In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles delves into the intricacies of the tax system, focusing on the importance of understanding one's legal status and the implications of being a national versus a citizen of the United States. The discussion highlights the process of changing one's status through affidavits and the significance of notifying the IRS and the Secretary of State. Roger emphasizes the need for due diligence in handling tax-related documents and the potential pitfalls of not understanding the legal language and processes involved.
Additionally, the episode explores the concept of self-help remedies, such as liens and levies, and their historical roots in the Babylonian merchant code. Roger explains how these remedies are embedded in contracts and the importance of recognizing them to avoid legal complications. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of these systems, including their historical development and application in modern law, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of these complex legal mechanisms.
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Tax the rich, feed the poor, and tell they're on
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As would we, Alvin. As would we. We're trying. Gonna take another stab at it here on the Wednesday Wednesday edition of the Radio Ranch. It's, August 6, clipping right through the last month of the summer. Radio Ranch, the name of our little get together for personal reasons, and Roger Sales, your host. So let's see. On Wednesday, have we accumulated any more, associates, or are we still, back to the basics, Paul, here?
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Well, we're kinda back to the basics. We've got, radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy, across the pond. I had a nice discussion with you. Excuse me. I I had a nice discussion with him yesterday afternoon. We were talking about, trying to locate the, the attorney general general of Great Britain. You know, we're trying to actually nail down a a mailing address for the guy. That was kind of fun. And we're also on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we're on Global Voice Radio Network, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Links to, Eurofocal and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs.com, where you'll also find links to free conference call and you'll find the phone numbers so you can actually dial in to the show, or you can connect with an app, a smartphone, a computer. I mean, however, actually, if you if you're calling from a telephone with a cellular provider that charges you out of network or long distance charges for calling conference lines, just text call me to the dial in number (609) 663-1976, and the system will call you back. And then you can camp out as long as you want. It's an inbound call, and they can't charge you a dime.
Gotta love
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that. Morning, Ross. Yep. That's pretty slick. Morning, Paul. My sense is as that if you the first thing you ought to do over there with the Brits because here's the deal. These people always are they're very repetitive. If they find something that works, they just repeat it and cookie cut it. Right. So our laws are a little bit different. Structures are a little bit different. Names and labels are a little bit different. But the first thing they need to find out on is who issues passports. K. Because that should be should be the key to all the laws as opposed to, finding out who the attorney general is as you go because that one will handle anything underneath. But then you do need to find out who is the,
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head of the laws over there. But I'll bet you they'll find their answers,
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with who issues passports for the initial thrust, if you will, of, removing yourself. So that's what I'd I'd suggest they look into. One of these days, I'll probably get a chance to talk to Hannah maybe and give her some of this guidance that we've learned through, you know, the hard way, trial and error.
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But, actually, what we were able to find was we were able to find The UK visa and citizenship application services. We didn't think that was it. UK visas in immigration Liverpool, but we also found citizenship department of internal affairs London office, and that's the one that we guess to be the, lord of the manor. Okay.
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Well, cool. Well, yeah, who once again, the passport has got something to do with this because I'm sure it's the same in England. They're under Vatel's Law of Nations too. Mhmm. And, they have to accurately portray the person they're presenting to a foreign country. So Mhmm. Just suggestions. Just suggestions. Anyway, I hope I'm glad I told Paul when we were talking privately that, of course, he has he lost his wife, fairly recently, a few months back. She had dementia, So it wasn't it it made his life extremely demanding because he was having to do all the cooking, take care of her.
You know, he's good. The boys are old enough to take care of themselves, early twenties, but still puts a strain on the family. And so I told Paul, I know you loved her and all that. And, but, she is in a better place, and and you are freed up now. And I think that getting through the grief part of that, everybody has to grieve on no matter you know, I knew people that the spouses hated each other, and when they got a divorce, it was really hard on them. You know? But that, it was better for him. He grieved. He had a couple of months to get through that, and I could hear the excitement and enthusiasm in his voice. And he was reenergized and had a project that had substance and importance and all the things this project does.
And, that it had kinda given him a new life after her demise, and he agreed with that. And, so I think it's a good thing for Paul and everybody else over there that and we've had success here for many years, understand the system basically and how it works when they take over a country and their similarities there. I've I've seen them, studied them for so many years, Paul. They always repeat success. They always repeat success even to their own detriment, actually, because they have to do it that way because it's always worked. And they risk if they deviate running into things they've never had to run into before.
So in an ironic sense, they're tied to their success, which becomes a Achilles heel of sorts because it makes them predictable. So, that's, you know, my 2¢ on it that I've noodled through all these years. Good morning, audience. Hope everybody's doing good. Middle of the week, we don't have Hi, Roger. Well, that must be Gigi, I'm guessing. Good morning, Gigi. Yes. We do. Do we have Mark? Hi. Hi. Hope you're doing good this morning. Do we have Mark with us by any chance? I was hoping he was gonna show today, but I don't know what his situation is with his parents. So we had and I didn't reach out to him. So I'll just see if he, shows up. What's, what's on your mind? I think he's emailed.
What's on your mind this morning? He still hasn't emailed me back, so he's probably Well, he's been Well, he's yeah. He's swamped. You know? He's got elderly parents. Yeah. He's gotta try and take care of both of them and, you know, plus all the stuff he normally does. He told he said a while back, his mother can't even cook anymore. So he's having to now do the cooking like Paul was having to do. Uh-huh. So, so he's, got his hands full. Anyway, how are you doing this morning, Gigi?
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I am wonderful. I wanted to address something because I know there's a lot of new people coming on your show and, from, Todd's group. And, I wanted if you can briefly, like, for the new people that's coming in, it might be some new people on, but if you can go over, like, the affidavit and the cover letter because I think there's a lot of confusion about the cover letter and the affidavit because I know some people are, they're simple. They are, right, they what they're doing is they're getting the, cover letter notarized
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and the affidavit. No. You don't have to do that. Yeah. So It's just listen. It's so simple. And I understand you're new. You're scared of these guys. You you're afraid if you put one comma in the wrong place, it's not gonna work. That's all wrong. K? First of all, that's all wrong. Yeah. It it so it's very simple. The affidavit, I suggest you use the one on our website. It's airtight, but you can do whatever you want. You can use the one sentence from the, state department website over there on the Mhmm. Certificate of noncitizen nationality, IGG. Do solemnly swear my intent to be a national, not a citizen of The United States? You can make it that simple.
The other one, if you Yeah. It's a little expanded, a little more specific, you can use that. Whatever floats your boat as they say. Okay? Right. Now I would say get it notarized, and then you send it with a cover Well, it's best that you get it notarized. You don't have to. It can be sent in as not an affidavit, but a declaration. Either one will work. The affidavit is just a little bit better because they have to rebut it. They have to rebut your facts and sign it under penalty of perjury. They can, and they won't ever do that. So it just it's actual an affidavit is considered properly formed, properly executed, properly notarized, presented to the proper authority, and unrebutted stands as the highest truth of of fact and law. K?
Mhmm. You're the king of the mountain. Alright? So that's why we suggest you do that. You don't have to do that. I've used here I renewed my passport about a year and a half ago, and I just used a declaration. Because down here, notaries are lawyers, And I have to pay some of them $80 to go get it notarized. And then then they want apostilles, which are copies in English of what you have in Spanish. And all that is just a nightmare. You know? And so, easier to just do a declaration, send it in. It worked. Alright? Now the cover letter Okay.
The cover letter is quite simple. At the top of it, if you're talking depending on what you're talking to. If you're putting it to the secretary of state, all you need to put at the top of your cover letter is legal lawful notice. Capital letters, I'd suggest. K? Legal lawful numbers. You send it to the secretary of state, mister Rubio, and it's very, very simple language. It's not complex. It's, you know, you're a layman. Right? Please find the enclosed citizenship affidavit or my enclosed citizenship, evidence. Excuse me. Not affidavit. Evidence. Please Mhmm. Correct all records as to my new status.
Something like that. We used to say put it in your administrative file, and they go, we don't have administrative files anymore. Well, you do it all digitally. So you're just telling them to correct all the records they've got they can access as to my new status. And thank you. And you send it to them. Now there's nothing difficult about that.
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Absolutely.
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Okay? Yep. And they can't rebut it. They can't deny it. So they have to stand mute, which means they accept it. And in the big picture, it means they, actually, they, convict themselves because they can't deny it. There's the facts. So this is here. It's been hidden. It you know? And and so, technically, they convict themselves by not being able to say anything and deny it, don't they?
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Yeah.
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Okay. That's all there is to it? Because they always acquiesce anyway. Well, they, yeah, generally. Now if you're gonna take that after you've sent it to the secretary of state, and now you're gonna notify the federal agencies that you wanna notify that that's been done. Mhmm. The first one that generally people always want is IRS. Right?
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So Yep.
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You take that affidavit, a copy of it, and you do another cover letter to the IRS. And at the top, you put big large letters, if you can, legal, lawful notice. And underneath that, specifically for the IRS, you put not to be considered or construed as a filing. Filing. Mhmm. Filing. Like, you're filing a ten forty four? Right. Mhmm. And the reason for that is they haven't done this. They've threatened it a time or two, to, whip a $5,000 frivolous filing penalty on you for giving them notice on a legal document. And that statement is so they that curtails that objection because it's not a violent. It's a it's a notice. It's a service.
K? And then you push something simple like, please find the enclosed citizenship evidence now on file with the secretary of state of The United States Of America. Please, correct please, oh, what's the word I want? Please, adjust your records accordingly. Something to that. Mhmm. Yeah. Nothing hard. Okay. And then you now but the new thing, the new twist here, I think we should do for everybody's benefit rather than fight this battle later, is put the state your state taxing authority in as a carbon copy or what's called a cc at the bottom. They do. The Michigan taxing authority, whatever it is, and you would send them a exact same copy of what you're sending to the IRS.
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Gotcha.
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Okay? So there's the VINs done. Unless you got other. Now if you got other ones now let's say the example that you're trying you want to build a pond in the back of your property, and the EPA says it's some kind of a water whatever, one of these stupid ass agencies and they're crap. Well, if you want that agency put on notice, then you probably should do the head guy in DC. And I'll cc at the bottom the regional guy for that agency because they all have regional guys. And whoever the local guy is, that's the, local agent, especially if he's dinging you. So if it were going off in one of those other situations, you'd wanna make sure you get everybody. I don't think that's necessary at IRS.
Just send it to the head guy. Might be just you can do the same thing with the other agencies too. I mean, we're plowing new ground here. Nobody's ever done this before. There are no set set of instructions. We're kinda having to make this up as we go along. And when we find some hole that we didn't understand or realize, we try and incorporate it just like I told you of notifying the state taxing authority on the IRS thing. We should have been doing that for a long time. Okay?
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So that's all we need. For your state.
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Alright. Now do you wanna go over to the local side? You're just doing the feds now. That's the feds. Okay? Right. So in Michigan, you're going to do another letter, cover letter, short and simple, and you're gonna send it to your attorney general, miss Mhmm. Whatever name is, whatever you assume.
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It's Nitzel.
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Nitzel. Whatever your name is. Nesel. Yeah. Nesel is something. Mhmm. So you're gonna wanna put it on there. At the top of that letter, you're gonna wanna put legal waffle notice.
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Yep.
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And underneath that, you're gonna wanna put this phrase. Notice to the principal is notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal.
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Mhmm.
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Now what you're doing is you're locking all these people together under the laws of agency. Like, real estate agents are under, insurance agents are under, the federal government's under. Anybody that's in a relationship called agency is under the laws of agency. Mhmm. And that statement locks them together. I'll explain why in a minute. So then you send that to miss Nessel. Please find the, enclosed my enclosed citizenship evidence now on file with the secretary of state of The United States Of America. Please adjust your records and your agents' records or let's see. Please adjust any records accordingly.
Mhmm. According to my new status or however you wanna word it. Doesn't have to be fancy. Doesn't have to be long. You don't have to put all this sui juris and pro persona and all the other patriot stuff. Don't don't put that in there. You don't need to. I know you know it. I know you spent time studying, but you don't have to wave that flag right here. You wanna keep this as absolutely simple as possible. K? Absolutely. Good. So then you're gonna cc at the bottom of that one. You're gonna cc your local sheriff. You're gonna cc your local police chief if you have one.
Mhmm. You're going to cc the whoever the public, the, prosecutor is in your area that dockets cases, speeding, whatever. Okay. The guy that puts that from being a charge and a ticket onto the docket of a court. So you wanna put him on notice. Now
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Okay.
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Most of them are they're not gonna know what what they're receiving. Because remember that. Mhmm. We can't impute that into them because they just don't teach a lot of this stuff in law schools anymore. K? Right. Because they think everybody's over here under their thumb.
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K?
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So, what is happening there, because you've locked them in with the laws of agency, if your local police chief, one of his deputies gives you a ticket, and he's been put on notice or his boss has Mhmm. Then they're acting outside of their delegated responsibilities. Mhmm. You see that? They've got they've all they've got this job, but they can only act within certain parameters and and screw with people that they have jurisdiction over. Well, they don't have that with you anymore. So if they come and do that, now not only do they, this is theoretical, lose their cloak of immunity, but because you've tied them together into the laws of agency, so does miss Nestle.
And you should be able to sue them theoretically in their personal capacity, and they can't throw up. I was just doing my job. No. You won't. K? So that that's why you do that. It's really relatively simple. I know if you're brand new and you're just getting hit with all of this stuff, a lot of this is overwhelming. But really, when you get into it, it's very simple. I mean, all they've done here is they've made and switch. They set up. They took the black man. They took him off the Southern plantation. They put him on the federal plantation under a new slavery scheme, and they've tricked you into being him and admitting to being him. Tricked. That's all that's going on here.
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Yep. The switcheroo. They did a bait and reverse.
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It's a bait and switch. Mhmm. You know, it's really easy. Don't let all the other things, the accoutrements that they put in there, like all this word, the opposite definitions and hidden all of these labels and stuff and change the label on all these same things. All that's just to confuse you. When you get past all that, it's incredibly simple how they put us into it, how they tricked us into agreeing with it, and how easy it is to get out of it. I mean, it's just sitting here. It amazes me all these years down the road because I've thought like you guys too. I had to fight through all this for years. And when you get past it, you look back and go, damn, there ain't nothing to this.
It's just a little trick. Yeah. It's just a it's just like on the first time I heard the word equivocation and went to Webster's 1828 law dictionary, gave the definition. And at the bottom, he wrote notes on that particular version that I was looking at. And it said, this trick is often used by non Christians to fool Christians. How much as simpler can you get? So that, anybody have any anybody have any questions on that process? I'm gonna assume no. Okay. So, well, what else have you got for us this morning, Gigi? Nothing?
Roger. Well, there's Larry. He's always got something. Let me just finish up with Gigi. Gigi, do that take care of you, sweetie? Silence deems consent. Okay. See, we apply those principles here on the show. Larry, what you got this morning? Yeah. Thank you so much. You're welcome, sweetie. What you got this morning, Larry?
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Yeah. Good morning. Would you, agree that what you just described to this new student is known in the legal definitions as a unilateral declaration?
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Oh, yeah. I guess that would fit it. Yeah.
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And so would you agree that it's very important that one makes that unilateral declaration to the correct person in order to change their citizenship status? If you don't
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correct it the right person, then they're not gonna recognize it. Period. That's what stopped John and Glenn right there was they didn't know about the secretary of state. They told us to file it in the property records office, and the IRS came back with $500 frivolous filings. Penalties is 5,000 now. I got three of them.
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K? So Yeah. That's exactly what happened. Not important. What's
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the It's not important. It's mandatory.
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Right. That's exactly what happened to Wesley Snipes. Are you familiar with his story?
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Kinda. Barnes was his attorney.
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Yeah. The the IRS, came back and said that he cannot just make a unilateral declaration because he was claiming during the the the court sessions, I guess, in his in his documents, that he was a nonresident alien, and he was not, liable for, you know, many of the the IRS codes and regulations. And they came back and said that he was not allowed to make a unilateral declaration. And I think that's because, like your teachers, he was attempting to make that declaration to the IRS,
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and he didn't, you know, he didn't make that declaration to the correct person. Would you agree with that? What about the copper moonshine still cite over there? I don't remember the case. It's an appellate level case unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States. The IRS can go on to assessment and collections. Well, he didn't prove it. He just made a statement. The only way you can prove it is to go to the lord of the manner who's in charge of all matters concerning citizenship and tell him very simply in one sentence, no. I'm not that. I'm this. Once that's been done, they would had to recognize in court.
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Hey, Roger. It's William, I guess.
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Hey, William. But, let's okay. Let's you got something to add on to this?
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Yeah. Except for the op operation of law. Okay. That's the piece of the
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Right. You've got to do this lawfully and legally.
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Yeah. The the missus Robinson letter says you can't make a unilateral declaration
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except by operation of law. Well, there you go. And operational law is going to the right guy and giving it to him. I I maintain I've told you a number of times, if John and Glenn would have and, you know, you could go back and say they should have known this. Okay. But I understand they were totally focused on the tax issue. They didn't look at stuff like this and, unfortunately. And if that would have happened back then, I believe we'd live in a different country because they can't stop this.
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As you like to say, Roger, is Mattel's law of nations operable enough?
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Yeah. Right. So, anyway, that's, what happened with Wesley Snipes right there, Larry. And still Barnes doesn't know all this. You know, maybe one of these days, we'll cross paths with Barnes. We could get a couple of these attorneys, Tom Rentz, Barnes, Calendar. We get a couple of these attorneys on this. Man, it's they make our work a lot easier. So what else? Hey, William. Good morning, by the way. Good morning. Good morning. William is the audience. William is the, flyboy that flies people around and, had one of his, clients as a magistrate judge. And he starts taking my stuff and using it on the judge.
And they ask him what the legal meaning of person was, and a sitting magistrate judge didn't know. A sitting magistrate judge did not know the legal concept behind the word person, folks. Right, William?
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Yep. That's exactly what happened.
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So you can't impute with these people you're dealing with that they understand this. Hell, they they're they're more functionally illiterate in some areas of law than you are already. So this is what they've been doing. They've been hiding all these things like they do. I I like to say, I don't remember what tribe it was. There's one of those tribes out west like the Sioux or the Blackfeet or somebody, and they were expert at tracking. And, for instance, they would creep up very slowly on a hill to look over into the valley to see the cavalry. And then when they did that, they would turn around and have a brush or a switch, and they would sweep out their footprints.
That's what these guys do. Roger? Yes. Larry.
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Yeah. And just to highlight again just how important sending an affidavit to the secretary of state is, here's what the, the claim was of Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes was, convicted in 2008 on three misdemeanor courts or, excuse me, three misdemeanor counts of willful failure to file income tax returns for the years 1999 to 02/2001, though he was acquitted of felony charges for conspiracy and filing, filing false claims. During his defense, his tax arguments were influenced by, quote, tax protester, end quote, theories, including the idea that he was not required to file returns as a sovereign citizen or nonresident alien.
And secondly, the revocation of election theory, which suggests that a person can revoke their election to be taxed under title 26, the Internal Revenue Code. And here's what the court said, the legal reality is the revocation of election is a theory promoted by tax protesters based on the idea that one can opt out of income tax by revoking their election to be treated as a taxpayer. This argument has been rejected in every federal court that has reviewed it. It holds no legal merit because, and there's three reasons that the IRS gives, US tax liability is based on objective facts, which include income, citizenship, and domicile.
And then secondly, you cannot unelect statutory obligations by unilateral declaration. And thirdly, the courts classify such arguments as frivolous, and, and penalties often apply.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, all all all it was missing there was he didn't send it to the secretary of state. If that's if he just sent it and known that since the secretary of state of The US, a, he he none of that would have applied to him. They wouldn't have come after him. Because, see, they don't like to lose on those kind of technicalities. I'll show you another one in there. They I don't know if Barnes pursued it or not. I believe it was already out in the community, and that's willful. Wilful. The Cheeks. The Cheeks, decision from the nineties.
Cheeks was a airline pilot who challenged the taxes on that aspect of being willful, willful failure to file. And he said, I studied all this stuff, and I I don't see where I've got an obligation to file. And by golly, he won at the Supreme Court. And so everybody a couple of law firms, everybody wanted to go do the cheat defense, the willfulness defense. And, but that's still out there. That's still good law. But that's something I don't think it sounds like Barnes, went after. Anyway, all of that stuff in this discussion, IRS, they take your house, they take your car, they garnish your wages, all that. Well, they can only do that if they've got jurisdiction. If you've done this affidavit and put the IRS on notice, they don't have any more jurisdiction, and they can't fight it.
But it was nobody understood. It's the feudal system, and you gotta go through the secretary of state. That's all. That's all. So okay. Thank you, Larry. Poor old Wesley. Anyway, that's another one of those tax things. And you if you're out talking to people, folks, and you're new, and you're going to get this objection. Oh, I know I had a friend who lost his house. Oh, this, that, and the other. Well, that's probably true. I don't have any argument with that, but they just didn't know what they were doing. This is a very complex little issue. And, but once you know this secretary of state thing, it's the key to everything. I wish Mark was here today.
It's just like he says, it just everything's answered. Bam. Okay? With just understanding the national thing and how to change your status, and I thought it was very interesting. I've thought about it another a time or two more. Mentioned it yesterday that that person Mike was telling us about was, said the only person in the state that's got the authority to deal with you now is this, attorney general. I think that's true. That's pretty cool. So they look. They were never expecting anybody to figure this out. You can tell for the new people. I know we've got it on the website somewhere. It's in the book.
It's a piece of paper found in Woodrow Wilson's, belongings after he died from House, his handler, colonel House, who lays the whole scheme out. He says at the very first, we will well, I can't quote this exactly. I'm paraphrasing. We will use them as sureties by invoking the ancient pledge. First sentence. What's the ancient pledge? Todd, you got any idea? Gigi, you got any ideas with the ancient pledges?
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Good morning, Roger. No. But I'm ready to listen and learn.
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It's called Yeah. Meet him with Roger.
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It's called the oath of fealty. You can go look it up on the web, e f e a l t y. You can go look it up on the Internet if you wanna. Go search up Monty Python's holy grail. He's got an example of an oath of filthy in that movie. It's the old oath on how you volunteered into voluntary servitude. You'd go to the lord of the manor, say, you know, I'm things are tough down there in Old England. The coal mine's getting pretty dirty. It's dangerous. Well, I've been trying to look for a better way for mama and the kids. You got another 40 acres and a mule for me? That's basically what it is.
And he go, yeah. I got one over there for you, but you gotta go through this oath. It's a contract. It's called a parole, p a r o l e, contract. That means it's, oral. K? And so, they get all the serfs of the manor around them in a circle, so they're witnesses. They're witnesses to a contract. And you, being the person coming into servitude, would get in front of the lord of the manor and kneel on both knees. That's very important. You only kneel on both knees to God. You kneel on both knees to in front of the lord of the manor, he would stand over you. You would put your hands on your head as if you were praying. He would place his hands over your hands, and you would say a pledge to give your body and all your worldly possessions to the lord of the manor as property.
That's why you gave him your possessions because as property, he has a property right in you. And because he's got a property right in you, you don't own anything. That's why in your car, you've got a certificate of title. It's not the title. It's a certificate of title. That's why your house, even if you've got it paid off and it's not off the property rolls and you don't pay your property taxes, they can sell it on the courthouse steps. Tax sale. It's because you've got a property right on you and you can't own things. K?
And so you would state that, and the witnesses would be there, the other serfs on the manor, and you have entered an oral contract with the lord of the manor. And then from then on, you and mama are both property, and so any children that you have are born into the same condition. Just like if you have a bull and a cow out in the back and they produce a calf, that calf's yours. Same principle. Okay? And this particular contract is a silent contract except for when you entered it, and it runs silently generationally. So you can see when you get your arms around this why they like the feudal system so much.
Because they own you. K? And so if you yeah. Yes, ma'am. I just said control. They want control of everyone. Well, yeah. They want control of everything. You know? It's like Rockefeller said he said, I don't wanna own everything, but I wanna control everything. Same thing. So, now you're in this silent contract that runs generationally. Here's where we come in. Because it's voluntary, at any point, let's say, eight generations later, you got a good lord of the manor and the people that are his serfs like it and he treats them good, they got no reason to leave.
But it goes like seven or eight generations. The lord of the manor changes, and the new one's a a badass, and all you have to do is go to him and tell him you're breaking the contract to leave. That's the secretary of state. On a big manor, they'd have different lords over different aspects of the manor. So you could say that the secretary of state is the lord of the federal manor overseeing all matters concerning citizenship, since there's two. K? So that's where all that comes from, and that's what that sentence was saying. We will secure them. We'll make them sureties by invoking the ancient pledge.
And then he goes on down and he spells out what they're planning on doing. And at the end, he says, well, if one or two people ever figure it out, we've got plausible deniability. This is colonel House. See, they never expected anybody to figure this out. That was back, over a hundred years ago. That was back in Woodrow Wilson's time in the nineteen teens. So, there you go. So you're volunteering yourself. You pledge your body and your worldly goods. I was going into this the other day, and I got sidetracked. If you go to Black's Law Dictionary, Todd, I know you said you had one of those.
If you go to Black's Law, what version do you have, Todd? Do you know?
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I have the eighth edition, Roger. But from my understanding, the first four is the better ones because I guess they started doing some fancy stuff after that. Well, they changed a lot of stuff after Westlaw bought it. You I would say the green cover, the sixth
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was considered about the best edition. If you can you you probably can't find any of the other ones. You can find them online. But, the sixth edition with the green cover is very good. They started changing stuff in the seventh. So I know they've done a lot of tricks to the eighth, but they won't have messed with this. And if you wanna go in and look in Black's Law Dictionary in your eighth edition there, Todd, you go back to the v's and you look at villain. Now we call it in England a villain. And but because this is from William the Conqueror bringing over the French and all the other stuff that they imposed on England, it's spelled v I l l e I n.
V I l l e I n. And, no. The women were called knaves, by the way. And, if you look under, there's a a number of different types of villains. And if you look under the one we think that they're, using here is called a villain regardant, r e g a r d a n t, I think. And if you look at that definition, it will say a villain attached to the land property, attached to the land, and transferrable by deed. Like, when somebody sells a bond, your birth certificate that's attached to it is the deed so you can sell bonds and transfer the villainage. See?
So there it is right there in black and white. That's the ancient pledge.
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And that's why they were Roger, I'm sorry. It's tough. You're you're very good. I'm try I'm in my black's law right now. You said Billine. Is it v I l l e I n?
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Should be.
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Unless they've changed that. You want me to read what the eight
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Well, yeah, you can read it. I mean, there should be a number of different types of villains, and then there's one overall once you read what it says. Oh, my
[00:43:52] Unknown:
I over the eight, ten years, I turned the page, and I got all the different one villainage. I got them all highlighted.
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Well, regarding Okay. We may be wrong. It's just a stab. I think regarding is the one you're looking for, but all of them have little different characteristics. And some of them you couldn't sell off of the land. But if they sold the land, the villain would run with the land. So there's a lot of stipulations
[00:44:19] Unknown:
like that. A a so a a villain in gross. So a villain who was annexed to a person of the Lord and transferred by deed from one owner to another. Yeah. Billing in gross. Very similar.
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Anyways okay. Go ahead. Well, I'm just saying the reason they like this is because they control everything and they own everything, and now they can take this principle of them having a property right on you. That's the basis of their whole system. They come in and use the birth certificate as a warehouse receipt. We went over the hospital procedure on how that happens. Thanks to Brian Howard, who was with us yesterday for a few minutes. It's the one that found that. So they take that warehouse receipt, and they they take that CUSIP number at the bottom and attach it to a bond. And the reason they use that CUSIP number, in my understanding anyway, is that routes the payment to the coupon to the bondholder.
So the birth certificate is used in that manner hold just a second. It's used in that manner, and then then they go through the whole bond issue thing. And that's where you're attached to the land. You're a piece of property, and now you are attached to the future of the country, and that is by deed. And the deed is the warehouse receipt because a deed denotes ownership, doesn't it? Doesn't it?
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Yes.
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Okay. Well, there it is right there, right in front of you. And the other reason they do it is because now with a property right on you, they can now build up an administrative state of administrative agencies that take the law that's passed by the congress and reinterpret it in their subject matter jurisdiction. And then they what's called promulgate regulations, and they put them out there. You can go look at them in the federal register. That's the legal organ of the USA. And go look at all these regulations that all these agencies are promulgating to apply well, some of them apply to the serves, not all of them.
So now who was saying Roger a minute ago? Is that Todd or Dave? It's Dave. Good morning, Rod. Okay. Good morning, Dave. What do you got? Well, I'm sure
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I'm sure we all remember the villain, villain, Snidely Whiplash. Right? The banker, mortgagor, who stole the property and tried to tie Nell to the to the railroad tracks and and, what's his name? Dudley Do Right saves the day.
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That was Canadian, didn't it? Dudley Do Right? Yeah.
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Yeah. Dudley Do Right. The mountain police.
[00:47:18] Unknown:
Dudley Do Right. The mountain police. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's a lot of sinister things in the background. You can see the the holy grail in some of those things, you know. When the the gal has got a a burning house on the edge of the cliff and it's on fire, and the only way out is through snidely whiplash, the evil guy. Come here, little girl. I'd like to give you some candy. Well, that's the holy grail. You don't know it. We haven't explained it yet, but that's what we're dealing with here. K. So, Todd, did that get your answer?
[00:47:57] Unknown:
Many, answer I'm not sure I had a question, but I had the it definitely was beautiful to hear all of that. It all makes sense. Absolutely. Hey. I want to tell you can I tell you one thing, Raj? Of course. I just got some good news. Okay. So I I I'm under the understanding, and I actually had to, change it in in my system from, talking to others and trying to go through all the system. But, the point of, after sending the affidavit, waiting like it's a package and so forth, I know that's important, but but the minute the the attendant at the post office, receives your certified mail of the declaration, you are free. But I just got a notification that it has arrived in Washington, DC.
[00:48:38] Unknown:
There you go. So you got your green card back. Well, you don't have to wait on all that. And the only reason that we've changed that, if you don't have any skeletons in your closet, like the guy from California or, dare I say, like Gigi, then you you send it in naked and wait about twenty days or so. That's just to give them some time to circulate that paper internally. We know bureaucracies don't work fast nor efficiently per se. And so you wait a little bit, then you apply for the passport. Now if they reject you because they found a skeleton in your closet, you can say, well, hold it. That doesn't apply to me because I sent this in two weeks ago to the secretary of state, and they didn't object. So it's on file or somewhere up there.
And so you can't charge me with that. At least here, if you do that, you've got some skeletons in your closet, you've got grounds for an administrative appeal. If you don't have that, you've got no grounds for an administrative appeal. They can keep your money, don't have to send you crap, then revoke your open passport. So that's why that's in there. Got it. I don't think that doesn't apply to very many people, but that's why it's in there. Yes. Was that Bob there that I heard? Speaking.
[00:50:01] Unknown:
Hey, Bob. Yeah. To add a little bit of color to the word villain, I'd encourage you to go in, not you necessarily, the listener. Go into the etymology of the word. It's related to the it's the same root as villa, village, and could roughly be translated as farm servant. So I suspect, and this is just my theorizing, I just enjoy reading into things, you know, not reading into it, but trying to interpret where words came from, how the meaning did evolve. But you can see the possibility of the upper echelon looking at a farm servant as being, you know, crass and crude and rude and vulgar to the point that that came to denote somebody of low character and sinister motives.
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Okay. Well, we certainly don't identify with that.
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Hey, Walter.
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I just love the knowledge and and all the graduates and all the new people that you meet. We can't do this alone. I just love the camaraderie. It's just beautiful. Thank you guys all so much.
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Hey, Roger. Who is that? Rod. Hold on. There are two, three people I've never spoken before. Who was that that just spoke?
[00:51:27] Unknown:
That was
[00:51:29] Unknown:
Todd. Oh, it was Todd? Okay. Yeah. I don't recognize his voice. I'm not totally identified with y'all's voices yet. Okay. Paul, you were trying to assist a couple other people work too, but they
[00:51:42] Unknown:
go ahead, Paul. Bill, Vil is the the root of villager, and, that would be citizen. And lien, denotes ownership or, servitude. So a lien is a citizen With a lien. Slave. With a lien with a lien on him. Right.
[00:52:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it could be. You sound like Chris Cave now. That's the the way he his mind works. The way his mind works was very unique. Those of you who Roger. Identify. Yeah. Yes, Larry.
[00:52:20] Unknown:
Yeah. The I wanna explain just just like you did a little while ago, the importance of sending in a naked affidavit first, because there's a couple of reasons why the passport or the secretary of state or the department of state on which is what the, passport agency is under, they may reject your application due to criminal history. So it says individuals with certain felony convictions, such as international drug trafficking, murder, or other severe crimes, may be denied a passport, especially if they are on probation, parole, or have outstanding warrants. Second reason is unpaid child support. Those owing more than 2,500 in child support payments can be placed on a passport denial list. Third reason is defaulted loans or debts.
Outstanding federal loans or debts, including tax debt exceeding $50,000 can also lead to passport denial. And finally, court orders or legal restrictions. If a court order prohibits departure from The US or the jurisdiction of the court or if there's an extradition request, a passport application can be denied.
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Yeah. The first two are the most common. They just passed that back when I can't it didn't take effect too many years ago, the 50,000. There's one important thing that wasn't in what you just read. The 50,000 has to be in collections. Not in a court case, not in some administrative tribunal, in collections, which means it's gone through the whole thing. And now that's in collections, and they can't collect it. I have read or heard, I don't remember which, that one third of your taxes go to the bondholders. I'll show you where you can verify that.
One third goes to administrative expenses because they you notice that you'll never find the IRS in a federal building. They always rent their facilities. That's because they're foreign agents. I can prove that too. And, the other third are uncollectible. But if it's in collections, they can revoke they I think that I heard when that took effect on January, a few years back, that they revoked 250,000 passports in one day. People that had these tax, obligations. Now those people can go to the embassy, and they'll give them a passport, but it's only one way, and that's back.
Okay? So, that's part of it. And, what was the other part? I mean anyway, that's, the child support. And I had a guy here in Ecuador that contacted me about that, And he's, you know yeah. Look. You you fathered these children. You you you're not gonna be their daddy. At least you need to support them. So, anyway, those are two, two things they added along the way. So they can do that now because of those reasons.
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Can I say GG?
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Of course, please. Yes. GG again,
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I believe.
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So what he was just saying, far as criminal convictions and stuff like that, It has to be a conviction.
[00:55:53] Unknown:
No. I I I don't know. It didn't it didn't before in the one incident I dealt with this because the guy had drunk driving charges. Now I don't know. I don't get it in-depth enough with him to know if those had been turned into a conviction or they were still open charges. I just don't know. What Larry said was conviction. It may be just open charges. K? And I I don't know for sure. That's what I was playing. Just be safe department one day. It's like brother Dave Gardner. You probably never heard of him. He was an old southern comedian back when they used to put that stuff on records. He's out of Memphis, I think. And he was in an audience, and somebody like you asked him a question. And he and he he said, well, I don't know.
And and you said, well, but I thought you knew everything. And he said, well, I do know everything, but I don't know that. Yeah.
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Well, I wanna convictions because I got my passport. So
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Oh, okay. Now somebody who who's saying that right there?
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That's Tony. Tony Tony. Tony the wizard.
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Hey, Tony. Did you had just charges and you still got your passport? It wasn't a conviction? No. I had convictions, closed cases. I didn't have any open cases,
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but I had, had a convicted I was a convicted felon back in the
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day. Well, that's okay. As long as you serve your time, they can't deny you that. Okay? Now realize pardon me? I'm just Alright. Hold on. Talk right in your phone. Tony, talk right in your phone and slow down just a little bit. I wanna hear what you gotta say. Okay? Yeah. You had you were convicted. You served whatever they gave you and you got out of that. Correct? Yep. Well, they can't deny you because you've served your time. I think it's when you've got open charges that have not been decided yet. You haven't gone through and done your quote, unquote, retribution. And I think it's that. Okay? Which is very rare.
I this Gigi's only the second one we've ever had with this in in fifteen years. Okay? So this doesn't happen. Yeah. So
[00:58:08] Unknown:
right. So my question was, you were saying for my situation that once I send those notices out, wait a while, maybe twenty one days. Right? So this way, if they
[00:58:24] Unknown:
You've got to go I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told you the other day, first time this come up. You've got to go back to wherever this started and find out and try and get that cleared up. Because if you do that again, they're just gonna run it again. Now you might could, if you wanna try this, you could go back because here's another theory. You know, when we did the little r plus d equals r thing the other day, that little formula is so important. Well, see now, when you send your affidavit in, especially the cold one, you're no longer that legal personality, are you? See, your legal personality up to now has been I received rights under the fourteenth amendment and I owe correlative duties. Well, now that you filed this affidavit, you got a different legal personality. Right?
[00:59:14] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Because I'm coming in at the on our different status.
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You know, that might work, Gigi. It might work. I don't know. It's a very rare set of searches. I'm trying to see Roger because I already sent it out. It'll be down Friday. Hold on, Gigi. Just a second. You pipe down the whistlers, and we don't have anybody to say goodbye to today. Right, Paul? We don't. Alright, Gigi. Go ahead.
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I was saying I went on ahead and sent out the cold one to the state already. Fantastic. It'll be there on Friday. Uh-huh. So I I'm just I'm not operating
[00:59:51] Unknown:
as a fiction. I'm operating as the living woman. So Well, you weren't a fiction before. That. You won't hold it. Hold it. Let's get things straight. You weren't a fiction before you were a serf.
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Right.
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Okay? That's not a fiction. It is real. And you agreed to it every time they ask you throughout your adult life. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Yes. Yes. And you signed something. You were involuntary servitude. You weren't a corporation. You weren't a dead entity with capital letters. You weren't any of that crap. You were a serf.
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Correct.
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Okay. Dodge.
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Comment. Hold on. There's Paul. Yep.
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You are no longer the authorized representative of the person created without your consent. Okay.
[01:00:47] Unknown:
No. They did get that was created, but they did No. It was created without your consent. It was created. Every time. But you agreed to it every time they ever asked you. Yeah. Because they never told you what you were agreeing to. Well, that's right. And there's the fraud. That's why they gotta recognize this. One of the reasons.
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Okay. No. They did create a
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fictional entity, and it was people's unknowingly consenting to be responsible for something that they'd never created that gets people in all this trouble. Yep. So you need to get your your natural person and your legal person separated again.
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So they've done that. She's done that. I think you said you already sent it. Right?
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Yep. I sent it. So once it gets there on Friday, I'm gonna send out the other one to this,
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while we have them drawn up to send out Wait. Wait. Wait. Yeah. Wait a few days, and let's see. We're gonna go back and apply. You don't have to do this passport thing. K? It's not a requirement. Mhmm. It's just that that's the highest form of identification issued by the federal government. And if you apply for it and include this affidavit in the package, now they have to recognize you as your legal status and issue that ID attached to your new status. That's why it's important. K? You could go your whole rest of your life and not have to have one, but you want one. And I encourage everybody to at least get most people only need the card. It's $30. Why the hell wouldn't you wanna do that?
For $30, why wouldn't you wanna have the highest form of ID issued by the federal government that's attached to your freedom? Why wouldn't you wanna have that? I I I can't understand anybody not wanting to. Okay? So, anyway, now you can wait twenty days and but what however you want. Now you can go back and apply for that passport. I'd suggest you just do the $30 at first just in case they wanna keep your money. Okay?
[01:03:01] Unknown:
And reject owe me money anyway because I have to get Okay. Owe me money anyway because I did expedite the service. So they can just apply that money Well, no. They're not the car.
[01:03:12] Unknown:
No. That was in your other status. You hadn't corrected things yet. You weren't this new person. They're gonna keep it. I don't think you can get that back.
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K? No. I can get the I can get the expedited money back, but not the passport money that I Alright. Well, whatever. Whatever the situa like I said, folks,
[01:03:31] Unknown:
this this one and this parameters, this is the first time we've ever had a situation like that. Congratulations, Gigi. So, anyway, you're gonna apply. And if they reject you again because you're a new legal person and you've got that affidavit into the secretary of state already, then you've got grounds for an administrative appeal should you they reject. Gotcha. Okay? If you don't have that affidavit in like you did last time, you got no grounds for any appeal.
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Mhmm.
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Okay? So that's the importance of it, and that's why.
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Yeah. I have backup now
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Okay. Yeah. With the affidavit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm not that person. Here you go. I'm sorry. It's not that I'm not a person. I'm sorry. I'm not that person, The one that had those charges. Those were all my other legal personality when I was a serf.
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Okay?
[01:04:38] Unknown:
Yep. So, you know, this stuff can get very complex when you get into these idiosyncrasies in these situations, but yours isn't all that complicated. It's just very rare. And I still think, hopefully, once we can get ahold of Mark, and he did, I left him a message about you, and I saw that he had at least listened to it. So, one of these days, we'll get him back on, probably maybe Saturday, and we can get his re Appreciate you. Okay. You're welcome. Alright. Now where where else do we have to go out there? So were there some new people that piped up? I know we are Tony. Roger. Haven't spoke with him before. Here's Larry. He's always got something for us. What do you got, Larry?
[01:05:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it's very difficult to get back your your if you pay a a a fee to have your passport expedited, I I I have found it's quite difficult to get your money back if they don't fulfill the their their end of the bargain. The the student I helped, he applied for a passport, and then he got the new improved bluff letter. And remember, a month ago or two months ago on the air, I went over that response to that new and improved bluff letter with you. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. Well, in that in in the response, I did request the, the fees paid for the expedited service. I requested that back, and within, two weeks, he got the passport, but he did not get, you know, his money back for their lack of, you know, expediting the passport.
So I think it's quite difficult to get that money back. Well, and it's not worth going suing for $60,
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whatever it is. You know? Cost you more than that to do it almost. Exactly. Anyway, go through the motions, Gigi. Try we'll try and find out where they are, and I'm sorry you're in this condition, but crap happens.
[01:06:38] Unknown:
Well, it's okay. I'm alive. So that's all that I'm alive, and, people be on despair to to get my story, so that's good.
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Okay. Let me prove to you, and I'm gonna go to it. The very first document I ever found on all this stuff. I had gone to the Phil Marsh meeting. I had done read his book and all that stuff, and this on the Internet, this back in 1992 now. There wasn't hardly a Internet. A lot of people weren't even on it yet at that point. And so, I was looking for information. I was hungry about, like, Todd. Todd and his bunch here are. And, so, only, research place I had to go was the Cobb County Library. I lived in Cobb County, Georgia. They're on the Northwest Side Of Atlanta. So I popped down to the Cobb County library, and, it's right across the street from an old Confederate graveyard, and it's the it's kinda rolling hills and stuff.
And you see all those gravestones across the windows or that side are all windows, and it's just, well, it's always been emotional to me, you know, all this stuff. Anybody from the South, we've had to live with this crap our whole lives. Okay? And now you can't fly the Confederate battle flag and all the other crap that they've loaned on us. I got one in the window right here. A little bitty. One's not big. Not as big as I'd like, but I got it in my window with me in South America. Because those do you know the Saint Gigi, do you know what the Saint Andrew's Cross is on this hate flag? Gigi, come back and talk to me.
Okay. Well, you know the Confederate battle
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well, now well, I'm gonna tell you. Well, I heard that was the real flag. That was our original flag.
[01:08:34] Unknown:
Well, with the battle flag no. No. No. Nope. Nope. This is when this war started, and the original Southern flag was so similar to the federal flag that the troops would look at a standard and miss misread think it was the other flag and go the wrong damn flag. So that's why they came out with the Confederate battle flag to separate the forces of the North and the South, clearly in their flag standard. So it came out of Mobile. Couple of women down in Mobile were the first ones that put this together, and it's what we call in the South, the stars and bars. It's the red flag with the blue Saint Andrew's cross with the stars in it.
K. So that Saint Andrew's Cross is also on another, other flag. I think it's the Scottish flag. It's blue. The Saint Andrew's Cross is side to side because Andrew was one of the disciples' brothers. And when they crucified him, he said, I cannot be crucified. I will not be crucified on a cross the same as Jesus, so turn mine on its side. That's why that cross the way it is. K? I see very few people know that. Okay? And so, it's very important to southern people. Yeah. It used to be when I was in school, Ole Miss over in in Oxford, they had a a colonel the colonel there was their, mascot, little old southern colonel.
And you look at or go to the game and the whole stands was waving these Confederate battle flags. Well, hell, they won't let them do that anymore. Okay? And that's why. They had Saint Andrew's Cross is side to side because he said, I'm nowhere near equal to Jesus. Turn my my cross sideways, basically.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I'm actually looking at it right now, and it does look sideways because it doesn't look like a it looks almost like x to Well, the Scottish flag is the same way, and there's others, but that's what that means.
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Okay? And so, anyway, I'm looking across the street at this all these people that died for nothing. I think it's very interesting to me that when I said this talking to Anne Vandersteel, she agreed with me. I I was really kinda shocked. And and I believe that the civil war was started so that they could get the thirteenth and the fourteenth amendment in the constitution and could control our country. And through controlling our country and us as property and backing the world reserve currency, they've controlled the rest of the world for decades. See, I think this was Hey, Rod. I think that
[01:11:32] Unknown:
Please. That Saint Andrew's Cross is the flag of of I'm sorry. I didn't want you to get too far. Go ahead. Go ahead. I think that Saint Andrew's Cross is the Jamaican flag or the Dominican Republic.
[01:11:46] Unknown:
Well, it could be. I'm just telling you the symbolism behind it. Okay?
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Yep. Sorry.
[01:11:58] Unknown:
See, the problem with people interrupting me is now totally lost my train of thought. K? So, anyway, I'm in that library. I just say that as a because it moves me. It moves me that 600,000 plus people killed each other, And I think the reason was to get this damn scheme started. And the reason I've confirmed that lately is because that's the same time frame they started Cyrus Scofield and dispensationalism right in that same area. So they had two things that they started back then that the objectives were long term down the line. And I think the fact that that Scofield situation dispensationalism, which is becoming so important today, all these years down the line were started at the same time, is pretty good evidence that that my theory thesis here is probably correct. Anyway, Anne Manders still agrees. She came right out. I agree with you. Bam. Well, I was I was shocked, really.
But at least she's put some thought into that. So, anyway, I'm at the library. I'm looking at this cemetery that promoted this dialogue here. And so, I I I already knew from reading Phil Marsh's book and what I'd learned at that point, the time frame we were talking about, 1913 Federal Reserve. And so I went and found this book that said historical legal documents. And I opened it up to the time frame, and I want you all to go look at it on search. You can put it in search. Woodrow Wilson, put it in quotation mark, or you don't have to maybe. Woodrow Wilson's repudiation of dollar diplomacy.
Woodrow Wilson, repudiation of dollar diplomacy. It's a very state short statement that was put out by Wilson right in this time frame early in his presidency because they hadn't got his their hooks into him yet. And what happened was it says there's very short, it's only a couple paragraphs. And it says, we were approached by a consortium. He uses that exact word, a consortium of bankers, a cartel. Consortium of bankers. No doubt we all know what the ethnicities were. And, we were asked to undersign this $100,000,000 loan to China.
And then he gives the reasons that he didn't wanna cosign it. Well, first of all, what were they looking for for cosigners? They want muscle to collect the taxes justifiably because they never paid 1p on this. But as you go down on about the second or third paragraph, it tells you why he, wouldn't sign it. And he goes, part of the reason was the tax system, which is antiquated and burdensome. Boy, is that perfect description of the tax code? Antiquated and burdensome. And administered by foreign agents. There it is right there. The IRS, the reason they rent their offices and they're not in government buildings is their foreign agents under the International Monetary Fund overseeing this bankruptcy.
There it is right there in the document. K? That's the first document I ever found that really and if you look at it, it also blueprint for everything. Long of a bunch of money. They know they're not gonna pay it back. They want the resources, and they need the military to enforce the taxation issue. But there's the whole blueprint right there. K? So, found that first piece of paper I ever found on this stuff where I went looking on my own, and, boy, I come up with the gym. That's the blueprint of the whole damn thing. K?
But it's funny. I could show that to other people, and they just don't understand it for whatever reason. I see it clears clears clear, and other people see it clears mud. So I don't know. Anyway, that's what happened. Now to further this, and we had some discussion on this a while back, the Chinese never paid a penny on that. And so when it came time for Britain to give Hong Kong back to the Chinese, part of their agreement was they would pay the British bondholders on those bonds that are still outstanding that it accrued a bunch of interest.
They didn't pay any of the American bondholders of which there's about 20,000, I'm told. Now I was watching during COVID a lot on China. I got very interested in China. They used to have a China Today or China and focus, I think, on YouTube. And they and then they came in and and it was sponsored by the people that are affiliated with Steve Bannon. And so they got it down to a very short thing, but you could find out what's happening in China. And one of the guys that's really spearheaded that whole network is a guy named Phillips. I can't remember his first name.
Sharp young man. And so I tuned into a program one night, and he is interviewing an American attorney, older gal, that's in charge of the bond a bond unit of some sort that settles out all these old bonds. And so she's talking to Phillips, and she says, I have been in and sat with President Trump. He knows about this. And she says, we exchange debt bonds every day. And now, because they haven't paid a single penny to the American bondholders, That, at that point in time, was $1,700,000,000,000 in the amount. You wanna know the you wanna see compound interest? The magic of compounding? Let's say 50,000,000 turned into 1,700,000,000,000.0.
How about that? Well, that's some big wampum right there. In fact, we only owed the Chinese 100 and a million a bit a trillion 0.2. So we had a half a trillion, 500,000,000,000 more just in the, the the value of those bonds. Well, President Trump could have, at that point, gone out to those 20,000 bondholders and paid them 5 or 10¢ on the dollar. They're never gonna get anything otherwise. They take that. It'd probably be quite a sum of money at this point. And now Trump has 1.7 worth of bonds owed to the Chinese owe us. And every month when the Chinese bond payment comes due, he feeds them their own defunct bonds.
But that's never happened. Somebody said they some somebody had heard somebody or read something saying that had been settled. When I saw this gal less than five years ago, it had not. K? And she says, yeah. We trade bonds out every day. So, anyway, that all came from that one document right there, the 100,000,000 that they went ahead and loaned without the cosign. So they didn't have military to do any collections. So now they've ignored it. The Chinese are this kind of people they are, by the way. And, and and now it had amounted to 1,700,000,000,000.0 or 500,000,000,000 more than we owned the Chinese, period.
So why that never happened? I don't know. I just know that I was stunned that here's this gal with this very important information that goes back to the very first document I ever found. So, that was kinda interesting. But, anyway, that's how I know they're foreign agents. There's the blueprint right there. Repudiation of dollar diplomacy. So who's got something else now? Nobody? Nobody's got anything Hey, Roger. Yes? Who who you know? Quick. Who am I speaking with, please?
[01:20:35] Unknown:
Mikey in New Hampshire. I'm Hello, Mike. Oh, hey, Mikey. Oh, yeah. I, I've been listening for a while, and I, I sent my, affidavit in in June, June. And I got my passport, about a month later, almost exactly. Yeah. And it came by itself. Yeah. And, I was wondering, I I and I I I signed up for both the, the book and the card. And I did not get the card. That didn't come. Okay. Well, they don't come from the same
[01:21:13] Unknown:
they don't come from the same place. They evidently farm this out to somebody to make the cards, and they generally come in separate cover. Now if you still have not gotten it, you could, there's a, there there's a website you can go on and track the progress of your document on the state department. I don't know that address, but you can call the state department and get it. And, but it seems unusual. They've been pretty good at getting these things back timely. But it seems like this one might have fallen through the cracks. I check on it. Okay?
[01:21:54] Unknown:
Yeah. And they they said, at the, post office that they'd be including a a a punch version of my previous passport. Yes. They they they send that
[01:22:05] Unknown:
they send that back with three holes in it. Yeah. I didn't get that either. So Alright. Well, you got a good I'm waiting. Well, I I'd say you got a good reason to contact them and say, I hadn't gotten this, and this hadn't come. What's the deal? And let them figure it out.
[01:22:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay? There's another question I have. Alright. Has to do with, I didn't file my taxes, the past two years, because I it was just so trivial. You know, the, the amount that I owed, it was, like, you know, less than a $100. And, so I didn't I'm wondering, do I need to take any steps to remedy that? No. If it's very,
[01:22:50] Unknown:
Mike, if it's very trivial, go back and pay the amount so they don't come back on you. Be my
[01:22:59] Unknown:
suggestion. So, that would that would be before I send any notices or anything like that. Right?
[01:23:06] Unknown:
Well, I you know, they the the IRS, Mike, the IRS is not known for its speed and efficiency. Okay? So if it's a little amount of money and it's just two years, they may not get to you. They may not get to you ever. But I'm just saying, let me ask you the question this way, Mike. How well do you like to sleep at night?
[01:23:28] Unknown:
Oh, I I like it.
[01:23:30] Unknown:
Go back and pay them then go back and pay them the two years and file for it. It's a negligible amount of money, and then you'll be totally clear, and you can sleep real well. Okay?
[01:23:41] Unknown:
Yep. And so I I should do that before I,
[01:23:45] Unknown:
do anything else then? No. I wouldn't say that necessarily. You go ahead and put everybody on notice, but at some point, you need you should. I if it was me, I'd go back and pay less than a $100 in taxes just to make sure they had nothing no reason to come back on me.
[01:24:05] Unknown:
Is that, well, could they come back on me even if,
[01:24:09] Unknown:
Yes. Because you were in your other legal personality
[01:24:12] Unknown:
back then. You hadn't filed your affidavit. You had not made a status change. You owed that money because you're in your other legal personality. That's why I say you should go ahead and pay it. Yeah. I understand. Okay? Okay. Thanks a lot, Roger. Oh, you're welcome, Mike. I'm glad to have you out there. Who else has got, some little pig persnickety little situation?
[01:24:37] Unknown:
I have a comment from my last car. There's okay. Go ahead, Paul. Roger can tell you, in no uncertain terms that they chain they turned 1,500 in crap, garbage, frivolous. The IRS makes the claim. You owe us this because we deem you did a frivolous filing all that prep, and they parlayed that into $3,500. And No. 35,000. Oh, 35,000. So 1,500 wound up being 35,000.
[01:25:17] Unknown:
I don't even know if it's 1,500. I didn't make enough money to owe any taxes back then. Well, it was three But they it would three frivolous filing penalties. That was the base of it. And then I they the I I took them to court, federal court, on the summons for books and records. I had this little cute little black gal, little, IRS agent on the stand for four and a half hours. I promise you, she hated my guts. And what came out of that was a 35,000 a $30,000 bill on which they added another $5,000 for taxes they think I might owe in the future. Mhmm.
So that's what that kind of crap you're not fighting them, Michael. I'm just saying. There's no reason if it's less than a $100 or a nominal amount of money, there's no, reason to leave that hanging out there.
[01:26:09] Unknown:
Pay it because they'll turn that into 10,000 just as slick as can be.
[01:26:16] Unknown:
Well, hope. Just with bullshit. Adversary. So they can do that you know, you don't have the adversarial relationship I had with them. They probably will never contact you. But if it's less than a $100, why do you wanna risk it?
[01:26:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Lean slate, dude.
[01:26:33] Unknown:
Okay. So now anybody else? Alright. I might have enough time to get into these. Yes, sir?
[01:26:45] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Just just just to figure out. They can go back three years. Is that right?
[01:26:52] Unknown:
Seven.
[01:26:55] Unknown:
Seven. Okay. Yeah. So you're right. It makes sense.
[01:26:59] Unknown:
Thank you. You're welcome. Okay. Anybody else? No? Okay. Let's I was try this is what I was gonna try and get to yesterday. We probably got enough time to go into it now. Self help remedies. Very important. If you didn't know what they were and I asked you, you wouldn't know what they are. But everybody knows lien levy garnishment and seizure. Those are all self help remedies, they're called. There's a reason for that. Because they don't necessarily have to go to court to get the avail themselves of the remedy. And the reason is because it's already written into the contract that you signed originally.
This is one of those quirks of the Babylonian merchant code where they can you if you don't understand what this is, what these remedies are, how they avail themselves of them, and they come, like, grab your car or your house, and you automatically think, Admiralty Law. But it's not. That's prize. Remedies in Admiralty Law are called prize. I kick your ass. I take your stuff. You can't defend it. It's mine. Possession is 90% of the law. K? Well, that's they they took care of that in the Babylonian merchant code. I told y'all the other day, Now I like to teach this stuff in concepts, in big fat pieces.
So then you get the concept and you can see how they interact with each other and how the thing works much easier. The example I've always used, if you had a child, I don't know, eight, 10 years old, maybe a little younger, and you went to the toy store and you bought a 15 piece puzzle, and then right next to it was a 1,500 piece puzzle, and you bought both of them, brought them home. Which one you think that eight or 10 year old is gonna put together the fastest, the one with 15 pieces or the one with 1,500? The rhetorical question, obviously.
So the big picture approach to me is much easier than having to learn all the minutia. Once you learn the big picture, you can go in and drill down on the minutia and find it and understand it. If you don't, the chances of you doing that are greatly diminished. So that's why teaching concepts. Well, this is one of the concepts. You know, if I ask you, like, Gigi, what did you know what do you know about the, Babylonian merchant code? And you're gonna go, duh. I don't know anything about it. Well, if you're don't know anything about the Babylonian merchant code, you're pretty much at a big disadvantage here because that's what they're using.
We call it the uniform commercial code. Same thing. And for for and still for centuries and even now, it's called and referred to as the law merchant. So you got three different labels on the same concept. The Babylonian merchant code, the law merchant, and the UCC. K? All the same thing, just a different label. Now even in the UCC, it says, anything not covered by this title reverts back to the law merchant. It's right in there. K? So it is the law merchant. If it reverts back to the law merchant, it is the law merchant. And that's where this came from. And it's like the reason, you know, the Bible is replete with the merchants of the earth. The merchants of the earth this, the merchants of the earth that. Well, I may be from the South, but I gotta think the merchants of the earth use the merchant code.
Well, they do. Admiralty, maritime, everybody's always trying to search to connect these dots if they can connect because they don't understand because they don't understand what they're being confronted with. And the self help remedy is a is a really good example of that. So it's very useful like everything. And the reason they use the merchant code, by the way, is because they've been messing with it for thousands of years. They know it inside out. They're the merchants of the earth. So they know how to take something that's got a legitimate usage and use it malevolently against you, weaponized.
And that's what they're doing. So if somebody comes oh, y'all pick on Gigi. Gigi, if somebody comes and grabs your stuff like they did with you, I think, then you go, holy smokes. These guys have got a lot of power. They can just come grab my possessions, and I can't do anything about it? Well, see, what you don't understand is there's process behind it. They can't just come and grab your stuff without all kinds of letters, giving you chances to correct the situation, giving you another chance. They've gotta go through all of this notice and the right to be heard due process. They've gotta go through all this due process before they can get their grubby little hands on your stuff.
One day, I mean, I heard one of the girls in our tax group there in Atlanta, and I wake up at, like, I don't know, the phone's ringing at seven or 07:30 in the morning. And this little gal, she was a masseuse, and she's going, Roger, Roger, they're stealing my car. Well, that that's the impression you get. You didn't realize all that process they'd sent you that you ignored or didn't mess with or what led up for them to do have the ability to do this. K? So so Roger?
[01:33:06] Unknown:
Yes, Gigi.
[01:33:09] Unknown:
So the thing with me was
[01:33:11] Unknown:
I was trying to write that Let's not go into that right now. Let me continue on. We'll come back to that. Okay? I'm trying to give everybody an overview here. Alright? And so, that's what they've used since the Babylonian times. And because this way of remedy, of achieving remedy, does not entail a formal court process, it's agreed to in the contract. Okay? Now the way I like to explain it, because it makes sense everybody can kind of agree and relate, is car contracts when you go and buy a car. By the way, the it's the highest the highest amount of nonpayment of, auto loans ever right now. Highest delinquency payment on homes right now. All these things. Okay?
Happening right now to us. And so when you go buy that car and they go, well, Gigi, you wanna pay cash for that, or do you wanna finance it? Well, Gigi's gonna have, as everyone would, have to finance it. And so they bring out a financing statement. It's a promissory note. You're creating money right here. You're creating debt. You're creating babble bucks right here. So in the contract, in this car contract, they have a clause that's referred to as a recognizance. A recognizance. That comes from the root word recognize. So in the contract, there'll be a paragraph that says, I agree to, to all the statutes that are passed by the state I live in on repossession of cars on delinquent payments.
And it might be different from state to state. K? But the legislature will have in there, if you don't pay on the sixty first day, they can invoke this clause. And the state legislature has said that if you don't pay on the sixty first day, they can come grab your car. Now that's in the contract you signed, but you didn't read it. You didn't know what that meant. K? And it's got a legitimate purpose so they don't have to go the the car dealership or who owns the paper has to go get on a court docket. Then they gotta wait months and months before they can, get get in court. And then they gotta get a jury, and then they gotta have a trial, and then they've gotta get a judgment, and then they've gotta go record that judgment, then they can come grab your car. By that time, you may be in Tierra Del Fuego down there at the tip of, Argentina.
So they certainly don't want that. So you can see that this has got a very legitimate application. Okay? The the name of the term is called the recognizance. Now just to confuse you even further, there's another clause in there called a defeasance, and that means defeating something. Defeasance. And so in the defeasance clause, it says, we've got this gun at your head. You hadn't paid one month. We're waiting on the second one. And when you don't pay that, bam, we're gonna pull the trigger and come get your truck your vehicle. So the defeasance is in there every time you do pay a monthly payment, you defeat the potential remedy.
So you're defeating the remedy by paying the payment what you said you'd do anyway. Is that understandable? It's pretty simple. Recognizance, the Ephesians thing I just throw in there to show you how much I learned from John. Now, if this were what's called a Jewish sheatar, which many of you don't recognize. And that is what we identify as a ten forty form. In England, it was called a statute, staple, bond, or contract. It's called a Jewish sheatar, a statute staple bond or contract. We call it a ten forty form. K?
Now those are all three labels for the exact same document. Alright? Again, multi labels. And so if it is a Jewish sheatar, a ten forty form, Then it falls into a particular type of contract in the UCC called in in this section called specialty contracts. And it's got a recognizance, and it's gotta be signed under seal. So the recognizance we covered, recognizing another body of law in your ten forty form, the recognizance is I I agree to abide by all the terms and conditions in title 26 CFR. So you're agreeing in the ten forty to obey all the tax laws.
And then you sign it under seal, which means under penalty of perjury. You can send the IRS a ten forty for a billion dollars and not sign it, and they'll send it back to you. K? It's got to be signed under seal, and it's gotta have a recognizance. Now this is the way these things work. So we'll take our example with, the car and go over here to this, ten forty form. And so now that you've signed that and you send it in, now you've filed, so they can't get you with failure to file. They come in and audit you. They do these other things, but they want you to voluntarily because it's a voluntary system, they want you to voluntarily send that in and sign that under penalty of perjury, totally obligating yourself.
K? And so, if you don't file, however, it becomes a little more problematic because now you haven't put in a ten forty form. And the computer is programmed to work correctly. So it has to have a ten forty form filed for it to progress to the end of its process. This is what I was talking about yesterday on the Anne Vandersteel. I love Anne. She's already I've only spoke to her once. Still waiting for her to call me back or contact me. Anyway, Anne is railing on some guy. She said, they were filing for him year after year after year. He hadn't filed in years. Well, they went back seven years. They filed seven of these what's called substitute for returns, SFRs. In the community, we call them dummy returns because they're filed by a dummy. Okay?
So all they're doing is going back and doing like they did to me. Oh, well, it's I always get these penalties and this interest, and he didn't know it's too much or anything, but by god, he owes us 35,000 now. Well, now they do that sort of computation. They don't ask you about it because they figure you're under requirement to file already. So they go to the computer and they do a code called push code o nine. Push code o nine. Now this is in all the IRS manuals and stuff on how they do these processes. And so they put and hit o nine and stops the computer on this case.
Now they take this fraudulent $35,000 on the substitute for return, and they insert it into your file. And then they start the computer again. Now the computer sees a ten forty has been filed, and now they go on to assess you that amount, go to collections, etcetera, etcetera. But that's what Ann Vandersteel was raising hell about. She doesn't even understand. That's a very common practice, but not rare, and and they've got you. Now something came up about this the other day. I think Paul mentioned it. This is another of these specialty contracts and the reason they like using the merchant law. They got all these little ways they can screw you.
And so if you don't file, at the start of the process, they don't have you voluntarily sending that in, do they? So they've gotta get you in some sort of a contract. And so have any of you ever gotten that letter from the IRS that says, well, we haven't received your tax return for the year twenty twenty twenty twenty two. If you've already sent these in, please disregard this mailing. However, if you've not, we may ask you to come in and bring some of your books and records. That's when all the patriots would go into the IRS Building with a wheelbarrow full of books and records.
[01:43:09] Unknown:
K? Well, he told me to bring my books and records.
[01:43:13] Unknown:
And so, that's the way some people handled that back then. But that letter, John always thought again, this is John's speculation. I've never seen anything he speculated that was wrong. John speculated that that was a specific type of a contract in specialty contracts, again, in the UCC, and is called and referred to as a confirmatory writing. Now the way John explained it to us is it's a writing among merchants who are apprised to know the contents of the writing. And if you get one of these within ten days and you don't expressly deny it, it deems you've accepted it.
So when our patriot folks get that letter, well, they already are. They already said it's a voluntary system. Hell, I ain't volunteering. And so he gets that letter. What does he do with it? Throws it in the trash can. So in ten days, they've got him on the front end in a contract that he doesn't even understand. So that's what allows them, from what I've been able to ascertain, that allows them to utilize that push code o nine, stop the computer, insert the substitute for return, and now you owe them a bunch. Now because there's all kind of process, they've sent you letters. If you haven't returned these files coming if you if you file these years, don't. If you do, we might ask you to come in. There's a series of those letters. And then they gotta send you a ninety day letter, what's referred to in the patriot community as a ninety day letter. And that's saying, hell, you're at the position.
You owe us some bread. And if you if you don't want to, that's fine, but you've got an option here to go to tax court. Ah, tax court. Member's voluntary. They don't say we're subpoenaing you for tax court. They make you file in tax court. You know why? Because you're the moving party. You've now got all of the burden on you to prove. You get into tax court, by the way. You can't argue law. You can't argue regulations. The only thing you can argue in tax court is the amount. Period. So all of that is process that leads up to the fact if you don't go to tax court, you're gonna go ahead and file a lien, a notice they call it a notice of lien, in the property records office of your county where you live.
So if you've ever seen one of those documents, a notice of lien, it's got three pieces of information on it. It's got your name in all caps. It's got the address where you are are domiciled, and it's got the amount you owe. Now they allow them to file this in the property records office. I'm sure they never object. So if you look at that piece of paper and there's only three pieces of information, what if what if you live in a rental house or apartment and it's not your, quote, unquote, property? Had there probably been millions of people that have had that situation? They've got a notice lien on them, and they live in a rental house. Who's the lien on?
If it's not on the property, you don't own that, so it can't be on that. It can't be on the money, the amount. Who's what's the notice to lien on? There's only one left. That's you. You're the property. K. And so that's all process. Once they do that, now we've they've told you. We begged you. We gave you an opportunity to go tax court. We get all this stuff for you to try and correct this error when you threw that little confirmatory writing in the trash can and agreed with us. So, we're gonna come start grabbing your stuff. We may grab your house. We may grab your car. We may garnish your wages, all that stuff.
But you see, there's always process behind it. It's not just I'm gonna come grab your stuff. And that's where the patriot community falls through the holes because they don't know the stuff I'm teaching you right now. They don't have any idea what a self help remedy is. Oh, if you say a lien, they know what that is, but they don't know why it's self help, how you have that signed into the agreement that you, sent them or didn't and inferred with this, other way. So, here's what happened with that. It's funny. In that very same video on x from Anne Vandersteel, she mentioned a guy named Michael Ellis.
She said, Michael Ellis got me all this information. He applied for his master file and got all that background stuff from the IRS. And Michael Ellis, when I was doing shows with Al Attis years ago, Al Attis knew about Michael Ellis. And so the tax situation came up on our program, and this discussion came up. And and and and, also, I know this guy, Michael Ellis, has got all these manuals and knows them inside out. I said, well, I'm my other teacher, Glenn, knows the whole origin of the tax system and how it works and how it was structured. And we put those two together.
And so it gave both of them the complete picture. They had a doctor, medical doctor in San Diego on been charged with two failure to files. And they said, well, let's do this. We've got the whole picture now. We've got a law firm that will that will use this defense. And so Glenn would write all the process and send it to the law firm, and they'd use it and file it. Well, unfortunately, the the doctor was convicted. And they appealed it to the ninth circuit, and the ninth circuit agreed with those convictions. And, Glenn this one Glenn walked away from everything here, by the way.
I got the goods on them. We get it in their court, and he goes, Roger, it is so damn complex that not only can the jury not understand, the judge can't moratorium placed on the whole federal judicial system at the district court level, no one is allowed to bring up push code o nine in any IRS case anywhere in the country. Now that's what's happened subsequently. So, that's, that's self help remedies. Roger. Larry.
[01:50:42] Unknown:
Yeah. You're right. The IRS does have to, exercise process, and they have to send a series of letters out before they can take your stuff. This is right from the IRS website. It's called understanding your CP five zero four notice. We received this notice or you received this notice because we haven't received payment of your unpaid balance. This notice is your notice of intent to levy internal revenue code section six three three one parenthesis d. If you don't pay the amount due immediately, the IRS can levy your income and bank accounts as well as seize your property or your right to property, including your state income tax refund to pay the amount you owe, end quote.
[01:51:36] Unknown:
Well, there there you go right from the horse's mouth and process process process, due process process. This not admiralty law. K? That that and our our maritime. That's one of the big things I'm trying to get across. If you've got that Patriot crap in your mind, get rid of it. Wipe the slate because it's not accurate. Okay? So, anyway, that's what self help remedies are. They're very, very important. And you can see that they've got a very good usage on one hand. They've got an, an evil usage on the other. Now I'm gonna apply this for you. As Rome got started and built and started being aggressive in acquiring foreign territories, The merchants of those territories, of course, I you can probably guess what ethnicity they were.
They wanted to come to Rome because that's where the action was. That's where they can make all their merchant deals and this, that, and the other, make big big dineros. And so, what happened was that very same thing. The they started coming to Rome. Now Rome, for the first two hundred years this is all in my book, by the way. Rome, for the first two hundred years, was under a set of laws called the 12 tablets. We don't know what the 12 tablets said, but we know Rome was under them because they referred to them. And so, what that was was more of a common law type structure. They had a formal court system. They had, like, a a jury you had to go in front of and get a judgment and go get it registered and all that stuff.
Very time consuming, could be expensive. And, so as the merchants came into Rome and brought with them the Babylonian merchant code and this very easy way of remedy where they write the remedy into the contract. And they could see these merchants and they didn't have to go to court. They didn't have to get a attorney. They didn't have to go through all that crap. All they did was settle it right there on the spot because it had been written into the contract on the front end. And so the the Romans, seeing this very easy way of settlement of contract and remedy, started going the attorney general in Rome was called the praetor.
You've heard the praetorian guard. Well, at one point in Rome, it was the praetorian guards who decided he was gonna be emperor. Okay? And so they amassed a great deal of power. And and and Rome knowing this would only allow a praetor in office for a year at a time. So every year, they changed praetor so he didn't amass too much power. And so over the course of two hundred years, generally, the new praetor followed the body of law the older the guy he replaced had had followed. Conservative approach. Well, the Romans, seeing this new easy way of remedy, would go the praetor and say, hey, man. Can we do this? This is, like, easy. We don't have to do all this other stuff.
And it took a while. But over a period of two hundred years, the praetor incorporated self help remedies into the existing Roman law. Therefore, we have a fusion of merchant law and common law. And that is what we call today the Roman Civil Code. We would identify it as The U United States Code. Same thing. An amalgamation of Babylonian remedies and stuff into the existing common law. That's why if you go to The United States code and look in the first it may be in every page. Just a second, Julie, please. It may be in every page. I don't know. It's been a long time. But there's a list of all 50 titles, and they will tell you whether it's positive law or nonpositive law. Well, what the hell is nonpositive law for god's sakes?
It's Babylonian merchant code. It's things that have not been common law constitutional that have been brought in under this new amalgamation since the bankruptcy into The United States code where, for instance, title 26, which is the Internal Revenue Code, title 26 was never passed by the senate, and it was never signed by the president, but it ends up in The United States code as nonpositive law. Why how the hell did that happen? Because it was the federal government that was bankrupt. They bankrupted the federal government in the bond department, and they ran in the tax law because it's for Washington DC and the serves.
Julie?
[01:56:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Sorry. I didn't wanna interrupt you because I didn't wanna interrupt your train of thought, but I had some questions about stuff you were saying before before you moved on to this. So now I have two questions. The first question is when you were talking about the, when the IRS sends you, like, we have not received your tax return or they send you some other statement in the mail. You stated It's that one. No. It's not some other statement. It's that one specifically.
[01:57:19] Unknown:
There's a series of What if they send you something else? Hold on. Those are called CP letters. You've heard them referred to on the show recently because people are starting to get some of them. But there's four there's a series of four. God almighty. I'm trying to answer your question. There's a series of four of them, and they'll always send you those first exclusively. K? Now go ahead.
[01:57:44] Unknown:
K. So those are just the CP letters, and there's four of them?
[01:57:48] Unknown:
There can you can receive four of them. You might receive one of them. I don't know how they're doing. I know in their manual, there's four of them listed there as CP. I don't remember the designations, but they're listed there. Go ahead.
[01:58:01] Unknown:
Okay. And then the other thing I was gonna ask you is, what you were recently talking about. I understand that they write the remedy into the law, via, you know, Babylonian Contract. And
[01:58:14] Unknown:
to the contract.
[01:58:16] Unknown:
Right. Right. And then, what was I gonna tell you? What did you say when you did the transition from the UCC to the USC? Can you just go over that one more time, please? Well, the USC is Roman civil law,
[01:58:33] Unknown:
and they've been Okay. How did the Roman Civil law come about?
[01:58:36] Unknown:
They well, that's they started the United States Code in the nineteen twenties because they knew they were gonna bankrupt the country and what they were gonna do with it. K? It wasn't there back in the eighteen hundreds. It was only the statutes at large. K? So it's an amalgamation of the merchant law and the common law exactly like they did in Rome that ended up being called the Roman civil law. It's an amalgamation of elements of the Babylonian code amalgamated with the common law. And that's what we've got today.
[01:59:15] Unknown:
Okay. And then you said that, title 26 internal revenue code never passed by the senate or signed by the president. Correct. And how did they do this? It was through the bankruptcy. Is that what you were saying? Well, they only they didn't bankrupt the whole country. They couldn't do that. They only bankrupt the corrupt the federal government.
[01:59:32] Unknown:
And that's why because that's DC that they could bring in title 26 and apply it to little old Julie who lives just outside of DC there because Julie, every time they ever ask her, said she was under the laws of Washington DC. Are you a resident? Yes. Well, there you are. So they take in something that was just brought in for the federal government, and they apply it to Julie, a federal citizen, because of her functional illiteracy of not knowing that she was agreeing with their fraudulent contract every time they ever ask you those two questions. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry for interrupting you. Oh, that's okay. I don't I'm pretty well finished anyway. We're just about finished with the show here, but I had enough time to get through that today. It takes a little bit of time and explanation.
But guess where else that happened? At the start of the income tax in England in December when they brought the Jewish sheatar into the English common law. There's a there's a really sterling piece of writing on this. It was issued in the published in the Georgetown Law Review back in the seventies, I believe. It was written by a Jewess named Judith Shapiro, who tells you with incredible detail, the name of the article is How the Jewish Shethar Invaded the English Common Law. And it's just got all this whole story and backstory of the tax situation. But in 20 pages or so, Julie, the good Judith, Jewish Judith Shapiro, well, somehow she neglected to tell us that a Jewish sheatar was also a ten forty form.
But if you wanna read that on all that, go look up that article. Paul, you ought to have that well, I'll have that posted somewhere on the website anyway. How the Jewish Shethard invaded the English criminal law by Judith Shapiro. Now speak.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
Okay. So you, you before I wrote it down, but I didn't get the three words. You said in England, a Jewish a a Jewish shatah is called a bond. And what it what's the other two words? Statute,
[02:01:50] Unknown:
staple, bond, or contract. Okay. So a statute, staple, bond, or contract. And it's called the ten forty form in our country today. At some point, we're not gonna do it today. I'd probably like to wait a few months until we at least turn the first of the year, maybe get into the spring. We'll go over the whole history of this. My teachers, John and Glenn, were, at least on our side, the experts in the world on this. Nobody knew this stuff. By evidence, by the fact when they tried to find the books in the in the universe the library referral system, there were only two of them in the whole damn United States. How do you expect any judge, any tax attorney, any tax preparer, or anybody else to know anything about it when the only two books that describe the process, one of them was at the Library of Congress, and the other was at Texas A and M University?
So that's the bot the the the unbelievable ignorance our whole country's been in, including the tax court. Yes, Larry.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
Yeah. To answer Julie's question, the standard sequence is, before one receives a CP five zero four is to receive a CP 14. This is the initial notice informing you of an unpaid tax balance and demanding payment. Then the second they're sending you.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Right. The the second one is a CP five zero one. If the CP 14 is ignored, a CP five zero one notice will be sent as a reminder of the outstanding balance. And then the third notice is a CP 503. This notice serves as a second reminder that your tax debt remains unpaid and signals that the IRS is nearing enforcement action. Then, of course, you'll get the five o CP five zero four that I read about a little while ago. And then it says this, it's important to note that the five the five zero four is not the final notice. They're still giving you even another chance. It says it's not the final notice before all levy actions. The IRS will generally send an additional notice such as a letter ten fifty eight or l t 11 before levying wages, bank accounts, or other assets.
[02:04:13] Unknown:
Okay, Larry. I got a c p 59 and Mark told me to it to ignore it. Did he? No. You you won't respond to that. I I didn't. And it's so old. It's so old now. I didn't respond to it. Mark said I didn't, I didn't have to respond to it. It was just a reminder, my tax return.
[02:04:35] Unknown:
They can't get you into a voluntary system via this form of contract that you're not responsible for. That's why Mark told you that. Because you're not a citizen of The United States or a resident any longer.
[02:04:48] Unknown:
Right. That's what he told me. He said they have no jurisdiction over me. Well, that's true. K.
[02:04:54] Unknown:
So anyway but that's the that's the tax scam, and that's a little bit about self help remedies, where they come from, and the fact that they this is the same thing they do with everything. There's things in there that are legitimate, like the confirmatory writing that they understand how to weaponize. They know you don't know about it, and they know they're gonna snag you in the snare with it. That's the importance of it.
[02:05:20] Unknown:
K? So do anybody else she sent to since she sent
[02:05:24] Unknown:
Oh, go ahead, please.
[02:05:27] Unknown:
But since since she sent what the c 11, what's it called, with the affidavit,
[02:05:34] Unknown:
she doesn't have to respond to anything they see. I don't no. It doesn't matter if she sent in that notice with her or not. She doesn't have to they don't have any jurisdiction over, WAI. She filed an affidavit. Taxes are only for citizens of The United States or residents. She's a nonresident alien.
[02:05:54] Unknown:
Since I put everybody on notice, I don't even have to
[02:05:58] Unknown:
defile anything or do anything they'd say do. Well, if you've got eight seventy one or eight seventy seven b income, you should probably pay it, but the chances are you don't have any stocks and bonds. Do you,
[02:06:13] Unknown:
I just have a regular job that sends me a paycheck every two weeks.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
Wahid, I didn't. Okay. That's that's only those would be constitutional taxes you'd owed on the dividends of stocks or bonds. If you got that kind of income, pay it. It's gonna be negligible unless you're a multibillionaire. K? So who else is any of the new folks have questions on all that?
[02:06:38] Unknown:
Roger. Roger. It also includes, US source based income. Don't forget that because That's right. I said that cap That's right. Well, that's what I said. That those are the the reason they have you pay those
[02:06:52] Unknown:
are because those are entities that were born by the state or the federal government. And because they had a hand in birthing the entity and you're participating in it, you have to pay a tax on the dividends, not on the capital gains. It could go from one to a thousand, and when you sell it at a thousand, you owe no tax on that. It's the dividends they paid you. And if I remember correctly, some stocks don't even pay dividends.
[02:07:23] Unknown:
Yeah. But what I'm referring to, Roger, is the contract that I have that I signed with HUD, Housing and Urban Development Well, then then that's the word. Yeah. Well, then you ought to pay that. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So that's what I was referring to. If you have any sort of income, and I have rental properties in DC where I get money or monthly rent from people who are, paying me rent to rent those properties, I don't think that's US sourced
[02:07:51] Unknown:
income, but I haven't been able to figure that out yet. So, you know, these fine points, not very many people are in your situation. It's never come up before. Yep. So I just don't know any answer to those things. K? Well, there's always a first for everything, Roger. Well, yeah. Be the be the little guinea pig. Be the little guinea pig like they buy down here, and they fatten you up all year for Christmas dinner. Oink. Oink. Oink. Oink. Oink. Thank you. Yeah. They're called koi koi down here. It's supposed to be a delicacy. I don't want any part of it. So whatever. Okay. That's gonna be.
Yeah. Supposed to be. Overpriced and not really very good. More cracked up to be more than it is. Alright. So any of the new people have any questions on what we've covered today or specifically this self help stuff?
[02:08:45] Unknown:
Okay. I must If I may?
[02:08:47] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am.
[02:08:50] Unknown:
Pam in Michigan. I'm not new, but, I was just wondering in regards to that statement that was just discussed. Would someone who's getting a rent from someone staying in their location, and that pay was coming from a state, social securities. Okay. So how would that make sense?
[02:09:17] Unknown:
You know, in any of these things, my personal philosophy is it's better to ask forgiveness than permission. So go ahead and don't do it and see if they ding you. If they ding you, oh, I'm sorry. Golly. Let me pay that.
[02:09:36] Unknown:
Okay. I'll I'll give them that message. It's not for me. It's for someone else I know. Okay. And, also always intent.
[02:09:43] Unknown:
I never intentionally I never intentionally didn't pay any tax that I owed. Correct.
[02:09:51] Unknown:
Okay. Let's go back to Pam here. What's the second question, Pam?
[02:09:56] Unknown:
Okay. And so as far as these, payments and, you know, reimbursements or whatever, however these things go, someone was talking about a five zero eight c one a. Is anybody familiar with that? How the, the five zero eight owns the business, and then,
[02:10:16] Unknown:
everything is hidden from the IRS. I yield. I I'm I've never heard of that, quite frankly. Doesn't mean it's not real. It's just I've never I'm I've never been exposed to it to my knowledge. Maybe Mark, you know, hopefully, Mark will get the Indians away from the wagons enough where he can come visit with us on Saturday. Maybe y'all could ask him some of those questions. He's a little more he's a little more adept at all this IRS stuff than me because I hated it, and I went on to jurisdiction. And that's the reason you're free if you've filed your payment. And that's Saturday.
Okay. Thank you. Well, he's supposed to be with us on Wednesdays and Saturdays. So the fact that he's not here today or hadn't even poked his head in tells me something's going on. So that's all I know. Hey, Mark. He's not here. I'm sorry.
[02:11:04] Unknown:
Right. No. I wanted to tell you I've I've spoken to Mark. Mark had a issue with both his dad and his mother. Yeah. And, his dad doesn't get released until Friday. So I'm not sure if he'll be able to be on on Saturday or not. Okay. May I? We don't know what's on Friday. And his mother Yeah. His mother also had a mishap, and she just, I believe, got home today.
[02:11:25] Unknown:
Or maybe on Monday. Well, obviously, March got his hands full. Okay? So God bless him for doing it.
[02:11:33] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:11:34] Unknown:
Okay. Who else? Who else? Paul? I've, Paul, I've got a we were gonna maybe work on this phone today. Well, I went yesterday because I was getting my apartment cleaned, so I had to go out and went to the mall, ate lunch and stuff, and there's a big well, it's like a Walmart store in there. And I went down there. I said, do you have any, you know, traditional telephones? We call them telephono conventional. And out of that whole big section there, there's three phones. They had some kind of an anti theft thing on it that covered up most of the side, and I just grabbed one and went and bought it. Well, I got it home, and it's a wireless phone. It's Panasonic. It's a pretty cool little phone, but the buttons are kinda low. And I and the guy was speaking Spanish, and I didn't really understand what he was saying.
So I'm thinking about going back down there today and seeing if one of the other three was more of a traditional phone. This it's a wireless phone. It's got little buttons, and it's pretty small, which should be very convenient in this configuration we're talking about. But I might run down there and see what those other excuse me. Those other phones were here before we go through trying to install it. Okay? Paul, is that that's so let's just put that off another day. Okay? Just trying to get My my landlady's here. She's working on the front hallway. I was helping her out for a minute. Alright. Well, let's let's take and just put that on the back burner for another day. I'm a go to the mall and see what other types of phones they've got. Okay? Alright. So we'll put that off today.
[02:13:23] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:13:24] Unknown:
So anybody else got anything for me today? I gave you a pretty good drink of water out of a fire hydrant there, new folks, this morning. Roger? Yes, Julie.
[02:13:39] Unknown:
Yep. She What if I what if you've got, like, an iPad?
[02:13:45] Unknown:
No. It's got to be plugged into the magicJack. Okay. Telephone's a lot cheaper than an iPad. So there was a guy trying to say something there. Thank you, though. There was a guy trying to say something there when Julie was talking. Roger?
[02:14:03] Unknown:
Roger? Yeah, Roger. I just I just said bless you because I heard you sneeze, and that's something that, I tried. I do that. Yeah. Unfortunately,
[02:14:11] Unknown:
it's one of the plagues my mother gave me. The sign weird sinuses. And when I confronted her with it, she said, I'm sorry.
[02:14:23] Unknown:
So, Larry, what did you have? You're looking to you look mullein, I mean. Mullen tea. Clear up all sinuses.
[02:14:32] Unknown:
Oh, a what now?
[02:14:35] Unknown:
It's called Mullen. It's an herb. If you use it as a t, it'll clear up all your sinuses. Okay.
[02:14:41] Unknown:
In a drink. What do you call in an hour. Alright. What do you call that in Spanish?
[02:14:50] Unknown:
I don't know. Me either.
[02:14:52] Unknown:
Thank you, though. I'll try and maybe locate some. By the way, I just have to say extra
[02:14:57] Unknown:
so so much, and, have a great day.
[02:15:00] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you very much. Yes, Julie.
[02:15:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Mike Adams had these two, business partners on his a show of his, and the website is called Frontier Farm, and that's f as in Frank,
[02:15:15] Unknown:
r o n I got it. Frontier.
[02:15:18] Unknown:
And it's Farm, p h a r m. They have really inexpensive products that you can buy, for nasal stuff, and it's made out of chlorine dioxide solution. They've got all sorts of mouthwashes if you have any issues with teeth, and also nasal stuff. So if you can't get that if they don't ship internationally, I'm happy to get it and ship it internationally.
[02:15:45] Unknown:
I'm here to you. Well, you don't have to ship it internationally. You just have to ship it to Miami, and my mule will charge me and bring it down down here. So it's a lot better. Oh, okay. Well, then you could do that. So if you ship it internationally, I've got to now go to customs called Wanna Oh, I get it. And go through all of that crap. Okay? So I'd I'd prefer not to do that.
[02:16:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you might wanna check them out because the, the webinar or the
[02:16:12] Unknown:
link. Julie, can you send me an email? You like to send me you like to send me all these little emails. Could you do send that in one, please?
[02:16:21] Unknown:
Yes. I will. Thank you. Instead of instead of nah. Nah.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah.
[02:16:26] Unknown:
Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. N yes. There's a female there.
[02:16:38] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:16:39] Unknown:
Oh, it's Joan.
[02:16:42] Unknown:
The Spanish the Spanish word from Marlene, Mullen, however you wanna say it, is Gordo Lobo.
[02:16:53] Unknown:
Gordo Lobo. Gordo
[02:16:56] Unknown:
Lobo. Wow.
[02:16:58] Unknown:
Okay. I'll try and remember that. Gordo Lobo. And and that's,
[02:17:03] Unknown:
yeah, G 0 R D 0 L 0 B 0.
[02:17:09] Unknown:
Gordo. You know what Gordo you know what Gordo means, don't you? Julie probably does. You remember what jewel Gordo means? Gordita?
[02:17:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Gordo is fat. That's right.
[02:17:22] Unknown:
That's right. You're trying to you're trying to fatten me up, Joan, or what?
[02:17:27] Unknown:
No.
[02:17:29] Unknown:
And, also, one more thing. You know, there's a lot of free translation apps for
[02:17:38] Unknown:
cell phones. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:17:40] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. But that translation is wrong.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
I wouldn't surprise me. No. It's
[02:17:46] Unknown:
Lobo Gordo. Lobo Gordo. Way around. Gotcha.
[02:17:50] Unknown:
Joan, I Go ahead. I don't use cell phones Hey, Roger. Pretty much. My eyesight's bad, and my fingers are fat, and I just don't use them because I get very frustrated. I did want to, however, and I don't know who it was, an old older gentleman that said get one of the little pins with a rubber end, which I did, and it really helps. So thank you very much, whoever that was.
[02:18:18] Unknown:
K. And and, Roger, the, Frontier Farm stuff that you wanna order for your nasal, any nasal issues is called snoot, s n o o t. I thought that was a cute word. Yeah. It's like a pig. A pig snoot. Okay.
[02:18:32] Unknown:
Alright. Who else has got, medical, financial, any kind of, assistance for me?
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Alright. Well well, I've got I've got a, let's see. I have self help remedies for Waheed's trich knee.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
I got a self help remedy for Waheed. No. Run away from that pit bull, but get your knee fixed first. Go ahead. Yeah. The self help remedies for for Waheed and his trich knee are,
[02:19:10] Unknown:
don't lean on that leg. Don't do anything stupid climbing up and down on the levees. If you garnish, do so with joint healthy, garnishes. And if and make sure that you don't fall down or you might hit your head and have a seizure.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
Don't do that, Wahid.
[02:19:34] Unknown:
Don't do that. Okay.
[02:19:36] Unknown:
Roger. Nacho cheese. Nacho cheese. Yes. Yes.
[02:19:43] Unknown:
Did you say you were gonna be on Anne Vandersteel's
[02:19:46] Unknown:
show? Well, I thought I was. I'm still waiting to hear back from her, Robbie.
[02:19:53] Unknown:
Well, I'm wondering if since you haven't heard back, it wasn't a good response from Flynn, but I wouldn't be surprised.
[02:19:59] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. All I know is I sent her a message on WhatsApp, and she hadn't even looked at the message yet. And why you wouldn't check your WhatsApp in five four or five days, I don't know. But that is all I do know. So okay. So I'm not gonna speculate on any of that kind of stuff because we don't know. Alright?
[02:20:23] Unknown:
Roger?
[02:20:24] Unknown:
Yes, Joan.
[02:20:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Those free translation apps, they you can speak. You know? I'm I'm not talking about just writing it out. They you can just press the, whatever on your phone and and and speak it. And then it writes it out, and it verb and verbally
[02:20:43] Unknown:
speaks it out so that you can read it and listen, and so can the other person. What's the Okay. Could what's the name? Could you send me that app name and an email, Joan, please?
[02:20:56] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:20:58] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. If you would. There's several. Sounds like I hate I hate I hate cell phones. Okay? So I but I that one sounds like it might be usable.
[02:21:09] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger. One last thing. We can it's it's it's it's cool how over the years we can discern on what and who is real when you're right over the target.
[02:21:21] Unknown:
Salute to you. Yeah. Well, that's for sure. When you're catching flack, you know you're over the target. Or in our instance, when you're not catching any flack and they totally ignore you, you know you're over the target. When I come on here and call them dirty kikes and everything else and beg them to put me on their hate list and they won't do it, you know you're over the target. All these other people that are getting persecuted by these people that won't listen, like Alex Jones in his little lawsuit when he they tried to claim his name, and he went to the involuntary servitude of the thirteenth amendment.
And they wrote back and said, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment. Oh, no. They're oh, why? Why? Nobody has got an answer, but nobody is receptive. So, I I will wait another if I don't hear back from Chase, we'll try it again and try and get you guys to back me up again, and we'll just keep doing it until he recognizes it.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
Hey, Raj. K. Yes, Paul. Make no mistake. You are definitely on their hate list. They just don't talk about it. They wouldn't mention me with a 10 foot pole. They're scared to death of this information, folks. You are definitely on one of their lists.
[02:22:37] Unknown:
We're we're terrorists to them because we terrorize their scam.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
I guarantee you are on one of their lists.
[02:22:45] Unknown:
Oh, they they know who I am. They've been known since I first put this information out 14 ago. Yep. Yeah. Southern Poverty Law Center was all over it, right, almost from the start.
[02:22:58] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:22:59] Unknown:
They know very well. And they're counting on the fact that you're too damn stupid to have an interest in it or for one wanna figure it out and apply it. But the bad problem they got is we don't need everybody. No. All we need is a small percentage, and we can bring their asses right down.
[02:23:21] Unknown:
We can cripple them just just by pulling 3% out of the tax system.
[02:23:26] Unknown:
Well, we'll I think we've already got a substantial I think we already got a couple million, but still, the more the merrier. We get 10 or 20,000,000 hardworking tax paying Americans out of their system and pull them out of the IRS. These guy they already got big problems. This would just well, it may push them over the cliff. I don't know. We have to wait till those things come into reality, but might. It's got the potential to. That's why we keep trying so hard. And I know that every one of those affidavits make somebody's sphincter muscle tighten when they get it up there. Oh, yeah.
And I like that. Okay? So, girls and guys, any other questions or comments for the old man here? Roger. There's somebody. Yes. Who's that? I recognize the voice vaguely. Is that Tom? Oh, yeah.
[02:24:28] Unknown:
No. No. No. Michael, Minnesota.
[02:24:31] Unknown:
Michael, our old friend. Are you sleeping any better at night?
[02:24:34] Unknown:
Very a little bit better. Today's episode
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did help me to play today. Good. Good. I'm glad to hear that.
[02:24:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Say my, my driver's license came up due, because I've just had my birthday and it, you know, every four years, your the driver's license got to be renewed. I guess so. Well, Feliz Cimigliano. Yeah. Thanks. We shared the same birthday over the weekend. Anyways,
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you and I are both ago, I You and I are both twentieth babies? Really?
[02:25:16] Unknown:
Eighteenth eighteenth for me. About close enough. Yep. Okay. Four years ago, I was a US citizen, and I applied for a Minnesota enhanced driver's license, not a regular enhanced and supposedly Minnesota calls the enhanced driver's license similar, if not identical, to a real ID. Yes. If they follow the same rules, and you can use it at the airport. You can use you just can't, go to you can't use it internationally. You have to use your passport card.
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Book, of course. Because they got, they can't put a Visa stamp in your driver's license.
[02:26:09] Unknown:
Exactly. So here I am thinking, I'm a national.
[02:26:14] Unknown:
How should I renew my driver's license? I would say there's several ways well, there's several ways you could do it. You could try putting TDC under your signature at the first of your signature. That means threats, duress, and coercion that you signed it under in other words, if I'm not this, you're not gonna give it to me. If I don't get it, I might get pulled over on the side of the road by a sub I 100 IQ policeman with a Glock on his hip wanting to shoot me and get in an argument with me or something. So I would go I wouldn't worry about it. It's something that they require that you have and that if you don't have it can get you into a bunch of trouble. It's not gonna change and override your affidavit with the secretary of state if that's your concern.
But it just depends on my next question. Well, that that depends on the individual. See, and I I I it it depends on you. Do you wanna get out there and fight them and potentially go through all this and be very combative, or do you want life to just go along with the comment? God, can I please get how how can I even answer a question when you guys are interrupting me? K. So if it's that, I I'd say no big deal. Just go ahead and get it and live your life. Okay? But there's both sides of it. Continue
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Roger, so are are you recommending that I just do the whole renewal of my enhanced? Or am I is it possible for me to revert back to a regular driver's license, or do you think they still have all the compute? I have no idea. Have to state all that crap these days. I do know if you've got a passport,
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it suffices for one of these DLs that lets you get on a plane and get into a federal bill building. Mhmm. And it won't matter if you put your affidavit in where you're a national or not that that you'll have the what's required. Now I do know we had a guy from Boston, Lewis, who we hadn't heard from him in too long. And, Lewis, nice guy. And during COVID, he did all this, and he call had to go to the Federal Building. And, he called the lady and said, I'm a national. And she said, well, you won't have to wear a mask and something else. But she clearly delineated him from the other people just on the phone call. K? So, Michael, sometimes I just don't have any I mean, I remember I've been out of the country sixteen years. May I?
Yes. Let let let me just finish with Michael here and say that. Julie's got something to say. Lisa's got something to say. There's a guy that had something to add. Mine's real quick.
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Well He he he's he has something to say.
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Okay. Wahid, we're gonna get you out of the way first.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
You said you said that my my tax thing is negligible because I get a check every two weeks. Talk right into the phone, Waiheed. You're very muffled. Okay? You said you said that my taxes never had your mobile because I I get a paycheck every week.
[02:29:30] Unknown:
Please say that again and not speak so damn fast and speak right into the phone, please.
[02:29:38] Unknown:
You said that my tax thing is negligible because I get a check every two weeks.
[02:29:47] Unknown:
I don't think I said that, Waheed.
[02:29:50] Unknown:
I don't think so either.
[02:29:53] Unknown:
Okay. So next, Julie? Yo. Let him finish, ma'am. Yep. I have a He can't even he can't even say what he's wanting to say. Why? I don't know what something about you getting a check every two weeks, Waheed.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
What was your question again, please? Do I do I qualify do I qualify for that tax thing that you're speaking of? What would you text? Since I'm a, national, and I get a check from the company every two weeks, I would I go about and it's a c c 11 or whatever they call it. Oh my god. Oh my god. There's
[02:30:34] Unknown:
you can if you if you want, you can stop them withholding. You can attempt to. They may recognize it. They may not. If they don't recognize it and they continue to take out withholding, next year, you file a ten forty n r. I don't know what that has to do at all with CP letters. Those are if you haven't filed or you haven't paid, then they'll send you one of those. Waheed, you're a piece of work, buddy. You're a piece of work. Julie?
[02:31:06] Unknown:
Yes. I wanna send Michael from Minnesota. If you wanna, contact me, Michael. I will send you all of this stuff that's all over Substack regarding the real ID and what it is. You're signing up for a digital ID. It's manipulate manipulative guides for government surveillance and control, and we must say no to that. So, I know my girlfriend did this a long time ago. She went back into the DMV and said her wallet was stolen, and she's in process of reverting it back to a normal, driver's license with no real ID attached to it. So, I'm being told do not get any enhanced driver's license or any real ID ID.
[02:31:54] Unknown:
Okay. Probably Okay. So my my my response to Michael was also just maybe call them first and ask him ask them at the DMV if if you can revert back to the state versus the enhanced and what steps need to be taken before you go there. Because I'm sure you can.
[02:32:16] Unknown:
Because if you're gonna file an affidavit, Michael, you said something about you being a national. If you're gonna do that, you're gonna get the replacement, the passport. And the passport suffices, excuse me, for anything that you wanna do with they they require a real ID. So if you're gonna do that, that should cure your problem. I I just you know, you gotta pick your battles here in this. And I as an old patriot told me years ago, he said, don't don't choose to pick a battle that you can't win, that you know you can't win. And, if just this traffic thing is just just could be too damn detrimental. That's why I don't even like it discussed on here because you can't nail it down from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. You don't know how they're gonna react. You don't know who you're gonna get. You don't know their attitude.
And it just that's not a battle I choose to fight. If you wanna fight that, I'm not gonna tell you not to because I appreciate the spirit. But I'm just telling you what all of us have learned over time. Try and keep your keep your life as simple and manageable as possible. K? That's my suggestion. It's not rec it's not advice. It's a suggestion. Okay? Michael?
[02:33:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. I will try to,
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revert it back to a normal driver's license. Well, at least you call them and see what they say and let us know. Because these are questions some some of us have. You know? Well, I'm thanking the lord. I don't have to have a license or drive or anything else. And one of the things I really like about Ecuador is the bus system is fantastic. It's dirt cheap. I can go up to all the way up to Quito for 17¢. Okay? I have to walk a half mile to the bus stop. But then taxis are also very cheap too, and I'm just so grateful. I don't have to drive. Yes, Julie?
[02:34:24] Unknown:
I just wanted to let you know that there's a, there's a on Substack, there's a huge chart on Substack that, that shows you when you get the enhanced, driver's license or the real ID on all the things that you are signing up, and that goes back to that contract that you, talk about where we don't know what we're signing, but it has all of these, you know, a recognizance or whatever in it. And then I also wanted to say that, they just announced that Mexico is making biometric identifier mandatory for all of the making biometric identifier mandatory for all citizens, and then The UK is going to force private businesses to accept digital ID verification to operate starting this November or face penalties. So they're rolling all of this stuff out at what speed.
Yep. So they're rolling all of this stuff out at work speed. Yep. And usually England's about five years ahead of us. So,
[02:35:18] Unknown:
I had to do that. They know which now I was flying to Europe, back when I was in Argentina and, to Stuttgart for ten days. And, they did that Irish stuff at the Argentine import. That was a airport. That was a number of years ago. So, I'm already. I don't see the big fear of letting them do it. You're a national. Quit fearing them.
[02:35:46] Unknown:
K? Well, if you're a national, why did you have to do it, Roger?
[02:35:51] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. They just said step here, and I did it. Because I was in our Well, we're not supposed to do that. Hold it, Robbie. Argentina doesn't give a damn what you are. They don't recognize that or know about it. Please, you people. You think everybody in the world knows about this and they're hiding it from you? They don't know shit. William's judge doesn't even know the legal definition of person. I don't have any problem doing it, Robbie, because I ain't scared of them,
[02:36:29] Unknown:
quite frankly. Well, we're not supposed to we shouldn't take any of the biometrics. That's what another thing the Real ID has is the biometrics of our face. Why it doesn't make any difference. Well, you don't need that. You
[02:36:43] Unknown:
so I I y'all either you're not getting what we're saying here or else you're still got your your panties all in a ruffle over this stuff.
[02:36:53] Unknown:
Well, what what I heard was when they have the iris scan, one of the things behind that is that they can see what they can see how the condition of your organs for organ harvesting.
[02:37:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well okay. Whatever. Who who else has got something, please? Okay. Well, then I'm gonna jet out of here, and go see about phones and other meals and other things. So, I'm glad you're doing that. You're hoping to get your phone. Yes. Pardon me, Lisa?
[02:37:35] Unknown:
Said have a wonderful afternoon, and I hope you have luck getting your proper phone. Well, I'll I'll I'll get one. Hopefully, it's the one I need.
[02:37:43] Unknown:
Gotta go back down there this afternoon, it appears. Anyway, that's my ball and chain. I hope yours is lighter or heavier. Lighter, I guess. So that's not much of a ball and chain. So, I'll see all you fine you fine folks tomorrow. Okay?
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Quit being
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serious. You guys. You're the boss now. Stop it. Get empowered. K? I'll see. There's my landlord. I'll see you tomorrow. Yeah.
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Right.
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Julie. Julie. Hi, girl.
[02:38:24] Unknown:
Can you send me that sub stack on the real ID?
[02:38:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll send you the the stuff on the Real ID and it and the chart and all that stuff, and I'll also send you the stuff on the biometric identifier for Mexico and the, information from The UK.
[02:38:42] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:38:43] Unknown:
Thank you. But, Robbie, you're correct on that. You're correct on that. What they're doing is with the Real ID, they're making a biometric marker with your face and your retina, so you're a 100% on that. That is what was spoken about in the Real ID, but not only that, when you sign it, you're actually agreeing to your digital ID, and then you're agreeing tacitly to all of these things in the background that attach to the digital ID, like taxes, all sorts of stuff with ecommerce, all sorts of stuff about identity verification and all of this stuff. It's very scary.
[02:39:32] Unknown:
Robbie, I put two videos in the chat room about the real ID and the dangers of it.
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There it is.
[02:39:41] Unknown:
Woo hoo. Can you repost that again, please? Because I just logged on to FCC. Thank you very much, and sorry for asking you to post it twice. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I can. Give me a second. Thank you.
[02:39:56] Unknown:
You're welcome. Give me a minute.
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Okay. Take your time.
[02:40:00] Unknown:
I'm gonna get back on the regular. I I was I was talking to you guys from the regular, the, the, free conference call. Now I can't get back on free conference call without it without being how do I get back on the free conference call part? Anybody understand what I'm saying dial into the meeting? Or maybe that's how I do it. Can anybody hear me? Can anybody hear me hear me? Hello?
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I hear you.
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Can you put can you put something in the chat saying that you hear me on the reg regular pre conference call? Because I'm hearing my voice in the background.
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I can hear someone talking.
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Can you hear this is me, Wahid.
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This is Moonchild.
[02:41:33] Unknown:
Oh my god. I wonder if it's gonna allow me to can can you still hear me?
[02:41:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah.
[02:41:44] Unknown:
Okay. I'm back, I guess. If every who is this, Greg?
[02:41:50] Unknown:
Greg? Gregory. Yep.
[02:41:53] Unknown:
Oh, good. Okay. I'm back. Thank you.
[02:41:56] Unknown:
You're echoing too. Somebody's probably got their mic open. My I'm gonna close mine. Good to hear you're still here, Waheed. Everybody else too.
[02:42:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I wanted to ask I asked Roger, can you you can't still hear me, Greg. Right? Greg.
[02:42:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Everybody hears you. I mean, everybody.
[02:42:25] Unknown:
Something happened when I I I tried calling a friend while I was on listening to Roger on a free conference. And then I couldn't get back on free conference Until I dialed her number and then it was dialing it was just a weird scenario where I couldn't get back on free conference
[02:42:53] Unknown:
Sounds like operator error sounds like operator error on your phone.
[02:42:59] Unknown:
Next time, leave free conference, your phone call, and then log back in, and then you won't have your phone lines tied up with each other.
[02:43:09] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I did. I tie I it got discombobulated. But Roger said that I had to do something first if I'm just a regular employee that does not wanna pay a file w twos every year. He's named something I was supposed to does anybody remember or can put it in a check?
[02:43:28] Unknown:
I believe you can update your w four with your employer and just file an exempt on there.
[02:43:40] Unknown:
Just so next year, file exempt?
[02:43:46] Unknown:
You can do it now. You can update your employee file at any time.
[02:43:56] Unknown:
And then and then when they send me the w two I mean, when they send me the whatchamacallit, next year, what do I do?
[02:44:05] Unknown:
Well,
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you have to When they ask me to file.
[02:44:13] Unknown:
Are you gonna file exempt? You're gonna up you have to update your w four. That's how they're able to do the w two. So you have to update Update. Four with your HR department.
[02:44:30] Unknown:
Oh, update my w four and go exempt on the w four. And but then what
[02:44:37] Unknown:
Yeah. And the second on there.
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Waheed, may
[02:44:47] Unknown:
May I say file a 10 you file a ten forty
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to you, please. Get a copy of the w four. Just, Wahid, you need to, get familiar with the w four form and then also the ten forty n r as Julie suggested. I yield.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
So, Wahid, you're gonna get you're gonna go to your employer. Larry already did this. He went to his employer. He works for FedEx, one of the largest con companies in the country. They don't withhold from his, paycheck anymore, but it depends on your HR department. You might get resistance from your HR department, and they might still continue to withhold. My advice to you is change your exact your the number of dependents on your w four form. If they're not gonna withhold, tell them you need to change your number of dependents and put, like, eight on there. The more dependents you have, the less that they can withhold from your, your paycheck every two weeks or how often you get it. You can get that money back. But if you get a w two at the end of every year, then what you do is you file a ten forty n r, and you put zero.
Even though they reported that income, you put zero on that, and you don't have to pay, and you can get whatever that they withheld back from you. But, again, if your, HR department is not gonna, work with you on the fact that you're a national and you're not a federal citizen and to not withhold, then change the number of dependents to 10 or something so that they're barely I disagree, Julie. I disagree.
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Information. Not lie on a government form.
[02:46:29] Unknown:
That's right. Gee, man. I I I I did I did that two I did that thirteen years ago. I said I had two kids so that I should get that earned income credit. And two, three months later, they came at me saying they wanted that they wanted my kids,
[02:46:44] Unknown:
Social Security number. Okay. I'm sorry. I had another. Sorry. I yield. I I'm sorry. So one of my other friends registered didn't have any, retribution or kickback. So, I I I I apologize for that. Then just be honest, and you can get that money back, on you can get that money back if if your HR department is not going to Okay. Here's what happened to here's what happened to me this year. Before you go into that, do you have a pen and paper, and are you ready to write?
[02:47:15] Unknown:
Let me go get that right let me go get let me go get a pen and paper right now. Every time you're on this call.
[02:47:21] Unknown:
I'll wait.
[02:47:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank thank you. Thank you. I have a book that it's called Roger, and I have a pen and a paper at all times.
[02:47:32] Unknown:
Hi, Sherry. Sherry, before that, I think you're supposed to ask him if he noticed the IRS. Because I don't think that he had done that yet.
[02:47:47] Unknown:
I I I haven't even done my passport yet. But shouldn't you shouldn't I do my passport before I do anything with the IRS?
[02:48:03] Unknown:
I I gonna have to use the brand Negro, please. How long you been with us here?
[02:48:09] Unknown:
You know that you spoke to me? Over two years over two Oh my god. I put I put everybody else on notice except I put everybody else on notice, but I didn't do the passport, and I didn't do the IRS. I keep I've been saying that for about a year and a half, two years, then I haven't done it yet. The passport or the IRS.
[02:48:30] Unknown:
The the IRS other ones are
[02:48:33] Unknown:
Waheed. The IRS you have to do it. Notice the IRS.
[02:48:37] Unknown:
The IRS and the secretary of state are the two most important entities you notify immediately when you decide you want to be con I gave you the secretary of state. I didn't It doesn't matter. You need to do the IRS. You need to do the IRS. I told you the two most important entities, they don't they're they're so important. You didn't, notify the IRS of your revocation of election. Okay. I'll let Sherry talk. I don't know what to tell you to do.
[02:49:02] Unknown:
Alright. Now this is for everybody. You wanna turn a voluntary document into a compelled document because a compelled document, they cannot use against you in a court of law. You just simply write on the bottom of it. Only submitting in order to be and I put paid on the w four because that's what that document is used for. But you could put that language on any any document that they are requesting information from you on. You turn it from voluntary into a compelled document. Only submitting in order to be fill in the blank, and I yield.
[02:49:52] Unknown:
What would the other instances, Sherry? Only submitting an order to be besides being paid on the w four, what would be other language that you could use that for, please? Thank you.
[02:50:03] Unknown:
Well, that's the only reason I've ever used it. But it just changes, your volunteerism into being compelled from them, and they cannot use a compelled document against you in a court of law. That's if we have lawful courts, which we don't. Why can't you just sign at TDC? Your name and TDC Well, I guess you could. I'm just saying you you write it out for the ones who have no idea what, initials stand for, that acronym stands for. Well, the last I mean, it's clear and plain. Right. Hey. But I found something, that I really wanna share with the group, and it's another kind of plea, and it's a dilatory plea.
[02:50:59] Unknown:
And here's the definition of it. Hang on. Hang on. Let's put the tax thing to bed. If you're thinking about, about, claiming eight, nine, or 10, whatever, dependents, You really can't do that because if you look down at the signature line, you know, there is an affirmation there that I claim that all answers on this former true and correct. It's kinda sort of signing it under penalty of perjury. So when they come back at you asking for the on that. Yeah. When they come back at you asking for a Social Security numbers of all your dependents, you cannot list your pet. You you cannot list your pet turtle. You cannot list your dog.
You cannot list your neighbor's kids because you give them cookies every now and then. You cannot list anything but those dependents that immediately live in your house and lie to your face when you ask them, did you do that? That's the only ones
[02:52:05] Unknown:
that you can claim. So That is that is absolutely correct.
[02:52:10] Unknown:
What is the false filing, penalty now? What's the state for false filing?
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5000.
[02:52:18] Unknown:
5000.
[02:52:19] Unknown:
Really? Okay. Well, he's got 5,000 numbers.
[02:52:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well well,
[02:52:27] Unknown:
I have first first hand knowledge on that situation because at my employer when, I went to try to update my w four, my HR department came back and told me that the legal department told me to just put more dependents, claim more dependents on my W-four so that I would have lesser taxes. And I said, well, that would be lying on a W-four form. So who informed you to tell me that? Because that's illegal. I don't have nine and ten dependents.
[02:53:01] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Well, unless, of course, you wanna count the neighbor kids that knock on my door on Halloween. Because because them little bastards are pushing. If they knock on your door and you don't answer it, they'll knock again. And if you give them a candy bar, if it ain't big enough, they'll say trick or treat again.
[02:53:26] Unknown:
Anyway,
[02:53:29] Unknown:
Yeah. And, Wahid, when you do notice the IRS, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please do not forget lawful legal notice not to be considered a filing. Yep. Put that shit right on there. Tell them it's not a filing, then they cannot give you a frivolous filing penalty. Because if it doesn't say that, they're gonna try and try and consider that communication of filing.
[02:54:05] Unknown:
Paul?
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:54:09] Unknown:
Also, if you get a passport immediately, you can include a photocopy of the front and back of that passport with every notice you send out, and that passport number shows you are a national. Right.
[02:54:26] Unknown:
Well, there are some people that can't get passports because my son, who is who works as a bartender and still has $3,800 a month in child support obligations for two children, he is kind of in arrears, so there's no way they would give him a passport.
[02:54:49] Unknown:
So there's gotta be some Well, there's exceptions for every rose. Some people have baggage, but if you don't have that baggage, you can do that.
[02:54:59] Unknown:
Well, his baggage is a little compromise. Baggage is a manic depressive crazy cat lady.
[02:55:08] Unknown:
That's his baggage. Hey, Sherry. I'm like I'm sorry for any more questions. Go ahead.
[02:55:17] Unknown:
Who is no. Go ahead. Who is this, Annette?
[02:55:21] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:55:23] Unknown:
Oh, I thought you were taking a year off. My, how time flies. I know. You're missing somebody. That's
[02:55:29] Unknown:
awesome.
[02:55:30] Unknown:
Holy shit. I mean, I've been missing you just terrible. I am so glad I am so glad that time flies when you're missing somebody. Welcome back.
[02:55:42] Unknown:
I thought you hey, Sherry.
[02:55:45] Unknown:
I'd like to hear about the Dylan Dylan oh, well, okay. Anyway, tell me about the the new painting. How are you?
[02:55:52] Unknown:
Careful how you say that.
[02:55:54] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:56:07] Unknown:
Okay. I'm back To my laptop. I was outside smoking. And, anyway, so it's a dilatory, d I a d I l a t o r y. A dilatory plea. And I'll give you Black's Fourth definition of it. A class of defenses at common law founded on some matter of fact not connected with the merits of the case, but such as might exist without impeaching the right of action itself. They were either pleased to the jurisdiction showing that by reason of some matter, therein stated, the case was not within the jurisdiction of the court, or pleas in suspension showing some matter of temporary incapacity to proceed with the suit, or pleas in abatement showing some matter of abatement or quashing the declaration.
So I found that quite interesting. The prosecutor in my court case used that term dilatory. It caused me to look it up, and lo and behold, I found that there's a plea regarding that. So I found it quite interesting.
[02:57:30] Unknown:
Can you spell it one more time? I'm sorry.
[02:57:34] Unknown:
D I l d as in dog, I l a t o r y.
[02:57:42] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:57:43] Unknown:
And he used that word, while he was calling me a sovereign citizen. I yield.
[02:57:59] Unknown:
So he was admitting to it. Did you object to that?
[02:58:06] Unknown:
Yes. I did.
[02:58:08] Unknown:
Then how did you how did you say it? I I object on the ground stand. Right No. No. You have to you have to speak it on the record. I object.
[02:58:20] Unknown:
I am not a sovereign citizen. But then I turned around and put it into the court record in paper and ink form as well because they didn't let me object in open court. Why not? I mean, I did object. I put my objection forward, and the prosecutor said, may I have my time back? It's not her time to talk. And so
[02:58:43] Unknown:
You can object at any time.
[02:58:47] Unknown:
I know it's on the record, but it was Paul, you know, how they ramrod you through.
[02:58:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they only ramrod you through if you allow them to.
[02:58:58] Unknown:
If you allow them. But, you know, sure, in a in a way, he's he's acknowledging that there is a stat by by putting that tied to the sovereign citizen, even though we know sovereign citizen term is incorrect, there is some acknowledgment there that there is another.
[02:59:18] Unknown:
That's why I brought it forward to you all.
[02:59:22] Unknown:
Thank you. You're
[02:59:24] Unknown:
welcome. No. I'm not cutting you off in that. I'm just saying we're in agreement, and, there are, case sites regarding that, and they're within, the definition of Black's Law Fourth. And it's my understanding that you should not use even the fifth. I haven't looked this up, but that there is, a warning on the fifth edition talking about changing of terms and words. So I haven't read it myself. That was just brought to me by someone else. I
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Can anybody hear me?
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No.
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No.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
Why? Yeah.
[03:00:51] Unknown:
Barely. Hey, but, Paul, before you continue, may I just make a a Paul, I have lost my audio, and FCC twice had to leave the meeting and come back in. I can see everybody's bubbles going, but there's no audio. Is this my laptop? Or Gotta be your laptop
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because I haven't lost audio yet. And you don't even wanna know what match machinations and and, weird hoops I'm jumping through to be able to hear you guys. You don't even wanna know.
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Thank you, Paul.
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Chat's been really, really busy today. Holy crap. I've emailed messages. That's been real busy.
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May I, may I, no. Okay. I have to call What, for Todd and his group, what does DWG DWG, before on earth stand for again? I forgot. He mentioned it.
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Down with God.
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What is it? Sorry. Down with God?
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Yeah. On Earth and then the rest of it says on Earth.
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Yeah. And then, Joan, what are those apps that you were talking about, today? Because I'd like to get those.
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Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have to look them up. I mean, they're on my phone, but they're I have to look up the, actual whole long name rather than just look at the, the thing that you press on my I press on my screen. I I'll I'll get back with you, Julie.
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Okay. Thank you, Joan.
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Another way to handle those, repossessions on a car would be the way that Brady did it in Canada. He's still driving it. It's just on territorial jurisdiction rumble channel, a longer winded rant episode, and, it's probably from 2022. He basically sent the queen the bill at Yelp.
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Okay, guys. It's okay.
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Let's, let's take the stream down so I can get this, get this archived processed and all that. Thank you so much for joining us for today's exciting episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. You will find the FCC links so you can join us live on the show and the links to Euro Folk Global Voice and a a whole bunch of other stuff, downloadables, exhibits, interviews. It is literally a plethora of information, a drink from a fire hose for sure. Thank you for joining us. We'll be here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. Thank you so much for being here. We love each and every one of you. Ciao.
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Tax the rich, feed the poor, and tell they're on
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As would we, Alvin. As would we. We're trying. Gonna take another stab at it here on the Wednesday Wednesday edition of the Radio Ranch. It's, August 6, clipping right through the last month of the summer. Radio Ranch, the name of our little get together for personal reasons, and Roger Sales, your host. So let's see. On Wednesday, have we accumulated any more, associates, or are we still, back to the basics, Paul, here?
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Well, we're kinda back to the basics. We've got, radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy, across the pond. I had a nice discussion with you. Excuse me. I I had a nice discussion with him yesterday afternoon. We were talking about, trying to locate the, the attorney general general of Great Britain. You know, we're trying to actually nail down a a mailing address for the guy. That was kind of fun. And we're also on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we're on Global Voice Radio Network, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Links to, Eurofocal and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs.com, where you'll also find links to free conference call and you'll find the phone numbers so you can actually dial in to the show, or you can connect with an app, a smartphone, a computer. I mean, however, actually, if you if you're calling from a telephone with a cellular provider that charges you out of network or long distance charges for calling conference lines, just text call me to the dial in number (609) 663-1976, and the system will call you back. And then you can camp out as long as you want. It's an inbound call, and they can't charge you a dime.
Gotta love
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that. Morning, Ross. Yep. That's pretty slick. Morning, Paul. My sense is as that if you the first thing you ought to do over there with the Brits because here's the deal. These people always are they're very repetitive. If they find something that works, they just repeat it and cookie cut it. Right. So our laws are a little bit different. Structures are a little bit different. Names and labels are a little bit different. But the first thing they need to find out on is who issues passports. K. Because that should be should be the key to all the laws as opposed to, finding out who the attorney general is as you go because that one will handle anything underneath. But then you do need to find out who is the,
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head of the laws over there. But I'll bet you they'll find their answers,
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with who issues passports for the initial thrust, if you will, of, removing yourself. So that's what I'd I'd suggest they look into. One of these days, I'll probably get a chance to talk to Hannah maybe and give her some of this guidance that we've learned through, you know, the hard way, trial and error.
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But, actually, what we were able to find was we were able to find The UK visa and citizenship application services. We didn't think that was it. UK visas in immigration Liverpool, but we also found citizenship department of internal affairs London office, and that's the one that we guess to be the, lord of the manor. Okay.
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Well, cool. Well, yeah, who once again, the passport has got something to do with this because I'm sure it's the same in England. They're under Vatel's Law of Nations too. Mhmm. And, they have to accurately portray the person they're presenting to a foreign country. So Mhmm. Just suggestions. Just suggestions. Anyway, I hope I'm glad I told Paul when we were talking privately that, of course, he has he lost his wife, fairly recently, a few months back. She had dementia, So it wasn't it it made his life extremely demanding because he was having to do all the cooking, take care of her.
You know, he's good. The boys are old enough to take care of themselves, early twenties, but still puts a strain on the family. And so I told Paul, I know you loved her and all that. And, but, she is in a better place, and and you are freed up now. And I think that getting through the grief part of that, everybody has to grieve on no matter you know, I knew people that the spouses hated each other, and when they got a divorce, it was really hard on them. You know? But that, it was better for him. He grieved. He had a couple of months to get through that, and I could hear the excitement and enthusiasm in his voice. And he was reenergized and had a project that had substance and importance and all the things this project does.
And, that it had kinda given him a new life after her demise, and he agreed with that. And, so I think it's a good thing for Paul and everybody else over there that and we've had success here for many years, understand the system basically and how it works when they take over a country and their similarities there. I've I've seen them, studied them for so many years, Paul. They always repeat success. They always repeat success even to their own detriment, actually, because they have to do it that way because it's always worked. And they risk if they deviate running into things they've never had to run into before.
So in an ironic sense, they're tied to their success, which becomes a Achilles heel of sorts because it makes them predictable. So, that's, you know, my 2¢ on it that I've noodled through all these years. Good morning, audience. Hope everybody's doing good. Middle of the week, we don't have Hi, Roger. Well, that must be Gigi, I'm guessing. Good morning, Gigi. Yes. We do. Do we have Mark? Hi. Hi. Hope you're doing good this morning. Do we have Mark with us by any chance? I was hoping he was gonna show today, but I don't know what his situation is with his parents. So we had and I didn't reach out to him. So I'll just see if he, shows up. What's, what's on your mind? I think he's emailed.
What's on your mind this morning? He still hasn't emailed me back, so he's probably Well, he's been Well, he's yeah. He's swamped. You know? He's got elderly parents. Yeah. He's gotta try and take care of both of them and, you know, plus all the stuff he normally does. He told he said a while back, his mother can't even cook anymore. So he's having to now do the cooking like Paul was having to do. Uh-huh. So, so he's, got his hands full. Anyway, how are you doing this morning, Gigi?
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I am wonderful. I wanted to address something because I know there's a lot of new people coming on your show and, from, Todd's group. And, I wanted if you can briefly, like, for the new people that's coming in, it might be some new people on, but if you can go over, like, the affidavit and the cover letter because I think there's a lot of confusion about the cover letter and the affidavit because I know some people are, they're simple. They are, right, they what they're doing is they're getting the, cover letter notarized
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and the affidavit. No. You don't have to do that. Yeah. So It's just listen. It's so simple. And I understand you're new. You're scared of these guys. You you're afraid if you put one comma in the wrong place, it's not gonna work. That's all wrong. K? First of all, that's all wrong. Yeah. It it so it's very simple. The affidavit, I suggest you use the one on our website. It's airtight, but you can do whatever you want. You can use the one sentence from the, state department website over there on the Mhmm. Certificate of noncitizen nationality, IGG. Do solemnly swear my intent to be a national, not a citizen of The United States? You can make it that simple.
The other one, if you Yeah. It's a little expanded, a little more specific, you can use that. Whatever floats your boat as they say. Okay? Right. Now I would say get it notarized, and then you send it with a cover Well, it's best that you get it notarized. You don't have to. It can be sent in as not an affidavit, but a declaration. Either one will work. The affidavit is just a little bit better because they have to rebut it. They have to rebut your facts and sign it under penalty of perjury. They can, and they won't ever do that. So it just it's actual an affidavit is considered properly formed, properly executed, properly notarized, presented to the proper authority, and unrebutted stands as the highest truth of of fact and law. K?
Mhmm. You're the king of the mountain. Alright? So that's why we suggest you do that. You don't have to do that. I've used here I renewed my passport about a year and a half ago, and I just used a declaration. Because down here, notaries are lawyers, And I have to pay some of them $80 to go get it notarized. And then then they want apostilles, which are copies in English of what you have in Spanish. And all that is just a nightmare. You know? And so, easier to just do a declaration, send it in. It worked. Alright? Now the cover letter Okay.
The cover letter is quite simple. At the top of it, if you're talking depending on what you're talking to. If you're putting it to the secretary of state, all you need to put at the top of your cover letter is legal lawful notice. Capital letters, I'd suggest. K? Legal lawful numbers. You send it to the secretary of state, mister Rubio, and it's very, very simple language. It's not complex. It's, you know, you're a layman. Right? Please find the enclosed citizenship affidavit or my enclosed citizenship, evidence. Excuse me. Not affidavit. Evidence. Please Mhmm. Correct all records as to my new status.
Something like that. We used to say put it in your administrative file, and they go, we don't have administrative files anymore. Well, you do it all digitally. So you're just telling them to correct all the records they've got they can access as to my new status. And thank you. And you send it to them. Now there's nothing difficult about that.
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Absolutely.
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Okay? Yep. And they can't rebut it. They can't deny it. So they have to stand mute, which means they accept it. And in the big picture, it means they, actually, they, convict themselves because they can't deny it. There's the facts. So this is here. It's been hidden. It you know? And and so, technically, they convict themselves by not being able to say anything and deny it, don't they?
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Yeah.
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Okay. That's all there is to it? Because they always acquiesce anyway. Well, they, yeah, generally. Now if you're gonna take that after you've sent it to the secretary of state, and now you're gonna notify the federal agencies that you wanna notify that that's been done. Mhmm. The first one that generally people always want is IRS. Right?
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So Yep.
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You take that affidavit, a copy of it, and you do another cover letter to the IRS. And at the top, you put big large letters, if you can, legal, lawful notice. And underneath that, specifically for the IRS, you put not to be considered or construed as a filing. Filing. Mhmm. Filing. Like, you're filing a ten forty four? Right. Mhmm. And the reason for that is they haven't done this. They've threatened it a time or two, to, whip a $5,000 frivolous filing penalty on you for giving them notice on a legal document. And that statement is so they that curtails that objection because it's not a violent. It's a it's a notice. It's a service.
K? And then you push something simple like, please find the enclosed citizenship evidence now on file with the secretary of state of The United States Of America. Please, correct please, oh, what's the word I want? Please, adjust your records accordingly. Something to that. Mhmm. Yeah. Nothing hard. Okay. And then you now but the new thing, the new twist here, I think we should do for everybody's benefit rather than fight this battle later, is put the state your state taxing authority in as a carbon copy or what's called a cc at the bottom. They do. The Michigan taxing authority, whatever it is, and you would send them a exact same copy of what you're sending to the IRS.
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Gotcha.
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Okay? So there's the VINs done. Unless you got other. Now if you got other ones now let's say the example that you're trying you want to build a pond in the back of your property, and the EPA says it's some kind of a water whatever, one of these stupid ass agencies and they're crap. Well, if you want that agency put on notice, then you probably should do the head guy in DC. And I'll cc at the bottom the regional guy for that agency because they all have regional guys. And whoever the local guy is, that's the, local agent, especially if he's dinging you. So if it were going off in one of those other situations, you'd wanna make sure you get everybody. I don't think that's necessary at IRS.
Just send it to the head guy. Might be just you can do the same thing with the other agencies too. I mean, we're plowing new ground here. Nobody's ever done this before. There are no set set of instructions. We're kinda having to make this up as we go along. And when we find some hole that we didn't understand or realize, we try and incorporate it just like I told you of notifying the state taxing authority on the IRS thing. We should have been doing that for a long time. Okay?
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So that's all we need. For your state.
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Alright. Now do you wanna go over to the local side? You're just doing the feds now. That's the feds. Okay? Right. So in Michigan, you're going to do another letter, cover letter, short and simple, and you're gonna send it to your attorney general, miss Mhmm. Whatever name is, whatever you assume.
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It's Nitzel.
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Nitzel. Whatever your name is. Nesel. Yeah. Nesel is something. Mhmm. So you're gonna wanna put it on there. At the top of that letter, you're gonna wanna put legal waffle notice.
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Yep.
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And underneath that, you're gonna wanna put this phrase. Notice to the principal is notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal.
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Mhmm.
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Now what you're doing is you're locking all these people together under the laws of agency. Like, real estate agents are under, insurance agents are under, the federal government's under. Anybody that's in a relationship called agency is under the laws of agency. Mhmm. And that statement locks them together. I'll explain why in a minute. So then you send that to miss Nessel. Please find the, enclosed my enclosed citizenship evidence now on file with the secretary of state of The United States Of America. Please adjust your records and your agents' records or let's see. Please adjust any records accordingly.
Mhmm. According to my new status or however you wanna word it. Doesn't have to be fancy. Doesn't have to be long. You don't have to put all this sui juris and pro persona and all the other patriot stuff. Don't don't put that in there. You don't need to. I know you know it. I know you spent time studying, but you don't have to wave that flag right here. You wanna keep this as absolutely simple as possible. K? Absolutely. Good. So then you're gonna cc at the bottom of that one. You're gonna cc your local sheriff. You're gonna cc your local police chief if you have one.
Mhmm. You're going to cc the whoever the public, the, prosecutor is in your area that dockets cases, speeding, whatever. Okay. The guy that puts that from being a charge and a ticket onto the docket of a court. So you wanna put him on notice. Now
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Okay.
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Most of them are they're not gonna know what what they're receiving. Because remember that. Mhmm. We can't impute that into them because they just don't teach a lot of this stuff in law schools anymore. K? Right. Because they think everybody's over here under their thumb.
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K?
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So, what is happening there, because you've locked them in with the laws of agency, if your local police chief, one of his deputies gives you a ticket, and he's been put on notice or his boss has Mhmm. Then they're acting outside of their delegated responsibilities. Mhmm. You see that? They've got they've all they've got this job, but they can only act within certain parameters and and screw with people that they have jurisdiction over. Well, they don't have that with you anymore. So if they come and do that, now not only do they, this is theoretical, lose their cloak of immunity, but because you've tied them together into the laws of agency, so does miss Nestle.
And you should be able to sue them theoretically in their personal capacity, and they can't throw up. I was just doing my job. No. You won't. K? So that that's why you do that. It's really relatively simple. I know if you're brand new and you're just getting hit with all of this stuff, a lot of this is overwhelming. But really, when you get into it, it's very simple. I mean, all they've done here is they've made and switch. They set up. They took the black man. They took him off the Southern plantation. They put him on the federal plantation under a new slavery scheme, and they've tricked you into being him and admitting to being him. Tricked. That's all that's going on here.
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Yep. The switcheroo. They did a bait and reverse.
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It's a bait and switch. Mhmm. You know, it's really easy. Don't let all the other things, the accoutrements that they put in there, like all this word, the opposite definitions and hidden all of these labels and stuff and change the label on all these same things. All that's just to confuse you. When you get past all that, it's incredibly simple how they put us into it, how they tricked us into agreeing with it, and how easy it is to get out of it. I mean, it's just sitting here. It amazes me all these years down the road because I've thought like you guys too. I had to fight through all this for years. And when you get past it, you look back and go, damn, there ain't nothing to this.
It's just a little trick. Yeah. It's just a it's just like on the first time I heard the word equivocation and went to Webster's 1828 law dictionary, gave the definition. And at the bottom, he wrote notes on that particular version that I was looking at. And it said, this trick is often used by non Christians to fool Christians. How much as simpler can you get? So that, anybody have any anybody have any questions on that process? I'm gonna assume no. Okay. So, well, what else have you got for us this morning, Gigi? Nothing?
Roger. Well, there's Larry. He's always got something. Let me just finish up with Gigi. Gigi, do that take care of you, sweetie? Silence deems consent. Okay. See, we apply those principles here on the show. Larry, what you got this morning? Yeah. Thank you so much. You're welcome, sweetie. What you got this morning, Larry?
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Yeah. Good morning. Would you, agree that what you just described to this new student is known in the legal definitions as a unilateral declaration?
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Oh, yeah. I guess that would fit it. Yeah.
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And so would you agree that it's very important that one makes that unilateral declaration to the correct person in order to change their citizenship status? If you don't
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correct it the right person, then they're not gonna recognize it. Period. That's what stopped John and Glenn right there was they didn't know about the secretary of state. They told us to file it in the property records office, and the IRS came back with $500 frivolous filings. Penalties is 5,000 now. I got three of them.
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K? So Yeah. That's exactly what happened. Not important. What's
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the It's not important. It's mandatory.
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Right. That's exactly what happened to Wesley Snipes. Are you familiar with his story?
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Kinda. Barnes was his attorney.
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Yeah. The the IRS, came back and said that he cannot just make a unilateral declaration because he was claiming during the the the court sessions, I guess, in his in his documents, that he was a nonresident alien, and he was not, liable for, you know, many of the the IRS codes and regulations. And they came back and said that he was not allowed to make a unilateral declaration. And I think that's because, like your teachers, he was attempting to make that declaration to the IRS,
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and he didn't, you know, he didn't make that declaration to the correct person. Would you agree with that? What about the copper moonshine still cite over there? I don't remember the case. It's an appellate level case unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States. The IRS can go on to assessment and collections. Well, he didn't prove it. He just made a statement. The only way you can prove it is to go to the lord of the manner who's in charge of all matters concerning citizenship and tell him very simply in one sentence, no. I'm not that. I'm this. Once that's been done, they would had to recognize in court.
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Hey, Roger. It's William, I guess.
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Hey, William. But, let's okay. Let's you got something to add on to this?
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Yeah. Except for the op operation of law. Okay. That's the piece of the
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Right. You've got to do this lawfully and legally.
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Yeah. The the missus Robinson letter says you can't make a unilateral declaration
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except by operation of law. Well, there you go. And operational law is going to the right guy and giving it to him. I I maintain I've told you a number of times, if John and Glenn would have and, you know, you could go back and say they should have known this. Okay. But I understand they were totally focused on the tax issue. They didn't look at stuff like this and, unfortunately. And if that would have happened back then, I believe we'd live in a different country because they can't stop this.
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As you like to say, Roger, is Mattel's law of nations operable enough?
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Yeah. Right. So, anyway, that's, what happened with Wesley Snipes right there, Larry. And still Barnes doesn't know all this. You know, maybe one of these days, we'll cross paths with Barnes. We could get a couple of these attorneys, Tom Rentz, Barnes, Calendar. We get a couple of these attorneys on this. Man, it's they make our work a lot easier. So what else? Hey, William. Good morning, by the way. Good morning. Good morning. William is the audience. William is the, flyboy that flies people around and, had one of his, clients as a magistrate judge. And he starts taking my stuff and using it on the judge.
And they ask him what the legal meaning of person was, and a sitting magistrate judge didn't know. A sitting magistrate judge did not know the legal concept behind the word person, folks. Right, William?
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Yep. That's exactly what happened.
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So you can't impute with these people you're dealing with that they understand this. Hell, they they're they're more functionally illiterate in some areas of law than you are already. So this is what they've been doing. They've been hiding all these things like they do. I I like to say, I don't remember what tribe it was. There's one of those tribes out west like the Sioux or the Blackfeet or somebody, and they were expert at tracking. And, for instance, they would creep up very slowly on a hill to look over into the valley to see the cavalry. And then when they did that, they would turn around and have a brush or a switch, and they would sweep out their footprints.
That's what these guys do. Roger? Yes. Larry.
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Yeah. And just to highlight again just how important sending an affidavit to the secretary of state is, here's what the, the claim was of Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes was, convicted in 2008 on three misdemeanor courts or, excuse me, three misdemeanor counts of willful failure to file income tax returns for the years 1999 to 02/2001, though he was acquitted of felony charges for conspiracy and filing, filing false claims. During his defense, his tax arguments were influenced by, quote, tax protester, end quote, theories, including the idea that he was not required to file returns as a sovereign citizen or nonresident alien.
And secondly, the revocation of election theory, which suggests that a person can revoke their election to be taxed under title 26, the Internal Revenue Code. And here's what the court said, the legal reality is the revocation of election is a theory promoted by tax protesters based on the idea that one can opt out of income tax by revoking their election to be treated as a taxpayer. This argument has been rejected in every federal court that has reviewed it. It holds no legal merit because, and there's three reasons that the IRS gives, US tax liability is based on objective facts, which include income, citizenship, and domicile.
And then secondly, you cannot unelect statutory obligations by unilateral declaration. And thirdly, the courts classify such arguments as frivolous, and, and penalties often apply.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, all all all it was missing there was he didn't send it to the secretary of state. If that's if he just sent it and known that since the secretary of state of The US, a, he he none of that would have applied to him. They wouldn't have come after him. Because, see, they don't like to lose on those kind of technicalities. I'll show you another one in there. They I don't know if Barnes pursued it or not. I believe it was already out in the community, and that's willful. Wilful. The Cheeks. The Cheeks, decision from the nineties.
Cheeks was a airline pilot who challenged the taxes on that aspect of being willful, willful failure to file. And he said, I studied all this stuff, and I I don't see where I've got an obligation to file. And by golly, he won at the Supreme Court. And so everybody a couple of law firms, everybody wanted to go do the cheat defense, the willfulness defense. And, but that's still out there. That's still good law. But that's something I don't think it sounds like Barnes, went after. Anyway, all of that stuff in this discussion, IRS, they take your house, they take your car, they garnish your wages, all that. Well, they can only do that if they've got jurisdiction. If you've done this affidavit and put the IRS on notice, they don't have any more jurisdiction, and they can't fight it.
But it was nobody understood. It's the feudal system, and you gotta go through the secretary of state. That's all. That's all. So okay. Thank you, Larry. Poor old Wesley. Anyway, that's another one of those tax things. And you if you're out talking to people, folks, and you're new, and you're going to get this objection. Oh, I know I had a friend who lost his house. Oh, this, that, and the other. Well, that's probably true. I don't have any argument with that, but they just didn't know what they were doing. This is a very complex little issue. And, but once you know this secretary of state thing, it's the key to everything. I wish Mark was here today.
It's just like he says, it just everything's answered. Bam. Okay? With just understanding the national thing and how to change your status, and I thought it was very interesting. I've thought about it another a time or two more. Mentioned it yesterday that that person Mike was telling us about was, said the only person in the state that's got the authority to deal with you now is this, attorney general. I think that's true. That's pretty cool. So they look. They were never expecting anybody to figure this out. You can tell for the new people. I know we've got it on the website somewhere. It's in the book.
It's a piece of paper found in Woodrow Wilson's, belongings after he died from House, his handler, colonel House, who lays the whole scheme out. He says at the very first, we will well, I can't quote this exactly. I'm paraphrasing. We will use them as sureties by invoking the ancient pledge. First sentence. What's the ancient pledge? Todd, you got any idea? Gigi, you got any ideas with the ancient pledges?
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Good morning, Roger. No. But I'm ready to listen and learn.
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It's called Yeah. Meet him with Roger.
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It's called the oath of fealty. You can go look it up on the web, e f e a l t y. You can go look it up on the Internet if you wanna. Go search up Monty Python's holy grail. He's got an example of an oath of filthy in that movie. It's the old oath on how you volunteered into voluntary servitude. You'd go to the lord of the manor, say, you know, I'm things are tough down there in Old England. The coal mine's getting pretty dirty. It's dangerous. Well, I've been trying to look for a better way for mama and the kids. You got another 40 acres and a mule for me? That's basically what it is.
And he go, yeah. I got one over there for you, but you gotta go through this oath. It's a contract. It's called a parole, p a r o l e, contract. That means it's, oral. K? And so, they get all the serfs of the manor around them in a circle, so they're witnesses. They're witnesses to a contract. And you, being the person coming into servitude, would get in front of the lord of the manor and kneel on both knees. That's very important. You only kneel on both knees to God. You kneel on both knees to in front of the lord of the manor, he would stand over you. You would put your hands on your head as if you were praying. He would place his hands over your hands, and you would say a pledge to give your body and all your worldly possessions to the lord of the manor as property.
That's why you gave him your possessions because as property, he has a property right in you. And because he's got a property right in you, you don't own anything. That's why in your car, you've got a certificate of title. It's not the title. It's a certificate of title. That's why your house, even if you've got it paid off and it's not off the property rolls and you don't pay your property taxes, they can sell it on the courthouse steps. Tax sale. It's because you've got a property right on you and you can't own things. K?
And so you would state that, and the witnesses would be there, the other serfs on the manor, and you have entered an oral contract with the lord of the manor. And then from then on, you and mama are both property, and so any children that you have are born into the same condition. Just like if you have a bull and a cow out in the back and they produce a calf, that calf's yours. Same principle. Okay? And this particular contract is a silent contract except for when you entered it, and it runs silently generationally. So you can see when you get your arms around this why they like the feudal system so much.
Because they own you. K? And so if you yeah. Yes, ma'am. I just said control. They want control of everyone. Well, yeah. They want control of everything. You know? It's like Rockefeller said he said, I don't wanna own everything, but I wanna control everything. Same thing. So, now you're in this silent contract that runs generationally. Here's where we come in. Because it's voluntary, at any point, let's say, eight generations later, you got a good lord of the manor and the people that are his serfs like it and he treats them good, they got no reason to leave.
But it goes like seven or eight generations. The lord of the manor changes, and the new one's a a badass, and all you have to do is go to him and tell him you're breaking the contract to leave. That's the secretary of state. On a big manor, they'd have different lords over different aspects of the manor. So you could say that the secretary of state is the lord of the federal manor overseeing all matters concerning citizenship, since there's two. K? So that's where all that comes from, and that's what that sentence was saying. We will secure them. We'll make them sureties by invoking the ancient pledge.
And then he goes on down and he spells out what they're planning on doing. And at the end, he says, well, if one or two people ever figure it out, we've got plausible deniability. This is colonel House. See, they never expected anybody to figure this out. That was back, over a hundred years ago. That was back in Woodrow Wilson's time in the nineteen teens. So, there you go. So you're volunteering yourself. You pledge your body and your worldly goods. I was going into this the other day, and I got sidetracked. If you go to Black's Law Dictionary, Todd, I know you said you had one of those.
If you go to Black's Law, what version do you have, Todd? Do you know?
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I have the eighth edition, Roger. But from my understanding, the first four is the better ones because I guess they started doing some fancy stuff after that. Well, they changed a lot of stuff after Westlaw bought it. You I would say the green cover, the sixth
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was considered about the best edition. If you can you you probably can't find any of the other ones. You can find them online. But, the sixth edition with the green cover is very good. They started changing stuff in the seventh. So I know they've done a lot of tricks to the eighth, but they won't have messed with this. And if you wanna go in and look in Black's Law Dictionary in your eighth edition there, Todd, you go back to the v's and you look at villain. Now we call it in England a villain. And but because this is from William the Conqueror bringing over the French and all the other stuff that they imposed on England, it's spelled v I l l e I n.
V I l l e I n. And, no. The women were called knaves, by the way. And, if you look under, there's a a number of different types of villains. And if you look under the one we think that they're, using here is called a villain regardant, r e g a r d a n t, I think. And if you look at that definition, it will say a villain attached to the land property, attached to the land, and transferrable by deed. Like, when somebody sells a bond, your birth certificate that's attached to it is the deed so you can sell bonds and transfer the villainage. See?
So there it is right there in black and white. That's the ancient pledge.
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And that's why they were Roger, I'm sorry. It's tough. You're you're very good. I'm try I'm in my black's law right now. You said Billine. Is it v I l l e I n?
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Should be.
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Unless they've changed that. You want me to read what the eight
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Well, yeah, you can read it. I mean, there should be a number of different types of villains, and then there's one overall once you read what it says. Oh, my
[00:43:52] Unknown:
I over the eight, ten years, I turned the page, and I got all the different one villainage. I got them all highlighted.
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Well, regarding Okay. We may be wrong. It's just a stab. I think regarding is the one you're looking for, but all of them have little different characteristics. And some of them you couldn't sell off of the land. But if they sold the land, the villain would run with the land. So there's a lot of stipulations
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like that. A a so a a villain in gross. So a villain who was annexed to a person of the Lord and transferred by deed from one owner to another. Yeah. Billing in gross. Very similar.
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Anyways okay. Go ahead. Well, I'm just saying the reason they like this is because they control everything and they own everything, and now they can take this principle of them having a property right on you. That's the basis of their whole system. They come in and use the birth certificate as a warehouse receipt. We went over the hospital procedure on how that happens. Thanks to Brian Howard, who was with us yesterday for a few minutes. It's the one that found that. So they take that warehouse receipt, and they they take that CUSIP number at the bottom and attach it to a bond. And the reason they use that CUSIP number, in my understanding anyway, is that routes the payment to the coupon to the bondholder.
So the birth certificate is used in that manner hold just a second. It's used in that manner, and then then they go through the whole bond issue thing. And that's where you're attached to the land. You're a piece of property, and now you are attached to the future of the country, and that is by deed. And the deed is the warehouse receipt because a deed denotes ownership, doesn't it? Doesn't it?
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Yes.
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Okay. Well, there it is right there, right in front of you. And the other reason they do it is because now with a property right on you, they can now build up an administrative state of administrative agencies that take the law that's passed by the congress and reinterpret it in their subject matter jurisdiction. And then they what's called promulgate regulations, and they put them out there. You can go look at them in the federal register. That's the legal organ of the USA. And go look at all these regulations that all these agencies are promulgating to apply well, some of them apply to the serves, not all of them.
So now who was saying Roger a minute ago? Is that Todd or Dave? It's Dave. Good morning, Rod. Okay. Good morning, Dave. What do you got? Well, I'm sure
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I'm sure we all remember the villain, villain, Snidely Whiplash. Right? The banker, mortgagor, who stole the property and tried to tie Nell to the to the railroad tracks and and, what's his name? Dudley Do Right saves the day.
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That was Canadian, didn't it? Dudley Do Right? Yeah.
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Yeah. Dudley Do Right. The mountain police.
[00:47:18] Unknown:
Dudley Do Right. The mountain police. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's a lot of sinister things in the background. You can see the the holy grail in some of those things, you know. When the the gal has got a a burning house on the edge of the cliff and it's on fire, and the only way out is through snidely whiplash, the evil guy. Come here, little girl. I'd like to give you some candy. Well, that's the holy grail. You don't know it. We haven't explained it yet, but that's what we're dealing with here. K. So, Todd, did that get your answer?
[00:47:57] Unknown:
Many, answer I'm not sure I had a question, but I had the it definitely was beautiful to hear all of that. It all makes sense. Absolutely. Hey. I want to tell you can I tell you one thing, Raj? Of course. I just got some good news. Okay. So I I I'm under the understanding, and I actually had to, change it in in my system from, talking to others and trying to go through all the system. But, the point of, after sending the affidavit, waiting like it's a package and so forth, I know that's important, but but the minute the the attendant at the post office, receives your certified mail of the declaration, you are free. But I just got a notification that it has arrived in Washington, DC.
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There you go. So you got your green card back. Well, you don't have to wait on all that. And the only reason that we've changed that, if you don't have any skeletons in your closet, like the guy from California or, dare I say, like Gigi, then you you send it in naked and wait about twenty days or so. That's just to give them some time to circulate that paper internally. We know bureaucracies don't work fast nor efficiently per se. And so you wait a little bit, then you apply for the passport. Now if they reject you because they found a skeleton in your closet, you can say, well, hold it. That doesn't apply to me because I sent this in two weeks ago to the secretary of state, and they didn't object. So it's on file or somewhere up there.
And so you can't charge me with that. At least here, if you do that, you've got some skeletons in your closet, you've got grounds for an administrative appeal. If you don't have that, you've got no grounds for an administrative appeal. They can keep your money, don't have to send you crap, then revoke your open passport. So that's why that's in there. Got it. I don't think that doesn't apply to very many people, but that's why it's in there. Yes. Was that Bob there that I heard? Speaking.
[00:50:01] Unknown:
Hey, Bob. Yeah. To add a little bit of color to the word villain, I'd encourage you to go in, not you necessarily, the listener. Go into the etymology of the word. It's related to the it's the same root as villa, village, and could roughly be translated as farm servant. So I suspect, and this is just my theorizing, I just enjoy reading into things, you know, not reading into it, but trying to interpret where words came from, how the meaning did evolve. But you can see the possibility of the upper echelon looking at a farm servant as being, you know, crass and crude and rude and vulgar to the point that that came to denote somebody of low character and sinister motives.
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Okay. Well, we certainly don't identify with that.
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Hey, Walter.
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I just love the knowledge and and all the graduates and all the new people that you meet. We can't do this alone. I just love the camaraderie. It's just beautiful. Thank you guys all so much.
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Hey, Roger. Who is that? Rod. Hold on. There are two, three people I've never spoken before. Who was that that just spoke?
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That was
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Todd. Oh, it was Todd? Okay. Yeah. I don't recognize his voice. I'm not totally identified with y'all's voices yet. Okay. Paul, you were trying to assist a couple other people work too, but they
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go ahead, Paul. Bill, Vil is the the root of villager, and, that would be citizen. And lien, denotes ownership or, servitude. So a lien is a citizen With a lien. Slave. With a lien with a lien on him. Right.
[00:52:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it could be. You sound like Chris Cave now. That's the the way he his mind works. The way his mind works was very unique. Those of you who Roger. Identify. Yeah. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. The I wanna explain just just like you did a little while ago, the importance of sending in a naked affidavit first, because there's a couple of reasons why the passport or the secretary of state or the department of state on which is what the, passport agency is under, they may reject your application due to criminal history. So it says individuals with certain felony convictions, such as international drug trafficking, murder, or other severe crimes, may be denied a passport, especially if they are on probation, parole, or have outstanding warrants. Second reason is unpaid child support. Those owing more than 2,500 in child support payments can be placed on a passport denial list. Third reason is defaulted loans or debts.
Outstanding federal loans or debts, including tax debt exceeding $50,000 can also lead to passport denial. And finally, court orders or legal restrictions. If a court order prohibits departure from The US or the jurisdiction of the court or if there's an extradition request, a passport application can be denied.
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Yeah. The first two are the most common. They just passed that back when I can't it didn't take effect too many years ago, the 50,000. There's one important thing that wasn't in what you just read. The 50,000 has to be in collections. Not in a court case, not in some administrative tribunal, in collections, which means it's gone through the whole thing. And now that's in collections, and they can't collect it. I have read or heard, I don't remember which, that one third of your taxes go to the bondholders. I'll show you where you can verify that.
One third goes to administrative expenses because they you notice that you'll never find the IRS in a federal building. They always rent their facilities. That's because they're foreign agents. I can prove that too. And, the other third are uncollectible. But if it's in collections, they can revoke they I think that I heard when that took effect on January, a few years back, that they revoked 250,000 passports in one day. People that had these tax, obligations. Now those people can go to the embassy, and they'll give them a passport, but it's only one way, and that's back.
Okay? So, that's part of it. And, what was the other part? I mean anyway, that's, the child support. And I had a guy here in Ecuador that contacted me about that, And he's, you know yeah. Look. You you fathered these children. You you you're not gonna be their daddy. At least you need to support them. So, anyway, those are two, two things they added along the way. So they can do that now because of those reasons.
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Can I say GG?
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Of course, please. Yes. GG again,
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I believe.
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So what he was just saying, far as criminal convictions and stuff like that, It has to be a conviction.
[00:55:53] Unknown:
No. I I I don't know. It didn't it didn't before in the one incident I dealt with this because the guy had drunk driving charges. Now I don't know. I don't get it in-depth enough with him to know if those had been turned into a conviction or they were still open charges. I just don't know. What Larry said was conviction. It may be just open charges. K? And I I don't know for sure. That's what I was playing. Just be safe department one day. It's like brother Dave Gardner. You probably never heard of him. He was an old southern comedian back when they used to put that stuff on records. He's out of Memphis, I think. And he was in an audience, and somebody like you asked him a question. And he and he he said, well, I don't know.
And and you said, well, but I thought you knew everything. And he said, well, I do know everything, but I don't know that. Yeah.
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Well, I wanna convictions because I got my passport. So
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Oh, okay. Now somebody who who's saying that right there?
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That's Tony. Tony Tony. Tony the wizard.
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Hey, Tony. Did you had just charges and you still got your passport? It wasn't a conviction? No. I had convictions, closed cases. I didn't have any open cases,
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but I had, had a convicted I was a convicted felon back in the
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day. Well, that's okay. As long as you serve your time, they can't deny you that. Okay? Now realize pardon me? I'm just Alright. Hold on. Talk right in your phone. Tony, talk right in your phone and slow down just a little bit. I wanna hear what you gotta say. Okay? Yeah. You had you were convicted. You served whatever they gave you and you got out of that. Correct? Yep. Well, they can't deny you because you've served your time. I think it's when you've got open charges that have not been decided yet. You haven't gone through and done your quote, unquote, retribution. And I think it's that. Okay? Which is very rare.
I this Gigi's only the second one we've ever had with this in in fifteen years. Okay? So this doesn't happen. Yeah. So
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right. So my question was, you were saying for my situation that once I send those notices out, wait a while, maybe twenty one days. Right? So this way, if they
[00:58:24] Unknown:
You've got to go I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told you the other day, first time this come up. You've got to go back to wherever this started and find out and try and get that cleared up. Because if you do that again, they're just gonna run it again. Now you might could, if you wanna try this, you could go back because here's another theory. You know, when we did the little r plus d equals r thing the other day, that little formula is so important. Well, see now, when you send your affidavit in, especially the cold one, you're no longer that legal personality, are you? See, your legal personality up to now has been I received rights under the fourteenth amendment and I owe correlative duties. Well, now that you filed this affidavit, you got a different legal personality. Right?
[00:59:14] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Because I'm coming in at the on our different status.
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You know, that might work, Gigi. It might work. I don't know. It's a very rare set of searches. I'm trying to see Roger because I already sent it out. It'll be down Friday. Hold on, Gigi. Just a second. You pipe down the whistlers, and we don't have anybody to say goodbye to today. Right, Paul? We don't. Alright, Gigi. Go ahead.
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I was saying I went on ahead and sent out the cold one to the state already. Fantastic. It'll be there on Friday. Uh-huh. So I I'm just I'm not operating
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as a fiction. I'm operating as the living woman. So Well, you weren't a fiction before. That. You won't hold it. Hold it. Let's get things straight. You weren't a fiction before you were a serf.
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Right.
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Okay? That's not a fiction. It is real. And you agreed to it every time they ask you throughout your adult life. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Yes. Yes. And you signed something. You were involuntary servitude. You weren't a corporation. You weren't a dead entity with capital letters. You weren't any of that crap. You were a serf.
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Correct.
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Okay. Dodge.
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Comment. Hold on. There's Paul. Yep.
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You are no longer the authorized representative of the person created without your consent. Okay.
[01:00:47] Unknown:
No. They did get that was created, but they did No. It was created without your consent. It was created. Every time. But you agreed to it every time they ever asked you. Yeah. Because they never told you what you were agreeing to. Well, that's right. And there's the fraud. That's why they gotta recognize this. One of the reasons.
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Okay. No. They did create a
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fictional entity, and it was people's unknowingly consenting to be responsible for something that they'd never created that gets people in all this trouble. Yep. So you need to get your your natural person and your legal person separated again.
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So they've done that. She's done that. I think you said you already sent it. Right?
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Yep. I sent it. So once it gets there on Friday, I'm gonna send out the other one to this,
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while we have them drawn up to send out Wait. Wait. Wait. Yeah. Wait a few days, and let's see. We're gonna go back and apply. You don't have to do this passport thing. K? It's not a requirement. Mhmm. It's just that that's the highest form of identification issued by the federal government. And if you apply for it and include this affidavit in the package, now they have to recognize you as your legal status and issue that ID attached to your new status. That's why it's important. K? You could go your whole rest of your life and not have to have one, but you want one. And I encourage everybody to at least get most people only need the card. It's $30. Why the hell wouldn't you wanna do that?
For $30, why wouldn't you wanna have the highest form of ID issued by the federal government that's attached to your freedom? Why wouldn't you wanna have that? I I I can't understand anybody not wanting to. Okay? So, anyway, now you can wait twenty days and but what however you want. Now you can go back and apply for that passport. I'd suggest you just do the $30 at first just in case they wanna keep your money. Okay?
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And reject owe me money anyway because I have to get Okay. Owe me money anyway because I did expedite the service. So they can just apply that money Well, no. They're not the car.
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No. That was in your other status. You hadn't corrected things yet. You weren't this new person. They're gonna keep it. I don't think you can get that back.
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K? No. I can get the I can get the expedited money back, but not the passport money that I Alright. Well, whatever. Whatever the situa like I said, folks,
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this this one and this parameters, this is the first time we've ever had a situation like that. Congratulations, Gigi. So, anyway, you're gonna apply. And if they reject you again because you're a new legal person and you've got that affidavit into the secretary of state already, then you've got grounds for an administrative appeal should you they reject. Gotcha. Okay? If you don't have that affidavit in like you did last time, you got no grounds for any appeal.
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Mhmm.
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Okay? So that's the importance of it, and that's why.
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Yeah. I have backup now
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Okay. Yeah. With the affidavit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm not that person. Here you go. I'm sorry. It's not that I'm not a person. I'm sorry. I'm not that person, The one that had those charges. Those were all my other legal personality when I was a serf.
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Okay?
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Yep. So, you know, this stuff can get very complex when you get into these idiosyncrasies in these situations, but yours isn't all that complicated. It's just very rare. And I still think, hopefully, once we can get ahold of Mark, and he did, I left him a message about you, and I saw that he had at least listened to it. So, one of these days, we'll get him back on, probably maybe Saturday, and we can get his re Appreciate you. Okay. You're welcome. Alright. Now where where else do we have to go out there? So were there some new people that piped up? I know we are Tony. Roger. Haven't spoke with him before. Here's Larry. He's always got something for us. What do you got, Larry?
[01:05:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it's very difficult to get back your your if you pay a a a fee to have your passport expedited, I I I have found it's quite difficult to get your money back if they don't fulfill the their their end of the bargain. The the student I helped, he applied for a passport, and then he got the new improved bluff letter. And remember, a month ago or two months ago on the air, I went over that response to that new and improved bluff letter with you. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. Well, in that in in the response, I did request the, the fees paid for the expedited service. I requested that back, and within, two weeks, he got the passport, but he did not get, you know, his money back for their lack of, you know, expediting the passport.
So I think it's quite difficult to get that money back. Well, and it's not worth going suing for $60,
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whatever it is. You know? Cost you more than that to do it almost. Exactly. Anyway, go through the motions, Gigi. Try we'll try and find out where they are, and I'm sorry you're in this condition, but crap happens.
[01:06:38] Unknown:
Well, it's okay. I'm alive. So that's all that I'm alive, and, people be on despair to to get my story, so that's good.
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Okay. Let me prove to you, and I'm gonna go to it. The very first document I ever found on all this stuff. I had gone to the Phil Marsh meeting. I had done read his book and all that stuff, and this on the Internet, this back in 1992 now. There wasn't hardly a Internet. A lot of people weren't even on it yet at that point. And so, I was looking for information. I was hungry about, like, Todd. Todd and his bunch here are. And, so, only, research place I had to go was the Cobb County Library. I lived in Cobb County, Georgia. They're on the Northwest Side Of Atlanta. So I popped down to the Cobb County library, and, it's right across the street from an old Confederate graveyard, and it's the it's kinda rolling hills and stuff.
And you see all those gravestones across the windows or that side are all windows, and it's just, well, it's always been emotional to me, you know, all this stuff. Anybody from the South, we've had to live with this crap our whole lives. Okay? And now you can't fly the Confederate battle flag and all the other crap that they've loaned on us. I got one in the window right here. A little bitty. One's not big. Not as big as I'd like, but I got it in my window with me in South America. Because those do you know the Saint Gigi, do you know what the Saint Andrew's Cross is on this hate flag? Gigi, come back and talk to me.
Okay. Well, you know the Confederate battle
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well, now well, I'm gonna tell you. Well, I heard that was the real flag. That was our original flag.
[01:08:34] Unknown:
Well, with the battle flag no. No. No. Nope. Nope. This is when this war started, and the original Southern flag was so similar to the federal flag that the troops would look at a standard and miss misread think it was the other flag and go the wrong damn flag. So that's why they came out with the Confederate battle flag to separate the forces of the North and the South, clearly in their flag standard. So it came out of Mobile. Couple of women down in Mobile were the first ones that put this together, and it's what we call in the South, the stars and bars. It's the red flag with the blue Saint Andrew's cross with the stars in it.
K. So that Saint Andrew's Cross is also on another, other flag. I think it's the Scottish flag. It's blue. The Saint Andrew's Cross is side to side because Andrew was one of the disciples' brothers. And when they crucified him, he said, I cannot be crucified. I will not be crucified on a cross the same as Jesus, so turn mine on its side. That's why that cross the way it is. K? I see very few people know that. Okay? And so, it's very important to southern people. Yeah. It used to be when I was in school, Ole Miss over in in Oxford, they had a a colonel the colonel there was their, mascot, little old southern colonel.
And you look at or go to the game and the whole stands was waving these Confederate battle flags. Well, hell, they won't let them do that anymore. Okay? And that's why. They had Saint Andrew's Cross is side to side because he said, I'm nowhere near equal to Jesus. Turn my my cross sideways, basically.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I'm actually looking at it right now, and it does look sideways because it doesn't look like a it looks almost like x to Well, the Scottish flag is the same way, and there's others, but that's what that means.
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Okay? And so, anyway, I'm looking across the street at this all these people that died for nothing. I think it's very interesting to me that when I said this talking to Anne Vandersteel, she agreed with me. I I was really kinda shocked. And and I believe that the civil war was started so that they could get the thirteenth and the fourteenth amendment in the constitution and could control our country. And through controlling our country and us as property and backing the world reserve currency, they've controlled the rest of the world for decades. See, I think this was Hey, Rod. I think that
[01:11:32] Unknown:
Please. That Saint Andrew's Cross is the flag of of I'm sorry. I didn't want you to get too far. Go ahead. Go ahead. I think that Saint Andrew's Cross is the Jamaican flag or the Dominican Republic.
[01:11:46] Unknown:
Well, it could be. I'm just telling you the symbolism behind it. Okay?
[01:11:51] Unknown:
Yep. Sorry.
[01:11:58] Unknown:
See, the problem with people interrupting me is now totally lost my train of thought. K? So, anyway, I'm in that library. I just say that as a because it moves me. It moves me that 600,000 plus people killed each other, And I think the reason was to get this damn scheme started. And the reason I've confirmed that lately is because that's the same time frame they started Cyrus Scofield and dispensationalism right in that same area. So they had two things that they started back then that the objectives were long term down the line. And I think the fact that that Scofield situation dispensationalism, which is becoming so important today, all these years down the line were started at the same time, is pretty good evidence that that my theory thesis here is probably correct. Anyway, Anne Manders still agrees. She came right out. I agree with you. Bam. Well, I was I was shocked, really.
But at least she's put some thought into that. So, anyway, I'm at the library. I'm looking at this cemetery that promoted this dialogue here. And so, I I I already knew from reading Phil Marsh's book and what I'd learned at that point, the time frame we were talking about, 1913 Federal Reserve. And so I went and found this book that said historical legal documents. And I opened it up to the time frame, and I want you all to go look at it on search. You can put it in search. Woodrow Wilson, put it in quotation mark, or you don't have to maybe. Woodrow Wilson's repudiation of dollar diplomacy.
Woodrow Wilson, repudiation of dollar diplomacy. It's a very state short statement that was put out by Wilson right in this time frame early in his presidency because they hadn't got his their hooks into him yet. And what happened was it says there's very short, it's only a couple paragraphs. And it says, we were approached by a consortium. He uses that exact word, a consortium of bankers, a cartel. Consortium of bankers. No doubt we all know what the ethnicities were. And, we were asked to undersign this $100,000,000 loan to China.
And then he gives the reasons that he didn't wanna cosign it. Well, first of all, what were they looking for for cosigners? They want muscle to collect the taxes justifiably because they never paid 1p on this. But as you go down on about the second or third paragraph, it tells you why he, wouldn't sign it. And he goes, part of the reason was the tax system, which is antiquated and burdensome. Boy, is that perfect description of the tax code? Antiquated and burdensome. And administered by foreign agents. There it is right there. The IRS, the reason they rent their offices and they're not in government buildings is their foreign agents under the International Monetary Fund overseeing this bankruptcy.
There it is right there in the document. K? That's the first document I ever found that really and if you look at it, it also blueprint for everything. Long of a bunch of money. They know they're not gonna pay it back. They want the resources, and they need the military to enforce the taxation issue. But there's the whole blueprint right there. K? So, found that first piece of paper I ever found on this stuff where I went looking on my own, and, boy, I come up with the gym. That's the blueprint of the whole damn thing. K?
But it's funny. I could show that to other people, and they just don't understand it for whatever reason. I see it clears clears clear, and other people see it clears mud. So I don't know. Anyway, that's what happened. Now to further this, and we had some discussion on this a while back, the Chinese never paid a penny on that. And so when it came time for Britain to give Hong Kong back to the Chinese, part of their agreement was they would pay the British bondholders on those bonds that are still outstanding that it accrued a bunch of interest.
They didn't pay any of the American bondholders of which there's about 20,000, I'm told. Now I was watching during COVID a lot on China. I got very interested in China. They used to have a China Today or China and focus, I think, on YouTube. And they and then they came in and and it was sponsored by the people that are affiliated with Steve Bannon. And so they got it down to a very short thing, but you could find out what's happening in China. And one of the guys that's really spearheaded that whole network is a guy named Phillips. I can't remember his first name.
Sharp young man. And so I tuned into a program one night, and he is interviewing an American attorney, older gal, that's in charge of the bond a bond unit of some sort that settles out all these old bonds. And so she's talking to Phillips, and she says, I have been in and sat with President Trump. He knows about this. And she says, we exchange debt bonds every day. And now, because they haven't paid a single penny to the American bondholders, That, at that point in time, was $1,700,000,000,000 in the amount. You wanna know the you wanna see compound interest? The magic of compounding? Let's say 50,000,000 turned into 1,700,000,000,000.0.
How about that? Well, that's some big wampum right there. In fact, we only owed the Chinese 100 and a million a bit a trillion 0.2. So we had a half a trillion, 500,000,000,000 more just in the, the the value of those bonds. Well, President Trump could have, at that point, gone out to those 20,000 bondholders and paid them 5 or 10¢ on the dollar. They're never gonna get anything otherwise. They take that. It'd probably be quite a sum of money at this point. And now Trump has 1.7 worth of bonds owed to the Chinese owe us. And every month when the Chinese bond payment comes due, he feeds them their own defunct bonds.
But that's never happened. Somebody said they some somebody had heard somebody or read something saying that had been settled. When I saw this gal less than five years ago, it had not. K? And she says, yeah. We trade bonds out every day. So, anyway, that all came from that one document right there, the 100,000,000 that they went ahead and loaned without the cosign. So they didn't have military to do any collections. So now they've ignored it. The Chinese are this kind of people they are, by the way. And, and and now it had amounted to 1,700,000,000,000.0 or 500,000,000,000 more than we owned the Chinese, period.
So why that never happened? I don't know. I just know that I was stunned that here's this gal with this very important information that goes back to the very first document I ever found. So, that was kinda interesting. But, anyway, that's how I know they're foreign agents. There's the blueprint right there. Repudiation of dollar diplomacy. So who's got something else now? Nobody? Nobody's got anything Hey, Roger. Yes? Who who you know? Quick. Who am I speaking with, please?
[01:20:35] Unknown:
Mikey in New Hampshire. I'm Hello, Mike. Oh, hey, Mikey. Oh, yeah. I, I've been listening for a while, and I, I sent my, affidavit in in June, June. And I got my passport, about a month later, almost exactly. Yeah. And it came by itself. Yeah. And, I was wondering, I I and I I I signed up for both the, the book and the card. And I did not get the card. That didn't come. Okay. Well, they don't come from the same
[01:21:13] Unknown:
they don't come from the same place. They evidently farm this out to somebody to make the cards, and they generally come in separate cover. Now if you still have not gotten it, you could, there's a, there there's a website you can go on and track the progress of your document on the state department. I don't know that address, but you can call the state department and get it. And, but it seems unusual. They've been pretty good at getting these things back timely. But it seems like this one might have fallen through the cracks. I check on it. Okay?
[01:21:54] Unknown:
Yeah. And they they said, at the, post office that they'd be including a a a punch version of my previous passport. Yes. They they they send that
[01:22:05] Unknown:
they send that back with three holes in it. Yeah. I didn't get that either. So Alright. Well, you got a good I'm waiting. Well, I I'd say you got a good reason to contact them and say, I hadn't gotten this, and this hadn't come. What's the deal? And let them figure it out.
[01:22:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay? There's another question I have. Alright. Has to do with, I didn't file my taxes, the past two years, because I it was just so trivial. You know, the, the amount that I owed, it was, like, you know, less than a $100. And, so I didn't I'm wondering, do I need to take any steps to remedy that? No. If it's very,
[01:22:50] Unknown:
Mike, if it's very trivial, go back and pay the amount so they don't come back on you. Be my
[01:22:59] Unknown:
suggestion. So, that would that would be before I send any notices or anything like that. Right?
[01:23:06] Unknown:
Well, I you know, they the the IRS, Mike, the IRS is not known for its speed and efficiency. Okay? So if it's a little amount of money and it's just two years, they may not get to you. They may not get to you ever. But I'm just saying, let me ask you the question this way, Mike. How well do you like to sleep at night?
[01:23:28] Unknown:
Oh, I I like it.
[01:23:30] Unknown:
Go back and pay them then go back and pay them the two years and file for it. It's a negligible amount of money, and then you'll be totally clear, and you can sleep real well. Okay?
[01:23:41] Unknown:
Yep. And so I I should do that before I,
[01:23:45] Unknown:
do anything else then? No. I wouldn't say that necessarily. You go ahead and put everybody on notice, but at some point, you need you should. I if it was me, I'd go back and pay less than a $100 in taxes just to make sure they had nothing no reason to come back on me.
[01:24:05] Unknown:
Is that, well, could they come back on me even if,
[01:24:09] Unknown:
Yes. Because you were in your other legal personality
[01:24:12] Unknown:
back then. You hadn't filed your affidavit. You had not made a status change. You owed that money because you're in your other legal personality. That's why I say you should go ahead and pay it. Yeah. I understand. Okay? Okay. Thanks a lot, Roger. Oh, you're welcome, Mike. I'm glad to have you out there. Who else has got, some little pig persnickety little situation?
[01:24:37] Unknown:
I have a comment from my last car. There's okay. Go ahead, Paul. Roger can tell you, in no uncertain terms that they chain they turned 1,500 in crap, garbage, frivolous. The IRS makes the claim. You owe us this because we deem you did a frivolous filing all that prep, and they parlayed that into $3,500. And No. 35,000. Oh, 35,000. So 1,500 wound up being 35,000.
[01:25:17] Unknown:
I don't even know if it's 1,500. I didn't make enough money to owe any taxes back then. Well, it was three But they it would three frivolous filing penalties. That was the base of it. And then I they the I I took them to court, federal court, on the summons for books and records. I had this little cute little black gal, little, IRS agent on the stand for four and a half hours. I promise you, she hated my guts. And what came out of that was a 35,000 a $30,000 bill on which they added another $5,000 for taxes they think I might owe in the future. Mhmm.
So that's what that kind of crap you're not fighting them, Michael. I'm just saying. There's no reason if it's less than a $100 or a nominal amount of money, there's no, reason to leave that hanging out there.
[01:26:09] Unknown:
Pay it because they'll turn that into 10,000 just as slick as can be.
[01:26:16] Unknown:
Well, hope. Just with bullshit. Adversary. So they can do that you know, you don't have the adversarial relationship I had with them. They probably will never contact you. But if it's less than a $100, why do you wanna risk it?
[01:26:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Lean slate, dude.
[01:26:33] Unknown:
Okay. So now anybody else? Alright. I might have enough time to get into these. Yes, sir?
[01:26:45] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Just just just to figure out. They can go back three years. Is that right?
[01:26:52] Unknown:
Seven.
[01:26:55] Unknown:
Seven. Okay. Yeah. So you're right. It makes sense.
[01:26:59] Unknown:
Thank you. You're welcome. Okay. Anybody else? No? Okay. Let's I was try this is what I was gonna try and get to yesterday. We probably got enough time to go into it now. Self help remedies. Very important. If you didn't know what they were and I asked you, you wouldn't know what they are. But everybody knows lien levy garnishment and seizure. Those are all self help remedies, they're called. There's a reason for that. Because they don't necessarily have to go to court to get the avail themselves of the remedy. And the reason is because it's already written into the contract that you signed originally.
This is one of those quirks of the Babylonian merchant code where they can you if you don't understand what this is, what these remedies are, how they avail themselves of them, and they come, like, grab your car or your house, and you automatically think, Admiralty Law. But it's not. That's prize. Remedies in Admiralty Law are called prize. I kick your ass. I take your stuff. You can't defend it. It's mine. Possession is 90% of the law. K? Well, that's they they took care of that in the Babylonian merchant code. I told y'all the other day, Now I like to teach this stuff in concepts, in big fat pieces.
So then you get the concept and you can see how they interact with each other and how the thing works much easier. The example I've always used, if you had a child, I don't know, eight, 10 years old, maybe a little younger, and you went to the toy store and you bought a 15 piece puzzle, and then right next to it was a 1,500 piece puzzle, and you bought both of them, brought them home. Which one you think that eight or 10 year old is gonna put together the fastest, the one with 15 pieces or the one with 1,500? The rhetorical question, obviously.
So the big picture approach to me is much easier than having to learn all the minutia. Once you learn the big picture, you can go in and drill down on the minutia and find it and understand it. If you don't, the chances of you doing that are greatly diminished. So that's why teaching concepts. Well, this is one of the concepts. You know, if I ask you, like, Gigi, what did you know what do you know about the, Babylonian merchant code? And you're gonna go, duh. I don't know anything about it. Well, if you're don't know anything about the Babylonian merchant code, you're pretty much at a big disadvantage here because that's what they're using.
We call it the uniform commercial code. Same thing. And for for and still for centuries and even now, it's called and referred to as the law merchant. So you got three different labels on the same concept. The Babylonian merchant code, the law merchant, and the UCC. K? All the same thing, just a different label. Now even in the UCC, it says, anything not covered by this title reverts back to the law merchant. It's right in there. K? So it is the law merchant. If it reverts back to the law merchant, it is the law merchant. And that's where this came from. And it's like the reason, you know, the Bible is replete with the merchants of the earth. The merchants of the earth this, the merchants of the earth that. Well, I may be from the South, but I gotta think the merchants of the earth use the merchant code.
Well, they do. Admiralty, maritime, everybody's always trying to search to connect these dots if they can connect because they don't understand because they don't understand what they're being confronted with. And the self help remedy is a is a really good example of that. So it's very useful like everything. And the reason they use the merchant code, by the way, is because they've been messing with it for thousands of years. They know it inside out. They're the merchants of the earth. So they know how to take something that's got a legitimate usage and use it malevolently against you, weaponized.
And that's what they're doing. So if somebody comes oh, y'all pick on Gigi. Gigi, if somebody comes and grabs your stuff like they did with you, I think, then you go, holy smokes. These guys have got a lot of power. They can just come grab my possessions, and I can't do anything about it? Well, see, what you don't understand is there's process behind it. They can't just come and grab your stuff without all kinds of letters, giving you chances to correct the situation, giving you another chance. They've gotta go through all of this notice and the right to be heard due process. They've gotta go through all this due process before they can get their grubby little hands on your stuff.
One day, I mean, I heard one of the girls in our tax group there in Atlanta, and I wake up at, like, I don't know, the phone's ringing at seven or 07:30 in the morning. And this little gal, she was a masseuse, and she's going, Roger, Roger, they're stealing my car. Well, that that's the impression you get. You didn't realize all that process they'd sent you that you ignored or didn't mess with or what led up for them to do have the ability to do this. K? So so Roger?
[01:33:06] Unknown:
Yes, Gigi.
[01:33:09] Unknown:
So the thing with me was
[01:33:11] Unknown:
I was trying to write that Let's not go into that right now. Let me continue on. We'll come back to that. Okay? I'm trying to give everybody an overview here. Alright? And so, that's what they've used since the Babylonian times. And because this way of remedy, of achieving remedy, does not entail a formal court process, it's agreed to in the contract. Okay? Now the way I like to explain it, because it makes sense everybody can kind of agree and relate, is car contracts when you go and buy a car. By the way, the it's the highest the highest amount of nonpayment of, auto loans ever right now. Highest delinquency payment on homes right now. All these things. Okay?
Happening right now to us. And so when you go buy that car and they go, well, Gigi, you wanna pay cash for that, or do you wanna finance it? Well, Gigi's gonna have, as everyone would, have to finance it. And so they bring out a financing statement. It's a promissory note. You're creating money right here. You're creating debt. You're creating babble bucks right here. So in the contract, in this car contract, they have a clause that's referred to as a recognizance. A recognizance. That comes from the root word recognize. So in the contract, there'll be a paragraph that says, I agree to, to all the statutes that are passed by the state I live in on repossession of cars on delinquent payments.
And it might be different from state to state. K? But the legislature will have in there, if you don't pay on the sixty first day, they can invoke this clause. And the state legislature has said that if you don't pay on the sixty first day, they can come grab your car. Now that's in the contract you signed, but you didn't read it. You didn't know what that meant. K? And it's got a legitimate purpose so they don't have to go the the car dealership or who owns the paper has to go get on a court docket. Then they gotta wait months and months before they can, get get in court. And then they gotta get a jury, and then they gotta have a trial, and then they've gotta get a judgment, and then they've gotta go record that judgment, then they can come grab your car. By that time, you may be in Tierra Del Fuego down there at the tip of, Argentina.
So they certainly don't want that. So you can see that this has got a very legitimate application. Okay? The the name of the term is called the recognizance. Now just to confuse you even further, there's another clause in there called a defeasance, and that means defeating something. Defeasance. And so in the defeasance clause, it says, we've got this gun at your head. You hadn't paid one month. We're waiting on the second one. And when you don't pay that, bam, we're gonna pull the trigger and come get your truck your vehicle. So the defeasance is in there every time you do pay a monthly payment, you defeat the potential remedy.
So you're defeating the remedy by paying the payment what you said you'd do anyway. Is that understandable? It's pretty simple. Recognizance, the Ephesians thing I just throw in there to show you how much I learned from John. Now, if this were what's called a Jewish sheatar, which many of you don't recognize. And that is what we identify as a ten forty form. In England, it was called a statute, staple, bond, or contract. It's called a Jewish sheatar, a statute staple bond or contract. We call it a ten forty form. K?
Now those are all three labels for the exact same document. Alright? Again, multi labels. And so if it is a Jewish sheatar, a ten forty form, Then it falls into a particular type of contract in the UCC called in in this section called specialty contracts. And it's got a recognizance, and it's gotta be signed under seal. So the recognizance we covered, recognizing another body of law in your ten forty form, the recognizance is I I agree to abide by all the terms and conditions in title 26 CFR. So you're agreeing in the ten forty to obey all the tax laws.
And then you sign it under seal, which means under penalty of perjury. You can send the IRS a ten forty for a billion dollars and not sign it, and they'll send it back to you. K? It's got to be signed under seal, and it's gotta have a recognizance. Now this is the way these things work. So we'll take our example with, the car and go over here to this, ten forty form. And so now that you've signed that and you send it in, now you've filed, so they can't get you with failure to file. They come in and audit you. They do these other things, but they want you to voluntarily because it's a voluntary system, they want you to voluntarily send that in and sign that under penalty of perjury, totally obligating yourself.
K? And so, if you don't file, however, it becomes a little more problematic because now you haven't put in a ten forty form. And the computer is programmed to work correctly. So it has to have a ten forty form filed for it to progress to the end of its process. This is what I was talking about yesterday on the Anne Vandersteel. I love Anne. She's already I've only spoke to her once. Still waiting for her to call me back or contact me. Anyway, Anne is railing on some guy. She said, they were filing for him year after year after year. He hadn't filed in years. Well, they went back seven years. They filed seven of these what's called substitute for returns, SFRs. In the community, we call them dummy returns because they're filed by a dummy. Okay?
So all they're doing is going back and doing like they did to me. Oh, well, it's I always get these penalties and this interest, and he didn't know it's too much or anything, but by god, he owes us 35,000 now. Well, now they do that sort of computation. They don't ask you about it because they figure you're under requirement to file already. So they go to the computer and they do a code called push code o nine. Push code o nine. Now this is in all the IRS manuals and stuff on how they do these processes. And so they put and hit o nine and stops the computer on this case.
Now they take this fraudulent $35,000 on the substitute for return, and they insert it into your file. And then they start the computer again. Now the computer sees a ten forty has been filed, and now they go on to assess you that amount, go to collections, etcetera, etcetera. But that's what Ann Vandersteel was raising hell about. She doesn't even understand. That's a very common practice, but not rare, and and they've got you. Now something came up about this the other day. I think Paul mentioned it. This is another of these specialty contracts and the reason they like using the merchant law. They got all these little ways they can screw you.
And so if you don't file, at the start of the process, they don't have you voluntarily sending that in, do they? So they've gotta get you in some sort of a contract. And so have any of you ever gotten that letter from the IRS that says, well, we haven't received your tax return for the year twenty twenty twenty twenty two. If you've already sent these in, please disregard this mailing. However, if you've not, we may ask you to come in and bring some of your books and records. That's when all the patriots would go into the IRS Building with a wheelbarrow full of books and records.
[01:43:09] Unknown:
K? Well, he told me to bring my books and records.
[01:43:13] Unknown:
And so, that's the way some people handled that back then. But that letter, John always thought again, this is John's speculation. I've never seen anything he speculated that was wrong. John speculated that that was a specific type of a contract in specialty contracts, again, in the UCC, and is called and referred to as a confirmatory writing. Now the way John explained it to us is it's a writing among merchants who are apprised to know the contents of the writing. And if you get one of these within ten days and you don't expressly deny it, it deems you've accepted it.
So when our patriot folks get that letter, well, they already are. They already said it's a voluntary system. Hell, I ain't volunteering. And so he gets that letter. What does he do with it? Throws it in the trash can. So in ten days, they've got him on the front end in a contract that he doesn't even understand. So that's what allows them, from what I've been able to ascertain, that allows them to utilize that push code o nine, stop the computer, insert the substitute for return, and now you owe them a bunch. Now because there's all kind of process, they've sent you letters. If you haven't returned these files coming if you if you file these years, don't. If you do, we might ask you to come in. There's a series of those letters. And then they gotta send you a ninety day letter, what's referred to in the patriot community as a ninety day letter. And that's saying, hell, you're at the position.
You owe us some bread. And if you if you don't want to, that's fine, but you've got an option here to go to tax court. Ah, tax court. Member's voluntary. They don't say we're subpoenaing you for tax court. They make you file in tax court. You know why? Because you're the moving party. You've now got all of the burden on you to prove. You get into tax court, by the way. You can't argue law. You can't argue regulations. The only thing you can argue in tax court is the amount. Period. So all of that is process that leads up to the fact if you don't go to tax court, you're gonna go ahead and file a lien, a notice they call it a notice of lien, in the property records office of your county where you live.
So if you've ever seen one of those documents, a notice of lien, it's got three pieces of information on it. It's got your name in all caps. It's got the address where you are are domiciled, and it's got the amount you owe. Now they allow them to file this in the property records office. I'm sure they never object. So if you look at that piece of paper and there's only three pieces of information, what if what if you live in a rental house or apartment and it's not your, quote, unquote, property? Had there probably been millions of people that have had that situation? They've got a notice lien on them, and they live in a rental house. Who's the lien on?
If it's not on the property, you don't own that, so it can't be on that. It can't be on the money, the amount. Who's what's the notice to lien on? There's only one left. That's you. You're the property. K. And so that's all process. Once they do that, now we've they've told you. We begged you. We gave you an opportunity to go tax court. We get all this stuff for you to try and correct this error when you threw that little confirmatory writing in the trash can and agreed with us. So, we're gonna come start grabbing your stuff. We may grab your house. We may grab your car. We may garnish your wages, all that stuff.
But you see, there's always process behind it. It's not just I'm gonna come grab your stuff. And that's where the patriot community falls through the holes because they don't know the stuff I'm teaching you right now. They don't have any idea what a self help remedy is. Oh, if you say a lien, they know what that is, but they don't know why it's self help, how you have that signed into the agreement that you, sent them or didn't and inferred with this, other way. So, here's what happened with that. It's funny. In that very same video on x from Anne Vandersteel, she mentioned a guy named Michael Ellis.
She said, Michael Ellis got me all this information. He applied for his master file and got all that background stuff from the IRS. And Michael Ellis, when I was doing shows with Al Attis years ago, Al Attis knew about Michael Ellis. And so the tax situation came up on our program, and this discussion came up. And and and and, also, I know this guy, Michael Ellis, has got all these manuals and knows them inside out. I said, well, I'm my other teacher, Glenn, knows the whole origin of the tax system and how it works and how it was structured. And we put those two together.
And so it gave both of them the complete picture. They had a doctor, medical doctor in San Diego on been charged with two failure to files. And they said, well, let's do this. We've got the whole picture now. We've got a law firm that will that will use this defense. And so Glenn would write all the process and send it to the law firm, and they'd use it and file it. Well, unfortunately, the the doctor was convicted. And they appealed it to the ninth circuit, and the ninth circuit agreed with those convictions. And, Glenn this one Glenn walked away from everything here, by the way.
I got the goods on them. We get it in their court, and he goes, Roger, it is so damn complex that not only can the jury not understand, the judge can't moratorium placed on the whole federal judicial system at the district court level, no one is allowed to bring up push code o nine in any IRS case anywhere in the country. Now that's what's happened subsequently. So, that's, that's self help remedies. Roger. Larry.
[01:50:42] Unknown:
Yeah. You're right. The IRS does have to, exercise process, and they have to send a series of letters out before they can take your stuff. This is right from the IRS website. It's called understanding your CP five zero four notice. We received this notice or you received this notice because we haven't received payment of your unpaid balance. This notice is your notice of intent to levy internal revenue code section six three three one parenthesis d. If you don't pay the amount due immediately, the IRS can levy your income and bank accounts as well as seize your property or your right to property, including your state income tax refund to pay the amount you owe, end quote.
[01:51:36] Unknown:
Well, there there you go right from the horse's mouth and process process process, due process process. This not admiralty law. K? That that and our our maritime. That's one of the big things I'm trying to get across. If you've got that Patriot crap in your mind, get rid of it. Wipe the slate because it's not accurate. Okay? So, anyway, that's what self help remedies are. They're very, very important. And you can see that they've got a very good usage on one hand. They've got an, an evil usage on the other. Now I'm gonna apply this for you. As Rome got started and built and started being aggressive in acquiring foreign territories, The merchants of those territories, of course, I you can probably guess what ethnicity they were.
They wanted to come to Rome because that's where the action was. That's where they can make all their merchant deals and this, that, and the other, make big big dineros. And so, what happened was that very same thing. The they started coming to Rome. Now Rome, for the first two hundred years this is all in my book, by the way. Rome, for the first two hundred years, was under a set of laws called the 12 tablets. We don't know what the 12 tablets said, but we know Rome was under them because they referred to them. And so, what that was was more of a common law type structure. They had a formal court system. They had, like, a a jury you had to go in front of and get a judgment and go get it registered and all that stuff.
Very time consuming, could be expensive. And, so as the merchants came into Rome and brought with them the Babylonian merchant code and this very easy way of remedy where they write the remedy into the contract. And they could see these merchants and they didn't have to go to court. They didn't have to get a attorney. They didn't have to go through all that crap. All they did was settle it right there on the spot because it had been written into the contract on the front end. And so the the Romans, seeing this very easy way of settlement of contract and remedy, started going the attorney general in Rome was called the praetor.
You've heard the praetorian guard. Well, at one point in Rome, it was the praetorian guards who decided he was gonna be emperor. Okay? And so they amassed a great deal of power. And and and Rome knowing this would only allow a praetor in office for a year at a time. So every year, they changed praetor so he didn't amass too much power. And so over the course of two hundred years, generally, the new praetor followed the body of law the older the guy he replaced had had followed. Conservative approach. Well, the Romans, seeing this new easy way of remedy, would go the praetor and say, hey, man. Can we do this? This is, like, easy. We don't have to do all this other stuff.
And it took a while. But over a period of two hundred years, the praetor incorporated self help remedies into the existing Roman law. Therefore, we have a fusion of merchant law and common law. And that is what we call today the Roman Civil Code. We would identify it as The U United States Code. Same thing. An amalgamation of Babylonian remedies and stuff into the existing common law. That's why if you go to The United States code and look in the first it may be in every page. Just a second, Julie, please. It may be in every page. I don't know. It's been a long time. But there's a list of all 50 titles, and they will tell you whether it's positive law or nonpositive law. Well, what the hell is nonpositive law for god's sakes?
It's Babylonian merchant code. It's things that have not been common law constitutional that have been brought in under this new amalgamation since the bankruptcy into The United States code where, for instance, title 26, which is the Internal Revenue Code, title 26 was never passed by the senate, and it was never signed by the president, but it ends up in The United States code as nonpositive law. Why how the hell did that happen? Because it was the federal government that was bankrupt. They bankrupted the federal government in the bond department, and they ran in the tax law because it's for Washington DC and the serves.
Julie?
[01:56:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Sorry. I didn't wanna interrupt you because I didn't wanna interrupt your train of thought, but I had some questions about stuff you were saying before before you moved on to this. So now I have two questions. The first question is when you were talking about the, when the IRS sends you, like, we have not received your tax return or they send you some other statement in the mail. You stated It's that one. No. It's not some other statement. It's that one specifically.
[01:57:19] Unknown:
There's a series of What if they send you something else? Hold on. Those are called CP letters. You've heard them referred to on the show recently because people are starting to get some of them. But there's four there's a series of four. God almighty. I'm trying to answer your question. There's a series of four of them, and they'll always send you those first exclusively. K? Now go ahead.
[01:57:44] Unknown:
K. So those are just the CP letters, and there's four of them?
[01:57:48] Unknown:
There can you can receive four of them. You might receive one of them. I don't know how they're doing. I know in their manual, there's four of them listed there as CP. I don't remember the designations, but they're listed there. Go ahead.
[01:58:01] Unknown:
Okay. And then the other thing I was gonna ask you is, what you were recently talking about. I understand that they write the remedy into the law, via, you know, Babylonian Contract. And
[01:58:14] Unknown:
to the contract.
[01:58:16] Unknown:
Right. Right. And then, what was I gonna tell you? What did you say when you did the transition from the UCC to the USC? Can you just go over that one more time, please? Well, the USC is Roman civil law,
[01:58:33] Unknown:
and they've been Okay. How did the Roman Civil law come about?
[01:58:36] Unknown:
They well, that's they started the United States Code in the nineteen twenties because they knew they were gonna bankrupt the country and what they were gonna do with it. K? It wasn't there back in the eighteen hundreds. It was only the statutes at large. K? So it's an amalgamation of the merchant law and the common law exactly like they did in Rome that ended up being called the Roman civil law. It's an amalgamation of elements of the Babylonian code amalgamated with the common law. And that's what we've got today.
[01:59:15] Unknown:
Okay. And then you said that, title 26 internal revenue code never passed by the senate or signed by the president. Correct. And how did they do this? It was through the bankruptcy. Is that what you were saying? Well, they only they didn't bankrupt the whole country. They couldn't do that. They only bankrupt the corrupt the federal government.
[01:59:32] Unknown:
And that's why because that's DC that they could bring in title 26 and apply it to little old Julie who lives just outside of DC there because Julie, every time they ever ask her, said she was under the laws of Washington DC. Are you a resident? Yes. Well, there you are. So they take in something that was just brought in for the federal government, and they apply it to Julie, a federal citizen, because of her functional illiteracy of not knowing that she was agreeing with their fraudulent contract every time they ever ask you those two questions. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry for interrupting you. Oh, that's okay. I don't I'm pretty well finished anyway. We're just about finished with the show here, but I had enough time to get through that today. It takes a little bit of time and explanation.
But guess where else that happened? At the start of the income tax in England in December when they brought the Jewish sheatar into the English common law. There's a there's a really sterling piece of writing on this. It was issued in the published in the Georgetown Law Review back in the seventies, I believe. It was written by a Jewess named Judith Shapiro, who tells you with incredible detail, the name of the article is How the Jewish Shethar Invaded the English Common Law. And it's just got all this whole story and backstory of the tax situation. But in 20 pages or so, Julie, the good Judith, Jewish Judith Shapiro, well, somehow she neglected to tell us that a Jewish sheatar was also a ten forty form.
But if you wanna read that on all that, go look up that article. Paul, you ought to have that well, I'll have that posted somewhere on the website anyway. How the Jewish Shethard invaded the English criminal law by Judith Shapiro. Now speak.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
Okay. So you, you before I wrote it down, but I didn't get the three words. You said in England, a Jewish a a Jewish shatah is called a bond. And what it what's the other two words? Statute,
[02:01:50] Unknown:
staple, bond, or contract. Okay. So a statute, staple, bond, or contract. And it's called the ten forty form in our country today. At some point, we're not gonna do it today. I'd probably like to wait a few months until we at least turn the first of the year, maybe get into the spring. We'll go over the whole history of this. My teachers, John and Glenn, were, at least on our side, the experts in the world on this. Nobody knew this stuff. By evidence, by the fact when they tried to find the books in the in the universe the library referral system, there were only two of them in the whole damn United States. How do you expect any judge, any tax attorney, any tax preparer, or anybody else to know anything about it when the only two books that describe the process, one of them was at the Library of Congress, and the other was at Texas A and M University?
So that's the bot the the the unbelievable ignorance our whole country's been in, including the tax court. Yes, Larry.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
Yeah. To answer Julie's question, the standard sequence is, before one receives a CP five zero four is to receive a CP 14. This is the initial notice informing you of an unpaid tax balance and demanding payment. Then the second they're sending you.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Right. The the second one is a CP five zero one. If the CP 14 is ignored, a CP five zero one notice will be sent as a reminder of the outstanding balance. And then the third notice is a CP 503. This notice serves as a second reminder that your tax debt remains unpaid and signals that the IRS is nearing enforcement action. Then, of course, you'll get the five o CP five zero four that I read about a little while ago. And then it says this, it's important to note that the five the five zero four is not the final notice. They're still giving you even another chance. It says it's not the final notice before all levy actions. The IRS will generally send an additional notice such as a letter ten fifty eight or l t 11 before levying wages, bank accounts, or other assets.
[02:04:13] Unknown:
Okay, Larry. I got a c p 59 and Mark told me to it to ignore it. Did he? No. You you won't respond to that. I I didn't. And it's so old. It's so old now. I didn't respond to it. Mark said I didn't, I didn't have to respond to it. It was just a reminder, my tax return.
[02:04:35] Unknown:
They can't get you into a voluntary system via this form of contract that you're not responsible for. That's why Mark told you that. Because you're not a citizen of The United States or a resident any longer.
[02:04:48] Unknown:
Right. That's what he told me. He said they have no jurisdiction over me. Well, that's true. K.
[02:04:54] Unknown:
So anyway but that's the that's the tax scam, and that's a little bit about self help remedies, where they come from, and the fact that they this is the same thing they do with everything. There's things in there that are legitimate, like the confirmatory writing that they understand how to weaponize. They know you don't know about it, and they know they're gonna snag you in the snare with it. That's the importance of it.
[02:05:20] Unknown:
K? So do anybody else she sent to since she sent
[02:05:24] Unknown:
Oh, go ahead, please.
[02:05:27] Unknown:
But since since she sent what the c 11, what's it called, with the affidavit,
[02:05:34] Unknown:
she doesn't have to respond to anything they see. I don't no. It doesn't matter if she sent in that notice with her or not. She doesn't have to they don't have any jurisdiction over, WAI. She filed an affidavit. Taxes are only for citizens of The United States or residents. She's a nonresident alien.
[02:05:54] Unknown:
Since I put everybody on notice, I don't even have to
[02:05:58] Unknown:
defile anything or do anything they'd say do. Well, if you've got eight seventy one or eight seventy seven b income, you should probably pay it, but the chances are you don't have any stocks and bonds. Do you,
[02:06:13] Unknown:
I just have a regular job that sends me a paycheck every two weeks.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
Wahid, I didn't. Okay. That's that's only those would be constitutional taxes you'd owed on the dividends of stocks or bonds. If you got that kind of income, pay it. It's gonna be negligible unless you're a multibillionaire. K? So who else is any of the new folks have questions on all that?
[02:06:38] Unknown:
Roger. Roger. It also includes, US source based income. Don't forget that because That's right. I said that cap That's right. Well, that's what I said. That those are the the reason they have you pay those
[02:06:52] Unknown:
are because those are entities that were born by the state or the federal government. And because they had a hand in birthing the entity and you're participating in it, you have to pay a tax on the dividends, not on the capital gains. It could go from one to a thousand, and when you sell it at a thousand, you owe no tax on that. It's the dividends they paid you. And if I remember correctly, some stocks don't even pay dividends.
[02:07:23] Unknown:
Yeah. But what I'm referring to, Roger, is the contract that I have that I signed with HUD, Housing and Urban Development Well, then then that's the word. Yeah. Well, then you ought to pay that. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So that's what I was referring to. If you have any sort of income, and I have rental properties in DC where I get money or monthly rent from people who are, paying me rent to rent those properties, I don't think that's US sourced
[02:07:51] Unknown:
income, but I haven't been able to figure that out yet. So, you know, these fine points, not very many people are in your situation. It's never come up before. Yep. So I just don't know any answer to those things. K? Well, there's always a first for everything, Roger. Well, yeah. Be the be the little guinea pig. Be the little guinea pig like they buy down here, and they fatten you up all year for Christmas dinner. Oink. Oink. Oink. Oink. Oink. Thank you. Yeah. They're called koi koi down here. It's supposed to be a delicacy. I don't want any part of it. So whatever. Okay. That's gonna be.
Yeah. Supposed to be. Overpriced and not really very good. More cracked up to be more than it is. Alright. So any of the new people have any questions on what we've covered today or specifically this self help stuff?
[02:08:45] Unknown:
Okay. I must If I may?
[02:08:47] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am.
[02:08:50] Unknown:
Pam in Michigan. I'm not new, but, I was just wondering in regards to that statement that was just discussed. Would someone who's getting a rent from someone staying in their location, and that pay was coming from a state, social securities. Okay. So how would that make sense?
[02:09:17] Unknown:
You know, in any of these things, my personal philosophy is it's better to ask forgiveness than permission. So go ahead and don't do it and see if they ding you. If they ding you, oh, I'm sorry. Golly. Let me pay that.
[02:09:36] Unknown:
Okay. I'll I'll give them that message. It's not for me. It's for someone else I know. Okay. And, also always intent.
[02:09:43] Unknown:
I never intentionally I never intentionally didn't pay any tax that I owed. Correct.
[02:09:51] Unknown:
Okay. Let's go back to Pam here. What's the second question, Pam?
[02:09:56] Unknown:
Okay. And so as far as these, payments and, you know, reimbursements or whatever, however these things go, someone was talking about a five zero eight c one a. Is anybody familiar with that? How the, the five zero eight owns the business, and then,
[02:10:16] Unknown:
everything is hidden from the IRS. I yield. I I'm I've never heard of that, quite frankly. Doesn't mean it's not real. It's just I've never I'm I've never been exposed to it to my knowledge. Maybe Mark, you know, hopefully, Mark will get the Indians away from the wagons enough where he can come visit with us on Saturday. Maybe y'all could ask him some of those questions. He's a little more he's a little more adept at all this IRS stuff than me because I hated it, and I went on to jurisdiction. And that's the reason you're free if you've filed your payment. And that's Saturday.
Okay. Thank you. Well, he's supposed to be with us on Wednesdays and Saturdays. So the fact that he's not here today or hadn't even poked his head in tells me something's going on. So that's all I know. Hey, Mark. He's not here. I'm sorry.
[02:11:04] Unknown:
Right. No. I wanted to tell you I've I've spoken to Mark. Mark had a issue with both his dad and his mother. Yeah. And, his dad doesn't get released until Friday. So I'm not sure if he'll be able to be on on Saturday or not. Okay. May I? We don't know what's on Friday. And his mother Yeah. His mother also had a mishap, and she just, I believe, got home today.
[02:11:25] Unknown:
Or maybe on Monday. Well, obviously, March got his hands full. Okay? So God bless him for doing it.
[02:11:33] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:11:34] Unknown:
Okay. Who else? Who else? Paul? I've, Paul, I've got a we were gonna maybe work on this phone today. Well, I went yesterday because I was getting my apartment cleaned, so I had to go out and went to the mall, ate lunch and stuff, and there's a big well, it's like a Walmart store in there. And I went down there. I said, do you have any, you know, traditional telephones? We call them telephono conventional. And out of that whole big section there, there's three phones. They had some kind of an anti theft thing on it that covered up most of the side, and I just grabbed one and went and bought it. Well, I got it home, and it's a wireless phone. It's Panasonic. It's a pretty cool little phone, but the buttons are kinda low. And I and the guy was speaking Spanish, and I didn't really understand what he was saying.
So I'm thinking about going back down there today and seeing if one of the other three was more of a traditional phone. This it's a wireless phone. It's got little buttons, and it's pretty small, which should be very convenient in this configuration we're talking about. But I might run down there and see what those other excuse me. Those other phones were here before we go through trying to install it. Okay? Paul, is that that's so let's just put that off another day. Okay? Just trying to get My my landlady's here. She's working on the front hallway. I was helping her out for a minute. Alright. Well, let's let's take and just put that on the back burner for another day. I'm a go to the mall and see what other types of phones they've got. Okay? Alright. So we'll put that off today.
[02:13:23] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:13:24] Unknown:
So anybody else got anything for me today? I gave you a pretty good drink of water out of a fire hydrant there, new folks, this morning. Roger? Yes, Julie.
[02:13:39] Unknown:
Yep. She What if I what if you've got, like, an iPad?
[02:13:45] Unknown:
No. It's got to be plugged into the magicJack. Okay. Telephone's a lot cheaper than an iPad. So there was a guy trying to say something there. Thank you, though. There was a guy trying to say something there when Julie was talking. Roger?
[02:14:03] Unknown:
Roger? Yeah, Roger. I just I just said bless you because I heard you sneeze, and that's something that, I tried. I do that. Yeah. Unfortunately,
[02:14:11] Unknown:
it's one of the plagues my mother gave me. The sign weird sinuses. And when I confronted her with it, she said, I'm sorry.
[02:14:23] Unknown:
So, Larry, what did you have? You're looking to you look mullein, I mean. Mullen tea. Clear up all sinuses.
[02:14:32] Unknown:
Oh, a what now?
[02:14:35] Unknown:
It's called Mullen. It's an herb. If you use it as a t, it'll clear up all your sinuses. Okay.
[02:14:41] Unknown:
In a drink. What do you call in an hour. Alright. What do you call that in Spanish?
[02:14:50] Unknown:
I don't know. Me either.
[02:14:52] Unknown:
Thank you, though. I'll try and maybe locate some. By the way, I just have to say extra
[02:14:57] Unknown:
so so much, and, have a great day.
[02:15:00] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you very much. Yes, Julie.
[02:15:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Mike Adams had these two, business partners on his a show of his, and the website is called Frontier Farm, and that's f as in Frank,
[02:15:15] Unknown:
r o n I got it. Frontier.
[02:15:18] Unknown:
And it's Farm, p h a r m. They have really inexpensive products that you can buy, for nasal stuff, and it's made out of chlorine dioxide solution. They've got all sorts of mouthwashes if you have any issues with teeth, and also nasal stuff. So if you can't get that if they don't ship internationally, I'm happy to get it and ship it internationally.
[02:15:45] Unknown:
I'm here to you. Well, you don't have to ship it internationally. You just have to ship it to Miami, and my mule will charge me and bring it down down here. So it's a lot better. Oh, okay. Well, then you could do that. So if you ship it internationally, I've got to now go to customs called Wanna Oh, I get it. And go through all of that crap. Okay? So I'd I'd prefer not to do that.
[02:16:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you might wanna check them out because the, the webinar or the
[02:16:12] Unknown:
link. Julie, can you send me an email? You like to send me you like to send me all these little emails. Could you do send that in one, please?
[02:16:21] Unknown:
Yes. I will. Thank you. Instead of instead of nah. Nah.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah.
[02:16:26] Unknown:
Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. N yes. There's a female there.
[02:16:38] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:16:39] Unknown:
Oh, it's Joan.
[02:16:42] Unknown:
The Spanish the Spanish word from Marlene, Mullen, however you wanna say it, is Gordo Lobo.
[02:16:53] Unknown:
Gordo Lobo. Gordo
[02:16:56] Unknown:
Lobo. Wow.
[02:16:58] Unknown:
Okay. I'll try and remember that. Gordo Lobo. And and that's,
[02:17:03] Unknown:
yeah, G 0 R D 0 L 0 B 0.
[02:17:09] Unknown:
Gordo. You know what Gordo you know what Gordo means, don't you? Julie probably does. You remember what jewel Gordo means? Gordita?
[02:17:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Gordo is fat. That's right.
[02:17:22] Unknown:
That's right. You're trying to you're trying to fatten me up, Joan, or what?
[02:17:27] Unknown:
No.
[02:17:29] Unknown:
And, also, one more thing. You know, there's a lot of free translation apps for
[02:17:38] Unknown:
cell phones. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:17:40] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. But that translation is wrong.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
I wouldn't surprise me. No. It's
[02:17:46] Unknown:
Lobo Gordo. Lobo Gordo. Way around. Gotcha.
[02:17:50] Unknown:
Joan, I Go ahead. I don't use cell phones Hey, Roger. Pretty much. My eyesight's bad, and my fingers are fat, and I just don't use them because I get very frustrated. I did want to, however, and I don't know who it was, an old older gentleman that said get one of the little pins with a rubber end, which I did, and it really helps. So thank you very much, whoever that was.
[02:18:18] Unknown:
K. And and, Roger, the, Frontier Farm stuff that you wanna order for your nasal, any nasal issues is called snoot, s n o o t. I thought that was a cute word. Yeah. It's like a pig. A pig snoot. Okay.
[02:18:32] Unknown:
Alright. Who else has got, medical, financial, any kind of, assistance for me?
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Alright. Well well, I've got I've got a, let's see. I have self help remedies for Waheed's trich knee.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
I got a self help remedy for Waheed. No. Run away from that pit bull, but get your knee fixed first. Go ahead. Yeah. The self help remedies for for Waheed and his trich knee are,
[02:19:10] Unknown:
don't lean on that leg. Don't do anything stupid climbing up and down on the levees. If you garnish, do so with joint healthy, garnishes. And if and make sure that you don't fall down or you might hit your head and have a seizure.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
Don't do that, Wahid.
[02:19:34] Unknown:
Don't do that. Okay.
[02:19:36] Unknown:
Roger. Nacho cheese. Nacho cheese. Yes. Yes.
[02:19:43] Unknown:
Did you say you were gonna be on Anne Vandersteel's
[02:19:46] Unknown:
show? Well, I thought I was. I'm still waiting to hear back from her, Robbie.
[02:19:53] Unknown:
Well, I'm wondering if since you haven't heard back, it wasn't a good response from Flynn, but I wouldn't be surprised.
[02:19:59] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. All I know is I sent her a message on WhatsApp, and she hadn't even looked at the message yet. And why you wouldn't check your WhatsApp in five four or five days, I don't know. But that is all I do know. So okay. So I'm not gonna speculate on any of that kind of stuff because we don't know. Alright?
[02:20:23] Unknown:
Roger?
[02:20:24] Unknown:
Yes, Joan.
[02:20:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Those free translation apps, they you can speak. You know? I'm I'm not talking about just writing it out. They you can just press the, whatever on your phone and and and speak it. And then it writes it out, and it verb and verbally
[02:20:43] Unknown:
speaks it out so that you can read it and listen, and so can the other person. What's the Okay. Could what's the name? Could you send me that app name and an email, Joan, please?
[02:20:56] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:20:58] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. If you would. There's several. Sounds like I hate I hate I hate cell phones. Okay? So I but I that one sounds like it might be usable.
[02:21:09] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger. One last thing. We can it's it's it's it's cool how over the years we can discern on what and who is real when you're right over the target.
[02:21:21] Unknown:
Salute to you. Yeah. Well, that's for sure. When you're catching flack, you know you're over the target. Or in our instance, when you're not catching any flack and they totally ignore you, you know you're over the target. When I come on here and call them dirty kikes and everything else and beg them to put me on their hate list and they won't do it, you know you're over the target. All these other people that are getting persecuted by these people that won't listen, like Alex Jones in his little lawsuit when he they tried to claim his name, and he went to the involuntary servitude of the thirteenth amendment.
And they wrote back and said, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment. Oh, no. They're oh, why? Why? Nobody has got an answer, but nobody is receptive. So, I I will wait another if I don't hear back from Chase, we'll try it again and try and get you guys to back me up again, and we'll just keep doing it until he recognizes it.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
Hey, Raj. K. Yes, Paul. Make no mistake. You are definitely on their hate list. They just don't talk about it. They wouldn't mention me with a 10 foot pole. They're scared to death of this information, folks. You are definitely on one of their lists.
[02:22:37] Unknown:
We're we're terrorists to them because we terrorize their scam.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
I guarantee you are on one of their lists.
[02:22:45] Unknown:
Oh, they they know who I am. They've been known since I first put this information out 14 ago. Yep. Yeah. Southern Poverty Law Center was all over it, right, almost from the start.
[02:22:58] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:22:59] Unknown:
They know very well. And they're counting on the fact that you're too damn stupid to have an interest in it or for one wanna figure it out and apply it. But the bad problem they got is we don't need everybody. No. All we need is a small percentage, and we can bring their asses right down.
[02:23:21] Unknown:
We can cripple them just just by pulling 3% out of the tax system.
[02:23:26] Unknown:
Well, we'll I think we've already got a substantial I think we already got a couple million, but still, the more the merrier. We get 10 or 20,000,000 hardworking tax paying Americans out of their system and pull them out of the IRS. These guy they already got big problems. This would just well, it may push them over the cliff. I don't know. We have to wait till those things come into reality, but might. It's got the potential to. That's why we keep trying so hard. And I know that every one of those affidavits make somebody's sphincter muscle tighten when they get it up there. Oh, yeah.
And I like that. Okay? So, girls and guys, any other questions or comments for the old man here? Roger. There's somebody. Yes. Who's that? I recognize the voice vaguely. Is that Tom? Oh, yeah.
[02:24:28] Unknown:
No. No. No. Michael, Minnesota.
[02:24:31] Unknown:
Michael, our old friend. Are you sleeping any better at night?
[02:24:34] Unknown:
Very a little bit better. Today's episode
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did help me to play today. Good. Good. I'm glad to hear that.
[02:24:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Say my, my driver's license came up due, because I've just had my birthday and it, you know, every four years, your the driver's license got to be renewed. I guess so. Well, Feliz Cimigliano. Yeah. Thanks. We shared the same birthday over the weekend. Anyways,
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you and I are both ago, I You and I are both twentieth babies? Really?
[02:25:16] Unknown:
Eighteenth eighteenth for me. About close enough. Yep. Okay. Four years ago, I was a US citizen, and I applied for a Minnesota enhanced driver's license, not a regular enhanced and supposedly Minnesota calls the enhanced driver's license similar, if not identical, to a real ID. Yes. If they follow the same rules, and you can use it at the airport. You can use you just can't, go to you can't use it internationally. You have to use your passport card.
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Book, of course. Because they got, they can't put a Visa stamp in your driver's license.
[02:26:09] Unknown:
Exactly. So here I am thinking, I'm a national.
[02:26:14] Unknown:
How should I renew my driver's license? I would say there's several ways well, there's several ways you could do it. You could try putting TDC under your signature at the first of your signature. That means threats, duress, and coercion that you signed it under in other words, if I'm not this, you're not gonna give it to me. If I don't get it, I might get pulled over on the side of the road by a sub I 100 IQ policeman with a Glock on his hip wanting to shoot me and get in an argument with me or something. So I would go I wouldn't worry about it. It's something that they require that you have and that if you don't have it can get you into a bunch of trouble. It's not gonna change and override your affidavit with the secretary of state if that's your concern.
But it just depends on my next question. Well, that that depends on the individual. See, and I I I it it depends on you. Do you wanna get out there and fight them and potentially go through all this and be very combative, or do you want life to just go along with the comment? God, can I please get how how can I even answer a question when you guys are interrupting me? K. So if it's that, I I'd say no big deal. Just go ahead and get it and live your life. Okay? But there's both sides of it. Continue
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Roger, so are are you recommending that I just do the whole renewal of my enhanced? Or am I is it possible for me to revert back to a regular driver's license, or do you think they still have all the compute? I have no idea. Have to state all that crap these days. I do know if you've got a passport,
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it suffices for one of these DLs that lets you get on a plane and get into a federal bill building. Mhmm. And it won't matter if you put your affidavit in where you're a national or not that that you'll have the what's required. Now I do know we had a guy from Boston, Lewis, who we hadn't heard from him in too long. And, Lewis, nice guy. And during COVID, he did all this, and he call had to go to the Federal Building. And, he called the lady and said, I'm a national. And she said, well, you won't have to wear a mask and something else. But she clearly delineated him from the other people just on the phone call. K? So, Michael, sometimes I just don't have any I mean, I remember I've been out of the country sixteen years. May I?
Yes. Let let let me just finish with Michael here and say that. Julie's got something to say. Lisa's got something to say. There's a guy that had something to add. Mine's real quick.
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Well He he he's he has something to say.
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Okay. Wahid, we're gonna get you out of the way first.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
You said you said that my my tax thing is negligible because I get a check every two weeks. Talk right into the phone, Waiheed. You're very muffled. Okay? You said you said that my taxes never had your mobile because I I get a paycheck every week.
[02:29:30] Unknown:
Please say that again and not speak so damn fast and speak right into the phone, please.
[02:29:38] Unknown:
You said that my tax thing is negligible because I get a check every two weeks.
[02:29:47] Unknown:
I don't think I said that, Waheed.
[02:29:50] Unknown:
I don't think so either.
[02:29:53] Unknown:
Okay. So next, Julie? Yo. Let him finish, ma'am. Yep. I have a He can't even he can't even say what he's wanting to say. Why? I don't know what something about you getting a check every two weeks, Waheed.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
What was your question again, please? Do I do I qualify do I qualify for that tax thing that you're speaking of? What would you text? Since I'm a, national, and I get a check from the company every two weeks, I would I go about and it's a c c 11 or whatever they call it. Oh my god. Oh my god. There's
[02:30:34] Unknown:
you can if you if you want, you can stop them withholding. You can attempt to. They may recognize it. They may not. If they don't recognize it and they continue to take out withholding, next year, you file a ten forty n r. I don't know what that has to do at all with CP letters. Those are if you haven't filed or you haven't paid, then they'll send you one of those. Waheed, you're a piece of work, buddy. You're a piece of work. Julie?
[02:31:06] Unknown:
Yes. I wanna send Michael from Minnesota. If you wanna, contact me, Michael. I will send you all of this stuff that's all over Substack regarding the real ID and what it is. You're signing up for a digital ID. It's manipulate manipulative guides for government surveillance and control, and we must say no to that. So, I know my girlfriend did this a long time ago. She went back into the DMV and said her wallet was stolen, and she's in process of reverting it back to a normal, driver's license with no real ID attached to it. So, I'm being told do not get any enhanced driver's license or any real ID ID.
[02:31:54] Unknown:
Okay. Probably Okay. So my my my response to Michael was also just maybe call them first and ask him ask them at the DMV if if you can revert back to the state versus the enhanced and what steps need to be taken before you go there. Because I'm sure you can.
[02:32:16] Unknown:
Because if you're gonna file an affidavit, Michael, you said something about you being a national. If you're gonna do that, you're gonna get the replacement, the passport. And the passport suffices, excuse me, for anything that you wanna do with they they require a real ID. So if you're gonna do that, that should cure your problem. I I just you know, you gotta pick your battles here in this. And I as an old patriot told me years ago, he said, don't don't choose to pick a battle that you can't win, that you know you can't win. And, if just this traffic thing is just just could be too damn detrimental. That's why I don't even like it discussed on here because you can't nail it down from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. You don't know how they're gonna react. You don't know who you're gonna get. You don't know their attitude.
And it just that's not a battle I choose to fight. If you wanna fight that, I'm not gonna tell you not to because I appreciate the spirit. But I'm just telling you what all of us have learned over time. Try and keep your keep your life as simple and manageable as possible. K? That's my suggestion. It's not rec it's not advice. It's a suggestion. Okay? Michael?
[02:33:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. I will try to,
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revert it back to a normal driver's license. Well, at least you call them and see what they say and let us know. Because these are questions some some of us have. You know? Well, I'm thanking the lord. I don't have to have a license or drive or anything else. And one of the things I really like about Ecuador is the bus system is fantastic. It's dirt cheap. I can go up to all the way up to Quito for 17¢. Okay? I have to walk a half mile to the bus stop. But then taxis are also very cheap too, and I'm just so grateful. I don't have to drive. Yes, Julie?
[02:34:24] Unknown:
I just wanted to let you know that there's a, there's a on Substack, there's a huge chart on Substack that, that shows you when you get the enhanced, driver's license or the real ID on all the things that you are signing up, and that goes back to that contract that you, talk about where we don't know what we're signing, but it has all of these, you know, a recognizance or whatever in it. And then I also wanted to say that, they just announced that Mexico is making biometric identifier mandatory for all of the making biometric identifier mandatory for all citizens, and then The UK is going to force private businesses to accept digital ID verification to operate starting this November or face penalties. So they're rolling all of this stuff out at what speed.
Yep. So they're rolling all of this stuff out at work speed. Yep. And usually England's about five years ahead of us. So,
[02:35:18] Unknown:
I had to do that. They know which now I was flying to Europe, back when I was in Argentina and, to Stuttgart for ten days. And, they did that Irish stuff at the Argentine import. That was a airport. That was a number of years ago. So, I'm already. I don't see the big fear of letting them do it. You're a national. Quit fearing them.
[02:35:46] Unknown:
K? Well, if you're a national, why did you have to do it, Roger?
[02:35:51] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. They just said step here, and I did it. Because I was in our Well, we're not supposed to do that. Hold it, Robbie. Argentina doesn't give a damn what you are. They don't recognize that or know about it. Please, you people. You think everybody in the world knows about this and they're hiding it from you? They don't know shit. William's judge doesn't even know the legal definition of person. I don't have any problem doing it, Robbie, because I ain't scared of them,
[02:36:29] Unknown:
quite frankly. Well, we're not supposed to we shouldn't take any of the biometrics. That's what another thing the Real ID has is the biometrics of our face. Why it doesn't make any difference. Well, you don't need that. You
[02:36:43] Unknown:
so I I y'all either you're not getting what we're saying here or else you're still got your your panties all in a ruffle over this stuff.
[02:36:53] Unknown:
Well, what what I heard was when they have the iris scan, one of the things behind that is that they can see what they can see how the condition of your organs for organ harvesting.
[02:37:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well okay. Whatever. Who who else has got something, please? Okay. Well, then I'm gonna jet out of here, and go see about phones and other meals and other things. So, I'm glad you're doing that. You're hoping to get your phone. Yes. Pardon me, Lisa?
[02:37:35] Unknown:
Said have a wonderful afternoon, and I hope you have luck getting your proper phone. Well, I'll I'll I'll get one. Hopefully, it's the one I need.
[02:37:43] Unknown:
Gotta go back down there this afternoon, it appears. Anyway, that's my ball and chain. I hope yours is lighter or heavier. Lighter, I guess. So that's not much of a ball and chain. So, I'll see all you fine you fine folks tomorrow. Okay?
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Quit being
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serious. You guys. You're the boss now. Stop it. Get empowered. K? I'll see. There's my landlord. I'll see you tomorrow. Yeah.
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Right.
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Julie. Julie. Hi, girl.
[02:38:24] Unknown:
Can you send me that sub stack on the real ID?
[02:38:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll send you the the stuff on the Real ID and it and the chart and all that stuff, and I'll also send you the stuff on the biometric identifier for Mexico and the, information from The UK.
[02:38:42] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:38:43] Unknown:
Thank you. But, Robbie, you're correct on that. You're correct on that. What they're doing is with the Real ID, they're making a biometric marker with your face and your retina, so you're a 100% on that. That is what was spoken about in the Real ID, but not only that, when you sign it, you're actually agreeing to your digital ID, and then you're agreeing tacitly to all of these things in the background that attach to the digital ID, like taxes, all sorts of stuff with ecommerce, all sorts of stuff about identity verification and all of this stuff. It's very scary.
[02:39:32] Unknown:
Robbie, I put two videos in the chat room about the real ID and the dangers of it.
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There it is.
[02:39:41] Unknown:
Woo hoo. Can you repost that again, please? Because I just logged on to FCC. Thank you very much, and sorry for asking you to post it twice. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I can. Give me a second. Thank you.
[02:39:56] Unknown:
You're welcome. Give me a minute.
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Okay. Take your time.
[02:40:00] Unknown:
I'm gonna get back on the regular. I I was I was talking to you guys from the regular, the, the, free conference call. Now I can't get back on free conference call without it without being how do I get back on the free conference call part? Anybody understand what I'm saying dial into the meeting? Or maybe that's how I do it. Can anybody hear me? Can anybody hear me hear me? Hello?
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I hear you.
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Can you put can you put something in the chat saying that you hear me on the reg regular pre conference call? Because I'm hearing my voice in the background.
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I can hear someone talking.
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Can you hear this is me, Wahid.
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This is Moonchild.
[02:41:33] Unknown:
Oh my god. I wonder if it's gonna allow me to can can you still hear me?
[02:41:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah.
[02:41:44] Unknown:
Okay. I'm back, I guess. If every who is this, Greg?
[02:41:50] Unknown:
Greg? Gregory. Yep.
[02:41:53] Unknown:
Oh, good. Okay. I'm back. Thank you.
[02:41:56] Unknown:
You're echoing too. Somebody's probably got their mic open. My I'm gonna close mine. Good to hear you're still here, Waheed. Everybody else too.
[02:42:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I wanted to ask I asked Roger, can you you can't still hear me, Greg. Right? Greg.
[02:42:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Everybody hears you. I mean, everybody.
[02:42:25] Unknown:
Something happened when I I I tried calling a friend while I was on listening to Roger on a free conference. And then I couldn't get back on free conference Until I dialed her number and then it was dialing it was just a weird scenario where I couldn't get back on free conference
[02:42:53] Unknown:
Sounds like operator error sounds like operator error on your phone.
[02:42:59] Unknown:
Next time, leave free conference, your phone call, and then log back in, and then you won't have your phone lines tied up with each other.
[02:43:09] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I did. I tie I it got discombobulated. But Roger said that I had to do something first if I'm just a regular employee that does not wanna pay a file w twos every year. He's named something I was supposed to does anybody remember or can put it in a check?
[02:43:28] Unknown:
I believe you can update your w four with your employer and just file an exempt on there.
[02:43:40] Unknown:
Just so next year, file exempt?
[02:43:46] Unknown:
You can do it now. You can update your employee file at any time.
[02:43:56] Unknown:
And then and then when they send me the w two I mean, when they send me the whatchamacallit, next year, what do I do?
[02:44:05] Unknown:
Well,
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you have to When they ask me to file.
[02:44:13] Unknown:
Are you gonna file exempt? You're gonna up you have to update your w four. That's how they're able to do the w two. So you have to update Update. Four with your HR department.
[02:44:30] Unknown:
Oh, update my w four and go exempt on the w four. And but then what
[02:44:37] Unknown:
Yeah. And the second on there.
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Waheed, may
[02:44:47] Unknown:
May I say file a 10 you file a ten forty
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to you, please. Get a copy of the w four. Just, Wahid, you need to, get familiar with the w four form and then also the ten forty n r as Julie suggested. I yield.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
So, Wahid, you're gonna get you're gonna go to your employer. Larry already did this. He went to his employer. He works for FedEx, one of the largest con companies in the country. They don't withhold from his, paycheck anymore, but it depends on your HR department. You might get resistance from your HR department, and they might still continue to withhold. My advice to you is change your exact your the number of dependents on your w four form. If they're not gonna withhold, tell them you need to change your number of dependents and put, like, eight on there. The more dependents you have, the less that they can withhold from your, your paycheck every two weeks or how often you get it. You can get that money back. But if you get a w two at the end of every year, then what you do is you file a ten forty n r, and you put zero.
Even though they reported that income, you put zero on that, and you don't have to pay, and you can get whatever that they withheld back from you. But, again, if your, HR department is not gonna, work with you on the fact that you're a national and you're not a federal citizen and to not withhold, then change the number of dependents to 10 or something so that they're barely I disagree, Julie. I disagree.
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Information. Not lie on a government form.
[02:46:29] Unknown:
That's right. Gee, man. I I I I did I did that two I did that thirteen years ago. I said I had two kids so that I should get that earned income credit. And two, three months later, they came at me saying they wanted that they wanted my kids,
[02:46:44] Unknown:
Social Security number. Okay. I'm sorry. I had another. Sorry. I yield. I I'm sorry. So one of my other friends registered didn't have any, retribution or kickback. So, I I I I apologize for that. Then just be honest, and you can get that money back, on you can get that money back if if your HR department is not going to Okay. Here's what happened to here's what happened to me this year. Before you go into that, do you have a pen and paper, and are you ready to write?
[02:47:15] Unknown:
Let me go get that right let me go get let me go get a pen and paper right now. Every time you're on this call.
[02:47:21] Unknown:
I'll wait.
[02:47:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank thank you. Thank you. I have a book that it's called Roger, and I have a pen and a paper at all times.
[02:47:32] Unknown:
Hi, Sherry. Sherry, before that, I think you're supposed to ask him if he noticed the IRS. Because I don't think that he had done that yet.
[02:47:47] Unknown:
I I I haven't even done my passport yet. But shouldn't you shouldn't I do my passport before I do anything with the IRS?
[02:48:03] Unknown:
I I gonna have to use the brand Negro, please. How long you been with us here?
[02:48:09] Unknown:
You know that you spoke to me? Over two years over two Oh my god. I put I put everybody else on notice except I put everybody else on notice, but I didn't do the passport, and I didn't do the IRS. I keep I've been saying that for about a year and a half, two years, then I haven't done it yet. The passport or the IRS.
[02:48:30] Unknown:
The the IRS other ones are
[02:48:33] Unknown:
Waheed. The IRS you have to do it. Notice the IRS.
[02:48:37] Unknown:
The IRS and the secretary of state are the two most important entities you notify immediately when you decide you want to be con I gave you the secretary of state. I didn't It doesn't matter. You need to do the IRS. You need to do the IRS. I told you the two most important entities, they don't they're they're so important. You didn't, notify the IRS of your revocation of election. Okay. I'll let Sherry talk. I don't know what to tell you to do.
[02:49:02] Unknown:
Alright. Now this is for everybody. You wanna turn a voluntary document into a compelled document because a compelled document, they cannot use against you in a court of law. You just simply write on the bottom of it. Only submitting in order to be and I put paid on the w four because that's what that document is used for. But you could put that language on any any document that they are requesting information from you on. You turn it from voluntary into a compelled document. Only submitting in order to be fill in the blank, and I yield.
[02:49:52] Unknown:
What would the other instances, Sherry? Only submitting an order to be besides being paid on the w four, what would be other language that you could use that for, please? Thank you.
[02:50:03] Unknown:
Well, that's the only reason I've ever used it. But it just changes, your volunteerism into being compelled from them, and they cannot use a compelled document against you in a court of law. That's if we have lawful courts, which we don't. Why can't you just sign at TDC? Your name and TDC Well, I guess you could. I'm just saying you you write it out for the ones who have no idea what, initials stand for, that acronym stands for. Well, the last I mean, it's clear and plain. Right. Hey. But I found something, that I really wanna share with the group, and it's another kind of plea, and it's a dilatory plea.
[02:50:59] Unknown:
And here's the definition of it. Hang on. Hang on. Let's put the tax thing to bed. If you're thinking about, about, claiming eight, nine, or 10, whatever, dependents, You really can't do that because if you look down at the signature line, you know, there is an affirmation there that I claim that all answers on this former true and correct. It's kinda sort of signing it under penalty of perjury. So when they come back at you asking for the on that. Yeah. When they come back at you asking for a Social Security numbers of all your dependents, you cannot list your pet. You you cannot list your pet turtle. You cannot list your dog.
You cannot list your neighbor's kids because you give them cookies every now and then. You cannot list anything but those dependents that immediately live in your house and lie to your face when you ask them, did you do that? That's the only ones
[02:52:05] Unknown:
that you can claim. So That is that is absolutely correct.
[02:52:10] Unknown:
What is the false filing, penalty now? What's the state for false filing?
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5000.
[02:52:18] Unknown:
5000.
[02:52:19] Unknown:
Really? Okay. Well, he's got 5,000 numbers.
[02:52:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well well,
[02:52:27] Unknown:
I have first first hand knowledge on that situation because at my employer when, I went to try to update my w four, my HR department came back and told me that the legal department told me to just put more dependents, claim more dependents on my W-four so that I would have lesser taxes. And I said, well, that would be lying on a W-four form. So who informed you to tell me that? Because that's illegal. I don't have nine and ten dependents.
[02:53:01] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Well, unless, of course, you wanna count the neighbor kids that knock on my door on Halloween. Because because them little bastards are pushing. If they knock on your door and you don't answer it, they'll knock again. And if you give them a candy bar, if it ain't big enough, they'll say trick or treat again.
[02:53:26] Unknown:
Anyway,
[02:53:29] Unknown:
Yeah. And, Wahid, when you do notice the IRS, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please do not forget lawful legal notice not to be considered a filing. Yep. Put that shit right on there. Tell them it's not a filing, then they cannot give you a frivolous filing penalty. Because if it doesn't say that, they're gonna try and try and consider that communication of filing.
[02:54:05] Unknown:
Paul?
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:54:09] Unknown:
Also, if you get a passport immediately, you can include a photocopy of the front and back of that passport with every notice you send out, and that passport number shows you are a national. Right.
[02:54:26] Unknown:
Well, there are some people that can't get passports because my son, who is who works as a bartender and still has $3,800 a month in child support obligations for two children, he is kind of in arrears, so there's no way they would give him a passport.
[02:54:49] Unknown:
So there's gotta be some Well, there's exceptions for every rose. Some people have baggage, but if you don't have that baggage, you can do that.
[02:54:59] Unknown:
Well, his baggage is a little compromise. Baggage is a manic depressive crazy cat lady.
[02:55:08] Unknown:
That's his baggage. Hey, Sherry. I'm like I'm sorry for any more questions. Go ahead.
[02:55:17] Unknown:
Who is no. Go ahead. Who is this, Annette?
[02:55:21] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:55:23] Unknown:
Oh, I thought you were taking a year off. My, how time flies. I know. You're missing somebody. That's
[02:55:29] Unknown:
awesome.
[02:55:30] Unknown:
Holy shit. I mean, I've been missing you just terrible. I am so glad I am so glad that time flies when you're missing somebody. Welcome back.
[02:55:42] Unknown:
I thought you hey, Sherry.
[02:55:45] Unknown:
I'd like to hear about the Dylan Dylan oh, well, okay. Anyway, tell me about the the new painting. How are you?
[02:55:52] Unknown:
Careful how you say that.
[02:55:54] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:56:07] Unknown:
Okay. I'm back To my laptop. I was outside smoking. And, anyway, so it's a dilatory, d I a d I l a t o r y. A dilatory plea. And I'll give you Black's Fourth definition of it. A class of defenses at common law founded on some matter of fact not connected with the merits of the case, but such as might exist without impeaching the right of action itself. They were either pleased to the jurisdiction showing that by reason of some matter, therein stated, the case was not within the jurisdiction of the court, or pleas in suspension showing some matter of temporary incapacity to proceed with the suit, or pleas in abatement showing some matter of abatement or quashing the declaration.
So I found that quite interesting. The prosecutor in my court case used that term dilatory. It caused me to look it up, and lo and behold, I found that there's a plea regarding that. So I found it quite interesting.
[02:57:30] Unknown:
Can you spell it one more time? I'm sorry.
[02:57:34] Unknown:
D I l d as in dog, I l a t o r y.
[02:57:42] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:57:43] Unknown:
And he used that word, while he was calling me a sovereign citizen. I yield.
[02:57:59] Unknown:
So he was admitting to it. Did you object to that?
[02:58:06] Unknown:
Yes. I did.
[02:58:08] Unknown:
Then how did you how did you say it? I I object on the ground stand. Right No. No. You have to you have to speak it on the record. I object.
[02:58:20] Unknown:
I am not a sovereign citizen. But then I turned around and put it into the court record in paper and ink form as well because they didn't let me object in open court. Why not? I mean, I did object. I put my objection forward, and the prosecutor said, may I have my time back? It's not her time to talk. And so
[02:58:43] Unknown:
You can object at any time.
[02:58:47] Unknown:
I know it's on the record, but it was Paul, you know, how they ramrod you through.
[02:58:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they only ramrod you through if you allow them to.
[02:58:58] Unknown:
If you allow them. But, you know, sure, in a in a way, he's he's acknowledging that there is a stat by by putting that tied to the sovereign citizen, even though we know sovereign citizen term is incorrect, there is some acknowledgment there that there is another.
[02:59:18] Unknown:
That's why I brought it forward to you all.
[02:59:22] Unknown:
Thank you. You're
[02:59:24] Unknown:
welcome. No. I'm not cutting you off in that. I'm just saying we're in agreement, and, there are, case sites regarding that, and they're within, the definition of Black's Law Fourth. And it's my understanding that you should not use even the fifth. I haven't looked this up, but that there is, a warning on the fifth edition talking about changing of terms and words. So I haven't read it myself. That was just brought to me by someone else. I
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Can anybody hear me?
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No.
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No.
[03:00:46] Unknown:
Why? Yeah.
[03:00:51] Unknown:
Barely. Hey, but, Paul, before you continue, may I just make a a Paul, I have lost my audio, and FCC twice had to leave the meeting and come back in. I can see everybody's bubbles going, but there's no audio. Is this my laptop? Or Gotta be your laptop
[03:01:14] Unknown:
because I haven't lost audio yet. And you don't even wanna know what match machinations and and, weird hoops I'm jumping through to be able to hear you guys. You don't even wanna know.
[03:01:34] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[03:01:35] Unknown:
Chat's been really, really busy today. Holy crap. I've emailed messages. That's been real busy.
[03:01:49] Unknown:
May I, may I, no. Okay. I have to call What, for Todd and his group, what does DWG DWG, before on earth stand for again? I forgot. He mentioned it.
[03:02:03] Unknown:
Down with God.
[03:02:05] Unknown:
What is it? Sorry. Down with God?
[03:02:07] Unknown:
Yeah. On Earth and then the rest of it says on Earth.
[03:02:12] Unknown:
Yeah. And then, Joan, what are those apps that you were talking about, today? Because I'd like to get those.
[03:02:20] Unknown:
Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have to look them up. I mean, they're on my phone, but they're I have to look up the, actual whole long name rather than just look at the, the thing that you press on my I press on my screen. I I'll I'll get back with you, Julie.
[03:02:36] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Joan.
[03:03:26] Unknown:
Another way to handle those, repossessions on a car would be the way that Brady did it in Canada. He's still driving it. It's just on territorial jurisdiction rumble channel, a longer winded rant episode, and, it's probably from 2022. He basically sent the queen the bill at Yelp.
[03:04:03] Unknown:
Okay, guys. It's okay.
[03:04:06] Unknown:
Let's, let's take the stream down so I can get this, get this archived processed and all that. Thank you so much for joining us for today's exciting episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. You will find the FCC links so you can join us live on the show and the links to Euro Folk Global Voice and a a whole bunch of other stuff, downloadables, exhibits, interviews. It is literally a plethora of information, a drink from a fire hose for sure. Thank you for joining us. We'll be here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. Thank you so much for being here. We love each and every one of you. Ciao.
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[03:05:26] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Show Details
Discussion on British Legal System and Passports
Personal Stories and Grieving Process
Affidavit and Cover Letter Instructions
Legal Definitions and Unilateral Declaration
Historical Context of Tax Systems
Understanding Self-Help Remedies
Roman Civil Code and U.S. Law
IRS Notices and Tax Obligations
Real ID and Digital Identification Concerns
