In this episode of the Radio Ranch, hosts Roger Sayles and Brent Allen Winters delve into a wide array of topics, exploring the intricacies of common law, property taxes, and the concept of sovereignty. They discuss the historical context and implications of property taxes, the differences between common law and the law of the city, and the significance of due process. The conversation also touches on the cultural and religious influences on government systems, particularly in relation to the United States and Mexico.
Additionally, the hosts engage with listeners' questions about naturalization, the process of becoming a national, and the implications of the 1933 bankruptcy on the American financial system. The episode is rich with historical references and legal insights, providing listeners with a deeper understanding of the legal and cultural frameworks that shape governance and personal freedoms. The discussion is both educational and thought-provoking, encouraging listeners to consider the broader implications of law and governance in their daily lives.
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Thank you, Alvin. So would we. And we're going to swing at it again here on the, what is it, the May 16. We're into the we're into the odds of May as we're talking about yesterday. Anyway, about halfway through the month here, Friday edition. My old old cohost here, no aspersions there. I meant in a length of time we've been doing it. My old cohost here, Brent Winters, on Friday is here earlier today. Boy, is that unusual? And, Roger Sales, and we're glad to have you along for the ride. It is at this stage of the program when we bring out mister Beaner, because right off the bat, we wanna thank and and recognize the people that help us here, don't we, Paul?
And Paul's since Paul's the one that's taking them in and out and knows everything about all our associates here, we bring him out to do justice to this and give them proper credit and recognition for their assistance. Or as you'd say in Spanish, they're.
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Go ahead, Paul. To be fair, I don't know everything about them. That would just be being nosy, but I but I can see the screen that everybody's connected to. So so I know I know that all the usual suspects are here, and, let's see now. For the first tower today, we'll be on 106.9 WBOU FM in Chicago, the pulse of Chicago. And for, the full two hours, we will be on radiosoapbox.com, eurofolkradio.com, and Global Voice Radio Network. Joining us also from the NET family of broadcast services is home network net TV, freedom nation dot TV, go live TV, and stream life.tube. I don't know if they're with us for one hour or two hours, but, they are they are here now.
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Mhmm.
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Our website, thematrixdocs.com, where you can find the free conference call link to join us live on the show. Like I said Yeah. And have said before, got room for about a thousand of you. Come on down. There you go. Come on, folks. Come on. We get free popcorn.
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Morning, Brent.
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Hi. How are you, Roger? I hope things are going good down there.
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Pretty good. I'm fighting this this battle on this phone thing. It's it's not as critical for you guys up there as it is for me because you can pick up a cell phone. Everybody's got some sort of plan. I don't think you don't have too many people that do phone by the minute up there, do you? No. No. Well, see, a lot of people do that down here. K? And so we just go buy, you know, 2 or $3, 5 dollars, 10 dollar, whatever when you want, and they load it up. It's a little more expensive. But for somebody that hardly ever uses a cell phone like me, it's considerably cheaper than $15.20 bucks a month, whatever it is.
Uh-huh. So and you can take that cell phone and call anywhere in The US, I think, toll free now. Well, I can't do that. And, Skype has always been my go to ever since. One of the things that enabled me to live down here like I have for all these years is Skype and its connection back to The US at very inexpensive prices. And so, anyway, that's gone. And, so we're scrambling to try and get a substitute occasionally. I need to call, the bank on the 800 number or somebody else or do consultations and whatever. And so I've had a hell of a time trying to get this little apparatus that's been around for a long time called magicJack. Uh-huh. And it taps into VOIP, you know, and allows you to do all that fairly inexpensively, $45 a year or something.
But I have not been able to get on their Internet site and get an order through, and it just took up hours yesterday just trying. And, anyway, been kinda frustrating. We'll get to it. It's not super critical, but, it's a change thanks to, you know, Microsoft and the way they do things over there. Bernadette, I heard about a new drug that's in The US now that I had not heard about before this morning. It's kind of a derivative of fentanyl. It's called tranq. Have you ever heard of this, Paul, or or Brent or anybody drank?
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No. Yeah. It's been around for a while.
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I guess I will. I'm just I I I it seems like I'd heard about it, but I was just getting refamiliarized with it. It's coming into The US because of a change a manufacturer in China has done and where they used to take the precursor, chemicals, and they would send it to the cartels in Mexico. They would do whatever final things needed to be done and put it in pill form and all that and smuggle it in. Uh-huh. Well, this Chinese and that was a, I remember it was liquid. I think it was a liquid. Anyway, it had to go through the cartels. And what they've done is they've gone back and gotten it worse just in total powder form, and they could sell it straight into The US.
And so now the people that they're selling to to distribute it into the cities, the the cartels are going around and then assassinating them because they're cutting in on their deal. It's just a little video I saw here a couple minutes before you went on the air, but I was not familiar with that. And, what a scourge. You know, I've maintained for a while that what's going on here, Brent, is the Chinese are coming back, and, they've picked up the, the retribution sword, if you will, for the opium wars. I think we're in the third opium war right now, quite frankly, even though, evidently, China has signed a deal with Trump just this week on these tariffs, and part of that includes stopping these precursor chemicals.
We'll see. Okay? Yeah. I wouldn't trust Chinese as far as I could kick them, which we didn't very far. So, anyway, that's things that are on my mind this morning. Everything doing alright with you? It was kinda interesting times. Some very interesting political stuff shaping up. And since you've got this illustrious political background
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Oh, yeah. What that what that means is I've been kicked down the road, kicked in the ditch, and then stomped, and they stomped the mud hole, and and then they turned around and stomped it dry.
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Yes. Illustrious.
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That encompasses all of that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, when when DJ was going through all his criminal prosecutions and all, I wanted to write him a letter and say welcome to the club. You finally you finally figured out really how this works. You've made it. You made it. And I not not to say that I'm smarter than him. I don't believe I'm as savvy as he is at this point, but I learned the hard way what it really was at the bottom of it all. What's at the bottom of it all is murder. That's what's at the bottom of it all. If they can't discredit you, they'll try that first. If that doesn't work, then they'll try to throw you in jail. If that Uh-huh. Doesn't work, then they'll kill you. Well, you haven't seen the latest,
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Hubbub. I I had not heard about it. Hold on just a second. I had not heard about it till this morning. Uh-huh. What Comey put on his Instagram site Oh. This week. Yeah. He he had shells on a beach, and they spelled out eighty six forty seven.
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Oh, okay.
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So there's this there's a statute about kill about, even voicing attempted assassination, I believe.
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Uh-huh.
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And, but, boy, that has that has, shaken the monkeys up pretty good. And I noticed, the lovely and charming Francine has joined us. Hi, Francine.
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Oh, you're good.
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I hope everything's alright with you. And, and this trip to The Middle East by Trump, there's so much political stuff going on. Brent is so important because it signifies kinda signifies the end of an age to me, of our presidents going around to the, enemies of of our our controllers. Without our controllers involved and getting five minute standing ovations, everywhere he goes is just incredible. I don't know if you've seen any of the videos of this or not. Mhmm. No. I've seen some of the other spirit. Boy, it's impressive. You know? And it's like Trump said, he's, you know, when Biden went over there, what did he do? He went up to the king and fist bumped him. And, you know, and Trump Trump was answering some reporter. He says, I shook more hands yesterday than is humanly possible.
Yeah. And he goes, you know, before they're giving them fist bumps, they want love. They want attention. They want some sincerity. They want some genuineness. You know? And, and they're getting it. Okay? And it's just phenomenal because our enemies over there are going ballistic.
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Well, that that fist bumps and stuff is, kinda odd how that started. That started in the prison system in The US. Did it? Yeah. And the reason that people fist bumped in the prisons because it was necessary for reasons of health. Yes. If you get sick in prison, the doc if there's any doctors in the prison, they're forbidden by law from helping anybody no matter like, it'd be having a heart attack and dying, and then the doctor tried to help them, they'd well, they just they'd be they'd punish him. So, not trying to be clean, people in prison try to do that because they know if they get sick, their chances are slim.
And so the and if you do get medical attention, you well, you may get it, you may not. And if you do get it, they're not they'll take their sweet time about it. Yeah. So people in prison divide up I think I've mentioned this. They divide up into, groups according to race. Yes. You folk that are Christian out there, and you've been sucked in by this biblical silly not biblical silliness. It's unbiblical. It's silly that there's only one race of man, and then the idea of saying that is that there are no others. Well, is there one race of man? Yes. There is. The race of Adam. But within the race of Adam, the Bible is prolifically clear that there are many races, many races.
And the races of man, according to the Bible, are according to who your father is. That's the way it the word race is a Latin word that means root. Mhmm. Root. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's everything right about it. My root is my father. I got more roots behind him, grandfathers and great grandfathers than you do too. And, race is not a matter of, by the way, appearance or skin color. The courts say that, but the courts got it wrong. According to the Bible, race is a matter of who your ancestors are. Yeah. Period. And you won't find in the Bible people talking a whole lot about skin color except to say you can't change. The Bible says you can't change the color of an Ethiopian skin.
You can't change the it says in the same breath, you can't change the spots on a leopard. The point being, you can't change a man. Only God can do that. God is sovereign in these matters. Race is important. When you read the Bible, you see that that shouts from every section of the Bible. God made men the way they are. He gave us different roots at different times and different places, different races within this one race of Adam. And there's only one place in the Bible I know of where it says that explicitly, and that's in the book of Acts. It talks about the race of Adam. Well, book of Acts, whoever the the fellow well, the fellow that record that was Luke, and you say, well, that may be true. It may not. Well, that's what somebody said. Now that's the truth.
Somebody in that book, and you can go read it, he actually said that. And Luke recorded it just the way he said it. There are no errors in the Bible. But the book of Acts is not a book of doctrine either. So when you read Acts, remember, you're getting the facts. You're not getting conclusions. You want conclusions, go to Romans. That's a book of doctrine, not a it's a book of doctrine. It's not a book of just raw facts and testimony. But, there is one race of Adam within that race or many races. And I find as I watch, for example, I saw a clip of DJ sitting there. Now DJ, I think, is about in the about six one,
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something like that. Something maybe a couple inches tall. You know how tall Barron is, don't you?
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How?
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Six nine.
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Who's who's that? Barron, his son. Oh, Barron. Barron. That yeah. Yeah. He's a big boy, but DJ pretty tall, but I saw him standing next to this weird beard kind of a fella, having all these that stuff on his head that like they do over there. And, that fella was about six nine. And DJ was standing next to him. I don't know how tall he was, but he he looked like some kind of a gargantuan giant of some kind. And, he was from the country of, when I was over there, Riaz or something like that. Riaz is the capital of Saudi Arabia. Yeah. He oh, maybe that's where they were then in Saudi Arabia. Yeah. That was the first stop. But the the fact of the matter is the fact of the matter, not the conclusion, just the fact. The fact is that there are different races of men out there, and, they group together in countries on land.
And then they have a different point of view, and they cultivate a different culture according to their different religion. Remember, culture is religion externalized. That's a quote Cornelius Van Till, and he's right.
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Culture Repeat that. Repeat that quote, please. Culture
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culture is religion externalized. Okay. Not just a little bit. Actually.
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No. That's excellent.
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%. Well, what what why do we call it culture? Because the reason we call it culture is because it arises from a cultist. A cult. What is religion? It is a cult. Is there anything wrong with that? No. We've made a negative word out of that too, but a cult is what people believe is worth worthy of cultivation. We in America traditionally have believed that Christianity is worthy of cultivation because we believe it is gainful and profitable. And so, the archaeologists would call that a cult. Well, that's what it is. We cultivate it. Islam in their world, to them, is worthy of cultivation because they think they'll get, something worthwhile, 70 virgins and whatever else they get. Of course. And, so the tenants of Islam, which really amount to, what did Mohammed do, and we they have records of that. What did Mohammed do? And they do exactly what he did. And his habits of life are recorded in exquisite detail, by the way. I mean, everything from how to how to participate in foreplay with 12 year old girls to how to how you conduct yourself when you make a trip to the outhouse.
That's their law. That is their law. And they read what he did, and that's what they do. It's very much like, Judaism, same way. You do what the rabbis do. You know, there are stories about young men, yeah, young men sneaking in. These are Jew Jewish fellas. Sneaking in to their rabbi's house at night and crawling under the bed silently so they can take notes about how he, how he engages in sexual foreplay with his wife. Well, to them, that's law. See? That's the madness of false religion. Seeing Christianity as people say, well, our founders were deist. Well, no. They weren't.
I mean, clearly, they weren't because a deist does not accept any written revelation from the creator of all things. D all the men that people call deist at the beginning of our country believed that god had communicated demand through writing. Some of them had a different view of the Bible than you do, but they still believe God had communicated through writing. For instance, Tom Jefferson did not believe that the miracles of Jesus Christ and the other miracles of the Bible were part of the the accurate tradition of the the accurate testimony of the Bible handed down. They had they were mistaken in that because they violated the rules of evidence. But, nonetheless, they believed, upset men such as Jefferson, that, God did communicate through writing using the Bible. He just didn't like all of it. So that means he's not a deist.
Well, these these Islamic fellows and these the Roman church, same way. What does the Roman church believe? I don't believe the Bible. That's not final. Whatever is the final arbiter of right and wrong, well, that's that's law. That's law. That's the will of the sovereign. Well, the will of the sovereign with Judaism, Islam, and and Romanism are not the Bible. I say that because even Islam venerates the Bible. Judaism venerates the Old Testament. Islam venerates even the Bible itself. Mhmm. It's not final. It is not the final word from whose decision there is no appeal.
Protestantism, for lack of a better word, does take the Bible, has traditionally take the bible taken the Bible to be the final word from whose decision there is no appeal. But I saw DJ Trump over there over there. Of course, I'm reminded looking at the way they were dressed and looking at the way he was dressed, I said there's a different culture, a different cultist.
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Cultivation of religion going on here. Go ahead, doctor. No. I'm just agreeing with you. Boy, that king of Saudi Arabia loves Trump.
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Well, that's a good thing. I'm not getting that, of course. Bible said get along with men as much as is possible. There's a limit, of course. Every every relationship among men have has its limits. The only relationship that has no limits is your relationship with the creator of heaven and earth.
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Did did you know that when he arrived, the king was at the bottom of the stairs? Did you see that? No. I didn't catch that. What's that mean? The king never goes to anybody that's coming to him. Well, then he must not think he's much of a king. The only thing I can figure out No. He thinks Trump is some is something else worthy of that. This is my impression.
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Oh, okay. Well, what whatever the case, he was trying to be nice, sounds like.
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You know, it's not like that. I think he was sending a signal because I believe people in that part of the world know that. Yeah. And when that happens as a total reversal of all custom, I think that's sending an a message to the neighbors over there.
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Yeah. Well, maybe send a message to that what's that fellow named over there in Ukraine claims he's president. He comes to the White House in his sweatpants or something and Dingleberry.
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Yeah. His military sweater. Yeah. I can't I can't he's it hadn't been in the news here a couple weeks. I've almost forgotten because I purged it. I think I purged it. Oh. Trump looked at him and said, I see you dressed up for the meeting. Yeah. Right. If you don't have any more respect for, for a head of state than that, you need to keep calling the ground all over. Amen. And here's the king of Saudi Arabia, One of the richest people on the face of the earth, and he leaves his traditional throne and goes out to meet him at the airport. And Yeah. A dingbat up there. Well, it comes in dressed in army kinda gear and then lies to him. Or he says I'm gonna do this, and then he backs out. What? Seven times? Yeah. But on this trip, Trump is about to meet with Putin evidently,
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and that's got to scare the woo woo out of them right there. Well, funny thing. See, these these Arabs over there, they're worth trillions because Americans made them wealthy. Yes. Absolutely. Not only did they give the ability and the technology and actually went over there and got the oil out of the ground, they couldn't do that. Then they then they bought we bought the darn stuff from them at decent prices. So now they're trillionaires. They haven't got anything to eat but sand. Well, they better be nice. Well, see, that's what Trump said to to old Dingellwad over there in Ukraine. He said, well, no. Trump didn't say it. Vance.
Is that his name? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. JD Vance. JD said, of course, that fellow was trying to dictate. He said, you you're not in a position to dictate dictate anything to us. We've been propping you up to the tunes of hundreds of billions for a long time, and you're gonna come over here and tell us what to do? No. No. No. No. No. You you you're not thinking straight, boy. And you don't even say thank you. You don't come in and say thank you. Well, the deal with Vance is
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everybody is looking to see who the next, head of state is that Vance is gonna go meet with. You know why?
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Why?
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Because when he met with the pope, he died the next day.
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Oh, really? Oh, really? Yes. Be darned.
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That's something that that Now let me ask you a question, Brent. This is something they, they say is the best kept secret in The Middle East. Now you've been over that part of the world, haven't you? Yep. Fairly recently, actually. Yeah. Matter of fact. Yeah. Do you do you know who the Don May are?
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Who?
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The Donmeh, d o
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n m e h. Donmeh. Some kind of an Arab head honcho or something?
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Kinda. It's a closet Jew. And that's what Ataturk remember the name Ataturk hundred years ago that went in and did the Armenian massacre and all that? Oh, yeah. Those are called Donme Jews, and they're kinda closet Jews like the old Marianna Marianna, whatever they call them. And if you look that up on the Internet and start reading about it, I was telling a friend of mine to hear about it. And, so I said, well, I'll send you something on it. And I went and got an article. And right there, they said, this is the best kept secret in The Middle East, the Don May group. And what they've done is that's why Saudi Arabia and the Israelis do somewhat get along.
And you'll see the Saudi jet over at Tel Aviv occasionally. That's because evidently when Lawrence Lawrence Lawrence went through and set these better ones up, that these people were this Don May group. It's worth looking into if you've never heard about it before. Yeah. Because there's a whole new element there that you didn't know about. Okay? How do you spell how do you spell it? D o n m e h.
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Wow. That's kinda weird. Yep. Donmeh. Well, listen. Nome, I'm reading, were a group of Sabbatean crypto Jews There you go. Yeah. In the Ottoman Empire who were forced to convert to Islam, but retained their Jewish faith and Kabbalistic beliefs in secret. The Sabbatean movement was centered mainly in Thessalonica. Of course, that's in Asia Minor. That'd be where the Turks are. It originated, during and soon after the era of Sabbatea Tezviyah in the seventeenth century Shephardic Shepatic Jewish rabbi and the Kabbalist who claimed to be the Jewish messiah. Well, I think that boy was too big shy of a load and eventually feigned conversion to Islam under threat of capital punishment from the Ottoman sultan who would have chopped his head off for a threat.
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That would have been Jacob Frank.
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Oh, yeah. I get it now. Well, the word dame means apostate Apostate. Now this is important to understand, I think. Apostate is a word from the New Testament. It's the same root Greek word as apostle, but it has an opposite meaning. You know, all words and all tongues are context dependent. They're neutral until they get into they could be negative or positive. Apostate is the negative use of the root, and the apostle is a positive root. They both mean the same thing. What they mean fundamentally is to be stand aloof, but to be stood aloof apostate according to the Bible is to have committed the unforgivable sin.
Apostasy is the unforgivable sin, and an apostate is someone who has committed that unforgivable sin. And and, of course, the Bible warns against such people because they're exceedingly dangerous. Once you know, like the devil himself, he's committed the unforgivable sin. Oh, and the demons, they have they don't care anymore, and and men who do that don't care anymore either. It's all over but to cry, and I might as well have fun while I can. That's their attitude. See? So these are dangerous people, but these are called apostate from, apparently, Judaism.
Now let me read this other definition. Can I, Roger?
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Of course.
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The term Danme is a Turkish gerund. A gerund, that's a that's a a term of, grammar that means, a a noun that can convert to a verb and vice versa. Danme Danme is a Turk Turkish gerund meaning to turn, revolve, or return, and by extension, to betray, to go back on, to convert to another religion, apostasy. It has become popular parlance to refer to religious converts in general and more specifically to the seventeenth century followers of the Jewish false messiah, Sabbatei Sabi, and their descendants who outwardly converted to Islam but retained their secretive religious practices over the next several centuries, maintaining close communal and blood ties and practicing strict indogmany.
Indogmany is a practice of marrying within a specific social group. Mhmm. While a great majority of the community's members abandoned their practices during the first quarter century, their past identity has continued to haunt them within Turkish society. And the term Danme itself remains one of a negative connotation. Wow. This is no. I didn't know about this, Roger. So Yeah. But I think it's important to remember that they've they've been You can't you can't understand the whole picture of what's going on over there unless you understand this or know something about it. Well, to add to that, Roger, I don't think you understand the whole picture without understanding that this is fundamental doctrine of Judaism no matter where they are. Yes.
This is just the way it is. They they have no connection. They're they're they're a countryless people. They have no loyalty to land as a matter of religious fervor except as the Zionism, but where whatever land they're in, they're not loyal to that land. No. They don't care. There's only one thing that attaches them. They're like, and that's money. That's they're like, and wealth. That's like their, what was that fellow's name? Cain. Yeah. Cain. Remember, Cain, murdered his brother Abel. That's first murder record, and and God, relegated him to wander wander for all of his life and his descendants to be wanderers.
Yeah. That's who they are. From country to country to country. And if you're a wanderer and you're a man without a country, you're in bad shape. You know, there was a book written. I read it. And my first time I read it, I thought it was true. The fellow goes into such incredible accurate detail about everything he says, and the name of the book was A Man Without a Country. Mhmm. Be a man without a country at that time before the back in the eighteen fifties. Be a man without a country was the most deplorable of all conditions. Listen. When the Bible says, as it says hundreds of times, and so and so was cut off. And if you do this, you'll be cut off. And the word means cut off or cut up cut off and away. It's in the New Testament and it's in the Old Testament hundreds of times. It's a euphemism, not a euphemism. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It's a con contraction. It's a contraction.
And every time you see that, unless something else is added and makes it clear, just add the words from land. You shall be cut off. Cut off from what? From land. Now sometimes it'll say cut off from your people or cut off from this or cut off from that, but just as many times, if not more, it says just cut off. And that means to be cut off from land and God's greatest curse. God's greatest curse to a man or a woman is to be cut off from land, to be a person without a country. As that book says, man man without a country. Well, I read the book, and I found out it was based on the guy was good with details, write down the dates and times and places and but it was all a a fictional it's a short story called Man Without a Country.
And what it was about was a man who was, in the days of Aaron Burr, Tom Jefferson's great political opponent was Aaron Burr. Mhmm. And he wanted to kill him. And so he he, employed the machinery of of the federal courts and government to get the guy executed. It was a dastardly thing that Jefferson did. A chief executive should not do that unless it's real. Well, this he he accused him of treason against The United States. They had his prosecutors prosecute him, and one of Jefferson's cousins, chief justice Marshall of the US Supreme Court saw to it that due process was meticulously observed, and as it turned out, he was acquitted.
But during that time, there was a lot of upheaval, of course. And, during the time of Aaron Burr, a young army officer, according to this story, got involved with Aaron Burr. Of course, everybody hated Aaron Burr, but really Aaron Burr was a patriot. Weird. That's politics. It's always been upside down like that. Yeah. Well and they used him, to be hated, and they said he was connected with him. And he went to trial, this young officer, and he was stationed at a little fort, which is now a a national park on the Ohio River between Illinois and Kentucky, down there.
And that's that was the far and wild Woolly West in those days, of course. Yes. And, he, got arrested, and they took him to trial and convicted him. And in the heat of his pain, having been a loyal man, he said, he screamed out in the courtroom, damn The United States. May I never hear the name of The United States again? And the courtroom went silent. This is a court martial, by the way, court martial. And, the judge said, well, given given your request, I've decided that's what we're gonna do. You're never gonna hear the name of The United States again. And they arranged it so that he would be transferred from United States warship to United States warship as a prisoner, but be given the status of an officer with a stateroom.
All he wants to eat, complete freedom on the ship, but he had to stay on the ship ships the rest of his life. And every ship he was on, the crew and the the the, instructions said the crew and the men on the ship, were were to be careful never to mention the words United States or United States Of America or America.
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Who is this guy again?
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I don't remember. It wasn't true. It wasn't true, Rogers. Oh, what? It was okay. Okay. Got it. Yeah. The name of the book was A Man Without a Country. I see. And, of course, the guy that wrote the book was trying to whip people up to say you gotta have a country. You which is true. God wants you to have a country, and you're cursed if you're not loyal to the land of your choice, by the way. That's biblical teaching, intense biblical teaching. Isn't it something that's never said? You know, we talk about patriotism now, and it's odd to me that the pulpits of America haven't been full of this teaching about what patriotism is according to god and according to god, not according to some, song you're saying or something or some feeling you get. No. According to god.
Well, we can sing the songs and have the good feelings, but you better get the facts straight first, and that's what god says that he has, to be cut off from land is the great curse of humanity. And there are those people like the gypsies, for example, they they profess no loyalty to any land and wander. Yes. God God that's not the blessing of God, my friends. No, sir. We had them we had them in Argentina,
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actually. Oh, wow. Lived outside of town. They'd have an encampment. I'm not sure where it was. I just heard about it. But, you know, it was where I was, and Argentina in general is called a cafe society because like Europe, they got all these sidewalk cafes. Uh-huh. And some gypsy mama would come with a couple of young kids, and they'd send them scurrying all over the people who were sitting up there drinking coffee to sell them something or beg money or whatever. The minute they got something, they'd run back to her. You know? Yeah. But, yeah, I've seen that, actually. They're without a they're without a country. Yes. Dave? Hold on. Let's let Dave inject here. Yes, sir? You got gypsies up there by you, Dave? Good morning. Call Canadians. Are they called Canadians or what?
Pardon me? Are those gypsies up there by you call Canadians or what? You know, I I remember I I remember something about, you know, in the in the history books, Hitler killed some gypsies or something, but that wasn't what I wanted to say. Isn't there a plant called a wandering Jew? Yes. There is. Yes. Oh, there's nothing. Be a fish. There used to be a fish called a Jew fish, and they had that name changed to a Goliath grouper.
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Oh, wow. Those things those things grew up around our house when I was growing up, and I spent a lot of time ripping them out because what they would those plants would they crawl on the ground to get thick, and they just keep spreading. You know? Yeah. And they tangle. Right. But they wander. They wander. Yeah. That's the name of the plant. I know what you're talking about.
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Yeah. So what was your comment, Dave? Yeah. Let's see. What were you gonna say? I'll let you in here. That hit me when he said, you know, what you what he was talking about, wandering. Yeah. It just hit me. Wandering Jew. Why did it have that name as a Jew? I don't know, but it sounds like an anti Semitic plant to me. Don't you think? Yeah. Right. Oh, man.
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It's part of their it's part of their religion. It's part of their religion to be like that. It's Yeah. Not part of their religion. It's fundamental to it. That's why it's that way. Remember, all all of human behavior again, I'm it's not Brent saying this. I'm I'm quoting people a lot smarter than me. Jonathan Edwards, which was Aaron Burr's grandfather. He he's the one Really? Yeah. Yeah. Aaron Burr's grandfather. What a family that was, the Edwards family on both sides. But Aaron was a see, Jonathan Edwards had, either nine or 10 sisters, and he was the youngest and the only boy in the family. Can you imagine what your sisters would do to a boy like that? Can you can you imagine trying to get to a bathroom?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, they had that boy by the time he was three or four years old. See, that was like having a little doll. Well, he was a great intellect. Well, Aaron Burr was his grandson. And, oh, well, somebody was gonna say something. I'll hold my comments. Who was up next? Paul. Yeah. I wanna jump grunting. He grunted in here. So he asked me. I
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wanna jump in here really quick on the wandering Jew before we get too far away from that. Before we wander too far away? Yeah. If if you wait a minute or two before you make a comment, we could be on a completely different subject. So There's no telling around here. I think probably the reason that they call the Wandering Jew the Wandering Jew is because it's a very fertile plant. It's very prolific. It's fast growing, and it's hard to kill. And, I'm thinking that, that's gotta be where some of the similarities lie.
It wanders all over. It's prolific. It it's easily easy to propagate, easy to increase the population of wandering Jews in your house, and it's hard to kill. So it so it's just maybe kinda Yeah. It'll
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you if you like it and you think it looks nice, you just let it go, and it'll cover everything. Yes.
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I agree. Yes. It'll overlay everything. It's kind of like the kudzu of the North. Like them.
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Kudzu covers more and grows faster. Do you know that that stuff can grow a foot a day, that vine?
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Wow.
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I mean and they did a big research because it covers the South. I don't know if you've been down there, Brent, and seen it, but it was an invasive species. Somebody brought it around about a hundred years ago down there on the Gulf Coast somewhere, and it spread all over the South. And, and they did a big research thing at, University of Georgia and damned if it isn't good to eat. It is. The leaves are like turn you know, like turnips.
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It is. It is. It's very good for you. It is, it is a whole food. It is very healthy. Pretty much all of the plant is useful, and it is called the vine that killed the South. Because once it starts growing over a tree, it will kill the tree by starving it from sunlight.
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It's amazing to see the what that vine right there can do. K? And that's true. The vine that killed the South. How interesting.
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It's important to note. If you're gonna eat it, don't eat the stuff by the road.
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I we've got the go ahead.
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If you're gonna eat it, don't eat the stuff by the road because you have to go back about 50 feet because they spray the stuff by the road, and you don't wanna be consuming what they spray it with. Probably doesn't it probably doesn't kill it either.
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Yeah. Also, he was gonna plant some when he gets down there. I tell him you better not. You'll you'll get hung. Who who was?
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Oh, Paul. When he comes down, he's gonna plant a little.
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No. I'm no. I'm absolutely going to, but it will be in her hermetically
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it'll
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it'll be in a hermetically sealed IBC. It will have no way for the roots to see or the seeds to escape, and there won't be any way for birds to get at it. Boy, has Rick has Paul got a change of lifestyle coming when he moves down south. You.
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Alright. You got that stuff at home. It's in the Ohio Valley. Is it? Yeah. I'm I'm in Lansing here, but, also, it's been discovered in Leamington, Ontario, Canada, and it it spreads at the rate of about of 50,000 acres a year. Doh. Yeah. But it's good grazing for cattle. Really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, there's a potential use for it. Go harvest it and go feed it to cattle. Yep. And then you get you you you wouldn't have to get, of of where they feed lots, where they feed it grain. You go give feed it kudzu and get rid of a an invasive plant at the same time. Now, Brent, there's a solution right there, man. Yeah. It's a good compost too.
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Yeah. It's good compost. It's good raw material for, biocarbon, for, doing the, the rainforest the ancient rainforest soil remediation. And, the problem with it is is if an animal eats it and then poops, it's going to distribute seeds around the field. Birds pick up the seeds and drop them, and it it's hard to keep
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control of it. You don't wanna grow wild. Ever rejuvenating asset here.
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Yeah. But you don't you don't want it to grow wild because if it gets away from you, it's too late.
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It's stuff's pretty incredible. I've been watching it my whole adult life, you know, driving from Florida to Atlanta and the traveling that I used to do is all over the darn place. And it hadn't been there. What would does it say when it was introduced to anything y'all are reading? It was introduced about a hundred a hundred and twenty years ago, something like that. Yeah. I think they introduced it to, remediate soil erosion
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or something. Uh-huh. Could've been. Could've been. Which it does very well, but it just keeps going.
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Right. Right. It's like the Ever Ready bunny. Okay. So look at the look at the subjects we've covered today. Dawn made use, which Brent didn't know anything about. I'm very proud to bring that information to you, Brent. We've talked about kudzu. We've talked about all kinds of interesting things. Right? Wandering Jews. The Wandering Jews. We've talked about them.
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The only thing we haven't talked about yet is commonlawyer.com and the things that are going on there. Maybe we could do that right now so it's not such a rush at the top of the hour. Well, that might be a good idea. Float that in front of mister Brent and see how he thinks about it. Yeah. Well, the yeah. This is Brent Allen Winter at common lawyer dot com. Thank you, Paul.
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And, you go to the website commonlawyer.com and take the law school classes, teaching the fundamental common law courses, what I want you to do is go there, email, go to the contact page, and tell us you wanna sign up for the course, the comparative law course. That's next. Comparative law, what we're we wanna teach it very soon. Comparative law isn't taught in the law schools anymore. It used to be a required course in our common law tradition because there's no way you can understand, no way you can grasp our common law tradition without comparing it to its ever present antagonist, the law of the city.
The our common law is also called the law of the land has been for a few centuries law of the land well since well, we know even before Magna Carta. That's what Magna Carta calls it. And then Magna Carta then in our constitution of The United States, our constitution is called part of that law of the land. And it can't be understand, or I should say, it is best and most easily grasped by comparing and contrasting it to its antagonist, the law of the city that governs every country in the world with the few common law countries the very few common law countries.
So the canon civil laws of Rome, the law of the city, are the antagonist of the law of land. That's what we're facing in America. That's what England is facing. It's always true ever since the settling of the city of Babylon. The every war every war that's been fought in the world has been fought because two nations two nations cannot agree on a common external standard whereby they may govern their relationship, whether it be the law of the land or the law of the city. And that's all their only that's the only possibilities there are. And every every country and every person is tending either either toward one or toward the other on the continuum between the two. And we are a common law country. We've always tended to the law of the land tradition, which is by far and away fundamentally adverse at every point to the law of the city.
We have juries in our common law countries. They don't in the rest of the world. No, sir. We have three separate and coequal branches of government in the common law in our common law country. Not in the rest of the world, government is a monolith. We have dissenting court opinions in our common law country. Not in the rest of the world. No, sir. They don't allow that. We have what we call we we focus on due process, the the way things are done Mhmm. Not the result. The result we leave up to the to the whatever the machinery of due process pumps out. We don't focus on the result and say, well, this is what the legislature demands, and we've got to do that. No. We stop and consider doing things fairly and rightly so that the truth may have an opportunity to bob forth.
From the here's another one. We are adverse to each other in our common law tradition. We fight. We go to court and fight. We fight in politics. And if we don't, our freedoms are lost. The three branches of government never stop fighting. God help us. Hope they never do. When you hear somebody say, why don't why don't they just quit fighting and do what's good for the American people? Why? Well, Well, we're a common law tradition. And if they stop fighting and decide they're gonna do what's good for the American people, they're gonna start doing things to you you don't like. Because what their idea of good for the American people is, they get the money. That's the way that works. Don't be stupid. And I use that term in this technical in this technical understanding. It's etymological understanding.
Stupid. Don't be stupid. Life's too hard. Well, you go take that go to that website, commonlawyer.com. Please email and say you wanna take that course. I've been trying to get up enough steam. I got so many things going. I've got to get up enough steam to get a blur up for it on the website, and then you can just sign up right there. But I wanna know who's interested,
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and we'll get that done. We're gonna teach that next or lord willing. We'll say I bet you get a lot of response on that, probably even more so than, than some of the other ones. And I'd remember I'd I'd wanna remind you the old saying, yard by yard, life is hard. Inch by inch, life's a inch.
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Yeah. No. That's good. And don't don't think you're gonna go in and learn the common law. I've been looking at it for decades, and I I'll never stop looking at it, and I'll never stop understanding more. Our common law is a Christian tradition. It's part of the Christian tradition. There are two volumes in our common law tradition, two volumes of law. The laws of nature, as our declaration of '76 puts it, the laws of nature unwritten, we call that our common law tradition. Our law of the land, we call it due process, those are synonyms, And then the laws of nature's god. That's the law written.
We call it the Bible. That's what those phrases of our declaration mean. Those are the two volumes. If you ever get away from anchored to those two volumes, you're on a sea of subjectivity, and you'll never find your way home, and your country will continue to spiral downward as we are now doing. We've been doing but the the conflict has always been there. People talk about admiralty law. Well, that's why we went to war was to reestablish our common law tradition. They were trying to foist admiralty on us. What's admiralty law? It's a form of the law of the city. The law of the city is a martial kind of a law. What is martial law? It's a form, another form of the law of the city, the code of Justinian, the principles of it. Martial law, admiralty law, administrative law. There's another one. Well, what is that? Well, that's another form of the law of city. That's all that is. Yep. But you just lump them all together. They have some distinctions, but it's professor once that used to say that our common law is the second greatest blessing God has given our country.
The second greatest blessing God has given our country. And I said, well, what's the first greatest blessing? He said the bible. Mhmm. And the court of last resort in cases of apparent inconsistency between those two volumes is the bible. That's the court of last resort. As you understand it, you better be looking at it. I was gonna ask day. Yeah. Why? Wise man.
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What's that, Roger? Wise man. You're a professional.
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Yeah. And he was the one I was had said before. He was a prosecutor of Nuremberg. Oh, that time. Question at Nuremberg. First question, the threshold question was according to him, and this is his testimony to me, according to him was, are we gonna prosecute the Nazis according to the law of Germany, Japan, Italy, South America? Are we gonna prosecute them according to the law of the city or the law of the land of England, The United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand? Well, they finally decided that we gotta prosecute them according to the law of the land because if we don't, they'll all be sprung.
They'll all be exonerated. They'll all plead as in every law of the city country still true today. Obedience to the government is a complete defense to any crime no matter how horrendous. Come obedience to the government. If you can prove that you were obedient to the government, then
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the law says you're not guilty. Yeah. And that is not true in our common law country at all. For the new for the new students that have never heard this before, I can't tell you how important that is, what Brent just told you. And he from the firsthand, this was not hearsay, from the firsthand of his professor who was one of the, I believe, one of the point men over there to set up Nuremberg, and they had to decide on which body of law they were going to prosecute the Germans under because I was just following orders as a legal defense under the law of the city. So when and I've never heard this anywhere else, and you probably haven't either. K? So I'll tell you what you have heard a bunch is, oh, they're gonna try them under the Nuremberg laws, but they don't even know that we're talking about common law there. It's a very important point. Go ahead, Brent.
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Thank you, Roger. And it's no accident that Eichmann pled on the scaffold, and I'm not justifying what happened. I'm just talking about what he pled. Before they sprung the trap, He said, I obeyed the laws of my flag and my country. The fault should be laid at the feet of the political leaders of Germany. I am innocent. Well, that's what you would argue if you're in the law of the city. The Japs that were tried for war crimes argued the very same thing, and they were under, by the way, the German code of which is the code of Justinian, but tweaked by Bismarck, the code of Bismarck. They were under the same code as Germany. And that does that explain maybe why they were, allies? And then you had Italy, of course, under that code and the canon canon laws of the Church of Rome are part are are the are the code of Justinian of the Roman Empire put to an ecclesiastic purpose.
The Bible doesn't figure into that. Well, like like, obedience to the government. See, in the in that system, the state is God walking on Earth. Right. Then The state substitutes itself. Whether you call it, like, in in, the in the Roman system, well, the pope is I'm I'm, in place of Jesus Christ. I'm vicar. I have all authority. Well, that's antichrist. That's the very definition of the Greek word, anti Christophs. Well, that's the way JPAN did it that way, but they didn't claim Christianity. And they just said this guy is the supreme god of all the earth. They didn't say that in Germany because German Germany had Christian sensibilities. So they just said, well, the state is God were walking on earth. That was Hegel. You You know, people in the patriot community, and I know people listening to me here, venerate the the Nazi movement and say, oh, they were right, and why did we go to war against them? And, well, they were right about a lot of things. They were right to be against the Bolsheviks, and they understood who the Bolsheviks were. Yeah. Yeah. That's all right. And they, and America didn't seem to care about that, and America were friends with the wrong people. I get it. But there's one thing God won't tolerate, friends, and he won't see to it that a country that does this is wiped slick.
He won't tolerate government saying we're being antichrist saying we're we have all authority from God on earth, and there is no appeal from Adolf Hitler. And we're gonna swear an oath to him and not to the law of God as we do in America. We swear an oath to the law of God. Our common law tradition as we have seen to express it in our constitution of The United States. We swear to be loyal to that above all things. People have said to me, and I've been in debates about about this, said the Christian folk, good minded folk really say, well, the constitution of The United States asserts itself above the Bible.
Well, that's not true. But why they believe it? Because they go to the supremacy clause of article six and say, well, it says here it's the supreme law of the land, the supreme law of the land. Well, the supreme law of the land is not the Bible. That's why it's called law of the land. No, no. It's different from the Bible. It is the supreme way, the supreme process whereby we function, we limit our general government in Washington DC. That's what that means. And we do. We limit it by that. And is that biblical? You gotta make a decision. The question of the debate that I was at was, is our constitution of The United States fundamentally biblical?
And the clear answer is, yes. It is. It is fundamentally biblical. And if there's any place we ever discover that it's not biblical, we have a we have a provision of our constitution that allows us to change it. That's proof that the people that put it in place did not believe that it was, inerrant or something. It's not. I see things in it even now that I say, well, I think I'd a word of that a little bit different in hindsight. But nonetheless, the fundamental tenets I like to say substantially, biblically, yes. It is. It is the laws of nature unwritten and our observations we put down. But coming back to the point we're teaching these classes, and we want you to sign up. Also, all the other classes we have are there. You they're in the can, audio and visual. You can access them, and you can listen to them, and you can take the courses.
We like to provide, of course, if you finish the course, a certificate of completion. The our common law tradition is fading as it always always is in danger of doing in all the common law countries. That America is here because it was fading in England. I hope they got it back. We tried to reestablish it here, in a in a more intense way, and we have. We have. Now the evil empire and the use that it's there ever doing all they can to destroy it, and it's happening happening in the law schools. The the Bellwether Law School in America for a long time has been Harvard. Harvard, in the year 02/2006 did away with its fundamental common law courses, not required anymore. That was at the behest of a woman who did not have a religious point of view like me and didn't understand her sexuality very well. That's putting it mildly. And she now sits on the Supreme Court of the United States. She's the one that spearheaded getting getting rid of the fundamental common law common law subjects. Is is that any accident? As I said before, don't miss this, friends.
I hope it grabs you more than you grab it. Roger, I'll finish with this sentence. Our common law tradition is, not a list of laws, not a list of laws. It's a way of living life, way, w a y, of living life. And it is the nexus that puts the the inerrant truth of the Bible, the statutes, commandments, and judgments to the to the rubber of it the rubber of it to the road. That's our common law tradition. Roger, go ahead.
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I think you're talking about Sotomayor, and the rumor is that she is going senile, and that may be Trump's first appointment this time around. Paul, I'm gonna go ahead and, we'll pick we'll pick it up here and let Paul tell the other folks. Bye bye.
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Dao. Yep. Thank you. Brent's trying to get a little whistling going on. That's pretty good whistler right there, isn't it? Oh, that guy is good. I need to get back at it. I can tell. If you don't whistle,
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the the muscles, get laxed and you can't do it as well.
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Atrophy. Yeah. A couple of questions I wanted to double back if we could. One of the things I wanted to ask about was due process. Now we've heard a lot of hubbub and rhubarb lately about this Garcia guy that is a El Salvadorian that they, flew back to El Salvador, and the Democrats are raising all kinds of heck from it. You know? And, well, what about due process? Is an El Salvadorian or a member of any, a member of any other country, group? They don't have access to due process under our constitution, do they? I I see. Come and murder somebody, and it's capital crime, and I would imagine they're, exposed to due process there. But just on all the other stuff in general with this situation, he's not qualified for due process.
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Well I don't think. I would argue he is. Are you no. No. I I have a position. I say he is. I'll tell you why I do. I understand most people and a lot of lawyers say otherwise. I I go with justice Joseph story. I think he's right on that point. Anywhere the United States government acts, whether within the country or without, our common law applies. Okay. And there give that that's my because the Bible says, for example, it's alright. It's con it's consonant with the Bible. The Bible says honor all men. Honor all men. There are no provisals there. No exceptions. No no, qualifications.
It just says honor all men. Right. The drugs, the drug addicts, the people that don't look like you, don't smell like you, don't act like you. If they're men, treat them with dignity. You may have to kill them, but don't do it in a dishonorable way. Give them due due process. Okay. That that's my positions. But the question, Roger, is what due process is owed to a man in that status? He is he is a That's my question. That's my question. He's an illegal alien. Should we give him due process? Well, whatever that is. But if he's illegal, listen. When a police officer stops you on the road and you're in your vehicle and he walks up to your car, he may have already made a decision about guilt or innocence from his point of view.
Matter of fact, a lot of times they do. That's their job. If that decision is not final, you can go to court, and then if you don't like that, you can appeal, etcetera. And then all through it, you have the right to remain silent. All these due process right to trial by jury. The jury has to be impaneled according to certain processes. There's more there than you could even write down about what due process is. Matter of fact, you can't rightfully define due process, in a sense or two. That ain't gonna happen because due process, like our that that is our common law tradition, due process. It doesn't include due process. That's what it is. And so due process does not make itself apparently available. Available, apparently obvious until the need arises for it and you look at the situation and you say, wait a minute. What's fair here? Well, we know right to trial by jury is fair, right to remain silent, right to freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms, all these ways we go about doing things. But in this case, is there anything else we need to do? Take that illegal alien.
He's a illegal alien. What is the fair process, whatever else they know about him, the fair process to treat him with dignity? That's the real question there. Mhmm. And that is not something that is written down. That's something that catches you more than you catch it. Well, let me give you the fill in the colors here for you. He had been through two judicial,
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settings and had been found guilty both and deportable. And, then his last ditch defense was that he was being, the, rival gang in El Salvador, because he's El Salvadorian, was, gonna try and kill him. And they let him stay in the country on that, but yet it turns out that gang doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. So do Well, that now there's another thing. I remember thirty years ago when I first got into this, there was a saying, of course, the the odds were weighed a little bit differently back then. The bad guys were firmly in control. They're sketchily in control now, I think.
But, there's a saying that says make a tyrant act like a tyrant. You've heard that before? Well, that's what our enemies are doing to Trump right now. Yeah. They just reversed it.
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Oh, I get it. Well, you know, the question there, give given the facts you've mentioned, the question there is, he's gotten some due process. How much more does is he does the law entitle him to? And that's an important question in our common law tradition. But but he's been a, a judge guilty. Was due process followed? Did he have an opportunity to be heard? Well, I assume he did. I don't know. But they'll they'll review that case, and they'll say, we believe this is a fair fight. You see, it call all comes down to what is a fair fight. Why? Mhmm. Well, because the Bible says, and we learn from experience, that people are fundamentally liars.
They'll do they'll say anything. All of us will say what benefit we're prone to say what benefits us best. And even if we tell the truth, we might give it just a little bit of bias or spin to make it look best for us. Anybody that's been to a common law trial and doesn't admit that has their heads in the sand. That that's what that's what being human is all about. You're you're more prone to make yourself look a little better than a little worse. Well, because of that, we, of course, have the oath. We have the jury to weigh the evidence to decide is is somebody biased, or are they telling the truth at all, or were did they even see what happened? Well, the those all those questions come up at the trial level, whether by jury or otherwise.
And did he have the process? Is he entitled if he's accused of a crime? Well, you made the point a while ago, Roger. Yes. He is. Didn't you make that point? He's accused of a crime. Well, yeah, he gets trial by jury. Whatever. We're trying him. And is he entitled to a common law court, or does he have to go to a martial law court? Well, it depends on whether he's an enemy combatant. I don't think he looks like one. Or have we declared He's a member of MS thirteen, and they're they're declared a terrorist group. Doesn't that make him one of those? Well, does the constitution say anything about the ability to declare somebody the member of a terrorist group and that becomes our enemy? No. No. Of course not. We don't have that.
That's all just hooey from my perspective. You wanna declare war on somebody, declare war on a gang, declare war on a country? Congress has the power to do that according to constitution. Okay. Now we got an enemy, and we know who he is. We can do those things. And then you can subject, of course even if you do that. Is he a military man, or is he nonmilitary man? You know, the Japanese imprisoned a lot of people. They had a whole prison camps in The Philippines Yeah. Of American Christian missionaries Yes. They did. That were not military.
But they didn't care. You know, funny thing about them coming back to the common law tradition. Now coming back to the Christian sensibilities, the average German soldier during World War two wanted to do his bit and get home to his family. That's what he wanted to do, just like Americans. The average Jap soldier, what he wanted to do was die in battle. That's it. That's really the grand difference. He was under he was under a religion that was even more ugly and tense. There were there were Christian sensibilities in Germany, and the German prison or the German military saved my father in law's life.
The the he would have been beaten to death. Matter of fact, he was being beaten to death when they pulled the Germans off of it. There were Christian sensibilities and chivalry in Germany because of the Christian religion. There were none in Japan. None. They wanted to die, and they wanted to kill, and that's it. That's the way they looked at military life, and the whole nation had gone militaristic. Well, Germany had gone pretty far that way, too far, of course. They did things, of course. They spun out of control. That always happens. Listen. If there isn't an outside power
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Mhmm.
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To which men are responsible outside of mankind Mhmm. Then there will be no limit to the behaviors of men. None. That if we had that in our heads, that make us wanna say, I I think I better read the Bible. I think I better go talk to some folk that have that point of view. Maybe I ought to go to church, or maybe I ought to just get on my knees and pray, or maybe I ought to acknowledge God. Something to acknowledge that the maker of heaven and earth is outside. He is objective to this land. He's up he's up in the skies. Our father, who art where? In heaven.
Up in the skies. Hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come. Come. Well, that means it's gotta come from him to us down here on land. On earth, thy will be done, thy law. Come. Well, that means it's gotta come from up there in the skies down here to land as it is in the skies. This is the thing fundamental. Again, our common law tradition acknowledges that. The law of the city does not acknowledge that, And it may even have a Christian label. There are plenty of folk that claim to be Christian. They don't look at the world that way. They look at the world, like I was saying a while ago, there are people in the patriot community that, and I get it. I I'm trying to find you know the truth, Roger.
The truth is most always between two extremes someplace. Mhmm. It's never it's never the extreme. But when you go to war, you go to the extremes and That's an that's an extreme. That's extreme. And there's a time for that. No question. The Bible not only gives tells us there's a time for it, tells us how to recognize it, and also tells us when to take up arms. But outside of that, let's understand what's going on, before we're driven to the extremes. And that may happen and we must act accordingly. But it's either at that point, it's either get out, lead follow or get out of the way as they say. And if you don't if you don't get into the fight, you're gonna get caught in the crossfire and killed. You gotta choose sides at that point.
That's fact. There is no that the and even in Christianity, neutrality, there is no neutrality. Neutrality is a myth among mankind. It's a utopian idea that doesn't exist and has never existed. Jesus Christ said you're either for me or you're again me. Now I know some of you out there saying, well Brent, you're making it sound like, patriotism is Christian. Love of country. Yeah. I am saying that, but it depends upon what country God gave you. What land did he give you? The land the Lord your God has given you. I'm all for Americans living here on this land and enjoying the benefits thereof.
They owe a duty by law to this land and it is a duty of undivided loyalty. You don't like it? Go find another land to be loyal to. But if you're going to be here and you're going to claim to be an American, then you need to, yes, the law demands, God demands that you're loyal to this land, But you choose. You can choose. But don't tell me you can choose two lands to be loyal to. That's not possible. That's utterly impossible. Loyalty is never divided. And if it is divided, that's a misnomer. Roger, you're gonna say something. No. I'm just grunting along here with you,
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and and following the bouncing ball
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as it were.
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But I did wanna open up the phone. So I wanna see if anybody in the audience has got anything that they've we've gone covered a lot of ground today, some some very important. Yeah. And I just wondered if there's any comments or questions from this, very knowledgeable group assembled here. So so star six is the ticket, and, come on forward. We'd love to hear from you. Boy, Brent, that's a that's you know what I like in this too? You'll you'll appreciate it. Dropping a rock down a never ending well.
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I used to do that. I did. I did. Right here. Oil field. Oil field. Oh, yeah. Those guys. Yeah. Case in hole. Oh.
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I also wanted to tell you. Yes, ma'am. You you may. But stand right there, Sherry. I wanna compliment Brent on the not maybe some of his doings. The fact that you've still got a living mother and father. Your dad's 98, your mom's 96, something like that? No. It's none of my doing. Just they're alive in spite of me.
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Okay, I see. No question about that. Yeah.
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Does your dad drink coffee?
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Never. Really? No. My what's that? Your mom? No. My my father wouldn't allow it in the house. And mom would make something hot, and so she got to drinking tea, hot tea, and then hot water. And mom never liked things sweet. She he liked everything sour. She would never drink drink sweet tea, hot or cold, and still doesn't, and I don't either. I don't like sweetened things and syrupy things just because of her. But, no, dad would, dad grew up with all with, oh, you know, the tobacco was always around and and, coffee. And and he went off the war when he was 17. And, he always said that you can't get anything done with a coffee cup in your hand.
Not possible. And then not only that, if you got coffee around, you always got a mess. Well, that's true too. He grew up with it. Don't get me wrong. Uh-huh. Yeah. No. Well, that's very interesting. I didn't grow up with it in the house at all. Uh-huh. And didn't, and I my granddad on my mother's side introduced me to it because when one of us would go with dad one day and to work in the field, and my other brother would go with my granddad, and we'd switch off. You've heard me say that was the Kentucky side of the family, mom's side. Mhmm. They did everything different. That's a whole different culture too, you see. Just across the river, you cross the Ohio River, everything when I was growing up, everything changed. There were two different cultures there. Very different. Isn't that interesting?
Yeah. Very different. And just but I and mom's family, everybody had hunting dogs, hound dogs, tree and tree and hounds. In dad's family, everybody had sheep dogs. There's a different culture there. I got I got the benefit of learning both of them, but my granddad, he'd drink coffee, and he when I little, he'd always let me have a sip. Here, you wanna have a sip? You know? I tasted it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But dad never did, never drank. He smoked and and when and yet drink when he was younger. You know? But he Yeah. Went up weed. I had a long answer to a short question. Sorry, Rob. I I was just curious about it. Sherry, what you got, dear?
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Speak right into the phone. You sounded a bit faint.
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Yeah. I apologize. I'm either really muffled or faint or quite loud. So
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Okay. Would you question is Right.
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About the land. Okay. Yes, we are to defend the country, but what what is the country made of but the land that Yahua gave us to personally defend, which is where he has put us in each specific place. So,
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if he puts you to a personal
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personal obligation
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as to where you're at in the land, so to speak. Well, I tell people that's a good point. I tell people, if you're if you're alive, you're on the land, you've got some little patch of ground or partial real estate or a house you rent or you're living under a bridge, you got land to take care of and defend. God has allowed you to be there. He is the allodial landlord. And to defend your patch, your parcel, your 40 acres, whatever you got, your house, your wherever you're rented, you have jurisdiction. To defend that is to contribute to the defense of the entire land. To defend your county, your state, to be subject to your to your, sheriff if he calls you as a militiamen.
You're defending the peace of your county. But it all comes down to finally internationally, the borders or the borders of The United States. This was the system. This was the system. This was our common law tradition as it came out of old England. And in Old England, you, the taxes were in kind, and they were according to how much land you control, how much land you lived on. Could have been five acres. Could have been 5,000. But the defense the defense and the contribution that you make because of the land you enjoy, that the Lord your God has given you, your contribution defended the whole land.
And the king himself had a responsibility to defend the whole land. And in defense of the whole land, he defends your little he helps defend your little parcel. And by defending your little parcel, you defend the whole land. Mhmm. Right. And that's a short statement of the history of England and The United States. And you give him the ability to help control the whole land by your contributions or your underlings contributions.
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Oh, yeah. And, Sherry, if you wanna see the origin of this, go to Blacks and go to Domesday Book. It's spelled d o m e s. We pronounce it Domesday. It's Domesday in spelling. But that gives you the whole thing from William the Conquer, how he laid out all of England, and brought it under his control. And from my understanding, it may have been you that brought this up one day years ago, Brent, will say you were held your land directly, and you were supposed to provide knights
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in fighting condition, armor and swords. Armored horses and trained. Yeah. That's how many knights depending upon how much land you had for forty days a year. It was called the knights fee. Then in the sixteen hundreds, that was converted to a money contribution instead, And that's how that got started. But here in America, the fundamental reality is still the same in this biblical. God has given us land. Everything we have relates to the land the Lord our God has given us, every responsibility. And if it doesn't relate and support our defense of and care of God's land, it's not part of Christianity. The covenant of God as the old timers called it, which is a trust settlement.
The entrusted property is land. God's relationship with the individual is defined only through his trust settlement of land. And without understanding that simple relationship with the trust settlement of land that God has given nations and and in our country, states and counties and private property, All of that is through the trust settlement of God. We don't own this. No. God owns it. God's the allodial landlord. He owes nobody nothing. We owe him. We take care of it because of him. And if we lose that idea, I've said here before, listen to the hymnology, our patriotic hymnology.
What was it? Back through the World War two and up through the sixties and seventies, my country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Remember that song? Yes. Of course. The land. But the the the the the patriotic so called hymnology now is fundamentally silliness. Very popular. People love it. Makes you feel good, but it's not talking about the land. Not that at all. And we've disconnected. Remember at the beginning, I said to be cut off in the Bible is to be cut off from land. That's the greatest blessing God has given mankind. And we are not the most important thing here. We are here. God put us here to take care of his land and his real estate. Yeah. Yeah. That's our grandpa Adam and Eve were put here, given a partial of land called the Walled Garden Of Eden and put in it and told to cultivate it and protect it from evil. They didn't.
But you read the history of the Bible from cover to cover and lid to lid. That's the history of the even the great gospel of God came. Jesus Christ came, paid the penalty for our law breaking to establish a people that would have the gumption and the the enduring motivation to take care of his land where he has put us. That's the theme of the bible. There is not a larger theme in the bible. That is the theme of the Bible. The people that came from the old country here, the Puritans and the Presbyterians initially, they understood that and believed it. And they call themselves the covenant people of God, the true Israel, The true Israel. That's exactly what the bible says.
You are the true Israel. And they came here because of the land. They established the land. There's nothing more important to God than his land. Isn't it something, Roger, when you consider even the Old Testament law? The Sabbath principle applied to three things. God applied it to himself. He is important. He applied it to his land. He's that's important to him, and he applied it to those sent to take care of his land, whatever partial they're allotted. The Sabbath principle. Seven years, you let the land lay fallow. Seven days, a man is to rest every seven days. Seven times seven seven times seven, the seven times seven years, the year of Jubilee, when all the land reverts back, has been mortgaged back to its owner. Land. Land. Land. Land. Land. Read the Bible, and you can see if you're watching. Everything relates back to what God wants for his land. Even marriage, when I took the law exam, what we had to learn, what's the fundamental reason for marriage?
Well, the answer is children. Why? Because God said that initially to our grandma and grandpa Eve, I want you to be fruitful. I want you to have a lot of babies and scatter over the land. Mhmm. Why well, that goes to that point. Why do we have the action called false imprisonment? Because you can't scatter when you're falsely imprisoned. Why aren't there any prisons in our common law tradition? Why we why why fundamentally did the our common law never allow those until very recently? Well, it doesn't allow now, but we've done it. That's the law of this. Dungeons and prisons are part of the law of the city, not not the law of the land. But we we don't have those because it mitigates against this trust settlement of God that God swore to our forebears.
That's why the Puritans came here. That's why the pilgrims came here. They were be being hampered in the old country. They wanted freedom to plow the land, cultivate it, take care of it. And you don't take care of land according to the Bible, and we can see it in reality. You don't take care of land by leaving it alone. No. You let it go to pot. God doesn't want that. He tells us exactly how to take care of it, how to take care of the land he's given us. Well, thank you for the question. Appreciate it.
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Anybody else have anything for Brent or myself?
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Roger.
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Larry does. I I would have known that you would have, Larry. Morning.
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Yeah. Good morning. I just wanna know what Brent thinks about property taxes. There's a big push here in Florida, and DeSantis is really pushing his agenda. He wants to completely eliminate property taxes. He does not believe that it's right, and it's un American that you should have to pay what he calls a rental fee to the government, every year just for the privilege of staying on your land and in your home. And I was wondering if, I hope I hope he's successful, by the way. But the the local state legislature, there's a lot of liberals that are really opposing him on this thing. Uh-huh. And, it's gonna take a constitutional
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what's that? I was I wanna ask you a question when you're finished. I'm sorry. Go ahead and finish.
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Yeah. So he said it's gonna take a constitutional amendment, to, you know, to change this because taxes are collected at the county level. And I was wondering what what Grant thought about property tax, where it originated because Grant I don't know if you know this, but Roger teaches us that, we all believe that property taxes originated with the 1933 bankruptcy. We there's a video out. I don't know if you've ever heard of it, by Eugene Schroeder trading with the enemy. Uh-huh. And he, it seems to be his belief that the, the 1933 bankruptcy caused the seizure of all mortgages and and property in The United States.
And I'm wondering if if you agree with that, or if you have other thoughts as far as, where property taxes originated. And is it even right that a state should tax someone to stay on their property because they'll forcibly remove you if you don't pay that that, income tax or the the property tax every year?
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Well, number one, property tax is not a subject for the federal government at all. Nope. They have no jurisdiction over any of that. Land is a local question according to the state and then down the records of Kepp County. Matter of fact, if a lawyer goes from one state to another and tries to file a deed on land, they'll get him. The the the, powers that be in that state will get him and say you can't practice law here. There's a local matter. We we we're real sensitive about the locality of of land. So it's not a a there is no property tax on the federal level, never has been because it's a state question of sovereignty of the states.
The states have that power. The federal government has no I was in a debate. When I ran for congress, I was on public television at a big university town. They broadcast, and my opponent got at the end. He said, you've never paid property taxes. What are you running for congress for? And I said, I've paid prop paid property taxes to the government. You you don't know about it because I've paid federal property taxes. And he said, there's no such thing as federal property taxes. I said, well, you're not in the business I'm in. Now there is there are always little exceptions here and there that may not may not be lawful, but I was in the mining business at that time. See? And so there was things that you paid, of course, your own federal land. And I didn't tell him that, but I just let him go on and blow the way he was doing. But I was confident about what I said. I think it came across good. But, property taxes are a matter of state sovereignty of the states.
Now it all started oh, back one more point. Now and we've Roger and I have, we've talked about this, maybe not a lot, but if somebody could show me that the government of the United States is in bankruptcy, I'd I'd accept it. But I have no evidence that happened. None. Not even a sliver. And if you can come up with a sliver, let me know. You know, somebody's saying something doesn't make it true. And the the second reason why it can't be true, as a matter of law, it can't be true, is because the only bankruptcy court so our constitution allows are federal bankruptcy courts. The states have no jurisdiction for bankruptcy, period, at all. Their our constitution forbids that.
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Bankruptcy is oh, go ahead. Roger, you're gonna say something. Well, I was gonna say that you and they did it differently here, and I understand what you're saying. It's difficult to go in and find it. Couple of ways that I look at it. But one thing is they did it in the bond market, which is international debiting. It's it's not having anything to do with the states. And the other way that I verified that there was one is the system of money changed. That's the day Roosevelt took all the gold. Free people use real money and can own things. It changed to paper unbeknownst to us. We're the we're the collateral for, and we can use to discharge debts. We can't pay debts. We can only discharge them with another debt, and we can't own things. We can have possession of it, but we don't own it as an evidence of the tie certificate of title of your car. The fact that if you don't pay your property taxes, which this stimulated this discussion here from Larry, even though your house is paid for, they can sell it on the courthouse steps.
But those are my evidences of it, and big things change there. And that's, what I teach to these people. Nobody's ever said it was wrong. I can tell you this. Old Tom Schram, my old buddy, used to be with us. He was headed IRS is after him. And so what he did was he went into bankruptcy court and said, Who's the real party of interest of this? And he had them totally stuck there. And then his wife wanted a divorce, and when she divorced, she had to come out of bankruptcy, and they jumped all over him. But, yeah. Now the question I wanted to ask Larry is property taxes are not like income tax.
Property taxes are voted on by you, the local people in that area. And it's on a vote, and they call them referendums, and they float bond issues. And the bond issues are things like the schools, the fire department, the local police, etcetera. So if the property tax goes away, Larry, who's gonna pay for all that? I have a question. Well, I think Hold on. Hold on. We got a question answered hanging in the air here, Sherry. Hold on. If the if the if they don't have property tax, how are those things gonna function? Who pays for them? Etcetera, etcetera.
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Yeah. I think they were going there's a couple of proposals, to raise the state consumer tax, you know, on items a little bit. And, there's there's a lot of, these
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guys that analyze all this stuff. You mean like sales tax? You say you say consumer tax. Is that like a sales tax? Well, the sales tax. Yeah. The on consumer goods. Tax the sales tax isn't on the, the the unit evidently. It's on the person who has the license. They just pass it on to you. So who who's gonna pay that? All the businesses?
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Well, what what they're proposing is to raise the sales tax. That way, that would cover, you know, the budget, the state budget. And to and what DeSantis wants to do is he wants to eliminate the property taxes and, for the reasons that I gave before. And Right. Because we're such a huge tourist state, it would be the tourists that would be paying They're carrying for that budget for that state budget. They're they're carrying a lot of the load, and Florida's unique,
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in that respect for sure. And that's why they don't have a state income tax in Florida is the tourists carry the load already. So you wanna heap some more on them,
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Yeah. I guess that's the plan.
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Well, I'd like to see that I'd like to see that see that happen, get rid of property tax. But I take it that bankruptcy fundamentally is protection
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from, keeping your promise. That's That's what bankruptcy is. Yeah. Well, you know, that's part of the reason, I think, Brent, that Roosevelt took the gold. And you remember the other thing they did
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was they outlawed the gold settlement clause in all contracts. Yeah. I'm weird, but that all that is stealing. That's not bankruptcy, for sure. I'm just saying evidence of. You know? They stole they stole the money. They just blew it for their more powerful. There was no legal,
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basis for what they did. Yeah. They stole it. That's all I know. Well, I I don't disagree with you that it's fraud. I'm just saying that it set off this sequence of events and set up our our world as we've known it. You know, I tell the listeners here, that that, you know, the Israelites were in Babylonian captivity
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which means that's a expression of joy, the year of Jubilee in the Hebrew text. All that's saying is that all the contracts you had for debt are ended, period. You have protection, absolute protection. You don't have to pay those debts. Well, that's what bankruptcy is. It's requesting the government by its power and force to protect you from debt collectors. That's what that is. And you've made promises to people if you have. It's called contract. Debt arises out of contract. You're at you show me a contract. I'll show you a debt. Show me a debt. I'll show you a contract. But there here's the second reason why I don't ex go along in that vein about The United States being bankrupt because The United States is sovereign.
A sovereign doesn't go bankrupt. It's not legally possible. As a matter of law, it's not possible. And also as a matter of law, it's not possible that the United States government enter into a bankruptcy court that is its creature. Its creature. And it it's the one under the constitution says that it establishes the Supreme Court of the United States. And then the constitution says we established the Congress like we established the Supreme Court, our constitution does. And then it says to Congress, you can establish other courts. And bankruptcy courts is one of them you can establish, and it's done that. Mhmm. All that is a is a court that says, we don't we can cut through promises and obligation to contract like hot butter, and we're gonna do it if we think it's the thing to do to relieve somebody of the onerous burden of debt. And and to aggrandize and enrich ourselves, which is exactly what they're doing. Yeah. Okay. What you're talking about here, Brent, is the difference you're discussing
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is you're coming from a totally common law background saying this, this, didn't do this. They're coming from a total law. The city is we're gonna take over the world, and this is how we're gonna do it. It doesn't matter as long as we can justify it and have what they call plausible deniability.
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Well, it just comes down to what you said years ago. What is the law of the city? It's where the the the most powerful party kicks your butt and takes your stuff. Takes your stuff. That's it. It's not bankruptcy. It's just I'm kicking your butt and taking your stuff. I think we should look at it that way. But it was a mechanism for them to achieve that that they couldn't have probably done otherwise. Well, they're not saying bankruptcy. No. They're they're well Why are we saying it? That's why I'm saying it's I think it's mythology, but that's Okay. Alright. You see my point. But if you I do. You're but here's the deal, Roger. They're getting the result they want. They don't care how they get it. And what it comes down to in the end, they'll make all the arguments and talk, but they're not talking bankruptcy. They're not mentioning that. They're not saying listen. If you're $10,000,000,000,000 in debt, it'd be easy to say, but they don't say it.
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And we're trillions of dollars in debt. No. They say 30 probably 38 this week. Yeah. Whether it's a trillion or a million trillion But but it's but it's fraud. It's all based on all these layers of fraud. So, really, it's nonexistent.
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So it's not a debt at all, and that's why I say It's fraud. Okay. If there if there's no debt, if that's fraud, then there's no bankruptcy either. You gotta have debt to have bankruptcy. And that's what allows us when we go through this process
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is the really, one of the most important things we do, although it's not the whole the whole picture by any means, is pull yourself out from that debt. And that attachment, they can't attach that to you through IRS anymore. And that is the big kahuna here. And so just very interesting, but I'm kinda sorry. I never thought I would say I was sorry to see the potential of the IRS going away, Brent. It appears that they might be. And over all these years, as much as I detest them and have crossed swords and done battle with them Yeah. I I they've been my best recruiters.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Roger. I'd like to see what
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No, man. Yes, Larry. I've been waiting. Oh, yeah. Hold on. I have Alright. Hold on.
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Okay. Couple of gals. Larry was first by a by a nanosecond.
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I'll get to both of you. First ten minutes ago. And I would I would like, Brent to speak to the difference in the words forgiveness and discharge because one is from the scripture, and one is from man's law. And I would say discharge has to do with a bankruptcy where man forgives you.
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No. Those are no. No. No. Those are just synonyms. Those are just synonyms. They mean pretty much the same thing. They get the same result. The word forgive in the Bible, it's an English word. There's not a more obscure word in the in the English Bible than forgive. If you try to trace down the etymology of the English word, it just leads you everywhere and becomes mush. And you have to ask yourself, well, if we take it by the letters, what does it mean? What does it what does forgiveness mean? Well, the word forgive is not the word god wrote the bible with.
Are there words in the bible we use to translate forget? Yes. And one's a Greek word in the New Testament, and then there's a Hebrew word in the Old Testament. Oh, what does it mean? It means that you take away the legal the legal, basis of what you could do to somebody. Forgiveness means you take away the legal basis of what you can do to somebody. For instance, you are a sinner. If you sin, you have an imperfection. The Bible says you're worthy of death. In the day you sin, you're dead. The Bible begins by saying that. Any inadvertent or knowing transgress of the will of the sovereign law, the penalty is terminal death.
God sent Jesus Christ to pay that penalty forensically, not not just to say, well, we say we did. We're gonna say it's true one and eight. No. It's true. The penalty for your sin has been paid for. Therefore, god has taken away the legal base god himself took away the legal basis for for making you suffer the eternal penalty of death eternally. He took that away. What is it? It's torment in hell too. He took all that away. He didn't just say, well, I'm taking it away. No. No. No. He made it all legal. He paid for it. That's forgiveness.
Yeah. Now when you're talking about discharge, man does not have the ability to do what I what I described or what the Bible describes about taking away the penalty of death. I do not have that power. No man does. Jesus Christ said, who has power to forgive sins? You he they the Pharisees said to him, you don't have the power to forgive sins. That's not a quote, but that's what they were saying. And he said, I I don't have the power. No. He said no man has the power to forgive sins. If you're saying that I have the power to forgive sins, you're calling me god because only god has the power to forgive sins. The Roman priest does not have the power to absolve your sins as he claims to. He claims he has that authority given to him from Jesus Christ through the pope of Rome. That's a damnable lie from hell.
No. Only God has that power in Jesus Christ is God reduced to the span of a man. He is a member of the godhead. He does have power to not to to take away the reason for any penalty you may have for your law breaking forensically. Man does not have that. So we say in bankruptcy, for instance, discharge. Discharge. So there is a difference that way, but there's synonyms otherwise. If you're forgiven of your sins, if God forgives you, does he discharge the penalty? Yes. But forgiveness, we use that word traditionally in Christianity in a very powerful way to really apply on to God. You know, the Bible says, for instance, forgive us our sins. This is called the Lord's Prayer. In the same way, we forgive others of their trespasses against against us.
Well, it's used there to make the point that we're not to take out vengeance. Vengeance. That's the point there. God has the power of righteous vengeance, and his vengeance, by the way, is utterly terminal. He hurls. Jesus Christ has given authority to hurl men into hell to burn forever.
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That's what the Bible says. Candidates. I got candidates.
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You got what? Candidates for him. Oh, candidate. Yeah. That's not my
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we can make suggestions maybe, but not patients maybe, but we don't have the authority to decide who and to do it ourselves. Yeah. And, Sherry, I wanted to inject something here that's pretty important if you don't know about this. There are numerous different types of bankruptcy. This is another one of those whitewashed words where you've got either reorganization, personal, or corporate. You've got total liquidation, corporate or or or Alex Jones has been operating under bankruptcy since they got those billion dollar judgments against him. That's where he went and hid. You know? That's about he's about to have faced that too, but his, opponents here have been doing all kinds of, illegal and ugly things. So it's gonna be interesting, but there are different types of that. And, I just wanted to make that clear to people.
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Yeah. And that's true, Roger. But at bottom at bottom, bankruptcy is fundamentally, in all those different types,
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protection against your creditors. Yes. Government doing away with the obligation of contract. Go ahead. And, well, if you if it's total liquidation, you go in like they're gonna do with with Jones, I think. And maybe if it falls their way, they'll go in and grab all that that's been sitting there that didn't even worth a million dollars. But they're over there to pay, and they'll sell it or or whatever for whatever they can get on this fictitious, judgment. But, that that's the way it operates. And, if so, then the rest of that is just, you get to write it off on your taxes if you're at the back end of the line or you didn't get what you were owed, I think. Right, Brent?
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Yeah. Pretty much. I get what you're saying.
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Yep. So now hold on a minute. Okay. I've gotta be specific. Follow-up. Well, I just want to quickly,
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the discharge Yeah. Go go ahead. If
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if is that discharge is man's way of coming as close as they can to relieving a responsibility upon man without being God. So, isn't discharge evidence of bankruptcy? And forgiveness is being bankrupt within your own self that you ask the father
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to forgive you. Somebody's given you a get out of jail card with forgiveness.
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Correct. And so then it comes back to who do you seek remedy from? And I remember the words that Brent gave last summer that was so important to me. Be careful who you ask for help from, and I yield. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Go ahead. Get to your minute, Larry.
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This is gonna be a long winded one. I'm sorry, Larry, but I think I can shed a little light on this because of my understanding of it. Discharge is the discharging of a debt with another debt. You discharge a debt for a loaf of bread by using a federal reserve note, which is a note, and it has, it is debt based currency.
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And Always note. The word note always evidences promissory note and debt. Always. Oh, hold on. Can leave your contact.
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Now with with respect to the biblical concept okay. Here we go. And, please let me get through it. The biblical concept is the wages of sin is death, and the debt of sin had been paid by Christ on the cross. And when when Christ was crucified, that trust was created. That bond as it were was created as the vehicle for the forgiveness of debt, the forgiveness of sin. So in that way, the birth certificate is converted to a warehouse receipt, which sets up a bond for the future forgiveness of debt. So it is pseudo biblical. Now with respect to bankruptcy of a sovereign country, if a country borrows money from another country and they default on that, what remedy is there? It would have to be an international court. It would be a higher court, a global court.
So bankruptcy still exists. It's a country still has the ability to be insolvent or or seized under bankruptcy or the international version just because they borrowed money and they couldn't pay it. They fought a war, and they needed tanks, but they couldn't buy them.
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But a sovereign a sovereign a sovereign nation like ours is not going to submit, I hope, they haven't yet, to any international court. That's why I say sovereignty answers to no power on Earth, period. So bankruptcy is not an option. If somebody doesn't pay the debts and we get enough of a a tizzy about it, we just go to war and kill each other till we decide who pays what. We did that to Germany after World War one, and it was unfair, and that's why World War two happened. We said you gotta pay back all our war debts. That would never gone. That was that was wrong, the way they handled that. Oh, of course. Yeah. Now could you say One comment. Couldn't you say? What?
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One quick one quick comment. 1933, we ceased being sovereign. We ceased being sovereign in 1933 when we submitted to the Federal Reserve and the International Monetary Fund. Our federal government placed itself under another authority, and it is that authority
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that But that authority has no power to make us do anything, and we if we if we really submitted, we didn't give up our sovereignty. We can get up and move that anytime we
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want. Hey. Can can I quote an idea here now? Isn't the international bond market a bankruptcy court of sorts in itself?
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Well, even if it is, it we we're sovereign. Our nation knows owes no obligation to any agreements they made under the to the banks. By legislation, we can get rid of the Federal Reserve Banks Yes, sir. And get out from under all of it. What And that's too. And that's being floated. But there but Israel's flexing his muscles on how well they control the Congress. Let's It's what's happening right now. Say that we're we're down and we can't get up. We'd talk like that. Well No. All of this is fraud. Well So it's not real anyway. Let's talk like we're soft. Okay. Well and with our process, you become that. So if it dovetails right in with what we do here. Well, I'm I'm taking another step, though, Roger. I'm saying with the process you're talking about, you're not gaining sovereignty. You're declaring your sovereignty. We're we're regaining it.
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I mean, you know That's a whole a hundred. Because there's two places in the constitution where it's lawful and legal of voluntary servitude. One, wherein the article four or wherever it says you can't impair the ability to contract, and any kind of bond servant's always a contract. It's always voluntary. So right there without saying it Yeah. They say it. And then in the thirteenth amendment, again, it's not stated, but it's legal by omission because its other twins are right there.
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So point is your point is it's voluntary. Just volunteer out. Absolutely.
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But you're not in that's why I'm saying we're not in any bondage, and we shouldn't talk that way. Well, we are in a Go ahead. You are if you don't know this. Every time if you are, if you don't know that you need to answer those two questions, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? No. Instead of yes and sign something.
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No. No. It's good to learn all those things, but you get my point, Roger. Well, I do, and I I trust you get my point. You're just telling people, tell them who you really are. You're not changing your status.
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You're telling them what your status really is. Exactly without the fraud. K? Yeah. Because the big picture here We're rebutting the presumption that we are not sovereign. E Esau, Edom has We are rebutting the presumption that we are not sovereign. Okay. I'll buy that. Us to be not sovereign. No. No. We're agreeing with it. They've got a presumption, and we've agreed with it. We gotta unagree with it. That's what I was saying. Your process rebuts that presumption. Yes. Yes. He does. He's yeah. He's just saying you're a buddy in the presumption. I get it. I forgot what I was trying to say. So, anyway, stimulating discussion. Larry, I'm gonna come back to you since fifteen minutes ago. You were there. Yeah, buddy. Come back. Right.
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Okay. So, I'd like Brent to answer my original two questions. But before I restate them, I thought I heard Who? Brent say something that was contrary to what we've been taught. I thought the law of the city was about process with self help remedies, and I thought I heard Brent say that Well the law of the city was, like, kick your butt and take your stuff. I thought that was admiralty law.
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That's admiralty law. Did that Admiralty law. Admiralty law is an expression of the law of the city. The law of the city is fundamentally martial law. That's what it is. At its very bottom, it's martial law. It's their, a single will, a government by a powerful party. You go aboard a ship or you're on a field of battle with a commanding officer, there's one will, and that will governs all. And it's life and death. He in those circumstances, you may be committed to a life sentence at the decision of one man called the old man, the can man in officer. That's martial law. That's con that's law of the city. The law of the city is a monolith. The law of the land is not. The law of the land comes down to one thing, and Roger made mentioned this a while ago. I didn't have opportunity to expand on it. The law of the land says this fundamentally, another common law maxim.
Every tub must sit on its own bottom. Every skin must hang by its own tail, and every case must be decided on its specific merits. There is no broad brush of a legislature that makes everybody fit into the same hole whether you're square or round. That's what legislation does. But when we go to trial, we get specific. And the rest of the world, they don't do that. They don't care. The only thing that matters in a tribunal in France is that you do what the legislation says. That's it. The will of the state governs. And when we go to trial, we fight and decide what the law says as, we're how we're to apply the law to the facts as the jury decides them. That's a whole different ballgame. And so we have things in America and and in England and in other countries. These are common law phrases. May the best case win. May the best man win. You fought me a fair fight. That's not true in the rest of the world. They've never heard of such things, and they don't live that way.
These are part of our lifestyle that, of course, the law of the city wants us to lose. So when I said or I said talking about the law of the city, kick your butt and take your stuff. That's right. That's all it is. And Roger coined that term. He who never quotes is never quoted. So coined those words, so I'll give him credit for them Well because that's all it amounts to. Mussolini said, I want these men tried and shot.
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That's it. Yeah. It's in the region. So the The reason I could come up with that, Brent, is because I've had my ass kicked and stuff, dangerous stuff like.
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Oh, yeah. Does the Babylonian merchant code come from the law of the city? Because in the Babylonian merchant code, it is about process with self help remedies. Right?
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It is the law of the city. No. The law Don't forget. Go back to Babylon. The historical jurisprudence, that wonderful hundred year old book, whole 90 pages, first nine year on the Babylonian merchant code. And what's the first sentence? Babylon reduced everything in the society down to the abstract form of contract. That's the first sentence of that book.
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There have been plenty of people that have made that point, but here's the difference. In the Babylonian law of that, for example, the merchant law you're talking about and, I'm trying to Bagot, the English lawyer said this. Yeah. There have been people in the world that come up with right ideas and try to do the right thing, including Rome in the early days. But none of those systems, all being Babylonian, ever had any access to power to persist in doing what was right. In our Christian tradition, we are empowered to do what is right and persist in doing it. People are smart. They can figure out what's right. They just can't do it, my friends. That's the difference. And that comes down to the individual level and in whose body the gumption breath of God, the person of the spirit of God resides.
That's what makes the difference ultimately. But, yeah, that's all true. But the merchant code as we have it now, for example, the UCC, that that UCC is the principles of our common law tradition of contract applied to merchants. That's what that is. Mhmm. It's not like it's from Babylon. That's not true. No. No. No. The UCC has a long history in our common law tradition beginning with, justice, well, his name is Murray. Our lord Mansfield is a Scotsman. He came up with innovative ideas to apply our common law tradition, the way, the process of it in a world where people can't don't even speak the same language and the merchants were coming. The pie powder pie powder merchants were coming from France to England. They wanted them to come. They brought goods that they wanted. But then when there was a dispute, they didn't have time to stay in England and and fight it out in the courts. Then so Mansfield and his team tried to find ways to apply the common law tradition efficiently and fastly, and he used merchants. He took merchants, and he talked to them. He said, what is the custom when you do these things? What's different than a a guy that's not a merchant because things have to move faster with merchants. And we depend upon that, the fast movements of goods and services.
Our common law tradition takes those ideas and impresses the common law process on top of them and uses them. That's our that's one of the geniuses of our common law tradition. It it it impresses in the service ideas ideas that help support our common law maxims, and that's what the UCC has been. So I'm not with the rest of the patriot community. They they just wanna fight. These guys, these gurus wanna make money, and so they oh, this is evil. That's an evil. Boy, you tell people something's ultimate ultimate evil, they'll listen to you. That's how newspapers used to sell. You know? If it's not nasty, it's not gonna sell. That's how you make money. I'm just trying to give you what I understand for what it's worth, my testimony Okay. And what I've discovered over the decades about the UCC and how how it fits into our common law tradition. Go ahead. Tell you there's one thing in the UCC that says
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if if any issues are not covered by this title, it reverts to the law merchant. Now a minute ago, we had Cherry, and I think it was Annette behind her. We didn't get her recognized. So, Larry, I wanted to make sure. So who's the other gal that wanted to ask a question a minute ago?
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Oh, this is Mary from San Diego.
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Hi, Mary.
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Hi. Oh, peace and blessings through the Lord Jesus Christ to all of us. Thank you. And thank you, Roger and Brent, for gosh. So much. I've just learned so much. But I had a couple comments, and one was, that our our government now is they're listed on Dun And Brad Street. And just even the courts and even the sit all the registrars and the voters' registrars. And so unless we really find out what those, documents say and who owns what, it's like we're under this massive control. I don't know when it happened. I know in California, under the first Brown, he put some tag on the even the state capital in '61, and no one can I cannot no one can even find what it is? They they won't even disclose it. Mhmm. And, and then Jerry Brown franchised the DMVs, with executive order. And so we're dealing with that. And then the other thing I wanted to say was in Muslim countries, they don't have bonds on their people.
So I thought that's interesting. And, what else? I guess that's it for now. I think we're just Mary, that's a good administration of government that was sold. Yes.
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Yes. Well, it was brought in. Coming in. See, there never was any of these administrative agencies until March the ninth of thirty three. The very first this is a good question. It hit me the other day. What was the very first regulation? There wasn't a federal register. There wasn't any kind of APA, but the first regulation is in that is in the bank holiday of thirty three when the banks reopened under regulations by the new secretary of the treasury. That was the first regulation.
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Well, they had bank regulations before that. I mean, I mean, for example, the regulations, the fellow that invented local banking was a Italian from California. Yes. And he did it out of the earthquake of two thousand and six. He was the only bank that didn't lose his records, his money, because he was smart enough to take wagons down there with teams of horses. As the fire was approaching, he he loaded all the records and all the money into his wagons and took them to his house. Uh-huh. And he I his name ended in an I, but I don't remember how to pronounce the rest of it. But he developed he was the one that but because he saved the money in the records, his bank stayed open, and he got really big. And he wanted
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he wanted oh, do I have to wait? No. I was just gonna say it didn't need that developed into the Bank of America?
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Yes. It did. And, of course, the Bank of America is a big international dangerous bank now. But this guy was really a good guy in this sense. He wanted to make loans available to the Italian community of which he was a part. And he called the bank that he formed in California the Bank of Italy. And so and then the regulations see, at that time, it was a state bank. The regulations wouldn't allow a branch branch, banks. He's the one that invented that idea in America. And pretty soon, his branches were all over California. They started in San Francisco. He was from San Jose. By the way, he made a fortune by the time he was 31 years old. His head and uncle was in the produce business. They were farmers.
And and he got to selling produce, and boy did he do good before income tax. But, of course, banking is against the law according to the bible. But this fellow was right headed and and goodhearted in the sense that he said he discovered, of course, when he got into banking after he sold his interest out for millions of dollars in the fruit business, he said, well, why is it only wealthy people can get loans? There's something wrong with this. Are you there, Roger? I'm here. Only wealthy people can get loans. And the people that I know, my friends, and my family, they can't get loans. And he came up with that idea of getting loans. But see how the evil empire has perverted that? What he wanted was his Italian family and friends to be able to buy houses too and automobiles.
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And eventually, all that happened. Go ahead. Yep. And you had just become prosperous. And that's what the Christian religion and under building bills is everybody to become prosperous. These people suck off of that. These parasites, oh, they provide well, they don't provide anything. They provide a form you can sign that creates debt and currency that circulates. Yeah. But but that's all they do. Okay? And then they skim off compound interest on one side, and they got your collateral over on the other side. So what they're really doing in all of this is when you buy something in this system, they're monetizing you the value of your collateral.
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Yeah. This fella actually merged with a a big bank, and they went nationwide, and that became the bank. Instead of Italy, then they called it the Bank of America. Uh-huh. And by the way, this guy, Jimmy Stewart played this guy in the movie Oh, it's a Wonderful Life. Yeah. That's what that was all about. I fundamentally Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, how A lot of literary a lot of literary license. It was the same thing, but George Bailey, remember, he wanted to make sure all the people in the community had loans if they wanted them. Yes. Yeah. And they were loaning out their own money. See, they didn't have this new scheme in place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And so the bank was integrally tied in the community because they were lending local money back out and and not doing this promissory note boogie where I can discount it and get the money back and pull this over your eyes and enslave you, basically.
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Alright. That's fundamentally it. I agree. Yep. Wow. So, Mary, thanks for calling in, and we're glad and thank you for giving us the feedback that you're getting value out of our programs here. I think Brent and I would honestly probably do this show if none of y'all were here that him and I over the years have grown so much from each other's commentary. But thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I know. That's enough. Love you guys. Take care. Thank thank you, sweetie. Alright. And, Roger, I have a question for you. Any don't take don't take in any illegal aliens. Yes. Go ahead, Sherry.
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Okay. So I want to go back to the maxims of law that Brent was speaking about earlier, sitting on your own tuft. Where would you find that in the maxims? And let me also put forward the maxims predate America and are you Oh, wow.
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I couldn't I couldn't make out what she said, Roger. I know. It's sure you get
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it's very difficult to understand. Well, not not much better. No. She was asking about where the maximums of law that you were mentioning earlier could be found. About sitting on your tub. About sitting on your tub or your Oh, no.
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No. Every tub must sit on its own bottom. Ah. That and you must sit on your own bottom too. You you can't you can't sit on somebody else's bottom, I guess Correct. If you're gonna sit down. Where do you find that in the maxims? Well, you you just listen to me say it because happen. Yeah. Listen. No. Really. Here's the way it works. These our common law is a tradition. It's largely oral. And I learned all these things I'm talking about practicing in the courts. You hear them said. We say them over. The judge says them. I said I've had judges say to me, mister Winters, I've never heard anybody say that, and then and he'll start repeating it. Well, it's just stuff we we read about. I don't remember where I read it. It's part of the common law tradition. I'm practicing the courts. I hear these things. I repeat them. I bet if you went to the Internet, you could find it. Just type it in. Every tub must set on its own bottom, and every skin must hang by its own tail, and every case must rest on its own merits, and every every fight must be fair and things like that. It's all part of our common law traditions, part of our English speaking world. It's not part of the rest of the world.
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They don't care. I bet I bet if you take the comparative law classes coming up, you'll hear about it, folks, Sherry. Oh, yeah.
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There's our common law is not something you go out and learn and learn a list of laws. If you wanna learn more about it, I strongly suggest for what it's worth. Go to the website commonlawyer.com and obtain the book called Excellence of the Common Law. Excellence of the Common Law. It's 958 pages, but it's in sections, and you can pick out the section that maybe interest you and read about it. I've I've tried to include everything in there that I've known and learned about our common law tradition as it as it is compared and contrasted fundamentally with the law of the city.
And then try to show that in this course, we're gonna use that book. Not all of it. We won't have time. Use sections out of that book to teach the course with a reading assignment. I want you to come to that course. You're interested, obviously. You're asking intelligent questions, but it would help just to come and listen. And plus, that keeps us going too. And that's what we do. We Yeah. We have to keep going somehow, and you can help us. Okay. I, hesitate to ask this. You, Brent and Roger.
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You're welcome, Sherry. Appreciate you, man.
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Okay. Well, we're trying to see if we can get men back into the picture, Sherry. So you ladies could go do darning, clean, do whatever you do best, children, etcetera.
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Baking. Baking. Keep the goodies coming.
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Please. Please do. Okay, Larry.
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Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. My original two questions to Brent were should the state have the power to forcibly remove you your yearly rental fee. And DeSantis's reasoning on this is you go buy a car, you go buy a television, you pay a tax one time on it, and you own it, and it can't be taken away from you, and he thinks the same should be applied to your home. And then the second question is where did property tax originate? Well And I'm pretty sure property tax is collected at the county level in virtually every state.
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Yeah. That's right. That's right. And the whole Roger, did you start to say something? Oh, there's so much to say about this. Again, does the car you're gonna buy and pay the sales tax on, do you need, the fire department in case it catches on fire and there's one of these battery cars you can't put out? I mean, you see, you're I think you're talking apples and oranges. In in in in property taxes, you're agreeing to help support and provide the essential services that everybody benefits from. Unless, for example, you're 65 and you don't have children and you wanna take the school board part out of your taxes, for instance.
K? But see, I see those two things as different. And that's why I tell you if we're talking about a loyal title, and you should achieve that as some people have, is, every year, you go over to the fire department and stroke them a check for about $500. I'm not on the property rolls anymore. This doesn't come out of my property tax. But if my cows catches on fire, I want your butt in those trucks over here.
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Well, that's why volunteer fire departments are important, and you don't have to be tax heavy. But beyond that, of course, I'm against let you're talking land taxes. That's what we're in real estate. I'm against that. The way that arose in America and I don't know how exactly it got started, but people started saying, well, we believe education. Every child should have an education. Therefore, we're gonna everybody everybody has a little bit of land. Therefore, we're gonna tax landowners, and we're gonna apply that money to education of your children. That's how it started. Yeah. I remember all of Firth Rock down the road from us, said he went back and looked at the tax roll on the 60 acres is where he lived growing up, and he said it was $2 a year.
Two dollars, of course. And back then, most everybody owned land. And the the idea back then was because most people in America were farmers, most people in America own land, and they wanted to get hold of it so they could vote. If nothing else, if you didn't have land, it wouldn't let you vote. So they said, you don't have any stake in our community unless you have land. We don't care how much money you got. Land gives you a stake in the community. It it's a permanence to that. See, it all comes back to the land and the Christian mindset. And we forget about that too. We end up thinking things we don't even know why we think them. So that was true when I was growing up, and they said, well, most of the budget of land taxes goes to education. But here's what's happened, of course. Now we notice, most people don't own land like they used to.
And our, the money that goes to education is teaching peep teaching children things that most people don't want them to be taught. Education is not the answer, unless you're teaching the right things, and they aren't, obviously. They're teaching children to be sex perverts. Why don't we just say it that way and cut through all the baloney? No. No. You're just teaching them to be sex perverts, and we don't like that. And we don't wanna give our money to you that for that anymore. So why should I have to pay the government, taxes, which are nothing more than a rental payment as you said? I think somebody said. And if I don't pay it, then you'll have a sheriff sale and sell it.
Back when everybody was paying land taxes because most everybody had a little piece of land, people didn't complain. And back when the the schools were not teaching things that were anti biblical, and they weren't. I mean, not that long ago when I was in first grade, our teacher prayed with us twice a day, and I was in a government school. Yeah. And the school bus drivers were all preachers in the little local country churches around there because that's what the parents wanted. They want preachers that they needed the money anyway. They didn't have much much money being preachers in a little church, so they gave them jobs driving the school buses, and parents were comfortable with that. But, see, that's just a cultural reality that made everything more acceptable. It's not acceptable now. The teachers are are being controlled from above or teach them sex perversion to the children.
Yes. All these I don't wanna do that, but you're doing it. Quit. If it's that bad, get out of there. Do we need schools at all? No. We'd be better off to have to have not have schools now because of what they're teaching. I don't want my children, my nieces, my nephews, my neighbor's children to be sex perverts. That's what they're teaching. Well, that's that's where the land tax has come from. But because people to summarize, because people most people don't own land anymore like that. And, you know, here's what we've got is, large landholders where I come from, farmers. They're getting the farms are getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and they're paying all the taxes.
And people that have children in schools aren't paying any land taxes. A lot of them don't wanna do that. They think that's unfair. Well, it is unfair. There's gotta be another way to get money. Yeah. But, you know, here's what I could see happening. If they take away the annual land taxes in Florida, what they're gonna do probably is attach a massive tax on a piece of property every time you buy it. That they'll do something like that. They'll get their money. Don't kid yourself. No. But depends on how you want it to happen. You know, like in some states, it doesn't cost nothing to renew your license plate every year. But when you buy a car and get a license plate, they're skinned you 17 ways from Sunday. A thousand $1,500 for a license plate, see. Yeah. There's loads of
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Yeah. Yeah. You get my point. Yes. Ad valorem taxes in Georgia. There's also Absolutely off the hook.
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There's also another element. It's this element that came forward about twenty five years ago called comprehensive annual financial reports, which is what every one of these municipalities, cities, states, government runs a second set of books underneath. There's another element. Okay? For instance, in Florida, Larry, when the the the Sunshine Parkway, which been around for, what, thirty five, forty years, when when that was told, it was to pay for the Sunshine Parkway. Right? But after it was paid for, the toll didn't stop, did it?
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Uh-huh. That's right. Where'd it go?
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Where'd it go? Oh, it's comprehensive annual financial Roger.
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I'm in. Yes. Roger. Alright. Hold it. Hold on. Two, three people. I mean, who who's Roger? Was that Samuel? I've I've seen her first. Just just a moment. Just a moment, Samuel, please. The there's two CAFR reports. There's the comprehensive annual financial report and the comprehensive annual financial report. The comprehensive annual financial report is complete because it's confidential. The confidential annual financial report is complete, but it's confidential. The comprehensive is neither comprehensive or confidential because it doesn't have everything. It doesn't have all the accounts they hid.
One one interesting thing
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I want to bring that up in the discussion because there's a whole another layer on all this property tax stuff we hadn't even touched on until you get to that. Well, there's another thing on the movie It's a Wonderful Life. It was set in the nineteen forties
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around World War two. I would bet you that, Benton Falls or whatever, the name of the town was, I would bet you dollars to Doug Nuts that that was unincorporated. I would bet you they had a volunteer fire department, and, this is really where everything's gone off the rails is the incorporation of townships and the creation of a legislative behemoth that does nothing but suck money to buy all the stuff it doesn't need, really. You know, I believe in property taxes. I do. But I don't believe in the property taxes on tax assessments including improvements. You wanna tax two acres?
Fine. But don't tax the three bedroom house that's sitting on my two acres. That's my business, and ensuring it is my responsibility. So keep your fire trucks in the barn, and we'll see how it works out. Anyway, sorry. That I'm I'm off my soapbox now. You you you feel better? I feel better. Much better.
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Yeah. I was gonna add
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I was gonna add to the to to Burien's claim. He said in in or around the year February, he estimated that there were 60,000,000,000,000 in local state and government assets that aren't on those books, yet it costs money to maintain all those assets, and that's what a lot of taxes are for. And then you have all this administrative government. Stamper put that number of laws around 45,000,000 around the same year, February. So, you know, they can cut. I'm sure a lot more of that tech property taxes go not just to fire and, you know, other other things just going everywhere. And there's a lot of money. You look at California, I bet you it's a trillion bucks.
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Oh, easy. There'd be a lot of going on there, mister Samuel. Lot of.
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Well, it the pro you know, I got a a thing from Joel Salatinny today. He's talking about a a a farm in Iowa who she she lists she starts out her her her story with, she gets a knock on the door. It's late it's late in the evening. And it's the sheriff there to arrest her and her husband. Oh, what was her crime? Farming. She she said they were an LLC, and they they they went through all the hoops of licensing and everything for their organic farm, their organic milk, their organic cheese. And she listed all the stuff and all the things that they compelled her to do that they knew they were never gonna give her a permit for, but made her go to the classes and do everything else and then to shut her off. And she got wind of the PMA, so she did the PMA stuff and started a private organization.
Well, you know what the government did with its money? It sent plants out there, enough of them, to finally catch some,
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in a
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a lying way, dishonest way that somebody had signed up who's who didn't sign up in order for them to sell them some stuff as not being a member of the PMA, and that's what that sheriff was there to arrest them for. Uh-huh. I mean, that's the kind of government we have, and I think we could live without, you know, about 45,000,000 of those laws. I yield.
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Yeah. I think we would live under those better if it was a more Christian oriented society. It's a problem with that. The problem with what we do here, Samuel, is I don't want people just running through. Oh, all I gotta do is file a piece of paper and I'm out of the IRS. Great. See you. Bye. That doesn't do anything. K? The the problem we've got isn't because of a lack of filing papers. The problem we've got is from a lack of education and understanding. That's why as you've heard me say, I push that so hard because because there's a direct correlation to how well you've got command of this information, how much you've grown as a person because of it as to how free you are. And that's what you want. That's the ultimate goal is to be free. Well, without this other, you're not free. That guy that filed a piece of paper and ran on down the road, he ain't free.
Oh, he might get out of taxes, but he's not free. He's never gonna understand it. He's never gonna be re empowered. He's never gonna be able to help tell others. He's never gonna be able to help turn all this around because that's an education and understanding problem. So, anyway, I like Paul. We'll get off my soapbox. Anyone else got anything for, Britt and myself? Oh, there's Sherry back on her computer. Things. Well, now Sherry, you've had a little bit. Who's this other female? We'll come back to you. Who's this other gal right there?
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Moe.
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Moe. Hey, Moe.
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Yes, sir. How you doing? Calling you from California.
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Well, we're glad to hear from you from California.
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I am very grateful that you've allowed me to
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talk to you for a minute. Yes, ma'am. Well, it might be more than a minute. I never can't tell. Yes, ma'am. What can we do you for today?
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Walter, I have a very, simple question, if you can call it that. I naturalized, my parents paid a lot of money. You know, we did it the legal way, in Texas. Been here, almost my whole life.
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Yes.
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I've educated myself in the common law. I've done a lot of research. I have learned an incredible amount of information from your site and from mister Lustica. It's been very eye opening.
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He's he's impressive.
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All of you guys are. It's amazing. I wanna thank you for that. I've always been curious about law. I've always done my own research. I've always tried my best to educate myself. So my simple question is this, based on all the information that I've gathered, is it or is it not possible for me to, send that affidavit to be recognized as a national, or is it, not not offered to me because I, quote unquote, naturalized? I have the naturalization certificate. I've read it. Uh-huh. No. Moe, you're cool. Very, you know.
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You're cool. Look at the fourteenth amendment. All persons born or naturalized. So there you are right there. K? In The United States Right. Comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And if those two legal factors apply, then the conclusion is you are a citizen of The United States, and the state wherein you reside shorten that to resident. K? So, yes, you can. And the case that I would give you is pretty interesting. I've never heard of it. Brent, you you may have not heard us discuss this. It's a case called Afrohym v Rusk, and that was in the mid sixties, a f r o y m, I think, if you wanna look at it.
And that was in the mid sixties. R o y m? A a f r o y m, I believe, is the way it's spelled. Okay. Unusual. He's a Jew. Okay? And Rusk Okay. Was Dean Rusk, who in the sixties was the Secretary of State because he was from Georgia. And I've been in his office in the Richard B. Russell Building before. He was quite celebrated in those days. And, what happened was, Abraham was a Hungarian Jew, and he immigrated to The US. And then they caught him voting in an Israeli election, a foreign election, which at that point was deemed not legal, and they tried to take his citizenship away.
Now there was a previous Supreme Court ruling, late fifties, I think, that said they could do that. And this was revisiting that principle upon the court. K? And so the court reheard the Afraheem case, and they came back and said they can't take his his rights away. You're right. Now they didn't tell him about the other status of being a national. They're not gonna tell you. But why did they say and overrule the previous decision that they couldn't take his rights away? Because they've got to be voluntary. They can't take his rights away. They've got to be voluntary. And just for you, same thing. You can volunteer out of that condition over into the original condition even though you immigrated into the country.
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Right. K?
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Gotcha. Alright. Paul's got something to add here. Hold on, Moe.
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Quickly. Alright. Afroyim,
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a f r o y I m, p Russ Sorry. From 1967. The US Supreme Court ruled that US citizenship cannot be revoked involuntarily even for actions like voting in a foreign election. Yep. The court overturned a previous ruling, Perez v Brownell, and established that citizenship is a fundamental right protected by the fourteenth amendment. This meant that only voluntary relinquishment or abandonment of citizenship could lead to its loss.
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Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. But Now they did not instruct him on how to do that.
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No. That's right. But it's but it's right there in front of me. I I looked it up. I looked it up. Afroin versus Rusk. And and and Justia right now, justia.com looking it over. There you go. Yeah. You you you you folks are the only ones that are actually doing this. I've done the research, and I'm like, okay. How do I actually doing this. I've done the research and I'm like, okay, how do I come back to my natural common law state of national or, state citizen. Right. Which is at this moment, Californian. And finally I stumbled upon you, and you guys gave the answer.
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I believe we're the only source of this information on the face of the Earth on our side. You can't get anywhere else, Moe.
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May I? You stay here now. Sure.
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You see here who you are. Everything goes back to this principle right here. Everything's got to be voluntary. Now am I allowed? Hold hold, Sherry, please. Did you just wait a second? Everything's got to be voluntary. If it's not voluntary, it's tyranny. If they tell you what you are, it's tyranny. That's why they've done this, what they've done over so much of a length of time with all the deceit to be able to ask you those two questions. After you naturalize and they'd say, Moe, are you a citizen of The United States? Moe, are you a resident? And you've already volunteered into the condition, and what they're getting you to do is reaffirm it, reaffirm it, reaffirm it. Hey, Moe, are you still a serf? Hey, Moe, are you still a serf? That's what they're asking.
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I got you. Now, my next question is I always kept my because I always I understand that there's always something that is behind everything that they do. I know it's not just straightforward. I've always known this. So I always kept my certificate of naturalization. I never signed it. I left it blank. I never went to the Social Security and changed that information to quote unquote US citizen. My driver's license still says I'm a foreigner. I'm a noncitizen, right, because I had a green card. So what what what process, would you recommend that I go through?
Because I again, I know what they monetize everything. I know they monetize everything that has the and and Legius name on it. I get it. So what's the process at this point once I, send that affidavit to the state department? And question number two, I have to do an emergency travel here in July, and I don't know if I'm gonna have enough time. The your website says I have to have three weeks before I can apply for the passport. I don't think I'm gonna have that kind of time. You don't no. Be a problem for me to do both? No. It's not a problem. You can do it now. Okay? But you got
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and it would suffice. That's a for a whole different reason from just one incident. I had to change the whole process because this one guy. K? But you, I'm sure, don't have any you don't have any criminal stuff in your background, do you? No, sir. I I'm, I'm a street hero. You didn't well, you didn't sound like you did, but I had to ask you. Okay?
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And I got it.
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That's the reason for that. So if you don't, you sound like just the sweetest, little gal out there from California. You can go through and do that passport. You can also although you got plenty of time because they're turning those things around pretty quickly, you could also expedite it if you wanna pay extra. But this is what I'm gonna ask you right now. Without going into a whole another show because we can do that with you. At this point, I can sense it. Okay? Can you come back Saturday?
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I can definitely try, sir. I work two jobs, every day. So, Saturday, I work six days a week.
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Same time. My only day off. But I can Well, the the thing is here, we've already had a two hour program. We're not broadcasting anymore. We got our group here that's on the call. Oh. And and if we get into all this, it's gonna be another hour, hour and a half. Okay? So, that's long for us. If you can try and come back Saturday, same time, Ken, whatever your time is out there that you joined us, and and we could take the whole two hours and go over it for you. But it's a very simple process. There's things we've come to the conclusions of that are the better way to approach this. We've never had any blowback from the federal government outside of trying to bluff you and see what you know.
And, outside that, if you can make it Saturday, that'll be our Saturday show. And that's fantastic because this will be covering a lot of what we call basics, and everybody should be exposed to these basics as many times as possible. K? I have a really quick question. In my power to be there tomorrow. Tomorrow, Saturday. Right? K. Great. Yes, sweetie. I think it is. And we'll look forward to that. And we love new people around here, especially ones that are are like you and have the criteria you bring. Okay? So Paul wants to say something. Very grateful. Yes. Yes or no? Oh, yes. Very grateful. A really quick question.
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We know that they use the birth certificate as a warehouse receipt. I wonder what they do for people that naturalize. I wonder what the basis of those Well, I've wondered, you know, I've wondered that same thing myself.
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See, somehow you're being monetized. Believe it or not, I have my, I, I got my foyer from, a few months ago and they had every single piece of paper that my parents ever gave them, which was a long form birth certificate, from the country I was born in. And, they had affidavits. They had everything. They returned that to me. I never knew this. So they they did do that.
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Fantastic. And it's interesting that that would be there. Now let me ask you the big fat softball over the plane question. What country did you immigrate from?
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Just, your neighbor, Mexico.
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Oh, Mexico. South of the border.
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Alright. Yep. Well, there are we have a little, a little thing going to Mexico right now. I guess it's solved. The embassy here harbored a big fugitive from one of the previous regimes, and they were harboring in the embassy. And the Ecuadorians broke in with the military and grabbed his sorry ass, and Mexico took great umbrage to it.
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K. Yep.
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So They're doing all kinds of things over there.
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That was a little while back. But,
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anyway well, listen then. Brent Brent may have already left. Brent, I don't know if you gotta go or not, but, does anybody have anything else for us on what we've discussed or something we can touch on lightly?
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I do. Still there.
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Oh, Sherry. Sorry. Okay. Oh, hello, Sherry. You changed Yeah. Sherry. Bringing it back. On three. You've been on three times today. What do you mean hallelujah? Come back to you. You got a better phone. Bringing it back to punctuation
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and the meaning of words. So if you could speak to the word millage, which is found on every property tax statement that people have and how it's been changed. And, you know, millage used to mean point 10% of a penny, and now it's 10% of a thousand. Anyway, I yield and Okay. Request that
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he speak on You know we're not minting you know we're not minting pennies anymore, Trump. Put a stop to that. Costs 4¢ to mint every penny. Go ahead, bro. Mhmm.
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Well, I'm You know, commas are powerful things. I'm here Comma. I didn't
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I didn't have a comment. Go ahead, Paul.
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Well, comma saved grandma's life. It did because there is a world of difference between let's eat, grandma, and let's eat, grandma.
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Roger? Yes. Uh-oh. There's Larry again. Yes, sir.
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Hey. So, Brent, you it's before when you're giving me your answer, are you saying that prop, property tax is an unlawful tax under common law?
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No. No. I'm not. I'm not saying that. Do you agree
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with do you agree with paying that tax
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or disagree with it? No. No. I disagree with it. But my point is this, our common law is not, a list of do's and don'ts. Our common law is a way, w a y, of life, a process, a course we get on and we move forward. And we do things a certain way. It's not it's not the result. It's not result oriented. So the question is, should we pay, property tax? Well, that's you're you're talking about a result there. Let's ask this. What, what process was used to put that tax in place? Was it lawful? And we people were saying, well, Trump got elected president. Well, we should be asking, and many people did. So say, wait a minute. Did we use the right process here for the state? Did the states get to dictate the rules of the election, or did the feds come blowing in and try to take over? See, that's a those are process questions. That's what our common law is. If we follow the proper process according to the Bible, and the Bible says God has already already ordained the result.
The judgment, he says in Deuteronomy, is not yours. Be not afraid of the face of any man, whether he bits, be be rich, whether he be poor. But just follow the process. Do it the way I tell you to do it. Jesus Christ did not say, John fourteen, I am the list of laws. He didn't even say, I am the laws. He said, I am the way. What does the word Torah of the old Hebrew Old New Testament mean? Correct. It means this. It appears in the verb form lots in the Old Testament. Torah. It means the way pointed out with the index finger. Mhmm. It's also used as a verb to speak of pointing a bow with an arrow in it at a certain target.
And it's also spoken up to talk about the target of a sling. It's what's your point, man. The the end toward which you're driving something, but it is the way. That's why Jesus Christ said, when you put your hand to the plow, don't look backwards. Don't do it. You need to keep your eye focused on getting to where you're going. And if you look backwards, you're gonna plow a crooked furrow. And I know that's true because I've done it. You don't look backwards when you're plowing. When you're laying a headland, you look straight ahead till you get the headland laid or your furry and the field will be as crooked as a dog's hind leg. It's all about the way, the path.
The the most, the best selling book outside the Bible in the English tongue has been, for centuries, Pilgrim's Progress. The fellow that wrote that, Bunyan, understood the Christian life. He said it is a way, a path you get on. It is a progress when you're on that path. It's not a matter of do this or don't do that. It's learning how to how, h o w, to live your life and how to approach your problems. Mhmm. Your your children come to you and they're complaining. It becomes he said, he said. He said, she said. That's what every trial at common law is. He said, she said. It's a swearing contest.
I'm not exaggerating. That's all it is. It's a swearing contest. But the question isn't, who am I gonna decide is is gonna win? The question for the judge is, I'm just here to make sure that it's a fair fight. We follow the right course of process. We fight this fight according to Hoyle. That's if you're playing cards, that Hoyle. That's Hoyle. We fight this fight according to the Queensbury rules. Oh, that's the rules used in boxing. You fight according to the rules. You don't do things that are unfair. You fight according to rules that will give the best case, the most meritorious case to win.
May the best man win. That's in a boxing match. May the most skilled boxer win. May the fellow who has trained the hardest win. May the person whose case is most meritorious win. But your case cannot be shown to be meritorious without due process. There's a certain way we go about doing it. And those ways we go about doing it in our common law tradition, the vast majority of them are not written down anywhere. The constitution of The United States says you're entitled, in the federal courts anyway, to trial by jury. There's nothing nothing in our constitution that talks about or list the freight train load of things that must be done in order to properly impanel a jury.
But it's all there in our common law tradition, and we follow it. And if you don't know anything about this common law tradition, if you don't know anything about the way we are to do things, our constitution of The United States is a meaningless, dispirited, dry, and bony skeleton of words that means nothing. Lady said a while ago, she was born in Mexico. Mexico, of course. I could tell listening to her. She didn't grow up there. She must have been got she must have came to The States pretty quick because I can the way she talks. It's very hard for,
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someone, a Spanish speaker to overcome all of the the dialectical inferences of Spanish. And her English was perfect, Moe. Compliment to you. Go ahead, Brent. Yeah. She's American. She is American by culture and by naturalization.
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But, people I've discovered this too. People that were not culturized or were culturized in Mexico have a hard time with our common law tradition. Why? Because they live in a world of Romanism. And in the heart of hearts of Mexico is a religion. It dictates everything, including government. And in that that religion is imperial. That means it's run by a dictator. Mhmm. Well, if you're comfortable and you grow up with a dictator in your heart of hearts, your religious sensibilities, you're gonna want a government that's like that too. You're comfortable with your government being that way. That's why Mexico's government is that way. A lot of people smarter than me have said, show me the fundamental government of the of the dominant religion of a country, and I will show you the government of that country. Yeah. Absolutely. It's always the same. The Americans, the Anglo we wanna say something, Roger? I was gonna say the common law is sneaking in down here, though.
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Interestingly enough, they out they okayed common law marriage.
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Oh, yeah. That's the way they do things, but come here here's another problem. I like I like it when when people bring up things that I can say something about, it makes me feel like I'm useful. And so common common law marriage is not what people say it is. Everybody says common law marriage is when you just live with somebody without going to a marriage ceremony. Shacking up. Shacking up. That's not common law marriage. Common law marriage is when you're holding yourself out as man and wife, and there's no way you can get to a preacher or a courthouse because it's too far. Oh, okay. And in America that's why in America, common law marriage became real important because everywhere people went in America, whatever government there was, the courts that were there said, we think marriage is so important. We're gonna bend over backwards to say people are married and treat them that way. Even if they didn't they they live so far from civilization in America that happened that they couldn't get to a courthouse. So they said our common law tradition, there's no place in it. There's no place in the Bible where marriage ceremonies are authorized by the law of God. No place. We have customs. We get to the New Testament, but that's not in the law of God. What is marriage? Is marriage a ceremony? I marry people. I tell them, look. I'm not marrying you. I'm just we're just here to recognize what God has done.
God, the Bible says, puts men and women together. It doesn't happen in a marriage ceremony. A marriage ceremony is recognition of something that God has done. And the the the people that are getting married, they recognize what God wants to do, they think, so they request a ceremony. That's why it's important when people wanna get married that somebody have a long time of discussion with them and say, look. Are you convinced God that wants you to do this? Let's talk about this. What does the Bible say? How can you know according to god's book that god wants you to get married? Because if you really conclude that and there's some bible on it where you can pound it on, well, then I'll go ahead and we'll do the ceremony in recognition of what god has done. And during that ceremony, I will say this, What god has put together, let no man put asunder.
We're recognizing with common law marriage, if people common law marriage and many American states, I know, have one particular, and the state says any common law marriage consummated consummated after nineteen o seven will not be recognized as a common law marriage. Because a common law marriage in our common law tradition is a marriage that the courts will uphold even though there was not a ceremony, there was no official recognition from any church. That's really what it comes down to. Any Christian. Christian. I stress Christian, Trinitarian believe in church. Mhmm. If you don't have that, people say, well, you're not married. That's not true at all. I meet people constantly because the ceremony is going away, obviously.
People are shacking up, having families, sharing bank accounts, sharing mortgages, and they'll say to me, I'll say a young couple, are you married? You got a little baby? Oh, you're married. Oh, well, they get real sheepish, and they'll say something like, well, we're just living together. And they didn't wanna say it. And I said, wait a minute, dude. Are you bedding this girl? I sell I tell them that way. Try to get their attention. Are you bedding this girl? Of course, they give me a nervous giggle at that point. I said, look. If you're bedding this girl, don't you ever say you ain't married. And by the way, your your wife stand, standing here, she'll appreciate it if you say we're married. She'll like that. And then she'll appreciate it that you hold yourself out to the world and say we're married. Do not sheepishly say we're not married. We're shacking up. We're living. No. No. No. No. Here, I see a baby. Are you you're responsible, dude. You're done cross the Rubicon.
You're not getting out of this. And if you try to, god's gonna slap you 17 ways from Sunday if you're a Christian man. He'll slap you back in the line. Don't try to get out of it. That's my advice. But don't think that just because you didn't have a ceremony, you're not married. Now is it a good idea to have a ceremony? And the answer is yes. Why do we have ceremonies in the Christian world for this for this reason? It is number of reasons. One of them is a holding out to the world that you are married. Married is marriage is to be made public. It's so important, So overwhelmingly important to even continue in as a country that we say, make this public. That's our culture. Yeah. Have a ceremony.
Most people that get married are more interested in the ceremony than they are the marriage. They're they're more interested in the pretty dresses and the flowers. That's all hogwash. Hogwash. Oh, it's okay, I suppose. I'm trying to be extreme to make a point. What's important? The important thing is that you hold yourself out publicly and have a few witnesses show up have a few witnesses show up. Why are they there? We invite do you invite people to the wedding so you they can see your pretty dress so that you they can attend the the feast afterwards and the cake? No. That's alright, but that's not the fundamental reason. The fundamental reason is so they can testify to what you're recognizing. And when you try to screw up, they can slap you back in the line and help help do what ought to be right. That's why they're there. And if you you ask yourself, young person or even older, who do you want to slap you back in the line when you screw up? Those are people you want to invite. You know, it's better to be slapped back in line by family and friends than it is by strangers.
Invite people that you want to be held responsible to to stick to your marriage. That's the truth of the matter. I wish I had recorded that. I could get it back to people. It it is recorded. Oh, good point, Roger. We can do that. Yeah. Paul's got it. This is my woman and hands off. What's that? What's that? Rick That's the this is my woman and hands off. That's right. Well, that that's a little more of it. Yeah. Yeah. That's and that you're you're saying thank you. You're saying that to the world. You're holding yourself out to the world. That's what marriage is. It must be public.
That's the way god wants it. And and it's a commitment. It's a hell of a commitment, marriage is. But remember what your commitment your your it's so important that you're acquiescing your commitment in what god has done. And to not do that is to spit in his face. It gives you a wife, men, or it's a gift from god. I know men would say, if this is a gift from god, I I hate to see what he's got that's bad for me. Right. And and and some women feel justified in saying that. Oh, absolutely. And sometimes that's true. You you made him you did the wrong thing. That can happen, but go ahead, Roger. I was gonna say Neil Bortz. Do you know who you he is or was?
[02:48:34] Unknown:
Who? Talk show host Neil Bortz? No. Go ahead. Out of Atlanta. He's syndicated. He used to say he was an attorney too. He used to say, all men are pigs. Yeah. And I think And he's damn right. Yeah.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
Well, what did we we did this last week, I think. Mother's Day was Saturday. Right? Yes, sir. Man is a bear in most relations. Worm and savage, otherwise. Man propounds negotiations, and man accepts the compromise. And very where very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact to its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act. But the woman that God gave him, every fiber of her frame proves her launched. Her one sole issue armed and engined for the same. And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail, the female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
There's a difference. It's an important difference. Man does not have everything he needs to conquer the land. You see, it comes back to the land, and marriage is a is an integral part of that trust settlement that god made with our grandma and grandpa Eve to be fruitful and multiply and cover the land. And if you you can't do that, man, without a woman. You can't do that without a woman. And if you can't do that, a lot of marriages don't have children, but you do have the responsibility to scatter. You're part of that scattering. You're part of that multi case. Scatter. Yes. God wants it. God said So take care of my land, and you can't I want you to enter land and take care of it. And it's worthless and unattended.
God think of it this way, friends. There is no other reason, according to the Bible, for the great gospel of God, the forgiveness of sins through our lord Jesus Christ, other than God wants a people that are empowered to persistently obey him respecting his land. And if we don't do that, the Bible says the land, we allow it to be polluted. And if it is polluted, God will throw our carcasses off the land. That over and over starting with the Garden of Eden, that's the theme of the Bible. He will eject you, to use the common law law term from the land. To use the biblical words, the land will vomit you out. Do you think maybe maybe God is using this overwhelming evil?
Oh, he uses evil men to slap his people back into line with their false religion and their demon gods flooding in on us by the millions. Is it because maybe? Maybe. We have not fulfilled our responsibility, and we have allowed his land to be polluted? Polluted by our acquiescence and putting up with or doing evil. Yep. I'm not gonna be doing this. I I, yeah, read the bible or somebody said, hey, Brent.
[02:51:52] Unknown:
I think he's Larry. Yeah. Larry. So
[02:51:55] Unknown:
if I understand you correctly, property tax is lawful as long as when it was established, due process was involved. Is that correct? Well
[02:52:05] Unknown:
well, that's a good start, but consider this also. And I'd ask you. I want you to look. I'll look. I is there any place in the Bible where the allodial landlord says property tax is lawful? Listen. If the Bible doesn't say it explicitly, then we have no authority to go on. The Bible does not say explicitly and clearly that we're we have jurisdiction to make alcohol illegal like we stupidly tried to do once in America. I mean, you Americans, I can you believe that? I can't even believe that American did that and then foolishly tried to make it a part of the constitution of The United States. It's not a federal question at all. It doesn't belong in the constitution. If a state or a town wants to be dry, that's their business.
That's not the business of The United States. But coming back to that, my point is, if the constitution doesn't grant that authority, to do, then or or the constitution of your state or let's take it on further back, then we don't find it there. Let's look in the Bible. Does the Bible give men authority to outlaw the manufacture, transportation, and consumption of alcoholic beverages? I don't see it anywhere in there. I see a lot of ugly things said about liquor, how dangerous it is, how it clogs clogs and fogs your judgment. Yep. How drunkenness is evil and dangerous. I see all that. But I don't see that. Listen, if the Bible doesn't give men the scope of jurisdiction to make a discernment about some of these questions, then I'd say let's get away from them. Good. And so because I'm not the final word on anything, I just say to you, what does the Bible say? Can you find any hint of of land taxes in the Bible? Well, he said mentioned something about due process.
[02:53:58] Unknown:
Larry, you know that this is all voted on by the members of the community. That's why things like all politics is local applies because they put those bond issues and stuff up as referendums on elections. So there is due process then, isn't there?
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Well, is a referendum due process?
[02:54:19] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
Yes. There there is. The problem is once these things get set, in place or established, it's hard to find remedy because what happens is, like, you have an older couple. They bought their house when they were young and they had children, and they paid this, you know, their property taxes went to pay the school taxes and the garbage pickup and all these other things, you know, to maintain the roads, etcetera. And now they don't have children anymore.
[02:54:48] Unknown:
And so they have to continue to pay that tax, which a large portion of it includes the school tax. And that to me is just not justified in in that respect. Agree with you. I agree with you. They could pass a referendum that after if you're so much an age and no children, that that drops off of your percentage of what you have to pay. Now the real problem is the way the tax is calculated and what's going on around the country now with this crooked stuff of the the board going to people going, well, how much money do you need in that budget there next year, Philly? And, oh, to about 20,000,000, and and that they're in computing it on that instead of what they really do need. That's what's going on all over the country. It's driving house rates up, and people are gonna have to start moving because they can't afford to pay the damn property taxes anymore, and it's gonna set a whole bunch of things in motion that aren't good.
[02:55:46] Unknown:
Right. And and that's another point I was gonna make. So you own a house, and so this older couple, they've lived in it for, like, say, fifty years. They originally paid, say, 50,000 for it. But now according to today's market, it's worth 300,000. Well, what the county keeps doing is they keep reassessing and saying your tax is based upon the 300,000, not what you originally paid. And to me, that's, again, that's unjust.
[02:56:13] Unknown:
Well, they've got ways in the sale price and how you figure your taxes and stuff to equate those things from that kind of a big differential. They call it stepping. I think Julie was talking about it here the other day on when you sell a property you've held for a long time, how you can get a true value instead of just the inflated value. There's some way to do it numerically. Okay? But, anyway, yeah, these are but, property tax in my mind is is just you're helping everybody agree to provide for common services that you couldn't do yourself just like the original 13 states.
All didn't have ambassadors to to London and France and Germany, and they combined all that into a nonexistent federal government. I mean, it existed, but it was these people collectively doing things for all of these people. There was no before the civil war and and and the fourteenth amendment, there was no federalist type governmental structure where, for instance, they could issue rights and and and and, get duties out. K? So, anyway, Larry, it's a it's a big question, and I don't see the evil of it. My point is just because the word taxes on it, it doesn't operate like all the other ones do, and there's a bunch of different kinds.
Yes, Sherry.
[02:57:46] Unknown:
Yes. I would like Brent to speak of the word millage because that's in every property tax statement and that is the basis for the taxation. And how it's been changed from 0.01% of the penny
[02:58:05] Unknown:
to 0.1 of $1,000 a yield.
[02:58:19] Unknown:
Brent, do you know anything about mileage?
[02:58:26] Unknown:
How do you how do you spell it?
[02:58:29] Unknown:
M I l l a g e, I believe. No. What is it? Basis of it's the it's like she was saying it's a percentage of a penny or something, and it's the Oh. Oh. Key base adjustment that they use to calculate your property tax.
[02:58:43] Unknown:
Oh, I see. Well, it's ain't it isn't it nice to think? What does the Bible say? The Bible says fix you gotta have fixed weights and measures that are same throughout the nation. If we had fixed weights and measures of the dollar, this wouldn't be speculation. You buy a house for 50,000 and you sell it for a hundred thousand and there's no inflation, well, you'd have a capital gain, but you can't tell what the capital gain is now. Not impossible. And things are only worth what people pay for it, so you got that to add to it. So it's it's all money. All of it. Yeah. And we can't have a country that continues in prosperity without standards fixed standards of weights and measures that are throughout the nation. That's what our constitution says too,
[02:59:27] Unknown:
Then that's our common law tradition. I've got fixed measures coming. My stomach growls. It's time to go. So Yeah. So that's what's happening. You've almost been on an extra hour. Yeah. I love you. I love the curiosity and the the the want to learn and the truth seeking that's behind all of it, but sometimes, oh, Brent and I just can't hardly make it for all that length of time. Yeah. We but we appreciate all of it. And thank you all. Thank you, Roger,
[02:59:58] Unknown:
for your patience, discussions, and all the sparks and all the things that happened are in Yeah. Tell us to understand better.
[03:00:07] Unknown:
Well, it's iron sharpening iron. And what goes on here is you see, I've realized for a long time that they set us up with generalities, and then they come back in and capture us on specificity. So what you've got to do to fight these guys is to get down and sharpen your thinking to their level. And, that helps you think clearer on everything because you're looking at real specific stuff. So it's a way we can gain from, undoing their diabolical deeds.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
How about that? Put the word yeah. Put the word of God in mental sod, and it'll work out. It'll work out in your mind, but you won't be sharp Yeah. Unless the thoughts of God, the sentences of God, the those are his thoughts, become your thoughts. Yep. And the sharpness and the power will begin to increase. Yeah. And that's and that's empowerment.
[03:01:06] Unknown:
And you can't do that without becoming empowered.
[03:01:09] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:01:10] Unknown:
Okay? Mhmm. So, Moe, if you're still there, we'll look forward to, having more conversation with you tomorrow. Brent, as always, a joy to spend a few hours with you on a weekly basis over all these many years and the things we both learned. Audience, love each and every one of you. Thanks for being here, and we'll see you tomorrow.
[03:01:32] Unknown:
Okay? May I? Thanks, Brent. Thank you for the wisdom of the elders.
[03:01:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Appreciate your We're we're certainly that. I get the gray beards. We're certainly the gray beards.
[03:01:45] Unknown:
Pleasure. Pleasure. Thank you.
[03:01:48] Unknown:
Thanks, Brent. We'll see you, buddy. Love you. Ciao ciao.
[03:01:59] Unknown:
Brent Winters, please. Real quick. Please, Brent. Brent.
[03:02:09] Unknown:
Too late.
[03:02:16] Unknown:
I wanted to catch him while it was fresh on his mind. Okay. Sorry. Thank you anyway.
[03:02:25] Unknown:
And that about does it Joe. For the Radio Ranch. Just a moment. Sherry, let let me, put the stream to bed here. That does it for the Radio Ranch Friday edition with Roger Sales and Brent Allen Winters. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is thematrixtalks.com, where you can find links to the Eurofolk and Global Voice Radio streams, as well as the links to the free conference call room so you can actually join us live on the show. Thank you so much for being with us. We'll catch you tomorrow for the Sabadeau edition at 11AM eastern on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
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Introduction and Hosts
Acknowledging Contributors
Challenges with Communication Technology
Discussion on Drug Trafficking
Political Climate and International Relations
Race and Religion in Society
Cultural and Religious Influences
Historical Context of Race and Religion
Wandering Jew Plant and Cultural References
Common Law and Legal Traditions
Nuremberg Trials and Legal Precedents
Due Process and Legal Rights
Patriotism and Loyalty to Land
Land Ownership and Biblical References
Bankruptcy and Sovereignty
Government and Financial Systems
Banking History and Practices
Property Taxes and Public Services
Naturalization and Citizenship
Marriage and Common Law Traditions