In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses the intricacies of political status and the implications of being a national versus a citizen of the United States. The conversation delves into the historical context of the fourteenth amendment and its impact on modern-day citizenship. Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding one's political status and the voluntary nature of citizenship agreements, urging listeners to educate themselves and take control of their legal standing.
The episode also features a lively discussion with listeners about the complexities of legal definitions, the significance of affidavits, and the process of changing one's political status. Roger and the participants explore the challenges of navigating the legal system, the importance of understanding one's rights, and the potential for reclaiming personal sovereignty. The conversation highlights the need for education and empowerment in the pursuit of freedom and autonomy.
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Yep. You can try again right here at the Radio Ranch on the twenty seventh of, August, the Wednesday. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. The title label, if you will, of our little two hour get together here six days a week. And, so let's see. Paul, I know you're there, buddy. Morning. Yes. Hope so. Got another solicitor. Well, no. It wasn't yeah. I guess it was some kind of a call this morning. Anyway, wrong number. You usually come out and give us all of the folks that are helping us, our compadres to extend our reach all over the globe, and we wanna give them proper recognition and credit for doing so, if you would, mister Beaner.
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I will do that. Thank you, Raj. We are on 106.9WVOUFM in Chicago, part of the NET family of broadcast services, which includes homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, and stream life.tube. We are on radiosoapbox.com, thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink who has his own censorship challenges. Boy, things are really getting crazy over there. Boy, are they rolling. Yes. We're on Global Voice Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net, or that link, is on our website, thematrixdocs.com, as well as the links for free conference call to join us live on the show, which brings me to the where it all began is our anchor platform. Thanks to pastor Eli James. That is eurofolkradio.com.
That link is also on the website, thematrixdocs.com, and we cannot thank him enough for giving us a place to anchor our message and to call home. Thank you, Raj. You're welcome, Paul.
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Paul, have you heard what, all the crap that's going on in your hometown area up there?
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My hometown area?
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Well, Minneapolis. Right? Minneapolis, Saint Paul, and that kinda where you call home?
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Well, that's that's where I started.
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Okay. I I don't know if you heard. I just heard on Harrison. I didn't hear anything about it yesterday. There was a couple of shootings in Catholic churches up there, eight people dead. Numbers of people wounded. One guy walked into one of it's on the South Side Of Minneapolis, walked into the Catholic church. They were having a mass or a service as a commemorate school starting, walked in and dropped 30 rounds on them out of a two two three. Oh, nice. And then the same day, there was another day before, same day, there was another shooting where, at another Catholic church where a couple people were killed. So it's like the wild wild west up there evidently.
I didn't hear a word about it. K? So, anyway
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It is is that was was that the Saint John's Basilica?
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I don't think so. I don't think that name that doesn't ring a bell. He just he said in the report what church it was. I just don't remember. It's on the South Side Of Minneapolis, but there's but like I said, there's two two or three shootings up there in the last couple of days with fatalities. So yikes, what else? Good morning, everybody. Lot lot lot going on, I guess, really. I've got a couple of things to talk about here as we get started. But just to say, the show's really for new folks, but you can't help but cover these news events and a little bit of getting in the groove of the show here at the start. So in a minute, we'll check with you and see if you got questions or comments because, really, the show's for you.
We just hadn't had enough new people here lately. We did with with Todd and his gang coming on with a surge, and we go through, ups and downs of this. You know? It's like learning. Learning is a series of plateaus. Have you ever seen that Explained, Paul, you know, you learn something, you go along, and you go a steep up uphill there on the graph, and then you go along on a plateau for no telling how long. And then the next little spur to learning goes up, and it's another rise, hockey stick curve type stuff. And then and, so that's, I guess, how we're progressing. You know? Something will happen. We'll get a few people. We're growing.
So much slower slower than I would, of course, have anticipated or like, but, this isn't totally my ballgame. It's the big guy's ballgame. And so when he's ready, you know, it's like the old saying, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. And it's kinda like that. So we'll wait for him to open the door for us. You know, the the realistic thing, though, is the worse things get, the more impact we're gonna have when that happens. I at least that's the way I see it. So we just keep yes?
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The only thing that I'm seeing as far as the shooting in Minneapolis is, the Annunciation Catholic Church and school. And Yeah. I think that might be it. There were fatalities in both buildings.
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Yeah. Well Unfortunate. Another attack on Christianity. You know, this is the the big deal. Satan's coming out and, predicted the course in the Bible. And it's all tied to, something called code the clergy plan. Can you tell us about that, Paul? The clergy plan?
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No. I don't know nothing for that. Wow, man. I sucked.
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This is what's going on. And I've heard this before, but never in the detail like, Harrison went over it this morning here in the, second hour, first hour too, I guess, a bit. This is a guy I I can pronounce his last name. I've never seen it spelled out, but the clergy, I believe. And he had a weird middle name and a weird first name. He was around Europe. I'm not sure what country back in the nineteen twenties wrote a book where the Jews were the master race and the way that they were gonna take over the world would they had to they have to go after the white Christian societies and, break them up or or or disorganize them. You know, what what does Brent say?
For it's confusion in the enemy's camp. Well, we got a lot of confusion in our camp. This is the other side of that. This guy called. I can't spell it. I just kinda know how to pronounce it. You never heard of this, Paul? No. He wrote a book. I can't remember the name of the book. Actually, Hitler took part of his, book thing and called the Nazis the master race. He was calling the Jews the master race. And that they, their their ultimate goal is a thing called the messianic age. Have you ever heard have you ever heard of that? No.
Messianic age? Paul must run off after the giddy. No, hon. No. I'm here. Okay. The Messianic age? Correct. You've never heard of this. This is their ultimate goal. I years ago, Gordon, I attended. I'll tell you what it was. It was a little thing to remember, oh, the guy with the orangutan, everywhere, McQuade McQuade, Every which way but lose and and did that show, that movie with, Clint Eastwood, I believe, about they shot it in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and he had her this orangutan. You you have any vague memories of that? Well, it was a guy him and his bunch, they're Patriot guys. Randy McQuade, is that it? Him and his Patriot guys did a a seminar up in Georgia. They're the ones that were saying that, they gained jurisdiction by having a mailbox on your property.
K? That was one of these things. Oh, yeah. Look. Well, that looks like it connects there. Well, it doesn't. The only thing the federal government owns, so your mail box is the inside of your mail box.
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Outside Randy Quaid.
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Randy Quaid. Thank you, Joan. The the outside, the mailbox, all that is your property. You went and bought it and installed it. But inside that mailbox is the post office's property, federal government's property, and you can't that's why you can't put stuff in people's mailbox. If you had a flyer or something, you can tape it to the outside, but you can't actually put it in the mailbox. And that was their deal. So we, we went up there and, there was a chiropractor from Columbia, South Carolina that was there that had a copy of this book about the messianic age. It was a, it was a book that would they they had found it in the University of Texas library, and, I don't know. There's a part of the library where you can't take books out and stuff like that. And it was in there. It was written by a rabbi, and, he made copies of it. I he actually sent me copies. I've unfortunately lost them along the way.
But that's what their ultimate goal is, called the messianic age, Paul, and that's when they own everything through this usury and then, of course, sucking all the money up with all their scams. And, and, they will take over the world. They will own everything, and each one of them will have 200 of us as their slaves. That's called the messianic age, and that's their, that's their goal ultimately. So he was, clergy was, part of that, mentioned it in what Harrison was reading a little bit this morning. Yeah. These are such rotten bastards. And this is the where my friend's husband, former listeners' Husband was, raised in Chicago, and his father was a doctor. And he had they sent him to, Khalil, which is the synagogue school. And at six years old, he's in there with these other kids, and the rabbi, you're better than everybody else. You're better than everybody else. So that that's this crap here.
I guess if you lie, cheat, steal, and murder and the other people won't do it, does that make you better than them, Paul? I don't know. I guess. In their mind in their mind, I think it might. So regardless, the clergy plan was invading Europe and and the white Christian societies with all these foreigners. You're seeing it play out. That's what all this stuff in Europe's about. And it's been for gosh, how many years has that been going on? Ten years when they we used to see these those hordes of blacks coming up from Africa and marching. They go to Greece, and then they come up and try and get in the soft underbelly of Europe, or else they come to Italy or else they go over in those boats, in the shallow, narrow crossing there at Gibraltar with, Spain.
So that's the clergy plan is all this invasion. He was actually the guy that started the European Union. He had the first vision of all the European countries together, common passports, I guess, common currency, all that. This was this clergy guy. So these are the, the roots of a lot of bad stuff we see going on and are experiencing today, unfortunately. So I was just, here
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yeah. Just ask Paul English what he thinks of the EU and The UK.
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He would just accept or recognize any any of them. Well, I understand Paul and the way he thinks and and stuff like that. And, yeah, it's just, well, and that's another thing I wanted to get on. That's about all I had on the clergy plan to make sure you knew what it was. Yes. There's Bob. Hey, Bob. Morning.
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Good morning. Yeah. A little color commentary. It's not Randy Quaid. In fact, they're not even related. Okay. It's John Quaid. He actually was born near Kansas City and grew up near Topeka. Okay. And, Yeah. He had a pretty good career. Yeah. That wasn't his that was his stage name. That wasn't his given name. But, at any rate, yeah, he was an interesting fellow.
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Well, he was was kinda there, but he just wasn't quite there. You know? He was they he was a lot of paid well, he was on the patriot path. He just didn't have the right little narrow part. And Exactly. Every as I said, for all these years, our whole community has been searching for what's the nexus. What gives that unsecure unelected bureaucrat the power to take existing regulate or or a law and and alter it, and turn it into a regulation and then enforce it on me. What what is that? Where does it come from? And, of course, that's what that's the needle in the haystack that everybody's been looking for. Thank God for John w Benson.
You know? But, yeah, they had a they came across just a second, Larry. They had they, came all the way from California, him and his bunch. And, to do this seminar, it was up in Northeast Georgia as, kind of an unusual place. I don't remember the town it was in, but they took the train. They wouldn't fly because that was we're in the early days of the searching and all that stuff back in the nineties, and they wouldn't fly. So they took the train all the way over and all the way back to my knowledge, to that seminar. And, the one thing I gleaned out of it was this messianic age thing written by a rabbi, of course. Yes, Larry. What do you got this morning?
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Yeah. I've listened to a couple of his, videos, and he, I believe he also taught I I believe he also taught that you should get rid of the, Social Security number because he believed that was what you the term that you use, a nexus to be it free. And I was just wondering, I'm sure you you've heard a lot of these patriot teachers over the years teach the same, if you wanna call it a doctrine, that the Social Security number is what's keeping you in bondage. Where where did that come from, Roger? I have no idea. How about calling it a dogma?
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I I think all of a lot of these look at people are looking for this answer that we've got here, and they see two things that appear to connect like a Social Security number. Oh, everybody's gotta have one. That's what they want you to use on the TAC forms. That's gotta be it. So you see the reasoning there. The logic, as Brent would say, logic is a hork. Well, in this instance, it is a whore because it's wrong. And, but that I don't know where it started, who came up with that first. I just know it doesn't apply because anybody in the world can contract with Social Security.
And, there there is no nexus there, and I can also prove it to you, I think. Get you in a second, Julie. Because when I open you know, if you when you get of retirement age, pension age there, you have to open your account. It's an account that you signed up for that's been feed fed by, you know, half your employer's contributions, although whatever the rules are. But then when you go and collect on it, you gotta actually open that account. And I was in Argentina at the time, and, I actually included my affidavit in with the person I was dealing with at the embassy to open the account. So if there was any nexus going on, it would have shown itself at that point.
Just more patriot mythology, Larry. I mean, hell, we try and combat it around here all the time. Okay? Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. You you still by filing the evidence affidavit of evidence, citizenship evidence, you may be a national. However, if you look at the Supreme Court case, Ashwander versus Tennessee Valley Authority, the Supreme Court looked at seven different tests to determine if you had constitutional rights or not. And, if you've waived your rights in terms of taking benefits and privileges, then you don't have constitutional rights. And one of that was if if you've accepted Social Security and you've accepted a benefit of privilege and you're operating as a minor. Well, I don't even have waived your rights to My benefit
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is a is if I'm came in the country with the migrants and got on Social Security. That's a benefit. I have an account. I contributed to it out of my working years. That ain't no benefit. That comes from the Social Security site, by the way. K? So do more of this stuff. And, hey, Julie. What about the Supreme Court? They can't even agree on what the definition of income is. How about those guys? Yeah.
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Well, that's that's on purpose.
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Well, do you are you sure?
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K. Yeah. I mean, the IRS doesn't know what to ask from a holy grail. They want you to continue to pay taxes. They're gonna confuse you at all at every single Please, Julie. Please. Don't go off on a tangent. The Social Security
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has no nexus to jurisdiction. If so, per you know, I just I'm gonna argue with you all day long. K? Because it doesn't. If there was any nexus to it, it they it would've backlash when you applied your affidavit. When opening my account down there. So, anyway, our stuff works. That stuff doesn't. If you wanna go try it and chase it and try and intellectualize it or see how it fits into this, you'd be my guest. But, there is no next Can I ask you a question?
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Of course. Can I ask you a question? Of course. What about how does the how does the driver's license license fit in for a Resident.
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Resident. Because now you're a federal citizen and driving is not or traveling is not a right. It's called driving, and it is controlled by them because they have a property right in you. And you had to according to the head of the driver's license division in Idaho. Transportation division is the guy that oversees all that. Brian Howard had a, an elongated exchange with them in a suit type situation, administrative appeal. And on the third letter that the guy wrote, Ryan, he came finally admitted, we can't issue a state issued driver's license to anyone who's not a resident. I came from the head guy in the state of Idaho in the transportation division.
The residency ties you back into federal citizenship. See, they've done all these things to tie you back in, to this where they get you to, oh, yeah. I'm a resident. You think it's the wrong thing. You think you live here. It's not. It's political. And you not knowing volunteer that, and they'll give you one. That's what we know for sure.
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K? So, basically, they're using that term resident, equivocation. They're using it dual elite whether it's Of course. You have to ask them whether you're whether it's geographical. So when it comes to the driver's license, it's geographical. And when it comes to the fourteenth amendment, it's your political status. Well, no. It's not geographical. It's political.
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When they ask you, are you a resident before you go through and get a driver's license, It's just like them asking you the two questions. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? They don't say of Virginia, of Massachusetts. Never. They just say, are you a resident? Same thing here.
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Okay.
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Alright. You see you see hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Do you see what I'm talking about, Julie? Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Now there was a guy and a girl. The guy was promised first, so I'm gonna go with him. I'll get you a second. Go ahead, sir.
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It's Christian. Hey,
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man. Alright. Hold on. K. Let me get Christian first here. He stepped forward and identified. Yes, sir?
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I wanna thank you, Roger, for clipping the wings of the Patriot stuff in the past, and you stick to keeping it simple. And and, you know I try. No. You do it. You do it real well. And, I, want to ask you, when I go into the passport, post office and get a passport, do I fill it out there, or do I take it home, fill it out, bring it back? Fill it have it filled out, they're just not signed,
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And then take it in the post office, and you have to sign it in front of that guy. Oh, okay. Alright? Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're very welcome, Christian. Now there was yes. Okay. I think that's Marica. Yes, ma'am.
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Yep. It's me. So what you're explaining is that, the US citizen is trapped into that contract because of the resident and US citizen party.
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Which contract? Oh, we talked about driver's license. We talked about social security. Yeah.
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Okay. Driver's license. Okay. But for us as nationals, we can contract using that driver's license. But it's not we're not we're not acknowledging or, confirming that we are a resident or a US citizen.
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So I just wanted to when you say that? You you did it when you got the license. Now some people have said, like John or some of these other folks, have gotten in there and put, like, key threat du duress coercion, CDC or, yeah, or UCC 1Dash308 or whatever it is now. And put that in there. Some people get away with it evidently. All rights reserved. Yeah. The latest the latest, Jim Ram didn't. Jim Ram, a retired policeman, got that initially on his license. And then, look, a couple of weeks or a little bit later, he pulls into the driveway, and there's some kind of a black car behind him, comes out and ask him for the driver's license and takes it and says you gotta go get another one. K? So some people get caught at it, some people don't. Regardless, there's a couple of things I guess you could do. You could go to the driver's license division after you get your license and send them a copy of your affidavit and just say, I this is something that, I I that I have I have acquiesced to you partially. Well, you you know, sometimes you are driving in compers maybe.
Right? Right. Right. So sometimes you would be using commerce. Sometimes you wouldn't. So there's a lot of fine hairs here. Okay?
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You can type it.
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Go ahead.
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Some some people put all rights reserved,
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as part of their signature. If you can if you can get that, over your over, above, or below your signature without them noticing, good. Try it. I I don't know how successful you'll be. Okay? Regardless Okay. And then I'm gonna go back to freedom and liberty.
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Christian You're gonna successful with using the, acronym, all rights reserved, and I'll tell you why. It it protects you from hidden conditions such as being a resident. In addition to that, having a driver's license while you're a national is not prohibited. You see, if they don't write a law if they don't write a law that says you cannot do it, that means that you can do it. Meaning that you have a dual status, but you need to declare at the time they stop, okay, what that status is and what you're operating in. I'm sorry. I'm operating privately right now. I'm sorry. I'm operating in commercial right now. Here's my driver's license. But, Helen.
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Yes. Go ahead. I was gonna get to that. I was gonna get to that. When Roger was in explaining, I was gonna say, you know, you you as a as a national, you can still contract no matter what. If you're commerce rights are always reserved with your affidavit.
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Yeah. If you're in commerce, you can use your license. And Your, like, your rights are always reserved. And one of the matter what clever things that one of our listeners came up with lately, I don't remember who, but then if you get pulled over like that, you hand them your passport. They said, do you have a driver's license? Says, yes. But I'm not operating in commerce right now.
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Right. Exactly. There's a really good response. Operating in the private. It absolutely works.
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Okay. Well, anyway, I'm just trying to address this, and I forgot where I was. But, anyway, it's, it's one of these things you can maneuver around. As John said years ago, they can't I can't remember how he said it. They they you almost have to have one because you don't wanna face a sub 100 IQ cop with a Glock on his hip on the side of the road. K?
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I I I have a little bit to add to this, but I haven't done the full research on it yet. What we're referring to is what is referred to as a Monel violation. Whereas policy, or a misinterpretation is being followed. And, how this is established is by notice. So if you have a document that declares or declaration that declares that you are a national and you provide that to them, again, there's not much you can do at the side of the road. However, when that gets to court, the Monel is now reviewed in the fact that they have legal notice.
And that legal notice provided at the time of the stop, I mean, I I I carry, title 18 with me. And if I have any problems or if it's, seems to be a a listed stop, I'll just prevent present that and just shut up. And there's That one I've had very good success doing that. Go ahead. Ask you a question the other day. You keep referring to title 18. Title eighteen's criminal. How are you prosecuting a criminal case? I am not prosecuting a criminal case. Title 18 is referred to as positive law, and you've heard that, term a lot. Positive law refers to the prohibitions of government activity.
It does not it is specified in the constitution that they're prohibited to do these things, but they had to codify that if you did these things and prohibit, that is prohibited,
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that it is a criminal act. So that is what's created title 18. And you can't you can't bring a criminal case. Only the government can bring a chem criminal case. Yeah. But you are actually obliged in order to report a title 18. Okay. Well, I can I appreciate that, but you can't bring it? You can threaten them with it, but you can't hold their feet to the fire with it.
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You can't. But in Monel, they are forced in order to hold their feet to the fire themselves. That's the beauty of Monel.
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Okay? Never heard I've never heard that before. I've never heard that before. I've never heard that before. M o n m o n. Hold on. M o n e l l, and it's called the Monel doctrine.
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Okay. And, you will want to combine that with the absurdity doctrine. Okay? It's called the absurdity doctrine. You can, look this up. It I have just completed a fifty day crash, third level year, lawyer, application for this in a in a lawsuit that I'm working on. So, and it dates back eighteen years for Mummel violations. It's a $42,000,000 lawsuit. I won't get that, but, I mean, it's justified at $42,000,000. And, it's been accepted by the court already. So,
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What what case did this doctrine come from? Obviously, it was Monel was one of them. Do you have Well, it works. It's it's the same thing as, somebody putting up no photography at a police department.
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Who had the authority in order to bypass the constitution and the first amendment? Well They policy. They they have It's it's policy. That's correct. Okay. Tennessee meeting. They and and they decided that they can just simply come to your house and put a 12 foot fence around it and force you to ID every time you leave and come to your house. Obviously, that's wrong. How is it wrong? Well, that's the Monel doctor. Okay? That they can't make these, fantasy policies that they want to enforce even if they place it within the statutes.
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Okay. Well, it's totally new, new law to me. Sounds good, though. So, anyway, back to, back to what we were on the driver's license thing. It's a sticky wicked
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yes.
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Go ahead. Never mind.
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Well, no. You go ahead because now I've lost my train of thought. Go ahead.
[00:32:17] Unknown:
Yeah. You were talking about driver's licenses. Julie Julie came up with, I forget what it was already, but I wanted to include contracting with if you've already paid into unemployment of your state, a national should still be able to collect unemployment. Correct?
[00:32:35] Unknown:
I think so. I would think so. The just barring you from would be discrimination, wouldn't it?
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You can't be try that. Not be obstructed
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please.
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In in commerce. You cannot be obstructed from that. These elements of commerce are part of that, so therefore, you're entitled to it. It's not a benefit. It's not a a waiver of your rights. Now in there is some, public aid that you can receive that has for your children, and they have embedded illicit things like, well, we can walk in. If you get public aid and you're getting food stamps for your kids, we can come and inspect your house anytime we want. Well, obviously,
[00:33:17] Unknown:
that's wrong, but they have attempted to do that, and that's where this dogma of of permission is coming from. Well, I think if they're giving you money for something on your children, they've got every right to come in and inspect as being used correctly, don't they?
[00:33:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Otherwise, they would be complicit in child abuse or child neglect.
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So Not at all. Where's the burden of proof?
[00:33:41] Unknown:
The burden that you you received the benefit, you owe the duty. If they're giving you money for something, they have Alan, can you let me finish, please? Yeah. Go ahead. If they're giving you a benefit for something, then they have the, you have the duty or they have the right to come in there and check and make sure it's being used correctly. You receive the money. You it tacitly agreed to that formula.
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You passively agreed.
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Tacently. Tacently.
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Well, here's the problem with that. Even if they have that in writing, they have to have a burden of proof to violate everything above it. I'm sure. Contract
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when you sign to take the money that that's all in there.
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It isn't. Well, it is, but it isn't. It's not it's not authorized.
[00:34:31] Unknown:
Well, it's a it's a it's about the same thing as ours, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. It's a very similar formula. They're just using different words.
[00:34:41] Unknown:
It's based on a hierarchy of of, statute. One one high one statute will outweigh another, and your right to privacy and freedom, whether receiving that benefit, is a higher higher, statute than,
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their not a third citizen in The United States.
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Comment. Go ahead. Okay. Before this I'm lost here. Completely before this goes completely off the rails, when you apply for public assistance, it is in the contract that they have the right to, do home visits and to verify that, they are paying for a space that is livable and that is suitable for in for to be inhabited. And you waive your right to privacy when you sign on the dotted line and take money.
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I agree with you. It's a nonstarter,
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dude.
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Bob?
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Don't make it so complicated. Have you heard of this thing called the feudal system?
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Yes. Everybody, man.
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Everybody wants basis of the program. Don't argue about the minutiae. You're in the feudal system.
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Everybody wants to complicate stuff, folks. K? I simplify
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it, please. Haven't rebutted the when you haven't rebutted the presumption, you're under their jurisdiction, get it through your head.
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So anyway May I say something, Roger? Yes. Who's this married? Is this married?
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Yeah.
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Remarry.
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Well, your discussion on, you know, basically, when you're accepting privileges and benefits, which technically I am because yesterday I had my home visit. Okay. She came to have me sign paperwork for Danielle's Danielle's program Right. Which is state funded right now because her federal CILO funding is frozen, meaning she's not in a group home anymore. She is now home. Right. I am caring for her. So access services in Illinois, my husband is the employer. Danielle is the client. I'm the employee. Okay? Because we're tax exempt. Okay? But there's a crap ton of rules that you have to sign because I am operating in the public. Yep. And because you're taking the funds. Operate correct. I'm taking the money. So, I mean, it it it is what it is, and you can learn to operate in the public and in the private.
You can learn to do that. This is why I was so scared to do this process because she cannot lose this program. And I was afraid because of how it's set up, and they do have the right to come in my home whenever they feel like it. Yes. They had a DCFS came to the house and inspected the bathroom to make sure that it was handicap accessible, to make sure her bedroom is handicap accessible, and the house is clean.
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Yep. You receive the benefit. You owe the duty.
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Yep. I did. Yep. I have a duty to and it it is in this contract because I'm reading it right now. Yep. There you go. Yield. Okay. Thank you, Bill. Roger.
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Murica.
[00:37:58] Unknown:
Bill Thornton goes into, being a, private individual and being a US citizen sometimes. So he uses the benefit of being a US citizen whenever he needs it and then goes back to the private when, you know, when he's done with it. Let's go back to the driver's license where this whole round robin started. K?
[00:38:22] Unknown:
Yep. You can be a national, still have a driver's license because maybe you've got a job, you know, like Tom Schramm used to be on here. He he's big fisherman, and he'd go out and trap minnows and go sell them to bait stores.
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K?
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And so when he was driving to go fishing, he was not in commerce. But when he went and trapped a bunch of shiner minnows and had them in the back of his car and was taken to sell them to a bait shop, he was in commerce. K? So you can be a national and still be that. I'm just saying there's a differentiation and there's a time when that could apply to you. It might not, but it may. So these are all these stick look. Get a driver's license, register your car, and and drive below the damn speed limit. Don't don't run stop signs. Don't run red lights.
[00:39:22] Unknown:
K? The only reason I I I don't have a driver's license, Roger. I the only reason I would use a driver's license is if I was in commerce. For me, either, you know, trying to understand traveling, you know, driving in the private. You have to understand everything that you're doing. Well, look. Where where all that stands?
[00:39:46] Unknown:
You you could come up with two pages of court sites on supreme court, appellate court, state court, all that saying that driving is a is a privilege and and all these other things. Yeah. You go put that in front of a damn judge, and he ain't gonna recognize it. So if you wanna fight that battle, go ahead. I suggest there's other bigger buy battles to fight. Now we had a very positive outcome where that doesn't apply. Just this week with Shane on Monday, it was to regurgitate Sean. Shane is a to regurgitate the deal. He, him and his wife got pulled over several times.
Seems to me they took his passport card one time. He drove. He backed out of a traffic stop and got into a high speed chase with him, several different incidents there they had over several years. And finally, he's in the middle of all the court stuff and he goes, well, hell, I'm just gonna call the sheriff. Calls the sheriff. I'd like to sit down and explain this to you and show you what's going on. The sheriff is open. Maybe that's the time we're in where there's so much confusion and so much contradiction that people even in that capacity are looking for answers. I don't know that's the case, but it could be. Okay? I know there's lots of people that are looking for answers right now. Alright? So he's open to it. And Sean and his wife go in there and explain what we're doing to him, and he drops all the charges that have been compiled over years.
So there is a there is a a pony in the stocking, I guess, if you keep your arm down in there long enough. You know?
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There's another call. And you have to understand the difference between public and and private.
[00:41:30] Unknown:
I got all kinds of calls. You want me to go should I go answer it? Okay. Y'all y'all continue here. Let me get rid of it. Roger? Yeah. Hold on, Boris. I got I got phone calls coming in, man. If I can mute this stupid thing, which I can't.
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Yeah.
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Oh, wouldn't you know
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wouldn't you know if they hang up? Damn it. Paul.
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I'm So so, Roger, I was I was saying that, you know, it's up to us to understand the difference between public and private. We're in the private. Okay. And then we have to understand what what stands, in our protection under natural law, in common law. Okay. Even though you are in commerce, sometimes,
[00:42:22] Unknown:
you know, you you're still protected. Just please drive under the speed limit. Unless you just want to go through a period of time where you're dealing with all this court crap. If you really thrive on that, will you go do it? Okay? But my experience is you may win. You may get like Sean did. But for the but they've stolen years of his life to get that. Now was that worth it in that instance? Yeah. Maybe so. But for most people, it's not. But if you wanna do it, you go do it. You go ahead and learn for yourself. Okay? I'm just telling you, it's just what an old patriot told me years ago.
Only choose the battles to fight that you know you can win. That's one you don't know you can win. Roger? Yes. Is that Samuel?
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Yeah. It's it's my understanding if you're gonna make a Get off on this track.
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Crap.
[00:43:25] Unknown:
Go ahead. A claim through if you're gonna make a claim, I think, under the Monnell doctrine, you have to reside in that community. So it just puts yourself back in jurisdiction the way I look at it. No. Well, they're not talking. That's a geographical
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definition. We're talking about a political definition. So I'd go in there and say, who wrote this law? Who which one which definition are you applying? Because this isn't geographical. This is political. They really use they really, really have this system fine tuned with all this crap. I I think I I
[00:44:12] Unknown:
I think I understood what he said is the fact that if you are claiming a Mongell violation that it would be only in the commercial sense. That's not true. Absolutely not true. He was talking to no. He was talking about being a resident in the community, Alan.
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He wasn't talking about commerce, I don't think.
[00:44:33] Unknown:
Well, the if you're a resident, it it it that would be irrelevant because, Monel actually applies to international law as well. It's it's sweeping. It doesn't matter what topic that you pick up. It's a it's an illicit policy, and it's a it's a doctrine in order to, get rid of an interpretation rather than a statue.
[00:44:56] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it's something that we've no. Nobody here before today, I don't think, has ever heard of this. So, we're totally new and onto it, but maybe, may not be. K? I've just never heard of it before, Alan. K? So you say it says in there, did you look at something,
[00:45:22] Unknown:
Well, yeah. I everything that they're doing, like, since the thirties, the rules of federal Why I ask about I wanna ask about Manel. And and everything else is important. Answering
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yeah. Go ahead.
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Have I answered? Have you studied it? Are you have you studied this? Have you heard of it before?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So in that, what you of this stuff is aligned with international law. The rules of federal procedure are to get us to a new world order. Staying in their system is a trap. We need to use use this national status
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and understand how to enforce it and not go into their system. Okay. I was gonna ask you if you're familiar with Bunnell here. It says you have to be a resident of your community.
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I'm pretty sure you have to if you wanna make make that claim. Well, we can't go in. It's a 78 it's a 78 Supreme Court case that that is often brought up when there's police abuse and things like this that Alan's concerned about. But I think you're just you you you're you're ruining your own national status by taking on a claim like that because you have to reside in that community or you don't have any reason for a claim. Okay.
[00:46:44] Unknown:
Again, you're please. Please. Please. Please. Damn it. Please. You say reside in the community. That is a geographical definition, not a political one.
[00:47:00] Unknown:
I think the the presumption is both.
[00:47:04] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So we got opposite definitions again. Okay. Let's drop this, please. If that's the point we're at in this discussion, then nobody knows anything about this, really.
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Hey, Rod.
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Roger. Actually, I just did a a GPS search on it for generalization, and it does recognize that the, national has full access to Monell because Monell is any action by the government. Any action by the government can be, questioned under the Monell, and it wouldn't matter whether you were a resident or not.
[00:47:39] Unknown:
Okay. Larry, do you have some something you've been searching this?
[00:47:46] Unknown:
Yeah. So getting back to the state of Utah where the student, that you often tell the story about was asking to get a driver's license, and they were asking if you're a resident of the state. I believe that's
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that It was Idaho.
[00:48:03] Unknown:
Was it Idaho? I thought it was Utah. No. It was Idaho. Okay. Alright. Let me get get back to looking at something then. I thought it was Utah. No. It's Idaho. If we were using Utah, I think a lot of times they're asking for a geographical definition because I looked up Utah and says to prove your Utah residency, you must provide present two of the following documents dated within ninety days. And it gives, like, a bank statement, court documents.
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Right.
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It's a geographic and then we go and and I guarantee you if you look down a couple of paragraphs, there should be a sentence that says residency is a rebuttable presumption.
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Yeah. I I found that,
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in Georgia for you that one time, and it's in a couple of other states. Well, that's because all the traffic law okay. Here, lesson time. That's because all of these traffic laws are called uniform. If they're uniform, they're the same in every state. That's so they can control from the top down. Go ahead.
[00:49:12] Unknown:
Right. So if we were talking about Utah, I went to their their DMV website, and, they're saying that you have to provide documentation according to four categories. And the first category they call the US citizen, says required documentation for US citizen, US nationals, and permanent resident aliens, then they need, four documents, from the following three categories. And, so anyway, category one, you gotta show you gotta show, different documentation, approve your identity. They they'll take an unexpired US passport, a certified copy of a birth certificate, a consular report, valid unexpired permanent resident alien card, certificate of naturalization, certificate of citizenship issued by DHS, And then category two, they need your social security number. So if you will provide either a w two or a pay stub, they got a couple of other documents. Category three, Utah address, two of the following displaying your name, address, and date it within ninety days, and they say you could provide a bank statement, a court document, a current mortgage or rental contract, major credit card bill, school transcript, a utility bill, vehicle title. I think what they're looking for is according to a a geographical definition as in terms of residence in the state of Utah.
[00:50:48] Unknown:
Not quite. That's in every state. Every state has those requirements in their traffic code because they are, once again, because they're uniform. Same as the uniform building code. Same as the uniform commercial code. Same as anything that's uniform is in every state, at least similarly has the same information in there. This is so they can control from the top down.
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Hey, Raj.
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Yes, Paul.
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Just about everything he mentioned just about everything he mentioned is, indicative of the receipt of a benefit. You know, a school, school record or, and I forget what other things he mentioned. But if if you receive the benefit, you owe the duty. So those proofs of identity prove that you're a citizen of The United States in receiving federal or state benefits.
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It didn't I guess. Doesn't get any clearer than that. How do we always get off on this traffic crap?
[00:52:08] Unknown:
How does this apply to a person that is coming here? They're they're nonresident. They just got here, and yet they have all these wonderful benefits, without any obligation to uphold.
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I think that's because the communist that's because the communists were in charge. Yeah. K?
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I,
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what the old Bob Seager thing? We we break every rule that'll bend?
[00:52:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey. Hey, Alan. Please go into your Zoom configuration and turn off automatically adjust levels on your microphone. Because when you first unmute, you get super loud and then it corrects. So just turn that automatic stuff off, please. Thank you. May I may I? Yes, ma'am. You may. Sure. As long as you're gonna change the subject.
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Yes, please. Who are we speaking to?
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This is Nancy. Oh, Nancy. Nancy from Virginia. Hey, girl. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Well, it's it is a question for clarity around the term residence and resident, because, you know, I think it was last week I brought up, from my county, their, it's not a summons for jury service, but a questionnaire. And on there and I I read these, but I'm I'm still in the question about this. It does you know, Virginia is different. Like, with the voter registration and this here, evidently, they ask if I'm a citizen of The United States Of America. Yeah. Which is an s y m. Yes.
Right. And yeah. So that's but, listening to some other things around resident, I think and please correct me if I'm, I don't have this correct. Is the term they've dropped the the term itself resident, they've dropped alien from it. So it always means As from Patel's law of nations,
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yes.
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So if we're not talking about a colloquial use of the term or geographical, because this is something that I have to sign, you know, and test attest it as true. So it's a legal definition whenever they ask me about my residency. Like, I am are, have I been a resident of Henrico County County, and have I been a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia for the past twelve months and six months respectively? So it's a legal term. And isn't it is it not true that it's tied, of course, to the fourteenth amendment res residency in the state wherein they reside as a I'm no longer a federal fourteenth amendment citizen, so I'm not residing
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anywhere. Question. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. You are residing somewhere. See if you could figure this out. Where is your residency?
[00:55:04] Unknown:
Well, I'm a citizen of Virginia. Mhmm. But the term residency is a temporary nature. I domicile here.
[00:55:14] Unknown:
Right. You're not you the way they're applying this term is from is from ambassadorial law. Remember that. They do a head fake on the geographical part, and they may use it in there sometimes. I haven't seen every paper from every damn state in the union. I've been out of the country for seventeen damn years. Okay? But the that's the origination of it. And if you look deep enough on the Internet, you'll find that. But you gotta really search down two or three levels to find it. Okay? So that's the way they're the term is underneath being used. So your residency is what, Nancy? It's where you receive your rights and discharge your duties, isn't it?
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Correct. I mean, well,
[00:56:04] Unknown:
I don't know. On the first law, they imply first in the first law in the first black law dictionary.
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Does doesn't a residency imply a temporary state?
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In the first black law dictionary under residency or residence, it says where you stay to receive your benefits and discharge your duties. That's your residence. So you filed your paperwork. Where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties?
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Well, god.
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So your residency is in heaven, isn't it?
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It is.
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Okay. Well, there's your answer.
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Okay.
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That's that would be under natural law. Right, Roger? Sure.
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Well, if you if you're not, then you're claiming to be a resident, you're under the fourteenth amendment. If you file this paperwork, you come out of that, you're under God's laws with constitutional protections. That's where you get your capital r rights and o your capital d duties. So that should mean, according to all these things that are lawful and legal, that your residency is in heaven. I I kinda like the sound of that. Roger, the You know what? I figured this out on a plan. From that. Go go ahead.
[00:57:25] Unknown:
The protections are from God. They're under natural law. Yes. They're secured by this by the constitution. Correct. They're secured by the organic constitution.
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Correct.
[00:57:37] Unknown:
I figured this out, Nancy, when I was government. In Argentina. And, I wanted to go up to Doug Casey's deal up in Northern Argentina. And it used to be before that time, you'd have to fly to Buenos Aires and then fly back to north of where you were. And they had a flight that they instituted where you could go from where I was up to where I wanted to go without going through VA. So I decided to do that. And, on that plane, they give you these little papers. You You know, if you've I don't know if you've flown internationally or not, but if you do, they give you these little papers on, are you bringing any fruit and all this stuff. And one of the questions they ask you is, where's your residency? And that's what started me thinking about this originally, and I thought that through and came up with the answer I just gave you and the audience here. So, and I think that's very accurate. Alright? So if they ask you and you where's your residency? And, like, I'm I've got a residency in heaven right now because I have don't have a residency in The US, and I don't have a residency in Argentina, and I don't have a residency in Ecuador.
So my my residence is still heaven too. Well, that's pretty cool. No wonder they don't want no wonder they don't want you to know this information. Well, hold on. I'm having a conversation with Nancy. Let's get back to that. Okay? Okay. Alright. Nancy, do you understand that? I'm pretty sure that's your situation too.
[00:59:14] Unknown:
Yes. Well, that that it really helps to clarify because, I when I see the word resident now and I'm signing something legally, I know it's a legal definition, and it ties back to the fourteenth amendment, and I'm not that. So I wanted I'm think what I will do is draft, a letter Okay. Which I'll attach to this
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cost. I'm gonna give you a reference. Hold on. Here. Nancy, hold on. Back off.
[00:59:42] Unknown:
We're gonna go ahead and be on WVOU for the next hour. So, I don't have to do that.
[00:59:49] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Alan. We don't have to do that. Paul, you're you're discharged for today. Okay. Back to Nancy. Go go have a beer somewhere. We're, back to Nancy here. And what I wanted to tell you is, something you may want to use in your response. You may have to do just a little bit of research. Okay? Go to a law library, and you wanna find a group of books called words and phrases. Just ask the library, and those points you to it. Okay? Okay. Now that is a collection of law books where they take important keywords and phrases out of court cases the way they've been used and applied, and they give you a glossary of them.
Okay? So what I would like for you to do is to go to words and phrases and go look up the word resident.
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K?
[01:00:49] Unknown:
Whenever you I don't know what all will be in there, but I know one that was in it when I looked at this years ago. Whenever the term resident is used in any legal context, its definition is always legal. Words and phrases, resident. Go look it up. Okay. Alright? And then when you get that, you can use that or anything else you find in there, in your, in whatever you're gonna write them. K? Alright. Very good. Good. Now there was another female trying to say something Right here. You know? And I don't think it sounds like a female right there. Yes, Sherry. Go ahead.
[01:01:37] Unknown:
Well, it's very interesting. I have flown internationally, and they use the term duty free shopping.
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Yes.
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And that word duty free. You owe no duty.
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That's right. And just when we well, I'll give you an example. We had a a airport about 10 miles away from me here. You have a duty freeze area. And so you get in the airport, you're going to your plane, and you can buy stuff. Or when you get where your destination is, you can access these stores, and you don't have to pay the state tax and stuff on them. So that's what you're talking about. Right? Correct.
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But I have a question. What prompts that is that the residency question because I never considered it. It was 2005
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and I I 2000 I have and six.
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I have no idea. It's a Wouldn't you think it precedes it, though? And the word resident applies worldwide.
[01:02:39] Unknown:
Yes. That's why I say it's the key word in the whole new world order scheme. Because every country wants you to be a Absolutely. Okay?
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Mhmm.
[01:02:48] Unknown:
Why? So you Why do they want you to be a resident? So they can be you owe the duty. No. Because then you're under their laws, and you've agreed to it.
[01:03:00] Unknown:
Correct. And so what people have to bear in mind, when you say you are a resident of a county, whether you're thinking is juris geographical or legal, all counties are political subdivisions. So your county sheriff or your coroner, whoever is the highest Uh-huh. Head of that county, it's always political, and they can overcome. And and if you choose to be a resident of your county,
[01:03:33] Unknown:
it's a political choice, and I yield. Okay. Well, the if you go by that court case that I saw there in words and phrases years ago, anytime the word resident is used in any legal context, its definition is always legal. Okay? Well, that's not local. That day day day you know, when they're asking you, you know, you know, because they don't ask you that in this federal document. They'll never ask you if you're a resident of a state or an area. They ask you just if you're a resident. K? Keep it keep it very vague. So but if that definition from the court applies, so anytime they even use it in state documents, it's still legal. It still pertains to the fact that you're under the laws Washington DC then, doesn't it?
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Yes. It's still political. Okay. We have to correlate political
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and legal. Not and not geographical. And you see in the traffic Correct. They've got a mix. Here, if you've been in the state ninety days, you got all this proof and that stuff Larry read us a minute ago, then you're a resident. And then there's another paragraph in Georgia anyway of stipulations. And then underneath that, there's one sentence. The term resident is a rebuttable presumption. And if you follow through in those earlier ones in that paragraph, then you have, volunteered into the presumption, haven't you? Haven't you?
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Correct.
[01:05:03] Unknown:
Okay. So it is it is a very tricky word, and, and I've maintained for years if anybody wants to do an etymology, a search on the word, whenever you find where they dropped alien from Vatel's resident alien, you'll probably find the origins of this plan. Nobody's ever taken me up on it yet, but I'll brought you. If somebody did, that's what you'd find, the origins of this little scheme here. I have something, Roger, too. Built built on the fact that don't forget and this is for Todd. I don't know if Todd's with us. We hadn't heard from him today or not. But years ago, five, six years ago, we found a book on Bitshoot. You can probably still a talking book where they read it in on exactly what we're talking about here, voluntary servitude, and it was written in 1577.
This is not a new idea. K? Yes. Mirka and somebody else wanted to say something. I'll get you second, Samuel. Go ahead, Mirka.
[01:06:11] Unknown:
Roger, you know how you say, it's, international, the resident the word resident?
[01:06:18] Unknown:
Well, I know every country uses it. Part of the
[01:06:22] Unknown:
it's for the, they're trying to use it for the new world order. I've seen cases where they talk about US citizens, and I think also including residents as federal citizens. So it's because people are participating in the federal system, and it's making that that's what they're trying to impose is control over the federal citizens. They're trying to get you to individual, but
[01:06:52] Unknown:
They're trying to continue They're trying to get you to continue to reinforce your your presumption. Oh, are you this? Yep. That's me again. Or next next week, I gotta say, are is this you again? Yeah. It's me again. And all they're doing is reinforcing the presumption that's already established.
[01:07:12] Unknown:
Right. The federal citizen that they're trying to control the federal citizens, which they're imposing on the private
[01:07:18] Unknown:
at the same time. Yeah. Okay. There's another female there. Who was it? Ma'am? You wanna step forward? Than me right here. Some Samuel was weaned too. Samuel?
[01:07:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I just have one basic question, Roger. You know, if you take the resident that's in the fourteenth amendment and, you know, they wanna say that fourteenth amendment is is merely a legal framework. Well, in practicality, it's both political and geographic, isn't it?
[01:07:55] Unknown:
Well, I I'll I'll go back to the what I read in words and phrases so many years ago, Samuel. Anytime the word resident is used in any legal context, its definition is always legal. That comes from some court decision. Don't remember which one.
[01:08:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And they're placing you in The United States. I mean, I I see all the stuff that follows. I mean, everything is based on that stinking amendment.
[01:08:20] Unknown:
You know? Everything. Everything they've fallen ever since. Under the first clause. We've never even gone into any of the other clauses on this show in fifteen years. You don't need to. Because of the clause and we understand it, everything following in the fourteenth amendment applies to who? Fourteenth amendment citizens. Yeah. Why would we go into the rest of it?
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So when you're when you use their system to protect yourself within their system, you have to be one of their subjects.
[01:08:58] Unknown:
Or else they don't have the jurisdiction. Subject to jurisdiction subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And Yeah. Yep. It's a tricky little deal, boy. The more you get into this, you get into these discussions and this line of thinking, you go, holy smokes. These guys are slick. They're just slick. Now they had this thought out originally over a hundred and fifty years ago back in the time of civil war, I believe. But, yeah, we didn't get to the clergy plan until 1925. More solidification of their little scheme. It played right into their corner. Hey, Roger.
Hey hey, Wahi. I gotta get back to Bory in a minute here. Yeah, Wahi?
[01:09:52] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Was that Boris? But, anyway, I'm I was thinking it's like a labyrinth.
[01:09:58] Unknown:
It is a labyrinth. It's like a damn maze, you know, that you put a mouse into. It's just in henceforth, the I mean, look at the proof is in the pudding. How many decades did it take for somebody to figure this out? Four or five decades? Six decades? And people started questioning in the late fifties as they started getting everything set up and completed. And then into the seventies and you get the none dog none dog call it none dare call it conspiracy and the Gary North books and the other stuff that started the original patriot movement, I guess. But, it's taken us fifty years to figure it out.
Forty.
[01:10:39] Unknown:
Roger?
[01:10:40] Unknown:
Julie. No. Yeah. I gotta get back to boarding in a minute. Go ahead.
[01:10:45] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to ask you. So then how do you answer that question on some sort of application or something if it says, are you a resident of Arkansas, or are you a resident of California? How are you talking to your parents?
[01:10:57] Unknown:
I've never I've never seen them ask that question.
[01:11:02] Unknown:
Well, I've seen them ask questions like, are you a resident of such and such county before?
[01:11:08] Unknown:
Well, then the the I think, the you you wanna go back and ask them the question? Are you using this in a geographical or political, definition? I Julie, I don't know. Okay? I just say all I know is the minute you say you're a resident, it's gonna be applied. It ain't you live here. It's what set of laws are you under to my knowledge. Roger, I know Boris is gonna come in, but I wanna explain Well, I don't know if he's ever gonna come in. We can't get to him. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sure after after he goes I wasn't done, Martha. Alright. Go ahead, Julie.
[01:11:49] Unknown:
Yes. So did you say what set what set of laws are you under? You said so that means what set of laws are you under? Well, if we're nationals, which means we owe a a duty to the state, then aren't we under our state laws of the national?
[01:12:04] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, you're under God's laws and constitutional protections. Any state laws that are written for residents don't apply to you.
[01:12:14] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you for clarifying me clarifying that to me. That's what I wanted to know. Thank you. It's a tricky little word because nobody understands the definition.
[01:12:24] Unknown:
I'll bet you can't find one damn attorney in in the country who understands the correct definition of the word resident. I'd be willing to bet you can't find one. So now you're fighting. See the it's the same old story. We go in here. We've got to reeducate these people.
[01:12:48] Unknown:
Roger, you need to ask your friend, your attorney friend there in, Argent or not Argentina, Ecuador
[01:12:55] Unknown:
what the definition of resident is. Well, I he was, I don't have our I don't have a a lawyer friend here. I had a lawyer in Argentina who's very sharp, and I Oh, okay. Don't have contact with him anymore, unfortunately. Oh. But I don't have to ask him to give you the information.
[01:13:12] Unknown:
Who brought forward
[01:13:14] Unknown:
He was a he wouldn't be the final word on it. You can do the research No. But he understood the definition of person, and maybe he did. But I doubt if he understood this. I doubt if he understood this. This is a a term that I guarantee of you. You could go in front of judges they don't know. This is more of the skullduggery of our enemy right here.
[01:13:37] Unknown:
I've got the definition if you wanna hear it.
[01:13:41] Unknown:
Okay. Go ahead.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
The meaning depends on tax, voting, domicile, jurisdiction. It changes in each one of these. Yeah. Immigration law, it changes. It, says non resident noncitizen who is legally granted the privilege residing
[01:14:01] Unknown:
in The US. As a green card holder.
[01:14:05] Unknown:
H, USC one one zero one a 20. The status includes green card eligible for naturalization, can be removed only for cause. Tax law, it has a completely different meaning. It means, pass the green card test or substantial president's test in a hundred and eighty three days over a three year look back. If you've been in The US for over a hundred and eighty three days over a period of three years, you are considered a resident. Someone who physically resides in a state with the intent, and this is domicile law, voting eligibility. And each one of these definitions, depending on its application, has been terribly euthanized.
I I
[01:14:57] Unknown:
yield. It's a very tricky word. They have intentionally I'll give you the perfect example of what started this conversation about an hour or something ago is the driver's license. Blackstone's definition I don't guess Todd's with us because he hasn't responded today. If you go back and I if I was to ask some of your new students Real quick, Roger? Yes, ma'am.
[01:15:25] Unknown:
Todd is, battling a sciatic nerve issue really badly. So he's trying to take care of that. He's been in the last couple days. I'm sure sorry. I'm sure sorry. We need we need to talk to Todd about getting one of these wands.
[01:15:39] Unknown:
That sounds like something he would want to try. It's very, very good on anything, nerve oriented. So we'll talk to him about that when he comes around. Okay. Now I just want to let you guys know. Okay. Well, what I was trying to get to and have been for a little bit, especially for you new new folks, Mary, is this term freedom and liberty and how it relates to the driver's license. If I was to ask all of you, especially the new ones, is could you write me a paragraph on what freedom and liberty is? Well, there's no telling what you'd get. You know? Long paragraph page, two pages. But Blackstone in his commentaries and the brilliance of Blackstone was he reduced this down to one word, and liberty is locomotion.
The ability to go from point a to point b unimpeded. That's liberty. Interesting definition, one word, locomotion. See, that's what they're doing with the driver's license is they're impeding the, diminution of your liberty because you've gotta come in and say you're a resident, which means you're volunteering under the fourteenth amendment. That means that if you wanna put it another way, when you tell them you're a resident and a driver's license application, it triggers and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Because if you're subject to the jurisdiction thereof, you're either a citizen of United States or a state wherein you reside in or is in there.
K? So there by volunteering into that subliminally, subconsciously, and under the surface, you're going in and saying, yeah. I'm under the fourteenth amendment. So you see how slick Do you see how slick these people have got this set up? I mean, it it is really that's why I've said for many years, no no mere mortals that has set this up. This is and Brent said that one day at the close. Of course, Brent and I have been going back and forth on this for as long as we've been on the air. Okay? And the other day, we're closing out a show. What did Brent say?
[01:17:54] Unknown:
Damn it. Yeah.
[01:17:57] Unknown:
Oh, Brent says, he says, I don't think they're that smart. I said, Brent, it wasn't them. This is old scratch here. K? That I I they they conjure up your devil to come up with these damn schemes, folks. I'm 100% sure of that in my own opinion. Yes. He was the, hey, Roger. Boris, I'll get you We never got back to Who was the who no. It was this guy right here.
[01:18:25] Unknown:
Lori was waiting in on our Facebook page. I know. You could call me Joseph.
[01:18:29] Unknown:
Hello, Joseph. My question I think we can kinda piggyback on what you're saying right now is Joseph, is this the first time to be Joseph, can I stop you for a second? Is this the first time we've spoken? Yes, sir. Okay. Well, how'd you find us? And, where are you located in the country?
[01:18:52] Unknown:
I'm in Arizona, and I was contacted or I contacted, Fifth Flow. Okay. I don't know who they are. I don't know who's their first name, but it's f I f. Yeah.
[01:19:09] Unknown:
Well, I thank him for sending you to us, Joseph. Nice to meet you. Now what what was your query here?
[01:19:17] Unknown:
Yeah. My curiosity was about the letter to Rubio. And so if perhaps you can ground in for me the idea of what were what do we wanna include in the letter to Rubio and what would you good not to include in the ready in the letter. And then how does that how does that maybe, connect with the resident?
[01:19:39] Unknown:
Well, you're you're disclaiming that residency even though you had earlier. Every time you've ever had been asked in your life, they said, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Right? And you signed something. So you have agreed with their fraud every time they've ever asked you in your entire life, and that's what you're removing yourself from here. K? The cover letter you're Right. To Rubio is very simple. Just say, please find something to this effect. Please find the enclosed citizenship affidavit, a citizenship evidence affidavit. It's important that you use those words to me because that's how they identify an affidavit like this internally at the state department.
Citizenship evidence. Please find the enclosed citizenship evidence affidavit. Please correct any and all records concerning my political status in changing from a citizen of The United States to a national. I'm just giving you suggestions off the top of my head here. Okay? Please adjust your records accordingly and sign it. It's nothing involved. It's very simple. They know what this is. Mhmm. So you're not explaining anything to them that they don't know. They know the implications of it too. At least some of them do. So that's very simple, and you'll wanna get that off.
And then you don't have any skeletons in your closet, do you?
[01:21:16] Unknown:
I do not. And so if you would, how do you tie in and why why don't you answer if they ask, are you a resident, why don't you say I'm a national? Well Wouldn't that trump?
[01:21:28] Unknown:
Well, are you talking about when they ask you those questions in some sort of a loan application or something? They don't ask you. They're not gonna ask you. You're you're declaring what you are. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. So you're thinking you gotta ask permission. You're the boss now.
[01:21:45] Unknown:
You tell them what you No. No. No. They're not gonna ask. Not. But what I'm thinking is these, these Leos who are on the side of the road, when you're talking about the license is really where I wanna tie this in because that's Don't you don't wanna don't fight that battle. We're a lot of this. No. Don't fight that battle on the side of the road with another IQ cop with a block. I agree.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
Okay? I agree. Nice. You do whatever. You sure do whatever. He may be amenable. He may not. There's some of them, I guess, are. Then say don't try, but don't argue and get into don't try the case on the side of the road. That is not the outcome will not be good.
[01:22:27] Unknown:
Yeah. So my my train my train of thought here because I've I've dealt with this. I I had this issue, in Florida, and I went to court for almost a year for it. Oh, yeah. A lot of fun. A lot of fun, wasn't it? You know, the judge wasn't Yeah. Wasn't that a lot of fun? The judge was not fun. Okay. No. And, it cost me more than, I would say it was worth learning, but but it was a good lesson. You know? I mean, anyway, at any rate, I don't have a license, and it would be a penalty of perjury if I was to go get a license because I'm not interested in doing commerce. And in that sense, what I'm my train of thought here, what I'm trying to ask is use the national status as some sort of trump card to override, this idea of the framework around the resident. We would do that. I agree that we shouldn't argue on the side of the road. But Correct.
[01:23:27] Unknown:
What we do usually try here is just point somebody in a direction to where you'll go ahead and interface with the court, but you interface with them on an administrative level. In other words, you would take you take a copy of ticket, all that stuff. Best to do it within three days because you might can even void it in three days. There's a school of of thought here that people say you can do that as part of an administrative appeal, and you submit your affidavit and everything. Although you've already put them on notice, so you haven't even gotten to that part of our program yet. But here in this specific situation, you would go and try and do this administratively by paperwork and see if they don't just dismiss it. K? So you may get that successful. You may not. You see, here's my problem with all of this Yeah. Is I can't give you a definite answer as to who the sitting judge is and who the sheriff is in your county or where you got this ticket. It may be judge Roy Bean and Boss Hogg, the sheriff.
And if that's right, they don't want some young punk like you coming in and telling them what their duties are and what they can and cannot do. So I can't I can't give you a not dealing with the feds. Yeah. It was Joseph. Right? Dealing with the feds, Joseph. We had no problem. We've never we've never had one case of blowback that anybody suffered from the feds. But these local jurisdictions, I just don't know what they're how they're gonna react. That's my problem with this traffic stuff. I get real frustrated because I can't definitively give you I understand what you're saying. K.
But that's the way we would rephrase it in a different way or somebody else could Well, no. You're asking how you would interface with that and how the national would apply. Get the ticket, sign it, and within a couple of days, it go and launch on this administrative appeal. Send them a copy or affidavit. Tell them all the background. See how they react.
[01:25:34] Unknown:
Well, that's fine. I'm not a resident, but I think one of the first questions that I have heard them ask as a next sort of rebuttal, if I say I'm not a I'm not a resident,
[01:25:48] Unknown:
is where do you receive your mail? It doesn't make any difference. What you are is your truth, it's not theirs. If they're asking you and trying to trick you, then they're being tyrants, aren't they? You've got an affidavit on file with the highest official. You got a affidavit on file which states your position. It's on file with the highest authority on that matter in the whole damn country. And then what we're gonna suggest you do is go apply for a passport card, include your affidavit, and you're gonna have the highest form of identification that the federal government issues. It's gonna be attached to your affidavit with your political status.
How are they gonna overcome that? I have a How are they gonna overcome that?
[01:26:34] Unknown:
Right. So in this sense,
[01:26:36] Unknown:
is it a five star passport and are we I I I I You have the pass port. Okay. You you submit your stuff, and if you're antsy about that, you see there's no consistency on what your card says. We got some people that come back with a number that says they're ambassadors at large. We got others that come back and say they're diplomatic couriers. We got others that come back and say they're American Samoans, an o nine, which they're hiding the national under. So I can't give you a definitive answer on that. I can give you a way to get the definitive answer Okay. Is send in a privacy request just like a FOIA except for your own personal information to the passport office and ask them what's in your file and see if your paperwork's in the file because that's what matters.
And that goes back to a supreme court case in 1835. It's on our website.
[01:27:30] Unknown:
Mhmm. K? What is your website?
[01:27:33] Unknown:
Thematrixdocs.com. So you haven't even been to our website yet. Well, that's good. Well, thank I think you'll thank whoever pointed you this direction. So, anyway, we've got the goods on these bastards. It's tried and proven. I've been doing this, teaching people for fifteen years or more actually, but on the air for fifteen years. And as I said a minute ago, we've never had one incident of blowback from the federal government in fifteen years. That's a pretty good unblemished track record. Wouldn't you agree, Joseph? Wouldn't you?
Joseph, are we having a conversation here?
[01:28:25] Unknown:
Did you go away? For the third time, it kicked me off. I just got back on. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Hear you now. So in that pretty good track record, fifteen years unblemished? Negative.
[01:28:40] Unknown:
Negative? Okay. Well, what do you expect? How many years do I have to go? You, Roger.
[01:28:45] Unknown:
He was booted off. Repeat Okay. Please. I I should I've been getting booted off too.
[01:28:51] Unknown:
Well, we can understand about you, Wahid, but we can't understand about Joseph here. They may be having a snafu. I'm kidding, Wahid. What I was saying, Joseph, was that I've I've been teaching people this and helping people go through the process for fifteen years. There's never been one incident ever reported to me a blowback from the federal government on any of this. Would you agree that that's a pretty good unblemished track record?
[01:29:22] Unknown:
I would agree.
[01:29:23] Unknown:
Okay. That's where we are. Where we have problems occasionally is in The States. Okay? And what I'm gonna tell you is what I tell everybody else here that's new is if you really wanna be free, you're gonna have to learn the information and be able to defend your position and teach others. Those are the two things you need to get an adaptation of. Be able to defend your position if you're challenged, which you more than likely won't be, but you may be. And be able to teach others because the only way, Joseph, that I can protect my liberty here in Ecuador is to help you protect yours in Arizona.
[01:30:00] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay?
[01:30:02] Unknown:
And so we always So I gotta get May I, Roger? I hold hold on a second. Let's get Joseph first. I heard Bob. I heard Sherry. Joseph, what were you gonna say?
[01:30:14] Unknown:
I was gonna ask, now it's an of of course, it's gonna be an opinion and and the only I guess I can just go find out on my own. But, after I have sent the letter to Rubio, and I guess I'm not expecting anything in in return. So it will be I would have to I would have to write something in there about an acquiescence after a certain amount of days. Is that correct? Yeah. You're you're there he you this is something you don't understand.
[01:30:43] Unknown:
This is your decision, not theirs. Everything's got to be voluntary. If it's not voluntary, it's tyranny. If they're trying to back you into a corner and tell you you're a citizen of The United States, that's tyranny, isn't it? Mhmm. They'll never be open tyrants. They know what happens to open tyrants. That's the reason this whole thing is turned around the way it is, where they can ask you those two questions and get your approval to sign something and your agreement to their fraudulent scheme. What you are is your decision. They're not gonna challenge you on anything. K? Especially if it's an affidavit form unless it's wrong. If it's wrong, they've gotta write another affidavit, sign it under penalty of perjury, contradicting the facts in your affidavit. And then their affidavit stands. Well, not only can they never do that, they never will do that because then they're open tyrants if you're not correct. And we're correct.
So there's not gonna be any kind of of acquiescence if you agree, don't they? What you are is your choice, Joseph, not theirs. Here's a big learning Okay. That's clear. For you. Okay? So what you do, though, I got that. I got that. That's clear. Cool. Then what you do wanna do after that is apply for a passport card. If there's any problem with your NCIC check or any of that stuff, they'll let you know. And they may send you a bluff letter on top of that that they do occasionally. But, otherwise, they're gonna send you back The their acquiescence is to send you back the passport card that you ordered and paid for that the affidavit is attached to in your file.
Alright.
[01:32:33] Unknown:
I guess one of my questions one of my ideas is that so in my area, it's not policed by, plea it's not policed by police. It's policed by sheriff.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
I just And in that sense Well,
[01:32:47] Unknown:
Joseph, you know the problem is you don't know our program here yet. So you've not been to the website. You probably never heard any of my interviews. You don't really know the background of what we do and why it applies and how it applies. And I appreciate all that. But what might be a better idea, we're on Wednesday now. Why don't you, between now and tomorrow, go listen, and I'll point you to a good interview or two, and go listen to them, and then come back. I think they'll answer your questions and give you a much broader idea of what we do here and why. Okay? This is not any kind of willy nilly conclusions.
What I'm introducing you today here too is the result of over one hundred years of legal and lawful and historical research in three men's lives. So it's not chopped chicken liver. It ain't some kind of patriot mythology crap. We've overcome all that. We've got the real answers. And the and and the way you prove that is, is our slave former slave masters agree with us because they don't ever say anything. They agree with everything we do because everything has to be voluntary. And if they don't agree with what we do, they're open tyrants. Let me let Bob in here. Yeah. He's got something, Kojah, to say probably. Bob's an old student. I mean, he's older, older like all of us, but he's been around here for a lot of years. Yeah, Bob. What kind of, things you can tell Joseph here?
[01:34:23] Unknown:
Hello, Joseph. Good to meet you. I suspect, Roger, that your your V Darcey fell on deaf ears because he was in and out. Okay. Joseph, it doesn't matter what your passport looks like. It can have five stars. It can have no stars. It can have this endorsement. It can have that endorsement. It doesn't matter. It's not the passport. It's the evidence that you've submitted to the secretary of state, and they've got in file in your in your master file at the Department of State passport division, that's that's still good law. That's the, it's it's on the website. Right. So forget about this, about how many stars, and does it say this, and does it say that. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It is an ex parte document.
[01:35:13] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:35:14] Unknown:
And that quote further says That's understandable. And I just got I just went on the website too. I just wanna mention that I see that there's a a link for private plates as well. And, I'm curious if there's a I'll look through this, but maybe there's a,
[01:35:30] Unknown:
email that I can start a correspondence with you directly, Roger, or if there's another way you can point me. Well, I mean, on all correspondence on what? I'm on the air six days a week, two hours a day for these discussions. Is it something real private?
[01:35:47] Unknown:
No. No.
[01:35:48] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then I'll handle it. I'll handle it. Well, that's the reason we're here is to answer and address all these things for everybody, not in a private communication.
[01:35:59] Unknown:
And don't forget about the after show.
[01:36:02] Unknown:
Yeah. We're here after the show's off the air. Some of these people stay on this damn channel all night or half of it. So, Joseph, you can always come on here, and I insist on education. And that's why these folks you'll interact with here, they're pretty educated on this stuff you'll find.
[01:36:24] Unknown:
I love that. I appreciate it. Thank you. I've got just man.
[01:36:28] Unknown:
Oh, god. I've got I got Waheed. I got Sherry. I'm trying to have a conversation with Joseph. Joseph, were you about to say something? No. I was just saying thank you. I appreciate that. That's very welcoming. Alright. Well, let's go to Sherry first. Waiheed. No. I'm gonna go to Waiheed. You've been trying to get on for five minutes. Waiheed, what do you got? Please don't make this about Mars or something. Why am I why do I keep getting why do I keep getting kicked off in the show? I'm not even saying no idea. Getting kicked up? Well, I don't know. I I don't know. But what's your question or comment now?
[01:37:03] Unknown:
I don't I don't I don't have a question. I don't have a question or comment. I wanna know why I can get it
[01:37:09] Unknown:
kicked off. I don't have a question. Why he didn't know why he They may something may be skunky with the software today. I don't know.
[01:37:17] Unknown:
K? But hang on. I think it's the Wahid hook. You know, that big that big shepherd hook that you're getting off the stage. That cane
[01:37:27] Unknown:
that cane with the cook in in the corner there? Does it go as far as Los Angeles? It might. Okay. Sherry, what's Listen. I can't
[01:37:37] Unknown:
best benefit to meet his neighbor, Brent Bachman.
[01:37:41] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Brent, where are you, man? Open up your mouth. Close, how close are you to Vegas, Joseph?
[01:37:51] Unknown:
Oh, I think it's about three hours. As long as I've been on these kind of calls,
[01:37:56] Unknown:
if everybody who is not talking can push star six, they use our phones, and so it it's not like I just discovered something. We just try we tried that, but if they get a call or something, it kicks the mute back off. So sometimes it's not even their fault. Joseph Allen, what do you find?
[01:38:14] Unknown:
It's real short, and it's amazing. I was looking for where this has been challenged in court, and people have lost and won and stuff like that. Here's a direct quote. The courts have ruled against national status claims. Wrong. No court loss on record has been found under 11
[01:38:36] Unknown:
o one a 22 claims. Yeah. And why do you think that is? Every single court case, which is very rare. Why do you think that is? I because they can't overcome it, and they'll never let the case go in their courtroom.
[01:38:53] Unknown:
That it remains completely unchallenged. It's the only thing I've ever I I've done a lot of research. I've always been able to find a case that that re reflects both sides. I have never had a result this way. That is huge.
[01:39:07] Unknown:
Joseph, as you grow here, you're gonna find this that you've stumbled into, and we're gonna unravel for you the damnedest plan of satanic slavery that's ever been on the face of the earth in the history of man. Nobody was supposed to ever figure it out. In their own words, from Colonel Mendel House with a letter to Woodrow Wilson. If only he says, only one man in a million could figure it out, and if one or two do, we've got plausible deniability. That's how that ends. And, yes, that may have been, but with 20 or 30,000,000 people finding out and with the water that's gone under the bridge, you ain't got no plausible deniability. You can forget that shit, slave boy.
The slave master. Mhmm. You're done. Roger? You better believe that Roger. Son of a bitches are listening. You slaving son of a bitches are done, d o n e. Put me on the top of your Put a pork at him. I hate you. K? They won't do it. Okay. We had Bob and Sherry. Sherry, go ahead. What were you gonna say?
[01:40:30] Unknown:
Yes. The only thing that overcomes the contract with America, the constitution, is commerce. Okay. So people, look at your driver's license. Two signatures. It's a contract. Look at your passport. One signature. It's a choice. And so be careful. Yes. So be very careful what you contract for because the constitution will not will not supersede that contract
[01:41:07] Unknown:
that you just signed on for. And if there's another backdoor way to what we're showing you because they can't impair your ability to contract, well, the only way you can get rid of your rights is to contract them away and give them away. In other words, what I was telling you a minute ago, they can't take them away. That's tyranny. They you can give them away voluntary servitude. And this whole plan is based on you answering those two questions your whole life. It's based on a presumption of law from birth, and then as you get into adulthood, they ask you those two questions throughout your entire adult life. And I'd say every one of us in the country probably answered them yes if you weren't qualified. No. If you answered them yes and you signed something. Now what there there's the first layers of fraud right there, Joseph, is the first question. Are you a citizen of The United States?
Because you see there's two distinct, political statuses, and they don't ask you both. They don't say, are you a citizen of The United States or a national, do they? So that's a leading question with lack of full disclosure. So there's the first layer of fraud right there, and it just goes down. I probably could name off five, six, seven layers of fraud underneath that. Okay?
[01:42:26] Unknown:
So that's I definitely don't disagree with that, and I just wanna add to what what the woman said. I've I'm sorry. I forget your name. But Sherry. The license is piggybacked by the Real ID, and the star in the top right corner on the license automatically contracts
[01:42:44] Unknown:
somebody who holds that license into the Real ID. I'm sure it does. See, that's all I need. Talking about. Yeah. Well, that well, that's part of it too. That's brand new. That's only the last couple of years. I'm talking about from having issue, okay, as they started it. Yeah. But your passport overcomes that, at least for flying and getting into better federal buildings the way I understand it. And we have people that once they get that passport card, Joseph, that's the only ID they use.
[01:43:14] Unknown:
Driving and everything else. No. I'm not I'm not completely agreeing. I I understand what you're saying. I have a a book passport book, and I've been to lots of other countries, and I've been back in The States. I do not have a license, and I'm not interested in getting one because I definitely wouldn't sign up for that real ID, which is the backdoor that we're talking about. And and Right. It is fraud and it is tyranny, and that's what we're talking about. But we're gonna have to rebut that presumption, and that's why my questions are formatted the way they are. Well, that's what the affidavit does. It rebuts all those presumptions.
[01:43:45] Unknown:
It shows all of them to be fraudulent based on the initial fraud. And nothing trumps the affidavit. Well, see, what what what Joseph doesn't know is you don't even know our whole program. You just know part of it, submitting an affidavit. K? You didn't even know about the passport. Well, you can just do a renewal. Keep your book. Your book's still open. Right? Your passport book you travel on. Right. Okay. It's still open. Just do a of of of of of d, '82 and just order a passport card and include the affidavit in. K?
And then you will have the passport, which you have the affidavit. That you Well, there's a bunch of videos of interviews. I've been doing this since old Blue was a pup, for god's sakes. The there's a new student section over there on the right side there, and there's a particularly good interview, I thought. It is with the badass uncle Sam, if you know who he is, associated with Infowars over there. And, it's called God's Trump Card. And, but I've got a number of interviews on there. John b Wells. I approach it the subject differently in several of them. But there's enough there for you to listen to and get a grasp of what we do. What I was gonna try and explain to you is what we do on the back end of this to weaponize it. Because when you file the affidavit, you're called a national, but you're really a state citizen, the old state citizen.
Right? You got you got that? Well, is it a US national then? Well, that's a a matter of some discussion around here. But why don't you just word use the word national instead of US, and then there's no equivocations.
[01:45:32] Unknown:
Okay. Alright? Look up 28
[01:45:35] Unknown:
US No. No. No. Don't get him off. Please don't get him off on that right now. He's brand new, Sherry. Please.
[01:45:42] Unknown:
Okay. Fair enough. Well, I'll So what I'm gonna say is when you contract
[01:45:46] Unknown:
USC.
[01:45:48] Unknown:
Okay. So when you contract, it does overcome the constitution. So be careful of the documents you sign.
[01:45:57] Unknown:
Joseph, you're new to me and what we do here. You may not be new in the patriot movement, but when people come to hear from the patriot movement, they've been taught in most cases or almost all a bunch of patriot bullshit. K? So I'm a just gonna tell you that right front. And and and as you go down and address these, you just wipe them out of your mind. Because, you know, it's, it's what Mark Twain said. It's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled. K? So Roger. Uh-huh. Roger. I come with a beginner mindset. I'm I'm an open book. I'm here to learn. Okay. Thank you, Joseph. I appreciate that. Myrka, k. What y'all don't want me to have a conversation with Joseph, do you? Myrka, what do you got?
[01:46:42] Unknown:
I just wanna mention that nothing nothing trumps natural law. Natural law is superior to man made law. And our affidavit, we are back under natural law as a private individual, and nothing trumps our affidavit. No matter what contract you go into,
[01:47:03] Unknown:
it does not trump it. Well, don't say that because you can volunteer back in the world. Why don't you guys laminate that and carry it around in your Oh. Laminate what?
[01:47:14] Unknown:
Before we get far off track, I do have a minute thirty second summary of everything that we just just discussed. It is at a entry level. Can I go ahead and play it? I guess so.
[01:47:27] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
Breaking. Legal boom hold. National status redefines US tax obligation. In a stunning discovery gaining quiet traction, legal researchers and independent claimants are pointing to an obscure section of US law, eight USC for 11 o one a 22, that defines a class of people known as noncitizens or nationals. These individuals are not US citizens, but they do owe allegiance to The United States. They're most often from places like American Samoa, but this classification has wider implications. Here's the twist. Many who have filed paperwork declaring the status have received full federal tax refunds.
And in many cases, the IRS has never challenged them, not in court, not in audit, not even in letters. While US law says everyone must pay taxes, the government also declines US person in ways that leave room for interpretation. If you're a national without a citizen and you don't participate in federal programs like Social Security or use a US passport, there's growing evidence that the system treats you differently, quietly, and without banfare. Okay. Critics argue this status is being hit on purpose. It's in the law, but never explained. Okay. And the courts, they've never ruled against a clean, national, status based tax challenge. Not once. Silence speaks volumes. So what does this mean? Open quote. It suggests The US system is voluntary by design, and many may be under federal authority not because of law, but because they never opted out.
Close quote. If proven in open court, this could trigger a seismic shift in how Americans understand their citizenship, their taxes, and their obligations.
[01:49:10] Unknown:
Now that's, straight out of Okay. Well, there's there's some mistakes in there. I agree with that, but there is an obligation. When you took that, passport from the federal government, it is latching just the way the same way that public aid is. However, that latch is, broken somewhere else. Yeah. It's
[01:49:30] Unknown:
I I totally disagree with that. It's an obligation of the government, whichever before the fourteenth or not, to identify you to foreign nations. That's what a passport is.
[01:49:41] Unknown:
Well, this here does suggest that not only is it voluntary, but it is a, reason why they are not challenging it in court because as soon as it is decided in court, the get to court.
[01:49:55] Unknown:
They've already over as soon as it's decided, though. They've already tried to get it to the Supreme Court twice, Alan. They ain't gonna hear it. Once through DC and once through Utah. The Supreme Court will not take sorcery on this case. It'd blow the whole system wide open. Exactly. Okay. Roger. Joseph.
[01:50:16] Unknown:
Okay. I have a question. I have a couple I have a couple of ideas here.
[01:50:21] Unknown:
We might have to have a private communication, Joseph, just so I can talk to you. Yes, Larry?
[01:50:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I I was trying to get get involved with this conversation a while back, but people just interrupt. They don't say Roger. They just come right on and interrupt. Yep. And, Alan read off that definition, and twice I tried to get in. Definition 22, which is in the statutes at large, The United States Code, and the Immigration and Naturalization Act has nothing to do with what you teach. Definition 22 has two subparts, a and b, capital a, capital b. Capital capital a is The US citizen, and capital b is the noncitizen national, which all is also defined to be a the American Samoan. So that whole, particular statute has nothing to do with the state citizen status.
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Okay, Joseph. What they've done since it hadn't been brought up, but now it has, they have a whole third different political status called a noncitizen national. That is only, o n l y, people from an obscure territory on the other side of the freaking world called American Samoa. American Samoans have natural rights at birth. This has been since they were brought into the territorial system in nineteen o one. They have natural rights of birth. They own their own land. If you try and get an abortion, you can be charged with murder today. Whoever runs the island's government is the biggest landholder, and they do not get US citizenship at birth called birthright citizenship.
We're very fortunate. That whole issue is still on the back burner. I heard Barnes talk about it Sunday night. It's fixing to go as the Supreme Court gets into the next term. This is gonna be something we're gonna hear about. This hadn't been discussed in a whole more than a hundred and fifty years public, birthright citizenship. It's fabulous of us and our approach knowing what that is and its importance that we get to hear all the public discourse is gonna come up and has come up on this already. Okay? So there's gonna be already been some findings. There's gonna be more. They can't get rid of it or they get rid of the whole slave system because Joseph underneath burnt right citizenship connected to giving you a political status at birth depending on not who your parents were, but where you were born.
And the only system in history that's ever had that was the feudal system. So when they get birthright citizenship in, they get the camel's nose under the tent. Okay? You're getting a big drink of water here for a new guy today, but these people consist on it being brought up. So I'm gonna explain it to you. Okay?
[01:53:28] Unknown:
Can you hear me, Roger? I hear you.
[01:53:32] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:53:36] Unknown:
So I have a couple of questions and then a comment. And I'm curious if if anybody has added to their letter to Rubio that they are not a fourteenth amendment citizen and then if you and me laminated that and created that in your motor vehicle. It's it's not a letter telling him that. You're gonna send him a copy of your affidavit.
[01:53:54] Unknown:
The affidavit speaks for you. Here, I'm gonna recite verbatim the sample one that I wrote. I, Joseph from Arizona, do declare, under the penalty of perjury of the laws of The United States Of America, my intent to be a national with God given constitutionally protected capital r rights and not a fourteenth amendment citizen of The United States in a condition of voluntary servitude under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment. That's first paragraph. There's no wiggle room in there. You're not asking anybody anything. Yeah. That's all. You're telling them what you are. Right?
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Okay. That's clear. I have no question about that.
[01:54:42] Unknown:
Second paragraph. As a national, I am deceptively listed and labeled at 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a as a nonresident alien. As a national, I am nonresident to the residency and alien from the citizenship of the fourteenth amendment. Now that pulls you out of the IRS system. Sample affidavit. It's on the website.
[01:55:15] Unknown:
Okay? Yeah. I found it. I got it. Okay.
[01:55:18] Unknown:
You don't have to tell him anything except here's my choice. Register in your files. Change my status where it's incorrect. Adios. See you later. Go take care of secretary of state business. Trump's got you pretty busy these days. Now because you're a clean living kid and you don't have any skeletons in your closet, we give you the green flag to go ahead at the same time if you want and fill out a DS 82, tell them you only wanna order a card, and put that affidavit or a copy of it in that package. That is the only way to get out of the federal system is to let this guy know. And whatever comes up, it depends on whether the paperwork is in his possession or not. If it's in his possession, your status has effectively been changed. And should you get into any court b s because it's in his possession, you can automatically introduce it as evidence, and it bypasses the rules of evidence because it's in his possession.
Okay?
[01:56:31] Unknown:
Three minutes.
[01:56:34] Unknown:
What? Three minutes? Oh, I I guess we're almost at the end of the program here, Joseph. Okay. What I'm gonna suggest to you, because I like talking with you. I wanna educate you. Obviously, you're a sharp guy. How old are you, Joseph?
[01:56:49] Unknown:
42.
[01:56:50] Unknown:
Okay. Middle age, kinda. That's about when people start finding this stuff is in their forties. That's when I've stumbled into it. I've been looking for it and kinda knew something was wrong, but it was not until I ran across IRS stuff that I said, if they're screwing us this bad, what else is going on we don't know about? And Joseph, here we are all these years later, thirty thirty three of them and a little bit more today. Because that's how long I've been in this. Dogedly researching and trying to find answers. And the only reason that I have this knowledge is because one of my teachers was a legal expert who studied law his entire life, not in law school, but going back to the old law books.
K? And so that's why I know stuff that they don't teach this stuff in our law schools anymore. Judges don't know it. Lawyers don't know it. What's what's the underlying, formula for jurisdiction? What comes from the feudal system? Protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. When either one of those is instituted, the other is automatically instituted, and it's not a choice. It's an obligation and a duty. You remember seeing movies where you're seeing one guy talking to the boss and he takes his chest and hits his chest and goes, yes, my liege. You ever seen that in movies?
Yes, my liege.
[01:58:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I think so. Well, that's allegiance.
[01:58:20] Unknown:
A liege is the relationship between a liege man and his liege lord. This is futile stuff. And when I give you my allegiance, you've got to give me your protection. It's automatic. And this is the formula for jurisdiction. And what we're doing is we're changing our protector from the federal government back to the state. We switch our allegiance to the state. They've automatically gotta give us their protection, but they don't know it. This is stuff these guys just don't know. Okay? But that's what's going on. So That's clear. Go look at a, you know, one one or more of my videos. If you can, come back tomorrow, and we'll just pick it up and see what questions don't get answered by the videos, and we'll happy to enter answer them here. And as you can tell, there's a lot of folks that wanna volunteer to help you.
[01:59:13] Unknown:
That sounds good, Roger. Okay.
[01:59:15] Unknown:
Well, we thrive on new people, Joseph. And all these folks that have been hanging around here, they get to hear this stuff over and over and over again. Because the only way you ever learn anything is drill, practice, rehearse. And when you've done a lot of that, you go back and drill practice and rehearse some more. Okay. Couple of resources for you. Are you on Telegram?
[01:59:43] Unknown:
I am.
[01:59:45] Unknown:
National, one word status, second word freedom, third word. We'll hook you up with Merca here. We've got a excellent website called nationalstatus.com. It's pretty slick with AI kinda hooked up to it and stuff, and you can go over there and get a bunch of information. I got years of archives. We're on the air six days a week for two hours on the air. Now when this little whistler guy stops, we're we'll go into the after show, and if you you could stay here for eight, ten hours. K? So that's where we are welcome, Joseph. That's good. Whoever, whoever introduced you and pointed you this way, you'd go buy them dinner at the very least. K?
And I wanna know a little bit more about your travels because I live in Ecuador, been in South America sixteen years. I don't know if you've been down here much or not. But if you have, I'd like to discuss that with you too. So welcome or as they say here, bienvenidos. And, hopefully, we'll see you more and often, Joseph.
[02:00:52] Unknown:
Otherwise, if you're new and listening to Roger. Nice meeting you too. Have a good day. Yep. Yeah.
[02:00:57] Unknown:
And, we will be back tomorrow, and, we will have a nice day. It would appear from the weather, and, we will be back tomorrow. And I will see you then, and I love each and every one of you because every one of you are special, and and every one of you are chosen.
[02:01:15] Unknown:
Bye. Don't leave, Joseph.
[02:01:18] Unknown:
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Merge Merge's gonna get you now. Hell, you may never be the same.
[02:01:27] Unknown:
Myrtle's gonna write it down to you. So so is Myrtle. Myrtle
[02:01:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We got quite a crew around here. There he goes again. We're a big we're a big family. Okay?
[02:01:40] Unknown:
Roger, I found that, definition for resident in the California vehicle code.
[02:01:46] Unknown:
Yeah. What's it saying? With the rebuttals
[02:01:49] Unknown:
the rebuttal information.
[02:01:51] Unknown:
Oh, is there yeah. Yep. Well, you'll find it in every state because they're uniform traffic laws. They're uniform. They've got to be the same.
[02:02:02] Unknown:
It's under words and phrases, in the vehicle code. Okay.
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Listen. If you if you're doing legal research, Alan, do you use words and phrases at all?
[02:02:15] Unknown:
Don't know if he's still here.
[02:02:17] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:02:18] Unknown:
That's a that's a fabulous set of research books. Yes, sir.
[02:02:25] Unknown:
Joseph mentioned address. When they ask me for an address, I consider that a legal, political, and geographic question. And I don't tell them I have an address. I says, I don't have an address. I have a location. His address is linked to residency. That's what they want.
[02:02:49] Unknown:
Well, they don't know it. Repeat me. Well
[02:02:53] Unknown:
Go ahead. I'm educating as I go along in my daily life. And then Well if they wanna look if they want that location, I have a mailing one, which is a non domestic location, and I have a land one that has meets and bounds. And I hand them the meets and bounds. That's it.
[02:03:14] Unknown:
Depends on how far you wanna take it, Joseph. K?
[02:03:19] Unknown:
May I?
[02:03:20] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. You may. For the general audience, my just a second if I could. I'll get you just a second. My goal here is to affect change of some sort to some degree. And the only way we can do that, whatever, is with numbers. And so I try and simplify this as much as possible so the average guys won't charge any money for it. Be if I was charging money for it, people couldn't afford to do it. They'd steal it. Somebody give it to them anyway. So I just make it free because I want us all to help effect change. Alright? And it just depends on how far you wanna take it. The minimal amount works or you can get as sophisticated as Samuel is if you choose. And like I say, how well do you like to sleep at night, Joseph?
Yeah. I like to know my information through and through. Alright. Well, then do you do you take it to the degree that it satisfies you? Now let's hear from this charming young woman that was trying to say something I interrupted.
[02:04:26] Unknown:
This is Muse. Muse. I just want to let you know, I followed your process. I submitted to The US secretary of state my affidavit. I do carry a copy of my affidavit around with me. It's not laminated, but I do carry it around with me. I have my passport. I was recently stopped for a a funding collection stop. And I I hand I did use my passport. I gave my passport to the sheriff, and he went on and on and on about you gotta have drivers. I've gotta have drivers. So you gotta have a driver's license. I told him I don't have a smart ID. I this is the highest form of ID. He's like, you gotta have a driver's license. Gotta have a driver's license.
Now my driver's license is linked to my insurance. So I still do have one, but I use my passport as my way of communicating with them my status change even if they can't read it. He he informed me that my tabs were not current, because, I guess, the the state of Michigan decided they're going to stop mailing, tab updates or or license renewals to Okay. Nationals, I think. So I he he did write me a ticket. I didn't argue with the man on the side of the road. He was very frustrated, though. He he let it slip. He's like, who keeps telling you people this stuff? He didn't wanna know. He didn't wanna see my affidavit.
He didn't he he didn't but he's so frustrated because he's pulling over so many people that are changing their status in various forms, that he's just at his wits about it. So I filled out, one of the court documents, notice to set aside. I sent it with the with a check for the payment of of the ticket. I didn't sign anything. I sent that in, and I asked them to dismiss it with prejudice and let it go. They sent me back my check and a and then they scheduled me for a formal court hearing. So I was like, what the heck? What are you guys doing? And I included a copy copy of my affidavit with that when I sent it to them.
So I wrote down two additional letters asking them to answer the questions about, is there a problem with my affidavit? This is on file. They haven't questioned it. I sent out my notices like you tell us to do. They didn't respond, didn't respond, didn't respond. I went with a couple of witnesses to the to the court and sat in while they I witnessed them asking everybody that they were sentencing, you are a US citizen. You know that. Right? Or, you know, are you a US citizen? And they all said yes. US citizen. Yes. And and they just voluntarily complied to to all the questions.
And I told them that, I'm the authorized representative for the person they pulled over. And I was here to speak, and I I told the prosecutor that, I'm not a US citizen. And I I also included my passport number on my information. I asked them to please, you know, look it up. Crazy. The the, the officer couldn't show up, so they motioned to dismiss.
[02:08:36] Unknown:
That's quite a story, Muse. I am so proud of you. Joseph, one thing that will happen here as you get deep into this and the information starts seeping up into you is you get re empowered because you've been reconnected with God and the rights you were supposed to have at birth that were stolen from you. And so as you learn the information more and make it a part of you, you get totally self empowered, man. And you won't fear one son of a bitch that puts on a pair of pants on the face of this earth. K? So if that sounds good to you, the the your freedom, the level of your freedom is directly correlated to your ability to defend your position if challenged.
If you if you can't if you hadn't learned much, well, I don't know. I gotta call this guy in Ecuador and ask him. Well, that ain't gonna work. It's your freedom. This is your responsibility. If you want it, that's something that's required if you're gonna get what you want. The better you can learn this, the more powerful you are, buddy. And you just heard it from a little gal from Michigan. Capisce? Good, Muse. Thank you. Hello. Was that Mur?
[02:09:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm glad Muse got on here. I wanted to hear the results of that because I'd only heard the mid stream before everything was, taken care of. And kudos. Great great job there of handling that situation. Excellent. Excellent. Yeah. Yeah. And, what I wanted to say and Sheldon had corrected me not to feel exclusive for sending in just one sentence, but this is actually from their terminology. You're gonna get this I'm just saying you can do this if you don't have to You're gonna get this hour high water, aren't you?
[02:10:32] Unknown:
That's right. Yeah. It's right. Because you don't have to do everything at once. Joseph, this is have to do everything. This is from a state department policy document. We haven't introduced it to you yet, but Murr's about to. What's at the very bottom of this page of a policy statement concerning American Samoans. Go ahead, Murr.
[02:10:55] Unknown:
I, in a line to put your name, declare, no. Being duly sworn, declare my intention to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. But I changed it from being duly sworn to being affirmed by God. So I, Mary Bailey, yeah, being affirmed by God, declare my intention to be a national and not a citizen in The United. The reason I'm saying it is because we're always told one sentence, but then people go on and on and with their embellishments. Yeah. You don't have to take the IRS and and you this is what you need to do initially.
[02:11:31] Unknown:
Get that in here. Insist you tackle the IRS because that's our teeth. The more people we pull out of that system, the more they do. Yes. Yes.
[02:11:41] Unknown:
Listen. I'm just saying you don't have to do it right off the bat. No. You don't. You can think it's good at all. About it. Nobody's even gonna tell you you're good. Okay? Right. Right. Right. But I'm just saying because your affidavit, you know, included that. So my sentence and Sheldon Well told me not to feel exclusive. So welcome, Joseph. Yeah. How are you?
[02:12:02] Unknown:
The, the hell was I gonna say? Here's what's going on, Joseph. We're under a presumption of law. If you go in blacks and look up presumption of law, it will say a presumption Mhmm. Based upon another fact. So what they do is things like pull a bond bankruptcy in 1933 in the bond market that no doubt is laced with fraud. We'll never be able to prove it. But on that presumption, they go, well, alright. We got this class here. We set it up. Oh, we got all these black people here, and then one of the attributes of that is they're an object of our property rights. And so why don't we just move everybody over here into this group as sureties for this fraudulent debt?
So there's a presumption of law. So in the feudal system, because your parents were property, when a child was born, it was born into property also. But it's voluntary. There was two types. This is the voluntary side. So that when he grew up, it was a good lord of the manor. People would say, you know, got a nice place. He's nice. And it's a a range that lasted for over a thousand years. Must have worked. Okay? And so every time there's a generation born, they're born into the same condition. But because it's voluntary, you can volunteer out at any time.
And that's what we do with the affidavit. We're volunteering out Mhmm. Of generations of slavery since 03/09/1933, and they can't say a damn thing about it because it's all totally legit. This is their structure, not ours. We just found the loop in the loophole. And because of that, they've got to honor it or else their only other option is to take off the mask and be open tyrants. And they'll never do that because they can't. Can they stay on mute because they can't argue it? Well, They stay on mute. They stay on mute because they can't argue the presumption. They can't argue the presumption. They can't rebut it. They can't deny it. They can't do anything but stand mute or take off the mask and and be an open tyrant. Those are their only choices. And they learn to know what uncle open tyrants are, so they'll never do that. This literally and Joseph, the importance of this.
I've never found anybody even in history that's had these people in this condition. We've got them in the wall in the corner of the wall in Checkmate, period. All we gotta do is spread it and get numbers. They've already lost. All we gotta get is numbers and maybe with enough of them, we could eventually topple the bastards. The weak link I'll get you a second, Boris. The weak link is the tax system. And that's why that second paragraph on my sample affidavit is so important because I want you to pull yourself out of their tax system because then they've got to eat their own open, shitty, fraudulent debt.
That's what they're after is that 37,000,000,000,000 that you're attached to to pay and be obligated to as a federal citizen.
[02:15:39] Unknown:
Hey, mister Chris. This is Larry with FedEx Freight. I'm the driver that has these four skids for you, and my dispatcher just said that you guys are getting ready to leave. Is that true, or do you guys stay around?
[02:15:51] Unknown:
Well, I guess we'll hear Larry's business. Boris Larry. Boris?
[02:16:01] Unknown:
Boris Yeah. It's right here. Boring. Yeah. Can you hear me now? I hear you. Now, Brian? I can be there, like, right when I I hear you. Don't stay away.
[02:16:09] Unknown:
Walking home.
[02:16:10] Unknown:
I'm up here in Nocatee, and I'm at my my stop. And I'm gonna get ready to leave here, and I can come straight to you if you think that's enough time for the line to die down.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
Okay. I think we're clear. Boris, go ahead.
[02:16:29] Unknown:
Okay, Ryder. I have a comment for you because everybody say, oh, I got rights for this. I got rights for that. But once you void your rights, you don't got no rights. For example, if the police, oh, ask you for an ID and you give them your ID, you already void your full amendment.
[02:16:49] Unknown:
What? You void your what?
[02:16:53] Unknown:
Your right. If you if, for example, you got the right to be secure in your papers, in your purses, in your houses. That's the Fourth Amendment. Yeah? Yeah. Then then when the police ask you for papers, you give them to them, you don't got no more rights because you give them the papers. They've got a right. Well, you you just volunteered the information. You didn't lose the rights. You chose to give it to them. But but you volunteered, but that's right. But you give them to them. You don't got no right because you don't flesh your muscles.
[02:17:25] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I don't think I agree with you. What I mean?
[02:17:29] Unknown:
I I don't think I know. But you could say you were under duress. You were under duress. Somebody with a gun is somebody with a gun, and you're under duress. Yeah. Please. Let's deal let's get back to Joseph here, please, and educate him. He's new. Half the time. Please? Okay.
[02:17:46] Unknown:
So, Joseph, I I you you haven't been exposed to enough of our stuff to really know what questions to ask yet, I don't think. But do you have any at this point?
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Not on the tip of my tongue. I'm just kinda listening right now and taking it in. I'm Alright. Like I said, I'm not green. I've I've been around to, I don't know, half dozen to a dozen groups. Yeah. So I have I have just some different ideas of what people are doing. Sure. I have not gone all the way with any of them. I have gathered information from just about all the groups. Smart. I've definitely taken a look at different forms as well. You know, like, the last group was talking about how, what I've heard you talk about as the warehouse receipt Yes, sir. Birth certificate Correct. Seems to be having something to do with the placenta.
And so they were looking to organize the paperwork so that they leapfrog over that and talk about from
[02:18:50] Unknown:
fertilization to final breath Oh my god. Which I think you need to ponder. That that's 1,600
[02:18:55] Unknown:
piece puzzle. 1,600 pieces in a puzzle. I I
[02:19:02] Unknown:
Now I'm not saying that that's gonna be recognized in law because, obviously, it's not. And I'm not saying I'm not gonna carry that. I'm not saying I'm gonna carry that around in my pocket as a license or anything like that. Just I'm just taking it in, but it does sound accurate for Well, that's them making the birth certificate on some sort of Well, that's for a dead entity. Well, that's the problem. It's not a dead entity. It's a live entity. They get you right from birth. It's the feudal
[02:19:30] Unknown:
system. What nobody else understands, Joseph, is it's the feudal system. When it's the feudal system, you understand everything. You understand the remedy. You understand what they're doing. You understand why they're doing it, And it doesn't come into any of these ethereal. People are always looking for some connection. You it's it's pretty simple, really. You just gotta know it's the feudal system.
[02:19:53] Unknown:
I Where's Viviana coming?
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No. It's very simple. It's very simple, and you can look up letters of Mark, and they're essentially doing pirates.
[02:20:03] Unknown:
No. They're not. They're just saying I'm just saying There is agreed. Well, you can't agree. You can't prove that. I can prove what they're doing. You're born, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born. It doesn't say all persons born with whom we keep their placenta and all this other shit. It just says all persons born in The United States. Notice it doesn't say The United States Of America yet because they haven't moved it over to the whole country under a fraudulent bankruptcy. K? And here's the key word, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
Notice it doesn't say are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, does it? It says and. And if there's some that are and subject, there have to be some that are and not subject, don't there? Okay. If there's some that are and are and subject Yeah. I heard you riff on that. It sounds good. Okay. Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma. And if you're both of those two prongs, born in or naturalized in The US and subject to the jurisdiction of thereof, you are a citizen of The United States in a state wherein you reside, a fancy way to hide the word resident.
K? So there's the two pronged test. And what you've done in the past is told them you were subject to the jurisdiction thereof. All you're doing with the affidavit is saying, oh, I'm not. This is voluntary. I can change. I'm gonna change. And this is the only way you can do it with this one guy. And, and I've done it. And you can't say a word about it because it's not your choice or else you're a tyrant. And now how complicated is that? Mhmm. All persons born. The reason you can't apply to a theory Now in the same sense all that woah. Woah. Woah. The reason that can't apply to the theory you just floated is because when you're in the womb from fertilization on, you're not a person yet, and you don't receive rights and duties.
You're just a fair game entity in mama's womb. That's the word person that you don't understand and they don't understand either. K? So,
[02:22:27] Unknown:
just I'm with you. Actually, I got kicked I got kicked out of the group for asking questions about exactly what you're talking about. Now my question is Alright. I think it's true that if if I was to send an affidavit saying I'm a noncitizen, I can also say I can send another affidavit saying I am I want to become a citizen. You can do it either way.
[02:22:47] Unknown:
And you don't wanna you you you see, don't get don't fall into the American Samoa trap. They're noncitizen. See, I didn't even get to explain this before. And all these people are bringing up things where it has to be you have to bring this in so you're not a misunderstanding, and we're trying to clarify. A noncitizen national is only an American Samoan. The only ones. It's the only somebody said, is different. It's it's the only territory in the whole US system that's not incorporated. They have a representative in congress. They can't vote.
They have a lot of American Samoans that come here to The US because they're they're in The US system. Right? Well, they come to The US. A lot of them are in Utah, probably the Mormons, and they get out there and they find they've got ceilings. If I join civil service, I can only go so high. If I join the military, I can't be an officer. All these stipulations and, ceilings for them, and they can't understand why. There's been two cases. This is what I was trying to explain to somebody a minute ago about court. There have been two cases that have been raised by American Samoans on this question. Yeah. Who's ma'am ma'am, could I get somebody to close the mute, please?
There's a female voice that's blurring or something in the background. It's distracting, please. Thank you. So, they see if I can get back on my train of thought here.
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They are classified as non You were talking about the court two court cases.
[02:24:26] Unknown:
Alright. They went one came up. You can go look at it. If you wanna search it up, go put American Samoa in quotation marks and then put plebiscite in quotation marks. A plebiscite is a group a vote by all the people on a on an issue. And they are trying to find out why they're not citizens of The United States. Because without being citizens of The United States, federal citizens, even though they're a federal territory, they can't get the goodies. They want the goodies. Okay? And so that that that's what the first case was about. It was about fifteen years ago, something like that, and, saw the article one day. Well, they took that case to court. It went up to the, through DC, and it got appealed to the supreme court, and the supreme court wouldn't accept it. No certiorari.
The second one was about five or six years ago, and it came out of Utah. And, because, like I said, there's a lot of American Samoans out there. They have restrictions. They don't know why. The attorney that took their case was an American Samoan himself. I tried to call him and get ahold of him. And, the district court in Salt Lake City ruled in their favor. And immediately within twenty four hours, there was two amicus curiae briefs at the court. One of them was from the federal government, and the other one was from American Samoa. And I predicted at the time that it would get overturned at the Tenth Circuit in Denver, which it did.
So they will not allow this issue to get to the Supreme Court. If they ever ruled on it, it would blow the whole system wide open. What they've done is they set up American Samoan. You know, when you're at the county fair, Joseph, and you go out and there's a guy with the table with the felt on it with three thimbles or walnuts or something going, which one is the pee under? You seen that before? That's what's going on here. Mhmm. They just suit the American Samoans out front, noncitizen nationals, because when they move to The US, they've gotta naturalize to be citizens of The United States even though they're born in the federal system. How about that for a contradiction?
K? And so that's what pisses them off. They gotta go through this long process when they're born in the country in their minds, and they can't get the goodies without didn't it. And so what they did was take that status, noncitizen national, and then convert the state citizen to national to hide it behind it. That's what's going on. Which one is the p under? That's why I told you don't use US citizen or US national. Just use the word national. In their statutes, it originates in the Nationality Act of 1940, statutes at large. It's where they did the switch, and they switched state citizen to national. And the very first definition on this long act, there's about seven or eight of them.
At the very first, definition a, a national owes total allegiance to a small s state. Well, there it is. And if you didn't know what I taught you earlier about allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance, you'd read right past that sentence. But now that you know that, it says a national owes total allegiance to a small less state. Well, before, we owed it to the federal government, and we got their protection, didn't we? Oh, yeah. Some of us got more of their protection than we bargained for. So now we've switched our allegiance on the on the jurisdictional formula to a small less state when we declare it. So, therefore, the state has a duty and an obligation to give us protection.
Protection from what? Well, if, if Utah was gonna invade Arizona, you'd be in part of the militia, and they'd direct you to fight the Utahns. Or if federal jurisdiction encroaches in Arizona and you've got state agencies that are political subdivisions and they have things like traffic laws and all that kind of stuff, well, they're supposed to protect you from that too because that doesn't apply to you anymore. Is all this making sense?
[02:29:08] Unknown:
Why do you keep calling me out for you? How do you keep doing
[02:29:11] Unknown:
this? Let Joseph answer. I'm talking with him. If you wanna say something, you wait till we got a break, and you say, hey, Roger, and I will recognize you. I know you don't think those rules apply to you, but they do. Joseph, let's go over it. Damn it. Let's see where see if we can pick up where we're at, please. Okay. So Can you hear me? Yes. I hear you. Is what I explained to you make sense?
[02:29:47] Unknown:
It does make sense. My question is in regards to the IRS, how are you guys filing? You're exempt now. Right? Yeah. We don't file. Well, we're exempt except for two staff two, rare statutes,
[02:30:01] Unknown:
eight seventy seven b and eight seventy one b. One of them is considering expatriation. It will never apply to us because anybody that's gotten this rare rare status in the history of the world, is not gonna give it up and go trade their for a slave passport. So that one doesn't apply. The other one was on dividends if you've received from corporate bonds or stocks. Not capital gains, just dividends. If you owe those, you need to file and pay the tax. Okay. That's clear. So then what about trusts? Are you guys setting up trusts? Well, we we're doing that. We've got a trust class coming up. We got two, very people that are very, very fluid in trust. One of them will be on day after tomorrow with me, Brent Winters.
He's a twenty plus year practicing attorney. He specializes in trusts. He's also been translating his own Bible for forty years. He's very, very prolific. You can access a bunch of his law books he's written, over at commonlawyer.com. Brent's been Brent and I have been doing these shows for probably twelve years or more, and he's a delight and a national resource. And he has just unbelievable knowledge. K? So he's with us every Friday, virtually. Sometimes we have a snafu. So that's one. The others are paralegal, Mark, who should be with us today and isn't, but he's got some personal problems having to take care of his, elderly parents.
So things come up. But he's had a trust class, and, what we're doing, and you you you probably will want to participate in this, is, if if you're interested in trust for, I think, $30, Brent is gonna teach all the students that wanna participate, a a a a whole he's got a whole trust course. He's got one in the can on his website too, but that's upcoming. Paul, do you wanna tell Joseph that you if you wanna do that, let us know and I'll I'll tell you how to do it. Okay? Just connect with this guy right here because he's putting it all together. Okay? Do you have do you have a pencil? Well well, yeah, I will let's see. I shouldn't have called you up, Paul. Anyway, if you wanna participate, get to what other questions did you have on past trust? If you wanna discuss it, we can do that.
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Thank you. Yeah. I'm I'm taking notes. So anytime there's something coming up, I'll I'll take the note. My other question is, I I did have a state pull some funny stuff on me, and they seem to be hiding some some stuff about, possibility of being able to look up a record on their site. Their site does not show my record at all. Oh, okay. So Don't know anything about that. Curious if an affidavit will take care of that if I fill out the d s a two. I I I I don't know. It doesn't matter if you're sending your affidavit to the secretary of state. That's the second one is just to get the government ID that links it to it. K? Just more proof of what you're doing. I don't know. I I don't know. I mean, you were you were asking if I have skeletons in the closet, and I'm what I'm saying is Well seems like the state's kinda hiding some stuff. I don't really know. Okay. Well, I'm in of outstanding warrants or things like that.
[02:33:27] Unknown:
And you'll just have to plow through and see. I I just don't know. I haven't even gotten to the back part of our program or, of our approach where we notify all your state officials and put them all on notice of what you've done at the federal level and that you've changed, statuses. K? So that's just all another deal. We we do another letter, the attorney general. We copy your sheriff and your play your sheriff. You don't have a police, chief police, your sheriff, the local prosecutor, and, if you want to, other folks. But you send them that. It's specifically outlined under the laws of agency.
Notice to the principal's notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal. They're all in an agency structure. Now you've notified all of them and put them on official notice. If the sheriff issues you a ticket or or whatever else, they're acting now that they've been put on notice. They're acting outside of their delegated responsibilities, and now they lose their personal liability. And if the sheriff's deputy, after the sheriff's been put on notice, does that to you, the deputy loses it, the sheriff loses it because you should inform the deputy, and the attorney general also loses their cloak of immunity. So that's in theory and concept.
So if you are litigious, you can have a damn field day here. And we one of our students did almost get his city back in New Jersey, and they freaked out and corrected it at the last minute.
[02:35:06] Unknown:
Did you say he almost got a city back?
[02:35:09] Unknown:
The city that he lives in. Yes. Because they violated they violated their charter. They violated their city charter. Our our waters are very deep. Yeah. Our waters are very deep here, Joseph. We know what we're talking about. Okay? And that's been proven by the acquiescence of the federal government and the I mean, that the state doesn't send the sheriff to you, generally, but, it works. So what I'd like to rather than just ram all this down you in one setting, go back and watch some one or more of those interviews. And if you can, come back and join us tomorrow. If you can't do it tomorrow, we're here Saturday. That's usually a very good session. Friday, we've got Brent with us, and I just kinda turn him loose. Oh, we're discussing the, declaration of independence again this week on a blow by blow comparison or analysis.
So you may wanna come in for that. But regardless, we'll get to you. This isn't just a one shot deal. Okay?
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Okay.
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Do you now is there anything else you're just burning your curiosity up at this stage? I guess not.
[02:36:35] Unknown:
Okay. Roger? May I
[02:36:37] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. All y'all y'all can do it all day long. I may not be with you, but you can do it. Julie was first, lady Linda. I'm sorry to say. Go ahead, Jules.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna say to Joseph, I haven't been on here that long. I haven't been on here a year. And so when you come on as a a new student on here and you ask questions, we all learn from you because this information and these definitions and equivocation are so confusing for us. So we're all one big family here. And so we've shared so much information with one another. There really is no stupid question except for not asking the question. So, welcome to the family here. And you're in safe hands with Roger and all of his students, and I yield.
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K. Lady Linda, here's a swaggy right here.
[02:37:30] Unknown:
Lady Linda? Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Welcome, Joseph. I just wanted to share a couple of things. Number one, Title eight eleven oh one that was brought up today, parenthesis A, close parenthesis, parenthesis 21, close parenthesis speaks to the national. So, I just wanted you to have that clarity. That's number one. Number two, we were discussing the difference. Some folks use the word domicile. I do not. That's their word. And most of us, 99% of us, I believe, love the Lord with all their hearts and do not lean on their own understanding, and their reference is from the word of God, the word of the heavenly father. And that's why I have such an appreciation for Samuel and Myrrh because that is their foundation.
So let me share with you if you are a man of the of the word of God and that's one of your, studies, there are two distinct relationships between man and woman in the world, and they each carry a different set of responsibilities. So I like to use the word dominion because that's in the word. And the dominion means that we are commanded men and women to rule and be caretakers of creation. While the words resident or alien describe the status of our heavenly father's people as temporary inhabitants in a foreign land. So those of us that are here, our highest calling is being ambassadors to the king of kings.
So the cool thing is, if you wanna just look it up on your, your computer or your phone or however you look at, research, you can just say, to the, computer, please share with me the difference between being, the words dominion and the word resident. And the other word that is in contact with resident is the word alien. Okay? So when you look that up, you'll see an alien is a temporary inhabitant in a land that belongs to another. Okay. The land belongs to our heavenly father, and he has given us authority or jurisdiction to rule over his creation.
So when you realize that when you're doing your documents, you're going to the higher power, which is our heavenly father, and you're asking the Holy Spirit to give you guidance so that you can be surely footed, grounded in what you're doing is the truth that sets men free. And so the scope of this is that we have dominion not just over fish and the sea and the birds, but we have dominion over everything on earth. And specifically, for those of us who are his people, we are called strangers in this land. And our responsibility as having dominion is we're stewards.
So we're not here to exploit. We are here to be responsible caretakers of our heavenly father's creation, and we are called to be compassionate and just have justice. And just like the Israelites were once aliens in Egypt, they were still commanded to love and not mistreat the foreigners among them. And, that's where treating equally under the law comes into context. So if your foundation is that your part of mankind made in the image of our heavenly father to rule as his representatives, reflecting his glory in order in this world that we live in, then our law reflects, which is nature's law, natural law, heavenly father's law.
We reflect his character. We show love and justice for the vulnerable and the marginalized. So I hope that blesses you and helps you to move forward in IYield.
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Linda. Thank you very much. Joseph, do you feel like you're taking a drink of water out of a fire hydrant here today?
[02:41:54] Unknown:
It's all it's all within my pace, but I appreciate every everybody's words, and I appreciate the welcoming. It's very nice.
[02:42:02] Unknown:
Yeah. And we, you know, I have a a real duty. I've been doing this for fifteen years. I never charge anybody. You are gonna pay me though, I hope, and you're gonna pay me by learning the information and help spreading it. And if you don't wanna do that, then I guess that's alright too. But I do this out of a sense of duty. And, I've learned you can't give look. You got you got plenty of resources at your fingertips. You found the website. The other video that you may want to look at, are you familiar with doctor Eugene Schroeder's War and Emergency Powers Act video?
No. This was done back in the '94 of a group of researchers just north of you there, Northeast in Colorado, nine of them. And they did this research group on the War Emergency Powers Act, which is where all this stems from. And, he goes through that. He's a veterinarian. He goes through that and, gives you, I think, 85 exhibits there on the bankruptcy. What happened in 1917 with the original legislation and how they applied it in 1933 when they did the bankruptcy. You may or may not have noticed back before the election when they were suing Trump, all those lawsuits. And Trump came out. He said, they're trying to charge me with some espionage act from 1917.
That's what this is. K? And, basically, what happened was they passed that in World War one. The enemy was Germans. In 1933, they brought that exact legislation forward, and they changed the word Germans and put in citizens of The United States. So all these generations have been declared enemies of the federal government and the bankruptcy people. That's something you may wanna watch. It's gonna it's about two hours long. It's excellent research, and it gives you the whole foundation. And even though we start before that, back at the civil war, the modern day part of it picks up right there where he left off in 1933, March 9. They changed the systems the day Roosevelt took the gold.
They took the gold, then they came back out with the paper, which you didn't know you were the collateral for. That's when they changed the system. So what that doctor Schroeder's deal will do is validate that for you totally. K?
[02:44:38] Unknown:
So I am aware of that, and I I heard you talk about it on the video that I did watch that, our friend that I don't I don't know his name, but, I watched the video where you talked about that as well. 03/09/1933.
[02:44:51] Unknown:
I'm I'm up on that. And I did find the video of doctor Schroeder you're talking about. Yep. And, Paul Paul, our assistant here So I'm I'm I'm up. I'll just He took the one that's on the web and ran it through audio correction. It's got the audio on it much better listened to. So Paul deserves a pat on the back for that.
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Okay.
[02:45:14] Unknown:
Yeah. The link to that one is on the matrix docs in the new student section, and it's the one that's on Rumble, not the one that's on YouTube.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
Yeah. So So what else, Joseph? Or the we got a bunch of people got something for you. Was there anybody else had something for Joseph here? Well, the guy's trump card. Alright. Well, yeah, job God God's trump card is a good video. You know, I think I I explained how they're doing this in your mind first and the technique that you can use to bring yourself back into reality, and then I tell you what they've done. Okay? So that's a I think it's a good video. So otherwise, in that average. Joseph, go do your homework. Alright. Hold on, Waheed. Go do your homework and come back and visit us with questions when you can. Waheed, what do you got?
[02:46:14] Unknown:
You said something about German. They started this with the German, and I caught the tail end because I had a customer. But they started what with the German? The War and Emergency Powers Act in 1917
[02:46:25] Unknown:
declaring Germans the enemy. In '33, they brought that exact legislation at forward and took out Germans and put in citizens of The United States. Obviously, you haven't watched the Eugene Schroeder video yet, have you? Why?
[02:46:44] Unknown:
No. I haven't. How do I not do James Schroeder video?
[02:46:50] Unknown:
I guess the first thing you need to do is listen. You go to the website and go over to the new student section, and it is presented to you there.
[02:47:03] Unknown:
It's an archive.org video.
[02:47:06] Unknown:
Thank you. Thank thank you. Okay. It's worth watching, Wahid. Okay. Who else? Stomach's growling. Alright. Well, hopefully, we'll see you back tomorrow with more questions, Joseph, if you get a chance. And, otherwise, all you guys and gals will be here with the regular bunch or those of you who are in that that can be, come and hang around with us. So, they go. You can stick around here, Joseph. I mean, there'll be people on here for hours. So you've got an audience, but I'm gonna go and satisfy my hungers. Okay? Hey, Raj. Yes, Paul. Okay. Thank you for your thanks for everything for everything, Roger. Okay. Alright. Well, Joseph, we'll look forward to seeing you again, hopefully, if I didn't offend you too much. Yes, Paul.
[02:47:55] Unknown:
Okay. After you get lunch, I might have a solution for your word processor. Give me a call on the phone
[02:48:07] Unknown:
after you're, done eating, and then Alright. We'll get together and get that done. Oh, alright. We'll see if we can do that. I've got a dental appointment at five. It's simple. Just taking a picture of my mouth. So, anyway, okay. I'll see y'all later. Paul, I'll see you later. Okay?
[02:48:23] Unknown:
Okay, Rog.
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Roger? Yes, ma'am. Roger?
[02:48:28] Unknown:
I have a question for you. I don't mean to be nosy here, but I was thinking about setting up a go go fund me for you. Do you have an idea of what your dental, costs are gonna be around? It's under $15.
[02:48:44] Unknown:
Okay. Probably the latter. Oh, well, thank you for that, Julie. It'd be great. We can promote that too. And when I I gotta get my I'll get that other stuff on Alex Jones straight. I've been meaning to do that all year. And it doesn't take any money from anybody. It's just if you don't change, if you're buying from Alex, and I'll get part of that. So, anyway, we'll talk about it later. I have got to go take care of some bodily, bodily calls. Okay? Mhmm. I'll leave I'll leave it at that. Ciao. See you tomorrow, Julie. Love all of you. Ciao.
[02:49:19] Unknown:
Bye, Raj. Okay. If anybody, is gonna talk continuing the topics that were discussed, go for it for about the next ten minutes, and then I will take the stream down at 02:00 eastern. Or if nobody wants to say anything, I'll take it down right now.
[02:49:50] Unknown:
I got a little more I could add.
[02:49:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to reinforce what Linda said about domain. Domain and dominion are the only two words that I found that aren't corrupted by that fourteenth amendment. They've left them alone. So this is where I would say that I exist. It's in within my domain, within my dominion, in my legal paperwork. That's the term I used. Thalmicile is also linked to residency, so you wanna stay away from that. Gave them the bomb. What did you want? Oh, Dave.
[02:50:42] Unknown:
Hey. I just wanted you to speak up and say hi to, the new guy, Joseph, in Arizona. You guys are neighbors. Figured you could maybe beat up somewhere.
[02:50:54] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:50:58] Unknown:
That's all.
[02:51:00] Unknown:
Well, one of the things I don't have a vehicle. I don't I don't operate a vehicle. So unless you're in Yuma, it's probably not gonna happen.
[02:51:12] Unknown:
Dave, you guys in back in those little states like Michigan think that Arizona to Nevada doesn't
[02:51:19] Unknown:
seem very far. Well, three hours, he said. He's about three hours from from Vegas. That's enabled.
[02:51:27] Unknown:
If you're in in Arizona, he can get within three hours of Vegas.
[02:51:33] Unknown:
What? One seven. You're breaking up. Yep. We lost you. Anyway, that's all, Brent. I thought it was good it'd be good for him to hear your voice out there, the next door neighbors.
[02:51:59] Unknown:
Yield. Where in where in Arizona does this other gentleman live?
[02:52:06] Unknown:
He he's somewhere in Vegas. He's been following Roger. He he met Roger, like, thirty plus years ago in Atlanta. So, yeah, Brent's a good guy, and he knows his stuff, and he's a marine.
[02:52:27] Unknown:
And he's a preparing you you're saying that he's in Nevada, not not Arizona. Right?
[02:52:33] Unknown:
He yeah. He's in Las Vegas. So how do you how do you travel?
[02:52:51] Unknown:
I don't.
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Breaking up.
[02:52:56] Unknown:
I said I do not.
[02:52:58] Unknown:
Okay. So that that's, that can be detrimental in the in the desert.
[02:53:10] Unknown:
Vegas is about six hours away from standing outside all day, but Say it again there, Paul. Vegas is six hours away from Phoenix, Arizona.
[02:53:29] Unknown:
I thought I heard, Joseph say it was about three hours from Vegas. So you maybe you should think about getting divorced.
[02:53:48] Unknown:
In that case, it'll be eighteen hours.
[02:53:54] Unknown:
Not if it's a fast one.
[02:53:58] Unknown:
We're talking about the High Arizona Desert. How fast can it be?
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Maybe may maybe he has a bicycle.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Can you hear me now?
[02:54:18] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:54:25] Unknown:
Hello? Can you hear me? Yes.
[02:54:29] Unknown:
Yeah. We can hear you. Sometimes when you get kicked out like that, you need to just call back again and get on a different connection on the server.
[02:54:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I mostly lay low, and and I researched these kind of things. I was in a motor home, but I sold the motor home. So I'm kinda sitting tight to kinda figure out all this lost stuff, to be honest. I don't know how far, Vegas is. I'll look it up right now, though.
[02:55:01] Unknown:
Hey, Yeah. I just got a question.
[02:55:05] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:55:07] Unknown:
How much water is in the Colorado River at Yuma?
[02:55:17] Unknown:
I'm not really sure what your question's trying to find. It doesn't really disperse to Yuma, so it's not really helpful. It goes right on by. I know. Not as big as four hours and fifty three minutes for me.
[02:55:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I was just wondering if you've ever
[02:55:42] Unknown:
seen the Colorado River. It's not that far. It's right outside of Yuma. Oh, if I if I seen it I'm sorry. I misunderstood your question. Yeah. I've been in I've been in the river, and I've been in the part of, the river where it doesn't have an aqueduct or it doesn't have concrete on the sides where it just, you know, gets it going right through Arizona and and it heads on into California. But, it's nice and cold and and refreshing, but it doesn't really go to Yuma. The water in Yuma is actually pretty pretty terrible. I'm not really sure what they're doing to it out here, but it's got all kinds of contaminants in it. And, what was your question?
[02:56:38] Unknown:
Oh, Matt?
[02:56:40] Unknown:
Never mind.
[02:56:43] Unknown:
So you you obviously know some of this information. Where have you looked for, guidance to help you understand and know the know the different things that what Roger's talking about, what have you.
[02:57:03] Unknown:
Again, I would ask you to to kinda clarify your question. I've been in more groups than I can name, and so the the different directions that people are trying to come at this at are varied. I can't really answer that question directly, and and and, you know, it's kind of a a cluster of information at this point. I'm just kinda picking up bits and pieces and seeing what I wanna splice together to make it work most efficiently for me. You know?
[02:57:36] Unknown:
Agreed.
[02:57:41] Unknown:
I think the next
[02:57:43] Unknown:
curiosity that I have before before you go,
[02:57:51] Unknown:
I am curious about
[02:57:53] Unknown:
I did mention it. Maybe I I didn't clarify well enough for Roger. Maybe he didn't understand what he was saying. But, I think I might run into a snag with getting a passport card with some hidden something that they have, in another state that I was in, where they they used obstruction against me to hold me, and I wouldn't use the name for quite a while. And they were trying to get me to use the name, and I wouldn't say the name. And I almost stayed long enough without saying the name, for them to release me because they can't hold you beyond seventy three hours is my understanding. But they talked about, they started to press me, and I ended up saying the name and saying that's who I am. And I acquiesced, and I signed.
And so they held me for a while, before I I made bail, and I left. And then I had a court court date went to that court date, didn't plea. The judge entered a plea for me. Now when I looked up that information, it didn't show up on the court record. And my friend, to my knowledge, it was his his place I was just passing through. I was passenger in his vehicle. There wasn't any obstruction. I just said I didn't wanna get out of the car. But what I'm saying is because I couldn't find the information on their website, I don't know if it would show up in the d s eighty two when they look up my record. Because as far as I know, it's not there. And so my question is, you know, can I simply send in an affidavit with the eighty two to say, I'm aware of this? This is possible, Through no incrimination, I just wanna name that, and I'm not trying to hide it.
[03:00:04] Unknown:
Joseph? This is Julie. I wouldn't do that. You can get an account on pacer.gov, pacer.gov. If you have your case number, you can look that up on there. It's public information and figure out if that judge entered a plea for you, what the resolution of that case is. You can see where it stands. And if you just submitted a DS, 11 or DS 82, I may find information, on you based on like outstanding court costs that you owe and stuff like that that weren't pay paid or outstanding warrant for your arrest or something. You just won't get issued a passport. That's my understanding if anybody else wants to chime in here.
[03:00:52] Unknown:
Thank you, Alika. Although, I'm on pace for now. Yeah. Joseph,
[03:00:56] Unknown:
so Roger says what we figured out here recently, was if we send the affidavit in, you know, by itself without any applications to the Department of State first, letting them know that you're a national and you want this placed in your file firmly and permanently, they do. And then you apply for your passport with another copy of your affidavit. And normally, it goes smoothly unless you got, you know, some skeleton like you're talking about. And that may or may not be a skeleton. I'm not sure exactly what you said because you kinda broke up a little bit. But, if you looked it up and you didn't find anything, it's probably not there.
[03:01:40] Unknown:
Yeah. And and as Samuel was saying also, you'd if you even if you don't have the case name, you can search by your your name, and it should pull up anything that was, entered into, that court in that area. And I think you can actually even, check by state, use the search engines and the advanced search to check by state and by county. But I haven't been on that website for a while. So I can't remember how it works. But you can find out
[03:02:08] Unknown:
your information. I'm on it. I'm savvy. It says select court type Yep. And then select a circuit. So I'll be looking into that. Yep. Find out a stat. But the the the thing would be to first submit
[03:02:20] Unknown:
your, affidavit of citizen evidence to the Secretary of State. And then after that, apply for your passport. Don't put anything on there. Like you could have this outstanding, or you had this situation, or whatever. Check PACER first because you do have to comply with that warning statement on that, on that renewal application, which states that you have not been convicted of any, crimes or whatever under certain codes and stuff. So that's why I always recommend go to PACER first, and you can get all that information there and see where you stand.
[03:02:59] Unknown:
And if you do have Thank you for that. That's an important piece. I appreciate that clarity because I have not been con convicted of anything.
[03:03:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Then you probably are good to go. And if you have been convicted of something, you can, you know, I want I'm learning a lot these days about our all caps name, which Roger does not want us discussing on his show. But I have I have friends going into court right now here, and they're going right in and they're asking the judge for the bid performance and payment bond, And they're asking for the accounting and the judge is just getting up off the chair walking out and dismissing the cases. So I mean, when you go to court, we go to court, we're going to a bank, they're using our minor estate, which is our all caps name. And until we take back our minor state, we are both the debtor and the creditor. And that's what they're doing when we go into court. They're making a lot of money off of us.
But you have the right to ask my question. You just talked about a can of worms that I definitely wasn't going to try to bring up with Roger, but Yeah, you don't want to bring the all caps name up with Roger. He doesn't believe in it. He doesn't believe anybody's ever gotten a hold of their, Sustic KB trust account. And I have other information that states that they have. The problem is is that my understanding is people who go to court to get in a hold of their trust. Those cases are sealed. And those people who teach it, they're threatened with jail time.
And I have no evidence about that. That is just rumors that I'm being told. But it would make perfect sense with me because they don't want us to know this information. They don't know that when you were your CUSIP number is attached. You're I I say it's attached. It's a bond. I have the actual companies that created a bond out of our CUSIP numbers. And by the way, when you go to court, you can also ask the judge and the court and the clerk before you go, give me the CUSIP number in the case. And you tell them you don't want the master CUSIP number. You want the individual, CUSIP number because they've taken all the individual CUSIP numbers and merged them into one, which was unlawful.
They're also signing ten ninety nine in your name, which is identity theft. And they're also, issuing securities, which is a violation of securities laws. And then they're also engaging in tax evasion because they're making money off your bonds, and they're not paying the taxes owed on them.
[03:05:28] Unknown:
Yep. I'm with you on all that, and I think that, that's well, baby steps. Right? But all that all that's very important information.
[03:05:39] Unknown:
All the stuff ties in all ties into the national status, and it all ties into your minor estate. And it's very important information because we everybody needs to understand that when you were when you came out of your mother's womb with the maternity act of 1920, they bonded all of us. And they bonded all of us unbeknownst to us. And so, as Sherry was stating yesterday or the day before, there is actual proof and there's case law that specifically states that you have a minor estate. Sherry, I'm not sure if you're on here. I can't remember the title and the code. But, I will let you know that, the Attorney General is the common law trustee of your estate, your whether you want to call it a legacy trust or an estate trust or a SESTAKV trust, they label it all sorts of different names. I got it here. Title 31 CFR 363.3 governs the regulations for securities held in the Treasury Direct System, which is administered by the Bureau of Fiscal Service.
So everybody wants to know what our remedy is. And it comes down to the creditor debtor in the system because we have been bankrupt forever and everything is in a trust right now. Your bond is in that trust and operate and we're operating with fiat debt currency. So somebody has to be the debtor and somebody has to be the creditor. And the government, they owe us. They owe us money. So you should there's a set off and an equipment's account and the government already owes you money. So when you go to court, instead of having to pay fees, you should be asking them to just charge the liability because you are the creditor and they tried to trick you into believing that you are the debtor as well. And there are so many, Supreme Court decisions. Here's what it is. Title 31 CFR 363.6.
You have not taken over your minor account and your securities, to do your transactions in a commerce system. So you're actually until you do this, you're operating at a as a debtor instead of a creditor. And the entire secured party process is about securing your securities. So you're operating as a creditor instead of a debtor in the system. So so that you're controlling access to that account where you're the grantor and you're the beneficiary of it. They are the trustee. And you know what? When you go to court, that judge that's sitting on that bench, you know, that trustee that AG and then the lawyer that's sitting on the bench, they're the trustee. That's your account. That's your money. They should be paying your bills and they're lying to you and they're committing fraud.
And, I'm trying to figure out how to get I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, but I think I'm getting closer and closer to figuring it out, and it's through ten ninety nine forms a, b, and c. Yep. I'm with you. I'm I'm aware of all of that. Would you mind, repeating those? CFR three six three point six is what I got. Yeah. So, you can look up the fact that you actually it's proof that you have a minor account. And it's proof that you're a minor account and not as your securities. So that's Title 31 CFR 363.6.
That's proof that you have a minor account and that it's your securities. And by the way, Sherry was on here the other day. And, it talks about that you can take over this account. It doesn't matter if you're over the age of 18. Hold on here real quick, Joseph, if you don't mind. May I? Yeah. Here's Sherry. Here's Sherry.
[03:09:39] Unknown:
Okay. We have to distinguish between statutes and regulations. Statutes are meaningless without an implementing regulation. So when you see CFR regulation, that controls everything. That's where the penalty and that the duty is required. So, statutes are meaningless without an implementing regulation. So, 363.6 definition of minor.
[03:10:19] Unknown:
Minor means that if you fall under the age of 18 years, the term minor To refer to an individual who has attained the age of 18 years, but has not yet taken control of the securities, plural, contained in his or her minor account. You have more than one bond. You have several bonds in that account. And when you go to court, they are signing a ten ninety nine A, taking over your property, which is identity theft by signing your signature to something you didn't sign and then stealing your property, and they're bonding you. And if you go to court, I had somebody recently who went to the you go ahead, Sherry. Yeah.
[03:11:04] Unknown:
Okay. Because we have to also recognize that everything under contract is a security. Yep. Okay. So, title 31 governs the securities.
[03:11:22] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:11:24] Unknown:
Okay. I got a question. If it's under the CFRs, does that apply to a state citizen?
[03:11:33] Unknown:
Well, here's what's happening here. So to get access to your minor account, my understanding is that you need to be a national to do that. I'm still studying this and getting closer to an answer for everybody. So that's one good thing. But you need to take over that account. I there are, like, for example, there's a thing called tax credits that I'm looking at right now. Every time you go to the bank and you deposit $10, the bank can loan out, 10 times that amount 10 times that amount. So you are owed tax credits. That money is yours. And if you file the right, forms, you get that back. I'm still trying to figure it out, and I figure it out. I'm gonna share it with everybody. But they have blended my understanding is they have blended all these jurisdictions together.
And everybody who says when you go into court, they're operating under this or that or whatever. I would beg to disagree with all of that stuff because they blended law and they blended jurisdictions. When you go in there, they've combined, maritime admiralty law, which is a 100% applicable to your all caps name because you were dead. They made you dead in your honor. Wait a minute, Julie. Yep.
[03:12:57] Unknown:
We have to distinguish between jurisdiction and choice of law. And choice of law is what controls the jurisdiction. So when you go in and you have your choice of law, and this is also under the UCC, between the law of the land and the law of the sea. But you can't meddle in both.
[03:13:32] Unknown:
Okay. Sherry, I'm just gonna agree to disagree with you because here's the deal. Everything is fraud right now. You gotta play their game.
[03:13:40] Unknown:
No. That might be, but Julie Julie, the proof fraud
[03:13:44] Unknown:
agree. Sherry will disagree to disagree. I'm trying to get a hold of our trust, and I'm gonna play their games. I don't care what they've done. It's all fraud. The courts are banks. It's all fraud. They're corporations. I'm gonna play their games so that we can get access to our accounts and do the accounting and the offsets that we are owed. Okay. Well, I will say this.
[03:14:06] Unknown:
You don't have to go in and prove fraud. That is very hard to do, first of all.
[03:14:12] Unknown:
Your choice of law is what is I'm not saying you have to go and improve fraud. I know the specific phrases to use when you go into a courtroom that will cause a to cause a case to be dismissed and a judge to get out of the seat and say, I dismissed the case, pay $25 court fee and get out of here. They don't want it they don't want people to know on the record that we know what the fraud is all about. Julie? Yep. Have you have you looked at the steps that Stamper has in his book, in '67? I I haven't. Some of them are antiquated because they've changed things. Like, for example, when Stamper wrote his book, Samuel, Stamper doesn't know now that there's two treasuries.
They took a separate treasury and put it in Puerto Rico on purpose and then, so that we couldn't get jurisdiction down there. So we did have only one treasury in the Federal District Of Columbia. Now they put it down there. They moved all of our QSIP numbers down there because people were figuring out about the bonds that were being issued in our all caps name and that we were playing both the debtor and the creditor of The United States, and they were double dipping. And then also on top of that, now they've taken all the CUSIP numbers and they've merged them into one just like they do when you get mortgages. They pull them together and create a mortgage backed security. They've done the same thing with the CUSIP numbers.
So I'm trying to figure I've been working very hard on this, and I understand where everybody's coming from in terms of go ahead. Yeah. What?
[03:15:44] Unknown:
Well, I just wanted to support your first statement. By Stamper's first statement, He says, in order to make this work, you have to claim to be one of the people must appear on the public register, the secretary of state. Yep. So there's the state citizenship. Yep. To begin to do this process. Yeah.
[03:16:06] Unknown:
And my understanding is in order to take control of over your minor account, which contains all the securities, I e bonds that they've issued in your all caps name, you have got to, you have you've got to play their fraudulent rules of the game. And I get it. Well, we have these laws. We have these god given rights and blah blah blah. I'm not interested in that anymore. I'm interested in getting my money that they stole back from me. I'm act I'm interested in getting my tax credits. This is so evil. I can't even sleep at night anymore. So just like we use their own codes under Title 26 IRS codes in there and the statutes at large against them, we can use all their, fraudulent, stuff they're doing in the in the courts, which are banks, and and ask them to give us the accounting. Give me my CUSIP number for the case, and I'd like to I'd like to see the bond. When you go in a courtroom like that on a traffic case and you tell the judge, I'd like to see the bond, please, they're gonna say, I don't know what the bond is. If you go to the Foreign Registration Act and look up that judge who's gonna be presiding over your case and they have not registered as a foreign agent and they're functioning as like a bar judge, bar attorney in that court, they have to answer your questions because then they're a public official. They didn't take the oath and they didn't they didn't A public servant.
Yeah. They're they are a public servant for you and they're gonna try to tell you they don't have to answer questions. Yes. They do have to ask answer questions if they didn't register under the foreign agent, act of 1937 as amended. They have to answer your questions. And the more you tell that judge, well, you're one of two things. You're either a foreign agent or you're a public servant. And I looked you up in the database, and I don't see anywhere that you registered as a foreign agent. So you must be a public servant, which means here's your duties, and that would be me, and you have to answer my question.
[03:18:01] Unknown:
Julie, wouldn't you think that a clerk of the court would have this information?
[03:18:07] Unknown:
Maybe not disclose it. You won't that that is somebody is close enough to one. Yeah. Maybe we could get get it from them because they gotta do the somebody's gotta do the paperwork. Right? Well, yeah, the So when you find out so if you get a ticket in a case and you decide you're going to go to court, you know, before you go to court, you should figure out who the judge and who the clerk is in the case because that's you're right. They have to tell you that information before you show up. So you can go look that judge up and find out, if he or she registered in the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1937 as amended. And then after that, you can also call up the court and ask, I want the CUSIP number for the case. And they they have it. If they say, what are you talking about? They're lying. Tell them I don't want the master CUSIP number. I want the individual CUSIP number in this case.
[03:18:54] Unknown:
May I? What I'm saying because you're so involved in this kind of a world anyways, the finance side, do do you think you know somebody who knows a clerk of court who might share some information with you?
[03:19:06] Unknown:
I don't know. I I don't know I don't know anybody in the court.
[03:19:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, let me haven't asked this, but let me just say this. A county clerk is the she's the clerk of the public record and the county clerk, and she's also the clerk of the circuit court. Now when you're dealing in traffic, you're one level underneath there. It's district or municipal. It's not a court of record. Now when you get to the circuit level, it's a court of record, and your county clerk is the same as the circuit clerk. And so, yes, they do know that. And I'm in a position and I I should ask, but I would say don't do it verbally over the phone. Do it in writing. Make them write your response.
And and that's maybe that's something I should be doing. Well, if you knew her Any thoughts on what letter? Sit down Yeah. I know her.
[03:20:12] Unknown:
About it No. And see what they have to see what they'll disclose to you. See, I'd rather do it in writing. And you're very loud as usual. You're breaking my speaker. It's my phone.
[03:20:24] Unknown:
I don't know.
[03:20:26] Unknown:
I don't know. Do I I don't know what it is, but Brenda's got the same thing. Every time she's on, it breaks my speaker. I and I tell people about it, but it doesn't seem to be a remedy. So I don't know. I know. But don't you find it odd, Samuel? It's just the women?
[03:20:45] Unknown:
Me? Do you mind if I interject for a moment? Can you hear me?
[03:20:51] Unknown:
I don't know if Samuel could answer the question. It's just the women.
[03:20:56] Unknown:
You're not breaking the street now, Sherry, and you're speaking softly.
[03:21:00] Unknown:
Just speak softly. I I went to a whisper, which the other day, Paul told me you don't have to whisper. Well, evidently, I do. So here I am. You're on another phone. No. I'm on the same phone that I was just thirty seconds ago. I chose to whisper.
[03:21:26] Unknown:
Hello. What is the name of the lady? This is Chris from California. What's the name of the lady that was, giving us all this information?
[03:21:36] Unknown:
Oh my god, Chris. I'm so, I'm I'm just so, I'm so offended that you don't remember me, that you emailed me. Julie. It's me Julie, Chris. Come on. Your sister from a different mother.
[03:21:52] Unknown:
May I add something to what Julie has put forth? All contracts are governed by securities, and that's how they control us. Contracts
[03:22:08] Unknown:
Not in common law. Securities.
[03:22:10] Unknown:
Yeah. But Correct. And that is where it's important, your choice of law.
[03:22:17] Unknown:
I think there's another threat that the courts we could use on these courts as as state citizens is that we would definitely come under Swift versus Tyson and not Erie Railroad. And we could, when we get high enough in the courts, be able to be a district court under the common law, and I think that would scare the crap out of them to the point where they wouldn't even wanna entertain such a case.
[03:22:52] Unknown:
Samuel. Samuel, if you go into a courtroom in front of that judge, okay, on a traffic ticket, they have already pulled a ten ninety nine A, and they have already extracted funds from your minor account where all your securities are. It's called a set off and acquittance account. If you just tell the judge, why don't we apply, your alleged debt that is due, to my account and discharge the liabilities from the case? They don't, they don't want to hear that. We do not have constitutional rights in this county. There was a permanent injunction and restraining order against the government itself. And there are You forget, really, I don't even believe in going to court. I debate them. I understand that. But I'm trying to tell people, I'm trying to get a hold of our minor accounts and our securities to get our tax credits back, and to take over this account because it's ours.
And so, you know, that's what my whole goal is. I'm gonna play their game. I'm gonna play their game where they blended jurisdictions, they blended laws, and they're gonna try to trick you when you come into a courtroom. And the the main questions they don't wanna hear is before you go, what's my individual CUSIP number in the case? That clerk knows that. And then when you walk into a courtroom and tell the judge that you want to see the bond, that is a huge, thing that's going to get that judge to walk off the case and dismiss it and tell you to pay a $25 administrative fee.
[03:24:34] Unknown:
Okay, June.
[03:24:36] Unknown:
They've taken you as the debtor and the creditor and they combined you into one. Congress gave us a remedy a long time ago for hypothesating the debt to pay for to pay the Federal Reserve for all the bonds that they're selling. And, there's a case called Guarantee Trust versus Henwood. And, but nobody in Congress wants to give us the remedy anymore. They want us to continue to operate as minors and debtors in the system and try to convince us that we're the one of the same, meaning we're a minor and a debtor in our all caps name and a breathing woman in our, or a breathing man in our creditor name. And when that's not the case, we are the original creditor.
And it all comes down to the creditor debtor. It all comes down to the creditor debtor and the system because And what are those terms used in
[03:25:38] Unknown:
contract law? What overcomes the constitution contracts?
[03:25:42] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:25:44] Unknown:
You have to bear in mind securities back the contract. You have to dispense with the contract, and that's what three six three thirty one CFR three six three point six stipulates. You have to take control of the securities of the minor account. Now how to do that
[03:26:13] Unknown:
I've got to get rid of the fact. You have to get control over your minor estate. Right now, you're the grantor and you're the the account. It doesn't say estate. It says account. It's the same thing as an estate, Sherry. No? It's
[03:26:28] Unknown:
Yep. Nope. Nope. Nope. Yes, it is. No. It is not. Yes. It is. Okay. Well, when they use terms account, they mean account and look that term up legally. Nope. They
[03:26:45] Unknown:
use equivocation. It isn't in the state. Our securities are in in in in a we're in receivership. The government's been in receivership. It's a trust. And they use equivocation. They use the word SEPTAKV trust. They use which they they use legacy estate. They use trust estate. They use accounts. They use they have I have written all this stuff down. They use set off an equipment's account. They use all these things interchangeably. All it does is it's part of your minor account. And if you don't take over it, you that's what you need to do. You need to revoke and reinvest these securities.
Those are the exact terms. How do you revoke it? I'm trying to with ten ninety nine a, b, and c forms as well as tax credits, I'm trying to figure it out, Sherry. I work full time. I'm not retired, and I all my spare time I spend on this. I'm getting closer.
[03:27:39] Unknown:
Right. Well Can I enter that first? 99. Yes. But just really quickly, a ten ninety nine is an IRS form. The ten ninety nine a, a stands for abandonment. And the court does okay. Okay. I I I'm just putting it out there. What the court, operates under is the bid performance and payment bonds, which is not the ten ninety nine a until it's abandoned. It is. It is. Okay. Okay. Well, it's not abandoned.
[03:28:14] Unknown:
Okay. You and I are gonna disagree. Every time you go into courtroom, they've already pulled the ten ninety nine a, And they've extracted funds from your debt off and equipment's account, otherwise known as your SEPTA KB trust, otherwise known as your minor account. Because you haven't taken control over it. I have studied this until I'm blue in my fucking face towards my French call. You can delete that, and I'll send you a donation. I'm sorry. I like it. I I think I know what they're doing here. I know exactly what they're doing here. I have a CPA and an MBA. Okay, guys.
[03:28:55] Unknown:
Hang on. I'm gonna I'm gonna put a stop to the argument, by taking the, taking the program down. So I'm, I'm I'm also going to mute, every every, line that is making noise. There we go. Got them all. Okay. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Wednesday, August 27 edition. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on eurofolkradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network. And our website is thematrixstocks.com, where you will find the links to join us using free conference call live on the show. Ciao.
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[00:01:56] Unknown:
Yep. You can try again right here at the Radio Ranch on the twenty seventh of, August, the Wednesday. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. The title label, if you will, of our little two hour get together here six days a week. And, so let's see. Paul, I know you're there, buddy. Morning. Yes. Hope so. Got another solicitor. Well, no. It wasn't yeah. I guess it was some kind of a call this morning. Anyway, wrong number. You usually come out and give us all of the folks that are helping us, our compadres to extend our reach all over the globe, and we wanna give them proper recognition and credit for doing so, if you would, mister Beaner.
[00:02:43] Unknown:
I will do that. Thank you, Raj. We are on 106.9WVOUFM in Chicago, part of the NET family of broadcast services, which includes homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, and stream life.tube. We are on radiosoapbox.com, thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink who has his own censorship challenges. Boy, things are really getting crazy over there. Boy, are they rolling. Yes. We're on Global Voice Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net, or that link, is on our website, thematrixdocs.com, as well as the links for free conference call to join us live on the show, which brings me to the where it all began is our anchor platform. Thanks to pastor Eli James. That is eurofolkradio.com.
That link is also on the website, thematrixdocs.com, and we cannot thank him enough for giving us a place to anchor our message and to call home. Thank you, Raj. You're welcome, Paul.
[00:04:04] Unknown:
Paul, have you heard what, all the crap that's going on in your hometown area up there?
[00:04:10] Unknown:
My hometown area?
[00:04:12] Unknown:
Well, Minneapolis. Right? Minneapolis, Saint Paul, and that kinda where you call home?
[00:04:17] Unknown:
Well, that's that's where I started.
[00:04:21] Unknown:
Okay. I I don't know if you heard. I just heard on Harrison. I didn't hear anything about it yesterday. There was a couple of shootings in Catholic churches up there, eight people dead. Numbers of people wounded. One guy walked into one of it's on the South Side Of Minneapolis, walked into the Catholic church. They were having a mass or a service as a commemorate school starting, walked in and dropped 30 rounds on them out of a two two three. Oh, nice. And then the same day, there was another day before, same day, there was another shooting where, at another Catholic church where a couple people were killed. So it's like the wild wild west up there evidently.
I didn't hear a word about it. K? So, anyway
[00:05:07] Unknown:
It is is that was was that the Saint John's Basilica?
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I don't think so. I don't think that name that doesn't ring a bell. He just he said in the report what church it was. I just don't remember. It's on the South Side Of Minneapolis, but there's but like I said, there's two two or three shootings up there in the last couple of days with fatalities. So yikes, what else? Good morning, everybody. Lot lot lot going on, I guess, really. I've got a couple of things to talk about here as we get started. But just to say, the show's really for new folks, but you can't help but cover these news events and a little bit of getting in the groove of the show here at the start. So in a minute, we'll check with you and see if you got questions or comments because, really, the show's for you.
We just hadn't had enough new people here lately. We did with with Todd and his gang coming on with a surge, and we go through, ups and downs of this. You know? It's like learning. Learning is a series of plateaus. Have you ever seen that Explained, Paul, you know, you learn something, you go along, and you go a steep up uphill there on the graph, and then you go along on a plateau for no telling how long. And then the next little spur to learning goes up, and it's another rise, hockey stick curve type stuff. And then and, so that's, I guess, how we're progressing. You know? Something will happen. We'll get a few people. We're growing.
So much slower slower than I would, of course, have anticipated or like, but, this isn't totally my ballgame. It's the big guy's ballgame. And so when he's ready, you know, it's like the old saying, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. And it's kinda like that. So we'll wait for him to open the door for us. You know, the the realistic thing, though, is the worse things get, the more impact we're gonna have when that happens. I at least that's the way I see it. So we just keep yes?
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The only thing that I'm seeing as far as the shooting in Minneapolis is, the Annunciation Catholic Church and school. And Yeah. I think that might be it. There were fatalities in both buildings.
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Yeah. Well Unfortunate. Another attack on Christianity. You know, this is the the big deal. Satan's coming out and, predicted the course in the Bible. And it's all tied to, something called code the clergy plan. Can you tell us about that, Paul? The clergy plan?
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No. I don't know nothing for that. Wow, man. I sucked.
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This is what's going on. And I've heard this before, but never in the detail like, Harrison went over it this morning here in the, second hour, first hour too, I guess, a bit. This is a guy I I can pronounce his last name. I've never seen it spelled out, but the clergy, I believe. And he had a weird middle name and a weird first name. He was around Europe. I'm not sure what country back in the nineteen twenties wrote a book where the Jews were the master race and the way that they were gonna take over the world would they had to they have to go after the white Christian societies and, break them up or or or disorganize them. You know, what what does Brent say?
For it's confusion in the enemy's camp. Well, we got a lot of confusion in our camp. This is the other side of that. This guy called. I can't spell it. I just kinda know how to pronounce it. You never heard of this, Paul? No. He wrote a book. I can't remember the name of the book. Actually, Hitler took part of his, book thing and called the Nazis the master race. He was calling the Jews the master race. And that they, their their ultimate goal is a thing called the messianic age. Have you ever heard have you ever heard of that? No.
Messianic age? Paul must run off after the giddy. No, hon. No. I'm here. Okay. The Messianic age? Correct. You've never heard of this. This is their ultimate goal. I years ago, Gordon, I attended. I'll tell you what it was. It was a little thing to remember, oh, the guy with the orangutan, everywhere, McQuade McQuade, Every which way but lose and and did that show, that movie with, Clint Eastwood, I believe, about they shot it in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and he had her this orangutan. You you have any vague memories of that? Well, it was a guy him and his bunch, they're Patriot guys. Randy McQuade, is that it? Him and his Patriot guys did a a seminar up in Georgia. They're the ones that were saying that, they gained jurisdiction by having a mailbox on your property.
K? That was one of these things. Oh, yeah. Look. Well, that looks like it connects there. Well, it doesn't. The only thing the federal government owns, so your mail box is the inside of your mail box.
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Outside Randy Quaid.
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Randy Quaid. Thank you, Joan. The the outside, the mailbox, all that is your property. You went and bought it and installed it. But inside that mailbox is the post office's property, federal government's property, and you can't that's why you can't put stuff in people's mailbox. If you had a flyer or something, you can tape it to the outside, but you can't actually put it in the mailbox. And that was their deal. So we, we went up there and, there was a chiropractor from Columbia, South Carolina that was there that had a copy of this book about the messianic age. It was a, it was a book that would they they had found it in the University of Texas library, and, I don't know. There's a part of the library where you can't take books out and stuff like that. And it was in there. It was written by a rabbi, and, he made copies of it. I he actually sent me copies. I've unfortunately lost them along the way.
But that's what their ultimate goal is, called the messianic age, Paul, and that's when they own everything through this usury and then, of course, sucking all the money up with all their scams. And, and, they will take over the world. They will own everything, and each one of them will have 200 of us as their slaves. That's called the messianic age, and that's their, that's their goal ultimately. So he was, clergy was, part of that, mentioned it in what Harrison was reading a little bit this morning. Yeah. These are such rotten bastards. And this is the where my friend's husband, former listeners' Husband was, raised in Chicago, and his father was a doctor. And he had they sent him to, Khalil, which is the synagogue school. And at six years old, he's in there with these other kids, and the rabbi, you're better than everybody else. You're better than everybody else. So that that's this crap here.
I guess if you lie, cheat, steal, and murder and the other people won't do it, does that make you better than them, Paul? I don't know. I guess. In their mind in their mind, I think it might. So regardless, the clergy plan was invading Europe and and the white Christian societies with all these foreigners. You're seeing it play out. That's what all this stuff in Europe's about. And it's been for gosh, how many years has that been going on? Ten years when they we used to see these those hordes of blacks coming up from Africa and marching. They go to Greece, and then they come up and try and get in the soft underbelly of Europe, or else they come to Italy or else they go over in those boats, in the shallow, narrow crossing there at Gibraltar with, Spain.
So that's the clergy plan is all this invasion. He was actually the guy that started the European Union. He had the first vision of all the European countries together, common passports, I guess, common currency, all that. This was this clergy guy. So these are the, the roots of a lot of bad stuff we see going on and are experiencing today, unfortunately. So I was just, here
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yeah. Just ask Paul English what he thinks of the EU and The UK.
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He would just accept or recognize any any of them. Well, I understand Paul and the way he thinks and and stuff like that. And, yeah, it's just, well, and that's another thing I wanted to get on. That's about all I had on the clergy plan to make sure you knew what it was. Yes. There's Bob. Hey, Bob. Morning.
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Good morning. Yeah. A little color commentary. It's not Randy Quaid. In fact, they're not even related. Okay. It's John Quaid. He actually was born near Kansas City and grew up near Topeka. Okay. And, Yeah. He had a pretty good career. Yeah. That wasn't his that was his stage name. That wasn't his given name. But, at any rate, yeah, he was an interesting fellow.
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Well, he was was kinda there, but he just wasn't quite there. You know? He was they he was a lot of paid well, he was on the patriot path. He just didn't have the right little narrow part. And Exactly. Every as I said, for all these years, our whole community has been searching for what's the nexus. What gives that unsecure unelected bureaucrat the power to take existing regulate or or a law and and alter it, and turn it into a regulation and then enforce it on me. What what is that? Where does it come from? And, of course, that's what that's the needle in the haystack that everybody's been looking for. Thank God for John w Benson.
You know? But, yeah, they had a they came across just a second, Larry. They had they, came all the way from California, him and his bunch. And, to do this seminar, it was up in Northeast Georgia as, kind of an unusual place. I don't remember the town it was in, but they took the train. They wouldn't fly because that was we're in the early days of the searching and all that stuff back in the nineties, and they wouldn't fly. So they took the train all the way over and all the way back to my knowledge, to that seminar. And, the one thing I gleaned out of it was this messianic age thing written by a rabbi, of course. Yes, Larry. What do you got this morning?
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Yeah. I've listened to a couple of his, videos, and he, I believe he also taught I I believe he also taught that you should get rid of the, Social Security number because he believed that was what you the term that you use, a nexus to be it free. And I was just wondering, I'm sure you you've heard a lot of these patriot teachers over the years teach the same, if you wanna call it a doctrine, that the Social Security number is what's keeping you in bondage. Where where did that come from, Roger? I have no idea. How about calling it a dogma?
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I I think all of a lot of these look at people are looking for this answer that we've got here, and they see two things that appear to connect like a Social Security number. Oh, everybody's gotta have one. That's what they want you to use on the TAC forms. That's gotta be it. So you see the reasoning there. The logic, as Brent would say, logic is a hork. Well, in this instance, it is a whore because it's wrong. And, but that I don't know where it started, who came up with that first. I just know it doesn't apply because anybody in the world can contract with Social Security.
And, there there is no nexus there, and I can also prove it to you, I think. Get you in a second, Julie. Because when I open you know, if you when you get of retirement age, pension age there, you have to open your account. It's an account that you signed up for that's been feed fed by, you know, half your employer's contributions, although whatever the rules are. But then when you go and collect on it, you gotta actually open that account. And I was in Argentina at the time, and, I actually included my affidavit in with the person I was dealing with at the embassy to open the account. So if there was any nexus going on, it would have shown itself at that point.
Just more patriot mythology, Larry. I mean, hell, we try and combat it around here all the time. Okay? Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. You you still by filing the evidence affidavit of evidence, citizenship evidence, you may be a national. However, if you look at the Supreme Court case, Ashwander versus Tennessee Valley Authority, the Supreme Court looked at seven different tests to determine if you had constitutional rights or not. And, if you've waived your rights in terms of taking benefits and privileges, then you don't have constitutional rights. And one of that was if if you've accepted Social Security and you've accepted a benefit of privilege and you're operating as a minor. Well, I don't even have waived your rights to My benefit
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is a is if I'm came in the country with the migrants and got on Social Security. That's a benefit. I have an account. I contributed to it out of my working years. That ain't no benefit. That comes from the Social Security site, by the way. K? So do more of this stuff. And, hey, Julie. What about the Supreme Court? They can't even agree on what the definition of income is. How about those guys? Yeah.
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Well, that's that's on purpose.
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Well, do you are you sure?
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K. Yeah. I mean, the IRS doesn't know what to ask from a holy grail. They want you to continue to pay taxes. They're gonna confuse you at all at every single Please, Julie. Please. Don't go off on a tangent. The Social Security
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has no nexus to jurisdiction. If so, per you know, I just I'm gonna argue with you all day long. K? Because it doesn't. If there was any nexus to it, it they it would've backlash when you applied your affidavit. When opening my account down there. So, anyway, our stuff works. That stuff doesn't. If you wanna go try it and chase it and try and intellectualize it or see how it fits into this, you'd be my guest. But, there is no next Can I ask you a question?
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Of course. Can I ask you a question? Of course. What about how does the how does the driver's license license fit in for a Resident.
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Resident. Because now you're a federal citizen and driving is not or traveling is not a right. It's called driving, and it is controlled by them because they have a property right in you. And you had to according to the head of the driver's license division in Idaho. Transportation division is the guy that oversees all that. Brian Howard had a, an elongated exchange with them in a suit type situation, administrative appeal. And on the third letter that the guy wrote, Ryan, he came finally admitted, we can't issue a state issued driver's license to anyone who's not a resident. I came from the head guy in the state of Idaho in the transportation division.
The residency ties you back into federal citizenship. See, they've done all these things to tie you back in, to this where they get you to, oh, yeah. I'm a resident. You think it's the wrong thing. You think you live here. It's not. It's political. And you not knowing volunteer that, and they'll give you one. That's what we know for sure.
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K? So, basically, they're using that term resident, equivocation. They're using it dual elite whether it's Of course. You have to ask them whether you're whether it's geographical. So when it comes to the driver's license, it's geographical. And when it comes to the fourteenth amendment, it's your political status. Well, no. It's not geographical. It's political.
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When they ask you, are you a resident before you go through and get a driver's license, It's just like them asking you the two questions. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? They don't say of Virginia, of Massachusetts. Never. They just say, are you a resident? Same thing here.
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Okay.
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Alright. You see you see hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Do you see what I'm talking about, Julie? Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Now there was a guy and a girl. The guy was promised first, so I'm gonna go with him. I'll get you a second. Go ahead, sir.
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It's Christian. Hey,
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man. Alright. Hold on. K. Let me get Christian first here. He stepped forward and identified. Yes, sir?
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I wanna thank you, Roger, for clipping the wings of the Patriot stuff in the past, and you stick to keeping it simple. And and, you know I try. No. You do it. You do it real well. And, I, want to ask you, when I go into the passport, post office and get a passport, do I fill it out there, or do I take it home, fill it out, bring it back? Fill it have it filled out, they're just not signed,
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And then take it in the post office, and you have to sign it in front of that guy. Oh, okay. Alright? Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're very welcome, Christian. Now there was yes. Okay. I think that's Marica. Yes, ma'am.
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Yep. It's me. So what you're explaining is that, the US citizen is trapped into that contract because of the resident and US citizen party.
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Which contract? Oh, we talked about driver's license. We talked about social security. Yeah.
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Okay. Driver's license. Okay. But for us as nationals, we can contract using that driver's license. But it's not we're not we're not acknowledging or, confirming that we are a resident or a US citizen.
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So I just wanted to when you say that? You you did it when you got the license. Now some people have said, like John or some of these other folks, have gotten in there and put, like, key threat du duress coercion, CDC or, yeah, or UCC 1Dash308 or whatever it is now. And put that in there. Some people get away with it evidently. All rights reserved. Yeah. The latest the latest, Jim Ram didn't. Jim Ram, a retired policeman, got that initially on his license. And then, look, a couple of weeks or a little bit later, he pulls into the driveway, and there's some kind of a black car behind him, comes out and ask him for the driver's license and takes it and says you gotta go get another one. K? So some people get caught at it, some people don't. Regardless, there's a couple of things I guess you could do. You could go to the driver's license division after you get your license and send them a copy of your affidavit and just say, I this is something that, I I that I have I have acquiesced to you partially. Well, you you know, sometimes you are driving in compers maybe.
Right? Right. Right. So sometimes you would be using commerce. Sometimes you wouldn't. So there's a lot of fine hairs here. Okay?
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You can type it.
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Go ahead.
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Some some people put all rights reserved,
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as part of their signature. If you can if you can get that, over your over, above, or below your signature without them noticing, good. Try it. I I don't know how successful you'll be. Okay? Regardless Okay. And then I'm gonna go back to freedom and liberty.
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Christian You're gonna successful with using the, acronym, all rights reserved, and I'll tell you why. It it protects you from hidden conditions such as being a resident. In addition to that, having a driver's license while you're a national is not prohibited. You see, if they don't write a law if they don't write a law that says you cannot do it, that means that you can do it. Meaning that you have a dual status, but you need to declare at the time they stop, okay, what that status is and what you're operating in. I'm sorry. I'm operating privately right now. I'm sorry. I'm operating in commercial right now. Here's my driver's license. But, Helen.
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Yes. Go ahead. I was gonna get to that. I was gonna get to that. When Roger was in explaining, I was gonna say, you know, you you as a as a national, you can still contract no matter what. If you're commerce rights are always reserved with your affidavit.
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Yeah. If you're in commerce, you can use your license. And Your, like, your rights are always reserved. And one of the matter what clever things that one of our listeners came up with lately, I don't remember who, but then if you get pulled over like that, you hand them your passport. They said, do you have a driver's license? Says, yes. But I'm not operating in commerce right now.
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Right. Exactly. There's a really good response. Operating in the private. It absolutely works.
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Okay. Well, anyway, I'm just trying to address this, and I forgot where I was. But, anyway, it's, it's one of these things you can maneuver around. As John said years ago, they can't I can't remember how he said it. They they you almost have to have one because you don't wanna face a sub 100 IQ cop with a Glock on his hip on the side of the road. K?
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I I I have a little bit to add to this, but I haven't done the full research on it yet. What we're referring to is what is referred to as a Monel violation. Whereas policy, or a misinterpretation is being followed. And, how this is established is by notice. So if you have a document that declares or declaration that declares that you are a national and you provide that to them, again, there's not much you can do at the side of the road. However, when that gets to court, the Monel is now reviewed in the fact that they have legal notice.
And that legal notice provided at the time of the stop, I mean, I I I carry, title 18 with me. And if I have any problems or if it's, seems to be a a listed stop, I'll just prevent present that and just shut up. And there's That one I've had very good success doing that. Go ahead. Ask you a question the other day. You keep referring to title 18. Title eighteen's criminal. How are you prosecuting a criminal case? I am not prosecuting a criminal case. Title 18 is referred to as positive law, and you've heard that, term a lot. Positive law refers to the prohibitions of government activity.
It does not it is specified in the constitution that they're prohibited to do these things, but they had to codify that if you did these things and prohibit, that is prohibited,
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that it is a criminal act. So that is what's created title 18. And you can't you can't bring a criminal case. Only the government can bring a chem criminal case. Yeah. But you are actually obliged in order to report a title 18. Okay. Well, I can I appreciate that, but you can't bring it? You can threaten them with it, but you can't hold their feet to the fire with it.
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You can't. But in Monel, they are forced in order to hold their feet to the fire themselves. That's the beauty of Monel.
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Okay? Never heard I've never heard that before. I've never heard that before. I've never heard that before. M o n m o n. Hold on. M o n e l l, and it's called the Monel doctrine.
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Okay. And, you will want to combine that with the absurdity doctrine. Okay? It's called the absurdity doctrine. You can, look this up. It I have just completed a fifty day crash, third level year, lawyer, application for this in a in a lawsuit that I'm working on. So, and it dates back eighteen years for Mummel violations. It's a $42,000,000 lawsuit. I won't get that, but, I mean, it's justified at $42,000,000. And, it's been accepted by the court already. So,
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What what case did this doctrine come from? Obviously, it was Monel was one of them. Do you have Well, it works. It's it's the same thing as, somebody putting up no photography at a police department.
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Who had the authority in order to bypass the constitution and the first amendment? Well They policy. They they have It's it's policy. That's correct. Okay. Tennessee meeting. They and and they decided that they can just simply come to your house and put a 12 foot fence around it and force you to ID every time you leave and come to your house. Obviously, that's wrong. How is it wrong? Well, that's the Monel doctor. Okay? That they can't make these, fantasy policies that they want to enforce even if they place it within the statutes.
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Okay. Well, it's totally new, new law to me. Sounds good, though. So, anyway, back to, back to what we were on the driver's license thing. It's a sticky wicked
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yes.
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Go ahead. Never mind.
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Well, no. You go ahead because now I've lost my train of thought. Go ahead.
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Yeah. You were talking about driver's licenses. Julie Julie came up with, I forget what it was already, but I wanted to include contracting with if you've already paid into unemployment of your state, a national should still be able to collect unemployment. Correct?
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I think so. I would think so. The just barring you from would be discrimination, wouldn't it?
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You can't be try that. Not be obstructed
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please.
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In in commerce. You cannot be obstructed from that. These elements of commerce are part of that, so therefore, you're entitled to it. It's not a benefit. It's not a a waiver of your rights. Now in there is some, public aid that you can receive that has for your children, and they have embedded illicit things like, well, we can walk in. If you get public aid and you're getting food stamps for your kids, we can come and inspect your house anytime we want. Well, obviously,
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that's wrong, but they have attempted to do that, and that's where this dogma of of permission is coming from. Well, I think if they're giving you money for something on your children, they've got every right to come in and inspect as being used correctly, don't they?
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Yeah. Otherwise, they would be complicit in child abuse or child neglect.
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So Not at all. Where's the burden of proof?
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The burden that you you received the benefit, you owe the duty. If they're giving you money for something, they have Alan, can you let me finish, please? Yeah. Go ahead. If they're giving you a benefit for something, then they have the, you have the duty or they have the right to come in there and check and make sure it's being used correctly. You receive the money. You it tacitly agreed to that formula.
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You passively agreed.
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Tacently. Tacently.
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Well, here's the problem with that. Even if they have that in writing, they have to have a burden of proof to violate everything above it. I'm sure. Contract
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when you sign to take the money that that's all in there.
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It isn't. Well, it is, but it isn't. It's not it's not authorized.
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Well, it's a it's a it's about the same thing as ours, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. It's a very similar formula. They're just using different words.
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It's based on a hierarchy of of, statute. One one high one statute will outweigh another, and your right to privacy and freedom, whether receiving that benefit, is a higher higher, statute than,
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their not a third citizen in The United States.
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Comment. Go ahead. Okay. Before this I'm lost here. Completely before this goes completely off the rails, when you apply for public assistance, it is in the contract that they have the right to, do home visits and to verify that, they are paying for a space that is livable and that is suitable for in for to be inhabited. And you waive your right to privacy when you sign on the dotted line and take money.
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I agree with you. It's a nonstarter,
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dude.
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Bob?
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Don't make it so complicated. Have you heard of this thing called the feudal system?
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Yes. Everybody, man.
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Everybody wants basis of the program. Don't argue about the minutiae. You're in the feudal system.
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Everybody wants to complicate stuff, folks. K? I simplify
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it, please. Haven't rebutted the when you haven't rebutted the presumption, you're under their jurisdiction, get it through your head.
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So anyway May I say something, Roger? Yes. Who's this married? Is this married?
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Yeah.
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Remarry.
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Well, your discussion on, you know, basically, when you're accepting privileges and benefits, which technically I am because yesterday I had my home visit. Okay. She came to have me sign paperwork for Danielle's Danielle's program Right. Which is state funded right now because her federal CILO funding is frozen, meaning she's not in a group home anymore. She is now home. Right. I am caring for her. So access services in Illinois, my husband is the employer. Danielle is the client. I'm the employee. Okay? Because we're tax exempt. Okay? But there's a crap ton of rules that you have to sign because I am operating in the public. Yep. And because you're taking the funds. Operate correct. I'm taking the money. So, I mean, it it it is what it is, and you can learn to operate in the public and in the private.
You can learn to do that. This is why I was so scared to do this process because she cannot lose this program. And I was afraid because of how it's set up, and they do have the right to come in my home whenever they feel like it. Yes. They had a DCFS came to the house and inspected the bathroom to make sure that it was handicap accessible, to make sure her bedroom is handicap accessible, and the house is clean.
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Yep. You receive the benefit. You owe the duty.
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Yep. I did. Yep. I have a duty to and it it is in this contract because I'm reading it right now. Yep. There you go. Yield. Okay. Thank you, Bill. Roger.
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Murica.
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Bill Thornton goes into, being a, private individual and being a US citizen sometimes. So he uses the benefit of being a US citizen whenever he needs it and then goes back to the private when, you know, when he's done with it. Let's go back to the driver's license where this whole round robin started. K?
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Yep. You can be a national, still have a driver's license because maybe you've got a job, you know, like Tom Schramm used to be on here. He he's big fisherman, and he'd go out and trap minnows and go sell them to bait stores.
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K?
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And so when he was driving to go fishing, he was not in commerce. But when he went and trapped a bunch of shiner minnows and had them in the back of his car and was taken to sell them to a bait shop, he was in commerce. K? So you can be a national and still be that. I'm just saying there's a differentiation and there's a time when that could apply to you. It might not, but it may. So these are all these stick look. Get a driver's license, register your car, and and drive below the damn speed limit. Don't don't run stop signs. Don't run red lights.
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K? The only reason I I I don't have a driver's license, Roger. I the only reason I would use a driver's license is if I was in commerce. For me, either, you know, trying to understand traveling, you know, driving in the private. You have to understand everything that you're doing. Well, look. Where where all that stands?
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You you could come up with two pages of court sites on supreme court, appellate court, state court, all that saying that driving is a is a privilege and and all these other things. Yeah. You go put that in front of a damn judge, and he ain't gonna recognize it. So if you wanna fight that battle, go ahead. I suggest there's other bigger buy battles to fight. Now we had a very positive outcome where that doesn't apply. Just this week with Shane on Monday, it was to regurgitate Sean. Shane is a to regurgitate the deal. He, him and his wife got pulled over several times.
Seems to me they took his passport card one time. He drove. He backed out of a traffic stop and got into a high speed chase with him, several different incidents there they had over several years. And finally, he's in the middle of all the court stuff and he goes, well, hell, I'm just gonna call the sheriff. Calls the sheriff. I'd like to sit down and explain this to you and show you what's going on. The sheriff is open. Maybe that's the time we're in where there's so much confusion and so much contradiction that people even in that capacity are looking for answers. I don't know that's the case, but it could be. Okay? I know there's lots of people that are looking for answers right now. Alright? So he's open to it. And Sean and his wife go in there and explain what we're doing to him, and he drops all the charges that have been compiled over years.
So there is a there is a a pony in the stocking, I guess, if you keep your arm down in there long enough. You know?
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There's another call. And you have to understand the difference between public and and private.
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I got all kinds of calls. You want me to go should I go answer it? Okay. Y'all y'all continue here. Let me get rid of it. Roger? Yeah. Hold on, Boris. I got I got phone calls coming in, man. If I can mute this stupid thing, which I can't.
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Yeah.
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Oh, wouldn't you know
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wouldn't you know if they hang up? Damn it. Paul.
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I'm So so, Roger, I was I was saying that, you know, it's up to us to understand the difference between public and private. We're in the private. Okay. And then we have to understand what what stands, in our protection under natural law, in common law. Okay. Even though you are in commerce, sometimes,
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you know, you you're still protected. Just please drive under the speed limit. Unless you just want to go through a period of time where you're dealing with all this court crap. If you really thrive on that, will you go do it? Okay? But my experience is you may win. You may get like Sean did. But for the but they've stolen years of his life to get that. Now was that worth it in that instance? Yeah. Maybe so. But for most people, it's not. But if you wanna do it, you go do it. You go ahead and learn for yourself. Okay? I'm just telling you, it's just what an old patriot told me years ago.
Only choose the battles to fight that you know you can win. That's one you don't know you can win. Roger? Yes. Is that Samuel?
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Yeah. It's it's my understanding if you're gonna make a Get off on this track.
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Crap.
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Go ahead. A claim through if you're gonna make a claim, I think, under the Monnell doctrine, you have to reside in that community. So it just puts yourself back in jurisdiction the way I look at it. No. Well, they're not talking. That's a geographical
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definition. We're talking about a political definition. So I'd go in there and say, who wrote this law? Who which one which definition are you applying? Because this isn't geographical. This is political. They really use they really, really have this system fine tuned with all this crap. I I think I I
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I think I understood what he said is the fact that if you are claiming a Mongell violation that it would be only in the commercial sense. That's not true. Absolutely not true. He was talking to no. He was talking about being a resident in the community, Alan.
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He wasn't talking about commerce, I don't think.
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Well, the if you're a resident, it it it that would be irrelevant because, Monel actually applies to international law as well. It's it's sweeping. It doesn't matter what topic that you pick up. It's a it's an illicit policy, and it's a it's a doctrine in order to, get rid of an interpretation rather than a statue.
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Okay. Well, it's something that we've no. Nobody here before today, I don't think, has ever heard of this. So, we're totally new and onto it, but maybe, may not be. K? I've just never heard of it before, Alan. K? So you say it says in there, did you look at something,
[00:45:22] Unknown:
Well, yeah. I everything that they're doing, like, since the thirties, the rules of federal Why I ask about I wanna ask about Manel. And and everything else is important. Answering
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yeah. Go ahead.
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Have I answered? Have you studied it? Are you have you studied this? Have you heard of it before?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So in that, what you of this stuff is aligned with international law. The rules of federal procedure are to get us to a new world order. Staying in their system is a trap. We need to use use this national status
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and understand how to enforce it and not go into their system. Okay. I was gonna ask you if you're familiar with Bunnell here. It says you have to be a resident of your community.
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I'm pretty sure you have to if you wanna make make that claim. Well, we can't go in. It's a 78 it's a 78 Supreme Court case that that is often brought up when there's police abuse and things like this that Alan's concerned about. But I think you're just you you you're you're ruining your own national status by taking on a claim like that because you have to reside in that community or you don't have any reason for a claim. Okay.
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Again, you're please. Please. Please. Please. Damn it. Please. You say reside in the community. That is a geographical definition, not a political one.
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I think the the presumption is both.
[00:47:04] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So we got opposite definitions again. Okay. Let's drop this, please. If that's the point we're at in this discussion, then nobody knows anything about this, really.
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Hey, Rod.
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Roger. Actually, I just did a a GPS search on it for generalization, and it does recognize that the, national has full access to Monell because Monell is any action by the government. Any action by the government can be, questioned under the Monell, and it wouldn't matter whether you were a resident or not.
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Okay. Larry, do you have some something you've been searching this?
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Yeah. So getting back to the state of Utah where the student, that you often tell the story about was asking to get a driver's license, and they were asking if you're a resident of the state. I believe that's
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that It was Idaho.
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Was it Idaho? I thought it was Utah. No. It was Idaho. Okay. Alright. Let me get get back to looking at something then. I thought it was Utah. No. It's Idaho. If we were using Utah, I think a lot of times they're asking for a geographical definition because I looked up Utah and says to prove your Utah residency, you must provide present two of the following documents dated within ninety days. And it gives, like, a bank statement, court documents.
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Right.
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It's a geographic and then we go and and I guarantee you if you look down a couple of paragraphs, there should be a sentence that says residency is a rebuttable presumption.
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Yeah. I I found that,
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in Georgia for you that one time, and it's in a couple of other states. Well, that's because all the traffic law okay. Here, lesson time. That's because all of these traffic laws are called uniform. If they're uniform, they're the same in every state. That's so they can control from the top down. Go ahead.
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Right. So if we were talking about Utah, I went to their their DMV website, and, they're saying that you have to provide documentation according to four categories. And the first category they call the US citizen, says required documentation for US citizen, US nationals, and permanent resident aliens, then they need, four documents, from the following three categories. And, so anyway, category one, you gotta show you gotta show, different documentation, approve your identity. They they'll take an unexpired US passport, a certified copy of a birth certificate, a consular report, valid unexpired permanent resident alien card, certificate of naturalization, certificate of citizenship issued by DHS, And then category two, they need your social security number. So if you will provide either a w two or a pay stub, they got a couple of other documents. Category three, Utah address, two of the following displaying your name, address, and date it within ninety days, and they say you could provide a bank statement, a court document, a current mortgage or rental contract, major credit card bill, school transcript, a utility bill, vehicle title. I think what they're looking for is according to a a geographical definition as in terms of residence in the state of Utah.
[00:50:48] Unknown:
Not quite. That's in every state. Every state has those requirements in their traffic code because they are, once again, because they're uniform. Same as the uniform building code. Same as the uniform commercial code. Same as anything that's uniform is in every state, at least similarly has the same information in there. This is so they can control from the top down.
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Hey, Raj.
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Yes, Paul.
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Just about everything he mentioned just about everything he mentioned is, indicative of the receipt of a benefit. You know, a school, school record or, and I forget what other things he mentioned. But if if you receive the benefit, you owe the duty. So those proofs of identity prove that you're a citizen of The United States in receiving federal or state benefits.
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It didn't I guess. Doesn't get any clearer than that. How do we always get off on this traffic crap?
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How does this apply to a person that is coming here? They're they're nonresident. They just got here, and yet they have all these wonderful benefits, without any obligation to uphold.
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I think that's because the communist that's because the communists were in charge. Yeah. K?
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I,
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what the old Bob Seager thing? We we break every rule that'll bend?
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Yeah. Hey. Hey, Alan. Please go into your Zoom configuration and turn off automatically adjust levels on your microphone. Because when you first unmute, you get super loud and then it corrects. So just turn that automatic stuff off, please. Thank you. May I may I? Yes, ma'am. You may. Sure. As long as you're gonna change the subject.
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Yes, please. Who are we speaking to?
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This is Nancy. Oh, Nancy. Nancy from Virginia. Hey, girl. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Well, it's it is a question for clarity around the term residence and resident, because, you know, I think it was last week I brought up, from my county, their, it's not a summons for jury service, but a questionnaire. And on there and I I read these, but I'm I'm still in the question about this. It does you know, Virginia is different. Like, with the voter registration and this here, evidently, they ask if I'm a citizen of The United States Of America. Yeah. Which is an s y m. Yes.
Right. And yeah. So that's but, listening to some other things around resident, I think and please correct me if I'm, I don't have this correct. Is the term they've dropped the the term itself resident, they've dropped alien from it. So it always means As from Patel's law of nations,
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yes.
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So if we're not talking about a colloquial use of the term or geographical, because this is something that I have to sign, you know, and test attest it as true. So it's a legal definition whenever they ask me about my residency. Like, I am are, have I been a resident of Henrico County County, and have I been a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia for the past twelve months and six months respectively? So it's a legal term. And isn't it is it not true that it's tied, of course, to the fourteenth amendment res residency in the state wherein they reside as a I'm no longer a federal fourteenth amendment citizen, so I'm not residing
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anywhere. Question. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. You are residing somewhere. See if you could figure this out. Where is your residency?
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Well, I'm a citizen of Virginia. Mhmm. But the term residency is a temporary nature. I domicile here.
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Right. You're not you the way they're applying this term is from is from ambassadorial law. Remember that. They do a head fake on the geographical part, and they may use it in there sometimes. I haven't seen every paper from every damn state in the union. I've been out of the country for seventeen damn years. Okay? But the that's the origination of it. And if you look deep enough on the Internet, you'll find that. But you gotta really search down two or three levels to find it. Okay? So that's the way they're the term is underneath being used. So your residency is what, Nancy? It's where you receive your rights and discharge your duties, isn't it?
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Correct. I mean, well,
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I don't know. On the first law, they imply first in the first law in the first black law dictionary.
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Does doesn't a residency imply a temporary state?
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In the first black law dictionary under residency or residence, it says where you stay to receive your benefits and discharge your duties. That's your residence. So you filed your paperwork. Where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties?
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Well, god.
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So your residency is in heaven, isn't it?
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It is.
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Okay. Well, there's your answer.
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Okay.
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That's that would be under natural law. Right, Roger? Sure.
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Well, if you if you're not, then you're claiming to be a resident, you're under the fourteenth amendment. If you file this paperwork, you come out of that, you're under God's laws with constitutional protections. That's where you get your capital r rights and o your capital d duties. So that should mean, according to all these things that are lawful and legal, that your residency is in heaven. I I kinda like the sound of that. Roger, the You know what? I figured this out on a plan. From that. Go go ahead.
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The protections are from God. They're under natural law. Yes. They're secured by this by the constitution. Correct. They're secured by the organic constitution.
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Correct.
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I figured this out, Nancy, when I was government. In Argentina. And, I wanted to go up to Doug Casey's deal up in Northern Argentina. And it used to be before that time, you'd have to fly to Buenos Aires and then fly back to north of where you were. And they had a flight that they instituted where you could go from where I was up to where I wanted to go without going through VA. So I decided to do that. And, on that plane, they give you these little papers. You You know, if you've I don't know if you've flown internationally or not, but if you do, they give you these little papers on, are you bringing any fruit and all this stuff. And one of the questions they ask you is, where's your residency? And that's what started me thinking about this originally, and I thought that through and came up with the answer I just gave you and the audience here. So, and I think that's very accurate. Alright? So if they ask you and you where's your residency? And, like, I'm I've got a residency in heaven right now because I have don't have a residency in The US, and I don't have a residency in Argentina, and I don't have a residency in Ecuador.
So my my residence is still heaven too. Well, that's pretty cool. No wonder they don't want no wonder they don't want you to know this information. Well, hold on. I'm having a conversation with Nancy. Let's get back to that. Okay? Okay. Alright. Nancy, do you understand that? I'm pretty sure that's your situation too.
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Yes. Well, that that it really helps to clarify because, I when I see the word resident now and I'm signing something legally, I know it's a legal definition, and it ties back to the fourteenth amendment, and I'm not that. So I wanted I'm think what I will do is draft, a letter Okay. Which I'll attach to this
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cost. I'm gonna give you a reference. Hold on. Here. Nancy, hold on. Back off.
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We're gonna go ahead and be on WVOU for the next hour. So, I don't have to do that.
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Okay. Thank you, Alan. We don't have to do that. Paul, you're you're discharged for today. Okay. Back to Nancy. Go go have a beer somewhere. We're, back to Nancy here. And what I wanted to tell you is, something you may want to use in your response. You may have to do just a little bit of research. Okay? Go to a law library, and you wanna find a group of books called words and phrases. Just ask the library, and those points you to it. Okay? Okay. Now that is a collection of law books where they take important keywords and phrases out of court cases the way they've been used and applied, and they give you a glossary of them.
Okay? So what I would like for you to do is to go to words and phrases and go look up the word resident.
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K?
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Whenever you I don't know what all will be in there, but I know one that was in it when I looked at this years ago. Whenever the term resident is used in any legal context, its definition is always legal. Words and phrases, resident. Go look it up. Okay. Alright? And then when you get that, you can use that or anything else you find in there, in your, in whatever you're gonna write them. K? Alright. Very good. Good. Now there was another female trying to say something Right here. You know? And I don't think it sounds like a female right there. Yes, Sherry. Go ahead.
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Well, it's very interesting. I have flown internationally, and they use the term duty free shopping.
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Yes.
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And that word duty free. You owe no duty.
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That's right. And just when we well, I'll give you an example. We had a a airport about 10 miles away from me here. You have a duty freeze area. And so you get in the airport, you're going to your plane, and you can buy stuff. Or when you get where your destination is, you can access these stores, and you don't have to pay the state tax and stuff on them. So that's what you're talking about. Right? Correct.
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But I have a question. What prompts that is that the residency question because I never considered it. It was 2005
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and I I 2000 I have and six.
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I have no idea. It's a Wouldn't you think it precedes it, though? And the word resident applies worldwide.
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Yes. That's why I say it's the key word in the whole new world order scheme. Because every country wants you to be a Absolutely. Okay?
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Mhmm.
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Why? So you Why do they want you to be a resident? So they can be you owe the duty. No. Because then you're under their laws, and you've agreed to it.
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Correct. And so what people have to bear in mind, when you say you are a resident of a county, whether you're thinking is juris geographical or legal, all counties are political subdivisions. So your county sheriff or your coroner, whoever is the highest Uh-huh. Head of that county, it's always political, and they can overcome. And and if you choose to be a resident of your county,
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it's a political choice, and I yield. Okay. Well, the if you go by that court case that I saw there in words and phrases years ago, anytime the word resident is used in any legal context, its definition is always legal. Okay? Well, that's not local. That day day day you know, when they're asking you, you know, you know, because they don't ask you that in this federal document. They'll never ask you if you're a resident of a state or an area. They ask you just if you're a resident. K? Keep it keep it very vague. So but if that definition from the court applies, so anytime they even use it in state documents, it's still legal. It still pertains to the fact that you're under the laws Washington DC then, doesn't it?
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Yes. It's still political. Okay. We have to correlate political
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and legal. Not and not geographical. And you see in the traffic Correct. They've got a mix. Here, if you've been in the state ninety days, you got all this proof and that stuff Larry read us a minute ago, then you're a resident. And then there's another paragraph in Georgia anyway of stipulations. And then underneath that, there's one sentence. The term resident is a rebuttable presumption. And if you follow through in those earlier ones in that paragraph, then you have, volunteered into the presumption, haven't you? Haven't you?
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Correct.
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Okay. So it is it is a very tricky word, and, and I've maintained for years if anybody wants to do an etymology, a search on the word, whenever you find where they dropped alien from Vatel's resident alien, you'll probably find the origins of this plan. Nobody's ever taken me up on it yet, but I'll brought you. If somebody did, that's what you'd find, the origins of this little scheme here. I have something, Roger, too. Built built on the fact that don't forget and this is for Todd. I don't know if Todd's with us. We hadn't heard from him today or not. But years ago, five, six years ago, we found a book on Bitshoot. You can probably still a talking book where they read it in on exactly what we're talking about here, voluntary servitude, and it was written in 1577.
This is not a new idea. K? Yes. Mirka and somebody else wanted to say something. I'll get you second, Samuel. Go ahead, Mirka.
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Roger, you know how you say, it's, international, the resident the word resident?
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Well, I know every country uses it. Part of the
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it's for the, they're trying to use it for the new world order. I've seen cases where they talk about US citizens, and I think also including residents as federal citizens. So it's because people are participating in the federal system, and it's making that that's what they're trying to impose is control over the federal citizens. They're trying to get you to individual, but
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They're trying to continue They're trying to get you to continue to reinforce your your presumption. Oh, are you this? Yep. That's me again. Or next next week, I gotta say, are is this you again? Yeah. It's me again. And all they're doing is reinforcing the presumption that's already established.
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Right. The federal citizen that they're trying to control the federal citizens, which they're imposing on the private
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at the same time. Yeah. Okay. There's another female there. Who was it? Ma'am? You wanna step forward? Than me right here. Some Samuel was weaned too. Samuel?
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Yeah. I just have one basic question, Roger. You know, if you take the resident that's in the fourteenth amendment and, you know, they wanna say that fourteenth amendment is is merely a legal framework. Well, in practicality, it's both political and geographic, isn't it?
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Well, I I'll I'll go back to the what I read in words and phrases so many years ago, Samuel. Anytime the word resident is used in any legal context, its definition is always legal. That comes from some court decision. Don't remember which one.
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Yeah. And they're placing you in The United States. I mean, I I see all the stuff that follows. I mean, everything is based on that stinking amendment.
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You know? Everything. Everything they've fallen ever since. Under the first clause. We've never even gone into any of the other clauses on this show in fifteen years. You don't need to. Because of the clause and we understand it, everything following in the fourteenth amendment applies to who? Fourteenth amendment citizens. Yeah. Why would we go into the rest of it?
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So when you're when you use their system to protect yourself within their system, you have to be one of their subjects.
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Or else they don't have the jurisdiction. Subject to jurisdiction subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And Yeah. Yep. It's a tricky little deal, boy. The more you get into this, you get into these discussions and this line of thinking, you go, holy smokes. These guys are slick. They're just slick. Now they had this thought out originally over a hundred and fifty years ago back in the time of civil war, I believe. But, yeah, we didn't get to the clergy plan until 1925. More solidification of their little scheme. It played right into their corner. Hey, Roger.
Hey hey, Wahi. I gotta get back to Bory in a minute here. Yeah, Wahi?
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Yes, sir. Was that Boris? But, anyway, I'm I was thinking it's like a labyrinth.
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It is a labyrinth. It's like a damn maze, you know, that you put a mouse into. It's just in henceforth, the I mean, look at the proof is in the pudding. How many decades did it take for somebody to figure this out? Four or five decades? Six decades? And people started questioning in the late fifties as they started getting everything set up and completed. And then into the seventies and you get the none dog none dog call it none dare call it conspiracy and the Gary North books and the other stuff that started the original patriot movement, I guess. But, it's taken us fifty years to figure it out.
Forty.
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Roger?
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Julie. No. Yeah. I gotta get back to boarding in a minute. Go ahead.
[01:10:45] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to ask you. So then how do you answer that question on some sort of application or something if it says, are you a resident of Arkansas, or are you a resident of California? How are you talking to your parents?
[01:10:57] Unknown:
I've never I've never seen them ask that question.
[01:11:02] Unknown:
Well, I've seen them ask questions like, are you a resident of such and such county before?
[01:11:08] Unknown:
Well, then the the I think, the you you wanna go back and ask them the question? Are you using this in a geographical or political, definition? I Julie, I don't know. Okay? I just say all I know is the minute you say you're a resident, it's gonna be applied. It ain't you live here. It's what set of laws are you under to my knowledge. Roger, I know Boris is gonna come in, but I wanna explain Well, I don't know if he's ever gonna come in. We can't get to him. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sure after after he goes I wasn't done, Martha. Alright. Go ahead, Julie.
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Yes. So did you say what set what set of laws are you under? You said so that means what set of laws are you under? Well, if we're nationals, which means we owe a a duty to the state, then aren't we under our state laws of the national?
[01:12:04] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, you're under God's laws and constitutional protections. Any state laws that are written for residents don't apply to you.
[01:12:14] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you for clarifying me clarifying that to me. That's what I wanted to know. Thank you. It's a tricky little word because nobody understands the definition.
[01:12:24] Unknown:
I'll bet you can't find one damn attorney in in the country who understands the correct definition of the word resident. I'd be willing to bet you can't find one. So now you're fighting. See the it's the same old story. We go in here. We've got to reeducate these people.
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Roger, you need to ask your friend, your attorney friend there in, Argent or not Argentina, Ecuador
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what the definition of resident is. Well, I he was, I don't have our I don't have a a lawyer friend here. I had a lawyer in Argentina who's very sharp, and I Oh, okay. Don't have contact with him anymore, unfortunately. Oh. But I don't have to ask him to give you the information.
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Who brought forward
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He was a he wouldn't be the final word on it. You can do the research No. But he understood the definition of person, and maybe he did. But I doubt if he understood this. I doubt if he understood this. This is a a term that I guarantee of you. You could go in front of judges they don't know. This is more of the skullduggery of our enemy right here.
[01:13:37] Unknown:
I've got the definition if you wanna hear it.
[01:13:41] Unknown:
Okay. Go ahead.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
The meaning depends on tax, voting, domicile, jurisdiction. It changes in each one of these. Yeah. Immigration law, it changes. It, says non resident noncitizen who is legally granted the privilege residing
[01:14:01] Unknown:
in The US. As a green card holder.
[01:14:05] Unknown:
H, USC one one zero one a 20. The status includes green card eligible for naturalization, can be removed only for cause. Tax law, it has a completely different meaning. It means, pass the green card test or substantial president's test in a hundred and eighty three days over a three year look back. If you've been in The US for over a hundred and eighty three days over a period of three years, you are considered a resident. Someone who physically resides in a state with the intent, and this is domicile law, voting eligibility. And each one of these definitions, depending on its application, has been terribly euthanized.
I I
[01:14:57] Unknown:
yield. It's a very tricky word. They have intentionally I'll give you the perfect example of what started this conversation about an hour or something ago is the driver's license. Blackstone's definition I don't guess Todd's with us because he hasn't responded today. If you go back and I if I was to ask some of your new students Real quick, Roger? Yes, ma'am.
[01:15:25] Unknown:
Todd is, battling a sciatic nerve issue really badly. So he's trying to take care of that. He's been in the last couple days. I'm sure sorry. I'm sure sorry. We need we need to talk to Todd about getting one of these wands.
[01:15:39] Unknown:
That sounds like something he would want to try. It's very, very good on anything, nerve oriented. So we'll talk to him about that when he comes around. Okay. Now I just want to let you guys know. Okay. Well, what I was trying to get to and have been for a little bit, especially for you new new folks, Mary, is this term freedom and liberty and how it relates to the driver's license. If I was to ask all of you, especially the new ones, is could you write me a paragraph on what freedom and liberty is? Well, there's no telling what you'd get. You know? Long paragraph page, two pages. But Blackstone in his commentaries and the brilliance of Blackstone was he reduced this down to one word, and liberty is locomotion.
The ability to go from point a to point b unimpeded. That's liberty. Interesting definition, one word, locomotion. See, that's what they're doing with the driver's license is they're impeding the, diminution of your liberty because you've gotta come in and say you're a resident, which means you're volunteering under the fourteenth amendment. That means that if you wanna put it another way, when you tell them you're a resident and a driver's license application, it triggers and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Because if you're subject to the jurisdiction thereof, you're either a citizen of United States or a state wherein you reside in or is in there.
K? So there by volunteering into that subliminally, subconsciously, and under the surface, you're going in and saying, yeah. I'm under the fourteenth amendment. So you see how slick Do you see how slick these people have got this set up? I mean, it it is really that's why I've said for many years, no no mere mortals that has set this up. This is and Brent said that one day at the close. Of course, Brent and I have been going back and forth on this for as long as we've been on the air. Okay? And the other day, we're closing out a show. What did Brent say?
[01:17:54] Unknown:
Damn it. Yeah.
[01:17:57] Unknown:
Oh, Brent says, he says, I don't think they're that smart. I said, Brent, it wasn't them. This is old scratch here. K? That I I they they conjure up your devil to come up with these damn schemes, folks. I'm 100% sure of that in my own opinion. Yes. He was the, hey, Roger. Boris, I'll get you We never got back to Who was the who no. It was this guy right here.
[01:18:25] Unknown:
Lori was waiting in on our Facebook page. I know. You could call me Joseph.
[01:18:29] Unknown:
Hello, Joseph. My question I think we can kinda piggyback on what you're saying right now is Joseph, is this the first time to be Joseph, can I stop you for a second? Is this the first time we've spoken? Yes, sir. Okay. Well, how'd you find us? And, where are you located in the country?
[01:18:52] Unknown:
I'm in Arizona, and I was contacted or I contacted, Fifth Flow. Okay. I don't know who they are. I don't know who's their first name, but it's f I f. Yeah.
[01:19:09] Unknown:
Well, I thank him for sending you to us, Joseph. Nice to meet you. Now what what was your query here?
[01:19:17] Unknown:
Yeah. My curiosity was about the letter to Rubio. And so if perhaps you can ground in for me the idea of what were what do we wanna include in the letter to Rubio and what would you good not to include in the ready in the letter. And then how does that how does that maybe, connect with the resident?
[01:19:39] Unknown:
Well, you're you're disclaiming that residency even though you had earlier. Every time you've ever had been asked in your life, they said, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Right? And you signed something. So you have agreed with their fraud every time they've ever asked you in your entire life, and that's what you're removing yourself from here. K? The cover letter you're Right. To Rubio is very simple. Just say, please find something to this effect. Please find the enclosed citizenship affidavit, a citizenship evidence affidavit. It's important that you use those words to me because that's how they identify an affidavit like this internally at the state department.
Citizenship evidence. Please find the enclosed citizenship evidence affidavit. Please correct any and all records concerning my political status in changing from a citizen of The United States to a national. I'm just giving you suggestions off the top of my head here. Okay? Please adjust your records accordingly and sign it. It's nothing involved. It's very simple. They know what this is. Mhmm. So you're not explaining anything to them that they don't know. They know the implications of it too. At least some of them do. So that's very simple, and you'll wanna get that off.
And then you don't have any skeletons in your closet, do you?
[01:21:16] Unknown:
I do not. And so if you would, how do you tie in and why why don't you answer if they ask, are you a resident, why don't you say I'm a national? Well Wouldn't that trump?
[01:21:28] Unknown:
Well, are you talking about when they ask you those questions in some sort of a loan application or something? They don't ask you. They're not gonna ask you. You're you're declaring what you are. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. So you're thinking you gotta ask permission. You're the boss now.
[01:21:45] Unknown:
You tell them what you No. No. No. They're not gonna ask. Not. But what I'm thinking is these, these Leos who are on the side of the road, when you're talking about the license is really where I wanna tie this in because that's Don't you don't wanna don't fight that battle. We're a lot of this. No. Don't fight that battle on the side of the road with another IQ cop with a block. I agree.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
Okay? I agree. Nice. You do whatever. You sure do whatever. He may be amenable. He may not. There's some of them, I guess, are. Then say don't try, but don't argue and get into don't try the case on the side of the road. That is not the outcome will not be good.
[01:22:27] Unknown:
Yeah. So my my train my train of thought here because I've I've dealt with this. I I had this issue, in Florida, and I went to court for almost a year for it. Oh, yeah. A lot of fun. A lot of fun, wasn't it? You know, the judge wasn't Yeah. Wasn't that a lot of fun? The judge was not fun. Okay. No. And, it cost me more than, I would say it was worth learning, but but it was a good lesson. You know? I mean, anyway, at any rate, I don't have a license, and it would be a penalty of perjury if I was to go get a license because I'm not interested in doing commerce. And in that sense, what I'm my train of thought here, what I'm trying to ask is use the national status as some sort of trump card to override, this idea of the framework around the resident. We would do that. I agree that we shouldn't argue on the side of the road. But Correct.
[01:23:27] Unknown:
What we do usually try here is just point somebody in a direction to where you'll go ahead and interface with the court, but you interface with them on an administrative level. In other words, you would take you take a copy of ticket, all that stuff. Best to do it within three days because you might can even void it in three days. There's a school of of thought here that people say you can do that as part of an administrative appeal, and you submit your affidavit and everything. Although you've already put them on notice, so you haven't even gotten to that part of our program yet. But here in this specific situation, you would go and try and do this administratively by paperwork and see if they don't just dismiss it. K? So you may get that successful. You may not. You see, here's my problem with all of this Yeah. Is I can't give you a definite answer as to who the sitting judge is and who the sheriff is in your county or where you got this ticket. It may be judge Roy Bean and Boss Hogg, the sheriff.
And if that's right, they don't want some young punk like you coming in and telling them what their duties are and what they can and cannot do. So I can't I can't give you a not dealing with the feds. Yeah. It was Joseph. Right? Dealing with the feds, Joseph. We had no problem. We've never we've never had one case of blowback that anybody suffered from the feds. But these local jurisdictions, I just don't know what they're how they're gonna react. That's my problem with this traffic stuff. I get real frustrated because I can't definitively give you I understand what you're saying. K.
But that's the way we would rephrase it in a different way or somebody else could Well, no. You're asking how you would interface with that and how the national would apply. Get the ticket, sign it, and within a couple of days, it go and launch on this administrative appeal. Send them a copy or affidavit. Tell them all the background. See how they react.
[01:25:34] Unknown:
Well, that's fine. I'm not a resident, but I think one of the first questions that I have heard them ask as a next sort of rebuttal, if I say I'm not a I'm not a resident,
[01:25:48] Unknown:
is where do you receive your mail? It doesn't make any difference. What you are is your truth, it's not theirs. If they're asking you and trying to trick you, then they're being tyrants, aren't they? You've got an affidavit on file with the highest official. You got a affidavit on file which states your position. It's on file with the highest authority on that matter in the whole damn country. And then what we're gonna suggest you do is go apply for a passport card, include your affidavit, and you're gonna have the highest form of identification that the federal government issues. It's gonna be attached to your affidavit with your political status.
How are they gonna overcome that? I have a How are they gonna overcome that?
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Right. So in this sense,
[01:26:36] Unknown:
is it a five star passport and are we I I I I You have the pass port. Okay. You you submit your stuff, and if you're antsy about that, you see there's no consistency on what your card says. We got some people that come back with a number that says they're ambassadors at large. We got others that come back and say they're diplomatic couriers. We got others that come back and say they're American Samoans, an o nine, which they're hiding the national under. So I can't give you a definitive answer on that. I can give you a way to get the definitive answer Okay. Is send in a privacy request just like a FOIA except for your own personal information to the passport office and ask them what's in your file and see if your paperwork's in the file because that's what matters.
And that goes back to a supreme court case in 1835. It's on our website.
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Mhmm. K? What is your website?
[01:27:33] Unknown:
Thematrixdocs.com. So you haven't even been to our website yet. Well, that's good. Well, thank I think you'll thank whoever pointed you this direction. So, anyway, we've got the goods on these bastards. It's tried and proven. I've been doing this, teaching people for fifteen years or more actually, but on the air for fifteen years. And as I said a minute ago, we've never had one incident of blowback from the federal government in fifteen years. That's a pretty good unblemished track record. Wouldn't you agree, Joseph? Wouldn't you?
Joseph, are we having a conversation here?
[01:28:25] Unknown:
Did you go away? For the third time, it kicked me off. I just got back on. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Hear you now. So in that pretty good track record, fifteen years unblemished? Negative.
[01:28:40] Unknown:
Negative? Okay. Well, what do you expect? How many years do I have to go? You, Roger.
[01:28:45] Unknown:
He was booted off. Repeat Okay. Please. I I should I've been getting booted off too.
[01:28:51] Unknown:
Well, we can understand about you, Wahid, but we can't understand about Joseph here. They may be having a snafu. I'm kidding, Wahid. What I was saying, Joseph, was that I've I've been teaching people this and helping people go through the process for fifteen years. There's never been one incident ever reported to me a blowback from the federal government on any of this. Would you agree that that's a pretty good unblemished track record?
[01:29:22] Unknown:
I would agree.
[01:29:23] Unknown:
Okay. That's where we are. Where we have problems occasionally is in The States. Okay? And what I'm gonna tell you is what I tell everybody else here that's new is if you really wanna be free, you're gonna have to learn the information and be able to defend your position and teach others. Those are the two things you need to get an adaptation of. Be able to defend your position if you're challenged, which you more than likely won't be, but you may be. And be able to teach others because the only way, Joseph, that I can protect my liberty here in Ecuador is to help you protect yours in Arizona.
[01:30:00] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay?
[01:30:02] Unknown:
And so we always So I gotta get May I, Roger? I hold hold on a second. Let's get Joseph first. I heard Bob. I heard Sherry. Joseph, what were you gonna say?
[01:30:14] Unknown:
I was gonna ask, now it's an of of course, it's gonna be an opinion and and the only I guess I can just go find out on my own. But, after I have sent the letter to Rubio, and I guess I'm not expecting anything in in return. So it will be I would have to I would have to write something in there about an acquiescence after a certain amount of days. Is that correct? Yeah. You're you're there he you this is something you don't understand.
[01:30:43] Unknown:
This is your decision, not theirs. Everything's got to be voluntary. If it's not voluntary, it's tyranny. If they're trying to back you into a corner and tell you you're a citizen of The United States, that's tyranny, isn't it? Mhmm. They'll never be open tyrants. They know what happens to open tyrants. That's the reason this whole thing is turned around the way it is, where they can ask you those two questions and get your approval to sign something and your agreement to their fraudulent scheme. What you are is your decision. They're not gonna challenge you on anything. K? Especially if it's an affidavit form unless it's wrong. If it's wrong, they've gotta write another affidavit, sign it under penalty of perjury, contradicting the facts in your affidavit. And then their affidavit stands. Well, not only can they never do that, they never will do that because then they're open tyrants if you're not correct. And we're correct.
So there's not gonna be any kind of of acquiescence if you agree, don't they? What you are is your choice, Joseph, not theirs. Here's a big learning Okay. That's clear. For you. Okay? So what you do, though, I got that. I got that. That's clear. Cool. Then what you do wanna do after that is apply for a passport card. If there's any problem with your NCIC check or any of that stuff, they'll let you know. And they may send you a bluff letter on top of that that they do occasionally. But, otherwise, they're gonna send you back The their acquiescence is to send you back the passport card that you ordered and paid for that the affidavit is attached to in your file.
Alright.
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I guess one of my questions one of my ideas is that so in my area, it's not policed by, plea it's not policed by police. It's policed by sheriff.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:32:44] Unknown:
I just And in that sense Well,
[01:32:47] Unknown:
Joseph, you know the problem is you don't know our program here yet. So you've not been to the website. You probably never heard any of my interviews. You don't really know the background of what we do and why it applies and how it applies. And I appreciate all that. But what might be a better idea, we're on Wednesday now. Why don't you, between now and tomorrow, go listen, and I'll point you to a good interview or two, and go listen to them, and then come back. I think they'll answer your questions and give you a much broader idea of what we do here and why. Okay? This is not any kind of willy nilly conclusions.
What I'm introducing you today here too is the result of over one hundred years of legal and lawful and historical research in three men's lives. So it's not chopped chicken liver. It ain't some kind of patriot mythology crap. We've overcome all that. We've got the real answers. And the and and the way you prove that is, is our slave former slave masters agree with us because they don't ever say anything. They agree with everything we do because everything has to be voluntary. And if they don't agree with what we do, they're open tyrants. Let me let Bob in here. Yeah. He's got something, Kojah, to say probably. Bob's an old student. I mean, he's older, older like all of us, but he's been around here for a lot of years. Yeah, Bob. What kind of, things you can tell Joseph here?
[01:34:23] Unknown:
Hello, Joseph. Good to meet you. I suspect, Roger, that your your V Darcey fell on deaf ears because he was in and out. Okay. Joseph, it doesn't matter what your passport looks like. It can have five stars. It can have no stars. It can have this endorsement. It can have that endorsement. It doesn't matter. It's not the passport. It's the evidence that you've submitted to the secretary of state, and they've got in file in your in your master file at the Department of State passport division, that's that's still good law. That's the, it's it's on the website. Right. So forget about this, about how many stars, and does it say this, and does it say that. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It is an ex parte document.
[01:35:13] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:35:14] Unknown:
And that quote further says That's understandable. And I just got I just went on the website too. I just wanna mention that I see that there's a a link for private plates as well. And, I'm curious if there's a I'll look through this, but maybe there's a,
[01:35:30] Unknown:
email that I can start a correspondence with you directly, Roger, or if there's another way you can point me. Well, I mean, on all correspondence on what? I'm on the air six days a week, two hours a day for these discussions. Is it something real private?
[01:35:47] Unknown:
No. No.
[01:35:48] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then I'll handle it. I'll handle it. Well, that's the reason we're here is to answer and address all these things for everybody, not in a private communication.
[01:35:59] Unknown:
And don't forget about the after show.
[01:36:02] Unknown:
Yeah. We're here after the show's off the air. Some of these people stay on this damn channel all night or half of it. So, Joseph, you can always come on here, and I insist on education. And that's why these folks you'll interact with here, they're pretty educated on this stuff you'll find.
[01:36:24] Unknown:
I love that. I appreciate it. Thank you. I've got just man.
[01:36:28] Unknown:
Oh, god. I've got I got Waheed. I got Sherry. I'm trying to have a conversation with Joseph. Joseph, were you about to say something? No. I was just saying thank you. I appreciate that. That's very welcoming. Alright. Well, let's go to Sherry first. Waiheed. No. I'm gonna go to Waiheed. You've been trying to get on for five minutes. Waiheed, what do you got? Please don't make this about Mars or something. Why am I why do I keep getting why do I keep getting kicked off in the show? I'm not even saying no idea. Getting kicked up? Well, I don't know. I I don't know. But what's your question or comment now?
[01:37:03] Unknown:
I don't I don't I don't have a question. I don't have a question or comment. I wanna know why I can get it
[01:37:09] Unknown:
kicked off. I don't have a question. Why he didn't know why he They may something may be skunky with the software today. I don't know.
[01:37:17] Unknown:
K? But hang on. I think it's the Wahid hook. You know, that big that big shepherd hook that you're getting off the stage. That cane
[01:37:27] Unknown:
that cane with the cook in in the corner there? Does it go as far as Los Angeles? It might. Okay. Sherry, what's Listen. I can't
[01:37:37] Unknown:
best benefit to meet his neighbor, Brent Bachman.
[01:37:41] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Brent, where are you, man? Open up your mouth. Close, how close are you to Vegas, Joseph?
[01:37:51] Unknown:
Oh, I think it's about three hours. As long as I've been on these kind of calls,
[01:37:56] Unknown:
if everybody who is not talking can push star six, they use our phones, and so it it's not like I just discovered something. We just try we tried that, but if they get a call or something, it kicks the mute back off. So sometimes it's not even their fault. Joseph Allen, what do you find?
[01:38:14] Unknown:
It's real short, and it's amazing. I was looking for where this has been challenged in court, and people have lost and won and stuff like that. Here's a direct quote. The courts have ruled against national status claims. Wrong. No court loss on record has been found under 11
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o one a 22 claims. Yeah. And why do you think that is? Every single court case, which is very rare. Why do you think that is? I because they can't overcome it, and they'll never let the case go in their courtroom.
[01:38:53] Unknown:
That it remains completely unchallenged. It's the only thing I've ever I I've done a lot of research. I've always been able to find a case that that re reflects both sides. I have never had a result this way. That is huge.
[01:39:07] Unknown:
Joseph, as you grow here, you're gonna find this that you've stumbled into, and we're gonna unravel for you the damnedest plan of satanic slavery that's ever been on the face of the earth in the history of man. Nobody was supposed to ever figure it out. In their own words, from Colonel Mendel House with a letter to Woodrow Wilson. If only he says, only one man in a million could figure it out, and if one or two do, we've got plausible deniability. That's how that ends. And, yes, that may have been, but with 20 or 30,000,000 people finding out and with the water that's gone under the bridge, you ain't got no plausible deniability. You can forget that shit, slave boy.
The slave master. Mhmm. You're done. Roger? You better believe that Roger. Son of a bitches are listening. You slaving son of a bitches are done, d o n e. Put me on the top of your Put a pork at him. I hate you. K? They won't do it. Okay. We had Bob and Sherry. Sherry, go ahead. What were you gonna say?
[01:40:30] Unknown:
Yes. The only thing that overcomes the contract with America, the constitution, is commerce. Okay. So people, look at your driver's license. Two signatures. It's a contract. Look at your passport. One signature. It's a choice. And so be careful. Yes. So be very careful what you contract for because the constitution will not will not supersede that contract
[01:41:07] Unknown:
that you just signed on for. And if there's another backdoor way to what we're showing you because they can't impair your ability to contract, well, the only way you can get rid of your rights is to contract them away and give them away. In other words, what I was telling you a minute ago, they can't take them away. That's tyranny. They you can give them away voluntary servitude. And this whole plan is based on you answering those two questions your whole life. It's based on a presumption of law from birth, and then as you get into adulthood, they ask you those two questions throughout your entire adult life. And I'd say every one of us in the country probably answered them yes if you weren't qualified. No. If you answered them yes and you signed something. Now what there there's the first layers of fraud right there, Joseph, is the first question. Are you a citizen of The United States?
Because you see there's two distinct, political statuses, and they don't ask you both. They don't say, are you a citizen of The United States or a national, do they? So that's a leading question with lack of full disclosure. So there's the first layer of fraud right there, and it just goes down. I probably could name off five, six, seven layers of fraud underneath that. Okay?
[01:42:26] Unknown:
So that's I definitely don't disagree with that, and I just wanna add to what what the woman said. I've I'm sorry. I forget your name. But Sherry. The license is piggybacked by the Real ID, and the star in the top right corner on the license automatically contracts
[01:42:44] Unknown:
somebody who holds that license into the Real ID. I'm sure it does. See, that's all I need. Talking about. Yeah. Well, that well, that's part of it too. That's brand new. That's only the last couple of years. I'm talking about from having issue, okay, as they started it. Yeah. But your passport overcomes that, at least for flying and getting into better federal buildings the way I understand it. And we have people that once they get that passport card, Joseph, that's the only ID they use.
[01:43:14] Unknown:
Driving and everything else. No. I'm not I'm not completely agreeing. I I understand what you're saying. I have a a book passport book, and I've been to lots of other countries, and I've been back in The States. I do not have a license, and I'm not interested in getting one because I definitely wouldn't sign up for that real ID, which is the backdoor that we're talking about. And and Right. It is fraud and it is tyranny, and that's what we're talking about. But we're gonna have to rebut that presumption, and that's why my questions are formatted the way they are. Well, that's what the affidavit does. It rebuts all those presumptions.
[01:43:45] Unknown:
It shows all of them to be fraudulent based on the initial fraud. And nothing trumps the affidavit. Well, see, what what what Joseph doesn't know is you don't even know our whole program. You just know part of it, submitting an affidavit. K? You didn't even know about the passport. Well, you can just do a renewal. Keep your book. Your book's still open. Right? Your passport book you travel on. Right. Okay. It's still open. Just do a of of of of of d, '82 and just order a passport card and include the affidavit in. K?
And then you will have the passport, which you have the affidavit. That you Well, there's a bunch of videos of interviews. I've been doing this since old Blue was a pup, for god's sakes. The there's a new student section over there on the right side there, and there's a particularly good interview, I thought. It is with the badass uncle Sam, if you know who he is, associated with Infowars over there. And, it's called God's Trump Card. And, but I've got a number of interviews on there. John b Wells. I approach it the subject differently in several of them. But there's enough there for you to listen to and get a grasp of what we do. What I was gonna try and explain to you is what we do on the back end of this to weaponize it. Because when you file the affidavit, you're called a national, but you're really a state citizen, the old state citizen.
Right? You got you got that? Well, is it a US national then? Well, that's a a matter of some discussion around here. But why don't you just word use the word national instead of US, and then there's no equivocations.
[01:45:32] Unknown:
Okay. Alright? Look up 28
[01:45:35] Unknown:
US No. No. No. Don't get him off. Please don't get him off on that right now. He's brand new, Sherry. Please.
[01:45:42] Unknown:
Okay. Fair enough. Well, I'll So what I'm gonna say is when you contract
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USC.
[01:45:48] Unknown:
Okay. So when you contract, it does overcome the constitution. So be careful of the documents you sign.
[01:45:57] Unknown:
Joseph, you're new to me and what we do here. You may not be new in the patriot movement, but when people come to hear from the patriot movement, they've been taught in most cases or almost all a bunch of patriot bullshit. K? So I'm a just gonna tell you that right front. And and and as you go down and address these, you just wipe them out of your mind. Because, you know, it's, it's what Mark Twain said. It's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled. K? So Roger. Uh-huh. Roger. I come with a beginner mindset. I'm I'm an open book. I'm here to learn. Okay. Thank you, Joseph. I appreciate that. Myrka, k. What y'all don't want me to have a conversation with Joseph, do you? Myrka, what do you got?
[01:46:42] Unknown:
I just wanna mention that nothing nothing trumps natural law. Natural law is superior to man made law. And our affidavit, we are back under natural law as a private individual, and nothing trumps our affidavit. No matter what contract you go into,
[01:47:03] Unknown:
it does not trump it. Well, don't say that because you can volunteer back in the world. Why don't you guys laminate that and carry it around in your Oh. Laminate what?
[01:47:14] Unknown:
Before we get far off track, I do have a minute thirty second summary of everything that we just just discussed. It is at a entry level. Can I go ahead and play it? I guess so.
[01:47:27] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
Breaking. Legal boom hold. National status redefines US tax obligation. In a stunning discovery gaining quiet traction, legal researchers and independent claimants are pointing to an obscure section of US law, eight USC for 11 o one a 22, that defines a class of people known as noncitizens or nationals. These individuals are not US citizens, but they do owe allegiance to The United States. They're most often from places like American Samoa, but this classification has wider implications. Here's the twist. Many who have filed paperwork declaring the status have received full federal tax refunds.
And in many cases, the IRS has never challenged them, not in court, not in audit, not even in letters. While US law says everyone must pay taxes, the government also declines US person in ways that leave room for interpretation. If you're a national without a citizen and you don't participate in federal programs like Social Security or use a US passport, there's growing evidence that the system treats you differently, quietly, and without banfare. Okay. Critics argue this status is being hit on purpose. It's in the law, but never explained. Okay. And the courts, they've never ruled against a clean, national, status based tax challenge. Not once. Silence speaks volumes. So what does this mean? Open quote. It suggests The US system is voluntary by design, and many may be under federal authority not because of law, but because they never opted out.
Close quote. If proven in open court, this could trigger a seismic shift in how Americans understand their citizenship, their taxes, and their obligations.
[01:49:10] Unknown:
Now that's, straight out of Okay. Well, there's there's some mistakes in there. I agree with that, but there is an obligation. When you took that, passport from the federal government, it is latching just the way the same way that public aid is. However, that latch is, broken somewhere else. Yeah. It's
[01:49:30] Unknown:
I I totally disagree with that. It's an obligation of the government, whichever before the fourteenth or not, to identify you to foreign nations. That's what a passport is.
[01:49:41] Unknown:
Well, this here does suggest that not only is it voluntary, but it is a, reason why they are not challenging it in court because as soon as it is decided in court, the get to court.
[01:49:55] Unknown:
They've already over as soon as it's decided, though. They've already tried to get it to the Supreme Court twice, Alan. They ain't gonna hear it. Once through DC and once through Utah. The Supreme Court will not take sorcery on this case. It'd blow the whole system wide open. Exactly. Okay. Roger. Joseph.
[01:50:16] Unknown:
Okay. I have a question. I have a couple I have a couple of ideas here.
[01:50:21] Unknown:
We might have to have a private communication, Joseph, just so I can talk to you. Yes, Larry?
[01:50:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I I was trying to get get involved with this conversation a while back, but people just interrupt. They don't say Roger. They just come right on and interrupt. Yep. And, Alan read off that definition, and twice I tried to get in. Definition 22, which is in the statutes at large, The United States Code, and the Immigration and Naturalization Act has nothing to do with what you teach. Definition 22 has two subparts, a and b, capital a, capital b. Capital capital a is The US citizen, and capital b is the noncitizen national, which all is also defined to be a the American Samoan. So that whole, particular statute has nothing to do with the state citizen status.
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Okay, Joseph. What they've done since it hadn't been brought up, but now it has, they have a whole third different political status called a noncitizen national. That is only, o n l y, people from an obscure territory on the other side of the freaking world called American Samoa. American Samoans have natural rights at birth. This has been since they were brought into the territorial system in nineteen o one. They have natural rights of birth. They own their own land. If you try and get an abortion, you can be charged with murder today. Whoever runs the island's government is the biggest landholder, and they do not get US citizenship at birth called birthright citizenship.
We're very fortunate. That whole issue is still on the back burner. I heard Barnes talk about it Sunday night. It's fixing to go as the Supreme Court gets into the next term. This is gonna be something we're gonna hear about. This hadn't been discussed in a whole more than a hundred and fifty years public, birthright citizenship. It's fabulous of us and our approach knowing what that is and its importance that we get to hear all the public discourse is gonna come up and has come up on this already. Okay? So there's gonna be already been some findings. There's gonna be more. They can't get rid of it or they get rid of the whole slave system because Joseph underneath burnt right citizenship connected to giving you a political status at birth depending on not who your parents were, but where you were born.
And the only system in history that's ever had that was the feudal system. So when they get birthright citizenship in, they get the camel's nose under the tent. Okay? You're getting a big drink of water here for a new guy today, but these people consist on it being brought up. So I'm gonna explain it to you. Okay?
[01:53:28] Unknown:
Can you hear me, Roger? I hear you.
[01:53:32] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:53:36] Unknown:
So I have a couple of questions and then a comment. And I'm curious if if anybody has added to their letter to Rubio that they are not a fourteenth amendment citizen and then if you and me laminated that and created that in your motor vehicle. It's it's not a letter telling him that. You're gonna send him a copy of your affidavit.
[01:53:54] Unknown:
The affidavit speaks for you. Here, I'm gonna recite verbatim the sample one that I wrote. I, Joseph from Arizona, do declare, under the penalty of perjury of the laws of The United States Of America, my intent to be a national with God given constitutionally protected capital r rights and not a fourteenth amendment citizen of The United States in a condition of voluntary servitude under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment. That's first paragraph. There's no wiggle room in there. You're not asking anybody anything. Yeah. That's all. You're telling them what you are. Right?
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Okay. That's clear. I have no question about that.
[01:54:42] Unknown:
Second paragraph. As a national, I am deceptively listed and labeled at 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a as a nonresident alien. As a national, I am nonresident to the residency and alien from the citizenship of the fourteenth amendment. Now that pulls you out of the IRS system. Sample affidavit. It's on the website.
[01:55:15] Unknown:
Okay? Yeah. I found it. I got it. Okay.
[01:55:18] Unknown:
You don't have to tell him anything except here's my choice. Register in your files. Change my status where it's incorrect. Adios. See you later. Go take care of secretary of state business. Trump's got you pretty busy these days. Now because you're a clean living kid and you don't have any skeletons in your closet, we give you the green flag to go ahead at the same time if you want and fill out a DS 82, tell them you only wanna order a card, and put that affidavit or a copy of it in that package. That is the only way to get out of the federal system is to let this guy know. And whatever comes up, it depends on whether the paperwork is in his possession or not. If it's in his possession, your status has effectively been changed. And should you get into any court b s because it's in his possession, you can automatically introduce it as evidence, and it bypasses the rules of evidence because it's in his possession.
Okay?
[01:56:31] Unknown:
Three minutes.
[01:56:34] Unknown:
What? Three minutes? Oh, I I guess we're almost at the end of the program here, Joseph. Okay. What I'm gonna suggest to you, because I like talking with you. I wanna educate you. Obviously, you're a sharp guy. How old are you, Joseph?
[01:56:49] Unknown:
42.
[01:56:50] Unknown:
Okay. Middle age, kinda. That's about when people start finding this stuff is in their forties. That's when I've stumbled into it. I've been looking for it and kinda knew something was wrong, but it was not until I ran across IRS stuff that I said, if they're screwing us this bad, what else is going on we don't know about? And Joseph, here we are all these years later, thirty thirty three of them and a little bit more today. Because that's how long I've been in this. Dogedly researching and trying to find answers. And the only reason that I have this knowledge is because one of my teachers was a legal expert who studied law his entire life, not in law school, but going back to the old law books.
K? And so that's why I know stuff that they don't teach this stuff in our law schools anymore. Judges don't know it. Lawyers don't know it. What's what's the underlying, formula for jurisdiction? What comes from the feudal system? Protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. When either one of those is instituted, the other is automatically instituted, and it's not a choice. It's an obligation and a duty. You remember seeing movies where you're seeing one guy talking to the boss and he takes his chest and hits his chest and goes, yes, my liege. You ever seen that in movies?
Yes, my liege.
[01:58:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I think so. Well, that's allegiance.
[01:58:20] Unknown:
A liege is the relationship between a liege man and his liege lord. This is futile stuff. And when I give you my allegiance, you've got to give me your protection. It's automatic. And this is the formula for jurisdiction. And what we're doing is we're changing our protector from the federal government back to the state. We switch our allegiance to the state. They've automatically gotta give us their protection, but they don't know it. This is stuff these guys just don't know. Okay? But that's what's going on. So That's clear. Go look at a, you know, one one or more of my videos. If you can, come back tomorrow, and we'll just pick it up and see what questions don't get answered by the videos, and we'll happy to enter answer them here. And as you can tell, there's a lot of folks that wanna volunteer to help you.
[01:59:13] Unknown:
That sounds good, Roger. Okay.
[01:59:15] Unknown:
Well, we thrive on new people, Joseph. And all these folks that have been hanging around here, they get to hear this stuff over and over and over again. Because the only way you ever learn anything is drill, practice, rehearse. And when you've done a lot of that, you go back and drill practice and rehearse some more. Okay. Couple of resources for you. Are you on Telegram?
[01:59:43] Unknown:
I am.
[01:59:45] Unknown:
National, one word status, second word freedom, third word. We'll hook you up with Merca here. We've got a excellent website called nationalstatus.com. It's pretty slick with AI kinda hooked up to it and stuff, and you can go over there and get a bunch of information. I got years of archives. We're on the air six days a week for two hours on the air. Now when this little whistler guy stops, we're we'll go into the after show, and if you you could stay here for eight, ten hours. K? So that's where we are welcome, Joseph. That's good. Whoever, whoever introduced you and pointed you this way, you'd go buy them dinner at the very least. K?
And I wanna know a little bit more about your travels because I live in Ecuador, been in South America sixteen years. I don't know if you've been down here much or not. But if you have, I'd like to discuss that with you too. So welcome or as they say here, bienvenidos. And, hopefully, we'll see you more and often, Joseph.
[02:00:52] Unknown:
Otherwise, if you're new and listening to Roger. Nice meeting you too. Have a good day. Yep. Yeah.
[02:00:57] Unknown:
And, we will be back tomorrow, and, we will have a nice day. It would appear from the weather, and, we will be back tomorrow. And I will see you then, and I love each and every one of you because every one of you are special, and and every one of you are chosen.
[02:01:15] Unknown:
Bye. Don't leave, Joseph.
[02:01:18] Unknown:
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Merge Merge's gonna get you now. Hell, you may never be the same.
[02:01:27] Unknown:
Myrtle's gonna write it down to you. So so is Myrtle. Myrtle
[02:01:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We got quite a crew around here. There he goes again. We're a big we're a big family. Okay?
[02:01:40] Unknown:
Roger, I found that, definition for resident in the California vehicle code.
[02:01:46] Unknown:
Yeah. What's it saying? With the rebuttals
[02:01:49] Unknown:
the rebuttal information.
[02:01:51] Unknown:
Oh, is there yeah. Yep. Well, you'll find it in every state because they're uniform traffic laws. They're uniform. They've got to be the same.
[02:02:02] Unknown:
It's under words and phrases, in the vehicle code. Okay.
[02:02:07] Unknown:
Listen. If you if you're doing legal research, Alan, do you use words and phrases at all?
[02:02:15] Unknown:
Don't know if he's still here.
[02:02:17] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:02:18] Unknown:
That's a that's a fabulous set of research books. Yes, sir.
[02:02:25] Unknown:
Joseph mentioned address. When they ask me for an address, I consider that a legal, political, and geographic question. And I don't tell them I have an address. I says, I don't have an address. I have a location. His address is linked to residency. That's what they want.
[02:02:49] Unknown:
Well, they don't know it. Repeat me. Well
[02:02:53] Unknown:
Go ahead. I'm educating as I go along in my daily life. And then Well if they wanna look if they want that location, I have a mailing one, which is a non domestic location, and I have a land one that has meets and bounds. And I hand them the meets and bounds. That's it.
[02:03:14] Unknown:
Depends on how far you wanna take it, Joseph. K?
[02:03:19] Unknown:
May I?
[02:03:20] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. You may. For the general audience, my just a second if I could. I'll get you just a second. My goal here is to affect change of some sort to some degree. And the only way we can do that, whatever, is with numbers. And so I try and simplify this as much as possible so the average guys won't charge any money for it. Be if I was charging money for it, people couldn't afford to do it. They'd steal it. Somebody give it to them anyway. So I just make it free because I want us all to help effect change. Alright? And it just depends on how far you wanna take it. The minimal amount works or you can get as sophisticated as Samuel is if you choose. And like I say, how well do you like to sleep at night, Joseph?
Yeah. I like to know my information through and through. Alright. Well, then do you do you take it to the degree that it satisfies you? Now let's hear from this charming young woman that was trying to say something I interrupted.
[02:04:26] Unknown:
This is Muse. Muse. I just want to let you know, I followed your process. I submitted to The US secretary of state my affidavit. I do carry a copy of my affidavit around with me. It's not laminated, but I do carry it around with me. I have my passport. I was recently stopped for a a funding collection stop. And I I hand I did use my passport. I gave my passport to the sheriff, and he went on and on and on about you gotta have drivers. I've gotta have drivers. So you gotta have a driver's license. I told him I don't have a smart ID. I this is the highest form of ID. He's like, you gotta have a driver's license. Gotta have a driver's license.
Now my driver's license is linked to my insurance. So I still do have one, but I use my passport as my way of communicating with them my status change even if they can't read it. He he informed me that my tabs were not current, because, I guess, the the state of Michigan decided they're going to stop mailing, tab updates or or license renewals to Okay. Nationals, I think. So I he he did write me a ticket. I didn't argue with the man on the side of the road. He was very frustrated, though. He he let it slip. He's like, who keeps telling you people this stuff? He didn't wanna know. He didn't wanna see my affidavit.
He didn't he he didn't but he's so frustrated because he's pulling over so many people that are changing their status in various forms, that he's just at his wits about it. So I filled out, one of the court documents, notice to set aside. I sent it with the with a check for the payment of of the ticket. I didn't sign anything. I sent that in, and I asked them to dismiss it with prejudice and let it go. They sent me back my check and a and then they scheduled me for a formal court hearing. So I was like, what the heck? What are you guys doing? And I included a copy copy of my affidavit with that when I sent it to them.
So I wrote down two additional letters asking them to answer the questions about, is there a problem with my affidavit? This is on file. They haven't questioned it. I sent out my notices like you tell us to do. They didn't respond, didn't respond, didn't respond. I went with a couple of witnesses to the to the court and sat in while they I witnessed them asking everybody that they were sentencing, you are a US citizen. You know that. Right? Or, you know, are you a US citizen? And they all said yes. US citizen. Yes. And and they just voluntarily complied to to all the questions.
And I told them that, I'm the authorized representative for the person they pulled over. And I was here to speak, and I I told the prosecutor that, I'm not a US citizen. And I I also included my passport number on my information. I asked them to please, you know, look it up. Crazy. The the, the officer couldn't show up, so they motioned to dismiss.
[02:08:36] Unknown:
That's quite a story, Muse. I am so proud of you. Joseph, one thing that will happen here as you get deep into this and the information starts seeping up into you is you get re empowered because you've been reconnected with God and the rights you were supposed to have at birth that were stolen from you. And so as you learn the information more and make it a part of you, you get totally self empowered, man. And you won't fear one son of a bitch that puts on a pair of pants on the face of this earth. K? So if that sounds good to you, the the your freedom, the level of your freedom is directly correlated to your ability to defend your position if challenged.
If you if you can't if you hadn't learned much, well, I don't know. I gotta call this guy in Ecuador and ask him. Well, that ain't gonna work. It's your freedom. This is your responsibility. If you want it, that's something that's required if you're gonna get what you want. The better you can learn this, the more powerful you are, buddy. And you just heard it from a little gal from Michigan. Capisce? Good, Muse. Thank you. Hello. Was that Mur?
[02:09:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm glad Muse got on here. I wanted to hear the results of that because I'd only heard the mid stream before everything was, taken care of. And kudos. Great great job there of handling that situation. Excellent. Excellent. Yeah. Yeah. And, what I wanted to say and Sheldon had corrected me not to feel exclusive for sending in just one sentence, but this is actually from their terminology. You're gonna get this I'm just saying you can do this if you don't have to You're gonna get this hour high water, aren't you?
[02:10:32] Unknown:
That's right. Yeah. It's right. Because you don't have to do everything at once. Joseph, this is have to do everything. This is from a state department policy document. We haven't introduced it to you yet, but Murr's about to. What's at the very bottom of this page of a policy statement concerning American Samoans. Go ahead, Murr.
[02:10:55] Unknown:
I, in a line to put your name, declare, no. Being duly sworn, declare my intention to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. But I changed it from being duly sworn to being affirmed by God. So I, Mary Bailey, yeah, being affirmed by God, declare my intention to be a national and not a citizen in The United. The reason I'm saying it is because we're always told one sentence, but then people go on and on and with their embellishments. Yeah. You don't have to take the IRS and and you this is what you need to do initially.
[02:11:31] Unknown:
Get that in here. Insist you tackle the IRS because that's our teeth. The more people we pull out of that system, the more they do. Yes. Yes.
[02:11:41] Unknown:
Listen. I'm just saying you don't have to do it right off the bat. No. You don't. You can think it's good at all. About it. Nobody's even gonna tell you you're good. Okay? Right. Right. Right. But I'm just saying because your affidavit, you know, included that. So my sentence and Sheldon Well told me not to feel exclusive. So welcome, Joseph. Yeah. How are you?
[02:12:02] Unknown:
The, the hell was I gonna say? Here's what's going on, Joseph. We're under a presumption of law. If you go in blacks and look up presumption of law, it will say a presumption Mhmm. Based upon another fact. So what they do is things like pull a bond bankruptcy in 1933 in the bond market that no doubt is laced with fraud. We'll never be able to prove it. But on that presumption, they go, well, alright. We got this class here. We set it up. Oh, we got all these black people here, and then one of the attributes of that is they're an object of our property rights. And so why don't we just move everybody over here into this group as sureties for this fraudulent debt?
So there's a presumption of law. So in the feudal system, because your parents were property, when a child was born, it was born into property also. But it's voluntary. There was two types. This is the voluntary side. So that when he grew up, it was a good lord of the manor. People would say, you know, got a nice place. He's nice. And it's a a range that lasted for over a thousand years. Must have worked. Okay? And so every time there's a generation born, they're born into the same condition. But because it's voluntary, you can volunteer out at any time.
And that's what we do with the affidavit. We're volunteering out Mhmm. Of generations of slavery since 03/09/1933, and they can't say a damn thing about it because it's all totally legit. This is their structure, not ours. We just found the loop in the loophole. And because of that, they've got to honor it or else their only other option is to take off the mask and be open tyrants. And they'll never do that because they can't. Can they stay on mute because they can't argue it? Well, They stay on mute. They stay on mute because they can't argue the presumption. They can't argue the presumption. They can't rebut it. They can't deny it. They can't do anything but stand mute or take off the mask and and be an open tyrant. Those are their only choices. And they learn to know what uncle open tyrants are, so they'll never do that. This literally and Joseph, the importance of this.
I've never found anybody even in history that's had these people in this condition. We've got them in the wall in the corner of the wall in Checkmate, period. All we gotta do is spread it and get numbers. They've already lost. All we gotta get is numbers and maybe with enough of them, we could eventually topple the bastards. The weak link I'll get you a second, Boris. The weak link is the tax system. And that's why that second paragraph on my sample affidavit is so important because I want you to pull yourself out of their tax system because then they've got to eat their own open, shitty, fraudulent debt.
That's what they're after is that 37,000,000,000,000 that you're attached to to pay and be obligated to as a federal citizen.
[02:15:39] Unknown:
Hey, mister Chris. This is Larry with FedEx Freight. I'm the driver that has these four skids for you, and my dispatcher just said that you guys are getting ready to leave. Is that true, or do you guys stay around?
[02:15:51] Unknown:
Well, I guess we'll hear Larry's business. Boris Larry. Boris?
[02:16:01] Unknown:
Boris Yeah. It's right here. Boring. Yeah. Can you hear me now? I hear you. Now, Brian? I can be there, like, right when I I hear you. Don't stay away.
[02:16:09] Unknown:
Walking home.
[02:16:10] Unknown:
I'm up here in Nocatee, and I'm at my my stop. And I'm gonna get ready to leave here, and I can come straight to you if you think that's enough time for the line to die down.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
Okay. I think we're clear. Boris, go ahead.
[02:16:29] Unknown:
Okay, Ryder. I have a comment for you because everybody say, oh, I got rights for this. I got rights for that. But once you void your rights, you don't got no rights. For example, if the police, oh, ask you for an ID and you give them your ID, you already void your full amendment.
[02:16:49] Unknown:
What? You void your what?
[02:16:53] Unknown:
Your right. If you if, for example, you got the right to be secure in your papers, in your purses, in your houses. That's the Fourth Amendment. Yeah? Yeah. Then then when the police ask you for papers, you give them to them, you don't got no more rights because you give them the papers. They've got a right. Well, you you just volunteered the information. You didn't lose the rights. You chose to give it to them. But but you volunteered, but that's right. But you give them to them. You don't got no right because you don't flesh your muscles.
[02:17:25] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I don't think I agree with you. What I mean?
[02:17:29] Unknown:
I I don't think I know. But you could say you were under duress. You were under duress. Somebody with a gun is somebody with a gun, and you're under duress. Yeah. Please. Let's deal let's get back to Joseph here, please, and educate him. He's new. Half the time. Please? Okay.
[02:17:46] Unknown:
So, Joseph, I I you you haven't been exposed to enough of our stuff to really know what questions to ask yet, I don't think. But do you have any at this point?
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Not on the tip of my tongue. I'm just kinda listening right now and taking it in. I'm Alright. Like I said, I'm not green. I've I've been around to, I don't know, half dozen to a dozen groups. Yeah. So I have I have just some different ideas of what people are doing. Sure. I have not gone all the way with any of them. I have gathered information from just about all the groups. Smart. I've definitely taken a look at different forms as well. You know, like, the last group was talking about how, what I've heard you talk about as the warehouse receipt Yes, sir. Birth certificate Correct. Seems to be having something to do with the placenta.
And so they were looking to organize the paperwork so that they leapfrog over that and talk about from
[02:18:50] Unknown:
fertilization to final breath Oh my god. Which I think you need to ponder. That that's 1,600
[02:18:55] Unknown:
piece puzzle. 1,600 pieces in a puzzle. I I
[02:19:02] Unknown:
Now I'm not saying that that's gonna be recognized in law because, obviously, it's not. And I'm not saying I'm not gonna carry that. I'm not saying I'm gonna carry that around in my pocket as a license or anything like that. Just I'm just taking it in, but it does sound accurate for Well, that's them making the birth certificate on some sort of Well, that's for a dead entity. Well, that's the problem. It's not a dead entity. It's a live entity. They get you right from birth. It's the feudal
[02:19:30] Unknown:
system. What nobody else understands, Joseph, is it's the feudal system. When it's the feudal system, you understand everything. You understand the remedy. You understand what they're doing. You understand why they're doing it, And it doesn't come into any of these ethereal. People are always looking for some connection. You it's it's pretty simple, really. You just gotta know it's the feudal system.
[02:19:53] Unknown:
I Where's Viviana coming?
[02:19:55] Unknown:
No. It's very simple. It's very simple, and you can look up letters of Mark, and they're essentially doing pirates.
[02:20:03] Unknown:
No. They're not. They're just saying I'm just saying There is agreed. Well, you can't agree. You can't prove that. I can prove what they're doing. You're born, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born. It doesn't say all persons born with whom we keep their placenta and all this other shit. It just says all persons born in The United States. Notice it doesn't say The United States Of America yet because they haven't moved it over to the whole country under a fraudulent bankruptcy. K? And here's the key word, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
Notice it doesn't say are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, does it? It says and. And if there's some that are and subject, there have to be some that are and not subject, don't there? Okay. If there's some that are and are and subject Yeah. I heard you riff on that. It sounds good. Okay. Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma. And if you're both of those two prongs, born in or naturalized in The US and subject to the jurisdiction of thereof, you are a citizen of The United States in a state wherein you reside, a fancy way to hide the word resident.
K? So there's the two pronged test. And what you've done in the past is told them you were subject to the jurisdiction thereof. All you're doing with the affidavit is saying, oh, I'm not. This is voluntary. I can change. I'm gonna change. And this is the only way you can do it with this one guy. And, and I've done it. And you can't say a word about it because it's not your choice or else you're a tyrant. And now how complicated is that? Mhmm. All persons born. The reason you can't apply to a theory Now in the same sense all that woah. Woah. Woah. The reason that can't apply to the theory you just floated is because when you're in the womb from fertilization on, you're not a person yet, and you don't receive rights and duties.
You're just a fair game entity in mama's womb. That's the word person that you don't understand and they don't understand either. K? So,
[02:22:27] Unknown:
just I'm with you. Actually, I got kicked I got kicked out of the group for asking questions about exactly what you're talking about. Now my question is Alright. I think it's true that if if I was to send an affidavit saying I'm a noncitizen, I can also say I can send another affidavit saying I am I want to become a citizen. You can do it either way.
[02:22:47] Unknown:
And you don't wanna you you you see, don't get don't fall into the American Samoa trap. They're noncitizen. See, I didn't even get to explain this before. And all these people are bringing up things where it has to be you have to bring this in so you're not a misunderstanding, and we're trying to clarify. A noncitizen national is only an American Samoan. The only ones. It's the only somebody said, is different. It's it's the only territory in the whole US system that's not incorporated. They have a representative in congress. They can't vote.
They have a lot of American Samoans that come here to The US because they're they're in The US system. Right? Well, they come to The US. A lot of them are in Utah, probably the Mormons, and they get out there and they find they've got ceilings. If I join civil service, I can only go so high. If I join the military, I can't be an officer. All these stipulations and, ceilings for them, and they can't understand why. There's been two cases. This is what I was trying to explain to somebody a minute ago about court. There have been two cases that have been raised by American Samoans on this question. Yeah. Who's ma'am ma'am, could I get somebody to close the mute, please?
There's a female voice that's blurring or something in the background. It's distracting, please. Thank you. So, they see if I can get back on my train of thought here.
[02:24:21] Unknown:
They are classified as non You were talking about the court two court cases.
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Alright. They went one came up. You can go look at it. If you wanna search it up, go put American Samoa in quotation marks and then put plebiscite in quotation marks. A plebiscite is a group a vote by all the people on a on an issue. And they are trying to find out why they're not citizens of The United States. Because without being citizens of The United States, federal citizens, even though they're a federal territory, they can't get the goodies. They want the goodies. Okay? And so that that that's what the first case was about. It was about fifteen years ago, something like that, and, saw the article one day. Well, they took that case to court. It went up to the, through DC, and it got appealed to the supreme court, and the supreme court wouldn't accept it. No certiorari.
The second one was about five or six years ago, and it came out of Utah. And, because, like I said, there's a lot of American Samoans out there. They have restrictions. They don't know why. The attorney that took their case was an American Samoan himself. I tried to call him and get ahold of him. And, the district court in Salt Lake City ruled in their favor. And immediately within twenty four hours, there was two amicus curiae briefs at the court. One of them was from the federal government, and the other one was from American Samoa. And I predicted at the time that it would get overturned at the Tenth Circuit in Denver, which it did.
So they will not allow this issue to get to the Supreme Court. If they ever ruled on it, it would blow the whole system wide open. What they've done is they set up American Samoan. You know, when you're at the county fair, Joseph, and you go out and there's a guy with the table with the felt on it with three thimbles or walnuts or something going, which one is the pee under? You seen that before? That's what's going on here. Mhmm. They just suit the American Samoans out front, noncitizen nationals, because when they move to The US, they've gotta naturalize to be citizens of The United States even though they're born in the federal system. How about that for a contradiction?
K? And so that's what pisses them off. They gotta go through this long process when they're born in the country in their minds, and they can't get the goodies without didn't it. And so what they did was take that status, noncitizen national, and then convert the state citizen to national to hide it behind it. That's what's going on. Which one is the p under? That's why I told you don't use US citizen or US national. Just use the word national. In their statutes, it originates in the Nationality Act of 1940, statutes at large. It's where they did the switch, and they switched state citizen to national. And the very first definition on this long act, there's about seven or eight of them.
At the very first, definition a, a national owes total allegiance to a small s state. Well, there it is. And if you didn't know what I taught you earlier about allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance, you'd read right past that sentence. But now that you know that, it says a national owes total allegiance to a small less state. Well, before, we owed it to the federal government, and we got their protection, didn't we? Oh, yeah. Some of us got more of their protection than we bargained for. So now we've switched our allegiance on the on the jurisdictional formula to a small less state when we declare it. So, therefore, the state has a duty and an obligation to give us protection.
Protection from what? Well, if, if Utah was gonna invade Arizona, you'd be in part of the militia, and they'd direct you to fight the Utahns. Or if federal jurisdiction encroaches in Arizona and you've got state agencies that are political subdivisions and they have things like traffic laws and all that kind of stuff, well, they're supposed to protect you from that too because that doesn't apply to you anymore. Is all this making sense?
[02:29:08] Unknown:
Why do you keep calling me out for you? How do you keep doing
[02:29:11] Unknown:
this? Let Joseph answer. I'm talking with him. If you wanna say something, you wait till we got a break, and you say, hey, Roger, and I will recognize you. I know you don't think those rules apply to you, but they do. Joseph, let's go over it. Damn it. Let's see where see if we can pick up where we're at, please. Okay. So Can you hear me? Yes. I hear you. Is what I explained to you make sense?
[02:29:47] Unknown:
It does make sense. My question is in regards to the IRS, how are you guys filing? You're exempt now. Right? Yeah. We don't file. Well, we're exempt except for two staff two, rare statutes,
[02:30:01] Unknown:
eight seventy seven b and eight seventy one b. One of them is considering expatriation. It will never apply to us because anybody that's gotten this rare rare status in the history of the world, is not gonna give it up and go trade their for a slave passport. So that one doesn't apply. The other one was on dividends if you've received from corporate bonds or stocks. Not capital gains, just dividends. If you owe those, you need to file and pay the tax. Okay. That's clear. So then what about trusts? Are you guys setting up trusts? Well, we we're doing that. We've got a trust class coming up. We got two, very people that are very, very fluid in trust. One of them will be on day after tomorrow with me, Brent Winters.
He's a twenty plus year practicing attorney. He specializes in trusts. He's also been translating his own Bible for forty years. He's very, very prolific. You can access a bunch of his law books he's written, over at commonlawyer.com. Brent's been Brent and I have been doing these shows for probably twelve years or more, and he's a delight and a national resource. And he has just unbelievable knowledge. K? So he's with us every Friday, virtually. Sometimes we have a snafu. So that's one. The others are paralegal, Mark, who should be with us today and isn't, but he's got some personal problems having to take care of his, elderly parents.
So things come up. But he's had a trust class, and, what we're doing, and you you you probably will want to participate in this, is, if if you're interested in trust for, I think, $30, Brent is gonna teach all the students that wanna participate, a a a a whole he's got a whole trust course. He's got one in the can on his website too, but that's upcoming. Paul, do you wanna tell Joseph that you if you wanna do that, let us know and I'll I'll tell you how to do it. Okay? Just connect with this guy right here because he's putting it all together. Okay? Do you have do you have a pencil? Well well, yeah, I will let's see. I shouldn't have called you up, Paul. Anyway, if you wanna participate, get to what other questions did you have on past trust? If you wanna discuss it, we can do that.
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Thank you. Yeah. I'm I'm taking notes. So anytime there's something coming up, I'll I'll take the note. My other question is, I I did have a state pull some funny stuff on me, and they seem to be hiding some some stuff about, possibility of being able to look up a record on their site. Their site does not show my record at all. Oh, okay. So Don't know anything about that. Curious if an affidavit will take care of that if I fill out the d s a two. I I I I don't know. It doesn't matter if you're sending your affidavit to the secretary of state. That's the second one is just to get the government ID that links it to it. K? Just more proof of what you're doing. I don't know. I I don't know. I mean, you were you were asking if I have skeletons in the closet, and I'm what I'm saying is Well seems like the state's kinda hiding some stuff. I don't really know. Okay. Well, I'm in of outstanding warrants or things like that.
[02:33:27] Unknown:
And you'll just have to plow through and see. I I just don't know. I haven't even gotten to the back part of our program or, of our approach where we notify all your state officials and put them all on notice of what you've done at the federal level and that you've changed, statuses. K? So that's just all another deal. We we do another letter, the attorney general. We copy your sheriff and your play your sheriff. You don't have a police, chief police, your sheriff, the local prosecutor, and, if you want to, other folks. But you send them that. It's specifically outlined under the laws of agency.
Notice to the principal's notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal. They're all in an agency structure. Now you've notified all of them and put them on official notice. If the sheriff issues you a ticket or or whatever else, they're acting now that they've been put on notice. They're acting outside of their delegated responsibilities, and now they lose their personal liability. And if the sheriff's deputy, after the sheriff's been put on notice, does that to you, the deputy loses it, the sheriff loses it because you should inform the deputy, and the attorney general also loses their cloak of immunity. So that's in theory and concept.
So if you are litigious, you can have a damn field day here. And we one of our students did almost get his city back in New Jersey, and they freaked out and corrected it at the last minute.
[02:35:06] Unknown:
Did you say he almost got a city back?
[02:35:09] Unknown:
The city that he lives in. Yes. Because they violated they violated their charter. They violated their city charter. Our our waters are very deep. Yeah. Our waters are very deep here, Joseph. We know what we're talking about. Okay? And that's been proven by the acquiescence of the federal government and the I mean, that the state doesn't send the sheriff to you, generally, but, it works. So what I'd like to rather than just ram all this down you in one setting, go back and watch some one or more of those interviews. And if you can, come back and join us tomorrow. If you can't do it tomorrow, we're here Saturday. That's usually a very good session. Friday, we've got Brent with us, and I just kinda turn him loose. Oh, we're discussing the, declaration of independence again this week on a blow by blow comparison or analysis.
So you may wanna come in for that. But regardless, we'll get to you. This isn't just a one shot deal. Okay?
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Okay.
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Do you now is there anything else you're just burning your curiosity up at this stage? I guess not.
[02:36:35] Unknown:
Okay. Roger? May I
[02:36:37] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. All y'all y'all can do it all day long. I may not be with you, but you can do it. Julie was first, lady Linda. I'm sorry to say. Go ahead, Jules.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna say to Joseph, I haven't been on here that long. I haven't been on here a year. And so when you come on as a a new student on here and you ask questions, we all learn from you because this information and these definitions and equivocation are so confusing for us. So we're all one big family here. And so we've shared so much information with one another. There really is no stupid question except for not asking the question. So, welcome to the family here. And you're in safe hands with Roger and all of his students, and I yield.
[02:37:26] Unknown:
K. Lady Linda, here's a swaggy right here.
[02:37:30] Unknown:
Lady Linda? Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Welcome, Joseph. I just wanted to share a couple of things. Number one, Title eight eleven oh one that was brought up today, parenthesis A, close parenthesis, parenthesis 21, close parenthesis speaks to the national. So, I just wanted you to have that clarity. That's number one. Number two, we were discussing the difference. Some folks use the word domicile. I do not. That's their word. And most of us, 99% of us, I believe, love the Lord with all their hearts and do not lean on their own understanding, and their reference is from the word of God, the word of the heavenly father. And that's why I have such an appreciation for Samuel and Myrrh because that is their foundation.
So let me share with you if you are a man of the of the word of God and that's one of your, studies, there are two distinct relationships between man and woman in the world, and they each carry a different set of responsibilities. So I like to use the word dominion because that's in the word. And the dominion means that we are commanded men and women to rule and be caretakers of creation. While the words resident or alien describe the status of our heavenly father's people as temporary inhabitants in a foreign land. So those of us that are here, our highest calling is being ambassadors to the king of kings.
So the cool thing is, if you wanna just look it up on your, your computer or your phone or however you look at, research, you can just say, to the, computer, please share with me the difference between being, the words dominion and the word resident. And the other word that is in contact with resident is the word alien. Okay? So when you look that up, you'll see an alien is a temporary inhabitant in a land that belongs to another. Okay. The land belongs to our heavenly father, and he has given us authority or jurisdiction to rule over his creation.
So when you realize that when you're doing your documents, you're going to the higher power, which is our heavenly father, and you're asking the Holy Spirit to give you guidance so that you can be surely footed, grounded in what you're doing is the truth that sets men free. And so the scope of this is that we have dominion not just over fish and the sea and the birds, but we have dominion over everything on earth. And specifically, for those of us who are his people, we are called strangers in this land. And our responsibility as having dominion is we're stewards.
So we're not here to exploit. We are here to be responsible caretakers of our heavenly father's creation, and we are called to be compassionate and just have justice. And just like the Israelites were once aliens in Egypt, they were still commanded to love and not mistreat the foreigners among them. And, that's where treating equally under the law comes into context. So if your foundation is that your part of mankind made in the image of our heavenly father to rule as his representatives, reflecting his glory in order in this world that we live in, then our law reflects, which is nature's law, natural law, heavenly father's law.
We reflect his character. We show love and justice for the vulnerable and the marginalized. So I hope that blesses you and helps you to move forward in IYield.
[02:41:41] Unknown:
Couldn't have said it better myself, Linda. Thank you very much. Joseph, do you feel like you're taking a drink of water out of a fire hydrant here today?
[02:41:54] Unknown:
It's all it's all within my pace, but I appreciate every everybody's words, and I appreciate the welcoming. It's very nice.
[02:42:02] Unknown:
Yeah. And we, you know, I have a a real duty. I've been doing this for fifteen years. I never charge anybody. You are gonna pay me though, I hope, and you're gonna pay me by learning the information and help spreading it. And if you don't wanna do that, then I guess that's alright too. But I do this out of a sense of duty. And, I've learned you can't give look. You got you got plenty of resources at your fingertips. You found the website. The other video that you may want to look at, are you familiar with doctor Eugene Schroeder's War and Emergency Powers Act video?
No. This was done back in the '94 of a group of researchers just north of you there, Northeast in Colorado, nine of them. And they did this research group on the War Emergency Powers Act, which is where all this stems from. And, he goes through that. He's a veterinarian. He goes through that and, gives you, I think, 85 exhibits there on the bankruptcy. What happened in 1917 with the original legislation and how they applied it in 1933 when they did the bankruptcy. You may or may not have noticed back before the election when they were suing Trump, all those lawsuits. And Trump came out. He said, they're trying to charge me with some espionage act from 1917.
That's what this is. K? And, basically, what happened was they passed that in World War one. The enemy was Germans. In 1933, they brought that exact legislation forward, and they changed the word Germans and put in citizens of The United States. So all these generations have been declared enemies of the federal government and the bankruptcy people. That's something you may wanna watch. It's gonna it's about two hours long. It's excellent research, and it gives you the whole foundation. And even though we start before that, back at the civil war, the modern day part of it picks up right there where he left off in 1933, March 9. They changed the systems the day Roosevelt took the gold.
They took the gold, then they came back out with the paper, which you didn't know you were the collateral for. That's when they changed the system. So what that doctor Schroeder's deal will do is validate that for you totally. K?
[02:44:38] Unknown:
So I am aware of that, and I I heard you talk about it on the video that I did watch that, our friend that I don't I don't know his name, but, I watched the video where you talked about that as well. 03/09/1933.
[02:44:51] Unknown:
I'm I'm up on that. And I did find the video of doctor Schroeder you're talking about. Yep. And, Paul Paul, our assistant here So I'm I'm I'm up. I'll just He took the one that's on the web and ran it through audio correction. It's got the audio on it much better listened to. So Paul deserves a pat on the back for that.
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Okay.
[02:45:14] Unknown:
Yeah. The link to that one is on the matrix docs in the new student section, and it's the one that's on Rumble, not the one that's on YouTube.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
Yeah. So So what else, Joseph? Or the we got a bunch of people got something for you. Was there anybody else had something for Joseph here? Well, the guy's trump card. Alright. Well, yeah, job God God's trump card is a good video. You know, I think I I explained how they're doing this in your mind first and the technique that you can use to bring yourself back into reality, and then I tell you what they've done. Okay? So that's a I think it's a good video. So otherwise, in that average. Joseph, go do your homework. Alright. Hold on, Waheed. Go do your homework and come back and visit us with questions when you can. Waheed, what do you got?
[02:46:14] Unknown:
You said something about German. They started this with the German, and I caught the tail end because I had a customer. But they started what with the German? The War and Emergency Powers Act in 1917
[02:46:25] Unknown:
declaring Germans the enemy. In '33, they brought that exact legislation at forward and took out Germans and put in citizens of The United States. Obviously, you haven't watched the Eugene Schroeder video yet, have you? Why?
[02:46:44] Unknown:
No. I haven't. How do I not do James Schroeder video?
[02:46:50] Unknown:
I guess the first thing you need to do is listen. You go to the website and go over to the new student section, and it is presented to you there.
[02:47:03] Unknown:
It's an archive.org video.
[02:47:06] Unknown:
Thank you. Thank thank you. Okay. It's worth watching, Wahid. Okay. Who else? Stomach's growling. Alright. Well, hopefully, we'll see you back tomorrow with more questions, Joseph, if you get a chance. And, otherwise, all you guys and gals will be here with the regular bunch or those of you who are in that that can be, come and hang around with us. So, they go. You can stick around here, Joseph. I mean, there'll be people on here for hours. So you've got an audience, but I'm gonna go and satisfy my hungers. Okay? Hey, Raj. Yes, Paul. Okay. Thank you for your thanks for everything for everything, Roger. Okay. Alright. Well, Joseph, we'll look forward to seeing you again, hopefully, if I didn't offend you too much. Yes, Paul.
[02:47:55] Unknown:
Okay. After you get lunch, I might have a solution for your word processor. Give me a call on the phone
[02:48:07] Unknown:
after you're, done eating, and then Alright. We'll get together and get that done. Oh, alright. We'll see if we can do that. I've got a dental appointment at five. It's simple. Just taking a picture of my mouth. So, anyway, okay. I'll see y'all later. Paul, I'll see you later. Okay?
[02:48:23] Unknown:
Okay, Rog.
[02:48:24] Unknown:
Roger? Yes, ma'am. Roger?
[02:48:28] Unknown:
I have a question for you. I don't mean to be nosy here, but I was thinking about setting up a go go fund me for you. Do you have an idea of what your dental, costs are gonna be around? It's under $15.
[02:48:44] Unknown:
Okay. Probably the latter. Oh, well, thank you for that, Julie. It'd be great. We can promote that too. And when I I gotta get my I'll get that other stuff on Alex Jones straight. I've been meaning to do that all year. And it doesn't take any money from anybody. It's just if you don't change, if you're buying from Alex, and I'll get part of that. So, anyway, we'll talk about it later. I have got to go take care of some bodily, bodily calls. Okay? Mhmm. I'll leave I'll leave it at that. Ciao. See you tomorrow, Julie. Love all of you. Ciao.
[02:49:19] Unknown:
Bye, Raj. Okay. If anybody, is gonna talk continuing the topics that were discussed, go for it for about the next ten minutes, and then I will take the stream down at 02:00 eastern. Or if nobody wants to say anything, I'll take it down right now.
[02:49:50] Unknown:
I got a little more I could add.
[02:49:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to reinforce what Linda said about domain. Domain and dominion are the only two words that I found that aren't corrupted by that fourteenth amendment. They've left them alone. So this is where I would say that I exist. It's in within my domain, within my dominion, in my legal paperwork. That's the term I used. Thalmicile is also linked to residency, so you wanna stay away from that. Gave them the bomb. What did you want? Oh, Dave.
[02:50:42] Unknown:
Hey. I just wanted you to speak up and say hi to, the new guy, Joseph, in Arizona. You guys are neighbors. Figured you could maybe beat up somewhere.
[02:50:54] Unknown:
Mhmm.
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That's all.
[02:51:00] Unknown:
Well, one of the things I don't have a vehicle. I don't I don't operate a vehicle. So unless you're in Yuma, it's probably not gonna happen.
[02:51:12] Unknown:
Dave, you guys in back in those little states like Michigan think that Arizona to Nevada doesn't
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seem very far. Well, three hours, he said. He's about three hours from from Vegas. That's enabled.
[02:51:27] Unknown:
If you're in in Arizona, he can get within three hours of Vegas.
[02:51:33] Unknown:
What? One seven. You're breaking up. Yep. We lost you. Anyway, that's all, Brent. I thought it was good it'd be good for him to hear your voice out there, the next door neighbors.
[02:51:59] Unknown:
Yield. Where in where in Arizona does this other gentleman live?
[02:52:06] Unknown:
He he's somewhere in Vegas. He's been following Roger. He he met Roger, like, thirty plus years ago in Atlanta. So, yeah, Brent's a good guy, and he knows his stuff, and he's a marine.
[02:52:27] Unknown:
And he's a preparing you you're saying that he's in Nevada, not not Arizona. Right?
[02:52:33] Unknown:
He yeah. He's in Las Vegas. So how do you how do you travel?
[02:52:51] Unknown:
I don't.
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Breaking up.
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I said I do not.
[02:52:58] Unknown:
Okay. So that that's, that can be detrimental in the in the desert.
[02:53:10] Unknown:
Vegas is about six hours away from standing outside all day, but Say it again there, Paul. Vegas is six hours away from Phoenix, Arizona.
[02:53:29] Unknown:
I thought I heard, Joseph say it was about three hours from Vegas. So you maybe you should think about getting divorced.
[02:53:48] Unknown:
In that case, it'll be eighteen hours.
[02:53:54] Unknown:
Not if it's a fast one.
[02:53:58] Unknown:
We're talking about the High Arizona Desert. How fast can it be?
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Maybe may maybe he has a bicycle.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Can you hear me now?
[02:54:18] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:54:25] Unknown:
Hello? Can you hear me? Yes.
[02:54:29] Unknown:
Yeah. We can hear you. Sometimes when you get kicked out like that, you need to just call back again and get on a different connection on the server.
[02:54:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I mostly lay low, and and I researched these kind of things. I was in a motor home, but I sold the motor home. So I'm kinda sitting tight to kinda figure out all this lost stuff, to be honest. I don't know how far, Vegas is. I'll look it up right now, though.
[02:55:01] Unknown:
Hey, Yeah. I just got a question.
[02:55:05] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:55:07] Unknown:
How much water is in the Colorado River at Yuma?
[02:55:17] Unknown:
I'm not really sure what your question's trying to find. It doesn't really disperse to Yuma, so it's not really helpful. It goes right on by. I know. Not as big as four hours and fifty three minutes for me.
[02:55:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I was just wondering if you've ever
[02:55:42] Unknown:
seen the Colorado River. It's not that far. It's right outside of Yuma. Oh, if I if I seen it I'm sorry. I misunderstood your question. Yeah. I've been in I've been in the river, and I've been in the part of, the river where it doesn't have an aqueduct or it doesn't have concrete on the sides where it just, you know, gets it going right through Arizona and and it heads on into California. But, it's nice and cold and and refreshing, but it doesn't really go to Yuma. The water in Yuma is actually pretty pretty terrible. I'm not really sure what they're doing to it out here, but it's got all kinds of contaminants in it. And, what was your question?
[02:56:38] Unknown:
Oh, Matt?
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Never mind.
[02:56:43] Unknown:
So you you obviously know some of this information. Where have you looked for, guidance to help you understand and know the know the different things that what Roger's talking about, what have you.
[02:57:03] Unknown:
Again, I would ask you to to kinda clarify your question. I've been in more groups than I can name, and so the the different directions that people are trying to come at this at are varied. I can't really answer that question directly, and and and, you know, it's kind of a a cluster of information at this point. I'm just kinda picking up bits and pieces and seeing what I wanna splice together to make it work most efficiently for me. You know?
[02:57:36] Unknown:
Agreed.
[02:57:41] Unknown:
I think the next
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curiosity that I have before before you go,
[02:57:51] Unknown:
I am curious about
[02:57:53] Unknown:
I did mention it. Maybe I I didn't clarify well enough for Roger. Maybe he didn't understand what he was saying. But, I think I might run into a snag with getting a passport card with some hidden something that they have, in another state that I was in, where they they used obstruction against me to hold me, and I wouldn't use the name for quite a while. And they were trying to get me to use the name, and I wouldn't say the name. And I almost stayed long enough without saying the name, for them to release me because they can't hold you beyond seventy three hours is my understanding. But they talked about, they started to press me, and I ended up saying the name and saying that's who I am. And I acquiesced, and I signed.
And so they held me for a while, before I I made bail, and I left. And then I had a court court date went to that court date, didn't plea. The judge entered a plea for me. Now when I looked up that information, it didn't show up on the court record. And my friend, to my knowledge, it was his his place I was just passing through. I was passenger in his vehicle. There wasn't any obstruction. I just said I didn't wanna get out of the car. But what I'm saying is because I couldn't find the information on their website, I don't know if it would show up in the d s eighty two when they look up my record. Because as far as I know, it's not there. And so my question is, you know, can I simply send in an affidavit with the eighty two to say, I'm aware of this? This is possible, Through no incrimination, I just wanna name that, and I'm not trying to hide it.
[03:00:04] Unknown:
Joseph? This is Julie. I wouldn't do that. You can get an account on pacer.gov, pacer.gov. If you have your case number, you can look that up on there. It's public information and figure out if that judge entered a plea for you, what the resolution of that case is. You can see where it stands. And if you just submitted a DS, 11 or DS 82, I may find information, on you based on like outstanding court costs that you owe and stuff like that that weren't pay paid or outstanding warrant for your arrest or something. You just won't get issued a passport. That's my understanding if anybody else wants to chime in here.
[03:00:52] Unknown:
Thank you, Alika. Although, I'm on pace for now. Yeah. Joseph,
[03:00:56] Unknown:
so Roger says what we figured out here recently, was if we send the affidavit in, you know, by itself without any applications to the Department of State first, letting them know that you're a national and you want this placed in your file firmly and permanently, they do. And then you apply for your passport with another copy of your affidavit. And normally, it goes smoothly unless you got, you know, some skeleton like you're talking about. And that may or may not be a skeleton. I'm not sure exactly what you said because you kinda broke up a little bit. But, if you looked it up and you didn't find anything, it's probably not there.
[03:01:40] Unknown:
Yeah. And and as Samuel was saying also, you'd if you even if you don't have the case name, you can search by your your name, and it should pull up anything that was, entered into, that court in that area. And I think you can actually even, check by state, use the search engines and the advanced search to check by state and by county. But I haven't been on that website for a while. So I can't remember how it works. But you can find out
[03:02:08] Unknown:
your information. I'm on it. I'm savvy. It says select court type Yep. And then select a circuit. So I'll be looking into that. Yep. Find out a stat. But the the the thing would be to first submit
[03:02:20] Unknown:
your, affidavit of citizen evidence to the Secretary of State. And then after that, apply for your passport. Don't put anything on there. Like you could have this outstanding, or you had this situation, or whatever. Check PACER first because you do have to comply with that warning statement on that, on that renewal application, which states that you have not been convicted of any, crimes or whatever under certain codes and stuff. So that's why I always recommend go to PACER first, and you can get all that information there and see where you stand.
[03:02:59] Unknown:
And if you do have Thank you for that. That's an important piece. I appreciate that clarity because I have not been con convicted of anything.
[03:03:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Then you probably are good to go. And if you have been convicted of something, you can, you know, I want I'm learning a lot these days about our all caps name, which Roger does not want us discussing on his show. But I have I have friends going into court right now here, and they're going right in and they're asking the judge for the bid performance and payment bond, And they're asking for the accounting and the judge is just getting up off the chair walking out and dismissing the cases. So I mean, when you go to court, we go to court, we're going to a bank, they're using our minor estate, which is our all caps name. And until we take back our minor state, we are both the debtor and the creditor. And that's what they're doing when we go into court. They're making a lot of money off of us.
But you have the right to ask my question. You just talked about a can of worms that I definitely wasn't going to try to bring up with Roger, but Yeah, you don't want to bring the all caps name up with Roger. He doesn't believe in it. He doesn't believe anybody's ever gotten a hold of their, Sustic KB trust account. And I have other information that states that they have. The problem is is that my understanding is people who go to court to get in a hold of their trust. Those cases are sealed. And those people who teach it, they're threatened with jail time.
And I have no evidence about that. That is just rumors that I'm being told. But it would make perfect sense with me because they don't want us to know this information. They don't know that when you were your CUSIP number is attached. You're I I say it's attached. It's a bond. I have the actual companies that created a bond out of our CUSIP numbers. And by the way, when you go to court, you can also ask the judge and the court and the clerk before you go, give me the CUSIP number in the case. And you tell them you don't want the master CUSIP number. You want the individual, CUSIP number because they've taken all the individual CUSIP numbers and merged them into one, which was unlawful.
They're also signing ten ninety nine in your name, which is identity theft. And they're also, issuing securities, which is a violation of securities laws. And then they're also engaging in tax evasion because they're making money off your bonds, and they're not paying the taxes owed on them.
[03:05:28] Unknown:
Yep. I'm with you on all that, and I think that, that's well, baby steps. Right? But all that all that's very important information.
[03:05:39] Unknown:
All the stuff ties in all ties into the national status, and it all ties into your minor estate. And it's very important information because we everybody needs to understand that when you were when you came out of your mother's womb with the maternity act of 1920, they bonded all of us. And they bonded all of us unbeknownst to us. And so, as Sherry was stating yesterday or the day before, there is actual proof and there's case law that specifically states that you have a minor estate. Sherry, I'm not sure if you're on here. I can't remember the title and the code. But, I will let you know that, the Attorney General is the common law trustee of your estate, your whether you want to call it a legacy trust or an estate trust or a SESTAKV trust, they label it all sorts of different names. I got it here. Title 31 CFR 363.3 governs the regulations for securities held in the Treasury Direct System, which is administered by the Bureau of Fiscal Service.
So everybody wants to know what our remedy is. And it comes down to the creditor debtor in the system because we have been bankrupt forever and everything is in a trust right now. Your bond is in that trust and operate and we're operating with fiat debt currency. So somebody has to be the debtor and somebody has to be the creditor. And the government, they owe us. They owe us money. So you should there's a set off and an equipment's account and the government already owes you money. So when you go to court, instead of having to pay fees, you should be asking them to just charge the liability because you are the creditor and they tried to trick you into believing that you are the debtor as well. And there are so many, Supreme Court decisions. Here's what it is. Title 31 CFR 363.6.
You have not taken over your minor account and your securities, to do your transactions in a commerce system. So you're actually until you do this, you're operating at a as a debtor instead of a creditor. And the entire secured party process is about securing your securities. So you're operating as a creditor instead of a debtor in the system. So so that you're controlling access to that account where you're the grantor and you're the beneficiary of it. They are the trustee. And you know what? When you go to court, that judge that's sitting on that bench, you know, that trustee that AG and then the lawyer that's sitting on the bench, they're the trustee. That's your account. That's your money. They should be paying your bills and they're lying to you and they're committing fraud.
And, I'm trying to figure out how to get I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, but I think I'm getting closer and closer to figuring it out, and it's through ten ninety nine forms a, b, and c. Yep. I'm with you. I'm I'm aware of all of that. Would you mind, repeating those? CFR three six three point six is what I got. Yeah. So, you can look up the fact that you actually it's proof that you have a minor account. And it's proof that you're a minor account and not as your securities. So that's Title 31 CFR 363.6.
That's proof that you have a minor account and that it's your securities. And by the way, Sherry was on here the other day. And, it talks about that you can take over this account. It doesn't matter if you're over the age of 18. Hold on here real quick, Joseph, if you don't mind. May I? Yeah. Here's Sherry. Here's Sherry.
[03:09:39] Unknown:
Okay. We have to distinguish between statutes and regulations. Statutes are meaningless without an implementing regulation. So when you see CFR regulation, that controls everything. That's where the penalty and that the duty is required. So, statutes are meaningless without an implementing regulation. So, 363.6 definition of minor.
[03:10:19] Unknown:
Minor means that if you fall under the age of 18 years, the term minor To refer to an individual who has attained the age of 18 years, but has not yet taken control of the securities, plural, contained in his or her minor account. You have more than one bond. You have several bonds in that account. And when you go to court, they are signing a ten ninety nine A, taking over your property, which is identity theft by signing your signature to something you didn't sign and then stealing your property, and they're bonding you. And if you go to court, I had somebody recently who went to the you go ahead, Sherry. Yeah.
[03:11:04] Unknown:
Okay. Because we have to also recognize that everything under contract is a security. Yep. Okay. So, title 31 governs the securities.
[03:11:22] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:11:24] Unknown:
Okay. I got a question. If it's under the CFRs, does that apply to a state citizen?
[03:11:33] Unknown:
Well, here's what's happening here. So to get access to your minor account, my understanding is that you need to be a national to do that. I'm still studying this and getting closer to an answer for everybody. So that's one good thing. But you need to take over that account. I there are, like, for example, there's a thing called tax credits that I'm looking at right now. Every time you go to the bank and you deposit $10, the bank can loan out, 10 times that amount 10 times that amount. So you are owed tax credits. That money is yours. And if you file the right, forms, you get that back. I'm still trying to figure it out, and I figure it out. I'm gonna share it with everybody. But they have blended my understanding is they have blended all these jurisdictions together.
And everybody who says when you go into court, they're operating under this or that or whatever. I would beg to disagree with all of that stuff because they blended law and they blended jurisdictions. When you go in there, they've combined, maritime admiralty law, which is a 100% applicable to your all caps name because you were dead. They made you dead in your honor. Wait a minute, Julie. Yep.
[03:12:57] Unknown:
We have to distinguish between jurisdiction and choice of law. And choice of law is what controls the jurisdiction. So when you go in and you have your choice of law, and this is also under the UCC, between the law of the land and the law of the sea. But you can't meddle in both.
[03:13:32] Unknown:
Okay. Sherry, I'm just gonna agree to disagree with you because here's the deal. Everything is fraud right now. You gotta play their game.
[03:13:40] Unknown:
No. That might be, but Julie Julie, the proof fraud
[03:13:44] Unknown:
agree. Sherry will disagree to disagree. I'm trying to get a hold of our trust, and I'm gonna play their games. I don't care what they've done. It's all fraud. The courts are banks. It's all fraud. They're corporations. I'm gonna play their games so that we can get access to our accounts and do the accounting and the offsets that we are owed. Okay. Well, I will say this.
[03:14:06] Unknown:
You don't have to go in and prove fraud. That is very hard to do, first of all.
[03:14:12] Unknown:
Your choice of law is what is I'm not saying you have to go and improve fraud. I know the specific phrases to use when you go into a courtroom that will cause a to cause a case to be dismissed and a judge to get out of the seat and say, I dismissed the case, pay $25 court fee and get out of here. They don't want it they don't want people to know on the record that we know what the fraud is all about. Julie? Yep. Have you have you looked at the steps that Stamper has in his book, in '67? I I haven't. Some of them are antiquated because they've changed things. Like, for example, when Stamper wrote his book, Samuel, Stamper doesn't know now that there's two treasuries.
They took a separate treasury and put it in Puerto Rico on purpose and then, so that we couldn't get jurisdiction down there. So we did have only one treasury in the Federal District Of Columbia. Now they put it down there. They moved all of our QSIP numbers down there because people were figuring out about the bonds that were being issued in our all caps name and that we were playing both the debtor and the creditor of The United States, and they were double dipping. And then also on top of that, now they've taken all the CUSIP numbers and they've merged them into one just like they do when you get mortgages. They pull them together and create a mortgage backed security. They've done the same thing with the CUSIP numbers.
So I'm trying to figure I've been working very hard on this, and I understand where everybody's coming from in terms of go ahead. Yeah. What?
[03:15:44] Unknown:
Well, I just wanted to support your first statement. By Stamper's first statement, He says, in order to make this work, you have to claim to be one of the people must appear on the public register, the secretary of state. Yep. So there's the state citizenship. Yep. To begin to do this process. Yeah.
[03:16:06] Unknown:
And my understanding is in order to take control of over your minor account, which contains all the securities, I e bonds that they've issued in your all caps name, you have got to, you have you've got to play their fraudulent rules of the game. And I get it. Well, we have these laws. We have these god given rights and blah blah blah. I'm not interested in that anymore. I'm interested in getting my money that they stole back from me. I'm act I'm interested in getting my tax credits. This is so evil. I can't even sleep at night anymore. So just like we use their own codes under Title 26 IRS codes in there and the statutes at large against them, we can use all their, fraudulent, stuff they're doing in the in the courts, which are banks, and and ask them to give us the accounting. Give me my CUSIP number for the case, and I'd like to I'd like to see the bond. When you go in a courtroom like that on a traffic case and you tell the judge, I'd like to see the bond, please, they're gonna say, I don't know what the bond is. If you go to the Foreign Registration Act and look up that judge who's gonna be presiding over your case and they have not registered as a foreign agent and they're functioning as like a bar judge, bar attorney in that court, they have to answer your questions because then they're a public official. They didn't take the oath and they didn't they didn't A public servant.
Yeah. They're they are a public servant for you and they're gonna try to tell you they don't have to answer questions. Yes. They do have to ask answer questions if they didn't register under the foreign agent, act of 1937 as amended. They have to answer your questions. And the more you tell that judge, well, you're one of two things. You're either a foreign agent or you're a public servant. And I looked you up in the database, and I don't see anywhere that you registered as a foreign agent. So you must be a public servant, which means here's your duties, and that would be me, and you have to answer my question.
[03:18:01] Unknown:
Julie, wouldn't you think that a clerk of the court would have this information?
[03:18:07] Unknown:
Maybe not disclose it. You won't that that is somebody is close enough to one. Yeah. Maybe we could get get it from them because they gotta do the somebody's gotta do the paperwork. Right? Well, yeah, the So when you find out so if you get a ticket in a case and you decide you're going to go to court, you know, before you go to court, you should figure out who the judge and who the clerk is in the case because that's you're right. They have to tell you that information before you show up. So you can go look that judge up and find out, if he or she registered in the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1937 as amended. And then after that, you can also call up the court and ask, I want the CUSIP number for the case. And they they have it. If they say, what are you talking about? They're lying. Tell them I don't want the master CUSIP number. I want the individual CUSIP number in this case.
[03:18:54] Unknown:
May I? What I'm saying because you're so involved in this kind of a world anyways, the finance side, do do you think you know somebody who knows a clerk of court who might share some information with you?
[03:19:06] Unknown:
I don't know. I I don't know I don't know anybody in the court.
[03:19:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, let me haven't asked this, but let me just say this. A county clerk is the she's the clerk of the public record and the county clerk, and she's also the clerk of the circuit court. Now when you're dealing in traffic, you're one level underneath there. It's district or municipal. It's not a court of record. Now when you get to the circuit level, it's a court of record, and your county clerk is the same as the circuit clerk. And so, yes, they do know that. And I'm in a position and I I should ask, but I would say don't do it verbally over the phone. Do it in writing. Make them write your response.
And and that's maybe that's something I should be doing. Well, if you knew her Any thoughts on what letter? Sit down Yeah. I know her.
[03:20:12] Unknown:
About it No. And see what they have to see what they'll disclose to you. See, I'd rather do it in writing. And you're very loud as usual. You're breaking my speaker. It's my phone.
[03:20:24] Unknown:
I don't know.
[03:20:26] Unknown:
I don't know. Do I I don't know what it is, but Brenda's got the same thing. Every time she's on, it breaks my speaker. I and I tell people about it, but it doesn't seem to be a remedy. So I don't know. I know. But don't you find it odd, Samuel? It's just the women?
[03:20:45] Unknown:
Me? Do you mind if I interject for a moment? Can you hear me?
[03:20:51] Unknown:
I don't know if Samuel could answer the question. It's just the women.
[03:20:56] Unknown:
You're not breaking the street now, Sherry, and you're speaking softly.
[03:21:00] Unknown:
Just speak softly. I I went to a whisper, which the other day, Paul told me you don't have to whisper. Well, evidently, I do. So here I am. You're on another phone. No. I'm on the same phone that I was just thirty seconds ago. I chose to whisper.
[03:21:26] Unknown:
Hello. What is the name of the lady? This is Chris from California. What's the name of the lady that was, giving us all this information?
[03:21:36] Unknown:
Oh my god, Chris. I'm so, I'm I'm just so, I'm so offended that you don't remember me, that you emailed me. Julie. It's me Julie, Chris. Come on. Your sister from a different mother.
[03:21:52] Unknown:
May I add something to what Julie has put forth? All contracts are governed by securities, and that's how they control us. Contracts
[03:22:08] Unknown:
Not in common law. Securities.
[03:22:10] Unknown:
Yeah. But Correct. And that is where it's important, your choice of law.
[03:22:17] Unknown:
I think there's another threat that the courts we could use on these courts as as state citizens is that we would definitely come under Swift versus Tyson and not Erie Railroad. And we could, when we get high enough in the courts, be able to be a district court under the common law, and I think that would scare the crap out of them to the point where they wouldn't even wanna entertain such a case.
[03:22:52] Unknown:
Samuel. Samuel, if you go into a courtroom in front of that judge, okay, on a traffic ticket, they have already pulled a ten ninety nine A, and they have already extracted funds from your minor account where all your securities are. It's called a set off and acquittance account. If you just tell the judge, why don't we apply, your alleged debt that is due, to my account and discharge the liabilities from the case? They don't, they don't want to hear that. We do not have constitutional rights in this county. There was a permanent injunction and restraining order against the government itself. And there are You forget, really, I don't even believe in going to court. I debate them. I understand that. But I'm trying to tell people, I'm trying to get a hold of our minor accounts and our securities to get our tax credits back, and to take over this account because it's ours.
And so, you know, that's what my whole goal is. I'm gonna play their game. I'm gonna play their game where they blended jurisdictions, they blended laws, and they're gonna try to trick you when you come into a courtroom. And the the main questions they don't wanna hear is before you go, what's my individual CUSIP number in the case? That clerk knows that. And then when you walk into a courtroom and tell the judge that you want to see the bond, that is a huge, thing that's going to get that judge to walk off the case and dismiss it and tell you to pay a $25 administrative fee.
[03:24:34] Unknown:
Okay, June.
[03:24:36] Unknown:
They've taken you as the debtor and the creditor and they combined you into one. Congress gave us a remedy a long time ago for hypothesating the debt to pay for to pay the Federal Reserve for all the bonds that they're selling. And, there's a case called Guarantee Trust versus Henwood. And, but nobody in Congress wants to give us the remedy anymore. They want us to continue to operate as minors and debtors in the system and try to convince us that we're the one of the same, meaning we're a minor and a debtor in our all caps name and a breathing woman in our, or a breathing man in our creditor name. And when that's not the case, we are the original creditor.
And it all comes down to the creditor debtor. It all comes down to the creditor debtor and the system because And what are those terms used in
[03:25:38] Unknown:
contract law? What overcomes the constitution contracts?
[03:25:42] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:25:44] Unknown:
You have to bear in mind securities back the contract. You have to dispense with the contract, and that's what three six three thirty one CFR three six three point six stipulates. You have to take control of the securities of the minor account. Now how to do that
[03:26:13] Unknown:
I've got to get rid of the fact. You have to get control over your minor estate. Right now, you're the grantor and you're the the account. It doesn't say estate. It says account. It's the same thing as an estate, Sherry. No? It's
[03:26:28] Unknown:
Yep. Nope. Nope. Nope. Yes, it is. No. It is not. Yes. It is. Okay. Well, when they use terms account, they mean account and look that term up legally. Nope. They
[03:26:45] Unknown:
use equivocation. It isn't in the state. Our securities are in in in in a we're in receivership. The government's been in receivership. It's a trust. And they use equivocation. They use the word SEPTAKV trust. They use which they they use legacy estate. They use trust estate. They use accounts. They use they have I have written all this stuff down. They use set off an equipment's account. They use all these things interchangeably. All it does is it's part of your minor account. And if you don't take over it, you that's what you need to do. You need to revoke and reinvest these securities.
Those are the exact terms. How do you revoke it? I'm trying to with ten ninety nine a, b, and c forms as well as tax credits, I'm trying to figure it out, Sherry. I work full time. I'm not retired, and I all my spare time I spend on this. I'm getting closer.
[03:27:39] Unknown:
Right. Well Can I enter that first? 99. Yes. But just really quickly, a ten ninety nine is an IRS form. The ten ninety nine a, a stands for abandonment. And the court does okay. Okay. I I I'm just putting it out there. What the court, operates under is the bid performance and payment bonds, which is not the ten ninety nine a until it's abandoned. It is. It is. Okay. Okay. Well, it's not abandoned.
[03:28:14] Unknown:
Okay. You and I are gonna disagree. Every time you go into courtroom, they've already pulled the ten ninety nine a, And they've extracted funds from your debt off and equipment's account, otherwise known as your SEPTA KB trust, otherwise known as your minor account. Because you haven't taken control over it. I have studied this until I'm blue in my fucking face towards my French call. You can delete that, and I'll send you a donation. I'm sorry. I like it. I I think I know what they're doing here. I know exactly what they're doing here. I have a CPA and an MBA. Okay, guys.
[03:28:55] Unknown:
Hang on. I'm gonna I'm gonna put a stop to the argument, by taking the, taking the program down. So I'm, I'm I'm also going to mute, every every, line that is making noise. There we go. Got them all. Okay. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Wednesday, August 27 edition. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on eurofolkradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network. And our website is thematrixstocks.com, where you will find the links to join us using free conference call live on the show. Ciao.
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[03:30:12] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Welcome
Radio Ranch and Global Broadcast Network
News Discussion: Minneapolis Shootings
Show Purpose and Audience Engagement
Discussion on Clergy Plan and Historical Context
Listener Interaction and Questions
Debate on Legal Definitions and Jurisdiction
Driver's License and Legal Status Discussion
Listener Questions and Legal Advice
Residency and Legal Implications
Legal Definitions and Listener Engagement
Discussion on National Status and Legal Processes
Listener Joseph's Introduction and Queries
Legal Status and Affidavit Process
Listener Interaction and Legal Clarifications
Legal Strategies and Listener Advice
After Show Discussion and Listener Engagement
