On this Friday edition of Radio Ranch, I welcome longtime friend and collaborator Brent Allen Winters for a wide‑ranging conversation we’ve been having on-air for over a decade. We trace how 1453 and the fall of Constantinople helped export the Code of Justinian across Europe and into Russia, contrasting that Roman civil law tradition with the Anglo‑Saxon common law, juries, and the Bible-informed ethos Brent champions. We unpack usury as the “viper’s bite” in Scripture, the difference between lending consumables versus true rentals, and why words and jurisdiction matter. We also touch WWII cultural frames of “dying with honor” versus “living with honor,” Wycliffe, the Geneva Bible, and why stories persuade juries—and people—more than jargon. We shift to today’s financial architecture: banks that “create” credit, partnerships versus fiduciaries, and Basel III’s treatment of gold. Callers add threads on TreasuryDirect accounts, bonds, and trusts; a real-world caution about toxic western red cedar sawdust; and the latest swirl of claims around the Charlie Kirk killing and media narratives. Through it all, we keep returning to the through-line: recover the laws of nature and nature’s God, cultivate Christian culture, and do the next right thing—locally, lawfully, and faithfully.
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- 'TreasuryDirect (U.S. Dept. of the Treasury)': https://www.treasurydirect.gov/
- '31 CFR § 363.6 (eCFR)': https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-31/subtitle-B/chapter-II/part-363/section-363.6
- 'Magna Carta (British Library overview)': https://www.bl.uk/magna-carta
- 'John Wycliffe (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)': https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wyclif/
- 'Geneva Bible (Digital facsimiles)': https://digital.pitts.emory.edu/digital-collections/georgia/protestantism/geneva-bible/
- 'The Last Duel (film, 2021) – 20th Century Studios': https://www.20thcenturystudios.com/movies/the-last-duel
- 'Michael Hudson, “...And Forgive Them Their Debts” (author site)': https://michael-hudson.com/books/and-forgive-them-their-debts/
- 'Ellen Brown, “Web of Debt” (author site)': https://webofdebt.com/
- 'Turning Point USA (organization site)': https://www.tpusa.com/
- 'Candace Owens (official site)': https://www.candaceowens.com/
- 'WWCR – Worldwide Christian Radio': https://www.wwcr.com/
- 'Patriot Soapbox (referenced livestream destination)': https://patriotsoapbox.com/
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- 'Bible Gateway (Scripture reference tool)': https://www.biblegateway.com/
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[00:02:24] Unknown:
Ah, yes. So do we, Alvin, and we, we do double trouble trying today on Friday with Brent Winters who well, he might not be here yet, but he ain't gonna show up in a minute. He might just showed up right then. Friday edition, Radio Ranch, Brinker Sales, Brent Winters. Has he been here? Oh, I didn't see him up there hanging around. Sorry, Brent. Not used to you being early, my man. It's the September 26. Next week, we roll into October. October is always a historical, potentially volatile month, especially financially, and, this year will be no different. In fact, I believe it will be accentuated.
So, Brent, welcome here at the start of the program. How are you doing, my friend? The mute is mute. For any of the new students, we have this Friday thing with this, fella here. I'm think he's gonna come on and say hello in a second, mister Brent Winters. We've been doing these shows for over twelve years, best we can recollect. And, very, very rarely over all that time have we ever missed programs. We have, not often. And, anyway, so I was always tickled to death to have Brent along, and we have these conversations. Much of the time, I just kinda turn the show over to him.
It was originally Brent hadn't gone over this, so maybe some of the audience doesn't know this. The way that Brent and I met years ago, I was on, the first real network after I was doing cameos on RBN over there with Bennett. And I started with my own slot up at truth, up at, I at Microfact. And, on Microfact was a, fairly well known attorney in Patriot Circles named Larry Beecraft. Larry's a good guy. I've known him for years. Very personable, fun to be around. And, he had his own Saturday show, and he would send, out a email on who his guest was gonna be. And, so I get this email from Larry, and it says I'm gonna have, Brent Winters, an expert on the common law.
Well, that caught my attention right off. I understood back then that that's what we were doing in our program was moving over back under that. And, the fact that, here's a guy who's supposed to be an expert on it, and the only person I knew in the whole country that knew very much at all about it was my teacher, John w Benson. So my original thoughts were if this guy's an expert Brent's got his own commentary on that. If this guy's an expert, then, I I should see if I can get him and John Benson on a program together. And it was unfortunate timing that Don John was towards the end of his life, and we just never got to put that together. Unfortunately, it would have been a great program with these two. Anyway, so I said, well, why don't you just come on with me? And I was on on Fridays, and the show's in the afternoon drive slot at that time.
And so, with Brent's, incredible knowledge and adaptability on the Bible and connecting these things, and my original thought was that it was the way to end a week and people would have things to noodle on over the weekend because I didn't do Saturday shows back then. And so that's where we started. And from the very first, there was chemistry there, that both of us recognized, I guess. And, here we are all these years later. So, Brent, welcome.
[00:05:48] Unknown:
Hi, Roger. You know, what it is is if two two men can hang out together and not try to kill one another,
[00:05:57] Unknown:
then that's called good chemistry. There you go. Okay. I'll buy that.
[00:06:01] Unknown:
Well, fuming men have their own ideas like you and I, and we, for some reason, we've been able to maintain mutual respect to some degree. Some I don't think we're always what we ought to be. We've been able to. Two points, and you'd mentioned, expert, my own ideas about that. And I tell the story about my brother who was always a wordsmith even when he was a little kid, and we were supposed to be picking up brickbats out in the edge of the cattle lot and pile them, and we weren't doing it. When sitting around, he was talking. We got our we got the board of education applied to the seat of knowledge that day, I remember.
But we were sitting there trying to not working. And he said, do you know what an expert is? And I said, what? He said, well, x is the sign of the unknown, and a spurt is a drip of fluid under pressure. So an expert is an unknown drip under pressure. And, that stuck with me all through all of my life. I'm older now. And I when people say expert, I immediately think of that, and I don't wanna be, in that category. But experts are a dangerous bunch. Now what what I have focused on and the more I live, second point, Roger, the more I live, the longer I live, the more I know about less and less.
Mhmm. The longer I live, the more I know about less and less. A Chinese communist told me that once. I was, in the old main building where I was going to school, and it was an old building, and there was a janitor's closet there on the First Floor. And I went walking by one time, and there was this highfalutin, trigonometry professor sitting on a bucket in this janitor's closet talking to the janitor. And he happened to be a Chinaman from communist China. Somehow he got here. He was a in communist China. He really wasn't a communist. And he was a trigonometry professor, and, I had him. I couldn't understand anything he said.
Really, I mean, he he he just couldn't speak English, for nothing. And, but he did tell me and got across to me. Nice fella. I'd try to go to him and get help because I couldn't understand what he's what he was talking about. But he said, the longer I live, the more I know about less and less. And he knew a lot about arithmetic and mathematics and plain geometry and trigonometry. And what's that what's that kinda, arithmetic where you try to discover the the speed of an object, which you really can't discover at any given point. Calculus? Yeah. Calculus. He he thought that too. And,
[00:08:49] Unknown:
yeah.
[00:08:50] Unknown:
Oh, Brent Brent, hold on. Hold on just a second. Could whoever's got the mic open in the background, please close it. Your conversation is bleeding over on the program. Thank you.
[00:09:01] Unknown:
Hey, Gary. That's Gary. Well, so the nice thing nice thing that you say, Robert, but, we've been able to get along. And, sometimes when we get off, I say, I shouldn't have said that. That was offensive thing to say or I I do that sometimes, Roger. I try to be careful. The Bible says honor all men, and that takes work. It takes work. Boy, boy, does it? Yeah. And that's our job, though. Even the ones that don't deserve it. Oh, that exactly. They that's what that's what the book says. It makes no provisos, no exceptions. Well, what does that mean? Well, that doesn't mean you let them do whatever they want to. Yeah. You may have to kill a man even. I'm not saying do that, but there times come when self defense is necessary. And even in those cases, we're not to torture or abuse or even bad mouth other men.
Do what the law of God says, in every case, and that's the Bible says that's the definition of the love of God. But it doesn't look like love to many people. I can tell you by experience. Yeah. And much much if I've had any suffering in life, and I haven't had a lot compared to some people, I'm still north of dirt and and moving. You know? Some people, the evil empire kills them, jails them. I'm still I'm still running loose. Although, I've had my problem with people throwing me in jail, but I'm They wanted to. They just didn't get to do it long enough. Yeah. Thank thank thank you, Lord, for the 12 man jury. I'll say that. And that you. They sprung me. They sprung me. And, and it was a stacked jury, by the way, and that's the resilience of our common law tradition.
Even when the jury is stacked, it can work. Not always. No. But we got a shot in America at justice. They don't even have a shot at it, it, a fair shot at it in the rest of the world, oh, well, the rest of the non common law world. But where the jury is, you've got a shot at defending yourself. That's why, of course, the evil empire and the useful idiots thereof worked so hard to get to get rid of the jury. That's right.
[00:11:04] Unknown:
How did Russia miss attaching themselves to the Anglo Saxon common law, the Slavs there?
[00:11:11] Unknown:
Well, that that's an important question. I'm glad you brought that up. Here's how it happened, Roger. It happened in the year primarily in the year 1453. You know, those folk were rub rather tribal.
[00:11:24] Unknown:
They were a tough bunch. You said that's the the Rus'? The Slavs, the Rus'? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're a tough bunch. And Oh, absolutely.
[00:11:32] Unknown:
And and and smart. I don't demean them. Again, the Bible says honor all men. But what happened in 1453 was the fall of Constantinople, and a 100 about a 180,000 Islamic Turks surrounded the what was known in the ancient world that the middle ages, known as the impregnable city. There was no way anybody could breach all those walls, and they had a lot of big walls around that city. And that was the at that time, the last geographic vestige of the Roman Empire. The last geographic vestige in the Roman Roman emperor. It was like the Vatican. It was just a small place by comparison to a country, but it was a country, a city state. The emperor was inside. Of course, they were the Eastern church by that time, but there's really never the Eastern church and the Western church, they're the same church, always have been. Do they have their differences now? Yeah, politically, but they're the same church. They came from the same same source and and they fundamentally have the same law and it's not the Bible. It's the canon civil laws of Rome. And that's what, at that time, had overtaken the law of Babylon, had overtaken the Western and Eastern churches. Well, the Islamic Turks had surrounded the city, and, there was a turncoat, among the Islamic tur Turks, a turncoat from the Christian East named Urban Getties.
I believe it's spelled g e t t e s. Urban. Characteristically his name was Urbane, which means city and the law of the city. Well, but he was his engineer and he invented, it wasn't a big deal. And those days it was, it was a cannon made of brass that fired an 1,100 or 1,200 pound projectile. And now a a cannon that for example, when I was a a young fella and I was around armament, I remember we had, we were armed with three five inch 54 guns. And they weren't guns you put shells in. They were it was kinda funny. You you threw the powder in sacks. You threw it in. You threw the shell in. You threw the wadding in, then you rammed it home and fired. It wasn't a gun that was modern enough to even have shells, but that was, part of the armament at that time. And that fired a shell that or a projectile. It was five inches just over five and a half inches diameter.
And that was big and could do some serious damage. It didn't weigh it didn't weigh anything like 1,200 pounds. This thing weighed projectile weighed 1,200 pounds. Can you imagine? Well, they kept firing that thing away at one point in the in the walls and just kept going through the walls, and they eventually got through the walls. You know, you put trauma at one place on any piece of material enough times, and it will shatter. It may take fifty years, a hundred years if you can do it, but if you've got a big enough projectile like that and keep pounding away at the same place, it will explode sooner or later. The then the walls just blew apart after time, and the Islamic church rushed in and murdered everybody in sight. They didn't have any discrimination of women, children, and they murdered the emperor. He had done he'd done mass that morning. He was Romanist. He was he was Babylonian, the best way to say it. He was he was in in the East.
But Babylonian, the mass is Babylonian, has nothing to do with the Bible, nothing to do with Christianity, nothing to do with Jesus Christ. No evidence of it anywhere. It's from the courts of Babylon. And, he did mass that morning, donned his armor, and waited for the inevitable, and he was murdered. But there were some people in the city of Constantinople because remember, Constantinople was cons was named after Constantine, the Roman emperor who founded it and moved this Christianity, the the capital of Christianity from Rome to Constantinople. Well, when Constantinople fell, Rome then became the capital again and still is, and Constantinople has never recovered to the to the degree it was. But, the people the the folk inside, the bureaucrats that were the head of the bureaucracy called the the Babylonian church, took the documents that the church had compiled over the centuries.
And among those documents were the the manuscripts of the New Testament in the original tongues that, had been hidden for centuries. And the Latin texts in the East, though, in the East, the Greek text was still the text in the West. The Latin ball gate is still the official Bible, not the original tongues, not, not the tongues the Bible was written in, but the, the translation into Latin of Jerome around April Well, in the West and the East, and that's still still the official Bible of the Babylonian church, Rome. Yes. But the, in the East, they were, they were speakers of Greek and they kept those manuscripts there, those, those, Greek manuscripts of the New Testament and of the Old Testament, they had the manuscripts there. Well, the the priesthood, the Babylonian priesthood of the church in the East got out before the Islamic Turks annihilated the city and murdered the inhabitants, they got out with those documents, and they but they more importantly and more directly to your question, they got out with the crown jewels of the Roman empire, which Constantine had moved to Constantinople.
And they escaped with those to a place called Moscow. Today, it's called Moscow or Moscow. And the powerful families in Moscow got it. And they said, ah, the crown jewels give the power of the ancient Roman Empire to us. And so the gods gave it to them. They took the crown jewels and, and, most powerful tribal leader called himself in Roman fashion, Caesar, and took the crown jewels, called himself Caesar. In Russia, it's pronounced czar. Correct. And the czars, of course, rule from that time up until World War I and those families. And they took on the Roman law. They got out with the code of Justinian. The code of Justinian is the code in its various forms that now rules almost every country in the world.
There's a German form that's very well known called the code of Bismarck, a French co code called the Poe Code Napoleon, and those codes are the code of Justinian tweaked a little. They put their name on it, these emperors like Bismarck and and, Napoleon put their names on it so people would think they were it was their code before. And that No no ego there. No. No ego. It's always that way with this. It's ruled by a single will. Well, the church of Rome had taken it on even before that in, in the eleventh century. They it was discovered, and that's when it became officially the canon law of the Church of Rome applied to an ecclesiastic purpose.
But Russia said, we are the reconstitution of the Roman Empire. Just like Hitler said, we are reconstitution of the Roman Empire. Actually, Bismarck said that because, Saxony retained the common law tradition that arose from that part of the world in in our in in history, anyway, retained that up until Bismarck in World War one. But it had seeped in in a lot of ways. And but the the our common law tradition, the unwritten custom, the law of the land, remained the the law of Saxony until very late. Martin Luther is the one that began its demise by telling the electors of Saxony that if they didn't take on the law of the Roman Empire, they wouldn't be able to fight Rome. It was a life death struggle. And he said, we need a martial law that enables you to do what you have to do to fight them. And so they took took on the Roman code at that time, and that's how it became the code of Bismarck. Of course, Bismarck took it on fully, and that was the reason for World War one and World War two.
I was just reading the other day about, of course, some of you have heard of the warrior code of the Japanese. Well, it's no small thing that the Japanese, the Japs took on the code of Bismarck of the German form of that code, and they had it from the late eighteen hundreds forward, but they mixed it with their religion, of course, which was easy to do because the code of Bismarck is Babylonian and their Shintoism and their warrior code is fully martial, Babylonian. And that's what the Babylonian code is. That's what all of the world is ruled by a martial form of law called called the law of the city. Well, they took it on, and it was their they they said, of course, the Japs said in their war against Russia, which was a core war in two war in powers, they they whooped Russia in naval conflict and won the war. Two warring powers that were under that, code. Of course, Russia was under the form of the code that came from Constantinople Mhmm. The Greek form.
And I didn't I didn't understand completely how how close Russia's tongue is to the Greek tongue until I got involved with a client that had a contract written in Russia with a Russian company, and he wanted me to look at it. I said, shucks. I don't read Russian. What are you talking about? And, but I got to look into the darn thing, and I said, that looks awful lot like Greek writing to me, and it does. Russian the Russian letters do look that way. And I I don't know the history of this, but I discovered, of course, we had to have it translated. I wasn't gonna depend upon
[00:21:49] Unknown:
my trying to decipher it to myself. You weren't gonna depend back on Google Translator?
[00:21:55] Unknown:
Oh, no. And although that's a good starting point, you know, you kinda get an idea. I can look at it and get an idea of what was going on, but it but, anyway, the the Japs then, they said that we are spirit. It was religious. And war is always religious. Always, always, always. God war is God's business for good or evil. Whatever happens, it's his business. And wars are fought over a a single religious question, and it's always the same. Who's gonna be the final arbiter of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal? That's what it always is. And Adolf Hitler said he was. He did. He at his command, men were executed in, in a lot of ways, individually and in mass.
That's because the code of Bismarck, the code of Justinian, that's the power that it purport purports to give to government, and the Japs had the same thing. And but they said, we don't have what America has. You know, the Japs and the Germans said it, but not to the degree because they still had Christian sensibilities. What an odd situation and a an important study to understand how the evil empire overtook a culture in Germany with Christian sensibilities. They did it with the code of Bismarck. God will not excuse men for allowing governments of men or men in their in their final capacity, a government by a single will. God won't excuse that. I don't care what your Christian sensibilities are. That's a violation and a usurpation of the Messiah himself.
Only the Messiah of God has authority to combine all three branches of government in himself, and Hitler did that. You go to the Bible, you see this traced through from the beginning of the Bible throughout. Why was king why was the kingdom ripped, as the prophet says, from Saul, king of Israel? It was ripped from him because he took on the judicial powers and the executive powers as king and the legislative powers. He took them on all three. And that's when, Nathan came to him and said, or was it Nathan? No, I don't think it was. I don't think it was. It was Samuel came to him and said, but you can go check, the kingdom I'm quoting.
It says the kingdom, but the the Hebrew text said the kingdom kingdom has been ripped from you. And Nathan was the one that's or Samuel was the one that stood before David. And I think he's the one that said that to Saul. You can go see. But that's when Saul lost the kingdom because he combined all three branches of government and himself. And we see that throughout the Bible. Will you do that now here on earth and God will judge your nation? And the Japs said, and they it was in everything they said that our spirit will overcome will overcome the mechanical technology of the Americans. They're cowards.
They're soft, and they depended upon the Banzai attack at close quarters as many of you know. Well, that didn't work against Thompson submachine guns and 12 gauge pump shotguns. And, Winchester had made all all about a one over well over a million and distributed to the American forces. What did the Americans wanna do? This is religion, friends. Now let's say, what did the Japs want to do? They taught their folk from being little. You die with honor. You never accept capture. We're not signing the Geneva Convention because it doesn't apply to us. We're not going to be taken prisoners. You are under orders to die than to be taken prisoner. If you have to kill yourself, do that. Commit Harry Carey. But you don't be taken prisoner. We're not signing the Geneva Convention, and our superior spirit at close quarters will destroy. And what did the Americans say? What did their religious culture? It's a culture thing. What is culture? Culture is religious culture? It's a culture thing. What is culture? Culture is religion externalized.
Culture is whatever you cultivate is your fundamental beliefs as a country externalized. What the Americans say? They said, no. No. No. We're, we believe we should live with honor, not die with honor. Death is inevitable. There's nothing honorable about death. Death is the mark of sin. If it wasn't for our sin, we wouldn't die. But God has decreed it, He's provided the remedy. That's our culture. Whether men understood it or not, that's what governed their thinking. And their idea, the old quote from Patton, is make the other poor SOB die for his country. Well, there's some truth in that. That's that's part of Christian culture.
But he, of course, he made it a little rougher in its presentation. But it's a matter of living with honor that the Americans are after or were after in their culture, whether they understood their Christianity and their Christian culture or not. The Japs wanted to die with honor. That doesn't work, and they died. And they did not die even with honor. And they came to that conclusion. They came to that conclusion. Once they faced the technology on the ground, and then they take tasted the technology from the skies at Okinawa, and then they tasted the technology from the skies with the nuclear bombs.
And they long before that, after Guadalcanal got rid of the religious point of view. They said this isn't working. It took about two years, but it finally, they figured it out and said this is not working. Of course, false religion never works. Dying with honor is not the goal of Christianity. The goal of Christianity is to live with honor, and it's the honor of Jesus Christ that he lends to us. We don't have our own. And if folk don't understand that, they will go off into this dying with honor baloney that Islam, all false religions are the same. In all false religions, you die with honor for your God. Yeah. In Christianity, your God dies for you.
That's the difference. And he gives you honor by his death. And that's, what our God amazing love, how can it be that thou, my God, shouldst die for me? 'Tis mystery all, the immortal dies. Who can explore the strange design? In vain, the firstborn seraph tries to plumb the depths of love divine. Amazing love, how can it be that thou my god shouldst die for me? That is contrary to law of Babylon, contrary to the fundamentals of the law of the city, and that is our common law tradition. Our common law tradition is a Christian tradition. It is the Christian tradition.
[00:28:40] Unknown:
That's what I understand about it. Roger, I'm prepared when you are comfortable. Well, I'm just here with my mouth kinda open because I've never heard that comparison before of dying with honor versus living with honor. It's really important. My mind is sitting here turning it over and looking at different parts of it. Very interesting. Thank you Yeah. So much for that. I mean, that just makes so much sense.
[00:29:02] Unknown:
Yeah. And all I'm doing is giving testimony, Roger, of what I learned with my experience with the Bible, but death is the badge of our dishonor. That's what it is in Christianity. Uh-huh. Why do we die in the day you sin, you die? Our grandma and grandpa Eve, our maker told them that. That's the badge of our dishonor. How do we gain honor? We gain it through the life that Jesus Christ gives to us. There is no other way.
[00:29:27] Unknown:
It's that or nothing. Go ahead. And and and and over in, Islam, you you you get 70 virgins.
[00:29:33] Unknown:
Yeah. You die with honor. You blow yourself up. Now how stupid is that? How stupid is that? Now the boys on Guadalcanal and Palau and and even as they went along the other island hopping they did, I know they weren't theologians. I know a lot of them didn't think that, but they were products of a Christian culture, and they probably didn't even know that. That's why Christian culture is so important, my friends. Well, how do you get it? You get it with a critical mass of Christian folk that live in a country, a critical mass. Don't think that politics is gonna change. Politics is all about majority rule. That's not gonna change anything, but there is a culture. Case in point, Charlie Kirk.
[00:30:14] Unknown:
Charlie Kirk
[00:30:15] Unknown:
You and I are on the same page. Go ahead. Charlie Kirk was funded by the evil empire. I don't think Charlie understood that. Charlie Kirk was a young man that had right ideas about law and government, and he taught them. But he was right about that. But he didn't understand the dangers of the evil empire, and there were evil people who funded him. And then when he began to question their doctrines, they said, woah ho, son. We made you famous. You turn code on us, we'll kill you. That's the way the evil empire works. Yeah. And Really? They killed him. And I think oh, go ahead, Roger. What's up? I was just gonna say, I just saw this morning some new new information on this. Yeah. I've said
[00:30:55] Unknown:
Candace Owens, was, of course, very close friends with Charlie Kirk. K? And she's got connections inside Turning Point USA. Uh-huh. And somebody flipped her a memo that he signed on September 7 concerning mainly the flow of cash through the organization. Uh-huh. And and not only to the point of where was it being spent, but where was it coming from? Yeah. And was he being used as some sort of a money laundering platform for these goons too? Mhmm. K. Now I don't know if you've seen I'll add let me add this and we can talk about it. We'll get maybe some audience too. Paul had something to say because we briefly touched on this right before the show.
Stu Peters. You're aware of him, I think. Who? A guy named Stu Peters. Oh, go ahead. No. I don't know him. He's from Minneapolis. He used to be a bounty hunter or some other stuff. He's very outspoken. He's very outspoken on the Jewish issue. And, Stu Peters has come up with, more than a theory, I guess, except I don't think you can see the video now, that, you know, Charlie had a lavalier microphone on. Uh-huh. And that this may have been the bullet with some sort of planted inside and engineered to where it would go off off the battery compartment of the lavalier microphone. That's why there's no blood spattering anywhere from a high power projectile.
And, I did not know that his entire security detail was Israeli. Did you know that?
[00:32:36] Unknown:
Well, that,
[00:32:37] Unknown:
figures in, though, doesn't it? Yeah. Doesn't it? Doesn't it, though?
[00:32:41] Unknown:
Yeah. The the Bible said Jesus Christ says, we have the record of it. Woe unto you when all men approve of you. Woe unto you. There's a problem there. If you're really telling the truth, I mean, the whole truth, not just part of it, people aren't gonna like you much. God will take care of you, and he may even take care of you very well. But don't think people are gonna like you. That ain't gonna happen. That's true. I guess I'm talking like an American. I would when I talk, I think, well, is is Paul from Yorkshire listening? I and I don't wanna offend his, proper King's English ears. Oh my god. No. No. No. I know I do probably.
Can't help it. I really appreciate them. We've said this before. When he comes on, I'm just I did my mouth goes open. I drop my jaw, and I listen. I said, okay. This is the way I'm supposed to talk. You know? That's he is he enunciates his words well. I have a friend who grew up in the middle and, near the Cartswald Skull. The the cart no. What do they call it? The carts carts? Oh, I forget how to say it now. It's in the middle, kinda in the middle, but toward the border of Wales. The Kartswold, W 0 L D, Scarp. That's it. The Kartswold Scarp.
And, and she is she corrects me. Close friend. Married to a fellow, I know. Close friend. She corrects me constantly on my my habit of not being precise in my pronunciation and hitting my consonants hard so that people can understand me. And I appreciate it because I know when I'm on the public platform, I want to be understood. I'm not down in the bottom lands on the Wabash River somewhere talking to the boys that live along the river. You know, they're lazy talkers, and I grew up that way. Somebody said to me the other day, it's not it's not Washington DC, Brent. It's Washington.
I said, well, it may be to you, but that's not the way I've always heard it. But I it's hard to get that out of your system. Yes. Of course, I'm old yeah. Old enough now. I don't I don't, worry about it too much. But I do want to be understood, Roger, and I do believe there's something to be said with distinct pronunciation. And it takes a lot of work, and you probably I'm guessing, Roger, you've been on the radio a lot in the old days. I'm sure you try to do that too or have tried to do it.
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I think it's funny sometimes to use the alternate pronunciations to make a point. Aluminium?
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Yeah. Yeah. No. I get that, Rob. I've done that. And it also it also infuriates
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myrrh. So it gives Oh, it does. A little satisfaction.
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You know? Well, my grandma used the she she never left.
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Go ahead. You wanna say something else? Well, Paul Both both pronunciations, aluminum and aluminum, are correct. It just depends Just depends on what part of the globe you're on.
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That's That reminds me that reminds me of the bailiff standing in the back of the courtroom. And, of course, it was a day when there wasn't anybody there, and there were a couple of people making arguments, couple lawyers. And the first lawyer stood up, and he was pounding the books and pounding the table and using everything from bathos to pathos to blasphemy, trying to make his point. And he persuaded the bailiff. He was just standing in the back, you know, at parade rest kinda but he had to be there. And he there was nobody else in the courtroom, and he said, out loud, he said, you know, I think you're right.
And then the other fella stood up, make his point, and he did the same thing. He was speaking with great animation and making his point. And, and the bailiff said, you know, I think you're right. And in the frustration, the judge blurted out, but they can't both be right. And and, the truth is that there's no pancake that's so thin. It doesn't have two sides. But I still say, one of those two pronunciations ought to be right. Long as you get the point across, it doesn't make any difference. But if you said it that fancy way, it sound like Latin, I would have known what you're I didn't know what you're talking about until you till Paul came on and told me. So I'd go for the aluminum just because that makes the point and people understand it.
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And I like to use the other one to throw them a curveball.
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What what's that?
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Aluminium. Aluminium.
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Well, here's the thing, Roger. You make a point. Sometimes if you do it intelligently and discriminately, you can mispronounce a word just for fun just so peep it'll catch people's attention and Wait. What do you say? Yeah. I get your point. Like It's kinda like my Spanish. You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I get your boy. You you you had your dog. I know you've talked about your dog. When you talk to your dog and he looks at you and cocks his head Yeah. Well, that's what my Spanish does, on on other Spanish speakers many times. And Yeah. I just finally got to the point. I said, you know, it's better to have them remember me as that gringo that couldn't pronounce a word right. You know, a lawyer pronouncing it right, and they just go on about your way. You know?
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Yeah. Lawyers take particular delight in I've been places where they do. We're in mispronouncing the law of French words that are from England. You know? Like, well, there are a lot of them in our that we use today. Some of them encrypt in their language language, and we don't even know that they're law French. But, they take particular delight in doing it, and I do too. It's kinda fun. Pronounce some weird word and see if the other lawyers know what you're talking about. And there are words like that in our tradition. Mhmm. But, my grandmother, she'd never been away from home very far.
She lived to be very old, but she liked to read, and, she would see how words were printed, and she would pronounce them the way they were printed. So if she'd talk about Puget Sound, she called it Puget Sound. She talked about San Jose, she called it San Jose. Or San, the Santa Santa Fe Railroad, she called the Santa Fe. And she did it persistently. And once I tried to correct her, I don't think she believed me anyway. I was just a kid telling her, well, that ain't the way that ain't the way. She didn't like me to say that. She liked to be precise. That's why she pronounced it the way it was written. Her and old Hazel Guard lived up on the well, about a couple mile away from her. She was big on if somebody had a name, you don't pronounce a shortened form of it. Like, if your name is Steven
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Oh, nickname.
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You don't call him Steve. You know? Mhmm. He was really into that. Well, her aunt Hattie, and I knew aunt Hattie Bremner, she was that way too. And but she was school teacher, and so she was real. She was kind of a Nazi about stuff like that. Yeah. So people caught on to it. Well, Roger, did you have plans for today? Well, down here,
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it's funny. More so in Argentina, I think. Everybody's got a nickname. It's a short deal of their name. You know? Flavius, Flav, and and all that. It's really in the culture. So for what
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Well, where I grew up, that was in the culture too. I don't see it so much anymore, but all I I grew up with boys. My entire grown up year is Roger, and I still don't know their first name because we called them I was thinking just the other day about old Gooseberry Felipe. Everybody called him Gooseberry. I didn't know what his name was. Never asked. His dad people my dad called his dad Gooseberry, and everybody called him Gooseberry. And then, found out later some got well, we knew him. It was old, Fireball Taggart. There was another one. I don't know what Fireball's first name was.
But, fella came over to always come fishing. His name was Brewer. And, he'd bring he'd fish. He liked bluegill, Roger, and he'd catch a whole bucket full of them. You know? Right. Go fry them in a pan. Well, no. He'd give them to us. He didn't like to eat them. Funny thing. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So he'd and he'd he'd even help us. He liked to clean them. He'd catch them, clean them, give them to us. And he was in our pond. Well, he came over one day, and he said, where's Muldoon? I said, Muldoon, what are you talking about? He said his name was Shorty, by the way.
I don't know what his name was. Shorty Brewer. And, he said, we're in Muldoon. Is he around? I said, who's Muldoon? He said, your dad. I said, oh, I didn't oh, he said, you didn't know his name was Muldoon. That's what everybody always called your dad. Well, I hadn't been around his friends, see, that he grew up with and and, didn't know. But but that's the way it was around there, old Slug. We had a I grew up with a fellow named Slug Shover. I still don't know what his name is. He's still around. So I had to I understand that. I didn't know Spanish culture was that way.
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Yeah. Well, you get along with a lot of surprises down here on the Spanish culture, but it's kinda interesting, really. I was flashing on when you talking about bluegills. Did you take them home? Did you how did y'all cook bluegills? How'd you how'd your mama cook the bluegills for you? Well, you roll them in flour. Right. And then you fry them in lard. Right. Okay. Let me ask you a question. My mom's favorite part of that fish was the fins.
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Have you ever seen anybody crunch the fins of bluegill and perch? Oh, no. We did that too, Roger. We fried them up. Oh, they were so crisp. Oh, yeah. The bones would become crisp and you chew them up. Yeah. Okay. Swallow them. I just used to see my mom do that. I go, holy smokes. I'm that's one habit I'm not picking up from you. Well, you had to fry them. You had to fry them enough. But I'm of the opinion now if you do that, you're gonna get that calcium if you fry them up. It probably destroys a lot of other stuff, but and it's good for your gizzard. As dad said, you know, roughage is good for the gizzard. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the way we did them when we did mushrooms the same way, those, mushrooms.
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No. We don't have gizzards, do we?
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Who? Oh, no. No. No. That that was just a saying. Yeah. Good for the gizzards. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. I don't think I got a gizzard.
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I do like to because if I had a gizzard I've met I've met some people I thought I might have had one. But what, Paul?
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No. If I had a gizzard, I'd give it back to the chicken.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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You can buy those gizzards. Buy those gizzards cheap. Fry them up. They're pretty good.
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Well, Paul, why don't you, ring, big Paul's bell and see if he's available to come on and yak with us today because Brent just asked me a question. We had some stuff on the table here. We've been going over last few weeks, first time we've ever done this, at the request of a listener in Utah to go over the declaration of independence, which Brent we spent several shows on. I don't remember if we finished it or not. Oh, what came up? First. Okay. Well, what came up last week, though, that is well, I think particularly poignant at this time in place Uh-huh. Was, is stuff of financial and usury.
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Oh, that was that was a question from last week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And and all that's so appropriate. I mean, listen. We're right on the front end of some really horrendous financial activity and probably other stuff. It appears they're instituting the agenda of The US being in some sort of a civil war and and the financial stuff and all these things coming in at the same time. So and it it very well so whatever's coming may may happen before the end of the year, and we're going into next week on Wednesday, October, which is always traditionally the, volatile financial month in many ways and others. Of course, October is the devil's month, and they like that a lot. But, it's because the fiscal the federal fiscal budget is, comes and gets renewed at the September, I believe.
And, also, all the corporations' earning statements come out for the third quarter. And you've got those two things plus whatever chicanery they wanna play into this. I mean, it's just an unbelievable mess they've set up here to try and con yeah. Effect the continuation of their funny money. We get all the usury the the vigorous, they call it. I don't know if you knew that, Brent. All the vigorous is theirs. Oh, boy. And and we get stuck with the with the refuge. Anyway, it's a it's a hell of an important time. It's a really important subject for everybody. And, this is the main part of it is usury. I mean, what's their whole deal?
Their whole deal is to just like they said, the leaven of the Pharisees, they're gonna leaven up all this debt. They're gonna get you enslaved and have you build it, and they're gonna stick you with the debt, and they're gonna walk away fat and happy with trillions of leavened proceeds. But, all of their proceeds and their the fruit of their labor and their leaven, Brent, is all based on fraud Well Which means it's not it's not applicable. So these are the things that are floating around in the background, and we're at that time, and that was brought up last week. We've it's a one of my favorite subjects. Hold on just a second, Gere. And so that was where I would like to, if we we could, plunge down there. So noodle on that for a second, Brent. If you would, let me turn to Gary because he's off in the mountains working out there in Montana.
Gary, how are you doing?
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Oh, I'm fine. Yeah. I'm siding the house up in the mountains in Lakeside, Montana. What I was really interested in is the Bible talks about gold and silver. Bible talks about no usury. And my thing is wanting to know if Brent could enlighten us on the historical facts of how they convinced the Christian community. Because a hundred years ago, we were a lot more Christian than we are today. Yeah. How they convinced the Christian community to go along with usury and getting rid of gold and silver. So that's it. I'm gonna get back to work and listen to you guys. Thank you. Oh, sounds mighty sounds mighty pretty up there. Gary, Gary, before you just run off and go concentrate on the siding.
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Where did you say you are? Lakeside?
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Yep. Lakeside, Montana.
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Oh, okay. Now, Gary, have you been listening for a long time?
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Well, yeah. I've been listening to Roger for, what, ten years, Roger, at least? At least. At least.
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Gary, are you are you near Flathead Lake? Is that where that is?
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Well, it's sitting right on the edge of Flathead Lake. I can see the lake from where I'm standing.
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Okay, Gary. Were you, did you have a some kind of a bad spell not too long ago, not too many months ago, and you were in the hospital?
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Yep. Year ago. Year ago in July. I was in the ICU for seven days.
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Yeah. And but you got over it.
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So far, the Lord's been good to me. I've got over it. Yes.
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What what what was it? Are you at liberty to say? Because I was I thought about you the other day, Gary, because you came on and talked about it some, and I thought what happened to that guy? And I tell you, I prayed. I said, I hope he got over it. And I'd then now I'm putting it together. You know?
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Uh-huh. A severe a severe allergic reaction to western red cedar. That is a highly toxic sawdust. And I was cutting that indoors indoors for four weeks, did not know that, and, my body, subjected itself to that toxicity of that wood. Goodness. You're kidding me. Nope. Western red cedar is a highly toxic wood.
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Of course, I know that now.
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Yeah. I didn't know it did.
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Right. At that time, you said, I don't know. You talked to us on the phone, and you said, I nobody knows what's wrong with me, and they can't find out. Apparently, somehow, somebody found out. How did they do it?
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Well, we've got a good buddy down there in Georgia named Harvey.
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Oh. And that good
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that good buddy got me on a detox program that has cured my pancreatitis and has made me feel a whole lot better because, evidently, some toxic effects of that wood was still in my system until he got me on a detox system. And if you think about it Yeah. If you think if you think about it, western red cedar is impervious to bugs. It's impervious to rot. So it's gotta be something in there that's very toxic.
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Just like Cyprus. Yep. I mean, that stuff will last a 100 people. I'd I'd like to say God bless Harvey Wysong, my dear old friend, and his whole family who, his his older brother's got is well, he has got a real severe case of glioblastoma, if you don't know what that is. It's a deadly, very fast growing brain cancer, probably comes from some of the polio vaccines years ago. And Charlie, his older brother, he's the one that's gone out and fought abortion his whole life, gotten all kinds of trouble, you know, fighting and trying to close down abortion clinics and all that. He's got 15 children and four 45, probably got 50 now, for at least 45 grandchildren.
So, that he's, I've I talked to him once a few weeks ago. He's doing good, but he's spending an awful lot of time with Charlie.
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Oh, well, I'm glad to hear that too, Roger. I wondered what happened to him. Thank you, Gary, for calling in. Do me a favor, and I'll I'm gonna talk about usually, but do me a favor. Will you promise me you'll go to the that you'll email me, at go to the website commonlawyer.com commonlawyer.com and email me.
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So, Gary, did the other folks in construction around there, when you queried them about this? Were they aware of the potential backlash of red cedar? Western red cedar, I think you call it?
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Yes. Found out from a contractor that's been contracting up here for a long time, and he actually had some of his workers get affected by it. And we talked, and he told me about it. Then I had another young man that's a buddy of mine. Actually, he's a national and in the went to my classes. It affected him. He ended up in the emergency room with it.
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Wow. Gary. Gary, did you hear me when I asked if you would email me?
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Yeah, Brent. I'll be happy to do that. It'll it probably won't be till Monday, though. Yeah. I'm up on-site of the mountain range.
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Yeah. Go to commonlawyer.com. Please do that. I wanna I wanna
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check-in with you. But, anyway, let me get to usury, if I may. Yeah. Let's launch down that path. Thank you, Gary. We're sure glad that Harvey, got you cured, Betty.
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Yeah. Well,
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a lot better than a lot better than all them doctors they sent me to. Let me tell you that much.
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Did you go to the doctors and give them this information as feedback or not?
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Yes. I did. Okay. The cardiologist. They thought I had heart failure and heart attack and everything else. So I'll be darned. Come to find out it was not
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Well, his partner, Gina, is right there by his side the whole time, so give her our best too. Alright?
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Well, Gary, she
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She can hear you. She's down on her knee digging some rocks out right now. Okay. Well, that's good. Keep her working. There you go.
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Alright. Bye.
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See you later. No. He's gone. Joan, he's gone. What would you what
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I was gonna ask What do you think Well, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No. I'm him, what did the doctor say when after Gary told him it was from the western red cedar? And, also, I wanted to ask him his student, his national student. He probably was not stowing red cedar in the closed room, and so I was wondering how he got the toxic reaction from the red cedar. Thank you.
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Bye. Gary, did you hear that? I think he's gone, Joan. And what those are That's an interesting question. I'd like to know a little bit more about that too. It's quite interesting. And I wonder with its, potential toxicity, is it something you'd use, like, inside a home for walls or floors or something?
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Yeah. You can. You can. When it's up on the walls and stuff, it won't hurt you. It's the sawdust that you breathe in while you're covered. And I I cut it for four weeks and trim and did a whole basement in the trim, walls, everything, and thought I was just getting a head cold Yeah. Until until the attack happened.
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Boy, you just never know, do you? That is really interesting, Gary. Yeah. Thanks. I know that. Did John did you hear John did you hear John's questions, Gary?
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Yeah. The young man that was doing it, he was doing it a deck, an outside deck, and come down with the same toxicity.
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Yeah. Yikes outside. He was cutting it.
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Yep. So you definitely if you ever cut western red cedar, please make sure you wear a mask.
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Yeah. Make sure you need that 90 five mask.
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Yeah. You don't wanna breathe the sawdust.
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Wow. Gary, what about, what did the doctor say when you what did the doctor say when you told him it was red cedar dust?
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Well, they didn't really believe me at first till they started looking it up and finding out how toxic it was.
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Oh. I'll be darned. All they wanna
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do all they wanna do is give you a pill. Go home and take these pills.
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Right. I got my golf games in thirty minutes.
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Harvey did not know it was red cedar. Right? He just said, oh, do a detox.
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Right? Yeah. No. Harvey knew Harvey was an old woodworker who's worked with wood for years. That's what he had. Yeah. What happened. Really? He knew exactly what happened to me.
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Harvey's one of the most amazing people I've ever met in my entire lifetime, I'm a tell you. And his whole family is just rock solid with these kind of virtues and morals. And, I'm sorry we don't get to have him around here as much as we used to. He's just a a really unique individual. So Alright.
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You guys have a good day. I need to get back to work at this house site. Buddy. Okay.
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Well, take a view of the vista for us. I know it's just stunning. On the usury, Brent.
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Yeah. On the usury. I'm gonna be checking this information. I'm taking this information from the winterized translation of the Bible from the original tongues. And this is appendix number 59. And in this appendix, the the footnotes, you know, are more attuned to whatever is right there, but the appendices, and there are over two hundred two hundred of them, trace major themes through the warp and the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible. And this appendix number 59 is about usury. Because usury is a theme that is of of evil that's woven throughout the bible. And so it's not like we're lost to know about it, but to give some parameters right in the very beginning.
Two things. If you understand these two things about usury, everything else falls in place more easily. And two fundamental things that control and understand. Number one, when a bank lends money, when it doesn't really lend it, it's giving money to somebody, they're not giving you other people's money, the people that have deposited money in the bank. They're giving you their money.
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Yep. Because never sir that has never circulated previously.
[00:57:38] Unknown:
Yeah. But their money or that the money is in the bank. When you put money in a bank, you're transferring title and ownership of that money to the bank. It's no longer yours. Under a contract, that they will obey your orders when you ask them to give money to somebody else through a check or there's a contract there, whatever it is. But they own the money, not you. You're and when they loan it, they're not lending it. They're transferring transferring title and ownership to whoever they give it to, and they call it a loan. It's not. And the proof of that, of course, is that they give it to people, money, under a contract to spend it for a specific thing, like to buy a house or to buy a car. So then you if you get that money from the bank, you transfer title and ownership Okay. To whoever you're buying the car from or the house.
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Brent, can I inject here and and Sure? Sure. Some dialogue? Because this is my understanding. That's the way that was when mister Smith goes to Washington. Right? Yeah. The old the old movie of all you Uh-huh. You take the people in the town's money, you lend it back out for mortgages. There were never thirty year mortgages. They, limited it to ten. And they and they service the paper. Well, that's not the way it works anymore. You created the money, if you will call it that, when you signed the promissory note.
You promise to pay so many payments and so much principal and so much interest for such a length of time. Then they take that. So that creates the income stream. You committed to it. So they take that contract back to the financial institution, and they put it on the liability side of the ledger, not the asset, the liability. Then they take it and discount it into the secondary market. And when they get the proceeds from that, they bring that back and put it on the asset side of the ledger to balance the books out. So technically, they don't lend money. There is no money. There's only credit.
Well, then you have oh, go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say this is this Tom Schoff. I don't know if you and I have ever even discussed this before. Where this where this came from. K? I used to stay up late night and listen to WWCR because that's the only place you could get this information. And, with the, well, it's there. And with the, I'm gonna memory peg WWCR. Paul, where are you, Paul? Can you come back and see? I do. Okay.
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Thank you. Hope you learned something out of that first hour anyway on WWCR because it's the only place you used to could find this information. And Yeah. Uh-huh. I was sitting on there. I used to listen to this one real late night show, and I was up till the middle of the night, two, three in the morning listening to this guy. And he had a guest on, and he was his name was Tom Schaff, and he was from Chicago. And he was a CPA who had somehow figured out how he could qualify to do expert forensic testimony, accounting testimony.
And so when he got in there, you know, to make the big bucks. Right? And so when he got in there doing that, he discovered that there was no institution in the country that accredited CPAs to become expert witnesses. So he started a school up there in Chicago, and he was training CPAs from all over the country. One of his students was a federal bank regulator. And he pulls Tom off to the side, and he says, every loan in America is a fraud. And the expert witness, CPA says, what are you talking about? And he says, let me show you what they're doing. This is it. They take the promissory note. That creates the paper. That's why they say, pieces of green Federal Reserve notes become monetized.
The only way they're monetized is when they fulfill a loan requirement. So it's it's Federal Reserve notes that have never been circulated that are in a warehouse, and the loan monetizes them. What does that mean? It attaches compound interest to them. So, that's what they do. They take the promissory note. They put it on the liability side. They discount it. They bring the proceeds back, and they pay the, whoever the business is. Now I found a while back, Brent, a really cogent quote here from none other than TJ Thomas Jefferson. And he understood this because his quote was no discounting of notes.
See, if you quit discounting the notes, it'd stop it right there, and it'd revert back to the way it used to be. But this is their little wrinkle and their whole deal. Well well, yeah, man. Everything's credit.
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We're teaching a class here, Roger. I'm I'm gonna record it, and I'll teach it here locally. And I hope to live stream it. I'm thinking about that too. And it's a class on, common law trust and gold. And the things you're talking about see, the simplicity of wealth, all all what you talked about, gymnastics, doublespeak, Nobody understands it because it's senseless, frankly. Fraud, it's sent it just it looks like it's important. I understand it. The experts understand it. There's nothing there, friends. It's just a lot of hooey. What Roger was talking about, that's what they say, but it's not true. Go ahead, Rogers. It's illusion. It's the solution these people create, and that's their great talent, Brent,
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is the the the world's greatest illusions. All the great all the great music magicians, Houdini, Copperfield, all of them are Jewish.
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Yeah. But if you I know. If you if anybody thinks they understood what Roger said, you're deceived because there isn't any understanding it. Roger kinda he knows what they say. He's got it in his wheelhouse. He can talk about it. But I like to focus on the simplicity of just a couple of things. Number one, a bank does not loan you, does not loan money. It gives it to you, and it transfers title and ownership. And, that's the important thing. And number two, usury, properly defined, will explain it. Our usury is the giving of one person or one entity to another, one person to another, of a consumable item of a consumable item with a surcharge.
Now if you say, oh, it's money given on interest. No. That's not it. You gotta say it right. It is a money given that is a consumable item under a contract to consume with the intention that it be consumed on with a surcharge on top. That's what it is. So if I loan you, if you go to the end of Hertz Rent a Car and and borrow a car, you're borrowing the car. They don't give you a title and ownership of the car. But when you take money from a bank, they're transferring title and ownership to you and using banking words like loan. That's a that's a lie. It's a lie from hell. It is. That's all it is. But when you borrow a car, they don't tell you, well, now you own the car or you buy borrow a power tool at a at a equipment lease place, you're actually they're loaning it to you. You bring it back. It's worthless for wear and tear. Therefore, they charge you a fee for doing that. That's lawful. That's not unbiblical.
But to give a consumable item, that's the number one thing. What's consumable? Well, fundamentally, the only thing that is consumable is money and food. And, Roger, I I think I told this maybe here. I don't remember. I'll tell it again. I first came into full contact with this and ended up then going to court over it in two cases, one in the appellate courts in the state of Washington and another one back home in a small rural county against a a local bank that was worth, of course, hundreds of millions. But when I first came into contact with this, I was in law school. And I like to go back when we law was on books, and it wasn't on the computer. You could read the cases in books, of course. Right. I would go to the go to the library, and I would sit and read the cases from the earliest days in America.
And I'm talking early days. I'm talking 1620 to 1650 Yikes. When the pure in Puritan, New England, the common law courts. And I read a case where the lieutenant governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony loaned 10 bushels of corn to a fella who needed it to get through the winter. He didn't have enough. He found out. He borrowed 10 or didn't borrow. He gave it to him. We we say it's a loan, but it really isn't. And he said, I'll loan it to you. I made a contract written out, but after harvest next year, you have to give me 12 bushels. So he it's a consumable item.
Food. He needed it. He was going to consume it. Both parties understood that. And what he gave him back in payment was not what he was so called what was so called loaned to him. He gave him back other corn, not that corn. See, if you borrow something, you get the same thing back. So what does, the banker and the user say, oh, we've got this stuff called a commodity and it's fungible. A bushel of corn next year is the same thing. It's the same thing as a bushel of corn last year. An ounce of gold here is the same thing of an ounce of gold there. An ounce of silver is is the same thing. If I give you this ounce of silver, that substitutes for that ounce of silver. It's they call it being fungible. That's a fancy word. They always use fancy words because nobody knows what they mean. But it sounds ostentatious and people say, oh, that's that's something the bankers understand. I'm gonna learn how to do that too. And all you're learning is fraud and they call it a commodity.
Oh, what's a commodity? It's well, if I have a and we used to do this at home. And by the way, grain is a good way to illustrate this. Yeah. We didn't have grain storage when I was a boy at home. We ended up building it later. It became popular. We could hold our grain and then sell it when the market got higher instead of taking it straight to the elevator right out of the field. I used to drive back and forth and back and forth with a tractor, pulling a wagon. Reason I did that, Roger, was I wasn't old enough to have a driver's license, and all the boys my age that were 12, 13, 14 were driving tractors, pulling flare flare wagons to town, full of grain.
Nobody stopped to ask us if we had a driver's license. Now if you drove a pickup truck, they might stop. Yeah. You know? But we'd do that. We'd drive to town. We'd wait in long lines. Roger, I remember waiting in line to unload our grain. All the farmers in harvest, didn't have any storage, and they were stuck with whatever the elevator would give them. And And they had no place to put it. They'd haul it to town and sell it. And I'd be in line along the side of the road there where the grain elevator was for an hour, hour and a half, longer even, waiting to unload my wagon.
And then they'd give you whatever they were paying that day, and you didn't have any bargaining power at all. Well, when men built bins. But before that, dad, he would sometimes have grain, and the guy in town, the elevator operator, he would he built great big bins. And he said, if you wanna store your grain, I can store it for a a decent price, and maybe we can get it you can get a better, a better, better price on it later. Yeah. Higher price. Well, if you put 5,000 bushels of corn or wheat in, in storage, when they sold it, they sold, 5,000 bushels that was all mingled together.
My dad's 5,000 bushels, you didn't know where it was anymore. It's what in law we call it commingling. A trustee, by the way, is not allowed to do that. That's a crime. Can be a crime. Commingling funds, you keep things separate. But with fungible items like grain, gold, money, you can commingle it. It's all the same, they say. Well, that's really not true. And some corn's better than others, frankly. But if, the market's paying x dollars a bushel, that that's just the way the that's the way you started. There by the way, Roger, if you go to the Internet, I wish I could interview this guy. He is a professor of economics, very conservative. And so he got a professorship job and he got his PhD at, at the Bob Jones University down in, South Carolina. Yeah. Or, you know, art conservative Baptist, you know, fundamentalist Baptist.
Well, and he got to saying things they didn't like. They finally got rid of him. But there was a time back in the seventies and eighties when he traveled around and lectured. And Roger, I heard about him because Pete Peters had him to his church at La Porte. What was his name? Don't remember. I need to find out. And I need to find out if he's alive and we need to interview him. But at any rate, what he does, he illustrates banking by using the analogy I just used of storing grain, commingling grain, storing it at the elevator. He carries it out in every detail and it's exactly the same. The principles are exactly the same.
But that those are the two things. Number one, when you borrow money, so called borrowing, it's not borrowing the money and the money. It doesn't belong to the people that put their money in the bank. It, the bank has title and ownership of the money and they, they give it to you and transfer title and ownership of the money. And secondly, usury has to do with, giving an item that is intended to be consumed. If it's not intended to be consumed, there's no usury. But let me say this. I haven't got to the article yet. I, well, things I'm saying are in the article, but that in the winterized version of the Bible, this is the way it starts out usury viper and scorpion sting Because the words, the one of the words, the most often used word for usury in the bible is a word that means to put vipers or scorpions on the neck and back of somebody.
That's what it means. And it's the word appears at the at the creation account and the creation of our grandma and grandpa Adam and Eve. And when the serpent came into the garden, Roger, he talked, it says, he talked to our grandma and he horn swaggled our poor grandma. She was innocent as the bible says in the new testament. She was innocent. Her husband wasn't. She really was fooled. And God doesn't hold her accountable like he holds Adam accountable because Adam went along with his wife, and that was the great crime because he knew exactly what he was doing. She didn't. And she, the Bible says in the New Testament, had less discernment than the male.
The male has more discernment according to the bible, according to the new testament, according to the old testament, than the female. But she was taken in by the user, by his smooth talk and his fraud. And the word that's used there for what the serpent did in the garden is the same word that's used throughout the law of God in the Old Testament for usury. I'm reading now from the from this appendix appendix 59, the winterized version of the bible, except as an act of warfare against declared enemies, God forbids usury as outright slavery to all mankind and all times. Usury in the bible and slavery are equated often because to the bible says, for example, in Proverbs, the borrower, which isn't that's a bad translation. He's not a borrower, as I said a while ago. He gets title and ownership for the money that the user gives to him. But it says that that man is slave to the lender.
That's point blank, the statement, but it's throughout the bible. And also so usury is slavery and has to do with the vipers and the scorpions sting. Indeed, the borrower is slave to the lender. I quoted here. Accordingly, God forbids usury to one's countrymen at all times. Enemies? Yeah. Usury is a tool of warfare, my friends, and it's being used on us in America. Has been used in the English speaking world since the time of Oliver Cromwell, Oliver Cromwell, it was used. It was just unlawful until Cromwell during the reformation. And, Gary had asked about that. How did it get into our into our country? Well, it came from England, but it wasn't in England until Cromwell in the sixteen hundreds.
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Before that Sorry about that, everyone.
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Oh. Oh. What? Yeah. My goodness gracious. Sorry about Cromwell, Brent. Sorry. Pleasure in word. We blame we blame you personally. Well, we don't I think you should. Well I think you should. I don't want you to I don't wanna hold that against you. If I did, I'd be like the Japs that hold the atomic bomb against me today. I don't wanna do that. But it is it is more devastating than than the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And in all of Europe, it was told at that time, the the the, scourge I had to find the right word, not plague. They use the word scourge of all mankind. Well, now that you're here, Paul, did you want to weigh in?
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There was just a little thought that runs from my head when you were talking about it as, a weapon of warfare. One of the aspects of it that I'm aware of is that when a a walled city or town or whatever was under siege Mhmm. The, the external army would go over there and have a chat with them at the gates. They say, look. If you open the gates, sir, we'll forgive all your debts. Woah. They use it they used to use it that way. They'd say, all the things that you owe, well, it's clean slate. Just come over to our side, really, not leave gates up because we're getting killed out here. So it's quite an interesting way of applying it. But, yeah, I Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm familiar with that. It really is a weapon of warfare. It's just applied to us during civilian, so called civilized life, which of course is anything but yeah. And when I say a weapon of warfare, I mean God
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in the Bible. The record of what he says, he tells his people, you can this is warfare you can use against your enemies, but you're not to use it against your countrymen. That's Mhmm. No. You don't do that. So I didn't mean it just a weapon of warfare of the evil empire. Oh, they use it. But God said for his people, it's a weapon of warfare. The borrowers slave to accordingly. God forbids usury to one's countrymen at all times. I'm still reading from this, appendix 59. Further, all pretended justification for allowing usury has proven destructive to freedom.
Deuteronomy chapter twenty three nineteen forbids usury of not only money, but also of any other kind of, consumable property. Jesus Christ condemned those practicing it and that's you can see in Matthew twenty-one 12 of course the cleansing of the temple when he put together the bullwhip as we say here in The States and drove them out that was all about usury. Magna Carta chapters ten and eleven outlaw usury. And you can see John also eleven fifteen and accompanying note discussing John's use that's accompanying note in the winterized translation of the Bible discussing John's use of the Greek word for usury and, and what we can unpack from that word.
Well, the Bible words for usury are significant. As Roger and I used to say when we first started coming together on this platform, this is the Tasmanian Word Association Hour. And we're if men lose their their the meanings of words, they lose their lives, their liberties, and their properties. And when it comes right down to it, friends, it's all about words. Yep. That's been our salvation with God's people. It's comes by words, and that's been our destruction that came through the devil. And as, I'm gonna quote a Jewish fella from England, and I'd be interested to know what you know about or think about him, Paul. His name was Disraeli.
I don't know how he became prime minister, but he's the one that said God governs with words. And is it any any any, mystery that the one the creatures that are made out of his imagination, out of God's imagination, of his mind in his image, also govern with words. We do govern with words, friends. And it is the words of God that we are to govern with as much as we can possibly do it. So let's look at this. Oh, by the way, Disraeli, I mentioned him. Do you wanna make a comment about that, Paul?
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I was just thinking that I I can't prove any of this, but I suspect he got in because he had quite a bit of help from his banking friends. Yeah. Not at all. And, also, you know, that's what I would imagine. Also, there was that thing, he wrote that novel, didn't he? What is it? Coningsby, which, there's a line in that. I've forgotten the name of the lead character in it, but it's kind of a thinly veiled pastiche of, of Lord Rothschild at the time. What's his name? Anyways, a wheeler and dealer in London, and this was in a novel that Disraeli wrote. And one of the things that this character says at some sort of soiree or whatever is that the world is governed by persons other than those that everybody's aware of. I just completely mangled that up. But, basically, that's what he the world is not governed by the people you think it's governed by. It's governed by others.
The deep state, in other words. He was Yeah. Yeah. He's always been with us. I think he's always been with us. They didn't call it the deep state back then Uh-huh. Whatever they called it. But, yeah, it's always been there. The the the real super wordsmiths of a particularly dark hue.
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So Was it was it Montague Norman that said bankers run the world, and if you take the power of the pen away from them, they will they will recreate it again or something to that effect?
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Yeah. That was, sir sir Josiah Stamp who, became the governor of the Bank of England. Yeah. He he whenever they retire, they always spill their guts and start telling the truth. Whilst they're in the system, you can't get a word out of them. Yeah. But once they're sort of free of it or were back then, then they'll tell you, oh, this is a terrible system. You know? You really don't want this. You've just been managing it over us for the last thirty five years. Thank you very much. You know? Yeah. But, yeah, they do. They they nearly always confess.
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I'd bet you guys haven't heard either one of you. I'm gonna take us just a little sidebar for a second. The what they found, they found a guy in the airport that was a former FBI in investigator back in the early two thousands. And he was the guy that did all the investigations of talking to all the witnesses that were first uncovered in the Jerry Epstein first round in South Florida. And and he quit the FBI's contractor with him now and a bunch of other stuff, but he came out and said, well, there were rapes on the planes, and that what they're hiding is that Bill Clinton was involved in that. And he said Trump was never in a plane with any like that. They were flying from New York to Palm Beach because his plane was in the shop or something.
But that came out. Well, man, when that hit, now the justice department is coming. Oh, this guy has never been associated with this. He was a minor. This or that or the other. So, and and it was a conversation, Brent, in an airport. Somebody got he shot had a big, a bag with a big FBI thing on it they showed, and it just came up. And here's a guy spilling his guts on all this in some airport. Mhmm. Never believing that what he's saying is gonna get,
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James O'Keefe, you know, which is who broke this, by the way. But only the people that have ears to hear will hear it and pay attention. And that's usually the the remnant. Well, it is. It's the minority. The ones whose minds are enlightened to the truth and We're truth seekers. Well, yeah. The first word the first word in the Bible used to signify usury is nasak. And that's the one that's used in the creation account in Genesis. And it signifies by the letters, it's a Hebrew word, money with a viper stinging bite and crippling effect. A giving of food or money, see those are the two consumable items that cover most usury, food or money for consumption, Transferring ownership of legal title such as money given on a surcharge that is the worth of the what is given to be paid back with an additional fee.
The bite of usury exacting interest on a consumable money. The word also describes the money changers practice of collecting a fee for exchanging one current currency for another. Again, likening to the stinging strike of a viper snake. Right. The second Hebrew word translated usury is tervath. Now these are the two most prominent ones. Stressing multiplication, that is contracted a guaranteed surcharge in addition to money invested. Let me stop right there and make a comment about synonyms. We, most of us, have an idea what a synonym is, but I like to be a little more precise and say, well, a synonym is a a word or let's say two synonyms or words that refer to signify the same thing, but stress a different aspect of the same thing.
So when I'm talking about these words, I'm talking about words that signify usury but stress a different aspect of usury. This one stresses the multiplication of usury, a contract and surcharge in addition to money invested, return on investment principle increase of unjust gain. The Hebrew word is not used here to denote common law partnership investments, for example, losses. If you enter a common law partnership, a lot of people are in common law, what we call a common law partnership, without any formal agreement in writing or even verbally. And they just know they they go into business together, and they they're gonna share profits and losses, to any degree, but usually it's fifty fifty.
Well, that's a common law partnership, and it can be very dangerous if there's ever a problem. You go to court, because a partnership is a mutual agency. I'm your agent with authority to bind you in contract, and you are my agent with authority to bind me in contract. And that, friends, is dangerous. That's why people say be careful not to do that. Yeah. But but there's nothing wrong with a partnership legally. And if you enter into one, you're sharing profits and losses. Remember, the bank sews it up so they don't when they give money to somebody called a loan, you're hawked up three times what it's worth usually. You have to prove that you don't need the loan just to get it. That's really what happens.
Well, you can sell something if you need the need the money to have the money you want. Well, let me stop right there and ask Roger or Paul if they have more comments. I know you both looked into this matter pretty lightly.
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Well, I think the whole thing with loans we were talking about something, yesterday. I don't know if Paul's mentioned it on the show. I came across this article earlier in the week, September 23, called How the World Was Saved When They Tried to Crash It in 02/2008. Mhmm. And it's an astonishing tale. It it really is astonishing, and it taps into all of the, linguistic and financial skullduggery that you would imagine. Mhmm. And it's to do with where the money comes from in the loans. And I've described it that I mean, there's all sorts of ways of describing it. One of the descriptions is that when you put your signature to that paper, you are the one that's generating the money. That's true. It's just that in the moment, you don't believe that you are because Yep. The bank manager sat there with his pocket watch and everything, and they've got everything ticking on. He's got all these lovely paper, and it's all great. And you go, well, he's obviously in charge, but, actually, he isn't. Without your signature, they can't do it. And one of the things that's in this story is about, do you have a thing called a trust deposit account? You've probably heard about this sort of stuff. I have for years. Mhmm. What this article says is that you do, if the article is correct. Because what occurred was, the guy that's been interviewed goes under the handle of ex marine, I think, just to protect his identity. This is only about a week old, something like that.
And he's talking about, his partner called Claude, and they started to issue bonds. They got standing. Mhmm. Another one of those words, right, that we don't that I don't fully understand. I mean, I real I look at all these different words, this array of words, and I'm going It generally is only a it's generally only applicable in America. That's what I've heard Barnes say, just to let you know, standing.
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You've got some, some stake of the game where you can go into court. But, basically, it's all shut up. You know? No. No. It's,
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I think it may apply here as well if this article is anything to go by because the two systems of The US and the dung hole where I live in are intertwined, as you would imagine, right at the very roots. They're the same sort of, you know, appalling thing. Mhmm. And, so you remember in 02/2008, long term capital management was flushing the whole economy down the toilet or whatever. Everybody was kind of leveraged, there's that other word, up to the nines with all these subprime mortgages. Yeah. What ticket wasn't necessarily subprime. They had gone the wrong way on Russian bonds.
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Mhmm. That was what was again, that's when everybody was called up to Connecticut for the weekend to try and save the financial system, basically. May have been some subprime. That was around the same time, but I I've heard specifically it was they'd gone the wrong bet on Russian bonds for whatever that's worth.
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Well, I mean, I'm skipping around on this article, Roger, because it it really would need to be read out. The interview is about twenty five minutes long, and we can't do that here. But, for example, you've got the debt clock that's running wherever it's running. It says $37,000,000,000,000. Right? Mhmm. But that's not money. That's currency. And it's to do with this over yet again, why have we got two words for we think or the layman thinks is the same thing? Well, they're not the same thing. Mhmm. And I'm confronting my sort of level of stupidity once more. It's a never ending process, isn't it? It never ends. Yeah. After stupidity, it's just that you've been lied to and these things have been covered up from us. Mhmm. Well, you get to a point you get you get a breakthrough. You go, wow. That's it. And then five years go by, you go, oh, that actually wasn't it. This this more skullduggery to go. And it never seems to end because, you know, they've got a lot of money to to pay for further further documents and all this kind of stuff. But that debt clock, the 37,000,000,000,000, is not money that's owed to to, by you.
It's it's currency that's owed to you.
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Correct?
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So all of these debts in the world that nations apparently have that we, communicated the economies in a terrible way, all this kind of stuff, it's a complete bogus Yep. Sort of film over the real substance of the whole thing. Illusion. It's an illusion. It is. It's a very good one, though. It might as well be real. It's that strong, if you know what I mean. I I agree with you. Yeah. It is because you you dig into it. But, in 02/2008, what happened was there was a press conference where Henry Paulson and George w Bush, who was your president at the time Mhmm. When this thing was tanking, they said, oh Yep. We found $3,000,000,000,000 that we didn't know we had. Yeah. This is true.
What this article is about is where that $3,000,000,000,000 came from. And it came from this guy, Claude, in Los Angeles and his two sons using a Brother printer. You remember Brother printers? Those little yeah? He literally printed out 300 bonds at $10,000,000,000 each, and they filed them with the Treasury, and they were accepted. They went in. And that was the $3,000,000,000,000 that basically saved, I would suggest, the whole world from going into breadline despondency because it would have happened. It would have absolutely tanked everywhere. The ripple effect, the domino effect would have been unbelievable. Mhmm. So and and the reason they were able to do it is that they discovered, that what it says here, going forward, he and his study partner both learned how to revoke this is in your bailiwick, Roger, how to revoke legal title from The US attorney general. I guess that's what USAG means, right? Yes. Operating as common law trustee and to get themselves and other parties standing to access their Treasury direct accounts that are defined in 31 c f r three six three point six, whatever that might be. Okay?
In other words, there is this colossal trust and you actually what they're also saying is you only actually have one bank account. Everybody only has one, which is this thing that's held at the TreasuryDirect account, but you have been misled to believe that that it they're in charge of it. It's like the administration team with their fine suits and everything are stood in front of you, basically dealing with your resources. Mhmm. It's an astonishing tale. I mean, there was even a printout of the the sheet of paper where they just wrote 300 lines at $10,000,000,000, and, they on the day they went to they went up to the Treasury Office, and they met a guy. I'm just trying to find it in the article here because it's a really interesting exchange, where Reginald Gardner, a chap called Reginald Gardner.
And one of the male clerks asked them, anything else, gentlemen, when they went to file these papers in 02/2008? Mhmm. And that man was Reginald Gardner, who knew a lot about what was going on. I'm just reading out this section. Because he was responsible for sorting which mail went to which department at the Treasury. Claude showed him his file folder, and ex marine describes the scene. This is really funny. Reginald Gardiner, you can see the eyes about to pop out of his head. And he looks at Claude, and he looks at me, and he looks at the paper, and he looks at Claude, and he looks at me, and looks at the paper, and his jaw drops. And he goes, who are you guys? And I go, well, I'm counsel and this is my client for he is two sons that made the deposits, these bonds.
And we were showing him the documents. Right? I didn't say anything at the time about $3,000,000,000,000. I said, for the deposits for these bonds. And he goes, you guys made these deposits? And we and we said, yeah. And he says, that's what's paying our bills right now.
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Just a piece of paper.
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Uh-huh. So it it it opens up a whole layer of something else, I think. I mean, whenever I've heard people discuss this, people get very excited. I've I've had this going on for years over here. They talk about this SKV trust that was from 1666 and all these other things. They do you know that there's a trust and you've just got millions of pounds in it and you can have it and all that stuff? And I'm going, woah. Woah. I don't even want millions of pounds. It's you know, everybody thinks, well, if I just get millions of pounds, everything's gonna be great. No. You're not. Everybody's gonna have millions of pounds. Their problems are only beginning. They're only beginning. You don't need more of this crappy money. We don't want it at all. This is the problem. It's not that you wanna make money. It's that you wanna make money honest again. And, so it's a wonderful it's a wonderful account. I'll try I think Paul's actually put it on in a PDF. Well, I know he has because I'm reading it right now. Mhmm. And it's definitely worth your while going through it, Roger. I think you'll find it extremely interesting.
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I I'll my question has been around for a while. Is has anybody successfully drawn off this account where they can go pay their bills and stuff? Because that seems to be everybody's, goal.
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Yeah. When nobody's come forward I've never seen any proof of it. Just No. No. Well, this story is basically that it helped the world's economy together. So you could say because they were being honorable, decent US, what, citizens, nationals, whatever they were Mhmm. And they said, hey. We've got this trust deposit account, and our country's, going up, you know, a very bad place without swearing and without a paddle, and, we're gonna we're gonna bail it out. So they they bailed it out because they were able to get standing, because they understood the paperwork with things like CUSIP numbers and all this other junk that they've created. Yeah. Yeah. All of this
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stuff. That's what this story is all about. Well, evidently, what the CUSIP number is, from my understanding, is it's the number they put at the bottom of a birth certificate. And that somehow when they take the birth certificate and use it as a warehouse receipt to attach it to bond issues, that it's that CUSIP number that traces so the payment on the coupon gets to the right person that owns it. And these bonds, of course, can be transferred internationally and are every day. Okay? I mean, they trade debt every day. And so, anyway, that's my and my feeling is if, and I know this big if, You could ever get control down in the bowels of the basement of the treasury, and we could start figuring out what numbers go to what bonds.
You seems to me that you could trace it out and see who the recipient of that payment would be, and then you make a decision. Well, if they're crooked and involved in this, we don't pay their payments. And if it's mom and pop down on the corner that did some bond investing, we'll pay them. So you got a way to differentiate. I know that's way out in left field, will probably never happen, but I think about things like that.
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Well, I do too, really. I I might be useful. You know, Brent mentioned getting someone on for an interview. This guy who's going under the handle of ex marine, this is only a week or so ago. Mhmm. He's the guy to interview. I wanna talk to him. Well, there's a contradiction
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right there because you're never an ex marine.
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Well, that's just I know. But that's just the handle he used to protect his protect his ID. You know? And, there's another really funny bit here, and I won't read any more from it. This is really rather amusing. Right? The they did a trial run-in 2006 with $60,000,000,000 worth of bonds to bail out some African Development Fund or something. So he says this, the ex marine got an entry of default with the local US attorney claiming that he had not served the attorney, the attorney general correctly. He tried to file some motions to reconsider, but he didn't have enough legal expertise to continue. The complaint was never answered, and there were also no objections to any of the pleadings that are still on file in Phoenix. The case has been sealed ever since. This is about 02/2006.
However, his his study partner in Los Angeles, Claude, actually got a hearing. And at the hearing, the judge told Claude, mister so and so, I have to dismiss your case because I can't see you. Claude replied, well your honor I'm standing right here in front of you, he's not looking at you. The judge left and he said, well mister so and so I understand that and I'm empathetic to your case but because of what you did legally I can't see you anymore. You see, when you revoke legal title from the USAG and the United States District Court system, they no longer have jurisdiction to see you anymore because there is no more entity or trust under legislative jurisdiction for the executive branch to see you anymore. In other words, Claude was given standing by the LA federal judge. This is kind of still confusing to me, but I just thought I'd read that probably less confusing to you guys.
But it's a it's a fascinating thing and very funny as well. I love the idea that you're certain I can't actually see you because I don't have any jurisdiction anymore. You you've just left the system. That's what jurisdiction should be. I I don't have any authority on you. I can't see you. You know? Well, if I were to sum up what
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Paul said, there's different ways you can sum it up. One of the ways I'd sum it up that caught my ear was honest money. Everything and he also used the idea of double speak, words that mean what you don't think they mean, or you think they mean this and they mean that. And it's that's what it all is. I've said a while ago, they call it a loan. It's not a loan. They're just giving it to you, title and possessions. You own it, when you take money out that the bank says they're loaning to you. And on this double speak point, I had the opportunity to go into I'm just giving testimony, what happened to me and what I learned when it happened. I went into appellate court in the state of Washington to argue against a massive international bank.
Well, they had stolen $300,000 from my friend, and I learned a lot. I went into the case hoping I would learn a lot. I did. That's where I really came to grips with some of these things. But even more than that, I had a fellow come to me that he said a local bank that would banks are large. You gotta be capitalized in the millions to be a bank, and this bank was, and it was a state bank. And he said they stole my money, and, I ended up I just told him I don't know beans from sour apple butter about banking. Why are you asking me? All I know is all I know is, he who takes what isn't isn't shall pay the price or go to prison.
I learned that when I was a boy in Sunday school. I think that was something they substituted for the one of the 10 commandments, thou shalt not steal. And he kept pressing me and pressing me and pressing me. He went to other lawyers, and other lawyers said, I'm not gonna do that. And they said, I'll ruin my reputation. Well, they'll come out. I didn't care about that time. They'd already ruined my reputation, and they'd already come after me. And I couldn't go in court in front of a jury because they went to the newspapers back then and just made me look like I was, son of the devil himself. You know?
So I took the case finally on the basis of thou shall not steal. I said stealing's against the law. They stole your money and your property. Let's see if we can do something. Well, I didn't feel like I could win the case, and other lawyers told me you're not gonna win this case. My professor in law school told me, said, dude, they go up against the bank. You're not gonna win probably. Them and insurance companies, by the way, that's all usury. Well, I did it, and I said, I'm gonna use this as an opportunity to learn what I can about banking.
And so I put two of the bank, vice presidents on the stand, and I had them under cross examination. And, of course, when you're doing cross examination, really, cross examination primarily is a speech by the cross examiner. The the answers to the questions don't matter as much as people think they do. You're talking to the jury, and you're making a speech in the form of questions. And, but I thought also that I would use it to, just find out what I could. You can ask any kind of question you want on cross examination, leading questions, non leading questions. There are limits, but there were there are sometimes you can ask a question that will have its effect even if it's objected to. You just wanna get it out there. You know? Well, I cross examined each of these over six hours. And the cross examination, I don't know what it's like in the old country where Paul lives, but here, you can go on about as long as you want.
That's not an exaggeration. Well, six hours long enough. Of course, the idea of that is at some point, you can wear wear the guy down. He just gets tired, and he may say something he wished he hadn't. That's the important thing about cross examination too. It's our it's the only form of torture that we allow in our common law tradition. I say that our our common law tradition our common law tradition has never it was never it's never been lawful. It's happened. It happens in America on various levels, but that's inquisitive. That's the inquisitorial system of the of the law of the city. That's not our common law. Our common law of the land is not inquisitorial.
It's fundamental fundamentally adversarial. We go to we have battle it's battle by battle by trial before the jury instead of trial by battle, which has been a part of our common law tradition too. Somebody gave me a movie recently that's worth watching. And I a famous actor in it. I don't remember his name. I just recognize him. But it was about my I I wanna recommend this to people because it's a pretty good movie. It's about the Norman culture in France. Of course, the Normans were from France. They conquered France France. They were Norwegians.
They conquered France. And then in October, they invaded England. And that's had an impact upon us, in our common law tradition. But, the movie takes place in France, and it's all about trial by battle. That's what the whole movie is about. It's a recent movie. I forget the name of it, doggone it. Now I need to watch it again because it's historically accurate about Please get that title of that and bring it to us. I'd love to watch that myself. Oh, I I want to. I'll tell you. Here's the star of the movie. Now it's coming to me how I can find it. The star of the movie was the the young actor that was in the Bourne Identity movies.
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Matt Damon.
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Matt Damon. That's yeah. He was the one that starred in this movie, and it was his wife that's claiming that Matt's best friend they were a couple of nights. Matt's best friend raped his wife. And, of course, his wife had to make the accusation, and he he had to back her up, and she had to back him up. And then she was in the dock, as they say in the old country. And if if, he lost the battle, she would be executed for bringing false testimony. And what it was, of course, trial trial by battle in in the old country and in this country too. But it was and it was here too. But it's, a final appeal to God.
The course of last duel Pardon?
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It is. Was it the last duel?
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I think it could have been. Yeah. That sounds right. Or duel, as we say here in England. Dual. Oh. Now there's another French word. Right? That's a French word from
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some of the people. Just think I had to play the role of the snotty Englishman. Oh,
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gosh. Dual. We kinda like it when we do that. And it it just uses it. We don't I don't think it makes us mad to me. I I've I've been cataloging words as you're talking, Paul. And you like, here's one you used. No. If I can remember it. Oh, skullduggery. Now I've heard that word, and it is used here in The States, but it's not used, in The States like it's used in the old country. You use it often there. It has a meaning that's that's important in our culture. It should be used more often. Synonymous
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to chicanery?
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Synonymous. Synonymous.
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Yeah. Synonymous. That's easy for you to say.
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It is. Synonymous. Well,
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anyway, it's I recommend the movie to learn about what, historically accurate. I'm sure what like, they say whatever comes out of well, they used to say, and I say, whatever comes out of Hollywood is no good. In other words, there's enough lies in it that will get you off the rails if you buy them.
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But You know, Steven Spielberg said in an interview with the Dallas Yeah. Newspaper Uh-huh. The most power world's most powerful, weapon is celluloid.
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Oh, yeah. No. I get it because it's fundamentally idolatry. Moving moving idolatry. Movies the movies as they used to call them. Well Yeah. I forgot where I was going with that discussion. I wanted to oh, I made mention of, it oh, here's what I learned on the cross examination of those of those guys. I just said shucks, so I doubt that the judge will go with me. I'm gonna go just do what I can. So I dug into it. Here's what happened. I discovered that the bank uses two books. One book is for one set of books is for public consumption, and the other set of books is for the bank. Now here's the craziness of it, and it's this crazy and stupid.
They had said that my client they had they had said, we'll serve as trustee, take over your accounts, make sure that your debts are paid, and that when it's over, you'll have a million dollars to start over again. Well, they didn't do that. Instead, they induced him into allowing them to be, in a fiduciary position instead of contract position. And they were his fiduciaries. They took over his accounts, and then they did not make the payments that he owed to them. Oh. And on the basis of that, they foreclosed it on him. That's the that's the the simplicity of the stupidity.
And we said or I said to them, well, if that's true, how was my client to know that you're supposed to make those payments? Well, we have it's on the books. We have it. And we have a set of books. Then I ask them quite well on what books? You have another set of books. Yes. Well, but my client doesn't get to see those books. Right? Correct. The only the banker sees those books. Correct. And those banks said that he was in arrears on his payments. Correct. But you didn't tell him that. Correct. On and on we went like that. Yeah. And of course they were just telling the truth. And what amazed me even further, if you don't have eyes to see this, you're not going to, you may even be able to see it, but you won't accept it. And the judge didn't. He did not accept it. And I proved my point. My point in the case was I wanted to prove that the relationship in our common law tradition, it's all about relationship.
Everything in our common law tradition is calculated to preserve lawful relationships. Everything from marriage relationships to contract relationships to fiduciary relationships, as they say in the Wabash Valley, between a trustor and a or a trust trustee and a beneficiary in a common law trust. And my argument was when you induced my client from into a common law trust relationship, that took you out of a contract and put you into trust relationship. Contract is arm link arm's length. Trust relationship is fiduciary. The trustee, is bound by the highest of law in our common law tradition to act only in the benefit of the beneficiary, as the Bible says, of the Messiah, even to his own hurt.
When Jesus Christ promised and to enter Godhead enter Godhead covenant, a trust settlement, he said my part of this is to be trustee and to and to act only in the benefit of my people as it says in Isaiah, even to my own hurt. Well, he did it to the point of cruel torture and death to fulfill the the terms of the trusteeship. Well, the bank did that. They they hornswoggled him into into, the fiduciary relationship returning over his property to them, and now they're responsible. But then they used that against him instead of for him. And that was what I was trying to do. I thought I got a shot at it, but it didn't happen that way. Got, bank banks don't want to deal in trust relations. They want their relationship with you to be arm's length. Arm's length. That means I look out for me and you look out for you.
Caveat impator. That's the old Latin phrase that means buyer beware. You look out for yourself. You went into this with your eyes wide open. If you didn't do anything about it, you will suffer because the contract says and, you knew you if you didn't know, you should've known. That's banks. And that's why by the way, you put your money in a bank. It's no longer your money as as we said a while ago. Therefore, if the bank goes belly up or they breach they're not breaching any fiduciary relationship. They're breaching a contract. And the only action you have against them is an action at contract law, and they'll probably win. That's why I was trying to move this this judge to say, oh, this is fiduciary.
We're in trust law now. They don't want that. See? They can't handle that. They would lose lose lose Uh-huh. If it was in a trust relationship. And,
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that's what's happening there. Well, after all that talk, Roger or Paul, you got more comments? That's so interesting. Paul, what's your observations? Thanks for dropping by, by the way. I I know this is one of your
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keen areas of interest too. Well, as a matter of fact, let me intro let let me introduce this if Paul doesn't. Paul got really interested according to his testimony to me, really interested in the things he's interested in now because of what happened to him at the hands of the banks. Yes. Now if that's not true, Paul, tell us. But if it is No. That's true. No. That's true. Like my client. Right? I mean, in that way, it was a bank. Yeah. I don't know what the details of what happened, but I I do know you told me that once.
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Yeah. It it's just yeah. It's a long tale. I've said it loads. It's okay. It's not particularly. It's just my tale. Other people have got other really interesting tales of how they've sort of been brought into this. When you were talking about Isaiah, though, just then Mhmm. Mhmm. I haven't mentioned this before. I've got a book on my shelf here by Michael Hudson, The US economist. He's still alive. He's a he's an Australian, isn't he, or something? He's very good. He's brilliant. This this book, I think you'd like it quite a bit, Brent, actually. It's called And Forgive Them Their Debts. Oh.
Not and forgive them their sins. And the cover picture is, of course, the best picture ever, one of the best days ever with Christ laying into the money changers with a whip. You know? Mhmm. And what one of the things he talks about in the early pages is what happened sort of after that. A few days, I don't know exactly when you could correct me. Mhmm. He's basically, I'll say, chased or pressed or taken into by a crowd into a synagogue. Mhmm. Which was an Israelite thing, not a Jewish thing. I can't put that in. That's it's an old word before they sort of acquired all this terminology from us. And, he reads I can't remember which chapter it is. He reads from Isaiah. And the main bit in it multiple times in this sort of these few verses is about the day of the Lord, that phrase, the day of the Lord. Mhmm. And what Hudson's saying, what is this day of the Lord? What does it mean? Because, you know, when I was younger, you just think, oh, yeah. Well, it's the day of happiness or, you know, God's coming back and it's just great, you know, and all that kind of stuff. Very vague, but really a a positive vagueness.
Yeah. Hudson says that's not what it means. Mhmm. What it means is the day of the Lord is the day of jubilee of the forgiveness of all debts. Uh-huh. And it chain and I'm going, oh, I love this. So as a book, for me, it bridged the world of the skullduggery from the financial from the Babylonian merchant class Mhmm. Into the correction. I'm now looking at Christ as like, you know, in so many there's so many aspects to his life, of course, but this one wasn't as prominent. It wasn't even present at all in my thinking. And you may recall that he's talking to this crowd and they get quite cross with him. No. In fact, they get they get really quite angry with him and they try to throw him off a cliff. And whenever I'm talking they do, don't they? And and whenever I'm talking to people, oh, Jesus loves everyone. I'm going, I don't have you actually read this? I don't think you've read this. I said, you ought to read this. I said, have you ever whipped bankers? I haven't. Right? You wanna I'd give that a go. Let's do it. I don't think you like them.
Right? So let's all have a day. We should have a day here. We get down the city of London, take a whip, and let go of it. I I said, then you'll know what he went through. But Uh-huh. Yeah. They try why did they try to push him off a cliff? Because according to Hudson, and this makes complete sense Mhmm. The people in the congregation at that time were the creditor class. They were all owed money. They didn't want him talking about the day of jubilee and the forgiveness of all debts because they built their insidious opposition within the whole of the people at the time by being the people to whom all the money was owed.
Mhmm. And this pattern repeats throughout history. It's what it did for Caesar. Mhmm. Caesar was stabbed by those 50 guys because they were from the creditor class. Uh-huh. He was gonna wipe out all the debts, so they had to kill him. So it's it's fascinating that there are people that know, they've tried to do things, and the creditor class goes berserk. It literally becomes murderous, absolutely murderous. Mhmm. And that element is still in that culture to this day, and you hear it in their language and their words. It's demonstrated by their attitude, by a complete indifference to the welfare of other men and women. I was gonna say fellow man, but they're not. They don't even think of it like that. They view themselves as entirely distinct from us Yep. And they do view us as cattle. This culture is built up there, and they just operate on the basis of this is some stuff that I own. It might be a human being, but I don't really give a crap about that. And, we're gonna have our way with it, and that's what we're gonna do. And they're too stupid anyway to find out and, you know, and they're right up to a point. We are.
But that's because, you know, I would suggest that we're trying to be honorable in our hearts, which is the best thing you can ever do, to be honest. Overseen by, as the protocol say, our principled
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men?
[01:57:16] Unknown:
Yes. The principled men. Those those men. So, and and we've got the thing situation now where we're in this article from with this ex marine guy talks about we're we're currently under Basel two or Baal two, you know. Mhmm. And we're about to go to Bahl 3. Don't ask me what that means. It's just it's more July 1.
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But Okay. Bay if you're talking about basil three from the, Bank of International Settlements, it's it was proposed back in the teens, but it kicked in July 1.
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Mhmm. Yep. And it's just it's just more cover for the same scam. I'm not interested in Basel one, two, three, or anything. I don't know if Well on one level, I have to care because it's invaded our lives, and it's literally an enemy that's actually wiping everything out. Mhmm. But the you know, as you were saying earlier, the whole idea that we cannot understand what they say, my thing is like you I would say, no, you can't use words like that. We don't know what you're talking about. If you come in and talk like that again, you're going to prison. You got to talk plain. Mhmm. I would I'd make them not talk like that. So you can't express this like this because you're intentionally being making yourself unintelligible and not understandable to the layman. And if you can't do that, you can't operate your business.
Mhmm. It's I want to sort of I mean I'm being silly but why? How are they able to abuse this language? Well obviously it's because there's such a coterie of other beneficiaries from their evil ways Yep. That the whole system comes around and protects them and says, oh, no. And we'll send a policeman out and we'll do this and then you'll get a court summons, whatever that is. And you'll get another piece of paper and we'll just bombard you with paper and we'll psychologically harry you, and worry you and ruin and mess around with your life. That's what rats are related. In the hazard circulars,
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they will be so attached to the system that they will not betray it for because it's their own self interest. I butchered that, but that's basically No. It's absolutely spot on. I think I liked your butchery because it's clear and simple. That's exactly it.
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And,
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yep. Well, we're gonna cut out of our regular show. You're, welcome to sit around. We may today may be one of those good after show days. We hadn't heard a peep out of the audience except for Joan. And, people may have questions or comments. We've covered we've plowed a lot of ground today, actually. I wanted to go into just a bit, Paul. I think you do, but make sure you do. It's important of what Basel three is and why it's so important to them. Have you been, exposed to that?
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No. Enlighten me.
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Well, alright. We're gonna hear the whistler here. I'm gonna go ahead and go, and we'll just talk over it. We'll titillate the audience. Basel three, it was even commented on by a retired guy head of the BIS, a Dutch guy, back in the eighties. And he said, well, we've seen this coming. That was what the problem is, this big debt bubble and, for years. You know? And so what they did was they passed Basel three in, I think, the to middle of the teens of this century. And with the main part of it, and it just kicked in in July, the main part of it is the way banks put their assets on the balance sheet.
And for the whole time, since the BIS's initiation in the thirties, gold has been a 50%. There's three tiers, one, two, and three. The tier one is the most liquid of assets, cash, bonds, stocks, etcetera, and they carry a 100% of the value of that tier to the balance sheet. The next tier two is a 75% carry. I don't know what the components were regardless. Tier three where they had goals since the inception of the BIS was 50%. That's why banks never owned gold. They only got to carry 50% of the stated value market value over the balance sheet. Well, as of July 1, gold are 100% asset. That's why banks have been buying it hand over fist for years. And what they're going to do and the plan is, of course, when this when this, whatever we're facing goes, they will revalue gold, and it will retain the value for the bank. And the paper will become worthless, and they'll give you shares of the worthless bank as your deposits back.
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That sounds great. I can't wait.
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So that's the way they value gold. Now notice in all this back talk in the financial industry, you don't hear them too much talking about buying Bitcoin. They're buying gold. K? For whatever that's worth, that's Basel three, and that's its importance.
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Yeah. Aristotle said a thing. What did he say about money? He said, there's nothing wrong with fiat money just so long as we get godlike intelligence for kings, which basically means there's everything wrong with it because you're not gonna get there. You're not gonna get there. That's a brilliant statement.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, the day of the Lord, we may get it. We get it, but not now. That's that's that's the point, and I agree. And that's why we say we're not governments. We're not to be governments of men, but governments of law. And the the imperious breath of men will always gravitate to fraud. You open it up to people like that, they're gonna they're gonna take advantage of it. And, who who was it? It was another Brit. He said, he who never quotes has never quoted. That was a Brit too. But, he this fella said, we will never oh, this is Maitland. Maitland.
We will never understand, we'll never understand history until we understand Babylon. For all of us became sophisticated. And I'm not an expert on anything, but I like to just kinda reach out and try to pull together a whole lot of stuff. And, I'm beginning as I get older, I see the picture bigger and better and know what I'm up against and what I should do in the meantime. And I still say it doesn't take majority. That's not our common law tradition. It's not a it's not a majority principle. It's a critical mass. When Noah went into the ark, he was in the minority.
But when he came out, he was in the majority. And that's what that's our hope as God's remnant that we do that. So let's relax, friend, and don't get discouraged over all this talk. See, we do a lot of talking about how ugly and awful it all is, and it is, and how dangerous. And we sometimes are are tempted to say what can a one man do or what can I do or what can we do against such evil? You can't fathom. The more I the older I get, the the deeper and the deeper and the more ugly it becomes bad to the bone.
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I I start yes I started yesterday's show, Brent, with Revelation 18. Mhmm. And and the fact comes in there and says, come out of her, my people. Come out of her. You're the Bible expert much more so than myself. Do you think see things like that repeated in the Bible very often?
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What come out of her? My people come out of her. Oh, she's the that's the theme woven throughout the warp of the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible. That's what the Exodus out of Egypt is not only reality, but symbolic of Yes. And becomes, a lesson to us. And then we see Abraham, what did he do? He came out of Ur. He got out. He just got the devil out and started walking. Didn't even know where he was going, but he knew he had to get out. And who got out of Sodom and saved his his own life, but he was weak and he lost his wife and his children and his extended family that was Lot. He said, get out of this city, the God himself in human form, the Lord Jesus Christ pre incarnate. The angel as the Bible, the angel of the Lord of Yahuah said, get out. And so he packed up. He got out finally, but they had to press him really hard because they were making fun of him, his whole his own family, his own family.
And Jesus Christ repeats that principle too in the tenth chapter of Matthew. Your own family will come against you. Relax, friends. Don't fight it. Just relax and do the next right thing. That's the answer here. What is the next right thing? You think you know? Bury your head in the book, and you'll learn more about what the right thing is. And it will be, in a lot of cases, if not most, contrary to what you have thought. That's important to understand. And then when you see it, you'll say, oh, yeah. I see that is right, though. You'll see it's right. But what you see is right, you're marching to the beat of a different drummer. And what you see is right, though, the mass of the world won't see it that way. We're not we're not looking for majority principle.
Christian culture, that's what I'm looking for, like John Wycliffe did. By the way, John Wycliffe is, the model that I follow. John Wycliffe, that's the model I follow. He had two things on his mind. He's known for being the first man to translate the Bible into English. The first man to translate the Bible into English, but he didn't have the religion original manuscript. See, he did that before the fall of Constantinople when those manuscripts leaked out and it wound up in Europe. And within two years, New Testament Greek was being taught at the University of Orleans in or in France. And then that be people began to learn it. And that was the mass that was struck in the dry timber that started the reformation that came to England. England is not known for its any particular leader in Bible transfer in the reformation.
It's known for Bible translation. The reformation in England was about the word of God, front and center, like no other country in the world. And they Wycliffe was the man that was called the morning star, or that means Venus, the first one up or the last one down, the reformation. And, Wycliffe did that, but there were two things he did. He he's known for that. But what he's not known for, he was just a strong on. That's the laws of nature's God, the Bible. The laws of nature's God, like our declaration of 76 says That's a phrase from John Locke, the Englishman.
John Locke got it from the Scotch, Scottish enlightenment. John Locke was the best fan, the greatest fan of the Scottish enlightenment. They used to say in Scotland in those days, go south, young man. You wonder where that phrase came from the newspaper, magnet here in, America, go west, young man. He got that from the Scottish enlightenment. They said go south. And the Scottish enlightenment took over the whole island, and then it took over America. And in America, we it was the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. The laws of nature, that's our common law tradition. The laws of nature's God is the Bible. Wycliffe translated the Bible into English, and he said, there are two things that have to happen in my country where it's going down.
It's going down hard. And Wycliffe had been through hard times. He'd been through those great the black plague, the bubonic, whatever it was. He went through that. A third of the population died. He didn't. That he began as he went forward in life, black became blacker and white became whiter. And the gray areas began to go from his mind and he was captured like Luther later was of the word of God. And he he pushed that. He said, our country will never change and we won't be saved unless the boy that walks behind the plow can know more about the bible than the priest. Well, Whit Tyndale repeated that later. He is the first man, an Englishman, translate the bible into English from the original tongues.
But Wycliffe is the morning star and two things he wanted. He said, we've got to have it so the man or the boy that walks behind the plow can read the very word of God himself or himself. And number two, we've got to have the common law of England taught in, Oxford. And he was a professor there at Burton College, by the way. You gotta be taught in Oxford or this country is not gonna change. In other words, we've got to have the word of God among in our church houses proclaimed from the pulpit, And we've got to have our common law tradition in the courts and they were losing it. They were losing the common law tradition. By the way, Jeffrey Chaucer, from all the evidence I can find was, a brother-in-law to John Wickliffe.
Jeffrey Chaucer was a common lawyer, a sergeant at law. That means a barrister. His writings, Canterbury tales were all about the common law, the importance of it. Everything he did was about that. Everything that Wycliffe did was about the Bible and the common law. Both of those men, the, the crown was after their lives. They went after Chaucer. He fled, went to France, I believe. And then they went after Wycliffe, but they didn't get him until long after he, well, he beat, beat him to the punch. And as as, as I said, that he got a subpoena from a more powerful party than the king. And so he took that, and he died while he was in church, in the pulpit right there in the front, by the way. Really? Little church in Lutterworth. Yeah. The men, the elders there carried him outside. He's buried in that graveyard. Rome came along later, dug up his bones, held an inquisition on him, and declared him guilty, and crushed his bones up in little bitty pieces and burned them and scattered the ashes in a little brook there by the church. I'm Yikes.
Church. The name of the brook, though, was River River this is important. River Swift. River Swift. Wherever that is in England. But it River Swift, it it's more like a creek, but it's big enough. It's got water in it most of the year and and, runs to the sea. And ever after that, they said, ashes of John Wycliffe spread with the British Empire throughout the world, and America then is here because of all those things that happened. Let's not discount them. Why do we have the word of God everywhere in our in our homes? We have more Bibles in America. We take them to church and open up. How did that happen? That all happened. It all happened from what happened. And then John Knox of Scotland, along with a bunch of other English speaking people in Geneva, trans about about a dozen dozen men translated the Bible into English. They were there to keep their heads from being rolled from off on their shoulders.
And they translated the Bible into English called the Geneva Bible, and that was the first Bible that had notes. It was the first study Bible. It was the first Bible printed small enough that folk could carry it to church, and they did. Why do we carry our Bibles to church? We do it here in America. That's because that started back with those fellows. And they get that habit, that custom became really important based on, of acts when it said the Bereans are more noble than those of Thessalonica. The Berean Christians were more noble than those of the Thessalonica because they looked at the Bible to see if what the preacher was saying was true. They looked at the Bible to see if what the preacher was saying is true. He's up there pontificating about the Bible. I tell people when I teach the Bible, you got a copy of the book, get it, and open it up. This is this is biblical. This is good Bible. Open it up and see if you think what I'm saying is true. I'll take you through what I how I understand it, my testimony of how I've come to my conclusions, but I can't make the decision for you. You got to make it. You got to make it. When you stand before Jesus Christ, you're not gonna be able to say, well, the priest told me though. So so and so, or the preacher said this, or my father told me that, or the professor at school said this, or the supreme court said this was the truth, or or the king or the queen or the emperor or the pope or whatever. And Jesus Christ isn't going to tolerate that. He'll say, but why did you do what you did? On basis of what? In my revelation of my will to you, the Bible. Why? Do you know? If you don't know, you spend the rest of your life burying your head in the book till your blood is bibbling, and that's what you need to do.
It will make your life more tolerable. I know you might not have the same friends you had before, but you and you'll start talking. And like Paul said Paul said he can go into a a a gathering, go into somebody's home, walk into No. A pub. A pub. No. He said he could walk into somebody's kitchen at one time. And he said oh, did you who said pub? Was that you, Paul? Well, so I thought that's what he used the example. One time, he said been feeling this lately. You know, so I'm laughing at it. Go ahead. Well, he can walk into a pub, or he said he can walk into the kitchen if there's a gathering in somebody's home and clear the place out in less than thirty seconds just being himself. You know? I mean yeah. But why? Well, he says things that they can't compute or don't want to compute. Now I would I say that on on the basis of what I heard him say. I'm not just making this. But he can and he can elaborate on it or disagree with it or fine tune the statement better. But it is true. You may not have the friends you had before, but you have the confidence of knowing you're right, friends, if you're looking at God's word. See, that's the point. Well, Roger, I'm going to go. Are you? You got to take off today? Yeah. I got it, Brent. I don't want to. Somebody said something. Yeah. Paul. Oh, Paul. Brent, I have I have a couple of questions for you. Was that River Swift or could it have been Swift River? I haven't found anything. Well, you make a point because those those Englishmen say that, you know, we we say Clark County, they say County Clark. You know? I mean, they they turn things around. I don't know. You can be right. They we say, well, in the South, and they say, in the South Of England, they kinda say a little different. So they even have a place down there called Land's End that's kind of Yes. They do. The bottom end of the island. Well, I we don't say things like that as much, but you might be right. Look it up. But look up John Wycliffe. Just John Wycliffe. And there are different ways to spell it. Spell it the best way you think. Try but it's W Y C L I F F or C L I F. Either way, it'll come up. And there are different ways it's spelled been spelled through history.
John is the morning star of the reformation. Then in the book, excellence of the common law, I have a whole section on John Wycliffe and his plan for getting his country back. I heard Paul say one time, you know, I just want my country back. I don't know why he said that, whether it came from his mind or he heard it from somebody else. He said, I just want my country back. I'm talking about Paul, the Englishman from Yorkshire. He wants his country are you still here, Paul? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm listening. Oh, yeah. He said he wants his country back. Well, that's the same thing John Wycliffe said. I just want my country back. That's the same thing John Knox said when John Knox said give me Scotland or I die. That's what we want, and we should want that because God has given us a land.
Each of us, wherever we are, he's given it to us, and it's it's in trust, by the way, common law trust. And he wants us to not allow it to be polluted with false doctrine, which results in false actions. And he says that's what pollutes the land. And if we do that, then he will throw us off the land. He will displace us. You think this what's happening to us now is because we're good folk? No. Because we've allowed evil. God is in charge, my friend. Yeah. He wants us to do what yes. Yes. But understand he is sovereign, and it's not about a matter of him getting on our side. It's a matter of us getting on his side. I agree. He's sovereign. And that's happening. And it's happening. The pendulum swinging. It really is. So I mean, even this thing with, Kurt, Kirk. Kirk. Charlie Kirk. Charlie.
Listen. We've talked about how he was funded by the wrong people, and no man gets to be famous that age if he's not funded by the wrong people. I'm live long enough to learn what point. But he he I don't think he had bad intentions, but he started to say things he shouldn't have. Now his death in England is as big as it is here. It's as big or bigger in England from what they tell me. And worldwide. Yeah. God is the God of all things. He says, Romans eight twenty eight. He says, I make all things work together for good to them who are called, that's the elect, them who are chosen, same word, same synonyms, same no. Different. Same idea, different word. Chosen according to his purpose.
It doesn't say all things work together that are good. It says all things work together, the sepulch of the apostle, all things work together for good for his people. Not for anybody else, my friend. There's a lot he works evil. Now an evil thing happened. The man was murdered, But and he like the rest of us, he's a sinner. But God will take his life and he will work it together to his good for us, not for anybody else. Yeah. Keep that in mind. And if you wanna be one of us, if you wanna be one of us, that's probably the strongest of evidence that you are born from above. Yep. It's already happened because he puts a new desire in your heart. I'm quoting John Knox on that point. His mother-in-law came to him. I see. She was upset. She was beside herself. He said, what's the matter?
What's the matter, mom? This is his mother-in-law. I don't know what he called her. I'm elaborating a little bit. She said, I feel like now this is a quote. I feel like that the devil is like a roaring lion trying to devour me. I'm scared, scared, scared. And he said, now wait a minute. He said, now listen, mom. Do you feel like the devil is trying to devour you like a roaring lion? She said, yeah. I said quit I said, he said, quit worrying. Obviously, if he's trying to devour you, he hasn't devoured you yet. And, obviously, if you were not a Christian woman born from above, he wouldn't be trying to devour you.
So rest assured that he may be slobbering and foaming at the mouth trying to devour you, but God in this third twenty third Psalm said of king David, David said of god God had prepared a table before his enemies in the presence of his enemy by by the letters that Hebrew says, in the faces to the faces of mine enemies. He takes care of us. Relax, friends. You have those sensibilities. You you want to be a Christian. You're probably already born from above. Relax and follow-up on it. And if you're scared of the devil and you're worried, relax. The Bible says that's the way it is, but God is your defender. You are the apple of his eye. Apple? That's the old English. That's an English translation from the old country.
That's what they used to call the pupil of the eye is the apple. The apple of the eye. And he says you are the apple of his eye. What does that mean? That means that he doesn't have to think about defending you. It's instinctive. Somebody throws a piece of pay wads up a piece of paper and throws it at your face, what do you do instinctively if your head goes sideways and you shut your eyes or you throw your hand up? You don't think about it. That's the way he says his attitude is toward us. He didn't think about it. We are his barons, his born ones. There's a Yorkshire word.
I'm learning from Paul. See? I'm learning more to help communicate. Well, thanks a lot, Fran, and thank you for all those who listen. I'm go ahead. Somebody's gonna ask something. One one more quick question.
[02:20:32] Unknown:
One more quick question. I've heard I don't know if this is true, but is it true that the most successful arguments are made by lawyers who use crack? What? Does that does that, deserve an explanation? Because I hadn't heard that, but go ahead. Well, okay. Well, crack, I mean, it's not c r a c k, of course. I mean, no lawyer would ever do that, of course. Crack is c r a c, and, that refers to a legal writing style that, refers to conclusion rule analysis and then conclusion again. It's a widely used framework for structuring legal writing and analysis.
[02:21:16] Unknown:
No. That and that was I I I was taught that. First first year, first class. Yeah. That's the first thing you're taught. But no. That I would say that's not true. The most the the fellow that wins in court, you got you should do that when you now do analysis for the judge and there's no jury. You you need to. A matter of fact, that's the proper approach to Bible interpretation too. That's called your hermeneutics. Hermeneutics. And people are saying Herman what? Herman who? Well, no. Hermeneutics was Hermes was the, the Greek god of, no. No. See, Hermes, well, yeah, the Greek Roman god of, of the messenger god that had the wings on his feet. On the dime, on the back of the Mercury dime. Yeah. That's that's it too. And it means to bring the the the message across from one language to another or interpretation.
It means to bring it across if it's obscure. And a Bible teacher practices that. And it's a good way to approach the Bible. But the guy who wins in court the guy who wins in court listen to me close. The guy who wins in court is the guy that tells the most interesting story and makes it look like it's legal or it isn't, like, legal depending upon what he's trying to do. Why? Because why does Jesus Christ tell tell parables? Because stories sell. Facts tell. Facts tell, but stories sell. You take facts and weave them into a story. That'll get people's attention. I don't care how educated you are. I don't care how sophisticated you are. I don't care if you went to MIT and learned all that physics and mathematics. No.
A sane and a sane man who is emotionally and mentally healthy loves a good story. Yeah. I love it. They do. I I wanna hear that story. And that's that's why the Bible has all these stories. That's the first thing you should learn about the Bible. Read the Bible for the stories. Read the gospel records. It's a story. It's a biography of a man's life. The most important man whatever lived. It's a great story. And the gospel is the story. The god spell, the spelling out of what happened. And there's not a more exciting story, but there are other exciting stories. And when you go to court, you it our common law tradition is designed. It's a Christian tradition. It's designed to tell the story and hear, the story that's at hand.
I'm dealing with a guy now in a divorce case, and, we just did affidavits. I just try to go through and say, we'll do it like this. The facts, I I don't know the he knows the facts. But I want the affidavit to read in a way that's easy to understand as we say in affidavit, to read in a way that tells a story, a good story that will keep your attention a little bit. Because that's what how God made mankind. We're storytellers. We love stories. We start out that way as children. I went to law went to law school. You know, you get in class, the professors abuse you. And we have I had this one professor and we got ready for class. We'd read all the cases and he said, okay, man, who can tell a good story?
Because it's one thing to have the facts of the case, but he wanted somebody to try to tell the story. Well, that's part of being a lawyer. You get in front of the jury. The jury are not lawyers. God help us. If the jury are lawyers, we're really we're really destroyed at that point, but they aren't. And so we wanna tell them a story. We stand up and tell them the story we're gonna tell, and when we do closing arguments and summing up, we we tell the story. Oh, that old, old story. Yeah. So they're all alike. They're all exciting, and that's what we need. So yeah. But, what you said about crack is true. Now go ahead. Brit. Somebody.
[02:24:55] Unknown:
Brit. Brit, are taxes usury?
[02:25:01] Unknown:
Are what? Taxes usury.
[02:25:03] Unknown:
No, taxes. Taxes are extortion. Well, they may be. They well, no, They aren't if they're legal. Let's let's be measured here. They're legal taxes, and those aren't they are taken by force or threat of force if you don't pay them. But if they're illegal taxes, it's extortion. Yes. You're right. But you're only part right when you say that. Always say, I'm willing to pay lawful taxes. It's the unlawful one that seems to dominate. See, that's the problem. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Well Alright, Brent. Love you, buddy. Thanks for coming by. Today's exceptional show. We we didn't have any conversation and dialogue with the audience, and that's good. I think everybody was hanging on the the the issues, the topics we were dealing with. So thank you, buddy. I will look forward to, next Friday. Have a good week. Yeah. And all you Yeah. Thank you, Brent. Good thanks to you. Thank you for popping in, Paul. We're all the richer when you do. I know you can't all the time, or maybe you feel like you don't. But let me say to everybody here as I go away. I don't pray for everybody.
I do pray for my friends. I do. I'm not God. I'm not trying to save the world. That's silly. I'd be trying to usurp his place, but the folks on this show, I pray. I do. Why? Because the Bible commands it. And do I always feel like it? No. I don't always feel like it. I do it anyway. Sometimes I'm having a bad day, friends, but I try. I just do what the the next right thing to do. And so I want you to know that, and I want you to know that that, the discussions we have here, I think, are important to more people than we understand. That's my purse that's opinion. All opinions are personal. I don't that's redundant to say personal opinion. But thank you all. Well, lord willing, we'll see you next week. Join us for church on Sunday if you can. Go to comment go to go to Patriot Soapbox. And then on Saturday, we do the same thing on Sunday. We're going my idea. Told you what my plan is. John Wycliffe, laws of nature. Laws of nature is God. Common law as God has revealed himself in his creation, the laws of that, and the Bible, which is the court of last resort.
And we go over those on Saturdays Saturdays and Sundays. If you go to the website commonlawyer.com, you can see how to join us to do that. And by the way, all you folk out there, pray for old Brent. Pray for old Brent. Old Brent Allen, he will Yeah. We're we're just mortals, and, God's trying to make straight licks with us crooked sticks. So let's get with it and understand what's going on. And the Bible commands us to pray for our friends. And if, and we are to give special preference to the believers, not the the unbelievers. And we are to do that, and pray for me because I'm just trying to get the word out. Like, I know Roger is. Like, I know Paul is. Like, both Pauls here. They're committed to that. I think some of you are. And join us. Join us as partners in doing that if you think we're doing something worthwhile.
[02:27:50] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you both. All we have. Brent. Look forward to next week already. See you, man. Thank you, Brent. Bye. What a Thank you, Brent. Joy these Friday shows are to me. And that's one of the things Brent and I think would do these shows even if none of y'all were listening simply because both of us get so much out of it. And, I've got a pretty good old pool of knowledge there in the old cranium, and so does Brent. And one of the real magic things about our teaming up here is that I'll have information where he's got a gap. And I say something, and it triggers something in him, which comes back and triggers something in me. It's a very interesting relationship. I think both of us really, really like it, and we hope you do too.
So, audience, any of y'all got any questions for myself or mister English here while he's with us? It's a very interesting gonna be here much longer, Roger. I gotta go. Got a question before you go. Do you live close to Land's Inn?
[02:28:52] Unknown:
No. Okay.
[02:28:55] Unknown:
It's about 300 miles away from here. I see. So John O'Groats is up in Scotland. Land's End is probably about 300 miles from here. So that's not close. Maybe it's close in American terms. Maybe it's just around the corner, isn't it? Correct. Well, that really depends.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
Why do you want me to go there? Do you want me to go? No. I just he had mentioned it was in the Southern part of England, and I just, wondered if it's close to you. You're you're fairly close to which of the aisles is it down there? The Isle Of Wight?
[02:29:22] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. The Isle Of Wight, which is sort of directly below London. Well, slightly off to the to the west. Uh-huh. Where almost where I live is almost directly. If you go straight north, you just hit London Easttown if you want to. Uh-huh. And, but if you go west and go all the way down to Land's End, you're going to Cornwall and Devon and places like that. It's right at the tail end of the spur. Yeah. Your buddy that lives down there that you you used to have on
[02:29:49] Unknown:
with the unusual name.
[02:29:51] Unknown:
Maleficus.
[02:29:52] Unknown:
Maleficus. That one. Phew. Maleficus. Oh, how is how's our buddy, Andy doing?
[02:30:00] Unknown:
I haven't spoke to you mean, Andy Hitchcock? Yes. I haven't spoke to him in months, actually. I sent some emails to him about three months ago, but he's very quiet and private and cracking on. I think he does two or three shows. He's currently doing a sort of an audio reading of King James version of the Bible, I think, from time to time, from what I can see. Mhmm. Yep. So he stayed busy by that. I haven't spoken to him much recently.
[02:30:22] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:30:23] Unknown:
So but if I do, I'll let you know. Well, I'll we'll do him our best, and we think about his his book, and his name comes up around here occasionally. It came up just recently, actually.
[02:30:35] Unknown:
Well, we're gonna be busy here between now and the end of the year because, the the donor in chief, mister Starmer, has just announced today that digital ID is going to be compulsory. But, of course, I want to know what the word compulsory means, so I think we'll start pulling that apart. And, anyway, there's already 1,300,000 people within twenty four hours. In fact, today, it was announced at lunchtime. So in a matter of about six hours, 1,300,000 people have already signed a petition saying, no. That's not happening. Yeah. And it won't happen. It won't happen. They've been laying all sorts of pipe work to do all this stuff, but we'll just start burning it.
[02:31:14] Unknown:
It's war, really. So that's what's going on. We're absolutely in a war. No question. Our side too. Yep. And it becomes more obvious by the day. But did you hear oh, and I don't know if you're listening. The latest thing on the Charlie Kirk murder?
[02:31:30] Unknown:
Is What's the I mean, there's tons of stuff. I'm I always leave I'm trying to leave it for a couple of weeks because the dust settles and everybody's Well, that's But yeah. No. I haven't. What what's the Well, that's one thing. Like this come to the forefront. Stu Peters, who I know you know who he is,
[02:31:44] Unknown:
has, come out and theorized that Charlie Kirk had the microphone he's speaking until he also was wired with a lavalier microphone. And then the shot came from the lavalier battery case and that I did not know, and you may not have either, that all of his security detail was Israeli.
[02:32:06] Unknown:
Well, I'm I'm shocked. Roger to hear that. I can tell. Shocking, isn't it? That's what's a surprise. Who would have thought that?
[02:32:15] Unknown:
Wait. Let's let that listen. That's the thing. That makes the most sense of any of it to me. Okay? Especially tailing on their little pager scam that they did. And remember, Netanyahu gave, Trump a gold pager. Do you know how they took over Syria?
[02:32:35] Unknown:
No. They got Oh, did they blow those fax machine those pocket
[02:32:39] Unknown:
I don't know. They got Pages or something. They had an app that you could load which would give you some kind of a bonus if you activated it. And it integrated all of their cell phones, and they had no messaging capability as they were storming the Bastille and
[02:32:57] Unknown:
taking over Syria. Right.
[02:33:00] Unknown:
Nice.
[02:33:01] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:33:03] Unknown:
Nice. Know your enemy. Know your enemy.
[02:33:05] Unknown:
I know. Anyway Well, I'm gonna go, Roger, because I feel I said to Paul, I feel like a bear's ass today. This is a phrase from over here as well. You maybe have that one too.
[02:33:15] Unknown:
I'm I'm very rough. Yeah. Are you? Very rough, isn't it? You know what? Yeah. My old friend, Riggins, used to say, you'll like this. He said, some days you get the bear, and some days the bear gets you.
[02:33:30] Unknown:
Well, the bear got me today. There you go. You did you did notice my response to that, Paul, didn't you? I did. I did. Yes. Well, that's a mental picture I won't be able to get off with battery acid in the Brillo scouring pad. Oh, no. No. That's fine.
[02:33:45] Unknown:
Well, thanks for dropping by, pal. We'll look forward to, next time or when we commence the Saturday, whatever they're gonna be.
[02:33:53] Unknown:
Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I think, we we've spoken to a few more people. Everybody seems rather keen to do it. So I think a couple of weeks. I don't know when it's gonna be, but, I'm not gonna be doing much right now. I'm just gonna go and hit the hay now. You need to go home. Early night. Go hybrid. Go home. I'm just a bit rough. But, lots of tea today. I'm gonna drink a little bit more, and then I'll be okay. But it was good to swing by and spend a little time with you and Brent as it always is. So thanks, Roger. Well, you know how highly we hold you. So thank you, sir. We always appreciate your presence, and we'll look forward to the next time.
[02:34:23] Unknown:
We will. Absolutely. Alright. Okay. Just a minute. Yep. I we have we have assimilated such a wonderful group of people here. It's just so heartwarming for me. So as evidenced by today, especially. So we haven't heard hardly a peep except for Joan out of the audience. Murr peeped on in a long way. Does anybody have anything you wanna say or add? Is there anybody there?
[02:34:50] Unknown:
There. I do.
[02:34:52] Unknown:
Okay. We'll come forward.
[02:34:55] Unknown:
Oh, this is Thomas in Florida.
[02:34:57] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[02:34:59] Unknown:
Yeah. That was interesting. You were talking about that new that new, twist and the possibility of how how how Charlie was killed. And, yeah, I think the name of the security that he had around it was a Schaeffer something, Schaeffer security. And I guess they are all Israelis. And, you saw the Rents video of the guy in the brown shirt in the front. He seems to activate Yes. Everything when he reaches up and touches his left short sleeve with his right hand. And Yes. I'm not sure it was unredacted or what, but it is true that that little pager that he that that pager, that little microphone he had under his shirt was actually not that small. All you see on his shirt is the is the, the metal tab, which Right. You put on the outside of your t shirt and the underside. It's a magnet. It's just strictly a magnet to hold the two together.
And that guy doesn't activate something. And I know that I was kinda convinced that it was possibly the, probably, a 22, you know, long rifle or a short or something. But it's almost like the equivalent of, you know, when you point the the pointer at your television set and do a click, that's probably he very well could have been doing that. And Charlie's shirt does puff.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Yes. It does.
[02:36:20] Unknown:
Logical because when that round went off, if it was a '22, it would you know, it's gas. I mean, people don't realize that's all gunpowder does. It's nothing but a rapid expansion of gas that blows the slug out of the casing. Sure.
[02:36:34] Unknown:
That's There's another twist. Exactly what happened. Well, there's another interesting twist that came out this morning. In Utah, anyone that's murdered, it's it's, mandatory they get an autopsy, and he was not autopsied.
[02:36:53] Unknown:
That came out tried to close the case.
[02:36:56] Unknown:
Yep. I'm sure they are. I I also look at the things like Netanyahu coming out and announcing his death three minutes after. That seems unusual, does it not? And then the discombobulation he went through when that interviewer asked him something about Israel's involvement, and then the fact that he's came out twice since and set out disclaimers that Israel wasn't involved. Now that's unusual.
[02:37:25] Unknown:
I don't know if you're aware too. I mean, you are aware, but you know how Candace Owens, she was traveling with that troop. In other words, she was once a I I get the impression she was once basically a Christian Zionist. And, I think I saw her talking, and she seems to know all of his security first first name basis.
[02:37:48] Unknown:
Right. She's also got a mold gotta be able to name Well, she's also got a mold inside the organization Turning Point that is flipping her memos and stuff that are are are, you know, highly suspect. What I saw this morning, it was written September 2. So a couple days before he was assassinated, and he was directing them to not only find out where the money that was they had was being spent, but he was also curious about its origins, which means were they using his platform to launder money? Just a question. That came out from Candace Owens this morning. I saw it on, on the morning show on Infowars.
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She probably knows the man's name who the brown shirted man, she probably knows his name. I I would feel certain she probably does.
[02:38:47] Unknown:
So we'll see. Another day, we'll find out more. You know, we'll find out what else comes out today. But every day, there's new new stuff coming out. But this two Peter's things really make sense to me. We'll see if it pans out or not. So thank you, Thomas. Did you Who else has got Who else has got Go ahead.
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Did you also see that his wife, Erica, apparently knew Trump long before well, before she knew Charlie because she was involved in all that pageant business?
[02:39:21] Unknown:
Oh, I did not know that. So
[02:39:23] Unknown:
so she had a previous connection to Trump before she ever even met Charlie. She's from Romania or her mother. Apparently, she was involved in some sort of a charity ministry saving young girls in Romania. Oh. And it turns out that there were some accusations that they were trafficking, and her mother was involved. Isn't that interesting?
[02:39:50] Unknown:
Oh my god. You just get overwhelmed with all this, don't you? It's beyond belief. I know. I just kinda step back for it and wait to see things develop. Yes?
[02:40:00] Unknown:
Yes. I wanted to thank you for bringing up Michael Hudson today. I always enjoyed listening to him and Max Kaiser, but I also wanted to give kudos to a woman, and her name is Ellen Brown. And she's also very good. She wrote the book, The Web of Debt, and Yes. Just really good, I actually read her vaguely. Where we are.
[02:40:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I remember her vaguely. We hadn't seen her around too much in recent years, but I remember that web of debt.
[02:40:34] Unknown:
Yeah. She she Yeah. They're they're all getting older now. Right.
[02:40:39] Unknown:
And now just for our audience here, now the whole thing is designed around making us property and this scheme that we've uncovered and how to exit. The whole thing's based on this right here. Everything we talked about. Because, the money, the credit, the currency always comes from this. And if they didn't have that, they'd have to be ponying up their own currency, to circulate and do business with. So this is a way for them to do it and then just nothing but scrape three, four, or five layers of compound interest right off slap off the top. Yep. Very slick.
Yep. Give them credit. Roger. Thank you. Yes, sir. Larry. Yes, sir. Hey, Larry.
[02:41:23] Unknown:
Yeah. So I've been, following this, this whole Charlie Kirk assassination, watching a lot of videos, listening to a lot of, a lot of interviews. And the latest is, and I think you you mentioned this, early on in the program, that what they're thinking now, a lot of these investigative, you know, journalists, Really, it's the the alternative media is the free press now in our country. And so everybody's trying to figure this out. Everybody wants the truth. And so the now the theory is that the, the lapel microphone, which is about the size of a pager, that was underneath his shirt. So that little black, I don't know. It's like an oval shaped black item that's on on Charlie's right chest.
That is a magnet. And and so what's connected on the other side of his shirt we just is the
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who
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did who just said that? I'm sorry. Didn't we weren't we just talking about the magnet and the and the lapel microphone and all that? Somebody just Yeah. Yeah. Talking about that.
[02:42:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Right. I'm I am I am going somewhere with this, though. So, anyway, there's a video of of a guy that's in the crowd, and it almost looks like he's pushing a button on a remote Yeah. Control Yeah. Which corresponds with the explosion, and that would explain the the big bubbling of of Charlie Kirk's shirt. And, the the, the what a lot of a lot of people believed was a blood spurt because they believed that he was shot from the back of the head. And then the, where the blood gushed out, that would be the exit wound. Well, that turned that blood spurt turns out to be his necklace.
And so the necklace came disattached from the front of his shirt, and this would explain that. And it and it went up backward because of that little explosion or whatever that was that was going on inside Charlie Kirk's shirt. But anyway, here's here's something that, I learned that's very interesting. So this, there's this, this news program called Redact It, and, and they're interviewing, a gentleman by the name of Ryan Mada, m a d a, and he's an investigative journalist. So he and a friend were looking at the timelines, and did did you ever notice that when we when we review all of this footage of of the assassin running on the roof, We are never shown him lying in the prone position taking the shot, and it's already been proven that that camera that was mounted catching this assassin running on the on the roof, that that had total view of the entire roof.
And so for whatever reason, the FBI is not allowing us to see this assassin lying down in the prone position, taking the shot, then quickly standing up, wrapping the alleged rifle in this black towel, and then begin running in a full sprint. The only thing we see is this full sprint. So what what they did was this Ryan Mata and a friend of his, they were looking at the timeline down to the second. And they said that that that assassin, that alleged assassin, was already in a full sprint three seconds after the shot went off. And that's just nearly impossible for someone to be in a prone position and then stand up and then put their gun in a some type of black sheath and begin running.
So there's something off there. It just gets it just gets more mysterious
[02:45:23] Unknown:
by the day. Every day, I it's a incredible situation. Agree with you. So wow. Good show today. Anybody else got anything Hey, Roger. We can talk more about see what develops on the, Charlie Brown thing till tomorrow. Hey, Roger. Yes. I know that yes, Roger. Yeah. Just hold on. Dave's first.
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It's okay.
[02:45:47] Unknown:
Thank you. Hey. How are you doing? Oh, it's alright. Anyway, you know, I'm not I don't think I mentioned this before, but, you know, Jim Fetzer, nobody died at Sandy Hook. That guy, you know, he's been studying this kind of stuff for thirty years, and he first thought that Charlie was shot and believed the official narrative. And then he start breaking down all the videos with experts that that's what he does. You know, he ain't the expert, really. He he is, but he isn't. He brought in a couple people. He's got a two hour video on Rumble, and and he he says he proves that Charlie wasn't shot. It was a psyop.
The blood, you know, that Candace says the the video somebody sent her from behind says there's no blood anywhere. Not just behind. There's no blood anywhere. That's my that's my question.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Myrrh See, and on top of that played a book. Of that, Dave, it's a white banner or whatever the material is behind him. Any spray from that hit of a high velocity projectile would have sent blood all over that thing.
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All over. It would have been all over the stage, all over his beautiful brand new white shoes. There wasn't a drop of blood anywhere except what oozed from behind his neck. And Fetzer says there's a you could see the the blood pack, you know, the squib or whatever, behind in his back, and that's what oozed out in in the blood. Now he's saying that you can see the video where the blood lay it's layered. It doesn't absorb into any fabric, and it's just it's AI. And now, Maria Lassiter, she's a coroner in a county near, in Missouri.
And she was a nurse for, you know, thirty or forty years, and she's been the coroner since just before COVID. She said she's seen thousands and thousands and thousands of dead bodies. She said there's no dead bodies in any of these photos, right, of Charlie and all that. And then this guy, James, from Vancouver, I I think I told you about this guy. He calls in into a lot of RBM stuff, and he's a cohost on some shows. And Yeah. I didn't like him at first, and I heard him say several years ago that he was a Jew, a Catholic, and a Mason.
I I got a chuckle out of that. Anyway, this guy yeah. This guy brings some really good intel to a lot of shows that always seems to come true. He said that, hit Charlie's father and I didn't get it. He either designed the Fiftieth Floor of the Trump Tower or or the is Trump Tower all 50 floors, or is it bigger than that?
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In New York? No idea. I have no idea. He he he was involved in it, Dave. He he said designed.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
Yeah. He he designed it. So I don't know if he designed the Fiftieth Floor or the whole building, but, what, Larry said, you know, about the Charlie's wife. You know, Trump had her go apply to the, turning point, you know, outfit for a job because he, you know and now the what's come out is that when she was 17, she got a letter in the mail that and I don't remember who I didn't get all the the details, but somebody requested that she run for, miss Arizona. She was an old pageant, you know, and she didn't do that her whole life. Most of them girls, they're in it since they're little kids. Right? Right. Right. When she was 17, she got a letter. And so she decides, oh, okay. And she runs and wins. So you know she's got a connection to Trump. And, Charlie, was best friends with Donald Junior.
And, you know, he he started stomping for for Trump when when, what's his name lost, from Florida because he that's what Charlie did. He went to Florida out of high school, and he and he started working for DeSantis, presidential campaign. And then he start working for Trump. And, you know, they say that that Charlie's wife comes from money, and she learned how to make financial trust since she was 18 years old. And that the turning point was a 05/2001 c three, and they were reporting This comes from James in Vancouver. They were reporting 80 to a $100,000,000 in that business since 2012 every year.
And it when Charlie allegedly was shot, it only had 40,000,000 in it. So the the there he's you know, he believes that she was, you know, putting this money in offshore trust funds, every year, and Charlie's worth about a billion dollars. And now Fetzer believes that Trump saw them you know, he found out about Butler before Butler happened, and he orchestrated the whole thing. He flipped the script, and Butler and the guy that did it all, they Fetzer says was in the front row, at Charlie's talk in Utah. And so he's the guy that
[02:51:32] Unknown:
I I think that's the one Stu Peters is fingering as the trigger mechanism button.
[02:51:38] Unknown:
Yeah. But that was Alex. Well, Alex
[02:51:41] Unknown:
went off well, Alex went off on him yesterday. He called Stu Peters all kinds of ugly names. They're Alex is like that, Andy. And, and he said, what are you doing fingering this guy for murder on on, you know, on international television? So that was his big beef yesterday of how do you Well, he wasn't did he finger him for murder or or the the, Well, he accused alleged murder that woman. He accused him of doing something that coordinated
[02:52:10] Unknown:
the explosion on the on the my on Charlie. K? That was on that money. All that all that explosion did was was release the blood pack on Charlie's back to make it look like Charlie was dead because Maria Lassiter, the the coroner, she says there wasn't a drop of blood when they picked him up. No. Well, let me back up a bit. She says here in Missouri, you know, we have a football game, and there's at least one, ambulance on standby in case somebody, you know, gets hurt in the crowd or in the you know, has a heart attack or a kid gets hurt on the field. And everything they do, there there wasn't an ambulance there. You know? And then after they the the guy on the team, Charlie's team picked up Charlie's chair that he was sitting in when he was allegedly shot. He stood stood on top of it and took the camera down from behind Charlie that that had got everything. And then he took it to a table.
Place. Let me finish my sentence. Then he took it to a table. Your sentence, Dave. No. Darn. But as long as I it takes, man. What the hell? I got the floor. He took the, you know, the out of the camera. He took the memory stick out of the camera and then walked away. So I'll yield there. Go ahead, Joe. You got the floor, mister important.
[02:53:34] Unknown:
Go ahead, Joe. Joe. Okay. Well, anyway, we'll it remains to be seen as all these things become exposed, man. And day by day, it gets, it gets cloudier by the day and yet a little bit clearer. So I just wait until the next shoe drops. Yes. Was that you, Larry?
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Yeah. Have you ever heard of the Lebanon pager explosives? Yes.
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Well, I know what they did over there with them in Lebanon. Yes.
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And so on September
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Netanyahu gave Trump a gold one when he visited last time.
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Probably. Paid,
[02:54:23] Unknown:
on September 17 he did. He presented it with him as a gift in the Oval Office. A pager? Go ahead. A golden pager? Yes. A gold gold pager.
[02:54:35] Unknown:
Interesting. So on 09/17/2024, thousands of pagers belonging to Hezbollah members anything. Detonated simultaneously. The explosives had been covertly implanted into the pagers' batteries during the supply chain process. A long planned intelligence operation attributed to Israel Israel's Mossad, intelligence service. And then there's the walkie talkie explosions. A day later, on September 18, a second wave of explosions targeted walkie talkies, killing and injuring hundreds more. And then this one, victims and casualties. The explosions resulted in at least forty two deaths and nearly three thousand injuries. Many victims suffered severe injuries to their hands, face, and eyes, and some required amputations.
Civilians were among the casualties, including children and health care workers.
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Yes. The wonderful Israelis.
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Roger.
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Comment. God's chosen people for sure. Go ahead, Joe. Roger, I would really appreciate it if you would place this thing a little better because I've been trying to get in here for ten minutes. Well, I had Joe hadn't heard your voice or I would've recognized you. I'm sorry. I can't get o I can't yell loud enough to get over them. Well, you you got four people running near the show, and I just can't take it anymore. You got four people doing what? Running the show. Well, I recognize Dave. He was telling the story. I admit it was a great a bit verbose, but, were you trying to correct something he was saying or what?
And and we read and we read and we read. Nobody can get a word in edgewise that has anything that's important to say. You have about four people that all they have to say is the most important Joe, I'm I'm I'm sorry. Joe, I do the best I can, man. I didn't hear your voice, and I recognize you. But you got it now. Well, please come forward because I might and say your please come forward and say your peace, Joe. We do the best we can, man, with what we got. Okay? Well, I guess Joe decided to leave. Alright. Well, I couldn't help, but I didn't hear his voice. Yes, Sketch?
[02:57:07] Unknown:
I'd like to call a vote. I read in the in the chat here is I nominate Larry Tafoya, the FBI, to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole of Charlie Kirk. So I think we need to take a vote and have him do some foyas. I appreciate you today. Thanks so much, and have a good day.
[02:57:26] Unknown:
That was Joe's that was from Joe? No. Hey, Roger. Knows what Joe's comment was gonna be. What what what the hell is going on here with the program?
[02:57:38] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. The problem Can you hear me? Is that it's not full duplex. Yeah. So when somebody is talking, particularly if they're yelling and they're speaking loudly, then nobody else can get through as long as they're talking. And if they don't stop to take a breath, nobody else is gonna be able to get in. It's the nature of the beast. It's not like a telephone. It's not full duplex. Well, you need to explain that to Joe, would you? So and also his phone is faint. Sometimes you can't hear him. He's not upfront like some of these other connections.
[02:58:09] Unknown:
So that's part of the reason too. Yes, sir. Quick. We've been on an extra hour. What do we got, please? You mean me? You mean me? I will yeah. Go ahead. Go for it.
[02:58:20] Unknown:
Oh, oh, okay. Okay. So I wanna just present an idea, from a bus excuse me? Are you No. Go ahead. Need to go, Roger? Should I not?
[02:58:35] Unknown:
Well, I I've been doing running a running running a radio show from the other side of the microphone is not sitting there listening. And for two, now three hours, I have to concentrate 100% on everything. And and and should things like this with Joe happen? And at the end of a couple of hours, it's very draining. All you people have to do is listen. If you wanna go take a leak, you can go to the bathroom and take a leak. I can't do that. So, yeah, after a couple of hours, it's really draining because it's demanding if you're gonna do it right and good. And I tried to. So go and and so, Doug, can you be brief?
[02:59:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'll just say this. Today's show with you and Brent and, Paul is just great. You know? Yeah. Well, both Pauls, of course. Of course. Yeah. Wiener, just the just the, you know, nobody really thinks about him. Actually,
[02:59:48] Unknown:
the the magician in a sense behind the whole thing just to keep an eye on People think of me all the time. Wait. Wait. Wait. I'm good. People think of me all the time. I'm good.
[03:00:00] Unknown:
That's okay. It's just that was a a thankful, loving sentiment. Anyway okay. So I'll make this quick. See, I'm looking at this correct thing, and, and then I'm comparing it. Well, I I drew a connection. My brain did. Okay. Here's the latest. We had, the nine one one thing was big because Oklahoma City and, etcetera. And I so how I'm distinguishing this, examining it, is by the reaction of, you know, did, you know, did a 100 people show up in Oklahoma for this thing? Or but in this case here, like COVID, when JFK died, I was in grammar school.
And when the news was cast given to us, I personally, as a boy, cried. Because our president, this guy I didn't know, really didn't really care about, but he was a symbol of the country I'm living and the life I'm in. So every aspect, every other major thing, what I'm speaking to here is that when something goes so global, I never even heard of Charlie Kirk until it just kinda trickled in after he was dead, and I was like, wow. I never even knew that, of him or anything. But the the, response is over it's over any limit. You could it's just like, you know, the pope died or something. It's a it's a tipping point event.
[03:02:07] Unknown:
Life from his death on will never be the same.
[03:02:11] Unknown:
But but I'm comparing it to, JFK and, Oklahoma City and 911. And I think these things, there has to be something special, Roger. Some power or demonic, you know, people praying for this to have this kind of evil, come into existence and just hurt so many peep but it's a repetition. So I just
[03:02:46] Unknown:
yeah. Go ahead. People all over the globe. The reactions have been astounding to me. Obviously, he is Well, that's what I'm I I never That's what I'm See, you and I would never have paid attention to him because he was he was Israeli. He was he he was Zionist oriented. So I would never Well, I didn't even know that. Very long. Oh, we'll see. Okay. Well, I
[03:03:08] Unknown:
no. I no. I would whole thing. You know, you and I are the same, cloth,
[03:03:14] Unknown:
so I wouldn't either. Well, see, that's the whole crux of it is he's been starting to question Israel for the last couple of months since Epstein broke. And it seems like he was breaking with Israel and the support he had always given them that he was known for, and he evidently told people in his inner circle he was scared he was gonna get assassinated
[03:03:39] Unknown:
by Israel. Well, here's my yeah. Here's my thing, Roger. You know, they kinda you know, I've been learning about this since this happened. I asked my son-in-law, I said, he's 35 or six around there. And I said, what's this thing with Charlie Kirk? Because I had no idea. This, whatever it's oh, Turning Point Turning Point USA. Right. Well, to to me, it looks like a, a business to an organization.
[03:04:19] Unknown:
Well, wait. That's what it looks like. That's the bill. Well, that's was that the question he had? Was that the memo that Candace Owens got from inside that said he was not only concerned about the disbursement of the funds, but the acquisition of the funds and their origins and stuff? So was he being used as a money laundering platform? These are all kinds of stuff we don't know. It's just come up in the last day or two, Paul, Doug. So hey, Doug. Stay tuned. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Man, I mean, I wouldn't wanna be in in I wouldn't wanna be in the position of
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Moses or, you know, Elijah, Jeremiah, having to stand up for things. I don't I'm I'm not saying he was that. But
[03:05:06] Unknown:
Was he turning away from his support of little bastard Zionism state of Israel and gonna expose them? And they wanted to kill him before he was able to do that in Marjorie. And now they can take over and go, well, let's let Ben Shapiro come in and take over Turning Point USA. You know? So it's a there's a lot of stuff surrounding this, and it gets,
[03:05:33] Unknown:
seriously So so, anyway, they're finished.
[03:05:35] Unknown:
Sure. Well, can you please manage? I've been on for thirty hours.
[03:05:40] Unknown:
Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying that there seems to be something tied with this crook thing that has some type of mega supernatural control that I mean, people are reacting to this in other countries. This is, like, insane. It's ridiculous. But it's happened. And so I'm just comparing it to well, for me, I mean, this is brand new.
[03:06:19] Unknown:
It's obviously a huge global event that touched many people of all nationalities, ethnicities, etcetera. So maybe that's an indication of what's going on and the change we're going through in the world with people in general trying to get back to some spirituality and get away from the evil. Yeah. Exactly. Don't know what it is, but they know it's there.
[03:06:45] Unknown:
Well, I just know from personal experience that if you are lost and you feel you want something and you're called, to this thing, it doesn't go to everyone, that, you call out and, you get some, information. And, if you follow, it changes your life totally, 180 degrees. The the Creator, our, the Heavenly Father, the Creator, Yahweh, Yahuwah, whoever you call him, he exists. He's in total control. He's the being that created every molecule that everything is made from. So that is humbling if you accept that. So, just I I really I I have to try to avoid, just the rhetoric of, you know, this Charlie Kirk thing.
Oh, so let me say this. Oh oh, fuck. Kirk. Kirk. You know what the, I think it's Irish or or Scottish. You know what the definition of Kirk is
[03:08:07] Unknown:
in that language? No, sir. No. No. No. Please tell us. It's
[03:08:12] Unknown:
it's church.
[03:08:14] Unknown:
Oh, Kirk is church. Church.
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K. Yeah. The true church.
[03:08:20] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Alright. Well, he's just an interesting man. You know? Yep. That's okay. But, can I go eat lunch now?
[03:08:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I wish I could buy it for you if I could. But No. Well see you later.
[03:08:35] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Doug. Larry, is that you?
[03:08:40] Unknown:
Yes, sir. So I found something.
[03:08:44] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[03:08:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Have you heard of the Charles Charlie Kirk murder snake eyes conspiracy theory?
[03:08:55] Unknown:
No. And I'm not sure I'm gonna hear it right now. Why don't you bring it back to '98.
[03:09:01] Unknown:
Oh, that that movie that movie, I saw Martin today in a clip this morning. So yes. Yeah. So what's interesting is it says here,
[03:09:09] Unknown:
it refers to an Internet conspiracy theory based on similarities between the shooting of right wing political pundit Charlie Kirk in September 2025 and the and the plot of the 1998 thriller film Snake Eyes, starring Nicholas Cage, a politician character named Charles Kirkland is fatally shot in the neck at the live event, a professional boxing match in the movie, mirroring the death of Charlie Kirk. Now, one more sentence or two. This is where it gets interesting. Others claim that the assassination in the movie also occurred on September 10, but the claim was false due to a misreading of a sign in the film that instead said September 19.
The sign in question also showed a boxer nicknamed Tyler the executioner, which conspiracy theorists linked to the name, of Kirk's suspected shooter, Tyler Robinson. Yep. That's beyond coincidental.
[03:10:13] Unknown:
Yep. Heard that this morning. Okay. Well, I'll see y'all tomorrow. Have a wonderful, Friday. And, we'll see Thank you, Roger. Pleasure. Comes up between now and then. We'll we never know. Thank you, Sketch.
[03:10:25] Unknown:
Hey, Raj. Raj, one more thing. Paul. Paul. Paul. Yes, sir. Run. Run. Run away. Thank you. Enjoy your lunch.
[03:10:36] Unknown:
Bye. And, Larry Larry, I I wanna ask you. Have you looked into Operation Black Echo? Because I hear a lot of echoes. Look up Operation Black Echo. You'll have a better understanding what you're going through.
[03:10:58] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. I will look into it. Appreciate it.
[03:11:02] Unknown:
So I'm wondering, the last the guy who was saying look into Black Echo. Hello?
[03:11:13] Unknown:
Operation Black Echo.
[03:11:17] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Okay. Operation Black Echo and, well, it caught me off guard, and I wasn't even able to say what this is all repeat what you said.
[03:11:38] Unknown:
It's about, trauma based mind control. It it it directs you down rabbit holes.
[03:11:52] Unknown:
Okay. Operation what? What's that called? It's not operation rabbit hole, is it? No. Operation
[03:12:02] Unknown:
black, b l a c k, like the color. Yeah. I know. Spell black. Well, I'm making sure you hear me the right word, not I do. I spelling. Echo, e c h o. Yeah.
[03:12:17] Unknown:
Okay. So this is, kinda witnessing a particular thing going on. Is that correct? You know, some some type of, mind control or technology or whatever against the car some somewhat common, just to anybody. Right? Is that it? Thought I was talking, but, no, the same.
[03:13:58] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, it seems like, pretty much the, the gas has run out of just about everybody. So I'm taking this thing down. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and Brent Allen Winters, the Friday edition. We had Paul English, our buddy from across the drink, join us today. Lots of interesting conversation, and, of course, we went down the Charlie Kirk rabbit hole yet again. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer, for sure longer today. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That is thematrix,d0cs,.com.
Go there. Pack a lunch. Stay the day. You'll find all kinds of cool stuff. I'm Paul. Thanks for joining us. Catch you later. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Ah, yes. So do we, Alvin, and we, we do double trouble trying today on Friday with Brent Winters who well, he might not be here yet, but he ain't gonna show up in a minute. He might just showed up right then. Friday edition, Radio Ranch, Brinker Sales, Brent Winters. Has he been here? Oh, I didn't see him up there hanging around. Sorry, Brent. Not used to you being early, my man. It's the September 26. Next week, we roll into October. October is always a historical, potentially volatile month, especially financially, and, this year will be no different. In fact, I believe it will be accentuated.
So, Brent, welcome here at the start of the program. How are you doing, my friend? The mute is mute. For any of the new students, we have this Friday thing with this, fella here. I'm think he's gonna come on and say hello in a second, mister Brent Winters. We've been doing these shows for over twelve years, best we can recollect. And, very, very rarely over all that time have we ever missed programs. We have, not often. And, anyway, so I was always tickled to death to have Brent along, and we have these conversations. Much of the time, I just kinda turn the show over to him.
It was originally Brent hadn't gone over this, so maybe some of the audience doesn't know this. The way that Brent and I met years ago, I was on, the first real network after I was doing cameos on RBN over there with Bennett. And I started with my own slot up at truth, up at, I at Microfact. And, on Microfact was a, fairly well known attorney in Patriot Circles named Larry Beecraft. Larry's a good guy. I've known him for years. Very personable, fun to be around. And, he had his own Saturday show, and he would send, out a email on who his guest was gonna be. And, so I get this email from Larry, and it says I'm gonna have, Brent Winters, an expert on the common law.
Well, that caught my attention right off. I understood back then that that's what we were doing in our program was moving over back under that. And, the fact that, here's a guy who's supposed to be an expert on it, and the only person I knew in the whole country that knew very much at all about it was my teacher, John w Benson. So my original thoughts were if this guy's an expert Brent's got his own commentary on that. If this guy's an expert, then, I I should see if I can get him and John Benson on a program together. And it was unfortunate timing that Don John was towards the end of his life, and we just never got to put that together. Unfortunately, it would have been a great program with these two. Anyway, so I said, well, why don't you just come on with me? And I was on on Fridays, and the show's in the afternoon drive slot at that time.
And so, with Brent's, incredible knowledge and adaptability on the Bible and connecting these things, and my original thought was that it was the way to end a week and people would have things to noodle on over the weekend because I didn't do Saturday shows back then. And so that's where we started. And from the very first, there was chemistry there, that both of us recognized, I guess. And, here we are all these years later. So, Brent, welcome.
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Hi, Roger. You know, what it is is if two two men can hang out together and not try to kill one another,
[00:05:57] Unknown:
then that's called good chemistry. There you go. Okay. I'll buy that.
[00:06:01] Unknown:
Well, fuming men have their own ideas like you and I, and we, for some reason, we've been able to maintain mutual respect to some degree. Some I don't think we're always what we ought to be. We've been able to. Two points, and you'd mentioned, expert, my own ideas about that. And I tell the story about my brother who was always a wordsmith even when he was a little kid, and we were supposed to be picking up brickbats out in the edge of the cattle lot and pile them, and we weren't doing it. When sitting around, he was talking. We got our we got the board of education applied to the seat of knowledge that day, I remember.
But we were sitting there trying to not working. And he said, do you know what an expert is? And I said, what? He said, well, x is the sign of the unknown, and a spurt is a drip of fluid under pressure. So an expert is an unknown drip under pressure. And, that stuck with me all through all of my life. I'm older now. And I when people say expert, I immediately think of that, and I don't wanna be, in that category. But experts are a dangerous bunch. Now what what I have focused on and the more I live, second point, Roger, the more I live, the longer I live, the more I know about less and less.
Mhmm. The longer I live, the more I know about less and less. A Chinese communist told me that once. I was, in the old main building where I was going to school, and it was an old building, and there was a janitor's closet there on the First Floor. And I went walking by one time, and there was this highfalutin, trigonometry professor sitting on a bucket in this janitor's closet talking to the janitor. And he happened to be a Chinaman from communist China. Somehow he got here. He was a in communist China. He really wasn't a communist. And he was a trigonometry professor, and, I had him. I couldn't understand anything he said.
Really, I mean, he he he just couldn't speak English, for nothing. And, but he did tell me and got across to me. Nice fella. I'd try to go to him and get help because I couldn't understand what he's what he was talking about. But he said, the longer I live, the more I know about less and less. And he knew a lot about arithmetic and mathematics and plain geometry and trigonometry. And what's that what's that kinda, arithmetic where you try to discover the the speed of an object, which you really can't discover at any given point. Calculus? Yeah. Calculus. He he thought that too. And,
[00:08:49] Unknown:
yeah.
[00:08:50] Unknown:
Oh, Brent Brent, hold on. Hold on just a second. Could whoever's got the mic open in the background, please close it. Your conversation is bleeding over on the program. Thank you.
[00:09:01] Unknown:
Hey, Gary. That's Gary. Well, so the nice thing nice thing that you say, Robert, but, we've been able to get along. And, sometimes when we get off, I say, I shouldn't have said that. That was offensive thing to say or I I do that sometimes, Roger. I try to be careful. The Bible says honor all men, and that takes work. It takes work. Boy, boy, does it? Yeah. And that's our job, though. Even the ones that don't deserve it. Oh, that exactly. They that's what that's what the book says. It makes no provisos, no exceptions. Well, what does that mean? Well, that doesn't mean you let them do whatever they want to. Yeah. You may have to kill a man even. I'm not saying do that, but there times come when self defense is necessary. And even in those cases, we're not to torture or abuse or even bad mouth other men.
Do what the law of God says, in every case, and that's the Bible says that's the definition of the love of God. But it doesn't look like love to many people. I can tell you by experience. Yeah. And much much if I've had any suffering in life, and I haven't had a lot compared to some people, I'm still north of dirt and and moving. You know? Some people, the evil empire kills them, jails them. I'm still I'm still running loose. Although, I've had my problem with people throwing me in jail, but I'm They wanted to. They just didn't get to do it long enough. Yeah. Thank thank thank you, Lord, for the 12 man jury. I'll say that. And that you. They sprung me. They sprung me. And, and it was a stacked jury, by the way, and that's the resilience of our common law tradition.
Even when the jury is stacked, it can work. Not always. No. But we got a shot in America at justice. They don't even have a shot at it, it, a fair shot at it in the rest of the world, oh, well, the rest of the non common law world. But where the jury is, you've got a shot at defending yourself. That's why, of course, the evil empire and the useful idiots thereof worked so hard to get to get rid of the jury. That's right.
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How did Russia miss attaching themselves to the Anglo Saxon common law, the Slavs there?
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Well, that that's an important question. I'm glad you brought that up. Here's how it happened, Roger. It happened in the year primarily in the year 1453. You know, those folk were rub rather tribal.
[00:11:24] Unknown:
They were a tough bunch. You said that's the the Rus'? The Slavs, the Rus'? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're a tough bunch. And Oh, absolutely.
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And and and smart. I don't demean them. Again, the Bible says honor all men. But what happened in 1453 was the fall of Constantinople, and a 100 about a 180,000 Islamic Turks surrounded the what was known in the ancient world that the middle ages, known as the impregnable city. There was no way anybody could breach all those walls, and they had a lot of big walls around that city. And that was the at that time, the last geographic vestige of the Roman Empire. The last geographic vestige in the Roman Roman emperor. It was like the Vatican. It was just a small place by comparison to a country, but it was a country, a city state. The emperor was inside. Of course, they were the Eastern church by that time, but there's really never the Eastern church and the Western church, they're the same church, always have been. Do they have their differences now? Yeah, politically, but they're the same church. They came from the same same source and and they fundamentally have the same law and it's not the Bible. It's the canon civil laws of Rome. And that's what, at that time, had overtaken the law of Babylon, had overtaken the Western and Eastern churches. Well, the Islamic Turks had surrounded the city, and, there was a turncoat, among the Islamic tur Turks, a turncoat from the Christian East named Urban Getties.
I believe it's spelled g e t t e s. Urban. Characteristically his name was Urbane, which means city and the law of the city. Well, but he was his engineer and he invented, it wasn't a big deal. And those days it was, it was a cannon made of brass that fired an 1,100 or 1,200 pound projectile. And now a a cannon that for example, when I was a a young fella and I was around armament, I remember we had, we were armed with three five inch 54 guns. And they weren't guns you put shells in. They were it was kinda funny. You you threw the powder in sacks. You threw it in. You threw the shell in. You threw the wadding in, then you rammed it home and fired. It wasn't a gun that was modern enough to even have shells, but that was, part of the armament at that time. And that fired a shell that or a projectile. It was five inches just over five and a half inches diameter.
And that was big and could do some serious damage. It didn't weigh it didn't weigh anything like 1,200 pounds. This thing weighed projectile weighed 1,200 pounds. Can you imagine? Well, they kept firing that thing away at one point in the in the walls and just kept going through the walls, and they eventually got through the walls. You know, you put trauma at one place on any piece of material enough times, and it will shatter. It may take fifty years, a hundred years if you can do it, but if you've got a big enough projectile like that and keep pounding away at the same place, it will explode sooner or later. The then the walls just blew apart after time, and the Islamic church rushed in and murdered everybody in sight. They didn't have any discrimination of women, children, and they murdered the emperor. He had done he'd done mass that morning. He was Romanist. He was he was Babylonian, the best way to say it. He was he was in in the East.
But Babylonian, the mass is Babylonian, has nothing to do with the Bible, nothing to do with Christianity, nothing to do with Jesus Christ. No evidence of it anywhere. It's from the courts of Babylon. And, he did mass that morning, donned his armor, and waited for the inevitable, and he was murdered. But there were some people in the city of Constantinople because remember, Constantinople was cons was named after Constantine, the Roman emperor who founded it and moved this Christianity, the the capital of Christianity from Rome to Constantinople. Well, when Constantinople fell, Rome then became the capital again and still is, and Constantinople has never recovered to the to the degree it was. But, the people the the folk inside, the bureaucrats that were the head of the bureaucracy called the the Babylonian church, took the documents that the church had compiled over the centuries.
And among those documents were the the manuscripts of the New Testament in the original tongues that, had been hidden for centuries. And the Latin texts in the East, though, in the East, the Greek text was still the text in the West. The Latin ball gate is still the official Bible, not the original tongues, not, not the tongues the Bible was written in, but the, the translation into Latin of Jerome around April Well, in the West and the East, and that's still still the official Bible of the Babylonian church, Rome. Yes. But the, in the East, they were, they were speakers of Greek and they kept those manuscripts there, those, those, Greek manuscripts of the New Testament and of the Old Testament, they had the manuscripts there. Well, the the priesthood, the Babylonian priesthood of the church in the East got out before the Islamic Turks annihilated the city and murdered the inhabitants, they got out with those documents, and they but they more importantly and more directly to your question, they got out with the crown jewels of the Roman empire, which Constantine had moved to Constantinople.
And they escaped with those to a place called Moscow. Today, it's called Moscow or Moscow. And the powerful families in Moscow got it. And they said, ah, the crown jewels give the power of the ancient Roman Empire to us. And so the gods gave it to them. They took the crown jewels and, and, most powerful tribal leader called himself in Roman fashion, Caesar, and took the crown jewels, called himself Caesar. In Russia, it's pronounced czar. Correct. And the czars, of course, rule from that time up until World War I and those families. And they took on the Roman law. They got out with the code of Justinian. The code of Justinian is the code in its various forms that now rules almost every country in the world.
There's a German form that's very well known called the code of Bismarck, a French co code called the Poe Code Napoleon, and those codes are the code of Justinian tweaked a little. They put their name on it, these emperors like Bismarck and and, Napoleon put their names on it so people would think they were it was their code before. And that No no ego there. No. No ego. It's always that way with this. It's ruled by a single will. Well, the church of Rome had taken it on even before that in, in the eleventh century. They it was discovered, and that's when it became officially the canon law of the Church of Rome applied to an ecclesiastic purpose.
But Russia said, we are the reconstitution of the Roman Empire. Just like Hitler said, we are reconstitution of the Roman Empire. Actually, Bismarck said that because, Saxony retained the common law tradition that arose from that part of the world in in our in in history, anyway, retained that up until Bismarck in World War one. But it had seeped in in a lot of ways. And but the the our common law tradition, the unwritten custom, the law of the land, remained the the law of Saxony until very late. Martin Luther is the one that began its demise by telling the electors of Saxony that if they didn't take on the law of the Roman Empire, they wouldn't be able to fight Rome. It was a life death struggle. And he said, we need a martial law that enables you to do what you have to do to fight them. And so they took took on the Roman code at that time, and that's how it became the code of Bismarck. Of course, Bismarck took it on fully, and that was the reason for World War one and World War two.
I was just reading the other day about, of course, some of you have heard of the warrior code of the Japanese. Well, it's no small thing that the Japanese, the Japs took on the code of Bismarck of the German form of that code, and they had it from the late eighteen hundreds forward, but they mixed it with their religion, of course, which was easy to do because the code of Bismarck is Babylonian and their Shintoism and their warrior code is fully martial, Babylonian. And that's what the Babylonian code is. That's what all of the world is ruled by a martial form of law called called the law of the city. Well, they took it on, and it was their they they said, of course, the Japs said in their war against Russia, which was a core war in two war in powers, they they whooped Russia in naval conflict and won the war. Two warring powers that were under that, code. Of course, Russia was under the form of the code that came from Constantinople Mhmm. The Greek form.
And I didn't I didn't understand completely how how close Russia's tongue is to the Greek tongue until I got involved with a client that had a contract written in Russia with a Russian company, and he wanted me to look at it. I said, shucks. I don't read Russian. What are you talking about? And, but I got to look into the darn thing, and I said, that looks awful lot like Greek writing to me, and it does. Russian the Russian letters do look that way. And I I don't know the history of this, but I discovered, of course, we had to have it translated. I wasn't gonna depend upon
[00:21:49] Unknown:
my trying to decipher it to myself. You weren't gonna depend back on Google Translator?
[00:21:55] Unknown:
Oh, no. And although that's a good starting point, you know, you kinda get an idea. I can look at it and get an idea of what was going on, but it but, anyway, the the Japs then, they said that we are spirit. It was religious. And war is always religious. Always, always, always. God war is God's business for good or evil. Whatever happens, it's his business. And wars are fought over a a single religious question, and it's always the same. Who's gonna be the final arbiter of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal? That's what it always is. And Adolf Hitler said he was. He did. He at his command, men were executed in, in a lot of ways, individually and in mass.
That's because the code of Bismarck, the code of Justinian, that's the power that it purport purports to give to government, and the Japs had the same thing. And but they said, we don't have what America has. You know, the Japs and the Germans said it, but not to the degree because they still had Christian sensibilities. What an odd situation and a an important study to understand how the evil empire overtook a culture in Germany with Christian sensibilities. They did it with the code of Bismarck. God will not excuse men for allowing governments of men or men in their in their final capacity, a government by a single will. God won't excuse that. I don't care what your Christian sensibilities are. That's a violation and a usurpation of the Messiah himself.
Only the Messiah of God has authority to combine all three branches of government in himself, and Hitler did that. You go to the Bible, you see this traced through from the beginning of the Bible throughout. Why was king why was the kingdom ripped, as the prophet says, from Saul, king of Israel? It was ripped from him because he took on the judicial powers and the executive powers as king and the legislative powers. He took them on all three. And that's when, Nathan came to him and said, or was it Nathan? No, I don't think it was. I don't think it was. It was Samuel came to him and said, but you can go check, the kingdom I'm quoting.
It says the kingdom, but the the Hebrew text said the kingdom kingdom has been ripped from you. And Nathan was the one that's or Samuel was the one that stood before David. And I think he's the one that said that to Saul. You can go see. But that's when Saul lost the kingdom because he combined all three branches of government and himself. And we see that throughout the Bible. Will you do that now here on earth and God will judge your nation? And the Japs said, and they it was in everything they said that our spirit will overcome will overcome the mechanical technology of the Americans. They're cowards.
They're soft, and they depended upon the Banzai attack at close quarters as many of you know. Well, that didn't work against Thompson submachine guns and 12 gauge pump shotguns. And, Winchester had made all all about a one over well over a million and distributed to the American forces. What did the Americans wanna do? This is religion, friends. Now let's say, what did the Japs want to do? They taught their folk from being little. You die with honor. You never accept capture. We're not signing the Geneva Convention because it doesn't apply to us. We're not going to be taken prisoners. You are under orders to die than to be taken prisoner. If you have to kill yourself, do that. Commit Harry Carey. But you don't be taken prisoner. We're not signing the Geneva Convention, and our superior spirit at close quarters will destroy. And what did the Americans say? What did their religious culture? It's a culture thing. What is culture? Culture is religious culture? It's a culture thing. What is culture? Culture is religion externalized.
Culture is whatever you cultivate is your fundamental beliefs as a country externalized. What the Americans say? They said, no. No. No. We're, we believe we should live with honor, not die with honor. Death is inevitable. There's nothing honorable about death. Death is the mark of sin. If it wasn't for our sin, we wouldn't die. But God has decreed it, He's provided the remedy. That's our culture. Whether men understood it or not, that's what governed their thinking. And their idea, the old quote from Patton, is make the other poor SOB die for his country. Well, there's some truth in that. That's that's part of Christian culture.
But he, of course, he made it a little rougher in its presentation. But it's a matter of living with honor that the Americans are after or were after in their culture, whether they understood their Christianity and their Christian culture or not. The Japs wanted to die with honor. That doesn't work, and they died. And they did not die even with honor. And they came to that conclusion. They came to that conclusion. Once they faced the technology on the ground, and then they take tasted the technology from the skies at Okinawa, and then they tasted the technology from the skies with the nuclear bombs.
And they long before that, after Guadalcanal got rid of the religious point of view. They said this isn't working. It took about two years, but it finally, they figured it out and said this is not working. Of course, false religion never works. Dying with honor is not the goal of Christianity. The goal of Christianity is to live with honor, and it's the honor of Jesus Christ that he lends to us. We don't have our own. And if folk don't understand that, they will go off into this dying with honor baloney that Islam, all false religions are the same. In all false religions, you die with honor for your God. Yeah. In Christianity, your God dies for you.
That's the difference. And he gives you honor by his death. And that's, what our God amazing love, how can it be that thou, my God, shouldst die for me? 'Tis mystery all, the immortal dies. Who can explore the strange design? In vain, the firstborn seraph tries to plumb the depths of love divine. Amazing love, how can it be that thou my god shouldst die for me? That is contrary to law of Babylon, contrary to the fundamentals of the law of the city, and that is our common law tradition. Our common law tradition is a Christian tradition. It is the Christian tradition.
[00:28:40] Unknown:
That's what I understand about it. Roger, I'm prepared when you are comfortable. Well, I'm just here with my mouth kinda open because I've never heard that comparison before of dying with honor versus living with honor. It's really important. My mind is sitting here turning it over and looking at different parts of it. Very interesting. Thank you Yeah. So much for that. I mean, that just makes so much sense.
[00:29:02] Unknown:
Yeah. And all I'm doing is giving testimony, Roger, of what I learned with my experience with the Bible, but death is the badge of our dishonor. That's what it is in Christianity. Uh-huh. Why do we die in the day you sin, you die? Our grandma and grandpa Eve, our maker told them that. That's the badge of our dishonor. How do we gain honor? We gain it through the life that Jesus Christ gives to us. There is no other way.
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It's that or nothing. Go ahead. And and and and over in, Islam, you you you get 70 virgins.
[00:29:33] Unknown:
Yeah. You die with honor. You blow yourself up. Now how stupid is that? How stupid is that? Now the boys on Guadalcanal and Palau and and even as they went along the other island hopping they did, I know they weren't theologians. I know a lot of them didn't think that, but they were products of a Christian culture, and they probably didn't even know that. That's why Christian culture is so important, my friends. Well, how do you get it? You get it with a critical mass of Christian folk that live in a country, a critical mass. Don't think that politics is gonna change. Politics is all about majority rule. That's not gonna change anything, but there is a culture. Case in point, Charlie Kirk.
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Charlie Kirk
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You and I are on the same page. Go ahead. Charlie Kirk was funded by the evil empire. I don't think Charlie understood that. Charlie Kirk was a young man that had right ideas about law and government, and he taught them. But he was right about that. But he didn't understand the dangers of the evil empire, and there were evil people who funded him. And then when he began to question their doctrines, they said, woah ho, son. We made you famous. You turn code on us, we'll kill you. That's the way the evil empire works. Yeah. And Really? They killed him. And I think oh, go ahead, Roger. What's up? I was just gonna say, I just saw this morning some new new information on this. Yeah. I've said
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Candace Owens, was, of course, very close friends with Charlie Kirk. K? And she's got connections inside Turning Point USA. Uh-huh. And somebody flipped her a memo that he signed on September 7 concerning mainly the flow of cash through the organization. Uh-huh. And and not only to the point of where was it being spent, but where was it coming from? Yeah. And was he being used as some sort of a money laundering platform for these goons too? Mhmm. K. Now I don't know if you've seen I'll add let me add this and we can talk about it. We'll get maybe some audience too. Paul had something to say because we briefly touched on this right before the show.
Stu Peters. You're aware of him, I think. Who? A guy named Stu Peters. Oh, go ahead. No. I don't know him. He's from Minneapolis. He used to be a bounty hunter or some other stuff. He's very outspoken. He's very outspoken on the Jewish issue. And, Stu Peters has come up with, more than a theory, I guess, except I don't think you can see the video now, that, you know, Charlie had a lavalier microphone on. Uh-huh. And that this may have been the bullet with some sort of planted inside and engineered to where it would go off off the battery compartment of the lavalier microphone. That's why there's no blood spattering anywhere from a high power projectile.
And, I did not know that his entire security detail was Israeli. Did you know that?
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Well, that,
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figures in, though, doesn't it? Yeah. Doesn't it? Doesn't it, though?
[00:32:41] Unknown:
Yeah. The the Bible said Jesus Christ says, we have the record of it. Woe unto you when all men approve of you. Woe unto you. There's a problem there. If you're really telling the truth, I mean, the whole truth, not just part of it, people aren't gonna like you much. God will take care of you, and he may even take care of you very well. But don't think people are gonna like you. That ain't gonna happen. That's true. I guess I'm talking like an American. I would when I talk, I think, well, is is Paul from Yorkshire listening? I and I don't wanna offend his, proper King's English ears. Oh my god. No. No. No. I know I do probably.
Can't help it. I really appreciate them. We've said this before. When he comes on, I'm just I did my mouth goes open. I drop my jaw, and I listen. I said, okay. This is the way I'm supposed to talk. You know? That's he is he enunciates his words well. I have a friend who grew up in the middle and, near the Cartswald Skull. The the cart no. What do they call it? The carts carts? Oh, I forget how to say it now. It's in the middle, kinda in the middle, but toward the border of Wales. The Kartswold, W 0 L D, Scarp. That's it. The Kartswold Scarp.
And, and she is she corrects me. Close friend. Married to a fellow, I know. Close friend. She corrects me constantly on my my habit of not being precise in my pronunciation and hitting my consonants hard so that people can understand me. And I appreciate it because I know when I'm on the public platform, I want to be understood. I'm not down in the bottom lands on the Wabash River somewhere talking to the boys that live along the river. You know, they're lazy talkers, and I grew up that way. Somebody said to me the other day, it's not it's not Washington DC, Brent. It's Washington.
I said, well, it may be to you, but that's not the way I've always heard it. But I it's hard to get that out of your system. Yes. Of course, I'm old yeah. Old enough now. I don't I don't, worry about it too much. But I do want to be understood, Roger, and I do believe there's something to be said with distinct pronunciation. And it takes a lot of work, and you probably I'm guessing, Roger, you've been on the radio a lot in the old days. I'm sure you try to do that too or have tried to do it.
[00:35:09] Unknown:
I think it's funny sometimes to use the alternate pronunciations to make a point. Aluminium?
[00:35:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. No. I get that, Rob. I've done that. And it also it also infuriates
[00:35:20] Unknown:
myrrh. So it gives Oh, it does. A little satisfaction.
[00:35:24] Unknown:
You know? Well, my grandma used the she she never left.
[00:35:28] Unknown:
Go ahead. You wanna say something else? Well, Paul Both both pronunciations, aluminum and aluminum, are correct. It just depends Just depends on what part of the globe you're on.
[00:35:41] Unknown:
That's That reminds me that reminds me of the bailiff standing in the back of the courtroom. And, of course, it was a day when there wasn't anybody there, and there were a couple of people making arguments, couple lawyers. And the first lawyer stood up, and he was pounding the books and pounding the table and using everything from bathos to pathos to blasphemy, trying to make his point. And he persuaded the bailiff. He was just standing in the back, you know, at parade rest kinda but he had to be there. And he there was nobody else in the courtroom, and he said, out loud, he said, you know, I think you're right.
And then the other fella stood up, make his point, and he did the same thing. He was speaking with great animation and making his point. And, and the bailiff said, you know, I think you're right. And in the frustration, the judge blurted out, but they can't both be right. And and, the truth is that there's no pancake that's so thin. It doesn't have two sides. But I still say, one of those two pronunciations ought to be right. Long as you get the point across, it doesn't make any difference. But if you said it that fancy way, it sound like Latin, I would have known what you're I didn't know what you're talking about until you till Paul came on and told me. So I'd go for the aluminum just because that makes the point and people understand it.
[00:37:11] Unknown:
And I like to use the other one to throw them a curveball.
[00:37:15] Unknown:
What what's that?
[00:37:17] Unknown:
Aluminium. Aluminium.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Well, here's the thing, Roger. You make a point. Sometimes if you do it intelligently and discriminately, you can mispronounce a word just for fun just so peep it'll catch people's attention and Wait. What do you say? Yeah. I get your point. Like It's kinda like my Spanish. You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I get your boy. You you you had your dog. I know you've talked about your dog. When you talk to your dog and he looks at you and cocks his head Yeah. Well, that's what my Spanish does, on on other Spanish speakers many times. And Yeah. I just finally got to the point. I said, you know, it's better to have them remember me as that gringo that couldn't pronounce a word right. You know, a lawyer pronouncing it right, and they just go on about your way. You know?
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Yeah. Lawyers take particular delight in I've been places where they do. We're in mispronouncing the law of French words that are from England. You know? Like, well, there are a lot of them in our that we use today. Some of them encrypt in their language language, and we don't even know that they're law French. But, they take particular delight in doing it, and I do too. It's kinda fun. Pronounce some weird word and see if the other lawyers know what you're talking about. And there are words like that in our tradition. Mhmm. But, my grandmother, she'd never been away from home very far.
She lived to be very old, but she liked to read, and, she would see how words were printed, and she would pronounce them the way they were printed. So if she'd talk about Puget Sound, she called it Puget Sound. She talked about San Jose, she called it San Jose. Or San, the Santa Santa Fe Railroad, she called the Santa Fe. And she did it persistently. And once I tried to correct her, I don't think she believed me anyway. I was just a kid telling her, well, that ain't the way that ain't the way. She didn't like me to say that. She liked to be precise. That's why she pronounced it the way it was written. Her and old Hazel Guard lived up on the well, about a couple mile away from her. She was big on if somebody had a name, you don't pronounce a shortened form of it. Like, if your name is Steven
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Oh, nickname.
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You don't call him Steve. You know? Mhmm. He was really into that. Well, her aunt Hattie, and I knew aunt Hattie Bremner, she was that way too. And but she was school teacher, and so she was real. She was kind of a Nazi about stuff like that. Yeah. So people caught on to it. Well, Roger, did you have plans for today? Well, down here,
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it's funny. More so in Argentina, I think. Everybody's got a nickname. It's a short deal of their name. You know? Flavius, Flav, and and all that. It's really in the culture. So for what
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Well, where I grew up, that was in the culture too. I don't see it so much anymore, but all I I grew up with boys. My entire grown up year is Roger, and I still don't know their first name because we called them I was thinking just the other day about old Gooseberry Felipe. Everybody called him Gooseberry. I didn't know what his name was. Never asked. His dad people my dad called his dad Gooseberry, and everybody called him Gooseberry. And then, found out later some got well, we knew him. It was old, Fireball Taggart. There was another one. I don't know what Fireball's first name was.
But, fella came over to always come fishing. His name was Brewer. And, he'd bring he'd fish. He liked bluegill, Roger, and he'd catch a whole bucket full of them. You know? Right. Go fry them in a pan. Well, no. He'd give them to us. He didn't like to eat them. Funny thing. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So he'd and he'd he'd even help us. He liked to clean them. He'd catch them, clean them, give them to us. And he was in our pond. Well, he came over one day, and he said, where's Muldoon? I said, Muldoon, what are you talking about? He said his name was Shorty, by the way.
I don't know what his name was. Shorty Brewer. And, he said, we're in Muldoon. Is he around? I said, who's Muldoon? He said, your dad. I said, oh, I didn't oh, he said, you didn't know his name was Muldoon. That's what everybody always called your dad. Well, I hadn't been around his friends, see, that he grew up with and and, didn't know. But but that's the way it was around there, old Slug. We had a I grew up with a fellow named Slug Shover. I still don't know what his name is. He's still around. So I had to I understand that. I didn't know Spanish culture was that way.
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Yeah. Well, you get along with a lot of surprises down here on the Spanish culture, but it's kinda interesting, really. I was flashing on when you talking about bluegills. Did you take them home? Did you how did y'all cook bluegills? How'd you how'd your mama cook the bluegills for you? Well, you roll them in flour. Right. And then you fry them in lard. Right. Okay. Let me ask you a question. My mom's favorite part of that fish was the fins.
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Have you ever seen anybody crunch the fins of bluegill and perch? Oh, no. We did that too, Roger. We fried them up. Oh, they were so crisp. Oh, yeah. The bones would become crisp and you chew them up. Yeah. Okay. Swallow them. I just used to see my mom do that. I go, holy smokes. I'm that's one habit I'm not picking up from you. Well, you had to fry them. You had to fry them enough. But I'm of the opinion now if you do that, you're gonna get that calcium if you fry them up. It probably destroys a lot of other stuff, but and it's good for your gizzard. As dad said, you know, roughage is good for the gizzard. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the way we did them when we did mushrooms the same way, those, mushrooms.
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No. We don't have gizzards, do we?
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Who? Oh, no. No. No. That that was just a saying. Yeah. Good for the gizzards. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. I don't think I got a gizzard.
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I do like to because if I had a gizzard I've met I've met some people I thought I might have had one. But what, Paul?
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No. If I had a gizzard, I'd give it back to the chicken.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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You can buy those gizzards. Buy those gizzards cheap. Fry them up. They're pretty good.
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Well, Paul, why don't you, ring, big Paul's bell and see if he's available to come on and yak with us today because Brent just asked me a question. We had some stuff on the table here. We've been going over last few weeks, first time we've ever done this, at the request of a listener in Utah to go over the declaration of independence, which Brent we spent several shows on. I don't remember if we finished it or not. Oh, what came up? First. Okay. Well, what came up last week, though, that is well, I think particularly poignant at this time in place Uh-huh. Was, is stuff of financial and usury.
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Oh, that was that was a question from last week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And and all that's so appropriate. I mean, listen. We're right on the front end of some really horrendous financial activity and probably other stuff. It appears they're instituting the agenda of The US being in some sort of a civil war and and the financial stuff and all these things coming in at the same time. So and it it very well so whatever's coming may may happen before the end of the year, and we're going into next week on Wednesday, October, which is always traditionally the, volatile financial month in many ways and others. Of course, October is the devil's month, and they like that a lot. But, it's because the fiscal the federal fiscal budget is, comes and gets renewed at the September, I believe.
And, also, all the corporations' earning statements come out for the third quarter. And you've got those two things plus whatever chicanery they wanna play into this. I mean, it's just an unbelievable mess they've set up here to try and con yeah. Effect the continuation of their funny money. We get all the usury the the vigorous, they call it. I don't know if you knew that, Brent. All the vigorous is theirs. Oh, boy. And and we get stuck with the with the refuge. Anyway, it's a it's a hell of an important time. It's a really important subject for everybody. And, this is the main part of it is usury. I mean, what's their whole deal?
Their whole deal is to just like they said, the leaven of the Pharisees, they're gonna leaven up all this debt. They're gonna get you enslaved and have you build it, and they're gonna stick you with the debt, and they're gonna walk away fat and happy with trillions of leavened proceeds. But, all of their proceeds and their the fruit of their labor and their leaven, Brent, is all based on fraud Well Which means it's not it's not applicable. So these are the things that are floating around in the background, and we're at that time, and that was brought up last week. We've it's a one of my favorite subjects. Hold on just a second, Gere. And so that was where I would like to, if we we could, plunge down there. So noodle on that for a second, Brent. If you would, let me turn to Gary because he's off in the mountains working out there in Montana.
Gary, how are you doing?
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Oh, I'm fine. Yeah. I'm siding the house up in the mountains in Lakeside, Montana. What I was really interested in is the Bible talks about gold and silver. Bible talks about no usury. And my thing is wanting to know if Brent could enlighten us on the historical facts of how they convinced the Christian community. Because a hundred years ago, we were a lot more Christian than we are today. Yeah. How they convinced the Christian community to go along with usury and getting rid of gold and silver. So that's it. I'm gonna get back to work and listen to you guys. Thank you. Oh, sounds mighty sounds mighty pretty up there. Gary, Gary, before you just run off and go concentrate on the siding.
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Where did you say you are? Lakeside?
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Yep. Lakeside, Montana.
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Oh, okay. Now, Gary, have you been listening for a long time?
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Well, yeah. I've been listening to Roger for, what, ten years, Roger, at least? At least. At least.
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Gary, are you are you near Flathead Lake? Is that where that is?
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Well, it's sitting right on the edge of Flathead Lake. I can see the lake from where I'm standing.
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Okay, Gary. Were you, did you have a some kind of a bad spell not too long ago, not too many months ago, and you were in the hospital?
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Yep. Year ago. Year ago in July. I was in the ICU for seven days.
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Yeah. And but you got over it.
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So far, the Lord's been good to me. I've got over it. Yes.
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What what what was it? Are you at liberty to say? Because I was I thought about you the other day, Gary, because you came on and talked about it some, and I thought what happened to that guy? And I tell you, I prayed. I said, I hope he got over it. And I'd then now I'm putting it together. You know?
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Uh-huh. A severe a severe allergic reaction to western red cedar. That is a highly toxic sawdust. And I was cutting that indoors indoors for four weeks, did not know that, and, my body, subjected itself to that toxicity of that wood. Goodness. You're kidding me. Nope. Western red cedar is a highly toxic wood.
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Of course, I know that now.
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Yeah. I didn't know it did.
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Right. At that time, you said, I don't know. You talked to us on the phone, and you said, I nobody knows what's wrong with me, and they can't find out. Apparently, somehow, somebody found out. How did they do it?
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Well, we've got a good buddy down there in Georgia named Harvey.
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Oh. And that good
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that good buddy got me on a detox program that has cured my pancreatitis and has made me feel a whole lot better because, evidently, some toxic effects of that wood was still in my system until he got me on a detox system. And if you think about it Yeah. If you think if you think about it, western red cedar is impervious to bugs. It's impervious to rot. So it's gotta be something in there that's very toxic.
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Just like Cyprus. Yep. I mean, that stuff will last a 100 people. I'd I'd like to say God bless Harvey Wysong, my dear old friend, and his whole family who, his his older brother's got is well, he has got a real severe case of glioblastoma, if you don't know what that is. It's a deadly, very fast growing brain cancer, probably comes from some of the polio vaccines years ago. And Charlie, his older brother, he's the one that's gone out and fought abortion his whole life, gotten all kinds of trouble, you know, fighting and trying to close down abortion clinics and all that. He's got 15 children and four 45, probably got 50 now, for at least 45 grandchildren.
So, that he's, I've I talked to him once a few weeks ago. He's doing good, but he's spending an awful lot of time with Charlie.
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Oh, well, I'm glad to hear that too, Roger. I wondered what happened to him. Thank you, Gary, for calling in. Do me a favor, and I'll I'm gonna talk about usually, but do me a favor. Will you promise me you'll go to the that you'll email me, at go to the website commonlawyer.com commonlawyer.com and email me.
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So, Gary, did the other folks in construction around there, when you queried them about this? Were they aware of the potential backlash of red cedar? Western red cedar, I think you call it?
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Yes. Found out from a contractor that's been contracting up here for a long time, and he actually had some of his workers get affected by it. And we talked, and he told me about it. Then I had another young man that's a buddy of mine. Actually, he's a national and in the went to my classes. It affected him. He ended up in the emergency room with it.
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Wow. Gary. Gary, did you hear me when I asked if you would email me?
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Yeah, Brent. I'll be happy to do that. It'll it probably won't be till Monday, though. Yeah. I'm up on-site of the mountain range.
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Yeah. Go to commonlawyer.com. Please do that. I wanna I wanna
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check-in with you. But, anyway, let me get to usury, if I may. Yeah. Let's launch down that path. Thank you, Gary. We're sure glad that Harvey, got you cured, Betty.
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Yeah. Well,
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a lot better than a lot better than all them doctors they sent me to. Let me tell you that much.
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Did you go to the doctors and give them this information as feedback or not?
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Yes. I did. Okay. The cardiologist. They thought I had heart failure and heart attack and everything else. So I'll be darned. Come to find out it was not
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Well, his partner, Gina, is right there by his side the whole time, so give her our best too. Alright?
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Well, Gary, she
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She can hear you. She's down on her knee digging some rocks out right now. Okay. Well, that's good. Keep her working. There you go.
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Alright. Bye.
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See you later. No. He's gone. Joan, he's gone. What would you what
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I was gonna ask What do you think Well, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No. I'm him, what did the doctor say when after Gary told him it was from the western red cedar? And, also, I wanted to ask him his student, his national student. He probably was not stowing red cedar in the closed room, and so I was wondering how he got the toxic reaction from the red cedar. Thank you.
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Bye. Gary, did you hear that? I think he's gone, Joan. And what those are That's an interesting question. I'd like to know a little bit more about that too. It's quite interesting. And I wonder with its, potential toxicity, is it something you'd use, like, inside a home for walls or floors or something?
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Yeah. You can. You can. When it's up on the walls and stuff, it won't hurt you. It's the sawdust that you breathe in while you're covered. And I I cut it for four weeks and trim and did a whole basement in the trim, walls, everything, and thought I was just getting a head cold Yeah. Until until the attack happened.
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Boy, you just never know, do you? That is really interesting, Gary. Yeah. Thanks. I know that. Did John did you hear John did you hear John's questions, Gary?
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Yeah. The young man that was doing it, he was doing it a deck, an outside deck, and come down with the same toxicity.
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Yeah. Yikes outside. He was cutting it.
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Yep. So you definitely if you ever cut western red cedar, please make sure you wear a mask.
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Yeah. Make sure you need that 90 five mask.
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Yeah. You don't wanna breathe the sawdust.
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Wow. Gary, what about, what did the doctor say when you what did the doctor say when you told him it was red cedar dust?
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Well, they didn't really believe me at first till they started looking it up and finding out how toxic it was.
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Oh. I'll be darned. All they wanna
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do all they wanna do is give you a pill. Go home and take these pills.
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Right. I got my golf games in thirty minutes.
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Harvey did not know it was red cedar. Right? He just said, oh, do a detox.
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Right? Yeah. No. Harvey knew Harvey was an old woodworker who's worked with wood for years. That's what he had. Yeah. What happened. Really? He knew exactly what happened to me.
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Harvey's one of the most amazing people I've ever met in my entire lifetime, I'm a tell you. And his whole family is just rock solid with these kind of virtues and morals. And, I'm sorry we don't get to have him around here as much as we used to. He's just a a really unique individual. So Alright.
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You guys have a good day. I need to get back to work at this house site. Buddy. Okay.
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Well, take a view of the vista for us. I know it's just stunning. On the usury, Brent.
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Yeah. On the usury. I'm gonna be checking this information. I'm taking this information from the winterized translation of the Bible from the original tongues. And this is appendix number 59. And in this appendix, the the footnotes, you know, are more attuned to whatever is right there, but the appendices, and there are over two hundred two hundred of them, trace major themes through the warp and the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible. And this appendix number 59 is about usury. Because usury is a theme that is of of evil that's woven throughout the bible. And so it's not like we're lost to know about it, but to give some parameters right in the very beginning.
Two things. If you understand these two things about usury, everything else falls in place more easily. And two fundamental things that control and understand. Number one, when a bank lends money, when it doesn't really lend it, it's giving money to somebody, they're not giving you other people's money, the people that have deposited money in the bank. They're giving you their money.
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Yep. Because never sir that has never circulated previously.
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Yeah. But their money or that the money is in the bank. When you put money in a bank, you're transferring title and ownership of that money to the bank. It's no longer yours. Under a contract, that they will obey your orders when you ask them to give money to somebody else through a check or there's a contract there, whatever it is. But they own the money, not you. You're and when they loan it, they're not lending it. They're transferring transferring title and ownership to whoever they give it to, and they call it a loan. It's not. And the proof of that, of course, is that they give it to people, money, under a contract to spend it for a specific thing, like to buy a house or to buy a car. So then you if you get that money from the bank, you transfer title and ownership Okay. To whoever you're buying the car from or the house.
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Brent, can I inject here and and Sure? Sure. Some dialogue? Because this is my understanding. That's the way that was when mister Smith goes to Washington. Right? Yeah. The old the old movie of all you Uh-huh. You take the people in the town's money, you lend it back out for mortgages. There were never thirty year mortgages. They, limited it to ten. And they and they service the paper. Well, that's not the way it works anymore. You created the money, if you will call it that, when you signed the promissory note.
You promise to pay so many payments and so much principal and so much interest for such a length of time. Then they take that. So that creates the income stream. You committed to it. So they take that contract back to the financial institution, and they put it on the liability side of the ledger, not the asset, the liability. Then they take it and discount it into the secondary market. And when they get the proceeds from that, they bring that back and put it on the asset side of the ledger to balance the books out. So technically, they don't lend money. There is no money. There's only credit.
Well, then you have oh, go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say this is this Tom Schoff. I don't know if you and I have ever even discussed this before. Where this where this came from. K? I used to stay up late night and listen to WWCR because that's the only place you could get this information. And, with the, well, it's there. And with the, I'm gonna memory peg WWCR. Paul, where are you, Paul? Can you come back and see? I do. Okay.
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Thank you. Hope you learned something out of that first hour anyway on WWCR because it's the only place you used to could find this information. And Yeah. Uh-huh. I was sitting on there. I used to listen to this one real late night show, and I was up till the middle of the night, two, three in the morning listening to this guy. And he had a guest on, and he was his name was Tom Schaff, and he was from Chicago. And he was a CPA who had somehow figured out how he could qualify to do expert forensic testimony, accounting testimony.
And so when he got in there, you know, to make the big bucks. Right? And so when he got in there doing that, he discovered that there was no institution in the country that accredited CPAs to become expert witnesses. So he started a school up there in Chicago, and he was training CPAs from all over the country. One of his students was a federal bank regulator. And he pulls Tom off to the side, and he says, every loan in America is a fraud. And the expert witness, CPA says, what are you talking about? And he says, let me show you what they're doing. This is it. They take the promissory note. That creates the paper. That's why they say, pieces of green Federal Reserve notes become monetized.
The only way they're monetized is when they fulfill a loan requirement. So it's it's Federal Reserve notes that have never been circulated that are in a warehouse, and the loan monetizes them. What does that mean? It attaches compound interest to them. So, that's what they do. They take the promissory note. They put it on the liability side. They discount it. They bring the proceeds back, and they pay the, whoever the business is. Now I found a while back, Brent, a really cogent quote here from none other than TJ Thomas Jefferson. And he understood this because his quote was no discounting of notes.
See, if you quit discounting the notes, it'd stop it right there, and it'd revert back to the way it used to be. But this is their little wrinkle and their whole deal. Well well, yeah, man. Everything's credit.
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We're teaching a class here, Roger. I'm I'm gonna record it, and I'll teach it here locally. And I hope to live stream it. I'm thinking about that too. And it's a class on, common law trust and gold. And the things you're talking about see, the simplicity of wealth, all all what you talked about, gymnastics, doublespeak, Nobody understands it because it's senseless, frankly. Fraud, it's sent it just it looks like it's important. I understand it. The experts understand it. There's nothing there, friends. It's just a lot of hooey. What Roger was talking about, that's what they say, but it's not true. Go ahead, Rogers. It's illusion. It's the solution these people create, and that's their great talent, Brent,
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is the the the world's greatest illusions. All the great all the great music magicians, Houdini, Copperfield, all of them are Jewish.
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Yeah. But if you I know. If you if anybody thinks they understood what Roger said, you're deceived because there isn't any understanding it. Roger kinda he knows what they say. He's got it in his wheelhouse. He can talk about it. But I like to focus on the simplicity of just a couple of things. Number one, a bank does not loan you, does not loan money. It gives it to you, and it transfers title and ownership. And, that's the important thing. And number two, usury, properly defined, will explain it. Our usury is the giving of one person or one entity to another, one person to another, of a consumable item of a consumable item with a surcharge.
Now if you say, oh, it's money given on interest. No. That's not it. You gotta say it right. It is a money given that is a consumable item under a contract to consume with the intention that it be consumed on with a surcharge on top. That's what it is. So if I loan you, if you go to the end of Hertz Rent a Car and and borrow a car, you're borrowing the car. They don't give you a title and ownership of the car. But when you take money from a bank, they're transferring title and ownership to you and using banking words like loan. That's a that's a lie. It's a lie from hell. It is. That's all it is. But when you borrow a car, they don't tell you, well, now you own the car or you buy borrow a power tool at a at a equipment lease place, you're actually they're loaning it to you. You bring it back. It's worthless for wear and tear. Therefore, they charge you a fee for doing that. That's lawful. That's not unbiblical.
But to give a consumable item, that's the number one thing. What's consumable? Well, fundamentally, the only thing that is consumable is money and food. And, Roger, I I think I told this maybe here. I don't remember. I'll tell it again. I first came into full contact with this and ended up then going to court over it in two cases, one in the appellate courts in the state of Washington and another one back home in a small rural county against a a local bank that was worth, of course, hundreds of millions. But when I first came into contact with this, I was in law school. And I like to go back when we law was on books, and it wasn't on the computer. You could read the cases in books, of course. Right. I would go to the go to the library, and I would sit and read the cases from the earliest days in America.
And I'm talking early days. I'm talking 1620 to 1650 Yikes. When the pure in Puritan, New England, the common law courts. And I read a case where the lieutenant governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony loaned 10 bushels of corn to a fella who needed it to get through the winter. He didn't have enough. He found out. He borrowed 10 or didn't borrow. He gave it to him. We we say it's a loan, but it really isn't. And he said, I'll loan it to you. I made a contract written out, but after harvest next year, you have to give me 12 bushels. So he it's a consumable item.
Food. He needed it. He was going to consume it. Both parties understood that. And what he gave him back in payment was not what he was so called what was so called loaned to him. He gave him back other corn, not that corn. See, if you borrow something, you get the same thing back. So what does, the banker and the user say, oh, we've got this stuff called a commodity and it's fungible. A bushel of corn next year is the same thing. It's the same thing as a bushel of corn last year. An ounce of gold here is the same thing of an ounce of gold there. An ounce of silver is is the same thing. If I give you this ounce of silver, that substitutes for that ounce of silver. It's they call it being fungible. That's a fancy word. They always use fancy words because nobody knows what they mean. But it sounds ostentatious and people say, oh, that's that's something the bankers understand. I'm gonna learn how to do that too. And all you're learning is fraud and they call it a commodity.
Oh, what's a commodity? It's well, if I have a and we used to do this at home. And by the way, grain is a good way to illustrate this. Yeah. We didn't have grain storage when I was a boy at home. We ended up building it later. It became popular. We could hold our grain and then sell it when the market got higher instead of taking it straight to the elevator right out of the field. I used to drive back and forth and back and forth with a tractor, pulling a wagon. Reason I did that, Roger, was I wasn't old enough to have a driver's license, and all the boys my age that were 12, 13, 14 were driving tractors, pulling flare flare wagons to town, full of grain.
Nobody stopped to ask us if we had a driver's license. Now if you drove a pickup truck, they might stop. Yeah. You know? But we'd do that. We'd drive to town. We'd wait in long lines. Roger, I remember waiting in line to unload our grain. All the farmers in harvest, didn't have any storage, and they were stuck with whatever the elevator would give them. And And they had no place to put it. They'd haul it to town and sell it. And I'd be in line along the side of the road there where the grain elevator was for an hour, hour and a half, longer even, waiting to unload my wagon.
And then they'd give you whatever they were paying that day, and you didn't have any bargaining power at all. Well, when men built bins. But before that, dad, he would sometimes have grain, and the guy in town, the elevator operator, he would he built great big bins. And he said, if you wanna store your grain, I can store it for a a decent price, and maybe we can get it you can get a better, a better, better price on it later. Yeah. Higher price. Well, if you put 5,000 bushels of corn or wheat in, in storage, when they sold it, they sold, 5,000 bushels that was all mingled together.
My dad's 5,000 bushels, you didn't know where it was anymore. It's what in law we call it commingling. A trustee, by the way, is not allowed to do that. That's a crime. Can be a crime. Commingling funds, you keep things separate. But with fungible items like grain, gold, money, you can commingle it. It's all the same, they say. Well, that's really not true. And some corn's better than others, frankly. But if, the market's paying x dollars a bushel, that that's just the way the that's the way you started. There by the way, Roger, if you go to the Internet, I wish I could interview this guy. He is a professor of economics, very conservative. And so he got a professorship job and he got his PhD at, at the Bob Jones University down in, South Carolina. Yeah. Or, you know, art conservative Baptist, you know, fundamentalist Baptist.
Well, and he got to saying things they didn't like. They finally got rid of him. But there was a time back in the seventies and eighties when he traveled around and lectured. And Roger, I heard about him because Pete Peters had him to his church at La Porte. What was his name? Don't remember. I need to find out. And I need to find out if he's alive and we need to interview him. But at any rate, what he does, he illustrates banking by using the analogy I just used of storing grain, commingling grain, storing it at the elevator. He carries it out in every detail and it's exactly the same. The principles are exactly the same.
But that those are the two things. Number one, when you borrow money, so called borrowing, it's not borrowing the money and the money. It doesn't belong to the people that put their money in the bank. It, the bank has title and ownership of the money and they, they give it to you and transfer title and ownership of the money. And secondly, usury has to do with, giving an item that is intended to be consumed. If it's not intended to be consumed, there's no usury. But let me say this. I haven't got to the article yet. I, well, things I'm saying are in the article, but that in the winterized version of the Bible, this is the way it starts out usury viper and scorpion sting Because the words, the one of the words, the most often used word for usury in the bible is a word that means to put vipers or scorpions on the neck and back of somebody.
That's what it means. And it's the word appears at the at the creation account and the creation of our grandma and grandpa Adam and Eve. And when the serpent came into the garden, Roger, he talked, it says, he talked to our grandma and he horn swaggled our poor grandma. She was innocent as the bible says in the new testament. She was innocent. Her husband wasn't. She really was fooled. And God doesn't hold her accountable like he holds Adam accountable because Adam went along with his wife, and that was the great crime because he knew exactly what he was doing. She didn't. And she, the Bible says in the New Testament, had less discernment than the male.
The male has more discernment according to the bible, according to the new testament, according to the old testament, than the female. But she was taken in by the user, by his smooth talk and his fraud. And the word that's used there for what the serpent did in the garden is the same word that's used throughout the law of God in the Old Testament for usury. I'm reading now from the from this appendix appendix 59, the winterized version of the bible, except as an act of warfare against declared enemies, God forbids usury as outright slavery to all mankind and all times. Usury in the bible and slavery are equated often because to the bible says, for example, in Proverbs, the borrower, which isn't that's a bad translation. He's not a borrower, as I said a while ago. He gets title and ownership for the money that the user gives to him. But it says that that man is slave to the lender.
That's point blank, the statement, but it's throughout the bible. And also so usury is slavery and has to do with the vipers and the scorpions sting. Indeed, the borrower is slave to the lender. I quoted here. Accordingly, God forbids usury to one's countrymen at all times. Enemies? Yeah. Usury is a tool of warfare, my friends, and it's being used on us in America. Has been used in the English speaking world since the time of Oliver Cromwell, Oliver Cromwell, it was used. It was just unlawful until Cromwell during the reformation. And, Gary had asked about that. How did it get into our into our country? Well, it came from England, but it wasn't in England until Cromwell in the sixteen hundreds.
[01:15:15] Unknown:
Before that Sorry about that, everyone.
[01:15:18] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. What? Yeah. My goodness gracious. Sorry about Cromwell, Brent. Sorry. Pleasure in word. We blame we blame you personally. Well, we don't I think you should. Well I think you should. I don't want you to I don't wanna hold that against you. If I did, I'd be like the Japs that hold the atomic bomb against me today. I don't wanna do that. But it is it is more devastating than than the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And in all of Europe, it was told at that time, the the the, scourge I had to find the right word, not plague. They use the word scourge of all mankind. Well, now that you're here, Paul, did you want to weigh in?
[01:16:01] Unknown:
There was just a little thought that runs from my head when you were talking about it as, a weapon of warfare. One of the aspects of it that I'm aware of is that when a a walled city or town or whatever was under siege Mhmm. The, the external army would go over there and have a chat with them at the gates. They say, look. If you open the gates, sir, we'll forgive all your debts. Woah. They use it they used to use it that way. They'd say, all the things that you owe, well, it's clean slate. Just come over to our side, really, not leave gates up because we're getting killed out here. So it's quite an interesting way of applying it. But, yeah, I Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm familiar with that. It really is a weapon of warfare. It's just applied to us during civilian, so called civilized life, which of course is anything but yeah. And when I say a weapon of warfare, I mean God
[01:16:48] Unknown:
in the Bible. The record of what he says, he tells his people, you can this is warfare you can use against your enemies, but you're not to use it against your countrymen. That's Mhmm. No. You don't do that. So I didn't mean it just a weapon of warfare of the evil empire. Oh, they use it. But God said for his people, it's a weapon of warfare. The borrowers slave to accordingly. God forbids usury to one's countrymen at all times. I'm still reading from this, appendix 59. Further, all pretended justification for allowing usury has proven destructive to freedom.
Deuteronomy chapter twenty three nineteen forbids usury of not only money, but also of any other kind of, consumable property. Jesus Christ condemned those practicing it and that's you can see in Matthew twenty-one 12 of course the cleansing of the temple when he put together the bullwhip as we say here in The States and drove them out that was all about usury. Magna Carta chapters ten and eleven outlaw usury. And you can see John also eleven fifteen and accompanying note discussing John's use that's accompanying note in the winterized translation of the Bible discussing John's use of the Greek word for usury and, and what we can unpack from that word.
Well, the Bible words for usury are significant. As Roger and I used to say when we first started coming together on this platform, this is the Tasmanian Word Association Hour. And we're if men lose their their the meanings of words, they lose their lives, their liberties, and their properties. And when it comes right down to it, friends, it's all about words. Yep. That's been our salvation with God's people. It's comes by words, and that's been our destruction that came through the devil. And as, I'm gonna quote a Jewish fella from England, and I'd be interested to know what you know about or think about him, Paul. His name was Disraeli.
I don't know how he became prime minister, but he's the one that said God governs with words. And is it any any any, mystery that the one the creatures that are made out of his imagination, out of God's imagination, of his mind in his image, also govern with words. We do govern with words, friends. And it is the words of God that we are to govern with as much as we can possibly do it. So let's look at this. Oh, by the way, Disraeli, I mentioned him. Do you wanna make a comment about that, Paul?
[01:19:32] Unknown:
I was just thinking that I I can't prove any of this, but I suspect he got in because he had quite a bit of help from his banking friends. Yeah. Not at all. And, also, you know, that's what I would imagine. Also, there was that thing, he wrote that novel, didn't he? What is it? Coningsby, which, there's a line in that. I've forgotten the name of the lead character in it, but it's kind of a thinly veiled pastiche of, of Lord Rothschild at the time. What's his name? Anyways, a wheeler and dealer in London, and this was in a novel that Disraeli wrote. And one of the things that this character says at some sort of soiree or whatever is that the world is governed by persons other than those that everybody's aware of. I just completely mangled that up. But, basically, that's what he the world is not governed by the people you think it's governed by. It's governed by others.
The deep state, in other words. He was Yeah. Yeah. He's always been with us. I think he's always been with us. They didn't call it the deep state back then Uh-huh. Whatever they called it. But, yeah, it's always been there. The the the real super wordsmiths of a particularly dark hue.
[01:20:43] Unknown:
So Was it was it Montague Norman that said bankers run the world, and if you take the power of the pen away from them, they will they will recreate it again or something to that effect?
[01:20:55] Unknown:
Yeah. That was, sir sir Josiah Stamp who, became the governor of the Bank of England. Yeah. He he whenever they retire, they always spill their guts and start telling the truth. Whilst they're in the system, you can't get a word out of them. Yeah. But once they're sort of free of it or were back then, then they'll tell you, oh, this is a terrible system. You know? You really don't want this. You've just been managing it over us for the last thirty five years. Thank you very much. You know? Yeah. But, yeah, they do. They they nearly always confess.
[01:21:26] Unknown:
I'd bet you guys haven't heard either one of you. I'm gonna take us just a little sidebar for a second. The what they found, they found a guy in the airport that was a former FBI in investigator back in the early two thousands. And he was the guy that did all the investigations of talking to all the witnesses that were first uncovered in the Jerry Epstein first round in South Florida. And and he quit the FBI's contractor with him now and a bunch of other stuff, but he came out and said, well, there were rapes on the planes, and that what they're hiding is that Bill Clinton was involved in that. And he said Trump was never in a plane with any like that. They were flying from New York to Palm Beach because his plane was in the shop or something.
But that came out. Well, man, when that hit, now the justice department is coming. Oh, this guy has never been associated with this. He was a minor. This or that or the other. So, and and it was a conversation, Brent, in an airport. Somebody got he shot had a big, a bag with a big FBI thing on it they showed, and it just came up. And here's a guy spilling his guts on all this in some airport. Mhmm. Never believing that what he's saying is gonna get,
[01:22:45] Unknown:
James O'Keefe, you know, which is who broke this, by the way. But only the people that have ears to hear will hear it and pay attention. And that's usually the the remnant. Well, it is. It's the minority. The ones whose minds are enlightened to the truth and We're truth seekers. Well, yeah. The first word the first word in the Bible used to signify usury is nasak. And that's the one that's used in the creation account in Genesis. And it signifies by the letters, it's a Hebrew word, money with a viper stinging bite and crippling effect. A giving of food or money, see those are the two consumable items that cover most usury, food or money for consumption, Transferring ownership of legal title such as money given on a surcharge that is the worth of the what is given to be paid back with an additional fee.
The bite of usury exacting interest on a consumable money. The word also describes the money changers practice of collecting a fee for exchanging one current currency for another. Again, likening to the stinging strike of a viper snake. Right. The second Hebrew word translated usury is tervath. Now these are the two most prominent ones. Stressing multiplication, that is contracted a guaranteed surcharge in addition to money invested. Let me stop right there and make a comment about synonyms. We, most of us, have an idea what a synonym is, but I like to be a little more precise and say, well, a synonym is a a word or let's say two synonyms or words that refer to signify the same thing, but stress a different aspect of the same thing.
So when I'm talking about these words, I'm talking about words that signify usury but stress a different aspect of usury. This one stresses the multiplication of usury, a contract and surcharge in addition to money invested, return on investment principle increase of unjust gain. The Hebrew word is not used here to denote common law partnership investments, for example, losses. If you enter a common law partnership, a lot of people are in common law, what we call a common law partnership, without any formal agreement in writing or even verbally. And they just know they they go into business together, and they they're gonna share profits and losses, to any degree, but usually it's fifty fifty.
Well, that's a common law partnership, and it can be very dangerous if there's ever a problem. You go to court, because a partnership is a mutual agency. I'm your agent with authority to bind you in contract, and you are my agent with authority to bind me in contract. And that, friends, is dangerous. That's why people say be careful not to do that. Yeah. But but there's nothing wrong with a partnership legally. And if you enter into one, you're sharing profits and losses. Remember, the bank sews it up so they don't when they give money to somebody called a loan, you're hawked up three times what it's worth usually. You have to prove that you don't need the loan just to get it. That's really what happens.
Well, you can sell something if you need the need the money to have the money you want. Well, let me stop right there and ask Roger or Paul if they have more comments. I know you both looked into this matter pretty lightly.
[01:26:07] Unknown:
Well, I think the whole thing with loans we were talking about something, yesterday. I don't know if Paul's mentioned it on the show. I came across this article earlier in the week, September 23, called How the World Was Saved When They Tried to Crash It in 02/2008. Mhmm. And it's an astonishing tale. It it really is astonishing, and it taps into all of the, linguistic and financial skullduggery that you would imagine. Mhmm. And it's to do with where the money comes from in the loans. And I've described it that I mean, there's all sorts of ways of describing it. One of the descriptions is that when you put your signature to that paper, you are the one that's generating the money. That's true. It's just that in the moment, you don't believe that you are because Yep. The bank manager sat there with his pocket watch and everything, and they've got everything ticking on. He's got all these lovely paper, and it's all great. And you go, well, he's obviously in charge, but, actually, he isn't. Without your signature, they can't do it. And one of the things that's in this story is about, do you have a thing called a trust deposit account? You've probably heard about this sort of stuff. I have for years. Mhmm. What this article says is that you do, if the article is correct. Because what occurred was, the guy that's been interviewed goes under the handle of ex marine, I think, just to protect his identity. This is only about a week old, something like that.
And he's talking about, his partner called Claude, and they started to issue bonds. They got standing. Mhmm. Another one of those words, right, that we don't that I don't fully understand. I mean, I real I look at all these different words, this array of words, and I'm going It generally is only a it's generally only applicable in America. That's what I've heard Barnes say, just to let you know, standing.
[01:28:06] Unknown:
You've got some, some stake of the game where you can go into court. But, basically, it's all shut up. You know? No. No. It's,
[01:28:17] Unknown:
I think it may apply here as well if this article is anything to go by because the two systems of The US and the dung hole where I live in are intertwined, as you would imagine, right at the very roots. They're the same sort of, you know, appalling thing. Mhmm. And, so you remember in 02/2008, long term capital management was flushing the whole economy down the toilet or whatever. Everybody was kind of leveraged, there's that other word, up to the nines with all these subprime mortgages. Yeah. What ticket wasn't necessarily subprime. They had gone the wrong way on Russian bonds.
[01:28:51] Unknown:
Mhmm. That was what was again, that's when everybody was called up to Connecticut for the weekend to try and save the financial system, basically. May have been some subprime. That was around the same time, but I I've heard specifically it was they'd gone the wrong bet on Russian bonds for whatever that's worth.
[01:29:11] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I'm skipping around on this article, Roger, because it it really would need to be read out. The interview is about twenty five minutes long, and we can't do that here. But, for example, you've got the debt clock that's running wherever it's running. It says $37,000,000,000,000. Right? Mhmm. But that's not money. That's currency. And it's to do with this over yet again, why have we got two words for we think or the layman thinks is the same thing? Well, they're not the same thing. Mhmm. And I'm confronting my sort of level of stupidity once more. It's a never ending process, isn't it? It never ends. Yeah. After stupidity, it's just that you've been lied to and these things have been covered up from us. Mhmm. Well, you get to a point you get you get a breakthrough. You go, wow. That's it. And then five years go by, you go, oh, that actually wasn't it. This this more skullduggery to go. And it never seems to end because, you know, they've got a lot of money to to pay for further further documents and all this kind of stuff. But that debt clock, the 37,000,000,000,000, is not money that's owed to to, by you.
It's it's currency that's owed to you.
[01:30:19] Unknown:
Correct?
[01:30:21] Unknown:
So all of these debts in the world that nations apparently have that we, communicated the economies in a terrible way, all this kind of stuff, it's a complete bogus Yep. Sort of film over the real substance of the whole thing. Illusion. It's an illusion. It is. It's a very good one, though. It might as well be real. It's that strong, if you know what I mean. I I agree with you. Yeah. It is because you you dig into it. But, in 02/2008, what happened was there was a press conference where Henry Paulson and George w Bush, who was your president at the time Mhmm. When this thing was tanking, they said, oh Yep. We found $3,000,000,000,000 that we didn't know we had. Yeah. This is true.
What this article is about is where that $3,000,000,000,000 came from. And it came from this guy, Claude, in Los Angeles and his two sons using a Brother printer. You remember Brother printers? Those little yeah? He literally printed out 300 bonds at $10,000,000,000 each, and they filed them with the Treasury, and they were accepted. They went in. And that was the $3,000,000,000,000 that basically saved, I would suggest, the whole world from going into breadline despondency because it would have happened. It would have absolutely tanked everywhere. The ripple effect, the domino effect would have been unbelievable. Mhmm. So and and the reason they were able to do it is that they discovered, that what it says here, going forward, he and his study partner both learned how to revoke this is in your bailiwick, Roger, how to revoke legal title from The US attorney general. I guess that's what USAG means, right? Yes. Operating as common law trustee and to get themselves and other parties standing to access their Treasury direct accounts that are defined in 31 c f r three six three point six, whatever that might be. Okay?
In other words, there is this colossal trust and you actually what they're also saying is you only actually have one bank account. Everybody only has one, which is this thing that's held at the TreasuryDirect account, but you have been misled to believe that that it they're in charge of it. It's like the administration team with their fine suits and everything are stood in front of you, basically dealing with your resources. Mhmm. It's an astonishing tale. I mean, there was even a printout of the the sheet of paper where they just wrote 300 lines at $10,000,000,000, and, they on the day they went to they went up to the Treasury Office, and they met a guy. I'm just trying to find it in the article here because it's a really interesting exchange, where Reginald Gardner, a chap called Reginald Gardner.
And one of the male clerks asked them, anything else, gentlemen, when they went to file these papers in 02/2008? Mhmm. And that man was Reginald Gardner, who knew a lot about what was going on. I'm just reading out this section. Because he was responsible for sorting which mail went to which department at the Treasury. Claude showed him his file folder, and ex marine describes the scene. This is really funny. Reginald Gardiner, you can see the eyes about to pop out of his head. And he looks at Claude, and he looks at me, and he looks at the paper, and he looks at Claude, and he looks at me, and looks at the paper, and his jaw drops. And he goes, who are you guys? And I go, well, I'm counsel and this is my client for he is two sons that made the deposits, these bonds.
And we were showing him the documents. Right? I didn't say anything at the time about $3,000,000,000,000. I said, for the deposits for these bonds. And he goes, you guys made these deposits? And we and we said, yeah. And he says, that's what's paying our bills right now.
[01:34:10] Unknown:
Just a piece of paper.
[01:34:11] Unknown:
Uh-huh. So it it it opens up a whole layer of something else, I think. I mean, whenever I've heard people discuss this, people get very excited. I've I've had this going on for years over here. They talk about this SKV trust that was from 1666 and all these other things. They do you know that there's a trust and you've just got millions of pounds in it and you can have it and all that stuff? And I'm going, woah. Woah. I don't even want millions of pounds. It's you know, everybody thinks, well, if I just get millions of pounds, everything's gonna be great. No. You're not. Everybody's gonna have millions of pounds. Their problems are only beginning. They're only beginning. You don't need more of this crappy money. We don't want it at all. This is the problem. It's not that you wanna make money. It's that you wanna make money honest again. And, so it's a wonderful it's a wonderful account. I'll try I think Paul's actually put it on in a PDF. Well, I know he has because I'm reading it right now. Mhmm. And it's definitely worth your while going through it, Roger. I think you'll find it extremely interesting.
[01:35:04] Unknown:
I I'll my question has been around for a while. Is has anybody successfully drawn off this account where they can go pay their bills and stuff? Because that seems to be everybody's, goal.
[01:35:16] Unknown:
Yeah. When nobody's come forward I've never seen any proof of it. Just No. No. Well, this story is basically that it helped the world's economy together. So you could say because they were being honorable, decent US, what, citizens, nationals, whatever they were Mhmm. And they said, hey. We've got this trust deposit account, and our country's, going up, you know, a very bad place without swearing and without a paddle, and, we're gonna we're gonna bail it out. So they they bailed it out because they were able to get standing, because they understood the paperwork with things like CUSIP numbers and all this other junk that they've created. Yeah. Yeah. All of this
[01:35:55] Unknown:
stuff. That's what this story is all about. Well, evidently, what the CUSIP number is, from my understanding, is it's the number they put at the bottom of a birth certificate. And that somehow when they take the birth certificate and use it as a warehouse receipt to attach it to bond issues, that it's that CUSIP number that traces so the payment on the coupon gets to the right person that owns it. And these bonds, of course, can be transferred internationally and are every day. Okay? I mean, they trade debt every day. And so, anyway, that's my and my feeling is if, and I know this big if, You could ever get control down in the bowels of the basement of the treasury, and we could start figuring out what numbers go to what bonds.
You seems to me that you could trace it out and see who the recipient of that payment would be, and then you make a decision. Well, if they're crooked and involved in this, we don't pay their payments. And if it's mom and pop down on the corner that did some bond investing, we'll pay them. So you got a way to differentiate. I know that's way out in left field, will probably never happen, but I think about things like that.
[01:37:09] Unknown:
Well, I do too, really. I I might be useful. You know, Brent mentioned getting someone on for an interview. This guy who's going under the handle of ex marine, this is only a week or so ago. Mhmm. He's the guy to interview. I wanna talk to him. Well, there's a contradiction
[01:37:23] Unknown:
right there because you're never an ex marine.
[01:37:26] Unknown:
Well, that's just I know. But that's just the handle he used to protect his protect his ID. You know? And, there's another really funny bit here, and I won't read any more from it. This is really rather amusing. Right? The they did a trial run-in 2006 with $60,000,000,000 worth of bonds to bail out some African Development Fund or something. So he says this, the ex marine got an entry of default with the local US attorney claiming that he had not served the attorney, the attorney general correctly. He tried to file some motions to reconsider, but he didn't have enough legal expertise to continue. The complaint was never answered, and there were also no objections to any of the pleadings that are still on file in Phoenix. The case has been sealed ever since. This is about 02/2006.
However, his his study partner in Los Angeles, Claude, actually got a hearing. And at the hearing, the judge told Claude, mister so and so, I have to dismiss your case because I can't see you. Claude replied, well your honor I'm standing right here in front of you, he's not looking at you. The judge left and he said, well mister so and so I understand that and I'm empathetic to your case but because of what you did legally I can't see you anymore. You see, when you revoke legal title from the USAG and the United States District Court system, they no longer have jurisdiction to see you anymore because there is no more entity or trust under legislative jurisdiction for the executive branch to see you anymore. In other words, Claude was given standing by the LA federal judge. This is kind of still confusing to me, but I just thought I'd read that probably less confusing to you guys.
But it's a it's a fascinating thing and very funny as well. I love the idea that you're certain I can't actually see you because I don't have any jurisdiction anymore. You you've just left the system. That's what jurisdiction should be. I I don't have any authority on you. I can't see you. You know? Well, if I were to sum up what
[01:39:25] Unknown:
Paul said, there's different ways you can sum it up. One of the ways I'd sum it up that caught my ear was honest money. Everything and he also used the idea of double speak, words that mean what you don't think they mean, or you think they mean this and they mean that. And it's that's what it all is. I've said a while ago, they call it a loan. It's not a loan. They're just giving it to you, title and possessions. You own it, when you take money out that the bank says they're loaning to you. And on this double speak point, I had the opportunity to go into I'm just giving testimony, what happened to me and what I learned when it happened. I went into appellate court in the state of Washington to argue against a massive international bank.
Well, they had stolen $300,000 from my friend, and I learned a lot. I went into the case hoping I would learn a lot. I did. That's where I really came to grips with some of these things. But even more than that, I had a fellow come to me that he said a local bank that would banks are large. You gotta be capitalized in the millions to be a bank, and this bank was, and it was a state bank. And he said they stole my money, and, I ended up I just told him I don't know beans from sour apple butter about banking. Why are you asking me? All I know is all I know is, he who takes what isn't isn't shall pay the price or go to prison.
I learned that when I was a boy in Sunday school. I think that was something they substituted for the one of the 10 commandments, thou shalt not steal. And he kept pressing me and pressing me and pressing me. He went to other lawyers, and other lawyers said, I'm not gonna do that. And they said, I'll ruin my reputation. Well, they'll come out. I didn't care about that time. They'd already ruined my reputation, and they'd already come after me. And I couldn't go in court in front of a jury because they went to the newspapers back then and just made me look like I was, son of the devil himself. You know?
So I took the case finally on the basis of thou shall not steal. I said stealing's against the law. They stole your money and your property. Let's see if we can do something. Well, I didn't feel like I could win the case, and other lawyers told me you're not gonna win this case. My professor in law school told me, said, dude, they go up against the bank. You're not gonna win probably. Them and insurance companies, by the way, that's all usury. Well, I did it, and I said, I'm gonna use this as an opportunity to learn what I can about banking.
And so I put two of the bank, vice presidents on the stand, and I had them under cross examination. And, of course, when you're doing cross examination, really, cross examination primarily is a speech by the cross examiner. The the answers to the questions don't matter as much as people think they do. You're talking to the jury, and you're making a speech in the form of questions. And, but I thought also that I would use it to, just find out what I could. You can ask any kind of question you want on cross examination, leading questions, non leading questions. There are limits, but there were there are sometimes you can ask a question that will have its effect even if it's objected to. You just wanna get it out there. You know? Well, I cross examined each of these over six hours. And the cross examination, I don't know what it's like in the old country where Paul lives, but here, you can go on about as long as you want.
That's not an exaggeration. Well, six hours long enough. Of course, the idea of that is at some point, you can wear wear the guy down. He just gets tired, and he may say something he wished he hadn't. That's the important thing about cross examination too. It's our it's the only form of torture that we allow in our common law tradition. I say that our our common law tradition our common law tradition has never it was never it's never been lawful. It's happened. It happens in America on various levels, but that's inquisitive. That's the inquisitorial system of the of the law of the city. That's not our common law. Our common law of the land is not inquisitorial.
It's fundamental fundamentally adversarial. We go to we have battle it's battle by battle by trial before the jury instead of trial by battle, which has been a part of our common law tradition too. Somebody gave me a movie recently that's worth watching. And I a famous actor in it. I don't remember his name. I just recognize him. But it was about my I I wanna recommend this to people because it's a pretty good movie. It's about the Norman culture in France. Of course, the Normans were from France. They conquered France France. They were Norwegians.
They conquered France. And then in October, they invaded England. And that's had an impact upon us, in our common law tradition. But, the movie takes place in France, and it's all about trial by battle. That's what the whole movie is about. It's a recent movie. I forget the name of it, doggone it. Now I need to watch it again because it's historically accurate about Please get that title of that and bring it to us. I'd love to watch that myself. Oh, I I want to. I'll tell you. Here's the star of the movie. Now it's coming to me how I can find it. The star of the movie was the the young actor that was in the Bourne Identity movies.
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Matt Damon.
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Matt Damon. That's yeah. He was the one that starred in this movie, and it was his wife that's claiming that Matt's best friend they were a couple of nights. Matt's best friend raped his wife. And, of course, his wife had to make the accusation, and he he had to back her up, and she had to back him up. And then she was in the dock, as they say in the old country. And if if, he lost the battle, she would be executed for bringing false testimony. And what it was, of course, trial trial by battle in in the old country and in this country too. But it was and it was here too. But it's, a final appeal to God.
The course of last duel Pardon?
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It is. Was it the last duel?
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I think it could have been. Yeah. That sounds right. Or duel, as we say here in England. Dual. Oh. Now there's another French word. Right? That's a French word from
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some of the people. Just think I had to play the role of the snotty Englishman. Oh,
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gosh. Dual. We kinda like it when we do that. And it it just uses it. We don't I don't think it makes us mad to me. I I've I've been cataloging words as you're talking, Paul. And you like, here's one you used. No. If I can remember it. Oh, skullduggery. Now I've heard that word, and it is used here in The States, but it's not used, in The States like it's used in the old country. You use it often there. It has a meaning that's that's important in our culture. It should be used more often. Synonymous
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to chicanery?
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Synonymous. Synonymous.
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Yeah. Synonymous. That's easy for you to say.
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It is. Synonymous. Well,
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anyway, it's I recommend the movie to learn about what, historically accurate. I'm sure what like, they say whatever comes out of well, they used to say, and I say, whatever comes out of Hollywood is no good. In other words, there's enough lies in it that will get you off the rails if you buy them.
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But You know, Steven Spielberg said in an interview with the Dallas Yeah. Newspaper Uh-huh. The most power world's most powerful, weapon is celluloid.
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Oh, yeah. No. I get it because it's fundamentally idolatry. Moving moving idolatry. Movies the movies as they used to call them. Well Yeah. I forgot where I was going with that discussion. I wanted to oh, I made mention of, it oh, here's what I learned on the cross examination of those of those guys. I just said shucks, so I doubt that the judge will go with me. I'm gonna go just do what I can. So I dug into it. Here's what happened. I discovered that the bank uses two books. One book is for one set of books is for public consumption, and the other set of books is for the bank. Now here's the craziness of it, and it's this crazy and stupid.
They had said that my client they had they had said, we'll serve as trustee, take over your accounts, make sure that your debts are paid, and that when it's over, you'll have a million dollars to start over again. Well, they didn't do that. Instead, they induced him into allowing them to be, in a fiduciary position instead of contract position. And they were his fiduciaries. They took over his accounts, and then they did not make the payments that he owed to them. Oh. And on the basis of that, they foreclosed it on him. That's the that's the the simplicity of the stupidity.
And we said or I said to them, well, if that's true, how was my client to know that you're supposed to make those payments? Well, we have it's on the books. We have it. And we have a set of books. Then I ask them quite well on what books? You have another set of books. Yes. Well, but my client doesn't get to see those books. Right? Correct. The only the banker sees those books. Correct. And those banks said that he was in arrears on his payments. Correct. But you didn't tell him that. Correct. On and on we went like that. Yeah. And of course they were just telling the truth. And what amazed me even further, if you don't have eyes to see this, you're not going to, you may even be able to see it, but you won't accept it. And the judge didn't. He did not accept it. And I proved my point. My point in the case was I wanted to prove that the relationship in our common law tradition, it's all about relationship.
Everything in our common law tradition is calculated to preserve lawful relationships. Everything from marriage relationships to contract relationships to fiduciary relationships, as they say in the Wabash Valley, between a trustor and a or a trust trustee and a beneficiary in a common law trust. And my argument was when you induced my client from into a common law trust relationship, that took you out of a contract and put you into trust relationship. Contract is arm link arm's length. Trust relationship is fiduciary. The trustee, is bound by the highest of law in our common law tradition to act only in the benefit of the beneficiary, as the Bible says, of the Messiah, even to his own hurt.
When Jesus Christ promised and to enter Godhead enter Godhead covenant, a trust settlement, he said my part of this is to be trustee and to and to act only in the benefit of my people as it says in Isaiah, even to my own hurt. Well, he did it to the point of cruel torture and death to fulfill the the terms of the trusteeship. Well, the bank did that. They they hornswoggled him into into, the fiduciary relationship returning over his property to them, and now they're responsible. But then they used that against him instead of for him. And that was what I was trying to do. I thought I got a shot at it, but it didn't happen that way. Got, bank banks don't want to deal in trust relations. They want their relationship with you to be arm's length. Arm's length. That means I look out for me and you look out for you.
Caveat impator. That's the old Latin phrase that means buyer beware. You look out for yourself. You went into this with your eyes wide open. If you didn't do anything about it, you will suffer because the contract says and, you knew you if you didn't know, you should've known. That's banks. And that's why by the way, you put your money in a bank. It's no longer your money as as we said a while ago. Therefore, if the bank goes belly up or they breach they're not breaching any fiduciary relationship. They're breaching a contract. And the only action you have against them is an action at contract law, and they'll probably win. That's why I was trying to move this this judge to say, oh, this is fiduciary.
We're in trust law now. They don't want that. See? They can't handle that. They would lose lose lose Uh-huh. If it was in a trust relationship. And,
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that's what's happening there. Well, after all that talk, Roger or Paul, you got more comments? That's so interesting. Paul, what's your observations? Thanks for dropping by, by the way. I I know this is one of your
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keen areas of interest too. Well, as a matter of fact, let me intro let let me introduce this if Paul doesn't. Paul got really interested according to his testimony to me, really interested in the things he's interested in now because of what happened to him at the hands of the banks. Yes. Now if that's not true, Paul, tell us. But if it is No. That's true. No. That's true. Like my client. Right? I mean, in that way, it was a bank. Yeah. I don't know what the details of what happened, but I I do know you told me that once.
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Yeah. It it's just yeah. It's a long tale. I've said it loads. It's okay. It's not particularly. It's just my tale. Other people have got other really interesting tales of how they've sort of been brought into this. When you were talking about Isaiah, though, just then Mhmm. Mhmm. I haven't mentioned this before. I've got a book on my shelf here by Michael Hudson, The US economist. He's still alive. He's a he's an Australian, isn't he, or something? He's very good. He's brilliant. This this book, I think you'd like it quite a bit, Brent, actually. It's called And Forgive Them Their Debts. Oh.
Not and forgive them their sins. And the cover picture is, of course, the best picture ever, one of the best days ever with Christ laying into the money changers with a whip. You know? Mhmm. And what one of the things he talks about in the early pages is what happened sort of after that. A few days, I don't know exactly when you could correct me. Mhmm. He's basically, I'll say, chased or pressed or taken into by a crowd into a synagogue. Mhmm. Which was an Israelite thing, not a Jewish thing. I can't put that in. That's it's an old word before they sort of acquired all this terminology from us. And, he reads I can't remember which chapter it is. He reads from Isaiah. And the main bit in it multiple times in this sort of these few verses is about the day of the Lord, that phrase, the day of the Lord. Mhmm. And what Hudson's saying, what is this day of the Lord? What does it mean? Because, you know, when I was younger, you just think, oh, yeah. Well, it's the day of happiness or, you know, God's coming back and it's just great, you know, and all that kind of stuff. Very vague, but really a a positive vagueness.
Yeah. Hudson says that's not what it means. Mhmm. What it means is the day of the Lord is the day of jubilee of the forgiveness of all debts. Uh-huh. And it chain and I'm going, oh, I love this. So as a book, for me, it bridged the world of the skullduggery from the financial from the Babylonian merchant class Mhmm. Into the correction. I'm now looking at Christ as like, you know, in so many there's so many aspects to his life, of course, but this one wasn't as prominent. It wasn't even present at all in my thinking. And you may recall that he's talking to this crowd and they get quite cross with him. No. In fact, they get they get really quite angry with him and they try to throw him off a cliff. And whenever I'm talking they do, don't they? And and whenever I'm talking to people, oh, Jesus loves everyone. I'm going, I don't have you actually read this? I don't think you've read this. I said, you ought to read this. I said, have you ever whipped bankers? I haven't. Right? You wanna I'd give that a go. Let's do it. I don't think you like them.
Right? So let's all have a day. We should have a day here. We get down the city of London, take a whip, and let go of it. I I said, then you'll know what he went through. But Uh-huh. Yeah. They try why did they try to push him off a cliff? Because according to Hudson, and this makes complete sense Mhmm. The people in the congregation at that time were the creditor class. They were all owed money. They didn't want him talking about the day of jubilee and the forgiveness of all debts because they built their insidious opposition within the whole of the people at the time by being the people to whom all the money was owed.
Mhmm. And this pattern repeats throughout history. It's what it did for Caesar. Mhmm. Caesar was stabbed by those 50 guys because they were from the creditor class. Uh-huh. He was gonna wipe out all the debts, so they had to kill him. So it's it's fascinating that there are people that know, they've tried to do things, and the creditor class goes berserk. It literally becomes murderous, absolutely murderous. Mhmm. And that element is still in that culture to this day, and you hear it in their language and their words. It's demonstrated by their attitude, by a complete indifference to the welfare of other men and women. I was gonna say fellow man, but they're not. They don't even think of it like that. They view themselves as entirely distinct from us Yep. And they do view us as cattle. This culture is built up there, and they just operate on the basis of this is some stuff that I own. It might be a human being, but I don't really give a crap about that. And, we're gonna have our way with it, and that's what we're gonna do. And they're too stupid anyway to find out and, you know, and they're right up to a point. We are.
But that's because, you know, I would suggest that we're trying to be honorable in our hearts, which is the best thing you can ever do, to be honest. Overseen by, as the protocol say, our principled
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men?
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Yes. The principled men. Those those men. So, and and we've got the thing situation now where we're in this article from with this ex marine guy talks about we're we're currently under Basel two or Baal two, you know. Mhmm. And we're about to go to Bahl 3. Don't ask me what that means. It's just it's more July 1.
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But Okay. Bay if you're talking about basil three from the, Bank of International Settlements, it's it was proposed back in the teens, but it kicked in July 1.
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Mhmm. Yep. And it's just it's just more cover for the same scam. I'm not interested in Basel one, two, three, or anything. I don't know if Well on one level, I have to care because it's invaded our lives, and it's literally an enemy that's actually wiping everything out. Mhmm. But the you know, as you were saying earlier, the whole idea that we cannot understand what they say, my thing is like you I would say, no, you can't use words like that. We don't know what you're talking about. If you come in and talk like that again, you're going to prison. You got to talk plain. Mhmm. I would I'd make them not talk like that. So you can't express this like this because you're intentionally being making yourself unintelligible and not understandable to the layman. And if you can't do that, you can't operate your business.
Mhmm. It's I want to sort of I mean I'm being silly but why? How are they able to abuse this language? Well obviously it's because there's such a coterie of other beneficiaries from their evil ways Yep. That the whole system comes around and protects them and says, oh, no. And we'll send a policeman out and we'll do this and then you'll get a court summons, whatever that is. And you'll get another piece of paper and we'll just bombard you with paper and we'll psychologically harry you, and worry you and ruin and mess around with your life. That's what rats are related. In the hazard circulars,
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they will be so attached to the system that they will not betray it for because it's their own self interest. I butchered that, but that's basically No. It's absolutely spot on. I think I liked your butchery because it's clear and simple. That's exactly it.
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And,
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yep. Well, we're gonna cut out of our regular show. You're, welcome to sit around. We may today may be one of those good after show days. We hadn't heard a peep out of the audience except for Joan. And, people may have questions or comments. We've covered we've plowed a lot of ground today, actually. I wanted to go into just a bit, Paul. I think you do, but make sure you do. It's important of what Basel three is and why it's so important to them. Have you been, exposed to that?
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No. Enlighten me.
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Well, alright. We're gonna hear the whistler here. I'm gonna go ahead and go, and we'll just talk over it. We'll titillate the audience. Basel three, it was even commented on by a retired guy head of the BIS, a Dutch guy, back in the eighties. And he said, well, we've seen this coming. That was what the problem is, this big debt bubble and, for years. You know? And so what they did was they passed Basel three in, I think, the to middle of the teens of this century. And with the main part of it, and it just kicked in in July, the main part of it is the way banks put their assets on the balance sheet.
And for the whole time, since the BIS's initiation in the thirties, gold has been a 50%. There's three tiers, one, two, and three. The tier one is the most liquid of assets, cash, bonds, stocks, etcetera, and they carry a 100% of the value of that tier to the balance sheet. The next tier two is a 75% carry. I don't know what the components were regardless. Tier three where they had goals since the inception of the BIS was 50%. That's why banks never owned gold. They only got to carry 50% of the stated value market value over the balance sheet. Well, as of July 1, gold are 100% asset. That's why banks have been buying it hand over fist for years. And what they're going to do and the plan is, of course, when this when this, whatever we're facing goes, they will revalue gold, and it will retain the value for the bank. And the paper will become worthless, and they'll give you shares of the worthless bank as your deposits back.
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That sounds great. I can't wait.
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So that's the way they value gold. Now notice in all this back talk in the financial industry, you don't hear them too much talking about buying Bitcoin. They're buying gold. K? For whatever that's worth, that's Basel three, and that's its importance.
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Yeah. Aristotle said a thing. What did he say about money? He said, there's nothing wrong with fiat money just so long as we get godlike intelligence for kings, which basically means there's everything wrong with it because you're not gonna get there. You're not gonna get there. That's a brilliant statement.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, the day of the Lord, we may get it. We get it, but not now. That's that's that's the point, and I agree. And that's why we say we're not governments. We're not to be governments of men, but governments of law. And the the imperious breath of men will always gravitate to fraud. You open it up to people like that, they're gonna they're gonna take advantage of it. And, who who was it? It was another Brit. He said, he who never quotes has never quoted. That was a Brit too. But, he this fella said, we will never oh, this is Maitland. Maitland.
We will never understand, we'll never understand history until we understand Babylon. For all of us became sophisticated. And I'm not an expert on anything, but I like to just kinda reach out and try to pull together a whole lot of stuff. And, I'm beginning as I get older, I see the picture bigger and better and know what I'm up against and what I should do in the meantime. And I still say it doesn't take majority. That's not our common law tradition. It's not a it's not a majority principle. It's a critical mass. When Noah went into the ark, he was in the minority.
But when he came out, he was in the majority. And that's what that's our hope as God's remnant that we do that. So let's relax, friend, and don't get discouraged over all this talk. See, we do a lot of talking about how ugly and awful it all is, and it is, and how dangerous. And we sometimes are are tempted to say what can a one man do or what can I do or what can we do against such evil? You can't fathom. The more I the older I get, the the deeper and the deeper and the more ugly it becomes bad to the bone.
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I I start yes I started yesterday's show, Brent, with Revelation 18. Mhmm. And and the fact comes in there and says, come out of her, my people. Come out of her. You're the Bible expert much more so than myself. Do you think see things like that repeated in the Bible very often?
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What come out of her? My people come out of her. Oh, she's the that's the theme woven throughout the warp of the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible. That's what the Exodus out of Egypt is not only reality, but symbolic of Yes. And becomes, a lesson to us. And then we see Abraham, what did he do? He came out of Ur. He got out. He just got the devil out and started walking. Didn't even know where he was going, but he knew he had to get out. And who got out of Sodom and saved his his own life, but he was weak and he lost his wife and his children and his extended family that was Lot. He said, get out of this city, the God himself in human form, the Lord Jesus Christ pre incarnate. The angel as the Bible, the angel of the Lord of Yahuah said, get out. And so he packed up. He got out finally, but they had to press him really hard because they were making fun of him, his whole his own family, his own family.
And Jesus Christ repeats that principle too in the tenth chapter of Matthew. Your own family will come against you. Relax, friends. Don't fight it. Just relax and do the next right thing. That's the answer here. What is the next right thing? You think you know? Bury your head in the book, and you'll learn more about what the right thing is. And it will be, in a lot of cases, if not most, contrary to what you have thought. That's important to understand. And then when you see it, you'll say, oh, yeah. I see that is right, though. You'll see it's right. But what you see is right, you're marching to the beat of a different drummer. And what you see is right, though, the mass of the world won't see it that way. We're not we're not looking for majority principle.
Christian culture, that's what I'm looking for, like John Wycliffe did. By the way, John Wycliffe is, the model that I follow. John Wycliffe, that's the model I follow. He had two things on his mind. He's known for being the first man to translate the Bible into English. The first man to translate the Bible into English, but he didn't have the religion original manuscript. See, he did that before the fall of Constantinople when those manuscripts leaked out and it wound up in Europe. And within two years, New Testament Greek was being taught at the University of Orleans in or in France. And then that be people began to learn it. And that was the mass that was struck in the dry timber that started the reformation that came to England. England is not known for its any particular leader in Bible transfer in the reformation.
It's known for Bible translation. The reformation in England was about the word of God, front and center, like no other country in the world. And they Wycliffe was the man that was called the morning star, or that means Venus, the first one up or the last one down, the reformation. And, Wycliffe did that, but there were two things he did. He he's known for that. But what he's not known for, he was just a strong on. That's the laws of nature's God, the Bible. The laws of nature's God, like our declaration of 76 says That's a phrase from John Locke, the Englishman.
John Locke got it from the Scotch, Scottish enlightenment. John Locke was the best fan, the greatest fan of the Scottish enlightenment. They used to say in Scotland in those days, go south, young man. You wonder where that phrase came from the newspaper, magnet here in, America, go west, young man. He got that from the Scottish enlightenment. They said go south. And the Scottish enlightenment took over the whole island, and then it took over America. And in America, we it was the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. The laws of nature, that's our common law tradition. The laws of nature's God is the Bible. Wycliffe translated the Bible into English, and he said, there are two things that have to happen in my country where it's going down.
It's going down hard. And Wycliffe had been through hard times. He'd been through those great the black plague, the bubonic, whatever it was. He went through that. A third of the population died. He didn't. That he began as he went forward in life, black became blacker and white became whiter. And the gray areas began to go from his mind and he was captured like Luther later was of the word of God. And he he pushed that. He said, our country will never change and we won't be saved unless the boy that walks behind the plow can know more about the bible than the priest. Well, Whit Tyndale repeated that later. He is the first man, an Englishman, translate the bible into English from the original tongues.
But Wycliffe is the morning star and two things he wanted. He said, we've got to have it so the man or the boy that walks behind the plow can read the very word of God himself or himself. And number two, we've got to have the common law of England taught in, Oxford. And he was a professor there at Burton College, by the way. You gotta be taught in Oxford or this country is not gonna change. In other words, we've got to have the word of God among in our church houses proclaimed from the pulpit, And we've got to have our common law tradition in the courts and they were losing it. They were losing the common law tradition. By the way, Jeffrey Chaucer, from all the evidence I can find was, a brother-in-law to John Wickliffe.
Jeffrey Chaucer was a common lawyer, a sergeant at law. That means a barrister. His writings, Canterbury tales were all about the common law, the importance of it. Everything he did was about that. Everything that Wycliffe did was about the Bible and the common law. Both of those men, the, the crown was after their lives. They went after Chaucer. He fled, went to France, I believe. And then they went after Wycliffe, but they didn't get him until long after he, well, he beat, beat him to the punch. And as as, as I said, that he got a subpoena from a more powerful party than the king. And so he took that, and he died while he was in church, in the pulpit right there in the front, by the way. Really? Little church in Lutterworth. Yeah. The men, the elders there carried him outside. He's buried in that graveyard. Rome came along later, dug up his bones, held an inquisition on him, and declared him guilty, and crushed his bones up in little bitty pieces and burned them and scattered the ashes in a little brook there by the church. I'm Yikes.
Church. The name of the brook, though, was River River this is important. River Swift. River Swift. Wherever that is in England. But it River Swift, it it's more like a creek, but it's big enough. It's got water in it most of the year and and, runs to the sea. And ever after that, they said, ashes of John Wycliffe spread with the British Empire throughout the world, and America then is here because of all those things that happened. Let's not discount them. Why do we have the word of God everywhere in our in our homes? We have more Bibles in America. We take them to church and open up. How did that happen? That all happened. It all happened from what happened. And then John Knox of Scotland, along with a bunch of other English speaking people in Geneva, trans about about a dozen dozen men translated the Bible into English. They were there to keep their heads from being rolled from off on their shoulders.
And they translated the Bible into English called the Geneva Bible, and that was the first Bible that had notes. It was the first study Bible. It was the first Bible printed small enough that folk could carry it to church, and they did. Why do we carry our Bibles to church? We do it here in America. That's because that started back with those fellows. And they get that habit, that custom became really important based on, of acts when it said the Bereans are more noble than those of Thessalonica. The Berean Christians were more noble than those of the Thessalonica because they looked at the Bible to see if what the preacher was saying was true. They looked at the Bible to see if what the preacher was saying is true. He's up there pontificating about the Bible. I tell people when I teach the Bible, you got a copy of the book, get it, and open it up. This is this is biblical. This is good Bible. Open it up and see if you think what I'm saying is true. I'll take you through what I how I understand it, my testimony of how I've come to my conclusions, but I can't make the decision for you. You got to make it. You got to make it. When you stand before Jesus Christ, you're not gonna be able to say, well, the priest told me though. So so and so, or the preacher said this, or my father told me that, or the professor at school said this, or the supreme court said this was the truth, or or the king or the queen or the emperor or the pope or whatever. And Jesus Christ isn't going to tolerate that. He'll say, but why did you do what you did? On basis of what? In my revelation of my will to you, the Bible. Why? Do you know? If you don't know, you spend the rest of your life burying your head in the book till your blood is bibbling, and that's what you need to do.
It will make your life more tolerable. I know you might not have the same friends you had before, but you and you'll start talking. And like Paul said Paul said he can go into a a a gathering, go into somebody's home, walk into No. A pub. A pub. No. He said he could walk into somebody's kitchen at one time. And he said oh, did you who said pub? Was that you, Paul? Well, so I thought that's what he used the example. One time, he said been feeling this lately. You know, so I'm laughing at it. Go ahead. Well, he can walk into a pub, or he said he can walk into the kitchen if there's a gathering in somebody's home and clear the place out in less than thirty seconds just being himself. You know? I mean yeah. But why? Well, he says things that they can't compute or don't want to compute. Now I would I say that on on the basis of what I heard him say. I'm not just making this. But he can and he can elaborate on it or disagree with it or fine tune the statement better. But it is true. You may not have the friends you had before, but you have the confidence of knowing you're right, friends, if you're looking at God's word. See, that's the point. Well, Roger, I'm going to go. Are you? You got to take off today? Yeah. I got it, Brent. I don't want to. Somebody said something. Yeah. Paul. Oh, Paul. Brent, I have I have a couple of questions for you. Was that River Swift or could it have been Swift River? I haven't found anything. Well, you make a point because those those Englishmen say that, you know, we we say Clark County, they say County Clark. You know? I mean, they they turn things around. I don't know. You can be right. They we say, well, in the South, and they say, in the South Of England, they kinda say a little different. So they even have a place down there called Land's End that's kind of Yes. They do. The bottom end of the island. Well, I we don't say things like that as much, but you might be right. Look it up. But look up John Wycliffe. Just John Wycliffe. And there are different ways to spell it. Spell it the best way you think. Try but it's W Y C L I F F or C L I F. Either way, it'll come up. And there are different ways it's spelled been spelled through history.
John is the morning star of the reformation. Then in the book, excellence of the common law, I have a whole section on John Wycliffe and his plan for getting his country back. I heard Paul say one time, you know, I just want my country back. I don't know why he said that, whether it came from his mind or he heard it from somebody else. He said, I just want my country back. I'm talking about Paul, the Englishman from Yorkshire. He wants his country are you still here, Paul? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm listening. Oh, yeah. He said he wants his country back. Well, that's the same thing John Wycliffe said. I just want my country back. That's the same thing John Knox said when John Knox said give me Scotland or I die. That's what we want, and we should want that because God has given us a land.
Each of us, wherever we are, he's given it to us, and it's it's in trust, by the way, common law trust. And he wants us to not allow it to be polluted with false doctrine, which results in false actions. And he says that's what pollutes the land. And if we do that, then he will throw us off the land. He will displace us. You think this what's happening to us now is because we're good folk? No. Because we've allowed evil. God is in charge, my friend. Yeah. He wants us to do what yes. Yes. But understand he is sovereign, and it's not about a matter of him getting on our side. It's a matter of us getting on his side. I agree. He's sovereign. And that's happening. And it's happening. The pendulum swinging. It really is. So I mean, even this thing with, Kurt, Kirk. Kirk. Charlie Kirk. Charlie.
Listen. We've talked about how he was funded by the wrong people, and no man gets to be famous that age if he's not funded by the wrong people. I'm live long enough to learn what point. But he he I don't think he had bad intentions, but he started to say things he shouldn't have. Now his death in England is as big as it is here. It's as big or bigger in England from what they tell me. And worldwide. Yeah. God is the God of all things. He says, Romans eight twenty eight. He says, I make all things work together for good to them who are called, that's the elect, them who are chosen, same word, same synonyms, same no. Different. Same idea, different word. Chosen according to his purpose.
It doesn't say all things work together that are good. It says all things work together, the sepulch of the apostle, all things work together for good for his people. Not for anybody else, my friend. There's a lot he works evil. Now an evil thing happened. The man was murdered, But and he like the rest of us, he's a sinner. But God will take his life and he will work it together to his good for us, not for anybody else. Yeah. Keep that in mind. And if you wanna be one of us, if you wanna be one of us, that's probably the strongest of evidence that you are born from above. Yep. It's already happened because he puts a new desire in your heart. I'm quoting John Knox on that point. His mother-in-law came to him. I see. She was upset. She was beside herself. He said, what's the matter?
What's the matter, mom? This is his mother-in-law. I don't know what he called her. I'm elaborating a little bit. She said, I feel like now this is a quote. I feel like that the devil is like a roaring lion trying to devour me. I'm scared, scared, scared. And he said, now wait a minute. He said, now listen, mom. Do you feel like the devil is trying to devour you like a roaring lion? She said, yeah. I said quit I said, he said, quit worrying. Obviously, if he's trying to devour you, he hasn't devoured you yet. And, obviously, if you were not a Christian woman born from above, he wouldn't be trying to devour you.
So rest assured that he may be slobbering and foaming at the mouth trying to devour you, but God in this third twenty third Psalm said of king David, David said of god God had prepared a table before his enemies in the presence of his enemy by by the letters that Hebrew says, in the faces to the faces of mine enemies. He takes care of us. Relax, friends. You have those sensibilities. You you want to be a Christian. You're probably already born from above. Relax and follow-up on it. And if you're scared of the devil and you're worried, relax. The Bible says that's the way it is, but God is your defender. You are the apple of his eye. Apple? That's the old English. That's an English translation from the old country.
That's what they used to call the pupil of the eye is the apple. The apple of the eye. And he says you are the apple of his eye. What does that mean? That means that he doesn't have to think about defending you. It's instinctive. Somebody throws a piece of pay wads up a piece of paper and throws it at your face, what do you do instinctively if your head goes sideways and you shut your eyes or you throw your hand up? You don't think about it. That's the way he says his attitude is toward us. He didn't think about it. We are his barons, his born ones. There's a Yorkshire word.
I'm learning from Paul. See? I'm learning more to help communicate. Well, thanks a lot, Fran, and thank you for all those who listen. I'm go ahead. Somebody's gonna ask something. One one more quick question.
[02:20:32] Unknown:
One more quick question. I've heard I don't know if this is true, but is it true that the most successful arguments are made by lawyers who use crack? What? Does that does that, deserve an explanation? Because I hadn't heard that, but go ahead. Well, okay. Well, crack, I mean, it's not c r a c k, of course. I mean, no lawyer would ever do that, of course. Crack is c r a c, and, that refers to a legal writing style that, refers to conclusion rule analysis and then conclusion again. It's a widely used framework for structuring legal writing and analysis.
[02:21:16] Unknown:
No. That and that was I I I was taught that. First first year, first class. Yeah. That's the first thing you're taught. But no. That I would say that's not true. The most the the fellow that wins in court, you got you should do that when you now do analysis for the judge and there's no jury. You you need to. A matter of fact, that's the proper approach to Bible interpretation too. That's called your hermeneutics. Hermeneutics. And people are saying Herman what? Herman who? Well, no. Hermeneutics was Hermes was the, the Greek god of, no. No. See, Hermes, well, yeah, the Greek Roman god of, of the messenger god that had the wings on his feet. On the dime, on the back of the Mercury dime. Yeah. That's that's it too. And it means to bring the the the message across from one language to another or interpretation.
It means to bring it across if it's obscure. And a Bible teacher practices that. And it's a good way to approach the Bible. But the guy who wins in court the guy who wins in court listen to me close. The guy who wins in court is the guy that tells the most interesting story and makes it look like it's legal or it isn't, like, legal depending upon what he's trying to do. Why? Because why does Jesus Christ tell tell parables? Because stories sell. Facts tell. Facts tell, but stories sell. You take facts and weave them into a story. That'll get people's attention. I don't care how educated you are. I don't care how sophisticated you are. I don't care if you went to MIT and learned all that physics and mathematics. No.
A sane and a sane man who is emotionally and mentally healthy loves a good story. Yeah. I love it. They do. I I wanna hear that story. And that's that's why the Bible has all these stories. That's the first thing you should learn about the Bible. Read the Bible for the stories. Read the gospel records. It's a story. It's a biography of a man's life. The most important man whatever lived. It's a great story. And the gospel is the story. The god spell, the spelling out of what happened. And there's not a more exciting story, but there are other exciting stories. And when you go to court, you it our common law tradition is designed. It's a Christian tradition. It's designed to tell the story and hear, the story that's at hand.
I'm dealing with a guy now in a divorce case, and, we just did affidavits. I just try to go through and say, we'll do it like this. The facts, I I don't know the he knows the facts. But I want the affidavit to read in a way that's easy to understand as we say in affidavit, to read in a way that tells a story, a good story that will keep your attention a little bit. Because that's what how God made mankind. We're storytellers. We love stories. We start out that way as children. I went to law went to law school. You know, you get in class, the professors abuse you. And we have I had this one professor and we got ready for class. We'd read all the cases and he said, okay, man, who can tell a good story?
Because it's one thing to have the facts of the case, but he wanted somebody to try to tell the story. Well, that's part of being a lawyer. You get in front of the jury. The jury are not lawyers. God help us. If the jury are lawyers, we're really we're really destroyed at that point, but they aren't. And so we wanna tell them a story. We stand up and tell them the story we're gonna tell, and when we do closing arguments and summing up, we we tell the story. Oh, that old, old story. Yeah. So they're all alike. They're all exciting, and that's what we need. So yeah. But, what you said about crack is true. Now go ahead. Brit. Somebody.
[02:24:55] Unknown:
Brit. Brit, are taxes usury?
[02:25:01] Unknown:
Are what? Taxes usury.
[02:25:03] Unknown:
No, taxes. Taxes are extortion. Well, they may be. They well, no, They aren't if they're legal. Let's let's be measured here. They're legal taxes, and those aren't they are taken by force or threat of force if you don't pay them. But if they're illegal taxes, it's extortion. Yes. You're right. But you're only part right when you say that. Always say, I'm willing to pay lawful taxes. It's the unlawful one that seems to dominate. See, that's the problem. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Well Alright, Brent. Love you, buddy. Thanks for coming by. Today's exceptional show. We we didn't have any conversation and dialogue with the audience, and that's good. I think everybody was hanging on the the the issues, the topics we were dealing with. So thank you, buddy. I will look forward to, next Friday. Have a good week. Yeah. And all you Yeah. Thank you, Brent. Good thanks to you. Thank you for popping in, Paul. We're all the richer when you do. I know you can't all the time, or maybe you feel like you don't. But let me say to everybody here as I go away. I don't pray for everybody.
I do pray for my friends. I do. I'm not God. I'm not trying to save the world. That's silly. I'd be trying to usurp his place, but the folks on this show, I pray. I do. Why? Because the Bible commands it. And do I always feel like it? No. I don't always feel like it. I do it anyway. Sometimes I'm having a bad day, friends, but I try. I just do what the the next right thing to do. And so I want you to know that, and I want you to know that that, the discussions we have here, I think, are important to more people than we understand. That's my purse that's opinion. All opinions are personal. I don't that's redundant to say personal opinion. But thank you all. Well, lord willing, we'll see you next week. Join us for church on Sunday if you can. Go to comment go to go to Patriot Soapbox. And then on Saturday, we do the same thing on Sunday. We're going my idea. Told you what my plan is. John Wycliffe, laws of nature. Laws of nature is God. Common law as God has revealed himself in his creation, the laws of that, and the Bible, which is the court of last resort.
And we go over those on Saturdays Saturdays and Sundays. If you go to the website commonlawyer.com, you can see how to join us to do that. And by the way, all you folk out there, pray for old Brent. Pray for old Brent. Old Brent Allen, he will Yeah. We're we're just mortals, and, God's trying to make straight licks with us crooked sticks. So let's get with it and understand what's going on. And the Bible commands us to pray for our friends. And if, and we are to give special preference to the believers, not the the unbelievers. And we are to do that, and pray for me because I'm just trying to get the word out. Like, I know Roger is. Like, I know Paul is. Like, both Pauls here. They're committed to that. I think some of you are. And join us. Join us as partners in doing that if you think we're doing something worthwhile.
[02:27:50] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you both. All we have. Brent. Look forward to next week already. See you, man. Thank you, Brent. Bye. What a Thank you, Brent. Joy these Friday shows are to me. And that's one of the things Brent and I think would do these shows even if none of y'all were listening simply because both of us get so much out of it. And, I've got a pretty good old pool of knowledge there in the old cranium, and so does Brent. And one of the real magic things about our teaming up here is that I'll have information where he's got a gap. And I say something, and it triggers something in him, which comes back and triggers something in me. It's a very interesting relationship. I think both of us really, really like it, and we hope you do too.
So, audience, any of y'all got any questions for myself or mister English here while he's with us? It's a very interesting gonna be here much longer, Roger. I gotta go. Got a question before you go. Do you live close to Land's Inn?
[02:28:52] Unknown:
No. Okay.
[02:28:55] Unknown:
It's about 300 miles away from here. I see. So John O'Groats is up in Scotland. Land's End is probably about 300 miles from here. So that's not close. Maybe it's close in American terms. Maybe it's just around the corner, isn't it? Correct. Well, that really depends.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
Why do you want me to go there? Do you want me to go? No. I just he had mentioned it was in the Southern part of England, and I just, wondered if it's close to you. You're you're fairly close to which of the aisles is it down there? The Isle Of Wight?
[02:29:22] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. The Isle Of Wight, which is sort of directly below London. Well, slightly off to the to the west. Uh-huh. Where almost where I live is almost directly. If you go straight north, you just hit London Easttown if you want to. Uh-huh. And, but if you go west and go all the way down to Land's End, you're going to Cornwall and Devon and places like that. It's right at the tail end of the spur. Yeah. Your buddy that lives down there that you you used to have on
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with the unusual name.
[02:29:51] Unknown:
Maleficus.
[02:29:52] Unknown:
Maleficus. That one. Phew. Maleficus. Oh, how is how's our buddy, Andy doing?
[02:30:00] Unknown:
I haven't spoke to you mean, Andy Hitchcock? Yes. I haven't spoke to him in months, actually. I sent some emails to him about three months ago, but he's very quiet and private and cracking on. I think he does two or three shows. He's currently doing a sort of an audio reading of King James version of the Bible, I think, from time to time, from what I can see. Mhmm. Yep. So he stayed busy by that. I haven't spoken to him much recently.
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Okay.
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So but if I do, I'll let you know. Well, I'll we'll do him our best, and we think about his his book, and his name comes up around here occasionally. It came up just recently, actually.
[02:30:35] Unknown:
Well, we're gonna be busy here between now and the end of the year because, the the donor in chief, mister Starmer, has just announced today that digital ID is going to be compulsory. But, of course, I want to know what the word compulsory means, so I think we'll start pulling that apart. And, anyway, there's already 1,300,000 people within twenty four hours. In fact, today, it was announced at lunchtime. So in a matter of about six hours, 1,300,000 people have already signed a petition saying, no. That's not happening. Yeah. And it won't happen. It won't happen. They've been laying all sorts of pipe work to do all this stuff, but we'll just start burning it.
[02:31:14] Unknown:
It's war, really. So that's what's going on. We're absolutely in a war. No question. Our side too. Yep. And it becomes more obvious by the day. But did you hear oh, and I don't know if you're listening. The latest thing on the Charlie Kirk murder?
[02:31:30] Unknown:
Is What's the I mean, there's tons of stuff. I'm I always leave I'm trying to leave it for a couple of weeks because the dust settles and everybody's Well, that's But yeah. No. I haven't. What what's the Well, that's one thing. Like this come to the forefront. Stu Peters, who I know you know who he is,
[02:31:44] Unknown:
has, come out and theorized that Charlie Kirk had the microphone he's speaking until he also was wired with a lavalier microphone. And then the shot came from the lavalier battery case and that I did not know, and you may not have either, that all of his security detail was Israeli.
[02:32:06] Unknown:
Well, I'm I'm shocked. Roger to hear that. I can tell. Shocking, isn't it? That's what's a surprise. Who would have thought that?
[02:32:15] Unknown:
Wait. Let's let that listen. That's the thing. That makes the most sense of any of it to me. Okay? Especially tailing on their little pager scam that they did. And remember, Netanyahu gave, Trump a gold pager. Do you know how they took over Syria?
[02:32:35] Unknown:
No. They got Oh, did they blow those fax machine those pocket
[02:32:39] Unknown:
I don't know. They got Pages or something. They had an app that you could load which would give you some kind of a bonus if you activated it. And it integrated all of their cell phones, and they had no messaging capability as they were storming the Bastille and
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taking over Syria. Right.
[02:33:00] Unknown:
Nice.
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Yeah.
[02:33:03] Unknown:
Nice. Know your enemy. Know your enemy.
[02:33:05] Unknown:
I know. Anyway Well, I'm gonna go, Roger, because I feel I said to Paul, I feel like a bear's ass today. This is a phrase from over here as well. You maybe have that one too.
[02:33:15] Unknown:
I'm I'm very rough. Yeah. Are you? Very rough, isn't it? You know what? Yeah. My old friend, Riggins, used to say, you'll like this. He said, some days you get the bear, and some days the bear gets you.
[02:33:30] Unknown:
Well, the bear got me today. There you go. You did you did notice my response to that, Paul, didn't you? I did. I did. Yes. Well, that's a mental picture I won't be able to get off with battery acid in the Brillo scouring pad. Oh, no. No. That's fine.
[02:33:45] Unknown:
Well, thanks for dropping by, pal. We'll look forward to, next time or when we commence the Saturday, whatever they're gonna be.
[02:33:53] Unknown:
Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I think, we we've spoken to a few more people. Everybody seems rather keen to do it. So I think a couple of weeks. I don't know when it's gonna be, but, I'm not gonna be doing much right now. I'm just gonna go and hit the hay now. You need to go home. Early night. Go hybrid. Go home. I'm just a bit rough. But, lots of tea today. I'm gonna drink a little bit more, and then I'll be okay. But it was good to swing by and spend a little time with you and Brent as it always is. So thanks, Roger. Well, you know how highly we hold you. So thank you, sir. We always appreciate your presence, and we'll look forward to the next time.
[02:34:23] Unknown:
We will. Absolutely. Alright. Okay. Just a minute. Yep. I we have we have assimilated such a wonderful group of people here. It's just so heartwarming for me. So as evidenced by today, especially. So we haven't heard hardly a peep except for Joan out of the audience. Murr peeped on in a long way. Does anybody have anything you wanna say or add? Is there anybody there?
[02:34:50] Unknown:
There. I do.
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Okay. We'll come forward.
[02:34:55] Unknown:
Oh, this is Thomas in Florida.
[02:34:57] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[02:34:59] Unknown:
Yeah. That was interesting. You were talking about that new that new, twist and the possibility of how how how Charlie was killed. And, yeah, I think the name of the security that he had around it was a Schaeffer something, Schaeffer security. And I guess they are all Israelis. And, you saw the Rents video of the guy in the brown shirt in the front. He seems to activate Yes. Everything when he reaches up and touches his left short sleeve with his right hand. And Yes. I'm not sure it was unredacted or what, but it is true that that little pager that he that that pager, that little microphone he had under his shirt was actually not that small. All you see on his shirt is the is the, the metal tab, which Right. You put on the outside of your t shirt and the underside. It's a magnet. It's just strictly a magnet to hold the two together.
And that guy doesn't activate something. And I know that I was kinda convinced that it was possibly the, probably, a 22, you know, long rifle or a short or something. But it's almost like the equivalent of, you know, when you point the the pointer at your television set and do a click, that's probably he very well could have been doing that. And Charlie's shirt does puff.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Yes. It does.
[02:36:20] Unknown:
Logical because when that round went off, if it was a '22, it would you know, it's gas. I mean, people don't realize that's all gunpowder does. It's nothing but a rapid expansion of gas that blows the slug out of the casing. Sure.
[02:36:34] Unknown:
That's There's another twist. Exactly what happened. Well, there's another interesting twist that came out this morning. In Utah, anyone that's murdered, it's it's, mandatory they get an autopsy, and he was not autopsied.
[02:36:53] Unknown:
That came out tried to close the case.
[02:36:56] Unknown:
Yep. I'm sure they are. I I also look at the things like Netanyahu coming out and announcing his death three minutes after. That seems unusual, does it not? And then the discombobulation he went through when that interviewer asked him something about Israel's involvement, and then the fact that he's came out twice since and set out disclaimers that Israel wasn't involved. Now that's unusual.
[02:37:25] Unknown:
I don't know if you're aware too. I mean, you are aware, but you know how Candace Owens, she was traveling with that troop. In other words, she was once a I I get the impression she was once basically a Christian Zionist. And, I think I saw her talking, and she seems to know all of his security first first name basis.
[02:37:48] Unknown:
Right. She's also got a mold gotta be able to name Well, she's also got a mold inside the organization Turning Point that is flipping her memos and stuff that are are are, you know, highly suspect. What I saw this morning, it was written September 2. So a couple days before he was assassinated, and he was directing them to not only find out where the money that was they had was being spent, but he was also curious about its origins, which means were they using his platform to launder money? Just a question. That came out from Candace Owens this morning. I saw it on, on the morning show on Infowars.
[02:38:37] Unknown:
She probably knows the man's name who the brown shirted man, she probably knows his name. I I would feel certain she probably does.
[02:38:47] Unknown:
So we'll see. Another day, we'll find out more. You know, we'll find out what else comes out today. But every day, there's new new stuff coming out. But this two Peter's things really make sense to me. We'll see if it pans out or not. So thank you, Thomas. Did you Who else has got Who else has got Go ahead.
[02:39:08] Unknown:
Did you also see that his wife, Erica, apparently knew Trump long before well, before she knew Charlie because she was involved in all that pageant business?
[02:39:21] Unknown:
Oh, I did not know that. So
[02:39:23] Unknown:
so she had a previous connection to Trump before she ever even met Charlie. She's from Romania or her mother. Apparently, she was involved in some sort of a charity ministry saving young girls in Romania. Oh. And it turns out that there were some accusations that they were trafficking, and her mother was involved. Isn't that interesting?
[02:39:50] Unknown:
Oh my god. You just get overwhelmed with all this, don't you? It's beyond belief. I know. I just kinda step back for it and wait to see things develop. Yes?
[02:40:00] Unknown:
Yes. I wanted to thank you for bringing up Michael Hudson today. I always enjoyed listening to him and Max Kaiser, but I also wanted to give kudos to a woman, and her name is Ellen Brown. And she's also very good. She wrote the book, The Web of Debt, and Yes. Just really good, I actually read her vaguely. Where we are.
[02:40:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I remember her vaguely. We hadn't seen her around too much in recent years, but I remember that web of debt.
[02:40:34] Unknown:
Yeah. She she Yeah. They're they're all getting older now. Right.
[02:40:39] Unknown:
And now just for our audience here, now the whole thing is designed around making us property and this scheme that we've uncovered and how to exit. The whole thing's based on this right here. Everything we talked about. Because, the money, the credit, the currency always comes from this. And if they didn't have that, they'd have to be ponying up their own currency, to circulate and do business with. So this is a way for them to do it and then just nothing but scrape three, four, or five layers of compound interest right off slap off the top. Yep. Very slick.
Yep. Give them credit. Roger. Thank you. Yes, sir. Larry. Yes, sir. Hey, Larry.
[02:41:23] Unknown:
Yeah. So I've been, following this, this whole Charlie Kirk assassination, watching a lot of videos, listening to a lot of, a lot of interviews. And the latest is, and I think you you mentioned this, early on in the program, that what they're thinking now, a lot of these investigative, you know, journalists, Really, it's the the alternative media is the free press now in our country. And so everybody's trying to figure this out. Everybody wants the truth. And so the now the theory is that the, the lapel microphone, which is about the size of a pager, that was underneath his shirt. So that little black, I don't know. It's like an oval shaped black item that's on on Charlie's right chest.
That is a magnet. And and so what's connected on the other side of his shirt we just is the
[02:42:30] Unknown:
who
[02:42:31] Unknown:
did who just said that? I'm sorry. Didn't we weren't we just talking about the magnet and the and the lapel microphone and all that? Somebody just Yeah. Yeah. Talking about that.
[02:42:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Right. I'm I am I am going somewhere with this, though. So, anyway, there's a video of of a guy that's in the crowd, and it almost looks like he's pushing a button on a remote Yeah. Control Yeah. Which corresponds with the explosion, and that would explain the the big bubbling of of Charlie Kirk's shirt. And, the the, the what a lot of a lot of people believed was a blood spurt because they believed that he was shot from the back of the head. And then the, where the blood gushed out, that would be the exit wound. Well, that turned that blood spurt turns out to be his necklace.
And so the necklace came disattached from the front of his shirt, and this would explain that. And it and it went up backward because of that little explosion or whatever that was that was going on inside Charlie Kirk's shirt. But anyway, here's here's something that, I learned that's very interesting. So this, there's this, this news program called Redact It, and, and they're interviewing, a gentleman by the name of Ryan Mada, m a d a, and he's an investigative journalist. So he and a friend were looking at the timelines, and did did you ever notice that when we when we review all of this footage of of the assassin running on the roof, We are never shown him lying in the prone position taking the shot, and it's already been proven that that camera that was mounted catching this assassin running on the on the roof, that that had total view of the entire roof.
And so for whatever reason, the FBI is not allowing us to see this assassin lying down in the prone position, taking the shot, then quickly standing up, wrapping the alleged rifle in this black towel, and then begin running in a full sprint. The only thing we see is this full sprint. So what what they did was this Ryan Mata and a friend of his, they were looking at the timeline down to the second. And they said that that that assassin, that alleged assassin, was already in a full sprint three seconds after the shot went off. And that's just nearly impossible for someone to be in a prone position and then stand up and then put their gun in a some type of black sheath and begin running.
So there's something off there. It just gets it just gets more mysterious
[02:45:23] Unknown:
by the day. Every day, I it's a incredible situation. Agree with you. So wow. Good show today. Anybody else got anything Hey, Roger. We can talk more about see what develops on the, Charlie Brown thing till tomorrow. Hey, Roger. Yes. I know that yes, Roger. Yeah. Just hold on. Dave's first.
[02:45:46] Unknown:
It's okay.
[02:45:47] Unknown:
Thank you. Hey. How are you doing? Oh, it's alright. Anyway, you know, I'm not I don't think I mentioned this before, but, you know, Jim Fetzer, nobody died at Sandy Hook. That guy, you know, he's been studying this kind of stuff for thirty years, and he first thought that Charlie was shot and believed the official narrative. And then he start breaking down all the videos with experts that that's what he does. You know, he ain't the expert, really. He he is, but he isn't. He brought in a couple people. He's got a two hour video on Rumble, and and he he says he proves that Charlie wasn't shot. It was a psyop.
The blood, you know, that Candace says the the video somebody sent her from behind says there's no blood anywhere. Not just behind. There's no blood anywhere. That's my that's my question.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Myrrh See, and on top of that played a book. Of that, Dave, it's a white banner or whatever the material is behind him. Any spray from that hit of a high velocity projectile would have sent blood all over that thing.
[02:46:56] Unknown:
All over. It would have been all over the stage, all over his beautiful brand new white shoes. There wasn't a drop of blood anywhere except what oozed from behind his neck. And Fetzer says there's a you could see the the blood pack, you know, the squib or whatever, behind in his back, and that's what oozed out in in the blood. Now he's saying that you can see the video where the blood lay it's layered. It doesn't absorb into any fabric, and it's just it's AI. And now, Maria Lassiter, she's a coroner in a county near, in Missouri.
And she was a nurse for, you know, thirty or forty years, and she's been the coroner since just before COVID. She said she's seen thousands and thousands and thousands of dead bodies. She said there's no dead bodies in any of these photos, right, of Charlie and all that. And then this guy, James, from Vancouver, I I think I told you about this guy. He calls in into a lot of RBM stuff, and he's a cohost on some shows. And Yeah. I didn't like him at first, and I heard him say several years ago that he was a Jew, a Catholic, and a Mason.
I I got a chuckle out of that. Anyway, this guy yeah. This guy brings some really good intel to a lot of shows that always seems to come true. He said that, hit Charlie's father and I didn't get it. He either designed the Fiftieth Floor of the Trump Tower or or the is Trump Tower all 50 floors, or is it bigger than that?
[02:48:43] Unknown:
In New York? No idea. I have no idea. He he he was involved in it, Dave. He he said designed.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
Yeah. He he designed it. So I don't know if he designed the Fiftieth Floor or the whole building, but, what, Larry said, you know, about the Charlie's wife. You know, Trump had her go apply to the, turning point, you know, outfit for a job because he, you know and now the what's come out is that when she was 17, she got a letter in the mail that and I don't remember who I didn't get all the the details, but somebody requested that she run for, miss Arizona. She was an old pageant, you know, and she didn't do that her whole life. Most of them girls, they're in it since they're little kids. Right? Right. Right. When she was 17, she got a letter. And so she decides, oh, okay. And she runs and wins. So you know she's got a connection to Trump. And, Charlie, was best friends with Donald Junior.
And, you know, he he started stomping for for Trump when when, what's his name lost, from Florida because he that's what Charlie did. He went to Florida out of high school, and he and he started working for DeSantis, presidential campaign. And then he start working for Trump. And, you know, they say that that Charlie's wife comes from money, and she learned how to make financial trust since she was 18 years old. And that the turning point was a 05/2001 c three, and they were reporting This comes from James in Vancouver. They were reporting 80 to a $100,000,000 in that business since 2012 every year.
And it when Charlie allegedly was shot, it only had 40,000,000 in it. So the the there he's you know, he believes that she was, you know, putting this money in offshore trust funds, every year, and Charlie's worth about a billion dollars. And now Fetzer believes that Trump saw them you know, he found out about Butler before Butler happened, and he orchestrated the whole thing. He flipped the script, and Butler and the guy that did it all, they Fetzer says was in the front row, at Charlie's talk in Utah. And so he's the guy that
[02:51:32] Unknown:
I I think that's the one Stu Peters is fingering as the trigger mechanism button.
[02:51:38] Unknown:
Yeah. But that was Alex. Well, Alex
[02:51:41] Unknown:
went off well, Alex went off on him yesterday. He called Stu Peters all kinds of ugly names. They're Alex is like that, Andy. And, and he said, what are you doing fingering this guy for murder on on, you know, on international television? So that was his big beef yesterday of how do you Well, he wasn't did he finger him for murder or or the the, Well, he accused alleged murder that woman. He accused him of doing something that coordinated
[02:52:10] Unknown:
the explosion on the on the my on Charlie. K? That was on that money. All that all that explosion did was was release the blood pack on Charlie's back to make it look like Charlie was dead because Maria Lassiter, the the coroner, she says there wasn't a drop of blood when they picked him up. No. Well, let me back up a bit. She says here in Missouri, you know, we have a football game, and there's at least one, ambulance on standby in case somebody, you know, gets hurt in the crowd or in the you know, has a heart attack or a kid gets hurt on the field. And everything they do, there there wasn't an ambulance there. You know? And then after they the the guy on the team, Charlie's team picked up Charlie's chair that he was sitting in when he was allegedly shot. He stood stood on top of it and took the camera down from behind Charlie that that had got everything. And then he took it to a table.
Place. Let me finish my sentence. Then he took it to a table. Your sentence, Dave. No. Darn. But as long as I it takes, man. What the hell? I got the floor. He took the, you know, the out of the camera. He took the memory stick out of the camera and then walked away. So I'll yield there. Go ahead, Joe. You got the floor, mister important.
[02:53:34] Unknown:
Go ahead, Joe. Joe. Okay. Well, anyway, we'll it remains to be seen as all these things become exposed, man. And day by day, it gets, it gets cloudier by the day and yet a little bit clearer. So I just wait until the next shoe drops. Yes. Was that you, Larry?
[02:54:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Have you ever heard of the Lebanon pager explosives? Yes.
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Well, I know what they did over there with them in Lebanon. Yes.
[02:54:12] Unknown:
And so on September
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Netanyahu gave Trump a gold one when he visited last time.
[02:54:21] Unknown:
Probably. Paid,
[02:54:23] Unknown:
on September 17 he did. He presented it with him as a gift in the Oval Office. A pager? Go ahead. A golden pager? Yes. A gold gold pager.
[02:54:35] Unknown:
Interesting. So on 09/17/2024, thousands of pagers belonging to Hezbollah members anything. Detonated simultaneously. The explosives had been covertly implanted into the pagers' batteries during the supply chain process. A long planned intelligence operation attributed to Israel Israel's Mossad, intelligence service. And then there's the walkie talkie explosions. A day later, on September 18, a second wave of explosions targeted walkie talkies, killing and injuring hundreds more. And then this one, victims and casualties. The explosions resulted in at least forty two deaths and nearly three thousand injuries. Many victims suffered severe injuries to their hands, face, and eyes, and some required amputations.
Civilians were among the casualties, including children and health care workers.
[02:55:34] Unknown:
Yes. The wonderful Israelis.
[02:55:37] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:55:38] Unknown:
Comment. God's chosen people for sure. Go ahead, Joe. Roger, I would really appreciate it if you would place this thing a little better because I've been trying to get in here for ten minutes. Well, I had Joe hadn't heard your voice or I would've recognized you. I'm sorry. I can't get o I can't yell loud enough to get over them. Well, you you got four people running near the show, and I just can't take it anymore. You got four people doing what? Running the show. Well, I recognize Dave. He was telling the story. I admit it was a great a bit verbose, but, were you trying to correct something he was saying or what?
And and we read and we read and we read. Nobody can get a word in edgewise that has anything that's important to say. You have about four people that all they have to say is the most important Joe, I'm I'm I'm sorry. Joe, I do the best I can, man. I didn't hear your voice, and I recognize you. But you got it now. Well, please come forward because I might and say your please come forward and say your peace, Joe. We do the best we can, man, with what we got. Okay? Well, I guess Joe decided to leave. Alright. Well, I couldn't help, but I didn't hear his voice. Yes, Sketch?
[02:57:07] Unknown:
I'd like to call a vote. I read in the in the chat here is I nominate Larry Tafoya, the FBI, to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole of Charlie Kirk. So I think we need to take a vote and have him do some foyas. I appreciate you today. Thanks so much, and have a good day.
[02:57:26] Unknown:
That was Joe's that was from Joe? No. Hey, Roger. Knows what Joe's comment was gonna be. What what what the hell is going on here with the program?
[02:57:38] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. The problem Can you hear me? Is that it's not full duplex. Yeah. So when somebody is talking, particularly if they're yelling and they're speaking loudly, then nobody else can get through as long as they're talking. And if they don't stop to take a breath, nobody else is gonna be able to get in. It's the nature of the beast. It's not like a telephone. It's not full duplex. Well, you need to explain that to Joe, would you? So and also his phone is faint. Sometimes you can't hear him. He's not upfront like some of these other connections.
[02:58:09] Unknown:
So that's part of the reason too. Yes, sir. Quick. We've been on an extra hour. What do we got, please? You mean me? You mean me? I will yeah. Go ahead. Go for it.
[02:58:20] Unknown:
Oh, oh, okay. Okay. So I wanna just present an idea, from a bus excuse me? Are you No. Go ahead. Need to go, Roger? Should I not?
[02:58:35] Unknown:
Well, I I've been doing running a running running a radio show from the other side of the microphone is not sitting there listening. And for two, now three hours, I have to concentrate 100% on everything. And and and should things like this with Joe happen? And at the end of a couple of hours, it's very draining. All you people have to do is listen. If you wanna go take a leak, you can go to the bathroom and take a leak. I can't do that. So, yeah, after a couple of hours, it's really draining because it's demanding if you're gonna do it right and good. And I tried to. So go and and so, Doug, can you be brief?
[02:59:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'll just say this. Today's show with you and Brent and, Paul is just great. You know? Yeah. Well, both Pauls, of course. Of course. Yeah. Wiener, just the just the, you know, nobody really thinks about him. Actually,
[02:59:48] Unknown:
the the magician in a sense behind the whole thing just to keep an eye on People think of me all the time. Wait. Wait. Wait. I'm good. People think of me all the time. I'm good.
[03:00:00] Unknown:
That's okay. It's just that was a a thankful, loving sentiment. Anyway okay. So I'll make this quick. See, I'm looking at this correct thing, and, and then I'm comparing it. Well, I I drew a connection. My brain did. Okay. Here's the latest. We had, the nine one one thing was big because Oklahoma City and, etcetera. And I so how I'm distinguishing this, examining it, is by the reaction of, you know, did, you know, did a 100 people show up in Oklahoma for this thing? Or but in this case here, like COVID, when JFK died, I was in grammar school.
And when the news was cast given to us, I personally, as a boy, cried. Because our president, this guy I didn't know, really didn't really care about, but he was a symbol of the country I'm living and the life I'm in. So every aspect, every other major thing, what I'm speaking to here is that when something goes so global, I never even heard of Charlie Kirk until it just kinda trickled in after he was dead, and I was like, wow. I never even knew that, of him or anything. But the the, response is over it's over any limit. You could it's just like, you know, the pope died or something. It's a it's a tipping point event.
[03:02:07] Unknown:
Life from his death on will never be the same.
[03:02:11] Unknown:
But but I'm comparing it to, JFK and, Oklahoma City and 911. And I think these things, there has to be something special, Roger. Some power or demonic, you know, people praying for this to have this kind of evil, come into existence and just hurt so many peep but it's a repetition. So I just
[03:02:46] Unknown:
yeah. Go ahead. People all over the globe. The reactions have been astounding to me. Obviously, he is Well, that's what I'm I I never That's what I'm See, you and I would never have paid attention to him because he was he was Israeli. He was he he was Zionist oriented. So I would never Well, I didn't even know that. Very long. Oh, we'll see. Okay. Well, I
[03:03:08] Unknown:
no. I no. I would whole thing. You know, you and I are the same, cloth,
[03:03:14] Unknown:
so I wouldn't either. Well, see, that's the whole crux of it is he's been starting to question Israel for the last couple of months since Epstein broke. And it seems like he was breaking with Israel and the support he had always given them that he was known for, and he evidently told people in his inner circle he was scared he was gonna get assassinated
[03:03:39] Unknown:
by Israel. Well, here's my yeah. Here's my thing, Roger. You know, they kinda you know, I've been learning about this since this happened. I asked my son-in-law, I said, he's 35 or six around there. And I said, what's this thing with Charlie Kirk? Because I had no idea. This, whatever it's oh, Turning Point Turning Point USA. Right. Well, to to me, it looks like a, a business to an organization.
[03:04:19] Unknown:
Well, wait. That's what it looks like. That's the bill. Well, that's was that the question he had? Was that the memo that Candace Owens got from inside that said he was not only concerned about the disbursement of the funds, but the acquisition of the funds and their origins and stuff? So was he being used as a money laundering platform? These are all kinds of stuff we don't know. It's just come up in the last day or two, Paul, Doug. So hey, Doug. Stay tuned. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Man, I mean, I wouldn't wanna be in in I wouldn't wanna be in the position of
[03:04:55] Unknown:
Moses or, you know, Elijah, Jeremiah, having to stand up for things. I don't I'm I'm not saying he was that. But
[03:05:06] Unknown:
Was he turning away from his support of little bastard Zionism state of Israel and gonna expose them? And they wanted to kill him before he was able to do that in Marjorie. And now they can take over and go, well, let's let Ben Shapiro come in and take over Turning Point USA. You know? So it's a there's a lot of stuff surrounding this, and it gets,
[03:05:33] Unknown:
seriously So so, anyway, they're finished.
[03:05:35] Unknown:
Sure. Well, can you please manage? I've been on for thirty hours.
[03:05:40] Unknown:
Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying that there seems to be something tied with this crook thing that has some type of mega supernatural control that I mean, people are reacting to this in other countries. This is, like, insane. It's ridiculous. But it's happened. And so I'm just comparing it to well, for me, I mean, this is brand new.
[03:06:19] Unknown:
It's obviously a huge global event that touched many people of all nationalities, ethnicities, etcetera. So maybe that's an indication of what's going on and the change we're going through in the world with people in general trying to get back to some spirituality and get away from the evil. Yeah. Exactly. Don't know what it is, but they know it's there.
[03:06:45] Unknown:
Well, I just know from personal experience that if you are lost and you feel you want something and you're called, to this thing, it doesn't go to everyone, that, you call out and, you get some, information. And, if you follow, it changes your life totally, 180 degrees. The the Creator, our, the Heavenly Father, the Creator, Yahweh, Yahuwah, whoever you call him, he exists. He's in total control. He's the being that created every molecule that everything is made from. So that is humbling if you accept that. So, just I I really I I have to try to avoid, just the rhetoric of, you know, this Charlie Kirk thing.
Oh, so let me say this. Oh oh, fuck. Kirk. Kirk. You know what the, I think it's Irish or or Scottish. You know what the definition of Kirk is
[03:08:07] Unknown:
in that language? No, sir. No. No. No. Please tell us. It's
[03:08:12] Unknown:
it's church.
[03:08:14] Unknown:
Oh, Kirk is church. Church.
[03:08:17] Unknown:
K. Yeah. The true church.
[03:08:20] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Alright. Well, he's just an interesting man. You know? Yep. That's okay. But, can I go eat lunch now?
[03:08:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I wish I could buy it for you if I could. But No. Well see you later.
[03:08:35] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Doug. Larry, is that you?
[03:08:40] Unknown:
Yes, sir. So I found something.
[03:08:44] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[03:08:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Have you heard of the Charles Charlie Kirk murder snake eyes conspiracy theory?
[03:08:55] Unknown:
No. And I'm not sure I'm gonna hear it right now. Why don't you bring it back to '98.
[03:09:01] Unknown:
Oh, that that movie that movie, I saw Martin today in a clip this morning. So yes. Yeah. So what's interesting is it says here,
[03:09:09] Unknown:
it refers to an Internet conspiracy theory based on similarities between the shooting of right wing political pundit Charlie Kirk in September 2025 and the and the plot of the 1998 thriller film Snake Eyes, starring Nicholas Cage, a politician character named Charles Kirkland is fatally shot in the neck at the live event, a professional boxing match in the movie, mirroring the death of Charlie Kirk. Now, one more sentence or two. This is where it gets interesting. Others claim that the assassination in the movie also occurred on September 10, but the claim was false due to a misreading of a sign in the film that instead said September 19.
The sign in question also showed a boxer nicknamed Tyler the executioner, which conspiracy theorists linked to the name, of Kirk's suspected shooter, Tyler Robinson. Yep. That's beyond coincidental.
[03:10:13] Unknown:
Yep. Heard that this morning. Okay. Well, I'll see y'all tomorrow. Have a wonderful, Friday. And, we'll see Thank you, Roger. Pleasure. Comes up between now and then. We'll we never know. Thank you, Sketch.
[03:10:25] Unknown:
Hey, Raj. Raj, one more thing. Paul. Paul. Paul. Yes, sir. Run. Run. Run away. Thank you. Enjoy your lunch.
[03:10:36] Unknown:
Bye. And, Larry Larry, I I wanna ask you. Have you looked into Operation Black Echo? Because I hear a lot of echoes. Look up Operation Black Echo. You'll have a better understanding what you're going through.
[03:10:58] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. I will look into it. Appreciate it.
[03:11:02] Unknown:
So I'm wondering, the last the guy who was saying look into Black Echo. Hello?
[03:11:13] Unknown:
Operation Black Echo.
[03:11:17] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Okay. Operation Black Echo and, well, it caught me off guard, and I wasn't even able to say what this is all repeat what you said.
[03:11:38] Unknown:
It's about, trauma based mind control. It it it directs you down rabbit holes.
[03:11:52] Unknown:
Okay. Operation what? What's that called? It's not operation rabbit hole, is it? No. Operation
[03:12:02] Unknown:
black, b l a c k, like the color. Yeah. I know. Spell black. Well, I'm making sure you hear me the right word, not I do. I spelling. Echo, e c h o. Yeah.
[03:12:17] Unknown:
Okay. So this is, kinda witnessing a particular thing going on. Is that correct? You know, some some type of, mind control or technology or whatever against the car some somewhat common, just to anybody. Right? Is that it? Thought I was talking, but, no, the same.
[03:13:58] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, it seems like, pretty much the, the gas has run out of just about everybody. So I'm taking this thing down. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and Brent Allen Winters, the Friday edition. We had Paul English, our buddy from across the drink, join us today. Lots of interesting conversation, and, of course, we went down the Charlie Kirk rabbit hole yet again. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer, for sure longer today. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That is thematrix,d0cs,.com.
Go there. Pack a lunch. Stay the day. You'll find all kinds of cool stuff. I'm Paul. Thanks for joining us. Catch you later. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:15:17] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Friday kickoff: Roger welcomes Brent Winters early
Origin story: How Roger met Brent and the show’s chemistry
On "experts," humility, and lessons from a math professor
Honoring all men, juries, and the resilience of common law
Why Russia aligned with civil/Canon law: 1453 Constantinople to Moscow
From Justinian to Bismarck and Napoleon: the march of Roman code
Religion and war: "die with honor" vs. "live with honor"
Christian culture, critical mass, and Charlie Kirk controversy preview
Allegations around funding, security, and theories on Charlie Kirk
Lighter interlude: language, pronunciation, and nicknames
Bluegill, gizzards, and home cooking—down-home detour
Listener Gary’s toxic red cedar ordeal and recovery
Usury 101: Biblical framing and two key principles
Grain, fungibility, and banking analogies
Disraeli, deep state, and the power of words
Debt, standing, and a wild 2008 bond rescue account
Inside the courtroom: banks, two sets of books, and fiduciary duty
Jubilee, creditor class, and forgiving debts
Basel III explained: gold as Tier 1 and bank positioning
Wycliffe, Tyndale, Geneva Bible: Word and common law
Stories sell: advocacy, parables, and courtroom persuasion
Are taxes usury? Lawful taxes, extortion, and nuance
Wrap with Brent; prayers, culture, and upcoming sessions
Open lines: Land’s End, UK digital IDs, global events
Audience dive: Charlie Kirk hypotheses and timelines
Closing reflections and sign-off
