In this episode of the Radio Ranch, hosts Roger Sayles and Brent Winters, along with special guest Paul English, delve into a wide array of topics ranging from historical religious critiques to modern geopolitical tensions. The discussion kicks off with Brent Winters sharing insights on the historical figure Charles Haddon Spurgeon and his views on the papacy, highlighting the historical context of religious reform and its implications. The conversation then shifts to the concept of Antichrist, exploring its meaning and historical interpretations, particularly in relation to the papacy and other global powers.
As the show progresses, the hosts and guests engage in a lively discussion about the current geopolitical climate, including the potential for conflict between Europe and Russia, and the economic dynamics involving China and the United States. The episode also touches on the influence of global banking systems, with references to historical figures and modern-day economic predictions. The conversation is interspersed with anecdotes and historical references, providing a rich tapestry of insights into both past and present global issues.
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Man, coming in right under the wire on the program here today at the start. Morning, Paul, and audience. And it's the Friday edition, of course, the May 9. And, Roger Sales and Brent Winters, when he gets here, are your hosts. And, here we are at the Radio Ranch. I don't see Francine this morning. That's kinda unusual. Morning, Paul. Is there anybody there?
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Yeah. Yeah. I had I had turned my mic on. Boy, you had me worried for a second. Actually, we don't we don't we don't have anybody with us this morning. We have I know, man. Eurofolk and Global Voice Radio with us this morning. But, Yeah. WDRN productions and the Ned family of broadcast services is not here yet. Neither is Francine or, Brent.
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So Oh, everybody's sleeping in late this morning? Hell, I couldn't sleep last night. I was up in the middle of the night. Y'all are all sleeping in. What's going on? I slept eleven hours
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last night. Yeah. I said you have a I know
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that feels good. Well, good morning, miss Julie. You're effervescent this early. Everything alright?
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Well, did you watch the hockey game last night?
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Yes. I did.
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Yeah. I mean, the the ref missed so many calls that should've given Vegas power plays.
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Yeah. I went to bed as it went to overtime. I was trying to get sleep and then couldn't sleep. Woke up in the middle of the night and checked on the score in Edmonton. I heard the announcers say, the guys that do between intermissions, they're going, look. Edmonton may be hoisting the cup. They're they're looking like the best team in the whole
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day. Yeah. But they lost last night. It's still they just had, like, two power play two power plays they got robbed of.
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I know. But, you know, if, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, Julie. And, and, they they they didn't they didn't win. So Edmonton won in overtime, so maybe I'll carry their complaint to the league. So I guess we're just kinda just waiting on Brent. Is Brent gonna show up? I mean, I'm this Skype thing's got me about discombobulated. I go because Brent and I always exchange a message for the show on Friday morning. You know? Well, I said, good morning, Brent. Well, I hadn't heard back from him. I don't know if Skype's working that way or I so frustrated with Microsoft.
So, anyway
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Maybe he can upgrade to Teams.
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I I don't know which I was just sending him on a straight Skype thing, not a Teams thing. So I I just don't know. You know? Well I'm I'm disgusted at Skye at Microsoft. I could just shoot him, really. Okay.
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If Brent didn't upgrade to Teams, then he would have lost his contacts in Skype, and he wouldn't have received your message.
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If he didn't upgrade to Teams, Skype wouldn't have run with them and run with them unless he had If he had if he had some subscriptions, that's not true. If he had some money in who would send an IMs or whatever. Now I'm different. I'm out of the country. Okay? But if you've got some sort of a a money a a funding base with them, They're not supposed to do that. I don't I don't know. It's all very confusing to me, and I'm about PO'd about it. I just have to figure it out and, and change my routine. I am about to order a magicJack, which should cure the phone call thing. Mhmm. But, so, anyway, we'll see as we go forward. Just aggravating.
God. I just despise Microsoft. So, anyway, well, enough of that garbage. I'm sure I'm not the only one dancing around this little issue. Gosh. What else is happening? No Brent this morning, man. That's unusual. That's, highly unusual. So I don't know what's going on. You know? It could have been it could could be an emergency came up or whatever. You know? His, his parents his parents are both in their late nineties and still living, which is almost unbelievable, you know, in itself. So let's hope nothing serious has happened. Everything's alright, and he just can't find a Wi Fi spot or something to that effect. We'll see as we go through the show here this morning. Good morning to everybody.
So Paul's done his thing. How was the, how was the English show yesterday?
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Yeah. It was good. Yeah. Well, yeah, it was good. It was it was fun. So Mhmm.
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Nothing super substantial came out of it? I feel sorry for Paul and the Englishman over there. I mean, god, some of these countries are just going to hell in a handbasket. I mean, quick.
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K? Hey, Roger.
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Yes. Julie.
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You know how we were talking about Michael Milken?
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Yes. The junk bond king. Did you know
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that on May 5 that Elon Musk spoke at the Milken global conference, and he advocated for AI to replace government workers, citing the U. S. Government's inefficiency. And it was delivered during a closed door session with Michael Milken and they're saying this is reflecting a broader technocratic agenda, one that seeks to centralize power through technology. And it says, by examining the networks behind this event, including Milken Institute history, Musk's associates and their ties to figures like Jeffrey Epstein, a troubling picture emerges, a coordinated effort to normalize AI as a tool for governance at the expense of human agency and democratic oversight. Very interesting.
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Well, I'm sure some of that's coming in the future. There's no telling what this AI beast is gonna produce. I mean, at this point, I haven't had much interaction with it. I I don't play with chat GPT or Bruno or whatever, any of the other ones out there. But I can see from the little bit of exposure I've had to it with Paul reading, like, what the description of our shows is well, it's pretty startling to me. I could see that that's gonna be that that's gonna be the future and, that it certainly could take up some of these positions in government where these bureaucrats, all they do sit around and eat they're either watching porno or they're playing solitaire.
That's what I can tell.
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I mean,
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well, I mean, really. You know?
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You're on a roll. If my head falls, she'd be my uncle.
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Well, that's we use that occasionally around here.
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I've never heard of that before.
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God, can I just move to Ecuador and go hide? I mean, it's just the whole damn world's going into it's it's like crazy nuts. Crazy nuts. I haven't heard any update on whether Pakistan and India is gonna get us into World War three yet. I think they're begging to. Yeah. It's just unbelievable everywhere you look, you know. And you you may May I lady win the league? Yes. You you may in just a second, sweetie. You gotta hand it to Trump for I mean, you know, he's it's like a duck. Have you heard of this? Like, you're like a duck. You're cool, calm, and collected on top and paddle like hell underneath. That's what he's gotta be going through. Okay?
Linda, what do you got, sweet thing?
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Yes. Julie spoke on a subject that was very intriguing, and I sent her I sent Mark. I sent you. I sent Paul, George, Joe Lustica, and Sherry this, audio. And I'm sending it to Sheldon now as I speak. But I was hoping Paul said you didn't get it. I sent it at 02:05 in the morning. It's an audio chat, and it's about the trust realm expert, Todd Duell, d u e l l. And it's proof of the birth certificate trust and Americans quote, unquote legacy treasury account. And it's only twenty four minutes in length. And I find that this community should be aware of this, And it's dated 05/01/2025.
And, Julie, I called you today on your landline and your cell phone, and I asked if you had received it because Paul said he did not receive it. So I sent it to Paul, all by himself so that he can put it do his magic and,
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introduce it to our community in IEL. Well, I got up in the middle. Did you get it? I got in I I got up in the middle of the night. You're sending it under Jerry, somebody. Yeah. Jerry's my husband. Yes. Yes. Okay. So I did get that. Listen to just a smidgen of it and forwarded it to Julie and said, I think this is under your bailiwick here. You know, I'd like to uncover all this stuff for the audience. It's something to do with bonds and the treasury, and they say you can get money back and all that stuff.
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I I wish this guy about it in our trust class last night, Julie brought up. And, I says, oh, wow. This is very timely. And so I sent it to Julie, and I sent it to Mark Mays, Roger, Paul, George of, Idaho, Jill Mustika, Sherry. And, I just think that our community should be aware of this. It's twenty four minutes Yeah. In length. So, Cool. Well, good. Anything The other thing. The other thing,
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if I may Whatever you get back, I ought to get I think I ought to get 10%. Don't you, Linda?
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Sure. Why not? It's enough grapes to go around for everybody. But in my prayer prayer meeting this morning, one of our prayer, members, she sent a silver coin to, pay the tax, for her property tax and, you know, put a cover letter in and said this is to pay my property tax. And she sent it registered mail because, you know, a silver coin is is is, lawful lawful money. And they sent her the coin back. And so then she she sent them a letter with UCC 3Dash603 tender of payment. And it says in that particular section, because the UCC is their bible, and she said a pay a payment given and rejected is a debt paid. That's the.
Correct. And so, she she got her taxes paid without paying her taxes with federal reserve notes. I thought that was very intriguing, and I thought that was something that's going to be excuse me, dear?
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I was saying that's a pretty slick way to do it. And and Linda's exactly right. Under the UCC, a payment tendered and refused, is a payment, is a debt canceled, basically. So, that's true. Okay?
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So this may be a a slick way, Julie, in paying a mortgage debt, you know, that monthly bill that comes in the mail or a property tax. And, I haven't tried it yet, but, I'm gonna discuss it with my husband. But but, wow, this is a very cool methodology to use their scam to
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take care of their Well, that's their way. That's the best thing to do is to use their crap and just turn it right back on them. And, it sounds like you've made the decision to do it. Check with Hubby, see what he says, Jerry, and, let us know how it turns out. That might be something other folks in the audience here could try. Yeah. Boy, I hope I hope Brent's alright. I'm I this very unlike Brent. No communication. No show. Yes. Roger. Well, Fran you hear me? Francis.
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I hear you, Francine. You know? Francine. Uh-huh. Yes. I don't see that. Brent can't get in the reason why Brent can't get in is because I no longer have Skype. And so I Right. Couldn't send him the link, and he sent me a link, but it must be an old link because it says, that Paul Bieners' personal meeting room is in another meeting right now. So can somebody do you still have Skype, Roger?
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I well, I don't know. I sent him a message. I I sent him a message this morning. He didn't respond, which is highly unusual. We're all fighting this Skype battle, and I I don't. But Paul but Paul Beaner should and see if you can raise him, Paul. You His Skype may have been turned off as well. Mine I lost mine Monday morning. It's gone. If he didn't if he didn't convert to Teams or have a subscription, it may be lost.
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He has a subscription to Teams. I know he does. To Microsoft three sixty. So, anyway, he's sitting there waiting. He's he's communicating to me and found
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and telling me he's still waiting and what's going on. Alright. Well, we'll see if Paul can get him something. Otherwise, I'm dead in the water too. I, I'm I'm so mad at Microsoft. I could just spit nickels. I'll tell you that.
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I, I found I found Brent. Brent was offline on Skype, and I looked for him at the beginning of, like, the first five minutes of the show, and he wasn't there. But he just appeared, so I sent him the link.
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Oh, okay. Great.
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So Wonderful. Okay. Well, I don't see you. How are you talking? Did you dial in on the
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FCC? My screen?
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Yeah. Okay. Yes. I'm in FCC. Yes. Okay. So And you sound fabulous.
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Oh, good. You really do.
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Okay. There you go. Well, we'll wait for the professor, professor Brent to be here.
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Oh, what a mess. You sent you right now. You said, Paul?
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Yes. I sent it in the Skype.
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I sent you. Whoops. Oh my goodness.
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Let's get out of here. I'll send. Now I guess if you've got some subscriptions, whatever, you can go to the Skype website and use their Dialpad and whatever. You can still make calls or something. They want money, I think, to do that, though. What no. No. No. Not if you've got a subscription. See, I've got a I've got a annual subscription that runs until the June, where I call The US back.
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Yeah. I'm listening. Wrote back. No. It's no Skype. He said his Skype is dead.
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Okay. I'm going to give him It says he's online. It says he's active.
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We're talking about Microsoft here.
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Okay. I'm gonna send him to this link.
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Let me do that. I can find it. Shoot it to him an email or something, Franny. I hear it. Yes. I don't have
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I don't have the link, Roger.
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I can't even see. I have to go back here. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay.
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Hi. Let me go back to my new Alright. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Don't get excited. What, what address at common lawyer Com should I send the link to?
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In church is one of them. Hold on. I can drag that.
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Yeah. He doesn't open in church. He I don't know which one he opens. I I don't have his email address. I talked to him on Skype or
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Oh, he used to.
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Yeah. He used to. Let me let me go back to the matrix docs, and I'm gonna get that address and send that to him. Okay. Here we go. Let's get that. Brent Brent, let's see what
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good lord. Is everything messed up today? Let's see here. Sorry, audience. Bear with us. We'll be there in a minute.
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Okay. I just sent you I just sent you the Zoom link to in church, I n n c h u r c h, at common lawyer dot com. Got it. Okay. Let me go get You can grab the link from that email and then forward it to him and whatever medium you're using to, chat with him, and we'll get it done. You really need to bookmark bookmark or save that link somewhere. I mean, we knew Skype was gonna go away and all that. So
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well, I'll the only address I've got for Brent is in church,innchurch@at,uh, common lawyer dot com. It's the only address I've got for you email wise. That's what I sent it to.
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And now it says, no. Kitty, get down.
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We we got some turpentine for that kitty.
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I got it, Paul. She arrived. So hang on one second.
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Wham. Get back to Yeah. Well, audience, just hang in there.
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Alright.
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The, issues of great substance are right around the corner. Just hang in. I mean, great substance. Good lord. Oh, lordy. Bill Gate. I I tell you what, Bill Gates and anything he touches could just screw up the world. K? You're you're the latest. He's after Elon Musk. He's accusing Elon of killing 2,000,000,000 children now.
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Uh-huh. Yes.
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Shit. Right, Bill. Hi.
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And I I went to your Zoom call. So let's see if
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This he in?
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This has been a great show already. We started out with if my aunt had a bald, she'd be my uncle, and we moved right on to issues of great substance.
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That's right. And there wait a minute. Frannie just showed up here on the Zoom thing. She hasn't been there all of a sudden that Because I sent her the link. Auburn that Auburn hair. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Paul sent me the Auburn hair. He just And I see. Out of the black Zoom background. So
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Yeah. Let's see. Did he let me go back to my where is it? Here he is.
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What a Okay. He didn't he didn't he didn't he didn't respond. Look. I'm gonna call him, so I have to mute up. Okay.
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Okay. R. Okay, audience. Well, let's see. Oh, there's Mark. Is that Mark? I thought I heard r. Well, yes.
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You're good. Can you hear me?
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I hear you, but you're in a can. You just have Bluetooth.
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Is mobile. I've got you in my car with a bone. Bluetooth.
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Well, it's just not here. There's no reason for you to be operating properly because everything else is screwing up this morning if you haven't heard.
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Can you hear me?
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I can now.
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Can now. Alright. Alright. Well, it's it's not like we haven't been told about Skype going away for about three months. And, I know I notified people that were in my contact list, and not a single one of them replied saying that they were connected.
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I I think if you've got do you have any services on your Skype account? On account? Do you have sir? No. Do you have service? Okay. Well, that's why. No. If you got services like,
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I did this way before they they supposedly cut on Skype. Yeah. Right. So it wasn't like and I I updated to Teams And, you know, I haven't had any problems, and it looks like my Skype is still working because I updated the Teams. So I don't know. But I just, I I find it interesting that that in general, my experience has been most people don't do anything until they're cut off, and then they go scrambling.
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So
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I'm scrambling.
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Yeah. And then he goes screaming. Why isn't it working? Here.
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Okay. Well, Mark, welcome.
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I'm used to this kind of stuff.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah. Okay. And Brent joined us.
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Oh, is that right? The Yes. He did. Got him in in the door finally? Yeah. Got him in the door. Finally. Brent, are you there? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Okay. What an ordeal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. We we have serious echo. Mark, are you still unmuted?
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Somebody needs to mute. There we go. It's gone now. Fixed it. Okay? Thank you. Well, Brent, in the midst of all this commotion, good morning. Oh, hi. I sent you a message. I sent you the traditional GM, Brent, and I didn't see back from you. And I I don't know if you got that or not this morning.
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No. Uh-uh. Of course. I'm not on I'll talk to you about that later. But,
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thanks to miss Francine, we got on. And, apparently, Paul helped her, and she helped me. And so we're in. Well, anyway, it's good to be here. What have you been talking about, Roger? Well, we've been talking about Skype and trying to get you on the air and Oh. And and and and complaining about all this stuff. And, so that's it's it hadn't been much of a show so far, so you're coming in in a pretty good spot.
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Well, let me get straight some straight to some substance, if I may. You please. Now in the midst of all this madness, seems like it was yesterday that, the last pope died. That was yes seems yesterday to me. It wasn't that long ago. And now we got this one. He he decided to go up the flume, and so now we got a new one. All this hubbub, all this baloney.
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Did the last one die, or did he abdicate, or they kicked him all out so they could bring this Francis guy in? Oh, I don't know. I I and I don't pay attention. I don't give back. I know. I I shouldn't even ask you, but I'm sorry. I thought I'd I yeah. I got a lot of important things on my mind. Yeah. Pedophiles,
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but, I wanna read some quotes from recent church history about about the papacy and about Rome. And this particular quote comes from the man that's called the greatest preacher since Paul the Apostle. I think that's a nice way to just say something nice about him, but it's kind of silly because Paul the Apostle wasn't much of a preacher from what I can gather about him. He was, he he could write some good letters, and he was an influential man, and he was he's been indispensable. God has used him, but he I don't know that he was a great preacher, but this guy I'm quoting was truly a great preacher. I don't know that he knew what Paul knew. That's another matter. Paul was used to write the Bible, but, this man was a great preacher. Matter of fact, he spoke every Sunday to between six and ten thousand people at in London London, England during the last late eighteen hundreds and into the nineteen hundreds, the twentieth century.
And his name was Charles Haddon Spurgeon. And he Yes. Yes. Spurgeon became the spokesman for Christianity, above all people worldwide. And when after he would speak, within hours, his his sermons were telegraphed throughout the world, Sunday after Sunday. Now that doesn't make him right. It doesn't make him somebody to be venerated. It just makes him another preacher. But he was, influential. The man never went to school much at all. Never went to school much at all. But he was what we would call today self educated, and he read profusely.
And he's called the last of the Puritans, the last of the Puritans. And his ability to communicate and his voice had to have been had to have been suited to the job because he spoke to that many people in a day when there was no electronic microphones. And if you've got, six to 10,000 people in front of your voice when you speak, that many bodies will absorb what you say, and it will be hard to hear. But he was able to do that amazingly. I, of course, didn't hear him, but I have to conclude that he had a voice suited to the task. Well, I want to read to you what he said about the papacy.
And he's preaching. He was preaching, Matthew chapter two verse 11. It says, and when they come when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother and fell down and worshiped him. Allow me to read that again. That's from that's the nativity of our savior, Matthew two verse 11. And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down and worshiped him. And Spurgeon said this after reading this text. He said the old I'm I'm quoting quoting they called him Charlie in, you know, in London. Charlie. Yes, Charlie.
The old reformers used to say, here is the bone that sticks in the throat of the Romanist, and they can neither get it up nor down, for it does not say here, they saw Mary and the young child. No, no. The young child is put first. It says they came to see him. It does not say that they fell down and worshipped themMary and the child. If ever there was an opportunity for mariolatry, surely this was the one. When the child was yet newly born, and depended so much upon his mother, why did not the magi say, Avi Maria, and commence at once their mariolatry?
Ah, but these were wise men. They were not priests from Rome. Else, they might have done it. Let me read another quote here.
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That's quite revealing
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right there, Brent. Yeah. That's it. Yes. It is. And I I say the man never he wasn't educated formally, But the Bible doesn't require formal education
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No. It doesn't. Nor priesthood
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to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But this man, Spurgeon, proved himself over several decades to be a deep contemplator of his times and what the Bible says in applying it to his times. He said this also, You cannot make a sinner into a saint by killing him. You cannot make a sinner into a saint by killing him. He who does not live as a saint here will never live as a saint hereafter. When he says you cannot make a sinner into a saint by killing him, he's speaking of the sainting of martyrs. The sainting of martyrs. And it was true that by the by the third century, salvation was by martyrdom. That's what people believed by and large. By the second century, before that, people believed that salvation, safety from hell, was by baptism.
But that wasn't true in the first century. In the true sent first century, salvation was by trust alone in Jesus Christ without the works of the law without the works of the law. Nothing in my hand I bring, only to thy cross I cling. Other refuge have I none hangs my helpless soul on thee alone. Well that's that's the gospel. And everything else is a damnable lie from hell. That you can be a good person or do something to gain favor with God. You can't. Maybe I could look at a few other ones here. It gets more intense, but that was an opening one. Spurgeon lived from 1834 to 1892.
He was peculiar, and he remains highly influential even, of course, today. It wasn't that long ago. He was called the prince of preachers. He was a strong figure in what we call the reformed tradition. That's the puritanical and the the puritanical tradition, the Scottish Presbyterian tradition, the Dutch and German Reformed tradition. And he adhered to what's called the confession of 1689, which, of course, was a restatement in terse terms of what the Bible says. Listen to what, Spurgeon said, about Rome. Popery, he said, is contrary to Christ's gospel. It is the antichrist, and we have to pray against it.
It should be the daily prayer of every believer that antichrist might be hurled like a millstone into the flood. And for Jesus Christ, because it wounds Jesus Christ. The popery denies Jesus Christ of his glory because it puts sacramental efficacy in the place of his atonement. It lifts a piece of bread into the place of the savior at the mass and a few drops of water into the place of the Holy Spirit. It puts a more fallible man like ourselves up as vicar of Christ on earth. If we pray against Rome, the papacy, because we should pray because it is it is against Jesus Christ.
We shall love the persons through through though we hate their errors, we shall love their souls though we loathe and detest their dogmas. And so the breath of our prayers will be sweetened because we turn our faces toward Jesus Christ when we pray and not toward Mary. It is a bound and duty, he continues. It is a bound and duty of every Christian to pray against antichrist. And as to what antichrist is, no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery and the church of Rome, there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. If there were to be issued a hue and a cry for antichrist, we should certainly take up this church on suspicion, the church of Rome. And it would certainly not be let loose again.
For it is so exactly because excuse me. For it so exactly answers the description. Rome's idolatries are the scorn of reason and the abhorrence of faith. The inequities of her practice and the enormities of her doctrine almost surpass belief. Popery is as much the masterpiece of Satan as the gospel is the masterpiece of God. There can scarcely be imagined anything of devilish craftiness or satanic wickedness which could be compared with her. She is unparalleled as the queen of iniquity. That's from Charles Haddon Spurgeon on potpourri.
There are many others. The reformers that were, of course, replete with it. Luther and Calvin and Knox and others too numerous to mention point out that the pope of Rome is an antichrist. Now they said it a little stronger. I don't say the way they said. They said he was the antichrist. I don't and Spurgeon seems to take up that position. Well, clearly, clearly, he is antichrist. And the Bible says uses that word, Antichristos, four times, the first John, the epistle, and the second epistle of John, John the foreman of the 12 man jury that Jesus Christ empaneled to witness the evidence of his identity.
And John was the foreman, and John the apostle, is the only one that was not murdered for his verdict. He died in chains, slave labor on an assault mine on the Isle Of Patmos. And it was from there that God gave him that massive download that enabled him that he put on paper and he wrote as the book of Revelation. But John makes the point about antichrist four times. He says there are many antichrists among you. The Bible does not clearly say there is the antichrist. That's not there. That's an interpolation, an extrapolation from the idea that there is a be the beast, and, then the beast, people say, is the antichrist, but the Bible never says that. But it does say, let's know what we know for sure. It says there are many antichrists among you.
And if I may, Roger, I'll continue with this story about the experience of John Knox in Scotland and explaining and unpacking that Greek word of the Greek New Testament, Antichristos.
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Boy, roll on with it, please.
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Okay. I've told it often. Some of you have probably heard me tell it, but it's the story I like to use to explain what an antichrist is. Reformers said the pope of Rome is antichrist. The Lutherans today soften it up a little bit and say the pope of Rome or the office of Rome is the antichrist. The office of Rome. Well, both are true. Can't have one without the other, and whoever holds the office is an antichrist. Well, antichrist does not mean what we say in our English tongue, it means because we have transformed and changed in our English tongue, the Greek preposition anti.
It does mean some of what English says it means now and how we use it. But in the Greek tongue, it meant something a little more stabbing, although it did include our meaning in English. And, it didn't mean it didn't mean it doesn't mean in the New Testament against primarily, although it comes out being that. It means something, though, much more important. It means in place of Mhmm. Instead of. Right. It is the equivalent of the Latin preposition vicar. The pope calls himself the vicar of Jesus Christ. What does that mean? That means in place of, instead of. It's the same Latin root word as vice.
Vice president means in place of the president. It's a Latin word, not an English word. And vicar means in place of Jesus Christ. And the official doctrine of Rome is that the pope stands in the place of Jesus Christ on earth with all authority of Jesus Christ on earth, over all kings, all governments, all armies. I'm not I'm not quoting exactly the statement of Rome, but there's I'm paraphrasing it. It says that the pope, has authority and power to depose all governments on earth and command all armies on earth if he wants to according to their doctrine. Now he's done that, of course, in the past. Well, this story about Knox, I think, tells the story, and it provides a little bit of insight into our English speaking Christianity and our English speaking culture, of course.
All culture is religion externalized. All cult culture is religion externalized, and our experience as English speaking people with Christianity is our culture. And it's different than all the rest of the world in a lot of different ways. Even the continent of Europe, we often talk about the West. We're a product of the West. Well, those that are from the continent of Europe can say that, but those of us whose culture has come from Britain say much more. It's different than the continent of Europe. We're a common law culture, and that's a culture of religion, law, and government. The continent of Europe has spread throughout the year the world, the civil canon laws of Rome, Much different government and much different understanding. And remember, all religion stands under government someplace or religion has to stand under it. And all government is God's business. God's business, the true god, the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the god and father of our lord Jesus Christ.
Well, John Knox was from Scotland, and his nickname was Spider. That's what his friends called him, Spider. Well, the reason they called him Spider was because he was what we used to call when I was a boy back, well, at home in the Wabash Valley, a galoot. A galoot was a man who, when he walked, to exaggerate it, his knuckles would drag. He had long arms compared to the length of his the rest of his body, and John Knox was like that. And not only did he have long arms, his fingers complimented the length of his arms, and they were long and bony too. And so people called him spider because of his hands. His hands looked that way.
Well, he was a Roman priest and trained as a Roman priest, and that was no small matter in those days. Much stringent today, but it's much more than anywhere from seven to twenty years of higher education to be a a Roman priest. And he was. And he was well equipped. Matter of fact, he was one of the translators later on of the Geneva Bible. He knew the tongues of Latin, of course, during those seven to twenty years, however many he spent. He wasn't only he was allowed to speak and write only Latin. And it was the language, the hidden language of the secrets of Rome that the unwashed masses weren't allowed to know, of course. And well, he was edumacated is what I'm getting at. He wasn't like Charles Spurgeon. This guy had a lot of reading and writing under his belt.
Well, somehow, he got the idea through the early reformers in Scotland. A fellow by the name of, shucks his name escapes me. He was the first one, one of the first ones burned at the stake for preaching without a license.
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Wasn't Westcott or Hort, was it?
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No. Oh, George Wishart. It came to me right when you said that, Roger. And and because you said it, it came to me. It's funny how your brain works, but thanks. George Wishart. And George, would, preach anywhere he get a chance. They wouldn't let him preach in a church house, of course. Finally, they caught him, convicted him, and he was he was just a kind, giving man. And even when he was walking to the stake when they're getting ready to burn him, he took the change out of his pocket and gave it to the to the poor widow woman that was standing in line and wanted to wanted to pray for him.
He had to get what money he had left. Well, they burnt him up, put gunpowder bags around his neck. That was merciful in those days so that he would explode the gunpowder and kill you before he died slowly, I suppose. Well, George, was burned by a bishop named cardinal Beaton. What Rome did the people back in those days is so gruesome. It's hard to talk about. Now man wrote a book that became a bestseller back in those days called Chuck, somebody will tell me. I can't remember names this morning. It's not important, the names, but it was, a history of the markers of the church and right on right up to the present. And all these accounts, he he was meticulous. Pil Pilgrim's Progress?
No. But that was a bestseller. That was the other bestseller. This one, oh, somebody else put it in chat, and they know. It's so well known. It was a bestseller in England right along with Pilgrim's Progress. But, oh, Fox's Book of Martyrs. It came Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. A fellow named Fox. Now that wasn't the George Fox that was the founder of the Quakers. This was another fella. Yeah. Fox's Book of Martyrs. So we have the records of of those things as best as they can be procured going clear back to the beginning and bringing it right up through the parts of the reformation. Well, John Knox was George Wishart's bodyguard while he preached.
And the reason, they chose now Knox went from being this highfalutin priest to a man that held a claymore. A claymore. You know, we got a mine in America, make a mine called a claymore. That's an explosive device. Yep. Well, that was named after the Scottish claymore. The Scots called their big broadsword that cut both ways, a broadsword, they called that a claymore, which is in Scott's dialect means big sword. Big sword. The kind of sword that William Wallace carried. He carried a claim.
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Yeah.
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You could use it to make split personalities out of people. You can. Yeah. And and and, Wallace bragged or his people bragged on him. I know he said it. I can split a man like a fish to be broiled from the crown of his head right down through his crotch with one blow. And if you're six feet ten inches tall like he was, yeah, he's a big boy. You were a brute, and that's what he was. That's that's big today. Yeah. Larry Bird was six nine and a half to six between six nine and a half and six ten, to give you an idea. Yeah. And Larry well, there are men that are bigger than that, but Larry was a big one. But then add to that the just the brute, muscle.
Larry Bird was strong, but he was lean because he ran a lot. William Wallace was brutish and, from what we read about him. And he wasn't the brains of the operation like the movie presents him. That, you know, they they had a little tiny man, Mel Gibson, tiny man. They had him play, Willow Wallace. Well, it was the other way around. Then they had that great big red headed fellow that was supposed to be the brute that was always with, Mel Gibson. Well, it's just the other way around. The true story is there was a fellow named Archie. That was Archie. Archie Archibald was a great big no. Archibald was a little tiny fellow with a lot of brains. And Will William Wallace, a great big fellow, he was a brute.
But Archie was the brains of the operation. He was the one that he's always with Wallace. They'd stand outside the English castles and taunt the the men on the walls on the other side of the moat until they got mad and come out after them. But they, of course, didn't tell them they'd snuck out the night before, and the moats swam under the drawbridge and removed the bolts that held the other side on. You know? And then they'd put the drawbridge down and run out on the horses, and the drawbridge would would fall in the water with with the horses. That was Archie. He was the smart one in that in that operation.
Well, of course, took but it takes both. It takes brains and brawns. See? And so the team, Archie and Bill Wallace William Wallace was pretty good for what they were trying to do. Well, and Archie was behind the scenes kind of a guy. He, you know, wasn't up front. That's true. Well, at any rate, Knox, John Knox, being a glute with long arms, the Claymore suited his his physique. He had long arms and add that sword. He could reach keep people back. Isn't it something? Here the man's preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Kind man.
We had to have somebody in front of him in the bodyguard to keep people from killing him while he was trying to preach. But he he did it. He did it. And, he didn't get any bouquets. He only got brickbats. You know? That's the way it worked in them days. And, so he did that for a while after he he rejected popery. He said, the Bible is my pope. I have a paper pope now. That's final. The final arbiter of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal. By the way, Rome says no, the pope. Still, of course, the doctrine, the council of Trent. Go to the Internet and read it. He is the final arbiter of right and wrong. He is god on earth, just like Hitler and the emperor of Japan, and they run to the same the same legal code called the Canon's laws of wrong. Will.
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Go ahead. About we'll talk a little bit more about the new pope here in in a few minutes. Go on with your story. Give you a little background on this rascal.
[00:49:41] Unknown:
Okay. I'll get I'll get to the story here before the end of the hour, and then we can talk about whatever you think is important. So John Knox had that job, but but then the noose started to tighten, and they started burdening people at the stake. Rome did, of course, and cardinal Beaton was in charge in Scotland to burning people like Mary Queen or no, Mary. Bloody Mary, not Mary well, Mary Queen of Scots was bad too, but Bloody Mary burned 300, Bible translators and and protestants after she got into office. You know, today, they just burn the translation. They don't burn the translators that much. Thank god. But back then, they burned the translators that They thought that was a well, that was a capital crime according to her. Well, John Knox, the tight the noose tightened, and finally, the reformers, those that were faithful. I mean, the ones that believe the Bible were were reduced to an area of land around the castle on the coast of Scotland called Saint Andrew's Castle.
Remember Andrews Andrew was the he's one of the 12 man jury of Jesus Christ empaneled. Mhmm. That was the patron saint of the Roman system in Scotland. That's a Roman system,
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not a Christian system. I I think that's where they play the British Open every year. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Of course. Of course,
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golf, they say, was invented or it got popular in Scotland, knocking that little leather ball around a pasture field. You know? Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, any rate, leather back then. But, he they got got Andrews Saint Andrews Castle. Then they finally decided we better go in this castle and just stay there, and they were besieged in that castle on the coast. Well, they were thought they had, the the bible believers about stomped out. So the pope of Rome got word, and he commissioned the the the French fleet. He controlled France entirely. The French fleet to go over there and start bombarding that castle, which they did.
And it was coming down around their ears. But, the last Sunday they were there, they they ordained John Knox to be their chaplain. Well, he was excited about that because he had abandoned all that Roman baloney and his priesthood and the money and the beautiful clothing and all that. And, so he felt like, well, maybe finally I'll do something I'm trained to do. So his first sermon was to to unpack the meaning of antichrist. And here's what he said. He said, the Greek preposition, does not mean against primarily. It can result in that, but what it means is in place of.
Anybody who says, I am a God's ordained man in place of Jesus Christ down here on land within this realm. Maybe it's just a Pentecostal church or a a TV church or a Baptist church or or the pope of Rome or the bishop of the diocese of Chicago or Washington or Rome, whatever. I have all authority of Jesus Christ. I've heard Pentecostal preach and charismatic church people say this. We can't touch God's anointed, like the preacher's anointed is special, and that he's the final decider of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal within his bailiwick. That's antichrist.
It's someone who says, Adolf Hitler was an antichrist. He promoted the doctrine of Hegel. Hegel said the state is God walking on earth. Well, what does Rome say? The pope is in place of Jesus Christ down here on earth and in charge of everything. But there are limited limited versions of it, like Hitler was in Germany, like, the, emperor of Japan was in Japan under the same, Roman code. Japan was, by the way. All the communist countries are under that Roman code of Justinian of this of the sixth century. The church of Rome is under that code. The the Greek Orthodox Church of the East is under that code.
It's the ecclesiastic code that covers the goal of every country in the world except a few handful of common law countries. And even there, it's seeking inroads and always has. Admiralty law is a form of form of that code, in the spirit of that code, martial law. It's a martial kind of a law. Nothing wrong with admiral law applied on the seas. Nothing long wrong with martial law applied on fields of battle. But I'm just making the point. It's an ugly, tyrannical law applied anywhere else. It is a law of absolute dictatorship. And John Knox made that point. I wanna tell one other story, and then I'll quit about John Knox, one other point. Help you remember John Knox. Remember I said John Knox?
His nickname was the spider. And in those days in Scotland, back in the fifteen hundreds, there was a an insectologist, an insectologist in Scotland. And his name was doctor Muffet, m u f f e t, m u f e t. He was a Scotsman, and he was, they called him doctor Muffet because he was a, educated insectologist. And he had adopted a little girl, and, her nickname was miss Muffet. It wasn't his daughter, but, doctor Muffet called and his wife, they both called their little adopted daughter miss Muffet. And when he wrote that little poem about little miss Muffet sitting on a tuffet, that's a little milk and stool, that's Scotts for milk and stool, eating their curds and whey, that's pretty much cottage cheese, Along came a spider and sat down beside her and frightened miss Muffet away.
Well, that was a poem. It's about a political situation in Scotland at the time, of course, written like that so that he wouldn't get his head chopped off because Mary, queen of Scots, represents little miss Muffet. She was the little miss she was the little poor little rich girl that was being mistreated. See, little miss Muffet. And along came the spider, of course, that was his nickname, and he's the spider, and sat down beside her. And he did that. He had a meeting with her after she outlawed him. Nobody would touch him. Nobody would hurt him, so he had a meeting with her at Holyrood Castle. And he sat down with her and discussed matters of what they were gonna do in Scotland. She wanted him dead.
She cried like a baby Cried like a baby. I perceive that my my people obey you and not me and all that. And and he said, well, madam, I would that all of you and me and all of the people of Scotland would obey the lord Jesus Christ. Woah. Woah. Whine. Whine. Whine. And, well, she had later said that she feared she feared John Knox, the prayers of John Knox more than all the armies of Europe, and I believe it. I I don't believe she was talking hyperbole. I believe she was scared out of her wits. And as it turned out, she should have been because Knox had the upper hand finally. But after they captured Knox, the the castle fell. The French fleet put him on a warship as a galley slave. And for four and a half years, he wore an iron collar around his neck and was chained to an oar in a French warship.
And, after he got out of that experience, he didn't care anymore. He was gonna say what he was gonna say, and nobody matter what everybody did to him. And that's what analogous, analogous, not the same, but analogous to DJ Trump. After somebody puts a bullet past your head and through your ear, it changes your attitude. And by the time you're in your seventies and that happens, you probably don't care anymore. If you really think you're right, you're gonna do it no matter what. But John Knox was that way. Well, that's, just a little bit of story about potpourri and Roger. We're coming up the end of the hour.
[00:57:53] Unknown:
Well, then you need to tell the people that are about to leave us how to get more Brent Winters with all these wonderful stories and his great knowledge and depth of perspective.
[00:58:03] Unknown:
Oh, well, thank you, Roger. This is Brent, Brent Allen Winters, common lawyer dot com, common lawyer dot com. W w w dot common lawyer dot com. Go to the website. Take advantage of what is worthwhile there. If you think it is, you can listen to us on the radio on and on other platforms, seven days a week. You can find the links there to click on, to hear, or listen. You can also, procure procure books by yours truly, including, a translation of the Bible from the original tongues, the Koine Greek of the newer testament and the Hebrew and better make of the older testament books.
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textbook, 958 pages excellence of the common law concerning
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our law of the land with that other traditional religion law and government in the world, the law of the city, but Canon's civil law is wrong. Thank you, Roger.
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Yep. Paul,
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I see. Okay. I can ask. Oh, alright. Well, you can, proffer that invitation if you would, sir. Yeah. Okay. Well, Brent oh, now Paul's got something. Yes, sir? Speaking of quick comments,
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it, I noticed that, Brent mentioned the Scottish Claymore. Yeah. Those are those are serious serious, serious blades because I have one. 40 two inches long, two inches wide. Wow. Sharp on both sides. Oh, yeah. If you could lift it, you can swing it.
[01:01:28] Unknown:
What's that? Now here's a good question. Was Excalibur a a Claymore?
[01:01:33] Unknown:
I don't have a clue. I I don't know. I assume it was. Yeah. It probably was. You you
[01:01:39] Unknown:
mhmm. You know Excalibur was. If you don't, that's the sword that king author legend is legend has. It pulled out of the sword, out of the stone. There's a, casino out in Vegas named Excalibur. I know that. And, that's the name of the sword. It's got its own name. It's earned all through history. Brent, did you did you have anything else you wanted to add to miss Muffet and and John Knox? And I was I've heard that a number of times, of course, and it's still fascinating every time I hear it that that man and you kinda picture his description, you kinda picture him in your mind, and the power and influence that he had, not just because he had a Claymore.
[01:02:27] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Very cool. No. That I just I add those things I'll be upfront. I add those things to help people remember the story, but there are more important things there than that. The story is about the papacy and who they are and the struggle and the hundreds of thousands of people that were murdered so that we wouldn't be tied to that monstrous system called Rome. Rome is a monstrous system, and the chief vehicle of that monstrous system of the law of the city is the Roman what they call the Roman church. That's a fact. And why is it, I suppose, why is it that Rome, when the papacy gets a pass on pertinent everything?
Now I'm not saying they should or shouldn't. I'm just making a notice. It's hands off with those guys. Why do they get so much attention now after all that they've done, after all of the hatred, all of the murder, all of the slaughter, all of the things that they've done to do away with freedom? Do we forget that when Stephen Langton drafted Magna Carta, chief drafter, that he did it in Latin so that the Roman priesthood would readily read it? It was targeted to them. And when it was read to the pope, it was read to the pope, he immediately went postal almost, epileptic, and immediately excommunicated the drafters of Magna Carta, anybody who had anything to do with it.
Why? Because it mitigated Magna Carta mitigated against the canon civil laws of Rome. It is an expression of our common law of government, and one of many solid stepping stones of our common law tradition coming down through the centuries. It's not the beginning of it. But he said, no. This won't work. We can't have this. This will destroy our power, you see. And to read the history of the church, I'm not the greatest church historian in the world, but I've spent several decades always cognizant of it and looking at it and reading through it. And what you notice is that the papacy in Rome is a is a story of murder, avarice, greed, and military conquest, drugs, sex, sex, and more sex in every way you can imagine. Even reading were you gonna say something, Roger? I was just gonna say about what you said, so go right on, please. Oh, what is there? Sex, drugs, and rock and roll? That's the way we say it today, but that's all that the evil empire wants. They want to fill their lust of their
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bodies. There's there's just sex, drug, and Gregorian chants.
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Yeah. Yeah. Gregorian chants or just where in the Bible does any of this appear? No place. Where in history and where in the Bible does it even hint that Peter the apostle ever was in Rome? No place. Paul the apostle wrote a letter. The great expression of the gospel of God is the epistle to the Romans. It's a it's a an epistle that is purely doctrine, and it unpacks everything that can be known that God has revealed about his great gospel, and it does it systematically. It is a logician's dream. It is purely logic based upon a fact, of course, that's self proving in the first chapter. You'll read it. Fascinating.
But that epistle, when Paul gets to the end of it, he had never been to Rome. He didn't know anybody there. But he greets, I think the count in the last chapter is 20 persons by name. 20 persons that he had heard of, that he got wind of and his journeys, and he wrote to encourage them. No place in that list of 20 persons is Peter the apostle mentioned much much less alluded to. Now you would think that if Peter had been there, he'd have said something about him or if he if they knew him there, well, there might be say, well, maybe he hadn't got there yet. Well, then add to that that no place has it hinted that he ever did at all.
And yet they say there is this continuum of authority from Peter. And they say this also, and it's false. We gotta keep this thing going. They're making a lot of money. Where is all that, that, all that clothing they wear? Let's get back down to the bottom line. Does Jesus Christ or the Bible anywhere authorize all the vestiges? The only place that the vestiges, the Bible only mentions once, and it mentions it in relation to an evil demonic religion. Paul the Apostle says there there are wolves. Wolves could be among you in sheep's clothing. Wolves could be among you in sheep's clothing. What to what does he refer?
What have did Rome have any power then? Well, not the church hadn't been organized yet, had not come into its own, the Roman papacy. But the Roman papacy is a continuation of Babylonian religion. And all that stuff you see that you don't find in the Bible, those big hats and all the rituals, not in the Bible anywhere, All that stuff you see is from the courts of Babylon. Yep. That's easy to show. That's not difficult. And so when you see the fancy vestiges and when Paul says wolves in sheep's clothing, he's referring to Babylonian religion, which was prevalent, of course, in the Roman Empire. All religion that is not God's true religion, as James the apostle says in his book in the Bible, all religion is from Babylon. It's all different forms of the same smelly stuff.
And the wolves in sheep's clothing refers to the cowl. And in Babylonian religion, they called it the cowl, c o w l. Well, what's that? That's an ancient word for a sheepskin that lays on the shoulder of the Babylonish priest of all different religions. Priesthood priesthood, we call it munkery. Munkery exists in all false religions. Munkery. Is the word monk in the Bible someplace or any word we could translate monk? No, not at all. No place. The the only mention of munkery in history has to do with false Babylonian religion. And they wear on their you can see them now. They're much more fancy than a sheepskin. They got that little thing that hangs off their shoulders, hangs down almost their elbows.
It was anciently called the cowl. And when when, Paul the apostle mentions wolves in sheep's clothing, he's talking about a priesthood, a Babylonian priesthood. He didn't know of Rome the way we understand it today. It hadn't developed to that point, but it's nothing but Babylonianism. He knew about that. He was, the yellow haired boy of Babylonian Judaism. We call it Babylonian Judaism. Their main book, we call the Babylonian Talbot. Why? Because it's from Babylon. It's not the Bible. That's not what's important to them. Never has been. The final rule of faith and practice for them is Babylonianism as it is with Rome.
Now we say these things, and people have accused me, of course, on my other platform. Say, well, one guy came home one time. We're teaching through books of the Bible. When you go to the New Testament, everything in the New Testament is a slam against Babylonian Judaism. I mean, everything. You can go to every phrase and word where there's a criticism of some false practice. It's a criticism of what Paul the apostle knew best, and he was he was the upcoming man in that religion. And, of course, all the other writers of the New Testament were intimately familiar with it. So when they used examples of what is false, they were referring to Babylonian Judaism. I say this on the authority of many others, better versed than me, and, primarily, foremost among those upon whom I say this is an Anglican named Lightfoot, a commentator. He wrote a set of commentaries on every verse of the New Testament of the Bible showing that relationship. He was, he knew more about Babylonian Judaism than ever any rabbi ever thought of Noah. But why putting it together so that he could show that Babylonian Judaism, which is just Babylonian religion coming under many different labels, is the prototype of all false religions the Bible uses from the days of Esther forward forward when Babylonian Judaism, broke out and became the religion of, throughout all the nations of the world and continues to be so today.
Making proselytes, as Jesus Christ said, and circumventing the entire globe to make one proselyte. I'm quoting Jesus Christ. To make one proselyte, and when you make that proselyte, that's a follower. When you make that proselyte of Judaism, you make him twice the son of hell and yourselves. Now that's Jesus Christ speaking. I say to people, if you don't like Judaism, use the Bible to criticize it. Don't just criticize it because you want to and you're mad about it. No. No. Just quote Jesus Christ. If you go further than that, you're gonna get in trouble like the Nazis in Germany did. They they got in trouble because they carried it beyond what Christ carried it. Let's be wise about that. He's the captain.
He's our master. He's our general officer. He's our commander. We're under his authority. We should do what he says the way he says to do it. And if you're going to criticize any false religion religion, and they're all the same fundamentally, just under different labels with variations of particulars, Use the Bible to do it because that's what Jesus Christ did. And there's more than one label, by the way, but it's all the same. I could say Islam or the Islam, Babylonian Judaism, and and Romanism are the three biggies in the world today and have been for many centuries. And all three of those religions, so called religions, same religion under different labels, arose at the same time for the same reason and by the influence of the same man. And that man was an Islamic sage from the North Of Africa called Abyros.
Mhmm. Abyros. Well, Abyros, during that time in the Middle Ages discovered the writings of the ancient Greeks. Of course, they were Babylonian as well. Socrates, Plato, all those kind of people were Babylonian. And he discovered their writings. He said, hey. This is what this is what Islam needs to make it respectable. Logic. Logic. Reason. And the intricacies of the writing the writings of the Greek writers Socrates, Plato, Euripides, etcetera, etcetera. And so he did. And then they they developed in Islam a a group of men that were educated beyond their intelligence, like, in all of the scholasticism. We call it in the West, we call it scholasticism.
And they were the only ones allowed to interpret the Quran and the traveler and the other writings of Islam. Well, they still have them today. But he introduced it into Europe because in Spain, there were many Islamic people. They, of course, had invaded, remember, and were stopped in France at a place called Tours, militarily, and they didn't go any further. But in some in France and Spain, Islam was prevalent after the middle ages, and it spread up into there. And then a fella and two fellas in Europe, got a hold of the idea. You you did you realize that before Saint Tom or what's called Saint Thomas Aquinas, Thomas Aquinas and his writings, the Church of Rome says are the official doctrine of Rome. And then the foremost rabbi of all times, Mohammates, all three of those men were contemporaries, and all three of them took up the same doctrines, applied the the scholasticism.
Scholasticism is putting logic above fact. That's what scholasticism is fundamentally. Scholasticism is putting logic above fact, and that's what scholasticism does. The writings of Saint Thomas Aquinas do that. Thomism, we call it. The writings of Mohammadi that introduced it into and it it brought something into Christianity that Christianity didn't worry about. It didn't worry about logic as much as it worried about fact. Logic will take care of itself. You've heard me say this, those of you that listen to me. Logic is not what God wants us to focus on. Fact is what it wants us to focus on. And he says if you focus on fact, logic will take care of itself. It depends upon your discernment of the true fact because you've got to discern the right fact upon which to base your logic, or you'll never get to the your logic could be impeccable. Like, oh, you read Tom Aquinas.
You talk about impeccable logic and volumes of it. He's good. Also was Mahomedes and Averroes, the Islamic sage, and Mahomedes, the rabbi. Logic is impeccable. It's tight. It's perfect. Trouble is they start with the the wrong major premise, the wrong fact that they start with without proving that you can't have logic. You can't it's a great tool. It's a great tool, but it's worthless if you start base it upon the wrong fact. Yep. You have to base it upon a fact that you don't prove with logic. Go ahead, Roger. No. I was just agreeing with you, Brent. Sorry. It was feeding over. So, for example, the book of Romans is a logician's dream. It's beautiful. The logic is impeccable.
Paul the apostle was trained in it. He was trained in scholasticism. He knew logic. Of course, he flipped it the other way around. It's not logic above fact. He said, no. Wait a minute. I'm a Christian man now. I'm a follower of Jesus Christ. It's fact above logic. And our common law tradition is not about logic. It's about fact. It's about fact. I testify to you. And I've said this, Roger. I'll say it again. When somebody says and you hear them say, our problem is we're not training children to be critical thinkers, critical thinkers.
Logic. Run from people like that. People don't need to be taught critical thinking and logic. No, no. They need to be taught how to discern fact. And once you've got the right fact, you will, by nature, think. Now you've been doing it all your life. You may have had the wrong facts. You can't stop thinking. You're a you're a a son of Adam. That's the way God made us. That's what we do. We live by logic. God help us. We hope we have the right discernment of fact. Discernment's an important subject in the Bible. It is throughout Roger, go ahead. I said, oh, boy. Discernment's incredibly important. Yeah. And the the key word in the Old Testament for discernment, the key Hebrew word is kadosh.
Kadosh, and it's consistently translated holy or holiness. I'll get and there's a reason for that. The key word in the New Testament, hagios. It's a Greek word, hagios. And it's consistently translated holy or holiness. And the Latin Vulgate is translated sanctus or sanctify or sanctification. Those are Latin words, but what it means is, it's translated in the old English, holy. Well, what is holiness? Listen to me close, friends. Kadosh of the Old Testament. Hagios of the New Testament. English. Holy. Be ye holy, for I am holy. That's big stuff. The theme of the book of Leviticus is holiness. What is it?
If you missed this, you missed the big picture, you missed the fact of the matter. The fact of the matter is those words mean they signify the honed ability that's honed finer and finer and finer as you go through your Christian life, honed ability to to tell apart one thing from another, to look at a bunch of things and say, wait a minute. I see something near different in that item of all these things and something that others don't see. Have you ever noticed? The evil empire wants to obliterate all distinctions. There are no men and women. There are no there are no right and wrong religions.
There are no right and wrong opinions. We should not criticize anybody for what they are and what they say. There is no heaven or hell. There is no Christianity different than other religions, of course. They want to obliterate all that, all of it, and make everything uniform. Uniform. There are no distinctions. Holiness means you draw distinctions. You look at the book of Leviticus, what you will see, it'll say, you tell apart, you distinguish the holy from the unholy, the clean from the unclean, the man from the woman.
And I'm just touching touching the edges of the book of Leviticus, but the whole Bible, you could characterize it as a Bible that gives us the power and the ability and, through the Spirit of God, the discipline to discern facts. And if you can't do that to a fine distinction, or a finer and finer distinction, as you get better at it, it takes time. It takes exercise. It takes years. But you start with the new birth, because then you have the spirit of God that gives you the ability to start learning. And he will teach you to discern right from wrong, up and down. How many people did I see? And I watched when they came out and they said, oh, there's a, there's a virus and it's it's, born. If you put a diaper on your head, you won't get it. Or it'll it'll maybe help you to keep not getting it or something.
I looked at that and I'm not bragging. I'm just stating the facts of the matter. And I saw the whole world go mad and wanna get stabbed. I saw them do it. People who I thought had brains.
[01:20:28] Unknown:
Right. Educated.
[01:20:29] Unknown:
We're talking, Roger, you know, PhDs and stuff promoting this and believing it. I saw my friends doing it. And I said, I'm not the smartest man in the world. I grew up on the on the farm for crying out loud. I waited more Hogman than I did, education. And I said, these people are insane. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but I can see them. This is a lie. This is a lie. That's called discernment. You know, it's a lie. Now we're no. I'm not bragging. No. No. No. And there I've been fooled before plenty of times, and I continue to be fooled. Don't misunderstand me. But I'm fully convinced and confident after all these decades, I can see it, that the spirit of God is making finer and finer my dis my ability to distinguish fact from error.
And I do say it was clear to me. There are men and women. There are no third entities. It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. I can see that. And we need to get back to fundamentals here. There is right and wrong, heaven and hell, saint and ain't, black and white. And God has no gray areas in his mind. That's just another word gray areas or just another word for human ignorance. It's our job as Christian men and women to become better and better and better as was said of John Wycliffe. John Wycliffe, the first man to translate the Bible in English, is said as his life went on, he lived through the plague there in England when half the population died.
He survived. And a a whole lot of things were in flux in those days. They tried him for his life. And as all these things happened to him and men like John Knox, but a galley slave for four and a half years with an iron collar around his neck just covered with lice for four and a half years. Nothing but starving. When it all came out the other end, black was a lot blacker and white was a lot whiter, and the gray areas in his mind had shrunk quite a bit. You take the whooping. You get taken to the woodshed enough times, and more and more and more, your discernment becomes finer and finer and finer. And I I'm not even close to what I'm supposed to be, but I what I'm saying is I am fully confident, But I'm I got my nose headed in the right direction, called righteousness, right headedness.
And I wish that for other people that they'd be on that same road, and run as fast as you can from antichrist wherever you see them. Yeah. Latch on. Got it. The the bible yeah. Go ahead, Roger. Well, me, it was Joe. Joe, good morning.
[01:22:53] Unknown:
Hi, Joe. It's Ken.
[01:22:57] Unknown:
Oh, no. It's not. He doesn't come around here anymore.
[01:23:01] Unknown:
Oh, well, I drag my knuckles to the phone.
[01:23:04] Unknown:
Okay. Well, good to hear your voice. Sorry to get you confused with the the gentleman to the north of you there a little bit.
[01:23:12] Unknown:
Oh, it's okay. I've I've got Mojo. So you're halfway. Right?
[01:23:17] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:23:19] Unknown:
Boy, you covered so much territory. I, I have so many comments, but let me get back to one before you get too far from it. In Galatians chapter two, I believe it is, maybe also on three. It talks about how Peter is sent unto the circumcision and Paul to the uncircumcision. So there's no way that you could claim the, authority of Peter to run a universal church, just on that alone. So I've always found that amusing that they claim the authority of Peter to do what they do when it specifies that he's for that group only. And, and then, oh my gosh. You covered so much. Let me see if I should have taken some notes instead of counting on my ever aging synaptic gaps.
The gray area thing I've always found interesting because I used to get chastised by my father saying you you can't handle gray areas. Everything's black and white to you. And I always thought, shouldn't that be a compliment? I mean, I don't I didn't see it as a problem. But, getting back to the issue of of reformers and John
[01:24:51] Unknown:
Calvin Well, before you before you do, I'm going to wait. Wait. Before you do, I wanna insert something quickly, if I may. You made the mention you're you're young, black and white. And, it's been my experience, and I think I've seen it in others, that when people become Christians, they realize they've been born from above, things all of a sudden get black and white. And often they think they know everything. That's true. Just like a little boy thinks he's smarter than his father as he gets older, and then after he gets to be, he leaves home, he's surprised how much his father has learned in the last two or three years. And that's a quote from Sam Clemens. So, yeah, there is that when you're young. I think it can happen. You think things are black and white. I went through that. I thought I was pretty smart.
But then I discovered that I was wrongheaded at that point, and, the spirit of god slapped me down like a redheaded stepchild and then later on beat me like a rented mule. And, that helped,
[01:25:45] Unknown:
correct some of that. And I'm still going through that, of course. But go ahead with your you're still I was just gonna say, though, the world's a lot easier to navigate when you can break it down to black and white.
[01:25:55] Unknown:
It is, and God does that. Let's start with what God does in the book. He does break it. Yeah. He says this for example. He says, he who hath the Son of God hath life. And he who hath not the Son of God hath not life. And the wrath of God hangs as by a thread over him. That's black and white. And that's John the Apostle. And by the way, John the Apostle, in all of his writings, five writings of the New Testament, he's the black and white Apostle. Everything to him is either up or down, in or out, saint or ain't, and heaven or hell, etc.
And so when you start reading the Bible, it's my strong suggestion that you start with John's writings. And I would say start with first John. Five short chapters. Read them. And then go to the gospel. Read them. I like to say read them the five chapters of John every morning when your mind's fresh every day for thirty days. And then go to the gospel of John and divide it up. There's 21 chapters divided up into three sections of seven chapters each, and read seven chapters each day for thirty days, then go to the next seven chapters. He'll give you, he'll he'll give you John. Well, he's the jury foreman. So he comes out with his verdict. You know what verdicts?
Verdicts are up or down. It's either guilt or innocence. We don't ask the jurors to render their opinions about anything. We just say you got two choices, guilty or not guilty. That's it. And they do. Black and white. And that's it's John is John comes across that way, in or out, up or down. And so when you read him, it's a good place to start because he does give you what you can know and what you need to know in black and white as you begin this journey down the Jericho Road, as they say. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[01:27:43] Unknown:
Well, it's interesting because he's also mentioned in Galatians chapter two, as under the, circumcision or to excuse me, to the circumcision only and not the uncircumcision. So I think that's because of the the law perspective of those, under circumcision versus the, Pauline type gospel, not under the law. But that's I try to be brief, and I'd like to say more. But, you make so many points I wanna comment on. I can't get back. So I'll just try to stay on point. Regarding Calvin, I hear a lot of people, get distracted from reformed theology due to Calvin or Calvinism because of what he did. And I'm not making excuses for what he did. However, in light of the persecution of the Protestant faith and or, you know, the Waldenses and others who weren't technically Protestant, And, and burning at the stake and having their heads lopped off and, and tortured and mutilated and all of these things and millions of people.
It doesn't justify what Calvin did, but when you have somebody within your midst that is sabotaging what you're doing in that environment, I can see how somebody could make that mistake to do that, which again, I'm not justifying it. I'm trying to put it in the light so that people don't miss out on reformed theology because of that emotional distraction.
[01:29:49] Unknown:
It might be a good idea real quick. Yeah. Real quick. Just to say, what is reformed theology? And to put it bluntly, that's a fancy word that we talk about because we're a product of reformed theology in America. What is reformed theology? It's just what the Bible says instead of the pope. That's fundamentally the way it was looked at. And when you say, well, what the Bible says, that covers a lot of stuff that people tend to reject in their humanness. That's the truth, namely the bigness and the sovereignty of God in all things. Back to you.
[01:30:23] Unknown:
Absolutely, the sovereignty of God. And, well, it it you know, it it's hard to be really brief on that, but, you know, when you have the discussions of Armenianism and Pelagianism and and all of these isms, it it gets back to the truth of the gospel and our freedom in Christ and Christ as our king. And no man, no system, no, nothing in the horizontal realm. It's a vertical relationship. And we have direct access to the father through Christ and only through Christ and by Christ alone. Sola Christos. But I guess I'll leave it at that. You just you make so many comments, Brent. It's it's hard to keep up with them all and Yeah. Without taking notes. But thank you very much. And I I appreciate your, education on the in lieu of aspect of antichrist because so many people are, you know, trying to say, you know, it's Ronald Wilson Reagan or it's so and so and so and so, and and it's really more about, your relationship with Christ, and or a synthetic or fake version of access to God, but I yield.
[01:32:03] Unknown:
Good to hear your voice, Ken. It's been way too long. Another one of those old timers that drops back by every now and then. Come in.
[01:32:12] Unknown:
Yep. Paul, was that you? You wanna say something? Yeah. I take antichrist as not so much a person as a thing or an idol of sorts. It's not it's not just one guy. Okay? No. No. There can literally be as many antichrists as there are stars in the sky. You know? It's anything that goes against Christ or against God would be an antidote. Or in place of. In place of. Exactly.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. And and if if it's in place, if something's in place of Jesus Christ, it's against Christ. But the the key to the understanding this from from the biblical point of view and my studied opinion for what it's worth is to understand it in place of and understand that, he who the the antichrist is the one that comes along, and he he didn't say, I'm against Christ. He says, I'm here to help Jesus Christ. That's the the distinction that I think must be stressed. So the antichrist, the or or the beast, under that understanding of antichrist is not the antichrist.
Because the antichrist comes along and says, hey, man. I'm for Jesus Christ. He's the wolf in sheep's clothing. Mhmm. He's the angel of light that looks so beautiful and good. How could it not be Christian? He got a Christian label. He he wears pretty clothes. He's a member of a powerful, influential organization. That's the antichrist. And he says, I love Jesus Christ. How isn't it something when some big shot famous movie star or some famous football player says, I'm a Christian? Everybody flocks to them and says, wow. We need to hear what he's gonna say. And then he makes a lot he or she can make a lot of money, become very popular trying to teach the Bible and making comments like the pope of Rome. I mean, what does the pope of Rome ever say, but let's just all love each other and quit fighting? Has he ever said anything else? Of certain substance, no, that popes don't say anything. They just want that money to keep coming. The way to do that, they're chameleon. No matter where they are, they change. They morph. They allow other gods to come in, and you can see it all over the world. Right. Yeah. So it comes down to recognizing the one that says, hey. I'm I'm for Jesus Christ.
I'm not against him. Like Ahab said, hey. What what are you saying I don't worship you, God for? I I even named two of my children after him. You know? I use biblical names. That doesn't that make me a Christian? And the answer is no. You could be an antichrist playing a game. Yeah. Yeah. The apostates. We went over the apostates to the book of Jude. They are among you. They're they're they're praying. You ask them to pray. They pray beautiful prayers. The Pharisees said, Jesus Christ make beautiful long prayers standing on the street corners. Oh, they look they look look wonderful.
They are messengers, that look beautiful, and they're delivering snake oil and arsenic. That's what Jesus Christ said. Then that's what we do are watchful. Well, you know, some of some of these these more,
[01:35:29] Unknown:
oh, influential, charismatic individuals that, have huge churches, yet only open them to shelter homeless people because of an ice storm in Texas. They only opened them up after the, viral social media backlash because they locked the doors on those days so that people couldn't get in, Or they passed the offering plate asking you to dig deep because they don't have enough jet aircraft or their house isn't big enough or they need to expand the church to yet serve additional souls. Yes. There you go. There's there's Antichrist from front to back, and I'm not mentioning any names. I'm not. Of course not. I'm not mentioning any names.
[01:36:20] Unknown:
Ken, were you trying to chime in? I thought you did. Go go ahead. I got I think that I wanna talk about this part thing in a minute. So I I want a little time here at the end. Go go ahead, Keith. Okay.
[01:36:32] Unknown:
I think that there was an antichrist, but the antichrist could only be around when there was a temple. And so I think leading up to the destruction of the temple in seventy AD, not actually the destruction of the temple, but up to that point, there were several factions that were, had taken control of the Temple Mount and, had actually set themselves up in the temple. And, without I just don't have enough time to explain all that, but I think that is who the antichrist was when they desecrated the temple and then thus the destruction of the temple in 8070.
Trying to be so very brief, it's very difficult, but that's what I have to say. And, and, oh, and by the way, I did, I did guess that the pope was gonna be from Chicago. I thought that was You did? Very interesting. I yield. I did. Yeah.
[01:37:33] Unknown:
Well, I saw I was sitting here yesterday, and it was kinda cloudy and misty. I didn't feel like getting out. And so I was just watching, Alex there when it all started happening with the white smoke and all that stuff. There's certainly a big celebration there yesterday. I can tell you that. He is, if you don't know, from Chicago, but I heard they let the commentary run on whatever feed they were showing. And the commentators were talking, I guess, Catholic wise, a lot of the Catholics understand this probably more than us non Catholics, but everything changed in the sixties in the second something of Nicaea or whatever it was. And that's when
[01:38:19] Unknown:
Vatican two.
[01:38:21] Unknown:
Okay. Well, look who's there. And, what has happened is the the the guy that just died, the Argentinian, a couple of weeks before he died, this new cardinal was brought on, the guy that's the new pope. He set this up to continue the church's path that he had helped to go along with all the pedophilia and everything else that's the majority of the cardinals that elect the pope. And so this guy evidently was handpicked by Francis, walked in a a little bit ahead of time into the cardinal ship so he could become the pope. He spent a lot of time down here in South America in Peru, and with a sect of Jesuits down here.
And, so he's got a rotten background. It's probably gonna get worse than it was under Francis. That's what these people were saying. And, and he's only he he was born in '55, so he's gonna be there for a while. Welcome, Paul. How you doing, man?
[01:39:26] Unknown:
I'm just all giddy about potpourri. I know you are. Hey. It's so exciting, isn't it?
[01:39:33] Unknown:
Well, it sure was to a bunch of the people in that square yesterday.
[01:39:37] Unknown:
I know. They're just they all got dressed up. Isn't it lovely?
[01:39:41] Unknown:
But it may be potpourri, but it doesn't smell like flowers. That's for sure.
[01:39:48] Unknown:
Yes. They were happy for flowers and waving flags from every country in the world. And evidently, this new guy is going to move the church more towards China, and they put the American in because he was of the same ilk and to combat Trump. So we'll see where it's all gonna go. I don't know too much about it, from the Catholic side. I've only picked up stuff over the last few years. I was never around it when I was young. So, anyway, quite interesting. They were joyous, Paul. They were joyous.
[01:40:24] Unknown:
Hey. I got an idea. I got an idea. If they're gonna move move Catholics in the potpourri closer to China, maybe we should just help them start loading the boats right now.
[01:40:36] Unknown:
China's going evidently, he's going through some real hard times right now. They're even having riots. A lot of businesses closing. They keep orders are coming in, so they can't keep employees on full time, and they're putting them out on vacation. A lot of the factories with non high skilled labor are moving to India. There are a lot of real interesting factors going on in the world right now. Paul, I wish I'd known you were there, my friend. Right. I was always glad to have you. Yes, sir. Is that Ken again?
[01:41:10] Unknown:
Yes. I'd like to just my little take on it, is I call it AI, asymmetrical inquisition.
[01:41:23] Unknown:
I yield How clever. Do you have some clever folks around here?
[01:41:28] Unknown:
I was just sat here, Roger, listening to Brent's great exposition and stuff. It was great. Particularly the bit about C. H. Spurgeon. I've had his, I had his sermons on file for years. There's a mere 3,500 of them. Woah. Prolific. So if you think you can talk a bit, stand back. It's outrageous.
[01:41:49] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah. It's absolutely
[01:41:51] Unknown:
overwhelming. Yeah. You like to talk a bit, that lad.
[01:41:55] Unknown:
How are y'all doing over there these days?
[01:41:58] Unknown:
Oh, we're very happy, of course. Just as happy as we were last time, Roger. Okay. Good. It's, yeah, we've had, the big deal over here the last week has been a commemoration of VE Day, the May 8, victory in Europe Day. So, they've been flying Lancaster bombers over Buckingham Palace on Monday, just gone and things like that. And, Keir Starmer was lurking around all that trying to obviously align himself with some kind of national sentiment even though I don't think he even knows what the word sentiment means. He's he certainly doesn't know what the word sentient means because he's he's just a well, he's just a sort of strange thing, really. He's very, very odd. Yeah. He is. He's just, he's just odd.
[01:42:47] Unknown:
Yeah. He he makes the sign there. Right? He's an odd he's an odd duck. Isn't that what they say over there?
[01:42:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, yeah, or an odd egg or a bad egg or all that kind of stuff. He's He fits all of them. Yeah. But some of the discussions on the radio stations have been pretty good this week because of it and getting this sort of, take on what the normal common English working man and woman think about this. And it's, everybody's, thinks it's a, an event worth commemorating, and it is because it's about the end of a war. But there've also been a lot of people questioning, you know, the theme of what we were discussing yesterday and this, what what what is it we won exactly?
I'm sorry. Can you actually point out what it is that we won? I'm hard pressed to see where the fruits are from all this. In fact, of course, there's less than there's ever been. So and some good comments.
[01:43:40] Unknown:
Little clip this morning on Harrison. There was a hundred and one year old English gentleman that fought in World War one. Have you seen that? And just lamenting over what what the hell was I fighting for?
[01:43:53] Unknown:
Absolutely. Well, yeah, it's always a common theme. It's been shared by many people. You know? So, they they were fighting to, to obviously lose the nation to, let's just call it communism, basically. Yeah. I mean, that's really what happened Yep. Is that communism moved into Central Europe, because Winston Churchill had to do his master's bidding, and he was quite keen to do it anyway when he was sober. And, you know, a great orator, if you're into all that stylistic stuff and fine use of language, he's as good as you could find in any sort of place of that. There's no doubt. Unfortunately, he's batting for the wrong team, And he was playing for himself all the time. And, so a wretch in my book and, one of the worst curses that this nation's ever received. A terrible man.
And it's just finding ways to say that, kindly, you know, to most English people who understandably think he did a lot of good.
[01:44:47] Unknown:
I'm not one of them, for obvious reasons. I know. We were all all on the surface and rotten underneath. Do you think that operation Barbarossa, when Hitler sprung the invasion into Russia, that if he wouldn't have done that, that Stalin may have been able to take Europe over?
[01:45:08] Unknown:
Well, there's several books written to that effect, and they they tend to hold a lot of water the way I read them. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I mean, he said, not that we were talking about all the military stuff. I I'm sort of more interested on why the nation is so rotten since 1945, because this concerns, obviously, the people that are alive right now. And that's very important that they keep on getting irritated as far anything will do. Irritation, anger, it's all good as far as I'm concerned because it's part of the uncomfortable waking up process. But, I mean, with regard to that question, what are you supposed to do if this if there's six and a half million men sitting on the Polish border that just happened to be an army and a Russian one at that? I mean, it's got to move, doesn't it? I mean, if you think about it, I don't know how much it costs to feed and provide toilet facilities for six and a half million men every day, but it's not cheap, is it? No. And it moved all that manufacturing
[01:46:04] Unknown:
close to that to so that when they did pull the trigger on that, they'd have logistics where they could keep up and support everything. And as I can't go I understand it. Hitler, as he mowed them over because they weren't expecting it, he went over and took over their factories that they were planning to use against him. It was pretty smart move on, Adolf's part.
[01:46:26] Unknown:
It was. I guess, you know I mean, obviously, these military things can be discussed for a long time and no doubt will be. But I tend to the view that it gives it lends it lends weight to the argument that they were fighting a defensive war. Of course, it's not portrayed that way over here, understandably, because it doesn't suit the the narrative of the so called victors. We we're apparently a victor in all of this. So, and it's just like you're referring to that clip from that chap. You know, what is it exactly that we won? My nation's, a complete ruin, which it is in many ways. I mean, not in the people themselves, but in terms of the hierarchy and the power structures and what they think is important. It's not what the people ever thought was important, but, of course, we're never consulted.
That's there's nothing new about that. But, I mean, I think the best way to do it is just view your own situation. If you knew that the neighboring nation had six and a half million man army sitting on your border, and if it got moving towards you, you're likely to get wiped out, what would you do? And, I mean, the first question you ask is why is it there in the first place? What's he doing? Why does it need to be so damn big? Yeah. So, you know, I think these things have to be thought about a little bit. It's it's too easy to just paint everybody as good and bad, and, and it's not true in my book. I just can't see it that way. It doesn't make sense. You know, the whole event is a complete tragedy and was wholly avoidable, except, you know, I tend to side I was reading from it yesterday. I tend to side with, a section of the letter that Hermann Goring wrote from his prison cell in Nuremberg directly addressed to Churchill, where he basically says it's because of you and your stubborn obstinacy and the class of people that you ran with that would not leave Germany in peace.
But because they made this, as David Irving has pointed out, there are 37 letters of peace offerings that the Germans sent prior to hostilities that are sat in Kew Gardens military records office right now. But the British public don't know this. It's probably mentioned once or twice in the last eighty years. Everybody's familiar with Rudolf Hess coming over of his own volition Mhmm. A complete shock as I understand it to the German high command. They were appalled that he'd done such a thing, but he was desperate to avoid a war between our nations because it's, as it's proved to be, the Germans in their assessment of what would happen have been correct.
[01:48:49] Unknown:
Well, certainly As I look back on this and learn more, go along, get a piece here, piece there, Seems to me that the first real shot of World War two was the worldwide boycott on German goods. And that was done because Hitler you know this guy. I think he was, reading a different economist's work. And instead of going through the international, monetary channels, if you will, they were using basically barter between countries to avoid that. And that brought on the boycott. Am I right there, Paul, from your knowledge?
[01:49:28] Unknown:
I I think in very plain language, yes. I think that's certainly a key part. It wouldn't have been in the totality of all the reasons, I think. It's difficult to see through all the sort of propaganda that was whipped up, you know. That's how propaganda was conducted back then in a much more sort of dramatic fashion. Right. Because there were what did they have? Newspapers and radio. That's what you got back then. That's it. It's enough though. It was was certainly enough to get everybody revved up about things and to demonize that nation enough. But it's you know, from my perspective, most of the English huge numbers of the English are Saxons. Yeah. People forget this. We're actually brothers.
So, again, it's not, it's just that old story that it's those at supposedly the top of the human power centers that organize these things, and they never get touched by a bullet or anything much. No. And they wiped out you know, the idea of bombing women and children is obscene, and that was Churchill's great contribution to world warfare. Good lad, Top load.
[01:50:34] Unknown:
Sorry. Well, but I'm I know that boycott. If you sold any German goods in your store, the newspapers would not allow you to advertise. Didn't it start in Chicago, though, where the pope comes from? Well, it could have. It started in Chicago, I think. It might have. I just know some of the facts I picked up. Most people don't even know about the worldwide boycott on German goods. You know? And to me, that was the real that was the nucleus of it is economics. It's always the Tired of the, isn't it? The users. He was tired of the users controlling, yes, in a second. He was tired of the users controlling their government, their newspapers, their banks, everything just like they do today. Who who's got a comment?
[01:51:22] Unknown:
It's Ken again. I have a new theory that I'm working on. And, again, it's just a a theory, or should I say hypothesis? Anyhow, there's a lot of question about who the, Jesuits actually are, where they came from. And, based on that change in thinking and the fact that Hitler was a Catholic and he designed the SS, he modeled them after the Jesuits. And, since I only have a six second sound bite, I'm trying to make this as brief as possible, which is extremely difficult. So Hitler, was not blonde hair, blue eyed man. And so the short version is I think it was all set up to kill as many white men as possible.
Yep. Much more to say, but I think that's what it's all about.
[01:52:26] Unknown:
Well, you know, getting rich on Christians, killing Christians is good business.
[01:52:34] Unknown:
I tend to agree with that. I think it was probably even a ritual, sort of like a satanic ritual part of it. Yeah. Yeah. They do all these things, don't they, on their dates and stuff, and they say it's an accident or whatever. But,
[01:52:47] Unknown:
I heard the story of this guy that was involved with one of these big time corporations. And when they went to the board meetings, they always had an open chair at the end of the table.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
Yes. For the boss.
[01:53:04] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:53:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I think the Rothschilds is purportedly supposedly always had a place laid for him at at breakfast. Maybe more than breakfast. I don't know. So, you know, he would rock up and never would eat his bacon and eggs.
[01:53:20] Unknown:
What a waste. I was listening to your boy Stormer this week, Stormer, whatever his name is, with the with the trade deal they signed the other day. He's not mine. I don't really want him. Do you want him? Well, he's from your neck of the woods. Yeah. And, he was he did constantly call Trump Donald. Yes, Donald. I thought, oh, it was presumptuous.
[01:53:44] Unknown:
He's an elf. He's just he's an incredibly this is the guy that couldn't say the word hostages and said, let's go and save the sausages. You remember that? Right? You heard that sound? And then he couldn't say the Nobel pre Peace Prize. It was the mobile phone prize. I'm serious. It was just it's just gobbledygook. He's inept. He's just he's so he's so unaware of his own shortcomings that there's no way he could learn anything. I mean, he's just literally, he's like a goody two shoes in class. He's a box ticker when he passes exams. He's obviously not stupid per se, but he he lacks human qualities, which I thought were probably pretty important in in his field of work anyway.
And just to think he's probably the best of them. I'm serious. I mean, that's the
[01:54:32] Unknown:
World War
[01:54:34] Unknown:
point. Alright. Hold on. Brent, did Julie get right to you? To chime in, and maybe we'll let, the the lady talk. But, at some point, maybe after she makes a comment, I I wanna pose the question about, we've seen a great change in England, and Paul referenced that. And since World War two and I read history, and I I can see it too. Of course, I've lived some of it post war. I've watched the changes here and there, and I don't like what I'm seeing. And the question I pose is, what is what am I gonna do about it? What can I do? What should I do? What would God have me do? So we can maybe talk about that in a little bit, but,
[01:55:23] Unknown:
did somebody have a comment? Julie, what did you have, sweetie?
[01:55:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Just, I'm enjoying the conversation. Thank you. And I just heard some information about, you know, being spoken to about the Jesuits and everything. There's an incredible interview on ninoscorner.tv. I know I always help that, but it's between Nino and, Leo Zagami,
[01:55:49] Unknown:
this Italian. Oh, he's yeah. Oh, he's sharp. He was all over the country.
[01:55:54] Unknown:
This interview. It's unbelievable. He explains the black black pope, the black no no no no no no no. Bill no. Bill no. Bill no. Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill
[01:56:10] Unknown:
He said yesterday, of course, he was a little bit ruffled because this new guy took on pope Leo. And he was named Leo Vagami, was named after the previous Leo, the thirteenth, about a hundred years ago, who was evidently a very, very good pope and did a lot of social reform and a lot of stuff, and he was named after him. So he took a little bit of umbrage to that yesterday. Very he's evidently one of the more reliable go to subjects in on this in our in in The US.
[01:56:42] Unknown:
An old Yes. And he's incredible. So everybody I recommend go to Nino's Corner and go watch that interview because it's incredible. I yield. Yep. Thank you, Julie.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Thank you very much.
[01:56:53] Unknown:
Or somebody have something to say? Paul, please come back. Now talk to us. What what where were we? You were just gonna say something just then, I think.
[01:57:02] Unknown:
Well, that that last comment by Julie about Leo Zagami, I mean, he's he's been around quite a bit, and the the interviews are very good. So I might look that one up myself if I can get a little bit of time. I think I don't it's also worth making a reminder. I know we've mentioned it before here at times. The book by Tupper Saucie called Rumors of Evil. I I would say, you know, there's only a few books I would say. You ought to if you're really interested, you must read a book, but that's absolutely a must read. It's a very difficult read as well because each paragraph is crammed with so much information and sort of relating and stuff. But the the context for the book is, very arresting.
He descends from huger nose to source him, and he passed now early two thousand, I think it was, so he's no longer with us. No. And he's the guy that really came to fame from writing Miracle on Main Main Street, which was about the financial system. It was about the tax system. Yep. He was That's right. A tax protester and IRS came after him after that book. He said, bro, I knew him,
[01:58:07] Unknown:
Paul. I don't know if you know that or not. Not well. Well, I'm glad you knew him. That was great. I'm glad you knew him. That's great. And, I I saw that when he came through Atlanta and did the presentation on rulers of evil. I was at that. We had a mutual friend. And, this is something interesting he said. I was talking to him right before he died, actually, on trying to show him what we've got here with our fourteenth amendment and stuff. And, of course, his old premise is the Catholic church is behind all of it, which I can't dispute. Okay? And, but this is what he said. And he he stopped and said, no, Roger.
Don't you understand they can only rule evil?
[01:58:47] Unknown:
It's a it's a really arresting concept. It's it's so amazing book. It is amazing. Very profound, what I just told. It is.
[01:58:55] Unknown:
Okay. They can only rule evil. So, anyway, yeah, great man, Tupper. What, Julie?
[01:59:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I was gonna ask, Paul, was that book about, the part that was played by the Jesuits in promoting all the rebellions Yes. England in 1779?
[01:59:16] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:59:17] Unknown:
It's all about the Jesuits. It's about it's about the Jesuit order and, as its title says I mean, I think, you know, I'm remembering I'm sort of recalling from memory. In the intro or the foreword, he's talking about that how do you know, the question is, how does God restrain and contain evil? How do you do that? You have an evil force to deal with that. You use evil to constrain evil. And, Saucy gets very delighted by this when he's explaining it to a publisher. He says don't you see it's perfect. It just works out. It's all in scripture and this is what's going on. It's it is one of those books that I think will provide a few little revelatory insights as you go through it,
[02:00:00] Unknown:
slowly. I think I have the book. I think I have the book and I started it and I didn't finish it, but I doesn't he also make the argument that the faculty runs The United States foreign, all the foreign policy of The United States? Yeah. Yes. He does.
[02:00:13] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. I'm gonna have to go find that book. I think I have it on my computer. It's all hit it was just It's an amazing book. It's the only way it was published is a tabletop book, and his children still maintain that website, I believe. And you can purchase it in that format, but it's floating around on PDF on the web. You'll get it really worth the weed, the read, Julie. Well, he's got some stuff in there. I started it. I started it. I just didn't finish it. I gotta go find it. Thank you. He was quite a guy, you know. Well, let's we're about to cut off on the audience here. So, Brent, as always, thank you. If you wanna get more Brent winners, I'll do this for you. Commonlawyer.com. All kinds of stuff on there, and you can you can give donations and get incredible research books and all that stuff. And you can hear Brent pretty much here if we can get our Skype stuff or whatever straight every Friday. So and we're happy to have him. So thank you very much. We'll see you tomorrow.
Gosh. Now I forgot where I was going.
[02:01:15] Unknown:
Well, thank you, Roger and Paul. Thank you for chiming in, and we look forward to seeing you again or hearing you. I'm not seeing you. Always. Yep. You'll get to see the Yorkshire rose,
[02:01:26] Unknown:
at least.
[02:01:27] Unknown:
Well, you'll get to see the something.
[02:01:30] Unknown:
It is And we're trying to talk him into buying a webcam. Ah,
[02:01:36] Unknown:
yeah. I'm I'm out there begging for a webcam, you see. Oh, I I know.
[02:01:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I forgot. I was going somewhere. We closed off the show right there, but, of course, always tickled to death that Paul dropped by. And, the shows with Brent on Friday are well, they're just unique, and they're they're wonderful. And, he and I both get so much out of it, evidently, the audience too. And we really appreciate you taking the time to be with us on a regular basis, Brent. Be part of our big extended family here.
[02:02:11] Unknown:
Well, it seems that we're many of us here are got our nose pointed in a similar direction Right. Right. And, kindred of spirit. And this thing about Tupper Salsy is, extremely meaningful to me. I I have my buddy my buddy, represented him when when he went to prison. And, so I I got to know about him that way. By the way, he wrote a a famous song that was big on the charts for a long time. He won a Grammy. Yeah. Yeah. But here's what he says. And it's it it I think he has said many things, and you've mentioned some of them. But he was big on, visual aids to worship. Of course, being of Huguenot extraction, he thought that visual aids to worship are idolatry, and yours truly agrees with him 197%.
And he talks about that. Then he talks about the seals of the nations and the the sovereigns of this earth. And he says ultimately, what he says is these seals are the idol that give genuine authority to evil. And that's right. I took issue with him, but I'm but I'm not saying he's not right headed on things. I think he is. We all have disagreements, but I still think about that a lot. It's always been my conviction throughout my idea quickly and tersely and succinctly is that no man has a right to do wrong. Period.
And if I follow his point of view, he's saying that, evil men have genuine authority to do right. Now there's when I go to the Bible, I I I watch for this real close because of having read that book, and I'm seeing some obscurity there. God obviously allows evil. Now that's called permission. It's called license. Mhmm. Clearly, he could stop any of it. He wanted to, but he chooses not to for, obviously, to glorify himself. In the meanwhile, we're almost I don't wanna use the word pawns, but like Job in the book of Job, we're suffering the consequences of God always getting his glory no matter what. We don't deserve anything. We're sinners. We're worthy of death according to the Bible. That's not me saying it. We're worthy of death, yet he has he has taken care of us. Well, and he saved us from hell. No. No. Let me put it more succinctly about that. He didn't save us from hell, really. Ultimately, what god saved what Jesus Christ saves us from is himself.
Because the Bible says he is the one that hurls men into hell. That's quite a concept too. Well, coming back to topper topper, not topper, topper, sausage. The idea that god clearly, the bible teaches, allows men to do their evil. He he turns the devil himself loose. The devil himself reports to him and is subject to him. We learned that from the book of Job Job, the first chapters. But, still, I have trouble with this concept. Does does any man have a right, that is authority, that is jurisdiction, to do wrong? I'll leave it at that because I gotta run. I wish I could stay, but I'm sure the discussion,
[02:05:34] Unknown:
well, it could be lively here for a while. Sometimes it is. Yeah. Occasionally. It's probably gonna break up today because I'm starving too. But thank you, Brent, as always. I was just gonna tell Paul in the audience that how about Tupper's background. He was from Tampa because I had a caller one time that called into the show that had been in a band he had been in back when they were kids. And then he went up to Nashville and started an advertising agency, obviously quite bright. He was very successful at it. Was a songwriter and all that. As I said a minute ago, won a Grammy. That's no easy feat.
And then he stumbled into the tax movement and the article in every state's constitution where it says you can only pay taxes with gold and silver. And that's when they crossed swords, and that's where he wrote that book Miracle on Main Street that started everything. They convicted him of failure to file. He was supposed to turn himself in. He went on the lam. He got found a a a wealthy woman and married very, very well. And for ten years in an RV on the lam, traveled around the country. And that's when he researched all this stuff with the rulers of evil. He's really a good guy. Certainly sorry to see him pass, but I was privileged and honored to have that little interaction with him.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
Well, he also self self reported to prison. The judge said and he reported he couldn't let nobody let him in. He banged on the doors. He hung around for a long time. He couldn't get in, and he just finally left. That's what happened. Yeah. Went on the lam. Or ten years. If you won't take me, I'll just go.
[02:07:19] Unknown:
That's the government. They're not comfortable with that. There you go. Thank you, Brent. You're right. And, we'll see you. Thank you, Brent. Thank you. Oh, try and make this a little a little more seamless next week. So save that link. It's all a Skype fiasco, Paul.
[02:07:38] Unknown:
It's always all fun and games, isn't it? Oh, yes. It is. It's just it's so charming.
[02:07:43] Unknown:
Hello. So anything else going on? Did somebody have a question for Paul by any chance?
[02:07:49] Unknown:
Well, I have a question.
[02:07:52] Unknown:
This is Dan. Is the
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no. This is Chris from California.
[02:07:56] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Chris. Okay. Yeah.
[02:07:59] Unknown:
Yeah. What what is the what is the title of, of the book, Tucker Saucis book? Tupper Saucis? Rulers.
[02:08:06] Unknown:
Well, he had two. The first one was called Miracle on Main Street. It's about taxes. Yeah. The second one, the Rulers of Evil. Well worth acquiring and reading.
[02:08:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Is that saucy, s a u s I?
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No. S a u s e y? S s s a u s s s s a u s s double s e y.
[02:08:32] Unknown:
S a Yeah. S a u, double s, e y. Oh, double s e y. Yeah. Double s. The link for the archive book is in both chats in the conference call and in the Got it. Numeral two radio ranch dot chatango dot com.
[02:08:45] Unknown:
Thank you, Mer.
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And a bunch of other stuff that has been talking about. Good to hear everyone.
[02:08:52] Unknown:
Mhmm. Was it Julie who was saying earlier that she'd started to read it but couldn't finish it, oh, the first time? Yes. Well, I've lent my copy out to three people and it all came back with the same thing. I can't read it. Yeah. It was so funny. And then it was with a friend of mine for two years and I thought, oh, I need my copy and so I thought, oh, I'll buy another copy. So I went online, this is about four months ago and, I came across a copy to buy on Abe books for £650.
[02:09:24] Unknown:
Right.
[02:09:25] Unknown:
So if you've got a copy your quid's in. Or blind do it. Yes. I got him. So I called him up. I said, have you still got that book? He said, yes. I said, you looked after it. Okay. The dog's not been on it or anything. He said, no. It's fine. I said, good. Could you just bring it down to the pub next week? And then I told him, oh, right. Okay. There we go. And a good friend of ours, Chris, an elderly gentleman who's over, I said, Chris, have you got a copy of that? He said, yeah. I said, oh, you're a quidzin, mate. Because I only read the PDF anyway right now, but, yeah, nobody can get through it. I mean, the whole section's like on the Borgias occupying the the the pope becoming popes, all of this stuff.
[02:10:05] Unknown:
It's a labyrinthine reading, really. It's all these fast neck. Toasted stuff that back up everything he's saying, pull from the sources. I mean, it's just what's real tight and thorough. I'll tell you that.
[02:10:17] Unknown:
It is.
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Well worth reading.
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Mhmm.
[02:10:21] Unknown:
So, well, Paul, what's this? I we about video cameras and stuff that
[02:10:29] Unknown:
that I hear? I don't know. Paul's putting me up to it. It's terrible. Yeah. Every time I'm about to press the buy button, I go, do I really do I really want to do this? Is this wired? I'll threaten with not paying him if you want me to. Here's the deal.
[02:10:43] Unknown:
People prefer to actually watch the people that they're listening to. The theater of the mind thing is, like, so gone because they're they're all about entertain me with flashy things and get to the point. I only have, thirty second, attention span. So capitalize
[02:11:08] Unknown:
on that. Well, I'm sorry. Keep going probably.
[02:11:12] Unknown:
You see, we're boring old farts, Roger. We're stuck in a time walk. I don't really wanna come out of it either, but he's Paul's right because I've had all the same thoughts. You know? It's just Well, I just to see there, sit sit I don't have any backdrop, any of that fancy stuff, and you're just gonna sit there and watch me talk? Well, we are. If your linen's hanging up behind you, that'd be quite interesting. Yeah. Fine. Yes. Yes. That'd bring a human element to bay. It would Boy, would it. Blend atmosphere to proceedings, wouldn't it? Boy, good grief. Those really, your shorts. They really are.
You never get onto anything sensible. Yeah. Yeah. I I know. Stop talking about all that stuff. Let's see what's going on. You've got. Let's see if there's anybody in the audience that has any questions for Paul while he's with us here.
[02:11:58] Unknown:
We don't get to yak with him every day. So if you've never met Paul, wanna say hello, or have a question for him, now is your time.
[02:12:08] Unknown:
I think Well, I see Rumble. Rumble wouldn't let you, record over there yesterday. Right?
[02:12:16] Unknown:
No. It It's supposed to show up for ten seconds. I found out what went wrong with it. It's it threw, it threw some settings off internally, which are stable all the time. So it actually sent the feed to another channel, which it shouldn't have done. And I went and double checked. Anyway, it's all really rather boring technical stuff, but it's very frustrating.
[02:12:35] Unknown:
Oh, just that second channel you created?
[02:12:39] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's not even in as an option. It's actually killed off. I've killed it off. And it for some reason, it decided, oh, it's not dead. I'm just gonna send it there. So, yes, it was very frustrating. I actually found two and a quarter of but, of course, there was no one there because it's a dead channel. It's not it's rather boring technical stuff, but it drives me crazy.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
I can't stop. But at least now you have to go for fifteen minutes. I hate it. But but at least now you you can grab the complete archive that Rumble captured on the other channel and then upload it to your main channel.
[02:13:11] Unknown:
It's all good. I I I don't I know. I don't even need to do that. I I have another cunning plan. It's already done, actually. I did it this time. So I'll cunning plan. I have a I do have plan.
[02:13:22] Unknown:
I have a cunning plan. Listen. Listen to these voices. 10 times quick. Wanna see would we wanna see this? No. We wanna hear this. You don't wanna see that. That's distracting. Don't buy into the video. Thank you, Murrah. And yeah. And I'm resisting. And Tupper's first name was Frederick, by the way.
[02:13:42] Unknown:
Frederick. Well, I did not know that. I like Tupper better. That was a great name for him. I don't know if I've ever met anybody else named Tupper. And, I mean, I he was a really he was thin and not predominantly tall or short, about medium height. Thin, very, very pleasant to be around. Just nice guy.
[02:14:04] Unknown:
You know, very bright. What an You guys narrowly escaped having to call me p Gordon. My mother tried to name me p Gordon. And, a kindergarten teacher said, oh, no. You can't have a first initial as a as a name. He'll be ridiculed by everybody in the group and all that.
[02:14:25] Unknown:
She could It would have been the making of you, Paul, being ridiculed when you're young. It's hard, but it turns you into, you know, an abused child. You'd have been fine with it. Don't worry. You she could've just spelled it p e e. Mhmm. As in pea wing. Just leave.
[02:14:42] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. I'm feeling a little old about that too. Could've been on your methylene blue, and she could've called you a blue pee.
[02:14:50] Unknown:
Paul English.
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Yes. Hello.
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Hi. Hi. It's Julie again. I have a a question for you. Did you watch that interview on Rumble? The channel is Greg Hunter, USA Watchdog. He interviewed Martin Armstrong. Armstrong. Did you see Yes, Sandy. That happened to see that interview?
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Is it recent? I mean, I'm familiar Yes, Sandy. I follow Martin Armstrong, but I've not I I actually barely watch any videos at all. I just haven't got the time to sit down and watch. I I listen, but I can't watch because I'm doing other things. That's why I prefer audio. Last time.
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The chihuahua. Right. That's what we call. We call. We
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call him no We call him no Chihuahua. He's the chihuahua. The chihuahua.
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Do you know this word again? He had the he had Martin Armstrong, my last name. Listen. A lot of people listen to the podcast even if they are on video. So, you know, riding around, running around, whatever you're doing. But, yeah, I listened to that, and I'll post the links in there if you guys want. But why he's so accurate is the Socrates computer program. You probably all know that. And what did he predict for this year or did for this year, Pakistan
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and India going after it, and then that's what you're doing. Well, I also wanted to ask you, Paul English, one of the things he also predicted is war, between Europe and Russia because he basically said he was the one who was hired to go over there and help them with their euro. And when he was over there doing this, he kept on warning them that they needed to consolidate their debt and he didn't they didn't listen to him. He kept saying this will come come around to bite you in your rear end. In the future, if you don't do this now, they didn't listen to him. So now he's predicting also with his Socrates computer that, Europe's got to have a war with Russia. What are your thoughts on that?
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I think it's absolutely accurate. Sorry to step in in front of English, but let me also say Socrates has never been wrong. That's impressive. Go ahead, Paul.
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Well, I I it seems as though that of whatever you wanna call them, the buffoons at the top are intent on doing that. Europeans don't want to go to war. We're fed up of war being waged on us by the influx of millions of uninvited, unwanted, and incompatible, so called migrants. I mean, the thing about India and Pakistan, I was thinking, because they've just made a a decision over here. I don't know whether there'll be any Indians left in India. They're probably all gonna come to England where they can work for four years without paying any national insurance contributions.
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So No. Some of her is for Can some of her is for Canada. I'm telling you.
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Yeah. Well, it's just, you know, it's not every when you listen to the news pundits talk about it, they're always like, this is a terrible decision. I'm going, no. You're not you've got the wrong context. It's a great decision for them. All their decisions are for them. None of they don't work for you. And so the outrage is completely pointless, and no one will call it for what it is, which is warfare conducted through other means. That's what this is. And, not because they say so, but because it's literally that. We are not invited to communicate. We can't resolve our differences by communication. So they're just being resolved on our behalf no matter what we want. That's called war in my book, and that's what's being waged upon us.
And, you know, the Where are they? Some of the people they wheel on, they've had a couple of economics people or people talking about it. And there was some stupid bent on talk radio earlier this week. Some Irish lady who's just a goofball, I have no idea what she was, she was saying well Blackrock are coming over here to buy up some land that's good isn't it? I'm going people are clueless and the really scary thing is not that they're evil, it's that they're profoundly stupid. I mean, how do you deal with such levels of relentless stupidity? They don't understand anything.
And they really are people that have not had jobs literally in terms of most of the people in our gov so called government. They've never had a proper job. They don't understand anything about how human beings really work because they've lived their entire life in this sort of Westminster political bubble. Bizarre. Very dangerous. And, the peasants have got to revolt. There's no because if we don't, we we won't there won't be any peasants left. I mean, people are beginning to get it now that, some form of actions to be taken. Because everybody's being herded now in the political front to vote for reform, Nigel Farage's party. This is a complete waste of time. It's a lifeboat that's got holes in it already, and it won't work. It's just like all these other exit strategies that they build in, like pressure valve release points. It's nonsense, because none of them they're not addressing it either.
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They won't address it. Only have four or five members in this party?
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Maybe. I don't know. But they just they won loads of local council elections last Friday. Tons of them. Oh, I see. And, so which is an indicator of supposedly the mood of the country. The the problem is that there are certain topics that must be spoken about in an adult fashion. It's difficult to find an adult in there, and they certainly will not talk about these things. They will not talk about repatriation of all the people that are not British, and I mean all of them, personally. Of course, I'm not in charge, and I'd only last two minutes before I got shot. But this is the topic that is it's the number one topic.
In everybody's the they're going, well, this immigration thing is out of hand, but it's more than that. It's always been out of hand. It's been out of hand ever since we lost World War two. That's why all these threads come together. Ever since we lost World War two, the country's been wide open. It's got no defenses because it's governed by the very people that organized that war and not for our benefit.
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Yep. The bankers. The Jew bankers. Let's be let's be precise.
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And it's Well, we do. But we don't say that over here. And, actually, I found I know what you mean, Mur, but I don't use I don't I don't phrase it like that because it's actually more effective to not phrase it like that. Because what happens is that the listener will find that salient point out in their own good time. It's not important. If we make a carte blanche attack on the money power, that well, that's what I have to do over here anyway because it's, you know, it is the way it is. The inter international
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Can't say the word like any Just the money power. I just we just call it the money I call it the money power. That's it. And it's a it's a disease, and it's You can't even say it? I guess what? There's something going on now that's just really busting out over here and will probably spread worldwide. And that was somebody put up a sign. They pay you know, if they get a $500 bottle, booze, whatever, one of these Portnoy barstool joints. Right? So we got Portnoy's complaint now. So somebody put up a sign that says f the Jews. And, they're going after this, kid out of Temple University, Mohammed Khan. He goes by Mo Khan just because he put it up on his social media.
And, Dave Portnoy terrified him and said, oh, well, we'll take you to free trip to, he didn't even know it was in Poland. He thought it was in Germany, Auschwitz at first. But anyway, so we'll take you there straighten you out. Right? And, that way we won't dox you and all that stuff. But instead, they said they do that, but yet they started doxing them right away.
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Right away. I saw his rants the other day, Murr, from the first one where he was apoplectic and then subsequent ones. And he's taking these people out of his own pocket and flying them to Auschwitz.
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Yeah. Well, they turned it down. The guy turned it down. He realized what he's saying. I thought he'd accepted. Well, that's good. Nope. He's not going, and, everybody's sticking up for him. He's making a circuit on all the talk shows, Jake Shields, and Stu Peters. You know, so it's really getting out there. It's really getting legs. So, we can still stay it say it here, apparently, at least for a while. But Dave Portnoy is really showing his his colors, his true colors because he was going around acting apparently like he's assimilated. Alright? And, against cancel culture, Brianna wears the shirts with cancel culture on there, and he's canceling the culture.
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Isn't he a Jew? Is he a Jew or not?
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Yes. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Well, that explains the need for the action. Yeah. I mean, he was treated like royalty go around tasting taste testing all the pizzas and giving his opinion and all. It's just bizarre and then he's, of course, filthy rich and but this just he couldn't take this. This just set him off that some boy would It did. A Muslim Muslim Indian,
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apparently. Yep. He's Indian. Fighting fire and bartenders and waitresses and just he was he went he went like, a cycle like crap, as they say. He went through, like, crap through a goose. He got rid of everybody. Yeah. He's just he's just ruining everybody's
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lives. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought it was pretty jerky what I saw. There's gonna be pushback. Yeah. There's gonna be pushback. So it might come up come across the pond there, Paul. The boy, this whole issue is really heating up.
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I I've never, over all these years, seen the exposure that it's getting on on both sides. And the more they get exposed, the harder they push. And the harder they push, the more people get exposed to them. I mean, it is the classic They always they always overreach, Roger. And everybody They do. I know. Watch what I was gonna say. It's the classic snake eating its tail logo. I mean, you're seeing it right in front of your eyes.
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Somebody actually took a picture of something in the sky that looked like that. Very weird. Yeah. An hour of a rest.
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Yep. Yep. Yep.
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Well, my stomach is bothering me to just wanting some Good job we don't have a webcam. Good job you don't have a webcam. Thank goodness we don't. I wouldn't wanna look at that. I must admit Growl. Some drawbacks, aren't they? Yes. It says that I get very irritable and short. That's kinda You know, Brent, my last little comment. You know Brent mentioned he was you know, how how do I He was making a self referring questions. You know, how do I deal with all this kind of stuff? What do I do in it? And, I I it's right at the forefront of my mind and has been for months, really, all this stuff, because the sort of the news cycles, even the alternative news cycles, I don't think are particularly helpful.
I've not learned anything really substantially new for many years now that not because I'm not looking, but because I think once you've got a certain amount of information and you've got the blueprint of how things work, all you're really doing is adding more and more sort of decoration to this cake, and you're more up to date. But fundamentally, things don't really change. And the thing that keeps coming back to me all the time is that the response that we can make, that I think I can make anyway, to globalism, which is obviously communism with its new name tag, is, localism.
And it's localism that's the answer. And I think it's like on all the so called little things, we can be such a disruptive and tiresome force for them without putting normal people's noses out of joint. If you introduce people to the harder levels of information, such as the Jewish issue and so on and so forth, the conversion rate is about one in a million. It's it's just useless, basically. It is over here. There's no point. It's you know, you could be have the patience of a million saints. You might find one person that's gonna come on over. It's just very ineffective. But if you talk to people about the fact that their bills are going up and why can't they get in control of stuff, you've suddenly got a lot of people's ears and attention. And I think it's that's the low hanging fruit, and it it's we keep looking at or I'm looking at things like we have these parishes over here. There's about 15,000 still laid on the old maps. They're still structured. The Church of England is, of course, a pathetic joke. It's literally a wolf in sheep's clothing. Maybe it's even a sheep in sheep's clothing. It's that lame.
But, there are good still good people in it. They've got all these buildings around. They've got all these halls. They're not being used. There's a a local energy, revival is required and to get people away from, almost impossible, their so called smartphones and things like this. I'm not against smartphones. It's just most people just fall into that world and they end up sort of being driven crazy by fear porn. And it shuts down all these possibilities. People are not walking enough. This might sound glib but I mean it. They're not walking enough. They're not talking to another another people in real life enough. They're hammering the pubs over here making them the pubs are not what they used to be. They used to be extremely colorful communication spaces. Let's put it that way. Now they're all sort of eateries and they're rather tame and bland. But before, they were full of working men drinking pints shouting at one another. Fantastic. What fun. It was just great. And a few fights would break out, but it's life. You know? It's okay. Nobody really came to any substantial harm.
And, that's been chewed up. And when you were talking about that guy that's a hundred and one saying that, you know, that was the nation that he knew, a more lively, vigorous nation with local communication being the preeminent sort of space that people would participate in. And we've got to we've got to and I think we can revive it. It's just going to require a few sort of beacons or examples of this because even the alternative press over here, we have a newspaper and all this kind of stuff, if you read it you'll want to slit your wrists. Really, seriously people just oh this is happening. The banks are going to collapse. That's going to happen. It's going to be war, right? It becomes an addictive cycle. Hardly any of these things happen.
They are one day of course they're all going to happen then someone's going to turn around and go see I told you so. I'm going yeah but that was forty five years ago and during that time I've had 18 children and built a life, right? So in the end you're always everybody's going to be right but what do we want to do sort of now? So I think this I think the local approach for us is the response because we actually can do things at a local level. We can block councils. We can make their life unbearably painful so they give up. Nobody wants to work for them. That's what happens. So when these orders come down from high, we go, we're not having that. Booger off. We're not doing that. Yep. And and we need to build build that up like, literally, peasants on the ground. It's the time for peasants revolt two point o over here. It really is. Paul, there's an old saying here. I I imagine it's over there too. It's really accurate. That's why it's an old saying.
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All politics is local. And that's what we preach around here. See? Yep. Yeah. We I can separate you from the feds, but aren't you interested in participating on the local level? Because you can do everything you just said. You can go in and harass the hell out of them and and bring up all kinds of nasty stuff and rub their noses in it there at those council meetings. And they gotta let you talk. Okay? Mhmm. So, yeah. No. I I totally, agree with that. A %.
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Murr, I'm sorry I stepped on you. Sorry. Oh, no. I just wanted to say another thing Armstrong and Socrates came out with is, that, the dollar will not crash. It will keep being used. No. It's not gonna crash.
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Trump's got this thing saved. I'll tell you who's gonna crash, though, is China, and they're already in the process of it evidently.
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Oh, I stayed up real late so I could watch the, you know, May 9 over there in Russia. And the premier guest was Xi Jinping, and he looks really worn. And, apparently, you know, with all what's going on over there. There there's a there's a noodle shortage. He's not eating well. There's a noodle shortage in China. That's what it is. Well, he just looked worn, you know, and I I think, it was so much pressure and stuff, but I think it's kinda cool that Russia and China are together and really making it well known. You know? But he was right with Putin, and they're doing all their, you know, with the red roses and the Yeah. And the Yeah. All the military marches. Trade. Was it Brezhnek
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who was it in the the the Brezinski in the world chessboard? You said the worst thing we could do is drive China and Russia together? And what's the what we've done? Driven China and Russia together. And I think Just like you were saying about the Europe situation and the hutzpah and the drive and the absolute blinders that these people have on.
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Well, what what's that phrase? When things go bad, the bankers start wars. That's it. Yeah. That's all it is. That's it. So I'm looking forward to receiving a book called The Tower of Basel, B A S E L, which is the home of, the Bank of International Settlements. It should be with me any moment any day now, and I'm desperate looking forward to reading it. Oh, man. My thrilling reading for well Yeah. Because that bank that bank is very, very important. And, apparently, there's a lot of information. It's from a Hungarian journalist. It's very new. It's about four or five years old. Right. And, I'm keen because it can't be prosecuted.
It's impervious to any law in the world. Right. You can't We need to make it to
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ground with a way out. Their own passports. You can't serve papers, all that. Have you and I'll tell you, if you really wanna dig into that, it's not new. It's old. And in that book, the 31 speeches of congressman Louis t McFadden, one of those speeches is all about the BIS as they were founding it from the viewpoint of a former banker who was the head of the House of Representatives Banking Committee for fifteen, twenty years.
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I have a copy of that. No. I'm look docs.exposed to matrix.com.
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Yeah. So should you wanna do Louie team McFadden book. Yes. Yeah. The that's a source of information. On that, Paul. Thank you for that. If you could send me a link maybe on Teams afterwards, that would be great. I mean, when you talk about knowing exactly what went on in this period of time, will you read that book right there? I read it. I was under a little bit of a disability because I was brand new. And a lot of it is banker technical stuff, and I just read through it and never have gone back and reread it. But you're much more schooled, Paul, and you'll be able to pick that up a lot better than I was. Boy, it's a hell of a book right there.
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Hey, Paul. Yeah. Well, if yeah.
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Hey, Paul. English, have you read High Priests of Treason by, by Melvin Stamper?
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No. I haven't.
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It's a really good book. That's, that's fruits of a for Poisonous Tree Stamper, isn't it? Yep. Yes. Okay. Same guy. Okay.
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So, Paul, this is I've read so many books on banking. I'm I'm I'm so boring at parties. They go, what do you read? I go, have you read The Lost Science of Money by Stephen Zarlene. They go, no. I actually I met up with these people. They said, what books do you read? I'll I'll bring some out next week. I'll take these things. They're all about 1,500 pages, about four of them. They go, do you read this stuff? I'm going, yeah. And it's, I've just finished reading The Crisis of Civilization as Paul well knows by Hillel Belloc. It would be great to have a discussion with Brent about that because Bellock was a Catholic intellectual.
And, I thought Brent's points about that, let's call it that intellectualization that Catholicism has brought in, I completely agree with him on. And yet it's not possible for me to ignore this guy's stuff because it's so spot on with regards to certain things. And, of course, he's advocating for a return to the Catholic church. That's not something I could really countenance at all. But the points he makes from a historical perspective are fascinating, particularly when you take into account that Europe at one point was entirely Catholic prior to Henry the eighth, the whole of Europe, all of it. And so there was this one unified system, but he's very he's a very fair and good critic of the thing that he's championing as well. And one of the points he makes is that he said that although the reformation over here, was the explosive event that that in public brought it all into being, the fault lines had developed in the late thirteen hundreds. It took about a hundred and thirty years for them all to come through.
And some of the fault lines were indulgences, which people will be aware of where you paid money. Yeah. You paid my that was one area. It was all getting out of hand. Another one was mortuaries where you couldn't. These were fees that you paid when you died. And these fees started to build up. So you had to pay, obviously, someone to dig the hole and then build the coffin and then do the flowers and then say a prayer and then bring a it just went on and on. It just got out of hand. People couldn't afford to die. It was that expensive. They couldn't afford it. And, so it became like a business.
And that, you know, this is this is true. What I'm trying to do with Catholicism is try and view it in as even a handed away as I can. It's difficult. Broadly speaking, I I I think potpourri is a nonsense, and I think the points that Brent were making are pretty accurate. I wouldn't disagree with any of them. The, you know, they've the whole idea that this blog gets up and says, I am the vicar of Christ. I've read scriptures because, well, there's no what are you talking about? There's no there's not even a job advert for that. You've just created that for yourself. There's no advert for that at all. Sorry. That's nonsense. And that's where you know, that's where I leave it almost immediately. It's just daft.
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This creep that's been in there from Argentina just died. I don't want anything to do with him, and he ain't got nothing to do with my savior. And ain't in place of or anything else. That guy was totally evil as as a lot of those hierarchies over there. Are you you see it in their eyes. Mhmm. This new guy It just goes that way. Yeah. He you can't see it in him yet, but he'll probably develop into it as we go forward.
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Well, I think I agree. Possibly supposed to escape it? How Roger, how do you think they could escape it when they're in that nest? No one could. If you go into that, at some point, your number's up. I don't I have no idea how you do it. I mean, you know, like the fiction that if if we could get a few good men into politics, we could change the nation. We can't. It's impossible. It's never ever happened because they'll get killed. The only people that can turn it over are the peasants. The peasants have got to be come so uncompliant with anything. We consent to nothing that you do. Nothing. Okay. We'll see. Then they go, we've got no power over them. Then then we can get Well, see, that's what makes what we do here so damned important because we can accomplish that
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and have. And all we gotta do is spread it and get numbers. They're scared of us without the information we've got here. They're scared of us just as a bunch of dumb come country bumpkins. Why hell? What about if y'all get educated and then they have no power over you? Then they're real scared. So Mhmm. Anyway, by far we do right here, you know. I know. I know you do. It's great. It's wonderful. You hear these wonderful, bright, freedom loving people that we've, attracted here. And, I'm I'm just really pleased. And a lot of it's because of you, because you called me that day after, whoever whichever ex wife I was at.
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I've lost track, Paul. It's a good job you didn't have a webcam then.
[02:38:27] Unknown:
Yeah. And but this guy, Paul English, calls me. He goes, well, what what we gonna do? I said, well, I was gonna go over there to Spree Creek. Well, that's owned by the tribe, don't you know? And here we are all these years later. It's fantastic. I love the relationship. Finally, I found a a marriage that works, Paul.
[02:38:47] Unknown:
I'm worried. I'm worried, bro. Excuse me, Paul? I'm worried. You're you're gonna end the show on a rather sour note here. Yes, Paul. Paul.
[02:38:55] Unknown:
No. No. Actually, we're we're in the after show right now. I'm still streaming, but we're in the after show. Signal, Alright. Not signal. Teams locked up on me, so I wasn't able to send you the link. However, I did drop it in the chat in Zoom,
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the link for that to book. Thank you very much. Good to book.
[02:39:16] Unknown:
Speaking of books, I just got one today. John Wilkins, the secret history of the yeah. The secret history of the American empire, the truth about economic hitman, Jekylls, and how to change the world. Now is this a notebook he's got out, or is this the only No. It's just a just another one that he has, and if you don't buy it right, it it'll cost you a couple hundred bucks. But, I've I've found a copy I could afford. So Okay. All good. Cool beans. Interesting that Perkins was never, hunted down, wasn't it? And he walks free. Anyway Very interesting. What I wanted to say here is I found a YouTube audio book
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of the Tower Of Basil, the shadowy history of the secret bank that runs the world, and it's, ten and a half hours. Really? So it's inborn. I'll Yeah.
[02:40:08] Unknown:
Well, if it's if it's one of those robot voices, it will be all mind you, the modern ones are amazing.
[02:40:14] Unknown:
The new voices Yeah. Are absolutely stunning. But like you say and they read everything. They read the punctuation and everything, and it gets a little I know.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
I know. And I think reading is actually really good, particularly with long format things. It's a different experience than reading, you know, the Blizzard of Fear Porn and all the news updates because you have to sit down. Usually, for me well, absolutely, I must have tea with it. And I get time to stop every fifteen minutes and kinda really fully digest what I've just read through, and then we go on to the next chunk. And I it's a very good way to sort of acquire things and distill it. It's done in a Yeah. It's done in an English accent, you might like. Oh, dear. Those them that lot. Yes. Okay. Okay. Well, I might do. Yeah.
We're gonna have a a I think I'll do an audio book of all of, Spurgeon's, sermons. Only three and a half thousand. Average length, 10 pages. So it's 35,000 pages. I mean, how hard would that be to do? It only took me about twenty years to do it. He must have been a hell of a guy, that Spurgeon guy.
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I've got a lunch appointment here in about twenty minutes. And so as I'm going to go to grudgingly as I hate to leave, I'm gonna have to to meet other obligations. As they say, Paul, just always a pleasure to have you come over and visit with us, and you need to Nice to be here. A total open Yeah. Loved it. Open invitation. And, you haven't had any communication with John Smith, have you?
[02:41:41] Unknown:
No. I haven't. I've got all sorts of other people buzzing around me. I'm talking to people about, trusts over here who have got some extremely sharp ideas, ex solicitors and the like, who are looking at trust because, I've got we have this situation where farmers are being hammered Okay. Over a thing called inheritance tax. Oh, yeah. A topic that Belloc talks about great. He said if if they do away with inheritance, in other words, if you can't have it, he said you're finished. Yeah. And, of course, they're nibbling away at it all the time. You're literally Oh. You know, I I finally understood what a that we are proletariats. Proletariats are people that don't own much, if anything, and are dependent upon a wage. And he talks about the fact that the rise of the proletariat, I. E. Numerically, is very dangerous for any civilization.
Very. And it's because it's easily taken advantage of, and it creates all sorts as we know. So Branch revolution. Maybe prole to another, Roger, unless you're a multimillionaire. It's probably time for me to say goodbye. But, yeah, the the farmers need trusts. They can defend themselves. But yet again, it's lack of knowledge and education and opportunity, I think. So If Trump keeps pushing, we get that spot price of gold up to $40.50 grand.
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I may reside in that area. Whilst look. My last comment whilst we're on gold, I had this on the flip. Yeah. Let me finish that. If that happens, it ain't gonna be fun because the rest of the world's gonna be real screwed up. Go ahead.
[02:43:08] Unknown:
There's an interview I can't remember his name now. It was oh, what's her name? She does a lot of interviews. I'm not necessarily a fan, but I just saw this clip about Gold. It's from a few weeks ago. Mhmm. Here, he's a guy that's very high up in central banking, but is communicating as if he's batting for the common man. So we'll let him. Is it Richard? No. No. He's a a Belgian extraction or something. Great English and everything. Very bright guy. Built sort of restructured economies for all sorts of countries and things like this. He knows what he's talking about. He's talking about The Philippines and gold. Now, we're probably aware of The Philippines and the gold at the end of World War two where there's bucket loads of it. I've heard a lot of stories.
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Mhmm.
[02:43:52] Unknown:
Tons of it. That's why Marcos came to prominence in the seventies and, his wife and all her shoes. That's the bit I remember as a teenager. Imelda's shoes. Oh, what's a lot of shoes she'd got? This was all they talked about. It's very important to talk about the shoes. Yeah. It was to do that that part of it is to do with the fact that Japan seeking to win the peace afterwards couldn't get back to Japan with all this gold that it got from China and elsewhere, a lot of it, because, a lot of American submarines were floating around there in the water, and they thought we're never gonna get back. So they stopped off at The Philippines and unloaded a lot of this gold in about a 10 mines.
And this activity was observed by the OSS, you know, the forerunner of the CIA, who did not report this back to government headquarters because they then made use of that gold to fund their, let's call it black ops, I suppose, for a long time. Explo exploits. That's right. So that's a lot of gold. But this guy's talking about something in addition to that. There are something like 7,000 Philippine islands or four to 7,000. It's thousands of them, anyway. There's a lot of islands. And they all got their own sort of tribal little systems, and they're all unified in some way. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about The Philippines. You know they have satellites that can effectively scan what's in the ground and detect metal and all this kind of stuff. Correct. Okay.
So he's talking to her, and the name might jump into my head at some point. You'll you'll recognize the name if I can think of it, and I can't right now. And, he's he says to her, do you know how much gold they've found in The Philippines? She said, no. She said, you've not and he he quotes from a letter he'd written to a central banker with a number on it. He said, it's not tens of thousands of tons, it's billions of tons of gold in The Philippines. Billions. Mhmm. And so they then have this excuse that, well, they could refloat the whole economy. And I'm going, no, they couldn't. It's got nothing to do. They couldn't. They forget about the men with guns.
They forget about the men with guns. You know, it's a bit like sorry.
[02:45:59] Unknown:
I I just don't think there's that much gold in the world.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
No. That's what you've been led to believe. I I probably do, actually. I think I do believe that. I know that you remember you remember Kurt Adenauer, the head of he was the prime minister of Austria. Right. Well, after World War two, he was involved in gold big time because he was high up, and I remember seeing records then. You're told there's about a 20,000 tons in the world. This is nonsense. It's just a controlled market like diamonds. Yeah. There's tons of it. There's absolutely tons of it. People have been mining it, and it doesn't disappear for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years. Really? You know, people have been very keen on this stuff. May I? They've been very keen on this stuff. You can make diamonds out of people, and they do. Go ahead. Paul? Paul? Yeah.
[02:46:46] Unknown:
I'm so excited you mentioned that because I talked to princess Elizabeth Rodriguez Ruiz Marcos. She is, that is her father, Ferdinand, and she has confirmed with me that Doctor. Jose Rizal, he used to stay at the Vatican, and due to corruption he went back to The Philippines. His father was Prince Tabano, who was a twin of Queen Victoria. He set up a trust fund called the Global Debt Facility Trust Account. It has 750,000 tons of gold in it, and it was set aside. And it is available all the gold of humanity has been placed into that trust fund, and it's available to all countries in this world. It's part of the global currency reset is my understanding.
[02:47:39] Unknown:
Something's brewing, isn't it? Something's brewing. I I get my cynicism about these things is nothing to do with the amount of gold or anything like that. It's to do with those agencies that say, well, we'll regulate the market for you. We'll do you all a favor. We'll protect you. No. No. And they are obviously the great robbers. It's a great just like government. It's just a protection racket. And violence and force and threats and intimidation are always part of the deal. So it's whether you can find a group of men irrespective of how much gold they've got that can be defended for long enough to identify this criminal setup, which is extensive. But the thing is it's always recruiting because there's always new people coming onto the scene in their early twenties who are completely bent as a 9 bob note, and we'll go for it. So it's nothing new there. But, it is God's money, gold. It is. So I suspect there will be sufficient enough of it around, you know. So it's just whether we can come up with a system where we can behave well enough with one another to use it. That's the big challenge. There you go. That's treasure in heaven. Don't need to worry about it here, really. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. It's not about down here.
[02:48:44] Unknown:
But it's just energy. It's energy. You can be used to it for good purposes or bad purposes. We use it for good. Hey, Paul?
[02:48:52] Unknown:
I think as long as the Bank of International Settlements is alive and around with total immunity, you know, they stole all of the Nazi gold and all that stuff. I think as long as they exist, they need to go. That is just such an evil organization. They're just you can't like you said, you can't touch them. Have you They can do whatever they want. It's lawlessness there. And until they're gone, we've got our, we got our work ahead of us. We gotta up road up no battle is my opinion.
[02:49:19] Unknown:
I agree. Time
[02:49:21] Unknown:
to go into Basel Three and what this part is definitely We'll do that next time. Roger, I'll come back in a couple of weeks. But I'll come back after I've read that book. So as soon as it's arrived, I'll be through it in a few days, and we can do that. But I've gotta go too. So I've gotta go. I've got some vitamin B and B and B and B and B.
[02:49:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Check check out Catherine Austin. Fitz with the copper copper Carlson.
[02:49:42] Unknown:
Yeah. He's
[02:49:43] Unknown:
excellent. It's very good. Yeah. He sent it to me. Yeah. But what she what she says is basil is sovereign has sovereign immunity. Everything that is being told us now is lies. Just pure lies about the money, about everything. So we got that.
[02:49:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Have you seen that picture of that guy that runs BIS? Jabba the Hutt is what I call him. Have you seen that place? He's he's he's he's He likes pies. He must he must weigh four hundred plus pounds. I'm not So he he's part of the answers to the eternal question, who ate all the pies? Yeah. Well, he could be. He's a suspect. It's him. I promise you. It's him. Okay. I'll see you in a couple of weeks, Paul. Kids, I'll see you tomorrow. Yes, Samuel?
[02:50:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna throw something positive in before y'all leave. And I mentioned it probably two years ago, but, I I needed a little uplift yesterday. And I I watched, the, story of Arthur blessed and, the cross, it's called. And this is a guy live in all of the world. Two and a half. Yeah. He's got a lot of miles. But his story is such an uplifting story and a beautiful story. It is. Regardless Yeah. Regardless, you know, of any everything else, we still got that going for us. So Yeah. Very cool. Thank you, Samuel.
[02:51:04] Unknown:
I'll, see y'all tomorrow, Paul. Love you. Thanks for dropping by, and we will look forward to our next visit from Abduak and the night visitors of the East.
[02:51:15] Unknown:
Yep. Cool. You, buddy. Take care. Catch you all later. Yep. Bye for now. Bye bye.
[02:51:22] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. It's Bruce.
[02:51:27] Unknown:
Paul.
[02:51:29] Unknown:
It's Bruce.
[02:51:34] Unknown:
He ran while the getting's good.
[02:51:48] Unknown:
Isn't it all blood money anyway? All that, it's dug out of the ground by slaves or stolen by the DeSotos and
[02:51:57] Unknown:
the Well, this is this is just, yeah, this is just more proof that labor is the only value. People talk about gems and precious metals and but they have to be mined and refined, don't they?
[02:52:14] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:52:56] Unknown:
Alright. Well, sounds like, the air has pretty much been let, out of the conversation, so I am going to seize the opportunity. Yes, Bruce?
[02:53:10] Unknown:
I'm gonna ask you a question. Can you give, can you say my, phone number?
[02:53:23] Unknown:
No.
[02:53:24] Unknown:
No. I cannot see your give it to you? I cannot see your phone number. All I can see is your email address. Is that legit?
[02:53:36] Unknown:
Dear. Right. I can give you my number too.
[02:53:40] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:53:41] Unknown:
Wish I won't. 803
[02:53:44] Unknown:
Well, I'm 514 I'm gonna take, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the stream down before you give your phone number over the air, which is what I was trying to do before you, spoke up. So give me just a second. Alright? Yeah. Go ahead. That's it for the Radio Ranch with Rogers sales, the Friday edition with Brent Allen Winters and Paul English joined us from across the pond. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on eurofolkradio.com, radio soap parks Com, Global Voice Radio Network, 1 0 6 point 9 WBOU FM in Chicago, Home Network Dot Tv, Freedom Nation Dot Tv, go live tv, and streamlife.tube.
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Man, coming in right under the wire on the program here today at the start. Morning, Paul, and audience. And it's the Friday edition, of course, the May 9. And, Roger Sales and Brent Winters, when he gets here, are your hosts. And, here we are at the Radio Ranch. I don't see Francine this morning. That's kinda unusual. Morning, Paul. Is there anybody there?
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Yeah. Yeah. I had I had turned my mic on. Boy, you had me worried for a second. Actually, we don't we don't we don't have anybody with us this morning. We have I know, man. Eurofolk and Global Voice Radio with us this morning. But, Yeah. WDRN productions and the Ned family of broadcast services is not here yet. Neither is Francine or, Brent.
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So Oh, everybody's sleeping in late this morning? Hell, I couldn't sleep last night. I was up in the middle of the night. Y'all are all sleeping in. What's going on? I slept eleven hours
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last night. Yeah. I said you have a I know
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that feels good. Well, good morning, miss Julie. You're effervescent this early. Everything alright?
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Well, did you watch the hockey game last night?
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Yes. I did.
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Yeah. I mean, the the ref missed so many calls that should've given Vegas power plays.
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Yeah. I went to bed as it went to overtime. I was trying to get sleep and then couldn't sleep. Woke up in the middle of the night and checked on the score in Edmonton. I heard the announcers say, the guys that do between intermissions, they're going, look. Edmonton may be hoisting the cup. They're they're looking like the best team in the whole
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day. Yeah. But they lost last night. It's still they just had, like, two power play two power plays they got robbed of.
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I know. But, you know, if, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, Julie. And, and, they they they didn't they didn't win. So Edmonton won in overtime, so maybe I'll carry their complaint to the league. So I guess we're just kinda just waiting on Brent. Is Brent gonna show up? I mean, I'm this Skype thing's got me about discombobulated. I go because Brent and I always exchange a message for the show on Friday morning. You know? Well, I said, good morning, Brent. Well, I hadn't heard back from him. I don't know if Skype's working that way or I so frustrated with Microsoft.
So, anyway
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Maybe he can upgrade to Teams.
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I I don't know which I was just sending him on a straight Skype thing, not a Teams thing. So I I just don't know. You know? Well I'm I'm disgusted at Skye at Microsoft. I could just shoot him, really. Okay.
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If Brent didn't upgrade to Teams, then he would have lost his contacts in Skype, and he wouldn't have received your message.
[00:05:10] Unknown:
If he didn't upgrade to Teams, Skype wouldn't have run with them and run with them unless he had If he had if he had some subscriptions, that's not true. If he had some money in who would send an IMs or whatever. Now I'm different. I'm out of the country. Okay? But if you've got some sort of a a money a a funding base with them, They're not supposed to do that. I don't I don't know. It's all very confusing to me, and I'm about PO'd about it. I just have to figure it out and, and change my routine. I am about to order a magicJack, which should cure the phone call thing. Mhmm. But, so, anyway, we'll see as we go forward. Just aggravating.
God. I just despise Microsoft. So, anyway, well, enough of that garbage. I'm sure I'm not the only one dancing around this little issue. Gosh. What else is happening? No Brent this morning, man. That's unusual. That's, highly unusual. So I don't know what's going on. You know? It could have been it could could be an emergency came up or whatever. You know? His, his parents his parents are both in their late nineties and still living, which is almost unbelievable, you know, in itself. So let's hope nothing serious has happened. Everything's alright, and he just can't find a Wi Fi spot or something to that effect. We'll see as we go through the show here this morning. Good morning to everybody.
So Paul's done his thing. How was the, how was the English show yesterday?
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Yeah. It was good. Yeah. Well, yeah, it was good. It was it was fun. So Mhmm.
[00:07:00] Unknown:
Nothing super substantial came out of it? I feel sorry for Paul and the Englishman over there. I mean, god, some of these countries are just going to hell in a handbasket. I mean, quick.
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K? Hey, Roger.
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Yes. Julie.
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You know how we were talking about Michael Milken?
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Yes. The junk bond king. Did you know
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that on May 5 that Elon Musk spoke at the Milken global conference, and he advocated for AI to replace government workers, citing the U. S. Government's inefficiency. And it was delivered during a closed door session with Michael Milken and they're saying this is reflecting a broader technocratic agenda, one that seeks to centralize power through technology. And it says, by examining the networks behind this event, including Milken Institute history, Musk's associates and their ties to figures like Jeffrey Epstein, a troubling picture emerges, a coordinated effort to normalize AI as a tool for governance at the expense of human agency and democratic oversight. Very interesting.
[00:08:16] Unknown:
Well, I'm sure some of that's coming in the future. There's no telling what this AI beast is gonna produce. I mean, at this point, I haven't had much interaction with it. I I don't play with chat GPT or Bruno or whatever, any of the other ones out there. But I can see from the little bit of exposure I've had to it with Paul reading, like, what the description of our shows is well, it's pretty startling to me. I could see that that's gonna be that that's gonna be the future and, that it certainly could take up some of these positions in government where these bureaucrats, all they do sit around and eat they're either watching porno or they're playing solitaire.
That's what I can tell.
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I mean,
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well, I mean, really. You know?
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You're on a roll. If my head falls, she'd be my uncle.
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Well, that's we use that occasionally around here.
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I've never heard of that before.
[00:09:20] Unknown:
God, can I just move to Ecuador and go hide? I mean, it's just the whole damn world's going into it's it's like crazy nuts. Crazy nuts. I haven't heard any update on whether Pakistan and India is gonna get us into World War three yet. I think they're begging to. Yeah. It's just unbelievable everywhere you look, you know. And you you may May I lady win the league? Yes. You you may in just a second, sweetie. You gotta hand it to Trump for I mean, you know, he's it's like a duck. Have you heard of this? Like, you're like a duck. You're cool, calm, and collected on top and paddle like hell underneath. That's what he's gotta be going through. Okay?
Linda, what do you got, sweet thing?
[00:10:06] Unknown:
Yes. Julie spoke on a subject that was very intriguing, and I sent her I sent Mark. I sent you. I sent Paul, George, Joe Lustica, and Sherry this, audio. And I'm sending it to Sheldon now as I speak. But I was hoping Paul said you didn't get it. I sent it at 02:05 in the morning. It's an audio chat, and it's about the trust realm expert, Todd Duell, d u e l l. And it's proof of the birth certificate trust and Americans quote, unquote legacy treasury account. And it's only twenty four minutes in length. And I find that this community should be aware of this, And it's dated 05/01/2025.
And, Julie, I called you today on your landline and your cell phone, and I asked if you had received it because Paul said he did not receive it. So I sent it to Paul, all by himself so that he can put it do his magic and,
[00:11:09] Unknown:
introduce it to our community in IEL. Well, I got up in the middle. Did you get it? I got in I I got up in the middle of the night. You're sending it under Jerry, somebody. Yeah. Jerry's my husband. Yes. Yes. Okay. So I did get that. Listen to just a smidgen of it and forwarded it to Julie and said, I think this is under your bailiwick here. You know, I'd like to uncover all this stuff for the audience. It's something to do with bonds and the treasury, and they say you can get money back and all that stuff.
[00:11:42] Unknown:
I I wish this guy about it in our trust class last night, Julie brought up. And, I says, oh, wow. This is very timely. And so I sent it to Julie, and I sent it to Mark Mays, Roger, Paul, George of, Idaho, Jill Mustika, Sherry. And, I just think that our community should be aware of this. It's twenty four minutes Yeah. In length. So, Cool. Well, good. Anything The other thing. The other thing,
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if I may Whatever you get back, I ought to get I think I ought to get 10%. Don't you, Linda?
[00:12:20] Unknown:
Sure. Why not? It's enough grapes to go around for everybody. But in my prayer prayer meeting this morning, one of our prayer, members, she sent a silver coin to, pay the tax, for her property tax and, you know, put a cover letter in and said this is to pay my property tax. And she sent it registered mail because, you know, a silver coin is is is, lawful lawful money. And they sent her the coin back. And so then she she sent them a letter with UCC 3Dash603 tender of payment. And it says in that particular section, because the UCC is their bible, and she said a pay a payment given and rejected is a debt paid. That's the.
Correct. And so, she she got her taxes paid without paying her taxes with federal reserve notes. I thought that was very intriguing, and I thought that was something that's going to be excuse me, dear?
[00:13:29] Unknown:
I was saying that's a pretty slick way to do it. And and Linda's exactly right. Under the UCC, a payment tendered and refused, is a payment, is a debt canceled, basically. So, that's true. Okay?
[00:13:46] Unknown:
So this may be a a slick way, Julie, in paying a mortgage debt, you know, that monthly bill that comes in the mail or a property tax. And, I haven't tried it yet, but, I'm gonna discuss it with my husband. But but, wow, this is a very cool methodology to use their scam to
[00:14:10] Unknown:
take care of their Well, that's their way. That's the best thing to do is to use their crap and just turn it right back on them. And, it sounds like you've made the decision to do it. Check with Hubby, see what he says, Jerry, and, let us know how it turns out. That might be something other folks in the audience here could try. Yeah. Boy, I hope I hope Brent's alright. I'm I this very unlike Brent. No communication. No show. Yes. Roger. Well, Fran you hear me? Francis.
[00:14:41] Unknown:
I hear you, Francine. You know? Francine. Uh-huh. Yes. I don't see that. Brent can't get in the reason why Brent can't get in is because I no longer have Skype. And so I Right. Couldn't send him the link, and he sent me a link, but it must be an old link because it says, that Paul Bieners' personal meeting room is in another meeting right now. So can somebody do you still have Skype, Roger?
[00:15:07] Unknown:
I well, I don't know. I sent him a message. I I sent him a message this morning. He didn't respond, which is highly unusual. We're all fighting this Skype battle, and I I don't. But Paul but Paul Beaner should and see if you can raise him, Paul. You His Skype may have been turned off as well. Mine I lost mine Monday morning. It's gone. If he didn't if he didn't convert to Teams or have a subscription, it may be lost.
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He has a subscription to Teams. I know he does. To Microsoft three sixty. So, anyway, he's sitting there waiting. He's he's communicating to me and found
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and telling me he's still waiting and what's going on. Alright. Well, we'll see if Paul can get him something. Otherwise, I'm dead in the water too. I, I'm I'm so mad at Microsoft. I could just spit nickels. I'll tell you that.
[00:16:02] Unknown:
I, I found I found Brent. Brent was offline on Skype, and I looked for him at the beginning of, like, the first five minutes of the show, and he wasn't there. But he just appeared, so I sent him the link.
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Oh, okay. Great.
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So Wonderful. Okay. Well, I don't see you. How are you talking? Did you dial in on the
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FCC? My screen?
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Yeah. Okay. Yes. I'm in FCC. Yes. Okay. So And you sound fabulous.
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Oh, good. You really do.
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Okay. There you go. Well, we'll wait for the professor, professor Brent to be here.
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Oh, what a mess. You sent you right now. You said, Paul?
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Yes. I sent it in the Skype.
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I sent you. Whoops. Oh my goodness.
[00:16:58] Unknown:
Let's get out of here. I'll send. Now I guess if you've got some subscriptions, whatever, you can go to the Skype website and use their Dialpad and whatever. You can still make calls or something. They want money, I think, to do that, though. What no. No. No. Not if you've got a subscription. See, I've got a I've got a annual subscription that runs until the June, where I call The US back.
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Yeah. I'm listening. Wrote back. No. It's no Skype. He said his Skype is dead.
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Okay. I'm going to give him It says he's online. It says he's active.
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We're talking about Microsoft here.
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Okay. I'm gonna send him to this link.
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Let me do that. I can find it. Shoot it to him an email or something, Franny. I hear it. Yes. I don't have
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I don't have the link, Roger.
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I can't even see. I have to go back here. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay.
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Hi. Let me go back to my new Alright. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Don't get excited. What, what address at common lawyer Com should I send the link to?
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In church is one of them. Hold on. I can drag that.
[00:18:30] Unknown:
Yeah. He doesn't open in church. He I don't know which one he opens. I I don't have his email address. I talked to him on Skype or
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Oh, he used to.
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Yeah. He used to. Let me let me go back to the matrix docs, and I'm gonna get that address and send that to him. Okay. Here we go. Let's get that. Brent Brent, let's see what
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good lord. Is everything messed up today? Let's see here. Sorry, audience. Bear with us. We'll be there in a minute.
[00:19:04] Unknown:
Okay. I just sent you I just sent you the Zoom link to in church, I n n c h u r c h, at common lawyer dot com. Got it. Okay. Let me go get You can grab the link from that email and then forward it to him and whatever medium you're using to, chat with him, and we'll get it done. You really need to bookmark bookmark or save that link somewhere. I mean, we knew Skype was gonna go away and all that. So
[00:19:39] Unknown:
well, I'll the only address I've got for Brent is in church,innchurch@at,uh, common lawyer dot com. It's the only address I've got for you email wise. That's what I sent it to.
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And now it says, no. Kitty, get down.
[00:20:00] Unknown:
We we got some turpentine for that kitty.
[00:20:04] Unknown:
I got it, Paul. She arrived. So hang on one second.
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Wham. Get back to Yeah. Well, audience, just hang in there.
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Alright.
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The, issues of great substance are right around the corner. Just hang in. I mean, great substance. Good lord. Oh, lordy. Bill Gate. I I tell you what, Bill Gates and anything he touches could just screw up the world. K? You're you're the latest. He's after Elon Musk. He's accusing Elon of killing 2,000,000,000 children now.
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Uh-huh. Yes.
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Shit. Right, Bill. Hi.
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And I I went to your Zoom call. So let's see if
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This he in?
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This has been a great show already. We started out with if my aunt had a bald, she'd be my uncle, and we moved right on to issues of great substance.
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That's right. And there wait a minute. Frannie just showed up here on the Zoom thing. She hasn't been there all of a sudden that Because I sent her the link. Auburn that Auburn hair. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Paul sent me the Auburn hair. He just And I see. Out of the black Zoom background. So
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Yeah. Let's see. Did he let me go back to my where is it? Here he is.
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What a Okay. He didn't he didn't he didn't he didn't respond. Look. I'm gonna call him, so I have to mute up. Okay.
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Okay. R. Okay, audience. Well, let's see. Oh, there's Mark. Is that Mark? I thought I heard r. Well, yes.
[00:21:54] Unknown:
You're good. Can you hear me?
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I hear you, but you're in a can. You just have Bluetooth.
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Is mobile. I've got you in my car with a bone. Bluetooth.
[00:22:08] Unknown:
Well, it's just not here. There's no reason for you to be operating properly because everything else is screwing up this morning if you haven't heard.
[00:22:18] Unknown:
Can you hear me?
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I can now.
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Can now. Alright. Alright. Well, it's it's not like we haven't been told about Skype going away for about three months. And, I know I notified people that were in my contact list, and not a single one of them replied saying that they were connected.
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I I think if you've got do you have any services on your Skype account? On account? Do you have sir? No. Do you have service? Okay. Well, that's why. No. If you got services like,
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I did this way before they they supposedly cut on Skype. Yeah. Right. So it wasn't like and I I updated to Teams And, you know, I haven't had any problems, and it looks like my Skype is still working because I updated the Teams. So I don't know. But I just, I I find it interesting that that in general, my experience has been most people don't do anything until they're cut off, and then they go scrambling.
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So
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I'm scrambling.
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Yeah. And then he goes screaming. Why isn't it working? Here.
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Okay. Well, Mark, welcome.
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I'm used to this kind of stuff.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah. Okay. And Brent joined us.
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Oh, is that right? The Yes. He did. Got him in in the door finally? Yeah. Got him in the door. Finally. Brent, are you there? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Okay. What an ordeal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. We we have serious echo. Mark, are you still unmuted?
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Somebody needs to mute. There we go. It's gone now. Fixed it. Okay? Thank you. Well, Brent, in the midst of all this commotion, good morning. Oh, hi. I sent you a message. I sent you the traditional GM, Brent, and I didn't see back from you. And I I don't know if you got that or not this morning.
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No. Uh-uh. Of course. I'm not on I'll talk to you about that later. But,
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thanks to miss Francine, we got on. And, apparently, Paul helped her, and she helped me. And so we're in. Well, anyway, it's good to be here. What have you been talking about, Roger? Well, we've been talking about Skype and trying to get you on the air and Oh. And and and and complaining about all this stuff. And, so that's it's it hadn't been much of a show so far, so you're coming in in a pretty good spot.
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Well, let me get straight some straight to some substance, if I may. You please. Now in the midst of all this madness, seems like it was yesterday that, the last pope died. That was yes seems yesterday to me. It wasn't that long ago. And now we got this one. He he decided to go up the flume, and so now we got a new one. All this hubbub, all this baloney.
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Did the last one die, or did he abdicate, or they kicked him all out so they could bring this Francis guy in? Oh, I don't know. I I and I don't pay attention. I don't give back. I know. I I shouldn't even ask you, but I'm sorry. I thought I'd I yeah. I got a lot of important things on my mind. Yeah. Pedophiles,
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but, I wanna read some quotes from recent church history about about the papacy and about Rome. And this particular quote comes from the man that's called the greatest preacher since Paul the Apostle. I think that's a nice way to just say something nice about him, but it's kind of silly because Paul the Apostle wasn't much of a preacher from what I can gather about him. He was, he he could write some good letters, and he was an influential man, and he was he's been indispensable. God has used him, but he I don't know that he was a great preacher, but this guy I'm quoting was truly a great preacher. I don't know that he knew what Paul knew. That's another matter. Paul was used to write the Bible, but, this man was a great preacher. Matter of fact, he spoke every Sunday to between six and ten thousand people at in London London, England during the last late eighteen hundreds and into the nineteen hundreds, the twentieth century.
And his name was Charles Haddon Spurgeon. And he Yes. Yes. Spurgeon became the spokesman for Christianity, above all people worldwide. And when after he would speak, within hours, his his sermons were telegraphed throughout the world, Sunday after Sunday. Now that doesn't make him right. It doesn't make him somebody to be venerated. It just makes him another preacher. But he was, influential. The man never went to school much at all. Never went to school much at all. But he was what we would call today self educated, and he read profusely.
And he's called the last of the Puritans, the last of the Puritans. And his ability to communicate and his voice had to have been had to have been suited to the job because he spoke to that many people in a day when there was no electronic microphones. And if you've got, six to 10,000 people in front of your voice when you speak, that many bodies will absorb what you say, and it will be hard to hear. But he was able to do that amazingly. I, of course, didn't hear him, but I have to conclude that he had a voice suited to the task. Well, I want to read to you what he said about the papacy.
And he's preaching. He was preaching, Matthew chapter two verse 11. It says, and when they come when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother and fell down and worshiped him. Allow me to read that again. That's from that's the nativity of our savior, Matthew two verse 11. And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down and worshiped him. And Spurgeon said this after reading this text. He said the old I'm I'm quoting quoting they called him Charlie in, you know, in London. Charlie. Yes, Charlie.
The old reformers used to say, here is the bone that sticks in the throat of the Romanist, and they can neither get it up nor down, for it does not say here, they saw Mary and the young child. No, no. The young child is put first. It says they came to see him. It does not say that they fell down and worshipped themMary and the child. If ever there was an opportunity for mariolatry, surely this was the one. When the child was yet newly born, and depended so much upon his mother, why did not the magi say, Avi Maria, and commence at once their mariolatry?
Ah, but these were wise men. They were not priests from Rome. Else, they might have done it. Let me read another quote here.
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That's quite revealing
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right there, Brent. Yeah. That's it. Yes. It is. And I I say the man never he wasn't educated formally, But the Bible doesn't require formal education
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No. It doesn't. Nor priesthood
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to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But this man, Spurgeon, proved himself over several decades to be a deep contemplator of his times and what the Bible says in applying it to his times. He said this also, You cannot make a sinner into a saint by killing him. You cannot make a sinner into a saint by killing him. He who does not live as a saint here will never live as a saint hereafter. When he says you cannot make a sinner into a saint by killing him, he's speaking of the sainting of martyrs. The sainting of martyrs. And it was true that by the by the third century, salvation was by martyrdom. That's what people believed by and large. By the second century, before that, people believed that salvation, safety from hell, was by baptism.
But that wasn't true in the first century. In the true sent first century, salvation was by trust alone in Jesus Christ without the works of the law without the works of the law. Nothing in my hand I bring, only to thy cross I cling. Other refuge have I none hangs my helpless soul on thee alone. Well that's that's the gospel. And everything else is a damnable lie from hell. That you can be a good person or do something to gain favor with God. You can't. Maybe I could look at a few other ones here. It gets more intense, but that was an opening one. Spurgeon lived from 1834 to 1892.
He was peculiar, and he remains highly influential even, of course, today. It wasn't that long ago. He was called the prince of preachers. He was a strong figure in what we call the reformed tradition. That's the puritanical and the the puritanical tradition, the Scottish Presbyterian tradition, the Dutch and German Reformed tradition. And he adhered to what's called the confession of 1689, which, of course, was a restatement in terse terms of what the Bible says. Listen to what, Spurgeon said, about Rome. Popery, he said, is contrary to Christ's gospel. It is the antichrist, and we have to pray against it.
It should be the daily prayer of every believer that antichrist might be hurled like a millstone into the flood. And for Jesus Christ, because it wounds Jesus Christ. The popery denies Jesus Christ of his glory because it puts sacramental efficacy in the place of his atonement. It lifts a piece of bread into the place of the savior at the mass and a few drops of water into the place of the Holy Spirit. It puts a more fallible man like ourselves up as vicar of Christ on earth. If we pray against Rome, the papacy, because we should pray because it is it is against Jesus Christ.
We shall love the persons through through though we hate their errors, we shall love their souls though we loathe and detest their dogmas. And so the breath of our prayers will be sweetened because we turn our faces toward Jesus Christ when we pray and not toward Mary. It is a bound and duty, he continues. It is a bound and duty of every Christian to pray against antichrist. And as to what antichrist is, no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery and the church of Rome, there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. If there were to be issued a hue and a cry for antichrist, we should certainly take up this church on suspicion, the church of Rome. And it would certainly not be let loose again.
For it is so exactly because excuse me. For it so exactly answers the description. Rome's idolatries are the scorn of reason and the abhorrence of faith. The inequities of her practice and the enormities of her doctrine almost surpass belief. Popery is as much the masterpiece of Satan as the gospel is the masterpiece of God. There can scarcely be imagined anything of devilish craftiness or satanic wickedness which could be compared with her. She is unparalleled as the queen of iniquity. That's from Charles Haddon Spurgeon on potpourri.
There are many others. The reformers that were, of course, replete with it. Luther and Calvin and Knox and others too numerous to mention point out that the pope of Rome is an antichrist. Now they said it a little stronger. I don't say the way they said. They said he was the antichrist. I don't and Spurgeon seems to take up that position. Well, clearly, clearly, he is antichrist. And the Bible says uses that word, Antichristos, four times, the first John, the epistle, and the second epistle of John, John the foreman of the 12 man jury that Jesus Christ empaneled to witness the evidence of his identity.
And John was the foreman, and John the apostle, is the only one that was not murdered for his verdict. He died in chains, slave labor on an assault mine on the Isle Of Patmos. And it was from there that God gave him that massive download that enabled him that he put on paper and he wrote as the book of Revelation. But John makes the point about antichrist four times. He says there are many antichrists among you. The Bible does not clearly say there is the antichrist. That's not there. That's an interpolation, an extrapolation from the idea that there is a be the beast, and, then the beast, people say, is the antichrist, but the Bible never says that. But it does say, let's know what we know for sure. It says there are many antichrists among you.
And if I may, Roger, I'll continue with this story about the experience of John Knox in Scotland and explaining and unpacking that Greek word of the Greek New Testament, Antichristos.
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Boy, roll on with it, please.
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Okay. I've told it often. Some of you have probably heard me tell it, but it's the story I like to use to explain what an antichrist is. Reformers said the pope of Rome is antichrist. The Lutherans today soften it up a little bit and say the pope of Rome or the office of Rome is the antichrist. The office of Rome. Well, both are true. Can't have one without the other, and whoever holds the office is an antichrist. Well, antichrist does not mean what we say in our English tongue, it means because we have transformed and changed in our English tongue, the Greek preposition anti.
It does mean some of what English says it means now and how we use it. But in the Greek tongue, it meant something a little more stabbing, although it did include our meaning in English. And, it didn't mean it didn't mean it doesn't mean in the New Testament against primarily, although it comes out being that. It means something, though, much more important. It means in place of Mhmm. Instead of. Right. It is the equivalent of the Latin preposition vicar. The pope calls himself the vicar of Jesus Christ. What does that mean? That means in place of, instead of. It's the same Latin root word as vice.
Vice president means in place of the president. It's a Latin word, not an English word. And vicar means in place of Jesus Christ. And the official doctrine of Rome is that the pope stands in the place of Jesus Christ on earth with all authority of Jesus Christ on earth, over all kings, all governments, all armies. I'm not I'm not quoting exactly the statement of Rome, but there's I'm paraphrasing it. It says that the pope, has authority and power to depose all governments on earth and command all armies on earth if he wants to according to their doctrine. Now he's done that, of course, in the past. Well, this story about Knox, I think, tells the story, and it provides a little bit of insight into our English speaking Christianity and our English speaking culture, of course.
All culture is religion externalized. All cult culture is religion externalized, and our experience as English speaking people with Christianity is our culture. And it's different than all the rest of the world in a lot of different ways. Even the continent of Europe, we often talk about the West. We're a product of the West. Well, those that are from the continent of Europe can say that, but those of us whose culture has come from Britain say much more. It's different than the continent of Europe. We're a common law culture, and that's a culture of religion, law, and government. The continent of Europe has spread throughout the year the world, the civil canon laws of Rome, Much different government and much different understanding. And remember, all religion stands under government someplace or religion has to stand under it. And all government is God's business. God's business, the true god, the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the god and father of our lord Jesus Christ.
Well, John Knox was from Scotland, and his nickname was Spider. That's what his friends called him, Spider. Well, the reason they called him Spider was because he was what we used to call when I was a boy back, well, at home in the Wabash Valley, a galoot. A galoot was a man who, when he walked, to exaggerate it, his knuckles would drag. He had long arms compared to the length of his the rest of his body, and John Knox was like that. And not only did he have long arms, his fingers complimented the length of his arms, and they were long and bony too. And so people called him spider because of his hands. His hands looked that way.
Well, he was a Roman priest and trained as a Roman priest, and that was no small matter in those days. Much stringent today, but it's much more than anywhere from seven to twenty years of higher education to be a a Roman priest. And he was. And he was well equipped. Matter of fact, he was one of the translators later on of the Geneva Bible. He knew the tongues of Latin, of course, during those seven to twenty years, however many he spent. He wasn't only he was allowed to speak and write only Latin. And it was the language, the hidden language of the secrets of Rome that the unwashed masses weren't allowed to know, of course. And well, he was edumacated is what I'm getting at. He wasn't like Charles Spurgeon. This guy had a lot of reading and writing under his belt.
Well, somehow, he got the idea through the early reformers in Scotland. A fellow by the name of, shucks his name escapes me. He was the first one, one of the first ones burned at the stake for preaching without a license.
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Wasn't Westcott or Hort, was it?
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No. Oh, George Wishart. It came to me right when you said that, Roger. And and because you said it, it came to me. It's funny how your brain works, but thanks. George Wishart. And George, would, preach anywhere he get a chance. They wouldn't let him preach in a church house, of course. Finally, they caught him, convicted him, and he was he was just a kind, giving man. And even when he was walking to the stake when they're getting ready to burn him, he took the change out of his pocket and gave it to the to the poor widow woman that was standing in line and wanted to wanted to pray for him.
He had to get what money he had left. Well, they burnt him up, put gunpowder bags around his neck. That was merciful in those days so that he would explode the gunpowder and kill you before he died slowly, I suppose. Well, George, was burned by a bishop named cardinal Beaton. What Rome did the people back in those days is so gruesome. It's hard to talk about. Now man wrote a book that became a bestseller back in those days called Chuck, somebody will tell me. I can't remember names this morning. It's not important, the names, but it was, a history of the markers of the church and right on right up to the present. And all these accounts, he he was meticulous. Pil Pilgrim's Progress?
No. But that was a bestseller. That was the other bestseller. This one, oh, somebody else put it in chat, and they know. It's so well known. It was a bestseller in England right along with Pilgrim's Progress. But, oh, Fox's Book of Martyrs. It came Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. A fellow named Fox. Now that wasn't the George Fox that was the founder of the Quakers. This was another fella. Yeah. Fox's Book of Martyrs. So we have the records of of those things as best as they can be procured going clear back to the beginning and bringing it right up through the parts of the reformation. Well, John Knox was George Wishart's bodyguard while he preached.
And the reason, they chose now Knox went from being this highfalutin priest to a man that held a claymore. A claymore. You know, we got a mine in America, make a mine called a claymore. That's an explosive device. Yep. Well, that was named after the Scottish claymore. The Scots called their big broadsword that cut both ways, a broadsword, they called that a claymore, which is in Scott's dialect means big sword. Big sword. The kind of sword that William Wallace carried. He carried a claim.
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Yeah.
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You could use it to make split personalities out of people. You can. Yeah. And and and, Wallace bragged or his people bragged on him. I know he said it. I can split a man like a fish to be broiled from the crown of his head right down through his crotch with one blow. And if you're six feet ten inches tall like he was, yeah, he's a big boy. You were a brute, and that's what he was. That's that's big today. Yeah. Larry Bird was six nine and a half to six between six nine and a half and six ten, to give you an idea. Yeah. And Larry well, there are men that are bigger than that, but Larry was a big one. But then add to that the just the brute, muscle.
Larry Bird was strong, but he was lean because he ran a lot. William Wallace was brutish and, from what we read about him. And he wasn't the brains of the operation like the movie presents him. That, you know, they they had a little tiny man, Mel Gibson, tiny man. They had him play, Willow Wallace. Well, it was the other way around. Then they had that great big red headed fellow that was supposed to be the brute that was always with, Mel Gibson. Well, it's just the other way around. The true story is there was a fellow named Archie. That was Archie. Archie Archibald was a great big no. Archibald was a little tiny fellow with a lot of brains. And Will William Wallace, a great big fellow, he was a brute.
But Archie was the brains of the operation. He was the one that he's always with Wallace. They'd stand outside the English castles and taunt the the men on the walls on the other side of the moat until they got mad and come out after them. But they, of course, didn't tell them they'd snuck out the night before, and the moats swam under the drawbridge and removed the bolts that held the other side on. You know? And then they'd put the drawbridge down and run out on the horses, and the drawbridge would would fall in the water with with the horses. That was Archie. He was the smart one in that in that operation.
Well, of course, took but it takes both. It takes brains and brawns. See? And so the team, Archie and Bill Wallace William Wallace was pretty good for what they were trying to do. Well, and Archie was behind the scenes kind of a guy. He, you know, wasn't up front. That's true. Well, at any rate, Knox, John Knox, being a glute with long arms, the Claymore suited his his physique. He had long arms and add that sword. He could reach keep people back. Isn't it something? Here the man's preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Kind man.
We had to have somebody in front of him in the bodyguard to keep people from killing him while he was trying to preach. But he he did it. He did it. And, he didn't get any bouquets. He only got brickbats. You know? That's the way it worked in them days. And, so he did that for a while after he he rejected popery. He said, the Bible is my pope. I have a paper pope now. That's final. The final arbiter of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal. By the way, Rome says no, the pope. Still, of course, the doctrine, the council of Trent. Go to the Internet and read it. He is the final arbiter of right and wrong. He is god on earth, just like Hitler and the emperor of Japan, and they run to the same the same legal code called the Canon's laws of wrong. Will.
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Go ahead. About we'll talk a little bit more about the new pope here in in a few minutes. Go on with your story. Give you a little background on this rascal.
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Okay. I'll get I'll get to the story here before the end of the hour, and then we can talk about whatever you think is important. So John Knox had that job, but but then the noose started to tighten, and they started burdening people at the stake. Rome did, of course, and cardinal Beaton was in charge in Scotland to burning people like Mary Queen or no, Mary. Bloody Mary, not Mary well, Mary Queen of Scots was bad too, but Bloody Mary burned 300, Bible translators and and protestants after she got into office. You know, today, they just burn the translation. They don't burn the translators that much. Thank god. But back then, they burned the translators that They thought that was a well, that was a capital crime according to her. Well, John Knox, the tight the noose tightened, and finally, the reformers, those that were faithful. I mean, the ones that believe the Bible were were reduced to an area of land around the castle on the coast of Scotland called Saint Andrew's Castle.
Remember Andrews Andrew was the he's one of the 12 man jury of Jesus Christ empaneled. Mhmm. That was the patron saint of the Roman system in Scotland. That's a Roman system,
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not a Christian system. I I think that's where they play the British Open every year. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Of course. Of course,
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golf, they say, was invented or it got popular in Scotland, knocking that little leather ball around a pasture field. You know? Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, any rate, leather back then. But, he they got got Andrews Saint Andrews Castle. Then they finally decided we better go in this castle and just stay there, and they were besieged in that castle on the coast. Well, they were thought they had, the the bible believers about stomped out. So the pope of Rome got word, and he commissioned the the the French fleet. He controlled France entirely. The French fleet to go over there and start bombarding that castle, which they did.
And it was coming down around their ears. But, the last Sunday they were there, they they ordained John Knox to be their chaplain. Well, he was excited about that because he had abandoned all that Roman baloney and his priesthood and the money and the beautiful clothing and all that. And, so he felt like, well, maybe finally I'll do something I'm trained to do. So his first sermon was to to unpack the meaning of antichrist. And here's what he said. He said, the Greek preposition, does not mean against primarily. It can result in that, but what it means is in place of.
Anybody who says, I am a God's ordained man in place of Jesus Christ down here on land within this realm. Maybe it's just a Pentecostal church or a a TV church or a Baptist church or or the pope of Rome or the bishop of the diocese of Chicago or Washington or Rome, whatever. I have all authority of Jesus Christ. I've heard Pentecostal preach and charismatic church people say this. We can't touch God's anointed, like the preacher's anointed is special, and that he's the final decider of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal within his bailiwick. That's antichrist.
It's someone who says, Adolf Hitler was an antichrist. He promoted the doctrine of Hegel. Hegel said the state is God walking on earth. Well, what does Rome say? The pope is in place of Jesus Christ down here on earth and in charge of everything. But there are limited limited versions of it, like Hitler was in Germany, like, the, emperor of Japan was in Japan under the same, Roman code. Japan was, by the way. All the communist countries are under that Roman code of Justinian of this of the sixth century. The church of Rome is under that code. The the Greek Orthodox Church of the East is under that code.
It's the ecclesiastic code that covers the goal of every country in the world except a few handful of common law countries. And even there, it's seeking inroads and always has. Admiralty law is a form of form of that code, in the spirit of that code, martial law. It's a martial kind of a law. Nothing wrong with admiral law applied on the seas. Nothing long wrong with martial law applied on fields of battle. But I'm just making the point. It's an ugly, tyrannical law applied anywhere else. It is a law of absolute dictatorship. And John Knox made that point. I wanna tell one other story, and then I'll quit about John Knox, one other point. Help you remember John Knox. Remember I said John Knox?
His nickname was the spider. And in those days in Scotland, back in the fifteen hundreds, there was a an insectologist, an insectologist in Scotland. And his name was doctor Muffet, m u f f e t, m u f e t. He was a Scotsman, and he was, they called him doctor Muffet because he was a, educated insectologist. And he had adopted a little girl, and, her nickname was miss Muffet. It wasn't his daughter, but, doctor Muffet called and his wife, they both called their little adopted daughter miss Muffet. And when he wrote that little poem about little miss Muffet sitting on a tuffet, that's a little milk and stool, that's Scotts for milk and stool, eating their curds and whey, that's pretty much cottage cheese, Along came a spider and sat down beside her and frightened miss Muffet away.
Well, that was a poem. It's about a political situation in Scotland at the time, of course, written like that so that he wouldn't get his head chopped off because Mary, queen of Scots, represents little miss Muffet. She was the little miss she was the little poor little rich girl that was being mistreated. See, little miss Muffet. And along came the spider, of course, that was his nickname, and he's the spider, and sat down beside her. And he did that. He had a meeting with her after she outlawed him. Nobody would touch him. Nobody would hurt him, so he had a meeting with her at Holyrood Castle. And he sat down with her and discussed matters of what they were gonna do in Scotland. She wanted him dead.
She cried like a baby Cried like a baby. I perceive that my my people obey you and not me and all that. And and he said, well, madam, I would that all of you and me and all of the people of Scotland would obey the lord Jesus Christ. Woah. Woah. Whine. Whine. Whine. And, well, she had later said that she feared she feared John Knox, the prayers of John Knox more than all the armies of Europe, and I believe it. I I don't believe she was talking hyperbole. I believe she was scared out of her wits. And as it turned out, she should have been because Knox had the upper hand finally. But after they captured Knox, the the castle fell. The French fleet put him on a warship as a galley slave. And for four and a half years, he wore an iron collar around his neck and was chained to an oar in a French warship.
And, after he got out of that experience, he didn't care anymore. He was gonna say what he was gonna say, and nobody matter what everybody did to him. And that's what analogous, analogous, not the same, but analogous to DJ Trump. After somebody puts a bullet past your head and through your ear, it changes your attitude. And by the time you're in your seventies and that happens, you probably don't care anymore. If you really think you're right, you're gonna do it no matter what. But John Knox was that way. Well, that's, just a little bit of story about potpourri and Roger. We're coming up the end of the hour.
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Well, then you need to tell the people that are about to leave us how to get more Brent Winters with all these wonderful stories and his great knowledge and depth of perspective.
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Oh, well, thank you, Roger. This is Brent, Brent Allen Winters, common lawyer dot com, common lawyer dot com. W w w dot common lawyer dot com. Go to the website. Take advantage of what is worthwhile there. If you think it is, you can listen to us on the radio on and on other platforms, seven days a week. You can find the links there to click on, to hear, or listen. You can also, procure procure books by yours truly, including, a translation of the Bible from the original tongues, the Koine Greek of the newer testament and the Hebrew and better make of the older testament books.
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textbook, 958 pages excellence of the common law concerning
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our law of the land with that other traditional religion law and government in the world, the law of the city, but Canon's civil law is wrong. Thank you, Roger.
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Yep. Paul,
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On Fridays, plural. So yeah. Plural. Okay. Two hours.
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Fridays radio soapbox dot com. Cool. Any, any chance that, mister Radio Soapbox is gonna pop in over here today?
[01:00:44] Unknown:
I don't know. He's Never know. He's actually on Teams right now.
[01:00:50] Unknown:
I see. Okay. I can ask. Oh, alright. Well, you can, proffer that invitation if you would, sir. Yeah. Okay. Well, Brent oh, now Paul's got something. Yes, sir? Speaking of quick comments,
[01:01:04] Unknown:
it, I noticed that, Brent mentioned the Scottish Claymore. Yeah. Those are those are serious serious, serious blades because I have one. 40 two inches long, two inches wide. Wow. Sharp on both sides. Oh, yeah. If you could lift it, you can swing it.
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What's that? Now here's a good question. Was Excalibur a a Claymore?
[01:01:33] Unknown:
I don't have a clue. I I don't know. I assume it was. Yeah. It probably was. You you
[01:01:39] Unknown:
mhmm. You know Excalibur was. If you don't, that's the sword that king author legend is legend has. It pulled out of the sword, out of the stone. There's a, casino out in Vegas named Excalibur. I know that. And, that's the name of the sword. It's got its own name. It's earned all through history. Brent, did you did you have anything else you wanted to add to miss Muffet and and John Knox? And I was I've heard that a number of times, of course, and it's still fascinating every time I hear it that that man and you kinda picture his description, you kinda picture him in your mind, and the power and influence that he had, not just because he had a Claymore.
[01:02:27] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Very cool. No. That I just I add those things I'll be upfront. I add those things to help people remember the story, but there are more important things there than that. The story is about the papacy and who they are and the struggle and the hundreds of thousands of people that were murdered so that we wouldn't be tied to that monstrous system called Rome. Rome is a monstrous system, and the chief vehicle of that monstrous system of the law of the city is the Roman what they call the Roman church. That's a fact. And why is it, I suppose, why is it that Rome, when the papacy gets a pass on pertinent everything?
Now I'm not saying they should or shouldn't. I'm just making a notice. It's hands off with those guys. Why do they get so much attention now after all that they've done, after all of the hatred, all of the murder, all of the slaughter, all of the things that they've done to do away with freedom? Do we forget that when Stephen Langton drafted Magna Carta, chief drafter, that he did it in Latin so that the Roman priesthood would readily read it? It was targeted to them. And when it was read to the pope, it was read to the pope, he immediately went postal almost, epileptic, and immediately excommunicated the drafters of Magna Carta, anybody who had anything to do with it.
Why? Because it mitigated Magna Carta mitigated against the canon civil laws of Rome. It is an expression of our common law of government, and one of many solid stepping stones of our common law tradition coming down through the centuries. It's not the beginning of it. But he said, no. This won't work. We can't have this. This will destroy our power, you see. And to read the history of the church, I'm not the greatest church historian in the world, but I've spent several decades always cognizant of it and looking at it and reading through it. And what you notice is that the papacy in Rome is a is a story of murder, avarice, greed, and military conquest, drugs, sex, sex, and more sex in every way you can imagine. Even reading were you gonna say something, Roger? I was just gonna say about what you said, so go right on, please. Oh, what is there? Sex, drugs, and rock and roll? That's the way we say it today, but that's all that the evil empire wants. They want to fill their lust of their
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bodies. There's there's just sex, drug, and Gregorian chants.
[01:05:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Gregorian chants or just where in the Bible does any of this appear? No place. Where in history and where in the Bible does it even hint that Peter the apostle ever was in Rome? No place. Paul the apostle wrote a letter. The great expression of the gospel of God is the epistle to the Romans. It's a it's a an epistle that is purely doctrine, and it unpacks everything that can be known that God has revealed about his great gospel, and it does it systematically. It is a logician's dream. It is purely logic based upon a fact, of course, that's self proving in the first chapter. You'll read it. Fascinating.
But that epistle, when Paul gets to the end of it, he had never been to Rome. He didn't know anybody there. But he greets, I think the count in the last chapter is 20 persons by name. 20 persons that he had heard of, that he got wind of and his journeys, and he wrote to encourage them. No place in that list of 20 persons is Peter the apostle mentioned much much less alluded to. Now you would think that if Peter had been there, he'd have said something about him or if he if they knew him there, well, there might be say, well, maybe he hadn't got there yet. Well, then add to that that no place has it hinted that he ever did at all.
And yet they say there is this continuum of authority from Peter. And they say this also, and it's false. We gotta keep this thing going. They're making a lot of money. Where is all that, that, all that clothing they wear? Let's get back down to the bottom line. Does Jesus Christ or the Bible anywhere authorize all the vestiges? The only place that the vestiges, the Bible only mentions once, and it mentions it in relation to an evil demonic religion. Paul the Apostle says there there are wolves. Wolves could be among you in sheep's clothing. Wolves could be among you in sheep's clothing. What to what does he refer?
What have did Rome have any power then? Well, not the church hadn't been organized yet, had not come into its own, the Roman papacy. But the Roman papacy is a continuation of Babylonian religion. And all that stuff you see that you don't find in the Bible, those big hats and all the rituals, not in the Bible anywhere, All that stuff you see is from the courts of Babylon. Yep. That's easy to show. That's not difficult. And so when you see the fancy vestiges and when Paul says wolves in sheep's clothing, he's referring to Babylonian religion, which was prevalent, of course, in the Roman Empire. All religion that is not God's true religion, as James the apostle says in his book in the Bible, all religion is from Babylon. It's all different forms of the same smelly stuff.
And the wolves in sheep's clothing refers to the cowl. And in Babylonian religion, they called it the cowl, c o w l. Well, what's that? That's an ancient word for a sheepskin that lays on the shoulder of the Babylonish priest of all different religions. Priesthood priesthood, we call it munkery. Munkery exists in all false religions. Munkery. Is the word monk in the Bible someplace or any word we could translate monk? No, not at all. No place. The the only mention of munkery in history has to do with false Babylonian religion. And they wear on their you can see them now. They're much more fancy than a sheepskin. They got that little thing that hangs off their shoulders, hangs down almost their elbows.
It was anciently called the cowl. And when when, Paul the apostle mentions wolves in sheep's clothing, he's talking about a priesthood, a Babylonian priesthood. He didn't know of Rome the way we understand it today. It hadn't developed to that point, but it's nothing but Babylonianism. He knew about that. He was, the yellow haired boy of Babylonian Judaism. We call it Babylonian Judaism. Their main book, we call the Babylonian Talbot. Why? Because it's from Babylon. It's not the Bible. That's not what's important to them. Never has been. The final rule of faith and practice for them is Babylonianism as it is with Rome.
Now we say these things, and people have accused me, of course, on my other platform. Say, well, one guy came home one time. We're teaching through books of the Bible. When you go to the New Testament, everything in the New Testament is a slam against Babylonian Judaism. I mean, everything. You can go to every phrase and word where there's a criticism of some false practice. It's a criticism of what Paul the apostle knew best, and he was he was the upcoming man in that religion. And, of course, all the other writers of the New Testament were intimately familiar with it. So when they used examples of what is false, they were referring to Babylonian Judaism. I say this on the authority of many others, better versed than me, and, primarily, foremost among those upon whom I say this is an Anglican named Lightfoot, a commentator. He wrote a set of commentaries on every verse of the New Testament of the Bible showing that relationship. He was, he knew more about Babylonian Judaism than ever any rabbi ever thought of Noah. But why putting it together so that he could show that Babylonian Judaism, which is just Babylonian religion coming under many different labels, is the prototype of all false religions the Bible uses from the days of Esther forward forward when Babylonian Judaism, broke out and became the religion of, throughout all the nations of the world and continues to be so today.
Making proselytes, as Jesus Christ said, and circumventing the entire globe to make one proselyte. I'm quoting Jesus Christ. To make one proselyte, and when you make that proselyte, that's a follower. When you make that proselyte of Judaism, you make him twice the son of hell and yourselves. Now that's Jesus Christ speaking. I say to people, if you don't like Judaism, use the Bible to criticize it. Don't just criticize it because you want to and you're mad about it. No. No. Just quote Jesus Christ. If you go further than that, you're gonna get in trouble like the Nazis in Germany did. They they got in trouble because they carried it beyond what Christ carried it. Let's be wise about that. He's the captain.
He's our master. He's our general officer. He's our commander. We're under his authority. We should do what he says the way he says to do it. And if you're going to criticize any false religion religion, and they're all the same fundamentally, just under different labels with variations of particulars, Use the Bible to do it because that's what Jesus Christ did. And there's more than one label, by the way, but it's all the same. I could say Islam or the Islam, Babylonian Judaism, and and Romanism are the three biggies in the world today and have been for many centuries. And all three of those religions, so called religions, same religion under different labels, arose at the same time for the same reason and by the influence of the same man. And that man was an Islamic sage from the North Of Africa called Abyros.
Mhmm. Abyros. Well, Abyros, during that time in the Middle Ages discovered the writings of the ancient Greeks. Of course, they were Babylonian as well. Socrates, Plato, all those kind of people were Babylonian. And he discovered their writings. He said, hey. This is what this is what Islam needs to make it respectable. Logic. Logic. Reason. And the intricacies of the writing the writings of the Greek writers Socrates, Plato, Euripides, etcetera, etcetera. And so he did. And then they they developed in Islam a a group of men that were educated beyond their intelligence, like, in all of the scholasticism. We call it in the West, we call it scholasticism.
And they were the only ones allowed to interpret the Quran and the traveler and the other writings of Islam. Well, they still have them today. But he introduced it into Europe because in Spain, there were many Islamic people. They, of course, had invaded, remember, and were stopped in France at a place called Tours, militarily, and they didn't go any further. But in some in France and Spain, Islam was prevalent after the middle ages, and it spread up into there. And then a fella and two fellas in Europe, got a hold of the idea. You you did you realize that before Saint Tom or what's called Saint Thomas Aquinas, Thomas Aquinas and his writings, the Church of Rome says are the official doctrine of Rome. And then the foremost rabbi of all times, Mohammates, all three of those men were contemporaries, and all three of them took up the same doctrines, applied the the scholasticism.
Scholasticism is putting logic above fact. That's what scholasticism is fundamentally. Scholasticism is putting logic above fact, and that's what scholasticism does. The writings of Saint Thomas Aquinas do that. Thomism, we call it. The writings of Mohammadi that introduced it into and it it brought something into Christianity that Christianity didn't worry about. It didn't worry about logic as much as it worried about fact. Logic will take care of itself. You've heard me say this, those of you that listen to me. Logic is not what God wants us to focus on. Fact is what it wants us to focus on. And he says if you focus on fact, logic will take care of itself. It depends upon your discernment of the true fact because you've got to discern the right fact upon which to base your logic, or you'll never get to the your logic could be impeccable. Like, oh, you read Tom Aquinas.
You talk about impeccable logic and volumes of it. He's good. Also was Mahomedes and Averroes, the Islamic sage, and Mahomedes, the rabbi. Logic is impeccable. It's tight. It's perfect. Trouble is they start with the the wrong major premise, the wrong fact that they start with without proving that you can't have logic. You can't it's a great tool. It's a great tool, but it's worthless if you start base it upon the wrong fact. Yep. You have to base it upon a fact that you don't prove with logic. Go ahead, Roger. No. I was just agreeing with you, Brent. Sorry. It was feeding over. So, for example, the book of Romans is a logician's dream. It's beautiful. The logic is impeccable.
Paul the apostle was trained in it. He was trained in scholasticism. He knew logic. Of course, he flipped it the other way around. It's not logic above fact. He said, no. Wait a minute. I'm a Christian man now. I'm a follower of Jesus Christ. It's fact above logic. And our common law tradition is not about logic. It's about fact. It's about fact. I testify to you. And I've said this, Roger. I'll say it again. When somebody says and you hear them say, our problem is we're not training children to be critical thinkers, critical thinkers.
Logic. Run from people like that. People don't need to be taught critical thinking and logic. No, no. They need to be taught how to discern fact. And once you've got the right fact, you will, by nature, think. Now you've been doing it all your life. You may have had the wrong facts. You can't stop thinking. You're a you're a a son of Adam. That's the way God made us. That's what we do. We live by logic. God help us. We hope we have the right discernment of fact. Discernment's an important subject in the Bible. It is throughout Roger, go ahead. I said, oh, boy. Discernment's incredibly important. Yeah. And the the key word in the Old Testament for discernment, the key Hebrew word is kadosh.
Kadosh, and it's consistently translated holy or holiness. I'll get and there's a reason for that. The key word in the New Testament, hagios. It's a Greek word, hagios. And it's consistently translated holy or holiness. And the Latin Vulgate is translated sanctus or sanctify or sanctification. Those are Latin words, but what it means is, it's translated in the old English, holy. Well, what is holiness? Listen to me close, friends. Kadosh of the Old Testament. Hagios of the New Testament. English. Holy. Be ye holy, for I am holy. That's big stuff. The theme of the book of Leviticus is holiness. What is it?
If you missed this, you missed the big picture, you missed the fact of the matter. The fact of the matter is those words mean they signify the honed ability that's honed finer and finer and finer as you go through your Christian life, honed ability to to tell apart one thing from another, to look at a bunch of things and say, wait a minute. I see something near different in that item of all these things and something that others don't see. Have you ever noticed? The evil empire wants to obliterate all distinctions. There are no men and women. There are no there are no right and wrong religions.
There are no right and wrong opinions. We should not criticize anybody for what they are and what they say. There is no heaven or hell. There is no Christianity different than other religions, of course. They want to obliterate all that, all of it, and make everything uniform. Uniform. There are no distinctions. Holiness means you draw distinctions. You look at the book of Leviticus, what you will see, it'll say, you tell apart, you distinguish the holy from the unholy, the clean from the unclean, the man from the woman.
And I'm just touching touching the edges of the book of Leviticus, but the whole Bible, you could characterize it as a Bible that gives us the power and the ability and, through the Spirit of God, the discipline to discern facts. And if you can't do that to a fine distinction, or a finer and finer distinction, as you get better at it, it takes time. It takes exercise. It takes years. But you start with the new birth, because then you have the spirit of God that gives you the ability to start learning. And he will teach you to discern right from wrong, up and down. How many people did I see? And I watched when they came out and they said, oh, there's a, there's a virus and it's it's, born. If you put a diaper on your head, you won't get it. Or it'll it'll maybe help you to keep not getting it or something.
I looked at that and I'm not bragging. I'm just stating the facts of the matter. And I saw the whole world go mad and wanna get stabbed. I saw them do it. People who I thought had brains.
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Right. Educated.
[01:20:29] Unknown:
We're talking, Roger, you know, PhDs and stuff promoting this and believing it. I saw my friends doing it. And I said, I'm not the smartest man in the world. I grew up on the on the farm for crying out loud. I waited more Hogman than I did, education. And I said, these people are insane. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but I can see them. This is a lie. This is a lie. That's called discernment. You know, it's a lie. Now we're no. I'm not bragging. No. No. No. And there I've been fooled before plenty of times, and I continue to be fooled. Don't misunderstand me. But I'm fully convinced and confident after all these decades, I can see it, that the spirit of God is making finer and finer my dis my ability to distinguish fact from error.
And I do say it was clear to me. There are men and women. There are no third entities. It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. I can see that. And we need to get back to fundamentals here. There is right and wrong, heaven and hell, saint and ain't, black and white. And God has no gray areas in his mind. That's just another word gray areas or just another word for human ignorance. It's our job as Christian men and women to become better and better and better as was said of John Wycliffe. John Wycliffe, the first man to translate the Bible in English, is said as his life went on, he lived through the plague there in England when half the population died.
He survived. And a a whole lot of things were in flux in those days. They tried him for his life. And as all these things happened to him and men like John Knox, but a galley slave for four and a half years with an iron collar around his neck just covered with lice for four and a half years. Nothing but starving. When it all came out the other end, black was a lot blacker and white was a lot whiter, and the gray areas in his mind had shrunk quite a bit. You take the whooping. You get taken to the woodshed enough times, and more and more and more, your discernment becomes finer and finer and finer. And I I'm not even close to what I'm supposed to be, but I what I'm saying is I am fully confident, But I'm I got my nose headed in the right direction, called righteousness, right headedness.
And I wish that for other people that they'd be on that same road, and run as fast as you can from antichrist wherever you see them. Yeah. Latch on. Got it. The the bible yeah. Go ahead, Roger. Well, me, it was Joe. Joe, good morning.
[01:22:53] Unknown:
Hi, Joe. It's Ken.
[01:22:57] Unknown:
Oh, no. It's not. He doesn't come around here anymore.
[01:23:01] Unknown:
Oh, well, I drag my knuckles to the phone.
[01:23:04] Unknown:
Okay. Well, good to hear your voice. Sorry to get you confused with the the gentleman to the north of you there a little bit.
[01:23:12] Unknown:
Oh, it's okay. I've I've got Mojo. So you're halfway. Right?
[01:23:17] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:23:19] Unknown:
Boy, you covered so much territory. I, I have so many comments, but let me get back to one before you get too far from it. In Galatians chapter two, I believe it is, maybe also on three. It talks about how Peter is sent unto the circumcision and Paul to the uncircumcision. So there's no way that you could claim the, authority of Peter to run a universal church, just on that alone. So I've always found that amusing that they claim the authority of Peter to do what they do when it specifies that he's for that group only. And, and then, oh my gosh. You covered so much. Let me see if I should have taken some notes instead of counting on my ever aging synaptic gaps.
The gray area thing I've always found interesting because I used to get chastised by my father saying you you can't handle gray areas. Everything's black and white to you. And I always thought, shouldn't that be a compliment? I mean, I don't I didn't see it as a problem. But, getting back to the issue of of reformers and John
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Calvin Well, before you before you do, I'm going to wait. Wait. Before you do, I wanna insert something quickly, if I may. You made the mention you're you're young, black and white. And, it's been my experience, and I think I've seen it in others, that when people become Christians, they realize they've been born from above, things all of a sudden get black and white. And often they think they know everything. That's true. Just like a little boy thinks he's smarter than his father as he gets older, and then after he gets to be, he leaves home, he's surprised how much his father has learned in the last two or three years. And that's a quote from Sam Clemens. So, yeah, there is that when you're young. I think it can happen. You think things are black and white. I went through that. I thought I was pretty smart.
But then I discovered that I was wrongheaded at that point, and, the spirit of god slapped me down like a redheaded stepchild and then later on beat me like a rented mule. And, that helped,
[01:25:45] Unknown:
correct some of that. And I'm still going through that, of course. But go ahead with your you're still I was just gonna say, though, the world's a lot easier to navigate when you can break it down to black and white.
[01:25:55] Unknown:
It is, and God does that. Let's start with what God does in the book. He does break it. Yeah. He says this for example. He says, he who hath the Son of God hath life. And he who hath not the Son of God hath not life. And the wrath of God hangs as by a thread over him. That's black and white. And that's John the Apostle. And by the way, John the Apostle, in all of his writings, five writings of the New Testament, he's the black and white Apostle. Everything to him is either up or down, in or out, saint or ain't, and heaven or hell, etc.
And so when you start reading the Bible, it's my strong suggestion that you start with John's writings. And I would say start with first John. Five short chapters. Read them. And then go to the gospel. Read them. I like to say read them the five chapters of John every morning when your mind's fresh every day for thirty days. And then go to the gospel of John and divide it up. There's 21 chapters divided up into three sections of seven chapters each, and read seven chapters each day for thirty days, then go to the next seven chapters. He'll give you, he'll he'll give you John. Well, he's the jury foreman. So he comes out with his verdict. You know what verdicts?
Verdicts are up or down. It's either guilt or innocence. We don't ask the jurors to render their opinions about anything. We just say you got two choices, guilty or not guilty. That's it. And they do. Black and white. And that's it's John is John comes across that way, in or out, up or down. And so when you read him, it's a good place to start because he does give you what you can know and what you need to know in black and white as you begin this journey down the Jericho Road, as they say. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[01:27:43] Unknown:
Well, it's interesting because he's also mentioned in Galatians chapter two, as under the, circumcision or to excuse me, to the circumcision only and not the uncircumcision. So I think that's because of the the law perspective of those, under circumcision versus the, Pauline type gospel, not under the law. But that's I try to be brief, and I'd like to say more. But, you make so many points I wanna comment on. I can't get back. So I'll just try to stay on point. Regarding Calvin, I hear a lot of people, get distracted from reformed theology due to Calvin or Calvinism because of what he did. And I'm not making excuses for what he did. However, in light of the persecution of the Protestant faith and or, you know, the Waldenses and others who weren't technically Protestant, And, and burning at the stake and having their heads lopped off and, and tortured and mutilated and all of these things and millions of people.
It doesn't justify what Calvin did, but when you have somebody within your midst that is sabotaging what you're doing in that environment, I can see how somebody could make that mistake to do that, which again, I'm not justifying it. I'm trying to put it in the light so that people don't miss out on reformed theology because of that emotional distraction.
[01:29:49] Unknown:
It might be a good idea real quick. Yeah. Real quick. Just to say, what is reformed theology? And to put it bluntly, that's a fancy word that we talk about because we're a product of reformed theology in America. What is reformed theology? It's just what the Bible says instead of the pope. That's fundamentally the way it was looked at. And when you say, well, what the Bible says, that covers a lot of stuff that people tend to reject in their humanness. That's the truth, namely the bigness and the sovereignty of God in all things. Back to you.
[01:30:23] Unknown:
Absolutely, the sovereignty of God. And, well, it it you know, it it's hard to be really brief on that, but, you know, when you have the discussions of Armenianism and Pelagianism and and all of these isms, it it gets back to the truth of the gospel and our freedom in Christ and Christ as our king. And no man, no system, no, nothing in the horizontal realm. It's a vertical relationship. And we have direct access to the father through Christ and only through Christ and by Christ alone. Sola Christos. But I guess I'll leave it at that. You just you make so many comments, Brent. It's it's hard to keep up with them all and Yeah. Without taking notes. But thank you very much. And I I appreciate your, education on the in lieu of aspect of antichrist because so many people are, you know, trying to say, you know, it's Ronald Wilson Reagan or it's so and so and so and so, and and it's really more about, your relationship with Christ, and or a synthetic or fake version of access to God, but I yield.
[01:32:03] Unknown:
Good to hear your voice, Ken. It's been way too long. Another one of those old timers that drops back by every now and then. Come in.
[01:32:12] Unknown:
Yep. Paul, was that you? You wanna say something? Yeah. I take antichrist as not so much a person as a thing or an idol of sorts. It's not it's not just one guy. Okay? No. No. There can literally be as many antichrists as there are stars in the sky. You know? It's anything that goes against Christ or against God would be an antidote. Or in place of. In place of. Exactly.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. And and if if it's in place, if something's in place of Jesus Christ, it's against Christ. But the the key to the understanding this from from the biblical point of view and my studied opinion for what it's worth is to understand it in place of and understand that, he who the the antichrist is the one that comes along, and he he didn't say, I'm against Christ. He says, I'm here to help Jesus Christ. That's the the distinction that I think must be stressed. So the antichrist, the or or the beast, under that understanding of antichrist is not the antichrist.
Because the antichrist comes along and says, hey, man. I'm for Jesus Christ. He's the wolf in sheep's clothing. Mhmm. He's the angel of light that looks so beautiful and good. How could it not be Christian? He got a Christian label. He he wears pretty clothes. He's a member of a powerful, influential organization. That's the antichrist. And he says, I love Jesus Christ. How isn't it something when some big shot famous movie star or some famous football player says, I'm a Christian? Everybody flocks to them and says, wow. We need to hear what he's gonna say. And then he makes a lot he or she can make a lot of money, become very popular trying to teach the Bible and making comments like the pope of Rome. I mean, what does the pope of Rome ever say, but let's just all love each other and quit fighting? Has he ever said anything else? Of certain substance, no, that popes don't say anything. They just want that money to keep coming. The way to do that, they're chameleon. No matter where they are, they change. They morph. They allow other gods to come in, and you can see it all over the world. Right. Yeah. So it comes down to recognizing the one that says, hey. I'm I'm for Jesus Christ.
I'm not against him. Like Ahab said, hey. What what are you saying I don't worship you, God for? I I even named two of my children after him. You know? I use biblical names. That doesn't that make me a Christian? And the answer is no. You could be an antichrist playing a game. Yeah. Yeah. The apostates. We went over the apostates to the book of Jude. They are among you. They're they're they're praying. You ask them to pray. They pray beautiful prayers. The Pharisees said, Jesus Christ make beautiful long prayers standing on the street corners. Oh, they look they look look wonderful.
They are messengers, that look beautiful, and they're delivering snake oil and arsenic. That's what Jesus Christ said. Then that's what we do are watchful. Well, you know, some of some of these these more,
[01:35:29] Unknown:
oh, influential, charismatic individuals that, have huge churches, yet only open them to shelter homeless people because of an ice storm in Texas. They only opened them up after the, viral social media backlash because they locked the doors on those days so that people couldn't get in, Or they passed the offering plate asking you to dig deep because they don't have enough jet aircraft or their house isn't big enough or they need to expand the church to yet serve additional souls. Yes. There you go. There's there's Antichrist from front to back, and I'm not mentioning any names. I'm not. Of course not. I'm not mentioning any names.
[01:36:20] Unknown:
Ken, were you trying to chime in? I thought you did. Go go ahead. I got I think that I wanna talk about this part thing in a minute. So I I want a little time here at the end. Go go ahead, Keith. Okay.
[01:36:32] Unknown:
I think that there was an antichrist, but the antichrist could only be around when there was a temple. And so I think leading up to the destruction of the temple in seventy AD, not actually the destruction of the temple, but up to that point, there were several factions that were, had taken control of the Temple Mount and, had actually set themselves up in the temple. And, without I just don't have enough time to explain all that, but I think that is who the antichrist was when they desecrated the temple and then thus the destruction of the temple in 8070.
Trying to be so very brief, it's very difficult, but that's what I have to say. And, and, oh, and by the way, I did, I did guess that the pope was gonna be from Chicago. I thought that was You did? Very interesting. I yield. I did. Yeah.
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Well, I saw I was sitting here yesterday, and it was kinda cloudy and misty. I didn't feel like getting out. And so I was just watching, Alex there when it all started happening with the white smoke and all that stuff. There's certainly a big celebration there yesterday. I can tell you that. He is, if you don't know, from Chicago, but I heard they let the commentary run on whatever feed they were showing. And the commentators were talking, I guess, Catholic wise, a lot of the Catholics understand this probably more than us non Catholics, but everything changed in the sixties in the second something of Nicaea or whatever it was. And that's when
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Vatican two.
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Okay. Well, look who's there. And, what has happened is the the the guy that just died, the Argentinian, a couple of weeks before he died, this new cardinal was brought on, the guy that's the new pope. He set this up to continue the church's path that he had helped to go along with all the pedophilia and everything else that's the majority of the cardinals that elect the pope. And so this guy evidently was handpicked by Francis, walked in a a little bit ahead of time into the cardinal ship so he could become the pope. He spent a lot of time down here in South America in Peru, and with a sect of Jesuits down here.
And, so he's got a rotten background. It's probably gonna get worse than it was under Francis. That's what these people were saying. And, and he's only he he was born in '55, so he's gonna be there for a while. Welcome, Paul. How you doing, man?
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I'm just all giddy about potpourri. I know you are. Hey. It's so exciting, isn't it?
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Well, it sure was to a bunch of the people in that square yesterday.
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I know. They're just they all got dressed up. Isn't it lovely?
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But it may be potpourri, but it doesn't smell like flowers. That's for sure.
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Yes. They were happy for flowers and waving flags from every country in the world. And evidently, this new guy is going to move the church more towards China, and they put the American in because he was of the same ilk and to combat Trump. So we'll see where it's all gonna go. I don't know too much about it, from the Catholic side. I've only picked up stuff over the last few years. I was never around it when I was young. So, anyway, quite interesting. They were joyous, Paul. They were joyous.
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Hey. I got an idea. I got an idea. If they're gonna move move Catholics in the potpourri closer to China, maybe we should just help them start loading the boats right now.
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China's going evidently, he's going through some real hard times right now. They're even having riots. A lot of businesses closing. They keep orders are coming in, so they can't keep employees on full time, and they're putting them out on vacation. A lot of the factories with non high skilled labor are moving to India. There are a lot of real interesting factors going on in the world right now. Paul, I wish I'd known you were there, my friend. Right. I was always glad to have you. Yes, sir. Is that Ken again?
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Yes. I'd like to just my little take on it, is I call it AI, asymmetrical inquisition.
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I yield How clever. Do you have some clever folks around here?
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I was just sat here, Roger, listening to Brent's great exposition and stuff. It was great. Particularly the bit about C. H. Spurgeon. I've had his, I had his sermons on file for years. There's a mere 3,500 of them. Woah. Prolific. So if you think you can talk a bit, stand back. It's outrageous.
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Wow. Yeah. It's absolutely
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overwhelming. Yeah. You like to talk a bit, that lad.
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How are y'all doing over there these days?
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Oh, we're very happy, of course. Just as happy as we were last time, Roger. Okay. Good. It's, yeah, we've had, the big deal over here the last week has been a commemoration of VE Day, the May 8, victory in Europe Day. So, they've been flying Lancaster bombers over Buckingham Palace on Monday, just gone and things like that. And, Keir Starmer was lurking around all that trying to obviously align himself with some kind of national sentiment even though I don't think he even knows what the word sentiment means. He's he certainly doesn't know what the word sentient means because he's he's just a well, he's just a sort of strange thing, really. He's very, very odd. Yeah. He is. He's just, he's just odd.
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Yeah. He he makes the sign there. Right? He's an odd he's an odd duck. Isn't that what they say over there?
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Yeah. Well, yeah, or an odd egg or a bad egg or all that kind of stuff. He's He fits all of them. Yeah. But some of the discussions on the radio stations have been pretty good this week because of it and getting this sort of, take on what the normal common English working man and woman think about this. And it's, everybody's, thinks it's a, an event worth commemorating, and it is because it's about the end of a war. But there've also been a lot of people questioning, you know, the theme of what we were discussing yesterday and this, what what what is it we won exactly?
I'm sorry. Can you actually point out what it is that we won? I'm hard pressed to see where the fruits are from all this. In fact, of course, there's less than there's ever been. So and some good comments.
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Little clip this morning on Harrison. There was a hundred and one year old English gentleman that fought in World War one. Have you seen that? And just lamenting over what what the hell was I fighting for?
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Absolutely. Well, yeah, it's always a common theme. It's been shared by many people. You know? So, they they were fighting to, to obviously lose the nation to, let's just call it communism, basically. Yeah. I mean, that's really what happened Yep. Is that communism moved into Central Europe, because Winston Churchill had to do his master's bidding, and he was quite keen to do it anyway when he was sober. And, you know, a great orator, if you're into all that stylistic stuff and fine use of language, he's as good as you could find in any sort of place of that. There's no doubt. Unfortunately, he's batting for the wrong team, And he was playing for himself all the time. And, so a wretch in my book and, one of the worst curses that this nation's ever received. A terrible man.
And it's just finding ways to say that, kindly, you know, to most English people who understandably think he did a lot of good.
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I'm not one of them, for obvious reasons. I know. We were all all on the surface and rotten underneath. Do you think that operation Barbarossa, when Hitler sprung the invasion into Russia, that if he wouldn't have done that, that Stalin may have been able to take Europe over?
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Well, there's several books written to that effect, and they they tend to hold a lot of water the way I read them. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I mean, he said, not that we were talking about all the military stuff. I I'm sort of more interested on why the nation is so rotten since 1945, because this concerns, obviously, the people that are alive right now. And that's very important that they keep on getting irritated as far anything will do. Irritation, anger, it's all good as far as I'm concerned because it's part of the uncomfortable waking up process. But, I mean, with regard to that question, what are you supposed to do if this if there's six and a half million men sitting on the Polish border that just happened to be an army and a Russian one at that? I mean, it's got to move, doesn't it? I mean, if you think about it, I don't know how much it costs to feed and provide toilet facilities for six and a half million men every day, but it's not cheap, is it? No. And it moved all that manufacturing
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close to that to so that when they did pull the trigger on that, they'd have logistics where they could keep up and support everything. And as I can't go I understand it. Hitler, as he mowed them over because they weren't expecting it, he went over and took over their factories that they were planning to use against him. It was pretty smart move on, Adolf's part.
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It was. I guess, you know I mean, obviously, these military things can be discussed for a long time and no doubt will be. But I tend to the view that it gives it lends it lends weight to the argument that they were fighting a defensive war. Of course, it's not portrayed that way over here, understandably, because it doesn't suit the the narrative of the so called victors. We we're apparently a victor in all of this. So, and it's just like you're referring to that clip from that chap. You know, what is it exactly that we won? My nation's, a complete ruin, which it is in many ways. I mean, not in the people themselves, but in terms of the hierarchy and the power structures and what they think is important. It's not what the people ever thought was important, but, of course, we're never consulted.
That's there's nothing new about that. But, I mean, I think the best way to do it is just view your own situation. If you knew that the neighboring nation had six and a half million man army sitting on your border, and if it got moving towards you, you're likely to get wiped out, what would you do? And, I mean, the first question you ask is why is it there in the first place? What's he doing? Why does it need to be so damn big? Yeah. So, you know, I think these things have to be thought about a little bit. It's it's too easy to just paint everybody as good and bad, and, and it's not true in my book. I just can't see it that way. It doesn't make sense. You know, the whole event is a complete tragedy and was wholly avoidable, except, you know, I tend to side I was reading from it yesterday. I tend to side with, a section of the letter that Hermann Goring wrote from his prison cell in Nuremberg directly addressed to Churchill, where he basically says it's because of you and your stubborn obstinacy and the class of people that you ran with that would not leave Germany in peace.
But because they made this, as David Irving has pointed out, there are 37 letters of peace offerings that the Germans sent prior to hostilities that are sat in Kew Gardens military records office right now. But the British public don't know this. It's probably mentioned once or twice in the last eighty years. Everybody's familiar with Rudolf Hess coming over of his own volition Mhmm. A complete shock as I understand it to the German high command. They were appalled that he'd done such a thing, but he was desperate to avoid a war between our nations because it's, as it's proved to be, the Germans in their assessment of what would happen have been correct.
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Well, certainly As I look back on this and learn more, go along, get a piece here, piece there, Seems to me that the first real shot of World War two was the worldwide boycott on German goods. And that was done because Hitler you know this guy. I think he was, reading a different economist's work. And instead of going through the international, monetary channels, if you will, they were using basically barter between countries to avoid that. And that brought on the boycott. Am I right there, Paul, from your knowledge?
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I I think in very plain language, yes. I think that's certainly a key part. It wouldn't have been in the totality of all the reasons, I think. It's difficult to see through all the sort of propaganda that was whipped up, you know. That's how propaganda was conducted back then in a much more sort of dramatic fashion. Right. Because there were what did they have? Newspapers and radio. That's what you got back then. That's it. It's enough though. It was was certainly enough to get everybody revved up about things and to demonize that nation enough. But it's you know, from my perspective, most of the English huge numbers of the English are Saxons. Yeah. People forget this. We're actually brothers.
So, again, it's not, it's just that old story that it's those at supposedly the top of the human power centers that organize these things, and they never get touched by a bullet or anything much. No. And they wiped out you know, the idea of bombing women and children is obscene, and that was Churchill's great contribution to world warfare. Good lad, Top load.
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Sorry. Well, but I'm I know that boycott. If you sold any German goods in your store, the newspapers would not allow you to advertise. Didn't it start in Chicago, though, where the pope comes from? Well, it could have. It started in Chicago, I think. It might have. I just know some of the facts I picked up. Most people don't even know about the worldwide boycott on German goods. You know? And to me, that was the real that was the nucleus of it is economics. It's always the Tired of the, isn't it? The users. He was tired of the users controlling, yes, in a second. He was tired of the users controlling their government, their newspapers, their banks, everything just like they do today. Who who's got a comment?
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It's Ken again. I have a new theory that I'm working on. And, again, it's just a a theory, or should I say hypothesis? Anyhow, there's a lot of question about who the, Jesuits actually are, where they came from. And, based on that change in thinking and the fact that Hitler was a Catholic and he designed the SS, he modeled them after the Jesuits. And, since I only have a six second sound bite, I'm trying to make this as brief as possible, which is extremely difficult. So Hitler, was not blonde hair, blue eyed man. And so the short version is I think it was all set up to kill as many white men as possible.
Yep. Much more to say, but I think that's what it's all about.
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Well, you know, getting rich on Christians, killing Christians is good business.
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I tend to agree with that. I think it was probably even a ritual, sort of like a satanic ritual part of it. Yeah. Yeah. They do all these things, don't they, on their dates and stuff, and they say it's an accident or whatever. But,
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I heard the story of this guy that was involved with one of these big time corporations. And when they went to the board meetings, they always had an open chair at the end of the table.
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Yes. For the boss.
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Yep.
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Yeah. I think the Rothschilds is purportedly supposedly always had a place laid for him at at breakfast. Maybe more than breakfast. I don't know. So, you know, he would rock up and never would eat his bacon and eggs.
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What a waste. I was listening to your boy Stormer this week, Stormer, whatever his name is, with the with the trade deal they signed the other day. He's not mine. I don't really want him. Do you want him? Well, he's from your neck of the woods. Yeah. And, he was he did constantly call Trump Donald. Yes, Donald. I thought, oh, it was presumptuous.
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He's an elf. He's just he's an incredibly this is the guy that couldn't say the word hostages and said, let's go and save the sausages. You remember that? Right? You heard that sound? And then he couldn't say the Nobel pre Peace Prize. It was the mobile phone prize. I'm serious. It was just it's just gobbledygook. He's inept. He's just he's so he's so unaware of his own shortcomings that there's no way he could learn anything. I mean, he's just literally, he's like a goody two shoes in class. He's a box ticker when he passes exams. He's obviously not stupid per se, but he he lacks human qualities, which I thought were probably pretty important in in his field of work anyway.
And just to think he's probably the best of them. I'm serious. I mean, that's the
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World War
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point. Alright. Hold on. Brent, did Julie get right to you? To chime in, and maybe we'll let, the the lady talk. But, at some point, maybe after she makes a comment, I I wanna pose the question about, we've seen a great change in England, and Paul referenced that. And since World War two and I read history, and I I can see it too. Of course, I've lived some of it post war. I've watched the changes here and there, and I don't like what I'm seeing. And the question I pose is, what is what am I gonna do about it? What can I do? What should I do? What would God have me do? So we can maybe talk about that in a little bit, but,
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did somebody have a comment? Julie, what did you have, sweetie?
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Yeah. Just, I'm enjoying the conversation. Thank you. And I just heard some information about, you know, being spoken to about the Jesuits and everything. There's an incredible interview on ninoscorner.tv. I know I always help that, but it's between Nino and, Leo Zagami,
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this Italian. Oh, he's yeah. Oh, he's sharp. He was all over the country.
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This interview. It's unbelievable. He explains the black black pope, the black no no no no no no no. Bill no. Bill no. Bill no. Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill
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He said yesterday, of course, he was a little bit ruffled because this new guy took on pope Leo. And he was named Leo Vagami, was named after the previous Leo, the thirteenth, about a hundred years ago, who was evidently a very, very good pope and did a lot of social reform and a lot of stuff, and he was named after him. So he took a little bit of umbrage to that yesterday. Very he's evidently one of the more reliable go to subjects in on this in our in in The US.
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An old Yes. And he's incredible. So everybody I recommend go to Nino's Corner and go watch that interview because it's incredible. I yield. Yep. Thank you, Julie.
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Thank you very much.
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Or somebody have something to say? Paul, please come back. Now talk to us. What what where were we? You were just gonna say something just then, I think.
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Well, that that last comment by Julie about Leo Zagami, I mean, he's he's been around quite a bit, and the the interviews are very good. So I might look that one up myself if I can get a little bit of time. I think I don't it's also worth making a reminder. I know we've mentioned it before here at times. The book by Tupper Saucie called Rumors of Evil. I I would say, you know, there's only a few books I would say. You ought to if you're really interested, you must read a book, but that's absolutely a must read. It's a very difficult read as well because each paragraph is crammed with so much information and sort of relating and stuff. But the the context for the book is, very arresting.
He descends from huger nose to source him, and he passed now early two thousand, I think it was, so he's no longer with us. No. And he's the guy that really came to fame from writing Miracle on Main Main Street, which was about the financial system. It was about the tax system. Yep. He was That's right. A tax protester and IRS came after him after that book. He said, bro, I knew him,
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Paul. I don't know if you know that or not. Not well. Well, I'm glad you knew him. That was great. I'm glad you knew him. That's great. And, I I saw that when he came through Atlanta and did the presentation on rulers of evil. I was at that. We had a mutual friend. And, this is something interesting he said. I was talking to him right before he died, actually, on trying to show him what we've got here with our fourteenth amendment and stuff. And, of course, his old premise is the Catholic church is behind all of it, which I can't dispute. Okay? And, but this is what he said. And he he stopped and said, no, Roger.
Don't you understand they can only rule evil?
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It's a it's a really arresting concept. It's it's so amazing book. It is amazing. Very profound, what I just told. It is.
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Okay. They can only rule evil. So, anyway, yeah, great man, Tupper. What, Julie?
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Yeah. I was gonna ask, Paul, was that book about, the part that was played by the Jesuits in promoting all the rebellions Yes. England in 1779?
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Yes.
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It's all about the Jesuits. It's about it's about the Jesuit order and, as its title says I mean, I think, you know, I'm remembering I'm sort of recalling from memory. In the intro or the foreword, he's talking about that how do you know, the question is, how does God restrain and contain evil? How do you do that? You have an evil force to deal with that. You use evil to constrain evil. And, Saucy gets very delighted by this when he's explaining it to a publisher. He says don't you see it's perfect. It just works out. It's all in scripture and this is what's going on. It's it is one of those books that I think will provide a few little revelatory insights as you go through it,
[02:00:00] Unknown:
slowly. I think I have the book. I think I have the book and I started it and I didn't finish it, but I doesn't he also make the argument that the faculty runs The United States foreign, all the foreign policy of The United States? Yeah. Yes. He does.
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Mhmm. Okay. I'm gonna have to go find that book. I think I have it on my computer. It's all hit it was just It's an amazing book. It's the only way it was published is a tabletop book, and his children still maintain that website, I believe. And you can purchase it in that format, but it's floating around on PDF on the web. You'll get it really worth the weed, the read, Julie. Well, he's got some stuff in there. I started it. I started it. I just didn't finish it. I gotta go find it. Thank you. He was quite a guy, you know. Well, let's we're about to cut off on the audience here. So, Brent, as always, thank you. If you wanna get more Brent winners, I'll do this for you. Commonlawyer.com. All kinds of stuff on there, and you can you can give donations and get incredible research books and all that stuff. And you can hear Brent pretty much here if we can get our Skype stuff or whatever straight every Friday. So and we're happy to have him. So thank you very much. We'll see you tomorrow.
Gosh. Now I forgot where I was going.
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Well, thank you, Roger and Paul. Thank you for chiming in, and we look forward to seeing you again or hearing you. I'm not seeing you. Always. Yep. You'll get to see the Yorkshire rose,
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at least.
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Well, you'll get to see the something.
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It is And we're trying to talk him into buying a webcam. Ah,
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yeah. I'm I'm out there begging for a webcam, you see. Oh, I I know.
[02:01:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I forgot. I was going somewhere. We closed off the show right there, but, of course, always tickled to death that Paul dropped by. And, the shows with Brent on Friday are well, they're just unique, and they're they're wonderful. And, he and I both get so much out of it, evidently, the audience too. And we really appreciate you taking the time to be with us on a regular basis, Brent. Be part of our big extended family here.
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Well, it seems that we're many of us here are got our nose pointed in a similar direction Right. Right. And, kindred of spirit. And this thing about Tupper Salsy is, extremely meaningful to me. I I have my buddy my buddy, represented him when when he went to prison. And, so I I got to know about him that way. By the way, he wrote a a famous song that was big on the charts for a long time. He won a Grammy. Yeah. Yeah. But here's what he says. And it's it it I think he has said many things, and you've mentioned some of them. But he was big on, visual aids to worship. Of course, being of Huguenot extraction, he thought that visual aids to worship are idolatry, and yours truly agrees with him 197%.
And he talks about that. Then he talks about the seals of the nations and the the sovereigns of this earth. And he says ultimately, what he says is these seals are the idol that give genuine authority to evil. And that's right. I took issue with him, but I'm but I'm not saying he's not right headed on things. I think he is. We all have disagreements, but I still think about that a lot. It's always been my conviction throughout my idea quickly and tersely and succinctly is that no man has a right to do wrong. Period.
And if I follow his point of view, he's saying that, evil men have genuine authority to do right. Now there's when I go to the Bible, I I I watch for this real close because of having read that book, and I'm seeing some obscurity there. God obviously allows evil. Now that's called permission. It's called license. Mhmm. Clearly, he could stop any of it. He wanted to, but he chooses not to for, obviously, to glorify himself. In the meanwhile, we're almost I don't wanna use the word pawns, but like Job in the book of Job, we're suffering the consequences of God always getting his glory no matter what. We don't deserve anything. We're sinners. We're worthy of death according to the Bible. That's not me saying it. We're worthy of death, yet he has he has taken care of us. Well, and he saved us from hell. No. No. Let me put it more succinctly about that. He didn't save us from hell, really. Ultimately, what god saved what Jesus Christ saves us from is himself.
Because the Bible says he is the one that hurls men into hell. That's quite a concept too. Well, coming back to topper topper, not topper, topper, sausage. The idea that god clearly, the bible teaches, allows men to do their evil. He he turns the devil himself loose. The devil himself reports to him and is subject to him. We learned that from the book of Job Job, the first chapters. But, still, I have trouble with this concept. Does does any man have a right, that is authority, that is jurisdiction, to do wrong? I'll leave it at that because I gotta run. I wish I could stay, but I'm sure the discussion,
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well, it could be lively here for a while. Sometimes it is. Yeah. Occasionally. It's probably gonna break up today because I'm starving too. But thank you, Brent, as always. I was just gonna tell Paul in the audience that how about Tupper's background. He was from Tampa because I had a caller one time that called into the show that had been in a band he had been in back when they were kids. And then he went up to Nashville and started an advertising agency, obviously quite bright. He was very successful at it. Was a songwriter and all that. As I said a minute ago, won a Grammy. That's no easy feat.
And then he stumbled into the tax movement and the article in every state's constitution where it says you can only pay taxes with gold and silver. And that's when they crossed swords, and that's where he wrote that book Miracle on Main Street that started everything. They convicted him of failure to file. He was supposed to turn himself in. He went on the lam. He got found a a a wealthy woman and married very, very well. And for ten years in an RV on the lam, traveled around the country. And that's when he researched all this stuff with the rulers of evil. He's really a good guy. Certainly sorry to see him pass, but I was privileged and honored to have that little interaction with him.
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Well, he also self self reported to prison. The judge said and he reported he couldn't let nobody let him in. He banged on the doors. He hung around for a long time. He couldn't get in, and he just finally left. That's what happened. Yeah. Went on the lam. Or ten years. If you won't take me, I'll just go.
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That's the government. They're not comfortable with that. There you go. Thank you, Brent. You're right. And, we'll see you. Thank you, Brent. Thank you. Oh, try and make this a little a little more seamless next week. So save that link. It's all a Skype fiasco, Paul.
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It's always all fun and games, isn't it? Oh, yes. It is. It's just it's so charming.
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Hello. So anything else going on? Did somebody have a question for Paul by any chance?
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Well, I have a question.
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This is Dan. Is the
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no. This is Chris from California.
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Oh, hey, Chris. Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah. What what is the what is the title of, of the book, Tucker Saucis book? Tupper Saucis? Rulers.
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Well, he had two. The first one was called Miracle on Main Street. It's about taxes. Yeah. The second one, the Rulers of Evil. Well worth acquiring and reading.
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Yeah. Is that saucy, s a u s I?
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No. S a u s e y? S s s a u s s s s a u s s double s e y.
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S a Yeah. S a u, double s, e y. Oh, double s e y. Yeah. Double s. The link for the archive book is in both chats in the conference call and in the Got it. Numeral two radio ranch dot chatango dot com.
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Thank you, Mer.
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And a bunch of other stuff that has been talking about. Good to hear everyone.
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Mhmm. Was it Julie who was saying earlier that she'd started to read it but couldn't finish it, oh, the first time? Yes. Well, I've lent my copy out to three people and it all came back with the same thing. I can't read it. Yeah. It was so funny. And then it was with a friend of mine for two years and I thought, oh, I need my copy and so I thought, oh, I'll buy another copy. So I went online, this is about four months ago and, I came across a copy to buy on Abe books for £650.
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Right.
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So if you've got a copy your quid's in. Or blind do it. Yes. I got him. So I called him up. I said, have you still got that book? He said, yes. I said, you looked after it. Okay. The dog's not been on it or anything. He said, no. It's fine. I said, good. Could you just bring it down to the pub next week? And then I told him, oh, right. Okay. There we go. And a good friend of ours, Chris, an elderly gentleman who's over, I said, Chris, have you got a copy of that? He said, yeah. I said, oh, you're a quidzin, mate. Because I only read the PDF anyway right now, but, yeah, nobody can get through it. I mean, the whole section's like on the Borgias occupying the the the pope becoming popes, all of this stuff.
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It's a labyrinthine reading, really. It's all these fast neck. Toasted stuff that back up everything he's saying, pull from the sources. I mean, it's just what's real tight and thorough. I'll tell you that.
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It is.
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Well worth reading.
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Mhmm.
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So, well, Paul, what's this? I we about video cameras and stuff that
[02:10:29] Unknown:
that I hear? I don't know. Paul's putting me up to it. It's terrible. Yeah. Every time I'm about to press the buy button, I go, do I really do I really want to do this? Is this wired? I'll threaten with not paying him if you want me to. Here's the deal.
[02:10:43] Unknown:
People prefer to actually watch the people that they're listening to. The theater of the mind thing is, like, so gone because they're they're all about entertain me with flashy things and get to the point. I only have, thirty second, attention span. So capitalize
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on that. Well, I'm sorry. Keep going probably.
[02:11:12] Unknown:
You see, we're boring old farts, Roger. We're stuck in a time walk. I don't really wanna come out of it either, but he's Paul's right because I've had all the same thoughts. You know? It's just Well, I just to see there, sit sit I don't have any backdrop, any of that fancy stuff, and you're just gonna sit there and watch me talk? Well, we are. If your linen's hanging up behind you, that'd be quite interesting. Yeah. Fine. Yes. Yes. That'd bring a human element to bay. It would Boy, would it. Blend atmosphere to proceedings, wouldn't it? Boy, good grief. Those really, your shorts. They really are.
You never get onto anything sensible. Yeah. Yeah. I I know. Stop talking about all that stuff. Let's see what's going on. You've got. Let's see if there's anybody in the audience that has any questions for Paul while he's with us here.
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We don't get to yak with him every day. So if you've never met Paul, wanna say hello, or have a question for him, now is your time.
[02:12:08] Unknown:
I think Well, I see Rumble. Rumble wouldn't let you, record over there yesterday. Right?
[02:12:16] Unknown:
No. It It's supposed to show up for ten seconds. I found out what went wrong with it. It's it threw, it threw some settings off internally, which are stable all the time. So it actually sent the feed to another channel, which it shouldn't have done. And I went and double checked. Anyway, it's all really rather boring technical stuff, but it's very frustrating.
[02:12:35] Unknown:
Oh, just that second channel you created?
[02:12:39] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's not even in as an option. It's actually killed off. I've killed it off. And it for some reason, it decided, oh, it's not dead. I'm just gonna send it there. So, yes, it was very frustrating. I actually found two and a quarter of but, of course, there was no one there because it's a dead channel. It's not it's rather boring technical stuff, but it drives me crazy.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
I can't stop. But at least now you have to go for fifteen minutes. I hate it. But but at least now you you can grab the complete archive that Rumble captured on the other channel and then upload it to your main channel.
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It's all good. I I I don't I know. I don't even need to do that. I I have another cunning plan. It's already done, actually. I did it this time. So I'll cunning plan. I have a I do have plan.
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I have a cunning plan. Listen. Listen to these voices. 10 times quick. Wanna see would we wanna see this? No. We wanna hear this. You don't wanna see that. That's distracting. Don't buy into the video. Thank you, Murrah. And yeah. And I'm resisting. And Tupper's first name was Frederick, by the way.
[02:13:42] Unknown:
Frederick. Well, I did not know that. I like Tupper better. That was a great name for him. I don't know if I've ever met anybody else named Tupper. And, I mean, I he was a really he was thin and not predominantly tall or short, about medium height. Thin, very, very pleasant to be around. Just nice guy.
[02:14:04] Unknown:
You know, very bright. What an You guys narrowly escaped having to call me p Gordon. My mother tried to name me p Gordon. And, a kindergarten teacher said, oh, no. You can't have a first initial as a as a name. He'll be ridiculed by everybody in the group and all that.
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She could It would have been the making of you, Paul, being ridiculed when you're young. It's hard, but it turns you into, you know, an abused child. You'd have been fine with it. Don't worry. You she could've just spelled it p e e. Mhmm. As in pea wing. Just leave.
[02:14:42] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. I'm feeling a little old about that too. Could've been on your methylene blue, and she could've called you a blue pee.
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Paul English.
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Yes. Hello.
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Hi. Hi. It's Julie again. I have a a question for you. Did you watch that interview on Rumble? The channel is Greg Hunter, USA Watchdog. He interviewed Martin Armstrong. Armstrong. Did you see Yes, Sandy. That happened to see that interview?
[02:15:12] Unknown:
Is it recent? I mean, I'm familiar Yes, Sandy. I follow Martin Armstrong, but I've not I I actually barely watch any videos at all. I just haven't got the time to sit down and watch. I I listen, but I can't watch because I'm doing other things. That's why I prefer audio. Last time.
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The chihuahua. Right. That's what we call. We call. We
[02:15:31] Unknown:
call him no We call him no Chihuahua. He's the chihuahua. The chihuahua.
[02:15:35] Unknown:
Do you know this word again? He had the he had Martin Armstrong, my last name. Listen. A lot of people listen to the podcast even if they are on video. So, you know, riding around, running around, whatever you're doing. But, yeah, I listened to that, and I'll post the links in there if you guys want. But why he's so accurate is the Socrates computer program. You probably all know that. And what did he predict for this year or did for this year, Pakistan
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and India going after it, and then that's what you're doing. Well, I also wanted to ask you, Paul English, one of the things he also predicted is war, between Europe and Russia because he basically said he was the one who was hired to go over there and help them with their euro. And when he was over there doing this, he kept on warning them that they needed to consolidate their debt and he didn't they didn't listen to him. He kept saying this will come come around to bite you in your rear end. In the future, if you don't do this now, they didn't listen to him. So now he's predicting also with his Socrates computer that, Europe's got to have a war with Russia. What are your thoughts on that?
[02:16:47] Unknown:
I think it's absolutely accurate. Sorry to step in in front of English, but let me also say Socrates has never been wrong. That's impressive. Go ahead, Paul.
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Well, I I it seems as though that of whatever you wanna call them, the buffoons at the top are intent on doing that. Europeans don't want to go to war. We're fed up of war being waged on us by the influx of millions of uninvited, unwanted, and incompatible, so called migrants. I mean, the thing about India and Pakistan, I was thinking, because they've just made a a decision over here. I don't know whether there'll be any Indians left in India. They're probably all gonna come to England where they can work for four years without paying any national insurance contributions.
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So No. Some of her is for Can some of her is for Canada. I'm telling you.
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Yeah. Well, it's just, you know, it's not every when you listen to the news pundits talk about it, they're always like, this is a terrible decision. I'm going, no. You're not you've got the wrong context. It's a great decision for them. All their decisions are for them. None of they don't work for you. And so the outrage is completely pointless, and no one will call it for what it is, which is warfare conducted through other means. That's what this is. And, not because they say so, but because it's literally that. We are not invited to communicate. We can't resolve our differences by communication. So they're just being resolved on our behalf no matter what we want. That's called war in my book, and that's what's being waged upon us.
And, you know, the Where are they? Some of the people they wheel on, they've had a couple of economics people or people talking about it. And there was some stupid bent on talk radio earlier this week. Some Irish lady who's just a goofball, I have no idea what she was, she was saying well Blackrock are coming over here to buy up some land that's good isn't it? I'm going people are clueless and the really scary thing is not that they're evil, it's that they're profoundly stupid. I mean, how do you deal with such levels of relentless stupidity? They don't understand anything.
And they really are people that have not had jobs literally in terms of most of the people in our gov so called government. They've never had a proper job. They don't understand anything about how human beings really work because they've lived their entire life in this sort of Westminster political bubble. Bizarre. Very dangerous. And, the peasants have got to revolt. There's no because if we don't, we we won't there won't be any peasants left. I mean, people are beginning to get it now that, some form of actions to be taken. Because everybody's being herded now in the political front to vote for reform, Nigel Farage's party. This is a complete waste of time. It's a lifeboat that's got holes in it already, and it won't work. It's just like all these other exit strategies that they build in, like pressure valve release points. It's nonsense, because none of them they're not addressing it either.
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They won't address it. Only have four or five members in this party?
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Maybe. I don't know. But they just they won loads of local council elections last Friday. Tons of them. Oh, I see. And, so which is an indicator of supposedly the mood of the country. The the problem is that there are certain topics that must be spoken about in an adult fashion. It's difficult to find an adult in there, and they certainly will not talk about these things. They will not talk about repatriation of all the people that are not British, and I mean all of them, personally. Of course, I'm not in charge, and I'd only last two minutes before I got shot. But this is the topic that is it's the number one topic.
In everybody's the they're going, well, this immigration thing is out of hand, but it's more than that. It's always been out of hand. It's been out of hand ever since we lost World War two. That's why all these threads come together. Ever since we lost World War two, the country's been wide open. It's got no defenses because it's governed by the very people that organized that war and not for our benefit.
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Yep. The bankers. The Jew bankers. Let's be let's be precise.
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And it's Well, we do. But we don't say that over here. And, actually, I found I know what you mean, Mur, but I don't use I don't I don't phrase it like that because it's actually more effective to not phrase it like that. Because what happens is that the listener will find that salient point out in their own good time. It's not important. If we make a carte blanche attack on the money power, that well, that's what I have to do over here anyway because it's, you know, it is the way it is. The inter international
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Can't say the word like any Just the money power. I just we just call it the money I call it the money power. That's it. And it's a it's a disease, and it's You can't even say it? I guess what? There's something going on now that's just really busting out over here and will probably spread worldwide. And that was somebody put up a sign. They pay you know, if they get a $500 bottle, booze, whatever, one of these Portnoy barstool joints. Right? So we got Portnoy's complaint now. So somebody put up a sign that says f the Jews. And, they're going after this, kid out of Temple University, Mohammed Khan. He goes by Mo Khan just because he put it up on his social media.
And, Dave Portnoy terrified him and said, oh, well, we'll take you to free trip to, he didn't even know it was in Poland. He thought it was in Germany, Auschwitz at first. But anyway, so we'll take you there straighten you out. Right? And, that way we won't dox you and all that stuff. But instead, they said they do that, but yet they started doxing them right away.
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Right away. I saw his rants the other day, Murr, from the first one where he was apoplectic and then subsequent ones. And he's taking these people out of his own pocket and flying them to Auschwitz.
[02:22:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they turned it down. The guy turned it down. He realized what he's saying. I thought he'd accepted. Well, that's good. Nope. He's not going, and, everybody's sticking up for him. He's making a circuit on all the talk shows, Jake Shields, and Stu Peters. You know, so it's really getting out there. It's really getting legs. So, we can still stay it say it here, apparently, at least for a while. But Dave Portnoy is really showing his his colors, his true colors because he was going around acting apparently like he's assimilated. Alright? And, against cancel culture, Brianna wears the shirts with cancel culture on there, and he's canceling the culture.
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Isn't he a Jew? Is he a Jew or not?
[02:23:14] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Well, that explains the need for the action. Yeah. I mean, he was treated like royalty go around tasting taste testing all the pizzas and giving his opinion and all. It's just bizarre and then he's, of course, filthy rich and but this just he couldn't take this. This just set him off that some boy would It did. A Muslim Muslim Indian,
[02:23:39] Unknown:
apparently. Yep. He's Indian. Fighting fire and bartenders and waitresses and just he was he went he went like, a cycle like crap, as they say. He went through, like, crap through a goose. He got rid of everybody. Yeah. He's just he's just ruining everybody's
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lives. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought it was pretty jerky what I saw. There's gonna be pushback. Yeah. There's gonna be pushback. So it might come up come across the pond there, Paul. The boy, this whole issue is really heating up.
[02:24:09] Unknown:
I I've never, over all these years, seen the exposure that it's getting on on both sides. And the more they get exposed, the harder they push. And the harder they push, the more people get exposed to them. I mean, it is the classic They always they always overreach, Roger. And everybody They do. I know. Watch what I was gonna say. It's the classic snake eating its tail logo. I mean, you're seeing it right in front of your eyes.
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Somebody actually took a picture of something in the sky that looked like that. Very weird. Yeah. An hour of a rest.
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Yep. Yep. Yep.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
Well, my stomach is bothering me to just wanting some Good job we don't have a webcam. Good job you don't have a webcam. Thank goodness we don't. I wouldn't wanna look at that. I must admit Growl. Some drawbacks, aren't they? Yes. It says that I get very irritable and short. That's kinda You know, Brent, my last little comment. You know Brent mentioned he was you know, how how do I He was making a self referring questions. You know, how do I deal with all this kind of stuff? What do I do in it? And, I I it's right at the forefront of my mind and has been for months, really, all this stuff, because the sort of the news cycles, even the alternative news cycles, I don't think are particularly helpful.
I've not learned anything really substantially new for many years now that not because I'm not looking, but because I think once you've got a certain amount of information and you've got the blueprint of how things work, all you're really doing is adding more and more sort of decoration to this cake, and you're more up to date. But fundamentally, things don't really change. And the thing that keeps coming back to me all the time is that the response that we can make, that I think I can make anyway, to globalism, which is obviously communism with its new name tag, is, localism.
And it's localism that's the answer. And I think it's like on all the so called little things, we can be such a disruptive and tiresome force for them without putting normal people's noses out of joint. If you introduce people to the harder levels of information, such as the Jewish issue and so on and so forth, the conversion rate is about one in a million. It's it's just useless, basically. It is over here. There's no point. It's you know, you could be have the patience of a million saints. You might find one person that's gonna come on over. It's just very ineffective. But if you talk to people about the fact that their bills are going up and why can't they get in control of stuff, you've suddenly got a lot of people's ears and attention. And I think it's that's the low hanging fruit, and it it's we keep looking at or I'm looking at things like we have these parishes over here. There's about 15,000 still laid on the old maps. They're still structured. The Church of England is, of course, a pathetic joke. It's literally a wolf in sheep's clothing. Maybe it's even a sheep in sheep's clothing. It's that lame.
But, there are good still good people in it. They've got all these buildings around. They've got all these halls. They're not being used. There's a a local energy, revival is required and to get people away from, almost impossible, their so called smartphones and things like this. I'm not against smartphones. It's just most people just fall into that world and they end up sort of being driven crazy by fear porn. And it shuts down all these possibilities. People are not walking enough. This might sound glib but I mean it. They're not walking enough. They're not talking to another another people in real life enough. They're hammering the pubs over here making them the pubs are not what they used to be. They used to be extremely colorful communication spaces. Let's put it that way. Now they're all sort of eateries and they're rather tame and bland. But before, they were full of working men drinking pints shouting at one another. Fantastic. What fun. It was just great. And a few fights would break out, but it's life. You know? It's okay. Nobody really came to any substantial harm.
And, that's been chewed up. And when you were talking about that guy that's a hundred and one saying that, you know, that was the nation that he knew, a more lively, vigorous nation with local communication being the preeminent sort of space that people would participate in. And we've got to we've got to and I think we can revive it. It's just going to require a few sort of beacons or examples of this because even the alternative press over here, we have a newspaper and all this kind of stuff, if you read it you'll want to slit your wrists. Really, seriously people just oh this is happening. The banks are going to collapse. That's going to happen. It's going to be war, right? It becomes an addictive cycle. Hardly any of these things happen.
They are one day of course they're all going to happen then someone's going to turn around and go see I told you so. I'm going yeah but that was forty five years ago and during that time I've had 18 children and built a life, right? So in the end you're always everybody's going to be right but what do we want to do sort of now? So I think this I think the local approach for us is the response because we actually can do things at a local level. We can block councils. We can make their life unbearably painful so they give up. Nobody wants to work for them. That's what happens. So when these orders come down from high, we go, we're not having that. Booger off. We're not doing that. Yep. And and we need to build build that up like, literally, peasants on the ground. It's the time for peasants revolt two point o over here. It really is. Paul, there's an old saying here. I I imagine it's over there too. It's really accurate. That's why it's an old saying.
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All politics is local. And that's what we preach around here. See? Yep. Yeah. We I can separate you from the feds, but aren't you interested in participating on the local level? Because you can do everything you just said. You can go in and harass the hell out of them and and bring up all kinds of nasty stuff and rub their noses in it there at those council meetings. And they gotta let you talk. Okay? Mhmm. So, yeah. No. I I totally, agree with that. A %.
[02:30:04] Unknown:
Murr, I'm sorry I stepped on you. Sorry. Oh, no. I just wanted to say another thing Armstrong and Socrates came out with is, that, the dollar will not crash. It will keep being used. No. It's not gonna crash.
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Trump's got this thing saved. I'll tell you who's gonna crash, though, is China, and they're already in the process of it evidently.
[02:30:25] Unknown:
Oh, I stayed up real late so I could watch the, you know, May 9 over there in Russia. And the premier guest was Xi Jinping, and he looks really worn. And, apparently, you know, with all what's going on over there. There there's a there's a noodle shortage. He's not eating well. There's a noodle shortage in China. That's what it is. Well, he just looked worn, you know, and I I think, it was so much pressure and stuff, but I think it's kinda cool that Russia and China are together and really making it well known. You know? But he was right with Putin, and they're doing all their, you know, with the red roses and the Yeah. And the Yeah. All the military marches. Trade. Was it Brezhnek
[02:31:04] Unknown:
who was it in the the the Brezinski in the world chessboard? You said the worst thing we could do is drive China and Russia together? And what's the what we've done? Driven China and Russia together. And I think Just like you were saying about the Europe situation and the hutzpah and the drive and the absolute blinders that these people have on.
[02:31:30] Unknown:
Well, what what's that phrase? When things go bad, the bankers start wars. That's it. Yeah. That's all it is. That's it. So I'm looking forward to receiving a book called The Tower of Basel, B A S E L, which is the home of, the Bank of International Settlements. It should be with me any moment any day now, and I'm desperate looking forward to reading it. Oh, man. My thrilling reading for well Yeah. Because that bank that bank is very, very important. And, apparently, there's a lot of information. It's from a Hungarian journalist. It's very new. It's about four or five years old. Right. And, I'm keen because it can't be prosecuted.
It's impervious to any law in the world. Right. You can't We need to make it to
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ground with a way out. Their own passports. You can't serve papers, all that. Have you and I'll tell you, if you really wanna dig into that, it's not new. It's old. And in that book, the 31 speeches of congressman Louis t McFadden, one of those speeches is all about the BIS as they were founding it from the viewpoint of a former banker who was the head of the House of Representatives Banking Committee for fifteen, twenty years.
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I have a copy of that. No. I'm look docs.exposed to matrix.com.
[02:32:49] Unknown:
Yeah. So should you wanna do Louie team McFadden book. Yes. Yeah. The that's a source of information. On that, Paul. Thank you for that. If you could send me a link maybe on Teams afterwards, that would be great. I mean, when you talk about knowing exactly what went on in this period of time, will you read that book right there? I read it. I was under a little bit of a disability because I was brand new. And a lot of it is banker technical stuff, and I just read through it and never have gone back and reread it. But you're much more schooled, Paul, and you'll be able to pick that up a lot better than I was. Boy, it's a hell of a book right there.
[02:33:26] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Yeah. Well, if yeah.
[02:33:30] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. English, have you read High Priests of Treason by, by Melvin Stamper?
[02:33:37] Unknown:
No. I haven't.
[02:33:39] Unknown:
It's a really good book. That's, that's fruits of a for Poisonous Tree Stamper, isn't it? Yep. Yes. Okay. Same guy. Okay.
[02:33:48] Unknown:
So, Paul, this is I've read so many books on banking. I'm I'm I'm so boring at parties. They go, what do you read? I go, have you read The Lost Science of Money by Stephen Zarlene. They go, no. I actually I met up with these people. They said, what books do you read? I'll I'll bring some out next week. I'll take these things. They're all about 1,500 pages, about four of them. They go, do you read this stuff? I'm going, yeah. And it's, I've just finished reading The Crisis of Civilization as Paul well knows by Hillel Belloc. It would be great to have a discussion with Brent about that because Bellock was a Catholic intellectual.
And, I thought Brent's points about that, let's call it that intellectualization that Catholicism has brought in, I completely agree with him on. And yet it's not possible for me to ignore this guy's stuff because it's so spot on with regards to certain things. And, of course, he's advocating for a return to the Catholic church. That's not something I could really countenance at all. But the points he makes from a historical perspective are fascinating, particularly when you take into account that Europe at one point was entirely Catholic prior to Henry the eighth, the whole of Europe, all of it. And so there was this one unified system, but he's very he's a very fair and good critic of the thing that he's championing as well. And one of the points he makes is that he said that although the reformation over here, was the explosive event that that in public brought it all into being, the fault lines had developed in the late thirteen hundreds. It took about a hundred and thirty years for them all to come through.
And some of the fault lines were indulgences, which people will be aware of where you paid money. Yeah. You paid my that was one area. It was all getting out of hand. Another one was mortuaries where you couldn't. These were fees that you paid when you died. And these fees started to build up. So you had to pay, obviously, someone to dig the hole and then build the coffin and then do the flowers and then say a prayer and then bring a it just went on and on. It just got out of hand. People couldn't afford to die. It was that expensive. They couldn't afford it. And, so it became like a business.
And that, you know, this is this is true. What I'm trying to do with Catholicism is try and view it in as even a handed away as I can. It's difficult. Broadly speaking, I I I think potpourri is a nonsense, and I think the points that Brent were making are pretty accurate. I wouldn't disagree with any of them. The, you know, they've the whole idea that this blog gets up and says, I am the vicar of Christ. I've read scriptures because, well, there's no what are you talking about? There's no there's not even a job advert for that. You've just created that for yourself. There's no advert for that at all. Sorry. That's nonsense. And that's where you know, that's where I leave it almost immediately. It's just daft.
[02:36:32] Unknown:
This creep that's been in there from Argentina just died. I don't want anything to do with him, and he ain't got nothing to do with my savior. And ain't in place of or anything else. That guy was totally evil as as a lot of those hierarchies over there. Are you you see it in their eyes. Mhmm. This new guy It just goes that way. Yeah. He you can't see it in him yet, but he'll probably develop into it as we go forward.
[02:36:59] Unknown:
Well, I think I agree. Possibly supposed to escape it? How Roger, how do you think they could escape it when they're in that nest? No one could. If you go into that, at some point, your number's up. I don't I have no idea how you do it. I mean, you know, like the fiction that if if we could get a few good men into politics, we could change the nation. We can't. It's impossible. It's never ever happened because they'll get killed. The only people that can turn it over are the peasants. The peasants have got to be come so uncompliant with anything. We consent to nothing that you do. Nothing. Okay. We'll see. Then they go, we've got no power over them. Then then we can get Well, see, that's what makes what we do here so damned important because we can accomplish that
[02:37:40] Unknown:
and have. And all we gotta do is spread it and get numbers. They're scared of us without the information we've got here. They're scared of us just as a bunch of dumb come country bumpkins. Why hell? What about if y'all get educated and then they have no power over you? Then they're real scared. So Mhmm. Anyway, by far we do right here, you know. I know. I know you do. It's great. It's wonderful. You hear these wonderful, bright, freedom loving people that we've, attracted here. And, I'm I'm just really pleased. And a lot of it's because of you, because you called me that day after, whoever whichever ex wife I was at.
[02:38:23] Unknown:
I've lost track, Paul. It's a good job you didn't have a webcam then.
[02:38:27] Unknown:
Yeah. And but this guy, Paul English, calls me. He goes, well, what what we gonna do? I said, well, I was gonna go over there to Spree Creek. Well, that's owned by the tribe, don't you know? And here we are all these years later. It's fantastic. I love the relationship. Finally, I found a a marriage that works, Paul.
[02:38:47] Unknown:
I'm worried. I'm worried, bro. Excuse me, Paul? I'm worried. You're you're gonna end the show on a rather sour note here. Yes, Paul. Paul.
[02:38:55] Unknown:
No. No. Actually, we're we're in the after show right now. I'm still streaming, but we're in the after show. Signal, Alright. Not signal. Teams locked up on me, so I wasn't able to send you the link. However, I did drop it in the chat in Zoom,
[02:39:12] Unknown:
the link for that to book. Thank you very much. Good to book.
[02:39:16] Unknown:
Speaking of books, I just got one today. John Wilkins, the secret history of the yeah. The secret history of the American empire, the truth about economic hitman, Jekylls, and how to change the world. Now is this a notebook he's got out, or is this the only No. It's just a just another one that he has, and if you don't buy it right, it it'll cost you a couple hundred bucks. But, I've I've found a copy I could afford. So Okay. All good. Cool beans. Interesting that Perkins was never, hunted down, wasn't it? And he walks free. Anyway Very interesting. What I wanted to say here is I found a YouTube audio book
[02:39:56] Unknown:
of the Tower Of Basil, the shadowy history of the secret bank that runs the world, and it's, ten and a half hours. Really? So it's inborn. I'll Yeah.
[02:40:08] Unknown:
Well, if it's if it's one of those robot voices, it will be all mind you, the modern ones are amazing.
[02:40:14] Unknown:
The new voices Yeah. Are absolutely stunning. But like you say and they read everything. They read the punctuation and everything, and it gets a little I know.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
I know. And I think reading is actually really good, particularly with long format things. It's a different experience than reading, you know, the Blizzard of Fear Porn and all the news updates because you have to sit down. Usually, for me well, absolutely, I must have tea with it. And I get time to stop every fifteen minutes and kinda really fully digest what I've just read through, and then we go on to the next chunk. And I it's a very good way to sort of acquire things and distill it. It's done in a Yeah. It's done in an English accent, you might like. Oh, dear. Those them that lot. Yes. Okay. Okay. Well, I might do. Yeah.
We're gonna have a a I think I'll do an audio book of all of, Spurgeon's, sermons. Only three and a half thousand. Average length, 10 pages. So it's 35,000 pages. I mean, how hard would that be to do? It only took me about twenty years to do it. He must have been a hell of a guy, that Spurgeon guy.
[02:41:15] Unknown:
I've got a lunch appointment here in about twenty minutes. And so as I'm going to go to grudgingly as I hate to leave, I'm gonna have to to meet other obligations. As they say, Paul, just always a pleasure to have you come over and visit with us, and you need to Nice to be here. A total open Yeah. Loved it. Open invitation. And, you haven't had any communication with John Smith, have you?
[02:41:41] Unknown:
No. I haven't. I've got all sorts of other people buzzing around me. I'm talking to people about, trusts over here who have got some extremely sharp ideas, ex solicitors and the like, who are looking at trust because, I've got we have this situation where farmers are being hammered Okay. Over a thing called inheritance tax. Oh, yeah. A topic that Belloc talks about great. He said if if they do away with inheritance, in other words, if you can't have it, he said you're finished. Yeah. And, of course, they're nibbling away at it all the time. You're literally Oh. You know, I I finally understood what a that we are proletariats. Proletariats are people that don't own much, if anything, and are dependent upon a wage. And he talks about the fact that the rise of the proletariat, I. E. Numerically, is very dangerous for any civilization.
Very. And it's because it's easily taken advantage of, and it creates all sorts as we know. So Branch revolution. Maybe prole to another, Roger, unless you're a multimillionaire. It's probably time for me to say goodbye. But, yeah, the the farmers need trusts. They can defend themselves. But yet again, it's lack of knowledge and education and opportunity, I think. So If Trump keeps pushing, we get that spot price of gold up to $40.50 grand.
[02:42:52] Unknown:
I may reside in that area. Whilst look. My last comment whilst we're on gold, I had this on the flip. Yeah. Let me finish that. If that happens, it ain't gonna be fun because the rest of the world's gonna be real screwed up. Go ahead.
[02:43:08] Unknown:
There's an interview I can't remember his name now. It was oh, what's her name? She does a lot of interviews. I'm not necessarily a fan, but I just saw this clip about Gold. It's from a few weeks ago. Mhmm. Here, he's a guy that's very high up in central banking, but is communicating as if he's batting for the common man. So we'll let him. Is it Richard? No. No. He's a a Belgian extraction or something. Great English and everything. Very bright guy. Built sort of restructured economies for all sorts of countries and things like this. He knows what he's talking about. He's talking about The Philippines and gold. Now, we're probably aware of The Philippines and the gold at the end of World War two where there's bucket loads of it. I've heard a lot of stories.
[02:43:51] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:43:52] Unknown:
Tons of it. That's why Marcos came to prominence in the seventies and, his wife and all her shoes. That's the bit I remember as a teenager. Imelda's shoes. Oh, what's a lot of shoes she'd got? This was all they talked about. It's very important to talk about the shoes. Yeah. It was to do that that part of it is to do with the fact that Japan seeking to win the peace afterwards couldn't get back to Japan with all this gold that it got from China and elsewhere, a lot of it, because, a lot of American submarines were floating around there in the water, and they thought we're never gonna get back. So they stopped off at The Philippines and unloaded a lot of this gold in about a 10 mines.
And this activity was observed by the OSS, you know, the forerunner of the CIA, who did not report this back to government headquarters because they then made use of that gold to fund their, let's call it black ops, I suppose, for a long time. Explo exploits. That's right. So that's a lot of gold. But this guy's talking about something in addition to that. There are something like 7,000 Philippine islands or four to 7,000. It's thousands of them, anyway. There's a lot of islands. And they all got their own sort of tribal little systems, and they're all unified in some way. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about The Philippines. You know they have satellites that can effectively scan what's in the ground and detect metal and all this kind of stuff. Correct. Okay.
So he's talking to her, and the name might jump into my head at some point. You'll you'll recognize the name if I can think of it, and I can't right now. And, he's he says to her, do you know how much gold they've found in The Philippines? She said, no. She said, you've not and he he quotes from a letter he'd written to a central banker with a number on it. He said, it's not tens of thousands of tons, it's billions of tons of gold in The Philippines. Billions. Mhmm. And so they then have this excuse that, well, they could refloat the whole economy. And I'm going, no, they couldn't. It's got nothing to do. They couldn't. They forget about the men with guns.
They forget about the men with guns. You know, it's a bit like sorry.
[02:45:59] Unknown:
I I just don't think there's that much gold in the world.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
No. That's what you've been led to believe. I I probably do, actually. I think I do believe that. I know that you remember you remember Kurt Adenauer, the head of he was the prime minister of Austria. Right. Well, after World War two, he was involved in gold big time because he was high up, and I remember seeing records then. You're told there's about a 20,000 tons in the world. This is nonsense. It's just a controlled market like diamonds. Yeah. There's tons of it. There's absolutely tons of it. People have been mining it, and it doesn't disappear for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years. Really? You know, people have been very keen on this stuff. May I? They've been very keen on this stuff. You can make diamonds out of people, and they do. Go ahead. Paul? Paul? Yeah.
[02:46:46] Unknown:
I'm so excited you mentioned that because I talked to princess Elizabeth Rodriguez Ruiz Marcos. She is, that is her father, Ferdinand, and she has confirmed with me that Doctor. Jose Rizal, he used to stay at the Vatican, and due to corruption he went back to The Philippines. His father was Prince Tabano, who was a twin of Queen Victoria. He set up a trust fund called the Global Debt Facility Trust Account. It has 750,000 tons of gold in it, and it was set aside. And it is available all the gold of humanity has been placed into that trust fund, and it's available to all countries in this world. It's part of the global currency reset is my understanding.
[02:47:39] Unknown:
Something's brewing, isn't it? Something's brewing. I I get my cynicism about these things is nothing to do with the amount of gold or anything like that. It's to do with those agencies that say, well, we'll regulate the market for you. We'll do you all a favor. We'll protect you. No. No. And they are obviously the great robbers. It's a great just like government. It's just a protection racket. And violence and force and threats and intimidation are always part of the deal. So it's whether you can find a group of men irrespective of how much gold they've got that can be defended for long enough to identify this criminal setup, which is extensive. But the thing is it's always recruiting because there's always new people coming onto the scene in their early twenties who are completely bent as a 9 bob note, and we'll go for it. So it's nothing new there. But, it is God's money, gold. It is. So I suspect there will be sufficient enough of it around, you know. So it's just whether we can come up with a system where we can behave well enough with one another to use it. That's the big challenge. There you go. That's treasure in heaven. Don't need to worry about it here, really. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. It's not about down here.
[02:48:44] Unknown:
But it's just energy. It's energy. You can be used to it for good purposes or bad purposes. We use it for good. Hey, Paul?
[02:48:52] Unknown:
I think as long as the Bank of International Settlements is alive and around with total immunity, you know, they stole all of the Nazi gold and all that stuff. I think as long as they exist, they need to go. That is just such an evil organization. They're just you can't like you said, you can't touch them. Have you They can do whatever they want. It's lawlessness there. And until they're gone, we've got our, we got our work ahead of us. We gotta up road up no battle is my opinion.
[02:49:19] Unknown:
I agree. Time
[02:49:21] Unknown:
to go into Basel Three and what this part is definitely We'll do that next time. Roger, I'll come back in a couple of weeks. But I'll come back after I've read that book. So as soon as it's arrived, I'll be through it in a few days, and we can do that. But I've gotta go too. So I've gotta go. I've got some vitamin B and B and B and B and B.
[02:49:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Check check out Catherine Austin. Fitz with the copper copper Carlson.
[02:49:42] Unknown:
Yeah. He's
[02:49:43] Unknown:
excellent. It's very good. Yeah. He sent it to me. Yeah. But what she what she says is basil is sovereign has sovereign immunity. Everything that is being told us now is lies. Just pure lies about the money, about everything. So we got that.
[02:49:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Have you seen that picture of that guy that runs BIS? Jabba the Hutt is what I call him. Have you seen that place? He's he's he's he's He likes pies. He must he must weigh four hundred plus pounds. I'm not So he he's part of the answers to the eternal question, who ate all the pies? Yeah. Well, he could be. He's a suspect. It's him. I promise you. It's him. Okay. I'll see you in a couple of weeks, Paul. Kids, I'll see you tomorrow. Yes, Samuel?
[02:50:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna throw something positive in before y'all leave. And I mentioned it probably two years ago, but, I I needed a little uplift yesterday. And I I watched, the, story of Arthur blessed and, the cross, it's called. And this is a guy live in all of the world. Two and a half. Yeah. He's got a lot of miles. But his story is such an uplifting story and a beautiful story. It is. Regardless Yeah. Regardless, you know, of any everything else, we still got that going for us. So Yeah. Very cool. Thank you, Samuel.
[02:51:04] Unknown:
I'll, see y'all tomorrow, Paul. Love you. Thanks for dropping by, and we will look forward to our next visit from Abduak and the night visitors of the East.
[02:51:15] Unknown:
Yep. Cool. You, buddy. Take care. Catch you all later. Yep. Bye for now. Bye bye.
[02:51:22] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. It's Bruce.
[02:51:27] Unknown:
Paul.
[02:51:29] Unknown:
It's Bruce.
[02:51:34] Unknown:
He ran while the getting's good.
[02:51:48] Unknown:
Isn't it all blood money anyway? All that, it's dug out of the ground by slaves or stolen by the DeSotos and
[02:51:57] Unknown:
the Well, this is this is just, yeah, this is just more proof that labor is the only value. People talk about gems and precious metals and but they have to be mined and refined, don't they?
[02:52:14] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:52:56] Unknown:
Alright. Well, sounds like, the air has pretty much been let, out of the conversation, so I am going to seize the opportunity. Yes, Bruce?
[02:53:10] Unknown:
I'm gonna ask you a question. Can you give, can you say my, phone number?
[02:53:23] Unknown:
No.
[02:53:24] Unknown:
No. I cannot see your give it to you? I cannot see your phone number. All I can see is your email address. Is that legit?
[02:53:36] Unknown:
Dear. Right. I can give you my number too.
[02:53:40] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:53:41] Unknown:
Wish I won't. 803
[02:53:44] Unknown:
Well, I'm 514 I'm gonna take, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the stream down before you give your phone number over the air, which is what I was trying to do before you, spoke up. So give me just a second. Alright? Yeah. Go ahead. That's it for the Radio Ranch with Rogers sales, the Friday edition with Brent Allen Winters and Paul English joined us from across the pond. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on eurofolkradio.com, radio soap parks Com, Global Voice Radio Network, 1 0 6 point 9 WBOU FM in Chicago, Home Network Dot Tv, Freedom Nation Dot Tv, go live tv, and streamlife.tube.
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Introduction and Host Greetings
Hockey Game Discussion
Elon Musk and AI in Governance
UCC and Debt Payment Strategies
Discussion on the Papacy and Antichrist
Brent Winters' Historical Insights
Reformed Theology and Calvinism
World War II and Historical Perspectives
Localism as a Response to Globalism
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
