On today’s Radio Ranch, I unpack why October so often becomes a pressure point for markets, using time-and-tanker analogies to size up America’s debt (on- vs. off‑budget) and what a credit freeze could look like for everyday folks. We dig into practical preparedness too: simple vehicle “pre‑trip” checks to avoid roadside hassles, situational awareness in unsettled times, and why freedom always rides with personal responsibility. We also revisit the legal notion of “person,” jurisdiction, and presumptions in law (including the mailbox rule) so new students can spot—and rebut—assumptions that entangle them. From there, we range across money and rails: Basel III, SWIFT, BRICS chatter, gold/silver vs. Bitcoin and stablecoins, and what tokenized rails (XRP/XLM/XDC, etc.) might mean, alongside the reality that dollars still dominate daily life. We close by pointing you to our live streams and allied platforms, and remind newcomers: the first step out of financial servitude isn’t drama—it’s documents, diligence, and doing the little things right every day.
- 'Radio Soapbox (live stream)': https://radiosoapbox.com
- 'Euro Folk Radio': https://eurofolkradio.com
- 'HomeNetwork.TV': https://homenetwork.tv
- 'StreamLife.Tube': https://streamlife.tube
- 'International Man (Doug Casey)': https://internationalman.com
- 'International Living': https://internationalliving.com
- 'Bonner Private Research (Bill Bonner)': https://www.bonnerprivateresearch.com
- 'Basel III overview — Bank for International Settlements': https://www.bis.org/bcbs/basel3.htm
- 'SWIFT (payments network) — official site': https://www.swift.com
- 'Ripple (XRP issuer) — official site': https://ripple.com
- 'Stellar Development Foundation (XLM) — official site': https://stellar.org
- 'XDC Network — official site': https://xdc.org
- 'Solana — official site': https://solana.com
- 'Hedera — official site': https://hedera.com
- 'Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy)': https://www.strategy.com
- 'PenguinSix (DC street reporting & walks)': https://penguinsix.com
- 'The Documents (RattleTrap1776 resources)': https://thedocuments.info
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Unknown:
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[00:01:51] Unknown:
Oh, Alvin. Alvin. Alvin. If you're still alive, you'd just be beside yourself. Anyway, we're trying to make up the ground there for you, buddy, and see if we can change it a little bit. You're long gone in the grave rolling in it. No doubt at current events. Good morning to you on the Wednesday edition. It's the September 24. That's, you look at the calendar. October's one week away from today, folks. Roger Sales, your host at the Radio Ranch. The reason I say that, of course, is because October is the devil's month, and there's just historical chicanery galore that happens in October. Paul, would you come forward, please, and let's get all the folks, credited that, help us extend our message of freedom all over the globe.
[00:02:38] Unknown:
Oh, yes. I can do that. Good morning. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. And we're on Global Voice Radio Network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is, thematrixdocs.com, and you can use that website to grab the free conference call links and actually join us live on the show. All are welcome. Come on. Come all. We're also on one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, go live TV, and streamlife.tube. They, grab our signal and spray it.
Part of the NET family of broadcast services. Morning, Raj.
[00:03:40] Unknown:
Morning, Paul. Chicago is what we used to call it. Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. One week away from October, folks. I mean, you know, we've been talking about this financial thing. It's gonna be the biggest in the history of the planet because there's never been a bubble this big. And, to pop as they say. And, it's not gonna happen like two minutes ago and then everything's destitute. It's a big, huge oh, god, whatever it is that they've built here. You know, the old, we've talked about this before, I think, Paul, but the proper analogy here is to an oil tanker.
And, those things are like 600 yeah. Well, 600 yards long, you know, full of oil, and they're out on the one of the major, bodies of water, and they go to make a turn. Well, they don't turn that thing on a dime. K? It it they have to start a mile before the turn to start the turn because there's so much weight inertia and all that stuff there. And it's kinda a good analogy for what we're at here with this economy. It's so laden with leaven. And, those of you who, you know, if you're new, the all these you can trace all these things straight back to the Bible every time. K? No exception that I found. And, what we're dealing with now is what Christ called the leaven of the Pharisees.
Leaven of the Pharisees. Probably some of you have heard that before, may not have had it applied. But, these guys, I'm gonna give you the example. Of course, leaven is yeast, makes bread rise. You know, I can honestly Paul, I remember my grandmother in a little old my house my mama grew up in and, don't run through the kitchen, you know, when she's baking and stuff because it makes that bread fall. And that's yeast. And so leaven is yeast. And so what they've done when they pulled the string on this on 03/09/1933, evidently in the bond market. So what they did was they took the bonds from the old United States Of America obligation, obligor obligee, and, they flipped it. And now the whole thing was done on the federal United States with you as the collateral for the paper money. And, that was on 03/09/1933.
So that's how long these people have been in control, and they've leavened up just on books, on budget. They've leavened up $37,000,000,000,000 worth of debt. Mhmm. That's the leaven of the Pharisees from zero. It started at zero in '33. They had to cash all the other ones out, bring out the new ones. It's what they'd been saving birth certificates for for twelve years, thirteen years. You know, the birth certificate federal act was done in 1921, I believe. And, so they had, what, twelve years of, birth certificates piled up there. The people that went ahead and had them done, and those were, you know, you know, of course, with other things too, the collateral for the new paper.
And so that's when this thing starts, '33, and they have leavened up. Now this is just on budget debt, Paul. 37,000,000,000,000. Now we we hear these numbers thrown around, and it's hard to get your arms around the size of this because we can't imagine those numbers. Alright? But I'm gonna tell you a way that you can at least somewhat get your arms around them, And that is to convert dollars to seconds because everybody can relate to time. K? And so $1,000,000 is eleven and a half. You converted it to seconds, is eleven and a half days.
That's a million. A billion is like thirty three and a half years, and a trillion is, like, three hundred and thirty years. So that's just 1,000,000,000,000. A a million and then a billion is a million a bill a billion is a million million. And then a trillion is a million billion. So we're talking about numbers that you we cannot fathom. Okay? But they can fathom them because they don't turn them into seconds. They turn them into dollars. Hold on, Boris. They turn them into dollars, and then they make money on thin air out of thin air there. Compounding interest, compounding on other interest that's been created out of thin air. That's where they make money out of thin air is in the compounding interest deal. But, boy, they got a lot of that going on. And that's just the on budget numbers. The off budget numbers, they say goes up to 200,000,000,000,000 in Social Security and all the other things. So, folks, we are and that is a all done on debt because the that that this that amount of debt's gotta be serviced. So when they can't service the debt, it locks up. They gotta refinance it or or get it serviced somehow or it locks up. And then that's what we're going into is a credit freeze.
Bori, what do you have, buddy? Bori?
[00:09:07] Unknown:
Bori, I good morning, Bori. Bori. Bori, I think the $1,000,000,000,000 every second for $1 every second is thirty two thousand years.
[00:09:19] Unknown:
But it's a whole bunch of time. Okay? It's just a whole bunch of time. Yeah. So that you may you may be right. Okay? But we can't imagine the amount of this wealth that's been floating around out there. Okay? And, that's what's go up against the wall, and October may be the month. I bring that up because traditionally, of course, it is the month, October 1929. Of course, everybody knows, etcetera etcetera. Excuse me. But, anyway, that's where we are right there. And, and we're right about just to just so it coincides real good. We're right about to start a civil war, it appears too.
So,
[00:10:00] Unknown:
a financial crash Oh, man. I'm
[00:10:03] Unknown:
gonna get you in a second, Tom. Hold on. All these things are shaping up for, well, not a good experience, especially if you're not prepared. Tom, illuminate us. Would you please? I know you're a student of this.
[00:10:18] Unknown:
Well, hold on one second. Let me get off this. Well, we got another nut job running around shooting people this morning. In Dallas. They yeah. They asked some guy. Now there's two detain they shot two detainees. So, they're shooting at a unmarked van shooting at an unmarked van, ice van up in Dallas. Some guy on the roof shot through a van, killed a couple of, detainees, injured somebody else, and then decided to kill himself. I wish they'd done that before he shot somebody, but, you know, what the hell you're gonna do? Well, that that's that's the period we're going into. Civil war.
[00:10:56] Unknown:
It's evidenced by all these things. So there's another one. I I heard that this morning on Brianna, earlier. I would probably would have forgotten to mention it. So thanks for bringing it up, Tom. But these are all in Yeah. This is war we're going into, folks. And I'm telling you, this is serious serious c r a p. Okay? That's a You're a All of you all of you shouldn't even ever go out without hopefully, you got something you can carry with you without looking around and being totally aware of your surroundings and not like that little blonde, cute cute little she was like looked like a young Marilyn Monroe, that girl to me. She was so pretty, and she was a Ukraine gal over here to escape the Ukraine war. And she gets stabbed because she walks on a train. She doesn't look around. She's on her phone. She sits down right in front of the guy that murders her. And and come to find out, Tom, above all else, she's got she's a big support. She's a lefty in her age, which I can understand. And in her apartment, I think she lived with her parents or family or somebody, in her apartment were, Black Lives Matter signs.
So she leaned towards that, and that's the guy that murdered her. But she walked on not paying attention, pay attention where you are. Yesterday on the after show, we heard, our old buddy Bob, Bob Morgan here, who's been around here. Well, since old Blue was a pup, he's been around, okay, many years and knows all this stuff very well. And, got in a situation, him and his daughter, and they got pulled over in an adjacent county. He had not noticed them. She didn't have any kind of driver driving, a, thing to permission. And so he ended up using his driver's license, all this mess, because he didn't use the car they don't use often, and the license tag light was out. That's what caused everything.
The light on the license tag was out, all of this stuff. We don't know how it's gonna turn out for him. Hopefully, it'll be very minor. But I've told you, you know, be be responsible. You're the ones that wanna be free. Freedom, I'm sorry, contains responsibility, personal responsibility. And if you wanna be free, you gotta take the responsibility with it. You can't take one without the other. Okay? And that in involves doing something like occasionally. I know it's out of your routine and habit, but go turn on your car and go back and see if the lights are on in the back. See if there's any potential problems they can pull you off. I've told you all that before. Be conscious of the speed limit stuff. And then you're totally certain to avoid all that crap.
K? Well, I'll maybe some for your circumstances. Gotcha. Now who was trying to say something just to say? Now that is Larry. Yes, sir, Larry.
[00:13:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I think, students should get in the habit of doing what's known as a pre trip to their to their car or truck or whatever they drive. So we're required to do that every morning before we get into our equipment. We have to check out the tractor, the trailer. We gotta make sure the lug nuts are tight. We gotta make sure there's no flats. We gotta make sure all the lights work. And you're only allowed, two lights to be out on on your tractor and trailer. And if there's more than two lights out and you get stopped by a state police trooper or whatever, they actually could, keep you there, and then you'll have to get the, entire vehicle towed by one of these really large tow trucks.
So it might be a good idea for people just to get in the habit of walking around their vehicle and making sure all their flashers and everything are working. Probably only take five minutes. They're probably And that can avoid a lot of problems.
[00:14:45] Unknown:
Okay. And it could potentially avoid an awful lot of whatevers. So these are the things that come along with this, what what we talk about here so regularly, which is your freedom. Well, there's certain elements of your freedom that, you know, you've never had to be that conscientious about before. And now if you wanna make these changes, this is where I say, the world ain't gonna change. They're still gonna pull you over if the light's out, etcetera, etcetera. You've got to be the change. And little things like this that you gotta be conscious of that you never had to be conscious of before, and that's freedom. And sorry, but that's what it is. So that's what you want. You want to get away from the federal government goon, slave, and bastards.
And these are some of the things that come with freedom. I can't help it. You know? I mean, it's just like Thomas Jefferson said, those expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be.
[00:15:42] Unknown:
Still the same day.
[00:15:44] Unknown:
Yes. So I got Paul and Tom at the same time. Now I'm really torn.
[00:15:49] Unknown:
Good. Good. Good.
[00:15:50] Unknown:
Paul? Mine is quick. Mine is quick. If you're alone and traveling and, you checked all your lights, cannot check your brake lights when you're alone. Just back into a parking space, like, at a convenience store or something Yeah. And look at the reflection of your lights in the window.
[00:16:13] Unknown:
Right. Just hit the brake and see how it does.
[00:16:16] Unknown:
And the third light in the back window, that's important. If you got three brake lights, make sure all three of them are working because a cop will zero in on you if one of them fails.
[00:16:30] Unknown:
Do you know how nice it is not to have a car anymore? Not to have to have one? I mean, it's just, like, liberating, man. Really. Oy. So, anyways, that's how I started the show out. Tom, what did you do what now, Paul? What did you ask? I guess oh.
[00:16:45] Unknown:
That was that was all I had. Go ahead, Tom. Okay. Well, thank you, sir. I'll always say Another another another trick another trick that I see all the time is people with their turn signals not working. If you turn on your turn signal to make a lane change or whatever and you see your little indicator on your dash, the blink goes blink, blink, blink when you turn signals on. If you see that going blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, real rapid, that means one of your blinker light bulbs is out. So either the front or the rear, and most times it's the rear because people are making change in lanes, they think they got their turn signal on, they see the light flashing on the dashboard, but when it flashes rapidly, it means you got a bulb out. So, stop the and if your dash and if your dash lights go out, your brake lights are out too.
So that's another way they wire or they wire the car so that you know there's something wrong. If your dash lights go out, your brake lights are out with it on the same circuit.
[00:17:51] Unknown:
Okay. Cool. In the old days, like 57 Chevy days and stuff, some of you are old enough to remember that. You you could stick your arm out. If you're making a turn, you just stick it out straight, and it's left. And if it's crooked up, it's right. So even though your lights might be out, you could still signal a turn. K? That's not a change in lanes. That's a turn. But, anyway, that's old. That's old stuff like us, Tom. That's old. So,
[00:18:19] Unknown:
we can still do that.
[00:18:21] Unknown:
Well, just be responsible. That's what I you know, I'm I'm gonna try to instruct you on being free. I gotta instruct you on all of the peripheral things that surround it. These are things that I've come to learn and understand over the years of doing this. People's experiences or thoughts come to you as to what situation might be. So, anyway, that's the way I wanna start out the show this morning. So the show is for if you're new. It's for you. If people want to, unen unenslave themselves from the, international monetary powers that have enslaved us so skillfully.
It's easy to get out of. It's nonthreatening. It's not expensive. You don't have to go to court. You don't have to hire a lawyer. You don't have to do any of that stuff. All you have to do is write down a little little bit of information on paper. And, best thing, go get it notarized, and then you can start sending that to Marco Rubio and company up there. And, you're out of this shooting match, and that's exactly how easy it is. And, just if you're new and you're scared, because I understand that's part of the deal, we've never had one to me reported to me.
There's never been one incident of any blowback on anybody from the federal government in fifteen years. K? That includes the big bad individuals representing Satan also. So that's where you are. And, if that's what you desire, we're here for you. I got up. I do it every morning and have some coffee and get up on the world just a little bit so I can come on this show and say, is there any new students that have questions that we can help you understand this or other questions? And, most of the time, my analogy here is dropping a rock down a well. Most of the time, the rock doesn't hit the bottom, but sometimes it does. We've had some new folks on lately. By the way, is Mary on today? Did Todd get out of the hospital yesterday yesterday or out of, therapy?
Do we know? Yeah. Todd, are you there, buddy? Okay. Well, it doesn't sound like he is. I was hoping to get some good news there. So where else can we go this morning? Somebody got something they wanna bring up? Oh, come on. I know you I know you wanna ask. Come on. All you have to do is hit star six. You'll unmute yourself, and you can say, hi, Roger.
[00:20:53] Unknown:
Good morning, Roger. Can I say morning, Roger? There you go. There's George, isn't it? Yes, sir. Good voice recognition.
[00:21:00] Unknown:
Well, I'm fine. It's taken me a while it was taken me a while to get yours. Yours. But, anyway, I got it now, I think. How are you doing, George? Yep. I'm doing well. Doing well. Enjoying the, beautiful fall now weather that we have. Oh, it's such a beautiful time of the year. My favorite always.
[00:21:20] Unknown:
Definitely. New England, it was, and and, here in Idaho, it is. I actually met a fellow from Austria who is, Salzburg, and he was saying I said, how do you like it here? He says, you know, it's just like home. It's hot in the summers and cold in the winters and asking about the hiking, if he's done the hiking here. So he, I said, what brought you to Idaho? He said, tennis. He's playing men's tennis team varsity team here for the university.
[00:21:46] Unknown:
The Okay.
[00:21:48] Unknown:
Yeah. The, the subject I wanted to, you know, talk talk about the piece of paper. I I heard a statement the other day, and and I I I think I've come to believe it's true. The court is the paper is the court.
[00:22:04] Unknown:
And I thought that was a powerful statement. I'd say that well, I'd say that's true. Remember, in the old days, years ago, decades ago, they had a big popular TV program on called the paper chase. I think it was a movie that although turned into a TV, serial. You remember that? Well, that was about law school, The Paper Chase.
[00:22:23] Unknown:
Okay. I remember the show, but I or the title. I didn't remember what it was about. I don't think I watched it, but makes sense. Yeah. I sent Paul Do you know, George? I'm interested. Lawyers
[00:22:36] Unknown:
lawyers hate what they do for a living more than any other profession.
[00:22:47] Unknown:
That makes sense. Interesting.
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Yes. It does. But you have to kinda
[00:22:51] Unknown:
you kinda have to lie for, or you're doing things for fictions, you know, all day long. So you're you're an you're really an actor in a lot of ways. Right? So Yeah. But, Paul, I sent you a piece of paper that affidavit of the high court of heaven. I thought that was that that what really made me Right. Besides what, you know, obviously, the affidavit does. But,
[00:23:11] Unknown:
I don't know if you received that by email, but I just wanna confirm that you got that. So What was the title of it? The high the the the or something of heaven? The high cost of heaven? What was it?
[00:23:22] Unknown:
No. It's a it's a declaration and, the exact title I just gave some but jurisdiction and declaration regarding kinda whose jurisdiction you're you're within.
[00:23:34] Unknown:
Well, that's very interesting because we spent almost two hours yesterday on the word person. I thought you were there. And, it's just very interesting for somebody who was saying in the after show that a a national is not a person. Well, of course, it's a person. You receive rights and duties except this time is from God, not the federal government. And, you know, it hit me. Here's here's the story behind that, George. I was in in Argentina. The book had just come out, so it was a number of years ago. And, I was gonna fly up. Did do you know who, Doug Casey is?
George, you ever heard of Doug Casey? He's a pretty famous, international jet setting financier kinda guy. Independent, up a seat of his pants, made all of his own money, written a bunch of books. Rich, sharp guy. He's got pride. He lived in 25 countries and, a big polo player. He prefers Argentina to all of them because in in his words, the bureaucracy can't find his ass with both hands. It's pretty true. Okay. So, anyway, him and his buddy, do you ever remember a email called international living? Bill Bonner? No. Okay. Well, that's another pretty big outfit. And, Bonner and Casey worked together a lot, and they both had properties in Argentina. And, Casey had partnered up with the ex governor of the Salto province, which is up north close to Colombia, who evidently had made a ton of money smuggling cocaine across that border.
And, wasn't in politics anymore, and he partnered up with Doug Casey, and he had 5,000 acres. It may may have been hectares. Hectares, two and a half acres. So if it was 5,000 hectares, man, that's a bunch of bunch of land. Up in the northern part of the country there in a little, little bitty town called Cafiete and a beautiful place, had his own golf course, international gym, and all that kind of stuff. Well, twice a year, he had open houses so they could sell this overpriced land. And if you bought the overpriced land, you could get his overpriced construction company to build your house on it.
And so, they had twice a year an open house, and people from all over the world would congregate up there. So the book was just out. I was there's a bunch of financial people there, and I was gonna try and introduce them to the concepts that we've uncovered here with the how their their whole lives are built on the financial system. They don't even know how it's structured or where it comes from. And so I was trying to yeah. Yeah. Hello? Yes, sir?
[00:26:29] Unknown:
Something about,
[00:26:30] Unknown:
the conversation yesterday and the word person is can I bring that back up for you? Yes. But, Alan, would you please be courteous enough to let me finish what I'm saying first? Yeah. Yeah. Is that okay? Mhmm. Okay? Yeah. Because I'm trying to make a point here. I understand. Go ahead. Okay. So I was flying up there, used to, previously to that, where I was, close to the Andes. You'd have to fly all the way to Buenos Aires and then take another flight up to Salta. But they just put a new route in where it came through where I was and went up to Salta. So I hopped on the plane and you get on the plane, if some of you have done this, especially internationally, and they give you a piece of paper with all these questions.
And one of them is where's your residency? And that's how I started thinking about all this, George. I'm sitting there on a plane going up to Salt Lake, and I'm going, well, that's a good question. I'm not a resident anywhere. So where is my residency? This also goes to Alan's question, I think, may be everybody's comment or the discussion yesterday. Because if you're a person and you're an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties, then when you move over as a national, your residency's heaven. You're you you you're not a resident of the state anymore because that ties you into the fourteenth amendment.
So you're a state citizen, but your residency is heaven because that's where you get your rights and whom you owe your duties. So isn't that interesting? K? So let me finish up with George. Allen, I'll address you. So but, anyway, a long story, but that's how I came up with this. And the logic is is your your residency is where you get your rights and discharge your duties. And if, if you don't have any residency here, which locks you into a country's laws, then your residency is heaven, which means you're under the constitution and god given laws and constitutional protections.
So there's a little deep thinking into that whole concept and how I stumbled on it, George. K?
[00:28:32] Unknown:
Well put. Thank you.
[00:28:34] Unknown:
You're welcome. Now, Alan, what did you have, buddy?
[00:28:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I I had a bit of an epiphany, and, you may remember Those are like,
[00:28:46] Unknown:
very those are very painful, aren't they? Sometimes
[00:28:49] Unknown:
they are. But do you remember Carl Lentz came in here?
[00:28:54] Unknown:
Well, I remember somebody bringing up his name. I don't know that he came in here. Okay. Well, there's one of the things that he did cover,
[00:29:01] Unknown:
and he covers things where the law has changed the definition of something, and the word person has been changed so many times. However, the original legal meaning of it is persona. And he, literally asked the what do you mean? You want me here in person? What do you mean? What persona would you like me to be here going back to the original terminology? And it literally when they change these, terminologies, it's like walking off a cliff. There's nothing
[00:29:32] Unknown:
there to support it when it's being used the way that they're using it under the fourteenth amendment. Well, do you know another way do you know another way that it's stated in the constitution that is just as identifiable? What's that? You're supposed to be able to know the nature and the cause of the accusation. The nature is the body of law that's being brought against you in the law, and the person would relate to the body of law if it had jurisdiction on you. So it's another way to say the same thing. Exactly. And that's the reason why they had to change the meaning and the definition of persona.
[00:30:07] Unknown:
But the question is, what persona would you like me to show up? Would you like me to show up as a click? Would you like to show, you know, me to show up as, maybe a Star Trek fan? What kind of persona would you like me to be here? Okay. And, that's where this thing walks right off the cliff because when when once we look at the original terminology, we choose what persona we present. What do you Everything
[00:30:35] Unknown:
everything's our choice.
[00:30:37] Unknown:
Yes. And and that's what it goes back to. So there's two two prongs here I wanted to bring up. One is it's actually a persona, and what persona would you like me to be here in? And whose choice is that persona combines into a natural defense against being called a person.
[00:30:56] Unknown:
Okay. What do you no. No. I don't I don't care if they call me a person. I don't give a shit about them changing anything. I care about the original, Alan. And the point that they recognize it is the fact we've never had an affidavit rejected. K? Well Now what you're talking about here is called legal personality. Okay? And it's like the thespians where you have the mask with a frown and a smile, and all they do is change masks. When you make a choice to live under another set of laws, you're changing your legal personality. That's what's going on.
It's got to be your choice, and they've got to recognize it if it's legitimate.
[00:31:33] Unknown:
The other, piece of me I had is something I've been struggling with for the last three years. The idea that the lawyer is the most dissatisfied job in the world was very discouraging to me, but, nonetheless, it's something I have been fighting with. And one of the reasons why it is painful is because you do realize these things as they are presented as you learn the legal terminology. And there is so many pitfalls and so many, walking off the cliff things that they've created that,
[00:32:09] Unknown:
it it's it's a downer. It really is. Well, they've had they've been working on this for for centuries, k, on setting this thing up. I'm totally convinced of that. Because for one thing, it goes back to 1666, all these opposites and sabotage me. So it goes back a long ways, and they have been studiously studying us to learn us like, Freud would would have somebody on the couch that he knew real well. So they know us like the back of their hands, and we don't even have any idea who they are. That's part of what we do here is expose them. Thank you. Yeah. You're welcome, Alan.
Who else has got some kind of commentary this morning? Freud. That was a long show yesterday on a person. It's very important. It's extremely important in a number of different ways. Do what, Paul?
[00:33:04] Unknown:
Freud was a sicko. Tell me about school myself.
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Oh, no. He was. No question. All of them are. I mean, we go back and study these people, learn their history. All these people are just wackos. And it comes from this Talmudic infusion of these satanic Babylonian concepts. Can we their minds and then their their parents raise them in that environment, probably, buttress it by their own whatever else they tell them. Yeah. Was that you, Alan? Who's trying to say something right there? I was saying,
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can we agree with, Floyd that, cocaine is a miracle drug?
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Well, I don't know about that. I don't think so. It sure has screwed up a lot of lives and got a lot of people killed, I can tell you that. You You know, one of my friends in the record business, and I was back in the record business in the seventies, folks. That's when this stuff was wide open. Okay? And one of my buddies, the capital guy, and he goes, I don't know why anybody would spend that much money to feel that bad. Ain't that the truth? Oh, it's great for a little while, but then you tail off the back end, and it ain't fun at all. K? So thank goodness. Thank goodness. I'm a long way away from that.
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Hey, Roger?
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There's Nancy again. Yes, ma'am. The one that brought up this whole thing on person yesterday. She's responsible.
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I I understand. I I can I admit I'm guilty? I was doing some follow-up to the conversation. And I FYI, I I, Julie sent me, a link to the Kevin Hoyt interview with you, and I watched it last night. And it's excellent.
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Oh, good. And
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and I'll I'll be glad to drop a link to that in the chat in a minute. But, because, I'm I'm following up on so that for me, it was I'm I'm very clear about the legal concept behind person at least as
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you teach, you know, and then Well, it's not difficult. It's real easy. I mean, it's real easy. You just have to have it explained to you in as as simply as possible. But once you get that and you spend your time and your brain cells synapses firing and stuff and you get your arms around that, they can never fool you again. Is that enough incentive for you to study it?
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Oh, yeah. Well and so and as you know, what I was looking at, I mean, the the interview, one of the things that, I guess not a point of contention for me, but that I was bringing up from the previous afternoon is about the fourteenth amendment and the use of the the person, the all persons born. Yeah. And,
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because Well, you know what? Nancy, I'm let me interrupt you just a second if I may. You go to the newer Black's Law dictionaries and look under person. Have you done that?
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I've looked under, the cut I went to Joe's website and Joe Lustica's, and I saw,
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watched his video on that. So he has a quote from Black's four Black's Law four fourth edition, I think. Okay. Well, that's why I wasn't asking about the older ones. I was asking about the newer ones. The newer ones Yeah. This this term has sir has has great significance because of its usage in the fourteenth amendment.
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Oh, crap. Okay.
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Well, so the the piece that the aspect to this this is that what I was hearing seemed to be, not what I have heard you say. And that's why I wanted to watch that video. It's not about so when you bring up the legal concept of behind person, you are also, comparing it to what we call patriot mythology that, you know, a person is a corporation. Right? So that's a separate thing from the fourteenth amendment. But what had been being said was, you know, and that we're the natural person. You know, we're the natural entity. The the the individual. Individual. Right. In whom the rights and duties reside in the same entity as opposed to an artificial, person, entity, corporation, trust. Yeah. Yeah. Or partnership, association.
So in, so I was asserting that the the person all the all persons that use the word in the fourteenth amendment, I I believe, and the born and, naturalized refer to a natural, entity, a natural person and individual. So there was some assertions that it was an artificial person. So that was what my
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I think it applies to both.
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And you differentiate
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oh, please, please, please. I think it applies to both, and then you dictate by seeing if you volunteer to sub to be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That separates the two. That that's what I think. Go ahead.
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Okay. So okay. So this is when, you know, it's in the weeds and the granularity of the so Oh, man. We're off we're we're off we're off splitting frog hairs right now. Go on. Right. Well, no. It's in a sense, it's the essence of what you teach, Roger, because it's the feudal system, not Mhmm. The straw man. It's not the art you know, it's not the the name of the as a straw man. I know. There is no such thing as a straw man. You're a slave. Name. Right. Yes. That's what I'm pointing to. That's what you assert. And that's I believe that. So it's, and then we can that's the jurisdiction that the person is a serf status legal, legal person. Their legal identity is a is a serf.
Right? So and we can we can as we can change that by our choice by volunteering out. So Yeah. But so what I was so what I was in the question of, if someone's assert and I'm hearing you say something about the artificial person. So but I I don't desperation.
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Nancy, you're making a whole bunch out of something. I'm trying to get what your confusion is. Go ahead.
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Well, the assertion that I'm hearing, not from you specifically, but that person is an artificial it's is, not a natural person. It's an artificial. It's a corporation. Okay. I think that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying it's wrong because they think they're both.
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They get their both. They get their rights under the fourteenth amendment as corporation. They owe their duties to the to the federal government. That's why I bring up the executive
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or the individual. As a SURF.
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As a SURF. I bring up I bring up the example that I used yesterday to you where they've got individual in that schedule at at in the IRS. The reason they use individual and not person is because corporations being a person could be confused with individuals who this first part of the IRS code is for individuals, not corporations. They have their own tax schedule.
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K. So may I just share what I what I looked at last night? Okay. Alright. Whatever. Okay. Because I've the definition in Black's law, which is very simple that that Joe Lustica, it says it has been held that when the word person is used in a legislative act, natural persons will be intended unless something appear something appear in the context to show that it applies to artificial persons.
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And then after, it gives a sight Which is the example I just gave you with the tax code. Alright. I just gave you that example, perp. Yes. I understand.
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Yes. Okay. But as a rule, corporations will be considered persons within the statutes within the statutes unless the intention of the legislature is manifestly to exclude exclude them. So it has to be explicitly excluded. So Correct. Now looking at the fourteenth amendment, so this is how I'm thinking. I'm just gonna share with with you my valid my analysis process. Okay? Because born and naturalized to me indicate a natural person. Not and so I'm just saying that's what I think. You could disagree with me. So I look back in the rest of the constitution, the beginning part of the constitution.
Because within the context of the constitution so it is clear the way the word person is used is In the the actual person. In those Before that. And when they talk about an
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Alright. Sorry. I'll quit interrupting. Go on.
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They use the terms instituted, established, and form when they're talking about states and government, which are artificial persons. So I'm just merely look telling you that why I think that the term it may have as we know with through, equivocation, that there can be multi layered meanings of words. But I don't think you can say the the birth of the nation. Well, it wasn't a big vagina that our country came out of. It came it was people got men got together, and they formed and established these artificial constructs, agreements through agreement and contract.
So I'm going to you know you know, you may disagree with me, and I'm open to, further evidence. That's what I'm looking for. It's evidence, not just beliefs. And I recognize we're in CFR 26 CFR where it uses the word individual, and that's a natural person as opposed to a corporation. I get that, Roger. But so anyway, I just I went through a process of, okay. This is the fourteenth amendment. What do the previous what is the the earlier part of the constitution? How does it frame this? How does it use? Because that's important. That has that's relevant.
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Operations back in those days, Nancy, had expiration dates.
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Right. There were In other words, the Erie Canal
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was built under a corporation, but it expired after twenty years. So they didn't have the same characteristics or they weren't applied back there in the same as after they passed the fourteenth amendment and then got what what they call corporate personhood done. Because there, the bad guys can control everything behind the scenes like they're doing right now, and their names don't ever pop out. BlackRock and Wildlife controlling sector of every corporation of this important in the world, which they've done, but they never show up anywhere. But they own the controlling amount of stock. They have corporations in mind, I think, it's my personal opinion, because they defer, the the the themselves in any responsibility to the corporation.
And they can own all these things hidden. That's what I think came it changed evidently along that. I'm not an expert on this. I just teach you what John taught me and the simplicity of it. And, and so you people I say you wanna go further. Nancy wants to go further in the weeds on this, and that's where we are.
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Well, the reason I've been inspired to do so is because people are asserting that the person in the fourteenth amendment,
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all persons born, is actually a corporation. And you teach no And I told you that's not right because you're a fourteenth I know. It's not right. Citizen and and agreed to it, y'all, every time they ask you. So this is a result. All the all yesterday and all this today is a result of somebody's misidentification and misunderstanding on the word person and the fourteenth amendment and how it's used.
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Yes. And I was just using it as a Okay.
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They say it would freed all the slaves of the thirteenth amendment. Well, that those weren't corporations. They were black Negro slaves. So whoever made that comment that started all this but you you understand my frustration with Patriot Mythology, Nancy?
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I don't have any confusion about this matter,
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Roger. Well, no. But somebody does. I was using Somebody does. That's why I was
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and that's why I was bringing it up. And I'm also using it as an opportunity to further and deepen my understanding. And I'm sharing that. Everyone here Well, that's cool. Do what they yeah. Yeah. So that's the the purpose. Cool. So I'm just sharing what I did to put it Okay. So somebody makes a dumbass statement.
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Excuse me, Nancy. Somebody makes a dumbass statement in the after show that the word person only applies to corporations in the fourteenth amendment. That's not what they didn't say that, Roger.
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Okay. You know what? It's this is a useful discussion until it's not.
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You know? So I think he was misunderstanding, and there's plenty it seems like there's a lot of misunderstanding going on. Yeah. I sure is. Well, that's easy. They've set it up that way, but I try and straighten that out. So I'm something like this comes up, it frustrates me because, obviously, whoever said that, I haven't straightened it out with them, have I?
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Well, there's always new people, Roger, and it's always gonna be an opportunity to provide greater clarity. So I've had a greater deepening about this. I've looked back in the constitution just to understand and look with a new eyes because of the training that I've received from you Yeah. In being examining. So I deeply appreciate that from you. Yep. So I'm carrying it forward.
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Okay. Comment?
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Please comment.
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Yeah. I've got parts of this, Nancy, over the past couple of days. And this is old news. No. It it may have even been brought up before because I've been in and out. This is Bob. But it's and maybe you have this understanding. I don't know. But for new students who've never considered this, the word incorporation, corpus is body. When the state department of a particular state incorporates a company or corporation, they are giving it a body. Right. It's metaphorical, of course. Obviously, the body is not something huge tangible, but it, it would be like what you said about, you know, the nation was birthed. Well, obviously, as you said, it didn't come out of a woman's, body.
It came out of the actions and intent of dozens, hundreds, thousands of individuals who got together and made it happen. So at any rate, just the idea that incorporation is to give a body to something important. And and I'm not saying you don't know that. I'm just bringing it out because as you just said, there are always new students. And, I've just been kinda marveling because I heard you say yesterday that in all the time you've been listening, what now, eighteen months, year and a half Three years. Two years. Yeah. Three years. That you had never heard Roger say anything about a company being a person or corporation. Not what that's not what I said. Okay. Well, sorry. There's a lot of misunderstanding. That's what I thought I heard you say, at any rate.
Yeah. Obviously, there's a lot of confusion. He says that all the time, and I can't see how anybody could come away and not not understanding that having listened at at, you know, for any length of time. But anyway That's yeah. Well, I appreciate that. I'm happy to move on, but I've got I've gained I've gained greater clarity myself.
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And, the issue was not about person, being a corporation. It was, as you teach, Roger, it's not just a corporation. And in specific, the fourteenth amendment and I agree with you actually. I think it was just like the civil war. I think it was obviously the next one of the next steps in, laying this groundwork for capturing us us all through and purse the personhood, the legal concept goes back thousands of years. So the framers knew about it. But the distinction, which is one of the things that you teach us, and equivocation that, is a distinction that I'm looking at. So around in the fourteenth amendment. Because I heard someone say they're they're using it, they're saying it's the artificial person, not the natural. But anyway, that's alright. I'm grateful for the opportunity to gain gain greater clarity for myself and Uh-huh. Are you?
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Comment, man. Why I try to straighten all that out is because that is patriot mythology that a person is a corporate fiction. Every investigator, researcher I've ever asked in over thirty years has that same answer. It's a corporate fiction, but that's not right. It's not wrong. Yes. It can be, but not exclusively. That's the point I'm trying to make. And Nancy chose to just a second, please, Sherry. Can I finish? Yes. Nancy chose to dive deeper into this and investigate it further. And, it's as you can tell, it's very confusing. Very simply, everybody's a person of some type because everybody has a lawgiver, don't they?
Okay. Any dissension from the audience? Everybody's a person. Can we come to that conclusion? Yes. And if we can, then I think we've settled Nancy's questions. Okay. Several people, Sherry, Julie,
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Joe's, couple people wanna chime in. I'm gonna go with Sherry. Sherry, come forward. Well, I appreciate Bob bringing that forward. And just to further what you just said, he who creates controls, and corpus is the pertinent word. But, somebody else had a comment on this subject, but I wanna change the subject.
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Person is the most dangerous word that enslaves mankind that nobody understands, but everybody uses. And my second, point is Noah Webster defines a person as a mask primarily used by an actor
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on stage. Thank you very much. That's just what I told you. And that's what John John Wayjohn explained this to us. You go back to Greece and the thespians and all that, they would use a mask, and they'd put a mask on with a smile if they were happy, and they'd put that down and put a frown on if they and that is you changing your legal personalities. What is your legal personality? That's from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties. It always goes back to this. Okay. Who else is wanting to say something? Thank you, Sketch. That's where the thespians came from. Yes. Hey, Roger.
Yes. There's Danny right there. Hey, Danny.
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Yeah. Well, I've, had something I've been thinking of for a while. I'd like to bring up the people that, how we always hear that, they put in front of us what they're gonna do to us before they do it. And so I'd like to talk a little bit about, symbols and protocols
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and some of the strange time. I'm gonna ask you to do is I'm gonna ask you to put go on the back burner because if we're gonna change subjects, Sherry was first. Okay? I'm not trying to be ugly. She said she wanted to change subjects and we barked at her, and you're wanting to change subject, we'll come back to you. Anybody else on the person subject? I have some trouble on Holy shit. On the person's subject. Birka, quick.
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Okay. So, you know, this word person was entered into the fourteenth amendment, and this is part of the entrapment of what they did at 2,000
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people.
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They knew this going ahead of time. These people are very skilled.
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So, Roger, what I was thinking while you and Nancy and Bob were talking, you know, this United States corporation is in oh, is an overlay over The United States Of America, the country. So now they brought in their misleading, deceptive, perverted wording to entrap people, the American people, with the word person and US citizen.
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And resident. Don't forget resident. And resident.
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Reside. Right. Exactly. So now if we think about it and, you know, how, what triggered this is Nancy saying artificial person. It is a special class citizen that United States Of America and District Of Columbia has brought in through congress. It's a special class citizen, which is still a fictional because it is legal and fraudulent and entrapping the American people. So person and US citizen are the overlays over what we now are learning
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is not true. I think all of you would agree that there was a great deal of thought and time spent into formulating this whole scheme.
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So I see it as an artificial, also, like a fictional because it is a fraud, and the people,
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have no idea. And they're consenting to it. What? A fraud corporation is and participate in murder. Hold on. What are you saying? The corporation is a fraud?
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It's, the corporation is not a fraud. It's legal, but it's not natural, and it's not lawful
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and under God.
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And and and does this make Daryl's statement from so many years ago quite accurate? It was the war to bring in the civil law?
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Right.
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Yeah. And then they get the civil law and the kudos under the tent, and now they can get corporate personhood and all these other things that go under this civil law thing?
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Right. And no one knows any better unless you really study.
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But I think So if you're new if you're new here, this is what I tell you is you can take any one of these topics and drill down in them possibly for hours as we've done here on person.
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The main thing is that we all need to be under natural law
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and not under If you if you want to, some people well, Marcus, some people don't wanna be. We don't all need to. Right. I understand. Want to need to. Okay? Right. Alright. There were several other people try hold on, Larry. When there are a couple other people wanting to jump in here?
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Yeah. I just wanted to say growing up in New Orleans, you get those thespian masks. Oh, yeah. Mardi Gras, but they're they're all over the
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Of course. Town. Of course. Yep. Alright. Who else? Somebody else had something to add? Alright. Sherry? Yes, I may. We're gonna, yeah. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. What which topic you wanna come in on?
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Roger.
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No. No. Hold on. Okay. I remembered it. Let's let's deal with the female first. Yes, ma'am?
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I'm called a woman. Yes, ma'am. In regards to who named them all? Who named you? Called them by name, and people started changing those names. So if we go back to the original creator and we lean on that understanding, then I think that we can resolve a lot of these issues because a lot of people, you know, call people names, and he was the ultimate one to call everyone by their name.
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That's what I'm that's what I'm trying to do is get you back over here and understanding that if you file an affidavit, you're still a person. K? That that that the the basis of almost all that discussion was that point right there. You're always a person. Everybody's a person because we all get our law from someone. K? Alright. Well, here's the law of time. The law of time has caught up with us here, Paul, and you know what the remedy is, don't you?
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Yep. See you soon. Bye. Get a new mayor up there, would you? Damn commie. Yeah. They're about to get invaded. Talk about martial law and admiralty law. They're about to get martial lawed up in Chicago. Because Trump is looks like he's gonna have to declare martial law to run troops in there, and he's gonna run troops in there. Neither one of the communist mayor or the, Jew bastard governor want it. So, confer another confrontation looming up there. And there's no telling what that might trigger, by the way. California passed some kind of a bastardized law. I think it's about to get signed by Newsom today.
I can't remember what it was, but it's heinous. Okay? So, alright, Sherry. You wanted did anybody else on the person deal?
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Yes. Larry.
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Larry. Sorry, buddy. I forgot you. Go ahead.
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Yeah. So just to clarify, do you and Nancy, both believe that the four that the fourteenth amendment's use of the word person includes both
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natural persons and artificial persons or just natural persons? No. No. The word legal the word person is always a legal person. It's always an entity to whom the law ascribes the rights and duties. It doesn't deviate. This goes back to the guy that founded the law in Rome. Okay? Yes. It applies to everybody's a person. It applies to everybody where the real thing is not are you born in the first clause, it's and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Because that's what locks you in no matter which one of those persons you are. Okay.
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Okay. And to answer your question, Larry, well, he asked
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it I know. Go ahead. Two. No. Go ahead, please. So
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I'm I lean towards it's focused on the natural person based on the rest of the constitution, but I see that it's also the Trojan horse for the corporate personhood. And so, anyway
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Yeah. He saw those Roger, when it says all persons born, that could apply to an, an artificial person that the secretary of state of a state Okay. Absolutely. Creates or quote Absolutely. Is born. Okay.
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Yep. K, Ross? Yep. Yep. I had a, rather lengthy, discussion with Chat GPT last night. I was I was drilling down into the fiction of law and the presumption of law. And, I got 29 pages of information because I asked it the question, how could a national stop a court from using a fiction of law or a presumption of law in a proceeding against them. And, what the first thing that Chatt GPT did was define the difference between fiction of law and presumption of law. A legal fiction, which I believe is applicable to what we've been talking about. This is a court that's a corporation. A legal fiction is when the court treats something as true for the sake of applying the law even if it's not factually true. There you go.
The example is a corporation is treated as a person in law.
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So I agree with that. Boils it down right there. That boils it down to the essence, Paul.
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Yes. Courts use fictions to simplify or extend rules, but they're not meant to override reality in ways that would deprive someone of justice. So it is a rebuttable presumption.
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You know where corporations arose, don't you?
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What?
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In Amsterdam. La Roone. After the Jews had been kicked, they many of them went up to Amsterdam. They started the the Dutch trading East India Trading Company. And with those ships that were incredibly expensive, you you you got limited liability. If one of them was lost at sea and you were the sole owner, you you were done. So they they diversified the liability, and that's corporations. It's just limited liability. You know? And I would I would remind you what George Gordon used to say. He said, I'm I'm a national. He didn't say that, but he basically said, if I harm you and can't make you whole, drill a hole in my ear, and I'll be your slave.
Okay? But it came out of Amsterdam. It came out of that time. Guess what else came out of there about the same time? The concept of central banking. Guess what else came out? Well, it's tied to the corporation is insurance. The whole idea of insurance came out of the same little nest. So a little bit of the origins of that. Yes. There's Rick. Hey, Rick.
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Yeah. The, Bank of Amsterdam was formed, I think, ninety two or ninety four years before the Bank of England. And Correct. The Dutch the Dutch were independent states, but they came together, for trade purposes, and they were the first international corporation.
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Yep. There you go. And they were huge. If you go back and take the assets at that time and the value of wealth and lay them overlay them on today, these corp, these Dutch East India, the other one, West India, they dwarf the biggest corporations in the world today in wealth in that day in a comparison head up. So who was wanting to say something? Thank you, Rick. Who else Yeah.
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Just one last thing. But legal personhood, while bestowed on human person at birth in the Western legal system as we know them, is itself a fiction precisely because it is creation.
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What now? What was that sketch at birth, assigning? Go for that again, please.
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Yeah. But legal personhood, comma, while bestowed on the human person at birth in the Western legal system as we know them is itself a fiction precisely because it is a creation, a construction of law without which we would merely be individuals or even unpersons in the Orwellian sense. I yield People. Wow.
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We're the people.
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Right. And and, of course, according to Brent, when you see the people in the founding documents, it doesn't mean all of us. It meant the militia. Yes. Samuel there.
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Yeah. This in the in definitions in the book of the hundreds, they roll person, human being, natural persons, and natural man all into one category, and the person under law here in their definition still doesn't cover the unborn child. So they look at all of these as non spiritual, non souled definitions. So I have dropped using persons altogether and use either man, woman, or child, and that's it.
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Well, makes it whole place before all this, life was deemed to, begin at conception. So even though the baby was in mama's womb, it was covered under that. With the fourteenth amendment, it's not. All persons born. You've got to be born before you get those rights and duties. In our system with an affidavit, the child in mother's womb is its own individual. It's just not brought into the world yet.
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They also have a short definition of persona. I'll I'll read that for you here. Latin, literally the mask of an actor in law. The persona is the function fictional person or entity created by government under military law by the process of novation. And novation is exactly how we pass real estate. We have copied Roman law.
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Okay.
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Well, new folks, again, if you're listening here, stumbled in, you're still with us, the reason that, I tell you, all this stuff is real deep is because we've spent an hour and two with the two Internet yesterday. We spent about three hours on this one question.
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K?
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So if you're new, that's why I simplify the things. If you get along the line and you wanna get into these types of thinkings and investigations, it's fine with me. K? But I teach you the very simple basics so that you can in internalize the information and get as much understanding as you can as quickly as possible. We don't have the time. Yes, Larry. Like we used to have. Yep.
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So you agree with Brent when he says that the people in, I believe, the Declaration of Independence is the militia? Yeah. Well, I think that's probably true. Yeah. Okay. What about the people like, virtually every state constitution starts out with we the people, like, for example, the state of California. I think it's the same thing. Do you believe that's the militia too in the state constitution? I
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do. If it follows Do you believe
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a people is a person?
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I think you have to be a state citizen to be in the militia.
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And, right, he doesn't believe in that. You do. You have to be regulated and everything else. So Mhmm.
[01:10:41] Unknown:
Roger, is a people a person?
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Larry, I don't know. It doesn't matter what I think. Okay? I I teach you the very best I can and the the most basic way I can. K? So is that okay? Is it my turn? Yeah. Yes. Sure. It's your turn, dear. Come on.
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At the risk of furthering this conversation, were the people actually called militia during the revolutionary war? And it's rhetorical.
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Don't wanna respond to that.
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I bought Okay.
[01:11:20] Unknown:
Sorry. I do wanna change the subject because I got some information yesterday from the USPS, regarding a postal rule. And I was sending something certified, and I asked about the postal rule that it is deemed received once it's placed in the mail certified. And I was told that that is an IRS rule.
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It only applies to them. Right?
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That's what I was told, and I'm just bringing it forward for anybody's thoughts in that regard, and I yield. Uh-uh.
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That's funny. How interesting, Anybody got any comments? Roger, were you on a new subject yet? I'm Danny. You were you're in the background. What did you want? Come on forward.
[01:12:22] Unknown:
Well, some things about, what why we're told that, you know, what they're fixing to do to us, they tell us ahead of time. Yes. Yes. And use of symbols and protocols to do that in part two. And, one of the thing I know some things you don't like about this, but it starts off with the the gold French flag and what it might mean. And I think it means the, the, by the commander in chief of the military. And one reason I say that is observations of whenever the president receives a foreign head of state, you don't see the gold fringe around. It's it's the just the regular American flag because I believe that it wouldn't be proper to receive a foreign head of state as the commander in chief of the military rather than the head of state. Another thing that's kinda related to that is some years ago when I was living in the Houston area, times when I was in the state court, they always had a gold French flag sitting up there.
But I noticed on some newscast when they were covering something like a murder trial that the gold French flag wasn't there then. So it's like they did a a murder case maybe under common law of some sort. I I mean, it's still in statutes, but common law. Something more recent, that, about the gold French flag is, you remember when Trump had his trip through the through the Mideast, and he had a stop off at, Qatar. And I saw some of the videos there, and there's this one where there's a in a room and had tables arranged around the outside walls where everybody could see inward to everybody else. And from the camera's point of view, his own president and some others were on the, that row of tables over there.
Qataris were on the side tables, and I guess it was some more Americans on the near table that the camera wasn't covering very well. But, what I thought was a little strange was that the US flag had the gold fringe. And another thing I thought was strange was, he was over there to do some kind of agreement. And, you know, usually, when I have something like that, it's like they're agreeing to do something like keep the the, waterways open for for shipping to go through. And they have an agreement or maybe they would call it a treaty or whatever it is, but they're kinda working together on something. Well, this is not what, Trump said while he was there. I had the gold French flag, like, for the head of the military, and he said that we will protect you.
That just seems very different from other kinds of things. Also, few years back while the queen was still alive and Trump had his visit over there, there was one place where, she was making him walk ahead of her. He was trying to walk beside her, and she was shooing him forward. And, so he did like he was told and walked out ahead. And then more recently, when he was over there and, visiting with the king, there was one place where the king was walking behind him and the, head guard of the palace. Or Trump and the guard had a conversation, and later on, the king was up even with him there.
So, you know, there's something to these, but I don't know what kind of changes it indicates is going on. But there's some strange stuff going on.
[01:16:41] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody in the audience got a comment on that? Nobody? Okay. I don't know, Danny. I've never put I've never, spent any time looking into it very much, really. Okay. I don't think it doesn't have anything to do on me filing an affidavit with those people. I understand your curiosity about the other. I think it has some kind of military connotation. Not sure where, but it doesn't affect me too much. So that's for me personally, that's kind of the way I look at it. But you like to dig into stuff like that. Yes, Samuel? You got something to say about it, don't you?
[01:17:22] Unknown:
Yeah. My guess would be it's a guess. It's Bloodline Protocols.
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Could be. Don't know. Don't don't have any answers for you, Danny. Sorry.
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Why was he even over there?
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Do what, Joan? Why was Trump even over there and they Well, he's been over there a number of different times for a number of different reasons. One of the things Danny was referred to as the queen, and she'd been dead a couple of years, if I remember correctly.
[01:17:59] Unknown:
Yeah. But he was there. Trump was there just, what, a week ago or still is or, I mean, a week ago. And and and Melania did not curtsy to the,
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I didn't see that. I don't I don't know. Okay.
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Thank you. Bye.
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Yeah. Yeah. Who else got something to add here? Dave does. Comment. Hold on, Raj. Dave. Hey, Roger. Yeah. Alright. There's somebody else. They got Dave, Tom, and somebody else. Dave first.
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So I've I've learned that that gold fringe flag is a war flag. So military, yep. I do believe that. That's why, anyway, you know, there's a that's in most courtrooms, and it's in every classroom and of every school in America. That war flag. And what what's the tenth plank of the communist manifesto public school funded by the people?
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I yield Yeah. They made us the enemy in the, 1933, so they're warring on you by indoctrinating with propaganda your children. And that may be signified. Danny, I don't know. I'm just taking a stab, buddy. Okay. It was, we got Dave. It was Tom next and then somebody else after that. Tom?
[01:19:23] Unknown:
You know, I guess the gold French flags are appropriate right now because it looks like, the guy that shot the got in shot yeah. I know. But I need even more now. This guy that shot into the ice vehicle, left bullets up there with, anti ice slogans on the bullets. So we got a Charlie Kirk, wannabe here.
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So Well, I'm just glad Trump has, declared the anti for the enemy as terrorist, and now they can go after them with extraordinary methods. Maybe we'll see some results, Tom.
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We'll see. Roger. Now who else? Yeah.
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There's another guy that was trying to say something a minute ago who I didn't recognize your voice. Who was it?
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Exgentile. That's what we do. Exgentile.
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Hello, X. What you got?
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Hey. You know, I just wanna explain to you what that United States flag means. They never told you what the red or the white or the blue or the French is staying for. But it's not something with the heaters, so I can tell you that one. Isn't it something that red represents the m and e in the sense of the world or not? Right.
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Isn't it a isn't it very a replica of the East India Trading Company's flag?
[01:20:38] Unknown:
I believe it's one of those sure that I know why they're using it here. Coming. Okay. Well, go and say you I can only explain why they're using it here right now. Alright. Do it. Yeah. That's red. The red represents the enmity and the sins of the world. The white represents the 144,000, and the blue represents the people that are being woken up by the 144,000. And the fringes are representation of the 144,000. And and and if you read Hitler's last statement, he'll tell you how The United States have stolen the chosen people, and World War three will be started from his grave.
That's right. And I just wanna comment on why Trump goes to visit the queen because if anybody that works in the District Of British Columbia I'm gonna call it what everybody or what the what the queen was afraid to call, and that's the District Of British Columbia because that's what it is, just like it is in Canada. They just were smart enough to take that out of there because they knew it would start a fight. But those people have been every time a president is selected, he goes and gets his orders from them. Period. End of story. I mean, they all do it. They've been doing it. And and he just gone over there, you know, showing his allegiance to them by showing up and getting his new orders for what is about to come. I mean, the the game has not changed. This has been going on ever since the District Of Columbia has burned our White House down and built it in the District Of Columbia because it used to be in Pennsylvania. And these people are pure demons. And I'm telling you, all the satanic stuff and everything that we've been trying to figure out is a is is coming to fruition.
We are at the end, and I'm telling you now the Hebrews are the closures in this game because Moses was Hebrew, not Jew. And those those Jew people, they're fake and imposters, and their days are numbered. I yield. Hallelujah. Thank you, Rogers. Hallelujah,
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Jex. Okay. Who else has got something to add? We're coming up to some sort of a real tipping point, folks. A real big one. Okay. Who else? Somebody? Julie, was that you talking about a minute ago? There's Sherry again. Can you not hear me? It's Sherry. I just said hello, Sherry.
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Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I was busy talking, trying to get your attention. I had to have conference call call me back because somehow, I got muted and couldn't unmute. It was weird. Anyway, about symbolism and the flag. In scripture, it's called a banner. Once you put it on a pole, it is therefore, transients, and that's what militarizes any banner. So I found that interesting. What are your thoughts about that, Roger?
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It's there for transience. Is that what you said? Your phone's a little funky there. When it's on a pole. When it's on a pole. Well, it's also called a standard. It's also referred to as a standard so that troops in battle see where their people are and could go to that spot and not go to the enemies. That's the reason the Confederate battle flag got had to be invented. I'm assuming you know that. I'll say it anyway because the flag of the South was so similar to the flag of the North that the soldiers were going to the wrong post. And they had put out an urgent plea for another flag. And down in Mobile, Alabama, a couple of, ladies sitting around sewing came up with the, Confederate battle flag. That's where it came from. The reason was so that the southern troops would know where to go.
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Oh, I do not agree with you, Roger. But the difference between hanging something on a railing or a fence is way different than putting it on a a pole or a standard pole standard. That is carried about in military.
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Okay. I agree with that. And they carry it about in the military, so they know who they are. And everybody else knows who they are, and they identify them through the flag.
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Absolutely. So my point is it is a big deal and it's a big distinction and symbolism is important. And so when you are flying a banner at home, it should not be on a pole because that signifies, enemy. Not enemy, but, that you're at war. Okay. So
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Well, the okay.
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Can the scripture say banners, which is your family flag or your ecclesiastical banner, should not be anyway, I yield, Roger. I'm babbling now. Thank you. I yield. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
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Yes. I think that's sketch again. Yes, sir. The almanac
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produces a book, I'm sure, but it's also on the web, US flag etiquette rules and guidelines with all the
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Oh, that's pretty cool.
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All the accoutrements, related to that. I guess Danny,
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the one you go get on the almanac online, and it's got a spot on there about the flag with a whole bunch of information on it, see if they identify and specify anything in there differently. K? That might be a good homework assignment for Danny or Sherry or any of you. Yes, Paul? You were grunting?
[01:26:10] Unknown:
It was it was interesting that when I was talking to chat GPT last night, it brought up a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about today, including the mailbox rule, because in a sample legal argument structure, rebutting a legal presumption, the defendant's motion to challenge application of presumption of law or fiction of law, the defendant respectively moves his court to decline application of the specific presumption or legal fiction on the grounds that its application in this proceeding would, a, exceed its intended scope, b, deprive defendant of due process, and c, result in manifest injustice contrary to established law. Now what presumption of law do you think this was talking about?
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No, Paul. I don't even have a guess.
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Statement of the presumption or fiction, identify exactly what the court or opposing party is relying on. And the example in this, reply is the state seeks to apply the presumption that all mail is received three days after
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posting. K. Well, that doesn't apply. Paul, are you gonna post that post that? I'm sorry, Roger. Yeah. Yeah. That's important. I think everybody wants to hear it. Are you Sure. Or read it. Okay.
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Just back off from your microphone just a little bit. You're also overmodulating.
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Go ahead, Paul. The big the big takeaway from it is that presumptions are generally rebuttable unless they're conclusive. A conclusive presumption would be like a child cannot enter into a contract before the age of majority. But many other presumptions are rebuttable. And all you have to do is, object to the presumption and provide case law or evidence where either the presumption is false or the presumption, if it stands, would lead to a deprivation of rights, a violation of due process, and a miscarriage of justice. All you gotta do is just just show your case sites, and you could you could shut down any presumption.
And if they don't buy it, you can always take it to appeal. So, anyways, that was a very interesting conversation with at GPT last night. Very interesting.
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Well, I gotta tell you, you know, I thank Al Attis for that because he's the first person that ever came up with that. I'd I may have heard it before that point, but he brought it up in one of these conversations and it hit me. And I've thought about it so much and understood it's the way everything's happening. That's why they could just keep coming at you. We got this presumption rolling. What what do we know about our enemies? They always just keep coming, don't they? Until they're stopped. Until you gotta get rid of the presumption at the origin.
And that's what we've been able to do. You know? You you if you're you haven't changed status, I'm not I'm not telling y'all anything new. You haven't changed status and you get in a dance with these people, the chances are very great that you're not gonna win. I mean, very great. Occasionally, we get graced by something. Usually, it's procedural, because we're in that venue. But, anyway, that's that's what I've come to conclude over all these years. It's very important. It's everything is this presumption law. And it gives them a two step process where they can bring fraud into the equation, and people don't know it or understand it.
So, anyway, that's my 2¢, Paul.
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Right. I do believe that we absolutely, positively need to have you, Joe Lusticka, and Mark in an in-depth discussion on fictions of law and presumptions of law. That Here I am. That's a very, very tasty subject.
[01:30:22] Unknown:
Yes. Alright. Well, maybe that'll come about one of these days. I saw you sent me a couple of emails. Mark, I sent you an email from a guy named a gal named Katie, who who was having problems getting your Telegram group, so you can contact her and get that hooked up. Okay? Okay. Sounds good. And then, I see that Shane's hand is up, so I don't know if he was Shane's hand is up. Okay. Well, let's see what Shane has on his mind today. Shane, good morning. It's early on the leftovers. Roger, which thing? How are you? Yes. I know you are. Oh, I'm doing
[01:30:57] Unknown:
doing alright. I I have a question. Have you seen the, the new president Donald Trump in gold holding a Bitcoin on the national flag or where it is. National Lawn, where it is.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
I I haven't seen that. I no. I haven't seen that, Shane.
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Alright. Well, he's on the that's the reason why I saw that he's on the penguin six penguin six on, YouTube. That preferably at the end, it also has him holding the, the Bitcoin, the golden Bitcoin on on the national lawn or whatever.
[01:31:47] Unknown:
Okay. So Great. Just wanna say that. Well, it'd be wise for any of you if you got any shekels left. And, of course, you should have some dollars on hand. The dollars will be good for a little while. Don't know how long, but people are conditioned to them. But, if you got any extra, you need to be shuffling it off into something real. I remember, Rob Robbie Noel saying gold climbs a wall of worry. Gold climbs a wall of worry. Now we got all these things that are clicking in. Basel three just clicked in July 1. That was dealing with the banks, and, they're buying gold hand over fist and have been for years, and, something big's coming. So whether your preferences are gold, silver, or Bitcoin, maybe some of these other marginal coins, I don't know, stable coins or whatever, take your pick, I'd I'd move in that direction very quickly.
Ifen ifen, that's a good southern expression, Paul. Ifen, I were you. That's I f hyphen n, ifen, I were you.
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Gotcha. XRP.
[01:33:03] Unknown:
Okay. There's Tom Tom and Larry, you guys coming in almost the same time. Larry, go ahead.
[01:33:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Getting back to the flag. Have you ever heard have you or Danny ever heard of the American civil peace flag? And it has vertical stripes, like seven I think it has seven red and six white vertical stripes, and then it has the 50 stars in the upper left hand corner. Has is that a legitimate flag that was ever used in American history?
[01:33:37] Unknown:
I I'm not familiar with it. Maybe, you know, you go to some reference and look through. There's a bunch of different kinds of flags. I don't know, Larry.
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It is a civil peace flag. I yield.
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It's a civil peace flag. It's a civil peace flag.
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So there's, patriots that you know, there's students of the patriot community that believe that that is the legitimate flag, that the, flag that's currently being used is a military flag because we're always at war. There's always some type of, Well, it could be. You know? Yeah. The, one of those, all those, those orders that are put out, There's a word for it, but it's it escapes me right now. But that's why we're always,
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at at war. Well, I think it's what we've only and then we've only not been at war seven years in the whole history of the country or something like that. Mhmm. It's not very many. K?
[01:34:47] Unknown:
The national emergencies. We're always there's always an you know, at a national emergency.
[01:34:53] Unknown:
Well, it has been since the '33. So. It all it has been since '33, and they have to bring in other emergencies to keep elongating that one. My understanding. Tom?
[01:35:07] Unknown:
Well, just another point on that civil peace flag. He never. He just jumps in. The stars are blue the stars are blue with a white background in the upper left corner, and I yield.
[01:35:22] Unknown:
Alright. Joan?
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Hey, Roger.
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Yes. What seven years have we not had I don't I don't know. I back in the '18 back in the eighteen hundreds, Joan. K. What who's the guy there?
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That's x again.
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Okay, x. What do you got now? X Gentile.
[01:35:49] Unknown:
I got a question for you. You know? I'm I'm pretty certain that gold was gonna be the leader in the money because they these guys would be blowing up the World Trade Center robbing Fort Knox if gold wasn't their future. You know? So is it possible that they could be have two currencies in the future, you know, like a Bitcoin digital trading system for the sleighs, which would be us, and then gold for their purchasing power. They're they're great. All kind well, you got all kinds of currencies now. Why wouldn't that be the case?
[01:36:20] Unknown:
Yeah. They're gonna you're you know, you the the the the BRICS thing is becoming more important by the day because Trump's tariff actions and BRICS standard is on 2.2 to four nine kilo bars. 2.2 pounds pure gold. That's the new world standard. It's not Dory bars or good delivery bars like it used to be. K? So, yeah, the whole thing's moving in that direction.
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And I can confirm the gold statue of him him holding a Bitcoin. You know? This guy is obsessed with gold because I I also have, pictures when he was, posing with Kushner and family and his daughter in, 666 Park Avenue, New York with all these gold Egyptian statues, and he's laying on the floor like a model. You know? And there's all this gold, and they're like, I've never seen so much gold in my life. But There's there's definitely something something gonna happen in our future here real soon with gold and Bitcoin. I or I should say the digital first. Just book it. You know? I mean, I've I've told you all the story. Jim Sinclair
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used to be Bill Holter's partner. He was the guy that Volker tapped to unwind the silver the, Hunt Brothers silver position back in the early eighties. So he knows where all the skeletons are buried. K? He's dead now, unfortunately. But he used to work with. I saw him on an interview. Just go ahead.
[01:37:54] Unknown:
No. I'm waiting for you to finish. And, Hockney, I'm waiting for you to finish, and then I wanna comment.
[01:38:03] Unknown:
I heard him and Holt are in the discussion, and it was Jim Sinclair's words. If you had the amount of dollars registered that is known, it would could be in the area of a $185,000 an ounce. That was from Jim Sinclair. K? Not me. Somebody that really knew, though. Julie?
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Yeah. I just wanna say that I disagree. So, I have,
[01:38:32] Unknown:
read the new stuff. You you disagree with what? I disagree with something there? Yeah. The flag thing? A person thing? You disagree with what?
[01:38:41] Unknown:
The financial stuff that's being discussed right now. So this was discussed on the Republic call last night. And, if you read the Genius Act and then you go and read the Clarity Act and the, anti CBD surveillance state act. They tell you exactly what's going on here, and even Martin Armstrong, on the show that I watched yesterday, gels with what I have written up for myself here. So, you know, they this is not going to go well when all of this digital stuff goes out and, the central banks are going to be able to determine who gets what and what current cryptocurrency survive, which cryptocurrencies do not survive, and who can use them, when they can use them. And Martin Armstrong said yesterday on his show that he predicts that, the euro will completely they're rolling out the CBDC and after that's rolled out, they'll kill Bitcoin and all cryptocurrencies because they're direct competitors to the central banks and the central banks want to control everything.
So be careful about how this rolls out. Also, Martin said there's no way that gold is going to be revalued like a lot of these gold dealers are stating to $20,000 and $40,000 an ounce. I'm just the messenger here. Go listen to his recordings. That guy is extremely smart in the way he backs up his statements, I yield.
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It's the one of the only ways they can get rid of part of this fabricated, hypothecated debt is by raising the price of gold. K? So you can disagree all you want. All I was telling you is what Martin Arm or what JD Sinclair
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said. K? Yeah. Well, that's not what Martin Armstrong says, and that's not what Well, that's stupid. That in the financial industry, they're gonna deflate. They're gonna print and print, and they're gonna inflate us out of this. That's exactly what they're gonna do. Choice well, that's the only choice they've got or or or go bankrupt again.
[01:40:39] Unknown:
Inflate or die. That's the only choice they've got.
[01:40:42] Unknown:
They're gonna deflate the currency. They're gonna print the hell out of the Federal Reserve notes, stable coins. We're gonna be the world's reserve currency, mark my words. And, the dollars is is going to be the strongest currency in the world, mark my words. The United 70 to 80% of US Federal Reserve notes are held outside of The United States right now. Go listen to the minister of finance at Russia who was on yesterday accusing Trump of the very very same thing that he says he's gonna do, which is written in the Genius Act, the state the the on the Clarity Act and the Genius Act and that Martin Armstrong has confirmed as several other people as well, even on the Republic call last night. I spoke to Ed from Georgia. He said the exact same thing all these people are saying. It's very evil.
[01:41:29] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I have no doubt. No. I agree with you on that. And, of course, as you know, that you Sinclair's statement was a number of years ago. Technology has changed. Things have changed since then. I was just trying to give people some idea from us, an expert, true expert, of what the value of gold might potentially be. And it's still gonna be a basis because the whole Shanghai thing is based on it, Julie. So don't just discount gold. Okay? I think you're making a big mistake if you do that. And the rest of the world is not ready for a little bit. I never just yeah. The rest of the world is not ready. The whole United States is not ready for digital currency that everybody has to depend on.
21% of the people are totally illiterate. Many of them don't have cell phones. Now all that how they gonna force them onto it, Jolie Julie? How they gonna make the whole system work when they got all these bottom dwellers down there?
[01:42:26] Unknown:
I understand a 100% what you're saying, and I don't ever I never discounted not buying gold or silver. I myself own it. I I support a diversified portfolio of a multitude of assets for everybody. Don't stick all your eggs in one basket. That's what I've done. That's the paper wheel. The way this whole financial system is rolling out, I just disagree with how with some of these people. And I understand exactly what Andy Shechtman's point is. And I understand exactly what Bill Holter's, point is. I just don't agree with that is the way that this is going to be done to pay off this debt. Even if you revalue gold, the $37,000,000,000,000 like we discussed yesterday on your show was more like $250,000,000,000,000 You'd have to revalue gold at such an exponential value in order to even make a dent in our debt. The way they're going to do it is they're going to prick their way out of this, which is going to lead to hyper inflation for We The People, stagflation because our economy is going to take a hit. So you're going to have no economy and you're going to have prices that are going to make the 1929
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period look like a walk in the Central Park. It will be the it will be the biggest financial catastrophe in the history of the planet. There's no doubt about that. And I don't think they can control it. I see that they can't control a whole lot of shit that they think they can control and spiraling out of control against them right now. So, they're losing more every day. Okay? Just look around. So, that we'll see. It's a conundrum. My suggestion is to you, I don't tell you what to do. Just get in the best position you can. The hour is late. If you haven't done much, you don't have much time. And, you you gold and silver are gonna be what? Unaffordium and unobtainium?
They're gonna change the name? Who was trying to say something there? Yeah. This is Judge. And in that same conversation
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of with Jim Sinclair and Holter way back then, they went over what would they thought was going to happen. And they thought that, yes, the digital was gonna come in, but it was going to fail Yeah. After a few years
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Or less. And
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or less. And, Catherine Austin Fitz mentions a country that has tried to go digital, and they're going back to cash. So everything is voluntary. So I think it was Nigeria. Yeah. Yeah. And and everything's voluntary. And, one a couple other things. You know, you're gonna have to with you're you're not gonna you're gonna have to not volunteer into the system in order you can't comply, and it will fail. That's the key. I understand people are gonna starve or think they're gonna starve, and they're gonna go, oh, yeah. I don't have any money to eat. I'm gonna go into the system. Well, hopefully, it fails. It's kinda like, a a Bush with a big boil gold Bitcoin, but he has a Netanyahu pay gold pager in his back pocket. It's gonna blow up in their faces.
[01:45:39] Unknown:
Good, Scott. Do. We no. None of us have a crystal ball. All you can do is prepare the very best you can. And as Thomas Jefferson said, I know no no way better way of predicting the future than looking at the past. So you look at the past. Gold's been the primary, recipient of all that, over all these years on every civilization, period. Silver also, of course. And, to to make the best decisions you can, folks. I'm not gonna tell you what to do.
[01:46:09] Unknown:
You're right.
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But I can just tell you, it ain't pretty up ahead. I'm so fortunate, Paul, to be here in Ecuador. The dollar will be king here. They'll the the people, the Indian population, the stuff, many of which are illiterate, that's what they'll always accept. They'll never accept a cyber CyberCoin. They've already tried that here back when Korea was in power. The Ecuadorians wouldn't accept it. They wouldn't use it. K? So I feel very fortunate to be here. There's a couple other countries. Argentina now, I believe, Panama. There's a small island in the Caribbean that uses the dollar. I don't remember which one it is. I'm sorry. But those countries will assure that the Federal Reserve will have to keep printing dollars.
Yeah. Paul.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
Well, I wouldn't get too excited about the national debt because we're the creditors. That debt is owed to us, and who owes it is the vicious bastards that instituted the feudal system and the monetary system, the debt monetary system in the first place. We are the creditors,
[01:47:24] Unknown:
period. I get on this soapbox and tell you folks we gotta spread this. We got power if we spread this. And one of the thing we can do is point back and say, you see that 37,000,000,000,000? Well, hell, that's all based on fraud. You never asked me if my assistant in The United States are national. You only asked me if I was a citizen in The United States, and you knew damn well there was another one. That's fraud. We ain't paying no fraudulent contracts in treasury bills. Now here's what you could do. With that CUSIP number, if you could go back and trace that CUSIP number, I guess, from the birth certificate all the way through the system and find out who are the owners of the bonds.
And find and if they're if they're bad guys, don't pay them. And if they're mom and pop investors or innocent people, pay them. But but that's a pipe dream, kinda. Just saying that some way that it could be handled down the line should we ever get control. But the whole damn thing is total fraud. Yes, Joe. Hey. How are you doing this morning, buddy?
[01:48:29] Unknown:
I'm doing well. Thank you. Just a brief comment about Paul's comment, and it's this is kinda tongue in cheek, but it's not. If, the national debt is owed to the American people, Where in the hell is my payment?
[01:48:48] Unknown:
You just made it. It's getting hijacked
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along the way.
[01:48:52] Unknown:
It sure is. And they've devised the self you know, Rents asked me that question. Kinda caught me off guard. I've, of course, thought about it before. Who do we owe the debt to? Will we owe the debt to ourselves because we're the collateral for it? Yes. Well, they've got this thing spread Somebody paid one of the payments on it. Yeah. It's designed it is really designed slick, man. These guys Satan's slick, Joe. I bet you'd agree.
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I would agree.
[01:49:22] Unknown:
Hold on. Gold and gold and silver is a good place to put money because it's going up every single day. And the only thing that's gonna happen with the value of gold and silver is that as it goes up, that means that the working value of the dollar has gone. Went down. Went down.
[01:49:44] Unknown:
Right. Right. So my goal that I bought so many hold on. I'm the gold I bought so many years ago, twenty plus years ago at less than $300, has gone up to almost approaching $4,000 an ounce. But that's not a rise in the price of gold. That's a value that has been lost in the paper. Now Here. Here. Thought I heard. Hold on. I thought I heard Waeeb. Roger. Roger. Yes. Wow. There. Michael I told you There he is.
[01:50:12] Unknown:
Go ahead, Waeeb. Hey. Michael Seals you remember Michael Seals from what's that corporation he runs? He bought all that Bitcoin. He's Right. They're saying this Russian got what's it called? MicroStrategy. MicroStrategy. Yeah. They're saying he just came up with an interesting idea. So you he says they're gonna use that, the stablecoin and Bitcoin to pay off the debt, by not paying by doubling it. I left it in the chat. You guys can break it down better than I can. It's a description in this Russian this guy that advises advises, Vladimir Putin. He said that's what he thinks United States is gonna do, pay off that 37,000,000,000,000 with the, stable coins, Bitcoin thing. But you guys look I left it in a chat, and it it's really interesting.
[01:51:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've watched that 10 times. So anybody you you should watch that, but he's talking about stablecoins. He's not talking about Bitcoin there, and that's exactly ties into the Genius Act and the Clarity Act and the anti CBDC surveillance state act. And so that's why they're very pissed off. That's exactly what is planned. And that's, again, that's exactly written out in black and white guide yields.
[01:51:29] Unknown:
Paul, play that short two minute video that with the old man and the young kid explaining the gold. You could.
[01:51:38] Unknown:
Oh, could I say something?
[01:51:40] Unknown:
No. We've got Mer's barred around here.
[01:51:46] Unknown:
Uh-oh. Well, I already sent it to you in the email too, but, rattletrap1776@rumble. And I put Derek Johnson in the, title line there. Now this is a cowboy with a southern accent, but he has a photographic memory and is an expert on the law of war and several other things. And, so you can once you start watching, you can get into it. But, we're basically witnessing all these, military special operations. And, if you'll notice on Trump's baseball cap, right, the, make America great again, it has, what, forty five and forty seven. But what's between them? A dash, a hyphen, not a comma.
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Okay. Okay.
[01:52:39] Unknown:
You get the gist? He's been commander in chief all along, but this is all military operations, including what we saw go down there in Utah. There's a whole lot more to that. Yeah. So, of course, they're using all this energy at the memorial and everything to, further what they wanna do here, which is draw people together. And he does mention Christianity now. He did at the UN yesterday too. And, and the UN is, the times is even saying they're they're kind of, getting wobbly because they're not getting funded. And, so he called out Trump called out from the podium all the different countries.
[01:53:20] Unknown:
He did a good job in that speech. He did a very good job in that speech. He attacked local warming. He said it was all a scam. All a scam. He he really went after some of the foundational pillars of this of their agenda.
[01:53:34] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Yes. But this has long been in the planning. This whole turning point thing, And and you can look at Miles w Mathis too about Kirk. But, you know, you'll see who funded it. It went back to when he was 18 and everything. But it looks like that whole operation was intended for this time to be taken over like it is. A turning point, turning back away from this woke satanic agenda. So we'll see what happens. But as far as gold and silver and all these precious metals and gems and stuff and labor is the only value. You know, it takes mining and refining to get these items. And we, yes, are the creditors, and that's why they want us dead.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Do you know, Murr, that gold, silver, and I guess Bitcoin too are the only assets that don't have to bribe you to own them?
[01:54:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. But the thing is, you know, there's more creative ways with this so called debt. Who do we owe it to, and do we really owe it? Can't we just write it off? No. It's no. It's fraudulent. The whole thing's fraudulent. Okay. I would write it off just like Germany did. And and Basil, the bank over there is way out of line. They're they have total sovereignty and immunity, and they just make stuff up all the time. So
[01:54:56] Unknown:
That's very true. And, they have, the exclusive ownership of the land. Nobody can come in there. You can't serve them papers. They got their own passports, etcetera, etcetera. That's right. But the whole thing's eroding out from under them there. And, we're Let them sink of their own weight. Let them sink of their own weight. And see here let me show you the the power of what we do. What do we do? We go and pull ourselves out of the IRS. Nobody's had any blowbacks on that yet. What's that? That's that attachment to this debt and this interest is compounding for you and your grandchildren and their grandchildren, etcetera.
So we are still with fraud and hold it, Myr. They recognize it because they ain't coming after any of us.
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Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Twice in the Bible, it says Jesus turned over the tree.
[01:55:51] Unknown:
The best way to deal with the debt the best way to deal with the goal with the debt problem is to pull yourself out of the system and the repayment requirements.
[01:56:00] Unknown:
Right. And the best way to turn over the money changers tables euphemistically, which he honors, as you can see, people that have survived that we are told were killed or not. You know, we had Andrew Jackson four or five times. They they tried to take his life, and he he killed the banks. And Adolf Hitler was taken to Argentina, lived out his natural life. And, he basically killed the banks too. JFK, we're told, is ass assassination, but if you look into it, he wasn't. He was taken away. He was removed. He was only shot once in his right shoulder and apparently by none other than Robert Oswald, who was a very sharpshooter.
But, yeah, there's a lot into that. And you can look into, My God, I'm Hit. It's an Internet movie database. Mark Anderson put it up there. You can find it on YouTube or on Bitshoot, not YouTube. Okay. And there's much more, but I've I've dug into that. But You were Also with Trump, in the first in the first administration, what did he do? He didn't start any new wars. Right? Right? He lowered the gas prices, used only the few we weren't energy efficient, even exporting. So he virtually turned over the money changers too money changers tables too. But what we can do to do that is to use cash and checks as exclusively as you can.
[01:57:24] Unknown:
I yield. Do you have the used cash and the the people you're dealing with have either gotta refuse the business or not be able to give you change, Paul?
[01:57:32] Unknown:
We don't have time. I found that I wrote. Two minute and thirty five second video. Maybe we can do it after the whistler.
[01:57:42] Unknown:
Okay. Why he yes. What do you got real quick?
[01:57:50] Unknown:
Ask Julia why is, Michael Sales so against,
[01:57:53] Unknown:
gold and silver. He's so into this Bitcoin. Julia Well, I no. No. We're not she doesn't have time to answer. We're checking out the program right now. That's not a yes or no answer. We're not gonna deal with it. After show, maybe. I don't care. I don't care what he thinks. Okay? Will, thanks for spending the time with us today. We've had two pretty in-depth discussion shows two days in a row, but I hadn't heard Charlie Kirk's name mentioned hardly once. So I guess we're getting off of that, predominating subject.
But anyway, we'll be back tomorrow, see what happens the rest of the day today. All that stuff. They're very exciting times. Just remember, men have wanted to be alive right now for thousands of years, and here we are. And not only here we are, we have very, very damaging insight into our enemies, how they do things, and we can be the ants that bring the grasshoppers down One day at a time, folks. One day at a time. We'll see you tomorrow. Hope you got something out of today's, few hours. And we're gonna lay our bodies down right now. There we go. See you. Ciao.
Okay. Alright.
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The effects of leaving the gold standard.
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America's gold was supposed to back the dollar. Leaving the gold standard was the most costly mistake we ever made.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Well, Michael sales sales is saying
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is is saying, hey. What was so bad about gold? No. No. It kept him on. Why Waheed, he's are are you playing this video, Paul? Yeah. Yeah. I am. Waheed, why are you interrupting?
[01:59:43] Unknown:
We'll get to your thing. Just wait a minute. Go ahead. We'll get to we'll get to your question. Here we go. Start it
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over. America's gold was supposed to back the dollar. Leaving the gold standard was the most costly mistake we ever made.
[02:00:04] Unknown:
What was so bad about gold?
[02:00:06] Unknown:
It kept them honest, but they wanted power. You know, kid, folks today think this is just how life's supposed to be. What do you mean? Back in my day, one job could feed a family. My mother stayed home, father worked, and we ate together every night. Didn't realize how good we had it. After the World War, they promised gold backed dollars, but they broke that promise. They printed paper backed by nothing, funded wars we couldn't afford and shouldn't have been involved in. But France caught on and sent a warship to get back their gold. Truth is, if more countries followed, our vaults would be empty and game over.
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I have directed the secretary of the treasury to take the action necessary to suspend temporarily the convertibility
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of the dollar into gold. Turns out, when you fake the money, everything else follows, and you screw the next generation over. And it snowballs, kid. Prices shot up, paychecks didn't, life got tougher, and nobody knew why. We tried raising our kids the old way, but we didn't have the time or the money. So you outsource parenting? Yeah. I guess you could say we did. Government schools raised them, and the TV taught them bad morals. They learned debt, not savings, bought houses they couldn't afford, played video games, gambling, antidepressants, and crimes, families fractured, divorce rates doubled, birth rates plummeted, things got so bad people started financing Chipotle.
[02:01:41] Unknown:
Financing a burrito?
[02:01:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It's getting bad. Obesity. People eating cheap slop instead of real food. We got softer, sicker, and lazier. A nation in decline, but it didn't happen overnight. When Nixon left the gold standard, we traded sound money for a lifetime of debt. How will they ever pay it back? I don't think they plan to. Both sides keep spending like there's no tomorrow and leaving the bill to your generation. We didn't get it right, but you still got a chance. So take the reins, kid. Hold your ground, and don't give up on sound money.
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Yep.
[02:02:31] Unknown:
There he goes. Alright. Bitcoin commercial.
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But it was absolutely true.
[02:02:38] Unknown:
Alright. Do you like Bitcoin? Roger. Go get it. Okay? Everybody's situation is different. Yes, Larry. We're gonna get to Wahid in a second. Go ahead. Yeah. Do you have a comment on what just played Larry, or we're gonna go to Wahid first?
[02:02:57] Unknown:
Well, it it was a comment that was said, by Murr. She doesn't believe, Kennedy was assassinated. Do you believe that?
[02:03:07] Unknown:
Come on, Larry. I I I was gonna give a disclaimer when Murr was going over all of her stuff, and she's been very adamant about things that she was absolutely totally incorrect about before. So I just kinda take all that with a grain of salt.
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K?
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K? If you'll hang around into the after show, I'm sure you and Mer can discuss it.
[02:03:30] Unknown:
Yeah. And she can tell your theories on who Alex Jones really is. Go go ahead, Waiheep.
[02:03:37] Unknown:
Roger, yes. I this is why I want to get Julia's take on what that gentleman was saying about how they're gonna use Stablecoin to, pay off that $37,000,000,000,000 debt. Because she she's she's heard what I heard. She watched that same video. And, but he is saying he says that we spoke he wants to get rid of gold to Michael Thales, and I that's the question I wanted to know. Why seem so adamant about getting rid of the gold and silver in exchange for for Bitcoin and stable coin and all this stuff? If if Jew if Julie is around
[02:04:17] Unknown:
I don't know, and I don't care. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Okay? Julie, you're gonna answer Waiheeb's question? I am. I am. Anybody else got anything for me? Okay. Because I don't care, Waiheeb. Alright. Thank you. Pleasure to talk to you. Alright. Always good to be with you guys. I'll see you tomorrow. Ciao ciao.
[02:04:36] Unknown:
Thanks. Bye bye. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, you gotta understand why BRICS was formed, and and, and why it was formed. It was formed because Majorcas kicked Russia off of the SWIFT system here in The United States. And so, and then he threatened China and told China that if you help out Russia, we're gonna kick you off of the SWIFT system too. That's why BRICS was formed. It's a parallel system running parallel to the SWIFT system, and now they're playing games with The United States going back and forth saying we're not gonna let The United States or Europe or Canada or New Zealand onto the, onto the BRICS system.
Only our select countries will be able to run financial transactions on this, which is really going to be devastating given the fact that The United States is the largest consumer economy in the world. Even if you combine all the BRICS nations together, we have the largest consumer, economy in the world. But what Michael Saylor was suggesting that Trump do is dump all of The United States gold, just dump it, which would send gold prices down. It would screw over all of the central banks that have purchased gold and are holding gold and to buy, buy up Bitcoin with it and and use that then to pay off the the debt. I don't think that's going to that's not what's going to be done with all of these three apps that are going to be passed involving the stable coin, which will be backed by treasuries and United States fiat, United States fiat notes and then treasury bills, bonds and notes. That's exactly what it's gonna so everybody who's saying that the dollar is going away, that's a lie. Everybody who's saying that the treasury is gonna go away, that's a lie. All of these new US dollars, USDC, USDT, and USD1 are going to be backed by, Federal Reserve notes and a US Treasury bill sponsor notes written in in plain sight on congress.gov, house.gov, federalregister.gov.
You can download the bills and read them and, like I did, and it's written in plain sight what they're planning on doing.
[02:06:49] Unknown:
What are the there's some guy on Wall Street talking about? He's saying that, good luck to the bricks because no matter what, the the dollar is gonna be around a long time because sixty sixty to 70% of the foreign assets are held in dollars. Yeah. Absolutely. 100%.
[02:07:10] Unknown:
Yep. 100%. And and by the way, once this takes place, Trump is gonna have his own, what's happening right now is that all the central banks are gonna be privatized and, the central bank's main responsibility is to manage the money supply in our currency. So they're taking it away from the government and they're basically placing it into a few private hands. So that's exactly what's happening and, if you just you can see what's happening right now. Go look at the last Treasury auction that took place in August. Who was the largest buyer? Stablecoins. So people saying Roger's saying, oh, look at the the last Treasury auction was horrible. It was just horrible. Nobody bought our debt. Yeah, they did. Stablecoins did. Stablecoins now are the eighteenth largest buyer of treasuries.
It's one big Ponzi scheme. I mean, we we we loan money our government loans money to itself.
[02:08:13] Unknown:
The the inflation got is gonna be it's already astronomical.
[02:08:19] Unknown:
Yes. It's going to be astronomical because the central bankers are going to be responsible for the control and the money supply and they're going to be every they're going to be in control of who gets to buy the treasuries. And the crappier and the worse our economy gets, the higher the treasury yield and the more money he's gonna make. So all these central banks don't help anybody but the people who own them, like Donald j Trump and his clunies.
[02:08:44] Unknown:
Oh, man. Like the guy at the gas station. I know a guy that owns the gas station, and me and him are the man running back.
[02:08:52] Unknown:
Oh, man.
[02:08:54] Unknown:
Oh, debt cancellation. What it's all about.
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Comment?
[02:09:05] Unknown:
Martin Armstrong. I'm going to quote him. World war is coming. Now do you believe digital infrastructure and all of that all the accoutrements of digital infrastructure is gonna stay in place when everybody's using their high-tech weapons? I don't think so. I yield.
[02:09:34] Unknown:
Well, listen, I follow him too, and, you know, this is gonna get during wars, all debts get canceled. That's why all the central banks are buying gold right now. Because during a war, you know, China's holding on to treasuries. Do you think they're going to get paid on them during war? No. There's no debt that's going to get paid. And it's not just The United States that owes other countries money. Other countries owe The United States money and other countries owe, debt, you know, debt to other countries as well. So, right now, you've got Europe planning on attacking Russia. They have no choice. The United States down in Venezuela and now China and Russia have sent ships. You've got North Korea and South Korea going at it. You've got Pakistan and India going at it. You've got Israel and Iran going at it with The United States involved. You've got Russia and Ukraine going at it with The United States involved. You've got Israel and Palestine going at it with The United States involved. You've got China and Taiwan going at it with The United States involved. And you've got China and Australia going in it. And Australia has already been basically taken over by China. I can go on and on and on and on. This is all preplanned.
Martin Armstrong's, Socrates AI computer, based on pie and all of his mathematics and stuff has predicted this and he's tried to get he's tried to feed it all sorts of different scenarios from this being stopped. And the computer comes back and says no. I, we don't know. All we can do is pray that this doesn't happen, but be prepared if it does.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
I have a question. How does BlackRock State Street and Vanguard figure into this monetary or currency thing? Are they the holders in, the land, so to speak?
[02:11:28] Unknown:
And They own it. They own everything. They own everything. They they own they own the Hold on, Julie. Let me
[02:11:35] Unknown:
just the distinction. So, those three own the land or the property. Let's put it that way. And then the bankers control the money system or the currency. So are they in cahoots together? Do they own each other's stable coin? Okay. So a stable coin part of their portfolio, so to speak.
[02:12:06] Unknown:
BlackRock owns Ripple Labs. USDC, United States Dollar Tether just moved their headquarters down to how convenient El Salvador would be near, Bukele.
[02:12:26] Unknown:
Did did you say that the treasury who owns, RBX? The the Bitcoin is the same. The the crypto is the same. XRP. Who owns it again?
[02:12:40] Unknown:
XRP is was created by Ripple.
[02:12:43] Unknown:
Ripple. Ripple owns XRP.
[02:12:48] Unknown:
Stellar owns Stellar owns Stellar created XLMs, Ripple created XRP. Ripple Labs has just moved their headquarters down to El Salvador to be next to Bukele that was done on purpose. And Ripple Labs is in bed with BlackRock. Mark my words. BlackRock does not just own land and homes. They own the world. If you really want to know, you'll never figure out who the shareholders are among BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street, because they are the bloodline families. And there no one's going to know who the true owners are of those evil corporations, which basically control all of the major industries. And right now, they own the mineral, they're buying up water rights, they're buying up mineral rights and they're buying up land and they're buying up houses.
[02:13:39] Unknown:
Yeah, Ripple was created to try to put either put Swift out of business or compete with them because Swift operates on a five day work week nine to five where XRP can do cross border payments within seconds for pennies or even less than a penny where Swift charges a lot of money and you got to wait and do it on their timetable. So XRP was created by Ripple to be a cross border payment rail and then the RLUSD was supposed to be a stable coin for Ripple. So, how it all how it's going to shake out in the end, I don't know. I have a friend of mine who invests in all of that stuff. I mean, I can't afford it, but she, you know, she tells me all the time about all this stuff. She trades daily on it, and she's saying that XRP, it's somewhere she said it was somewhere around $3 apiece, and that they anticipate this stuff going double, triple digit over the next year or two.
[02:14:52] Unknown:
Yeah, well, it's not just XRP and XLM. You've got the XDC network, you've got Solana, you've got HBAR. I mean, it does create, it does facilitate cross border payments and it is it was created by Ripple and it is fast and cheap. So that's one of the things and you know, Bitcoin, was created by DARPA for money laundering and child sex trafficking. So the fate of Bitcoin and where it goes, I have no clue. But you know, I know that, John, out in California is a big holder and loves Bitcoin. I'm not a fan of Bitcoin, but I own the other, I own the other cryptos.
But, you know, XRP is going to play a role in the new digital coin, the new digital financial system. And it's going to be, you know, a mainstay in that system. So it was created here in The United States. And so, if the BRICS nations don't think they're going to need XRP, for an off rail system, see, it's not just cross, it's also the rail system that works with XRP. They're going to have to use XRP. So if they think they're going to play games and kick The United States off the BRICS system, The United States will just say, look, you're not allowed to be on the XRP system either. I mean, there's just so many factors that are, people are fighting right now. I mean, again, like Martin, Armstrong says, the war that's coming is I don't see where it's not going to come. Europe is in the biggest mess they could ever be. There's no way out except for war with, with with that Europe. Europe needs war to erase their debt.
[02:16:35] Unknown:
And what you have here in The United States, what I'm starting to see here is that I'm seeing a lot of agitation and instigation of like trying to start another racial conflict here.
[02:16:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, all I know is that, XRP is going to play a critical role because it's basically going to act like a neutral liquidity bridge. It's going to be bridging the fiat system, which basically is all currencies of the world. Is going to bridge all stablecoins, which are all digital currencies and all tokenized assets, which will include real estate and commodities. So,
[02:17:14] Unknown:
Well, the tech industry is laying off the unemployment thing is getting way out of hand. It it have you heard what is the latest on that?
[02:17:24] Unknown:
On latest on what, Wahid?
[02:17:28] Unknown:
From unemployment
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Unemployment in the tech industry and in general because of AI, you're saying. Did you just see the Bureau of Line Statistics, otherwise known as the Bureau of Labor Statistics? They adjusted the their numbers of job creation by over a million. I don't believe any statistics that come out of the, fake phony, lying, mafia run corporate government. And I will tell you guys the dollar is going to remain the dominant in the digital ecosystem. So XRP is a cross asset solution and it will serve as a bridge to the global market, but the dollar will remain the dominant in the digital ecosystem. Every single person overseas wants to hold dollars. They don't trust their own government. You think we don't trust our government here? It's even worse than some of these third world countries. So, with the digital system, all of those individuals, the entire world population are going to be able to hold on to stakebook coins with what's rolling out.
And they're going to be back from treasuries.
[02:18:37] Unknown:
Where is, the guy from Golden Donkey? I can't think his name right now. Yeah. I haven't heard from you in a while. Come on. Help me. I'm I'm having a Jim Willie. Where is he? I'm not seeing him any
[02:18:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a work. He's all over the place. He's all over the place. I have a consult a consult with him next week. He's on Rumble.
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Rumble.
[02:19:12] Unknown:
Hey, Julie.
[02:19:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, Dave. I got it.
[02:19:17] Unknown:
Go ahead. I have a question when you're done with Julie for you.
[02:19:22] Unknown:
Okay. Have you talked about why all the every country out there is buying as much gold as they can buy? Yeah. Of course. We're going to war.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Every country listen to Martin Armstrong. We are going to war. When you are going to war, you don't wanna hold on to your adversaries' debt because they're buying up gold right now because every single debt that you own of any other country is going to be going to zero. I just read off all the countries that are going to war. Imagine all the countries in Europe going to war. That's happening right now. They just announced yester Martin Armstrong got a hold of a classified document, for Germany, France and and some other country in Europe, saying warning all hospitals to get prepared and to stock up.
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And they're all bankrupt countries.
[02:20:09] Unknown:
The whole world is bankrupt.
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Okay. Which stop sketch?
[02:20:17] Unknown:
Oh. Just for the war thing real quick, stat sketch, if you don't mind. What if they staged a war and no one went? Wouldn't that be amazing? And are you They could be doing that right now.
[02:20:31] Unknown:
Thank you, Sherry. I was thinking that same thought myself. What if the war and nobody came. Dave, if you could get back to me after this conversation, about, Bloomin' Minerals and percentages of, like, lead, cesium, fluoride in in inside Bloomin Minerals and why the percentages aren't listed. Thank you very much. Research that. I appreciate it.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
Oh, okay. I think I got a a text from you. Right?
[02:21:07] Unknown:
No. No. No. I just I I was I was gonna purchase that then. A text from you with,
[02:21:13] Unknown:
Gary's phone number. Right? Yes. Yes. You did. Can I call you?
[02:21:17] Unknown:
Yes. You can call me. Just I I wanna know why the percentages are, of those heavy metals and and and stuff that I was like, so I'm putting that in my soil. You know? So I just It it look.
[02:21:31] Unknown:
Let me I can explain it real quick right now. Their plant derived minerals don't really have lead and, you know, all those those minerals in them. The the plants already broke them down, so now they're bioavailable and they're in trace amounts. The body well, it says the body has to have arsenic and lead and those other poisonous minerals or it can't function properly. And it's it's only in in very trace amounts. I'm pretty sure my the I'll I'll have to, take a picture of a label. Is Gregory on? He might be able to take a picture of his label because he got a bag of minerals from me, and and it should have those, percentages. Sure. High yield. Alright. Thank you. May I?
[02:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Isn't it important to denote the difference between calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride? One being from the almighty and one being from man?
[02:22:39] Unknown:
Yes.
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Okay. Yes. I was just
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wondering why the the the percentages if it's trace amounts, I guess you can't have, the percentages in it, and I understand that. I I yield, and we'll me and Dave can talk over the And if I may, Scott, one more thing.
[02:22:57] Unknown:
The fluoride is calcium fluoride, not hydrofluoricilicic acid. That's man made. Right. Yeah. That is man made. That is the most deadly, the most toxic, acid known to man, and it no way is that they can't put that in it. You know? It it wouldn't hold up in the bag. It's just it's yeah. That's man made from when they they mine,
[02:23:28] Unknown:
phosphates and when they smelt aluminum. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Well, I think you answered all my questions. We don't have to talk any further. These Okay. Plant based, mineral Right. Bedding. Yep. So I appreciate that answer. And one last question or one last statement on war. You know, I I think I think, there's gonna be a golden pager in in digital currency, and it's gonna blow up. That's my take on it, especially if war happens. I don't see how tech you know, digital tech is not secure. So I just don't see how I mean, fraud's been going on forever.
So I guess fraud will continue until we get it together. I heal.
[02:24:19] Unknown:
Okay. May I speak to that? Is my voice modulating okay? It's gonna be plausible deniability if you have your riches or, in the electronics and relying on electricity in which to transfer fund or do whatever with them and war breaks out. Oh, the electricity goes off. What can we do about that? I'm just saying it's, it's set up to fail and I yield for that comment. I I think I think everybody's
[02:25:09] Unknown:
seen the, Simpsons where, the young kid, goes in and deposit money. And and right after that, I'd like to take some money out, and it's gone. I yield. It's Question. I am here.
[02:25:26] Unknown:
Sorry I didn't get back to you, but, I I've been planning on giving you a call. I just didn't feel right. Anyways, yeah, those plant derived minerals are very good, and we're composed of all the minerals and everything on the planet. It's I mean, too much air will kill you. Too much water will kill you. You just get to, you know, ration your amount and don't overindulge. As far as war is concerned, we've been we've we've I was born in war, and, it's still going on. It's silent weapons for quiet wars. It's it's all around us, and our enemy is primarily ourselves, I I've been realizing because they have they've made us dual personalities and and have divided and are trying to conquer our minds.
And they've done a real good job of it. Over.
[02:26:33] Unknown:
Hey, Greg. Just, look at the label on your bag if you can and see if they have the percentages, or does it just say trace minerals? Do they have the percentages of each mineral that is in there? That's what I'm trying to get at. Or is it just say trace minerals on the label on your 40 pound bag? I appreciate it. Get back to me. Yeah. I would suggest that it's not there. It isn't on mine, but you can look on the bottle that Youngevity puts out,
[02:27:06] Unknown:
and you get at least a list. I don't think there's still percentages there, though, if I'm if I remember right. Right. They they make that in their in their form. You know, it's a liquid, that they sell for about $25 a quart.
[02:27:22] Unknown:
Yeah. You can look there. The 40 pound bag of,
[02:27:27] Unknown:
yes. Well, it's like this 50. It's I have 50 pound bags. That's what Gregory got, but, there's something called the LD fifty. It's a toxic amount, and doctor Glidden says the LD fifty on the plant derived minerals is nine hundred quartz. You have to drink 900 quartz in twenty four hours in order for it to be toxic. I
[02:27:52] Unknown:
yield. Understood. And I I appreciate you you answering me, and I I will probably start getting trying to get some. Appreciate it.
[02:28:02] Unknown:
I was also I had a question for Julie. She says we're gonna go to a private money system. Well, aren't we in a private money system?
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Mhmm.
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What? It's Yeah. 900 cards?
[02:28:17] Unknown:
Well, we're somewhat in a private money system with just the Federal Reserve. But the Treasury government based system, that's going to go away. It's going to go to Ripple. It's going to go to USDT, Tether like I said, USDC, which is, Circle, and it's gonna go to Trump. So the central banks are gonna be we're we're headed into we're already there and it's technocracy. 900 Yes. And we are participating.
[02:28:50] Unknown:
That's the problem. Just like with war, if we stood down, there would be nothing they could do. Use cash, use
[02:29:03] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Or something.
[02:29:05] Unknown:
Fred's been a lot.
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If there was a that again, please,
[02:29:12] Unknown:
Joe? I I didn't hear you. Just a moment. Thought rip I thought ripple was something Fred Sanford liked.
[02:29:19] Unknown:
Oh, yes. That's so funny. Thank you.
[02:29:23] Unknown:
Well, he likes to mix it with, ripple and champagne. He called it champipple.
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They,
[02:29:33] Unknown:
scratch. I've got my live earth fulvic powder, and all that said is Live Earth liquid fulvic acid is a cold water extraction fulvic acid containing over 70 minerals. No additional ingredients. And, Sherry, to your point, if there was an election and nobody voted, what would be the outcome there? I I don't think
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there would be no change.
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Oh, they just they'd vote for you.
[02:30:08] Unknown:
There'd be no They do. I mean, they pick they pick their poison. If you do vote, they'll just throw out some fictitious numbers to make it look to the people that somebody actually voted, and then they'll say, winner by a landslide. Our guy.
[02:30:28] Unknown:
Yeah. But that's the difference between paper and people. A vote can be had just by paper alone. People are required for a war. People are required to, invest or, not participate in a economy.
[02:30:49] Unknown:
Gary, you gotta back off your phone. You're really you're really crackly even breaking up. Well, I'm not even speaking into it. Okay. Doesn't matter. Your phone is, like, super loud.
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Okay. Doesn't matter. Is this better? No. I don't even
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I shall whisper too.
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Oh, I gotta whisper. Okay. Yes.
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Sound
[02:31:14] Unknown:
sound familiar. This is Sam in, this is Sam in Houston. Julie, is it possible is there another chat room available so we get to finish the conversation about the, economic system coming up?
[02:31:31] Unknown:
You can call Paul, and he'll he can give you I don't have another channel. You can call Paul, and he'll give you my contact information. You're welcome to call me.
[02:31:39] Unknown:
You can just go ahead and continue talking about it here.
[02:31:44] Unknown:
Why not? Well, in in between, you know, nutraceuticals and stuff like that.
[02:31:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Because everybody wants to talk about what they wanna talk about. But just go ahead. Can
[02:32:01] Unknown:
Jill, can you ex can you kind of go in-depth about what you think is coming up? I mean, just lay it out. I respect your opinion.
[02:32:15] Unknown:
Total and utter decimation. I think what's going to roll out is, the Communist Manifesto. I think it's already here. I think that we'll get a digital, concentration camp for I I'm sorry. I gotta go to my client, you guys. I'll get back on in a second.
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Yep. See? So what good would have you done when you go to another room? I'm just saying.
[02:32:47] Unknown:
Do you, I had heard that taking a half teaspoon of salt smell that real quick. Is, really good for you. Anybody got that, like, Celtic sea salt or whatever with the trace minerals?
[02:33:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I have the Celtic sea salt.
[02:33:03] Unknown:
Like, half half a teaspoon a day
[02:33:06] Unknown:
in warm water? About a half a teaspoon in a gallon of water.
[02:33:10] Unknown:
In a gallon of water? Oh, that's not much.
[02:33:14] Unknown:
You don't think much. But every single gallon, should I put more in there? Because according to the instructions, it said one teaspoon. Our table's here. I'm sorry. Duh. Thank you. I'm sorry. Not too soon. Duh. I was well, I did a recipe last night and and called for yeah. But anyway What what? On this money? I made a recipe last night that I had never done before, and normally, I eye everything out because I don't need to measure. But I had a teaspoon on my brains. I meant tablespoon. What'd you bake? In a gallon of Or make. Or make.
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If you don't mind. Just curious.
[02:33:51] Unknown:
What the heck is the name of it? Oh, lasagna soup.
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Oh, yummy. Alright. Continue. I
[02:33:58] Unknown:
Real quick. Field. I was on I don't know about a about a week ago, and I brought up the great deal. So I know because I had put some bills out there for, you know, everybody to look up to see because Tennessee, South Dakota are trying to stop what is going on, what Julie is talking about because they basically bargained all our crap.
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Do you mean the great taking?
[02:34:26] Unknown:
Yeah. The great taking. Sorry. Okay. So that pertains to a lot of this too, doesn't it? I mean, I do not understand Bitcoin. I don't understand what's fracking it and how I do know that a lot of people that are in it and big into it, like doctor Jack Cruz, Jeff Berwick. I mean, they have a lot a lot a lot a lot of Bitcoin. But I also have been doing some research on these Bitcoin centers, so to speak, because they're all computers. And they're putting poison out there too because people are mining constantly for Bitcoin. But that being said, they're claiming that the Bitcoin's gonna be decentralized, and I don't know if that's true.
[02:35:08] Unknown:
Well, I think Stablecoin is going to, it's made to take down Bitcoin. And if you can't touch it, you do not own it. That's my thinking.
[02:35:30] Unknown:
But also, like, didn't all of is it Spain? Maybe it I can't remember what country it is. But one of them uses Bitcoin the whole entire the president of whatever. I can't even remember. I'm having a brain fart. I think it's Central America. Yeah. They their president, that's what they use is Bitcoin. But what bothers me?
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Salvador, maybe?
[02:35:55] Unknown:
Yeah. El Salvador. Thank you. But what are they gonna do when the power goes out?
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And isn't that where Julie just said one of those companies moved to moved to? Yeah. To uh-huh.
[02:36:12] Unknown:
But it also produces a lot of air pollution. They produce a lot of air pollution because they take a lot of generating to cool them down, those big gigantic computers. I mean, there's they're having problems in Texas right now where one of them is.
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And they can't get Well, if we don't participate,
[02:36:32] Unknown:
I won't participate in it.
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So we have to stop not participating in wars. Do not participate in electronic means of exchange. And I I know it's convenient.
[02:36:47] Unknown:
I don't even use my phone. I I don't mind. I have a credit union for a bank, so we don't have CAPT. We don't have Zelle. We don't have none of that. So they won't allow it. That bank won't because it's a privately owned bank. They don't allow that. But, also, too, I don't I use cash for everything. I go withdraw it right out of the bank, and I use literally cash for everything.
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Yeah.
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I mean, because just I don't know. I don't see the dollar going anywhere anytime soon, but I do know it's lost its value. I yield.
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We have to be cognizant of what we participate in And I yield.
[02:37:33] Unknown:
That dollar is not going anywhere. If it does, it'll take ten, twenty, thirty years from now. But the older people will keep on using cash. The younger people will keep on using digital money until dissipate all the cash little by little.
[02:37:50] Unknown:
If I may, one of the the bills that Trump recently passed said cash is illicit. That means it's used for buying drugs for drug dealers and pedophiles. They want to make cash illegal, and they may have already done it in those bills. I yield.
[02:38:14] Unknown:
Hey, Dave. Just to add to that thought, I remember only if I had a bad time. To hang up and call back
[02:38:24] Unknown:
because you're, like, crackling terribly. You're crackling terribly. You're gonna have to hang up and call back.
[02:38:31] Unknown:
Sound horrible. Is this better?
[02:38:33] Unknown:
No. No. Hang up and call back.
[02:38:37] Unknown:
I'm on a callback. Crazy.
[02:38:40] Unknown:
Okay. Do it again. Maybe you'll get on a different trunk. Crazy loud. Oh, let's just hang around and wait.
[02:39:18] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. And, George, the thing about putting salt in the water, does anybody know you're just supposed to put enough where you still don't taste the salt? You can put are you are are you supposed to be able to taste the salt? Is it supposed to taste salty water even if it's slightly salty or No. Just enough so it does not taste salty at all? No. You should just cook with it? What?
[02:39:49] Unknown:
Why don't you just cook with it, and you don't have to worry about that? It'll be in your food and the water and everything. Oh, yeah.
[02:39:59] Unknown:
Right. Why don't you take it too easy? I take care care care take care one to it.
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Yeah. That too.
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Yeah.
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That way the water Oh, I also put it under my tongue. Will
[02:40:22] Unknown:
Yeah. That too, Mary.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I yeah. Because well, I'm a saltaholic anyway. If you guys could see my food when I eat, it's it's we'll we'll call it snowing. That's how much salt I use.
[02:40:34] Unknown:
Do you use table salt? Have. Do you use table salt? No.
[02:40:40] Unknown:
No. I used to. I used to. It's been about, oh god, five years since I've used table salt, maybe longer. No. I use Celtic salt. I'll I I don't the the Himalayan you know, because I used to cook with the Himalayan sea salt, but those some of those places are, like, iffy where you get it from. But because I have well water, it turns it foamy. I don't use that anymore. The Celtic salt doesn't seem to be doing that. You know, like, if I put it in for, you know, potatoes or pasta or whatever, it doesn't get foamy. So it does pretty well with my well water.
[02:41:17] Unknown:
Maybe it's your water. Is this better?
[02:41:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Much better.
[02:41:24] Unknown:
Wow. I tried dialing in directly to conference call and heard Joan speaking for two seconds and lost contact, and I've had the system call me back. So, anyway, it's weird. Up there are few up approved. Alrighty.
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Actually,
[02:41:53] Unknown:
you were you were cracking up there when you were talking. And, unless you can get on a different phone, I just don't think there's any way we can fix it. Am I still cracking? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. When you when you raise your voice slightly. You don't even have to raise it that much.
[02:42:17] Unknown:
Who? What's the So You can turn down your volume on your phone.
[02:42:24] Unknown:
No. That only control that only controls the speaker volume, not the microphone volume. And the lower your speaker is, the more likely you are to subconsciously raise your voice making the matter making matters worse. So bad idea. Alright. Alright. Thanks anyways, but bad idea.
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May I revisit the poison as they say in Brooklyn?
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Poison?
[02:42:58] Unknown:
Yeah. The poison. What poison? People who need people. Here's a great statement on a notice that went to a California, sighting on the vehicle code. And this point is really good, well taken. There could be no doubt that the legislatures who created this statute were well aware of the words men and women, which might seem to have been more appropriately used in the definition of person. That is if it was the actual intent of the legislature to legally equate real life flesh and blood men and women with Walmart. So reasonable indicate that the legislators use instead of the term natural person was clearly intentional.
That is legislators intentionally avoided use of the words men and women because to those to use those words would have actually created a grammatical error and would have been otherwise undesirable because the term natural person is also a reference to an artificial entity. As I shall explain as I go on, I contend that everything ever written by any legislature is, if nothing else, always grammatically correct. So then how does the word natural modify the word person in order to avoid a grammatical error? Anyway, it goes on if anybody wants a copy of this sentence. I think I sent sent it to Sherry. It's it's well, well written.
And gets it exactly what we were discussing this morning.
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You can send it to me.
[02:44:27] Unknown:
Send it to me. Thank you, George.
[02:44:33] Unknown:
Yes. I sent I sent it to you last week or week before.
[02:44:37] Unknown:
Oh.
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In the book of the hundreds, they link it to human being.
[02:44:45] Unknown:
Oh, what thickens?
[02:44:51] Unknown:
And when you're talking to AI about the Bible, they just love that word human being. I say, I keep correcting them. No. Please don't use the term.
[02:45:05] Unknown:
Yeah. AI probably says that Charlie is dead.
[02:45:11] Unknown:
Well, that's in the book of the hundreds, that definition includes persons, natural man, natural person, I forget exactly, but, they tie them all together to a non spiritual entity. So no soul in the creation of the government. So why ever use the term? I I would suggest just sticking with man, woman, and child.
[02:45:45] Unknown:
Makes it simple. That would be a. The civil peace flag was flown for only a couple years right after the civil war on every postal office
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that they had at the time,
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Both Confederate and Union.
[02:46:08] Unknown:
I have a peace flag, but I can't find it. It's around here somewhere.
[02:46:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Norm Franz. Franz is spelled r f r a n z. His quote, a new millennium. Gold is money of kings. Silver is the money of gentlemen. Barter is the money of peasants, but debt is this money of slaves.
[02:46:51] Unknown:
If I may Oh, you're looking for the flag, Paul? I got it in my profile.
[02:46:57] Unknown:
I'm Yeah. I love it. I'd like to talk about that peace flag. Nope. Go ahead. I'm I'm not looking for the flag. I'm looking for my flag. I actually physically own one of those flags, and I would love to fly it on my brand new porch, but I can't find it.
[02:47:18] Unknown:
Okay. The civil peace flag was created after the revolutionary war war for for the coast guard because it was a revenue flag. And they were going after the ships on the high seas that were transporting goods without paying a tax, and they call it the civil peace flag because it was after the war ended and the the bars fly the opposite way. And but if, you know, when it hangs as a banner on your home, it's supposed to represent that, you know, you are in peace. You are not at war. And you never fly it on a pole, you hang it as a banner. And I've heard a lot of stories. I know our assembly uses one, in in all of our, in person meetings.
And anytime a new county or state becomes, settled, they send them the Michigan Assembly sends them a civil peace flag, and I yield.
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Okay.
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Is this better?
[02:48:45] Unknown:
Holy crap. You're a little bitty.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
I'm itty bitty. You're a little bitty. See how they mess with your phone?
[02:48:54] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
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I'm either too hot, too cold.
[02:49:03] Unknown:
I think it's a conspiracy. I do believe it's a conspiracy.
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All good.
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Itty itty bitty pretty.
[02:49:15] Unknown:
Yeah. She's a little bitty. Now you sound far away, Joan.
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I am far away.
[02:49:25] Unknown:
What's more, I am a figment of your imagination. Giddy? Never mind. I fed you last week. You don't need nothing. No. No. I fed you last week. I think it was even on on Saturday. It was the very end of the week. There's next to no time at all has elapsed since the last time you ate. Cut it out. Quit your bitching. Go lay down. Go catch a mouse or something. Now before you guys think I'm absolutely horrible, she gets fed four times a day. She gets two tablespoons of food every single time she asks for it. And she gets sardines every other day.
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My cat is the same way. It's the second I get up, she thinks she needs to eat. And I'm on a farm. Do you think she touches any of the mice that we get riddled with in the wintertime? Oh, no. She just watches them run around. Just watches them run. The the chihuahua takes the money. Can I move in with you, Paul?
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Can I move in with you, Paul, so I can get fed?
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Of course, I use the very two pounds a week. I heard this is so cute, and it's so real. Dogs are givers. Cats are takers. I yield.
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No. My kitty's a sweetie.
[02:51:03] Unknown:
Mine's a sweetheart too. And she's a a tortoiseshell calico, which they're usually mean, and she's not. She's a sweetheart. And they usually hide from people, but not her.
[02:51:16] Unknown:
Every calico I've ever known has been an been an absolute sweetie.
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They're just yeah. I mean, I only have one cat, but
[02:51:26] Unknown:
Black cats are actually a gift. They're a gift. White cats Great cats are horrible. Little bastards are evil.
[02:51:37] Unknown:
You know what? My dad named his white cat bipolar
[02:51:42] Unknown:
because she was crazy.
[02:51:45] Unknown:
That literally was her name, bipolar.
[02:51:48] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:51:50] Unknown:
And then my sister has a gray cat. Every time I go over there, she attacks me, and I say, I rescued that cat. I'm like, I saved your life. Why do you attack me?
[02:52:02] Unknown:
Hey. I saved your life. I can cost you one of them.
[02:52:07] Unknown:
You only have nine Oh, yeah. My sister got in a lot of trouble. She's got nursing coming in helping to take care of her because she got all those jabs, and she's very ill. But Uh-huh. One the cat attacked one of the nurses. And then because my sister doesn't have any money, she, I had to figure out a way because they said that cat has to be put in a cage. I brought her a I brought her a cage to keep the cat in. So when somebody's there, she has to put her in a cage. And then she had to go get rabies shots, which I don't agree with rabies either. Rabies shot. None of my animals have shots, and I'm never getting them. But, yeah, it's like this cat is bad. She's like feral, but she's not feral. She's nice to my sister, but feral with everybody else.
Crazy. Never seen anything like it.
[02:52:53] Unknown:
Put your sister on glutathione.
[02:52:57] Unknown:
She won't listen to me. She's stuck in the matrix. She thinks the guy in the white coat is a god. My sister is a walking pharmacy. She's got a blood disease that she gets blood clots. She gets, and that's because back in the sixties when Angie was born, she was born with no hemoglobin, so they gave her a full transfusion. I don't know what kind of blood she got back in the day. We don't know. Plus her lifestyle was not that great. But, yeah, she's a mess. She's got she's taken this inhaler thing, this powder crap for her lungs because she can't breathe. She's got COPD. She has congestive heart failure. She's she's walking around with that kind of medicine. All it's doing is killing her slowly. She just doesn't see it.
And if I bring it up to her, she's like, I don't wanna hear it. The doctors are really good to me. I'm like, alrighty then. You do you, boo. I I I don't know what to tell you.
[02:53:50] Unknown:
Did you just hit Is that another sign of Paul?
[02:53:55] Unknown:
Pardon me?
[02:53:57] Unknown:
I was asking Paul if he just hit on his inhaler.
[02:54:05] Unknown:
I just yeah. It's just mind boggling to me. Like, how some people it's like you're talking to an alien about anything. Like, about the the court systems, the the money system. They look at you like, No. They would never do that. The government our government loves us. Mhmm. I'm just like, really? Do you not look around? They love us. Understand how people lunch. Lots of people don't see this.
[02:54:39] Unknown:
The government loves us for lunch, but only May I have to age three?
[02:54:47] Unknown:
I haven't read 1984.
[02:54:53] Unknown:
They would take it to action. Programming has worked very well like
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Casey Critter was saying. It's CIA piece of crap.
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Kobe. Kobe. What was it, Casey?
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I have no idea. How about Anyway, guys is very well. Hold it, Paul. Full.
[02:55:14] Unknown:
Single file, do not talk, and walk down the hall. Do not ask any questions. It's just so funny as we look back and see how we were indoctrinated and trained not to act, not to to look for anything other than what we were told. Yep.
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So Okay, guys. Stern tuition. What
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what sketch? I wanted I wanted to thank you very much for playing that short video. And was, the AI the only thing you talked to last night about fiction of law?
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Yeah.
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Did you talk to me? For you. Oh, okay. Thank you. Bye bye.
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Okay.
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No. I know. It it was your it was your suggestion. It was your idea. Okay. Credit given. Anyway okay, guys. That's about it for the Radio Ranch with Rogers sales, the Wednesday edition for September 24, is it?
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It? Oh. God.
[02:56:38] Unknown:
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[02:57:37] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Oh, Alvin. Alvin. Alvin. If you're still alive, you'd just be beside yourself. Anyway, we're trying to make up the ground there for you, buddy, and see if we can change it a little bit. You're long gone in the grave rolling in it. No doubt at current events. Good morning to you on the Wednesday edition. It's the September 24. That's, you look at the calendar. October's one week away from today, folks. Roger Sales, your host at the Radio Ranch. The reason I say that, of course, is because October is the devil's month, and there's just historical chicanery galore that happens in October. Paul, would you come forward, please, and let's get all the folks, credited that, help us extend our message of freedom all over the globe.
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Oh, yes. I can do that. Good morning. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. And we're on Global Voice Radio Network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is, thematrixdocs.com, and you can use that website to grab the free conference call links and actually join us live on the show. All are welcome. Come on. Come all. We're also on one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, go live TV, and streamlife.tube. They, grab our signal and spray it.
Part of the NET family of broadcast services. Morning, Raj.
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Morning, Paul. Chicago is what we used to call it. Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. One week away from October, folks. I mean, you know, we've been talking about this financial thing. It's gonna be the biggest in the history of the planet because there's never been a bubble this big. And, to pop as they say. And, it's not gonna happen like two minutes ago and then everything's destitute. It's a big, huge oh, god, whatever it is that they've built here. You know, the old, we've talked about this before, I think, Paul, but the proper analogy here is to an oil tanker.
And, those things are like 600 yeah. Well, 600 yards long, you know, full of oil, and they're out on the one of the major, bodies of water, and they go to make a turn. Well, they don't turn that thing on a dime. K? It it they have to start a mile before the turn to start the turn because there's so much weight inertia and all that stuff there. And it's kinda a good analogy for what we're at here with this economy. It's so laden with leaven. And, those of you who, you know, if you're new, the all these you can trace all these things straight back to the Bible every time. K? No exception that I found. And, what we're dealing with now is what Christ called the leaven of the Pharisees.
Leaven of the Pharisees. Probably some of you have heard that before, may not have had it applied. But, these guys, I'm gonna give you the example. Of course, leaven is yeast, makes bread rise. You know, I can honestly Paul, I remember my grandmother in a little old my house my mama grew up in and, don't run through the kitchen, you know, when she's baking and stuff because it makes that bread fall. And that's yeast. And so leaven is yeast. And so what they've done when they pulled the string on this on 03/09/1933, evidently in the bond market. So what they did was they took the bonds from the old United States Of America obligation, obligor obligee, and, they flipped it. And now the whole thing was done on the federal United States with you as the collateral for the paper money. And, that was on 03/09/1933.
So that's how long these people have been in control, and they've leavened up just on books, on budget. They've leavened up $37,000,000,000,000 worth of debt. Mhmm. That's the leaven of the Pharisees from zero. It started at zero in '33. They had to cash all the other ones out, bring out the new ones. It's what they'd been saving birth certificates for for twelve years, thirteen years. You know, the birth certificate federal act was done in 1921, I believe. And, so they had, what, twelve years of, birth certificates piled up there. The people that went ahead and had them done, and those were, you know, you know, of course, with other things too, the collateral for the new paper.
And so that's when this thing starts, '33, and they have leavened up. Now this is just on budget debt, Paul. 37,000,000,000,000. Now we we hear these numbers thrown around, and it's hard to get your arms around the size of this because we can't imagine those numbers. Alright? But I'm gonna tell you a way that you can at least somewhat get your arms around them, And that is to convert dollars to seconds because everybody can relate to time. K? And so $1,000,000 is eleven and a half. You converted it to seconds, is eleven and a half days.
That's a million. A billion is like thirty three and a half years, and a trillion is, like, three hundred and thirty years. So that's just 1,000,000,000,000. A a million and then a billion is a million a bill a billion is a million million. And then a trillion is a million billion. So we're talking about numbers that you we cannot fathom. Okay? But they can fathom them because they don't turn them into seconds. They turn them into dollars. Hold on, Boris. They turn them into dollars, and then they make money on thin air out of thin air there. Compounding interest, compounding on other interest that's been created out of thin air. That's where they make money out of thin air is in the compounding interest deal. But, boy, they got a lot of that going on. And that's just the on budget numbers. The off budget numbers, they say goes up to 200,000,000,000,000 in Social Security and all the other things. So, folks, we are and that is a all done on debt because the that that this that amount of debt's gotta be serviced. So when they can't service the debt, it locks up. They gotta refinance it or or get it serviced somehow or it locks up. And then that's what we're going into is a credit freeze.
Bori, what do you have, buddy? Bori?
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Bori, I good morning, Bori. Bori. Bori, I think the $1,000,000,000,000 every second for $1 every second is thirty two thousand years.
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But it's a whole bunch of time. Okay? It's just a whole bunch of time. Yeah. So that you may you may be right. Okay? But we can't imagine the amount of this wealth that's been floating around out there. Okay? And, that's what's go up against the wall, and October may be the month. I bring that up because traditionally, of course, it is the month, October 1929. Of course, everybody knows, etcetera etcetera. Excuse me. But, anyway, that's where we are right there. And, and we're right about just to just so it coincides real good. We're right about to start a civil war, it appears too.
So,
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a financial crash Oh, man. I'm
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gonna get you in a second, Tom. Hold on. All these things are shaping up for, well, not a good experience, especially if you're not prepared. Tom, illuminate us. Would you please? I know you're a student of this.
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Well, hold on one second. Let me get off this. Well, we got another nut job running around shooting people this morning. In Dallas. They yeah. They asked some guy. Now there's two detain they shot two detainees. So, they're shooting at a unmarked van shooting at an unmarked van, ice van up in Dallas. Some guy on the roof shot through a van, killed a couple of, detainees, injured somebody else, and then decided to kill himself. I wish they'd done that before he shot somebody, but, you know, what the hell you're gonna do? Well, that that's that's the period we're going into. Civil war.
[00:10:56] Unknown:
It's evidenced by all these things. So there's another one. I I heard that this morning on Brianna, earlier. I would probably would have forgotten to mention it. So thanks for bringing it up, Tom. But these are all in Yeah. This is war we're going into, folks. And I'm telling you, this is serious serious c r a p. Okay? That's a You're a All of you all of you shouldn't even ever go out without hopefully, you got something you can carry with you without looking around and being totally aware of your surroundings and not like that little blonde, cute cute little she was like looked like a young Marilyn Monroe, that girl to me. She was so pretty, and she was a Ukraine gal over here to escape the Ukraine war. And she gets stabbed because she walks on a train. She doesn't look around. She's on her phone. She sits down right in front of the guy that murders her. And and come to find out, Tom, above all else, she's got she's a big support. She's a lefty in her age, which I can understand. And in her apartment, I think she lived with her parents or family or somebody, in her apartment were, Black Lives Matter signs.
So she leaned towards that, and that's the guy that murdered her. But she walked on not paying attention, pay attention where you are. Yesterday on the after show, we heard, our old buddy Bob, Bob Morgan here, who's been around here. Well, since old Blue was a pup, he's been around, okay, many years and knows all this stuff very well. And, got in a situation, him and his daughter, and they got pulled over in an adjacent county. He had not noticed them. She didn't have any kind of driver driving, a, thing to permission. And so he ended up using his driver's license, all this mess, because he didn't use the car they don't use often, and the license tag light was out. That's what caused everything.
The light on the license tag was out, all of this stuff. We don't know how it's gonna turn out for him. Hopefully, it'll be very minor. But I've told you, you know, be be responsible. You're the ones that wanna be free. Freedom, I'm sorry, contains responsibility, personal responsibility. And if you wanna be free, you gotta take the responsibility with it. You can't take one without the other. Okay? And that in involves doing something like occasionally. I know it's out of your routine and habit, but go turn on your car and go back and see if the lights are on in the back. See if there's any potential problems they can pull you off. I've told you all that before. Be conscious of the speed limit stuff. And then you're totally certain to avoid all that crap.
K? Well, I'll maybe some for your circumstances. Gotcha. Now who was trying to say something just to say? Now that is Larry. Yes, sir, Larry.
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Yeah. I think, students should get in the habit of doing what's known as a pre trip to their to their car or truck or whatever they drive. So we're required to do that every morning before we get into our equipment. We have to check out the tractor, the trailer. We gotta make sure the lug nuts are tight. We gotta make sure there's no flats. We gotta make sure all the lights work. And you're only allowed, two lights to be out on on your tractor and trailer. And if there's more than two lights out and you get stopped by a state police trooper or whatever, they actually could, keep you there, and then you'll have to get the, entire vehicle towed by one of these really large tow trucks.
So it might be a good idea for people just to get in the habit of walking around their vehicle and making sure all their flashers and everything are working. Probably only take five minutes. They're probably And that can avoid a lot of problems.
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Okay. And it could potentially avoid an awful lot of whatevers. So these are the things that come along with this, what what we talk about here so regularly, which is your freedom. Well, there's certain elements of your freedom that, you know, you've never had to be that conscientious about before. And now if you wanna make these changes, this is where I say, the world ain't gonna change. They're still gonna pull you over if the light's out, etcetera, etcetera. You've got to be the change. And little things like this that you gotta be conscious of that you never had to be conscious of before, and that's freedom. And sorry, but that's what it is. So that's what you want. You want to get away from the federal government goon, slave, and bastards.
And these are some of the things that come with freedom. I can't help it. You know? I mean, it's just like Thomas Jefferson said, those expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be.
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Still the same day.
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Yes. So I got Paul and Tom at the same time. Now I'm really torn.
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Good. Good. Good.
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Paul? Mine is quick. Mine is quick. If you're alone and traveling and, you checked all your lights, cannot check your brake lights when you're alone. Just back into a parking space, like, at a convenience store or something Yeah. And look at the reflection of your lights in the window.
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Right. Just hit the brake and see how it does.
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And the third light in the back window, that's important. If you got three brake lights, make sure all three of them are working because a cop will zero in on you if one of them fails.
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Do you know how nice it is not to have a car anymore? Not to have to have one? I mean, it's just, like, liberating, man. Really. Oy. So, anyways, that's how I started the show out. Tom, what did you do what now, Paul? What did you ask? I guess oh.
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That was that was all I had. Go ahead, Tom. Okay. Well, thank you, sir. I'll always say Another another another trick another trick that I see all the time is people with their turn signals not working. If you turn on your turn signal to make a lane change or whatever and you see your little indicator on your dash, the blink goes blink, blink, blink when you turn signals on. If you see that going blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, real rapid, that means one of your blinker light bulbs is out. So either the front or the rear, and most times it's the rear because people are making change in lanes, they think they got their turn signal on, they see the light flashing on the dashboard, but when it flashes rapidly, it means you got a bulb out. So, stop the and if your dash and if your dash lights go out, your brake lights are out too.
So that's another way they wire or they wire the car so that you know there's something wrong. If your dash lights go out, your brake lights are out with it on the same circuit.
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Okay. Cool. In the old days, like 57 Chevy days and stuff, some of you are old enough to remember that. You you could stick your arm out. If you're making a turn, you just stick it out straight, and it's left. And if it's crooked up, it's right. So even though your lights might be out, you could still signal a turn. K? That's not a change in lanes. That's a turn. But, anyway, that's old. That's old stuff like us, Tom. That's old. So,
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we can still do that.
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Well, just be responsible. That's what I you know, I'm I'm gonna try to instruct you on being free. I gotta instruct you on all of the peripheral things that surround it. These are things that I've come to learn and understand over the years of doing this. People's experiences or thoughts come to you as to what situation might be. So, anyway, that's the way I wanna start out the show this morning. So the show is for if you're new. It's for you. If people want to, unen unenslave themselves from the, international monetary powers that have enslaved us so skillfully.
It's easy to get out of. It's nonthreatening. It's not expensive. You don't have to go to court. You don't have to hire a lawyer. You don't have to do any of that stuff. All you have to do is write down a little little bit of information on paper. And, best thing, go get it notarized, and then you can start sending that to Marco Rubio and company up there. And, you're out of this shooting match, and that's exactly how easy it is. And, just if you're new and you're scared, because I understand that's part of the deal, we've never had one to me reported to me.
There's never been one incident of any blowback on anybody from the federal government in fifteen years. K? That includes the big bad individuals representing Satan also. So that's where you are. And, if that's what you desire, we're here for you. I got up. I do it every morning and have some coffee and get up on the world just a little bit so I can come on this show and say, is there any new students that have questions that we can help you understand this or other questions? And, most of the time, my analogy here is dropping a rock down a well. Most of the time, the rock doesn't hit the bottom, but sometimes it does. We've had some new folks on lately. By the way, is Mary on today? Did Todd get out of the hospital yesterday yesterday or out of, therapy?
Do we know? Yeah. Todd, are you there, buddy? Okay. Well, it doesn't sound like he is. I was hoping to get some good news there. So where else can we go this morning? Somebody got something they wanna bring up? Oh, come on. I know you I know you wanna ask. Come on. All you have to do is hit star six. You'll unmute yourself, and you can say, hi, Roger.
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Good morning, Roger. Can I say morning, Roger? There you go. There's George, isn't it? Yes, sir. Good voice recognition.
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Well, I'm fine. It's taken me a while it was taken me a while to get yours. Yours. But, anyway, I got it now, I think. How are you doing, George? Yep. I'm doing well. Doing well. Enjoying the, beautiful fall now weather that we have. Oh, it's such a beautiful time of the year. My favorite always.
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Definitely. New England, it was, and and, here in Idaho, it is. I actually met a fellow from Austria who is, Salzburg, and he was saying I said, how do you like it here? He says, you know, it's just like home. It's hot in the summers and cold in the winters and asking about the hiking, if he's done the hiking here. So he, I said, what brought you to Idaho? He said, tennis. He's playing men's tennis team varsity team here for the university.
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The Okay.
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Yeah. The, the subject I wanted to, you know, talk talk about the piece of paper. I I heard a statement the other day, and and I I I think I've come to believe it's true. The court is the paper is the court.
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And I thought that was a powerful statement. I'd say that well, I'd say that's true. Remember, in the old days, years ago, decades ago, they had a big popular TV program on called the paper chase. I think it was a movie that although turned into a TV, serial. You remember that? Well, that was about law school, The Paper Chase.
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Okay. I remember the show, but I or the title. I didn't remember what it was about. I don't think I watched it, but makes sense. Yeah. I sent Paul Do you know, George? I'm interested. Lawyers
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lawyers hate what they do for a living more than any other profession.
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That makes sense. Interesting.
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Yes. It does. But you have to kinda
[00:22:51] Unknown:
you kinda have to lie for, or you're doing things for fictions, you know, all day long. So you're you're an you're really an actor in a lot of ways. Right? So Yeah. But, Paul, I sent you a piece of paper that affidavit of the high court of heaven. I thought that was that that what really made me Right. Besides what, you know, obviously, the affidavit does. But,
[00:23:11] Unknown:
I don't know if you received that by email, but I just wanna confirm that you got that. So What was the title of it? The high the the the or something of heaven? The high cost of heaven? What was it?
[00:23:22] Unknown:
No. It's a it's a declaration and, the exact title I just gave some but jurisdiction and declaration regarding kinda whose jurisdiction you're you're within.
[00:23:34] Unknown:
Well, that's very interesting because we spent almost two hours yesterday on the word person. I thought you were there. And, it's just very interesting for somebody who was saying in the after show that a a national is not a person. Well, of course, it's a person. You receive rights and duties except this time is from God, not the federal government. And, you know, it hit me. Here's here's the story behind that, George. I was in in Argentina. The book had just come out, so it was a number of years ago. And, I was gonna fly up. Did do you know who, Doug Casey is?
George, you ever heard of Doug Casey? He's a pretty famous, international jet setting financier kinda guy. Independent, up a seat of his pants, made all of his own money, written a bunch of books. Rich, sharp guy. He's got pride. He lived in 25 countries and, a big polo player. He prefers Argentina to all of them because in in his words, the bureaucracy can't find his ass with both hands. It's pretty true. Okay. So, anyway, him and his buddy, do you ever remember a email called international living? Bill Bonner? No. Okay. Well, that's another pretty big outfit. And, Bonner and Casey worked together a lot, and they both had properties in Argentina. And, Casey had partnered up with the ex governor of the Salto province, which is up north close to Colombia, who evidently had made a ton of money smuggling cocaine across that border.
And, wasn't in politics anymore, and he partnered up with Doug Casey, and he had 5,000 acres. It may may have been hectares. Hectares, two and a half acres. So if it was 5,000 hectares, man, that's a bunch of bunch of land. Up in the northern part of the country there in a little, little bitty town called Cafiete and a beautiful place, had his own golf course, international gym, and all that kind of stuff. Well, twice a year, he had open houses so they could sell this overpriced land. And if you bought the overpriced land, you could get his overpriced construction company to build your house on it.
And so, they had twice a year an open house, and people from all over the world would congregate up there. So the book was just out. I was there's a bunch of financial people there, and I was gonna try and introduce them to the concepts that we've uncovered here with the how their their whole lives are built on the financial system. They don't even know how it's structured or where it comes from. And so I was trying to yeah. Yeah. Hello? Yes, sir?
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Something about,
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the conversation yesterday and the word person is can I bring that back up for you? Yes. But, Alan, would you please be courteous enough to let me finish what I'm saying first? Yeah. Yeah. Is that okay? Mhmm. Okay? Yeah. Because I'm trying to make a point here. I understand. Go ahead. Okay. So I was flying up there, used to, previously to that, where I was, close to the Andes. You'd have to fly all the way to Buenos Aires and then take another flight up to Salta. But they just put a new route in where it came through where I was and went up to Salta. So I hopped on the plane and you get on the plane, if some of you have done this, especially internationally, and they give you a piece of paper with all these questions.
And one of them is where's your residency? And that's how I started thinking about all this, George. I'm sitting there on a plane going up to Salt Lake, and I'm going, well, that's a good question. I'm not a resident anywhere. So where is my residency? This also goes to Alan's question, I think, may be everybody's comment or the discussion yesterday. Because if you're a person and you're an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties, then when you move over as a national, your residency's heaven. You're you you you're not a resident of the state anymore because that ties you into the fourteenth amendment.
So you're a state citizen, but your residency is heaven because that's where you get your rights and whom you owe your duties. So isn't that interesting? K? So let me finish up with George. Allen, I'll address you. So but, anyway, a long story, but that's how I came up with this. And the logic is is your your residency is where you get your rights and discharge your duties. And if, if you don't have any residency here, which locks you into a country's laws, then your residency is heaven, which means you're under the constitution and god given laws and constitutional protections.
So there's a little deep thinking into that whole concept and how I stumbled on it, George. K?
[00:28:32] Unknown:
Well put. Thank you.
[00:28:34] Unknown:
You're welcome. Now, Alan, what did you have, buddy?
[00:28:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I I had a bit of an epiphany, and, you may remember Those are like,
[00:28:46] Unknown:
very those are very painful, aren't they? Sometimes
[00:28:49] Unknown:
they are. But do you remember Carl Lentz came in here?
[00:28:54] Unknown:
Well, I remember somebody bringing up his name. I don't know that he came in here. Okay. Well, there's one of the things that he did cover,
[00:29:01] Unknown:
and he covers things where the law has changed the definition of something, and the word person has been changed so many times. However, the original legal meaning of it is persona. And he, literally asked the what do you mean? You want me here in person? What do you mean? What persona would you like me to be here going back to the original terminology? And it literally when they change these, terminologies, it's like walking off a cliff. There's nothing
[00:29:32] Unknown:
there to support it when it's being used the way that they're using it under the fourteenth amendment. Well, do you know another way do you know another way that it's stated in the constitution that is just as identifiable? What's that? You're supposed to be able to know the nature and the cause of the accusation. The nature is the body of law that's being brought against you in the law, and the person would relate to the body of law if it had jurisdiction on you. So it's another way to say the same thing. Exactly. And that's the reason why they had to change the meaning and the definition of persona.
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But the question is, what persona would you like me to show up? Would you like me to show up as a click? Would you like to show, you know, me to show up as, maybe a Star Trek fan? What kind of persona would you like me to be here? Okay. And, that's where this thing walks right off the cliff because when when once we look at the original terminology, we choose what persona we present. What do you Everything
[00:30:35] Unknown:
everything's our choice.
[00:30:37] Unknown:
Yes. And and that's what it goes back to. So there's two two prongs here I wanted to bring up. One is it's actually a persona, and what persona would you like me to be here in? And whose choice is that persona combines into a natural defense against being called a person.
[00:30:56] Unknown:
Okay. What do you no. No. I don't I don't care if they call me a person. I don't give a shit about them changing anything. I care about the original, Alan. And the point that they recognize it is the fact we've never had an affidavit rejected. K? Well Now what you're talking about here is called legal personality. Okay? And it's like the thespians where you have the mask with a frown and a smile, and all they do is change masks. When you make a choice to live under another set of laws, you're changing your legal personality. That's what's going on.
It's got to be your choice, and they've got to recognize it if it's legitimate.
[00:31:33] Unknown:
The other, piece of me I had is something I've been struggling with for the last three years. The idea that the lawyer is the most dissatisfied job in the world was very discouraging to me, but, nonetheless, it's something I have been fighting with. And one of the reasons why it is painful is because you do realize these things as they are presented as you learn the legal terminology. And there is so many pitfalls and so many, walking off the cliff things that they've created that,
[00:32:09] Unknown:
it it's it's a downer. It really is. Well, they've had they've been working on this for for centuries, k, on setting this thing up. I'm totally convinced of that. Because for one thing, it goes back to 1666, all these opposites and sabotage me. So it goes back a long ways, and they have been studiously studying us to learn us like, Freud would would have somebody on the couch that he knew real well. So they know us like the back of their hands, and we don't even have any idea who they are. That's part of what we do here is expose them. Thank you. Yeah. You're welcome, Alan.
Who else has got some kind of commentary this morning? Freud. That was a long show yesterday on a person. It's very important. It's extremely important in a number of different ways. Do what, Paul?
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Freud was a sicko. Tell me about school myself.
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Oh, no. He was. No question. All of them are. I mean, we go back and study these people, learn their history. All these people are just wackos. And it comes from this Talmudic infusion of these satanic Babylonian concepts. Can we their minds and then their their parents raise them in that environment, probably, buttress it by their own whatever else they tell them. Yeah. Was that you, Alan? Who's trying to say something right there? I was saying,
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can we agree with, Floyd that, cocaine is a miracle drug?
[00:33:49] Unknown:
Well, I don't know about that. I don't think so. It sure has screwed up a lot of lives and got a lot of people killed, I can tell you that. You You know, one of my friends in the record business, and I was back in the record business in the seventies, folks. That's when this stuff was wide open. Okay? And one of my buddies, the capital guy, and he goes, I don't know why anybody would spend that much money to feel that bad. Ain't that the truth? Oh, it's great for a little while, but then you tail off the back end, and it ain't fun at all. K? So thank goodness. Thank goodness. I'm a long way away from that.
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Hey, Roger?
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There's Nancy again. Yes, ma'am. The one that brought up this whole thing on person yesterday. She's responsible.
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I I understand. I I can I admit I'm guilty? I was doing some follow-up to the conversation. And I FYI, I I, Julie sent me, a link to the Kevin Hoyt interview with you, and I watched it last night. And it's excellent.
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Oh, good. And
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and I'll I'll be glad to drop a link to that in the chat in a minute. But, because, I'm I'm following up on so that for me, it was I'm I'm very clear about the legal concept behind person at least as
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you teach, you know, and then Well, it's not difficult. It's real easy. I mean, it's real easy. You just have to have it explained to you in as as simply as possible. But once you get that and you spend your time and your brain cells synapses firing and stuff and you get your arms around that, they can never fool you again. Is that enough incentive for you to study it?
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Oh, yeah. Well and so and as you know, what I was looking at, I mean, the the interview, one of the things that, I guess not a point of contention for me, but that I was bringing up from the previous afternoon is about the fourteenth amendment and the use of the the person, the all persons born. Yeah. And,
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because Well, you know what? Nancy, I'm let me interrupt you just a second if I may. You go to the newer Black's Law dictionaries and look under person. Have you done that?
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I've looked under, the cut I went to Joe's website and Joe Lustica's, and I saw,
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watched his video on that. So he has a quote from Black's four Black's Law four fourth edition, I think. Okay. Well, that's why I wasn't asking about the older ones. I was asking about the newer ones. The newer ones Yeah. This this term has sir has has great significance because of its usage in the fourteenth amendment.
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Oh, crap. Okay.
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Well, so the the piece that the aspect to this this is that what I was hearing seemed to be, not what I have heard you say. And that's why I wanted to watch that video. It's not about so when you bring up the legal concept of behind person, you are also, comparing it to what we call patriot mythology that, you know, a person is a corporation. Right? So that's a separate thing from the fourteenth amendment. But what had been being said was, you know, and that we're the natural person. You know, we're the natural entity. The the the individual. Individual. Right. In whom the rights and duties reside in the same entity as opposed to an artificial, person, entity, corporation, trust. Yeah. Yeah. Or partnership, association.
So in, so I was asserting that the the person all the all persons that use the word in the fourteenth amendment, I I believe, and the born and, naturalized refer to a natural, entity, a natural person and individual. So there was some assertions that it was an artificial person. So that was what my
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I think it applies to both.
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And you differentiate
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oh, please, please, please. I think it applies to both, and then you dictate by seeing if you volunteer to sub to be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That separates the two. That that's what I think. Go ahead.
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Okay. So okay. So this is when, you know, it's in the weeds and the granularity of the so Oh, man. We're off we're we're off we're off splitting frog hairs right now. Go on. Right. Well, no. It's in a sense, it's the essence of what you teach, Roger, because it's the feudal system, not Mhmm. The straw man. It's not the art you know, it's not the the name of the as a straw man. I know. There is no such thing as a straw man. You're a slave. Name. Right. Yes. That's what I'm pointing to. That's what you assert. And that's I believe that. So it's, and then we can that's the jurisdiction that the person is a serf status legal, legal person. Their legal identity is a is a serf.
Right? So and we can we can as we can change that by our choice by volunteering out. So Yeah. But so what I was so what I was in the question of, if someone's assert and I'm hearing you say something about the artificial person. So but I I don't desperation.
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Nancy, you're making a whole bunch out of something. I'm trying to get what your confusion is. Go ahead.
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Well, the assertion that I'm hearing, not from you specifically, but that person is an artificial it's is, not a natural person. It's an artificial. It's a corporation. Okay. I think that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying it's wrong because they think they're both.
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They get their both. They get their rights under the fourteenth amendment as corporation. They owe their duties to the to the federal government. That's why I bring up the executive
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or the individual. As a SURF.
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As a SURF. I bring up I bring up the example that I used yesterday to you where they've got individual in that schedule at at in the IRS. The reason they use individual and not person is because corporations being a person could be confused with individuals who this first part of the IRS code is for individuals, not corporations. They have their own tax schedule.
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K. So may I just share what I what I looked at last night? Okay. Alright. Whatever. Okay. Because I've the definition in Black's law, which is very simple that that Joe Lustica, it says it has been held that when the word person is used in a legislative act, natural persons will be intended unless something appear something appear in the context to show that it applies to artificial persons.
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And then after, it gives a sight Which is the example I just gave you with the tax code. Alright. I just gave you that example, perp. Yes. I understand.
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Yes. Okay. But as a rule, corporations will be considered persons within the statutes within the statutes unless the intention of the legislature is manifestly to exclude exclude them. So it has to be explicitly excluded. So Correct. Now looking at the fourteenth amendment, so this is how I'm thinking. I'm just gonna share with with you my valid my analysis process. Okay? Because born and naturalized to me indicate a natural person. Not and so I'm just saying that's what I think. You could disagree with me. So I look back in the rest of the constitution, the beginning part of the constitution.
Because within the context of the constitution so it is clear the way the word person is used is In the the actual person. In those Before that. And when they talk about an
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Alright. Sorry. I'll quit interrupting. Go on.
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They use the terms instituted, established, and form when they're talking about states and government, which are artificial persons. So I'm just merely look telling you that why I think that the term it may have as we know with through, equivocation, that there can be multi layered meanings of words. But I don't think you can say the the birth of the nation. Well, it wasn't a big vagina that our country came out of. It came it was people got men got together, and they formed and established these artificial constructs, agreements through agreement and contract.
So I'm going to you know you know, you may disagree with me, and I'm open to, further evidence. That's what I'm looking for. It's evidence, not just beliefs. And I recognize we're in CFR 26 CFR where it uses the word individual, and that's a natural person as opposed to a corporation. I get that, Roger. But so anyway, I just I went through a process of, okay. This is the fourteenth amendment. What do the previous what is the the earlier part of the constitution? How does it frame this? How does it use? Because that's important. That has that's relevant.
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Operations back in those days, Nancy, had expiration dates.
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Right. There were In other words, the Erie Canal
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was built under a corporation, but it expired after twenty years. So they didn't have the same characteristics or they weren't applied back there in the same as after they passed the fourteenth amendment and then got what what they call corporate personhood done. Because there, the bad guys can control everything behind the scenes like they're doing right now, and their names don't ever pop out. BlackRock and Wildlife controlling sector of every corporation of this important in the world, which they've done, but they never show up anywhere. But they own the controlling amount of stock. They have corporations in mind, I think, it's my personal opinion, because they defer, the the the themselves in any responsibility to the corporation.
And they can own all these things hidden. That's what I think came it changed evidently along that. I'm not an expert on this. I just teach you what John taught me and the simplicity of it. And, and so you people I say you wanna go further. Nancy wants to go further in the weeds on this, and that's where we are.
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Well, the reason I've been inspired to do so is because people are asserting that the person in the fourteenth amendment,
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all persons born, is actually a corporation. And you teach no And I told you that's not right because you're a fourteenth I know. It's not right. Citizen and and agreed to it, y'all, every time they ask you. So this is a result. All the all yesterday and all this today is a result of somebody's misidentification and misunderstanding on the word person and the fourteenth amendment and how it's used.
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Yes. And I was just using it as a Okay.
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They say it would freed all the slaves of the thirteenth amendment. Well, that those weren't corporations. They were black Negro slaves. So whoever made that comment that started all this but you you understand my frustration with Patriot Mythology, Nancy?
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I don't have any confusion about this matter,
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Roger. Well, no. But somebody does. I was using Somebody does. That's why I was
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and that's why I was bringing it up. And I'm also using it as an opportunity to further and deepen my understanding. And I'm sharing that. Everyone here Well, that's cool. Do what they yeah. Yeah. So that's the the purpose. Cool. So I'm just sharing what I did to put it Okay. So somebody makes a dumbass statement.
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Excuse me, Nancy. Somebody makes a dumbass statement in the after show that the word person only applies to corporations in the fourteenth amendment. That's not what they didn't say that, Roger.
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Okay. You know what? It's this is a useful discussion until it's not.
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You know? So I think he was misunderstanding, and there's plenty it seems like there's a lot of misunderstanding going on. Yeah. I sure is. Well, that's easy. They've set it up that way, but I try and straighten that out. So I'm something like this comes up, it frustrates me because, obviously, whoever said that, I haven't straightened it out with them, have I?
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Well, there's always new people, Roger, and it's always gonna be an opportunity to provide greater clarity. So I've had a greater deepening about this. I've looked back in the constitution just to understand and look with a new eyes because of the training that I've received from you Yeah. In being examining. So I deeply appreciate that from you. Yep. So I'm carrying it forward.
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Okay. Comment?
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Please comment.
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Yeah. I've got parts of this, Nancy, over the past couple of days. And this is old news. No. It it may have even been brought up before because I've been in and out. This is Bob. But it's and maybe you have this understanding. I don't know. But for new students who've never considered this, the word incorporation, corpus is body. When the state department of a particular state incorporates a company or corporation, they are giving it a body. Right. It's metaphorical, of course. Obviously, the body is not something huge tangible, but it, it would be like what you said about, you know, the nation was birthed. Well, obviously, as you said, it didn't come out of a woman's, body.
It came out of the actions and intent of dozens, hundreds, thousands of individuals who got together and made it happen. So at any rate, just the idea that incorporation is to give a body to something important. And and I'm not saying you don't know that. I'm just bringing it out because as you just said, there are always new students. And, I've just been kinda marveling because I heard you say yesterday that in all the time you've been listening, what now, eighteen months, year and a half Three years. Two years. Yeah. Three years. That you had never heard Roger say anything about a company being a person or corporation. Not what that's not what I said. Okay. Well, sorry. There's a lot of misunderstanding. That's what I thought I heard you say, at any rate.
Yeah. Obviously, there's a lot of confusion. He says that all the time, and I can't see how anybody could come away and not not understanding that having listened at at, you know, for any length of time. But anyway That's yeah. Well, I appreciate that. I'm happy to move on, but I've got I've gained I've gained greater clarity myself.
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And, the issue was not about person, being a corporation. It was, as you teach, Roger, it's not just a corporation. And in specific, the fourteenth amendment and I agree with you actually. I think it was just like the civil war. I think it was obviously the next one of the next steps in, laying this groundwork for capturing us us all through and purse the personhood, the legal concept goes back thousands of years. So the framers knew about it. But the distinction, which is one of the things that you teach us, and equivocation that, is a distinction that I'm looking at. So around in the fourteenth amendment. Because I heard someone say they're they're using it, they're saying it's the artificial person, not the natural. But anyway, that's alright. I'm grateful for the opportunity to gain gain greater clarity for myself and Uh-huh. Are you?
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Comment, man. Why I try to straighten all that out is because that is patriot mythology that a person is a corporate fiction. Every investigator, researcher I've ever asked in over thirty years has that same answer. It's a corporate fiction, but that's not right. It's not wrong. Yes. It can be, but not exclusively. That's the point I'm trying to make. And Nancy chose to just a second, please, Sherry. Can I finish? Yes. Nancy chose to dive deeper into this and investigate it further. And, it's as you can tell, it's very confusing. Very simply, everybody's a person of some type because everybody has a lawgiver, don't they?
Okay. Any dissension from the audience? Everybody's a person. Can we come to that conclusion? Yes. And if we can, then I think we've settled Nancy's questions. Okay. Several people, Sherry, Julie,
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Joe's, couple people wanna chime in. I'm gonna go with Sherry. Sherry, come forward. Well, I appreciate Bob bringing that forward. And just to further what you just said, he who creates controls, and corpus is the pertinent word. But, somebody else had a comment on this subject, but I wanna change the subject.
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Person is the most dangerous word that enslaves mankind that nobody understands, but everybody uses. And my second, point is Noah Webster defines a person as a mask primarily used by an actor
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on stage. Thank you very much. That's just what I told you. And that's what John John Wayjohn explained this to us. You go back to Greece and the thespians and all that, they would use a mask, and they'd put a mask on with a smile if they were happy, and they'd put that down and put a frown on if they and that is you changing your legal personalities. What is your legal personality? That's from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties. It always goes back to this. Okay. Who else is wanting to say something? Thank you, Sketch. That's where the thespians came from. Yes. Hey, Roger.
Yes. There's Danny right there. Hey, Danny.
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Yeah. Well, I've, had something I've been thinking of for a while. I'd like to bring up the people that, how we always hear that, they put in front of us what they're gonna do to us before they do it. And so I'd like to talk a little bit about, symbols and protocols
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and some of the strange time. I'm gonna ask you to do is I'm gonna ask you to put go on the back burner because if we're gonna change subjects, Sherry was first. Okay? I'm not trying to be ugly. She said she wanted to change subjects and we barked at her, and you're wanting to change subject, we'll come back to you. Anybody else on the person subject? I have some trouble on Holy shit. On the person's subject. Birka, quick.
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Okay. So, you know, this word person was entered into the fourteenth amendment, and this is part of the entrapment of what they did at 2,000
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people.
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They knew this going ahead of time. These people are very skilled.
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So, Roger, what I was thinking while you and Nancy and Bob were talking, you know, this United States corporation is in oh, is an overlay over The United States Of America, the country. So now they brought in their misleading, deceptive, perverted wording to entrap people, the American people, with the word person and US citizen.
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And resident. Don't forget resident. And resident.
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Reside. Right. Exactly. So now if we think about it and, you know, how, what triggered this is Nancy saying artificial person. It is a special class citizen that United States Of America and District Of Columbia has brought in through congress. It's a special class citizen, which is still a fictional because it is legal and fraudulent and entrapping the American people. So person and US citizen are the overlays over what we now are learning
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is not true. I think all of you would agree that there was a great deal of thought and time spent into formulating this whole scheme.
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So I see it as an artificial, also, like a fictional because it is a fraud, and the people,
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have no idea. And they're consenting to it. What? A fraud corporation is and participate in murder. Hold on. What are you saying? The corporation is a fraud?
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It's, the corporation is not a fraud. It's legal, but it's not natural, and it's not lawful
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and under God.
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And and and does this make Daryl's statement from so many years ago quite accurate? It was the war to bring in the civil law?
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Right.
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Yeah. And then they get the civil law and the kudos under the tent, and now they can get corporate personhood and all these other things that go under this civil law thing?
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Right. And no one knows any better unless you really study.
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But I think So if you're new if you're new here, this is what I tell you is you can take any one of these topics and drill down in them possibly for hours as we've done here on person.
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The main thing is that we all need to be under natural law
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and not under If you if you want to, some people well, Marcus, some people don't wanna be. We don't all need to. Right. I understand. Want to need to. Okay? Right. Alright. There were several other people try hold on, Larry. When there are a couple other people wanting to jump in here?
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Yeah. I just wanted to say growing up in New Orleans, you get those thespian masks. Oh, yeah. Mardi Gras, but they're they're all over the
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Of course. Town. Of course. Yep. Alright. Who else? Somebody else had something to add? Alright. Sherry? Yes, I may. We're gonna, yeah. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. What which topic you wanna come in on?
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Roger.
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No. No. Hold on. Okay. I remembered it. Let's let's deal with the female first. Yes, ma'am?
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I'm called a woman. Yes, ma'am. In regards to who named them all? Who named you? Called them by name, and people started changing those names. So if we go back to the original creator and we lean on that understanding, then I think that we can resolve a lot of these issues because a lot of people, you know, call people names, and he was the ultimate one to call everyone by their name.
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That's what I'm that's what I'm trying to do is get you back over here and understanding that if you file an affidavit, you're still a person. K? That that that the the basis of almost all that discussion was that point right there. You're always a person. Everybody's a person because we all get our law from someone. K? Alright. Well, here's the law of time. The law of time has caught up with us here, Paul, and you know what the remedy is, don't you?
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Yep. See you soon. Bye. Get a new mayor up there, would you? Damn commie. Yeah. They're about to get invaded. Talk about martial law and admiralty law. They're about to get martial lawed up in Chicago. Because Trump is looks like he's gonna have to declare martial law to run troops in there, and he's gonna run troops in there. Neither one of the communist mayor or the, Jew bastard governor want it. So, confer another confrontation looming up there. And there's no telling what that might trigger, by the way. California passed some kind of a bastardized law. I think it's about to get signed by Newsom today.
I can't remember what it was, but it's heinous. Okay? So, alright, Sherry. You wanted did anybody else on the person deal?
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Yes. Larry.
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Larry. Sorry, buddy. I forgot you. Go ahead.
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Yeah. So just to clarify, do you and Nancy, both believe that the four that the fourteenth amendment's use of the word person includes both
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natural persons and artificial persons or just natural persons? No. No. The word legal the word person is always a legal person. It's always an entity to whom the law ascribes the rights and duties. It doesn't deviate. This goes back to the guy that founded the law in Rome. Okay? Yes. It applies to everybody's a person. It applies to everybody where the real thing is not are you born in the first clause, it's and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Because that's what locks you in no matter which one of those persons you are. Okay.
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Okay. And to answer your question, Larry, well, he asked
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it I know. Go ahead. Two. No. Go ahead, please. So
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I'm I lean towards it's focused on the natural person based on the rest of the constitution, but I see that it's also the Trojan horse for the corporate personhood. And so, anyway
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Yeah. He saw those Roger, when it says all persons born, that could apply to an, an artificial person that the secretary of state of a state Okay. Absolutely. Creates or quote Absolutely. Is born. Okay.
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Yep. K, Ross? Yep. Yep. I had a, rather lengthy, discussion with Chat GPT last night. I was I was drilling down into the fiction of law and the presumption of law. And, I got 29 pages of information because I asked it the question, how could a national stop a court from using a fiction of law or a presumption of law in a proceeding against them. And, what the first thing that Chatt GPT did was define the difference between fiction of law and presumption of law. A legal fiction, which I believe is applicable to what we've been talking about. This is a court that's a corporation. A legal fiction is when the court treats something as true for the sake of applying the law even if it's not factually true. There you go.
The example is a corporation is treated as a person in law.
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So I agree with that. Boils it down right there. That boils it down to the essence, Paul.
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Yes. Courts use fictions to simplify or extend rules, but they're not meant to override reality in ways that would deprive someone of justice. So it is a rebuttable presumption.
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You know where corporations arose, don't you?
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What?
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In Amsterdam. La Roone. After the Jews had been kicked, they many of them went up to Amsterdam. They started the the Dutch trading East India Trading Company. And with those ships that were incredibly expensive, you you you got limited liability. If one of them was lost at sea and you were the sole owner, you you were done. So they they diversified the liability, and that's corporations. It's just limited liability. You know? And I would I would remind you what George Gordon used to say. He said, I'm I'm a national. He didn't say that, but he basically said, if I harm you and can't make you whole, drill a hole in my ear, and I'll be your slave.
Okay? But it came out of Amsterdam. It came out of that time. Guess what else came out of there about the same time? The concept of central banking. Guess what else came out? Well, it's tied to the corporation is insurance. The whole idea of insurance came out of the same little nest. So a little bit of the origins of that. Yes. There's Rick. Hey, Rick.
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Yeah. The, Bank of Amsterdam was formed, I think, ninety two or ninety four years before the Bank of England. And Correct. The Dutch the Dutch were independent states, but they came together, for trade purposes, and they were the first international corporation.
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Yep. There you go. And they were huge. If you go back and take the assets at that time and the value of wealth and lay them overlay them on today, these corp, these Dutch East India, the other one, West India, they dwarf the biggest corporations in the world today in wealth in that day in a comparison head up. So who was wanting to say something? Thank you, Rick. Who else Yeah.
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Just one last thing. But legal personhood, while bestowed on human person at birth in the Western legal system as we know them, is itself a fiction precisely because it is creation.
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What now? What was that sketch at birth, assigning? Go for that again, please.
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Yeah. But legal personhood, comma, while bestowed on the human person at birth in the Western legal system as we know them is itself a fiction precisely because it is a creation, a construction of law without which we would merely be individuals or even unpersons in the Orwellian sense. I yield People. Wow.
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We're the people.
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Right. And and, of course, according to Brent, when you see the people in the founding documents, it doesn't mean all of us. It meant the militia. Yes. Samuel there.
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Yeah. This in the in definitions in the book of the hundreds, they roll person, human being, natural persons, and natural man all into one category, and the person under law here in their definition still doesn't cover the unborn child. So they look at all of these as non spiritual, non souled definitions. So I have dropped using persons altogether and use either man, woman, or child, and that's it.
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Well, makes it whole place before all this, life was deemed to, begin at conception. So even though the baby was in mama's womb, it was covered under that. With the fourteenth amendment, it's not. All persons born. You've got to be born before you get those rights and duties. In our system with an affidavit, the child in mother's womb is its own individual. It's just not brought into the world yet.
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They also have a short definition of persona. I'll I'll read that for you here. Latin, literally the mask of an actor in law. The persona is the function fictional person or entity created by government under military law by the process of novation. And novation is exactly how we pass real estate. We have copied Roman law.
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Okay.
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Well, new folks, again, if you're listening here, stumbled in, you're still with us, the reason that, I tell you, all this stuff is real deep is because we've spent an hour and two with the two Internet yesterday. We spent about three hours on this one question.
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K?
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So if you're new, that's why I simplify the things. If you get along the line and you wanna get into these types of thinkings and investigations, it's fine with me. K? But I teach you the very simple basics so that you can in internalize the information and get as much understanding as you can as quickly as possible. We don't have the time. Yes, Larry. Like we used to have. Yep.
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So you agree with Brent when he says that the people in, I believe, the Declaration of Independence is the militia? Yeah. Well, I think that's probably true. Yeah. Okay. What about the people like, virtually every state constitution starts out with we the people, like, for example, the state of California. I think it's the same thing. Do you believe that's the militia too in the state constitution? I
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do. If it follows Do you believe
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a people is a person?
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I think you have to be a state citizen to be in the militia.
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And, right, he doesn't believe in that. You do. You have to be regulated and everything else. So Mhmm.
[01:10:41] Unknown:
Roger, is a people a person?
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Larry, I don't know. It doesn't matter what I think. Okay? I I teach you the very best I can and the the most basic way I can. K? So is that okay? Is it my turn? Yeah. Yes. Sure. It's your turn, dear. Come on.
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At the risk of furthering this conversation, were the people actually called militia during the revolutionary war? And it's rhetorical.
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Don't wanna respond to that.
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I bought Okay.
[01:11:20] Unknown:
Sorry. I do wanna change the subject because I got some information yesterday from the USPS, regarding a postal rule. And I was sending something certified, and I asked about the postal rule that it is deemed received once it's placed in the mail certified. And I was told that that is an IRS rule.
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It only applies to them. Right?
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That's what I was told, and I'm just bringing it forward for anybody's thoughts in that regard, and I yield. Uh-uh.
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That's funny. How interesting, Anybody got any comments? Roger, were you on a new subject yet? I'm Danny. You were you're in the background. What did you want? Come on forward.
[01:12:22] Unknown:
Well, some things about, what why we're told that, you know, what they're fixing to do to us, they tell us ahead of time. Yes. Yes. And use of symbols and protocols to do that in part two. And, one of the thing I know some things you don't like about this, but it starts off with the the gold French flag and what it might mean. And I think it means the, the, by the commander in chief of the military. And one reason I say that is observations of whenever the president receives a foreign head of state, you don't see the gold fringe around. It's it's the just the regular American flag because I believe that it wouldn't be proper to receive a foreign head of state as the commander in chief of the military rather than the head of state. Another thing that's kinda related to that is some years ago when I was living in the Houston area, times when I was in the state court, they always had a gold French flag sitting up there.
But I noticed on some newscast when they were covering something like a murder trial that the gold French flag wasn't there then. So it's like they did a a murder case maybe under common law of some sort. I I mean, it's still in statutes, but common law. Something more recent, that, about the gold French flag is, you remember when Trump had his trip through the through the Mideast, and he had a stop off at, Qatar. And I saw some of the videos there, and there's this one where there's a in a room and had tables arranged around the outside walls where everybody could see inward to everybody else. And from the camera's point of view, his own president and some others were on the, that row of tables over there.
Qataris were on the side tables, and I guess it was some more Americans on the near table that the camera wasn't covering very well. But, what I thought was a little strange was that the US flag had the gold fringe. And another thing I thought was strange was, he was over there to do some kind of agreement. And, you know, usually, when I have something like that, it's like they're agreeing to do something like keep the the, waterways open for for shipping to go through. And they have an agreement or maybe they would call it a treaty or whatever it is, but they're kinda working together on something. Well, this is not what, Trump said while he was there. I had the gold French flag, like, for the head of the military, and he said that we will protect you.
That just seems very different from other kinds of things. Also, few years back while the queen was still alive and Trump had his visit over there, there was one place where, she was making him walk ahead of her. He was trying to walk beside her, and she was shooing him forward. And, so he did like he was told and walked out ahead. And then more recently, when he was over there and, visiting with the king, there was one place where the king was walking behind him and the, head guard of the palace. Or Trump and the guard had a conversation, and later on, the king was up even with him there.
So, you know, there's something to these, but I don't know what kind of changes it indicates is going on. But there's some strange stuff going on.
[01:16:41] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody in the audience got a comment on that? Nobody? Okay. I don't know, Danny. I've never put I've never, spent any time looking into it very much, really. Okay. I don't think it doesn't have anything to do on me filing an affidavit with those people. I understand your curiosity about the other. I think it has some kind of military connotation. Not sure where, but it doesn't affect me too much. So that's for me personally, that's kind of the way I look at it. But you like to dig into stuff like that. Yes, Samuel? You got something to say about it, don't you?
[01:17:22] Unknown:
Yeah. My guess would be it's a guess. It's Bloodline Protocols.
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Could be. Don't know. Don't don't have any answers for you, Danny. Sorry.
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Why was he even over there?
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Do what, Joan? Why was Trump even over there and they Well, he's been over there a number of different times for a number of different reasons. One of the things Danny was referred to as the queen, and she'd been dead a couple of years, if I remember correctly.
[01:17:59] Unknown:
Yeah. But he was there. Trump was there just, what, a week ago or still is or, I mean, a week ago. And and and Melania did not curtsy to the,
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I didn't see that. I don't I don't know. Okay.
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Thank you. Bye.
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Yeah. Yeah. Who else got something to add here? Dave does. Comment. Hold on, Raj. Dave. Hey, Roger. Yeah. Alright. There's somebody else. They got Dave, Tom, and somebody else. Dave first.
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So I've I've learned that that gold fringe flag is a war flag. So military, yep. I do believe that. That's why, anyway, you know, there's a that's in most courtrooms, and it's in every classroom and of every school in America. That war flag. And what what's the tenth plank of the communist manifesto public school funded by the people?
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I yield Yeah. They made us the enemy in the, 1933, so they're warring on you by indoctrinating with propaganda your children. And that may be signified. Danny, I don't know. I'm just taking a stab, buddy. Okay. It was, we got Dave. It was Tom next and then somebody else after that. Tom?
[01:19:23] Unknown:
You know, I guess the gold French flags are appropriate right now because it looks like, the guy that shot the got in shot yeah. I know. But I need even more now. This guy that shot into the ice vehicle, left bullets up there with, anti ice slogans on the bullets. So we got a Charlie Kirk, wannabe here.
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So Well, I'm just glad Trump has, declared the anti for the enemy as terrorist, and now they can go after them with extraordinary methods. Maybe we'll see some results, Tom.
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We'll see. Roger. Now who else? Yeah.
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There's another guy that was trying to say something a minute ago who I didn't recognize your voice. Who was it?
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Exgentile. That's what we do. Exgentile.
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Hello, X. What you got?
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Hey. You know, I just wanna explain to you what that United States flag means. They never told you what the red or the white or the blue or the French is staying for. But it's not something with the heaters, so I can tell you that one. Isn't it something that red represents the m and e in the sense of the world or not? Right.
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Isn't it a isn't it very a replica of the East India Trading Company's flag?
[01:20:38] Unknown:
I believe it's one of those sure that I know why they're using it here. Coming. Okay. Well, go and say you I can only explain why they're using it here right now. Alright. Do it. Yeah. That's red. The red represents the enmity and the sins of the world. The white represents the 144,000, and the blue represents the people that are being woken up by the 144,000. And the fringes are representation of the 144,000. And and and if you read Hitler's last statement, he'll tell you how The United States have stolen the chosen people, and World War three will be started from his grave.
That's right. And I just wanna comment on why Trump goes to visit the queen because if anybody that works in the District Of British Columbia I'm gonna call it what everybody or what the what the queen was afraid to call, and that's the District Of British Columbia because that's what it is, just like it is in Canada. They just were smart enough to take that out of there because they knew it would start a fight. But those people have been every time a president is selected, he goes and gets his orders from them. Period. End of story. I mean, they all do it. They've been doing it. And and he just gone over there, you know, showing his allegiance to them by showing up and getting his new orders for what is about to come. I mean, the the game has not changed. This has been going on ever since the District Of Columbia has burned our White House down and built it in the District Of Columbia because it used to be in Pennsylvania. And these people are pure demons. And I'm telling you, all the satanic stuff and everything that we've been trying to figure out is a is is coming to fruition.
We are at the end, and I'm telling you now the Hebrews are the closures in this game because Moses was Hebrew, not Jew. And those those Jew people, they're fake and imposters, and their days are numbered. I yield. Hallelujah. Thank you, Rogers. Hallelujah,
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Jex. Okay. Who else has got something to add? We're coming up to some sort of a real tipping point, folks. A real big one. Okay. Who else? Somebody? Julie, was that you talking about a minute ago? There's Sherry again. Can you not hear me? It's Sherry. I just said hello, Sherry.
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Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I was busy talking, trying to get your attention. I had to have conference call call me back because somehow, I got muted and couldn't unmute. It was weird. Anyway, about symbolism and the flag. In scripture, it's called a banner. Once you put it on a pole, it is therefore, transients, and that's what militarizes any banner. So I found that interesting. What are your thoughts about that, Roger?
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It's there for transience. Is that what you said? Your phone's a little funky there. When it's on a pole. When it's on a pole. Well, it's also called a standard. It's also referred to as a standard so that troops in battle see where their people are and could go to that spot and not go to the enemies. That's the reason the Confederate battle flag got had to be invented. I'm assuming you know that. I'll say it anyway because the flag of the South was so similar to the flag of the North that the soldiers were going to the wrong post. And they had put out an urgent plea for another flag. And down in Mobile, Alabama, a couple of, ladies sitting around sewing came up with the, Confederate battle flag. That's where it came from. The reason was so that the southern troops would know where to go.
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Oh, I do not agree with you, Roger. But the difference between hanging something on a railing or a fence is way different than putting it on a a pole or a standard pole standard. That is carried about in military.
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Okay. I agree with that. And they carry it about in the military, so they know who they are. And everybody else knows who they are, and they identify them through the flag.
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Absolutely. So my point is it is a big deal and it's a big distinction and symbolism is important. And so when you are flying a banner at home, it should not be on a pole because that signifies, enemy. Not enemy, but, that you're at war. Okay. So
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Well, the okay.
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Can the scripture say banners, which is your family flag or your ecclesiastical banner, should not be anyway, I yield, Roger. I'm babbling now. Thank you. I yield. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
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Yes. I think that's sketch again. Yes, sir. The almanac
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produces a book, I'm sure, but it's also on the web, US flag etiquette rules and guidelines with all the
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Oh, that's pretty cool.
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All the accoutrements, related to that. I guess Danny,
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the one you go get on the almanac online, and it's got a spot on there about the flag with a whole bunch of information on it, see if they identify and specify anything in there differently. K? That might be a good homework assignment for Danny or Sherry or any of you. Yes, Paul? You were grunting?
[01:26:10] Unknown:
It was it was interesting that when I was talking to chat GPT last night, it brought up a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about today, including the mailbox rule, because in a sample legal argument structure, rebutting a legal presumption, the defendant's motion to challenge application of presumption of law or fiction of law, the defendant respectively moves his court to decline application of the specific presumption or legal fiction on the grounds that its application in this proceeding would, a, exceed its intended scope, b, deprive defendant of due process, and c, result in manifest injustice contrary to established law. Now what presumption of law do you think this was talking about?
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No, Paul. I don't even have a guess.
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Statement of the presumption or fiction, identify exactly what the court or opposing party is relying on. And the example in this, reply is the state seeks to apply the presumption that all mail is received three days after
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posting. K. Well, that doesn't apply. Paul, are you gonna post that post that? I'm sorry, Roger. Yeah. Yeah. That's important. I think everybody wants to hear it. Are you Sure. Or read it. Okay.
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Just back off from your microphone just a little bit. You're also overmodulating.
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Go ahead, Paul. The big the big takeaway from it is that presumptions are generally rebuttable unless they're conclusive. A conclusive presumption would be like a child cannot enter into a contract before the age of majority. But many other presumptions are rebuttable. And all you have to do is, object to the presumption and provide case law or evidence where either the presumption is false or the presumption, if it stands, would lead to a deprivation of rights, a violation of due process, and a miscarriage of justice. All you gotta do is just just show your case sites, and you could you could shut down any presumption.
And if they don't buy it, you can always take it to appeal. So, anyways, that was a very interesting conversation with at GPT last night. Very interesting.
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Well, I gotta tell you, you know, I thank Al Attis for that because he's the first person that ever came up with that. I'd I may have heard it before that point, but he brought it up in one of these conversations and it hit me. And I've thought about it so much and understood it's the way everything's happening. That's why they could just keep coming at you. We got this presumption rolling. What what do we know about our enemies? They always just keep coming, don't they? Until they're stopped. Until you gotta get rid of the presumption at the origin.
And that's what we've been able to do. You know? You you if you're you haven't changed status, I'm not I'm not telling y'all anything new. You haven't changed status and you get in a dance with these people, the chances are very great that you're not gonna win. I mean, very great. Occasionally, we get graced by something. Usually, it's procedural, because we're in that venue. But, anyway, that's that's what I've come to conclude over all these years. It's very important. It's everything is this presumption law. And it gives them a two step process where they can bring fraud into the equation, and people don't know it or understand it.
So, anyway, that's my 2¢, Paul.
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Right. I do believe that we absolutely, positively need to have you, Joe Lusticka, and Mark in an in-depth discussion on fictions of law and presumptions of law. That Here I am. That's a very, very tasty subject.
[01:30:22] Unknown:
Yes. Alright. Well, maybe that'll come about one of these days. I saw you sent me a couple of emails. Mark, I sent you an email from a guy named a gal named Katie, who who was having problems getting your Telegram group, so you can contact her and get that hooked up. Okay? Okay. Sounds good. And then, I see that Shane's hand is up, so I don't know if he was Shane's hand is up. Okay. Well, let's see what Shane has on his mind today. Shane, good morning. It's early on the leftovers. Roger, which thing? How are you? Yes. I know you are. Oh, I'm doing
[01:30:57] Unknown:
doing alright. I I have a question. Have you seen the, the new president Donald Trump in gold holding a Bitcoin on the national flag or where it is. National Lawn, where it is.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
I I haven't seen that. I no. I haven't seen that, Shane.
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Alright. Well, he's on the that's the reason why I saw that he's on the penguin six penguin six on, YouTube. That preferably at the end, it also has him holding the, the Bitcoin, the golden Bitcoin on on the national lawn or whatever.
[01:31:47] Unknown:
Okay. So Great. Just wanna say that. Well, it'd be wise for any of you if you got any shekels left. And, of course, you should have some dollars on hand. The dollars will be good for a little while. Don't know how long, but people are conditioned to them. But, if you got any extra, you need to be shuffling it off into something real. I remember, Rob Robbie Noel saying gold climbs a wall of worry. Gold climbs a wall of worry. Now we got all these things that are clicking in. Basel three just clicked in July 1. That was dealing with the banks, and, they're buying gold hand over fist and have been for years, and, something big's coming. So whether your preferences are gold, silver, or Bitcoin, maybe some of these other marginal coins, I don't know, stable coins or whatever, take your pick, I'd I'd move in that direction very quickly.
Ifen ifen, that's a good southern expression, Paul. Ifen, I were you. That's I f hyphen n, ifen, I were you.
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Gotcha. XRP.
[01:33:03] Unknown:
Okay. There's Tom Tom and Larry, you guys coming in almost the same time. Larry, go ahead.
[01:33:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Getting back to the flag. Have you ever heard have you or Danny ever heard of the American civil peace flag? And it has vertical stripes, like seven I think it has seven red and six white vertical stripes, and then it has the 50 stars in the upper left hand corner. Has is that a legitimate flag that was ever used in American history?
[01:33:37] Unknown:
I I'm not familiar with it. Maybe, you know, you go to some reference and look through. There's a bunch of different kinds of flags. I don't know, Larry.
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It is a civil peace flag. I yield.
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It's a civil peace flag. It's a civil peace flag.
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So there's, patriots that you know, there's students of the patriot community that believe that that is the legitimate flag, that the, flag that's currently being used is a military flag because we're always at war. There's always some type of, Well, it could be. You know? Yeah. The, one of those, all those, those orders that are put out, There's a word for it, but it's it escapes me right now. But that's why we're always,
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at at war. Well, I think it's what we've only and then we've only not been at war seven years in the whole history of the country or something like that. Mhmm. It's not very many. K?
[01:34:47] Unknown:
The national emergencies. We're always there's always an you know, at a national emergency.
[01:34:53] Unknown:
Well, it has been since the '33. So. It all it has been since '33, and they have to bring in other emergencies to keep elongating that one. My understanding. Tom?
[01:35:07] Unknown:
Well, just another point on that civil peace flag. He never. He just jumps in. The stars are blue the stars are blue with a white background in the upper left corner, and I yield.
[01:35:22] Unknown:
Alright. Joan?
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Hey, Roger.
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Yes. What seven years have we not had I don't I don't know. I back in the '18 back in the eighteen hundreds, Joan. K. What who's the guy there?
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That's x again.
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Okay, x. What do you got now? X Gentile.
[01:35:49] Unknown:
I got a question for you. You know? I'm I'm pretty certain that gold was gonna be the leader in the money because they these guys would be blowing up the World Trade Center robbing Fort Knox if gold wasn't their future. You know? So is it possible that they could be have two currencies in the future, you know, like a Bitcoin digital trading system for the sleighs, which would be us, and then gold for their purchasing power. They're they're great. All kind well, you got all kinds of currencies now. Why wouldn't that be the case?
[01:36:20] Unknown:
Yeah. They're gonna you're you know, you the the the the BRICS thing is becoming more important by the day because Trump's tariff actions and BRICS standard is on 2.2 to four nine kilo bars. 2.2 pounds pure gold. That's the new world standard. It's not Dory bars or good delivery bars like it used to be. K? So, yeah, the whole thing's moving in that direction.
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And I can confirm the gold statue of him him holding a Bitcoin. You know? This guy is obsessed with gold because I I also have, pictures when he was, posing with Kushner and family and his daughter in, 666 Park Avenue, New York with all these gold Egyptian statues, and he's laying on the floor like a model. You know? And there's all this gold, and they're like, I've never seen so much gold in my life. But There's there's definitely something something gonna happen in our future here real soon with gold and Bitcoin. I or I should say the digital first. Just book it. You know? I mean, I've I've told you all the story. Jim Sinclair
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used to be Bill Holter's partner. He was the guy that Volker tapped to unwind the silver the, Hunt Brothers silver position back in the early eighties. So he knows where all the skeletons are buried. K? He's dead now, unfortunately. But he used to work with. I saw him on an interview. Just go ahead.
[01:37:54] Unknown:
No. I'm waiting for you to finish. And, Hockney, I'm waiting for you to finish, and then I wanna comment.
[01:38:03] Unknown:
I heard him and Holt are in the discussion, and it was Jim Sinclair's words. If you had the amount of dollars registered that is known, it would could be in the area of a $185,000 an ounce. That was from Jim Sinclair. K? Not me. Somebody that really knew, though. Julie?
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Yeah. I just wanna say that I disagree. So, I have,
[01:38:32] Unknown:
read the new stuff. You you disagree with what? I disagree with something there? Yeah. The flag thing? A person thing? You disagree with what?
[01:38:41] Unknown:
The financial stuff that's being discussed right now. So this was discussed on the Republic call last night. And, if you read the Genius Act and then you go and read the Clarity Act and the, anti CBD surveillance state act. They tell you exactly what's going on here, and even Martin Armstrong, on the show that I watched yesterday, gels with what I have written up for myself here. So, you know, they this is not going to go well when all of this digital stuff goes out and, the central banks are going to be able to determine who gets what and what current cryptocurrency survive, which cryptocurrencies do not survive, and who can use them, when they can use them. And Martin Armstrong said yesterday on his show that he predicts that, the euro will completely they're rolling out the CBDC and after that's rolled out, they'll kill Bitcoin and all cryptocurrencies because they're direct competitors to the central banks and the central banks want to control everything.
So be careful about how this rolls out. Also, Martin said there's no way that gold is going to be revalued like a lot of these gold dealers are stating to $20,000 and $40,000 an ounce. I'm just the messenger here. Go listen to his recordings. That guy is extremely smart in the way he backs up his statements, I yield.
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It's the one of the only ways they can get rid of part of this fabricated, hypothecated debt is by raising the price of gold. K? So you can disagree all you want. All I was telling you is what Martin Arm or what JD Sinclair
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said. K? Yeah. Well, that's not what Martin Armstrong says, and that's not what Well, that's stupid. That in the financial industry, they're gonna deflate. They're gonna print and print, and they're gonna inflate us out of this. That's exactly what they're gonna do. Choice well, that's the only choice they've got or or or go bankrupt again.
[01:40:39] Unknown:
Inflate or die. That's the only choice they've got.
[01:40:42] Unknown:
They're gonna deflate the currency. They're gonna print the hell out of the Federal Reserve notes, stable coins. We're gonna be the world's reserve currency, mark my words. And, the dollars is is going to be the strongest currency in the world, mark my words. The United 70 to 80% of US Federal Reserve notes are held outside of The United States right now. Go listen to the minister of finance at Russia who was on yesterday accusing Trump of the very very same thing that he says he's gonna do, which is written in the Genius Act, the state the the on the Clarity Act and the Genius Act and that Martin Armstrong has confirmed as several other people as well, even on the Republic call last night. I spoke to Ed from Georgia. He said the exact same thing all these people are saying. It's very evil.
[01:41:29] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I have no doubt. No. I agree with you on that. And, of course, as you know, that you Sinclair's statement was a number of years ago. Technology has changed. Things have changed since then. I was just trying to give people some idea from us, an expert, true expert, of what the value of gold might potentially be. And it's still gonna be a basis because the whole Shanghai thing is based on it, Julie. So don't just discount gold. Okay? I think you're making a big mistake if you do that. And the rest of the world is not ready for a little bit. I never just yeah. The rest of the world is not ready. The whole United States is not ready for digital currency that everybody has to depend on.
21% of the people are totally illiterate. Many of them don't have cell phones. Now all that how they gonna force them onto it, Jolie Julie? How they gonna make the whole system work when they got all these bottom dwellers down there?
[01:42:26] Unknown:
I understand a 100% what you're saying, and I don't ever I never discounted not buying gold or silver. I myself own it. I I support a diversified portfolio of a multitude of assets for everybody. Don't stick all your eggs in one basket. That's what I've done. That's the paper wheel. The way this whole financial system is rolling out, I just disagree with how with some of these people. And I understand exactly what Andy Shechtman's point is. And I understand exactly what Bill Holter's, point is. I just don't agree with that is the way that this is going to be done to pay off this debt. Even if you revalue gold, the $37,000,000,000,000 like we discussed yesterday on your show was more like $250,000,000,000,000 You'd have to revalue gold at such an exponential value in order to even make a dent in our debt. The way they're going to do it is they're going to prick their way out of this, which is going to lead to hyper inflation for We The People, stagflation because our economy is going to take a hit. So you're going to have no economy and you're going to have prices that are going to make the 1929
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period look like a walk in the Central Park. It will be the it will be the biggest financial catastrophe in the history of the planet. There's no doubt about that. And I don't think they can control it. I see that they can't control a whole lot of shit that they think they can control and spiraling out of control against them right now. So, they're losing more every day. Okay? Just look around. So, that we'll see. It's a conundrum. My suggestion is to you, I don't tell you what to do. Just get in the best position you can. The hour is late. If you haven't done much, you don't have much time. And, you you gold and silver are gonna be what? Unaffordium and unobtainium?
They're gonna change the name? Who was trying to say something there? Yeah. This is Judge. And in that same conversation
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of with Jim Sinclair and Holter way back then, they went over what would they thought was going to happen. And they thought that, yes, the digital was gonna come in, but it was going to fail Yeah. After a few years
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Or less. And
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or less. And, Catherine Austin Fitz mentions a country that has tried to go digital, and they're going back to cash. So everything is voluntary. So I think it was Nigeria. Yeah. Yeah. And and everything's voluntary. And, one a couple other things. You know, you're gonna have to with you're you're not gonna you're gonna have to not volunteer into the system in order you can't comply, and it will fail. That's the key. I understand people are gonna starve or think they're gonna starve, and they're gonna go, oh, yeah. I don't have any money to eat. I'm gonna go into the system. Well, hopefully, it fails. It's kinda like, a a Bush with a big boil gold Bitcoin, but he has a Netanyahu pay gold pager in his back pocket. It's gonna blow up in their faces.
[01:45:39] Unknown:
Good, Scott. Do. We no. None of us have a crystal ball. All you can do is prepare the very best you can. And as Thomas Jefferson said, I know no no way better way of predicting the future than looking at the past. So you look at the past. Gold's been the primary, recipient of all that, over all these years on every civilization, period. Silver also, of course. And, to to make the best decisions you can, folks. I'm not gonna tell you what to do.
[01:46:09] Unknown:
You're right.
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But I can just tell you, it ain't pretty up ahead. I'm so fortunate, Paul, to be here in Ecuador. The dollar will be king here. They'll the the people, the Indian population, the stuff, many of which are illiterate, that's what they'll always accept. They'll never accept a cyber CyberCoin. They've already tried that here back when Korea was in power. The Ecuadorians wouldn't accept it. They wouldn't use it. K? So I feel very fortunate to be here. There's a couple other countries. Argentina now, I believe, Panama. There's a small island in the Caribbean that uses the dollar. I don't remember which one it is. I'm sorry. But those countries will assure that the Federal Reserve will have to keep printing dollars.
Yeah. Paul.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
Well, I wouldn't get too excited about the national debt because we're the creditors. That debt is owed to us, and who owes it is the vicious bastards that instituted the feudal system and the monetary system, the debt monetary system in the first place. We are the creditors,
[01:47:24] Unknown:
period. I get on this soapbox and tell you folks we gotta spread this. We got power if we spread this. And one of the thing we can do is point back and say, you see that 37,000,000,000,000? Well, hell, that's all based on fraud. You never asked me if my assistant in The United States are national. You only asked me if I was a citizen in The United States, and you knew damn well there was another one. That's fraud. We ain't paying no fraudulent contracts in treasury bills. Now here's what you could do. With that CUSIP number, if you could go back and trace that CUSIP number, I guess, from the birth certificate all the way through the system and find out who are the owners of the bonds.
And find and if they're if they're bad guys, don't pay them. And if they're mom and pop investors or innocent people, pay them. But but that's a pipe dream, kinda. Just saying that some way that it could be handled down the line should we ever get control. But the whole damn thing is total fraud. Yes, Joe. Hey. How are you doing this morning, buddy?
[01:48:29] Unknown:
I'm doing well. Thank you. Just a brief comment about Paul's comment, and it's this is kinda tongue in cheek, but it's not. If, the national debt is owed to the American people, Where in the hell is my payment?
[01:48:48] Unknown:
You just made it. It's getting hijacked
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along the way.
[01:48:52] Unknown:
It sure is. And they've devised the self you know, Rents asked me that question. Kinda caught me off guard. I've, of course, thought about it before. Who do we owe the debt to? Will we owe the debt to ourselves because we're the collateral for it? Yes. Well, they've got this thing spread Somebody paid one of the payments on it. Yeah. It's designed it is really designed slick, man. These guys Satan's slick, Joe. I bet you'd agree.
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I would agree.
[01:49:22] Unknown:
Hold on. Gold and gold and silver is a good place to put money because it's going up every single day. And the only thing that's gonna happen with the value of gold and silver is that as it goes up, that means that the working value of the dollar has gone. Went down. Went down.
[01:49:44] Unknown:
Right. Right. So my goal that I bought so many hold on. I'm the gold I bought so many years ago, twenty plus years ago at less than $300, has gone up to almost approaching $4,000 an ounce. But that's not a rise in the price of gold. That's a value that has been lost in the paper. Now Here. Here. Thought I heard. Hold on. I thought I heard Waeeb. Roger. Roger. Yes. Wow. There. Michael I told you There he is.
[01:50:12] Unknown:
Go ahead, Waeeb. Hey. Michael Seals you remember Michael Seals from what's that corporation he runs? He bought all that Bitcoin. He's Right. They're saying this Russian got what's it called? MicroStrategy. MicroStrategy. Yeah. They're saying he just came up with an interesting idea. So you he says they're gonna use that, the stablecoin and Bitcoin to pay off the debt, by not paying by doubling it. I left it in the chat. You guys can break it down better than I can. It's a description in this Russian this guy that advises advises, Vladimir Putin. He said that's what he thinks United States is gonna do, pay off that 37,000,000,000,000 with the, stable coins, Bitcoin thing. But you guys look I left it in a chat, and it it's really interesting.
[01:51:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've watched that 10 times. So anybody you you should watch that, but he's talking about stablecoins. He's not talking about Bitcoin there, and that's exactly ties into the Genius Act and the Clarity Act and the anti CBDC surveillance state act. And so that's why they're very pissed off. That's exactly what is planned. And that's, again, that's exactly written out in black and white guide yields.
[01:51:29] Unknown:
Paul, play that short two minute video that with the old man and the young kid explaining the gold. You could.
[01:51:38] Unknown:
Oh, could I say something?
[01:51:40] Unknown:
No. We've got Mer's barred around here.
[01:51:46] Unknown:
Uh-oh. Well, I already sent it to you in the email too, but, rattletrap1776@rumble. And I put Derek Johnson in the, title line there. Now this is a cowboy with a southern accent, but he has a photographic memory and is an expert on the law of war and several other things. And, so you can once you start watching, you can get into it. But, we're basically witnessing all these, military special operations. And, if you'll notice on Trump's baseball cap, right, the, make America great again, it has, what, forty five and forty seven. But what's between them? A dash, a hyphen, not a comma.
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Okay. Okay.
[01:52:39] Unknown:
You get the gist? He's been commander in chief all along, but this is all military operations, including what we saw go down there in Utah. There's a whole lot more to that. Yeah. So, of course, they're using all this energy at the memorial and everything to, further what they wanna do here, which is draw people together. And he does mention Christianity now. He did at the UN yesterday too. And, and the UN is, the times is even saying they're they're kind of, getting wobbly because they're not getting funded. And, so he called out Trump called out from the podium all the different countries.
[01:53:20] Unknown:
He did a good job in that speech. He did a very good job in that speech. He attacked local warming. He said it was all a scam. All a scam. He he really went after some of the foundational pillars of this of their agenda.
[01:53:34] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Yes. But this has long been in the planning. This whole turning point thing, And and you can look at Miles w Mathis too about Kirk. But, you know, you'll see who funded it. It went back to when he was 18 and everything. But it looks like that whole operation was intended for this time to be taken over like it is. A turning point, turning back away from this woke satanic agenda. So we'll see what happens. But as far as gold and silver and all these precious metals and gems and stuff and labor is the only value. You know, it takes mining and refining to get these items. And we, yes, are the creditors, and that's why they want us dead.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Do you know, Murr, that gold, silver, and I guess Bitcoin too are the only assets that don't have to bribe you to own them?
[01:54:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. But the thing is, you know, there's more creative ways with this so called debt. Who do we owe it to, and do we really owe it? Can't we just write it off? No. It's no. It's fraudulent. The whole thing's fraudulent. Okay. I would write it off just like Germany did. And and Basil, the bank over there is way out of line. They're they have total sovereignty and immunity, and they just make stuff up all the time. So
[01:54:56] Unknown:
That's very true. And, they have, the exclusive ownership of the land. Nobody can come in there. You can't serve them papers. They got their own passports, etcetera, etcetera. That's right. But the whole thing's eroding out from under them there. And, we're Let them sink of their own weight. Let them sink of their own weight. And see here let me show you the the power of what we do. What do we do? We go and pull ourselves out of the IRS. Nobody's had any blowbacks on that yet. What's that? That's that attachment to this debt and this interest is compounding for you and your grandchildren and their grandchildren, etcetera.
So we are still with fraud and hold it, Myr. They recognize it because they ain't coming after any of us.
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Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Twice in the Bible, it says Jesus turned over the tree.
[01:55:51] Unknown:
The best way to deal with the debt the best way to deal with the goal with the debt problem is to pull yourself out of the system and the repayment requirements.
[01:56:00] Unknown:
Right. And the best way to turn over the money changers tables euphemistically, which he honors, as you can see, people that have survived that we are told were killed or not. You know, we had Andrew Jackson four or five times. They they tried to take his life, and he he killed the banks. And Adolf Hitler was taken to Argentina, lived out his natural life. And, he basically killed the banks too. JFK, we're told, is ass assassination, but if you look into it, he wasn't. He was taken away. He was removed. He was only shot once in his right shoulder and apparently by none other than Robert Oswald, who was a very sharpshooter.
But, yeah, there's a lot into that. And you can look into, My God, I'm Hit. It's an Internet movie database. Mark Anderson put it up there. You can find it on YouTube or on Bitshoot, not YouTube. Okay. And there's much more, but I've I've dug into that. But You were Also with Trump, in the first in the first administration, what did he do? He didn't start any new wars. Right? Right? He lowered the gas prices, used only the few we weren't energy efficient, even exporting. So he virtually turned over the money changers too money changers tables too. But what we can do to do that is to use cash and checks as exclusively as you can.
[01:57:24] Unknown:
I yield. Do you have the used cash and the the people you're dealing with have either gotta refuse the business or not be able to give you change, Paul?
[01:57:32] Unknown:
We don't have time. I found that I wrote. Two minute and thirty five second video. Maybe we can do it after the whistler.
[01:57:42] Unknown:
Okay. Why he yes. What do you got real quick?
[01:57:50] Unknown:
Ask Julia why is, Michael Sales so against,
[01:57:53] Unknown:
gold and silver. He's so into this Bitcoin. Julia Well, I no. No. We're not she doesn't have time to answer. We're checking out the program right now. That's not a yes or no answer. We're not gonna deal with it. After show, maybe. I don't care. I don't care what he thinks. Okay? Will, thanks for spending the time with us today. We've had two pretty in-depth discussion shows two days in a row, but I hadn't heard Charlie Kirk's name mentioned hardly once. So I guess we're getting off of that, predominating subject.
But anyway, we'll be back tomorrow, see what happens the rest of the day today. All that stuff. They're very exciting times. Just remember, men have wanted to be alive right now for thousands of years, and here we are. And not only here we are, we have very, very damaging insight into our enemies, how they do things, and we can be the ants that bring the grasshoppers down One day at a time, folks. One day at a time. We'll see you tomorrow. Hope you got something out of today's, few hours. And we're gonna lay our bodies down right now. There we go. See you. Ciao.
Okay. Alright.
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The effects of leaving the gold standard.
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America's gold was supposed to back the dollar. Leaving the gold standard was the most costly mistake we ever made.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Well, Michael sales sales is saying
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is is saying, hey. What was so bad about gold? No. No. It kept him on. Why Waheed, he's are are you playing this video, Paul? Yeah. Yeah. I am. Waheed, why are you interrupting?
[01:59:43] Unknown:
We'll get to your thing. Just wait a minute. Go ahead. We'll get to we'll get to your question. Here we go. Start it
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over. America's gold was supposed to back the dollar. Leaving the gold standard was the most costly mistake we ever made.
[02:00:04] Unknown:
What was so bad about gold?
[02:00:06] Unknown:
It kept them honest, but they wanted power. You know, kid, folks today think this is just how life's supposed to be. What do you mean? Back in my day, one job could feed a family. My mother stayed home, father worked, and we ate together every night. Didn't realize how good we had it. After the World War, they promised gold backed dollars, but they broke that promise. They printed paper backed by nothing, funded wars we couldn't afford and shouldn't have been involved in. But France caught on and sent a warship to get back their gold. Truth is, if more countries followed, our vaults would be empty and game over.
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I have directed the secretary of the treasury to take the action necessary to suspend temporarily the convertibility
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of the dollar into gold. Turns out, when you fake the money, everything else follows, and you screw the next generation over. And it snowballs, kid. Prices shot up, paychecks didn't, life got tougher, and nobody knew why. We tried raising our kids the old way, but we didn't have the time or the money. So you outsource parenting? Yeah. I guess you could say we did. Government schools raised them, and the TV taught them bad morals. They learned debt, not savings, bought houses they couldn't afford, played video games, gambling, antidepressants, and crimes, families fractured, divorce rates doubled, birth rates plummeted, things got so bad people started financing Chipotle.
[02:01:41] Unknown:
Financing a burrito?
[02:01:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It's getting bad. Obesity. People eating cheap slop instead of real food. We got softer, sicker, and lazier. A nation in decline, but it didn't happen overnight. When Nixon left the gold standard, we traded sound money for a lifetime of debt. How will they ever pay it back? I don't think they plan to. Both sides keep spending like there's no tomorrow and leaving the bill to your generation. We didn't get it right, but you still got a chance. So take the reins, kid. Hold your ground, and don't give up on sound money.
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Yep.
[02:02:31] Unknown:
There he goes. Alright. Bitcoin commercial.
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But it was absolutely true.
[02:02:38] Unknown:
Alright. Do you like Bitcoin? Roger. Go get it. Okay? Everybody's situation is different. Yes, Larry. We're gonna get to Wahid in a second. Go ahead. Yeah. Do you have a comment on what just played Larry, or we're gonna go to Wahid first?
[02:02:57] Unknown:
Well, it it was a comment that was said, by Murr. She doesn't believe, Kennedy was assassinated. Do you believe that?
[02:03:07] Unknown:
Come on, Larry. I I I was gonna give a disclaimer when Murr was going over all of her stuff, and she's been very adamant about things that she was absolutely totally incorrect about before. So I just kinda take all that with a grain of salt.
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K?
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K? If you'll hang around into the after show, I'm sure you and Mer can discuss it.
[02:03:30] Unknown:
Yeah. And she can tell your theories on who Alex Jones really is. Go go ahead, Waiheep.
[02:03:37] Unknown:
Roger, yes. I this is why I want to get Julia's take on what that gentleman was saying about how they're gonna use Stablecoin to, pay off that $37,000,000,000,000 debt. Because she she's she's heard what I heard. She watched that same video. And, but he is saying he says that we spoke he wants to get rid of gold to Michael Thales, and I that's the question I wanted to know. Why seem so adamant about getting rid of the gold and silver in exchange for for Bitcoin and stable coin and all this stuff? If if Jew if Julie is around
[02:04:17] Unknown:
I don't know, and I don't care. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Okay? Julie, you're gonna answer Waiheeb's question? I am. I am. Anybody else got anything for me? Okay. Because I don't care, Waiheeb. Alright. Thank you. Pleasure to talk to you. Alright. Always good to be with you guys. I'll see you tomorrow. Ciao ciao.
[02:04:36] Unknown:
Thanks. Bye bye. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, you gotta understand why BRICS was formed, and and, and why it was formed. It was formed because Majorcas kicked Russia off of the SWIFT system here in The United States. And so, and then he threatened China and told China that if you help out Russia, we're gonna kick you off of the SWIFT system too. That's why BRICS was formed. It's a parallel system running parallel to the SWIFT system, and now they're playing games with The United States going back and forth saying we're not gonna let The United States or Europe or Canada or New Zealand onto the, onto the BRICS system.
Only our select countries will be able to run financial transactions on this, which is really going to be devastating given the fact that The United States is the largest consumer economy in the world. Even if you combine all the BRICS nations together, we have the largest consumer, economy in the world. But what Michael Saylor was suggesting that Trump do is dump all of The United States gold, just dump it, which would send gold prices down. It would screw over all of the central banks that have purchased gold and are holding gold and to buy, buy up Bitcoin with it and and use that then to pay off the the debt. I don't think that's going to that's not what's going to be done with all of these three apps that are going to be passed involving the stable coin, which will be backed by treasuries and United States fiat, United States fiat notes and then treasury bills, bonds and notes. That's exactly what it's gonna so everybody who's saying that the dollar is going away, that's a lie. Everybody who's saying that the treasury is gonna go away, that's a lie. All of these new US dollars, USDC, USDT, and USD1 are going to be backed by, Federal Reserve notes and a US Treasury bill sponsor notes written in in plain sight on congress.gov, house.gov, federalregister.gov.
You can download the bills and read them and, like I did, and it's written in plain sight what they're planning on doing.
[02:06:49] Unknown:
What are the there's some guy on Wall Street talking about? He's saying that, good luck to the bricks because no matter what, the the dollar is gonna be around a long time because sixty sixty to 70% of the foreign assets are held in dollars. Yeah. Absolutely. 100%.
[02:07:10] Unknown:
Yep. 100%. And and by the way, once this takes place, Trump is gonna have his own, what's happening right now is that all the central banks are gonna be privatized and, the central bank's main responsibility is to manage the money supply in our currency. So they're taking it away from the government and they're basically placing it into a few private hands. So that's exactly what's happening and, if you just you can see what's happening right now. Go look at the last Treasury auction that took place in August. Who was the largest buyer? Stablecoins. So people saying Roger's saying, oh, look at the the last Treasury auction was horrible. It was just horrible. Nobody bought our debt. Yeah, they did. Stablecoins did. Stablecoins now are the eighteenth largest buyer of treasuries.
It's one big Ponzi scheme. I mean, we we we loan money our government loans money to itself.
[02:08:13] Unknown:
The the inflation got is gonna be it's already astronomical.
[02:08:19] Unknown:
Yes. It's going to be astronomical because the central bankers are going to be responsible for the control and the money supply and they're going to be every they're going to be in control of who gets to buy the treasuries. And the crappier and the worse our economy gets, the higher the treasury yield and the more money he's gonna make. So all these central banks don't help anybody but the people who own them, like Donald j Trump and his clunies.
[02:08:44] Unknown:
Oh, man. Like the guy at the gas station. I know a guy that owns the gas station, and me and him are the man running back.
[02:08:52] Unknown:
Oh, man.
[02:08:54] Unknown:
Oh, debt cancellation. What it's all about.
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Comment?
[02:09:05] Unknown:
Martin Armstrong. I'm going to quote him. World war is coming. Now do you believe digital infrastructure and all of that all the accoutrements of digital infrastructure is gonna stay in place when everybody's using their high-tech weapons? I don't think so. I yield.
[02:09:34] Unknown:
Well, listen, I follow him too, and, you know, this is gonna get during wars, all debts get canceled. That's why all the central banks are buying gold right now. Because during a war, you know, China's holding on to treasuries. Do you think they're going to get paid on them during war? No. There's no debt that's going to get paid. And it's not just The United States that owes other countries money. Other countries owe The United States money and other countries owe, debt, you know, debt to other countries as well. So, right now, you've got Europe planning on attacking Russia. They have no choice. The United States down in Venezuela and now China and Russia have sent ships. You've got North Korea and South Korea going at it. You've got Pakistan and India going at it. You've got Israel and Iran going at it with The United States involved. You've got Russia and Ukraine going at it with The United States involved. You've got Israel and Palestine going at it with The United States involved. You've got China and Taiwan going at it with The United States involved. And you've got China and Australia going in it. And Australia has already been basically taken over by China. I can go on and on and on and on. This is all preplanned.
Martin Armstrong's, Socrates AI computer, based on pie and all of his mathematics and stuff has predicted this and he's tried to get he's tried to feed it all sorts of different scenarios from this being stopped. And the computer comes back and says no. I, we don't know. All we can do is pray that this doesn't happen, but be prepared if it does.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
I have a question. How does BlackRock State Street and Vanguard figure into this monetary or currency thing? Are they the holders in, the land, so to speak?
[02:11:28] Unknown:
And They own it. They own everything. They own everything. They they own they own the Hold on, Julie. Let me
[02:11:35] Unknown:
just the distinction. So, those three own the land or the property. Let's put it that way. And then the bankers control the money system or the currency. So are they in cahoots together? Do they own each other's stable coin? Okay. So a stable coin part of their portfolio, so to speak.
[02:12:06] Unknown:
BlackRock owns Ripple Labs. USDC, United States Dollar Tether just moved their headquarters down to how convenient El Salvador would be near, Bukele.
[02:12:26] Unknown:
Did did you say that the treasury who owns, RBX? The the Bitcoin is the same. The the crypto is the same. XRP. Who owns it again?
[02:12:40] Unknown:
XRP is was created by Ripple.
[02:12:43] Unknown:
Ripple. Ripple owns XRP.
[02:12:48] Unknown:
Stellar owns Stellar owns Stellar created XLMs, Ripple created XRP. Ripple Labs has just moved their headquarters down to El Salvador to be next to Bukele that was done on purpose. And Ripple Labs is in bed with BlackRock. Mark my words. BlackRock does not just own land and homes. They own the world. If you really want to know, you'll never figure out who the shareholders are among BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street, because they are the bloodline families. And there no one's going to know who the true owners are of those evil corporations, which basically control all of the major industries. And right now, they own the mineral, they're buying up water rights, they're buying up mineral rights and they're buying up land and they're buying up houses.
[02:13:39] Unknown:
Yeah, Ripple was created to try to put either put Swift out of business or compete with them because Swift operates on a five day work week nine to five where XRP can do cross border payments within seconds for pennies or even less than a penny where Swift charges a lot of money and you got to wait and do it on their timetable. So XRP was created by Ripple to be a cross border payment rail and then the RLUSD was supposed to be a stable coin for Ripple. So, how it all how it's going to shake out in the end, I don't know. I have a friend of mine who invests in all of that stuff. I mean, I can't afford it, but she, you know, she tells me all the time about all this stuff. She trades daily on it, and she's saying that XRP, it's somewhere she said it was somewhere around $3 apiece, and that they anticipate this stuff going double, triple digit over the next year or two.
[02:14:52] Unknown:
Yeah, well, it's not just XRP and XLM. You've got the XDC network, you've got Solana, you've got HBAR. I mean, it does create, it does facilitate cross border payments and it is it was created by Ripple and it is fast and cheap. So that's one of the things and you know, Bitcoin, was created by DARPA for money laundering and child sex trafficking. So the fate of Bitcoin and where it goes, I have no clue. But you know, I know that, John, out in California is a big holder and loves Bitcoin. I'm not a fan of Bitcoin, but I own the other, I own the other cryptos.
But, you know, XRP is going to play a role in the new digital coin, the new digital financial system. And it's going to be, you know, a mainstay in that system. So it was created here in The United States. And so, if the BRICS nations don't think they're going to need XRP, for an off rail system, see, it's not just cross, it's also the rail system that works with XRP. They're going to have to use XRP. So if they think they're going to play games and kick The United States off the BRICS system, The United States will just say, look, you're not allowed to be on the XRP system either. I mean, there's just so many factors that are, people are fighting right now. I mean, again, like Martin, Armstrong says, the war that's coming is I don't see where it's not going to come. Europe is in the biggest mess they could ever be. There's no way out except for war with, with with that Europe. Europe needs war to erase their debt.
[02:16:35] Unknown:
And what you have here in The United States, what I'm starting to see here is that I'm seeing a lot of agitation and instigation of like trying to start another racial conflict here.
[02:16:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, all I know is that, XRP is going to play a critical role because it's basically going to act like a neutral liquidity bridge. It's going to be bridging the fiat system, which basically is all currencies of the world. Is going to bridge all stablecoins, which are all digital currencies and all tokenized assets, which will include real estate and commodities. So,
[02:17:14] Unknown:
Well, the tech industry is laying off the unemployment thing is getting way out of hand. It it have you heard what is the latest on that?
[02:17:24] Unknown:
On latest on what, Wahid?
[02:17:28] Unknown:
From unemployment
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Unemployment in the tech industry and in general because of AI, you're saying. Did you just see the Bureau of Line Statistics, otherwise known as the Bureau of Labor Statistics? They adjusted the their numbers of job creation by over a million. I don't believe any statistics that come out of the, fake phony, lying, mafia run corporate government. And I will tell you guys the dollar is going to remain the dominant in the digital ecosystem. So XRP is a cross asset solution and it will serve as a bridge to the global market, but the dollar will remain the dominant in the digital ecosystem. Every single person overseas wants to hold dollars. They don't trust their own government. You think we don't trust our government here? It's even worse than some of these third world countries. So, with the digital system, all of those individuals, the entire world population are going to be able to hold on to stakebook coins with what's rolling out.
And they're going to be back from treasuries.
[02:18:37] Unknown:
Where is, the guy from Golden Donkey? I can't think his name right now. Yeah. I haven't heard from you in a while. Come on. Help me. I'm I'm having a Jim Willie. Where is he? I'm not seeing him any
[02:18:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a work. He's all over the place. He's all over the place. I have a consult a consult with him next week. He's on Rumble.
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Rumble.
[02:19:12] Unknown:
Hey, Julie.
[02:19:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, Dave. I got it.
[02:19:17] Unknown:
Go ahead. I have a question when you're done with Julie for you.
[02:19:22] Unknown:
Okay. Have you talked about why all the every country out there is buying as much gold as they can buy? Yeah. Of course. We're going to war.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Every country listen to Martin Armstrong. We are going to war. When you are going to war, you don't wanna hold on to your adversaries' debt because they're buying up gold right now because every single debt that you own of any other country is going to be going to zero. I just read off all the countries that are going to war. Imagine all the countries in Europe going to war. That's happening right now. They just announced yester Martin Armstrong got a hold of a classified document, for Germany, France and and some other country in Europe, saying warning all hospitals to get prepared and to stock up.
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And they're all bankrupt countries.
[02:20:09] Unknown:
The whole world is bankrupt.
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Okay. Which stop sketch?
[02:20:17] Unknown:
Oh. Just for the war thing real quick, stat sketch, if you don't mind. What if they staged a war and no one went? Wouldn't that be amazing? And are you They could be doing that right now.
[02:20:31] Unknown:
Thank you, Sherry. I was thinking that same thought myself. What if the war and nobody came. Dave, if you could get back to me after this conversation, about, Bloomin' Minerals and percentages of, like, lead, cesium, fluoride in in inside Bloomin Minerals and why the percentages aren't listed. Thank you very much. Research that. I appreciate it.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
Oh, okay. I think I got a a text from you. Right?
[02:21:07] Unknown:
No. No. No. I just I I was I was gonna purchase that then. A text from you with,
[02:21:13] Unknown:
Gary's phone number. Right? Yes. Yes. You did. Can I call you?
[02:21:17] Unknown:
Yes. You can call me. Just I I wanna know why the percentages are, of those heavy metals and and and stuff that I was like, so I'm putting that in my soil. You know? So I just It it look.
[02:21:31] Unknown:
Let me I can explain it real quick right now. Their plant derived minerals don't really have lead and, you know, all those those minerals in them. The the plants already broke them down, so now they're bioavailable and they're in trace amounts. The body well, it says the body has to have arsenic and lead and those other poisonous minerals or it can't function properly. And it's it's only in in very trace amounts. I'm pretty sure my the I'll I'll have to, take a picture of a label. Is Gregory on? He might be able to take a picture of his label because he got a bag of minerals from me, and and it should have those, percentages. Sure. High yield. Alright. Thank you. May I?
[02:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Isn't it important to denote the difference between calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride? One being from the almighty and one being from man?
[02:22:39] Unknown:
Yes.
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Okay. Yes. I was just
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wondering why the the the percentages if it's trace amounts, I guess you can't have, the percentages in it, and I understand that. I I yield, and we'll me and Dave can talk over the And if I may, Scott, one more thing.
[02:22:57] Unknown:
The fluoride is calcium fluoride, not hydrofluoricilicic acid. That's man made. Right. Yeah. That is man made. That is the most deadly, the most toxic, acid known to man, and it no way is that they can't put that in it. You know? It it wouldn't hold up in the bag. It's just it's yeah. That's man made from when they they mine,
[02:23:28] Unknown:
phosphates and when they smelt aluminum. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Well, I think you answered all my questions. We don't have to talk any further. These Okay. Plant based, mineral Right. Bedding. Yep. So I appreciate that answer. And one last question or one last statement on war. You know, I I think I think, there's gonna be a golden pager in in digital currency, and it's gonna blow up. That's my take on it, especially if war happens. I don't see how tech you know, digital tech is not secure. So I just don't see how I mean, fraud's been going on forever.
So I guess fraud will continue until we get it together. I heal.
[02:24:19] Unknown:
Okay. May I speak to that? Is my voice modulating okay? It's gonna be plausible deniability if you have your riches or, in the electronics and relying on electricity in which to transfer fund or do whatever with them and war breaks out. Oh, the electricity goes off. What can we do about that? I'm just saying it's, it's set up to fail and I yield for that comment. I I think I think everybody's
[02:25:09] Unknown:
seen the, Simpsons where, the young kid, goes in and deposit money. And and right after that, I'd like to take some money out, and it's gone. I yield. It's Question. I am here.
[02:25:26] Unknown:
Sorry I didn't get back to you, but, I I've been planning on giving you a call. I just didn't feel right. Anyways, yeah, those plant derived minerals are very good, and we're composed of all the minerals and everything on the planet. It's I mean, too much air will kill you. Too much water will kill you. You just get to, you know, ration your amount and don't overindulge. As far as war is concerned, we've been we've we've I was born in war, and, it's still going on. It's silent weapons for quiet wars. It's it's all around us, and our enemy is primarily ourselves, I I've been realizing because they have they've made us dual personalities and and have divided and are trying to conquer our minds.
And they've done a real good job of it. Over.
[02:26:33] Unknown:
Hey, Greg. Just, look at the label on your bag if you can and see if they have the percentages, or does it just say trace minerals? Do they have the percentages of each mineral that is in there? That's what I'm trying to get at. Or is it just say trace minerals on the label on your 40 pound bag? I appreciate it. Get back to me. Yeah. I would suggest that it's not there. It isn't on mine, but you can look on the bottle that Youngevity puts out,
[02:27:06] Unknown:
and you get at least a list. I don't think there's still percentages there, though, if I'm if I remember right. Right. They they make that in their in their form. You know, it's a liquid, that they sell for about $25 a quart.
[02:27:22] Unknown:
Yeah. You can look there. The 40 pound bag of,
[02:27:27] Unknown:
yes. Well, it's like this 50. It's I have 50 pound bags. That's what Gregory got, but, there's something called the LD fifty. It's a toxic amount, and doctor Glidden says the LD fifty on the plant derived minerals is nine hundred quartz. You have to drink 900 quartz in twenty four hours in order for it to be toxic. I
[02:27:52] Unknown:
yield. Understood. And I I appreciate you you answering me, and I I will probably start getting trying to get some. Appreciate it.
[02:28:02] Unknown:
I was also I had a question for Julie. She says we're gonna go to a private money system. Well, aren't we in a private money system?
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Mhmm.
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What? It's Yeah. 900 cards?
[02:28:17] Unknown:
Well, we're somewhat in a private money system with just the Federal Reserve. But the Treasury government based system, that's going to go away. It's going to go to Ripple. It's going to go to USDT, Tether like I said, USDC, which is, Circle, and it's gonna go to Trump. So the central banks are gonna be we're we're headed into we're already there and it's technocracy. 900 Yes. And we are participating.
[02:28:50] Unknown:
That's the problem. Just like with war, if we stood down, there would be nothing they could do. Use cash, use
[02:29:03] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Or something.
[02:29:05] Unknown:
Fred's been a lot.
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If there was a that again, please,
[02:29:12] Unknown:
Joe? I I didn't hear you. Just a moment. Thought rip I thought ripple was something Fred Sanford liked.
[02:29:19] Unknown:
Oh, yes. That's so funny. Thank you.
[02:29:23] Unknown:
Well, he likes to mix it with, ripple and champagne. He called it champipple.
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They,
[02:29:33] Unknown:
scratch. I've got my live earth fulvic powder, and all that said is Live Earth liquid fulvic acid is a cold water extraction fulvic acid containing over 70 minerals. No additional ingredients. And, Sherry, to your point, if there was an election and nobody voted, what would be the outcome there? I I don't think
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there would be no change.
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Oh, they just they'd vote for you.
[02:30:08] Unknown:
There'd be no They do. I mean, they pick they pick their poison. If you do vote, they'll just throw out some fictitious numbers to make it look to the people that somebody actually voted, and then they'll say, winner by a landslide. Our guy.
[02:30:28] Unknown:
Yeah. But that's the difference between paper and people. A vote can be had just by paper alone. People are required for a war. People are required to, invest or, not participate in a economy.
[02:30:49] Unknown:
Gary, you gotta back off your phone. You're really you're really crackly even breaking up. Well, I'm not even speaking into it. Okay. Doesn't matter. Your phone is, like, super loud.
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Okay. Doesn't matter. Is this better? No. I don't even
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I shall whisper too.
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Oh, I gotta whisper. Okay. Yes.
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Sound
[02:31:14] Unknown:
sound familiar. This is Sam in, this is Sam in Houston. Julie, is it possible is there another chat room available so we get to finish the conversation about the, economic system coming up?
[02:31:31] Unknown:
You can call Paul, and he'll he can give you I don't have another channel. You can call Paul, and he'll give you my contact information. You're welcome to call me.
[02:31:39] Unknown:
You can just go ahead and continue talking about it here.
[02:31:44] Unknown:
Why not? Well, in in between, you know, nutraceuticals and stuff like that.
[02:31:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Because everybody wants to talk about what they wanna talk about. But just go ahead. Can
[02:32:01] Unknown:
Jill, can you ex can you kind of go in-depth about what you think is coming up? I mean, just lay it out. I respect your opinion.
[02:32:15] Unknown:
Total and utter decimation. I think what's going to roll out is, the Communist Manifesto. I think it's already here. I think that we'll get a digital, concentration camp for I I'm sorry. I gotta go to my client, you guys. I'll get back on in a second.
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Yep. See? So what good would have you done when you go to another room? I'm just saying.
[02:32:47] Unknown:
Do you, I had heard that taking a half teaspoon of salt smell that real quick. Is, really good for you. Anybody got that, like, Celtic sea salt or whatever with the trace minerals?
[02:33:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I have the Celtic sea salt.
[02:33:03] Unknown:
Like, half half a teaspoon a day
[02:33:06] Unknown:
in warm water? About a half a teaspoon in a gallon of water.
[02:33:10] Unknown:
In a gallon of water? Oh, that's not much.
[02:33:14] Unknown:
You don't think much. But every single gallon, should I put more in there? Because according to the instructions, it said one teaspoon. Our table's here. I'm sorry. Duh. Thank you. I'm sorry. Not too soon. Duh. I was well, I did a recipe last night and and called for yeah. But anyway What what? On this money? I made a recipe last night that I had never done before, and normally, I eye everything out because I don't need to measure. But I had a teaspoon on my brains. I meant tablespoon. What'd you bake? In a gallon of Or make. Or make.
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If you don't mind. Just curious.
[02:33:51] Unknown:
What the heck is the name of it? Oh, lasagna soup.
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Oh, yummy. Alright. Continue. I
[02:33:58] Unknown:
Real quick. Field. I was on I don't know about a about a week ago, and I brought up the great deal. So I know because I had put some bills out there for, you know, everybody to look up to see because Tennessee, South Dakota are trying to stop what is going on, what Julie is talking about because they basically bargained all our crap.
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Do you mean the great taking?
[02:34:26] Unknown:
Yeah. The great taking. Sorry. Okay. So that pertains to a lot of this too, doesn't it? I mean, I do not understand Bitcoin. I don't understand what's fracking it and how I do know that a lot of people that are in it and big into it, like doctor Jack Cruz, Jeff Berwick. I mean, they have a lot a lot a lot a lot of Bitcoin. But I also have been doing some research on these Bitcoin centers, so to speak, because they're all computers. And they're putting poison out there too because people are mining constantly for Bitcoin. But that being said, they're claiming that the Bitcoin's gonna be decentralized, and I don't know if that's true.
[02:35:08] Unknown:
Well, I think Stablecoin is going to, it's made to take down Bitcoin. And if you can't touch it, you do not own it. That's my thinking.
[02:35:30] Unknown:
But also, like, didn't all of is it Spain? Maybe it I can't remember what country it is. But one of them uses Bitcoin the whole entire the president of whatever. I can't even remember. I'm having a brain fart. I think it's Central America. Yeah. They their president, that's what they use is Bitcoin. But what bothers me?
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Salvador, maybe?
[02:35:55] Unknown:
Yeah. El Salvador. Thank you. But what are they gonna do when the power goes out?
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And isn't that where Julie just said one of those companies moved to moved to? Yeah. To uh-huh.
[02:36:12] Unknown:
But it also produces a lot of air pollution. They produce a lot of air pollution because they take a lot of generating to cool them down, those big gigantic computers. I mean, there's they're having problems in Texas right now where one of them is.
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And they can't get Well, if we don't participate,
[02:36:32] Unknown:
I won't participate in it.
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So we have to stop not participating in wars. Do not participate in electronic means of exchange. And I I know it's convenient.
[02:36:47] Unknown:
I don't even use my phone. I I don't mind. I have a credit union for a bank, so we don't have CAPT. We don't have Zelle. We don't have none of that. So they won't allow it. That bank won't because it's a privately owned bank. They don't allow that. But, also, too, I don't I use cash for everything. I go withdraw it right out of the bank, and I use literally cash for everything.
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Yeah.
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I mean, because just I don't know. I don't see the dollar going anywhere anytime soon, but I do know it's lost its value. I yield.
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We have to be cognizant of what we participate in And I yield.
[02:37:33] Unknown:
That dollar is not going anywhere. If it does, it'll take ten, twenty, thirty years from now. But the older people will keep on using cash. The younger people will keep on using digital money until dissipate all the cash little by little.
[02:37:50] Unknown:
If I may, one of the the bills that Trump recently passed said cash is illicit. That means it's used for buying drugs for drug dealers and pedophiles. They want to make cash illegal, and they may have already done it in those bills. I yield.
[02:38:14] Unknown:
Hey, Dave. Just to add to that thought, I remember only if I had a bad time. To hang up and call back
[02:38:24] Unknown:
because you're, like, crackling terribly. You're crackling terribly. You're gonna have to hang up and call back.
[02:38:31] Unknown:
Sound horrible. Is this better?
[02:38:33] Unknown:
No. No. Hang up and call back.
[02:38:37] Unknown:
I'm on a callback. Crazy.
[02:38:40] Unknown:
Okay. Do it again. Maybe you'll get on a different trunk. Crazy loud. Oh, let's just hang around and wait.
[02:39:18] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. And, George, the thing about putting salt in the water, does anybody know you're just supposed to put enough where you still don't taste the salt? You can put are you are are you supposed to be able to taste the salt? Is it supposed to taste salty water even if it's slightly salty or No. Just enough so it does not taste salty at all? No. You should just cook with it? What?
[02:39:49] Unknown:
Why don't you just cook with it, and you don't have to worry about that? It'll be in your food and the water and everything. Oh, yeah.
[02:39:59] Unknown:
Right. Why don't you take it too easy? I take care care care take care one to it.
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Yeah. That too.
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Yeah.
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That way the water Oh, I also put it under my tongue. Will
[02:40:22] Unknown:
Yeah. That too, Mary.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I yeah. Because well, I'm a saltaholic anyway. If you guys could see my food when I eat, it's it's we'll we'll call it snowing. That's how much salt I use.
[02:40:34] Unknown:
Do you use table salt? Have. Do you use table salt? No.
[02:40:40] Unknown:
No. I used to. I used to. It's been about, oh god, five years since I've used table salt, maybe longer. No. I use Celtic salt. I'll I I don't the the Himalayan you know, because I used to cook with the Himalayan sea salt, but those some of those places are, like, iffy where you get it from. But because I have well water, it turns it foamy. I don't use that anymore. The Celtic salt doesn't seem to be doing that. You know, like, if I put it in for, you know, potatoes or pasta or whatever, it doesn't get foamy. So it does pretty well with my well water.
[02:41:17] Unknown:
Maybe it's your water. Is this better?
[02:41:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Much better.
[02:41:24] Unknown:
Wow. I tried dialing in directly to conference call and heard Joan speaking for two seconds and lost contact, and I've had the system call me back. So, anyway, it's weird. Up there are few up approved. Alrighty.
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Actually,
[02:41:53] Unknown:
you were you were cracking up there when you were talking. And, unless you can get on a different phone, I just don't think there's any way we can fix it. Am I still cracking? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. When you when you raise your voice slightly. You don't even have to raise it that much.
[02:42:17] Unknown:
Who? What's the So You can turn down your volume on your phone.
[02:42:24] Unknown:
No. That only control that only controls the speaker volume, not the microphone volume. And the lower your speaker is, the more likely you are to subconsciously raise your voice making the matter making matters worse. So bad idea. Alright. Alright. Thanks anyways, but bad idea.
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May I revisit the poison as they say in Brooklyn?
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Poison?
[02:42:58] Unknown:
Yeah. The poison. What poison? People who need people. Here's a great statement on a notice that went to a California, sighting on the vehicle code. And this point is really good, well taken. There could be no doubt that the legislatures who created this statute were well aware of the words men and women, which might seem to have been more appropriately used in the definition of person. That is if it was the actual intent of the legislature to legally equate real life flesh and blood men and women with Walmart. So reasonable indicate that the legislators use instead of the term natural person was clearly intentional.
That is legislators intentionally avoided use of the words men and women because to those to use those words would have actually created a grammatical error and would have been otherwise undesirable because the term natural person is also a reference to an artificial entity. As I shall explain as I go on, I contend that everything ever written by any legislature is, if nothing else, always grammatically correct. So then how does the word natural modify the word person in order to avoid a grammatical error? Anyway, it goes on if anybody wants a copy of this sentence. I think I sent sent it to Sherry. It's it's well, well written.
And gets it exactly what we were discussing this morning.
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You can send it to me.
[02:44:27] Unknown:
Send it to me. Thank you, George.
[02:44:33] Unknown:
Yes. I sent I sent it to you last week or week before.
[02:44:37] Unknown:
Oh.
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In the book of the hundreds, they link it to human being.
[02:44:45] Unknown:
Oh, what thickens?
[02:44:51] Unknown:
And when you're talking to AI about the Bible, they just love that word human being. I say, I keep correcting them. No. Please don't use the term.
[02:45:05] Unknown:
Yeah. AI probably says that Charlie is dead.
[02:45:11] Unknown:
Well, that's in the book of the hundreds, that definition includes persons, natural man, natural person, I forget exactly, but, they tie them all together to a non spiritual entity. So no soul in the creation of the government. So why ever use the term? I I would suggest just sticking with man, woman, and child.
[02:45:45] Unknown:
Makes it simple. That would be a. The civil peace flag was flown for only a couple years right after the civil war on every postal office
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that they had at the time,
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Both Confederate and Union.
[02:46:08] Unknown:
I have a peace flag, but I can't find it. It's around here somewhere.
[02:46:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Norm Franz. Franz is spelled r f r a n z. His quote, a new millennium. Gold is money of kings. Silver is the money of gentlemen. Barter is the money of peasants, but debt is this money of slaves.
[02:46:51] Unknown:
If I may Oh, you're looking for the flag, Paul? I got it in my profile.
[02:46:57] Unknown:
I'm Yeah. I love it. I'd like to talk about that peace flag. Nope. Go ahead. I'm I'm not looking for the flag. I'm looking for my flag. I actually physically own one of those flags, and I would love to fly it on my brand new porch, but I can't find it.
[02:47:18] Unknown:
Okay. The civil peace flag was created after the revolutionary war war for for the coast guard because it was a revenue flag. And they were going after the ships on the high seas that were transporting goods without paying a tax, and they call it the civil peace flag because it was after the war ended and the the bars fly the opposite way. And but if, you know, when it hangs as a banner on your home, it's supposed to represent that, you know, you are in peace. You are not at war. And you never fly it on a pole, you hang it as a banner. And I've heard a lot of stories. I know our assembly uses one, in in all of our, in person meetings.
And anytime a new county or state becomes, settled, they send them the Michigan Assembly sends them a civil peace flag, and I yield.
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Okay.
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Is this better?
[02:48:45] Unknown:
Holy crap. You're a little bitty.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
I'm itty bitty. You're a little bitty. See how they mess with your phone?
[02:48:54] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
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I'm either too hot, too cold.
[02:49:03] Unknown:
I think it's a conspiracy. I do believe it's a conspiracy.
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All good.
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Itty itty bitty pretty.
[02:49:15] Unknown:
Yeah. She's a little bitty. Now you sound far away, Joan.
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I am far away.
[02:49:25] Unknown:
What's more, I am a figment of your imagination. Giddy? Never mind. I fed you last week. You don't need nothing. No. No. I fed you last week. I think it was even on on Saturday. It was the very end of the week. There's next to no time at all has elapsed since the last time you ate. Cut it out. Quit your bitching. Go lay down. Go catch a mouse or something. Now before you guys think I'm absolutely horrible, she gets fed four times a day. She gets two tablespoons of food every single time she asks for it. And she gets sardines every other day.
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My cat is the same way. It's the second I get up, she thinks she needs to eat. And I'm on a farm. Do you think she touches any of the mice that we get riddled with in the wintertime? Oh, no. She just watches them run around. Just watches them run. The the chihuahua takes the money. Can I move in with you, Paul?
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Can I move in with you, Paul, so I can get fed?
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Of course, I use the very two pounds a week. I heard this is so cute, and it's so real. Dogs are givers. Cats are takers. I yield.
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No. My kitty's a sweetie.
[02:51:03] Unknown:
Mine's a sweetheart too. And she's a a tortoiseshell calico, which they're usually mean, and she's not. She's a sweetheart. And they usually hide from people, but not her.
[02:51:16] Unknown:
Every calico I've ever known has been an been an absolute sweetie.
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They're just yeah. I mean, I only have one cat, but
[02:51:26] Unknown:
Black cats are actually a gift. They're a gift. White cats Great cats are horrible. Little bastards are evil.
[02:51:37] Unknown:
You know what? My dad named his white cat bipolar
[02:51:42] Unknown:
because she was crazy.
[02:51:45] Unknown:
That literally was her name, bipolar.
[02:51:48] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:51:50] Unknown:
And then my sister has a gray cat. Every time I go over there, she attacks me, and I say, I rescued that cat. I'm like, I saved your life. Why do you attack me?
[02:52:02] Unknown:
Hey. I saved your life. I can cost you one of them.
[02:52:07] Unknown:
You only have nine Oh, yeah. My sister got in a lot of trouble. She's got nursing coming in helping to take care of her because she got all those jabs, and she's very ill. But Uh-huh. One the cat attacked one of the nurses. And then because my sister doesn't have any money, she, I had to figure out a way because they said that cat has to be put in a cage. I brought her a I brought her a cage to keep the cat in. So when somebody's there, she has to put her in a cage. And then she had to go get rabies shots, which I don't agree with rabies either. Rabies shot. None of my animals have shots, and I'm never getting them. But, yeah, it's like this cat is bad. She's like feral, but she's not feral. She's nice to my sister, but feral with everybody else.
Crazy. Never seen anything like it.
[02:52:53] Unknown:
Put your sister on glutathione.
[02:52:57] Unknown:
She won't listen to me. She's stuck in the matrix. She thinks the guy in the white coat is a god. My sister is a walking pharmacy. She's got a blood disease that she gets blood clots. She gets, and that's because back in the sixties when Angie was born, she was born with no hemoglobin, so they gave her a full transfusion. I don't know what kind of blood she got back in the day. We don't know. Plus her lifestyle was not that great. But, yeah, she's a mess. She's got she's taken this inhaler thing, this powder crap for her lungs because she can't breathe. She's got COPD. She has congestive heart failure. She's she's walking around with that kind of medicine. All it's doing is killing her slowly. She just doesn't see it.
And if I bring it up to her, she's like, I don't wanna hear it. The doctors are really good to me. I'm like, alrighty then. You do you, boo. I I I don't know what to tell you.
[02:53:50] Unknown:
Did you just hit Is that another sign of Paul?
[02:53:55] Unknown:
Pardon me?
[02:53:57] Unknown:
I was asking Paul if he just hit on his inhaler.
[02:54:05] Unknown:
I just yeah. It's just mind boggling to me. Like, how some people it's like you're talking to an alien about anything. Like, about the the court systems, the the money system. They look at you like, No. They would never do that. The government our government loves us. Mhmm. I'm just like, really? Do you not look around? They love us. Understand how people lunch. Lots of people don't see this.
[02:54:39] Unknown:
The government loves us for lunch, but only May I have to age three?
[02:54:47] Unknown:
I haven't read 1984.
[02:54:53] Unknown:
They would take it to action. Programming has worked very well like
[02:54:58] Unknown:
Casey Critter was saying. It's CIA piece of crap.
[02:55:04] Unknown:
Kobe. Kobe. What was it, Casey?
[02:55:09] Unknown:
I have no idea. How about Anyway, guys is very well. Hold it, Paul. Full.
[02:55:14] Unknown:
Single file, do not talk, and walk down the hall. Do not ask any questions. It's just so funny as we look back and see how we were indoctrinated and trained not to act, not to to look for anything other than what we were told. Yep.
[02:55:43] Unknown:
So Okay, guys. Stern tuition. What
[02:55:47] Unknown:
what sketch? I wanted I wanted to thank you very much for playing that short video. And was, the AI the only thing you talked to last night about fiction of law?
[02:56:03] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:56:05] Unknown:
Did you talk to me? For you. Oh, okay. Thank you. Bye bye.
[02:56:11] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:56:14] Unknown:
No. I know. It it was your it was your suggestion. It was your idea. Okay. Credit given. Anyway okay, guys. That's about it for the Radio Ranch with Rogers sales, the Wednesday edition for September 24, is it?
[02:56:36] Unknown:
It? Oh. God.
[02:56:38] Unknown:
The year is just going crazy fast. Crazy fast. Catch our website, thematrixstocks.com. Thematrixt0cs.com. You will find exhibits, downloadables, interviews, videos, books you can order, books you can download, docs.exposethematrix.com, a veritable plethora of information right there at your fingertips. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network thanking you for being with us today on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:57:37] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Opening banter, network roll call, and October omens
Macro warnings: bubbles, debt, and the oil-tanker economy analogy
Leaven of the Pharisees: 1933, birth certificates, and compounding debt
Dollars into seconds: grasping trillions and the coming credit freeze
Civil unrest, situational awareness, and personal safety anecdotes
Freedom demands responsibility: vehicle pre-trip checks and roadside stops
Old-school signaling to modern compliance: practical driving tips
Show purpose: opting out of federal systems via affidavits
Community call-ins begin: greetings, seasons, and "the paper is the court"
Residency in heaven: rights, duties, and legal personality
Persona and jurisdiction: masks, nature and cause, and choice of law
Patriot mythology vs. definitions: who is a "person" under the Fourteenth Amendment?
Constitutional context: natural vs. artificial persons and corporate personhood
Settling the person debate: everyone has a lawgiver—moving on
Top-of-hour reset and Chicago aside; back to personhood Q&A
Legal fictions and presumptions: ChatGPT research and rebuttals
Origins: Amsterdam, corporations, insurance, and central banking
Militia, "the People," and interpretive tangents
Postal rule challenge and shifting to symbols and flags
Gold fringe flags, protocol, and courtroom symbolism
War talk, Antifa designation, and street-level volatility
Flags decoded and grand narratives: royal ties and orders
Sound money urgency: gold, silver, Bitcoin, and Basel III
Debate: will CBDCs crush crypto? Armstrong vs. Sinclair vs. Holter
Debt, fraud, and opting out: presumption of law and status change
Gold vs. dollar: price rise or paper decay?
Intermission clip: leaving the gold standard—Bitcoin ad discussion
BRICS, stablecoins, and paying debt with digital rails
Rails and tokens: XRP, XLM, and cross-border payments
War scenarios and debt cancellation: global flashpoints list
If the grid goes dark: digital fragility vs. tangible assets
Civics and symbols: civil peace flag history and usage
After-show wind-down: salt, cats, and scattered Q&A
Closing housekeeping and resources: thematrixdocs and sign-off
