In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles and guest Brent Allen Winters delve into a variety of topics, focusing on the intricacies of law and government. They discuss the concept of government as a corporate entity, the historical context of the Magna Carta, and the role of the Supreme Court in contemporary legal issues. The conversation also touches on the cultural and historical influences that have shaped American law and governance, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's legal rights and heritage.
Listeners are treated to a lively discussion on the nature of political power and the influence of historical legal traditions on modern governance. The hosts explore the philosophical underpinnings of law, the impact of historical events on current legal systems, and the importance of maintaining a critical perspective on governmental actions. The episode is rich with historical anecdotes and legal insights, providing a thought-provoking exploration of the intersection between law, history, and personal freedom.
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Tax the rich, Alvin, as we we will, take another swing or stab or however you want to alliterate that here today on Friday, June. And, of course, Friday, it means mister Winters is either with us at the time we open the show or he'll be here fashionably late. So he's probably pulling his horse up outside and getting ready to hitch it up to the old hitch and post. Francine's with us, his engineer and producer. Paul's with us, and he likes to come out about this time and tell us all of the stations that, that are helping us extend our reach here. We wanna give them always proper recognition and credit, don't we, mister Paul? Oh, yes. We do.
Senior senior Paul.
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But we have a light compliment today. Oh. We have radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paula, across the drink. We have eurofolkradio.com, which is brought to us by pastor Eli James and Global Voice Radio Network. The links to EuroFolk and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs,d0cs,.com, as well as the links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. That's about it. That's all I've got. You know, Raj, I've discovered that, until Brent gets here, I've discovered that, cutting back on coffee has been kinda helpful. You know, I've been kinda sorta, switching, off coffee for orange juice in the morning. Yeah. Okay. I find the days Mhmm. That I have orange juice instead of coffee that Uh-huh. The day just seems to go better, you know. I see. More calm, more relaxed.
My nutritionist is saying it's the the vitamin c, but I kinda think it's the vodka.
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Might be. Might be the vodka. And I understand that that, that that coffee can be you know, a lot of people's suspicion it might be bad for you, but, you know, let's look at how we've grown up over the last, I don't know, thirty, forty years. I'm assuming most people are in that in that age. Well, you know, they tell us that, oh, no. Coffee's bad for you. Oh, no. Coffee's good for you. Oh, no. This is bad for you. Oh, no. Butter's good for you. I mean, and you get this, the old, let's spin them around here for most of our life, and, I don't know. I don't know.
I think coffee, I I don't know. I I know this. I like it. And I've found a particular brand here, and it's not a a special brand. It's pretty much one of the commercial brands of coffee like Folgers or something up there that is really good here that I particularly like. And, I'll have two glasses in the morning. This is one of the reasons I try and get out of here so quickly usually. I have two two cups of coffee in the morning, then I have a a shake that I eat, drink with, old, some, vitamin mineral fusion and two raw eggs and all all, other stuff in there. And, it would that I take with my vitamins.
By the end of the show, I haven't. So you guys can get up and go go to the watering hole. You know? And I well, I can, but I generally try not to. So, boy, by the end of the show, it's like, man, please, I gotta get out of here and I mean, quick. So, that's one of the reasons, of course. Mhmm. So let's see. Anyway, enough of that banter. Let's see what's happening here this morning. I guess yesterday was kind of a light day, wasn't it, for events? Let's see. Has mister Winters got he hadn't joined us yet, has he? Yeah. Tied the he's probably still getting the saddle off the horse or something.
Of course, this is our program is for new students overall that have a what is that little cricket thing going on? Somebody might have their mic open and their turn signal on. It sounded like a turn signal. It sure did. Thank you. Mhmm. But the program is for new folks. We haven't had a lot of those lately. We had a couple. We had a real good week this week with Michael asking his tax questions that took up pretty much the whole show on Tuesday. And then, and then Travis pulls in from Alaska on Wednesday with that and his sister death is of his of his brother-in-law and all of the suggestions that we gave him.
You know, I tried to say I I don't give advice. I give suggestions. And and the reason is and and I tell you all this is your decision. Okay? I know Roger Sales told me to do this. Blah blah blah blah. No. I'm I'm suggesting this may be an option for you. I mean, as I've told you many times before, my job here, as the way I see it anyway, is, to get show you you've got a choice that you more than likely didn't know you had. If you don't wanna partake in it and and and further your personal situation, well, that's alright with me. You can go and pull the pink cloud back out. You know? It's like going back to bed. You know? You go back and you pull that pink cloud over and everything's nice and warm in there. You can go back and do that if you want.
But, if yes, ma'am. If you do wanna go forward, we will help you. And here's probably an example. Thor, is that you? Oh, Nancy. Okay. We all sound kinda somewhat like morning Nancy. Oh, no. I have not. It came down. They let it out. I'm I'm pretty anxious to hear what it said. I didn't hear the r Harrison talking about it this morning. I didn't hear anything last night. What can you glean us a little info off of it? Okay. Oh, so it wasn't the birthright hold hold. Let's just get this straight. It wasn't the birthright citizenship, issue.
It was the district court judge being able to is to issue some sort of an injunction that barred the whole country from doing it. Well, that's a big point. So I wanna hear what they said. Six to three. I'll bet they said no no and slapped them down. What'd they say? Oh, you don't know? Okay. Well uh-huh. Okay. Well, thank you. Because some of the listeners in the audience can go scrambling around and find a little info on that and read it to us because I thought they also had a case on birthright citizenship. And so this is, I think, the last week, maybe maybe they can do it till the July 1.
But what's going on here is they open up in October, first, October, and they hear those cases, you know, the Supreme Court gets 10,000 or more a request for cert they call it certiorari, which is I'm requesting that you hear this case, basically, the way I understand it. And they can they can only hear so many cases, so they only grant certiorari to a very small amount of cases. Usually, those are have some sort of a basis they like. One of the basis is if it's a case of first impression that's never been heard before. Okay? They like those. And then another one, unless it's unless it's American Samoa, then they don't seem to like it too much.
And the other one they take and like a lot is what they call diversity of opinion. And that's when two cases have gone up to an appellate circuit, and one appellate circuit has ruled one way and another appellate circuit a circuit has ruled the other way on a similar set or same set of circumstances. Well, they really like those. Okay? And so because then they can settle, settle an issue. But I thought they did accept one on birthright citizenship that didn't necessarily have to do with this injunction thing. So it'll be real interesting to see because that one's that has not been heard since Wong Kim Ark, to my knowledge.
That's over a 100 years ago. They've gone to that issue. And and and the the situation was as we've learned here, because Wong Kim Ark is, for anybody that might be new, it's an eighteen ninety eight case. It's USB Wong Kim Ark, three words. And, obviously, he was a Chinaman. And, that was a really important case. All the Obama birthers, that was the main fallback for them. I guess they didn't read the dissent very thoroughly. But, anyway, it's a really important case. And one of the most important cases from the standpoint of these issues, citizenship, denizenship, you know, all that kind of stuff is, really covered thoroughly in that.
And so that's where, professor Eastman from the West Coast, is a constitutional attorney at a little college out there. And, he's the one that said this birthright citizenship never used to be like the baby boomers application. You know, where Mexican mom or Canadian mom, comes over the border, has the baby. The baby's a citizen of The United States, but the parents are still foreign nationals. That's the situation that Eastman says, well, I can't find where it came from. It just appeared. It just appeared in the in the late in the fifty sixties area. Well, that would conform perfectly with Brown versus Board of Education and what Education and what that did overturning Plessy. And so it's very interesting. I hope they do. The big difference there, and I think if there is a case there, and I I believe there probably is, what they're gonna rule is that Wong Kim Ark's parents were they were still Chinese citizens, but they were in essence residents. They'd been established in California.
And and so he was born under that circumstance, so he would fit more of the traditional anchor baby idea. His parents were here not coming off, dropping him, hightailing it back to Mexico so they can bring 225 of their favorite relatives into The US on the backs of this baby. And that'll be interesting. I think that's the way the court will rule on that. I'm I'm quite interested to see. Thank you, Nancy. If anybody is oh, yes, ma'am. Moore. She's one of the witches. But uh-huh. Well, it's a different it uses that issue, but it takes a different view, it sounds like. Brent is Brent is Brent our our old buddy, mister common lawyer, showed up yet?
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Didn't look like he had.
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Oh, well. Okay. Well, he's I'll tell you. Fashionably fashionably late. He'll be here in a minute.
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Lot more
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Well well, what I was trying to get to is see that well, I hope so. They dump all these cases here before they go on vacation. They're on vacation, July, September, and August, and then come back in October when they reconvene. So, they get a nice ninety day vacation. How about that, Nancy? Rank has its privileges. And so, anyway, we'll, if any of the audience can find that or report on it, we'd like to hear a little more of the specifics. I hope they shut that down. You say Trump won a victory, they said? Okay, Paul. You didn't you're, you didn't get all the buttons, man. No. Yeah.
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I I missed you. Thank you. And you and you I get it. And you actually bud.
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And you actually put in for a raise. I can't believe it. Okay. We'll get that button straightened out. Thank you, miss interruptus. Maybe the whole audience can hear everything. So, anyway, that's a little little details. Just paying attention to little details. Yeah. Anyway, it'll be interesting if we can get now Murr is the one that could probably search this up and give us a definitive answer on, what, they said or at least a thumbnail on this release today. So if you, Murr, you or others are self inclined, we'd love to get release? On the the Supreme Court dump dump dumping a case on the it it dealt with birth rate citizenship, but it really had to do with this, district court ability to put out a nationwide injunction
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on something. Okay. I'll try to find that. Nancy heard it,
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on, this morning on Fox. Thank you, Nancy.
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You're welcome. Sorry about that, Raj. I was supposed to send a free conference call to bus a three, and I accidentally hit the a two button instead. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh, jeez. Put you on restrictions. I was close.
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I was close.
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You're going to have to train on these buttons. Okay. Got it, Roger. You weren't Trump and hit the wrong button for Iran. Do what? Well, that was k. Roger. Dave and Larry. I said Paul needs to start putting the vodka back in his coffee. Okay. There you go. That orange juice is messing him up. Thank you, Dave. Thank you. You might have to send him you might have to send him some preliminary
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AA meetings. Yeah. Maybe.
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Larry, you were trying to say something?
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Yeah. I I think this is what you're looking for. Okay. Here we go. Just came through. The Supreme Court sided with the Trump administration and curbing nationwide injunctions granted against his birthright citizenship order in a six to three ruling with the court's Republican appointees in the majority and the Democratic appointees dissenting. These injunctions known as universal injunctions likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to federal courts. Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in a decision that didn't decide the underlying legality of president Donald Trump's attempt to restrict birthright citizenship.
Litigation will continue on the issue in lower courts, and individual plaintiffs can still bring additional challenges against the order.
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Okay. So the birthright citizenship issue is not really up on the table. It's still in the lower courts. Did I understand that correctly?
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That's correct. That's correct, Roger.
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Hey. Hey. There he pulled up that horse and got him hitched up. Hey, buddy. Yeah. Well, that's pretty good. Did they release any others birthright citizenship issue dealing, it sounds like, with the injunction ability for nationwide impact of a district court. Is that pretty correct, Brent?
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Yeah. That's that's all it was, and the court's gonna as courts always pretty much try to do is stick to the procedural stuff and stay away from making decisions unless they absolutely have to. Uh-huh. And that's the same thing to do, not just go off and make decisions about everything that might come up related to the the question before the court. Uh-huh. Judge don't want to do that because it's just it's hard for them. So they'd rather just stick to one thing at a time, and and they did. And they grew right, and it wasn't it was a no brainer. It's not like this is a matter of opinion. Right. Were you gonna say something, Roger? Well, I
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I I I was, but I forgot. So, you know, I I wanna hear your explanation of this. I also wanna say, was it the three wait. This is what I wanted to say. Amy, Conan, Brian finally decided on the side of the president that appointed her. Finally. She's been very, very recalcitrant in doing that.
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Well well, girls aren't girls aren't, the female of the species, as we say, is not stupid. They're they can be fickle, though. Oh.
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That's the point. And And cunning and cunning.
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Yeah. It's not like they they're not thinking it through. She's but bottom line is if you get an injunction against your former spouse for spousal abuse, the injunction does not apply to all spouses in the country that are abusing people. It's that it's that stupid, and that's what this even got before the Supreme Court of the United States. That's a great analogy. Thank you, Brent.
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Classic.
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That's what equity is. Uh-huh. And they're acting equity acts against persons, not things. I see. Law acts against things. And so here, they have an injunction, that's equity, that acts against a person. And the courts don't have the authority to act against every person all over The United States. Correct. Yeah. That's all it amount. And that just In other words, he could he could stop that in his districts, but not nationwide. Right? No. Can't even stop it in all of his district. Oh. That's that's good. Act against the persons that are before the court, period,
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end of sentence, end of paragraph. Okay. So it's just those individuals. Well, good.
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Getting too animated here about it, but I get oh, you're getting sense. The questions that come up before courts in most cases are something that a third grade child could decide. Mhmm. I'm using hyperbole to make a point, but people wanna fight, and so we have courts for that reason. Not all questions. Some questions are turn on a fine point of law, but this was not wasn't one of those. It it was just a simple matter of just upholding the law.
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Is this the only one they released today, or were there some other ones? Because they've saved the important ones till last year. Is today the last day they've got to release them, or can they get till the June?
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Oh, that's what I seem to remember, but I'm I'm not sure. I didn't look into that. But there it says here I'm just looking at some of the cases. Court sides sides with Maryland parents over LGBTQ storybooks. Well, that sounds good. In other words, parents the Yes. The queer crowd is not allowed to try to, seduce our children into sodomy again. Okay. That's good. Supreme Court's okay. Fee subsidizing phone and Internet services. That sounds kinda complicated. I don't know why well, that's under the commerce clause probably.
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Yeah.
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Key part of Obamacare coverage requirements are preserved. Who knows what that is? Obamacare is dead on arrival. It was stillbirth. Nobody knows what it is. It's never been used as far as I know. I don't know anything about it. It's a tax, baby. It's a tax. Yeah. It's a tax, they said. But other than that, they just want more money. They don't give a hoot about people's health. They're the government. They want money. Get that through your heads. They don't care about the health of people of their own families. Why would they care about you or somebody else? Their consciences are often seared off to where they don't care about anything. And even if they did, what they care about is getting reelected.
Yeah. Let's get real here, friends. Quit, pussyfooting around with trying to give people the benefit of the doubt that are in politics. That's where our tradition is intended to work. They're intended to be caring about about their reelection, and they do. And then we have other things in place. We have to have a legislature. We can't avoid it, but let's recognize what they're out to do. That's why their families are in the toilet. You get in politics, you find out that everybody's in politics, their families go south real quick because their lives are ruined.
They live they swim in a sea of sewage. They can't get out of it. You say, well, but why do they do it? Because they love the money and the prestige And the power. Yeah. No question. I mean, even the our we call them the founding fathers. Go read about their families. You'll you'll, be shocked. John Adams. I I don't even wanna talk about it so bad. You devote your life to government, that's what you're gonna get. Yeah. That's what you're gonna get. You say, Brent, I know somebody in politics whose family is that not that way. Of course, that may be true. We don't let the exception swallow the rule. It's so ugly, so dangerous to be there. It's destructive of personality.
Ever try to talk to a to write a letter to a congressman, see if you get a meaningful response back. Oh, they'll send you a letter, but it it's just patronization.
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That's what you for your recent correspondence. Yeah.
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. We need that. We need the legislative branch. No. It's a service. We call it a service because it will destroy your family very likely. Go ahead, Roger. We had a, congressman. I don't remember which one. He was pretty good one there in Marietta.
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And we were back in the nineties when you thought there's some political influencer interaction that might help you. Uh-huh. So we're talking to the people at the satellite office in Marietta, not up there in DC. And, talking about, you know, core contacting them. And the gal gave us a secret, and she said, you know, we get faxes by the hundreds. Don't pay attention to them. We get emails even in the early days of email. You know, we get tons of those things. Don't really look at them. Get a letter. Don't really pay that much attention to it. Giving them the reply pile. Yeah. But if somebody sends us a message or, on a postcard that's handwritten Yeah. We pay attention to that because if somebody will take the time to sit down and do that, we think there's at least 40 or other 50 other people in the district that feel the same way.
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That error a 100, that's true. And I I was taught that too when I was in that ugly world. I'll tell you something else. The Bible makes it clear, no man can serve two masters. Yeah. His loyalty will go one way or the other. And if you're in elected public office as a congressman, you've got over 600,000 people that want to be your master. Let's say only 10 of them want to be your master. That but, no, it's a lot more than that. But whatever the case, it's more than one. And you're not gonna you're not gonna you can't. It is impossible as a matter of God's creation and law that you'd be loyal to each one of those people. That's not even possible. Mhmm. For what they want. Now you can be loyal to what? Do you take an oath to the people you represent? No.
You take an oath to support and defend our common law tradition as it is applied to government. That's called our constitution of The United States. That's what loyalty is to go through, and they don't care about all those other people. They got elected office believing that they were smarter than everybody else and knew what was right. Mhmm. And what they they even think they know the constitution, and they're gonna do what's right. Most of them never read it. But they got that in their head, that kinda arrogance. They're not gonna pay attention to anybody else. And if you don't have that kinda arrogance in your head when you run for congress, you'll never get in. Nobody will elect you. It's an odd set of circumstances that isn't it? Well, of course Yeah. But in this cruel twisted world, that's the way we do it, and it is a coequal branch of government. It is not, governing. It is not sovereign as they say it is in Europe, for instance. But here, it's coequal.
So let's deal with it. Let's be real about what politics is. Let's quit following them. Let's listen to what's going on and watch out for ourselves. Now you can stay one step ahead of them, I suppose. It's possible.
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Yeah. But I like that come out of her my people come out of her Sure. Issue. I like that direction.
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Yeah. I do too. I think that's, of course, that's the Bible. Come out. Don't be involved with that. The purpose of politics is to broil your mind and what's going on, get you addicted to listening to it and watching it. And once that happens, then you will neglect your responsibilities
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like they're neglecting theirs. Well, some people like politics better than football.
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That's right. And if but would be to God that we would have pinch pay attention to our personal affairs, some of us, the way we pay attention to politics. Yeah. Who really cares what those bozos are doing? It's the same thing over and over and over nonstop ad infinitum ad nauseam. Never stops. The the questions are always the same. How are we gonna steal more money from the to represent? That's the question. And they and how are we gonna fool them into doing that? That's what we're doing. It's a culture of lies. Go ahead, Roger. I saw I I think this will blow your dress up as they say.
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I saw a very, very capable candidate that has thrown his hat in the ring against Lindsey Sugar Bridges Graham. And he's getting a lot of support even in the early stages down there in the great state of South Carolina. And I'm sorry. I cannot remember his name, but I saw him interview the other day for thirty, forty minutes. And he's a real good example of somebody that can just knock Lindsey Graham out of the park. So get get that. And, also, mister Graham has, issued a bill in senate to show you that they still totally control the senate, And he now has 81 cosponsors, and it's something against Russia.
K. Given any any countries that support Russia, they put a a 100 or thousand percent tariff on that Russia deals with. So I don't know. I didn't get all the specifics. I just heard a little bit of it this morning. But, thank you, mister Graham. We couldn't get you out of there soon enough. What a blight on the state of South Carolina, quite frankly. But they come out they got some really squirrelly politicians that come out there. The female that was governor that, Nikki Haley, you know, little little Zionesses. And, it evidently is a group of the old moneyed power people in Charleston that are doing this and putting these people up.
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Mhmm.
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Well, that makes the point. You're making the point, Roger, that because politics is the way it is, because it's a necessary evil to have a congre legislative branch, then we just need to get them in and then change them as often as we can. But our laws are written, so that can't happen very easy. That's what has happened, because of those that are in. Once they're in, of course, they wanna stay in, and the laws they've been
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to favor them, it's almost impossible to oust them. It's too bad they didn't put term limits in the constitution and foresee that. The one her name came up last week. I remember somebody I really liked, very lovely lady named Helen Chenoweth, who was in the same class as you were gonna be in, the contract on America class. Mhmm. And, then she said, I'm she came in saying I'm only gonna serve one term. That was on her campaign platform if I remember correctly. She she got elected to the house two years, and then she left. And she went out and married a guy.
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Oh, and what Wayne Haig. You're familiar with him, Brent? Wayne Haig? I interviewed his son on the radio not long ago. Really? Yep. K. Well Wayne's
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gone now. Yeah. Well, so is she. She got killed in a car wreck, unfortunately. Lovely, lovely lady. And then he died of cancer, and I guess Wayne Hague is one of the people I heard him, people say this. He won his case at the Supreme Court posthumously. He won it after he died. Yeah. And there for the audience, his deal was he had a bunch of land out there in Nevada and was fighting with the feds over it and grazing rights, I believe, and all that stuff with the bureau land management. Isn't that correct?
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Yeah. That's correct. And Helen, did you say she was a sweet gal, but it destroyed her family too, her politicking. And she ended up she had been married before. She grew up on dairy farm, I believe, in Oregon. And, peach, good talker, of course, and likable and all. But she ended up marrying, mister Hague got out of politics. And I'll tell you, I I knew her. And then I was traveling. Of course, being in the mining business, I travel in remote areas sometimes. And I was, traveling through Nevada, remote area, about as remote as you can get halfway between Reno and lost but lost wages as we say. Mhmm.
And, I stopped in an old mining town there, had an old hotel in it. And the old hotel, it used to be it's almost a ghost town, but not quite. And it, is on the road between Reno and Vegas. And I got up, and I didn't stay in the old hotel. I had I had eaten there before, but it, you know, it's old. They tried to make it nice, but doggone when you stay there, when something that old, you just can't get the must out of it. Yeah. You smell musty. So I I'd eat there sometime, but I went there. Finally, finally, outside of town, they built a hotel. It was one of the chains. I forget which one.
And there were a couple of mom and pop operations there, but I went down for breakfast in the morning. And, you know, they had a place there where you could get a cereal and boiled eggs. You know how they do. Yeah. Continental continental breakfast. Yeah. Yeah. But they it's it's gotten so in some of these places. A little more than that. It's pretty nice, frankly. Mhmm. And they always have a gal there making sure food is out, you know. And I said something to the gal. And she said something back, and I could tell she wasn't American. She was from some place in Eastern Europe. And so I got talking to her, and I said, what are you doing way out here in, on the edge of the world? And she said, well, she said, I'm married to an American.
I said, well, who's that? And she said this fellow's name, his name was Haig. So it was Wayne Haig's daughter that was her daughter-in-law working in a hotel there, and that's where the ranch was, well, within driver distance. You know? Uh-huh.
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And, He had a a big parcel of land, I think, didn't he? Oh, yeah. Well, some of it was,
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BLM land, Bureau of Land Management, and that's where he had his contract with the feds, you know, to The grazing rights. Right? Yeah. They're trying to get rid of all of those people. Well, anyway, I, that's how I got in contact then with her son. Well, she was the gal. This gal I talked to was the gal who had driving the vehicle that flipped and, this gal's child was sitting in Helen Chenoweth Chenoweth's lap when the accident occurred that killed Helen. Oh. Long, hard story. Now there was accusations of, somebody having, fiddled with the brakes so that the thing would do that.
And I forget, like, the brakes oh, I looked into it after it happened, and I understood that brakes can be controlled. And and, you you if you go follow-up on it, who's got time to do all these things? But Right. Seemed to me like it was highly likely that somebody caused that accident. You know? And fortunately, the child was unhurt. The daughter-in-law, this gal I talked to was unhurt, but Helen died.
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Yes. She was killed.
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Yeah. And, makes you wonder. Of course, she married a fellow that was against the government, trying to put him out of the cattle business, and Helen was sympathetic to that. And that's how I suppose they met. Of course, in politics, you meet a lot of that's what politics is about, to say something positive about it. It's about people getting together that have, like kindred spirits and talking about their problems and discovering that they have something in common, that somebody is abusing them both. And then the more of them kind of people, those kinds of people that get together, the more they can have political influence. Hello?
That's important. Yeah. And, but it's dangerous, friends. I'm telling you. It's dangerous. All of it. I we had a lawyer. He was the only lawyer in in town. Matter of fact, Towne Morrowind High School. His name was, Urbogast. So he was everybody's lawyer in one of those kind of deals. You know? And and, he did everything. There wasn't nothing he couldn't do. Then he he was a judge a couple of times, but he had a thing on his walls. It was a quote about the legislature, I believe, of New York or Pennsylvania, somebody said that no man's life, liberty, or property is safe as long as the state legislature is in session.
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Sounds like Will Rogers.
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Well, it wasn't him. People you say he said that, but it was some state legislator that said that. Yeah. Yeah. Rogers said things like that. He said put your hands on your wallet. The legislature's
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in session.
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Yeah. Well, that's what they do. There's only two reasons for a legislature and common law, but the legislatures, of course, have left that fundamental jurisdiction. But the two reason for a legislative branch of common law, number one, is to pass legislation, originate and pass legislation that can take your personal property from you by force or threat of force. That's called taxes. It's not a matter of contract, friends. Lawful taxes are a matter of legislation, not contract. Duty arises out of out of out of legislation law, and, debt arises out of contract. Keep those two separate.
Make that distinction between debt and duty. So the legislative branch fundamentally has the rightful authority to pass legislation for taxes. The second, the second duty of the legislature that is lawful, both of these are massive dangerous duties, but it's the second duty a legislature has is to put you in a pos put our country in a position or the state in a position where the government can take your sons from you. Notice I didn't say your daughters. Take your sons from you by force or threat of force and send them off to foreign wars. Those are the two fundamental duties of the legislature.
And we have a legislature because that is both of those are so ugly and so dangerous. Taking your property and your children, that's some power, friends. Yeah. Beyond that, at common law, they don't have any responsibilities or authority that I can think of much of anything. Maybe there are some exceptions if I go through it. But just remember, the Congress of the United States has the power to declare war, and that puts the government gives the government authority to take your sons from you by force, not your daughters. No. Thousand times no.
By force or threat of force and your private property taxes. Go ahead, Roger. Germany's,
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announced they're gonna start drafting draftable agent. They do include women. What did you think about the fiasco in New York City this week? Did you aware of that? No. What happened, Roger? Oh my god. You didn't hear about that? Uh-uh. They had a primary. They've got a general election for mayor in November, I guess. And this socialist Arab has come to the forefront. They skewed the voting over the way they did in Alaska. They call it some kind of representative voting or something. And so he even though with 9% of the vote, he was tallied as the winner in the primary, b Cuomo. And he's just an avowed socialist, man. He's gonna make all the schools free, all the supermarkets free, all this other stuff. And there's quite a, hubbub that he's gonna get elected in November.
So that was kinda interesting. He he appears well. He he his appearance stuff is you know, he does pretty good in his speaking and everything. His wife, doesn't wear a heebop or any of that kind of stuff. And, anyway, so that happened this week. You'll hear something about it, especially as we go forward because the Jewish community went nuts, obviously.
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So I wouldn't know I wouldn't know why their their Talmudic law is fundamentally the same as, Sharia law. Oh, yeah. But there's just this Probably, I don't know. But the thinking's the same as the law of the city. It's the canon civil laws of Rome. It's Shiite Islam. It's communism.
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All of those are fundamentally the same. Well, they don't care too much about that. What they care about is he's an Arab. Yeah. I could. Back to the ancient, back to the ancient battle we experienced. The week before. Yes. Larry, good morning again.
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Good morning. I have a question for Brent speaking of, Congress and and the, the laws that they that they, you know, put into action. There's some students that believe that the federal government is a private corporation, while other students like, there's two schools of thought on this. Actually, there's three. And, other students believe that it's public, like the federal government and the state governments are public in nature. And then there's a there's a other another school of thought on this that it's a mixture of both, and I've heard this definition.
They, they are executing private policy of the democracy for public purposes. So I was wondering, Brent, if, you can explain a little bit about if the if the state and federal governments are they private corporations, are they public corporations, or are they a mixture of both?
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Neither. Neither. The governments in America are are entities, in other words, corporate, in the sense that the courts recognize them, deal with them as corporations because that's the only way that you can ever drag a government into court. That's why our courts, for purposes of legislation, deal with them as corporate bodies. That doesn't mean they're shareholders. That doesn't mean that they're, a public or a private corp. It just means that the courts view them as a corporate body, as a wholeness. That's what that means. There's no other way to do it. It's always been that way in the history of our country. It didn't start at during the war between the northern and southern tiers of states or shortly thereafter. That's all patriot mythology.
All of it. Now if you wanna say, is it de facto there for for profit of private parties? Oh, yeah. Lot of private people, including the Federal Reserve bankers, who have a private corporation, by the way, called the Federal Reserve Bank. That's a chartered corporation, but it's unlawful. And I'll tell you why it's unlawful, because our constitution of The United States gives no hint of any authority to government to incorporate or give a charter to any banks. Period. Period. And that happened back during, as you know, well, it started in 1913. But then during the Roosevelt administration, he pushed through a whole lot of legislation that allowed the federal government to create creatures of the state called corporations.
Those are all unlawful. The TVA, the, the WBA we have at home, the Wabash Valley Authority, the Tennessee Valley Authority Yep. Columbia Valley Authority, interstate corporations. The state governments, the sovereigns, may have that power, and we see that they exercise it a lot. Chartering banks, chartering county state governments charter counties. Those are corporate corporate entities. They charter cities. They charter villages. They charter water districts. So that's what state governments as sovereign states, of sovereignties have the power to do. But our but our general government in Washington DC has only the powers that our constitution of The United States expressly and explicitly give. If it's not mentioned, they don't have it as a matter of law.
That's what I know about it for what it's worth.
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Waheed was
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Brent. Yeah. I wanted to say some people would argue, Brent, how are you gonna get electricity to rural areas? That's one of the arguments that they made if you didn't have that back in the nineteen thirties when we were more rural environment, how else would we get to that electricity
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to those rural areas? That's one argument I heard people make. Yeah. Where where you I'm sorry. Where are you, from? What state are you in? Oh, boy.
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I'm in California.
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Oh, and what's your first name or some name you go by when you're on the air?
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Wahid.
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Oh, Wahid. I'm sorry. I didn't somehow recognize your voice. Well, I speak from experience on this one. I grew up where there was no electricity. And the reason there was no electricity there, initially was because the electric coop that was formed under the Roosevelt administration back in the 1930s hadn't got to us yet. It's an electric coop. Mhmm. It hadn't got to us. So we were on the other side of what we call the creek, and it was flooding, and they didn't think it was profit the coop didn't think it was profitable enough to bring electricity to us. Because that was a federal corporation, that was against the law for them not to bring us electricity.
It was, it was a violation of the equal protection of the laws. But beyond that, it was a violation of our constitution of The United States that such an electric coop even existed. Well, how did we do it? I'll tell you how you can do it and how it happened. Let me give you, for example, and I remember this too. When I was growing up, the people in my community and our township owned the telephone company. The the farmers that live there put up the telephone wires, dug the holes, put sassafras poles in the holes that they cut, put insulators up on the ends of the poles, and ran wires from house to house all over that part of the country. And we had party lines, and then they went to town and said, do you can we hook in to your switch switching facility here in town? And they said, yeah, for a fee. And so the farmers owned their own telephone company all over the heartland of America like that, by the way. And they they charged.
They formed a telephone company. They charged for the use. And then eventually, men came along, and I remember this too, and they they called it the consolidated l telephone company of the state or whatever. And they started buying up these farmers' telephone companies. I knew one man who even had his own telephone company. He wanted to work, tell the story quick. This is how the world should work and does work if the government will let it and get the h e, double l, out of the way. So he wanted to work for the telephone or he wanna work for the electric company because they were running their wires out, you know, the coop. And he went and applied as a young man, and they told him, well, fill out this form. He did, but he didn't put a telephone number down.
They said, now wait a minute. You you don't have tell you didn't put your telephone number down. What if we have an emergency? And we need you to come out and work on the electric wires. And when there's a storm or something, we gotta have your telephone number. And he said, well, I I don't have a telephone. I live out in the country. Well, they said, well, we're sorry. You can't work for us. And he said, well, if I have a telephone, can I come back? And they said, sure. So he was a young man, and he went out and cut his own Sassafras poles.
And he ran, he dug holes, and he went town and asked the folk in town, the telephone company in town, say, can I hook into your switching facility? They said, sure. People do that all the time. He said, I'm gonna run a telephone. He's about two mile out of town. So he ran a telephone line all the way into town hooked in. And while he was digging the post holes to put the sassafras poles in so he could put the insulator on the pole and run the lineup, they said, what you doing? He said, I'm putting these in so I can have a telephone. They said, well, can we tie into your line and have a telephone too? And he said, why, sure. And then he's he got to thinking, well, I could charge them. So he'd charge them so much every month to tie in, and he had his own telephone company, and he got that up and running. So he was making money, and he had a telephone. And then eventually, the company in town said, well, we'd like to buy your telephone company. That's the way business works. See? So they bought his telephone company, and then they all had telephone. Then they when the consolidated company in town consolidated more and more of the farmers' telephone companies, then pretty soon they had enough money just to run wires out to everybody. And then they got bigger and bigger. Pretty soon they were trenching. I this happened back in the seventies, trenching the wires and put them all underground. They started taking down the wires. Well, it just got better and better. See? Well, the electric, companies could have done that too, but Roosevelt stepped in. You know, people think that everybody liked that electricity.
Well, they'd a lot of them didn't. Well, that was a the the what everybody wanted. No. It wasn't. And all they saw in it after they got it when I remember this too, people sit sit around at night, and they'd say people sit around at night and start getting dark, and and, the farmer would say to his wife, well, you reckon we ought to light the lamps or go to bed? They had kerosene lamps, and that's what they did. Well, it they ran electricity. They it made them mad. They tried it, and they found out they got a bill every month.
As far as they was concerned, they got excited at first, ran wires out to their barn so they'd have a a light out in the barn and all that. Well, pretty soon, they realized that was gonna cost cost them money more than they wanted to pay, and they didn't like it and wanted to get rid of it. Well, as long as they were tied into it, they're gonna get they had all the all the meters and everything put up. Oh, yeah. It it it cost more money to a lot of people, and it was worth. What do they need it for? They light the lamps, wouldn't cost as much, and electricity was only good to light the house until they discovered there were other possibilities.
But then, of course, in time, people get addicted to that kind of thing. And that's what essentially happened, and then the government has more control. They have control of the electric company. By the way, these electric co ops, when I was in politics, I went to all the meetings. Of course, they were around there. They're a sham. That that people that are in the coop think they have something to say about it. And it got it I they're not it's ugly. The people that run it are often sexually compromised. I've I saw all this in politics. All of these arms out here, these organizations, the devil himself doesn't start organizations.
He doesn't start churches. He doesn't start schools. He doesn't start missionary boards or or, rescue missions downtown to feed people. No. No. He steals them all. Yeah. He doesn't know how to start anything. He doesn't have the ambition, and his useful idiots don't either, by the way. Yep. Yep. And soldiers stole they stole that. Now they control it. They the government makes a lot of money. They got perverts running it. That's the way it works. But if you have, that happening in the private sector, the service is better, and you don't have the government in your business and in your life. Why is it? Let's give it just one example. Why is it you drive up down the road in rural America and the Midwest and places like that, and you might every once in a while, you'll see a house that's painted a bit, pretty big house painted all white, well manicured.
There are fences around the fields and there are no electric lines running to the house when you drive by. Why is that? Because they're Amish. That's why. They're Amish. And you get to know these Amish men and they'll tell you. They say, well, why don't you lose electricity? Why don't you drive a car? Why don't you this? Why and they'll tell you the real reason. The real reason is not because they are stuck in the past. That isn't it. Matter of fact, they got more money than all the people that live around them, and they're more innovative generally and know how to make money because they're more innovative. They do start things. They start businesses, organizations, but why don't they tie in? I'll tell you why they don't tie in because they've told me.
Because they see that if they tie into the air quotes quote end quote, the system, the government will control them. Yep. That's what they don't want. They don't want the evil empire telling them what to do. Let me give you Bless those folks. This is a true story. This really happened. You can go read about it. When the Confederate forces invaded the northern state of Pennsylvania, of course, that ticked people off a lot, but they were making that invasion. They were looking for shoes, by the way. That's right. There was a warehouse up there full of shoes. Their boys were barefoot. But when they invaded, the people that live in Pennsylvania were Dutch and Germanic. A lot of them. A lot of them. Especially out in the country. They like to milk cows, farmland. That's what they like to build barns. That's what they like to do.
And they don't wanna be bothered by the government. That's that they have that attitude just like the Scotch Irish. They don't wanna be bothered either. Well, neither did those Germanic people, that in Pennsylvania. And the Confederates that wrote home to their parents, they were there, of course, trying to take their butter and their horses and their meat and and all that kind of stuff because they were confiscating it. And they discovered that those people that live there didn't care two hoots and a holler who won the war. They didn't care. They just wanna be left alone, and it ticked them off that the Confederates were up there confiscating their property. The one, account I read not too long ago about that, that thing will put rain in. I'm too tired to go get up and take a hamburger. I thought we were at this I thought we're at the Cook County Fair.
Yeah. See, that's the attitude these people had against the electric bill coming to their house. It just irritated them just like I'm irritated by the intrusion into my life of that that device over there. It's the same thing. Well, getting getting back to it, these people live in Pennsylvania. The farmers, the there was a who oh, I knew who it was. It was the man in charge of confiscating property for the Confederate army. He was a Jewish fella, an officer.
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Imagine that.
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I wish I could remember his name. The all the officer officer corps kinda made fun of him. No. I was reading oh, no. Let me come back. I was reading the account of the British officer that was had was sent here to be with the Confederates. They were trying to decide whether to help him. See? He's the one that made this observation and he tinted. He was messmates, so to speak, with this Jewish fella who was the the officer in charge of confiscating property. And he said, when this fella came back, he didn't have much luck with these Dutch Dutch settlers.
When he came back, he was he said he noticed he was downfalling because he couldn't find, they would say, well, we don't have anything. He knew they were wealthy, but they had it hidden and he couldn't find it. And he was getting a cut of everything he confiscated. You see, that's the way that works. That's why they call him the commissioner. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was talking about how he got along with him. He's pretty nice guy and all, but he was there to to get rich off other people's hardship. And, but he just noticed that the people didn't care one way or another who won the war. They didn't wanna help anybody. They wanted out of it. They don't they didn't didn't well, they were just fed up with the government is what I'm trying to say. You know, we tend to think that people are all fired up on one side or the other and many were.
But understand there are a lot of people I for example, read Gone with the Wind. Gone with the Wind. They made a movie out of it. You ought to go read the book. It was well written. But there's a character in there that wasn't in the movie named Archie. Archie was from the mountains, from Appalachia. Archie always carried a big toad sticker of a knife that he would use on anybody who trampled on his opinions. And there's only one thing he hated worse than the Yankees, and that was the Negro slave. And he didn't wanna be bothered by either side. Like all people, though, in East Tennessee at that time, they were pro union. They weren't pro they they they were, they supported the union cause entirely because they they knew the Confederates. They well, they knew in their minds the Confederates were wrong, and they were had been hijacked.
Oh. So our Eastern Eastern Tennessee, Knoxville, Chattanooga? Tennessee. East Tennessee was always Republican, and it was always has always been against the Confederacy. I was down in a lot there were a lot of places in the South like that, Roger. As a matter of fact, from the Deep South, North, in other words, Northern Alabama, Northern Georgia, that's in the mountains, of course. Yes. It is. And on north, they were all pro the pro union forces were as strong as the pro confederate forces. That's why well, there were 20,000 at any given time during the war. There were about 20,000 Kentuckians in the Union Army.
Not to mention that, not quite that many from Texas and Tennessee. But more battles occur they were union. Their union sympathies were strong. There were more there were more, battles in Tennessee than any state during that war because they were split there like they were in Missouri, like they were in Southern Illinois. And all through that area, they were split, Illinois, Indiana. But at the same time, the union prevailed. Well, in East Tennessee, I was down there three and a half three years ago, almost yeah. Three years ago for a reunion.
And, we stayed at Pigeon Forge. And Pigeon Forge of course, there's a big mill there. It's called there was a mill house there. That mill house was huge. It's on Pigeon Creek. Well, in that mill house, all during the war, a massive amount of the manufacturing for the union forces went on, and it was all done in secret. They had it on the side. What's that? You're telling me stuff I've never heard before. Go on, bro. Yeah. They had it on the outside, looking like it was, just a mill. But on the inside, they were making uniforms and gloves and socks and, other hard equipment as they could for the Union Army.
And, of course, I like to tell the story that this it was all over it was county by county in those days. That's why, much a large chunk of Virginia became West Virginia, you see, during that time. Though, again, mountaineers, they didn't care about what the South see, the deep the Deep South really did care about slavery. They were fighting so they could keep their slaves in the Deep South. I'm talking down in the swamps and down in that lower area. But in the other parts of the North, such as in Mississippi, the county where Jefferson Davis resided, the president of Confederacy, it voted to not leave the union.
And, of course, senator Houston from he was from Tennessee. He was senator from Texas at that time. He was from East Tennessee. He voted to not leave the or, yeah, he voted to not leave the union, tried to talk Texas and to stay and said you're committing suicide, which they did. Senator Thomas Hart Benton from Missouri, he both of those men, were destroyed because they didn't support the Confederacy and those in the legislature, hotheads, ruined both of their careers. Sam Houston went out in disgrace at the end of his life, and so did Thomas Hart Benton. A couple of couple of tough men, by the way. You know, Thomas Hart Benton, he'd get in an argument with somebody, and he did in the senate during that time, and he'd say to him, look. I don't think you understand.
If you wanna argue with me and it heats up enough, it one of us or yep. Generally, one one of us is gonna go home in a coffin. And in most cases, most cases of my fights, it's never me. That was Thomas Hart Benton. Wow. But these men were they were tough men that lived hard lives. Same thing with, Sam Houston. No no stranger to physical confrontation. Barely won. He worked for Andy Jackson, who was no stranger to physical confrontation. They said he had so many, musket balls in his body that he rattled like a bag of marbles. I'm talking about he was in so many doodles, you know? Yeah. And he finally got in one that ruined his life forever and made him a miserable, miserable man. A ball lodged right next to his heart.
And it had an abscess that collected around his lung. That was when he was in his early forties. He killed the other fella. The other fella shot him. You know, he got in duel with a fella named, oh, Dickinson. Young man, comparatively, insulted him. He asked him to make it right. He wouldn't. And Dickinson was a crack shot, and everybody told Andy Jackson, you know, you may know how to shoot, but this guy is he did miss. And he said, I don't care. I gotta do something. So they met for the duel, and Jackson was, of course, people said he had to stand up twice just to make a shadow. He was skinny as a rail.
And he decided what he would do. He would turn sideways, give him a smaller carcass, and it would wouldn't get his get to his heart disease, you see. His arm would be in the way, and then he would wear a heavy coat. Only it was a hot summer day. He wore a heavy coat. So he turned sideways, and his his strategy was he'd let Dickinson shoot first knowing that Dickinson would hit him. And then he would he would if he could get up or maybe shoot from a certain position if he couldn't stand up after Dickenson hit him, if he had any life left in him in him at all, he would take slow steady aim and drill him. And that's exactly what happened. Dickinson fired first. He let him fire first, hit Jackson from the side, but the darn ball went into his chest, and his arm flew up in the air, and people said he's done, you know, but he didn't fall down. He stood standing.
And Dickinson was so surprised, he he knew he was in danger, he gasped and he he stepped forward from his mark and the seconds grabbed him and said, to your mark, sir, to your mark. And he stood back up to his mark, crossed his hands over his heart hoping that would help deflect the bullet if it hit him in the arm, and stood still while Jackson took his sweet time, grit in his teeth. He was in pain, and it was all he could do to stand up. And he pulled the trigger trigger, hit him, and then, fell down and ordered his second to take Dickinson a glass of wine and, and ordered they each had their surgeons standing standing by, ordered his surgeon to go, tend to Dickinson.
But Dickinson died. Well, Andy Jackson lived a lot of his life like that, but that last one, he didn't have the what it took any more to that's what Doolin will do. Bad habit. A lot of chivalry going on right there. Yeah. It that yeah. It is. Most states by that time had outlawed it. It's a bad habit because what men would end up doing in many case is if they killed the other fella, they'd spent the rest of their life and mourning and guilt over his widow and children and then ended up, if they were honorable men, had anything left in them supporting the wife and children for the rest of of their lives and feeling guilty.
But if you if you're in an environment like that, it's just the norm. And, don't criticize those. This is what justice justice Stevens of the US Supreme Court, he was in that environment in California. And he said, for those of you that have never been in that world where dueling was the way men settled their differences because we didn't have courts, don't criticize them. I was there. I'm a man he said, I'm a man all for lawful order law and order, and the law should prevail. But I was in that environment, and, he said, I'm testifying to you that it becomes the only way men can settle their differences. And if you can't settle your differences in some some organized orderly way, then it becomes mayhem.
And dueling did have an order to it. And as a matter of fact, our common law trials, our battle or trial by or a battle by trial. Dueling is trial by battle. It's part of our common law condition. But our trials are, battled by trial, and all the rules in our common law courts are fundamentally the same. All of them. My son wanted me to watch El Cid recently. You remember El Cid, don't you, Roger? Yes. I do. Yeah. It's about Spain. El Cid El Cid is about chivalry. It was, Charlton Heston. But what people I love it, folks, is you don't follow-up on it. You see, the reason they were doing that was in Spain, and they were fighting the Islamic invaders at that time. But the reason it's about chivalry is because, chivalry is part of our common law tradition. It was part of the tribes of Northern Europe and the Goths, G O T H S, had taken over Spain.
The Goths are Anglo Saxons. Yep. From and they're the ones that, colonized and settled what we today call Sweden. The Anglo Saxons settled Sweden under a man named Gittin and they also settled England. But the Anglo Saxons settled Gieting, their law and government is they didn't call it the common law tradition at that time. They call it the bullpike. But there are this, 250,000 of them, men, women, and children got up, when they were called Goths, later when they left. And they they started migrating south. They whooped the Roman legions. Yep. And then sacked Rome. Yep. Ate everything that wasn't nailed down, got bored and left and went to Spain.
And when they went to Spain, you know, about May, they took their common law tradition with them. And that's what L. C. D. Is all about. Movie, it very well, 1961, but it's all about chivalry. That's right. And and it's about battle or trial by battle. And in that movie, when one, nobleman challenged another, He one of them slapped the other in the or threw down no. It didn't slap him. He took off his armored glove, his, armored glove, the kind of glove a knight would wear, and threw it down in front of him. And if the other man would pick it up, that's service of process. Service of process, just like we do when you sue somebody in our common law tradition.
All the rules are the same. It's all I'm saying. Well, we got off and we went past the top of the hour and we'd I didn't identify myself, Roger. Should I do that? Well, you can if and then certainly, we'd welcome you too, but the reason is we didn't have those folks with us today where we needed to do that. So Oh, for those of you that are listening, this is Roger Sales, and this is traditionally called Roger Sales and the Radio Ranch. And this is Brent. That's Roger. Just talked to me there. This is Brent, Brent Allen Winters, commonlawyer.com. Www.commonlawyer.com.
If you go to the website, you can join us for our upcoming upcoming law class called comparative law, comparing and contrasting our law of the land with the law of the city, our common law tradition with the canon civil laws that govern all of the world by the code of Justinian and the two two major branches of, what we call Christianity. The canon civil laws govern the Eastern church, called the Orthodox church, and the Western church called the called the Roman church, the Church of Rome. You know, some have asked me, well, what's the difference then? Well, in the Eastern Church, the language they use, when they use the code of Justinian, Justinian, emperor of the Roman Empire, they use it in its original form of Greek.
The Greek, original tongue of the code of Justinian, and the Western churches use Latin. That's the one of the grand differences. There are others too, many others, and doctrinal differences, but they're the same church, always have been. They'll tell you they're different, but the the, Western church, of course, moved its headquarters to Constantinople. Still same church, you see, only moved to the West. And then they begin to diverge because they got to fighting over who was pope and Rome wanted to recapture the thing and bunch of hogwash. It's all fundamentally the same. All of them. They're under the civil canon laws. They call them the canon laws. That's the code of Justinian of the Roman Empire. Well, we're gonna we're doing a law course. Can I can I stop right there and just answer something? And then they took when the Muslims came and defeated Constantinople, the walls couldn't be toppled.
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It was an American guy that helped them build a cannon to do it, and they got the the jewels and a lot of the paperwork and whatever else is really important there in artifacts of that Eastern church in Constantinople, and they went north, and that's the Russian Orthodox Church today. That no. That's right. And,
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that was in 1453, AD, when constant Constantinople was conquered by a 180,000, Islamic church. Well, anyway yeah. And by the way, Roger, when that happened, the the, manuscripts of the New Testament and the Old Testament in the original tongues, went with the people that escaped before that before the Turks before the Turks, conquered the city. And that is what revitalized in the West. Within two years after that, the Greek New Testament was being taught, and Greek was being taught in Paris at the University of Edinburgh. And that, Roger, that single contrary of Constantinople is what sparked the reformation of Christianity.
And the whole reformation, the Protestant church, we know it today, the primacy of the Bible over the Pope of Rome, that's how that happened. It was because of the Turks. God, uses the useful idiots of the evil empire to accomplish his his purposes and in strange ways. Yes. What you were gonna launch into about your course, I interrupted you so to speak to. Yeah. So we're teaching a course on comparative law and using the comparative law text, excellence of the common law. You can go to the website, sign up for that course. You can also get, the winterized translation of the Bible.
A common lawyer translates the Bible from the original tongues talking about a raw translation, quarter raw translation, don't wanna cook the book, want to deliver it up from the original tongue. See, I have to thank I have to thank those Islamic Turks from forcing that to happen. And the and, those manuscripts, now we have them in the West. We have them in spades more than any other ancient writing. We have them, plus, also the Old Testament manuscripts more have come to light through other accidents of history, and they're reliable as a matter of evidence, and we translate the Bible into our own tongues using them. You can get a copy of that translation of the Bible, forty years of work, still going at it, but the 35,000 footnotes explaining why we translate the way we do, and the 100 and over 200 appendices tracing major themes through the warp of the wolf of the text and the context of the Bible.
You can get all that at commonlawyer.com. You can get it in digital form. You can get it in hard copy form plus other books by your true yours truly pertaining to our common law tradition. You can also take other courses. The most popular course we taught, it's all in the can, audio and visual is, the formal issue clauses of our constitution of The United States. And by the way, sheriff Darley of Barry County, Michigan is co presenter with me on those these law courses. Been sheriff up there for over twenty years. I'm just tickled to death to have him, of course. He brings some practical a lot of practical observations to what we're doing, and he's interested, has always been interested in our common law tradition and the student of it as, of course, I am as well.
So go to commonlawyer.com. And Roger, again, I like to mention when I think of it, give your website. Roger has a book he's written, and he has a website, devoted to that book.
[01:17:41] Unknown:
Yes. The matrix docs, it's all this combined information. Thanks to Paul putting it all together up there, and I'm pretty sure everybody in the audience knows about that. Thematrixdocs.com. Brent, we've finished that. I would like to see if there's anybody in the audience that might have some questions or queries for either you or myself. So if there's anybody you got a question for Brent or me, please, star sixes, and, we got a little bit of the advantage of time. This is Larry. Well, I should have known who'd be first at the bar. Hey, Larry. What do you got for Brent today?
[01:18:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to circle back around, to my question I asked Brent. So, Brent, when I asked you, if the, state and federal governments were private, public, or a mixture of both, I believe you said neither. And then you then you made a statement that they have to be considered corporations if someone was going to bring a lawsuit against them. Is that correct?
[01:18:43] Unknown:
No. They have to be considered corporate entities, not corporations. And I do draw a bit of a distinct distinction there. That that that this is for example, the government the general government in Washington, DC, DC is not a corporation for a couple of reasons. Number one, nothing can corporate itself. Nothing. And no no no legislation of the federal government can corporate itself. Corporations are creatures from a more from a sovereignty from a sovereignty, and there's nothing in our constitution of The United States that gives, the general government in Washington DC authority to incorporate anything much less itself, which is a legal impossibility.
Now state governments, they didn't incorporate themselves either. See? The general government is the, product of the states, but it's not a they didn't incorporate. They didn't do that. And the sovereign government of your state is not a corporation either. But that sovereign government has power to create corporations, like county governments or corporations all over The United States, city governments, villages, water districts. Those are creatures of state government. They also incorporate, of course, when they do that, sometimes banks are under charters. The government of the United States by the legislation of 1913 had no authority to incorporate any bank, but they said they did it, but they didn't. That's a lie.
But for purposes of suing let me give you another example of maybe for purposes of legislation. Another example would be, trust, a common law trust. A common law trust is not a creature of state government. It is not a creature of state government. It's something that a private party settles. It's not a corporation. It's not a corporate entity. But for purposes of tax law, the general government in Washington DC says for purposes of that, it's a corporate entity. Now I don't believe that's true. I believe that, legislation, that the taxing of taxing powers must treat state law as state law. As a matter of fact, so much so that that they're not allowed to lien property in your state without permission from the and guidance from the state government there, and all the states have done that with certain legislation.
But that's just an example. But I'm not saying that's lawful, but for purposes of legis of of of suing the government or the government suing somebody, our courts view them as an entity. That's, there's no other way the courts have said for centuries this is nothing new. How can you sue a government if you don't look at it as an entity? Well, you can sue somebody in the government. That happens too. Don't get me wrong. That happens. If somebody steps outside the scope of their authority and does something that is an ultra vires, as they say, then you can sue them in their personal capacity like a president, a governor, a police officer, even a judge. That's hard to do. Yep. It's hard to prove that they're outside the scope of their authority, but it has happened. There are some things they could do that are not within their role as a judge or within their role as president. And that's what they tried to do to Trump. They tried to catch him outside his role doing something. Yes. That's almost impossible.
[01:22:39] Unknown:
That's what we call sovereign immunity. Roger, did you wanna make I did. I did. This is another one of those words that we use that is a big general the government. The big blob. Yeah. Remember the the Steve McQueen? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, it's a big blob. See? Oh, yeah. And and as John used to say, we're the government. We have a contract. We elect representatives to represent us up there. They hire people to enforce the laws they pass, and these are the people we have a problem with are the are the agents of government. So now, just like Brent said, now you got a target.
Okay? Because if they don't deal within their, the required parameters, they get individually sued, and they lose that cloak of ammunability. And so isn't it much more accurate if we were to use the word the agents of government? It's highly specific, and it connotates a a targetable remedy.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That's true. That's true, and and then you can get at them that way. If you're going after to the government, you probably are gonna lose. I give you predictions of probability. And not only that, not only that, they don't care that much if it's just this unfaceless this faceless thing called the government, they have your money to to give you your money to give you, if you get a judgment against them. But you go after somebody individually, if you catch them outside their role, a police officer beating up a a little old lady in a wheelchair, and that kind of that kind of thing does happen. Well, you can go after them. I've I've tried it both ways, by the way, Going after governments and going after those that work for government. Right. It's difficult. They never pay.
[01:24:35] Unknown:
What's that? Right. They use taxpayer money to pay off these lawsuits. They use taxpayer payer money, not That's what he said. That's what he said. They're gonna pay you off with Waheed, that's what he said. He's gonna pay you off with your own money.
[01:24:48] Unknown:
Yeah. So they don't care. That when you go after Roger?
[01:24:52] Unknown:
Yep. Okay. Here's Larry. Yes, sir.
[01:24:56] Unknown:
Yeah. So Brent, I wrote this statement down and you tell me if you agree with it. For purposes of litigation, both the federal and state governments are considered corporate entities. Other than that, they are deemed sovereign entities according to their respective constitutions.
[01:25:16] Unknown:
No. Not other than that. They're not entities other than that. Not not no. Just for purposes of litigation. I think that's the best way to to see it. Yeah. Because, again, let's go over it here maybe twice. I I have to hear things more than once to get it. I hope you're better than that. But as the Bible says, Isaiah says line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little. That's the way we God has made us and we learn that way. Let me repeat it again. No government has the power to incorporate itself. As a matter of law, they don't have the authority to do that.
I don't have the power to make me a person, to embody myself. God embodied me. That's what corpus means. Corpus in English means embodiment. It means, to create a body. God did that for me. I can't do that for myself. No government can do it for itself. That's not possible. That's why when the people of your sovereign state got together, they, said we'd like to form a state, but they didn't incorporate it. They just formed a state government. That's what they did. They asked it's an arrangement. Now listen. I have a friend that tells me, and I tend to want to go that way. I'll tell you the way I tend to want to go from my what I know about the law. When you settle a trust, the common law trust, and that's the only kind there is, are the trust does not exist in non common law countries. That means it doesn't exist any place in the world except English speaking countries.
In other words, England and her colonies and former colonies. That's our common law world. Very, very few places. But when you settle a trust, it's not an entity. It's an arrangement for persons of property. An arrangement for persons of property is not an entity. Well, that's what the people in here is the men, the militiamen and the people, that's the militiamen, and your sovereign state did when they formed the state government. They arranged persons and property. That is an entrustment. That's not a corporate entity. You see, there were no corporate entities in our common law tradition.
They were and then when they got here, they were very unpopular. The corporate entities are a product of the Roman civil law, the canon civil laws of Rome. They came into existence and popular in the West through the Roman Church. Then they infiltrated into our common law tradition very, very slowly, and people didn't know much about them or hardly ever used them on a popular level until my lifetime and until I was almost grown, did I really hear about people incorporating. They started incorporating their farms. And then the from Wyoming, we have the LLC, the LLP, all these, the c corp, the s corp came along.
That's all pretty right recent, but it all came from what Harold Barraman Harold Barraman was a professor of law at Emory University in Georgia. Yeah. He had formerly been professor at at, Harvard Law School, and he wrote the book. I advise people to read it. It's a book that is massive, and it's just all over the board because he compiled it his whole life. It didn't seem to me like it was organized that well, but I enjoyed reading it because once you're done with it, you go, oh, and you got your eyes eyes and your head pointed in a different direction. See? That's that's the beauty of that book. But, he makes the point that the revolution during the tenth and eleventh century century of the Roman church, that he calls it the papal revolution was the model for the French revolution, the Russian revolution, the communist revolution of China, the communist revolution of North Korea, the communist revolutions all over South And Central America.
He and he named his book Law and Revolution because it's all about the revolution that arose out of the the Roman system, the church system, which is the Roman Empire system, then more of the church system, and then corporations are an important part of that. Why? Because in the law of the city, in the evil empires of this world, they don't the the devil himself doesn't seek to control in, individuals, just lots of individuals. That's Christianity. Christianity is one at a time, and God himself invades and occupies your body.
The body he made, he He invades it and occupies it and saturates all your organs and everything inside of your skin. That's what the Bible says. Your brain, your heart, everything. Your nervous system, He's there. He does that one at a time by the new birth or the birth from above of the Spirit as Jesus Christ calls it when he's in, chapter three of the gospel of John. That's what that's how God controls men. How does the devil control men? Well, what he he he can't do that. So what he does is he tries to control as many men as he can by controlling one person. The more he can control organizations, the more men he can control.
But it's not, of course, as effective as God's control. But he can control a lot of people through world leaders, bank boards, stealing. As I said, he only steals organizations. He steals government control of governments, and he steals control of universities. He steals control of what's were Christian organizations
[01:31:20] Unknown:
maybe. Like Rome, maybe was at one time. Not now. He steals it. He occupies offices with his usual idiots. Roger, go ahead. I was gonna say Al Adask when I was doing shows with him one time. He made this statement. I've I think we've used it before. Even the devil makes you volunteer. Yeah. He but he yeah. He drives you. You said he's a distributor of wealth. Yeah. That's the definition.
[01:31:46] Unknown:
And he greases those skids of this debt monetary system, and you just can't get enough of it. Well, some people And all I get that's right. I agree. And he but my I'm trying to drive home the point, Roger, not to take away from your point at all. But I tried it from I'm trying myself to focus on one thing, so I don't get I go on rabbit trails easy. If you get me on one, I'll be gone.
[01:32:11] Unknown:
As as I as I learned long ago. Go ahead. He uses it use uses individuals,
[01:32:18] Unknown:
and those individuals he uses, you see this in Isaiah the prophet and Ezekiel. Both of them start talking about the Emperor of Babylon and that morphs into Satan himself in his description. Back and forth, he's talking about one one, he's talking about others. There are those few people who sell themselves to the devil and once they do, the devil uses that person that's called possession, Demon possession. Faust. They they all that say that again. Faust. Faust.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
Talk about that. You know you know about that? Yeah. I I want you to talk about it. I've heard of it. It's an opera. It was written by one of those German philosophers. Oh, yeah. You've mentioned that. And he about a a kid who makes a deal with the devil.
[01:33:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, Faust. Yeah. I get your point. And and it was it was written by Hegel. That's who wrote it. Yeah. And there are those peep thank you, Roger. And there's those people Goethe. Excuse me. Goethe. Go ahead. You had talked about him a week or two ago. But there are those people that the devil uses to take control of organizations. They are truly bad to the bone. Yes. Remember the movie. Illustrations are beautiful. I can find a view of the good, the bad, and the ugly. The good, the bad, and the ugly. That was a Christian motif story. Remember the movie was 1967.
It was Clint Eastwood. Yes. The good is the good angel. And in the story, he's called the angel. The bad is the desperado who doesn't know how he doesn't know what to do. He's scared to death. He's just trying to get by. That was, Cuco. That was the the Mexican man in the movie. And then there that's no. That's the ugly. I'm sorry. That's the ugly. The good, the bad, and the ugly. But then there's the bad man. And that was, Van, played by Lee Van Cleef? Yeah. Van Cleef. Van Van Cleef, isn't it Van Cleef? I guess. Dutch, not German. But he like, there's a difference. But he, he, he played the part of the man that was truly bad to the bone.
Stjuco was a nice guy, but he was desperate, so he did a lot of bad things. And the the guardian angel, the good man, played by Clint Eastwood, he was constantly pulling Tuco, the Desperado, out of the fire. That's the way life is down here on land. There are a lot of Desperados out there that are not bad to the bone, but they're controlled by organizations, by politically correct speech, by all that kind of stupidity. They just go along to get along. They're they're stupid. They're fickle. They're ignorant. They don't really want to hurt anybody, but they don't know what else to do. Most people are controlled through organizations and politics and governments and and prestige, the university, being a professor, all those kinds of things. And and then want to be accepted by the group like all the students at the university.
Most many of them want to be communist and all that kind of stuff. And you don't want to be thought to be a racist, so you marry a man that's black or of of color or you marry a woman that's black or of color because you're so bent on being accepted by the crowd you want to be accepted by. All those kinds of things. But there are those that are bad to the bone and the devil, that's called demon possession demon possession. It's not the norm. It does exist,
[01:35:59] Unknown:
and you can't always recognize it. There's a bunch of it out there they've woven into our society.
[01:36:06] Unknown:
But the yes. But they're very dangerous because they don't care. You see, those are apostates, my friend. The bible calls it apostates. They're the ones see, if you know that you don't get a second chance, you know you're doomed without without without any possibility of of appeal. You know you're going to hell like the devil himself does. He doesn't care what he does. He's not gonna change anything. Might as well have fun while he can. That's the mentality of the evil empire. Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die. Well, it's worse than that. Eat, drink, and be merry. Tomorrow, you go to hell forever. Suffer torment out in the presence of your maker.
Well, there are those kind of people and, of course, the Christian life is fraught with pitfalls and the Bible and our common law tradition are here, both from the same source, one written, the other written. But the written volume, the Bible, is the final court of last resort in cases of apparent incontinence between those two volumes. But in all cases, God gives us his reveals himself to us so that we will have the wherewithal as we get more and more far along down the road in the Christian life. We can discern those differences and avoid being destroyed.
And God says He will preserve us. He is the guardian angel to put it that way. He is Melchizedek. He is the angel of the Lord. He is Yahuwah. And you'll make mistakes, and you'll get wiser. He'll put you through the fire, my friend. He will put you through the fire. He'll bring you out the other side, not even smelling like smoke. Why? Because if you're born from above, you are his birthing. You he has sired you. You are, as my great grandma Douglas said, heirs of my body. That's what and that's what we are. This is We're his productions. He'll he'll he'll discipline us. He'll teach us.
But be be assured, he won't let you be destroyed because you belong to him. You're the apple of his eye, he he says. I disempowered my children because I love them. My parents applied the board of education to my seat of knowledge because they love me, and it was not pleasant. Whatever I got, of course, like all fathers, my father was not perfect, and so he made some mistakes. But can you imagine how much worse, if you don't like me now, how much worse it would have been if it hadn't been for my father and mother trying to beat me once in a while. Well, we love you here, Brent. So we appreciate your dad who's still alive at, what, 99 this year? He'll be 99 in a few days. Yeah. Oh, wow. We'll wish him a happy birthday and and all of our best wishes to make it over the Centurion Market. I will do that. Yep. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He'd like to hear that. Alright. Hold on, Wahib. What does
[01:39:16] Unknown:
your what does your father eat? Is he a vegetarian?
[01:39:21] Unknown:
No. No. No. He grew up eating pork. Wahib. I'm I'm from five generations of people who love to eat pigs. Oh, Brent. I'm not saying that lightly. What's that?
[01:39:34] Unknown:
Guess what the girls in Germany are doing when they get to get out of the house.
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Oh, I see.
[01:39:42] Unknown:
They're buying pigs. Yeah. They're taking pigs with them on a leash or little miniature ones, ones, and the Islam guys won't touch them. They run away.
[01:39:53] Unknown:
Yeah. The, in the Ohio Valley, I was talking about people in East Tennessee, and the Ohio Valley was populated from people that had come, you know, and then they come into the mountains and they find ways to get over, and then they migrate into Kentucky and and down the Ohio Valley. And all that area, I came to understand when I was growing up. Port is the mainstay, and that's going away now. But the culture was so strong for pork there that people believed my dad believed that you couldn't be healthy without eating it as often as possible. And it's one of those I'm not advocating eat eating the pork. I quit eating it. Well, the Bible says don't eat it, so I don't eat it. But I grew up eating it not twice a day, but three times a day, and we butchered ourselves and kept our pork out in the shed and smoked or in the smokehouse or in the what we call the in the wintertime, we just put it out in the milk house because it stayed frozen, wrap it in feed bags.
But it was it was a cultural thing that developed, and I don't know how it developed in America that you you won't be healthy without pork so that we did eat it that often. Now dad tells me and we did then. Dad now, he doesn't eat that much meat because he doesn't have enough to fight for it, but he tries to get plenty of plenty of protein in his system. But I'll just tell you bottom line, friends, what's important for health that I learned from him and his mother, by the way. I when people live a long time like Wahib, I ask the same question. Now let's examine them a little bit here. I bought my father and my mother who's outlived all her grandmothers now.
I asked them what the most what they wanted to pass along their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. I've got this down in writing, and I want I told them I was gonna hand it out at their funerals, everything they believe. And I got them to sign it, it's notarized. But I, then I said, what do you wanna pass along, your children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren? What's the most important thing? And I asked mom first so she wouldn't be influenced by dad's answer. And she said, well, the Bible. I said, the Bible? You got this farmland?
You want to pass that along? Is that as important? No. The Bible is important. I said, dad, do you agree? Yeah. I agree. The Bible. I said, what about the farmland? No. The Bible. Because if you got the farmland and you don't got the Bible, you're gonna lose it anyway. You gotta have the Bible because that's the the Bible is the the trust indenture documents that define God's relationship with his people. And if you don't have that, you don't understand what your relationship entrusted property is. How you gonna take care of it if you haven't identified it? God help us. Why is it why is it that we're losing where our country looks like we're losing it because we're defiling the entrusted prophets of the land.
The Bible says, you do the things we're doing, you defile the land, and the land by analogy will puke you out. God's land will puke you out. It will throw you out. It will oust you. That's an analogy. But God's saying, I'm gonna get rid of you. You're not gonna be in charge anymore. And I'll use your and you go to the Bible and you go to history and you see that God uses enemies, the enemies of God to do His bidding. Those who hate Him to to to oust those to whom He has given His land and trust. Terrible thing, but that's what happens.
That doesn't have to happen if the minority, the remnant, the leftovers, God's people, will start paying attention a little bit, a little bit, a critical mass to God's trust indenture. We call it the Bible and there's never been a people on the face of the planet that has been more attached to the Bible than the country called America. Never has been. Ever. Ancient Israel of old was not the record they they they gave, that was passed along to us, the Old Testament, Testament, is a record of their disloyalty to God and disloyalty to the elodial landlord, God himself.
Biblical than America. Never been a nation, most important, England was very biblical also at one time. Never been nations more fixated on translating the Bible into English. Never. We're the ones that have not we, not me, but the English speaking world is the one that spearheaded the translation of the Bible into native tongues and still doing it. And we have the Bible here. We still many of us believe it to be foundational to our culture. We know it is. Without it, we wouldn't have we wouldn't have this engine of wealth and prosperity if we had come here as Moors, Islamists, or just Jews.
Who's that Jewish fellow? Very popular. Prager. Prager. Prager University he's got. And he says the reason America is so prosperous as a hardcore Jew now. The reason America is so prosperous because the Puritans that established the norm and put us on a trajectory of the Bible. That's what he said. And then he turns around and talks about how wonderful the Talmud is. Well, the Talmud is contrary
[01:45:59] Unknown:
acknowledge. Of course, the Talmud is the tradition of the elders. Do you know who he just hired? He's a big I don't know if she's over communications or something, but it was this Israeli female. I'm not sure what her rank was, officer rank, that oversaw a unit of theirs called eighty two hundred. You have you ever heard of that before, Brent? Eighty two hundred?
[01:46:21] Unknown:
I know.
[01:46:22] Unknown:
It's their cyber, their cyber unit. Oh. And I saw a vic a a video for addressing, part of the unit one day, and she's going, we have to be tricky. We have to be deceitful. All the typical Tom Yiddish crap. Prager has hired her in a real key position, which I well, I just lost a lot. I I don't pay much attention to Prager anymore. Go ahead. He gives lip service to the Puritans.
[01:46:48] Unknown:
I'm I'm glad he does. Maybe somebody get interested, but he he destroys his own position by his doctrines. But understand, folks, we're not like other people. By the providence of God, not because we're smarter. By the providence of God, he is the provider. Christianity is not fundamentally a moral based on morality. It is not a moral tradition. No. No. No. No. It is a a providential tradition where God provides everything, including the proper law and government and the proper first principles of it. We're teaching now through the book of Exodus. We got past the 10 commandments, Exodus 20. We're moving clause by clause. And the more I teach the Old Testament, the more I am convicted that the best way to approach the statutes, commandments, and judgments of God is paragraph by paragraph.
Stephen Langton, the chief drafter Magna Carta, is the one that gave us our paragraph or our chapter divisions, rather, our chapter divisions to the Bible and we still use them. He was a biblicist to the nth degree. Magna Carta is a very biblical document, very biblical. By the way, we have a course in the can on Magna Carta almost about forty five weeks long. It's all in the can, audio and visual, going through it clause by clause and blow by blow. Good. But you won't find that anywhere, my friend. Please. Take advantage of that. And by the way what's that? Eight hundred and tenth anniversary is just a week or so ago. Fifteenth, I think. And we taught we taught that course, Roger. We began it. I believe the first session was on the eight hundredth anniversary
[01:48:35] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Of the ceiling.
[01:48:37] Unknown:
People say the signing of Magna Carta Magna Carta was never signed. It was sealed. Uh-huh. In other words, the king put his seal on it, which is like a signature, but probably, we don't know. But a lot of those kings and noblemen didn't know how to read and write back then. That's why they used seals so on. Mhmm. Because the and he's he did seal it, and that was on the June 15 in the year 12/15. And we began that course. I had a friend email me and said, Brent, Brent, it's important that you teach a course on Magna Carta and start next whatever day it was, and I did. So I put it all in the can. That was the first time I went through it. I've got two courses on Magna Carta.
One is audio, purely audio. The other one's audio visual. I need to find that other one and put it make it available also for a lesser price or something, I guess, or lesser donation as we say. But, I should sell it with books because I yeah. That's the way I could do that. I'll figure it out. But we can I've got a lot on Magna Carta, and I like to always go through documents in the order they're written. Why wouldn't I? If I can't get the flow of the text and the way the author wanted it, I'm gonna miss something, the Bible included. And if you're not going to church where they teach through the Bible in the order of the text that God himself established, you're missing a lot. And I invite you to do that on Saturdays and Sundays with us. Go to commonlawyer.com.
We're going through the book of second Peter on Sunday and the book of Exodus on Saturday, clause by clause and blow by blow. And the the Old Testament statutes, commandments, and judgments, we pay attention to the details of of the Hebrew text, of course, but I like to present them as paragraphs and to distill from the paragraph the first principle of law that comes out of that paragraph. We just got through with the paragraph that deals with a man who authorizes his daughter to be employed by another man. There are a lot of rules there. That other man is not allowed to sell our services to anybody else.
He's not allowed to have a daughter or his son marry her or try to get his son to marry her unless unless hang on just a minute. Thank you, Roger. I had to these darn telephones. But, anyway, we drew drew first principles out of that that are applicable right here, right now. God gave them to us. You see the first principles of all anywhere in the Bible, the first principles never change. The Bible never changes. The first principles of law never change. The weightier matters, as Jesus Christ said of the laws. The matters that govern all of the other parts of the laws of God never change. But the application of those laws is as different age to age and among different groups and different people that have different technologies as there are needs of man and that's what God's law is good for.
Thou shalt not steal is a first principle. Thou shalt not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. Those are first principles. They're applicable across the board, but the Bible then with the statutes and the commandments applies those MD. Agrarian society and economy of ancient Israel but when it does that you could see more of what the law the law of first principles mean and be able to apply it to your own life. That's our job is to see how those first principles apply right here, right now to my life, to your life. I tell people, I want to keep some time. Well, it's not my job to tell you what to do. It's my job to present what God said, and then give you examples of how you can apply it to your own life. I don't know your life. I don't know your circumstances.
There's no way I could know. I mean, I'm me, I'm an embodiment of God that's different than you. And my life and circumstances have been different. But I know this, stealing's against the law. I found out I can apply that to a lot of things. I have stolen, Roger, in my life. I have stolen other people's time unnecessarily.
[01:53:10] Unknown:
The only thing they can't replace.
[01:53:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I've done that. I've had people do it to me. I confess it to God and say, I don't wanna do that to other people. As I got older, I began to understand. A lot of it most of it, I didn't do it in we break God's law inadvertently, mistakenly, but it's still breaking to God's law, and we don't wanna do that. As Christian men and women, we got a new heart and a new mind that wants to do what he wants us to do. So we learn little things like that, coveting, stealing. It can be applied in many ways. Stealing can be done in ways that look legal. You can even make it legal on paper according to the courts. That doesn't mean it's not stealing. To recognize and know that is the application a personal matter. Well, back to you, Roger. You know, today, Roger, I don't know if you can tell, my voice is weak and I'm forcing it. I'm making
[01:54:06] Unknown:
it louder just so I can get it out. Have you got a a cold or a throat problem or something like that? Is going. Something else. Alright. Hold on. Chris is trying to get in here. Yeah, Chris. Well, we've got a few minutes left. What you got, man?
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've had a couple of questions for Brent. I've held on to for a little while here, regarding the incorporation of The United States. I was under the understanding that it says in The United States codes that The United States is a corporation. And then what about the, 1871 Washington DC Act and then also the Bretton Woods agreement? I was under the understanding that congress incorporated, The United States under the British crown. Can you comment on any of that?
[01:54:55] Unknown:
Let me before you launch off, Brent, if it's alright, you you know Larry Beecraft is, Chris? Yes. Well, you can go to his website. He's got a whole memo on this '81 thing. And did you know that they incorporated it in 1874? No. I didn't. Well, you go go read Larry's brief if you will. Neither does the patriot community, by the way. The other one, I'll let Brent deal with.
[01:55:23] Unknown:
Well, think with me for just a minute. I'm spoke speaking to the entire audience. Are we are we so foolish and stupid to believe that if Congress says something that's true? I mean, come on. We complain about them. We talk about how stupid, how terrible they are, and then we believe it when they pass a piece of legislation that is lawful. Have we lost our minds? Answer, apparently. How stupid could we be? Well, Well, Congress did this and Congress did that. Therefore, it's true. No. No. No. Our constitution of The United States is final. If it's not consonant with that document, then it's not true. I don't care what water.
Yeah. And every lawyer who's got any defense will approach this legislation with, wait a minute. Likely, there's something wrong here, and we want the court to declare it unconstitutional. That's the point I'm making. And just because Congress says we have now incorporated The United States, that would be as silly and stupid as me saying I, as Brentwinners, incorporate myself. I can't do that. Neither can they. They can't incorporate what they are. No. The people of The United the the militia of the United States. Read the constitution.
We, the people. Who's that? That's the militia of the United States. The states. The individual state militiamen. In order to form a more perfect union, it says, do I'm I'm not I'm giving you the brief version. Do ordain and establish this constitution of The United States. And there's nothing in there about any incorporation. Why? Because they were biblicists. And the ones that even didn't darken the doors of churches would never nobody in America back then would ever say anything against the Bible, blaspheme the Bible. They knew the Bible. Like my granddad said, no. Your your granddad knew the Bible. Well, I knew him. I knew that.
But they had a didn't get along to folk down the church house at all. He'd go down there and stand outside and, tend to the horses that people drove to church. This is what my dad told me. Make sure that they were all okay and kinda watch things, but he wouldn't go inside the building. Well, he knew as people did, everybody, most people were churchgoers. Even if even if they weren't, they weren't so stupid as to think they could form a government that could incorporate itself. They didn't have that authority. The Bible never gave mankind that authority.
So how is it we'd be saying, oh, yeah. Congress did that in 1871. And now, of course, we're Larry Beecraft's website. You can look him up. He's got a lot of used to. I used to go a lot of good research there. Well, you can see there that, apparently, that they rescinded that because they said this is stupid. We can't do that. We have no authority. So that's that's the answer I give. And don't talk. Once you start talking like the evil empire wants you to talk, then you you you will be whatever you will be whatever you say they say you are. For example, well, they've enslaved me. I I volunteered to be a slave.
No. You didn't. That's not even legally possible. You they may be controlling you. They may be abusing you because you're stupid, because you volunteered, but it's a legal impossibility that you're a slave. Don't even say it. Just start acting like you're a freeman. And the only way you're going to do that by the way, is to know the true law, the laws of nature and the laws of nature is God. That's why we teach our law courses. So people will know who they are. Think of this. In all of the Bible, every small part of it, every big part of it, much more time is spent trying to teach the reader and the listener who they are than is spent telling them what to do. Paul the Apostle wrote the book of Romans, letter to the Christians at Rome, 16 chapters.
He took 11 chapters out of 16. Try to tell them who they are. Explain to them who WHO they are. Go to the front of the Bible, the whole Bible. How many chapters does God use explaining who his people are before he ever gets to any commands, the 10 commandments. How many chapters? Answer, on the seventieth chapter of the Bible. The first 69 chapters, 50 chapters in Genesis, 19 chapters in the book of Exodus, all that is is explaining to God's people where they came from and who they are. And then he gets to the 10 Commandments. There's no sense telling anybody who they are and expect them to obey it till they start getting an idea who their father is, where they came from, and the longer they live, they begin to understand God has been providential.
Who am I? I'm an American. Well, how did we get in this position? Well, you go back and you read your own history. Then you learn more about how, why people came to this wilderness. Dangerous thing to do. They came here. Why? Well, God has so orchestrated history so that those people from Britain would come here and from Europe and some of them came here and then from Northern Europe and then from Southern Europe and then from other places, why'd they come here? But how did the country start? Well, it started with those people in Britain and Northern Europe. That's how it started. That's very important.
The most important part of anything is how it starts. Okay. We got this culture that they brought with us. We talked about that. That's what brought about this thing we call the constitution of The United States. They didn't just make that stuff up. They weren't just putting on paper the common law tradition that came from those tribes that event that formerly had come from the North Of Europe. Well, where did they come from? Well, they get lost in the fog of antiquity. Some people can trace it out some, but it still gets kind of lost. But all those principles then, after a long hiatus of that fog that we see, they pop up in the Bible.
Well, the Bible then got to those tribes. We don't know exactly when, but we know when Beowulf was penned, they have biblical figures in there they talk about, but we know they had it then. So the two kind of came together in the providence of God. All in the providence of God describes who you are. And if you really want to know who you are and what your identity is, go to the Bible. Then you'll be able to do what it tells you to do and insist that other people do that. As a matter of fact, if you get enough of the Bible in you along with the app the the machinery of application, which is our common law tradition.
I'm giving you the big picture. Our common law tradition is the nexus, the machinery of application of process that allows the Bible to put the Bible, the rubber, of your life to meet the road. That's the way God designed His creation. And He incorporated you, my friend. He incorp Read the book of Ephesians. What's it about? The book of Ephesians, the theme of the book is how and why God incorporated you, and then he incorporated you into a corporate body called the subpoenaed witness group, ekklesia. The subpoenaed witness group. He looks at you, if you're born from above, as part of that incorporation, the body of, that means from, ablative of source, Jesus the Christ.
Jesus the Christ incorporated his people, this subvenient witness group, into a body. That's the only corporation that God authorizes. But then he, he organized it as a trust settlement. Now this is very important. This is, you don't have to know all that. That. I mean, you learn it as you go along, but the more you know, the more enjoyment you get out of life. How God has established his people. The book of Ephesians is not about, as Ray Stedman says, it's not about body odor. Body odor is about body order. Body order. And if you got the right body order, you won't have body odor.
Most churches have a lot of body odor and very little odor. Just a big mess. And God is the God of order, not of disorder.
[02:04:07] Unknown:
Brent? Yes, Roger. I want you to know we're we're we're out of the show. The show closed a couple of minutes ago. You said something was wrong with your throat, so don't feel necessity to be here if you you need you got well, you're on the air seven days a week, aren't you?
[02:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. That's yeah. That's well, yeah. I am. That takes explanation, but thank you, Roger, for giving me good encouragement and good help.
[02:04:32] Unknown:
Yes. Well, I want you to go in Larynx Yeah. Where you can't speak. You know? That's a Yeah. Miserable. It doesn't hurt. You just can't talk. So Okay. But just I wanna throw that out there. So, Chris, did that get your questions pretty much answered?
[02:04:52] Unknown:
Yes. It did. And I I agree with Brent that I never believed that the that those things were legitimate,
[02:04:58] Unknown:
but, I'm gonna dig into it a little more so I get some more understanding about it. Yes. Thank you. That that brief, BeatCraft's got over there, and the reason I know it that's his and he's real fervent about that is because we did a show one time over on through the the media the whatever network it was. And on our Patriot Pet Peeves, and, of course, mine's this Admiralty Law stuff. Well, this one was his, the corporation. So, that's how I know that paper, that memo's over there. K?
[02:05:30] Unknown:
What is his website?
[02:05:32] Unknown:
Oh, something highway, but I I I don't remember what it is, but you put Larry Beecraft in a search engine. I'll find it. Yeah. I'll find it. Yeah. I guess, Larry, you know Larry's wife died a few years ago. Right, Brent?
[02:05:45] Unknown:
I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So That must've been a few years back. Yes.
[02:05:51] Unknown:
He's a good guy. Repersonable, He's a good guy. He's a personable, fun to be with, just bright, and he just can't think outside the box is my experience. You know, John, after they've done all this research on those old English exchequer tax books, and he spent a couple hours with Larry on the phone one day talking about it. And when when he afterwards, he said, I think Larry's been lawyering too long.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
Well, I I wanna make sure that no. No. No. No. I disagree with Larry about things, but he's been adamantly, aggressive for toward me in disagreement. But Larry Becraft has spent his life in the courtroom. Yeah. And he's done a good job, and he's tough. Mhmm. And, lawyering will make you cynical. He'll do a lot of things to you on this point, though I don't disagree with him. But, Larry, has put his put his energy on the line and done a real good job of it. Win some big cases. Yes. Franklin Sanders for one. Oh, yeah. Going we're talking going back the eighties, back forty years. Yeah. And I don't wanna overlook his contribution Yeah. And his aggression. And it takes aggression, my friends, to be a lawyer in a common law tradition. You don't have to be aggressive in the law of the city. It's all about inquisition. It's not about aggression. We are an an adversarial tradition in our common law, and they are inquisitorial. That means instead of having cross examination, they don't have any cross examination.
They just torture people. It's just there. Right degree in our competition.
[02:07:24] Unknown:
We do cross examination. Yeah. I got some Yeah. A Roger. Seven eight.
[02:07:28] Unknown:
Why he placed me at your microphone? Oh, that's Roger? Roger. I wanted I thought somebody's breaking in. I wanted Well, they were. Were. Oh, Roger. You go ahead. I I'm done. No. I was just trying Waheed was having private conversation on the side. He had his microphone open. And you're talking, and I keep trying to you know, if I was a nun, I'd be slapping his hand with a ruler.
[02:07:52] Unknown:
Oh, well, he'd he's always interested in Larry Larry has got good questions, and I'm I'm glad that Larry follows up on his questions the way he does. I think that helps. Appreciate that too. And, Chris, appreciate your questions. We appreciate all the interaction. But as always, we have to we try to have good order,
[02:08:15] Unknown:
so that we can all be heard. And I say this very positively. Can I ask a quick question, Roger? I wanted to ask you
[02:08:21] Unknown:
God. Can can't you just hold on, Wiebe? I'll get you. Larry and Jack in, Colorado and a couple of other ones, have very I call them fertile mines. Mhmm. K? They they they've got a very a mind that just keeps growing. Want more and more and more, and that's fine. I'm not being negative. It's great. Waheed, yes.
[02:08:45] Unknown:
Waheed's another one, I guess. Yes, Waheed. There was a gentleman there's a gentleman named John who has a website on YouTube, and he's, commenting on the big beautiful bill by Donald Trump. And if anybody's interested, they can go look at that YouTube site, and it's very interesting.
[02:09:05] Unknown:
Okay. And I like but Waheed likes to take us off into other areas. But thank you for the injection there. Anybody else got anything for Brent? I I don't want to wear his voice out here because you guys can keep keep him on for an hour or more. Go ahead. One moment. Oh, Bob too. So you got Larry and Bob. Larry is first. Yeah. Bob next. Go ahead.
[02:09:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just gonna say to help answer, Chris in California's question. Yeah. A lot of students state they they find that, that that that statue that talks about The United States as a federal corporation or it says it means a federal corporation. Well, what I believe they're doing is they're taking that out of context, because that that whole context where that statue is found has to do with debt collection, and it's found in, the the 28 US code section, title 28. 28 is And the just as a matter of context, the FDCPA is right nearby where students often, you know, quote that The United States is a federal corporation.
And that whole context, like I said, has to do with debt collection. And I think they're trying to take it out of context to prove a point that, oh, look at The United States as a corporation just like Walmart. It wouldn't be the first time. True. It wouldn't be the first time our community ever did something like that. Twenty eight is treasury, by the way.
[02:10:39] Unknown:
Well, Roger, I gotta go. I I enjoyed talking less more than anything, but I got so thank you a lot. Alright. We'll see you next week. One one moment, Brent. Oh, sorry. I forgot Bob. Hold on. Oh, go ahead, Bob.
[02:10:54] Unknown:
The I won't I won't belabor the point, but what you've often said that I like is trial by battle or battle by trial. Yes. Right.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Good. Then I will can that one and keep using it.
[02:11:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not Well, you're you're the one that brought it up. So I was just I was just bringing that up when you were talking about the adversarial nature of a lawyer where you didn't need it in the in the, inquisitional system because the system would do it for you. You just have to be a functionary.
[02:11:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And
[02:11:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Good point. Yeah. It's stuck with you. The other thing I was gonna bring up, Roger oh, sorry. Go ahead, Brent. Oh, I'm I'm done. Go ahead.
[02:11:31] Unknown:
Go ahead. Well, this isn't necessarily relevant to you, but if you're willing to stick around, it's kind of interesting. I'm gonna claim my moment of fame, Roger. You had mentioned several times that somebody brought up the idea of talking to the officer and saying, well, I would have given you my license had I been in commerce. That was me. Okay. In reference to the lady from Montana. Uh-huh. I have to say that. Specifically was talking about, if you go back ten years in your archives, you remember Rich Iverson. He actually had a YouTube channel called Driving is Commerce. Now it's no longer active. In fact, I don't even think it's up.
But he's also the guy that was putting forward and well, not putting forward, rather brought out the fact that it's not the merch it's it's the merchant that's being taxed, and they're simply passing it along on sales tax and things of that nature. He was a adversarial kind of a fellow and kinda hard to get along with from everything I read, but he had a lot of good information. And the very fact that his YouTube channel was named driving his commerce says a lot, people. Right. His Anyway,
[02:12:40] Unknown:
his website was like section five twelve, something to do with the five twelve of the California code. Section two zero three, five twelve, Yeah. Something to do with Texas, I mean, California
[02:12:50] Unknown:
code or something. Yeah. But, anyway Yeah. Okay. That was Bob. That was my comment.
[02:12:55] Unknown:
Okay. We we love you, buddy. Thank you.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Just one thing. I I know time's up, but about the Magna Carta and the, Jews loaning money, how the heirs of, ones that had died that owe them money, could, just pay the principal. They didn't have to pay interest. Is that correct?
[02:13:18] Unknown:
That's interesting. I've never heard that before. You mean the Jews got a heart? They didn't want the vigorous?
[02:13:26] Unknown:
Wow. I see. But, if there was any left over of, you know, it went towards the debt. You know? Yeah. Yeah. But it they should write off the debt altogether,
[02:13:35] Unknown:
not interest or otherwise. But Right. Well, that's a little too much to ask for. Included in the it it's included in the original Magna Carta, though. Okay. Cool. So that's interesting. Yeah. They're the troublemakers of all time. I mean, you find them everywhere causing trouble. Brent, thank you so much, buddy. We'll see you next week. And for any of our audience, if you don't have a church home, Sunday over there at Patriot Soapbox is a pretty good two hours to spend on Sunday morning. Go to the website and check it out, commonlawyer.com. Thank you, Brent. Thank you, Franny.
Always like to see Franny's flaming auburn hair up there in her logo. So thank you, kids. Okay? I guess, we on the air? Am I connected? Yeah.
[02:14:23] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:14:24] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Yes. Yes, Dwight.
[02:14:28] Unknown:
I forgot who said it, but I I forgot who made this quote. I don't know whether it was the communist or the capitalist, but somebody said that in Europe, they would implement communism using the clash class system. Yes. And in The United States, they would use the race. They would use race to bring about Mhmm. The,
[02:14:51] Unknown:
communist agenda. Well, I'm pretty sure that was the communist that said that, and that's pretty much been same way the Jewish communist is synonymous synonymous. They use, the Holocaust in Europe, and they use antisemitism here. And it works like a charm, although it's wearing off at this point. They're having to try and force legislation, anti Semitic legislation through. They're getting exposed all over the place, and they're panicking. Okay. I will, anybody else got anything for me? Mhmm. Well, I see a bathroom in my immediate future. So and I will, I'll see you guys, back tomorrow morning here. Hopefully, you'll come join us. Maybe have some new folks on. Who knows?
You take it a day at a time and see what it brings, and, we'll see what tomorrow brings. And so was that an old Stevie Wonder? Isn't that an old Stevie Wonder song? Who knows what tomorrow may bring? We don't, but we'll find out. I'll see y'all then. Have a great Friday. Okay? Ciao.
[02:18:12] Unknown:
Did you, did you, tune into that John Moore debate?
[02:18:20] Unknown:
Yep. Went quite well, I suppose. I think John Moore what didn't know what to expect, and and I think he was pleasantly surprised, but it was a a really good in view. And and, Blackbirds Park, just like all his breakfast clubs and all the other things he does, he's just well researched and thorough. Not emotional.
[02:18:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I think he took his hands down. John was powering all over the place, and it it it seemed like he, I don't know, just, beating a dead horse.
[02:19:10] Unknown:
Well, you know, it was just to satisfy a request by a donor. So, that worked. And I think it probably exposed John Moore's normal listening audience to a lot of information they may not have otherwise had. Paul? The dishes? Go ahead.
[02:19:42] Unknown:
Paul or Andy? This is Carol, and I got a different computer. And I've got something that's showing up under my name, and I wondered how to get it off. It looks like an I I and a k. Can anybody help?
[02:20:11] Unknown:
What that is is, that's the, the, crisp noise reduction logo, lower right hand corner of your square. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's it's the new version of, of the FCC app. And it's that logo, and it does nothing. It just sits there.
[02:20:38] Unknown:
So how come no one else has it?
[02:20:41] Unknown:
They're probably running older apps. If you look at, look at, my Square that's lighting up, mine has it.
[02:20:50] Unknown:
Okay. I didn't see it on yours. Okay.
[02:20:55] Unknown:
So just leave it alone and leave it there? Yep. That's the indicator to tell you whether crisp noise reduction is on or off.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I saw that, but but I tried to click on it, and then it said it was on, and it was off. Then I clicked on it again and okay. So I'll just leave it alone and not worry about it. Thank you. I yield.
[02:21:18] Unknown:
You're welcome. Yeah. That's the toggle to turn noise reduction on or off. And, they put it right there on your square. So, if there's noise you wanna get rid of, you can turn it on. If not, you can turn it off. Or if it's interfering with the way someone sounds, you can turn it off. It's a it's a feature. It's a feature, not a bug. Those are undocumented features. That's a feature. Okay. Well, if nobody else is gonna talk, then, I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the string down.
[02:22:34] Unknown:
Mar. Mar.
[02:22:36] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Hi. Ma'am. Hi.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I would be willing to give a donation to, RBN if if if, Michael Gatti and whoever is the most opposite him on RBN, like like, whoever says, vote oh, we gotta vote. And government is good, but they're looking out for us. And the constitution was divinely inspired and Washington and Lee.
[02:23:11] Unknown:
I get you. It sounds good. It sounds good. This guy that don't that donated, he's donated a thousand dollars each time and then made the request of who he wanted to debate and what he wanted debated. Now the first time, it was, Fetzer and Nyquist, and they decided, on JFK. He didn't. So this time, he requested, that Blackbird and, Moore, John Moore debate about, if it was genocide in Gaza and if Israel is an ally or a parasite of this country. So like I like I said, you know, John Moore's listeners really got an earful. And, it you know, we kinda thought maybe it'd be good if it was, like, say, on Steven Whitener's show, so it would be, like, kinda neutral ground. It wouldn't be either of their shows.
But, Moore wanted it on his show. I guess give him some control or whatever. But, and it sounded like, you know, in the first five minutes when he was to introduce himself, he just basically did the whole debate. It was like, you know, I guess he was expecting a lot of blowback or something, but, like, we're just thoroughly, you know, thoroughly, prepared and, you know, and and just gave, you know, it was just a calm debate. It's not like you have to yell and stuff at each other. And Moore had said how he had been on a debate team, but it you know, I thought, well, you're not acting like you have been, but it got a little better as it went on.
[02:24:48] Unknown:
I think it was strategically wrong for Moore to do it in his show.
[02:24:57] Unknown:
Yeah. And Jeremy is the is the one that did the moderating. Apparently I don't know. I I think he maybe helped instigate the first one. And so he's the moderator on on both times But you did. Which is very good too. Do you know why
[02:25:14] Unknown:
do you know why it was morally wrong for him to do that? Tell me. Because if he was looking for content that would help him build his audience, yes. Some of b b nine's audience would be dragged over, but most of the audience present would probably be be Moore's audience, which would hear the information that Black Earth nine was presenting, and then they would then know his show existed and start listening to it.
[02:25:43] Unknown:
Mhmm. Mhmm. It shouldn't have been this is blowback that they didn't expect. You know? Go ahead.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
It should have been on a, independent, channel. That way, what they would have had was they would have each advertised it. So each of their audiences would have gone to that other channel, and then they would have found out about three different channels
[02:26:09] Unknown:
on Urban Man. Well, the first one was done on, you know, Jeremy's show at 9PM at night, and I think it probably may have, lacked for listenership, you know, more in the archives maybe. Hard to say. But, so this worked out fine. And the the main thing is it's a thousand dollars going to RBN. That's the main point. You know? So everybody's playing along nice, and Blackbird is just, you know, above and beyond the call of duty doing doing this stuff. So yeah.
[02:26:43] Unknown:
Who who did you say? Who did you say made the thousand dollar donation?
[02:26:48] Unknown:
Don in Arizona. Both times. And he was he was a little bit demanding there on, like, one of his calls, and, the one he called into said, well, you know, I've made thousand dollar donation. I've made thousands of dollar donation. You know, just just let him know you're not the only one donating. So, you know and to me, someone had said something to me, and and I said, well, it seems dewy to me. I mean, it's fine. Works out good for RBN. But to me, to give a gift and then demand something in return, that just seems but whatever. If it works out good for the station, that's
[02:27:27] Unknown:
fine. And I am going on record as saying that if anybody makes a donation and suggests to RVN that Michael Gaddy and Roger Sales duke it out, I am gonna haul off and whack them.
[02:27:44] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That's not gonna happen. It would have to be somebody else on our b n. So Roger's safe from that. Yeah. And Michael. And then they they wouldn't agree to it either anyway. So No. I don't think so.
[02:27:56] Unknown:
No. Who who's the person or the person that would be most opposite Gaddy that would be the best, you know, opposite polls, debater? I mean, debate might have
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and and I don't know that Michael would either. I mean, he's pretty busy with stuff. He's been offered some stuff, but he doesn't have time for it. So, you know, I I don't know if he would feel that that would be worthwhile use of his time either. But, and I'd have to think about it. You could go to the host schedule page on RVN, republicbroadcasting.org, and look down the host names and see see what you think. One that came to mind to me is Darren Weeks, who simulcasts on RVN. He has his own show. He used to be on RVN a long time ago, and now he's he's back simulcasting but has his own show.
And, I had put you know, back in November, I had put in his chatroom about not voting. Right? And he was just, you know, getting ready to froth at the mouth like so many do. Right? And, but yet this year, just this last week, I guess, it was something I was listening in, and Vicky Davis is his cohost. Right? And, she was saying how she withdrew her name for voting, and he was just quiet about it. But we need to let people know that, the more people that withdraw that approval shows that they've lost us. You know?
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If I might add, don't any of you suckers instigate me crap with Mike or Roger. Right. Asking about each other like some of you have before.
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Yeah. Right.
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Right. And I'm ripping your ass now.
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Who are you talking to? You know, I hope you're not talking to me. Not not not you.
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That person knows who they are, and some people know who they are. That shit just didn't need to be happening. I feel had to do it. One fella is not showing up now, but,
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yeah, I saw that, you know, and it's great that people come over there to, to Mike's. I think that's really good. But like I'm always said, it's like two different professors. That's all.
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You know?
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Why why make them have to bend to to, some kind of cretin, you know, whatever. You know? Just let them be their own selves just like you wanna be your own self. And learn from them, and, you have to mix it up with them. Yeah? So, yeah, I've heard that too a couple times, people slipping it in there, slipping it in, you know, and, it's not necessary. It's two totally different subjects, really. Yeah. I mean, there's some crossover, and it it would be nice if there was a congeniality, but there isn't, so don't process it.
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So do you wanna hear I really feel?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I think I got a
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trust him.
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Somebody say question.
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Yeah. This is Carl in Utah. Did anybody and I I didn't listen to the show today. I didn't have the chance to, but did anybody catch what president Trump did with, the, essentially, the national status or the birthright citizenship, what the conversation was on that. I kinda missed a lot of that.
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Yeah. Yeah. You can get the, the archive. It'd be good to listen to for you. That that that came up here. They were talking about it.
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They talked about it today? Mhmm.
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K.
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Thank you.
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Yep.
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It was six to three against dropping your brat in the country.
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Do I hear rain somewhere?
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Where is all that noise coming from?
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Is the comment from Robert?
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Could be let's see.
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Yep. It was coming from Robert. Okay. I'll now that we got, that taken care of, let's, take this thing down. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That's the matrixd0cs.com. You You can use that link to find the links to free conference call to join us live on the show. The links for Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice are there, as well as a host of downloadables, exhibits, and interviews.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Tax the rich, Alvin, as we we will, take another swing or stab or however you want to alliterate that here today on Friday, June. And, of course, Friday, it means mister Winters is either with us at the time we open the show or he'll be here fashionably late. So he's probably pulling his horse up outside and getting ready to hitch it up to the old hitch and post. Francine's with us, his engineer and producer. Paul's with us, and he likes to come out about this time and tell us all of the stations that, that are helping us extend our reach here. We wanna give them always proper recognition and credit, don't we, mister Paul? Oh, yes. We do.
Senior senior Paul.
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But we have a light compliment today. Oh. We have radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paula, across the drink. We have eurofolkradio.com, which is brought to us by pastor Eli James and Global Voice Radio Network. The links to EuroFolk and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs,d0cs,.com, as well as the links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. That's about it. That's all I've got. You know, Raj, I've discovered that, until Brent gets here, I've discovered that, cutting back on coffee has been kinda helpful. You know, I've been kinda sorta, switching, off coffee for orange juice in the morning. Yeah. Okay. I find the days Mhmm. That I have orange juice instead of coffee that Uh-huh. The day just seems to go better, you know. I see. More calm, more relaxed.
My nutritionist is saying it's the the vitamin c, but I kinda think it's the vodka.
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Might be. Might be the vodka. And I understand that that, that that coffee can be you know, a lot of people's suspicion it might be bad for you, but, you know, let's look at how we've grown up over the last, I don't know, thirty, forty years. I'm assuming most people are in that in that age. Well, you know, they tell us that, oh, no. Coffee's bad for you. Oh, no. Coffee's good for you. Oh, no. This is bad for you. Oh, no. Butter's good for you. I mean, and you get this, the old, let's spin them around here for most of our life, and, I don't know. I don't know.
I think coffee, I I don't know. I I know this. I like it. And I've found a particular brand here, and it's not a a special brand. It's pretty much one of the commercial brands of coffee like Folgers or something up there that is really good here that I particularly like. And, I'll have two glasses in the morning. This is one of the reasons I try and get out of here so quickly usually. I have two two cups of coffee in the morning, then I have a a shake that I eat, drink with, old, some, vitamin mineral fusion and two raw eggs and all all, other stuff in there. And, it would that I take with my vitamins.
By the end of the show, I haven't. So you guys can get up and go go to the watering hole. You know? And I well, I can, but I generally try not to. So, boy, by the end of the show, it's like, man, please, I gotta get out of here and I mean, quick. So, that's one of the reasons, of course. Mhmm. So let's see. Anyway, enough of that banter. Let's see what's happening here this morning. I guess yesterday was kind of a light day, wasn't it, for events? Let's see. Has mister Winters got he hadn't joined us yet, has he? Yeah. Tied the he's probably still getting the saddle off the horse or something.
Of course, this is our program is for new students overall that have a what is that little cricket thing going on? Somebody might have their mic open and their turn signal on. It sounded like a turn signal. It sure did. Thank you. Mhmm. But the program is for new folks. We haven't had a lot of those lately. We had a couple. We had a real good week this week with Michael asking his tax questions that took up pretty much the whole show on Tuesday. And then, and then Travis pulls in from Alaska on Wednesday with that and his sister death is of his of his brother-in-law and all of the suggestions that we gave him.
You know, I tried to say I I don't give advice. I give suggestions. And and the reason is and and I tell you all this is your decision. Okay? I know Roger Sales told me to do this. Blah blah blah blah. No. I'm I'm suggesting this may be an option for you. I mean, as I've told you many times before, my job here, as the way I see it anyway, is, to get show you you've got a choice that you more than likely didn't know you had. If you don't wanna partake in it and and and further your personal situation, well, that's alright with me. You can go and pull the pink cloud back out. You know? It's like going back to bed. You know? You go back and you pull that pink cloud over and everything's nice and warm in there. You can go back and do that if you want.
But, if yes, ma'am. If you do wanna go forward, we will help you. And here's probably an example. Thor, is that you? Oh, Nancy. Okay. We all sound kinda somewhat like morning Nancy. Oh, no. I have not. It came down. They let it out. I'm I'm pretty anxious to hear what it said. I didn't hear the r Harrison talking about it this morning. I didn't hear anything last night. What can you glean us a little info off of it? Okay. Oh, so it wasn't the birthright hold hold. Let's just get this straight. It wasn't the birthright citizenship, issue.
It was the district court judge being able to is to issue some sort of an injunction that barred the whole country from doing it. Well, that's a big point. So I wanna hear what they said. Six to three. I'll bet they said no no and slapped them down. What'd they say? Oh, you don't know? Okay. Well uh-huh. Okay. Well, thank you. Because some of the listeners in the audience can go scrambling around and find a little info on that and read it to us because I thought they also had a case on birthright citizenship. And so this is, I think, the last week, maybe maybe they can do it till the July 1.
But what's going on here is they open up in October, first, October, and they hear those cases, you know, the Supreme Court gets 10,000 or more a request for cert they call it certiorari, which is I'm requesting that you hear this case, basically, the way I understand it. And they can they can only hear so many cases, so they only grant certiorari to a very small amount of cases. Usually, those are have some sort of a basis they like. One of the basis is if it's a case of first impression that's never been heard before. Okay? They like those. And then another one, unless it's unless it's American Samoa, then they don't seem to like it too much.
And the other one they take and like a lot is what they call diversity of opinion. And that's when two cases have gone up to an appellate circuit, and one appellate circuit has ruled one way and another appellate circuit a circuit has ruled the other way on a similar set or same set of circumstances. Well, they really like those. Okay? And so because then they can settle, settle an issue. But I thought they did accept one on birthright citizenship that didn't necessarily have to do with this injunction thing. So it'll be real interesting to see because that one's that has not been heard since Wong Kim Ark, to my knowledge.
That's over a 100 years ago. They've gone to that issue. And and and the the situation was as we've learned here, because Wong Kim Ark is, for anybody that might be new, it's an eighteen ninety eight case. It's USB Wong Kim Ark, three words. And, obviously, he was a Chinaman. And, that was a really important case. All the Obama birthers, that was the main fallback for them. I guess they didn't read the dissent very thoroughly. But, anyway, it's a really important case. And one of the most important cases from the standpoint of these issues, citizenship, denizenship, you know, all that kind of stuff is, really covered thoroughly in that.
And so that's where, professor Eastman from the West Coast, is a constitutional attorney at a little college out there. And, he's the one that said this birthright citizenship never used to be like the baby boomers application. You know, where Mexican mom or Canadian mom, comes over the border, has the baby. The baby's a citizen of The United States, but the parents are still foreign nationals. That's the situation that Eastman says, well, I can't find where it came from. It just appeared. It just appeared in the in the late in the fifty sixties area. Well, that would conform perfectly with Brown versus Board of Education and what Education and what that did overturning Plessy. And so it's very interesting. I hope they do. The big difference there, and I think if there is a case there, and I I believe there probably is, what they're gonna rule is that Wong Kim Ark's parents were they were still Chinese citizens, but they were in essence residents. They'd been established in California.
And and so he was born under that circumstance, so he would fit more of the traditional anchor baby idea. His parents were here not coming off, dropping him, hightailing it back to Mexico so they can bring 225 of their favorite relatives into The US on the backs of this baby. And that'll be interesting. I think that's the way the court will rule on that. I'm I'm quite interested to see. Thank you, Nancy. If anybody is oh, yes, ma'am. Moore. She's one of the witches. But uh-huh. Well, it's a different it uses that issue, but it takes a different view, it sounds like. Brent is Brent is Brent our our old buddy, mister common lawyer, showed up yet?
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Didn't look like he had.
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Oh, well. Okay. Well, he's I'll tell you. Fashionably fashionably late. He'll be here in a minute.
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Lot more
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Well well, what I was trying to get to is see that well, I hope so. They dump all these cases here before they go on vacation. They're on vacation, July, September, and August, and then come back in October when they reconvene. So, they get a nice ninety day vacation. How about that, Nancy? Rank has its privileges. And so, anyway, we'll, if any of the audience can find that or report on it, we'd like to hear a little more of the specifics. I hope they shut that down. You say Trump won a victory, they said? Okay, Paul. You didn't you're, you didn't get all the buttons, man. No. Yeah.
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I I missed you. Thank you. And you and you I get it. And you actually bud.
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And you actually put in for a raise. I can't believe it. Okay. We'll get that button straightened out. Thank you, miss interruptus. Maybe the whole audience can hear everything. So, anyway, that's a little little details. Just paying attention to little details. Yeah. Anyway, it'll be interesting if we can get now Murr is the one that could probably search this up and give us a definitive answer on, what, they said or at least a thumbnail on this release today. So if you, Murr, you or others are self inclined, we'd love to get release? On the the Supreme Court dump dump dumping a case on the it it dealt with birth rate citizenship, but it really had to do with this, district court ability to put out a nationwide injunction
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on something. Okay. I'll try to find that. Nancy heard it,
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on, this morning on Fox. Thank you, Nancy.
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You're welcome. Sorry about that, Raj. I was supposed to send a free conference call to bus a three, and I accidentally hit the a two button instead. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh, jeez. Put you on restrictions. I was close.
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I was close.
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You're going to have to train on these buttons. Okay. Got it, Roger. You weren't Trump and hit the wrong button for Iran. Do what? Well, that was k. Roger. Dave and Larry. I said Paul needs to start putting the vodka back in his coffee. Okay. There you go. That orange juice is messing him up. Thank you, Dave. Thank you. You might have to send him you might have to send him some preliminary
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AA meetings. Yeah. Maybe.
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Larry, you were trying to say something?
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Yeah. I I think this is what you're looking for. Okay. Here we go. Just came through. The Supreme Court sided with the Trump administration and curbing nationwide injunctions granted against his birthright citizenship order in a six to three ruling with the court's Republican appointees in the majority and the Democratic appointees dissenting. These injunctions known as universal injunctions likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to federal courts. Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in a decision that didn't decide the underlying legality of president Donald Trump's attempt to restrict birthright citizenship.
Litigation will continue on the issue in lower courts, and individual plaintiffs can still bring additional challenges against the order.
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Okay. So the birthright citizenship issue is not really up on the table. It's still in the lower courts. Did I understand that correctly?
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That's correct. That's correct, Roger.
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Hey. Hey. There he pulled up that horse and got him hitched up. Hey, buddy. Yeah. Well, that's pretty good. Did they release any others birthright citizenship issue dealing, it sounds like, with the injunction ability for nationwide impact of a district court. Is that pretty correct, Brent?
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Yeah. That's that's all it was, and the court's gonna as courts always pretty much try to do is stick to the procedural stuff and stay away from making decisions unless they absolutely have to. Uh-huh. And that's the same thing to do, not just go off and make decisions about everything that might come up related to the the question before the court. Uh-huh. Judge don't want to do that because it's just it's hard for them. So they'd rather just stick to one thing at a time, and and they did. And they grew right, and it wasn't it was a no brainer. It's not like this is a matter of opinion. Right. Were you gonna say something, Roger? Well, I
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I I I was, but I forgot. So, you know, I I wanna hear your explanation of this. I also wanna say, was it the three wait. This is what I wanted to say. Amy, Conan, Brian finally decided on the side of the president that appointed her. Finally. She's been very, very recalcitrant in doing that.
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Well well, girls aren't girls aren't, the female of the species, as we say, is not stupid. They're they can be fickle, though. Oh.
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That's the point. And And cunning and cunning.
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Yeah. It's not like they they're not thinking it through. She's but bottom line is if you get an injunction against your former spouse for spousal abuse, the injunction does not apply to all spouses in the country that are abusing people. It's that it's that stupid, and that's what this even got before the Supreme Court of the United States. That's a great analogy. Thank you, Brent.
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Classic.
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That's what equity is. Uh-huh. And they're acting equity acts against persons, not things. I see. Law acts against things. And so here, they have an injunction, that's equity, that acts against a person. And the courts don't have the authority to act against every person all over The United States. Correct. Yeah. That's all it amount. And that just In other words, he could he could stop that in his districts, but not nationwide. Right? No. Can't even stop it in all of his district. Oh. That's that's good. Act against the persons that are before the court, period,
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end of sentence, end of paragraph. Okay. So it's just those individuals. Well, good.
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Getting too animated here about it, but I get oh, you're getting sense. The questions that come up before courts in most cases are something that a third grade child could decide. Mhmm. I'm using hyperbole to make a point, but people wanna fight, and so we have courts for that reason. Not all questions. Some questions are turn on a fine point of law, but this was not wasn't one of those. It it was just a simple matter of just upholding the law.
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Is this the only one they released today, or were there some other ones? Because they've saved the important ones till last year. Is today the last day they've got to release them, or can they get till the June?
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Oh, that's what I seem to remember, but I'm I'm not sure. I didn't look into that. But there it says here I'm just looking at some of the cases. Court sides sides with Maryland parents over LGBTQ storybooks. Well, that sounds good. In other words, parents the Yes. The queer crowd is not allowed to try to, seduce our children into sodomy again. Okay. That's good. Supreme Court's okay. Fee subsidizing phone and Internet services. That sounds kinda complicated. I don't know why well, that's under the commerce clause probably.
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Yeah.
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Key part of Obamacare coverage requirements are preserved. Who knows what that is? Obamacare is dead on arrival. It was stillbirth. Nobody knows what it is. It's never been used as far as I know. I don't know anything about it. It's a tax, baby. It's a tax. Yeah. It's a tax, they said. But other than that, they just want more money. They don't give a hoot about people's health. They're the government. They want money. Get that through your heads. They don't care about the health of people of their own families. Why would they care about you or somebody else? Their consciences are often seared off to where they don't care about anything. And even if they did, what they care about is getting reelected.
Yeah. Let's get real here, friends. Quit, pussyfooting around with trying to give people the benefit of the doubt that are in politics. That's where our tradition is intended to work. They're intended to be caring about about their reelection, and they do. And then we have other things in place. We have to have a legislature. We can't avoid it, but let's recognize what they're out to do. That's why their families are in the toilet. You get in politics, you find out that everybody's in politics, their families go south real quick because their lives are ruined.
They live they swim in a sea of sewage. They can't get out of it. You say, well, but why do they do it? Because they love the money and the prestige And the power. Yeah. No question. I mean, even the our we call them the founding fathers. Go read about their families. You'll you'll, be shocked. John Adams. I I don't even wanna talk about it so bad. You devote your life to government, that's what you're gonna get. Yeah. That's what you're gonna get. You say, Brent, I know somebody in politics whose family is that not that way. Of course, that may be true. We don't let the exception swallow the rule. It's so ugly, so dangerous to be there. It's destructive of personality.
Ever try to talk to a to write a letter to a congressman, see if you get a meaningful response back. Oh, they'll send you a letter, but it it's just patronization.
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That's what you for your recent correspondence. Yeah.
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. We need that. We need the legislative branch. No. It's a service. We call it a service because it will destroy your family very likely. Go ahead, Roger. We had a, congressman. I don't remember which one. He was pretty good one there in Marietta.
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And we were back in the nineties when you thought there's some political influencer interaction that might help you. Uh-huh. So we're talking to the people at the satellite office in Marietta, not up there in DC. And, talking about, you know, core contacting them. And the gal gave us a secret, and she said, you know, we get faxes by the hundreds. Don't pay attention to them. We get emails even in the early days of email. You know, we get tons of those things. Don't really look at them. Get a letter. Don't really pay that much attention to it. Giving them the reply pile. Yeah. But if somebody sends us a message or, on a postcard that's handwritten Yeah. We pay attention to that because if somebody will take the time to sit down and do that, we think there's at least 40 or other 50 other people in the district that feel the same way.
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That error a 100, that's true. And I I was taught that too when I was in that ugly world. I'll tell you something else. The Bible makes it clear, no man can serve two masters. Yeah. His loyalty will go one way or the other. And if you're in elected public office as a congressman, you've got over 600,000 people that want to be your master. Let's say only 10 of them want to be your master. That but, no, it's a lot more than that. But whatever the case, it's more than one. And you're not gonna you're not gonna you can't. It is impossible as a matter of God's creation and law that you'd be loyal to each one of those people. That's not even possible. Mhmm. For what they want. Now you can be loyal to what? Do you take an oath to the people you represent? No.
You take an oath to support and defend our common law tradition as it is applied to government. That's called our constitution of The United States. That's what loyalty is to go through, and they don't care about all those other people. They got elected office believing that they were smarter than everybody else and knew what was right. Mhmm. And what they they even think they know the constitution, and they're gonna do what's right. Most of them never read it. But they got that in their head, that kinda arrogance. They're not gonna pay attention to anybody else. And if you don't have that kinda arrogance in your head when you run for congress, you'll never get in. Nobody will elect you. It's an odd set of circumstances that isn't it? Well, of course Yeah. But in this cruel twisted world, that's the way we do it, and it is a coequal branch of government. It is not, governing. It is not sovereign as they say it is in Europe, for instance. But here, it's coequal.
So let's deal with it. Let's be real about what politics is. Let's quit following them. Let's listen to what's going on and watch out for ourselves. Now you can stay one step ahead of them, I suppose. It's possible.
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Yeah. But I like that come out of her my people come out of her Sure. Issue. I like that direction.
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Yeah. I do too. I think that's, of course, that's the Bible. Come out. Don't be involved with that. The purpose of politics is to broil your mind and what's going on, get you addicted to listening to it and watching it. And once that happens, then you will neglect your responsibilities
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like they're neglecting theirs. Well, some people like politics better than football.
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That's right. And if but would be to God that we would have pinch pay attention to our personal affairs, some of us, the way we pay attention to politics. Yeah. Who really cares what those bozos are doing? It's the same thing over and over and over nonstop ad infinitum ad nauseam. Never stops. The the questions are always the same. How are we gonna steal more money from the to represent? That's the question. And they and how are we gonna fool them into doing that? That's what we're doing. It's a culture of lies. Go ahead, Roger. I saw I I think this will blow your dress up as they say.
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I saw a very, very capable candidate that has thrown his hat in the ring against Lindsey Sugar Bridges Graham. And he's getting a lot of support even in the early stages down there in the great state of South Carolina. And I'm sorry. I cannot remember his name, but I saw him interview the other day for thirty, forty minutes. And he's a real good example of somebody that can just knock Lindsey Graham out of the park. So get get that. And, also, mister Graham has, issued a bill in senate to show you that they still totally control the senate, And he now has 81 cosponsors, and it's something against Russia.
K. Given any any countries that support Russia, they put a a 100 or thousand percent tariff on that Russia deals with. So I don't know. I didn't get all the specifics. I just heard a little bit of it this morning. But, thank you, mister Graham. We couldn't get you out of there soon enough. What a blight on the state of South Carolina, quite frankly. But they come out they got some really squirrelly politicians that come out there. The female that was governor that, Nikki Haley, you know, little little Zionesses. And, it evidently is a group of the old moneyed power people in Charleston that are doing this and putting these people up.
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Mhmm.
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Well, that makes the point. You're making the point, Roger, that because politics is the way it is, because it's a necessary evil to have a congre legislative branch, then we just need to get them in and then change them as often as we can. But our laws are written, so that can't happen very easy. That's what has happened, because of those that are in. Once they're in, of course, they wanna stay in, and the laws they've been
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to favor them, it's almost impossible to oust them. It's too bad they didn't put term limits in the constitution and foresee that. The one her name came up last week. I remember somebody I really liked, very lovely lady named Helen Chenoweth, who was in the same class as you were gonna be in, the contract on America class. Mhmm. And, then she said, I'm she came in saying I'm only gonna serve one term. That was on her campaign platform if I remember correctly. She she got elected to the house two years, and then she left. And she went out and married a guy.
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Oh, and what Wayne Haig. You're familiar with him, Brent? Wayne Haig? I interviewed his son on the radio not long ago. Really? Yep. K. Well Wayne's
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gone now. Yeah. Well, so is she. She got killed in a car wreck, unfortunately. Lovely, lovely lady. And then he died of cancer, and I guess Wayne Hague is one of the people I heard him, people say this. He won his case at the Supreme Court posthumously. He won it after he died. Yeah. And there for the audience, his deal was he had a bunch of land out there in Nevada and was fighting with the feds over it and grazing rights, I believe, and all that stuff with the bureau land management. Isn't that correct?
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Yeah. That's correct. And Helen, did you say she was a sweet gal, but it destroyed her family too, her politicking. And she ended up she had been married before. She grew up on dairy farm, I believe, in Oregon. And, peach, good talker, of course, and likable and all. But she ended up marrying, mister Hague got out of politics. And I'll tell you, I I knew her. And then I was traveling. Of course, being in the mining business, I travel in remote areas sometimes. And I was, traveling through Nevada, remote area, about as remote as you can get halfway between Reno and lost but lost wages as we say. Mhmm.
And, I stopped in an old mining town there, had an old hotel in it. And the old hotel, it used to be it's almost a ghost town, but not quite. And it, is on the road between Reno and Vegas. And I got up, and I didn't stay in the old hotel. I had I had eaten there before, but it, you know, it's old. They tried to make it nice, but doggone when you stay there, when something that old, you just can't get the must out of it. Yeah. You smell musty. So I I'd eat there sometime, but I went there. Finally, finally, outside of town, they built a hotel. It was one of the chains. I forget which one.
And there were a couple of mom and pop operations there, but I went down for breakfast in the morning. And, you know, they had a place there where you could get a cereal and boiled eggs. You know how they do. Yeah. Continental continental breakfast. Yeah. Yeah. But they it's it's gotten so in some of these places. A little more than that. It's pretty nice, frankly. Mhmm. And they always have a gal there making sure food is out, you know. And I said something to the gal. And she said something back, and I could tell she wasn't American. She was from some place in Eastern Europe. And so I got talking to her, and I said, what are you doing way out here in, on the edge of the world? And she said, well, she said, I'm married to an American.
I said, well, who's that? And she said this fellow's name, his name was Haig. So it was Wayne Haig's daughter that was her daughter-in-law working in a hotel there, and that's where the ranch was, well, within driver distance. You know? Uh-huh.
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And, He had a a big parcel of land, I think, didn't he? Oh, yeah. Well, some of it was,
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BLM land, Bureau of Land Management, and that's where he had his contract with the feds, you know, to The grazing rights. Right? Yeah. They're trying to get rid of all of those people. Well, anyway, I, that's how I got in contact then with her son. Well, she was the gal. This gal I talked to was the gal who had driving the vehicle that flipped and, this gal's child was sitting in Helen Chenoweth Chenoweth's lap when the accident occurred that killed Helen. Oh. Long, hard story. Now there was accusations of, somebody having, fiddled with the brakes so that the thing would do that.
And I forget, like, the brakes oh, I looked into it after it happened, and I understood that brakes can be controlled. And and, you you if you go follow-up on it, who's got time to do all these things? But Right. Seemed to me like it was highly likely that somebody caused that accident. You know? And fortunately, the child was unhurt. The daughter-in-law, this gal I talked to was unhurt, but Helen died.
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Yes. She was killed.
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Yeah. And, makes you wonder. Of course, she married a fellow that was against the government, trying to put him out of the cattle business, and Helen was sympathetic to that. And that's how I suppose they met. Of course, in politics, you meet a lot of that's what politics is about, to say something positive about it. It's about people getting together that have, like kindred spirits and talking about their problems and discovering that they have something in common, that somebody is abusing them both. And then the more of them kind of people, those kinds of people that get together, the more they can have political influence. Hello?
That's important. Yeah. And, but it's dangerous, friends. I'm telling you. It's dangerous. All of it. I we had a lawyer. He was the only lawyer in in town. Matter of fact, Towne Morrowind High School. His name was, Urbogast. So he was everybody's lawyer in one of those kind of deals. You know? And and, he did everything. There wasn't nothing he couldn't do. Then he he was a judge a couple of times, but he had a thing on his walls. It was a quote about the legislature, I believe, of New York or Pennsylvania, somebody said that no man's life, liberty, or property is safe as long as the state legislature is in session.
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Sounds like Will Rogers.
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Well, it wasn't him. People you say he said that, but it was some state legislator that said that. Yeah. Yeah. Rogers said things like that. He said put your hands on your wallet. The legislature's
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in session.
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Yeah. Well, that's what they do. There's only two reasons for a legislature and common law, but the legislatures, of course, have left that fundamental jurisdiction. But the two reason for a legislative branch of common law, number one, is to pass legislation, originate and pass legislation that can take your personal property from you by force or threat of force. That's called taxes. It's not a matter of contract, friends. Lawful taxes are a matter of legislation, not contract. Duty arises out of out of out of legislation law, and, debt arises out of contract. Keep those two separate.
Make that distinction between debt and duty. So the legislative branch fundamentally has the rightful authority to pass legislation for taxes. The second, the second duty of the legislature that is lawful, both of these are massive dangerous duties, but it's the second duty a legislature has is to put you in a pos put our country in a position or the state in a position where the government can take your sons from you. Notice I didn't say your daughters. Take your sons from you by force or threat of force and send them off to foreign wars. Those are the two fundamental duties of the legislature.
And we have a legislature because that is both of those are so ugly and so dangerous. Taking your property and your children, that's some power, friends. Yeah. Beyond that, at common law, they don't have any responsibilities or authority that I can think of much of anything. Maybe there are some exceptions if I go through it. But just remember, the Congress of the United States has the power to declare war, and that puts the government gives the government authority to take your sons from you by force, not your daughters. No. Thousand times no.
By force or threat of force and your private property taxes. Go ahead, Roger. Germany's,
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announced they're gonna start drafting draftable agent. They do include women. What did you think about the fiasco in New York City this week? Did you aware of that? No. What happened, Roger? Oh my god. You didn't hear about that? Uh-uh. They had a primary. They've got a general election for mayor in November, I guess. And this socialist Arab has come to the forefront. They skewed the voting over the way they did in Alaska. They call it some kind of representative voting or something. And so he even though with 9% of the vote, he was tallied as the winner in the primary, b Cuomo. And he's just an avowed socialist, man. He's gonna make all the schools free, all the supermarkets free, all this other stuff. And there's quite a, hubbub that he's gonna get elected in November.
So that was kinda interesting. He he appears well. He he his appearance stuff is you know, he does pretty good in his speaking and everything. His wife, doesn't wear a heebop or any of that kind of stuff. And, anyway, so that happened this week. You'll hear something about it, especially as we go forward because the Jewish community went nuts, obviously.
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So I wouldn't know I wouldn't know why their their Talmudic law is fundamentally the same as, Sharia law. Oh, yeah. But there's just this Probably, I don't know. But the thinking's the same as the law of the city. It's the canon civil laws of Rome. It's Shiite Islam. It's communism.
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All of those are fundamentally the same. Well, they don't care too much about that. What they care about is he's an Arab. Yeah. I could. Back to the ancient, back to the ancient battle we experienced. The week before. Yes. Larry, good morning again.
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Good morning. I have a question for Brent speaking of, Congress and and the, the laws that they that they, you know, put into action. There's some students that believe that the federal government is a private corporation, while other students like, there's two schools of thought on this. Actually, there's three. And, other students believe that it's public, like the federal government and the state governments are public in nature. And then there's a there's a other another school of thought on this that it's a mixture of both, and I've heard this definition.
They, they are executing private policy of the democracy for public purposes. So I was wondering, Brent, if, you can explain a little bit about if the if the state and federal governments are they private corporations, are they public corporations, or are they a mixture of both?
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Neither. Neither. The governments in America are are entities, in other words, corporate, in the sense that the courts recognize them, deal with them as corporations because that's the only way that you can ever drag a government into court. That's why our courts, for purposes of legislation, deal with them as corporate bodies. That doesn't mean they're shareholders. That doesn't mean that they're, a public or a private corp. It just means that the courts view them as a corporate body, as a wholeness. That's what that means. There's no other way to do it. It's always been that way in the history of our country. It didn't start at during the war between the northern and southern tiers of states or shortly thereafter. That's all patriot mythology.
All of it. Now if you wanna say, is it de facto there for for profit of private parties? Oh, yeah. Lot of private people, including the Federal Reserve bankers, who have a private corporation, by the way, called the Federal Reserve Bank. That's a chartered corporation, but it's unlawful. And I'll tell you why it's unlawful, because our constitution of The United States gives no hint of any authority to government to incorporate or give a charter to any banks. Period. Period. And that happened back during, as you know, well, it started in 1913. But then during the Roosevelt administration, he pushed through a whole lot of legislation that allowed the federal government to create creatures of the state called corporations.
Those are all unlawful. The TVA, the, the WBA we have at home, the Wabash Valley Authority, the Tennessee Valley Authority Yep. Columbia Valley Authority, interstate corporations. The state governments, the sovereigns, may have that power, and we see that they exercise it a lot. Chartering banks, chartering county state governments charter counties. Those are corporate corporate entities. They charter cities. They charter villages. They charter water districts. So that's what state governments as sovereign states, of sovereignties have the power to do. But our but our general government in Washington DC has only the powers that our constitution of The United States expressly and explicitly give. If it's not mentioned, they don't have it as a matter of law.
That's what I know about it for what it's worth.
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Waheed was
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Brent. Yeah. I wanted to say some people would argue, Brent, how are you gonna get electricity to rural areas? That's one of the arguments that they made if you didn't have that back in the nineteen thirties when we were more rural environment, how else would we get to that electricity
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to those rural areas? That's one argument I heard people make. Yeah. Where where you I'm sorry. Where are you, from? What state are you in? Oh, boy.
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I'm in California.
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Oh, and what's your first name or some name you go by when you're on the air?
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Wahid.
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Oh, Wahid. I'm sorry. I didn't somehow recognize your voice. Well, I speak from experience on this one. I grew up where there was no electricity. And the reason there was no electricity there, initially was because the electric coop that was formed under the Roosevelt administration back in the 1930s hadn't got to us yet. It's an electric coop. Mhmm. It hadn't got to us. So we were on the other side of what we call the creek, and it was flooding, and they didn't think it was profit the coop didn't think it was profitable enough to bring electricity to us. Because that was a federal corporation, that was against the law for them not to bring us electricity.
It was, it was a violation of the equal protection of the laws. But beyond that, it was a violation of our constitution of The United States that such an electric coop even existed. Well, how did we do it? I'll tell you how you can do it and how it happened. Let me give you, for example, and I remember this too. When I was growing up, the people in my community and our township owned the telephone company. The the farmers that live there put up the telephone wires, dug the holes, put sassafras poles in the holes that they cut, put insulators up on the ends of the poles, and ran wires from house to house all over that part of the country. And we had party lines, and then they went to town and said, do you can we hook in to your switch switching facility here in town? And they said, yeah, for a fee. And so the farmers owned their own telephone company all over the heartland of America like that, by the way. And they they charged.
They formed a telephone company. They charged for the use. And then eventually, men came along, and I remember this too, and they they called it the consolidated l telephone company of the state or whatever. And they started buying up these farmers' telephone companies. I knew one man who even had his own telephone company. He wanted to work, tell the story quick. This is how the world should work and does work if the government will let it and get the h e, double l, out of the way. So he wanted to work for the telephone or he wanna work for the electric company because they were running their wires out, you know, the coop. And he went and applied as a young man, and they told him, well, fill out this form. He did, but he didn't put a telephone number down.
They said, now wait a minute. You you don't have tell you didn't put your telephone number down. What if we have an emergency? And we need you to come out and work on the electric wires. And when there's a storm or something, we gotta have your telephone number. And he said, well, I I don't have a telephone. I live out in the country. Well, they said, well, we're sorry. You can't work for us. And he said, well, if I have a telephone, can I come back? And they said, sure. So he was a young man, and he went out and cut his own Sassafras poles.
And he ran, he dug holes, and he went town and asked the folk in town, the telephone company in town, say, can I hook into your switching facility? They said, sure. People do that all the time. He said, I'm gonna run a telephone. He's about two mile out of town. So he ran a telephone line all the way into town hooked in. And while he was digging the post holes to put the sassafras poles in so he could put the insulator on the pole and run the lineup, they said, what you doing? He said, I'm putting these in so I can have a telephone. They said, well, can we tie into your line and have a telephone too? And he said, why, sure. And then he's he got to thinking, well, I could charge them. So he'd charge them so much every month to tie in, and he had his own telephone company, and he got that up and running. So he was making money, and he had a telephone. And then eventually, the company in town said, well, we'd like to buy your telephone company. That's the way business works. See? So they bought his telephone company, and then they all had telephone. Then they when the consolidated company in town consolidated more and more of the farmers' telephone companies, then pretty soon they had enough money just to run wires out to everybody. And then they got bigger and bigger. Pretty soon they were trenching. I this happened back in the seventies, trenching the wires and put them all underground. They started taking down the wires. Well, it just got better and better. See? Well, the electric, companies could have done that too, but Roosevelt stepped in. You know, people think that everybody liked that electricity.
Well, they'd a lot of them didn't. Well, that was a the the what everybody wanted. No. It wasn't. And all they saw in it after they got it when I remember this too, people sit sit around at night, and they'd say people sit around at night and start getting dark, and and, the farmer would say to his wife, well, you reckon we ought to light the lamps or go to bed? They had kerosene lamps, and that's what they did. Well, it they ran electricity. They it made them mad. They tried it, and they found out they got a bill every month.
As far as they was concerned, they got excited at first, ran wires out to their barn so they'd have a a light out in the barn and all that. Well, pretty soon, they realized that was gonna cost cost them money more than they wanted to pay, and they didn't like it and wanted to get rid of it. Well, as long as they were tied into it, they're gonna get they had all the all the meters and everything put up. Oh, yeah. It it it cost more money to a lot of people, and it was worth. What do they need it for? They light the lamps, wouldn't cost as much, and electricity was only good to light the house until they discovered there were other possibilities.
But then, of course, in time, people get addicted to that kind of thing. And that's what essentially happened, and then the government has more control. They have control of the electric company. By the way, these electric co ops, when I was in politics, I went to all the meetings. Of course, they were around there. They're a sham. That that people that are in the coop think they have something to say about it. And it got it I they're not it's ugly. The people that run it are often sexually compromised. I've I saw all this in politics. All of these arms out here, these organizations, the devil himself doesn't start organizations.
He doesn't start churches. He doesn't start schools. He doesn't start missionary boards or or, rescue missions downtown to feed people. No. No. He steals them all. Yeah. He doesn't know how to start anything. He doesn't have the ambition, and his useful idiots don't either, by the way. Yep. Yep. And soldiers stole they stole that. Now they control it. They the government makes a lot of money. They got perverts running it. That's the way it works. But if you have, that happening in the private sector, the service is better, and you don't have the government in your business and in your life. Why is it? Let's give it just one example. Why is it you drive up down the road in rural America and the Midwest and places like that, and you might every once in a while, you'll see a house that's painted a bit, pretty big house painted all white, well manicured.
There are fences around the fields and there are no electric lines running to the house when you drive by. Why is that? Because they're Amish. That's why. They're Amish. And you get to know these Amish men and they'll tell you. They say, well, why don't you lose electricity? Why don't you drive a car? Why don't you this? Why and they'll tell you the real reason. The real reason is not because they are stuck in the past. That isn't it. Matter of fact, they got more money than all the people that live around them, and they're more innovative generally and know how to make money because they're more innovative. They do start things. They start businesses, organizations, but why don't they tie in? I'll tell you why they don't tie in because they've told me.
Because they see that if they tie into the air quotes quote end quote, the system, the government will control them. Yep. That's what they don't want. They don't want the evil empire telling them what to do. Let me give you Bless those folks. This is a true story. This really happened. You can go read about it. When the Confederate forces invaded the northern state of Pennsylvania, of course, that ticked people off a lot, but they were making that invasion. They were looking for shoes, by the way. That's right. There was a warehouse up there full of shoes. Their boys were barefoot. But when they invaded, the people that live in Pennsylvania were Dutch and Germanic. A lot of them. A lot of them. Especially out in the country. They like to milk cows, farmland. That's what they like to build barns. That's what they like to do.
And they don't wanna be bothered by the government. That's that they have that attitude just like the Scotch Irish. They don't wanna be bothered either. Well, neither did those Germanic people, that in Pennsylvania. And the Confederates that wrote home to their parents, they were there, of course, trying to take their butter and their horses and their meat and and all that kind of stuff because they were confiscating it. And they discovered that those people that live there didn't care two hoots and a holler who won the war. They didn't care. They just wanna be left alone, and it ticked them off that the Confederates were up there confiscating their property. The one, account I read not too long ago about that, that thing will put rain in. I'm too tired to go get up and take a hamburger. I thought we were at this I thought we're at the Cook County Fair.
Yeah. See, that's the attitude these people had against the electric bill coming to their house. It just irritated them just like I'm irritated by the intrusion into my life of that that device over there. It's the same thing. Well, getting getting back to it, these people live in Pennsylvania. The farmers, the there was a who oh, I knew who it was. It was the man in charge of confiscating property for the Confederate army. He was a Jewish fella, an officer.
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Imagine that.
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I wish I could remember his name. The all the officer officer corps kinda made fun of him. No. I was reading oh, no. Let me come back. I was reading the account of the British officer that was had was sent here to be with the Confederates. They were trying to decide whether to help him. See? He's the one that made this observation and he tinted. He was messmates, so to speak, with this Jewish fella who was the the officer in charge of confiscating property. And he said, when this fella came back, he didn't have much luck with these Dutch Dutch settlers.
When he came back, he was he said he noticed he was downfalling because he couldn't find, they would say, well, we don't have anything. He knew they were wealthy, but they had it hidden and he couldn't find it. And he was getting a cut of everything he confiscated. You see, that's the way that works. That's why they call him the commissioner. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was talking about how he got along with him. He's pretty nice guy and all, but he was there to to get rich off other people's hardship. And, but he just noticed that the people didn't care one way or another who won the war. They didn't wanna help anybody. They wanted out of it. They don't they didn't didn't well, they were just fed up with the government is what I'm trying to say. You know, we tend to think that people are all fired up on one side or the other and many were.
But understand there are a lot of people I for example, read Gone with the Wind. Gone with the Wind. They made a movie out of it. You ought to go read the book. It was well written. But there's a character in there that wasn't in the movie named Archie. Archie was from the mountains, from Appalachia. Archie always carried a big toad sticker of a knife that he would use on anybody who trampled on his opinions. And there's only one thing he hated worse than the Yankees, and that was the Negro slave. And he didn't wanna be bothered by either side. Like all people, though, in East Tennessee at that time, they were pro union. They weren't pro they they they were, they supported the union cause entirely because they they knew the Confederates. They well, they knew in their minds the Confederates were wrong, and they were had been hijacked.
Oh. So our Eastern Eastern Tennessee, Knoxville, Chattanooga? Tennessee. East Tennessee was always Republican, and it was always has always been against the Confederacy. I was down in a lot there were a lot of places in the South like that, Roger. As a matter of fact, from the Deep South, North, in other words, Northern Alabama, Northern Georgia, that's in the mountains, of course. Yes. It is. And on north, they were all pro the pro union forces were as strong as the pro confederate forces. That's why well, there were 20,000 at any given time during the war. There were about 20,000 Kentuckians in the Union Army.
Not to mention that, not quite that many from Texas and Tennessee. But more battles occur they were union. Their union sympathies were strong. There were more there were more, battles in Tennessee than any state during that war because they were split there like they were in Missouri, like they were in Southern Illinois. And all through that area, they were split, Illinois, Indiana. But at the same time, the union prevailed. Well, in East Tennessee, I was down there three and a half three years ago, almost yeah. Three years ago for a reunion.
And, we stayed at Pigeon Forge. And Pigeon Forge of course, there's a big mill there. It's called there was a mill house there. That mill house was huge. It's on Pigeon Creek. Well, in that mill house, all during the war, a massive amount of the manufacturing for the union forces went on, and it was all done in secret. They had it on the side. What's that? You're telling me stuff I've never heard before. Go on, bro. Yeah. They had it on the outside, looking like it was, just a mill. But on the inside, they were making uniforms and gloves and socks and, other hard equipment as they could for the Union Army.
And, of course, I like to tell the story that this it was all over it was county by county in those days. That's why, much a large chunk of Virginia became West Virginia, you see, during that time. Though, again, mountaineers, they didn't care about what the South see, the deep the Deep South really did care about slavery. They were fighting so they could keep their slaves in the Deep South. I'm talking down in the swamps and down in that lower area. But in the other parts of the North, such as in Mississippi, the county where Jefferson Davis resided, the president of Confederacy, it voted to not leave the union.
And, of course, senator Houston from he was from Tennessee. He was senator from Texas at that time. He was from East Tennessee. He voted to not leave the or, yeah, he voted to not leave the union, tried to talk Texas and to stay and said you're committing suicide, which they did. Senator Thomas Hart Benton from Missouri, he both of those men, were destroyed because they didn't support the Confederacy and those in the legislature, hotheads, ruined both of their careers. Sam Houston went out in disgrace at the end of his life, and so did Thomas Hart Benton. A couple of couple of tough men, by the way. You know, Thomas Hart Benton, he'd get in an argument with somebody, and he did in the senate during that time, and he'd say to him, look. I don't think you understand.
If you wanna argue with me and it heats up enough, it one of us or yep. Generally, one one of us is gonna go home in a coffin. And in most cases, most cases of my fights, it's never me. That was Thomas Hart Benton. Wow. But these men were they were tough men that lived hard lives. Same thing with, Sam Houston. No no stranger to physical confrontation. Barely won. He worked for Andy Jackson, who was no stranger to physical confrontation. They said he had so many, musket balls in his body that he rattled like a bag of marbles. I'm talking about he was in so many doodles, you know? Yeah. And he finally got in one that ruined his life forever and made him a miserable, miserable man. A ball lodged right next to his heart.
And it had an abscess that collected around his lung. That was when he was in his early forties. He killed the other fella. The other fella shot him. You know, he got in duel with a fella named, oh, Dickinson. Young man, comparatively, insulted him. He asked him to make it right. He wouldn't. And Dickinson was a crack shot, and everybody told Andy Jackson, you know, you may know how to shoot, but this guy is he did miss. And he said, I don't care. I gotta do something. So they met for the duel, and Jackson was, of course, people said he had to stand up twice just to make a shadow. He was skinny as a rail.
And he decided what he would do. He would turn sideways, give him a smaller carcass, and it would wouldn't get his get to his heart disease, you see. His arm would be in the way, and then he would wear a heavy coat. Only it was a hot summer day. He wore a heavy coat. So he turned sideways, and his his strategy was he'd let Dickinson shoot first knowing that Dickinson would hit him. And then he would he would if he could get up or maybe shoot from a certain position if he couldn't stand up after Dickenson hit him, if he had any life left in him in him at all, he would take slow steady aim and drill him. And that's exactly what happened. Dickinson fired first. He let him fire first, hit Jackson from the side, but the darn ball went into his chest, and his arm flew up in the air, and people said he's done, you know, but he didn't fall down. He stood standing.
And Dickinson was so surprised, he he knew he was in danger, he gasped and he he stepped forward from his mark and the seconds grabbed him and said, to your mark, sir, to your mark. And he stood back up to his mark, crossed his hands over his heart hoping that would help deflect the bullet if it hit him in the arm, and stood still while Jackson took his sweet time, grit in his teeth. He was in pain, and it was all he could do to stand up. And he pulled the trigger trigger, hit him, and then, fell down and ordered his second to take Dickinson a glass of wine and, and ordered they each had their surgeons standing standing by, ordered his surgeon to go, tend to Dickinson.
But Dickinson died. Well, Andy Jackson lived a lot of his life like that, but that last one, he didn't have the what it took any more to that's what Doolin will do. Bad habit. A lot of chivalry going on right there. Yeah. It that yeah. It is. Most states by that time had outlawed it. It's a bad habit because what men would end up doing in many case is if they killed the other fella, they'd spent the rest of their life and mourning and guilt over his widow and children and then ended up, if they were honorable men, had anything left in them supporting the wife and children for the rest of of their lives and feeling guilty.
But if you if you're in an environment like that, it's just the norm. And, don't criticize those. This is what justice justice Stevens of the US Supreme Court, he was in that environment in California. And he said, for those of you that have never been in that world where dueling was the way men settled their differences because we didn't have courts, don't criticize them. I was there. I'm a man he said, I'm a man all for lawful order law and order, and the law should prevail. But I was in that environment, and, he said, I'm testifying to you that it becomes the only way men can settle their differences. And if you can't settle your differences in some some organized orderly way, then it becomes mayhem.
And dueling did have an order to it. And as a matter of fact, our common law trials, our battle or trial by or a battle by trial. Dueling is trial by battle. It's part of our common law condition. But our trials are, battled by trial, and all the rules in our common law courts are fundamentally the same. All of them. My son wanted me to watch El Cid recently. You remember El Cid, don't you, Roger? Yes. I do. Yeah. It's about Spain. El Cid El Cid is about chivalry. It was, Charlton Heston. But what people I love it, folks, is you don't follow-up on it. You see, the reason they were doing that was in Spain, and they were fighting the Islamic invaders at that time. But the reason it's about chivalry is because, chivalry is part of our common law tradition. It was part of the tribes of Northern Europe and the Goths, G O T H S, had taken over Spain.
The Goths are Anglo Saxons. Yep. From and they're the ones that, colonized and settled what we today call Sweden. The Anglo Saxons settled Sweden under a man named Gittin and they also settled England. But the Anglo Saxons settled Gieting, their law and government is they didn't call it the common law tradition at that time. They call it the bullpike. But there are this, 250,000 of them, men, women, and children got up, when they were called Goths, later when they left. And they they started migrating south. They whooped the Roman legions. Yep. And then sacked Rome. Yep. Ate everything that wasn't nailed down, got bored and left and went to Spain.
And when they went to Spain, you know, about May, they took their common law tradition with them. And that's what L. C. D. Is all about. Movie, it very well, 1961, but it's all about chivalry. That's right. And and it's about battle or trial by battle. And in that movie, when one, nobleman challenged another, He one of them slapped the other in the or threw down no. It didn't slap him. He took off his armored glove, his, armored glove, the kind of glove a knight would wear, and threw it down in front of him. And if the other man would pick it up, that's service of process. Service of process, just like we do when you sue somebody in our common law tradition.
All the rules are the same. It's all I'm saying. Well, we got off and we went past the top of the hour and we'd I didn't identify myself, Roger. Should I do that? Well, you can if and then certainly, we'd welcome you too, but the reason is we didn't have those folks with us today where we needed to do that. So Oh, for those of you that are listening, this is Roger Sales, and this is traditionally called Roger Sales and the Radio Ranch. And this is Brent. That's Roger. Just talked to me there. This is Brent, Brent Allen Winters, commonlawyer.com. Www.commonlawyer.com.
If you go to the website, you can join us for our upcoming upcoming law class called comparative law, comparing and contrasting our law of the land with the law of the city, our common law tradition with the canon civil laws that govern all of the world by the code of Justinian and the two two major branches of, what we call Christianity. The canon civil laws govern the Eastern church, called the Orthodox church, and the Western church called the called the Roman church, the Church of Rome. You know, some have asked me, well, what's the difference then? Well, in the Eastern Church, the language they use, when they use the code of Justinian, Justinian, emperor of the Roman Empire, they use it in its original form of Greek.
The Greek, original tongue of the code of Justinian, and the Western churches use Latin. That's the one of the grand differences. There are others too, many others, and doctrinal differences, but they're the same church, always have been. They'll tell you they're different, but the the, Western church, of course, moved its headquarters to Constantinople. Still same church, you see, only moved to the West. And then they begin to diverge because they got to fighting over who was pope and Rome wanted to recapture the thing and bunch of hogwash. It's all fundamentally the same. All of them. They're under the civil canon laws. They call them the canon laws. That's the code of Justinian of the Roman Empire. Well, we're gonna we're doing a law course. Can I can I stop right there and just answer something? And then they took when the Muslims came and defeated Constantinople, the walls couldn't be toppled.
[01:13:48] Unknown:
It was an American guy that helped them build a cannon to do it, and they got the the jewels and a lot of the paperwork and whatever else is really important there in artifacts of that Eastern church in Constantinople, and they went north, and that's the Russian Orthodox Church today. That no. That's right. And,
[01:14:07] Unknown:
that was in 1453, AD, when constant Constantinople was conquered by a 180,000, Islamic church. Well, anyway yeah. And by the way, Roger, when that happened, the the, manuscripts of the New Testament and the Old Testament in the original tongues, went with the people that escaped before that before the Turks before the Turks, conquered the city. And that is what revitalized in the West. Within two years after that, the Greek New Testament was being taught, and Greek was being taught in Paris at the University of Edinburgh. And that, Roger, that single contrary of Constantinople is what sparked the reformation of Christianity.
And the whole reformation, the Protestant church, we know it today, the primacy of the Bible over the Pope of Rome, that's how that happened. It was because of the Turks. God, uses the useful idiots of the evil empire to accomplish his his purposes and in strange ways. Yes. What you were gonna launch into about your course, I interrupted you so to speak to. Yeah. So we're teaching a course on comparative law and using the comparative law text, excellence of the common law. You can go to the website, sign up for that course. You can also get, the winterized translation of the Bible.
A common lawyer translates the Bible from the original tongues talking about a raw translation, quarter raw translation, don't wanna cook the book, want to deliver it up from the original tongue. See, I have to thank I have to thank those Islamic Turks from forcing that to happen. And the and, those manuscripts, now we have them in the West. We have them in spades more than any other ancient writing. We have them, plus, also the Old Testament manuscripts more have come to light through other accidents of history, and they're reliable as a matter of evidence, and we translate the Bible into our own tongues using them. You can get a copy of that translation of the Bible, forty years of work, still going at it, but the 35,000 footnotes explaining why we translate the way we do, and the 100 and over 200 appendices tracing major themes through the warp of the wolf of the text and the context of the Bible.
You can get all that at commonlawyer.com. You can get it in digital form. You can get it in hard copy form plus other books by your true yours truly pertaining to our common law tradition. You can also take other courses. The most popular course we taught, it's all in the can, audio and visual is, the formal issue clauses of our constitution of The United States. And by the way, sheriff Darley of Barry County, Michigan is co presenter with me on those these law courses. Been sheriff up there for over twenty years. I'm just tickled to death to have him, of course. He brings some practical a lot of practical observations to what we're doing, and he's interested, has always been interested in our common law tradition and the student of it as, of course, I am as well.
So go to commonlawyer.com. And Roger, again, I like to mention when I think of it, give your website. Roger has a book he's written, and he has a website, devoted to that book.
[01:17:41] Unknown:
Yes. The matrix docs, it's all this combined information. Thanks to Paul putting it all together up there, and I'm pretty sure everybody in the audience knows about that. Thematrixdocs.com. Brent, we've finished that. I would like to see if there's anybody in the audience that might have some questions or queries for either you or myself. So if there's anybody you got a question for Brent or me, please, star sixes, and, we got a little bit of the advantage of time. This is Larry. Well, I should have known who'd be first at the bar. Hey, Larry. What do you got for Brent today?
[01:18:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to circle back around, to my question I asked Brent. So, Brent, when I asked you, if the, state and federal governments were private, public, or a mixture of both, I believe you said neither. And then you then you made a statement that they have to be considered corporations if someone was going to bring a lawsuit against them. Is that correct?
[01:18:43] Unknown:
No. They have to be considered corporate entities, not corporations. And I do draw a bit of a distinct distinction there. That that that this is for example, the government the general government in Washington, DC, DC is not a corporation for a couple of reasons. Number one, nothing can corporate itself. Nothing. And no no no legislation of the federal government can corporate itself. Corporations are creatures from a more from a sovereignty from a sovereignty, and there's nothing in our constitution of The United States that gives, the general government in Washington DC authority to incorporate anything much less itself, which is a legal impossibility.
Now state governments, they didn't incorporate themselves either. See? The general government is the, product of the states, but it's not a they didn't incorporate. They didn't do that. And the sovereign government of your state is not a corporation either. But that sovereign government has power to create corporations, like county governments or corporations all over The United States, city governments, villages, water districts. Those are creatures of state government. They also incorporate, of course, when they do that, sometimes banks are under charters. The government of the United States by the legislation of 1913 had no authority to incorporate any bank, but they said they did it, but they didn't. That's a lie.
But for purposes of suing let me give you another example of maybe for purposes of legislation. Another example would be, trust, a common law trust. A common law trust is not a creature of state government. It is not a creature of state government. It's something that a private party settles. It's not a corporation. It's not a corporate entity. But for purposes of tax law, the general government in Washington DC says for purposes of that, it's a corporate entity. Now I don't believe that's true. I believe that, legislation, that the taxing of taxing powers must treat state law as state law. As a matter of fact, so much so that that they're not allowed to lien property in your state without permission from the and guidance from the state government there, and all the states have done that with certain legislation.
But that's just an example. But I'm not saying that's lawful, but for purposes of legis of of of suing the government or the government suing somebody, our courts view them as an entity. That's, there's no other way the courts have said for centuries this is nothing new. How can you sue a government if you don't look at it as an entity? Well, you can sue somebody in the government. That happens too. Don't get me wrong. That happens. If somebody steps outside the scope of their authority and does something that is an ultra vires, as they say, then you can sue them in their personal capacity like a president, a governor, a police officer, even a judge. That's hard to do. Yep. It's hard to prove that they're outside the scope of their authority, but it has happened. There are some things they could do that are not within their role as a judge or within their role as president. And that's what they tried to do to Trump. They tried to catch him outside his role doing something. Yes. That's almost impossible.
[01:22:39] Unknown:
That's what we call sovereign immunity. Roger, did you wanna make I did. I did. This is another one of those words that we use that is a big general the government. The big blob. Yeah. Remember the the Steve McQueen? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, it's a big blob. See? Oh, yeah. And and as John used to say, we're the government. We have a contract. We elect representatives to represent us up there. They hire people to enforce the laws they pass, and these are the people we have a problem with are the are the agents of government. So now, just like Brent said, now you got a target.
Okay? Because if they don't deal within their, the required parameters, they get individually sued, and they lose that cloak of ammunability. And so isn't it much more accurate if we were to use the word the agents of government? It's highly specific, and it connotates a a targetable remedy.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That's true. That's true, and and then you can get at them that way. If you're going after to the government, you probably are gonna lose. I give you predictions of probability. And not only that, not only that, they don't care that much if it's just this unfaceless this faceless thing called the government, they have your money to to give you your money to give you, if you get a judgment against them. But you go after somebody individually, if you catch them outside their role, a police officer beating up a a little old lady in a wheelchair, and that kind of that kind of thing does happen. Well, you can go after them. I've I've tried it both ways, by the way, Going after governments and going after those that work for government. Right. It's difficult. They never pay.
[01:24:35] Unknown:
What's that? Right. They use taxpayer money to pay off these lawsuits. They use taxpayer payer money, not That's what he said. That's what he said. They're gonna pay you off with Waheed, that's what he said. He's gonna pay you off with your own money.
[01:24:48] Unknown:
Yeah. So they don't care. That when you go after Roger?
[01:24:52] Unknown:
Yep. Okay. Here's Larry. Yes, sir.
[01:24:56] Unknown:
Yeah. So Brent, I wrote this statement down and you tell me if you agree with it. For purposes of litigation, both the federal and state governments are considered corporate entities. Other than that, they are deemed sovereign entities according to their respective constitutions.
[01:25:16] Unknown:
No. Not other than that. They're not entities other than that. Not not no. Just for purposes of litigation. I think that's the best way to to see it. Yeah. Because, again, let's go over it here maybe twice. I I have to hear things more than once to get it. I hope you're better than that. But as the Bible says, Isaiah says line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little. That's the way we God has made us and we learn that way. Let me repeat it again. No government has the power to incorporate itself. As a matter of law, they don't have the authority to do that.
I don't have the power to make me a person, to embody myself. God embodied me. That's what corpus means. Corpus in English means embodiment. It means, to create a body. God did that for me. I can't do that for myself. No government can do it for itself. That's not possible. That's why when the people of your sovereign state got together, they, said we'd like to form a state, but they didn't incorporate it. They just formed a state government. That's what they did. They asked it's an arrangement. Now listen. I have a friend that tells me, and I tend to want to go that way. I'll tell you the way I tend to want to go from my what I know about the law. When you settle a trust, the common law trust, and that's the only kind there is, are the trust does not exist in non common law countries. That means it doesn't exist any place in the world except English speaking countries.
In other words, England and her colonies and former colonies. That's our common law world. Very, very few places. But when you settle a trust, it's not an entity. It's an arrangement for persons of property. An arrangement for persons of property is not an entity. Well, that's what the people in here is the men, the militiamen and the people, that's the militiamen, and your sovereign state did when they formed the state government. They arranged persons and property. That is an entrustment. That's not a corporate entity. You see, there were no corporate entities in our common law tradition.
They were and then when they got here, they were very unpopular. The corporate entities are a product of the Roman civil law, the canon civil laws of Rome. They came into existence and popular in the West through the Roman Church. Then they infiltrated into our common law tradition very, very slowly, and people didn't know much about them or hardly ever used them on a popular level until my lifetime and until I was almost grown, did I really hear about people incorporating. They started incorporating their farms. And then the from Wyoming, we have the LLC, the LLP, all these, the c corp, the s corp came along.
That's all pretty right recent, but it all came from what Harold Barraman Harold Barraman was a professor of law at Emory University in Georgia. Yeah. He had formerly been professor at at, Harvard Law School, and he wrote the book. I advise people to read it. It's a book that is massive, and it's just all over the board because he compiled it his whole life. It didn't seem to me like it was organized that well, but I enjoyed reading it because once you're done with it, you go, oh, and you got your eyes eyes and your head pointed in a different direction. See? That's that's the beauty of that book. But, he makes the point that the revolution during the tenth and eleventh century century of the Roman church, that he calls it the papal revolution was the model for the French revolution, the Russian revolution, the communist revolution of China, the communist revolution of North Korea, the communist revolutions all over South And Central America.
He and he named his book Law and Revolution because it's all about the revolution that arose out of the the Roman system, the church system, which is the Roman Empire system, then more of the church system, and then corporations are an important part of that. Why? Because in the law of the city, in the evil empires of this world, they don't the the devil himself doesn't seek to control in, individuals, just lots of individuals. That's Christianity. Christianity is one at a time, and God himself invades and occupies your body.
The body he made, he He invades it and occupies it and saturates all your organs and everything inside of your skin. That's what the Bible says. Your brain, your heart, everything. Your nervous system, He's there. He does that one at a time by the new birth or the birth from above of the Spirit as Jesus Christ calls it when he's in, chapter three of the gospel of John. That's what that's how God controls men. How does the devil control men? Well, what he he he can't do that. So what he does is he tries to control as many men as he can by controlling one person. The more he can control organizations, the more men he can control.
But it's not, of course, as effective as God's control. But he can control a lot of people through world leaders, bank boards, stealing. As I said, he only steals organizations. He steals government control of governments, and he steals control of universities. He steals control of what's were Christian organizations
[01:31:20] Unknown:
maybe. Like Rome, maybe was at one time. Not now. He steals it. He occupies offices with his usual idiots. Roger, go ahead. I was gonna say Al Adask when I was doing shows with him one time. He made this statement. I've I think we've used it before. Even the devil makes you volunteer. Yeah. He but he yeah. He drives you. You said he's a distributor of wealth. Yeah. That's the definition.
[01:31:46] Unknown:
And he greases those skids of this debt monetary system, and you just can't get enough of it. Well, some people And all I get that's right. I agree. And he but my I'm trying to drive home the point, Roger, not to take away from your point at all. But I tried it from I'm trying myself to focus on one thing, so I don't get I go on rabbit trails easy. If you get me on one, I'll be gone.
[01:32:11] Unknown:
As as I as I learned long ago. Go ahead. He uses it use uses individuals,
[01:32:18] Unknown:
and those individuals he uses, you see this in Isaiah the prophet and Ezekiel. Both of them start talking about the Emperor of Babylon and that morphs into Satan himself in his description. Back and forth, he's talking about one one, he's talking about others. There are those few people who sell themselves to the devil and once they do, the devil uses that person that's called possession, Demon possession. Faust. They they all that say that again. Faust. Faust.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
Talk about that. You know you know about that? Yeah. I I want you to talk about it. I've heard of it. It's an opera. It was written by one of those German philosophers. Oh, yeah. You've mentioned that. And he about a a kid who makes a deal with the devil.
[01:33:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, Faust. Yeah. I get your point. And and it was it was written by Hegel. That's who wrote it. Yeah. And there are those peep thank you, Roger. And there's those people Goethe. Excuse me. Goethe. Go ahead. You had talked about him a week or two ago. But there are those people that the devil uses to take control of organizations. They are truly bad to the bone. Yes. Remember the movie. Illustrations are beautiful. I can find a view of the good, the bad, and the ugly. The good, the bad, and the ugly. That was a Christian motif story. Remember the movie was 1967.
It was Clint Eastwood. Yes. The good is the good angel. And in the story, he's called the angel. The bad is the desperado who doesn't know how he doesn't know what to do. He's scared to death. He's just trying to get by. That was, Cuco. That was the the Mexican man in the movie. And then there that's no. That's the ugly. I'm sorry. That's the ugly. The good, the bad, and the ugly. But then there's the bad man. And that was, Van, played by Lee Van Cleef? Yeah. Van Cleef. Van Van Cleef, isn't it Van Cleef? I guess. Dutch, not German. But he like, there's a difference. But he, he, he played the part of the man that was truly bad to the bone.
Stjuco was a nice guy, but he was desperate, so he did a lot of bad things. And the the guardian angel, the good man, played by Clint Eastwood, he was constantly pulling Tuco, the Desperado, out of the fire. That's the way life is down here on land. There are a lot of Desperados out there that are not bad to the bone, but they're controlled by organizations, by politically correct speech, by all that kind of stupidity. They just go along to get along. They're they're stupid. They're fickle. They're ignorant. They don't really want to hurt anybody, but they don't know what else to do. Most people are controlled through organizations and politics and governments and and prestige, the university, being a professor, all those kinds of things. And and then want to be accepted by the group like all the students at the university.
Most many of them want to be communist and all that kind of stuff. And you don't want to be thought to be a racist, so you marry a man that's black or of of color or you marry a woman that's black or of color because you're so bent on being accepted by the crowd you want to be accepted by. All those kinds of things. But there are those that are bad to the bone and the devil, that's called demon possession demon possession. It's not the norm. It does exist,
[01:35:59] Unknown:
and you can't always recognize it. There's a bunch of it out there they've woven into our society.
[01:36:06] Unknown:
But the yes. But they're very dangerous because they don't care. You see, those are apostates, my friend. The bible calls it apostates. They're the ones see, if you know that you don't get a second chance, you know you're doomed without without without any possibility of of appeal. You know you're going to hell like the devil himself does. He doesn't care what he does. He's not gonna change anything. Might as well have fun while he can. That's the mentality of the evil empire. Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die. Well, it's worse than that. Eat, drink, and be merry. Tomorrow, you go to hell forever. Suffer torment out in the presence of your maker.
Well, there are those kind of people and, of course, the Christian life is fraught with pitfalls and the Bible and our common law tradition are here, both from the same source, one written, the other written. But the written volume, the Bible, is the final court of last resort in cases of apparent incontinence between those two volumes. But in all cases, God gives us his reveals himself to us so that we will have the wherewithal as we get more and more far along down the road in the Christian life. We can discern those differences and avoid being destroyed.
And God says He will preserve us. He is the guardian angel to put it that way. He is Melchizedek. He is the angel of the Lord. He is Yahuwah. And you'll make mistakes, and you'll get wiser. He'll put you through the fire, my friend. He will put you through the fire. He'll bring you out the other side, not even smelling like smoke. Why? Because if you're born from above, you are his birthing. You he has sired you. You are, as my great grandma Douglas said, heirs of my body. That's what and that's what we are. This is We're his productions. He'll he'll he'll discipline us. He'll teach us.
But be be assured, he won't let you be destroyed because you belong to him. You're the apple of his eye, he he says. I disempowered my children because I love them. My parents applied the board of education to my seat of knowledge because they love me, and it was not pleasant. Whatever I got, of course, like all fathers, my father was not perfect, and so he made some mistakes. But can you imagine how much worse, if you don't like me now, how much worse it would have been if it hadn't been for my father and mother trying to beat me once in a while. Well, we love you here, Brent. So we appreciate your dad who's still alive at, what, 99 this year? He'll be 99 in a few days. Yeah. Oh, wow. We'll wish him a happy birthday and and all of our best wishes to make it over the Centurion Market. I will do that. Yep. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He'd like to hear that. Alright. Hold on, Wahib. What does
[01:39:16] Unknown:
your what does your father eat? Is he a vegetarian?
[01:39:21] Unknown:
No. No. No. He grew up eating pork. Wahib. I'm I'm from five generations of people who love to eat pigs. Oh, Brent. I'm not saying that lightly. What's that?
[01:39:34] Unknown:
Guess what the girls in Germany are doing when they get to get out of the house.
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Oh, I see.
[01:39:42] Unknown:
They're buying pigs. Yeah. They're taking pigs with them on a leash or little miniature ones, ones, and the Islam guys won't touch them. They run away.
[01:39:53] Unknown:
Yeah. The, in the Ohio Valley, I was talking about people in East Tennessee, and the Ohio Valley was populated from people that had come, you know, and then they come into the mountains and they find ways to get over, and then they migrate into Kentucky and and down the Ohio Valley. And all that area, I came to understand when I was growing up. Port is the mainstay, and that's going away now. But the culture was so strong for pork there that people believed my dad believed that you couldn't be healthy without eating it as often as possible. And it's one of those I'm not advocating eat eating the pork. I quit eating it. Well, the Bible says don't eat it, so I don't eat it. But I grew up eating it not twice a day, but three times a day, and we butchered ourselves and kept our pork out in the shed and smoked or in the smokehouse or in the what we call the in the wintertime, we just put it out in the milk house because it stayed frozen, wrap it in feed bags.
But it was it was a cultural thing that developed, and I don't know how it developed in America that you you won't be healthy without pork so that we did eat it that often. Now dad tells me and we did then. Dad now, he doesn't eat that much meat because he doesn't have enough to fight for it, but he tries to get plenty of plenty of protein in his system. But I'll just tell you bottom line, friends, what's important for health that I learned from him and his mother, by the way. I when people live a long time like Wahib, I ask the same question. Now let's examine them a little bit here. I bought my father and my mother who's outlived all her grandmothers now.
I asked them what the most what they wanted to pass along their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. I've got this down in writing, and I want I told them I was gonna hand it out at their funerals, everything they believe. And I got them to sign it, it's notarized. But I, then I said, what do you wanna pass along, your children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren? What's the most important thing? And I asked mom first so she wouldn't be influenced by dad's answer. And she said, well, the Bible. I said, the Bible? You got this farmland?
You want to pass that along? Is that as important? No. The Bible is important. I said, dad, do you agree? Yeah. I agree. The Bible. I said, what about the farmland? No. The Bible. Because if you got the farmland and you don't got the Bible, you're gonna lose it anyway. You gotta have the Bible because that's the the Bible is the the trust indenture documents that define God's relationship with his people. And if you don't have that, you don't understand what your relationship entrusted property is. How you gonna take care of it if you haven't identified it? God help us. Why is it why is it that we're losing where our country looks like we're losing it because we're defiling the entrusted prophets of the land.
The Bible says, you do the things we're doing, you defile the land, and the land by analogy will puke you out. God's land will puke you out. It will throw you out. It will oust you. That's an analogy. But God's saying, I'm gonna get rid of you. You're not gonna be in charge anymore. And I'll use your and you go to the Bible and you go to history and you see that God uses enemies, the enemies of God to do His bidding. Those who hate Him to to to oust those to whom He has given His land and trust. Terrible thing, but that's what happens.
That doesn't have to happen if the minority, the remnant, the leftovers, God's people, will start paying attention a little bit, a little bit, a critical mass to God's trust indenture. We call it the Bible and there's never been a people on the face of the planet that has been more attached to the Bible than the country called America. Never has been. Ever. Ancient Israel of old was not the record they they they gave, that was passed along to us, the Old Testament, Testament, is a record of their disloyalty to God and disloyalty to the elodial landlord, God himself.
Biblical than America. Never been a nation, most important, England was very biblical also at one time. Never been nations more fixated on translating the Bible into English. Never. We're the ones that have not we, not me, but the English speaking world is the one that spearheaded the translation of the Bible into native tongues and still doing it. And we have the Bible here. We still many of us believe it to be foundational to our culture. We know it is. Without it, we wouldn't have we wouldn't have this engine of wealth and prosperity if we had come here as Moors, Islamists, or just Jews.
Who's that Jewish fellow? Very popular. Prager. Prager. Prager University he's got. And he says the reason America is so prosperous as a hardcore Jew now. The reason America is so prosperous because the Puritans that established the norm and put us on a trajectory of the Bible. That's what he said. And then he turns around and talks about how wonderful the Talmud is. Well, the Talmud is contrary
[01:45:59] Unknown:
acknowledge. Of course, the Talmud is the tradition of the elders. Do you know who he just hired? He's a big I don't know if she's over communications or something, but it was this Israeli female. I'm not sure what her rank was, officer rank, that oversaw a unit of theirs called eighty two hundred. You have you ever heard of that before, Brent? Eighty two hundred?
[01:46:21] Unknown:
I know.
[01:46:22] Unknown:
It's their cyber, their cyber unit. Oh. And I saw a vic a a video for addressing, part of the unit one day, and she's going, we have to be tricky. We have to be deceitful. All the typical Tom Yiddish crap. Prager has hired her in a real key position, which I well, I just lost a lot. I I don't pay much attention to Prager anymore. Go ahead. He gives lip service to the Puritans.
[01:46:48] Unknown:
I'm I'm glad he does. Maybe somebody get interested, but he he destroys his own position by his doctrines. But understand, folks, we're not like other people. By the providence of God, not because we're smarter. By the providence of God, he is the provider. Christianity is not fundamentally a moral based on morality. It is not a moral tradition. No. No. No. No. It is a a providential tradition where God provides everything, including the proper law and government and the proper first principles of it. We're teaching now through the book of Exodus. We got past the 10 commandments, Exodus 20. We're moving clause by clause. And the more I teach the Old Testament, the more I am convicted that the best way to approach the statutes, commandments, and judgments of God is paragraph by paragraph.
Stephen Langton, the chief drafter Magna Carta, is the one that gave us our paragraph or our chapter divisions, rather, our chapter divisions to the Bible and we still use them. He was a biblicist to the nth degree. Magna Carta is a very biblical document, very biblical. By the way, we have a course in the can on Magna Carta almost about forty five weeks long. It's all in the can, audio and visual, going through it clause by clause and blow by blow. Good. But you won't find that anywhere, my friend. Please. Take advantage of that. And by the way what's that? Eight hundred and tenth anniversary is just a week or so ago. Fifteenth, I think. And we taught we taught that course, Roger. We began it. I believe the first session was on the eight hundredth anniversary
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Uh-huh. Of the ceiling.
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People say the signing of Magna Carta Magna Carta was never signed. It was sealed. Uh-huh. In other words, the king put his seal on it, which is like a signature, but probably, we don't know. But a lot of those kings and noblemen didn't know how to read and write back then. That's why they used seals so on. Mhmm. Because the and he's he did seal it, and that was on the June 15 in the year 12/15. And we began that course. I had a friend email me and said, Brent, Brent, it's important that you teach a course on Magna Carta and start next whatever day it was, and I did. So I put it all in the can. That was the first time I went through it. I've got two courses on Magna Carta.
One is audio, purely audio. The other one's audio visual. I need to find that other one and put it make it available also for a lesser price or something, I guess, or lesser donation as we say. But, I should sell it with books because I yeah. That's the way I could do that. I'll figure it out. But we can I've got a lot on Magna Carta, and I like to always go through documents in the order they're written. Why wouldn't I? If I can't get the flow of the text and the way the author wanted it, I'm gonna miss something, the Bible included. And if you're not going to church where they teach through the Bible in the order of the text that God himself established, you're missing a lot. And I invite you to do that on Saturdays and Sundays with us. Go to commonlawyer.com.
We're going through the book of second Peter on Sunday and the book of Exodus on Saturday, clause by clause and blow by blow. And the the Old Testament statutes, commandments, and judgments, we pay attention to the details of of the Hebrew text, of course, but I like to present them as paragraphs and to distill from the paragraph the first principle of law that comes out of that paragraph. We just got through with the paragraph that deals with a man who authorizes his daughter to be employed by another man. There are a lot of rules there. That other man is not allowed to sell our services to anybody else.
He's not allowed to have a daughter or his son marry her or try to get his son to marry her unless unless hang on just a minute. Thank you, Roger. I had to these darn telephones. But, anyway, we drew drew first principles out of that that are applicable right here, right now. God gave them to us. You see the first principles of all anywhere in the Bible, the first principles never change. The Bible never changes. The first principles of law never change. The weightier matters, as Jesus Christ said of the laws. The matters that govern all of the other parts of the laws of God never change. But the application of those laws is as different age to age and among different groups and different people that have different technologies as there are needs of man and that's what God's law is good for.
Thou shalt not steal is a first principle. Thou shalt not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. Those are first principles. They're applicable across the board, but the Bible then with the statutes and the commandments applies those MD. Agrarian society and economy of ancient Israel but when it does that you could see more of what the law the law of first principles mean and be able to apply it to your own life. That's our job is to see how those first principles apply right here, right now to my life, to your life. I tell people, I want to keep some time. Well, it's not my job to tell you what to do. It's my job to present what God said, and then give you examples of how you can apply it to your own life. I don't know your life. I don't know your circumstances.
There's no way I could know. I mean, I'm me, I'm an embodiment of God that's different than you. And my life and circumstances have been different. But I know this, stealing's against the law. I found out I can apply that to a lot of things. I have stolen, Roger, in my life. I have stolen other people's time unnecessarily.
[01:53:10] Unknown:
The only thing they can't replace.
[01:53:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I've done that. I've had people do it to me. I confess it to God and say, I don't wanna do that to other people. As I got older, I began to understand. A lot of it most of it, I didn't do it in we break God's law inadvertently, mistakenly, but it's still breaking to God's law, and we don't wanna do that. As Christian men and women, we got a new heart and a new mind that wants to do what he wants us to do. So we learn little things like that, coveting, stealing. It can be applied in many ways. Stealing can be done in ways that look legal. You can even make it legal on paper according to the courts. That doesn't mean it's not stealing. To recognize and know that is the application a personal matter. Well, back to you, Roger. You know, today, Roger, I don't know if you can tell, my voice is weak and I'm forcing it. I'm making
[01:54:06] Unknown:
it louder just so I can get it out. Have you got a a cold or a throat problem or something like that? Is going. Something else. Alright. Hold on. Chris is trying to get in here. Yeah, Chris. Well, we've got a few minutes left. What you got, man?
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've had a couple of questions for Brent. I've held on to for a little while here, regarding the incorporation of The United States. I was under the understanding that it says in The United States codes that The United States is a corporation. And then what about the, 1871 Washington DC Act and then also the Bretton Woods agreement? I was under the understanding that congress incorporated, The United States under the British crown. Can you comment on any of that?
[01:54:55] Unknown:
Let me before you launch off, Brent, if it's alright, you you know Larry Beecraft is, Chris? Yes. Well, you can go to his website. He's got a whole memo on this '81 thing. And did you know that they incorporated it in 1874? No. I didn't. Well, you go go read Larry's brief if you will. Neither does the patriot community, by the way. The other one, I'll let Brent deal with.
[01:55:23] Unknown:
Well, think with me for just a minute. I'm spoke speaking to the entire audience. Are we are we so foolish and stupid to believe that if Congress says something that's true? I mean, come on. We complain about them. We talk about how stupid, how terrible they are, and then we believe it when they pass a piece of legislation that is lawful. Have we lost our minds? Answer, apparently. How stupid could we be? Well, Well, Congress did this and Congress did that. Therefore, it's true. No. No. No. Our constitution of The United States is final. If it's not consonant with that document, then it's not true. I don't care what water.
Yeah. And every lawyer who's got any defense will approach this legislation with, wait a minute. Likely, there's something wrong here, and we want the court to declare it unconstitutional. That's the point I'm making. And just because Congress says we have now incorporated The United States, that would be as silly and stupid as me saying I, as Brentwinners, incorporate myself. I can't do that. Neither can they. They can't incorporate what they are. No. The people of The United the the militia of the United States. Read the constitution.
We, the people. Who's that? That's the militia of the United States. The states. The individual state militiamen. In order to form a more perfect union, it says, do I'm I'm not I'm giving you the brief version. Do ordain and establish this constitution of The United States. And there's nothing in there about any incorporation. Why? Because they were biblicists. And the ones that even didn't darken the doors of churches would never nobody in America back then would ever say anything against the Bible, blaspheme the Bible. They knew the Bible. Like my granddad said, no. Your your granddad knew the Bible. Well, I knew him. I knew that.
But they had a didn't get along to folk down the church house at all. He'd go down there and stand outside and, tend to the horses that people drove to church. This is what my dad told me. Make sure that they were all okay and kinda watch things, but he wouldn't go inside the building. Well, he knew as people did, everybody, most people were churchgoers. Even if even if they weren't, they weren't so stupid as to think they could form a government that could incorporate itself. They didn't have that authority. The Bible never gave mankind that authority.
So how is it we'd be saying, oh, yeah. Congress did that in 1871. And now, of course, we're Larry Beecraft's website. You can look him up. He's got a lot of used to. I used to go a lot of good research there. Well, you can see there that, apparently, that they rescinded that because they said this is stupid. We can't do that. We have no authority. So that's that's the answer I give. And don't talk. Once you start talking like the evil empire wants you to talk, then you you you will be whatever you will be whatever you say they say you are. For example, well, they've enslaved me. I I volunteered to be a slave.
No. You didn't. That's not even legally possible. You they may be controlling you. They may be abusing you because you're stupid, because you volunteered, but it's a legal impossibility that you're a slave. Don't even say it. Just start acting like you're a freeman. And the only way you're going to do that by the way, is to know the true law, the laws of nature and the laws of nature is God. That's why we teach our law courses. So people will know who they are. Think of this. In all of the Bible, every small part of it, every big part of it, much more time is spent trying to teach the reader and the listener who they are than is spent telling them what to do. Paul the Apostle wrote the book of Romans, letter to the Christians at Rome, 16 chapters.
He took 11 chapters out of 16. Try to tell them who they are. Explain to them who WHO they are. Go to the front of the Bible, the whole Bible. How many chapters does God use explaining who his people are before he ever gets to any commands, the 10 commandments. How many chapters? Answer, on the seventieth chapter of the Bible. The first 69 chapters, 50 chapters in Genesis, 19 chapters in the book of Exodus, all that is is explaining to God's people where they came from and who they are. And then he gets to the 10 Commandments. There's no sense telling anybody who they are and expect them to obey it till they start getting an idea who their father is, where they came from, and the longer they live, they begin to understand God has been providential.
Who am I? I'm an American. Well, how did we get in this position? Well, you go back and you read your own history. Then you learn more about how, why people came to this wilderness. Dangerous thing to do. They came here. Why? Well, God has so orchestrated history so that those people from Britain would come here and from Europe and some of them came here and then from Northern Europe and then from Southern Europe and then from other places, why'd they come here? But how did the country start? Well, it started with those people in Britain and Northern Europe. That's how it started. That's very important.
The most important part of anything is how it starts. Okay. We got this culture that they brought with us. We talked about that. That's what brought about this thing we call the constitution of The United States. They didn't just make that stuff up. They weren't just putting on paper the common law tradition that came from those tribes that event that formerly had come from the North Of Europe. Well, where did they come from? Well, they get lost in the fog of antiquity. Some people can trace it out some, but it still gets kind of lost. But all those principles then, after a long hiatus of that fog that we see, they pop up in the Bible.
Well, the Bible then got to those tribes. We don't know exactly when, but we know when Beowulf was penned, they have biblical figures in there they talk about, but we know they had it then. So the two kind of came together in the providence of God. All in the providence of God describes who you are. And if you really want to know who you are and what your identity is, go to the Bible. Then you'll be able to do what it tells you to do and insist that other people do that. As a matter of fact, if you get enough of the Bible in you along with the app the the machinery of application, which is our common law tradition.
I'm giving you the big picture. Our common law tradition is the nexus, the machinery of application of process that allows the Bible to put the Bible, the rubber, of your life to meet the road. That's the way God designed His creation. And He incorporated you, my friend. He incorp Read the book of Ephesians. What's it about? The book of Ephesians, the theme of the book is how and why God incorporated you, and then he incorporated you into a corporate body called the subpoenaed witness group, ekklesia. The subpoenaed witness group. He looks at you, if you're born from above, as part of that incorporation, the body of, that means from, ablative of source, Jesus the Christ.
Jesus the Christ incorporated his people, this subvenient witness group, into a body. That's the only corporation that God authorizes. But then he, he organized it as a trust settlement. Now this is very important. This is, you don't have to know all that. That. I mean, you learn it as you go along, but the more you know, the more enjoyment you get out of life. How God has established his people. The book of Ephesians is not about, as Ray Stedman says, it's not about body odor. Body odor is about body order. Body order. And if you got the right body order, you won't have body odor.
Most churches have a lot of body odor and very little odor. Just a big mess. And God is the God of order, not of disorder.
[02:04:07] Unknown:
Brent? Yes, Roger. I want you to know we're we're we're out of the show. The show closed a couple of minutes ago. You said something was wrong with your throat, so don't feel necessity to be here if you you need you got well, you're on the air seven days a week, aren't you?
[02:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. That's yeah. That's well, yeah. I am. That takes explanation, but thank you, Roger, for giving me good encouragement and good help.
[02:04:32] Unknown:
Yes. Well, I want you to go in Larynx Yeah. Where you can't speak. You know? That's a Yeah. Miserable. It doesn't hurt. You just can't talk. So Okay. But just I wanna throw that out there. So, Chris, did that get your questions pretty much answered?
[02:04:52] Unknown:
Yes. It did. And I I agree with Brent that I never believed that the that those things were legitimate,
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but, I'm gonna dig into it a little more so I get some more understanding about it. Yes. Thank you. That that brief, BeatCraft's got over there, and the reason I know it that's his and he's real fervent about that is because we did a show one time over on through the the media the whatever network it was. And on our Patriot Pet Peeves, and, of course, mine's this Admiralty Law stuff. Well, this one was his, the corporation. So, that's how I know that paper, that memo's over there. K?
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What is his website?
[02:05:32] Unknown:
Oh, something highway, but I I I don't remember what it is, but you put Larry Beecraft in a search engine. I'll find it. Yeah. I'll find it. Yeah. I guess, Larry, you know Larry's wife died a few years ago. Right, Brent?
[02:05:45] Unknown:
I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So That must've been a few years back. Yes.
[02:05:51] Unknown:
He's a good guy. Repersonable, He's a good guy. He's a personable, fun to be with, just bright, and he just can't think outside the box is my experience. You know, John, after they've done all this research on those old English exchequer tax books, and he spent a couple hours with Larry on the phone one day talking about it. And when when he afterwards, he said, I think Larry's been lawyering too long.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
Well, I I wanna make sure that no. No. No. No. I disagree with Larry about things, but he's been adamantly, aggressive for toward me in disagreement. But Larry Becraft has spent his life in the courtroom. Yeah. And he's done a good job, and he's tough. Mhmm. And, lawyering will make you cynical. He'll do a lot of things to you on this point, though I don't disagree with him. But, Larry, has put his put his energy on the line and done a real good job of it. Win some big cases. Yes. Franklin Sanders for one. Oh, yeah. Going we're talking going back the eighties, back forty years. Yeah. And I don't wanna overlook his contribution Yeah. And his aggression. And it takes aggression, my friends, to be a lawyer in a common law tradition. You don't have to be aggressive in the law of the city. It's all about inquisition. It's not about aggression. We are an an adversarial tradition in our common law, and they are inquisitorial. That means instead of having cross examination, they don't have any cross examination.
They just torture people. It's just there. Right degree in our competition.
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We do cross examination. Yeah. I got some Yeah. A Roger. Seven eight.
[02:07:28] Unknown:
Why he placed me at your microphone? Oh, that's Roger? Roger. I wanted I thought somebody's breaking in. I wanted Well, they were. Were. Oh, Roger. You go ahead. I I'm done. No. I was just trying Waheed was having private conversation on the side. He had his microphone open. And you're talking, and I keep trying to you know, if I was a nun, I'd be slapping his hand with a ruler.
[02:07:52] Unknown:
Oh, well, he'd he's always interested in Larry Larry has got good questions, and I'm I'm glad that Larry follows up on his questions the way he does. I think that helps. Appreciate that too. And, Chris, appreciate your questions. We appreciate all the interaction. But as always, we have to we try to have good order,
[02:08:15] Unknown:
so that we can all be heard. And I say this very positively. Can I ask a quick question, Roger? I wanted to ask you
[02:08:21] Unknown:
God. Can can't you just hold on, Wiebe? I'll get you. Larry and Jack in, Colorado and a couple of other ones, have very I call them fertile mines. Mhmm. K? They they they've got a very a mind that just keeps growing. Want more and more and more, and that's fine. I'm not being negative. It's great. Waheed, yes.
[02:08:45] Unknown:
Waheed's another one, I guess. Yes, Waheed. There was a gentleman there's a gentleman named John who has a website on YouTube, and he's, commenting on the big beautiful bill by Donald Trump. And if anybody's interested, they can go look at that YouTube site, and it's very interesting.
[02:09:05] Unknown:
Okay. And I like but Waheed likes to take us off into other areas. But thank you for the injection there. Anybody else got anything for Brent? I I don't want to wear his voice out here because you guys can keep keep him on for an hour or more. Go ahead. One moment. Oh, Bob too. So you got Larry and Bob. Larry is first. Yeah. Bob next. Go ahead.
[02:09:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just gonna say to help answer, Chris in California's question. Yeah. A lot of students state they they find that, that that that statue that talks about The United States as a federal corporation or it says it means a federal corporation. Well, what I believe they're doing is they're taking that out of context, because that that whole context where that statue is found has to do with debt collection, and it's found in, the the 28 US code section, title 28. 28 is And the just as a matter of context, the FDCPA is right nearby where students often, you know, quote that The United States is a federal corporation.
And that whole context, like I said, has to do with debt collection. And I think they're trying to take it out of context to prove a point that, oh, look at The United States as a corporation just like Walmart. It wouldn't be the first time. True. It wouldn't be the first time our community ever did something like that. Twenty eight is treasury, by the way.
[02:10:39] Unknown:
Well, Roger, I gotta go. I I enjoyed talking less more than anything, but I got so thank you a lot. Alright. We'll see you next week. One one moment, Brent. Oh, sorry. I forgot Bob. Hold on. Oh, go ahead, Bob.
[02:10:54] Unknown:
The I won't I won't belabor the point, but what you've often said that I like is trial by battle or battle by trial. Yes. Right.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Good. Then I will can that one and keep using it.
[02:11:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not Well, you're you're the one that brought it up. So I was just I was just bringing that up when you were talking about the adversarial nature of a lawyer where you didn't need it in the in the, inquisitional system because the system would do it for you. You just have to be a functionary.
[02:11:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And
[02:11:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Good point. Yeah. It's stuck with you. The other thing I was gonna bring up, Roger oh, sorry. Go ahead, Brent. Oh, I'm I'm done. Go ahead.
[02:11:31] Unknown:
Go ahead. Well, this isn't necessarily relevant to you, but if you're willing to stick around, it's kind of interesting. I'm gonna claim my moment of fame, Roger. You had mentioned several times that somebody brought up the idea of talking to the officer and saying, well, I would have given you my license had I been in commerce. That was me. Okay. In reference to the lady from Montana. Uh-huh. I have to say that. Specifically was talking about, if you go back ten years in your archives, you remember Rich Iverson. He actually had a YouTube channel called Driving is Commerce. Now it's no longer active. In fact, I don't even think it's up.
But he's also the guy that was putting forward and well, not putting forward, rather brought out the fact that it's not the merch it's it's the merchant that's being taxed, and they're simply passing it along on sales tax and things of that nature. He was a adversarial kind of a fellow and kinda hard to get along with from everything I read, but he had a lot of good information. And the very fact that his YouTube channel was named driving his commerce says a lot, people. Right. His Anyway,
[02:12:40] Unknown:
his website was like section five twelve, something to do with the five twelve of the California code. Section two zero three, five twelve, Yeah. Something to do with Texas, I mean, California
[02:12:50] Unknown:
code or something. Yeah. But, anyway Yeah. Okay. That was Bob. That was my comment.
[02:12:55] Unknown:
Okay. We we love you, buddy. Thank you.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Just one thing. I I know time's up, but about the Magna Carta and the, Jews loaning money, how the heirs of, ones that had died that owe them money, could, just pay the principal. They didn't have to pay interest. Is that correct?
[02:13:18] Unknown:
That's interesting. I've never heard that before. You mean the Jews got a heart? They didn't want the vigorous?
[02:13:26] Unknown:
Wow. I see. But, if there was any left over of, you know, it went towards the debt. You know? Yeah. Yeah. But it they should write off the debt altogether,
[02:13:35] Unknown:
not interest or otherwise. But Right. Well, that's a little too much to ask for. Included in the it it's included in the original Magna Carta, though. Okay. Cool. So that's interesting. Yeah. They're the troublemakers of all time. I mean, you find them everywhere causing trouble. Brent, thank you so much, buddy. We'll see you next week. And for any of our audience, if you don't have a church home, Sunday over there at Patriot Soapbox is a pretty good two hours to spend on Sunday morning. Go to the website and check it out, commonlawyer.com. Thank you, Brent. Thank you, Franny.
Always like to see Franny's flaming auburn hair up there in her logo. So thank you, kids. Okay? I guess, we on the air? Am I connected? Yeah.
[02:14:23] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:14:24] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Yes. Yes, Dwight.
[02:14:28] Unknown:
I forgot who said it, but I I forgot who made this quote. I don't know whether it was the communist or the capitalist, but somebody said that in Europe, they would implement communism using the clash class system. Yes. And in The United States, they would use the race. They would use race to bring about Mhmm. The,
[02:14:51] Unknown:
communist agenda. Well, I'm pretty sure that was the communist that said that, and that's pretty much been same way the Jewish communist is synonymous synonymous. They use, the Holocaust in Europe, and they use antisemitism here. And it works like a charm, although it's wearing off at this point. They're having to try and force legislation, anti Semitic legislation through. They're getting exposed all over the place, and they're panicking. Okay. I will, anybody else got anything for me? Mhmm. Well, I see a bathroom in my immediate future. So and I will, I'll see you guys, back tomorrow morning here. Hopefully, you'll come join us. Maybe have some new folks on. Who knows?
You take it a day at a time and see what it brings, and, we'll see what tomorrow brings. And so was that an old Stevie Wonder? Isn't that an old Stevie Wonder song? Who knows what tomorrow may bring? We don't, but we'll find out. I'll see y'all then. Have a great Friday. Okay? Ciao.
[02:18:12] Unknown:
Did you, did you, tune into that John Moore debate?
[02:18:20] Unknown:
Yep. Went quite well, I suppose. I think John Moore what didn't know what to expect, and and I think he was pleasantly surprised, but it was a a really good in view. And and, Blackbirds Park, just like all his breakfast clubs and all the other things he does, he's just well researched and thorough. Not emotional.
[02:18:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I think he took his hands down. John was powering all over the place, and it it it seemed like he, I don't know, just, beating a dead horse.
[02:19:10] Unknown:
Well, you know, it was just to satisfy a request by a donor. So, that worked. And I think it probably exposed John Moore's normal listening audience to a lot of information they may not have otherwise had. Paul? The dishes? Go ahead.
[02:19:42] Unknown:
Paul or Andy? This is Carol, and I got a different computer. And I've got something that's showing up under my name, and I wondered how to get it off. It looks like an I I and a k. Can anybody help?
[02:20:11] Unknown:
What that is is, that's the, the, crisp noise reduction logo, lower right hand corner of your square. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's it's the new version of, of the FCC app. And it's that logo, and it does nothing. It just sits there.
[02:20:38] Unknown:
So how come no one else has it?
[02:20:41] Unknown:
They're probably running older apps. If you look at, look at, my Square that's lighting up, mine has it.
[02:20:50] Unknown:
Okay. I didn't see it on yours. Okay.
[02:20:55] Unknown:
So just leave it alone and leave it there? Yep. That's the indicator to tell you whether crisp noise reduction is on or off.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I saw that, but but I tried to click on it, and then it said it was on, and it was off. Then I clicked on it again and okay. So I'll just leave it alone and not worry about it. Thank you. I yield.
[02:21:18] Unknown:
You're welcome. Yeah. That's the toggle to turn noise reduction on or off. And, they put it right there on your square. So, if there's noise you wanna get rid of, you can turn it on. If not, you can turn it off. Or if it's interfering with the way someone sounds, you can turn it off. It's a it's a feature. It's a feature, not a bug. Those are undocumented features. That's a feature. Okay. Well, if nobody else is gonna talk, then, I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the string down.
[02:22:34] Unknown:
Mar. Mar.
[02:22:36] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Hi. Ma'am. Hi.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I would be willing to give a donation to, RBN if if if, Michael Gatti and whoever is the most opposite him on RBN, like like, whoever says, vote oh, we gotta vote. And government is good, but they're looking out for us. And the constitution was divinely inspired and Washington and Lee.
[02:23:11] Unknown:
I get you. It sounds good. It sounds good. This guy that don't that donated, he's donated a thousand dollars each time and then made the request of who he wanted to debate and what he wanted debated. Now the first time, it was, Fetzer and Nyquist, and they decided, on JFK. He didn't. So this time, he requested, that Blackbird and, Moore, John Moore debate about, if it was genocide in Gaza and if Israel is an ally or a parasite of this country. So like I like I said, you know, John Moore's listeners really got an earful. And, it you know, we kinda thought maybe it'd be good if it was, like, say, on Steven Whitener's show, so it would be, like, kinda neutral ground. It wouldn't be either of their shows.
But, Moore wanted it on his show. I guess give him some control or whatever. But, and it sounded like, you know, in the first five minutes when he was to introduce himself, he just basically did the whole debate. It was like, you know, I guess he was expecting a lot of blowback or something, but, like, we're just thoroughly, you know, thoroughly, prepared and, you know, and and just gave, you know, it was just a calm debate. It's not like you have to yell and stuff at each other. And Moore had said how he had been on a debate team, but it you know, I thought, well, you're not acting like you have been, but it got a little better as it went on.
[02:24:48] Unknown:
I think it was strategically wrong for Moore to do it in his show.
[02:24:57] Unknown:
Yeah. And Jeremy is the is the one that did the moderating. Apparently I don't know. I I think he maybe helped instigate the first one. And so he's the moderator on on both times But you did. Which is very good too. Do you know why
[02:25:14] Unknown:
do you know why it was morally wrong for him to do that? Tell me. Because if he was looking for content that would help him build his audience, yes. Some of b b nine's audience would be dragged over, but most of the audience present would probably be be Moore's audience, which would hear the information that Black Earth nine was presenting, and then they would then know his show existed and start listening to it.
[02:25:43] Unknown:
Mhmm. Mhmm. It shouldn't have been this is blowback that they didn't expect. You know? Go ahead.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
It should have been on a, independent, channel. That way, what they would have had was they would have each advertised it. So each of their audiences would have gone to that other channel, and then they would have found out about three different channels
[02:26:09] Unknown:
on Urban Man. Well, the first one was done on, you know, Jeremy's show at 9PM at night, and I think it probably may have, lacked for listenership, you know, more in the archives maybe. Hard to say. But, so this worked out fine. And the the main thing is it's a thousand dollars going to RBN. That's the main point. You know? So everybody's playing along nice, and Blackbird is just, you know, above and beyond the call of duty doing doing this stuff. So yeah.
[02:26:43] Unknown:
Who who did you say? Who did you say made the thousand dollar donation?
[02:26:48] Unknown:
Don in Arizona. Both times. And he was he was a little bit demanding there on, like, one of his calls, and, the one he called into said, well, you know, I've made thousand dollar donation. I've made thousands of dollar donation. You know, just just let him know you're not the only one donating. So, you know and to me, someone had said something to me, and and I said, well, it seems dewy to me. I mean, it's fine. Works out good for RBN. But to me, to give a gift and then demand something in return, that just seems but whatever. If it works out good for the station, that's
[02:27:27] Unknown:
fine. And I am going on record as saying that if anybody makes a donation and suggests to RVN that Michael Gaddy and Roger Sales duke it out, I am gonna haul off and whack them.
[02:27:44] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That's not gonna happen. It would have to be somebody else on our b n. So Roger's safe from that. Yeah. And Michael. And then they they wouldn't agree to it either anyway. So No. I don't think so.
[02:27:56] Unknown:
No. Who who's the person or the person that would be most opposite Gaddy that would be the best, you know, opposite polls, debater? I mean, debate might have
[02:28:12] Unknown:
and and I don't know that Michael would either. I mean, he's pretty busy with stuff. He's been offered some stuff, but he doesn't have time for it. So, you know, I I don't know if he would feel that that would be worthwhile use of his time either. But, and I'd have to think about it. You could go to the host schedule page on RVN, republicbroadcasting.org, and look down the host names and see see what you think. One that came to mind to me is Darren Weeks, who simulcasts on RVN. He has his own show. He used to be on RVN a long time ago, and now he's he's back simulcasting but has his own show.
And, I had put you know, back in November, I had put in his chatroom about not voting. Right? And he was just, you know, getting ready to froth at the mouth like so many do. Right? And, but yet this year, just this last week, I guess, it was something I was listening in, and Vicky Davis is his cohost. Right? And, she was saying how she withdrew her name for voting, and he was just quiet about it. But we need to let people know that, the more people that withdraw that approval shows that they've lost us. You know?
[02:29:30] Unknown:
If I might add, don't any of you suckers instigate me crap with Mike or Roger. Right. Asking about each other like some of you have before.
[02:29:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Right.
[02:29:46] Unknown:
Right. And I'm ripping your ass now.
[02:29:50] Unknown:
Who are you talking to? You know, I hope you're not talking to me. Not not not you.
[02:29:55] Unknown:
That person knows who they are, and some people know who they are. That shit just didn't need to be happening. I feel had to do it. One fella is not showing up now, but,
[02:30:06] Unknown:
yeah, I saw that, you know, and it's great that people come over there to, to Mike's. I think that's really good. But like I'm always said, it's like two different professors. That's all.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
You know?
[02:30:19] Unknown:
Why why make them have to bend to to, some kind of cretin, you know, whatever. You know? Just let them be their own selves just like you wanna be your own self. And learn from them, and, you have to mix it up with them. Yeah? So, yeah, I've heard that too a couple times, people slipping it in there, slipping it in, you know, and, it's not necessary. It's two totally different subjects, really. Yeah. I mean, there's some crossover, and it it would be nice if there was a congeniality, but there isn't, so don't process it.
[02:30:55] Unknown:
So do you wanna hear I really feel?
[02:30:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:31:05] Unknown:
I think I got a
[02:31:08] Unknown:
trust him.
[02:31:12] Unknown:
Somebody say question.
[02:31:17] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Carl in Utah. Did anybody and I I didn't listen to the show today. I didn't have the chance to, but did anybody catch what president Trump did with, the, essentially, the national status or the birthright citizenship, what the conversation was on that. I kinda missed a lot of that.
[02:31:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You can get the, the archive. It'd be good to listen to for you. That that that came up here. They were talking about it.
[02:31:53] Unknown:
They talked about it today? Mhmm.
[02:31:56] Unknown:
K.
[02:32:02] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:32:05] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:32:06] Unknown:
It was six to three against dropping your brat in the country.
[02:32:35] Unknown:
Do I hear rain somewhere?
[02:33:38] Unknown:
Where is all that noise coming from?
[02:34:02] Unknown:
Is the comment from Robert?
[02:34:10] Unknown:
Could be let's see.
[02:34:13] Unknown:
Yep. It was coming from Robert. Okay. I'll now that we got, that taken care of, let's, take this thing down. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That's the matrixd0cs.com. You You can use that link to find the links to free conference call to join us live on the show. The links for Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice are there, as well as a host of downloadables, exhibits, and interviews.
Also, links to books, by Common Lawyer and Roger Sales and all that fun stuff. Catch you later. Bye. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:35:41] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Show Setup
Coffee and Morning Routines
Program Purpose and Listener Engagement
Supreme Court Ruling Discussion
Politics and Government Critique
Historical Perspectives on Politics
Legal System and Government Structure
Historical Accounts and Personal Stories
Biblical and Legal Principles
Listener Questions and Closing Remarks
