In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles dives into a variety of topics, focusing on the intricacies of the financial system and the concept of primary water. The discussion begins with an exploration of the fraudulent nature of loans in America, as explained by a certified public accountant, Tom Schoff. Roger explains how promissory notes are monetized and the implications of this process on the economy. The conversation also touches on the historical context of financial systems, including the Byzantine Empire's approach to Jewish influence and the Rothschilds' control of the British Stock Exchange.
The episode also delves into the concept of primary water, a lesser-known source of water that is believed to be abundant and renewable. The discussion highlights the work of Dr. Stephen Reiss, who pioneered the concept, and the potential for primary water to address global water shortages. The conversation is enriched with insights into geopolitical events, such as the unrest in Nepal and the potential for global financial instability. Throughout the episode, Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding financial systems and encourages listeners to educate themselves to achieve true freedom.
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No. Alvin, Alvin, Alvin, what prophetic lyrics there from decades ago. Unbelievable. Good morning. Wednesday, Miracles in Spanish. Miracles show, and it's Wednesday, September 10. We're almost halfway through the month of September. Boy, it's hard to believe. They go by quick, don't they, Paul? Roger Sales here and your, Radio Ranch two hour fix for the day. And if you're new, we're gonna if you ask the right questions, we'll tell you how to get out from under Jewish slavery, fake Jewish slavery. So that's what we're here about is you, actually. It's not about me. Although it does give me people to talk to that are like minded, which is a blessing.
So, anyway, here we go. There's people that help us all over the place, and the one that can keep up with all of them is and I don't know how is Paul Beaner. So, mister b, would you come out and give us the good news and help our friends get some recognition they deserve and have earned?
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There is a live chat on the Rumble channel, and we do check it periodically for questions and comments. Otherwise, go to our website, thematrixdocs.com, and you can click on the free conference call links and actually join us live on the show. We've got room for a thousand people, and we only have 33 in attendance right now. So you know what that means? About 960 of you better get on the stick. Come on down and set a spell. Do we have,
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usually, Miracle Less Wednesday is one of the days March with us. Mark, are you there with us today, Arc? No, Arc? Okay. Maybe he'll join us. Don't know what's going on in his world. There's a bunch going on in the world, though. So, anyway, we'll use this little couple minutes here at the start to cover this. I think it might be important. And, so if you're new today, which should, you know, never know if you've got new people or not, we're here for you, really. Our main initiative, our main thrust is you and getting you at least to a point of where you know, I my job is to let you know you got a decision and a choice you didn't know you had. Okay? Basically. But I don't tell you to do it. If you don't wanna do it, you go on off into the sunrise or sunset or whichever direction you're headed. That's your choice.
But if you are interested in doing that, we're here to help you, and we love bringing new people into the reality zone. I guess we could call it that, Paul, the reality zone. Bring you back into reality from your, from your, fake Jew illusion you've been dealing with for most of your life or all your life, really. Anyway, I I, you you had something to add, Paul? No. Just agreeing with you. Alright. Well, then let me get this other geopolitical stuff out of the way, watching Harrison as I do on a regular basis. And I'm assuming some of you in the audience get up early, probably dial into that for you, come over here and visit with us.
Harrison's gonna get the afternoon show, it looks like. Pardon me. Let me cough your Oh, boy. Where did that come from? So
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sorry. I've got a tickle too. I've always I'm I I just keeps having to turn my microphone off so I can clear my throat.
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Yeah. I'm sorry about that. Well, I've, been taken. I had a little n a c, a bottle of n a c, which, Cody sent me back during the, COVID years, which we're gonna get to in a minute. And, I didn't take them because I didn't need them at that point. So the they're sitting up there in the cabinet, and I thought about a week ago, I said, well, I'll just start taking some of these. It turns out NAC is really, really one of its very good applications is clearing, phlegm and stuff out of your lungs. And I swear I've been feeling my lungs feeling better. I've got bad sinuses. Always have had. Got them inherited from my mom, and, it's always giving me problems. But, that's a nice little stumble on something that might help that out. So anyway
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I should I should do that. I've got You should try it. Try it. I've got a couple of 500 count bottles of NAC because it's a glutathione precursor, and it breaks down graphene oxide and all that. Correct. Correct. So yeah.
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Yeah. Well, speaking of that kind of stuff, do you know who is really sharp? Have you seen he's been on the air more lately. Have you seen Rex Jones, Alex's son, go over any of this stuff? I don't know how old he is. He can't be, you know, early twenties, mid twenties. Looks just like his dad shaved his head and all that stuff. This kid is sharp on this stuff. This is his Ballywick, and he's formulating all the, supplements now. And, man, he's sharp as a tack. K? So, anyway, good for Rex. Maybe they'll work him into a little more regular appearance over there now that Owen has trudged off on his own.
But, anyway, that was the cough. Sorry. Harrison was covering this morning. The great that's a great name of a town, Kathmandu. You've heard it in song. Was it Bob Caesar and some of those let's just talk about Kathmandu. Well, that's in Nepal. It's the capital in Nepal. And so, there's some real bad stuff going on over there right now. They're rioting, and they're not happy with their, elite leadership. And the fact that only 20% of the people from teenage to mid twenties have a job, and yet all these, siblings of the elite going around with all their international travel and fancy handbags and all that stuff. Well, they got to a point they didn't like it, and, they, started revolting by the tens of thousands over there. You you haven't seen any of the shots of this, have you, Paul? No. I haven't. Well, they're burning the hell out of that place, man. I went in one of the one of the big guys' wives was burned alive. They burned their house, and she's perished in it.
They're attacking their houses by the tens of thousands. They have no guns. It's all rocks and just sheer numbers of people. And, they have they have, set quite a stage over there in Nepal, for the, world elite to gaze on. Mhmm. And, because these people don't have guns, it's just sheer numbers. And that, of course, is what scares them. Even without injecting what we do, it's just the numbers of people is what scares the the out of them. Mhmm. So, anyway, that's going on. There's got the, Tommy Robinson thing coming up this, this weekend, thirteenth, I believe. And, I'm sure Paul will wanna talk about that tomorrow maybe.
That's coming up this weekend. They have told the cops, over there evidently that if they participate, they're gonna lose their jobs or pensions and everything else. So the establishment is coming in and and and and stopping the cops from participating in what they would probably normally get out there and participate in. So we've got these scenarios that are building, Paul, that are very similar to before COVID. If you remember, we had all the same kind of stuff. All these uprisings and the yellow vests in France and whatever was going on in England, and there was stuff going on all over the globe on this, and then they came out with COVID. Right?
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Well, I think that might be happening again. Dave, are you with us this morning yet? Dave in the thumb, are you there fumbling for your for the mute on your flip phone? Because he was mentioning the head of the Michigan militia is also holds an official position in that township, and the whole all those people in the state of Michigan were said told they're going into another lockdown. Really? That's what Dave dropped on. Yeah. He dropped it on us yesterday. So, we may be headed for that same type of scenario. Don't know.
But there's some very suspicious things that are happening and shaping up. So heads up. Owls. Heads up. Lock me down. Well, they That ain't happening. It may be that whatever this variety that they're gonna bequeath on us this time is is more deadly. Maybe even aimed at children. We don't know. You know? But, anyway, I'm not saying that that's gonna happen. I'm just saying that the tea leaves are shaping up to where that maybe could happen with a lot of similar things as five years ago.
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K?
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So that's all I'm saying this morning. But, boy, it was really, Harrison does a really good job. The other thing that's happening, geopolitically, is they shot down a Russian drone in Poland. I know you haven't heard about this, Paul. You don't follow the news, as closely as I try to. And we've got this guy, Butts, I think is his name, who's the prime minister of Poland. He's a EU guy that ran him in to get rid of the other Polish guy that was trying to keep him out of the war. And, of course, Polish Poland and Russia have a traditional, antagonistic relationship. Is that a good way to put it?
Yeah. Like, they don't like each other, you know, like Chile and and Argentina. And, and, of course, with the people that have tried to conquer Russia, Hitler and Napoleon both failed miserably. And, they go through Poland to get to Russia. Part of the reason is because all that land in Ukraine too is because all that land is relatively smooth. There's not mountainous stuff there, and they can roll through there pretty quickly. You'll remember, I believe I don't I don't obviously remember the exact stats. Napoleon took 400 and something thousand men into Russia, I believe.
And he came back with 10,000.
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Wow.
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It's something that dramatic.
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What about catastrophic losses?
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Oh, yeah. And, of course, then with, you know, the other thing that always interests me so much, I should find out about this stuff, was, Waterloo. And what happened at Waterloo? Of course, this is where the Rothschilds came in and got the carrier pigeon with or news that, Wellington had won. And, that's when he took over the the London Stock Exchange. You know that story. Right?
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You don't know that story? No. I don't know that story. Well, the Rothschilds, one of the things, you know, cutting edge stuff they do is they had carrier pigeons. And so, they when they the Battle of Waterloo happened, they sent the carrier pigeons back to the, to England that Wellington had won. And having that advanced knowledge, I don't remember which one of the Rothschild kids it was. But he we went to the London Stock Exchange, and he and his agents, his known agents, they started selling just hand over fist. And so everyone knowing the prowess of the Rothschilds and seeing them selling automatically assumed that Napoleon had won.
And so they all started selling. And, and the Rothschild agents at the other end of the stock exchange were buying up everything at pennies on the dollar. That's how the Rothschilds came to control the British stock exchange. Okay. And then they parlayed that into the, I believe, into the central bank. But, anyway, what happened was, Napoleon got caught in you know, he had track of of of of wagons and stuff that he all his logistics and all of his troops and pulling the cannons and all that stuff. And they had incredible rains that summer in the Northern Hemisphere. I don't know if it was Krakatoa, but it was one of those real big volcanoes in the Southern Hemisphere that went off the year before. I think that was 1815, and it went off the year before, and that's the year Europe had no summer, basically.
There's all kinds of rains caused by that atmospheric disruption of that volcano volcano eruption, which was very sizable, that really probably defeated Napoleon because he couldn't move his wagons around. K? So there's a lot of very interesting things that surround that time. But, the that's how the Rothschilds took over the English Stock Exchange, Paul. Oh, Just a little you know, what does every victor in the history of the world have is knowledge of what's going on in the enemy's camp.
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Right. Inside information.
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Yeah. So, anyway well, if anybody didn't know that, that's how the Rothschilds took over, the British Stock Exchange, just having prior knowledge, basically. So Arr. Hey. There he is. He did two show up. Hey. Hey. How you doing there, mister Moore? And that's and they got beat by the tally stick. Yes. And, what do you tell the audience?
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Of anyone.
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Do you tell the audience about that? And I'll once you plug, for those of you who don't know much about the monetary system, and it's really one of the really key things you need to learn about, there is a wonderful I mean, it is really well done. Two hour documentary by Bill Still. You can find it on YouTube called Secrets of Oz, and it won a documentary of the year in 2011 at one of these film festivals. It is exceptionally Hollywood well produced, even goes over. And what triggered that was, Mark said, tally sticks. Some of you don't know what those were or are.
And, Bill Sewell went over to the, British Museum and got one of the curators there, and they pulled some tally sticks out of the out of the glass, display cases and started handling them. They were wearing gloves and stuff. But they ran all of England on sticks, folks. Sticks.
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Yep. That was their currency at the time. That's a great show. Bill still also has one. I've got both of these sets. Money Masters and then the Secrets of Oz. Yeah. Highly recommend those. The Money Masters was really
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Hey. Let me just interject. The Money Masters was first. I was his first effort back when I first got into this, and you used to always have to get it on a VHS tape that had been dubbed and dubbed and dubbed and had very poor quality. Right. That's right. So, Money Masters was the first one, and and then he came out with this excellent, excellent, The Secrets of Oz. If you don't know anything about monetary theory, system and you've never been exposed to this, take two hours and go watch that.
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What's what's fascinating about the tally stick was it become currency. So they they were finding the Bank of England, the people were and the government and so they came up with a way to bypass the government it's almost like modern day cryptocurrency in a way. Yeah. But it's just currency and they have these mostly hickory sticks that they would if you can imagine kind of a long slender stick and part of it was split down the middle Let me back up. Before they did that, they would saw some notches on the side of the hickory stick to determine what its value was.
Okay. So like a paper currency might have $1, $2, or $5, $10, so forth. They put notches on the side of this stick and then they split it down the middle almost to the full length of the stick and then they cut part of it off and the short part that had the flat side on it was the part that got circulated into the public. And here's the genius part of this if anybody suspected that they cut a notch on the on the, amount that was going around, they could take it back to the government, compare it to its matching stick, and see if it was a forgery or not, if somebody altered it.
Very cool, you know, for back then. Mhmm. And they broke the Bank of England because they no longer needed the Bank of England. So just it's a fascinating story, and and, if you haven't learned anything about that, if you're new to that story, really strongly recommend you looking up the tally sticks in England.
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You know, the only thing money is really there for, get you a second, Rick, is as a medium of exchange. I had the distinct pleasure of, not only getting to break bread with, but getting to pick the up at the airport and talk with him one on one, Byron Dale. Do you are you familiar with him, Mark Byron Dale?
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No. Not a sort of late name. No.
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He was this is back in the nineties. He wrote a book called Bashed by the Bankers. You can go do a search on it, probably find the cover and see him there in the hospital room where the, I think it's North or South Dakota police came into his house and beat the ever loving snot out of him with a ketchup bottle. K? And what Byron Dale had done was he, he had he was a farmer of the year in whichever one of those Dakota states he was in a year or two before. And what he did was he took the whole summer off. He turned the farm over to his son, and he did nothing but interlibrary searches on on money issues.
And he figured out a way to start his own Federal Reserve. That's why they beat the crap out of him. And, he even had a judge that ruled in his favor on that one on a lower lower court. And, Byron would say, here's the three questions you ask. What is money? Where does it come from? And how does it get into circulation? What is money? Where does it come from? And how does it get into circulation? So, yes. Comment? Yes. So Byron Dale was a good guy too. Yes, Julie. And then I'm gonna get to Rick in a second, Rick. Go ahead, Julie.
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No. I was just gonna say that book was incredible. The minute you recommended that a while back, I bought it, and it's one of the best books I've ever read. I yield. Yep. He's quite a guy, Byron. I was really lucky. I guess he's still with us. I'm not sure. Rick, what's your, what's your, your offering here, buddy?
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That was Nathan Rothschild that pulled that off at the British Exchange. It's one of, Mayer Amschel's original five sons. Yes. And each son, they were responsible for the formation taking control of a different bank, English bank, French bank, Italian bank, you know, German bank, whatever.
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And, eventually, that worked into the Vatican Bank because they control the Vatican Bank now and have for some time. And that way, he dispensed his five sons. I guess he had swimmers, didn't he? He dispensed his five sons throughout Europe, and that way they could make loans in different capitals to different people and not have to really transfer anything anywhere. They just Thomas. Alright. Their power instead. They He
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Nathan was, when William of Orange came over Yeah. He had a fortune gold, and he gave that over to Nathan Rothschild for safekeeping. And Nathan used that to,
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make a huge amount of money. Yeah. Well, you know, that's their reputation. That's how they got started was Rothschild loaned to governments. And as Napoleon was going through Europe and some of those things, he, he would get the nobles throughout Europe who were afraid their fortunes would get confiscated by Napoleon, and they gave it to Rothschild. What Rothschild did with them evidently was put them in wine storage casks. He would put the the the the metals in wine storage casks, Rick, from what I read one time. And he paid off all the nobles of Europe with the interest, and they got their money back. And that's where they got all the confidence from all the rulers of Europe to invest with them and have them look over their, their, financial stuff. Okay. Hold on. Joe's right there. Yeah, Joe?
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Just a quick comment before you get too far away from Byron Dale. I've listened to him on the old Chuck Harder program.
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Yeah. Uh-huh. You remember him? Yeah. Of course. And,
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numerous times, he, discussed the monetary system of the Guernsey Islands.
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Yes. Yes. I don't And,
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they separated their, monetary system completely away from England.
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Uh-huh.
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And also much of the
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anybody that one wants to look up the monetary system of Durney Islands would find it quite interesting. Yeah. Would be a good injection into this conversation.
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I don't remember that particularly, vaguely. But, let's see. What was I gonna say? Yeah. You've got these systems that work on their own, you know, around the world. They're like Jersey Island. They're not huge. North Dakota. North Dakota, Bank of North Dakota, they've got a, and have had for a long time a, their own bank up there in North Dakota, and they I'm not sure all the specifications of it, what how they operate, but they've got a surplus. I think they're the only state in the union with the surplus right now.
So that private banking, can really help you out considerably. Anyway, that's, yeah, Byron Dale. Boy, if you wanna see a picture, go look see if you can find that book, Bashed by the Bankers. And look at the cover of that. They beat the holy snot out of him with a ketchup with ketchup bottles. Poor guy. So, so, anyway, where else can we go? Mark, we were originally talking about tally sticks and stuff and monetary, and it's extremely important, because as, they've said and I've read over the years, there is no money. There's only credit.
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Mhmm.
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There is no money. There's only credit. Yet we call that money, and we create and help you establish that that illusion. And I've I've, you know, tried to get it across. Just go for one day. I used to say a week. Go for one day and every time you use the word money, catch yourself consciously before or after and correct it and use the word currency. And you will find very quickly how deeply you're conditioned. K?
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Yep. Very much so. And speaking of monetary power, I just watched a video and I posted in the chat and I posted it over on toradioranch.chatango.com. The Canadian reporter YouTube channel come out recently just like in the last day or two, and the Western part of Canada looks like it's going to succeed from the Eastern part. We talked about that a little bit just recently. This is this isn't. Yeah. They they needed a 125,000, signatures to bring put it on a ballot. They got up over 250,000. And the mayor of that Providence, Alberta, they're talking about all the money that's going to Ottawa and Ottawa is constantly passing policy against their interests primarily energy ton of oil that comes out of Alberta and you know they cut off the Keystone pipeline which Trump had given the green light to that Canada cut it off too. And so I forgot how many billions of dollars a year that they're producing and their infrastructure is crumbling because the politicians in Ottawa didn't want to spend any money out there. Yeah. Even though that's the golden goose. They don't wanna take care of them. I believe they've got the tar sands up there. It's what they found. I think that's where the bulk of that is.
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And there's enough I don't know. Well, I think so. And if they've I heard someone say again, this is one of those things you hear in the past that registers on you, but you don't know if you remember it accurately. I think they said that the tar the oil and the tar sands up there could run The US for, like, two hundred years?
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Well, I if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong on this, but I thought they said they're producing, like, 4,000,000 barrels of oil per day. Up there bigger than, like, any Middle Eastern country Yep. Which was just a shock.
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I'm pretty sure that's a shock. Now the other thing is very heavy oil, and it takes
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massive amounts of water to flush it out of the sands.
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Yeah. Oh, does it? It's like, like the oil quality in Venezuela, high sulfur? Yes. Yeah. And it takes massive, massive amounts of water to flush it out. Well, then you got just to the West a ways. You've got Anwar up there that they've capped for how many years? Forty, fifty years? Who's that pastor that used to tell us about that?
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Oh, yeah. He passed away, didn't he? Uh-huh.
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Anyway, that's supposed to be a mammoth mammoth pool of reserves also. Yes. And I don't think that's that's heavy crude, Joe. I think it's more lively food. No. The Palmyra
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area that you're talking about in Alaska, yes. Is wider crew, but the Alberta Canada crude is considered to be heavy crew. Okay. That's what they have as well.
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I see. Okay. Rick, was that you trying to get in there?
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Yes. Danielle Smith. She's the premier of, Alberta. And Saskatchewan, I think, has a lot
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of sand or or in the tar sands. I think Saskatchewan has a lot of Listen. That very well may be, and I'm not sure which one of those provinces has it, but one of them is loaded with this tar sand stuff. K. So But the problem is
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you had oil out of Alberta. The only way to go is south to The US. You can get Vancouver involved. Right. Vancouver, they can ship it.
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They're not they're they're not gonna let oil tankers up around that beautiful part of the world, I don't think. And that's, even though that's part of an excuse, it's it's legitimate. That's a lovely part of the world. The big deal. I lived in it for four four years when I was young. So guess
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The the big deal in getting oil out of the tar sands of Alberta is pipeline. Uh-huh. And, there's a hitch in the largest oil storage in the world is in Fushing, Oklahoma, and they've never got that pipeline completed from Alberta to Cushing because of the Indians. The Indians have have put a hitch in that giddy up, and Warren Buffett loves it because he owns the railroad and the railcars that transport it from one end of that pipeline down to the other end so it can go to Cushing.
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How where is Cushing, Oklahoma? What part of the state, Joe, is it in?
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It it's Southwest of, Tulsa. Okay. So it's in Oklahoma City in Tulsa.
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So it's in Indian Territory.
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Yes. Well, but the the pipeline, the hat part of this transportation is by rail. It's not completely by pipeline. Uh-huh. There's an interruption because of of various protests, if you will. Yeah. But once it gets to Cushing, then Cushing can store it and then ship push it on to Houston for refining.
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Okay.
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Alright. Mark,
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But that's a that's a big deal. Cushing being the largest oil depot
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in the world. Wow. There's a lot of the many places in the world. Wow. I did not know that. True. But something came up about the Oklahoma and the Indian territory from Dave of Dave and Kaye the other day. Mark, I asked Dave to send you a copy of it. Somebody had contacted him, I believe, about Indians getting passports. I don't know. Dave, are you listening? Dave, are you listening this morning? Are you with us? Can you come on and fill fill in some of the holes I'm leaving? Yep. Yeah. I'm on, Roger. Hey, Dave. Yeah. If you could, because Mark's witness, and the minute I read that, I said, well, you need to throw this to Mark because he's no doubt more familiar with this than us. Can you give us the what did somebody they contacted you through the website on this?
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Yeah. Yeah. They did. They, the gentleman, sent us a comment in the passport area, but we posted it in the forums. But it was kind of lengthy the and he was having issues. He's a citizen of the Choctaw Nation, apparently. And he, went into the passport office. And, you know, I was trying to interpret the issue he was having via his, you know, his comments and questions, but it appears, they were giving him a hard time being that he was, a citizen of Choctaw Nation giving him a passport. So I don't and I think my question to you, Roger, was would would would he be looked at as a foreign national and have to go through the naturalization process? I think you responded saying that No. The Indians were essentially granted US citizenship anyway. So I don't know. I wanted to bring that up and see if, you know, we could ping the brain trust here Right. And maybe get him an answer.
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Well, I really wanted to bring it up on the air where we got Joe and, Mark with us because those guys are in Oklahoma and much more familiar with this than ourselves. Mark, didn't I thought that they gave all the Indian tribes blanket citizenship in the twenties? Is is that right or or not? That's correct. That yeah. That's correct. It was under, Calvin Coolidge, president Calvin Coolidge. Silent cow.
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Yep. They, instituted the Indian Citizenship Act, in June 1924. And that that was also known as the Snyder Act, and it granted US citizenship to all Native Americans and Alaska nave natives born in The United States.
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Okay. And that was before Alaska was a state, of course. Long before. Right. Fifty years. Right. Or 2025.
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Recognize their legal status as citizens. It did not automatically grant them the right to vote as some states continued to disenfranchise them for many more years. My my grandmother is part Choctaw. My dad is part Choctaw. And,
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so l v l v l v Wilkins.
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Yeah. Yeah. But my grandmother I didn't know this until after her death. She lived to be 102. Oh. She she ended up when when they were shipped to Oklahoma, now she was, I think, born a few years before Oklahoma became a state, 1907. And she ended up in one of these Indian schools where they basically were trying to indoctrinate them with white culture. And she would never talk about being an Indian. And she later told my cousin that they beat the Indian out of her. So if if they tried to resist this, brainwashing indoctrination camps that they were sending them to, they would literally beat them up.
Sounds like the weeders. Whatever it took. Sounds like the weeders. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So but, yeah. They he's whoever that is trying to get a passport, it shouldn't be a problem. Now, it looks like the the Indian tribes are issuing their own version of the passport, but it cannot be used for for, international travel, which I find pretty interesting. Uh-huh. So they're still considered a US citizen. They should still be able to declare their status as a national and apply for a normal US passport using the same information that all of us have been using.
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And if they get a passport card, they should be eligible to travel to Mexico, The Caribbean, and Canada.
[00:39:01] Unknown:
Yep. Yep.
[00:39:05] Unknown:
Okay. Does that you think that might help with that? But I'm glad I was right, Dave. I thought that they gave them citizenship in mass back in the twenties, so I'm glad to know that was correct on my part.
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Yeah. You got your history right.
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So, yeah, you know, I'm reading I'm reading his entry again here, but, I'll kind of read it real quick to y'all. Let's see. I'll kinda jump in. He he had some issues. Initially, he decided to reapply. This time, I drove three hours to the closest passport center to be met with so much aggression and hostility. I was calm, prepared, and had more than enough documentation. The first clerk said, unless you are a Native American, I can't help you. And then after he said, actually, I'm an official member of the Choctaw Nation. She immediately left for her supervisor.
Once again once called up again, she refused to help or share and took she I guess he had sent in for a foyer. He had a foyer letter he had submitted to get, but I took my foyer letter with evidence of zero evidence of being a US citizen and kept telling me the letter is why she won't help me and wouldn't answer any question regarding Native Americans. She then called security and I was escorted out.
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Wow.
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Do you does anyone have any insider info on indigenous people or how this all is going to affect me and the passport? What what do I do?
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Well, first thing I'd suggest is not drive three hours each way, but to get on, find an 800 number and call the passport office and and and put this in front of them and see what kind of answers you get. I would think the first thing or write them a letter and see. Yeah. But they sounds to me like they qualify for a passport.
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Yeah.
[00:41:02] Unknown:
Well, I guess, Bruce. Hey, Bruce. Send your affidavit to the secretary of state's office, and and he'll accept it. He did he did indicate he did that, and he Okay.
[00:41:17] Unknown:
He didn't get anything as normal. You don't get anything back. No. Right. No reply.
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But within thirty days, it's the law. If they don't rebut it Well, I think it's rebut I'll I'll okay. Regardless, he's gotta go the some there's some hang up with the passport office, and I don't understand why they would give him all this problem. Him or her would be So Roger think it's the people there. As I read into this,
[00:41:51] Unknown:
there's always more to the story here. Wait. I sent my letter, notarized my citizenship to the state department. So he's talking about his affidavit. Never heard back. So since they agreed from the silent reply, I moved forward with the passport. Mhmm. Then he indicates I received a letter of denial due to unlawful child support. So that might be it right there. Ah. I quickly I I quickly replied on what rights are being violated, and we'll take this matter to the AG. I received a brief voice mail stating my passport is en route. I had no idea that no confirmation would happen on my national status to be continued in the next comment, and that's when I read about the, his visit to the passport center. So there's probably more to this story, Roger, than, just being, Native American.
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Yeah. That's usually the case date.
[00:42:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. Yep. So but that's the kind of questions we get on the website, and, we try and get them to put those in the forum for people like the group here to help respond and help answer, or I'll bring it try and bring it to the show like I did with this one. And, but yeah.
[00:43:13] Unknown:
He's he's trying. He's trying his best here, I guess. Sounds like he's talking about shoot. That's probably the the skunk in the wood pile right there.
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Yeah.
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So, anyway, thanks for bringing that up, Roger. Yeah. Thank you, Dave, for bringing another unusual And Roger. Situation. Yes, Mark?
[00:43:34] Unknown:
You know, it's it's not just the Native American. You know? There have been other people that went to apply at a passport office. And, usually, they do that for whatever, you know, reason they're they're dealing directly with the passport office and not just mailing something off of application off and hoping that they're gonna get something back, you know. Yeah. And but what where we've been successful in pushing back is when they try to say you gotta be a US citizen. Oh, yeah. I always weave into the response letter. If you're staying, I have no choice but to be a US citizen, then it would appear you're violating the thirteenth amendment against involuntary servitude. And then in brackets, I put slavery.
And every time we fired that off, they've done a one eighty.
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Real quick.
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Real quick. Absolutely. Yep. Comment?
[00:44:33] Unknown:
Now you could also tell them on top of that that you're being an open tyrant on top of violation of thirteenth amendment, both of those. I that I would think would sting some of those people up there. Who had the comment there?
[00:44:48] Unknown:
This is Bob.
[00:44:49] Unknown:
Bob, our buddy. Hey, man.
[00:44:53] Unknown:
Concerning the tally sticks, that's very interesting. I've seen that, Money Masters and all those Bill still did. He's an incredible researcher. I love his work. You know, the the the idea of tying it to crypto, I thought, was very apropos because it the thing about it, it comes down to trust. I hear people say, well, there's no intrinsic value in crypto. Well, no. There's no intrinsic value in a federal reserve note. But yet you use it every day and you don't question it. Uh-huh. Or a piece of hickory. Or a piece of wood. It all comes down to trust. It's simply a mutually agreed on medium of exchange. It's that simple. You can say it has no value. I mean, you could make the case that if people didn't trust gold, forget about the fact that they do. If they didn't, it wouldn't work.
We know it works because it has intrinsic value industrially, and it's very durable. It doesn't corrode easily, etcetera, etcetera. So it's it's it's it's gained that mantle, if you will. But it still comes down to trust. You trust it for better reasons. But if you trusted a Kleenex, it would be money. It's Well it's really not very stable, but it would be money. Another thought, yesterday on the replay, I was listening. The idea or or the thought the concept was brought forward or the fact maybe that briefly the Filipino people were under US custodianship, I guess, is the way I'd put it, And that they were they were able in that capacity to apply for a passport.
And it occurred to me that that's roughly analogous to somebody being naturalized and at that point being able to apply for a passport. Probably. And the reason I mean, they could they could even establish their nationality that way, I would think, although they may not have realized it because it's roughly analogous to the the act of becoming a national through the process of, gaining your citizenship as a foreigner from being a foreigner would be roughly analogous to the I guess, the congress would probably have had to have signed off on those k. Okay. Now these people are under our, you know, jurisdiction or or custodianship.
I guess I'll go back to that word. Anyway, it just occurred to me when you guys were discussing it that it it might be very similar to the idea that a a naturalized citizen could apply then after having gained that status for a nationality.
[00:47:37] Unknown:
I wonder, Bob, and I was thinking about it yesterday and last night of that example that you brought up that somebody mentioned, The Philippines, they were citizens of The United States for a couple of decade or so or more. And I wonder if that's not when that little example from the certificate of noncitizen nationality on the state department website at the bottom where it's got the one sentence disclaimer where it says if you're in the Northern Mariana Islands, I wonder if that wasn't during that time frame and the Northern Marianas were somehow associated with that. Well, they lumped them all together. Well, it's possible. From my own familiar frame is
[00:48:18] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. The time frame is pretty congruent.
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Yep.
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Isn't that the Nationality Act of 1941?
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'40.
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'40. Okay. Well, that'd be right in the time frame. Yep.
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So that may be the right I don't know. It made me scratch my head.
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Well, it's a I've I've never heard of that. I've never heard that about The Philippines.
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Right. I never had either. So it's kinda new to me too. But I I wanted to correlate it over there in Northern Mariana Islands in that statement, and I have a feeling, a sneaking hunch that that probably is correct. So, yeah. So who else has got a comment or wants to weigh in on this, area we're in right now? Nobody? Okay. It's some this money thing, if you're I I know we we got an update on Todd. Is Todd doing better? Do we know Mary? Are you with us? Any of Todd's group
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that got a update on him? Much better. I got a text this morning. Yeah. I just got a text from him this morning. He's out. He's doing physical therapy, most likely outpatient PT. So he's plugging along. He said he's just, you know, trying to stay as natural as possible.
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Uh-huh. I I hope we can get with Linda and get that, her wand, or he can try and see if it gives him any relief. It very well may. K? So, anyway, well, that was on the MRI on him.
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Uh-huh. He did an MRI on him. Was it yesterday or the day before it came out? I think I I mean, it's a a pretty
[00:49:53] Unknown:
Severe situation. Bulging disc. Yeah. It's a bulging disc. The cartilage there between the discs and, yeah, cool. Tell him, you know, our prayers and thoughts are with him. He may be listening. I don't know. Todd will Oh, I will. Thank you. We hope you get And the money situation, I did have a comment about the money. Yeah.
[00:50:10] Unknown:
Because I'm looking into Bitcoin. I'm looking into Bitcoin and the more I'm like because I don't know much about finances. I do have gold and silver. I did I'm trying to figure out a way to get it here. I think I'm gonna have to roll it over into a different Roth IRA and then have them ship it to me.
[00:50:29] Unknown:
Could be. I gonna have to go. Yeah. I have no expertise in that area at all. I would I never set up any kind of one of those savings accounts or those crooks. I always knew they're gonna steal it.
[00:50:42] Unknown:
Right. So that's what scares me. But Yeah. The Bitcoin, like, looking into that, if yeah. What whatever we give value is gonna be currency. But at the same time too, how is that gonna work if it's all done electronically and they shut the system down?
[00:50:59] Unknown:
Well, they can't really shut the system down, unless they do it on they keep their side open and they shut ours down. That's always a possibility. But, you know, there is a way that even though the Internet is down, you can transfer Bitcoin. Do you all know about that? It was invented, I think, down here in South America a number of years ago, and you get they got a special computer to mine Bitcoin. And you get some kind of a a little computer dongle, and you put it in one of your USB ports, and it connects with other one of those that are within some distance. I don't remember what the distance is, but there is a way around that where you can use it and transfer it even though the Internet may be down.
Okay? I hadn't heard anybody talk about that much last couple years, but that was there about five or six years ago. I just got a 100 and something $500 for $1. Well, I I well, you know, that's the beauty of Bitcoin. You don't have to buy all one. It's indivisible down to income much more so than gold. But, Oh, okay. You know, and you've got children. See? So you've got some progeny and some forward things to think about, and that would be motivation enough, I would think, to to to stick your toe in that water there. But if you do, get some sort of a cold storage wallet and store those things in that and keep it that way, that's in your possession.
Okay? Okay. So, anyway, that is not my the Cybercoins are intriguing. They've got some real good applications. There's some neat things about them. For me personally, at my age with no children, otherwise, than you folks, with no children, I've got enough gold to carry me over. I'm not worried about in other words, another way to rephrase it. At this stage, with my circumstances, I'm not really concerned with upside. Okay? And so I just like to wanna get up out of the bed and stand up every morning. Okay? So I'm not gonna Right. I'm I'm absolutely eyes open. Yes. But I can understand where people would, you know.
So, anyway, that's good for you. Do you know need a decentralized system. Do you know this is a question I wanted to ask you, Mary. Do you understand how the you say you have very little knowledge of finances.
[00:53:32] Unknown:
Do you understand how the financial system works? It's all on credit. I gave you the key about thirty minutes ago. There is no money. There's only credit. Based on bonds. There is no money. Right. That I know. There's only credit. It's all we're the we're the creditors, not the debtors. But they twist it and make us feel that we're the debtors and not the creditors. Well, here's what they do. Loans we take out to buy a car raises the debt ceiling. The more because the more that we borrow, that gives them permission in their minds to borrow from other countries and not pay it back, but yet make us have to pay it back
[00:54:06] Unknown:
on a bond piece of paper because that's all it is. It's bonds. Right? That's right. We'll attach our birth certificate where we're property object. That's the whole thing of what we do is attach you back into this. Right. You see, with them doing this, they they built this whole system and never had to have any money out of their own pockets. And they set themselves up at four or five places where there's nothing but compound interest coming in. I mean, this is slick deal they got going here. K? And, Oh, they're genius. Well, I was good.
Oh, they are. They they've been schooled for thousands of years. And many times, like, the longest empire in the history of the world was the Byzantine Empire. Do you know about that, Mary? And and what they did, the reason they lasted? Well, the well, the reason they lasted twelve hundred years is they wouldn't allow Jews in in in in in politics, in teaching, or in finance, I believe. And they relegated them to not be in those key positions where they could socially influence the culture. And my understanding, they had a a kind of a deal with the Jews. Of course, you never can trust them. Okay. That's long known. But they said if you don't if you don't socially try and socially engineer our society, we won't kill you.
That was the deal. Okay? And so that's part of the reason they lasted so long. But what I was gonna ask you is this is a it's such a slick deal. What if I told you that every loan in America was a fraud?
[00:55:45] Unknown:
Well, it's all backed on fraud.
[00:55:47] Unknown:
Yeah. The world. And here's what they're doing here for this for you, Mary, but it's for the whole audience too. We know that it's not money, it's credit. And that all what we call money or babble bucks is what we used to call them, all babble bucks have to be loaned into circulation. So you have to buy something. They utilize your house or your car or whatever it is as collateral on that loan. In essence, what they're doing is monetizing the value of your collateral because that's what makes up the bulk of the loan is the value of the collateral. Okay? And so they loan that into when you sign the promissory note, that is then what they call monetized. Before that, it's a debt it's a green piece of paper sitting in a warehouse somewhere on a pallet.
After that, it's monetized. And then you go to the bank and you want to borrow because you can't go pay for a house in cash or whatever. Right? And so they do a credit check on you and they come back and they have used they say yes, of course. And, they have you sign this depending you've been through closing of the house, Mary, ever?
[00:57:05] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. With all the paperwork?
[00:57:07] Unknown:
Yeah. That big stack. Yes. Yeah. A couple of inches thick. Right?
[00:57:12] Unknown:
Well, you you I'm sure comes in and sits down down and has you sign a contract that the liar says, AKA lawyer. That's right. Say, yeah. I've been through a closing. It's long and drawn out. Yeah. I said you wish you had a A money that they already received. Well, again, it's not money. It's not worth
[00:57:32] Unknown:
being loaned in the system. Right? Well, the the fake
[00:57:36] Unknown:
but they're going into our trust and getting a check from the Treasury Department and or AKA federal bank. K. Well, I I don't know anything about that. And then we pay with their
[00:57:47] Unknown:
Okay. I don't I don't know anything about it. Operating in the yeah. Okay. But let me just go through this process. This comes from a, Okay. This information comes from a certified public accountant out of Chicago who had qualified himself to do expert witness testimony and earn the big bucks. And his name is is or was, if he's still with us, I hope, Tom Schoff. And, what Tom discovered in doing that was there was no school to certify accountants to do expert testimony. And so he started one. Okay? And he was teaching other accountants, on on all this stuff. And one of the students was a federal regulator.
And he came in, he pulled him aside, and he said, do you know every loan in America is a fraud? And the expert testimony CPA said, what are you talking about? He said, let me show you what they're doing. That's what I'm telling you right here. Okay? So they come in and you sit down. The very first one on that big stack, couple inches thick in a closing, is the promissory note. I, Mary, promised to pay third so many payments to so much principal, so much interest for so many years. Well, that's not the money that they're loaning you. The amount, that's what the payout is. Okay? So what they do is get you to sign that. And when you sign that promissory note, it's now called commercial paper.
Alright? Now here's where you need to know a little bit about accounting and a little bit about law and a little bit about finances. You don't have to know a whole lot, but you need to know a little to understand what's going on. So they get you to sign that promissory note. Now in law, in UCC commercial law, that now becomes a promissory note because you promised to pay, and they're going to hold your feet to the fire on that while Paul bids adieu to our, one hour listeners, and I'll continue on the other side. Paul, if you would.
Paul, are you off chasing the cat? What's going on? Okay. Well, I'm gonna have to say, I pinged W B O U in, Chicago. It's the one we're, waving bye bye at in the rear view mirror. We're gonna go ahead and explain how you've been defrauded your whole damn life along with the rest of the country and how these, fake Jew bankers, mostly Ashkenazi Jews, have, used this technique to enrich themselves, Mary. I'm sure beyond imagination. K? So you sign the promissory note. It is a extended payment plan. And so at that point, you have created the amount that they're going to loan into circulation, and you created it by signing your signature on there. K?
Yep. I promise to pay this. You've created a future income stream. And so now that that currency called this what they call being monetized, it goes from a green piece of paper to something that's accruing compound interest. If you wanna look at it more that way. But that's what they call it, monetized when it's loaned into circulation. Now what they do, Mary, and audience, is they take that value that you've created in that commercial piece of paper, now called up, anyway, I forget. Anyway, they take it back to the financial institution, and they put it on the liability side of the ledger.
You know, double entry bookkeeping, you got assets on one side, and you got liabilities on the other. They're supposed to balance. That was invented in the 1500 by the Medici over somebody over in Florence, I believe. So, anyway, they put that promissory note with that with that extended payout on there, but they put it on the liability side of the ledger. Now that note becomes worth what the eventual payout is. Okay? So they take and discount it into the secondary market. With homes, it all goes to Federal Reserve. With cards and stuff, I don't know. The bank may hold the paper itself and not discount it, but, generally, they discount it. So they discount it to an investor at a discounted price, and then they bring those funds that the investor pays them, and they put them on the asset side of the ledger.
Now they balance, supposedly, probably out of balance. And it's that cash that they get back from selling that in the secondary market that they go over and pay your car dealer with or your guy that built your house or whatever it is you're buying. So that's how the whole thing and then it's got that compound interest attached, but it's only the principal, this loan, into circulation. And then that's where they make money in the out of thin air. Is that interest that's building on that collateralized monetary amount of whatever you purchased? Does that make sense to you, Mary? Well,
[01:03:19] Unknown:
yes. It does. Now I fully understand more. But is that why I watched the documentary the the other day, and this is all going to the attorney general because of the fraud. Is is this why they inflate the prices of the houses?
[01:03:37] Unknown:
Because they're like, how do they Well, that's price inflation. K? It's a result Okay. Of this other inflation. It is what classic inflation definition is too too many pieces of paper chasing too few of goods. And that way, the the person that's selling it, as the value of the circulating currency diminishes, has got to raise his prices to stay in business.
[01:04:06] Unknown:
Okay. Because my mother-in-law Yes. Those are She's in assisted living right now, and they sold her house when she they purchased it in the fifties. Grandpa paid $28,000 for the property for the house. Yep. So it was just a simple, modest ranch. Yep. But it sold for $2.19 Yep. In December 19000.
[01:04:29] Unknown:
That's price inflation. What that represents, you know, every year when they say inflation was 2% this year. So what's or whatever? Well, they're telling you, in other words, the purchasing power of your currency lost two percent this year.
[01:04:47] Unknown:
Oh.
[01:04:49] Unknown:
So when you compile that over decades, that's the difference in those price, determinations. And the the the price of the unit did not go up. Just like gold. Gold doesn't go up. What it does is it shows you the comparison within the money that is purchased with. For example, if I go back to Rome, two thousand years ago, take an ounce of gold, buy a nice toga, nice belt, some nice sandals, go out and have a nice dinner. I take an ounce of gold to New York City today, go buy a nice suit, get some nice shoes and a belt, and go out and take you out for a nice dinner. This purchasing power, not numbers.
This is where they had Vegas. Just a second, Larry. This is where they had Vegas. K? So when gold goes up, the price of gold has not gone up. The value of the currency that is being purchased with has gone down. It's more of this dialectic stuff, and you you if you think about it, you'll get it. Okay? But we're they've always got us looking in the wrong direction. Yes, Larry.
[01:06:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I think the word you're looking for is negotiable instrument. When you sign a promissory note, it becomes a negotiable instrument. Yeah. And there's a lot of patriots out there that are teaching, that you can create your own negotiable instrument, but the system has been set up in such a way that the banks will not accept them. The the the negotiable instrument has to be created through the bank after you sign a promissory note. Okay. You want an example of for the patriots that are trying that? Go look at the cover of Byron Dale's book, Bashed by the Bankers.
[01:06:41] Unknown:
Go look at that before you launch off on that. K?
[01:06:46] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
[01:06:47] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:06:50] Unknown:
Is that William? I just wanna interject. No. This is David Wagner. Well,
[01:06:56] Unknown:
if something tickled Julie, we'll get back to her in a second. Go ahead, mate.
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Look at the bed. Look at the cover of the book.
[01:07:09] Unknown:
Well, I'm telling you that's how serious they take this stuff. You go ahead and do it if you want to. Cool. Yes. What, Dave?
[01:07:22] Unknown:
I you know, regarding regarding the the mortgage topic, you know, it's amazing how this message resonates with with people, how you end up, they end up hearing about it. And I I see that because we're currently refinancing. We're consolidating, two mortgages. We've been with the Farm Credit, which essentially credit union for four years, and we're gonna consolidate into one. And, but anyway, hopefully, if silver keeps going up, we won't worry about that either. But in any case, when, in being a veteran, I initially went to a veteran, specific veteran loan, mortgage company, and it it sent their head spinning when I mentioned to them that I was a national. Number one, they didn't know what that was. They couldn't understand it because I was a former army officer. How can you be anything by The US citizen? Right? And, when I mentioned when I tried to explain the nonresident, alien factor to it where I wasn't paying any federal income tax. Of course, they wanna see all your numbers. Right?
And not that it hurt from the standpoint of not having to pay taxes on from the standpoint of your income. It helped. Right? It threw them for a loop because they all I could hear in their in the voice was how in the heck did you do this? Like, they wanted to know how I did it. Right? Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. And because they were wanting to figure out how they could not pay federal income tax. Right? There you go. But in any case, yeah. So anyway, I I'm trying not to make it too long a story, but when they pulled my credit, both my wife and I have what I call zero credit because long time ago, we gave up credit cards and no debt, nothing negative, but it was very low because I have no revolving credit whatsoever. Now my credit union doesn't report my payments, which is really good because I wouldn't ended up going back to them because they already have established credit, but they wanted they wanted to understand how I was a nonresident alien. So I provided my affidavit. I provided them copy of my notice to the IRS. I showed them my w two's, not showing any, federal income tax being withheld. And I I think they're just floored. They can't it's almost unbelievable to them because it's no one no one's ever done this with them. But, anyway, I just wanted to bring that up because it's kind of coincidental you're talking about this right when we're going through it working with these mortgage folks. Anyway, sorry.
[01:10:18] Unknown:
Dave, you know, and I we've explained it on the show here before. We got an expert, miss Julie, here with us. It's Herb Ballywick. Yep. Do you how mortgages are structured? I mean, it is really insidious. They set this up. First of all, before, the bankruptcy, we didn't have any thirty year mortgages. I don't believe they were all ten years, and they were mostly carried by the bank that it was issuing the credit. That's Jimmy Stewart's It's a Wonderful Life where the people in the community make the deposits. They turn around, loan the deposits out. Well, it's a whole different animal now. K? And in this thirty year loan era, what they do, Mary, is I'm I'm sure you don't know this, but it's just when you sign that promissory note, that mortgage is structured, let's say, over thirty years.
For the first fifteen years, you hardly pay any of the amount that they loaned you, that you created when you signed the note. And, like, you may just be paying 25¢ on the principal. The whole rest of your payments for fifteen years at least are mostly principal. And and no. Excuse me. Interest. You pay off the interest out front, then in the last fifteen years, it tapers into the, principal. That's why you can pay an extra payment a year Out of twelve months, you just pay an extra payment, and you'll drop that loan to a fifteen year loan, in essence, because any extra principal payments are then taken to the back end of the loan after you've paid the monthly payment with the with the interest involved for them, the vigorous, as they call it. Then you just once a year throw in an extra payment, and then it goes right back to the back of that loan and come straight off the principal, reducing your principal amount by that much, and that shortens the term of the loan. The whole thing, knowing they know that the average, mortgagee only stays in a house seven years.
And so all they're doing is just getting seven years pure ass interest.
[01:12:40] Unknown:
It was, yeah, it was originally thirty year mortgage. And, yeah, I knew that that you don't even touch the principal, and it's the same with the car note. So, like, we have a truck, which $20.26 is my last payment, for the truck. But what I did was with the truck is I I split it in half. So instead of paying once a month on the truck payment, I split that payment in half. So the first half goes to the to the interest, the second half goes to the principal
[01:13:10] Unknown:
to build up the equity within the truck. Oh, so Right. There's some ways paid that off a long time ago. Right. There's some really We don't have more ways anymore. So to fool with it. But most people don't understand what they're getting into. Of course, right now, most people can't buy anything else. Who is trying to say something right there?
[01:13:28] Unknown:
I was just gonna say, Roger, that when you do make those additional payments, you have to instruct them specifically to apply it to the principal because they won't necessarily do that. They'll apply it to the entirety of the loan, which doesn't affect
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the specific that effect. Right?
[01:13:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's gotta be taken straight off the prison. They're gonna do that. You gotta tell them to do it.
[01:13:51] Unknown:
Bunch of banditos. Roger, I've had people I've had people do the very same thing. They paid over a year. I taught them There was a there was a financial guy named Charles j Givens back in the eighties and nineties, and he talked about getting the amortization schedule from your bank on your loan. And he would show you that the difference between how much interest was being taken out of your your payments and how much principal was being applied to the loan. And so what he would teach was like, well, whatever extra money you had, you just take like the next three months worth of principal payments and pay it with your normal payment. And you do that every month, you know.
And I I told a coworker that and they got excited because we we kind of started figuring out what their loan would be. Of course, now we got all kinds of software to do all that for you. But it was gonna shave off many years of of the payments for him. It was gonna really get him down to, like, I think below fifteen years. He was excited. At the end of the year, he gets a he gets a letter from his bank, and they wanna know what do you want us to do with this extra money. And he was furious. So you really gotta do like Dave said, absolutely gotta stay on there. Stay on them and make sure that they're applying it to the balance of your loan, your principal balance, I yield.
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Now we got into Mark. Yes, Larry. Go ahead.
[01:15:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Can you go over again? I don't know if Julie heard it. Didn't we have a a guest on the show one time? And I can't I think it was a he. He explained how to pay off a mortgage pass. Okay. That's exactly where I was going. Do you remember that that story? Well, it wasn't it wasn't.
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Yes. I do. And that's what I was ironically about to bring up, because I mentioned it to one of the guys. Remember the guy that was on here said he never wanted to see me again? He was a real estate professional in Virginia. And I sat down and tried to explain this to him at lunch. They'd never heard of it before. Okay. Me either up to that point. Ebert is the guy that brought it forward to us. He used to sell this to people evidently a couple of decades ago, and it depends on what type of mortgage you get. And it's who and it is in the contract who assigns per principal prepayments.
If you make a principal prepayment, which is what we're talking about. Right, pay an extra payment a year, etcetera. If you make an extra principal prepayment, who determines where that goes? And evidently, it's in contracts. Okay? And if you can find one that allows you to assign principal prepayments instead of the financial institution, you got something going. Because what you do is let's say there's 360 payments in a thirty year mortgage. You're gonna go into that mortgage and find early on. I think you gotta pay one payment first of full, but you can go forward from there and find out, like, payment number two or number three and look on the amortization schedule.
And that payment only includes, let's say, 50¢ worth of interest or the principal. K? And so you prepay that specific slice of the 360 degree bread, if you wanna look at it that way. Of these 360 slices, you go in and pay that slice. And what you do is you pay the, you only pay the 50¢. And they haven't gotten there. You know, with interest, the reason interest is always charged in arrears. Rent is always charged out front. And the reason is they can't charge you interest on something you hadn't used yet. K? So interest is always paid in arrears.
And as you hadn't reached that third payment yet, so you just go in and pay the 50¢ and it wipes that payment out. And you can knock a knock a mortgage down to nothing and save a ton of money or any other loan if it's got that clause in it the way I understand it.
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That's correct. As long as it doesn't have a prepayment or early payment penalty. Yeah. You know, you can certainly do that. Hey, Roger. This is William.
[01:18:22] Unknown:
Hey, William. Hey, buddy. How are we doing? Hey.
[01:18:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to pipe up. I've got a, first lien HELOC, home equity line of credit on the first lien position. And, I'm on track to pay off my mortgage in about five years.
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Okay. Something along the line.
[01:18:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It's, it's an alternative to a mortgage. So, basically, the bank will lend you in a line, 90% of the appraised value of your home. And then, and then you only pay interest on the portion of the line that's outstanding. And, basically, you just use a line of credit to pay off your mortgage or to pay for your house, and, the bank holds it in the first lien position.
[01:19:08] Unknown:
Well, the first thing is they don't loan you money. You do you loan them the access to the process when you sign that promise. Right. K. Right. But yeah. I guess there's some ways to deal with this. You can go find private money for a mortgage too. If you don't wanna go through a bank, whatever you got in your, you might not have past tax returns or whatever. You can go find private money for that too. In other words, I'll let's do that. Yeah. You do that? Yeah. I had to do I had to do that. I had to do that for, about two or three years
[01:19:41] Unknown:
until I would qualify for a mortgage because, I I was living on family property and I had a farm and black Angus beef cows. And, so all the income that I had, they were from my little business and then I would write it off. And then what was left, I would write off on the farm. So I really didn't have a whole lot of income, that was taxable. And, and the bank, they don't look at they don't look at your income. They look at your taxable. So Yeah.
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That's first thing they ask for, isn't it?
[01:20:13] Unknown:
Yep. What what's your AGI?
[01:20:15] Unknown:
Yeah. And, of course, all monetary system is structured by them on this, and they know how to lock you right in there. K?
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Yep.
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But best thing is all I can say. Well, that's good. Thank you, William. Good to hear you. Good good connection today. The other thing that you can you might wanna do, and I would imagine if you've got a finite amount of currency, whether you're gonna pay off your debts and be debt free or invest that in something like Bitcoin, gold, or silver. And I guess that's your choice. But, being out of debt is a really big you know, they can only control people two ways, by debt or by force. And they've chosen debt, obviously. So, that's what we do. We we relieve you from that. If you're new and listening, what we, in essence, do when you boil it down is the big thing we do is we unhitch you from the debt wagon.
You're no longer having to pull that debt wagon of this prosecuted. Fraudulent debt. Yes, Joan. How are you today?
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Great. Did you and Mark hey, Mark. Did y'all say that I mean okay. Maybe you didn't say it, so I'm just gonna ask a question. Is it possible to get a mortgage, where the part of, that what you want to do, what you tell the banker what I tell the banker would be, okay. I want it set up so that all my payments are going toward interest I mean, a principal? All my payments are going toward principal?
[01:21:58] Unknown:
Your extra payments. You wanna make sure that all your extra payments are going to principals. Yep. And I would say follow-up in three months and and make sure that that they're doing so.
[01:22:10] Unknown:
And ask them if they've got a con a mortgagee or an underwriter with that ability in the contract where you can assign future principal payments.
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K?
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Uh-huh.
[01:22:28] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Yep. Hey. I doubt you'll find one, but you might. Okay? I don't know. I don't know how this is. I've never even heard of it, before Hebrew brought it up that day. It took me a little while to get my arms around it, quite frankly, and understand it. But it's, Well, what if
[01:22:46] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am? They sell your more okay. When they sell okay. Because my son bought a house a couple he it's unheard of that a 23 21 year old kid buys a house. But he thought it was cheaper to buy than pay rent to somebody, and he'd rather own it someday. But they sold his mortgage, like, three times. Sure. That's that And each mortgage company they sell it to each mortgage company they're selling it to, his payment is now on top of the taxes. For a small two bedroom house is, like, for $950. He only paid 82,000 for the house.
I mean, it's like they can't like, you didn't contract with these people. You contracted with the original mortgage company. So how can they get away with that? I yield. Well, that's the whole 2,008
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scam. They're, I guess, still trying to figure out with how they assign these mortgages and the tranches, and why didn't they change them at the local level where they have to, and why weren't those taxes paid, who owes those taxes when they did do it. There's all kinds of crap still wrapped up in that to my understanding, Mary. I just don't have any direct answers for you. I have very little expertise in that area. It's a big scam. It's more you know, I don't know if I told you this or not. You heard this. I had a Jewish roommate for five years. He was my boss at the Art Institute of Atlanta. Good guy.
And when he moved, he had left all a bunch of crap in his basement like other people did in my basement. And so when I was gonna sell the house, I had to clean all that up, and I was looking through the it was an old set of encyclopedias. He he was born and raised in Brooklyn, and, his parents had bought him years ago when he was young for the Internet. And, they were from background eternal last century. And, so, therefore, they had not taken over the publishers and altered everything. Well, I was sitting there, and I always look at either resident or Jew in in those two words keywords.
So I looked under Jew. There's about 30 pages in there. Boy, I wish I'd saved that volume because I don't remember what all they said. But I do remember this, Mary. The Jews were hated in Russia for stealing people's houses. Yep. Same bunch, same thing over and over and over and over again. That's him. K. So that's, the best answer I can give you. Who else has got something along these lines? Are you wanna change something or whatever? There's somebody right there. Sounds like is that sketch?
[01:25:36] Unknown:
Yep. And, I think the term is securitization is what they're doing. And, yes, it is kind of illegal because they don't have the original note. But, I did wanna mention you mentioned Tom Shaw. He wrote two books or Yeah. Two manuals. One, the top secret banker's manual and also another paper called American voters versus the banking cartel or something like that. And I put them in the chat. And an other comment, you mentioned Nepal. Yes, sir. And guess who visited Nepal from the state department that's known for causing problems two years ago?
[01:26:23] Unknown:
Victoria. Newland. Newland. Newland went over there? Yeah. Well, it's probably two years ago. Backwards. Okay, William. I'm sure her fingers are in it somewhere. Oh, that's a bitch. You need Victoria and her real name is Noodleman. Victoria Yes. Noodleman. They were from the Ukraine, and her whole family are devout Trotskyites.
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Yep. Yep. And I'm sure they I mean, it it it involved, the in the the what's it called? The, media, not the the telephone media. And Oh, social media.
[01:27:06] Unknown:
Well, what's happened is media. Yes. They have cut that off is what really caused this. Finally, the country under some duress, and they cut off all social media. That's what caused this full blown thing is my understanding.
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Yes. Yes. And she's very good at using the power to get involved with the social media to overthrow countries, I believe.
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Yeah. She's a a little Jewish. See you next Tuesday.
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And one last thing. France is cook France is breaking out with a new new, protest called block everything, and they're in the streets right now.
[01:27:50] Unknown:
Well, just like I said, so we're leading up to something like we were a couple years ago. You got France there. You got England coming up Saturday. There's no telling what other capitals of Europe may join in with all this. But we're in really interesting times, folks. Really interesting times.
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Yep. Might end.
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Yep. Alright. Who else got yes. There's a comment right there. Is that Tom d?
[01:28:17] Unknown:
No. Hey, Roger. This is Wayne up in Texas. Hi, Wayne. Hey, buddy. Yeah. Thanks. I've taken the call. I was just gonna chime in on a couple of things here. Number one, I know there's a lot of good documentaries out there, but I would highly recommend folks go back to that great taking documentary. Yeah. It was done by David Webb. And he also did a couple great interviews with ITM trading with a lady named Daniella Cambone where they kinda cut down some of the they cut it down to the basics about what's going on. But, I just feel it's so important because as we anybody had studied this, it seems now that, a lot of our investments, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, if it's held by your securities firm in street name, it's no longer you don't have legal title anymore.
You're just what's called a beneficial owner. If they pledge, if they loan out that collateral or monetize in some way, if there's a problem, you're going to lose a ton of money because you're not going to get it back. It might take a few years, but if ever. And I just think that documentary really opened the eyes of a lot of people because I know Andy Shekman's talked about it, Bill Holter, everybody that's in the forefront of what's going on here, they all know, the ramifications of this particular type of technique that they can pull on us. And I'm not sure if a lot of people know that. You see the, Bill Holter interview on, Chihuahua, Sunday? Not yet. I I pretty much looks at everything he does because, again, he he and Sheckman are way ahead of the curve and I would recommend to folks stay away from some of these folks like this, Jeff Berwick and others. All they're gonna do is distract you and talk about conspiracies and all that crap. The main thing now is protecting your money and that's why again understanding the ramifications of great taking could very well let's save folks a ton of money. The other issue was that bank bail ins like you've talked about, people need to realize it's the same principle. You give bank your money, you give the bank your money Again, it's no longer yours. You know, you're not the legal owner. They they are the you're just now a beneficial owner, and it's very, very critical
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to what, folks are looking for. And the way I understand it, Wayne, there's the derivatives that have prop that situation up. When you put your money in a bank, they've got these banks in total and debt levered up with all these derivatives. I liken a derivative to a seesaw in the child playground when you're young. And the up part is connected to the the down part is connected to the bank. And so when this thing flips, the bank's gonna take all that through the derivatives, and they're gonna issue you certificates of a worthless bankrupt bank.
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That's exactly right. That documentary?
[01:31:13] Unknown:
Do that kind, sir?
[01:31:15] Unknown:
The The Great Taking to watch? The Great Taking by David Webb.
[01:31:20] Unknown:
Yeah. He he was interviewed about a year ago or something. Right? Yeah. I'm sure you could find it in a search.
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I heard And and the original the original documentary is a little bit long. That's why I kinda, pushed folks towards, ITM trading, Daniella Camboni. She's, again, interviewed him two or three times, and it kinda narrow down the focus of what what's going on to make it understandable for a lot of folks. But, I think it's one of the most significant documentaries that's out there now. And the other ones mentioned earlier are great for historical purposes, but the great taking is here and now. This is what's gonna slam dunk a lot of people.
[01:31:59] Unknown:
And they basically moved everything under where they've got like, the like Wayne said, you've got beneficial ownership. They've got real ownership. And when it comes to a gelding time at the Okay Corral, your nuts are gonna get cut off. Yeah, Julie? When somebody's trying to say something.
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Yeah. David Webb hooked up with, Jared Griffith, and, he came over to The United States. He lives, I think, in Sweden or Switzerland.
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To Are you American though?
[01:32:40] Unknown:
He's American. Yes. But he moved he moved out of out of the country, I think. But he came back in the country to, go to every state and, try and get people to change the UCC article eight where there is in, in this every state legislation, there's an exception, for property rights and that they can take them, if there's, bankruptcy. And he tried to come in and and lobby the, or help people lobby the legislators to get that exception out. So they the the homeowners were first in line, and I don't I think he's only accomplished it in, like, one or two states. But, and on the, ITM trading video, g f g w Griffith was supposed to be on that show with him, but somehow he got canceled. But it was interesting that there they hooked up together trying to change the legislation in every state Yeah. Under the UCC a article eight. I yield.
[01:33:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger, Sketch is right on that because, one of the interviews I heard with David Webb, he and his cohorts went went to the Tennessee legislature. And they had some folks that were really understanding what was going on, and they tried to push some legislation through there. But the banking industry and their lawyers came down so hard on them, they in effect threatened to screw up the whole banking environment in Tennessee if they were trying to do this. So that's how serious it's gotten that the banking industry is bringing in heavy hitters from their, you know, New York or wherever, and they're just laying it out saying, hey. You guys go down this road. You're gonna be very, very sorry as far as your banking institutions.
[01:34:37] Unknown:
Well, we're we're real close to something. Would you agree with that, Wayne? I don't know before the end of the year or not, but we're real close to something financially catastrophic, I feel.
[01:34:50] Unknown:
Well, I think, again, if they cut the rates here, maybe, maybe not, I think that could start a real, you know, big time issue where it's gonna really start to get bigger and bigger because again I think it's going to push precious metals up and everything else and it could start to impact some other issues. And I don't know the whole thing behind it, but I think from what I understand it could be very detrimental to the industry in general. But here's the thing too Roger, the central banks around the world are not buying Bitcoin and other digital air like Bill Miller calls it. They're buying gold and silver to back up their reserves.
So if you're gonna do anything, do what the smartest people in the world are doing. Okay? And, basically, I think that's, you know, it was a real clue for me when I heard that. Well, you know, one of the things I forget, was it Catherine Austin fifth? She's fairly
[01:35:48] Unknown:
negative on Bitcoin. And she was bringing up the the black BlackRock and think opened up some sort of a Bitcoin ETF relatively recently. And when they put the prospectus out in the fine print, they can print more than than 21,000,000 Bitcoin. Yeah. Create. They can create better word. They can create more than what is publicly said is is a ceiling now. And that was in the prospectus where BlackRock got a Bitcoin ETF. I I believe they got it opened. Of course, they did.
[01:36:30] Unknown:
So anyway Exactly. Exactly. And and one thing about, you know, this subject, Roger, that that what Shkmeid talked about that really, hit me was when you talk about precious metals, it's historical, it's been in value for centuries, it has universal acceptance, you can go anywhere and trade what you have, it retains purchasing power like you were talking about and the big, big thing is no counterparty risk. If you have it in your possession, in privacy, yes. But again, the risk part is everything because everything folks have in the Internet or in banking whatever, there's a fair amount of counterparty risk there. And like that Bank of Oklahoma Bank in Oklahoma that went belly up, I think some folks there had a head haircut because FDIC didn't cover everything, and they had to take a hit on what they had higher balance than 250,000.
[01:37:25] Unknown:
I hadn't heard one of the banks in okay went up belly up.
[01:37:30] Unknown:
Well, it was a few months ago. Mark may know about it, but it didn't
[01:37:34] Unknown:
I I didn't know about the a few months ago. I do know that, back during the savings and loan debacle, we had a a big savings and loan bank here in Poncey that failed. And,
[01:37:47] Unknown:
there's a lot of people that lost money in that as well. Oh, yeah. I can look it up. I I know for a fact that there was one. And, again, it was you know, they're not they're gonna they're not gonna publicize what's going on here. You know? They're not gonna when the big banks go down, they're, you know, they're not gonna say a whole lot about it. People gonna have to do some digging. Let me tell you a little story about that savings and loan fee fiasco.
[01:38:09] Unknown:
That was Silverado. If you remember, it was one of the bush people on that one, I believe, in Colorado. The radio station that I started at in Panama City was called WDLP. It was a a a 5,000 watt day timer down on the low end of the dial, had good range. And, so I worked there with a guy who was the son of a gal who lived down the street from my mother when she grew up. So they we knew each other. And his name was AD, and his initials, that's what they called him. Anyway, he worked through a good jock. And years later, I crossed paths with him, and he had bought he had bought that radio station, WDLP. They traded it since to the college down there and took got their FM, and the college got this good AM low end dial signal. Anyway, he was telling me he said, yeah. Well, we bought it out of the savings and loan fiasco.
Or they were they were paying on it and had bought it, and then that happened. Well, they got contacted by a representative out of Dallas, Wayne, over there by you, who came down there to talk to him and said, well, look. Here's just keep paying your payments. And they go, well, we need a payment book. You know? Okay. Well, we'll send you one. And so he leaves and their never book never came. And so they went a little ways longer, and they started saying, well, in this they'd put a enclosures. This is the last payment I'm paying unless I get a coupon book. And it never came, and they never paid any more payments, and nobody ever came to them. They got the damn radio station virtually for free.
[01:39:52] Unknown:
Wow. Amazing. Amazing. So I'll jump off. Right? Just wanted to, make a couple points here and then, let the folks get in. So thank you. Okay. Always great to hear your voice, Wayne.
[01:40:04] Unknown:
Julie's gonna get you. What what you got, girl?
[01:40:09] Unknown:
I just wanted to say that, you know, Wayne's correct. We are not gonna know what they're doing. I mean, don't forget during the Great Depression, you know, Roosevelt had a huge problem. He had his income tax revenue was declining, but the debts were soaring. And what did he do? He closed all the banks. He took everyone's gold out of safe deposit boxes. And for every, one ounce of gold, he gave them 20 paper dollars. And then what does he do? He issues an executive order and says, oh, our gold is no longer valued at $20 an ounce. It's gonna be $35 an ounce now. People were outrageous because, you know, he only paid them 20. So he basically, you know, devalued the currency by 75%.
And the next year, all the people took the hit with the inflation, that occurred. And, so, you know, we don't know what these banks are capable of doing. And and and number two, if you look at the Genius Act, specifically says in that Genius Act who's gonna be buying The United States debt, it's gonna be the banks. They're gonna in order to issue stablecoins, they're gonna be backed by United States Federal Reserve notes and by US Treasury bills and bonds.
[01:41:22] Unknown:
Yeah. But Roosevelt didn't do all that. His Jew money handlers behind him directed him to do all that. Well, yeah. I that's the same thing going on here too, though. They are all these all handlers, these are all puppets for his English. Of course. Alright. Who was trying the guy trying to get something in there?
[01:41:39] Unknown:
Roger.
[01:41:40] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, there was a guy trying to say something I thought. Maybe not. Yes, Joan?
[01:41:46] Unknown:
Roger, I wanted to ask Dwayne if that Daniella lady at ITM is an agent that can that we can buy gold and silver coins from. Carbon carbon
[01:42:00] Unknown:
I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are.
[01:42:05] Unknown:
Yes. Just to answer the question, yes, ITM is very reputable. They've been around a long time and they had Lynette Zhang, as their main spokesman for YouTube, for quite a while, but she left on and went on her own. But I do know that people that I've referred to, they're very happy with their service and from the beginning to the end, everything was exactly as they promised and the folks were happy with their purchase. So I might Joan, I might be able to get you a contact as I recall from there, but, I have to look it up.
[01:42:41] Unknown:
I'd say her name is Daniella. What's her last name? No. Daniella Cambione,
[01:42:47] Unknown:
c a m b I o n e. She's just the main interviewer that brings on she brings on some great interviews, Deborah Griffin. She's had them all on. And, but as far as on trading and purchasing, there's other folks there to handle that. And, like I say, these guys are out of Phoenix, Arizona, and, they're very solid. They're one of the more solid companies I've come across.
[01:43:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Maybe Lynette Zhang can hook up with Owen Shroyer and start a network. Go ahead, Joan.
[01:43:16] Unknown:
I just wanna say yes. I I I I have an agent there at ITM. Thank you.
[01:43:22] Unknown:
Okay. Good deal. Alright, Joan. Your phone's particularly good on Fidelity today. Yes. Sketch out.
[01:43:32] Unknown:
Yes. I I saw a, short excerpt from one of the financial guys in China, and he said that what America's going to do is they're gonna put that $35,000 in debt into, like, stablecoins and detonate it.
[01:43:54] Unknown:
I thought that was very interesting. Could be. Don't know. They got they got two. One's backed by gold, and one's backed by bonds, my understanding. So, anyway, what what else can we cover here at the last show? It's, it's a heck of a time for us, folks. We don't, by any chance, have any new students that have been lurking there with a question, do we? I'm obligated to ask. Nope. Fell on deaf ears again. Well, if you're out there and you're lurking and you're you're scared, you can ask any of these other people. There have been no direct or indirect consequences from them filing this paperwork and declaring their freedom because there can't be.
And the reason there can't be is because what settled laws, who you choose to give you rights and owe duties to is your choice And your choice alone. You've been honed but but but what? Boonswoggled. Boonswoggled. And that's the one I was looking for, orange swoggled into volunteering into this mess with these split tongue devils, and we're telling you the good news is you can get your ass out. It's easy. It's inexpensive. It's nonconfrontational, and it's a there ain't very many things guaranteed in this world. This is death taxes and you get out of slavery. Yes, ma'am. What you got?
[01:45:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna let I just posted in the FCC chat, another book by Tom Schaff. It's called cancel bank loans without going to court. So for anybody who's interested, it's in the SEC.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
I was going to say Jim Ram had one of the some of his books or all of them and had signed a do not disclose and honored it. But somewhere in Jim's estate, whoever got into that got ahold of those.
[01:45:58] Unknown:
So anyway And what does How do you spell his last name? R a a m?
[01:46:03] Unknown:
Oh, Ram. No. R a m m e r m one m. He was one of our broadcasters. He followed me for years here. Big longevity guy. Had his own health thing over on frequency, well, some radio network, and, he just passed away about six months ago, unfortunately.
[01:46:26] Unknown:
Good guy with The last name is r a m, and he wrote books?
[01:46:30] Unknown:
No. No. He did radio programs. He had Tom Shoff's books that he had purchased Oh. A while back. That's what I was trying to say. And I don't know. I didn't have any connection with his wife. She didn't really caught into a lot of the stuff we do is what I kinda took it. But regardless, he had those books.
[01:46:55] Unknown:
I think Brent is trying to get his hands on that library.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
Your dyihelp.com,
[01:47:02] Unknown:
I think, is his website. Yeah. Good guy. We miss we miss him. He's a retired, sergeant from, the period of time, his career in police department there in Ohio. So, yeah, we we miss him. Where else can we, go here? Somebody got comment or question. Been a good show, especially on this monetary, financial system. I don't think you can discuss it enough or understand it, well, enough, really, but the whole thing's based on what our slavery. So this and people say what happens when you you know, I hear that question. Well, what happens when you become a national? Well, it releases you from all federal regulatory authority and state regulatory authority, except for those two sections of the internal revenue code. Obscure.
[01:47:57] Unknown:
Really, only one.
[01:47:58] Unknown:
So, anyway, that's what it does. Okay. Hold on, Julie. Julie. Yes?
[01:48:04] Unknown:
Statutes too?
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Text you out from under No. There because there's no. Because there are some statutes that are legitimate that came over positive law statutes in the, USC, universe, United States code. Well, those are taken directly from the statutes at large, so they're constitutional. And, yeah, those could apply to you, but not the regulations. It's that series of books under the statutes, the regulations that are promulgated by the agencies that we remove ourselves from.
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What about policies?
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Well, those are those are policies. Regulations, rules, policy, public policy, those are all the same thing.
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It's so it's okay.
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Okay. Thank you. No. Hold it, Joan. I want a follow-up question. This is really important that you and the others understand. There's three sets of law books in the law library. The statutes at large, the organic law supposedly assumed to be constitutional. The United States code, which is Roman civil law infusing the UCC in there, which some of it is constitutional and other ones don't apply to you, like title 26. It doesn't apply to you at all anymore except for those two sections. And then underneath that, they take those statutes and promulgate regulations further.
Okay? So those are the three. The code of federal regulations is one. Those are, regulations or rules or policies promulgated by the administrative state, the deep state. The middle set of law books, The United States code, which can be positive law and can be nonpositive law, and then the original statutes at large where everything is consumed to be constitutional, presumed, k, until proven otherwise. So what you we release from are those regulatory statements, thousands, tens of thousands of pages of regulations, which are promulgated by unelected bureaucrats.
And they take the law the legislative per product, the laws passed by the legislator to go through these law books, and then they, at the end, take and reinterpret them according to subject matter and promulgate regulations they attach to the slaves like you used to be, hopefully.
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Capiz? Okay. So I just don't know, yeah, about the slave. Yeah. But so policies, I just don't know the difference in definitions between policies and regulations. Policy.
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Public Well, all these regulations, Joan, are public policy. They're they're regulations promulgated by unelected bureaucrats, reinterpreting legislation, and applying it to the serfs. That's what it is.
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So so so so nationals
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are under What they're doing is changing the labels here. That's what's confusing you. They're all the same thing.
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So nationals are under some policies and not under other policies? No. Not Joan.
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Policies are only instituted by through the administrative state, to my knowledge. K? That's all the agencies. Their pod their the if you go into the federal register, you'll see that there's rules. There's regulations. There's several different types of regulations. We've go gone over that in-depth here a number of times. There's ones that are substantive. There's ones that are interpretive. There's ones that are just statements of policy internally for the agency. In inter interpretive regulations are also only interagency. It's only those last ones, substantive regulations, which have to go through a whole another sequence of due process inside the federal register in the agency called notice and comment.
So they've got a whole another due process level built into these substantive regulations because they apply to everybody. Now those are really public policy because they're truly for everybody. K? They have to go through a totally different type of promulgation process before they can apply to everybody. So there's just it's all public policy here.
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Okay.
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Thank you. Yes. Who else? Rod. Yes. Mer. Let me go with the female sketch. You've been in two or three times. Yes, ma'am?
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Yes, Myr. I just wanted to put a little point on here. Jim Ma'am, passed on Mother's Day, May 11. He had been, declining in health and, his wife, being a a nurse for many decades, and the pastor, they insisted he go into the hospital. And so he died the next day. So, there you go. But, they said it was congestive heart failure, and, perhaps so. But there were there are some other things that went on. But, anyway but what I want to say about him is his fairness. Okay. He would present things and, you know, he'd lived in the in Rolex, things that which really did make him healthy before when he was sick, but he had a tendency to kind of experiment on himself a little bit sometimes. Like Wallach And and as a police
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Wallach probably put a decade on his life. Go ahead, Myr.
[01:54:13] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, you know about that. Yeah. But the thing I found really interesting was when there's a lot of this hoopla and censoring going on, he ref he just calmly refused to be censored and started doing his own on broadcast.
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You know, he left to give his up. He was not censored. Not him.
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Not him. Not him.
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Pardon me? Yeah.
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Nobody Not him. Censored. Nobody was censored. There was an individual that continually caused problems, and he was kicked out. Nobody stopped any information from flowing except that was associated with him. He was the problem here.
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Well, I'm sure glad that Jim Rand picked up the ball because we've learned a lot from this individual. So Okay. And, Whatever. It's it's If you keeps being a keeps being a good thing just like you're doing here is a good thing. But I I something that eats at me and you're gonna hate me for this because I'm the, you know, the people that'll work with him that he doesn't shit on and step all over. He can maybe get his message out. Go ahead.
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Okay. Well, I don't I don't see that happening anyway. Big different personalities. Me. I was the first one it happened to. Paul English was the second one it ever happened to. And if you can imagine Paul English getting unbelievably upset, that happened. That's the only time I've ever seen him upset ever. Okay? Well, there's another name here that's
[01:55:45] Unknown:
there's another name here, a publisher that we're not gonna discuss, but he was the impetus in the problems with everything, and he's still doing
[01:55:54] Unknown:
things that anything to do with me and my problem and my problem was very similar to Paul's, except not as bad. It's okay.
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Personal testimony. I'm saying the thing. Yeah, I'm saying the thing with Paul was, it related to this publisher. But, anyway
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Good.
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You know, I'm the school mom, and you're gonna hate me for it as usual, but I can't stand the way you pronounce that word.
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What?
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Promo it's promulgate.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
I Promogate. Well, I'm gonna continue to pronounce it the way I always have. Promo gated. Promo gated. Same thing. Did you say it again? Aluminium. Aluminum. Aluminum. Okay.
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Uh-huh. You were saying you were saying promo gate, and you changed it. Right? After I said it, you said promo. Yep. So thank you very much. Uh-huh. See, I I look I look at all you guys as being professors and being very valuable whether or not you're at loggerheads with each other.
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Okay. Aluminum, aluminum. What's the difference?
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It's the, British pronunciation you got there going on. Yeah.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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How did he do you wrong? How did he do you wrong? Now you had a great phone call. You had a wonderful phone connection a minute ago, and now you sound like you're in China. What changed?
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Costa Rica has different wavelengths, I guess. I don't know.
[01:57:27] Unknown:
Wait. Are you on wireless? You're on wireless? No. Joan, let's drop it. Alright? Thank you.
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Okay. So,
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can you hear me better now, Roger? No. Not really, but I can hear you. Go ahead. Okay.
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Okay. Well, my Myr told me to drop it. So but I'll drop it. What I had asked you was, what how did that person do you wrong?
[01:57:53] Unknown:
And but you don't wanna answer. No. Not we're I'm not going in the story. We're about the end of the show. That's water under the bridge. I've never been treated by anybody in my adult life like that guy treated me. After I'd been over backwards and given him a year and a half of of airtime, offered to teach him, asked him if he'd like to be on my network, and then he just totally shoved it up my ass, bro. That's what he did. Never been treated by anybody in my adult life like that guy treated me. That's why I have so much animus about him. Okay? And he did the same thing to Paul English.
Yes, Julie. Please don't be angry. We love you here. For god's sake, she split up Giuseppe and Scorpio. Go ahead, Jean. We're here together now. It's important that we're here together now. We all love you, and you don't need to get upset because we treasure you. So please don't get upset. I wanna I wanna take your I'm just trying. I'm gonna tell you something else about this bastard. He lied about my work and me on Jim Ram's radio show when one of the students called in and asked him something. A direct outright lie.
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Okay? So Roger. Take all that for whatever reason. Burr.
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Go ahead, Julie. God
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God wins. God wins. And there's a word called karma that I believe in firmly. And so what comes around goes around. I would not wanna be him. And, I would only wanna be you. So now I wanna take your, brain off of that, and I wanna switch subjects here. And I wanna read something from Tom Shaw's book, which is very interesting. I posted it into the chat room, and it's how to get rid of a mortgage without going to court. And here's the introduction. If the government issued cash, should I wait for that to go?
[01:59:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Should I wait for the Well, yeah. Well, let's just go every
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radio concern. We don't have Paul here, but everybody else on all these channels, we love you. Thank you for coming and listening to Roger Sales.
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Well, all I ever do is try and help you guys. I tell you the truth. I don't screw with other people. I I I just try and lay the truth out, And this guy's not like that. I don't know what his problem is, Murr, but he's got a real big problem underneath.
[02:00:18] Unknown:
I promise you. You know what, Roger? Okay. Yep. You know what, Roger? I don't even know who you're talking about, and I don't wanna know who who the person Well, I I've got no clue about that. His name is deliberately
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his name is deliberately not been mentioned. K?
[02:00:33] Unknown:
Good. Good. So I don't need to know about it. And I Anyway.
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Yep. That's a lot water along into the bridge. Thank goodness. If you wanna go follow him, go ahead. K? But, I I I don't I'm not sure the guy in the still NSA, actually, Murr, tell you the truth. But be it as it may, he ain't in my life anymore, which is fine with me. So if you're a regular listener, sorry to get off on all that. Some of you people just insist on opening this crap. Okay? We'll see you tomorrow. Thank you, Mark, for joining us. And, today, sorry, we didn't get more of your input. And, we'll be back tomorrow on Thursday and see what happens between now and then.
I'd have new students. Yep. Who knows? Julie's gonna read us something out of Tom Schaff's handbook, and if you miss it, well, too bad. And we'll see you soon.
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A message out of his book, cancel cancel bank loans without going to court. If the government issued cash, United States note interest free like president Andrew Jackson, president Abraham Lincoln, and president John F. Kennedy, the national debt could be zero, your personal income tax could be zero, and the average American American could have very little, if any, debt. History shows President Kennedy was assassinated within a few months of issuing United States notes. Upon his death, president Jack Johnson immediately replaced The United States notes with Federal Reserve notes. If president Kennedy had lived and continued printing United States notes interest free, Tens of trillions of dollars the banks now have would be in the hands of American citizens.
If he had lived, the national debt could be zero and your personal income tax cut to zero. This book is very compelling. Yep. You can go ahead. And everybody who wants to try to learn this, definitely, download that book, print it out, and read it, and let's all see if we can all come to some sort of, format or template where we can get, the remainder of our mortgages canceled. Hi, Yield. I don't I love you, brother. You okay. Well, you thank you, Julie.
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Well, I got two, three things I wanna say. Tom Shoff had a lot of the keys. I I don't know what has happened to him. He was gonna move to Arizona and get out of Chicago. This was years ago, decades ago. So, anyway, his stuff still floating around. It's very valuable and viable. Otherwise than that, let's see what else. What else? What else? Anybody got something else for me?
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Yeah. I got my question. Well, you you mentioned when you're talking to Joan about canon law, I mean, you Roman law. Now is that is canon law the same thing, and did it derive from the canonization?
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Yes. Yes. Because it's yes. Because that's what he did. He, formed the they had that law built and then turned that eventually turned into the Catholic church. And that was the law, and they only spoke it in in in the way I understand it from what Brent's taught us specifically. They only did everything in Latin. It was a barrier to the to the normal people, and they were outside dealing with the common law and these ends of common law where they were keeping that system of law alive. But the canon law law is the law of Rome. And that, basically, that's what we've got in that middle set of books. You looked it up one day, it came back, so when did they they start the United States code? You came back and said in the nineteen twenties.
So that was right preparatory to the bankruptcy. They knew what they were doing. It was all set up.
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Yep. Yep. Alright. Thank you. Yes.
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Hey, Roger.
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Hey, Bob.
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Yeah. Going back to words with this may clarify something for you, Joan, and other listeners as far as that goes. When you go back to the root word of policy, it's Polis. It's city.
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Right.
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So I don't really think in common law you could have a policy. It it would it would it would just be contrary by definition. You know? Yeah. You could have you could you see my point? The word metropolitan, the word policy, the word police,
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all of these words go back to city. Yeah. So nationals are not on so nationals are not under policy.
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That would be the theory.
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Well, I don't know if the theory is Because by its very definition
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by the very definition, policy is associated with city, I e civil law,
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not common law.
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That's what I thought.
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There you go.
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Okay. Keep it simple. Okay. Thank you, Bob. I agree with that. Roger. Try to do it. Is that Scott is that Samuel?
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Yeah, Roger. Hi. Morning. Yesterday after show, we sort of got into this. But earlier in this show, we were talking about oil. And, you know, oil and water right now are probably two of the biggest things that are holding up humanity, and this this idea of primary water, I didn't believe when I was looking at what Deborah Tavares had to say to it about it because I'm really not a big fan of hers because she's such a gloom and doom person. But I looked up the guy who was the source of the term. There's a there's a video that everybody should watch if they're interested in this kind of stuff. It his name was doctor Stephen, sir, Stefan Rice, r I e s s, I think. No. R e I s s, I think, and he has a a YouTube video on primary water. This was the guy who coined the term.
He was born in, like, 1898 in Bavaria. He came here after World War two, and he had he was a geologist, and he really understood a different way of things sort of like a Tesla, only in geology. And, he, he said as a as a young boy, he saw some of these early wells that were dug in around the castles in Germany were, you know, guys like Charlemagne, dug 1,000 foot wells, and they're still working today.
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Yikes. That's a long way.
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He gets into this whole point. Things like, the Comstock load was stopped because they hit steam areas down in there scalding water and a lot of water, and this happens to mines all the time. They get flooded out. Yes. And when he was a jolly geologist, he was doing a lot of this work for mines, and he realized if you drill in the wrong place, you're gonna hit water. He started to understand how these natural forming dikes in the earth by, up pushing of the crust, etcetera, cracks and fissures were where you would drill to get primary water. And when when they went into the Comstock load, Sutro dug a four mile tunnel under Mount Davidson to get underneath the shafts and drain that thing.
And they got 4,000,000 gallons a day. I don't think that was from rainwater.
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I think what the most of the production the most of the production of the of the Comstock load was like sludge, wasn't it? They had to go in and figure out how to pull the silver out of the sludge, I believe. You know, we'll know about it. Yeah. In a lot of cases, they Brent will know about it. Go ahead.
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And and Reese discusses in this video, it's like an hour and eleven minutes long, How when the Earth fractures, it it gets if there's the water sources there, it pushes up into the crevices and dissolves the minerals and deposits them in these crevices, in these dike divides. And he says when you drill into that, you know and you know where the fracture is. So he can calculate exactly where to drill. I mean, this goes on and on, but he was actually in Southern California at the time, and some rich Jews in 1958 sent him to Israel to dig in the desert to get water there, and it Ben Gurion told his people, listen to whatever this guy is telling you whether you believe it or not. Right? Because they had tried to dig wells in the desert, and they didn't find crap. Right?
He dug a well that that was a thousand gallons a minute. It was a good supply for, like, a 100,000 people where they had been drilling in that part of the desert and didn't get anything. And then he went and did it in Saudi Arabia. And he in his life, he he did like 800 wells. So I'm pretty convinced that primary water is real. And back to oil, oil is probably also the same thing, except we don't have a guy sharp enough or if the people do know don't wanna hit it. Gotcha. And we drill in the sedimentary basins for oil, and that is probably like he tells how to dig for water.
You want to dig for oil in a different way once you've depleted that surface area that is probably, you know, biomass, created oil. But that's not to say that the Earth isn't shoving it up into that biomass area as well. So
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anyway Julie, did you take this one film to watch?
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Okay. What's the Yeah. Because I know Deborah Tavares. I talk to Deborah Tavares on the phone every day, and she has primary water on her land. So she actually, you know, did that properly with a with a rig. And it just just she has a website called primarywater.org. I yield
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Yep. There you go. Actually, the guy who picked up the the, reins from, Rice or Reese was a gentleman, and and his name is at the end of that video if you watch it, was Palpauer, and he is drilling wells supposedly today. I haven't really looked into him much yet. But the reason we got in this discussion is you could probably buy land where there's no water. But if you knew how to do this drilling, you could probably turn that into an oasis, like, in places like Nevada.
[02:11:47] Unknown:
Make the desert bloom. Yeah. Okay. Cool, Samuel. Who else has got something this morning here in the after show?
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One last Go ahead.
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Go ahead, Ketch. Ketch.
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I just wanted to say I came to the conclusion the other day that the administrative state's only purpose was to extract wealth.
[02:12:11] Unknown:
Well, no. It's to keep you, under control too. I mean, the administrative state is the matrix. What what what did Morpheus say? You can't see it. You can't touch it, but you can feel it. Well, damn. That's true. But what do you feel? You feel this encroaching of public policy, law made by unelected bureaucrats that's applying to you, being applied to you, and that's what you feel. Oh, I can't do this. I can't do that. I might do this. They might come get me here. That's the matrix.
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And the root is the monetary system, I would say, of control. I mean, so we gotta we gotta change that, and things can change.
[02:13:01] Unknown:
Well yeah. And and these guys are losing right now. Don't know what they're gonna do. I'd say also be very aware of any potential false flags. I mean, we're in you talk about false flag territory. Woo hoo. We're there. K? So,
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I'd like to ask Julie a question. Does does she know who who dug Deborah as well?
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I do not. I used to know that, and I don't know anymore. And I do not believe that that person, is still living, because he was older than Deborah. And Deborah is, I think, now in her I had to guess her seventies. So, but now This
[02:13:47] Unknown:
this this Paul Prower supposedly has a primary water institute?
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I think that might have been who dug hers. I can't remember. That name rings a bell.
[02:13:58] Unknown:
Yeah. He's have you ever watched Rice's film, Tuli? I have. I have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of information there. This guy knew more about this than anybody living. He I mean, he makes a lot of points on the he he said that if the Earth wasn't producing water, the planet would run out.
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Yeah. We have if there is no Yeah. We there is no such thing as a renewable. Deborah tells everybody that all the time. And also, they don't want us to have primary water because then they couldn't poison us the way they do.
[02:14:37] Unknown:
Through that. What what he's the other thing he says in that thing is this is in 1985. He said we were already pumping it out, 10 times faster than it was replacing the groundwater and all these groundwater wells. And he says and as at that cycles, the quality of that water keeps getting dirtier and dirtier and dirtier. Right? He says, like, he saved one of the biggest spring companies in, in Southern California by drilling them, you know, two new wells which are still running at high volumes for forty years. And it's it this water that comes from primary water doesn't have all this surface sediment and contamination in it because it's never been in the oxygen air zone of the of the atmosphere, and it hasn't been oxidized and all kinds of things. So, it it's just a word Yes, everyone. Singing. It it just shows the control of the government. Because this thing about Ben Gurion is really important because he dug that well, and he got a a thousand gallons a minute. And nobody wants to say that's true because what the Israelis did when they were negotiating for water from the Jordan River, they had to say that that well went salty so they could get more out of the Jordan River from Jordan because Jordan was damming it off and stopping it from flowing into Israel.
Good plan. Gets into that in this conversation as well. The the politics of water are probably beyond that of oil. And True. It's just a shame that we don't experiment. I'm gonna definitely look into this poll. Paul,
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Paul, Mark, and see if he's, It's the next big crisis, Samuel. I mean, I heard the other day, they said no more artificial intelligence buildups in the East Coast because it's already taxing the water supply. And that whole thing's gonna do nothing but stress the hell out of that. Okay? So, yeah. Yeah. And What now there was a technology a while back. This guy made a machine that could pull water out of the air like a dehumidifier.
[02:17:00] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. And,
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and the and and the climate that it does the best in is desert.
[02:17:09] Unknown:
I remember that. Yeah. We were I was discussing I was discussing that with, Jimmy the other day too because he's looking at Nevada territory, and I I told him about Jim McKinney. And those those machines you're talking about pull a lot of power. But Jim McKinney, it links them up to one of his, wind turbines or generators and powers them. So at the same time you're getting power, you also and you could be off grid. You're also getting water.
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Yeah. Yeah.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Probably power it with some some solar panels too. Anyway, man, I mean, you know, I'm So if somebody wanted to really entrepreneur
[02:17:52] Unknown:
a a a community that wanted to be off grid grid and self sufficient and get the land for next to nothing, you could start to make the parameters based on where the wind is, and
[02:18:06] Unknown:
that would start to solve a lot of problems. I guess so. I'm not Then you will? In a great place out in the middle of the freeway desert. Go ahead, Julie.
[02:18:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just gonna say Deborah lives totally off grid, totally owes no money for anything. She and even her, stuff that she did for solar, she never used the lithium ion batteries that, you know, the county requires you that can explode. She used something totally different, some sort of gel.
[02:18:37] Unknown:
Yeah. There's gel batteries, but there's the new technology that I like is the silicon salt
[02:18:43] Unknown:
technology, and there's a pump in it. It might have been silicon that she used it. You might be correct on that. I can't remember.
[02:18:49] Unknown:
I thought you remembered everything.
[02:18:56] Unknown:
Well, she does. She does that just doesn't remember that.
[02:19:01] Unknown:
Good. Good, Joan. It's not girl stuff. Ask her. I'll tell you. These girls, they're something.
[02:19:14] Unknown:
Okay. When does a girl wanna know about batteries?
[02:19:17] Unknown:
Batteries. I'm gonna go figure out what's going on in the world. We haven't seen, Joseph, our guy from week before last or whenever it was. He hadn't reappeared, or at least if he is riding the Erie and just sitting there listening, he's not saying anything. We want Todd to get out of the hospital and well again. We miss him. And, everything else is going along pretty good, I guess, except the state of the world, and it's just about to blow up. This Nepal thing, I was totally unaware of it until this morning. But the the video I saw and they got no guns.
Imagine if they had guns. So, anyway alright. Well, I'm a ride off into the, high noon sun then and go see if I can find me some vittles somewhere and, sit back on a lovely Ecuadorian afternoon here in a dry season type day and see what I'm motivated to do. I will look forward to Thank you, Roger. Well, you're very welcome, and I will look forward to spending another couple of hours with you rascals tomorrow. Okay? Because you're my family. Roger. Hell, you're the only people I know I'm saying. Want, I'll send you the video. Samuel, I got more stuff I can look at, man, really.
Oh, I figured you were.
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It's in it's it's in both of the chats, and I could drop it in your email if you wanna hold it there. I got more than I can look at more, honestly.
[02:20:54] Unknown:
So, anyway, I'll, see 09:11 tomorrow. Oh my goodness gracious. Thank you for giving that heads up. I'll think about that between now and then, and I suggest you do the same. Another great opportunity to expose things. Yes. Yes, Samuel. No. This is Michael. Hey, Michael. You sound a little like Samuel. Hi there. We all are both from that part of the country. Well, no. I'm Minnesota, not California. Well, he's from up there too originally. Oh, really? Interesting. Where where did you grow up? Wisconsin?
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I was born in Sheboygan.
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Oh, there you go. Here you go.
[02:21:46] Unknown:
Have you heard the name? This is a guy I'm listening to. His he calls himself the informer.
[02:21:54] Unknown:
His name is Harry Back in the night. Harry re Reems? Harry. I think yeah. I I'm actually Yes. He was around thirty years ago. Would you call him long gone. Would you call him patriot yeah. Would you call him patriot mythology? No. And you know why? Well, I don't know if your book you're reading, but one of the books he wrote was which one are you. Right? Yeah. He understood that. And he's a little short guy. I remember met him one time, maybe, more than once. But yeah. No. He's he's good. He may not I'm listening. He We're doing, but he had a good grasp, if I remember right, on found foundations. And I just remember that title of his book. He's the one that did give a differentiation, like, which person are you?
[02:22:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I'm I'm listening to him or I'm you know, I it's darn near three hour interview with him here, and I'm an hour into it. And it sounds like he had the IRS on their knees.
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You Well, there were there were people that had, you know, had had ways to, attack them. Their their thing isn't totally invulnerable, is vulnerable in some other ways, I guess. The will willfulness defense. You know about that?
[02:23:20] Unknown:
No. But I've heard it. Yeah. Well, no. I'm not an expert, but I've heard you.
[02:23:24] Unknown:
Well, it was a case of, Harry Cheek, Cheek versus US. He was an airline pilot, and he won that case at the Supreme Court on willfulness. In other words, I had studied his willful failure to file. I I it I wasn't willful. I I've gone in and studied. I saw this, this, and this, and so I didn't think I had to file. It wasn't willful that I didn't file. It was you know? And that's he won that argument, and then they quickly shut that down. So there's other ways that people have found. I'm not sure. I don't remember all that Rheem stuff, and this was back when nobody was talking about jurisdiction. They were all talking about taxes.
Tax was the big issue back in that day. So, yeah, go ahead and listen to it. He's a good guy.
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So your method pulling yourself out of the fourteenth amendment is a totally
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As far as I know, I don't know that he did that. I don't think he had a grasp on it. He didn't have that. Well, I don't know. I don't remember. You can find out listening to it, but I don't think he did.
[02:24:31] Unknown:
Yeah. And this method that you're teaching us is you're calling it damn near bulletproof.
[02:24:42] Unknown:
Well, it it appears to be that it didn't come and ding dinged anybody. Alright.
[02:24:47] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. No. I'm just trying to listen to other stuff and, you know, I don't hear I don't nobody talks of IR I come on the show. I'll listen to you, Roger. Right? No one talk we don't talk about IRS. Right? I'm I'm I'm looking for I'm looking for IRS material. Right?
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Well, you're not gonna find a lady or source. Lady
[02:25:10] Unknown:
comes out, Roger. Lady comes on the show, and you defer her to Mark, and we don't get to hear anything out of her story. She goes away.
[02:25:19] Unknown:
On the specific IRS stuff, I you want me to lie to you? I'm not gonna lie to you. If I don't know it or understand it, I'm gonna defer to Mark. Mark's on top of it more, understands it more, and that's why. I'm not trying to cheat you out anything. I hate taxes. That's the reason we're over here on jurisdiction. That's the reason we never mentioned it for years until that situation came up with John. K? And that got the attention on it from from a bunch of us. It doesn't appear to be viable. Nobody wants to spend their time doing it with such a low rate and percentage of return, as we've gotten. So we've gone off on another directions.
Right? I mean, I'll be the first one to tell you this is not an IRS program. The IRS thing is by default. That's why in the affidavit, it's the second paragraph, not the first.
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Okay.
[02:26:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Alright. Thanks, Roger. They're a nonentity as far as I'm concerned, Michael, quite frankly. So anybody I'm sorry. You still can't get that, that splinter out of your finger. I hope you can. Okay? So, whoever I don't know of anybody out there that's got the same approach because nobody knows what John and Glenn did. You know, here's Anne Vandersteel, Friday afternoon with, oh, the guys filling in for o o o and, Doo, Rob Doo. And she's sitting there going, there is no law. There is no law. And she's talking about a case that's different, in a sense, it's already happened under the bridge, and they're they're coming back and trying to see shit.
But there is a law. I can show it to you. I can show you how it works, but Anne's never followed up with me, so she doesn't know. And she does mention a guy named Mike Ellis, who I know because back when I was doing shows with Al Attis years ago, he knew Michael Ellis. And Michael Ellis is an expert on IRS internal codes, what they tell him to do in the manuals. And that may be somebody you wanna go try and maybe hook up with because he's got all of the technical stuff. Well, I add John and Glenn as my teachers, and they know the whole scheme from December and why it works and the things Michael Ellis knew to do, but he didn't know why.
And so I put those two together. Anne Vandersteel hadn't mentioned that at all. I've heard her mention mister Ellis a couple of times, but they went out. Have you heard this story, Michael? They went out. They found a doctor in San Diego who had failure to file for two years. They were coming after him. They had a a law firm that would work with them. John Glenn wrote all of the process. Everything that went into that courtroom, Glenn generated, and the lawyers introduced. And he got found guilty. And then they appealed it to the ninth circuit, and they found him guilty. And that's when Glenn walked away from all this. When I got the goods, I've got them dead to rights. And he said, Roger, not only can the jury not understand it, the judge can't understand it either.
That's straight out of Glen Amorch's mouths. So if you wanna look for experts, Michael, Michael Ellis can tell you from the inside what they do. I can show you and overlay the veneer of the system and show you why they use those things. And I don't know of any other place you can go to get that.
[02:29:34] Unknown:
Roger?
[02:29:36] Unknown:
I mean, look. Here we got what's one of our big guru gurus here. Hold on just a second. What's one of our big gurus? Judge Anna. Shit. She's a judge in her own jurisdiction. Well, IRS just got her for 1,200,000.0, Michael. Just like you're gonna go ask Anabond Rights about it?
[02:29:57] Unknown:
No. She that's pretty spooky.
[02:30:00] Unknown:
Well, she didn't appear. She tried to write why I refuse to contract and all that bull Patriot bullshit and send it back to them, and she didn't appear. And they got a default judgment, and they're they're they're liquidating her property in Wisconsin right up by where you are, I think.
[02:30:22] Unknown:
Now
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so I don't know who to tell you to go to when you say you wanna keep investigating. The if with what you understand from the jurisdictional side, if you can't see the application in 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, I I don't know how to further explain it to you, Michael. I don't know how to simplify it. I understand it. Does the will the IRS understand it? Well, if they come after anybody, does anybody come on here and say they're getting dinged? If they're getting dinged, believe me, this first place they're gonna come. You ever hear that? Even once, ever.
My god. No. Yeah. No. They're they're, you know, they're not. They're Okay. Well, isn't that is that evidently, that's not proof enough for you. So I don't know where to send you.
[02:31:24] Unknown:
Roger? Yes. Hi.
[02:31:29] Unknown:
It's it's Rich and my my last name, and my, my father was a bailiff in San Diego back in the late seventies. But what what time did this k when did this, case take place in San Diego? Well oh, I don't know. Last
[02:31:49] Unknown:
I was doing shows with Al Attis. That was maybe ten ten plus years ago a little bit. I don't even know the doctor's name. Okay? It was in federal court, but it and that and let me tell you what else was the repercussions of that, Michael. The attorney general put out a national memorandum of, for for all federal district courts, a moratorium. That's the word I was looking for. A moratorium to all federal district courts. No one can bring a case with push code o nine in it. K? Well, that's the little trick that's got Ann Vandersteel all panties in a wad. Okay? Because that's where they stop the computer and put in the substitute for return.
That you haven't filed, well, they're gonna make up an imaginary figure, and they're gonna enter that for you. And that is a national moratorium. No federal court could take up a case with push code o nine in it is my understanding, Michael. That was the result of that case. Okay? Roger, they don't put your signature on that. Michael, I I wanna scratch your itch, man, and I don't know how to do it. K? What sketch?
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They they don't put your signature on that, a replacement form, do they? Have to. No.
[02:33:29] Unknown:
No. They're not forging it. They've got statutory and regulatory authority to go in and do that. Because Okay. At the first, you didn't file, and you probably because you got one of those letters, we haven't received your tax return for the years what or what if you've disregarded if you filed or else we might have you bring in your books and records. John always believed that that was this magical merchant law document called the confirmatory writing. Affirmatory. Pardon me? Thank you. Where if you don't accept the cons or specifically reject it, then you accept it. Most of our guys throw it in the trash can. So now they've got you in a contractual obligation, and you didn't file even though it's fraud. You don't bring it up because you don't understand it. And so that gives them the right to do push code o nine, one of these technical moves internally.
What that does is it shuts the computer down. The computer in where is it? Somewhere in West Virginia, Martinsburg, West Virginia. The computer is programmed correctly. It knows it's got to have a ten forty form, a statute staple filed. When it doesn't see one, that's when they execute push code o nine. They put that in. Now there's a 10 forty's been filed, and they go on to assessment and collections. That's the scam. Okay?
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Right.
[02:35:06] Unknown:
Roger. Can't do that they can't do that without a shitload of process. Letters, giving you a chance to cure it, giving you a chance to cure it. They just don't come and grab stuff. Yes, Larry.
[02:35:22] Unknown:
Yeah. So, you know, I listen all the time. And there's probably been about three or four students over the last couple of months that came on and said they had IRS issues, and they just start to explain their story and then you you do, have the tendency to defer them to Mark. And so I'm wondering maybe this can help, this can help Michael. Maybe you could have Mark come on the show this Saturday since he comes on Wednesdays and Saturdays, and he can give all of us an update on how he helped them to respond to these situations that they're in because that way, all of us can learn together.
[02:36:01] Unknown:
A lot a lot of it are just screwy little errors, like them reporting a wrong damn amount to the state, then the state coming back. And it was a a person that initiated that error. There's a lot of that kind of stuff. There's no concerted activity of the IRS coming at us. They're they're trying to probe and send these letters and try to do something. They don't know what to do, Larry. This is not you know, if you guys have got specific tax questions, I don't mind that. We're not going into tax law here. K? I'm just not doing it. I don't like it. I hate it. I've given you that out. If you don't wanna accept it, well, you need to I I can't give you anymore. K? Because I divorced myself from it years ago. Mark understands it a little bit better. Ask a specific question. We don't need to go into a whole damn show dedicated to that crap.
Well, isn't Saturdays dedicated to tax questions with Mark? No. No. Well, no. If you wanna have a tax question, we'll entertain it. I'm gonna not dedicate the whole damn show to it. There's not that many people with questions about it.
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Yeah. I agree, Roger. I have a quick I have something, Roger.
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Yes. Marco.
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Or Michael. The CFR code and, that removes you from that, their jurisdiction. There has been people that have had issues, but because they're bluffing them and they're testing people on, you know, if they know the information and understand it and and have internalized it. So they have no jurisdiction unless they're the you owe the $8.71 and the $8.77.
[02:37:47] Unknown:
That's it. They're they're, like, coming in You have to know how to defend yourself. We're getting all these affidavits coming in. There's a whole bunch of them. We wanna know if these people are somebody's doing this for them or if they really know what they're talking about. That's what that call to Jerry was about about a year and a half ago. They're testing for their own information. They wanna know how much you know too. Okay? But that's what they're doing. That's what all these bluff letters are designed to do. That's what they do, and people How well do you understand this? You they're gonna test you. Right. That's what I said. The only way you can defend your position is to know the information.
If Roger and the Brain Trust wasn't here to help you, you'd have to skull it out on your own. That's why I insist
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if I can That's why you have to do research.
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Upon you to learn the information and tell you. If you really wanna be free, this is your effort. If you really wanna be free, yes, the the the the level of freedom you'll achieve is directly correlated to how well you internalize this information and make it part of you.
[02:39:00] Unknown:
Sorry. Freedom ain't doing research and learning the information yourself, seeing it and reading it is what empowers you. So that's the only way to defend yourself.
[02:39:10] Unknown:
Can I please quote Thomas Jefferson? Those who expect to be ignorant and free, exact expect what never was and never will be. Thomas Jefferson, dead on the mark. Dead on the mark. So that's your mandate. You wanna be free Just wanted to share that one. Follow those guidelines. Thank you, Marco. How about you doing? Yeah. I hope to. So, anyway, I'll see y'all back tomorrow on Thursday, and, I hope all of you have a great day. Okay? And, we'll see you tomorrow. Ciao.
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911.
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Bye, Roger. Have a great day.
[02:39:58] Unknown:
And, Mer, check the private chat. I got a question for you. What's your question? Here's another, quote from Jefferson. The medium of exchange shall be returned to the nation to whom it belongs.
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As it should.
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Yeah. It looks interesting in their sketch, Steven. Miles w Mathis. Yep. Looking to him, people.
[02:40:45] Unknown:
Well, do you think it's real, or do you think it's fake is my question?
[02:40:52] Unknown:
In this case, I think that's real, and he's done it before and been released. And if you look at the footage that was undoctored, we're talking about the Ukrainian little young woman that was stabbed to death in the in the subway. There were four black men and one black woman. Some woman left, got her stuff and got out. While this was all going on, the undoctored one, you know, you see the the one on x where it shows he's just frozen in motion above her. But if you see the whole thing, he stabbed her and they're running back and forth and doing all kinda of stuff. You know, her hat's been knocked off. She's got her legs drawn up. She's terrified. She eventually falls on the floor and there's blood on the seat. No one came to her aid because of race.
That's what that was in this case. It'll be used to an advantage, no doubt, but I don't think this one was staged. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. My opinion. Thank you. Does Miles think it was? I haven't read it.
[02:41:55] Unknown:
Well, yeah. He kinda does. He he tries to poke holes in it. I yield.
[02:42:03] Unknown:
He looks face to me too.
[02:42:11] Unknown:
Yep. This is Mary. I didn't I didn't see it.
[02:42:15] Unknown:
When the blood drops from the from the bottom of the, see where she was, it dropped too fast like, like, they throw, a cup of blood dropping the step, and it was too much blood in in the walls. It's you know, it doesn't look like when the blood is dripping naturally. And she don't have nothing in the neck. It was staged.
[02:42:42] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, because when you Yeah. If your heart is still beating and your heart is still pumping, and you cut the carotid artery, it's gonna squirt out like like a faucet. Like, you turn the faucet on. It's gonna squirt out, and it's gonna get everywhere
[02:43:00] Unknown:
on people. And she wasn't holding the the neck, just the mouth. She was putting her her hands in her mouth, no on the area by the neck. No blood was there or nothing. I don't know. You know, I wasn't in there, but in the video, it looked all fake.
[02:43:20] Unknown:
I didn't watch the video, and I'm probably not going to, because I've come to realize that this whole thing is a cyber war. So what we see just like to tell a vision. You know, the what makes the Internet any different? Right? Or video games because I've seen my grandkids play video games where they look so realistic, but it's really not. It's just a stupid game, which I don't even know and understand why my daughter would let them play these games. That's beyond me. But that being said, it that's what this whole thing feels like when they do the stuff that they do to still contain the control, still contain the money system, monetary system, still contain all these systems that they've got going on, including the medical, get everybody scared of all these viruses. They're gonna come and get us. It it it just I I can't. And it's ridiculous.
I mean, I should probably go try to look up this video, but I don't even think I'm going to. I really don't because I know it's gonna be a bunch of crap. Just like Hi, Sketch. Hook shooting.
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Just like Did you post it? A sense
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oh, I'm sorry, Marie.
[02:44:36] Unknown:
Sketch, did you post it in the chat? I'd like to see it, please.
[02:44:40] Unknown:
It's not a video. It's just a couple articles. Yeah. I can do that, John. I didn't wanna bother other people with it, but I will, John. I'll I'll be in the well, I'll put in the the regular chat. Yep.
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Thanks.
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But something else, everything is fake. Everything that we see, politicians, all the laws, all the money, everything is fake. You just make believe.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
So Casey's, mission accomplished. Right? When he was, he'd been Reagan's campaign manager and on the cabinet meeting where they were stating their, mission statements, he said, they know their mission will be complete when everything the American people believe is false. And what they're going for here is that they won't believe anything. Not just that it's false, but they don't believe anything. That's why it's important to know about Christ. Alright? But I can see here where he's talking about AI and how this was handled and handled it. And this guy's name isn't isn't anywhere anywhere. Pretty interesting.
[02:45:54] Unknown:
Murr, I gotta stop you right there. I gotta stop you. How are you connected? By a dial up phone or what?
[02:46:05] Unknown:
Who? Who? You?
[02:46:07] Unknown:
How are you connected? Me?
[02:46:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm on like you saw on the laptop, but it's through the app through the app.
[02:46:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. You are so super loud. You are three times as loud as everybody else. Can you go into your settings and kinda pull your mic down a little bit, please?
[02:46:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I did turn it down. I don't know what's going on. I'll just touch You're a loud white woman.
[02:46:32] Unknown:
Well, now, and Brent's super loud too. I don't know what's going on with that. That's
[02:46:42] Unknown:
racist.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
Brent, you're super loud. I'm sorry. You're just loud as than anything.
[02:46:52] Unknown:
There's there's other other, mics open apparently because I'm picking up an echo.
[02:46:59] Unknown:
No. You're picking up the echo from my speakers because the people out in the front yard of my house can hear you. You're so loud. Of course, my microphone can hear you.
[02:47:10] Unknown:
See, Paul, you're coming in louder to me than anybody else.
[02:47:15] Unknown:
That's because that's because I have my own private channel.
[02:47:20] Unknown:
I hear everybody has an echo. I keep myself on mute unless I wanna say something, but you guys are all really echoing. Am I?
[02:47:28] Unknown:
How do you And everybody's really laughing.
[02:47:33] Unknown:
My wife complained today. She was outside the garage, and she could hear it. She's going to turn that down.
[02:47:46] Unknown:
Hey, Paul?
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Yep.
[02:47:53] Unknown:
So who is this person that got Roger all upset that he didn't wanna say his name?
[02:48:01] Unknown:
I don't Michael Gatti. Does it matter? Does it matter?
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Does it matter?
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Was it Gatti or was it Richardson? I don't know what it's pertaining to.
[02:48:21] Unknown:
It's Mike, but it doesn't matter. They don't listen to him anyway.
[02:48:34] Unknown:
I'm still trying to get the call in don't for the Thursday show. If anybody can have it, put it in the chat, please. Thank you.
[02:48:43] Unknown:
If you don't wanna listen, why would you come on the show? I don't understand that. Like, because you can take what resonates and take what doesn't and go where you wanna go. You know what I'm saying? Like, why do so many people take everything so literal in a sense?
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Some people are anal.
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Yeah.
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Generally, when you have a radio show and you have someone come on as a guest, you're not trying to tell them your information a lot of times. You know? You have them on as a guest because you're promoting their information. Like, when Roger goes on other people's shows, the Roger's not there to listen to them and their spiel. He's there to spread his spiel. Right?
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Right. Completely agree.
[02:49:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. That's true. I never thought of it that way.
[02:49:52] Unknown:
Listen to what listen to what Roger says about the the Sarah Westall thing. Am I too loud still?
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You're good. Not to me. You you always loud.
[02:50:04] Unknown:
I backed off of me. You sound good. I turned it down and backed off.
[02:50:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've been start of it because I'm here.
[02:50:16] Unknown:
Okay. Roger Roger I've told him this, but like on Sarah Westall, he, you know, he he instructs. He doesn't do interviews per se. He instructs. But he let Sarah Westall get away with getting a conversation with him, and that really drew people in. So that's how that works. But, yeah, the whole the whole deal with Mike Gaddy, we've been through it before. He came on for his regular time slot. And, you know, people that do stuff like this, they they take probably two hours for every hour you're preparing. You know? And after the half hour passed, he gave up because there were other things going on. So, you know, just the differences in people. It's not that they don't both have good knowledge that we can share. Like I said, it's like professors.
Alright? You go to a college or a university, you're gonna have a lot of differences of opinion just like we do here, just like RBN. You know? So you're gonna have strong personalities coming through, and thank god for it. But there was interference otherwise that's not being acknowledged there, and I won't be buying any books from that publisher. He's a perfectionist publicist, and his books are great, but, he's not honest. So there you go.
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Mara, I think the problem with your audio is it's crackly.
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Historically.
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Am I crack am I crackly for anyone else?
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You're better now than you were when you were talking to Ryan because that was really bad.
[02:52:01] Unknown:
Well, I think the crackly on your part.
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Nope.
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I know. Another hint of another hint of the publisher is he's an Iranian Jew.
[02:52:15] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. And and he defends the Israelis attacking the liberty. That was a real crux of a point for me. Plus, he took, six digits and, money from them, And he was gonna charge me for slander talking about that, but there was no basis, so he didn't. Meanwhile, on their program, they decided to, say that perhaps I had something to do with John Satmiller's death, and, they added that out. That was wise. Not that I'd go suing anybody. I don't care. Because I know I didn't have anything to do with this step.
[02:53:28] Unknown:
Okay. Are we done talking now? Because I can take the stream down. I can do that.
[02:53:35] Unknown:
I have I have one question for Julie. Julie. Julie.
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Can you hear me?
[02:53:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi. Do, do you have pen do you have pen and paper? I don't know. I'm driving, but I can try to answer anything you That's okay. You probably can remember this. You speak if you speak to Deborah Tavares a lot or kinda often. And, if you could remember, could you maybe ask her a question about, primary water? Could could you maybe ask her if, someone lives at the beach, and they live two blocks from the ocean, from the beach? If if somebody lives two blocks from the beach, it can they is that far enough away from the beach to dig a primary water well?
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No. You can't you have to find one. You've got to find a spring that has primary water, and it has to be on your property. So you would have to, get somebody who would have knowledge about that and to find out if you even have that on your property.
[02:54:54] Unknown:
Right. But so if there is a spring on my property, is that too close to the beach to drill? I don't know. You'd have to check out you'd you'd have to check out your land ordinances where you're at,
[02:55:14] Unknown:
Joan.
[02:55:15] Unknown:
Yeah. But besides, besides ordinances, does Deborah Tavares know if that's too close to the beach would somehow seawater get in?
[02:55:27] Unknown:
She would not have any of that knowledge, Joan. She would she's not on a beach. She would not have that knowledge. You again, you would have to find out the proximity, within which you could drill.
[02:55:41] Unknown:
Okay. I thought she knew everything I thought she knew everything about okay. Hi. Yes.
[02:55:48] Unknown:
Yeah. You wanna watch that film Primary Water on YouTube by mister Reese. He's the guy he's the guy who started this. He explains where you find it. Yeah. One of the best geologists in the world that died before he was even alive was an expert in drilling in or the geology of the North Pole. He is a Swedish guy, and he was the first guy to do primary water in the eighteen hundreds. He drilled wells off the coast where of Sweden in the ocean, obviously, where where the light towers were, and he got fresh water. And they also were mining underneath, Sweden, these huge mines and going in under the ocean, and they got their own water supplies down there in these mines in the ocean area.
So Right. But but it's the geology and knowing how to look for it, an expert that can do that.
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Yeah.
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That would be the key. And if you listen to his explanation of what a dike is you know, a dike in in our modern power lens is a you know, it's like a dam. Right? Yeah. It separates the water, and he's talks about those in geology and how they fill with sediment and have mineral in them because of that because the water was once there a long time ago until it fused off.
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So the way he would locate where to drill was based on where the mineral sediments were. That's why I'm happy. I just need to know if somebody else was still barking. Okay. How about how about I didn't know if somebody else Can you send me that? Or how she can I look at that video you talked about? Posted it, didn't she? I think she posted it during the show. Oh, got it. Yeah. Symbols chat. Thank you.
[02:57:49] Unknown:
Welcome. Everybody should look at that and just shows you, I mean, if you try to find out about this excursion this guy took in '58 to go to Israel and dig a well for them and how they denied that it was producing anymore, they said it went salty from the sea, which is just bullshit so that they could get more water from Jordan out of the Jordan River through The Hague. So they denied that his well even exists almost today. Yep. When they brought it in, it was newspaper headlines that they brought in water for a 100,000 people.
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Is that in this video? Yes. It is. Is this the video that has to do with Paul Prowett?
[02:58:37] Unknown:
No. It's it's doctor Stefan Reis or Reis. I think it's e I, so it's probably Reis.
[02:58:46] Unknown:
Do you want me to send it to you, Joan?
[02:58:49] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Alrighty.
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It's I And there is there is a video about, Paul Prower, and he's at the end of that video. So he probably paid for it in '85. He supposedly took up the torch after mister Rice, or Reese passed. And he has a a site called Primary Water Institute, and there's a video on there as well. I think about him because it I it says it's a memorial. I haven't seen that yet, but I intend to do that sometime here soon.
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So he's I don't
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but if he has an institute, I'm sure he wasn't gonna leave it not to be passed on to some younger folks. So, I'm sure we got some people who are still know what to look for in the in the geology to bring these wells in because Reese says in in in his piece, you know, you don't have to be off far, and you're not gonna get anything.
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In fact,
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a friend of mine had a has a property where one guy, the the drill rig guy just drilled a hole where he thought it was easy to drill, and he got nothing, basically. Yeah. Like a gallon gallon a minute. And he hired an old timer who understood the geology of the county and things like that, and, he drilled again, and it was it wasn't very far away, within 200 feet, I think he said. And he has an artesian well since then. So it comes to the surface. He doesn't even have to pump it.
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Yay. So that man who dug a well, at at Sweden or Switzerland near the ocean?
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No. On the on the islands that had the the light towers on them is where he drilled.
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Oh, do you know how close to the water the ocean he drilled?
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Yeah. He was out in the ocean drilling on these little islands and where low light towers were, and he got fresh water.
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Okay. That's in the video
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that I think it yeah. It's talked about in there.
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Good.
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Okay, guys. Wow. I'm gonna take the, I'm gonna take the streams down. I'm gonna try and limit rumble as close to three hours as possible. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Thank you so much for joining us today. You can catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer. There is an after show discussion that continues on in free conference call. To find that, just go to our website, thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. Click on any of the free conference call links you can dial in either by smartphone, tablet, computer, or landline telephone. We'll see you back here tomorrow for the Radio Ranch Thursday edition at 11AM.
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No. Alvin, Alvin, Alvin, what prophetic lyrics there from decades ago. Unbelievable. Good morning. Wednesday, Miracles in Spanish. Miracles show, and it's Wednesday, September 10. We're almost halfway through the month of September. Boy, it's hard to believe. They go by quick, don't they, Paul? Roger Sales here and your, Radio Ranch two hour fix for the day. And if you're new, we're gonna if you ask the right questions, we'll tell you how to get out from under Jewish slavery, fake Jewish slavery. So that's what we're here about is you, actually. It's not about me. Although it does give me people to talk to that are like minded, which is a blessing.
So, anyway, here we go. There's people that help us all over the place, and the one that can keep up with all of them is and I don't know how is Paul Beaner. So, mister b, would you come out and give us the good news and help our friends get some recognition they deserve and have earned?
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It's the it's the normal full blown suite of platforms. We've got radiosoapbox.com, thanks to, Paul English. We've got, eurofolkradio.com, thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network, the Net family of broadcast services including WVOU one zero six point nine FM Chicago, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, and stream life.tube. The Net family of broadcast services also, mirrors us on, Rumble channel, and I think maybe a Twitch channel as well, either Rumble on d live or Rumble on Twitch. But that's okay because we're also on Rumble through Global Voice Network, Rumble, Twitch, and dLive.
There is a live chat on the Rumble channel, and we do check it periodically for questions and comments. Otherwise, go to our website, thematrixdocs.com, and you can click on the free conference call links and actually join us live on the show. We've got room for a thousand people, and we only have 33 in attendance right now. So you know what that means? About 960 of you better get on the stick. Come on down and set a spell. Do we have,
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usually, Miracle Less Wednesday is one of the days March with us. Mark, are you there with us today, Arc? No, Arc? Okay. Maybe he'll join us. Don't know what's going on in his world. There's a bunch going on in the world, though. So, anyway, we'll use this little couple minutes here at the start to cover this. I think it might be important. And, so if you're new today, which should, you know, never know if you've got new people or not, we're here for you, really. Our main initiative, our main thrust is you and getting you at least to a point of where you know, I my job is to let you know you got a decision and a choice you didn't know you had. Okay? Basically. But I don't tell you to do it. If you don't wanna do it, you go on off into the sunrise or sunset or whichever direction you're headed. That's your choice.
But if you are interested in doing that, we're here to help you, and we love bringing new people into the reality zone. I guess we could call it that, Paul, the reality zone. Bring you back into reality from your, from your, fake Jew illusion you've been dealing with for most of your life or all your life, really. Anyway, I I, you you had something to add, Paul? No. Just agreeing with you. Alright. Well, then let me get this other geopolitical stuff out of the way, watching Harrison as I do on a regular basis. And I'm assuming some of you in the audience get up early, probably dial into that for you, come over here and visit with us.
Harrison's gonna get the afternoon show, it looks like. Pardon me. Let me cough your Oh, boy. Where did that come from? So
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sorry. I've got a tickle too. I've always I'm I I just keeps having to turn my microphone off so I can clear my throat.
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Yeah. I'm sorry about that. Well, I've, been taken. I had a little n a c, a bottle of n a c, which, Cody sent me back during the, COVID years, which we're gonna get to in a minute. And, I didn't take them because I didn't need them at that point. So the they're sitting up there in the cabinet, and I thought about a week ago, I said, well, I'll just start taking some of these. It turns out NAC is really, really one of its very good applications is clearing, phlegm and stuff out of your lungs. And I swear I've been feeling my lungs feeling better. I've got bad sinuses. Always have had. Got them inherited from my mom, and, it's always giving me problems. But, that's a nice little stumble on something that might help that out. So anyway
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I should I should do that. I've got You should try it. Try it. I've got a couple of 500 count bottles of NAC because it's a glutathione precursor, and it breaks down graphene oxide and all that. Correct. Correct. So yeah.
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Yeah. Well, speaking of that kind of stuff, do you know who is really sharp? Have you seen he's been on the air more lately. Have you seen Rex Jones, Alex's son, go over any of this stuff? I don't know how old he is. He can't be, you know, early twenties, mid twenties. Looks just like his dad shaved his head and all that stuff. This kid is sharp on this stuff. This is his Ballywick, and he's formulating all the, supplements now. And, man, he's sharp as a tack. K? So, anyway, good for Rex. Maybe they'll work him into a little more regular appearance over there now that Owen has trudged off on his own.
But, anyway, that was the cough. Sorry. Harrison was covering this morning. The great that's a great name of a town, Kathmandu. You've heard it in song. Was it Bob Caesar and some of those let's just talk about Kathmandu. Well, that's in Nepal. It's the capital in Nepal. And so, there's some real bad stuff going on over there right now. They're rioting, and they're not happy with their, elite leadership. And the fact that only 20% of the people from teenage to mid twenties have a job, and yet all these, siblings of the elite going around with all their international travel and fancy handbags and all that stuff. Well, they got to a point they didn't like it, and, they, started revolting by the tens of thousands over there. You you haven't seen any of the shots of this, have you, Paul? No. I haven't. Well, they're burning the hell out of that place, man. I went in one of the one of the big guys' wives was burned alive. They burned their house, and she's perished in it.
They're attacking their houses by the tens of thousands. They have no guns. It's all rocks and just sheer numbers of people. And, they have they have, set quite a stage over there in Nepal, for the, world elite to gaze on. Mhmm. And, because these people don't have guns, it's just sheer numbers. And that, of course, is what scares them. Even without injecting what we do, it's just the numbers of people is what scares the the out of them. Mhmm. So, anyway, that's going on. There's got the, Tommy Robinson thing coming up this, this weekend, thirteenth, I believe. And, I'm sure Paul will wanna talk about that tomorrow maybe.
That's coming up this weekend. They have told the cops, over there evidently that if they participate, they're gonna lose their jobs or pensions and everything else. So the establishment is coming in and and and and stopping the cops from participating in what they would probably normally get out there and participate in. So we've got these scenarios that are building, Paul, that are very similar to before COVID. If you remember, we had all the same kind of stuff. All these uprisings and the yellow vests in France and whatever was going on in England, and there was stuff going on all over the globe on this, and then they came out with COVID. Right?
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Yeah.
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Well, I think that might be happening again. Dave, are you with us this morning yet? Dave in the thumb, are you there fumbling for your for the mute on your flip phone? Because he was mentioning the head of the Michigan militia is also holds an official position in that township, and the whole all those people in the state of Michigan were said told they're going into another lockdown. Really? That's what Dave dropped on. Yeah. He dropped it on us yesterday. So, we may be headed for that same type of scenario. Don't know.
But there's some very suspicious things that are happening and shaping up. So heads up. Owls. Heads up. Lock me down. Well, they That ain't happening. It may be that whatever this variety that they're gonna bequeath on us this time is is more deadly. Maybe even aimed at children. We don't know. You know? But, anyway, I'm not saying that that's gonna happen. I'm just saying that the tea leaves are shaping up to where that maybe could happen with a lot of similar things as five years ago.
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K?
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So that's all I'm saying this morning. But, boy, it was really, Harrison does a really good job. The other thing that's happening, geopolitically, is they shot down a Russian drone in Poland. I know you haven't heard about this, Paul. You don't follow the news, as closely as I try to. And we've got this guy, Butts, I think is his name, who's the prime minister of Poland. He's a EU guy that ran him in to get rid of the other Polish guy that was trying to keep him out of the war. And, of course, Polish Poland and Russia have a traditional, antagonistic relationship. Is that a good way to put it?
Yeah. Like, they don't like each other, you know, like Chile and and Argentina. And, and, of course, with the people that have tried to conquer Russia, Hitler and Napoleon both failed miserably. And, they go through Poland to get to Russia. Part of the reason is because all that land in Ukraine too is because all that land is relatively smooth. There's not mountainous stuff there, and they can roll through there pretty quickly. You'll remember, I believe I don't I don't obviously remember the exact stats. Napoleon took 400 and something thousand men into Russia, I believe.
And he came back with 10,000.
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Wow.
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It's something that dramatic.
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What about catastrophic losses?
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Oh, yeah. And, of course, then with, you know, the other thing that always interests me so much, I should find out about this stuff, was, Waterloo. And what happened at Waterloo? Of course, this is where the Rothschilds came in and got the carrier pigeon with or news that, Wellington had won. And, that's when he took over the the London Stock Exchange. You know that story. Right?
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No.
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You don't know that story? No. I don't know that story. Well, the Rothschilds, one of the things, you know, cutting edge stuff they do is they had carrier pigeons. And so, they when they the Battle of Waterloo happened, they sent the carrier pigeons back to the, to England that Wellington had won. And having that advanced knowledge, I don't remember which one of the Rothschild kids it was. But he we went to the London Stock Exchange, and he and his agents, his known agents, they started selling just hand over fist. And so everyone knowing the prowess of the Rothschilds and seeing them selling automatically assumed that Napoleon had won.
And so they all started selling. And, and the Rothschild agents at the other end of the stock exchange were buying up everything at pennies on the dollar. That's how the Rothschilds came to control the British stock exchange. Okay. And then they parlayed that into the, I believe, into the central bank. But, anyway, what happened was, Napoleon got caught in you know, he had track of of of of wagons and stuff that he all his logistics and all of his troops and pulling the cannons and all that stuff. And they had incredible rains that summer in the Northern Hemisphere. I don't know if it was Krakatoa, but it was one of those real big volcanoes in the Southern Hemisphere that went off the year before. I think that was 1815, and it went off the year before, and that's the year Europe had no summer, basically.
There's all kinds of rains caused by that atmospheric disruption of that volcano volcano eruption, which was very sizable, that really probably defeated Napoleon because he couldn't move his wagons around. K? So there's a lot of very interesting things that surround that time. But, the that's how the Rothschilds took over the English Stock Exchange, Paul. Oh, Just a little you know, what does every victor in the history of the world have is knowledge of what's going on in the enemy's camp.
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Right. Inside information.
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Yeah. So, anyway well, if anybody didn't know that, that's how the Rothschilds took over, the British Stock Exchange, just having prior knowledge, basically. So Arr. Hey. There he is. He did two show up. Hey. Hey. How you doing there, mister Moore? And that's and they got beat by the tally stick. Yes. And, what do you tell the audience?
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Of anyone.
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Do you tell the audience about that? And I'll once you plug, for those of you who don't know much about the monetary system, and it's really one of the really key things you need to learn about, there is a wonderful I mean, it is really well done. Two hour documentary by Bill Still. You can find it on YouTube called Secrets of Oz, and it won a documentary of the year in 2011 at one of these film festivals. It is exceptionally Hollywood well produced, even goes over. And what triggered that was, Mark said, tally sticks. Some of you don't know what those were or are.
And, Bill Sewell went over to the, British Museum and got one of the curators there, and they pulled some tally sticks out of the out of the glass, display cases and started handling them. They were wearing gloves and stuff. But they ran all of England on sticks, folks. Sticks.
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Yep. That was their currency at the time. That's a great show. Bill still also has one. I've got both of these sets. Money Masters and then the Secrets of Oz. Yeah. Highly recommend those. The Money Masters was really
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Hey. Let me just interject. The Money Masters was first. I was his first effort back when I first got into this, and you used to always have to get it on a VHS tape that had been dubbed and dubbed and dubbed and had very poor quality. Right. That's right. So, Money Masters was the first one, and and then he came out with this excellent, excellent, The Secrets of Oz. If you don't know anything about monetary theory, system and you've never been exposed to this, take two hours and go watch that.
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What's what's fascinating about the tally stick was it become currency. So they they were finding the Bank of England, the people were and the government and so they came up with a way to bypass the government it's almost like modern day cryptocurrency in a way. Yeah. But it's just currency and they have these mostly hickory sticks that they would if you can imagine kind of a long slender stick and part of it was split down the middle Let me back up. Before they did that, they would saw some notches on the side of the hickory stick to determine what its value was.
Okay. So like a paper currency might have $1, $2, or $5, $10, so forth. They put notches on the side of this stick and then they split it down the middle almost to the full length of the stick and then they cut part of it off and the short part that had the flat side on it was the part that got circulated into the public. And here's the genius part of this if anybody suspected that they cut a notch on the on the, amount that was going around, they could take it back to the government, compare it to its matching stick, and see if it was a forgery or not, if somebody altered it.
Very cool, you know, for back then. Mhmm. And they broke the Bank of England because they no longer needed the Bank of England. So just it's a fascinating story, and and, if you haven't learned anything about that, if you're new to that story, really strongly recommend you looking up the tally sticks in England.
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You know, the only thing money is really there for, get you a second, Rick, is as a medium of exchange. I had the distinct pleasure of, not only getting to break bread with, but getting to pick the up at the airport and talk with him one on one, Byron Dale. Do you are you familiar with him, Mark Byron Dale?
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No. Not a sort of late name. No.
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He was this is back in the nineties. He wrote a book called Bashed by the Bankers. You can go do a search on it, probably find the cover and see him there in the hospital room where the, I think it's North or South Dakota police came into his house and beat the ever loving snot out of him with a ketchup bottle. K? And what Byron Dale had done was he, he had he was a farmer of the year in whichever one of those Dakota states he was in a year or two before. And what he did was he took the whole summer off. He turned the farm over to his son, and he did nothing but interlibrary searches on on money issues.
And he figured out a way to start his own Federal Reserve. That's why they beat the crap out of him. And, he even had a judge that ruled in his favor on that one on a lower lower court. And, Byron would say, here's the three questions you ask. What is money? Where does it come from? And how does it get into circulation? What is money? Where does it come from? And how does it get into circulation? So, yes. Comment? Yes. So Byron Dale was a good guy too. Yes, Julie. And then I'm gonna get to Rick in a second, Rick. Go ahead, Julie.
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No. I was just gonna say that book was incredible. The minute you recommended that a while back, I bought it, and it's one of the best books I've ever read. I yield. Yep. He's quite a guy, Byron. I was really lucky. I guess he's still with us. I'm not sure. Rick, what's your, what's your, your offering here, buddy?
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That was Nathan Rothschild that pulled that off at the British Exchange. It's one of, Mayer Amschel's original five sons. Yes. And each son, they were responsible for the formation taking control of a different bank, English bank, French bank, Italian bank, you know, German bank, whatever.
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And, eventually, that worked into the Vatican Bank because they control the Vatican Bank now and have for some time. And that way, he dispensed his five sons. I guess he had swimmers, didn't he? He dispensed his five sons throughout Europe, and that way they could make loans in different capitals to different people and not have to really transfer anything anywhere. They just Thomas. Alright. Their power instead. They He
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Nathan was, when William of Orange came over Yeah. He had a fortune gold, and he gave that over to Nathan Rothschild for safekeeping. And Nathan used that to,
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make a huge amount of money. Yeah. Well, you know, that's their reputation. That's how they got started was Rothschild loaned to governments. And as Napoleon was going through Europe and some of those things, he, he would get the nobles throughout Europe who were afraid their fortunes would get confiscated by Napoleon, and they gave it to Rothschild. What Rothschild did with them evidently was put them in wine storage casks. He would put the the the the metals in wine storage casks, Rick, from what I read one time. And he paid off all the nobles of Europe with the interest, and they got their money back. And that's where they got all the confidence from all the rulers of Europe to invest with them and have them look over their, their, financial stuff. Okay. Hold on. Joe's right there. Yeah, Joe?
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Just a quick comment before you get too far away from Byron Dale. I've listened to him on the old Chuck Harder program.
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Yeah. Uh-huh. You remember him? Yeah. Of course. And,
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numerous times, he, discussed the monetary system of the Guernsey Islands.
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Yes. Yes. I don't And,
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they separated their, monetary system completely away from England.
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Uh-huh.
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And also much of the
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anybody that one wants to look up the monetary system of Durney Islands would find it quite interesting. Yeah. Would be a good injection into this conversation.
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I don't remember that particularly, vaguely. But, let's see. What was I gonna say? Yeah. You've got these systems that work on their own, you know, around the world. They're like Jersey Island. They're not huge. North Dakota. North Dakota, Bank of North Dakota, they've got a, and have had for a long time a, their own bank up there in North Dakota, and they I'm not sure all the specifications of it, what how they operate, but they've got a surplus. I think they're the only state in the union with the surplus right now.
So that private banking, can really help you out considerably. Anyway, that's, yeah, Byron Dale. Boy, if you wanna see a picture, go look see if you can find that book, Bashed by the Bankers. And look at the cover of that. They beat the holy snot out of him with a ketchup with ketchup bottles. Poor guy. So, so, anyway, where else can we go? Mark, we were originally talking about tally sticks and stuff and monetary, and it's extremely important, because as, they've said and I've read over the years, there is no money. There's only credit.
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Mhmm.
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There is no money. There's only credit. Yet we call that money, and we create and help you establish that that illusion. And I've I've, you know, tried to get it across. Just go for one day. I used to say a week. Go for one day and every time you use the word money, catch yourself consciously before or after and correct it and use the word currency. And you will find very quickly how deeply you're conditioned. K?
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Yep. Very much so. And speaking of monetary power, I just watched a video and I posted in the chat and I posted it over on toradioranch.chatango.com. The Canadian reporter YouTube channel come out recently just like in the last day or two, and the Western part of Canada looks like it's going to succeed from the Eastern part. We talked about that a little bit just recently. This is this isn't. Yeah. They they needed a 125,000, signatures to bring put it on a ballot. They got up over 250,000. And the mayor of that Providence, Alberta, they're talking about all the money that's going to Ottawa and Ottawa is constantly passing policy against their interests primarily energy ton of oil that comes out of Alberta and you know they cut off the Keystone pipeline which Trump had given the green light to that Canada cut it off too. And so I forgot how many billions of dollars a year that they're producing and their infrastructure is crumbling because the politicians in Ottawa didn't want to spend any money out there. Yeah. Even though that's the golden goose. They don't wanna take care of them. I believe they've got the tar sands up there. It's what they found. I think that's where the bulk of that is.
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And there's enough I don't know. Well, I think so. And if they've I heard someone say again, this is one of those things you hear in the past that registers on you, but you don't know if you remember it accurately. I think they said that the tar the oil and the tar sands up there could run The US for, like, two hundred years?
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Well, I if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong on this, but I thought they said they're producing, like, 4,000,000 barrels of oil per day. Up there bigger than, like, any Middle Eastern country Yep. Which was just a shock.
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I'm pretty sure that's a shock. Now the other thing is very heavy oil, and it takes
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massive amounts of water to flush it out of the sands.
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Yeah. Oh, does it? It's like, like the oil quality in Venezuela, high sulfur? Yes. Yeah. And it takes massive, massive amounts of water to flush it out. Well, then you got just to the West a ways. You've got Anwar up there that they've capped for how many years? Forty, fifty years? Who's that pastor that used to tell us about that?
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Oh, yeah. He passed away, didn't he? Uh-huh.
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Anyway, that's supposed to be a mammoth mammoth pool of reserves also. Yes. And I don't think that's that's heavy crude, Joe. I think it's more lively food. No. The Palmyra
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area that you're talking about in Alaska, yes. Is wider crew, but the Alberta Canada crude is considered to be heavy crew. Okay. That's what they have as well.
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I see. Okay. Rick, was that you trying to get in there?
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Yes. Danielle Smith. She's the premier of, Alberta. And Saskatchewan, I think, has a lot
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of sand or or in the tar sands. I think Saskatchewan has a lot of Listen. That very well may be, and I'm not sure which one of those provinces has it, but one of them is loaded with this tar sand stuff. K. So But the problem is
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you had oil out of Alberta. The only way to go is south to The US. You can get Vancouver involved. Right. Vancouver, they can ship it.
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They're not they're they're not gonna let oil tankers up around that beautiful part of the world, I don't think. And that's, even though that's part of an excuse, it's it's legitimate. That's a lovely part of the world. The big deal. I lived in it for four four years when I was young. So guess
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The the big deal in getting oil out of the tar sands of Alberta is pipeline. Uh-huh. And, there's a hitch in the largest oil storage in the world is in Fushing, Oklahoma, and they've never got that pipeline completed from Alberta to Cushing because of the Indians. The Indians have have put a hitch in that giddy up, and Warren Buffett loves it because he owns the railroad and the railcars that transport it from one end of that pipeline down to the other end so it can go to Cushing.
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How where is Cushing, Oklahoma? What part of the state, Joe, is it in?
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It it's Southwest of, Tulsa. Okay. So it's in Oklahoma City in Tulsa.
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So it's in Indian Territory.
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Yes. Well, but the the pipeline, the hat part of this transportation is by rail. It's not completely by pipeline. Uh-huh. There's an interruption because of of various protests, if you will. Yeah. But once it gets to Cushing, then Cushing can store it and then ship push it on to Houston for refining.
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Okay.
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Alright. Mark,
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But that's a that's a big deal. Cushing being the largest oil depot
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in the world. Wow. There's a lot of the many places in the world. Wow. I did not know that. True. But something came up about the Oklahoma and the Indian territory from Dave of Dave and Kaye the other day. Mark, I asked Dave to send you a copy of it. Somebody had contacted him, I believe, about Indians getting passports. I don't know. Dave, are you listening? Dave, are you listening this morning? Are you with us? Can you come on and fill fill in some of the holes I'm leaving? Yep. Yeah. I'm on, Roger. Hey, Dave. Yeah. If you could, because Mark's witness, and the minute I read that, I said, well, you need to throw this to Mark because he's no doubt more familiar with this than us. Can you give us the what did somebody they contacted you through the website on this?
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Yeah. Yeah. They did. They, the gentleman, sent us a comment in the passport area, but we posted it in the forums. But it was kind of lengthy the and he was having issues. He's a citizen of the Choctaw Nation, apparently. And he, went into the passport office. And, you know, I was trying to interpret the issue he was having via his, you know, his comments and questions, but it appears, they were giving him a hard time being that he was, a citizen of Choctaw Nation giving him a passport. So I don't and I think my question to you, Roger, was would would would he be looked at as a foreign national and have to go through the naturalization process? I think you responded saying that No. The Indians were essentially granted US citizenship anyway. So I don't know. I wanted to bring that up and see if, you know, we could ping the brain trust here Right. And maybe get him an answer.
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Well, I really wanted to bring it up on the air where we got Joe and, Mark with us because those guys are in Oklahoma and much more familiar with this than ourselves. Mark, didn't I thought that they gave all the Indian tribes blanket citizenship in the twenties? Is is that right or or not? That's correct. That yeah. That's correct. It was under, Calvin Coolidge, president Calvin Coolidge. Silent cow.
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Yep. They, instituted the Indian Citizenship Act, in June 1924. And that that was also known as the Snyder Act, and it granted US citizenship to all Native Americans and Alaska nave natives born in The United States.
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Okay. And that was before Alaska was a state, of course. Long before. Right. Fifty years. Right. Or 2025.
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Recognize their legal status as citizens. It did not automatically grant them the right to vote as some states continued to disenfranchise them for many more years. My my grandmother is part Choctaw. My dad is part Choctaw. And,
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so l v l v l v Wilkins.
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Yeah. Yeah. But my grandmother I didn't know this until after her death. She lived to be 102. Oh. She she ended up when when they were shipped to Oklahoma, now she was, I think, born a few years before Oklahoma became a state, 1907. And she ended up in one of these Indian schools where they basically were trying to indoctrinate them with white culture. And she would never talk about being an Indian. And she later told my cousin that they beat the Indian out of her. So if if they tried to resist this, brainwashing indoctrination camps that they were sending them to, they would literally beat them up.
Sounds like the weeders. Whatever it took. Sounds like the weeders. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So but, yeah. They he's whoever that is trying to get a passport, it shouldn't be a problem. Now, it looks like the the Indian tribes are issuing their own version of the passport, but it cannot be used for for, international travel, which I find pretty interesting. Uh-huh. So they're still considered a US citizen. They should still be able to declare their status as a national and apply for a normal US passport using the same information that all of us have been using.
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And if they get a passport card, they should be eligible to travel to Mexico, The Caribbean, and Canada.
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Yep. Yep.
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Okay. Does that you think that might help with that? But I'm glad I was right, Dave. I thought that they gave them citizenship in mass back in the twenties, so I'm glad to know that was correct on my part.
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Yeah. You got your history right.
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So, yeah, you know, I'm reading I'm reading his entry again here, but, I'll kind of read it real quick to y'all. Let's see. I'll kinda jump in. He he had some issues. Initially, he decided to reapply. This time, I drove three hours to the closest passport center to be met with so much aggression and hostility. I was calm, prepared, and had more than enough documentation. The first clerk said, unless you are a Native American, I can't help you. And then after he said, actually, I'm an official member of the Choctaw Nation. She immediately left for her supervisor.
Once again once called up again, she refused to help or share and took she I guess he had sent in for a foyer. He had a foyer letter he had submitted to get, but I took my foyer letter with evidence of zero evidence of being a US citizen and kept telling me the letter is why she won't help me and wouldn't answer any question regarding Native Americans. She then called security and I was escorted out.
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Wow.
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Do you does anyone have any insider info on indigenous people or how this all is going to affect me and the passport? What what do I do?
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Well, first thing I'd suggest is not drive three hours each way, but to get on, find an 800 number and call the passport office and and and put this in front of them and see what kind of answers you get. I would think the first thing or write them a letter and see. Yeah. But they sounds to me like they qualify for a passport.
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Yeah.
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Well, I guess, Bruce. Hey, Bruce. Send your affidavit to the secretary of state's office, and and he'll accept it. He did he did indicate he did that, and he Okay.
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He didn't get anything as normal. You don't get anything back. No. Right. No reply.
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But within thirty days, it's the law. If they don't rebut it Well, I think it's rebut I'll I'll okay. Regardless, he's gotta go the some there's some hang up with the passport office, and I don't understand why they would give him all this problem. Him or her would be So Roger think it's the people there. As I read into this,
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there's always more to the story here. Wait. I sent my letter, notarized my citizenship to the state department. So he's talking about his affidavit. Never heard back. So since they agreed from the silent reply, I moved forward with the passport. Mhmm. Then he indicates I received a letter of denial due to unlawful child support. So that might be it right there. Ah. I quickly I I quickly replied on what rights are being violated, and we'll take this matter to the AG. I received a brief voice mail stating my passport is en route. I had no idea that no confirmation would happen on my national status to be continued in the next comment, and that's when I read about the, his visit to the passport center. So there's probably more to this story, Roger, than, just being, Native American.
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Yeah. That's usually the case date.
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Yeah. Yep. Yep. So but that's the kind of questions we get on the website, and, we try and get them to put those in the forum for people like the group here to help respond and help answer, or I'll bring it try and bring it to the show like I did with this one. And, but yeah.
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He's he's trying. He's trying his best here, I guess. Sounds like he's talking about shoot. That's probably the the skunk in the wood pile right there.
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Yeah.
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So, anyway, thanks for bringing that up, Roger. Yeah. Thank you, Dave, for bringing another unusual And Roger. Situation. Yes, Mark?
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You know, it's it's not just the Native American. You know? There have been other people that went to apply at a passport office. And, usually, they do that for whatever, you know, reason they're they're dealing directly with the passport office and not just mailing something off of application off and hoping that they're gonna get something back, you know. Yeah. And but what where we've been successful in pushing back is when they try to say you gotta be a US citizen. Oh, yeah. I always weave into the response letter. If you're staying, I have no choice but to be a US citizen, then it would appear you're violating the thirteenth amendment against involuntary servitude. And then in brackets, I put slavery.
And every time we fired that off, they've done a one eighty.
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Real quick.
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Real quick. Absolutely. Yep. Comment?
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Now you could also tell them on top of that that you're being an open tyrant on top of violation of thirteenth amendment, both of those. I that I would think would sting some of those people up there. Who had the comment there?
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This is Bob.
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Bob, our buddy. Hey, man.
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Concerning the tally sticks, that's very interesting. I've seen that, Money Masters and all those Bill still did. He's an incredible researcher. I love his work. You know, the the the idea of tying it to crypto, I thought, was very apropos because it the thing about it, it comes down to trust. I hear people say, well, there's no intrinsic value in crypto. Well, no. There's no intrinsic value in a federal reserve note. But yet you use it every day and you don't question it. Uh-huh. Or a piece of hickory. Or a piece of wood. It all comes down to trust. It's simply a mutually agreed on medium of exchange. It's that simple. You can say it has no value. I mean, you could make the case that if people didn't trust gold, forget about the fact that they do. If they didn't, it wouldn't work.
We know it works because it has intrinsic value industrially, and it's very durable. It doesn't corrode easily, etcetera, etcetera. So it's it's it's it's gained that mantle, if you will. But it still comes down to trust. You trust it for better reasons. But if you trusted a Kleenex, it would be money. It's Well it's really not very stable, but it would be money. Another thought, yesterday on the replay, I was listening. The idea or or the thought the concept was brought forward or the fact maybe that briefly the Filipino people were under US custodianship, I guess, is the way I'd put it, And that they were they were able in that capacity to apply for a passport.
And it occurred to me that that's roughly analogous to somebody being naturalized and at that point being able to apply for a passport. Probably. And the reason I mean, they could they could even establish their nationality that way, I would think, although they may not have realized it because it's roughly analogous to the the act of becoming a national through the process of, gaining your citizenship as a foreigner from being a foreigner would be roughly analogous to the I guess, the congress would probably have had to have signed off on those k. Okay. Now these people are under our, you know, jurisdiction or or custodianship.
I guess I'll go back to that word. Anyway, it just occurred to me when you guys were discussing it that it it might be very similar to the idea that a a naturalized citizen could apply then after having gained that status for a nationality.
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I wonder, Bob, and I was thinking about it yesterday and last night of that example that you brought up that somebody mentioned, The Philippines, they were citizens of The United States for a couple of decade or so or more. And I wonder if that's not when that little example from the certificate of noncitizen nationality on the state department website at the bottom where it's got the one sentence disclaimer where it says if you're in the Northern Mariana Islands, I wonder if that wasn't during that time frame and the Northern Marianas were somehow associated with that. Well, they lumped them all together. Well, it's possible. From my own familiar frame is
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Yes. Yeah. The time frame is pretty congruent.
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Yep.
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Isn't that the Nationality Act of 1941?
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'40.
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'40. Okay. Well, that'd be right in the time frame. Yep.
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So that may be the right I don't know. It made me scratch my head.
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Well, it's a I've I've never heard of that. I've never heard that about The Philippines.
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Right. I never had either. So it's kinda new to me too. But I I wanted to correlate it over there in Northern Mariana Islands in that statement, and I have a feeling, a sneaking hunch that that probably is correct. So, yeah. So who else has got a comment or wants to weigh in on this, area we're in right now? Nobody? Okay. It's some this money thing, if you're I I know we we got an update on Todd. Is Todd doing better? Do we know Mary? Are you with us? Any of Todd's group
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that got a update on him? Much better. I got a text this morning. Yeah. I just got a text from him this morning. He's out. He's doing physical therapy, most likely outpatient PT. So he's plugging along. He said he's just, you know, trying to stay as natural as possible.
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Uh-huh. I I hope we can get with Linda and get that, her wand, or he can try and see if it gives him any relief. It very well may. K? So, anyway, well, that was on the MRI on him.
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Uh-huh. He did an MRI on him. Was it yesterday or the day before it came out? I think I I mean, it's a a pretty
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Severe situation. Bulging disc. Yeah. It's a bulging disc. The cartilage there between the discs and, yeah, cool. Tell him, you know, our prayers and thoughts are with him. He may be listening. I don't know. Todd will Oh, I will. Thank you. We hope you get And the money situation, I did have a comment about the money. Yeah.
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Because I'm looking into Bitcoin. I'm looking into Bitcoin and the more I'm like because I don't know much about finances. I do have gold and silver. I did I'm trying to figure out a way to get it here. I think I'm gonna have to roll it over into a different Roth IRA and then have them ship it to me.
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Could be. I gonna have to go. Yeah. I have no expertise in that area at all. I would I never set up any kind of one of those savings accounts or those crooks. I always knew they're gonna steal it.
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Right. So that's what scares me. But Yeah. The Bitcoin, like, looking into that, if yeah. What whatever we give value is gonna be currency. But at the same time too, how is that gonna work if it's all done electronically and they shut the system down?
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Well, they can't really shut the system down, unless they do it on they keep their side open and they shut ours down. That's always a possibility. But, you know, there is a way that even though the Internet is down, you can transfer Bitcoin. Do you all know about that? It was invented, I think, down here in South America a number of years ago, and you get they got a special computer to mine Bitcoin. And you get some kind of a a little computer dongle, and you put it in one of your USB ports, and it connects with other one of those that are within some distance. I don't remember what the distance is, but there is a way around that where you can use it and transfer it even though the Internet may be down.
Okay? I hadn't heard anybody talk about that much last couple years, but that was there about five or six years ago. I just got a 100 and something $500 for $1. Well, I I well, you know, that's the beauty of Bitcoin. You don't have to buy all one. It's indivisible down to income much more so than gold. But, Oh, okay. You know, and you've got children. See? So you've got some progeny and some forward things to think about, and that would be motivation enough, I would think, to to to stick your toe in that water there. But if you do, get some sort of a cold storage wallet and store those things in that and keep it that way, that's in your possession.
Okay? Okay. So, anyway, that is not my the Cybercoins are intriguing. They've got some real good applications. There's some neat things about them. For me personally, at my age with no children, otherwise, than you folks, with no children, I've got enough gold to carry me over. I'm not worried about in other words, another way to rephrase it. At this stage, with my circumstances, I'm not really concerned with upside. Okay? And so I just like to wanna get up out of the bed and stand up every morning. Okay? So I'm not gonna Right. I'm I'm absolutely eyes open. Yes. But I can understand where people would, you know.
So, anyway, that's good for you. Do you know need a decentralized system. Do you know this is a question I wanted to ask you, Mary. Do you understand how the you say you have very little knowledge of finances.
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Do you understand how the financial system works? It's all on credit. I gave you the key about thirty minutes ago. There is no money. There's only credit. Based on bonds. There is no money. Right. That I know. There's only credit. It's all we're the we're the creditors, not the debtors. But they twist it and make us feel that we're the debtors and not the creditors. Well, here's what they do. Loans we take out to buy a car raises the debt ceiling. The more because the more that we borrow, that gives them permission in their minds to borrow from other countries and not pay it back, but yet make us have to pay it back
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on a bond piece of paper because that's all it is. It's bonds. Right? That's right. We'll attach our birth certificate where we're property object. That's the whole thing of what we do is attach you back into this. Right. You see, with them doing this, they they built this whole system and never had to have any money out of their own pockets. And they set themselves up at four or five places where there's nothing but compound interest coming in. I mean, this is slick deal they got going here. K? And, Oh, they're genius. Well, I was good.
Oh, they are. They they've been schooled for thousands of years. And many times, like, the longest empire in the history of the world was the Byzantine Empire. Do you know about that, Mary? And and what they did, the reason they lasted? Well, the well, the reason they lasted twelve hundred years is they wouldn't allow Jews in in in in in politics, in teaching, or in finance, I believe. And they relegated them to not be in those key positions where they could socially influence the culture. And my understanding, they had a a kind of a deal with the Jews. Of course, you never can trust them. Okay. That's long known. But they said if you don't if you don't socially try and socially engineer our society, we won't kill you.
That was the deal. Okay? And so that's part of the reason they lasted so long. But what I was gonna ask you is this is a it's such a slick deal. What if I told you that every loan in America was a fraud?
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Well, it's all backed on fraud.
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Yeah. The world. And here's what they're doing here for this for you, Mary, but it's for the whole audience too. We know that it's not money, it's credit. And that all what we call money or babble bucks is what we used to call them, all babble bucks have to be loaned into circulation. So you have to buy something. They utilize your house or your car or whatever it is as collateral on that loan. In essence, what they're doing is monetizing the value of your collateral because that's what makes up the bulk of the loan is the value of the collateral. Okay? And so they loan that into when you sign the promissory note, that is then what they call monetized. Before that, it's a debt it's a green piece of paper sitting in a warehouse somewhere on a pallet.
After that, it's monetized. And then you go to the bank and you want to borrow because you can't go pay for a house in cash or whatever. Right? And so they do a credit check on you and they come back and they have used they say yes, of course. And, they have you sign this depending you've been through closing of the house, Mary, ever?
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Oh, yeah. With all the paperwork?
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Yeah. That big stack. Yes. Yeah. A couple of inches thick. Right?
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Well, you you I'm sure comes in and sits down down and has you sign a contract that the liar says, AKA lawyer. That's right. Say, yeah. I've been through a closing. It's long and drawn out. Yeah. I said you wish you had a A money that they already received. Well, again, it's not money. It's not worth
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being loaned in the system. Right? Well, the the fake
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but they're going into our trust and getting a check from the Treasury Department and or AKA federal bank. K. Well, I I don't know anything about that. And then we pay with their
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Okay. I don't I don't know anything about it. Operating in the yeah. Okay. But let me just go through this process. This comes from a, Okay. This information comes from a certified public accountant out of Chicago who had qualified himself to do expert witness testimony and earn the big bucks. And his name is is or was, if he's still with us, I hope, Tom Schoff. And, what Tom discovered in doing that was there was no school to certify accountants to do expert testimony. And so he started one. Okay? And he was teaching other accountants, on on all this stuff. And one of the students was a federal regulator.
And he came in, he pulled him aside, and he said, do you know every loan in America is a fraud? And the expert testimony CPA said, what are you talking about? He said, let me show you what they're doing. That's what I'm telling you right here. Okay? So they come in and you sit down. The very first one on that big stack, couple inches thick in a closing, is the promissory note. I, Mary, promised to pay third so many payments to so much principal, so much interest for so many years. Well, that's not the money that they're loaning you. The amount, that's what the payout is. Okay? So what they do is get you to sign that. And when you sign that promissory note, it's now called commercial paper.
Alright? Now here's where you need to know a little bit about accounting and a little bit about law and a little bit about finances. You don't have to know a whole lot, but you need to know a little to understand what's going on. So they get you to sign that promissory note. Now in law, in UCC commercial law, that now becomes a promissory note because you promised to pay, and they're going to hold your feet to the fire on that while Paul bids adieu to our, one hour listeners, and I'll continue on the other side. Paul, if you would.
Paul, are you off chasing the cat? What's going on? Okay. Well, I'm gonna have to say, I pinged W B O U in, Chicago. It's the one we're, waving bye bye at in the rear view mirror. We're gonna go ahead and explain how you've been defrauded your whole damn life along with the rest of the country and how these, fake Jew bankers, mostly Ashkenazi Jews, have, used this technique to enrich themselves, Mary. I'm sure beyond imagination. K? So you sign the promissory note. It is a extended payment plan. And so at that point, you have created the amount that they're going to loan into circulation, and you created it by signing your signature on there. K?
Yep. I promise to pay this. You've created a future income stream. And so now that that currency called this what they call being monetized, it goes from a green piece of paper to something that's accruing compound interest. If you wanna look at it more that way. But that's what they call it, monetized when it's loaned into circulation. Now what they do, Mary, and audience, is they take that value that you've created in that commercial piece of paper, now called up, anyway, I forget. Anyway, they take it back to the financial institution, and they put it on the liability side of the ledger.
You know, double entry bookkeeping, you got assets on one side, and you got liabilities on the other. They're supposed to balance. That was invented in the 1500 by the Medici over somebody over in Florence, I believe. So, anyway, they put that promissory note with that with that extended payout on there, but they put it on the liability side of the ledger. Now that note becomes worth what the eventual payout is. Okay? So they take and discount it into the secondary market. With homes, it all goes to Federal Reserve. With cards and stuff, I don't know. The bank may hold the paper itself and not discount it, but, generally, they discount it. So they discount it to an investor at a discounted price, and then they bring those funds that the investor pays them, and they put them on the asset side of the ledger.
Now they balance, supposedly, probably out of balance. And it's that cash that they get back from selling that in the secondary market that they go over and pay your car dealer with or your guy that built your house or whatever it is you're buying. So that's how the whole thing and then it's got that compound interest attached, but it's only the principal, this loan, into circulation. And then that's where they make money in the out of thin air. Is that interest that's building on that collateralized monetary amount of whatever you purchased? Does that make sense to you, Mary? Well,
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yes. It does. Now I fully understand more. But is that why I watched the documentary the the other day, and this is all going to the attorney general because of the fraud. Is is this why they inflate the prices of the houses?
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Because they're like, how do they Well, that's price inflation. K? It's a result Okay. Of this other inflation. It is what classic inflation definition is too too many pieces of paper chasing too few of goods. And that way, the the person that's selling it, as the value of the circulating currency diminishes, has got to raise his prices to stay in business.
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Okay. Because my mother-in-law Yes. Those are She's in assisted living right now, and they sold her house when she they purchased it in the fifties. Grandpa paid $28,000 for the property for the house. Yep. So it was just a simple, modest ranch. Yep. But it sold for $2.19 Yep. In December 19000.
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That's price inflation. What that represents, you know, every year when they say inflation was 2% this year. So what's or whatever? Well, they're telling you, in other words, the purchasing power of your currency lost two percent this year.
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Oh.
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So when you compile that over decades, that's the difference in those price, determinations. And the the the price of the unit did not go up. Just like gold. Gold doesn't go up. What it does is it shows you the comparison within the money that is purchased with. For example, if I go back to Rome, two thousand years ago, take an ounce of gold, buy a nice toga, nice belt, some nice sandals, go out and have a nice dinner. I take an ounce of gold to New York City today, go buy a nice suit, get some nice shoes and a belt, and go out and take you out for a nice dinner. This purchasing power, not numbers.
This is where they had Vegas. Just a second, Larry. This is where they had Vegas. K? So when gold goes up, the price of gold has not gone up. The value of the currency that is being purchased with has gone down. It's more of this dialectic stuff, and you you if you think about it, you'll get it. Okay? But we're they've always got us looking in the wrong direction. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. I think the word you're looking for is negotiable instrument. When you sign a promissory note, it becomes a negotiable instrument. Yeah. And there's a lot of patriots out there that are teaching, that you can create your own negotiable instrument, but the system has been set up in such a way that the banks will not accept them. The the the negotiable instrument has to be created through the bank after you sign a promissory note. Okay. You want an example of for the patriots that are trying that? Go look at the cover of Byron Dale's book, Bashed by the Bankers.
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Go look at that before you launch off on that. K?
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Hey, Roger.
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Yes.
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Is that William? I just wanna interject. No. This is David Wagner. Well,
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if something tickled Julie, we'll get back to her in a second. Go ahead, mate.
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Look at the bed. Look at the cover of the book.
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Well, I'm telling you that's how serious they take this stuff. You go ahead and do it if you want to. Cool. Yes. What, Dave?
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I you know, regarding regarding the the mortgage topic, you know, it's amazing how this message resonates with with people, how you end up, they end up hearing about it. And I I see that because we're currently refinancing. We're consolidating, two mortgages. We've been with the Farm Credit, which essentially credit union for four years, and we're gonna consolidate into one. And, but anyway, hopefully, if silver keeps going up, we won't worry about that either. But in any case, when, in being a veteran, I initially went to a veteran, specific veteran loan, mortgage company, and it it sent their head spinning when I mentioned to them that I was a national. Number one, they didn't know what that was. They couldn't understand it because I was a former army officer. How can you be anything by The US citizen? Right? And, when I mentioned when I tried to explain the nonresident, alien factor to it where I wasn't paying any federal income tax. Of course, they wanna see all your numbers. Right?
And not that it hurt from the standpoint of not having to pay taxes on from the standpoint of your income. It helped. Right? It threw them for a loop because they all I could hear in their in the voice was how in the heck did you do this? Like, they wanted to know how I did it. Right? Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. And because they were wanting to figure out how they could not pay federal income tax. Right? There you go. But in any case, yeah. So anyway, I I'm trying not to make it too long a story, but when they pulled my credit, both my wife and I have what I call zero credit because long time ago, we gave up credit cards and no debt, nothing negative, but it was very low because I have no revolving credit whatsoever. Now my credit union doesn't report my payments, which is really good because I wouldn't ended up going back to them because they already have established credit, but they wanted they wanted to understand how I was a nonresident alien. So I provided my affidavit. I provided them copy of my notice to the IRS. I showed them my w two's, not showing any, federal income tax being withheld. And I I think they're just floored. They can't it's almost unbelievable to them because it's no one no one's ever done this with them. But, anyway, I just wanted to bring that up because it's kind of coincidental you're talking about this right when we're going through it working with these mortgage folks. Anyway, sorry.
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Dave, you know, and I we've explained it on the show here before. We got an expert, miss Julie, here with us. It's Herb Ballywick. Yep. Do you how mortgages are structured? I mean, it is really insidious. They set this up. First of all, before, the bankruptcy, we didn't have any thirty year mortgages. I don't believe they were all ten years, and they were mostly carried by the bank that it was issuing the credit. That's Jimmy Stewart's It's a Wonderful Life where the people in the community make the deposits. They turn around, loan the deposits out. Well, it's a whole different animal now. K? And in this thirty year loan era, what they do, Mary, is I'm I'm sure you don't know this, but it's just when you sign that promissory note, that mortgage is structured, let's say, over thirty years.
For the first fifteen years, you hardly pay any of the amount that they loaned you, that you created when you signed the note. And, like, you may just be paying 25¢ on the principal. The whole rest of your payments for fifteen years at least are mostly principal. And and no. Excuse me. Interest. You pay off the interest out front, then in the last fifteen years, it tapers into the, principal. That's why you can pay an extra payment a year Out of twelve months, you just pay an extra payment, and you'll drop that loan to a fifteen year loan, in essence, because any extra principal payments are then taken to the back end of the loan after you've paid the monthly payment with the with the interest involved for them, the vigorous, as they call it. Then you just once a year throw in an extra payment, and then it goes right back to the back of that loan and come straight off the principal, reducing your principal amount by that much, and that shortens the term of the loan. The whole thing, knowing they know that the average, mortgagee only stays in a house seven years.
And so all they're doing is just getting seven years pure ass interest.
[01:12:40] Unknown:
It was, yeah, it was originally thirty year mortgage. And, yeah, I knew that that you don't even touch the principal, and it's the same with the car note. So, like, we have a truck, which $20.26 is my last payment, for the truck. But what I did was with the truck is I I split it in half. So instead of paying once a month on the truck payment, I split that payment in half. So the first half goes to the to the interest, the second half goes to the principal
[01:13:10] Unknown:
to build up the equity within the truck. Oh, so Right. There's some ways paid that off a long time ago. Right. There's some really We don't have more ways anymore. So to fool with it. But most people don't understand what they're getting into. Of course, right now, most people can't buy anything else. Who is trying to say something right there?
[01:13:28] Unknown:
I was just gonna say, Roger, that when you do make those additional payments, you have to instruct them specifically to apply it to the principal because they won't necessarily do that. They'll apply it to the entirety of the loan, which doesn't affect
[01:13:43] Unknown:
the specific that effect. Right?
[01:13:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's gotta be taken straight off the prison. They're gonna do that. You gotta tell them to do it.
[01:13:51] Unknown:
Bunch of banditos. Roger, I've had people I've had people do the very same thing. They paid over a year. I taught them There was a there was a financial guy named Charles j Givens back in the eighties and nineties, and he talked about getting the amortization schedule from your bank on your loan. And he would show you that the difference between how much interest was being taken out of your your payments and how much principal was being applied to the loan. And so what he would teach was like, well, whatever extra money you had, you just take like the next three months worth of principal payments and pay it with your normal payment. And you do that every month, you know.
And I I told a coworker that and they got excited because we we kind of started figuring out what their loan would be. Of course, now we got all kinds of software to do all that for you. But it was gonna shave off many years of of the payments for him. It was gonna really get him down to, like, I think below fifteen years. He was excited. At the end of the year, he gets a he gets a letter from his bank, and they wanna know what do you want us to do with this extra money. And he was furious. So you really gotta do like Dave said, absolutely gotta stay on there. Stay on them and make sure that they're applying it to the balance of your loan, your principal balance, I yield.
[01:15:18] Unknown:
Now we got into Mark. Yes, Larry. Go ahead.
[01:15:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Can you go over again? I don't know if Julie heard it. Didn't we have a a guest on the show one time? And I can't I think it was a he. He explained how to pay off a mortgage pass. Okay. That's exactly where I was going. Do you remember that that story? Well, it wasn't it wasn't.
[01:15:41] Unknown:
Yes. I do. And that's what I was ironically about to bring up, because I mentioned it to one of the guys. Remember the guy that was on here said he never wanted to see me again? He was a real estate professional in Virginia. And I sat down and tried to explain this to him at lunch. They'd never heard of it before. Okay. Me either up to that point. Ebert is the guy that brought it forward to us. He used to sell this to people evidently a couple of decades ago, and it depends on what type of mortgage you get. And it's who and it is in the contract who assigns per principal prepayments.
If you make a principal prepayment, which is what we're talking about. Right, pay an extra payment a year, etcetera. If you make an extra principal prepayment, who determines where that goes? And evidently, it's in contracts. Okay? And if you can find one that allows you to assign principal prepayments instead of the financial institution, you got something going. Because what you do is let's say there's 360 payments in a thirty year mortgage. You're gonna go into that mortgage and find early on. I think you gotta pay one payment first of full, but you can go forward from there and find out, like, payment number two or number three and look on the amortization schedule.
And that payment only includes, let's say, 50¢ worth of interest or the principal. K? And so you prepay that specific slice of the 360 degree bread, if you wanna look at it that way. Of these 360 slices, you go in and pay that slice. And what you do is you pay the, you only pay the 50¢. And they haven't gotten there. You know, with interest, the reason interest is always charged in arrears. Rent is always charged out front. And the reason is they can't charge you interest on something you hadn't used yet. K? So interest is always paid in arrears.
And as you hadn't reached that third payment yet, so you just go in and pay the 50¢ and it wipes that payment out. And you can knock a knock a mortgage down to nothing and save a ton of money or any other loan if it's got that clause in it the way I understand it.
[01:18:11] Unknown:
That's correct. As long as it doesn't have a prepayment or early payment penalty. Yeah. You know, you can certainly do that. Hey, Roger. This is William.
[01:18:22] Unknown:
Hey, William. Hey, buddy. How are we doing? Hey.
[01:18:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to pipe up. I've got a, first lien HELOC, home equity line of credit on the first lien position. And, I'm on track to pay off my mortgage in about five years.
[01:18:39] Unknown:
Okay. Something along the line.
[01:18:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It's, it's an alternative to a mortgage. So, basically, the bank will lend you in a line, 90% of the appraised value of your home. And then, and then you only pay interest on the portion of the line that's outstanding. And, basically, you just use a line of credit to pay off your mortgage or to pay for your house, and, the bank holds it in the first lien position.
[01:19:08] Unknown:
Well, the first thing is they don't loan you money. You do you loan them the access to the process when you sign that promise. Right. K. Right. But yeah. I guess there's some ways to deal with this. You can go find private money for a mortgage too. If you don't wanna go through a bank, whatever you got in your, you might not have past tax returns or whatever. You can go find private money for that too. In other words, I'll let's do that. Yeah. You do that? Yeah. I had to do I had to do that. I had to do that for, about two or three years
[01:19:41] Unknown:
until I would qualify for a mortgage because, I I was living on family property and I had a farm and black Angus beef cows. And, so all the income that I had, they were from my little business and then I would write it off. And then what was left, I would write off on the farm. So I really didn't have a whole lot of income, that was taxable. And, and the bank, they don't look at they don't look at your income. They look at your taxable. So Yeah.
[01:20:09] Unknown:
That's first thing they ask for, isn't it?
[01:20:13] Unknown:
Yep. What what's your AGI?
[01:20:15] Unknown:
Yeah. And, of course, all monetary system is structured by them on this, and they know how to lock you right in there. K?
[01:20:23] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:20:24] Unknown:
But best thing is all I can say. Well, that's good. Thank you, William. Good to hear you. Good good connection today. The other thing that you can you might wanna do, and I would imagine if you've got a finite amount of currency, whether you're gonna pay off your debts and be debt free or invest that in something like Bitcoin, gold, or silver. And I guess that's your choice. But, being out of debt is a really big you know, they can only control people two ways, by debt or by force. And they've chosen debt, obviously. So, that's what we do. We we relieve you from that. If you're new and listening, what we, in essence, do when you boil it down is the big thing we do is we unhitch you from the debt wagon.
You're no longer having to pull that debt wagon of this prosecuted. Fraudulent debt. Yes, Joan. How are you today?
[01:21:23] Unknown:
Great. Did you and Mark hey, Mark. Did y'all say that I mean okay. Maybe you didn't say it, so I'm just gonna ask a question. Is it possible to get a mortgage, where the part of, that what you want to do, what you tell the banker what I tell the banker would be, okay. I want it set up so that all my payments are going toward interest I mean, a principal? All my payments are going toward principal?
[01:21:58] Unknown:
Your extra payments. You wanna make sure that all your extra payments are going to principals. Yep. And I would say follow-up in three months and and make sure that that they're doing so.
[01:22:10] Unknown:
And ask them if they've got a con a mortgagee or an underwriter with that ability in the contract where you can assign future principal payments.
[01:22:25] Unknown:
K?
[01:22:26] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:22:28] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Yep. Hey. I doubt you'll find one, but you might. Okay? I don't know. I don't know how this is. I've never even heard of it, before Hebrew brought it up that day. It took me a little while to get my arms around it, quite frankly, and understand it. But it's, Well, what if
[01:22:46] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am? They sell your more okay. When they sell okay. Because my son bought a house a couple he it's unheard of that a 23 21 year old kid buys a house. But he thought it was cheaper to buy than pay rent to somebody, and he'd rather own it someday. But they sold his mortgage, like, three times. Sure. That's that And each mortgage company they sell it to each mortgage company they're selling it to, his payment is now on top of the taxes. For a small two bedroom house is, like, for $950. He only paid 82,000 for the house.
I mean, it's like they can't like, you didn't contract with these people. You contracted with the original mortgage company. So how can they get away with that? I yield. Well, that's the whole 2,008
[01:23:35] Unknown:
scam. They're, I guess, still trying to figure out with how they assign these mortgages and the tranches, and why didn't they change them at the local level where they have to, and why weren't those taxes paid, who owes those taxes when they did do it. There's all kinds of crap still wrapped up in that to my understanding, Mary. I just don't have any direct answers for you. I have very little expertise in that area. It's a big scam. It's more you know, I don't know if I told you this or not. You heard this. I had a Jewish roommate for five years. He was my boss at the Art Institute of Atlanta. Good guy.
And when he moved, he had left all a bunch of crap in his basement like other people did in my basement. And so when I was gonna sell the house, I had to clean all that up, and I was looking through the it was an old set of encyclopedias. He he was born and raised in Brooklyn, and, his parents had bought him years ago when he was young for the Internet. And, they were from background eternal last century. And, so, therefore, they had not taken over the publishers and altered everything. Well, I was sitting there, and I always look at either resident or Jew in in those two words keywords.
So I looked under Jew. There's about 30 pages in there. Boy, I wish I'd saved that volume because I don't remember what all they said. But I do remember this, Mary. The Jews were hated in Russia for stealing people's houses. Yep. Same bunch, same thing over and over and over and over again. That's him. K. So that's, the best answer I can give you. Who else has got something along these lines? Are you wanna change something or whatever? There's somebody right there. Sounds like is that sketch?
[01:25:36] Unknown:
Yep. And, I think the term is securitization is what they're doing. And, yes, it is kind of illegal because they don't have the original note. But, I did wanna mention you mentioned Tom Shaw. He wrote two books or Yeah. Two manuals. One, the top secret banker's manual and also another paper called American voters versus the banking cartel or something like that. And I put them in the chat. And an other comment, you mentioned Nepal. Yes, sir. And guess who visited Nepal from the state department that's known for causing problems two years ago?
[01:26:23] Unknown:
Victoria. Newland. Newland. Newland went over there? Yeah. Well, it's probably two years ago. Backwards. Okay, William. I'm sure her fingers are in it somewhere. Oh, that's a bitch. You need Victoria and her real name is Noodleman. Victoria Yes. Noodleman. They were from the Ukraine, and her whole family are devout Trotskyites.
[01:26:49] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. And I'm sure they I mean, it it it involved, the in the the what's it called? The, media, not the the telephone media. And Oh, social media.
[01:27:06] Unknown:
Well, what's happened is media. Yes. They have cut that off is what really caused this. Finally, the country under some duress, and they cut off all social media. That's what caused this full blown thing is my understanding.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. And she's very good at using the power to get involved with the social media to overthrow countries, I believe.
[01:27:31] Unknown:
Yeah. She's a a little Jewish. See you next Tuesday.
[01:27:37] Unknown:
And one last thing. France is cook France is breaking out with a new new, protest called block everything, and they're in the streets right now.
[01:27:50] Unknown:
Well, just like I said, so we're leading up to something like we were a couple years ago. You got France there. You got England coming up Saturday. There's no telling what other capitals of Europe may join in with all this. But we're in really interesting times, folks. Really interesting times.
[01:28:08] Unknown:
Yep. Might end.
[01:28:11] Unknown:
Yep. Alright. Who else got yes. There's a comment right there. Is that Tom d?
[01:28:17] Unknown:
No. Hey, Roger. This is Wayne up in Texas. Hi, Wayne. Hey, buddy. Yeah. Thanks. I've taken the call. I was just gonna chime in on a couple of things here. Number one, I know there's a lot of good documentaries out there, but I would highly recommend folks go back to that great taking documentary. Yeah. It was done by David Webb. And he also did a couple great interviews with ITM trading with a lady named Daniella Cambone where they kinda cut down some of the they cut it down to the basics about what's going on. But, I just feel it's so important because as we anybody had studied this, it seems now that, a lot of our investments, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, if it's held by your securities firm in street name, it's no longer you don't have legal title anymore.
You're just what's called a beneficial owner. If they pledge, if they loan out that collateral or monetize in some way, if there's a problem, you're going to lose a ton of money because you're not going to get it back. It might take a few years, but if ever. And I just think that documentary really opened the eyes of a lot of people because I know Andy Shekman's talked about it, Bill Holter, everybody that's in the forefront of what's going on here, they all know, the ramifications of this particular type of technique that they can pull on us. And I'm not sure if a lot of people know that. You see the, Bill Holter interview on, Chihuahua, Sunday? Not yet. I I pretty much looks at everything he does because, again, he he and Sheckman are way ahead of the curve and I would recommend to folks stay away from some of these folks like this, Jeff Berwick and others. All they're gonna do is distract you and talk about conspiracies and all that crap. The main thing now is protecting your money and that's why again understanding the ramifications of great taking could very well let's save folks a ton of money. The other issue was that bank bail ins like you've talked about, people need to realize it's the same principle. You give bank your money, you give the bank your money Again, it's no longer yours. You know, you're not the legal owner. They they are the you're just now a beneficial owner, and it's very, very critical
[01:30:29] Unknown:
to what, folks are looking for. And the way I understand it, Wayne, there's the derivatives that have prop that situation up. When you put your money in a bank, they've got these banks in total and debt levered up with all these derivatives. I liken a derivative to a seesaw in the child playground when you're young. And the up part is connected to the the down part is connected to the bank. And so when this thing flips, the bank's gonna take all that through the derivatives, and they're gonna issue you certificates of a worthless bankrupt bank.
[01:31:10] Unknown:
That's exactly right. That documentary?
[01:31:13] Unknown:
Do that kind, sir?
[01:31:15] Unknown:
The The Great Taking to watch? The Great Taking by David Webb.
[01:31:20] Unknown:
Yeah. He he was interviewed about a year ago or something. Right? Yeah. I'm sure you could find it in a search.
[01:31:28] Unknown:
I heard And and the original the original documentary is a little bit long. That's why I kinda, pushed folks towards, ITM trading, Daniella Camboni. She's, again, interviewed him two or three times, and it kinda narrow down the focus of what what's going on to make it understandable for a lot of folks. But, I think it's one of the most significant documentaries that's out there now. And the other ones mentioned earlier are great for historical purposes, but the great taking is here and now. This is what's gonna slam dunk a lot of people.
[01:31:59] Unknown:
And they basically moved everything under where they've got like, the like Wayne said, you've got beneficial ownership. They've got real ownership. And when it comes to a gelding time at the Okay Corral, your nuts are gonna get cut off. Yeah, Julie? When somebody's trying to say something.
[01:32:20] Unknown:
Yeah. David Webb hooked up with, Jared Griffith, and, he came over to The United States. He lives, I think, in Sweden or Switzerland.
[01:32:37] Unknown:
To Are you American though?
[01:32:40] Unknown:
He's American. Yes. But he moved he moved out of out of the country, I think. But he came back in the country to, go to every state and, try and get people to change the UCC article eight where there is in, in this every state legislation, there's an exception, for property rights and that they can take them, if there's, bankruptcy. And he tried to come in and and lobby the, or help people lobby the legislators to get that exception out. So they the the homeowners were first in line, and I don't I think he's only accomplished it in, like, one or two states. But, and on the, ITM trading video, g f g w Griffith was supposed to be on that show with him, but somehow he got canceled. But it was interesting that there they hooked up together trying to change the legislation in every state Yeah. Under the UCC a article eight. I yield.
[01:33:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger, Sketch is right on that because, one of the interviews I heard with David Webb, he and his cohorts went went to the Tennessee legislature. And they had some folks that were really understanding what was going on, and they tried to push some legislation through there. But the banking industry and their lawyers came down so hard on them, they in effect threatened to screw up the whole banking environment in Tennessee if they were trying to do this. So that's how serious it's gotten that the banking industry is bringing in heavy hitters from their, you know, New York or wherever, and they're just laying it out saying, hey. You guys go down this road. You're gonna be very, very sorry as far as your banking institutions.
[01:34:37] Unknown:
Well, we're we're real close to something. Would you agree with that, Wayne? I don't know before the end of the year or not, but we're real close to something financially catastrophic, I feel.
[01:34:50] Unknown:
Well, I think, again, if they cut the rates here, maybe, maybe not, I think that could start a real, you know, big time issue where it's gonna really start to get bigger and bigger because again I think it's going to push precious metals up and everything else and it could start to impact some other issues. And I don't know the whole thing behind it, but I think from what I understand it could be very detrimental to the industry in general. But here's the thing too Roger, the central banks around the world are not buying Bitcoin and other digital air like Bill Miller calls it. They're buying gold and silver to back up their reserves.
So if you're gonna do anything, do what the smartest people in the world are doing. Okay? And, basically, I think that's, you know, it was a real clue for me when I heard that. Well, you know, one of the things I forget, was it Catherine Austin fifth? She's fairly
[01:35:48] Unknown:
negative on Bitcoin. And she was bringing up the the black BlackRock and think opened up some sort of a Bitcoin ETF relatively recently. And when they put the prospectus out in the fine print, they can print more than than 21,000,000 Bitcoin. Yeah. Create. They can create better word. They can create more than what is publicly said is is a ceiling now. And that was in the prospectus where BlackRock got a Bitcoin ETF. I I believe they got it opened. Of course, they did.
[01:36:30] Unknown:
So anyway Exactly. Exactly. And and one thing about, you know, this subject, Roger, that that what Shkmeid talked about that really, hit me was when you talk about precious metals, it's historical, it's been in value for centuries, it has universal acceptance, you can go anywhere and trade what you have, it retains purchasing power like you were talking about and the big, big thing is no counterparty risk. If you have it in your possession, in privacy, yes. But again, the risk part is everything because everything folks have in the Internet or in banking whatever, there's a fair amount of counterparty risk there. And like that Bank of Oklahoma Bank in Oklahoma that went belly up, I think some folks there had a head haircut because FDIC didn't cover everything, and they had to take a hit on what they had higher balance than 250,000.
[01:37:25] Unknown:
I hadn't heard one of the banks in okay went up belly up.
[01:37:30] Unknown:
Well, it was a few months ago. Mark may know about it, but it didn't
[01:37:34] Unknown:
I I didn't know about the a few months ago. I do know that, back during the savings and loan debacle, we had a a big savings and loan bank here in Poncey that failed. And,
[01:37:47] Unknown:
there's a lot of people that lost money in that as well. Oh, yeah. I can look it up. I I know for a fact that there was one. And, again, it was you know, they're not they're gonna they're not gonna publicize what's going on here. You know? They're not gonna when the big banks go down, they're, you know, they're not gonna say a whole lot about it. People gonna have to do some digging. Let me tell you a little story about that savings and loan fee fiasco.
[01:38:09] Unknown:
That was Silverado. If you remember, it was one of the bush people on that one, I believe, in Colorado. The radio station that I started at in Panama City was called WDLP. It was a a a 5,000 watt day timer down on the low end of the dial, had good range. And, so I worked there with a guy who was the son of a gal who lived down the street from my mother when she grew up. So they we knew each other. And his name was AD, and his initials, that's what they called him. Anyway, he worked through a good jock. And years later, I crossed paths with him, and he had bought he had bought that radio station, WDLP. They traded it since to the college down there and took got their FM, and the college got this good AM low end dial signal. Anyway, he was telling me he said, yeah. Well, we bought it out of the savings and loan fiasco.
Or they were they were paying on it and had bought it, and then that happened. Well, they got contacted by a representative out of Dallas, Wayne, over there by you, who came down there to talk to him and said, well, look. Here's just keep paying your payments. And they go, well, we need a payment book. You know? Okay. Well, we'll send you one. And so he leaves and their never book never came. And so they went a little ways longer, and they started saying, well, in this they'd put a enclosures. This is the last payment I'm paying unless I get a coupon book. And it never came, and they never paid any more payments, and nobody ever came to them. They got the damn radio station virtually for free.
[01:39:52] Unknown:
Wow. Amazing. Amazing. So I'll jump off. Right? Just wanted to, make a couple points here and then, let the folks get in. So thank you. Okay. Always great to hear your voice, Wayne.
[01:40:04] Unknown:
Julie's gonna get you. What what you got, girl?
[01:40:09] Unknown:
I just wanted to say that, you know, Wayne's correct. We are not gonna know what they're doing. I mean, don't forget during the Great Depression, you know, Roosevelt had a huge problem. He had his income tax revenue was declining, but the debts were soaring. And what did he do? He closed all the banks. He took everyone's gold out of safe deposit boxes. And for every, one ounce of gold, he gave them 20 paper dollars. And then what does he do? He issues an executive order and says, oh, our gold is no longer valued at $20 an ounce. It's gonna be $35 an ounce now. People were outrageous because, you know, he only paid them 20. So he basically, you know, devalued the currency by 75%.
And the next year, all the people took the hit with the inflation, that occurred. And, so, you know, we don't know what these banks are capable of doing. And and and number two, if you look at the Genius Act, specifically says in that Genius Act who's gonna be buying The United States debt, it's gonna be the banks. They're gonna in order to issue stablecoins, they're gonna be backed by United States Federal Reserve notes and by US Treasury bills and bonds.
[01:41:22] Unknown:
Yeah. But Roosevelt didn't do all that. His Jew money handlers behind him directed him to do all that. Well, yeah. I that's the same thing going on here too, though. They are all these all handlers, these are all puppets for his English. Of course. Alright. Who was trying the guy trying to get something in there?
[01:41:39] Unknown:
Roger.
[01:41:40] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, there was a guy trying to say something I thought. Maybe not. Yes, Joan?
[01:41:46] Unknown:
Roger, I wanted to ask Dwayne if that Daniella lady at ITM is an agent that can that we can buy gold and silver coins from. Carbon carbon
[01:42:00] Unknown:
I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are.
[01:42:05] Unknown:
Yes. Just to answer the question, yes, ITM is very reputable. They've been around a long time and they had Lynette Zhang, as their main spokesman for YouTube, for quite a while, but she left on and went on her own. But I do know that people that I've referred to, they're very happy with their service and from the beginning to the end, everything was exactly as they promised and the folks were happy with their purchase. So I might Joan, I might be able to get you a contact as I recall from there, but, I have to look it up.
[01:42:41] Unknown:
I'd say her name is Daniella. What's her last name? No. Daniella Cambione,
[01:42:47] Unknown:
c a m b I o n e. She's just the main interviewer that brings on she brings on some great interviews, Deborah Griffin. She's had them all on. And, but as far as on trading and purchasing, there's other folks there to handle that. And, like I say, these guys are out of Phoenix, Arizona, and, they're very solid. They're one of the more solid companies I've come across.
[01:43:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Maybe Lynette Zhang can hook up with Owen Shroyer and start a network. Go ahead, Joan.
[01:43:16] Unknown:
I just wanna say yes. I I I I have an agent there at ITM. Thank you.
[01:43:22] Unknown:
Okay. Good deal. Alright, Joan. Your phone's particularly good on Fidelity today. Yes. Sketch out.
[01:43:32] Unknown:
Yes. I I saw a, short excerpt from one of the financial guys in China, and he said that what America's going to do is they're gonna put that $35,000 in debt into, like, stablecoins and detonate it.
[01:43:54] Unknown:
I thought that was very interesting. Could be. Don't know. They got they got two. One's backed by gold, and one's backed by bonds, my understanding. So, anyway, what what else can we cover here at the last show? It's, it's a heck of a time for us, folks. We don't, by any chance, have any new students that have been lurking there with a question, do we? I'm obligated to ask. Nope. Fell on deaf ears again. Well, if you're out there and you're lurking and you're you're scared, you can ask any of these other people. There have been no direct or indirect consequences from them filing this paperwork and declaring their freedom because there can't be.
And the reason there can't be is because what settled laws, who you choose to give you rights and owe duties to is your choice And your choice alone. You've been honed but but but what? Boonswoggled. Boonswoggled. And that's the one I was looking for, orange swoggled into volunteering into this mess with these split tongue devils, and we're telling you the good news is you can get your ass out. It's easy. It's inexpensive. It's nonconfrontational, and it's a there ain't very many things guaranteed in this world. This is death taxes and you get out of slavery. Yes, ma'am. What you got?
[01:45:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna let I just posted in the FCC chat, another book by Tom Schaff. It's called cancel bank loans without going to court. So for anybody who's interested, it's in the SEC.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
I was going to say Jim Ram had one of the some of his books or all of them and had signed a do not disclose and honored it. But somewhere in Jim's estate, whoever got into that got ahold of those.
[01:45:58] Unknown:
So anyway And what does How do you spell his last name? R a a m?
[01:46:03] Unknown:
Oh, Ram. No. R a m m e r m one m. He was one of our broadcasters. He followed me for years here. Big longevity guy. Had his own health thing over on frequency, well, some radio network, and, he just passed away about six months ago, unfortunately.
[01:46:26] Unknown:
Good guy with The last name is r a m, and he wrote books?
[01:46:30] Unknown:
No. No. He did radio programs. He had Tom Shoff's books that he had purchased Oh. A while back. That's what I was trying to say. And I don't know. I didn't have any connection with his wife. She didn't really caught into a lot of the stuff we do is what I kinda took it. But regardless, he had those books.
[01:46:55] Unknown:
I think Brent is trying to get his hands on that library.
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Your dyihelp.com,
[01:47:02] Unknown:
I think, is his website. Yeah. Good guy. We miss we miss him. He's a retired, sergeant from, the period of time, his career in police department there in Ohio. So, yeah, we we miss him. Where else can we, go here? Somebody got comment or question. Been a good show, especially on this monetary, financial system. I don't think you can discuss it enough or understand it, well, enough, really, but the whole thing's based on what our slavery. So this and people say what happens when you you know, I hear that question. Well, what happens when you become a national? Well, it releases you from all federal regulatory authority and state regulatory authority, except for those two sections of the internal revenue code. Obscure.
[01:47:57] Unknown:
Really, only one.
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So, anyway, that's what it does. Okay. Hold on, Julie. Julie. Yes?
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Statutes too?
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Text you out from under No. There because there's no. Because there are some statutes that are legitimate that came over positive law statutes in the, USC, universe, United States code. Well, those are taken directly from the statutes at large, so they're constitutional. And, yeah, those could apply to you, but not the regulations. It's that series of books under the statutes, the regulations that are promulgated by the agencies that we remove ourselves from.
[01:48:41] Unknown:
What about policies?
[01:48:44] Unknown:
Well, those are those are policies. Regulations, rules, policy, public policy, those are all the same thing.
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It's so it's okay.
[01:48:57] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. No. Hold it, Joan. I want a follow-up question. This is really important that you and the others understand. There's three sets of law books in the law library. The statutes at large, the organic law supposedly assumed to be constitutional. The United States code, which is Roman civil law infusing the UCC in there, which some of it is constitutional and other ones don't apply to you, like title 26. It doesn't apply to you at all anymore except for those two sections. And then underneath that, they take those statutes and promulgate regulations further.
Okay? So those are the three. The code of federal regulations is one. Those are, regulations or rules or policies promulgated by the administrative state, the deep state. The middle set of law books, The United States code, which can be positive law and can be nonpositive law, and then the original statutes at large where everything is consumed to be constitutional, presumed, k, until proven otherwise. So what you we release from are those regulatory statements, thousands, tens of thousands of pages of regulations, which are promulgated by unelected bureaucrats.
And they take the law the legislative per product, the laws passed by the legislator to go through these law books, and then they, at the end, take and reinterpret them according to subject matter and promulgate regulations they attach to the slaves like you used to be, hopefully.
[01:50:47] Unknown:
Capiz? Okay. So I just don't know, yeah, about the slave. Yeah. But so policies, I just don't know the difference in definitions between policies and regulations. Policy.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Public Well, all these regulations, Joan, are public policy. They're they're regulations promulgated by unelected bureaucrats, reinterpreting legislation, and applying it to the serfs. That's what it is.
[01:51:14] Unknown:
So so so so nationals
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are under What they're doing is changing the labels here. That's what's confusing you. They're all the same thing.
[01:51:29] Unknown:
So nationals are under some policies and not under other policies? No. Not Joan.
[01:51:37] Unknown:
Policies are only instituted by through the administrative state, to my knowledge. K? That's all the agencies. Their pod their the if you go into the federal register, you'll see that there's rules. There's regulations. There's several different types of regulations. We've go gone over that in-depth here a number of times. There's ones that are substantive. There's ones that are interpretive. There's ones that are just statements of policy internally for the agency. In inter interpretive regulations are also only interagency. It's only those last ones, substantive regulations, which have to go through a whole another sequence of due process inside the federal register in the agency called notice and comment.
So they've got a whole another due process level built into these substantive regulations because they apply to everybody. Now those are really public policy because they're truly for everybody. K? They have to go through a totally different type of promulgation process before they can apply to everybody. So there's just it's all public policy here.
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Okay.
[01:53:04] Unknown:
Thank you. Yes. Who else? Rod. Yes. Mer. Let me go with the female sketch. You've been in two or three times. Yes, ma'am?
[01:53:16] Unknown:
Yes, Myr. I just wanted to put a little point on here. Jim Ma'am, passed on Mother's Day, May 11. He had been, declining in health and, his wife, being a a nurse for many decades, and the pastor, they insisted he go into the hospital. And so he died the next day. So, there you go. But, they said it was congestive heart failure, and, perhaps so. But there were there are some other things that went on. But, anyway but what I want to say about him is his fairness. Okay. He would present things and, you know, he'd lived in the in Rolex, things that which really did make him healthy before when he was sick, but he had a tendency to kind of experiment on himself a little bit sometimes. Like Wallach And and as a police
[01:54:09] Unknown:
Wallach probably put a decade on his life. Go ahead, Myr.
[01:54:13] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, you know about that. Yeah. But the thing I found really interesting was when there's a lot of this hoopla and censoring going on, he ref he just calmly refused to be censored and started doing his own on broadcast.
[01:54:29] Unknown:
You know, he left to give his up. He was not censored. Not him.
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Not him. Not him.
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Pardon me? Yeah.
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Nobody Not him. Censored. Nobody was censored. There was an individual that continually caused problems, and he was kicked out. Nobody stopped any information from flowing except that was associated with him. He was the problem here.
[01:54:57] Unknown:
Well, I'm sure glad that Jim Rand picked up the ball because we've learned a lot from this individual. So Okay. And, Whatever. It's it's If you keeps being a keeps being a good thing just like you're doing here is a good thing. But I I something that eats at me and you're gonna hate me for this because I'm the, you know, the people that'll work with him that he doesn't shit on and step all over. He can maybe get his message out. Go ahead.
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Okay. Well, I don't I don't see that happening anyway. Big different personalities. Me. I was the first one it happened to. Paul English was the second one it ever happened to. And if you can imagine Paul English getting unbelievably upset, that happened. That's the only time I've ever seen him upset ever. Okay? Well, there's another name here that's
[01:55:45] Unknown:
there's another name here, a publisher that we're not gonna discuss, but he was the impetus in the problems with everything, and he's still doing
[01:55:54] Unknown:
things that anything to do with me and my problem and my problem was very similar to Paul's, except not as bad. It's okay.
[01:56:02] Unknown:
Personal testimony. I'm saying the thing. Yeah, I'm saying the thing with Paul was, it related to this publisher. But, anyway
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Good.
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You know, I'm the school mom, and you're gonna hate me for it as usual, but I can't stand the way you pronounce that word.
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What?
[01:56:18] Unknown:
Promo it's promulgate.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
I Promogate. Well, I'm gonna continue to pronounce it the way I always have. Promo gated. Promo gated. Same thing. Did you say it again? Aluminium. Aluminum. Aluminum. Okay.
[01:56:36] Unknown:
Uh-huh. You were saying you were saying promo gate, and you changed it. Right? After I said it, you said promo. Yep. So thank you very much. Uh-huh. See, I I look I look at all you guys as being professors and being very valuable whether or not you're at loggerheads with each other.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Okay. Aluminum, aluminum. What's the difference?
[01:56:57] Unknown:
It's the, British pronunciation you got there going on. Yeah.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
[01:57:06] Unknown:
How did he do you wrong? How did he do you wrong? Now you had a great phone call. You had a wonderful phone connection a minute ago, and now you sound like you're in China. What changed?
[01:57:21] Unknown:
Costa Rica has different wavelengths, I guess. I don't know.
[01:57:27] Unknown:
Wait. Are you on wireless? You're on wireless? No. Joan, let's drop it. Alright? Thank you.
[01:57:34] Unknown:
Okay. So,
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can you hear me better now, Roger? No. Not really, but I can hear you. Go ahead. Okay.
[01:57:45] Unknown:
Okay. Well, my Myr told me to drop it. So but I'll drop it. What I had asked you was, what how did that person do you wrong?
[01:57:53] Unknown:
And but you don't wanna answer. No. Not we're I'm not going in the story. We're about the end of the show. That's water under the bridge. I've never been treated by anybody in my adult life like that guy treated me. After I'd been over backwards and given him a year and a half of of airtime, offered to teach him, asked him if he'd like to be on my network, and then he just totally shoved it up my ass, bro. That's what he did. Never been treated by anybody in my adult life like that guy treated me. That's why I have so much animus about him. Okay? And he did the same thing to Paul English.
Yes, Julie. Please don't be angry. We love you here. For god's sake, she split up Giuseppe and Scorpio. Go ahead, Jean. We're here together now. It's important that we're here together now. We all love you, and you don't need to get upset because we treasure you. So please don't get upset. I wanna I wanna take your I'm just trying. I'm gonna tell you something else about this bastard. He lied about my work and me on Jim Ram's radio show when one of the students called in and asked him something. A direct outright lie.
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Okay? So Roger. Take all that for whatever reason. Burr.
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Go ahead, Julie. God
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God wins. God wins. And there's a word called karma that I believe in firmly. And so what comes around goes around. I would not wanna be him. And, I would only wanna be you. So now I wanna take your, brain off of that, and I wanna switch subjects here. And I wanna read something from Tom Shaw's book, which is very interesting. I posted it into the chat room, and it's how to get rid of a mortgage without going to court. And here's the introduction. If the government issued cash, should I wait for that to go?
[01:59:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Should I wait for the Well, yeah. Well, let's just go every
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radio concern. We don't have Paul here, but everybody else on all these channels, we love you. Thank you for coming and listening to Roger Sales.
[02:00:02] Unknown:
Well, all I ever do is try and help you guys. I tell you the truth. I don't screw with other people. I I I just try and lay the truth out, And this guy's not like that. I don't know what his problem is, Murr, but he's got a real big problem underneath.
[02:00:18] Unknown:
I promise you. You know what, Roger? Okay. Yep. You know what, Roger? I don't even know who you're talking about, and I don't wanna know who who the person Well, I I've got no clue about that. His name is deliberately
[02:00:29] Unknown:
his name is deliberately not been mentioned. K?
[02:00:33] Unknown:
Good. Good. So I don't need to know about it. And I Anyway.
[02:00:37] Unknown:
Yep. That's a lot water along into the bridge. Thank goodness. If you wanna go follow him, go ahead. K? But, I I I don't I'm not sure the guy in the still NSA, actually, Murr, tell you the truth. But be it as it may, he ain't in my life anymore, which is fine with me. So if you're a regular listener, sorry to get off on all that. Some of you people just insist on opening this crap. Okay? We'll see you tomorrow. Thank you, Mark, for joining us. And, today, sorry, we didn't get more of your input. And, we'll be back tomorrow on Thursday and see what happens between now and then.
I'd have new students. Yep. Who knows? Julie's gonna read us something out of Tom Schaff's handbook, and if you miss it, well, too bad. And we'll see you soon.
[02:01:28] Unknown:
A message out of his book, cancel cancel bank loans without going to court. If the government issued cash, United States note interest free like president Andrew Jackson, president Abraham Lincoln, and president John F. Kennedy, the national debt could be zero, your personal income tax could be zero, and the average American American could have very little, if any, debt. History shows President Kennedy was assassinated within a few months of issuing United States notes. Upon his death, president Jack Johnson immediately replaced The United States notes with Federal Reserve notes. If president Kennedy had lived and continued printing United States notes interest free, Tens of trillions of dollars the banks now have would be in the hands of American citizens.
If he had lived, the national debt could be zero and your personal income tax cut to zero. This book is very compelling. Yep. You can go ahead. And everybody who wants to try to learn this, definitely, download that book, print it out, and read it, and let's all see if we can all come to some sort of, format or template where we can get, the remainder of our mortgages canceled. Hi, Yield. I don't I love you, brother. You okay. Well, you thank you, Julie.
[02:02:45] Unknown:
Well, I got two, three things I wanna say. Tom Shoff had a lot of the keys. I I don't know what has happened to him. He was gonna move to Arizona and get out of Chicago. This was years ago, decades ago. So, anyway, his stuff still floating around. It's very valuable and viable. Otherwise than that, let's see what else. What else? What else? Anybody got something else for me?
[02:03:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I got my question. Well, you you mentioned when you're talking to Joan about canon law, I mean, you Roman law. Now is that is canon law the same thing, and did it derive from the canonization?
[02:03:24] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Because it's yes. Because that's what he did. He, formed the they had that law built and then turned that eventually turned into the Catholic church. And that was the law, and they only spoke it in in in the way I understand it from what Brent's taught us specifically. They only did everything in Latin. It was a barrier to the to the normal people, and they were outside dealing with the common law and these ends of common law where they were keeping that system of law alive. But the canon law law is the law of Rome. And that, basically, that's what we've got in that middle set of books. You looked it up one day, it came back, so when did they they start the United States code? You came back and said in the nineteen twenties.
So that was right preparatory to the bankruptcy. They knew what they were doing. It was all set up.
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Yep. Yep. Alright. Thank you. Yes.
[02:04:26] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
[02:04:27] Unknown:
Hey, Bob.
[02:04:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Going back to words with this may clarify something for you, Joan, and other listeners as far as that goes. When you go back to the root word of policy, it's Polis. It's city.
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Right.
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So I don't really think in common law you could have a policy. It it would it would it would just be contrary by definition. You know? Yeah. You could have you could you see my point? The word metropolitan, the word policy, the word police,
[02:05:03] Unknown:
all of these words go back to city. Yeah. So nationals are not on so nationals are not under policy.
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That would be the theory.
[02:05:14] Unknown:
Well, I don't know if the theory is Because by its very definition
[02:05:18] Unknown:
by the very definition, policy is associated with city, I e civil law,
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not common law.
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That's what I thought.
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There you go.
[02:05:33] Unknown:
Okay. Keep it simple. Okay. Thank you, Bob. I agree with that. Roger. Try to do it. Is that Scott is that Samuel?
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Yeah, Roger. Hi. Morning. Yesterday after show, we sort of got into this. But earlier in this show, we were talking about oil. And, you know, oil and water right now are probably two of the biggest things that are holding up humanity, and this this idea of primary water, I didn't believe when I was looking at what Deborah Tavares had to say to it about it because I'm really not a big fan of hers because she's such a gloom and doom person. But I looked up the guy who was the source of the term. There's a there's a video that everybody should watch if they're interested in this kind of stuff. It his name was doctor Stephen, sir, Stefan Rice, r I e s s, I think. No. R e I s s, I think, and he has a a YouTube video on primary water. This was the guy who coined the term.
He was born in, like, 1898 in Bavaria. He came here after World War two, and he had he was a geologist, and he really understood a different way of things sort of like a Tesla, only in geology. And, he, he said as a as a young boy, he saw some of these early wells that were dug in around the castles in Germany were, you know, guys like Charlemagne, dug 1,000 foot wells, and they're still working today.
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Yikes. That's a long way.
[02:07:22] Unknown:
He gets into this whole point. Things like, the Comstock load was stopped because they hit steam areas down in there scalding water and a lot of water, and this happens to mines all the time. They get flooded out. Yes. And when he was a jolly geologist, he was doing a lot of this work for mines, and he realized if you drill in the wrong place, you're gonna hit water. He started to understand how these natural forming dikes in the earth by, up pushing of the crust, etcetera, cracks and fissures were where you would drill to get primary water. And when when they went into the Comstock load, Sutro dug a four mile tunnel under Mount Davidson to get underneath the shafts and drain that thing.
And they got 4,000,000 gallons a day. I don't think that was from rainwater.
[02:08:22] Unknown:
I think what the most of the production the most of the production of the of the Comstock load was like sludge, wasn't it? They had to go in and figure out how to pull the silver out of the sludge, I believe. You know, we'll know about it. Yeah. In a lot of cases, they Brent will know about it. Go ahead.
[02:08:40] Unknown:
And and Reese discusses in this video, it's like an hour and eleven minutes long, How when the Earth fractures, it it gets if there's the water sources there, it pushes up into the crevices and dissolves the minerals and deposits them in these crevices, in these dike divides. And he says when you drill into that, you know and you know where the fracture is. So he can calculate exactly where to drill. I mean, this goes on and on, but he was actually in Southern California at the time, and some rich Jews in 1958 sent him to Israel to dig in the desert to get water there, and it Ben Gurion told his people, listen to whatever this guy is telling you whether you believe it or not. Right? Because they had tried to dig wells in the desert, and they didn't find crap. Right?
He dug a well that that was a thousand gallons a minute. It was a good supply for, like, a 100,000 people where they had been drilling in that part of the desert and didn't get anything. And then he went and did it in Saudi Arabia. And he in his life, he he did like 800 wells. So I'm pretty convinced that primary water is real. And back to oil, oil is probably also the same thing, except we don't have a guy sharp enough or if the people do know don't wanna hit it. Gotcha. And we drill in the sedimentary basins for oil, and that is probably like he tells how to dig for water.
You want to dig for oil in a different way once you've depleted that surface area that is probably, you know, biomass, created oil. But that's not to say that the Earth isn't shoving it up into that biomass area as well. So
[02:10:48] Unknown:
anyway Julie, did you take this one film to watch?
[02:10:51] Unknown:
Okay. What's the Yeah. Because I know Deborah Tavares. I talk to Deborah Tavares on the phone every day, and she has primary water on her land. So she actually, you know, did that properly with a with a rig. And it just just she has a website called primarywater.org. I yield
[02:11:10] Unknown:
Yep. There you go. Actually, the guy who picked up the the, reins from, Rice or Reese was a gentleman, and and his name is at the end of that video if you watch it, was Palpauer, and he is drilling wells supposedly today. I haven't really looked into him much yet. But the reason we got in this discussion is you could probably buy land where there's no water. But if you knew how to do this drilling, you could probably turn that into an oasis, like, in places like Nevada.
[02:11:47] Unknown:
Make the desert bloom. Yeah. Okay. Cool, Samuel. Who else has got something this morning here in the after show?
[02:11:59] Unknown:
One last Go ahead.
[02:12:01] Unknown:
Go ahead, Ketch. Ketch.
[02:12:03] Unknown:
I just wanted to say I came to the conclusion the other day that the administrative state's only purpose was to extract wealth.
[02:12:11] Unknown:
Well, no. It's to keep you, under control too. I mean, the administrative state is the matrix. What what what did Morpheus say? You can't see it. You can't touch it, but you can feel it. Well, damn. That's true. But what do you feel? You feel this encroaching of public policy, law made by unelected bureaucrats that's applying to you, being applied to you, and that's what you feel. Oh, I can't do this. I can't do that. I might do this. They might come get me here. That's the matrix.
[02:12:52] Unknown:
And the root is the monetary system, I would say, of control. I mean, so we gotta we gotta change that, and things can change.
[02:13:01] Unknown:
Well yeah. And and these guys are losing right now. Don't know what they're gonna do. I'd say also be very aware of any potential false flags. I mean, we're in you talk about false flag territory. Woo hoo. We're there. K? So,
[02:13:19] Unknown:
I'd like to ask Julie a question. Does does she know who who dug Deborah as well?
[02:13:27] Unknown:
I do not. I used to know that, and I don't know anymore. And I do not believe that that person, is still living, because he was older than Deborah. And Deborah is, I think, now in her I had to guess her seventies. So, but now This
[02:13:47] Unknown:
this this Paul Prower supposedly has a primary water institute?
[02:13:53] Unknown:
I think that might have been who dug hers. I can't remember. That name rings a bell.
[02:13:58] Unknown:
Yeah. He's have you ever watched Rice's film, Tuli? I have. I have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of information there. This guy knew more about this than anybody living. He I mean, he makes a lot of points on the he he said that if the Earth wasn't producing water, the planet would run out.
[02:14:22] Unknown:
Yeah. We have if there is no Yeah. We there is no such thing as a renewable. Deborah tells everybody that all the time. And also, they don't want us to have primary water because then they couldn't poison us the way they do.
[02:14:37] Unknown:
Through that. What what he's the other thing he says in that thing is this is in 1985. He said we were already pumping it out, 10 times faster than it was replacing the groundwater and all these groundwater wells. And he says and as at that cycles, the quality of that water keeps getting dirtier and dirtier and dirtier. Right? He says, like, he saved one of the biggest spring companies in, in Southern California by drilling them, you know, two new wells which are still running at high volumes for forty years. And it's it this water that comes from primary water doesn't have all this surface sediment and contamination in it because it's never been in the oxygen air zone of the of the atmosphere, and it hasn't been oxidized and all kinds of things. So, it it's just a word Yes, everyone. Singing. It it just shows the control of the government. Because this thing about Ben Gurion is really important because he dug that well, and he got a a thousand gallons a minute. And nobody wants to say that's true because what the Israelis did when they were negotiating for water from the Jordan River, they had to say that that well went salty so they could get more out of the Jordan River from Jordan because Jordan was damming it off and stopping it from flowing into Israel.
Good plan. Gets into that in this conversation as well. The the politics of water are probably beyond that of oil. And True. It's just a shame that we don't experiment. I'm gonna definitely look into this poll. Paul,
[02:16:31] Unknown:
Paul, Mark, and see if he's, It's the next big crisis, Samuel. I mean, I heard the other day, they said no more artificial intelligence buildups in the East Coast because it's already taxing the water supply. And that whole thing's gonna do nothing but stress the hell out of that. Okay? So, yeah. Yeah. And What now there was a technology a while back. This guy made a machine that could pull water out of the air like a dehumidifier.
[02:17:00] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. And,
[02:17:02] Unknown:
and the and and the climate that it does the best in is desert.
[02:17:09] Unknown:
I remember that. Yeah. We were I was discussing I was discussing that with, Jimmy the other day too because he's looking at Nevada territory, and I I told him about Jim McKinney. And those those machines you're talking about pull a lot of power. But Jim McKinney, it links them up to one of his, wind turbines or generators and powers them. So at the same time you're getting power, you also and you could be off grid. You're also getting water.
[02:17:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Probably power it with some some solar panels too. Anyway, man, I mean, you know, I'm So if somebody wanted to really entrepreneur
[02:17:52] Unknown:
a a a community that wanted to be off grid grid and self sufficient and get the land for next to nothing, you could start to make the parameters based on where the wind is, and
[02:18:06] Unknown:
that would start to solve a lot of problems. I guess so. I'm not Then you will? In a great place out in the middle of the freeway desert. Go ahead, Julie.
[02:18:15] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just gonna say Deborah lives totally off grid, totally owes no money for anything. She and even her, stuff that she did for solar, she never used the lithium ion batteries that, you know, the county requires you that can explode. She used something totally different, some sort of gel.
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Yeah. There's gel batteries, but there's the new technology that I like is the silicon salt
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technology, and there's a pump in it. It might have been silicon that she used it. You might be correct on that. I can't remember.
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I thought you remembered everything.
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Well, she does. She does that just doesn't remember that.
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Good. Good, Joan. It's not girl stuff. Ask her. I'll tell you. These girls, they're something.
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Okay. When does a girl wanna know about batteries?
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Batteries. I'm gonna go figure out what's going on in the world. We haven't seen, Joseph, our guy from week before last or whenever it was. He hadn't reappeared, or at least if he is riding the Erie and just sitting there listening, he's not saying anything. We want Todd to get out of the hospital and well again. We miss him. And, everything else is going along pretty good, I guess, except the state of the world, and it's just about to blow up. This Nepal thing, I was totally unaware of it until this morning. But the the video I saw and they got no guns.
Imagine if they had guns. So, anyway alright. Well, I'm a ride off into the, high noon sun then and go see if I can find me some vittles somewhere and, sit back on a lovely Ecuadorian afternoon here in a dry season type day and see what I'm motivated to do. I will look forward to Thank you, Roger. Well, you're very welcome, and I will look forward to spending another couple of hours with you rascals tomorrow. Okay? Because you're my family. Roger. Hell, you're the only people I know I'm saying. Want, I'll send you the video. Samuel, I got more stuff I can look at, man, really.
Oh, I figured you were.
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It's in it's it's in both of the chats, and I could drop it in your email if you wanna hold it there. I got more than I can look at more, honestly.
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So, anyway, I'll, see 09:11 tomorrow. Oh my goodness gracious. Thank you for giving that heads up. I'll think about that between now and then, and I suggest you do the same. Another great opportunity to expose things. Yes. Yes, Samuel. No. This is Michael. Hey, Michael. You sound a little like Samuel. Hi there. We all are both from that part of the country. Well, no. I'm Minnesota, not California. Well, he's from up there too originally. Oh, really? Interesting. Where where did you grow up? Wisconsin?
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I was born in Sheboygan.
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Oh, there you go. Here you go.
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Have you heard the name? This is a guy I'm listening to. His he calls himself the informer.
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His name is Harry Back in the night. Harry re Reems? Harry. I think yeah. I I'm actually Yes. He was around thirty years ago. Would you call him long gone. Would you call him patriot yeah. Would you call him patriot mythology? No. And you know why? Well, I don't know if your book you're reading, but one of the books he wrote was which one are you. Right? Yeah. He understood that. And he's a little short guy. I remember met him one time, maybe, more than once. But yeah. No. He's he's good. He may not I'm listening. He We're doing, but he had a good grasp, if I remember right, on found foundations. And I just remember that title of his book. He's the one that did give a differentiation, like, which person are you?
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Yeah. Well, I I'm I'm listening to him or I'm you know, I it's darn near three hour interview with him here, and I'm an hour into it. And it sounds like he had the IRS on their knees.
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You Well, there were there were people that had, you know, had had ways to, attack them. Their their thing isn't totally invulnerable, is vulnerable in some other ways, I guess. The will willfulness defense. You know about that?
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No. But I've heard it. Yeah. Well, no. I'm not an expert, but I've heard you.
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Well, it was a case of, Harry Cheek, Cheek versus US. He was an airline pilot, and he won that case at the Supreme Court on willfulness. In other words, I had studied his willful failure to file. I I it I wasn't willful. I I've gone in and studied. I saw this, this, and this, and so I didn't think I had to file. It wasn't willful that I didn't file. It was you know? And that's he won that argument, and then they quickly shut that down. So there's other ways that people have found. I'm not sure. I don't remember all that Rheem stuff, and this was back when nobody was talking about jurisdiction. They were all talking about taxes.
Tax was the big issue back in that day. So, yeah, go ahead and listen to it. He's a good guy.
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So your method pulling yourself out of the fourteenth amendment is a totally
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As far as I know, I don't know that he did that. I don't think he had a grasp on it. He didn't have that. Well, I don't know. I don't remember. You can find out listening to it, but I don't think he did.
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Yeah. And this method that you're teaching us is you're calling it damn near bulletproof.
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Well, it it appears to be that it didn't come and ding dinged anybody. Alright.
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Okay. Alright. No. I'm just trying to listen to other stuff and, you know, I don't hear I don't nobody talks of IR I come on the show. I'll listen to you, Roger. Right? No one talk we don't talk about IRS. Right? I'm I'm I'm looking for I'm looking for IRS material. Right?
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Well, you're not gonna find a lady or source. Lady
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comes out, Roger. Lady comes on the show, and you defer her to Mark, and we don't get to hear anything out of her story. She goes away.
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On the specific IRS stuff, I you want me to lie to you? I'm not gonna lie to you. If I don't know it or understand it, I'm gonna defer to Mark. Mark's on top of it more, understands it more, and that's why. I'm not trying to cheat you out anything. I hate taxes. That's the reason we're over here on jurisdiction. That's the reason we never mentioned it for years until that situation came up with John. K? And that got the attention on it from from a bunch of us. It doesn't appear to be viable. Nobody wants to spend their time doing it with such a low rate and percentage of return, as we've gotten. So we've gone off on another directions.
Right? I mean, I'll be the first one to tell you this is not an IRS program. The IRS thing is by default. That's why in the affidavit, it's the second paragraph, not the first.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Alright. Thanks, Roger. They're a nonentity as far as I'm concerned, Michael, quite frankly. So anybody I'm sorry. You still can't get that, that splinter out of your finger. I hope you can. Okay? So, whoever I don't know of anybody out there that's got the same approach because nobody knows what John and Glenn did. You know, here's Anne Vandersteel, Friday afternoon with, oh, the guys filling in for o o o and, Doo, Rob Doo. And she's sitting there going, there is no law. There is no law. And she's talking about a case that's different, in a sense, it's already happened under the bridge, and they're they're coming back and trying to see shit.
But there is a law. I can show it to you. I can show you how it works, but Anne's never followed up with me, so she doesn't know. And she does mention a guy named Mike Ellis, who I know because back when I was doing shows with Al Attis years ago, he knew Michael Ellis. And Michael Ellis is an expert on IRS internal codes, what they tell him to do in the manuals. And that may be somebody you wanna go try and maybe hook up with because he's got all of the technical stuff. Well, I add John and Glenn as my teachers, and they know the whole scheme from December and why it works and the things Michael Ellis knew to do, but he didn't know why.
And so I put those two together. Anne Vandersteel hadn't mentioned that at all. I've heard her mention mister Ellis a couple of times, but they went out. Have you heard this story, Michael? They went out. They found a doctor in San Diego who had failure to file for two years. They were coming after him. They had a a law firm that would work with them. John Glenn wrote all of the process. Everything that went into that courtroom, Glenn generated, and the lawyers introduced. And he got found guilty. And then they appealed it to the ninth circuit, and they found him guilty. And that's when Glenn walked away from all this. When I got the goods, I've got them dead to rights. And he said, Roger, not only can the jury not understand it, the judge can't understand it either.
That's straight out of Glen Amorch's mouths. So if you wanna look for experts, Michael, Michael Ellis can tell you from the inside what they do. I can show you and overlay the veneer of the system and show you why they use those things. And I don't know of any other place you can go to get that.
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Roger?
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I mean, look. Here we got what's one of our big guru gurus here. Hold on just a second. What's one of our big gurus? Judge Anna. Shit. She's a judge in her own jurisdiction. Well, IRS just got her for 1,200,000.0, Michael. Just like you're gonna go ask Anabond Rights about it?
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No. She that's pretty spooky.
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Well, she didn't appear. She tried to write why I refuse to contract and all that bull Patriot bullshit and send it back to them, and she didn't appear. And they got a default judgment, and they're they're they're liquidating her property in Wisconsin right up by where you are, I think.
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Now
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so I don't know who to tell you to go to when you say you wanna keep investigating. The if with what you understand from the jurisdictional side, if you can't see the application in 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, I I don't know how to further explain it to you, Michael. I don't know how to simplify it. I understand it. Does the will the IRS understand it? Well, if they come after anybody, does anybody come on here and say they're getting dinged? If they're getting dinged, believe me, this first place they're gonna come. You ever hear that? Even once, ever.
My god. No. Yeah. No. They're they're, you know, they're not. They're Okay. Well, isn't that is that evidently, that's not proof enough for you. So I don't know where to send you.
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Roger? Yes. Hi.
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It's it's Rich and my my last name, and my, my father was a bailiff in San Diego back in the late seventies. But what what time did this k when did this, case take place in San Diego? Well oh, I don't know. Last
[02:31:49] Unknown:
I was doing shows with Al Attis. That was maybe ten ten plus years ago a little bit. I don't even know the doctor's name. Okay? It was in federal court, but it and that and let me tell you what else was the repercussions of that, Michael. The attorney general put out a national memorandum of, for for all federal district courts, a moratorium. That's the word I was looking for. A moratorium to all federal district courts. No one can bring a case with push code o nine in it. K? Well, that's the little trick that's got Ann Vandersteel all panties in a wad. Okay? Because that's where they stop the computer and put in the substitute for return.
That you haven't filed, well, they're gonna make up an imaginary figure, and they're gonna enter that for you. And that is a national moratorium. No federal court could take up a case with push code o nine in it is my understanding, Michael. That was the result of that case. Okay? Roger, they don't put your signature on that. Michael, I I wanna scratch your itch, man, and I don't know how to do it. K? What sketch?
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They they don't put your signature on that, a replacement form, do they? Have to. No.
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No. They're not forging it. They've got statutory and regulatory authority to go in and do that. Because Okay. At the first, you didn't file, and you probably because you got one of those letters, we haven't received your tax return for the years what or what if you've disregarded if you filed or else we might have you bring in your books and records. John always believed that that was this magical merchant law document called the confirmatory writing. Affirmatory. Pardon me? Thank you. Where if you don't accept the cons or specifically reject it, then you accept it. Most of our guys throw it in the trash can. So now they've got you in a contractual obligation, and you didn't file even though it's fraud. You don't bring it up because you don't understand it. And so that gives them the right to do push code o nine, one of these technical moves internally.
What that does is it shuts the computer down. The computer in where is it? Somewhere in West Virginia, Martinsburg, West Virginia. The computer is programmed correctly. It knows it's got to have a ten forty form, a statute staple filed. When it doesn't see one, that's when they execute push code o nine. They put that in. Now there's a 10 forty's been filed, and they go on to assessment and collections. That's the scam. Okay?
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Right.
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Roger. Can't do that they can't do that without a shitload of process. Letters, giving you a chance to cure it, giving you a chance to cure it. They just don't come and grab stuff. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. So, you know, I listen all the time. And there's probably been about three or four students over the last couple of months that came on and said they had IRS issues, and they just start to explain their story and then you you do, have the tendency to defer them to Mark. And so I'm wondering maybe this can help, this can help Michael. Maybe you could have Mark come on the show this Saturday since he comes on Wednesdays and Saturdays, and he can give all of us an update on how he helped them to respond to these situations that they're in because that way, all of us can learn together.
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A lot a lot of it are just screwy little errors, like them reporting a wrong damn amount to the state, then the state coming back. And it was a a person that initiated that error. There's a lot of that kind of stuff. There's no concerted activity of the IRS coming at us. They're they're trying to probe and send these letters and try to do something. They don't know what to do, Larry. This is not you know, if you guys have got specific tax questions, I don't mind that. We're not going into tax law here. K? I'm just not doing it. I don't like it. I hate it. I've given you that out. If you don't wanna accept it, well, you need to I I can't give you anymore. K? Because I divorced myself from it years ago. Mark understands it a little bit better. Ask a specific question. We don't need to go into a whole damn show dedicated to that crap.
Well, isn't Saturdays dedicated to tax questions with Mark? No. No. Well, no. If you wanna have a tax question, we'll entertain it. I'm gonna not dedicate the whole damn show to it. There's not that many people with questions about it.
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Yeah. I agree, Roger. I have a quick I have something, Roger.
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Yes. Marco.
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Or Michael. The CFR code and, that removes you from that, their jurisdiction. There has been people that have had issues, but because they're bluffing them and they're testing people on, you know, if they know the information and understand it and and have internalized it. So they have no jurisdiction unless they're the you owe the $8.71 and the $8.77.
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That's it. They're they're, like, coming in You have to know how to defend yourself. We're getting all these affidavits coming in. There's a whole bunch of them. We wanna know if these people are somebody's doing this for them or if they really know what they're talking about. That's what that call to Jerry was about about a year and a half ago. They're testing for their own information. They wanna know how much you know too. Okay? But that's what they're doing. That's what all these bluff letters are designed to do. That's what they do, and people How well do you understand this? You they're gonna test you. Right. That's what I said. The only way you can defend your position is to know the information.
If Roger and the Brain Trust wasn't here to help you, you'd have to skull it out on your own. That's why I insist
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if I can That's why you have to do research.
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Upon you to learn the information and tell you. If you really wanna be free, this is your effort. If you really wanna be free, yes, the the the the level of freedom you'll achieve is directly correlated to how well you internalize this information and make it part of you.
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Sorry. Freedom ain't doing research and learning the information yourself, seeing it and reading it is what empowers you. So that's the only way to defend yourself.
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Can I please quote Thomas Jefferson? Those who expect to be ignorant and free, exact expect what never was and never will be. Thomas Jefferson, dead on the mark. Dead on the mark. So that's your mandate. You wanna be free Just wanted to share that one. Follow those guidelines. Thank you, Marco. How about you doing? Yeah. I hope to. So, anyway, I'll see y'all back tomorrow on Thursday, and, I hope all of you have a great day. Okay? And, we'll see you tomorrow. Ciao.
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911.
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Bye, Roger. Have a great day.
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And, Mer, check the private chat. I got a question for you. What's your question? Here's another, quote from Jefferson. The medium of exchange shall be returned to the nation to whom it belongs.
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As it should.
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Yeah. It looks interesting in their sketch, Steven. Miles w Mathis. Yep. Looking to him, people.
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Well, do you think it's real, or do you think it's fake is my question?
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In this case, I think that's real, and he's done it before and been released. And if you look at the footage that was undoctored, we're talking about the Ukrainian little young woman that was stabbed to death in the in the subway. There were four black men and one black woman. Some woman left, got her stuff and got out. While this was all going on, the undoctored one, you know, you see the the one on x where it shows he's just frozen in motion above her. But if you see the whole thing, he stabbed her and they're running back and forth and doing all kinda of stuff. You know, her hat's been knocked off. She's got her legs drawn up. She's terrified. She eventually falls on the floor and there's blood on the seat. No one came to her aid because of race.
That's what that was in this case. It'll be used to an advantage, no doubt, but I don't think this one was staged. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. My opinion. Thank you. Does Miles think it was? I haven't read it.
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Well, yeah. He kinda does. He he tries to poke holes in it. I yield.
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He looks face to me too.
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Yep. This is Mary. I didn't I didn't see it.
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When the blood drops from the from the bottom of the, see where she was, it dropped too fast like, like, they throw, a cup of blood dropping the step, and it was too much blood in in the walls. It's you know, it doesn't look like when the blood is dripping naturally. And she don't have nothing in the neck. It was staged.
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Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, because when you Yeah. If your heart is still beating and your heart is still pumping, and you cut the carotid artery, it's gonna squirt out like like a faucet. Like, you turn the faucet on. It's gonna squirt out, and it's gonna get everywhere
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on people. And she wasn't holding the the neck, just the mouth. She was putting her her hands in her mouth, no on the area by the neck. No blood was there or nothing. I don't know. You know, I wasn't in there, but in the video, it looked all fake.
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I didn't watch the video, and I'm probably not going to, because I've come to realize that this whole thing is a cyber war. So what we see just like to tell a vision. You know, the what makes the Internet any different? Right? Or video games because I've seen my grandkids play video games where they look so realistic, but it's really not. It's just a stupid game, which I don't even know and understand why my daughter would let them play these games. That's beyond me. But that being said, it that's what this whole thing feels like when they do the stuff that they do to still contain the control, still contain the money system, monetary system, still contain all these systems that they've got going on, including the medical, get everybody scared of all these viruses. They're gonna come and get us. It it it just I I can't. And it's ridiculous.
I mean, I should probably go try to look up this video, but I don't even think I'm going to. I really don't because I know it's gonna be a bunch of crap. Just like Hi, Sketch. Hook shooting.
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Just like Did you post it? A sense
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oh, I'm sorry, Marie.
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Sketch, did you post it in the chat? I'd like to see it, please.
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It's not a video. It's just a couple articles. Yeah. I can do that, John. I didn't wanna bother other people with it, but I will, John. I'll I'll be in the well, I'll put in the the regular chat. Yep.
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Thanks.
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But something else, everything is fake. Everything that we see, politicians, all the laws, all the money, everything is fake. You just make believe.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
So Casey's, mission accomplished. Right? When he was, he'd been Reagan's campaign manager and on the cabinet meeting where they were stating their, mission statements, he said, they know their mission will be complete when everything the American people believe is false. And what they're going for here is that they won't believe anything. Not just that it's false, but they don't believe anything. That's why it's important to know about Christ. Alright? But I can see here where he's talking about AI and how this was handled and handled it. And this guy's name isn't isn't anywhere anywhere. Pretty interesting.
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Murr, I gotta stop you right there. I gotta stop you. How are you connected? By a dial up phone or what?
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Who? Who? You?
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How are you connected? Me?
[02:46:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm on like you saw on the laptop, but it's through the app through the app.
[02:46:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. You are so super loud. You are three times as loud as everybody else. Can you go into your settings and kinda pull your mic down a little bit, please?
[02:46:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I did turn it down. I don't know what's going on. I'll just touch You're a loud white woman.
[02:46:32] Unknown:
Well, now, and Brent's super loud too. I don't know what's going on with that. That's
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racist.
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Brent, you're super loud. I'm sorry. You're just loud as than anything.
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There's there's other other, mics open apparently because I'm picking up an echo.
[02:46:59] Unknown:
No. You're picking up the echo from my speakers because the people out in the front yard of my house can hear you. You're so loud. Of course, my microphone can hear you.
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See, Paul, you're coming in louder to me than anybody else.
[02:47:15] Unknown:
That's because that's because I have my own private channel.
[02:47:20] Unknown:
I hear everybody has an echo. I keep myself on mute unless I wanna say something, but you guys are all really echoing. Am I?
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How do you And everybody's really laughing.
[02:47:33] Unknown:
My wife complained today. She was outside the garage, and she could hear it. She's going to turn that down.
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Hey, Paul?
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Yep.
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So who is this person that got Roger all upset that he didn't wanna say his name?
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I don't Michael Gatti. Does it matter? Does it matter?
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Does it matter?
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Was it Gatti or was it Richardson? I don't know what it's pertaining to.
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It's Mike, but it doesn't matter. They don't listen to him anyway.
[02:48:34] Unknown:
I'm still trying to get the call in don't for the Thursday show. If anybody can have it, put it in the chat, please. Thank you.
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If you don't wanna listen, why would you come on the show? I don't understand that. Like, because you can take what resonates and take what doesn't and go where you wanna go. You know what I'm saying? Like, why do so many people take everything so literal in a sense?
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Some people are anal.
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Yeah.
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Generally, when you have a radio show and you have someone come on as a guest, you're not trying to tell them your information a lot of times. You know? You have them on as a guest because you're promoting their information. Like, when Roger goes on other people's shows, the Roger's not there to listen to them and their spiel. He's there to spread his spiel. Right?
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Right. Completely agree.
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Yeah. Right. That's true. I never thought of it that way.
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Listen to what listen to what Roger says about the the Sarah Westall thing. Am I too loud still?
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You're good. Not to me. You you always loud.
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I backed off of me. You sound good. I turned it down and backed off.
[02:50:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've been start of it because I'm here.
[02:50:16] Unknown:
Okay. Roger Roger I've told him this, but like on Sarah Westall, he, you know, he he instructs. He doesn't do interviews per se. He instructs. But he let Sarah Westall get away with getting a conversation with him, and that really drew people in. So that's how that works. But, yeah, the whole the whole deal with Mike Gaddy, we've been through it before. He came on for his regular time slot. And, you know, people that do stuff like this, they they take probably two hours for every hour you're preparing. You know? And after the half hour passed, he gave up because there were other things going on. So, you know, just the differences in people. It's not that they don't both have good knowledge that we can share. Like I said, it's like professors.
Alright? You go to a college or a university, you're gonna have a lot of differences of opinion just like we do here, just like RBN. You know? So you're gonna have strong personalities coming through, and thank god for it. But there was interference otherwise that's not being acknowledged there, and I won't be buying any books from that publisher. He's a perfectionist publicist, and his books are great, but, he's not honest. So there you go.
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Mara, I think the problem with your audio is it's crackly.
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Historically.
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Am I crack am I crackly for anyone else?
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You're better now than you were when you were talking to Ryan because that was really bad.
[02:52:01] Unknown:
Well, I think the crackly on your part.
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Nope.
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I know. Another hint of another hint of the publisher is he's an Iranian Jew.
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Yep. Yep. And and he defends the Israelis attacking the liberty. That was a real crux of a point for me. Plus, he took, six digits and, money from them, And he was gonna charge me for slander talking about that, but there was no basis, so he didn't. Meanwhile, on their program, they decided to, say that perhaps I had something to do with John Satmiller's death, and, they added that out. That was wise. Not that I'd go suing anybody. I don't care. Because I know I didn't have anything to do with this step.
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Okay. Are we done talking now? Because I can take the stream down. I can do that.
[02:53:35] Unknown:
I have I have one question for Julie. Julie. Julie.
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Can you hear me?
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Yeah. Hi. Do, do you have pen do you have pen and paper? I don't know. I'm driving, but I can try to answer anything you That's okay. You probably can remember this. You speak if you speak to Deborah Tavares a lot or kinda often. And, if you could remember, could you maybe ask her a question about, primary water? Could could you maybe ask her if, someone lives at the beach, and they live two blocks from the ocean, from the beach? If if somebody lives two blocks from the beach, it can they is that far enough away from the beach to dig a primary water well?
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No. You can't you have to find one. You've got to find a spring that has primary water, and it has to be on your property. So you would have to, get somebody who would have knowledge about that and to find out if you even have that on your property.
[02:54:54] Unknown:
Right. But so if there is a spring on my property, is that too close to the beach to drill? I don't know. You'd have to check out you'd you'd have to check out your land ordinances where you're at,
[02:55:14] Unknown:
Joan.
[02:55:15] Unknown:
Yeah. But besides, besides ordinances, does Deborah Tavares know if that's too close to the beach would somehow seawater get in?
[02:55:27] Unknown:
She would not have any of that knowledge, Joan. She would she's not on a beach. She would not have that knowledge. You again, you would have to find out the proximity, within which you could drill.
[02:55:41] Unknown:
Okay. I thought she knew everything I thought she knew everything about okay. Hi. Yes.
[02:55:48] Unknown:
Yeah. You wanna watch that film Primary Water on YouTube by mister Reese. He's the guy he's the guy who started this. He explains where you find it. Yeah. One of the best geologists in the world that died before he was even alive was an expert in drilling in or the geology of the North Pole. He is a Swedish guy, and he was the first guy to do primary water in the eighteen hundreds. He drilled wells off the coast where of Sweden in the ocean, obviously, where where the light towers were, and he got fresh water. And they also were mining underneath, Sweden, these huge mines and going in under the ocean, and they got their own water supplies down there in these mines in the ocean area.
So Right. But but it's the geology and knowing how to look for it, an expert that can do that.
[02:56:55] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:56:56] Unknown:
That would be the key. And if you listen to his explanation of what a dike is you know, a dike in in our modern power lens is a you know, it's like a dam. Right? Yeah. It separates the water, and he's talks about those in geology and how they fill with sediment and have mineral in them because of that because the water was once there a long time ago until it fused off.
[02:57:23] Unknown:
So the way he would locate where to drill was based on where the mineral sediments were. That's why I'm happy. I just need to know if somebody else was still barking. Okay. How about how about I didn't know if somebody else Can you send me that? Or how she can I look at that video you talked about? Posted it, didn't she? I think she posted it during the show. Oh, got it. Yeah. Symbols chat. Thank you.
[02:57:49] Unknown:
Welcome. Everybody should look at that and just shows you, I mean, if you try to find out about this excursion this guy took in '58 to go to Israel and dig a well for them and how they denied that it was producing anymore, they said it went salty from the sea, which is just bullshit so that they could get more water from Jordan out of the Jordan River through The Hague. So they denied that his well even exists almost today. Yep. When they brought it in, it was newspaper headlines that they brought in water for a 100,000 people.
[02:58:29] Unknown:
Is that in this video? Yes. It is. Is this the video that has to do with Paul Prowett?
[02:58:37] Unknown:
No. It's it's doctor Stefan Reis or Reis. I think it's e I, so it's probably Reis.
[02:58:46] Unknown:
Do you want me to send it to you, Joan?
[02:58:49] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Alrighty.
[02:58:52] Unknown:
It's I And there is there is a video about, Paul Prower, and he's at the end of that video. So he probably paid for it in '85. He supposedly took up the torch after mister Rice, or Reese passed. And he has a a site called Primary Water Institute, and there's a video on there as well. I think about him because it I it says it's a memorial. I haven't seen that yet, but I intend to do that sometime here soon.
[02:59:25] Unknown:
So he's I don't
[02:59:28] Unknown:
but if he has an institute, I'm sure he wasn't gonna leave it not to be passed on to some younger folks. So, I'm sure we got some people who are still know what to look for in the in the geology to bring these wells in because Reese says in in in his piece, you know, you don't have to be off far, and you're not gonna get anything.
[02:59:54] Unknown:
In fact,
[02:59:55] Unknown:
a friend of mine had a has a property where one guy, the the drill rig guy just drilled a hole where he thought it was easy to drill, and he got nothing, basically. Yeah. Like a gallon gallon a minute. And he hired an old timer who understood the geology of the county and things like that, and, he drilled again, and it was it wasn't very far away, within 200 feet, I think he said. And he has an artesian well since then. So it comes to the surface. He doesn't even have to pump it.
[03:00:35] Unknown:
Yay. So that man who dug a well, at at Sweden or Switzerland near the ocean?
[03:00:50] Unknown:
No. On the on the islands that had the the light towers on them is where he drilled.
[03:00:55] Unknown:
Oh, do you know how close to the water the ocean he drilled?
[03:01:00] Unknown:
Yeah. He was out in the ocean drilling on these little islands and where low light towers were, and he got fresh water.
[03:01:10] Unknown:
Okay. That's in the video
[03:01:13] Unknown:
that I think it yeah. It's talked about in there.
[03:01:17] Unknown:
Good.
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Okay, guys. Wow. I'm gonna take the, I'm gonna take the streams down. I'm gonna try and limit rumble as close to three hours as possible. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Thank you so much for joining us today. You can catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer. There is an after show discussion that continues on in free conference call. To find that, just go to our website, thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. Click on any of the free conference call links you can dial in either by smartphone, tablet, computer, or landline telephone. We'll see you back here tomorrow for the Radio Ranch Thursday edition at 11AM.
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Introduction and Show Overview
Main Initiative: Reality Zone
Geopolitical Updates
Protests and Uprisings Worldwide
Historical Insights: Napoleon and Rothschilds
Monetary Systems and Tally Sticks
Banking and Financial Systems
Canadian Secession Movement
Oil and Energy Discussions
Native American Citizenship and Passports
Mortgage and Loan Systems
Fraud in Loans and Banking
Paying Off Mortgages Faster
Financial Documentaries and Insights
Precious Metals and Economic Predictions
Legal Systems and Regulations
Listener Questions and Discussions
Primary Water and Geology
After Show Discussions
