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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles delves into the intricacies of citizenship and the legal frameworks that define it. The discussion touches on the historical context of the Fourteenth Amendment and its implications on modern citizenship, particularly focusing on the distinction between state and federal citizenship. Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding one's legal status and the potential for reclaiming personal sovereignty through the correct legal processes. The conversation also explores the role of affidavits in changing one's legal status and the significance of the passport application process in this transformation.

Listeners are introduced to various legal concepts, including the implications of the Slaughterhouse Cases and the nuances of the term "person" in legal contexts. The episode also features discussions on the potential for discharging debts through legal means and the challenges of navigating the IRS system. Throughout the episode, Roger and his guests emphasize the importance of knowledge and understanding in achieving true freedom, encouraging listeners to delve deeper into the legal structures that govern their lives.

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Yep. As would we end, we're gonna   take another stab at it here on the Thursday   edition. August 28 is our date stamp. Roger says your host.   And the Radio Ranch is the title label, if you will, of our little get together here six days a week, two hours a day   to see if we can show you how to remove yourself   as a   slave to the,   to the master race.   And it's amazing how easy it is. So here on Thursday, we've got some other folks to join us, I think. I   I think Alan's with us today. And so, if you'd give us the,   the rundown, the, our compadres   who are helping us extend our reach. If you would please, Paul, we wanna identify them and give them proper credit. Thank you, Alan, for extending our reach.  



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I would love to.   Let's see.   We're on eurofolkradio.com.   That, of course, is our flagship station that is brought to us by Pastor Eli James. We love the guy and, he's he's amazing whenever he can join us.   Eli, if you're listening to your own network,   remember you have an open invitation to show up on the Radio Ranch. I'm just saying.   We're also on radiosoapbox.com,   brought to us by, buddy Paul across the drink. He will also be having his show today at 3PM.  

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It should be a pretty it should be a pretty interesting show. There's a lot of events going on over there. Continue, Paul. Sorry to interrupt.  

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Well, there's a lot of events, and I do believe that he's that he   maybe it was last week was that super good guest that he was gonna have on, but,   they didn't actually really   drill down into the stuff that I was expecting they were gonna be drilling down into.   So I'm thinking that's coming,   and Uh-huh. That's gonna be spectacular.  

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So What was the what was the subject matter that you were expecting?  

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It it would just,   legal definitions.  

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Okay.   Oh, that guy. I know. I know. I I know Yeah. The one you're talking about. We probably have him on this afternoon too.   And, boy, I'm glad to see Paul embarking on that path. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Other Paul.  

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Okay.  

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Yeah. That's gonna be amazing. They're I would start call referring to everybody as Paul.  

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Yeah. Well, I mean, they're coming out of the woodwork.   I mean, it's not like you can it's not like we can talk about the New Testament without me raising an eyebrow. Are they talking about you? No. They're talking about the other, Paul. Yeah. You didn't get hit by lightning. How about Paul Bearer?  

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Paul Barer? Maybe him. Maybe him.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Something like that.   Okay. We're also on Global Voice Radio Network, and the links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on   The Matrix Docs, our website,   which is where you can also find the links to free conference calls. Oh, kitty. What   is it? Nope. A calliope there. There's  

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a calliope there.  

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Nope. No putty is allowed in the studio.   Our May our website is thematrixdocs.com.   Thematrix,d0cs,.com,   where you'll find the links to free conference call, Global Voice, EuroFolk, and all that happy stuff.   And let's see. We're also on the NET family   of broadcast services.   Now that is driven by WDRN   productions in Fort Collins, Colorado,   and they bring us one zero six point nine WBOU   FM in Chicago   that will be with us for the entire two hours today. So I might as well just boost the bumper in the middle,  

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the Whistler. Can we bring do you think we can bring some sanity to Chicago?  

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Well, I don't know. I mean, Ellen and I were talking this morning, and it looks like WVOU   is just they're getting awards for local broadcasting in the Chicago area, and we are part of that because we're one of their legal programs.  

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So so that's that's good. Chicago   folks.  

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Yes. Good morning, Chicagoland.   And we're also up  

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there is your place. Go ahead. Yeah. We're also on homenetwork.tv,  

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freedomnation.tv,   golivetv,   and stream life.tube.   So and stream life,   literally has,   more than 2,000,000   listeners a   month. So and we're also pretty much an anchor program on that platform as well. So we're we're growing. We're getting there, and,   you know, it's   it could only go up from here. We're  

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setting up capacity for when the multitudes come.   Right. Exactly. Yeah. I thought so.   Took the words right out of your mouth, didn't I?  

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Right.  

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Good morning. That we have we have 3,000   seats worth of, conference systems Yeah. Multitudes. Integrate into the program. We have 1,000   with the first   conference room now.   But as we need more,   they're ready.   Just a flip of a switch.  

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Well, then we're prepared, and all we do is wait till the big guy opens the big door.   That's coming. It it's coming. You can ride it on a rock and bury it. At some point,   our information is gonna get to somebody who knows somebody or is somebody   that can pivot with this.   I thought it might have been miss Vandersteel. It doesn't appear that she's gonna fit that role at least at the at the present time.   So we just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Again, we're growing just slightly. We had a new fell on yesterday for the Hey, Roger. Majority of the problem. Good morning, Dave. How are you   yesterday for the Hey, Roger. Majority of the problem. Good morning, Dave. How are you doing? Good morning. Doing well. How about yourself? Well, it's early. I'll have to check and see. I'll get back with you. I think I'm doing alright. Well, I had a I had an, a vision when you when Paul said 3,003  

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seats. And, you know, you're gonna have to reach out to Glenn Hagee,   and, we can fill his his,   auditorium.  

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I'd be scared to reach out. I mean, I might touch him and get shocked with the lightning or something.  

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Well, he needs to know the truth too. So, anyway, I yield.  

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He may know the truth. He's just getting covered over with with the Federal Reserve notes, the Babble bucks they're sending him.   A lot of those people are,   are really in the way. A lot of them, though, or some of them, I guess, at least that I've heard are   starting to come to the realization that, Israel isn't the big daddy they thought it was and that killing children doesn't really fit with their dispensationalism   program. So we'll see. They're just getting exposed more by the day.   And,   you know, I almost I almost hope Trump doesn't   put a leash on them,   because they're just abs like, they always have done throughout history. It's the snake eating its tail. They're slit in their own throats   with their hubris and their their own word, their chutzpah.  

And, boy, it's just really something I never thought  

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I would see the day. Well, Roger, the way I see it, the biggest problem with Israel is that The US funds every single thing that they do.  

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Of course, it is. And then maybe they're not only they're they're is their biggest Achilles' heel too.   If we could get our information exposed   and people start understanding   why   they are giving them all this money and support over all these decades that they own us and start pulling ourselves out of the tax system and letting them eat their own. That's our own worst medicine having to eat their own paper.   K?   Or at least get exposed as the fraud of the paper. I they probably shuffle it off on the treasury.   But regardless, that's our enemies. And if you're new, just listen. The show's dedicated to you so that we can help show you the condition that you have,   erroneously   volunteered into and how to,   consciously volunteer yourself out of it.  

So, that's what we're here for. We had a a new fellow yesterday,   and I am so sorry.   I I've just forgotten his name. We had a conversation for an hour and a half, and I've just forgotten his name. So,   the   new guy from yesterday,   somebody helped me out in the audience. What was his name?  

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Joseph.  

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Joseph. That's it. Thank you.   Not Yeah. Yes. Oh.   So, Joseph, sorry. I forgot you, man. I just   spaced it. Usually, I don't do that, but I did. And it's such a great biblical name. And I sure remember that. Well, that's right. And you,   use the long version of it instead of I'm just Joe here in Arizona.  

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So, anyway, my my youngest boy's name is Joe. Well, shame on should have remembered.  

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Shame shame on you. Well, we'll see if we can connect. That's right. We'll see if we can connect with Joseph again today. If he's here, he's probably maybe got some more questions. I don't know. I waited   till after my lunch to call Paul on a couple of things we were doing. It's very unusual to see me working on the correct time, by the way. And, which is   kinda pleasant, Paul. Thank you.   But I as we were talking, I could hear everybody in the background. It was still going on. Y'all still had poor old Joseph up against the wall   and bombarding him with information.  

And,   you know, you can   alienate people doing that with this. I mean, I have in the past   just overwhelmed people to where they just walk away in in befuddlement. You know? So we don't want you, if you're new, to think about   that you're getting a drink of water out of a fire hydrant, but basically, kind of that's what happened with Joseph yesterday.   So we don't ever want that to alienate people. It is somewhat overwhelming,   especially when you get into   well, if you're new and you like me at the time, my only exposure to legal stuff was Perry Mason. You know?   Objection. Your honor sustained.  

Objection sustained. You know, that sort of stuff. And you get into this high end legal stuff, and,   it can make your head spin. Okay? And I understand that because it did mine.   So, anyway, a lot of talk this morning, Harrison today. This little situation in Scotland, no doubt that y'all will be discussing on Paul English's show today.   I'd be shocked if that didn't come up. Okay?   And the picture of this 12 year old girl   or her older sister, I'm still not sure which one. The store a little more of the story's coming out   with, with an iconic   pose   of a butcher knife and a hatchet.  

That is and I wanted to mention it yesterday. We got off. That's one of these   moments,   not plans, totally, you know, happening in in the course of events   that become iconic.   And, I think you'll see memes of that little girl with a with a with a butcher knife and an axe.   There's no telling where that's gonna go. It's one of those moments and one of those situations   that tends to have a life of its own.   Real people from all over the world are picking up on it and doing,   excuse me, doing memes and stuff.   What's So I you'll you'll continue to see that. You do you don't know about this, Paul? No. What was the context of the picture? You're you're way too isolated in the technical world. Okay. Here's what happened.   There's three girls.  

Two of them are sisters, and one of them is a friend.   Age the youngest one was 12.   They're walking along and, a   I don't think it was a pack. He was in another   Romanian or somebody,   starts making sexual remarks about the 12 year old.   And they they kinda pulled back. One of them, one of the one of the older ones got in a fight with this guy's sister   that's doing the filming, and she's in the hospital with a,   a, a tennis ball sized lump on the back of her head. The other girl, this guy's sister came out from behind   a building and jumped on her, grabbed her hair, jumped on her on the ground, and started beating her head. She got concussions and everything else.  

And then the brother is filming all this, is talking to the other two girls, and she's going, leave my sister alone. She's only 12 years old. And he continues to come closer with the camera, and that's when she has   a butcher knife   and a ax, a a a a hand ax, you know, not a full length. That's it. And she's bearing them at this guy, said don't come any closer.   Of course, he's reported her to the police. They'll probably come and arrest her.   But, anyway, that little incident has really gotten legs. Okay? You I bet you'll talk about this afternoon on Paul English. Okay? Wow. If not, you should.   Because it's just one of those moments where some I'm trying to think of another example.  

Okay. The   the flag raising at Iwo Jima.   Something of that significance   in this battle   of, what's going on in in in on the British Isles, with with these grooming gangs. It's been going on for a long time.   The police have, and the law enforcement has basically endorsed it. If you complain, they'll arrest you.   You can know all the scene. You've heard about that. Well, this kind of   it it may. We'll have to look at that in retrospect, but it kinda seems to me like it might be bringing that   activity to a head.   It's just one of those little iconic moments. Good morning, Roger. Yes. Good morning. Who's this?  



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Ex police officer.  

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You you don't understand what happened here. Year old daughter. Do you?   No. I mean, I didn't even hear about this. I just heard about what happened. I was watching Harrison in the morning. Stole this. I thought he was referring to an incident the day before.   Little did I know it had happened about an hour before.   And and Infowars got the, correct info that the shooting and they put it out. None of the other,   if,   establishment media covered it through their whole rest of the day yesterday, Paul.   And here's info wars on it. And what happened was within minutes,   Kyle Serafin, the, whistleblower   FBI guy, called Alex, and they had the guy's name and everything about him within minutes.  

And so what they did, them and some other, folks that, are on top of this, went into the web and started grabbing all of his stuff that's posted on the web   before they could get on there and scrub it.  

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Come on.  

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So they got all the information that he had posted on the web. Things like,   oh, how about this? One of his guns, Paul.   He had written on it.   6,000,000   wasn't enough.   Oh, jeez.   Insightful.   I he had other stuff written. He had, some other guns and stuff. He was a trans.   It was his   his, trans name was Robin. I think his real name was Robert.   First day of school, Minneapolis,   Catholic mass. They're in there saying mass before the school day starts.   This guy comes from the outside of the building on one side of the church.   He goes in. There's exit doors there evidently.  

And, with handles on the outside, and he barricades that with two by fours or wood   so nobody can get out.   And he just starts shooting into the, crystal glass of the,   of the Catholic church.   Killed at least two, maybe more died since. He wounded a couple, killed at least two children, one of them 10, the other one probably about the same age. Then he took his own life, the little chicken shit bastard.   Now there'd been two   other incidents   in Minneapolis   the day before and another one before that. So we don't know if he was the culprit on all those yet.   But, anyway, now it brings the whole trans   stuff, which they would have loved to have held the information.  

If they could have got the authorities to scrub it, then they could selectively   release it, you   know, on the things that he had and whatnot and and paint the story. But here is a situation.   It may be one of the first times   where technology   has outraced the   establishment news,   because they got this stuff off the web before they could get it and then selectively   steer the story,   on a big story. K?   So, that was very interesting to me.   And those were about the two the big events,   that are continuing to get legs   right now.  

So anybody got any comments on either one of those situations or what I described there? I probably left some things out that may have been important.  

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I just work off Yeah. Roger. I do. Getting old.  

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I couldn't even remember Joseph's name. So,   does anybody have any, comments,  

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or questions?  

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Yikes.   Okay.   I guess not. Roger, can you hear me? Let me get Joseph, did you make it back with us today?  

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Hey. Pardon me? Roger's muted, Paul, because he was gone there for about Joseph hadn't made I don't know quite today yet. Sagging spend a lot of time with him. He came back after he can't hear us.  

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I I feel sometimes we beat these people up, you know, and everybody's wanting to add something and give him their   spin and and everything else. And,   so I don't want the boy to get overwhelmed.   You know?   Yes. Somebody got a mic open there.  

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Click click. I heard click click.  

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Do we have anybody? Me raw. Can you hear me? Well, now I can hear both of you. I don't Okay. Hold on. Okay. Okay. Then I'm off of my Hold up. It's Mary. Right?   Yes.   Okay. Well, I guess she's having a problems with the mute or something. Mary, are you there? No. I no. I had a I had a network reset, and,  

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I came back into Zoom muted and so you couldn't hear people trying to talk to you. I'm still trying to get remote control running.   Honestly, the Internet's making me crazy.  

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Alright. Does somebody wanna try again? We'll see if we can complete the mission here. Mary. Mary and I know Dave. Okay. And Dave. Alright. There's Mary. Don't touch anything. Don't touch anything. Yes. I'm not touching. Okay.  

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I won't touch nothing. Okay.   Do you think all of these,   like,   shootings and things like that because there's a lot of incidents going around everywhere, like,   you know, with the police officers, which is so important to do this process because there's a gentleman in Arkansas   that his daughter was taken out of his home. And if it wasn't for the dogs waking him up by a sixty seven year old ex sheriff,   and he called the police. He already had a restraining order. Yeah. In Arkansas, this just happened about a month ago. And, he ran him into a ditch hoping his daughter could escape,   and she tried getting out the door. And he pulled her back into the car,   got out of the driver's side vehicle,   and he had his truck   barricading that vehicle.  

And he that that officer had something in his hand. So he that other gentleman was packing, and he shot him, and he's no longer here. And they're charging him with murder. I haven't heard one word about that.  

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There was a case in Arkansas. Yeah. Y'all probably heard about this   where the sheriff went into the judge's,   chambers   and pulled out a gun and killed him right on the spot. Did y'all hear about that one?  

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Yeah. That that was in Mississippi.  

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Oh, it was? I thought it was in Arkansas.   Mississippi. Okay. And the the sheriff Mississippi. Arkansas just recently happened.   Okay. Well, the sheriff   had, or the judge   had been,   getting going to the jails   and the female jail and telling the women to give him favors   and he'd let him out. And he was had been doing all that for a long time and other egregious   stuff. I heard one of the women that had been, in that situation talk about it.   And finally, the sheriff, and I don't remember if he had found out he was diddling with his daughter or something.   But he walked in the judge's chambers and send him send him to the next dimension.  

So a lot Yep. Unbelievable   what's going on in the country out there, folks. But   this is the, well, I'll tell you, Mary, since you're kinda new to this, this is the department,   the departure   from Christian principles   is causing all this,   in my opinion.   Okay? Correct. The only answer Mine too. The only answer to get the world back on track is Christianity.   Now Brent has said that. I I just happen to agree with him. I'm repeating it.   And, of course, what they're breeding is anti Christian stuff as evidenced by what happened in Minneapolis last couple of   Christian stuff as evidenced by what happened in Minneapolis   last couple of days.  

So, hopefully,   hopefully, that'll come, but it's gonna be a hard battle. It's described in the Bible,   and that's   exactly what's going on. You know, there's a lot of animosity and destruction,   burning of Christian churches.   I forget how many churches have been burned in France.   A 150?   Something like that. A huge, huge number of this anti Christian attitude and actions,   and it comes straight from Satan. And what do you do when you go in and tell these young people, oh, you don't feel comfortable in your body?   Why don't you you why don't you switch to the opposite gender?  

And and then they get infested. In fact, on this guy's guns,   I think he had a confrontation   of him with the devil,   a demon of some sort on one of the guns, something.   So we'll find out more info as it goes forward, but it's a horrible situation.   And you know the irony of Well, that's Zionism, isn't it?   Well, it's an outshoot of it. Yes.   It is.   Now the I was mentioning the other day believe too because   Go ahead, Mary. Isn't pharmakea  

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isn't pharmakea in the Bible. Right? Yes. That's what they call it.  

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Yes. It's in Revelations.  

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Right. So   the the jabs,   I believe are contributing, and all the poisons are contributing to these kids getting confused because of all the hormones they're putting in the shots. Well, all of the, the, the, hormone disruptors that they're giving them as children,  

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all of, all of the indoctrination   they're getting in schools, no telling what they're accessing on the internet   And all this is just warping these young people who at that age   don't even know what being an adult is about.   You didn't know jack crap when you were 18 and neither did I. I thought I did.   I thought I knew how everything   operated.   Okay? As all of us do. You're just waking up into this world and you,   believe everything you're seeing and being told is correct, and it's just not. It's this Jewish   they call it magic, m a j I k. It's this Jewish magic that comes out of Freemasonry,   and we're dealing with it straight up with what we do here and equivocation   and assigning opposite definitions of words to keywords,   implanting them in your subconscious,   and all the things that are going on. Yes. All the devil's work.  

And, you know, I consider this a ministry,   although I don't present it as such normally.   But what I try and do is have you simulate   what I went through,   which is the awakening   as you start finding these things that are important to you on the celestial pioneer,   slavery and income tax and the other stuff, and start applying it to these principles, and they all lead back to the Bible.   Every damned one of them, it's a spiritual battle we're in. It's we're, we're fighting principalities   and powers in high places. Places.   That's what we're doing.  

Okay. Okay. Okay.   So, Mary, what else? What else you got? Hold on. We'll get to you in a second here. What else, Mary, have you got?   Mary,   are you fooling with your mute? Well, just this.  

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Yeah. You're in my pocket because I'm smoking a turkey right now. Mhmm.   So I put you in my pocket so I can   yeah. We we do we do a very  

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Okay. And we do Alright. Just hold on. Somebody's  

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I prefer I prefer joints myself.  

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Yes.   Thank you, Alan.   I don't know. I like the smoked turkeys. I like both of them. Okay? So,   anyway, so you're smoking a turkey.   Mayonnaise. Well, I can't smell it from here, and I wanna smell it. So, anyway, sorry.  

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No. But this would have been learning about   the pharmacy, the the Monsanto's,   what they spray in our fields because I'm on a farm and they constantly are spraying   Yeah. And what they do to the cattle because  

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they force these farmers to give them shots. Yes. They're trying to that's not affecting us. No. They're totally screwing up the food system.   You know, there's some there are some places you can access   real good food for the Amish,   Amos Miller's or organic farms or whatever his   deal is, other Amish people, and but it's gonna be probably a little more more expensive, but it's gonna be good food.   But, yes, they're trying to do the whole food supply.   And,   thank God for Robert Kennedy. At least he's trying to put a roadblock up here on some of these things.   And, they they try and sabotage him after he does it, but he is making the effort.  

He and Tulsi Gabbard,   at this point, appear to be the best,   nominees that Trump put up there in cabinet positions to me.   So I don't know. It's the it's just a screwed up world, Mary. You're damn lucky you found us,   and at least we can help point you away from some of that stuff. It sounds like you're already aware of it. But, yeah, it's a it's a mele of a head. Yeah. I'm learning trust now.  

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Okay. All my letters are done, everything.   And then I got,   the paperwork all done,   and now I'm working on learning how to do a trust. Todd  

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is helping with us learning. He's gonna do his trust first and then teach us. Well, I would suggest that y'all wait. And then we'll start teaching the younger generation. I would suggest that y'all wait on doing your trust till you go through this this course that Paul and Brent are offering everybody at a really ridiculously   low rate, $30 or something. K?   Because you got two Yeah. That's people that are really on top of trust. Brent is his specialty   in his practice,   and and, Mark who's done a damn good job with what he was doing also as a twenty plus year   paralegal.  

So, yeah, hold off on that until you get that in. That I add Danielle. I will. Okay. Okay. And it's important that email too.   Paul. You send it to Paul. Paul can give you the address here and, just   wait for him to put it together. He'll notify everybody that's contacted him and on the list, and Okay. We'll get things started. Paul, you wanna, it's [email protected].   Is that right?  

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Yeah.   There's there's actually   seven people that have signed up on commonlawyer.com   so far,   and there are three more   that sent a donation, but they didn't say anything about being part of the trust group.  

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Seven people is all that have signed up for that? Seven people so far have gone to commonlawyer.com  

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and put in the $30 donation.   And you have to follow that up with an email to [email protected].   That's [email protected].   And you have to tell them that   you made the donation   for the Radio Ranch Trust Group because there were three people that didn't do that, and I don't know if they're part of our group   or not. There was John Hales. I believe he is.   There was a Douglas Adleman,   m a n n,   and a Cheryl Ann Brammer, b r a m e r. Wow.   Those three people, they made donations, but they didn't say that it was for the Radio Range Trust Group. They didn't follow it up with the emails. And this is this is to Joy.   This is to joy. Francine was the one that, sent me the email.  

70 people have,  

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signed up so far. There are another three that may have been in our group, and they're just trying to track down whether whether or not they were from our group or not. Send them a return email and ask them. Yeah. So, okay. Well, I'm kinda shocked that the numbers are that low. I would have thought there'd been a lot more people wanna participate in this for that price, but, you know, who knows? Things   surprise me all the time. Oh, no. No. There's there's,  

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there are over 50 have have expressed   that they wanna be part of the group.   But in order to actually get enrolled, you have to go to commonlawyer.com.   Uh-huh. You have to click on the donate button.   You have to send a donation   for $30.   You have to put in your name   and your email address,   and then send a follow-up email after your payment is collected and all that.   Then you send an email to inchurch,   innchurch,@commonlawyer.com   saying, hello. This is me.   I want to be added to the list for the,  

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Radio Ranch Trust Group. Do you have a little step by step on this? You might want people inquire. You might want us, us if you don't,  

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send that brief back to them with Yeah. I am going to be I'm going to be sending it out, but,   I had,   eight network failures  

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today. Oh. Oh my god. Well, are they messing with us or what? Show.   Are they messing with us or what? No idea what's going on.  

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Studio c is just, like, just having trouble, and that is the machine that just gets pummeled with denial of service attacks. It gets pummeled. I   I mean, the network card on that computer   is flashing like,   shit. I don't know. Like, twinkle twinkle little star. It's just going for hell bent for leather. So Well, it's all that's all over our heads on the technical stuff. I'm sorry you're having problems,  

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and I hope it's not instigated   by them. But, you know, they've left us alone for many years, and they know we're here. Yeah.   And so I don't know. But,   we will   overcome.   Yep. What's that in the song?  

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I have replaced   every piece of equipment   from   where the cable comes into my building   all the way through all the hubs and switches to each   individual computer. I have replaced everything with brand new reconfigured equipment,   and it's still giving me trouble. So I haven't found   the found the flaw yet, but I'm working on it. We'll continue to look.  

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Alright. Mary There are William in Augusta. Hey, William on the let me see if we got Mary taken care of. Mary, did we get your   questions or comments taken care of?  

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Yes. You did. And I'm on the common law website right now. Okay.   So it's pretty easy.  

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Yes. I think so.   Let's see if we can go. William, welcome. We haven't seen you in a few days. How are you doing?   I'm good. How are you? Oh, pretty good all in all today. You usually come forth when you've got something to tell us   of significance. Is that another case today?  

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Yes. Another case today. Alright.   I was listening   yesterday with Joseph. I've been I've been studying the slaughterhouse cases. Yes, sir. And That's an interesting case. He plugged   yeah. If he plugs his nose into that, there's a book out there   about the slaughterhouse cases.   Forget the name of it on top of my head, but I'm reading it now.   But it's pretty it's pretty plain. I mean, in in in there that they, you know, US citizens are free blacks. And,  

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you know, that's that's what they are. It's a very, very specific case for the new people. Let's just some of the folks on here may not   be familiar with this. One of the it was the first case. It's case of first impression, they call it. On the fourteenth amendment, came out of Louisiana   as a lot of this stuff did, actually.   And,   the,   the course, Louisiana was settled by the French,   and bought from France and all that. There's a lot of French people over there, and they you know, the French people are not exactly known for   their food hygiene, let's say,   where they go to the meat shop and they got the meat hanging up there and the flies buzzing around it and all that kind of stuff.  

So that's their reputation. And so when they own plantations and what they would do when they slaughtered their animals   is they just take the remains and go throw it the Mississippi River.   And the problem was it was getting caught downstream,   as, in the intake valves because   the New Orleans uses the Mississippi River for their water supply.   And, that was the background of the case. Louisiana   passed a   on the   with a well, I would think a legitimate,   issues   on con on a public health thing of and they dictated that now you couldn't slaughter your animals on the on the plantation anymore. You had to take them to a designated   official state slaughterhouse   so that they could dispel dispose of the remains properly.  

And there was a lot of cases that popped up, people going to court,   over this. Sometimes it was really   a problem for the plantation owners. It's long ways away, long ways back, and the inconvenience   involved and etcetera.   And so they lumped all those cases together and they called them the slaughterhouse   cases,   plural. That's why.   Went to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said, we look, we empathize with you. We sympathize with you. But you're bringing this case up as a citizen of The United States under the new fourteenth amendment, and you're white butchers.   You're not black former slaves.  

So bring the case up on some grounds we can decide it on, and we'll look at it again.   Basically, just a thumbnail background. Interesting case,   it's got all kinds of the differentiations   is what William's   about to get to between the former black slaves and the white butchers or the white people and the citizen of The United States versus the,   citizen of The United States Of America, if you would, back then. So, anyway, William, sorry to interrupt you and derail you. I hope I didn't steal any of your steam there. Tell us what you're finding about it that's interesting to you. No. It's,  

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you know, it hasn't been overturned.  

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No. Never. Still applicable.   Sure.   They called back good law. Things. They the the the term for that is that it's still good law. It hasn't been overturned. Okay?  

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To hear the, author talk about it and some of the other authors talk about it, it's   given, like, that evil.   You know? So it's like Yeah. This was a this was horrible interpretation,   but it it it legally was the way, you know, the way it should have been and the way it is. Yes.  

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And, of course, what So   Go I'm sorry, William. Go ahead. I'll put my 2¢ in when you finish.  

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You know, they codified that,   in the civil rights and under, you know, US code 42. Yeah. We talked about it yesterday a bit.   Nineteen eighty two, 83, 86, all those. Yeah.   That's right in there that white citizens and US citizens are different. So,   I ended up my my car gave up the ghost, so I had to buy another car. Uh-oh.  

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There's taxation   again.  

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Yep. I'm gonna take another run at this ridiculous tack.   It was it was over $2,400   for this car. I mean, cars are just expensive, but,  

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Yeah. Did you buy it new or used?  

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It was used, but lightly lightly used. Uh-huh.  

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So,  

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I wrote a letter.   I got the tax receipt and wrote a letter, and I'd like to read it if we got just a second. Sure. We got more in a second. Go ahead.  

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Okay. This on that I spoke for the audience.   This is on ad valorem tax on the state   inside the state of Georgia on the buy and sell the vehicle. In the secondary market, did you buy it or straight from the individual?  

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I bought it from a dealer, and the dealer,   you know, they they process all that for you. Okay. So you don't have an option from the dealer, especially if you finance it. You   you gotta get the title processed. Sure.   So   and and the reason I was looking at the slaughterhouse cases was right in there in Reconstruction   was when the largest state, the capital s state of Louisiana,   and the smallest Louisiana   state   legislature changed.   And, I think, you know, I was trying to describe in this letter that,   you know, now that they're a reconstructed   state of Georgia,   they're part of the federal government, and   and and I'm not a party to that anymore.  

So I've that's what I wrote. I wrote, enclosed is my appeal of the tablet for my vehicle on the basis of taxability.   This is not an appeal of value. I hereby request a refund in the amount paid tax receipt enclosed.   Also enclosed is a copy of my citizenship evidence on file with the secretary of state,   establishing my citizenship as a national white citizen   in in in brackets.   National citizens are nonresident to the residency as comp contemplated in the fourteenth amendment   and alien to the federal citizenship of The United States.   The state of Georgia is a political subdivision of The United States.  

Therefore, per 26 CFR 1.1   dash one a, I'm a nonresident alien to The United States and thereby the state of Georgia and its tax laws, which are mandated mandated exclusively for taxpayers.   As a national, I am not a US person ascribed civil rights under the fourteenth amendment and therefore do not owe the correlative duties, which include   being subject to the laws of the state.   Mhmm. As defined in Georgia code, nonresident alien individuals are not taxpayers.   And then another section of the code states that being a resident of Georgia is a rebuttable presumption.   As a national, white citizens   are equal to US citizens.  

42 US code nineteen eighty two guarantees nationals within the states the same rights as US citizens,   which include to purchase and hold real and personal property. I have a right to obtain title to my vehicle even though I'm not subject to the tax laws of the state as a nonresident alien. For the reason stated herein,   the tablet is not applicable to me and my property lacks tax ability by the state. If for any reason you cannot honor this refund, please provide the Georgia laws applicable   to nationals or nonresident alien individuals in support of your denial   and request and I request information relating to the next step   in my administrative appeal.  



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Congratulations.   That's a great letter.   For all you new folks, and I keep telling   you the amount of your freedom is determined by how well you know and have command of the information. I think you just heard,   someone who really has command of the information writing a letter to authorities   saying give me back this. You don't have it. It's mine.   And excellent job, William. Right.  

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Okay. Right. So we'll see we'll see what they do,   whether they send me a canned response or whatever. If if anything, I could appeal it to the superior court. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You've got all kinds of, of appellate. What's my next step in my administrative appeal?  

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And you'd probably go internally in the tax division until you got to a point where you could take it to court would be my guess. I don't know. Never done anything like this personally,   but I sure applaud you for doing it and sticking with it.   William had done this with a car he bought earlier,   and it the tie he he he didn't get it in time. It wasn't timely. This is a brand new purchase, and it's timely. And you're on top of it because you learned the last time where where it fell through the cracks.  

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Right. Yeah. Last time, I just applied for a refund, which is an option,   that the state gives you,   through the tax commissioner's office. And the tax commissioner's office,   the state, the county attorney   said that, because I had provided a Social Security number, I was subject to the laws of the the state, which we all know is not true. No.   But it but by that point, by the time I'd gotten that   realization, I'd exceeded the seventy five day window   to appeal with the appeals board.   And, so they fired back. And so a last ditch effort, I took it straight to the state,   because it is a state tax and,   and with the state tax tribunal.  

And as as we discussed before, they they denied it or they dismissed it on on subject matter jurisdiction because they claim since they didn't collect,   enforce or collect the tax that they didn't they weren't responsible for it. Okay. This where you go back to the guy in the county. Right?   Yep.  

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Well, you got all that down. Let's see how they react. Good job, William.   And I I love to see you. So this is one of those ways   where we can very gently,   but with authority, press the envelope.   And that's where we've really gotten answers to big questions is when people do something like this.   So, we're anxious to hear how they respond and how this develops,   William, and good good shot at taking another shot at them.  

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Yeah. I went in I went back and looked. I took some verbiage out that I had in the letter before, which they dismissed because I was outside of the window to appeal. But,   I had some verbiage in there before about, you know, not having the option to choose,   national on   the license plate or driver's license application.   Yeah. So I went back and and reviewed those applications,   and,   you either have to be a US citizen or   or provide proof that,   that you're allowed to be in the country legally. So   I don't know if you could submit the affidavit   and the passport   when you  

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renew or apply for the driver's license. Well, it sounds like the state has authority over their own forms, don't they?  

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Yep. Sounds like it. Uh-huh.  

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Well, that's lack of full disclosure right there.  

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Yep.   Yep. I'll take that verbiage out. I was just gonna keep it plain and simple. But I really wanted to make that association between   nationals and white citizens   and how white citizens   in the code are different from   US citizens because they're black. Yep. And the and the law supports it. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Law history,   precedent, all of it supports it.   It's all there. Right. And, so   what if they refuse you   and you go back and do an administrative appeal,   that's when you want to bring that stuff in, bring the heavy artillery in on them.  

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Right. Right.   So we'll see what they say. I'll, William. I'll ask him yes. Fantastic.   Yeah. I just wanted to wanna let the news the new folks know. I know there's a lot of them with Todd's group   and Joseph yesterday.   If you just, grab a book and and look at those slaughterhouse cases, I mean, they're it's just   it's unbelievable when you read it, and it's exactly what what Roger teaches, and it's and it lays it right out there for you in in black and white That's right. Literally.   And,   and,   you know, now they've they've gone and screwed the pooch, in my opinion,   with Brown v Board and and made us equal. So,   they they kinda have to acquiesce   or or they or they're in violation of  

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of their rights? They gotta fess up on it. See, again, they never thought anybody would dig this deep and discover this and understand it   because of some of the things that they use that are antiquated that they don't even teach in law schools anymore.   Although   I think the slaughterhouse cases   is one of the cases that you cover or expose to students   early on in their law school career.   I I first year kinda law school students, but they may not be doing that anymore. I don't know.  

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Yeah. I was talking to a couple attorneys, and they're familiar with the case. But Yeah.   That's that's you know, they don't have any detailed   knowledge of it.   And for most of the law that they're practicing, it's not applicable. No. It's not applicable.  

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No.   No. So Yeah. Most attorneys I've been told, William, that most attorneys   will build a whole career off one section.   They'll find some little niche, and that's they build their whole career on that.   So they're not real versed   in a wide array   of law. As they get into their practice, they generally tend to specialize.  

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Right.   K. And with with pilot certificates,   with being a pilot, you're you're licensed federally.   And on the pilot's,   license application   or certificate application, it says,   what is your nationality?   It doesn't ask citizenship.   Really? Because a lot of lot of yeah. A lot of foreign nationals come over here and get,   license licenses   in The US. Right? Because it's cheaper to train over here than it is in   China or Russia or wherever. Right.   A lot of them come over here for training, but, if you're a foreign national, you have to, you know, jump through some hoops. But if you're a US USA national, which is what's printed on your pilot certificate,   there's no requirement to be   to be a US citizen.  



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Fantastic.   Pleasure.   Yes. There's Larry. Good morning, Larry.  

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Yeah. Good morning. Good morning, William. I was just curious on that form that you just said you fill out where they ask for your nationality.   Is it a blank, or is it, like, little box that you put a check mark in that they give you choices?  

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Everything's digital now, so it's a drop down, and the only selection you have is USA   for us.  

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Really? They don't designate citizen of The United States?  

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No. Mm-mm. No. It's just nationality,  

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and the only   nationality we can be is USA.  

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Right.   Damn. That's really interesting, isn't it?   A little deviation on the forms.  

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Yeah. On the at the federal and it's interesting because it's it's   regulated and and issued at the federal level.  

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Now that form doesn't have an OMB number, does it? Doesn't have to have one because it's not a general app,   information gathering request. It's a specific for people that are wanting to get licensed as pilots. Right?  

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I can look it up real quick.  

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Shouldn't it shouldn't have 7 10. Right. Shouldn't have to have an o m b number.  

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Let's see what what the document shows here.  

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Roger. Yes. We're doing it digitally now. Okay. Yeah. While he's looking. Yes, Larry?  

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Yeah. I was gonna say,   the, Weiss Paris,   has a video,   and they they claim   that the definition   that's used for   US citizen on The United States passport   is the is the definition that represents   citizens   as those citizens of the constitutional   republic  

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Well, wise Paris wise Paris states of the union. Wise Paris didn't even know about what we're doing here, so I don't put a whole lot of credence in them, honestly, myself. It it  

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it does have an OMB number. Oh, it does. And,   yep. And,   box f says citizenship   slash nationality,   and there's two checkboxes,   one for USA   and one for other, and then you specify when you if you check the other box. What country? What your other nationality is. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. But it says citizenship   slash nationality   Mhmm. And it's USA or other. Uh-huh.  

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Well, that's good. Thank you, William.   Larry, you know,   Joe Lustica ran into a gal   that represents wise Paris even though he's dead.   And she didn't know anything about what we're doing here. They had no idea about the status change or anything else, and that comes from Joe Lustica.   I don't know how they're being successful at whatever they're accomplishing,   but they there's a lot they didn't know and don't still don't. It's what I gather. K?  

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They believe your status changes when you,   send in a revocation of election to the to the   IRS that you were always   what they call an American national   that if you were born in one of the 50 states of the union,   you were always an American national, but you were tricked into believing   you were a citizen of the statutory United States. Correct. And you can correct that through the, process that Congress   has   enacted Uh-huh. Through 26 United States code sixty thirteen g by terminating the election.  

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Yeah. Well, they didn't terminate the election. They didn't send the change to the secretary of state, did they?   So they didn't change status.  

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I I agree that your process is less riskier than theirs.  

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Well, it's more let's say it's more correct than theirs.   Because you see, they're falling into the same they're falling into the same trap that John and Glenn did. They had us file the the affidavit in the property records office and didn't know about the secretary of state. We know that if you don't do the secretary of state, you don't change status.   You don't change it by submitting shit to the IRS.   That cost me $35,000.   I know that lesson personally.  

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Roger.  

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Yes.  

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Yeah. Along those lines, do you know if when The United States   filed their loss their their criminal complaints against John and Glenn,   Did they try to,   attach as an exhibit   to to their answer,   their their, citizenship evidence  

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that was filed in the property records office? I don't know. They're the one there. You don't do that. I I don't know, with the blow by blow by that trial. Larry, it took him over five years to get him in jail.   K? It was a long, long trial because everything time something came up,   John and Glenn would object, and they'd have to send   the objection to the tenth circuit.   The tenth circuit in Denver would have to get it in their calendar and go over it and get the what their decision was back or their opinion,   Joe, sorry, back,   to the Salt Lake City trial, and then they continue, and then there'd be another objection. So it took them a long time to get them. I I can't. I I know they had 90 charges up against Glenn,   and not one of them had anything to do with what we're talking about here.  



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Hey, Roger. I took a class,   about fifteen years ago.   But we we were taught that you elect income for taxation.   So if you were to go back, I kinda believe like you do. If you were to go back for three years,   you're revoking that income that you had previously   elected for taxation.   But, this revocation of election that I see with all the reading I've done on it because I've got a friend with a   nonresident alien spouse. She's an illegal Mexican.   They've been married for about twenty years,   and they can't seem to get her citizenship.   But,   you can elect if you have a nonresident alien spouse   and you're and you're a US citizen. You can elect to treat   your nonresident alien spouse as a US citizen  

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and elect those funds for taxation or those that have them for taxation. Yeah. Because they want you both as slaves for the next year. That's why. I will let you in. Come on in.  

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And then if you wanna if you wanna change that,   that's when you have to go do that revocation of election and tell them that, no. I don't wanna elect my nonresident alien spouse   as a US citizen anymore. Her his or her income as a US citizen anymore, and I wanna elect elect to,   revoke that,   election   and,   treat her or him as a nonresident alien   going forward.   Yeah. So I don't really think that revocation of election that they're reading   in the code is not my personal opinion that it's related to a   spouse that's being treated one way under the tax code, and you wanna change it back,   to a nonresident alien. That's   that's what I think they're looking at there and getting a little sidetracked.  



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It's easy to get sidetracked in this deep, deep   bog of ambiguity   with, these people and fraud.   So,   I I know the first few people   the first few people they ever went through this course were friends of theirs in Utah.   And, they they were initially, they got checks back.   And then when the IRS figured out what was going on, they shut that gate real quick, and we got   $500   frivolous filing penalties. Now 5,000.   So   okay.   Hi, Raj. Well, there's Dave again. Yes, sir Dave. What are you bringing us?  

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Yeah. Well, back where when we were talking about the, when you got kicked off or whatever, we lost you for a little bit, and you You did? Came back at a you were talking about,   Infowars   talking about   the the cranny shooting.   Yes. And, you know,   I I I wanna go back to that.   I think it's very important.   It is. You know, this weekend  

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pardon me? It is very important.  

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Yeah. And   and I'm gonna blame it on along with Jonathan Emore, that's Wallach's attorney who sued the FDA 10 times and won.   He blames it on the psychiatric  

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industry. Now Yeah. There's a lot of blame to go there. For the  

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Yeah. There there's a group out there in California called the CCHR.   It's the Citizens Commission   on Human Rights. I don't like the human rights stuff. You know, we're not humans,   but, they do some good work, and they've made   probably at least 10 documentaries   about   how the psychiatric   industry   is there's children as young as five years old on psychotropic   drugs, and the main ingredient is fluoride.  

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Yep. Not They're all fluoride based. Fluoride.  

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Yes. Hydrofluorosilicic   acid. It is the most   corrosive   acid known to man.   They where they put that stuff in the water, in all these municipalities, they have to have a separate   station where it goes in, and the bags are all have skull and cross bones on them. There's a shower there.   If you get any of that on you, you gotta shower off. It it says right on our, you know, old toothpaste tubes.   If you swallow more than a pea sized amount called poison control,   there's more than a pea sized amount in every bottle of water they sell at the store.   And   that stuff,   those pipes have to be replaced every three years   or sooner. They they've caused   cement fires. So, you know, it   just destroys   everything it touches, including the brains   of these little children and not just the children, everybody.  

Those   these trannies   today,   not the ones that have a birth defect,   you know, that were, you know, born with this. These are taught. And these the the the children in school today are being so   inundated by the teachers   and the the   the protocols, the curriculums,   and the bullies,   you know, they're   it's just it's off the charts. And they put these kids on these drugs very young, and then they start teaching them to be a tranny. Oh, you're not happy as a boy. You could be a girl, or you can be a hundred hundred and one other Dalmatians. Right? Uh-huh. On top of all the hormone blockers and stuff they're giving them.  

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It's a it's a pathetic thing. Nothing you said is wrong there,   and a lot of that comes from   Go ahead.  

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Not only do these drugs,   you know, destroy your brain, they talk to you.   They tell you right in the insert   when you pick up your script at the pharmacy,   at the pharmakeia, like Mary said, pharmakeia. That's witchcraft and sorcery. The,   the bible talks about it. Beware of pharmakeia.   How can we not know that pharmakia is pharmacy?   Pharmacea. I mean, it's so   blatantly   obvious. Right? Alright. I But but we they tell you they tell you in the insert,   this drug may cause  

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Suicide.  

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Homicidal   tendencies   Yep. Suicidal  

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tendencies  

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or both. Yep. And these drugs are talking. They talk to you. These people hear voices in their head. They think it's God telling them to kill people? No. It's the freaking drug. It's the government. It's the pharmacy.   And who's in charge of most of the major pharmacy  

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companies in the world? I know all of them. The the CEOs are all Jews. Of course they are. All of them. In Israel. Well, one of them. Are. I forget which one, and I forgot his name. It was just on the tip of my tongue. He just appointed with,   Larry Fink to,   ride herd over the WEF. He's a Hoffman was his name. I think he's from one of heads one of the other ones. Yeah. They're all they're all Jews in it. And all this stuff comes from   Freud   and psychoanalysis.   Quick, David. And all, just a second. All the psychobabble.   Yes. Just hold on. Yes. We'll get you.  

All the psychobabble and the,   the   polarity   crap and all the fake diagnosis   they've got. So now they can develop trouble to their bellies. Holly, please. Well, yeah, they they they then they can develop a drug that they know is bad to prescribe it for you. It all goes back to Freud.   K? Really. Now was that Mary trying to say something? Dave, I hope you feel better.   Was that Mary trying to say something? Yes, dear.  

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Yeah. Real quick. What was the name of that group? Because this is the exact reason I'm trying to get my daughter off all these antipsychotics   that she's been on. Her whole entire life. Oh. CCHR.  

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Stittlestons   Commission on Human Rights   dot org. C  

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c hr. Hr.h.org.   Oh, hr.  

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Yeah. And that's gonna be cchr.org.   And those are some of the most difficult withdrawals. Illinois just passed?   No.   You want to tell me what it was Oh, I did hear I think I did hear something about it. What did Pritzker do up there?  

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Governor JB Pritzker signed it into law last Friday at executive order. All children in all public schools from age three to twelfth grade   have to have a new test in school, and that new test is a psychological  

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examination. Yeah. There you go. And that's what they talked about that.   They've made a documentary,   the CCHR,   about that very thing that they've been doing this for years. And that sometimes they send a note home and ask the the the parents for permission. Most of the time, they don't. And if you don't tell them that what your wishes are or your demands,  

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they take it as a task of agreement, and they do it anyway. If your child objects to if if if your child objects to that I just heard this gone over. Let me see if I can recall it. In California,   if your child objects to that,   they say that they are mentally ill,   and they have to go fill out another form, some kind of a permission request or something. And then that labels them as mentally ill and puts them in the file like that so they can deal with them later on. It's all this backwards just like this equivocation with what we're doing here. It's their typical typical approach to things.   And, yeah. The the so if you object to that, they have you fill out something and the determination of that form is that you're mentally ill and they'll classify you as that from then on. So it's all of this stuff that's going on out there, folks, with the children. It's   just repulsive and merry.  

If your child has been on that, all of they've had her on all that stuff. For a quarter of thirty eight years, thirty  

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well,   the MMR vaccine gave Danielle a seizure disorder,   and she already has cerebral palsy. Oh my god. It's reborn.  

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Not the cerebral palsy, but everything else is reversible.  

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But It that's a very seizures  

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four hours after the shot. They put her on Depakine,  

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Depakote Mhmm. Carvatrol, TopHemax. Well, I don't know what it is. Antipsychotic. She was on that for over twenty years. Oh my god. Well, it's it's gonna be very difficult. Seizure meds. It's very difficult. Gonna   wean her off of that. I think that's a real   hard question. Address that too. I I guess. Okay. Go ahead, Dave. You want I'll let you take over the show. Go ahead.  

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Our   our daughter   had a seizure disorder from a vaccine.   They said she had,   you know, oh, she was born with it. They put her on all those same things over the years at 10 years old. And at,   22 years old,   she had a child.   And, you know,   we we weren't involved   until she was already pregnant. Her,   she went to her,   OBGYN,   and she allowed her to get she was trying to get pregnant, and that doctor allowed her to stay on all them drugs   while getting pregnant and through the pregnancy. When we found out   we just found doctor Wallach   a few years before that, and they told my daughter she would never drive. She was on disability,   for depression and other stuff, and   she drives now.  

All of her   seizures   stopped.   It was all food based and the, you know, the drugs,   you know, initiated it, but it's all food based.   And   when you stop   feeding that bad crap and you take the 90 nutrients that Wallach figured out that every   body needs for your body weight,   stuff starts   repairing. The body repairs itself. So I'm telling you, my daughter is 30.   Well, her she's 32. Her son is 12,   and, or she's 34. Her son is 12.   He, you know, he was in the womb on those drugs,   and we put him on, you know, these nutrients   as soon and started weaning her off.  

And, you know, she she nursed him for two years   and was administering the nutrition,   you know, with her own,   you know, breast milk. And the child has not been vaccinated.   And, you know,   he's he's not   a victim of the   the pharmaceutical   mafia.   And,   anyway, there's hope out there for you, Mary.  

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You I hope so because these meds are killing her, literally killing her. I'm trying to get her. We have to tape her in an Illinois.   Because of him passing this law, we're a seventy two hour hold state, and I know my daughter hears voices. I know she does. That's not a law. Wall.  

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That's not a law. Saying what he's gonna do. Dave, please let her finish. Please let her finish. We've got a delay here. We can't have duplex conversations.   Okay? Mary, the and y'all also you take all these benefits from the state. Right?   Yes. And that's where I'm stuck. Yeah. You gotta get paid to do this.  

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Right. And   they will not send me a doctor to properly taper her off, but I did find a psychiatrist out of Utah   that is helping me with the the new useless idiot doctor that she has. That's for drug addicts and alcoholics, but mind you, that doesn't pertain to Danielle. Like, whatever. Girl doesn't even drink, doesn't smoke. She doesn't do nothing. She has a mind of a child for the rest of her life.   But that being said, just to let you guys know, Todd's in the hospital.   Todd can't walk.  

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Uh-oh. I wondered where he was. He really  

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he broke down   and had to go. His doctor kinda pushed him into it.   I think it's a pinched nerve, the sciatic nerve,   because of the way it's shooting down his leg. So I he just wanted me to tell you guys hi.   He loves and misses y'all, and he'll be back as soon as he can, and I heal. Okay. We gotta get Todd on the on the wand.  

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He didn't know about it. You you folks that are new don't know about this. We were talking about it for several years. It's died off and died down.   But it's this miracle wand using a terahertz waves,   And they have had some unbelievable   results,   especially with neurological   oriented stuff, Mary.   And, I mean, the people affected by this COVID shot that were one one girl up by where you are up in Ohio.   She had for the second time, she had the gun in her mouth ready to pull the trigger,   and somebody turned her on the wand, and it and it's totally changed her life. A couple of these   folks are real affected by the shots.  

So, the testimonials on it are very impressive,   and, I really, wanna find out from Todd if he can get one of those.   If I could, I used to could send out one. Send them, give them to people, but I can't do that anymore.   So, anyway, when he gets back, you tell him we love him and we're sure sorry, and we may have something   that can give him some relief. Okay?  

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I'll tell him. And what is it? It's the wand. Is there a website for it so I can it up? Well, yeah. Yeah. The best thing to do is go on to YouTube  

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and it's and put in Itera, I,   capital t, e r a,   wand.   And you'll find more testimonials over there that you can shake a stick at. Okay?   And, everybody's  

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trying to get the network to that, Raj?  

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Pardon me, Dave?  

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Paul's got a link to that on his web on the website, I believe.  

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Yeah. Yeah. We can probably get some information. I don't even have your email address, Mary. But, anyway,   you can go on there and see all these testimonials, some of them from the company. They had a whole series of testimonials,   and,   that's where you can find out about it. It's out of China.   Guy   scientist worked six years on it. He isolated the frequencies   in the terahertz   wave band   that are the sun's   healing   frequencies.   And it's in this little like a hairdryer   thing,   and   it delivers those frequencies, and   they've had miraculous   results with it.  

I can't promise it's gonna help Todd,   but people, especially neurological   stuff, nerves,   it does really well with. K? Because it's energy.   And,   so that's what it is. In a brief, you can go look it up and do look at some testimonials on the web. Or,   Paul, where where is the website posted?  

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It's right at the beginning of the program, but,  

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Yeah.  

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I I just have Todd just reach out to me directly,   and I'll point him in the right direction. Or Okay.   He can reach out to John Kasarab.  

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Yeah. That's what I was gonna put him in touch with Kasarab.   John, who hadn't been with us the last few Mondays since you guys have been hanging around.   Usually, he's here with us   on Mondays, and he's a old friend of the show from, early days and just a really good guy. And he kinda spearheaded this.   So, we'll we'll put Todd in touch with John, hopefully. Okay?   Cross your fingers. He'll be here Monday. He hasn't been for the last few Mondays. He was on a   high school reunion thing in   Ohio or whatever. He hadn't been around for a while, but this is the summer, and we'll get back into a more regular routine   probably starting next week. K? Mhmm.  

The school starts. If it hadn't already started, it'll start next next week, I think. They're on. And then all the young kids can look forward to go into school to get indoctrinated   with all this trans crap.   Yes. Paul and somebody else here.  

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Okay.   If you go on the matrix stocks, there's a little blue box,   pale blue box, upper right hand corner. There's a phone number in there. I just have Todd call,   Colton John Kasarab directly.  

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And leave a message because you'll have to leave a message. There's a number there, and, we'll get to him. I'll reach out to him or something, and maybe he'll be here next Monday. His, schedule's just been real, messed up.   Yep.   Not like Alan's. Like Alan. We hadn't seen Alan in five or six weeks until here recently. So   okay. Now there was a guy behind Paul. Wanna say something? Hey, Roger.  

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Was that Bob? Yeah. That's me. Bob. Is that Bob?   Yes. Hey, Bob. Give me a few minutes or a few moments to develop this.   Do y'all remember fenbendazole?  

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Yes. It's still being talked about.   It's I don't know how it's found, but it's still being talked about. Would you please let me talk, Roger?   I'm sorry, Bob.  

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Damn it.   You tell people not to interrupt, and you interrupt constantly.  

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I'm Pisses me off. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll try and be less like him now. Start over. Let me start over.  

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I understand. Be more like the other guy, not like Alex. Remember? Yes.   I love your show. It just frustrates me when people call in. You tell them not to interrupt, and you interrupt. And then I do the same thing. Okay. Well, I'm the host. Exactly. Alright. Go ahead.   You can say that. Alright. Fenbendazole.   The way it was found, the way it was discovered to be effective on cancer   and, of course, this is not medical advice. Speak to a licensed professional if you can find one you trust.   Get that out of the way. The way it was discovered was they were trying to induce cancer in rats,   mice, whatever.  

And   when   they got them, they wanted to make sure   that they, you know I think they were feeding they they were doing some kind of research on,   artificial sweeteners, if I remember correctly. The bottom line is some of them, they couldn't induce cancer into, and they realized that they had   those particular animals   had been on fenbendazole   to keep parasites away   to keep them healthy so they'd have a healthy specimen to work on.   So   you you take that. I listened to doctor Sherry Rogers. She was a once or twice a month on,   Joyce Riley Show for years.  

And I listened to Joyce Riley   pretty faithfully for a number of years till she passed.   And Sherry Rogers brought forward something that I just it's a marvel of how   words mean things.   It's all a matter of how you express it. Okay.   I would put forward the idea that side effects   on medicine, they're not side effects at all. They're just effects.   And the reason I say that is because depending on how it's labeled,   if it had been   used for a certain purpose and they realize, hey. We can do this.   This works another way.   We're gonna label it differently, and other things are listed as side effects. In other words,   when you get to some point in the evolution of this drug,   what is now the main effect   in some iteration prior was a side effect.  

Does that make sense? Am I explaining this well?  

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Maybe kinda.  

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In other words, when you call it a side effect, it it gives it some kind of validity. Like, we didn't intend for it to do that. It's up on you. It's on you. Right.   But the fact is   it's just an effect because it's all about how it's labeled. It's all a matter of semantics.   If it's labeled in a certain way, this is a side effect. But in a previous iteration of the drug,   it was the point,   and other things were side effects. It's all about how you label things. It's all about Yeah. Words  

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and what they mean. And  

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the whole world seems to come down to that, doesn't it?  

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Yes. It does. That's that's kinda my point. So when you when I heard, you know, talking about different and the other thing Sherry Rogers brought up is that drugs   don't fix anything.   They block pathways Yes.   In the body Right. To mask   the effects or the symptoms. Right. It's the old, you know, piece of tape over the over the idiot light on the dash of your car. You didn't fix anything. You just don't have to worry about it because it ain't there anymore. Right? Right. And,   that was a revelation to me when she made that clear, and she was is   a western medicine. You know, she she got brought up in it and then figured out that it wasn't fixing her because she had some maladies, and her specialist, her buddies couldn't make it make it go away. And she realized, you know, this isn't this is a  

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this don't work. She's a sharp cookie. She's a sharp cookie.   Now don't you have Fenbenzol,   which is somewhat pricey, is my understanding?   And then they've got Mendevisol,   which is somehow closely related, but a lot less expensive   and still effective. Am I right on that? That's what I was trying to get in.  

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No.   No? Okay. No. Not aware of that. Fenbendazole   is supposed to be the preparation for animals, and menbendazole   is the preparation for humans. However,   menbendazole   does have an interaction with ivermectin.   So if you use the two together,   you got big trouble.  

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So Really? I thought it would So I thought it would, compliment each other.  

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No.   No. No. Men bend us all So that I ever met and they   they fight each other.  

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Okay. What what what doc Is there a formula for women called womanbendazole?  

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I don't know, but I I just asked him for a I think I heard, the McCullough, doctor McCullough talking. I think he uses menbendazole   in what they you purchase from them.   K? I think.   But it might be wrong, but I'm but I'm close. I'm pretty sure I'm close. What? Do you know what's really, really scary?  

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You can buy   fenbendazole   in two hundred and twenty two milligram tablets   and ivermectin   in   six tubes of the horse paste.   You can buy those on Timu   That's scary. Timu? What's Timu? From China.  

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Oh.  

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You yeah. Right.  

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Amazon of China.  

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That's Yeah. Is worse. Okay. Yes, Bruce. You're there been faintly in the background. How are you, mister Bruce?  

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I was here. Oh,  

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I didn't even I'm a tell you this.  

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I'm stepping out.  

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Good.  

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You need to. What? Telling Roger to shut up. Oh, hush up, Bruce. He's the master here. It's alright. What? It's alright. No. It isn't. Well, it is with me. Dishonoring you. Well, it's, that's I know. But I'm telling you right now, I'm apologizing for him because he won't do it. Alright. Okay. That was that your piece? Okay. Samuel?  

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Yeah. I just wanted to say that,   the fenbendazole   is not that expensive. It's about $3 a dose for that gram that you take Yeah. On a daily or whatever basis. Uh-huh. That's it's $3 right now. Okay.  

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May I I'm under another a wrong impression of something else. I watch a lot of videos, and so, it's easy to get some of that confused, especially at my age. Samuel, I'll fall back on my age. How about that?  

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Well, you know, when it comes to medications,  

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$3   a a day is, you know, a drop in the bucket compared to what they want for some of their crap, which Oh, yeah. I think Jennifer Daniels probably put it best. She said for every dollar you take in pharmakea,   it cost you $3 to,   fix those effects that they create. It's an exponential scale until your broker, you're dead.  

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Okay. It's probably correct.   I try I don't take anything. I don't even like taking a Tylenol or anything, and I'm gonna have to start doing some of that with this   mouse surgery whenever it comes,   because we don't have any, pain killer class three narcotics down here.   So, it's I'll I'll have to do it for a few days just to get over what I'm sure is gonna be pre pain killers. You can do for that, Roger?   Okay. What's that, Mary? You can get yourself   clove oil and Yeah. Yeah. I think I've got where it hurts? Yes. I know about clove oil. I think I've got some around here somewhere. Okay.   Thank you. Yeah. That's like the old movie, Marathon Man. You remember that movie, Marathon Man with Dustin Hoffman   about the diamonds and the New York sewage and all that?  

Did any of you any of you remember that? Boy, anybody that saw that movie   won't forget it because they use clothes. Is it safe? I never thought of it. Is it safe? Is it safe? Whoo.   They were trying to get this person to spill the beans on where all these die Nazi diamonds were, and the guy was a dentist.   And he would start drilling into his teeth and try and get an answer, and then he'd come back and put clove oil over it and soothe it. That's where I learned about it. Thank you, Brent. You're right. Is it safe?  

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Hey, Raj.  

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Very interesting movie. Yes. And I'm not a movie person. Go ahead, Paul.  

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This program is not intended to treat, diagnose, prevent, or cure any disease and should not be Absolutely not. Medical advice. That being said,   when you have pain   because of your mouth issues,   it would in my estimation, in my personal opinion, it would be a bad idea to do aspirin because it's a blood thinner   and you're probably gonna, like, have,   things healing in your mouth, then a blood thinner might be problematic.   And,   don't mix   NSAIDs. Don't do Tylenol and Ibuprofen   at the same time,   and   don't do either one of them for longer than a week without switching to the other one. If you start on Ibuprofen, do that for a week, And if you still need it, then switch to Tylenol for the next week or acetaminophen.   Well, what? Because   the more   the more you use them, the more your body gets used to them and the less effective they get. So you need to do a switch off.  



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What? I was told by our chiropractor down here to take both of them at the same time. And that that it really does work. It did listen. It's almost equivalent to a class three narcotic. And, otherwise, it's the pain is, very noticeable.   So, anyway, that's the source, and   we've got people that do that down here because they don't have painkillers available.  

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Well, NSAIDs aren't good.   They cause damage. They cause stomach problems   and Yes. This, that, and the other thing. And if you mix them together,   yeah, they're more effective, but they're also more damaging.  

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Well, I'm sure of that. But, you know well, I know. It's one of the others, the the devil in the deep blue sea.   If I would have I should have realized we've got a listener   who's married to a dentist that I know of, and I should have tried to see if I'd have thought of it ahead of time, if he could score some painkillers and get it to the mule   and bring it down here to me, but it's a little late for that, I'm afraid.   Yeah. A little bit. You know, this one of the things you sacrifice living in a foreign country. You won't have the dream you see and availability   except through a side route   of things you guys can order and get every day. K? Just one of the sacrifices. I didn't get coca leaves.  

Yes. I could probably run up to, Quito and find where the market is. There are people that sell coca leaves up there.   Probably not bad. Try? Well, it's probably not a bad idea.   What about your wand?   Well, the wand will be coming handy too. It's a great painkiller.   I've used it in the past. So it'll be a combination, all that stuff. Maybe it won't be as bad as I'm thinking it is, but   seven implants in one day on both,   a top and bottom of your mouth, not 14, but seven total.   It seems like it's gonna be a pretty good hit to me. But we'll see. I'll, you know, I'll get through it.   So   I might not   be I might not be able to do a show one day. I don't know. We'll have to see. Yes, ma'am?  



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Essen.   It needs to eat, didn't you?  

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Essen.   Whiskey. Essen.  

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Essen, that's from, Marathon Man.   I He kept telling him to eat the diamonds.   Okay. I It's German for eat. You. You remember you were talking about marathon man. That's just why I said that. S Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Now I'm completely confused. Yeah. But you really did as a curveball,  

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a double curveball there, Murr.   I don't I don't drink whiskey. I don't I don't like drinking alcohol.  

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So, No. No. Essence.  

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No. Somebody yelled out whiskey.  

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Oh, okay.  

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Okay. So Yeah. Clove oil. But yeah. Yeah. I'll go get through it. Roger. Just for a  

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day. Just for a day.  

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It's Joe. Oh, it's Joe. You don't have to drink it. You just rub it on your gums, Rog.  

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Okay.   Anyway, good to hear you, Joe.   I had seen, I saw that what you sent me, the video, the interview with Mike Adams.   I had seen that   the day it happened,   and I noticed that yesterday, they replayed that again in the third hour.   So,   pretty popular interview. That guy's a really interesting guy, CIA guy.  

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Yep. And tell you what, there's a lot of those CIA defectors that are starting to speak out. The other one's Steven d   Steven d.  

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Uh-huh. Yeah. From what Alex said after spending a bunch of time with Ed,   this new super prosecutor, Ed,   whatever his name is,   he said that he's got he's got a line of whistleblower   so long that he's having to stay. People are staying in the office till midnight just to take their information.  

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Not to take this off in a different direction,   but,   since you brought it up,   this is Steven d Kelly.   He was interviewed by Richard Carey on RBN here. It's the August   19.   But, anyway, it's two hour interview, and he   first hour, he links up the connections the genetic   and marital connections,   in the   mafia,   and he contends and makes a good case for the mafia to be   of all   nationalities,  

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bloodlines, and everything else. I'm sure that's true. Smith. Yes. I'm sure that's true. Smith.  

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And,   then he got the next second hour, he goes into   the defeat of Ukraine, and it's a done deal.   And Christianity   is thriving in Russia,   and they're doing everything they can to destroy it in in the rest of the world. Putin's built over 50  

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Putin's built over 50,000 Russian Orthodox churches.  

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Yep. And, look what he did up in Alaska.  

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Oh, yeah.   Oh, yeah. That's right. When he went to the gravesite.   Yes. I remember, you know, I I lived in Alaska, and I remember down on the Kenai Peninsula, South Of Anchorage there, seeing Russian Orthodox churches, old churches as you went by.   So,   yes. They had quite a presence. It's not   overwhelming, but they had a presence there before we purchased that.   Wonderful. That's more probably one of the best deals. Talk about deals. That's probably one of the best deals the country's ever made. I don't remember what Jefferson paid for the Louisiana   purchase,   but,   Alaska was only $7,000,000.  

It's incredible how much wealth is up there.  

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3,000,000   is twice fixed in my mind. I've  

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never   I never did figure out or hear   if I know the the, their planes landed on Elmendorf,   and I didn't know if they had the meeting there on Elm Elmendorf or somewhere downtown.   I would have thought they'd have kept it on Elmendorf because of the   security   of of,   availability that the base   is under. Could be even stricter.  

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But I never heard of it. Else that goes on about the, purchase of Alaska,   it was actually   a subversive way of paying Russia  

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for a war,   yeah, for a war, bill, a bill from a war. Yeah. It was in a kind of a deferred payment or another way to do that. It was wasn't a, hey. I see this. I'm gonna buy it. You know? It was something that well, it fell in their lap, really. And, there's no telling how much mineral wealth is up there. Yes. Was that Samuel again?  

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Yeah. The I think the biggest reason that they wanted Alaska in The US hands is they didn't want   the British who had already   were in Washington and Oregon and British Columbia   to get a hold of it. Could have been. Not to mention that,   there's a a a fort here called Fort Ross. It's on the coast of Sonoma County, which is about halfway down the coastal line of the state.   That was populated by the Russians and as many as it's it's the massive fort.   Big timber built to protect it with cannon and everything.   That had a population of 1,500   people when there was nobody   in San Francisco.  



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Wow. I didn't know they'd be out there in that part.  

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I didn't know that, Sam. Oh, yeah. And then it was part of their winter fur trading thing.   They would get out of the Bering Straits area in Alaska and come down to Fort Ross  

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for and winter there, and then they'd move back and forth to to Russia. And all those seals, they could get all those seals and stuff down there in California too.   Okay. Didn't know that. I know it was called Seward's Folly, and, boy, it has repaid a lot more than 7,000,000   back in to the coffers. However, they got their hands on it. It's a wonderful state. The people used to be, when I was there, very, very friendly. And, it was just a nice place, great memories of my youth. Was that you, Bob, trying to say it? Is it coming back in?  

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No. Hey. Hey, Roger. This is me. Oh, hey. Say  

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I left Thank you.  

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Yeah. This is Wahid. I left yesterday. It's Gregory Matarino's,   commentary in the chat for whoever is interested. He's very interested. Gregory Mannarino.  

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Okay. You wanna give us a thumbnail on what he said?   Bond market upside down? What?  

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The the, the   government's purchase of,   with that company. I can never Intel.  

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Intel. But guess what the next target is?   You got a guess, Swahid? Right. Yeah. Go ahead, Roger. I'm I'm here. I'm waiting. Yes. Lockheed Martin. Roger. Because 90 I'll get you, Julie.   97   or 93%   of their business is government business.   That's what I heard, Ludwig.   I heard Ludwig. You got Intel now, and the next one they're looking at is Lockheed Martin.  

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And the reason government's gonna make purchases of their stock? We have because 97%  

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of their business comes from government contracts.   K?   Yes. Julie.  

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Yeah. Regarding,   that purchase,   my understanding is they purchased it for $0.   If you go look at executive order one three eight one eight and one three eight four eight. One is crimes against humanity that Trump signed when he was in office the first time around that were extended each and every year by Biden. And the other one is for election interference.   So there's a lot of   stuff going around right now that these are asset seizures for 0%  

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based on those two executive orders being violated by various, people. I it seems like I heard Trump prefer the fact that Intel gave him the 10%, but he didn't didn't go into any explanation on it.   So I'm not sure what happened. For people who  

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yeah. For people who don't know about those executive orders, he's not gonna come out and start,   divulging that stuff because,   you know, the level of pedophile failure and the level of that we all know about on here, the majority of   mainstream   people, the sheeple in the world don't know that, and that would potentially   trick trigger some uproar. So, anyway, that's what's floating around on the Internet. So Okay. Let me ask you, Julie, if you knew about all  

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what I guess I'm asking in directly more is is the old saying ignorance is bliss. Is that true?  

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I don't know. You listen to Martin Armstrong, and he says he he admires all the people down in Miami who are driving around with face masks, and he wishes he were one of them and that he he wishes he wouldn't have gone down the rabbit hole as as far as he did.   And, he's made references he's made references   to the fact that, you know, he's ready to get beamed up, meaning go to the next,   dimension of existence   because of the stuff he knows. Well, you know, it's interesting.  

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I think it was a Thomas Jefferson quote is or,   one of those guys.   And, said, as for me, I wanna know the truth and all of it and this and and this, that, and the other and face it in the animated,   contest of freedom, something to that effect. So there's two   two different you can understand both sides, can't you?  

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Yeah. And, I also wanted to switch subjects here on something else that I came across yesterday.   It's relating to the fourteenth   amendment,   and it it's on it's under congressional record, 06/13/1967,   pages   John fifteen six forty one Uh-huh.   To fifteen  

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six forty six. And it says Is that a guy? John Rerick? Is this John Rerick?   I I it's not on it's I didn't find it from him. I just No. It wasn't reading. Is he is this the what he read into the congressional record on the fourteenth amendment is what I'm asking.  

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Oh, I don't know. I I only saw this in I saw it in writing. Okay. Go ahead.   There's other things besides this, but on here that I ran across too about being a secured party creditor. But, basically, it says in this piece of paper I found that a citizen of The United States is a civilly dead entity   operating as a co trustee and co beneficiary   of the public charitable trust.   The constructive   Syskekeby   Trust of the United States Inc under the fourteenth   amendment,   which upholds the debt of The United States Of America and The United States Incorporated.   And it has the source, congressional record, 06/13/1967   with the pages I referenced.  



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Oh, what pages were those again?  

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It says pages   and I haven't verified the source, but this is just what I'm I was gonna do. It's one five six four one to 1 five 646.   And it goes on to say that you're a secured party creditor and holder in due course of your estate.   And so,   the common law trustee over this is the Attorney General of The United States, and you are the legal and equity title holder   of your SEPTA KV estate. And I'm not Estate means estate  

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means less than true ownership in the first place.  

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Can I ask you a question?  

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Hold on.   Is it about this? Why Hebrews about something out in space?  

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No.   The the   just just sir, Julia, please. Can I ask you this? All these job turkeys talking about the Sysco Vk Trust.   Why don't they why are they if they have access to the Sysco Vk Trust, all these other,   common law and sovereign citizens, If they have why do they have to keep asking people for money to go to   their their,   their meeting plate all they're charging 200 $300   $200,000,000,000.   If they have access to the SESKBK   Trust, why don't they let me pay for my pay for the meeting with the SESKBK   trust? These guys that give these seminars?  

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I don't know. I don't pay for those seminars, and I don't have to go to those seminars, so I have no clue who those people are. I I understand, but the the the the joke is  

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why don't they let the people pay for pay for the seminar with the SABK  

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trust money? I wonder why. I don't know about that. I don't know about that.  

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Wahid, I don't know about that. I was just reading an interesting thing about fourteenth and ninth. Understand, but you don't you don't get you don't you don't get the joke. Julia, you don't get the joke. Hey, Wahid.  

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We got we all got what you're trying to get across, Wahid.  

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Wahid, I got two things for you. You know, you won't cash money for the seminar. You won't cash money. Why not let me use my SESTAVK  

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truck? We got it, Wahid. Learn how to get access to it, Wahid.  

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Wahid. Mhmm. Wahid, I got two things for you. I got two points for you. Number one, it's Sesta k v,   not v k,   and her name is Julie,   not Julia.   Her name is Julie. Get the a out of there.  

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I still think,   you know, for moments like these, Paul,   you need to go find a drop in of a bill real bad dog.   And and when when Waheed comes up with this, you just get that dog barking at him there in the background. I think that'd be a great a great drop in. But but, Roger, Roger. Yes, ma'am. Put the or bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Yeah.  

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Spit it out.  

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If these people have act if these people know how to act We got the point. You think I'd be if you   but I'm just saying, Paul. We got the access to millions, tens of millions of dollars  

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yeah. Why would you even tell anybody? I wouldn't even be talking about it. I'd be on a beach. Yeah. There's that dog. See? There's that dog right there. Waheed, you better watch out. That's a pit bull.   That's a pit bull right there, Waheed.  

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I'd be on a beach.  

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Waheed, it's all I got the dog sounds for you, Paul. Thank you. Thank you very much, Julia.   Julie, the Wahib, so you got he'd be calling you, Julia.   Yeah. For the audience, you gotta know what we're talking about. First time Wahib came on, and that was a couple of years ago.   He was telling us his story about how he got attacked by a guy's guy's pit bull outside a donut shop. I remember right. And it's pretty funny, so we like to bring it up occasionally. Anyway, I'm sure Wahid been thinking is funny.   And, but we like to poke him with it a little bit.  

Why he I don't   I don't know anything about this   trust. I've never heard of anybody paying off bills or getting money out of it. And I keep asking. They said in there something about it's behind the fourteenth amendment.   Show me where it's connected with the fourteenth amendment in any effect or way and how it has any effect on us.  

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Mhmm.  

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Okay. Oh, by the way, Roger from Georgia still on?  

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I'm gonna look it up.   Okay. What about go ahead and look the fourteenth amendment up congressional.  

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Oh, what about,   somebody from Georgia?  

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Yeah. The pilot from Georgia. Is he still on? William. William, are you still with us? William.  

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Yeah. I'm here.  

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Yep. William, this is George Idaho.   Hi, Roger. Hi, everybody. Yep. On this topic of the currency or the the money or whatever, you know, the terms they're throwing around, the trust and all that jazz. Oh.   You you you brought up a great point. And if if,   if   if we have receipts on these things,   as nationals, everything should be if we send it to treasury,   you know, it should be just simple. We shouldn't have to set up trust and everything   because   they're   everything's still there. So let them be the you know, we're not the IRS agent. Let them fill out the forms or whatever.   You give them limited power of attorney, send it all your receipts to trade. You say, hey. I'm a national.  

Treat me right with the way the currency. The the the things that you stole, you know, are stolen. And, I don't know if anybody's ever done that. I kinda brought it up before, and I think I was told to get on Telegram and ask that question. But I think why we have these minds here, you know, has anybody even approached that? I know I did when I did my nationality.   Originally, I did a currency protest   because, you know, there was no no it's the law of necessity. There's no way to kinda get around the currency to have a home and things like that. So I don't know. I think it's it's something that we should,   pursue, and it's back   to it's back to, like, what   what is really there is that, you know, is that national treasure still there when they when they did their, you know, their gyrations to to make, you know, based on the carried currency letter   of 1865,   I believe, to make the economy  

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become like this planned economy by you. Okay. Well, George, if if we can find anybody that can come forward and show us proof that they've been successful trying to access that and got something back, then maybe we'll even consider it. But up to then, it's all   in in blue sky to me.   Because I've never seen anybody getting Can you hear me, Roger? I will. Just a second or heard about it. Yes. I heard both of you. Julie and Robbie.   Right?   Yeah. No. Mary. Mary. I'm sorry. Go ahead. You sound like Robbie. Go ahead, Mary.  

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Well, here's the thing. There technically is no money, and they're never gonna give it to you. It's all dead. Not gonna get a black   card. Right. But what I am learning to do, and I just did, so we'll see how it goes this month. I'm taking my bills. Like, you have my Ford credit payment, okay, for my vehicle, my truck.   At the very bottom because this is considered a bond. It's not a coupon. It's a bond. And down on the very bottom is a routing number, which helps to access you do a letter of instruction   on what you want them to do within the treasury department.  

You get some stamps.   You you put in certain USCC codes.  

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Trig pony. K.   Well, Mary's gone. They tried to put his wife in prison. Okay. Well, hold on, Mary. We just we hadn't heard a word you said for the last   twenty   seconds.   You you you you left us at some point in what you're saying, and you just came back.   So we don't Can you hear me now? Okay. I hear you now. Heard you, Mary. My phone.   You heard her talk that whole time? Probably would explain it better.  

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Yeah. I sure did.  

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I think it was you, Roger.  

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Well, I didn't move.  

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No. It was Alright. Network dropped out again.   Just start over,   Mary, please.  

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Okay.   Sure. No problem.   You were bill you get, and it doesn't matter what it is. Right.   The very bottom of each and every bill, and somebody can, you know, pull a copy of one of their bills out, whether it be your ComEd, your phone, your garbage bill, your water bill, even your mortgage.   There's a routing number at the bottom of each bond because that's what this is considered a bond. And then you write the Treasury Department a letter of instruction   using   UCC codes   with a stamp that you get from   Staples, which I ordered mine from Staples.   It's four inches in width and an inch and a half in length in height, and that's extremely important. I don't know what because if you don't do it right, they're just gonna put it in a file box.  

And then the bottom portion of that bill goes to Ford Motor Credit Company. The top part goes to the treasury department. You give them instructions on how   you bonds.   You're   basically taking control over it instead of paying twice   the way they double dip.   That's why they want us to go in all digital.   Have you noticed?   Oh, you'll get you'll get $10 off of your your your garbage bill, which is what they did to me. Now I have to take myself off of that.   $10 off of your bill if you go digital and paperless.   But see, we can't access without this bond   that I'm holding in my hand. We can't access that unless you have the piece of paper. So now I'm gonna pay the extra $10. I'm gonna pay the $10 fee to write them a check. You know, it's just to so I make sure I get a copy of the actual statement because that's your bond. That's the way that people can access it   because they're not gonna give you the money   because they stole it all.  



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This is Mary. Do you trust me to have guys want to. Do you do you are there actual like,  

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instructions? No. I've heard of that. It's a call reverse the bond. You reverse the payment within   the the the bill is the payment, something like that. I've heard people talk about that.  

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Well, you're not paying. Okay. Roger. You're discharging   a debt. You're not paying a bill. Correct. You pay a bill with real money charging debt. And you're free people.   You discharge another debt with Federal Reserve notes on something you're trying to acquire   or something you're paying for. Yeah. It's a bill of interest.   Acceptance for value. Okay. Wait a minute. I've heard that. What are you Listen.  

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You're coming to the rescue of the nation. You're a national. You're you're you want the glory of the nation to be returned. So you return the how we do that is exactly what was just described. I don't know if you have that letter of instruction you just,   talked about.   Who  

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who are who's speaking right there? Yeah. I could, please. For you. Who's speaking right there?  

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Go ahead. Roger. Oh, it was George. Sending the glory of the nation by reducing the debt of the tribe of God's treasury on earth. Okay. Roger, this is Joseph.  

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Hey, Joseph. You're back. Okay.   Have you been there the whole time or you just joined us?  

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No. I've I've been listening online for most of the morning, but I didn't catch the the very beginning. I I've just been sitting with my coffee. Alright. No problem.  

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Okay. Well, I've never heard of anybody being successful at this, George or Mary or anybody else. I think I've heard of it in the past.   Let us know if you're successful at it.  

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That's what I'm saying. Yeah.  

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I will. Because I mean, I'm like, It's you can get most of the,   like, most of the codes you can get off of the Cornell   law website.   You know, for because you have to put the codes in there. You don't, like you you stamp the codes on. You can even order a stamp for ComEd, for Ford Motor, for Verizon phone bill.   Basically, what they want it's like balancing the books is what we're doing so we can drop that debt ceiling that we're in.   That's it's kinda like balancing your checkbook,   but you're   giving them instructions on how you want your bonds handled. Oh, okay. This is what I and you don't ask them just like you said with the affidavit thing. You're not asking them anything. You're telling them what you want them to do. Okay. Well, if you're do it. Well, okay. I haven't never heard of anybody instructions. Well, I got a feel if this was successful, it'd go through the country like shit through a goose. Okay? So let us know if you're sick through the country right now. I will. Okay. Thank you. But I'll take an email for anyone, and I can put down   keep Yeah. Let me let me have your email, and I'll give you mine.  



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[email protected].  

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No. Slow down, Yeb. Again?   You gotta do this slow when you're doing an overview.  

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[email protected].  

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Mary, I hope you got that.  

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Okay. W, n as in nance w as in Wilbur, n as in Nancy, eight zero one m as in Mary. Five, m as in Mary. As in Mary. M as in Mary. W m.   Okay. W,masinMary,[email protected].  

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Yeah. Everybody said Waheed and email. Okay.  

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Jack, Mary. I'll send him the copy of the letter. Mary, were you gonna give us your email?   I'll give you mine. Are you ready? Okay.   Hold on.  

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The show has devolved into an exchange, an email exchange. This is Yes. Yes. Welcome to the Radio Ranch Penn Hotel, Al Roger. And at the next booth is the dancing   bamboo girls from China.   Hold on, Larry. Let's  

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we've got we're Alright, Mary. I'm ready.   Okay. It's [email protected].   My first and last name, Mary Orszewski.   Pretty simple.  

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A Polish gal.  

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Only my marriage.  

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You're welcome. Because  

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they're doing it all over the place. It's it's long. I took an eleven hour class on this,   and I'm super stoked.   I have a question for Roger.   Yes, ma'am. Roger, would you like to know what 31 CFR   363.6   states?   It's a definition of a minor.   31 is the securities.   Hold on just a minute. I will pull it up. Are you talking about someone 18  

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or someone that does their work with a pick and a shovel?  

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Well, Roger, you tell me what you think of this definition.   Okay. I gotta enlarge it for my my old eyes. I can relate to that. An individual under the age of 18 years. Yeah. Okay. Well, there that's there's the answer.   Okay. Hold on. I said new sentence.   The term minor is also used   to refer   to an individual who has attained   the age of 18 years but has not yet taken control   of the securities   contained in his or her minor accounts.  

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Wow. And I yield what do you think, Roger? I don't have any idea about that.  

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Roger, that would be the trust   account. I know that factually.  

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Okay. Well, I I just like I said, somebody bring me some proof of somebody that used this, and it worked.  

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Has anybody  

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alright. Hold on. Hold on. As in you've got a pretty good audience here. Is there anybody in the audience who's ever gone through this process   and had a positive result?  

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Some people have. Yes.  

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I've   are you a ventriloquist? Are you Roger.  

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Are you a ventriloquist now? Your once you once you get a hold of this, that's the KB trust, you're not allowed to teach it to other people,   which there are workarounds and your life is threatened in any court cases that ever came about from these have been sealed. Okay. They can't find out about them because they don't want people knowing how you access   your bonds. And notice how,   Sherry said securities   with the plural s. You have multiple bonds. And what Mary's doing is she's discharging   a debt,   discharging debt either using   taking those bonds into   bills of exchange or acceptance for value, but she's correct. You have to have specific wording on there exact or they don't take it.  



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Okay. Roger,  

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I just do have a question   Okay.   Regarding what I read to you. Have you ever heard of anybody over the age 18 being called a minor?  

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No.   Unless they were using a Okay. Now that   yes. They were using a pick and a shovel.  

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Oh, that's e r. Okay. That just dawned on me.   Anyway, I I and it has to do with securities.   And  

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so there's something to that if they have that definition. Well, there may be. Y'all go that that may be. Somebody go somebody go out and do it and come back and tell us and show us it's been done. That's all I'm asking. I've never seen anybody   that went through it positively.   Julie, this is like a ventriloquist,   says some people have, but she she hasn't.   Somebody come back that's gone through it personally. Okay? Let's see. Okay, Roger. In the meantime, we're mining for the information.   We're miners here. Well, I I Well, I'm not. You guys go ahead. If you wanna try Roger. Yeah. Bills made and whatever, go ahead.   It's extremely   complex, it sounds like to me. Okay, Larry. Your turn. Third time's a try. Third time's a try.  



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Yeah. I'd like to get back to what something William said earlier. He didn't believe 6013.   He he believed that that only pertained to married couples, and I disagree with that. Your teachers,   they believed in the revocation of election,   and they have all been in that one section   of the code,   sixty thirteen.   And,   I I got something here to read to you as soon as we get off the air. Oh my god. Okay.  

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Well, we are gonna get off the air here, I guess, thankfully,   as the way this show's gone at the end, here in a minute. And we will the good news is we will, as is today, Thursday, we will be back tomorrow with Brent Winters,   and, we'll look forward to that. If you're new, like, Joseph here and maybe haven't heard Brent yet,   it's,   he the guy's a national treasure. Okay? I Don't know if I've ever met anybody like him. I'm   very honored to do those shows. We'll do another one tomorrow unless   something happens twigs now and then, which   we do not anticipate or Paul gets more   DNI or DNS   attacks or whatever is going on with the technical side of this,   we might overcome it.  

We will be back tomorrow, and, Joseph, stick around. We're gonna get to you in a second.   So, anyway, I   would just let the boys sing us out here. Lay your body down, and that's Mhmm. Eventually what we'll all do.  

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Yeah.   In about fifteen more seconds, yeah, the show will be over. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern.   And don't forget Paul English lives this afternoon.   Oh, and by the way, that will be at 3PM.   And, Wahid,   this one's for you.  

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Nerd.   Go in the donut shop. Get back in that donut shop. Okay.   I don't know if Waheed finds that funny or not.   Okay.   Now, Larry, will you wanna go off on disagreeing   with something William said on the revocation of this issue? Your teachers. Just got a new student. Teachers. My new student, Joseph, is on here. Just showed up at the end of the show and built all that melee. But what are you trying to get across here, please? Trying to get across here. Larry, you've gotta change Larry. You gotta change your phone somehow because you are echoing back everything that people say to you. Everything that people say to you. Is  

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that better?   I don't know.   Is that better? Know. Well, kinda.  

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Yeah. It appears.  

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No. No. You're still echoing back. This is it's still echoing back.  

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I mean, I turned my engine off.  

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I had to pull it away. No. That's not gonna have anything to do with it. You're either gonna have to cycle your mute or you're gonna have to turn off your Bluetooth or whatever the hell it is you're doing right now. The hell it is you're doing right now. Wait. We're  

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How about that? Is that better? I don't know.  

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Yeah. It seems to be. Nope. No? It seems to be. Nope. No. It's not. No.   No. It's not. Larry, just just say your piece, please.   Say your piece,   please. Well, I  

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if you guys can hear me, I'll I will read it. Well, it's Okay. You go ahead and read it, and I'll mute you when you're done reading.  

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Mute you when you're done reading. Okay. There are other people other people I'm muted. I'm muted. Somebody, whoever It's coming from a mute open. Please check if you got a mute open. Please check if you got a mute open.   Hang on, Joseph. We'll get to you. Hang on, Joseph. We'll get to you. So  

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this this comes from Wise Paris, and I happen to agree with it. And I think this is in line   with what your teachers   taught, Roger.   So the questions asked, in looking at 26 United States code sixty thirteen,   that section pertains to joint returns by married couples.   Is it clear that   parentheses g relates to the election of the federal income tax as a whole, or does it relate to the election of whether to file jointly or separately? Here's their answer.   The way statutes are written and the logic behind them is oftentimes somewhat   obscured,   the first thing you need to ask yourself is have you ever heard of a tax law that only applies to married parties and not to a single person?  

Right off the bat, it is easy to see that it sounds like an illogical approach to let everyone that is married revoke their election and force the single people to participate in the election.   Let's look at the implementing regulation that discusses discusses   how one can make the election in the first place.   Do they have to be married?   Do they have to be single? Or does it even matter? Here's the part of 26   CFR paragraph 1.871   dash one parenthesis a that pertains to nonresident aliens.   Quote, nonresident alien individuals are taxable   only on certain income   from sources within The United States   and on the income described in section eight sixty four, parenthesis c, parenthesis   four,   from sources   without The United States, which is effectively connected   for the taxable year with the conduct of a trade or business in The United States.  

It goes on to say, however,   nonresident alien individuals   may elect   under section sixty thirteen g   or h to be treated as US residents for purposes   of determining their income tax liability   under chapters one, five, and 24 of the code. So the answer that Lyceparis   explains goes on to say this,   look at the last sentence above. Do you see any reflection as to a designation   of a nonresident   alien individual   having status of being married before   they may elect under section sixty thirteen g or h. It is not there. Uh-huh. The regulation does not show any requirement   that marriage is a prerequisite to making an election to be treated or taxed as US residents   for purposes of determining their income tax liability.  

Okay. And then it goes on to say, now look at the header of 26  

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Please. Let's not have it go on to say let's not go on to have it say anymore.   Please, what's your point of doing this, Larry? Larry, please?   You you disagree with William? You just gonna expect us to get into a discussion on all this gobbledygook you just read us? Is that what you're trying to, do here?   Larry?  

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Yeah. He's muted again.  

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Well, we don't do ROEs anymore.   Mark can't do them. He's jumbled up. We've been doing a little success   on getting money back for people, and we don't even pursue it anymore.   Okay?   So I don't care what Wise Paris says about it. And I don't really care about any of that. Honestly, it doesn't pertain to what we do around the show anymore.   So what was your point in bringing that forward,   please?  

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Larry?  

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Come on, Larry.  

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Do you understand why I hate that shit?   Okay.  

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Oh, now he's now he's muted, and I can't unmute him. Can you hear me now? There. Yes. Alright. Yes. Yeah. Paul Paul's muting me. So,  

[02:06:13] Unknown:

Because you're echoing back everything we're saying echoing back everything we're saying.  

[02:06:18] Unknown:

Oh   my   god.   Roger, what was your question?   I asked you what your point of all that was. Point of all that was.   Well, I mean, your teachers believed in the revocation. I don't care about that. Well, you're about that. Yeah. They did. They started a business. They did. They ended up   in in serving fifteen years in prison, not because of that, but because of that indirectly.   Of that. And we don't teach it around here. We don't teach it. We don't mention it. The person that was doing it marked   can't do it anymore. We've had very little success   on accessing ten forty six we're already filed, and we just don't even do anything with it anymore. So, again, I would ask you, what is your point in bringing us up and subjecting us to wise Paris who didn't even understand what we do around here?  



[02:07:13] Unknown:

Larry?  

[02:07:14] Unknown:

Okay. Sorry. Paul I I guess Paul's he keeps muting my my line. So No. Sorry. I mean, now Okay. Larry, here here. I'm gonna go one better. I'm gonna remove you. I'm gonna force you to call back in because you're creating an echo back whenever you're unmuted   and anyone else says something. I'm listening to myself. And I just went away. So I'm removing you. You call  

[02:07:36] Unknown:

back. It just went away, old baby, when you removed it. That's because somebody muted him.   And and,  

[02:07:43] Unknown:

When he gets muted, the echo stops. That's where he needs to speak and mute himself,   and he's not. Okay.  

[02:07:51] Unknown:

Anyway, I don't wanna discuss all that. I don't know why he insists on bringing that up. It has nothing to do with what we do around here on a regular basis   anymore. We tried it for a while. We had a little success in certain circumstances.   Situations have changed. Mark is oh, he's he's so damn busy and with both of his parents and the problems they got. He couldn't even join us yesterday, period.   Okay? So we're not doing it anymore. Okay. Great, Larry. We're not doing it anymore. Why are you bringing this up? That's what I'm asking you. Are you taking how many minutes?   Ten minutes or or or or so on this that doesn't pertain to anything we do. So why are you doing that?  



[02:08:37] Unknown:

Well, five minutes was spent on trying to figure out why there's an echo. So Okay.   Okay.   The point of my bringing this up was because William   said that   he does not agree that that section of the code has anything to do with nonresident alien individuals   revoking their election.   It has to do with married couples, and so I'm rebutting  

[02:09:02] Unknown:

that argument. Alright. Well, William, consider that rebutted. Okay? With that coat.   Can can we close it now? We're he's gonna get a result from the state. We're gonna get to see how they feel, and he's gonna get to discuss it with them. So can we wait till he goes through that?  

[02:09:19] Unknown:

Hey, Roger.  

[02:09:21] Unknown:

Yes. Swahili.   I swear I'm leaving.  

[02:09:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Is Julie is Julie is is Julie still there?  

[02:09:29] Unknown:

I'm sure she is. Julie, are you?  

[02:09:32] Unknown:

I'm here. Wahoo.   Yeah.  

[02:09:35] Unknown:

Could you look in the chat? I left Gregory Manarino   and looked into what he has to say about that from yesterday   that,   the government purchase of that. But I wanna get, Julie's I wanna get Julie's take on it.  

[02:09:50] Unknown:

Yeah. Did you hear what I had to say about the executive order one three eight four eight and 13818   that they bought it for zero?   They seized the assets, Wahid, for violations   of executive order one three eight four eight and 13818.  

[02:10:08] Unknown:

Okay. Great.   Listen. I got a new brand new student on here that I've just got to say good morning to about fifteen minutes ago, and I haven't had   any conversations.   Joseph. Can we go and put our attention on him, please?   Is that okay?   Okay. Good morning. Joseph, are you there?  

[02:10:30] Unknown:

Yeah. Good morning, everybody. Thank you. Good morning. Sorry to  

[02:10:34] Unknown:

I don't know if any of that   pertained to you. I don't think it did. I'm much more interested in seeing if we can get your questions answered   and let you decide whether you wanna be free of Jewish slavery or not.  

[02:10:50] Unknown:

Well, I'm curious   why you've chosen the title   of citizenship evidence.  

[02:10:56] Unknown:

Because that's how they refer to affidavits   internally at the state department.  

[02:11:02] Unknown:

I see. Okay.  

[02:11:04] Unknown:

Is that good?  

[02:11:06] Unknown:

Yeah. That's a quick and easy answer. I like that. Alright. Really happened too much since I what I've heard from what I've heard from these calls.   So my of course, the other question is,   well, I I actually am interested in what everybody's talking about, and I'm I've taken a look at a couple different angles myself and looking at, treasury direct accounts and having some securities.   Anyway, I have not done it myself, so I don't have evidence, so I'm not gonna bring it. There's no reason to talk about it.   I am interested in finding out some different ways that people have had some success, and I have also heard that some people who have gotten through   have   had some sort of an NDA or something. They're not allowed to talk about it.  



[02:11:51] Unknown:

Could be. Don't know. Yeah. Spreading. And I think that's what Well one of the women said here. I forgot her name. Well, I don't know. This is the way I look at it. My I'm a one trick pony, and my one trick is to help you get free if you wanna be. All that other stuff that you would do after that is totally up to you. I don't know about it. I don't care about it. I don't instruct people on it. I really don't believe a lot of it, but we'll see. My job is to see if I can help you get free should you wanna be that way. K? So that's the way I look at it.  

[02:12:26] Unknown:

Clean hands doctrine.   Okay. Yes. 100.   And I'm I'm in on doing it, and it's just really listening to   the last little bit from everybody.   And then   I'll, you know, I'll I'll write this up and get it out early as next week. Okay. Well, we didn't need next part that I'm still interested in in speaking to somebody on is about the Pacer account   and finding out if I'm if the the one question   is really as clean in the closet as I think it is, and then moving forward with the d s 82.  

[02:13:02] Unknown:

Okay. A PACER account is what   exactly?   I know I've heard the word, but I don't remember what it is.  

[02:13:12] Unknown:

Well, I'm not too familiar with it, actually. I've I've looked at it, but I have not made an account. PACER account is to look at, I believe it's just federal   Okay. Across  

[02:13:24] Unknown:

the yep. It's me, Julie. I'm the one that brought up the PACER account on the after show yesterday. So, Roger,   before   Joseph applies for a passport, he just has some mate. He might have some skeletons in his closet, and he wants to see if he can be aware of Oh, okay. That's  

[02:13:44] Unknown:

Okay. PS82  

[02:13:46] Unknown:

well, just get your   It's a account at paypal.com.   And I think it's state as well. You can look up the case's state as well as federal, but I'm not a 100% sure because I haven't been on mine in a long time. Okay. Joseph, I would think if you had any of those types of skeletons, you'd know it.  

[02:14:04] Unknown:

Some kind of a a charge hanging over   you, like, the example that brought all this to bear was a drunk driving incident   out in San Jose.   And, it's the only time it's happened.   K? But it's that kind of effect 96% sure that I'm I'm good.   Okay. Well, that's why I'm trying to just say this. You may not have to do that, but you should know if you've got any of those in your past. Yes, Paul.  

[02:14:31] Unknown:

I'll give you bullet points.   Give you bullet points.   If you owe more than $50,000   to the IRS and it's in collections,   don't bother trying to get a passport.   If you owe more than $2,500   in back child support,   Don't bother trying to get a passport.   If you have any outstanding warrants that would,   be a problem,   that   may   cause you to wanna be a flight risk,   don't bother applying for a a passport because it won't give you one. Well, he said yesterday, he's been international  

[02:15:08] Unknown:

traveling and stuff. So I'm I'm just saying, I don't think you'll have any of those, but that's what that's for, Joseph.   You sound like a pretty clean living guy to me.  

[02:15:19] Unknown:

It all has to do with whether you're whether or not you're a flight expert.  

[02:15:25] Unknown:

And if he's been traveling in on that I'll play Sherry, please.  

[02:15:29] Unknown:

Passport.   Roger?  

[02:15:32] Unknown:

Y'all just take the conversation over. Sure. Go ahead.  

[02:15:37] Unknown:

Question for you, Roger. There there was someone that came in recently and talked about the passport,   and we advised them to do the affidavit first.   They said that they had a felony,  

[02:15:51] Unknown:

and I don't know what they did to clear it up, but that was the only issue that they wouldn't have, given them a passport for. Okay. Well, what would happen is you would at least ask for an administrative appeal because, technically, you're applying as a different legal person, aren't you?   That felony was to your other slave personality.   Now you file the affidavit. You're out of that. So if that part of your sentence was that you couldn't have firearms, now you file this affidavit. You should be able to have them, shouldn't you?  

[02:16:25] Unknown:

Right. So other than that, other than the felony, it would be they should be able to get a passport. Right?  

[02:16:33] Unknown:

I would If there was a Well, it's certainly an arguable point if they rejected it. Let's say that. Okay?   What's the next step in my administrative appeal?  

[02:16:44] Unknown:

Raj?  

[02:16:45] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:16:46] Unknown:

If you have a felony,   they will arrest you at the border if you try and go to Canada.   So if you have a felony on your record,   that may be prohibitive  

[02:16:57] Unknown:

about getting Well, it may or may not be. I don't know. I I think it's a totally it's an arguable point that you would be a new legal person.   You're receiving your rights and duties from under someone else than you were before when that happened. You're technically a new legal personality.   It's a new status to you. So I don't I'd say it's arguable.  

[02:17:20] Unknown:

I agree. Okay. So if it wasn't a felony   and,   some other things that were taken care of already,  

[02:17:27] Unknown:

it they should be able to. I mean, like running a stop sign or something, I don't think that would apply. Okay?   So this is egregious.   I mean, Joseph, I guess if I have to, I can go into the whole story and give you the whole situation on what happened out there in San Jose. There's one incident in fifteen years that's ever caused this. Okay? But I'd rather not.  

[02:17:52] Unknown:

I'd rather address some of your other We're we're clear. Okay. Hey hey, Roger. Every straining or I order I had five, six years ago,   I've sent my affidavit to everybody except the IRS.   So I can go get another guard card I mean, not a guard card, but a gun permit in California now that I've sent that to the,   the AG   and everybody. The the,   I'm clear to go to the gun store.  

[02:18:21] Unknown:

Waeheeb, I don't know.   That's totally off. I'm talking to a new student, Joseph. I'm a tell you to go ahead and try and get it. And if they say no, then   tell them you wanna pursue it.   But I'm this is on a totally different matter here, Waheed. I'm talking to the new student, and you come in with that.   I'm Waheed, I love you, man. I mean, I have to. But Lord have mercy. You I'm in. You tax me. Yes, Joe.  

[02:18:51] Unknown:

I'm afraid of Wahid going to the gun store too.  

[02:18:58] Unknown:

Well, I think he wears a gun there on his hip. Don't you, Wahid?   Are you armed at the bank?  

[02:19:07] Unknown:

Are you just window dressing? No. No. No. No. I'm not. The restraining order   from five years ago was it was it was up five years ago. It was,   it ran out five years ago,   but I'm wondering if I can renew the gun permit  

[02:19:24] Unknown:

now that I sent the AG my affidavit Well, I don't know. And I put everybody on notice. Those kind of situations, we don't know till you go press the envelope. So you go try and do it and let us know.   K?   Alright.   Now let me get back to Joseph if I could.   Joseph, what, what else, did you go watch any interview videos or anything, or did Julie and those guys beat you up so bad yesterday afternoon you were sick of it?  

[02:19:55] Unknown:

No. Not even close. I've been doing this for too long for all that.   I have watched three videos now. I watched Okay. Last night, the one with you and, b Wells.  

[02:20:05] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. I like that approach on that. Boy, he picked up on it quick.  

[02:20:14] Unknown:

Almost as if it was scripted.  

[02:20:16] Unknown:

Yes.   And he works under Sinclair Broadcasting, and they told him not to have that guy on again. And they had to try and sneak me on.  

[02:20:27] Unknown:

Really?  

[02:20:27] Unknown:

Yes. And we just saw some of this stuff on the election   is getting released,   that Bill Barr   had a luncheon meeting over the whole Russiagate, everything,   at Sinclair   Broadcasting.   So they're right in   the grasp.   But any of these big media outlets will be. So   what I'm interested in is the other things that weren't clear to you or,   that we could help you with or any questions that developed. Did you watch Gene Schroeder too?   No. It's up on my tab. I haven't watched it yet. It's really powerful stuff, man. You'll you'll be if you've been in this movement for a while, you trump card. Right? Yeah. Well, that's the interview over there is very good, God's trump card. But the Gene Schroeder information,   that was, like, thirty thirty years ago that was released.  

And people like yourself and the newer people that have been in the patriot movement, look other,   look look listen to other voices have never heard of it before. And, boy, it's really   foundational.   You'll hear them in there when they get to the bankruptcy   on March 9,   and they'll come back and say, and it was after that, the Department of Agriculture   required farmers certain farmers or wholesalers   to have licenses.   So there's the change in the systems.   License is permission to do something which is otherwise illegal. Before March 9, it wasn't illegal. It was free enterprise.   After March 9, they threw us in the system, and that's probably the first indication.  

That   and that the   currency when the banks reopened   were under the secretary of the treasury, and they were the new notes and were under regulations.   Well, that's the first regulations that were ever there too.   And there was no secretary of the treasury before the bankruptcy.   There was a treasurer of The United States Of America, but not a secretary of the treasury.   He's in there as the governor of the fund.   And it says that right in   somewhere in title 28. It's just a one sentence section.   Says,   the secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund.   That's the International Monetary Fund. He's there in bankruptcy as an overseer.  

K?  

[02:23:00] Unknown:

Okay.   You know,   I think one of my   I kinda wanted to drill down on this   declaration   of certificate.   My curiosity, are you guys using specific or special kind of stamps?  

[02:23:18] Unknown:

Do you do any of that kind of stuff? No. Because none of that matters. There's only one one thing that matters.   You rebut the presumption you're under. Doesn't matter how you say it. Doesn't matter what you do it.   The words really don't matter as long as they cumulative   rebut the presumption.   That's all you have to do. That's why Murr came on with that one sentence yesterday.   I, Joseph, from Arizona,   do solemnly swear however she ordered it. My intent to be a national   and not a citizen of The United States.   As simple as that is, it rebuts the presumption. Affirmed   affirmed by God. Okay. There you go. There it is. Okay. So you got that, Joseph? It's not what you say I do. I appreciate that. Yeah. That what you say rebuts the presumption.  

That's what's  

[02:24:11] Unknown:

important. Yeah.   Whoever just spoke, I actually really like your approach to a lot of these things, and I'm curious if you're on the Telegram group. And and   I really like Telegram because it's it's simple to be able to pass information   faster than through an email.   It's instant. So Yes.  

[02:24:31] Unknown:

I am on I am on the Telegram group. Okay. Well, thank you. Are you talking to me? Yes. He's talking to you, Murr. Well, let me tell you. Murr Murr is like chicken man. Do you remember chicken man, Joseph?   I'm sure you don't. I don't think I'm old enough. An old radio gig. He's everywhere. He's everywhere. Murr's everywhere. Okay? She's over on RBN. She's got her own show. She's over here. She is the head of the pronunciation   police.   She's everywhere. Okay?  

[02:25:01] Unknown:

So Murr, meet  

[02:25:03] Unknown:

meet Josh. Usage.  

[02:25:06] Unknown:

Hey. It I'm not on any social media, including Telegram. I only do, you know, chat rooms and, free conference call and,   email.   I know it's not as fast, but, I've I've just   decided not to join any social media, so I haven't I don't need I don't either.  

[02:25:25] Unknown:

I've never been on a social media thing.  

[02:25:29] Unknown:

Numeral2radioranch.chatango,   chat and go, chatango,.com.  

[02:25:39] Unknown:

You will find her there. That's where she hangs out of here, Joseph.  

[02:25:45] Unknown:

During during this show in particular well, when I come in from lurking on Pod Home. Yeah.   Yeah. So,   but, yeah, we're in there having discussions, and, a lot of the links that are in the FCC chat,   which will go away, are linked   in the, numeral2radioranch.ct.com.  

[02:26:03] Unknown:

You still have your program on the You still have your RBN show? Yes, sir. You would tell him about that. He can be a dedicated listener. You get to hear for a whole hour with about ten minutes of spot breaks.  

[02:26:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, it's two hours, so that's,   eleven minutes per hour spot breaks, I think. But   but, yeah, they narrowed it down to, top and bottom rather than four. I I don't understand that. Four breaks, that just is criminal.   Yes. Yeah. So it's two to four, central time on Sunday. If you go   on the main page of republicbroadcasting.org   and go to the host schedule page, you can scroll down to yours, Truly Myrrh, and   click on there. And there's an email there, an easy one, and there's a link to the archives. So, I mean, I know a lot of people are busy, and they don't have time. And besides that, I don't care if you listen, but the links I put in the archive description   are usually   more, you know, most beneficial, I would say.  



[02:27:05] Unknown:

Yes. MERS is pretty dollars. So would anybody who's on  

[02:27:09] Unknown:

who's steamed me over on the National Status Freedom, would you please send me some links to Murr and and to maybe to some other things that you guys think might be pertinent to help me,   kinda get a get a a feel for everybody and and what we got going on here.  

[02:27:24] Unknown:

I'm gonna go ahead and put my connection to RBN in the  

[02:27:29] Unknown:

numeral two Radio Ranch Tatango. So We got a big Sportage board going on here, Joseph. Tomorrow,   Brent Winters, our attorney friend, is with us. I very   usually, they get off in a spiritual direction. Sometimes we stay legal stuff. Brent is an amazing guy, has done amazing amount of work in his life, and has, just knowledge of some of this historical stuff   that stuns me at times, really.   Quite a guy. So we have him on on Fridays,   and then we'll be back on Saturday.   And it's a little different show because it's Saturday, but   most of the same list of characters are here. It was originally started for new people that work during the week during COVID.  

So and we've hung on to it because it's,   well, people enjoy it. I enjoy it. We have some real good shows that come out of the Saturday slot.   Seems like there's a little more elbow room there.   Well, we wanna help you,   certainly as much as we can, Joseph. We welcome you to the family here, of course.   But, what I'm I'd I'd like to have if there's anything   certain in the process or the background because there's a whole lot of stuff we hadn't conversed on yet.   Okay?   Like, how you take care of the back end of this. I think I mentioned it yesterday a little bit, but we got a front end and a back end. The front end is your federal stuff. The back end is letting your state key people know the federal stuff's been done. And putting everybody on notice   because notice is the first part of a very crucial concept called due process,   notice and the right to be heard. So we put everybody on notice.  

And if they don't understand what they're we're talking about, then they, as an elected official that sought out those positions,   have a duty to know or should have known. So if they don't know about it, they've got a duty to go research it. And if they don't, they can suffer some consequences.   So that's kind of the back end,   and,   it's has been put together over many years   and shaped by people's experiences.   Like this guy in California, the drunk driving guy,   Kaye,   one of our old students and her husband up in, Connecticut   trying to get people in the state informed. And the secretary of state, she kept sending this to them, and they go, oh, do you have an account with us? Are you trying to open an account? Do you owe us money?  

The secretary of state position in the state   is mainly,   in in involved in   helping establish businesses and stuff, it appears.   So okay. We found that out.   We we found that out. We'll go to the next,   situation. Who's the head lawmaker in the state? Will that be the attorney general? So that's how we stumbled on that. Oh, and then we need to copy the sheriff, chief of police,   guy that docked his case as prosecutor.   Yes, Bruce?  

[02:30:38] Unknown:

I'm on the subject too with what you're talking about.   We sent sheriff   a a letter,   every all the information   about being a national.   Everybody's accepted it, accepted the,   sheriff.   So I handed it to Janet is, one that   I haven't got it back mine back yet,   but the end of the envelope was opened.   So I'm going down I'm fixing to go down to this to the, post office   and ask to to,   whoever opened that, letter.   If it if it wasn't assigned to them, I want them to be arrested right now   because they interfered with our process.  

[02:31:23] Unknown:

Okay. Well, let us know how it turns out. Did you hear, did you hear Sean   back to the mailbox.   Go ahead.   Did you happen to hear your South Carolinian Sean on here the other day about his experience in this ongoing thing he's had?  

[02:31:39] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.  

[02:31:41] Unknown:

Yep. So you heard that. Okay. Well, let us know how it turns out. Okay?  

[02:31:47] Unknown:

I'm I'm gonna   try to arrest the sheriff or somebody else. So the secretary or somebody, it puts the letter back in there. Are are you sir. Are you back in South Carolina now?   No. I'm in I'm in I'm in Missouri.  

[02:32:00] Unknown:

Okay.   Yeah. Alright. Well, let us know how it turns out. Okay?   Okay. I will. Thank you. Okay. Back to, Joseph here.   You didn't hear that the other day. It's another guy in South Carolina. Him and his wife had been having continuing problems with the police. They were driving.   I don't remember if he had a replace tag or whatever. He used his passport.   They grabbed it one time. He got it back.   He was having all these he had   had   to go in reverse and get into some sort of a high speed chase to get away from him and a bunch of that kind of stuff   over a number of years.  

Excuse me.   And he was about to do having get involved with the court stuff. And he said, well, I'm just gonna call the sheriff.   And he called the sheriff, said, look. I'm not a sovereign citizen or anything.   Can can my wife and I come in here and explain this to you? And the sheriff said, yes.   And he came in and explained it to him, and the sheriff dropped all the charges.   K? So we don't know   how if it'll go further than that, but I see I think we're getting to a time   where even the average person in that kind of capacity sees so many things that are inconsistent   and contradictory   that maybe they're opening their mind to something like this a little bit more. It's what my feeling is. We'll see.  

But, Joseph,   you.  

[02:33:36] Unknown:

What else could we just be I wanna I wanna just say that Merck has been very helpful,   and Efren was the name of the man who brought me over. Oh, Efren. Say thank you to both of them. Thank you, Efren.   And   and so for these notices, you you spoke about the attorney general. And, my curiosity is, are you also   working with the county recorder? I would imagine you are. Well also. And, is that notice different?  

[02:34:05] Unknown:

Well, you could be. You could file your, affidavit in the property records office. You might have trouble. You might not. It depends county to county.   We don't. That's the way this started   because my teachers didn't realize the secretary of state was the head guy. You can do all that stuff locally, but it doesn't really have an effect other than to just give an additional notice. But how many people in your county go check the property records office?   K? Now should they give you a problem on doing that as some counties will   because of a guy named Tim Turner?  

And, you you you just I would ask him, will you allow the IRS to file notices of liens here, don't you?   Well, see, that's a property document too. Did you know that? Did you realize that?  

[02:34:58] Unknown:

Have you ever seen one of those notices of liens? I have looked into the live records, and we as as soon as we   have our birth certificate made, then it goes into the live records, and then they they sell it to a whole mess of,   well, you all you know all of this stuff. I'm sure I'm sure you guys know all this stuff. I know I I know with a little bit more specificity  

[02:35:19] Unknown:

than you do, and let me tell you this story, part of your education here.   And it's proven one of our old students, Brian Howard, he's been on a few times with us recently,   Pressed the envelope on a couple of very important things. He got real hung up on the birth certificate.   And so he had two daughters. They're both born in Austin, Texas.   He was a former   University of Texas defensive back four year scholarship football player. He's fearless. Okay?   And I've I've heard you tell this story a couple of times. Okay. Well, then you well, I won't retell it if you heard it. I mean, see, all this does is buttress that you're in the feudal system.   The parents don't sign the thing. Why not? Because they're citizens of The United States.  

They they they send the information from a terminal put in every burden, every hospital, I guess, in the country, and they send it to vital statistics, prints a birth certificate. And here's the key. The when it's printed, they put it in an arm unarmed say a safe BankSafe with armed guards twenty four hours a day, seven days a week because it has value.   K?   Now that we think is acting as a warehouse receipt. It at minimum, it's perfectly what they would do with it.   They don't necessarily   we don't know the process   after this, but they take it and attach it to the bond sales   as collateral for the bonds,   whichever.  

And your income tax goes to pay those coupons on those bond things. So that is the things we I don't know what they're how they're using it. Your Social Security number, what companies,   how on Wall Street, whatever. I don't think you're ever gonna get any money back from that.   I guess if somebody just really has a dying   dying desire to understand how that works, they can dive into it and see what they can find out. All I care is interested in getting you out of that system the simplest,   easiest way   possible if you want to. If you wanna go pursue all that other stuff afterwards,   fine with me. K?  



[02:37:30] Unknown:

So that's where I am on this. Well, I will, and I'm I'm super clear on everything, and I just wanna say the front end and the back end   is very clear. It's gonna happen by this time next week. It'll be done. Okay. It'll be sent off.   I I guess what do I wanna know? I wanna know,   are we waiting on anything   from, like, a proof of  

[02:37:50] Unknown:

Well, no.   No.   A a lot of people think they are.  

[02:37:55] Unknown:

Meaning, before before I go and and fill out for the DS 82, which I know has to be done in front of somebody, I have to sign No. No. No. No. It doesn't. Somebody for approval? No. No. The DS 82 does not have to be signed in front of an administrating official. You can do all that yourself and mail it to you. Sure you said that on on an interview somewhere. Maybe you corrected that. Yeah.  

[02:38:16] Unknown:

That's all. You're not waiting on anything.   Here's here's that that Roger, could you say that again? You're not you don't have to you don't have to wait on anything. I don't think you're   gonna wait on anything to do the rest of this process out. You can do all those at the same time. You can, I'm sure.   But here's the thing with our people. They wanna wait till they get the green card back on certified mail,   and you don't have to do that. K?  

[02:38:44] Unknown:

Effectively, in our system just do it digitally.  

[02:38:47] Unknown:

Well, the in our system, if you take it to the post office and they stamp it somehow,   not you drop it in the the mailbox out front, but you gotta stamp the return receipt or certified or whatever. When they stamp it, it's it's considered received.   Just like the IRS does that. Correct. Okay?  

[02:39:10] Unknown:

Yeah. And then and then   the number can be looked up online and and you can see Yeah. Where they progress. Who received it and what time they received it. Right. I understand that. Okay. So I don't have to sign something for the DSA too in person. That's good. Well, you'll no. I'm not in person. No. You'd sign it and mail it yourself.  

[02:39:28] Unknown:

There's instructions in there when you go to do it.   And I would suggest you do what you want. I don't know how many years open you've got on your passport book.   But if it's you know, I'll let you make the choice, but you don't have to order the passport book right now. It doesn't make any difference internationally   if you're a national or not. They don't know any of this stuff.  

[02:39:53] Unknown:

Do you know do they update the the information on the computer when they look at it and I hand them the card and show them the book?  

[02:40:00] Unknown:

Well, the book, if you do it this way, will still be over under your old status. It would be the card and the attached the affidavit   that would change everything in your folder that would be represented.   But generally, if you're flying internationally, you don't fly on a passport card. You fly on the book because they gotta have visa stamps.  

[02:40:22] Unknown:

Okay.   If I'm not intending   to travel internationally,  

[02:40:28] Unknown:

do you still recommend having the card for it here in The States? Well, the card certainly is the book that you need to travel with internationally.   Except Mexico, Canada, and The Caribbean. You can go to those on a passport card.   You can't use it to go in under a driver's license. You can't do that anymore. They changed that in 2007   when I was going through this process.   And, now you have to have a passport card. You don't have to have a book.   In fact, if you try and use your book to go to Canada, they don't have a stamp for you or anything. Just the passport card.  

[02:41:02] Unknown:

I'll clarify my question. What I what I mean is, like, are you guys or are we am I going to be using then the passport card for  

[02:41:11] Unknown:

interstate travel within The United States? Is that why you guys are doing it? Or are you doing it? Well, number of our students do that and carry that as their primary identification with how you wanna handle it. It's up to you.  

[02:41:27] Unknown:

Right. That's kind of what I'm what I'm wondering about. Does this, I know it's not going to take the place of a license because those are different things. But Well, it can. Is that kind of what we're trying to do? It depends on the cop that's pulling you over, I would say. It does suffice in some cases.  

[02:41:45] Unknown:

Some cases, it might not. I can't give you an overall yes or no because now you're dealing with individuals   in different jurisdictions, not a federal deal.   Right. Well, so I'm not a vehicle.   Alright. Let me give you a good example of something came up the other day. They pull you over. Okay. You hand them your passport card. Right?   The guy goes, what's this? Do you have a license?   You go, I have a license, but I'm not in commerce right now.  

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Yep.  

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Got it?   Yep.   K.   I thought that was a real good way to handle that.   I look.   And this is, again, up to you how That is exactly true.   How well, why not? You would you be traveling to commerce?  

[02:42:45] Unknown:

I do not have a license, so that statement is incorrect.  

[02:42:48] Unknown:

Oh,   okay. That's right. You were talking about the new one they want you to get and stuff.   Well, I just don't have the that's a big change. It's just happened. They're starting to require that in those required situations, and I just don't have all the answers for that, Joseph. I'm sorry. Hey, Roger.   Dave, Mike.  

[02:43:10] Unknown:

Yep. I got a question for Joseph. Have you ever had a driver license, Joseph?  

[02:43:16] Unknown:

I have. Yes.  

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So a lot of times what they do,   you know, if they pull you over and and they got a, you know, a hard on for you or whatever, a lot of times they'll try and say your license,   you have a license, but it's suspended.   And then they'll get you on a driving on a suspended.   But   really, a passport   is an international  

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driving permit. Yes. It says right on there. Lady in Colorado,  

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she was an older gal. She drove a, you know, a big pickup truck, four wheel drive, her husband. She turned in her driver license,   and she called GEICO   and gave them her passport card. They accepted it for her insurance honor card. They got later on, you know, maybe a year or two later, they got in a big wreck. Somebody   forced him off the road in Colorado over a Cliff. He broke his back, the husband, and, you know, it was a pretty horrific   accident. And,   they covered everything.   And she has no driver license   Through GEICO,   they accepted that passport   as a driving permit, and they gave her insurance and covered her in a horrific car accident. So  

[02:44:33] Unknown:

Joseph?  

[02:44:34] Unknown:

Alright. I'm gonna go take a look. I'll come back in. I'll look at that.   Okay. Just y'all converse. I'll be right back.  

[02:44:42] Unknown:

Hey, Joseph. Can you hear me?  

[02:44:44] Unknown:

I can. Yes. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. This is Julie.  

[02:44:47] Unknown:

Okay. So there is one guy. His name is Brett Brett Johnson.   He's controversial,   regarding trust that he offers and stuff like that, so be careful. But you can go to freedomfreedomradio.us.   And I know he drives around with an international drive an international   driver's license, and he will help you get one of those if you want one of those that has something to do   with if you get pulled over and they ask you why you're carrying one of those, you're you have to say you're a member of the press.   And so and I believe that you can't get that in this state where you are domiciled. It has to be from some other state. But I know he offers those services, and I think he charges a fee for that. So,   that might be something that you wanna consider.  



[02:45:38] Unknown:

Thank you. I'll look into that.  

[02:45:44] Unknown:

Hello?  

[02:45:46] Unknown:

This is Scott in New York. I've been trying to get in for a while. I heard a couple of days ago,   and as I was reading it, it disappeared, but Trump had signed something. I don't know if it was an executive order or I don't know. He signed something   that any   cases   involving suspended licenses   going on now or in the past,   will they're they're they're done. They they can't arrest   and can't pursue any of that in the courts.   It disappeared while I was reading it,   and I confirmed with   Edwin Edwin   George. He said he heard about it too. Anyone have any information on that?   I yield.  



[02:46:33] Unknown:

I still got a radio show going on here.   Our conversation is Paul here?   Mhmm.   Okay.   I I couldn't hear anybody for a minute. Is still problems with the system or what?   Mhmm.   Okay. Roger.   Yes. Larry.  

[02:46:53] Unknown:

Yeah. I think, Joseph's confusion   about the, the passport   is he may not understand there's there's two kinds of applications. There's a DS11   Yeah. And ADS82.   It's the DS11 that you got assigned in front of an agent. Correct. And the DS82, you do not. And you've never mixed those up. I've listened to all of your interviews several times over, and you've always got  

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it right. Yep.  

[02:47:18] Unknown:

So, Joseph, what other questions can we Thank you for the clarity. So so I have a a book, so I'd be filling out DS82 because that's a renewal.   Now you're gonna wanted a card. Correct?  

[02:47:30] Unknown:

Let me say this interesting. They I don't know they if they will want you   to send in that current passport with the package. They might.   You may wanna call the state department on this   or read the instructions very thoroughly.   If you've got an open passport, even though you're just requesting a card,   I'll bet you they want you to send the passport in. Now what they'll do, if they do want that,   they will return that to you immediately   because you may have a trip somewhere,   and then the card will be processed and delivered to you.   K? Is is how I think that will go.  

But there's no sense if you're not traveling outside,   you know, where you gotta have Visa stamps.   Unless you just want to and you're loaded with cash, you probably don't need to do fork out a $140   for that.   I'm trying to help you here.   K?   Are y'all not hearing me again? I'm clear on all that. Okay. I'm clear on all that. Thank you. Alright. What else? How what else are you can you prick our brains on here?  

[02:48:47] Unknown:

I'm kinda well, somebody mentioned I think it was Murr about the 01/1948,   executive order.  

[02:48:56] Unknown:

That was me, Julie. Oh,  

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it's Julie. Okay. I'll write that down.   I'm curious about that. Maybe if you're on the Telegram group, you can send me something on that. I have looked into that executive order, and I'm I'm interested, but that that's pretty   I think that's down the line. And,  

[02:49:13] Unknown:

first things first for you, son. Kinda stuff later on. Yeah. Let's get you free, and you get Yep. Your feet underneath you, and, you know, you can make better decisions on what you do wanna do. So don't try and build Rome in a day,   and, I think you'll be far better off if you take that approach.   Julie here has been around. You contacted me   for the first time last December,   Julie.   And with the very few exceptions, she's been on every program since.   She's done a lot of studying as you can tell and does a lot of studying.   And,   so it doesn't come overnight.  

Give yourself just a little bit of time. Okay?   You're free. You you're free when you made up your mind to do it. Now what you're doing is just doing it officially so they'll recognize that.   K?   Then here's the deal.   The world doesn't change, Joseph.   You know, your neighbor isn't gonna come up to you and congratulate you.   The   mailman or the clerk at the store is gonna say, hey. I heard you're free now. None of that's gonna happen.   K?   So there's no change   unless you're the change.   And the only way you change   is by really thoroughly   grasping and understanding   the information.  

You know, the Bible says,   above all, seek understanding.   Not knowledge,   understanding.   And as I think I told you yesterday,   if not, I tell people around here quite often because it's just a conclusion things I've learned over all these years. And I've been messing with this thirty three years now. K?   You the the the degree how free do you wanna be, Joseph?   As free as you can be?   Free in the eyes of God or different than free in the eyes of the state? I don't know. Okay. Well, your freedom in either respect will be directly correlated   to your command of this information  

[02:51:20] Unknown:

because you're The answer is I'm already free. I've I've been doing this for quite a long time spiritually.  

[02:51:24] Unknown:

Well I've come back to do the work with the state Uh-huh. And I'm that's what I'm here for. Okay. Well I'm answering your question, so can you answer your question? Yes. Yes. You are. And and I think you will want to because I think you want to. But my point is   this is not a paper filing game. And the people would think, oh, I'm gonna get out of taxes, and they send in an affidavit.   They never think. They never or learn anything more. They don't ever put what they've learned to use, and they're not free. If they just filed a piece of paper because they could never defend their position if someone challenged them on it. And that's the difference and one of the reasons I don't charge you for this. If you paid me, I said, okay. Alright. Let's see, Joe. That'd be $500.   I'll give you one sentence on one piece of paper in one night. I'll do it for you. Okay?  

And and you now somebody's done it for you, and you paid for it. So you don't have a tendency to wanna go learn the information.   That's why I'm against charging people for this. One of the reasons. There's several.  

[02:52:25] Unknown:

K?  

[02:52:26] Unknown:

People you pay people for you go pay your CPA.   You don't go back and go over everything he's gone over. You paid him. You know he does a good job. He's competent, and you go about your way. Well, it's the same way with this. But you're not really free if you can't sit down like Sean did and his wife when they call that sheriff and said, can we come down and explain this to you, please?   And he said, yes.   If you pay somebody to do this, you couldn't do that.   So that's just a caveat to you. I'm not insinuating   that's how you'll be. I don't think you're that way.  

Already my perception of you and the   little time we've been able to spend together here,   and I think you'll be a valuable asset for us, and I think you will   let me tell you this,   and there'll be people that will echo this.   This information, when it's approached and then taken correctly,   changes lives.   You can get all these people that are on here to talk to you, and they'll I think most of them will say, yeah. This is life changing information.   But you gotta apply it. If you don't apply it, there's no change. And that's the reason I do this like I do, and it's structured   because that's what I wanna do is affect change.  

And I know   that we can do that with this if we get enough people.   And that's my dedication, and that's my my whole purpose in life,   I've learned,   is this right here.   And I take   it very seriously.   K?   Because I'm writing my legacy.   Yes. Was that Samuel? Who's that?  

[02:54:13] Unknown:

Yeah, Roger. I wanted to commend you at the beginning of the show. You made a great point of the spiritual nature of this,  

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and I think we need to do that more often and understand that that's what it's really all about. Well, I try and put that in there, but a lot of times, I just let the information lead the student. It's just like,   I had a student. He just died recently, unfortunately, down here in Ecuador on the coast, a retired pilot.   And this is what he told me.   Him and his wife would come up here, fly up to Quito. We'd get to spend dinners and and have meals together and stuff. Just a charming guys from Oklahoma, Tulsa.   And,   and he said, you know, Roger,   I never opened. Mary, same way on here, so I never opened a cover of a Bible my whole adult life.  

And now I've gotten into this information. I've made all these connections. And not only am I in the word every day, but I'm teaching my adult children what I neglected to teach them when show them when they were younger.   And it has effect it's it's a very powerful spiritual deal, and it can be patent   or it can be latent.   And we've had a number of people that same way. Exactly same story.   So in that way, it's a ministry.   Okay? And I don't   push it as a ministry. I push it as getting free because I know once you get free   in the process, you'll be exposed to and most likely make those connections yourself.  

But you can take everything we talk about and take it straight back to the Bible, every bit of it.   And that's why I said, you know, I found Satan   before I I found God because I found Satan in the damn internal revenue code.   Just like Larry was reading to us earlier.   K?   I mean, I did I had that exposure when I was young. Thanks to my parents,   you know, to make me to church and bay vacation bible school and all that. I was involved in all that when I was young. And I often like, people that do know everything in in their teenage years, gone off into drugs and got into the music industry for twenty, thirty years, twenty years, and all that. I kinda got got away from those teachings.   Although I felt dirty, part of the reason I got out of the record business because I saw Satan in there there all the time. And, so,   and it came back to me. And, boy, when I crossed paths with John and Glenn and got into this information,   it smacked me right in the face.  

And I said,   well, basically,   the the the big guy   put a put a ring in my nose and tied a rope to it and said, come here. You're following me.   And ever since, I've been,   absorbing the information, trying to understand it, trying to expose it to others, and teach it to those who were receptive.   Roger?   Yes. Larry.  

[02:57:18] Unknown:

Yeah.   If you wanna see God more,   I could finish up what I was reading in,   that one particular statute.  

[02:57:27] Unknown:

No. No. I've seen plenty of God here. Thank you.   I I wanna have this conversation with, Joseph here.   And I did that. That stuff just it you start getting into statutes and reading all that stuff, and people's eyes glaze over. K?   So I just that's why you don't ever hear me do that here hardly. K?  

[02:57:48] Unknown:

Sometimes it's Roger. But I I think I think this is an important subject because your your teachers went to jail over teaching   the the revocation of election process, and there's a lot of things I've discovered  

[02:58:01] Unknown:

in my research. No. It has nothing to do with what we do here.   I totally disagree.   That was their experience. This is our experience. We don't have anything to do with that. We don't talk about it here about   or do other students. No, Larry. Please.   No. I well, if you guys want to do other students that Well, then you guys need to go start your own show. K? And you go talk about it. No. No. What I'm saying is you're advocating for this for the longest time. Well, I've no. It wasn't the long no. It wasn't the longest time. It was the last couple of years.   For I never brought it up for the first twelve or so.  

Okay? It was when John   heard me talking about it one day and went off on his own, never asked me a question,   never told me he was doing it, and got this huge return back. And so that's when I started considering   it. It may be viable,   and it may be a way we could also have some cash flow off of something that doesn't come directly out of your pocket. So that's when we started doing it. We had very little success. We had a little, but only with people that had paid in or had the withholding   that hadn't applied for it with a ten forty yet.   That's where the success came from. On the three years back where you file a ten forty x, we never had have had one thing happen successfully.  

Since then, I'm not gonna sit here and write all this stuff. Since then, Mark, who was, has life has changed. His parents are elderly. He's having to even do all the cooking and oversee him. He's got all his own rest of his life to live. He's not seeing any success,   and we just kinda decided to drop the whole thing, Larry. So, no, it doesn't make any difference anymore.   And it wasn't for the longest time. It was only for a couple of years. And when I saw that it wasn't working, we backed off of it.  

[02:59:57] Unknown:

So, no, we don't do it. It's not working because it's not working because,   it was never meant to to,  

[03:00:05] Unknown:

work in in in that Okay. You're not allowed you're not permitted to go back more than a year. It did work for people, and I don't wanna discuss it anymore. Okay, Larry?   Please? Okay. Roger?   Damn.  

[03:00:22] Unknown:

Roger Yes. Roger, earlier in   the earlier in the show, we're talking about pharmakia, and I noticed that in my King James version, those translators decided   to translate it as sorcery   or witchcraft.  

[03:00:37] Unknown:

Yes.  

[03:00:38] Unknown:

Again, occult things to to take you off of Yes. The real goals and beliefs. Right? What did, John told us? He said, I went back  

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on that sorcery thing.   He said, I went back   and looked at the definitions of sorcery.   And one of them was   chance,   c h a n t s.   And he said,   could their chant be   UCC,   UCC,   u c c,   etcetera.   Good point.   Okay.   I'm trying to get back to you, Joseph.   As a new student, you're the kind of person that I'm here for.   And I'm   and and the reason I'm here is for people like you. K?   I we thrive on new students.   We all get to go back and go over these basic concepts.   You can't hear them enough. All it does is strengthen you because the only way we learn is drill, practice, rehearse, drill, practice, rehearse. And when you've drill, practice, and rehearsed, you go back and drill, practice, and rehearse some more. That's the only way we learn.   And what will happen with you as a new person   is you will be introduced to these concepts.  

And then if you hang around here, as some people are apt to do,   and we get down the line and get another new person, and I start doing the same thing we're doing with you,   and you're gonna see something new in it because you've grown.   See?   You see a wrinkle you didn't see in it before because you've grown into the wrinkle, if you will, if you understand what I'm saying.   So,   they're very, very fundamentally important. Like, we haven't done a whole bunch of stuff with you.   We haven't done I I I haven't explained to you how you,   about the word person at all,   which is critically important.  

And you you can't find hardly any judges or lawyers that know anything about it because they don't teach it in law schools anymore.   And it's and it's everything. It's pretty simple.  

[03:03:01] Unknown:

R plus d equals r. Look at the person oh oh,   quite often. I've I've actually looked it up again after watching your video before I got on my first call with you here.   Just just for the record, you know, I'm I'm not super green. I am new here with you guys, but Yeah. So I know. Looking into this for   four or five years off and on. Okay. Well last two strong.   Okay. But that person is definitely valuable. It's  

[03:03:27] Unknown:

I don't disagree with you. I just wanted to Yeah. Bring you up to speed. Uh-huh. Okay. Well, well, since you've been in the patriot movement for a couple of years, one of my first duties,   I'd as I see it is to try and get all the patriot garbage since you've been fed and taken in out of your mind. And let's get a clean slate and get back to things that are real because they talk about things that aren't real. K?  

[03:03:51] Unknown:

But, here I'm I'm I'm I'm asking questions, but but Okay. I'm definitely not coming with any kind of scathed information too. Like I said, I'm here with an open mic. Well, I mean, what I mean is all I have. I don't come from a patriot movement. And and I'm I'm I've not spent time with, like,   Joe Lustica's movement and but he's got valuable information. Oh, boy. Does he? You know, Brandon Joe Williams   is not somebody who I followed. Uh-huh. But he's got very valuable information. These are great individuals. You know? Every message over the messenger, and I'm not attached to any of that. Okay. Great. Well, let me tell you. Everybody's got a piece of the puzzle.  

[03:04:26] Unknown:

Everybody.   But the big piece they're missing is just the feudal system.   And if you don't know that, you really are gonna never do anything but shadow box with it. From one of my teachers quoting. I I agree with them.   And and, here's another way to prove that. You know about tragedy and hope?   That book, Tragedy and Hope by,   oh, what was his name? Now I can't remember it. Quigley.   Quigley. Harold Quigley. Are you familiar with that, Joseph?  

[03:04:58] Unknown:

Yep. Yep.  

[03:05:00] Unknown:

In in and, you know, he had access to the CFR files for two years. K?   And in that book, he said the world's financial leaders met in regular   secret sessions   so they could fashion the world's economy   in a feudalistic   fashion.   Well, I dare say that you can't have a feudalistic   monetary system if there ain't service involved.   Capisce?   So,  

[03:05:32] Unknown:

I can also Did you write the book Sovereign to Surfing, or is that just your website, Sovereign to Surfing? Well, that ain't the website for me anymore. That's gone defunct.  

[03:05:43] Unknown:

I I wrote a manuscript   that was '80 pages   back in the early two thousands before I left the country,   and I never could get anybody to read it. I still didn't have the whole answer yet.   Okay? But I had most of it.   And,   I couldn't get anybody to even read it. So that was part of the reason I left the country because I knew John and Glenn had they'd railroaded them for fifteen years.   Concur with both of them, served time together.   But, anyway   and I thought, well, I'll I'm sitting there one day in Florida,   and a voice comes to me. It's,   a second time that he come to me and said, you need to get out. It was right when Obama was running.  

And I thought, oh, hell.   And I I'm where would I go? I don't I've never traveled. I don't speak another language.   And then it came to me again a while later. I don't remember how long.   And I'd learned if it comes twice, you better listen to it.   I had a friend from the record business who owned property in Argentina,   had been trying to get me to come down there with him. And,   on Saturday night, I saw a show called Globe Trackers,   which used to be on PBS, and that episode was on Argentina.   And I made the decision to move after watching that show,   and ended up down there for nine years.  

But   it was when I had to go get a passport   that I found the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years, and it was the top of the first page of the passport application.   One of them was secretary of state of The United States Of America.   And back then, they used to have the warning box.   Right? The first thing underneath that on that paper, first page was the warning box.   And when I saw the word affidavit in it,   I knew I had them.   So I found the answer   in having to go interact with the federal government, which I was   really apprehensive about doing like everybody else,   and going with them and finding the freaking answer. So was I told to get out of the country   just to get out, or was I directed to get out of the country so I'd find the answer I was looking for for fifteen years? And I can't answer that question.  



[03:08:14] Unknown:

I have a similar story. I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah. And so for the first  

[03:08:21] Unknown:

all these years, all of the first thing we did was send a passport application in. So we didn't even have all that other stuff until that one incident out of California.   And then that made me rethink this to a certain extent.   Enough where I could say,   well, hey, is a well, we heard side effects earlier in the show. As a side effect of this, they keep seeing all more more pieces of this paper come across people's desk up there, and people are talking about, wow. We're starting to get a lot of these every day and things like that. And I thought, shit. That can't be anything but good.   So here we are.  



[03:09:02] Unknown:

Now, Roger, that d s 82, do I need can I do that online, or should I print it out and do it by hand? I don't either way,  

[03:09:09] Unknown:

they're gonna run you through a   series of questions. I think now they've got six questions.   If you don't answer any of them, no, or something, you go back to an 11. But you're just you've got one that's open.   You just need to find out   in the instructions if they want you to send your passport book in with the package, and they may.   K? And then they'll give you an address to send it to. But just go read it. I,   I I had to do it electronically here. I just did a renewal about a year and a half ago.   Roger? Yes, sir. Larry?  

[03:09:52] Unknown:

Yeah. Just wanna   remind you and, Joseph that   if you do pick up a DS11 or DS82   at a post office or other,   you know, facility,   to be sure that it is the up to date version   because I picked one up when I got my passport, I picked up a passport from a post office a passport application from a post office. It was a DS11,   and then I filled it out. And when I, couple of months later, I I filled it out, and then I went to apply for my passport.   And   the, agent said, I can't use this. And I said, why? He said, because they have since then updated   the, passport application. So you'll see a revision date. Just make sure you have the most up to date   passport application.  



[03:10:42] Unknown:

Mhmm. Or do it on the web. They'll have the latest one on the web.   Yes. Is that Julie, or was that is that Yeah. Are you multiple females here or what?  

[03:10:53] Unknown:

Yeah. I've just got my passport   card as I and my book as I told you, and you are correct,   Roger. Joseph will have to send his existing valid   passport   book,   in with his d s,   82,   requesting a passport   card. And they will and then you just request that they return that  

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passport book that's still valid. You won't have to rep you'll get it in re you'll get it in return mail if I if I remember something like that correctly.   Yep. K. So there there's that for you. It should be pretty easy, Joseph.   You check it out online,   but I don't think there's anything complicated.   It'll should give you a total instructions. If you have any problems, just call call state department. Maybe you'll get the same clerk, Juliette. Here's the,  

[03:11:45] Unknown:

yeah, here's the thing, Roger. You can either fill when you go to D F 82, it gives you two options, fill it out online or download it and mail it in. I just downloaded mine,   and I actually went to the actual headquarters in the   thing. But if you're not able to do that, then you would just send it priority mail. Uh-huh. And if you pay the expedite fee, you write expedite expedite on the outside of the envelope, and you should be okay. But I'm pretty sure those are the questions that you have to,   answer to to determine if you can use a DS82,   well, you will be yes for all of them, and you will be able to do that since you have a valid,   passport right now.  



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Also, if you you're not planning on expediting it, are you, Joseph?  

[03:12:32] Unknown:

I don't think I'd have any reasons for that.   Well, I'd One thing I'm not clear, is everybody sending it in physically with,   a copy of your   affidavit to the secondary?  

[03:12:44] Unknown:

Absolutely. It's got to be in there. They cover letter. That's the only way you change status. You've got to do it with them, and you've got to do it in this way in some manner where you rebut the presumption.   In other words, you could tell them what you are, and you could also tell them what you're not. You could say I'm not related to black slaves who receive federal citizenship after the civil war. You know? But I just suggest you use one of these simple approaches and just do it. It's not complex. Don't make it that way.   Roger?  

Yes, Larry? I was first, Larry.   Oh.  

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Oh. Can you hear me, Rog?   I So we both have we just my wife and I just   renewed ours with the '82,   and we actually went to the post office.   But we just sent it in, you know, regular without expediting it. But when we got the notice that they received it,   we called them up. And my wife said we were planning on traveling to Canada,   and we got ours back in a week. That's good.   From the day talked to them, we got it back in in five days of, you know, five business days. So The only reason  

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the only reason I wanted to expand on the expedition thing   is to tell you if you pay that extra $60,   I think,   then they've got a section to expedite it. And if you're gonna pay the $60,   put a travel date in.   If you put a travel date in,   they put it on the top of the stack.   If you don't put any date in there, it goes on the bottom of the stack. It's the only reason I brought that up.  

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Roger?   Roger, let me tell you something. That they are now requiring,   that you have proof that you're traveling. Okay. Well, that's alright. Wanna see on. So what I did so what I did was I went to booking.com,   and I booked,   a   hotel in Canada.   And then, I,   the event changed, and I made sure that the hotel was cancel cancellable.   So I never went on my trip because,   the the plans changed.  

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The one the one thing you don't wanna do, you don't wanna lie on a passport application. I was going to say Well I wouldn't do that. But you see, Joseph is in Arizona.   He could say, well, I'm driving down to Mexico. But then that wouldn't fly because I think you already have a passport card, don't you?  

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Yeah. That's the problem.  

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Okay. So just don't not a card.   Oh, you got a book, not a card.   Okay. Well, then that'd work for you because you don't you don't need the book to travel to Mexico. They want you to have the card. So that works just fine with you. And,   look, unless you're traveling, don't expedite it.   K?   Roger? Here's the one thing you do not wanna do. You do not wanna lie on a passport application.   They take that incredibly   seriously.   Don't do it.   Yes, Blair.  

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That so he can show them that I'm allowed to attach this. Maximize  

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their profitability   and control when it comes to,   Israel's spy apprised in America. Cue. Throughout the relationship, Epstein signaled to Barack that he was interested in keeping abreast of security related technology, emailing Barack articles about cyber warfare, emergency preparedness, Russian nanotechnology,   and unit eighty two hundred, the Israeli equivalent of the National Security Agency. Quote, I enjoy strategy and strategic planning. Through.  

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Are we back? Can I communicate?   Y'all, I'm gonna cut this off with these problems where I can't hear you for a long period of time. Alright. Can you hear me now or not?  

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Yeah. Yes. Yeah.  

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Okay. Well, I didn't hear anybody for the last number of seconds.   Anyway,   we'll be back Saturday. We don't have to try and cram in everything into poor old Joseph at one time, but there's a lot of foundational things.   We you you should, if you should read my book if you haven't,   The Legal Argument.   I wrote to answer your question earlier, I deviated from it. I wrote an 80 page manuscript.   I was gonna put it out for free   when well, I got on the air.   I was with Jeff Bennett, and I said, well, I got this 80 page manuscript we can put out there. And he goes, well, why don't we make a book out of it and make some money?   And so I turned it over to John and Glenn   who now   realized what I had found,   and Glenn edited it. And Glenn has won cases at the Supreme Court of the United States of America   for inmates when he was in prison.  

He is no lightweight.   Okay?   So Glenn is the reason the book is what it is.   I'd read the legal argument at least twice.   K?  

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The legal argument. I got it down.  

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Yeah. The book's on the website.   The nice thing about having the ebook   is you got search capabilities.   So when something comes up, you're, oh, he's quoting Lewis t McFadden. You can put McFadden in there and all the places he's listed will come up. So those search cap capabilities   as you're learning   can be really, really,   positive for you.   Oh, we're trying to get the available and hardback too. It hadn't been available for a couple years now.   We're trying   somehow to get it up.   K? Now anything else, Joseph, or I'm gonna jet off here?   No. I'm pretty clear. I'm pretty complete. I appreciate your time. Okay, man. Well, listen. We welcome you to the group, and I think you'll be a nice fit.  

And, I've never had in fifteen years, nobody's ever   found anything I said on the air here to be wrong.   You know, I might mispronounce a name and the pronunciation   police and myrrh   will come out,   but,   or I misspelled   something or I got a date wrong.   Minor shit. Because I sit here and do all this from memory. I don't have anything in front of me.   But never anything major has ever been contradicted,   and every government that's ever been presented with it has accepted it.   Oh, if you really wanna have an impact, though,   this came up the other day too. It's kinda interesting. A different twist.  

With your attorney general there in the state,   instead of mailing it to them,   if you got the shekels,   pay a process server to deliver it to them.  

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Mhmm.  

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I thought that was a very nice twist.   K.   So it doesn't have to be, but I I I would think they would   they would look at it with a little more of a non jaundiced eye if that happened.   Wow.   Anyway, just a suggestion. We don't tell anybody to do anything around here.  

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Who who are you saying send that to?  

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The attorney general of the state.   And then, if you're gonna do IRS specifically?   Pardon me? Arizona.  

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So secretary of the state specifically for the state that I'm in, and what what would be the general. Power move with that? It's a well, you're having to disserve like a law for the state. Yeah. Like a lawsuit.  

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They only get service stuff from for for lawsuits.   And all this is is a notice.   It just puts a little more emphasis on it, I would think.   It's just an idea somebody had the other day. I thought it was real good. You know?   I'm don't don't do it if you don't have a job or you'll get it either way. It works either way. It's just all these little twists. You know?   And listen. You've been around for a while. You're obviously a smart guy.   This is the this is some deep stuff, and it's much deeper than it appears on the surface.   But you won't know that immediately.  

You'll just age into that a bit with the information.   K? Like season.   Like, it's hard for somebody at your,   point of this to see the importance of this.   Okay?   And the importance is this is the tip of the power root of the Rothschild Rockefeller   power   tap root.   They gotta have us a slave for everything else to work, and we take it away from them, and they can't say shit about it.  

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Right.  

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Roger? Yes. Julie.  

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I have a question for you.   Earlier on when William was on the show and he was talking about how he had the book now that he's been reading about the slaughterhouse case in detail, and he said The US citizens   are the black   who were freed   after the civil war. And then you made the statement,   on applying for a,   passport to make sure you attach your affidavit of citizenship evidence or and make a statement to the fact you're not related to the black slaves that received federal citizenship after the Civil War. I didn't say I didn't say to make that statement.  

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I said you could   make that statement Yeah. In a negative   because it's almost impossible   to disprove   a negative.   I like the affirmative   approach. I like the affirmative   approach   now that I'm deeper into this because it's just right, direct, fact, and simple.  

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They got they got a right Okay. But my quest but my question to you is then the fourteenth amendment,   was that just relate was that just supposed to relate to the blacks, then it wasn't applicable at all to the whites? That's my question for you. Well, that's a very good question. I've pondered it on you talk it  

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it it related to the whites   in the fact that they were the whites in Jim Crow and were usually a state citizen   who was white and Christian.   The blacks   but, you know, if you go into the slaughterhouse cases, there's a place in there. And this well,   you live right next to DC. Okay?   So   here is what was happening. There was no federal citizenship.   The people that if they weren't state citizens   and they weren't some other country's citizens,   if they were born and raised in DC or the territories,   they were stateless.   They had nowhere to get rights except natural rights.  

K?   So this they see this opportunity   and formulated this plan, and the most obvious people were the   blacks that they had brought over and sold to the country because it's the damn Jews that did all that 90%.   And and so my question is and it says in Slaughterhouse   because of Dred Scott   of course, the Dred Scott decision,   an African man could not be a citizen with anything short of an amendment to the constitution.   And they said and for the people in born and raised in DC in the territories,   there was debate in the political circles, the newspapers,   and the public journals.  

It states that right in slaughterhouse cases. And don't forget, this is only three years removed.   And fourteenth amendment was 1868   and slaughterhouse in 1871.   So it's just like we were saying, well, gosh. Remember when Trump was elected during the election? You know?   So that is an observation   I take real seriously.   And I don't think,   in thinking about   it,   some over the years,   that the everybody in DC was not former black slaves.   They had to have whites and other ethnicities   in there that were born and raised there. So they were stateless too, weren't they?   So it wasn't exclusively   for blacks,   but it was primarily for blacks. And I've never heard anyone discuss   this issue   anywhere   in any depth.  

All the old court cases Right. Automatically mean as blacks.   Okay? And I think there's a wiggle room. Made the  

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so when William made the comment today that,   after his reading said The US citizens are free blacks, that could potentially be misleading there because there we also had white as slaves during that time. Wait a minute. Yeah. But, man,  

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well, yeah. But we're discussing shit nobody's ever discussed to my knowledge in any kind of,   official capacity.   But it's just if you as you get so deep in this information   and you start realizing there's these little cracks and stuff in there.   I never it's never been discussed in a court case. I don't know that anybody's ever brought it up, but that almost has to be that way because everybody that was born and raised there were not black slaves.   Rick, was that you trying to say something?  

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Yes, sir. I wanted to tell you about I was just watching a few minutes ago about a video that was dropped a couple hours ago, and it's about a   must be recent today, maybe, ruling by the ninth circuit   on a,   birthright citizenship case.   And it involves the fourteenth amendment and the phrase and substitute jurisdiction thereof. Oh, man. I can't wait to find out about that.  

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That's the big topic, and that's the big question.   Is that little phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof? Now we understand   what's going on there.   But most people, even lawyer, just read over the fourteenth amendment. Joseph,   there's eight legal landmines in the fourteenth amendment.   Person,   naturalization,   United States,   born   and subject,   jurisdiction,   citizen of The United States, and resident in state wherein they reside. There's eight legal landmines in that very simple sentence. And if you don't know this stuff behind it, you ain't ever gonna attribute nothing to that little sentence.   But it's everything. It runs the world. Those first three words, all persons born, that runs the world.  

Yeah, Rick.  

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Well,   I think that the previous state citizens were not subject to the jurisdiction or office. No. They weren't. And I don't think they're Well, there was I would give you a a little piece of advice. I wouldn't put that thing in there denying that you're a black citizen. You might be accused of hate speech. Well, it  

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it never it was always accepted. And and then I realized as we've gone forward now the other approach is so much better. The affirmative approach is so much better. And it's just straight,   simple. They can't deny it. Let's move on. Let's file this. You go your way, you bastards. I'm going mine.   K?  

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The court case is Mancata versus, Rubio.  

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Okay. Well, man, I'm sure it'll be discussed on Barnes this week, and we're gonna see more and more of this,   of the this birthright citizenship coming up, especially as we get close to October, I would think. But that's good, Rick. You wanna read it and give us a book report,   Saturday?   I would love. I tell you what, or if you could come on and talk about it tomorrow with Brent, it'd be great. I'm sure Brent wanna hear about it too.  

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Well, I was just I've only watched about seven minutes of the video, but it's on,   Robert   Gouvei,   g o u v e I, on YouTube.   So he was covering it.  

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Okay. Well, watch it and and give us some Roger? Yes, ma'am. There is one quick not got I'm sorry. Go ahead. No. No. You were in the middle of the meeting.  

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No. I was just adding to you. I was adding to what you were saying about the ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals because there's also other,   cases,   regarding president Trump's executive order revoking birthright citizenship  

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where they've they're ruling against him also on other cases besides the one that you just mentioned as well. Well, just like I said, you can do you can bet when this is gonna be heard at the Supreme Court this time. They heard a little bit on it last time. I don't think his executive order is out of line   because he's not trying to get rid of all birthright citizenship.   He's trying to get contesting the 300 so babies that were born here of illegal   migrants.   Are they birthright citizens? And I believe the court said no.  

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Roger, there's one other angle that I want you to consider.   When the fourteenth amendment was put in, the Southern states were under   federal military rule, and I think they were under the jurisdiction. So maybe   the people in the Southern States, all of them,   the fourteenth amendment may have applied to them, but not the Northern states.  

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As to white citizens?  

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Well, yeah, they were subject to the jurisdiction. They're under under military rule. Well,  

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I don't I don't know about that. I just don't know. But if so, it was only because they were under military rule. But they they couldn't have,   gotten rid of it because Jim Crow laws were inactive along that whole time.  

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Roger?   Yes? This one judge named Gold, g o u l d   Gold. He has   concluded,   that,   Trump Trump's executive order is not correct. And what is he citing? He's citing the US Supreme Court decision in United States versus one Wong Kim arc arc.  

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Oh, yeah. Well, you start gonna hear that come up a lot too. That's the definitive case on in the whole history of the country on on all these citizenship,   denizenship issues.   And I could if I could read, I would pull up the site out of the out of the,   the dissenting opinion   that where,   chief justice,   the what's what was his name? I could Fuller and the great dissenter, John Harlan,   both dissented in that great case   and said in the back of it that the fourteenth amendment was the feudal system   and that it was coming on to this country   just as it was England was being relieved of its inconveniences.  

It was the relationship between a liege man and a liege lord, and it was permanent and unbending   and not changed by time or space.   That's their language.   That's one of the few places you'll ever see that someone recognized what was going on.   The other places I found   are in,   congressman McFadden.   He saw what was going on. In one of his speeches, he said they're erecting   a Machiavellian   feudal   system.   They didn't know the total endgame, but those people saw it. K?   Yep.  

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Okay. I'm gonna take off. Right? Hey. Hey, Roger. This is, Roger, this is Joseph. I have one more question before you go. Okay, sir. Please.   So I have filed a UCC one   lien against my name, and I I wrote in all the collateral and all the property and everything and put it under my   my trust name. So I have the trust filed, but I haven't   completed it complete   I just did that so that I could do the UCC one. I don't see that being in contention, and I know that filing UCC three can amend that or or terminated   completely.  



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Do you have a opinion on that? I don't. I know Tim Turner and a bunch of people around the country that are doing that. Some people, I think, got in trouble doing it. You've got it, it sounds like, under a trust.   I don't see where it plays any part of this process at all.   K? I mean, that's just I don't I just don't know. You you have you didn't get free by doing that.  

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No. No. Of course. It was just an action. My   my approach, my attempt was my intention was simply   to take the power out of the hands of the state, which is what I'm here for, which is what we're all here for. Well,  

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yeah, it would be. It's a much harder battle to fight than this one, I would assume. So,   I don't see how that would affect what you've already done. I just don't know much about it. I mean, listen. I know a lot of stuff about a lot of things,   certain in an area, but I just don't know everything. And if I don't know it, I'll tell you.  

[03:34:43] Unknown:

No worries. I appreciate that, and I I'll do the same. And somebody mentioned earlier about a secured party creditor, and that was my my steps that my trust becomes a secured party creditor. And if anybody knows that, they can,   message me on Telegram, and and and that's the easiest place to reach me. Okay.   But, anyway, I don't need to go that way, and and I'm I'm here to do this. And, I'm empty, and I'm here to learn. Alright. Well, I think if you haven't heard Brent before, you'll really enjoy him. And, just an amazing individual.  

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And, other than that, we'll be back Saturday and have more open discussions like this. So feel free to come join us Saturday.  

[03:35:26] Unknown:

Roger, that video I watched was put out by a criminal defense attorney in Phoenix.  

[03:35:31] Unknown:

Ah, okay. I bet. Okay. I think I've seen his some of his stuff before.   Okay, Rick. Thank you. Well, we'll find out more about it as we go forward. You're gonna see more of them. It's gonna be challenged, and   and people don't understand the difference in what Trump was trying to do and the actual birthright citizenship.   They can't get rid of birthright citizenship, folks. It it runs the whole world,   all persons born.   So,   interesting times.   Well, good to talk to you again, Joseph. Glad you're back. And,   we'll,   we'll see y'all soon.  



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Thank you, Rosalyn. Roger? Yeah. Roger? Yes, Julie.  

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Yes, dear.  

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What Rick was saying about, that judge,   Robert, he actually has his own show,   and it's called watching the watchers if anybody is interested in that. I think I've heard that before.   Yeah. So he has,   it's focused on accountability and, transparency.   And,   you can just Google it. I can't remember what he says,   when it is when it's available. But if you're on Instagram,   his handle is wow, w o w, Rob.   Wow, Rob.   And he posts,   his shows and everything, but he does have he's the host of watching the watchers.  

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Okay.   I think that's I saw one of those episodes one time, I think.  

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Anyway, my stomach His last name is his last his last name is spelled g o u v e I a for anybody who's interested in high yield. Thank you very much for that information, Rick.  

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Yeah. Thank you, Rick. Thank you, everybody. Love you. See you, Robert.   Have  

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yes, sir. Roger. Roger, you gotta give me give me a question. Let me ask a question. Okay.   This is Michael, Minnesota.  

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Hey, Michael. Hey, Michael.  

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Hi there. I've been listening all. Boy, what a brisk,   show today. Yeah.  

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You're still on here, and it's, two what is that? Almost I remind me again. O'clock. Yeah.  

[03:37:49] Unknown:

Yeah.   Alright.   IRS. Could we talk about the IRS just a little bit   Just because it was brought up today.  

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Alright. Give me some mercy. Low mercy. In what capacity? Well,  

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your opinion now is to give up,   don't look back behind the three years. Don't go after the three year tax returns. Just be a national,   become a non filer, and move on.  

[03:38:16] Unknown:

Is that your opinion now? Well, we haven't had any success of people   being successful at it later. One of our students I I got   you. I got you.   Called the IRS, one of their support people,   and the lady started yelling at the guy. And she's going, you're all going to jail. We've got 500,000   of these things sitting there.   So   I just hope we haven't had much success.   Mark did it all.   He can't doesn't wanna do it, and I can't help you. So if you wanna pursue it,   go. But I don't know where to guide you, how to guide you, or who to send you to that I trust. Well, I've been listening to you for about two years now. Can you give me some perspective? What was it like  

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before me ten years ago?   While you're on the air and ever, you're telling people I gotta get out of the IRS. Well, we we weren't doing that. What was the Well, we weren't doing that, Tim. You weren't even  

[03:39:16] Unknown:

I never even brought it up.   Until fairly recently, John well, I don't remember three or four years ago during COVID.   And I I mentioned it. It came up on the air. I mentioned it.   He went back and did the research, never contacted me, never asked me, did it all himself,   and he got a   shit pot full of Federal Reserve notes dumped in his account.   And then his uncle died, and he got a hold of the farm.   And he went to try and take over his   uncle's   lines of credit,   and none of the banks   that he could even drive to would do it unless he had three years of back tax forms.   So he had to take that big pile of money and send it back to him.  

Mhmm.  

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K. So then if you if you weren't teaching the ROEs  

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ten years ago, five, seven years ago, what were you teaching? Isn't I'm teaching all this data. How to get free, passport, all all this information   I normally teach. I hate the IRS. Ten forty n r's. The reason we're here is because I hate that crap.   I hate the tax system. I hate the ambiguity.   I hate the confusion.   I hate all of it. And so after I went to court with the IRS on a summons for books and records   and got the crap beat out of me and got my wounds licked   and healed, and I said, there's gotta be a better way to do this.   And I searched for jurisdiction   and left the tax movement behind.  



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Okay. So is John and Glenn's   method of   calling yourself a non   resident alien, according to the IRS   and filing a ten forty NR,   is all of that solid? Is that solid? Totally solid.  

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Totally solid.  

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Okay.  

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So all of your students right now that are all trying to do a ten forty n r and Well, I don't figuring out that puzzle. I have no idea. I can't help them. Mark won't help them. If you're trying to get money back, say you're with your employer withheld because he wouldn't recognize it, the next year,   you haven't filed a ten forty on it. You file a ten forty n r, and you'll get that back.   I don't know about further back. If you're a national.   Comet? If you are a national. Yes. Comet? Yes.   Comet?   Okay.  

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Yes. Bear with me. I'm sorry, Roger. Hey. Hey, Michael.  

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You should talk to Dave and Kaye   at national status dot com, national status dot info.   Those two   know everything about that. And if you go to their website under Remedy, they have such amazing information on there for you.   And I I know Dave is on the show right now, but I don't know if he's listening or not. But my understanding   is that   if they act I my understanding, and I'm not sure if I don't wanna speak out of turn here, is that they file   their ten forty n r's with their ten ninety   nine stuff they get. But they there's a way you have to fill it out, and there's instructions on their website where you enter zero   on that form   because that's not tax able income. So I I recommend you reach out to Dave and,  

[03:42:55] Unknown:

pay and get on their website because there's invaluable information on there. You've you've chummed up you've chummed up Dave. So he's gonna tell you straight from the horse's mouth. I am gonna go fix my lunch kick it out. Because I'm starving. Okay?   And you could handle him pretty good, Dave.   Okay? Okay. Alright. Thanks, man. I'll see y'all tomorrow with Brent. Ciao.  

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Okay,   Roger. I gotta take the stream down because I've gotta reconfigure the computer for Pauling to fly. If you can continue to talk in free conference call because   free conference call is recording,   your conversation   and will be for some time. However,   I do need to take us off the air because I have network reconfiguration   to do, and I only have sixteen minutes   to accomplish what could take an hour. So this has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com   and Global Voice Radio Network. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is   thematrixdocs.com.  

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Catch you later. I'm out of here. Bye.  

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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.