In today’s Radio Ranch, I opened with network updates and syndication housekeeping, then moved straight into a heated call‑in segment about status, jurisdiction, and the Fourteenth Amendment. Listeners challenged and compared my approach to LB Bork’s “Red Amendment” theories; I clarified why our remedy focuses on the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment and on staying out of court, and I contrasted that with fee‑based, litigation‑heavy routes. We also touched on the Administrative Procedure Act (how different rule types apply), Social Security distinctions (retirement vs. SSI/SSDI), and a concrete example—the federal ruling that overturned the COVID mask mandate as an interpretive rule. Beyond the legal deep‑dive, callers weighed recent headlines, free‑speech platforms, and media influence. We wrapped by re‑centering the mission of this show: practical education toward freedom, clear jurisdictional footing, and respectful discourse—plus a reminder to new students to review the materials at The Matrix Docs before jumping into the fray.
- 'The Matrix Docs' (show resources hub): https://thematrixdocs.com
- Global Voice Radio Network (GVRN): https://radio.globalvoiceradio.net
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- Euro Folk Radio: https://eurofolkradio.com
- Rumble (video platform mentioned): https://rumble.com
- Republic Broadcasting Network (RBN): https://republicbroadcasting.org
- Administrative Procedure Act (U.S. Code, 5 U.S.C. Chapter 5): https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-I/chapter-5
- Health Freedom Defense Fund (plaintiff in the federal mask‑mandate case): https://healthfreedomdefense.org
- U.S. District Court, Middle District of Florida (venue for mask‑mandate ruling): https://www.flmd.uscourts.gov
- Social Security Administration — Retirement Benefits: https://www.ssa.gov/retirement
- Social Security Administration — Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI): https://www.ssa.gov/disability
- Social Security Administration — Supplemental Security Income (SSI): https://www.ssa.gov/ssi
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[00:02:21] Unknown:
Alrighty. And, boy, we would do in a positive direction. It's going in a little negative direction, but we might could edge it over just a little bit, Paul. We don't control it. We might can manipulate it. We'll see if we can get enough people waking up here at the old Radio Ranch. Our job is to see if anybody out there wants to remove themselves from real Jew and fake Jew slavery. That's what we're here for. And, Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. The name, label, title of our little two hours together, sometimes slightly more.
And, of course, the date stamp today is the second day of the very interesting month of October. So there we go, Paul. That's the, specifics out of the way here at the front end. Could you come in and give our, our our our friends and associates who help us extend our reach a little bit, give them credit and recognition that they deserve, please.
[00:03:20] Unknown:
Of course, I can. Thank you, Raj. We're on radiosoapbox.com as will Paul English live at 3PM today beyond radiosoapbox.com and w b n three two four and, other platforms. Hopefully, you'll have Rumble working this week. Last week, Rumble didn't work. So, yeah, it was really strange. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. You're on one zero six point nine WVOU FM in Chicago, as well as homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, and stream life.tube. Those are brought to us by the Net family of broadcast services driven by WDRN productions, Fort Collins, Colorado, among other networks.
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[00:04:48] Unknown:
My goodness. It's getting a lot of You'd think with all that that we're getting, we're we're getting financing from some NGO or something, wouldn't you? Yep. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. That's false. Don't think that. That's not true.
[00:05:00] Unknown:
And we I keep forgetting. Yes. We're also on Soapbox TV on the GVRN live channel, and we're also on Rumble on my, on my PG Beanery goodness. Rumble channel. My big gun. We're all over.
[00:05:14] Unknown:
That's right. Well, TV. Well, I hope I'm looking to see if my camera's on. You know, I'm not a big, video's fine. I but just seeing watching somebody talk, I wanna hear what they gotta say. Right. And besides, as I've mentioned many times before, Paul, I'm a radio guy through and through RF going through my veins, and, it's a wonderful medium. I've always been in love with it and, tickled to death to hear at the tail end of my, existence here. I don't know how long that's gonna go. Hopefully, he's got a long way ahead of it, but, I'm just thrilled to be back. Not only with this life changing information for people, but, but doing something I really love, which is radio. So, very cool. You know, when I was a smacky mouth disc jockey back then and got out of it, I I made the choice. I came to the, you know, it's the old proverbial fork in the road. Right?
And, I mean, there are these guys that because I lived in a resort town, Panama City there, Florida. And, they, these guys that work for these labels that were supposed to influence guys, you know, lobbyists in the music industry, basically. And they love to come to the beach, man. And Panama City's got is a stunning beach. Literally, one of the wealthy people in town a hundred years ago took a trip around the world, but they intentionally went to every white sand beach in the world and got samples, and they came back and had it analyzed. And the those sands that are in that 90 miles are the widest beaches in the world. K? Mhmm.
And, so, being at that the, the case, these guys like to come down, hang around the beach. They take us out to wonderful dinners. The splendid restaurant there, captain Anderson's, a legend of a of a restaurant's been it had been if you know the magazine Southern Living, pretty sophisticated magazine, and, they were the number one seafood restaurant in the Southeast for, well, over fifteen or twenty years straight and maybe even so today, but it's a fabulous restaurant, especially if you like seafood. So they'd like to come down. We'd always have them take us out to Camp Anderson. They'd take us out fish and marlin fishing and all that stuff. Never got one. But, then I had to come to the stark realization of, man, is this what I wanna do in my life? And and I chose that path.
Got it and accomplished it. Took a couple of years. Got, moved to Atlanta and stuff. And then after I got in that side of the business, oftentimes, I'd think back to, man, I wish I'd have stayed in radio. I wonder where I would have gone in radio. And and then this talk radio became a big deal. I thought, man, I wonder if I'd be good at talk radio. And, here we are, and I love it. And I love all of you guys, and I love being able to take this powerful information that we've been bequeathed with because, I guess the good lord, and help, those who are interested to change their own lives and their attitude and become re empowered and have those full powers, that you were supposed to be granted at birth that were stolen from you. Just as soon as soon as your big toe got out of mama's birth canal, they threw that blanket of slavery right over you, and you've been agreeing with them ever since. Well, this is the day of demarcation. If you're new, you can cut you can change all that. They can't say a word about it. You got the power. You don't know it. And, that's what we try and do is show you truth here. And should you wanna con you know, follow.
Oh, we don't ever make you. I don't say If you don't follow that affidavit, don't ever come back again. I don't ever say anything like that. But, so that's what we're here for. I hope we got some new folks out there maybe with questions. That's the reason Paul and I get up early, kinda early, and, to do this on a six day a week basis. So, anyway, I was telling Paul right before we went on the air, I saw a snippet this morning. There was a, shooting last night in England. I mean, a shooting last night is not a big deal. You think it's The US, but this is jolly old England, and they have bobbies.
And they don't carry weapons. They carry night sticks and all that good stuff. Well, evidently, they've got a small little cadre, a little, a little division or a little a few people that are armed and marchmen, and, they got it appeared to be some Muslim that was stabbing people, and they shot his ass last I guess, in the daytime over there earlier today. So, that's all I heard was a snippet this morning. I thought that's pretty, you don't hear shootings in England very often. You hear a lot of stabbings, people driving cars up on the sidewalk and mowing people down down and all that kind of stuff. But you don't hear about too many shootings, do you, Paul? No.
[00:10:14] Unknown:
It is the whole world is going crazy. It just is.
[00:10:20] Unknown:
They they are in turmoil
[00:10:23] Unknown:
all over the place. Oh, yeah. Well, I think it's Starmer doing that.
[00:10:27] Unknown:
Well, it is Starmer. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Guess behind guess who's behind it? Who's behind it? Tony Blair. Tony Blair is the one oh, Tony Blair is the one that's been coming out with the, digital ID stuff and pushing that. Guy out of nowhere, his son has for, I guess, a number of years, started the company that's going to either manufacture or integrate somehow with those, systems they're putting in. So his son is set up for kingdom. You know who you know who's Tony Blair was really good friends with? Was Gaddafi. And boy did he stab his good friend and Gaddafi right in the frigging back. Okay. Yes.
So anyway, the world continues to spin, would seemingly be out of control. We try and bring that back and focus it and go biblical and go Revelations eighteen, three or four, whatever it is. Come out of her, my people. Come out of her. Twice, it says it. Fortress, I believe. And there's Larry. Larry, how are you doing this morning?
[00:11:39] Unknown:
Good. Good morning. Have you heard the, the latest plans of BB?
[00:11:46] Unknown:
BB. I don't know if I have, I don't know that I have, Larry. I mean, the wacko psychopath murdering son of a bitch. What's the what's his latest plans?
[00:11:59] Unknown:
Yeah. This is from a couple of days ago. Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu admitted Friday that his government views social media platforms as a weapon to Yeah. To support Israel's right wing in The US amid condemnation for ongoing Israeli genocide in Gaza in a meeting with US influencers at Israel's consulate general in New York and published in a video on influencer Deborah Lee's account on The US social media company X. Netanyahu describes social media as the most important weapon to secure our base in The US.
[00:12:41] Unknown:
He identified TikTok. Uh-huh.
[00:12:45] Unknown:
He identified TikTok as the most important purchase going on right now, alleging its control could be consequential. Netanyahu also mentioned x saying we have to talk to Elon Musk. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. He claimed that if influence could be secured over TikTok and x, Israel would get a lot. That was a quote. Get a lot. Yeah. On Thursday, US president Donald Trump signed an executive order certifying that a deal that would shift TikTok's US operations to an American consortium meets national security requirements mandated by a domestic law. Trump said the investor consortium will be comprised of tech company, Oracle, Michael Dell, Rupert Murdoch, and others.
Oracle founder Larry Ellison's years of open support for Israel has sparked concerns that the company's authority over TikTok will be used to benefit the Israeli government. Almost done. Netanyahu's remarks came as Israel stands increasingly isolated over its genocidal war in Gaza where nearly 65,000 Palestinians, the vast majority of women and children have been killed since October 2023. One more sentence. Netanyahu spoke to a largely empty hall in the fifth in the eightieth session of The US or the UN General Assembly after many delegations walked out in protest of Israel's genocide in Gaza now nearing its third
[00:14:27] Unknown:
year. Okay. I saw the clip of that meeting. Hold on just a second, Rick. I saw the clip of that meeting at least twice. Very attractive Jewish gal sitting across the table from, Netanyahu. He did say those remarks. They've already got a whole system in place on TikTok. From what I understand, they just took it over a couple of days ago. Larry Ellison is the single largest contributor to the IDF in the world. K? And, yes, he did say those things as verbatim, what I saw. And, yeah. Well, you know, as I said, I've never felt comfortable with social media.
When they oh, you gotta get a Facebook account on. No. No. I don't have to have one because I don't want one. I'm not that type of a person. I don't go out and hang my dirty laundry, clean laundry, anything else out in front of the public. They're just I just I'm just not that kind of person. I know it would help us and this project a lot if we were, but I'd almost rather not be on there and have our own little island here, which we can defend at all the shoreline, and move forward with the people that, that's why I try and get y'all talk to people. Talk to people. Let's get word-of-mouth spread and, see, that's the way it's gotta be. K? So, anyway, although Mark says we could set up an x account and do it with robots, and I'll respond and everything else with robots, I'm just I don't have any desire to be on any social media.
And I had somebody people that were helping me early, some of the people that stole from me, Paul, early on. The girl was real good at Facebook, and she set me up a a Facebook account over there. I never answered anybody or had I never even signed on to the thing. And and just I just don't like it. K? Just not me. Put it that way. So anyway but that is a big deal for them, and they're, they're gonna try and influence Elon, hopefully, they won't be able to. He is letting the Israeli information evidently flow over there. I've never been to x either outside of some of the links y'all send me. So, anyway, well, thank you, Larry.
Rick, you're trying to say something? I think that was you.
[00:16:54] Unknown:
No. Sketch. And, Sketch. Good good morning.
[00:17:02] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Well, I go I go.
[00:17:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm just thinking, you know, this is a conversation and, reading an article that for that long is kind of hard on the hearing for me at this early. It is. And It is. You know, you can have a conversation about the topic, and it's much more, I think, enjoyable.
[00:17:23] Unknown:
I I totally agree with that, Larry, if you could, and I know you wanna read stuff. But if you could preread it and then just give us a synopsis, it'd be easier on the show because it is hard to follow all that stuff. And, but we appreciate you bringing the info. And, yes, true. Yeah. So so did anybody else have yes, Sketch.
[00:17:42] Unknown:
The topic was good, but, yeah, I thank you for making the point. And there's nothing like walking on the beach and hearing the squeak squeak squeak.
[00:17:54] Unknown:
I'm just That's right. I do. And that's what and that's what happens. They're in that 90 mile stretch between, just a little bit East of Pensacola or Pensacola, West of Pensacola, all the way over to, oh, Mexico Beach, Florida, which is East of Panama City there. It's 90 miles. The reason for that, Skesh, do you know the reason for that, by the way?
[00:18:18] Unknown:
I I don't know the reason, but I know it got it has gotten farther away from the the Mississippi River. So I don't Well, the, is not there anymore.
[00:18:29] Unknown:
That part of the Panhandle is made up of a lot of now I know now my mind's not wanting to play with me. It's made up of a lot of, oh, Roger, please, of a certain type of, of of of dirt that silicone that becomes bleached out in the sun. And that's why it's so white, and it's very, very fine. And that's why it squeaks under your feet. Limestone. And if you go on up into the Panhandle Of Florida above the coast a little bit, they've got caverns and stuff. And that's very characteristic of limestone because the water erodes it and you can go spelunking with with scuba gear and all that stuff up there. So that's why it is like that. But, boy, walking on the beach there, if you've never been there, it's like, the the sand literally squeaks under your feet because it's so fine.
So, anyway, okay. Who else got something to add? Nobody. We got a little quiet group this morning. Are there any new students? Because that's why we get up early is to see if you're here. And, if you you're not here, then we'll take, the advantage of having this time to discuss these important issues and discuss them with a brain trust, basically. But, and and if you don't show up and ask questions, that's what we're gonna do. So that's, where we are at the at the point of the show this morning. So if there's any new folks, is Todd? Todd back with us? I think he got home yesterday. I hope he's with us. Hope he's getting a little bit better.
[00:20:05] Unknown:
I think he's actually tuning in. I do too. Yeah. I mean, if he can't join us, I hope he's tuning in.
[00:20:12] Unknown:
Now we haven't seen our mysterious visitor from the East yet, so I guess that isn't gonna happen. Maybe. Thank goodness. Can you Well, I can hear you. Still. I can hear you right there. Who are you?
[00:20:24] Unknown:
Hi. This is Ed Seiner from Atlanta, Georgia.
[00:20:28] Unknown:
Ed. The most Well, hey. From the East.
[00:20:31] Unknown:
Oh,
[00:20:32] Unknown:
from, from Atlanta, Hotlanta,
[00:20:36] Unknown:
Yes, sir. And I've never, I've never been on your show before. I had, I had studied a book last year by LB Bork, the the red amendment. And, apparently, he had done a lot of research about the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments or what we call the war amendments. And it just so happened that I coincided with his with with what he was saying in the book because I was studying the, you know, the the redistricting, because once I learned the what the evil meant in district, you know, I started looking to back to the beginning to see when the districting started, and it was during that war.
[00:21:22] Unknown:
Not at all. Anyway,
[00:21:23] Unknown:
I had suggested that he talk with the republic's call. I was able to get a hold of him after I read his book, and, essentially, I told him I thought he was a genius. Okay. Because I understood the other side of it. So Yeah. Anyway, I think he's on here somewhere. I I wanted him to talk to you about, you know, his book or and if there was any questions. I don't know if you guys knew each other earlier or not. Did you know him before?
[00:21:52] Unknown:
I have never spoken with him. I've heard him a couple of times over the years. I think he's a PA Y Triad for charging a $100 for his book for the last twenty something years. And it's my understanding that he won't explain any that he won't explain anything that he does is unless you pay him. Those are my understandings. No. I've never spoken with mister Bork. We both take different approaches. Can can you let me talk, sir? Can I can I talk, please? He he he, has been around for a long time. I don't haven't heard him very much. I hear his name mentioned every, now and then. As I've tried to tell Daryl and these people that are forcing this on us, like, like you're trying to introduce here, mister Bork and I don't have really anything in common.
Okay? I mean, I mean a different sense. Well, I don't know about all that. I'm here to free people from Jewish slavery. Okay? And that's what I've been doing for over fifteen years. Alright? Doesn't matter to me. Necessarily, I'm not even sure there you know, and what we do and study around here that, well, I I try and tell people to vote and register and vote locally, but we don't, we shouldn't be voting in federal elections because we're state citizens. All politics is local, and I guess that's important, but not in the light of what we do around here. Your name was Ed. Right?
[00:23:18] Unknown:
That's correct.
[00:23:19] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Ed, what part of Atlanta do you live in? What part of it? Excuse me. What what part of Atlanta do you live in, if I could ask?
[00:23:27] Unknown:
I live in the South Of Atlanta. I'm about at 45 in the south of the airport. Peachtree City, Newnan around there? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, in a little town called Williamson.
[00:23:39] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I lived in Atlanta for thirty years, so I do know the area fairly well.
[00:23:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I was born here in '66, so I've been here quite a bit. Yeah. I've been I've been around. I've been to California and Alright. I've been to many, many, many different, court venues throughout The States in my Okay. In Atlanta. Good. So I guess that's good. Well, yeah. I just wanna make one correction, though. He doesn't charge a $100 for his book. He only charges $60 for his book. Okay. Used to be a 100. And it's a 354 page book.
[00:24:14] Unknown:
Okay. Now does he charge you to go through his, through his process?
[00:24:19] Unknown:
He does have a process. I have not seen it, you know, because I haven't had time to go through that part of it, but I read his book. And the book is what I what I was really impressed with. The the the amount of insurance, you know, the amount of information that he had in there about those war amendments was something I've never seen anywhere else before.
[00:24:43] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, that's not our focus here. You know, that we never talk about the fourteenth amendment more than the first sentence, Ed. That's the only part of the fourteenth amendment we use. And I understand mr. Bork uses something deeper into the amendment. I don't know where he found something and it's very complicated. It's going to cost you a thousand dollars or more to go through it. That's all I've ever heard. I've heard him say things on the air on a interview, over on RBN that things like, hey. I could straighten this whole thing out in two or three months. I guess that's if everybody in the country paid it well. Hold on. If everybody it doesn't sound like he wants to affect change. I'm here to affect change. That's why I don't charge people. K?
So mister Bork and I don't have very much mister Bork and I do not have very much in common, and I don't want to have a discussion on him because we come at this from different angles, and we have totally different motives. I wanna change the world. He wants to have a business. K? Those are different.
[00:25:47] Unknown:
Well, I wanna I wanna change the world too, Roger.
[00:25:50] Unknown:
Okay. Good. Well, you need to hang around a little more than that, Ed.
[00:25:54] Unknown:
I gotta get outside of the district before I can do that, though.
[00:25:57] Unknown:
Well, it's very easy to do that. It's an expensive, Ed, it's expensive, nonconfrontational. They can't say no, and there's nothing to getting out of the district. Okay? That's what we teach around here. So what I if that's your primary concern, then you need to hang around and listen. Maybe go to the, website, our website. My book on there is free, by the way. And, it's been hailed as a masterpiece. The guy that edited it has won a a court at the supreme case of the supreme court. And, you might wanna look into that a little bit. There's a number of interviews over there. John b Wells and and several others are very, very insightful.
They'll tell you what we do, and we don't have anything. I I can't see much in common with what mister Bork does with what we do.
[00:26:49] Unknown:
Well, can I can I just espouse why I feel like the district is a is a big thing in the social security? We know why it is. It's the federal it's the federal zone. We know all that here. You don't have to educate us. Okay. Well, LB, you out there?
[00:27:07] Unknown:
Question. Oh, man. No. Question. Question. You guys are just damn hell bent to get LB Bork and me here on an unproductive discussion, aren't you? We don't want a productive discussion. We want a productive discussion. You you can't have a productive discussion with somebody that won't discuss until you pay them.
[00:27:29] Unknown:
I have a question. Yes. Ed, have you ever listened to any of Roger's stuff?
[00:27:38] Unknown:
No. I don't know the man. Okay. Okay. Well, I've got read the book in LB Bork. Listen. Well, this isn't, this isn't the LB Bork show, and it isn't about LB Bork's book. It's about my findings and a hundred years of three men's lives of historical and legal research. That's what this show's about.
[00:27:59] Unknown:
You know, I gotta be honest with you, Roger. On my first, interaction with you, you know, when when I first called LB, I thought he was a little angry. But I feel like you two do have some income because you both sound angry to me. I just wanna have an open discussion. Well, I get angry when people continue to try and push crap on me like Daryl's done here when we've told him no no no a number of times, and I can't understand
[00:28:25] Unknown:
whatever. That that's what makes me angry. K? Well, I I didn't call to make you angry, sir. I just called No. You're you're not made me angry. If if I'm angry, you'll know it. Okay? I'm agitated because we told Daryl no. I don't know how many damn times. And for whatever reason, he can't hear very well.
[00:28:45] Unknown:
Yeah. I see. Alright. Well, I I did introduce LB to, his group, and I did, tell people that the book was worth the $60.
[00:28:55] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I've heard that's probably worth it. It it held the key. So that's that was that was You I mean, you're Okay. Well, I I don't know that it held holds the key, and he evidently won't tell anybody what the key is until they pay him a thousand dollars or more. Well, it's just $60 for the book again, Roger. $60. Well, I know about the book. I'm talking about people I'm people talking about people going through his process. I'm not talking about the book.
[00:29:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, the book I I I believe the book pretty much explains the process, but that's neither here nor there. I haven't paid him anything over over $60 any and that included shipping for the book. Okay. I'm just saying that, I'm just saying that I spent a lot of time studying law. And, you know, I it it took me eight months to get through his book. Yes, sir. I have. Alright. Good.
[00:29:48] Unknown:
And what capacity, Ed? In what capacity? What studying law in what capacity? Private counsel? Counsel. It's private counsel. That's correct. Okay. You're just learning on your own as you're going through going to court and stuff?
[00:30:02] Unknown:
I've been learning it, ever since, kids were watching MTV back in the eighties.
[00:30:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well, let me tell you where we come from. I have court cases. I had a, I had a law teacher and another guy that I ran into in Atlanta. Actually, I went to their seminar in Atlanta back in 1992. The law guy was a guy named John Benson. He's not with us anymore. The other fellow named Glenn Ambor is. And John was the legal branch behind this, and he'd studied law his entire life. Okay? Just because he was interested in it, but he didn't study it through law school. He went back and read the old books. Now what we've discovered, Ed, is that they have been in control of American universities and law schools for at least a hundred years, an organization called, the it's it's American Colleges and Universities.
And, they oversee all of the colleges and signed up under their umbrella, and it would appear that they have been changing the curriculums at law schools, and they're not teaching such important subjects anymore. Can I give you an example? Pretty important one. Okay. Yeah. Can do you know the legal meaning behind the word person, Ed?
[00:31:22] Unknown:
I know the I know the legal definition. Do you? Okay. What's that? And I know in Georgia, it ends with any other legal entity.
[00:31:30] Unknown:
Okay. Well, what individual corporation association. Ed, you're one of the few people I've ever asked in The US that got that correct, so at least at this point. A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. So when it says, for example, as we covered extensively yesterday, all persons born or naturalized in The United States, that persons is for everybody. Because the key part of the fourteenth amendment is not the first part of the test. It's It's the second part of the test and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, if there doesn't say no to said, it doesn't say are subject to the jurisdiction. It says and.
And so if there's some that are and subject, there's some that are and not subject, aren't there? So there's the whole scope of everything you're talking about is right there. But if you don't know the understanding the word person, how it's used, and the rest of that, there's eight legal landmines in that first sentence of the fourteenth amendment. And if you don't understand that, you're not gonna know what they're telling you. And what they're telling you is there's a really easy way to get out and not be subject to the jurisdiction thereof, but they're not gonna tell you how to do it. You're gonna have to find it. And that's what John Benson was able to do. He specialized in taxes and was totally focused on that. And so he never looked much outside of that.
And after I got involved with their process and fought the IRS in in federal district court down there next to the Mercedes Domes Bone at the Russell Richard B Russell Building, and I walked off licking my wounds and said, there's gotta be a better way to do this. And we switched to jurisdiction. We've been incredibly successful, Ed. I've been on the air teaching this for fifteen years. Never has there been one one submission to the federal government been refused. Oh, they'll try and bluff you a little bit. See how much you know, but and and and neither has anyone ever gotten their documents. Now another bone of contention I have with mister Bork is he says you can't have a passport and you can't have any action with the federal government. And that's just absolutely incorrect.
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K? Well, I think I think what he I think what he actually said was you can't be drawing Social Security under the Ashwander document. Well, he's wrong. He's wrong because I do it. He's wrong because I do it. And I submitted my affidavit
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when I opened my account.
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He's wrong. And so you're not you're not subject to the benefit then?
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Those are what's the benefit, Ed? Benefit. What's the benefit, Ed?
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Social Security.
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No. It's not. It's a benefit if you receive Social Security and don't have an account. That's a benefit. But, otherwise, I've got an account. It's not a benefit. You're wrong. He's wrong.
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Okay. I I I wish I I wish I could get him on, but I you know, if he's not have him
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Well, can I clarify one thing? I didn't I didn't Yeah. Put Listen. This is my head. With you. I wanna go back. Okay. Well, I'm gonna go back. I've been having things that you said. Daryl has been trying to shove the the Daryl link in Colorado has been trying to shove LB Bork up our ass here for about two weeks.
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Okay? You're getting upset. I'm just gonna have a conversation, buddy. I'm not I'm not trying to shove anything on you. I'm just talking to you. Well, oh. There is no LB.
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Let let me clarify something. Hold on a second, Ed. Let talk to my engineer here. Just a second, Ed. Okay.
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The whole thing with Social Security being a benefit, Social Security can be a benefit because there's many different kinds of Social Security. There is SSI, which is, Social Security Income, and that is a federal welfare program. There is Social Security, and that is a Social Security account. It is a retirement account. You open it before you start working and they take a few pennies or a few dollars out of your paycheck for forty quarters or ten straight years, and that is your contribution to your retirement. That, once fully vested, is not a benefit.
It is the result of a contractual retirement agreement that you made with the federal government. And you don't have to be a US citizen to pay Social Security or to take part in that program. There is SSDI, which is Social Security Disability Insurance. If you have vested forty quarters and you, for one reason or another, become disabled pre retirement age, you have, as long as you apply for disability within five years of your last working date, you then claim you claim benefits from an insurance policy that goes hand in hand with Social Security, and that is what Social Security disability insurance is.
Five years and one day, you're out of luck. But if as long as you apply for that within five years, you can start drawing Social Security before age 65.
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Or what is it? 68 now or 72? They're trying to They've monkeyed with it. I'm not sure. I I signed up at 62 the first day I could. So
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Right. But the thing is the thing is, if you are not a citizen of The United States, if you are not a resident, you cannot collect this SSI government welfare social security payment. And it ain't much. It's like $7,700. If you are a national, you cannot collect that. But if you are fully vested in your retirement, it is a private arrangement. It is a business relationship between you and the federal government that has absolutely no nexus
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to slavery or anything else. And guess what, Ed? Anybody in the world can sign up for it. It's not exclusive for The United States. They'll take money from it. Well, I so so so, Darryl, hold on. Hold on. Could I please? Darryl has been trying to do this. He doesn't get Bork on here, but evidently, he's got you on here as a proxy to try and argue some of this stuff as a straw man. So go ahead. I'm not trying to argue, sir. Again, I I You're trying to bring up stuff? Have a discussion.
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Okay. Because because of my experience, not because of yours or Paul's. Okay. Paul did correct me. He's right. It's not a benefit. It's a contract.
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Okay. He's he's he's correct about that. It's a contract. Okay. Well, mister then mister Bork's book that exploits all of that or extols all of it is wrong, isn't it?
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No, sir. None of it's wrong. Oh, okay. None of it's wrong. You just have two different points of view. That's all. Now I'm gonna tell you where you guys are wrong. Okay? Okay. Tell me. If you wanna hear it. Well, sure. Go ahead. Tell me. '46. In 1946, they came out with the Administrative Procedures Act. In the definition of the 1946 American Procedures Act, under five two five USC five twenty two a. It's either five twenty two a or five fifty two a. I'll have to go back and look. But, Right. They they have two definitions in there. Number two, that would they have several definitions in there, but the two I'm gonna point out. Number two says that, it to to, a a person or a a a party is a US citizen. That's what number two says.
Number 13 says it's it's talks about federal personnel. And the definition under federal personnel is anyone that's, active or retired military, any any public officer, or anyone taking a, government deferred benefit? Are you aware of that?
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I know a little bit about the Administrative Procedures Act. I don't know exactly what you're so. We're a part well, I know quite a bit about Everything out there is under the Administrative Procedures Act. Well, that's right. Because everybody has agreed to be everybody has agreed to be US citizens. Well, see, Ed, Ed, what we're trying to do is keep people out of court here.
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I well, that's good. Usually, when I get involved, though, they're already knee deep in it. But I appreciate the fact that you do that, and I do too. But I'm trying to tell you that if you wanna get justice, okay, which should be the end goal for all of us. Right. You know? We gotta get we gotta get rid of this administrative procedures act. We gotta get rid of Well, we bet we do it.
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We do that very easily. Can you tell me the three types of regulations that that prescribes in there in? Three There's three different types of regulations. There's three different types of regulations outlined in the Administrative Procedures Act. Can you name them and tell us the difference, please?
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Three types of procedures. Well,
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no. Three types of no. You're let you're not listening. Three types of regulations, not procedures. The procedures determine the type of regulation it is. Can you name us the three types of regulations? You're obviously pretty familiar with the Administrative Procedures Act. Can you name us the three types of regulations, what their labels are, and how they differ from each other? Abs absolutely. They're all public policy because the regulation Well, okay. We know that. Well, that's not what I'm asking. They are law. They're little they're called little laws, and they do apply as laws. Although, I agree with you. They're not constitutional. They're extra constitutional.
Again, you're very familiar with the APA. Can you give us at least the three titles of the different regulations and how they differ from each other?
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Sure.
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They're all public policy, so they don't differ at all in my mind. They do. There's one that's called a statement of policy, Ed. It's a statement internally for the reg for the agency, and it's settled in the and it's of, published in the federal register. The second category is called interpretive regulations, and they're only interagency also. The recent example of that was the mask mandate during the COVID scam that got overturned because it was only an interpretive regulation that they forced on the whole country, and it only applied to the CDC who promulgated the regulation.
The last regulation, Ed, is called, notice and comment. It's the only three of the one of the three that has general applicability to everybody that's under their umbrella. And it has to go through a very specific additional due process, configuration called notice and comment. And that's all spelled out in the federal register. Those are your three specific types of regulations, Ed, and that's how they differ from each other.
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But at the end of the day, they're all public policy.
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Well, no. They're not public policy. Statements of of, policy and interpretive are only interagency. They may apply to the way they deal with the public, but those only deal with the agencies. How can they be public policy if they only deal with the agencies, Ed?
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Because the the administrative, it says it in the first section of the, Administrative Procedures Act. It says it's in alignment with the constitution. The first fair act of the law. It's it's it's a Yeah. It's in alignment with the constitution, which to me means it's not the constitution.
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It's extra constitutional. It's not unconstitutional. It's past judicial muster. It's extra constitutional because it's actions in the country's in bankruptcy. That's how it can be extra constitutional.
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Just wanna have a conversation, buddy. I don't wanna get I don't wanna get angry. Well, I don't want I think your pretense that you're here is bullshit.
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You didn't just stumble in here. You were sent over here by Darryl Link to do this when we've told him, no. We don't want to discuss LB Borg stuff.
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I was invited to your show by a lady named Sandy. I really don't know that much about Darryl Link.
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Okay. So Well, I don't know too much about Sandy either.
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K. Hey, Roger. She's
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Yes, Bob. Hold on a second. Bob.
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Yeah. I heard extra constitutional, and my phone rang.
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I bet it did.
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Hey. I have been in and out of this conversation. I have not heard it all, so I'm I may be treading old ground here. But has the has the very obvious thing come up? Ed, what do you know about the feudal system?
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It's kinda fundamental here. No. That hadn't come up.
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Well, that's the end all be all. That's a good question.
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Back in 2020, my mother contracted dementia, and I was gonna have to leave my house on the North Side Of Atlanta and move to the South Side to take care of it. So we went looking for real property. Well, when I got into closing, Georgia is one of those, states that requires attorneys for real property closing. So I made the terms and conditions on the purchase and sell agreement by splitting the land up from the dwelling house and paying gold for the land. And I did that to stay out of the feudal system because according to Rourke, in in the laws of equity, if I pay gold for the land, both title and possession passed to me.
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Well, that sounds good, but it doesn't address my question. Do you understand that trying to stay on the futile. Do you understand that if you do not renounce your citizenship, you are, by presumption of law, a serf in the feudal system. I arrest takeover, I guess.
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Sure. I do. Well, you know, I can't Ed Ed, can I make a you sound like a nice guy? Okay? And and so could I make a suggestion? Oh, you sound like it. Would you go back and listen to a little of my stuff before you come in here on challenging on something you really don't know about?
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I never challenged you, sir.
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I just wanna have a You are. Well, you are challenging me. K? Okay. Well, we can have a discussion, but why don't you go back and listen to my stuff before you come on here and start challenging me? You don't even know what I'm about, where we came from, what we stand on, our fifteen year unblemished success rate with the federal government, Ed. We've never had one affidavit refused, and we've never had any blowback from the federal government that's been reported to me, not one time in fifteen years. Okay? That's pretty good track record.
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It's unblemished. I'll be happy I'll be happy to listen to you. I think I'm more of a a a reader. You know? Okay. Well, I I learn my reading. Well, that's fantastic
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because the second part of my book the second part of my book is edited by my teacher, Glenn Ambor, has been declared a legal masterpiece. So you will really get something out of it. The first part is my story. The second part is the legal argument. You should read that at least twice. It's free on the website. I don't charge anybody anything for it right now.
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Says you give me the website link?
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Yeah. Vmatrixdocs.com.
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Vdoc.matrixd0
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Yeah. It doesn't matter. D0cad either one of them work. Mister Paul's got that set up that way. There's a new student section on there, which we try and get people the accurate foundation. Are you familiar with the War and Emergency Powers Act by doctor Eugene Schroeder, Ed?
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Very familiar.
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Okay. Well, then that's on there. We let them know there was a bankruptcy, and that's when they switched the system on 03/09/1933. All that background's there. There's a number of different interviews with JB Wells and other folks. There's one I particularly like that I believe is over there in the new student section called God's Trump Card. Okay? And, that would be the one I'd suggest you listen to. And just go familiarize yourself. How can you discuss when you don't know anything I do? I'm discussing the law. It really doesn't have anything with what you Okay. Well, I just told you. We just had a wonderful discussion on the APA and and the Administrative Procedures Act. Did you know about statements of policy, interpretive regulations, or notice and comment? Did you have that knowledge? Well, here's here's the here's the issue. It was No, man. Can you answer a question?
Can you just answer a question? I am trying to answer it. And here's the thing. Yes or no is all that's required. I feel like I'm in Congress. No. Yes or no that's all that's required here.
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I feel like I'm in Congress because if you try to get me answer yes or no, then I can't explain my answer.
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I'll be happy to hear your an your explanation. Give me a yes or no first.
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My answer is yes. I'm completely familiar with the Administrative Procedures Act, and I'm completely familiar that every state uses it to go through contracts and reports.
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Okay. Well, that's not right then because you didn't know the different types of regulations and who they apply to. And there's only one out of three that apply to you. I can give you a great example. Would you like for me to? When we were having to wear the masks, And it was, taken and spread all over The United States. That regulation was an interpretive regulation promulgated by the CDC. They spread it to everybody. Well, some attorneys took in Central District Of Florida, took it to federal court down there with a gal that was one of Clarence Thomas' clerks, and she ruled as an interpretive regulation, and it only applies to the CDC.
Do you think that's important? There's a good example for you.
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Well, I knew that the governor's mandate was not law.
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It was public policy. Ed Ed, you're a nice guy. Go watch some of my stuff, then you come back and we'll discuss. Okay? Is that fair? Hey, Roger. Roger. Yes, Gary. Yes, Gary.
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Could this guy if he's gonna be on here, could he at least reveal some of the substance behind LB Borg's statements? I mean, I've heard nothing but argument from him for this whole time
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when not revealing any substance at all. Well, that that's exactly why I don't wanna discuss with York, so they send a surrogate.
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Hey, Raj. Well, that's what I'm saying. I think the to reveal some of the process. Give me something of substance.
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He hasn't been through it. So far, he hasn't been through it. Okay. He's all he's done is read his book, Gary. He hadn't been through the process evidently.
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Okay. Yeah. Well, you gotta your minds, first off. Do does do you wanna talk about the book, or do you wanna talk about something else? Roger said he didn't wanna talk about the book.
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I'd rather you leave and listen to my stuff. I'd rather you leave. Go educate yourself on my stuff. If you wanna have a discussion with it, then you'll be educated and aware, then come back and we won't have this situation. Hey, Raj. You came under fun. This is something that was was scheduled a Bork and Daryl all this crap, and now you show up wanting to be the protagonist for all this as some straw man. Ed, you sound like a nice guy. I got thirty years of roots in Atlanta. Okay? But you say you know about the APA, but the guts of it are those three types of regulations and who they apply to. But you didn't know that, but you won't tell me you didn't.
I I say that you're not being straightforward here. I I and I say you never gave me a chance to explain to you. Coming on. Hey, Ed. By the way, thanks for coming on and fucking up my show today. Okay?
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Hey, Raj. I think the reason that Can I change this object? I I wish you would. One second. Okay. The Go ahead. Second. I think the reason that Bork didn't come on here because was because one of the requisites for him coming on here was explaining, what the basis was for him saying this.
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And Well, let me ask you this. How how would your remedy yeah. How does your remedy differ from a gentleman by the name of, let's say, Roger Sales? And he's got quite a big following. He's been an RBN. But, you know, his particular fraud. He's a fraud?
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Yeah.
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He's got thousands of followers and about eleven year track record doing what he's doing. How's your fraud?
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Because he he's lying. He's lying. I can prove that. Lying. We're lying about what? What he says. It's not right. I I I could if I was a judge, I'd shut anyone he brought to me down.
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Yeah. But because he's illegal. Process. Yeah. He uses affidavits and administrative notice notices starting with some of the highest officials in the country, like the secretary of state of The USA.
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No. Well, he has eleven year track record. No no blowback. How can he not say that? I I've been out of the system for thirty years, and I've had no blowback.
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Well, do you again, you probably knew what you're doing versus a lot of other folks, but I just don't you know, you say you don't you know, you can't give out your remedy, but Roger freely gives us out six days a week and has quite a following.
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Because it's wrong.
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I see. But nobody's been prosecuted for following his process. How can you say that? Because they they they
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like people out there so they could prosecute them. Look what happened with the, January 6.
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That's a totally different scenario. Totally different scenario. Yes. It is. No. It's not. Those guys were set up, you know, they were set up, and they they and that was the first time we there was no due process.
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Setting people up. Bring bring me one person that's, gotten out of a a criminal activity or something. It's driving issue.
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Well, the prop yeah. The problem is is that, you know, again, nobody gets prosecuted using his process. If they understand the process and do it right and understand their status, they don't get brought into these courts.
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He was still supposed to show up today and explain why,
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he had to say on Republic Broadcasting Network. Mister Bortz said my stuff was shit, and it doesn't work, and I'm lying.
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And you better go study.
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Please go study. Please go study my stuff. And if you wanna come back and have a discussion, probably most of your questions will be answered. We take a totally different approach. I don't know what this guy's doing. I think he's a PA white triad. What was one of his comments that got back to us? David Strait stole all of his technique. Well, that ought to tell you everything you need to know right there. Okay? But but please, Ed, don't you've almost ruined the whole fucking first hour of my program today. Okay? Under these Wait a minute. I'm gonna even check here. Preach it. Innocent preaching. Alan, stop. Or you won't answer a damn question.
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He's in a I don't think that the show gonna extend for another hour with WVOU. I don't I think this is a great show because it shows the ignorance. It shows the education and the difference in between. So we're gonna go ahead and extra extend, your broadcast at WBLU another hour today.
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So, Ed, the guy says my danger. I would know. If you talk to mister Bortch, would you please tell him to bring forth one person in fifteen years that this has not worked for? He says it doesn't work, and he he says that very convincingly. So evidently, he's got some kind of inside knowledge. All he has to do is bring one person forward that didn't work for her out of fifteen years. That's all I would ask.
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I was just notified by my, by my moderator, that, LB has had his hand up in the in the chat. Oh, come on. You you press 6 to not gonna unmute. So Before Before we get
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before we go there, I just wanna What in the hell is wrong with you people?
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What's wrong with you, Roger? I am not here to validate
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LB Bork. I don't even want him on my program. I don't wanna give that amount a valid shut up. It's my damn program.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cut them off. That
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was That was be. I'm not gonna take your crap. Get out of here. Go start your own show. You got a a show on revolutionary radio. Go over there and do your own damn show.
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I really wanted to hear his explanation for how he called you a fraud and a liar. That's all I wanted to hear. I wanted him to put up or shut up.
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Still trying to change the subject.
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I'm not trying to change the subject. That was the requisite for him coming on the program. Daryl knew it. You know Daryl was supposed to communicate it to LB.
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Uh-huh. That's exactly why I didn't wanna do this, but they insist on forcing it. Daryl gets somebody and sets up a straw man through some female or whatever, and all of a sudden, he's popped up there with his hand up. Amazing. You people don't know the word no, do you? No. No. L b apparently, l b is l b, I don't charge anybody for my process. I'm not a p a y triad like you are. And I heard you say, oh, I can straighten this out in two or three months. If what? If everybody in the country pay you a damn thousand dollars and and buy your book? You're a PA YTrian.
You've taken and made a business out of that and a livelihood. And listen, if you wanna do that, that's okay. I just feel sorry for the people that that fall into there and don't really understand what's going on, but that's okay. I come from a totally different area. I wanna affect change. Okay? I don't charge anybody anything because I don't think you ought to charge anybody anything for freedom. If they're gonna truly be free, they've gotta learn a whole bunch of stuff and that's enough payment for me. Okay? And that's what I try and do is teach. And what you've been exposed to that you say is a bunch of crap is over a hundred years in three men's lives of legal and historical, reference. And, yeah, my other teacher, by the way, Glenn Ambor, if you've ever heard of a guy, named Roger Staubach, he was tutored Roger Staubach through Annapolis to the Heisman Trophy.
Pretty bright boy. Okay? So these are my teachers, and it ain't a bunch of crap. And the federal government recognizes it every time. Roger. We had a we had a passport call. I think it's my turn now. Oh, who is this George or who? Okay. Who is it? For Michigan. I've been waiting since I tried to change the topic a while. But Look, Ed. I'm sorry. It's an unusual day. We had false intruders come in under false pretenses and try and screw up the show today, and I'm really sorry. Yeah. Okay? My apologies. That's alright. This is Ed from Michigan. And, yeah, I just wanted to
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bring up something positive. On the show on Saturday, Larry was talking about the form schedule o high for the 10:40 n r.
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Yes. We're gonna talk about that again Saturday. Eye opener,
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and I do appreciate the information there.
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Alright. Well, he's gonna do it again Saturday, Ed. And this time, we're gonna have it done in a a a little more than an off cuff way, and he's gonna structure it and present it. And we're gonna clip it out, and we're gonna put it on the website for those people that are receiving this specific type of IRS harassment. Okay?
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Yeah. Well, anyway, just wanted to make that a positive note, and hopefully, we can kinda move forward here. Yeah. Thank you, Roger.
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Well, this is why you know, Ed, let me kinda tell you this is why every time they said, do you wanna do this? I said no. Because I knew that I cannot confront people like this, like that guy who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the dirt, at least on the surface, and all the things have gone away. He is a guy in business to sell freedom to people. I am a guy here with no business to try and get masses of people who maybe couldn't afford $60 for a book or more free if they wanna be. Right. Hey, Raj. I want to affect change. Mister Bork wants to affect the change in his bank account.
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That's the difference. I I I do have his book. I I I did put a whole lot out of it, but I didn't put a whole lot into it either. You know? So Okay.
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Well, I've heard different comments on it. He used to charge a 100 for it, by the way, even though he's doing it dropped to 60. Closer to a 100 than 60 myself. But Yeah. Yeah. Now. Yeah. He was charging a 100 from the time the book came out when he was first mentioned. First time I ever heard of the guy was over on Joyce Riley. So, yes, Paul. Go ahead. Smart day. Thanks, guys. Okay. This is exactly why I didn't want this to happen, Paul. Go ahead. This this isn't a defense,
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but it might possibly be an explanation as to why LB is charging for things that he's doing and why he wants to sell his book is if it is true that he has been out of the system for over thirty years now and he believes that he cannot take part in Social Security the Social Security system. Alright. You need to pay probably got no income. So he's probably just trying to survive. I would hope that he could do it using something else other than charging people for something that they have a god given right to have in the first in the first place. I'm not defending it, but that might explain it.
So
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now I'm sorry for Ed. Ed sound like a nice guy from Atlanta. Ed, if you still listen, you may be, may not be. Go go study my stuff. That's the one per if you wanna come on and bring all that stuff up, which you may know something about, like the specific example I gave you and then use on the different types of regulations. Well, let me tell you, before I left Florida to come to South America, I had an attorney call me, out of the blue. I don't even know how he got my number. And he had a client with a tax problem and somehow that kid had heard me or whatever. And so the attorney calls me and he wants to know about this APA stuff. Oh, I gave him my knowledge on it. And at the end of the pro at the end of the conversation, he said, Roger, you know more about this than 98% of the lawyers in the country.
That was his statement. You may know something about it, but you didn't even know the three different types of regulations. Oh, yeah. They're all you could call them public policy, but the only one that really is, it could be public policy because it affects the agency internally, and that decides on how they may deal with the SERF. But the only one that's really public policy is the third one called notice and comment, which has what they call general applicability means to everybody. That's the only kind. So if you didn't know all of that, then you really didn't know about the APA because you don't understand how it works.
Point made? Okay. Would anybody like to bring some sanity to this? I'm sure there are no students left on here, new ones. If there are, could you please come forward? Or if you got a question or bring a topic up and get us off this deep mailing that these damn him these people that were told no, no, no still are gonna they're as bad as the Jews. They're gonna connive and connive and get somebody new that some chick told and come on. You just had to press it even though you're told no, didn't you? Yes, Marco.
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And there's a prerequisite with learning here with us, and it's the new student data. And all everybody needs to review it, not just the students, even the gurus, that are trying to call you a fraud. And if they're, you know, if they're respectful,
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come on and ask questions or whatever. You know? But I I mean, it doesn't matter. I'm calling you a fraud. I'm not charging anybody for the information. You can call whatever be whatever you want. Doesn't make any difference to me. This is your freedom that you're dealing with. I would think though you would be intelligent enough if you desire that to have an interest in that. People are looking for answers, and they're going to the wrong people. That's what's happening. Here Ed said, are you in the district, the redistricting? I think what he was talking about was extending the jurisdiction of the federal government to the states.
But you see, that was done through the citizenry, not through the redistricting. They changed the statuses, and they switched everybody eventually to the lower status of a citizen of The United States, a former black slave in well, mostly the Southern States. Okay. Who said a Roger there? Alan from Chicago. Of Chicago. Okay. Alan was trying to get in. Roger. Come back. Yes. Yes. Hey.
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You know, this discussion I talked with Paul yesterday, and, we talked about, you know, LB,
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basically explaining Is this Darryl? You know Darryl, I told you. How many times do I have to tell you no? I didn't wanna have this meeting. We come from totally different places. He charges for what he do. I don't. I'm interested in effecting change. He's interested in his bank account.
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I understand that. I said what we just talked about all this day. What happened to him? He explained why or he was to explain, you know, why he called you a fraud and stuff like that and to get this out in the open and to neutralize the situation. I didn't come to bring dissension or argument. I only you know, there was there was, some disagreements and and stuff, and I thought the best thing to do is to bring it out in the open. Let's discuss it peacefully as as men and women on the land. We all want freedom. And, Roger, the first time I come on to your call and you talked about that affidavit of citizenship correction correction status, I did it because it resonated with me, and that was a separation.
And I appreciate that. And I've never said nothing bad. And if I can't say something good about somebody, I won't say anything. But I was only I'm trying I was trying to resolve, irritation, and we don't need to be fighting amongst each other. It would be best if we start looking at the real enemy. It's the deception and lies and the bureaucrats that are pushing it upon the people through deception. And I guess that's my objective is to bring truth to the forum and to resolve any disputes and to, you know, bring it out in the open because I believe the law the truth will always prevail, and the lie will be finally exposed and and called out for what it is.
So I yield.
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Alan from Chicago.
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Alan, please come back.
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The one of the things that strikes me is this, the pattern of the argument, the construction of it is identical to the sovereign citizen movement, quote, unquote. And let me explain. If you sit there and you, say a quote, a statute to a police officer, they turn to you, oh, you're a sovereign citizen. No. I don't think they put sovereign citizen BS into title 18. They don't put it into the tax. They don't put it into, the fourteenth amendment. That isn't sovereign citizen BS. That's the real law. It is a dogma that we're actually fighting here, not the actual law. When you're reading these things, you're reading the law. Okay, Roger? You're actually reading the law, and people are saying, oh, no. It's not. Yeah. It is. You're you can't rebrand it. You can't rebrand it to something else. This is how they destroyed the sovereignty of America by allowing this commercial foreign interest in order to rule our government.
And this is where where it comes down. Yes. We have to go back to the nineteen twenties. We have to go back to the nineteen thirties where this was set up because, ultimately, they knew that they had to take America down because of our freedom, because nobody other other than America has this kind of freedom. I yield.
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K.
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Anybody else comment from the audience?
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Land a long time ago. The only thing that's, the only thing that's useful Yeah. Yeah. The only part of the fourteenth amendment that's useful is the very first sentence, the one that we use. The whole rest of the fourteenth. The whole rest of the fourteenth amendment is just, psychobabble and BS for slaves.
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That's it. Well, they set it up. Here here's what they set up. They set up things like we're dealing with a $37,000,000,000,000 debt that's fraudulent. And then later on the fourteenth amendment, as it applies to the new federal citizens, they say a whole section on that you nobody can, question the debt. There's another two sections. Those are all for fourteenth amendment citizens. We, in the first sentence, is what dictates all that. We remove ourselves from that and then apply to hell. So, Daryl, I guess I appreciate what you're trying to do. Although I did tell you no. Look. And the board still doesn't know anything about my stuff, neither does Ed. So why don't they go off and do their homework, and then we can come back and discuss? Because mister Bortz says things like, you can't get a passport.
But let mister Bortz has a very poor understanding of this system if that's the conclusion he's come to on that document. It's the only place in the entire federal government where they tell you you can get out. And, no, I'm not getting a kickback. I get no funds out of all this I do with the exception of a private consultation and my own personal time, and they ain't having very many of those lately with the economy the way it is. So I I take Roger? I take no money from this. Alright? Oh, I got Sketch, and I got a female.
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Sketch yeah. Go ahead. Yes. Do get your second. Comment. I just wanted to mention that I enjoyed yesterday's show and your explanation and your conversation with the nice lady yesterday. That was so productive for an older person that's been here. And, also, if you want to read the transcript from the shows, you can read the transcripts from the shows. So I suggest if you don't like listening, you can read the transcript
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from yesterday's show, Eye Yield. Thank you so much. Thank you, Sketch. Who is the female? Robbie. Robbie. Robbie.
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Good morning. I have a question, and then I have another question for Daryl, if I may. I heard Dave say someone was a lawyer. Was he referring to Ed or Bork, please? Ed Ed is kind of a self,
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self developed lawyer is the impression I got.
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Well, Dave, who's a lawyer?
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Independent study. Ah, independent study of law for personal counsel.
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Okay. Dave, so you called Ed an attorney?
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Right. He he says he has clients. I just you know, he I've heard him on, twice on Daryl's Republic Call, and Yeah. He speaks as an attorney, and and he never shuts up. He opens his mouth, and he go for an hour or longer. And and it's and Bork is supposed to be the the speaker, and Ed has taken over both calls. And I'm like, who is this guy?
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Okay. Thank you. I I got a sense of that when I asked him the question about the regulations, and he came back with this enveloping, oh, and it's this, and I do know. And he, like you said, he would have gone on for hours. Can you just answer yes or no? Then I'll listen to your explanation. So I understand what you're talking about, Dave, perfectly. Now, Robbie, what? Yes. Yes.
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Anybody who answers a question with another question, I I do question. Now to Daryl, if he's still with us, Daryl, you have now studied Roger's work, and you have studied Bork's work. And my question to you, because we all here know what Roger's field of specialty is and the fact that he tries to keep us out of court. I'm wondering if if, Bork's message has to do with people that are end up in court. But, Daryl, if you're still there, could you briefly tell us what is it about Bork's message that is so worthwhile that you wanna want to, continue studying it.
Is it because he deals with people that are actually in court situations? I I'm just trying to understand
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here. That's a good question, Robbie, and I appreciate that. And and, yeah, Daryl. I mean, why would you wanna follow somebody and promote them when you know some of their stuff is as blatantly wrong as we've just covered in this little exchange today. So the guy says you can't get a passport. No. You can't have any dealings with the federal government. Well, that's just wrong from the standpoint of nothing else. It it, overstates the constitution where it says he can't impair the ability to contract. Why would you have and follow and promote somebody that's got some of their stuff so blatantly wrong?
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Okay. You want me to hear my response?
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I guess so.
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Okay. He come on, you know, talking about, you know, the fourteenth amendment and all this kind of stuff. And, you know, and we agree to disagree on many points. Okay? I did I did the affidavit of the status correction process, and I use your format. And I appreciate that. I believe it was spot on. And I enhanced it a little bit and amended the one I originally did. But I believe the principle of it is absolutely right. But we, had those disagreements. And I know he made the statements about you, and I don't call names. If I can't say something good about somebody, I'm not gonna say anything.
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But,
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when I talked to Paul, he said that he would come he could come on and explain why. And what I would like if if you don't know what you don't know, you're gonna do things that you'd never do if you knew. So what, what he what he did, calling names, you know, was the reason for coming on to explain that part of it. And I was hoping to bring peace among the people. We don't need to be fighting against each other. If there's somebody that's incorrect, I'd I'd like to resolve it.
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And try to l b bork l l b bork excuse me for interrupting, Darrell. L b bork has name has come up so seldom on the show over all these fifteen years. It's it's not like it's a daily topic of conversation. Okay? You heard the guy that called and confronted him there on our b n was Wayne, one of our good students here. He's been around for years. Okay? And you heard those responses. I just, look. You you wanna go follow Bork? Go follow Bork. I've I've spent half of my I've spent half of my damn adult lifetime, Daryl, at no pay and almost always expense to get to a point where I could get here and help teach people.
That's all I wanna do. Roger. Okay. Okay. Harold, could you please did you could could could you please just let me talk? It's my show, please? K? And and and and and and, god. Now I'm off
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topic. Roger, up to a couple of years ago, we actually used to promote Bork's book, The Red Amendment, because it was a good primer on the fourteenth I've heard it's a very good book. K? We've actually promoted the Red Amendment on this show. We stopped promoting the Red Amendment on this show when Bork called you a fraud. He threw first blood. He's the one that threw the gauntlet down. We just picked it up and beat the hell out of him with it. All I care about is freeing people and see if I can affect a change in the world.
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I'm working on my legacy. I got no kids. This is I take this, what I do here, that GED seriously. Okay? It's my whole life. I I
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appreciate that. And the reason And I do. Why we talked about Paul yesterday was to have that explanation of why he would call you a fraud and the show or whatever. But that was mentioned on the Republic Call show. Yes. It was. And I and I didn't approve of it. Okay? But it come out. So this was an opportunity to make this correction. And this was this was the reason why I come on last Saturday and asked if, you know, we could bring this discussion about and try to resolve that.
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And if if if one is on the it doesn't understand something, maybe the other one can explain it, and we can resolve it peacefully. Oh. Because But now we have to Okay. Let me let me put let me see if I can put it this way. I'm not gonna go study LB Bork's stuff because I already know a bunch of it is is wrong. He gonna go have to study my stuff. If they wanna come back and have any kind of a discussion, then we got something to discuss. We don't have anything to discuss right now. His whole remedy is from further down in the fourteenth amendment, and all of that is for federal citizens. We're not that. We changed that from the very first sentence, and none of it applies to us. You say you don't go to court, that's because we're not federal citizens. We don't have things like public policy regulations and stuff affecting us to where we would have to go to court because they don't apply. It's called jurisdiction.
K? And and that's what we need to do.
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That's, that's fair, and I don't disagree. And all I was trying to do is resolve a conflict. And I don't like name calling. I would like to, fully explain or have each side fully explain if somebody called somebody something that isn't correct to correct it. That's that's that was my basis, and I yelled.
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Darrell Okay. You didn't answer my question, though. You you have not answered my question. My question was, what is it that you're studying with Bork, that that makes you continue in this? Is it is it the fourteenth amendment? Is that the only thing? Is that the only thing? You never answered my question. You just repeated everything you said before.
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Please. The the the fourteenth amendment and the status is a key part of it. And to understand, you know, what status that, you need to separate yourself from, it's good to understand the fourteenth amendment and what and how they implied it and brought you in by all these minimum contact contracts and all this here. But, this he was introduced to me. And so we allowed an opportunity to basically express that position.
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Yes. Well, we we get all that here with Roger. We get that all here with Roger.
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Darryl Roger was on the call a few times and explained to you earlier.
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We don't need Bork. We got Roger.
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That's what we're learning, Daryl, here. We're learning everything. Not only that, but a a lot more.
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Okay. I knew I knew that the fourteenth amendment talking about
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and it was to resolve the accusation.
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Okay. Well How many well, to for him to explain himself, because there was absolutely no basis in his claims, and he couldn't defend himself even recently as recently as two weeks when you brought up the fact that you wanted Bork on this program and people in your own administrative team, your own, administrative team in the Republic call, at least one person said, I don't think that's a good idea. And you just basically steamrollered right through. But, but here's the deal. I have done extensive study on the fourteenth amendment. I have read all five sections, and I have poured through it numerous times. The one sentence that will get you free is the first sentence. All persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States and of the state wherein they reside.
Everything after that sentence is for serfs. It is garbage. It is nothing but blatant blathering on like, nattering nabobs of negativism, and it only applies to those that are not disqualified by the first sentence. To continue I don't do to pour through the fourteenth amendment trying to apply something that obviously does not apply to apply. That obviously does not apply to you is an exercise in futility and a waste of time.
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And let me say something else, Daryl. His statements, he doesn't have to come on and apologize. You know why? Because anybody that's familiar with my work or me knew when he opened his mouth that all he was doing was telling people he's an idiot. I mean, in that respect. Because it's so totally wrong. Anybody who's ever been with me or studied my stuff know that's in totally 100% incorrect, and it only makes him look foolish. So that's okay with me. If he wants to make himself continue to look foolish publicly, that's fine.
I give him permission. Well,
[01:24:28] Unknown:
all I was trying to do was resolve and allow an opportunity to explain why he would call somebody a name like you did. And I didn't Well, it's obvious agreed. And I Well, it's And, Darrell, I was on that call when he said that about Roger, and you didn't call him out. You didn't challenge him. You didn't say anything. You let him keep going. I think you just got him on there to fill a slot because you're looking for people to talk on your show. And if you can't have people that tell us the truth, we don't wanna hear that crap, and I yield.
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Okay, Dave. Could you see what I'm saying? He's the he's the one that made, made himself look foolish publicly with those statements. And the other people that don't know have any idea of who I am at all or what we do, well, we had a you
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know, the you know, the truth finds its way to the surface and the lie and the lie goes to the wayside. Yeah. I like it. Good to have a question to to to open things up, and some people might might be misled by this concept or that concept.
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Well, I guess But every you know,
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one making a false accusation, you know, should explain his, his position. I I
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I think if they get misled, it's kind of their responsibility, isn't it? Five times in Matthew 24, Jesus says, do not be deceived.
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Ma'am, first Timothy, you
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know, where it's to study thy to study thy own self approved, a workman unto God, not being ashamed, rightfully dividing the word of truth. I think we all have to study and know who we are, why we stand for what we stand for, and answer I agree. For our Well, I totally agree. Well, that's totally agree, but it's your freedom. That's your decision.
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I can show you my wares. You can walk by and go, I like that, that, that, that, that. But if you don't choose to buy, that's your decision, isn't it?
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Well, this is this is each one's decision. And but if somebody misled, if you believe a lie is the truth, then you would support it to the end to the end. But if you were misled, the lie that is the closest to the truth is the most dangerous.
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Well, Daryl, I've been shouting from the rooftops for fifteen years publicly to try and get this message out. I've done the best I can do. Okay? I don't know how I could have done it any better. I'll maybe get on social media and all that, but this is where we started, and this is me. And so I'm gonna fulfill the rest of my life trying to see who wants to be free. And that's what it is. Because I can put this information down in front of some people and a small percentage see it and it resonates with them. The vast majority is like Winston Churchill said. Most times in a man's life, once man stumbles across the truth, most men pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and go on about their way. That's exactly what this is.
And I can't Roger, when I Only thing I can do for those people is pray for them. K? Plant a seed. See you later. Good luck. That's what we say down here.
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Good luck. What what I what I supported was basically restoring this country back to the people, up for and by the people from the bottom up and to get back to the intent of those four organic laws under the laws of nation, laws of nature and nature's God. And to get the people back in control of what is running this country instead of a bureaucracy from the top. And this is what we are up against where they're holding us in a whole different class of status through that deception of the share of personage where they personate us and and then hold us as if we're property and collateral when they took the lawful money out of circulation.
Right. And I think a lot of people have not been taught this in school. It has not been a topic of discussion, you know, in the, public format on any of the mainstream media, and people are deceived in a major way. And I think it's good to, you know, bring this stuff out in the open and at least,
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have a platform where people can start learning about it. Roger. Well, I'm sorry. I hope if some of those new students were in the audience today that they didn't take a judge on what this show's about by what's been brought on us today, Daryl. Thank you. Yes. Who was trying to say something there?
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Yes, please. Sketch. This is sketch. And and you you have a saying about beating your head against the wall. What is that saying?
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He says, I'm beating my head against the wall because it feels so damn good when I stop.
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That's how I feel today.
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Me too. Thank you. I I I just I I really I've told you several times, sir Daryl. No. No. No. And you insist on getting this today and just to in my mind, as a very, self critic, this is a terrible show today. I tried to avoid it, and the people that were involved on the other side would not hear it. Yes, ma'am.
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Roger, this is this is Muse. Hey, Muse. I've been listening on different platforms I'm sorry. And I had to call in because this is it gotten way out of hand. It seems to be the only person having an issue here is Daryl. He's lacking in people, lacking in substance. I don't know. He's trying to create drama where drama should not even be. He failed to call him out when he said anything. It should have died there versus him passing along rumors and making things bigger than what they are. So you we've spent, like, a week or more promoting Bork instead of talking about your information and trying to talk to new callers and and seeing what's going on and and everything that we would normally want in these, Letting Daryl run on is not doing anybody a service, not even Daryl. He's digging his hole farther and farther and farther.
If he has an issue, he should seek within
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and resolve it within and stop trying to drag other people into his drum. Okay. I I agree with you. Here's the thing. If his whole motives, just like Daryl said, they wanted to come on here and take this old this little, personal character swipe that mister Bork put out there in the universe and see if we can straighten it. Well, I don't care. You know? And I'm gonna tell you why in a second. As I told you a minute ago, the people that know me and I my work, they know that the guy making that statement well, that he just doesn't have his arms around everything. I'll put it that way. K? So he's making a fool out of himself publicly by even saying it.
Right? And secondly, is I don't want to have Bork's program name and book necessarily promoted on my show when I know a lot of the stuff he says is wrong. Dead wrong. You can't have a passport. You can't interface with this or that in the federal government. Well, you're just wrong, mister Bork. I'm sorry. I don't care how long you've been free, but you hadn't got to this part of the program. They can't impair your ability to contract. It's freely on your end. You can go in and contract with those people if you want. Because once you've got your status properly changed, contracting with them does not override that. See, those are another thing you don't know or understand because you don't know my work and you don't know what we teach.
Period. So if you wanna say ugly things about me, you go ahead and do it and make yourself look functionally illiterate. You go ahead and do that. Mirka.
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So from what I heard today and yesterday, it sounds like he's keeping people stuck in The United States instead of getting them out
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of the system. Get out of And Well, they can't get out of The US if they don't have a passport.
[01:33:04] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's incomplete. There's a lot of incomplete information from what I'm hearing. And, and Daryl needs to fix that issue for himself with work. He doesn't have to bring anybody on the show that's Right. Bad mouthing what you're doing. And, you've done so well, you know, helping people learn.
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I just told you, Darryl. I didn't I didn't come on to bring an argument. I I just only come on to try to resolve resolve
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resolve an issue of false accusations. But it's that it's your issue being treated with him. I'm I'm giving you public permission to do that and make yourself look like a fool. You go ahead and do that, mister Bork, and I don't need an apology from what you've already done. K? Simple as that. You're out there teaching wrong stuff. I'm sitting here for two hours on my program promoting a guy whose stuff I know is wrong. I don't know how much of it's wrong when I can't get to that kind of a, no. You can't have any interaction. No. You can't have a passport. Well, tell me. When I know that's wrong, well, should I go study the rest of his stuff? Should I go spend more time?
No. That's why I don't even wanted to promote him on my program, Daryl. But, man, I just can't get this across to you, it seems like.
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Roger, I did I did, acknowledge right at the beginning that when I seen the proposed affidavit of status correction that you did, I knew that was right because it is the first two sentences or first sentence of the fourteenth amendment is Wow. And you establish who you are and base
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Thanks, Darryl.
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Okay. Well, we lost Darryl, it sounds like. You. I'm sorry. If if you any of you are out there like Alan that got a real charge out of today's show and this kind of what was his name, Paul? Ernie Pyle? Wasn't it the Ernie Pyle show where they used to get up and get into fights and beat each other with chairs and stuff? I think that's it. But who what was it? So sketch?
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Jerry Springer. Maybe.
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Jerry Springer. That's it. Jerry Springer. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't like that kind of stuff. K? I'm I'm on here and take my time, two hours of my personal time, 100% focused on this for two hours to try and help people improve their lives and change their lives. I'm not here to argue with somebody that doesn't have have their facts straight. It's I'm not here to I'll answer this. I'm not here to promote his stuff either. I'm gonna go buy his book fine. It's my understanding that he charges at least a thousand dollars to go through the paperwork. I don't know if he educates you or not. He says it's very, very complex, etcetera, etcetera. May work, may not. I don't know. Never got any feedback one way or the other. It's probably good. It probably proves that it may work, but I don't care about that. I care about the first sentence of the fourteenth amendment and the whole world. Ellen, on vacation. Three words, all persons born. And those three words control the world. Everything that controls the world happens under those three words. But if you don't know the legal side of it, you don't understand that. Yes, Alan?
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The reason why I went ahead and extended this was not because it was turning into the Jerry Springer show. It was deliberately because the dogma and the facts were being shared side by side. Even if it was a confrontation, the dogma and the facts and the facts survived. Okay? And and that was the reason why I extended the show.
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It's very rare that we actually have those elements side by side to look at them quick. You know, it was probably true, Alan. Make the Well, I didn't think about that. Now you're probably true. It was a good start comparison like Brent would say between the law of the line and the law of city. Okay? But the reason I've never delved into Bork's stuff is because of the all of those statements. I was doing a thing with Fletch, Fetch, whatever his name is. One time, we were supposed to have a show. There's problems. But we got to talk a little afterwards, and he said, I just wanna ask you one question. He goes, do I have to learn all that stuff? Well, I didn't go over very much. But yeah. Well, do you wanna be free? Well, we I you know? Well well, just like Thomas Jefferson, expect what never was and never will be. I do have to learn that stuff, Fetch said. He said, I have LB Bork on. And the only one thing I wanna know, can I get a passport?
And he said no. And I said, I can help you. No problem. Never heard back from the guy. Okay? But right there, was the first time I came across this. So I've known for a while that his conclusions and his thesises are not only wrong, Darrell, they're dead wrong. Because in fact, it's just the opposite. It's the only place in the whole federal government where they tell you you can get out is a passport application, mister Bortz.
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Hey, Roger. Female.
[01:38:30] Unknown:
Yes. It's Murr. Murr Linda. Hey, Murr. It's Murr. Yeah.
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You know, I was listening on the Pod home, and I thought, well, let me stop by here before I have to go somewhere else. But, just remember the full honeymoon is waxing. So so, but I've seen, like, in chat rooms, and I was on a call, one that calls himself, well, no. It was Bork. He was on, and, you know, this was a few years ago. And he was, like the one in the chat saying, oh, well, you know, Roger left the country. And my reply was, I didn't leave the country, but I when the holy spirit when the still small voice said, you better get well, you better get. You best get. Alright?
[01:39:16] Unknown:
Well, you know, and we should be very grateful for that, Myrrh, because as I look back on it, I thought back then, it was just to get out of The US. Little did I understand until years down the road that that was the first place I had to go get a passport, and it was in that passport that I found the answer to this whole whole shooting match. And and so was it to tell me to get out, or was it to guide me to the answer?
[01:39:44] Unknown:
Well, both, apparently.
[01:39:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Interesting question though, isn't it? Yeah. We need to be thankful. We need to have gratitude and Try to visibility. Laughing the ridiculous because there's no reason to get upset. And in fact, that blocks your ability to think. Well, you know, listen. I I know I've got the answers only because I know who my teacher was. I know it's always worked. I I know the grounds of it. And and I was very surprised, and I need to compliment Ed that he had any idea of the definition of the word person, but outside of the scope of a corporation. So compliments to you. You do a bit on the outside about the Administrative Procedures Act. You didn't know how it worked internally or the influences it could have. Let me give you a direct example on what I told him earlier about the mask.
The Bush administration said they were gonna appeal that decision. They never did. Okay? The next time last fall, fall before last, they were gonna try another of these schemes. Jones and those people got wind of it and and and exposed it before it started, but they still when it came off, they still had a mask mandate, Murr, but the only people that were required were TSA agents. It was a internal regulation, not general does. Disability like the first mandatory.
[01:41:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Mandatory isn't a law. And, you know, if, they turn me away, they turn me away. At one point, one place, said, you know, where I regularly went and then wasn't there for till they quit doing the nonsense, the masquerade. Right? But I said, it's not a law. And they said, oh, it's policy. So they, you know, they shoot themselves in the foot, these businesses, by going along with this fearful obedience test. And look at it. There'll be more coming because
[01:41:35] Unknown:
governments are psychopaths. Alright? Yeah. Well, they're run by them for sure. Right.
[01:41:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Doesn't seem like it was I
[01:41:44] Unknown:
I I'd like some input from the audience on today's show or what's on your mind or what this jousting match, today was about. I I would say I don't have a problem talking with Ed and even Bork, but they gotta go study my first my stuff first and at least have a general understanding of what we do and why. Well, at least have a question.
[01:42:06] Unknown:
At least have a question of something that that they read that they didn't either thoroughly understand or went against something that they had learned previously. If they have a question that you can correct or that that you can answer. But I think it was really, really interesting what you said, and I think this should be on a bumper sticker. I thought the passport was to get out of the country, but it turned out to be the way out of the system.
[01:42:36] Unknown:
Well, that's very good. I said that That should be on a bumper sticker. You're right. Or a T shirt, at least.
[01:42:47] Unknown:
Well, I understand Israel makes those machines. Right?
[01:42:50] Unknown:
And gives you a good reward. Oh, pressure. I'm sure of that. And if they didn't have the company, they went and bought it. Because then they make all their little fake people like Jeffrey Epstein, Syrian passports, or anybody they want.
[01:43:06] Unknown:
Did you see what they found in those ICE raids? Between themselves.
[01:43:10] Unknown:
You know? Did you see what they found in those ICE raids in Chicago and maybe, outside of Denver? They found a form where New York was giving people commercial driver's licenses with no name.
[01:43:29] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:43:31] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Is my name on it. Left of it.
[01:43:35] Unknown:
It's unbelievable. Bumper sticker.
[01:43:38] Unknown:
Oh, I got something more. Listen. This is big. I got a bump alright. What's what's your bumper sticker, Robbie?
[01:43:45] Unknown:
Go to expose the matrix. Don't get borked.
[01:43:52] Unknown:
Oh, very good. No. No. No. No. No. No. We're not trying to be named here. No. Robbie's got a borked. Robbie's got a little borked has been. I agree. I'm not here to promote him. His stuff may work. I don't know. I don't know that I care to know because of his attitude towards promoting it. If it works so great, you should have come out in the open with it twenty years ago or so and not charge people for it. Then it'd be great. But you tell me Roger,
[01:44:24] Unknown:
Roger, as long as you continue to talk about it and mention his name, he is renting
[01:44:30] Unknown:
free space. I know. Well, that's why I didn't and you're not help everybody else. That's exactly why I didn't want this to take place. Period. Alan. Alan, go ahead.
[01:44:41] Unknown:
This is something that I I've noticed. It was something that I've studied. It's called parallel construction within the law. In one condition, you're restricted, and the other condition, you were not. These did not appear until after the fourteenth amendment because they only had one track of law prior to the fourteenth amendment. After the fourteenth amendment, they had what is called parallel construction. Whereas in one condition, you're guilty. In another condition, what are you talking about? So this parallel construction has been a huge secret.
And one of the biggest things that brought me to you was the parallel construction study I had done prior to finding you. And, also, the reason why I'm promoting you is because you're destroying the prime, the the secondary, or the exit, ramp in order to allow all of these prohibitions that doesn't even exist. Okay? And,
[01:45:40] Unknown:
that's one of the reasons we decided on is because of the construction. Go ahead. Are you? Well, you know, it's interesting you'd say that. Go go ahead. But let me give you my thought on this because I thought about it in that relation, not with parallel construction the way you describe it, but parallel construction as you're looking at a railroad track. And before, we just had a uni rail system. And what they did was they added the parallel one over there, and then they bait and switch this all over to the parallel. There's your parallel construction. The other side of the railroad track is still there. You just gotta know how to get over to it.
[01:46:17] Unknown:
Roger?
[01:46:18] Unknown:
Yes. Samuel. Alright, John. Yes. Thank you. What time. Go ahead.
[01:46:24] Unknown:
You said you wanted commentary on the show. I'm gonna just pick two maxims of law. The first one is unequal things ought not be joined. I don't think you belong in the same room with Bork, and error of law is injurious. And he's in error, and he's suffering from his own teaching if he's not on Social Security, isn't he?
[01:46:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Probably. I mean, I I understand it and even probably way deeper than they do on the surface. We've talked about it here in the way that this was one of the basis of the Pharisees take over the society in Jesus' time. This is one of the things he was railing against. Okay? But, down the road here, in in my later years, when I I would have never saved, what, $2.50 or whatever it was they took out a a month way back forty, fifty years ago, I didn't ever save that. And and I would have had to have been selling gold the whole last fifteen years of my life, and that would have upset me a lot. Okay? So I am very grateful for Social Security. The I couldn't live on it in The US.
I probably couldn't rent an apartment for the amount that I they paid me there, but here I can live real real nice. So the standard of living, all that is just a real I'm very grateful for it even though I understand that it may have some dark sides. Yes, Dave.
[01:47:56] Unknown:
Yep. I can't remember exactly what Bork said, but it I got the impression that he didn't even pay into Social Security, so he can't collect Social Security. And I think it might be sour grapes there because now he's hurting. And he basically what Paul said earlier, I tried to chime in. That's exactly what Bork said. You know? So he's doing this because this is he and he everybody that does this, they always try to throw in Bible verses like, oh, a workman is worthy of his hire. Okay. I yield.
[01:48:31] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you, Dave. And for me, it's gotta survive something. That very well may be a lot of motivation behind this whole thing. I just don't necessarily as I said, I think I've got a a righteous, stand here, foot to stand on. I don't promote people that teach bad stuff. We talk about them in a negative sense like David Strait, who according to mister Bark, was using his material, charging you $400 for this, $2,200 for trust, etcetera, etcetera. And judge, judge of her own court, Anavon Wright, judge of the superior's court of the people's docket. Okay. Well, where does that exist?
You got a website online or something? Well, you you're the judge. Okay. Well, you just got your ass whipped by the IRS. Cost you over a million dollars. I'm not you didn't even show up to court to defend it with all your crap. You scribble something across the I refuse to contract, refuse with dishonor, and send it back to them, and they just railroaded right over. And I think they're in the process of, seizing and selling 1,200,000 worth of property in Wisconsin, something like that. Well, it seems like maybe Anna, old judge Anna's stuff doesn't really work too well, at least against those guys, does it? Well, I I'm not I'm not gonna try and give them people credit. I'm gonna try and let the masses know that if they wanna go over there and poke around, they're fine too. But boy, go in there with all senses tuned that a bunch of these people have misconceptions.
And virtually all of them were charging you money.
[01:50:12] Unknown:
Gotcha.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
Yes, Joan. I'm sorry. I forgot about you. How could you forget about Joan? Yes.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Did Ed in Georgia or Daryl say why Bork says you cannot get a passport?
[01:50:28] Unknown:
We didn't get to any of that. Like I said, I'm not on here to promote Bork. I'm on here to try and find people like you and get you free. Get you where you're not over in a corner with your damn knees shaking every time you get an IRS letter in the mail to try and get the guts that God meant for you to have back into your mind where you know you've got the power here. You just gave it away in a fraud. Take it back. Right. That's what I try and do. Joan, that's, I think that's the whole reason the good Lord put me on this earth is to do this. Right. I can look back over my entire career, Mirka, and see all the training that I got where it gave me the ability to get on here and do this with any expertise and zeal that I bring. And you know what they say, enthusiasm is caught, Mer, not Merkle, not taught.
Enthusiasm is caught, not taught. Go ahead.
[01:51:34] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:51:36] Unknown:
Just wanted to say that, you know, his statement about Diaz stealing his stuff should be a clue for two people that he's not teaching the right stuff.
[01:51:46] Unknown:
Well, they're saying look. He very well may have something there. I don't know what it is. I'm not gonna go pay him to find out. But if if he did, god bless him. I hope all of his folks, even though in these times, they may have their butt in a crack like he did because he was teaching and following bad information, well, I hope they get out of it somehow. K? I hear jobs are real scarce out there these days. And thank God, my father, my we lived on Elmendorf Air Force Base, Markle, a big Air Force base up there. And my daddy wanted me to start working when I was 16. And so he he not only went and got me a job at the officer's club down in what they call the Clipper Room. You ever heard of the clipper room? It's where you clean all the dishes.
He got me and another guy a job down there. And to do it, he had I had to have a Social Security number. So he went and got all my Social Security stuff for me. Here's your number. Here's your job. Go get it, kid. That's why I got a Social Security number. But I'm grateful for it now. You know what else I'm grateful for my dad for? When I was in the ninth grade up there in our high school, he made me take typing. I fought him and did not wanna take typing, and he made me do it. He said, you'll for you'll you'll be grateful one day. Holy smokes.
When computers came along, people were paying $3,500 for two eighty six computer, and then they're doing one finger hunt and peck. And then big next fastest computer, they go buy it for a thousand dollars more, and they're still hunting and pecking with one finger. It's unbelievable. Hey. Okay, Merkel. I'll quit running off here. Roger? I just wanna say, those two those two things. Thank you, dad. Thank you. Yes, Larry.
[01:53:55] Unknown:
Yeah. It was suggested the other day that if mister Bork, if if we weren't gonna give him if you weren't going to give him, an, you know, a meeting time to talk to each other, it was suggested let him call in, you know, on his own accord and ask a question or make a statement or whatever. And so it appears he did do that. I heard Paul say earlier that he had his mister Bork had his hand up. And, now I'm curious, like, what what's the reason why he wants to, you know, discuss something with you? You know, everyone's jumping to conclusions about things that he has taught in the past, things that he has said in the past, and all of that is irrelevant because we don't really know why he is trying to talk to you. Maybe he's trying to say something to you I think
[01:54:45] Unknown:
reconcile or something.
[01:54:46] Unknown:
I think he's trying to get some exposure, but I think he's trying to get some exposure because he never contributed to Social Security. And now in the conditions in the country right now, he's hurting. I can see that easily. That may be the motivation. I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying it may be. But we don't know. So now I I think Yeah. I mean, I'm just curious as, as far as what he has to say. So Larry. You know, he did Alright. Wait. Thanks. Us to do a you want us to take a show, a whole show next week and call it the RB Bork Show and have this again and give him all this publicity? Should we do that?
[01:55:22] Unknown:
Larry. Hello. Chris from California. Larry.
[01:55:26] Unknown:
Alright. Oh, Chris, hold on. Sketch is first. Sketch.
[01:55:31] Unknown:
I'm I'm suggesting to to, the FedEx driver
[01:55:37] Unknown:
to go on to the Republic and ask him. How about that,
[01:55:41] Unknown:
Ayil?
[01:55:42] Unknown:
There you go. Thank you. Now who I'm pretty sure Daryl made him do it.
[01:55:46] Unknown:
Daryl won't let him back on the show until he apologizes to Roger.
[01:55:51] Unknown:
Oh, please. It's look. Let him run like I said, all he's doing is making a fool out of himself. Let him do it. Give a monkey enough rope, and he'll hang himself every time.
[01:56:05] Unknown:
Roger.
[01:56:06] Unknown:
Yes. Chris. Right.
[01:56:10] Unknown:
If I have a vote, I'm raising my hand. I'll vote that we stop mentioning his name and forget about it.
[01:56:15] Unknown:
Thank you. I second that.
[01:56:18] Unknown:
Let let's move on.
[01:56:20] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you, sir. Well, we're we're we're about to we're about to move off, and I guess in moving off, we'll move on, Chris. Thank you. I second that emotion. Who else got something to say here? We got a minute or two.
[01:56:33] Unknown:
Yes. Lady Linda Louise.
[01:56:36] Unknown:
Hey, Linda. Boy, how'd you like today's three ring circus?
[01:56:41] Unknown:
Well, it was, pretty bizarre. But, anyway, when Ed said that he does not know Daryl Link, that was not true. Ed has been on the Republic call. He knows Daryl is the moderator, and Sandy is one of the trustees. So when he said Sandy introduced me to your show Okay. And I have been wrestling with the three trustees behind the scene, and Daryl has not ever once said that the reason he wants you and Bork to get together is to have Bork justify the insult that he made toward you. That has never came up. We do. Come up. And so when Muse, said which he said, thank you, Muse. I totally agree with what Muse said.
Dave from the thumb, I totally agree with what he said. Daryl had every opportunity on the Republic call to say, excuse me, mister Bork. You just called someone that has integrity, a quote, unquote fraud. Now I did this on our administrative call. I said to mister Bork, do you know Roger Sales? The first two words out of his mouth was a fraud. A fraud. And I said, have you met him? No. Have you spoken to him? No. Have you seen his darks? No. I said, well, you just called someone that I know has integrity, and I respect a fraud. And so we're gonna have to agree to disagree, and I did not want Brooke on the republic call for that very reason.
And I just wanna say I love you, and I'm very unhappy with how this call went with Daryl. I felt they all collaborated together, and now they are CYA covering their own tushes. I yield.
[01:58:33] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Linda. Voice of sanity. You know, listen. I just tried to stop this from the start. Daryl continued to push it, push it, push it. I don't care to give mister Bork any publicity. He teaches false doctrine, at least enough for me to not wanna give him publicity. I don't care if he slanders me. He only makes himself look foolish. So go on ahead, mister Bork. And, anyway, listen. We're at the end of the show right here. As you know, it's been a very interesting program, a little bit contentious. I can promise you we will not have this tomorrow because Brent Winters will be with us. Oh, by the way, mister Bork, he's a twenty plus year practicing attorney.
Right? Not an attorney of the people or a judge. See you tomorrow with Brent. Have a good day. Thank you. No. No. It's not over yet. Okay? That's okay. We can we can tag out with the music. Alright. Well, not one of my top 10 favorite shows, I can tell you. I'd I I think it's counterproductive. Hopefully not. Maybe you got something out of it. Good luck. Love you. Bye.
[01:59:44] Unknown:
Thank you.
[01:59:45] Unknown:
And Eurofolk would have dropped off. We still have Global Voice Network, and the Rumble channel is still running. So
[01:59:54] Unknown:
Okay. Are we getting any chat messages through that Rumble channel lately, Paul?
[01:59:59] Unknown:
I have not checked. I need I need to do that. I've Oh, yeah. Had to reboot my computer this morning. It takes forty minutes to reboot my computer. Oh my god. You know, it's well, it's it's it's just got so much drive space tied onto it, and it's got so many things it does. It's just ridiculous.
[02:00:19] Unknown:
Wow. Okay. So Well, I'm glad I'm not overseeing that. Okay. We're in the after show now. Does anybody I mean, I guess these kind of shows can be beneficial. I try I don't like to get into contentious situations. I just wanna be a teacher. I wanna be a teacher. Right. I wanna be your friend. I I want us to have discourse together. Sometimes we don't agree. But but those are the relationships I like. I'm not here to defend mister Borch or attack his stuff. He made ugly remarks about me. As I said, that's fine. Anybody that knows me or my work knows he's only making a fool out of himself. If he wants to continue to do that, guess what? He'll get poorer. If he's concerned about not having job for a show today. He's about to not have Thank you. He's about to have less cash flow. Thank you, Alan. I'm glad you liked it.
Anyway, I don't want listen. If they wanna come back, we're here to answer questions to the public. If they wanna come back and ask some questions after they familiarize this with what we do here and know that it's totally different from their approach, and I don't know how many different ways. But if they will go do that and they wanna come back and ask questions, I'll be very civil with them and answer their questions to the best of my ability.
[02:01:39] Unknown:
Roger, what Roger, what was the what was the indifference, Roger, with you and, that guy, Darrell? What was the indifference there? If I missed the first part of the call. No. No. No. No. Please don't. Go back and listen to me. I don't wanna go back. Yeah. I hear you, Roger. I hear you. You don't wanna go back. Transcript. I hear you. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript. The transcript name there. Audio thing. Go indulge.
[02:02:01] Unknown:
Hey, bro. Audio. There's a transcript. All in it's all there.
[02:02:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, it's on there. I'm on there. Alright. Alright, buddy. It was some kind of a gorilla sneak attack. But, anyway, we'll we'll we'll forward it. Okay. Anybody else got anything today?
[02:02:17] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Roger.
[02:02:19] Unknown:
Alright. Dave is first. Dave, I hear you. Hold on. Dave and Sketch and maybe somebody else. Dave?
[02:02:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna say that I find it quite interesting that I didn't get any pushback when I when I accused, old Ed there from Georgia being an appointee. So I yield.
[02:02:38] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Sketch?
[02:02:40] Unknown:
Yep. I just wanted to give two compliments and one one comment. I found it interesting that he hadn't, Ed had never listened to what you had to say and haven't hadn't gone all over any of your material. I find that and I kinda knew it before I asked it, but I kinda it was very interesting. And two compliments. I wanna compliment you again for yesterday's show with the lovely lady. Yesterday, that was that was that was so enjoyable to listen to. And I wanna thank Paul for, paying homage to Spiro Agnew by saying the nattering nabobs of negativism.
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Thank you. I yield. Was that was that, what he's saying? The negative nabobs of negativism?
[02:03:28] Unknown:
The nattering nabobs of negativism. Yeah. They he was a pretty good guy or they wouldn't have taken him out, Spiro Agnon. Hey. He got he got to laugh in fickle finger of fate for putting the fun back into public speaking.
[02:03:43] Unknown:
There he is. He was a lousy golfer, though. He he he got So am I, Dave.
[02:03:49] Unknown:
A press conference. He he mentioned that, in a press conference when and I think he was getting into some trouble.
[02:04:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. He's a little little too honest, I think. A little too much what was going on. Was there somebody else that wanted to say something right there?
[02:04:09] Unknown:
Yes. Lady, Linda Louise.
[02:04:10] Unknown:
Linda, you're back. Okay, sweetie.
[02:04:13] Unknown:
If I may. Yeah. I had the heck heck of a time getting on today. I I did the call me with the, text, and I got disconnected timelessly over and over again. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. And Sherry had to put patch me in. Otherwise, I would not have been able to speak today. I would only be able to listen. So I don't know if that's a technical difficulty that is existing with other listeners, and they can't get to speak. If I didn't have Sherry, I would have been unable to speak today, and I yelled.
[02:04:44] Unknown:
Mercury is in retrograde, Linda.
[02:04:48] Unknown:
Oh, hi.
[02:04:50] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Joan. Yes, Joan.
[02:04:54] Unknown:
Yes. Did you say three minutes ago that Oh, Laura Marshall. That you invited, Ed in Georgia and Daryl and and LB back to the show if and they can ask questions? Is that what you said? If they'll go well, if they'll go familiarize
[02:05:17] Unknown:
myself with this with my work, yeah. Okay. Good. Thank you. Why I don't wanna ban them. Hell, I'm here to help people learn. But but but Ed today wasn't familiar with my stuff at all. He was just a Trojan horse. Raj? Yes.
[02:05:37] Unknown:
I don't know if anybody mentioned it, but today is Yam Skipper Day.
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Oh, is it Yom Kippur today? Yeah. Well, I wish you'd have said I wish you'd have started off the show with it. Today had been probably a much better show.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
Very important day. Get in? On Capella. Late. I'm sorry. I ain't got a phone call.
[02:05:58] Unknown:
Are you sure it is a damn Skippy day?
[02:06:02] Unknown:
Well, it's no. It's Yonkippy day. And if you'll drive past one of those Rena Fort reform synagogues, you you'll think it's a damn Mercedes dealership. Okay? So you go buy And the shutdown government
[02:06:16] Unknown:
our our shutdown government is getting paid for today's, holiday, the Jewish holiday, and our American government is has the day off. Even though the government's been shut down for a couple of days now. Isn't that special?
[02:06:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Sure is. I hope Trump is, chopping away. They're gonna get rid of a bunch of bureaucrats in whatever little time period we've got here evidently. And, you know, listen, speaking of the Jewish issue, I did not know, Stephen Miller was a Jew. I really admire that guy. K? I did not know, who's the guy that, always a lawyer and former Green Beret. He has an unusual name, Rat Ralph. I can't believe my man won't work. He it was he's a rat. Shit. He's got a very unusual
[02:07:12] Unknown:
name. Are you talking about that Jan guy, Jan?
[02:07:15] Unknown:
No. No. Niko Jan. No. This other guy that's always in The Philippines and stuff. That guy, Ivan Raikland, he's a Jew too. K? Now there's two real good Jews right there in the middle of the fight for same things we believe in. Alright? Hey, Raj. So we shouldn't paint with a broad brush. I'm more guilty of it than probably anybody. K? Yes, Paul?
[02:07:39] Unknown:
Figure out, how you say glutathione in Spanish and go get you some. Glutathione. It'll, like, detox detox, like, the like, the load on your brain and stuff and Yeah. Sharpen you up.
[02:07:57] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I Roger? Might have. Yes. Yes, Robbie.
[02:08:02] Unknown:
Yes. I'd I'd like to I did post in the chat the number one best podcast I have heard on Israel from very unexpected Tucker Carlson interviewing, oh gosh. My mind went blank. Jeffrey, Jeffrey Sachs. Kevin Black. I sent it to you. I sent it to you, Roger, and some other people. Please don't miss it. It is extraordinary, and Tucker is risking his life.
[02:08:36] Unknown:
I'm telling you what. Oh, you're not kidding. Al, any of these guys any of these guys are risking their lives. If you didn't know, they got finally on the tenth try, the onion and Bloomberg have got a hold of Infowars yesterday late yesterday. So they'll be moving everything to the other studio and seamlessly transitioning over there. That happened. What else is really important? We totally we totally hold on, Dave. We totally skipped over today. I can't believe no one has mentioned it. The FBI severed all ties with the ADL yesterday. No more ADL representatives.
No more ADL nothing. Severed. Next, I hope, is the Sodomy Pedophile Larceny Center down there in Montgomery. We'll see. That I will bet you as this not Octo January 6 stuff comes out, I will bet you a dollar to everything I own that Ray Epps was working for the SPLC. That's who hired him. K? I just know how these people work. I followed them for too many years. Okay, Dave. Go.
[02:09:48] Unknown:
Okay. Robbie, you asked me to critique that Infowars, with somebody. Who was that?
[02:09:56] Unknown:
Ezra Levant.
[02:09:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I I heard about well, the last maybe ten minutes of, Harrison's show yesterday, and he was on there. I might have been it was the replay from the day before.
[02:10:11] Unknown:
It was.
[02:10:13] Unknown:
And somebody called in and mentioned, they mentioned the the Chabad. And what did Ezra say? Oh, nobody. The Chabad is the truth about Chabad.
[02:10:30] Unknown:
Well well well, listen. You know, Chabad Libovitch is who Yeah. This big international Jew movement under Rabbi Schneerson is the one that he's talking to. Well, guess who else says the same thing about him? Brother Carpenter.
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Yo. You know what else? He said somebody said that a goy what is a goyim? A goy is a is a, a cow, a cattle. That is not true. And then the show kinda ended. Well, I've heard I don't know who he is. Some rabbi, multiple, multiple clips played on many shows saying, what is a goy? A goy is the end of a cucumber when you need two the kilo of cucumbers in the at the market, and they chop off an end because they can never, weigh it perfectly. They chop off the end and everybody steps on the end of the cucumber. That is what the goy is. That is a goy to a Jew. That's what this Jew freaking kike, rabbi says is a goy. No. That that's their situation. Everybody that's not a Jew is a goy. And That's their not only are they considered cattle, the beast of the field, they're the piece of the cucumber that gets chopped off, thrown away on the floor, and everybody steps on it, not yield.
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Well, what was interesting
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what was interesting, Dave, is that when Tucker Carlson was brought up to Ezra Levant, he said he was one of my ultimate heroes Correct. Until now until now. Well, what was the now? Because he knows the truth about Israel. So what else do we need to know about Ezra? He's controlled opposition, and I won't let up on that. Okay. Well,
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you can have that opinion. I totally disagree with you. I think he's he, he was raised in Calgary, Canada. There may not have been another damn Jewish family in the whole town. They him and his brothers and sisters were the only Jews in school. Okay? So he may his parents may have raised him totally differently over on the other side. I think that's overreach and overreaction on your part, but that's okay if you wanna have that opinion. Okay? Now whatever I was gonna say for you. Oh, I Roger. Please. I was I can't even go ahead, Joan.
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Do you know the name of the Jewish holiday where they are forgiven for all their past sins of the past year? Today. And also And also Yom Kippur. All their all their bad actions and sins of the next year.
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They're forgiven. Yom That's Yom Kippur. The day of atonement. Today.
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Thank you.
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They'll be swinging chickens today.
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Yeah. They'll be swinging some chickens out back for the festival.
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Hey, Roger. Believe. Yes. Roger. This is The reason I don't Hold on for a minute. The reason I didn't hear about the, ADL parting ways with the FBI is because they still control the mainstream, narrative. And, I punched it I punched, FBI and ADL part ways, and it's still talking about their partnership on a search engine. There's
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Yep. Well, the you can't expect them to correct page to find any info. You can't expect them to have correct that that quickly. It's very derogatory to them. But you want the there's a reason I listen to Infowars right there. Have you heard that anywhere else?
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Nope. Nope. And that's where I knew you got it. There's the for the audience,
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like Dave, and I agree with Dave, I I have a hard time listening to Alex at times, but that's the reason I listen to Infowars. They got the biggest audience. They're the big dog. If there's anything breaking or anything's got anybody that's really, really important, that that's where they're gonna try and get it to Alex. That's why I listen to them. K? I find Alex's style very offensive and abrasive. I try and understand it. He drives me absolutely bat shit crazy. He gets these people that nobody else in the world can get them on a radio show. He gets them on there, and then he won't let them finish a freaking sentence. Just absolutely drives me nuts. K? But it's what it is.
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Yes. What's the this before
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I'm I'm sorry.
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I'm trying to get this out or before I forget it. Tucker Carlson, I watched the first two episodes on 09:11 last night. Watch those. There's gonna be five of them. Very revealing. K? So I just wanted to get that out. Go ahead, Samuel.
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Yeah. Did you get to listen to Hegseth and Trump talking to all the brass?
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I heard some of those speeches. You have snips of it, and I didn't listen the whole thing.
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It was all warmongering all the time. At the same time, Trump wants to give himself the peace prize. These guys are gearing up to attack Iran. Well, I got you know, I mean,
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do you don't you don't you agree with this? You can't go help anybody if you're not strong?
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Why do we have to attack Iran?
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Well, I I I mean, just on the on the overall, you can't do anything unless you're strong, good or bad. And, we don't have any assets to attack Iran unless we use nuclear, and that's what they're gonna do, the way it looks to me. I hope not. I I they're cleaning up the military. Everybody's gonna have to go through the physical standards twice a year and mental stuff, I guess. And they're just cleaning up all the lackadaisical crap that got in there over the last few years when we were under absolute Trotsky communism.
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I
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missed it. Peter. Chris, you were trying to get in. I called it. Chris Chris was trying to get in a minute ago. Chris, I'm sorry. You got a real faint phone line always. I'm here. When you try and talk, please get all urine correct because it's just always faint. So go ahead, please.
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Is this okay?
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Yeah. Yeah. We hear you good now.
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Okay. Good. Good. Okay. I'm gonna leave drop these two things from the end of today. If somebody thinks that there aren't any Jews of great influence and and a multitude of them in Canada, watch the documentary. You'll only find it on Rumble or Bitchute, Off Your Knees, Germany. Off Your Knees, Germany. Watch that, and your eyes will be opened as to what's going on with the Jews in Germany and has been for a long time. I'm just on the second note on the second note, I have the scripture for the day. It's Matthew six verse 23, King James version.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore, the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness? These people, we know who they are. They worship someone who they think is god, but he's not. He's from down below. And that person is bloodthirsty and was out of bloodshed, and they think that the more bloodshed they give him, the more power he'll give them. And they think that by having an a complete all out war in the world, it will force their messiah to come to Earth. They're completely deceived.
It's just amazing how great the darkness is with these people. So I'll just leave it there. Just keep in prayer and keep your own nose clean.
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Well, that's best we can do. Try and live our life and live it under the dictates we know that are real, and it it does make life very fulfilling. I'll tell you. It's better than wandering around, wondering who you stole from, who you've lied to, who you've anything else after you're always looking over your shoulder. That's just no way to live life. Okay? That's the way they do, but that's no way to live life. So, who else here has got something? I I just I I I I feel I I I really resent the way that they did that today. And come on here and start discussing stuff, and they've never even looked at my stuff or have any idea of it. Who I it really the grace be the wrong way, Paul. Go ahead.
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It's terribly unfair. It'd be unfair. Anyway, Ernst Zundel, off your knees, Germany. Oh, yeah. There is There is a great Ernst? Yeah. Ernst Zundel. Off your knees. He's fantastic. Yep. He's a 2,006 documentary. Oh, that was done the same day my bus was built. Anyway or the same year anyway. When history comes to you enforced by law, only one thing is certain. It's true. It's a lie.
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Yep. Yeah. Ernst, I talked to his girl. You know, he was married to an American. Do you know that? Really? He was living up around Knoxville. And it was David Chertoff, was the head of of a criminal, DOJ. And they came and grabbed his ass totally illegally, threw him to Canada, and then took him over to Germany to stand trial on these charges of just, you know, dissing the holocaust, basically. And he spent five years in a German jail over there. Kinda like David Irving. David Irving, they've never thrown in jail. They've just absolutely ruined his life.
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No. I think I thought he was No. Both he and his sister went to jail.
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Not to my knowledge. Talking about something else. Yes.
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They didn't they didn't handle on the show.
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Do do hold it. Both of you are talking the same time. Chris, and then I'll get to you sketch. Chris, what was your comment?
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Get Ernst on the show.
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I had Ernst on the show?
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No. Get him. Get him on the show. He's dead. Are you sure?
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I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Okay. Sketch?
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Yes. There's somebody in jail right now in Germany, and he doesn't deserve being railroading. That's right near the village.
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But Jay yeah. The the attorney. They had a 90 year old woman that they're trying to accuse of Holocaust shit that was in jail. 90 years old.
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Yeah. She died. But he he's still in good spirits. There was a report yesterday from him in jail. And, let's just pray for him that he he he, gets some, some justice. I doubt it.
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I just people are just they're freaking out. Did go to jail in Austria, Roger, for three years. Okay. Oh, I did not know that, Paul. I did not know that. If I did, I don't didn't remember it. But, oh, yeah. They'll they'll mess with you. Austria. Good guy. I saw him in Atlanta and in South Florida once about five times. He had every time he's in The US, he came to Atlanta. And I was in this circle of people, and I'd get notified, and there'd be some place he was having a meeting. They couldn't, of course, announce it publicly. And, I I think I signed him about five times. I'll tell you one thing. Mister Irving really liked the ladies.
Because if you were at the book table and you had a low cut dress on, you got his full attention. K? Mhmm. So, a good guy, though. A little little egotistical scene, but I can understand all that. Yes. Who else?
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Roger.
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Joan. Faithful Joan. Yes. Yes. Yes, dear.
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Okay. So the Nazi in Germany, are they really the Jews? Are there Jews, the Nazis? Because that's why if that way everything went after
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Hitler had Jews in the Reich. Some of them had high rank. Hey. Sounds like my cousin Vinny.
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Who invited a train?
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A stupid
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train.
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He he had Jewish, generals. There were Jewish people in the Reich. The Nazis were Germans, not Jews, most of the time. But just like these, like Stephen Miller and and some of these guys, they have the same ideologies and stuff that we do even though they're Jewish, I guess. Hell, Jonah, I don't have an answer to all that stuff.
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Okay. I just thought because, you know, how Germany like, I'm learning that Hitler was actually good and but yet every a lot of people think the Nazis are bad. Oh, you Nazi. Oh, you're bad. Okay. Well, let me give you a good example.
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Let me give you a good example. Okay? You know, Germany went over and conquered France. Right? They took over Paris. Right?
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Okay.
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Yeah. There were no rapes in Paris when the Germans were occupying Paris. The rape started after the Americans took over.
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Okay.
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Okay. General Patton said, the German he said we fought the wrong side in this war. The Germans are the most decent people in Europe. That's general George Patton.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But but but what what I'm saying is the not the word Nazi has a bad, meaning. And I'm thinking it's I'm wondering if it's because the Jews are really the nots. I mean, they're really they in other words, they did that switch around. The Zionist are.
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Well, yeah. The Zionists are really they're gonna call you what they are.
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Yeah. That's what I'm getting at.
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Yeah. Well, I don't I don't disagree with that. But except the Jews well, you must have two factions of Judaism. You got a a a fascist faction, and then you got a communist faction. The the Trotskyites, that's worldwide Jewry. That's all the the the the horrors that went on in Bolshevik, Russia. That's Trotskyite Judaism right there. And it's horrible.
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Yeah. And then they went to Germany and did and did the same thing. Well, they tried to go to Germany and who
[02:25:46] Unknown:
and and this is when Antifa was formed. We're talking about it yesterday. Antifa was formed in the thirties in Germany. The communist fighting the Trotskyite communist fighting the fascists. That's where Antifa came from. You can see all pictures of it. Same flag.
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Mhmm.
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Okay?
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Thank you.
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Thank you. I am so glad that I researched the fourteenth amendment. I did a deep dive into it yesterday, and it is bullshit from one end to the other. Sure it is. I am so I'm so glad I I dug into that.
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Ed sounds like a nice guy. He he they familiarize yourself with our material. They got legitimate questions. I don't have any problem addressing them. I I did not after being told no how many times? From me directly, no. No. For at least three or four. And then calling you yesterday with your stuff, and then they come in under a Trojan horse of somebody that, Ed, we don't know, has never familiarized herself with my material coming onto my show and wanting to well, he says ask questions. I I I'm sorry if I took it a little bit harshly because I told them no.
K? They're worse than the damn Jews. You tell them no, they stand mute, go away. So anyway, alright. We'll be back tomorrow with Brent. Saturday, Larry's gonna come on and do his tax thing for these few people that have got this consistent problem of, of not filing returns to match the withholding statements. I think that's the problem. Anyway, Paul, you got anything else, buddy? You gotta go do that on the show this afternoon.
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Yep. I'm gonna have to set up, Paul English live today at 3PM eastern.
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So Well, that's not too far off. We'll give give I don't know if I'll be able to listen. Give the old boy our best, and, they'll you'll have a bit to talk about today. Ask Paul the last time there's a shooting by the police in England that he knows of.
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Roger?
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Well, there's Rick. Yes, sir.
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George Patton is buried in Luxembourg. They didn't even want him in Arlington Cemetery.
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Is that right? Boy, I didn't know that. They boy, if you're an enemy, they will absolutely stomp you and rub their heel on you. They have a such a vindictive nature, these bastards. Yes.
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Do you remember the movie Brass Target?
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No. Never heard of it.
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It was, Patton in that was played by George Kennedy, and Klaus von Sydow played the assassin. And at that accident, what they did is that was an, a rubber bullet according to that movie, which is, of course, supposedly fictitious that struck Patton in the neck to break his neck. Right. And not leave a bullet wound.
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Right. So Could be. Don't Yeah. Out there. I'm I know they wanted to get rid of him real bad.
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Boy, could you imagine him? Was well, the fender bender, everybody says, and, supposedly, he hit his head on something metal inside the car, but, I mean, that guy was tough.
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They wanted Eisenhower to be president in his lifetime. They wanted Eisenhower to be president, not Patton. Yep. Okay. Anybody else got something for Follow-up. I have I have something, Roger. Follow-up. Alright. John first, please. And I'll I'll get a yes, John.
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Okay. When you when back when a few minutes ten minutes, however minute, you were talking to Samuel, and Samuel was talking to you, and you said about Iran. You said, what was your didn't you give a reason for why,
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we Well, I it may be. That may be the underlying reason. That may be the underlying reason they're doing all that, but I just wanted to add that there you you can't do anything if you're weak. These are overweight people, high red, high who spike heels in the military. I don't want people in supposedly defending the country that are out of shape, or or or or queer or anything else. Do you?
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I I thought you said that there was a reason to go in and clean up Iran to just bomb them. Well, there was. Biden and them have ruined the military.
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They let fags in. They don't have to adhere to any weight requirements, height requirements, mentally health requirements. He's instituting all those things back. Is that bad?
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No. I thought you said Iran was bad for a reason and with the reason to bomb them. Oh, John. No. No, John. Who who was the other guy who was trying to say something?
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Yes, sir. Trying to be at your service.
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Okay. Jerry.
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Okay, Jerry. What you got?
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Yeah. I was just, wanting to ask Paul if he had downloaded the congressional record of 1967, the ninetieth Congress, where it talks about the fourteenth amendment.
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Is that John Rarick from Louisiana?
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No. This is Jerry from Carlsbad, New Mexico.
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I under oh, Jerry. I understand. But I'm saying the speech in Congress, wasn't that congressman Rarick? I believe he was from Shreveport. I believe that's who gave that speech that you're referring to.
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The congressional record of the ninetieth congress of nineteen sixty seventh?
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Yes. Yes. I think was right.
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I think it was rare. Okay? It was on the fourteenth amendment. Yeah. I don't know if Paul's downloaded it. I've been aware of it for a long time. It's just good. Paul, have you got that in Yeah. Anywhere we've got stuff?
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I I think I have it on a local hard drive. I I think I have all of the, the congressional record, all of the books, as far as that.
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Oh, I'll look for it. And I think he he did that whole thing live to you don't know if they just submitted it for the record or if they were talking to congress generally with that. But it identifies the speaker as speaker Rarick. Yes, Jerry. Right. Yeah. That's all. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, man. Alright. Anybody else? What a tongue twister today, Paul. Absolutely. Well, maybe something good came out of it. If not, I I I just don't like shows like that. K? I'm sorry, personally. But, anyway, so I'm gonna go on down the rail and see if any of these Ecuadorians call me bad names or anything.
I don't think they will. They're pretty nice folks. So, I'll, see y'all tomorrow with Brent. Okay?
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Okay.
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Alright. Thank you, Paul. Good luck over there with Paul today.
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Oh, yes. Yeah. I'm Okay. I have to bail water out of my bathtub because it's backing up from the from the sewer. And the sewer and the plumber guy won't be here until between five and six tonight. So And it was in your bathtub? Yeah. It's backing up. The the sewer's plugged up. So every time somebody does something upstairs, it backs up into my tub. So I have to bail it out. So
[02:34:09] Unknown:
I'm so sorry, man. Oh, let's get your ass to Georgia. Okay? We need to get y'all down to Georgia. I'll, I'll see y'all tomorrow with Brent. Have a good day, Saturday. We'll have Larry back with that, and we'll kinda make a production out of it. And, hopefully, it'll There we go. Nip nip this little iris flare up in the bud. Okay? Like like Barney. Nip it in the bud, Barney.
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Nip it in the bud. Nip it. See you, man. Bud. Ciao. I am I'm downloading a a complete collection of, Michael Hoffman books, including ones that have been banned. I'm just grabbing them all. We're gonna we're gonna have a Michael Hoffman folder up on, Google Drive. Alright. Who wants to, continue the conversation? Otherwise, I will take the stream down and start preparing for Paul English. Otherwise, I don't have to take it down before 02:00. And
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If, Does Michael Hoffman have a substack?
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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There are, there's a number of books, though. Number of them. Right. What's one of the books can you you They Were White and They Were Slaves.
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Pardon?
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They Were White and They Were Slaves. Okay. The Secret History of the, Holocaust Trials, Judaism Strange Gods, number number of, very interesting titles.
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Okay.
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Yeah. He's quite the guy. A New Yorker originally, I think. He was a journalist. Secret. He's in Idaho now. Secret societies and psychological
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warfare from 1992.
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Yes. He does have a Substack. I will post it, in the chat, and you can include that with all your info if you want.
[02:36:27] Unknown:
Really? Thank you.
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What is Substack? If you don't mind my asking, I've never heard of Sub Substack How do you get that?
[02:36:36] Unknown:
Well, you go to I I guess you look up Substack. You look up a name, and you go Substack. And if they have a Substack, well, you can get it that way through a search engine. Substack is a, a, platform where writers produce their work and, it's more freely. It's sometime it's at the, you have to buy them a coffee or pay a weekly it's how independent writers can make money, but some of them don't charge and they they want their info to get out so you go there where they write versus, you know, it's their own personal website for their writings or videos or whatever they do.
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Thank you. I'm gonna have to check that out. Yep.
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May I? May I, lady Linda Louise? May I?
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Nah.
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Hello?
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What?
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Oh, okay. I didn't hear you. I didn't know. Were you under the impression that, Daryl's, motorcycle was to have Bork publicly apologize to Roger?
[02:37:53] Unknown:
I don't know. It never happened. It never it never happened, but but, hey, you know, Bork's hand was up for some time. You know? Right. But he was still muted.
[02:38:04] Unknown:
Know. I want you to know that has never come up in any of the administrative calls. He never said that was his modus operandi. And he and Sandy, were totally in favor of these two men getting together to talk out the differences. There was never a mention of an apology. And, David, the thumb, I thank you because if you're still listening, I did not know that book also called him a fraud on the Republic call. Can you imagine we had Roger on our call a couple of times? People became nationals with Roger's process. And now this listener this new presenter is calling Roger a fraud. Can you imagine how that shook up everybody who went through Roger's paperwork?
It was disgusting.
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Yeah. I'm sure. And it it was no doubt, I don't know. I just don't see the importance of the two synchronizing their, their stories and processes just because somebody got a wild hair up his ass and wants the same truth on every freaking platform. I I just don't get it. I'd
[02:39:21] Unknown:
Well I don't get it. Puzzles me is that, Daryl never said that was his objective. Never. Not even when No. I told him that was necessary.
[02:39:32] Unknown:
I told him that was necessary if pork was gonna come on the show. I talked to him yesterday at great length. Correct. I talked to him for, like, a half hour yesterday before the show, and I said, here's the deal. This is the way it's gonna be. Bork comes on. First thing he's going to do is he's gonna he's gonna come up with the evidence, supporting his claims that Roger was a fraud and that his information doesn't work. That's gonna happen first. And what happened? Ed in Ed in Georgia was the one that came up and ran interference for Bork.
[02:40:08] Unknown:
Correct. And that was planned, I'm sure, between Darryl, Sandra, Sandy, and and Ed. And when Ed said he didn't know Darryl Link, I mean, how preposterous
[02:40:20] Unknown:
is that when he's on the Republic call bloviating with Daryl? Okay. So you're so you're saying that Daryl Daryl and Ed have been on the Republic on the same Republic calls and both talked, at this during those episodes.
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Weeks as Dave can testify. And, Sandy has likewise. So what reason? When when Ed when Ed said he doesn't know Daryl and Sandy introduced him to the call, it's like Daryl and Sandy are one. You know? So I I can't stand liars. And this whole thing Okay. Yes. I just wanna say it's taken me ten years to know what a narcissist, the big f is. And now it's taken me from 2019 to 2025 to see the lack of character in the big d. You can use that d for whatever you want to call the big d. I yield.
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Yes. I I wanted to say one word, and then, Paul, in the chat is Michael Hoffman's substack. One word. It's called integrity. Ethics. They don't have it. You could tell right off. Pissed me off. Coming on coming on Roger's show. I hadn't even heard a word from Roger's, any of his recordings. That's his epics, integrity. None of it. They don't have it.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
Thank you, Sketch. Yes. I agree. I think I think they just came on to, promote and validate Bork because that's all Ed was talking about was what what he what he had learned from reading Pork's book. Of course. They're promoting Pork's book is what they're doing. Oh,
[02:42:24] Unknown:
but then again That's exactly what they do on on the Republic call. You know, Bork talks for about five minutes, and then that Ed mister Ed, he he interrupts him and takes over the call, and he goes for the whole call, like, an hour and a half Right. Nonstop.
[02:42:43] Unknown:
It's kinda like beating a dead horse named Ed. It is. Mister Ed.
[02:42:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Retire already. You're dead.
[02:42:56] Unknown:
Put him out to pasture. That's what they did with the other mister Ed, isn't it?
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This is, Paul from Kentucky.
[02:43:08] Unknown:
Hey, Paul.
[02:43:10] Unknown:
Hey. Great name. Thank you. Yeah. I figured you recognize that. You know, I do appreciate everything Roger does, and I do sit in on some of Daryl's calls. And I've known Daryl for many years. I would hate to think that he was doing anything with ill intent. It might have turned out that way, but I I have a hard time believing that's what his intention was. But it could be. I don't know. But I and and I do appreciate how Roger likes to keep us out of the system. But for a guy who has got several cases that are five to seven years old and, you know, the courts I was speaking with a gentleman just stalling me is pretty much what they're doing.
I wish that I could find a source that could help me move the needle or or push this thing through, unclog the drain, so to speak. You know, because I'm so in I'm so in woven in the web. It's it's it's either go go the distance or or, you know, I don't know what to do, but I wish that I would have known Roger's procedure seven or eight years ago. I know that I would not have had near the difficulties and and delays that I'm having today. But, unfortunately, back then, I just kinda, you know, followed the yellow brick road, so to speak. And and it's just seven years later, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm no better off than I was seven years ago, to be honest. So I'm trying to find, some remedy I mean, some some strategies, where my cases are right now to seek remedy because they're of the civil case, and I'm trying to seek remedy for the damages caused against me.
[02:45:15] Unknown:
Okay. What alright. So what did you do seven years ago?
[02:45:22] Unknown:
Well, it's not necessarily what I did. I had a gentleman working with me, who breached his judiciary duties, and he created a lot of fraud in my company. And, I mean, we we we parted ways, but, we parted ways, but I, you know, I had to turn around and and and sue him, you know, in civil court. And it that that started seven years ago. And because I'm going up against several attorneys, these are several parties involved. You know, they're stalling me. It's pretty much what they're doing. And the courts the courts here in Kentucky are failureing are failing to do process. So it's like, you know, your drains clogged, and and you've got evidence of it because it's backing up. But until somebody listens to you, until somebody calls the plumber, you're pretty much you're gonna have a clogged drain from now till, you know, now for another seven years. You know? If nobody listens to you and and nobody nobody does anything where it just it's it just it becomes very stagnant, and I've got more than one case like that, unfortunately.
[02:46:51] Unknown:
Where people have my original question. What was filed on your behalf? What do you have as far as status or or anything that you have done? Did you do anything seven years ago?
[02:47:09] Unknown:
Civil complaint in circuit court or district circuit court. And, you know, it's been before a judge. It's and the judge pretty much just keeps delaying it. Or when I put a motion in for summary judgment or whatever, I'm denied. Like I say, the whole due process, when it comes to being a pro se here in in in the Louisville area, is I mean, the judges just pretty much do what they wanna do. It's terrible. It's pathetic. Move it to I mean, I've been I've been to court I've been to court in one case 44 times, and 44 times I was denied.
[02:47:50] Unknown:
Did you ever, get the try to get the judge removed and get a new judge?
[02:47:57] Unknown:
Yeah. I even tried that, and I was denied.
[02:48:01] Unknown:
Take it to federal court then.
[02:48:04] Unknown:
Okay. But when I go to federal court, I that that's great because you know that you must know that process. I don't when I go to federal court, I don't I don't even know the first step to take. I guess, obviously, filing a claim or a complaint, but, I mean, do I go to federal court on a class action? Or I don't even know how to go about doing that. So
[02:48:27] Unknown:
You need a course on civil procedure. You need to know civil procedures.
[02:48:32] Unknown:
Okay. Federal court civil procedure?
[02:48:35] Unknown:
I didn't say federal. I just rules of civil procedure in any court. You need to understand that or you're not gonna be successful.
[02:48:45] Unknown:
Well, I I get that, but it it's like if you don't know, you don't know. That makes sense. So, you know yeah. And I don't know. So right now in the lower courts or or in the court of appeals or I've got one of them in the Supreme Court. I got another one getting ready to go to the Supreme Court. But, again, they're just they're just basically bouncing them around because the attorney the the opposed attorneys know their clients are guilty of something, if not everything that I've claimed in my complaint or my claim. And so the the attorneys are just, you know, buddies with the judges, and they're just stalling.
[02:49:33] Unknown:
You know? Know how to argue stand.
[02:49:38] Unknown:
Right. I prob arguing what now? I'm sorry. You cut out for a second there.
[02:49:42] Unknown:
Standing.
[02:49:45] Unknown:
As far as
[02:49:48] Unknown:
my standing or standing is and If you don't if you have to ask that question of what standing is, then you are not in any shape to represent yourself in any kind of an action. You need to research the civil procedures, court civil procedures.
[02:50:07] Unknown:
Do that now. I appreciate that. Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. That's the best suggestion anybody's given me so far. All those I mean, let's be doing something right or they still wouldn't be active after seven years because if you've seen the way that the courts under handedly have tried to be deceptive,
[02:50:30] Unknown:
you you know, I mean, at least
[02:50:32] Unknown:
praise God. By the grace of God, they're still all active, and and and they're in they're in some kind of standing because the judges have tried all kinds of ways. I've had I've got one case where, banking institutions committed fraud, and the attorneys asked to be dismissed, and the judge dismissed them. And he won't give a reason why.
[02:51:01] Unknown:
Paul, being or not, you have something on civil procedures on the website. I think you do. I heard
[02:51:09] Unknown:
oh, I can look for it.
[02:51:12] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure you got some kind of, blank or or manuscript or something on that on the website. I've heard it mentioned it before.
[02:51:25] Unknown:
Well, actually, it has bunch of, books I can actually, find rules of civil procedure and see if it's available.
[02:51:39] Unknown:
Supreme Court rule Supreme Court, civil procedure or procedures Supreme Court is seventeen and eighteen.
[02:51:50] Unknown:
Well, there's civil procedure in your court. Supreme Court. There's there's civil procedure in any court.
[02:51:58] Unknown:
Right.
[02:51:59] Unknown:
But two of the most important ones for the Supreme Court are seventeen and eighteen.
[02:52:06] Unknown:
And research standing. If you don't have standing, they're not gonna hear you.
[02:52:12] Unknown:
Well, I'll have to check into that. I think I do have standing. I just think they're they're doing everything they can not to hear it because ignorance is bliss. And if they hear it, then they have to do something. So they've done everything they can not to not to hear it. They've definitely created a lot of confusion. I promise you. Okay. There's the federal rules of civil proceed. Your time in I yield. Alright. I appreciate that. What what state are you in again?
[02:52:46] Unknown:
Kentucky. Okay. Let me see if I can find Kentucky rules and civil proceed because I already have the federal rules on the way.
[02:52:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Just look at just search Kentucky rules and civil procedure. I'm sure it's a huge volume.
[02:53:04] Unknown:
And several people have been very helpful from this call. I know, I don't even know. I haven't heard from him in forever, but, the gentleman up in Spokane, Sheldon. He's been helpful, and mister Garcia has been very helpful, you know, to answer some questions. But, you know, as things evolve, different circumstances come up. So
[02:53:32] Unknown:
Well,
[02:53:33] Unknown:
all I can say is I hope your organizational, paperwork is organized. All the the the the information about the the crooked judge and and the crooked process has to be documented
[02:53:49] Unknown:
in order Oh, yes.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
Okay. I yield.
[02:53:53] Unknown:
And and, I think it was Mark, one of the paralegals on here, talked about how to set up your files in your computers, and I really appreciate that. And I went back through, and I re reorganized mine according to the way Mark explained it.
[02:54:11] Unknown:
Hey, Paul.
[02:54:13] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:54:14] Unknown:
I think, you know, after seven years, you may have to consult with my two favorite brothers, mister Smith and mister Wesson.
[02:54:24] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. No. I well, would you believe it or not, the main character in this case who who really committed the fraud with the other characters has died. It's been going on so long.
[02:54:41] Unknown:
Now that doesn't surprise me. So
[02:54:44] Unknown:
so, you know, we if if this thing would've lasted three years and we would've gotten some kind of remedy, he would've still been alive. But in the fifth year, he he, contracted, congestive heart failure and passed away. You know? So now I'm fighting his estate. Of course, there's a couple family members who are involved, and so on and so forth. I may if I could learn how to do it or if I if I comprehended it better, I do think that in a lot of ways, and I don't know how to get it from, let's say, the court of appeals or the supreme court into a federal court. But I do believe three of my five cases, I have a true conspiracy to commit fraud, which would include the judges considering the judges failed to due process.
And when I asked for findings and facts and conclusions of law, failed to deliver that. They just ignored it. They didn't they they just when you sent it in, they never responded. You sent it in again, they just never responded. You know? Okay. They dismissed a party who I have evidence that committed fraud, a lending institution, a banking institution, let's say, like US Bank. And, the attorney said, well, we don't we don't really wanna be a part of this. Can you just let us go home? And the judge says, dismissed. And I said, well, why did you do that, judge? And never got an answer. Well Through findings of facts and conclusions of law.
[02:56:22] Unknown:
Okay. The reason that the judge did that is because the courts and the banks are joined at the hip. Oh, I totally agree with that. You're never going to get, you're never gonna get satisfaction out of any court unless you really, really know your stuff and you absolutely, positively have the evidence down and everything else. Yeah. Even then, you've got a 10% chance of winning against the bank. It It just doesn't happen.
[02:56:54] Unknown:
Well, the good news is this. So when it got dismissed at the at the local level, when it went to the court of appeals, I was able to bring them back into the case. So they're now back in, and they've not they've not, been able to get cut loose yet in the court of appeals. So Right. I'm grateful for that. And I'm grateful for you all today. Thank you for giving me some suggestions, and I'll, I'll,
[02:57:24] Unknown:
start doing more homework.
[02:57:26] Unknown:
Thanks again, guys. You might look up the term compelling performance that comes to mind.
[02:57:32] Unknown:
What is it? I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. Could you repeat that? Compelled performance.
[02:57:37] Unknown:
Compelled performance. That that that's another good one. Thank you. I forgot about that one. Okay, guys. I'm gonna have to take ideal. I'm gonna have to take the stream down because I only have about forty five minutes to set up the, set up everything for Paul English live. I'm gonna be doing all kinds of things. I'm gonna be, resetting network connections and, taking down rumble, and I'm going to be resetting the conference room and everything else. I will be broadcasting Paul English live in the main room of the PPN Radio Ranch room on free conference call. Anyways, thank you so much for joining us for the Roger Sales Radio Ranch program for Thursday, October is it the second today, or is it the?
It's the second or the? It's the second. Honestly, I never thought I'd I I I would've thought I would've screwed that up. Thanks for joining us. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:58:59] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Opening banter, show intro, and network roll call
Broadcast platforms, radio vs. video, Roger’s radio roots
Life path, love of talk radio, and ‘freedom from slavery’ mission
News riff: UK stabbing, guns vs. stabbings, and social turmoil
Tony Blair, digital ID, and geopolitics segue
Caller Larry: Netanyahu, social media ‘as a weapon,’ TikTok/X
Social media skepticism and word-of-mouth advocacy
Beach ‘squeak sand’ detour and Florida panhandle geology
Checking for new students; community housekeeping
Caller Ed (Atlanta) introduces LB Bork and ‘war amendments’
Point of conflict: charging for freedom vs. affecting change
Deep dive: ‘person’ in law and the 14th Amendment first sentence
APA basics, three types of regulations, and mask mandate example
Escalation: debate over public policy, extra-constitutional regs
Feudal system, renouncing citizenship, and jurisdiction angle
Community weighs in: process, passports, Social Security distinctions
Demand for proof: ‘fraud’ accusation and call for evidence
Pivot to practical: IRS Schedule OI/1040-NR teaser and resources
New student guidance, ‘come out of her’ theme, status correction
Why the host rejects a platform for Bork; free vs. paid remedies
Fourteenth Amendment focus: first sentence vs. the rest
Audience backlash: integrity, moderation, and moving on
Re-centering: passports as ‘way out of the system’ and headlines
Dogma vs. facts; parallel legal ‘tracks’ after the 14th Amendment
Bumper stickers, humor, and the decision to drop the topic
Alternative gurus critique (Strait, Anna Von), caution to learners
Hour two end; aftershow begins: tech, Rumble, and housekeeping
Yom Kippur aside, ADL/FBI split claim, and media takes
Tucker, Israel discourse, and controlled opposition accusations
Holocaust speech laws, dissident historians, and prosecutions
Nazis, Zionists, Antifa origins, and WWII narratives
Listener legal struggles: civil procedure, standing, and courts
Wrap-up of legal advice thread; transition to next show prep
Sign-off stinger: Global Voice Radio Network