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In today’s freewheeling Monday edition of the Radio Ranch, I reflect on a turbulent news cycle and our mission: helping newcomers disentangle from federal entanglements and reclaim personal sovereignty. We field listener calls on practical status strategies, from affidavits and local notice to trusts, land patents, and vehicle title remedies. A lively roundtable dives into geopolitics (Venezuela, Monroe Doctrine, cartels, and great‑power maneuvering), the debt trap and reserve currency shifts, precious metals, stablecoins, and how to prepare for financial volatility. We also get hands-on: using coupons with collectors, hospital billing tactics, vehicle MSOs and merging legal/equitable title, DOT/plates nuances, property tax exemptions via state constitutions, and why clear, public notice can keep officials at bay. Along the way: historical detours (Huey Long, opium wars), tech talk (battery chemistry), and caller Q&A on passports, salvaging titles, and standing your ground with paperwork and process—all focused on practical freedom, not theory.

Resources mentioned by callers include interviews with Andy Schectman and Mike Adams, discussions of “The Great Taking,” and research trails on CUSIPs, asset-backed securities, and state constitutional exemptions; listeners are encouraged to study primary sources, read statutes, and document everything via affidavit and public notice.

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Sorry, folks.   Yep.   Well, world's a tough place. World's a tough place these days. It is changing. I don't know how much we're helping, but we surely want to. And we sure do attempt to, so we'll continue to   attack that point. So here we go on the Monday.   Yo.   Monday edition, Paul.   And you remember, I'm sure, what mom and Cass   said about that day. Roger Sales, your host at the Radio Ranch. It is,   the twenty seventh   as we enter the week of the of the evil devil's month, Paul. We're there.   There's so much stuff building,   and it's gonna all revolve around that in subsequent days.  

Nobody knows what the hell is gonna happen, but it probably   is not gonna be too good.   We'll see. Maybe. I may be totally wrong.   Trump may ride to the rescue and have his donors   pull in and and and and contribute and pay everybody SNAP benefits for a month so they can have Thanksgiving dinner. Don't know   if that's the case, but it may be. I mean,   stranger things have happened, Paul. So good morning. Happy new week. I forgot all about November being Thanksgiving  

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month. Oh, man.  

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Oh, yeah. I forgot all about that. Right around the corner. How do I keep you better at it in the equation?  

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Well, I'm I'm really not awake yet.   I know. I got I got woken up between three three and 04:00 in the morning by my,   drunk   ass neighbor outside in the yard screaming at the top of his freaking lungs about god only knows what. He's out there for, like, a half hour.   So We really I, we really need to get you to Georgia there, Paul. I rolled over and went back to bed. I didn't wake up until, like, twenty to ten.  

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Is that right? Yikes. So this so this morning this  

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morning. Dragging, baby. Been hiccups.  

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So Well,   I maybe foreshadowing   it. Maybe foreshadowing   as to the week that we're going to enter into right now.   So I don't know. Sometimes, occasionally, back in the old days, we used to have John Casirub come by. I don't know. He is still alive.   I have spoken with him,   but we haven't seen him around on a Monday in well, since the summer, I think, when he went off on his   class reunion thing.   So, anyway, we'll find out from John eventually. He'll be back. And, otherwise   but I know Alan's back. I heard his voice. Spoke with him here a few minutes ago. Yeah. He is. We were intercoursing.   And, so   I guess we need I think today's a very light day on our accomplices. Right? No. It's not a very light day. We're only missing one  

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platform.   We're   only missing we're only missing one platform formed from a full boat.   Right? Radiosoapbox.com   is only with us from Tuesday through Friday.   However,   we are on eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James.   We're on Global Voice Radio Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   We're on free conference call.   That is how people join us on the show, and the links to Global Voice, Eurofoc, and FCC   are on our website, thematrixdocs.com,   thematrixd0cs.com,   among other things. And we're also joined by WDRN   productions and the net family of broadcast services who brings us the five platforms,   one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago, homenetwork.tv,   freedomnation.tv,   go live TV, and streamlife.tube.  

So those are all of the platforms that you see. We're only missing one, radio soapbox.   So   k. And that's that's it.   But, getting back to what I was saying before, I do believe that I have an answer for,   for my neighbor issues because this happens more often than not.   I have the benefit of,   massive amounts of amplification.   I have, all totaled,   over 5,000 watts of audio power in my house, in my apartment,   and I have eight stage speakers   that can very easily be pointed at his   bedroom wall.   And 08:00 tomorrow morning, I'm gonna be playing the Macarena on repeat.  

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No. No. No. No. Don't do Macarena.   Nancy Sinatra.  

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Oh,   maybe.   Well, I could do made or walking.   I could do AWOL Nation sail. You familiar with that one? No. That one will fall to wall.   Okay.  

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Well, Paul, you'll have some decisions to make on what to play to irritate him in the morning.   I I was I thought you were gonna say you're gonna blast it there in the middle of the night, but that would just piss off the neighbors even more. So  

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No. 08:00 in the morning. It's Okay. It's not my responsibility   if he stays up all night drinking and sleeps half the day. That's not my problem.  

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True. And and 07:59   might be an ordinance violation, but 08:01   That's right.  

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Here you go. Okay, Paul. Well, good to have you. Handled.  

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I wish I could do that, with the Tuesday lunch group over there and   and and and have been a few songs of that. There yesterday is good about everybody's talking about the Jews. I'd like to put that in over there on them. But, anyway, we better stop all this foolishness and get started started. They're yesterday's forget them.  

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Okay.  

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The,   I guess the biggest thing is, are are we gonna invade Venezuela? We can talk about that, all the pros and cons. There's both.   What else is going on over the weekend? Well, I was totally immersed   in football, and then yesterday, our Internet went out for, like, six hours during the afternoon.   So, I was a little bit detached from the world for a while   and, trying to catch up, and I'm a little behind in my work. I'm like that famous butcher, Paul, who's a little behind   in his work. A   little bit. Yeah. A little bit. And, so, anyway, of course, the show, the Radio Ranchers for new people mainly   that have questions about removing themselves from, federal   authoritarianism.  

That's a good way to put it. Federal slavery. There's another one.   Anyway, you've been enslaved your whole life. You didn't know it. You agreed to it inherently.   And,   anyway, here we are to help get straightened out should you choose. And you wanna go on about your life and not be a slave and   go to your you know, some of my people when they when they pass, you know, you can say, well, at least they   they weren't slave when they passed. I guess there's some good,   good good good feedback on that.   So, anyway, that's where we are today as we get started this Monday. Are there any new people, that   I'll ask you now? I know if you're probably new, you're not gonna be ready to jump in the deep end of the pool, but we would invite you to as we go along and you get more comfortable,   and you hear some of these wonderful people talk about different things,   that you would might want to jump in and ask your question because freedom's important to you,   and, we'd like to help you achieve it. Don't it doesn't cost you anything, by the way. It was gonna cost you some study.  

You're gonna have to start thinking again a little bit.   Those are the only requirements.   And I use requirements as a word. I used   but you see, the the thing is now that if you make that decision, the burden falls on you   because it really depends on how free how free do you wanna be. Do you really wanna be free?   Do you really wanna be   super free and freedom free and   all that stuff? Well, then you gotta learn the information   Because the only way you're gonna be able to be free is to defend your position. And should you not be able to do that,   well, you kinda   you're an eight and up a rope.  

So, anyway, that's where we are. Love to have you. If you're new, ask questions. That's what we're here for. Got out of bed this morning to do this. You heard Paul almost slept late,   actually, this morning. And,   we love the camaraderie of, people that have been through this and had their eyes,   pulled wide open and,   makes you a new person kinda.   Sure does.   And eventually, should you continue and, pursue it, it will make you a self empowered person   because I truly believe that you get back the powers God was meant for you to have at birth that were stolen from you with this   Esau, Edom,   trick them program,   which is what we're dealing with. So good morning, everybody.  

So, Paul, have you heard about the blowing chips up and all that stuff? Well, it's getting to be a lot of,   calamity about that.   So, we're evidently gotta destroy it. I don't know what all these,   what they call them? What do they call them?   All those little fast boats. These banana boats or something. What that wasn't it? There's a name. Like the beach Cigar. Things? Cigar boats.   That's what they're called.   And, yeah, they're powered up to the hill, and they take that run across the gulf or across the street.   Boats.  



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Cigarettes.  

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Yeah. Cigarettes, cigar, both, I think. Cigarettes. And, thank you, Joe.   And,   so, we're yes. Just saying we're blowing a few of them up. They've got,   people training on all kinds of different   battalions in the service. And,   we've got destroyer down there in The Caribbean or in the, in the Gulf Of America now.   So, yes, there's a couple people trying to say something. Who was that? Who was that?  

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I saw a YouTube clip that,   the cartels   make a huge amount of money. Right? There's a they're buying these 2 or $3,000,000   submarines,   mini submarines that are built in China,   and they're trying to run drugs that way.  

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Those,   I'm told,   are mainly out of Ecuador.   That all the the real heavy sea traffic is out of Ecuador and Colombia.   And Trump's after the president of Colombia too, evidently.   And he he is a revolutionary guy, started   a revolutionary movement when he was young.   But I heard, Rick, the other day   that they blew up a boat and two people lived.   I all I heard was just a comment about it. I've never heard any other follow-up or details,   but that they weren't hauling drugs. So it may be that they make some mistakes on these things. I'm sorry. They're forcing the issue   by continuing to send them.  

So, hopefully, we'll see. Now they're they are in bed with Ecuador.   I mean, The US.   Nablo,   our president Banana Boy, they call him because he's the son of the Banana Empire.   He is,   an American.   His father had him his his mom, go to Miami, and he was born in Miami. So   in these days, in the way they're applying birthright citizenship, he would qualify for that.   So I don't know, but he's also evidently from some of the undercover investigation I've seen. Ricky's also a cocaine smuggler.   He he he went out and had his, this investigative   reporter,   I think this is in the last election,   went out to one of the yards where and they saw all these workers coming in to the, shipyard.  

And, evidently, they were there to build a false front on, one of the walls or something inside the, ship.   And, that he packs those things with key kilos of cocaine and, stories about   high end celebration   dinners in Spain and Portugal and stuff.   People throwing money around, etcetera, etcetera. That's what I've heard from an investigative reporter   documented most of it.   So he may be right in the thick of them, probably neck to neck with the, CIA, Rick. So I don't know. All that stuff here, for the most part, is down on the coast   as they're fighting for territory as to the export locations.  

So I don't know. But, yeah, I hear they've got those little mini submarines too.   And,   evidently, Trump has pretty well blocked the sea traffic on the Pacific side.   Don't I've all these all I get is snips. I don't get any kind of other information. Y'all probably get more information on it than I do. But it's becoming a very topical   topic, a hot topic.   And, for instance, Jones,   who would get on there and say, well, I've I've been against every war that they've   conjured up since I was on the air here, which pretty much same thing with me,   except for this one. And I kinda feel the same way as Jones.  

I know there's gray shades of gray   and stuff, but they're exercising the Monroe doctrine,   which is goes back to Madison.   Walk softly and carry a big stick, I think, was the,   saying of the Monroe doctrine. You can't have anything going on in this hemisphere   where you're messing with us. They're reinvoking that on especially on these terrible drugs.   They'd love to on the other side of the coin.   They'd love to get their hands on Venezuela.   Get this little leader. Remember Paul here when the Nobel Peace Prize came out a couple of weeks ago was awarded to a woman down there?   Yeah. And she wanted to reaward it. Well, she wanted to represent it and give it to Trump.  

That's the woman they're talking about being put in as president. And,   so we'll see. Evidently, Hamas and Hezbollah have joined up with them. They've got training facilities over there. Venezuela's got, albeit very, very heavy and dirty crude   or, more oil underneath it than Saudi Arabia. It requires more refining to get the sulfur out.   They've got one of the biggest supplies of gold in the world.   They've got emeralds, you know, like the,   like the Incas,   like they found on the Atochi,   all those huge emeralds.   They've got that. They've got all kind of wealth and, you know, all kind of natural resources on top of those.  

So they're, you know, kinda saying, well, you guys keep it up. We'll just come in there and get   you replaced Maduro   with somebody that's a little more favorable to us, and we'll take advantage of those resources. That's what it looks like is going on. I don't   I don't like stealing country's resources, but they don't get a good leader in there who can develop those things and develop a market inside their own country that will aid their own people   instead of being a commie terrorist. Well, I think that's a better way.   So we'll see as that develops. It's just another element out there in the myriad of things that are happening right now.  

I have not heard whether they're going say, get upset or unsaid, or we're gonna reset the   meeting with Russia and   potentially Ukraine over there in,   Budapest.   Budapest.   That's a interesting place. I would love to go and spend some time in Europe. We would love two years ago ago, and it was more Europe.   But, evidently, Budapest in Hungary was,   one side of the river, there's a town named Buda, and on the other side of the river, the big river, maybe the Danube that goes through there. The other side is called Pest.   So this Budapest is one on one side of the river, one on the other.  

Hungary, one of the only countries in Europe with any sense, Viktor Orban, a real level headed leader.   So, boy, we're sure in interesting times, Paul.   Gonna be see we'll see what comes out this week, whether we got more,   coming out from Tulsa Gabbard or, who's turning out to be just a real hero,   or RFK   or some of the other leaders up there. They got their hands full. I can tell you that.   So, Paul, you you, got anything to bring forward here? Anybody else? You y'all want me to just ramble on here for a while?  

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Yeah. What's this? Joe? Is that Joe? Somebody.  

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Or is that Joe?   Hey. Who who is that, please? You got a terrible phone connection.  

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Yeah. It's awful.   Lose the Bluetooth.   Sounds like, Rick and Huntsville.  

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Whoever's trying to say something when you try and say something, if you're on a Bluetooth,   remove that before you try and say something. They're always screwed up. Go ahead, Rick. Have you got it removed yet? Not me. Sound terrible. Not me. No. Not you. Rick in Huntsville. That's rich. Rich.   Rich in Huntsville.   Can you lose the Bluetooth, please?   There. I'll call back. There. Here. I'll call it took.  

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No. It's no. It's it's whenever you say something, you echo back through his phone. So, Roger, if you're quiet, he can talk.  

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I was just gonna say that,   I went to Budapest   in, '92.   And,   you can still see the bullet holes   in the buildings.   Beautiful architecture there.  

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I mean  

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Yep. Stunning. Gotta be stunning. I'd love to go there. I'd love to go to Czech Republic too.   Probably will never get back over there, it seems.   Yeah. Well, that ain't nothing new. They got the bullet holes in the capital in Louisiana   where they shot Huey P Long.   And one administration,   Paul, will come in, and if they're anti long, they'll cover them up. And the next administration   will be prolonged, and they go dig that out so people can actually go put their fingers in the bullet holes   where they missed,   missed the kingfish.  

World would have been a different place.   Kingfish was very powerful.   They fear   excuse me.   Something went wrong down down wrong.   They feared the kingfish.   He had a huge audience. I mentioned the other day, every man's a king on no king's day. It was the opposite of whoopee long day. Every man's a king and a chicken in every pot.   Paul, there was a story up there about him on DC that he had a constituent in his office. He he after he was governor, he ran for senator, and he was a senator up there.   Buddy Rockefeller and them scared to death of him.   He had a huge, huge following. A lot of people liked his message.  

He was charismatic   charismatic speech or speaker.   Kinda like up to the degree of Hitler, really.   Just not to that many people. If they'd ever given him a chance, he probably could have that many people. Regardless,   Huey Pilong, the kingfish,   he was in his office one day with a constituent.   I don't know what office building the senators,   have their offices in back then, but it was one of them, Paul.   And they called him, and they said, we need you in the senate for a vote.   And so   the guy that was   he he he had him as an audience,   the constituent.  

Well, when he got up to go to the senate, well, the guy got up and just walked with him, continuing to tell him   what he was trying to tell him in his office.   And by the time they hit the Senate Building,   he was up on the steps talking to 3,000   people or more.   Between his office and the Capitol, he had gathered a crowd of over 3,000 people just walking across the grounds.   And, boy, they feared him. If you don't think so, then you're wrong. A Jewish doctor from, Shreveport named Weis killed him.   But, anyway, been interesting if if the kingfish would've lived, he controlled   the he had a lot of power at his fingertips, and he was a real, real genuine populist.  

So,   anyway,   there's other buildings with bullet holes in them right in our country, Rich. You can see. So who else got something this morning?  

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Comet.  

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There's a Comet. Is that mister Tom that tried there?   No. This is Carl and you How are you? Oh, you kinda sound like Tom. I'm pretty good this morning, Carl. How are you?  

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Well, if I had the knowledge of Tom, I'd be doing pretty well. So  

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but we only got Well, you keep trying.   You keep doing it, and and you'll get there. Okay? But you gotta continue doing whatever you   okay. I know.   So what you got is a question, Carl.  

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This is probably more of probably a rhetorical question, but   if the government is shut down,   couldn't we just put new government in its place?  

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Well, I'm not sure that you can replace   existing government, but you can take government that was there   and get rid of it with no questions asked like the bureaucracy.   And that's one of the things Trump is relishing because all those   judges gonna fight him for firing people and everything,   During a shutdown, you can do anything you want and get rid of as much as you want. And they've been evidently very diligently doing that for the last couple of weeks, not announcing it, but doing it.  

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K. I was just I was just thinking about that last night.   And as you know, the government's   shut down, the people have left the building just like leaving court,   and they've left the the building   and their stations that they've been delegated to,   that's the same as   leaving the courtroom, I would think.  

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Well, let's take the opposite example. What about the ICE guys?   They're not getting paid. They're still going out there and chasing all these thugs, getting shot at, getting tried to be run over with cars and everything else. A lot of those guys are just doing it out of a sense of duty to their country.  

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Well, they're different than an elected   official here. Elected officials Well, okay. Ones that have abandoned   ship.  

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Well, not not not not all of them. Not all of them. The ones that have abandoned ship here are the Democrats.   K.   You know, you understand what's going on on the big play here?  

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Well, I I I don't really listen to a lot of news. I hear more news out of you than  

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I listen to. But The news alright. Well, here, let's just give give you a little background. Remember Obamacare?  

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Yes.  

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Did he pass when he was in there, and they had died all what that was was set up for COVID   because it allowed all those people to own the hospitals and control the doctors and stuff like that. We heard all the horror stories   coming out of that. Well, it gives us wide range   of things like giving these migrants   all these benefits.   And so the Republicans are trying to get rid of the migrants and cut that stuff off. So Trump,   has allowed them. They saw this coming, and they're the ones that shut down the government. They're the ones that refuse to negotiate.   All the Republicans are trying to do is get that group of aliens,   migrants, where they're not getting medical care to the bill turn the billions of dollars. Okay?  

So that's their position. It's the Democrats, and we've had it. One of the Democratic chicks I saw on a clip over the weekend   who she said, well, this is our only leverage.   So they're coming out on interviews and saying this is our only leverage against the Republicans left, that the people won't get paid their SNAP benefits, that all these other things are happening, the government shut down. This all Democrats, Carl. It's not Republicans.   They wanna get things shuttered back. K?  

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I I don't know if that's  

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hopefully true. I mean, maybe it is, but it just Well, to you is this Carl again? Carl, am I talking to you again? Please talk into your microphone.  

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Sorry. I moved into a different room. I Yeah. I wonder   if it is the same   because or or different even though it's the term Democrat Republican. I mean, if the Republicans   knew the what was going on, which, you know, they know the frauds,   they're just partaking in it also. They're just a different   they're wearing a different mask. No. No. No. Just equally crooked.  

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Well, I don't think anybody's gonna disagree with you   to the most part. For the most part, there's people   that are a little more honest and con on the Republican side to me, Mary,   Marjorie Taylor Greene, the guy from Kentucky,   etcetera, etcetera. There there are a few good ones up there.   Yeah. I won't I won't go get But this is brought on by the Democrats.   This is brought on by the Democrats. It's the only thing they got left.   You see what Trump has done? Well, drug smugglers. He's forced he's forced them to do things like defend these migrant murderers,   to defend drug smugglers, to defend rapists.  

Because   they're having to stand up and defend those kind of people and those kind of actions.   Yeah. But no, they don't there's no way to change the political party   of somebody that's in office already.   It's been quote unquote.  

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It just seemed like they abandoned ship.  

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So I just Well, the Republicans haven't. The Republicans are asking them every day to come talk, and they won't talk. K?   So,   your,   your conclusions are just a little bit off because you don't watch what's going on, but that's what's happening from what I see.   K?  

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Thank you, sir.  

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Yes, sir, Carl.   So, who else is on there with some comment or something? Tom, are you with us today? Tom d?   Well, it's Joe. I sent him that, Sheckman interview the other day, and I'll go back and talk about it. We talked about it on Saturday.   Might have been some of these folks who weren't here.   There's quite a good, Andy Sheckman, who's the guy with Miles Franklin.   Real straight up guy. A good interview with him with Mike Adams over on Brition.   And Adams is pretty much up on AI and Cybercoins   and all the   and the conclusions that came out of everything that's going on, including   the genius act and some of the things we've talked about around here.  

Are they're trying to set up a new monetary system at   at what it appeared to me from listening to that.   Joe, did you listen to that Shekman article,   over there with Mike Adams? I know you're the one that sent it to me. Did you listen to the whole thing? It was kinda long. Yes. I listened to allheart.   And what was your conclusions of that?  

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Well,   my conclusion is  

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that Joke?  

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Can you speak right in the phone? Can we get your audio any better at all?  

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Yeah. Gotta move away from scratch.   My conclusion is   is   the   dollar   is doomed.   And   if you don't make the right decisions   on this, and I'm not gonna say what the right decision is,   but you're gonna end up   penniless.  

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Well,   one thing y'all do is if you've got any shekels laying around, I'd get them into something solid. I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but gold, silver, Bitcoin land,   some of those things that are real.  

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If you don't think you can afford gold or silver, then you need tangible assets that you don't have to put out in the front yard.  

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Yeah.   So, and and even JD Vance, did you hear that statement? I think it was brought up in that interview. JD Vance came out and said, we need to the the dollar needs to not be the world reserve currency.   So they're looking at whatever they're planning on   as discussed in-depth in this interview.   They're, they're looking at getting rid of the, reserve currency because they can't get out of the debt trap without that happening evidently.   It's very complex,   but, there's an awful lot of things happening behind the scene. You'd be real wise, should you have any extra Federal Reserve notes,   you'd be very, very wise to, put some in those areas somewhere. Yes, sir.  



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What disturbs me   I and I said it disturbed me, but it concerns me because I can't figure it out   is the stablecoin   deal.   And the not only is,   The Donald, but his entire family is involved in a private   currency   design, if you will.   Yeah.   And I haven't figured that out. It's,   it it looks kinda bad on space to me,   but,   you   know, time will tell.  

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Well, we'll just see. It's a very complex area. We don't know what all is happening. They're trying to evidently straighten the ship and see if we can do some find some way   to satisfy this debt even though we could help them. All they have to do is talk to us, and we'll prove to them it's fraudulent.   Then it's bye bye. Bye bye, debt. Of course, then it's bye bye world economy also.   So, those are some of the the, the old,   the yin's and the yang's of the situation. Anyway, it's particularly interesting if you're especially if you're into the   cyber stuff. I think some of them are gonna be backed by bonds, Joe, and some of them are gonna be backed by gold on these stablecoins.  

I   I just don't   I'm not gonna take the mental energy to go understand it because I don't wanna earn any of them. I've already made my call on this twenty something years ago.   So I'll just wait it out.   So who else has got something this morning? We haven't seen John Casarab yet. Hey,   John. Where are you?   Oh, he's not here, but somebody is. Said, Roger, right there. Who's that?  

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That's Sketch. And, I don't know if you watched the,   Chihuahua. Did you watch the Chihuahua?  

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The I see you had Martin Armstrong on there. I hadn't watched it yet. Yeah. No. I didn't have an Internet for six hours yesterday, so kinda put a hitch in my giddy up sketch.  

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Well,   somebody in the Trump administration   asked for his   help   in in   stopping the war, and he   wrote up a proposal that he works, I guess, four days on   and submitted it to him. And he's hoping that they take it as advice,   but his computer says   that's not gonna happen. We're still going to war.   And one comment that Joe mentioned was the the the crypto that the Trump   family has created.   He pardoned recent   he pardoned recently   a Chinese,   owner   of Binance   who plead guilty   and paid $4,000,000,000   in fines, and he just pardon them. And   Trump's   crypto is runs on an affiliate   or a subsidiary of finance.  

So   that's interesting that  

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that, he What a coincidence.  

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Yeah. What a coincidence.   And,  

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so Well, the other thing pardon me, sketch, but the other thing is just this fellow this Chinese fellow   had been   convicted and imprisoned   about all this,   crypto crap.   So Yep. He's back in the game now after two years in prison.  

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Well, don't forget they they did, release all what's his name? Ulbrich, the guy that had the Silk Road that they had   in jail for so long. I think you gave him a pardon too.  

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And you take that and,   and, oh, what's his name with Pfizer?   Bora.   Bora. Bora. Bora.   Bora. Getting sent Bora. Invited into the into the White House, and, you know, Trump doesn't give Kennedy the time of day.   Smells real bad, Roger.  

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Oh, I don't know. Just gotta keep going. I don't   I there's nothing I can do about it except I I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with you. I'm just gonna still saying.   Well, I'm just yeah. I agree. A lot a lot of things Trump does, I do not like and do not approve of, but I can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.   He's best shot we got,   period,   that I see, anyway.   So, I'm just so glad I know   just have to keep up with all this cybercoin stuff. I'm just not up on I'm I'm not into   upside.   At my age, in my situation, I got no desire for upside. And so but some of you out there do, and that's why we bring it up and   and and have these topics discussed a little bit. But if you really wanna know about them, you're gonna have to go study them and find somebody else.  

There's more expert than me.   Gotcha. Because yes. Well, there's Joan. I bet she's got a whole stack of stablecoins   at Joan.  

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Not one.   Roger, when you said that if the   debt was   proved fraudulent   and, therefore, it disappeared,   so to speak,   And then you said, oh, but then the economy   then you said goodbye   goodbye world economy.   Yeah. You said some   Yeah. But what is so what what what does that mean goodbye world economy? Well, there's no more credit.  

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When when that fraud that exposes the whole debt market, and it's all based on fraud. So all the fraud goes away, and you don't owe it anymore. Right?   Well, it exposes the whole thing. I mean, it's just like Catherine Austin fits in a red button. Have you ever seen that, Joan?  

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I've seen her   with a red what?  

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A red button.   No. She was in front of a group of people one night, and I I had talking. And somebody said, well, how can we deal with this? She said, well, I got this red button right here. All you have to do is press this red button. Everything goes away. All your insurance, all your pensions,   everything else, it's all gonna go away, but we'll be free and, and unobscured by this. So who will press the red button?   And out of the whole room, only one person raise their hand. Well, that's what we're talking about is pressing the red button here.  

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It would go to what it would do away with pensions and what else?  

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Everything.   Everything   would be fraudulent because it's all based on fraud, Joan.  

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Well, what are some other examples of everything?  

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Pension funds, retirements,   the the dollar itself being very suspect,   everything that's based on credit. Nothing moves in this world   without credit.   If there's a tanker full of oil, until they get insured, until they get a credit line to buy that oil, that tanker is never going to leave port.   Everything's   done on credit.   And this shuts down the credit market because it exposes it all as fraud.   Can you not understand that?  

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Yeah. I do now. Thank you.  

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Uh-huh.   So that's the pickle they've got us in. Yeah. We can get them. That's why I said the other day, what we could do   should,   all these things happen, they never will,   quite honestly, but it's good to speculate on. Should we be able to get into the bowels of the treasury department   by utilizing the CUSIP number   that's on the birth certificate that attaches   to the bonds?   And that's how they track the payment to the bondholders is through that CUSIP number. Well, bondholders can sell bonds. They can sell bonds, debts transferred   every day. Okay?  

And so if you could get into the treasury department   and find out who's holding that bond   via that CUSIP number,   then we could differentiate   from mom and pop that had their life savings in treasury bills   versus   BlackRock,   which buys them and sells them to speculate and control everything.   I don't know that we'll ever get that, but that could be one solution   or the legitimate   bond holders   that were not involved in the fraud could get paid.   And the other ones that were involved in the fraud get nothing.   That's one,   one thing that might could happen. If   a whole bunch of things went right, they probably won't. But I'm just saying that's how you could differentiate   differentiate between the good guys and the bad guys.  

Outside of that, we'll just continue to be on. The best other option I can give you   is remove yourself from the federal bankruptcy and the federal status,   and then you can remove yourself from the IRS, and then you don't have to contribute   and pay fraudulent debt for you, your grandchildren, and their grandchildren's grandchildren.   That's another way.   K? So there's a couple of ways to deal with it, but,   I don't wanna be paying a bunch of fraudulent   debt that's hypothecated and rehypothecated   with bogus   or interest bearing,   amounts.  

So that's all I know, Deuce. Come just like the Bible says, come out of her. My people come out of her.   I've got he come out of her well.   Yeah. There's somebody there. Who's that?  

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One more thing, Roger.   The, help ranger and, Andy Shekman,   the the talk about the sodium   batteries.  

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Oh, that was interesting, wasn't it?  

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Yes. And how you know, we we have tons of, salt mines here   in The United States. And why isn't that is it incompetence? Is it is it I pure suppression?   I have no idea. Is not being produced here in America.  

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I have no idea. I've never even heard of it before this interview.   For the audience, it might not have heard about it either.   Who was it? It was,   Adams   or Shekman that was talking about the Who's Adams?   Capabilities. Adams.   Evidently, they've got this new battery. You know, we've been talking about the silver ad that,   oh, one of the Korean places   figured out that that they can add a kilo of silver into a battery, a car battery, and it gives it all kinds of longer life and easier charge   and more distance won't freeze up in the winter and all this.   That was a real advantage. That's probably gonna start seeing kick in in next   year's models.  

But now we hear about this sodium battery. I guess it's based on salt somehow.   And Adam said you could use it through your car's life,   take it out. When your car dies, you can bring it out, put it in another car. It'll never go down or at least   for a long, long, long time. Paul, have you heard about this?   Is Paul out setting up the speakers for tomorrow?  

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No. I'm   I'm hither and fro. So   You're froing and hithering? Right here on the air? I'm froing and hithering. I'm froing and hithering. Lord.  

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Brave guy. Yeah.  

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And,   yes. Sodium batteries have been around for a while. Also, Well, not like these. Not like these. Iron batteries have been around for a while. I mean, there is a battery they used to have twenty years ago,   where,   the battery basically had   no end of lifespan.   None. Yeah. Well, that's fine. What's the difference? Heavy.   Right. They were big and they were heavy, but but once you charge them, they last, like, forever.  

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And they have, like, a million charge discharge cycles. We're just we're going into just a whole new world, folks. I mean, really.  

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With all this stuff, I'd  

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We've had advanced   battery   technology for decades,   and they have buried it for,   oil.   And now they're trying to bring it back saying, oh, look what we discovered. No. You knew about it thirty years ago, but   you were more interested in what was coming out of the pump than what was coming out of the plug.  

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Well, what's happened now is that they have, been developed   ways to substitute   the results from using natural gas that they get the same results   rather than use oil. That's why the price of oil hasn't skyrocketed.   And do you know what I'm saying? Again, I'm just hearing people talk about this. I'm relaying what I heard that I understand. Okay?  

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So I thought that was pretty cool pretty cool. You know, I'm thinking that one of the problems with the price of silver, it's going up and up and up and up and up.   That might have been a, a knee jerk reaction to that silver battery   that threatens the lithium market.  

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No. Because I've never even heard hardly anybody talk about it except for,   Pete Pete Elliott.   But   it could be. It's just going up because of all the natural advantages of such an industrial metal,   and the big players   always buy in the futures market.   And so that's the big scare is that it's going to get to a point where they're going to all load into the futures market   and buy all the future supply.   That's that's one of the big Roger? Yes. Thank you. Oh, good grief. There's Larry. Hey, Larry. You got a pretty big event coming up Saturday at your place.  

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Oh, yeah.   Thank you for reminding me.  

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Yeah. Stay out of the roads on the weekend.   You are what?   Larry, you still there?  

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Yeah. Sorry about that. Okay. That's alright. Speaking of the red button, what is it that,   Eugene Schroeder   said that if the Emergency Powers Act was repealed, wouldn't it fuel all the financial networks?  

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Yeah. He said the whole world economy goes down. Same thing.   So we've got the unique ability   here   to be able to remove you and unhitch you from that wagon.   Because they got you saddled up and harnessed up. You're pulling it.   We we give you the ability to separate yourself from that.   So whether you're if you want to, some people, Larry, some people are just too scared.   They're really scared to do this. Remember, Michael would call up and say, man, can you please give me something where I can sleep better tonight? He was scared to death, these people.   Okay? And that's what they've instilled in an awful lot of people is that attitude.  

Sorry to see it. Well, me too. I used to have it.   I don't anymore.   I think, you know, the last time I filed a ten forty, Paul,   was in 1992,   and it was a ten forty n r.   So I've been out of the tax system a long time, man.   Thank goodness.   I don't even hear from them anymore.   So thank you.   Of course, they wouldn't have an address to send it to.   So who else got something out there? I heard from very many of our females. Gals, y'all, can't got your tongue. That's pretty unusual.   We got no Julie, no Myrrh, no Lisa, no Sherry,   no none of the the vocal gals here this morning. Roger.  



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There's one.  

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There's one. That's miss Julie. Hey, girl.  

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How are you?  

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Well,   I guess I'm alright.   Here this morning.   Pretty morning, I think.  

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I was at an amazing Zoom conference for three full days,   Thursday, Friday, Saturday,   ten hour days with   doctor,   Brian Artis  

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and Oh, okay.  

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Doctor Edward Group and doctor Ealy and doctor Janice Schmidt. So Okay.   Anyway, it was just everything. How to get the metals out of your body, how to,   get the   what to do about the chemtrails,   just all sorts of stuff that they're working on, how to structure your water and get all of the metals out of the water.   So,  

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Well, they say that the people that have have chemtrails say they hadn't been seeing them since the shutdown. So there's one good good result. Oh, no. No. No. That's that's  

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they're spraying you at night when you're sleeping. They're everywhere. I saw   chemtrails galore here yesterday all over in Maryland, DC, and Virginia.  

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Well, sorry.  

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Yeah. Yeah. That's that's,   the the the problem is that the people who are doing this are the NGOs. It's Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and their headquarters are someplace over in some other country.   There that democide agenda   is warp speed, fifteen minute cities and all of that stuff, digital currency that's rolling out.   I don't see a way to stop it.   I would like  

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What what else did you pick up from thirty hours of being with these folks?  

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Oh my god. I have pages and pages and pages of notes, Roger. I don't wanna take up your show with health stuff.  

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Well, hell, it's Monday. Nobody else wants to say anything. I need somebody to fill the time, so I'll give you a shot.  

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I mean, for all of you guys that don't take bee bee pollen, that it that is it. Even if you're allergic to the bee stings, that doesn't mean you're allergic to the bee pollen. But I've been taking that now for about a year, I would say.   Bee pollen is just so healthy for you.   Trying to think what else I can remember off the top of my head because there was No. Artis Artis is a chiropractor,  

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I think, not a doctor. Right?  

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Yeah. He said, yeah. He sold his chiropractor   business, but he does, I believe, see patients right now.   Oh, the nicotine is  

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the nicotine is just so important, but I already reported on on that core. The nicotine Well, we talked about it. But also We we talked about it on Friday, actually, when you were at that seminar. We talked about it with Brad. Yeah.  

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I wear those nicotine patches, and I wear and you can soak your feet in,  

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tobacco. Nicotine?   Yeah.  

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Oil and steep the nicotine   in distilled water and   and put your feet in there and soak them for twenty minutes because the bottom of your feet will soak up all of that. And nicotine is, banned in   in The UK starting 01/01/2026.  

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Really?   Yep. They don't want any of that. Period? Anything like no tobacco and no nothing?  

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Just no no growing of tobacco leaves and no selling of the tobacco leaves. I believe cigarettes can be sold, but you can't use they don't want you using   tobacco   for medicinal purposes.  

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Yeah. Because they wanna help you. Know  

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I didn't know they could even grow tobacco in England.   Yeah. A warm weather crop.  

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Yeah. I don't know what their soil is, and I don't know what the how to even   how to even begin to grow that. But I know that they   they grow it here in my state because I bought a bunch of it. I actually spoke to Paul about this in Virginia?  

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Hell, I guess. Yeah. Paul Beaner.  

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Paul Beaner told me there's a better place to get it than where I got it, but it's it's organic tobacco. It came in a ginormous bag.   Mhmm. And it wasn't expensive at all, but you can take what I have and roll your own,   cigarettes if you smoke.  

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Yeah. My stuff is called native tobacco or something. I think it's got a real, real high,   nicotine content. We're talking about it again on Friday. Dave, of course, you may. You may. Hi, Dave. Thank you.   A a few years back,   my sister-in-law was here with   one of her boyfriends and, you know, he's a Michigan boy, and,   he gave me a Christmas gift of a a satchel of,   homegrown   tobacco that he grew in his backyard here in Michigan.   And he he,   he cured it with rum,   you know, to keep it from going,   from molding and get going bad. And I'm telling you, it was   I put it in a in a corn cob pipe and smoked it, and it was incredible.  

So, yeah, I I think you can grow tobacco pretty much anywhere. You know, personal crop,   I don't know if you can grow it like they do in in Virginia, but   if shit. If you can grow it in Michigan, you could probably grow it anywhere. I   see. That's probably true, Dave. Thank you.  

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Yep. Yep. Julie? I What else? What else? Growing it in my living room. And moved it to my porch.   Really? I finished it. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I got a How'd you grow it? Out of seeds? Grow out of seeds or what, Paul? Yeah. Yeah. I've got, thousands of nicotiana rustica   seeds.   Thousands of,   Virginia   seeds, Kentucky   burley,   Canadian,   or Alaskan,   broadleaf.   I've got it all. I've got tens of thousands of Well,   if you tobacco seeds.  

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If you can grow it in Alaska, you can damn sure grow it in England.  

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Well, it's it's it's a hearty variety   that does grow in Alaska.  

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Well, I mean, the only deal with Alaska is that they have   the sunless summers, basically.   Twenty two, twenty plus hours of sunlight off for a couple of months. And you get up there in some of that rich soil North Of Anchorage, around the Matanuska Valley,   and man, they grow unbelievably   big stuff up there. It'd blow your mind.   Right. They have a county fair every fall, and the world's biggest biggest   cabbage and all that kind of stuff. I mean, they're just huge things. I always wondered what it'd be like growing pot up there.  

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Well, I think that the seed   that the the variety has to be   acclimated   to   a twenty four or twenty two hour   light cycle   because plants are just like people.   They need their downtime.  

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Yeah. They do. True. True. So,  

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I'm thinking that the plants have to be have to specifically   adapt to Mhmm. The light conditions in Alaska.  

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I remember going up there as a kid and and paint trying, I think. I don't know how good I did and don't have the patience when you're young at Pan And Gold.   You should go up there on the rivers around Palmer and Pan Gold, for Lord's sake. Just  

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just look for the black sand.   All you gotta do, look for the black sand.  

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Yep. Yep. Yep.   So It's not what all can tell you. It just takes patience.   I was so fortunate to get to spend those years of my life up there, those teenage years.   It's just a fabulous place back then. It was before the North Slope. It was really remote,   and truly behind the times in a sense. They didn't even get live television at that point.   And, yep. Cool place. Alaskans are great people, and we've been fortunate to have several here in this   student audience. Our buddy, Daniel, who lives down there in the Southern Panhandle. We didn't get   to hear from him Saturday. He's probably out fishing or something.  

So, yeah, great place.   I   like Scott.   Yep. Yep. Yep. Old Sam McGee. Have you ever heard this? You ever heard this here? Paul Rick. Old Sam McGee was from Tennessee.   Yeah. With cotton blooms and blows.   And why he left there to come up north, the good lord   only knows. He was always cold cold,   but that land of gold seemed to grab him like a spell.   And he'd often say in his homely way   that he'd rather be in hell.   The cremation of Dan McGee. That's the first part of it.  

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Mhmm. Yeah. I'm not   I,   I tried to answer you, but I was mid sneeze, so I was forced to Oh, okay.  

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Well, yes, please. You don't wanna sneeze in the middle of the cremation of Sam McGee's first answer.  

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Absolutely  

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not. Absolutely not. Please.   Service. The, author of that was a guy named William Service, I think. He wrote a whole bunch of really good poems. He used to an Alaska guy, transferred up there, but one that was probably   the most famous one, the cremation of Sam McGee. And it ends up and he's looks he looks over and there's Sam McGee   inside the damn oven over there. He says, hell is the only place I could get warm.  

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Really?  

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Yeah. That's a cool phone.  

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Alright. So we might as well, kick this off right now.   Within literally seconds, we're gonna be signing off of WVOU FM in Chicago.   Yeah. Yeah. The net family of broadcast services may be leaving us for the first hour. So if you're listening to us on a platform and everything goes dark,   everything goes black,   what happened? What happened? Go to the matrixtalks.com.   Pick up the Eurofolk radio link or the Global Voice radio link or just use FCC and join us live on the show. That'll work.  

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Okay.  

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Thanks so much for being here.  

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Alright.   Thank you. Yeah. See. There's no whistler. The whistler's coming. That was real good. Good segue.   Good segue  

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there. Yes. We're,   our,   I mean, our start our startup today was so   so it's so problematic. I knew the whistler wasn't gonna show up at the right time. Well, you know, I mean, it's just tragic when you fire  

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them big time coaches. It's tragic.   Carl. I want Carl, are you still listening out there?   Carl came on to talk about first and the status of the government shutdown on it. Carl, are you still with us?   Uh-oh. Carl?   Well, now see, I got something real important to impart on to him. I wanted to ask him if he'd heard us discuss this Dyette case. Isn't that how you say that first part of the style, Dyett?   Mhmm.   Paul, d y e t t e, Dyett at Dodge? Yeah. It is.   Okay. Dyett case in Utah.   Well,   for your wife who isn't on board with you, of course, she thinks she's gonna lose her job or whatever. That'd be discrimination.   But,   or anyone else that is in Utah that may be listeners,   you you gotta get out of jail free card.  

Your Supreme Court in this Dyett v what was the other party's party's name? Hanson or Thompson or Tom Thompson.   I don't think it was Thompson. Turner. Turner. Turner.  

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Turner.  

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Why is it starting to be Oh, okay. We're all kinda   close.   Anybody in Utah, you got a get out of jail free card right there should you get opposed by any official.   You have got a ruling from your state supreme court on this, and that is binding precedent in your state.   So, congratulations.   I'm anxious to see maybe when   mister Mark can be back with us.   And,   he was gonna take that case and feed it into AI and see what AI said about it.   See, if anybody's gonna do that, I really would suggest rather than maybe utilize the standard AI engines that are out there,   You may wanna go over even though it's kinda out of subject area for them mainly and go to the Brighteon AI,   Enoch.  

And you do brighteon.com,   mike adams front slash ai.   I'll put you right on their search engine. I've not been over there. I don't plan on going over there. May need to one of these days, but at this point,   he he he somebody went over there and ran something through they weren't expecting.   On the legal side of things much of an answer and came back with a real good answer. So somebody might try Enoch when doing that.   Yikes. AI, Paul. Holy shit.   Because you're about the one the guy the the kid that,   create,   hang himself. EI told him to hang himself. AI did, and he went and did it in the closet.  



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Yeah. I heard about that. That's ridiculous.  

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Well, let's see. You just never know when you're fooling with these things, at least, unless you go to Mike Adams. That's why I would stir people over to Enoch because   Mike Adams is a real stand up guy. You know? I we don't know who the large language   learners, teachers were   on these other,   AI instruments.   Anyway,   pretty cool. We're into the second hour here of the old Monday,   your radio ranch.   Mister Kasaram has not shown to my heart.   Was that Samuel?  

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir.  

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Hey, Samuel. Hi. Hi. Good morning. Hello.  

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Yes.  

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Roger, talk did did you ever, hear about the Win or Lose Oil Company?  

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No.  

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That was a particular,   scandal that was hanging over Huey Long   at the time of his assassination.   Uh-huh. And some people   some people believe that   his whole organization   was   in on it   and wasn't reporting taxes and that,   the same in domestic federal and you know,   FDR hated the competition from long.  

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And So did the Rockefellers.   They scared senator at HON. Right? He scared the hell out of them. Yep.  

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So   supposedly,   FDR supported the same investigator that took down Capone, Ira Elmer Irae, I think is his name.   And they supposedly,   had the goods on all of Long's people.   And there's a theory that some people say that   Long people were told, like, if you get rid of Huey,   we'll leave you all alone.  

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And Well, I know that investigation  

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came out one day before   they assassinated him. So there's a theory that his own people killed him and framed the Jewish I think it was a son-in-law or something or I don't know what it is. Was Weiss.  

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His last name was Weiss. He was at Shreveport.   I've not heard that theory, Samuel. I'm not saying it couldn't be true. K?   I'm not saying the guy was was clean as the driven snow. I just said he was a hell of a leader.  

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Yeah. I don't know why. I agree. Well,  

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he he would talk about and give these charismatic speeches about how the Rockefellers   had had   had taken the whole   pile of food, and they just wanted to have a few little scraps over here. You know? But they don't even wanna give you the scraps. They wanna keep it all.   Those there's some good,   you can find.   They, had film back then. You can find it on on YouTube. I'm sure you're gonna put in he was long speeches. You'll see some stuff.   Dynamic charismatic   guy.   K.   And   I might add that just because we're on that day today, Rick,   is, you know, Bear Bryant is credited with building Alabama's football   team. There were some real skeletons in the closet there too, by the way.  

But,   Huey P Long built LSU's football team.   He was   he had great influence on the LSU program. It's what it is today. He said one of the things he said, Rick,   he said, I want the average working man to work a full day work and be able to go see the Tigers play at night.   That's why LSU has so many night games.   K? Now they just fired a coach yesterday, I guess. I just found out about it, Brian Kelly.   They, they Texas A and M came in there and just skinned   Saturday night in the second half.   And, first time they had won a game over there since, what, 1992?   Quite a while. They added Vendetta. They got an excellent team. They may be national champions this year. They're that good.  

But, that's, he has been there for a couple of years.   That was the twentieth game played at night in Tiger Stadium that he's coached, Rick. And I'm sure if you watched it, you saw he's only lost two, went to Alabama and that one Saturday night. But they're gonna run him off.   K? So, anyway,   that's the program Huey Pilong built. I got pictures of him, Rick, out on on the 50 yard line before the game with his arms around referee   on both sides.   He used to sit on the bench sometime with the players.   He was a big, big, big supporter of LSU football   for whatever that's worth. Now you know that stadium they got there? And you you've seen seen that. It's got all those windows on the outside.  

That's a dorm room.   And what happened was he was trying to get through   a piece of   legislation   to build a new football stadium,   and his opponents   in in the State House stopped it.   So they went back to the drawing board, and they came back with a bill to build dormitories.   And when they got finished with the building, there was a football stadium inside.   That's true history. K?   Just on this day anyone is curious,  

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there's a, there's an old black and white movie,   and it's   the character's name is not Huey Long, but it obviously parallels Huey Long's story.   It's called All the King's Men.   Yeah. All the King's Men. It's broader Crawford in the way he wrote. It's really good.  

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They they there was a history professor at LSU that wrote that and got the Nobel Prize for it, and they turned it into a movie, All the King's Men.   Right there about the kingfish. That's what they called him. He was a really incredible guy. You know, one of our listeners, listeners,   Rick Duane, from New Orleans, he'll stop in occasionally.   His great grandfather   was in the long regime and machine,   and he had control over a big print operation   in New Orleans.   And so he'd get a call from Huey   or his somebody in his administration, and they'd go in and print some flyer   that they needed to be all over the state the next day. And they'd print it overnight. They'd load up those planes out of an airport in in early morning, and they'd go to every key city in the state. Alexandria,   Shreveport, Monroe,   Lake Charles, all of them. And that next day, that information was in people's hands on the street, and that was Duane's grandfather that did that. And after he Huey got elected,   he made him the guy to oversee all the printing of Allstate documents.  

So, I'm sure he did pretty well.   Yeah. Dwayne can tell you that story.   Comes on next time.   So, anyway, we're rudderless over there.   We'll see who they, go after.   Unbelievable.   I just I didn't think they'd do that, Rick. I didn't think they'd run you off over that, but   that's the, the, the pressure of the fan base these days   in these high stakes. What used to be a nice college game   was somewhat unadulterated,   a little bit   cankered with,   but had a lot of tradition and a lot of enthusiasm.   And with this,   basically, a minor league deal now with the, with, being able to pay players, NIL, they call it. And then this portal where   the I was watching this game, I forget which game, Saturday, and they're going, this guy's real unusual. He's only played for one school.  

You'll get on there. Somebody will do something. They'll say, well, he he originally started here and then went over to Heather and then went to Yon and then another one and then came to this school. So he's just been five schools in a college career. The guy, the running back, I can tell you his name actually, Rick Faison   from South Carolina because it's an unusual name. He's 25 years old. He's still playing college football.   25 years old. The the coach over there said that in the fall, when they were reporting to camp, he was getting calls from from pro scouts every day saying, isn't this guy supposed to be in a pro camp? He's over there playing now in this seventh year   of eligibility   in college football.  



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Well, Ashley,   the way it works, a lot of those players come out of junior college, JUCO. Yeah. And and that doesn't count. So when they go to the university, they've got four a whole new slate. Yeah.  

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Well, it's just not the old you  

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Go go ahead. The LSU coaching job is probably second only to Alabama as far as prestige.  

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I have no doubt about that. It's a big time school. You know, part of what did that was him   making the team play at night.   Because when the team could play at night, right down the road, 90 miles, they got this clear channel radio station called WWL,   and they would broadcast those games up over a lot of the geographical area of North of of The US.   It has tremendous reach at night, WWL.   And so that's how a lot of people became fans of the program and the school. And hearing about it is because of those broadcasts, and   you're probably right.  

It's a very prestigious job.   So I'm I hope they find somebody who can satisfy their wishes this time. It's very difficult. Boy, it must be difficult being in college coaching these days. But what about when the downside is you get fired and you get $53,000,000?   Hell, they only paid Orgeron 17, and he won a national championship.   So don't know.   It   it's just interesting, though. So sorry if you're not into   college football and stuff. We've strayed a little bit from our usual thing, but it's a passion of mine and,   there's two. Roger?  

Yes. There's Samuel again. Yes, sir. Well, hold on. Wahib Samuel was first. Yes, Samuel.  

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Yeah. On on batteries, the,   the the Chinese are experimenting with,   it's it's a ceramic   electrolyte,   and it's nickel and carbon.   It's a very strange blend of things where we normally think of batteries. But   in one of their top line cars, it gets a 650   mile range, and it takes about thirty minutes to charge it to 80%.   The final part of the charge course is always slower because that's gotta be more pulsed and regulated.   But anyways, that's still pretty good, but you know what they've got over there? I mean, this this battery weighs like 5,000 pounds. Right?   They have changing stations that can change it out in two and a half minutes.  



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Okay.   So they got one on the shelf  

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that's a 100% charged. You go to a gas station that's got a Yeah. You stack a battery that and a robot that throws it in there for you. So Yeah. They make the exchange. You pay them something, and you're on your way.  

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That's smart. Yeah. But  

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the thing is that the power out of that plug still comes from, for the most part, coal and natural gas fired  

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power plants. They've got a charger. They're building  

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they're building the new nuclear reactors,   and they're they're so far ahead of us. Who's gonna own the batteries?  

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I have no idea, man. I didn't even know they had a capability to do things like that. He said, who's gonna own the batteries?  

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Oh, yeah. Who knows? I mean, it, it's it's your fuel. So   And what does it cost for a change and all that? I don't know, and   really how practical is all that, but still,   they're making advances, and it's not explosive either like lithium, because the   the electrolyte is a ceramic   semi liquid   material,   so it doesn't spill easily, etcetera.   But,   you know, they're building the new   reactors   that,   you know,   are originally our technologies that we were the first of,   in the sixties. They've taken   those original ideas and got functioning reactors. So,   I mean, they're,  

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Well, look.  

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Pretty amazing right now what China's doing.  

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The Chinese are notorious.   They'll steal anything that isn't tied down. They'll plot to steal what is tied down.   And if you don't believe that, you go look at a book. You can find it on the web. I've mentioned it before.   I believe the author is named Thompson,   and the name and title of the book is Ways That Are   Dark.   Now this was published before   the Chinese rev Communist Revolution.   This is the way he had two tours of China as an ambassador from The US   from an ambassadorial   family.   He had two tours over there and it's a compilation of their experiences, the English,   the embassy   and the other English speaking embassy because they all kind of hang together   in,   groups, You know? So they relate with the language and stuff and culture.  

And, that's when that book was written, and you'll find   the China culture is,   well, less thieving and stuff like that is just second nature to it   and evidently always has been. So if you wanna find out the truth on China,   ways that are dark, you can find it on the web.  

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It was published by the Did he write that book before or after the Opium Wars?  

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Well, the Opium Wars were before that. He wrote it in about a hundred years ago. So why he'd be were trying to say something a minute ago?  

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Yes. They,   the,   silver squeeze.  

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Yes.  

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Your take on the sov the big silver squeeze is supposed to be is supposed to be Yeah. The banks are well, the banks are what you say, Wahid,  

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messed up with a capital f.   But they'll probably find a way to wiggle out of it. Okay? And what Wahib is talking about, if the audience doesn't know, is the way they've been suppressing silver   and they attack silver more than gold.   Silver's a smaller market. It's easier to control.   And,   silver generally leads   gold if there's   upward mobility.   And so they try and concentrate on silver and keeping it down.   Now the way they do that mainly, there's probably other ways. These are slick folks.   There's a thirty minute window   from when New York closes   and the oriental   offices open.  

There's a thirty minute dead time window when there's no buyers.   And so what they do is they go in, and if you're gonna short a stock or you're gonna bet, it goes down,   then you have to   borrow the shares.   You have to accumulate if I'm gonna short a thousand shares of silver,   thousand contracts, and a thousand ounces apiece,   then I would have to go get those shares from somebody   before I could enter that short position as a bet.   Well, because these are the guys that run the show, they've let them do that without having to do that.   So in that thirty minute window,   they will dump maybe as much or more   as a whole half a year's production of silver   in that thirty minutes on naked shorts that they don't have the contracts for. So what they're doing is illegal right from the start. Okay?  

And then because there's no buyers and there's so much more ample supply   or leaseback   paper supply,   the price gets knocked down. And that's how they keep it down. They've been doing it for years. It's no secret.   Okay. So that's what YEAP is talking about. And the bankers that have been taking on these naked shorts,   every time silver   what is it? What is it? Every time silver goes up a dollar, they lose a $100,000,000   or something on their position.   Because short positions, and I don't have a whole handle on the Wall Street crap, are very volatile.   And if you put yourself in that position in shorting a stock and it continues to go down, you can absolutely   lose everything you've got, period.  

That's where the bankers are right now.   Like that, Wahid?  

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Wahid, we open this market.  

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Will it exactly what it what is they call gold a commodity? Gold and silver commodity? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It takes me a while.   Okay. So that's what's going on. What so what's going on with the bankers? They're screwed unless they can figure out a way to come up with all this silver. If you go to London and try and order silver right now, Paul, they'll say maybe we can ship it next month.  

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Maybe.  

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Did you, a heck of a ton. Trading places. Remember the movie?  

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I do. I don't remember very much about it, but I kinda Eddie Murphy  

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Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd. That was trading places.   These two   rich guys that basically had nothing to occupy their time bet   a dollar   that they could take somebody from a,   from a privileged family   and   a privileged trading position in the commodities market and destroy him,   and at the same time, take somebody that was homeless and on the street   and turn him into a financial  

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monster. Jesse Jesse, Jesse Livermore.  

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Right. And they bet a dollar   that they could do it.   And,   oh, it was it was hilariously funny. I vaguely remember that.   It had to do with orange futures.   Okay. Frozen concentrated orange juice and all that happened Uh-huh. Stuff. Well,  

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all all those markets in every country in the world,   except for maybe a few,   are all controlled by the Bank of International Settlements in Zurich, Switzerland.  

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Mhmm.  

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So we'll see. And, the banks are buying gold. They're not buying stable coins. They'll use stable coins in a transition, I guess,   but, they're not buying them. They're they're buying gold. And the statement on one of these Shekman interviews I heard was they're gonna be buying gold for the next five years at least.   So there's no short term trend,   and gold's got a lot of upside, folks.   So I and if you can't afford gold, try and get some silver. Try and get use a a little bit of cash. You can go buy pawn shops and coin shops if you got some in your area and that sort of stuff. They may have some good silver on hand.   So, anyway, protect yourself as best you can.  

And if you're new and just coming on to this scenario,   you you you don't have a lot of time.   I don't believe.   I think we're right up right up next to it within months. Don't know how long. Hey, Brock. Nobody predict that, but we're we're very close. Why he why he why he what?  

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I left   a great summary of everything you're saying by Greg Matarino,   which is just from just from an hour ago. It's in your, chat.   He gives a great summary on  

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Okay.  

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How I was pretty right, wasn't I? What I gave to the audience pretty on top of it, ain't it?  

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Oh, yeah. You you'd basically,   similar similar to what he's saying. That's what I'm saying. But he goes into more detail.  

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Well, I would hope so. It's a specialty.   I don't hardly mess with this stuff anymore. I'm   studying it and reading about it and thinking about it for many years now.   I made my right decisions about twenty years ago, and I gotta tell you that probably that and leaving the country   may be the two best decisions I've ever made.   Rick, what you got?  

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Melody's   Melody   Sederstrom   Yes. Says that when you call if you call her and mention rent, you heard her on rent, she'll sell you silver at spot.  

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Rent's dot Rent's as in Jeff Rent?   He he endorses her?   Okay. Yeah. Well, she's got she who who else reports, who works?   A a a chihuahua   works with Melanie.   Do you know Melody's in the Cedars from, story?  

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Not going.  

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Back when we first started getting Patriot stuff on shortwave   and all that, there was, there was two Cedar Stream brothers, Eric and another one. She was married to the other one. And this Eric Cedars from was supposedly a   well, not you're not a good guy you wanna deal with. I don't know about his brother. But Melody married him and evidently got the gold and silver business in the divorce   or bought it from him. I don't know the arrangements, but she ended up with it. Now the other people were the original guy that had this spot. I don't know who that was, but I tell you the other one was Jeff Bennett.   So it was Bennett, these two Cedars from brothers and somebody else, and they'd rotate,   announcer positions on WWCR   over there on whoever was up or what night it was or whatever, but they had a slot on WWCR,   and that's where all that originated.  

FYI.   Samuel.  

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I saw a spot ad for JM Bullion. I think they're offering   ten   one ounce rounds for   spot,  

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currently.  

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Which is what? $50?   $500   for 10 silver rounds. My god. Who'd ever thought?   I I remember silver walking eagles,   Liberty's being $3.50 an ounce.  

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You know, last week, I can believe it because that's what I paid.  

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What? 50? 50 something? To be a jewelry supply store, a huge one in Marin in in Sausalito.   It was a vault that you walked in when you walked into it, but I remember going in there. You know? It was   it was worth a lot of money in its day, but it was, like,   one one hundredth of it, what it is today. You know? Yeah. Yeah.  

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I remember Mark Dimes. I mentioned   I've been sitting at the Wauhib the other day that Mark Dies bit where he go around. He got across from a shopping center where there was a pawn shop right over there. And he'd have a, Hershey bar in one hand and a and a 10 ounce or something silver bar, I don't know how big it was, in his other hand. And he'd say, which bar do you want? I swear to you, I must well, of course, everybody they put on camera chose the Hershey bar.   We say, look. You can go right over there. There's that pawnshop right over there. You can go over and get this assayed and prove what it is. Now I'll take the Hershey bar. Thanks.   I it happened a bunch.  

Yes, Wahid. What were you trying to add that I stepped on?   Wahid.  

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I got yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta go through this whole motion to get back online because, like, my phone is really weird. Yeah. I was saying you said I I'm telling you saying earlier   that I had paid for seven   for seven options came to $518  

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No. There'll be a a week ago. But but but why he there'll be a point where you'll look back and go, man, I got a great deal.  

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Because silver's going nowhere, but I'm I've been buying it since   I've been buying it since 2019, but I've never paid anything   for I've ever tried I'd buy double or triple that amount with that type of money be in the past.  

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It's the highest it's ever been. Right? Gold is highest it's ever been.   Relative to the con currency it's purchased in.   I mean, I'm I'll be I'm stunned because Robbie Noel   did you ever hear him, Wahib, over on RBM in the old days, Robbie Noel, the guy from South Africa?  

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From no.  

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RBM? No. I don't think I was with the program back then. Okay. Well, that's too bad. He was a great metals guy. He had a a South African, that colonial accent, and   and he was he had been a stock broker. He really knew what he was talking about. And he's the first person I ever heard mentioned Bitcoin. I can tell you that.   And,   old Robbie would say, among other things, he used to have a lot of sayings. He'd say, you're never gonna buy at the bottom, and you're never gonna sell at the top.   So just go ahead and get in the pool.   And he's right. But, you know, as I look back when I I was so fortunate right there in that early part of this   century   where we went through that element called Brown's bottom.  

And I would I I bought I bought a big slug of gold, $10,000   worth. It was what I had remnants from my house.   And I bought that on the day Bill Clinton was impeached,   and it was $300   on the nose.   And I remember the guy I bought it through goes, well, that's an unusually big buy, you know, but I it's about the last I've been able to salvage that they IRSed and steal from my house proceeds.   And, after that,   another thing that happened, Rick,   you did you ever listen to a Neil Bortz?  

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Oh, yeah. All the time. He's actually, he's still,   he he has a, daily   two or three minute   thing on, in Atlanta Station, and he comes on once a week with the the duo crew there for about fifteen  

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minutes. On SB?  

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No. It's another another Atlanta station.   Was it is GSD?  

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Maybe or something like that. Oh, I've never heard of that one. You know, you know the one he started on was Ring Radio,   w r n g.   And the re how he got started is he was in a he went through, one of these,   well, not a correspondence law school, but like Woodrow Wilson Law School.   And he got to be an attorney,   and he's very political, and he'd call into Ring Radio all the time.   And, because I used to have to call on them occasionally.   K? And,   so finally, they had an opening one day. The announcer wasn't there. I don't remember what happened.   And and either he said,   hire me or whatever. He ended up on the station at Ring Radio. That's where he started.  

And,   then he got over there on on GST.   And he was on GST for a long time   until they they wanted to syndicate him nationally on WSB.   Now WSB   in Atlanta is the Cox family   broadcasting   contingent.   That's WSB AM,   WSB FM,   WSB   TV,   and Cox cable. That's a pretty nice little conglomerate they've got there. Oh, they also own the Atlanta Journal Constitution   or constipation   as some people are likely to call it. So they hired boards over.   Do what now? You're on  

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vacation. And they owned Blockbuster.  

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I didn't know that, Brent. Good info. Thanks. Anyway, they're pretty wealthy family. The grandfather   that started all this was a senator from Ohio.   Senator Cox   tried to run him for president, I believe, a time or two. Anyway,   his,   family now owns all that plus all kinds of other stuff.   And,   so they wanted to hire boards   and syndicate him   nationally.   And so when he left GST   to go over to WSB   and you're a big time broadcaster,   you have no compete clauses in your contract.   So the contract was that you won't be on the air for six months   until that goes by, and then you can establish yourself on the new broadcast facility.  

So he was off the air for six months.   Well, where do what happened to that vacuum?   Anybody know? Rush Limbaugh.  

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No? Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh. Though. On Hannity. Close.  

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Hannity.   That's where Hannity came from. He was in Huntsville.   Over there were riches at a station   that used it's w a a y. It used to be a music station,   big fifty thousand watt day timer. And that was his first real radio job, and his p program director was a Jew named Stone. And Stone got the PD job over at GST. And   And the minute there was an opening, he brought Sean over. Now that's where all these people came from right there out of Atlanta in that that little,   nefarious group of stations. Thank you, Rick. I'm glad you used to listen to Bortz.   So he's still alive.  



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Yeah. He's basically in retirement, but he he still likes the devil. But   yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's down you know what? I just out of curiosity,   I didn't know he was on, and I looked him up the other day. And I went over and listened to one of his little fifteen minute deals with the,   the two guys that run the morning crew.   And, ironically enough, he's all behind Israel getting,   rid of Hamas and against the Palestinians and all that. So Well, why am I not surprised?  

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He he is Yeah. He's got quite an attitude, and   that's his bent. And, you're never gonna change him. So, anyway, I thought he'd probably be dead by now. I'm sure he lives down in Naples, Florida. He'd sent his wife down there with all that money. Yeah. SB was paying him and speculated   on a bunch of real estate.  

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He may have done Well, he bought himself one of the   he bought himself one of those million dollar RVs. You know, the big one is like the Greyhound bus side, you know, and tools. Mhmm.  

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Well, no thanks. I'm just I like just being I've traveled my whole life. I'm not interested in doing that.   I like it right here. I like I'm a Cancer.   I like my shell, and,   I'm just pretty happy being right where I am.   Samuel, I hope you are too wherever you are. Samuel?  

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Hey, Roger.  

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Yeah. I was gonna say that, I just had a piece by Simon Dixon. Haven't had just to open it. You know, everything you send me ends up in spam.   I don't know why. I got a couple other people just like that. And so I don't always check it. I looked over there this morning. I saw it. I just hadn't looked at it yet. Okay?  

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It it's a little long, but if you at least,   go through the first five and and the last five minutes of it,   I think you'd be intrigued. It would be great to get your opinion on what the guy has to say. It's a little different than most.   Pretty pessimistic, but it also has  

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ways out at the end. So Well, I'll try. I'll try. Don't promise to hold my feet to the fire. Brent, what you got, good buddy?  

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One time,   before I met you, Bortz,   had received a package.   I guess it had videos and tapes and a bunch of info in it.   He didn't even open it. The thing didn't have a return address.   Right. And he shit canned it right there on the air.  

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He was a really he's one of the was that?   I'm a tell you. I got on there one day and held, and we were talk he was talking about tax stuff.   And I was gonna show him nonresident alien in the tax code,   except he had some guy he wanted to interview that had climbed Mount Everest or something.   So that guy came on, and I had to wait for, like, forty five minutes to listen to that. So I get finished. Bortch picks my call, and I start to get into it. And he said, we don't have time for the nuances of words and hangs up on me. I said, that's the last time you'll get my my hour wait.   So, anyway, yeah, very pomp pompous,   and, you probably   might not like him personally if you met him. But he's a real good radio host,   even with his   deficiencies, let's say, Brent.  

So oh, good. Well, I'm glad to know Borch is still around. He's funny as hell. He can be a he's a very good announcer.   And, but he's got these   Israel first and all these other traditional   ways of looking at things. He's not an all he's not an all thinker.   He does not think outside the box. K? So, yes, he was trying to say something? I listen.  

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I listened to him for years, but, yeah, he is an ass.  

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He's a pompous son of a bitch.  

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Well, he is. He had a, black producer that named Royal Marshall that put her in a in a Rolls Royce.  

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Is he still around, Royal, with SB?   Yeah. I'm probably. I don't know. I hadn't listened to him. He was the black designated black sidekick when Bortz moved over, and then he had a female. I don't remember who the female was. But,   yeah, it's pretty good. They syndicated him nationally. I don't know how well that went for him. That means for that means there's a whole bunch of other radio stations around the country who carry his radio shows, what that means.   So, anyway,   he was,   we used to listen to Bortz every morning. See?   And then so, Rick, have I have you ever heard the story of how Hannity and I met?  



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Yeah. I was like, I think yeah. Yeah. You told it before I heard it. I haven't heard it, honey. He was in long time.   Well, you just moved up  

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no. You just moved to GST, and I was teaching at the Art Institute of Atlanta.   And I taught broadcasting.   And so I knew about surveys and how they rate radio stations so their salesman   can sell the product, their product.   And, so anyway, I had gotten a call one day from Arbitron.   Arbitron is a big radio, and I think them and Nielsen have now merged.   But I got Arbitron was the radio one, and I knew the whole routine because I taught it to my students.   And so the we're taking a survey, radio survey, and would you like to participate? And I said, yes.   They pay you a dollar a booklet. You gotta keep all the entries or what you're listening for so many weeks.  

Excuse me. And,   and so I said, okay. And they said, how many in your family?   And I knew they'd send you six as the upper limit. So I said six. They said, great.   And so they sent me those six diaries. Well, I wasn't gonna sit there. What I wanted to do   was to skew   the diaries   and put down WWCR,   the shortwave station in Nashville.   So I'm sitting there and filling them out one Sunday afternoon.   We were all all our little group was listening to Sean.   And so we got something   topical came up, Cole left a message for him.   Well, I didn't realize he returned his messages. So I'm sitting there on that Sunday afternoon, beautiful day,   filling out these diaries, and the phone rings. And it's Sean Hannity. He goes, Roger, this is Sean Hannity. I went, holy smokes. Said, Sean, you never believe what I'm doing right now. I'm filling out ARB diaries. I thought the guy was gonna have a conniption.  

Holy smokes. Put me down. Put me down.   All that. So the next morning so we have a conversation and set up a lunch, I think. And and so the next day, he tells me he goes into the station and the the manager's   GM's office is right there by the door. And he walks in, he starts skipping down the hall going, I got a listener with six diaries.   And and and the the GM   yanks him in the office and says, shut up, man. If that ever gets out, they'll kick us out of the out of the survey.   So, anyway, that's how Sean and I met.   True story. K?  

And he was green,   and I'd already been through radio   and was up there teaching broadcasting.   And, so I was like a guru to him.   Sean's nickname for me is the professor.   So if any of you ever call in there and just say, I know the professor, he'll know who you're talking about. I promise you.   But, boy, has he turned on the stinky side. He used to be a really good guy back then. He already knew a lot of this stuff. His sister and her friends were into it in California.   They'd introduced him to it. And, boy, he went up there to New York and went the   the the the well, I've always thought Mark Levin, who's been   joined at the hip with him since he got up there, I always thought Mark Levin was his massage   handler. I used to say that twenty years ago.  

Well, looks like that's accurate.   So, anyway, yep. Yeah. Mark. Go way back. Haven't had any contact in a long time, but   used to be a very good guy. I don't like his position. And quite frankly, I'm a little bit I've seen. I'm not sure I like him too much anymore, Rick.  

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Yeah. Mark Levin would come home in the afternoon,   same station on GST.   But, yeah, Fox ruined John. I I remember when he got the job and he had to sell his house,   and he was advertising his house, the one with the babbling brook in the back of it so he can move to New York.  

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Yeah. I didn't see that part no one watching him then.   I'm sure he's making a he's a gazillionaire   by by now.   But,   back then, he was a real nice guy.   And, I was really honored to know him and privileged, I thought, to know somebody that was nationally syndicated. He went up there in New York, got on WABC,   and, nationally syndicated. I thought, man, I know this guy that got hit the big time.   You know why he did that? You know how he did that, Rick? You remember me telling y'all?  

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Go ahead. He wanted his own Gulfstream like Rush. I know that.  

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Well, I can well, Rush's brother was his is his agent.   So that's how the meteoric   climb happened.   They found, I was him and I were, communicating back when it was happening.   And what would they they tapped him somehow,   and, they'd bring him up to New York on the weekends.   They'd fly him up to New York, stick him on some obscure channel, a cable channel, and see how his ratings were.   And,   evidently, he did very well, and they ended up moving him up there.   I'm sure he's very wealthy, but to me, he sold his soul   at this point. But,   that's the way it happens.  

Who else has got something you wanna talk about these days? Right. We got about 15   or so left. The sketch wants to say something. Hey, sketch. Yeah. Roger.   Go ahead.  

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Sorry.   Yes.   You mentioned Venezuela,   and,   I wanna ask you a quick question. I got further conversation. But, so you really think that, they're going,   putting all those assets just for drugs   with Venezuela?  

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It's a hell of an excuse, isn't it?  

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Excuse. Yes. And so, you know,   America has a history of not respecting other people's sovereignty.   Would you agree with that?  

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I would if you but does that include the Monroe doctrine?  

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Oh, that   oh, I don't know. But I I was specifically   thinking about the assets   that they have confiscated,   maybe just interest of Russia.   Right?  

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They've got assets they've confiscated.  

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I'm not sure where you're going here. From Russia. The either the interest that is deposited in in the banks here.   I know Europe has confiscated   the interest,   and I think The US has also confiscated at least the interest that was deposited   in in our banks.  

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Well, the Russian party's talking about   sanctions  

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sanctions. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Sanctions. Yes. But they took the money. The and you I mean Well, they  

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yes, that's right. I think they left, gave it back to the European union or something. I'm not sure. But yeah, there's some of that skullduggery  

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going on and that's. Right. So my question is, I feel like Venezuela is kind of like a beach yet. It's very close to the Panama Canal.   And Yes. If if if we have a history of not respecting others' people's sovereignty,   you know, there's a lot of gold   in South America.  

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Okay.  

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And,   if if Well, I we wanted to to get a lot of gold   we'll certainly other people's sovereignty,  

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we could take a lot of gold down there. Okay. Let me ask you a question, Sketch. Are they not respecting our sovereignty when they run all this fentanyl up there that's killing three hundred thousand people a year?   So if they're not respecting our sovereignty, why the hell should we respect theirs when that really is almost openly an act of war? Wouldn't you agree?   Well, okay. We have the CIA and it's importation of cocaine and Well, it may well, we well, it may be. It may be. They do have a history of it. We don't know specifically here.   Could be, you know, there's all kind you've got well, yeah. Maybe   that you've also got Hezbollah,   Hamas, and all those people over there. You got the whole Venezuelan   apparatus.  

So   yeah.  

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Well, I've just I was just thinking about,   Paraguay.  

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I think Paraguay doesn't do Paraguay doesn't do anything, I don't think. I've never heard them indicate anything. But it has some a gold deposited to it, or is it Uruguay that No. It it's got   I don't know that either one of those two have gold underneath them, actually.   They got they got maybe may they maybe got something better than gold. They got the world's biggest aquifer, second biggest underneath them.  

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Right.   Well, I'm just throwing that out there. I think Venezuela is kind of a beachhead. I don't think it's just about drugs. It's oil, and China's influence,  

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that they're trying to, stop. You got well, there's a lot of the the, there there there's just a lot of communist over there. The Chinese are in bed with them. You got Hamas. You got Hezbollah.   Israel's got an embassy over there. There's no telling to their involvement in it.   And it's just way too muddy to be able to differentiate with any authority, I think, Sketch.  

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I understand.   I,   speaking of the communist,   the interesting quote I read the other day that, the Democrats are for the working class,   the Republicans are for the, upper class, and the,   the ruling class are communists.  

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That's true. And  

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and, I think,   yeah, I just thought that was interesting. And, so I was just throwing that out there. I think that, there's lots in play. I yield.  

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Oh, there's a whole bunch going on. There's all kinds of under undercurrents we don't know about. And,   but, there's there's your real enemy or the the world monetary power and and them seeking communism.   Raj. And so but you know what? I think they're losing. I think they've already lost, and they're they're getting real desperate, man.   Yes, Dave.   Yeah. I I would say the real enemy is if if all these countries   are sending all these drugs   to America, who's taking delivery   of these drugs? That's who we should be going after.   I yield. Well, I mean, I think they are going after all those areas. I don't know for sure. I do know really what's happening in the big picture, Dave.  

This is revenge for the opium wars.   This is China's revenge for the opium wars.  

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Probably Jewish people. If you don't know Well, that's actually  

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a part of it. Well, that was part of the opium wars.   Do what, Dave? Yeah. I I don't doubt that for a second. I believe that,   wholeheartedly.   And it's still the same people that are running China, I believe,   that were in charge of those opium wars. Roosevelt's   family was in charge of that for a time. Delano's. And Delano's. Delano's. We're   a very big family in that. Correct?   But Right. So Where'd the opium come from, Dave?   It I think it came from I well, I don't know where where they grow them poppies. Right?   It came from India and the Sassoon family.  

Right. Right. Yep. Yep.   Yep.   I remember hearing that. They they married in with the Rothschilds. They were the agents over there for the East India Trading Company. They   they grew the opium evidently cured it, had it set up, had the ships   that would run it in,   and they   addicted   about like China's done with fentanyl for our country. They addicted to huge amounts of the population.   And so the Chinese people that were running the country   fought them. They won.   They confiscated   all the opium in the dens and in the warehouses,   and they burned it publicly.  

And the second opium war was who's gonna pay for the burned opium?   Because the British wanted to be paid in silver. The Chinese refused.   That was the second opium war.   We are the third opium war as China retaliates.  

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Rod.   Rick.  

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I think the CIA,  

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they can't get money to fund regime change legally from Congress. I think that's why they go after drug money, just to do that. Could be. Could be. But they're that some of them are dirty. I don't know what else they're doing with it. I mean, the whole thing's   if if Trump could rip them some bitches out by the roots,   boy, would he'd he'd have a great starting point right there   because they're just rotten.   So we'll see. It's a hell of an aren't you glad you're alive right now? Not only that. Aren't you glad you're alive right now to witness all these things we talk about that other people don't understand worth a crap and to have the knowledge and understanding that we do on this status thing on how they're pulling everything off.   So that's how they're pulling everything off is getting you to answer those two questions.  

How about this, Raj? If you're new,  

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the challenge is still still here. It's back when this one day was strong.  

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If you're new, you've just been listening.   But everybody on here that you've heard in these conversations today,   you'll never hear somebody come on here and say, the feds knocked down my door and stole my stuff.   You'll never hear that here.   And I know that for a fact because they won't breach that line.   K? We've seen it over and over and over again.   And, so if you're looking for freedom and a way to do this, you found the right place now. Should you not be of a sound mind that you still wanna do that, and that's your prerogative.   Just keeps hanging around. And listen, if you want freedom, if you don't wanna be free or you're too scared or,   you know, this with mama or that with daddy or whatever the hell's going on, you would rather be in a corner with your knees knocking,   then you go do that. K?  

And,   what was it? Was it Madison said let the chains rest lightly upon you and may god let us forget that you are our countrymen? But you can do that.   K?   We'll pray for you.   So, anyway, this road to freedom right here is not the road to serfdom like a a high act said. It's the road to freedom like Roger Sales said. And all these people have gone through this process   and,   the the here, and they've achieved it. And not one person has ever gotten any blowback,   from the federal government.   So, anyway, that's where we are. If you're looking for that, you stumbled in, you're scared, cat's got your tongue, Paul's cat's got your tongue or something,   then just hang around. Keep coming back. We'll we'll try and get you over the line. One toke over the line. Right? Right, Paul? One toke over the line. Grab tongues.  

I yeah. It doesn't. Okay. Well, I thought I heard that something. My cat does not grab tongue. Well, if it does grab your tongue, just have a laser pointer handy and get it on the other side of the room over there. No. She She she cares not. She  

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cares not about such things. Chris from California.  

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Hey, Chris.   Please bring us back to sanity sanity.  

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Okay. Has anybody heard of the book,   The Great Taking?  

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Yes.  

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Okay. Yeah.   That seems to be the other side of the story or the other the rest of the story   is, in order to secure our equity in in things we own,   things we've worked for,   to be able to preserve our   what it is that we've acquired, what it is that God has given us.   We have to be able to shield it or keep it   when   the system   comes into play   that takes away everything   based upon the fact that we never owned it.  

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Well, I think maybe once, once you file your paperwork, you might not have owned it previously, but I believe you probably own it after that, Chris.  

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Okay. You want it. I mean bought   when it was bought with   fictional   money Oh. When when every when ownership is,   held by the people that is,   that have allowed you to participate   in their system and acquire wealth Mhmm. Unless you learn how to fold it in a way   that, that it will be immune from that.  

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It wasn't born with fictional money. It was born with debt paper   and is classified as legal tender.   Right? So that means it can pay taxes and everything else.   So I disagree with a bit of your premise. Okay?  

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It doesn't pay anything.   What does it pay anything? Charges debt.   I know that. It's a legal tender. It's a legal tender. They can't pay anything. It's a debt note.  

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I believe anything that you purchased with it under fraud would be yours after you file the affidavit. That's all I said, Chris.   So the rest of these things are nebulous. There's not any   well, you're not gonna get any satisfaction anywhere with that argument.   K?  

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What I'm what I'm saying is, for example,   I think it would be very prudent to learn how and to execute   taking your properties off the tax roll.  

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Right. Right.   Well, if that's what you wanna do,   well, if you can do that. We don't even have evidence you can do that. I know other people that have, but Samuel's been trying for how many years? He's never been able to accomplish it.   So,   and that's what all isn't that what all our trust stuff is about, Chris?  

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Yeah. But well well, the okay. This here's here's here's an here's an example.   What if you buy something, a piece of property, say,   and you buy this piece of property   with,   with Morgan Silver dollars,   then you might have a claim to it   because you didn't purchase it with Federal Reserve notes. You didn't purchase it with debt. You purchased it with substance.  

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Okay. Well,   I think we're I think the program is already over, and you came right right in at the last with us. No. It's no. It's not. Got a little bit? Two minutes left. We're not? We got two minutes left. Okay, Chris. Yeah. What I'm talking about   today, at least, on this stuff. Anyway, well, okay. So what's   go through, pay $21   in more silver dollars and other valuable consideration or whatever whatever.   You can do that too, especially after you filed your affidavit.  

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Well,   that's what I do, and I'm just sharing that. That's what I have. Well, thank you. Yes. Very valid.  

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Nothing wrong with that.   Have, I'd have some implements around where if anybody tried to take anything away from you, you could deal with them.   We'll find out more about, what's going on this week here later in the day. We'll talk about it tomorrow if there's no students   With questions or comments, we'd sure love you if you'd open your mouth and go, hi, Roger. This is so and so and so and so, and   we love you. I can't wait to go forward, but I got this one question.   Well, okay. We'll answer it. What about this?   Do what now?  



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I was gonna say Roger. Let's do what he   you know, because I said it with that plan where you said there was a time there was a time when you could deal with it personally, deal with somebody personally.   I heard this guy   shot somebody in his house,   lost his house, lost his job, everything.  

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K. Wouldn't surprise me. That's happening to people all over the place.   Anyway, we're gonna lay our bodies down here at least, figuratively as it applies to our radio program,   but we will be back tomorrow. That's the good news if, the   folks in Ecuador are still allowing me to have Internet. So,   that's what we're looking for, Paul.   Thank you. We're willing in the creek. No rush. Thanks, everybody. That's right.   So we'll see you tomorrow.   I think we're finished now. Right? We are now.   We're finished now. Hey, Roger.   Yeah. Just as soon as we finish, somebody comes for one of our females. Yes, ma'am.  



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Okay.   Real quick to elaborate. This is Mary. Sorry I haven't been on in a while, but with my aunt Joanne's passing and everything, we've been busy.  

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Oh, I'm sorry. We didn't go about that.  

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Oh, it's okay. I mean, she lived   an amazing life.  

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Like, she really did. Be so lucky. She Yep.  

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Yep. And she did. So,   but anyhoo, to to elaborate on what Chris was saying when it comes to property, which is what I'm working on now, getting the original land patent, things like that,   he is correct on certain things. But if you learn how to operate in the private,   meaning learning trust law, you have to learn the law. You've got no choice. Read case law. Do this. Do that. To keep it from people taking it from you, there is a way to do it. Well, It's not necessarily   the SESD QB trust stuff because you're there's there's technically no money because they operate off of bonds.   Everything's a bond   because everything's commercial in nature.  

Yes. Meaning when you travel down the road, they if the police officer pulls you over, they're telling you, okay. Well, you need to we're giving you a ticket because you did two miles over the speed limit because you're operating in an automobile and not your private   vehicle, so to speak. Capacity.   Yes. It's wording and color of law   Of course. Which is a lot to learn. They don't want you to learn it. Why why do you think my book title secret.  

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Why do you think my book title is government by the treachery and deception of words?  

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Right. And then the the irrevocable   trust, to learn how to do a irrevocable trust, there is a way to operate publicly. If you choose to accept privileges and benefits from the government, that's on you. You know? You don't you know what I'm saying? That's each like, just like doing this process. It's each individual person's   free will to do so. Whether you're gonna do it or whether you're not, that's up to you. So when it comes to getting out of taxes, getting your,   a loyal title to your vehicle, which I'm working on that one too, or the salvage title. I'm sorry. I said that wrong. The salvage title to my Jeep. I'm getting that because   I found a mechanic that's gonna say it's totaled so that I'll get the salvage title, and I will legally own that car   according to their color of law.  

Uh-huh. Alright. That's good. Time you register it,   they own it. Every time you which I'm still on the fence on that one because I don't wanna get harassed, especially in local police departments.   The sheriff's departments around here that I put on notice actually were pretty   intrigued.   I'm sure   some of them think I'm full of crap, but they were very intrigued on what is this process. You know?   So it's the local police departments in town and or if you go into a city   that operate under   commercial in nature, and they're   policy enforcers   of all the statutes and codes. Hey, Roger.  



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There's Joe. I Okay. Thank you, Mary. Yeah. Joe. Hey, buddy.  

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Hey. How's it going?   No. Just just so everyone knows,   I I have to say this because Mary said a lot of stuff right there, and there's there's some corrections that need to be made. First of all, a Sysdigade trust is a beneficiary.   This has been, like, the big confusion I see people spreading all over the Internet where they think the Sysdigade trust is some kind of secret,   trust account that they have for all US citizens  

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or something like that. Oh, I agree with you, Gerald. That's for sure. 100%   for sure. I didn't mean that the Sysdig I I meant to say allegedly   Sysdiguev trust   because everything yeah. I to hold 100%   right.  

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Yeah. It's a beneficiary.   Like, if you read, like, in the different statutes in the different states, they'll tell you SESDKE trust, and they mean beneficiary   always because that's the definition of it. There's a people just misunderstood that thing, and now they run off on this thing. The Social Security account is a trust account. I mean, Doge just the early at the beginning of this year just revealed that that those Social Security accounts hold millions upon millions of dollars in it, which is which has been, like, the thing that these guys have been talking about, but it's called the widely held fixed investment   trust.  

That's the name of the Social Security account. It's it's called the widely held fixed investment trust. That's what that is. Right? It's not it's not a secret account. It's publicly known. This is why they always say there's no secret account because it's not a secret.   Everyone has one. And you have a Social Security number, you have a you have a Social Security trust. That's it's it's really that simple, but   they are utilizing that   account against the people because when you do that, when you use that thing, you're saying that you're a federal employee.   Right? And they they consider anyone a federal employee who receives survivor benefits, which is what the Social Security account, pays out to beneficiaries.  



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Anyway Were was there something else you were gonna comment on, Joe?   The one thing that, struck   the one that struck me   was that   a salvage title   equals a lodial ownership.  

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No. You have to get the MCO.  

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A a lodial is deals with land only, folks, to my knowledge. Right. Okay. Alright. Well The MCO is the full title of the car.  

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Like, so Manufacture  

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statement of origin.   That's what that stands for.  

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So a salvage title doesn't get you any closer to an MSO than a normal title.  

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It's it's basically just retitling the car. I have a form I created that gets people the MCO. It's real simple. You just fill out the form. You send it into the secretary of state.   They have to fill it up back out and send it back to you. But, typically, what they end up doing is just sending you the MCO   instead because they don't wanna answer the questions on the form.  

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You're a clever one. The devil, aren't you?  

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I try, Roger. I'm trying out of here.  

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No. No. You're accomplishing, Joe. You're not trying.  

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But, yeah, this, I call it the form 91 c I because it means car interest.   And,   if, I've gotten, I don't know, maybe   maybe eighty, ninety   MCO so far with that form. It's been working pretty well pretty well. Cool. Joe, where did you got that my form, Joe?   It's in my Telegram group, but I'll share it in mayor because,   status,   national status freedom   telegram group. I'll share it in there with everybody.  

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Okay. Can you email it? Thank you, y'all. Thank you. Because I'm not in Merca's group.  

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Oh,   I will I will email it to you.  

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Thank you, Mariamon.  

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Do I have a question for Joe? Thank you, Joe.  

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Yeah. You're welcome.   Question?  

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Question? Yeah.  

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Hey, Joe. Can you send that to me, please?  

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Dear from Paul.  

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Yeah. I will send it to Dave.  

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Thank you very much. Thank you, Joe.  

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Thank you, Joe. Go ahead, Joe.  

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Mhmm.  

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Or Yeah. Hey, Joe. Joe,   this is Wayne down at Texas.   And,   couple weeks ago, I started watching one of your videos about the difference between   legal title and equitable title and that a lot of people have that whole issue confused.   I know time is short today, but would you consider maybe coming back on and,   expounding on some of that information? Because I find it very, very insightful.  

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Yeah. There was some kind of   I don't know if it was a trick or a play that someone did on people many years ago, but they they convinced everyone that they had equitable ownership over the cars   and that the state had legal title over the car. And that's it's just flat out incorrect. It's it's exactly backwards because when I tried to   when I when I went into court and I asked the I asked the judge, I said, well, who's the legal owner of the car? He goes, well, you are. I said, then what authority does the state have, like, you know, to take the car and stuff like that if it's legally mine? And he goes, well, you know, the New Jersey statutes has certain provisions that allow the police officer to take the car under certain circumstances.   I said, well, would that mean that you're the that the state's the equitable owner?  

And he goes, you have any other questions?   He wouldn't answer it. Like, flat out just ignored the question. He just didn't wanna answer it. And I was like, that's interesting. He wouldn't answer the question.   And,   so what I did was I   I I used well, the form 91 c I, I did that form, and I did a couple other things with the certificate of the title. And sure enough, they won't stop the car anymore. I said, oh, what I did was I call it collapsing,   but Jimmy kept saying that, I'm calling it it's really supposed to be called merge merge titles. I'm gonna gotta try to use merging title, legal and equitable title. Once I merge it back together, the state no longer holds an interest to the car.   And once you do that, that's it. They leave you alone. They take it out of the system. So, you you know, like, once once you tell them that what you've done and show them   that the, it's up to the DMV commissioner to put a code on the on the car information.  

So when the cops run the the tags, it comes back saying leave that car alone,   which has been working too. So that's why I know that the what I was talking about is correct. Like, I didn't make that video until after I had this confirmed where a bunch of people were doing this thing with the title that I've been doing   and merging title together, and everyone's coming back. We're going, yeah. Cops don't pull me over. One cop pulled me over and then said, I'm really sorry about that. Have a nice day. And so it's it's very, very effective because it's it's the right remedy, because it's the right reason why   the cops are stopping people in the first place. Joe, if I may.  



[02:09:51] Unknown:

Yeah. You mentioned tags.   So you still play your your automobile?  

[02:09:57] Unknown:

Yeah. So what you do is I have people do something with their car title. I'm not gonna expand on it here, but   there's something you do with the car title. And then once you once you do all those things with it, you send it into the commissioner telling them that, you know, now that, you're leaving United States with the car and you're it's going back to America   and, that,   you know, it's no longer gonna be in a commercial capacity.   And that you're showing them that you've   you've merged   legal and equitable titles. So then now you have both and the state loses its equitable   ownership over the car.  

Right? Meaning that, because equitable ownership is basically who gets to get paid off of this thing.   Right?   Whoever gets money from this thing is the equitable owner. Whoever has all the legal liability is the legal owner. I want you to understand that it's, like, very obvious that you're the legal owner of the car if, I mean, if it's in your name.   So after we do this,   they   what what I do is I wrote a letter. I said, I'm I'm gonna keep the state plates,   but if you want me to return them, please tell me to return them and send me new plates that you want.   Or tell me to send the plates, and I'll be using these plates, and I send them a picture of the plates that I want to be using.  

And,   it's I've gotten all three results from different states. New York just lets you use the the state plates.   Another like, New Jersey sent black plates.   And in some cases, they didn't. Some, they did. Some, they didn't. And then in some other states, what they've done is they said, please send in your plates, and then you put your private plates on, but there has to be the ones you told them you're gonna be using. Right? So we've been using the DOT plates because that's that's what I've been using anyway.   And, they accept that. One guy got pulled over. He says, did you run my plates? The cop goes, no. And he was like, please please just run it so you know who you're talking to.  

Then that guy the cop came back couple minutes later, goes, I'm sorry to bother you, sir. You have a good night, and let him go. That was it. No. That's pretty good. This only works like, say, you have a car payment. You can't do this with a car because you don't own the vehicle yet. Correct?   Correct. Like, if you bought purchased one from a dealer, you gotta wait till it's paid off or however you wanna do that remedy as far as bill of exchanges or whatever you're gonna do. Well, they're not gonna take a bill of exchange, but you just sue them in court because they already violated consumer credit laws. The second they violated consumer credit law, just sue them, and then   they're gonna wanna settle out of court. They're gonna say, what do you want? So you just give me the certificate of title, and let's call it let's call it even, and they'll just send you the title.  



[02:12:29] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:12:31] Unknown:

Yeah. That's more of a need to do. Yep. Mhmm. Are you  

[02:12:38] Unknown:

Joe, just a follow-up. I want I want to find out,   if this principle just applies to items like vehicles or,   as you know, with, like, investment accounts and all that, would you give, like, an investment company your fund for $4.00 1 k or whatever? You're considered just a beneficial owner, and I think they're the legal owner, as far as I can tell. Have you looked in any of that, or is that still down the road for you? Yeah. So what I did was,  

[02:13:05] Unknown:

I don't have a four zero one k,   but there's a couple of people that, I've been helping that do. And what we've done is set up foreign trusts   to be the beneficiary of the four zero one k instead.   And because they're foreign, they're not considered,   they're not taxable under the the   the title 26.   So so when the when they make payments out, it goes to that trust, and that trust is technically overseas.   And because it's it's   technically overseas, it doesn't have to pay any any tax on it.  

[02:13:38] Unknown:

Yeah. I see. But what about ownership as far as the fellow earlier mentioned the great taking and that a lot of these funds are kind of pulled, together to, offset that derivatives and stuff like that. So in a case like that, how can you make sure you still maintain ownership? I mean, I I can see the value of cashing out and doing something alternative. But for people considering some of this stuff, I just wanna make sure they're protected or they know the the ups and downs of what this whole scenario could could bring to them.  

[02:14:08] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, that's   there's a lot of variables in that question depending on what people want, how far they're away from getting, you know,   as much as they want from that thing. You know? So there's a lot of variables involved in that. It's kinda hard to give just a flat answer to it. Yeah. I just think that any any value you get is not worth the risk of having your funds,  

[02:14:29] Unknown:

in effect stolen from you because from what I'm understanding,   these   companies can commit fraud or whatever to and lie to you straight to your face about what the funds are going and   and they can get away with it based on the way the laws are written now.  

[02:14:43] Unknown:

Well, I mean and that see, I've been doing this with court cases lately is like,   like, I'm helping a friend with he's getting sued by,   General Motors. No. In GE. Yeah.   Right?   Yeah. General Motors is, suing him over a truck payment.   And, what what I did was I I pull I got all their,   asset backed security   pooling agreements,   all their CUSIP numbers, and I and we put into the, court case as a motion for discovery   asking   which account which CUSIP is this account in?   And,   you know, they have to what they basically have to do is show show   all the QSIP, all the all the, assets on all the QSIPs,   and then we're gonna go look through it and see how many different QSIPs his same account is in. If it's in more than one, then we just then they're guilty of fraud, and that's it. If they refuse to to hand over that discovery,   then, then we can we can dismiss the case because they're they're not being transparent in in their contract with them.  

You know? Because as a if they do an asset backed security,   right, with his account,   right, like, for his car,   it can only be in one CUSIP.   And, typically, they put it in more than one because they'll resell it over and over again. They they're not supposed to do that, but these guys do that because what they're what they do is they create bonds off of those those pulled, service agreements.   Right? Those those pooled car notes become like, they back bonds with those things, sell that to investors in the company.   Right? And then they they get insurance payments off of that stuff or interest payments off of that. So   if if they're doing that, that means they're creating fraudulent bonds, and they can get in in in serious trouble.  

So by doing that,   even if it's not his account, just the fact that they're doing it is gonna get him in trouble, and that's enough to get them to wanna drop the case in the first place.   So all we do is push push them to give us that information. It's public information anyway. You know? Because I pulled it right off the Security Exchange Commission website   and just stuck it into this discovery motion.   And they were like they all of a sudden, they're dead silent. They don't wanna talk anymore. They're,   they're trying to figure out how to get around this, motion for discovery.  



[02:17:04] Unknown:

Quick comment   on the great taking.   There is,   you can move to a state that has amended the UCC,   article eight   in their legislation.   There's a few, I think Tennessee   and, I'm not sure about South Dakota, but I know I think Tennessee has passed   getting the exemption out or putting the exemption in   in in in case of bankruptcy   that you're actually first in line as a property owner. And I did put a   a link in the chat for a tip sheet on on the article eight UCC,   I yield.  

[02:17:44] Unknown:

Okay.   Well, you know,   a part of this is when you go get a mortgage,   okay, if the previous homeowner   still was making payments on that house,   right, you actually have a right of subrogation   because you since you paid off the rest of his loan,   where you can actually subrogate the rest of that payment, meaning it should be it should come off of your mortgage.   Right?   You know? But the   the title company never tells you that. The bank will definitely never tell you that. But that's your that's your right as paying off his debt from getting the loan.   Your right is to subrogate whatever,   you paid off of his loan to have it deducted from your loan because you satisfied his end of the loan to that to that amount.  

So if you got like, let's say you got a house for $400,   and the homeowner that had it previously still owed a 130,000   on it, and you paid off that 130,000   from your $400,000   loan,   well, technically, you only owe,   like, $2.70.   If you if you subrogate it, you would only owe 270,000.  

[02:18:56] Unknown:

Quick question for mister Lesica. If you had an if if you had a nice coin collection and you wanted to, say, get it out of the country,  

[02:19:04] Unknown:

any ideas?  

[02:19:07] Unknown:

I mean,   UPS or FedEx. I don't know. But where are you trying to send it?  

[02:19:15] Unknown:

To myself myself.  

[02:19:17] Unknown:

They they probably won't do it with UPS.   I don't know about up there necessarily down here. They won't even send it insured   over planes with planes and stuff.   But, you Brinks   and the, there's another company out of Dallas, I believe, that's second, who are   ways they move coins, but you, of course, have to declare what's going on. Yes. Here's the comment. I think it's Sketch.  

[02:19:44] Unknown:

I think it might be Loomis you're talking about.  

[02:19:48] Unknown:

Could be. Could be.   Yep.  

[02:19:51] Unknown:

Joe? I'll check-in here.  

[02:19:54] Unknown:

Yeah. I was just gonna ask Joe a question too.  

[02:19:58] Unknown:

If you got a question if you got a   a relationship where you could call one of the Bitcoin dealers   and ask them how they do that.   Alright. Thanks. It's not gonna be it's not gonna be private.   K?   Now, yes, you say move it out of the country. Are you planning to leave the country too?  

[02:20:20] Unknown:

Correct.  

[02:20:22] Unknown:

K. Well, there's another way   that seems to be very, very solid,   which is the state Texas State Metals Depository. Are you familiar with them?  

[02:20:34] Unknown:

Correct.  

[02:20:35] Unknown:

Okay. Well, that's just another option if you didn't know about them. Good luck.  

[02:20:41] Unknown:

Thanks.  

[02:20:45] Unknown:

Yes. Joe?  

[02:20:47] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:20:49] Unknown:

Yes.   I'm sorry. I don't know too much about that trust you were talking about, the SUSCO  

[02:20:54] Unknown:

whatever it's called. It's it's not a trust. It's a beneficiary of a trust. Please don't bring me that, Robbie. My god.  

[02:21:02] Unknown:

No. My my my my only question is that I've over time, I've heard about a lot of people,   saying they could get, you know, millions of dollars from that that we each have one. Could you just tell us briefly and settle that once and for all? Or I I'm not sure what?  

[02:21:19] Unknown:

Well,  

[02:21:21] Unknown:

you know, there's just a lot of tall tales about it. I've I've never seen it.   I don't know if that's really true. Okay. I mean, I I think those accounts are really used for, you know,   like, money funneling,   you know, like, they're doing, like, you know, money laundering and,   doing some irregular   financial   contracts,   you know, with them. And   I don't I don't really think it's all for because they they're supposed to take the money that you put into it every week and invest in treasury bonds. And then,   when the treasury bonds mature, it goes into the account as as extra money. That way,   when you retire, you can actually get paid off of it. It's not just, like, just straight whatever you put in there and it just sits there. Because of the because of, inflation and stuff like that, it would screw it up. So that's why they use these special treasury bonds that have, like, a, like, a market rate of interest paid on   it. But I think they   my understanding, though, is that from what I read in the POMS manual, which is the Social Security's administration's   manual,   they consider promissory notes and mortgages   liquid inside of the Social Security account. So if you were to deposit that into the Social Security account, it would be considered   liquid assets.  

Like, just just the same as cash.   So I do think that they are using those things in order to withdraw money from when you sign, like, the promissory note and the mortgage.   I think those things are deposited into your Social Security account, and then they get the cash for it through the Social Security. No  

[02:23:05] Unknown:

earthly   telling   the scams they've got running here today.  

[02:23:11] Unknown:

Yeah.   Like I said, they got slimiest  

[02:23:15] Unknown:

the slimiest   financial critters that have ever crawled on the Earth, and that's them, and they got total control of the world money supply. Go ahead, Joe. Sorry to interrupt. I'm not gonna be around for you. Joe. In a little bit.  

[02:23:28] Unknown:

No. You're no. You're fine. No. It's I and I'm saying, I don't know if they're really doing that, but the POMS manual makes it clear that they consider that   a valid thing.   So  

[02:23:41] Unknown:

I don't know. But I think they are. Because my I have a friend here that lives in Aldina, Illinois. She has five children,   and they lost their house. They're auctioning it off on they   they they they took their house.   Who did for what? All that, Mary. The who took the court? Bank because they were behind on payments. So the bank took them to court. They didn't know how to they didn't know what to do or how to do it. Plus, they're a young couple.   Had no idea. But, yeah, they're out on the streets now. They took their house because   they were up to you behind on payment.  



[02:24:17] Unknown:

Illinois is not a nonjudicial   foreclosure state,   evidently.   New Which means they don't have to go through all. No. Because Okay. You know what that is for the audience? Auctioned off.   Well, there's about well, that that that could be. Okay? E either way.   But there's about half the states, maybe more by now, that have passed legislation that says they don't have to go through all that. Go to court, charge you, wait and get a, you know, a judgment.   Come take it.   They can they advertise it   three days in the public journal, three weeks.   And the fourth week, they auctioned it on the courthouse steps.  

Georgia was one of those states.   I it I from what you said, it doesn't sound like Illinois is, but they may be. Yes, Paul.  

[02:25:06] Unknown:

You know, what they what they need to do is they need to find out if there's a reclamation period,   for the state of Illinois.   Because if there's a reclamation   period,   it'll tell you in the description   whether it's a judicial or nonjudicial   foreclosure state.   And if it's a judicial foreclosure   state,   then they have,   so many months   or so much period of time following the sheriff's sale to be able to reclaim the property. Yeah. They don't Remedy the situation.   But if they leave, they've abandoned the property, and they lose it immediately.  

[02:25:51] Unknown:

Okay. That's They already lost.  

[02:25:53] Unknown:

Okay. They already lost it. Well, we're sorry for them. They said they lost million. Me me too. But, like, in two, they wouldn't like, their mortgage was sold to different companies   that they did not contract with   Yep. Like, 10 times.  

[02:26:08] Unknown:

Yeah. It's in the scam. That's the scam.  

[02:26:11] Unknown:

That's that's part of the scam. Right? And they What did you read there? And they're young.   Oh. And now they're  

[02:26:17] Unknown:

Got it. Okay, Mary. Let let Joe talk.  

[02:26:20] Unknown:

Oh, gotta read the contract because in the contract, it tells you that they can sell the note over and over again to different companies and that the new company would be considered the creditor and that whoever takes over the note is who who you're gonna be paying after that. It says it in those mortgages. So they've agreed to those terms already. Yes. They they cover their asses on everything on this.  

[02:26:43] Unknown:

Yep. And, again, being young their original contract. Well, I'm sure they didn't. And if they read it, they probably didn't understand it. K? Not not any incorrect.  

[02:26:52] Unknown:

When when you when you said they already lost it, did the sheriff show up at the door   with a sidearm and say get the hell out?  

[02:27:02] Unknown:

Pretty much.  

[02:27:04] Unknown:

No. Not pretty much. Did did a did a sheriff show up and remove them?  

[02:27:11] Unknown:

Yes. October 19.  

[02:27:13] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:27:14] Unknown:

K.   Too bad.  

[02:27:16] Unknown:

Lee County sheriff.  

[02:27:18] Unknown:

Yeah.   Boing. And then the I'm gonna boing out of here.   Okay. Well, we're so sorry for them. It happens every day. Unfortunately, people get screwed by this system. That's why we're here to try and get enough information out whether, a, don't get screwed or we may can change it.   And we're always happy to have our friend Joe on, one of our,   good students that glommed along through a   gal that we mutually know named Kaye   who also   lost her hand house out in California. Her and her husband, Phil, about fifteen years ago, I guess, maybe more. Anyway, she was one of the early listeners to the program. She's got a grand child that   that wanted to learn how to play guitar, and they called Joe.  

And that's how we met Joe. So thank Kaye.   Joe, always a pleasure to have you, buddy. You're doing great work. And,   work I could   you're doing superb work, and, I referred an email to you.   I was trying to just find out about suing,   outside of, delegated responsibilities. Get you better to go to Fed or state court. And I said, man, I each one. I don't know. I I steered him to you. Okay? So federal court courts.   Do you do you let Joe talk, please, Joe? What were you gonna say? What no. I just said federal court would be that'd be the place to sue the best one. Okay. Well, if I forget what his guy name is anyway. If he comes to you, tell him that.   I'll see y'all tomorrow, Joe. Thanks, buddy. Okay?  

And, love all of you. I gotta go chase some food. Love you too, Roger. Alright. Ciao ciao, man. Roger.  

[02:29:02] Unknown:

Alright. You're welcome, Mary. Hey, Joe. Hey, Roger.  

[02:29:05] Unknown:

See you tomorrow, everybody. Love you. Bye.  

[02:29:08] Unknown:

Bye. Hey, Joe. This is Greg. Roger. Question for Joe.  

[02:29:13] Unknown:

After the end, man. First question.  

[02:29:17] Unknown:

Okay. Okay. Well, Joe, you got a hard goal.   You are just, I mean, off the charts, man. Thanks for being with us.  

[02:29:27] Unknown:

No. Thank you, Bruce. I appreciate that.  

[02:29:32] Unknown:

Joe, I had a question. George, Idaho.   I was watched with interest to your video.   It might have been some time ago. I've been trying a variety of these different,   different,   techniques or,   principles, I guess, to   do kinda the same thing. I was wondering if you had a report on any   of your coupons,   bonds that you sent in.   I forget the date of the video. I apologize. I mean  

[02:30:02] Unknown:

Yeah. The   the coupons   work on debt collectors and hospital bills. But don't do it on credit cards.   Don't do it on utilities   because they'll they'll turn off your power, and they'll shut off your credit card. So   Okay. Debt collectors that's you know, they once they see that, they know that they're not gonna get anything else, so they just take it. And the hospitals,   they actually do   they use those for security backed, assets as well,   like asset backed securities. They have a whole pooling servicing agreement as well, just like the way all these other companies do. So they're they're trading securities on the market as well.   So they'll they'll take the coupons.  



[02:30:47] Unknown:

Okay. And and, you know, it's interesting because what you just said about, you know and and we have, like,   stories about how the Fed wires, like, at the closing   after the closing, the Fed will wire the money to the banks.   In a sense, it's all part of that system,   that quasi governmental system.   Would   being that the hospitals are like that too, it sounds like,   wouldn't   based on, you know, some of what we've seen   or we've theorized,   wouldn't they have the responsibility   then to,   you know, if they're if that Social Security number trust is created based on the live birth   and   the the force majeure,   wouldn't there be a way to,   like, approach treasury   to call them call spade a spade and say,   you know, based on this fraud,   you know, take care of this. However you take care of in the background, not following UCC forms, not, you know,   writing anything on the coupon, just sending it into treasury   and, you know, whether it's foreign assets or just the treasury itself,   we'll take care of this because it   you know, whatever you need to do in the background accounting wise or whatever, I don't know if they would say, we'll sign this nondisclosure or whatever.  

But it would seem to me that they wouldn't want those cases, you know, to become precedent out there   and that they would just take care of individual nationals. Like, I sent my national,   affidavit in with a you know, I'd sent it registered so I'd have it,   so it'd be ledger that the, the actual   case, if you will, under the post office.   And I'm seeing what they're doing, but I've I've I'm just kinda theorizing or work working this through verbally, like, picking this,   kind of inside outside the box. A national cannot,   you know, cannot be suborned to perjury by operating within this system, within this monetary system. And I don't know if you've kinda given any   any mind space to that.  



[02:32:55] Unknown:

I found something a couple weeks ago because I have I have a trust community, and we have meetings. We actually have meetings every Monday morning   at 10:00.   And, we did a meeting   a couple of Fridays ago. There was a guy who had a little pickle. He was in a little pickle, so we're trying to sort out his court case, and I figured we could have other people go over this information as well. And then after we did all that, we started going through we were looking for something,   and I found something in one of the codes somewhere where it talked about   depositing mortgages with the treasury.  

But it wasn't it didn't say the treasury. It was the managing,   the managing,   secretary   of the trust account, which is which is the same it's the secretary of the treasury.   And I was like, hey. This is really interesting.   So I was reading through that,   and I I forgot the code, but it I mean, I have the video recorded. I'll go back and watch it. Actually, I have it right here. Let me let me pull it up real quick. See if I can find that.   Okay. The managing trustee is directed to pay from time to time   from the trust funds into the treasury.   The amount estimated by him as taxes imposed onto this section. Okay.  

So there's   yeah. I have to I have to look through this, but there's something about it in here.   So there's there is something on that. Like, you can do something with that, but I haven't figured it out yet. And I don't know anyone that has   provided anything of substance that   also   shows that.  

[02:34:40] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Yeah. Because I took I took go ahead.  

[02:34:44] Unknown:

I do believe that there is something on that.   I really do.  

[02:34:50] Unknown:

Is it there was a Jersey guy called   Al Coombs, I think. He was called the informer.   And,   he's the   one   he's the one who shut down that town because he was back backed into a   a parking   parking space, and they gave him a ticket, but they didn't have the road. Or is that you? He didn't have the road complete in the back, so they he's basically gonna take his town in Jersey down. I forget which town it was. But   to  

[02:35:23] Unknown:

Well, what happened to me I mean, that sounds it sounds like   a little bit of something that happened with me, sort of.  

[02:35:33] Unknown:

Yeah. He his was like this guy, there's only he's dead now, but he was a corporate researcher for, like, forty years.   And then he,   he got into, like,   researching the law and everything. And it was kinda based on he was only in his twenties, I think, when this happened in Jersey where the, you know,   the cop gave him a ticket for backing into a space.  

[02:35:55] Unknown:

What was his name? They have that law.  

[02:35:57] Unknown:

His name is Al Coombs. He's called the Informer. If you go to archives,   Informer archives,   they have recordings of him.   But what I've been doing is I've been writing to the so he he actually had his,   13 pages of his master file basically deleted   when he wrote to, believe it or not, the Holy See and the attorney general of United Kingdom.   Because based on, you know, US history,   the arch treasurer of the Vatican of the of the Holy Roman Empire was George the third who signed the Paris agreement, you know. So he goes into all that research, financial research as well.   And of course, that debt was never paid, right, that debt from the war.  

So George Washington set up, you know, United States or whatever as   some say as a company to pay back that debt. Right?   But   all this kinda ties into what we're talking about. What what his testimony on is and you could hear his voice on this. He   wrote them. He got a call from the attorney general of The United Kingdom   asking what can I do for you? He thought it was a joke. Anyway, DOJ had taken to court, and this was on tax matters.   And   he told him about it. Then they they said,   don't, you know, don't worry about that. You don't have to worry about that. If they contact you again, it's an error.   They went and checked his master file again. The 13 pages were gone. They were just deleted.  

So I've been writing to, like, the vicar of my diocese, and I wrote to the holy seed known seal in Washington.   And I've copied treasury because I was if there's still a Vatican, like, still a Holy Roman Empire, still all that stuff kinda just in the background, and they put on a new front called The United States or a new front called, you know,   I don't know, you know, nations in Europe or whatever. But all in the background, the banking's still controlled by the same people. Right? You know, they could put a new they could put McDonald's can change its name or its logo, but it's still   some kind of financial thing still goes back to that original McDonald's owners. And so   my thinking is taking a page from his book is appealing to these people, like and then taken from Boris and some of those testimonies,   you know, using the Lord's Prayer, you know, forgive us our debt.  

And,   you know, the living man is being oppressed by these usurious systems. I don't care   if they've got a UCC on it or all these other things. In the end of the day, how do you turn over the tables   of the, you know, at the at the temple?   You do it the old fashioned way by appealing to them or   telling them this is the way God's law works, you know, and that's the ultimate jurisdiction.   All these others are just sub jurisdictions to operate commercially and everything. So I don't know what what the end of it is, but I just wanted to put it out there that   there's gotta be a higher law. You know? It's a higher love. Isn't that a song?  

That we can appeal to in these   in these way we write these people. And, you know, even like the passport itself used to be letters credence, right, where you would be just a man of good character. He didn't have eye color. He didn't have a height. He didn't have all this materialistic   descriptions. He was a man of good character. He's a,   you know, not a personage. He was a a living man. You know? Anyway, that's kind of the principle I've been approaching it as. And I just didn't know if that would be helpful in any other ways that we're we're doing this thing. Because people adds George. Out of their house. You know?  

[02:39:33] Unknown:

May I add somebody? Too. Go ahead. Sure.  

[02:39:37] Unknown:

Yes.   We used to have a host on RBN called Eric,   the freedom screamer. He has a website   called courtroomwatch.org.   That's courtroomwatch.org.   Now I don't know if this is true   because I haven't been involved in any cases, but what he used to tell us   is that the court system is in fact run by the Vatican.   And he said that the highest person in the court is your local,   I believe it was cardinal,   and that he used to have a lot of good,   effect   helping people with their cases   by contacting that local cardinal.   Again,   I can't vouch for it personally,   but this is what we were taught.  

His website is courtroom watch. His name is Eric.   He is still working in New York, helping a lot of people all over the country.   I haven't listened to him in a long time, but,   I've never been able to find any of that information   to, you know,   confirm it. But I'd I'd like to hear any feedback if anyone has any response. Thank you.  

[02:40:59] Unknown:

Hey, George.  

[02:41:02] Unknown:

Here. Here. Thank you.  

[02:41:03] Unknown:

Hey.   You what was the name of that person? Because I wanted to look it up. Was it a a book or a person that you were listening to?  

[02:41:13] Unknown:

Are you talking to me? Yeah. I think  

[02:41:15] Unknown:

To Jordan. No. I think yeah. I think it was,   how actually,   Roger knows about him. He because he was involved in the Vegas tax case, I believe, as well where they sent a bunch of guys,   patriots to defend this guy and and as witnesses.   But,   this was,   Rogers thinks his name was Al Coombs, but he went by the informer.   And he has the informer archives   out there. If you I think if you   if you Yandex or duck or,   Google the informer archives,   you can go into the archive.   Sorry?  

[02:41:53] Unknown:

Okay. And what was his name? Do you remember?  

[02:41:58] Unknown:

Roger thought it was Al Coombs, but I don't know for sure.  

[02:42:01] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:42:02] Unknown:

And, what what you're mentioning thank you, Scott.   What you're mentioning is,   what what we have right now is District of Columbia who is foreign to the American people,   and they are connected   to Britain.   And that's who's controlling everything.   So,   United States is a municipal tool of District of Columbia, and   this is what we need to picture is that we are not   in their system. They're everything they're doing is to control the people.   And people   not knowing that they're they're   participating with the United States corporation,   they're, you know, they have no idea what to do, until, you know, they start learning what we're learning here   about being private and unnational.  

So I appreciate you sharing that because that completely brings things together,   and it's, you know, what we should understand   and how to handle it. And the the the main thing is we are under natural law. How we speak and how we   document and what we say to them, we need to speak with authority   and let them know. You know? You have no no long no more authority over what we're doing. You're not parenting me. You're not assisting me. I don't you know, I'm not gonna participate   with, you know, your assistance. I don't need it.   I'm gonna   control you know, take over my   private life and my private property, and that includes children,   you know, biological property,   but I say family.  

And just like they came you know, they're trying to control, you know, my pets also.   So, you know, you just need to know how to how to deal with them and how to carry yourself. And that's carrying yourself in the private,   not let asking them questions,   not having them,   you know, asking, you know, asking them how how do I do this? You know, you have to figure out yourself and understand how to present it to them and have them back off.   And if they trespass on you   if they trespass on you, you hold them liable. You hold their feet to the fire just like what Joe is talking about, you know, and and a lot of other people, you know, a few of us do is, like, okay. You know, understand the codes and are you a resident? No. You're not a resident. You're not a US citizen. You're no longer subject   that that special class   citizen that Congress created,   under the United States corporation.  

So I hope that that helps, but I do appreciate you sharing that, George. I'm gonna look into it.  

[02:44:48] Unknown:

Hello. This is Chris from California.   Is Joe Lustica still on? Are you are you here, Joe Lustica? Are you here, Joe?  

[02:44:57] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm here.  

[02:44:59] Unknown:

Oh, great. Great. Great. Yeah. I've I've communicated with you a few times,   by by email.   And, I'm interested, I'm interested in joining your, your trust group. Do you the your Zoom group.  

[02:45:14] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:45:16] Unknown:

How would I do that?  

[02:45:18] Unknown:

Oh,   the, it's   it's,   well, are you on a phone or a computer?  

[02:45:25] Unknown:

I'm on a phone right now, but I have a computer available.   Alright.   I've been on other I've been on other Zoom meetings with other situations.  

[02:45:34] Unknown:

Alright. Here. I'm gonna I'm gonna type it in here, and then I'm gonna read it to you, though.   It's breedivine.com   because it's it's this other woman, she has the website, and I just I'm the teacher.   But,   it's b r   e e   d I   v I   n e dot com.  

[02:45:57] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:45:58] Unknown:

Alright. And then that's that's the that's the trust community.  

[02:46:02] Unknown:

Okay. Great. Yeah. I heard about that. Okay. I wondered if I should go through her or go to you. But so okay. I'll do that. I'll contact her.   That's the trust community. Okay.  

[02:46:15] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. When you look it up, it'll say it says, she's the founder of the free agent community, and then   the then there's one that says trust community. And that's when you click on that, and then it has   different   things. But the trust community is the trust community.  

[02:46:33] Unknown:

Yeah. I've watched a lot of your videos. I really enjoy, your presentations.   And, you are involved in areas of law that,   I've I've not I've not been involved in that much.   I do other things,   primarily with land rights,   to help people, you know, protect their land rights,   from, these agencies   very successfully   in administrative   law countermeasures.   But,   but there's,   things that I need to learn, that you know. That's for sure.   And so I appreciate you.  

[02:47:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Were you the guy that was talking about getting the, the house,   out off the property tax rolls?  

[02:47:18] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:47:19] Unknown:

Okay. So and you're in California? You're in California?  

[02:47:23] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:47:24] Unknown:

So what I do this is how I get people's,   property off the tax rolls.   I go to the state constitution,   and I've heard a lot of chatter about you gotta use the old one, stuff like that. The the state won't recognize the old one. They're gonna recognize it as the one that's,   the newest one because that's the one that's been you know? So you could play those games. It's not gonna fly. You know? You're gonna run into more headaches that way. Just use the current one to the my idea is the path of least resistance,   and the path of least resistance is using the modern state constitute. Like, New Jersey's was last made in 1947.  

It's the it's its third one,   and it's it's probably the worst one. But that's the one I work with. And it's been very effective in helping me, you know, sort out some of these, like,   unjust,   judges or   officers, hearing officers.   But in California,   we're gonna look up the I'm gonna pull it up right now, California constitution.   And I just used the constitution   to the state constitution to find the property tax exemptions, and then we just use one of those.   It's it's really, really simple.   They they have, let's see, taxation.   Is this   all property is taxable   and shall be assessed at the same percentage of fair market value.  

When a value standard other than fair market value is prescribed by this constitution or by statute authorized by this constitution, the same percentage shall be applied to determine the the assessed value.   Okay. Now that's they're saying so they can they can tax all property   under the cons under constitutional   powers.   Okay? But the following are exempt from property taxation.   Property owned by the state,   property owned by a local government, except as otherwise provided in section 11 a,   Bonds   issued by the state or local government in the state. So that's really nice. You could go buy, like, municipal bonds or state bonds, and they're not taxable.   So you can actually use that to create some passive income for yourself.  

Okay? Property used for libraries, museums that are free and open to the public,   and property used exclusively   for the public schools, community colleges, state colleges, state universities.   Buildings, lands, equipment, securities used exclusively   for educational purposes   by a nonprofit   institution   of higher education,   buildings, land on which they are situated, and equipment used exclusively for religious worship,   property used or held exclusively for the permanent deposit of human dead or the care of maintenance of the property   or the dead   as except when used or held for profit. This property is also exempt from special assessment.  

Growing crops.   Okay? So if you're growing crops, then your property is exempt from taxation   in California.   Fruit and nut trees until after four years after the season in which they were planted.   So you got four years from when you plant them to have it. So every four years, just keep planting new   fruit and nut trees.   Okay?   It's like it's a joke. Immature forest trees planted on lands not previously bearing   merchant bolt timber,   $7,000   of the full value of a dwelling as defined when occupied   by an owner as its principal residence unless the dwelling is receiving another property,   real property exemption.  

Okay. So that's that's part of, like, a,   some other thing.   And then vessels of more than 50 tons burden in the state   and engaged in the transportation of freighter passengers,   sell vessels more than   50 tons. Holy jeez. Household furnishing and personal effects not held or used in connection with trade professional business.   Household furnishings,   that's not, used in trade.   Debt secured by land, property in the amount of a thousand dollars of a claimant who is serving has served in military.   Time of war, time of peace.   Right? A resident in the state on a current lien date,   an unmarried person who owns property valued at 5,000 or more or a married person who, together with the spouse, owns a property,   10,000 words, ineligible   for this exemption. Okay.  

Fine.   Yeah. Yeah. Alright. But you got enough here. There's enough ammunition right in there to get an exemption. You know? If someone passes away, you could bury them in your yard and have a memorial there for them. You're not selling tickets to it, so it's it's you're not it's not for, you know, you're not paying   you know, no one's paying you for it, so   the the property is exempt.   Right?   Religious worship, educational per that's what I do. I use educational purposes by a nonprofit institution because they have the same thing in New Jersey.   So I use that. I have a music school   but then I put the house into the music school, and now I don't have to pay property taxes.  



[02:52:35] Unknown:

Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah.  

[02:52:37] Unknown:

Yeah. We're doing a, an organic farm on 10 acres.   So I I was in that one. But yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get it.   Yeah. That gives gives you a exemption from taxes, but that's still not really a load yield title, is it?  

[02:52:53] Unknown:

No.   But what if you get one of these property   exemptions,   you could do the load yield title, but the the thing is that you already don't have the burden of paying the property tax.   Right? If you're growing crops on there, you're already exempt because you're growing crops.   But then getting the load of your title would be a lot easier to do because you're not gonna get as much backlash because you're already not paying property taxes.  

[02:53:19] Unknown:

Right. That sounds reasonable.   Right.  

[02:53:23] Unknown:

And Joe?   Joe? Yeah.  

[02:53:26] Unknown:

The other thing the other thing I'm very interested in is, stopping or terminating,   lawsuits.  

[02:53:34] Unknown:

Depends on the lawsuit.   I mean, that's that's a whole world of variety. You're talking about a Rubik's cube. You know?   Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:53:46] Unknown:

How do you deal with state income taxes as a national?  

[02:53:51] Unknown:

I I haven't paid it. I know some states, they make you pay it pay it, and some states don't. Like in New Jersey, I've I've never had an issue.   New York state seems to give people a problem, but we just send them a coupon.   It's like okay. So I had a guy in Montana who   the state said he owed him, like, $5,000.   And I wrote a letter. I said, well, you know, I'm not a US citizen, and I'm not a resident.   And, under the Buck Act, the state only has the authority to tax in federal land. So can you provide any   any proof that I was on federal territory when this alleged tax,   you know, obligation occurred occurred, and that he never heard back from them.  



[02:54:39] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:54:48] Unknown:

You said thank you. Oh, okay. It sound like a robot. Robot.  

[02:54:53] Unknown:

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Joe.  

[02:54:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:54:57] Unknown:

Hey. This is Larry.   You said earlier that,   a coupon will will only work for debt collectors. Why is that? It it won't work for the banks, only the debt collectors. Is that because the banks banks   already got paid through the insurance policy when when someone defaults on a credit card, like, a credit card credit card?   It's not really a loan, but, like like, say you don't pay your credit card,   balance   and you go into default default and the banks the bank may sue you, it may not sue you, but they eventually write it off.   Is that because they got paid through an insurance policy? And so then they pass that debt off   to a debt collector. And then and so   writing out a coupon would work for them. Is that what you're saying? What it is. I don't see what it is. Really  

[02:55:50] Unknown:

unable to forgive me.   This this person Someone   someone's unmuted and doesn't realize that on the cross for you for you. Two thousand years. It.   And rose to the dead Carol. Your day to give you  

[02:56:05] Unknown:

Done. Okay.  

[02:56:09] Unknown:

So   the what I think is happening is   that when when the company like, you're you're you let's say you have a credit card,   and the the company sent you that   that bill at the end of the month with the little coupon on it.   I what I think that really is is actually your dividend payment payment.   Okay? Just like with all those, like, railroad bonds with the low coupons, it's like the same thing as that.   And you're supposed to actually get that's supposed to be your money that you get paid because you're an investor with the company.   And when people do, you know, they know that people don't really understand, so they just fill it out, send it back to them, and then they they go and stamp it and go redeem it and then take your payment as well. So they're getting paid two times on it. Like, you're waiving your your your claim to it claim to it. Right?  

So that's why I really think think those thing is because when I've when I've researched, like, my utility bill, I found how,   PSE and G was selling that through a CUSIP.   I found the CUSIP and everything on Fidelity, on the Security Exchange Commission.   I'm like, wow. Look at this. This thing is actually,   creating bonds for their company.   Look at that. I'm I'm making these guys money.   Not interesting?   So   but what what I think they're doing is that they don't want   they don't want to show that they're accepting that. Right? They I think their thing is that they,   they wanna keep the status quo going as is. The debt collectors, however,   are not in the business of buying and trading securities   directly. They have, like, a parent company that does it for them for them.  

But when you send it to them,   they kinda go, well, this they don't have, like,   they don't actually have standing to collect a debt against you, so they just take that as a payment. They're like, fine. We'll just take that as a payment and be done with them. And the hospitals kinda do the same thing because the hospitals do a couple of things. One,   they'll do the,   they'll take the coupon because they can go turn it in and redeem it through this,   through their,   pooling agreements.   But, also,   they can say that it's a bad debt and write it off and then get a grant   to cover   the the the quote, unquote loss.  

Right? Because hospitals get grants   all year long.   And I don't think people realize how much money is donated to hospitals every year.   And then there's, like, federal grants that they're given as well. So these hospitals get tremendous amount of money amount of money, you know, from all different from all of these different corners, like, you know, from the investors buying stock and bonds from them, from the federal government giving them grants,   obviously, the the people paying them on top of that, then other people donating to the hospital.   So they they have lots of avenues for making money. Plus, of course, you know, they hike up the cost of everything there. You know, like a bottle of saline or like a package of saline, which costs, like, 15¢.  

They they charge you, like, $50 for it.  

[02:59:20] Unknown:

Yeah. One more thing.  

[02:59:23] Unknown:

Do you   do you turn a coupon into a money order   and just send the coupon, or do you send the whole statement page?  

[02:59:34] Unknown:

I with the debt collectors, I was just cutting the coupon off, turning into a check, and mailing it back to to them, and they were taking it. I wasn't having issues with them doing that doing that. I have done it the other way, and that seems to be fine as well. I don't I I think it works either way either way as long as you as long as you   just give it back to them and telling them that this payment in full.   But like I said, so only What do you what do  

[03:00:04] Unknown:

you think they do with that? Like, do they do they turn that into the treasury   to get that   amount of money money on that coupon coupon? Yeah. Yeah. Because,  

[03:00:17] Unknown:

if you owe something, if you owe money, that would be in a negative amount. Right?  

[03:00:24] Unknown:

Absolutely.  

[03:00:26] Unknown:

But those those bills come to you in a positive value.  

[03:00:32] Unknown:

They sure do.  

[03:00:35] Unknown:

So that means that's that's that's positive value on those things,   making them credits, not they're not debits. They're credits.   Debit is a negative negative. If you go look at your bank statements,   every time you debited something, it shows a negative amount negative amount. Every time you credited the account, it shows up as a positive.   So when they send you that billing statement, it shows up as a positive number, which is a  

[03:01:07] Unknown:

credit.  

[03:01:16] Unknown:

If I may. Yeah. Yeah.   Hi, Joe?  

[03:01:22] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:01:23] Unknown:

So I invited a few people on, and I really appreciate the fact that you covered several different topics. And,   especially   in regards to the topic where,   some people retire   and they're feeling the squeeze and they're losing,   you know, everything they ever worked for. So those are a couple people that I invited onto the call. I don't know if they're still on or if they attended today. They were going to. So,   your YouTube channel or Rumble channel I'm sorry. Your Rumble channel in regards to the, property   and the trust. Is that still available?  



[03:02:02] Unknown:

The   rum the   the property? I don't think I ever did a video on   the property taxes. Is that what  

[03:02:13] Unknown:

So there was one in regards to a dollar bill,   bonded.   So that one there, I watched, and I can't seem to find it. And I think that would help the,   the couple that are concerned about their home.  

[03:02:32] Unknown:

A bonded   dollar bill   video.   That sounds like that sounds more like a class than than a rumble video.  

[03:02:43] Unknown:

I think it was.  

[03:02:45] Unknown:

Yeah. In a class, I talked about how   bonds are structured and created,   and I was using, like, the federal reserve notes to show that.   But, I mean, federal reserve notes are promissory notes, but bonds bonds are the same thing. They're promissory notes. I don't think people realize that bonds are promissory notes. It's a promise to pay.   You know?   And just like if I reserve no reserve no.  

[03:03:14] Unknown:

And I appreciate that because when I heard   Federal Reserve after, you know, we went through a lot of years of just kinda crazy stuff, I'm like, oh my god. They reserved it for us until we're able to claim it. And so then we kinda got involved in this group and several others.   So, in regards to the hospital,   we met someone the other day who,   his dad happens to be a psychiatrist,   and, he prescribes drugs.   And this is kind of personal,   issue, and I don't like talking about other people's issues. But   it was very bothersome   to hear that this man is elderly,   and he's getting many women pregnant.  

And all of these people   are his property and they're being put on drugs.   Is there any way that we could, once someone has been through that situation   and   classified   as,   with a health issue that is mental,   How would we approach that to get that taken off of the record? Ayush.  

[03:04:26] Unknown:

Alright. So if someone has, like, a   if it's if it's on record and recognized by the courts   and the state that he has, like, a mental issue,   he falls under the parent patriot doctrine,   meaning that he's considered a ward of the state to some degree.   He would have to really   just attest to   to the fact that he's competent and doesn't doesn't need to be under a wardship anymore.  

[03:04:58] Unknown:

And what did you call that? A parent tree?  

[03:05:01] Unknown:

Parents the parents' petri doctrine.   Parents' petri.  

[03:05:08] Unknown:

It's Paris patri.  

[03:05:11] Unknown:

Paris Patri. Okay.   In the in the book that I read it in, it it it it it's the, phonetic spelling   said that the parens patri, but maybe I got the phonetic spelling incorrect.  

[03:05:28] Unknown:

Sounds about right. I thank you so much. I appreciate it.  

[03:05:31] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[03:05:36] Unknown:

Not a joke. Not a joke.   I was wondering if Joe could answer a question,   on,   if he's ever heard of anything about, reclaiming a birth certificate   or a post deal of a birth certificate.  

[03:05:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   The birth certificate certificate,   it's a warehouse receipt. You know, Roger talks about this all the time. It says warehouse receipt. It's   basically, what it is is showing that you are gonna be future labor   for the government government.  

[03:06:14] Unknown:

Right.   Have you,   what's your take on reclaiming it by doing   a apostille, I think, I think?  

[03:06:23] Unknown:

I I mean, the live the certificate of live birth is an apostille   the version of the birth certificate. If you went and got it, like, authenticated,   then it doesn't have to be verified over and over again.   You can use that for traveling traveling.   You know? You could travel to other countries   with the   authenticated birth certificate certificate.   Okay. Other other than that, I don't see a lot of reason for it because it just doesn't doesn't   I no one's been able to convince me that it does anything significant   to your status,   right,  

[03:06:59] Unknown:

by authentication. Well, I've heard   I've heard claims that, it trades as a bond on the stock market, and   so I was just looking at that.  

[03:07:11] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, it's it's plugged into some QSIP somewhere because I've I've been able to find it find it in,   on Fidelity   going and searching around there.   I've been able to find it, but it's in a CUSIP. So it's not like when you find the CUSIP account that it's in that it's in, that amount that it says that it's worth is not just that one. It's all the different securities combined in there. So   and that's the thing that has to well, mine's worth   $404,100,000,000,000   dollars. Mine's worth almost a billion dollars. I'm like, that's not yours. It's like how many people's accounts are in there? There's like there's like thousands probably in that. So it's not Okay. Well, thanks for that.  

[03:07:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Thanks for that clarification.   Appreciate it. Yeah.  

[03:07:58] Unknown:

But that first certificate it's safe.   Go ahead.  

[03:08:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I want to just chime in a little bit on a lotial title.   I mean,   improper term to begin with from what I understand.   I'm using a combination   of   our affidavits and   what the book of the hundreds has to say about it. And, of course, they're very religious group   that was very active in the late nineties and did the   the abatement procedure.   But,   let me just   in in their book,   it's   it's   this is in,   definitions, and this is land.   I'll just read the first   sentence or so.   Land.   A title everyone seems to want is a lodial title to their land. We have good news and bad news. First, there is no piece of paper entitled allodial title title.   One may hold land by allodial right or in allodial,   but there is no lawful piece of paper that says allodial title at the top of it. The reason is allodial rights   and rights found in Christian   rights found in Christian common law   and not a title that civil government can grant much less martial law government.  

They go on, and they say the way you would do this is as a Christian,   you would because you could only take   an elodium, traditionally,   and through historical   fact   by inheritance.   You can't pay for it.   So they're what they're saying is as a Christian, and the way I talk about myself   in my document is,   that affidavit   form, a   a Californian,   one of the people,   a Christian,   is gonna take this inheritance   from Jesus Christ   for my allodial   rights   in the land.   I think the combination of you not being property   and that is going to be a hurdle for them to at least deal with. And   the other thing I think we all need to do is eliminate all the colors of title and colors of law that we're under,   and noticed them on all those things.  

That's sort of the approach I'm taking.   I yield.  

[03:10:53] Unknown:

Okay. Question for Joe, please.  

[03:10:59] Unknown:

K. K.  

[03:11:00] Unknown:

Hey, Joe. It's Will calling, from Georgia.   Hey. Could you you talk about that MSO again? Because because I think there might be a couple of different ones. I've got one for a certificate   of MSO for a utility trailer.   Are there different MSOs?  

[03:11:20] Unknown:

Well, the I mean, each manufacturer   manufacturer   has, like, a slightly different name for it. Name for it. Certificate of origin.   Manufacture certificate of origin. Statement of origin.  

[03:11:34] Unknown:

Or somebody's feedback. Somebody's feedback is a lot.  

[03:11:42] Unknown:

K. Thank you, bud. I'm just wondering if certificate   is not the actual,   you know,   it's not the actual thing. Right? Just a certificate.  

[03:11:56] Unknown:

Am I wrong? Well, that's that is what it is. What it is.  

[03:12:00] Unknown:

Okay.  

[03:12:03] Unknown:

Alright. Thanks, man. How are you?   Mhmm.  

[03:12:07] Unknown:

Hey, Joan. Did you have a chance to, send me that email me that document yet? Because I'm looking for it, and I don't see it. No.  

[03:12:16] Unknown:

I didn't send it.  

[03:12:22] Unknown:

K. Because,  

[03:12:23] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:12:25] Unknown:

I would be,   I would be really, really interested in,   because I've got a car that that I cannot get inspected because it won't inspect it.   And then I've got a bus that,   I'm not gonna be able to get inspected because it's just exorbitantly expensive.   And I would just rather,   just get the TMV off my ass   rather than   rob Peter to pay Paul and try and do it their way.   You know what I mean, Vern?  

[03:13:03] Unknown:

What's exorbitantly   expensive?  

[03:13:08] Unknown:

$600   to,   to inspect a commercial vehicle.  

[03:13:16] Unknown:

Damn. But it's not under a commercial application  

[03:13:19] Unknown:

anymore. Doesn't matter. It's classified as a commercial vehicle. It's registered as a commercial vehicle for private use,   but it's still a commercial vehicle. So the, the license   fee is almost $300   for a year   just for the plates   and $600   for the insure for the, inspection.   I don't have a grand to drop on a bus.   That'll cost me $50 in fuel just to get it from where it is to where I need it to be.   You know what I mean, Vernon?  

[03:13:56] Unknown:

Amazing.  

[03:13:59] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:14:00] Unknown:

It sucks. I find that amazing. What about a temporary deal of plate,  

[03:14:05] Unknown:

Paul?  

[03:14:07] Unknown:

Don't,  

[03:14:09] Unknown:

I, To borrow one from somebody that has one.  

[03:14:15] Unknown:

I don't  

[03:14:16] Unknown:

know if anybody would have you to do that. Get you to you'd be able to move it with a plate like that and pay the dude for using his plate.  

[03:14:24] Unknown:

Hello, Paul. Hello, Paul.  

[03:14:27] Unknown:

That's hang on just a second.   Hang on just a second. Get a   Hang on just a second.  

[03:14:37] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:14:39] Unknown:

For a dealer to loan their dealer plate to somebody that's not affiliated or associated with their dealership and is not moving a vehicle that's owned by the dealership,   if a dealership was to do that, they would lose that plate and every other plate they have. Yeah. They couldn't do that. Yeah. But he could move it for you move it for you. Okay. Yeah. If he had a class b license, because you have to have a class b license to move the bus.  

[03:15:07] Unknown:

Transport plates.   You knew somebody in that business. It's a one trip permit.  

[03:15:14] Unknown:

You   can buy a one trip permit for $20.  

[03:15:17] Unknown:

What about towing it with a legit vehicle and it's really driving, but it looks like it's being towed?   We do that in New York.  

[03:15:27] Unknown:

No. Actually, you cannot.  

[03:15:31] Unknown:

Well, I like to go anyway.  

[03:15:34] Unknown:

Well, it has to be towed it has to be towed by a   a legit   tow truck.  

[03:15:41] Unknown:

Yeah. I got g. Yeah.   In the hood, we got legit tow trucks that'll do it on the side. Alright. I was just thinking out loud. Sorry. Well, this this bus's dry weight is is 10 tons.  

[03:15:55] Unknown:

Who's gonna tow it? You're a car car hauler.  

[03:16:00] Unknown:

You're not really towing it. There's just a rope there to tie the insurance   to the other vehicle to make it legit. Wink wink.  

[03:16:07] Unknown:

Well, I have insurance on the bus.   I have insurance, and it has   it has,   legal plates on it right now. But it has an expired inspection. Driving legal for two years because it don't work.  

[03:16:22] Unknown:

Alright. I was just trying to help. I'm just trying to think a little more. Thank you.  

[03:16:26] Unknown:

Paul, what state are you in from?  

[03:16:29] Unknown:

New York.  

[03:16:31] Unknown:

New York. New York. Does they have a one trip permit available   for about twenty months?  

[03:16:37] Unknown:

They might have, but that's typically for the,   that's for the registration, not for the in for the inspection.   They don't have a they give you a ten day permit when they renew the inspection,   and the that ten day permit expired, oh, roughly   two hundred and eighty days ago.  

[03:16:57] Unknown:

You know, I'm not talking about that.   When I'm trying to move something, I can get I could just get a one trip permit to take,   the bus or the truck or whatever it is   on one trip, one continuous trip, either a round trip or a one way trip, however many days it takes me to complete the trip, and it's $20 for that trip permit.   And that gives me basically temporary it's like temporary. It's not registration.   It's just it's an exemption.   You wanna move it from one place to another, you can do it with a trip permit. And you can you can get behind the wheel and operate it that way.  

[03:17:38] Unknown:

That's typically to if you're going to take something out of the state   that register it somewhere else. State to another plate also.   That is that is typically done   hang on. That is typically done with a vehicle that is not registered at all.   It's a permit to put it on the road   to get it from point a to point b. It is on the road. It does have a registration.   It has valid license plates.   It has insurance.   It has everything it needs.   All it needs is an inspection.   Like, honestly, I really didn't keep talking about this was gonna take so long.  

[03:18:26] Unknown:

Alright. Here in California, I can have HP  

[03:18:30] Unknown:

coming inspected at my property. Hey. Hey, Paul. Do you take donations? If everybody gave you $10 or 60 people on the call, it'd be $600 for you.  

[03:18:39] Unknown:

No. I would rather not feed the damn beast.   If I can send them a letter and get the DMV to back the hell off, I'd rather do that because I don't wanna give them $600   even if the $600   didn't come from me.   I would wanna make better use of your money than that.  

[03:19:01] Unknown:

Paul, check your email.  

[03:19:05] Unknown:

Well,   I'd I'd I have a form   I have a form from,   from Joe that I just got. From Joe. Anyone else? Anyone else? Oh, go to your local fry out with a few out from beer beer. See if they can help you. If they can help you. But where's that echo coming? Echo. Echo.   Yeah.   Yeah.   Okay.  

[03:19:32] Unknown:

Your paperwork has been sent to 3, though. It's sent to 3, though.  

[03:19:36] Unknown:

Okay. Okay.   Alright.   The MCO form 91 c I?  

[03:19:47] Unknown:

Yeah. Remember, it's a made up made up name by Joe, but, yeah, separate instructions and then the form which is three   three are per pages long.  

[03:19:57] Unknown:

Okay.   Yeah. He had he had sent me the form.  

[03:20:03] Unknown:

Well, now you have the instruction form along with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The instructions would be  

[03:20:08] Unknown:

would be very helpful   as,   I'm pretty good usually, but I don't get everything right.   Cool. Alright. Thank you.   Call a manufacturer and find out where the car was originally registered.  

[03:20:29] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I must have sent you the one that doesn't have the instructions at the end.  

[03:20:33] Unknown:

I sent him the instructions. He he had the instructions.   Now   the version I have might have changed from whatever instructions you have or if you changed it since then.   I mean, it's the same thing. Yeah. First, it would be the same thing.  

[03:20:47] Unknown:

Yeah. You should before you go to the secretary of state, you should you should exhaust your other remedies first, which is, first, you gotta find out what state it's registered in first because they usually have the MCL, then you could send it to them.   But you can just call the car manufacturer.  

[03:21:04] Unknown:

It's registered to me in the state of New York.  

[03:21:08] Unknown:

No. No. You need the original. The the   the original   person or   man or woman who registered   it originally when it was sold as new, untitled.   And one of the quickest ways to find out is do a CARFAK and then go to the first owner unless you already know it's you. If you know you're the very, very first owner,   then there are forms that you need to fill out at the state level   through the DMV to get the records pulled in. Usually, the last page or the third page, depending on what order they staple it in, you will have a carbon copy of the MSO.   Now we can hope that the MSO or MCO that they take a photocopy of is in clear enough   that you can read, then you can pull off the data that you need if need be off the item.  

And then follow the rest of the directions depending on what the rest of it says, whether it needs information off of it or not.   But the fact is at least you have a copy so you know exactly what it looks like.  

[03:22:07] Unknown:

Okay. So I can do a CARFAX   on a   school bus?  

[03:22:13] Unknown:

Yeah. You should be able to do a CARFAX or an auto AutoCheck is the other company that runs the VIN numbers to figure out where it's been, how many miles, blah blah blah, if it's a lemon, blah blah blah, this, that, and the other. The whole point is   if you don't know the originator   and where it was first titled, that's why you're trying to find that. Then you go to that state   and you fill out their forms. And then it says, well, why why should we give you this information? You just explain them, you know, I'm the corp owner, blah blah blah, whatever.   And it's for my personal usage only, you know, this, that, and the other, and they'll send it to you. It'll be a packet, but it it'll be in there.  

Okay.   I know this because I've done it for I've done it for people, and I've done it for myself. And,   I have, you know, my MCO. And then   you can go from there if you're going   this   other way that, Joe is talking about after you've exhausted said remedies administratively.  

[03:23:14] Unknown:

Well, the current state   should have the MCO because they would have requested it from the previous state. Right?  

[03:23:22] Unknown:

Nope. Not necessarily.   The MSO usually stays with the original state when it was first,   registered in.   And   it's been a hit or miss on whether they actually destroy the MSO   or when you do Joe's process,   whatever they sent you, if it actually says duplicate   or it doesn't say duplicate   on the MSO version that they send you.   But from my understanding under the laws regarding MSO, even if it says duplicate, you are the holder in due course, and it's on our official   watermark this, that, and whatever security paper. It it it is just as good as the original   even though it says duplicate if it says duplicate on it.  



[03:24:04] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[03:24:06] Unknown:

Therefore, you can still merge titles.   Hey. My car is paid off, and I have a title.   It was my girlfriend's, and we're changing it over to my name.   But the original owner   was the car dealership, and it was used as a demo.  

[03:24:23] Unknown:

But it got a lot of was it ever titled, though? See, there's a difference between  

[03:24:27] Unknown:

It wasn't played at the back end. Or not.  

[03:24:31] Unknown:

Yeah. It it's titled now. K. Because I I know this also because I used to work for dealerships.  

[03:24:37] Unknown:

So   Yeah.   Yeah. I used to do drive away, and I've had MCOs in my hand processing.  

[03:24:44] Unknown:

Alright. Alright. Yep.   Well, if you don't connect state, then you can just request,   through the state forms slash DMV or BMV depending on what state you're in.   Mhmm.   And then,   usually, they'll have it within a month or so. Let's see how long it takes.  

[03:25:03] Unknown:

In Masshole  

[03:25:05] Unknown:

in Masshole, Massachusetts, it's called the registry.   Okay. Isn't that so regal?  

[03:25:14] Unknown:

Well, best place to hide the secret is right in front of you because nobody says, oh, what does that really mean?  

[03:25:23] Unknown:

All those people are so cowed over there. Damn.   I'm glad I'm out of there.  

[03:25:30] Unknown:

Damn. Just go state hopping. Get get get out of every communist type of state we can get. Right?  

[03:25:37] Unknown:

But it's all under My wife wants to move back there.  

[03:25:42] Unknown:

I'm sorry.  

[03:25:44] Unknown:

My wife wants to move back there. Where are you from? In Masshole?  

[03:25:50] Unknown:

I lived in Havert Hill, Haverhill, and   Lowell.  

[03:25:56] Unknown:

And, also, I I  

[03:25:58] Unknown:

it's been a little time up in Nashua, New Hampshire.  

[03:26:03] Unknown:

And my four progeny was born in Worcester.  

[03:26:08] Unknown:

In Worcester?  

[03:26:11] Unknown:

Next to next to Leominster,  

[03:26:14] Unknown:

which is which is near to Peabody.  

[03:26:17] Unknown:

Mhmm. Peabody.  

[03:26:22] Unknown:

Is Joe still on here?   Yeah. I'm still here. Oh, hey, Joe. You're fine. Get your email address, please.  

[03:26:33] Unknown:

Are you on the phone or computer?  

[03:26:37] Unknown:

Well, no. I'm on I'm on a No.   What, Pam? Phone.   You're on the computer now?   She   says she's on the computer computer.  

[03:26:56] Unknown:

No. No. I'll type it in here.  

[03:26:59] Unknown:

In the chat.  

[03:27:01] Unknown:

Mhmm. Yeah. That's why I asked.   But it's it's   j247@Gmail.   It's it's J.   But it's on the it's in the description box of every one of my videos on Rumble.  

[03:27:19] Unknown:

Okay. Okay.   Don't don't forget. Nobody no. Nobody reads. Remember that? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Because I'm blind.   Blind. Well, that's a good reason. I'm not saying that as an excuse to be funny. But yeah.  

[03:27:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Actually, now I'm looking at it. I don't think   I don't see it on here, actually.   I'll never once see that back. Apparently, it's not in here. I thought it was, and it's apparently, it's not. Let me see. Let me check another.  

[03:27:52] Unknown:

Yeah. It's not I was going by. Weird way it is. It is. I have my Pretty sure it's on there. You gotta look.  

[03:27:59] Unknown:

My Linktree link is on here, and that that definitely has my email in it. So Well, there you go.  

[03:28:04] Unknown:

Alright. I  

[03:28:09] Unknown:

don't even see that in here now.   I don't know.  

[03:28:17] Unknown:

I don't have  

[03:28:19] Unknown:

something to this conversation now. It just came to my mind.   Does anybody here   have a high level position at a dealership   like management   or know anybody?   And the reason I ask is I have a company   that can send out   the MSO paper.   And after you get the copy of the MSO that is   at whatever state that it was first registered in, you can literally copy the information off of it and put it on the   MSO paperwork.   But they only do it through dealerships.   So,   obviously, if they can verify you are at a position,   you know, management user hire   and put an order in for the paperwork,   you will literally get blank   bond paper, if you will.  

And then, of course, they have templates, and you would print out on plain paper,   semi transparent so you can see and make sure everything lines up on the MSO. You print it off, and, literally, there you go. You have it. Now according to the website, there's no there's   no laws set that you can't do it as long as you're a dealership,   and some other stuff. So   I was like, well, that sounds nice.   I've said I'm not I'm not a dealership, so I couldn't   order it anymore.  

[03:29:49] Unknown:

Years ago, I knew a guy from the service   that became a GM for a,   a car dealership.   And by that time in his life, he didn't have any friends.   Even his even his   fiancee   or yeah. I think his fiancee,   she was on the outs with him. He was such a dick.  

[03:30:15] Unknown:

Okay.   Well, that doesn't help us.   It's just a just another option   for anybody who wants to   take another route. I I I wouldn't say it's the easiest way, but using the method, keep it simple stupid.   You know, why jump through unnecessary hoops if you don't need to?  

[03:30:40] Unknown:

Hey, Joe. Joe.  

[03:30:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[03:30:46] Unknown:

From what you've uncovered and what you teach in here   and you see and so forth,   the ones the people at least in this country that are, quote, the elite,   they're using these techniques and taught them from an early age.   So that's how they get rich and become billionaires and millionaires and so forth. Would you agree agree?  

[03:31:09] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean,   the the rich   teach their children   how to stay rich.   Now,   they show them, like, little tricks that they're using using.   Once you have lots of money, it's really easy to keep it.   You know? There's lots of games you can play utilizing different types of legal entities like trusts, LLCs, and stuff like that to create,   you know, like, like well, one thing is passive income. Another thing is to keep production moving. Another thing is to hold and move properties   out of different different entities   so that way it doesn't get taken away from you.  

They do it with trust. They do it with LLCs. They do it with you know, those are called. That's what a straw man actually is. It's one of these dummy corporations,   right, that they'll set up for that. That's they call that a straw   man. That's the correct uses of straw man and stuff like that. So they set up the straw man,   entities and,   utilize those things to do all these   weird financial things. And then   one once they make money off of that, they can move it over to somewhere else. And then It basically gets cleaned up because then it looks like a legitimate business deal,   and then that straw company can get   get set on fire on fire. Well, it burned because it doesn't matter.  



[03:32:40] Unknown:

Yes. If you look, Trump has hundreds of these troll companies that you're talking about.  

[03:32:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I mean, it makes sense. I in my trust community, we're going over right now how to create passive income using trusts.   So we're using we're we're utilizing   four trusts,   and they're gonna all have a,   a network with each other.   Right? And we're going over one by one how to set up each trust and what to do with it,   how to utilize it. The operating trust, which is gonna be doing with the business section of things,   that one's gonna be   we're probably gonna it's probably gonna take, like, a month or two to go through all that because there's a lot of details on how to set it up properly. We're not talking we're not trying to do the straw   man kinda crap. We're like, this is legitimate. Like, hey. Let's make some money. What's everyone be, like, at least financially   well off, you know, where no one's, like, hurting or struggling. We have a a plan of action so that way you're always creating income. You don't have to depend on, you know, like, government,   you know, the the Social Security when you retire. You know? You have something that you can you can create and build upon to make more money as you get older that doesn't have to that doesn't require you breaking your back breaking your back.  

So that's what we're working on now.   But, yeah, that's the we're so we're working on the operating trust portion portion of it right now.  

[03:34:19] Unknown:

Sounds like fun. Hey, Joe.  

[03:34:22] Unknown:

Mhmm. Yeah.  

[03:34:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Getting back to the coupon, if a debt collector sent you a coupon   for a settlement   and the original creditor was,   a credit card bank,   and then they they passed it off to a debt collector   who sends you a settlement letter for, like, say,   you only have to pay 25%   of the original bill,   and then they have a coupon at the bottom.   And in that settlement letter, they say,   okay. You gotta do it by this date.   But on the coupon, there is no expiration date. Just in the settlement letter, they're putting an expiration date on it. Can you still   send that coupon in   after the expiration date?  



[03:35:09] Unknown:

Well, you could. I mean, try to maybe, like, backdate the, the mailing or something. But,   technically,   I mean, I would just do it and see how they respond to it because maybe they I think they're probably in a position where they're gonna go, we'll just take whatever we can get and walk away from it. You know?  

[03:35:49] Unknown:

Joe, what kind of language do you, recommend putting on the coupon?  

[03:35:54] Unknown:

Curse words. Lots of curse words.   Dig up old fashioned curse words that are not even used anymore, and you put that on there too.  

[03:36:05] Unknown:

That's funny. Just  

[03:36:08] Unknown:

you tilt your head. Blow that.  

[03:36:12] Unknown:

I mean, I I just write paid to the order of. You know? It's check language. You know? Pretty pretty simple.   I just signed it without recourse   because with that recourse just means that you're no longer liable to any subsequent holder.  

[03:36:29] Unknown:

Do you, put any particular US code on it code on it? No.  

[03:36:35] Unknown:

I've seen people do that. I'm like   I'm like, why do you do that to go? Because you have to. I've talked to these guys who go, no. You have to put it on there. And I'm like,   well, I've not put it on there, and it worked. I'm like, well, you got lucky. And I'm like, well, it works with a check without putting the codes on there on there.  

[03:36:55] Unknown:

Do you so do you write do you write anything about deposit at the department of the treasury and your Social Security number without dashes?  

[03:37:04] Unknown:

No. The account number that you have with that company   is is in your Social Security number is embedded into that account.   And so it was already used to open up that account in the first place. So it's embedded in in your account with the company.   Like a sticker they put on top of your Social Security account saying, you don't like, alright. Let's say you go buy a,   a product. Right? Let's say you buy a, like,   a, like, Fiji water. Okay?   But you don't want people to know that you're drinking Fiji water, so you get a sticker that says Poland Spring, and you slap that over the Fiji sticker, and everyone thinks you're drinking Poland Spring water.   Right? It's still Fiji water underneath. It just looks like Poland Spring.  



[03:37:52] Unknown:

Okay. So if if you send that coupon and just treat it like a regular check,   what if you get a letter back because some ignoramus agent   re   reads the coupon and says well, the he he forgot to send in the check the check, like, you know, like, a check from your bank.   If what if you get a letter back like that?  

[03:38:13] Unknown:

Yes. Lily and mom are coming back here coming back here. Yeah.  

[03:38:18] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[03:38:20] Unknown:

They forgot something, I guess, and Lily wants to wants to meet a meet a  

[03:38:29] Unknown:

I think he realized he's on. He's not muted.  

[03:38:33] Unknown:

Help with another another   Hamlin Switz.  

[03:38:38] Unknown:

He's not gonna ask or what? No.  

[03:38:40] Unknown:

He's he's talking to somebody else. He doesn't realize he's unmuted.  

[03:38:50] Unknown:

Let me find him.  

[03:38:52] Unknown:

That was Michael.   Michael. Anyway,   what was he gonna say?   Oh, yeah. If they reject the coupon. I mean,   one thing is that you should make sure you read, like, all your I mean, if it's a debt collector, just send it right back to them. You know? And   they typically will just leave you alone. If they tell you they don't take that form of payment payment, then you can just write them another letter saying,   well, thank you for acknowledging that it is a form of payment.   Okay? Because that's what they normally say. They say, oh, we don't take this form of payment.   So they've acknowledged that it is a form of payment.  

Right?   Boy, a lot of people like talking to me. That's a good idea. Thank you.   And then, and then what you do is you just say, well,   you know,   prove to me that you're not securitizing   this account   and putting into, like, a like, a PSA, like, a pooling servicing agreement,   you know, and, making asset backed security   that,   your parent company is using to create bonds to sell to investors.   You never hear you'll never hear from them again after that   because that that is exactly what they're doing.   They're using it to create more money from investors.   So   Oh. I don't know.  



[03:40:20] Unknown:

So when when you apply for a credit card or something like that and you're turned down,   do they still take your application and securitize it and make money anyway?  

[03:40:32] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Of course. Yes. They do.  

[03:40:35] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Jimmy knows all about that for sure. Remember, you cannot be denied. You gotta understand from   kinda on the lines of what we're talking about here,   is okay. What did you give   Amex, for example, even though they denied you denied you,   within a letter that's usually too bare as long, and they say you have   thirty days or sixty days,   to respond to said letter.   Well well,   there's a trade. There's a barter going on. That's where like a ten ninety nine d comes in and an a   Okay. I gave you a security. I need something in exchange. This is the parter.   I need access to credits. You need a instrument,   which is the security.  

The first security is the application. Second would be, you know, various other things, like the contract or or whatever.   And then   basically without using any UCC, you put them right in the right in the kit, sir, because you're not supposed to know about the securities and what they're gonna do with that application. By the way, that application   has a very specific number on it that you want to get, and then you can lean and put a UCC one on it   to at least put,   notice out to the public. Oh, I have a   security interest in this.   Whatever the value may be, you'll have to go down   and go find what Koosup that will eventually be attached to it.  

And then you can play that game later on, but they can't deny you for   for that reason   in itself. And then, of course, if you wanna go down the route of,   okay, I have unlimited security under UCC this blah blah blah, this, that, and the other. Yeah. That's another way that's a little harder to push, but,   that's why you can't be denied. We're doing a barter. I give you this. I need something of equal value or better   in exchange for the security I gave you.   And then you could I I guess you could add on what Joe said, you know, okay. Tell me about the pooling agreement, this, that, you know, call their   not really call it a bluff, but, you know, put them in a corner where they can't really   do much do much other than get in trouble if they talk about it. You know?  



[03:42:49] Unknown:

Okay. So,   so if this is,   is this an an official wedding signature application for credit   where they send you a denial letter or, like,   say, a,   during purchase,   like applying for PayPal,   four payments, no interest   kind of a thing.  

[03:43:13] Unknown:

Well, most of the time, due to the electronic transfers   act along with digital signature,   I forget if it's an actor or some other thing that they   stem I   within, I think, the last five to ten years past and they're slowly getting everybody to get off paper forms. Technically, normally it's on the iPad   or some digital version. Now by law, you still can I don't know the lock top of my head or within the rules of   other things that I can't tell off top of my head where you can ask for a paper form,   and then go that route?   And then sign it certain ways, this, that, or whatever. Or technically, if you're really smart, you can change that contract.  

The quad I'll call it a quasi contract because they don't sign it as a second party. So   you could try that and get away with it. I I've heard of a story that somebody did that once with a credit card. It's years ago   when they still had paper forms.   I take it, he scanned it in his computer into a PDF or whatever where he could edit the living heck out of it. He changed certain terms and conditions where the liabilities   that are normally put on the debtor, aka us as agent for the principal,   or for the principal and not being agent for service to process.   He turned around where no, you gotta do this for me, this for me, I get unlimited credit. I get this, I get that.  

And I guess long story short,   after the   so called contract   cured after thirty days, the credit card company figured it out. And they're like, oops. It's kinda too late.   How can we   renegotiate   these terms with the credit card?   And I guess they did some   renegotiations   or whatever, and I'm guessing there's probably an NDA in there somewhere. But   as far as I know, he   he can use the card almost any which way within the terms that he's changed.   And they really can't do much because, you know, they accepted it. It cured.   They caught it too late too late because, you know, who in the world who in their right mind reads any credit card agreement   of the tiny print and then changes it and then sends it back in in paper form   where they probably didn't have scanners and AI to figure out what's in the   document   and didn't read it until, you know, it's too late. But Mhmm.  

That's technically what you could do just like in a mortgage. If you look at   or your car contract, it says, for example, on page one and pretty much every contract that's about five or six pages long.   You give up a lot of rights without it literally saying, I give up my rights in this and this. No. I it it they'll reword it for for example.   I give security interest in vehicle.   Okay? Next line will kinda explain what the vehicle is if they wanna get more technical.   But, I mean, certain things just like that right off the bat, you're like, why the hell would I do that?   If you know that the security   is technically the promissory note or whatever the the so called loan is,   At the end of the at the end of this transaction, it's a barter transaction. I get the car, that's my prize,   and the MSO,   you get the security and you can go   do what you want on the primary market first   through the treasury, then they sell it on the secondary market, which is,   usually the stock market in The United States, America, or China, or the one in Europe. And I think maybe there's a fourth one, but it'll lose my mind at the moment.  

And that is a way that you can handle it. Now you will not necessarily do this in the public because the salesperson and the sales manager and their manager and the car dealership   is probably really not gonna know what you're talking about unless you got somebody who really knows what they're talking about.   Maybe the owner and their legal team that runs the dealership would know what you're talking about. But   that's kind of way of what's really happening,   then going in there blind like most of us have been until we've figured out this   information. I'll just sign on the dotted line and, oh oh, look at me. I got the car and   no. You didn't get the car. You just got a debt. You know? And then same thing with the mortgage. Oh oh, you got the American dream. What dream? No. You just got a mortgage.  

At the signing table, if if you were to have signed the deed over first and then the promissory note or the promissory note first and then the deed,   you technically   could tell the   title company sitting at the table, give me the keys to the house and not even bother signing that damn mortgage whatsoever because who's the holder in due course at that point?   You got the deed to the house   regardless. It's not a lawyer. Just, you know, for sake of how we normally do things.   And   the exchange here is, okay. You sound the promissory note. They've got their collateral. You've got the prize, the deed of the house. Screw the mortgage. Why would I why would I give it back to you? And or   on top of that,   which most people do, they'll tell the title company, oh, title company's like, oh, I'll take the deed, and I'll go register for you on the county record. You don't want that. You don't want that. That tax transfer stamp is not what you think it is. You're transferring that property right   to the county,   I e, now we could attach you for it. Oh, I'm sorry. You don't have an equitable title anymore. Now there's a benefit who benefits from it. Oh, now I could attach your app,   I e, property tax. So Mhmm.  

Technically, that is a way to do it.   Obviously, you'd   stop the hell out of the attorney if they know what you're doing at the table. They're probably not gonna like it, but they literally legally can't do shit.   And, of course, the deed, you need to accept it because you got a grantor to a grantee, and you need to do a grantee acceptance.   And then   you do not file this onto the county record whatsoever. You keep that like it's a gold piece of paper   and you put it in a safe somewhere or whatever.   That you're the holder in due course. And then, of course, you could do the elodium thing and this, that, and that,   and, you know, run with that. And then   since you got both titles in your hand, you've merged titles.  

What is the county gonna do?   They can't put a lien on something that's not recorded   as far as I know.   And, of course, they can't put any lien on an eloidium,   lack of better term title,   either.   And, of course, by having both of those pieces of paper, if you will,   county man comes along and says, oh, I'm sorry. Do you have a permit for that deck? You can tell him to go blow smoke.   They they don't have any control of the property. No no no more lights. I think none of this, none of that. If you build a deck and you fall because you're a crappy craftsman or whatever, that's on you.   So, anyway, that's that's that's it.  



[03:49:58] Unknown:

Okay. Thank you. Joe had to go. He left,   while you were talking.   Sorry. I stole his thunder.   I hope nobody,   I hope nobody had anything else they wanted to ask him. But if they did, I'm sure they'd be but maybe you could help me, Paul.   Well, I don't think I don't know a Scotty.   Well, I Is there a scooter involved?  

[03:50:23] Unknown:

Good quest   good question. I'm working on that now.   No.   My driver's license has been suspended since forever since before the Sandy Superstorm, but I did have it. I did have a copy of it, but I lost that about two years ago on my scooter, actually. And then somebody called me. They found it, but I wasn't able to get to him to get it, and he moved out out of the country.   So   now they're doing the real ID.   I have a passport that's expired,   and I have a copy of my license, not the one I lost, but one from, like,   many, many of the eighties,   both with pictures.  

And that's all I got for ID in the world.   So I was thinking,   should I get a passport   card for an ID or not a passport or a license?  

[03:51:13] Unknown:

What is Forget the license. Get get the get the get the passport and ID card   from the state department because it it it qualifies under their real ID crap.  

[03:51:25] Unknown:

Well, that's just it. I wanna avoid the real ID. So,  

[03:51:28] Unknown:

well, it it qualifies  

[03:51:29] Unknown:

under if you wanna go live in the woods.  

[03:51:32] Unknown:

It qualifies under the real ID thing,   Scotty. It qualifies under the real ID thing. It's not a real ID, but it's as good as, and it also qualifies as an international driver's license.  

[03:51:45] Unknown:

But it's not actually a real ID?  

[03:51:47] Unknown:

Correct. Oh, it's not. It doesn't   have the star of Dave and all that crap.  

[03:51:52] Unknown:

Alright. Well, that that that'll work. So it's actually not the passport office. I'm going to the state department, did you say?  

[03:52:00] Unknown:

Yeah. No. They're the ones that issue it. The Department of State issues your passport and passport card. You want both.   So where do I go? Not motor vehicles. I'm going to the passport office. You you you you'll pull out a d s 11 unless you're renewing, but there are certain rules within the limitations of time in order to renew renew. Now if it's been, I think, over seven or ten years of your old passport, then, yes, you're gonna they're gonna force you to do a d s 11 instead of the renewal form.   Yeah. I think it is longer than that. Yeah. Okay. Well, then you'll be fine to do a d s 11. You can do the thing with what Rogers says to do. So that's a motor vehicles form. So I do have to go to motor No. No. No. No. You're skipping the DMV. The DMV, BMV, throw that out of your mind. I don't know what a d s 11 is.  

Okay. That is the specific form from the Department of State for for passport application.   Oh, okay. Alright. That'll work. So Yeah. D s 11, you're gonna have to go to Walgreens or or   or some place that takes photos.   They'll do it on a back,   on a white background.   You can't have glasses on or a hat or whatever, and you're gonna take two pictures for   the purposes of the passport.   And then you can you either go into a local branch and get it the same day. It takes four to six hours to get depending on what time you get in there at.   Or you can go through certified post office slash   postal services that will do and send it certified or assert it   send it for you for you, the application and stuff through the mail, and then you'll have to wait maybe a month or whatever depending on how this whole   closing government thing is. But keep in mind keep in mind, one of the only government agencies or so called that is still operating even though the government is closed, believe it or not, is the passport agency.  



[03:53:48] Unknown:

Okay. Oh. I'm not for Scotty. Folks. I forgot about that. Scotty. So Scotty. That was so I didn't need Joe. That was actually better than Joe would have done. So I need the d s 11 form from the Department of State, and that it it it I have that correct?  

[03:54:04] Unknown:

Yes. Yes. What what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna have to get the d s 11 form.   Just just Google d s hyphen 11 PDF,   and you can actually download it and print it yourself, or you can look at it online,   read the instructions   twice   because it'll tell you what forms of ID that you will need   to be able   to file that form and apply for a passport.   You know? You're you're open to sure work work work work work as ID.  

[03:54:36] Unknown:

Hidden option in the instruction form. If you refuse to use a a,   license, quote, unquote, you can have a witness. I think it's one or two witnesses. They can do an affidavit. They have to be with you if you're going in   to say,   here I hereby claim this is John Smith or whatever. I've known them for five or six years or what whatever the terms are for that agreement,   and they're supposed to accept that. Now in the event that they give you a hard time and they can't do that,   you can technically go down to the DMV slash b and b depending what state you're in and just get a ID card only   and not a driver's license,  

[03:55:16] Unknown:

and that will qualify as an ID also. That'll work too. I don't actually need the license.   Alright. Wow. This is great. I'm not listening back to this recording. Oh, thank you so much. I haven't been on this call in a while, but I'm glad I'm back. I'm gonna come off, and I just been overwhelmed.   Oh, man. Yeah.  

[03:55:33] Unknown:

If you can avoid getting the ID from the DMV and all that crap, get you know, that's up to you ultimately.   But sever that contract   get rid of it get rid of it. Keep keep the licenses, though,   because in the event down the road that you wanna go claim the   securities on the license, whether it's the one from the eighties   or the recent one that you might have had ten years ago or whatever, you're gonna need that driver's license number.   Because eventually, you go to Fidelity,   get a relationship there,   or Charles Schwab or whatever,   Get a person who has the right security   security license, I think a 63 or 64 and a 7, and a few others that can run that number that number and find it in their system and connect it to   a crew trip number which will   actually be pulled together with some other   driver's license numbers and whatever. Point being is you're gonna find out what the security is specifically to your number   and then you could do a u c t one and do all these claims on it and whatever and, you know, go from there once you get to that point and eventually go claim the money that's due to you.  



[03:56:40] Unknown:

Wow. It'd be nice to get my life back.  

[03:56:43] Unknown:

Well, the Dyson's usually worth about 10,000,000 every every time you renew this thing.  

[03:56:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Wow. Very, very helpful. Thank you so much.  

[03:56:51] Unknown:

Yeah. What what's worth 10,000,000 every time you use them?  

[03:56:56] Unknown:

Your your license. You know how they renew? They sell you every five years or ten years. Now back in the day, it used to not have that kind of length. It used to be, what, three years   renewal rates, and then it was five. Now it's ten.   And that's basically because they got renewed they're they're renewing or creating another bond on it because the other one has matured or whatever, and they can't  

[03:57:16] Unknown:

they can't use it anymore. They'll they'll create another one. And what I came up with while you were talking about that, if they give me any feedback of problems about the not idea, this the witnesses, I'm gonna go to the freaking tyrant   that took my license before the Sandy Storm and subpoena them to be my witness.  

[03:57:34] Unknown:

I'm gonna they'll do something with starter key. I I I don't think I don't think you need to do that. But Well, it's gonna be fun. I'm I'm out to get them. Okay. Yeah. And I Well well, remember, you're subpoenaing them for a privilege. You're not trying to get a privilege. The privilege of Yeah. I understand. Yeah. But Yeah. There's a lot more things I didn't mention. I got them if I wanna get them. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much. Okay. With the exception of, obviously, commercial stuff where they have the ability according to the constitution to regulate interstate commerce, blah blah blah, this and that. Like,   I find it funny that just because somebody has a butt,   and let's say they convert it to a camper. I mean, they got the thing and turned into a mobile home yet   they gotta get special insurance because it's labeled as a butt. I mean, it's so ridiculous. So I'm like, prove that it's commercial. Just because it's labeled for commercial doesn't mean it's being used in commercial. Right? I mean, it's so stupid.  

I've seen people use   the front hold on a second. I'll give you a crazy example.   There are people out there that can literally get   the front of a,   well, the cabin, the truck. Right? And they're and they're not pulling, you know, the 50 foot,   trailer, for example. Somehow they can get that particular type of truck.   I know there's a certain size limit and stuff that literally they can reclassify it   as noncommercial, and then you'll see folks literally who are millionaires   that will be pulling their two story or one story   RV behind it. Yet   that person or or whoever their driver is does not have to have a CDL   even though it looks like a   registered commercial, you know,   truck with, you know, the extensions and all that other junk. Or, I mean, the cab. And I'm like, okay. See, if they can do it with that kind of truck, why can't we reclassify a bus that's not being used as a bus   in the commercial sense?  

That's what I have. And have regular insurance on the damn thing. I mean, it's so stupid.  

[03:59:31] Unknown:

That's what I have. I have a 2006   Yeah.   International 300,   40 feet long, dry weight is 18,000   pounds,   and,   the maximum gross vehicle weight is 31,000.   But it is registered with the state of New York as a commercial vehicle for private   use.  

[03:59:54] Unknown:

Okay.   Yeah. I think we've got a   we've got a box truck. And I I've looked at it. I'm like,   their insurance company won't give you regular insurance on this. Well, they know. No. They're like, you know what? You gotta pay $5 a year for this because they think it's commercial. And No. No. Actually, I I insure it. No. No. I'm saying an example that that I know of. A friend of mine Right. Has a box truck.   And I'm just saying and pointing out how ridiculous it is.   I insure it. The the the, VIN number shows up as commercial. They just automatically think everything's commercial, but  

[04:00:27] Unknown:

Right. Well, I insure my boss through Progressive,   and it cost me $56   a month for insurance.  

[04:00:36] Unknown:

Oh, you got a better deal than my friend. He pays $5 up the butt.  

[04:00:39] Unknown:

Yeah. It's it's progressive commercial.   Go to go to progressive commercial and just get a quote.  

[04:00:50] Unknown:

Well, I've He did very well for me. What he did. And he wasn't too happy with it. He's like, well, that's what it is. I don't know what you needed a truck to   move and haul your stuff, and you have a big lift gate and everything else. I'm like, oh, it's kinda He's not using it for commercial per se. He just moves stuff between houses or whatever. But  

[04:01:08] Unknown:

Right.  

[04:01:09] Unknown:

Yeah. And I'm like, well, yeah. See, that's that's what really sucks about this whole let's try to get everything under commerce and get everybody   other than the fourteenth amendment thing.   How can we twist everything into commerce? Commerce, commerce, commerce, commerce.   It's like ridiculous. Like, there's a court case. I can't think of it off the top of my head where   somebody had felonious gun charges for, you know, fully automatic and some other junk.  

[04:01:34] Unknown:

And he was able to win his case because he  

[04:01:37] Unknown:

he the opposing attorney could not prove that the so called firearm   was used in anything via commerce and crossing state lines and also other junk.   And of course, he argued, what's the definition of firearm? When you actually look up the ATS definition and the government's definition of firearm,   it's not your Glock. It's not your daddy's   Remington rifle this and that. No, it's literally   a type of like rifle with a certain inch barrel. I mean, they're very specific on what a firearm is. And I'm like,   yeah. Wait. I'm not buying a fire I'm buying a pistol. I'm buying a gun, an an arm, but this is not a firearm.   He stole it. It's just like the tax thing. When you read the tax code and   you apply their own words against them,   does anybody here hold public office?  

Are are they in the are they working for an actual employer, which is a part of the government   within the territorial jurisdiction of   The United States, not The United States Of America with the lowercase s union states that's separate,   makes you foreign   to the taxes. It has nothing to do with tax   evasion. If you look in their Title 26 and I think there's no title that covers that, it's hidden.   You are legally allowed in their own code to do tax avoidant.   Everybody   twists the words because they just don't understand or they're just brainwashed and heard the same phrase over and over and they don't think of tax avoidance.   It sounds the same, but when they legally define it in their code, it's, oh, no,   You are more than happy to avoid all the taxes you want legally.  

So that's an example of   twisted words and and whatever else they wanna   blind us with, you know.   Forked tongue, I think you would call it, and and double speak.  

[04:03:34] Unknown:

Yeah.   Forked tongue.   I'd love that forked tongue.  

[04:03:42] Unknown:

Yeah. They they got a few books on it too.  

[04:03:46] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[04:03:48] Unknown:

Well, are the, the book on magic words or something, m I g I k or something spelled like that, and it talks about the word magic and what the hell they do with the languages, and they're all   buffoonery, basically. And it's all,   well,   I guess to a large extent it's all made up. You know, when somebody says, oh, let's make them a word and they add it to the English dictionary. It's like, well, who decided that this is a word?   You   know? And then and then legally, so let's go twist it up   and, redefine everything. You know, it's like   Babel, I think, is what they call it.  

Or like Silent Wings is supposed to be Babbel too.  

[04:04:39] Unknown:

So I think you mentioned trying to get  

[04:04:42] Unknown:

the MSO for the bus or some other vehicle.  

[04:04:46] Unknown:

I'm trying to,   I'm trying to do whatever I can do   to, get the DMV out of my business   with respect to the bus   and a 2013   Chevy Cruze that,   would cost me $2,000   to repair so they would inspect it.   So  

[04:05:10] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Okay.  

[04:05:12] Unknown:

No. I have a car that's got,   I have a car that has a,   book value   of $1,800   and a $2,000   repair estimate.  

[04:05:27] Unknown:

That that does it work though?  

[04:05:29] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[04:05:30] Unknown:

Yeah. It runs. K. So so so so the $2,000 repair is just some shop that was overcharged to fix it?  

[04:05:37] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. And the the shop wants to shop wants to charge me $2,000   to repair it so   I can actually inspect an $1,800   vehicle and drive it.   Yes. And it exceeds the value of the car.  

[04:05:54] Unknown:

Let let me guess. Because of that fix, it won't pass the small thing or whatever. Right? Right.  

[04:06:00] Unknown:

No. It's it's got a check engine light on.   Got a check engine light on, and they don't exactly know what's causing it. And,   they gave me an estimate of $2,000   because they didn't want   to give me an estimate they couldn't exceed by more than 10%.  

[04:06:18] Unknown:

Right. Right. Okay.   Now   even though it's not gonna help you, I if   you don't know   if you lived in New York for a long time, some states like in Georgia,   certain counties within the state, they don't have any smog regulations. So they're like,   we don't care about your inspection. Here's your renewal ticket. Give us $20 or or or whatever the abalone is for the year.   Now I don't know if New York is that open, which I doubt it because it's New York. But   Right. Does any of your counties have a we don't care about how much small your car creates?  

[04:06:52] Unknown:

Not that I know of.   Okay. I already I already live 35 miles, 38 miles away from   small to,   middle sized city.   I live in a village. It's got 1,800 people in it.   I, for all intents and purposes, are out in the boondocks.   Okay.   Good. And the same the same crap still applies.  

[04:07:18] Unknown:

Okay.   Now   if you're still planning to come to Georgia next year   Okay. We have plenty of counties down here.   If by happenstance, it's the county that you decide to move in, it will just be a bonus for you. But   irregardless   to that,   if you take your vehicle out of the DMV and you do   other things to stand on your square, if you will, which would include the pass port   stuff.   You can do what I do. I mean, I don't I don't have anything registered.   Not only do I have nothing registered,   the tags cannot be traced or anything in the system because there's a certain form in Georgia that I imagine there is one in   every state where you can file   and give them notice that you're rescinding,   basically, it doesn't say precision on it, but that's basically what you're doing   and telling them that the vehicle is either converted to agriculture, is using an option,   it's been destroyed, it's not road worthy, you know, this, that, or the other, and then there's, like, an other box.  

Basically,   you can choose one of those or explain something, but to the effect of, okay, it's no longer   comparable, useful, trash, junk, it's going to the junk keep,   or or or whatever. You don't need the necessary to tell them a whole story.   But usually, at least in Georgia within, I think, thirty days, they'll take it out of their whole system, can't be searched. I don't care if they search the VIN number or whatever. It's not gonna be in there.   My point being here is you're   ultimately removing   jurisdiction   over the vehicle   or the automobile. So when you get pulled over,   when the cops says, hey. Give me your license or whatever. You give them their passport and you go through that spiel. They don't like you whether they run it or not. Obviously, if they run it and they let you go, then who cares? Go on your way.  

But for the purpose of this example, let's say for whatever reason, they don't wanna let you go.   And the cop wants to threaten. I'm gonna tell you because   you have a fictitious plate or the plate is expired   blah blah blah. And then they go run the VIN number after they check your insurance, and they're gonna find out.   Well, it's not registered to the state slash the county slash the DMV or the BMV   by all those franchise extensions of having jurisdiction.   So if the cop is going to follow the jurisdictional rules,   either by his own knowledge or if he calls today and then asks his boss or superior about,   can I tow the vehicle? Because it doesn't have a, b, c, and d yet. It doesn't have jurisdiction.  

If he follows it, he cannot tow the car, period.   So that is a plus for that,   as to why you take it out of their system because you don't want them to have any more jurisdiction than possible other than the whole merging of tiles that we all spoke of earlier.   And the second part of this,   they were like a three step. That'd be like part one. Part two, hopefully, you merge titles and get the MSO. So you are the true holder in due course. So in the event that you had to go to court just because   even though we're right and we're standing on our square and they really wanna test you, sometimes you're gonna have to go to court. That's regardless of how much   stuff we do correct or even Rogers process and they decide to spit on it and say, well, I don't care if it says you're a diplomat. We're still gonna do it anyway.  

Then, obviously, beyond that, you need to know how to stand on your square beyond that.   One of the ways is, you know, the jurisdictional issues and, you know, okay, I'm the holder of new course,   work to the contract, you know, because you voided it. You got rid of it. You unregistered the vehicle.   That contract is void. Gone. Penito.   Penito. Because all courts here is they're all new as Prius courts. They all worked on contract law.   The second thing is the, or the third thing is the,   the correct ID, which would be the, for example, the, passport.   Some people can go as far as, believe it or not, getting an injunction   on their driver's license to extend   the passport   or phrase of do not obtain, do not blah blah, you know, don't screw with me.  

K. For those people, for example, that have to have a license   either for commercial purposes or because their job requires it,   regardless if they're trying to act like the law or not, and you're worried about, okay, if I'm in the work vehicle with their license plate   versus my own personal private vehicle, okay, then   if the injunction is attached to the driver's license number and whatever,   when they pull it up in the system,   it'll say basically the same thing. Don't touch me. No truth me. And it's up to the discretion of the cop and or his superior   if they really wanna push you and give you a ticket and then play the old   phrase. Well, let's play the Kirkus side it. And, you know, again, then you're gonna have to stand on some square or the knowledge that you have because   sometimes the paperwork just isn't enough and needs to wanna screw with you.  

Now the opposite of that, if you don't wanna go through that, is just give her the license period. There are forms to resig it. This was covered Saturday, I believe, by somebody who   said very specifically when he was trying to do it at the DMV or the DMV,   he didn't have the right words, so he couldn't get what he wanted done. And rescission   is the word they're looking for.   On their form, it's either short and simple. I'm hereby revoking this and that.   Sign here here.   Some of them might need a notary or whatever.   But you wanna end that contract   Benito, period. So there's no nexus to it.  

And then on top of that, you want to put in there something to the effect of they need to purge any and all information   directly or indirectly connected to this license number and or license or any record period. It needs to be gone finito period. So when the cop pulls it up,   instead of having information of do not contain or whatever based on some license number, it's not gonna be there.   Think of it like it's m I six or whatever, or Mission Hospital, and you don't exist.   Sure. They don't have a nexus to that. Most cases, they can't give you a ticket. Now, yes, I've heard of people who've never had a license before, a driver's license.   Somehow the cop wrote them a ticket,   and I'm sitting there like, and they're like, good luck. I don't I don't see where that's gonna attach to a bond or anything unless they found out somehow.  

Oh,   this is Jamie's birthday. This is John Doe's birthday. I forget. Okay. We'll we'll bond it through there instead because I don't have   I don't have a driver's license to bond it with.   Now, of course, by staying on your square, you could   go down that route with the whole contract and where where's the license and this and that, da da da da da.   But the point is, if you don't have any nexus or joiner to the contract,   then if they follow the actual laws   or codes, statutes, regulations, blah blah blah,   so called laws,   then you can be left alone.  

And then if you go the next step, I guess, would be number four is okay. Like Joe was talking about earlier earlier.   Technically, the DMV does have a set of certain tags that they can give you   that the police when they run it or the state troopers when they run it or possibly even the border patrol,   it's gonna say in their system something to the effect of, you know,   do not detain, do not pull over, don't don't do a damn thing and and carry on.   Now if they don't do that, then like Joe does, because   even the states they might not know they have that power because when's the last time they really did it?   Remember, there's two of everything.  

You got a public form of government, and then you have the one quasi   democracy, blah blah blah government, if you will.   Just like you have an address or you have a general post address, you know,   versus the ZIP code, no ZIP code, dah dah dah dah. That's why they're supposed to give you that other tag. But if they don't, then we've done the DOT thing.   Just like when you do the the FMCSA   application, which takes twenty, thirty minutes depending on how fast you type and read,   There are two ways to do their application. One is under commercial,   application. And then within the same application, if you answer the questions correctly, when you get to the second to third final page,   which you have to actually screenshot and print off for your records, which they don't tell you, but you're supposed to know that. It's gonna tell you, oh, this is private property, not for hire, not for business,   period period.  

So when the trooper,   who has to be   FMS certified to run it,   can look it up and see, like, okay. Non commercial, not missed, not business, private private,   household goods,   He or she should technically know and understand. I don't have jurisdiction over this because there's no commercial   commerce happening based on the information that is tied to this tag number.   That tag number is not tied to your d to your VIN number whatsoever.   That number should be tied to a trust,   EIN,   when you get the number from the FMFCA.   And then for the address that they want, you know, I put your house address in there. You want to put a PO box address. The reason is because technically, anybody anybody   can have a PO box address, and then even though one person or trusted   registered to the box or whatever,   they can't do service or process at a post office box. That's another good reason why you don't do it if they can't do service or process. Guess what? They don't have personam jurisdiction.  

They may have subject matter jurisdiction to hear the case or whatever, but if they don't have   persona, they can't   they can't do any case.   They they need subject matter jurisdiction, subject jurisdiction, and then persona jurisdiction.   They don't have all three. Technically, they can't do anything in court.  

[04:17:41] Unknown:

So Can I ask can I ask you a question real quick, though? When you do that, right, when you get that deal when you get the DOT thing that I I I did that with Joe did, But you have to rescind your your you rescind your regular registration   to the DMV. All that stuff has to be rescinded, beforehand. That way, when they do it, there's no tie it does nothing leads you back leads them back to the RMV as a commercial contract.  

[04:18:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Correct? I I just went over that after we're listing. Okay. Okay. Okay.   And so   if you tie all if you, yeah, if you tie the bonds,   not literally the bonds, but, you know, the bonds   to to all these,   quasi contracts contract.   And and only in   that the police understand and know that they don't have any jurisdiction just to even pull you over, let alone let alone.   Give me your license. Give me this. Give me that. Give me that.  

[04:18:34] Unknown:

Now now  

[04:18:35] Unknown:

for folks who are in states that say, we can arrest you if you don't have a license to quote, unquote drive. Now you're wondering,   okay. Let's say   they don't like   your passport or they don't like the passport card. Technically, you only give them the card, not the passport.   The passport card is tied in differently than the passport. That's why we tell people   in your wallet, that is your new ID new ID. Unless you got some tribal ID or some other private ID thing that you you can have that. But as long as you don't have some nexus to the stupid state, you usually start with the driver's license.   One way around that without creating a nexus   to any state system's driver's license, you can get an international driver's license, which is not tied to any system.  

It is protected by UN treaty. It's recognized in over 230   countries worldwide.   Now they have a disclaimer on both companies that make the international license. One, I believe, is more fake than the other, in my opinion.   The IA one is the one you wanna get.   They will trick you on their application saying, well,   you need to put in your driver's license number for this, which will   which will act as the number on this license. Do not use your damn license number on there. You make up some number you pull out of thin air.   You keep the amount of digits the same. If there's nine or 10 or what whatever amount, then you make up nine digits or whatever on the application.  

For the endorsements on that application,   since you have the choice in which vehicle or automobile you will be moving in or upon the highways and byways,   public streets, blah blah blah, technically, postal roads if you wanna get technical.   You make sure that they have all the endorsements that you want. Motorcycle, whether you have it or not. I'm pulling a trailer. Have that endorsement. RV. Have that endorsement.   Bolt. Whatever is available, have it all on there anyway, whether you use it or not.   And then, technically,   when the officer goes hit the fence and I'm gonna jail you because you didn't give me a license in those particular states,   you can give them the international driver's license.  

There's a booklet that comes with it. You'll have to hand him the booklet and the ID card. It will have your photo. It will not have a nexus.   It will have no nexus to your personal address either. That's another thing which they don't have they can't give a jurisdiction on if they don't have it. Why do you think they sometimes ask you if you have a Terry stop on the side sidewalk and you're not in the car?   Give me your ID. What's your date of birth? What's your Social Security number? What's your address? They have to create a nexus to get you. If they don't know you and you don't say a damn thing, what are they gonna do? Yes. Of course, the tyrant ones will just direct you anyway. We'll figure it out when you get down to the,   down to booking. We'll figure it out, you know. And then you gotta   you gotta play your hand. Now sometimes easier said than done. Obviously,   at end of the day, we're gonna pick our own battles. That doesn't mean anybody's weak or more powerful than somebody else who actually had knowledge, and they're just for whatever reason, decided to use it in that particular instance. You know, they're   they're,   they're saying that day is different from some other scenario. You know?  

So, basically, that that's what I do. I I do all three or four,   to get out of the system. And then as a bonus, when you rescind in your driver's license, you can also tell them   to remove you as an employee,   for the DMV DMV. Believe it or not, you are listed as an employee   under the DMV.   It is I forget what section it is, but if you look in any section in any state regarding agricultural,   licensing to some extent.   We are technically stuck under an agricultural license.   And by extension of that, somehow they got us as an employee even though we get no benefits.   Oh, I'm sorry. The DMV is the beneficiary. You're the title owner with all the liabilities. Oh, you get to take care of the oil changes,   fixing the car for $2,000   or whatever,   and you're sitting there like, well, that's not right. I should be the beneficiary. I or I should just be the holder of new course. I'll self govern myself   under my own rights to   once I own and have it, it's my responsibility to take care of it instead of this whole trickery and also the crap that they have you under.  

So   yeah.   Again, I must reiterate just because we do everything right doesn't mean that these tyrant cops or state troopers won't   test you to a point where,   fine. We'll just let the court handle it, and then you better know how to stay in your square. Or you better know in under in under   and comprehend what you're doing. Because then Yeah. Then you gotta deal with how to do court processes.   And one of the first things you should do is an abatement an abatement. There there's court procedures, civil and federal procedures,   processes in how to do things.  

And once you have that frame, then you can study each section and figure, okay. How do I do a motion or how do I do this, that, and other? Okay. What time do I do a motion?   And, technically, you can do an appatement first, file with the motion after or a,   what's the other word?   What? Motions and Motion to dismiss? No. No. No. There's another word. I can't think of that. It's,   petition the court instead of asking the court,   followed with your abatement   because you're putting the abatement in there to abate the   abatement via the jurisdictional issue. That's the one   one of the first things you can do based on, okay, this, that, the contract, whatever whatever standing that you're gonna throw at them in the abatement, and then you're petitioning the court   basically right after that with the same thing to dismiss the case with prejudice prejudice. I'll do it with prejudice so they can't come back and get you later on.  

And then and   you can do what some people have done.   Well, if they win the case,   they purposely make copies of it, and they have it in what they call a travel binder.   So next time the cop pulls you over and you run through all this other crap, and they decide to finally say, well, you're just gonna arrest you and have the courts take care of it. One of the last things you can show up in front of the cop   is, look, I've won this case. In this case, do you really wanna go that route?   And maybe they're not going to want to be because you scared them into, okay, look, I won. I won. I won. I won. Why why waste your time, the court's time, whatever?   Now some people have done where where they get a judgment. Okay. I want $10 or $20 or or whatever the case is.  

And that that's it more   power because it's okay. This person's serious. He might sue us. And then you can remind the officer, well, guess what? Not only are you gonna get sued, you're qualified immunity goes right out the window because guess what?   My papers and and and my counterclaim is gonna counterclaim is gonna be real simple. It's gonna be in your personal capacity.   Can you afford an attorney, lawyer,   you know, this, that, and the other? And they might think twice because if they know and understand what you're talking about,   that you can sue them in their private personal capacity, they're they're gonna be  

[04:25:57] Unknown:

at the well a little. You know? Can can I ask you a question yet real quick? Just a quick one.   Yeah. I went I had a situation with a traffic citation in Massachusetts, and what they did is they they I went to appeal it, and they and they for me to appeal it, they put me as a responsible party. And then I went to repeal it again. I had to pay another $50.25   the first time. I think the second time it was just a hearing, and I had a motion to dismiss this thing altogether.   And I I made the distinction between with the judge that I'm not the commercial entity. I'm the real living man. And I put on on, you know, all the paperwork submitted to the court. Right? It was stamped. And the judge says, well, I'll evaluate it, and,   I'll I'll you'll send the letter. I'll notify you. And he basically called and said that I was   because I didn't ask the judge.  

Can   anyway, that was where I did a I did a couple hearings, and it didn't do me a good to to put a motion and to dismiss it. I was still found responsible. I thought I said what I had to say to the judge, but it it went above his head or he didn't care.  

[04:27:06] Unknown:

Well, it it depends at at with part of the process that you're that   you're arguing. There are certain times where you don't you're not they're arguing.   Like, when you go to your go to your hearing oh, okay. You know, a traffic court, for example,   The judge pretty wants pretty much wants to know, are you guilty or not guilty? Do you wanna exercise due process? And   and and after you say, I'm not guilty,   I'm on a trial by jury even though they're not gonna give you that.   Then you follow the court processes of the civil procedures or the federal procedures   where okay. At sometime now we start now we start doing discovery. Now we do motions. Now we do abatements. Now we do this, this, that, and the other. Another reason why sometimes they don't listen to you   because you've done the procedure incorrectly   at the wrong time or   they already know it. Right. Yeah. You can argue all this, but I got you because I got you under contract, and you didn't argue the right thing.  



[04:28:01] Unknown:

Right. Right. Because I think that,   you know, I think that they they had, on my registration I don't think a judge had this, but my my registration   in New Hampshire. Right? I got pulled over in mass. The registration says that I I am a commercial commercial entity. But the thing is   if the commercial entity was tied to the all caps and legis name, and if and I told the judge, I'm not I'm driving in the private because I'm not transporting goods or services   with my   in my conveyance. I was traveling traveling. And they got me they got me for being on the phone in in my in my conveyance. You follow me? You follow me? Trying to get you understand that, but but they got you under some commercial thing or or they're also assuming everybody's doing something commercial. Because remember,  

[04:28:44] Unknown:

even though it's not a quote unquote, CDL license that you that your name is attached to, it has classes, right? A b c d provisions for glasses or contact.   Well, right in itself, when you look at the code for   related to driver's license, it's it's   it's a type of commercial,   based on those classes, not necessarily how they redefine class or redefine commercial within commercial by a CDL. But if you get my drift   where they pulled us into why do we need to, give up a right to get our privilege and then being tricked again   by the contract or the quality contract where by doing that, you agreed to follow all the safety rules and whatever of   said roads that they supposedly own.  

And then on top of that,   since it's not your car,   oh, you got a blinker up or I'm pissed off. I'm the cop in the movie who takes my baton and beats your car up and says, oh, sorry. You got a blinker up or or some other crap like that. Because remember, it's their property. They want you to take care of it. They wanna know where their property is. Oh, you gotta shovel license plate on there so we can track it with block cameras   and ring cameras and also the crap that they got now or those things that are on the cop cars that run every single,   tag to figure out if it's expired and they come get you and give you a ticket and all that other crap.  

Yeah. So we wanna get out of all that voluntarily. Just like Roger said, everything is   basically voluntary.   It may not say in black and blue and white and every other color because that's just not how they do it.   They'll   pay it in such legal lease or fork tongue   that we have to figure out what the hell they're talking about. Like, there's numerous places within the IRS manual and some of the other   sections because there's 56,   USD   codes or 52, something like that, but 26. And then you got the alcohol's back was in another one.   But in there, you'll find out in some of their publications, it's volunteer.  

Voluntary.   Voluntary.   And then even you'll get people at C SPAN that have been working for the IRS, or they'll be at congress getting hammered by Kennedy or whoever calling out their bullshit bullshit. And literally, they'll tell the camera in the world or The United States Of America or US, whoever they're talking to,   such and such is based on voluntary compliance. Voluntary compliance, voluntary compliance. Okay. Now now that they said that, you're like   you're like voluntary in what context? And then people need to understand   what do they mean by voluntary.  

Because the word, I think, is convoluted and twisted compared to the,   the standard dictionary eighteen twenty eight Webster's or whatever you're using in in common man. By contract.  

[04:31:33] Unknown:

Yeah. They volunteer it by contract.  

[04:31:35] Unknown:

Right. Like the ten forty confession form.   I call it the confection form because   the big issue on the ten forty is not really the ten forty in itself. It's the line right above your signature says, under penalties of perjury, I, you know, I swear my life blah blah blah this and that, and it's all all honest to god truth. Even if there's a typo on there and you add a comma in one of the wrong sections and you've done your math wrong, and all of a sudden you're claiming 10,000 instead of a thousand dollars. Oh, no. Privilege filing, $5,000   under this, that, and whatever else code and then, you know, slap you with that crap.  

Or it'll go as far as as far as   people having to fight in a tax court because literally that is what it is is,   we think you've profitedly claimed this, this, this, and that. And now you gotta defend yourself where okay. How do I honestly say that I didn't do this with the intent of a, b, c, and d?   Mhmm. And then if you know and understand who Joe Bannister is, read his book.   He had some Oh, yeah. Bannister. Yeah. Yes. He he's admitted, and I think he's not the only one.   One of the best ways that they can only drag you into tax court   is if they have the ten forty confectioner form on file for the year that they wanna get you   for. Reason is because the penalties of perjury starts the $5,000   fine and five years of jail and blah blah blah and, of course, they tack on some other charges. Like, you need to collect any other forms. Right?  

Yeah. If they don't have that, how   banister pretty much says,   we we we can't really criminalize you because you decided in our penalties of perjury. If you see some of their other forms, like, the forty eight fifty two,   which I did not bring up the other day when I think was Larry or another somebody else talking about taxes.   That is another way to get your funds back. But what I'm getting at in this example,   if you look at the versions over the last ten years of the forty eight fifty two,   I believe, if I recall right,   they finally took off the section where you sign it under pains and penalties of perjury.  

And I'd rather have the power in my own hands and my mind to understand If I wanna turn this into an affidavit, I will do it by my own choice, not because I'm forced to, because it's written above the signature line and you gotta sign this and that.   I'm not a fan of the ten forty for that reason and other any other form that forces you to find something that accounts as   perjury. Even though the d s 11 is the same thing, you'd have to sign that at the post office when they tell you to, and then they'll send it off. Blah dee blah dee blah.   That's right. But   for the purpose of the tax thing on ten forty, like Joe says, and he's pretty adamant about I mean, he was what an agent for ten, fifteen years or whatever it was.  

We really can't get you if there's no ten forty on file   with your signature,   obviously. Now, obviously, there's provisions in the code. I figured where off top of my head, I've read them where somehow they give them their their own power to well,   Hans Smith, we don't have a   an income return for 2015.   And then they send you all those mail letters and you're supposed to respond blah blah blah, and if they don't like your response.   They'll use that little code section that says, oh, we'll we'll file the ten forty on your behalf. And I'm sitting there like,   how is that possibly legal?  

Let alone lawful because   are you gonna sign that perjury line? I doubt it.   And, basically, what happens when it adds to the master file, there's gonna be a ghosted ten forty,   which I personally think would be illegal or whatever. I'm like, well,   how how can you get me for filing taxes or not filing when I didn't submit voluntarily to do it? Not because I want to evade taxes   as a tax evader.   I'm using what the IRS calls this tax avoidance, which perfectly is legal   in their   own publications   and the IRS code,   which it pretty much defines you have the ability to   because either defer or   diminish   the tax liability   for this, that, and the other. And that's that's what you're doing. I would say, okay. I've   taken my own understanding based on this code or that code to the IRS that, oh,   I do not function   in the form of a public office for The United States.  

It says in your terms under $77.00   1 of terms of 26   USD $77.00   1 and a few others depending on what code you're looking at   And what section like alcohol in the backwoods have has a different definition section.   The main one that we're talking about title 26 should be seventy seven zero one, give or take. And you go look up what the employer is, what is employee,   and you're gonna find out their definitions are not what the layman man thinks it is. Where they all think, oh, yeah. I owe my duty to god in the country   and gotta give you all this tax money. No. It's all horseshit   because   they think you are a government agent working for the federal government or within its territories like Guam,   Puerto Rico,   I think the Virgin Islands, and then that other island.  

And, basically, your so called income source is not connected to any of those or being a public office.   And they hate it when you throw that at them and you do it correctly where it's not considered frivolous.   Because what better than to use your own words against them and their own definitions? What are they gonna do? Sit there and argue it? They can't.   I mean, they'll try, but they can't,   technically. This doesn't mean people have not lost. People have done, they have lost. We'll look at there's books out there and there's articles about   even the IRS publicates,   these are the   insufficient   or   b s, if you will, arguments that we don't recognize it because they're frivolous arguments. And then when you read it and you understand it, you can maybe see what they're talking about.  

But   it's hard to argue when you copy paste. This is what your definition says.   Not only the Internet says it all have a physical publication of the IRS book, which is, you know, 50,000 pages long or whatever, intersection, whatever. Copy paste, highlight it, exhibit one. You know, exhibit two, exhibit three. Okay. Where where can the IRS   or agent Smith here prove that I   hold a position in public office? Do I have an oath on office?   I mean, on record?   No. I don't. Okay.   So   and this is it. For all intents and purposes, I don't make a wage because it's defined as this, this, and that. I don't make income because it's considered this, this, and this based on their definitions.   Therefore, my tax avoidance is zero point zero zero for all intents and purposes.  

Now if I work for the government or I was working for the Navy, the Army, the Air Force,   the   I believe the National Guard would fit in there somewhere.   Now that I'm holding a position within the federal government,   yes, I have to pay the stink intact.   That is one of the reasons why you would have to pay the tax. There are folks out there that said, I think it's about 90% of   the people   that are laboring within the   small f state,   as in small f states   of the union of the 50 or 48, depending on how you look at it, do not owe the income tax because of that reason. Now people argue that the income tax is illegal because they're not understanding what's what they did in it.   What they did in it is okay. They can control what they've what they've created. Okay. They created the fourteenth,   the thirteenth, fourteenth, sixteenth, fifteenth, so on and so forth, you know, so called amendments, whatever, even though, you know, that's the other story that they're all bullshit.  

Okay. I can control   what I created. Okay. Well,   when you read the tax codes and the definitions, okay. Well, I technically say they're within their purview.   When they created this, you work for them. Okay. You are taxed.   Okay. Well, you didn't do this. You're not this. It it doesn't apply to you. Or like when Roger says, Okay, I owe her a duty based on the definition of person   who has rights and duties and owes allegiance to this and that and that that that that I'm like, Okay, well, if I'm not part of that, then it doesn't it doesn't   doesn't pertain to me with the exception of what Roger says. There are two parts in the IRS that   would be   included based on the title that we have as nonresident alien.  

And, again, like he says, it's for all intents and purposes for the tax only. You don't go out here and say, I'm a nonresident alien, and they don't know in what context the hell you're talking about. They probably think you're an illegal get get on the van where we're gonna call ice on your ass.   So,   sorry for that long ramble, but there it is.   Questions? Anyone?   Or  

[04:40:52] Unknown:

What about a government retirees?  

[04:40:56] Unknown:

What is the source of income?   Now I use income loosely, by the way. Don't don't think I'm using the IRS definition.   Which way are you getting paid?  

[04:41:21] Unknown:

I OPM,   office of personnel management.  

[04:41:25] Unknown:

I'm sorry. Was it a civilian job or governmental? Or  

[04:41:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   Government well,   GS.  

[04:41:35] Unknown:

But Well, if you're getting paid by the federal government, they are probably taking out taxes because you hold that position.   If you work for the government   or   an enclave of the government, the federal government, not the state government,   then you you are in that 2%   of the 98% that don't owe taxes   according to your own tax rules and and and how it's worded in their definitions.  

[04:42:02] Unknown:

Even if What about  

[04:42:04] Unknown:

So if you retired ten years ago,   why would you even   why would you even file taxes?  

[04:42:12] Unknown:

Well, you gotta understand there's a difference between paying taxes and filing taxes   in the concept of, okay, am I filing to get credits back,   or am I filing to   pay a tax that I think that I owe, if that makes sense?   Like, I'll give you an example.   Filing for the benefit of yourself,   let's talk about credit cards.   Let's say you got a limit of 10,000 a month,   and you don't want to abandon   said property when you understand what we're talking about earlier on   on securities and stuff.   And when you're doing a barter exchange, the barter exchange is I give them a security instrument, I e the application,   in order for them to access   as a middleman to the treasury to get my credit in the form of a credit card.  

I would file a ten ninety nine a for that year and a ten ninety nine b and a ten ninety nine c.   Ten ninety nine a, it says for abandonment or requirements or acquiring   basically the credits.   Well, if you don't do it, AMX will do it every three years on your   unbeknownst behalf and steal the credits and claim the credits   for that year and every   subsequent year after that in in groups of three. They have they have three years to do it. They have to let you have three years also, but you can beat them to the punch. They can put the claim in, but they can't claim it until three years.   And basically, you would on the a,   you take $10,000   for the credit line, multiply it by 12   for that year. That's how much you're claiming.  

The b, you're bartering the same thing because they're an exchange of   credits.   They're taking care of it   on the private side and bringing it to the public. So there's no mixing of private and public funds   in the form of credit slash credit cards, which means, obviously, I swipe it. They get   magical money on a computer screen to go to their   to their screen.   And you know, whatever you spent is whatever you spent see is canceling the debt.   You don't want to inflate any more debt to the national debt as possible.   You as the debtor and the public need to balance the books. This is all about   balancing the books and canceling the debt that you owe for the year. Technically, you do it in quarters, but let's say you're not there yet and you're not doing it under trust.  

Trust, you file it quarterly.   Technically,   most people wait a whole year before they file their taxes on on a ten forty.   But long story short, if you do all that correctly and you get the correct OIDs for the I mean, the the correct acoustic number for the ten ninety nine b,   my fractional   reserve   practices and banking, whatever you put on the b normally is supposed to be times 10.   For the intensive purposes or the example is 10,000 on the credit card times 12, that's 120.   120   times 10, $1,200,000   you're bartering   of your credits on the on the B.  

And the C is whatever debt that you've inquired with   respect to the limit. Let's say you've spent $5 this month, next month, 2,400,   whatever it adds up to, that goes on a ten ninety nine c canceling the debt.   And what's supposed to happen is if everything is done correctly, along with an OID, that's very dangerous form, but it's got to be done right with the right coup system, this and that.   You should be able to get   the amount that you bartered and credits to show up on your,   transcript. And then there's other forms that you've got to file, whether it's a 40 or ten forty one   to quote unquote pull down the credits in the form of a check or a direct deposit to your accounts.  

Yeah.   Because   as people like to say, things are prepaid under 18 USC   eight, I think, give or take.   Okay. If that's true and it's written in there, how do I balance the books to make sure that's right? Well, this is how you do it. We've all heard probably the old,   you need to learn your ABCs. Well, they weren't kidding.   Not only is it a song of ABC 123, whatever, and Michael Jackson, this and that. It literally is talking about October a b and c.   Once you pull down the credits, again, you're supposed to be able to get that money back to source since they can't put it back in the trust   or connect it to the Social Security account or   in any relationship to the beneficiary trust called the SEC QB trust, it's got to go back to you. Now since the treasury can do all that, they can convert the private side to the public so you're not mincing,   public and private funds. But, obviously, if you're dealing with the 1041,   those credits need to go into a trust account. So you're not mingling   the funds. And, obviously, ten forty   is not trust fund.  

And then you get a check and then, you know, opt your you know,   on your way. And because you didn't abandon the credits or anything, the natural debt does not go up. The natural debt of $38,000,000,000,000   is money is that we're the people are supposed to be collecting. For example, in the form of those   coupon bonds that you find on the bottom of your   so called bills.   It's technically a bill, but they left off the t in front of the bill.   Now some of them have tricked you and it's just a statement. Well, technically, it's a statement too.   But what kind of statement is is what you gotta ask yourself. Yes.  

The coupon bond is is a positive number because it's it's   technically a payment.   You look in any of your agreements on your credit card agreements or your   mortgage agreement or your car agreement, it says we promise to pay or something to that effect,   such and such on the fifteenth of every month or the tenth or the thirtieth or whatever.   Technically, they're telling you what they're doing. By law, they're supposed to pay you the interest. Well,   I don't know how their math works, but usually the interest that they owe   you plus or minus is always the exact number of of of your supposed loan or whatever. I I find that kind of funny, but that's what it is. But because they technically owe you the interest   for the barter exchange, which is the security that you sold them because they are bank, banks are in the position of buying and selling securities.  

And for that, for it to be   a exchange, okay, I owe you interest because they're borrowing from you. You're the credit. You're the energy. Your life worth   is the backing of the dollar, if you will.   But what they don't tell us is how do we open up a remittance bank account?   Because, technically, that remittance, they're waiting for you to claim that credit.   Even though it says on pretty much every statement, cut here on the dotted lines, fold it, cut it, whatever, and and send it back to us. They want to do that so   they considered abandoned. They have evidence that you abandoned it,   and they can go claim the credits within the the three year limit every three years,  

[04:49:19] Unknown:

and double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip. How many other dips they gotta do? They do it, and they keep doing it. But the credit the credit goes in. Right? Goes into the fund, and it's debited off the prepaid account. Correct? Goes in as a credit, but it's debited off the prepaid account. That's how you can tend to payment and discharge debt.  

[04:49:37] Unknown:

Yes. But like Joe said, even though we do it right for some of the examples that he he talked about,   and you're gonna be fighting an animal   because they don't wanna do it. They wanna know how far you're going to take it. And for credit cards, it's the same thing.   Some of us can get it to work, but it's almost guaranteed within the month or two that follows it.   They're gonna close it because they don't want you to do that. Because think about if it was that easy, you know how many things I would be I'd be buying?   I'll give you an example. Not not not in the sense of being greedy where I want this, I want that. I'd be going to my gold dealership,   slash silver   coin dealership. I'd I'd say give me everything.  

Give me it all. And when you restock, I'm coming back.   Because it it'd be that simple. It's like, okay. I I don't need to worry about trading,   if you will,   my sweat equity life for eight hours a day, forty hours a week at I'm usually $30 an hour blah blah blah and exchanging   time that I can't get back to allegedly pay for something that   my signature is taken care of, and you can only discharge things in bankruptcy, this, that, and the other, and everything's done.   No. They don't like it because they're making a huge benefit off of it, plus we're not supposed to know about it. It would really   wreck the system. Now for people who have been able to do it   consistently without closing stuff, they have different agreements with credit card companies, for example,   where the cards don't close, they're open ended.  

Basically, they just charge every stinking month.   And of course, there's an NDA most likely involved in any of that. So good luck getting that information, but it can be done.   But it still goes back to Yeah, we can still do everything right.   And then we're going crazy in our head, or we blame the guru that tells us how to do it. Somehow it works for them or eight eight students out of 50 and the rest of the students are bitching and screaming because and again, it didn't work. And then use the excuse that here is, well, you didn't work. And I'm kinda sick and tired of that. I'm like,   yes and no. It depends on the situation. But most of the time, you're gonna get pushed back   because   they they can't let the cat out of the box. They can't let   the slaves run free,   because you're you're already gonna know there's gonna be some loud mouth in the group. Not not because they want a gatekeep. It's I gotta tell my friends everything and everything and that that that all of a   sudden, your group of fine finely tuned folks,   obviously, it's not working for them anymore because some blabbermouth ruined it for everybody.  



[04:52:20] Unknown:

It's all Greek to me.  

[04:52:25] Unknown:

Well   Say to me. Yeah.  

[04:52:28] Unknown:

This is Samuel.   For all the years of being here, the one thing that I think universally   seems to work   is the guy or the girl who   does the best job of noticing   is left alone the most.   And talking about all these different subjects and   trying to pick them out and have all the knowledge that you have to attack one at a time.   I really like what Lee Bros did in his declaration of independence.   He universally   wipes it all out   with once paragraph   that you publish in your local paper.   So now you've got, like, an affidavit at the national,   end of it, and you've got your local paper public record.  

And you make that statement in there.   And it I'm also a believer that our our notices aren't strong enough locally.   So just sending them the affidavit, like, to the AG and   the district attorney and the sheriff,   I don't really think that's adequate. I think Yeah. I would attach   exactly who I am, what I am, what I mean by who I say I am, how to spell my name. You know, just go on down the line.   And then, also,   I wanna submit this declaration of independence and my affidavit   so they can see they've been running the paper.   There's certification for that, etcetera.  

Do all this,   registered mail, so there's chain of custody.   So now you're in a position   for them to have to refute   everything   that you've just let them know, and they should have no excuse. And I would think,   a better job of noticing   is something that they really need because   I think they don't understand   most of it.   So it's got to be abundantly clear at it's one of the reason I I drop national as a   as   a a group because   I don't think people know what that is, and they've done a great job of making that the American Samoan. So that always gets in the way for   telling them who I am. So my preference is just going with the state and and being a Californian and not even using the word state or citizen,   just Californian, one of the people,   and I usually put on there a Christian.  

And this is how I wanna be treated.   The and   and and Brough's declaration of independence,   as short as it is,   it covers commerce.   It covers   operation of law.   It covers the democracy   versus the republic.   It's pretty   as concise   a statement   that's universal   that I've ever seen. And, you know, of course, you get it notarized and you publish it in the paper,   for the prescribed time that, makes it a lawful notice in your area,   and you're done   with that part of it. I think local noticing   and   having them understand who you are and what you're basically demanding of them   is   good practice for how you have to handle yourself when you come in contact with them as well.  

So that's   sort of how what I've seen over the years   is people who do a better job of noticing seem to have the best results.   And   I'll leave it at that.  

[04:56:30] Unknown:

What if you don't have a newspaper anymore   at your local level?  

[04:56:36] Unknown:

At least I have They're usually still electronic.  

[04:56:40] Unknown:

That still makes it lawful.  

[04:56:45] Unknown:

There's public bulletin boards too. It doesn't have to be the newspaper. You could do public notice,   at the library, police station, wherever they do that.   However, you do make a good point, Sam. It's really what that other dude was asking,   before.   He was   doing a motion.   You're already in under that jurisdiction   before you even got to do an emotion. You already submitted   to be   the serf. So   you you wanna do the petition like that guy Jimmy was saying. The petition is not if you're gonna do a motion, you actually have to do a motion to be heard or they want they'll just ignore it. So, that I learned from if you're gonna play in legal land. But the deal is when you're giving them notice,   yeah, it's how you do it so you're not submitting to the jurisdiction   being mister or a resident.  

So you wanna make it difficult.   And what you just said is key that nobody mentioned. What do you want? Tell them what you want. You wanna do Connors with me. Here's what I want.   Okay? So so it's you're you're not giving you're not submitting by the way you   carefully   don't give them consent or jurisdiction,   and you're being difficult by what you're putting in writing. If you're in court talking   about I'm not commercial. No. It's gotta be in writing. It's gotta be straight to the point. You don't got me here. You don't got me here. Here's where I got you, and here's where I want if you wanna continue and thank you. And that's said and done. And then you don't vary from that. The key is you ignore whatever they're saying in court to get the jurisdiction missed or whatever have a seat that that that no. You're you just ignore what they say. It's on my notice. Didn't you get my notice? You   nonresponsive   answer to them, and you start talking about your notice, and now you're reading it on the record in the not court of record. So a lot of good points altogether.  

Yeah.   I agree with,   don't be easy prey.  

[04:58:50] Unknown:

Who are you calling, Sam?  

[04:58:54] Unknown:

Okay. Ron Sutton?  

[04:58:57] Unknown:

It it how many of you have read the Declaration of Independence by Brost? His that's what he calls he titles it.  

[04:59:06] Unknown:

Anyone?  

[04:59:07] Unknown:

Let me just read it to you real quick. It's it's so beautiful. I I just love reading it. And I'm I'm gonna file this in the we'll record this at the county level and then I'm gonna publish it in the paper. So it says,   I, John or Jane Doe,   in the name of the almighty creator,   by my declaration of independence,   solemnly publish and declare   my right to expatriate   absolute   my res entrust   to the foreign jurisdiction   known as the Municipal Corporation   of the District of Columbia,   a democracy,   and return to the Republic.   Any   and all   past and present political ties   implied by operation of law   or otherwise   in trust with the democracy   is hereby   dissolved.  

I, John or Jane Doe, have full power to contract,   establish commerce as guaranteed   by the full 10 amendments to the bill of rights,   of the bill of rights to the Constitution   of the lowercase   United States Of America, a republic.   That's it.   But that covers a whole lot.   He wants you to publish that in the paper of record according to statute,   and then stay out of commerce. Only two things he said back then was make sure you don't have an interest bearing   account,   bank account   for local transactions,   and make sure that if you make a payment over state lines that it's a US Postal money order. And that was it.   And I think it covers our local a whole lot better than just our F at Davis.  

But I'm gonna combine   all my documents, including my elodium   and my land patent,   and submit the whole damn thing when I do my notices to like the AG, the sheriff, and and what have you.   And then they don't have an excuse, and you give them a time frame to respond.   And if they don't respond, you tell them, well then, I would see you as an agreement.   And now they got some big hurdles to get over if they wanna pull you into a court, and I would probably gonna stipulate   that I would want a jury of my peers to be held at common law. My name would have to be spelled right,   and the jury of my peers would be other state citizens.  

That kind of thing. You know? So you're clear with them on what you'll accept and what you won't, because we're supposed to be driving the bus, not these dudes.  

[05:02:01] Unknown:

Hey. This is Rich in, Huntsville.  

[05:02:06] Unknown:

When I,  

[05:02:07] Unknown:

when I went in front of the judge   over,   I guess, I was 12 miles over the speed limit.   I,   I asked I asked the judge I told the judge I wanna   I wanna trial by jury.   And the, there was a state trooper,   in the, in the courtroom   standing behind the bailiff,   and   he   he leaned over to the bailiff   and said,   I heard I I could I could hear him.   He whispered in her ear,   what a dumbass. Does he know how much that would cost to have a trial by jury?   And when he and when I heard him say that,   I thought to myself, dang. I better maybe I better plead guilty so,   I can just   you know what I'm saying? So,   anyway, yeah,   the judge set set me down to   get some, I don't know, paperwork. And when I came back up, I I just plead guilty and   had to pay some court   fine of 300 something.  



[05:03:26] Unknown:

I  

[05:03:28] Unknown:

yield. I yield.  

[05:03:36] Unknown:

Yeah. They've streamlined everything in the favor so that it's   an easy easy way to shear shear the sheep. They don't they don't they don't want the common law on the way. On the way.   That's that's why they got rid of it. They got rid of it.   But, technically, that's what you are as a state citizen. You've gone back on time. In time. And you should be in the common law common law.  

[05:04:08] Unknown:

We got an echo somewhere   somewhere.  

[05:04:12] Unknown:

I hear that. It's me.  

[05:04:15] Unknown:

Is it me?  

[05:04:19] Unknown:

Who knows? I can't tell anything tell anything.  

[05:04:25] Unknown:

Well, if you're not talking,   you can yield. I mean,   mute.   Samuel?   Yeah. It's in the book of the high the it's in the book of the hundreds. Right?  

[05:04:38] Unknown:

Which  

[05:04:39] Unknown:

The declaration?  

[05:04:40] Unknown:

The declaration of independence, that's in,   Libros' essay,   USA, the house that nobody lives in. Oh, okay. Thank you. USA, the republic,   the house that nobody lives in. Thank you. And he's basically saying   because everybody became a fourteenth amendment citizen.   And when he says expatriate   in that thing, he's talking about   the joint resolution   they they they passed the day before the fourteenth amendment. It was called the Expatriation   Act.   This was their way of saying, you were given a choice.   You could have expatriated   them,   and   it's   it's something that got covered up.  

That law has been constantly kept alive and changed, and it's got a history where they up updated it a lot   all the way into the nineteen hundreds.   But,   yeah, it   that's what he's saying.   You're expatriating   from   essentially the fourteenth amendment.   But   Burroughs' whole 80 page piece comes down to that paragraph.  

[05:06:11] Unknown:

I got a quick question for you off topic. It'll be a yes or no answer for you. Easy one for you.   If I if I have a if I have a conveyance, right, my my my my automobile is paid for, right, even though technically they say the state may make a claim to it because I've got the VIN number, can I still put that   that,   automobile in a trust   and protect it? I have no payment on it. No bank owns it.  

[05:06:36] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm assuming you put anything in a trust, but not a fan of those either. But so you're probably talking to the wrong guy on that. Well, Joe did it. See, Joe Westingood put his vehicle, you know, it was his conveyance in a trust.  

[05:06:48] Unknown:

And I think the state somewhat can make a quasi contract   state make state a claim that it still belongs to them because of the title associated with it. But I think if you do a rescission of all contracts with the state in regard to your license, registration,   etcetera,   then I think then you can put it in the trust. There's more the the liberty to it then. When when Prose says by operation of law  

[05:07:12] Unknown:

and the democracy,   those are the things he's talking about, all those hidden contracts,   All those hidden contracts that you're not supposed to be able to change.   That's what he's saying in there.   So you're you're telling everybody. You're telling the whole world and your local community   that you're free and clear of all of those things.  

[05:07:35] Unknown:

And that means being a national. Right? Being a the the the natural living man is a national,   right, not a fourteenth amendment citizen.  

[05:07:42] Unknown:

Yes. He's saying in a little different way, and he's doing it locally. We're obviously, we wanna do the first piece of paperwork with the secretary of state.   I never,   I never got I just sent them   my notice, my affidavit. I I never got a a passport. But when I do, I'm gonna make more demands on   how they handle that passport. Like, for instance,   noting that I'm a Christian and that my name needs to be spelled properly.   Now they may not put that in the document,   but like Roger says, whatever is in your record is in your record.   They may not be able to print my upper and lowercase name on that passport,   but I've made the claim, and it's in my file.  

So   thereafter, I believe that,   that's really what it represents.   Things are what we say So is it? We are. And we keep saying we're something else, you know. That's our problem.   That's what they've conned us into is is   being being   creations of men instead of creations of our creator.  

[05:09:01] Unknown:

Samuel, so is is upper and lowercase of your name important to you?  

[05:09:06] Unknown:

Absolutely.   I don't think it's a Christian name.  

[05:09:11] Unknown:

I think it's exactly  

[05:09:13] Unknown:

I I think it's exactly the opposite. I think it's a satanic   name.   It's dead, and that's what Satan wants you. Dead.  

[05:09:23] Unknown:

Are you are you talking about an all upper caps? Is the   is the,   attaching you basically to the fourteenth amendment or slavery or, you know, the Satan's,   just All All all all part of the matrix of it. Yes.   Oh, okay.   Samuel, what about using the middle name?  

[05:09:50] Unknown:

I?   The way I've changed my name and remember when we first filled the w two out, they asked us to put your first, your middle initial, and your last. Right?   Yeah. Of course, everybody did that. Right?   So what does that do? That   that created a trust   that is no longer you.   Because anytime in trust law, anytime you change the name,   you've made a new trust.   Okay?   So   what I'm doing for the future, and this is also be part of my notice and all my   new signatures that are at common law or in common law,   are my first   full middle   and last,   upper and lower case.  

On the signature line,   suri juries   in my full capacity, basically, meaning.   I mean, it for me, it's simple. Get trying to attack any one of their   thousands   of problems   that they've created for us,   just   I I don't have the wherewithal to do it, and I I wouldn't care to do it. It, you know, there's not enough time in a day to   be knowledgeable all these things. So I like these universal things   that declare   that we're not what they say we are. We are what we say we are. Right?  

[05:11:14] Unknown:

That that's what I like.  

[05:11:17] Unknown:

Does, does Paul still have the, the the,   the broadcast up, or did he take it down?  

[05:11:24] Unknown:

I don't know. I don't know.  

[05:11:26] Unknown:

Okay. Because I just came in.   No. It's still up. Show up.  

[05:11:32] Unknown:

Yeah. It's still up, but it's gonna be going down shortly.  

[05:11:36] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I just wanna be able to refer back to, to,   this information. That's all.  

[05:11:45] Unknown:

Uh-huh. Okay.   Yeah. It's still up, but, it won't be for long, really.  

[05:11:55] Unknown:

What's still up?  

[05:11:58] Unknown:

The,   the stream.  

[05:12:03] Unknown:

Five Oh, well, then people have to stop talking for three minutes and then it stops?  

[05:12:09] Unknown:

That ain't happening. Actually actually, I still yeah.   Right.   I actually have the,   the stream up   on Rumble as well.   So it's it's everywhere.   So I guess I could do that. I can take that down. So   so,   let me get back to that. Quick comment. Of course. Quick comment. Yeah. Quick comment. Do it.  

[05:12:44] Unknown:

The the all caps name that you were talking about is, I think, known as a fictitious   name, Ayil.  

[05:12:54] Unknown:

Also considered a warning. Not you. We're at war with these people, and that's how you have to come into court because you can't come in your real name because you're under you're you're   you're   trading with the enemy.   We're the enemy. Something.  

[05:13:10] Unknown:

It's war. Right. War. Something like that. Okay.   So let's do this.   This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Monday edition, and, oh, boy, it has been a barn burner for sure.   One stream,   which was started late,   has been up for four hours and fifty nine minutes and thirteen seconds. Rumble's been up for even longer than that. And I find that the longer the stream,   the lower the listenership   because   people just look at this stream five hours long and they're going, oh, damn. I'm not listening to that.   Even though there was valuable stuff there. So thanks so much for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Rogers sales   on eurofolkradio.com,   Global Voice Radio Network, and rumble.globalvoiceradio.net.  

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[05:14:26] Unknown:

Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.