do not want that. That also makes it undesirable as a property to sell.
And when your realtor or whoever puts up including the title company when they're gonna try to put the house for sale or the property, they're really not gonna like to do that because there's a less pendants on it. They're gonna have to fix their crappy crappy chain of title, which is never correct because there's the note separates from the mortgage. And according to the law of 18, even in court cases 18, what, with 68 give or take, It's null and void if both of them are not together because it's it's it it gives the it gives the full value of the note. Now that you split it, now it's not valued at the, you know, 500,000, 400,000, or whatever it's valued at.
You you need both according to their own laws and own rules. You know, it's not me making it up. It's it's their junk. But even with all this, I'm I'm I'm sure people have heard plenty of times. It's it's hard to get it brought up in any court, federal, state, to bring it up, let alone win because the courts, you know, they side with the bank even though they may know you're absolutely right, this and that. The other thing is if you get a jury of alleged 12, do they really want the secret out? I forget. There is a case that somebody did win. It was I think it was 1986. In that particular case, cannot be used anymore in any cases further from that. Basically, you can't you can't put it in your in in your, I won't call it pleadings, but, in your court documents, you can't bring them up as evidence.
Right. Because, again, it would destroy the banking system overnight for for forget the fraud that was dealing with in 02/2008. It's it'd be even bigger than that. And all the banks would wouldn't know what to do because they couldn't sell to any other bank or any other holder because nobody wants it. Even though it's been milked left and right, up and down. I mean, I I think an average every mortgage is worth at least four or five hundred million within the first ten years. If you go the whole stretch of ten, fifteen, thirty years, it's about 4,000,000,000, 5,000,000,000 each. And it it's amazing how how banks cry poor, yet on the private side, they have probably trillions of dollars. I'm like, oh, fuck yourself.
[04:23:10] Unknown:
It's funny. I had a friend that was, he was a quadriplegic and his, got hurt as wife decided to divorce him. And, we tried to say they tried to kick him out of probate court. We tried to kick him out of the house. You know, he's got a accessible house that the actual state had paid for the ramp and all that. They tried to they put a Liz Pendants on the property to try to prevent the sale. You know? But I think because it was a probate action, it might have preceded that or something. So, I don't know a lot about Liz Peddens, but that that's one case that I remember. They just I was there the day they tossed him out, change himself to his hospital bed.
[04:24:00] Unknown:
Well, the the other reason why it probably didn't work is you have to remove the power of attorney. By having a power of attorney on file, where where they have one on file because, again, you gave them permission without knowing it. Any action you do that is that you're in a position where you can't do it under trust, under this particular type of trust, they can remove it. Because remember, Mercer is the beneficiary. The trustee is whatever the bank is. Right? Okay. That leaves you as what the grantor. Okay. Well, whoop dee doo. What power does a grantor have other than you just created a whole eight page note or eight page document that says you can do this, this, and this, and I choose so and so to be this, so and so to be that. And I leave myself hanging high and dry.
But by firing them like you would an attorney, you would still use the same form. It's part of attorney form. You notify the IRS. You notify them, all parties involved, including the original creditor and the original bank because, remember, it's being sold over and over. So you would wanna try to figure out who to notify, and that's every single one of the bastards, including the current service here, which I know is changed on yours, based on what I saw or little information I had access to. I'm like, okay. Okay. You sold this. So that's on this. I don't know how many times, but they probably sold it at least twice, three times maybe.
And then putting yourself in place of that power of attorney. So when you do a list pendants and you do a UCC one and various other things to lock in the property and move it into your truck. Again, if they are actually going to follow the so called law, they can't do squat to it. After they decide not to follow the so called laws, even though you've taken all the correct positions, you've done this and that, and you have a very good paper trail, then, yeah, technically, they can do whatever they want because they're that crooked.
[04:26:09] Unknown:
You know, it's amazing. I and I don't think they did this UCC one, and I don't think I don't know about that power of attorney either in that case. It was long ago when I was the IRS. You can you can before you,
[04:26:23] Unknown:
you can pull that information doing a FOIA. Because I can't do UCC ones because it's gonna show you a chain of fraud, and they can't have that documented fraud. It's another reason why there's a a break in the chain of title. You have to remove the so called lien. It has to be remember, it has to be free and unencumbered of the title. Right? Well, you can't transfer title if somebody's got a lien on it. So if they were to take up the lien from the bank number one who was the original alleged creditor and say, paste the order of John Smith Bank blah blah blah, which is not them, obviously. They sold the notes. Okay. I've got to go in the system, the UCC, release the lien, sell it to so and so, put in a lawns on the bad boy, you know, without recourse, blah blah blah, this, that, and the other because oh, okay. If there's a defect in this, we're not responsible, but we're still gonna sell you this note. It's basically what it says. Second bank would have to put a lien on that to secure secure their security interest in it, but they never do it.
Again, they can't have the fraud and a paper trail of the fraud. They gotta just hide it because people do not know this, and nobody's none the wiser. You know, here here we are. Everybody with mortgages, you know, everybody just about has been through it unless you're a trust fund baby or something or you had hand me downs or whatever.
[04:27:57] Unknown:
You know what's amazing is, we talked about UCC-one and a UCC-three, But, there on that, the Trim tab website, it was actually a PDF. I should send it to you. It's an actual case where I don't know if you knew Jimbo out of Tampa, I think they're out of. But he had, him and his brother have been dabbled in the UCC. He owns a property that, he didn't even know was under foreclosure because he had I guess he was living with his girlfriend at the time or whatever, but, he just basically just let the property go. He figured out a thing. I can't pay you know, I'm underwater on it, whatever.
But he did some research afterwards, and he found out he had filed a UCC one naming the hospital. And then the foreclosure case got got basically, they the the hospital was in Detroit. So here's a property is in is in Florida. The secretary of state where the attorney general became the registered agent basically in Florida, they requested, they because the subpoena got lost, they claimed, and they, wanted the case basically dismissed. And then so the foreclosure case was dismissed because they supposedly, you know, subpoena got lost or something like that. They used some excuse like you're saying. And then, like, two years later, the whole mortgage disappeared as well. It was it was canceled or whatever.
So that power, that UCC is really something. And the fact that because for the some something with the estate, you know, something with the name. Right? They use that UCC one and then the naming the the hospital was the one who had gotten the consideration, I guess, from the government in the first place, right, to register the register the event of the birth. And somehow that tied into getting these two actions. I can show I can send you that case of your interest. It's very interesting.
[04:30:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's always good to get different angles on things and see what works and whatnot because certain things, it may work a few times, and they they also have some way around it because they'll make up some policy within the bank or some crap. We we don't accept that even though federal law says we should, but they know people don't have the money, to take it to federal court or whatever and prove it beyond reasonable doubt. And then the fact that how loaded the dice are against us in any court, it's like, okay.
You you kinda have a spot of balls and, you know, what it is. Not because we're all chicken and we're we're we're wusses. It's just they made the system and it's working, believe it or not, as perfect as they made it to be. It's working exactly what it's supposed to do. Yet people are on the fence saying, oh, no. It's so crooked and this well, it is, but it's not because they built it this way. It's doing exactly what they're what it's doing. Yes. There are a few cracks here and there, but like I just said, they have some way around it. Usually, it's gonna be some policy. It's not really a mechanism that they can enforce by law. It's just, oh, no. Our policy says, well, we ignore this or whatever until it becomes a serious matter, which would be federal court this or that or a well written notice with the certain information on it proving that you probably have enough information to drown them.
And because of the amount of money that they're making on these mortgages, it's like, well, okay. We're not gonna fight you in court. We're just gonna release it, and it's out of the public eye as if it never happened. And you post probably might not go out and boast about it and screw up the method for yourself and maybe your future purchase or whatever. But that has to do with proving securities fraud and pulling a well documented and correctly done forensic audit with a certified witness. Because that certified witness, if pulled into court, whether it's state or federal, I would keep it out of the county court because that's, the wrong venue.
They're gonna explain that report, and that report is gonna show eventually who the creditor of the alleged amount on the promissory note. And they're caught their their pants down. And, again, they don't want that out in court if it ever gets that far. It just really depends, but that's basically the end game there because it's gonna go back all the way to the OID. And if you get the OID and you shove that in evidence and put it into evidence, that's gonna be very evident to the judge even though he's for the bank or she's for the bank because they have another your dirty deal on the back end. Probably done with some contracts. So, you know, it's okay. Well, whose contract do we follow? Blah blah blah blah.
No ID is gonna show it came from your account that's magically not supposed to exist, which is tied to the Social Security number in that account. And if anybody's wondering the whole bullshit deal of, oh my god. Social Security is gonna come out in '19, 2046. We're gonna have $0. No. No. You're not. The money comes out of your trust. Hello? Everybody's paying into it. Yes. They're if you're talking about that money that is being pulled out of your paycheck, yeah, on the public side, they're probably telling you the truth. But on the private side where the funds actually come from, no. There's plenty. Why? Because it's coming from your own account.
So that's why I was laughing on the TV. I know it's gonna end in such and such, or we're gonna lower, the amount that somebody gets or we're not going to want to increase it, you let's say, 4% per year to keep up with inflation. I mean, from what I've looked at statistically, if it's right, the average person who brings Social Security is maybe 1,500 a month if you're lucky. That's probably kinda high. I think the average is more like a thousand. But if you do the math and the time you do at 60 or 65 plus 4% a year, that's just being on the low end to keep up with inflation, let alone, okay, do we include in the housing, you know, section where the data is? Because they like to split that and skew that. Oh, this is the, I don't know, call it, like, weights and measures, but the weights and measures are based on food, gas, and this, and everything else is kind of thrown out the window. It's like, well, then your whole chart is skewed off.
But I I think folks should have gotten from the start. I don't care if you start grabbing Social Security twenty years ago. It'd be, you know, four to 8% a year, basically, follow the inflation rate to keep up with the dollar or the so called dollar. And, yes, I I I would have to agree. It's kinda sad where people have to sit there and just think that their Social Security is gonna get a buy even if you've already paid for the house or whatever. I'm like, have you looked at the cost of living aside from not having a mortgage? Okay. Yeah. You know, how much your house repairs? How much is that water heater? How much is lawn service? Dada dada dada. It's like, you're 1,200 a month ain't gonna cut it.
You you should have a few million at least in the bank or at least in in the, if it's not in the bank in cash reserves, you need to have, passive income that's bringing in the money to supplement your thousand dollars or 1,200 or whatever you get for Social Security. I'm not saying everybody can do it. But you know, it's the 401 k thing is, to me a joke. The only reason why I would do it is if the company I work for is gonna match the whole bunch of them yet. And that's the only time I I would say yes, only because you're matching it. Other than that, there's better investments that make a lot more money than a four zero one k.
If you know how to do it right, obviously, it's not for everybody. I'd say, well, go screw your four zero one k.
[04:36:29] Unknown:
Can I ask a question?
[04:36:31] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:36:33] Unknown:
Did you go to the Tom Shaw expert witness CPA course?
[04:36:40] Unknown:
I know what you're talking about. I have the course.
[04:36:44] Unknown:
Really?
[04:36:45] Unknown:
And by the way, he is a lot. He's in he's in Nevada, and he's, he unfortunately doesn't live in a house. He's in an apartment. Not not saying that any gauge or disrespect to him. It's just, you know, I figured with the money he was making in the nineties and 2 thousands, and he'd be doing well from stuff. And I'm not saying he isn't. Maybe he just likes to live simple. Anyway, yeah. He's he's up and still around, but he doesn't really teach anymore because if you listen to his course, things when he was doing it, going around in the circuits, if you will, the circuit, I mean.
Yeah. He made very poignant. Okay. There are folks in here that you can't control that are gonna go to these courses or buy his course and try to scam people or only have 80% of what they need to win in court. But the most important stuff is the 20% that the only way you get it, he makes sure that you're paid legally this and that. You know, he's got checks and balances before he gives you the real meat and potatoes that you need to put it all together in order to win. And then the other plus was because things were rapidly changing so much without him really directly saying it, I mean, yes, this is good. Most of it's true. But let's say in twenty years, I'm not here doing it because I'm retired or maybe he, you know, he ticked the bucket, let's say.
Do you have the knowledge to figure out what's attained so you know what to ask and how to ask it and dah dah dah dah dah while in court? And he makes it very I I mean, it's logical to me, but some people have to hear it because they their their brain just works different. But
[04:38:24] Unknown:
Wow. How'd you get a hold of that course?
[04:38:29] Unknown:
I have ways, but I we can't Yeah. Do do do the do the NDA and how that works. We can't go into that. Yeah. Yeah. That's his that's his NDA. Don't mind.
[04:38:40] Unknown:
Yeah. What part of, Nevada is he in? Is he in the Vegas area?
[04:38:48] Unknown:
Give me a second. Let me I I I think I have it here. Hold on. If if he's close to the Vegas area,
[04:38:57] Unknown:
I could probably, hopefully, go to see him and put him on the air with us.
[04:39:06] Unknown:
Oh, let's see here. Let me see here. Where is it?
[04:39:15] Unknown:
Thought I had it written And and how and how Paul recorded.
[04:39:23] Unknown:
Let's see here. And probably,
[04:39:27] Unknown:
if it was well received or he's you know, he likes it, Murr would probably want him on her show. Maher.
[04:39:42] Unknown:
Possibly. Hold on. I thought you know, I had the information written down. I had his address. I had his number, and now I can't find it. Anyway, he did it back in the early nineties and late nineties on video recorded tape. And he would pretty much self, what's the word? Self self published, self disc because, you know, the information was what it was. You can imagine. Crap ton of work, but it was a 12 plus, well, 11 to 12 plus video cassette tapes series if you bought it unrecorded. Obviously, live is a different thing. And there's two different things. One is courtroom etiquette or critique, and then one was, are you like a bank loan expert witness?
Trade secrets, confidential, only to only to be listened to by individuals assigning the agreement. And that was his agreement. It has been since he created the program. 9798. February, it started dying down. He is also the creator of the Matrix, book version one and two. I forgot the official name. Excuse me for that. Not to get mixed up with Radio Ranch and the Matrix stock thing. That's a different thing. I have his books around here somewhere.
[04:41:17] Unknown:
Other than the two books that I think I think it's two or three books that we have on the matrix stocks. Are there any more item or properties?
[04:41:31] Unknown:
I have to let let me I have a folder. Let let me look up the folder here.
[04:41:37] Unknown:
It's we could probably have Julie go through that, you know, take a look at them and stuff. And since she's into real estate and stuff, she could probably make heads and tails with it. And also be the nexus between what he did and, what's going on now.
[04:42:08] Unknown:
Right. One of his books was America's Hope to Cancel Bank Loans Without Going to Court. He learned secrets from some top level bankers in the eighties, put it together with his knowledge of already doing what he did, in his field of expertise to put it together.
[04:42:33] Unknown:
Does he talk about, every loan is a fraud?
[04:42:39] Unknown:
He talked mainly his main thing that he'd been doing was on bank loans. But basically, loans are pretty much the same thing because they're all done under hopes and dreams. Here's the American dream. Right? Sign here.
[04:42:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Because when he was, teaching his course one time, a guy pulled a lot of students pulled him to the side and told him, did you know every loan is a or bank loan is a fraud? And then he showed him how.
[04:43:15] Unknown:
Okay.
[04:43:16] Unknown:
And Roger talks about that because he was listening to him on the Raycon shortwave back then.
[04:43:25] Unknown:
Let's see here.
[04:43:31] Unknown:
I'm glad I asked that question because it wouldn't have come out. And we talked about that guy periodically. One time we were talking about him for probably about two or three days straight, and we were hunting for his books. How old is he about now? Did you did you meet him in person or just talk to him on the phone or something?
[04:44:05] Unknown:
No. I did my due diligence because somebody else was looking to see if he was live because we're like, wait a second. We're following this man's life. We're getting late information in the sense that, okay, this this is how it was done in the nineties and February, and, obviously, we already know things have changed. And not necessarily because, his information isn't legal in a sense, oh, this is exactly how it works. This is how double entry bookkeeping works to use this other ledger blah blah blah and gap. But we're trying to figure out, well, where in where in the hell is he? Why did he just disappear off the circuit and we haven't had any new books that are updated to reflect, okay, here are the changes as a CPA, this and that, that I found out a, b, c, and d.
Here's revision two or three, dah dah dah dah dah. You know? Okay. I'm looking actually, wait a second. I think I know where I put it. But I don't believe he's married. If I recall, he's living with a girlfriend. I wanna say he's in his seventies, I believe.
[04:45:33] Unknown:
But I was just saying I was just
[04:45:36] Unknown:
to find out where this guy lived, not to be a, a nosy Nancy, but I was like, well, somebody's willing to make that call or happen to be in the area not to bug him, but Right. You know, well, we're bugging him, but we're not bugging him and doing it in a way where it's not invading, if you will. And just kinda get a feel for, well, hey. What's up, man? You you know, I've read your stuff. You you know, the whole spiel and, you know, where you at.
[04:46:04] Unknown:
Well, pretty much. He kinda has a following, you know, in our group.
[04:46:14] Unknown:
Well, yeah. For for good reasons. I mean, if you've listened to his stuff, read his books, or get a really good, grasp on it, you're like, this makes sense. Not that I know anything fully about CPAs, but, you know, I've read, you know, certain amount of things that you gather at least some information. And you're like, okay. Well, I can't find anything wrong with what this guy said. And then, you know, in my mind, I have to apply to what probably was happening back when he was teaching it versus now. Obviously, we would have to contact a bunch of CPAs that really know their CPA business because he states in his some of his lectures, I can't recall in his books, where not every CPA knows certain things. And you gotta have the right level, if you will, with the information. And then even if it's compartmentalized, okay. Well, John's got this. Jake has this. Jill has this. Put it together. Oh my god. Here's the big big picture. It's kinda like a word history.
[04:47:13] Unknown:
You don't have to be a forensic CPA.
[04:47:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I I believe he was. I forget if he was certified in that, but I know he's a CPA at a level that was I think in his own words, you know, it wasn't your standard CPA. Mhmm. And then, of course, he had help like any great people. I don't know any great people who haven't had help whether it's from other people or demonic spirits or whatever. There's nobody that I know as a man is that special unless it's Jesus. That is that's smart to get wherever they've gotten today. Unless God really bless them, I guess there is a chance. But everybody is to get where they are, usually, had to get some serious help.
[04:47:56] Unknown:
I have a friend that's with the FDA. And when he got laid off of a job one time, three years later, he became a billionaire
[04:48:07] Unknown:
Oh. Through Nice.
[04:48:10] Unknown:
Through, payday cash places pawn shops. But, yeah. Yeah. But his little secret is when he was gonna get laid off, they were gonna get a $50,000 payout. And what he did, he went over to the largest pawn broker in the country. Their headquarters was where he was. And he didn't tell him that, you know, he was an FBA, but, you know, he went and, you know, took an account job there, you know, a little part time accountant job, night audit or thing. And, he, a share of this, which would give him, you know, their perspectives, you know, every year. And he could read that stuff.
And he figured out how they did stuff. Plus, he was doing their books. And, he was when he got the layoff a few months later, he was able to put it together.
[04:49:18] Unknown:
Okay. I, I found my information. It was hidden. He is as of February 7 this year. He is 69.
[04:49:33] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[04:49:35] Unknown:
Now let me do some calculations to make sure I got it right. So it's 02/2025. Okay. He he's 70 as of February. April 1955 is when he was born.
[04:49:51] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[04:49:53] Unknown:
His middle name is Dean. Marital status, like I said, is single. He's got a relative, Jesse Leaf Soft, lived with Kim, whether they own or whatever. Who knows? She's 54, born in '71, give or take. He lives in a condominium flash townhouse, and he's in Henderson, Nevada. 89
[04:50:22] Unknown:
I live I live in Anderson.
[04:50:25] Unknown:
Well, go down to Annie Oakley Drive.
[04:50:28] Unknown:
I know where that's at.
[04:50:31] Unknown:
It's Apartment 325 or Townhouse Number 325. Allegedly, I would say that because I don't I don't have police access to certain things, although they're verified. But, he's been living there since 02/2005. Now he was still teaching in the early nineties, like I said. And then, of course, he's got his books, the the Matrix book, a few others. Let let me see if I have a list. T h o m a s s h a u f.
[04:51:06] Unknown:
What did his course cost?
[04:51:11] Unknown:
I'd have to look it up.
[04:51:13] Unknown:
Just a ballpark figure. I don't need to know exactly.
[04:51:17] Unknown:
I don't recall off the top of my head.
[04:51:22] Unknown:
What you do have? A detective, software go and find him?
[04:51:28] Unknown:
No. No. This is all all stuff I did. I took took a while to find it, but I I used resources that I have and got a few of his addresses. And the one I just kind of gave you was his alleged current address. But he he has moved around a bunch just like anybody else. But he seems to be more of an apartment townhouse type of dweller. I I've never seen anything regarding him owning a house.
[04:51:57] Unknown:
Oh, the expenses, like you were saying, around now.
[04:52:01] Unknown:
Well, I have his alleged cell number and alleged landline and an alleged email address. But, yeah, I think he took retirement or maybe possibly he was, as you know, threatened. I can't confirm that nor am I implying that. But I believe there's another set of tapes or something beyond the ones that he did. One, are you, like, the bank loan expert and then the courtroom, critique tape, which they're both double sided. Again, there are ten, eleven tapes each. I wanna say, each tape is about fifteen is it fifteen hours of listening, give or take?
[04:52:53] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[04:52:58] Unknown:
His original website, if you go on the way back machine, it could be the bankhonesty.com.
[04:53:05] Unknown:
Bankodyssey.com?
[04:53:07] Unknown:
Bankhonesty.
[04:53:09] Unknown:
Oh, honesty. Okay.
[04:53:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think it dropped off from the way back machine, give or take, I wanna say, o seven maybe, o six. And he did a newsletter.
[04:53:31] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[04:53:33] Unknown:
I have only a few of them.
[04:53:36] Unknown:
How'd you become prepping to it?
[04:53:39] Unknown:
Uh-huh. You got connections. And if you want it bad enough, you'll through time, you'll get what you want as long as it exists somewhere in somebody's data.
[04:53:50] Unknown:
How long ago did how long ago did you find out?
[04:53:56] Unknown:
Oh, I've known about the guy for a long time. Not that I've met him in person. I was too young back in the day. In
[04:54:04] Unknown:
the nineties or in the February?
[04:54:08] Unknown:
I've known about them since some of those books like that matrix book, which I can't think of the stupid name on top of my head that came out. There's two versions, I believe, matrix one and two or give or take. And then, of course, you got the top secret banker's manual, which I think he wrote in 02/2002. There's a 2003 version, I believe, also. The borrower should let's see. Hold on. No. That's not it.
[04:54:40] Unknown:
Even though some of this stuff is dated, at least we'd have a historical perspective on what was going on, and they probably didn't venture too far from what they were doing.
[04:54:56] Unknown:
Well, that's logical too in my mind. The only things that I can make sense of, like, when it comes to, like, discharging stuff that I've done, and then all of a sudden doesn't work, it goes, okay. They had to make an internal policy saying, so and so, when you see this come through your desk or whatever or through an envelope, we we we can't honor it. And here here's the generic code that you need to pop up this generic bullshit letter, send it off as our response, and and and be none the wiser. And then they'll have secret classes probably or within their new manual, added section, addendum, whatever you wanna call it.
Beware of sovereign citizen type of blah blah blah. Here's an example. Drafts, notes, promissory notes, verified, certified, blah blah blah. We don't take this. We don't accept it. Yada yada yada. And that's kinda how I've heard and been down that. And I can verify at least one of those things that I'm talking about right now in context where it it was denied soon after, which is the IRS. You look at the IRS, there's a certain section of the website regarding forms of payment they do not accept, and they literally have a picture of a document that some of us have used few years back that was working for various things, not just the IRS. And all of a sudden they put it in their manual saying we don't accept it.
They didn't really call us sovereign citizens in it, but it was pretty much on those lines. Okay. You, a man or woman or person or whichever they wanted to find us, cannot write the go to blue instruments out of thin air even if the bank doesn't. And remember, banks are only in the business of buying and selling securities. When you make a deposit thinking, oh, my money is no. That's bullshit. There's no such thing as a deposit. Technically, that low that that name or or not name, the term is done via fork tongue. It says this, our general knowledge thinks it's this, but reality due to fork tongue language, it really means this. Here's the legal lease behind it. You're giving us a free loan and we can we can loan out, even though they don't loan out, we can fractionalize this bad boy nine times or 10 times. I think it's nine or up to 10 times the value of what the alleged quote unquote deposit is put in the bank as 0% interest.
And that because we're such happy go lucky bankers, we'll give you point 05% interest rate on your checking account. Oh, and because we're giving you interest and not a non bear non interest bearing account, we can, go ahead and, tell the IRS you made x amount of money in interest. I'm like, no. I don't want an interest checking account. I don't want anything. If anybody knows how to make money, they they know even if it's a 5% interest account on a checking account, screw it. Go for 0%. Zero zero zero zero. Get your tax liability down to zero. You're porting down to zero because they they they can't report interest because there's none. So look at your statements that you get from the bank every year. It's it's oh, this is how much interest you made.
You know? I'm like, no. Sorry. No. I I don't wanna do that, and, I want the power reserved in me if I could. You know, screw the screw the EIN number and screw the Social Security number. Give me a private bank account, period, with an ID that is only internal or whatever, or I make the ID number. You just tell me how many digits you want it to be, and we'll go from there. And what I do privately with you through this branch, which is public, no third party intervener has any business in dealings with what the hell I do with you. I don't care if you launder. You shouldn't care if I launder. Not saying that you should do that. Point is it's private contract.
Who in the hell is the IRS, a third party intervener as to why based on your stupid policy, you must have a Social Security number or an EIN to open up a bank account. Go blow that your butt. I know what you're doing. You want us to tattletale on ourselves, and you folks think you are a withholding agent or have some legal moral duty or even morals go out the window to report things on this form or that form, to the IRS. But the IRS is not what they think it is, but, of course, they don't know that. So, you know, they don't know how to argue that. But go look up the definition of a withholding agent. They have to be registered. They have to have certain credentials. Your employer does not have that. The bank does not have that.
Their duty is to the banking system, not the I the IRS. Yes. They they are a ledgering company, if you will. They are the biggest what's the word? Think of it like a CPA and they do the ledgering and and the bookkeeping. They're like the best in the world because that's what they do. That's all they do. They wanna balance the books. Right? But, of course, good luck getting a bank unless you have somebody who owns a bank, legally speaking. They're registered and, they fall under, what, circular 10 and circular, I think, nine and seven regarding that they're connected with the central banking system. This and that. Yes. They could they technically make their own policies as they screw it.
We don't want your social. We want your business. What security do you wanna sell today? Oh, I wanna sell one for $5,000,000. I need $5,000,000 in credit in my account. This and that. Here's a security agreement. Since you're the middle man, if you will, intermediary between me and the treasury window, I want you to get paid a certain amount of interest. You're going to invest the living hell out of this security instrument because that's what you do. Federal loss of eightytwenty. You get 20 percent of whatever cut is made off of this note until it matures. Then we cash it out and then we go from there. We can re divest it or whatever at that point in forty years, twenty years, thirty years, rinse and repeat.
Basically, that's how it's supposed to go. Nobody is supposed to worry about usury and interest rates. Okay, I gave him the security. I need the credit which unfortunately, in some businesses I want to deal with and trade it off for Federal Reserve notes because this business, I'll say, like, cash is king, and they don't wanna deal with, credit card transactions and quote unquote being traced. Wink. Wink. Okay. Well, here's $50 in cash for whatever. Now, obviously, I think back in the day, you could do that with the dealership nowadays. They they will not take your cash, as far as I know.
That's a bad example. My point is, you know, the the concept of cash is king. I think that would be one of the only ways unless you can force a local bank to really follow the law about privacy and not having to legally give you a number that doesn't belong to them. You obviously know why they need it because they got an access to trust or they want the access to trust. Okay. You want a loan? Okay. Give me your number. We'll go get the check with your name on it and it will say from the United States Treasury, oh, you're at the closing table. You, missus Jane and missus John Doe, you forgot to ask for the check. Instead, you foolishly signed the note, a b, you got the deed, c, you signed the mortgage.
Now you just put up the collateral when the collateral wasn't the house. Stop putting the house up for collateral. The collateral is the note. Here's the note. I signed it. Now it has value because you're going to go and fill out the correct forms to wire it electronically through your broker to the treasury. With a house, it takes seventy two hours with a note on a cart on a car automobile. It takes twenty four hours for that note to be turned into, quote, unquote, a check from the treasury, which is then sent to the dealership or I e the title company in this case, the funds.
So they'll throw that into escrow. They'll pay the, the seller. You none the wiser signed all three documents. Here are your keys, and here's your bottle of champagne, and here's the American dream. Did you really buy a house? No. The hell you didn't. You just bought a death plate. And then people forgot to accept the notes or the, or I mean, not not the note, accept the deed. They technically forgot to endorse the note. That's another thing I I left up. Because if you read your note, it says, I promise to pay, you know, John, Jill, or whoever you're married to or not married to, promise to pay rip off bank in a $500,000 and zero change blah blah blah for thirty years for the next month, blah blah blah. Okay. Well, fine.
What you should have done if you knew it was an instrument, after you get through all the crap, hopefully, you rewrite it because, technically, you are allowed legally to get a physical copy of this notes and or mortgage. Take out the words you don't like. Because why why can you do it? Because you're the one you're the only one signature on there, on the line that says, I'm promising to pay. You have a unilateral contract instead of a true contract with two parties, and the others main six. They create a contract. There's eight, but most people know about the six, if not the three. Meeting the minds, you know, this, that, and the other.
And you can technically change the document and bring it back if they're stupid enough not to read it because you did it correctly where you keep the font the same, this and that. You just change little words and meanings, which throws out the whole contract into to your favor. You could hypothetically get away with it when it comes up as a problem later on when it's too late and they find out and you're like, well, tough shit. It says I can do that. It says this, this, and this, you know, and they're used to, you know, a contract that says puts all the power in their favor. Well, screw you. No. It's it's it's in my favor now. But, anyway, with notes, you know, you know, you're supposed to flip it on the back. Or if it's only, let's say, a third of a page on the last part of the whole document, page eight of eight, and it's only a paragraph and the rest of the page is blank, Okay. Fine. You don't have to flip that over. You can literally read it underneath, you know, page the order of Sykester Bank, NA or Ripoff Bank NA.
Technically endorse it and sit there and have them sign over the deed and forget the mortgage contract. Because right there, you have full title to that bad boy. Why? Because when you read that deed go read your deed. It says, you know, for your errors and, you know, for yours forever, blah blah blah, this, that, and the other. That's usually a typical deed. Okay? Well, because you didn't sign the third contract, well, I'd sit there and be like, what mortgage? I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't sign shit. I kept it legal in my in my brain because here's your note. I signed it. I even endorsed it to the bank because I know this has value. I just made it valuable because it got my signature on it.
And you, you know, you don't say this to them, but they foolishly signed over the deed to you. Okay. Well, it says this is free and clear, and it's mine. That's what the title that's what this deed says. So why the hell would I sign a mortgage? And technically, you have the keys right there. I grabbed the keys. I grabbed the deed. They can have the damn promissory note and have nice day. They really, legally can't do anything. Of course, they can do scare tactics, of course, but I'm saying in legal sense, they can't do anything because they can't hold you to a mortgage. You can't sign it. You give them you give them your consideration, and the perk for that consideration is the keys, the house, and the deed.
And then, of course, you gotta accept the deed under laws of acceptance and fully transfer the deed correctly. Most people do not do that. So the deed, the deed and then you got the deed of trust. But, obviously, because you didn't sign the mortgage, there's no deed of trust either. So, again, it's the deed. Do acceptance of the deed. Refile it. Well actually, no. At that point, don't even file it. Due in acceptance of the deed, you better hold that bad boy like it's a golden nugget worth a million dollars because you know that's that's your title, Your legal title. You don't have equitable title until you get a Lydium, which is a land pad slash land grant depending on what state you're in. Then you do what they call is a, merger of titles under merger, law merge law of merging.
And you merge both titles, therefore, you have equitable and legal title. Equitable in this particular instance is the eloiting title land patent slash land grant. A car would be the MSO, the MCO. That does not have a legal title unless you make it one by surrendering equitable title to the state slash county under the registration of a car tag and a color of title. Then you're gonna have a real big issue recombining the titles and merging them because you don't have the original. So with the car title, it's it's one title. You want the MCO, MSO, period.
But the reason for not recording or or what excuse me. If we're not registering the deed at the county for the $10 stamp or the $1 stamp is because then that puts you on the hook for property tax. That is a way of not getting property tax via the signing table. If you were type hypothetically do this and get away with what I just went over. The other thing is paying it with a gold or silver. Technically, I would probably go gold and silver or just gold, but basically under laws of equity, gold transfers equitable and legal title. Now, obviously, you don't have the Lloyd and the title at the at the at the table, but let's just hypothetically think there was. Then they can't really tax it because the county doesn't have equitable title even though they never really did because the county doesn't have rights to the allodium title and land patents anyway, but that's another story.
But because you registered the deed in your book, you know, page book number or section blah blah blah stamp for $10 or $1. Oh, okay. Now we can tax you instead of the previous owners. So by not registering it, giving them, putting them in, if you will, like a beneficiary, a k a equitable title where you're just, where they're benefiting as a beneficiary off of you using the land. Okay. Well, now now you gotta pay me because there's a benefit there, which is AKA property taxes, which obviously, I think mostly probably would agree is illegal. It's not an appropriate tax according to constitution and how the taxation is supposed to go. Everybody pays different. It's not the same. Every county's military is different.
The only example that would be a legal tax, I think, across the board is the gas tax. I think in every state, the gas tax in itself is the same percent. I could be wrong, but let's just use that as an example. That would be a constitutionally legal tax appropriated across the board or, just like sales tax isn't legal either for two reasons. One, every county tax is usually different for food tax or you bought a computer and it's 7% here, 6% here, 2.2% here. It's all illegal in that sense, constitutionally. And then b, how can you tax something that is not yours, It's not their property. Yes. You're doing commerce. I guess that's another way where they sneak it in with, well, we think you're doing commerce. So, yeah, since we got control over that, we're gonna stretch the meaning of what the commerce clause does and, or tax your ad.
There are ways I forget if we cover yeah. I think I think yeah. We covered this a few weeks ago with Joe on here on how not to pay certain taxes depending on what state you're in and what forms they left. There's a lady that was in South Carolina. I don't know if she was able to fill up the forms and get what she wants to now pay taxes. Like, certain things I don't pay taxes on. I'm not fully tax free yet, but, you know, it depends on who you're working with. Internet's a little different because you gotta get the right document that they like, and they gotta update the system, this and that. In person, some of these businesses have their own internal system. And if they're not pulling up the state's records and you have a federal tax free thing, which is higher than the state, they might not like it because they can't really put it in the system and check it because, again, they're looking at records at the state level. I know this because I've went through it with Home Depot, Lowe's. I'm like, really?
You normally can put in a code, whatever, or override it and and give me this give me the discount or or or the tax free part. And the funny thing is, at least with, I think, Home Depot, it's one or the other, but the veterans benefits. It's like, what? Yeah. Okay. We see you're tax free, but, we can't give you your veterans 20% discount either. I'm like, why the hell not? The the tax isn't supposed to go to you, so it's not like you're missing it. And then give me, you know, a 20% off depending on what the items are, in Home Depot. Now anybody has veterans benefits for Lowe's or Home Depot, they're limited on what it goes for. Like, if I was building a house and I wanna spend $40,000 on lumber, I'm not getting 20% off that. They're they're not doing that. I'm like, I'm a load of crap. Veterans always get stiffed.
Anyway, I'll stop brambling.
[05:13:13] Unknown:
Buy the lumber one two by four at a time.
[05:13:17] Unknown:
Right. But there's no discount on lumber anyway.
[05:13:22] Unknown:
Right. I have a question. We've heard, in the past that, a way to buy things without them being registered and without, the state or powers that be having, hooks in it is to on your bill of sale, that it was sold for $21 in silver plus other valuable consideration. Does that work?
[05:13:58] Unknown:
Okay. We're talking about on on the on the deed or on the or the house? House, whatever. On the house thing, yes. But that falls under, if I recall, the Seventh Amendment trial, which would mean anything under a value of a variety of $21 or more has to be done in common law. So if you wanna lock yourself into that, that's where this $21 comes in. That's why it's $21. It's a constitutional protection. And then like I said earlier, gold, silver, gold particularly, unless I can find elsewhere under equity principles, gold transfers, equitable, and legal title. You want both. But like I said with the house, obviously, you don't have the title at the table. Now they used to do that.
So that technically was valid at the time. And then, obviously, cars are are what I said they were because they have to create the other title, the fictitious one when they register to the state. So, obviously, when you buy the car and, obviously, it only really works if you're paying cash or you take a private loan. Let's say you go to Navy Federal, car, it's $50. They'll just give you the check for $50, then you literally just buy the car straight out. Because under their terms and conditions, which I think still stands, this is how you get a free car, folks, to an extent, because they give you the check-in their little agreement. It says you promise to something to the fact that you promise to sign title over, so we can be put as a lien online, whatever it is, on the document.
But, okay, you go to the dealership. You ask for their MCO slash MSO, and you make that a very poignant caveat. If they do not agree to it, I'd have it in writing, have something in writing. Before you even do the deal, let them have the check anyway. You make sure you see that bad boy on the table at the signing. I would make sure in my personal view of it, because some dealerships don't wanna give that up. Not because they really know what's going on. It's because they have a third party contract with the state. And they're also bonded by the state DMV, by the way, through that contract.
So not to get off too much on the trails of that, but but when you put up a lawsuit for fraud, let's say, or mismanagement of information, you know, without calling it fraud, but calling it fraud, nothing was disclosed to a point of blah blah blah, you can put a claim on that bond. Oh, they're gonna hate that, but you can you can put a claim on that. That's one of the things you can do. But like I said, you get the car. It's $50,000. Let's say you you get the you get the Mustang or whatever it is. You get that wonderful absolute title.
I I really hate to call it title, but let's just go for for sake of understanding here. And then when you deal with you can deal with the loan separately. Since there's no lien on it, they would have to go through the standards of taking you to court to claim, you know, whatever, and you faulted on a personal loan, not a car loan. Because, again, there's no there's no lien. Their their name's not on it. Now, obviously, that puts you in a different world of trouble if you wanna go down that route. But when I say kind of a free car net sense where, okay, you don't have to worry about a repo man. It's yours. You just have to deal with the consequences on the other side of it because you took out a private loan with such and such bank or whatever.
So in that way, it's free ish. In regards to valuable consideration, this yeah. That's typically found on a, on a deed for a house. But you're supposed to if you look at old books I don't have the example in front of me, but it's in one of our books here. Back in the day, they used to say valuable consideration, but before, you had the option to put in gold or silver. Now, of course, they changed those documents legally because they don't want you to have full ownership, if you will, of the property or the transfer of the full property. Okay. You're saying something?
[05:18:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Are you familiar with Brandon Joe Williams?
[05:18:32] Unknown:
Yes. I'm very well of
[05:18:35] Unknown:
very aware of him. Alright. Now okay. I'm not promoting him or anything like that, but he has floated a process where, a number of people have actually gotten free cards through discharging the debt, discharging the note.
[05:18:53] Unknown:
Are you familiar with that? Yeah. I I I've seen I've seen his screw me course or whatever two point o. There's a three point o coming out. His car thing was something a little different under under the it would say pay to the order of your own name. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. Technically, that's right when people know about the treasury check that I'm talking about if you're doing a typical loan. But I've been following that for the last year. I really haven't heard anybody successfully coming to him yet. I'm not saying he's lying because he himself in one or two posts even asked for an update because these people that were doing it, the public, the folks that were following each of these folks on his own page were like were like, well, what's the results? Where are we at? It's six months? It's eight months?
I mean, good news or no news is good news because we're also not hearing people saying, well, I got repoed or I gotta go to court. So Right. I can't speak beyond what I just said because I'm following the public information. Yes. I I I can contact him if need be. We're not buddy buddies or anything like that, but, I trade information. I give him information here and there. He he he can do what he wants with it. But just like Joe on previous calls, the the other Joe talked about Brandon who he's known for twenty something years. You know, he he's he's hard headed in a good way and a bad way where he's it's what I believe. That's what it is. You know, kind of thing. It's hard to change his mind. You know, that's just who he is.
Right. So, I can't say what he does works or not, but, that brings up another topic. If anybody has a car right now, you can actually go down to the dealership that you dealt with. I don't hopefully, they have the records assuming, let's say, it's some recent purchase, maybe within the last year because their policies will dictate on how long they keep records. But you want what is called a statement of account. It has one document people do not ask for in regards to having the receipt that you paid for this, and here's the work order. Here's the here's the order, and here's the legal pages we're gonna tell you about.
Fair Debt Collect Practices Act, this and that. You know? It's, like, eight, nine pages long of of your alleged receipts. But if you get the statement of account, you can't ask for it right away. It takes at least three days for the dealership to get it. The statement of account, why it's so important, it will have a photocopy of the treasury check. Let's say your name is John Doe Smith. Well, it'll say, John Doe Smith paid blah blah blah $50,000 to blah blah blah. That right there is enough evidence to take down to the DMV or the BMV, depending on what state you're in, and do what they call a challenge the title.
In their system, there's going to be a fake lien. They know this. The person behind the window may not know this. This is more the upper management that there is a notice of electronic lien on said property. But reality, because the bank did not fully do their UCC one and put an actual lien on the vehicle, it doesn't exist technically. But showing that, oh, I, John Doe Smith, paid such and such $50,000. Here's the evidence of it. Technically, they could take off the so called lien electronically speaking, which is usually done within the first twenty one days. There's twenty one day rule behind that. And they'll release the title to you.
Now, technically, once you get the title officially in the mail, normally, they don't print it off there. I don't know if they've changed that law or rule or whatever. Maybe they haven't, if they haven't, unlike car tags, which can be printed right on the spot. Once you hold that title, legal title, not equitable because, again, you signed off the MCO to them blah blah blah, they really can't do much to come collect you because their name is not in the lien spot on the on the title, and you have it. And you also prove to the folks at the counter, oh, I'm challenging the lien.
I paid for it. Here it is. Here's the evidence, and give me the lien. I've heard that working for some folks, but I only say some folks because it's usually hard to get the, statement of account piece of paper. Some dealerships, I think, they know what it is, and they don't want to give it to you. But that is another way of getting your car released is challenge the lien via that process that I just went over. Okay.
[05:24:01] Unknown:
Now can that go bad if, you're challenging the lien and get the lien released, and let's say you still owe money on the on whatever vehicle it is, can that go bad for you particularly with, business relationship with your lender or whatever?
[05:24:27] Unknown:
Yes and no. I mean, they can't deny extension of your own credit. But, again, who you're dealing with at the bank does not know that. They're not supposed to. It's the whole compartmentalization thing. You have to know who you're talking to. But the thing is, remember, just like in the house okay. Oh, here's showing the mortgage. Okay. Well, that's the collateral. Right? Well, what they want the collateral to be is the car. But, again, just like the mortgage, the collateral is the note. It was never ever the house. The house is the perks, the prize, the winner winner chicken dinner, the car is the same thing. But you having legal title to it because they are now quote, unquote off the title as a lienholder, there's nothing in their mind securing that note even though they already know what hearing the noise. But, again, you're not supposed to know about it is the note. But since the car is off the hook, there there's nothing really they can collect, because they know they can't collect. They're they're they're they can't take what's most valuable because you have both. You have you have the car and you have a legal title.
Getting the MSO is another thing. There there are ways of trying to reproduce it or get it legally, but that's a pain in the ass. Therefore, you could use the laws of merger and then merge the titles, which Joe, I think, you know, I kinda covered or mentioned it when he was, not the last call, but the other call from the two Mondays ago. Because then once you once you have equitable and legal title, it's it's done. It's yours. And then throw that bad boy into a truck and let the truck handle it. Oh, the the other thing you can do is put UCC one put a mechanic oh, you can also do, let me back up. You should have UCC ones on your property, the house, the correct numbers in the debtor's box.
And then your house I mean, not your house. You put a lien on the VIN number of the vehicle, not the account number of the note or anything like that. It's the VIN. Because just like on the MSO and the legal title, color of title, It's based on the VIN number because that's the traceable part, yada yada yada. But another way of releasing the title off the vehicle, you have to have a very trusted person to do this, though. Otherwise, they can steal it from you. But you put a mechanic's lien on the VIN number of the vehicle for blah blah blah services blah blah blah. Depending on the state, sometimes it's thirty days, sixty, or ninety days.
Once that time is up, because the bank knows, okay. That type of lien, they cannot have removed. Doesn't matter about their UCC one or their fake one. Because, again, like I said earlier, you can't clean under law, current law or supposed law, statutes. It says only a man, woman, basically a living, sentient being can put one on and take one off. Since they can't move it, do anything with it, the b, the the DMV, BMV would release the lien to, I mean, release the title to the said person who put the mechanics lien on. It would then be retitled in that person's name, then that person who put the lien on would have to put it and sell it back to you free, obviously, or you'd pay them for putting the lien on and doing it for you. You know, you could do that side business. Let's say $400 or $500 or whatever.
They give it back to you. You go back and get a a no updated color of title with your name on it. So because all the spaces on the back are pretty much all written out. I think there's four pages only on there. And then you would have the title of car again. And again, okay. Now I have the collateral. What are they gonna do? Because, you you won. You were to give them security, in the notes. The note was I mean, at that point, you could yeah. If they wanted to try to collect, you could kinda scare them by releasing that information you're not supposed to know about. You're like, well, no. I have I have the car, which was never collateral to begin with. You know and I know that the collateral was the note.
You put forth nothing out consideration up for the transfer and sale and buy of this note. I have legal title now to this automobile. Free and clear of any liens, you have pretty much no standing here. You know, you put it in a nice legal terms or whatever and kinda scare them and give them a little peek on what information you know about it because you're not supposed to know about that. And then, of course, they're not gonna probably not gonna wanna take you to court and put out what you did because other people, if they know how to read documents and whatever from court case, would be like, oh, okay. I'm gonna reproduce it. And then if it gets out in the public, too much even though here I am putting it out there, they'll change in their system with some policy. Oh, we can't do that Even the law says I can't. You know?
Like, you were somebody or George or was George mentioning with the, with the ship stuff. Most of the stuff, I'm more than sure it's still pertinent today, but the way you do it definitely probably has changed. So like in his tapes and his books where he states it in so many words, yeah, you may have a good 80% of things, but the 20% you need, and that's the stuff they keep changing or how how they apply. But we don't recognize it. Now you gotta reword in a way where you're saying the same thing or something to that effect and getting the same effect, just a different way of of attacking it, if you will. So, anyway, mechanics lien can get rid of it challenging the lien via the statement of comp, again, which would have a treasury check or a photocopy of it saying you paid 7¢ $50,000 blah blah blah.
I'm proving that I paid for it. Done. Give me the damn car.
[05:30:57] Unknown:
Jimmy? Yeah. And Ron Gibson used to stay on land that there's a lien on,
[05:31:06] Unknown:
all of it. Yep. There is. So And we've had we've had people write to the correct department or allegedly, and they never give us that information as in, okay. Well, under the freedom of such and such or the the the other, information act, I forget what it's called, but there's two different ones that you can file information for. And we've never gotten what we wanted because then we could use that as leverage and basically pay off the debt or the alleged lien, remove the lien, take it down and prove it down approve it to the local, property tax folks and the, the county treasurer or whoever's in that position to prove. Okay. There there's nothing to collect. It's done.
But unless you got somebody who's done it, you know, I'd I'd like to know, you know, where that's at too, but that's my that's my take currently.
[05:31:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, Gibson said you you contact and find out how much it is and you pay them. That's just bullshit, you know, as far as I'm concerned.
[05:32:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I can see where it's bullshit because, like I just said, it's like, well, I can say it and ask for it unless it's produced, and they're willing to put that out there, which is, that that I highly doubt they would want to for obvious reasons, and say, okay. Well, yeah, I'm gonna pay for it. So so so in a way, I I I can see both ways. We wanna say it's legal, lawful, whatever in our head, but on the other side, since I don't have physical evidence, even I'm preaching it or or thinking about it in a book, right, that it exists or doesn't exist. Or maybe they read it in some congressional record. That's probably where it came from or something.
Other than that, beyond that kind of evidence, yeah, I I would agree it's okay. Well, nobody ever produced it. But then again, it doesn't always mean it doesn't exist. It's like, okay. I haven't seen God, but yet I believe in God, you know, things like that. Now that's a far stretch, but you you get what I'm saying.
[05:33:02] Unknown:
Okay. I gotta go. Thanks.
[05:33:19] Unknown:
Can I guess he left?
[05:33:22] Unknown:
Yeah. If I can read this is one take on what is happening. I'm kinda curious as you're all opinion.
[05:33:34] Unknown:
The this has to do
[05:33:38] Unknown:
kinda move moving out, you know, kinda like a view from so called space. That 800 generals meeting that, I grabbed my other phone that has the Telegram post that, that Boris did on that. And I'm kinda curious what your I mean, I I don't know what your opinion is of the whole, DK thing, but I know,
[05:34:05] Unknown:
like, that Well
[05:34:06] Unknown:
Just as that was happening, the, the, Charlie, who's that guy that did cocaine supposedly, that actor? Few men and the kids or something. Charlie Sheen was on with Joe Rogan said talking about the Kennedy assassination. But, but, yeah, this is what he wrote, as a post. And he's he's basically shut down posting on the, the refining the trim tab, but he so he doesn't post that often, but all the resources are still on there. But he says, let's take a look at some recent events. September 30, during the speech to the 800 plus generals and admirals, Trump handed out their marching orders, quote, and provided rules and engagement, quote, equals preparing for martial laws equals must be done to, quote, flip the system back to its constitutional and divine law providence guidance roots, I e, declaration. All given reminders to, quote, remember their oaths and that quote the world is watching. 10/01/2025, government shutdown, reboot underway.
Also, the delivery of the equity that promised, by the 1783 Treaty of Paris was completed by the church of Philadelphia by the anointed minister and apostle. The treaty only granted legal title, promise to deliver, but the, quote, equitable title was retained by a crown slash Vatican until recently. Refer to Trump visiting to the Vatican where Melania and Ivanka Trump were dressed in funeral attire. Vance later visited on the pope on his deathbed, quote, to inform him, quote, game over. 10/11/2025, martial law commences, and everything I, meaning bars, have attempted to show, explain to people will be a full force and effect. LibriCo equals trust slash public administration.
11/10/2025, done in thirty days. Cleanup of all government offices, local, state, federal, should be done with JAG officers taking over the courts until those who take loyalty oaths to the people and nation can be put into place. This will pave the way for the church of Philadelphia to take its place as a, quote, lawful civil authority. And on July 4, true independence of the nation will occur as the birth of a new nation will be completed. So that's kind of his prophecy.
[05:36:17] Unknown:
Are you open?
[05:36:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I I read that whole thing. Some of the dates are a little off, but well, I can't want September, October. Nope. Nope. That dates are in order. Well, one thing you gotta figure out, okay, if you're doing something crazy, whether especially if it's bad, you don't normally tell in this sense how we did it. Oh, I'm requesting 800 generals, 600 generals, or whatever, to come meet because as far as I don't know, at least publicly spoken, that's never happened. So that's kind of a red flag, could be good, could be bad. And getting their marching orders or trying to figure out, okay. I'll be 800 now. I got you in a room. Now you can't go anywhere. Okay. Here are all the, unsealed warrants for 400 of you bastards, are being arrested today. Surprise. You can't go anywhere. You're all here in one room. Guess what? Off you go. That's a possibility.
I don't know. But that's if if you wanna get them all and make it easy for them, get them all in one room. That reminds me of a story that the so called FBI did back in, I think, in the nineties. There were three or four people on the most wanted list at the time and another fifty, sixty that had warrants out, and they got them all gathered because they won supposed Indian tickets or whatever to some football game. They got them all in this coliseum. They even dressed up as this and that. Made it look like it was some huge bank because they're all getting free tickets and free bus ride and whatever.
And they they all entrapped them and said, oh, you're all under arrest for this, this, this, this, and that. And where's John? And where's this? I mean, it was I was I was like, okay. This is a good sting. So that's an idea that I have on that. Now if that idea doesn't float, then I can kinda buy the story that was posted. But then again, okay. How long have you been waiting and watching the quote, unquote movie? Whether it's Q activated or whatever the hell, JFK from back in the day, who know who the hell knows. Right? So it's not that I don't wanna believe it. It's like, okay. You've been saying it forever and ever. It's like date setting. Date setting, the the the when's the date? It's never come. Now now you've gotten us hanging by a thread and said, okay. Well, let's say eventually it does happen kind of the way Q says or whoever the hell. Right?
At that point, it's gonna be like, well, it's the boy who cried wolf. He said it to me times and when it was when it was real, we we aren't as excited or or ready for it as we were when it was kinda okay. We'll wait a year. We'll wait four years because, okay, he takes time and here we are, you know, x amount of years for the four, eight, twelve, you know, this and that. It's like, okay. Where is it? Or, supposedly, when something was signed in in in Clinton's time, and here we are thirty five years later, whatever. We're still sitting here. We're like, I'll talk and no walk, and we also have to remember the system is loaded the way they have it.
Whether you want Trump or not or Biden or whoever the hell is in office, they're all selected. They're not elected. None of them. Hell, that that even goes probably for congress and and all the low ones. I would be surprised your PTA board is not set up. Oh, you're working for Nancy? I wonder. Yeah. Right. Uh-huh. Martial law. In that sense Yeah. To me, it sounds like a Nasara deal. Doesn't it kinda sound like Nasara deal? These kind of talk Well, yeah, the whole story here that that was read out loud, it it does make sense if you know the other part of the story with, okay, huge, a star, and a star 35 back. Plus, it can go even further back to back to the Kennedy's, this and that, but, you know, it's the whole subterfuge. Oh, it takes time. Oh, this this thing has been working since, Kennedy and Kennedy's Bouvier so and so and so and so is alive. And I'm like, wouldn't he be, like, a 105? Yeah. I doubt it. I I mean, it's possible if you wanna still throw in some more q okay. Which med bed was he in? Did he get reverse aging back to late age 30? Okay. Well, then if that was all true, then, yes. I could buy that ten days of live at a 105, but it doesn't look a 105. Now it looks 50 or or whatever the case. But, you know, that's a long stretch.
So some of this is like, yeah. Okay. Wishful thinking. But then again, if it does happen like this, okay, this also, I guess, could line up in the bible if I wanna take it that route because okay. The Jews are looking for the Messiah. What better way to bring in a Messiah if somebody, hypothetically, aside from signing the tree peace treaty for seven years, is how do I become the greatest living president, monarchy, whatever highest title you can think of that means I'm the shit than to bring back any way, let's say, starting with America or maybe some other country with, I'm the greatest.
We took down the swamp. We did this, and now I'm God or whatever. And, like, the Jews have a coin with Cyrus on on a coin, but it it's Trump's face. You you know? And you probably heard of the about that when, when he was in his first term. I was like, okay. Well, there's a sign there. Something something's wrong there. I'm not fully suggesting that he's the antichrist, but if we were to do something this great and people are still blind and and thinking it's so great, not wondering and understanding, putting all the puzzle pieces together, I'm like, okay. Well, this this seems so odd because it's never been done before. Not saying it can't be done, but it can only be done by one man.
That's Jesus. God in the flesh coming down, bring his kingdom down, this, that, and the other, and everybody knows the rest of the story and revelation. So I'm more looking forward to where okay. If it happens, okay. It's really a bad but good thing. Could be part of the big deception too. You know, the Bible talks about, for tribulation. Fine. If they wanna be deceived, God's like, okay. Fine. I'm a let you be deceived. Probably the biggest deception you've ever seen, and you're gonna most people are gonna fall for it. And this could be one of them where they're putting him on the pedestal like he's the king of the world. I mean, holy moly.
So that's my take. Yeah. It's wishful thinking. Sounds great. I wouldn't mind it happening if it was actually good for humanity, which when the hell was that ever done since Cain and Abel. Right? Never. So that's my yeah.
[05:43:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I had to go for a phone call, so I missed a few minutes. But, I wanted to end my comment on on Ron Gibson. He also said that you could go ahead and sue the title company for not disclosing this lien, right, when you're trying to get your land patent. And, I told that to my, my title officer guy. He's he's run the oldest title company in the state of California. He's been in the business for over forty years, and he says, no. It's in there. It's been disclosed. You can't sue us.
[05:43:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I heard that too.
[05:43:49] Unknown:
Have you ever read a complete one and see if you see wording in there like that?
[05:43:55] Unknown:
In which document?
[05:43:57] Unknown:
A title document when you're buying a home. They're huge.
[05:44:04] Unknown:
Yeah. No. No. I have it. But if it's in there, it's like, okay. Well well, it goes back to what I was saying. It's like, okay. Well, depending on what it is, the the law is is, what, three days to look it over your I I wish it would give you a week because then you could scan your computer, change all the words if you know how to change it right and get away with certain things. Like like, I did that for somebody who was trying to get a a, I think, a line of credit on a credit card. Right? And you had to fill out the old paper form. Right? So I took the paper form. I kept the same font, same color as best as I could with what I had to work with. And I took every little I don't think I saved it, but I probably should have as an example.
But I took every little word that put the benefits on the bank and the power in the bank, and I I flipped it because they flipped it on them, on the person who was signing it. We we almost got away with it until they caught it. They're like, yeah. Okay. We're we're gonna approve you in, like, a day. And I'm like, oh, please do because I was like, I changed this document where there's, like, no power. You can't there there's I I changed it to, like, 0% financing. The beneficiary is her or him. The interest should go to us in a regular check that it can be put in via ACH or a bank, and standard banking. And what I mean by that is if you guys look at your, your so called statements, they have what looks to be a check at the bottom or on the top depending on how they do it, and there's a perforated line that says, you don't tear here, send in with your payment. Right?
That is called the remittance check. That takes a very special account in order to process. And I didn't wanna deal with that in in this person's or in this bank's information regarding, okay, we we pay. We give your statement on the fifteenth blah blah blah according to such and such law blah blah blah. I'm like, no. That's fine. But you're gonna give us a damn check we can actually do something with, not some oh, we gotta figure out where in the bank and how to catch this this, this so called bill that you give me every month. So I rewrote a whole bunch of that, and I I was feeling really good about it. I was like, fuck. Yeah. Because in court, they would be destroyed.
Open ended credit. They're a potential interest. Maybe I went a little too far, but we got it mailed out. They're about to, I guess, approve her this and that. And then without them really saying, they're like, oh, well, we we can't really approve this at this time. You know, they gave us some generic bullshit. I was like, wow. You guys actually had somebody read this or you sent it through AI, and it didn't match up with what you'd like. Therefore, you didn't accept what what you didn't accept my term. Let's put that away. Because I was like, no. Forget your terms. Your terms are bullshit.
[05:47:04] Unknown:
What blew what blew me away, and I didn't I wish I would have asked him more questions about it. If, as a, running a title company and he's aware of, like, a universal lien, I mean, that's just crazy.
[05:47:20] Unknown:
Well, I would ask him if he knows about it. Like, well, no offense to you and your job, and I and I understand you're you're you're making a living like any living man or woman, but for a minute, can speak to me as Bob or whoever's name is, not Bob the title guy. Well, I was. He's a friend, and and I didn't push him on. But basically What? Son of a bitch. And and get to the bottom of this. That's what I'd be interested in. Where is this where is this magic lead? Let's go get the damn thing.
[05:47:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I should've I should've pressured him a little bit more because he said he he said that what Ron Gibson said is basically true, but it's disclosed in title. So you can't sue the title company for not disclosing it. That's pretty much what he said.
[05:48:07] Unknown:
Yeah. But I I I I I'd add on to that. Okay. Fine. But let's define disclosure.
[05:48:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And what what is the wording? Mention it doesn't mean doesn't mean a a final wall. Well Yeah. I wish I would have pushed him more is my point. You know? Look. Found out a little bit more about it. But
[05:48:27] Unknown:
Well, well, at least that's a good thing. At least he he he listened in title school or whatever. Well, yeah, I'd be interested in that, but I I I don't, I get houses a little different, but I've never had to read or, you know, a huge long pages of of all the shit that you guys signed at the table. But have anybody had anything like it as an example? A real example It's just a small book. Take the names or or whatever. I wanna read it because I might be able to poke out some stuff out of it that normal people can see only because they haven't studied or know what the hell they're looking at. Because some of this legal lease is really hard to understand, and you gotta you you have to know what they're saying in the document, just like on their perspective.
[05:49:18] Unknown:
My note over twenty five years ago was eight and a half by 11 papers. It was about half inch thick, and there were about five places noted in there to sign, roughly, I'd say, from memory. Right. So there's several different sections that you're signing. Who knows what the hell I signed?
[05:49:45] Unknown:
Yeah. You have all my security interests. You have it all.
[05:49:50] Unknown:
Yeah.
[05:49:52] Unknown:
So so my children? What? It's like, well, you you agreed to it. So so so how did we illegally do something?
[05:50:01] Unknown:
Exactly. It's a it's such a scam. Everything's a scam. Pathetic.
[05:50:15] Unknown:
Well, welcome to the world of banking. And like the bible says, he warns about lawyers, bankers, and organized religion.
[05:50:24] Unknown:
Land of the free. You're free to sign anything away that you got, and they make sure you do.
[05:50:38] Unknown:
Well, it's like the constitution where people bring up well, if slavery is slavery, well, yeah, it says involuntary slavery, but nowhere does it say you can't voluntarily slave slave into this contract. So the joke's on you. Learn to read and understand and comprehend what the hell you just read. Right?
[05:51:02] Unknown:
It's like, has has anybody ever read their, cell phone agreement or their with their cell phone provider. Right. It's the same kind of crap. This stuff goes on, like, forever.
[05:51:18] Unknown:
Well, the the crazy thing is when you open applications, like like, some of them recently, whether it's on the PC, Mac, or even on your iPhone, well, we updated the terms and conditions, blah blah blah. And there's no, like, we'll let you in. And if you disagree, click here. We'll send you a link to a form you fill out, and you kinda give us a conditional acceptance, and then we'll go from there. No. It's always no. You're forced to say yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. If you say no, we close down the whole app. Yeah. I know it's I'm like, how is that even legal?
[05:52:00] Unknown:
I wonder how much science is in there too. Like, if you get irradiated to death by our phone, you can't sue us, you know, all that kind of stuff as well.
[05:52:10] Unknown:
Well, did you hear about the folks that are suing Disney, for some deaths or food poisoning of some of somebody's wife? And I forget what circuit court. It's moving up to Supreme Court. But, basically, Disney's argument from the start was, well, because John Doe and his wife or his headband wife has a Disney plus subscription. And then in those terms, in addition, it says in no shape, form, or matter that you can sue us, blahdy blahdy blah. You have to do arbitration blahdy blahdy blah. And I'm like, okay. Well, that's for the app. Right? Where in that contract does it say, if you go to any Disneyland park or Disney World, you it falls under the same contract. No. It doesn't. And that's their whole argument.
And I'm like, wow. The the these companies are so damn crooked. Oh my god. I'm like, no. There's a wrongful death at your park by accident. I'm not saying fully Disney World and Disneyland are out to kill everybody. I'd say that'd be huge bad for business, but, you know, shit happens. But I'm like, I heard you like that contract pertains to Disney plus, does it not? Where in there does it mention Disney World, Disneyland, or any subparks or or or or or or those fancy language about other parts of Disney that are magically included via forked tongue because disclosure, like like you were just saying with the the liens, like, well, how much disclosure? Just just define the extent of what disclosure is. Because now I can throw you in the vague vagueness, vagueness doctrine and say this is too vague for any personal common knowledge to understand. Therefore, you have to throw this out of court. It's moot.
They were not very descriptive enough about saying Disney World, Disneyland, Disney theme parks, Disney rides, Disney this, Disney that under the purview of blah blah blah, this and that. No. Throw it out under the vag of Wegmansnacher. It's too vague. Sorry. Can't get away with that. Sorry. Bye. I mean, that's gonna be my argument. I was assuming the merits of what I just said were what they were. Obviously, there's more to the case, but, generally, that's how I would go at it. Basically, you attack that contract. You attack every little damn word time. You wanna play that game? We're gonna attack every little damn word. Oh, I need a glossary too. We're gonna take all damn day to go every every stinking word in here, and you define what it is.
[05:54:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Most are pretty much all of them. Changing things, you know, if they know that it's an inteision contract, they're not gonna okay. You don't want a loan. See you. That's some other sucker to get. You know? Right. Right. Or or they, They've got a corner on the market, so to speak.
[05:55:03] Unknown:
No. I'm just saying Disney for that example, Disney has gone so far that somehow any agreement attached to Disney or at least this example of Disney plus, magically, it stands to going to parks, getting tickets, or some other some from, out from left field magically is binding. I'm like, you got to be kidding me. You're telling me this is the the the judge is buying this crap? I mean, give give me a new judge that knows contract law and please laugh at this because this ridiculous. Now I'd have to look at I'd have to look at what what was brought in to to really see what the contract is because may maybe it does say Disney parks in in so many words. Maybe it doesn't. If it doesn't, I'm like, again, too vague. Third out. It's too in in ambiguous this that you you throw all these legal terms out, you you know, and and call it a day. I'm like, no.
There is harm. Just because you're right, it doesn't mean you have free rein to kill people. I mean, I know you gotta be that blunt with these people, but it's like, no. You hurt somebody, most likely by accident or by some negligence. You need to make me whole. Yes. You can't bring my wife back to life. I need something else for the emotional support, this, that, or or or the secondary damages, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, go from there. But, no, Disney, Ming, and its infinite wisdom trillion billionaire. Oh, no. We can't we can't do that. I'm like, you think companies this is when there's a death or like a carnival or whatever. Oh, that's right. Throw it under the rug right away. Or, like, or you hear people with faulty such and such in a car, killed so and so. Oh, no. We can't have that out in the news. How much does the family want? Okay. They want 10,000,000. Okay. We'll give them 5. Go away and shut up and never hear about it again.
And for Disney Parks, I mean, obviously, they they didn't go that route, but what's the 3,000,000 now? I'm not saying that her her life wasn't worth it. It's just this is ridiculous. You shouldn't have to go this far to defend this. You did wrong accidentally. Fix it.
[05:57:15] Unknown:
Have you ever heard about a guy by the name of Philip Arthur Thompson?
[05:57:21] Unknown:
Philip Arthur Thompson. I might have.
[05:57:25] Unknown:
How about Wayne Gacy? Yeah. Thompson's probably killed way more people than Gacy, but because he was working for the FBI, the CIA, and himself making money whenever he wanted, He killed scores of people. And it was so bad that the San Francisco police department complained about it in the papers that they were putting this guy in jail, and he was out the next day for murders and things like that. But he was protected. Just how sick this system is. You know? They got people like that running around out there working for them, and it's just fine. They can do whatever they want until they run out of time, and then they let them get incarcerated and throw away the key.
[05:58:19] Unknown:
Okay.
[05:58:21] Unknown:
Yeah. It's just it's amazing that
[05:58:24] Unknown:
how sick this system is. Well, it's not what you know. It's who you know. I mean, it's like I was saying earlier, people getting where they've gotten today. I I don't know anybody other than Jesus or God himself on his own specific merits or her own merits have gotten where they've gotten today without extensive amounts of help, whether it's from physical people or demonic presence or or whatever. Like, some people have supposed psychic powers, and they somehow use them and got them partly the way where they're done. But, it's who you know.
[05:59:02] Unknown:
Yeah. They they they it was a psychological channel about killers, and they said some kill for profit, some kill for the the thrill of killing, and then there was and then there was another group that are just plain psychopathic, and he says this this guy, was was all three. He killed people for fun. He killed people for profit, you know, and he killed people because he was a psychopath. It, you know, I mean, just and he's an arm of our so called justice system. Right? Right. He was involved in the contra fair as well. He who knows if he didn't kill, the Mercury News reporter?
What was his name? Who was doing that report? Who exposed it on the Mercury News? Forget his name, but he he committed suicide. Yeah.
[06:00:10] Unknown:
Calling a typical yep. If it's not the plane ride, if it's not the boat ride, a helicopter up or hanging. I mean, they're getting creative so far over the years with how supposed people, especially superstars or Hollywood, oh, tons of drug overdose or the bathtub or that was the same MO. There there there's nothing new like, oh, he blew himself up with a grenade. You know? Or
[06:00:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Like Marilyn Monroe, for instance, when he's talking Hollywood.
[06:00:41] Unknown:
Jumped off the sign. Yeah. Right. I'm pretty sure he well, it's probably alive under witness protection if you go with that old two things. But, I mean, some of it's so blatantly obvious. I'm like, hello, Whitney and the daughter in a bathtub. I mean, Tom Ott. Hello. Ding, ding, ding, ding, or Aaron Carter. Oh oh, he he he drowned in a bathtub. Bullshit. Bullshit. Or John Denver. Oh, I'm one day, I don't know how to fly a plane. Oh oh, be because I couldn't reach the lever to switch gas tanks. I mean, that was their story. I'm like, really? I'm pretty sure the guy knew how to fly a plane. I mean, I'm not saying shit can't happen. Of course, it can. But, of course, it's, again, the typical MOs. Or or, like, let let's switch it up with Kobe. Oh, magically, the helicopter. Oh, okay. Right. It's like, who sacrificed to? Because, as you know, you study, you know, somebody gets out with okay. Well, in order to get to the next level, now you're at the level where you gotta sacrifice somebody. Usually, it's somebody close or they'll do it for you.
Like, I said, the city is sacrificed with his with with his mother, but, you know, it is what it is. Okay. I was looking up Tom Shop books. The one I was trying to think that had, like, a matrix cover on it was Cracking the Code, first, second, and third edition, America's Hope, to cancel bank loans without going to court, volume one, volume two, the American voters versus the banking system and technical guide to America's Hope, volume two. And then,
[06:02:35] Unknown:
let's see here.
[06:02:38] Unknown:
I think there's one or two other books he had. Well, those are the current ones on Amazon. One of his most famous was Cracking the Code third edition. I don't remember if this is the one that talks about UCC one. There was another book that he wrote or or or if it's this book where it talks about the UCC one and putting a lien on the name, kind of the sovereign stuff, but, basically, copyright the name at the state level, the federal level, possibly the county level, somehow and use it in court and say, okay. Under title 15, using copywritten material, you can't put my name on any documents, period, without compensation, blahdy blahdy blah.
And in theory, I'm like, okay. That kinda works. I I can understand that if you can somehow prove copyright over the name. But it's like, well, what name are you trying to copyright? Because it's like, who else has John Doe Smith? Right? Or is it the all caps name you're trying to copyright, or is it name your mother gave you? I mean, I'm like, how are you really trademarking that? But yet, obviously, people have gotten trademarks and registered whatever in service marks on on the name. I think one of the examples that was copywritten to very far extent was, like, the use of Michael Jordan's name, you know, specifically for Nike purposes or whatever. And, allegedly, there's a story where he can't get tickets because of how his name is used as product placement, this, that, and the other, and Air Jordan's part of the whole copyright thing. So, basically, he could speed down the road, get pulled over.
The cop knows well enough he can't write his name down on there or do anything with him because of that. And I guess before that was a big deal, supposedly happened, went to, his lawyers went to court and argued that copywritten thing in. It's gonna cost you more than this $50 ticket. You know, they didn't talk about the bonds or anything, but, and that you had to pretty much stop using the name because copywritten without proper licensing and usage, you can't use it. So in that sense, I could see that working, but I've have yet to hear anybody who did the whole federal copyrights registered with the r and c next to their name and probably the s for service, and even at the state level and then go win any court case using that argument.
Maybe it has and maybe it's been closed, or sealed or whatever. So that's also a possibility, but nothing I've heard in the public yet. Yeah. And I've heard people getting their copywritings and whatever. I'm like, okay. Anyway, his books are good if you wanna read them. Just keep in mind when they were written. And I'm pretty sure he suggests not to go run out and use them because you're you're probably gonna lose because you don't have the rest of the information that he didn't put on all his stuff for for obvious.
[06:06:25] Unknown:
Engie bastard.
[06:06:29] Unknown:
Well, he's protecting his intellectual property as as you will or knowledge that he has because he already knew people who know a lot and try to make it their own and become the next professional Tom Shaw when they have no business doing it. I mean, people have done it. I've seen people I mean, just look at TikTok. How many people talk about certain topics kinda like what I'm talking about or or on those lines, and it's like, okay. Well, I I kinda know where you got that information. It just kinda came off to the public, you know, let's say, three weeks ago, and you come on here like you're the know it all. I'm like, okay. Well, good luck. And people trying to apply that, especially if they haven't done studies and, you know, it sounds good to the ears, but do they understand what the hell you're talking about?
Now I do take I do give people credit who do come on before they start yapping. It's like, okay. Well, here's the disclaimer. You know, I don't promise this or this. My will and intent here is not to mislead or misconstrue the information. Do your due diligence. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not an attorney. If you need one, go hire one. You know, I'm not your attorney. You know, I'm not your legal advocate or whatever or ADA advocate, this, that, and the other. For informational purposes only, it's TikTok do not ban.
[06:08:12] Unknown:
Okay. Well, seeing as the stream's been up for six hours now, gonna take it down. I mean, you guys were talking about things I decided to leave it up.
[06:08:23] Unknown:
Don't do it.
[06:08:25] Unknown:
What do you mean don't do it? This is the longest stream I've ever had, for crying out loud. The damn stream has actually been going for six hours thirteen minutes and thirty six seconds. It is time to put it to bed. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, albeit not not the most significant portion. I mean, Radio Ranch was only the first two hours. Good grief. And, today today's special guest was Brent Allen Winters. He's not a guest. He's a cohost for crying out loud. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That is the matrixd0cs.com.
Go there. Go there. You will find links to the live radio stream, links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show, downloadables, exhibits, interviews, books. You name it. You'll find it there. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network saying bye bye and sayonara. Thanks for joining us. We'll catch you right back here tomorrow for the Sabado edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[06:09:51] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy.
[00:02:13] Unknown:
As as would we as the world changes, who would like to see it back in the other direction a bit? We try here at the Radio Ranch, and it is the Friday edition. That means my, cohost, mister Winters, who is generally, Morning, Brent. Brent is with us right there. Today for twelve years or more or something. Long time. If you've never heard of Brent before, you'll you'll be pleased, I believe. Anyway, it's the, third of, the potentially wicked month of October. And, Roger Sales, Brent Winter, and we have, mister Paul Beener there who oversees all bunch of other folks that help us get the message out, and we'd like to give them proper due and credits. So if you would, mister Beaner, please.
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We're doing the creds thing. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. That is our, flagship station. We're also on radiosoapbox.com. That is brought to us by Paul, our buddy across the, pond, as it were. Paul English live yesterday, great show. Check out Paul English live on Rumble. Yesterday's program was a whole lot of fun. We are also on Global Voice Radio Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. We are on Rumble. That is rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. That will get you to that channel. And we're also on the NET family of broadcast services, chromenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, stream life.tube, and one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago.
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There you go. You can also find And and join occasionally. You might jump right in the middle of a three ring circus. You never know around here.
[00:04:20] Unknown:
Hey, Brent. Yesterday,
[00:04:21] Unknown:
our, our Yom Kippur was a little bit disrupted. How was yours?
[00:04:26] Unknown:
Your your what was disrupted? Our Yom Kippur. Oh, Yom Kippur. I didn't I don't even pay attention to when our holiday's come around. So I Well, it was yesterday. Yom Kippur or yeah. That's fine.
[00:04:40] Unknown:
Pay attention, but I yes. Well, no. That you know, that is such a wonderful example to talk to folks about these people, our enemies, because it is the it's the highest holy day on the Jewish calendar. You got two. The other one was about two weeks ago called Rosh Hashanah. That's the Jewish New Year. This is Yom Kippur, the day of atonement. Now do you know about this? Bree, you may not know about this. What? The day of atonement, you mean? Yes. Or what's been done to it? Well, I know some things about it, but I suspect I I probably don't know what you're gonna tell me because you think it's important. I I'm telling this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It is important, man. They pay big money to get in those synagogues. If you're not a member of the synagogue already in a contractual agreement with the rabbi, is the the the seats are hundreds of dollars for anybody, any Jew off the street to just walk in.
As I said, it's the highest holy day. I'm just gonna learn a lot and understand it a lot myself, of the Jewish, calendar, and it's the day of atonement. Now up until, I think, around Sabotage v, around 1666 in that era there. He and he was the guy that declared himself to be the Jewish Messiah. K? Uh-huh. And all all of that stuff is really the basis behind Zionism today. These are conclusions I've come to. Uh-huh. But this day of atonement is really special because in that time, you they say at the first of the ceremony, they say an oath called the the Konidre oath.
You've probably heard of that. Right? Uh-huh. Okay. And that absolves them initially of all the lies, stealing, thieving they've done the previous year. Okay. But it sabotage v. They switched it to the upcoming year. Uh-huh. And so now they're like Jane little James Bonds with these licenses to lie, cheat, and steal. Uh-huh. Now incorporate that in over to the synagogue where we know that Jesus said you always want to find the seats in the synagogue, your whitewashed sepulchers, etcetera. Correct? Uh-huh. Well, it came up in the eleventh circuit when I was in Atlanta. It was an appeal out of Miami.
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Mhmm.
[00:07:03] Unknown:
They go into a synagogue and cut a deal with the rabbi in a contract as to which seat in the synagogue they will be assigned on especially this day, but those two holy days specifically. And it's like bragging rights within the Jewish community. K? Mhmm. Which seat do you sit in? So here, you've got this congregant of these people with these ideals and this background and these philosophies and concepts, and you have them take an oath that they can literally lie, cheat, and steal the rest of the upcoming year. So everybody that's sitting in one of the bad numbered seats can look up there. Boy, if I can if I can lie, cheat, and steal a little bit, I maybe I can, get that Roth child seat next year. Mhmm. Mhmm. So it's all designed internally for them to lie, cheat, and steal with impunity.
[00:07:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Uh-huh. I get it. All the all of the Babylonian religion is the same. It always always, and that's all of them, justify lying, cheating, stealing. That's why Jesus Christ, I take it, said to the Pharisees of his day, you covet the highest seats in the synagogue. That's just what you're talking about. This stuff is right on right on point at every everything in the New Testament through the gospels and the epistles, every word, every phrase is a direct refutation or an indirect refutation, refuting of some element of Babylonians' Judaism. Yep. And all Judaism is Babylonian. I have people say to me often, well, but, Brent, but, Brent, what about the the true religion of Judaism? I said there is none.
There's worship of God. It was never called Judaism. By by God, never called it that. And so, then you have the after the Babylonian captivity of God's people, they came back with this religion. And it it's the bat today, the Babylonian Talmud. I'll tell you honestly. Honestly, of course, I don't wanna tell Aphiab. Why would I say that? Unless I was lying the other time to talking. But I I try to stay away from the particulars of Babylonian Judaism. And for this reason, Paul the Apostle was deeper into it than as anybody could be than any man probably ever lived. He was a student of Gamaliel, the great venerated Babylonian rabbi.
And Paul was one of his yellow haired boys. And he was the upcoming fella in the business. He was making money, had girls, probably had boys too. He doesn't say. He just said, oh, I count all of that. All of my academic degrees of learning, that's Babylonian degrees of learning are always Babylonian. The the universities of the world are the product of Babylonianism. And he had all that. He said and he had all the all the sex he wanted, all the drugs, all the booze, all the land, all the prestige. He had it all. He was fully devoted, believed, like charismatic believe today, that if you're worshiping God and doing what he wants, he'll give you lots of money. They had that. He had that too. He had everything. And then he said, I counted all, all of that as human feces. I won't use the word he used, but it means, what, scoots out of your body at the posterior end.
And he's and he uses uses the Greek word, has to do with scudding, to describe all of that. And in all of his description and other than say that about it, he never mentioned it except to say the truth in opposition to all of it. He wouldn't mention it. And if he doesn't wanna talk about it and thinks it ought to be talked about, I figure, well, anything that I know that's false, that I learned that's false is always Babylonian. It's same thing as Judaism. The church is filled with it today and has been always creeping in.
So I try not to talk about it except to say the truth, but every element of truth you say from the revelation of God, that means the Bible, the written word of God, the 66 books. No, not the King James with the extra apocryphal books, not the Roman version of the Latin Vulgate with the extra apocryphal book. No. No. We're talking the Protestant Bible. And all this talk about, oh, they forgot books. They accept no. It's not true. Never happened. Oh, that Constantine chose the books during no. That never happened either. Not in the history of Christianity. Is there any document that says these are the books of the Bible? Not in the history of True. Constantine.
Up until we get to the reformation, they struggled over it again. They struggled. All of them did. They're well known, some of them. And they applied tests to the writings that Rome had put forth and other writings. And they said no to this and yes to that. And it was quite a struggle, by the way. It's quite a struggle for a long time. But in the end, what happened was these are the books that are being universally, that means across the board, Catholic, Catholic, not Roman, Catholic. There's a difference. As a matter of fact, those are terms that cancel each other out. They're oxymorons.
To put them together is absurd. Roman Catholic. No. No. No. Something that's Catholic is not limited. That's what the word means. It's a Latin word. But to put Roman with it limits it to Rome and the priesthood, and that's not what the word means. But it doesn't mean everything or everybody. It means go ahead. Go ahead. Technically, it's an oxymoron in that form. Oh, it is an oxymoron. And I'm not the first one to say that. People have been saying that long before the reformation. And, of course, during the reformation, it was pointed out over and over again. This is silliness. That's the English word for absurd, by the way. Silly. So they quit using it, but they didn't quit using the word Catholic. Why? Because that's biblical, even though it's a Latin word, it is biblical. It's called the church at large.
God's church, I know people complain about that too. Ekklesia sapini, that's the word for a sapini. You can't be a part of God's people unless he subpoenas you. And if he subpoenas you, of course, that's the word for a subpoena in the Roman system. Ecclesia. If he subpoenas you, then that means under pain of penalty. If you don't respond, he'll make you respond. You know, you can get a subpoena from a court. A friend over in Clay County got a subpoena. He was milking cows, and he was selling his milk raw, bringing it to the farmer's market in Terre Haute. And he put right on the cow and jugs, not for human consumption.
Well, that worked for a long time. You know? If you put it right on there as a warning, don't drink this stuff. You know? Of course, people I bought it and drunk it myself, a lot of it. Cheese too. But finally, the the feds got after him, and they talked to state state to get to getting after him. So the judge subpoenaed him. And he thought, well, I don't I'm not got any court cases. Why would I run-in the town to see a judge? Oh, they sent a sheriff's deputy out there. The sheriff's deputy was son of a fella he went to high school with, and he wasn't nice about it. I thought that was inappropriate, but he was pretty nasty.
Well, I got him in front of the judge, but the judge wasn't nasty. But the judge did say this. Look. All I wanted to do was talk to you. I don't wanna rest your three I just wanted you to come talk to me. We asked you to come, and you didn't come, so we subpoenaed you. Now that's the way Christianity works. There are analogies in the Bible of the new birth. One of them is the reformers call it the general call of God. The general call of God. General, that means it applies to everybody. All men know, says Romans chapter one, of God.
They know of his power. Just looking at the heavens, looking at creation, you know, of his intelligence. You know, that's called the general call of God. It goes to all men. Mhmm. And but it is not a subpoena. When you get the subpoena, you respond or he'll put a whooping on you and he'll drag you into court. And he'll say all I wanna do is talk to you. Well, that's what it did to my friend. The judge said I wanted to talk to you and find out what was going on with the feds and all the baloney that's happening. And I had the power to drag your carcass in here, so I sent the sheriff's deputy out and they drug you in. Well, that's what God does. Ask Paul the apostle. He had letters, giving him authority to go to Damascus.
He had a whole entourage. He was well funded, go to Damascus, steal the property of Christian men and women, throw them in jail, and have some of them killed. He had letters of authority from the Sanhedrin. And on the way up there, he was with his entourage riding on his horse, and he got blasted out of the saddle and landed on the ground face down. And then he saw a bright light, but he couldn't see anything. Everybody else there saw a lot of stuff, but they couldn't see what he saw. And then a voice said, Paul, or his name was Saul at that time, Saul. Saul, why are you persecuting me? And he couldn't see. He didn't know what it was. He said, who art thou? That's the old King James, which means who who are you? And, he said, I am, Christ who you are persecuting.
And what what what what do you want me to do? He got his attention, see. God will do that to you. I remember asking to a guy talk one time, and he worked in a sawmill. And, you know, if you got the log on the carriage in the sawmill, that's the thing that carries it forward through the that great big round buzz saw blade. And you can set the carriage to cut it the way you want, it's thick or thin, whatever. And, he was working on the sawmill and getting the leg the logs set on the carriage. And then the carriage, the man that runs the carriage, he throws a lever, and that slams the clamps up against the log so it can't move.
Well, there was a a piece where the blade had run partially through the end of the log on the on the far end. And, he had his hand on the log and his his middle finger was down in that little groove that the saw blade had made. And when that guy hit the lever and threw that lever and clamped that log that closed that, that, gap that the saw blade had made on his finger and he couldn't get his finger out. And the man running the carriage couldn't see him. And that, of course, the saw screams. Those things scream. You can't shout over them. Right. Yeah. He was shouting and that log was moving toward that blade and his finger was in it. And he said this is the thing that got my attention. He had about thirty seconds to for something to happen. And he said during that time that he was moving from there down toward the blade, he was converted to Christianity, and he entered the preaching ministry.
And and he lost his thing. And he lost his finger in or the end of his finger anyway. Anyway. Wow. Anyway, but didn't make any difference. That's God does stuff like that. And don't think he's not rough about it. He is. If he hasn't I was thinking about all those movies I've seen where the the villain ties the fair maiden to that thing. Yeah. He turns on the saw, you know, that scenario. Yeah. So, yeah, God, if he has to play rough, he will. Don't play with him, friends. If you know and you all know, the Bible says it. I believe it, and I know it's true. From experience, you know that God is That means in Latin, he exists.
He has being, and we live and move as it says in acts and have our being. You wouldn't even be if it weren't for him because everything that you have you derive from him. And being is one of the things that you have. The Bible says you can't even come to God and ask for anything unless you believe that he is. That means that he has been. If you believe that he exists, then you might come to him and ask him for something. And the truth is you do. Now you can come to a point where you sear your conscience by being stupid and denying reality long enough that you'll actually believe he doesn't exist. But there was a time when you did, but if you go the wrong way far enough, yeah, you'll go into la la land and you won't have any way to get out except he tried to rescue you.
That's fact, but recognize as the reformers did. And as the Bible does, there are two callings of God. There is the general calling. Spurgeon said it's the calling that is like sheet lightning. You can see it all over the sky. It never strikes the ground. It's just from cloud to cloud. It's beautiful. It's fascinating. That's what everybody sees. But then Spurgeon using that analogy said, but the specific call of God, the effectual call of God, the subpoena of God is the bolt of lightning that breaks between the joints of the harness and knocks your carcass out of the saddle. That's the subpoena.
That's the specific call. That is the election of God. That is what makes a man a Christian. He's not a Christian just because he sees all the fascination of general revelation in creation. We all know that, but people say to me, well, I go out in the woods or up in the mountains and I worship God. I don't need a church house. You're a dodo. No. You don't need a church house, but that ain't gonna get you to the savior and save you from hell knowing there is a God. That's not it. No. If you acknowledge that, that there is a God from creation and all the wonder of it, then the Bible promises he'll take you to the next level. But he will never take you to the next level until you master or acknowledge the first level. I grew up with a preacher's kid. We were in first grade together.
Came time to go to the second grade, they wouldn't let you go to second grade unless you learned how to read. Well, my brother was a year ahead of me, and he'd bring his reader home, and he'd read it. And he read it so much with my mother, my father, and I was of course, I wanted to go to school. I'd listen. I had the whole thing memorized. It wasn't complicated. It wasn't very long, but I did have it memorized. And so when I was in first grade with the same teacher he had, we only had one, then, I go through that book and I go from page to page and look at the pictures and recite whatever it's supposed to say on the page. They'd have a little sentence of four or five words. You know? Well, I got through first grade and went to second grade on the basis of having that book memorized and not knowing how to read. But Oh. Yeah. Yeah.
Well and and I didn't really think I was doing anything wrong. Well, my friend who lived on the other side of the, White Oak Corner where down there where we lived, he was something else, but he was a preacher's kid. And, he got held back, and he was a year behind me all through school. Well, that's the way God does too. If you don't accept what he gives you at one level, you don't go to the next. And if you don't accept that God exists and you you know it's true, but you deny it, well, he's not gonna take you he's not gonna give you more revelation of himself. And every if he finally gets you to the Bible, there is the specific revelation where the specific call and the bolt of lightning can strike from and to you. That's where it happens, and he promises to do that to his elect.
That's what the Bible says. No. That's not a matter of interpretation. There are some things in the Bible that are ambiguous that you can interpret or say that that this what I'm talking about isn't one of those things. There's a general revelation that goes out to all of the world, and everybody sees it, and they all know God exists. But most people and many people won't accept it, and they don't move to square two. But if you do accept it, God will move you to square two. And as you then become equate acquainted with the Bible, everything you learn in the Bible, if you don't accept it, you don't go to step two.
And that's what the Bible says. When I say to you these things I'm saying, they're biblical. You need to go check them out yourself. But if you don't accept them, if you don't accept them once you see them, then you're not taken to the next level. You just remain stupid, and you don't go any further until you accept it. But here's the good news. God says for his people that are truly born from above his elect, he'll get a bill he'll get them to the point they accept it. Another analogy. I went to boot camp. And when I was in boot camp, they said, you gotta jump in the water.
You can't swim? The order is jump in the water anyway. And we all had to jump in the water, and we had to do it from a tower, and we had to do it a certain way. And there were fellows that didn't know how to swim, and they balked. They balked, and they wouldn't do it. And, there were two kinds of people that that didn't know how to swim that would jump in. The ones that refused to jump in. Do you think they just sent them home? No. No. They didn't send them home. They had to do that particular thing. They'd pull them back. Then they go to another company that was coming in. They'd try it again, and they would stay there, I reckon, for forty years if they had to until they jumped.
Oh. Until they jumped. Had one fella, a great big black fella. He jumped in. He told him I can't swim, but I'm not afraid to jump, but I can't swim. They said, what do you mean you can't swim? Well, I never knew how to swim. And if I do jump in the water, I'm just gonna sink to the bottom, and I won't come up. And but I'll do of course, I'll do what I'm ordered to do. So he'd jump in, and he'd sink to the bottom. I saw this. How that happened? I don't pretty big fella. You know, if you have fat on your body, you float better. He looked like he had enough fat on his body, a layer. An average man, had, his body will be 6%, about 6% fat.
And that's enough to float you if you just relax. But this guy was probably more than that, but he how this works, maybe he had big bones that wouldn't flow. I don't know. But he would go to the bottom, and they'd run a pole down to him, and he'd grab hold and they'd pull him out. And he that over and over and over, and they kept pulling him out. He said, I can't sweat. It's not matter of me not wanting to or being afraid. I just and he trusted them to pull him out. That'd been hard to do. But, they kept moving him back. But I'm making the point by that particular story that god's like that. No. He won't move you ahead till you accept what he has for you. Make it easy for yourself because he's not gonna let you go.
If you're the elect, if he has chosen you, if he has given you the new birth, then he's gonna take you where he wants you to go. Don't make it hard on yourself. That's all I'm saying to you. And I dare say most people here would say, yeah. I want to. Well, that's proof positive. If you have that desire, he's put a new desire in your heart. Well, don't make it hard. Just accept what he has for you. But be careful. When it comes to the when it comes to the Bible, he'll he'll keep you straight. If you start doing stupid things and believe in stupid things without evidence without evidence, that's the key, without sufficient evidence that is reliable evidence about what you believe, well, he'll hold you back till you straighten up and say, no. I'm not gonna be stupid anymore. I'm not gonna believe anything, but on just evidence. Are there great little green men that live on the moon?
Oh, could be. But do you have any evidence? No. Well, then don't be stupid. Are is there life on other planets? Oh, you know there is. That's silly to say there isn't. Yeah. But do you have evidence? No. Well, then there don't god doesn't want you to go that way. Not not to say one thing or another, but God just says, I don't want you to do anything but on good evidence. If there's anything that shouts the high heaven, when I as I study the Bible and all these years as it comes through more and more and more, every word and phrase shouts evidence. The Bible is evidence. It's the final evidence of all reality, all reality, evidence of fact.
Well, I say these things, Roger, to talk about Babylonian Judaism, it's we must know it's there, and the Bible is the great antagonist of truth. It is the the the prototype Babylonians Judaism. Notice I didn't say Babylonian Judaism. Because if you say Babylonian Judaism, that gives the impression that there's a good kind of Judaism. No. It's Babylon's Judaism. That's what it is. Mhmm. Because all Judaism is from Babylon. Uh-huh. That's what it is. That's why it's called the their book is called the Babylonian Talmud and Mishnah. Mhmm. Oh, it's from Babylon.
Babylonianism was what governed. Oh, they'll cite like Rome. They'll cite the Bible once in a while, but that doesn't mean that's final, and, of course, it isn't. But we know about it because Jesus Christ went head to head with it, and the words that he had for the folks that were votaries of that of Babylonianism. And it comes in many labels. Romanism, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Seventh day Adventism, and a whole lot of Protestant names that have doctrines that are not Babylonian, but the denomination is entirely black Babylonian. You got that too. It's like the Republican party. Their doctrine, their platform's good, but the party is very dangerous. Well, there are church denominations like that too.
You know, the whole thing about the evil empire is to say one thing and believe another. Say one thing and believe that's politics. That's the polis. That's the law of the city. Say one thing while believing quite another. And so to have a doctrine that's correct, as the Anglican church, for example, the Anglican church, we have listeners in England. The Anglican doctrine is good. The Anglican the 39 articles of Anglicanism are good or great Calvinism. But do you do we do we think that any of the ordained priest who swear an oath to believe those 39 articles believe anything in them? It's abundantly apparent they reject it all. That's Babylonianism too. Just whatever is handy to believe. That's silliness, of course, absurdity.
There is a doctrine that is true, a set of doctrines. What's doctrine? Fancy word means, in English, teaching. Doc means what you're given. Doctor's degree, a guy that has been given a lot, and he's supposed to be given a lot. That's what that means. That doesn't happen much either. But just the words are important in the Bible because the words in the Bible mean what they mean. You can go to that book and count on it. Whatever it says, that's it. If you can figure out what it says, it takes work to study. That not a lot. Sometimes you just read it. Hey. I'd start out and say, just read the stuff that's easy, that is clear, and just believe it. You can't go wrong, friends. If there's something that's obscure to you, leave that aside. You'll spend the rest of your life trying to master the stuff that's easy and never even get to it all. And I suggest you get started.
Had a fellow yesterday, Roger, two days. Where are we? No. Two days ago. I I said to him the thing I've been saying on here for years, and some of you that listen have taken me up on it. It's this. Take the book of first John. First John was the only one of the 12 man jury that Jesus Christ empaneled that wasn't murdered wasn't murdered for his verdict. John. But take his writings. He was the jury foreman. First John, start with that. And five short chapters, you could read it pretty quick. When you get up in the morning and your mind's fresh, read it. And do that every day for thirty days. Every day for thirty days.
And every time you do it, you may be tired and don't wanna do it. Once you start, you'll say, hey. I'm glad I'm doing this. It's a matter of discipline. You'll see new things, and you'll you'll be enlightened. Your mind will be enlightened. You will know what others don't know, and you will be humble about it. The word of God humbles you. Do that. There's not a more profound book in the bible by a man any more any less educated. There's nobody that wrote books of the bible had any less education than, John the apostle, and he didn't have any.
I don't he had no formal education at all. Had no vocabulary to amount to much. You read that book. You read that book. Simple? Yes. Small vocabulary? Yes. But the profundity will blow you away every time something hits you. And every time you read it, you'll see more and more and more. And keep in mind when you read it, it is a series of tests, a series of tests. It has a jurat that's sworn to, that he is a competent witness for what he's saying. Eyes, ears, he saw it, felt it, handled it. And then he gives you a series of tests whereby you may know, know that you are born from above. And whereby you may know that another is, if you wonder.
And you master that book and you'll know. You'll read it 30 times. You won't you'll be on top of it more than it's on top of you, but you won't know everything. I've been reading that book, translating that book. I would say I'm more familiar with that book probably than any book in the Bible. I've been over so many times. I still go over it. I'm going I just finished going over it now and buffing up my translation. And every time I go went through it this time, I just today, just this morning, I went back. No. That was in Jude. I followed up. That wasn't in, wasn't in John.
But I I see new things. I I commend that to you. Thirty days, friends. You can have the whole new testament read 30 times in about two and a half years if you did that every day with chunks about that large. Back to you, Roger.
[00:34:00] Unknown:
Brent, I wanted to ask you a couple of things in that wonderful, story you just showed her this enlightening of all these facts. A a couple of weeks ago, you were I'm not I'm not familiar with the guy that was Paul's teacher. It starts with a g, Jamail. Is that what you said?
[00:34:20] Unknown:
Gamaliel.
[00:34:22] Unknown:
Gamaleel. Yeah. I've never heard him. Now you said a couple of weeks ago that he had said maybe we murdered the wrong guy,
[00:34:32] Unknown:
a a little reformer. Yeah. Let me get this spelled for you while you're on it. I'm glad you said it. I didn't pronounce it correctly. G as in golf, a as in alpha, m as in Mike, a as in alpha, l as in Lima, I as in indigo, e as in echo, l as in Lima. Gamaliel Gamaliel. Okay. And he was, of the most famous, well known, leading Jewish rabbis in the Sanhedrin in the first century, in the time of Jesus Christ, in the time of Paul the Apostle. And he is recognized as the Pharisaic doctor doctor. That's a they're using their impressing when the people use that, they're impressing an English idea. Oh, no. Not in English. A Christian idea.
A Christian idea. A word into rabbinic Judaism, but he was a member of the Sanhedrin. And in Acts chapter 22 verse three, he's referenced he's referenced and he says this. Paul the apostle says in a speech before brethren and fathers, before the Jews. And he spoke this, by the way, in the Hebrew tongue. And he's speaking as a Roman citizen brought before the Jewish council there locally. He said, I am I'm reading from the English translation, one of them. I am verily a man, which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city of Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and as the rabbi, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God as ye are all this day.
He says the law of the fathers, the law of the fathers, the called the law of the elders. That's what it was called in the first century today. Uh-huh. It's called the Talmud.
[00:36:45] Unknown:
It was the oral tradition also referred to. Right?
[00:36:48] Unknown:
At that time, it was not written down supposedly and was passed along orally. It was the true law. It trumped the Bible. The tradition was it came from the 70 elders during the time of Moses. It was never written down, and that's why they said in the Talmud, they said that the Bible is for women, mental idiots, retarded people, children, and other mental deficient. But the Talmud, the law of the elders, the fathers, is the true law and only we number one, only we know it. And beyond that, we're the only ones that can understand it. Women, children, and other mental deficient can't.
That's Babylonian Judaism.
[00:37:38] Unknown:
Now I asked one day some of the audience because I didn't know this. You're on with us verify with you. That from the time they returned and were released out of Babylon until Jesus came along was about six hundred years. Right?
[00:37:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. At least.
[00:37:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Well, let's just use that as a metric. Yeah. Thereabouts. Go ahead. And then after they murdered him, it still went on as the oral tradition for another five hundred years before it was written down. That's called the Sunoco version of the Babylonian Talmud, I believe. So we had eleven hundred years where people played secret in a circle with all this stuff. Do you know what I'm saying? Oh, I do know what you're saying. In all Babylonian
[00:38:26] Unknown:
form or labels of Babylonianism have a law for the elite. Elite is the French word that means elect, the chosen ones. French elite. And they always, false religion, Babylonianism always has an elite that knows what the unwashed masses don't know, and then all the unwashed masses, Us folk, are supposed to trust them for what the law is. Romanism Mhmm. Rabbis of Judaism, priesthood of Romanism, Mormonism has that. Islam has it. They have a sect of sages that are specially trained to interpret and understand their holy writings, the Quran, etcetera, the traveler. It's always the same. You get anytime you got a priesthood or something that looks like a priesthood, that means you're supposed to trust them and not God. Right.
Buddhism, Hindu, all that stuff. It's all the same. The gurus and the the the guides of the all that spiritually hyped up hogwash. I didn't use a word as strong as Paul the Apostle uses. Okay. Can we circle back to Gamelio or whatever his name was? I was just saying. Gamelial. Uh-huh.
[00:39:47] Unknown:
Gamelial. Then you say and the reference I just heard you in passing, we're talking about something else. Did did he say that perhaps they had murdered the wrong guy?
[00:39:58] Unknown:
Well, Gamaliel made this was it made Gamaliel? Oh, you have to go look. The you know, the chief rabbi of the Sanhedrin was the number one man. The Sanhedrin, as they say it, is the the high court of last resort of Israel. But 71 members, so there would never be a tie. And, the the rabbi, I believe it was Gamaliel Hill. He is the one and then you you go look. I'm throwing it out to you folk. You go look for yourselves. That's what you ought to be doing anyway. I'll have to check it out. But at that time, said when they were deciding what to do about Jesus Christ, they were making him look bad just being there, things he was saying.
And they said, well, we need to kill him, you know, and, well, they wanna get rid of it. And the chief member said, how do we know this isn't from God? And we know for a fact that they knew it was. How do we know that this man is not from God? How do we know that that was a rhetorical question? Because the fact is they did know that he was from God. How do I know? The Bible says so. The a member of the Sanhedrin named Nicodemus came to Jesus Christ in John chapter three, and it makes a point in the genitive case of makes a point of pointing out that he came to him at nighttime. That means he came to him in secret. He didn't want any of his colleagues on the Sanhedrin to know that he had come to talk to him in private.
And he said to him, I'm quoting from John's record of what Nicodemus said. Nicodemus said, we know. Plural. First person, we. Who's that? Me and my colleagues, my brethren on the high court. We know that thou are a teacher coming from God. For only any is there any man who could do what you do? That proves that you have been with God. Oh, what did John say at the beginning of that gospel two chapters earlier? Says what we have seen no. It says, in the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God. And the Logos was God, and then it says he was with God in the beginning.
And then he continues to talk, and he points out that the Logos is Jesus Christ, the Messiah. Well, Nicodemus said and testified that we on the Sanhedrin know because no man could do these things. It's like John Locke said. Jesus Christ life was not just a miracle here punctuating his life here or there. You go to the gospel records and he suspended he suspended the laws of nature temporarily on every page. His life was a blaze of miracles. What is a miracle? It is a temporary suspension of the normal courses of the laws of nature. Well, he's the giver of the laws of nature. He is God in human flesh.
He is the creator of all things seen and unseen, the Bible says. So having given these laws of nature, he has authority to suspend them if he wants or change them even if he wants. But he said he won't do that, but he will suspend them. And he did, and that's called a miracle. And when he did those miracles, he convinced people that what he said was true. As John Locke put it, John Locke said that the miracles of Jesus Christ substantiated his credit as proposer of doctrine. The miracles of Jesus Christ, the purpose was them of them was not primarily to heal people, was not primarily to wow people.
It was primarily to say, hey. No man can do what this man does, except he is with God. By the way, that preposition with is important. It's a Greek preposition in. It means in, with, and by the power of. Those are three, not the only ones, but those are three strong translations of that word. Every time I come to that word in the Greek New Testament, and it appears hundreds of times, I've got to make a decision which one of those three I'm gonna use, or maybe another one within, within. You combine two of them. But in every case it's used, it means all of those things, but you can't put it into smooth English that way and expect anybody to read it. So I generally, as most people do, choose one of the concepts. But the truth is when the Bible says with or in or by, it means all that more. Jesus Christ is so in inextricably bound into the godhead, and you see this with the preposition the Bible uses about him, that he is, of course, part of the godhead.
That is not ambiguous. That's not a matter of opinion either. It's so blatantly obvious and everything the Bible says that it's utterly the evidence is utterly undeniable. But if you won't accept it, there's nothing I can do to make you do that. I would I've had people listen here in other places just climb my frame almost because I assert that Jesus Christ is God reduced to the span of a man in flesh. Well, that's what the Bible teaches. The Messiah of God in the Old Testament is Yahoah. That's easy enough. Oh, so Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus Christ accepts worship of men. Men fell down at his feet and worshiped him, and he never said get up.
Every angel of God that appears in the Bible where that happened, and that did happen because angels appear glorious to men, and men would fall down in the Bible and worship them. And in every case that happened, they said, get up. I'm a creature, a created being like you. So I'm a creature of God. Don't worship me. The Bible, of course, forbids the worship of angels. But Jesus Christ, he never said, don't get up. Get up. And the Bible says all will fall down and worship him at some point. Well, that's what the testimony is. That's the evidence I see I see for what it's worth. But everything about him, his miracle substantiated as John Locke said, and John Locke, by the way, was a Puritan and a a believer, a supporter persuaded fully that the Bible had no errors in it. He was an inerrantist, and he rejected all the false books of the Bible that people bring forward for the good reasons that are that the Bible gives for what constitutes a writing that is inerrant scripture, part of the Bible.
All of these things that Jesus Christ did, though, in the Bible, he had the worst words, the most damning words, the most terminal words for those leaders of Babylonian Judaism, the Pharisees, the Sadducees, those kind of fellows. By the way, the Sadducees were different than the Pharisees. Paul here, when I read I wanted to read what it said here. It kinda amazed me, and it's a good it's a good thing to read. Let me this is how Paul handles, the evil empire we live in. This is a good account. He did this often. Listen to what he says. This is his speech before the leaders of Babylonian Judaism. My brethren and my father and fa men. No, he says men, brethren and fathers hear ye my defense, which I make unto you.
And when they heard that he spoke in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence. And he saith this, I am verily a man, which I'm a Jew born in Tarsus, a city of Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel and taught according to the perfect manner, the perfect manner, he says, of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God as ye all are this day. I'm one of you. I'm one of your kinfolk. I sat at the feet of Gamaliel. I've listened to what I'm telling you, and I persecuted I persecuted this way unto death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.
Here he is telling what is he's George Soros, you see. Yeah. George Soros, same deal. It's part of their culture. And also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders of whom I also received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus to bring them which were there bound in chains, is the idea, to Jerusalem for to be punished at the pleasure of the Sanhedrin. That's what he meant. They knew what he meant. And it came to pass that as I made my journey and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light around about me, and I fell into the ground.
And I heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And I answered, who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And they that were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid, and they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. And I said, but what shall I do, Lord? And he said unto me, arise and go into Damascus, and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, he blinded.
I came to Damascus. Now notice, again, I'd used this while ago as a biblical example of the specific call of God. Not the lightning from cloud to cloud that lights things up and looks pretty, but doesn't do anything. I'm talking about the lightning bolt that strikes, as Spurgeon says, between the joints of the harness and knocks you flatter than a flitter, the effectual call of God. You can't deny it. You don't have any choice about it at that point. It's do or die. Paul, the arrogant ass that he was, at that point wasn't wasn't being arrogant. All he could say is, Lord, who art thou, and what do you want me to do?
He was not cleaned down so far that his face was in the dirt, not to mention other parts of his anatomy. And all he could do at that point, he couldn't look down. All he could do is look up. And when god has you down on the ground, down. This happened to Martin Luther. I always had, I'm not a Lutheran. I don't wanna be a Lutheran. I've never been a Lutheran, wouldn't wanna be a Lutheran. But Martin Luther was on his way. He'd he'd quit law school. His father was a coal miner, had his own little outcrop of coal, had an independent business going, and he had a little money. And he wanted to send his boy to law school, and he did. And he got worried and upset and fearful for his sin, going to hell, and he decided he wanted to be a monk.
He was going back to school, him and his friend, and lightning struck. It struck so close, it killed the fellow that was with him, the boy that was with him, knocked Martin onto the ground. Kind of analogous to what happened with with Paul the apostle. Yeah. If you've been maybe if you've lived, I can say from personal experience, I had lightning strikes so close to me one time, and we shut the tractors down when the lightning came. We got out of the field, but I was with my cousin Harold. Cousin Harold and I had two five gallon buckets, and the storm was coming. The lightning was cracking. It wasn't wet yet, and a bolt of lightning hit so close.
I could feel the electricity in the air. And Harold was nine years older than me, and he I was teenager. He come around with that five gallon bucket. Fortunately, it didn't have anything in it. He trying to knock me to the ground, so I'd be a small target, but it was too late, of course. We went to the ground. It can't do it. That's what happened to Martin Luther. And according to his testimony, he screamed out, Saint Anne, save me. Of course, Saint Anne couldn't save me. That's necromancy. The Bible forgives praying to dead saints, by the way. If any of you engage in those kind of things, stop it. The Bible says don't engage in necromancy.
What's that? Well, necrosis is a Greek word that means dead. Don't try to communicate with the dead. And if there's an attempt by the dead that you think they're trying to communicate with you, stay away from them. Don't talk to them. That stuff does happen. Don't do it. Don't try it. Stay away from it. The Bible commands it. Well, he did that, and he became a monk. Really? No. I'm getting my sequence straight. He became a monk because of that experience. That's what it was. He got involved in monkery. Things got crazier from there. But by making the point, that's the picture that can be made of the specific the specific effectual effectual, that mean it that means it does something, call of God. Looking at creation doesn't do anything, except maybe if you're paying attention, you should be in awe.
It does that. But as the reformer said, the revelation of creation around you is a revelation of condemnation, a revelation of condemnation. That's the laws of nature. It's an important step that God gives us of the acknowledgment, but don't kid yourself. It only condemns you. You know there's a God. You know you you're responsible to him, but you have no way of knowing how to be snatched from hell. So the revelation in nature is condemnation. The revelation of the Bible is salvation. And if God doesn't God if you acknowledge the revelation of creation, he'll bring you to the the law written. William Blackstone, author of those four volumes on the laws of England called called the common law, says in his first volume, he calls the first volume well, the first volume of his four volumes. He says the first volume of law there are two volumes in our common law tradition. The first volume is the laws of nature.
The laws of nature apparent in creation. The second volume, he says this is in the year 08/1765, eleven years before our declaration of '76. The second volume, he calls the laws of nature's god. He says that's the bible. He says the first volume, the laws of nature, is lex non scripta. Lex non scripta. Latin, fancy words for lawyers, law not written. It's law, but it's not written down. That's nature. That's our common law tradition. And the second volume, our common law tradition, by the way, is observations of the way things are, and they ain't gonna change because God made them that way. Then there's that second volume he says is the laws of nature's God.
And that's the Bible, lex scripta, law written. The Bible is his God's recorded revelation in writing of his will. The will of the sovereign, whoever you take to be your sovereign, everybody agrees all over the world about this and has always agreed, the will of the sovereign is law. That's the maximum of Babylonianism. Well, is the will of the sovereign law? Yes. But you better make sure you got the right sovereign, the maker of heaven and earth and all that in them is. That's William Blackstone saying that. Why is it they don't read Billy Bill Blackstone, Billy Blackstone? Why don't they read him in the law schools anymore? Well, yeah, that's the reason why. He says things like that.
God forbid that we should let lawyers even read that if they're trying to learn to be lawyers. That law is eternal. It is the mind of God. It is recorded as a court of last resort in that book we call the Bible. God forbid that any lawyer acknowledge that. I filed a paper in federal court once, federal district court. Some fellow stole a patent. I filed a paper, and the the lawyer on the other side was a he had been a union lawyer all his life. He was a thug. Yep. A thug. Oh, he was nasty. And the court, the judge, Roger the judge I like the judge. I've told this story. Judge, he was his name was Mahoney, and he was Irish. He was classic, and I liked him a lot.
And he said Mahoney said, obviously, there's a problem here. And he said, you you boys gonna have to do some mediation. I'm not gonna hear any more about this case until I know you've really tried to settle it. So it's not a matter of worrying about he's trying to help us. He said, I don't want you boys to be going back and forth on the telephone. And then we weren't boys. We were men, and he was older than me. At least ten years. And, he said, I'm gonna put you in this room or this conference room over here, and I'm gonna put a United States marshal at the door, and you're gonna stay in there for three hours.
So make sure make a head call, he said, before you go in there. And I was thinking to myself, this guy's a thug, and he was six and a half feet tall too, by the way. We're right at it. Somewhere thereabouts. And I said, maybe this is the way the Irishman thinks problems ought to be settled between men. I reckon that's what he thought. Well, the US marshal took us down there, and he put us in that conference room. There was nobody there, and he stood at the door. And I thought a little bit hesitant. Oh, I can be nasty if I have to. You know? Well, I got in there. Of course, then I that was when I discovered that he's more afraid of me than I was of him.
Because once we got locked in that room and, we were sitting there at that table across from each other, He started having nervous fits, and I could tell he didn't know what to do, what to say. He was just a big bully, you know, blowing and going all the time. Well, that's just part of the story. Long story about that case. Didn't turn out the way I hoped it would, but we went back in and we couldn't get it settled in three hours. All he did was scream,
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and the music is here for Radio Ranch friends, and this is Yeah. We're gonna drag Paul. Hold your thumb thumbnail your position with mister, mister Judge here, and we'll get Paul out and do our dues and continue.
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Very quickly. Very quickly, run to the matrixdocs.com, the matrixd0cs.com, and pick one of the other platforms that will carry us throughout the second hour, like eurofolkradio.com or Global Voice Radio Network. If you are one of the platforms or one of the services of the net family of broadcast services that is dropping off at the top of the hour, go to the matrixdocs.com. 106.9wb0ufmchicago. Thanks for being with us. Ciao. There you go. Alright. Brent,
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get your thumbnail out of the wall there and continue on. I got a question or two to ask you anyway, but go ahead if you
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I'll I'll oh, I forgot where I was going with the story. Roger, you just You're talking about the judge. Across the conference table. Oh, I know what it was. Yeah. I got it. I remember I was gonna make the point. So we filed more papers. I don't remember what. I was complaining that he was conflicted. And I dropped a footnote, and I said or I put in the pleading, no man can serve two masters. You can't be a lawyer that's conflicted is conflicted. That means his loyalty is divided, and divided loyalty is no loyalty at no loyalty at all. And I'd quoted that verse in Matthew where Jesus Christ said, no man can serve two masters, and no lawyer can serve two clients.
They're at odds with each other. The the law forbids it. And I was making that argument, quoted that verse, and he came back and said there will be no more quoting the Bible in pleadings. Now well, I liked I liked him. Don't get me wrong. But he's wrong. He was wrong. Mhmm. I can I can show you appellate cases by the hundreds that have quoted the Bible? Matter of fact, I think I've got I know I've got about 500 appellate cases cited in the winterized translation of the Bible. In the footnotes, about 500, I know it's between four and five hundred, of cases, most all of them after World War two alone, where the federal state appellate courts in America have quoted the Bible to make their points.
But there is that attitude in the legal profession that the Bible has nothing to do with anything. That's, again, of course, silliness. Utter silliness. Why would I quote men what some goofy state legislatures have said or some goofy goofballs in Congress have said is legislation. Why would I say that? Be free to say that and not be free to say what everybody knows, whether they admit it or not, is the is the reliable record of what God has said. Jesus Christ himself, his words recorded while he's on Earth, not to mention his words recorded throughout history in the Old Testament.
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Well, that was all I was gonna say. Roger, you were gonna say something. Yeah. I was gonna ask you something. Just curious. The Renaissance in Europe when they built all those gothic establishments, churches, and all that stuff Uh-huh. Wasn't that when usury was banned?
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You oh, we were gonna talk about that today, Roger. Usury. Oh, certainly. Certainly. It was banned. And, during that time, I just know there came a point where the even the church of Rome wouldn't allow it. But, of course, they allowed it at their see, here's what Rome always wants to do. They want a monolith of of totality of government, and we'll forbid usury, but we'll allow it and we'll give a monopoly of it to whomever we want, like the Knights Templar. You know? That's the way that works. Of course, the Knights Templar took over banking in Europe and became Started it. Started it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in a big way. Yeah. In in in a very sophisticated way like it never been done before. It wasn't it wasn't there before.
People are always trying to do that kind of stuff, but they don't make it into a system, but it was forbidden for everybody else. Just like in England, you read Magna Carta. There are several several, chapters of Magna Carta that deal expressly with the Jewish money lenders and what to do about it. Because usury was against the law, had been, and was at that time against the law in England. But the crown needed easy money as did a lot of other men. And so what they did was they let the they'd borrow money from the Jews. And the Jews were glad to loan it because the Jews had no legal protection anywhere. They
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they In a period of time over there, I'm sorry to interrupt, but they were actually the king's property. Yes. And he he owned them.
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Yes. And and he wanted to keep him happy like a like a herdsman wants to keep his animals happy. And the way to do that is let them compile money and money, not property, not land, not livestock, nothing but money is the only protection they had. And the king and some of his cronies wanted that access to the money they compiled through usury, and they did it secretly. But there was no law that protected them from death. They the courts would not entertain cases they filed. And if a Jew went in was sued, he would lose and every why? Because that was the law. If you weren't Christian, you had to say you were Christian. A lot of people said they were, of course.
You had no rights. None. You had to be Christian. Merchant of Venice, Shakespeare.
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Shylock.
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Yeah. At the end, Shylock, what the court ordered him. That was in Italy for crying out loud. The court ordered him to become a Christian, and he had no choice. And so he said, I I've converted, but he couldn't stand it. He couldn't take it. Yeah. It chafed him so badly. Well, the truth chafes chafes people that are apostate.
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I will get my pound of flesh.
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Yeah. And all that stuff. And he'd he won it. Of course, they wouldn't the courts wouldn't uphold that. That was usury, and that was part of the contract. They wouldn't uphold it because the law there forbade drawing of blood. And there was no way he tried to think of a way to get his pound of flesh without causing bleeding, but there was no way he could do it. Long story. But the point that's good, Roger, just to bring that up for illustration purposes. But, so the king wanted the to have the access to the money, and they were charging, by the way, in Magna Carta during that time. And Magna Carta was written to try to stop it because the crown was borrowing money from the Jewish money lenders in England at rates of 43 and a third to 83 and a third percent per year. Now that's according to the records that we could the primary sources that the leading commentators on Magna Carta give us, and I have no reason not to well, what made the landowners mad why Magna Carta occurred was the crown was using money he had borrowed from the Jews in England illegally, of course. That's not legal.
And he had taken a massive amount of gold and silver, borrowed it from the Islamic sultan of Morocco on a promise that he would make all of England Islamic. And at the self same time, he had borrowed an unknown number amount of money from the pope of Rome under a promise that he would make all of England, the pope's fiefdom where he could get rents and profits from all of the land in England. And then he had borrowed from the Jewish money lenders. He was hocked up to his ears to Judaism, Romanism, and Islam. And that's all in Mago Carta. It's all there. And was amassing an army of Frenchmen paid for with that money to invade England and crush the landholders.
And they understood it. They figured it out. And that's why they amassed an army, amassed an army under Marshall, who had been adviser to the king's parents, and then he Marshall was quite a man. Marshall saved England. Marshall. Whoever heard of him? He was the foremost, sports figure of his day. He was as popular as Larry Bird in his day or Nick Bucas in his day. All over Europe, he was a master jouster, and jousting was the chief sport. He was the most famous man in all of Europe, including Britain. He was advisor to the crown. He is the inventor the inventor in its modern form of chivalry.
And he's the one that had control of the army, said this has gotta stop. He was the emissary between the crown and the forces of the or and and the forces of the of the landholders. And he's the one that brokered deals to try to get all the madness to go away to go away along with Stephen Langton, archbishop of Canterbury, drafter of Magna Carta. And the pope of Rome, of course, excommunicated him for having done so. But he was a biblicist too, the chief Old Testament commentator of his day. This is the his this is our history, friends. This is who we are, and this is why the things things are the way they are. But Magna Carta, if you're interested more on this, I have two lectures on Magna Carta. One of them about thirty hours long. You can go to commonlawyer.com and get those lectures.
And the other one is a class that we taught that was very long. It was longer than most because I went clear through Magna Carta, tried to cover every detail of every clause, clause by clause, and blow by blow. And you can get that at magnacarta.com and take that course, and you can listen to the lectures. Had a friend in Montana call me, said Brent. Yeah. What is it? This is in 02/2015. He said, I don't know if you noticed, but this is the the the June 15 of this year is the eight hundredth anniversary of the sealing of Magna Carta. People say the signing of Magna Carta, Magna Carta was never signed. King John didn't sign it. And the reason he didn't sign it was because he probably didn't know how to write his own name as did anybody else, the barons. So they didn't they instead of signing it, they put their seal on it, which is equivalent to certification, but I just try to be accurate. It was sealed.
On the 06/15/1215, he said, Brent, you ought to do a series of lectures on Magna Carta to commemorate the eight hundredth year. So we did that first set of thirty hours on Magna Carta in, 2015, and that's available, I believe, on the website. But then I taught it in more detail, and I knew a lot more ten years later. And I taught the course just recently, frankly, almost ten years later. About two years ago. Right?
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What?
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About two years ago is when you did the Okay. About two years ago. That's probably right. I remember where I was when I did it. But I, of course, enjoyed it very much because when I teach Roger, I learn a whole lot more. The people that listen, if they listen, they learn a lot. But I heard I learn a whole lot more than them. That's the way it works. If you wanna learn something, teach it. Yes, sir. And so if you take these, listen to these lectures, and when you start telling other people about it, you'll learn it better too. Well, I just like I come to these presentations here, and people think they get a lot out of it, and I'm glad they do.
But I get more out of it than you do because when I teach it and go over it, I think of things I I never could have imagined. It's amazing Yeah. What I think of. I I put I I connect dots while I'm talking. Yeah. Well, Paul the apostle made these kind of speeches often, and he identified himself to other Jewish leaders. One time he said, I am a Jew. Oh, yeah. This is in Hebrews. No? No. It wasn't Hebrews. The New Testament, though, he said, I am a Jew of Jews, a a Pharisee of Pharisees, of the tribe of Benjamin. Nobody's more Jewish than I am. Because I followed Babylonian Judaism, he was talking to the Sanhedrin, see. And he here's what he did. This is fascinating to read the book of Acts. Acts is pure history, pure fact, pure testimony.
There's no theology in it, no assertion of philosophy, just facts. Luke wrote Acts. Luke wrote more of the New Testament than any other writer, and he only wrote two books, and they're long. Luke and Acts. Well, he makes a point. He saw that he sensed that there was a dispute on the Sanhedrin between the Pharisees, the Pharisees, I call them, and the Sadducees, the Pharisees and the Sadducees. The Pharisees, the Pharisees, they believed in the resurrection of the dead.
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The Sadducees did not. Oh, that's pretty big in their arena.
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Yeah. And you can remember that. Just remember the Pharisee the Pharisee the Pharisee and the Sadducees. What was the difference? Well, the fundamental difference between the two was that the Sadducees did not accept that God ever suspended the laws of his his laws of nature. He never, therefore, did miracles. So they didn't believe and read the resurrection of the dead. So we used to say when I was a boy growing up, go to Sunday school, they'd say, well, remember, the sad UCs didn't believe in the resurrection, and that's why they are so sad. You see?
And I remembered it that way, and I still remember it that way. Just a little That's an called a an a Memory peg. Little memory peg. Memory peg. That's why they're so sad, you see. But Paul the Apostle saw that there was this well, he knew it. He was one of them. And so he decided that he'd get them fighting over that and he'd get, they'd spring him loose and forget about him. And that's exactly what happened in one case in the book of Acts. And he said, I am a Pharisee of Pharisees, and I believe in the resurrection of the dead. He said that. And then they got into a fight. And then he got loose and ran away. That's really what happened in that case.
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The reason that struck me when you were saying is I was listening to somebody the other day, Joel Scousen, I think, or somebody talking about what's going on in Gaza and how the Jews are almost beside themselves to get a body back because they don't believe in resurrection. Oh, really? That's what a lot of the Gaza stuff is. Some of the hostages, the, Israeli hostages they've got over there, no doubt, dead now. I don't know how boiled, but that's some stinky tunnels down there. Yeah. But, but that's what this whole latest initiative is about, and, that's very interesting on on another reason that they want the body back to I don't know what they do with it in their ceremony, but that's very important to them as well. An amazing,
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false religion has a million different angles to try to deny the resurrection of the dead. One of them is reincarnation. They got they got their angle on that. You know? I was up at the state fair one time, and we went, we'd go it was an agricultural fair. You know? And there's a lady there playing the harpsichord. She'd probably 30, 40 years old, and she had had she painted with corn cob. By the way, that it makes beautiful painting. Just take a corn cob after the corn is hard. You know? And then Uh-huh. And then pick the about this time of year around here at home, the corn's that way. It gets through the roasting air stage, and then you got hard corn. And just take the corn cob and dip one side of it, one and a little bit of paint and just rub it all over a all over a canvas.
It makes the most beautiful designs because of the way the photograph is built. Yeah. Well, she was making paintings like that, and then she got to paint her playing her harpsichord. She played some old country tunes, and and she stopped. She said, by the way, does anybody in the audience believe in reincarnation? And one fellow said, I do. And she said, well, good to see you again. And then she went off. I was just making fun of it. You know? Well, you got reincarnation. But that drives you into a misery of life where you look for death, and that's what India does with Buddhism.
You know? You come back, and they've got the caste system, and that's just nothing but but misery, of course. And there's no productivity. It stinks. It's ugly. You can't get out of your caste while you're alive. The only way you can do it is die and hope you do better, but you don't. No. That's not Christianity, friends. No. And, I've met Indians that have come here to try to escape it. Talked to one fella, bought a car off of him. He was in Kansas City. He was a computer geek. And I told asked him why he came. He told me, well, you just couldn't get ahead because my family we were in a lower cast, and we couldn't people think we live in a modern world. We don't. False religion's always here. And he said, I come over here.
But after talking to him to him for a while, it was abundantly apparent. He was still hanging on to that religion. He whatever it was. Hinduism. You know? And, he he still even though the caste system, he hated it, he still hung on the demonism still had a hang on him. So he couldn't get he couldn't get out of it. And he was depressed and upset. His wife was on top of him all the time. He had he was making $300,000 a year. What a miserable man. That's all I remember. But false religion is that way always. You know, you can be if you're born from above, you can be a happy man and have nothing. I've seen it. I've experienced it. It's really true. It's not cause of me. It's just cause of whatever God does with you. That's what it is. Oh, yeah. You do have joy. You know, joy is the stuff that's underneath that just doesn't change. Mhmm. You don't always look happy. You can be having a bad day, but deep down inside, you're okay. See? That's what we're after. And when I said a while ago about reading first John, the thirty days, when I was a young fella in my twenties, I ran across a book written by a fellow that used to live in my neck of the woods. I didn't know anything about him. Didn't know he read a book, wrote a book. But he was, he was song leader at one time at a Presbyterian church in Sullivan, Indiana down here along the Wabash River. That's down the neck of woods where my family had originally come this neck of the woods. That's where they landed. First, it was in South Central Indiana.
Kinda interested me, so I so I, got the book. And I got to read more about him, and he eventually became a professor at Moody up in Chicago. And he wrote a book called how to master how to master the English Bible, the English Bible. You're not talking about professorship type stuff. You just take your Bible and master it. And he said, he saw a fellow once he went somewhere, I don't know where it was. He was sitting under a tree and he got to know him. He noticed he was, he wasn't upset or nervous all the time or just a relaxed guy to be with. And he asked him what it was. He said, well, I don't know. I I'll tell you what I think it is. He said, you know, it says in first John that John writes he wrote that book so that the readers and the hearers of that book would have joy.
Because the joy that they ought to have, everything's been done to fulfill it, but they're not enjoying it. That's really what the book's about. Not to know you have joy. If you know, there's no way you're going to hell. That give a guy quite a bit of confidence, Roger. I mean, if you really know that you can't lose it, you can't get rid of it yourself in a fit of anger, nobody can take it away from you. I mean, if you really believe that, life becomes different. Well, he asked this guy that, and he said, well, it says out there. I said, well, I wanted to know. And he said, he writes these things to you that you may know. And that word there for knowledge, the Greek word that's there, it means to know. But it doesn't just mean to know because you read a book. It means to know because you've experienced it.
Christianity is not philosophy. It's not intellectualism. It's an enlightenment of the mind that experience confirms all of it to you over time As you move forward in your education, as God edumacates you and moves you from first grade to second grade, like we were talking about a while ago, once you accept what he gives you, he will give you experiences that will ram home the truth. And And then you don't just know it. No, no. You don't just know about it. You know it. And there's a difference in English. We say he doesn't just know the law, know about the law. He knows the law. There's a difference. You know, you marry your wife, but while you're courting her, you knew a lot of things about her. You met her mom and dad, and you knew where they lived. And you knew a lot about her, but you you're never gonna know her until you give it at least ten years of being behind closed doors. Then give it twenty, thirty, forty of being behind closed doors in every way you can be.
And then you don't just know about her. You know her, and you don't quit knowing her. And the longer you're around her, the more you know her and the more she knows you, doesn't know about you. I'd like to get to know you. You remember that little song Roger Houston? Who was that, Roger? Well, it was one of the English bands. I'd like to get to know you. Oh, yeah. You know it. Yeah. That gets in my head. I've it's on the radio all the time. Oh, who is that band? It may have been an American band. Anyway, I remember the song. Well, we can look it up, but somebody will. No doubt. No doubt. Well, that's the way it is with God. Paul, and in that book, first John, John says, I write into your little children because you have known the father.
Known. Genosco. Oh, you know who your father is. A little child said, dada. You know, that's all he knows. Yeah. You said just Genosco to start with a g in Greek.
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Yeah. G. Uh-huh. Genosco. It's kenoso in Spanish. It starts with a c. Oh,
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see. Latin, Greek based languages. But it's in in Greek, and maybe it isn't Latin and, Spanish. I don't know. But it's a word that means acknowledge gotten from experience. You know it because you saw it with your own eyes. You touched it with your own hands, that sensual firsthand experience through the senses.
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In in in Spanish, they will use a word, and it means to whatever. So I believe the root word is there, and it would mean to know.
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Yeah. And there's a word in the Greek New Testament that means no intellectually because you read it in a book or somebody told you, but you don't have firsthand experience. Both of them are important, but he writes these things to you that you may know from firsthand experience. That's what he's saying. Well, how do you do that? Well, the first thing you got to do is to know it in your head. It you can't, you can't know something through experience until you learn about it in your head. You've got to read about it in the Bible. And the Bible teaches that this is the progression, the progression of education.
And I went, I studied, I was a geologist before I did anything else, and I worked in the mines out west. And, we were of course, we're learning a lot of stuff out of the books. You know? Oh, a lot of stuff out of the books. And then we got to petrology, Roger, petrology. Petrology is not about studying petroleum. Petros is a word in the New Testament. It means rock. The word Peter is the English pronunciation of that word for rock. Peter. Well, we were out one time, went, locally. We a bunch of us guys. Back then, it was only guys. Girls weren't geologists. Just guys.
That's there was a real distinction. When I think about it, it's kinda odd. But we went out to a small coal mine that was nobody was using, and we crawled down in there underneath the ledge, and we got up under there. And and, Dewey Amis said, feel up under there. He said, you feel that what your those that fossil formation under there on that coal? He said, that means this, that, and the tether. I don't know what it was. He said at the time, don't remember. And I remember saying to him, how do you know? And Amos, who was an older man, the name of Dewey, he said, experience, winners.
Experience. I don't know it because I read it in a book. I know it because I been a geologist in a coal mine. And then I went to him at the end of my education and, I said, I wanna do a senior paper on the use of explosives and mining. He said, alright. He's I said, what I want from you, if you'll do it, doctor Amos, I want you to sit down and give me a lecture right here in your office. He said, okay. Come back so and so time, and I I'll talk to you. Came back, and he had a rock on his desk. I don't know what kind of rock it was. He had a pencil in his hand. The funny thing about Dewey was he was drunk all the time. Oh. Funny thing. You know, there are people who can stay drunk all the time, like, Roger Yeah. That that really hold down and do their job well, though. Yeah. I'm sure. It'll it'll bite them in the end. You know? It but he was one of those kinda guys that stayed drunk all the time, but he did a great job at what he did.
And, he did. And he he gets ahead of rock on his desk. I'm sitting there and I'm taking notes. And he said, okay, Winters. When you blast a rock with dynamite or explosives high explosives, it breaks three ways. Oh, okay. I said, okay. And I'm writing. He said, I said, what are the three ways? He said, the first way is called the first easiest way. The second way is called the second easiest way. And the third way is called the third easiest way. And he says the rock will break in that sequence. I said, that's all you call it is the first, second, and third? I said, isn't there some fancy name for it or something where I can look this stuff up? He said, no, you wanted a lecture from what I know by experience.
And this is what I didn't read this in the book. This is what I've learned by experience blasting rock. And so he and everything he said, I said, well, where can I can I read more about he said, no? There's no place to read about it. You're listening to me tell you what I've learned from experience. And so when I talk to people, I like it. But I can say, I'm not just telling you something I learned out of some book reading Saint Thomas Aquinas. I wanna be able to tell you this is my testimony. Testimony? Yeah. Because if you've experienced it, you're a competent witness at that point. This is my testimony.
These things are true. Read first John. The first step of having the experience, the joy that may be full fulfilled is you first gotta know it is true. You first gotta meet your wife, man, and say, yeah, I like her. I like she got pretty hair. I dream of Jeanie with a light brown hair, floating like a vapor on the soft summer air. You you're just taken in by her. You don't know her yet, but you know about her. You know what she looks like. And for some reason, there was an electricity there. Whoop. Now we're getting into a little bit of experience. Right, Roger? Electricity. You got that electricity. That spark starts sparking with the girl. Now you're starting into just a little bit electricity, a little bit of experience.
I've had that happen, of course. But then as time goes on, yeah, there comes a point where you really learn by experience more and more and more and more. You know, I had a, heard a fellow say, very famous fellow. I won't give you his name. But he said, he's gone now. He said, you know, the progression between a boy and a girl is the first thing you do, you look at each other. Now he'd studied this out. He was a shrink. You you you look at each other. And then at some point, you may touch her hand. Now there's nobody out there that's lived that is listening to say, well, yeah, I've I've had that, you know. The Beatles. The Beatles sang the song, I wanna hold your hand. Well, that was popular because there are a lot of young folks that had experienced that. Yep. The tingle the tingle that goes with it. Right? Yep. And then, then we had, that famous The Righteous Brothers. Remember that song, Roger? This is all part of human experience.
You've lost that love and feeling Oh, yeah. Of course. In your in your fingertips. I don't feel it anymore. You know, all that. Well, then the next thing happens is you touch the hand. And then the next thing is use your hand to touch the area about the head and shoulders, the neck, you know, the the cheek. And then there comes a point where you touch cheeks. You're at the soda fountain and you order a soda and you get twin straws and you're you got your cheeks together while you're drinking out of the straws. That's the progression. That's the way God made mankind to become more intimate slowly with a member of the opposite sex.
But it all moves from knowing about somebody to knowing somebody. So Paul the apostle says in first John, I write into you young, little babies because you you know who your father is. Dada. That's all you know. I write into you young men because you know intellectually things. You know doctrine. I write into you young men because you you know the word of God. That's intellectual knowledge. Is it important? You better believe it. That's the bottom line. But you know the word of God. And what's the result? He says, you are strong, and the word of God dwells in you, and you have overcome overcome the wicked one. Overcome the wicked one.
So you got babies. They know the father. Young men, no doctrine. Hey. That's important. That will enable you to use that word of God to knock flat the wicked one. One little word will fail him of the word of God. Jesus Christ did that himself. Get behind the me, Satan. Get out of here. The Bible doesn't say that. And then he quote the Bible to Satan. Then the third step is I write these things to you, old men old men, because you know the one who is from the beginning. You don't know about God. You now you know God. Well, that's where he's gonna take us, but there is a progression.
And he will take you from first grade to second grade to third grade once you accept what he gives you. Don't reject it. Accept it. There is no other way to have that joy, and the joy becomes greater the older and older and older you get. I have a friend who texted me this morning and had worked all her life. And, and she now there's been a shift in her life for a lot of reasons. And she's got the Bible, and she's listened to all of it and done so daily, listened to it being read out loud on a recording. And now she reads it every day. She wants to talk about it. All of her friends has changed. She was involved in a professional circle of professional women who got together once a week.
She she said I couldn't stand it anymore. They were empty, empty like blown bladders in that sense. It just wasn't where my head was. It wasn't that I hated them. It wasn't that they weren't kind. I just wasn't in their world anymore. God was taking me out of their world. It wasn't Christian. And now she goes to a bible study with some other gals with this Scottish immigrant. I who live nearby here, a lady who set up Bible studies, and she's been real consistent and they get together. And she said, Brent, I'm just telling you, I I'm experiencing things I've never experienced before. Is it real? No. She's not a charismatic talking in tongues and all that belong. No. No. No. No. No. She just the word of God is steady with her now, and all of the problems she's facing her in her life. Her and her husband have the normal problems of life, but they're getting a little intense. And now she's saying, what does God want us to do here? We're not out for vengeance.
We're out to just make sure that he gets what he wants. And if you didn't get to that point, friend, the word of God will take you there. If you're born from a go above, God will do that. The joy grows. I'm getting talking to her, Roger. You and I have said this. Roger, we've said, you know, getting old isn't all that bad. I I have aches and pains. I like my like my cousin said, rolling out of the bed in the morning at age 75 is a piece of cake. It's getting up off the floor that takes an hour. Well,
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but we laugh about it. But, boy, it's sure nice to know a lot of people. Life just changes as you get older. Things that were really important to you earlier just don't seem to okay. Well, whatever. And, it's a it's a it's
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a interesting change for sure. And I have discovered, Roger, that our audience is among purely young people here, but there's a mature element here that is really interested in the truth. And I'm glad that we have an opportunity just to talk about it. Well, Roger, how do I just quit talking for a while? Let me I'll tell you what. I know you've been, giving us some real valuable insights and information here today, all as always.
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And we're about thirty minutes or so, before the end of the program. Is there anyone in the audience that has any comments or questions for Brent or myself for what we've talked about or any of that?
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Good morning, Brent. Good morning, Roger. I think Hello, John. That I think hey, Brent. Did you say about thirty minutes in, did you say there are there is life on other planets?
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No. I didn't say that. I said I don't know of any evidence, that that's true, and so I don't give it any attention and just forget about it. If you can if somebody can show me in the Bible, that's good evidence, that that's absolutely unambiguously true, that'd be different. But I've never seen that. Yep.
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Right. Thank you.
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Yep. Okay. John, anyone else?
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You know, Roger, somebody I'm I'm I'm gonna put up the order. If somebody wants to talk for right now for right now, if you wanna talk and say something while I'm talking, you have permission to do that right now. But I'm gonna start talking here and just wait because I don't want it to be dead time. You know? That's no good. That's pretty unusual for this bunch not to have a question or comment. We've covered some pretty interesting stuff today.
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But if they don't, they don't. That's okay. You know? Oh, wait. We we got plenty to say. That's not a problem. No. No. No. Not a lack of things to say. No. No. No. Well,
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it's important.
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Let me ask you a couple of things. Did you happen to see any of Hegseth's speech to the generals, admirals? And do you know how much it said that that that cost them to bring all those guys a $100,000,000 from all over the world for the for that incident with the HEGCEF and the president. Do you happen to see that? No. What did he say? Well, it's very interesting. You know, I guess most times, the guy that runs Department of Defense is a civilian. Higgs says, is a general, relatively young guy, middle age. But he got up there and and paced the stage with no transponder and just said there's changes, and they start now.
Everybody's gonna have to take the height weight requirement twice a year. Everybody's gonna have to take this twice a year. You're gonna have to if you're overweight, no more red sequins high heels and, you know, all that kind of stuff. Uh-huh. So it was really very demonstrative and and very serious. Now Trump went over to Quantico to talk to him. And as he was walking out to the helicopter, somebody asked him about it. He says, I'm going over there to talk to these, admirals and generals and and important folk. And if there's somebody I don't like, I'm gonna fire them.
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Well, that's it prerogative.
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And, there it seems to be that with the Trump administration that since Charlie Kirk's assassination, there is, much more of a determination and a sense of urgency on some of these initiatives. It's It's what I'm seeing and feeling. Uh-huh. And that's good. I feel it. I feel it as well, you know. And,
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whatever anybody could say about Charlie Kirk, Providence, the god of all providence, has used it to fire people up. And Oh, that's for sure. God God will work it. God will work it and do what ought to be done. Yeah. There's At the bottom of it all what's that? I would no. At the bottom of it all, I'll add mine when you're finished. Oh, I was just gonna say at the bottom of it all is the effeminacy of the military forces. Oh, absolutely.
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That's what at the bottom of it all. Yeah. And the whole gender thing that's going on, all these trannies are the ones that are violent and, etcetera, etcetera, as you would say. And then heck, I had another one. I wanted to ask you to make a comment. It's it's it's escaped me now. Dadgum it. Anyway, that happened this week. That's pretty, pretty interesting. There's, Trump is starting to, I guess, declare Marshall ongoing in some of these lawless cities. The the neck the the the one they're moving into next, evidently, is Memphis at the behest of the governor of Tennessee.
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Why didn't why didn't the governor of Tennessee take care of it, I wonder?
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I don't know. I just know he requested I believe he requested Trump come in there and take care of it. They're in there. I did not know Stephen Miller was Jewish. Did you? Who's Stephen Miller? He's, the head of the bureaucrats there with Trump. Very, very forceful, very conservative, very demonstrative, very articulate, and, a a real go getter, you know, and he's Jewish evidently. So good on you. Okay? Yes. I'm a look him up while you're talking. Oh, you'll like him. He you'll really like him. He's, pretty straightforward. And he got up in front of Memphis police and said you got five different, agencies of government. He they they're giving everything to Memphis to stop the crime. Evidently, he's gotten very bad. Of course, he's warming up to Pritzker. I'm not sure if they've got that folks in Chicago or not, but I did hear somebody talking that knows Chicago and said there's some very safe places in Chicago.
All of this bad stuff is coming out of one section probably on the South Side Of Chicago, it'd be my guess. But, anyway, there's there's a lot of this stuff. The next city they're gonna have to go after is Portland. Portland has gotten totally outside the pale. They're arresting journalists and and letting the Antifa people go free. And one of the guy is a Sordor, Nick Sordor, youngish guy, gotten very into politics. He's got him a show on Saturdays now on Infowars. And, he got arrested by the Portland cops last night in in some kind of an altercation with an Antifa guy. Well, he got a personal phone call from Pam Bondi this morning evidently saying we're going after these people. So Trump is really starting to tighten the screws.
He has named Antifa as a terrorist organization, the the which gives them special power against whoever they're going after this label there. Uh-huh. So, man, you know, I remember in the early days of the patriot movement when I was still real green, and they would say make a tyrant act like a tyrant. And that's basically what they're doing with them. They're trying to expose him as that with all this crime and stuff. Now this is something else I wanna say. There's a gal on, Harrison yesterday for an hour, second hour, who has gotten into infiltrating all these left wing organizations.
And her and her group, they infiltrate all these online meetings. Even if they're they're in their area, they will go and infiltrate them.
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And she she,
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educates people on the language of the left so you know what they're talking about. You know? Uh-huh. Like, when they say democracy, well, their their definition of democracy is lack of opposition to communism. Okay? That that sort of thing.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah. And I just didn't oh, go ahead. Now what they're doing is they're following a formula that the Bolsheviks used in to, start the nineteen eighteen German revolution, and they use labor unions. So what they're doing is going to all these these revolutionaries, and they're getting them a job at, like, Amazon or some of the big companies. And then they go in there and they organize sales, and they're gonna try and get contracts. And all of the contracts will be set to expire on the exact same day, which is 05/01/2028. And then they will start a revolution from that point to try and take over the country, disrupt it, and see if they can do their deal. Anyway, that very important information, and, it just ex exactly the same way they did it in Germany in 1918.
Use the Bolsheviks, come in, get a foothold, get an organization, get them all riled up, and start the BS. Uh-huh. So that's being organized right now in The US. Roger. Okay. So I wanted to say this. Yeah. Samuel, did you happen to see that yesterday?
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No. But it's a slippery slope when you allow the federal government to use the military to do what the states are supposed to be doing. It they're never gonna relinquish that.
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Well, Samuel, I agree with this, so do all the experts. What else do you do?
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You let people
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defend themselves and not take them to court for shooting somebody that will be in be shot. Over in California and these other places, you they can't do that. So what else are you supposed to do?
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Well, can the Federal government
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could back prosecutors Well that would reinforce local prosecutors
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to allow people to defend themselves. Okay. You sure. You're You're gonna get that. People are getting gun insurance these days, Roger. Listen. That's great, but that's pipe dream stuff.
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K? No. It's not. What you're saying is pipe dream stuff.
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Trump can declare the ins Insurrection Act, which is what Bush did, or he can declare martial law and send people into those places. It's totally within his power,
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and it's totally logical to me. I understand what's gonna be police state, Roger. It's gonna be a police state. Yeah. What I don't get I don't get don't understand why a governor would do that. If he wants force to be asserted, the governor has power to assert the force that's needed. But it why does he call in the feds? I don't understand that. He doesn't work with them. Wait. If he were a Democrat like Newsom and he wouldn't do it, then I would say the feds have a responsibility.
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Absolutely a duty.
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But yeah. But, if the state if the state, is all for it, why would they call in the I don't get it. I I'm not sure. Well, you know, Samuel I think they're in league with each other. They wanna take over. That
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it's all the same people working together. Guard with the national guard, which is state, the the president can call up the National Guard. So can the governor. So can the sheriff. Okay? But whoever calls them up first has control of them.
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Oh, that's true. But that still doesn't that still doesn't explain why a governor wouldn't go ahead and call out the National Guard or anybody else he controls and then ask the president to do it. I don't understand that. Because Because they're so adversarial
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They're so adversarial against Trump. It doesn't matter if what he's saying and proposing is right all the way to to heaven's gate. They're gonna oppose it. Okay? Because
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this this gate Alright. Hold on.
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Well, finally, we've got them talking here, Brent. Okay. Hold on. Was that Robbie or was that Joan?
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Joan, the state answers to the feds. Thank you. Bye.
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Okay. Comment. Who else is yes. That's Joe right there. Hey, Joe. Morning.
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What about the posse comitatus that it's still enforced?
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Well and that's what, Stuart Rhodes was saying on Alex was what needs to do is Trump needs to call up the militia.
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That's who needs to handle branch Davidian whether the Posse Comitatus is in force.
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Okay. Posse Comitatus was overturned administratively. It was it was it was bookshelved administratively.
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You cannot do it administratively, Paul. It has to be a congressional act because the apostasy commutatus act was a congressional act. Yeah. It's a congressional act,
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but they sheltered administratively, and, the stupid people believed that they had the authority to do it. Therefore, they quit claiming protections under it.
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Honestly, it's all perception. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever they can get away with, they do, and that's what's seemed to be happening here. Yeah. There was a during the Haymarket riots in Chicago, the governor of Illinois at that time was a fellow named Altgeld. And, the president of The United States wanted in the worst way to send in federal troops to to shut it down, and so he tried to find cut legal cover. And he said, well, the Haymarket riots are threatening. Notice he didn't say, they were stopping. They were threatening the free movement of The US mail.
So he sent federal troops in, and they put down the Haymarket riot. Governor Altgeld sent him a letter protesting and his reasons why that he didn't have jurisdiction to do that. It's one of those kind of documents that should be read often, and I don't I don't support governor alt governor Altgeld in other ways. But in that particular point, he made the proper point for always for political reasons. You know? He try and look like he's somebody, but he didn't do anything about it. But it's analogous to we were talking yesterday, and we're teaching sheriff Darleaf and I are teaching a course on comparative law and talking about, ask him, what would you have done import in, Seattle, Washington when they had their summer of love and it turned into passing out weapons and murdering people? What would you have done if you were sheriff of that county?
He said I would have taken my deputies in and taken over the town. And if that happens in my little county, that happens within the city limits of a town here. That's what I would do because I have jurisdiction if the policeman and the I'm I trump them anyway. I just come in and take over. Well, if the governor of a state won't bring order to Memphis, Tennessee, then and refuses to do it, or the governor of California won't bring order to the Bay Area and people are in danger, it seems that the the president of The United States would have legal cover to come in and do something.
But for a governor such as the one in Tennessee to ask the president to come in and not do his duty, that's weird. I don't understand what he's thinking. Well, don't forget. You mentioned San Francisco as an example. We had,
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the head president of China came over there a couple years ago last year. You remember that? Yeah. You know, with all the feces on the ground and the needles and people sleeping on the sidewalk. Well, they had that cleaned up in two days.
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For sure. Totally.
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But that wouldn't have that wouldn't have, justified the president of The United States coming in there. And
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the Chinese guards were holding the American flag. They were doing what? Holding the American flag at wherever they were meeting.
[01:50:33] Unknown:
Oh, I see.
[01:50:34] Unknown:
Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
[01:50:36] Unknown:
Well, it kinda rubs me wrong, but whatever. Yeah. Samuel?
[01:50:41] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, I I understand that Memphis per capita is even got a higher murder rate than Chicago. I think so. That all these the thing that all these places have in common, like the Bay Area and Portland, is they got draconian gun control laws. So the only people that are killing people are the people with the guns, which are the people who need to be eliminated.
[01:51:08] Unknown:
Alright. Well, you're critical of this move by Trump. What you yeah. I believe that since it started a month ago, there has not been a murder in Washington, DC, and there used to be one or more daily. There hadn't been one murder since it started.
[01:51:23] Unknown:
Enforce the first amendment and the second amendment, and then you a lot of this goes away. Mhmm. That's what the federal government should be doing.
[01:51:32] Unknown:
Okay. So, anybody else wanna weigh in on this? Got something else to mention. We got about a couple minutes left. I will Well, there's Shane. I'll be darned. Go ahead, Shane.
[01:51:44] Unknown:
Yes. Why do you know why we're the first one off the gold standard and the last one to get back onto it?
[01:51:56] Unknown:
Hello?
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Shane, we were the first one off of the gold standard. You mean in 1971?
[01:52:06] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:52:08] Unknown:
And what was the second part of it?
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And possibly the last one to get off to get back onto it.
[01:52:17] Unknown:
Okay. So what what about that? What's that what's that question supposed to mean?
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Well, for example, why is the bricks consortium
[01:52:29] Unknown:
building up? Why is he, Well well, the bricks okay. Stop right there. Don't do a list. No. Well, they're building up because you got a system worldwide of unjust weights and measures. And they utilize that as a weapons system all over the world against countries. And quite frankly, a whole bunch, about three quarters of the world's population, is pretty damn sick of it. And so they started a system of honest weights and measures. And if Trump keeps pushing and we don't get the economy started, the new BRIC system is gonna be on us, and it will take the place of the world reserve currency chain. Does that answer your question?
[01:53:08] Unknown:
I was hoping to get one from Brent.
[01:53:11] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I doubt if Brent knows about this, but let me ask him. I might be wrong. Brent, what do you know about this, that you could answer Shane with this question, please? Well, I couldn't understand him, so I'm asking you to tell me what he said. Saying the difference between that we were the first to get off the gold standard and the last to go back on it. Okay. So what's the what's the question? Well, that's what I was trying to get out of Shane, but he just Oh, I see. He said he just wanted to ask you that. You don't have an answer for that?
[01:53:41] Unknown:
Well, that I don't I didn't hear a question. I just heard a statement that we were the first to get off or first to get off. Well, you wanted to know what your opinion of that was, I think. Oh, well, my opinion, we ought to be on the gold standard. That's easy. In other words, gold is legal tender. Let's use it. Let's use it more than we've ever used it before. Let's get off of paper money, computer money, computer entries.
[01:54:02] Unknown:
What's that? Coins, cyber coins? No. That's all that's
[01:54:06] Unknown:
all unconstitutional. That's clear.
[01:54:09] Unknown:
The constitution is clear as crystal. Well, you're seeing where the price of gold you're seeing what the spot price of gold is lately. Right?
[01:54:17] Unknown:
And what what happened? What is it? That's around 3,800.
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Just take a take a jump a rooney on top of that exponentially.
[01:54:26] Unknown:
Yeah. It was over 3,900 only this morning.
[01:54:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I did it. Okay. Thank you, Joe. You're, stand corrected. And, Robbie Noel used to say gold climbs a wall of worry. That's what they say on Wall Street. Gold climbs a wall of worry. Well, there's evidently a lot of worrying going on out there. Yeah. Yeah.
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Roger. Alright.
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We're right at the end of the hour. Somebody else got something?
[01:54:54] Unknown:
Yes. I'd like, rent to address the the mark and buying and selling, and I'm sure he knows about digital currency and, Biometrics ID. So I'm wondering if he has a bank account, and would he submit to a, a mark of some sort or a biometric to buy and sell? And if you can address that topic. Yeah.
[01:55:30] Unknown:
I won't I won't talk about my personal finances, any detail of them at all, so I'm not gonna answer that part of it. But I do like to and this is a personal application question. And the thing that ought to be talked about is the mark. What is the mark? Do we have the mark? Is it a tattoo?
[01:55:50] Unknown:
Is it a Social Security number? What is it? ID. It's digital ID. It's already been signed for 2028 for England. And guess who's behind it? Tony Blair and his son about ten years ago started the company that's gonna provide all that and service it. Surprise. Surprise. He's also gonna be the new mayor, if you will, or governor of Gaza if Trump's plan goes through, which I seriously don't expect, Humble's to to honor it. Oh, this all this stuff happening. This week, BB is back again. I think it's about the sixth time he's been over here. Everything they've got an ultimatum against Tomas, and they're trying to call it a a a a level peace plan. It's not level, and it's always skewed towards the damn Jews.
And, anyway, that's synopsis of some of the things that have gone on this week. It's been a Well, that's week.
[01:56:50] Unknown:
Well, let's talk a little bit about Revelation 13. I believe that's what you're talking about, isn't it? The, Mark there that's bespoken. I think that's what a sketch is referring to. Yeah. Well, let me read the passage. This is from the winterized translation of the Bible. And then some I've got notes here that I've put down my impressions and my understanding of it and what should be done. This is the same context as the number six six six and worshiping the image and all that. Well, Revelation 13, verse 16 says that and it does each and all men, the small men and the big men, the rich men and the beggars, the free men and the thralls, that is the slaves, so that it might give a brand mark, a brand mark upon their stalwart right hand or upon the forehead.
Do we need to wait for a minute?
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We can take a second to get through this outro, and we can hold this till the after show for sure. Brent, as always, we appreciate you and what you bring us. And it's a joy do do a radio show with you from my point of view. So thanks. We'll look for you next week. Common lawyer dot com, if you're just being introduced to Brent Winters, he's a good place to go find out a lot more about him and his, Sunday church service if you don't have a church home over there on Patriot Soapbox. And he's he's he's he works himself almost to death every day. So, anyway, we always appreciate you stopping by and sharing your time with us, Brent.
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And And we
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feel the same way about you, Roger. Yeah. Good to be with you. I wanna know you're okay. It's just a great relationship that started out of just I I well, I could say accident. I'm not sure that'd be correct. And, so many years ago, we don't even remember how long. I can't remember. But it's been a lot. Okay? It's been at least 10. I know. I think, I think at least 12, actually. Okay. And we've never, with a couple of rare exceptions, missed a show. So always a pleasure, Brent, and people can look forward to you being here on Fridays, I think. And hopefully, if we're all around here and they don't blow us up in a nuclear war, which I don't anticipate.
Anyway, we'll, hopefully be here tomorrow on Saturday. If you wanna follow Brent, he's on his own Saturday show over there on Patriot Soapbox. And if, if you come around, if you don't, we will see you somewhere soon, hopefully. So, we'll see you soon. Ciao.
[01:59:32] Unknown:
Yeah. If if they didn't listen to us, Roger, I'd probably say it anyway. So then Yeah. That's true. Good either way. I think you and I do these shows if there were anybody listening. We both enjoy it enough. Well, let me get to the mark, and this is important that so much is said about it. The mark that is bespoken in the seventeenth verse of the thirteenth chapter of Revelation, John the apostle writing the same fellow that wrote first John and and, the gospel of John. The mark, the Greek word here is karagma. It is neither a tattoo nor a brand burnt. I'm reading from the footnote.
A brand burnt. What's a brand burnt? A burnt brand on the skin. That's a stigma. In Greek, it's called stigma. To be stigmatized in the Greek tongue means somebody branded your hide. If you were if you were a cowboy out west, branding cattle, you would say, if you were Greek, well, we stigmatized the cow. I like the word brand. Another example of how simple English is. One syllable, stigma stigmatize, that's three. But it is a brand. That's a stigma, but this word isn't stigma. It's karugma. It's something it's not a tattoo, neither is it burnt, but is a thing fashioned and then attached upon, that's the preposition here, epi, upon the right hand or upon the forehead of the useful lackeys of the evil empire.
These are the Talmudist Babylonian device called the phylactery the phylactery. You see, in the Old Testament law, it talks about finding the law of God upon your hand and upon your forehead. And so the Jews take these little leather boxes, and they have ties on them. They tie the box. They tie the thing on their around their head so the box is on their forehead, and they tie it around their hand a certain way so the box is on the back of their hand. And inside the box is a little piece of paper that has this Bible verse on it. It says, bind them to your forehead and tie them to your hand.
Was that what it means? Well, let's keep going. The Greek word, phyllacterion, is an amulet. That's what they call it now, phylactery, but it's an amulet. That means it contains a little Hebrew writing on vellum or paper, and this is put in the little box that's on your forehead or tied to the back of your hand by hyper detailed ceremonial windings and knots of leather straps. This is Babylonian Judaism. This isn't in the Bible. The practice of using phylacteries with the ceremonial detail is found nowhere in the bible and is condemned as an addition to the word of God, drawing all attention to the sign that is the phylactery instead of that to which the sign points, which is the the Bible itself, the word of God written.
To receive the mark on the right hand or on the forehead, this former testament's old testament's reference to one's hands and forehead, Deuteronomy chapter eighteen eleven, signifies one's acceptance of god's law respecting god's grant of that land, that is his conditions of land tenancy. And this accord accords with the word of God, in that God is the landlord, the allodial landlord of the land and also the trust settlement of God as the settler of God's trust with his people. And the reference here is to one's hands and forehead signifies law, not God's law of the land or common law, but in this case, the evil empire's law of the city.
As it is said, different law, different God. Different God, different law. So the phyllactery here is a mark, a kurugma, which is neither a tattoo on the skin, a tattoo in Greek is called a stigmata, or a brand burnt into the skin, also called a stigma, but instead is a thing fashioned and then attached upon the right hand or upon the forehead. And the preposition here is upon, not in, not under, not into, but upon. It's referring to the Old Testament, Babylonian practice of the phylactery. But it's not the Old Testament. It's just the Babylonian practice of the phylactery.
That is not biblical. Obviously, what the Bible's talking about there in Deuteronomy chapter 11 is a symbol pointing to a reality. We are to have the word of God in our heads, and if we have it in our heads, then it will come out in our hands. That's the symbol of the phylactery, but it's not to be practiced. So he's using it here to say that it's evil, the mark of the beast. And, of course, I go through here in the in the, the notes, the things I'm talking about elaborate on the more. This is what we are to watch for. What are you to watch for? The book of Revelation the book of Revelation is about Babylonian Judaism, and he stresses that John the apostle stresses that in chapter two verse nine and chapter three verse nine when he says, woe unto them who say they are Israel who are not Israel.
He repeats it twice. That sets the tone for the book we call Revelation. And that word woe is the Hebrew word oi. It's written in Greek, but it's an attempt to approximate the pronunciation of the Hebrew word. Jesus Christ uses it. It's recorded in Greek in the gospel records when he says, woe unto you, scribes and the Phariseites, hupokratos, hypocrites. That's the Greek word for a stage actor. You're nothing but actors. You ain't real. Woah. Well, the word woe though is significant. It's used in the old testament as well. And what woe means is that you are cursed into oblivion without any opportunity to repent.
It's all over but to cry in. The historic fancy word for it in the history of God's people is apostasy. Apostasy. The Satan himself and the demons are apostates. They don't get a second chance. It's all over, but to cry him, they're gonna get thrown into the lake of fire. No second bite of the apple. When Jesus Christ says, woah, scribes and Pharisees, that is a pronouncement, god's pronouncement, god himself pronouncing terminal, irreversible doom. That's what it is. And when you see it anywhere in the Bible, just understand it's all over but to cry and for whoever is accursed.
The pope of Rome has cursed me that way. The pope of Rome has cursed anybody, officially has cursed anybody who does not agree with them. Specifically, they have cursed anybody who says that salvation is by trust alone and not keeping the law of God works. Anybody who says that, the pope of Rome has cursed calling such a person anathema. That's a Greek word that means you're cursed under a decree of irreversible doom. It's all over. That doesn't mean it's true in his case. But when Jesus Christ says it, it's true. And we have the record of what Jesus Christ has said that meets all the and over more than the evidentiary standards for reliable evidence.
So the book of Revelation is an Israelites, a blood Israelite named John the apostle, slap in the face of Babylonian Judaism, but that's not unusual. All of the New Testament, starting with the gospel records of what Jesus Christ said, is a slap in the face of the prototype of all false religion. All false religion is from Babylon. Babylonian Judaism, according to the Bible, is the prototype that's used. There wasn't something we call Romanism with a Christian label at that time. No. There was there wasn't even Islam, but those are the same, fundamentally the same.
Anyone who says that you can commend yourself to God by reaching a standard of behavior that pleases him, and you can commend yourself to him in a way that will coax him to snatch you from ever going to hell, that's a damnable lie. You can't. The only way you can avoid hell is by the new birth, and that's not something you do. That's something he does. That's why we say to quote Paul the apostle in the book of Ephesians, for by grace are ye saved, and that grace is not for of yourself. And by grace through faith by grace through faith, and that grace and faith are not of yourself, it is a gift of god. Something god puts in you, Not of works, just in case anybody didn't get it. He says not of works. Why? Well, if it was something you did, you could boast about it. So he adds, lest any man could boast. We can't boast about it because we didn't do it.
That's salvation. And John the apostle and all of the New Testament beginning with Jesus Christ himself is declaring declaring woe under those what that would promote Babylonian religion, law, and government. And the prototype of that in the New Testament is Judaism, and that's what that's what John is saying here in Revelation. So when he's talking about, he sets the stage with those statements in the second and third chapter. And then when he speaks about it, he's talking about a practice of Babylonian Judaism, phylacteries.
And he says those that wear them have received the mark of the beast. Now John understands this in terms of his understanding and his personal experience of living in Jewry. That's where he was. That's all there was. He understands it, and he knows that if you accept if you don't accept the that mark of the beast, in this case, he's using the example of phylacteries, You don't accept it, a practice of Babylonian Judaism, then you can either buy or sell, and you become thrown out of the economic system of this world, a deplorable condition.
The Amish people, or as some people say, the Amish do that today. If you disagree with the elders and about how many buttons to put on your pants or any other detail, how many safety pins, if they say safety pins instead of buttons. If you disagree or even ask, they'll throw you out, and they will not do business with you anymore. And that's really the way they do business. Yeah. They do business with each other. Now that's a common practice. The man who received his sight in, I believe, it was John chapter nine. Maybe it was eight, but I know I think it was nine.
It says that when they got ticked off at him because he didn't understand how Jesus Christ had did this, they threw him and his mother and father out of the synagogue. Out of the synagogue. Why? What does that mean? That means what it means here when John talks about it, you can neither buy nor sell in Israel anymore. You're not part of their club, and you could starve to death. You certainly are not going to prosper. Well, that's the way I understand the mark of the beast. No. I'm not gonna do that. I don't want to. I
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don't I haven't done it yet. Don't reckon. But, Roger, you wanna say something? I was gonna say I think that's kind of it fits the bill on what's going on in England that's supposed to be, overseen and implemented by Tony Blair. You're not gonna be able to buy or or go to store or anything else. Just what I've heard that I remember, it's too bad Paul's not on with us today. He ain't no more. But, anyway, that's looming on the horizon.
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The evil empire, has prototypes of this too all over the world constantly nonstop. I just talked to a listener on this show yesterday who went to court, Roger, and the police had stopped him. And and, one one of the his family members well, let's put it this way. It didn't have a driver's license. And instead of fighting it, they just okay. And the officer said, well, get in and get a driver's license. You're gonna drive. So they went to get a driver's license post haste, and the the person that was trying to get the license, they asked for the Social Security number.
I said, well, I don't have a Social Security number. Well, how old are you? Well, full grown person. Well, get a Social Security number. Well, why can't you give me a driver's license without me having to get a Social Security number? Correct. And they said, well, we can't do it. Well, then I won't get a driver's license and told the judge that. And the judge said, well, why why don't you want a Social Security number? Well, because I don't think it's proper, and it's a Christian conviction. And he kinda rolled his eyes, said, okay. Well, okay. Thank you very much. And that's here's the fine, and I hope I don't see you again.
But that the the evil empire always always does things in many many times, in many ways before the prophecy that is given, and it's all the same thing. There have been many people that noticed this in the bible. The a prophecy is there, and then they notice that it occurs in a small way that is not the complete fulfillment of the prophecy. But you see, if you don't take a social take a Social Security number, most people in America won't pay you. You certainly can't get a bank account. You certainly can't get a driver's license. You certainly can't get a student loan. You sir certainly can't join the armed forces of the United States. Or if you can't do business and do those kind of things, you can starve.
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Same thing. Right on the on the front of the card, it says not to be used for identification.
[02:16:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So they they do it though. So these are precursors as the theologian would say, or some of them I've read. They say, well, these are, partial fulfillments of the total fulfillment and the final fulfillment of the prophecy. Consider, for example, god said to the to Israelites, get out of Egypt, get out of the law of the city. Before that, he had said to, Lot, get out of Sodom. Before and he did. And before that, get out of the city. And before that, he said to Abraham, get out of Ur. And Abraham did. He started looking for that place God had for him. But you see this throughout the Bible. Jesus Christ said, when you see certain things happening, flee from the cities.
Flee for the hills. Get out of the cities. That's a theme that's woven through starting with the first parts of Genesis, woven throughout the warp and the wolf and the text and the context of the Bible. Get out. These are and then the prophecy in the end, in the book of Revelation, here where we are, it says that Jesus Christ will destroy every city on the faces of the earth. Well, he's been saying that all along. Roger, we know too. The evil empire always says what they're gonna do before they do it. They have to. There's some kind of a,
[02:17:49] Unknown:
some some kind it makes their actions more powerful, they think, or whatever. There's some form of requirement for them to do that. Yeah.
[02:17:59] Unknown:
So it's not and the reason for that is, I think it's clear, with all of these partial fulfillments coming along through history and then in in our own lifetime, god's saying, look. I'm warning you, warning you, warning you, warning you. And so when it's all said and done and the hammer drops, the hammer drops, and for those of you that are not in America, that means the hammer on the pistol or the rifle that ignites the firing train that fires the bullet and brings the destruction. When the hammer drops, nobody would be able to say, I didn't know. I didn't get the word. There was no due process here. You can't bring a bring a negative effect on me for something that I did or didn't do that I didn't know about, and God's saying no.
I am persnickety. I observe due process with deft precision. You cannot say that I'm unjust. You know better. I have given you warning. I have sent you men to teach you. I have sent you the Bible. I have sent you warnings in history of first partial fulfillments of what I said I'm gonna do. Over and over and over, I sent you the flood of Noah. I sent you the tsunami. I sent you the hurricanes. I sent you the earthquakes to show you what power I have. Warnings. You could couple those with the Bible. You ought to know life is short. Get your account straight and quit playing games. So when I when I draw the bead and drop the hammer, no. It's just. It's always just with God. And not only is it just with God, he is careful to make sure it looks that way.
That's important too. It's not for us mere mortals, it's not enough that he's just. He knows that we're blind and stupid and slow, and so he goes to great lengths to warn us over and over and over. So there's no excuse when the hammer drops. Yep. Well So get your account straight, folk. Both of them. Ready yet, you don't have much time. I'm a tell you that right now. You don't know. Jesus Christ said you're trying to you're trying one more thing. You're trying to fill your barns. You're working hard. You're seeking wealth. And don't you stop to consider that you could be gone tonight, and then it's too late. Yep. Somebody said something to Roger. Hey. It was Larry. Larry, was that you?
[02:20:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd just like to point out, that the phrase mark of the beast is not in the Bible, and that comes from the the concept comes from Revelation 13 verses 15 through 18. And in those verses, you'll see the phrase image of the beast, name of the beast, number of the beast, and number of his name, but you will not see mark of the beast. You will see the word mark. And another thing is, in the King James version, Brent said that the mark is is on, the preposition is on, but the King James verse version uses in the right hand or forehead. He uses the preposition in.
[02:21:20] Unknown:
That's thank you for saying that, Larry. I I didn't. I can't say it all, but it's important you fill that in. Be careful. The prepositions are what govern relationships of everything. And without them, we don't even know. But in this case, that's a critical word. But anybody else have a comment? Mhmm. I don't think so. Hi, Britt.
[02:21:45] Unknown:
Yeah. How are you? What was that what was that scripture verse you said in the beginning right after you were responding to sketch? You said, all those who say they are Israel and are not remember that? Revelation
[02:22:04] Unknown:
Revelation two nine and Revelation
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three nine. Oh, that one.
[02:22:11] Unknown:
Okay. So deal with that. It says
[02:22:15] Unknown:
it says those who say they are Israel. They it doesn't say those who say they are Jews.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
That's
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right. It says Israel.
[02:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Don't trust me. Look it up. Look it up. Yeah. I have. Yeah.
[02:22:30] Unknown:
Okay. Good. Good, y'all. Good, y'all.
[02:22:33] Unknown:
Alright. Brent's a busy man. He spent two hours with us in twenty something minutes now. Somebody have a question or comment? Once, twice. Brent, we'll see you next week, buddy. K. Thank you. See you. Go off and get get somebody a remedy.
[02:22:50] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:22:52] Unknown:
I will. Thanks. I'll see you, man. Be careful. Bye. Thank you, Brent. Bye bye. Well, what a guy. Thank you. Appreciate it. What a guy. So fortunate to have that relationship with him and what we have here on Fridays and what he brings and the different things that we've been taught by Brent. So we really thank him. Okay. Anybody else got something for me?
[02:23:17] Unknown:
Yes. I tomorrow. I I hope you get the chance to listen to, Paul English's show yesterday. He went over, Michael Untenberger's, money system.
[02:23:34] Unknown:
Oh, Getty in Austria? Uh-huh.
[02:23:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
[02:23:39] Unknown:
Well, Paul's another one. Just the the he's like y'all, all y'all. It's just this a God thing. You know? The people that are attracted to this generally have some sort of a spiritual gene in the in the game and, whether they know it or not, actually. So, anyway, it's just a blessing. It's a blessing for me here in the latter part of my life. I can tell you that. It's extremely rewarding. It's very fulfilling, and I just love all of you. K? And I love the new people that we either have got sniffing around or that will come around in the future and take special care with those people. And, we'll talk about yesterday's show tomorrow a bit. Okay?
So, anyway, I'll see y'all, on Saturday morning. Ciao.
[02:24:30] Unknown:
Thank you, Walter.
[02:24:57] Unknown:
And I put a link in the chat, I think, for Bill Gates's, who wants he wants to put a a tattoo on you, and it's also it's, it's on top and it's inside. So that covers the mark, I think, or not the mark, but the b system. Yeah. Britain was trying to roll this out in the name of migration control. So that's why they're kind of all to talk about immigration. All is probably a end around or maybe this was the reason why they did all that flooding to cause the reaction, and now they're gonna create the solution, digital tracking. Problem, reaction, solution.
Same thing, Trump mentioned.
[02:26:08] Unknown:
Is that for, identification?
[02:26:16] Unknown:
Is what identification? Bill Gates' tattoo?
[02:26:22] Unknown:
Excuse me. Yes. The mark of a beast or the the ID, the marker would be the I don't know. The the the one in rolling it out in Britain of the, identification
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team.
[02:26:49] Unknown:
I think that's just biometrics at this point, but, you know, it's the tiptoe towards totalitarianism.
[02:27:00] Unknown:
Agree.
[02:27:09] Unknown:
Thanks, John. See you later. Bye.
[02:27:12] Unknown:
Yep. I'll, sing that to tiny Tim's, voice. Tiptoe to totalitarianism
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with
[02:27:26] Unknown:
me. I think we should get a ukulele and using, Brett. That'd be perfect.
[02:27:37] Unknown:
We don't need to drive the audience away. Well, I finished my appointment with I finished my appointment with the VA, toenail doctor. I got a pedicure from an MD.
[02:28:09] Unknown:
I hope there was a good conversation.
[02:28:13] Unknown:
It was only about ten minutes. I'm going over to Botaf right now to grab a couple of level four plates for a $100. Brand new. Only thing wrong is the warranty's out, but I don't care. As of last night, they had a 187, pair of them. I don't figure they ran out already.
[02:29:04] Unknown:
Question that I don't know if anybody ever asked Brent, being that he did the winterized version and everything, being that the Bible is a law book. Could you use the Lord's prayer three times as an ambassador of Christ in any of these lower courts that are not obviously the high court of heaven. Is it that simple?
[02:29:51] Unknown:
Please remember to ask Brent that question next Friday, George. Thank you.
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In my listening to doctor Paul Felter, in his opinion, the Lord's prayer is a prayer to a Hebrew of a Hebrew for the kingdom which they were promised on earth, and not the prayer of that a Gentile would do. Because our our kingdom is spiritual, not not earthly.
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Isn't the earthly heavenly if God is God?
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Well, according to Felter, before the Hebrews rejected Christ completely at the killing of, Stephen or Stephen, That was their real rejection. And that's when, Jesus gave Paul the ministry to the Gentiles instead of the, Israelites, like using that word Jew
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or Hebrews,
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And the kingdom promise is different. There's the heavenly, and then there's the earthly. And the way he looks at it, they're divided, But that prayer was for the earthly kingdom, and there's certain words that that are used in the Bible. I think it's what's the phrase? Son of man. Is used, I think, 80 sometimes in the New Testament by the by Jesus and by his disciples that are except Paul. Paul never uses it because he's making a difference between the earthly promise and the heavenly promise that he was teaching. Just FYI, you know, I'm certainly not clear on it myself. I mean, lately, I've been coming into so much new stuff that, you know, I could have interrupted or got into the conversation with Brent today about what and who was responsible for the canon of the Bible.
Well, I don't really think it's wise to let that be up to an organization like the Catholic church, for sure. And according to this other group that I'm listening to, that would have been decided by the high priests and his scribes, not the Catholic Church, and that would have been decided by God's will. They make the argument that the Qumran community, which we call the Qumran, sort of a an Islamic name for the area that we have sort of today, but it was called other things in the past that the Dead Sea Scrolls are from. That those are actually the writings of the high priest or the sons of Zadok, which would have been the line that came down from Solomon that was in charge of keeping the law and everything in those Dead Sea Scrolls is what should probably be canon.
It's an interesting view because they, when the Hasmonean dynasty came into power was about a hundred and sixty, seventy BC. They overthrew the priesthood. They killed Onias which was of the line of Zadok, the true high priest, and they put in a king and a high priest occupying both places which was not lawful. And this is the same people Jesus is talking to a hundred and sixty year years later as being phonies, as well as would have been Gamil who taught Saul. He was a Pharisee. The group exiled and went to Qumran and kept the writing sacred there supposedly from this new information I'm getting.
So those books like Jubilees and first Enoch, etcetera, would have been because they're found there, their argument is these would have been canon. Just just throwing it out there. A lot of it makes sense. And they tried to make the people at Qumran the Essenes, and that's the Essenes were also a cult that wasn't following things like John the Baptist was and the writings that were in Qumran, found in Qumran. And you got to be careful that you don't get writings outside of that area. Like, there's 11 caves in Qumran. If you get writings outside of that area, then you're starting to get other contaminations in which probably aren't right.
But,
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anyway,
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the bible says that in the end times, a lot of knowledge will be be found, and, maybe this is part of it. I
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I don't
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know.
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Samuel. Yeah. Yeah. I challenge you, when you're reading in the bible, one of the things I've learned is whenever you see that phrase, the end times, to me, that's the end times of Israel, and that all occurred back in seventy AD. So the end days or the end times, that only had to do with Israel. That does not have to do with the Gentiles. That does not have to do with us living in this day and age. It's all behind us. Another thing is I do agree with you, about the, the the Jews or Israel, they were promised a physical kingdom back back when they back in Jesus's day.
And so one of the conditions to that old covenant system was they had to be obedient to the law and God himself. And because they failed that test, then they were not given the promise of a physical kingdom. And then the gospel went out to the Gentiles, and it's all about a spiritual kingdom under the new covenant. We're under a new covenant. The old covenant was done away because it was a conditional covenant. The new covenant is a is an unconditional covenant, and it's has to do with Abraham and his seed, and that seed is Christ. And anyone that believes the gospel, they are in Christ, and they are a part of that seed, and it's all about a spiritual kingdom.
The Lord is sitting at the right hand of God, which even Stephen testified to. You know, he saw the Lord Jesus Christ stand up when he was right right before he was going to be stoned to death, and, and then he, of course, sat down. And, so the kingdom was offered the physical kingdom was offered to to the to Israel at that time, and I believe that was the third time. So the physical kingdom was offered under Jesus Christ because they're still under that old covenant. They were still under the law. And then the second time it was offered was under Peter in the book of in the early chapters of the book of Acts after Jesus is Jesus Christ's resurrection, and the third time was under Stephen. They were once again offered the the king the physical kingdom, but they rejected it, and they stoned Stephen, and that's when you see everything progressing to the Gentiles.
And, basically, the lord was done with Israel, that old testament Israel. They they don't exist anymore. What you have instead in our day and age is what's known as the Israel of God. That's what a New Testament believer is considered to be, you know, in in these modern times. So, anyway, my 2¢.
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Yeah. Well, thank you, Laird. What the argument is, though, is that they rejected not the law, which obviously they weren't practicing very well because Jesus condemned the Pharisees. And like I said, that goes back a hundred and fifty, sixty, seventy years prior to them being in power through the Hasmoneans, but the the argument is that you've gotta read Daniel and Revelations as and put those two together because they're talking about the same thing. And that in those seventy weeks, there's a week missing. And that's those seven years of tribulation where, you know, they're going to have that last opportunity, but they'll be also be under law according to Felter. So I, you know, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm not not sure about it all myself because it's relatively new stuff to me.
So so he's feeling that the church gets raptured out into heaven, and then the tribulation starts. And if he's right about that, they're not going to be, we're not going to see the temple built here on earth when we're around. If we are and we see it that happening, and right now they're talking about in the Middle East that if if they're gonna go all out and actually try to nuke Iran, they may also blow up the Muslim's temple so that they can put their temple there as part of their, you know, absolute despotic nature of what they're doing to the Palestinians and everything else and everybody around them, it just wouldn't surprise me that they'd go ahead and blow that temple up to get rid of it so they can build their mosque up there or their temple up there.
It's all very interesting. It's, you know, a lot of these people have really good points and, and if and we get even more depths of the end times if you go into these books that are not considered canon, as well,
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so I don't know.
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I mean a lot of these older books that aren't canon were cited in the New Testament by the apostles as well. So they obviously knew about them and considered them of some value, but you got to remember there's a hundred and sixty, seventy years of infection in this priesthood because they killed off the first thing that the Hasmoneans did is install their own king and priest as one person, which is against the law, and killed the high priest which had the lineage back to Solomon, the sons of Zadok. So this just shows you that by the time Christ gets there one hundred and seventy years later, this is what he's talking to.
They don't even have the law according to what some people are saying, because those books that were in Qumran, this was that exiled group that would have been the line of the sons of Zadok, which is where they say also John the Baptist is coming from, and they put put him in Qumran. Like all the Bible accounts say he was baptizing in the Jordan where one says that. John, who probably knew him best, says John he gives an exact a more exact location. He was baptizing in Bethabara beyond Jordan. Well, that's not in the river. Like, the others are citing or getting it close to could have been if they said just Jordan and then not the Jordan River, it could have meant the valley, the whole valley.
If you take what John is saying, this Bethabara is very, very close, or if not the same place as Qumran. So John the Baptist and the linking to Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls are very high possibility from what I could research so far.
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So you brought up a good point. So Daniel and Revelation go hand in hand. Daniel is known as the book of Revelation of the Old Testament. And, the thing I I would like people to focus on is that that is the use of the word beast. That represents that's symbolic of empires. Daniel lists the world empires in sequential order, and Revelation does the same thing in reverse sequential order. So, you know, these people that say that there's going to be a beast in the latter days, that that's not even what that word is talking about. It represents a world empire.
In the book of Revelation, when you see that word beast, that's talking about an empire, and to me, all of that is in the past. I'm no I'm no longer a futurist. The last days were the last days of Israel. You know, even in the book of Hebrews, it says in the last days, the Lord has sent us his son. And so, you know, all of that is behind us. Just something to think about.
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That would differ there. I think there's a lot of unfulfilled things, including those those seven years missing from Daniel. Those aren't those prophecies are not fulfilled. That's gonna happen in tribulation which is coming.
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Well,
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if you did back to my original statement, the judge is
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the is serving under another kingdom,
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or I should say not serving under another kingdom, but is under the ultimate kingdom, it's really a matter of giving to Caesar what a Caesar's. Right? And that our father, I think, concentrates that on earth as it is in heaven. So you're just returning whatever interest they have, you know, if they want the Social Security number, if they want the birth certificate, if that's theirs, you return that to them. You don't you don't you have no evidence that it, you know, identifies you, the the one using it, you know, if you will. And so it's a there's different uses of the use of frauds. It's not a turn. You know, state the interest of presumptions.
But it's all one kingdom, including Satan. Look at Job is under God. You know? Again, it's a the, you know, last days. I'm just talking about the long Bible.
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Yeah. I see, Satan is sort of like God's yeast. If there's evil in you, he might test you with Satan to see if it grows. But in the case of Job, he knew that that wasn't there, and he said go for it.
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Yeah.
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And I'll yeah. I'm out of the phone. I'll read something. I gotta head back to the to the shop and then to the job, and I'll grab the phone because, there was an interpretation which, you know, I don't know if it's accurate or not, but restating the declaration of independence versus, two hundred fifty years next year. Right? So, but there's something about meeting with the 800 generals and stuff that one one man's interpretation was, which I thought was was it of interest. I don't know how how true it is. But
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Well, I I listened to, Larry Johnson and colonel Larry John or Larry Johnson and colonel Wilkinson on that 800 guys sitting there. And, basically, their summation of what was going on is Peg Theft and Trump were telling them, you're gonna help us take over The United States, and if you don't like it, please. And nobody left.
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Yeah. This has to do with the what the what the martial law would you know, is really about. And, basically, they tell them the Vatican to go count sans. So it's pretty interesting, but I involve those 800 judges that the or, generals benefit by a restore But I this could all be smoke screen stuff to, you know, again, the same reason they're using immigration for the digital ID. They'll be like, oh, we're gonna give you your freedom. But either way, here's that digital ID that everybody will need. You know? Which in a sense, we already have because if you've got a credit card or you've got a bank account, you're already kinda in the digitized monetary world. Right?
So
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Wilkinson said that guys like Stockwell, I think he was an admiral. He was one of those guys. He said if he would have been in the audience listening to that speech from Heg says, he would have got up and told them he's a piece of shit or a bag of shit and left.
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His name was Stockwell?
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Stockdale. He was one of the highest decker he he got shot down in, Vietnam and was held captive for, I think, seven years.
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Oh, he was, Ross Bros. Right?
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Yes. Same guy. So you would have said he was a piece of shit? Is that what Yeah. So if he was If he was in that audience with those generals, he would have stood up, called him a piece of shit, and left.
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He he said, Het Seth was a pile of poop. Right? He he was right. Right?
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Well, what does this guy know? You know? To have that position.
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He's that right.
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He he couldn't he was given a paper on how to fix the military, and he couldn't even get that right. He couldn't even read it right. I mean, that's how pathetic he is. Or, you know, he changed it.
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But
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Yeah. We're in trouble. It's the bottom line. And these people are gonna start taking cities over, and once they do that kind of crap, it never goes away.
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The only thing except it said that I know of is that the military cannot wear dresses in high heels. Some military men.
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And he doesn't like them fat either.
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Yeah. Right. Okay.
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Like, that's that's the biggest problem with our our military. It's like you know, it guess it's visual, but, we we sure got a bunch of problems. I mean, we've got the most expensive in the weapons in the world that don't protect us from what our enemies have. That's the bottom line. Yet we're still running around the world telling everybody what to do, and the world is done with that. We need to change. It's we're massing a force also down in Venezuela. Wilkins says and and and, Larry Johnson, that's extremely expensive.
They're gonna use it. Gonna try to take out that country's leadership with it. They're not just gonna let it and we're doing the same thing we did before the we bombed Iran the last time. We're we're building up weapons, fuel, and stuff at our air force bases over in The Middle East. We're going into our cities. We're messing with the Russians in Ukraine. We don't have the manpower to do any one of those jobs properly. So the guess is by these military experts is they're going to use technical nuclear weapons. And then where does that put us?
Not looking good.
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A lot of people say there are no nukes.
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Yeah. I don't agree with that either. There's old World War footage, Joan, that was kept out of the public eye for about fifteen, twenty years of the devastation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that military film crews took. And of all the people suffering from radiation effects, etcetera. So that wasn't just a high explosive. It was highly radiative. And probably one of the reasons those people did so well even under the circumstances is their tremendous seafood diet, which had most of their system filled with iodine. But, the blast killed a certain amount, but within weeks, and this old footage shows these people's conditions.
And it's horrific.
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Yeah. Is it the one where they look like their face had burn spots on their face and arms? Is that big?
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Yeah. A lot of them a lot of them were skinless. Large parts of their body or their their clothes was fused into their flesh.
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Yeah. Awful stuff.
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That footage was hidden by our government for, I think, fifteen, twenty years before it finally got out.
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Samuel, do you think Gaylor Windsor is a fraud?
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I don't know who that is.
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He's the guy who worked at a nuclear plant under, safety, and he went on television, I think, numerous times and drank radioactive pools
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that would cool down the nuclear facility. He'd go swimming in it also according to the Oh, yeah. I remember that guy. He used to put plutonium in in two different pockets as to as long as they didn't come together, he was okay. Right? That guy.
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Is he still still alive?
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I believe he's passed, but I don't think I forget if he died of cancer or old age. I'd I'd have to look it up. But I don't think even if it was cancer, I don't think it had anything to do with him drinking the radioactive water, allegedly radioactive, or sitting there eating pieces of plutonium and and whatnot and surviving it, tell the tell the tales. But, basically, he was just trying to say, well, there's fear mongering going on, and I'm here to set the set it straight in regards to his field of study, which was nuclear related stuff. And then, obviously, he was a high level in the, nuclear radiation field of study, I believe.
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Samuel, here's another fact. Despite initial fears that Hiroshima would be uninhabitable for decades, today, there is no more dangerous residual radiation from the nineteen forty five atomic bomb. The radiation levels in Hiroshima are now comparable in the natural background radiation or to the natural background radiation found in any other city on Earth.
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And that's Japan.
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Yeah. That's Japan. People are living there. There's no more deadly effects of any alleged radiation in that area.
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Yeah. Japan is, economically doing horrible. I don't know. Man made.
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Someone's been lying. I mean, been one.
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The name is spelled g A L E N W I N S O R. Look into it.
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Samuel, I was watching a video on YouTube about fifteen years ago, and they were trying to determine well, the the narrator of this video did not believe that nuclear bombs exist. And he had actual footage of these testing sites that were several miles away from each other, and what they were doing is they were stacking up, crates of dynamite, enough to be the equivalent of whatever megaton bomb they were allegedly, detonating at another site age, and, of course, everybody would gather around, and they would they would watch this, you know, watch this, explosion occur, you know, all these scientists and and, you know, bystanders or whatever bystanders or whatever.
And what they were telling the people on at the other site that both sites, they were stacking dynamite. But at the one site, they were telling the people, well, there's gonna be another explosion. And when you see that explosion, that's the actual nuclear bomb deindetonated. And what we've what we've done here is we've stacked crates of dynamite so that we can make a comparison to find out, you know, how how powerful that blast is gonna be. And what they're doing is vice versa at the others at the, other site, they were telling the people the same thing. And so both sites were just sites that had, crates of dynamite that were stacked up enough to create the illusion that a nuclear bomb was being detonated.
And, so there's a the same person that put this video together, and I can't seem to find it anymore on YouTube, was saying that what he believes is Hiroshima and Nakasaki were carpet bombed, and he did not believe in nuclear bombs, that they did not exist. So all these scares that went on during the cold war days between America and Russia, it was just all a hoax to create fear and keep people in control. So, anyway
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Well, unfortunately, I think we're about to find out. And how do you get that high explosive in in one plane? You know? I mean, that's impossible. So it woulda had to have been a carpet bombing, but, you know, this is, yeah, you've you've got all this footage to look at from our war guy, and they he gathered up the color film was just coming out. He gathered up all he could get from the military when he did this, filming. And, they almost didn't get the film out of there because parts of the government already knew what they were up to and wanted to suppress it. But, it shows all of these places where the concrete is burned by a shadow of a person. And and if there's a ladder on the side of a tank, the image of the ladder is burnt into the or it's not burnt. Everything around it's burnt, so there's the it's like a negative. But it you know, I mean, watch that stuff and tell me that these things don't exist. These when they detonate these things too, there's also seismic records of what's going on.
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Anyway,
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we got lots of ways of killing people, and I just got a thing from and Murr, probably you got it too from Rick Wilds yesterday. It says that the Kremlin believes and is being advised that the West has a pathogen that is capable of killing ninety percent of the population and that they're up to being using that. So
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A lot of it is predictive programming, though. They, they film stuff and then they
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kinda produce the news is produced. You know? And,
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I don't know how far back it goes. But
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So why is the press it for fifteen, twenty years, though?
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Well, no. They they show it in the movies a lot of times, and then they come up and then they produce the news later. So like that. Yeah. You can't trust really anything they do or tell us. That's there's no doubt about that. Right? I would say, yeah, I would say auto hoax pretty much everything until proven otherwise, including the squib of Kennedy. You know?
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So, I mean,
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we know the Zapruder film came out afterwards. Right? And everybody's talking about where the gold goes. Now the same thing with Kirk, where the gold go. It's Matthew Gold. He's a man of steel.
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There's a bulletin board up here. Basically, I can And supposedly, the frames
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and supposedly, George's frame is missing. Right? So
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. You can use the Wayback Machine to do, recent research on Google.
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Hey, ma. Hey, ma. Hey, Joan.
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That word you spelled that starts with a g, it does that have to do with, nuclear bombs?
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It was a man they were talking about. It's in the chat. It's in both of them. Okay. D a l e n is his first name. W I n s o r is his last name.
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Okay. Thank you.
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One thing's for certain, Jesus' message was about love, and I don't see this country giving out love to the rest of the world for a long, long time.
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Well, USA stands for under Satan's authority. You know?
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Certainly looks like it, doesn't it?
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In his little imps.
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Did you read that article from TrueNews yesterday?
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Yes. I did.
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That's something wrong about that one.
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Yeah. What was the subject matter through the news article? Thank you.
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Some of the highest advisers to Putin are telling them that the West has a pathogen that is designed to kill ninety percent of the world's population.
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Oh, yeah. Right. You mentioned that a minute ago. Thank you.
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And if that's true, that means they've got an antidote because otherwise, they're gonna be gone too. That would be too much of a crapshoot for them. Right?
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Well, the colon is a virus, and viruses don't exist.
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I heard pathogens, so I don't know.
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I remember pathogen. The article open in front of me. Kavilovicic alleged that western elites are preparing to unleash a virus with a ninety percent kill rate, killing off most of humanity. The The survivors, he claimed, would not be ordinary people, but a tiny global elite served by robots and advanced technology ruling over the populated planet. They're all in on it.
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Oh, god. They wish
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I did come across a article about, that the negotiations that are under the radar between The US and Russia were really about that pathogen that you're talking about. Don't know if it's occurred or not, but there was an article saying that's that's what the real negotiation it's not about Ukraine. It's about the pathogen. Yield.
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I also heard those those conversations could have been about making a deal with Russia if they don't intervene when we attack Iran.
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So do you'll see where, there was no color guard for the first time ever on the twenty ninth when, Mila Koski went to the White House, and he was, forced to, just pictures of Trump with they're sitting in front of the fireplace like usual. And, Phoebe is reading a letter over the phone. The phone is on Trump's lap stretched across, you know, the curly q coil there. And he's apologizing to Qatar for bombing them.
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Trump is apologizing?
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Nope. Billy Kelsky. BB Netanyahu. He's the one that bombed them. I already revealed that.
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Yeah. Thank you. There's a US base
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right there, just west of there, big US base.
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Who haven't they bombed? The list is getting longer and longer.
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Well, the Iranians and I have nice article, you know, they said they weren't you know, found that their what defenses weren't good and everything that they had, but, they said they ended up, you know, that the Israelis are 16 or more, pilots short now. I guess I need to use more drones.
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Hey, Murph.
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Yes, sir?
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Yeah. This is Larry. My, sister, she's she's my older sister. She lives in Pennsylvania, and she had a really good close friend, years ago. And they're always talking about, you know, all all the things that we kinda discussed about, you know, world events and and, how things affect us. And, this, good friend of hers, she she's deceased. She died, oh, I I would say about fifteen years ago, But she said she went to school with Netanyahu.
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He went to school in, like, near Rittenhouse Square there in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. And, Yeah. That's that's where my family's
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of that area.
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Yeah. And Michael Jones went to school not far from there too. Yeah. Mhmm.
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Yeah. She's, my sister's friend is who got her interested in in, you know, all of the, conspiracy theories, which are not really theories. A lot of them are are facts. And, one of the things that that helped get my sister involved in thinking about these issues is, when when her friend started to talk to her about the, the Skull and Bone Society that, that Bush and Carrie were a part of, back in the day. You know? They're just brothers running against it. They they create this this illusion that they're against each other, left right thing, when really they're both brothers in a society. And, you know, there's all kinds of rituals they have to perform.
I think one of them involves you have to lie naked in a casket. You have to commit I don't know how far they go, but, you know, homosexual type activities with with fellow members, and they kinda get all this stuff on you, I guess, and and evidence in case, you know, you you ever deviate from from, you know, your your associated role in the in the world as far as the stage that you're supposed to, you know, procure. And, if you deviate from that and you start becoming a truther, you know, they'll take you out or they'll they'll have all kinds of, you know, evidence to, convict you.
So very interesting.
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Do you ever hear Jessie Sabodar? You can go to timothy charles holmesat dot com. All her affidavits are there. And she has some other sites as well, but she was being groomed. See, they groomed these children. They have the hierarchy children. And, they're tortured and everything too, but they're kept alive because they're put in these places of power in their bloodlines. Sabodar is I have several bloodlines, apparently. But, she learned of Jesus when she was really young too, and so she broke out of it. But she was being raised to be the head position of the mothers of darkness, the drone physician. And, apparently, they haven't filled that position since she's been gone. And, you know, and they did a bunch of stuff to her too. And Elon Musk, you can see about the ritual of blasphemy that they do at the Biltmore.
And, it it's just all this stuff they groomed. And so I'm sure these people are all groomed from an early age. I mean, they really tortured w, and it was the plan to kill him on 09/11. You know? His father was thought he would assume the dictatorship, right, of the country and the world, basically. But that one plane that they were using for excuses because it wasn't planes that were doing the stuff, but, was headed for the capital that was chock full of congress critters that day, and it didn't happen. Wasn't in the Lord's timing.
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Yesterday, Parallel Construction, I think yesterday came up, and that's how they can, design a case to take you down. If you don't take the briefcase and they can't convict you, well, then they'll give you the bullet.
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Yeah. There's there's stories of how they, you know, give them a child, a gun, and a camera and, so they can blackmail themselves. And some of these children, women in particular, that have, come through, but they're not the only ones. But the men very often are, like, stuck in homosexuality, if they survive. But, one of these was well, more than one, actually. But they didn't know their real names when they bring these people in to, you know, have sex with them. And, they did it multiple times. And so, she said, as it turns out, Bernie Sanders was very kind and gentle to the girls or whatever.
Of course, he wrote he wrote, you know, erotic novels and stuff about his like, his wife was imagining having three men rape her when they were having sex. I mean, they're just so thick. You know? But, anyway, one congressman and his wife, they always have to have the wife involved too. So, you know, they're in misery and blackmailed, and they know what's going on. And so they had the congressman and his wife, and they were there. And they were supposed to go in and do this stuff, and he refused. Didn't say who this congressman was. So they shot him dead right there and dragged the wife off to do whatever and use her in some position, you know, because then they can sheep dip them, you know, which is basically, reconstruct their minds so they can use them in another position or several other positions.
And then they're never held to account for it. You know? So yeah. There's a whole underground army, and all of these secret societies are related. They're tied together even though the members don't know it, most of them. But, and it's all part of this, Luciferian Brotherhood or Illuminati, whatever name you wanna put on it, but it's satanic. And, I mean, she was talking about the underground long before what Catherine Austin Fitts is talking about, the, extinction level event. And and all that's true too. You know? They they do have these places prepared, and and, and they do these rituals there. I mean, mass sacrifices and stuff like you hear about Mayans and Aztecs doing. And and then when they're presented, that this you know, when people come out of it and try to explain, they're just, oh, you saw the movies. Because the militaries, they're filming this stuff, and they sell it to the to Hollywood to make into movies. And so there's the out. And besides that, then you're damaging all the people that watch the movies. So stay on the Plato's Caves, let alone it be in predictive programming too. Yeah.
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I remember back in the during the Occupy, protests, and it was fascinating to watch. In our little town here, I went down and watched, and there were, for sure, Eastern Europeans dressed in, like, Eastern European clothing watching all these people and, what is going on here? And it was interesting to see how they, controlled that, occupation, of Wall Street protests through this, this non no one's leading it and consensus. It was like, what is this happening here? It was like totally controlled psychological operation. It was weird. It's really weird. But I did see, especially around the banks, when protested around, there was the these Eastern Europeans in, like, brown leather coats. I'm going, these guys stick out like a sore thumb. What are they doing? It's it was just fascinating to watch.
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Hey, Mert, you were asleep at the switch. I had sent you a private message or two earlier.
[03:24:36] Unknown:
Oh, where? Email or in here?
[03:24:39] Unknown:
In here.
[03:24:40] Unknown:
Oh, I wasn't in here. I didn't come in till
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just about thirty. Yeah. You were here when I did it.
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Oh, well, I should be able to see it then.
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Yeah.
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Scroll back probably close to an hour now.
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Hey, Brent.
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If you haven't watched,
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prior going into the gun shop, please do. I'd love to hear your opinion on, that short video.
[03:25:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I saw him there. I had to get to bed early, which I didn't, but, you know, I I've got the emails.
[03:25:18] Unknown:
Yeah. No worries.
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So is this private? What are you doing here today? Yeah. Because of winners? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had some stuff to say, but I I figured I'd just not say it. But I don't know. Yeah. And then I,
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egged you on because he, had said something that would have triggered you.
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Which thing was that? Probably a lot.
[03:25:46] Unknown:
Oh, he was talking about the flat earth thing.
[03:25:49] Unknown:
Oh, I didn't hear that part, I guess. The hellfire thing gets me too. He should know better.
[03:25:55] Unknown:
Well, he mentioned one thing that came to mind. I'll say it out. The faces of the earth. I'd never heard that before
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that way. Poetic melanin.
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Oh, you had some pretty good stuff today, believe it or not.
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Sorry.
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I was rather backhanded.
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I I talk too much. I get my just hate the lies. I'm so sick of all the lies.
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You say you're my little brother.
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Lies. Lies.
[03:27:08] Unknown:
I can't go for this predator stuff, though, with everything was over in seventy AD. Nope. I don't I don't buy it. He says when I come back did he come back in seventy AD? He's been here all along in spirit form. Breath of holiness. They're one. He didn't come back in seventy AD. Do you think it would be important for us to have the King James version Bible? And learning more and more about that if he weren't keeping his word? We don't understand his word or don't want to, some of us. Yeah. My talk's with Ken. He's like, oh, I used to believe that. Now I believe this, but I might believe that again. I'm like, okay. Whatever. I mean, I can see that in a lot of respects.
You know? Like, I thought Kurt was killed, and I was feeling bad for that. I thought, oh, well, that's you know? I mean, not that I liked him because everything I did see about him was Zionist stuff. But then, you know, since then, that breath of holiness has been showing me other stuff he did. So I'm planning to play a couple of his things where he's helping people and, you know, then Max Egan, he gets part of it, but he he didn't follow-up. And I I did like what he said about, Erica, though. He said, oh, she's a pretty lady, but she's no, what's her name? I can't think. One of the real svelte, vaguely, you know, like, swimsuit models or whatever. I hope they weren't. But
[03:28:51] Unknown:
Oh, Elle McPherson?
[03:28:53] Unknown:
Yeah. He said that one and another one. But, you know, which he if he makes a point, you know, she wasn't. And that it she won that on and, well, he's saying 17. Everything happened when she was 17. No. She was that was actually her 20 birthday when she won the quote, unquote, won the Arizona pageant. You know, I think that was that was part of the part of her training, part of the deal going on because they have, if you look at Timothy Charles Olmsted and Jesse Saboeder and that that stuff there, they they have a cover life. You know? It might be a Christian cover life, but you wanna know what the other stuff is.
You know? And there's underground cities and, you know, Valhalla is one of them. Ragnarok and one they call Mars, I think that one's under Area 51. And the Emerald City, that's under the pentagram. And I don't know. I could see where people wouldn't wanna believe any of that either. But
[03:30:03] Unknown:
Or was that Crystal City?
[03:30:07] Unknown:
Crystal City, there by DC. Right? The foreground. Mhmm. Mhmm. Near, right by the graveyard. Remember DW talking about going there, you know, between flights and some hotel there, and it had a rotating restaurant or whatever on top. Forget which one it was. Looked it up at the time of the Hilton or I nothing at Hilton maybe. I don't know. One of them. Interesting time to be alive for sure.
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Mers, Matthew sixteen twenty eight. Go ahead and read it.
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Okay. Let me look it up. Oh, let me get my Bible. I got it right here. Matthew sixteen twenty eight. I don't know
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it often.
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Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. We don't really know who he was talking about, though, do we? Or what happened in between there?
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I mean, we know, here one of the things that filter says is important. You gotta know who's speaking, who the audience is, and what the context is. Yeah. He would say that the apostles and Jesus were talking only to the tribes.
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That's
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it. Well, you know, the the apostles, the, you know, disciples, they were they were of the tribe, the the tribes, plural. You know, he had then Benjamin,
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right, with Paul. But they had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior is the point.
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Oh, yes. Right. Right. But I mean, as far as now someone got really irritated with me because they really knew their scriptures. It was years ago Because, everyone's repeating, and you you will do greater things than I did, you know, raising the dead and healing the, you know, the crippled and the blind and everything. Right? And, so they're they're thinking, oh, me. I'm gonna do that. When you hear people say this all the time, and it they're taking it out of context, he was speaking to his disciples. We may or may not be able to do that, but that's not who he was speaking to.
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You know? Because we'll judge angels.
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What's that?
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Paul says we will judge angels.
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Yep. Yep. Some of them need judging too.
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Well, there's a lot of them who are on the wrong side. So I sent you a thing on a guide by called Melito from Sardis. This goes to show you about the canon of the church. This guy is second century church from Sardis, and he's going to Palestine to find out where the canon comes from of the Old Testament because obviously the church doesn't know. So he's like the first guy who collects this evidence, but he doesn't say in his journey who he talked to, where the evidence came from. Nothing.
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Not a thing. Is,
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seven minutes ago.
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Yeah.
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So and and and this is coming from Pharisees in that area probably, which are trying who are the enemy of Christ and are gonna want to exclude books that are gonna have truth in them, especially if it goes against their doctrine. So I'm looking at all of this more and more skeptical, especially the Old Testament is complete. Just throwing it out there though. I'm certainly not one way or the other, but, mostly because of the evidence that we have from sealed by the king, that's a big factor in it. But maybe there these books are still missing, yet God saw that what was done in 1611 was adequate for what his needs were.
Who knows? Mhmm.
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Yeah. There's supposed to be a four volume, large volume leather bound Bibles that were found, you know, like, up in Canada, and they're in the British Museum now.
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I mean, but this guy, Melito, he's a column of bishop, I guess, at the time. He's they don't know what it is, and they're going to Palestine to figure it out. Mhmm. And he's writing to one of his brothers at home about you know, because he's doing it like for his brother who really wanted to know what the old testament consisted of.
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Pretty strange.
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Have you guys heard of a car called a Lucid, l u c I d.
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Yep. Very, very, very quick car, all electric, obviously. And the name, obviously, is not
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Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. I saw one this morning. I think I've seen several around here in the Vegas area.
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There's a
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link.
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Well, I'm about five or ten minutes away from work, and that driver, I guess, did quit. They're wanting to throw couple more days on me.
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Oh, wow.
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I haven't consented to it. But
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yeah. Looks like a Knight Rider SUV.
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One I saw was more of a car configuration, but it looked like, remember that movie, The Car? That demonic car?
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Yes. What was it called the car?
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Yeah. It was called the car. It goes back in, what, 7576.
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Awesome. This thing is deep like my car pretty much, like they all are right now with almost no back window, like they're trying to force you to use the the camera for backup. I hate that thing. Can't see what's behind you.
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It was kinda demonic, the car. Uh-huh. That car kinda looked demonic.
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Mhmm.
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Like, I'm driving a Power Mobile. Get out of my way.
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But they're sitting in the front of it? Is the engine where's the engine? Wait a minute. This ad, it has real fast ad here. Like, stop. I wanna see that part. They have the hood up. They're sitting inside it, eating. Where? I guess because it's electric. You wanna be sure and sit on the battery every chance you get.
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Yeah. Arced it out like a Volkswagen. That's it's under the back seat.
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Oh, is it?
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No.
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That's funny. Speaking of Volkswagen, my little old Volkswagen well, it was before it was even mine, but it was parked down here where I was camping, and it's like a bowl shaped area. You go down in right and there is a really big storm. And I so I got in the back. I'm like, oh, and then I'm watching all the lightning and everything around. And and I went to start it and just went clunk. And I thought, oh, no. You know, it's not like they're gonna get a tow truck down in there. Right? But I had the manual in there, and I said, and I looked and, sure enough, where I was jumping around on the back seat, it knocked loose the corrosion on the battery. So I just had to brush that off, and then it was fine.
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Oh. Yeah.
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But that corrosion is acid.
[03:41:15] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. I didn't brush it off with my hand. That's for sure. Yeah.
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Does the car have any body rust on it? And New Jersey, of course, it does.
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I haven't had it for over a year now, and the guy has it running that took it. Oh. A friend of mine, yeah, saw it over parked by his girlfriend's house. I thought out in the yard by his barn. And one time, not too long ago, I just was out for a ride after running errands and came around by there, and he was out in the mower. And I'm, like, waving, and he's looking at me like, who is that? So I don't know if he recognized him or not. Funny. But, yeah, he has it running. He said he I could drive it again, but I'm not gonna press him on that. But I need do need to find the whatchamacallit?
The transfer to him, I guess, legally. But the girlfriend's house is I thought she did it lived with him. I didn't realize that, anyway, it's not that terribly far, and it's the dirt road, and so he probably doesn't. He might have put a tag on it. I don't know. I didn't ask, but you wouldn't need to. Nice little bug. Weren't that many miles on that engine either.
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What? Under a 100 thou?
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Yeah. It had been replaced. I forget just when, but there weren't a whole lot of miles put on it after. It only had well, this is this will be the fourth owner.
[03:43:38] Unknown:
Last night, you would have wanted to be in the room with us. I used the n word. No answer?
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Oh, you used the word national?
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No. The n I word with the bigger.
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Oh, that word. Mhmm. Yep.
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Yep. They have Yeah. There were these
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a holes crossing the street on a red light just taking their time and burning my time up. It's like I had something to get done, you know, at work, and they're bad doing that. So I said something to the guys loudly and with attitude.
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Well, you need a horn that says n word, please.
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That would be funny.
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Or you can pull up Bruce Willis and have one of those signs. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I hate blank blank.
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Old dudes in a loose movie.
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Or, like, did you ever see the Groove two? Yeah. It's one of those old comedy flicks. And a guy was in, like, a space suit or something like that. And he went across the tracks, and then he yelled,
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it worked It started running. Yeah. But the sad fact is, at least in America, oh my god. It's the end of the world. Say that, but we can say every other racial slur of any other nation. Alright. We And those people don't go crazy. They just look at you like you're nuts, but they don't go crazy. You can call every white person in the world a Nazi. Right? How's that sound? We can call you wiggers. We can call you crackers. We can call you this, that, and the other. I'm just saying it's only the other folks that go crazy. Now I think it's a cultural issue, not really a person person thing. They've been taught and brainwashed and thinking, oh my god. That's the worst word in the world. And and I don't think they even really know what it is in terms of the root word and, you know, why it's there and what it was originally meant for, and now it's been turned into some evil slang word over the last forty years or maybe fifty, but at least forty.
Depending on if you wanna throw Jim Crow law and in that era, then the opposite is born forty years, but they've all been brainwashed. I mean, they they still want the race war, the so called government, yet they haven't gotten it yet. At least they're smart enough not to do that. You know, those people.
[03:47:54] Unknown:
Yo, Brent. I sent you a a a link with all those other videos of, the best of prior. And in in one of those videos is a native of he brought it on a native American comedian. And that guy was funny Funny. And, he he was he was using all the stereotypes that, white people use for Indians. It was quite interesting. Very interesting. I forgot. He had he had a name for, you know, the the white people have, a name for the Mexicans who call wetbacks, but he had a great name for the white pilgrims. Oh, shoot. I forget the name. Anyway, you gotta watch that too. Pilgrims.
The White Pilgrims. Oh, pilgrims. Oh, okay. Yes. You know, because we we always call them the the people in Texas call the Mexican that come over the board the wetbacks. But he had a great name for the white pilgrims. Fascinating how he used, our stereotypes to, have fun and, use satire at yield.
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Okay. Yeah. I'm not I'm not aware of the Pilgrim one, but I have to look at I'd have to look it up in a slang word dictionary, which I believe one doesn't exist.
[03:49:41] Unknown:
Jimmy, thanks for your mail. George here. I owe you a net response, so I'm just checking with the county.
[03:49:52] Unknown:
You can get the copies off the MERS website, but like I said, it takes personal information I don't have. So since it's under your wife's name, your wife's number will have to be used in order to pull data for that merge. Merge with the keeping the data. And what I mean by data is the alleged transfer that never really happens with the mortgage of the note. And, obviously, they separated. They're set in the other, and you probably know the rest of the story on that. But, one of the goals other than having a copy that I can read without watermarks is in there. If you're able to pull the proper paperwork in there, you should look for paperwork that says it was discharged and paid off, and there will be a date on one of the pieces of paper along with it. And that's that's fuel for the fire to prove if one were to take it, take the long stretch on their mortgage and proving it that was paid, as they would say, technically discharged. But point is you wouldn't owe anything neither would your wife or whoever's name it's under under I don't wanna really say fraud, but more okay.
You weren't fully clear on what happened and this, that, and the other. Because if we go from the angle of fraud, we don't want to include ourselves in the fraud. So in a way, I can't think of the word, but, there's another word that takes points of that so you don't get yourself cornered in case that whatever used against you or somebody in court, or somebody would say, or the opposing attorney, but pull, if it's probable, why you in? Why why you include yourself in the problem? And then you're kind of caught, even though that's kind of a scratch. But, you know, if you look at it that way, you're like, oh, yeah. Well, you consent to the fraud. You knew it was fraud, but you kept going.
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Right. More like disclosure or whatever?
[03:52:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That sounds more yeah. I couldn't think of the other legal term, but, basically, just like in a contract, you know, there has to be meeting on the minds, this, that, and the others. Technically, eight different things, but the basins are off to six. And without full disclosure, for example, or who's playing what role and why and who's benefiting from the role. Now if you look at your mortgage or your deed of deed of trust, It could be on the first, second, and third, give or take, page with in regards to who you or your wife, whoever signed the note, allegedly made Mirth Company the beneficiary of your note and or deed of trust. So, basically, when somebody were to hypothetically pay off their mortgage ten year, fifteen year AMR, or typical thirty year, or they take a strong-arm ten, because you or whoever signed the note did not understand what they were signing and reading.
The security in the note and the proceeds go back to them. Now not all the proceeds go to MERS, obviously, but they get the note and for what they know how to do and do with it through a third party. They'll sell that note over and over and over, let it mature, rinse and repeat forever and ever. Basically, your mortgage, would would eventually be worth, you know, billions and billions of dollars. Point is, I think within the first what's it? I wanna say sixty or ninety days. Obviously, they saw it over and over. Like, I looked at yours. They sold it. Their servicing agency is not the original one.
Oh, the other reason why we want the documents from Merced, on the back of the documents, the promissory notes, it's gonna have a big wonderful stamp in black normally. They'll say page to the order of and it should be probably the first bank that you took the loan out with. And then what we wanna see is subsequent paid to the orders on various other notes that are being sold and transmitted because you accidentally give them power of attorney and power to do so within the contract. And you'll find out there's a blank endorsement, basically, that they paid the order of and then blank and then signed by whoever the bank is that it was sold to and they rinse and repeat. Technically, what you're looking at is a, lack of, well, scratch that. There's a break in the chain of title because it wasn't officially transferred to bank a, b, c, d, so on and so forth.
By being by having that, technically, the original bank who wrote to pay to the order of blah blah blah bank is the originator in the sense of how they do things, and they're the original as they want you to believe the creditor. Everybody else is just kinda piggybacking off of something, but never never actually took full was it full full transfer of the note, which is technically illegal in the sense of the perfect title issue where it's not perfected because there was really never a transfer because the reason why they couldn't transfer it because they already sold it. They sold it and, you know, threw it on the open market, the secondary market, which is the stock market, which is technically if you look under their, SEC form, to find out they are not allowed to sell and double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip, so on and so forth.
On the secondary market, they're only supposed to get the first market, which is technically through the treasury and getting the OID and pulling credits from your wife's account and or yours depending on how many signatures are on the note. And that's where they get a loan called at par value. They don't get the full amount. They get it at par value. And then, technically, the bank is supposed to pay that loan off from the treasury, but because the way the paperwork is written, technically, the debts that debt is transferred to you within, you know, your mortgage, just that, and fees and everything else. And you're technically paying off their debt while they're busy selling the living hell out of stuff.
Double dip, triple dip, you you you name how many dips you wanna throw in there, and they're making stupid money. Now, obviously, this is on the right side of the ledger. The ledger you're not supposed to see, the public's not supposed to see. Just because the bank says, Oh, here's my quarterly earnings for this and how many mortgages do we have out and this how much outstanding debt we have blah, blah, blah. Okay. That's all in the public ledger. Who gives a hoot? I want to see the other side of the ledger. I wanna see where the real money, as they would say, is being made.
And that's the other side of the books. You know, when you got the public side, the private side, private side is gonna show you or your wife or whoever signs the the, promissory note is the original creditor. The other thing you can go do, which I didn't put in the email, go down to your taxation office, your proper tax office. You you might have to do a FOIA or go to different locations, the minimum, who you're talking to, because not all of them might know what you're looking for. But you need to ask for since you open this up, and I think in 2023, you wanna get every listing of every home exemption that was put on the property address.
And what you're looking for in there, you wanna see the bank and in which banks are putting, foreclosure, how home exemptions on the property address. And if they give you the right form on there, the bank is gonna say that they are the borrower and that Merce is the beneficiary. Now you you should not find your name or your wife's name that I think of as the creditor. But the point is it shows you, okay. Well, the bank is the borrower. And when you put two and two together, you're borrower of what? Oh, wait. Who's the creditor? I'm the creditor. Now, obviously, there's people wear different hats. In the public, you're the debtor. On the private side, you're the creditor.
Hence, the way that note is written when it says lender is blah blah blah bank, Borrower is blank blank blank for the purposes of this notes or security instrument that they like to reword it on the document. Basically, they they switch a bunch of things in there where it's really talking about you, but they switch in reverse roles with putting their name in certain spots with yours, but to put your name or your wife's name. Or if it's co signed together, then it would be miss it'd be both names. That's part of the process of updating that need of trust and firing the trustee.
The trustee is, I don't have it in front of me, but if you look on there, just look at who the trustee is. Basically, we're gonna replace the trustee. We're gonna make the beneficiary of that document your trust. The trustee is going to be you or whoever the trustee is for the trust. And then, obviously, long story short, you're gonna fire the trustee that is in place of that note currently. You're gonna give him a nice formal letter. Such and such has been moved or sold to a trust. Blah de blah de blah. You are hereby fired fired fired for well, keep me at legal terms.
Not always for your judiciary duty under this deed of trust. I know you don't have to sit there and explain what they're not doing. That's for them to figure out. Point is you're putting them on point. The other thing is I don't believe I'm pretty sure the Germaine Act is still in effect where you can legally, in their eyes, move it to a trust without invoking the due on, due on sale clause, which is in there. I looked at it. It's it's hidden, but it's in there. They don't call it due on or due on sale clause. It's they use, like, basic words due on sale or something to that effect, and it's a clause within a clause, if you will.
Because, obviously, who wants to bring their mortgage up right away because they moved it into something that they don't want you to move. The reason why they don't want you to move it into a trust is because they can't really deal with you. They're dealing with a servicer who's not acting in trust. With a trust, you deal a trust with a trust, a trustee with a trustee. And because they're not doing that once it's officially done, technically, they shouldn't be collecting from you because then at that point, the funds or the instrument in which they moved into their trust, that trustee would have to communicate with your trustee your trust trustee and then handle the account that way. But, of course, they don't wanna they don't wanna expose that too much.
We've had people who have done and moved things properly to a trust, their mortgage that I'm speaking of, and some have actually gotten it discharged. Not that they had to write any words saying, well, discharge this or anything to that effect. It's because they moved it into a trust. And by happenstance, that company or the bank or the servicing agency and the bank at the time, whoever allegedly held the note, did not want to fight that and they gave them a release of mortgage. Now these are one offs. This is not the, normal business practices, but it can happen.
This is not to get your your, ants in the pants to be like, oh my god. Oh, this is great. Yeah. Well, it could happen. Obviously, we want to because that'd be one of the easiest ways to win without having to argue anything. Basically, by your actions, deeds and actions. Oh my god. Oh, they know something. Okay. We we don't want that in the public. So you were saying something earlier?
[04:03:15] Unknown:
No. That that's, that's excellent. I will probably have more questions, of course. Do you, you called it the Germaine,
[04:03:26] Unknown:
the Germaine clause or something? That's the Germaine Saint something something basically, I don't call it provision, but the term law protections within the mortgage, field of study where they couldn't force a sale or, bring the note forward against you, the borrower, and pay up whatever you owe in arrears in order to move it into a trust. And I explained earlier why they don't wanna do that, but that came along so you didn't have to deal with that. But it needs to be put in a, irrevocable trust, not a revocable, and not a living revocable. If it's if you're making a living one, it needs to be living irrevocable trust.
[04:04:14] Unknown:
Correct. Okay. Thank you.
[04:04:18] Unknown:
Now along with that, since you or your wife are a combination of you and your wife, give them power of attorney without realizing it. Again, it's not really gonna say in any of your of your documents in mortgages or even your car contract that I've ever seen. Oh, you so and so get full rights called, power of attorney in this blah blah blah. Basically, the hidden word that means the same thing is when it says you give security interest in blah blah blah, fill in the blank. And to add on to that, they love the section, at least in your contract here that we have. If you go to page, I don't know, seven or eight regarding e electronic signatures and the signature act of blah blah blah. I think most of us know, at least in common law and as far as back as we can go with contract law, these be wet ink signature.
Now I don't know any studies if you go far back where it says it must be handwritten. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I've not gone that far with it. But my point is it needs to be a real life signature and not some stamped version or printed version of a signature. Yet the opposite escape this so they can continue with their fraud digitally, they pass, you know, the signature act, this and that, and all this other crap in the last fifteen I wanna say ten or fifteen years where they slowly, you know, have people, oh, here's your iPad. Here's your pad. Just just sign here. We're not gonna print out the document. We're not gonna sit here and ask you for your wet ink signature with a blue pen or black pen. Yet they can get away with the additional version where they obviously because you gave them permission in in that section on page seven or eight or give or take on the electronic signature section.
Basically, it says without saying we can sign any and all documents with your name period. We'll just superficially throw it on there and copy paste if you will. And it's perfectly okay because you said so. Again, that has to do with, oh, you give us security interest in blah, blah, blah, or you give such and such as collateral for blah, blah, blah. But again, when we're reading these documents, we don't understand what is the collateral? What what does the bank in this particular instance have to put up? Well, we know, called sovereign junk or whatever, but in contract law and and with banking, they haven't put up damn shit.
The point is what was supposed to happen, you were supposed to get the house as the perk or the prize because you, John Smith, or Jane Doe Smith, gave the bank who was interested in purchasing a security instrument, I e the promissory note. And that was technically the deal. But, obviously, as you know, mortgages do not happen that way because they make you sign the second part, which is the the mortgage at the closing table, the warranty deed, the deed of trust, which is called it's called the mortgage depending on what state you're in. And then the promise turned out. So there's three parts to that.
Okay. You were saying what now?
[04:07:56] Unknown:
No. That yeah. I I was following you just because somebody had proven that the payment the bank got is from the Fed anyway. Right? So that's kinda what Well, it's a treasury check that actually has you or your wife's name or it both signed. It would have
[04:08:10] Unknown:
both your names on it. Or hypothetically, if they really wanna do it right, it'd be two different checks. Partial credit would come out of her account. Partial credit would come out of your account. On the top left, it should say United States Treasury blah blah blah with your name written out. So it looks and appears like you paid them, which you did. But because you gave them rights and titles, if you will, to the extent of you give us security interest blah blah blah and power of attorney within that without, again, without it literally saying that. Okay. We can copy paste your name, do whatever we want. Okay. We're gonna take this check and sign it over to us because you gave us the right to use your signature, copy paste, do whatever the hell we want. Right? Oh, plus we have power of attorney. So we have all the power as if I was you. So we're gonna make you sign the check over to us and then still pretend that we gave you a loan, which we didn't give you a jack.
And then we're gonna put all x amount of credits, because there's no money, into what we call an escrow account, which technically has a lot of the credits that technically should take care of everything in terms of the money, if you have an HOA, this and that. Because under the definition of a finance charge, it means all charges including keyword is all. If you look at your mortgage or when you're at the signing table, they should ask you or have asked you or even if you as the buyer had made a statement, do not take property tax, for example, out of our escrow. We will take care of that separately.
The reason why it's an escrow is because, again, when you look up what a finance charge is under banking, it's the sum of all charges. Excuse me. Let me correct that. So sum of all charges, I e, HOAs, if you have it, this, that, and the other property taxes. Technically, it's all paid for. What we need to be doing, it's not as easy as just saying, oh, mister property tax people and calling the service company and saying, well, just pull out an escrow, but my rates on my mortgage should not go up because property tax went up. No. It's already technically covered for the extent of the notes, which typically is thirty years. I'd like to take a five year or a ten arm, ten year arm, fifteen, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. But my point is they're dipping in and out left and right, hoping you don't know any of this information, and know any better.
And keep in mind, all all these companies are compartmentalized just because you talked to Joe Schmo, and you're talking kinda like me where you're putting all this spilling up the beans, they might not even have a clue what the hell you're talking about. It's not because they wanna hide it necessarily. It really I think it really it depends who you're talking to and what department. If you get to the right department or securities department or the underwriter, they know a lot more to an extent of what you would be talking about. And sometimes you can get things done, but normally it has to be done in writing and has to go through their legal team, this and that, and you scare the shit out of them basically.
[04:11:28] Unknown:
All all part of the Ponzi bubble that's about to pop.
[04:11:36] Unknown:
Oh, well, yeah. One of the largest Ponzi schemes in the world. But, anyway, yeah, our goal is to well, I think you're already talking I don't know. It was last call. I mean, last week, you're or last few days, you were talking about making a trust and moving whatever into your trust. So if I heard correctly and that was you, then that's a good thing. We can try to get your mortgage in the right place and hope for the best depending on where you wanna go with it. Again, just because you're moving into a trust and you notify everybody that's supposed to be notified, doesn't mean that they're just gonna stop trying to collect. If they stop collecting and send you a release of mortgage, this and that and all that fancy junk, then high five, live on.
[04:12:24] Unknown:
Right. And then if they do try to collect, do they usually try to do that in federal court or
[04:12:31] Unknown:
No. No. It it'll it'll be local courts, that will try to we'll have foreclosure this and that. Now I didn't look in your state if it was nonjudicial or judicial. You do not wanna be a nonjudicial state if at all possible because it's nearly impossible. I think you get one pride before the judge to do anything or say anything because that's the very skinny, if you will, of due process where if you do it in a judicial state, your foreclosure can take six months, a year, two years. It depends how far you go with what you're doing or how you can stall these asses or they stall you or they get a summary judgment right away, this, that, and the other.
But I I rather see them in federal court. But there there are other laws pertaining to why banks cannot actually operate within the 50 states of the union. I don't have any info off the top of my head at the moment. I've read about it. I'm still studying about it. But, another reason why the banks after 2008 crashed, if you've noticed, such and such bank NA, National Association, They couldn't really operate too much under the other names. So secretly, they had to change it in that sense and create a national association. You have to research why they changed that. Again, I don't I I didn't memorize it, but I I read into it. I'm like, okay. At the time when I was reading it, I said, okay. Well, that makes sense. What do you what else are you hiding? Or when you heard Wachovia went out of business or whatever, no. They didn't go out of business. They changed names or were rebought or whatever because they got caught on the public side. Oh, there's too much interfere, and we have to run extreme amount of interference and tell the lying public, well, there's securities fraud. There's this fraud. There's that fraud. If this gets out and people wake up, oh, hell no.
The whole banking thing goes collapsed overnight. So they have to hide it. Or, like, when you read about Bank of America's charge $26,000,000,000 in some fraud or whatever whatever story the mainstream throws you at, normally, it's because they're the whistleblower, whether it works for the bank or not, that did it correctly, sued them, whatever you wanna call it, and really spilled the beans on the securities fraud. And it was such a big deal. It's like, well, I can really hurt your bank. I don't care how many billions you have. We can get you, decommissioned, if you will, from the Securities and Exchange Commission. Because you understand banks are in the business of buying and selling securities.
And under this current so called laws from 1939 to 1941, here's an exchange act of 1939 and the other act I can't think of top of my head in nineteen forty something. That's how banks make their so called money. And if they get too many dings by, the whistleblower to the Securities and Exchange Commission, They're licensing to move, sell, and do what they will with securities that they've been doing for since they were enacted back in 1939. They will not be able to do anymore, which means they go out of business. Oh, we can't have that. Can't have that.
Okay. How much do we pay you to cut the hell up? Oh, I want 10% of your company or something ridiculous.
[04:16:14] Unknown:
Go ahead. Right. For for leverage, is it worth filing some kind of complaint in the process of also, you know, doing some of these other moves just to put, you know, to try to have more leverage? Or
[04:16:28] Unknown:
not in the way that I think you're thinking. You're gonna you're gonna put liens on your property after we get going with this. You're gonna put a less pendants on your property. You're gonna put a mechanics lien on your property. As for the mechanics lien, you wanna put it for at least three times the value of the house in which you purchased it. If you purchased it for $400, multiply it by three, that's the minimum that you start with the mechanics lien. Now keep in mind, mechanics liens can only be put on according to law or so called law by living, breathing, sentient being, man or woman. A corporation cannot remove a mechanics lien whatsoever.
So my point is it's a huge piece of leverage when you know first in line, first in time regarding, oh, who pays off what when there are liens on a piece of property, whether it be a car mechanics, a car or a house or a boat or whatever. And there's a bunch of creditors coming after you, all of a sudden, they gotta figure out, oh, we gotta pull the public documents on who's got lien and who's got first rights. And depending on how bad they really want that money well, depending on how long they wanna leave the lien on there. Because laws are you know, there's a ten year, fifteen, twenty, so on and so forth where okay. They're they'll just leave it. And you wanna hope, okay. I'll have this for ten years, twenty years, whatever, and then forget to renew it, And that'd be great.
Or they would just not bother with it because they found out the first in line first in time guy or woman or whoever's got the claim. As I'll say, a $10,000,000 lien and they're only looking for a 100,000 or whatever, is it really worth it? It may be. Because if you think about it again, if the lien is already recording and it's good for ten years and I have to renew it, I mean, what what hurts them by just sitting there waiting for a time clock to digitally tell them in ten years, oh, you need to renew this in the computer. You know? But if they were following the so called law and your mechanic cleaning is that big, and let's say you did default on your mortgage for 400,000 or whatever the heck it it may be, technically, they couldn't do a a damn thing to the property because you knowing yourself have a mechanic's lien on the property for three times as much. Fine.
You want your property? You wanna foreclose? Well, fine. Yeah. I'll take, $1,200,000 right now. Yeah. You can have the house all you want. Go ahead. Have it.
[04:19:08] Unknown:
Right. So there's no so the somebody that's on the deed could could do a mechanics lien? Or
[04:19:22] Unknown:
Yeah. You're gonna lean yourself. You're gonna UCC one, lean yourself. You're gonna lean the note. You're gonna lean, was it not the prop yeah. The notes, the number on the deed of trust, less pendants on the property. The reason why we do less pendants is because there is a there's a defect in the title chain of title, and they get a cap to correct that in order to fix that or in order to also sell the house. So that's the other thing. Other than the mechanics clean issue, you got less pendants each year. Okay. Well, when somebody's buying a house and they go get the appraiser and say, well, run the run the address and tell me if we have clean title. Well, they don't have clean title because there's an issue. The issue says list pendants, which means fine. Yeah. You can buy the house with the liz pendants, but there are hidden issues, possibly public if you dig far enough with this house that you're gonna have to deal with. That includes other liens with the house, which would be a UCC one or a tax lien or some other bullshit lien that is not a mechanic's lien, then you're inheriting those issues and you do not want that. That also makes it undesirable as a property to sell.
And when your realtor or whoever puts up including the title company when they're gonna try to put the house for sale or the property, they're really not gonna like to do that because there's a less pendants on it. They're gonna have to fix their crappy crappy chain of title, which is never correct because there's the note separates from the mortgage. And according to the law of 18, even in court cases 18, what, with 68 give or take, It's null and void if both of them are not together because it's it's it it gives the it gives the full value of the note. Now that you split it, now it's not valued at the, you know, 500,000, 400,000, or whatever it's valued at.
You you need both according to their own laws and own rules. You know, it's not me making it up. It's it's their junk. But even with all this, I'm I'm I'm sure people have heard plenty of times. It's it's hard to get it brought up in any court, federal, state, to bring it up, let alone win because the courts, you know, they side with the bank even though they may know you're absolutely right, this and that. The other thing is if you get a jury of alleged 12, do they really want the secret out? I forget. There is a case that somebody did win. It was I think it was 1986. In that particular case, cannot be used anymore in any cases further from that. Basically, you can't you can't put it in your in in your, I won't call it pleadings, but, in your court documents, you can't bring them up as evidence.
Right. Because, again, it would destroy the banking system overnight for for forget the fraud that was dealing with in 02/2008. It's it'd be even bigger than that. And all the banks would wouldn't know what to do because they couldn't sell to any other bank or any other holder because nobody wants it. Even though it's been milked left and right, up and down. I mean, I I think an average every mortgage is worth at least four or five hundred million within the first ten years. If you go the whole stretch of ten, fifteen, thirty years, it's about 4,000,000,000, 5,000,000,000 each. And it it's amazing how how banks cry poor, yet on the private side, they have probably trillions of dollars. I'm like, oh, fuck yourself.
[04:23:10] Unknown:
It's funny. I had a friend that was, he was a quadriplegic and his, got hurt as wife decided to divorce him. And, we tried to say they tried to kick him out of probate court. We tried to kick him out of the house. You know, he's got a accessible house that the actual state had paid for the ramp and all that. They tried to they put a Liz Pendants on the property to try to prevent the sale. You know? But I think because it was a probate action, it might have preceded that or something. So, I don't know a lot about Liz Peddens, but that that's one case that I remember. They just I was there the day they tossed him out, change himself to his hospital bed.
[04:24:00] Unknown:
Well, the the other reason why it probably didn't work is you have to remove the power of attorney. By having a power of attorney on file, where where they have one on file because, again, you gave them permission without knowing it. Any action you do that is that you're in a position where you can't do it under trust, under this particular type of trust, they can remove it. Because remember, Mercer is the beneficiary. The trustee is whatever the bank is. Right? Okay. That leaves you as what the grantor. Okay. Well, whoop dee doo. What power does a grantor have other than you just created a whole eight page note or eight page document that says you can do this, this, and this, and I choose so and so to be this, so and so to be that. And I leave myself hanging high and dry.
But by firing them like you would an attorney, you would still use the same form. It's part of attorney form. You notify the IRS. You notify them, all parties involved, including the original creditor and the original bank because, remember, it's being sold over and over. So you would wanna try to figure out who to notify, and that's every single one of the bastards, including the current service here, which I know is changed on yours, based on what I saw or little information I had access to. I'm like, okay. Okay. You sold this. So that's on this. I don't know how many times, but they probably sold it at least twice, three times maybe.
And then putting yourself in place of that power of attorney. So when you do a list pendants and you do a UCC one and various other things to lock in the property and move it into your truck. Again, if they are actually going to follow the so called law, they can't do squat to it. After they decide not to follow the so called laws, even though you've taken all the correct positions, you've done this and that, and you have a very good paper trail, then, yeah, technically, they can do whatever they want because they're that crooked.
[04:26:09] Unknown:
You know, it's amazing. I and I don't think they did this UCC one, and I don't think I don't know about that power of attorney either in that case. It was long ago when I was the IRS. You can you can before you,
[04:26:23] Unknown:
you can pull that information doing a FOIA. Because I can't do UCC ones because it's gonna show you a chain of fraud, and they can't have that documented fraud. It's another reason why there's a a break in the chain of title. You have to remove the so called lien. It has to be remember, it has to be free and unencumbered of the title. Right? Well, you can't transfer title if somebody's got a lien on it. So if they were to take up the lien from the bank number one who was the original alleged creditor and say, paste the order of John Smith Bank blah blah blah, which is not them, obviously. They sold the notes. Okay. I've got to go in the system, the UCC, release the lien, sell it to so and so, put in a lawns on the bad boy, you know, without recourse, blah blah blah, this, that, and the other because oh, okay. If there's a defect in this, we're not responsible, but we're still gonna sell you this note. It's basically what it says. Second bank would have to put a lien on that to secure secure their security interest in it, but they never do it.
Again, they can't have the fraud and a paper trail of the fraud. They gotta just hide it because people do not know this, and nobody's none the wiser. You know, here here we are. Everybody with mortgages, you know, everybody just about has been through it unless you're a trust fund baby or something or you had hand me downs or whatever.
[04:27:57] Unknown:
You know what's amazing is, we talked about UCC-one and a UCC-three, But, there on that, the Trim tab website, it was actually a PDF. I should send it to you. It's an actual case where I don't know if you knew Jimbo out of Tampa, I think they're out of. But he had, him and his brother have been dabbled in the UCC. He owns a property that, he didn't even know was under foreclosure because he had I guess he was living with his girlfriend at the time or whatever, but, he just basically just let the property go. He figured out a thing. I can't pay you know, I'm underwater on it, whatever.
But he did some research afterwards, and he found out he had filed a UCC one naming the hospital. And then the foreclosure case got got basically, they the the hospital was in Detroit. So here's a property is in is in Florida. The secretary of state where the attorney general became the registered agent basically in Florida, they requested, they because the subpoena got lost, they claimed, and they, wanted the case basically dismissed. And then so the foreclosure case was dismissed because they supposedly, you know, subpoena got lost or something like that. They used some excuse like you're saying. And then, like, two years later, the whole mortgage disappeared as well. It was it was canceled or whatever.
So that power, that UCC is really something. And the fact that because for the some something with the estate, you know, something with the name. Right? They use that UCC one and then the naming the the hospital was the one who had gotten the consideration, I guess, from the government in the first place, right, to register the register the event of the birth. And somehow that tied into getting these two actions. I can show I can send you that case of your interest. It's very interesting.
[04:30:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's always good to get different angles on things and see what works and whatnot because certain things, it may work a few times, and they they also have some way around it because they'll make up some policy within the bank or some crap. We we don't accept that even though federal law says we should, but they know people don't have the money, to take it to federal court or whatever and prove it beyond reasonable doubt. And then the fact that how loaded the dice are against us in any court, it's like, okay.
You you kinda have a spot of balls and, you know, what it is. Not because we're all chicken and we're we're we're wusses. It's just they made the system and it's working, believe it or not, as perfect as they made it to be. It's working exactly what it's supposed to do. Yet people are on the fence saying, oh, no. It's so crooked and this well, it is, but it's not because they built it this way. It's doing exactly what they're what it's doing. Yes. There are a few cracks here and there, but like I just said, they have some way around it. Usually, it's gonna be some policy. It's not really a mechanism that they can enforce by law. It's just, oh, no. Our policy says, well, we ignore this or whatever until it becomes a serious matter, which would be federal court this or that or a well written notice with the certain information on it proving that you probably have enough information to drown them.
And because of the amount of money that they're making on these mortgages, it's like, well, okay. We're not gonna fight you in court. We're just gonna release it, and it's out of the public eye as if it never happened. And you post probably might not go out and boast about it and screw up the method for yourself and maybe your future purchase or whatever. But that has to do with proving securities fraud and pulling a well documented and correctly done forensic audit with a certified witness. Because that certified witness, if pulled into court, whether it's state or federal, I would keep it out of the county court because that's, the wrong venue.
They're gonna explain that report, and that report is gonna show eventually who the creditor of the alleged amount on the promissory note. And they're caught their their pants down. And, again, they don't want that out in court if it ever gets that far. It just really depends, but that's basically the end game there because it's gonna go back all the way to the OID. And if you get the OID and you shove that in evidence and put it into evidence, that's gonna be very evident to the judge even though he's for the bank or she's for the bank because they have another your dirty deal on the back end. Probably done with some contracts. So, you know, it's okay. Well, whose contract do we follow? Blah blah blah blah.
No ID is gonna show it came from your account that's magically not supposed to exist, which is tied to the Social Security number in that account. And if anybody's wondering the whole bullshit deal of, oh my god. Social Security is gonna come out in '19, 2046. We're gonna have $0. No. No. You're not. The money comes out of your trust. Hello? Everybody's paying into it. Yes. They're if you're talking about that money that is being pulled out of your paycheck, yeah, on the public side, they're probably telling you the truth. But on the private side where the funds actually come from, no. There's plenty. Why? Because it's coming from your own account.
So that's why I was laughing on the TV. I know it's gonna end in such and such, or we're gonna lower, the amount that somebody gets or we're not going to want to increase it, you let's say, 4% per year to keep up with inflation. I mean, from what I've looked at statistically, if it's right, the average person who brings Social Security is maybe 1,500 a month if you're lucky. That's probably kinda high. I think the average is more like a thousand. But if you do the math and the time you do at 60 or 65 plus 4% a year, that's just being on the low end to keep up with inflation, let alone, okay, do we include in the housing, you know, section where the data is? Because they like to split that and skew that. Oh, this is the, I don't know, call it, like, weights and measures, but the weights and measures are based on food, gas, and this, and everything else is kind of thrown out the window. It's like, well, then your whole chart is skewed off.
But I I think folks should have gotten from the start. I don't care if you start grabbing Social Security twenty years ago. It'd be, you know, four to 8% a year, basically, follow the inflation rate to keep up with the dollar or the so called dollar. And, yes, I I I would have to agree. It's kinda sad where people have to sit there and just think that their Social Security is gonna get a buy even if you've already paid for the house or whatever. I'm like, have you looked at the cost of living aside from not having a mortgage? Okay. Yeah. You know, how much your house repairs? How much is that water heater? How much is lawn service? Dada dada dada. It's like, you're 1,200 a month ain't gonna cut it.
You you should have a few million at least in the bank or at least in in the, if it's not in the bank in cash reserves, you need to have, passive income that's bringing in the money to supplement your thousand dollars or 1,200 or whatever you get for Social Security. I'm not saying everybody can do it. But you know, it's the 401 k thing is, to me a joke. The only reason why I would do it is if the company I work for is gonna match the whole bunch of them yet. And that's the only time I I would say yes, only because you're matching it. Other than that, there's better investments that make a lot more money than a four zero one k.
If you know how to do it right, obviously, it's not for everybody. I'd say, well, go screw your four zero one k.
[04:36:29] Unknown:
Can I ask a question?
[04:36:31] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:36:33] Unknown:
Did you go to the Tom Shaw expert witness CPA course?
[04:36:40] Unknown:
I know what you're talking about. I have the course.
[04:36:44] Unknown:
Really?
[04:36:45] Unknown:
And by the way, he is a lot. He's in he's in Nevada, and he's, he unfortunately doesn't live in a house. He's in an apartment. Not not saying that any gauge or disrespect to him. It's just, you know, I figured with the money he was making in the nineties and 2 thousands, and he'd be doing well from stuff. And I'm not saying he isn't. Maybe he just likes to live simple. Anyway, yeah. He's he's up and still around, but he doesn't really teach anymore because if you listen to his course, things when he was doing it, going around in the circuits, if you will, the circuit, I mean.
Yeah. He made very poignant. Okay. There are folks in here that you can't control that are gonna go to these courses or buy his course and try to scam people or only have 80% of what they need to win in court. But the most important stuff is the 20% that the only way you get it, he makes sure that you're paid legally this and that. You know, he's got checks and balances before he gives you the real meat and potatoes that you need to put it all together in order to win. And then the other plus was because things were rapidly changing so much without him really directly saying it, I mean, yes, this is good. Most of it's true. But let's say in twenty years, I'm not here doing it because I'm retired or maybe he, you know, he ticked the bucket, let's say.
Do you have the knowledge to figure out what's attained so you know what to ask and how to ask it and dah dah dah dah dah while in court? And he makes it very I I mean, it's logical to me, but some people have to hear it because they their their brain just works different. But
[04:38:24] Unknown:
Wow. How'd you get a hold of that course?
[04:38:29] Unknown:
I have ways, but I we can't Yeah. Do do do the do the NDA and how that works. We can't go into that. Yeah. Yeah. That's his that's his NDA. Don't mind.
[04:38:40] Unknown:
Yeah. What part of, Nevada is he in? Is he in the Vegas area?
[04:38:48] Unknown:
Give me a second. Let me I I I think I have it here. Hold on. If if he's close to the Vegas area,
[04:38:57] Unknown:
I could probably, hopefully, go to see him and put him on the air with us.
[04:39:06] Unknown:
Oh, let's see here. Let me see here. Where is it?
[04:39:15] Unknown:
Thought I had it written And and how and how Paul recorded.
[04:39:23] Unknown:
Let's see here. And probably,
[04:39:27] Unknown:
if it was well received or he's you know, he likes it, Murr would probably want him on her show. Maher.
[04:39:42] Unknown:
Possibly. Hold on. I thought you know, I had the information written down. I had his address. I had his number, and now I can't find it. Anyway, he did it back in the early nineties and late nineties on video recorded tape. And he would pretty much self, what's the word? Self self published, self disc because, you know, the information was what it was. You can imagine. Crap ton of work, but it was a 12 plus, well, 11 to 12 plus video cassette tapes series if you bought it unrecorded. Obviously, live is a different thing. And there's two different things. One is courtroom etiquette or critique, and then one was, are you like a bank loan expert witness?
Trade secrets, confidential, only to only to be listened to by individuals assigning the agreement. And that was his agreement. It has been since he created the program. 9798. February, it started dying down. He is also the creator of the Matrix, book version one and two. I forgot the official name. Excuse me for that. Not to get mixed up with Radio Ranch and the Matrix stock thing. That's a different thing. I have his books around here somewhere.
[04:41:17] Unknown:
Other than the two books that I think I think it's two or three books that we have on the matrix stocks. Are there any more item or properties?
[04:41:31] Unknown:
I have to let let me I have a folder. Let let me look up the folder here.
[04:41:37] Unknown:
It's we could probably have Julie go through that, you know, take a look at them and stuff. And since she's into real estate and stuff, she could probably make heads and tails with it. And also be the nexus between what he did and, what's going on now.
[04:42:08] Unknown:
Right. One of his books was America's Hope to Cancel Bank Loans Without Going to Court. He learned secrets from some top level bankers in the eighties, put it together with his knowledge of already doing what he did, in his field of expertise to put it together.
[04:42:33] Unknown:
Does he talk about, every loan is a fraud?
[04:42:39] Unknown:
He talked mainly his main thing that he'd been doing was on bank loans. But basically, loans are pretty much the same thing because they're all done under hopes and dreams. Here's the American dream. Right? Sign here.
[04:42:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Because when he was, teaching his course one time, a guy pulled a lot of students pulled him to the side and told him, did you know every loan is a or bank loan is a fraud? And then he showed him how.
[04:43:15] Unknown:
Okay.
[04:43:16] Unknown:
And Roger talks about that because he was listening to him on the Raycon shortwave back then.
[04:43:25] Unknown:
Let's see here.
[04:43:31] Unknown:
I'm glad I asked that question because it wouldn't have come out. And we talked about that guy periodically. One time we were talking about him for probably about two or three days straight, and we were hunting for his books. How old is he about now? Did you did you meet him in person or just talk to him on the phone or something?
[04:44:05] Unknown:
No. I did my due diligence because somebody else was looking to see if he was live because we're like, wait a second. We're following this man's life. We're getting late information in the sense that, okay, this this is how it was done in the nineties and February, and, obviously, we already know things have changed. And not necessarily because, his information isn't legal in a sense, oh, this is exactly how it works. This is how double entry bookkeeping works to use this other ledger blah blah blah and gap. But we're trying to figure out, well, where in where in the hell is he? Why did he just disappear off the circuit and we haven't had any new books that are updated to reflect, okay, here are the changes as a CPA, this and that, that I found out a, b, c, and d.
Here's revision two or three, dah dah dah dah dah. You know? Okay. I'm looking actually, wait a second. I think I know where I put it. But I don't believe he's married. If I recall, he's living with a girlfriend. I wanna say he's in his seventies, I believe.
[04:45:33] Unknown:
But I was just saying I was just
[04:45:36] Unknown:
to find out where this guy lived, not to be a, a nosy Nancy, but I was like, well, somebody's willing to make that call or happen to be in the area not to bug him, but Right. You know, well, we're bugging him, but we're not bugging him and doing it in a way where it's not invading, if you will. And just kinda get a feel for, well, hey. What's up, man? You you know, I've read your stuff. You you know, the whole spiel and, you know, where you at.
[04:46:04] Unknown:
Well, pretty much. He kinda has a following, you know, in our group.
[04:46:14] Unknown:
Well, yeah. For for good reasons. I mean, if you've listened to his stuff, read his books, or get a really good, grasp on it, you're like, this makes sense. Not that I know anything fully about CPAs, but, you know, I've read, you know, certain amount of things that you gather at least some information. And you're like, okay. Well, I can't find anything wrong with what this guy said. And then, you know, in my mind, I have to apply to what probably was happening back when he was teaching it versus now. Obviously, we would have to contact a bunch of CPAs that really know their CPA business because he states in his some of his lectures, I can't recall in his books, where not every CPA knows certain things. And you gotta have the right level, if you will, with the information. And then even if it's compartmentalized, okay. Well, John's got this. Jake has this. Jill has this. Put it together. Oh my god. Here's the big big picture. It's kinda like a word history.
[04:47:13] Unknown:
You don't have to be a forensic CPA.
[04:47:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I I believe he was. I forget if he was certified in that, but I know he's a CPA at a level that was I think in his own words, you know, it wasn't your standard CPA. Mhmm. And then, of course, he had help like any great people. I don't know any great people who haven't had help whether it's from other people or demonic spirits or whatever. There's nobody that I know as a man is that special unless it's Jesus. That is that's smart to get wherever they've gotten today. Unless God really bless them, I guess there is a chance. But everybody is to get where they are, usually, had to get some serious help.
[04:47:56] Unknown:
I have a friend that's with the FDA. And when he got laid off of a job one time, three years later, he became a billionaire
[04:48:07] Unknown:
Oh. Through Nice.
[04:48:10] Unknown:
Through, payday cash places pawn shops. But, yeah. Yeah. But his little secret is when he was gonna get laid off, they were gonna get a $50,000 payout. And what he did, he went over to the largest pawn broker in the country. Their headquarters was where he was. And he didn't tell him that, you know, he was an FBA, but, you know, he went and, you know, took an account job there, you know, a little part time accountant job, night audit or thing. And, he, a share of this, which would give him, you know, their perspectives, you know, every year. And he could read that stuff.
And he figured out how they did stuff. Plus, he was doing their books. And, he was when he got the layoff a few months later, he was able to put it together.
[04:49:18] Unknown:
Okay. I, I found my information. It was hidden. He is as of February 7 this year. He is 69.
[04:49:33] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[04:49:35] Unknown:
Now let me do some calculations to make sure I got it right. So it's 02/2025. Okay. He he's 70 as of February. April 1955 is when he was born.
[04:49:51] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[04:49:53] Unknown:
His middle name is Dean. Marital status, like I said, is single. He's got a relative, Jesse Leaf Soft, lived with Kim, whether they own or whatever. Who knows? She's 54, born in '71, give or take. He lives in a condominium flash townhouse, and he's in Henderson, Nevada. 89
[04:50:22] Unknown:
I live I live in Anderson.
[04:50:25] Unknown:
Well, go down to Annie Oakley Drive.
[04:50:28] Unknown:
I know where that's at.
[04:50:31] Unknown:
It's Apartment 325 or Townhouse Number 325. Allegedly, I would say that because I don't I don't have police access to certain things, although they're verified. But, he's been living there since 02/2005. Now he was still teaching in the early nineties, like I said. And then, of course, he's got his books, the the Matrix book, a few others. Let let me see if I have a list. T h o m a s s h a u f.
[04:51:06] Unknown:
What did his course cost?
[04:51:11] Unknown:
I'd have to look it up.
[04:51:13] Unknown:
Just a ballpark figure. I don't need to know exactly.
[04:51:17] Unknown:
I don't recall off the top of my head.
[04:51:22] Unknown:
What you do have? A detective, software go and find him?
[04:51:28] Unknown:
No. No. This is all all stuff I did. I took took a while to find it, but I I used resources that I have and got a few of his addresses. And the one I just kind of gave you was his alleged current address. But he he has moved around a bunch just like anybody else. But he seems to be more of an apartment townhouse type of dweller. I I've never seen anything regarding him owning a house.
[04:51:57] Unknown:
Oh, the expenses, like you were saying, around now.
[04:52:01] Unknown:
Well, I have his alleged cell number and alleged landline and an alleged email address. But, yeah, I think he took retirement or maybe possibly he was, as you know, threatened. I can't confirm that nor am I implying that. But I believe there's another set of tapes or something beyond the ones that he did. One, are you, like, the bank loan expert and then the courtroom, critique tape, which they're both double sided. Again, there are ten, eleven tapes each. I wanna say, each tape is about fifteen is it fifteen hours of listening, give or take?
[04:52:53] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[04:52:58] Unknown:
His original website, if you go on the way back machine, it could be the bankhonesty.com.
[04:53:05] Unknown:
Bankodyssey.com?
[04:53:07] Unknown:
Bankhonesty.
[04:53:09] Unknown:
Oh, honesty. Okay.
[04:53:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think it dropped off from the way back machine, give or take, I wanna say, o seven maybe, o six. And he did a newsletter.
[04:53:31] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[04:53:33] Unknown:
I have only a few of them.
[04:53:36] Unknown:
How'd you become prepping to it?
[04:53:39] Unknown:
Uh-huh. You got connections. And if you want it bad enough, you'll through time, you'll get what you want as long as it exists somewhere in somebody's data.
[04:53:50] Unknown:
How long ago did how long ago did you find out?
[04:53:56] Unknown:
Oh, I've known about the guy for a long time. Not that I've met him in person. I was too young back in the day. In
[04:54:04] Unknown:
the nineties or in the February?
[04:54:08] Unknown:
I've known about them since some of those books like that matrix book, which I can't think of the stupid name on top of my head that came out. There's two versions, I believe, matrix one and two or give or take. And then, of course, you got the top secret banker's manual, which I think he wrote in 02/2002. There's a 2003 version, I believe, also. The borrower should let's see. Hold on. No. That's not it.
[04:54:40] Unknown:
Even though some of this stuff is dated, at least we'd have a historical perspective on what was going on, and they probably didn't venture too far from what they were doing.
[04:54:56] Unknown:
Well, that's logical too in my mind. The only things that I can make sense of, like, when it comes to, like, discharging stuff that I've done, and then all of a sudden doesn't work, it goes, okay. They had to make an internal policy saying, so and so, when you see this come through your desk or whatever or through an envelope, we we we can't honor it. And here here's the generic code that you need to pop up this generic bullshit letter, send it off as our response, and and and be none the wiser. And then they'll have secret classes probably or within their new manual, added section, addendum, whatever you wanna call it.
Beware of sovereign citizen type of blah blah blah. Here's an example. Drafts, notes, promissory notes, verified, certified, blah blah blah. We don't take this. We don't accept it. Yada yada yada. And that's kinda how I've heard and been down that. And I can verify at least one of those things that I'm talking about right now in context where it it was denied soon after, which is the IRS. You look at the IRS, there's a certain section of the website regarding forms of payment they do not accept, and they literally have a picture of a document that some of us have used few years back that was working for various things, not just the IRS. And all of a sudden they put it in their manual saying we don't accept it.
They didn't really call us sovereign citizens in it, but it was pretty much on those lines. Okay. You, a man or woman or person or whichever they wanted to find us, cannot write the go to blue instruments out of thin air even if the bank doesn't. And remember, banks are only in the business of buying and selling securities. When you make a deposit thinking, oh, my money is no. That's bullshit. There's no such thing as a deposit. Technically, that low that that name or or not name, the term is done via fork tongue. It says this, our general knowledge thinks it's this, but reality due to fork tongue language, it really means this. Here's the legal lease behind it. You're giving us a free loan and we can we can loan out, even though they don't loan out, we can fractionalize this bad boy nine times or 10 times. I think it's nine or up to 10 times the value of what the alleged quote unquote deposit is put in the bank as 0% interest.
And that because we're such happy go lucky bankers, we'll give you point 05% interest rate on your checking account. Oh, and because we're giving you interest and not a non bear non interest bearing account, we can, go ahead and, tell the IRS you made x amount of money in interest. I'm like, no. I don't want an interest checking account. I don't want anything. If anybody knows how to make money, they they know even if it's a 5% interest account on a checking account, screw it. Go for 0%. Zero zero zero zero. Get your tax liability down to zero. You're porting down to zero because they they they can't report interest because there's none. So look at your statements that you get from the bank every year. It's it's oh, this is how much interest you made.
You know? I'm like, no. Sorry. No. I I don't wanna do that, and, I want the power reserved in me if I could. You know, screw the screw the EIN number and screw the Social Security number. Give me a private bank account, period, with an ID that is only internal or whatever, or I make the ID number. You just tell me how many digits you want it to be, and we'll go from there. And what I do privately with you through this branch, which is public, no third party intervener has any business in dealings with what the hell I do with you. I don't care if you launder. You shouldn't care if I launder. Not saying that you should do that. Point is it's private contract.
Who in the hell is the IRS, a third party intervener as to why based on your stupid policy, you must have a Social Security number or an EIN to open up a bank account. Go blow that your butt. I know what you're doing. You want us to tattletale on ourselves, and you folks think you are a withholding agent or have some legal moral duty or even morals go out the window to report things on this form or that form, to the IRS. But the IRS is not what they think it is, but, of course, they don't know that. So, you know, they don't know how to argue that. But go look up the definition of a withholding agent. They have to be registered. They have to have certain credentials. Your employer does not have that. The bank does not have that.
Their duty is to the banking system, not the I the IRS. Yes. They they are a ledgering company, if you will. They are the biggest what's the word? Think of it like a CPA and they do the ledgering and and the bookkeeping. They're like the best in the world because that's what they do. That's all they do. They wanna balance the books. Right? But, of course, good luck getting a bank unless you have somebody who owns a bank, legally speaking. They're registered and, they fall under, what, circular 10 and circular, I think, nine and seven regarding that they're connected with the central banking system. This and that. Yes. They could they technically make their own policies as they screw it.
We don't want your social. We want your business. What security do you wanna sell today? Oh, I wanna sell one for $5,000,000. I need $5,000,000 in credit in my account. This and that. Here's a security agreement. Since you're the middle man, if you will, intermediary between me and the treasury window, I want you to get paid a certain amount of interest. You're going to invest the living hell out of this security instrument because that's what you do. Federal loss of eightytwenty. You get 20 percent of whatever cut is made off of this note until it matures. Then we cash it out and then we go from there. We can re divest it or whatever at that point in forty years, twenty years, thirty years, rinse and repeat.
Basically, that's how it's supposed to go. Nobody is supposed to worry about usury and interest rates. Okay, I gave him the security. I need the credit which unfortunately, in some businesses I want to deal with and trade it off for Federal Reserve notes because this business, I'll say, like, cash is king, and they don't wanna deal with, credit card transactions and quote unquote being traced. Wink. Wink. Okay. Well, here's $50 in cash for whatever. Now, obviously, I think back in the day, you could do that with the dealership nowadays. They they will not take your cash, as far as I know.
That's a bad example. My point is, you know, the the concept of cash is king. I think that would be one of the only ways unless you can force a local bank to really follow the law about privacy and not having to legally give you a number that doesn't belong to them. You obviously know why they need it because they got an access to trust or they want the access to trust. Okay. You want a loan? Okay. Give me your number. We'll go get the check with your name on it and it will say from the United States Treasury, oh, you're at the closing table. You, missus Jane and missus John Doe, you forgot to ask for the check. Instead, you foolishly signed the note, a b, you got the deed, c, you signed the mortgage.
Now you just put up the collateral when the collateral wasn't the house. Stop putting the house up for collateral. The collateral is the note. Here's the note. I signed it. Now it has value because you're going to go and fill out the correct forms to wire it electronically through your broker to the treasury. With a house, it takes seventy two hours with a note on a cart on a car automobile. It takes twenty four hours for that note to be turned into, quote, unquote, a check from the treasury, which is then sent to the dealership or I e the title company in this case, the funds.
So they'll throw that into escrow. They'll pay the, the seller. You none the wiser signed all three documents. Here are your keys, and here's your bottle of champagne, and here's the American dream. Did you really buy a house? No. The hell you didn't. You just bought a death plate. And then people forgot to accept the notes or the, or I mean, not not the note, accept the deed. They technically forgot to endorse the note. That's another thing I I left up. Because if you read your note, it says, I promise to pay, you know, John, Jill, or whoever you're married to or not married to, promise to pay rip off bank in a $500,000 and zero change blah blah blah for thirty years for the next month, blah blah blah. Okay. Well, fine.
What you should have done if you knew it was an instrument, after you get through all the crap, hopefully, you rewrite it because, technically, you are allowed legally to get a physical copy of this notes and or mortgage. Take out the words you don't like. Because why why can you do it? Because you're the one you're the only one signature on there, on the line that says, I'm promising to pay. You have a unilateral contract instead of a true contract with two parties, and the others main six. They create a contract. There's eight, but most people know about the six, if not the three. Meeting the minds, you know, this, that, and the other.
And you can technically change the document and bring it back if they're stupid enough not to read it because you did it correctly where you keep the font the same, this and that. You just change little words and meanings, which throws out the whole contract into to your favor. You could hypothetically get away with it when it comes up as a problem later on when it's too late and they find out and you're like, well, tough shit. It says I can do that. It says this, this, and this, you know, and they're used to, you know, a contract that says puts all the power in their favor. Well, screw you. No. It's it's it's in my favor now. But, anyway, with notes, you know, you know, you're supposed to flip it on the back. Or if it's only, let's say, a third of a page on the last part of the whole document, page eight of eight, and it's only a paragraph and the rest of the page is blank, Okay. Fine. You don't have to flip that over. You can literally read it underneath, you know, page the order of Sykester Bank, NA or Ripoff Bank NA.
Technically endorse it and sit there and have them sign over the deed and forget the mortgage contract. Because right there, you have full title to that bad boy. Why? Because when you read that deed go read your deed. It says, you know, for your errors and, you know, for yours forever, blah blah blah, this, that, and the other. That's usually a typical deed. Okay? Well, because you didn't sign the third contract, well, I'd sit there and be like, what mortgage? I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't sign shit. I kept it legal in my in my brain because here's your note. I signed it. I even endorsed it to the bank because I know this has value. I just made it valuable because it got my signature on it.
And you, you know, you don't say this to them, but they foolishly signed over the deed to you. Okay. Well, it says this is free and clear, and it's mine. That's what the title that's what this deed says. So why the hell would I sign a mortgage? And technically, you have the keys right there. I grabbed the keys. I grabbed the deed. They can have the damn promissory note and have nice day. They really, legally can't do anything. Of course, they can do scare tactics, of course, but I'm saying in legal sense, they can't do anything because they can't hold you to a mortgage. You can't sign it. You give them you give them your consideration, and the perk for that consideration is the keys, the house, and the deed.
And then, of course, you gotta accept the deed under laws of acceptance and fully transfer the deed correctly. Most people do not do that. So the deed, the deed and then you got the deed of trust. But, obviously, because you didn't sign the mortgage, there's no deed of trust either. So, again, it's the deed. Do acceptance of the deed. Refile it. Well actually, no. At that point, don't even file it. Due in acceptance of the deed, you better hold that bad boy like it's a golden nugget worth a million dollars because you know that's that's your title, Your legal title. You don't have equitable title until you get a Lydium, which is a land pad slash land grant depending on what state you're in. Then you do what they call is a, merger of titles under merger, law merge law of merging.
And you merge both titles, therefore, you have equitable and legal title. Equitable in this particular instance is the eloiting title land patent slash land grant. A car would be the MSO, the MCO. That does not have a legal title unless you make it one by surrendering equitable title to the state slash county under the registration of a car tag and a color of title. Then you're gonna have a real big issue recombining the titles and merging them because you don't have the original. So with the car title, it's it's one title. You want the MCO, MSO, period.
But the reason for not recording or or what excuse me. If we're not registering the deed at the county for the $10 stamp or the $1 stamp is because then that puts you on the hook for property tax. That is a way of not getting property tax via the signing table. If you were type hypothetically do this and get away with what I just went over. The other thing is paying it with a gold or silver. Technically, I would probably go gold and silver or just gold, but basically under laws of equity, gold transfers equitable and legal title. Now, obviously, you don't have the Lloyd and the title at the at the at the table, but let's just hypothetically think there was. Then they can't really tax it because the county doesn't have equitable title even though they never really did because the county doesn't have rights to the allodium title and land patents anyway, but that's another story.
But because you registered the deed in your book, you know, page book number or section blah blah blah stamp for $10 or $1. Oh, okay. Now we can tax you instead of the previous owners. So by not registering it, giving them, putting them in, if you will, like a beneficiary, a k a equitable title where you're just, where they're benefiting as a beneficiary off of you using the land. Okay. Well, now now you gotta pay me because there's a benefit there, which is AKA property taxes, which obviously, I think mostly probably would agree is illegal. It's not an appropriate tax according to constitution and how the taxation is supposed to go. Everybody pays different. It's not the same. Every county's military is different.
The only example that would be a legal tax, I think, across the board is the gas tax. I think in every state, the gas tax in itself is the same percent. I could be wrong, but let's just use that as an example. That would be a constitutionally legal tax appropriated across the board or, just like sales tax isn't legal either for two reasons. One, every county tax is usually different for food tax or you bought a computer and it's 7% here, 6% here, 2.2% here. It's all illegal in that sense, constitutionally. And then b, how can you tax something that is not yours, It's not their property. Yes. You're doing commerce. I guess that's another way where they sneak it in with, well, we think you're doing commerce. So, yeah, since we got control over that, we're gonna stretch the meaning of what the commerce clause does and, or tax your ad.
There are ways I forget if we cover yeah. I think I think yeah. We covered this a few weeks ago with Joe on here on how not to pay certain taxes depending on what state you're in and what forms they left. There's a lady that was in South Carolina. I don't know if she was able to fill up the forms and get what she wants to now pay taxes. Like, certain things I don't pay taxes on. I'm not fully tax free yet, but, you know, it depends on who you're working with. Internet's a little different because you gotta get the right document that they like, and they gotta update the system, this and that. In person, some of these businesses have their own internal system. And if they're not pulling up the state's records and you have a federal tax free thing, which is higher than the state, they might not like it because they can't really put it in the system and check it because, again, they're looking at records at the state level. I know this because I've went through it with Home Depot, Lowe's. I'm like, really?
You normally can put in a code, whatever, or override it and and give me this give me the discount or or or the tax free part. And the funny thing is, at least with, I think, Home Depot, it's one or the other, but the veterans benefits. It's like, what? Yeah. Okay. We see you're tax free, but, we can't give you your veterans 20% discount either. I'm like, why the hell not? The the tax isn't supposed to go to you, so it's not like you're missing it. And then give me, you know, a 20% off depending on what the items are, in Home Depot. Now anybody has veterans benefits for Lowe's or Home Depot, they're limited on what it goes for. Like, if I was building a house and I wanna spend $40,000 on lumber, I'm not getting 20% off that. They're they're not doing that. I'm like, I'm a load of crap. Veterans always get stiffed.
Anyway, I'll stop brambling.
[05:13:13] Unknown:
Buy the lumber one two by four at a time.
[05:13:17] Unknown:
Right. But there's no discount on lumber anyway.
[05:13:22] Unknown:
Right. I have a question. We've heard, in the past that, a way to buy things without them being registered and without, the state or powers that be having, hooks in it is to on your bill of sale, that it was sold for $21 in silver plus other valuable consideration. Does that work?
[05:13:58] Unknown:
Okay. We're talking about on on the on the deed or on the or the house? House, whatever. On the house thing, yes. But that falls under, if I recall, the Seventh Amendment trial, which would mean anything under a value of a variety of $21 or more has to be done in common law. So if you wanna lock yourself into that, that's where this $21 comes in. That's why it's $21. It's a constitutional protection. And then like I said earlier, gold, silver, gold particularly, unless I can find elsewhere under equity principles, gold transfers, equitable, and legal title. You want both. But like I said with the house, obviously, you don't have the title at the table. Now they used to do that.
So that technically was valid at the time. And then, obviously, cars are are what I said they were because they have to create the other title, the fictitious one when they register to the state. So, obviously, when you buy the car and, obviously, it only really works if you're paying cash or you take a private loan. Let's say you go to Navy Federal, car, it's $50. They'll just give you the check for $50, then you literally just buy the car straight out. Because under their terms and conditions, which I think still stands, this is how you get a free car, folks, to an extent, because they give you the check-in their little agreement. It says you promise to something to the fact that you promise to sign title over, so we can be put as a lien online, whatever it is, on the document.
But, okay, you go to the dealership. You ask for their MCO slash MSO, and you make that a very poignant caveat. If they do not agree to it, I'd have it in writing, have something in writing. Before you even do the deal, let them have the check anyway. You make sure you see that bad boy on the table at the signing. I would make sure in my personal view of it, because some dealerships don't wanna give that up. Not because they really know what's going on. It's because they have a third party contract with the state. And they're also bonded by the state DMV, by the way, through that contract.
So not to get off too much on the trails of that, but but when you put up a lawsuit for fraud, let's say, or mismanagement of information, you know, without calling it fraud, but calling it fraud, nothing was disclosed to a point of blah blah blah, you can put a claim on that bond. Oh, they're gonna hate that, but you can you can put a claim on that. That's one of the things you can do. But like I said, you get the car. It's $50,000. Let's say you you get the you get the Mustang or whatever it is. You get that wonderful absolute title.
I I really hate to call it title, but let's just go for for sake of understanding here. And then when you deal with you can deal with the loan separately. Since there's no lien on it, they would have to go through the standards of taking you to court to claim, you know, whatever, and you faulted on a personal loan, not a car loan. Because, again, there's no there's no lien. Their their name's not on it. Now, obviously, that puts you in a different world of trouble if you wanna go down that route. But when I say kind of a free car net sense where, okay, you don't have to worry about a repo man. It's yours. You just have to deal with the consequences on the other side of it because you took out a private loan with such and such bank or whatever.
So in that way, it's free ish. In regards to valuable consideration, this yeah. That's typically found on a, on a deed for a house. But you're supposed to if you look at old books I don't have the example in front of me, but it's in one of our books here. Back in the day, they used to say valuable consideration, but before, you had the option to put in gold or silver. Now, of course, they changed those documents legally because they don't want you to have full ownership, if you will, of the property or the transfer of the full property. Okay. You're saying something?
[05:18:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Are you familiar with Brandon Joe Williams?
[05:18:32] Unknown:
Yes. I'm very well of
[05:18:35] Unknown:
very aware of him. Alright. Now okay. I'm not promoting him or anything like that, but he has floated a process where, a number of people have actually gotten free cards through discharging the debt, discharging the note.
[05:18:53] Unknown:
Are you familiar with that? Yeah. I I I've seen I've seen his screw me course or whatever two point o. There's a three point o coming out. His car thing was something a little different under under the it would say pay to the order of your own name. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. Technically, that's right when people know about the treasury check that I'm talking about if you're doing a typical loan. But I've been following that for the last year. I really haven't heard anybody successfully coming to him yet. I'm not saying he's lying because he himself in one or two posts even asked for an update because these people that were doing it, the public, the folks that were following each of these folks on his own page were like were like, well, what's the results? Where are we at? It's six months? It's eight months?
I mean, good news or no news is good news because we're also not hearing people saying, well, I got repoed or I gotta go to court. So Right. I can't speak beyond what I just said because I'm following the public information. Yes. I I I can contact him if need be. We're not buddy buddies or anything like that, but, I trade information. I give him information here and there. He he he can do what he wants with it. But just like Joe on previous calls, the the other Joe talked about Brandon who he's known for twenty something years. You know, he he's he's hard headed in a good way and a bad way where he's it's what I believe. That's what it is. You know, kind of thing. It's hard to change his mind. You know, that's just who he is.
Right. So, I can't say what he does works or not, but, that brings up another topic. If anybody has a car right now, you can actually go down to the dealership that you dealt with. I don't hopefully, they have the records assuming, let's say, it's some recent purchase, maybe within the last year because their policies will dictate on how long they keep records. But you want what is called a statement of account. It has one document people do not ask for in regards to having the receipt that you paid for this, and here's the work order. Here's the here's the order, and here's the legal pages we're gonna tell you about.
Fair Debt Collect Practices Act, this and that. You know? It's, like, eight, nine pages long of of your alleged receipts. But if you get the statement of account, you can't ask for it right away. It takes at least three days for the dealership to get it. The statement of account, why it's so important, it will have a photocopy of the treasury check. Let's say your name is John Doe Smith. Well, it'll say, John Doe Smith paid blah blah blah $50,000 to blah blah blah. That right there is enough evidence to take down to the DMV or the BMV, depending on what state you're in, and do what they call a challenge the title.
In their system, there's going to be a fake lien. They know this. The person behind the window may not know this. This is more the upper management that there is a notice of electronic lien on said property. But reality, because the bank did not fully do their UCC one and put an actual lien on the vehicle, it doesn't exist technically. But showing that, oh, I, John Doe Smith, paid such and such $50,000. Here's the evidence of it. Technically, they could take off the so called lien electronically speaking, which is usually done within the first twenty one days. There's twenty one day rule behind that. And they'll release the title to you.
Now, technically, once you get the title officially in the mail, normally, they don't print it off there. I don't know if they've changed that law or rule or whatever. Maybe they haven't, if they haven't, unlike car tags, which can be printed right on the spot. Once you hold that title, legal title, not equitable because, again, you signed off the MCO to them blah blah blah, they really can't do much to come collect you because their name is not in the lien spot on the on the title, and you have it. And you also prove to the folks at the counter, oh, I'm challenging the lien.
I paid for it. Here it is. Here's the evidence, and give me the lien. I've heard that working for some folks, but I only say some folks because it's usually hard to get the, statement of account piece of paper. Some dealerships, I think, they know what it is, and they don't want to give it to you. But that is another way of getting your car released is challenge the lien via that process that I just went over. Okay.
[05:24:01] Unknown:
Now can that go bad if, you're challenging the lien and get the lien released, and let's say you still owe money on the on whatever vehicle it is, can that go bad for you particularly with, business relationship with your lender or whatever?
[05:24:27] Unknown:
Yes and no. I mean, they can't deny extension of your own credit. But, again, who you're dealing with at the bank does not know that. They're not supposed to. It's the whole compartmentalization thing. You have to know who you're talking to. But the thing is, remember, just like in the house okay. Oh, here's showing the mortgage. Okay. Well, that's the collateral. Right? Well, what they want the collateral to be is the car. But, again, just like the mortgage, the collateral is the note. It was never ever the house. The house is the perks, the prize, the winner winner chicken dinner, the car is the same thing. But you having legal title to it because they are now quote, unquote off the title as a lienholder, there's nothing in their mind securing that note even though they already know what hearing the noise. But, again, you're not supposed to know about it is the note. But since the car is off the hook, there there's nothing really they can collect, because they know they can't collect. They're they're they're they can't take what's most valuable because you have both. You have you have the car and you have a legal title.
Getting the MSO is another thing. There there are ways of trying to reproduce it or get it legally, but that's a pain in the ass. Therefore, you could use the laws of merger and then merge the titles, which Joe, I think, you know, I kinda covered or mentioned it when he was, not the last call, but the other call from the two Mondays ago. Because then once you once you have equitable and legal title, it's it's done. It's yours. And then throw that bad boy into a truck and let the truck handle it. Oh, the the other thing you can do is put UCC one put a mechanic oh, you can also do, let me back up. You should have UCC ones on your property, the house, the correct numbers in the debtor's box.
And then your house I mean, not your house. You put a lien on the VIN number of the vehicle, not the account number of the note or anything like that. It's the VIN. Because just like on the MSO and the legal title, color of title, It's based on the VIN number because that's the traceable part, yada yada yada. But another way of releasing the title off the vehicle, you have to have a very trusted person to do this, though. Otherwise, they can steal it from you. But you put a mechanic's lien on the VIN number of the vehicle for blah blah blah services blah blah blah. Depending on the state, sometimes it's thirty days, sixty, or ninety days.
Once that time is up, because the bank knows, okay. That type of lien, they cannot have removed. Doesn't matter about their UCC one or their fake one. Because, again, like I said earlier, you can't clean under law, current law or supposed law, statutes. It says only a man, woman, basically a living, sentient being can put one on and take one off. Since they can't move it, do anything with it, the b, the the DMV, BMV would release the lien to, I mean, release the title to the said person who put the mechanics lien on. It would then be retitled in that person's name, then that person who put the lien on would have to put it and sell it back to you free, obviously, or you'd pay them for putting the lien on and doing it for you. You know, you could do that side business. Let's say $400 or $500 or whatever.
They give it back to you. You go back and get a a no updated color of title with your name on it. So because all the spaces on the back are pretty much all written out. I think there's four pages only on there. And then you would have the title of car again. And again, okay. Now I have the collateral. What are they gonna do? Because, you you won. You were to give them security, in the notes. The note was I mean, at that point, you could yeah. If they wanted to try to collect, you could kinda scare them by releasing that information you're not supposed to know about. You're like, well, no. I have I have the car, which was never collateral to begin with. You know and I know that the collateral was the note.
You put forth nothing out consideration up for the transfer and sale and buy of this note. I have legal title now to this automobile. Free and clear of any liens, you have pretty much no standing here. You know, you put it in a nice legal terms or whatever and kinda scare them and give them a little peek on what information you know about it because you're not supposed to know about that. And then, of course, they're not gonna probably not gonna wanna take you to court and put out what you did because other people, if they know how to read documents and whatever from court case, would be like, oh, okay. I'm gonna reproduce it. And then if it gets out in the public, too much even though here I am putting it out there, they'll change in their system with some policy. Oh, we can't do that Even the law says I can't. You know?
Like, you were somebody or George or was George mentioning with the, with the ship stuff. Most of the stuff, I'm more than sure it's still pertinent today, but the way you do it definitely probably has changed. So like in his tapes and his books where he states it in so many words, yeah, you may have a good 80% of things, but the 20% you need, and that's the stuff they keep changing or how how they apply. But we don't recognize it. Now you gotta reword in a way where you're saying the same thing or something to that effect and getting the same effect, just a different way of of attacking it, if you will. So, anyway, mechanics lien can get rid of it challenging the lien via the statement of comp, again, which would have a treasury check or a photocopy of it saying you paid 7¢ $50,000 blah blah blah.
I'm proving that I paid for it. Done. Give me the damn car.
[05:30:57] Unknown:
Jimmy? Yeah. And Ron Gibson used to stay on land that there's a lien on,
[05:31:06] Unknown:
all of it. Yep. There is. So And we've had we've had people write to the correct department or allegedly, and they never give us that information as in, okay. Well, under the freedom of such and such or the the the other, information act, I forget what it's called, but there's two different ones that you can file information for. And we've never gotten what we wanted because then we could use that as leverage and basically pay off the debt or the alleged lien, remove the lien, take it down and prove it down approve it to the local, property tax folks and the, the county treasurer or whoever's in that position to prove. Okay. There there's nothing to collect. It's done.
But unless you got somebody who's done it, you know, I'd I'd like to know, you know, where that's at too, but that's my that's my take currently.
[05:31:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, Gibson said you you contact and find out how much it is and you pay them. That's just bullshit, you know, as far as I'm concerned.
[05:32:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I can see where it's bullshit because, like I just said, it's like, well, I can say it and ask for it unless it's produced, and they're willing to put that out there, which is, that that I highly doubt they would want to for obvious reasons, and say, okay. Well, yeah, I'm gonna pay for it. So so so in a way, I I I can see both ways. We wanna say it's legal, lawful, whatever in our head, but on the other side, since I don't have physical evidence, even I'm preaching it or or thinking about it in a book, right, that it exists or doesn't exist. Or maybe they read it in some congressional record. That's probably where it came from or something.
Other than that, beyond that kind of evidence, yeah, I I would agree it's okay. Well, nobody ever produced it. But then again, it doesn't always mean it doesn't exist. It's like, okay. I haven't seen God, but yet I believe in God, you know, things like that. Now that's a far stretch, but you you get what I'm saying.
[05:33:02] Unknown:
Okay. I gotta go. Thanks.
[05:33:19] Unknown:
Can I guess he left?
[05:33:22] Unknown:
Yeah. If I can read this is one take on what is happening. I'm kinda curious as you're all opinion.
[05:33:34] Unknown:
The this has to do
[05:33:38] Unknown:
kinda move moving out, you know, kinda like a view from so called space. That 800 generals meeting that, I grabbed my other phone that has the Telegram post that, that Boris did on that. And I'm kinda curious what your I mean, I I don't know what your opinion is of the whole, DK thing, but I know,
[05:34:05] Unknown:
like, that Well
[05:34:06] Unknown:
Just as that was happening, the, the, Charlie, who's that guy that did cocaine supposedly, that actor? Few men and the kids or something. Charlie Sheen was on with Joe Rogan said talking about the Kennedy assassination. But, but, yeah, this is what he wrote, as a post. And he's he's basically shut down posting on the, the refining the trim tab, but he so he doesn't post that often, but all the resources are still on there. But he says, let's take a look at some recent events. September 30, during the speech to the 800 plus generals and admirals, Trump handed out their marching orders, quote, and provided rules and engagement, quote, equals preparing for martial laws equals must be done to, quote, flip the system back to its constitutional and divine law providence guidance roots, I e, declaration. All given reminders to, quote, remember their oaths and that quote the world is watching. 10/01/2025, government shutdown, reboot underway.
Also, the delivery of the equity that promised, by the 1783 Treaty of Paris was completed by the church of Philadelphia by the anointed minister and apostle. The treaty only granted legal title, promise to deliver, but the, quote, equitable title was retained by a crown slash Vatican until recently. Refer to Trump visiting to the Vatican where Melania and Ivanka Trump were dressed in funeral attire. Vance later visited on the pope on his deathbed, quote, to inform him, quote, game over. 10/11/2025, martial law commences, and everything I, meaning bars, have attempted to show, explain to people will be a full force and effect. LibriCo equals trust slash public administration.
11/10/2025, done in thirty days. Cleanup of all government offices, local, state, federal, should be done with JAG officers taking over the courts until those who take loyalty oaths to the people and nation can be put into place. This will pave the way for the church of Philadelphia to take its place as a, quote, lawful civil authority. And on July 4, true independence of the nation will occur as the birth of a new nation will be completed. So that's kind of his prophecy.
[05:36:17] Unknown:
Are you open?
[05:36:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I I read that whole thing. Some of the dates are a little off, but well, I can't want September, October. Nope. Nope. That dates are in order. Well, one thing you gotta figure out, okay, if you're doing something crazy, whether especially if it's bad, you don't normally tell in this sense how we did it. Oh, I'm requesting 800 generals, 600 generals, or whatever, to come meet because as far as I don't know, at least publicly spoken, that's never happened. So that's kind of a red flag, could be good, could be bad. And getting their marching orders or trying to figure out, okay. I'll be 800 now. I got you in a room. Now you can't go anywhere. Okay. Here are all the, unsealed warrants for 400 of you bastards, are being arrested today. Surprise. You can't go anywhere. You're all here in one room. Guess what? Off you go. That's a possibility.
I don't know. But that's if if you wanna get them all and make it easy for them, get them all in one room. That reminds me of a story that the so called FBI did back in, I think, in the nineties. There were three or four people on the most wanted list at the time and another fifty, sixty that had warrants out, and they got them all gathered because they won supposed Indian tickets or whatever to some football game. They got them all in this coliseum. They even dressed up as this and that. Made it look like it was some huge bank because they're all getting free tickets and free bus ride and whatever.
And they they all entrapped them and said, oh, you're all under arrest for this, this, this, this, and that. And where's John? And where's this? I mean, it was I was I was like, okay. This is a good sting. So that's an idea that I have on that. Now if that idea doesn't float, then I can kinda buy the story that was posted. But then again, okay. How long have you been waiting and watching the quote, unquote movie? Whether it's Q activated or whatever the hell, JFK from back in the day, who know who the hell knows. Right? So it's not that I don't wanna believe it. It's like, okay. You've been saying it forever and ever. It's like date setting. Date setting, the the the when's the date? It's never come. Now now you've gotten us hanging by a thread and said, okay. Well, let's say eventually it does happen kind of the way Q says or whoever the hell. Right?
At that point, it's gonna be like, well, it's the boy who cried wolf. He said it to me times and when it was when it was real, we we aren't as excited or or ready for it as we were when it was kinda okay. We'll wait a year. We'll wait four years because, okay, he takes time and here we are, you know, x amount of years for the four, eight, twelve, you know, this and that. It's like, okay. Where is it? Or, supposedly, when something was signed in in in Clinton's time, and here we are thirty five years later, whatever. We're still sitting here. We're like, I'll talk and no walk, and we also have to remember the system is loaded the way they have it.
Whether you want Trump or not or Biden or whoever the hell is in office, they're all selected. They're not elected. None of them. Hell, that that even goes probably for congress and and all the low ones. I would be surprised your PTA board is not set up. Oh, you're working for Nancy? I wonder. Yeah. Right. Uh-huh. Martial law. In that sense Yeah. To me, it sounds like a Nasara deal. Doesn't it kinda sound like Nasara deal? These kind of talk Well, yeah, the whole story here that that was read out loud, it it does make sense if you know the other part of the story with, okay, huge, a star, and a star 35 back. Plus, it can go even further back to back to the Kennedy's, this and that, but, you know, it's the whole subterfuge. Oh, it takes time. Oh, this this thing has been working since, Kennedy and Kennedy's Bouvier so and so and so and so is alive. And I'm like, wouldn't he be, like, a 105? Yeah. I doubt it. I I mean, it's possible if you wanna still throw in some more q okay. Which med bed was he in? Did he get reverse aging back to late age 30? Okay. Well, then if that was all true, then, yes. I could buy that ten days of live at a 105, but it doesn't look a 105. Now it looks 50 or or whatever the case. But, you know, that's a long stretch.
So some of this is like, yeah. Okay. Wishful thinking. But then again, if it does happen like this, okay, this also, I guess, could line up in the bible if I wanna take it that route because okay. The Jews are looking for the Messiah. What better way to bring in a Messiah if somebody, hypothetically, aside from signing the tree peace treaty for seven years, is how do I become the greatest living president, monarchy, whatever highest title you can think of that means I'm the shit than to bring back any way, let's say, starting with America or maybe some other country with, I'm the greatest.
We took down the swamp. We did this, and now I'm God or whatever. And, like, the Jews have a coin with Cyrus on on a coin, but it it's Trump's face. You you know? And you probably heard of the about that when, when he was in his first term. I was like, okay. Well, there's a sign there. Something something's wrong there. I'm not fully suggesting that he's the antichrist, but if we were to do something this great and people are still blind and and thinking it's so great, not wondering and understanding, putting all the puzzle pieces together, I'm like, okay. Well, this this seems so odd because it's never been done before. Not saying it can't be done, but it can only be done by one man.
That's Jesus. God in the flesh coming down, bring his kingdom down, this, that, and the other, and everybody knows the rest of the story and revelation. So I'm more looking forward to where okay. If it happens, okay. It's really a bad but good thing. Could be part of the big deception too. You know, the Bible talks about, for tribulation. Fine. If they wanna be deceived, God's like, okay. Fine. I'm a let you be deceived. Probably the biggest deception you've ever seen, and you're gonna most people are gonna fall for it. And this could be one of them where they're putting him on the pedestal like he's the king of the world. I mean, holy moly.
So that's my take. Yeah. It's wishful thinking. Sounds great. I wouldn't mind it happening if it was actually good for humanity, which when the hell was that ever done since Cain and Abel. Right? Never. So that's my yeah.
[05:43:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I had to go for a phone call, so I missed a few minutes. But, I wanted to end my comment on on Ron Gibson. He also said that you could go ahead and sue the title company for not disclosing this lien, right, when you're trying to get your land patent. And, I told that to my, my title officer guy. He's he's run the oldest title company in the state of California. He's been in the business for over forty years, and he says, no. It's in there. It's been disclosed. You can't sue us.
[05:43:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I heard that too.
[05:43:49] Unknown:
Have you ever read a complete one and see if you see wording in there like that?
[05:43:55] Unknown:
In which document?
[05:43:57] Unknown:
A title document when you're buying a home. They're huge.
[05:44:04] Unknown:
Yeah. No. No. I have it. But if it's in there, it's like, okay. Well well, it goes back to what I was saying. It's like, okay. Well, depending on what it is, the the law is is, what, three days to look it over your I I wish it would give you a week because then you could scan your computer, change all the words if you know how to change it right and get away with certain things. Like like, I did that for somebody who was trying to get a a, I think, a line of credit on a credit card. Right? And you had to fill out the old paper form. Right? So I took the paper form. I kept the same font, same color as best as I could with what I had to work with. And I took every little I don't think I saved it, but I probably should have as an example.
But I took every little word that put the benefits on the bank and the power in the bank, and I I flipped it because they flipped it on them, on the person who was signing it. We we almost got away with it until they caught it. They're like, yeah. Okay. We're we're gonna approve you in, like, a day. And I'm like, oh, please do because I was like, I changed this document where there's, like, no power. You can't there there's I I changed it to, like, 0% financing. The beneficiary is her or him. The interest should go to us in a regular check that it can be put in via ACH or a bank, and standard banking. And what I mean by that is if you guys look at your, your so called statements, they have what looks to be a check at the bottom or on the top depending on how they do it, and there's a perforated line that says, you don't tear here, send in with your payment. Right?
That is called the remittance check. That takes a very special account in order to process. And I didn't wanna deal with that in in this person's or in this bank's information regarding, okay, we we pay. We give your statement on the fifteenth blah blah blah according to such and such law blah blah blah. I'm like, no. That's fine. But you're gonna give us a damn check we can actually do something with, not some oh, we gotta figure out where in the bank and how to catch this this, this so called bill that you give me every month. So I rewrote a whole bunch of that, and I I was feeling really good about it. I was like, fuck. Yeah. Because in court, they would be destroyed.
Open ended credit. They're a potential interest. Maybe I went a little too far, but we got it mailed out. They're about to, I guess, approve her this and that. And then without them really saying, they're like, oh, well, we we can't really approve this at this time. You know, they gave us some generic bullshit. I was like, wow. You guys actually had somebody read this or you sent it through AI, and it didn't match up with what you'd like. Therefore, you didn't accept what what you didn't accept my term. Let's put that away. Because I was like, no. Forget your terms. Your terms are bullshit.
[05:47:04] Unknown:
What blew what blew me away, and I didn't I wish I would have asked him more questions about it. If, as a, running a title company and he's aware of, like, a universal lien, I mean, that's just crazy.
[05:47:20] Unknown:
Well, I would ask him if he knows about it. Like, well, no offense to you and your job, and I and I understand you're you're you're making a living like any living man or woman, but for a minute, can speak to me as Bob or whoever's name is, not Bob the title guy. Well, I was. He's a friend, and and I didn't push him on. But basically What? Son of a bitch. And and get to the bottom of this. That's what I'd be interested in. Where is this where is this magic lead? Let's go get the damn thing.
[05:47:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I should've I should've pressured him a little bit more because he said he he said that what Ron Gibson said is basically true, but it's disclosed in title. So you can't sue the title company for not disclosing it. That's pretty much what he said.
[05:48:07] Unknown:
Yeah. But I I I I I'd add on to that. Okay. Fine. But let's define disclosure.
[05:48:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And what what is the wording? Mention it doesn't mean doesn't mean a a final wall. Well Yeah. I wish I would have pushed him more is my point. You know? Look. Found out a little bit more about it. But
[05:48:27] Unknown:
Well, well, at least that's a good thing. At least he he he listened in title school or whatever. Well, yeah, I'd be interested in that, but I I I don't, I get houses a little different, but I've never had to read or, you know, a huge long pages of of all the shit that you guys signed at the table. But have anybody had anything like it as an example? A real example It's just a small book. Take the names or or whatever. I wanna read it because I might be able to poke out some stuff out of it that normal people can see only because they haven't studied or know what the hell they're looking at. Because some of this legal lease is really hard to understand, and you gotta you you have to know what they're saying in the document, just like on their perspective.
[05:49:18] Unknown:
My note over twenty five years ago was eight and a half by 11 papers. It was about half inch thick, and there were about five places noted in there to sign, roughly, I'd say, from memory. Right. So there's several different sections that you're signing. Who knows what the hell I signed?
[05:49:45] Unknown:
Yeah. You have all my security interests. You have it all.
[05:49:50] Unknown:
Yeah.
[05:49:52] Unknown:
So so my children? What? It's like, well, you you agreed to it. So so so how did we illegally do something?
[05:50:01] Unknown:
Exactly. It's a it's such a scam. Everything's a scam. Pathetic.
[05:50:15] Unknown:
Well, welcome to the world of banking. And like the bible says, he warns about lawyers, bankers, and organized religion.
[05:50:24] Unknown:
Land of the free. You're free to sign anything away that you got, and they make sure you do.
[05:50:38] Unknown:
Well, it's like the constitution where people bring up well, if slavery is slavery, well, yeah, it says involuntary slavery, but nowhere does it say you can't voluntarily slave slave into this contract. So the joke's on you. Learn to read and understand and comprehend what the hell you just read. Right?
[05:51:02] Unknown:
It's like, has has anybody ever read their, cell phone agreement or their with their cell phone provider. Right. It's the same kind of crap. This stuff goes on, like, forever.
[05:51:18] Unknown:
Well, the the crazy thing is when you open applications, like like, some of them recently, whether it's on the PC, Mac, or even on your iPhone, well, we updated the terms and conditions, blah blah blah. And there's no, like, we'll let you in. And if you disagree, click here. We'll send you a link to a form you fill out, and you kinda give us a conditional acceptance, and then we'll go from there. No. It's always no. You're forced to say yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. If you say no, we close down the whole app. Yeah. I know it's I'm like, how is that even legal?
[05:52:00] Unknown:
I wonder how much science is in there too. Like, if you get irradiated to death by our phone, you can't sue us, you know, all that kind of stuff as well.
[05:52:10] Unknown:
Well, did you hear about the folks that are suing Disney, for some deaths or food poisoning of some of somebody's wife? And I forget what circuit court. It's moving up to Supreme Court. But, basically, Disney's argument from the start was, well, because John Doe and his wife or his headband wife has a Disney plus subscription. And then in those terms, in addition, it says in no shape, form, or matter that you can sue us, blahdy blahdy blah. You have to do arbitration blahdy blahdy blah. And I'm like, okay. Well, that's for the app. Right? Where in that contract does it say, if you go to any Disneyland park or Disney World, you it falls under the same contract. No. It doesn't. And that's their whole argument.
And I'm like, wow. The the these companies are so damn crooked. Oh my god. I'm like, no. There's a wrongful death at your park by accident. I'm not saying fully Disney World and Disneyland are out to kill everybody. I'd say that'd be huge bad for business, but, you know, shit happens. But I'm like, I heard you like that contract pertains to Disney plus, does it not? Where in there does it mention Disney World, Disneyland, or any subparks or or or or or or those fancy language about other parts of Disney that are magically included via forked tongue because disclosure, like like you were just saying with the the liens, like, well, how much disclosure? Just just define the extent of what disclosure is. Because now I can throw you in the vague vagueness, vagueness doctrine and say this is too vague for any personal common knowledge to understand. Therefore, you have to throw this out of court. It's moot.
They were not very descriptive enough about saying Disney World, Disneyland, Disney theme parks, Disney rides, Disney this, Disney that under the purview of blah blah blah, this and that. No. Throw it out under the vag of Wegmansnacher. It's too vague. Sorry. Can't get away with that. Sorry. Bye. I mean, that's gonna be my argument. I was assuming the merits of what I just said were what they were. Obviously, there's more to the case, but, generally, that's how I would go at it. Basically, you attack that contract. You attack every little damn word time. You wanna play that game? We're gonna attack every little damn word. Oh, I need a glossary too. We're gonna take all damn day to go every every stinking word in here, and you define what it is.
[05:54:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Most are pretty much all of them. Changing things, you know, if they know that it's an inteision contract, they're not gonna okay. You don't want a loan. See you. That's some other sucker to get. You know? Right. Right. Or or they, They've got a corner on the market, so to speak.
[05:55:03] Unknown:
No. I'm just saying Disney for that example, Disney has gone so far that somehow any agreement attached to Disney or at least this example of Disney plus, magically, it stands to going to parks, getting tickets, or some other some from, out from left field magically is binding. I'm like, you got to be kidding me. You're telling me this is the the the judge is buying this crap? I mean, give give me a new judge that knows contract law and please laugh at this because this ridiculous. Now I'd have to look at I'd have to look at what what was brought in to to really see what the contract is because may maybe it does say Disney parks in in so many words. Maybe it doesn't. If it doesn't, I'm like, again, too vague. Third out. It's too in in ambiguous this that you you throw all these legal terms out, you you know, and and call it a day. I'm like, no.
There is harm. Just because you're right, it doesn't mean you have free rein to kill people. I mean, I know you gotta be that blunt with these people, but it's like, no. You hurt somebody, most likely by accident or by some negligence. You need to make me whole. Yes. You can't bring my wife back to life. I need something else for the emotional support, this, that, or or or the secondary damages, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, go from there. But, no, Disney, Ming, and its infinite wisdom trillion billionaire. Oh, no. We can't we can't do that. I'm like, you think companies this is when there's a death or like a carnival or whatever. Oh, that's right. Throw it under the rug right away. Or, like, or you hear people with faulty such and such in a car, killed so and so. Oh, no. We can't have that out in the news. How much does the family want? Okay. They want 10,000,000. Okay. We'll give them 5. Go away and shut up and never hear about it again.
And for Disney Parks, I mean, obviously, they they didn't go that route, but what's the 3,000,000 now? I'm not saying that her her life wasn't worth it. It's just this is ridiculous. You shouldn't have to go this far to defend this. You did wrong accidentally. Fix it.
[05:57:15] Unknown:
Have you ever heard about a guy by the name of Philip Arthur Thompson?
[05:57:21] Unknown:
Philip Arthur Thompson. I might have.
[05:57:25] Unknown:
How about Wayne Gacy? Yeah. Thompson's probably killed way more people than Gacy, but because he was working for the FBI, the CIA, and himself making money whenever he wanted, He killed scores of people. And it was so bad that the San Francisco police department complained about it in the papers that they were putting this guy in jail, and he was out the next day for murders and things like that. But he was protected. Just how sick this system is. You know? They got people like that running around out there working for them, and it's just fine. They can do whatever they want until they run out of time, and then they let them get incarcerated and throw away the key.
[05:58:19] Unknown:
Okay.
[05:58:21] Unknown:
Yeah. It's just it's amazing that
[05:58:24] Unknown:
how sick this system is. Well, it's not what you know. It's who you know. I mean, it's like I was saying earlier, people getting where they've gotten today. I I don't know anybody other than Jesus or God himself on his own specific merits or her own merits have gotten where they've gotten today without extensive amounts of help, whether it's from physical people or demonic presence or or whatever. Like, some people have supposed psychic powers, and they somehow use them and got them partly the way where they're done. But, it's who you know.
[05:59:02] Unknown:
Yeah. They they they it was a psychological channel about killers, and they said some kill for profit, some kill for the the thrill of killing, and then there was and then there was another group that are just plain psychopathic, and he says this this guy, was was all three. He killed people for fun. He killed people for profit, you know, and he killed people because he was a psychopath. It, you know, I mean, just and he's an arm of our so called justice system. Right? Right. He was involved in the contra fair as well. He who knows if he didn't kill, the Mercury News reporter?
What was his name? Who was doing that report? Who exposed it on the Mercury News? Forget his name, but he he committed suicide. Yeah.
[06:00:10] Unknown:
Calling a typical yep. If it's not the plane ride, if it's not the boat ride, a helicopter up or hanging. I mean, they're getting creative so far over the years with how supposed people, especially superstars or Hollywood, oh, tons of drug overdose or the bathtub or that was the same MO. There there there's nothing new like, oh, he blew himself up with a grenade. You know? Or
[06:00:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Like Marilyn Monroe, for instance, when he's talking Hollywood.
[06:00:41] Unknown:
Jumped off the sign. Yeah. Right. I'm pretty sure he well, it's probably alive under witness protection if you go with that old two things. But, I mean, some of it's so blatantly obvious. I'm like, hello, Whitney and the daughter in a bathtub. I mean, Tom Ott. Hello. Ding, ding, ding, ding, or Aaron Carter. Oh oh, he he he drowned in a bathtub. Bullshit. Bullshit. Or John Denver. Oh, I'm one day, I don't know how to fly a plane. Oh oh, be because I couldn't reach the lever to switch gas tanks. I mean, that was their story. I'm like, really? I'm pretty sure the guy knew how to fly a plane. I mean, I'm not saying shit can't happen. Of course, it can. But, of course, it's, again, the typical MOs. Or or, like, let let's switch it up with Kobe. Oh, magically, the helicopter. Oh, okay. Right. It's like, who sacrificed to? Because, as you know, you study, you know, somebody gets out with okay. Well, in order to get to the next level, now you're at the level where you gotta sacrifice somebody. Usually, it's somebody close or they'll do it for you.
Like, I said, the city is sacrificed with his with with his mother, but, you know, it is what it is. Okay. I was looking up Tom Shop books. The one I was trying to think that had, like, a matrix cover on it was Cracking the Code, first, second, and third edition, America's Hope, to cancel bank loans without going to court, volume one, volume two, the American voters versus the banking system and technical guide to America's Hope, volume two. And then,
[06:02:35] Unknown:
let's see here.
[06:02:38] Unknown:
I think there's one or two other books he had. Well, those are the current ones on Amazon. One of his most famous was Cracking the Code third edition. I don't remember if this is the one that talks about UCC one. There was another book that he wrote or or or if it's this book where it talks about the UCC one and putting a lien on the name, kind of the sovereign stuff, but, basically, copyright the name at the state level, the federal level, possibly the county level, somehow and use it in court and say, okay. Under title 15, using copywritten material, you can't put my name on any documents, period, without compensation, blahdy blahdy blah.
And in theory, I'm like, okay. That kinda works. I I can understand that if you can somehow prove copyright over the name. But it's like, well, what name are you trying to copyright? Because it's like, who else has John Doe Smith? Right? Or is it the all caps name you're trying to copyright, or is it name your mother gave you? I mean, I'm like, how are you really trademarking that? But yet, obviously, people have gotten trademarks and registered whatever in service marks on on the name. I think one of the examples that was copywritten to very far extent was, like, the use of Michael Jordan's name, you know, specifically for Nike purposes or whatever. And, allegedly, there's a story where he can't get tickets because of how his name is used as product placement, this, that, and the other, and Air Jordan's part of the whole copyright thing. So, basically, he could speed down the road, get pulled over.
The cop knows well enough he can't write his name down on there or do anything with him because of that. And I guess before that was a big deal, supposedly happened, went to, his lawyers went to court and argued that copywritten thing in. It's gonna cost you more than this $50 ticket. You know, they didn't talk about the bonds or anything, but, and that you had to pretty much stop using the name because copywritten without proper licensing and usage, you can't use it. So in that sense, I could see that working, but I've have yet to hear anybody who did the whole federal copyrights registered with the r and c next to their name and probably the s for service, and even at the state level and then go win any court case using that argument.
Maybe it has and maybe it's been closed, or sealed or whatever. So that's also a possibility, but nothing I've heard in the public yet. Yeah. And I've heard people getting their copywritings and whatever. I'm like, okay. Anyway, his books are good if you wanna read them. Just keep in mind when they were written. And I'm pretty sure he suggests not to go run out and use them because you're you're probably gonna lose because you don't have the rest of the information that he didn't put on all his stuff for for obvious.
[06:06:25] Unknown:
Engie bastard.
[06:06:29] Unknown:
Well, he's protecting his intellectual property as as you will or knowledge that he has because he already knew people who know a lot and try to make it their own and become the next professional Tom Shaw when they have no business doing it. I mean, people have done it. I've seen people I mean, just look at TikTok. How many people talk about certain topics kinda like what I'm talking about or or on those lines, and it's like, okay. Well, I I kinda know where you got that information. It just kinda came off to the public, you know, let's say, three weeks ago, and you come on here like you're the know it all. I'm like, okay. Well, good luck. And people trying to apply that, especially if they haven't done studies and, you know, it sounds good to the ears, but do they understand what the hell you're talking about?
Now I do take I do give people credit who do come on before they start yapping. It's like, okay. Well, here's the disclaimer. You know, I don't promise this or this. My will and intent here is not to mislead or misconstrue the information. Do your due diligence. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not an attorney. If you need one, go hire one. You know, I'm not your attorney. You know, I'm not your legal advocate or whatever or ADA advocate, this, that, and the other. For informational purposes only, it's TikTok do not ban.
[06:08:12] Unknown:
Okay. Well, seeing as the stream's been up for six hours now, gonna take it down. I mean, you guys were talking about things I decided to leave it up.
[06:08:23] Unknown:
Don't do it.
[06:08:25] Unknown:
What do you mean don't do it? This is the longest stream I've ever had, for crying out loud. The damn stream has actually been going for six hours thirteen minutes and thirty six seconds. It is time to put it to bed. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, albeit not not the most significant portion. I mean, Radio Ranch was only the first two hours. Good grief. And, today today's special guest was Brent Allen Winters. He's not a guest. He's a cohost for crying out loud. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That is the matrixd0cs.com.
Go there. Go there. You will find links to the live radio stream, links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show, downloadables, exhibits, interviews, books. You name it. You'll find it there. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network saying bye bye and sayonara. Thanks for joining us. We'll catch you right back here tomorrow for the Sabado edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[06:09:51] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Friday at the Radio Ranch: Intros and network roll call
Stations, sites, and call‑in info with Paul Beener
Yom Kippur discussion and critiques of Judaism
Paul the Apostle, Babylonianism, and biblical authority
Roman Catholic vs. Catholic: word meanings and church history
General vs. specific call of God—Spurgeon’s lightning analogy
Progression in faith: accepting revelation step by step
Boot camp anecdotes and God’s persistence
Evidence, the Bible, and rejecting speculation
Read 1 John for 30 days: tests, assurance, and joy
Gamaliel, the Sanhedrin, and oral law vs. Scripture
Miracles as evidence—John Locke, Logos, and Christ’s deity
Pharisees vs. Sadducees and courtroom strategy in Acts
Luther, lightning, and the ‘effectual call’
Laws of nature and Nature’s God—Blackstone and common law
Magnacarta deep dive: usury, crowns, and conflicts
Teaching to learn: why revisiting sources matters
Knowing God: from head knowledge to lived experience
Open phones: clarifications and brief Q&A
Military talk: Hegseth speech, Trump, and policing cities
Posse Comitatus, federal vs. state power debate
Gold, BRICS, and reserve currency chatter
Mark of the Beast: digital ID, biometrics, and Revelation 13
Exegesis: Greek terms, phylacteries, and ‘the mark’ upon
Revelation’s warnings, cities, and partial fulfillments
Social Security numbers, licenses, and precursors to ‘mark’
Wrap of main show and transition to after‑show chat
After‑show: nukes debates, pathogens, conspiracies
Mortgages, trusts, UCC, and bank mechanics—deep dive
Contracts, corporate policies, and Disney liability debate
Final station sign‑off and site plugs
