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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses a variety of topics centered around personal freedom, legal status, and the complexities of the administrative state. The conversation delves into the historical context of the Civil War and its implications on modern-day citizenship, highlighting the significance of understanding one's legal status and the concept of voluntary servitude. Roger emphasizes the importance of the affidavit process in reclaiming personal sovereignty and the potential pitfalls of the current system.

Additionally, the episode touches on contemporary issues such as IRS challenges faced by listeners, the role of the administrative state, and the influence of historical legal frameworks like the Babylonian merchant code. The discussion also explores the impact of dietary choices on health, with insights into natural remedies and nutritional supplements. Throughout the episode, Roger and his guests share personal anecdotes and insights, fostering a deeper understanding of the intersection between law, health, and personal freedom.

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Tax the rich,   feed the poor,   and tell they're on old, the  

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Well, thank you, mister Alvin Lee, ushering us in again here this morning on the Tuesday edition.   Radio Ranch here on the twenty sixth is the date stamp   of August. August just about to   turn a page on us.   Roger Sales, your host here at the Radio Ranch. And,   let's see. We might even we have Allen with us today. Yes, sir. I think there's somebody up there. How about that? Morning, Allen. Well, Paul, why don't you, usher in and,   give us all the folks? Hey. You bet. I'm here. Alright. Good to hear you, Alan.   All the folks that help us extend our reach there, Paul, if you would, so we can give them proper   recognition and credit for helping us.  



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Alright. Well, well, this morning, let's switch things up a little bit. Let's,   give thanks to WDRN production support Collins, Colorado, part of the NET family of broadcast services,   which brings us   one zero six point nine WBOU   FM in Chicago,   homenetwork.tv,   freedomnation.tv,   go live TV, and stream life.tube.   Because this is Tuesday,   and Tuesday through Friday,   our program is aired on radiosoapbox.com.   Thanks to our buddy, Paul, up across the drink.   We're also   on   eurofolkradio.com.   That's our flagship   platform,   thanks to pastor Eli James,   and we're also mirrored on Global Voice Radio Network.  

The links to Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs.com,   as well as,   the links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Morning, Raj. Happy Tuesday.  

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I guess. We'll see,   as we go forward. Pretty day here this morning.   I was just, watching the last hour and a half   of this morning's Harrison thing   is all on England, and what's going on over there.   Really? And,   boy, is   poor Paul and those guys, man. It's got,   had some videos. I think they said it was in Scotland   of,   the migrants trying to   chat up these young girls to to do whatever they're gonna do to them.   And, the young girls, one of them has got a knife and an ax,   and they're trying to keep them away from them. And,   there was he showed several videos and stuff. Man, that situation over there is   getting real   chippy,   should we say.  

The last thing they played, and and Harrison even said that he didn't know whether it was,   he said, I thought this was fake. And it's some guy this is evidently   a little bit old.   And he supposedly   owns a bed and breakfast between   London and Bristol somewhere.   And,   he came to him early and asked him to contract to house the migrants   and, which he did.   And,   he's in a long term contract with him now according to him.   And they he got a call and said there's gonna be a lorry, delivering some crates to the back of your bed and breakfast. There were 17 crates, and there was a police,   officer, military guy, or somebody with them. And they said, where can we find a empty room,   a room in the b and b to put these crates? And,   and it was in his office and 17 crates. And,   the guy said he couldn't open them. He'd get a phone call, as to whatever. And so after a while, he got real curious talking to one of his friends. Said it's in your place. You need to know what's in there.  

And he opened it up, and, one of them was full of ammunition.   Another one was full of a k 40 sevens.   And Roger? Now I don't know if that's true or not. Okay? And even Harrison   said that he had thought it wasn't, but you listen to this guy again, and,   it very well could have been. Yes, Julie. You have some,   details on this for us?  

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Yeah. That was played on on online,  

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like, three years ago. Yeah. He said it was a couple years old.  

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K. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. But, yeah, I do believe that's true.   I sound it. True. That's he sounded true. We got sleeper cells yeah. We got flipper cells all over The United States. So  

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I think they're still there. We haven't had anybody come forward, and we're not on the same exact   protocol as they are in England. And, anyway, it's just very you know, with our connections to Paul when you're over there, and, Paul, you're over there doing broadcast.   I forget what they said.   30 people   a day, a week, a month are getting nabbed for online speech.   I don't I don't remember the time frame he mentioned, but it was kinda shocking because he said, like, in Russia, it's 30 people in a whole year. And here, they're doing 30 in some much shorter time.   So it's getting pretty hairy over there, Paul.  



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Yeah.   And I think those sleeper cells are all over the world, and I think they've been,   they've been set up, stocked, and maintained for some time.   And   when we find them   when we find out who they are,   it'll happen.  

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So, anyway, that's just on this morning, and   it was pretty much the whole,   hour and a half that I listened to was on, the situation over there.   And other and other,   different, incidents,   that he covered, but those are the ones that   kinda stuck out with me this morning. Anyway, that's,   the way they're progressing. Don't forget England's usually a a bit ahead of us on these things.   But,   boy, what a miserable   what a miserable situation for those four English folks over there.   Yeah.   Gotta feel sorry for them. You know?   And we're just gonna have to, stand up and not let that happen here,   in The US anyway.  

I hope everybody I forget who I was listening to the other day said, look. I don't go out of the I don't go out of the house without a weapon.   So, I I I don't I don't know. I do know, Julie, though, that next door to you, they're in the District Of Columbia,   unless there's   been a murder   in ten they've they've been eleven days in DC without a murder unless there's been one since Sunday.   So that's pretty good. Don't you think?   He's, talking about sending the troops into other cities, of course. They're the Pritzkers.  

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Yeah. I think I   I I think that's good. There's, but there's, you know, there's still so much other stuff going on right now, but I   Anne Vandersteel,   she was on,   Patriot Streetfighter,   with Scott McKay,   and, she's involved now in a huge   IRS fraud Rico case,   with a guy by the name of Michael Ellis.  

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Yes. Michael Ellis. The name Well, I I told the story the other day.   When I was doing shows with Al Attisk,   Al knew Michael Ellis.   And,   Michael Ellis is, and was even back then, this ten years ago or so more,   is a expert on IRS manuals and procedures internally.   K?   And,   then what because I was doing shows with Al, Al knew him. And, of course, Glenn is my teacher who has the entire IRS scheme all the way back to December   and how it operates and how they utilize   all those codes.   Well,   Alice had never been exposed to that, of course, and and, Glenn had not been exposed to the,   all the moves in the   manuals. And what that came down to, I've told story a couple of times.  

I was surprised,   Anne hasn't, I guess she doesn't know my background on this. But, anyway,   they had a doctor, in San Diego who'd been charged with two failure to files.   So what they agreed on was they found an attorney, a law firm that would was representing them that would work with with Michael, Ellis, and Glenn.   Glenn wrote all the process and submitted it to the,   law office, and then they would present it in court.   Well, he got ruled against at the in the district level, and then they appealed it to the ninth circuit, and they,   they ruled against him at the ninth circuit too. And this is when Julie this is when Glenn walked away from all this.  

Okay? Because he had them dead to rights.   Okay? And,   the,   what his comment to me was,   he said, Roger, not only can the jury not understand it, it's so complex the judge can't understand it either.   And so what came out of that, however,   was what Anne Vandersteel.   I saw a video of her on this. Somebody sent me   couple of weeks ago, and she was railing on Houston. I just came out of my Pilates class this morning. It's 08:00 or whatever.   Obviously, she's down in South Florida. And,   she was, saying, well, this is this guy. The IRS is in there just they're filing returns for this guy. They did it seven times,   you know, and acting like that was some big deal. Well, that's just substitute for return, a dummy return. That's nothing new, and it and it's not something they just started doing. They've been doing it for a long time.  

And that the whole their whole system hinges on that ability to do right that that there. But if that sounded correctly English, you're   more wide awake than I am.   Anyway, so what came out of that   was that push code o nine,   that's what Michael Ellis had determined. Those are called substitute for returns, SFRs.   Dummy returns, they're referred to in the Patriot Movement,   and that's when someone has not filed a return like this doctor in San Diego.   So the computer is programmed correctly,   and it is programmed to work off of a ten forty form. So you gotta volunteer in, sign the ten forty form, submit it, then the computer goes along. Well, if it doesn't have a ten forty form   filed,   the computer cannot go on to assessment   where they say how much you owe and put it on the books.  

And so   that's when they stop the computer with this push code o nine,   and they come up with whatever they say you owe. This is the doctor that hadn't filed. So they come up and conjure up whatever numbers they think, like, with me on $30,000   on little old me.   And then and then taking 35,000,   Julie, and came back and said, well, we took, you only owed us 30, but we took an extra 5 for taxes.   We think you're gonna owe in the future. Well, that's what you guys are, is you're helping me get some of that revenge back by going through this process and pulling yourself out of the IRS system.   And so,   anyway, after all that was over,   the justice department came out with a national moratorium.  

National. All federal district courts.   No one can bring up Bush Code o nine   at any federal district court in the country.   There's a moratorium on it.   That came out of that incident, and that was Michael Ellis' involvement with Glenn.   So, yeah, I wish,   I I wish, that Anne would touch base with me. I can give her a lot of insight in this that, I guess, Michael Ellis knows by now because Glenn told him the the whole system. But,   that seems to be her new deal, and, she doesn't realize that,   we got quite a, receptacle of knowledge here,   also.  

So, anyway, I know Anne's busy. I hold on just a second. I know Anne's busy. I'd love to hear from her. I don't know what's going on with her. I don't know why she hasn't followed up,   with me, but she's missing a a hell of a receptacle of knowledge that she could use and become more powerful with. So, anyway, that's, all I know, Julie. What were you gonna say?  

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I was gonna say it involves a, legal non filer by the name of Ben House.   And apparently the IRS was going into his individual master file and manipulating this. And I guess the   IRS has   IRKS   and the AIMS system.   They're going in the back of there and now they're telling him that he owes   back taxes for the last eight years are about to seize his house. And the Department of Justice has submitted under oath for this fraud.   And,   it's the IRS and then the taxation division of the Department of Justice and the judicial courts in the Ninth Circuit that are involved in the RICO case.   So they already have irrefutable evidence   proving that the computer systems,   were altered and,   mister   Howe as well as mister Ellis have opened up an investigation   on the office of inspector general at the tax division waiting to hear what the outcome is because they gotta go back to the ninth circuit and the deadline is September 4.  

I guess they gotta go back there but,   she was named and named. She named IRS revenue officer Marler altered all IRS computer records. She named IRS attorney Kimberly L. Clark   concealed how the records were actually created. You knew it, but you've concealed it. She named the Department of Justice used these records in court to back the government case and they knew the records didn't exist and that they were fabrication.   So she apparently has emailed and gone into Ed Martin's   office and physically delivered these,  

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documents to him. Yeah. Ed Martin isn't gonna pay any I doubt if he's gonna pay much attention to that. He's got his plate pretty full.   But there's some interesting developments on that side as dealing with IRS, and we'll get to that after this.   Well, listen. I wish him a lot of luck. I don't know if they're gonna be able to. Do we know if the guy the the non filer has filed an affidavit or not?   Has he changed status? See, we don't know any of those things. Yeah. They've been doing that. This isn't something new. They've been doing it the whole damn time. They go into your master file and include you in and identify you as a foreign insurer or builder or truck bodies or something. They've got all kinds of weird definitions in there. We don't really know why or how their stuff works internally. We just know it's fraud. Okay? So well, I wish her a lot of luck on that, Michael Ellis too. Maybe they'll, maybe they'll glean a victory out of there. Hope so for them.   My, my my spiny senses say that probably won't happen.  

Yeah. But we'll see. And I wish,   I never did get to talk with Michael Ellis. I just knew his name and knew that he and Glenn were talking and all that kind of stuff. Yes, Paul?  

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Isn't that how they got Wesley Snipes?   They did a bunch of,   SFRs,   and,   by the time they went after him, it was in the millions.  

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Well, it could have been. They can make up whatever damn number they want.   See, if you haven't filed, then it's go ahead, Julie.  

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I think he went into court. He was not a national. I think he went into court. State. National. Using his all caps.  

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He was he he wasn't, I don't think, was he? No. He wasn't. Absolutely not. Because I know who his attorney was. You know who his attorney was?  

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I can't remember. But Barnes. Tell me who it was. Barnes. Yeah.   He he used his all caps name, I think, also in court.  

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More of that bullshit people bringing into court.   Wow. So, yeah, they slammed him.   And, they'll probably slam this guy too is my prediction. I hope I'm wrong, but that's the way it's always happened. And   well, we'll see. Good luck to him.   On the tax front and, Ed Martin,   you know, him and Alex have known each other for years   personally.   And, evidently,   he,   Ed Martin, came up through Phyllis Schlafly's organization.   Were you around when Phyllis Schlafly was around, Julie?   She's dead now.  

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Does that name ring up? I don't know who's You don't know who she  

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is. She was I think she was Catholic. She had a real big,   organization. I can't remember what the name of it was. It's pretty popular. My friend Harvey Wysong,   mother Lee   was, involved with   can can you please let me at least freaking finished   what I'm saying.   God, you people are unbelievable.   Phyllis Schlafly   had an organization out of Chicago,   and   Harvey's mother was a member of that in Georgia.   And she and another gal   single handedly   in working around the state, calling, driving around, attending council meetings, etcetera,   they defeated the equal rights amendment   because Georgia was the spring swing state to get it ratified and in the constitution.  

And it was my friend Harvey's mother that stopped that with another gal. Okay?   So, she was affiliated with Phyllis Lafley.   Okay. Ferris, is that you interrupting me? You're gonna take Waheed's place or whatever it was? No. This is Matt. This is Matt. I was just gonna tell you it was the Eagle Forum. She founded the Eagle Forum. Eagle Forum. Thank you. That's what we're looking for, Eagle Forum.   And she's passed now, but she's quite an entity back in those days. And Ed Martin   evidently got his start there.   So Ed and Alex   got together over last weekend, I think,   and had talked for hours. And Ed Martin is is telling him basically.  

It's a lot of stuff Alex said he couldn't relay, but he could relay a bunch.   And the way they're gonna go after a lot of these people is tax evasion.   They had non filers. Half of the people in congress hadn't filed taxes in years. A lot of the IRS agents, etcetera too, and some of these congressmen.   So,   evidently, that's what he said. It's a lot easier to go after these guys   like they did Al Capone on a tax issue   rather than try and go in on a RICO issue, which is a long trial and takes a lot of proof, and they can throw them in jail on tax stuff. Well, now the problem with that is they don't get to stay in jail as long,   but they can go through more people in a short amount of time and at least have them see the crowbar hotel for a little while.  

So, that I thought was very insignificant.   It's it's not insignificant significant   and, insightful   information. They're gonna go after them on taxes and low hanging fruit charges.   Yes, Paul.  

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It accomplishes the same thing, though. I mean, they may only be,   be in the Graybar Motel for so long. But once you're convicted of a felony, then   aren't they pre pre   precluded   from  

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holding any government office after that? I don't know. I'm not sure about that, but they've got some restrictions on them for sure.   And,   so we'll see as we go forward. I mean,   hell, they got so many offenders here. It's   they they they don't have the time or the personnel hardly to to go after all of them.   You know, Ed Martin,   Paul, do you know what, Trump gave him   No. To work with?   He's got 800,   attorneys,   employees,   and a billion dollar budget.  

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There you go. That ought to be about And what they're doing, Julie,  

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is they're holding one they've got grand juries open all over the country.   Missouri,   Texas,   New York,   Florida,   a couple other places. One of the main ones is just to the east of you, I believe there. It's the county   that includes Langley, the,   CIA,   and,   oh, a couple of other baddies,   agencies are in that county, and that's why they took the grand jury there, and it's in Virginia.   That would be Fairfax County. That's the county I'm in. Okay. Well, they're having a grand jury in your county. If they,   call you for jury duty, please do not refuse.   But they've already got that seated. I think it's open for the next two weeks, that grand jury there. Yeah. Loudoun County. Right?  

So anyway, there's a lot of stuff happening in the background. Now it's not gonna materialize tomorrow.   Our people have to go through things the right way unlike,   the other guys,   who always cut corners and do stuff that's not right.   But we're gonna do it right so there's no blowback. And evidently, there will be,   indictments   and trials   and and charges   coming. Although it may take it ain't gonna happen tomorrow, maybe a month or two or   three or four, something like that. So we'll see. That's exciting happening on that front.   I guess that's about all I've got of any great appointments tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I did. I had my little dental appointment yesterday.  

So,   I've yeah. Oh, boy is right.   I got some major problems, and,   we're gonna have to have   one setting   because of potential   contamination   from top to bottom,   and I'm gonna get seven implants in one day.   Some of them are gonna have to add bone to. And there will not be a show on that day.   Well, there it'll be in the afternoon   because   that operation is gonna take hours.   But, I don't know about the next day. Yeah. But we'll see. Is that I don't have the appointment yet. I gotta go back on Wednesday. He's gonna map my mouth.   They got all kinds of fancy dental stuff now.  

And,   but anyway, so Wednesday afternoon, and they'll probably set the appointment from there. But I've got that coming up, which  

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you can imagine is not gonna be any fun. Okay? Yeah. You're gonna need you're gonna need at least forty eight hours,   for   the oral surgery   and to even start   on the recovery.  

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So Well, we'll see. You know, I mean, that's a lot of work. And, you know, the problem we've got down here is they don't have any good pain pills down here. You can't get class three narcotics or anything.   And, so you're relegated to taking Tylenol and take two of these kind of things,   Ibuprofen or whatever, two of these together, and it amplifies the effect.   And it's almost like a class three narcotic, but I don't like living on that stuff. Right. So, anyway, I'm gonna have to face that. And,   it's just, the,   repercussions and not taking care of my teeth when I was young. And so if you guys got children or something, please instill in them,   teeth,   good dental,   care, hygiene, habits,   because you don't wanna go through this stuff. You don't wanna pay for it and you don't wanna go through it. Thank god I'm not in The US. I'd probably be $6,070,000   dollars, just that one operation.  



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Yeah.   Hey, Raj. I have Yes. I have a suggestion.   We have we've done this in the past, but I think over the course of time, we've lost touch with it.   And   as far as   audience and student participation,   okay,   when Roger is talking about something, when he is talking about a topic Yeah. Or   something that's rather involved,   And you should be around you should have been around long enough to know,   how long it's gonna take   to talk about something.   Now if you have a comment   that is either a quick correction   on something   or a quick addition that you can get out in a few words,   just say   comment.  

Do it Yeah. Do it boldly   and clearly,   and then shut up and wait. And then Matt Matt.  

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I don't wanna comment while you're talking.   Matt, you could've just entered an Eagles forum or something like that. I understand what you're trying to do. That was helpful. I didn't know it.   But it what happens with me is I'm sitting here totally on memory.   I do this whole show. They're not a piece of paper in front of me or any of that. It's all right out of my mind. And if I get down one of these paths like that and somebody interrupts it, throws me off, and I'll lose my chain of thought. Not all the time, but often.   And so just and I appreciate what Matt was trying to do is identify Eagle Forum for Phyllis Schlafly's organization.  

But, yeah, I guess instead of  

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interrupting, you just said Eagles Forum, and that would have grabbed it and I'd have corrected it. That would have gone forward. So I find I find that works best for you, Roger. Sorry to interrupt you, but I find that works best for you than to even say comment.   If you're   helping your memory,   throw that word name of whatever, and and you are able to roll.  

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Yep. Right. Still Otherwise, if I get lost and I'm gone, then and I can't follow the train for whatever reason, that doesn't happen too long. It'll usually come back. But, anyway, just, just a suggestion for the folks. I don't mean to bark at you or bite you, but, I just   I don't wanna get,   interrupted on these trains of thought when I'm trying to explain something to you because, as you know, this stuff's complex. I'm having to do mental recall at 77   years old here. So, anyway, thank you, Matt. Eagle Forum.   And, that's about all I had to say this morning that I can take down.  

Oh, you weren't done. I'm sorry.  

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No. I wasn't done.   So   okay, if if you've got a correction, just blurt out the correction, like e Eagles Forum. Okay? And then we'll just keep on rolling.   Alright?   If you have a comment,   keep it brief.   Make sure that it's connected and related to what we're talking about, but keep it brief. Don't don't use it as a five minute opportunity for a soapbox   like I'm doing right now.   Yeah. And   if you have a question   or something that is a new unrelated   topic,   Roger will periodically   ask for,   does anybody have any questions or does anybody have   a subject or a topic that they wanna cover?  

He will do that at the conclusion of whatever discussion happened.   That's your opportunity to speak up. Okay?  

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Yep. So, anyway, I don't want to bark anybody. It's just trying to get protocol. I just don't wanna   excuse me.  

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Well, I don't want anyone to get yelled at because Roger gets frustrated when he's trying to get a complex,   theory out,   and then somebody   cuts his Yeah. Legs off the knees.  

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Try and maintain it just to like you a good example, Matt, instead of saying   interrupting   Roger or whatever, just say eagle form. Boom. That that would have been Yeah. That So That's perfect.   Alright. So, listen. I wonder,   Todd wasn't with us yesterday. Todd, are you with us today?  

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Yes. I were you today. Yeah. I'm sorry. I was the one that actually jumped in, and, all I was gonna say because I'm always staying on topic. I never wanna throw you off. That's not a good good thing. So I'm trying to follow along with you. All I was gonna say is I love pain. So when you go through this, remember, all that pain you go through is only gonna make you stronger. That's all that I was gonna say. Oh, I mean, I'll get topic,   and it would have been quick. Yeah.  

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No pain, no gain. Right, Todd? Yeah.   That's Look, it's just something, I've been dealing with my whole life. I hate going to dentist because I never get good news from them. Okay?   And, but this will   it looks like cure a lot of this stuff,   probably   for the rest of my life. I was asking him about the,   the retention of that stuff, and he uses very sophisticated,   cutting edge materials and stuff. He's   very, technically,   advanced dentist, and he's got all these gimmicks and stuff. And,   and he does real good work, and the,   the implants   are actually out of zirconium.  

And, I've gotten one put in and installed in the difference in the quality of what I've experienced before   night and day. So, anyway, he's a great dentist and a good guy. And so, it's just one of those things you gotta deal with. You know? I   I paid the price. I'm gonna have to do the dance,   or I did the dance. I'm gonna have to pay the price, whichever way that thing goes. Anyway, Todd, you weren't with us yesterday. So are you guys do you usually have some sort of a thing on Monday where you're, got other things to do in our time zone?  

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No. I could do every show unless it's completely impossible. But then I'll go back and I'll rewatch it and watch the transcript to see if anything matches,   to the exact depth of just getting free, which is all my focus right now. Yeah. And I just wanted to ask you a question. Like, if I was to bring some new people or pretend I'm I'm brand new. Right? Then Well, you you kinda are.   Well, I yeah. That's why I am new. Right? So I'm a student always. But let's say somebody's brand new in here right now. Right? Yes, sir. What and I said, hey. Come on to Rogers sales. So this is just unbelievable. They show you how to get free. Is there any   what I'm I'm brand new in here. Right? So can we start from, like, the beginning? Like, I'm talking where you have no rebuttals from all the years of doing it that then the kind of the quick three steps and how vital it is to become a national. Would that be possible?  



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Well, I guess so. Let's see. Start at the beginning.   The beginning would be, I suppose, the civil war.   That's when they and I would tell new people.   I've come to the conclusion. It just hit me recently within the last couple years,   that the,   the civil war was started by these people behind the scenes to get this system in place.   And the first thing they had to do was   give   two different political statuses.   So we had a big problem with the slaves. They had the war going, and they see   have have told a lot of people that it was fought over slavery. Well,   you could say it was. It was fought to enslave all of us down the road. You could take that approach.  

But it certainly wasn't   fought to free the black slaves.   All they did was move them in a instill in a slavery condition.   They moved them off the Southern plantation, and they put them on the federal plantation.   They were still in a sense of servitude because underlying this whole thing is the feudal system, and that's the condition they were in where   the federal government had a property right in them.   Now that's a you know, there's so much here, Todd, and they've done so much to conflagrate   it and obscure it.   So if you've got brand new people   and we're talking about the word property, they may have a problem with that.  

Because one of the things most of you do, I assume, is look at yourself in the mirror every day when you're brushing your teeth or getting up or getting ready to do whatever you're gonna do.   And you look at yourself in that reflection and go, well, hell, I'm not a slave. I'm sitting here doing what I want.   This, that, and the other. They tell me I'm free. I sing Lee Greenwood's.   Glad to be an American at every sporting event I ever go to. Hell, I'm free. What do you mean?   Well, this property word has a twin definition,   and one of them is a colloquial   definition, of course, and the other is a highly technical definition. They do this with a lot of words. I'm picking this out because it's just a perfect example, especially for someone that's new.  

And so,   I could say to Todd, say, Todd, well, I heard you. You paid your last payment on that car out there last month. And so now is that car your property?   And we'd all understand what the question was. And and Todd would say yes, and we'd all understand that conversation. But if you take it into a courtroom,   it's totally different conversation   because the car is not your property.   The car is called a thing,   and your property is a right. You know, you've heard property rights. You've heard that comment.   Well, property is a right, and it's a right of ownership   in into the thing.  

In law, the car is the thing, and your property is a right of ownership into it. You can go sell it. You can drive it off the cliff. You can repaint it. You can have it crushed at the at the junkyard. You can do anything you want with it.   That's your property right. So when I tell you that they've got a property right in you,   that maybe that'll help you differentiate   between those two. And that's what they're doing is they're using   highly technical definitions.   And then we're relying on colloquial definitions, and they're not the same.   Okay? I mean, that's a small shift, but it's very important,   especially in our understanding of the condition.  

I would say for one thing, the famous Goethe.   Todd, do you know who Goethe was? Are you familiar with him, German philosopher?   No. Still, sir. G o e r t e, I believe is the way they spell it.   Or t h e or something. Anyway, he, wrote a opera called Faust. Are you familiar with Faust?  

[00:36:51] Unknown:

I don't get  

[00:36:53] Unknown:

it. Faust is an opera. He wrote about a young man that did cut a deal with the devil.   K? Well, Goethe's famous saying is,   and I get this, get the adjectives here,   there are none so helplessly   enslaved   as those who falsely   believe they are free.   There are none so helplessly   enslaved   as those who falsely believe they're free. And that's exactly   the condition they've got us in right there.   K?   So they took this black,   for mainly, not totally, but mainly for the black, former slaves. Took them off the Southern plantation, put them on the federal plantation.   And then, eighty years later, they, they had taken over the monetary supply,   and,   that gave them control of the government.  

And in 1933   on March 9,   You can go look this up in the Black's Law Dictionary. It's called the bank holiday of nineteen thirty three.   And,   they   closed the banks down, and when they reopened according to Black's Law Dictionary, they opened with regulations   put forth by the secretary of the treasury. Well,   before March 9, there wasn't a secretary of the treasury.   And before March 9, there weren't any regulations.   So when you're talking about the deep state,   we use that term often,   you're talking about the administrative   state of unelected bureaucrats in key positions.  

And what they do,   their function, their job function,   is they take legislation   that's passed by the congress,   and then they reinterpret   it because they're the, quote, unquote, experts in the field,   and they reinterpret   it up until last year any way they wanted to.   That's the Chevron decision from last year that changed that.   And then they make what's called public   policy. You've heard that word before, Todd, public policy.   And all public policy is is just this reworded   legislation   by the agencies,   and they apply that to the serfs, you.   And that's how all of the you know, your congressman doesn't come and ding you.  

It's always the agencies that come and ding you. They've got the enforcement powers. K?   And so what they do is take   existing legislation passed by the congress, signed by the president,   then they assign it to the agency   depending on subject matter,   and their unelected bureaucrats   remake that law. They're called little laws.   The fourth estate here,   little laws,   they publish them   in   a legal organ of the federal government called the federal register.   That's the legal organ of the federal government,   and they publish them in there.   And depending on the regulation and the types, we haven't gone over that yet with your you and your group yet, Todd.  

But, anyway, then they publish them in the federal register, and you're supposed to be keeping up with that. And if they apply to you, you're supposed to adjust your   actions and whatever accordingly. So   they've lumped us all in. After that 33,   then everybody was put into the position   of citizen of The United States sitting there vacant, existing, applying only to blacks,   and they took it and applied it to everybody as sureties   for a fraudulent   bankruptcy   in 1933   and, in the bond market, by the way.   And so,   that's what they've done. They switched us all into that condition without our permission, just under all these,   oh,   you call it,   presumptions of law.  

K? They they work under this   process called presumption of law.   And if you go again to Black's Law Dictionary and look in there, a presumption of law is a presumption   that's based upon another fact.   So they go in and fraudulently   bankrupt the country in the bond market.   They put everybody in here in this condition as a presumption.   Oh, we've got these people here. We've got a property right in them. Let's just move them in total over here into that condition.   And there'll be the sureties for this fraudulent bankruptcy.   So now you're working on a presumption.  

The bankruptcy   happens, least supposing to them. And now we've got a presumption law that we can do all these things.   And so they put you into the condition,   it's voluntary servitude because that's the only one that's constitutional.   Okay?   And they people say this isn't constitutional, folks. It's past constitutional muster.   I I I know you might find that hard to believe. The courts have agreed on it. K?   So they've got you in the condition.   As a baby, your parents are in it. So when you're born,   because your parents are in the condition, you're born in the same condition.   They don't inform you of that, of course.  

But as your life goes forward and you turn the age of majority, 18,   and they keep asking you these questions. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? And then you always have to sign something.   Well, what they're doing is they've got this presumption going off of this fraud,   and they put you in it, but they come back and ask you   with those two questions, you not knowing what they're asking you.   You think it's something simple. It's quite complex.   And what you're doing is completing the contract   by agreeing with them.  

You didn't   get negotiated   with when you were born.   You couldn't comprehend all that. They're sure not gonna tell your parents.   But later down the line, they're gonna ask you.   And when you, unknowingly, as to what they're asking you, answer yes affirmative and sign something,   what you've technically   legally done   is given them a way out.   Now they've got what's called plausible deniability.   I mean, Todd, you were asked those questions. You've got an obligation and a duty to know about the law.   You you you you're supposed to know about it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.   So when you tell me you're a slave and you sign something,   I'm gonna take you at your word.  

Now you may not know what your word was, but, boy, I do.   And, man, I got some plausible deniability   now.   Well, Todd signed it. He told me. He said, yes. I'm in that capacity   of a former black slave   taken off of the southern plantation and put on the federal plantation. And then you asked me that resonant question, which basically   is, do you give me your consent to govern you in this capacity?   And look, you said yes every time I ever ask you, Todd. What the hell you expect me to believe?  

[00:44:11] Unknown:

Well, I'm the one who gave up my voluntary servitude, and I checked the box. It was my choice. I guess that was I didn't read good enough. I think I should take the blame and try to get myself free now that we know. You know? Well, I agree. I totally agree with that, and you've got a very firm basis of fraud. Fraud vitiates any contract ab initio.  

[00:44:29] Unknown:

What that means is if there's fraud involved anywhere in the process of that contract,   the minute the fraud now this is very, very interesting. This came from one of my former friends. I guess he's still a friend. Tom Schramm was on used to be on these shows with us years ago. One of my research buddies from years ago. And Tom comes on and he makes this statement. He said fraud and fraud until it's discovered, Todd.   Now chew on that one for a minute.  

[00:44:57] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, it's an adverse action. You gotta bring the claim.   Ignorance is of the law is no excuse on both sides. And if you let these bills, which are the coupon keep coming in and don't do nothing about them, that is you you being dishonored because you made that obligation. You have to take care of that obligation. Yeah. Well, you're you agreed to it. You gotta change it. You gotta bring the fraud forward and confront the party with it. That's what the affidavit does.  

[00:45:20] Unknown:

That's why they recognize it. But one of the reasons there's many reasons.   Anyway, that's basically what's going on. They set this thing up, I believe, and I think I can I've got a a lot more proof in that column,   because it just hit me recently within the last couple of months   that along that same time was when they took Darby's   information on the rapture and all that garbage from early eighteen hundreds,   and they transferred it to a guy named Cyrus Scofield,   who wrote the Scofield study bible. And that was in that same time frame, eighteen fifties and eighteen sixties. So   there they are planning the dispensationalism   part of this rapture and all that stuff where they're gonna co opt all the Christians who are so damn gullible to believe it.  

And that's the same time they were cooking up this war where they had this other whole scheme   on the back burner of making us all slaves. And then this,   because the citizens of The United States,   we're the slavery people. They extend our   our labor and collateralize it through the bond market and the birth certificate.   And, then the World Reserve current oh, whoop whoop whoop whoop. Just a second. Then the World Reserve   Currency   is backed by us, and then they control the whole world through the world reserve currency and by de facto us.   So when you pull yourself out of IRS,   it puts a hitch in their giddy up because you're not contributing   to paying off the debt anymore. And that's the crux. That's their vigorous.  

That's their pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.   $37,000,000,000,000   in fake   bonds,   and we pay them over a trillion dollars a year in interest.   That and see, that's what you're removing yourself from.   And that's a real big deal. And it honestly, over all these years,   that's something that's just come to me, you know, within the last few years of how important this tax system is. It's their absolute total Achilles heel.   K? Now we're getting talk about getting rid of the IRS.   They've gone through six or seven commissioners since Trump got in. They've now named Besant,   the secretary of the treasury who normally oversees IRS.  

He's now the secretary of the treasury, which if you go into title 28 there, Todd, and I'm not sure the section,   but there'll be a single statement right there. It says, the secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund.   The secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund. What fund would that be?   That would be the International Monetary Fund. So Scott Basant   doesn't really even get paid by the federal government, I don't believe. He gets paid by the International Monetary Fund, and so does, I would   say, Pam Bondi.  

If you're gonna go in and take over a country through bankruptcy,   you gotta be able to control the law, and you gotta be able to control the financial part.   And there's your two key issues. That's why when Trump tried to get Bob Barr to go back on the false election stuff,   and Bob Barr says there was no fraud, and I'm having to refer to internal   DOJ   documents.   Well, what's that? Well, the fact that you're,   the International Monetary Fund guy and you don't want Trump to be able to do this.   So those two positions are controlled.   K?  

And, that's where we are.   All you have to do because it's fraud,   if you're new,   and because it's gotta be voluntary,   because the thirteenth amendment says neither slavery nor involuntary   servitude shall exist in a state unless a person has been duly collect convicted of a crime.   So it can't be either one of those,   and legal by omission   is voluntary servitude.   Because they can't come take your rights away,   but you can darn sure give them away, and they can trick you into giving them away.   But the key to that whole scenario   is that those are voluntary.  

And just like you were tricked into volunteering   in in that little   trick I just went over with the two questions and the signature,   well, you can volunteer out too. And there's nothing they can say about it because it is voluntary and it is fraud.   So that's why we don't have any problems with these people,   with the exception occasionally   of local fiefdoms and sheriffs and judges.   But now yesterday,   Shane from South Carolina came in and gave us his, you weren't here yesterday, Todd.   Very interesting.   Shane has been fighting   this. Him and his wife in South Carolina and one of the counties that borders North Carolina   had gotten stopped several times.  

This has gone on over a couple years. They had taken his passport, I believe, at one point and all this stuff, and he's been trying to fight it and and all these things for several years. Well, Shane came on and told us yesterday that he got in the middle of the court stuff, and he said, well, this is a bunch of crap.   I'm just gonna call the sheriff   directly.   And he called the sheriff and said,   I'd like to have a meeting with you and explain to you what we're doing. We're not sovereign citizens or any of that stuff. And the sheriff said okay.   And him and his wife went in and totally educated the sheriff of their county, and they dropped all the charges.  

That's fire. That's pretty cool.   Okay?  

[00:51:08] Unknown:

That should be inspirational to some folks. Roger, that's the way it should be. We should be letting all the sheriff, the coroner, everybody needs to know we're well alive and living, and we're a national. And we don't play any of this feudal system well, and we're honorable. We actually are we handle ourselves about a higher standard,   than than the average, but we do not give you consent.  

[00:51:29] Unknown:

And that's what I've said for a long time is part of our job is to reeducate people like this. Shane,   made an made an overture. The sheriff accepted it and, sat down. And I told them if   if they wanna relay to the sheriff, I'll be happy to give the sheriff and all of his deputies class on this, okay, for free.   But we'll see how that turns out. Anyway, that was a very interesting turn of events yesterday   to see a sheriff receptive.   And, you know, I think what's happened is people things are have gotten so bad,   and all this Israeli stuff is coming out on how badly they control the country and everything else that people even like this sheriff are saying,   look, I don't know what's going on, but I want some answers.  

And I think that may have been what that was.  

[00:52:18] Unknown:

Many are many are finding their conscience, and many are stepping up and saying, why am I doing this? And they're actually coming. It's it's God's army or whoever your higher creator is. It's God's army that is waking up   to it's just too bad now. It's at a point where it's too bad, but we don't have to focus on the bad. We focus on becoming national and our boats count and getting rid of starting local and getting rid of these people that are making these,   a lot of the don't even pertain to us, but to pertain to the people that are sleeping, like our family that won't listen to us, that keep protecting US citizen and eating McDonald's. So,   you know, it's getting so bad that we have to we can't throw up on people, but we have to at least drop seeds and and they'll go when they're ready. Would you agree, Roger?  



[00:53:02] Unknown:

I would. And the other thing about it is as tight as the economy evidently is up there right now,   it it's gonna give you I think it was like ex ex gentile,   called in yesterday talking about this. He said, look. I get a thousand extra dollar in my paycheck.   Okay? So this is something if you really got your little fanny in a crack because of the economy, this may be a way to get yourself a little extra,   a little extra finances.   So there's a lot of implications to it. You might have to stand up and belligerently,   claim your your position and defend it. That's part of this.  

And, you know, if you're a new student, we welcome you. Will everybody here? We got a big brain trust, people that have been around here for years,   people that are new, folks that have really glammed onto this and applied it to their lives.   And, we'd like for you to become part of the crowd. The the the the more numbers we get, the stronger we become.   And, Todd, I don't know if I've told you this or not, but John Benson, my law teacher,   used to in those seminars, he'd get up there and say, the only way I can protect my liberty, Todd,   is to help you protect yours.  

So when you decide to take this step, you've got a duty in in essence to spread it also   because it strengthens   your position.  

[00:54:27] Unknown:

K? And listen, if we three three three, you're sounding the you're sounding the horn.  

[00:54:32] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, if see, that's what frustrates me about this Ann Vandersteel thing. I got to talk to weigh in one time for about two hours.   And,   she got she seemed to get it, but you can't grab onto this and know all the underlying stuff in two hours.   You just can't do it. Okay?   And so I haven't really had   a bachelors get together or want you wanna do an interview or something.   And she's got with her high profile, I guess, just all kinds of people yanking her chain.   She's got this thing with IRS that she's,   all of a sudden committed to learn about.  

And,   that's not gonna happen overnight. I can promise you that. But she does have a good guy that knows the internal side of it, Michael Ellis.   And we'll see. I'm just the only thing I can do with Anne is just to sit back and wait and see if she comes back around and wants information from me. I'm not gonna chase her. Okay?   And,   so if that time comes, I'll be more than happy to dispense it. I'd love to,   help teach her and give her a really firm foundation.   She's a hell of a lot prettier and younger than I am.   And,   I'd like to get her. She'll certainly come in her time. Right, Roger? Well, I guess so, Todd. That's the only can figure. Well, her time or God's time? One of the two. Anyway Yeah. Because it's God's time. So hey. I have a question for you. Well, I patiently sit here and wait. Let me just for you launch off there. I was patient   and wait,   to hear from her. And whether we do or don't, I don't know. I hope so.  

And I'd I'd love to help school her up before she'd be even more effective.   But, you know, she hadn't got to that point yet, so we'll see. Now what were you gonna say?  

[00:56:19] Unknown:

Well, I you know, I I I'm new here, and I I heard something about this citizen,   evidence affidavit. Like, it's a kind of a declaration. And,   it's somebody told me it was very important, and it's actually very simple.   And what I put on it and how I have it notarized and sent to,   it takes, like, a day, really. It's not very hard. I believe there's only one sentence that's that's very important. But what what what is the what's this affidavit  

[00:56:45] Unknown:

all about, Roger? Well, an affidavit.   And you can do a declaration on this. In fact, the last one I did, I did a declaration.   Your January 4 last, I'd renewed my passport.   And down here   in South America,   notaries   are lawyers.   What what happens here in the law schools   is,   all the students go through three years of the same curriculum.   And then in their final year, they decide whether they want to be a trial attorney or a contract attorney.   And then they have specialized   curriculum for that.   And a trial attorney is called an abogado,   and a contract attorney is called an escabano.  

And an escabano,   the contract attorney is also the notary.   So if I'm gonna go get something notarized   here,   it's just such a pain in the ass. It can cost you $80. You gotta get something, then you gotta go get it at Apostille,   which means that you've gotta go make sure that the notary lawyer who notarized it was a registered notary in Ecuador.   So it's all this pain in the ass stuff. So I just sent in a declaration. You can do that. It says you can do that right there in the warning box and the instructions of the passport application.   But a affidavit is always better because an affidavit   that's, properly formed, properly   notarized,   properly presented to proper authority, and stands unrebutted.  

That affidavit is the highest form of truth in law.  

[00:58:28] Unknown:

And the reason What would we say on that affidavit?  

[00:58:31] Unknown:

What would you say? Well, it depends on you.   There's several suggestions.   We've got a sample affidavit   on the website.   I wrote it. There's no wiggle room in it. It's two paragraphs.   And, it's just a expansion of the one that they've got on as an example.   The example's a little differently   staged   on the state department website, which is just one sentence.   And that's how easy it is to get out of this federal mess. It's one sentence on one piece of paper   presented to one guy,   and they can't say no.   Because you see what new people don't generally understand,   Todd,   is everything is voluntary.  

If it's not voluntary,   it's tyranny.   So if they try and stop you from deciding what laws you wanna live under, then they're open tyrants. They'll never be open tyrants. That's why one of the reasons this works. There's a whistler there. We've got Alan back, which means we gotta say bye to folks, and Paul is chomping at the bit to get on here and do just that, aren't you, Paul?  

[00:59:41] Unknown:

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[01:00:15] Unknown:

Thank you, Paul. So on this affidavit thing,   they can't say no.   And the reason they can't say no is it goes back all the way to the seventeen hundreds, seventeen fifty in   a document called Vattel's,   v a t t e l. I think it's two t's.   Vattel's law of nations.   In the sixteen hundreds, we had had an agreement called the Westphalian   agreement where all the fiefdoms   rolled up into countries.   So that's where this change is called the Westphalian,   agreement.   And then a hundred years later, because of the new countries,   Vatel   wrote this law of nations, and every country in the world signed on to it. They still do today. They follow it for the most part.  

So, that's the primary   concept that's we're at work here,   and I'll I'll give it to you for straight from Patel's. Every man   has the right   of personal,   political   self   determination.   Now where have we seen that recently? Well, this is the theory that they used to run all these migrants in.   Every man had well, I wanna go live in The US. Is that against the law? Well, it doesn't matter. We'll get you in there.   Again, plausible deniability, but that's the basis of what they're doing with all this stuff.   So everybody in the world signed on to that. You have the right to decide what. Let's simplify this.   You have the right to decide what either country you wanna live in or better put what laws you wanna live under.  

So that's your choice.   It's gotta be voluntary. And if they tell you what you are, no, you're not that. We get these letters back. It appears by what you've submitted that you're a citizen of The United States, blah blah blah blah blah from the passport office.   If they were telling you that you have to be a citizen of The United States, that's open tyranny.   They can't tell you what you're gonna be. That's got to be your decision, and that's what that affidavit is the vehicle to do.   It's to tell them remember, we talked about   presumptions law. Very important concept.  

So you've been running under this presumption all the time, and unless you tell them otherwise,   because you've always agreed with it every time they ever ask you.   Okay?   Now you've got to go in and tell them that's not what you are on this over here.   Now the state department in The US still recognizes   the Vatel,   but what they've done is they've hidden the fact that you can   patriot   to the original state citizen.   But they'll let you ex patriot,   which means they still conform at least partially to Vatel because you can still make your choice   on which set of laws you wanna live under. But it's a very now   expensive process,   cost thousands of dollars,   and you're probably gonna have to wait at least six months before it can happen.  

And one of the requirements is from the state department   is you've gotta go get the other country's passport   first,   then you come back and you can expatriate.   But they won't let you expatriate   into a void and be stateless   because you have no rights and duties except natural.   So that's why they hide this like that. They don't want anybody have any kind of natural rights   or contact with God or access to the protections of the constitution.   And that's what we we regain   by   finding and understanding their fraud,   voluntarily   telling them, no. That's not me. And remember, it's not are you a person.  

It's which person are you.   No. I'm not that person under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment in a condition of voluntary servitude based on fraud.   I'm this other person over here, this state citizen that you've relabeled   as a national,   and now I'm connected to my creator. I'm made in his image. I'm create connected to my creator, and I receive not only my rights, but I owe my duties to him.   And therefore, I have total constitutional   protections.   I can own any caliber firearm I want.   I don't have to go to a licensed dealer to buy it. If I wanna have a 155   millimeter howitzer in my backyard   and I can feed it, I can have it.  

Okay?   So there are no restrictions.   And that's the important of the affidavit. They'll never confront it because they can't. They can't deny the fraud.   They can't rebut it.   That only leaves them, well, two choices. They can take the mask off and be open tyrants,   or they can stand mute and recognize your position by not saying anything,   which means they agree with it because silence deems consent.   And it it it it,   it it also means that they gotta sit there and they it really in essence,   when you send one of these in, Todd,   aren't they convicting themselves when they can't counteract it?  

The fraud's right there in front of them. They can't rebut it.  

[01:05:38] Unknown:

It's only a couple sentences, and it's kind of like we're not really asking. We're we're honorably petitioning them to put this in their administrative file. I don't have to ask them for jack crap. I tell them what I am, and they've gotta recognize it.  

[01:05:52] Unknown:

And that's what our people can't get through to   because they've used so much force over so many years   that you don't think you have any power, and you you think you've gotta ask them permission, and you don't.   That's the misconception   of a lot of our new students   and a lot of people,   Todd. Sorry to say.   So, anyway, I don't know how short that was and concise,   but I tend to give a lot of details in background because I think people need it to totally understand things.   And, but that's what's going on. It's just a I'll tell you how simple it is. It's a bait and switch fraud.   You know? Oh, are you that or this? I I let's see. I guess I'm this. I don't know what the other is. You hidden it very effectively.  

I don't know that I've got to go in and claim it like king of the mountain, and I don't know anything. So I'm just gonna apply for a passport and roll on. Now I mentioned   that were you around this movement when the Browns you're up there in that neck of the woods, Todd.   Were you up there when the Browns went through their trial and got convicted up in   New Hampshire,   Vermont, or one of them? I forget which one. Are you familiar with that case?  

[01:07:07] Unknown:

Yeah. I I am a little bit. Could you tell me about it? Mhmm.  

[01:07:12] Unknown:

Let me swallow my liquid here.   Well, you know what they convicted them on?   Their passports.   Because they didn't know to do this and say they were free,   the presumption that I mentioned earlier rolls on.   So they agreed because they didn't put an affidavit in with their the the most recent passport application they had, and it was that they were citizens of The United States. If you're citizens of The United States according to 26   CFR 1.1 dash one a over in the IRS code, you owe the tax. So that's what they convicted them on their passports.   How about that?  



[01:07:57] Unknown:

Well, it sounds like, he was, he he has a he did have, you know, he did have involuntary sovereignty. It sounds like he wasn't something if they had a a choice to do that because he was not set up.  

[01:08:08] Unknown:

They had a chance to do it just like we do. They didn't know about this, so they didn't put an affidavit in and claim their god given status. And so they convicted him on their passports.  

[01:08:21] Unknown:

Oh, you agree? That's what we have to expect. You you agree in the vicinity   that little the little racket in their little It's We're in their field. We're in their feudal system. We're stuck in Washington, DC. So you until you're not, and you claim your status. This this affidavit is simple,   and you gotta get it done. It's important.  

[01:08:39] Unknown:

And I should add, if you are new and listening to this, dialogue here.   I I've been on the air about fifteen years now. So   helping people understand this, including me, because I've grown in my understanding by teaching you guys.   And, we've never had one blowback from the federal government in fifteen years of people. And my estimate is   that at least 2,000,000 people and possibly more have have done this already.   So there is no blowback. Where we get occasional,   sticky wickets, if you will,   is in local jurisdictions   over traffic crap.  

I mentioned the thing with Shane. Shane had been in this for years, him and his wife,   and,   they'd even pulled away. He tried to pull away when they were trying to get information on the side of the road, and they even had a high speed chase   on his record there, Todd.   And he went and called the sheriff and said, can can I explain this to you? The sheriff was receptive,   said yes,   listened to him and his wife, and they dropped all the charges.   I don't remember the county in North Carolina,   but, god bless that sheriff. K?   So we'll see if anything developed. But that's occasionally when you get these Hey, Rod. Counties that I call them. Yes. Hold on a second. I call them local fiefdoms   because you got like joy judge Roy Bean is the judge, the hanging judge, and then boss Hogg is the sheriff. And they don't want Todd   coming in there and telling him about the law and what they can and can't do to him. They take great umbrage   on that, Todd.  

Okay. Mirka and a guy were trying to say something.   The guy was first, but I'm gonna go with Mirka. He'll get you second. Go ahead, Mirka.  

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You, just wanted to mention, I always encourage people to do the affidavit   only because they have to rebut your affidavit no matter what you're using it for,   to defend yourself. So   this that's why I always encourage people to use the affidavit as your citizenship status   in order for them to   try to say, oh, no. You can't do that. You know, they would have to rebut it.  

[01:10:53] Unknown:

It's either one would work, but the affidavit is a higher threshold of proof for them to rebut. It's just a good idea all around to do it. Now I wanted to say,   you don't necessarily have to go to a notary. Somebody on here went to a notary the other day and they refused to notarize the document.   Right. Which, you know, well, notary's done in that damn power. They're commissioned by the state   to see you sign a document and have a piece of ID right there and identify that that's you   signing that document. That's all a notary does. They don't have any   legal   standing   NADA. Okay?  



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Right. But, you I did hear a lady asking about it. Well And I did tell her, you know, if she can't find a notary, she can use two witnesses  

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and get it notarized that way. Yep. Just put two witnesses on there. Don't need three. Gotta have two. Put two witnesses on there, and that suffices for a notary.   I could have probably done that down here, but I have to chase down some gringos and get them to witness this, and it's just easier to just do a declaration.   Okay? Because you can do it. That'll work.   But, who was the guy that was wanting to say something with Mercka there a second ago?  

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Yeah. This is, me, Izana from Austin. Izana. Hey, man. Yeah.   Good. Good. I had a a little break at work, so I decided to call and listen to you. Okay.   Ian, just wanted to share,   a little bit to some of the new people. Todd, it's,   been listening to you and,   just wanted to say hi. You know, welcome to the team. Just,  

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Thank you so much. Pleasure to meet you.  

[01:12:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Pleasure to   meet you.   So I wanted to say it's one of one of the,   US, you know, US code that, Roger   pointed us to   was,   title 42,   equal   rights under the law. Okay? And I wanted to read that to you a little bit,   because I have read this probably over 200 times. Chris. Small package.  

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Remember, 42   is the civil rights code.   42   is the code of the you know, you you   of the code that deals with all   fourteenth amendment citizens.  

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Yeah.   And and every every time every time I read it, I just pause and give a a   a a bit of, you know,   moment of silence for all the people,   that   fought for equal right   and,   and and died in the process, and all the people before us. And   the fact that I have an understanding of what this text mean means is I have just profound tremendous gratitude to you, Roger.   And, and I just wanna take a moment to read it and share with title 42.   And this is this is what, it makes, you know,   black people have an equal right as white people,   and it's got nothing to do with color.  

Okay? And that's the part that I understood, and I'm so grateful to Roger.   Or so it starts out by saying all persons   within the jurisdiction of The United States. Now that's 14 amendment to citizens. Right? Political jurisdiction.  

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Yes. Even abroad even abroad is obvious. For a long time, US citizens were the only citizens in the world that were taxed on their worldwide income. Go ahead.  

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Yeah.   Well, like, Keith, so   so so the person is very important. Yeah. Right. And is to and within the jurisdiction of The United   States. Right? So that would be   a former slave getting their rights from the federal government.   And that would be a fourteenth amendment.   Correct.   Okay.   Now the way it's put in here is that,   if you understand that, Todd,   then if you are a white person   and you consider yourself a person of the jurisdiction   of The United States,   According to this,   a white man is a black man. Yep.  

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And guess what? When a black man goes like Brent, our buddy Brent and the other   blacks who have gone through this, they become white.   How about that?  

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That was actually that was how I was gonna end.  

[01:15:38] Unknown:

Oh, I stole your punchline. To my wife. I stole your punchline. Sorry. Yeah.   You fucked my question. Well, now let me ask you posted it already.   Yeah. I'm I'm sorry. My my my bad.   What section of, 42 are you reading they're referring to? It's it's eighteenth nineteen eighty one. 1981.   Okay. Do you wanna continue? Because there's a eighty three and eighty six, I think, were the two that have this specific language in there, but I'll see if you get to it in '81.   Go ahead, Azana. So yeah.  

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It says,   it shall have the same right   in in in every   state and territory to make and enforce contracts   to sue   to party the parties,   give evidence   and to the full and equal benefits   of the laws and proceedings of the secure security of a person   persons and property   as is   enjoyed   by white   citizens.  

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Yep.  

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Yep. As is enjoyed by white citizens. Yep. So there is congress well, so congress need to include that. No. So congress is racist. Right? Is that a racist statement or something? Is that bordering on racism?   Congress is racist. That's title 42 in The United States code, folks. And there's at least two or three of those sections in that range, nineteen eighty one, 83, 86,   that say the same thing. The privileges and immunities   of the citizens of The United States   are the same as those of the white   citizens.   Right in the code, you racist bastards.  

K?   Yeah. Right. No. Hazanna. Now I would like to say, wait. Hold on. Citizens here? Yeah. Hazanna, hold on. I want the audience to know that you're a black man from Ethiopia,   okay, who went through this, and it has had   profound effects on your life. Has it not?  

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Oh, yeah, Roger. I haven't even told you,   the you know,   there's a lot of things I haven't told you. And when I summon the energy, one of these days, I'll open up a bit. But Okay.   The top level, yes, I'm from Ethiopia.   And in a very profound way, this has touched me. Yes.  

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And see, here's the power of this. Anybody from anywhere in the world,   if they're naturalized,   can access this.   So people like Azana,   who never had even the remotest   chance of ever being free,   is now free.   Boy, that warms my heart, Azana.  

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Love you, Roger. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Thank you.  

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So you've entered the Roger. Just got to This is Gary.  

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Yeah. Well, we love you, buddy. Yes, Gary. And, also, Azan is very shy,   and this information has kinda brought him forward where he could come on there and do something like he just did, which probably five years ago, you'd shudder shivering in the corner thinking about it.   So we appreciate and love seeing your growth too, man. And everybody, everybody grows through the people that apply it. People grow from this information. It's life changing. Like Gary's here. Hey, Gary. What you got?  

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Well, I just wanted to point out   what this gentleman has just   reiterated.   If you think back to the civil war   and you think that a bunch of white guys sitting in office in the Civil War,   part of them slave owners,   are gonna give the same status to a black man as a white man Who's illiterate? Well, then you're fooling your   You're fooling yourself. It's just that simple.   And the black man And they realize that Bingo.  

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I'm sorry, Gary. The black man you're referring to is probably illiterate. Go ahead.  

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So   wrap your mind around that so that you understand   exactly   that   they come back and give the white man   the same status they gave the black man Yep.   And then Of a slave.  

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And, you know, Todd was asking about the simplicity of it, and, really, this is just a bait and switch.   They figured out a way to put us all into the condition,   which included the children being born into the same condition,   and they just switched us over to the slave side from the free side.   That's all that's just Really? It's a bait and switch, folks. All it is.  

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Correct.   And then with the birth certificate act, they realized they could have our sweat equity labor   Mhmm. To back up their financial scheme.  

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Mhmm.   That's another interesting whole topic there. And Lisa did some research one day, and we're talking about that here on the air. And,   she came back and said, well, there were a couple of states that had birth certificates all the way back to the eighteen fifties or sixties. Isn't that right? Lisa didn't one in Illinois,   didn't they have a birth certificate in the eighteen fifties or sixties? It seems like that was one of the states. I I I think that was I think Massachusetts   was one too. Okay. But I promise you, when those states pass the birth   certificate act, they were not utilizing it as a warehouse receipt.  

Well, our these people that did this   saw with their knowledge of commercial law, you know, the Bible refers to them all over as merchants of the earth, the merchants of the earth. Well, you think the merchants of the earth might use the merchant code? Well, I think probably so. Okay? So they understand things like these these documents called a warehouse receipt   that they could have the birth certificate on top as a reference to your birth. But underneath it, it's being used in another capacity as a warehouse receipt,   which means the paper   actually takes on the quality of the good,   and the good takes on a shadowy existence,   and the paper becomes the good.  

So when it's when it's printed, they put it in a armed Bank Safe,   and then they use it and attach it to bonds.   And, for new if you're new, bonds is the root word of bondage.   So they take that birth certificate acting as you   and attach it with your future labor to the bond market, which represents bondage.   And these are all your six month, one year, five year, ten year, twenty year, thirty year bonds.   That's the debt of all these countries collectively.   And that's what runs the whole show   is that market   right there. And I'm just starting to really   get my arms totally around all this. Yes.  



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And that birth certificate   is a person.   You must understand that that it's a person. Well, yes.   Being used to your to the constitution,   you're allowed to contract   with a person.   Yep. So you contract with that birth certificate.  

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Yep.   So,   oh, well, I don't know that you do because you're just a baby at that point. But,   but, anyway, the dinner it is it's it's attached to you. Okay? Trying to get this as simple as possible. It's attached to you, and that piece of paper becomes you in in the eyes of the uniform merchant code. Okay?   And that's what runs this whole thing is this little scheme to get you born into a condition of servitude   and get that represented   with some kind of document, in this instance, the birth certificate   acting as a warehouse receipt underneath.   K?  



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And acting as a person  

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according to the Well, you're a you're a you're a person now. It represents you, I guess. But under the fourteenth amendment, or you wouldn't be in that condition.   Okay?  

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And the thing is people don't realize  

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there's two different persons there. Just like there's two different US,   United States corporation,   United States Of America. Exactly. There's two different persons.  

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And because you were born into the condition, you didn't object, your parents didn't object. This whole process has gone forward. Then they've got your consent because you didn't object.   Okay.  

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Exactly. It's a concept.   You wrap your mind  

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around concepts.   Legal concepts. They don't teach many of them in law schools anymore, like the person thing.   Very few law school students in the old US are ever gonna be exposed   in school to that concept.   That's why your lawyers and some judges don't know what it is.   And we've had   examples of that on the show, okay, from people that are dealing with those folks.   So, anyway, Todd, what what other questions have you got? Yeah. Do you have some new students on today, or I should open it up and see if anybody does have questions or comments. Considering that with new people, and I just love, the simple process of  

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one, two, three, you know, declaration, passport, and then the,   getting everybody, all the entities around you aware of your new status and how important it is that you're not just you're not changing you're not changing your status. You're just you're we shouldn't even have to do this because we know who we are. The only reason we have to even do this stuff and let them know is because we have to get we have we're basically we're we're basically holding harmless and then taking ownership that we check the boxes all of our life as US citizens. We have to we have to squash that. Yep. Otherwise, we don't we we really wouldn't have to do anything, but we actually gave it away. It was our own fault. Yep. It was right in front of us too. Yep.  

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And that's you know, I don't know, Todd. You've heard this story. When I was in Argentina, I became   affiliated, associated with a shaman in training.   He had lived in The US, married a American liberal feminist, and lived outside of Denver for six years and spoke the language very well. And he'd made a great deal effort to learn it and the culture, and he hated it. And he moved back down to Argentina, and he was in this group of the shaman oriented people outside of town.   And this guy had he'd been out there five years.   They had no electricity and no running water, and they took totally cold baths in the winter.  

All they had was wood to warm anything.   And this guy lived out there for five years. Okay?   And I'm telling you, he was hard as steel.   Okay?   And his name was Diego.   And, Diego had been studying power,   a Catholic boy,   from Buenos Aires, and he'd been studying power for twenty years from the spiritual side.   And I've been studying it for twenty years from the technical legal side, and our paths crossed.   So we we really helped each other a lot. Okay?   And, anyway, he said one of the things he said that I remember   is so true.  

He said power puts what they're doing to you right in front of you.   Right in front of you.   Everything's on the dollar bill, on the back of the dollar bill.   By the way, you know what the symbol   for feudalism is, Todd?  

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Thanks to Sketch, we know. I'm assuming it's the I'm assuming it's the, thing on the dollar bill there, the, triangle with the I in it. It's the pyramid.  

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Pyramid is the symbol of feudalism.   So your whole life, you've had it right in front of you. And they ask you the questions. Hey. Are you a slave? Do you allow us to govern you in this capacity? Right in front of you, although you don't recognize that, and you sign it.   And so his statement   is right. Now I haven't gotten to the other thing.   Merkel was trying to urge me to do it. We touched on it the other day.   And, I was kinda waiting because I if there are new folks on here, this I don't know if it's over your head. I've had people write me emails and say,   it's it's   it's, shouldn't be talked about on here because it's too confusing.  

But what I've I've come to through this shaman, actually,   and I'll I'll tell the story one of these days.   But what we're really dealing with, Todd, is the holy grail.   K?  

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Absolutely.  

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And when when you   hit that affidavit in,   what it does   is it   disintegrates   one side of the triangle   trap.   Because you see out west, you're in Massachusetts, but we got listeners out west.   And they have   livestock,   and they keep them in a four sided corral wood fence at night, don't they?  

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Todd, don't they? Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah.   In Babylon I was just gonna add to the other part, but I don't wanna I don't I don't wanna interrupt you. Sorry. I can't just interrupt. In Babylon,  

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they only use three sides.   And they didn't use fences. They use concepts.   And the third leg   of the triangle   trap here   is where they fooled you into being a citizen of The United States.  

[01:29:42] Unknown:

That That would be kind of it it Roger, that would try to be merchant law, maritime law, the law of the sea, that little corner there you're talking about. No. Those things are different.  

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Maritime laws for commercial law on the sea. The merchant law   has some aspects of it that are sea oriented. I can go into that,   but it's mainly on land stuff. Well, let me just finish this other concept, and we can get into that a little bit if you want.   So what has happened is with this presumption that you're a citizen of The United States that you agreed to,   put the third leg of that triangle   trap up there.   So when you file your affidavit,   it dissolves   that, and there's only two sides of the triangle left, and you're out. And they can't do anything about it.   Now that's that's the big, big, big picture here.  

And if that's over your head,   don't worry about it. You can get to it later. K.   But,  

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that's what it is now. Were you you said something a second ago. I got lost in my own thoughts here. So when you were talking about the triangle the the triangle, I also get into the there's a spiritual land there's the land, there's the spiritual realm, and then there's a corner there with the merchant and the law and the water, you know, that we will there's just three different corners I was talking about.  

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I was going to you know, one of the big building blocks here is this merchant law stuff.   Because most people that come here think it's admiralty law. They've been fed that.   Maritime law is another one they say. That's the one you're referring to.  

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Excuse me.  

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I've referred to in the past. We've got the book up there. I'm not sure. It's over in the book section of the website.   A book called Historical   Jurisprudence.   I don't know if you've heard me talk about that or not, Todd. Historical   Jurisprudence.   It was a book. It was published   about a hundred years ago out of John Hopkins,   and it's simply a book on jurisprudence,   the history of jurisprudence just like it says.   I don't remember the author.   The first 90 pages are all on the Babylonian   merchant code.   And if you're new, I try and teach concepts here   because concepts are easier to   convey than   meticulous   stuff.  

And so these are some of the big concepts you need to familiarize yourself with.   One is the merchant law. The other is the feudal system, and then there's   how the government works. And, you know, there's these conceptual things where,   you know, to give you the picture quicker than trying to go through it learning minutia.   And so that's what I encourage.   Anyway, one of the big concepts is the law that's being used against you. It's not admiralty. It's not maritime.   It's this law, this Babylonian   merchant code is what it is.   And for thousands of years, it was called the law merchant, still is referred to as that,   and we call it the uniform commercial code.  

Same thing. There's a statement in the UCC   that says anything not covered by this title reverts back to the law merchant. K? So that's what it is.   And, that whole 90 pages there in that historical prudent jurisprudence book   tells you about it from the Babylonians   side.   Okay?   So one of the things it says, Todd, if you open up that book and start to read, it's a easy read, and I encourage you to, you know, this is one of the things you ought to do, honestly.   You'll know more about it than 98%   of people in the country.   Is,   the very first sentence says, Babylon's great contribution to the world   was reducing   everything in the society   down to the abstract form of   contract.  

Babylon's   great contribution to the world was,   simplifying everything in the society down to the abstract form of contract. So this is where contracts came from.   And,   so in the early days there, since,   if you were to sign a contract, they would call out. There weren't penalties of perjury and things,   and they would,   they would, call out the priest to the temple.   And as you signed your signature on the contract, they would recite incantations   and maybe sprinkle   sprinkle glitter or something over your signature   to recognize and bind you to your oath.  

K?   So that had that. Who who the who do you think the,   high priest became,   Todd?   You got a WAG?  

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Wild ass guest? The high priest? Yeah. The, the Black Road Pope. I don't know. How about the bankers?   Oh,   that's  

[01:35:01] Unknown:

Also, was the priest in the early markets   that set all the prices?  

[01:35:09] Unknown:

Now in that explanation asking for interest. Right?  

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Yeah. Well, I guess. You know? But I I wanted to show you   the differential   and the fact that the Babylonian merchant code,   even in those days,   interestingly enough, recognized god   indirectly   because they had a deal   if they made you if you were had loan money loaned to you to do a trade caravan. Don't forget Babylon was the great trading center of the world.   If you were to do a trade caravan   and if it was over land   and they didn't come back,   the family had to pay back the loan.   But if it was over sea   and they didn't come back,   they didn't have to pay back the loan   because it was considered an act of God.  

So even the Babylonian   merchant code   had areas in it   that applied to sea travel and sea caravans.   Just thought that was interesting. Okay. Talks about how you can enslave yourself in contract there and how they call you Goyam and they consider you cattle and all that. It's all in there. And I would really encourage,   especially the new folks that are looking for a sound foundation here,   to take a little while. Won't take you long. It's not a difficult read. It's interesting.   The first 90 pages of the historical jurisprudence on our website. Worth reading, Todd.   K?  

So what else? Have we raised any questions from any of the newer folks on there that you'd like to explore   or comments you'd like to make?  

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Roger.  

[01:37:09] Unknown:

Well, Joan Roger. Is not new, but we welcome or comment. Yes, Joan.  

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So the   great contribution   from Babylon,   what the contract,  

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was that a good thing or would something should we be do No. I think I think I think contracts are very good things. I think but your two parties are promising to do something. You back up your promise. And,   I I think that's probably a very sound foundational   concept for humanity to be built on,   personally. Okay. Thank you. Any of these things any of these things   can be used for good or evil.   These people's advantage   is they've been screwing with the merchant law for thousands of years, and they understand all these concepts which are originally   brought in to be good. But since everything has a dialectic,   they can be weaponized and used for bad.  

That's what they're doing.   Self help remedies have a very, very practical application.   Lee, if you don't if you buy,   like, the example, I guess, is a car. You buy a car, that   contract has got what's called inter recognizance.   That means you agree when you sign the contract to abide by another   set of laws somewhere.   In this instance, being the state legislature's   determination   on how long a car dealer or a car seller has before he can go just grab the truck,   instead of you ended up out of the country and them having to go through very formal jury   trial   judgment,   registering the judgment, then they can go grab the truck.  

And by then there's no telling where you'd be. So yeah, that's got a very practical usage. Can it be used against you? Yeah. If you don't understand it and you think somebody is just coming and grabbing your property   and you don't understand this. You take,   a little bit different viewpoint, I'd say.   So any of these everything's got a dialectic.   Any of it can be used for good or evil. K? And they know how to twist it and turn it   against us.   They're very slick, these people.   Thank you, John.   Anybody else?   Y'all want me to just continue talking here?  

It's kind of a dialogue program. Really.   Good. Good. Is   that who's that right there? One, why he was it?   Why he be with us today?  

[01:39:58] Unknown:

Seems like a good morning, Roger. Lunch.  

[01:40:01] Unknown:

He might be. Now there's two male voices there. Who said Roger in there? She wasn't pretty strong audio.   I yield to the first person. This is Victor in Washington. Hey, Victor. Alright. We'll get to you second. Who's the other guy? Was that, Christian?   No. You asked if I listening. I said, yeah. I'm listening. It's what he I didn't recognize your voice. How are you doing today? I did hear your deal talked about yesterday.   Owen Stroyer was talking about the, 10%   on   the chip manufacturing.   What is probably   happening in Trump evidently says he's going to do more of   that, directing them to invest in other companies   is to try and get some kind of rolling   in. So the country doesn't go bankrupt. Don't   report your Where where where's the conversation coming from? I mean,  

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cafeteria It's nice compared to a lot of one size There's Jimmy that's on on,  

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unmuted and Joe Whining, I think, or something.  

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One of you guys is talking with the mic open. If you'd close it, be so kind. We're picking up your conversation.   So, anyway, Wahi, I did hear it talk about yesterday.   And,   we'll follow the developments, but there evidently is gonna be more. And it's for profit because quite frankly, our economy   is, pretty close to being on the rocks. K?   So, Wahib, I just wanted to know. I recognize your I I   questions from yesterday, and I'm responding.  

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Yes, sir.  

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Okay.   So what else? You know what we thought we'd do, Wahid?   Paul and I were talking. Yes. We thought we'd get Paul to get a good   dog bark recording.   And every when you come on and you interrupt, we're gonna start playing that pit bull to get after you. We thought that might be good. What do you think? Okay.  

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Alright then. But no. You know, it takes me when you when you ask me a question, it takes me a while to get the phone my phone out of my pocket and then get start pressing black ones. Yeah. I understand. Okay. Well, no no harm done. No bad. No foul. K?  

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But I just wanted to let you know that I I recognize you're   bringing this up yesterday several times,   and I did hear Owen Shroyer talking about it. And I wanted to let you know, as I told you, if it came up, we'd get back with you. And it did, and I'm getting back with you.   Okay?   So it's growing. Yeah. There's other other people that are aware of that. And it is a first step to fascism,   which are fascism lite, maybe if you wanna call it.   And, I but I can understand the motives. Let's just hope it were. I think it probably will work. Let's hope so.   Okay. Let's see who else. Yeah. Greg Manarino has some other inch go ahead. I'm sorry to cut things out. No. It was on this topic. Go ahead. Greg Mariner   whatever his name is, however you say it, had some interesting comments on this.  

Boy, Wahib is pretty hard to deal with. Okay. Who is the other   I know. Who is the other person? Yeah. Greg Mannarino. Greg Mannarino.   Greg Mannarino. Well, you said he had some interesting things to say about it. What did he have to say?   Wow.   Okay. Well, that's okay, Wahib. Sorry I asked.  

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No. No. I have customer I had a customer come I had a customer come through the front door just as you was asking me. Oh, okay. Greg Mannarino was the one that,   Greg Mannarino   was the one that was   speaking about the,   the   the the fed loaning money to buy 10% of intel.   Is it intel? Or Yeah. No. It wasn't intel. No. It wasn't intel. Bennett, Trump saying that there's gonna be many more of these purchases   into the market.   Greg Mannarino is the one that was  

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I'm I'm sorry. We're having communication problems here, Wahid. Well, that's,   well, that's basically what Owen said, not in that specific thing. But, Greg Maranine Mariano   Maranineo,   however you say his Italian name, is a very good source. K? So straight up, knows the markets,   and he's   kinda like EF Hutton. When he speaks, you might ought to listen.   So, anyway, I haven't seen him or any of his stuff in a long time.   Okay. So who else? Who else has got something this morning as we tail towards the end of the show? Todd, the one there's one big, area that I haven't gone over with you and your pups yet, your your folks,   is,   the whole administrative   state,   where it came from, how it built, how it operates, what the history of it is,   etcetera, etcetera. We'll do that one day. Okay?  



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Well, we're gonna be together six days a week, so we'll we'll get it done. Alright. When it comes up, it's just another one of these big areas that  

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people say, well, can't what what can you tell me about the administrative   state?   Well, it's a bunch of these agencies, and they can be real badasses.   We're gonna go into it a little more depth than that. Okay?   Yes. Paul, you were trying to say something?  

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No. I   just cleared my throat.  

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Oh, I see. Okay.  

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Anybody else wanna clear their throat? No. No. Hey, Roger. When Roger or no. Not when when Waheed was trying to come up with what he was trying to say, I just said, I give up.   Okay.  

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Wahib is, Wahib, you're a very interesting character. We have some real characters around here. You're certainly   one of them. Who, had the Hey Roger there?   Hey Roger, Victor in Washington. Good morning. That's right. Victor, I forgot about you, man. I'm   sorry. You slipped my mind. How you how you doing?  

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What part of that state are busy working on  

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What part of the state are you in?  

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South Of Seattle, Federal Way, Washington.  

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Okay.   Well, alright.  

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Anyway,   the the young man from South Carolina,   Sean O'Connell or Connolly? Yeah. Sean Connolly.  

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Okay.  

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Shane, Sean talking about is I get them mixed up. Go ahead. Yeah. Sean.   So he's   in   O'Connell County, South Carolina,  

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something like that. Yeah. I guess so. I don't know. I thought it was an Indian issue, but   whatever.  

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Yeah. There's this there's a big state park there,   O'Connell or whatever it is.   But I I looked up the definition of person   Yes. And I was wondering   which   source you got that from. Well, I don't know  

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where well, I got it from John w Benson. Where he got it, there's no telling.   But he all he did found study.   Well, he's all he did was study the old law books. So he knew this stuff that they don't even teach in law school. What's the definition you got in front of you? If it's blacks, it might say something like this term has special meaning because it applies to the fourteenth amendment or something.  

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Well, I looked at black,   six and first edition.   It's basically the same thing that you're saying,   an entity to whom the law   prescribes rights and duties, and that's where you came up with your formula, r plus e Well, this is  

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John's stuff, but yes.  

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Yeah. I just wanted to mention that. And,   basically, Sean's   stance was   he just wants to be left alone   and deal with the officials out of love, not creating hassles and stuff and being responsible.   You know,   He he said that he wouldn't do anything differently, basically.  

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Well, Victor, have you ever heard this? It's not your attitude, but your aptitude that determines your altitude.   It's not your aptitude. It's your attitude that determines your altitude, and that's a perfect example of what you just said.   You gave us. Yeah.  

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Cool. That's all I had for now. I'm just Alright. I wonder how thought about putting the  

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Putting what?   Like the gentleman called in yesterday saying that this guy, John, he recommends putting the state fusion center on your notice to the attorney general also. I just Not a bad idea. Wonder what you thought about that. I don't I I you know, there's not enough of these critical offices that could pass their deaths, but I just never thought about it before. That's nothing wrong with that at all. What about the head  

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I was I was thinking this morning. What about the heads of the cog of the your possibly, public in or the House of   Representatives  

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and the Senate of your state also if that's necessary? Oh, well, I don't know that it is, but it might not be a bad idea. Again,   I don't know if these people can see enough of these pieces of paper across their desk.  

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K. I agree. Now, Victor, I'm,  

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Victor, how long have you been with us? Because usually, you were you're just sending in your paperwork and some of your stuff, I think. Right? How long you've been on the program? Not the show, but on our   our path here.  

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I sent my affidavit to the SOS of the US last July   2024.  

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Okay. So you've been around about a year a little over. Okay.  

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But it was,  

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let me see. You were still on RBN when I discovered you by the grace of god. That was a long time ago. I've been there for you. Since I remember one Sunday night, I had to compete   against the Super Bowl.   Then it the Philadelphia Eagles won, and it wasn't the last year. It was the time before that about four years ago. So it's been a while since I've been over there.   It was nice of Tom to ask me to fill that spot. I did it for a while.   I don't like the interruptions,   but it was a good platform, and I understood it. And when   we when I left, it was fine with me. I was I wanted to have a day off anyway, and I was working two shows on Sunday.  

So,   it was a blessing.  

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And I believe the first interview I listened to was the Sarah Westall when where she was interrupting you all the time.  

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Oh, that is such a,   that's such an irony to me.  

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I really it's a learning process.  

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I guess. I guess. Do you remember  

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do you remember the last time that you were on RBN or not?  

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I think the last time I was on RBN was,   well, it was right around when Ron Avery and I did,   pro that that crap. So a couple years ago, not specifically   the last show, I remember one Sunday, I got a message said your show's been canceled.   I went, well, alright. So what?   You know, I've been kicked off by The written radio networks and stations before, so no big deal.   Anyway,   yeah. And I I Tom has got   Tom Dee, who comes on here, maybe listening now,   he oversees that whole shooting match, and,   he's got a he's got a   big   big, assignment   on his hands. I'll put it that way.  



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So we'll see. Well, I've been trying to wake people up for different things because I discovered Alex Jones in 02/2006,   like I told you. Yes. And it's a it's a it's a process trying to   learn who is even   remotely   receptive to the information.  

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And who's and who's honest that's given it? That's the other   variable.   I had a situation where I we've got a mall, a nice mall here and, real real modern, real nice, very well designed, and they got some neat shops in there. And there's a chocolate shop that's pretty upscale.   And, I was having a cup with their mochaccino,   and,   the tables were mostly taken outside. They you sit out in the mall.   And,   as young couple came up and said, can we sit down? I said, sure. So she was from Italy, and he was Ecuadorian.   Very charming. They both spoke English.  

And,   anyway, we got into politics   a bit, and and they said, well, we don't we don't know who to listen to.   And I bird dogged them on Infowars.   So I hope they're still listening. I said, bear with them a little bit because US centric, of course, but you'll get   that's the most honest feed I know of on a regular basis. You know, Alex is wanting to go twenty four hours here pretty soon.   That's why he's acquiring some of these extra hosts and stuff.   So Infowars may be twenty four hours   pretty soon. God bless.   You know, Alex, I get I have a love hate relationship with him. I get real he gets these great fabulous guests on, like Max Boot and these Russians   that nobody they won't appear on any other radio station for an interview. And he gets them on there, whoever these experts are, and then they start saying something important and he steps on it, and you can't hear them. And I just get so pissed off at him sometimes.  

But maybe he's getting better a little bit.   I like he's a great judge of talent.   He's a very, very good judge of talent to pick up, Harrison   and Owen Stroyer, and he's getting more and more.   So, anyway, god bless Alex.   I will tell you.   I think I'm going to,   I know I'm going to, at some point, sign up as an affiliate with them   and,   ask y'all if you could help defer the cost on my mouth stuff   by simply buying products through Alex. If you're already buying InfoWars products and listen to them, you'd all you have to do is I'll get an a link, and it'll just give me credit on that.   And,   and they've got excellent, excellent products, and you have to tip your hat to Alex.  

He's kept this whole damn network growing and going,   especially the last few years when they've been all over his ass   on nothing but selling quality supplements.   And they can't mess with that. They can't cut his advertisers off.   And that is,   I gotta chip my hat to Alex. I know the broadcast industry. I've been in and around it most of my adult life,   and what he has done   is very   difficult to achieve. And I personally   cannot even fathom   going through the crap that these people have put him through   over the last couple of years.   You know, a a higher fine than the damn gross domestic   product of most countries?  

That's just ridiculous.   So, anyway, I'm gonna do that. I'll announce it. We'll talk more about it, but,   that would help me. It doesn't take any I'm not asking you to give me money. I'm just saying if you're already buying from Alex,   you just change the links.   And if you haven't ever listened to it and know about the excellent quality products he's got over there,   go go check it out. They've got some wonderful products that just have   phenomenal   reactions and results with people.   So God bless them. It's a three three sided win, and I'd like to participate. So I will here shortly.   So, anyway, Victor, what else? You got any other comments being new and and whatnot relatively?  



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Well, I was curious about you have you watched these   first amendment auditors that go to post offices and stand outside of buildings and stuff, public property?   I have not. Challenge the police to do anything about it?  

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I have not.  

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Not heard either. Okay. Well, I've I've watched a lot of that. Years ago, I watched a lot of that.   So my question was,   those those,   auditors out there who are US citizens, do they truly have their first amendment right or not? Roger, can I please take this one?  

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Yes. Go ahead because I don't know what you're talking about with first amendment on. Todd, is that you? All over this. I appreciate it. I honor them.  

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99%   of the Internet now, once you know what you know is, being free, I know exactly what you're talking about. These guys are going in. They're being honorable. They're trying to stir it up. They're able to, redirect their grievances with the government. They're able to record them. They're looking for reactions. Some of them are rude. I don't love the other ones I really like. But the question the answer to your question is this.   They   they really, really, truly do think they have their rights,   but they really don't because the it's a big confusion with the with the police and the people. They get to court, though, and 99% of the time, they usually lose. They might win in some higher court that deals in common law because they did break one of their rights. But to answer your question,   they have no rights except for residency if they are a US citizen, and they don't even know it.  



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Well, neither does hardly anybody else, Todd. That's why I'm so grateful when you all stop by.  

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Did that answer did that was that exactly what you were talking about, brother?  

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It's exactly as talk.   It's exactly as what I was talking about. And my other question is, how do you get through to these people to even get past the firewalls of exposing them to this information?   Like,   for example, Alex Jones trying to get a hold of him   or Chase Geyser that we just emailed recently.   Just any tips on that? Because I'm I've been trying to spread information for years,   and just just information's good. That's all I say.  

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I you've gotta have them come to you. You're not gonna force it on them   more than likely.   So the whole trick is,   as I say, it's easier to pull a rope than to push a rope. And that's what you gotta do, and you gotta realize that we're a small percentage of peep populace.   And some of those people you're trying to get to,   they're beyond you being able to get to them.  

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Roger.  

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Larry, first time we've heard from you today. Hey, man.  

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Yeah. I've been listening.   I just wanna add to what,   what Todd said.   US citizens   have limited access to the constitution.   Yeah. That's why they could still purchase a handgun.   Yep.  

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That's right. And there's a bunch of other ones. If you wanna find out benefits.   If you wanna find out the specific exemptions, Devin did a great job. It's in that handbook,   and he goes over all of them, which amendments apply, which ones of the bill of rights don't, etcetera.   So that is a, very important document there, Devin.   There's our whistler. You know what that means is that we're finished for the Tuesday edition here.  

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And Roger, can I just add one more thing? Well, you better do it quick, Todd, please. Real quick. So to answer your guys' question, I'm thinking about doing con I'm a content creator. I'm gonna do a TikTok and a and a YouTube where I'm really politely showing what they're doing, but then letting them know with all the logs and everything that they have no rights. I'm gonna do it very softly and calmly, but they're all gonna be alerted to it. So that's the Well, I can tell you the some of the somewhat  

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similar reactions   is,   Scott,   from here, got on Facebook, and there was an expatriation   group.   And he put on there that you could go through this free and not do the expatriation,   and they blocked him from the group.   So there's there's your receptivity there, Todd.   Okay. We're finished with today's show, and, we will, however, on the good side, be back tomorrow, good lord willing, and the Creek Indians don't rise.   And, we'll go over your questions or comments or maybe something like the description   of the deep state, how it's set up, where it came from, how it operates, and what and what, and they can't do.   So, that'll be one of these days. Anyway, glad you hung with us. Thanks. We'll see you soon or tomorrow.  

There you go.   So I think we're finished. Now   now the people with question I told you they'd come forward. Now we're off the air.   Yes.  

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I'm in.  

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Hold on, Tom. We got females here. Yes, ma'am?  

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Rogers.  

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Well, there's two or three of you. Now that was Julie. Who was the first gal that came in?  

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It's Annie.  

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Well, miss Annie. How are you?  

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Hi, Roger.  

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Hi, Annie. How are you? Can you hear me? Yes. Loud and clear.  

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I got some info I'm doing good. I'm getting ready to school a local IR the, citizenship.   School a local what? They honored my they honored my status last year, but they didn't this year, and they sent me a levy letter.  

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Oh, the IRS?  

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And   yeah.  

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And so I had sent them back, you know, the information I've Is this a a like, what we call a ninety day letter saying that you've got ninety days to either go to apply to tax court or do something else. Is that what they sent you?  

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Well,   well, they sent me well, I I was on the phone for hours last week,   but, they gave me, like, a nine month extension.   Nobody understood what I was talking about.   You have to wait for a couple hours sometimes just to talk to somebody, and then they put you through to somebody else and somebody else. So, they said probably I should go down to the IRS office and,  

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you know, talk to them. Ah, now how That's been getting ready to go to Have they been sending you process all along, or this just come out of nowhere? Well, they  

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no. They sent me something in May after I sent my, $10.40 NRN.   And, they sent me something in May saying I owe, you know, $10,000   or something like that, which, I was only asking for,   like, $5,000   back, something like that. And so I sent them my citizenship   evidence.   I sent a a letter actually to Doge and a letter to the treasury   and,   Doge and, Pam Bondi.   And,   but   they never replied back to that. So I was waiting, and then I finally get this thing, like like, they might the like, they're saying they didn't get my former what I sent in in May.   So,   anyhow, I have to go speak with somebody in an office right now. What I want you to do is reach out to Mark  

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and let him know about this Uh-huh.   And and and Uh-huh. And and and coordinate it with him, if you would. But, look, keep us in the loop on Did I cancel this appointment?   No. No. Go talk to him. Just don't don't admit anything. You know, you're grounds.   And, but drop Mark an email and tell him, I got this IRS situation. You don't have to describe it, I don't think, in-depth, but let him know Yeah. And reach out to him and tell him this is going on. Okay?   Okay. I'll do that. May I? Now, Ari, may I just a second? Hold on. Okay.   I wanted you to know, Annie, that, supposedly,   our information was presented to, general Flynn a couple of weekends ago   by Anne Vanderson.  

I don't haven't been able to talk with her since. I don't know if she did that, if he was receptive,   if she was able to convey it because she only spent   two hours on the phone with me. It's the only time we've had together.   But we'll see. I hope that's advancing. Okay? And I know you were the one that fed him the information in Miami, and he's, oh, we already know about that. Well, you don't. Yeah. Because because of Anne. Yes. Because hopefully   Anne. Well, hopefully, she's rectified that. She's running on what she's been told too. She'd been given   Patriot crap information.  

So hopefully, I'll hear from her. I I I really wanna talk to her again. So, anyway, well, good to hear from you, Annie. Right? Straw man,   an email. Let him know. Give him a brief description.   But let's involve him in the loop here. Okay?   Okay. Alright. Good. Good to hear you. I  

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I think I'm grounded enough to, you know, give all the information.  

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Yeah.   I mean, should I talk about jurisdiction? Like, I got out of the jurisdiction. This guy, whoever you're talking to probably ain't gonna know much of what you're talking about if you get into legal stuff is my experience with IRS people. But go down there. Be cautious.   Don't give them any big bones and see what they're saying.  

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Why do you have Well, she did say something about it. It might be a lawyer.  

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I disagree.   You should never  

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do any verbal communication with them. It should all be Okay. Well, Sherry work, Sherry will work for them. So maybe that's a big deal. Tell them you've had something come up and you'd like to reschedule   and get ahold of Mark and get your foundation set. That's not a bad idea, Sherry.  

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I have a question for Annie, though.   The communication   you received from them, is it a notice of levy, or is it a CP letter?  

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A c d a c d A CP?  

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Yeah. Right. Okay. Okay. That means it's computer generated.   Mhmm.  

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Okay. I think they're just screwing with you, Annie. But, like, get a hold of of of Mark and see what goes forward. That's why I asked you if it was a ninety day letter. Is it a threat of levy, or are they just shaking you down, or what? When did you file your affidavit initially? I think they sent the ninety day letter,  

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after   they   didn't understand my ten forty n r. No. No. They can't just send  

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well, they can't just send you that ninety day letter. There's gotta be process up to that too.   Okay. Because it was already received by that. Some of these some of these letters before. They just can't   jump in there.   When did you file your affidavit originally? It was a couple of years ago. Right?  

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Yeah. '22. And I sent the IRS two,   one certified and one just before,   I filed my tax my October n r, in 2023,   which they actually gave me all the money back that that year. And then when I do 2024, then they're balking at it.  

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Okay. So just write that briefly to to Mark, and and let's get him involved in this. Okay?   Alright. Let's see. Cancel the appointment. Just hold on, everybody. Hold on.   Okay. If you'll just do that, Annie, we can go from there as it develops. They're not fast.   You might   Yeah. Let's just get Mark involved, and let's see what we can come up with for you. Okay?  

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Okay. So mind  

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telling us what,   notice number it is? CP5  

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It's CD5 something.  

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Do you have it, where you can available?  

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And did it come certified? Just curious.  

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Yes. It came certified.  

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Okay.   Those, you definitely have to answer.   Yeah. And I would not do it verbally.  

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I would Okay. What did she get ahold of Mark the last draft of response, please?  

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K? Uh-huh. Yes.   Roger.  

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She gave me a nine month extension on it or something like that. So,   the last lady and suggested I talk to the office.   So  

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Okay.   Well, you'll you'll talk to them. Do it through the written   you'll do it through the written word, I think. But let's just still not take another step until you write Mark, and let's get him in on this process. Okay?  

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Okay.   Thanks. What's the notice number, please? I'm I'm looking for it. I got  

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Okay. Well, while you're looking for it Larry, what do you got?  

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Yeah. I disagree with Sherry's disagreement.   I believe you should call the IRS. There's nothing wrong with talking to these agents. Julie had a good experience. She told told all the students about that the other day. She was able to clear up a lot of confusion and get what she wanted.   These agents are customer service agents,   and they're there to, provide you with a good customer service experience. Just be polite and kind. These are just regular people working a job. They don't know this information,   and you can get a lot accomplished,   if you just,   work with them and be polite and kind. I don't think so. I believe Well I believe I believe Annie's problem may be   she filled out the form wrong, and so she should call and confirm that because that's what I did in the past. That's how I got confirmation, and I had to end up amending   my ten forty n r. So  

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she could find that out by a simple phone call. Okay. We'll do that. They did they did think there's any danger there of you stepping into anything that's gonna obligate you. You're just asking questions and trying to find out where the confusion is. Okay?  

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They did say that I was,   that I am a non,  

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resident. And on the IRS papers, they did Oh, and then you def you re if they confirm that, then you need to reach out to them and see or maybe even go down and talk to them. I I understand what Sherry's saying, but I don't think you're on that footing here. If they've already admitted that they've got you, they've got you in your records as a nonresident alien,   I think you're probably on pretty safe ground. K?  

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K. C p May I add some C p 50 four.   Okay. Just one thing. If you're gonna speak to them in person,   memorialize   it in a follow-up letter.  

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I was thinking, can I record it? But, Well, yeah, you can record it.  

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Just memorialize  

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it in a follow-up letter so it's written into the record. Is, California one party or two party state on recording? Do you know, Annie?  

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I think you have to ask permission.  

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Well, just say I'd like to record this conversation. Put your cell phone on the table. K?  

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Yeah. Okay. Alright.  

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And then you could do follow-up also on these are the things we discussed, etcetera, etcetera. Wait. See how it goes. It may just be some little snafu,   mistake somewhere. Okay? Thanks.  

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Alright. Yeah.  

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I'll have sent her a message on Telegram?  

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Okay. Thanks.  

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Okay. Yes, Julie.  

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Okay.   You received your CP five zero four notice because we haven't received payment of your unpaid balance.   This notice is your notice of intent to levy   internal revenue code section sixty six thirty one d. If you don't pay the amount due immediately,   the IRS can levy your income and bank accounts as well as feed your property   or your right to property including your state income  

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unpaid amount you owe. Okay. There's some misconception there and some miscommunication   because they already admitted   that you're a nonresident alien, and you did it a couple years ago.   It ought to be straightened, Manny. It ought to be it sounds like just some snafu somewhere, it means.  

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Yeah. And I I had did send them you know, when they sent the first notice that I owed that money, and I had to pay within ninety days or whatever, I,   you know, obviously sent them a rebuttal   letter. And, like I said, I,   I put in my affidavit and all that, and I actually sent copies to   Doge and,   Pam Bondi  

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and that so so that they know what's going on. Okay. Well, like I said, the first thing that this point Just just just to wait a second, Sherry, please.   Sorry. First thing at this point Mhmm. Is to get a email off to Mark, and let's bring him into this   and get his input. Okay?   Okay. Sounds good. But if you've got an appointment already tomorrow,   you may go down there. You might can just call him and not leave. I I don't know what the hell to tell you here. Okay? But it sounds like there's a snafu   on their side   somewhere in this process because you shouldn't owe them any bunnies.  

Yeah. I should They probably owe you monies, if the truth be no. Okay.   Who's talking? They do. Who's talking in the background, please?   Okay.   Several people are trying to say something here.   Did everybody get their piece in?   No. I didn't. Okay. Sorry. Sherry, go ahead. Go now.  

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So when you got that first letter   Mhmm. And they gave you ninety days to cure, are you already outside that ninety days?  

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Yeah. But I sent them a rebuttal thing saying I didn't need to pay because of this. You know, I I sent the affidavit in and everything. I noticed them, and I did get you know, it was honored the year before when I got all the money back.   And,   so,  

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but it seems like they they just ignored that letter or they never got it. I don't know. Well, there's a chance that either one the sec the second of that could apply. They're they're not an organized entity. You know? Mhmm.  

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I agree.  

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So, anyway, they pass the decline. Thing to do So just be mail them send an email to Mark. Please do it this afternoon.   Got an IRS saying Roger asked me to send you this. Here's a brief description of what's happened, and we want you involved in as we go forward. Just tell him that. Okay?  

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Okay.  

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Alright. And may I just be aware that they're tricksters,   and when they say verbally over the phone, they've given you a nine month extension,   do not believe them.   Yeah. I'd say ask for things in next thing  

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Say ask for things in writing. Go ahead, Sherry.  

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I was just gonna say that the next   thing will be a notice of levy,   and they will hit your bank account   with a notice.   And you'll get a copy   after your bank account has been seized.   But strip over the notice of levy,   and,   it'll start I can't remember if it's a jurisdiction or authority,   but it starts with subparagraph b.  

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Yeah. It's only applies to government employees.  

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A. Yeah.   Correct. Correct. They leave off  

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go ahead, Roger. Well, this only applies to government employees. They left that off the back of the lane, the levy.  

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Both. Leans and levies. Correct.  

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Okay.  

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Alright. Annie, shoot that off to I just want her to be aware of that. I yield. Okay. I'll give him a message to be looking for it.   And,   you you may wanna come back Saturday. He he he's usually here on Wednesdays, maybe here tomorrow,   and Saturdays, okay, if he can. Do you Okay. He's taking care of his elderly parents, and they're not in good shape. And he's got the whole ball of wax on him. So   that that's complicated   all these issues a bit. Okay?   Alright. Okay. Yeah. Good to hear from you. Okay, Annie. I think we'll get that straightened out. Sounds like you're in pretty clear territory to me. It's a screw up on there. Oh, yeah. Okay?  

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Except for Annie. Whatever money you have in your account, keep it to a minimum Yeah. Because they can only take what's there. Yeah. I agree with that. I agree with that.  

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So, so thank you. Good to hear from you. I'm sorry you're in this.   Doesn't happen very often. Thank you. You're welcome.   Yeah. Alright. I'll talk to you later. Just your luck, Annie. You lucky girl.   Thanks.   Well, it won't kill you. I guarantee you it'll make you stronger,   and it'll it'll it should get straightened out because they're not on on, good ground.   K? So,   they're rare to have IRS problems like this. Oh, so who else has got something? Well, there's somebody at Samuel, I think.  

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Yeah, Roger. I just wanted to mention something regarding your oral surgery.   One for pain, I've had really good luck because it keeps down inflammation is seropeptates.   And, the other thing   is supposed to cut the healing in half. It it basically supports your RNA and your DNA and your tummy. It's called nucleotides.   And that the only place you can really get those though are probably Quantum Nutrition Labs in Austin, Texas.  

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Well, I'm I'm not gonna get them because I wouldn't be able to get it for at least another month.   K? And I'm sure the surgery will happen before then. So I'll just have to do the best I can.  

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He recommends that if you can, you know, like, we don't always get that choice, but that if you know you got a surgery scheduled that you start taking them,   two weeks to three weeks before the surgery Yeah. To have a good dose of it in there, you know, in your system to help the heal. He says this cuts the healing time in in fifty percent.  

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So That'd be great if I could get my hands on them, but,   I don't think I can in time. So   just one of the disadvantages of living down here. You know? You have to deal with shit like this. The other is we don't have any pain kills down here, which I'd love to have some of. Anyway, thank you, Cindy. Did you got a source of serrapeptase  

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down there. I I like the source natural brand because I know it's a quality one, but, you know  

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Serrapeptase.   Peptase. Okay. Well, I'll Yeah. Maybe ask my doctor. Sero like the Sierra Mountains and then peptase.   Okay.   Thank you. Roger.   Yes, Joan?  

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Do you do you have a health food store there in your little area where you go?  

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Well, there there's a little vitamin   store, a couple of them that I know about. Yeah.  

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Maybe they have some serrapeptase.   Is it run by a,   American  

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person? Of course not.  

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Okay.  

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Okay.  

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Alright. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else got something for me? Comment for me for us. Yes? Yep.  

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Two things. Before the hour was over,   German was talking about,   if,   fourteenth amendment citizens have   the actual right that we're told we have. And I think the reason why they offer to   extend that is   simply for the fact to to hide the fraud.   If they if they didn't give us the right,   we probably have a bigger uproar than what we have right now.   And then   about the   IRS and   meaning to respond to them,   there's nothing that says you can't record the phone call and then detail it in a letter. You don't have to tell them to record it,   and you can do it anytime to anybody.  

And you tell you're recording in an affidavit, and it's it is word.  

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Okay. Who is who is this? Who am I speaking with? This is the great Carl in Utah.   Oh, hey, Carl. Okay. What's your what's your first name?   Pardon me? Was that a question or was garbled? First name?  

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Carl,  

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c o n r. Carl, I have to reach out. If you could reach out to me, I I'll give you my email address. You're right on the money on everything. I really appreciate you. Thank you.  

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Yeah. No problem.  

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Okay. Hi. This is Chris from California. Hey, Chris.   How you doing?  

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Oh, I'm hanging in there.  

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Is the surgery you're talking about on your teeth?  

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Yes.  

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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The the ones that are left.   Well, actually, it's surgery's in   where they're   I'm gonna have to have a couple pull too. So, anyway, it's pretty, gonna be pretty major surgery, Chris.  

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Jim, little just a little bit ago, you mentioned about Devon's handbook. Is that the one about,   nationals?  

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Yes. National handbook for national citizenship, handbook for nationals. It's on the website.   He did a great job on that.   They call it the incorporation   doctrine, I believe.   The incorporation doctrine on which of the elements of the constitution   were   set aside for fourteenth amendment citizens.   Right. Yeah. I'm gonna give that a read. I haven't read that yet. That's very good. You did a real good job on that.   Okay? I'll find that on the website then. Yes. You will. Thank you. Citizen's Handbook for Nationals.   Okay. Anybody else got something?  



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For Harris for n Street   for moving forward with your oral surgery.  

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Well, thank you. It'll I would imagine it might be sometime next week, but I don't know yet. I'll find out tomorrow.   I'm not looking forward to it. I promise you that. Yes, sir?  

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It's me, Julie here. Yes. Julie.   Yeah. I wanted to just say one thing else that's,   like, along the lines of free speech when you with respect to the constitution.   On also on that Anne Vandersteel   show,   there was a guy from Facebook by the name of Jason f y k. I don't know how to pronounce that last name, so I won't do it on the show. But, anyway, he had over 35,000,000,   subscribers and followers on,   on his Facebook   page. And what he has done now is he has sued The United States.   The law blocked him from access to the courts. And what happened was when Trump was originally running for president,   he exposed the,   Podesta emails,   and he became part of the Russia bot network that Facebook targeted. And it's the Russia bot network that never existed, and it was all made up where Hillary Clinton approved the Russian narrative to detract from her email scandals.  

So he was taken down because he was part of the or organic groups on Facebook trying to promote Trump into office, and he was also pushing the Podesta email   narrative. So somebody took him down as a part of the Russian collusion coup.   So he basically   went through all of these courts and sued all of these courts. And,   they   were using that,   section two thirty c one,   that has been controversial   about the corporations  

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and stuff. It's about it's about platforms too. That that one is about platforms on the Internet and they're publishing or not publishers   or something. Right?  

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Section two thirty. And it's something about their their they have immunity. They have immunity under section two thirty. It's a real smart law. It's totally unconstitutional,   but the first judge that he went up to had millions in tech stocks and didn't take it. And then in another constitutional   challenge, he had Rudy Contreras,   And then he had another judge that was an Obama appointment, and he's been stonewalled from ever getting into court granting granted absolutely no access into court. So   his Fifth Amendment due process has been denied.   And so he's suing the government for what they've done to him in court. And he's bringing a constitutional   challenge against The United States for denial of due process. And he's challenging the application   of two sixty or two thirty c one as an immunity from suit.  

And, he said that when he wins, he this will end all censorship because what he's doing   is he's going to use Donald Trump's May 2020 executive order as the legal basis, and he's involving   the Department of Injustice.   And he's basically telling them that if you wanna argue against me, then the executive order that Donald Trump wrote is either wrong   or your boss's   executive order is correct, and I'm correct, and you need to concede that section two thirty is unconstitutional   as applied.   And then the court faces no choice because right now,   the court is not the arbitrator   anymore.  

And the Supreme Court is only able to watch this.   So they have to issue injunctive leave relief, and the federal government can no longer apply the laws of immunity from suit. So he's basically saying that he just   circumvented   the Supreme Court of the United States, and he's enjoined all the courts in California.   And they cannot apply apply that section two thirty anymore.   And he's been held a move against Facebook, and it will end these tech tech companies from lawsuits against free speech and from deleting accounts based on free speech. They'll have to they'll basically have to   comply with what they're doing, where they're censoring people and removing people's posts and,  

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removing people's livelihoods on these channels. Well, I thought it was pretty good that, the x,   they went in at the at the behest of of the guy, the child diddler that got out of The States back to Israel. His department   oversees all that, and they went into x and scrubbed out a bunch of that information.   X restored it   and apologized,   I think, but they said it was taken down for   by government request. They just didn't say which government. But x overturned that and put it back up, I think, Julie.   So I don't know. That's very complex. We'll we'll see how it works out. Okay? Oh, I don't know where that noise is. What is the noise? Is that a cat, a dog, a parrot? What is that? It's my  

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dog. It's my it's my sweet little service dog.   It's my sweet little 14 year old service dog. Okay. Well It's just adorable Roger, but he has a collapsed trachea and two leaking mitral valve and an enlarged ventricle. He coughs, But Well, I'm sorry. Still surviving. Well, I just couldn't speak of who it was. Okay. We'll mute the coughing dog. That's okay.  

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Go give go give Rover a treat. And,   is there anybody else that's got something for me? Or I'm gonna go start barking like that dog in a second.   Alright.  

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Paul Roger. Start. How are you? Hey. Before you go and get something to eat because your stomach's growling. I know.   I wanted to re I wanted to,   this has been hard for me to ask, because I know you're so busy. But,   if you could have one of your people or I wanna be able to communicate with you if possible at some point, if you want my email or I can have you pick it up. Somebody give me yours and all of your veterans too. I need everybody to get together to share with what knowledge they have to bring it together into one so everybody can learn from each other. This is the only way it's gonna work, I think. Well, it's kinda what the show's for. You know? Yeah.  

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But, yeah, I don't have any problems. Just send me an email, Todd. It's, rate it's radio ranch, no space, radio ranch   at mail, m not e Gmail,   mail, m a I l dot com. And just put Todd here in the subject line, and we can kick that off. Okay?  

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Thanks, brother.  

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Yeah, man.   Alright. Anybody else for the Raj?  

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We'll have your people reach out to our people.  

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Yeah. Right. I have Paul I'll have Paul step in and facilitate it.  

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Yeah.   Okay.  

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Thank you, mister Paul. Thank you.   And,   I get I'll see y'all tomorrow. Mark may be here, may not hope so. But,   anyway,   always look forward to the time we get to spend together. I'd go absolutely   stir crazy if I didn't have you guys. K?   And it's probably vice versa   vice versa too. It's a it's a double blessing,   and it's reciprocal,   their sketch.   So,   thank you very much, and I'll see you tomorrow.   Paul, because, Paul, see if you can get that book covers book sent to you so we can get that book thing going if you would. It's in the works.   Good man. Thank you.  

So I'll see y'all tomorrow if, not sooner and probably not.   So thank you. Love all of you. Thanks for your well wishes,   and I'll see you tomorrow. Bye. See you tomorrow, Raj.  

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Paul, I want to thank you for Paul, I want to thank you because you do an amazing show here. I just I don't think you got enough props that you you run this whole thing. So I really wanted to tell you that I appreciate everything you do for all this time. I know all the back work you're doing too with all the categorizing. I mean, people even couldn't understand. I probably don't even know half of what you're doing. So thank you.  

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Well, thank you.  

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Maybe Larry could chime in.   I can't imagine that FedEx or some  

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group like that can't get in back at John Rogers.  

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Hey, Samuel.   Yeah. And you your neopeptide?   What? Nucleotides.   Oh, who how you say it?  

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N u, I think,   c   l   e   nucleotides.   Oh, maybe   a t I d e s.   It's like the nucleiatic   acid of your DNA or RNA.   That's   what it's building. It's building the building blocks to build cells,   and   it's nucleotides. And there's the first and only seller for longest time was Quantum Nutrition Labs, and it's   made with fermented products that also are really good for the gut health. So at the same time, it's boosting your immune system   so that if you're gonna have any infection problems or whatever, you're all ready   and geared up to be able to fight that battle when you're gonna do a surgery.  

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Okay. So it's good for immunity and to fight infection?  

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No. It also builds the RNA and DNA so that you heal faster.  

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Okay.  

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Good. Thank you. It does all of those things in one, which is   pretty unique.   And Marshall   on fermented products to do a lot of different things. So a lot of the science that he had behind his product line   has these fermented products in it, and that's   very much so the case for the nucleotides.   But it I would think somebody like Larry should be able to check into the and and know whether we can get him a package down there or not.   I I I just can't imagine that FedEx doesn't   can't do that. You know?  

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Well, we all should learn how to,   ferment our own foods.   And, Joan, don't you have,   local vendors   that do fermented foods for you?  

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That that that do what for me, Sherry? Fermented.  

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Fermented.   Oh, yes. Uh-huh. Stir right across the Very good for your gut. That's what yogurt does as well.  

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Yeah.   Sauerkraut   too.   Mhmm.   Do you have   cheese?   Well yeah. Yeah. That too.   I she she has this little roadside thing, like, catty corner across the street from me.   Thank you.  

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Yes. And have her teach you how   if you could get there.   You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because that is very important for us to do for our own selves   and easily done at home.  

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Yeah. So you've done it before and you you let the the   the the cabbage and the whatever lemon juice. I don't know. Salt.  

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Salt. Salt. Just cabbage and salt.  

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Seventy two hours. What does Samuel say?  

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Just cabbage and salt. That's all you need for sauerkraut.  

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What about  

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Kefir, you can make. No. You don't add any water.   Nope. It make its own.  

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Oh, you just let it sit for seventy two hours like Don't you need some Germans?  

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You do need a fermentation   jar, though.  

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You're supposed to wash your hands before you put them in there so you don't get the Germans in there.  

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That's funny.  

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No. But,   is it is that a special   jar that rather than a a ball   jar?  

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Yes. Because it actually   allows,   it to burp, so to speak.  

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Oh. I'm still laughing, Samuel. That was good.  

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Yeah. Grandma used to make it in a 30 gallon stone crock. We always had lots of sauerkraut.  

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We've got a 50 gallon crock that we inherited from my wife's parents   with the board with the blade in it. Yeah. And,   this little thing with nails and you stab half the   the head of cabbage and you drag it back and forth over that blade and it shreds that cabbage, drops it right into the into the crock, and you   add salt every little bit and shake it up. And, man,   you got some   sauerkrauts   in there, boy.  

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It takes a lot of cabbages to do 50 gallons.  

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Yeah. It does.   But, you know, we got omelet down here, and they grow I'm sorry. Go ahead, Joan. Did it taste good? Did it taste good? Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's delicious.   Mhmm. And sauerkraut is loaded with probiotics. It's really wonderful   for the gut. You can eat it every day. It's perfect with a bratwurst.   Oh, man. Yep.   A clean one. You know, you   all brats aren't created equal.  

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So, Sherry, how often do you burp it?   Is it supposed to be burped?  

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Once a day if you're doing just a regular jar.  

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Okay.  

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But, a fermentation   crock,   you can add water to the edge   and so it burps itself,   and it doesn't   require,   you to   to do it   manually. A crop.  

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So  

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yes.   And it has a edge with a lid.   Oh. So you can find them. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.  

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You're welcome. Where's Larry when you need him?  

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He just Making a delivery.  

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I think he borrowed the company JET, and he's gonna drop ship Roger   some nucleotides.  

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Yeah. That would be nice.  

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Okay. Well, my phone cut out. I had to have conference call call me back, so I missed. What was Roger's issue?   Oral surgery.   Gum surgery. Oh, something that he's   not looking forward to, but he's not in immediate pain?  

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Next week, he they're gonna   I don't know. Sounded like about seven teeth. They're gonna be pulled. They're gonna put bone grafts in. They're gonna put in   implants.   He's gonna be in a   world of hurt, probably.  

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Hey. Sam.   Yep.   Do you think the one will help him?  

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I'm sorry?  

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The one.   Do you tell we'll help him?  

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I can't understand you. The one   take the one. Care of her one. Help. Oh, yeah. Exactly. The one would help him. Sure.  

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Well, what what he really needs is is a couple of Youngevity  

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healthy bone and joint packs.   Yeah. And he the the I mean, the body's always breaking down bone and rebuilding it, breaking down bone and rebuilding it.   And if you don't give it the raw materials that it needs, it it won't do it,   especially when you're 77.  

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Dave, does the does, Youngevity have a nucleotide product?  

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Tell me again what what it is.  

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It's the it's it's the builders of the RNA and the DNA.  

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I'm not sure what that is though.  

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Well, it's basically   there to build cells when   you're gonna go for surgery. What Marshall said that if you start start this before you go to his surgery,   you're gonna cut your healing time in half.  

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So, you know,   my friend,   he's a bicycle   endurance racer. You know?   And   he's in his when when he was in his forties,   he was, you know, pounding the Youngevity, and he wrote he lives in Indianapolis, and he works at the bus depot. He's a,   air conditioner mechanic   on city buses, electric,   and diesel and stuff. And,   it's like, I don't know how many miles under one roof, you know, this depot where where they work on these buses.   Anyway, he rides a bike,   you know, three sixty five   every day to work and back.   And unless it's a blizzard when he leaves or, you know, freezing rain or whatever, he he'll drive up his truck, but normally, he's riding his bike. One day, he was working afternoons and trying to get home beat to beat the storm,   and it nailed him when he was in in route, you know,   coming home at, like, ten at night. And   his last turn in the subdivision, he could see the house.  

His his shoes are pedals. Right? So they lock in.   And he took it that last turn, and he went down. He's got, like, ostrich   legs.   You know, he's, like, six foot three, and he's only about a hundred and fifty pounds, but, you know, he's got these monster legs. Anyway,   he broke his   femur   about four inches from the, you know, the ball and socket, and   and it broke right through.   It snapped.   It was a clean snap, and   he's laying there in the snow and ice and rain, you know,   And and he's still connected to his frigging bike, and he can barely move with I mean, he's in excruciating   pain.  

He'd he got loose. He got somehow got up, and he walked his bike home. And he got in the door, and he was white as a ghost.   And his old lady's freaking out. What happened?   Anyway,   he they took him to emergency. Her his his wife   is an ex nurse   who   had MS,   you know, from drinking all the diet sodas.   And and this guy is a huge advocate for Youngevity.   And and and his wife hated Wallach because she he said dead doctors don't lie. You know? Anyway,   his dad and his wife took him to the emergency, and the the surgeon said,   oh, you gotta have screws and plates and bolts and nuts and all this stuff. And he's like, are you freaking kidding me? He says,   do you realize how much I spend a month on nutrition?  

There is no way you're putting nothing in my body. Bones heal.   And he's like, oh, you'll never heal properly and blah blah blah. You're an athlete and this and that and this and his   father and his wife were screaming at him because he wouldn't let that surgeon   put anything in his body.   Well, he he finally went home, you know, and   he went back the next day   with with all the documentation of the nutrition that he was on. And, the the doctor's like, yeah. You know, you you'll probably heal without   all that stuff, and then, you know, I'm sorry. And but his wife and father weren't there to hear that.   And, you know, this is years ago. They still don't talk to him. His wife is still holding a grudge.  

He got in three days, he set up his his indoor   bicycle,   and he started pedaling   and pounding the bone and joint pack, the glucogel,   the osteo,   and the and the   aminos. And   in three weeks,   he walked into that surgeon's office   unassisted,   and that surgeon took an X-ray, and he was freaking   blown away. He's like, I've never   seen anything like it in my life.   You know, all he was taking was the, you know, the 90 nutrients   and pounding some more than others.   And,   he still kept him off of work for six weeks because he didn't want him you know, he'd never seen nothing like it, but he didn't he didn't trust it. Right? Anyway   nine seven one two zero In three weeks, that bone was healed.  

So Yeah. Can you do that? Yeah. You can do it. I mean, there's cells involved.   I don't think I don't know. I we don't have anything called nucleotides.   I don't really know if if that's a, you know, a proprietary name.   I don't know. We have,   we have,   what do they call it,   peptides,   but we don't have anything called nucleotides  

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that I'm aware of. Doctor Marshall used to is to tell a story   similar to what you just did. There is,   the way his went is   he had a good friend who broke his foot, a bone in the foot, and the foot swelled up so bad, the doctor said we can't set it right away.   We want that swelling to go down first.   So Marshall said, here's nucleotides. Take them so that, you know, it'll help you heal.   And by the time the swelling went down and he went back to have it set,   the doctor said the bone had already healed. It's already healed.   Yeah.  



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That's pretty cool.  

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So I guess it must have been in the right position. Otherwise, that wouldn't have been a good thing. Right? Then they would have had to break it and reset it.  

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Absolutely. See, they were worried because of the femur, you know,   and just where the break was, any movement. He said   every time he moved,   he was in the most excruciating   pain he's ever   experienced in his life.   And,   you know,   he yeah. It it was very painful, but he said within three days, he could he could ride his stationary bike in the house.   And,   he was on it every day.  

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When when I dislocated my shoulder,   and I had waited twenty four hours before I had it put back in, and it was   waist swollen out of proportion.   And,   the   doctors, after they put it back in, gave me painkillers,   and I didn't wanna take them.   So I took the serrapeptase   instead, and I was pretty much able   to avoid the painkillers   using the serrapeptase   as a painkiller because it's supposed to really reduce inflammation,   which is where the pain is coming from.  

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Right. Absolutely.  

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So   I think combination is two things. If you can get them ahead of time, if you know you're gonna have a surgery,  

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sir, worth a try. You know? Oh, yeah. You should always have this stuff on on hand just in case you have a, you know, an emergency situation that, you know, you can't plan for it, but you gotta be be prepared like a boy scout.  

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Right.  

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So connective tissue support, that's, you know,   collagen,   gelatin.   You know? That's what   all of our connective tissue   in our body,   it's all connective tissue.   And if you don't support it,   it breaks   down. And together.   Mostly   grain. The grains cause inflammation.   The wheat, barley, rye, and oats, you know, not only cause inflammation, but they break down your villi in your gut,   leaving it looking like poison ivy in there.   And you can only imagine what kind of damage that'll do to your body.   But people think they can eat whatever they want   or they don't care.  



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Well, I was digging ditches yesterday at a 100 degree weather. No problem.  

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And how old are you?  

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70.  

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Hey, Dave. That's awesome, dude. I love it.  

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Hey, Dave?   Yes. Even it's me, Julie. Even, organic scale cut oats are bad for you?  

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Yes.  

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So Okay. Oats oats have a protein called gliadin,   and is it is identical to gluten.   And what it does, it's a it's a daisy chain   amino acid.   It's like the analogy that doctor Glidden gives is if you throw a string of pearls   on the floor   and try to vacuum them up.   They will tangle in the roller   and, you know, you're done. Right?   If you cut the strings   and throw the pearls on the floor, the vacuum will suck them up. No problem.   Well,   the all protein breaks down to amino acids, and that's what the body absorbs   for nutrition.   And the villi   are like little hairs,   hollow hairs. They're like straws.  

And   when the stomach acid is perfect, right, when it's all right, when the system works the way it's supposed to,   it   the I've said before, the stomach is a bag of acid that keeps the body sterile.   And when your stomach acid is weak,   it can't do what it's supposed to do.   And and and I mean sterile. It kills   everything that it that comes in that shouldn't be alive like parasites   and and fungus   and that kind of stuff. And   so the now a hot soupy mix   dumps into the small intestine   that was already filled with sodium bicarbonate by the pancreas   so it   instantly neutralizes   the acid so it doesn't kill you when the stomach drains into the small intestine. And then those   hollow hairs, the villi, doc says it looks like velvet.  

When you when he would open up, you know, an intestine,   small intestine, a healthy one looks like velvet.   And,   as we age, we you know,   the gluten is so deadly   or so damaging to the villi,   you're   in the older you get, the more your your small intestine looks like an old garden hose.   So they're gone. They do grow back,   but they will die back and it'll look like poison ivy. And then you get that's where leaky gut syndrome comes from. You get little pinholes in the intestinal lining. Now because the gut ain't right, you get whole molecules of food that go through these pinholes. The blood attacks it. You get, you know, allergies, food allergies,   seasonal allergies. That all comes from, you know, a messed up gut. All disease or disease starts in the gut.  

And and when you remove that,   you know, that ongoing damage and then you, you know, aloe is it's wonderful   on the gut.   It it heals that gut.   Chicken broth heals the gut,   but you gotta heal that gut, you know, before you can reintroduce   foods that you may have been allergic to or had had issues from. Like people say it's, oh, it's not it's the it's the nightshades.   No. The nightshades   affect you when you got a leaky gut. But when you don't, they don't.   You know, they're they're healthy.   Anyway,   yeah.   The   the gliadin, gluten,   you want that out of your diet.  

It it causes inflammation and lots of other problems. And like Samuel said, pain   comes from inflammation. That's the warning sign. You know, that's your your check engine light coming on.   It means pull over. You you could blow your engine right now.   That's what pain tells you. What do the doctors do? Well, they pull out their drugs, which are like wire cutters. They cut the check engine light, and the light don't come on anymore. And then now the pain's gone for a little while until it comes back, and it reconnects another way.   So,   anyway, I I could talk all day, but I won't. I yield.  



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Thank you.   You're welcome.  

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Hey, Samuel.  

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Samuel.  

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Yes.  

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Serrapeptase.   Do you know if it works? Like, if you take one capsule,   does that help the pain   in it, like, say in a few minutes or an hour? Or does or in other words, it's that quick? It happens soon as in a within an hour of you taking one capsule, or does it have to build up to capsule every day, every day, every day for a few days, and then the pain kinda goes away?  

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No. When I did it, it,   it   probably started to affect the pain within twenty minutes.  

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Oh, with one capsule?  

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I don't know if I was taking one at the time. Just quite a few years ago. I might have taken more than one. You know, I'm a probably take two or two or three to start within the morning. The morning was was the time when the pain was the highest.   Yeah. So the I think the first two days of that, I used, I think, the whole bottle of painkillers they gave me.   That first   in the morning, I took one of those.   But by the third day, I was off, I think, completely and just taking   the rest of the day.   You know, every so many hours, I would take some.   And then,   by the third day, I was just doing that without any pain killer at all. So I pretty much had what they gave me.  



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Thank you.  

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Marshall makes some unique products. He   you know, he's a he was a PhD in nutrition,   and   he he was an athlete,   and he was poisoned twice in his life by nutritional products that he was taking   for bodybuilding and stuff like that. And he says   that's what got him interested in in in doing his own research and making his own product line. And he used to say, he say,   we won't make it if I don't take it.   So he he took the products that they   created, and,   he   he also said that,   a lot of this stuff   you know, I he had probably hundreds of products when I asked him this question. I says, well, out of all the products you have, if you had a tight budget,   which product would you recommend that I take?  

And he said the,   hydrochloric   acid and pepsin   so that you're digesting your food best,   which is basically   get breaking it down so that you're absorbing it. Right?  

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Right. Good.  

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But that nucleotide products also because it's got fermented mem it it it is stomach healing,   and it it also does promote the immune system for that reason. So,   you know, it's a it's   it's a decent product to have around to take occasionally, I think,   even if you're feeling good, you know, just to support your tummy a little bit.  

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May I?   Yeah.   Alright.   Joan, Julie,   there is such a thing thing called a PDR   for herbal   medicines.   Find everything in the earth in which to heal yourself. He said he's given it to us, and let's believe him.   And it's a beautiful book.   I bought it many, many years ago.   I think I paid $70   for it   on,   Joyce Riley show show.   But, it's probably a little more expensive now, but it goes into all the herbs,   Beautiful pictures of what to find in your own backyard as well.   And it has eight   indexes.   You can look things up   by, what your symptoms are   and what will help to heal that, and I yield.  



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A PDR. That's a physician's   desk reference.   Wallach wrote three of them. One is called   For herbal medicines, Dave. Yep. Doc's got a herbal one. Doc's got a one for essential oils, and Doc's got one for for the 90,   all nutritionally   based.   Three physician desk reference. It's you buy the whole set. You get three. Let's play doctor. Let's play herbal doctor, and the the third one is called the passport to aromatherapy   about essential oils, high yield.   Go to drjwallach.com.  

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Another unique product that Marshall makes, and he said when he was younger,   dude,   there was a goal to do fermented things like a fermented bee. But at the time, the technology wasn't there, and it was an impossibility.   He think he thought it would never be achieved in his lifetime.   He had the breakthrough with, I think, the first liquid mentholated b,   supplement,   and,   it's called Max Stress B.   And   I suggested a friend of mine take that who suffered from,   panic attacks and,   that kind of thing. And,   it turned his life around   by taking that b.  

I probably introduced that to him twenty years ago. He still takes it every day.  

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Okay. Are you saying   Bean, d e a n?  

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B as in boy,   vitamin b.   It's it's a mentholated liquid.   Again, it that that's   part of doctor   Marshall's   process is the is a fermentation and a nano breakdown process,   that's unique, I think, to a lot of his line.   At least the bee   and the, and the nucleotides.  

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So the mentholated   bee,   is that is that in a,   capsule,  

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a liquid gel or a Dropper bottle. Tablet?  

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Who?  

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A dropper bottle.  

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Oh.  

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Yeah. It's a it's a liquid   in dropper bottle.   It's called Max Stress Speed.   So people with high stress   lifestyle,   depression, or anxiety,   I think you'd probably have good luck with that.  

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Does it have all the b vitamins   b complex?  

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It's a complex. I don't I I can't   quote   it myself.  

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Okay.   Thank you.  

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Quantum Nutrition Labs, if you look that up in Austin, Texas,   or if you call them, they've got really helpful,   support there   to get you in the right direction.   I'm I'm one of the reasons I'm I'm not taking a whole lot of their product line anymore is because I'm I'm getting a lot of it done, I think, through the Youngevity line. But,   there's still some products there that are unique and   worth having around,   that I think,   if especially if you really need a boost in   in that b area, that stress area, that depression or anxiety,   that would be a product that really targets that well.  

That's from there.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Avon Datam, are you still here?   Avon Datam.  

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Rich is.  

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Hi, Rich. What I was gonna ask Dave   on the phone, it  

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Don't sleep.   I just woke up, so   I I was talking.   So you   you you need a statement about it. Is there any somebody else on the line, I guess?   Yeah. I'm I'm on the line. I just woke up.  

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Okay.  

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Okay. So, well,   if Dave's not on you, I was just gonna ask it because I had to go to get somebody at the door. Somebody came to my door when he was talking about   the person he knew that broke his leg right all the way in half   or something like that. The bone broke all the way, I think, all the way across.   And   then I had to go to the door, this person at the door, and I missed the part where did Dave   say   that   the   bone   was the two piece the two halves of the leg   were bone   were in a good position   for it to heal on its own,   and and that and it just kinda went back together   on its own because   it wasn't   did he say anything like that?  



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I don't wanna I may have confused   that issue because,   of the other guy, but,   who healed   before they could set it. But they probably set this guy's like the guy that   Dave's talking about.   Oh. But what they wanted to do is add pins, and that's what the guy did not allow.  

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Yeah.  

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So they probably put a splint on, set it, put a splint on. Oh. And then and then he   because they they said   it wouldn't be successful without the pins. And he said, absolutely. It's gonna heal, and Dave said he was walking in three days. So Wow.  

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Okay. But they at least said it. Okay. They at least did something.  

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I'm assuming they did. I don't know if Dave set that out, but I think the argument was about whether they use pins or not.  

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Okay. Thanks.   Yeah.  

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After a compound fracture?  

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Not sure it was compound or not. Not that that should make a difference. That just means it's come through the skin.  

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Broke and broke.  

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He he said the band walked home on it.  

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Oh my gosh. I I   I saw I saw   we witnessed when we were kids, we witnessed, one of the guys on our football team. He he had double compound fracture, and they set it out there on the football field. And I ain't never heard anybody scream   so bad in all my life. It was horrible. We were just, wow.  

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Unbelievable.  

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So,   yeah, when it's that that's serious. When you got a bone that's a compound fracture coming out of the skin,   that's serious.   So,   I would I would think the pens   yeah. The pens would   definitely be something that   surgery   would would have to take care of.   But,   so what is what's this product that that,   you're talking about to put on,   I guess, around the wound or something?  

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Okay. Well, you heard that.  

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Yeah. I don't I don't know   I don't know if,   did did you hear me ask a question? Because I don't know if I start   started it out properly.  

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Hey. Hey, Rich. I don't I don't know the answer, but, we, the people on here were talking about three different products in the last, twenty, thirty minutes. One was   nucleotides,   and one is,   Sarah Peptase,   and another one is,   mentholated   vitamin b.   And maybe but I don't   I don't know which one they were talking about for,   for the for a compound fracture or whatever. So   so I I cannot answer your question.  

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You can use Comfrey on a compound fracture.  

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There you go.  

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Comfrey?  

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Possibly. Plant a medicinal plant, and, basically,   it helps the healing process. You'd wrap it around like, think of it, if you had a piece of lettuce   and you wrapped it around   the fracture or whatever.   Now, obviously, it's gotta be in contact with the skin, but if you already got a double pound or double   fracture or whatnot, you're probably gonna have it in a cast. So, obviously, that kinda defeats the purpose. But   you had, like, a small fracture where it did not need   a cast, but you had   something and you could wrap your, arm around it or your leg or whatnot.  

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Or make a poultice.  

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That that that works too. Yeah.  

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And myrrh myrrh even eats it or drinks it.   Comfrey.   Oh,  

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comfrey.  

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Yeah. Com comfrey.  

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It's very painful in an open wound. I'll just tell you that.  

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Oh.   So Yeah. What is it?   On a open wound, it stinks   or what?   Burns?  

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Home for you? I I would even go further than that. It's a deep down,   painful.  

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Okay.  

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So  

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That's all I need to know.  

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I'm not saying that it's not beneficial,   but just beware   that on an open wound, Comfrey   does have its side effects.   Okay. I yield. Thank thank you.  

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Now the other gentleman wasn't me asking about   an open wound or something else, aside from,   compound fracture.  

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Only because he just woke up and he came in late on the conversation, and he was trying to find out what more what the conversation was about. I don't think he has a broken bone or  

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needs a broken bone help. Yeah. I don't think that Dave said that his friend had a compound fracture either,   which means it would have been broken open. Right? So   but I had a friend who, lady friend, that was into the herbal world, and,   she said if you make a solution of comfrey and you cut a piece of red meat and you stick it in there, it'll mend it back together.  

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If you stick the red meat where?  

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In a solution of, comfrey, she would make a tincture with it. Yeah.   And she said that red meat will where you where you sliced it, just stick it back together and put it in the solution. It'll mend itself back together.  

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There's something better than that.  

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Yeah.  

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A fresh   a fresh   cobweb.  

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Fresh what?  

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Cobweb.   A spider's web.   Yes.   It is healing.   Sorry.   Say it again, Sketch.  

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Oh, I was just gonna I'm sorry I interrupted you. Yarrow is also good for,   open wounds. Yarrow.  

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No stitches required. You put that fresh   spider web in that wound   and wrap it.   So  

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That's a first for me. I've never heard that, Jerry. That's a good one.  

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So will you have,   after this stuff heals, will you have, like, Spider Man, capabilities or something?  

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Go back to sleep, Rich. I yield.  

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That I've never heard any I've never heard anything   like that before. A spiderweb on a wound?  

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Me neither.   But I trust the elders in that regard,   and,   I started following her posts.   It's an l and I don't know what color has to do with this, but it's an elderly black woman.   And she says   we used what we had   and she goes into the garden,   so to speak.   You use what you have on hand   and,   the spider web was a mender of the skin, and I yield.  

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Yeah. Brent sent me   a a thing, Brent Bachman,   with that,   very thing you're talking about there with the fresh spider webs. Yep. And then they would use other herbs after and mention comfrey.   And quit putting down my comfrey, damn it.  

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No. But   I I just gotta tell you. When I had   a a,   a Brown Recluse bite   Oh.   I put that on there, and let me tell you, it went deeper than the wound  

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with the pain. Well, it went after it. Yeah. Well, it was a brown recluse spider. It wasn't the comfrey. I've used comfrey many times for many things, and it's not painful. And you kinda squish it up so you get the juices flowing in it, but it is fuzzy.   It's kinda rough and fuzzy.   You know?  

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Yeah. Since we're on the talk of spider bites, and oversteak bites, I'll have to this.  

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Do you guys You gotta eat one from Boulevard.  

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Actually, you wanna take the venom down to pretty much zero once you get bit.   You take a taser and you tase yourself, like, tase across and make an x pattern   on the pipe.  

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Now that's painful. It  

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has to be like, that's what that's what the electricity does. It it nullifies the   the the venom.  

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Yep.  

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I've got something more simple than that. Hard, but it's gonna save your life if need be.   Or the pain Well,  

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well,   watch it with miracle two soap. Sorry, Myr.   Miracle two soap.  

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What's miracle two soap?  

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Oh my. I'll have this I don't have your   I'll I'll figure out how to send a snapshot   of the bottle.   It's amazing.   Ask Brent Bachman. He knows about it.  

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Okay.  

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I'm I'm using it for more than twenty years. George Riley used to promote that stuff.  

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That's how I found it. Yes. Miracle with the number two. Is that what it is? A numeral numeral two. Yeah. Numeral two. Yeah. Mhmm. And what Dave here on the thumb was saying about this fella, he was,   when was it? He was,   using the,  

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bone packs or something? Drum wallet? The while it calls it a healthy bone and joint pack, it's got   glucogel   from collagen from,   Argentine beef.   And that's, I mean, that's pretty much the peptides, I believe, that Samuel's talking about because the collagen is actually what your bone marrow is made out of.   The immune system   grows out of your collagen, your bone marrow   into your gut, your, you know, small intestine.   And,   you know, that's how you rebuild your immune system is with collagen.   And the it knocks down inflammation   incredibly   well.  

So, that that's gotta be what Samuel's talking about because that's   that's what this gentleman was pounding. That's what I pounded when I fell down my basement stairs, and I I healed a thirty three year old injury   in my leg   that I really I mean,   I didn't even realize it until I went to look for it, and it was gone. I had a crack in my shin   from a a car wreck   after a motorcycle wreck that you know, I   I got in two wrecks simultaneously.   I wrecked a motorcycle,   shattered my ankle. Three days after I got the cast off, I got in a car accident,   shattered my pelvis, and broke that same leg in three places. And   one of them was in the shin   about 10 inches long. It never healed properly. It I had a half inch   gap   about 10 inches long, and it was you could stick your finger in it about a half inch deep. If there wasn't any skin,   it would probably go deeper.  

And after falling down my basement stairs   in 2012,   thirty three years later,   you know, I was on Wallach's, you know, bone and joint pack, and   that   all my old injuries healed,   including the one that I got falling down the stairs that the doctor said I had an eighty percent chance he was gonna have to amputate my foot.  

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Wow. So   Yeah. You know, though, comfrey, if it had been applied,   tube probably would have helped heal that.  

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Oh, comfrey is amazing.  

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Yep.   So what happened with the rest of your leg and your, pelvis? Did that heal?  

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Oh, yeah.  

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Cool. Yeah. I was in the hospital for   I got in a motorcycle wreck in 1979,   and I shattered my ankle. Three days later   or sorry. Three days three days after the cast came off,   the cast came off because of hurricane David,   was the first year they named hurricanes after men, and it was my first hurricane. We I lived in Florida right on the Intercoastal.   And,   anyway,   we were coming home from the bar, my roommate and I, in his '70 three Pinto,   and he made a left hand turn in front of an LTD going 45.   That LTD hit my door and crushed that little Pinto,   and it rolled over a few times. We ended up upside down in the ditch,   you know, and the we were on a one a   coming home from Fort Lauderdale   going north and,   you know, we had just had a hurricane,   three days earlier.  

And,   anyway, the leg broke in three places and my pelvis   shattered. I was in a coma for about a week, and I woke up in intensive care.   And I had a cast on up to my, you know,   right up to my crotch.   And   I did my dad was there from Michigan.   Hadn't seen him in a couple years, and I asked him for a cigarette.   He said, you can't smoke in here. There's oxygen.   And I said, I I won't smoke it. Just put it in my mouth.   And   I I didn't ask what happened. I didn't remember anything.   And I was laying there, and   I put my hand on my leg, and it was on a cast. And I thought about it,   and I thought,   wait a minute. My cast only comes up to my knee.  

And then a guy come up and start yelling at me, told me I couldn't smoke,   and he snatched a cigarette out of my mouth and broke it.   And I said, it doesn't even lit. I'm not smoking.  

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Anyway, he said, I don't care if there's oxygen in here. You can't smoke.  

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He ran away, and I asked dad for another cigarette. And   the next thing I knew, I was waking up in in a room.   And,   yeah, I had broke my my tibia and,   fibula, I think it's called,   and   on the same leg as the ankle,   and   and that that never really healed right   until   I fell and broke my,   my,  

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oh, what the hell is it called?  

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Anyway, it's a u shaped bone that connects the ankle to the leg.   I fell down my stairs trying   to carry this giant cabinet down there by myself, and,   it had other ideas.   And the the doctor, twelve hours after they tried to set it at two different hospitals,   he told my wife as he was there wheeling me into surgery   that I had an eighty percent chance I was gonna lose that foot.   And   he ended up putting a couple of screws, one in each ankle, put it back together. It was,   that bone was three and a half inches out of the socket,   broken three big pieces, a bunch of little pieces. They vacuumed out the little pieces,   put together the three big pieces. And   next day,   when I woke up after surgery,   he came to visit me and asked how come I wasn't using the the morphine   button.  

I said, I I don't have any pain. Why should I use morphine?   Anyway,   he said I still had an eighty percent chance   I was gonna lose that foot within five years. I said,   why?   He said, well,   it's the worst break of that bone I've ever seen in my twenty year career. I've never seen one heal,   and there's only one blood vessel that feeds that bone.   And he said, within five years, the pain is gonna be so bad, you're gonna be begging me to amputate your foot. I said, how do I even those odds, doc?   He said nutrition.   And I had just learned about Wallach   before I fell.  

And I almost fell out of my bed when he said nutrition. And I said, you mean this? I pointed out a plate of hospital food next to me, and he started laughing hysterically and walked out of the room.   So, anyway, my journey began. And,   about six months later, I was walking a seventeen minute mile on the treadmill,   and I've never looked back.  

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Humor is, probably the best healing.  

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Oh, man. Believe me. I know about that.  

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I remember a guy who was supposed to be dying of cancer, and I don't remember the whole the his name and the story and everything. But,   across the street from the hospital was a hotel, and he got a room over there and watched, Marx Brothers movies nonstop,   and he healed.   Depends on your taste and humor, I guess. Oh, and I was reading about oats too because I read a lot about that. And, you know, I think that's,   you know, people can be allergic to it. And, that description,   you know, is is one thing, but,   there's nothing that warms me up better than eating some oats in the winter, I'll tell you.  

So,   of course, I don't go for this all animal products all the time either. In fact, I don't want any of them ever.   Oh, and I was just reading some really good recipes about making, cheeses out of nuts and seeds.   And,   this, chef that does it, I didn't know that existed. His last name's k e n n e y.   And in restaurants all around the world and stuff, and,   and it only takes a few days. So now I'm gonna have to play with that. That sounds interesting.  

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The the nucleotides   really aren't,   what, like, Dave is saying where you're taking   the   the raw materials   to build something.   Nucleotides are more like   the conductor of the orchestra. They take those building blocks   and do a better job of organizing them, getting the gut ready to help   turn these things into   what   they should be doing,   where the problem is. So they it's more of a a the nucleotides   are more of a conductor of that orchestra. We call the orchestra the   the nutritional   food   that's needed, but the nucleotides are they're they're working at the level of the RNA and the DNA   to conduct this whole healing process.  

And Marshall used to say that if you get a couple of weeks if you know you're gonna have a surgery,   if you get a couple of weeks of the nucleotides   in you prior to that surgery, it's gonna cut your healing time in half, and it's also gonna give you a super duty   immune system so that you're not gonna end up with staph infection or some crap like that from the hospital.  

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Yeah. I think I remember reading about this.   What's his last name or his first name? His last name's Marshalls Marshall Wright.  

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Doctor Bob Marshalls. Yeah. He he's he's one of the places that first had them.   He's got a   he's dead now, but he's got a place called Quantum Nutrition Labs   in Austin, Texas.   It basically is working with   building more ATP,   ADP.   You know, these these are   then   reacting and getting a response from your DNA and your RNA,   and   they're there to   rebuild things and   getting a good dose of this in your system, what Marshall was saying,   just   starts to   get everything ready for the healing process.  

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Yeah.   Jew Wikipedia says, nucleotides are organic molecules composed of a nitrogenous   base, a pentose   sugar,   and a phosphate.   They serve as monomeric units of the nucleic   acid polymers,   deoxyribonucleic   acid DNA,   and ribonucleo   acid   RNA, both of which are essential biomolecules   within all life forms on Earth.   Nucleotides are obtained in the diet and are also synthesized from common nutrients   by the liver.   Nucleotides are composed of three   subunit molecules, a nucleobase,   a five carbon sugar ribose or,   deoxyribose,   and a phosphate group consisting of one to three phosphates.  

The four nucleobases   in DNA are   guanine,   adenine,   cyst,   cytosine,   and thiamine in   RNA.   Uracil is used in place of thiamine.   Nuclei   if this is making sense to somebody. Nucleotides   also play a central role in metabolism at a fundamental cellular level.   They provide chemical energy in the form of nucleoside   triphosphates,   adenosine   triphosphate,   ATP. Oh, yeah. You always hear about ATP.   Quantoside   triphosphate,   GTP,   cytidin   triphosphate,   CTP,   and iridine triphosphate,   UTP,   throughout the cell for the many cellular functions that demand energy, including amino acid   protein and cell membrane synthesis.  

Moving the cell and cell parts both internally   and intercellularly,   cell division, etcetera. In addition, nucleotides   participate in cell signaling,   cyclic   guanosine   monophosphate   or   cGMP   and cyclic   adenoside   monophosphate   or   c a   excuse me,   CAMP   and are incorporated into important cofactors of enzymatic reactions.   And I'll stop there  

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for you to   conductor and orchestra members.  

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Yeah. Right?   Yeah.  

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Mhmm. Kinda funny you'd say you'd thought you you mentioned RNA, DNA.   And I'm what he said, I'm I'm looking at a bottle sitting   sitting on the window seal,   and I'm like,   I wonder if it's the same thing. RNA DNA. That's what it says on the bottle. I don't even know where I got it.  

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Yeah. Marco makes his nucleotides   in a,   it's a fermentation   process, and they you're   when you're taking those things from him, it it you're you're actually getting a fermented product   which is   also good for the gut and the nucleotides themselves   are are helping the gut build an immune system   through the,   RNA and DNA base that it's giving it. So,   yeah,   having a good immune system when you're in the hospital, you know, so many people get staph infections,   which just complicates everything   they went in there to fix, and sometimes it kills them.  

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Another reason to stay out of a hospital if you can.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Just like staying out of courts. Right?  

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Right.  

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Comment.   Hey, guys. Hey, Murr. Thank you so much for all that. That's great information. And Samuel too.   And Dave,   this is write up,   descriptions for what I need, basically.   I was you know, what comes to my mind is that song from Emerson Lake and Palmer,   if you remember, brain salad surgery.  

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Yep.  

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Anyway,   that's really good stuff.   Samuel, I was just wondering, where do you get all your information from? That's just   a lot of stuff there.  

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Well, a long time ago, I decided   I wasn't gonna deal   with Western medicine   anymore or little as possible.   And I started with a book   written by Andreas Moritz, and that's like the size of a telephone book.   But he covered all the pretty much the natural stuff that's in there with herbs and you name it. He was a very new age guy, so there was a lot of wild stuff in there as well as   basic understanding.   He used to look for cures in the world   that were and some of them weren't eight hundred years or older. It's like the spider web thing. I mean, the Romans knew this. They were sticking them in the wounds   on the battlefield.  

He was into that kind of stuff as well as   a lot of other things, and   and it started me on that journey a long time ago. And   Marshall used to have   so I picked up on him.   And,   he's just got some unique products,   because of that fermentation   process that he learned and   and the nanostructure that can be built with that and making it very bioavailable.   And and   that's   that that product that helped one of my friends who was,   had real problems and debuts with depression and and anxiety.   When I introduced him to to that Maxx dress v that Marshall had, it probably saved his life.   So   Marshall's got some unique products.  

He's also   he's got some clays and stuff as well,   and   things that you mix with the clay to get,   therapeutic results.   But a lot of these things,   he he had he he got in trouble with the FDA for making,   medical claims, so to speak. Right? So   you almost have to know about them and ask for them and   because he's gotta be very they've gotten very careful   about saying anything like that anymore,   and making claims that it can do anything   because  

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of the FDA.  

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Well, you remember when the  

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oh, go ahead.  

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I was just thank you for that again. And,   Marshall, you mentioned the guy. Marshall, is he the founder of,   the  

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Yeah. Doctor Bob Marshall was had a PhD in nutrition,   and he was he was, an avid,   athlete and bodybuilder.   And   he said twice in his life, he said the second time, he says I got the message. One of the,   supplements he took almost killed him.   So he decided   to start producing his own line, and that that's pretty much what his motivation was, is to produce good clean products,   for people who wanted to have a healthy bodies, you know. And   and he's got a little place there in, Austin, Texas   called Quantum Nutrition Labs.   But I I and I also wanna say a lot about Wallach. You know? I don't I   they're they're both excellent guys who,   who are on the cutting edge of a lot of the different things that,   I sort of I rely on both of them quite a bit. Samuel, one of the differences between  

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Bob Marshall and Joel Wallach is   Wallach sued the FDA 10 times so he could make   medical claims.  

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That's pretty good.  

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And he won. You know?   That yeah.  

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And We need the autopsies to back it up. Right? Yeah. Absolutely.  

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Well, you could see, that was too much for these   moronic judges.   They they couldn't fathom what he was saying even with the autopsy   proof. And, you know, because he   he was able to force them to   to,   make the well, he was able to get them to force   the baby formula manufacturers   in the in The US to to put selenium   and maybe nine other nutrients,   you know, cofactors   in baby formula because before that lawsuit,   there weren't there was no selenium in any baby formula and selenium   is the main,   you know, reason for SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome.   And they were blaming it on mothers, you know, for rolling over on their children and killing them in bed. And you you can imagine the traumas that that caused. Yeah.  

You know?  

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Hey. There's fathers there's there's fathers in jail   for that, you know, with when that case was, you know, shaken baby syndrome, they Yes. Try to say, but that was vaccines usually. Go ahead.  

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Yes. It was vaccines.   And,   but so, yeah, Wallach,   Wallach and Jonathan Emord, that was Wallach's attorney.   That dude is something else.   You need to look him up. He's in Virginia.  

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Was he is he Jewish too?  

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You know? I don't know. I don't know.  

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. How to sue. Jews really know how to sue. Lawfare is really in their, you know,   repertoire.  

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Well, Wallet I mean, Wallet just   wanted to be able to make claims, so he got, you know, the best,   constitutional   attorney   he could find, and that was Jonathan Emard. I don't know if Emard's a Jew or not.  

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Well, I mean, Joe Joe Wallach is.  

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No. He's not a Jew.   Wallach ain't no Jew.  

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There was a time there when I was am I am I muted? Or  

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Yeah. I hear you. Okay.  

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There was a time when when I was really digging getting Wallach's aloe vera juice,   and all of a sudden, it wasn't available.   And they said it was on back order, and then it still wasn't available. For months, it wasn't available.   So I finally called down there, and I started prying around.   And what had happened is   Marshall uses   a number of incoming tests on all base product.   He got he where he grew his aloe vera was   down in South America somewhere where there was very little,   contamination from the air, none from the ground, etcetera.   And they were handpicked leaves when they were ripe. It wasn't like it's mowing down of a whole crop and harvesting it.  

And,   that stuff was awesome.   So I went and couldn't get it for a while. I really got desperate to try to get some more of it. Right? And,   comes to find out that they had ordered, something like fifty   fifty five gallon drums of this stuff.   And when it came into Austin,   it didn't test right, and they couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Well,   it took them several months,   but they found out that the Mexicans   irradiated at the border.   Wow.   And it showed up in his test, and it was some kind of biofuel test that he was doing that picked it up.   So, you know, the integrity of of Marshall was to sell nothing,   you know, in lieu of figuring out what the heck was wrong   Right. And take it and taking the hit until he had it figured out. So I always trusted him to and in in the other thing that I wish Wallach would,   or Youngevity would do is what he did with shipping. He he would never ship anything US mail, he says, because they irradiate everything. Right. And he said it he would only stand behind his,   guarantee   if you returned it UPS like he shipped it to you.  

So that was his only stipulation.  

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Yes. And I don't know how true this is, but they do have a orange sticker,   and you tell the USPS   or post office,   that it's live food,   and it says do not irradiate.   And I don't know if they hold to that or not, but   anyway  

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Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if UPS does a lot of it now too. You know? Who knows?   But back then when I was getting more product from him,   there was always a disclaimer that, you know, he'd honor your guarantee. You you you didn't need an excuse. All you wanted to do is return it. You could return it. But if you returned it anything other than UPS, it was void because   that made it what made it to him not resellable.  

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Right. Well, that's how Joyce Riley's   had her stuff shipped.   K.   Was through USPS, but with that sticker,   do not radiate live food.   So k.   But whether they honor it or not is a different matter for sure.  

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And,   apparently, actually, Joel Wallach is Ashkenazic too, but that's alright. Whatever.  

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Sherry,  

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you're symbolic. He's a Christian.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. I get that. You know, this is the thing they get us with, though.   Okay? I'm glad he's a Christian. That's wonderful.   But see, they divide it on religion when it's not just religion.   Right?   It's a race. It's a group of people, and it's how they're raised.   So, I mean, that's just that's in the blood.  

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Wallach was not raised an Ashkenazi   Jew. He wouldn't know what that was if you asked him.  

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I'm saying he was born that way.   He may not have been raised that way.  

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Murrah, I would say it's a culture  

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and not really, It's a culture, but it is it is bloodline too. It is bloodline.   You know? I mean,   but often it has,   like, he has brilliance.  

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Hey, Murr. You're saying that Joel Wallet was raised by Ashkenazi   parents?  

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No. I'm just saying he's listed here.   One of the things I'm looking at was all the sponsors Alex Jones used to have, x, like, six, right, and how many of them were Jews. You know? And he was one.   Okay.  

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Thank you.  

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I don't know a whole lot of detail about it, but I've I've known this, though, for years and years. You know? But it's no big deal. I mean, it's just how it is.  

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Okay.   So how many blood types are there?  

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I said bloodlines.   It's different than types.  

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Oh, okay.  

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So with the cert what's what's the 13   what was it? The 13  

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bloodlines or something that I I came across a couple of times? There's actually more. There's there's actually several 13 bloodlines. You know? There's, the, black nobility   out of Europe. A lot of that's Italian.   There's the,   you know, from the,   Israelites,   those 13   tribes.   There's,   I think, there's a   in Arab too.   But, yeah, prime primarily, though, it's the,   the black nobility and the, Israelite tribes.   And, of course, one of the one of the Israelite tribes was, you know, from,   Hagar's son there. Right?   But it this this is something else. You know? They always talk about Abraham and the Abrahamic religions and all that. Well, after Sarah died, he remarried.   And he had, I think it was, six six sons, and and she was an Arab.  



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So it's reading Gary Go ahead. Gary Wayne stuff the other day, and, I know Jesse was talking about the vast community.   And,   what came up was sort of surprising that Ignacio   Loyola, who was the first   general of the Jesuit order, he started the order with some of his friends.   Yeah. He he was Bosque, and he was born in Loyola Castle,   which was a bloodline castle.  

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So He's also doing it.  

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Right. Right? And no. He he was he was a Roman Catholic, but  

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Well, there we go. There we go with it with religion. I'm talking about bloodline wise. He did come from, Jewish He was a bloodline. Definitely.   And he started   he started the Jesuits, the Jew suits, basically.   Yep. He had been injured in, war.   And,  

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I had a revelation.  

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Didn't Loyola also,   bring about the Society of   Jesus Christ or Jesus?   Won't say that. Society.  

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That's what the Jew suits are. They're the Society of Jesus, they call themselves.   Yeah. Yeah. Why call them Jewsuits?  

[03:47:17] Unknown:

Well, I know. So my question is,   if you have a problem with the Jesuits, what about what they created?   The name.   Just curious.  

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I mean, it's it's,   Society of Jesus, my foot. Right?  

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Or is that perhaps where the name   came from, and it's all just a deception   in and of itself   and a way to steer you away from his true name?  

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Amen.  

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Okay. Well, the whole point of these bloodlines is they created every one of these groups   and every one of these secret societies.   They're the crux of the real matter, and they've got us arguing about which one did it.  

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Yeah. When in fact all you need to know is, no king but king Jesus.  

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Yeah. But you're using the name from Loyola   Loyola.   I   I don't know. For everybody on this phone call, I will say it again.   The importance of your name and how it is spelled   is so crucial to all of us on this call. Why isn't his was capital h important to us on this call? I  

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yield.   Capital h?  

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I was just trying to make the point. He was born in Loyola Castle in the mosque or in in a Bosque area of Spain,   and he was a Bosque, but he was a bloodline Bosque.   He was the he was the youngest of 13 children.  

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Okay. We've moved on to the name, though.   And those who call upon my name, that is even written in the j v,   k KJV.   So   if you don't know his name,   how are you to call upon him?  

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See, here's the thing, though, that gets me. That again gets into an argument. You have some saying, you have to say Jehoshaphat, you have to say Jezos Christos.   You say Jesus. You he knows all the languages he made them.   It's not like he's you know? And and it's interesting that the King James Bible is around now because   he knew it would be, you know, with the English language being the most prevalent language on Earth.  

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That was the point I was trying to make to Sherry yesterday.   God knows exactly who I'm talking to when I use Lord or Jesus or Christ.  

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It's important to us, but you gotta differentiate. This is God. Alright? He's so much higher than us,   and he doesn't look on it like I tell you what, I called out to Jesus when when that little Volkswagen was going on its own. And,   he answered me. You know? He he said, you asked for my help. Now let me. And my hands flew off the steering wheel, and he took it in.   Yep.   He he knows. And in fact, often, we don't even call on him. But in our minds, in our hearts, we may be asking for his help.   He knows.  

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So Jesus took the wheel?  

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He sure did. He took the wheel. He took the gear shift. He took the pedals. He took it all.   He backed me down this steep hill to keep me from going off at some other way.   You know, went down slow and stopped, and it was practically vertical.   Yeah.   Interesting story, at least to me.   But, Sherry, I get your I get what you're saying there because so many times and in fact, one time on, Stat Miller's   National Endowment Report and, Steve Elkins on there,   and they were talking about, I guess it was around Martin Luther King Day or something. Yeah. Because they were talking about that.   And,   I asked them if they knew,   the name of,   Stanley David,   Levi's son. Not Levinson,   but Levi's son. No n in there. Anyway, I'd asked them if and they didn't. And, that was his handler. That was,   Molok. MLK stands for Molok, in case we didn't know.  

They use it everywhere.   Yeah. So he was he was their his handler. And, when I looked it up oh, oh, I know what it was. Steve Elkins was so worried about not,   spelling the name correctly for,   Ginsburg,   whether it was e r g or u r g. Right? And this was over her husband who was part of NAMBLA,   Marty, house to house husband Marty. Because, you know, he and,   he and Antonine   Scalia,   the   the couples there, the two couples with double date and stuff. And and   both in, in Nambla and stuff, and there's stuff about Antonin.   But, anyway, I was looking in the FBI file. They had it I don't know. Somehow, it was easier to find that day than it is some other days. But,   Levison's   name was spelled 22 different ways,   you know, between the first, middle, and last and,   you know, whether whether he included and, you know, it's 22 different ways.  

So I I told,   you know, told them probably can relax. I don't think you're gonna be sued   for for thinking BRG isn't URG. And in fact, it was the same guy.  

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Yes. But don't you think that that was purposeful?  

[03:53:05] Unknown:

Yes. Definitely.  

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So, therefore, he couldn't be held to account? That's not my name.  

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Exactly. Exactly.   Yep. All over the place.  

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I don't know. Don't you believe he has one name?  

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Mhmm.   Yeah. So,  

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he does answer to many.  

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Stanley David Levi sent, but he twisted around however was convenient.  

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Yep.  

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We don't really have the name. We got   the main letters. We don't have the vowels.   So  

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there you go. Said there were none.  

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Well,   you can't speak like that   unless they had a different way of speaking.   They did.   They knew back then, but they   I don't know. You know? I mean,   all this talk about, you know, it's gotta be in the original Greek or the original Hebrew. There was never any original manuscripts.   They were written on crappy stock. They wore out quickly, and they had to be redone.   So there was no originals ever. We have to pinpoint the original dwelling. Ever been done in the King James version   that's now been printed over a billion times exactly   the way God wanted it to be.  



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Or you'd allowed it to be. I think there's some things in there that aren't quite accurate as to but that's been over time. It's been changed. But it's still limited to be able to make that judgment. I know things like Easter being in there. And I and Gary Wayne's great at tearing these things apart  

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and looking at them, but he's also a complete believer   that that Bible is the valid, you know, word of God and that any contradiction to it is probably our misunderstanding.  

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Yeah. And also, you know, these   the newer,   versions and and they slip stuff in, but just a numerical   testing, litmus test is, amazing.  

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Well, Gary Wayne's even come to the conclusion that he he used to use the NIV and he says,   real problem when you wanna try to figure out what it's saying in Genesis   and whether there's a creation before the creation that was destroyed.   He says those words in the King James   are way more useful   than the NIV.  

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Mhmm. And they change or leave things out, reverse things.   But I I think I sent it to you, podcast seven from Brandon. They did did a thing. I think it was   Saturday, maybe Friday or Saturday. I forget just when, but   I need to have been studying. No. I you know, when they put it up, they had done it earlier and edit it and stuff so they could fit it into three hours   or over three hours, whatever it was. It was it was good, though, but,   almost all of them said they started out with NIV.   You know? We came to realize   the difference. Well,  

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even Peterson says that, you know, he he was using,   a number of different versions and and but he never really read the,   the King James.  

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You know?  

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Mhmm. Now he probably owns a 100 different King James.  

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Well, when they do these podcasts, if you look behind him on the shelf, there's all these different Bibles.   And, he's he has them all over the place. He has a one of the versions in his son's room.   And, so, you know, you can read to him in there or they can read it too and,   you know, and about loving your brother. And it's that's a great way to grow up.  

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God said we would have his word   in the end times,   and   it certainly wouldn't be in a language I can't read.  

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I think that's why they're so   bent   on changing things from the King James and and eliminating they call it the Pauline. Right? Trying to eliminate   Paul.  

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I don't Yeah. We gotta eliminate the divinity of Jesus and gotta get rid of Paul. That's their goal.  

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Yep.   Well, you know,   that one guy, that William was sharing,   doing the   Dead Sea Scrolls. It was a Jew.   You know? That it's they they all wanna say Paul is   a a fraud and all this stuff, and it's not true.   He was a convert,   you know, and it doesn't even say it just switches from Saul to Paul. Well, Paul is a Greek way of saying Paul Saul. Yeah.  

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Yeah. A a couple of weeks ago, Lisa asked me a question about was Jesus in a scene.   And I and I didn't realize she had Gary Wayne's book and hadn't read it. And,   there's a chapter in there on the Essene,   and Gary Wayne is basically saying they claimed that Jesus was an Essene.   But if you really look into the Essene,   they   worship   fallen angels.  

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Yeah.  

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There's so many Christians think that was Jesus   that they were  

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was was in a scene. You know? He's Satan and all this stuff. You know?  

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Yeah. Well, he points out that Elijah   and they who he was   he's saying that Elijah was talking about these guys. These are the guys that were dressed in white robes   at the temple   facing the rising sun.  

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Yeah.  

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These were the Essenes.  

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Yeah. And I think Christ caught them. Right? Didn't he say something about it?  

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Because they were Well, then the the the those are mostly Sagittarius and and and and Pharisees, but   the scenes   I always used to understand them as even more conservative than those two groups, and that's why they had their, like, outlying   communities because they really didn't get along because they didn't think those guys went far enough.   But Right. You read Gary Wayne's version of them,   they   I don't know if they had members in in   in that in those   organizations   during Jesus' time or not. I I'm sure Gary's got it covered somewhere, but,   these guys were   really far pretty far off there.  



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