Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 080525 From English Law to Modern Taxes: Understanding Your Legal Standing

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Thank you so much for joining us and welcome to the program.

And as would we,

we'll step up to the plate and take another swing, here on the

August 5, eighth month, fifth day. Radio Range, Roger Sales, your host. Glad to be here,

and, we're gonna get into a little teaching

today here.

Paul, would you be so kind

as to identify and

give our thanks to the folks that are helping us extend our reach? Alan is probably still not with us. Right?

I surely will. And,

nope, he is not with us today.

So that means

we are just on eurofolkradio.com.

Thanks to pastor Eli James,

and we're on Global Voice Radio Network,

My Pet Projects.

Been running that for a decade or two.

And,

also,

radiosoapbox.com.

Thanks to

Paul, our buddy across the drain. We got our we got our Brit friends with us today.

Yeah. Yes. We do. Maybe a couple of them anyway. K. We are international.

We are close. Alright. Well, we certainly appreciate all the help, and,

we keep trying to put one foot in front of the other. Gonna do it again here this morning.

Oh,

one

one little one little tidbit of information. The trifold brochure, the the trifold booklet

that we got from Gary and Gina.

It had been a while since that was updated. It still had the Sovereign to Surf website on it. It still had Okay. Yeah. They,

tune in,

PPN Radio Ranch, which is no more

Right. And all that.

So I updated it. I added nationalstatus.com

to it. I,

removed Sovereign to serve. I directed people that want the book just to go to the website.

And, I replaced,

exposethematrix.com,

which is a development site with the matrixdocs.com,

and I added the phone number. So anybody that picks up that brochure, they they've got the number right there. They can call us and join us live on the show. So Well, that's good. Good of you. And, yeah, there's all updated information. We've

know just intentionally,

I guess, from the start,

I didn't have big funds. At least I wasn't gonna dedicate them to hiring all these people and everything else. So we've kind of been a by the seat of your pants deal for many years, And I kinda like it that way, quite frankly,

because the information speaks for us

and,

and the power of it. And,

crow,

some of those things have, you know, bad relationships,

this, that, and the other. And some of those things have become outdated.

And then,

the show with Sarah Westall,

that we refer to occasionally,

so unusual interview.

I thought it was the worst one I'd ever done, quite frankly. And, because of Sarah not being negative to her, just asking questions,

I made the mistake of telling her I liked conversational

interviews with well, she

she took that liberally. K? And,

but I got the most response from that

by far. I mean, not even close from anything else I've ever done.

So, anyway,

interesting. Paul came in on the third,

segment of that. Heard the third segment came over and checked us out and been around here ever since,

helping us, and we've become an integral part of what we do here.

And,

so that's just the way we grow. You know? It's the way we roll, the way we grow, and, we're starting to pick up some good momentum, though. I'm quite pleased.

I can sense it. I can't necessarily

you know, it's like Morpheus said about the,

the matrix. He said you can't see it. You can't touch it, but you can feel it. Well, same thing here.

And, Todd and his group, they've joined us, and we're on the verge, I think, of doing something with Anne

of Andersteel. I have not heard back from her yet, though. She hasn't checked my WhatsApp message, so there's no telling. She might be

ultra busy, no telling what she gets thrown into. So we'll just wait and see when we become a priority for her again.

Someone sent me a pretty interesting

clip of Anne,

I guess, from her Twitter account, I think.

Well, I don't know how you keep all these accounts and keep up with them, quite frankly.

Anyway,

it was her. She was just 08:00 in the morning. I've just come out of my Pilates

class and this, that, and the other. And she got off on an IRS thing. She she mentioned Mike Ellis,

his name, who had provided her with this fellow's individual master file.

Mike Ellis is the one who,

back when I was with Alan Dask,

and

Mike Ellis had been studying the master file and all their manuals

for a long time,

and he knew what all of the, codes and stuff meant.

And so when I

and and Alan and I started talking about it, I said, well, I got the guy that's got the other side of that, Glenn Amborn.

And, just for the new folks,

my other teacher,

still with us, by the way.

And so I put Michael Ellis and Glenn Ambor together, and here they had the whole picture

because Glenn didn't have the internal workings.

Michael did, and Michael didn't have the scheme of what they were doing. And he put those,

oh, I guess my stomach's gonna act up again here. You put those two together, and,

we had the whole picture. Now what they did

was they found a doctor out in San Diego, medical doctor who'd been charged with two counts of failure to file.

And they got a law firm that was representing him that was,

willing to let Glenn write all the process and then just represent it, which is what they did.

So Glenn wrote all the process confronting this, beast of the IRS and the way it's set up and all these inner workings and stuff.

And,

they ruled against him at the, district court level,

failure to file.

So they appealed it,

and, the, appellate

night circuit out there in San Francisco ruled against them too.

And, at that point was when Glenn

turned his back on this whole thing,

because they had them dead to rights.

And and and it's like he told me, he said, Roger,

not only can the jury not understand it, but it is so complex the judge can't understand it either.

And, so that's like I said, when he threw his

hands up in the air and walked away. He's doing other stuff since. Doing a lot of writing legal process and stuff still.

But that and and Anne was just wailing on the fact that this guy, some guy,

they have they wrote returns for him and put him in there. And,

you know, that's all IRS process. And, of course, I know Anne doesn't know IRS stuff because that's one of the things she was asking me about.

That's not unusual. That's called a substitute

for return,

SFR.

And, that's how they

the whole scheme was when they they stopped the computer. I'm not gonna give you the whole IRS thing. We'll save that for another day.

It's not that time of the year yet, you know, Paul.

And,

so they go in because there hasn't been this guy had not filed in years, and he's going, well, they just kept putting returns in. Well, I think they could do that for seven years maybe.

Mhmm. They can go back seven years. So,

they had done as SFRs.

We call them dummy returns

because the dummy is the

it pushes the button, puts them in there. But that's,

the pro the the computer's programmed correctly. You have to have a ten forty file for it to go forward.

And it gets to a point for these non filers,

so there hasn't been a, ten forty put in there yet. So the computer can't go forward.

And so they take and they put a push code o nine.

Boy, I can't tell you the relevance of that. Push code o nine.

And that stops the computer, and then that gives them the ability

to put in a

substitute for return or a dummy return, whatever you wanna call it. You know, Russ? And this is where they've they've come up with the you know, they've added penalties and interest and all kinds of crap in there. There are no telling what the total is, and they inject that in. Hold on, Paul. And once they've got it in, now they start the computer up again. It sees a ten forty, and it goes on to assessment and collections. Yes, Paul?

I think that's what they did

with Anavon Wright because,

if you read the case,

if you if you you read the case, they were claiming that she failed to file for 2002

through, like, 02/2009.

There is your seven years.

Yeah. They did the dummy returns for seven years, and they probably sent her

confirmatory

writings

that

she didn't answer.

So

basically Now.

Basically, what hap what is happening to her is her own fault.

Okay. Yeah. That's right. You gotta know this IRS stuff if you're gonna play with these boys. Okay? Right. You don't have much of a chance of beating them anyway. But if you don't know these kinda inner workings, you don't have Jack.

So set 02/2002 to 02/2009.

So that's the seven years, and they must have started this some years ago.

Oh, yeah. She's she's been in the patriot community for twenty, thirty years.

Well, they've been the they they couldn't say start last year and go back to that those seven years. They would add to go to the immediate seven years. So this action against her started some time ago.

But, anyway, I just wanted to put that out, and,

I have not heard back from Andrea.

Alright. Who's unmuted and and who's who's, cleaning out the back closet back there?

Saint. The name saint.

Saints, please, mute. If you would, star six.

That kind of noise is being interrupted to the program, if you could, please.

You must be new.

I I knew we had a bunch of sinners around here. I didn't know we had any saints.

But, I see the record. Morning.

There's more.

So, anyway Hey, y'all. That's oh, oh, woah. Woah. Just hold the that's what Anne was, on this Twitter. I don't know how long ago it was shot.

But she doesn't know very much about IRS at all. So,

hopefully, that's one of the things we'll be able to educate her on. She's very interested. Yes, Mike?

Yeah. Me and Paul was talking last night,

and,

we found two more people to notify

when you'd think we, I thought of.

Okay. Who who would that be?

Head of the legislator in your state

and chief justice of your state Supreme Court. Now it could be. No. That's the legislator that represents your district.

No. No. No. No. The the name of the house.

Speaker of the house would be the state.

Okay. I guess you could do that.

Well, that would cover the entire legislative branch.

And

notice the governor that covers the executive branch

and the state attorney general or the state supreme court,

head of the,

whatever.

My brain's not working. My my mouth is still a little

Well screwed up.

I know. I got no I got no objection to that. It's,

at all. So I guess the more people see that piece of paper, the better things are.

I thought it was interesting yesterday, though, what you brought us, Mike. I'm from,

what, Giuseppe and Scorpio? We know Giuseppe.

I did I presented this on their program back when they were on revolutionary

radio, and,

it did it didn't take with Giuseppe at all. Okay? And he got, my wife works for the federal government. Okay. Well, so what?

You know?

But, anyway, I guess they're talking about it again, and I thought those, suggestions,

particularly on not everybody,

unless you got a bunch

of babble bucks.

But you certainly could take key people like inside your state, the governor, and

the attorney general and pay a service person to go serve them like a lawsuit.

And I imagine that would get their attention a little bit more, and I got nothing nothing wrong to say about that at all. I thought it was a nice,

novel kind of twist to what we do.

But,

I guess you can go ahead. You can get notified. Listen. You can notify as many people as you want to. K?

Well, one of the reason Alba said that is because

they can always,

their delegated

agent can say, well, this is not important for the attorney general, so I'm not gonna give it to them.

Oh, okay.

But but under the law of urgency

Yeah. But you're talking about the the state of. They don't care.

Well, they don't know.

I mean, they're just functionally illiterate the same way all y'all were when you stumbled onto this. They don't know this stuff. The attorneys aren't caught these key things in in in legal in in law school.

So part of our job really on the big end is educating a lot of these people, or attempting to anyway, best we can.

So yeah. Well, that's good.

Let's see. We got a we got a a bunch of there's there's a number of things happening I would like to well, I'd like to celebrate this one.

Gallup poll as of, I guess, yesterday or over the weekend.

So can is you got a fanfare drop in there, Paul?

Anything like that? Trumpets ringing?

Yeah. I guess I can't find it at the moment. Oh, hell. Okay. Well, as of the last couple of days, anyway,

Israel is the number one most hated country in the world according to Gallup.

Now, boy, we've come a long way.

We've come a long way.

You can I I of course, I I listen pretty much exclusively, not totally, but I always listen a lot to InfoWars and their hosts?

And

you that's all that's talked about. They can't get away from it.

But every time they try to get away from it, get a little distance in it, something comes up like yesterday. You know what happened yesterday,

Paul?

No.

Let's say you got one of those hurricanes that come up there in New York

and flood your ass out up there as we go because you haven't moved to Georgia yet.

Mhmm. Well, as as that happens, if your town

has

not signed a,

something against

BDS, you know, boycott, domestic, and sanction,

they won't give you any emergency funds.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's bullshit.

Now let me let me let me repeat that.

If you're in Florida or South Carolina, North Carolina, the mountains, any of that, of course, they didn't give you anything anyway because it's Biden.

But if your area

does not sign an agreement, I I guess,

against BDS and anything against Israel, oh, god. Heaven forbid us say anything against Israel.

More more of this word magic right there, big time.

Then you don't get your emergency funds. They're gonna be withheld.

Taxpayer funds

that are dedicated to that for Americans, contributed by Americans,

will not go to Americans if you don't

fillet Israel.

That's breach of fiduciary duty,

and it's abuse of judicial power and legislative power.

Yeah. And,

and counties can secede. So

any counties that don't get disaster funds because, you know, they created the damn disaster in the first place. Don't Yeah. They didn't. They

did Katrina.

They did Well, that is just blatant. Israel first over Americans.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

That is crazy.

Texas and Florida. Hold on, Julie. Texas and Florida

have both even got state laws on top of that. I can't believe in fact, they've already operated them in Texas.

Some little town down there didn't wanna be get down on their knees to Israel,

and Abbott cut off their funds internally in Texas or something. I don't remember the town. There's Ran for treason. About that. Oh, yeah. Aren't you? At some point, somebody's gonna take this and up up the courts and see if we can get it to the Supreme Court because that's just blatantly unconstitutional.

No. We're gonna have to take this to international courts, the International Court of Justice.

Well, they're not gonna get no. They won't recognize the UN too much power. Sorry, Roger. Recognize the international court or else we'd

extradited

Netanyahu

over there when he was in town recently.

So, no, they don't. And you're not gonna get satisfaction there.

That this against our laws. This against free speech.

I can't say up and say I don't like those damn murdering bastards over there. Well, we're gonna we're gonna cut your funds off. That that's unconstitutional right there. It's unconstitutional.

It's treason against the people of The United States. Things. Anyway, that's what's going on with these sorry assholes. And just to let you know, my old saying, Paul, let him give a monkey enough rope, and he'll hang himself every time. Well, they're in the process of running with that rope right now, buddy.

Okay? And they're so freaked out because so much in the world's turning against them because of their own activities

that they're freezing out. And and it's just a matter of time. Afraid. Or this oh my god. Can I please finish what the hell I'm saying, folks? Please?

It's just a matter of time

until this catches up with them. Okay? Bruce, you're second. Julie, what did you have to say?

Yeah. I just wanted to add that, you know, besides the Gallup poll, there's another site called World Population Review

and they compile the statistics,

from 12 different sources and they have their

five most hated countries.

Number one, China. Number two, United States. Number three, Russia. Number four, North Korea. Number five, Israel.

And,

they use,

for factors, they use government actions, number one. Cultural dominance, number two.

Number three, military interventions.

So, they basically are using these because of their

imperialistic

tendencies

and involvement in the affairs of smaller nations,

and also,

due to their authoritarian

regimes, human rights abuses,

and promotion of terrorism.

So I just thought that was interesting.

Yeah. The top three three.

Yeah. The top three most hated countries in the world are China, United States, and Russia, which doesn't surprise me.

China doesn't do a bunch of terrorism. They're not particularly warlike through history

with the, with the,

exception of Re you know, neighboring countries they join with, like Tibet.

They don't go out crashing people and and and doing war. They do war in other other ways, of course. I understand.

But,

that's They say that the reason why China is this way is because they,

they are they have,

so much corruption, forced labor, stuff

shops,

and then products using cheaper and unhealthier toxic materials and then they're also the largest polluter,

an emitter of greenhouse gas by a huge margin and then they, you know, the government refuses to grant independence and they bully Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau and they interfere with any attempt by Taiwan to establish,

political sovereignty and join the United Nations.

They've also been accused of debt trap diplomacy

Oh, okay. Where loans developing money

and they are unlikely to be able to repay. And in exchange,

China gains undue political

influence and can take over that particular

country. The Internet is heavily censored, and then the human rights are routinely

abused and,

suppressed.

Yeah. Very well then. And then they're also saying that their government's committing genocide against its,

older people.

So,

Yeah. And they're very They're going on and on and on on here. They're they're almost more racist than the Jews, the Han Han, h a n, Chinese.

There was a there was a case a while back that they've caught a mayor in one of those cities.

I forget how many tons of gold he had in his basement,

but it's more than most small countries.

K?

And he had so much cash, Julie,

they had to go get 14

counting machines

to count it.

And during the counting, it was so strenuous on them that three or four of them broke.

K? That was in his basement.

Alright. So if you want to get a good glimpse of China,

this is for the new folks. I've mentioned it before for our people.

There's a book that was reprinted

back in the nineties

by Barnes Review,

the remnant of the spotlight in Liberty Lobby.

And, it was written in the thirties by a guy named Townsend.

He was from a

ambassadorial

family.

In other words, been generation or two of ambassadors,

diplomacy.

And he spent two tours in China back in the twenties.

And he wrote this book

that was their stories of the American Embassy

and their peers. Because when you're over in a foreign country like that, the English and, you know, people that speak English and whatnot gather and hang together,

peer groups,

and some of their experiences.

And the name of the book, you can buy it. It's still available. Probably a used one. It's called ways

that

are

dark.

Ways

That Are Dark.

And this is before the Chinese takeover.

So what he's showing you is the real Chinese culture. Okay?

And, boy, it's an important book. When it was released

in the twenties, it was panned by the establishment.

Of course, they had plans for China down the road already at that point.

But,

if you really wanna get a glimpse into the Chinese culture, you go get that book. It's

guy's very dry. He got a very dry delivery, but a couple of times, he's got one of those wicked dry sense of humor.

And I remember I just sit there belly laughing on the porch reading it

up in the mountains in North Georgia.

And,

so excellent referral if you're interested in China and wanna know what it the roots of all that stuff. Bruce,

your turn.

Thanks for your patience

with me.

We gotta remember

and be notice of this that we

are the people and we're the government.

They are the office holders.

That's all they are.

So being a national, we need to practice

our government.

Well, I I don't have anything wrong to say with that, and it's another one of these splitting words. It's funny you should bring that up. I was thinking about it just

last night, I think. I was watching something, and they were talking about the government, the government, the government. For the new people, this is how important words

are. Just like Bruce said, we're the government.

We,

through our representatives,

signed a contract called the

civil compact, if you will.

And, we elect people to represent us that go up there to DC, ostensibly, to make the laws.

And then,

they hire people to execute those laws, and they're the agents

of government.

So what Bruce is saying is correct. So if you say, well, the government this and the government that, well, that's a big blob like

the blob movie from the fifties or sixties, whatever that was.

You you you were to use attack it. Well, I don't know.

It keeps shape shifting on me.

But if you go to the agents of government, they've got specific delegated responsibility

that they agreed to to take that job and receive that paycheck.

And should they step outside of those responsibilities

that are delegated upon them, they lose that cloak of immunity. They're the agents

of government.

So if you just substitute that one thing instead of when you're saying the government,

put in the agents of government. It's a whole different picture how how words

contain that. It's just like all these, these words that we're dialectically

conditioned to.

I I used to say a week.

Try going a day

without using the word money and substitute currency.

Try it.

You wanna see how deeply you're conditioned?

Go a day or two or even if you could, a week. I doubt if you could. And every time you're about to use the word money,

catch yourself, realize what you're doing, and substitute the word currency.

It it'll make a whole bunch of difference. K? Gotcha. Or you could use BabbleBox.

You could use BabbleBox.

There's a number of other euphemisms.

You could use two or three people there. I recognize Larry. Go ahead, Larry. But

but I got in there beforehand. Well, I didn't recognize you. I didn't recognize your voice. Go ahead. I don't care which one one of you.

I just I thought I still had the floor.

Okay. Well well, Bruce, I'll give it back to you in just half a second.

Way instead are dark. The link to it, it's up on darkstudexposethematrix.com,

and the link to it is in the FCC chat.

It's 300 some pages. Go get it. Excellent. Excellent book. Go ahead, Bruce.

Also, every lawyer that's in in the holding office,

in the government

is a double minded man because they're supposed to be in the court. There's the office of the court, not the people.

Okay. Thank you, Bruce. Paul?

Paul, your turn. Oh, you did your thing. Okay.

Alright.

So Israel's getting deep. Roger. I love it. Yes.

Maybe they'll talk about it. Yeah.

Go ahead, Laurie.

Yeah. I'd like to circle back to, Glenn, your teacher that you brought up at the beginning of the show. Yes.

We've all heard any any of us that have been here for a while listening,

we all know the stories how successful he and John were with their revocation of election process, I believe, back in the eighties. No. No. No. No. They weren't

successful with it at all,

except at first. The first few people that did it got big checks back. I wasn't too far from the start. And by the time I got in there, I got three frivolous filing penalties of $500.

K? So, no, it wasn't successful

in in the fact that it got through. It was successful the fact that they recognized it and shut it off. Now why'd that happen?

Well, because they didn't have the,

they understand the nexus of the secretary of state. That's the reason. Right? But,

Had they done that, we probably would live in a different country

today. That's how powerful

that one negligent little thing that they slipped up on. At that time, that's how powerful that was. We can look back and gauge it now. They couldn't at the time. Go ahead, Larry.

Hold on one second, Roger.

He's got a customer here.

Okay. We'll get back to Larry. Let me let me jump in

here. Back. I'm back, Roger.

Okay, Larry. Go ahead.

Okay. Yeah. I had to talk to someone real quick. Yep. So is there any way,

that we could get our hands on that material that they used back when they were doing those those seminars

and that we could study it? Does anybody have that material? It wasn't. Well, we've got it in workbooks.

I think Glenn might have a scanned copy of it.

Mine's all marked up, but I'm just all there's in there's a couple of court cases and stuff and isolated things that they were really trying to prove the tax thing in. There's no different

no, reason for you to have that to study it. I don't believe it'd give you. Well, it might give you some insights into the revocation of election, but I I don't know, Larry.

Yeah. I was just wondering if they had, like, step by step instructions on filling out the Nope. The previous size arrest forms. Nope. Nope. Didn't have any of that.

Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. You're right.

Yes, Paul. Hey, Roger. Some people sorry, Paul.

Some people used to be you used to reference them to go to the Weiss Paris for the revocation of election night.

Well, and Weiss Paris and and Weiss Paris didn't even know about the status stuff

because Joe Lustig has run into a gal that's still repping them.

And I guess she's

she told him, I think, or inferred that they're being successful. How they're being successful in a revocation of election

without changing your status,

I have no idea how that's going.

K?

But, yeah, Wise Paris has still got a website up there. I think he's got a

12 page thing up there or something. Mark reduced it down to one. We don't have Mark with us today, do we, by any chance?

Oh, it's Tuesday, not Wednesday. Sorry. Yeah. It's Tuesday.

Hey, Mark. Hey, Russ. So,

yes.

You know, I mean, some patriots

some patriots are saying, oh, the bar stands for the British British accredited registry. And Oh, god. And that's and that's,

that's an emolument. That's that's a title of nobility, and they should not be able to hold a position in government.

Well,

okay. That's crap.

Yeah. That's crap. But

if somebody is a practicing attorney,

they

would represent the judicial

branch,

the judicial

law,

but they're serving

in the legislature,

and they are writing law.

So there is

that's a separation of powers violation,

and it's certainly

a,

conflict of interest.

They can't represent the judiciary

and the legislature

at the same time.

Can they? Bring that up to bring that up to Brent on Friday. Let's get him to weigh in on that. Yeah.

So,

it's not for us mere mortals here.

All we're interested in is removing ourselves from their influence

as much as possible. I hate it when I do that. Was very interesting that yesterday,

Mike, crediting

those guys

saying that

oh, what was it?

That we as nationals, the only person we report to is the attorney general of the state.

I never thought about that before. I've thought about it a little bit since yesterday.

Pretty interesting, though. Pretty interesting statement.

So,

where else can we go?

The thing on Israel,

fantastic.

The fact that everybody in the quarrel seeing who they are finally. I remind you that two weeks ago,

the country

well, not too far to the north of me, couple hours.

Columbia

had a big with president is a leftist who started one of these

shining path fart type. It wasn't easy one of those, but it's something like that when he was young,

when he was full of testosterone

and urine.

And now he's gotten older, and now he's the president of the country. He had a meeting over there for a week or better part of it

with 20 countries. Two of them, I remember them saying, were Spain and Egypt.

Colombia, obviously, was one of them, but there's some other smaller ones.

But he came out with a public statement at the end of that and said, if we don't stop these guys doing what they're doing to Gaza, they're gonna do it to all they they plan to do it to all of us.

That's a hell of a statement from a president of a, well, medium sized country.

And, so the awareness on Israel is just really growing.

And,

so, anyway,

people are getting hit with it right in the face on whatever it would seem like, whatever news channel they listen to. Of course, if it's

totally establishment, they'll get some kind of a whitewashed version on, we have every right in the world to kill this two year old terrorist.

They're gonna be a real terrorist one of these days. Let's blow their heads off. Yep. That kind of stuff. Starve them to death.

What did I hear? How many many people are missing over there? 200,000

people

are missing.

So, anyway, that's, becoming conscious, and that's better,

just good for the world.

The the word the better the world can see these people in a proper focus,

the better we all are off because the world would be at hell of a lot better place without these slimy bastards in it. They've done nothing but cause crap all the way through history,

all the way back before Jesus Christ was born. They were causing crap. Same bunch. Hey. That's David. Good morning, David.

Hey. Good morning.

No. It's oh, okay. I I I wanna ask Brent I wanna ask Brent a question,

real quick before I dive into what I wanna talk about. Brent,

if you're on, were you on the last hour of,

Liberty Tree Radio last night

with,

Dave Stone? He's talking Brent Bachman here, not Brent Winters.

Yes, sir. Brent Bachman. Brent, e b, you there? Bachman, front and center.

I'd say he's not with us this morning, Dave. Why don't you go on with your speed low? This on the last night of Liberty Tree Radio. Is that corn key thing or or what?

Well, Dave Stone,

he is a township supervisor here in Michigan

in, Wheatland County or Wheatland Township. It's in,

anyway, it's in a big county down at the bottom of the state.

And,

he is also the

the commander of the Huttari militia.

I don't know if anybody remembers the Huttari militia.

The feds went after them guys.

I believe right after Oklahoma City,

they they sent in some,

some agents,

and

they tried to set them up, you know, oh, they're gonna go to DC and kill, you know, governments and whatever. Anyway,

Dave Stone was the commander back then. He still is. And he beat they they beat it. The the Hutari militia

came out on top.

And then Dave ran for

his township supervisor position, and he's been in it ever since.

So he's got a lot of intel.

He is one of four

township supervisors,

I think, in the country

that did not take COVID money,

in that,

whatever. It was an acronym

where they were giving out

billions of dollars of Chinese money through the feds

TARP. All these out

pardon me?

Not TARP. Think of

It's a

American the American Recovery Act or something like that.

Anyway, he he read the contract. He

he said, no. You you can't pay it back. They want assets. It's I brought this up before when he when when I heard him talking about it last year. And he said the contract is up in '26.

Well, last night, he came up on the militia call, and he said

he's gets a lot of intel.

And last year, he called

the,

the lockdown

before it happened.

He said they're coming with a lockdown,

and he wanted everybody to resist.

And unfortunately, everybody didn't resist. And,

they they were pretty successful with that lockdown and, you know, almost destroying America.

Small America, anyway, Middle Middle America.

And he says they're September, man. They're coming with a lockdown.

And October surprise is gonna be

a, a digital,

what do you call it?

A living wage.

They're gonna give everybody a digital living wage and if you don't capitulate,

it's gonna be tied to your bank account. And if you don't capitulate, you're gonna they're gonna shut off your bank accounts.

And he's saying he's getting this intel

as a township supervisor.

Okay?

So take it for what it's worth.

Mark Mark's

militia

is the people. Okay? They don't take orders from governors or sheriffs.

They that he has a five ten program. What does that mean? It's five men

on a five men two five man teams and a 10 man squad on every street in America. So there's five guys on each side of the street

that are the militia

and the rest of the street funds them, you know, with ammo and food and whatever they need to, you know, to keep their streets safe. K. And if every street in America had that program,

nobody would screw with us. Right?

And, you know, then you get the sheriff's involved in whatever because now the people are running the show and the the you know, there we're not gonna have no more corporate sheriffs or, you know, any of this crap. So,

unfortunately, we're not doing that yet.

And, but but but

these guys in Michigan,

we got a militia that's at least a million and a half men strong and it's growing by the day. The more crap these people

are spewing

and trying to pull, the the more people are getting involved.

And they come from all over this country

to train in Michigan, the militias of every state. Go ahead. I was just gonna say, well, that's interesting news. The October surprise usually,

the October surprise is usually before a November election.

Now that wouldn't be until next year, not this year.

So, I don't know how that relates.

Are coming up in

those contracts

for the COVID money

are coming up due in in '26.

And he said that you you can't pay cash is not an asset. Yeah. The only assets these

townships have is their tax rules. Yeah. They want the land.

Yeah. It it doesn't surprise me at all. They're doing an equity swap for Babblebucks

for those that had bite it.

That's what they want, of course.

And listen, folks. We're in we're in really

unpredictable territory right now, and they're the economy I can't.

Cannot Well, hang on, Julie. Let let me say one more thing. If anyone wants to hear Davis and

Mark Horton talking about this,

go to libertytreeradio.4mg.com.

It's the numeral four. I'll say it again.

Libertytreeradio.4mg.com

And,

you can see where you they have a replay number to call for the FCC

and you can fast forward to the it's the first thirty minutes in the third hour,

where Dave comes up right at the top of the hour, the third hour, last hour of the show, and it's really the first thirty minutes that he lays all this out.

Okay. And I'll yield there. Thank you. Alright. Well, it may it may be happening.

Wouldn't surprise me. They may back down. You don't know. I know they're desperate.

And you can tell their desperation by some of the things they're pulling like this

no money if you d DBS,

Israel

thing.

So we'll see. Just,

be be apprised.

Get yourself in the best position you can for any contingency,

and

at least you're forewarned.

Now Julie was wanting to say something as were several other people all of a sudden. Julie, what do you have?

Yeah. Just just to make matters worse,

with what's going on there, YouTube's coming out with a digital ID.

And then also, I'm not sure that, you know, when people start telling the truth about what's going on, we all know people are being suicided. So in France, the surgeon announced,

Bridget

Macron's

transgender

transformation.

He was just found dead in Paris.

So,

he he may not put it that way. They're really wanting to put that one under wraps. I can tell you. But I think they dropped their case against Candace.

She was not going to do a motion to dismiss

because she wants it to go forward. Right?

And then they Yep. Took took the defensive and dropped the case.

So pretty unusual for the person that files it Yep. To drop it. Right?

Yep. And then and then also, Roger,

back to YouTube, they're gonna be using

artificial intelligence to verify your age based on what you're watching and what you've watched,

historically.

They're gonna force you to give

a legal ID and biometric

data to access that, and that will soon transition over to the Internet and then to stores that you enter.

Same. I'll rate you two. We don't know what the national status is gonna have an effect on this. It should. I don't know how you'd navigate it in there. I guess we're gonna all find out, won't we?

Yep.

Okay.

Also, our, Amazon is gonna do the same thing for you to purchase from them. A a couple other people have floated that. Now is it just a float? How long is it gonna be for them to implement it? What does it mean when they do? All those questions are still unanswered. Yes, Larry?

Yeah. The things that Dave was talking about, you know, people's

bank accounts

potentially getting stolen.

Do you actually believe in that? Why don't you consider that,

Larry?

Hold on. Hold hold on. Somebody's persistent on top and on top of your code. Let's find out who it is.

No. I think there's some echo.

No. There's somebody talking.

It's coming from Saint. The echo is coming from Saint. It's open again. Saint old buddy, we've not met you yet, but you've kinda,

screwed up twice already. Could you please be conscious of this mute button?

Your background conversations totally screw us up. Let me let me Let me give you a little hint. If you get a call in

if you get a call in when you when you

either answer that or or end it, you automatically

get unmuted in here. So just

be aware you get a text. Make sure you're still muted because it messes with the mute in here. Thank you, Lisa. Didn't know those particulars.

Yeah. I was I was gonna share that.

Okay.

I was gonna share that. And for the new people,

don't unmute and just leave your phone open, especially if you're in a noisy environment or if you're working or whatever.

We appreciate you calling in while you're working and sharing your time with us.

But it

I mean, there's some people that like, one guy works in a kitchen or sits in a sits in a cafe,

and he unmutes waiting for a place to get in. And there's people clanging silverware all around him, and it's just just weird.

And it makes me hungry.

No kidding.

I haven't eaten anything yet.

Okay. I don't even remember who I was talking to a minute ago when all this started. Was it you, Larry?

Yes.

Yeah. What else what else asking you is

those things that Dave was talking about,

specifically

bank accounts getting potentially

stolen,

do you actually believe in that stuff? Because I consider all that stuff

patriot fear mongering

because it sort of borders with have you ever heard of, Howard Camping?

Back in the eighties, he was a

big time preacher. Have you ever heard of him? No.

Well, he was a Calvinist preacher,

big time Calvinist preacher,

and,

he had several books

that came out where he was predicting that

Jesus Christ was coming back.

I think it was 1987

or something like that. And then when that when that didn't come true,

he said his calculations were off,

and then he re predicted

the second coming of Jesus Christ.

And I think this happened, like, three times,

and you had people in his church

that were giving away all their money, all their retirement.

There's peep this guy was affecting millions of people. This guy was a big time preacher back then,

and he affected

the lives of so many people

where they were just giving away all of their possessions because they were very convinced

that Jesus was coming back according to all these calculations

that Howard Camping had come up with,

and a lot of their lives were ruined right afterwards.

And I think this

talk about, you know, retirement accounts getting stolen and bank accounts, this sort of sounds

very similar to that kind of,

you know,

discussion. Well, it could be if you got anything more in your bank account. 88 reasons.

Go ahead, please. It wasn't 88 reasons the world's gonna end in nine in 1988.

It was

at, like, 12:30 in the afternoon?

Okay. Is that the book you're talking about? Or the preacher you're talking about?

Larry.

I think I think so. I think that may have been one of the books.

Well, we've had the people Yeah. Cause I was like in the seventh grade at that time and I made so much fun of it.

Yeah.

Well, how can a preacher,

how can a preacher predict that?

They can't. It's just another call. Like the ones that wanted to follow the

moonbeam starship or whatever that all committed suicide. Those are all cultish,

activities, I would think. I was not familiar with him, Larry.

None shall know the day. Yeah. I remember when that happened too. If,

if you've got more in your bank account, then you need to just service your bills. Somebody needs to see if you can frost a mirror already, any of our people that hadn't come to that conclusion.

And,

they, they they don't do that. Now see, I'm in a very interesting condition here. And you say there's gonna be these digital coins. Well, there may be for you, but the but The US has made commitments with other countries that use the dollar. Ecuador being one, Panama

being another.

There's a island, I think, in The Caribbean that uses the dollar. Argentina

is moving over to the dollar. So they can't stop printing dollars because of these countries.

They've got let me tell you what, you won't get you won't get acceptance on cyber currency here.

When the communist president was in in office,

they tried to do a countrywide

coin currency, and the people wouldn't accept it.

The people would not accept it.

And then after he got out, they went back and passed a law that retail establishments

can't take Bitcoin and Cybercoin.

So you're not gonna get that stuff in our in in, Ecuador and probably the other ones too. So,

anyway,

that won't apply universally in within their system.

And all I do is I let them deposit my

Social Security in there, and I run to the ATM because we're on the dollar, and take take out a thousand dollars.

Boom boom.

So I like cash.

The people here, if we went to cyber currency,

they're so conditioned to cash

that that that if you got cash, you'll be king. Okay?

So, anyway, that's a little perspective on all of that.

What else is going on? There's y'all are brisk today,

with questions and comments. So

second day of the week, stuff breaking on Monday. Under. Conversational

today. There's Larry again. Yes, sir?

Yeah. So I just looked it up. It says Howard Camping made multiple predictions

about the end of the world with at least 12 instances

predicting the second coming of Christ

or the end of the world according to the Los Angeles Times and Britannica.

His most notable prediction was for 05/21/2011,

which did not obviously, which did not come to pass.

After that, he revised his prediction to 10/21/2011,

which also failed to materialize

according to Wikipedia.

So this guy, he kept changing his predictions. That's just incredible.

But this guy ruined the lives of so many

religious people in including his own church.

He he started to preach that the devil was in all the churches.

Oh, you know, what about that? You know, it's just incredible.

What?

Yeah. That was the one that was the one thing he was right about.

Yeah.

Well, even a even a broken clock's right twice a day. Right? Yes, man.

There's just wackos out there. There's five times in Matthew 24, Jesus says, do not be deceived.

Do not be deceived. Do not be deceived. I think he means it. Right? Don't be deceived.

And, boy, is there deception lurking

every

where in this world that these people have created

out of the total falsity

that we call debt money

and that we think we're free. This whole thing is built on those two principles right there, folks,

That we call debt money. That's why I said go a day and every time you're gonna use the word money, stop yourself if you can.

Or else after you say it, then go, oh, I meant boom and substitute the word currency. Just try it. You'll be shocked at how deeply

that is embedded in your subconscious.

Now yes, sir. Somebody said Roger.

This is Shane.

Shane from Georgia. Shane. Shane. You're a $100 richer.

Let's go.

I know. Right?

So, yeah, I've I've been listening to all the shows. I I just can't you know, because I work outside to

catch up and everything. But, Yeah. I I got some I got some questions, man, that, Good. Well, let's have them. That that I've come across.

Alright. So first off is, notices. Alright. I got all my green cards back that I've sent out so far. Alright.

Okay. What have you sent out? You sent out have you sent out to Georgia people yet or just the federal people?

Yes.

No. I sent out to,

let me put my glasses on.

Secretary of state in Washington, DC. Okay. That one's just an imperative.

Yeah.

Yeah. Right. And I sent out to,

where is it at? The Department of Labor

in the state of Georgia

and

the IRS

up in up in Philly.

Okay.

So

Now

okay. I sent the,

Department of Labor. Yes. I sent out my affidavit and stuff too.

Oh, is that Department of Labor? Didn't didn't you say in Georgia or in Fed?

In in Georgia. Okay. Yeah. In Georgia.

Why'd you do that to them?

Don't they have the,

they don't have anything to do with the with with the Georgia taxes, with the state taxes? I don't think so. Are you what you what we're advising people do now, and it's just recent,

is when you notified the IRS,

I would have suggested you notify the Georgia taxing authority on the same letter to the IRS as a carbon copy

and then send them what you sent to the IRS?

I think that's a good way to deal with some of this. We've had a couple of incidents

from the state taxing authorities,

particularly with Mike that was on earlier.

And they just come back and say, we refuse to recognize this. Well, I'm sorry. You know? So, I think with the original notification

IRS,

maybe that'll preempt some of that.

Anyway yes. Go ahead.

Okay.

So I was I was, trying to find out if I needed to send it to the secretary of state of Not of Georgia.

What we found out is the secretary of states of the state

have see, they don't have anything to do with passports, so that excludes them. But what they do have to do is incorporating businesses,

collecting fees,

all that kind of stuff. They're much more interstate

business,

in interstate business oriented.

So that's where we found that out in Connecticut.

And they just kept saying, well, what you try you you owe us fees. You don't have an account.

And so finally, we said, well, who's the top law official in the state? Well, that's the attorney general, and that's when we switched.

So that's why we tell you in the state,

the first person on top is the attorney general

because they're over all the law apparatuses

within the state.

Okay. So that's who I need to send them to?

And you wanna cc

carbon copy.

You're gonna send them in another envelope exactly what you send the attorney general, but you have them listed at the bottom. And you're gonna carbon copy your your local police chief if you got one,

your local sheriff Mhmm.

And the local district attorney.

And

as came up yesterday, there's a new twist on us. It depends on you you I know what you do for a living, who you work for, so you're not hurting probably.

But,

some people, another guy's process,

had them hiring a process server

and actually serving it on the attorney general

and the governor of the state.

So, like, you were delivering on the summons or, the, service for a lawsuit?

That it'll cost you. I I don't know what they charge now. It used to be $25. You could hire the sheriffs to do it. I have no idea what it is now, but they would actually serve,

and I we've never notified the governor before.

So that's

new. Okay? But at least the attorney general, you do it with a service guy, and it just adds more drama

to the fact they're being served with something of its importance.

Okay?

But you could put the other ones,

sheriff, peach chief police, and and, a prosecutor,

the guy that puts cases on the docket.

You you could do them all on one letter to the attorney general.

Okay?

Okay. Do you understand do you understand what I'm saying? Attorney general.

Yes. I believe I do. Okay. Good. So, basically, just send it to the attorney general and my state and Just state the sheriff, police, and the VA. Or you can always ask Mark too. Mark's been through this. It was a couple years ago. We might not have had these things exactly like we do now because of these type of incidents with this service thing. So what was your last statement there, Shane?

So,

send

send one

to the attorney general of my state and the Yes. Local sheriff,

chief of police, and, VA.

Yeah. Now you you understand And I know you do that. Sheriff personally. So Okay. Well, you're good. You can serve as on him as a friend. That'd be great. Let let us know what he says. Okay?

But you you'd wanna send him a call. Meeting with him. Okay. Fantastic. He's a good good man, Shane.

Tell him if they're interested in this and wanna know more, you tell him I will personally

teach him and any deputies that wanna learn this.

Personally. Okay?

So,

anyway, you'll wanna address that to him. And then at the bottom, you'll put CC, which stands for carbon copy. And you're gonna list those other people Mhmm. And then you're gonna send all of them the same thing.

Got it. So I don't need to do the attorney general.

No, you do need to. He's the head guy. He's over all law in the state.

Everything, everything's under him. Now then on the top of that letter,

you're gonna put, you're gonna want to put, we suggest you put

two things in bold letters, lawful slash legal notice,

lawful

slash

legal

notice,

and under that you put

notice to the principal

is notice to the agent.

Notice to the agent

is notice to the principal.

And what you're doing there

is you're locking them all together under the laws of agency.

Okay?

So

hypothetically

Okay. If your friend the sheriff

goes over and does something to you that's outside of his jurisdiction,

because they've been locked in with the attorney general through agency, the laws of agency,

real estate agents,

insurance agents,

etcetera,

and they've stepped out of his personal responsibility,

the attorney general also loses

his immunity

because they were locked together. And he didn't notice them enough or imported on them enough that they weren't supposed to do that, so he's culpable also.

Okay. So it's the same as the law, lawful legal notice

that that I sent to the,

Yeah. And I would've suggested

I would've suggested you did yeah. I would've suggested you did that with the feds, but we didn't have this conversation.

That's alright. There is gonna work anyway.

But that is what we suggest you do here,

in in state so you lock them all together in the laws of agency. K?

Now what you're doing here inside the state of Georgia

is you're fulfilling the first step of due process,

the underpinning of all law,

especially common law. Due process, the process due and oving owing,

notice and the right to be heard is the way I was taught. So you're giving them notice. That's why it says notice at the top. Okay?

And then if they've got any bitches or concerns about it,

you give them the right to contact you and express them. That's due process.

K?

Okay.

So what else? Say, I I Merck, I know you're very old. Title it as sir or madam.

Roger. To whom it may concern

your commissioner or your your attorney general or whatever, and then the rest of them will just get a copy of that. K?

Oh, yes. Because everybody else will be noticed at the bottom. Okay.

Alright.

One last thing that is I'm try I've been trying to find out I forgot who you called him,

but it was the one that you just, referring to as making a Citi back.

Oh, that was Joe last week.

Is there any way you can, point me in the direction to find that information?

Wow.

I don't remember what you know I don't have anything with that. Yeah. The episode?

You're looking for the episode?

Yeah. Do you have it, Mark? It's Yeah. That worked for me. February

February 1. February 1.

In the article

And then Roger, I'm glad

Oh. I'm glad you're bringing up the notices because I can read

the example that we use.

So no there's no confusion because there's,

I'll explain

why,

I'm reading this right now because there's so many students using,

a cover letter that looks nothing like what we use and is just all over the place, and it doesn't have what we have on it to be effective.

So I wanted to read it out loud so everybody can hear it, only students.

Uh-huh.

The you just gave

an example of it. Lawful legal notice is the bolded letter on top the three lines on top, lawful legal notice. Notice to the principal is notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is noted to the principal.

Then at the the next part would be your date, the address to Mark Rubio,

secretary of state

in DC,

US Department state.

Go go ahead. Well, the

I usually just I usually don't I don't usually use that on Mark Rubio.

It's it's not inappropriate.

It just we use I usually, in my mind, anyway, just use it within the state, but go ahead. There's nothing wrong if you do. Yeah.

You always wanna attach it and,

address the main person of the department,

which makes

our court of record

effective.

Then you put attention to him, and I am a national

I am a national, period, enclosed is my affidavit of citizenship.

Evidence, please place this affidavit

firmly and permanently in my administered file.

And please address your records and your actions You know what we should put after that and make all appropriate

data changes?

Because they probably don't have a filing cabinet with you in there anymore. K? It's all digitalized.

But and make all appropriate

data changes as to my correct status, something like that.

Yeah. So I usually say, please update your system to reflect my,

affidavit,

factual information,

or data provided. Yeah. And all records,

data, and otherwise. Something like that. Yep. Go ahead. Good language. Go ahead. So

so the, all the lawful legal notices

are

the same.

The only thing that changes is the address

and who you're addressing it to.

You wanna make sure it is the head of the department

so that it is on the court of record.

And, for the AG is the only one that has the CC. Sometimes the IRS would have a CC if you're doing it to Philadelphia.

So,

that's the simple,

you know, keep it simple with the notices.

That's all you need, and,

that's it. That's I mean, there's people And I heard I saw that there's some new students that are adding,

there's there's some confusion

on, the cover letters and affidavit.

The cover letters do not need notary.

Absolutely not. They don't

yeah. So, it's it's that simple. That's how we do it just so all the new new students that just arrived. Uh-huh. They understand,

how simple it is. Just keep it simple and effective. And let me tell you if you got a master,

affidavit that's notarized and they use a stamp.

Some of them just use a stamp and then write their initials and, date it or something. But if they use the old Right. Embossed stamp where they have a little metal thing and they crunch the paper between both sides and it it raises the seal.

If you've got one of those, take a number two pencil

and turn it on its side on the point

and very lightly go over, and it will highlight the high points of that. And then they will copy in any copies.

K? Right. So,

Yeah.

On

I just just wanna repeat,

just keep it simple. Don't add anything else to it. It's it's that simple. It'll be effective.

It'll be a court of record. Everybody's notified.

And after the AG, it could just be, you for the AG, he gets a copy of the

app, notice of the secretary of state. And after use when you type up your AG

notice and CC everybody else,

all the cc people get a copy. And it can be first class mail. And if you got a couple of certified. If you got a if you got a couple of notarized at a time, four or five, you could send this guy particularly an original copy.

K?

Then you'd pay to have a service guy deliver it, and it's got a little original copy.

I don't know if that would get his attention or her attention anymore, but it's

a much more of the professional legal type protocol.

So I would think it might.

Okay. Thank you, Mirka. You wanna give out your Telegram channel? Mirka's got a Telegram channel.

And she's wanted she stumbled in here. Mirka's when she was a little girl, her daddy used to take her for whatever reason to the law library. She remembered that, stumbled across our information, and you can tell Mirka's

got her arms firmly around this stuff. She studied very hard, and she came to me early on, said, what can I do? I wanna be involved.

And I said, we don't have a telegram channel. Start one. It's what she did. It's national, three words, national

status

freedom.

You can put that in. You should be able to locate her. I believe you got a link on the website too, Mirka.

Right. Yeah. I do. Good deal. Thank you. Invested in another location. Else? You got anything else, Sam? No. Thank you.

For the new,

new people that are sharing the information, make sure that you

do understand,

the difference of,

you know, making sure that it's factual, making sure that it is verifiable,

and, that, you know, you are using effective,

paperwork documents,

to guide people with. And people should be typing up their own so that they can practice the affidavit,

how to use it, how to type it up, and their lawful legal notices. We're gonna be using those. Yeah. We're gonna be using those from now on. And let me tell you the new folks something.

You know, I give you all this over a 100 of research results, three men's lives. You've kinda

gotten into the fact of how in-depth this is already from hanging around for a few days.

What I let me instead of what I do wanna do, let's let me approach it from the dialectical what I don't want happening.

And I don't want this. Oh, here's what you do in step one, you do this. Step two, you do this. Step three, you do this.

Because I'm giving you this, and I know that the only way it imprints on somebody and there's change is if you

impart the information and understand it.

What I don't want is these people coming on. I wanna get out of the tax system, and they start going step on. Oh, this is all I do. Shit this is easy. Bam.

They don't ever learn anything. They don't ever study. We don't ever see them again. They just unless they got problems, then you see them real quick.

But I don't want that happening because when that happens, nothing happens.

The only way we're gonna we don't have a a problem of people not filing enough paperwork.

The problem we've got is an education problem,

and we've got to correct that. That's why I say you're only as free as how well you have command of the information to defend your position.

That's the change that's got to happen. Otherwise, there's no changes. So you don't pay in somebody like the late David Strait and some of these people who are wanting to make a business out of this.

You pay somebody to do this for you. They're not you're not gonna go study. You paid somebody to do it.

The rare person might, but certainly not many.

And so that way, again, nothing changes,

because the world certainly doesn't change when you do this.

Okay. Now who else Love it. So we are over half the show already. I was gonna do a little bit of a teaching moment on self help remedies today,

but we are we're in this, endless question stuff. Yes, Larry?

Yeah. I always encourage students to get, the email and fax number

of the local state or or federal official

and not only use the The US mail, but send a notice

via those other two mediums, email and fax number.

And that way you're hitting them from three three different ways

and that that I think that

by implementing that strategy it makes an impression on them because

they definitely will open up their email

and check it every day

and they'll see that notice right there glaring them in the face.

So that's just another thing they can do.

A lot of a lot of students are challenged by

trying to acquire emails and what you can do,

I found this helps. Usually, most emails will be will consist of the first name,

a dot, and the last name of the official, or

just the first initial of the first name, a dot, and the last name, and of course the at sign, and then you just got to figure out like what the,

the suffix, the suffix of the email is

by figuring out like just in general, you might find like a general mailbox for that agency,

and it might be like, like like the IRS is irs.gov,

and so you just

type in the first initial

and dot last name

at

IRS dot gov or the [email protected]

and put those in quotation marks,

and then do do a search, and you can usually find that email,

located like in a document,

like in a PDF or something, and that'll help you verify that that is an accurate email, and then you plug that into your notice, like in your CC list,

and, and then you go you go send it.

We're sure getting thorough around here. I'd never thought of that. Roger. It's been mentioned. It's not a bad idea.

And, also, you could pick up the phone and call office, the governor's office, whoever you're looking for, and ask them what the email is. They'll probably glad you give it give it to you.

Just another angle where, like I said, we're getting mighty thorough. Okay, Mark. I heard you.

Let me finish. God, you people are you're like little coming back to the nest and little burly. Cheep. Cheep. Cheep. Cheep. Cheep. Cheep.

So, anyway, that's, not a bad idea. If you wanna do it, do it. I don't think it's necessary.

We're and I understand you're kinda educating them in this process too. But, technically,

once you've got it stamped in the post office,

it's their receipt of it, and it's their problem. From then on, they've been given notice.

MERCA. Yes, ma'am.

Right. Right.

So the I like the idea about the email and fax. That's what I explained to students too when,

especially when it's an,

after you send your newly sent out notices and you run into an issue

and you wanna make sure that that person gets it,

there's there's two things that I wanna explain.

The

one is that, you know, this this is what helped them

receive it. You can document it on your cover letter before mailing it out that you did fax it or you did email it.

And another thing is another concern that people are running into is the PO box.

The PO box,

as you know, Roger,

I never had an issue with with attorney general. They had a PO box.

And he got it, and I got a a correspondence back

responding to me, acknowledging me as a private individual.

So I had no issues with the PO box, but sometimes when you want to make sure that it is effective, when it's a reminder

to the, lawful I mean, to the public servants,

you wanna make sure that you do either fax it in or,

email it. Yeah. No. I forgot. I did the same thing with,

I did the same thing with IRS, Roger.

Of course. The problem with the PO box, that's the PO box they assigned to receive mail.

Right. They just feel like it's not gonna get to that person directly. So

yeah. Technically,

it doesn't matter

once you put it into the postal system and had it stamped by the clerk in some capacity.

At that point, it's considered received.

Yeah. There's all these all these people that are so skeptical. Oh my god. They're not gonna put my affidavit in my folder with the passport.

Go do a privacy request. Everyone that's done it has found the documents in there. But I understand how people are antsy about that. It's all this fear and stuff that's been installed and instilled in us since we were young, but you gotta try and work to get over that. That's what studying and learning the material does, is it reconnects you with God and his laws, and it empowers you all because you can defend your position, and you know what the hell you're talking about. That's why it's so important. You don't have to learn it to the extent that I I know it. But you gotta understand it enough to be able to, a, defend your position and, b, teach other people.

Merica. But it's not Oh. It's it's not only that, Roger. In my opinion, it's a very justified

mistrust of government.

I agree with you. Gonna do what they're supposed to do. I got I got no problem with any of that. K? They've earned every bit of it. Alright?

So but just try and work on yourself becoming strong.

Work on yourself becoming empowered. It doesn't happen instantaneously

or overnight.

But if you work on it and learn the information,

it will come.

Right. You you you get the knowledge and it grows. And it also,

even if they don't receive it or they don't acknowledge it,

they it's a court of record. It's already

set there.

They can use that in court.

Alright.

Yes. Me. Me. Me. Me. Me. Me.

Yes. Go ahead. I would pay more attention to the fax numbers

and,

faxing a physical hard copy into their office because you have the confirmation page on the fax sent.

You don't have any way of proving

that an email was delivered unless

you use a mail server.

Every mail server in the chain supports delivery receipts

and delivery confirmations.

So you're not gonna be able to prove they got it by email. So you still have to serve them by US mail.

You can fax them. You have proof there, and you can send an email

just to make sure they got it, but you can't use the fact you emailed it as

as proof that you served them. Hey, folks. You got no proof that they got it. If you get it stamped with a certified return receipt at the post office by the clerk where they pull out a stamp and stamp it. It's considered

received.

Right. It's the same thing the IRS does to you.

They send you your last known address,

and it's considered received once they put it in the post office.

Yes. Because it's your responsibility

to file change of address cards and forward your mail

so people trying to reach you can get you. That's what the IRS figures.

Okay. It's really new folks, this is really not all that complicated.

You're getting hit with a whole bunch of stuff like this email thing I've never even heard of before or faxing it to them today. Yeah. I wouldn't bother. So so,

it's

believed May I It'll it'll get to them, and they'll know what it means or else if they don't, they'll go ask their supervisor or somebody,

or else they'll respond to you with some asinine statement

that shows that they don't know what the hell is going

on. But keep trying. K. Yes. Who so was that Sherry?

It is.

Just to add to the facts,

the facsimile

service,

once you put it in the mail, certified mail, and you have that stamped,

verification that it was done,

add that to your cover sheet to for your facsimile

And put on the top of your transmittal doc not transmittal, but, your cover letter

that an advance copy was sent

via facsimile

and the phone number it was faxed to.

Okay. And

just add that to that document, the fax, and,

good to go. I yield. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Folk new folks, although a lot of this may sound complicated and complex,

it's the whole process is very easy. K?

I and it works. Hey, Roger.

It's ideas like that that make me love sharing all of our self help lecture. Yes.

Go ahead.

What's me, Wahid? Yeah.

If this is this is pertaining to to the

the

I sent put everybody on notice. I didn't send any faxes or none of that. I just mailed it all off. Yeah. We didn't know about that. Except the one I forgot. Yeah.

Yeah. Don't worry about it.

That was two years ago. Oh, so you are there

we're you're you're putting the burden on us to make sure they received it. All we have to do is put it in the mail and get it stamped.

Right. Get the burden off of you.

I agree.

Okay. Waheed, somebody else Roger, it helps some of us sleep better. I yield. Okay. Well, if you sleep make sure you sleep better, you go and do the extra work. Okay? It's up to you. It's your freedom, but it's not required.

Yes.

I don't think.

Yes. Who said Roger?

Was it Rick?

Well, I did. Danny in Tennessee. Oh, it's Danny. Hey, Danny. Related to cert yeah. Related to sending certified mail. A story I heard from a guy back, like, in the late nineties or something. He was

talking about sending stuff certified mail to, I think it was some local officials, but when they got to a a court or some kind of hearing,

the the officials

said that they

they they received the

certified mail, but the envelope was empty.

Well, that's a new one. The way to dodge it?

Yeah. You could have somebody else,

put it in the mail. Well, that that Danny, that's never we've never heard that anywhere else. An affidavit made up. Danny, this is a onetime example you're given. I've never heard of anybody else doing that.

So just make sure you lick it Oh, yeah. I never heard of it. Seal it with a piece of tape or something.

Okay. Kinda

Yes. You can easily

circumvent that by going to the post office,

actually talking to a clerk.

Don't seal the envelope until you're in the presence of the clerk,

and ask the clerk to give you a certificate of mailing

and to make a note on

the

on the certificate of mailing, what the contents of the envelope was when it was mailed,

and hand it directly to her

so there's absolutely no question.

Okay.

Danny, anymore?

Well, as far as,

the,

being received when it's mailed,

I don't know according to court rules, you know, they they have that kind of thing, the mail rule.

I remember some place that was saying that,

yeah, that that would satisfy

thing providing they actually receive it within ten days of when it was supposed to have been received.

Well, I imagine if you get back the green card and if even if you don't get back the green card, you can plug the numbers into the,

computer and post office to tell you whether it was delivered or not. You should have a photostatic copy of it.

So I I see this as all kind of moot.

Well, yeah. I just Okay. Some

obscure things that have come up. Well,

we

okay.

Let's wait till they come up in practical application.

One more comment.

Because we can't cover every possible contingency on the face of the freaking Earth. Okay?

Go ahead. If you got something important that you're trying to get to a court or somebody, send two copies separated by one day.

Oh, boy. Okay. Something like that.

Yep. Alright. Anybody

else got something to say? We an hour and a half. I was gonna give a lecture today kind on self help remedies and whatnot.

I don't know if I have the time.

But

Well, Roger.

What is what is a self help remedy on a knee injury?

There is no such thing,

Waiheed. What do you know?

Waiheed,

where where do you come up with some of these questions?

Well, you said you have you said something about self help. Are you I was gonna give a lecture to the new people on self help remedies that you should have heard already a number of times as long as you've been around here.

How about self help remedy on your knee? Is that what you ask?

Yeah.

Oh, I thought you were you were gonna give yourself up on, like, on a medical level. Oh, you mean, like, dealing with the law the,

Nash

Lean, lovey, garnishment, and seizure, Wahid.

Tune in tomorrow. We might get to it then. You're a you're you're a piece of work. Sometimes it's you're a piece of work. Sometimes it's so beneficial to think before you open your mouth, Wahid.

But I think Gary is trying to say something. I I thought I heard Gary in there. Gary?

Roger, I just wanted to let know that, I appreciate Paul updating that pamphlet that Gina and I made.

Yes, sir. Thank you, Paul.

And everybody

that's on this call should be printing those pamphlets out and hanging them up or passing them out. It's that simple.

Agreed.

People do your part. Do your part, people.

How do you feel about it, Gary? Spread this mess.

Oh, I'm good.

Okay. I'm Getting back healthy, man. Okay. Well, that's really good to hear, man.

Gary, because there's a blank panel good, Gary. On Because there's a blank panel on the back page

of that trifold,

I'm trying to come up with a landing page or a splash page with,

key new student information that the real teasers

and stuff

that expands

Paul. On the stuff that's in there, and I'll put a QR code on that spine.

Well, Paul, we did that on purpose so the people passing out those pamphlets

are hanging them up on notice boards,

could write their own phone numbers Right. And telephone numbers that they wanted to write on. Right. Good deal, Gere.

That's why that panel was left blank.

For the new folks don't know you and your wife, Gina,

Gary, at one point before he got sick here a couple years ago,

will,

abdominal something some sort, pancreatic pancreatis attack, pancreatitis,

whatever.

He's over it now. Thank goodness. Very painful. It originally

started, Roger, with a severe allergic reaction

of oyster red cedar,

which at the time, I didn't know was one of a very highly toxic

toxic wood. Okay. Which led to the pancreatitis

and other stuff.

Really? Okay. Anyway, he got very sick. We didn't hear from him. He was in the hospital for a while, and he's back. But before that,

over a couple of years, he and Gina, his wife, as I said,

had started a weekly meeting group on Monday night up there in this up in,

Kalispell, Montana

and, Flathead County, I believe. And they had over 50 people a week coming to those meetings.

And it overflowed to another meeting on Wednesday night held intermittently for new people,

so you could get all these basics.

So, anyway, are you gonna start that again, Gary, eventually?

I don't know, Roger. I mean, I put in a lot of time and effort with that. It takes

work, man. It takes work. And no

yeah. Just appreciate the work you put in, buddy.

Yeah. I mean,

you know,

twelve hours a week, if if not more. Yeah. And just appreciate the Paul and every Dave and Kaye and Mirka and

you know, I've been around this a long time.

So I appreciate the fact that we were coming to

pass information on to more and more people. It's growing.

It seems Gary with the complexity

of this and the way it was set up and effectuated,

you've got to have a forum like this to address those ambiguities and that confusion and explain it to people so they can it's it's a necessity. If we didn't have this forum, we wouldn't have had the success we've had.

Damn, Gary. One thing, Roger, I listened to the replay from yesterday

and that grok thing that John presented.

People, that's telling you right there

that they are using the laws of agency

against your all capital name,

you gotta remember

that is a person.

The all caps is a person.

That is not you.

Your Christian name versus the all caps name,

you gotta separate the two in your mind. That is a person. And when you accept responsibility

for that person

Under the law, you agree to be its agent.

And if you need proof of that,

go read the microprint

on your checkbook.

Yep. It's right there.

Hey, Gary. That's correct. Authorized

authorized

agent.

One So, anyway, that's all I got, Roger. So hang on. Gary. Good to hear from you. Go back to work. Stay away from the red cedar.

Gary, one more quick comment about the trifold brochure.

The

only panel I changed was the resources panel because all of the rest of the information, the layout, it's awesome. It's beautiful. I didn't change anything else, just the resources panel.

Everything else is as you created it.

I understand, Paul, and I appreciate it. Thank you very much. And you guys all have a good day. I gotta go. Gary Eagleman. You, Gary. Thank you for injecting there. Who else has got something? New students?

Are y'all overwhelmed but yet?

Todd, you're overwhelmed?

Yes.

Are you a new student?

I'm not a new student, but I have an interjection

on the, QR code.

Okay.

With with all the fraud that goes on,

I won't scan any QR codes because you don't know where it's taking you. That's very probably very true, Muse.

I never would scan one of the things. I don't even wanna talk to AI.

Yeah.

Somebody said Gab.

Gab has gotten AI. That ought to be a pretty good one.

Yeah.

So,

anyway, good good, good injection there, miss. Anything else?

Okay.

Todd here. How are you?

Hey, Todd. You're the man I was looking for.

Are are we my brother? I'm alright. Are we giving you guys too big a drink out of the fire hydrant here or what?

I was blowing mom's lawn, and I got in five minutes late, which I hate being late. And,

they kicked me out about four times. Whenever I comment something they don't like, apparently, they throw me out. Who? Not not your crew.

That's them.

I just wanted to digress. I have a couple of new students that wanna I think we have a bunch in here. I think a couple wanna just ask a couple questions. Is that alright? K. It's fantastic. Yeah.

Alright. Saint or any lady is first or Saint or anybody else. Go ahead.

Saint. We've already interacted with Saint a couple of times. Saint, why don't you come forward? We've never had a saint around here.

Got a bunch of sinners.

Yeah, Roger.

Hello, saint. Is that you?

This is Christian.

Hey. Oh, it's Christian. Hey, buddy. Well, you're close to a saint. Noovie.

Noovie. Yeah. I'm just I'm just trying to soak it all in.

And,

yeah, that was pretty good about that Q code. They're they're doing that in restaurants and everything else now. Everyone an open Yeah.

But what I'm gonna ask you have fun? You wanna have fun?

Carry a little black Yeah. With those felt markers

and go and fill in a square on their QR code.

I love it.

Where's the passport and all this? You know, you didn't give the, all this and

didn't hear anything about the passport.

We hadn't mentioned it today. I hadn't got to it. I hadn't got those,

self help remedies either. We'll have to stall that for another day.

I don't know that I've got the time to get into it today and explain it now.

Okay.

But so what else? Yes, sir. What else? Just stay tuned. I know some of you that are new,

you sit down and you get in all of a sudden you're in face to face with the real lawn stuff.

You probably,

wherever your roots are, if you've been studying in this area, you probably hadn't come across much of that.

And so you get hit with a lot of these things that are making the upside down dialectic of the words and all the rest of the stuff, and it makes your head spin. And I don't want you to think

like we're giving you a drink of water out of a fire hydrant.

Just keep working at it. It's just new. It's not hard. It's just new.

And you just keep working at it, going over and over, and you'll get it. It's not hard. K?

So,

Todd, we were trying to raise saint, but I don't we raised Christian instead.

We're not up to the saint level yet. Can you help us?

I don't think we hit the saint level.

Okay. Well, we might have to back off for back off for the day.

He posted in chat that he's at work, and it's too loud for him to speak to. Steve. Thank you.

We'll get you when you're if if you can't get away from work, we're we're here on

Saturdays, and hopefully, they're not working you on Saturdays.

Although that may be some good Yeah. And we got everybody's aware that it's in the disc I have it in the discord. I I've put up

the information to go back, not only watch, listen to the show, but people you also there's transcripts there for anybody who,

might be hard of, hearing or or so or so forth.

Paul was so gracious. I believe Paul is the one who put together that. No? Yeah. I'm well, it's in the it's in the, archives website.

The Radio Ranch?

So everybody else so that's out there. Anyways, I digress. I just I'm here listening.

There are several different archives, unfortunately. I hate it that it's that way. It's just

when you install a virus thing, it wipes all those links out, and I didn't have the information to, to reconnect them. And so that whole six years or however many of archives just had to be set on the second tier.

Sorry for that. It's just one of the growing pains. Alone, I mean, every you could find everything you want from the state,

you know, use everything. State Gov dog to to to the, woman that

had a had

a had a,

offspring, and they claimed it was theirs. You know? We got all of it. Yeah. Okay. Good deal.

So you Thanks. Well, saint Saints at work, are there any of of your gals?

You got a good contingent of gals there. Isn't that interesting? Thirty years ago, there weren't very many, especially single women at any patriot meeting.

And now Yeah. We're about fifty fifty over here. Well, the men have been basically demasculated.

However

and so the women are having to step forward and take those roles. That's what's happening. It's amazing. Tyler,

You you hear a bunch of them, Merica and and Sherry and Lisa and all these gals, man. Type a lionesses

is what I call them, Todd, and we welcome them. So are any of your, type a lionesses have any questions?

I I do have a quick just coming in to say hi, Roger. This is Gigi.

Oh, hey, Gigi. Well, thank you, dear. Hi. Back to you.

We'll see if we get Mark on tomorrow,

with your problem. You're a unique problem. I don't know if we I don't know what we can do to help you, but you're above my pay grade already. So maybe Mark He's doing great. We're working with her hard.

Okay. Alright. Good deal. Am I Roger, am I muted?

No. Yes. No.

Well, yeah, no. I can't hear you. About that. I've been trying to get

my apologies. I've been trying to unmute this thing for thirty minutes, and I had to call back in. My apologies. This is Brian. Hey, Brian. I got a quick question. Hey, Brian.

I'm just Okay. I'm how are you doing? I'm listening in.

As you know, I've been at this a long time and heard, you know, just old timer here. A lot of so many different things, but I got a question.

I got a

oh, I got a question for you real quick. If I was just starting off in this, knowing what I know now,

the status thing is no doubt about it, but the taxing is I've never really ventured into that. I've just always

basically avoided it because I had corrected everything and had been more focused on

the jurisdictional stuff. So my point is is You're in a very peculiar position because you're in insurance.

The reason there's so many insurance people that were in the patriot movement when I got into it was because they grab your residuals,

and they're gonna report you to IRS.

And and and there can be a problem there. That's why there's so many insurance people in the, patriot movement. But go ahead.

That's a good that's a good point, Roger. And I and just to shed some light, there's I'm involved in other,

just things that, you know, are outside of insurance. So there's kind of a, you know, multiple,

basically, streams is what I would call it. But my point is, if I was just starting off in this and I'm listening in, hopefully, this can help somebody because

I I've been in this a long time, and my head's kinda spinning on whole texting.

So where could I go

that maybe someone or and pardon me if I'm, you know,

I just haven't been, you know, an interest on. But where can I go where there's like an outline like your status thing is well put together, but who's got something on step one, step two, step three on basically correcting clearing up this whole

tax assumption so that, you know, I don't get hit with something or, you know, just deal with things because I'm just basically I'm the newbie in the tax thing, so maybe start with Well, I Is there a single source that I can read? Yeah. I don't know if there is such a document. You know? For a long time, I hated taxes so much that we didn't even talk about it very much.

Although that's the most common denominator

issue for people because everybody's interested in their pocketbook.

But,

as, I as we get closer to next spring in April 15, we'll do more of it. There is, and I'm not sure what episode it is.

But I did a whole

complete

history of the income tax system we're under

back around the spring of last year. Paul, I don't know if you can locate that or not.

But,

you know, John and Glenn were the experts in the world, at least on our side,

on this tax thing.

And I could probably go into a little bit of background here. We're limited on time somewhat.

I can't hang around today

because the house cleaner is coming.

But, John and Glenn, this is John's Ballywick. He got into it. He thought he could change America

if people understood the tax system. Well, hell, you it's antiquated and burdensome. I know virtually nobody can understand it. So I think he was wrong from his the get go that he thought the tax was the vehicle to get him what he wanted, which

is countrywide awareness.

It's gotta be jurisdictions. It's gotta be simpler. It's hard even now. Okay? But Roger, may I?

Yes, Lisa.

Brian, can you do you have access to the chat?

No. I'm not even aware of a chat, but I'd if you just steer me there, I'll find it. I don't know about the chat.

Well, there's a chat on here, but aside from

that, there's a couple

of the students here. I'm gonna call them Dave and Kate that have

put up their own website,

which is nationalstatus.com.

And he put the link on here at the end. Dave Dave and Kaye are their names. Here's the step by step we use with the IRS and employer.

Okay. Very good. Cell phone. There

you go. For nationalstatus.com.

If you're on a cell phone, I I don't use one of those. So

if, like, Paul or somebody else wants to chime in to

tell you

how to access it on your phone? Because I don't really know.

Can I come in? Alright. Well, thank you very much.

Sure. Go ahead, Paul. I think I have something to add to this.

Earlier in the program, we talked about Joe Lustica and the discussion that we had,

with him on his, impending taking over his actual city. And now we're talking about income tax, and and I don't know how many of you know the power

of the archives.

So what I want you to do is I want you to go to the matrixstocks.com,

the matrixstocks.com,

and I want you to click on

Global Voice Radio Network.

It's right under if you're unable to connect to Eurofolks, the program is also simulcast on Global Voice Radio Network.

You click on that, there is a search field.

The search field, if you put in

income tax, in that search field, you will get five episodes

from 07/1625,

Patriot Birthday, a journey into tax freedom, Radio Ranch,

first 06/1725,

collective efforts in the freedom movement, insights from the Radio Ranch. Historic interview with Glenn Amboort and John w Benson, the hidden history of taxes and global control, that's from 04/1825.

Radio Ranch with Roger

Sales. That's a that's the history of the whole thing from December

on. That's when our income tax system started, Brian, in December.

Go ahead, Paul. Right. There's the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales from 04/1025

to power of affidavits reclaiming your rights.

And the Sabadeau edition with Roger Sales from 04/05/2025

unveiling the tax system from ancient roots to modern implications.

Probably there's YouTube.

If you just go

to the archives

and type in, say, Jolastica

or income tax

Let me let me type this out right here. There's,

three,

three episodes with Joe Lustica who was talking about, his thing.

We have,

episode nine thirty eight, Radio Ranch Saboteau edition.

We've got and that was from 02/01/2025.

We've got Radio Ranch one zero one, Joe Lustigov,

New Jersey, where he talked about

what he did. That was 01/06/2025.

Global Voice Network bond discussion with Joe Lustica, cracking the code, exploring tax evasion and money laundering in courts. That's episode e one seventy five,

and that is July

2023.

They're all right there.

And,

they have full transcripts,

full show notes, and,

chapters.

So Yeah. Pack a lunch, stay the day, baby.

But but it's all right there. It's easily accessible and easy to find too. Oh, what I was saying, Brian,

was how this all started. John had this longing for taxes, and he just to tell you the few people the sacrifices that have been made to get where we are.

John had become estranged from his family,

even until his death is what his whole family, children, everything.

He was excommunicated

from his church for being a felon,

which he wasn't. They falsely convicted him on all that stuff.

And, so at one point during that, he was in the Denver area,

and, they had a patriot group there. John Nelson was part of it. Another really,

in some circles, famous researcher.

And,

John had

one of the guys had a carpet

store, and he had a warehouse in the back

in Denver.

And John

threw a mattress there and slept on a mattress in a carpet warehouse

for sick

for sixteen

months,

something like that. And with eyesight as bad as mine, where you had to use a magnifying glass

as thick as a coke bottle

to read court cases.

And that's where a lot of this came from, folks.

And so just to let you know, I mean, you know, that's

hell of a sacrifice on top of everything else.

In reading those Hey, Roger. It's not paying

oh, go

ahead. In in reading paying your dues. A quick example of paying your dues.

He found a case

from 1855.

Still good law today called Murray's lessee

versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company.

And it was on a debt of of of what the IRS

when they grab something,

you know, and they call it a

just strange something. There's a name for it. Sorry. Spacing on it.

And so in that court case, what the court Supreme Court 1855

said is, we have no

due process in our constitution when it comes to lack tax laws and these takings.

So we have to go back to

the tax law of the country we came from, and England. So they went out,

and there was about five English writers

that wrote on the exchequer.

That's what the treasury is called in England, the exchequer.

And,

because when they go out to collect their taxes, they'd put up a table, and they throw a big

tape checkered tablecloth over it. So the the treasury got the name of the exchequer.

And and,

so back it went back, and they tried to find

some of these books in The US. So this is back in the,

early eighties before the Internet developed,

and all they had was interlibrary

research services. So you could put in a request and all the libraries that are tied into the system in the country would respond, and you could get them to send you the book.

Well, they put these five authors up, Brian,

and there was only there was only, I think, one or two books in the whole country by any of them. And you never believe where one one of them was at the Library of Congress. You can figure that.

The other one, you particularly will not believe, was at Texas a and m.

Okay?

And so,

that was the only books they had. They got some of the others eventually,

then they went through their court case and got thrown into federal prison in different prisons, one

in Richmond, Virginia, the other up in Northern Minnesota.

Glenn,

applying for a pastoral program inside the BOP,

the fickle finger of fate

and the fat bureaucrat finger

sent Glenn to the same facility John was in

for three or four years. Oh, wow.

Wow. And so every day Yeah. John in a wheelchair, Glenn, and he said they had an exercise field out there, football field or something. And there was a big tree at one end, and he said every day, they'd go out there and spend three to four hours together in the shade under that tree discussing all this stuff, and they would write their book. They were writing a book.

It's still it's out there. It's available. It's on this issue.

The the what is it? The

the truth about

taxes in plain English. Taxation

by misrepresentation.

The truth about taxes in plain English. It's over available at the bookpatch,uh,.com.

So, anyway,

they would send me what they'd written.

Go a couple of days or whatever, and they'd send it to me in the mail.

And I,

you know, being a pretty good typer, I was typing 65 words a minute. I was I was in the ninth grade,

Picked that back up when computers came along, and I would type that all up and send it back to them.

And, at some point, Glenn scrounced a typewriter.

We didn't have to do that. But that's the basis of the book that's out there in this story.

It starts in December.

And the reason we're under this yoke,

excuse me, today

is because back then, we lied.

The only

the only jurisdiction they had available was common law courts in England.

The Englanders

were cheating the Jews and the merchants out of their profits, and their buddy would go into court and lie for them. And so the merchants stopped coming. They said, well, we can't

do business here. We'll just quit going. And so they got into a real pickle because England's got a lot of oats and wool, but they need a lot of other things. And they weren't getting the other things and trade was not commencing.

So in December,

they passed a law. It was under one of the female queens over there of England,

and it is called the Statute de Mercantoribus.

Statute

de

Mercantoribus.

It's in the twenty seventh year of her reign, whatever it was. That's how they make laws over there and identify them. And that brought the Jewish

sheatar

into England

into this capacity

when somebody when there was a dispute over trade balance.

I won't go into let's see what I'm about to run out of time. Anyway, if you go listen to those,

put, that tax information in the search engine, you go listen to the whole lecture,

And that's that change is because we lied, folks. We were going into court and lying, and the merchants were getting screwed, so they quit coming.

And so this institute

this system

was instituted.

It cleared up the problem like a snap,

but it was only in trading towns, what they call staple

towns.

And so after it worked so well for a couple hundred years

that when Henry the eighth

got into all his squabbles with the pope and everybody else and the sultan trying to get everybody to finance him and his quest for a male heir and his eight wives,

And in that period of time, he was scrapping for money. He goes, well, I'll that system works great. I'll just bring it over and incorporate it into the exchequer.

That's the system we're under today. They changed a few of the things so they could protect the guilty.

But, that's based that's the same system we're under today.

Now as to you,

being you know, all you have to do well, the we don't have time to get into it,

Brian. I'm sorry. But we will at some

future deal if you need it. Mark

is probably better on this

forms and this, that, and the other than I am because I hated taxes.

But, you know, hopefully, we'll see him tomorrow, maybe.

He's got a lot of problems. Mark,

from the old

From the old group?

No. This is Mark Mays,

and, he is a twenty plus year paralegal.

He studied under Dan Meador up there in Oklahoma.

He's,

as he said, I've wore I've won four different appellate level cases in four different states on four different issues.

So he's killed. Okay?

And he comes around and visits with us when he can. Unfortunately, he's taking care of both of his elderly parents right now. And his dad had to go in the hospital or something last week, so he's real distracted,

understandably,

but he'll be back. Hopefully, he'll be back tomorrow. Don't know. I hadn't heard from him.

But he's here on Wednesday and Saturday. Roger for the Wednesday. Yeah. Wednesdays and Saturdays is when he's scheduled. It's easier for him to be with us. He may not show, but those are the days that are kinda designated for him.

Hey, Rog. Quickly.

Yes. Or be quick. What was that book title you were talking about? The truth about taxes in plain English? It's It's called Taxation

Without

Representation,

The Truth About Taxes in Plain English. Now listen.

This is not

this is not for light and transient reading.

They're not gonna get a glass of wine in front of the fireplace. Go, I'm gonna read about the tax system

because it ain't that. Alright? Is that taxation

without representation

or

taxation

by misrepresentation?

That's probably that's probably it.

Okay.

United Slaves of America.

No. That's a different book. Boy, is that book giving me holy hell.

I mean, man, that thing.

And nostalgia's

insistence

on getting it available, and that's what screwed up my whole account at the book patch,

Bob.

Sorry to bring it up. So but I think that's available over there in the same folder

as the taxation book because they're both by John.

Hang on. They're both by John Benson. Okay?

And so we could put two books by the same author in a folder not knowing that because I never could get a hold of the damn book batch to answer a freaking question,

phone or email, we stuck it in my folder. So there's two different authors there, and it threw a hitch in the giddy up, buddy. Okay?

So anyway Hey, Brian.

Yeah. There's Bob right there.

Okay. Who had something to say, please? We got about it before the Brian, he is still there. Where's

the doctor? Is the have you heard from her, Tasha?

Have you heard from this doctor doctor lately? Wait. I say you're Settle down, Wahid. Wahid, you're insufferable, buddy.

No. I haven't. Yeah, Brian. Guess. I think she's in the same place. I'm Go ahead, Bob.

I'm trying to just make a funny little anecdote, and it's gonna fall flat now that we've had to struggle to get to it. I was just gonna bring up this is Bob from Florida back in the day when you were a regular.

One problem you're gonna have with Mark, I'm afraid he's a sooner. I don't know. This may not work. Oh, yeah. That's right. They'll probably

they'll probably lay down their arms

for for this.

Potentially.

Yeah. Oh, they're both in the SEC. Good to hear you, Brian.

You bet. Yeah. It's good to have some of you old folks hanging back around here. Okay. Well, we're about finished. I think I told y'all I got I can't hang today. I got,

I got things to do like a a house cleaning and stuff, and I don't like to be around here

when all that's going on.

So, anyway, we'll be back tomorrow on Wednesday. Mark may or may not be with us. He's a great guy, Brian. You'll like him. And,

so, otherwise, and that's a Todd and the new fellas and gals. We just love you. And as y'all, I don't wanna drown you. I don't wanna give you the for a real drink out of the fire hydrant, but

I'm gonna try and get your foundation down, like I was planning on doing today,

as quickly as possible. So we'll have some shows where we just go over these important conceptual backgrounds and things that,

well, you need to understand. If you don't understand them, you don't understand what's going on. You'll misinterpret it.

So, otherwise, in that, we're gonna do a lay laying our bodies down. Thank you so much. Oh, you're very welcome. Go ahead, Paul.

Taxation by misrepresentation is in the books folder in docs.exposetomatrix.com.

Go to the website. Click on other resources, docs.exposetomatrix.com.

Go to the books folder. It's there under t.

Uh-huh. My book's up for free on the website too, and it's the digital version, of course. We're trying to get it back where it can be ordered in hard copy.

But the beautiful thing about the digital versions is they've got search capabilities,

so it can be very handy.

Okay.

Anybody got something for me real quick? Because I've got to go.

Nobody. Yes. Alright.

Roger.

Yes, Joan.

Who

did you say in the very beginning

said that, no state

states cannot get funds or aid if they support Israel?

That was all over the news. That was all over the news yesterday and today, Joan. It's gonna be an issue. Tune in to Infowars for somebody. You'll hear it.

K. Thank you. Yep. Bye. See y'all tomorrow. They've done some real mischievous stuff with it too. Harrison was going over it this morning in the second hour. Go check that out. I'm about to wet my pants. I'll see you tomorrow.

Don't do that. It's a hell on place hell on the furniture.

Speak from experience.

Alright.

Stream is still up and, recording's still running, and the conference is still being recorded on FCC. So whatever people wanna talk about for the next hour or two, go at it.

I'm sorry about when he said,

remedies,

I thought that I even legal remedies. I was thinking

it'd be open for,

health remedies.

But I'm sorry, but I attached to penalties.

That's what that's what we talk about over here all the time is health.

Yeah. Bless your heart, Wahid.

But, anyway, speaking of knee, speaking of health, if anybody

ever had a knee where you

you your knee just kinda like

you ever heard of a trick knee?

Well, I heard of I've heard of a creaky knee like at Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella. That ugly chick tried to get her the prince, but,

her knee kept creaking every time she'd curtsy.

Is are you are you finding it difficult to curtsy, Wahid?

Yeah. Like, I I can be, I can be walking downhill, and it was just, like, give like, wanna give out.

I fell about two years ago, and it it it was an on again, off again thing. But now it's, like more on than off.

Wahid?

You need supplement.

Wahid,

I experienced

the same thing

I experienced the same thing, and I used the iTeroCare wand

on my knees, and it completely cured it.

The TerraCare one.

And then the lady was saying something also. The late the lady what did you say? You said something, ma'am.

Yeah. You need you need some vitamins and minerals and probably a ninety day,

you know, ninety

ninety supplements or whatever,

you prop you're probably deficient.

Doors of homes. Wahid.

Everything everything inside your body is made out of connective tissue.

And you have to have connective tissue support.

That's

collagen.

Yeah.

There's lots of different stuff out there.

So

you need collagen, connective tissue support. You, you'll get a text write off and a warning. There may be They need to swallow it. They give you the right

they give you the right remedy.

Use the one. I used to be a mover for twenty years.

I used to have my knees all gone.

I use the one every day.

I don't got no more problems. I walk like a baby now. Not in my fourth legs.

So six years ago, I needed two knee replacements.

Wahid.

Stop chewing gum while you're walking.

Hey, Wahid.

Wahid, this is Bruce. Get you some magnets and put them in your back pocket.

Hey. I I got a couple of questions for you. Are you eating healthy? Because I needed two two knee replacements, like, nine years ago, and I lost about a 150 pounds healthy, like, herbal holistic healing, like, through herbal teas and and, you know, half portions and exercising

even if I

am just moving my arms in circles. I mean, are are you grounding your feet? Are you,

are you cautious of what you're putting in your vessel?

No. I'm no. I I've been doing a very bad diet, but, There you go. That's your first problem right there, brother. But go ahead. The delay delay but you did say something that a woman told me yesterday. She said you need to get take your shoes and socks off and

go walk around in in in on the ground.

You know, even if you did that three times a day for ten minutes, there's just like you kinda wanna

stare at the sun. Everything happens to what they ever told you, but staring at the sun for fifteen minutes when it's rising and when it's, when it's when it's falling. But back to grounding, even hugging the tree, anybody can laugh all they want. Of course, I can't even kill a bug anymore. Something weird happened. But

hugging a tree, who cares what your neighbor thinks? Do you know your trees? They're all connected. They know what's coming before you.

This is real, like, out there. Get your feet on the ground

and your your whole body is going to be we're made of electricity.

Okay?

Yeah. So your body's gonna be Wawheed,

in in the meantime,

get yourself some shoes with leather soles.

When you wear leather like the Indians wore moccasins, they were always connected to the earth. When they start making our souls out of rubber, they they ungrounded us from the earth,

and the earth resonates at the same frequency our body's supposed to resonate at. And when we touch the the earth with our bare feet or through moccasins or leather soles,

you will reconnect to the earth and be grounded again, my friend.

But you are you do gotta avoid certain foods and, you know, wheat, barley, rye, oats, corn, soy, fried food, oil in a bottle,

you know, carbonated liquid.

You know, Dave, if I if I may for a minute, and all of these, you know, like, the Crocs that everybody wears and even older, you know, the flip flops that you wear in the summer where you're barefooted

straight on that rubber, that stuff leaches into you from the soles of your feet. Never really thought about that until not all that long ago, and it's disturbing.

You're right, Lisa.

The rubber, the plastic, the you know, we're so full of plastic. It isn't even funny. And don't ever

ever ever leave your home, your property

in flip flops because you never know what you're gonna run into when you're out out there. And this is for everybody. You know,

if you can't if your feet aren't protected and you can't run away from a situation,

you may be in big big trouble.

High yield.

Yeah. For those of us who

Wahid,

I know that Dave gave you a long list of things, but start with, cutting out all carbonated

liquids,

soda, beer. Start with that.

I I have to wear more of your using regular salt? Are you using, like, iodized salt with your food?

I I've been doing anything Right.

Please.

Alright. Nothing was driving if I've been doing Go on the iodized. Get out of information. Yeah. I have not been doing it. But I'm gonna I'm gonna do for now, I'm gonna do what I can do, which is And that circuit shut off.

Yeah. You gotta kill us. I'm gonna do the founding. I'm gonna do You're on the Internet. Right?

You just do the best you can. You know what? Can I tell you one last thing, and I'll and I'll digress?

One thing too is everything in your path don't feel the circle

yet. Let's get it all.

You don't have to worry about any of that. And if you have any argument, like, relatives,

neighbors, even if they're wrong, go and make up with them. So be a little selfish for yourself. Start loving yourself because you're gonna go home, and you don't have that to worry about anymore. Now you can focus on discerning, deep calcifying your plant,

taking care of the vessel that our most high gave us, and, and start, you know, you gotta learn you know, you gotta get free, and then we gotta get a lot of other people free. We got a lot of

work to do, soldier. Nice to meet you. Thanks a lot, everybody.

Go and hug that pit bull,

Wahid.

I wear high end work boots to protect my feet. And,

another way you can get the grounding through something like that is you can get copper rivets and a copper strip.

Put that on the inside of the boot and put the rivets through so they're contacting the ground. But you sort of need one of those old cobbler steel things to

stick the boot on to be able to hammer them, heat them down, and do a good job so that they're

not a problem.

I yield.

Hey. Dave in the thumb.

Can you hear me, Dave in the thumb?

Yeah. I Dave, go ahead.

Dave, can you send me your contact information? I need to order some Youngevity,

and I did it through Jim Ram,

but, of course, he's no longer here. So could you send me some information, please?

Hey, Gary.

Right when you called me out, I picked up my phone and I hit 6, and I answered another call.

What's up, brother?

I missed what you said.

Well, I need to order Youngevity,

but, obviously, I can't get Jim Ram anymore. So I thought I would order it through you if you would send me some contact information.

Actually, Jim's wife is,

going to, continue that.

Yeah. I did see an email from Mike Gaddy. So you can still keep ordering

the same way you always did. Did you order right from Jim by voice or did you you if you call Youngevity,

I'll give you that number

and you can continue you have an account. They don't like people switching in midstream.

So,

Jim's wife, you know, is still gonna maintain that apparently. So,

yeah. Go ahead and, call Youngevity. The number if you're ready is 800

No. Hang on.

Okay.

Okay. Go ahead.

It's 809823189,

and then press 7,

and you'll get the qualifications

department. They're the ones that help the distributors

get qualified, you know, every month. At the end of the month, they get paid. So they have more control than just an agent would.

And, all you gotta do is give them your phone number, and they'll pull up your account number.

And,

you know, they'll tell you how the best way for you to order, and you can order directly with them,

or you can order online. They'll tell you how to do that. And,

if you ever need any information, you know, questions,

you can call me.

Write down my number. I think you got it, but I'll give it again.

It's 810

pardon me?

Go ahead.

(810)

358-7722.

Dave. Got it. Yeah. Thanks.

You're welcome, Gary. Is there is there any way to to find out who who your local distributors are so that you can walk in and grab this stuff if you wanted? There is no walking in. There

people the distributors

only buy for themselves mostly unless they're, like, super high ranked and they gotta buy, you know, like some of these guys at the top, they're they're spending $30,000

a month to qualify their downline so they can get their, you know, $500,000

checks. And so they've got a lot of product on hand, but, you know, those are far and few between.

There may be one some in your area, but, you know, it what you do is you call that 800 number,

ask them who your upline is, who's their upline,

who's that upline, they'll get you in contact with them and, you know, you could take it from there and usually you want to stay in your,

your downline or your upline's downline

to do that kind of stuff to find product that people might have on hand that you can go visit and purchase.

Okay. But that number again, Dave? One more time. It's 809823189.

Thank

you. Well, I wanted to Press number 7.

Press number 7. When they when they answer and start talking, you don't gotta listen. None of that. Just press 7, and then they'll get you right over. If you call like the last few days of the month or the first couple days of the next month,

you'll be on hold for a while. Those are the busiest times distributors are trying to get qualified, so it's hard to get through.

But any other time, you know, you usually, you'd get right up.

I I wanted to comment on,

Larry's earlier comment. I think it was unfair to to compare

what you had to say, Dave, to Howard Camping or anybody

who says that he knows the day and the hour when Jesus said he didn't know the day and the hour.

Did I did I say something about that? Well, Larry was making comparison that it was fear mongering, and he compared it to preachers

who were talking about predicting the end day.

Oh, boy. Jesus said he couldn't predict the end day. He said, the angels don't know the end day. You know. Right. If you got a preacher like that, get your track shoes on. Yeah. Right.

No. If I if I was if if I scared anybody, I did not intend that. I just want people to be aware of what's going on and, you know, this is a guy,

who is in the know and he's one of he's not really one of them, but he's he

he he did that so they couldn't take over his township

and you know he is a commander of of the one of the militias in Michigan and

and, he don't stand for no crap. He takes no crap from these people. And, he knows what they're doing and what they're up to and what they're planning. Whether they're Yeah. They're talking about Dave. There's another thing. And there and there is You're talking about Dave

Stone?

Yeah. What he I try I called out to you to see if I should bring that up, but I thought people should know what Dave Stone is saying as a township supervisor in Michigan. And even after he got, you know, the feds tried to take him down as a Michigan militiaman,

and he he won his case and then became a township supervisor in one of the largest counties in Michigan, Hillsdale Township or Hillsdale County. That's where Hillsdale College is. And, they're not who you think they are. But anyway,

he's in the know. So whatever he said that would take,

and and, you know, investigate it. But anyway, go ahead. There also is that little factor that in the eighties, we were only in the billions in debt. And now what is it? 30 to 60,000,000,000,000?

Yeah. It's it's it's multiple trillions, and that's just gonna keep growing because the Federal Reserve note is a debt note. You can't pay a debt with a debt and every dollar spent into this economy

by anybody, government or people, it's it it just adds more to the debt. It'll never be paid off. It's excuse me. Can I can I, make a comment, please, on that? This is Julie.

Sure.

Yeah. So we're not 36 or 37,000,000,000,000.

We're more like $202,150,000,000,000,000

because we have unfunded liabilities. They stole all of the Medicare, the Medicaid, and the Social Security monies.

Those are called unfunded liabilities on their balance sheet. Not only that, but the Federal Reserve has never been audited and they lie. They have about four sets of books. And, to compound matters, make things even worse,

Congress passed FASAB,

space, 56, which is the Financial Accounting Standards Advisory Board, 56.

And Trump did not veto it. They don't have to tell you what they're doing anymore. They don't have to be transparent

about anything.

The neither the government, none of the government contractors, none of the NGOs, and none of the banks have to comply with any financial laws, codes, statutes,

regulations, administration,

administrative, whatever. It's just all evil. Now when Julia Julia, they got the stable coin now. So forget that that stable coin makes all that a boat issue.

Okay. Wait a minute. I was going to transition into the Stablecoin, but you didn't let me finish.

So now what they're planning on doing, which is even worse, is we're going to war. The Stablecoin is a war bond, 100%.

They're doing the exact same thing that they did after the civil war in 1863,

where they made the banks buy treasury bonds, notes, and bills. And in return, the banks could issue what what are called national bank notes.

So you and I, we're they're gonna inflate us out of this debt

by issuing stablecoins and how that will work. And you can look at the Genius Act. I think it's on page nine, specifically staked. And all stablecoins are are digital dollars.

They're going to,

these are gonna be backed by the same trash we have right now,

backed by Federal Reserve notes and backed by treasury

bills, notes, and bonds. I can't make make this up. It's in writing on the Genius Act. So the banks will be able to issue stable coins, but first they have to buy the treasury bills. So again, it's just Peter robbing Paul. It's a big Ponzi scheme, but they're gonna try to do that as opposed as opposed to just defaulting. Now

Martin Armstrong, who's my favorite man in the whole entire world as well as Jim Willie, when it comes to financial matters, I do speak to Jim on the phone.

I I pay for consultations with

him. Martin

Armstrong has AI

computer

software that he created many years ago before

the AI that we have access to now came out. His computer is 1000%

predicting war,

and,

he's tried many times to get it not to predict predict war and he can't break it. He says war is coming during war.

All debts are erased.

So,

what's happening right now is,

China's dumping all of our US treasuries.

I think they had they were the number one the number one holder of our debt.

And now I think they're number three. And what it's what's really bad is UK is number one. And Europe is in huge trouble financially. They're in worse trouble than any other country in the world because when they went to the euro, they didn't consolidate their debt. Martin Armstrong has consulted with all of the central banks worldwide over many years. I don't know about what you guys know, but he was imprisoned for seven years, and he had to plead guilty to crimes he didn't commit in order to get released.

And,

he told Helmut Kohl when he was over in Germany that if you don't consolidate your debt, this is really gonna be bad for you later on. This is gonna come back to bite you. And Helmut said he didn't care. So now what's happening is that,

they want to take down Russia and they wanna take down, of course, Iran. The reason why they wanna take down Russia is because Russia has $75,000,000,000,000

of

rare earth minerals, gold, and very valuable assets. It's one of the most richest

countries in the world. And what does Russia have? It does have a central bank. But guess what? That central bank is not owned by the globalists. It's not owned by the international bankers or controlled by the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers, and they need a regime change. And they have not been they have not been successful in doing that.

So that's that. The Iran, of course, they don't even have a central bank over there. That's why they need a regime there change there too to roll out the new world order for global communism and depopulation.

So that's why this is getting bad, but I'm not

Martin Armstrong is 1000%

I'm saying a thousand percent saying this stablecoin is a war bond. They're rinsing and repeating exactly the same thing that happened in

the civil war.

I don't know. I have faith over fear. I don't care. I'm not gonna be afraid of this at all in any way, shape or form. If it's my time to go, it's my time to go. But Martin Armstrong has said that New York,

Washington, DC, Los Angeles, and some place in Tennessee will be the four cities bombed according to his Socrates

AI software.

Not going to happen.

Well, let's see. His Socrates says it is. I'm just I I I don't I always manifest Garbage in, garbage out. You can make computers say anything just like statistics.

But

going to happen. If they want the soil, they're not gonna destroy the soil.

You got too many foreigners living here owning properties. Even though we don't want them to own the properties,

they're not gonna destroy it.

Well, they're

Hebrew.

What did she just say that Socrates

said? These cities, they're not talking about the soil.

And they don't want those sewers anyway.

But what I what I wanna get in here to say, if I may real quick, and you guys get back, hang on to your thoughts.

But the, email that,

Michael shared, Michael Gaddy on,

from Saturday from Gail,

Jim's widow, Jim Ram's widow, working on the business transfer.

If you can tell your listeners, I am trying to get the business running.

But right now all I can do is have his people

continue to order off his website.

You are diyhealth.com.

Thank you all for your support and help. I appreciate it. And more than you can imagine, please thank the listeners to

Jim would have been happy. I yield.

Thank you, Mar. Yeah. Listen, I'm just the messenger. So everybody's entitled to his or her own opinion here. I'm just reporting Socrates has never been wrong. Roger's a huge

proponent and a huge supporter of,

of, Martin Armstrong.

I am as well. So I'm just the messenger, so please don't shoot me. I I if you think it doesn't it's not gonna happen, I mean, you're entitled to that opinion. I I,

I don't know what will happen. I'm all I can do is correct. They could totally Kill her. Government

entity.

I I will buy along with that.

But the soils, the property,

the individuals,

none of that's gonna play out. Like, it's being projected

like it's gonna play out. Okay. Well, there's Yeah. There's there's Valente said when all else fail, go to war.

Well, I that's all I'm saying. I don't I predicted that that that there would be nukes used, but they can use them in a confined area and blow up these cities like they're saying. There's others saying that too. And Steve who was Chabad for many years and knows their plans. And what they're doing is moving. They, quote, unquote, echo echo echo, are moving the base of operations, and they've already moved a lot of it to China. So they're gonna do away with everything else.

That means here too, The US Court.

Thank you, Murr. Thank you, Murr. I love you. You know, I love you. Yeah. And and again, I'm not asking any of you guys to share my opinion. Actually, this is these are not my opinions. These are, the messenger. These are the reports that I follow and the researchers that I follow. So,

you know, I I just would rather failing to plan is planning to fail. I would just rather be in the know and be able to just

try to report what other people are reporting who are way, way, way smarter

and way, way, way more informed and way, way, way more educated when it comes to the inner workings of this. There's nobody who is smarter

than, Martin Armstrong.

I mean, if you wanted to attend one of his conferences in the past, it would run you a $100,000.

Every single person who attends any of these meetings are all the,

trillionaires and international bankers. He's he's worked for the central bank in China and consulted for all these people. There's a reason that he was thrown into jail for seven years because he wouldn't give up the source code for his, Socrates computer. So at the end of the day,

everybody you're you're you're allowed to have your own opinions. Like I said, I'm not asking anybody to agree with me, but I will tell you this. When it comes to the stable coin, just like,

Willet Waleed. Waleed just brought up. When it comes to the stable coin, that is evil. And and and it is in in the act backed by treasuries and Federal Reserve notes, which we all know are, you know, fiat. And we're they're gonna try to inflate us out of this, which is gonna lead to, from a financial standpoint,

very bad times because it's not 36,000,000,000,000.

It's more like 200,000,000,000,000 that we're in debt right now.

Julie, could you back up about a minute or two? I have too many tabs open. I accidentally

ended my little conference here. I had to come back.

Could you recap, the last minute or two?

Well I agree with you. Yeah. I was I was just basically saying, Murr, that,

I don't expect anybody to share my opinions. I'm not asking for that on here. I'm just a reporter. I I'm a huge deep deep researcher,

and I follow Martin Armstrong, Jim Willie,

a lot of these financial people. I mean, I've been I've been in the banking industry. I shut down banks when they were insolvent. I worked for the division of liquidation. I also worked for the office of the controller of the currency

before I went out on my own and I have an MBA in finance. So I do have a and a CPA. I do have a very strong I audited the banks. I have a very strong financial background when it comes to trying to figure out what's going on with these international bankers because like you've said a million times before, Murr, these are international bankers' wars. They're always bankers' wars. They're always doing something with respect to finances when it comes to this crap.

So,

what was I gonna say? This I I was just recapping the Genius Act. Like, if you don't believe that,

Martin Armstrong's Socrates computer is correct and there's no way we're gonna have war at all on US soil here,

I actually

encourage all of you guys to go on to Sean Ryan's

YouTube channel and watch the interview with Jane Doe and watch the interview with Sarah and then go buy the book Al Qaeda two point o, which I did and I read.

We have sleeper cells here, like, there's no tomorrow,

and they've all been trained and they're waiting to, you know, they're waiting for their orders.

And none of these sleeper cells are connected or interlinked with one another. But that being said, if you go back to the Genius Act,

they're doing the same thing that they did at the Civil War in 1863

when they needed money.

They issued that the banks were allowed to issue national bank notes. It was a national

bank note act. And they were allowed to issue those only if they bought US treasuries, bills, notes and bonds. They're doing the same thing right now in the Genius Act. The stable coin, which is the same thing as a crypto digital dollar, which is tracked, traced, controlled, surveilled,

programmed and can have an expiration date on it. The banks can issue those

and they issue those and they're backed by Federal Reserve notes and they're backed by

treasuries, otherwise known as bills, notes and bonds depending on the maturity rate of those. Does that summarize things enough? I don't know. Well, what do you think of Greg

Manarino? What do you think of Greg Manarino? What do you think of Greg Manarino? What do you have to say about all this? Well, Greg Manarino is a great guy. I mean, he's a he's he's a hedge fund trader out of New York. And he you know,

the the the biggest problem right now is our debt that we have, and it and it's all one big lie. It's not the 27,000,000,000,000

I'm done

being guilty for their sins. Alright?

The BIS, right, the Bank of International Settlements, which is ahead of all of them, has always been like this. Yep. You know, sovereign don't have to tell anybody what they're doing, and they're gonna do what they wanna do. And guess what? The whole basis for this whole system is child satanic sacrifice.

Absolutely. And can I say something? Wait. My my myrrh and genocide. Mass genocide. The childhood crap. Okay. And and genocide. Where where is mass satanic sacrifice? Go ahead, Grant.

Okay. Y'all come up for real quick.

You were talking about the place is gonna get nuked. I know why this the shitties are gonna get nuked, but Oak well, Tennessee,

you have Oak Ridge over there

and the nuke plants and freaking,

Tennessee Valley Authority

right there.

That's why Tennessee is going to get Thank you, Brent. Yeah. Thank you, Brent. And and by the way, and, yeah, and and by the way, you guys Go ahead. They don't I just want I wanna just wanna say one thing real quick. Forget the dams.

Don't forget the dams over there. Yeah. And and and all you guys need to know that Deborah Tavares what Deborah Tavares

Deborah Tavares is like a friend of mine. You can go to stopthecrime.net

and register for her emails. She's been reporting on this for over forty years. She's got all of the documents off of the UN's website,

all the all the Bank of International,

settlements websites, all of these websites that,

nobody read that stuff. She's printed them all out. She reports on this stuff all the time and she knows what's going on with we're already at war right now with the poisons that they're putting in the air and the water they're poisoning us with and the food they're poisoning us with. So, you know,

what's the the nuc? Just like you said in Tennessee, Brent, you're a 100% correct. They're again, though. They don't wanna damage the the,

farmland. And in fact, I bought this property from a Chinese couple.

Well, you know, they don't have to use a nuke and bring it to the surface. What they're potentially going to do is do a high altitude burst,

and it's gonna fry everything in this country, the electrical system and all electronics.

And in a year, ninety percent of the population will be dead.

Samuel Samuel Samuel, they just Trump just moved all of the subs and re maneuvered them all over to in Russia and Medvedev

just maneuvered all the subs over here. They've got some sort of underwater hypersonic

missile that can create a 1,000,

1,000 foot tsunami on the East Coast and the West Coast. I mean, these are just all things that these other researchers, I'm just the messenger,

are talking about on all their shows. And Yeah. There's plenty of ways to destroy the world over and over. One of our Triton missiles

submarines is capable of, I think, something like 90 some

megaton

of warheads on there. There's, like, 24 of them, and they're multi warheaded. I mean,

there's plenty to destroy the world over and over again. What we need to do is pray that these morons like Trump

stop aggravating

places

like Iran and China

and, most importantly, Russia. Yeah. We need to pray for his we need to pray for God's will to be done. But, Julie, since you know Deborah,

what was the trip her and her husband took to Russia all about?

I can't remember. I'd have to ask her that. I'd have to ask her about that again. You know? Maybe it was just too urgent. There's also this thing called the forced turning, which is due,

and it's been pretty accurate. And we're gonna be right on that around 02/1930.

Right now, a lot of countries can't go to war. They're preparing. They're gonna prepare for the next five years

to bring in, I think, a major war.

But you see, if you take down The US if you take down The US corpse, we're the ones that do the lend lease and give the weapons so we can have enemies. We're not gonna have enemies if we can't give give them munitions. Go ahead.

Yeah. Well,

Socrates predicts,

anywhere from August 18 to,

the first quarter or the beginning of the 2026.

And, you know,

very well could be wrong with what they use, but just predict something kinetic happening here in The States in some of these cities in some way, shape, or form. I mean, they did nine eleven. So, you know, they they can they they did we all know they did Oklahoma City and all of these other things they lied about. They'll they'll figure out something else to do again again against We The People.

So, I do predict and I do think something will happen. I just don't know what it is.

Let me know what you think of Los Angeles real estate with Vanguard owning 50% of the real estate market. What do you think we have two pieces of property out here? What is your take, Julia, please, on real estate in Los Angeles County?

Well, I don't have I don't hold the crystal ball.

And,

the, it it you know, that real estate prices all hinge on the interest rates because those are affect the borrowing rates for borrowers. So as interest rates go up, they funk they work just like bonds do, like the bond market. As interest rates go, the price of housing goes

down. And real estate is not global and it's not even national. It's localized. You can have real estate, you know,

foreclosures

in Northern Virginia and you can have or real estate foreclosures in Washington, DC and Northern Virginia in certain areas, you can have real estate selling for over asking value with multiple bids on it. It just depends on where you're at, what the school system is, and what you have for,

you know, the average,

salary or the average worker or the average net worth around where the real estate is loc local you know, located. You know, you go to the

Property taxes is how they'll get us out of our homes. New Jersey is sky high. It's the highest. Yeah. New Jersey is the worst. Being in a high population

density area is probably not the place to be anyways. Any major city,

it's just a mess. Gonna be a mess. Even even rural New Jersey. Okay. The property I have over there

is, because of Carter's 1977

preservation of the,

Pine Barrens. Right?

They jacked that up so high. It was kinda almost comical people come in, oh, the property, you know, cost was low. Then once you get in there, you see you gotta pay for the Pine Barrens. Okay. You can pay for this patch over here. I mean, it's such a scam. But anyway, it keeps people from moving in and building it up.

What's the main reason that you wanna get control of your land because and and live more rural

is you got an opportunity

to one, produce for yourself.

And two, if you can get it free and clear of

the them taxing you out of being able to even be there, which is coming to. They're gonna use everything they can to prop up the debt that they've run up. And if you're a citizen,

you owe that debt. It says it right in the fourteenth amendment.

Which was not totally ratified, and we're not citizens. So

Well, it's one of those reasons that we never bring up. I think it's a one of the big benefits is,

we don't owe that debt.

Hi. This is Shane. I have a question.

Confirmation, please?

Go ahead.

Yes. I I live here in the Silicon Valley. I would like to know what does,

pretty much

many people think about Elon Musk moving us away from

this,

Fiat. So I mean, it's all Fiat, but he wants to move into the digital age. He wants to,

kinda go with, China's,

forefront

of going on onto the digital age.

What do you think about that?

Listen. He was used and abused as a child and he's doing the things kind of that they want him to do. But on the other hand, he wants us to escape to Mars.

That's how badly he was beat up when he was a kid. Alright?

And this ritual of, blasphemy and,

go to the Timothy Charles Holmes and

just put his name in the search. Put Musk in there, and you'll find out.

Thanks. Any other opinions?

Well, she's talking about Timothy Timothy

Holmeseth, which I've Timothy Charles Holmeseth. I've been on his site a million times.

Well, Murrah, I sent you that video. Did you get that video of Trump with that little girl? And,

and then and then who's who the face ended up being at the very end? It it it was Pam Bondi's.

Oh, wow.

And then there's there's ideas that that might even have been, you know, something else altogether too. Not not that. Yeah. But Pam

Bondi was involved in the Timothy Charles Holmes death debacle when she was down in Florida. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, he sent her all kind of stuff.

Yeah. Like his book about Holly Cummings going back years and years, and they did nothing.

Yeah. Well, she she also she also, extradited or exported or exported or every what do you wanna call it? One of the investigators who brought her all the information back to Wisconsin, and he was thrown in jail. It wasn't it wasn't mister Fields. It was it wasn't Field McConnell. It was the other maybe it was Field McConnell. It was Field McConnell who had that radio show. He was the investigator for that radio show. Yeah. She threw him down. I was on there all the time. There is a lot of good information. They made him take all that stuff down. Yep. And there were a lot of good people in the chat and stuff too. But,

they warned him about what, he was allowing them to post and stuff. And so

that's where they got him because,

supposedly,

defamation and stuff like that. So Yeah.

Okay. Another question. What do you think about

cryptocurrencies?

Cryptocurrencies,

I have

Bitcoin, I have Ethereum, and I also have Litecoin.

Well, I I trade cryptocurrencies,

and nobody knows what's gonna happen with them. There's not that many people who are trading cryptocurrencies, but I can tell you we are going on a CBDC

system, otherwise known as the stable coin. It's just, we they can't we can't have central bank digital currencies here because of our I can't remember what amendment is, second or the fourth amendment where you can't look at people's accounts without search and seizure stuff. So instead, they're just switching this to the banks

who can and then they're making regulations for the banks to report back to them. Kind of like what they did with you know, they can't censor our first amendment right to speech. So what do they do? They just control YouTube and tell YouTube what to do, and YouTube censors it. They they control Twitter and tell Twitter what to do. They control all the NGOs.

So, I don't know what's gonna happen with cryptos.

The bad thing about cryptos is that they're digital. They can be tracked, traced, surveilled.

They can, limit what you purchase. They can limit the radius and where you can buy. They can be tracked. They can be, your wallet can be seized. Your your cold your cold wallet and your hard wallet can literally be seized, and you're gonna have to get a digital ID to get on the Internet. And if you don't get your digital ID, you're not gonna be able to trade your digital currency. So that's kind of what I feel about crypto, but I am in it right now.

Yeah. We don't have anything to do with it. Metals are still safe. Metals are still safe. They can't touch them.

Pardon me?

Metals. Metals. Gold, silver, none. Yeah. Well, if you listen to Martin Armstrong, the only reason why all these,

countries are buying buying gold right now is because they know we're going to war. And during war, all the debts are really are are all the debts are canceled.

So, you know, he gives the example of China that's dumping US treasuries. Why is China dumping treasuries? They know they're going to war. And,

if you know you're going to war, you don't wanna be holding on to any of your,

adversaries'

debt because you're not gonna get paid.

And the gold

that that China

got from here was tungsten with a little coating of gold. Yeah. You you you just got to care. Jim Willie

Jim Willie told us about the tungsten thing, and I really like Jim Willie, but the golden jackass. But what happened to him? We're not here in Fermina, and he got ripped off from Costa Rica.

Well, of course he's being targeted. They're trying to kill him. He's had, like, seven fires on his house down in Costa Rica because he's bringing out the child sex trafficking stuff, and he's bringing out the stuff on his show that the elitists are listening to, and they don't want him reporting. They're trying to shut him up and suicide him.

Aim with that perp.

I don't know if you guys heard any of those,

sky sounds that have been going on for years and probably still going on some places, but they take down the recordings. But that was a complaint I got well, not directly. I heard someone else calling in, and they were all, like, terrified.

Murrah's fear mongering because I was playing those sounds from

I think those two were from 2013 and 2015

up in BC,

British Columbia. And they were really good and clear. You could hear them, but they were, like, all over.

And,

and I remember,

when it happened at 04/04/2018,

there were those sounds

over that area of Hawaii where a month later,

May 8, I believe it was exactly. And, and,

all this seismic eruptions.

So this sound, whoever, however it's being made,

is helping

make earthquakes. And you can do an earthquake, you can do a volcano.

And that's what's happening

too. Yep. And and and, not to change subjects. I forgot to report this when I was talking about the financial stuff. I finally got a copy, of that book that,

Samuel, that you were talking about yesterday. I actually got a free copy of that,

common law abatement by Melvin Stamper. So I have it on my email. I posted my cell phone number in the chat. Anybody wants it, just text me on my cell phone with your email address and who you are, and I'll I'll put a email together with that, common law abatement, book. And I also found another

common law abatement on SEDM.

So I have both of them if you want them, but the Melton Stamper one's really good too.

I like that. Julie, do you get the copy that I sent you?

Pardon me? Did you get the copy I sent you? I found Stamper's.

Oh, you know what? I think after you found it, I had already found it before that.

Okay. So I thank you, though. I got I got it in, it's in my email, and I can,

Did did you compare them and see if they're the same length?

No. They're not the same length. That one from SEDM is way longer than the one from oh oh, if yours your one and versus the one I have, I think it is the same length, Samuel.

Okay. Yeah. It's about 50 pages as I recall. Yep. Yep. It's about 50 pages, but the one that's from SEDM

oh, that one is Did that

the Don Quixote one is about 88 pages from last week. That's the Don Quixote one that I have. Exactly. So I've got the Don Quixote, and I've got the, and the and I've got the William,

or the Melvin Stamper one for people who are interested. Like I said, give me a day or two to get it out to you because I've got, some deadlines I got a a deal with, but, I'll get it out to you because I've got them on my computer now. When I was, quickly, I just looked at I was only on a phone, so I couldn't really look real close. I had to use a magnifying glass, but I read the first few pages of the Don Quixote one, and it it sounds very similar to what Stamper's saying. And then they also dumped in there,

the,

court conversation that Randy b was having Yeah. And calling that an abatement.

Yeah. But yeah. But it was really good, though, Samuel, because he also they also before trial, they sent all these interrogatories,

and that was in the Don Quixote one. And, oh my god, those interrogatories

were, like, pages and pages long.

Yeah. I'm yeah.

I'm I'm hoping hoping hoping we might be able to generate something that's more basic and simple

and to the point and we all can sort of use, but, you know, who knows? Well, they, the what was I gonna say? You're you're correct on that. But I think that that I mean, it's kinda like those questions that are on the,

that are on the,

main page of the matrix docs where you ask the whatever 66 questions of the IRS. This person who sent those, questions out never heard back. The case got canceled.

Yeah. I know it says 66 questions. I got a copy of that too, and there's 230.

It's 27 pages long. Oh, yeah. Whatever. Yeah. I just made up a number because I didn't remember how many pages and how many questions, but same thing with the, same thing with Don

Quixote,

questions or interrogatories

that they sent to the, the court.

I I see the main the main weakness in these abatements, and I think how we might be able to shorten them up is bringing in the state citizen status

that's not in the other ones. Well, I I added that to the document I'm working on right now, with my friend who got a, red light camera ticket. The problem is is that you gotta you have to have you have to be set up for a trial. There's or court appearance. There's no way to avoid it because they're using a third party

agency

to issue these tickets. And I'm like, the third party agency, you can try to do something like notice to agent principals notice to agent, but I said, they're not gonna they're gonna throw that in the garbage can. They're gonna set you up for in the court for an appearance,

and, you're gonna have to go there. So I just said to her, I'd wait if I were you until you get your court date. You know what court you're going to and who the judge is is gonna be, and then start your paper

bond.

Stamper has

a,

a piece of paperwork

that is basically

stating that to the court that he realizes that's what they're up to, trying to take jurisdiction

basically by brute brute force.

And he's aware of it, and he's telling them he's aware of it, and he's,

going against that. And, so that's part of his stuff as well. So Yeah. I also, did add that to one of the documents I'm working on,

regarding the fact that I added the fourteenth amendment, the state, the national and I I called it what you

recommended.

I'm not a federal citizen. I'm a Floridian

or,

you know, I put just put Floridian because you never wanna use state of Florida because that's the corporation.

Yeah.

Less said, the better. I I I Dave convinced me that citizen was a bad news word.

Right. So if we can stick to our state,

you know, like me, I'll be a Californian or whatever. That's what I'm using in all all my paperwork just to

avoid the problem. And

the same thing with people. I mean, we're

we talk about people here all the time. I mean, we're either men or women. You know? Done. You know? We don't have to Agree.

So

I recently sent you my name and address on the,

re Radio Ranch link. I don't know if you got it.

I'm not on Radio Ranch link. I'm on I'm on the FCC

right now. Is that where you put it?

No. Sorry.

I'll I'll need to erase this. Thanks.

Wait. No. I don't. Yeah.

Alright. What did you put it on too? Radioranch.chatingo.com?

I just see radio,

link,

on on the

on the let's see.

I'm not sure.

Let's see here.

Yeah. Mer Murch has posted the,

Mer posted the, Don,

Quixote or Quixote, however you wanna pronounce it, the abatement book on there for all of you. So you just go to,

2radioranch.tatango.com.

She posted the link in the in the FCC chat for you to hook to to click on.

Oh.

Alright.

Thank you. I guess I need to erase my message, which I which is not going to you. Sorry.

I'm trying to see if it's on. I'm on the, 2radioranchtango.com

right now, and I'm trying to

see if you posted there right now.

This is on s s

m s,

slash

m m s,

texting.

Hey, Shane. Are you on a cell phone right now?

Yes. I am. Because I see your number.

And Alright. Good. She she probably texts that.

Okay. Hold on here. I'm here right now for the phone number. I don't I'm on FCC. Where's the,

where's the phone number, Brent?

Tap his, name,

and his number will pop up.

Okay. And I'm sorry. Yeah. You gotta click on attendees. You've got that right. I got participants. I got participants. Who do I tap on?

Shane.

Oh, okay. Sorry, Shane.

I'm looking for her too.

Okay. I just see a phone number for Shane. I don't see anything on it. Matt's there. Okay. Sometimes okay. Got it. I'll come to my email.

I'll come to my email.

I don't have your email. It's not on here. Okay.

It should be under it. Nope.

I'm on the mobile. I'm on mobile. I'm not on FCC on my laptop. It only shows your 669

number.

Alright.

Go up here. I'll go look further down. It should,

like, details. Go to details in

the higher

right corner of the,

Yeah. I don't have that I don't have that option on my mobile to do that. All I see is when I tap on your name your name and a phone number underneath it, there's no place for details.

Hold on. Let me

let me go back here and see if I can go to the

main list.

Julie, when you get a chance, can you see what the data that Don Quixote, the copyright data of it is? Yeah.

I'm here on

time. Time now is 10:52AM,

Tuesday,

08/05/2025.

Julie.

Hello?

Hey, Julie.

Hi. How are you?

I'm doing good, Julie. Julie, you got something wrong because it's it's private,

cryptocurrency.

It's called Monero.

Zero. Pirate Street. Uh-uh. Yeah. But really, honestly,

from what I've seen and heard from these people, all these And you don't need and you don't need Internet to deal with cryptocurrency.

You could do over a two

way radio.

I understand that. But the problem is is so many people are not on this right now, and crypto

scares people. And I know Mike Adams is invested in Monero

and some of these other privacy coins.

There are other people who are trying to fight this stuff. All these virtual private networks are not safe. There's a new guy that just came out from Asia, and he's got a he's he was on Mike Adams' show, and he's got a new

virtual private network called vp.net

which is verified stands for verifiedprivacy.net.

And he's saying get off all these, you know,

NordVPN,

ExpressVPN

and all these other because they have data logs and they're sharing those logs with the government that the powers that ought not be. And he's like, his his his, solution doesn't have any logs to share with anybody.

So but, yeah, Monero. But there's so few people who own Monero. That's the problem. Is is this Bory or is this Jerry?

It's me, Bory.

Yeah. Yeah. There and there's a couple of other ones that Mike Adams was, listing as well. I I just I don't know.

Yeah. There's it's a lot of way. Just people

the the zombie is not gonna do it.

It's you that has to do it. They don't gonna do nothing. They're gonna run with the flow.

Yeah. I mean, it it it was very interesting,

listening to,

Martin Armstrong because he took the words out of my mouth. He he he said he he just you could tell on his face that he just was not happy about what he was seeing and what was going on. And he said, I almost wish I were in Miami, and I were one of those people driving around in my car with a face mask on.

And he said he's ready to

be beamed up, meaning

get the hell out of here. And he said that he feels like he's gone down the rabbit hole too far. I sometimes feel like that too. But, I have all of you as my family members on here, so I know we're all in the same boat.

Yeah. Because it's not time to be telling people what to do anymore. It's time to take care of yourself and put everything in order because

what is done is done. All these people are gone already.

You know, people are growing nanotechnology

in their body, and they don't take care of themselves. They don't doing detox. They don't taking nothing for it, and they think it's all funny.

And they changing you from the inside out.

I think that before anybody invests in anything, they should,

have a year's worth of food and water.

Yeah.

Well, you need you need a lot of lead. Before you got food and water, you need lead because you got food and water. You don't got no lead, you don't got nothing.

I'd start with food and water before I I I wanna eat lead or or handed it out. I'm gonna rely a little bit more on the Lord when it comes to my protection,

but I have to have food and water.

I think he's talking about bullet bullet sandwiches.

Yeah. I know.

It's just,

man's been dismissed all his life, so it's it can't be disregarded. I mean, man's been at war forever.

Yeah. But this is worse than ever in my opinion. Of course, I wasn't around for the civil war, for World War one, or for the fake Holocaust. But

And and I take care of water.

Okay, guys.

Did we let the air out of the conversation? Are we about ready to shut this thing down?

One more question for Julie.

Julie. Julie.

Hi. Hi, Joan.

Did you say hi. Did you say

Bonnie's

daughter

was with

Trump?

Yeah. There's a there's a a huge video circulating all over where they've got,

Trump with a 14 year old. And,

and, at the end of it, they're like the person who did the video said, who is this? And, of course, it's Bondi's face that shows up, Pam Bondi.

Julie, don't forget about what year that document because that Don Quixote piece looks a little bit plagiaristic

to me. Not that it's a bad thing because

a lot of this is common knowledge, but

I'm just I haven't read the whole thing. I I won't be able to until I get it printed.

But, that that would be a good good good place to start, I think, because Stamper

published his first one in

02/2003.

02/2003,

was that one?

Stampers.

Right.

So I'm trying to figure out where this one is.

But that that

he he what's in there with,

Randy Lee's court testimonies, that actually

was in the nineties, I believe.

Early nineties.

So, maybe it's maybe it's a relatively old document. I don't know. Maybe it just be interesting to know.

That's the time I got

that's the time I got involved with, cryptocurrencies.

Okay. Nineteen nineties.

I have a question

for her.

For who?

Yeah. You.

I'm sorry. I don't really know you know your name. Julie. My name is Shane. Julie? My name is Shane.

The thing is is that I've I've written, recently a

affidavit to, president Trump

asking him to, give me back my,

cryptocurrencies.

Okay.

I'm about ready to I don't know.

I'm not sure what to do,

what's gonna happen,

or what's not gonna happen.

What do you think about that?

I have no clue how you get cryptocurrencies

back from president Trump.

What do you were they stolen?

Yes. They were, by an agency,

a a US government agency

called FinCEN.

Oh, FinCEN took it. Really? That's interesting.

FinCEN took your cryptocurrencies?

Yes. Her name was Natalie Mayflower

Edwards.

Why'd she take them?

Because they were a part of a terrorist or,

terrorist act or something like that. I don't know. But she My god. Well, your biggest mistake was,

was signing up with Vincent.

Because that's that's,

that is, voluntary.

That's been ruled unlawful.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Well, FinCEN, they told you you had to sign up, but there were a bunch of law suits filed against them, and these, companies prevailed. It's unconstitutional.

And they kept saying that you had to do it, and it kept the can get kept getting kicked down the road. So now it's voluntary.

Were you a national when you did it?

No. Unfortunately, not. That was back in the nineteen nineties.

Yeah. But,

for,

what was I gonna tell you? Brent, Roger said that even if you are a national, you're still required to sign up for it if you have a,

corporation, an s corp because that's a federal contract and,

you're still required to and even Mark told me that you're still required to comply with FinCEN.

I I thought he was talking about,

he registered some crypto or something. No. No. No. You have to you you have to have, if you have a a if you have a corporation or you have a limited liability company that you registered with your secretary of state, They wanna know who the beneficial ownership

interest is in that company. And so somehow they

I don't know how I don't know how they I don't know how they connected you as an individual

with,

did you buy the crypto through your,

your corporation, Shane?

No. Actually, I bought them, just off the streets of, Cupertino.

I mean, that's

they they don't have a right. If it's in your own name

and you filed a beneficial ownership interest in your name,

but your actual corporation, your limited liability company or your s corp or your c corp didn't buy that,

crypto, I don't think FinCEN has the lawful right to steal anything that's in that's that's in your personal name. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Alright.

You know? I would contact

FinCEN. And I I would tell them, how do you have the lawful ability to steal my crypto when it was purchased in my individual name

and not my

not my entity.

Alright.

I would start there.

Gee.

I would instead of talking to president Trump and sending your affidavit there, I'd send it to the attorney general of The United States if I were you, and I'd probably send it to your attorney general in your state as well and tell him that your

your crypto was stolen by FinCEN,

and you want it back. I mean, that's just we're in such lawlessness here. I can't even see straight anymore. It's just they just make up their own laws

and do whatever they want. I mean.

Okay. Can you please repeat who to send

the affidavit to? I'm sorry.

Well, before you send it out, I call up FinCEN.

And I'd,

I call them up and tell them how do they justify

the lawful right to take

cryptocurrency

that was purchased in your individual name

when,

FinCEN is only about filing the beneficial ownership interests that are in

companies that you own?

And that how do they have the lawful right to

steal stuff in your individual name that's

where you didn't buy it in your corporation? It doesn't seem like they would have that lawful right to me and find out what their answer is. And then I would tell them that you're gonna you're gonna I wouldn't even file it affidavit. I'd probably send a letter to the attorney general of The United States and the attorney general of your state

and tell them that, look, you know,

FinCEN stole your crypto and you purchased it in your individual name.

And, you know, FinCEN is all about beneficial ownership interest reporting in a

corporation

or a limited liability company, and you didn't buy the crypto

in your,

limited liability or through your limited liability company or through your corporation.

So you said attorney general. Who else again?

Both attorney generals of your state and the attorney general of The United States.

The fed.

Alright. Great. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if that'll work or not, but I'd start back with FinCEN and tell them they have no lawful right to take your crypto. See, that's the problem with these digital coins that are rolling out. The the head of the Bank of International Settlement,

a very weird guy, got in big trouble

four years ago, I think it was, when he

was at some conference.

And he he got in so much trouble by the globalists. He basically came out and said, right now, if you have a $100 bill in your pocket and you leave your house

and you go to wherever and you buy stuff and then you get change and come home, he specifically said, right now we have no clue where you what time you left your home, where you went with that $100 bill, what you bought with that $100 bill, and what you got for change for that $100 bill, we have no clue. He goes, but with the new digital system we're rolling out, we're gonna know exactly when you left your house, where you went, what you bought,

and, and and we're and we're gonna be able to control that is exactly what he said.

Jabba the Hutt. Yeah.

Yeah.

So do you guys know who Michael Rondavik Kedar or just Michael Kedar

I have heard of him. I've heard of him. Yeah. Well, he was the one that Trump sent a 12 man FBI team into bust

in Israel. This never been done before. Of course, they were planning it for awhile. One month to the day before,

rabbis

had Bezos

destroy

hundreds of titles of books

that were discussing the whole hoax.

Yep. I remember that in our team.

And what he was doing, and it wasn't just him. Oh, they oh, he's got a brain problem. You know, that's what they always say. Right?

But, it was his father was in on it and everything. They had the special antenna and everything. But,

he had used, Google Voice app of woman to,

extract,

from different people,

ended up being billions in crypto.

Right. Well, you know, what Besides calling besides calling in

all these, you know, big threats, like to airplanes, to the Jewish community centers and

yeah. Well, well, you know, the problem is is that, you know, people think that Bitcoin can't be seized and it can be seized. The government just seized Bitcoin from a bunch of people. And, you know, what what's happening right now with the,

with the countries that are dumping

our treasuries, and that even includes our allies like Oman, Saudi, and these Middle Eastern countries. They're

they're dumping the treasuries. And and so when they dump them, that just means they're selling them. They don't really they're not carrying them to maturity. They're just they're just selling them. Well, the Treasury is required to buy them. The Treasury has to buy them if you read prospectus

on any their bonds. If you read any prospectus on any bond, it'll tell you all sorts of things that when you invest in these bonds,

that what the parties it's like a contract, what the parties have to, adhere to. Well, we don't if they do what's called the project operation sandman,

all these countries got together, and if they all agree to sell their bonds all at the same time, we don't have the money to buy them back. We would just default.

So what they're doing right now is there's no buyers. We we if you go look at the bond auctions that are taking place, we don't have any buyers. So The

United States is paying them in Tether right now. And what is Tether backed by? Bitcoin. It's backed by the seized Bitcoin,

the seized Bitcoin wallets that the Trump administration or the, you know, whatever, the mafia mob run government stole.

And so when people say that, you know, these cryptocurrency,

you can't touch it, you can't steal it, it's on a blockchain with thousands of blocks and stuff, well, then explain to me how these Bitcoin wallets were seized and the government now now owns the Bitcoin and they're backing USD

Tether

to pay for the Treasury

bills, bonds, and notes that are being sold by our you know, because people don't wanna hold on to that right now. And then what are these

countries doing with Tether? They're selling it, and they're buying something else with it. They're either

buying another crypto coin with it, or they're buying something else, or they're they're converting it into their own country's currency. They're doing something.

Julie,

I don't know much about Bitcoin or crypto, but I heard that Tether was tethered

to the USD.

Well, it it is tethered to the USD. It is tethered. They you but it's also it's also backed up by Bitcoin. You can have more than one asset

or one asset that backs your currency. It doesn't have to be one. You could have a combination

of rare earth minerals that back the country's currency.

So,

there are USDT

coins. My understanding is that are also backed by, the Bitcoin that was seized by our government from and I don't know where. I don't know which country. If you look at the,

if you go look at treasury.gov

gov underneath there, they and and if you go look at the office of the comptroller of currency underneath there, they have the office of foreign assets control. It's o f a c. You can go on to that website and you'll see over 3,000

pages of assets that have been seized globally by our government.

Yeah. I don't think encryption is infallible, and it's gonna get worse and worse.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So there the seizure of foreign countries' assets is real because what they do when they issue sanctions, they just seize all their assets too. I mean, this is how bricks got started. Bricks got created when Blinken was in office.

What what did Blinken do that was so devastating?

It not only did he put sanctions on Russia, but he kicked them off of SWIFT. You need SWIFT. He could totally kicked them off of SWIFT. So and then he threatened China, and he told China, if you help or any country helps Russia,

thwart the sanctions that we put on them and helps them now that they've been kicked off SWIFT, we're gonna kick you off SWIFT too. So China and Russia

and India

and, you know,

China, Russia, India,

South Africa, and all these countries got together, and they created their own SWIFT system, and it's called Enbridge.

Enbridge is the is the,

parallel running system to SWIFT.

So they don't need SWIFT anymore. And what really is bad about Embridge, it doesn't accept the dollar.

So and it doesn't accept the euro. So it won't accept anything in the West

with and it doesn't accept whatever the currency is out of Israel either. So no dollar, no euro, no pound,

and and no,

and no, Israel Israeli currency. I don't know what that

yeah. I couldn't remember what it's called. Thank you. So You know, there's yeah. I was just gonna say, you know, there's gotta be a whole lot more of these Jude Choles. There was another one in 2015.

That's the one that really kinda opened it up and under Obama of Joshua Ryan Goldberg r y n e and it was the media in Australia and he had many personas

and he was doing all this stuff too and again it was always you know he's just meddling

problems. You know is what they say, so you know they've gotta have a have a lot of these going on

and but they use them to even after he was arrested

professor Tony Hall

in Canada

they

used

Facebook

supposedly from

Goldberg

that had

a Photoshop

of Ben Garrison with his arm around the neck of a Jew pop, you know, his throat popping his glasses off. Right?

Right. It looks real and everything. So that's what they used against him. Of course, he didn't put it there at all, and he was tenured.

And, they booted him out. So they'll do anything they wanna do and including

if they can when they get ready to, they'll just take over bricks.

Yeah. Yep.

Absolutely.

They're all these are all these are all banker there's all bank bankers wars. And like you said, Murph, you've said this a million times. They play they play both sides. Everything is strategic maneuvering.

It's like Battlestar Galactica,

and they are just they're one move and one move, and they've got all the counter moves figured out. They've got all the chess moves figured it out so that they come out on top at the end. And Well, they try. You know? They don't know what you don't hear about when they don't make it. It's all in God's hands. But this Richard Werner thing with the interview with Cucker,

you know, he was I was listening. It was carefully. He didn't say anything about Jews except

the two Warburg brothers. What a name Warburg. Right? Right. Were,

fencing for each side.

And, so he caught heat for that for just mentioning their names.

Yeah.

I'm going out in the sun. I'll listen to you guys.

Is it is it hot there, Myr, where you're at?

Oh, it's pretty pleasant, actually. It's only been going up in, like, eighties and then,

mid fifties at night.

It's 80 right now. Nice breezy. What state are you in again? I forgot. Oh, Wisconsin.

Okay. Driftless area, the Southwest. Yeah. Mara Mara, I sent you a piece on the Sabbath. It's awesome. You gotta check it out. Oh, I started to watch that. I have it up here. I've got a whole lineup of stuff.

Stuff. Thank you. Yeah. I'll get to it.

I just sent you a message,

if you'd answer.

Oh, okay. Let's see what you got here.

I'll just say on air. I don't know. I was No. No. No. No. No. Type it.

No. You want me to type it, you say?

Yeah.

Okay. I okay. Okay. Not in the open.

I need to talk to Victor.

Victor.

Where are you, Victor? Star six. Unmute yourself.

Or tap on your red microphone.

Make it white. Go ahead, Paul.

Alright.

Sorry. The links I put in there, they don't work because it just gives the parentdrive.google.com

and it goes to the whatever drive you're logged into at the time. So just go to docs that exposethematrix.com

and you go to the search box at the top. You put in 100,

and then Gotcha.

Hit enter,

and then click on the title only button, and it will only return documents that have 100 in the title.

So Oh, so it's not the matrix docs. It's okay. You know, it's docs.exposetomatrix.com.

You go on the matrix docs. And under other resources,

that little group of links there underneath the,

underneath the,

the FCC links and,

the podcast links.

It's right above the pictures of books, I think.

So let me see here. So I'm on your docs.

Okay.

I'm typing in 100.

I no. Just type in hundred.

100. Type in 100,

and then hit enter. Got it. And it's gonna show you a bunch of them because it's showing you every document that not only has 100 in the title, but also 100 in the body.

So you just click on the title only button,

and then that will show you Instead of type. Oh, yeah. Title

only. Okay.

And then that will show you eight documents

that will show you eight documents that have the word 100 in the title.

Nope. I only see three things. Three,

I only saw three results.

Oh, okay. So abatement

Alright. Well, I I just searched for abatement. Let me search for 100

h

u

n

d While you're doing that, I'd like to ask Victor. I'm not always here. Could you tell me who you are?

It's Victor from Washington State, a second year student.

Oh, glad to hear you.

There's four of them.

Yeah. Okay. There's four hits on 100. There was eight on abatement.

Okay. So you wanna search in abatement instead? Yeah. You wanna search for 100,

and search for abatement

because I don't think the, the abatement documents have the word 100 in the title.

Hey. Hey, Paul. Do you have the, Don

EOD abatement book? Yeah.

Yeah. It's up there. I don't see it. Okay. Yeah. I I I Samuel, I don't know what date that's written in the front. It doesn't have anything about the date, but it talks about the court cases in the nineteen nineties, so

I would surmise it was written sometime in the early two thousands.

Well,

I tried,

I'm just I'm just curious about it. So I I opened up refresh

when your fresh docs,

docs.explores

the matrix,

and it has search and drive at the top. So one more time. I'll try it one more time.

Is this, Victor or Shane?

It's Victor. Victor, you Victor, you have my cell phone number. Just text me your email address, and I'll send you the documents. I have them on my computer.

Okay. Will do. Appreciate it. He's

he's gonna need to know how to do this to look for other things,

and so does everybody else that's in here.

So,

if there's gonna be a single point of failure, it's gonna be me damn no. No. I'm sorry.

Anyways, yeah, just go to docstatexposethematrix.com

and up in the search drive,

put in 100, h u n d r e d,

and then just hit enter,

and it'll show you a bunch of documents

because

it's showing you not only the documents that have 100 in the title,

but also 100 in the body.

It's matching not only the title but the word.

Okay. That that's because you put in title only.

Yeah. That's because you you hit the title only button.

Nope. Actually, I just did a fresh open copy of Docs that explores the matrix and searched for 100 without touching anything else, and it came up with three

results.

Okay. Well, that's fine. I opened a new page.

Yeah. Title only, the 100 in the 100 roles,

the book of the hundreds, and 500 points of good husbandry.

Right? Yeah. When I do title only, nothing shows up.

What?

So should it, like, should I select a type folder? Or

no. Just un uncheck the title only

and tell me what three hits you you got.

Okay. Uncheck the title only. It's I didn't have it checked in the first place, but I'll

type in 101 more time.

And then we need three results.

Yep. Okay. Read them to you. Results.

Form, Robert Tasuth, Roger Sales PDF,

60124

chat. United Slaves of America, John Benson, Miss Glennian birth. That's it.

What?

You and you're spelling 100

I'm

on docs.exposethematrix.com

as well, and I'm doing the same thing you're telling people to do, and I see absolutely no search here. I see,

three little dots,

and that's Are you on your phone?

Nope. I'm on my computer. I'm on my laptop.

What browser are you using to go there?

Yandex.

Okay.

I can switch to do I was on Firefox.

I can switch to Microsoft Edge and try.

Yeah. Try Edge.

Alright.

I'm using on Yandex, not Edge. Yandex.

Oh, I don't have Yandex.

Try Edge.

Is that what you said, Julie? Is that who was talking?

Yes. It's me, Julie, and I used, I used Brave browser, and I used,

Yandex, and there's no search bar at the top.

Yeah. Microsoft

Edge is taking forever to load for some reason. So

I mean, I see a bunch of folders, but do I have to click on a folder before I search?

No?

No. It should be right up on the top in the middle of the page.

Okay. It's not. So instead, what I did was I hit control f for control find, and now I'm gonna put hundreds in here. No. No. That's only gonna search that loaded page.

It's not gonna search the live.

You're right. I did get I did find the book of the hundreds, though.

How do I get the search on this? It should have a search bar up here at the top.

Okay.

I'm loading the matrix doc so that I can

click on

expose the

DocsDOT Explorer Matrix,

and that is right there.

And it's just loading it right now,

and there's no search bar at the top

for some reason.

Okay. I'm on, I'm on the same thing you are. I'm on Explorer right now, and I just put it in, and there's no search bar at the top. I'm confirming what he said, Paul.

So the little

Google Apps is available.

There's

yeah.

I've I've used Brave Yandex

and Explorer to try to search this now. I'm gonna see if I can go on my phone and use Chrome and see what happens if a search bar pops up here.

Yeah. Maybe,

it's maybe it's locked or something about the security.

Try dogpile.

No. Dogpile is not gonna index my web page.

Okay. I don't know. I just figured out something. You might need to sign in in order to get that search bar to Google.

That sounds about right.

Alright.

Okay. I'm signed in.

Okay. Sign in.

And there's the search bar right there at the top? Yep. You need to you need you need to be signed in to search.

So you type in hundred or hundreds.

100.

Okay. It's typed.

It's entered. No results.

I will, open it up one more time.

Close the box that explodes the matrix.

Type in Hun Dynasty.

No.

Now I'm on Paul's website.

100.

Search results. No matching results.

I don't know what's up with that either.

No big deal. Okay. I I figured it out, you guys. You gotta be signed in. If you get if you just go to docs.exposethematrix.com,

it'll bring up a bunch of files you're not gonna be able to search. You'll only be able to search on that page. You gotta sign in with a Google email, and then it'll bring everything up in the search button at the top. I just put 100 on it and pulled up five things. I pulled up the

declaration,

notified. I I I typed I got the global currency reset lead tracker.

Oh, you know what? Nothing. You know what? This is weird. This is, giving me my files and not the files that,

that

this is the problem. It's giving me my files. It's not giving me,

Paul's files. It's not giving me Paul's files. It's only giving me mine.

So what's another option? So what folder is it in on your docs on exposethematrix,

Paul? Did you put in docs.exposethematrix.com,

or did you just go to drive.google.com?

No. I did docs.exposedmatrix.com

on four different browsers, and there are no,

so there's no search bar at the top.

I'm typing it in manually now.

As it did in the middle. But I've been here before, so I don't know if that's gonna benefit these little memory things that it has it in its memory.

But I got but I did get some weird things when I put hundreds, and I put

the number 100

apostrophe

s.

But all almost all the files that are coming up because it has owner right after the name, and they're Paul Beaners.

Mhmm.

There's a couple of Bachmans.

I got a couple of Bachmans in there.

When I hit the enter button, it

goes away for navigates away from Paul's drive for some reason.

And I search and I hit enter.

Anyway,

I'm gonna let you guys know. System. I just tried to even do this on the,

just go to,

the matrixdoc,

.com. And I clicked on docs. Go to matrix.com,

and it brought up exactly what we go to directly. And it's not

there's nothing there's no search bar there, Paul.

It's because you had to sign in to Google.

No. Even if you sign in to Google, it's not bring it's bringing up only my Google Docs. It's not bringing up the Google Docs that, Paul has.

I knew you shouldn't let AI in there.

I didn't. So

so my question to Paul is, what browser are you using on your computer? Maybe I just need to download that browser.

Okay. When you go to the search bar,

and

it says,

docs.

It says you're in the folder docs.

I'm on

the matrixdoc.com.

Okay. So click on docs.exposetomatrix.com,

and then don't click on anything else until I tell you.

Okay. I didn't click on there.

Okay.

Now go to this

go to the search bar and type in 100.

There's no search bar.

I did, and I hit enter.

Don't hit enter. Results. Don't hit enter. Oh. Don't hit enter. I told you. Go to the search bar and do not type anything until I tell you.

It's done.

Hunter is back up here again without it entered. Okay. Now you go over to the far right.

Okay. You click on

the magnifying

glass.

Don't click enter.

Click on the magnifying glass to the left.

I don't have one on the left. Okay. You have one on the right? First. Now I've got one on the left.

Oh, I have one. I got one on I got one. Left. I got one.

Okay. Good. Then you I got one. Type in a 100, and then you you click the magnifying glass.

I did, and then the same thing happened. No matching results.

And

There's no way to gated away from box on here.

That's freaking navigated

away from your docs. So

no big deal. I'll let you guys deal with it. Where is it at in your docs? So if you didn't wanna search for it, what folder is it in?

Well, you see, that's the problem.

I,

I am having trouble with my freaking paste buffer, my copy buffer,

giving me

access to shit.

So

Okay.

Well, I'll let you guys go for now. Okay?

I, I will say that the Michigan Secretary of State deals with way more than Rogers said. It handles all driver's licenses,

registrations,

legal matters. So I would definitely notice the Secretary of State of your state also.

And I yield.

Alright? Okay. Goodbye, everybody.

Alright. Sayonara.

Crap.

Why was Roger calling for me at about 08:30 this morning?

He wanted your Roger wasn't.

Hey.

Hey. That was me, Brent. Oh. With with Roger, he he called out to you after I did because I wanted

to check with you about Dave Sloan.

I mean, Dave Stone,

you know, if you thought I should share that,

I should share that.

So so, Paul, I wanna tell you something. I'm sorry. I just found something.

It specifically says that the search button on drive.google.com

is located at the top of the page under the navigation bar when you are signed

in to your Google account.

If you are not signed in, you will not see the search bar or the shared with me view

as these features require often

authentication. Instead, you will just be presented with a login screen where you can sign in to access your drive and search functionality

on documents on your drive. But when it comes to the other drive, you actually have to share that with all of us.

It's tracking and tracing.

That's why I use DuckDuckGo.

May I? It never used to ask for a Google login,

but it did for me today as well.

Yeah. It's part of you know, it's they're locking shit down.

Well, then that means I don't have to spend $12. You, it says right here that,

it says,

if the group Google Drive,

if you're trying to access Google Docs and you're not signed in,

you will not be able to search.

The file needs to be shared.

It's not Google Docs. It's Google Drive.

Well, I know. I'm saying Google Drive. I actually meant to say Google Drive and not Google Docs. So it says Google Drive on here. And it says

to

Disable

privacy

Badger extension.

Anything I put on there

on your system.

It says right here that

some users may use proxy settings to protect their privacy online on the computer. Although it is quite useful when you need to hide your identity, it can also interfere with Google Drive. So if you need to disable your proxy completely

to let Google Drive back to you. So you need to disable your proxy completely to let Google Drive back to normal. Press Windows key plus I to open the settings app. Once the setting apps app

opens, navigate to network and Internet.

Select proxy,

and on the left menu, in the right pane, disable all options.

Hello?

Hi.

Yeah. Okay. I

I copy the drive.google.com

drive folders.

I copy it, and I put it in my browser.

Alright? And once I put in the browser,

I type

in the search

100

in letter.

Yeah. And I have

a bunch of thing about 100. Men of other animals,

eight farm, five, o five, bato, passport,

25, a lot of information about 100,

include the book of

100. So

if you follow that, maybe you would have

if the other follow that, they could have the list also.

Doc

dash Google Drive.

It is just in the lake that

the two

2PM, 02:29PM

right here.

It came and actually when I

I copied, and then I went to Google

Drive.

There is very simple

on my side anyway.

Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

Oh, there's

I'm gonna have to sort by last modified.

Dave.

Okay. And not Dave in the thumb. Dave from national

status.

Yep. I'm here.

You just put that link.

Yeah. And I was looking at it, and it looks good except for in your little diagram.

That you have the ring

on national of The United States. You also have in parenthesis

a, and that should be b.

Oh, let me look. Hold on.

You have it right down underneath as b, but where it's bigger, you have the a.

Right. And that's, yeah, that's supposed to be there, a and b.

Because b to b because b is not,

is not inherently a national until you naturalize. So I separated it and kept it in there under

overall number 22 definition is broken into two parts.

That make sense?

No.

Because when I look at national of The United States

inside the ring,

eight US code 11 o one a

Right. 22

a.

Right. Shouldn't that be b?

No. There's

Oh, okay. Okay.

Yeah. That's the one underneath.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, yeah, the a the a is a header for all of the definitions, and then

the capitalized a and b are the are number 22. It's divided into two separate sub definitions.

Okay. Well, to me, that confused me when I seen the 22, but then still the a after it. Yep. I'm just saying it it it it confused me a little bit. It's the whole dang thing is confusing, isn't it? As as you heard in my voice.

Well, thank you, though. I appreciate,

letting me know that. And,

Yeah. I'm just trying to put some stuff out there that

tries to help people simplify it the best you can.

It's hard to hard to make something simple that's inherently not simple. Right?

It's a very

tricky, sticky wicket because it's not simple

until you get it, until you see.

And then, like, god, why did it take so long? Yeah. Yeah. Because we're so indoctrinated.

It's the weirdest thing.

It it really is. And, you know,

and I'm sure you have, but I run into people

all the time that it just you can say it a million different ways. It doesn't click

click with them.

And I think I think it's because of the indoctrination. But

I think,

some people,

not to be mean, are just lazy. They don't wanna do they don't wanna put They're not intrigued by, and they they kinda don't believe that they're deceived to the depth that they are.

Yeah.

And so

alls I've ever been able to figure out is they're not

attracted to searching for that truth.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. They live they live

they live the lie, so to speak,

and,

and they're happy. So Well, we lived the lie too. But for some reason,

be it like like Roger says, a lot of us got something happened.

So we got

burned a little bit in one way or another.

You know, I,

you know, I was in the military

up until '22,

2022,

And I was overseas at all. And,

I don't know. After I I retired, I was I you know, the more you think about things and

you'd find out the reason why for

certain decisions.

And I think that was my kind of

what what's Roger call it? Being gored?

What's he say?

To be gored by a bull or something? Your ox

was gored.

Your ox was gored.

And I think for me, it was kinda like my ox was gored when I start thinking about

the sacrifices.

And, I mean,

the intent, of course,

in my mind and my wife and I both, you know, was

patriotic, but then you think about what's behind it, and it kinda pissed me off.

And,

I know I thought Yeah.

Go ahead. Got used like toilet paper. Yep. Yep.

That's right. And,

you can't you can't you can't necessarily take it back, and

you have to

you have to try and look on the good side. That's what I try and do. And,

you know, it led me to this. So that's that's the good side of it. Yep. It led you down a path of seeking the truth and things, and that's

the path we're supposed to be on in life. Well,

they kinda let you into their little club, not into their inner circle, but way outer circle.

You got some good training, exposure to stuff that

no no one normally would be exposed to

and use that for your purposes

and our gain.

I don't I don't That's that's the way I look at it.

Yeah. Thank you. I yeah.

Yeah. Definitely,

you know, your life experiences, you know,

you know, they play a role in in things, obviously.

But, so I hope

And, you know, my my wife, she's she's the brainiac, really, in my opinion, behind this. We put our heads together and we make one brain, but she's probably three quarters of the brain. Let me put it that way. So,

but she's the one who,

you know, creates the website. We've got some she's got some really cool stuff coming

soon, and

I think it's it's little tools that's gonna help

all of us,

teach up other folks, help them understand the national status.

And we're trying to create all these little tools,

that try and simplify it. Again, you know, it's tough to make something that's not simple simple, but

I'm really visual.

And, so she's got some things in the works that are gonna be visual.

And soon as they're done, they're gonna be done here in the next couple days, and I'm gonna share them with y'all.

It's gonna be pretty cool, I think, in my opinion, but I'll let y'all decide for yourself.

Hey, Dave?

Yeah.

Yeah. I sent you an email.

I saw that, and I was

I was gonna jump on that shortly. Thank you. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure you got it. Yep. Yep. Thank you. You're welcome.

Anyway, I'm gonna go on mute, guys.

See you.

From the websites I've seen you've created,

you guys have cool stuff.

I'll tell you. She,

I'm her biggest fan. And,

I'm a, you

know, in addition to my medical background,

I'm a Microsoft engineer, but it's from, like, 2000

is when I and it's more about networking. Right?

She's the one with the design, the eye for design.

And,

it's, it's really a talent to be able to have an eye, like an artistic eye for design and also have the wherewithal to

understand the the technologies

piece behind it. And,

so, yeah, I'm her biggest fan. So

give her credit on that all that for sure.

Anyway,

log on.

God gives us plenty of examples of how wonderful man's

rules are.

Maybe not so much their laws, but

Laws rule the whole thing. I mean, it's just,

it's a shame how we started out as a country and our intent and where we are now.

We don't even know right right from wrong anymore.

So Hi, Dave.

Hello, Dave.

Hello.

Yeah. This is Victor.

I'm using your website. I used it for my original affidavit also.

Oh, good.

And, I've been in contact with you about your business cards and stuff recently.

Oh, yeah. Good. Good. Yep.

And What's good? Like,

one thing I noticed is that QR code that you have on those business card hands out handouts is pretty small, which is just something I thought I'd bring up. Yeah. Yeah.

But but I also asked

if you guys would put a PDF image of just one card so you could take that card and put it into an avery template

and modify it also. It's

just a suggestion.

Yeah. Yeah. Good good idea.

Yep. Another thing was

one thing I found since I've been listening for two and a half years or plus is

trying to find other people's sample

notice letters is almost impossible.

Like, an actual example of the finished product,

which is just something I I thought about.

I'm working on mine right now, in fact,

and listening to today's show.

The governor definitely probably a good idea.

And,

doing that,

I mean, you go to the post office doing, what is it called

that Paul was ringing up?

Certificate of mailing. That's something.

I'm also planning on using the firm book for the first time in my life for all these massive mailings.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's about all I had for now. That that one video that you had, though, do you know who that guy was speaking?

No. You know, I

I've been trying to figure that out, who he is.

I'm gonna dig in the sheriff.

What's that? Sheriff Matt. It's not sheriff Matt, is it?

You know, I I just don't know, and I wanna find out. He's a professor somewhere.

And,

when I saw the video, I thought, wow. Are we doing a wood jar deposit? I'm doing it as well. Okay. Perfect. I'm

posting it on the

Yeah. It'd be helpful information so people could find out who he is and find out more from him. Maybe even get to him. Get my permission to him. For sure. One one thing that I found that's always difficult is, like, YouTube

people that go out on the street and do the auditing of post office and stuff and have police come up to them and

exercise their first amendment rights and all that.

Just try trying to find ways of getting this information to all those auditors that are out there.

They have no clue of actually not having their constitutional rights. You know what I mean?

In my mind, I think the police are just letting them get away with it because

for whatever reason. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

You know, and and,

we can get the documents. I tend to

I include when I talk to folks or email folks. I include

the,

website,

the domain name,

And, hopefully, we can go there and lead them to one. Great. But,

yeah, that's what's something I use all the time.

Yeah. Like, I watched the video of Alex Stein yesterday being in the Texas legislature

testifying about transgender men in the locker room and stuff. If you could find ways of getting the information to people like that or Mark Dice

or all these other people that are trying

that just don't have the full picture. It's, you know,

something I always thought about.

My,

my last,

globalization

was here in The United States, and,

I'll just tell a quick story to the group. But,

the,

the base I was on, the the hospital,

got a new commander

and a colonel, and

I was a major. I and I was in charge of

the the donor center, the blood donor center. And,

I met him and I, you know, sometimes you, like, be careful what you you, offer. Right? Because I said anything you need, let me know.

Well and I was sincere about it. Well, he took me up on it, and he made me an investigating officer for

a problem soldier.

And, again, I'm trying to make a long story short, but

he was a real problem. I was doing all kinds of inappropriate stuff, and

I had to document and talk to people and all. And it took about two months or so. And I put together

the report,

and I turned it into JAG. And they called me over, and they said, well, everything's looking good except you gotta you gotta change something here. And I said, what?

And I was already aware of what he,

something with this soldier. And,

anyway, he said,

in it was, like, midway between the time frame

of the report. He said, you need to change this,

how you reference the soldier from he to a she.

And I said, oh, okay.

He was going through a transmission.

And in the in the,

what they call DEERS is where they document

all your demographics is the date at which it took effect. So

in this report, halfway through, you change the terminology when you're talking about incidents from he to she. Ain't that ridiculous?

Anyway

yeah.

That was another Then if I have to listen to that story on the recording because I'm at the bank and I had to mute.

Oh, yeah. No worries. Yeah. That was part of my ox getting gored, by the way. So

I was wondering if there's PDFs anywhere of,

the so called missus Robinson letters that come from the IRS and the state department.

Yeah. I've got,

I've got two versions of it.

The original one and then the,

the newer one that that came out. And

do you go to the chat in free conference call?

No. I don't.

Now I can,

what would be the best way to get them get them over to?

I mean, I can tell you where they are on the website.

Okay. I'll say I'll try that. I should be on your website, and I'm not. So Okay. That'd be a good introduction for me. Okay.

And it's if you get on there now, I can walk you through it. It's pretty straightforward.

Okay.

I'll write it down right now, and then I'll I'll I'll have to do it later. Okay. No worries.

You know, nationalstatus.com

or info, either one.

And at the very top of the,

site, the navigation, it's the remedy.

You click you click on remedy, the remedy.

K. And you'll see a drop down,

and there'll be a number of choices, affidavit notices, passport, abatement, number of them. You want to click on passports.

K. And you scroll down. There's a gray

drop down bar called the the let's see. Where is it?

The miss Robinson letter.

You click on that gray bar, it opens up, and you'll see

two downloadable,

documents,

and those are the two versions of the miss Robinson letter.

Okay.

Yeah.

Because I'm interested in that phrase by operational law.

Yeah. Yeah. I think I think that's a catch 22.

Yeah. They've they've got there's something behind that for sure.

Yeah. So

Thanks.

You're welcome.

Alright, John. Yield.

So, Dave, you said that you had investigated,

one of your fellow military persons,

and it took a long time. But the reason why your ox was gored was wet again?

Yeah.

I was

I was investigating a soldier person.

He was causing a lot of problems. Anyway,

he was going through a transition

male to female.

After

the report, I had to change the terminology from huge version.

And I just and I was just

I I was just so overwhelmed.

I don't blame you.

Yep.

So,

anyway, I think a lot of that's changed.

One thing I I heard from

one of the people on today's show, I can't remember who,

he was saying that he sent his affidavit for the IRS to Philadelphia.

And I believe that your sample affidavit is to Washington DC, if I'm not mistaken. Is that correct?

Yeah.

Let me double check.

I guess I should have looked at it first.

Bottom bottom.

Where do I

so I have it

I have it,

addressed the the original affidavit is addressed to

let me see what address I had it here.

Yeah. Washington DC. 2201

C Street Northwest,

Washington, DC.

Is that for the IRS or the Secretary of State? That's the Secretary of State. That's this is the original

initial,

affidavit to the Secretary of State. But you're talking about IRS?

That's right. Correct. IRS.

Okay. Hold on.

I need to go to notices.

Sorry.

And we we have a,

a more specific notice

for the IRS

because

hold on. Where is that?

The notice.

Okay.

Notice the IRS. Okay.

Great.

Yeah. So the the in the notices, of course, one of the agencies is the IRS.

It's a little different,

verbiage,

and it,

I have it

in Toronto. It's one one one one, four ones,

Constitution Avenue Northwest, Washington, DC

two zero two two four.

Yeah. I'm just wondering why the other individual is sending his to Philadelphia. I've heard other people say that, especially Roger saying that the head the guy that handles noncitizen nationals is in Philadelphia. So I'm just curious.

Yeah.

So,

yeah. I think, if I remember correctly,

I used that address later on in the process,

you know, once I I went to the IRS steps.

In other words, when I was working with my employer in the IRS,

to

Yeah.

Okay.

So

something to think about. I wanna make sure I send it to the right person. That's all.

Oh, I think

I still got you guys. Right?

Yeah. I was hearing static here now.

Anybody there?

No.

Hello, Brent.

Long time.

Hey, Victor. It's David. Sorry. I got bumped off.

I didn't even know what I was talking away.

Sorry about that.

Yeah. I don't know how much I I don't know how much I said, but I was you had asked about the address

for the IRS notice.

Yep.

And, my original notice,

letter

went to the Washington address of the IRS. But when I when I got to the IRS section or process, meaning working with my employer

and the IRS

to stop withholding and,

getting my withholding back,

I think I switched over at that point to that Philadelphia address.

Okay.

I'm just wondering if on your document builder and your sample affidavits,

or you should cover letters. Maybe we should have the proper Philadelphia address instead of the Washington DC address. I'm not sure. I was checking.

Yeah. That, you know,

that might be a good a good thing.

Yeah. We tweak things as we go here, but that's a that's really a good thought.

I think at the time,

I think just to,

now I think about it. I think

originally when I we did the notices,

we hadn't even done anything with the IRS yet per se other than, you know, the part of our notice

notices.

So that may be why. In fact, I don't think we even knew there was a specific office at that time for

nonresident

aliens.

But, yeah, that's a good that's a good thought.

Yeah.

What was I gonna say?

So that's one thing I wanted to bring up to you for sure, and then an image of your business card so we could just put it on our own templates.

And,

I've never done your document builder before I started building it up and then closed it, But it's going to be interesting

to see how that goes.

Yeah. It's,

it's a little tricky, but it's it can be pretty handy.

Once you do it once, in other words, you figure out,

if you fill it out okay.

You can fill it out with all the,

final information if you'd like. If you if you you're not comfortable with that, that's fine.

You can put fake. You can just leave it blank. And then when it emails to you, at that point you need to edit it to your

specifications,

and there's a link to a tool

that'll allow you to do that. So

Yeah, I used that link for I Love PDF

actually,

yesterday morning.

And I wanna end this decide, oh, I'm just gonna buy the premium

edition,

the one year subscription

because I know I'm gonna have a whole lot of PDFs to mess with. Yeah. It's free, though.

That that tool is is free. But

So when I started using it, I started trying to edit. I just picked a random PDF document.

Well, actually, it was your sample it was your sample affidavit, actually, for the IRS.

And I started highlighting things and looking through all the tools, and I couldn't find one tool for copying and pasting

text or cutting and pasting text

or how to modify text.

So I emailed them and asked them what the problem was. And if not, if they don't have that tool, then they'll refund the money to me. I didn't wanna pay for an Adobe subscription. You know what I'm saying?

Right.

Another way that I can handle stuff like that is just putting the document on a web browser like Microsoft Edge, and you can edit things and build and check boxes also just using a browser.

But, anyway, I thought I'd bring that up.

Thanks, Victor. I'm I'm gonna have to drop off, guys. I'll talk to you. Alright. Thank you, Dave. Okay. Bye.

Don't forget. You can print by hand.

That works too.

I can't write small, though. I suck.

Especially when it comes to the firm book, all those tiny little lines. I don't know. I've got an electric typewriter I'm planning on using for that thing.

A pretty sloppy writer. I tried my best, but writing small is not my

not my strong speech.

Thank you, guys. You have a great day. I'm gonna go to work.

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