In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of personal freedom and the legal frameworks that define citizenship in the United States. Our host, Roger Sayles, discusses the importance of understanding one's political status and the implications of being classified as a citizen versus a national. The conversation touches on the historical context of these classifications, referencing key legal documents and historical figures who have influenced the current legal landscape. Roger emphasizes the significance of filing affidavits to assert one's status as a national and not a citizen, highlighting the potential legal and financial benefits of doing so.
Additionally, the episode explores the technical aspects of managing personal finances in relation to government systems, such as the IRS and the use of 1099 forms. The discussion includes insights into the potential for individuals to reclaim financial autonomy by understanding and utilizing the legal tools available to them. The conversation is enriched by contributions from listeners and experts who share their experiences and knowledge on navigating these complex legal waters. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to educate themselves and take steps towards asserting their legal status and financial independence.
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But you just don't know what to do, do you, Alvin? We do. We got your answer right here. Too bad you're not with us. You could help us promote it a little bit with that wonderful guitar playing of yours. Anyway, we're gonna take another stab at it today, move the, the stone along the path a little bit further, hopefully. It's the August 2 into the new month here as we roll into the fall. And, Roger Sales, your host at the Radio Ranch. I don't believe we have too many people generally with us and supporting us on Saturdays. But why don't you go ahead and, eliminate those who are and do, Paul, if you would?
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Will do. No. Today, it's very light. Just eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and Google Voice Radio Network, My Pet Project. Our archives are on Pod Home. We've got two channels up there. The links to those are on the matrixdocs.com. That's our, primary website. We also have a free conference call, so you can join us live on the ship. We only have, 50 some people. 50
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something in here joining us. You were clipping pretty good right there, Paul, for a second.
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Really? Okay.
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And I think you're better now. It was just for intermittent little thingy.
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Really weird. Okay. I was working with Paul English this morning on some of his settings. He he's trying to get, the VPS that runs Radio Soapbox so he can use some of the system interlinks like I use here because I use three systems to do the show. Okay. And he's trying to implement a similar thing. So Alright. He can either run the station automated on over the VPS, or he can jump in, break in, and do a live show right from his house and have it all be seamless. So,
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am I still solid or or was I breaking up? You're solid. It was just that one little intermittent couple of clips there and then straighten right back out.
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Okay. Alright. Because I had made a couple of changes to my system here too. I wanted to make sure I didn't break anything.
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Well, I hope you didn't. Now we show you hear you loud and clear. No clipping now.
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Okay.
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I guess, we got a little taste of mister Paul yesterday in the after show.
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Yeah. Yeah. I kinda I I dialed him up on Teams. I dialed him up on Teams, and I snuck him into the show.
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Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. I guess I'll have to show have you show me how to use that one of these days here soon. So, anyway, well, it's always glad to have Paul drop by. And and for the new folks, as I said yesterday, he's the guy that he's got a very interesting story. He was fighting a foreclosure, and, he kept running up against chicken slingers. And so, he, and he got very interested in that, learned a bit about it, and got how how can we do something mental mentality and, went out for about a year, year and a half, I think he told me. He just looked at software, freeware, and and went in and read manuals on how to connect these things.
And there when I first started with Paul here, Paul Bieners changed it a bit. But when I was doing this with him initially, it it cost us I think it cost us $20 a month to put on a full time radio station worldwide. I mean, it's like, you you used to have to pay a half a million dollars for a little old short stick on the high end of the dial that was a day timer, you know, or more. And, so it was that's why I always compliment him on being the person that brought this kind of format to us. Okay? So we can do this without selling your ears. I don't wanna bring you and attract you in like a flytrap and then sell your ears. Now some of those products may be good. They may be very beneficial.
But I just don't wanna go through that and accounting and have you paid and and interrupting anything we're into that's complex here with, you know, a minute or two of spots. And, anyway, it's just an ideal thing for me. In fact, Paul tries to come back occasionally. I think he's learned it's not too productive. Coming back to me and go play play some music. You need a break. This and the other I just I just don't I don't think like that here with us. And, so might not be occasional bad to go, you know, utilize the the little boy and girls room or something. But, Right. Anyway, I just like these, flowing conversations, and here, fortunately, we've got some new folks.
I'm assuming Todd keeps telling me I'll be here every day, so I'm assuming he's here today.
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We've But,
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it's If I can explain the difference, you know, between what Paul set up and what we've got going now. Paul had, the mixing software on your portable. You were handling the stream and you were playing the bumper music and you were connected to Jitsi. And we had about 25 people in. So you were the actually, you were not only, the host, but you were also the engineer. And, what we've gone to is we dropped Jitsi and went to free conference calls. So we went from 25 to a thousand people. And you were connecting directly to Euro Folk Radio, and I am now handling the connections, and we're connecting to Eurofocal Global Voice Radio.
Radio Soapbox is picking up the stream from Eurofocal. When Alan is with us, he is grabbing the stream from Zoom, which we added, which we didn't have before. And he is spraying that out to five different platforms, WBOU, Home Network TV, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, Go Live tv, and streamlife.tube. And we went from one computer and one person engineering everything to a host and an engineer. So we went to two people, And instead of one computer handling the show, we went to four computers handling the show because it takes one computer on your end and three computers on my end to accomplish what we're doing today. Okay. So the show, as far as the listeners and the attendees, has has not appeared to change. However, the engineering backdrop has, like, exploded.
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So Okay.
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And for those of you who understood all that, congratulations. So Paul comes on here, gives us all these technical explanations, and I don't know about you, but I don't generally understand. It goes over my head, but I I think he feels better telling us. So, you know Well, yeah. And I mean, Paul was the one that got us on the air.
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And, but it things have changed. And then there was a and then there was a Sarah Westall interview. Yeah. A Sarah Westall interview, and then I showed up, and then the real cockey hit the fan.
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Well, it's good. It's good to have a sidekick on here like you. I appreciate that very much. You're you're pretty you're very good on on the air. You know, I guess, you had some previous experience when you were younger in broadcasting, didn't you, Paul? Yeah. Yeah. I was I was I was in the WBEM,
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FM radio program in high school through Minneapolis Public Schools.
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Oh. Oh, yeah. I've I've I've done the morning drive. Okay. Cool. Alright. Well, that is just somebody that's had broadcast experience. There's just a familiarity there, and it's seamless. And, I appreciate you on there. Appreciate you being there on the left hand or the right hand, whichever one it is. So let's see. Where can we go this morning?
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There there is there is one other thing I bring to the table. I am an absolute bonehead about audio quality. It's it just bothers me when something doesn't sound right. So Okay. Cool.
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Well, we appreciate, being,
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obsessive compulsive. I'm sorry. OOCD. There I am.
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So, gosh. You know, usually, these Saturday shows are a little different. They were originally stuck on couple years ago in the height of the Biden insanity so that people who are looking for answers at work could come ask questions. And we've been continuing it ever since, and it's just generally one of those little different days. Because it's Saturday, we have a pretty dedicated group here with us generally, and, and there's not all the news flying and flashing around to cover and stuff. So sometimes we get off on some real educational shows here on background and stuff, and it's a good day for it, Thursday also. But, those two days are particularly suited for that, I think.
Let's see. What can I go over? One, I had a conversation earlier this week with, with a gal named DJ, Donna Jean, a friend for quite a few years now. Met her through doing networking stuff with John, and, she's, working on a couple of deals. And and I said, well, just come on the air and talk about them if you want to to the audience. So one of these days, Donna Jean's gonna show up and do that. She's got a health deal, and then she's got some sort of a banking gifting deal that's global, that's in a number of different countries. So we'll find out about that when miss DJ comes along. Let's see what else. I want to remind y'all, if I could, because I didn't do it yesterday, if you take just a moment, won't take too long, and send an email to Chase Geyser.
And, I had sent him one earlier this week on Wednesday or something. It was entitled God's Trump card. I put the, interview with Badass Uncle Sam on there because Badass Uncle Sam's affiliated with the Infowars through Band. Video. Asked him to, also share it with Harrison and, did a little couple of a little and one of the things I put in there is do you you do you wanna know why Alex doesn't have access to the thirteenth amendment? You know, in this all this legal stuff he's going through, and he tried to claim they were after his name. And he tried to claim the thirteenth amendment and involuntary servitude, and the law firm replied, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
And they're they're all kind of dumbfounded about that. They don't understand it. So that's one thing I put in the email, and Chase had asked two weeks ago, three weeks ago, two weeks ago, I guess. He was subbing for Harrison for the week. Harrison was on vacation. And, he put a picture on the back backing there behind him of this country, The US. And he said, this is the national government. And then he had DC said, this is the federal government run by elites. And so I pointed that out to him, tried to remind him of that. A very I didn't go into long, just very short sentences. And, the other thing was on a Sunday night, like, week before last, he said he was bitching about taxes.
Where's where's that noise coming from? Right? You want Paul? Somebody messing around with something? Somebody's
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somebody's unmuted. Okay.
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Somebody can mute yourself. Austin, I think, is unmuted. Oh, is Austin here? Oh, well, I'll be darned. Hey, Austin. I'll get to you in just a second, man. Glad you showed up. The other thing was on Sunday night, he was bitching about taxes, and I said, he said, if anybody's got any information on how to get out of the tax system, please contact me. So those two things, remove yourself from federal jurisdiction, all that tax system goes along with that. So I'm gonna give you his email address. If you just follow-up with you need to listen to the Rogers sales information or however you wanna put it, you might wanna go over and throw that link in there, which is over in the new student section on our website, the matrix docs.
Just a little bit down the page, it's got, God's Trump card. That's that interview with, badass uncle Sam. And if you just help nudge Chase with some, follow-up, hey. Listen to this emails. We we may just get us a shot over there. So, that address is chase, chase,@alexjones.network. [email protected]. If you do that and help me with the heavy lifting, we might, we might get our foot in the door over there. I haven't heard back from Anne Vandersteel. I'm hoping to. I'll probably reach out to her this weekend because she had originally told David in their conversation, could we schedule an interview for the fifth and the sixth? Well, that's Monday and Tuesday, and I hadn't heard from her. So, I'll reach out and say, you know, we did just neglected to discuss it in our conversation. There's so much else going on.
But we'll see. That may be next week. Paul, for your edification, I was, gonna do a, interview Thursday with Logan. Remember I told you a couple of weeks ago when he scheduled it, there were some kind of a he had some kind of a scheduling platform in there. And it's just difficult for my eyesight and the magnification I have to go through to read something like that. I just said, look. Could you do it? Excuse me. Just pick a date and do it. You know? Give me a time. I'll I'll work with you. Well, he picked last Thursday, the thirty first, and he sent me that link. And you said, what was the link to? And I said, I don't know. You know? Well, he had another one of these packages that somebody has rigged up for him, and it's a it's a link that goes this says, are your microphones working and all this stuff? Well, I'm on the portable. I can't read it.
And and so, anyway, we scrapped that interview. We're gonna reschedule and probably, we'll either you we'll figure out something to use. Probably use that, but I'll have you, tap into my portable and answer those questions to get the damn thing working. So, anyways, one of those unusual situations normally doesn't happen. So the Logan interview and I did get to speak with him for a bit And, nice guy, really nice guy, very interested in moving to Ecuador. And, so we'll we'll see how that goes. Anyway, so that's where we are on the interviews. And, I feel like with the new infusion we've gotten this week, it's part sorry for my beeping here. I've got some kind of thing happening with the water pump, which is in the room behind me.
And, it's starting and stopping and all that, and it's causing that beep. So I got a guy out here looking at it right now. Maybe we'll find out and get it fixed. He's been doing it for a couple of days. So that seems to be what I wanted to cover. Austin, did you finally come back and get with us today?
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Yeah. So we're, we just had a few vacations there in the the past couple weekends there. So I'm sorry to miss out on any
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conversations that you guys may have had. Well, we're always we're having conversations six days a week. I'm glad you had a little camping vacation. Where'd you go? You got there as big bear or something? We went to,
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to Kernville. So it's, about in between Los Angeles and, Las Vegas there. And I'll tell you what, I I do miss this. A really small town, and it's kinda funny where, you you know, a lot of people reference everyone knows each other. This town knew everyone by first name and last name. It's
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Yeah. It was quite fun. It was one of those deals. Yeah. Cool. Well, I'm sure you had a great time. Camping is fantastic. Is that up in the Sierra Madres?
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Apple Valley. It's just east of, Bakersfield out there. Mhmm. So I'm not sure if they're correct, Sam. But, yeah, the the Kern River is where we camped out at. Alright. Well, cool. Glad you have a good summer vacation there. Is that you and your family? Yeah. It was me and a few friends out there. Okay. The family definitely stay at home.
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Okay. Gotcha. More of a boy's trip. Yeah. My my my my old friend, David Strait, did not not this new David Strait, but my old buddy, and he'd go, my idea of camping is a holiday.
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Yeah. There you go.
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So welcome back. You've had a time then to mull over what we've gone over. I don't know if you've done any additional studying or stuff, but we're glad you're back, particularly today because we've, hit with our information. I did an interview with, oh, Hoyt Kevin Hoyt here a couple weeks ago, and it struck a group that had their own group going. And so they showed up or at least a few of them did on Thursday, and I'm sure there's few of them with us today. So as we go along with you, it will help to educate them too. So that I like that kind of stuff right there. And, you know, the reason we do this is so it's kinda selfish on my end.
If we don't do this education on the air, then everybody emails me with questions. And I don't wanna answer all those emails, quite frankly, on the same thing over and over and over again. So what I do in my policy just for new people who may be with us today is any questions or anything you wanna ask or debate or talk about on the air is absolutely fine and and and free. Now if you wanna come over and get my personal time, hey, Roger. Can you give me a call? You know, all that. Well, I charge for that. Just to try and throw things over here on the air because then everyone's exposed to the question and the answer. If I'm doing that individually, as we really explode, which I think we're right on the verge of, I just don't have the time. Okay?
And, and so that's why I do this. There's a method to my madness. Everything we do here is thought out. So, so we've got at least a couple of those folks, Todd being the leader of that little munch. So I'm assuming they're with us today. You've had a couple of weeks to noodle on all this. We wanted to ask y'all so about your vocation, particularly today, because I can get into a very interesting do you guys, as your firm, do you take, people's IRAs and put them in metals?
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Yeah. So we have a full service IRA department that handles anything between government accounts like TSPs, 403bs, all the way to your more common ones like four zero one ks's and as you mentioned, IRAs. If you have like a brokerage account or a, a Roth IRA, those would be more considered, those would be cash accounts. Yes. But you can roll funds over as well. It's a tax free penalty for events. But with the cash accounts as well, you get the benefit of just getting the metal sent directly to your home address too. Oh, my goodness. Now that's a different
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okay. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna segue into something that makes that very important, and we've been wanting to ask you. Julie said that your firm or you may work up a special deal if people from our audience call you. They may get a shave off a percentage or whatever. But, particularly in light of what the person that brought you to us, Julie, sent me this morning, I've talked about a few times on here. I've got a a rudimentary understanding of it, which is private equity. Are are you familiar with that whole fiasco?
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I'm not familiar with the fiasco part of it, but private equity, yes.
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Well, it's they're they're stripping asset stripping the whole country. And now they've run out of because the way they're set up, and I like I said, I don't have a perfect understanding of it. But the way they're doing it, they go in and buy, say, a corporation, and then this got franchisees, and they go in and bankrupt the corporation with debt. Red Lobster is one. Hooters is another. The people that owned the Hooters franchises are doing fine. The people that had a franchise under the umbrella are, bankrupt. There's a number of other ones. I can't list them all, but I've got, Julie was, kind enough to send us a little short explanation of what's going on. They're they're trying to move into four zero one k's because they've run out of troughs of money to to dip their their evil, pails in.
So, that may be particularly interesting to you if you don't know about it and also to the audience if if by any fortune you got sucked into having these retirement accounts long time ago. All they're doing is trying to get a pool of money that later on they're gonna steal. They're gonna swap out some damn worthless paper for that cash that's in there, and you're gonna be screwed. And that's what's happening right now, and they're trying to move on to the four zero one k's and the retirement accounts because that's the only sloshes of cash left out there. Okay. So, Paul, I sent you. I forwarded you that. We don't have to play the whole thing. It's not very long, but it does.
I forwarded you that this morning. If you could queue that up maybe so we could play a bit of it for the audience and for Austin too. Because these are vicious bandits. They just can't stand to see something that that it that you own that hadn't been stolen yet. It drives them crazy. Okay? And, so they just look for big scams to steal stuff. That's what they do. The whole thing's a scam. As Austin is learning here, the whole financial system's a damn scam. And that's what we're trying to do is expose them on that and see if the the repercussions are severe as we'd like. So, so but, Paul, did you locate that by any chance? Maybe we could get that out of the way before we get in with nits and grits with Austin and the other folks that might have questions.
Did you happen to find that? This is a gal. She had a franchise, and she got taken to the cleaners on this. And so she's, like we are, fighting back. Okay? And the only thing you can do to fight back is expose them. And, the big the the, what is it? $14,000,000,000,000, I think she said. $14,000,000,000,000 sitting in pension funds. I can't believe they've got that much cash in there and had to swap worthless US bonds for them already, which they've done a lot of. But, anyway, if we can find it, I don't know, Paul's off messing with his machines or something. Chasing the cats. He's got a laser pointer over there with the cat or something.
He'll come back. Okay. So, Austin, well, it's it's been a couple of weeks since we spoke. How's our information settled in with you? I mean, you're back, so that's probably a good sign. But I'd like to get your Oh, yeah. Your observation on what you've, come to understand here since you were initially, presented with this info. By the way, you know who was presented with it last weekend? You don't.
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Who?
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General Flynn. Oh, really? It's what we General Flynn hopped on. That's No. No. I didn't say no. I didn't say he hopped on. I said he was presented with the information. K? So we'll see if he hops on or not. That's still out on judgment. But as you've experienced, when you get presented with this stuff, you just don't catch it immediately. Most people by far far don't k. You it take because I'm turning your world upside down. I'm showing you reality and the scam and the illusion you've been in. And it takes a while to get through to people even as bright as general Flynn. Now the interesting thing is, I don't mind saying it here on the air, if if we could ever get organized even in a small way on this particular subject of exposing these guys and put this out where they got where we got a great deal of response, we had a huge audience, hopefully.
We'll get a a percentage of response, and they get maybe 10 to 20,000,000 affidavits in a short period of time and all those people follow through and pull themselves out of the tax system, you're gonna be selling a lot of gold and silver with the price is gonna be a lot of That's,
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Yeah. It's, yeah, that's how we're expected. I mean, when all the central banks are buying in, of course, it's, it's anybody's best guess that it's if the their their economist might know a thing or two more than the rest of us. Right? So it's, it's definitely something to where it's it looks like the longevity is definitely gonna be there. Right. Now, Austin, are you familiar with the, Balfour
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three it's not not the Balfour. Yeah. Maybe Balfour three agreements out of the BIS.
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I'm not.
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Well, you need to something recent or is that No. Balfour three The the recent part of it is it just kicked in in July The it would Oh, okay. It was written twenty ten years ago or so. I believe you can put balfour three and it'll come up. It was written out as a b basil basil. That's it. Basil three, and that is, of course, what they wrote. And and there was an interview with a former BIS director who's retired. I think it was out of Netherlands or something. And he laid the whole scheme out to the interviewer. And this is back in the eighties, I think late eighties. And they said, well, we know what's going on with the paper and the and the metals and the things that are real. And so we understand that that is some place gonna not be equilibrium and that we're going to have to fall back on something to take care of the paper losses that we've had.
And so they wrote this Balfour three agreement. I say Balfour, that but but what? Basal. Excuse me. Basil three. I don't know where I I don't know where I got I said, I got the juice on my mind too much. Chicken slingers. So, anyway, the basil basil three, they did something real important. Now the BIS has been around since the early thirties. And if you ever wanna read the total background on the formation of this, do you know who congressman Louis t McFadden was, Austin?
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Name rings a bell. I can't say what he did or didn't do. He was a great congressman
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in the house back in the early part of last century. He was a former banker, and that he was elected to congress. So back then, the the house had a banking committee. So as soon as he was elected with his background, he was put as the head of the banking committee in the house. He wrote, articles of impeachment for the Federal Reserve that are still active, at least dormant, sitting up on a shelf. If you go look his name up, you'll see some of his famous people. We went over the, the last time we spoke. Did we? Okay. Well, just for the rest of the audience, I might not know. McFadden, one of his speeches, if you put him in a search engine, if it's if they haven't scrubbed it, will be the Jews have all the gold and the Gentiles have all the paper.
So he was very well aware of what's going on. And, he there's a book on the website called the collectives 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden. It was 31 speeches on the house floor live, not this, special ordered stuff they do now. And, they somebody went and pulled them out of the congressional record. One of those speeches, and I don't remember which one because I read that book many years ago. When I first got into this, I didn't understand most of it, but I plowed through it anyway. But one of the whole speeches is on the formation of the Bank of International Settlements called the BIS. That's the Bankers Bank, they call it. It's in Basel, Switzerland.
And, so, if you wanna find out more from a banker that understood that stuff, that's where you go in reference. Okay? But, about 2015, I think, they passed this Basel three Accord. And what it did was it changed the value of gold and metals to the respect of how the bank looks at them and registers them on their balance sheet. Up to this point from 1933 forward, there's been three tiers of assets under a a bank, one, two, and three. And the difference is tier one is the most liquid assets, cash, bonds, stocks, whatever. And they get to carry 100% of that value over to the balance sheet.
At tier two, they get to carry 75% of the value over to the balance sheet. Tier 50% over. Ever since the BIS was formed almost a hundred years ago, gold has been a tier three asset. That's why banks didn't buy it. Well, Basel three switched that, and they moved gold up to a tier one asset. Now they did that in this Basel three back in, well, ten years or so ago, but it just became active this month or last month July. So that's why you've been seeing banks. Have y'all had bank customers or large customers like that, Austin?
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Are we still hooked up? Working as well as listening to this. Yeah. Okay. It's it's all gonna be in and out, just to give you guys a heads up, but I am listening the whole time. Okay. Okay. We've we've had a few big people. I actually ran into somebody yesterday that, purchased gold through Chase, apparently. Yeah. And, basically, they already had a, an executive account, I think the the term was, for them. And, apparently, they're offering it as well. So it is, it is quite something. I mean, like, I I mean, we do an average trade size of, like, a 100,000. Sometimes it's cash. Sometimes it's a rollover. But typically, with those bigger amounts, it's people just don't really have the the resources to provide them that much, unless you go to another, distributor like myself.
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Well, what you're seeing is them offering this to their best customers, I would imagine. Anyway, the word's out, and they've been doing it. I had a very good friend in Atlanta named Tom Cloud. He was one of the top 20 coin dealers in the world. He's retired since. And, I called Tom one day. He said, man, Ron, I said, how you doing? He said, I'm busy as hell. And he said, I have got banks lined up buying gold. Now that was a number of years ago. K? So they've been doing that, and that's one of the reasons that gold had been suppressed in the price so that all of them could get more and gouge at the trough. Okay?
So that is, that's they're still buying gold, but now as of July, it kicked in. Now they're tier one assets. Okay? So that's what's been going on, and, they're just buying it hand over fist. They're not necessarily buying Bitcoin and cyber coins to my knowledge from people that I listen to, but they're certainly buying gold. And, then they're trying to desperately get out of their silver shorts because they every time silver goes up a dollar, they lose a billion dollars in their short on their naked short positions. So we got all that going on, and, that's indicative to me along with the other harbingers, the tea leaves, if you will.
We we got a we got a really big financial situation coming up. Don't know when, don't know how soon, but it may not be too long. K? For those of us who've been waiting for it for Roger. Thirty plus years. Larry, good morning.
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Good morning, Roger. Speaking of McFadden, I'm surprised this was left in Wikipedia because as you might know, Wikipedia is being edited, monitored, and edited by, you know, the Zionists to kinda say what they wanted to say. But anyway Has been this is in, Wikipedia. Yeah. So if you look up William t McFadden, it says McFadden later became a vociferous foe, and this is in quotation marks, vociferous foe of the Federal Reserve, which he claimed was created and operated by Jewish banking interests who conspired to economically control The United States.
In a speech in the house of representatives in December 1931, McFadden accused Paul Warburg, one of the lead forces behind the Federal Reserve Act of having engineered the Great Depression. On 06/10/1932, McFadden made a twenty five minute speech before the House of Representatives in which he accused the Federal Reserve of deliberately causing the Great Depression. Yep.
[00:36:09] Unknown:
Yep. So a great a great American. If y'all never heard him before, I'll tell you how good this guy was. The last time he ran, they finally well, I was red. They murdered him on the fourth attempt at a dinner at the Waldorf Astoria. Poison, of course, their favorite. But the last time that he ran for congress, he was nominated by the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Populist Party. All three parties nominated the same guy. I've never heard that happening before. That's the kind of he wasn't a politician. He was a statesman. One of his I've I've got excerpts on a number of several of his speeches in my book. And in one of those speeches, he says, they're erecting a Machiavellian feudal system.
So McFadden saw it. Of course, he didn't know the end game, but he could see it being shaped up and see what it was conceptually. So great guy. My point being that even though gold appears to be high right now, believe me, it is gonna jump. And I don't know if it's between 10 or 20,000, probably in that range. Austin, were you familiar with a guy named Jim Sinclair? Did we talk about that the last time you were on?
[00:37:29] Unknown:
Let me, let me take a quick look. Jim Sinclair?
[00:37:33] Unknown:
Jim Sinclair. Correct. You used to work worked with, Holder. Bill Holter? No. We did not cover, Jim Sinclair yet. Well, he wasn't. He was still alive at that point. They used to have a little, common website, a little radio show, and you could pay a fee and get behind, get more. Jim Sinclair, you do you he do you know who he was? Are you familiar with him at all? I can't even say the the name rings a bell on this guy. Okay. Well, he was, he was part of the in crowd, and he was the guy back in 1980 when the Hunt Brothers cornered the silver market and drove silver to $50. He was the guy that Paul Volcker, once he was put in by Reagan as over the Federal Reserve, he hired Jim Sinclair to unwind the Hunt Brothers silver position.
So let's just say that he knew where the skeletons were buried. K? And so, after what happened was they they killed his wife. They were supposed to be going on a plane trip somewhere, and he had to back out at the last minute, and the plane blew up and has killed his wife. And he turned totally, I believe that incident was probably pivotal, and turned on them. And, it was him and Holter in an interview. They're just discussing things about the what the price of gold should be. And it's hard to tell because we don't know with counterfeit presses out there in Russia and Iran and other places how many, what appear to be legitimate $100 bills have been cranked out. Okay? So we don't know the amount of circulating paper.
But he said he thought if it was ever equated to the price of gold, the price of gold would be about a 180 to 85,000 an ounce. That was Jim Sinclair. So if we do this little pop here in the, somewhere near future to between ten to twenty, we hadn't even scaled the amount of the fraud. K? So that's my point. Good investment, gold, silver, Bitcoin too, any of the cybers be good now, not any of them, but the specific ones. And, just if you got extra cash around, man, you'd be thinking about this. Be thinking if you got four zero one k's with this private equity stuff rolling up and Trump looks like, from what this girl says, he's about to sign over, access to your four zero one k's and your pension accounts to these bandits.
Get it get it in gold and silver. You can do that. You can do it with our friend Austin here. He'd probably give you a good deal. So, anyway, Austin, that's leading up to all that for the general audience and some of the new people that may not know that stuff. Have you and I know you're working here. Have you had what questions have you come up with in the last couple of weeks as you've been thinking about this, Austin? Clients,
[00:40:35] Unknown:
in regards to
[00:40:36] Unknown:
the trajectory of where we're going? Or Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Not that. Not that. All that. But, you personally with this information and it's settling in with you, what questions or concerns you might have had in the last few weeks?
[00:40:51] Unknown:
Yeah. It's definitely a deeper dive than the most people take. It's really why I appreciate you guys to really do the research and help people like myself out, you know, understand it a little bit further. Because as much as I understand all the first words and stuff, all the inner workings, it's definitely helpful to really have, like, a a grounded idea of what they're trying to accomplish out there. And it was actually Julie that, pushed me to see more into the Genius Act that was passed. And I'm seeing a lot of the cryptos being tied to the dollar now through this stablecoin. And it's not looking too great. You know? It's it's just trying to keep everything afloat right now and but, when I try to put it as this, I I don't think it's I don't think it's without purpose of what we're, you know, intentionally doing to the dollar to, you know, hopefully pay it all off. But we're gonna definitely go over a lot of speed bumps in which to do so. So I'm kind of understanding what you guys are trying to underlay and understand.
And maybe, you know, it does help me kind of get, again, more of a a grounded effort into, you know, seeing the logistics
[00:42:05] Unknown:
behind of what they're trying to operate there. Okay. Well, you know, I'm I'm actually personalizing this for you, and it doesn't make any difference. Really, we'd all love to see you move forward with it, of course. But none of us are gonna ever tell you to do it because your freedom, like your spirituality, is your decision, not mine. I can show you what's going on and answer any questions and help you should you wanna move forward. But if you don't want to, we're not gonna shame you or anything, and that's alright. If you wanna stay a slave, a Jew slave, that's all you know, chickens a slave to the chicken slingers, well, then that's up to you.
But, this this gold stuff and everybody's financial stuff is very important. And, of course, what they're trying to do is steal everything you got and kill you. The the, you say something about paying the debt. Why would you wanna pay a fraudulent debt that's based on fraud? See, only because you have to or they can take your stuff and beat you up, maybe throw you in jail.
[00:43:08] Unknown:
But I was more referencing the the dangerous scheme of the the national debt there. For myself, though, yeah, totally interested. I've have seen it's kinda funny how Google likes to, you know, take a take account into what you're looking into. So I've been seeing a lot more stuff pop up on my computer in regards to, getting off of, getting off of taxes altogether. So, yeah, I would need to do more of a crash course, maybe even a one on one later to really kinda harness down, but
[00:43:38] Unknown:
but the time is coming, Roger. That is very easy. K? And, you haven't probably been around this movement very much, I'm assuming. But years ago, there was a big effort from a lot of people that had been, including an attorney named Larry Beecraft. And the big their battle cry was show us the law, show us the law, show us the law. And, of course, what they were doing was looking in the statutes. They weren't looking in the regulations. So they weren't even looking in the right place. They put a ad in the New York Times, a whole full page ad, anybody that can show us a log of 50,000 reward.
I I wish I'd have known all this back then. I could have collected on that. But, I'll show you the law and explain it to you, and it ain't hard at all. Okay? If you wanna go to your computer, you can follow along with me. I'm gonna recite it to you verbatim. The the location is 26 CFR 1.1 Dash 1 parenthesis small a. 26, code of federal regulations, CFR, 1.1 1 parenthesis small a. Now then before we get into that, let me see if I can get some agreement with you, Austin. Would you agree with me that there's only two political statuses? You're either free or you're a slave? I mean, the two major ones. Yeah. No. There are no, there are no others. You're either free or you're a slave.
So, anyway, let's go in now and look at this. I'm gonna quote it to you. An income tax is owed by all individuals, it's very important that they use that word there because it's us, who are citizens of The United States or residents, so now we know what the slaves are already, and to the extent of eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, all nonresident alien individuals. So we already know which one the slave is. So this nonresident alien, if it's Jose the tomato picker or whoever he may be, that's gotta be the free guy. And the question is, if you think it's Jose the tomato picker, those two statutes that were those the the eight seventy one, eight seventy seven b, they're both constitutional taxes. What would Jose the tomato picker be paying constitutional taxes for? He's he's illegal.
So you get my drift? What they've done is they've hired they've hidden us, the national, under a nonresident alien. What does that mean? Nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment and the state wherein they reside, and alien to the federal government in DC because you're a state citizen. So that's the links they've gone through to hide this in the tax code. Nobody's ever seen it and figured it out before but my teacher, John Benson. And that was the one thing. That's where I used to end all my presentations years ago because I didn't know how to go further than the tax system.
And that's what I've striven to do all these years, and I've accomplished it. Okay? And so that is what you it's in the affidavit you send in if you use one of ours, that that's where they've hidden the national and that it's a fraud. So when you unplug yourself from that, all this $37,000,000,000,000 worth of fraud in the bond market that we owe, Well, it's all gone because it's all based on this fraudulent system of asking you if you're in a condition of voluntary slavery. And they don't ask you the full question. They don't say, are you a citizen of The United States or a national? There's lack of full disclosure. That's first layer of fraud. There's layer upon layer upon layer underneath that.
K? So that's why nobody from the IRS we haven't suffered one blowback. Oh, they'll send you some letters and they're they don't know what to do because they've been caught red handed. See? And so they're trying all these little ways to send you this letter and this, that, and the other, and they're easily rebuttable, and they've never moved on one person that we've been told about. So, that's that's the whole tax thing right there. That's how easy that is. So, if the IRS is your big concern, you can ask some of the people on the forum here. Has anybody been dinged by them? If you had any lien, levy, garnishment, seizure? No. And, so, anyway, that's these things are really simple. They appear complex because of the things they I just illustrated to you, nonresident alien. How they go in, they change that. Instead of putting national, they put nonresident alien.
And, boy, a lot of people have been fooled by that. K? So that's the tax deal. The rest of it is all as simple too. It's just a bait and switch. They set up they they had the original guy, the state citizen. They set up the federal guy after this war, supposedly mostly black. Underneath it is the feudal system. They get a bankruptcy going. They throw everybody in as a surety for that false fraudulent bankruptcy. There's fraud again. Fraudulent bankruptcy. And then the feudal system is imposed on the whole country as a surety for the debt. All the children that are born are born into a silent contract because their parents were serfs. They're born into servitude. And then all they do is ask you as you get over 18. Hey. Hey, Austin. You assist The United States and a resident? Yep. Yep. Right here. Where do I sign? Bam. And now you've agreed with their fraud, and you've given them the consent to govern you in that capacity.
That's what's going on. I mean, that's really how complex this is. So, what, let let's, you're you're working and stuff. So you you didn't have any specific questions, Austin, about all that? And and if not, I'm gonna go over to Todd and his bunch because they're new, and they probably got some questions. But did you have anything particularly you wanted to ask us?
[00:50:08] Unknown:
So the, the affidavit that I would fill out is gonna be on the matrix docs. Correct? And then it's just gonna be pretty
[00:50:15] Unknown:
okay. Yeah. It's one of I'm gonna check it out a little bit. Okay. Well, I can quote it to you verbatim. I wrote it. You can go over to the state department website. They've got a one sentence, affidavit sentence. It says, I, Austin, the gold dealer, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. That'll get you out of it. All is not what you say. It's that you rebut the presumption that's running from you answering those questions. Yes or no in all life. Because you've agreed with them. You've told them you were a slave. You've given them consent to govern you. That's all under what's called a presumption of law.
A presumption of law is a presumption that's based upon another fact. So the original fact is a fraudulent bankruptcy in 03/09/1933. The presumptions are, oh, we've got a service of bankruptcy. We've got all these people over here. We're in this condition where we can have a property ride on them. We'll just put them all in at one time as a surety for the debt. That's the presumption. And then you roll on and agree with it. So all you've got to do is rebut the presumption that you have agreed to this fraudulent. They've got to recognize it because it's fraud.
They can't say no. They can't rebut it because it's true. They can't deny it because it's true. And the only thing they can do, Austin, is stand mute. And that brings in the old silence deems consent maxim. So by the mere fact that they can't address it, they convict themselves by standing mute.
[00:51:53] Unknown:
How about that?
[00:51:54] Unknown:
The most powerful son of a bitch I like that have ever walked the face of the earth in our our general more more wealth, more influence, more bombs, guns, all that stuff. They stand mute, Austin, to one sentence. Now I I'll say this. I've said it before. You don't join us regularly because you work, of course. But I've I've done a lot of historical research over many decades. So I have a lot of other folks here. I've asked the question, has anybody ever in history found or anyone had these bastards in the corner like this? They're in a corner. They can't do anything. And the answer is no.
To our knowledge, nobody else has ever had this knowledge to lock these guys into fraud, especially at this level where the whole world economy depends on it because it's the reserve currency is the US dollar. And under this fraud, we're the damn collateral for it. That's the taxes. Yes. There's Larry again while, Austin. I'm dumping all this stuff on him here today. Yes, Larry. What do you got? Yeah. Yeah. I'd like you to, briefly go over,
[00:53:11] Unknown:
the next step with Austin when you file a legal lawful notice to the IRS. And I have a comment to that after you get done because I think I figured out what goes on behind the scenes using their own words. Okay. Good. Okay. Well, what what happens is that we do this all very lawfully and legally.
[00:53:30] Unknown:
And with total due process, Austin, due process is the well, it's almost the basis of all laws, really. Even over in the laws of city, they have due process. If you're gonna be dragged into something, you gotta be subpoenaed, and you gotta sign it, and recognize you got it, and all that's kind of what we call due process. I'm sure you've heard that phrase before. Due process is ultra important. It's very simple to understand, notice, and the right to be heard. That's due process. Or as Brent would say, the process that's due in owing because it mainly comes from our common law. But notice and the right to be heard. And so what you do, if you wanna follow through on this, you'll take whatever affidavit that you wanna use.
And, yeah, do do an affidavit. You can just do a declaration, but it just doesn't carry the affidavit carries a little bit sharper teeth with it. K? So it just getting into the rise. And so you get that. You send it to our our suggested process. You could probably short sheet this. I'm sure you don't have any skeletons in your closet like some folks might. But the first thing we ask you to do is send a a a cover short cover letter to the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, and, please find the enclosed citizenship evidence. Please adjust your records wherever as to my new political status.
That's all you have to tell them. Okay? And you send that to the secretary of state. You have a certified mail thing on it probably. Don't have to, but you you it makes people sleep better. Then after you've done that with you, I would say you don't have to wait, because I'm sure you've got a lily clean record. But, at some point right after that, you, apply for a passport. Do you already have a passport, Austin?
[00:55:27] Unknown:
Yes. I do.
[00:55:29] Unknown:
Well, what you would do then in that is a book or card or both?
[00:55:34] Unknown:
It it's both.
[00:55:36] Unknown:
You might wanna just go in and you what you would do is you do a renewal, d s 82, include the affidavit in with the renewal request, $30 for a new card, and you slip your affidavit into that package. And then you'll get a new card back that will be attached to your affidavit reflecting your new status with the highest form of ID issued by the federal government. K? So and that's where I found the answer to all this in the passport application, by the way. I knew all the background. I've been looking for what they call the our status, but they change it just like I have it. Here in the tax code. It's nonresonating.
Over in title 42, it's the white citizens. Over in title aid, it's something else. So they they just change the label. You don't bring out a new pig. Look at the new pig. It's got all this new lipstick and this little new tutu on it, and everybody goes, oh, a new pig. So that's all they're doing, just changing the label and stuff. This is why our community, I believe, has made as little progress as we made over the decades is because they don't understand some of this stuff in the back legal technical stuff because they don't teach it in law schools anymore for the most part. And they just changed the label on all this stuff, and our people bite the new label, and they're not studying concepts.
That's why I try and teach concepts on the back end. If you learn the concepts, they can never fool you with their shenanigans again. K? So, anyway, you just send a short cover letter to well, it's not just IRS. It's if you had a piece of property in your backyard and you wanted to build a pond and the EPA has kept telling you can't do that or you did it and they're trying to fine you, well, you can notice the EPA because you're out of that too. Alright? So any of these agencies that may be giving you problems, you can do the same thing with. But with the IRS, we just suggest you send it to the Washington DC office with another short cover letter informing them that that affidavit is now on file with the secretary of state.
If you've gotten a passport back, you could put a passport number in there to reference the status, and you send that to IRS. Well, now they're out of the loop unless you owe any eight seventy one and eight seventy seven b taxes, which I doubt you'll ever owe. K? If it's stocks and stuff or bonds, it's a percentage of what you get back as a dividend. Not the capital gains, but what you get back as a dividend. That's taxable. K? So, that's you send it to them. Now that is pretty much what we call the front end here. Gosh. Are we already at the Whistler? Well, that's pretty much the front end.
And the back end is you weaponizing your position in the state of California. We got a lot of Southern California folks on here too, by the way. And, what you would do is now you would take and serve it on the chief legal officer in the state of California, just a simple cover letter and a copy of the affidavit, and that would be the attorney general. And then at the bottom, you copy your local sheriff, your local chief of police, and your local prosecutor. CC, like carbon copy, where you just send them a copy individually of the of what you sent the attorney general.
Now there's a couple little specifics on there we put at the top of the of the, cover letter, and notice to the principals, notice to the agent, notice to the agents, notice to the principal. That invokes the laws of agency because they're all agents connected under the attorney general. So what you've done is you've locked them all together here. And say, you get a sheriff issues you a ticket when they're supposed to be protecting you from that, and then the district attorney dockets it on the docket. Well, theoretically, at least, all three, the sheriff, the prosecutor, and the attorney general, because you put them on notice of this and they've crossed over that line, they're now all, liable and they lose their shield of immunity.
So you you should be able to sue them in their personal capacity. K? And so, that's what you do. You send that out and wait and see if you get back any answers, but you've done your part. You put them on notice. And, sometimes you'll get a letter back from them. The attorney general of California likes to send back a letter saying we respect the rights of our private citizens. That'll be buried in the paragraph somewhere. But, they recognize it, and so, you're free. Everybody's been put on notice. You shouldn't have any problems. Shouldn't. It didn't mean you won't occasionally, but you shouldn't, and most people don't.
So that's the whole process. It's a little detailed, but it's not difficult. And it all hinges on everybody seeing that they got a copy of that affidavit and what you say and that, it's been on file with the secretary of state. He's the head lord of the manor on all matters concerning citizenship.
[01:01:10] Unknown:
Okay? Roger.
[01:01:11] Unknown:
Yes. There's Larry again. Yes or no? You had a question. Right?
[01:01:15] Unknown:
No. I wanted to interject the comment. So, I do a lot of research studying the, you know, the statutes in The United States code and the code of federal reg the code of federal regulations. And you've always taught us to use, if if you can, to use their own language and laws
[01:01:35] Unknown:
against them, and I think I figured out what goes on behind the scenes. That's the key. What's that? They're you're using their words that they've already defined and they built a whole system on. That's why they've gotta recognize them. It's the key in the matrix. And so I I
[01:01:52] Unknown:
Go ahead. I think I figured out what goes on behind the scenes when you send in your legal lawful notice to the IRS commissioner.
[01:01:59] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:02:00] Unknown:
You're letting them know, obviously, that you're no longer a US citizen or resident. And, this comes from, what what I'm about to read comes from a flowchart from the IRS website that I I just I just discovered this a couple of weeks ago. And, it it instructs it's a flowchart that instructs the agent on how to deal with a nonresident alien. And just like you've taught us, when you become a national, you're classified as a nonresident alien in the IRS data banks. And, and the thing about it is, when you when you study that word nonresident alien in either the statutes of The United States code or the code of federal federal regulations, like, more than 95% of the time, it's always referring to what I call a nonresident alien foreign national of another country. Yes.
Very few times is the nonresident alien referring to what I would call a nonresident alien national or citizen of The United States Of America. So they they don't differentiate between those two, those two individuals, you know, a a nonresident alien foreign national and a nonresident alien, national of The United States Of America. They do that as you've taught us. They do that on purpose. So, anyway, when you send in your legal lawful notice to the IRS commissioner, this is what I think goes on behind the scenes. Because before I read this, there's there's always been a lot of confusion over the years with, students wondering, you know, what's the difference between, filing a revocation of election and sending in my legal lawful notice? Well, here here's the answer to that.
So here's what it says. Once the election is once the election is made, it remains in effect for all subsequent taxable years, except for years for which the election is suspended or terminated. So this is talking about the nonresident alien foreign national, and it does apply also to the to the nonresident national of The United States Of America because they're both classified as nonresident aliens. And the statue in The United States code at sixty thirteen g deals just in general with nonresident aliens, and that's also the statute that deals with revocation of election.
And all revocation of election is is sending in a note or a brief statement telling the IRS that you are you are no longer going to volunteer. You're revoking your election, and you want the account terminated. So the IRS in this flowchart, they use these two terms, suspended and terminated. So it goes on to say the election is suspended for a taxable year. If during that taxable year, neither spouse is a US citizen or resident. So once you send in your your legal lawful notice, letting the IRS commissioner and and his agents know that you're no longer a US citizen or resident, and here's and here's my proof, here's my evidence, and you sent a copy of your affidavit of citizenship evidence, they now see you as not a US citizen or resident, and therefore, according to their own, you know, their own inner workings of their flowcharts and how they have to govern themselves, they suspend the account.
And so it isn't until maybe later on you wanna make a decision that you want to execute a revocation of election, then when you do that, you are terminating the account. So I'll read this one more time, and then I'll and then I'll, let it get back to you. Once the election is made, it remains in effect for all subsequent taxable years except for years for which the election is suspended or terminated. The election is suspended for a taxable year if during that taxable year, neither spouse or a US citizen, neither spouse is a US citizen or resident. And then it goes on to say the election can be terminated at the earliest of either of the following. And the first thing it says is revocation made by either spouse by filing a statement of revocation on or before the last day on which the return for that year is due and that could go all the way up to the last day of the year and if you file that revocation of election, then you can claim back that whole entire year. Yep.
And that also is true for your legal lawful notice. Yeah.
[01:07:05] Unknown:
So there's a lot of technical jargon of why I hated IRS, dealing with it, and I went the other way on jurisdiction. But that I'm pretty sure that is what's going on in the background, Larry. Hats off to you for God's stomach and reading through all that crap. Question. Yes. Question.
[01:07:28] Unknown:
I really, really got a hook in my craw on the term neither spouse. So and and there's no clarification on with respect to filing status, either, filing as single, married, filing separately, joint filing. There's no determination about that. It's it's left ambiguous, and I believe so for a reason. Now they may if, like, let's say there's a national and the spouse is still a citizen and they're playing both sides of the fence, that could be interpreted by the IRS to, be that it is still a citizen household. You know what I mean, Vern? Because there's no determination
[01:08:18] Unknown:
as to filing. Well, the next year, you the person that's still in the systems file separately, set them jointly. Turn in the paperwork. The other spouse that isn't in, we've got that situation. It's filed separately. Now they're gonna pay a higher tax rate because they induce everybody to get in and lower your tax rate a little bit. But that that's one way that would alleviate that, Paul, I believe.
[01:08:43] Unknown:
Right. But I think what they're doing is that they're operating under the presumption that if either of the spouses are citizens, then they are, then then they're bringing an income into the household. And if the national in that household is still receiving a benefit from that income, I'm thinking the IRS is gonna say, oh, no. No. No. No. You guys We've been You got a joint checking account. You're benefiting from taxable income. You know, at all these years, we've never had any response like that. So could, maybe, yes, coulda, you, shoulda, woulda, but they haven't. So without getting too technical and you start losing a lot of new people, can we kinda cut curtail this? That's just my OCD kicking in. Sorry. Okay.
[01:09:34] Unknown:
I I mean, I'm trying to talk to people that are new at this, and you're going into the super advanced class, Larry, at this point. So you want you got anything else to say about it? Well, I just just
[01:09:46] Unknown:
well, just to answer Paul's question, remember, what I just read from is a flowchart that's that's made to help the agents, the IRS agent deal with a nonresident alien for national. We're hidden behind that Correct. Because they don't differentiate between the two, entities, the the national and the foreign national. And so, you know, when it when it uses language about your spouse not being a US citizen, etcetera, that's because, if you if you are a foreign national and your spouse happens to be a a US resident and a US resident alien or a US citizen, if you are permitted to work in The United States, then you can actually make the election to be involved and file a joint ten forty, and so that's what all of this language is directed toward. And so if that foreign national who is now filing joint 10 forties with their US citizen or US resident alien spouse decides that they want to revoke that election, then they can do that. And then all they have to do is attach a statement saying, I'm now going to revoke this election.
Like, they gotta send some statement to the to the IRS. So, again, all of this is applicable to the nonresident alien foreign national. However, because we are in that same category as nationals hidden behind the, the non resident alien foreign national, we could take advantage of the same process. We could take advantage of the the statutes in The United States code, and they have to recognize it.
[01:11:38] Unknown:
Okay. It's just a bunch of deception as a whole it is, but it's still taking advantage of it. It's just like hiding us behind American Samoans. We hadn't even discussed American Samoans with Austin or the new people. So, anyway, thank you for that research. Larry's good at researching that stuff. I hate reading that crap and trying to interpret. That's why we're over here talking about concepts and jurisdiction. So, I I hope I hope they didn't confuse anybody. K? I try not to get complex like that on here because if we've got new people, Larry, it goes right over their heads. K? So, that that's swine. But I appreciate you doing that. Right. That's why I was I was I was trying to keep that simple too. Yeah. Well, there's no way to keep the I only way to keep the IRS simple is to do the way I do on 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a. Otherwise, you get into debt tax fusion regulations, and there ain't one damn thing simple in there, and it's all meant to obfuscate and confuse.
That's why I don't go there.
[01:12:43] Unknown:
Right. K. I'm and, again, that long explanation is when you send in your legal lawful notice, you are you are mutually agreeing that this the account is gonna be suspended. And later on, if you decide to do a revocation of election, then you are telling them to terminate the account. It's just as simple as that. Alright. Fantastic. Can we put that to bed?
[01:13:08] Unknown:
Thank you. Austin, I'm gonna come back to you. You're welcome. Austin, I'm gonna come back to you. What I'm trying to get at is do you have any personal questions as it applies to you personally, that may stop, impede, or or or facilitate you moving forward? I'll leave that up to you. Okay. Well, I'm assuming Austin's working or something. Todd, are you with us? You and your bunch with us today?
[01:13:33] Unknown:
Good morning, Roger. Hey, Todd.
[01:13:36] Unknown:
See How are you today? I see this kind of stuff we get into around here.
[01:13:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Listen. I just wanted to say hello. We have about 30. I am so we're so blessed that we have about 25 to 30 of my family members in here, and I sure enough wanna go through a couple more steps. Okay. But we have it all in that situation, Roger.
[01:13:58] Unknown:
Yes?
[01:14:00] Unknown:
We have it all a very, tough situation. Terry's trying to get in. I don't want it to get too off subject because I love my new people to hear all the stuff about the evidence, and, hopefully, they're watching the chat. But remember we were talking about, Kevin Hoyt over at Grassroots that you were at an interview with? Yes, sir. Okay. Well, it's within about nine to ten hours, he had a switch on his rumble where if a video came out, He is not there. Something happened. Oh. So he is missing him and his daughter.
[01:14:37] Unknown:
Well, they you know, they were after him. I told Julie. I said, if there's anybody from what you tell me that needs our information, it's Kevin. And if he eight or hours after whatever, he didn't have time to do any paperwork. So I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:14:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted it to be on the record and to let everybody know. Terry was gonna come in. She's having trouble unmuting. How do you unmute so Terry can just tell you a little bit quicker? I believe 6, isn't it, Paul?
[01:15:05] Unknown:
Oh, Paul. I believe it's 6.
[01:15:10] Unknown:
That's 2. Yeah. She's having trouble with that one. I think it's a three digit number as Paul said in the beginning.
[01:15:17] Unknown:
Okay. Let's see.
[01:15:19] Unknown:
6. Okay. Terry, 6 if you can. Anyways, until she comes in, it's, he's from the Grassroots Networks on, Rumble, Grassroot Warrior Network. I just want that everybody to be aware. Go in to watch his his last video. It's a if I don't check-in video that he never wanted to post. With that said, I have a lot of brand new people in here, Roger. If you could just have to talk to you and your team with just, like, where they how easy this is. I gave the website and everything on the chat, but if if you if I can go quiet and you could talk. I have another one that wants to talk about the contract.
[01:16:03] Unknown:
Current contracts. I know that's not the first thing you should work on. Contracts. Well, the one you file this affidavit, they're all because they're all based on fraud. It doesn't matter. You don't have to go back and undo every con all you have to do is do the big one. All the other ones fall on. There is under you. Hello? Is that Sarah? Roger. Okay. I'm sorry. Roger. As there you are. You found it. Hey. It's Carrie. Right? No. It's Gigi. Oh, it's Gigi. Okay. Well, I can't get y'all's voices from you yet.
[01:16:34] Unknown:
Okay. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm pretty good. How are you? I wanted to know if the guy is still on that was talking earlier about the four zero one k. Remember I was talking on Thursday about, trying to get my four zero one ks, but, Charles Schwab wanted me to do a w nine and then they switched up and said I can do a w eight, but it was one of their w eight and not particularly one from the IRS.
[01:17:07] Unknown:
I wanted to know if he can ask that question. If it's not a w eight, it's it's acceptable by them, and I think it'd have to be one of their deals. I think I told you the other day, though, that we've got a fella that John Kasarab, an old friend. He'll be on Monday, I hope. That is a forty year financial planner And and probably knows these areas better than most of us, although Austin may know a little bit about that. I don't know. But, yes, we know you've got that that situation. Can you can you hold it till next week?
[01:17:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I thought it was today, so I have the date mixed up. Okay. No. Monday, John will be with us Monday. We probably Okay. I'll be on on Monday. Thank you. I got great. Now Austin here,
[01:17:53] Unknown:
maybe somebody if you what do you you you want the cash out. You don't wanna take it over in the metals. You just want the cash because of your situation. Right? Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's wait till Monday if we could. But John should cross your fingers. John should be back. He might not be back at the top of the hour. Good. Because he's got some kind of a marketing thing before that, but he comes on somewhere in the two hours there. Hopefully, it'll be early. Okay? Now who Sounds good. Thank you. You're welcome, Gigi. Who, now who now I'm lost. Who are we supposed to be addressing? You said a guy about contracts, Todd?
[01:18:33] Unknown:
Jerry's unmuted.
[01:18:35] Unknown:
Yes. My I have my friend, Tony. Tony, why don't you unmute your phone and ask your question?
[01:18:41] Unknown:
Hey, Tony. Oh, Tony. Gary's unmuted. Hello, Tony? Yep. Earth to Tony. Well, Toni, I Yeah. Roger, if
[01:18:55] Unknown:
if Tony Okay. Terry if Terry is available.
[01:18:59] Unknown:
Okay. There's a female here. Roger. I Is that Carrie? Hi, Roger. This is Terry. This is Terry. K. Is it t or c? T as in Tom. Terry. Okay. I gotcha. Hi, Terry. Terry.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Hi. Yeah. I was just going to, let you know about what happened with Kevin. So, Todd kind of introduced that. And is this a good time just to let everybody know that we just need to the word out about him? Well, let's do that. Okay. Well, Kevin has a video up on Grassroots Warrior Network that says Kevin is missing in the in the subject line. And he has if he doesn't check-in within twenty four hours of his check-in time, then they post this video. So that was just posted about nine or ten hours ago that, we just wanted to get the word out that Kevin's such a great guy. He's been exposing child trafficking. And many of the, not so good people connected to the government, the police in the state of New Hampshire.
And so his his video is, probably it's the second one now, on his channel, his, Grassroots Warrior Network Rumble channel. And it just lists all the things he's been investigating. And so now he's not checked in, and he's missing. So we just wanted to let people know, if you're a praying person to pray for him and that he's found with his daughter. His daughter's, like, four. And that all of the good work that he's been doing is, not in vain because he's exposed so much child trafficking in that state. And the connections between the governmental bodies there and the the officials that are sheriffs and police officers.
So we're just very concerned about him and just wanted to let the let these listeners know. Mhmm.
[01:21:14] Unknown:
Well, that's understandable. I know New Hampshire's a pretty rotten state. They got Sununu and stuff up there. I've heard a lot of rumblings about all the corruption and and etcetera. I know Kevin has crossed swords with him before, and, let's hope that something happened here that's innocent that he just hasn't responded back. Don't know. Praying would be a good thing. Exactly. And, just, for everybody that is Kevin Vance, and I am too. He's a very nice interview. Good guy. And, we'll, hopefully, we'll help him out at some point. But you first thing he needs to do is get some of this paperwork in.
K? Now he may not realize the importance of that, but but it's really important for him to change statuses because then they can't continue to pursue him without potentially getting this information dragged into a spotlight somewhere. And that believe me. They don't want that. They're scared to death of this information getting out. K? They're not gonna be able to stop it. I can understand that. Yeah. Of course. They lose here's the for the new people, here's what happens when you file one of these affidavits with secretary of state. Two things happen, and I guess the best I can figure simultaneously, Terry, you get your freedom. They can't say no because it's your decision.
And it's based on fraud. That's second aspect. And they get exposed from top to bottom, and there's nothing they can do about it. Nothing. Except no. There is one thing. They can take the mask off and be open tyrants, and they know what happens to open tyrants. What we'd like to happen to them is is tall trees and short ropes.
[01:23:03] Unknown:
K.
[01:23:06] Unknown:
Well deserved as well. Oh, they've earned it. Boy, have they earned it.
[01:23:10] Unknown:
They've earned it. Yes.
[01:23:12] Unknown:
And I would like to Yeah. Oblige them. K? So, any anything else on that situation? I appreciate you letting us know about it.
[01:23:22] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I I think there's several other rumble channels, and Anne Vandersteel is another one that has been contacted. So they're gonna start getting that word out. Michael Jaco, that those kinds of people. Okay.
[01:23:37] Unknown:
Well, I should be in contact with miss Vandersteel here in the next day or two. So I will will ask her about it, and I may be on her Bryteon there on her show next week. So that was what was flowed in. We didn't agree to it. We didn't come up in our conversation, but I think that's what she had in mind. So I'll try and find out over the weekend if we're on or not, if it gets delayed. So, Terry, good to hear from you again. Anything else you wanted to bring forth? Yeah.
[01:24:06] Unknown:
Just one more thing because, and this is the change of subject. That's okay. You were talking about filing filing things with the IRS and making this affidavit and and all the declarations clear, you had also mentioned something about making sure you don't tell the IRS this is a filing because then there's a fee of $5,000
[01:24:27] Unknown:
in just a frivolous filing. Can you just make that clear? Yes. The other thing on the IRS notice, I gave you the notice to the state people notice the principal's notice to the agent Over on the IRS, cover letter at the top, you wanna put lawful legal notice, big capital letters. And then you wanna say this is not to be construed as a filing or this is not a filing or whatever because they have attempted early on to hit people with this little mysterious regulation they found to call frivolous filing penalty. I got three of them, ten thirty years ago, Terry, but they were only $500 then. They're 5,000 now. And, so you wanna put that so that they don't come back and and try and play play that game with you. We try and cut them off at the pass and preemptively, strike everywhere we can. Okay? That's the way to beat them. You don't beat them by getting dancing with them. You beat them by a preemptive strike.
K?
[01:25:34] Unknown:
Yeah. And that's on the cover letter?
[01:25:36] Unknown:
Yes. At the top of the cover letter.
[01:25:39] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:25:40] Unknown:
Okay. And, so that's just things that you know, our process here that we talk about and suggest to you is something that's just been developed over years. You know? For instance, Kaye, one of our old time listeners, still with us occasionally, was hell bent to file get this in the property records office. It was right during COVID. And, they they wouldn't let you come in. You had to deal everything through email or over the phone, and the girl she was dealing with says, no. We won't file this. And so she's on here, you know, like a wet hen. And and and as well, what else can I do? So, well, let's see. Who's the top legal official in the state? Attorney general. So that's where this switched. The secretary of state of your state, all they do is, incorporate businesses, collect fees, all that kind of stuff. They're not like the secretary of state of The United States.
And so, when you don't file with them, you go over and file with the AG on what I just suggested to you, and that's come out of just trial and error. Was that Mark? Did I hear Mark? Yes, sir. He's usually with us on Saturdays. I don't know where he is today. He's one of our, our paralegal guy. He's got a lot of responsibility taking care of his elderly parents right now. But, usually, he's with us. Very good source. He's been a paralegal for over twenty years, and adheres exactly to what he was getting ready to leave the country, and then he stumbled on our information. And, it has been a quite a revelation for him and everyone else for the most part.
So, alright. Did that get you, Terry? Yes. Thank you very much. You're very welcome. Where are you, by the way? What part of the country are you in? Oh, I'm up in the state of Maine. Oh, are you? May Boy, they have ruined they have ruined Maine, have they? Good lord. The things and stories I hear coming out of there are horrible.
[01:27:45] Unknown:
Yeah. It's pretty corrupt for sure. I'm sure sorry.
[01:27:49] Unknown:
Beautiful place. Yeah. It's very blue up here. Yes. Unfortunately. Beautiful to live here. But Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Lovely country. So let's see. Now, Todd, did you have anybody else or is there anybody else with questions or whatever? Some of you new folks Roger,
[01:28:06] Unknown:
well, first, if there's any other questions, I just wanted to read something, from your website and that I think would be very important for all the new people to hear if that's okay. Sure. Everybody, if you go on to the travel.state.gov website Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zone
[01:28:24] Unknown:
I'm sorry? Yeah. I'm I know where you're going now. Go ahead.
[01:28:28] Unknown:
Yep. You you obviously have the top, but I just wanted you to, dig dig around a little bit on there and kinda roll down to the bottom. And it's funny that this section is really out of place and seems to be the last one. And I'd like to read that to you, section three zero two of public law 94 dash two forty one. That's kind of a them telling us to do this. Let me read this to you. Any person who becomes a citizen of The United States solely by virtue of the provisions in section three zero one applying to those born in the or residing in the Northern Mariner Islands Oh, yeah. Yeah. May within six months after effective date of defection or within six months after reaching their age of 18, whichever is later. Now here's where it comes in becomes interesting.
Become a national but not a citizen of The United States by making a declaration under oath before any court established by the Constitution or the laws of The United States or any of the court of the record in the Commonwealth in the fall form as follows. I, Todd Lang, whatever, being duly sworn, hereby declare my intention to be a national, but not a citizen of The United States. It doesn't get much clearer than that, Roger. It doesn't get much it doesn't get much simpler either.
[01:29:53] Unknown:
And that's what we found. You know, one of our listeners found that. I didn't know it was down there. The paragraph you read above it about being in 18 in the Northern Marianna Islands, I've I've I don't know. Mariana Islands used to be hooked up with American Samoa. And see, that's something we haven't even talked about with you and your bunch is American Samoa yet. Okay?
[01:30:15] Unknown:
And it's very important. That's their little trick, but I digress.
[01:30:18] Unknown:
Yes. And I and and, again, back to what I was telling Austin earlier, all you're looking to do here is not necessarily what words you use, although, obviously, they're important, but that you rebut the presumption. That rebuts the presumption and is very accurate worded too. Now let me for the audience, I will tell let me see if I can recite it pretty close. What we wrote, and this the one that we have on the website is suggested. There's two paragraphs. First one is for the state department. Second one's for the IRS. And the first one says, I, Todd Lang, do solemnly swear under the penalty of perjury of the laws of The United States Of America, there's a reason that's in there, My intent to be a national with God given constitutionally protected capital r rights and not a person in voluntary servitude under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment.
Now there is no wiggle room there. None. K? The second paragraph says, as a national, I am identified at 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a as a nonresident alien, very deceptively. I think I put the word deceptive in there. Deceptively identified as a nonresident alien, nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment, and alien from the federal government. No wiggle room there either. You're rubbing their their you're rubbing their noses in the crap they left on the floor. K? That's what's happening just like with your puppy. So that's, people wanna get more verbose, and you've studied law all these years. And I'm in per se, a persona, and sui juries, and You wanna throw all this lat you don't need to do that.
Make it as clear and as simple as possible. One of those two would be the one I suggest. Either one you wanna use for whatever reason, fine with me. K?
[01:32:31] Unknown:
So does that answer that? Just so I would I would use Roger's way only because he's been doing this, huge generations over a hundred years, and I have not had one rebuttal
[01:32:41] Unknown:
from one of his students as he's the teacher of students. Don't give him the impression. I'm over a 100. I'm not. I'm just the third guy in a line of over a hundred years of dedicated historical and legal research into this issue. My teachers, god bless them, they just they were so focused on the tax issue, they couldn't see the big picture. And I got so aggravated with the tax issue, especially after fighting IRS in federal court, that, that I was looking for another way. And I kept looking. I kept looking. I kept looking. I did it the reverse, Tom, because I didn't understand it totally yet at that time. And so I was looking for things that I could do. I knew I was out of the system because the IRS told me I was when they took $35,000 from my house closing. K?
And, so I was kept looking for ways. What can I do to get back in this thing? Lick in those woods. Exactly. And and and if I can find it, does it work to get out of it? And so I went for years looking at it like that, thinking about it every day constantly. And, and then, I got a little voice. I'm I my wife passed away in Atlanta. I left Atlanta, moved back to Florida, family home, big family home, mother lived there by herself before she passed. And so, I was down there, and the little voice came to me in 02/2007, probably about in July or June 2007. And it had come to me previously years before, and and so it said you need to get out.
That's what it said. And I I I looked around and went, wow. Well, I where would I go? I don't I don't know any language. I don't don't have any connections anywhere else out of The US. And so I kinda put it on the back burner a few days or a week later, it came again. You need to get out. I learned when you hear it the second time, you need to heed it. Okay? And so I did. And I, had a friend that had property down in Argentina. He's one of my buddies from the record business. Used to work for The Beatles. And, so Riggins had some property down there. Fincas, they call it. That's Spanish for farm.
And they kept trying to get me to come down there. Told me how great it was, this and the other. I never had a passport, and I didn't follow-up on it. Well, now I had an anchor to go to. And I saw a TV program on Argentina in the on PBS, Globetreckers. And, I made up my mind to move after the show, quite frankly. And so, I had to go get a passport for the first time. Always had, you know, a scared interface with the federal government like everybody else. And, went to the post office, got both eleven and 82, came home, picked up the 11 because it's first time, and that was me. And at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen damn years.
That answer was two things. A statement that says, the state department, secretary of state of The United States Of America. And then down below it, on the first page of the written thing back then, they used to have a warning box. They hide it in the instructions now. We could probably go over the passport application. I can show you where they're doing this and why. But the warning box, like a warning box, black box warning, they call on pharmaceutical drugs and stuff, except they don't have the rectangle, the black box. They've just got warning in big capital letters. Used to be at the top of that first page, and then, of course, the application was at the total opposite on the opposite end, the fourth page. So they tried to get you separated from that just as far as they could.
And the reason is they've got to put the answer in the passport application because a passport we've got an eighteen eighteen thirty five Supreme Court site on this. Never been overturned. It's very difficult style. Do BRCVDR Ubudu two V DRC is the best I can come up with. You were too sweet. Okay. That too. Yeah. Back then, there was only one status. You know? There was just a state citizen. And so there wasn't any confusion as to the two. And it basically says the site that a passport is a document under the law of nations, Patel's law of nations, which is issued to present you to foreign countries. It is an ex parte document, which means it's a separate part, and that if the matter is of citizenship, that it what the papers that are in possession of the secretary, if admissible in a court of law affidavit, should be considered the higher and better evidence.
So it's not what your passport says. It's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary. K? Now early on, when I was still with John and Glenn, they had one of the guys lived in Nebraska had written the secretary of state in Nebraska to write him something that he was a Nebraska state citizen because we knew about these separations back then. He wrote him a beautiful letter, gold embossed on the sides with ribbons and hella everything but dancing girls neon lights on there. And, it said, this is to certify that so and so is a proud Nebraska state citizen.
Well, hell, he's waving it around. We all want you can still find that on the web somewhere. And, so we all wanted one of those. And I wrote to Florida, and the secretary of state wrote back and said, well, I'm sorry, man. I can't do that for you because the secretary of state of The United States has all final authority over all matters concerning citizenship. Now that there's the answer right there. But I was so green that I didn't have enough other information to plug it into where it made sense to me. But later on, twenty something years later, when I went to apply for that passport and read that passport application, that sentence, which had embedded in my subconscious, came back to me.
So there at the top, it says secretary of state of The United States Of America. That sentence comes back. He's the big guy. And then warning. You can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits, but you better not lie or we're gonna hit you with seven or eight sections of The United States code here. Well, they don't tell you to attach what for. They just say you can. Well, that was me knowing when I saw the word affidavit is when everything came together. Bam. Just like that. So that's how I stumbled into this. Now since we're on the passport application, let's go into it just a little bit.
[01:39:49] Unknown:
Actually, I'm important. Yes, Paul. There, we had a caller this morning. She she called in about nine 09:00 eastern, and I pulled her out into one other room, and I was talking to her. She is still working on the secretary of state resisting her on her passport application. So I think this would be a perfect time for her to come up. I believe her name is Mary. Gigi? Oh, Mary. Oh, Mary. She was on the other day, wasn't she? Yeah. She is. She called in this morning,
[01:40:22] Unknown:
and I was talking to her. Let me just finish this. We still got about twenty minutes or so here. So we got a little time. I wanna finish this up. So if you go to the passport application, the reason this information's in there is because of Watergate. After Watergate, they passed a piece of legislation called the Paperwork Reduction Act. And that dictated that every agency in the federal government that issues what's called an information gathering request, asking you questions has to take that paper that they're gonna put in the public, run it over to the OMB, have them go through a very strict stringent checklist procedure, and make sure that it's constitutional.
When they do that, they issue you an o m b number. You put the number on the form. Now you can issue it to the public. So it has to go through quite a stringent little, little security procedure here. So does the passport application. And so, they have to be telling the truth in there even though they go to great lengths to hide it. So if you go back to the, application itself now I'm gonna quote you what was the one that I did this they've changed the they've changed the whole passport oath since I started teaching this stuff, folks, to cover their damn slave and asses, what they did.
So, anyway, the old, oath says, I swear under penalty of perjury that I'm a citizen of The United States or parenthesis, a noncitizen national and have not since acquiring United States citizenship, parenthesis, US noncitizen nationality, violated any of the acts and conditions listed on page so and so in the instructions, parenthesis, unless explanatory statement is attached. Again, I swear under penalty of perjury, the foregoing is true and correct. Well, here, they've got these important issues, two different statuses. Twice.
They've changed. I think it's only in there once now. And right after that, if you violated any terms and conditions, well, what are those? Well, those are banging, you know, little boys or girls in Bangkok or getting caught in the drug trade or, arm smuggling or whatever else. But they tell you right there in the oath to attach an explanatory statement. Well, right up above it with these two statuses, they don't tell you jack squat. Now how they changed it, they've altered the wording. It's still basically the same. But now they have little four or five check boxes under the oath, and you've gotta check each one of those yes.
And the last one is, I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions. So that's what's going on. They had to cover their ass. They had to tell you that you're volunteering into slavery and can volunteer out with the warning box, attach affidavit or documents, but they're never gonna tell you what for. So that's why if the secretary of state is gonna issue you a document that's going to present you to foreign nations, the secretary of state, if it's correct, gotta have your correct political status in, doesn't it?
Well, they've got this rigged where if you don't, it's like a lobster trap. You guys are up there in Maine. It's like a lobster trap. The lobster get in real easy, but he can't get out. That's what this is. And so they hide how you can get out just as thoroughly as they can. And, so to get out now, that's why I said everything's under presumption because you've always agreed with it. Now you're and they add they don't ask you if you're a citizen of The United States. They presume you are. And then the only way to change that is to slip your affidavit in the package and tell them otherwise. That's why it works. They've got to recognize it. K? Now, and that was where I found the big deal, and the the big thing is that warning box.
So if you're talking to people, if you're gonna go do this passport thing you've heard now here's also important. The warning box is in not only the DS11, it's in the DS82 too. So when you, renew it, you you've got the same deal. Why is that in there? You think they wouldn't wanna put it in there both times, would you? No. Do you know why they do it? Because it's the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time. They've got to put it in there. K? So that's what's going on with the passport application. It's quite an important document. Yes, ma'am. Or is this Mary with the problem?
[01:45:11] Unknown:
It's Gigi.
[01:45:13] Unknown:
It's Gigi. Well, you told us about yours. They seized yours.
[01:45:17] Unknown:
Yeah. They seized mine. So I'm wondering if I should still do the affidavit and,
[01:45:24] Unknown:
just to have it on record. They didn't revoke it. They just seized it. You you got a very complicated situation, Gigi. I'm sorry to say Yeah. What I know about it. And, but I you could apply again, but I I you need to go back and get this straightened out with these damn sheriffs who are screwing with you. That's the first thing you need to do Yeah. To unlock all of this other crap.
[01:45:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I'm in the process of doing right now. Well, alright. I want you to write me a letter. Hold on. I want you to write an email
[01:46:02] Unknown:
to Mark. Okay? Mhmm. Just to fill him in on the gap here. He may be able to help you, our paralegal guy. And his Okay. Email address is strawmanstrawmanStrawman.@mark,allcaps,.com. Atmarkallcaps@Mark,allcaps. Don't have to be in caps. Just mark, all caps, dot com. Okay? And just to say you're new Straw me. Roger, brief him on your situation, and then we can get him on here and hopefully discuss it. Mark, is that you? Roger, I have something for her too. Alright. Hold on. I thought I heard Mark. Who's the male voice? Alright.
So that's what I want you to do, Gigi. Just briefly tell him you got these problems and get that in his lap so he'll be somewhat aware of it.
[01:46:57] Unknown:
Maybe he can help you out. And that's [email protected]?
[01:47:01] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. [email protected].
[01:47:10] Unknown:
All caps dot com. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Now, Mirka, what Mirka, what what's your injection here? Well, it's not just for Gigi, but for every all new students. It's been very effective when we send our affidavit in quote, which is the affidavit with the cover letter to the secretary of state by itself before doing a passport. So they don't have any issues just in case there's something that they don't remember or Yep. You know, something in the background that they don't know about, that you can get your passport without any issues, unless you have a felony, of course. There's, I know that that came up just recently and that that needs to be cleared up before, you know, you try to do the passport because they might not give it to you.
[01:48:00] Unknown:
But see if you can file it that out. But you can file an affidavit at any time. They can't say no. So that's a condition precedent. So if they've got anything later down the line, you could say, well, hey. Those don't apply to me. They're out of the code of federal regulations. I'm already a national. I sent you the paperwork. Here's a copy of it and a copy of the return receipt showing it was signed for. So that's your you what your fallback position is. So you go ahead and do that, you know, this week weekend mail at Monday. But, you know, that's fine. Yeah. I already have. They they they they they held your passport.
Who's got it? The passport office or the damn sheriff's?
[01:48:41] Unknown:
The passport in DC. The the ones that I have to send it to, it says right here, it says the depart Department of State has denied your 01/16/2024 application for US passport pursuant to 22 CFR fifty one sixty b one and or fifty one sixty b nine, and has revoked US passport book, which was the book that I already had Okay. And US passport card number, both issued to you on 10/04/2022 along with any other valid US passport issued to you pursuant to 22 CFR 51.62.
[01:49:25] Unknown:
So they're not holding your passport. They rejected your application.
[01:49:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It says these regulations provide that the department may refuse to issue a passport and may revoke a passport when an applicant or barrier is the subject of a federal, state, or local warrant of arrest for a felony. There you go. So you gotta go back and clean that up with the sheriffs.
[01:49:47] Unknown:
You're gonna have to do that. Okay.
[01:49:50] Unknown:
K? It it wasn't with the sheriffs. It was with the court.
[01:49:54] Unknown:
What because they have the court on. Okay. Where wherever the problem is, you really need to find a way to go back and address that and see if you can get it straightened out. That's the log jam of all your problems right there. K? But she should put in her affidavit no matter what. Oh, yes. Send the affidavit in. That shouldn't stop you from doing that. But but get with Mark and see on the situation with the court situation if he's got any suggestions or may can help you out. Okay?
[01:50:22] Unknown:
Okay. I'll do that. And then I have one last question. So once I get that straightened out, send out the affidavit, when it comes to the passport and the passport card, is there a difference in the pay? Like, I know when you apply for a passport, like, 265
[01:50:42] Unknown:
Well, if you expedite
[01:50:43] Unknown:
it well, if you expedite it and do the whole nine yards, it's probably that much now. You don't are you doing any international traveling? You said you used to be a stewardess. Right?
[01:50:53] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:50:54] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. If you ever do that Yeah. I am gonna be doing some international traveling, like, towards the end end of the year. Okay. Well, then you need to get a book. You gotta have a book to get a visa stamp. But if you were just gonna stay in The US, you can do it on a $30 card. And many of our students just carry the card. That's the only thing they carry is ID.
[01:51:16] Unknown:
Okay. Roger. Alright. Yes. One more thing for her. She and as soon as her, affidavit hits the mail, she needs to send out her notices as soon as possible to all local Yeah. You're missing people like I went over earlier with, Austin.
[01:51:34] Unknown:
Your secretary of state, your whichever no. No. No. Your attorney general, which is that little Jew gal up there. Right? Little vegetarian. Yeah. I'm playing an asshole. Yeah. The her. And, and whoever your local people are. And, yeah, you might send that to, cc the court also. And cc the court. Okay. Well, you could. That's where the problem seems to lie.
[01:52:00] Unknown:
Yeah. It's with them, and they're out of business. They're just
[01:52:03] Unknown:
The court's out of business?
[01:52:05] Unknown:
I already yeah. I did a, I pulled up I did a what is it? They're doing business with the who is those people? I can't think right now. But it stated that they're out of business, and they're doing business as under someone under another business. That's a court? And so I was Michigan?
[01:52:29] Unknown:
They're not under the Michigan umbrella of courts and judicial stuff?
[01:52:34] Unknown:
No. And I called the main court in that county, and they said, oh, you have to go to that court. I called the court clerk to see if I can get a printout of, you know, all of the, transcripts. And they said, we wouldn't have them. You have to go back to that court. But when I pulled up the, that business site where they have to register their business, it stated that they're out of business, and they're operating under another Oh my god. Which is on a document.
[01:53:07] Unknown:
Gigi, is it totally confusing? Please write an email to Mark. Give him a little brief background. Tell him you're new to the program, and you wanna see if there's anything he might can do to help you out in this complex situation.
[01:53:23] Unknown:
Roger, I can help her I can help her with her notices that she'd like, to reach out to me on Telegram. Okay. Do you have Telegram on your cell phone? Today?
[01:53:32] Unknown:
Merca. Do you have Telegram? It's on Merca. Yeah. On your cell phone. Hi, Merca. Do You have tell Telegram on your cell phone? Do you have Telegram? I do. Alright. Well, national status freedom. Three words. Separated.
[01:53:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm in there. Okay. Yeah. I was just already in there. I joined it.
[01:53:52] Unknown:
Alright. Well, send a high send a report to you. I'm in there, Martha. Just say, there's a g t. Okay. Alright. You got that. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Now did you
[01:54:02] Unknown:
referring to Dun and Bradstreet's website where you went to and found out There it is. Yep. Dun and Bradstreet. There you go.
[01:54:10] Unknown:
Yep. I couldn't get the name out. Thank you so much. But that was there. That's where I I've never heard of a court going out of business. Anyway, write Mark an email if you would, and let's get it started that way. K? Because you're out of my out of my Valleywick right now. K? So, Okay. No problem. Alright, Gigi. And we'll talk to you again soon. I have a feeling a bunch of you are gonna be Thank you. And, Myrna, I'll reach out to you in the telegram. Okay. Great. Alright. Hey. We got a couple of minutes left, and then I've got an abbreviated weekend. So anybody else got any questions real quick? Roger Bruce. Yes. Alright. Hold on. Yes. I'll get to you a second. Bruce?
[01:54:52] Unknown:
Yes. They probably shut down that court because it was so corrupt.
[01:54:56] Unknown:
Okay. Next. Yes. About that. Who's the gas guy, please?
[01:55:01] Unknown:
This is Jeff from Pennsylvania.
[01:55:03] Unknown:
Hi, Jeff.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
Hi. Hey, Roger, everybody. This is my third time calling in. And last time I called in was, like, early mid July, and I was still waiting my, return of my passport, booking card. Yes, sir. And my birth certificate. Well, I finally got all three. They were separate mailings. Yes, sir. But I wanted to know if am I expecting to get a copy or a stamped copy of my affidavit of citizenship evidence back as proof Depends on if it
[01:55:30] Unknown:
it depends on if it was original. Evidently, they will return an original, but they keep a copy. You if you wanna make sure it's in there, you can do what's called a privacy act request. It's similar to a FOIA, except you're asking about your own personal information. Ask them, what, what, if there's any documents pertaining to citizenship evidence in my file, stuff like that. Very specific questions. And we've never had anybody that did that that that didn't come back that the stuff was in there. K? So if you're antsy about that, it they very I don't know if we've ever seen a specific example that they didn't do the right thing. Okay?
[01:56:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Because I've heard of people that like, I think it was about a week ago, I heard a guy that was talking about he got his birth certificate back, and it was in folded in a copy of his affidavit. And it was, like, entrauded. And I knew that was assurance. The reason I keep bringing this up is because I'm anxious to get my notices out, but I don't wanna proceed.
[01:56:32] Unknown:
Or you no. No. Don't you you that done you've already did you send a single copy to the naked affidavit to the secretary of state first?
[01:56:41] Unknown:
No. That went into
[01:56:43] Unknown:
with my out passport application with the policy. Here's where here's where that becomes important. Because if you've done that, they you're already a national. Okay? And all you're doing when you get the passport is just confirming that on the document they give you. So that's why for everybody listening, even though it seems, like a nuance, that's important. And they can't see enough copies of these things up there in DC to my thinking. And now you've cleared yourself from any other ambiguities that might come up if you had some baggage as a citizen of The United States. Now that's clear. So, Jeff, you, it sounds like to me you're alright. Okay?
What what do you want to do? Make sure your affidavit is in there?
[01:57:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I just, I just followed the instructions about, sending it with the app. I can always if you would advise sending another. I made five known copies that one day before I You you don't need to do that if you've got your passports
[01:57:50] Unknown:
back. If you're antsy that the affidavit's in there, do a privacy request. I think you'll find it's there. Otherwise, you're you're good to go.
[01:58:00] Unknown:
Does anybody have a phone number to check, with that that, privacy request?
[01:58:05] Unknown:
We go just because it's not a phone number. It's a go on the Internet and put in privacy requests. It's very simple to do. Okay. I'd go under Department of State and check that out? Well, yeah. And I said It would be that any any agency would be the same procedure. Brent, what do you got, buddy?
[01:58:23] Unknown:
He's all in. See over his affidavit. I sent mine back in in, '29 to not copy up the back. Big deal.
[01:58:36] Unknown:
Okay? I wouldn't worry about it, Jeff. But, yeah, if you Put your hair. About it, go do a privacy request, and they'll show you what's in your folder. K?
[01:58:45] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you very much. You're very welcome.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's it. I'll try to look Alright. Just hold on because the show's about to end. I'm gonna tell everybody hello bye bye, and we'll see you on Monday. Hopefully, John will be with us. Hope you got something out of today's show. Ciao. So let Paul dump us off here. And now Mirka's got something. Yes, Mirka.
[01:59:08] Unknown:
Roger, like you always say, me,
[01:59:12] Unknown:
if they've it helps them sleep better at night to send in their affidavit, you know, file it with the secretary of state directly with him. So Yeah. Whatever. I would do that. But, you know, I I started with this with just sending an affidavit in with a passport application. We had no idea about all these other processes and what could go wrong with certain people and things like that. They've just come up along the way. When one of them comes up, we try and incorporate it into the procedure. And from then forward, that aspect or whatever was wrong is taken care of. So that's how we've arrived at all these explanations I've given you today by trial and error.
Alright. It's always very effective to send the affidavit in first. So Yeah. Probably. Always recommend. Can't see too many of them. Apparently, I'd like to see 10,000,000 of them go across Rubio's desk in one one damn day. Yes. Yes, ma'am.
[02:00:05] Unknown:
Hey, Hey, Marka. This is Gigi. Can you, put the Telegram group in the chat again before we close?
[02:00:12] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll put it in right now. Thank you. Good enough.
[02:00:16] Unknown:
Now anybody else got anything for me today?
[02:00:20] Unknown:
One quick note. Yesterday, we were speaking about, a book entitled The 100 and the 100 Roles. Yeah. Took some doing, but I was able to secure a copy of it. It's in the books folder, in docs.exposethematrix.com.
[02:00:40] Unknown:
So Okay. Go to the all you're actually updating.
[02:00:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Thank you. There's two people publish here on that one.
[02:00:52] Unknown:
Sigh. Well, let me let me open it up and see. Downloads. Downloads. Downloads. Downloads. You see, downloads. The 100 and the 100 rolls. It is, 344 pages. It is a scan of an original and came from the Trent University Library.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
It's I I don't know if when you have a PDF like that, if there's a map in there, is that gonna be able to show you that? Because it folds out to about three times the size of the page. But it's it's only from what I read about it, Paul, it's only in the '63 edition. The original 1930 didn't have it in there, and then they're they're publishing a new one this year. And it appears like it's not gonna have it in there either. It says,
[02:02:13] Unknown:
that it is from the Burt Franklin Research and Source Works series number 19, and it includes, a number of illustrations and two maps.
[02:02:32] Unknown:
Cool.
[02:02:33] Unknown:
That means it's a 63. I wonder how that's gonna copy that full it's a fold out map. You know, it's in the very back of the book, and it what's really nice about that map is yeah. It it, it shows you who who had control over the land in, I think, December, December.
[02:02:55] Unknown:
That's all the people that had an estate in the land.
[02:02:59] Unknown:
Well, it's the ecclesiastical. It was king. It was peoples, broken down, I think, into those three. Well, the the twelves
[02:03:11] Unknown:
that year, the, the king owned all the land. He dispensed it out to his nobles. That's why they had an estate in the land. And for those of you who are new, estate, real estate, estate means less than true ownership. Because the king owned the land. He gave you an estate in it. Well, they show it as ecclesiastical as well. So the church owned the whole bunch of stuff. That means. I just know that's the principle it was all founded on.
[02:03:38] Unknown:
Remember when you get King Henry, the ace, he, he takes it all away from him.
[02:03:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it was his land.
[02:03:46] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:03:47] Unknown:
The, map is If you don't give the king a divorce, you you you lose your land.
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Or a or a or a male child.
[02:03:57] Unknown:
Okay. Hey, Roger. The map I had a question. Is there.
[02:04:01] Unknown:
The map is there. It's on page three thirty five, and it shows what lands were in the king's hands, in the hands of ecclesiastics, and in the hands of landlords.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Okay. You meant in the church? This church was still on land back then. K. Gotcha. Okay. You had a question, Samuel?
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Regarding Al Adask. Now he was an attorney from my understanding. Right? No. No. He was a roofer. Maybe I got the wrong Al at Aspen, and I knew quite a bit about him back then, but he did the anti shyster and Correct. The same way. Understanding he was also a Texas attorney. But Well, I think he might be wrong on that. Okay?
[02:04:46] Unknown:
So That might come after the divorce. I don't know because he got very I did I did shows with him divorce. I did shows with him for over a year, and he never mentioned that.
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So wherever you get that from is correct.
[02:04:59] Unknown:
He Al was a licensed attorney? No. You are correct. He was a roofer. I spent three days with him with James Schroeder and Ed Petroski in Tankers Bank. He was a roofer. He got caught in a fam he got caught in a family court deal. That's what launched him. He wasn't an attorney.
[02:05:18] Unknown:
Okay. Now the other question is, he so he and he published the anti shyster. Right? Correct. And didn't he write a paper that was called, as a re, a rebuttal to the IRS
[02:05:34] Unknown:
to call 66 questions? It's 66 questions. It wasn't a letter, I think. There's 66 questions. Well, it's on our website.
[02:05:43] Unknown:
Yeah. And I I copied that, Roger, and it's 27 pages long. And there's more like 330 questions.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
Okay. Well, all I knew is 66, so you're ahead of me. Yeah. I thought I might have been in the Modela machine or something because I always heard 66. That's what I remembered as well. That Well, that's what he told me on the air. I wrote him a letter with 66 questions. I never heard from him again.
[02:06:11] Unknown:
It's on the Yeah. The piece that Paul has on the site, I downloaded that and had it printed out. It's 27 pages, and it's I I did a quick count. I see about 230 yes or no questions in that. Alright.
[02:06:26] Unknown:
Anyway, that's what you wanna do. You wanna you flood them with questions that they can't answer or don't want to. And the reason for that is because your administrative file is a court of record. And should they ever try and prosecute you on anything, you can bring any of the stuff in that folder in, and it bypasses the rules of evidence. They can't keep it out if it's in that folder. One more question.
[02:06:50] Unknown:
Did he do a sixty minutes interview?
[02:06:53] Unknown:
Not to my knowledge.
[02:06:55] Unknown:
Phil Pyle. I wonder if I'm I'm I'm getting Yes.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Yes. You did. Yes. Oh, Al did?
[02:07:02] Unknown:
Oh, I Yes. Vaguely remember that. Some they short sheeted him, made him look like an idiot or something, didn't they? And we were all shocked. We couldn't do it. They ambushed him. Okay. Was that on sixty minutes? What is
[02:07:18] Unknown:
Well, what I found I haven't watched him yet, but there's three pieces regarding that. And in one of his his sixty minutes, it appears. In fact, he might have done two. Not sure yet. But Well, they If you use Yandex to do the search, Aladask sixty minutes,
[02:07:38] Unknown:
you'll come up with a number of hits. And I haven't had a chance to see those yet, but it was not a flattering interview or the conclusions. I'll just leave it at that. You can imagine. Yeah. They doubled down on the sovereign citizen thing, I think, after that. I guess. I don't remember. Bunch of lying bastards. They're scared to death of what we got. And I'll tell you one of the real important things Al did give to me on those shows, and that's this presumption of law thing. I didn't understand that, and it's the answer to all of it, really. Big part.
So yeah. Somebody If if you search Adask's
[02:08:12] Unknown:
law if you search Adask's law, it's not found. It was a treasure trove. He had years and years of oh, about every two to five days, he would post a very insightful article, either his own musings or, you know, observations about the news and political events, etcetera. And it's scrubbed. How does a guy go about finding
[02:08:36] Unknown:
that? Is there any way to do that through the Wayback Machine? I'm not that Why don't you use I tried Xandex. It might come up under Xandex. They may just have it blocked in the algorithm.
[02:08:46] Unknown:
Could be. Yeah. But, Al, you know, it was it was a spectacular resource. It was just article after article of relevant information
[02:08:58] Unknown:
made you think think I'm I'm sorry you've gotten so, you know, standoffish with me. I thought we had great shows and a great relationship, and we were going to as I said, the other day, July 31, we were supposed to launch a a a duo like like Paul and I here. And he backed out the last minute. I had everything set up already, so I just rolled on and said, well, I guess I'll do show solo. And here we are. I'm I'm trying to get would he be roughly, Roger? I don't know. Do you know how old he might be? Well, I'm sure he's around my age, around the late seventies. Somebody the other day said he's not in very good health, so I don't know about that. I'm sorry to hear that. Really, I like Al a lot.
[02:09:44] Unknown:
The searching I've been doing puts him if I got the right Al, I'd ask, puts him at around 79.
[02:09:49] Unknown:
I don't think he really meant spell it.
[02:09:52] Unknown:
A l a d a s k, Al Adask.
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A l a d a s k. Right.
[02:10:01] Unknown:
I'll do That's Did you ever meet her personally?
[02:10:04] Unknown:
No. I never did.
[02:10:07] Unknown:
Well, I spent three days working with Jane and Ed and Tanker and one other guy. Anyway, I would guess him to be five to ten years our senior.
[02:10:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's 79. Anyway, the what we got the other days, he's not doing real well, and I'm sorry to hear that. So just but Al added on for the for the audience who may not know about Al, he he he did a very significant thing back in the nineties called man and other animals. And I can tell you the whole story, you know, if you want, but that was his claim to fame and where he got a lot of his notoriety. Julie?
[02:10:54] Unknown:
Yep. I found something, when I googled him or not googled him. I used Yandex. It's privacy estimate and IRS anti Schyster. Critical
[02:11:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Is that is is that what you're looking for? Well, I don't know. That would be one of the articles out of this I was looking monthly magazine.
[02:11:14] Unknown:
I was looking for the website called adaskslaw, no space, just adaskslaw.
[02:11:22] Unknown:
Is that .com or .net? Or I honestly don't remember.
[02:11:26] Unknown:
It's been years since I've been to it because I haven't been able to find it.
[02:11:31] Unknown:
Okay. Let me see. May have just stopped paying the royalties on the website. I I don't know anything about it. Okay? But I know he's a good guy. Very likely. Yeah. The year and a half we did together, and I I thought he was a friend. I I still think I consider him a friend, but I wish him well. So there you go.
[02:11:49] Unknown:
The the, anti shyster took on another name too after about ten years. I forget the name of that. Yeah. K. I never According to the research I've done lately, you know, I knew a lot about him in the nineties, but I never had any of his real information and stuff. And that's why I wanted to Okay. Download the 66 questions. But then when I get to 66 questions, I got a question. It's 230.
[02:12:15] Unknown:
For the for the audience, I'm gonna give you the background on man and other animals because you most of you that are new, probably never heard this. Al was like I was in Atlanta. He had a high profile. They had a pretty large patriot group there. He was kind of the spokesman for it. He was running this anti shyster on the side because it was Dallas in a large group, same as our Atlanta group, which Brent was a member of, by the way, the guy that came on a minute ago. And, so, a lot of the traveling roadshows, Rommel School of Law, Rightway Law, all these guys, they come to our cities. And so he and I knew a bunch of people together because we'd cross paths with them through this situation.
And so, what happened with, with Al was that there was a company there in Texas that made some kind of real high quality colloidal silver. They're still in business, I think. I think I heard something about them recently. And so, they had the business in a trust, topical for us here. And so the feds had been coming at them, but they were using the state of Texas to go after them. And they were using the assistant attorney general of the state of Texas. Don't I don't remember his name. Don't even know if I ever knew it. Anyway, he had been handling personally the prosecution of the colloidal silver people in their trust.
At the last minute, they brought Al in as the trustee on the trust. So that automatically enjoined him in the case. And so Al went and read a bunch of the they had spent 500 $55,000,000 at this point going after them or some ridiculous amount of money. And, so Al went back and read all the original legislation, and he found in the original food and food and drug act, it says, there's a sentence in there that says man and other animals. And so he went to had his first meeting with the DA, the assistant attorney general of Texas, and, he presented this defense. And he says, I'm I'm not an animal. I'm made in god's image.
And they folded up their tents and dropped the case. After five years, $5,000,000 personally prosecuted by the assistant attorney general, and that one little phrase, I'm not an animal. I'm made in God's image. They've got no offense for that. That's an absolute affirmative defense, and they went away. And it was, of course, huge news all over the patriot community. Yes, Sam?
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Oh, I what I read, I wanna see if this is correct. He they they tried to fine him, the AG, $25,000 a day, and they put him in jail for up to a year.
[02:15:14] Unknown:
I don't know if they put him in jail. They might have threatened it. But regardless, I I I mean, I've heard him tell the story. I'm just relating basically what he said. So, yeah, the man and other animals defense still valid. Okay. Thanks to a roofer. Thanks to a roofer. So anybody got any questions? Hey, Samuel.
[02:15:36] Unknown:
Samuel. What I recall in hearing many of his times recounting the stories, I don't think there was any jail time in that whole thing with the colloidal silver. It was just threatened fines that he avoided by the defense that he put forward of man or other animals. I'm not an animal. I think what you may be conflating is he did spend time in the bokeefe over the family court problem, and that's what turned a roofer
[02:16:02] Unknown:
into a law dog A family. Because it pissed him off. I've often said they always make their own the their own worst enemies. Look at me.
[02:16:11] Unknown:
Well, what I read is that he was in
[02:16:13] Unknown:
maximum security. So that wouldn't be a law thing. I wouldn't think with a family court. I I never heard that. He never said anything about being in jail to me or on the shows.
[02:16:23] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
Alright. Alright. So anybody else got anything for Roger? Todd, I wanna welcome you and your bunch.
[02:16:31] Unknown:
And Will Thank you so much. You're a great, great man. I appreciate you so much. Oh, well,
[02:16:37] Unknown:
already. We'll be back Monday. Hopefully, John will get with us at Monday at some point. No, old friend. Been around since the early days of this program being on the air or the information being put out there. So, y'all have a great weekend. Hopefully, everybody will be do doing good. And, we'll be back with the no great, no nuclear bombs going off or any of that crap for the next seventy two hours, whatever it is. And, I'll see y'all on Monday then. Okay? My favorite direction. My my favorite two hours of the day. And I'm so glad, Todd, that we crossed paths with you and your bunch there. And what'd you say there's, like, 25 of your folks listening today?
[02:17:22] Unknown:
I think we're at about 30 right now all Wow. Talking on Discord. We're gonna do a live on Discord right after this. Okay.
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Well, you folks, welcome. If it's, if it's confusing to you, this is where you get your questions answered here. We're here six days a week, obviously, two hours. And, we love each and every one of you, and we don't want any of you with a question that doesn't go unanswered. Now, I can't promise we'll always be able to answer all of them, but we get most of them. So welcome. Be in beneath us, and, hopefully, we'll see a bunch of you again Monday. And if you're working, we'll see you maybe Saturday. And if you are working, you can always check the the recordings and the, the podcast. Day show's always posted.
Thanks to Paul.
[02:18:11] Unknown:
So, okay, guys. Anybody else got anything? Hey. Before you go, Roger Yes, sir, Bob? Before you go, Roger, not that you need to be involved in this, but just to put a point I don't know. Punctuation on it. Todd, you and your fellows, just remember this one thing. It's probably the nugget I've gotten out of this whole deal for the last ten years. There's only two forms of law. Two forms, man's law or God's law. Yep. And when you understand that, everything becomes simple. When you know the fundamentals
[02:18:43] Unknown:
Yep. It simplifies everything. When you can break it down, you lose sight of that. Or or situation. You're way ahead of the game. Okay? And this is what my my law teacher, John Benson, used to tell us constantly. The battle we fight today is the battle that's been fought from the beginning of time. Lex Rex versus the common law. Man's law, King's law versus God's law. That's the battle we're in right now. Same old shit. Different day. K?
[02:19:16] Unknown:
Very important. Can make look out to me? Pardon me? Can Mitch, reach out to me? This is Gigi. Is she still on? Marca. Marca.
[02:19:27] Unknown:
Marca, reach out. I'm sorry. Marca, reach out to Gigi. She's very, anal about this. I understand that. Not being Your stomach's growling. Okay. Yes. There's stuff. Okay. Somebody else. Yeah. I know. I understand. I've been in those situations. It'll all work out, but you gotta go back to wherever the root of the problem is in this court situation. Mark, hopefully Mark can help you. Hopefully Mark can help you. Okay? So, okay. Anyone else? Yes. Yes. Mar, Julie. Yes.
[02:19:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi, Roger. I'm gonna do the passport also, and it's the first time I'm doing it changing over to a national. Do I fill out the DS11 or the DS82?
[02:20:09] Unknown:
Well, yeah, that's a good question. Have you do you have a passport already?
[02:20:14] Unknown:
I do, but it's under United States citizen. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You just send,
[02:20:19] Unknown:
do the renewal. It's it's probably got some time left on it. Right?
[02:20:23] Unknown:
Till, like, August 15.
[02:20:25] Unknown:
Oh, not much time. Okay. Well, send it to them. If it's got usually, if it's still an open passport, they will. That's a very short time, just two weeks. Normally, they would send that back to you immediately in case you had travel plans. And, otherwise in that, you just send them that. You'll have to include that passport in there. I doubt if they punch it because if you're gonna do it immediately, it'll still be open. If it's expired, they triple punch it, you know, with one of those old three holes in it. Yep. And, otherwise than that, they'll send it back to you, and, you shouldn't have any problems.
[02:21:07] Unknown:
So I do so I do the d s 11 or the d s 82?
[02:21:11] Unknown:
Let's see. That's a very good question, isn't it? Because you are a new person. You're a new legal person that's submitted. But I'd say to use the d s 82 on the renewal. The warning box is in that too so you can submit the application in there too or the, affidavit. Okay. So you don't you don't nobody on you just call things so I have to do the d s 11 because something No. No. With lady No. We've never done it that way. I understand why you're asking and the principal that's involved. Yep. But you've already got a passport that will clear the way if there was any crap with doing a new one. That'll clear the way because it's already cleared the way on the passport you've got. All you're doing is telling me, switching my status here.
Yep.
[02:21:55] Unknown:
Perfect. And then I could just go to any, like, Staples store and just get a photo for a passport.
[02:22:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That or is it some post offices have them or if it's a renewal, you don't have to sign it in front of an administrating official. And you don't have to include your birth certificate. Okay? Okay. Alright. Go get them, girl. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Who else has got some something? Wow. Okay. Well, I think this is Mary Anne. Hello, Mary Anne. How are you?
[02:22:30] Unknown:
Did we speak yesterday? I'm good. I'm good. Our third No. We actually were emailing back and forth last Oh, I think two Saturdays ago. Your passport.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
Right. And the Buffalo Correct. Yes, ma'am.
[02:22:46] Unknown:
Correct. And I actually sent it with your help and Larry's help and Mark's help and Mirka's help. It was wonderful. First of all, I wanted to thank you for that. Yes, ma'am. And I did send the the letter to them, and I just got a response yesterday. Uh-huh. And
[02:23:05] Unknown:
I gotta tell you, I don't know if there's a mark on my back. I don't know. I have to understand what's going on. Well, if if you got a letter sent me. Well, if you got a letter back, you'll be the first one that didn't just get their documents back. So let's see what they got up their sleeve.
[02:23:20] Unknown:
Okay. They did send me back my passport book and my because I sent everything back to them along with the the affidavit, which I had originally sent to them. I did do a d s 11. And now they're sending this letter back, and they're telling me that Oh, oh, oh,
[02:23:39] Unknown:
you had a passport already, and you went and applied again with a d s 11, exactly what Julie was asking. Is that right? Correct. You didn't do a renewal form?
[02:23:52] Unknown:
I did not because I had done that previously, and they told me that I needed to do a new passport.
[02:23:58] Unknown:
Oh. To do the new They've never told
[02:24:00] Unknown:
new passport application.
[02:24:02] Unknown:
They've never told us to anybody that to my knowledge. Go ahead.
[02:24:06] Unknown:
Okay. Well, now they sent everything back to me, and they said that the original data printed in my passport is what I had provided previously. And now they're telling me to apply for a new passport.
[02:24:22] Unknown:
Did they keep your money? Did they keep your funds? Oh, yes. Cashed a check and everything. Yes. Mhmm. Well, I'd write them back and say, what what about this? You want me to apply again? You've already got my application fee. Correct? Because they didn't tell you you couldn't apply. They just kept your money. You gotta contact them and say, what about the fees you kept? K? That's the first thing I do.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
Okay. Okay.
[02:24:49] Unknown:
But they told you you could apply for a passport again.
[02:24:53] Unknown:
They told you you could apply for a passport again. Mary? They told you you could apply for a Yes. And I already did
[02:24:57] Unknown:
So, Mary, can I ask a question? You, applied initially. You had a passport that was not expired. You filled out the d eighty two renewal. Correct? And that was two years ago that I had done that? And they told you you had to come back and apply for a you said do a d s 11. See, that's what I heard, Roger, that if you're changing status, you gotta do a d s 11. That's never applied to anybody since we've been doing that. If that's,
[02:25:25] Unknown:
applicable now, it's brand new. Well, I think I have a mark on my back, Roger. Well, I you you may you may even because sometimes there's black sheep. Julie, I would everybody, I would contact them and say, I'm doing a status change on my upcoming application. I mean, they they've got to have you use the renewal form because that's where the warning box Mhmm.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
Excuse me.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger. Well, I am going to do it you know, I am I'm persevering. I am absolutely Yeah. Just going to stand my ground on it and go back again to them. And, also, should I actually put in the new letter, what is my next step for administrative appeal? Do you think that's smart to do that or don't do that yet? There there is no appeal unless they tell you they're gonna keep the funds.
[02:26:15] Unknown:
If they tell you they're gonna keep the funds,
[02:26:18] Unknown:
now you want a administrative appeal.
[02:26:21] Unknown:
Okay. Alright? Alright.
[02:26:24] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Because I did I did take a picture of my, application. So I am going to forward that along with everything else and just address their letter and just put it back in their court again. What I have ninety days.
[02:26:41] Unknown:
Funds. What about my funds that you have kept while you're telling me to go and apply again? Are you gonna keep those funds too?
[02:26:50] Unknown:
I you were breaking in and out, Roger. What was that again? About the funds that you have kept
[02:26:56] Unknown:
from the previous application? You're telling me to apply again. Am I gonna pay again and you deny me and keep those funds too?
[02:27:06] Unknown:
Okay. Got it? Put that in the letter?
[02:27:10] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Pin their ass to the wall on it. They got your money. That they're telling you that you're cleared. Well, if you got my money, why don't you issue me a passport on the funds you've already cashed? What are you asking me to apply again? 100%. Got it?
[02:27:26] Unknown:
Exactly.
[02:27:27] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:27:28] Unknown:
See what see how they respond. Yep. I'm definitely gonna do that. We've hardly ever Yeah. We're seeing a week what happens. Okay. We've hardly ever had problems with the passport,
[02:27:37] Unknown:
except for a few of these bluff letters. Who was saying Roger there a second ago mail?
[02:27:42] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. It's David with nationalstatus.com.
[02:27:46] Unknown:
Hey, Dave.
[02:27:47] Unknown:
Hey. Hey. I just wanna give a reminder
[02:27:51] Unknown:
to both quotes. Hold hold on a second. Thank you, Roger. Okay. You're welcome, Mary Anne. Go ahead, Dave.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna give everyone a reminder about nationalstatus.com. It's, you know, it's very comprehensive, but it's designed for new folks. And it has training courses. It has step by step for passport notices, and the affidavit, of course. So, just wanna give that, as a resource to everybody. It's helpful to do it on your own time
[02:28:24] Unknown:
and to learn from the site as well. Okay. We've got a number of resources these people know. Thank you for reaching out, dude. Take they've taken their own time and effort and done these things. So there's the the Merc is there. Dave and Kaye is there. We got stuff on the website. The people have contributed that you could use to inform others, and there's a number of resources for you. Thank you. Everybody has done that. Yep. Okay. Again, if you would, for me, I don't ever ask y'all to do too much usually. If you would write an email to chasegeyser@infowars.
I'm gonna give you his email address again. And just you can either include a link to God's trunk card, which you can find over in the new student section. It's very easy to locate just a little bit down from the top. If you wanna put that in there, you can. I sent it to him earlier. The subject matter line was God's trump card with three stars on each side and very important, I m p t. So, anyway, if you wouldn't mind dropping Chase a letter to pay attention to Roger Sales' information, he's got all the answers you're looking for. Something to that effect, and we may just get our little butts on Infowars one of these days. We do that.
I would imagine these guys I don't know if it'll bring them kill them, but it'll damn sure bring them to their knees. I can promise you that.
[02:29:51] Unknown:
They can't do that. Roger, we got three stars. God Trump card and then I n p t for important. And and you could you didn't you were about to save a chase line again.
[02:30:01] Unknown:
Yeah. It was three stars, God's Trump card, three stars after that, and then I put very important after that in capital letters. That was in the subject line. But if you can just write Chase and just tell him you need to pay attention to this and please pass it to Harrison also. These are the two guys with real open minds. And Harrison, if you watch him often, he's very bright and he listens. When he's got people on there telling him stuff, he listens. He doesn't interrupt him like Alex does. And, so I think he's, he's very educated, good in history, and all that.
So just drop Chase, an email. It's brief, short, nudge him. Nudge, nudge, nudge. That's what we're trying to get to. Find out about I'll send an probably shoot a message out to Anne Vandersteel today and ask her about next week, the interviews that we potentially, David, she scheduled with you. Her and I didn't talk about that. See? So we've never firmed anything up. And, but I'll shoot her a little message, and, we'll see you guys on Monday. See how next week pans out. How about that? Does that sound good? Total silence.
That means Roger. Thank you very much, all the good folks. Please come back with your questions or if you just wanna join us on a regular basis if you can. Paul's got couple thousand seats there in the back for you. So tell all your friends. Roger.
[02:31:32] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:31:33] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:31:35] Unknown:
Did you give did you give Chase Geyser's email? I I missed it. Did you give it? I'll get no. I I didn't. I gave it earlier. I'll give it again. Thank you for reminding me and catching that. It's chase, c h a s e, at alex jones dot network. [email protected]. That'll get him.
[02:32:04] Unknown:
Excellent.
[02:32:05] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Alright. Well, thank you, Rodney. Alright. I'll see y'all on Monday. Have a great abbreviated weekend, and, stay safe. We'll see you soon and study. Remember, all you new folks, if you really wanna be free, your the the level and of your freedom is gonna be how well you know this information and can, a, defend your position when challenged if challenged, and, b, teach to other people. Those are two really important things. If you've guided yourself to that point, you're free. If you just wanna think this is a paperwork game and you don't have to do anything, you're wrong.
Although free is in the word freedom, it ain't free. You look at our forefathers. They lost everything they had. Okay? Learn the information. Here's the reason. When you file this paperwork, as some of you are probably gonna do, nothing changes. Your neighbors don't come up and congratulate you. The cop that pulls you over, oh, I heard you filed an affidavit. See you later, man. You're free to go. That ain't gonna happen more than likely. K? So the only way anything's gonna change, and that's what we're trying to do here is affect change. That's why it's free. The only way we're gonna affect change is if you be the change. And the only way you're gonna be the change is if you internalize the information.
That's it. Direct correlation. That's your charge that I charge you with is learn the information. And we get a strong group individuals that know this information. We're unstoppable, folks. We are unstoppable. Do you understand it?
[02:33:47] Unknown:
Roger, one last thing. It's Todd. Yes. Once I get 50 people free, provably free, I wanna do some celebration.
[02:33:55] Unknown:
Thank you. Man. Alright. Well, we hope, we hope to, help you, Todd. And, I wish I knew how many people had gone through this process. I have no idea. They come through here. They hang around. They learn it. They go off. We don't ever hear from them again. Well, that's good news because nothing's happening to them or we would hear from them. But I'd like for some of the old people to drop by every now and then. Let's say, hey, and let us know how they're doing. So, anyway, I'll see y'all on Monday. Have a wonderful day and a short weekend. Bye.
[02:34:28] Unknown:
Bye, Roger.
[02:34:30] Unknown:
Bye, Roger. Is David still here?
[02:34:35] Unknown:
Yep. I'm here.
[02:34:37] Unknown:
Hey, David. I'm on your website right now, and I'm trying to, I just typed in passport. I see, I did the search bar for passports. Do I need to do a DS11 or a DS82
[02:34:51] Unknown:
if you were me? Yeah. So the I would do the the DS. Well, it's gonna yours is gonna expire soon. Right?
[02:35:00] Unknown:
In two weeks.
[02:35:02] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I would say in two weeks. Are you gonna go take care of that right away prior to the two weeks, I would imagine?
[02:35:13] Unknown:
I was gonna go get a passport photo and just fill it out and then, federal express it or whatever on Monday.
[02:35:20] Unknown:
I think if it got in the door before the your expiration date, the d s eighty two would probably be the best. But if you go to in in the best way, I know searching is it has good searching the website, but if you go to Remedy and go to passport
[02:35:37] Unknown:
Okay. I did that's what I didn't do. I went to the learning center. I apologize. Okay. I'm there. I'm on Remedy.
[02:35:43] Unknown:
And then do it'll drop down. You'll see choices. You can pick passport.
[02:35:48] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on here. Let's see. I see land patent, abatement, internal revenue service, voter registration. I don't see passport on.
[02:36:03] Unknown:
So when you when you click on when you click on remedy, do you see choices
[02:36:10] Unknown:
there? I see the I just see, I see a political status. I'm happy being a fourteenth amendment citizen, or no. Oh, step three, passport. Do I click on that?
[02:36:23] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
It's not it's not going anywhere when I click on that flowchart.
[02:36:29] Unknown:
No. Not on the flowchart. Just scroll down.
[02:36:32] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:36:35] Unknown:
Oh, I have to
[02:36:39] Unknown:
Are you on a are you on your phone or are you on a regular computer?
[02:36:43] Unknown:
I'm on my phone. That's probably why. Oh, I I see the Remedy passport. I got it. I got it.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
And then when okay. You're in the right place, and there's some gray bars. And under each of those gray bars are drop downs, and they have a bunch of information there.
[02:37:00] Unknown:
Okay. Submitting your passport application, DS82 renewal.
[02:37:04] Unknown:
There you go. Alright.
[02:37:07] Unknown:
David.
[02:37:08] Unknown:
Thank you so much, David. My my flight is busy. I'm just on a I'm on a mobile chat. Joe late. No problem. Yeah. O h o h Joe late.
[02:37:17] Unknown:
Just through a Google search for passport grace period after explanation, the AI after expiration, the AI overview says, while there isn't a formal grace period for passport validity in the sense of being allowed to use it after the expiration date, the state department generally allows renewal by mail up to five years after the expiration date of a ten year passport. However, many countries require passports to be valid for at least six months beyond the intended stay, So it's best to renew well before the expiration date. There you go. There is a grace period. Use a DS82.
[02:37:57] Unknown:
God bless you. Thank you, Paul.
[02:38:00] Unknown:
David?
[02:38:01] Unknown:
Don't take me. Thank Google.
[02:38:04] Unknown:
Thank you, Google. Thank you, AI.
[02:38:09] Unknown:
Okay. I'm I'm done.
[02:38:11] Unknown:
David, are you there?
[02:38:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm here, and sorry for the sound here. I'm
[02:38:16] Unknown:
pumping gas. Go ahead. That's okay. That's this is Gigi off top of the passport. So I went through your site, and I've seen that you had a process for the, land patent. So I have the actual land patent for my my dad's property that was taken from me, last year. Would I be able to go through that process to try to get it back?
[02:38:44] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:38:46] Unknown:
I would almost suggest to Google, Ron Gibson's information. He has a book that now he just passed away, but his book is available. And I think we may have the book if you do the, I think we have his book on our site, but They call I would call that process specifically even though we have information process the best best you can.
[02:39:22] Unknown:
Okay. I have the book.
[02:39:25] Unknown:
What's the book called?
[02:39:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I have the book because I I got it about a year ago when I went and pulled the, the patent from the patent office. So I have three copies of the I have three partial paper of the, the, actual, land patent with the file number on it, and it's notarized.
[02:39:51] Unknown:
But but what I'm saying is there's a book that Ron Gibson created that has a process that he he developed.
[02:39:59] Unknown:
Right. It has a declaration where you put, you transfer over the information from off of the parking lot there, like, doing an assignment and stuff like that. I think
[02:40:12] Unknown:
Sorry.
[02:40:14] Unknown:
Yeah. So Yeah. I wanted to let them know that they were there
[02:40:19] Unknown:
with their kids where we took him and David and Adam. Oh. And and it's a great memory.
[02:40:27] Unknown:
Oh, nice. And I seeing David and asked him about Keith, and
[02:40:32] Unknown:
he said Dave.
[02:40:33] Unknown:
The other one. Dave.
[02:40:35] Unknown:
Check your mute. Open mic. Check your mute. Sorry.
[02:40:43] Unknown:
So so, Gigi, like I said, if if you get your hands on on Ron Gibson's book about land patents Okay. He he, he has a step by step, and it's not a quick process. You've gotta get your chain of title, which will take some work. Okay. But, yeah, that's that's the big deal because going back, sometimes, like, for us, we're here in Alabama. When we did try to find our chain of title, there were missing, titles because, during the a lot of times, there's been fires or floods and things like that where documents get destroyed, but you can you can do that.
[02:41:29] Unknown:
Would I get that from the officer's office? I'm sorry. Yep. Yes. Yes.
[02:41:33] Unknown:
And but, you can fill in there. There's a process to fill in those gaps.
[02:41:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I have them. I think I have those because, he give I think it's, like, three different pages where you do a declaration, and then he has the transfer of a quick deed on there. And then it has to go on the paper for a certain amount of time. And then, you have to do, I wanna say the Corniche. We're not using fiat. I wanna say 21 silver dollars.
[02:42:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm not super familiar. I know some of the, folks here on the call are familiar with that more so than me, but, we're we're still in the process, my wife and I, of, putting together a chain of title Okay. For our property. So, and she's really the one overseeing that. So and she's not available to answer your questions, but we're following Ron Gibson's process. So I would just suggest to just keep his back. Yep. Yep. For sure.
[02:42:45] Unknown:
Okay. Perfect. Thank you so much. Oh, you're welcome. Was Myrka still on the, call, or did she leave?
[02:42:55] Unknown:
Mirka left. Mirka left. I just wanted to re this is, Todd DWG on Earth. I just wanted to say one thing quick. Anybody in, it's in the chat that wants to join the Discord, we're gonna do a live. It's gonna be a step by step, very simple how to get free very quickly, but the steps to very importantly do it. Because if you make one wrong step, for example, sending your affidavit to, the secretary of state and not waiting as if it's a package for them to receive that, and then going ahead and sending your weaponization papers to all the other areas around you, that could be very bad for you. So we're gonna go through some steps to probably talk about, our dear friend, mister Hoyt, and, everybody's welcome. Thank you.
[02:43:44] Unknown:
Hey, Todd. This is David, with National Status. I join you, but I can't. I'm sorry. But feel free to use the, remedy section, you know, as a teaching tool if you want to walk people through because that's where we've defined those steps, affidavit, notices, passport. And just don't forget when you're doing going into those sections, you scroll down, there's gray drop down bars. That's where the majority of the information is under each of the sections, the affidavit notices
[02:44:16] Unknown:
and passport over. Thank you so much for reaching out to me, David. And that's guys, that's at nationalstatus.com or nationalstatus.info. And I believe David and Julie. Right? Do you guys both work on that?
[02:44:32] Unknown:
No. It's it's my wife and I, Kate. But Julie, yeah, she's, very participates great deal in Rogers' shows, so she's very knowledgeable as well. But, yeah. But on the site, just so folks know, when you get to nationalstats.com, at the top, there's navigation. The steps are under the Remedy section, and you just click on Remedy, and you'll see. But you really wanna understand the concepts before you really jump into all the the documentation. That's kinda Roger's definitely his suggestion and the way he teaches. Over.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Thank you so much. I'll bring that up. And, may I may I may I comment? Absolutely. Yep. Yeah. Hi. I just wanted to let you know that for me, at least during this process, my hardest, thing was the word resident because we're trained, through equivocation to think of that as a place or where you domicile or where you live or in a geographic sense. And in this case, resident refers to your political status. It's are you under the jurisdiction of the of Washington, DC? And then, also, we're tricked into thinking that United States is the 50 states, and it's not. It's the District of Columbia. It's that 10 square mile area. So that's the the other thing that tricked me. And they do that in the IRS as well, the code book in the IRS. I bought both of those books. It's like a thousand. No. It's like seven or 8,000 pages because there were two books. So they trick you with words and definitions all the time. If you look up what the definition of a trade or a business is, in the IRS definitions, it's somebody who performs the functions of a public office. It's not a plumber or electrician or, you know, what we would consider a trade or a business, whether you're, you know, a marketing expert or something like that. So that's what, Dave and Kaye's site really helps you master those words and and just repeating them over and over again and being on the show and hearing people talk about this over and over again.
You'll commit it to memory, by being on these shows if you can. I try to be on them every day. Even if I have to work, I try to multitask in the background because your subconscious will still pick up on the definitions and and the questions other people ask and the answers people give. So thank you.
[02:47:03] Unknown:
Hey, Julie, to your point and to the group, I just posted an article I wrote, and it's on the homepage of nationalstats.com at the bottom. It's called it's called equivocation of terms.
[02:47:15] Unknown:
Right. I saw
[02:47:16] Unknown:
that. In the article, I oh, okay. I I created a a chart that, has various, terms that are used, and it kind of breaks them down, but it, it definitely zeros in on national and American national. They are, statutory, and those are the ones we recommend to use, but it that article breaks it down best I could, and it's short article, short read. So for for anybody listening, feel free. It's at the bottom of the page, the homepage, you'll see articles, and you'll see that article over. Just click on it. Thanks. Yeah. And, Dave, I have a question for you while you're on here,
[02:47:59] Unknown:
or David. Sorry. With with the passport, I forgot. I remember in January, I think it was on the twenty fifth, if I my memory serves me correct. Roger went through that whole entire passport application for over two hours on the phone. Did he say that national is hidden behind, US citizen? Is that what he said it was hidden behind?
[02:48:21] Unknown:
Well, there's been there's been some discussion regarding US national and national, but he normally states that, our national is hidden behind noncitizen national, which is, you know, the Samoa. Samoan, which is, you know, eight USC one one zero one, lowercase eight, number 22 b, uppercase b, which is that's where that's where they hide, our national under that under that, but we're 20 number 21. The definition is number 21. And also to the group, if you're looking up the definition of national in US code, be cognizant that, the the law, Cornell Law online, when you go to that definition, it highlights the the lowercase state, the word, and you click on it, and it takes you to the wrong definition, it takes you to the upper case definition of state. So it I think it throws everybody because they they have that in there incorrectly.
Over.
[02:49:28] Unknown:
So, Dave David, you said eight u s c one ten wait. One one zero one, lower, parentheses a, 22, and then parenthesis, capital b? Capital b. Yes. As in boy. But after 11 o one, what did you say?
[02:49:45] Unknown:
Yeah. 11 o one lowercase a.
[02:49:49] Unknown:
Okay. Is that in parentheses?
[02:49:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, if when you go when you find it online, you'll see the lowercase a. Okay. And then under lowercase a, you'll see all kinds of definitions. You just scroll down to number twenty one and twenty two. But 22 is the one that is the, head fake that Roger always talks about. That's where peep and I've noticed that the AIs out there as well as Google, when you when you Google the term national, it takes you to that definition, and then it really throws off people because it's national of The United States, which is not us. We're just National.
[02:50:29] Unknown:
Right. So I on that one, handbook that Devin not that one handbook, on that two pager, at the bottom of of the matrixdocs.com, if you scroll all the way down to the bottom where that, where the that two pager is with all the cases on it to support, it has all the all of the cases that we've discussed before. I there's at the very top of that, I don't like that document because it says that US citizens, are property US national US nationals are not. I just don't like that word United States. I feel like a US national is the same thing as property. Am I right or wrong on that? Because that's confusing. So so the way I keep it straight in my head, Julie, is anything with US, United States connected to it when it comes to nationals, not Us. Yeah. And otherwise document yeah. I told I told Merca this a long time ago. I'm like, that document needs to be changed because even in his book, Sovereign to Surf, and it's a old book. It was written so long ago, they used the US National. And when I did my, thirty minute or hour consultation with Roger, he was contradicting on the, verbal consultation that I had with him, what was in his book, and what he was telling me regarding property. And I had gotten confused, and I was like, Roger, this is really confusing. I don't like that word US national. US national is the same as The US citizen because it's got United States before it. I said I'd rather use national by itself or state citizen by itself or a citizen of The United States Of America, those three terms to identify myself, because I don't know, US national could potentially get us in trouble if we ever had to go, I don't know, to court or something like that. It was what was what my thinking was. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, David.
[02:52:19] Unknown:
That's alright. That's cool. I, you know, I I contend that, you know, number 22, as I mentioned, is national of The United States, which is not us. I contend that US national is synonymous with with that term. And, of course, that's not us.
[02:52:37] Unknown:
So But David but David but David, they're using US National on the passport, in both DS11 and DS82, and that's not me. So that's why I was trying to figure out where are we hidden, what are we hidden behind? And you said it's a noncitizen national, which is an American Samoan. But I thought Roger said we're hidden behind US citizens. I I guess it doesn't matter.
[02:52:59] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I hear what you're saying. You know? And and if you look at it, if US National is is synonymous with National in The United States, then, yes, you know, we're hiding behind because part of that definition is the the Samoan. Right? But Right. When it comes to when it comes to the passport, your affidavit will supersede in my opinion, it supersedes what what you put on there, as to your status. It because it's it's deferring to
[02:53:28] Unknown:
the affidavit as to what your what your status is. So when it asks you to check one of those boxes, do you just leave it blank on there since you're no longer a US citizen anymore? So You
[02:53:40] Unknown:
Right. If I if I remember correctly, and I can double check, I think what I did was I selected noncitizen national, but then, because there was no alternative. Right? And so I think at the time, that was the my best choice, you might say, and I knew that I would, I would be attaching my affidavit to that, which says I'm a national as in the number 21 definition. And, I had already previously sent my affidavit to the US secretary of state previous to the passport application as we're, you know, as the process indicates we should so.
[02:54:21] Unknown:
Right. So I sent my affidavits a long time ago. So they're already there. I already have the certified return receipt back and the cover letters and the, and I have still have I did a bunch of original, affidavits of citizenship evidence, so I have those in my file folders. So I'll just fill out the d s 82, and I can go to Walgreens or CVS, and they do passport photos there for pretty cheap, and then just fill it out, put my affidavit, and stick it in the mail, certified mail return receipt, and it should get there next week before expiration. And, hopefully, I don't have an issue like Mary had where they send it back in the mail to keep my money my money order and tell me I have to do a DS 11.
[02:55:03] Unknown:
I hear you. You know, Julie, a while back, you mentioned you were you were going, head first after that Sysdig SysdigiQ fund? I can't remember. I can't never say it right. But,
[02:55:17] Unknown:
That's the KB.
[02:55:19] Unknown:
Yeah. How's that going? I'm just curious.
[02:55:22] Unknown:
You know, I'm working. I wish I were retired like some people on here. I really do because I would be able to do this full force. I think I have it figured out, meaning, you've got to go to they have now my understanding now, David, is that they have now they've really hidden this. They have, taken all of our Social Security numbers and all of our, CUSIP numbers and they've merged them together like they do mortgage backed securities when they are selling collateralized bond or obligations to investors. And there's and this is being done at the second Treasury, which is down in Puerto Rico.
Can you hear me or am I too loud? Yes. I can hear you. I can hear you. Yes. Okay. So, my understanding is that you've got to go after, these ten ninety nine a's. And you can't go in you can't really take this truth into any courtroom because, they're hiding this. And so the path, to the fraud and the identity theft is through, an IRS ten ninety nine a, which acquires your birth certificate, which means your property, and that is for their bid performance and payment bond, which they are selling. So,
[02:56:55] Unknown:
the problem is May I interrupt? Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, thank you so much, Todd. Listen. I just wanted to throw something in here real quick on that. That's one thing I've been no. Luckily, there's I mean, there's new people in here, but luckily for all you veterans, a lot of these people are really have been studying and researching words and stuff and things of that nature. So now we're setting ourselves free, but then round two is gonna be just fun as heck. I just wanted to let you know that Cescat's trust well, first and foremost, you guys know our birth certificate, our Social Security card, even giving you money is illegal. It's not even ours. So that we gotta in the in the long run, we gotta fourteenth we gotta collapse the fourteenth amendment constructive. Ends Legis.
Well, straw man. Trust that your county set up for you when you were born, that is and then we're gonna basically terminate all, intermediate fiduciaries that are handling all our of our certificates and noncertificates, but they're not ours yet. That's why people go to jail when they go to try to get money on a TD or they find out where their money is in the Federal Reserve Bank because of the letter on the back of their social. The problem is, guys, it's not ours.
[02:58:13] Unknown:
Okay? Yes. Yes. It is ours.
[02:58:15] Unknown:
It is ours. It is ours. It's not ours now. You have to take you have to take executive office of it. You have to take control of it right now. We are. We are. No. I know. No. No. I'm not saying you're not. I'm I'm telling just the people that okay. Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. What we are, we, they have, we are the
[02:58:35] Unknown:
we're the granters and we're the beneficiaries of that sophisticated trust. And, you know, when you go to court and you've got the bar attorneys, well, actually, the Attorney General of The United States is the trustee over all of these. And, so basically, when you what the IRS does when you file your taxes, they file a ten ninety nine a. They create create this, and they fraudulently sign your name to it, which is identity theft. So you can get a ten ninety nine, a copy c and file that with your taxes to cancel and just charge the liability, or you can file a ten ninety nine, b and get a check back by revoking and revesting the truck.
So the problem that where people are going to jail sorry about that. The problem where people are going to jail, my understanding, is when you file a different form with the IRS, which is something like an o I or something like that, It's different from the, what you file as a national, if you're gonna file tax returns, but it's a different thing you file. If you get that back and you put that check into your account, that's when people are going to jail. But my understanding is that you gotta cancel. You've got to you're the granter, you're the bailer, and you're the beneficiary, and you have to revoke and revest that trust.
And the way you jail, which is great. Yeah. And the way you do that is you gotta file your IRS documents, properly. And so what he does what what I have learned is that, yes, it it's great, that we're national if that's what you wanna do. But it's basically I if you file my understanding is you file an affidavit of identity theft with the with the IRS, and that's something like form 14 O39.
[03:00:28] Unknown:
Did I I just one one more I believe I have to leave because I have a still starting. I just wanted to tell everybody, look up UCC8Dash112LittleD. And,
[03:00:41] Unknown:
that's that again? UCC8Dash112LowercaseD,
[03:00:52] Unknown:
and that's your path to freedom. But I gotta go, and I love you guys so much. Thank you so much for everything.
[03:00:57] Unknown:
Thank you. God bless. Yeah. So, what was I gonna tell you, David? I'm I'm gonna see if I can, because I am new to this too, and I'm trying to learn all this stuff too. Let me see here.
[03:01:14] Unknown:
Okay. So Julie, I gotta I gotta I gotta jump, Julie.
[03:01:19] Unknown:
Oh, you gotta go too? Okay. I I do.
[03:01:22] Unknown:
Okay. We'll talk later.
[03:01:23] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:01:24] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks, Julie. Bye. Thank you for your help. Oh, you're welcome, Anyhud. Bye bye.
[03:01:30] Unknown:
So anybody else who's interested on here with this or no? Wanna move on to something else? Or is everybody gone? It's Saturday afternoon.
[03:01:38] Unknown:
Morning. I'm listening.
[03:01:40] Unknown:
Okay. So basically basically, you guys, we have a leg legacy account. And if you look up title 31, code of federal regulations three sixty three, and there are many cases that support proof that this account exists. And your birth certificate emanates out of the Maternity Act of 1920, and there are many cases where the maternity act generated your birth certificate, which is now known as a banknote. So there's a bunch of, who issued these banknotes? Pacific Banknote? Bank banknote company, American Banknote company, Midwest Banknote company.
But this generated your birth certificate trust, which is also known as your legacy account, which is also known as your estate, your legacy estate, and they, again, are using equivocation, for this. And what they've done now, because people started to figure out about these, is your birth certificate trust or your AKA legacy account is actually managed by the United States Treasury. And now they've opened up two, treasuries. They've got a second one down in Puerto Rico. And what we're after is Trust number sixty two in Puerto Rico, which is under Title 31, U. S. Code thirteen twenty one, Section 62, which is Trust sixty two for the Internal Revenue Service. And so why are why is it down in Puerto Rico? We all know Puerto Rico is not a state, it's a territory, and they have a completely different jurisdiction judicial system down there. So we can't directly attack that through any US courts.
They've hidden it down there to make it very hard for us to get directly into that account, and what we wanna do is collapse, revoke, and reverse that account in order to access our security that they created. So, we actually have a trustee over this account, and it is United States attorney general, which is title 50, United States code forty three twelve, and that is called the Alien Property Custodian Common Law Trustee. Again, they just keep on adding words on and making this even more and more confusing. But the way this is true is Congress would not write codes of federal regulations if this were not true. They don't lie like that. They lie in many other ways, but they don't lie in that manner. So the account is through the Bureau of Fiscal Services, which is inside the Treasury Department, and the IRS is your accountant.
How lovely. And, you know, you can, reference this book, which I love, and Samuel and I have talked about a long a lot of times on the after shows called The Fruit from the Poisonous Tree, by Melvin Stamper. It was revealed in this book in a big way in 02/2008. And I recommend you can get it for free. If you go to the Yandex browser, I think it's on internet.archive, and you can just type in fruit from the poisonous tree in the search thing, and you can get a PDF copy of it and print it out, double sided. It's very thick. It's huge. But if you prefer a bound book, then you it's still available, I believe, on Amazon, but that's for people who wanna don't wanna pay for it. But so, what was I gonna say?
So the government owes us what is called a set off. They owe us a debt on the public side because we're the creditor. So they have to pay our liabilities on the public side. So if you owe the government money, they're supposed to pay your liabilities, and they're supposed to do a set off, and they don't want us to know this. So this is all about a book entry system. There's no money. If everybody wants to understand what to do for your remedy, what was I going to tell you? The easiest way to do your remedy is you have to use the IRS because the courts, the banks, and the government agencies do not want to accept any time any type of negotiable instrument from you even though that is commercial fraud. And that's why I I was telling I was telling, who I know I'm having a sobrain fart today.
My friend from Idaho. Can somebody please help me out here? He's always on the after show. George. George from Idaho. Thank you. I was telling him, he's trying to do these, you know, acceptance for values. He's trying to turn his, his bills and his payment coupons into, bills of exchange, it's not gonna work because they are obligated to take it, but it's but they're not doing it. They've written policies so strongly against our ability to do this. It's not worth the time to do it, and, it's not worth your effort to try to do any commercial law with them because you're gonna end up litigating in court, and it's just easier and faster to go to the IRS. And the courts are all corrupt with judges anyway that aren't listening to us. They don't want us to know this. So it's better to go through the IRS and handle it through the ledger.
And so this involves the ten ninety nine a, c, and b's. And where people are getting in trouble with what Todd was talking about is if you file an OID. The OID has been turned off. If you do that, my understanding is that's how you end up in jail. So what our remedy is is through the birth certificates. And, what what what's really irritating for me is that you had those. You had, you know, Elon Musk. Everybody knows he's corrupt, and he's just took taken all of our data from all of these agencies and uploaded it into his Starlink and his AI programs and stuff. But when he was originally auditing all of these places, the number one place he should have been auditing, he should have been down in Puerto Rico auditing all the fake $10.99 a's, which basically acquired our property, and he should have been auditing auditing the identity theft for those bid performance and payment bonds that all these agencies are writing behind our name, making us the principal and the assurity. That's identity theft. We we never authorized them to do this. They never disclosed it to us. He should go and audit all those fraudulent securities and revoke and reverse them and give us our money back.
So I'm trying to figure this out right now. I haven't done this yet because I need to go to the IRS and get the ten ninety nine a, b, and c's and read them. But what the IRS commits, fraud by not giving you your ten ninety nine a copy that they create and file with your taxes. Because if they gave it to you, you would take your ten ninety nine a and file it with your taxes, and that would cancel and discharge any liability. And but you can also, use a ten ninety nine b, my understanding is, and get a check back by revoking and the trust. I don't know how to do that yet, and I'm working on it, but I have limited time because I'm still working.
So basically, the United States Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission and the IRS are engaged in willful fraud and concealment of our accounting and securities. If they don't, they're in violation of the Securities and Exchange Rule 10 b five, where you have standing to sue them both civilly and criminally because they're not giving us our ten ninety nine a copy c to file their taxes. So I'm new to this, and I'm trying to learn this and I have not printed out all of these cases that I know about that I wanna read. All I know is that we are the grantor or the bailer and we are the beneficiary and we have the right to revoke and revest that trust at any time, but we have to file the IRS documents properly.
And that's what I'm working on right now that David was asking me about. They don't wanna bring oh, the other thing is you don't really wanna bring this into the public realm. That's where people are disappearing. So you just wanna do the accounting, which is ledger, and you just wanna do the ten ninety nine a or the b or the c if you wanna just you wanna do the c if you wanna discharge it. And then if you really you could do a ten ninety nine b because they did embezzle from you and take your money back. But if you do the ten ninety nine b, you gotta be careful because you have to have a CUSIP, and you have to do it to the penny.
So you have to ask IRS to respond back to you with proper accounting. You do not wanna cheat the Treasury Department because that's how you end up in jail. We only you only want the money back that has been taken from us because that's what your equity is, and you have to act like the creditor. You gotta do the accounting with the IRS. Hit the ledger, and there's nothing the agency can do. It sits on their transcript, and they have to cancel and discharge the accounting on their side. And this was set up by the banking system in the beginning. It it actually was designed originally to be real simple, but they and they also have not been paying the taxes that they owe on our securities, and that would be the IRS. They owe taxes on the securities.
So, anyway, that's all I really have for right now. It's very confusing, and it's confusing on purpose, so that we can't figure this out. And again, what they've done with the Q SIP is they've now merged them all together, and that's basically lawlessness. It's unlawful for them to have done that, and they've done it because there are people out there understanding is there are people out there that are doing this and using this system, but you cannot if you promote it, there's people that are disappearing. I mean, it's kind of like Kevin Hoyt right now with his publicly, identifying these people in New Hampshire who who did child sex trafficking. I watched his whole entire presentation in front of these people, And he he had connected all of their EIN numbers together, and he had all their websites. And one of these guys' websites had the FBI logo for child trafficking on it. He goes, what are you doing with this business? That's a child sex trafficking symbol all over your website. That's on the FBI's website, and this guy's face just went red.
[03:13:20] Unknown:
So Is this is this Judy? Julie.
[03:13:23] Unknown:
Hi. Hi, Joan.
[03:13:25] Unknown:
Hi. Did Kevin ever tell you why his daughter got kidnapped and how she he got her back?
[03:13:35] Unknown:
I no. I did not go into that with him, but I do know that when he did his interview, he and Paul and Roger discussed this. And had he been a national at the time and had he, probably even made her a national, but even if he didn't have her as a national at the time, had he been a national at the time, he could have prevented this because Paul, gave a a case to Kevin, that he had, that that was on, I guess, Roger's show before I joined it. So, CPS is just going after everybody here these days. I'm sure they went after her because of, what he exposed in front of everybody publicly that, all the websites and the money laundering and all of the child sex trafficking websites they had each individually set up that they were getting money for kickbacks.
[03:14:26] Unknown:
Julie? Do you did you see where the where the Fed, governor resigned?
[03:14:35] Unknown:
I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. This is Joe? Is this Joe? This is Jerry. Jerry. Oh, hi, Jerry. Jerry. I didn't see that yet. I've I've I've been told he was gonna resign, but I haven't seen it.
[03:14:46] Unknown:
Yeah. He resigned. Yeah.
[03:14:49] Unknown:
Did you get my messages? I'm sorry. I did. Yes, Jerry. Thank you. And I've been working, and I have to work all weekend long. And I, so I thank you very much. I'm it's gonna take me a few days to get all that stuff put together and put and pasted into a a Word document and then convert it into a PDF file for everybody. So everybody who wanted me to send them this, I have your emails, but just please be patient with me on the land patent stuff.
[03:15:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Were you able to get it to that gentleman in Michigan?
[03:15:18] Unknown:
No. I have to no. I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to copy paste, copy paste, copy paste, copy paste, and then, put it all together and then email it out to everybody. That's what everybody wanted. Oh, okay. Alright. Well, thank you. But thank no. Thank you. Thank you. In fact, I tried to call you, Jerry, but I your phone went straight to voice mail, so I didn't leave a message. Birthday party. But anyway Oh, you had a birthday party? My son-in-law. Yeah. Is it your birthday?
[03:15:48] Unknown:
No. My son in law's.
[03:15:50] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, tell him I said happy birthday. Belated birthday. Yeah. Julie. Thank you, Jerry. Birthday. But anyway, thank you. Thank you, Jerry. Julie. Yes. Hi, Karen.
[03:16:03] Unknown:
Hi. Earlier today, Todd mentioned something about Kevin Hoyt missing and his daughter. Do you know anything about that or any further information?
[03:16:13] Unknown:
Well, he's been on the road. Or he's been on the run with her previously. So, I don't have any more information except for, you know, they were coming after she and he, and that's why the original, podcast was delayed between Roger and, Roger and he. Well, actually, Roger missed the first one because he didn't see the email with the link. So, when we were setting up the second one, it was delayed because, he was delayed because, he was on the run. And I did text him, but I haven't heard back from him. But I know that, Kevin, is very resourceful and he's able to live in the wilderness.
He that's why why he has that show title on Rumble. He can survive out in, the wilderness for days and weeks and months if he has to. So, I would imagine he's someplace where he they can't find him, where he doesn't have a cell phone that he doesn't have. Maybe he has a burner phone. I'm not sure. Thank you for the update. Appreciate it. Yeah. If I have him, I'll let you guys know, but nothing back from him right now.
[03:17:36] Unknown:
Julie, can you hear me? Yep. Hi. My name is Ali. I'm part of Todd's group. Oh, hi, Ali. And Hi. Okay. So, a lot of what you're talking about is where my research has been with Brandon Jo Williams with regards to using the IRS to go ahead and have them set off or, you know,
[03:17:59] Unknown:
set off, like, all of your credit cards background. Hold on, Abi. There's a really a lot of background. Who who can somebody, mute? I hear a lot of kids. Everybody mute who's not talking, please? Okay. That's much better. Thank you. Go ahead, Aliyah. Now I can hear you.
[03:18:18] Unknown:
Okay. So where you are with regards to speaking about how going by way of the IRS in order to set off or or to have the IRS they settle all of our accounts, basically, and they will do it on a monthly basis or depending on how it is you present it to them. That's how they, you know, like, that's how we're supposed to live. That's how we're supposed to have infinite money. Basically, if there's anything with if there's anything with your Social Security number associated with it, then you can send it to them to set off. But for all the little everyday expenses, you use a credit card, which the credit card is what you have your Social Security number attached to, and you send them your credit card bill on a monthly basis.
And then they pay that off, and you go back to a zero balance. And that's how you're supposed to spend money on a monthly basis. And it's supposed to be very simple, and I've been learning this through Brandon Joe Williams. So,
[03:19:19] Unknown:
I'm right there. The Do you have a website?
[03:19:22] Unknown:
Brandon Joe Williams has a website called first of all, you can look him up under Brandon Joe Williams, but his website and the way most people know him as one stupid fuck dot com.
[03:19:36] Unknown:
Oh, I know him. I have that I have that, I have that website. I did not know that hit that was him.
[03:19:43] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That yeah. That's him. And it's all there. And I'm right there. And and my question, and it seems like it never really gets answered, so I kinda stopped asking, is on one hand, we're changing our statuses. And on the other hand, if you use the IRS correctly as as I just described, like, if you went ahead and submitted all of your expenses I mean, we're talking about setting off your your mortgage, setting off anything that you owe for your car, setting off all of your credit cards. If you use the IRS just the way you described, just the way Brandon teaches, then you have infinite money. And changing your status does things for you, like, prevents you from being, you know, subject to statutes and and laws and what have you. I mean, it pulls us out like we need to be pulled out, but I don't know if I wanna be pulled out so much that I can't use the IRS. Or can we continue to use the IRS to set off our expenses while we're changing our status? And I think I've already answered my question. I think the answer is yes. But that is key.
[03:20:49] Unknown:
I I think we can. I mean, that, my understanding is that legacy estate or that legacy trust belongs to us. And, they are, again, you know, using our labor, to back the fiat currency. And, I but I just haven't figured out how to fill out those forms, and I don't wanna be one of those people that get gets arrested and get put into jail because I didn't have the exact numbers of, the exact, numbers behind my CUSIP. It has to be to the penny. And, and so, you know, for lack of a better word, I'm a little bit I mean, I have faith over fear, but I'm a little bit fearful of doing anything like this until I actually pull down those forms.
I have not been on Brandon Jo Williams site to figure out, but I do have a lot of friends who've tried to, pay their mortgage and their car and their credit cards, but I don't think they were using the IRS. Or maybe they were using the IRS through the Treasury, and they were sending it to the wrong place. And my understanding is that's why they set up a separate Treasury down in Puerto Rico now because they're out of The US jurisdiction down there, and they have totally different court system down there. And then now to make matters worse, they've taken our CUSIP numbers when they were individualized, and they've merged them all into one CUSIP number, where all of our individual ones fall underneath that one. It's a master CUSIP number, and nobody knows what that master CUSIP number is. So I I if you know how to do this or you wanna work on this with me, I'd love to work on it with you and figure this out so we can share it with everybody else because what they're doing is just so evil.
[03:22:34] Unknown:
I know how to get the master QSIP number. Okay. Okay? I know who has direct access to those master QSIP numbers and knows exactly how to do it. And he's one of the individuals that wrote that first redemption manual.
[03:22:47] Unknown:
So what's Okay. So I can copy them that
[03:22:52] Unknown:
Brandon I believe Brandon has all of them. But, anyways, let me, give me some contact information so that I could reach out to you. Yep.
[03:22:59] Unknown:
You know? And then we can we can solidify this. Yep. I'll give you my, I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you my, alternative Gmail, email since we're on we're we're being recorded here, and then you can I'll switch you over to my main email. But email me at, [email protected]. So that is begrate,fasinFrank,ul,four,for,life,life,andandsmile,fmile,@gmail.com. I'm sorry. I don't know how I came up with that long email address.
[03:23:45] Unknown:
Okay. You you you lost me at four because I spelled it one way,
[03:23:49] Unknown:
and then you said another grateful. Yeah. All spelled out. Every word spelled out. Be grateful for life and spot smile.
[03:24:00] Unknown:
Okay. Be grateful for life, a n d?
[03:24:04] Unknown:
Yep. And smile. Yep. [email protected]. And it's grateful spelled g r a t e f u l. Got it. Hey, Julie. Thank you so well. Oh, no. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Alright. I'll be in touch. Yep. We can figure this out together. It's just so confusing. And, I'm gonna tell her most of the lines on. Hey, Julie. Yeah. Hi. To be honest with you, I think pieces. I think we have the pieces. It's not gonna be confusing. Oh, you know what? If we got the pieces, let's go then. I mean, I'm willing to take a chance here.
[03:24:43] Unknown:
Okay, guys. Take care. I gotta go. Thank you, Ali.
[03:24:47] Unknown:
Hey, Julie.
[03:24:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi.
[03:24:49] Unknown:
Hey. It's David again. Sorry. I had to jump off, but I'm back on. But, hey, listen. If you if you figure this out, if you figure out the process and you validate it, I'd love to have another section if you're open on the remedy, page, for this.
[03:25:08] Unknown:
Absolutely. Website.
[03:25:10] Unknown:
And, you know, I know I know, you know, it's an effort of, you know, we my wife and I don't monetize anything, so we do it to get the word out about this stuff. So, I mean, it's up to you. David David, I'm I'm not looking to monetize anything. We are all being so evilly thief from and murdered and,
[03:25:31] Unknown:
poisoned that I'm not charging for anything. I'm giving everything out for free because I feel like this is the community we're in. We are all brothers and sisters, and we're here to help each other. That's what life is about. So you you can have everything of mine. I already told everybody, if I figure this out, you can all have it for free, and I will I will make videos. I have Camtasia, software on my computer. I will make videos showing every single person step by step on how to do this, and I'll I'll put it in a drop box for you. And you can you and, your wife your beautiful wife can edit it and put it post it all over your remedy.
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That'd be cool. That'd be really cool. I appreciate I'll stay in touch. Okay?
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Thank
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you, David. Okay. Thanks, David. Bye bye.
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Bye bye. Have a great day.
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Purchase. I'm not struck of mine.
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I think somebody's mic is open. Oh, yeah.
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The construction room.
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Whose mic is open?
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Hey, Willie.
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You heard that you're talking to, did spin the mic off.
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Yes. So check if you're there.
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I think that's from Carol.
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Is that the only one that's o open right now, Joan? Because I'm not on the FCC app right right now. I'm just on a landline.
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I think so.
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I'll check
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again. I shut them all off.
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Is this Andy? No. I turned them all off. Thank you, Andy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're the best.
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Is Jerry Garcia on here to talk about the land patent again?
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Hey, Jerry Garcia. Jerry Garcia. Gary. Gary. Gary.
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He must be at a Grateful Dead concert.
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I'm going to Stanford. Hey, Dave.
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Which Dave? In the sum. Oh, that's not me.
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Yeah.
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Hey, Samuel. Do you know where do you know where Highway 40 comes in in at the Upper Peninsula? Oh, I don't know. I know where Highway 2 is. Highway 41 is my brother just told me. He was just up there in the Upper Peninsula. He says it's the longest highway in this country, which I find hard to believe seeing it's going north to south, but he said, it goes from the Upper Peninsula all the way to, the end of Florida.
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Highway 40? That's I 75. Highway 41. I'm pretty sure that's I 75. Okay. I 75 goes from Florida all the way to the UP, north and south.
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He said it was 41. I'm familiar with 41, though. I'm sure he said 41. I would've known the difference between 70 Something. Yeah. I'm gonna check it out. I thought you might know, but I just have more time.
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I'm not familiar with Highway 41. No. And on your last map out of Yupur though, I don't I've only been up in the UP a couple of times, but I know I 75, I've traveled that, you know, many, many times and that I've driven it from, you know, Detroit to Florida several times, and I've been up to the UP on it. So, you know, that yeah. I 75 goes right to the Mackinac Bridge.
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Yeah. He says that, up there, he that they get, like, 15 feet of snow in the winter.
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They do. Your brother is is that your brother in Wisconsin?
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Yeah.
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41 goes to 41 goes through Wisconsin.
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Yeah. That goes the other way. But it does that go Andy, does that go all the way from UP down to Florida?
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Goes from UP to Milwaukee for sure. I don't know how far south it goes.
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I I think I've been on 41 in the South somewhere, but I you know, it's been a long time.
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We have relatives down in Florida, and I know he's made that trip several times too with his camper and his truck. He gets seven miles to the gallon. He's got his toy holder with him though too, and that has his, gull wing in it and you know? Oh, yeah.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Hey. Did did does BLM do business in in the state of Michigan?
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Not to my knowledge. Okay. Oh, you mean Black Lives Matter? They're they're all around they're all over Michigan.
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Oh, the Bureau of Land Management because that that's the value that's how you go for your land patent.
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I think it's the Bureau of Black Land lies, matter. Yeah. Matter.
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In California, I know for sure that's where you go when you're trying to do your land tax. Okay. That's where you start. Michigan's,
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department is DNR, Department of Natural Resources, or darn near red.
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Yep. That's them.
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So this way that that Jerry's doing it, I mean, he's in a isn't he in a Western state too? Isn't he, like, in, New Mexico?
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New Mexico. That's all bad. I would assume that's BLM.
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He's in New Mexico.
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Yeah. I would I would think that's BLM as well. So what he's talking about, that website what was the name of that website he was on the other day?
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He was I never did get that.
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I have it somewhere. I wrote it down. See if I can find it. I think I have it.
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And then pulled up the meets and bounds for that for was that Mary?
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Yep. He did somebody's address, and he found out what the balance was. And he doesn't pay property taxes anymore.
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Well, he doesn't pay them, but they may not have taken them off the tax rolls. Here in California, you've got five years to pay up before it goes to auction. So I take a little bit with that grain of salt what he's exactly saying there. I'm not sure exactly what he's saying. But if you're just making the assumption that you're not gonna pay them, like here, we got a five, a five year wait before, they send the sheriff.
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Now now What I recall
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him saying was that he attached himself as an assignee or an assign to that land patent that that Joshua Culpepper or whatever that name was that the road East sits on who has the original land patent from, 1842, I think he said.
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Yeah. That's that's all part of, sort of what Gibson's saying in his thing as well. I don't you know, I mean, I introduced everybody to Ron on this group, but I have some caveats with what he was doing mostly because he was not until the very end was he aware of the citizenship difference, and slaves just can't own property. That's why I started to do my process all over again. Right. I think I think that's the hinge Okay. Are you there?
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Yeah. Okay. So, I believe he says you go to the US Department of Interior. That makes sense. And then you go to the Bureau of Land Management. That makes sense. And then you click on services.
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Okay. Well, I think that's probably correct. Yeah. You click on land records, general,
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and GLO. And on the top left, you click land patent. And then you put under city, state, and name, you're just putting Illinois, and you put in the third box, you put the township and the range and the section, and then you hit search patent.
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And where are you getting your township and range section from?
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Yeah. That's where I wanted to know where where did he find all that information.
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I think he went maybe to randy majors dot org.
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Here in California, they're on the deed.
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They if it's an unincorporated
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area, they give you a in leaps and bounds.
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Like, California I'm sorry. I'm I just caught the end of this, but it's yeah. Put California section range township maps, and it'll come up randymajors.org.
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Yeah. Randymajors.org is what he said. That's what I wrote down.
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Yeah. I didn't catch I didn't understand why Randy Majors would have anything to do with the BLM or apartment of interior. Is he a You have to take that. You gotta take that information
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from when you put that in, and you have to use that when you go to the US Department of Interior is my understanding. Am I correct there?
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Well, here's how it works in California. If you're in an unincorporated area, your title has meets and bounds on it. You take the meets and bounds and you tell the b m dot or the Bureau of Land Management what land patent is that in. And you ask them for three certified copies and a certified plot map. And you get that back,
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and it's the beginning of your process. How do you tell if you're in how do you tell if you're incorporated or unincorporated? How do you tell that?
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Well, if you're within a city limit, you're probably incorporated incorporated. They still may have them in in in you know, they still might you made some bombs. You might have to do a little more digging.
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In the Randy Majors, when you type in your address up there in the left hand corner under that little blue balloon, it'll tell you your your Jerry, who's Randy Majors? MAPS. Sections, township MAPS.
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Yeah. Who is randymajors?dotorg.
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It's it's just a map, geographical map.
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Okay.
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Well, you can find your land patent. You don't have to go to the building because they'll do a bunch You could get a certified copy from them. That's important along with a certified plot map. You gotta get three certified copies from your state's county, recorder. Mine is in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
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Well, yeah, that when I did my chain of title, that certified, statement from the Bureau of Land Management in my state matches the original document, the first one that you pull, which is the land patent. There's a correlation there in in California.
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And so it is in every state?
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Yeah. I would think so.
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It yeah. It is. Did you guys The Randy Majors the randymajors.org, you can type in your address, and it'll bring up your land Okay. Okay. Yeah. That little balloon, and then you can get your your Alright. Southwest Quarter or the Northwest Quarter of Section 20 Of Township 22 South Of Section 1.
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That's And
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what what I would take that over to the Department of Interior under GLO Land Records, land patents, and put your state at the very top. And in the third box down where it says township range and section, you put top put all that stuff in, and it'll bring all these, land patent owners that are land patent holders. And then you look for your Southwest quarter, Southeast quarter, or Southwest quarter, or Northwest quarter, whatever over there in the county that you're in, and it'll even show you the county you're in. Yeah. Because,
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Jerry did this on, for Mary. Mary was in Mendota, Illinois, and he did this whole thing for her this past week. Yeah. I was listening to part of that. I just wasn't catching all of it at the time. So so you go to raterandymajors.com. They have so many map tools there. You guys have no clue. It's so amazing. They have all these customized map tools. But you go to landymajors.org and you can just put your address in like Joe was saying. And then once you get that information, once you get the township, the range, and the section, you go to the United States Department of Interior, and then you click on Bureau of Land Management, and then you click on Services, and then you click on Land Records, and then you click on General, and then you click on GLO, like Joe just said. And then the very top left, you wanna click, land patent, and then, a page will come up at the top.
And, you it has state, county, and name. You just wanna only put Illinois. That's what what he did for her because she's in the state of Illinois. And then in the third box down, you enter your township, your range, and your section, and you hit search patent.
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Does that make sense? The other day, I was in Social Security, and they wanted a, I gave them my mailing address. And, she said, is that your physical address? And I said, well, it's a physical address, but it's not my domain. She she said, well, I need a physical address. So I gave her my meets and bounds, and she said, I don't know what to do with that. And I said, well, just make a copy of it.
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She did. That was it.
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Yeah. Joe was telling me, and I didn't quite understand this because I am challenged when it comes to history. But Joe is telling me on that phone call that we were on that, my situation is weird because I'm in Virginia, and I'm one of the original 13 colonies. So I don't know, Joe, if you're still on or you're listening to me. You were saying something about Virginia, and you were saying that this maybe would not work for me, or maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.
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It's different there. There's a lot of different private. A lot of that land was owned by people
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even before the constitution was signed. Well, yeah. That's I think that's what he was saying. My my situation is Julie. There.
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Yeah. That was Rick. It was Rick telling you that. Oh, was it Rick? Okay. Yes.
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I don't think he's on. Is he is that is it from Rick from Alabama?
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Georgia.
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Oh, from Georgia. Okay. Yeah. I didn't I I mean, I was writing down so fast, and I was writing down all of the stuff that Jerry was saying so quickly. And then when he was in, educating me on my situation here, which and he was talking about the Northwest ordinance and all that stuff. I have the books on that stuff. I just haven't had a chance to read them. So many lies that we relied on. I've just I've been focusing on this QSIP. That's the Katy Trust account, birth certificate account, because I'm like, I think that would solve a lot of people's problems if we could get access to that and start using it.
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I told you to let Rick talk the other day, and you didn't. He's a surveyor. He knows what he's talking about.
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Yep.
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Yeah. The other thing that I just wanted to mention is, I I see a distinct difference between an elodium and a land patent. Two different animals. I wouldn't roll the words together. I would separate them.
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I would agree, Samuel. And who invented the patents?
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Man, the elodium is really really goes back in history to the kings, and the kings get their power from the bible and you know?
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Right. The sovereign.
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Yeah. I yield.
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And domain is the only word they haven't put under resident. You're you could be almost anything. You could be a a a any kind of serf you wanna be, and you come under resident. Domain is the only one that's absolute. It's almost just like saying Elodial because it is the Elodial claim, the domain.
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Isn't that funny that the Internet has domains? I yield.
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Yeah. But if you type in the wrong if you type in the wrong address or you don't use everything properly, you ain't gonna get there, are you? It's absolutely one way or the other. By the way, that Aladask piece that's 27 pages long with 230 questions, the first thing he attacks is the upper case name.
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Where where do you get that, Samuel?
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It Paul's got it on the matrix stocks. Okay. And then where do I go? Scroll down just a little ways. It it may not I I I've scrolled past it a whole bunch of times before I saw it. So
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Are that the 200 questions that he asks to the IRS or something like that?
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Well, it's 66 from what I remember, and I don't know if it's listed that way there. That was my question today. I've I've always thought that it was 66 questions, but, you know and I figured that'd be a couple pages long, you know, short and sweet. And it's 27 pages, and it's, like, 200 to 30 questions.
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But who are those questions to?
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IRS.
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Okay.
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And supposedly, he never heard back from them. Because how are they gonna answer any of it? Especially when you see the questions he's asking about their Dun and Bradstreet number and how are they a constitutional organization, and why are they using this new name, this AKA? He goes on and on.
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66 questions response to the IRS. I see it.
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Yeah. I don't know why it's there's so many more of them in there. But, anyway, I thought that was interesting. I I thought it was a Mandela effect or something.
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Well, the first question is really funny because it's Rico.
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Actually, the first question is on the name. He talks about Rico in the introduction, but the first yes or no question, I think, has to do with the AKA.
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Yep. He's got his name in lowercase, and then he's got the upper case, Alfred Adask. And he says the use a term used by the IRS sender whose intended meaning is unknown to me as the date of drafting this letter of inquiry, but might signify an estate account security or legal fiction other than a living man whose proper name is Alfred Adask. It's the lowercase.
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That's exactly what they say in the book of the hundreds. Randy Lee said, you know, I don't know what that is. It's not my name. Yeah. He says he's gonna he says that until,
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until I am corrected by the IRS sender, I will it's fine. My all caps name to be a mere alias for my true and proper name, and many others is, you know, capital first and capital last and then the lowercase.
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I do believe that all the land in this country is allodial. That's that's a claim that Broost also makes. But to roll it together with land patent, I think, is improper usage of it. And I think they they purposely would like you to do that,
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and I don't think we should. At least that's my opinion on it. And then he has notice c c 59. I got one of those, the collection of notices and envelope dated 04/20/2009 that were sent by the IRS vendor too, and are actually insufficient for me to form a response without further inquiry. See copy attached.
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Well, I'm at home sleepover, so I'm gonna go in there and see how long I have to stay on a Saturday. I never do a Saturday trip, but worked out that way this week. So I'll see you all later.
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Okay. Have fun. Does anybody know if Rick is on the, FCC or on this call this afternoon?
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He's still on here, but I don't know if he's in the room.
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Uh-huh.
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He's the last name on the oh, well, you can't see the
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the FCC.
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The name of the yeah. Cannot see the list of names, but
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Thank you, Joan.
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I have a question for you guys.
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Yeah.
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This is Victor in Washington state. I'm working on my notices right now, and I've been on Dave's nationalstatus.info website. I did my affidavit from his website, and now I'm on the notices. And, I guess the question is when you're sending all these notices to all these different agencies, Number one, has any of you have any of you use the, what's that form, the, for the post office? The firm book. Has anybody used the firm book? If you have, like, over 20 different notices
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Yeah. And I can, I can answer that? I know lady Linda Louise used the firm book, and I was gonna use it. But when I went to my post office and and asked them for a firm book, none of them knew what the firm book was. They were just absolutely clueless, and I was at the main sorting facility for this entire area where I live. So I didn't use it, but lady Linda Louise did. She said that it was very helpful for her.
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Go ahead.
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I went into the Federal Way post office, and they gave me the entire book, the big old thick book with over a 100 pages of firm book pages.
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I I've used the firm book. I haven't used it in years, but I when I got into this about five years ago, I got a firm book and I used it. I've got I probably sent out a 100 different things with the firm book, so I have, I don't know, 20 pages filled out or something. But I I haven't used it since. And to me, it's it's value it's only value is if you're in court and needing to prove that you know, proof the service. So without a yield.
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So the Yeah. The re book is, it's PS form three eight seven seven. I've used it. I would say for your main notice with the attorney or the the SOS. I would choose a registered mail on that notice, but everything else, I would probably use the firm book because it saves you so much money.
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Yeah. So you said SOS
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and Secretary of state.
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Of The United States Of America. Correct? United States. Yes. Yeah. I did my affidavit, and I did certified mail return receipt. I never got my green card back, but I got the proof on the post office's website. And that's when I found out that they don't actually Yeah. They don't actually
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I did the same thing you did. I did the certified mail return receipt. And then for the green cards that I didn't get back, I just went on to the USPS office, and I typed in the number, and I printed out that it was received by them.
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Yeah. And what I received was response back with an image of a signature. But after tracking it down, I found out that that signature, the image on the website isn't on the green card. It's on a different form that they use, which I found interesting.
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I think the next one that I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do the registered mail, not the certified because that one, they will get you your card back. That one has a, almost almost a a whole paper trail of who touched that letter the whole time that it's been been sent.
[03:51:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I heard it might have been you talking before about using registered mail instead of certified mail.
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Is this is this Carl? Is this Carl Dimuto? Over here. Carl, this is Jerry. How you doing?
[03:51:16] Unknown:
Thank you. Good, bud. You must you must be golfing too much because you're never around when I call.
[03:51:23] Unknown:
So I'm on the golf course right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm planning on doing
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at least three counties in Washington state. So that's all of the police chiefs, sheriffs, district attorneys, on and on. It's gonna be a lot of mailings to do, which is fine. I don't I'm not worried about the money. I was just wondering. So if you do use a firm book, is it gonna be the same thing as you're not gonna do get are you gonna be able to do return receipt, you know, the green card back?
[03:51:59] Unknown:
You don't need return receipt. The only one you really wanna return receipt is the secretary of state of The United States because they have the obligation to let everybody else know, that you are off limits essentially. Other than that, it's just a I and instead of the book, I just print off the the sheets, the p s, thirty eight seventy seven, print those off, and just write on those that save those with the document that you send so that you can prove who's in it. Because you're getting a stamp on from the post office stamps, and then they have to sign in a post office saying they checked the addresses with what you have written down on that document.
And so it's essentially just just an affidavit. That kinda makes sense. That's all it is. But it won't come into play unless you go to court. That's the only time that really matters. And for the Yeah. The cost savings, I mean, you start sending mailings to to 20 different agencies, and that cost starts racking up when you're talking certified mailer, greener seed, where the firm book is only, you know, $2 a letter at the most, stuff like that. It's pretty pretty affordable.
[03:53:14] Unknown:
So when you're using the firm book, are you doing any are you are you doing registered mail or certified mail at all? Or No. You don't you don't need to. You can do just standard mail.
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Okay. Because once you put it in the post office, it is considered receipt, and they they've stamped to say they've received it, which if they've received it, they're going to mail it. Otherwise, that would be federal offense.
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I understand.
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So, yeah, I've got a lot of lot of papers to write for all these different agents all over the state. And the firm book that she gave me, like I said, it's over a 100 pages, and every single page has multiple lines of mailings. And you said that you just said something about you use a different form to have evidence?
[03:54:09] Unknown:
Yeah. So the the the the book is full of forms. It's the exact same form as the p s thirty eight seventy seven. It's the same form that's inside the books.
[03:54:24] Unknown:
P s thirty eight seventy seven? So that's a set of form that you could just do an individual mailing at a time with?
[03:54:31] Unknown:
Well, you put you put if you're gonna do five different people, you put the you have the option to put a tracking number on it. You have you have to put the address, and then that's all you put. When you go to the go to the post office, they stamp they stamp that they've received it. They sign off on saying they they received letters sent out to 47 different, individuals or agencies. And then they're supposed to look through each letter to make sure it matches up with what's written on your form. Know whether they do or no, that's their their issue, not my issue. But, yeah, it's it's the same as a certified receipt in the extent that it is documented that you sent it. And it's used by lawyers.
Lawyers use it. Insurance companies use it. You know, and you think you're just getting a regular piece of mail, but they've they've certified. They've sent it to you. That's why in court, when they say we've we've tried to get a hold of this person, they can prove it because they have this form or the book, and you're stuck going, I didn't receive it. Well, it was mailed to you. You know? So they're getting away with that because that form. And then like I said, I would as you're just an FYI, as you're doing this, changing your your your nationality, I would think about, writing a letter to the different agencies, also letting them know that you are declining or resending all your all your contracts you have with them.
And because you're trying to take yourself out of their system, now it's gonna backfire you with the driver's license because they're the one that's gonna get mad at you. And but by doing that, you're gonna be driving with a a passport anyways unless you're a truck driver. And at that point, I would I would let them know that you rescind your contract that you do not know about, and you want your your thirteenth amendment rights back, you want your you want your fourth amendment rights received back in full, you know, I I would put that in there because when you get pulled over, they like to search and seizure your vehicles, which violates your what is the Fourth Amendment?
And you want that Fourth Amendment,
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right back
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because you don't wanna give it up like you're giving it up normally.
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I understand.
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And resend resend is the word that everyone recognizes. So you gotta make sure you use the resend word.
[03:57:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm planning on after all of these notices are sent, including one to the Washington debate, highway patrol. I'm planning on going the route of the three USB OT stickers and just using the pass court card and buying my own insurance policy.
[03:57:38] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of them teach a lot of them teach the the USDOT. I have a I have a a issue with that to an extent that you're once again giving a government official an authority over you. And I don't know if that's right or wrong. I've heard I've heard left and right. Right? You're two different ways to do it. And I I honestly think the more you stand upon your God given rights and your God given authority and present it that way versus codes and regulations, that's where it's at. That's that's your strong play. But it's you gotta know it's all about knowing the information, which Yeah. I'm I'm at a disadvantage. I don't know the information quite as well. I'm working on it, but until you listen to it 57 times
[03:58:28] Unknown:
I know.
[03:58:30] Unknown:
You're you're just you're getting little fiblets at it.
[03:58:34] Unknown:
May I ask who I'm talking to, please?
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This is Carl in Utah.
[03:58:38] Unknown:
Hey, Carl. I listen to,
[03:58:42] Unknown:
Brandon Joe Williams. I listen to his stuff. I listen to, a good one for traveling is, Cameron Wilson. His his group is insane. Like, they they focus on the traveling aspect and having God given him rights to travel.
[03:59:03] Unknown:
And Is he on Rumble? Or
[03:59:06] Unknown:
I see him on I see him on YouTube, but he's got a group. It's called Wisedome, w I s e d o m e. And it's kind of a pay to play. You gotta pay for a lot of the information because it's just a it's a, you know, it's a forum, and he doesn't let everybody into the forum unless you're gonna put your course a couple bucks. But I listen to him. I haven't paid for that information. But sometimes it's nice to get information, you know, and you have a few bucks to spend. Maybe that's what you wanna spend it on versus going out to dinner for the night. I don't know. It's my thoughts.
[03:59:46] Unknown:
Okay. One final thing is I really liked David and Kaye's website. My one one question I've had in my mind the entire time I've been listening to Roger for three years now is he has his his way of doing it is you do the passport first, then you do the notices. Dave and Kaye do the notices first, then the passport. I'm just wondering your thoughts on this.
[04:00:14] Unknown:
This is David with National Studs. No. We do the we do the affidavit first. Right. Right. Right. And and that's what I meant. First that's Yeah. Yeah. We yeah. We and I think the difference I think the difference sorry. I just I'll interject here, but I think the difference is we recommend waiting a a bit of time after sending your initial, affidavit before you start your notices. But, you know, soon as you mail it, it's in there. It essentially is in effect. So you you could potentially start doing your notices right away. But we like for it to, we like for it to, get in their system, give it some time. I think we say twenty one days, but that's just that's just what we do over.
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Mine's been with the secretary of state since last July last year. The other thing is when you're going about doing your first letter to the attorney general and you have to list all of these cc'd agencies, obviously, there's not enough room on one page to list all those counties and officials. So I think I was on Merkel's Telegram group, asked the question, is it okay to just have another one page for one town, one page for another county as an attachment? You know what I'm saying? You understand?
[04:01:39] Unknown:
I know. The, so I I know myself, I just did a list at the, end of the statement that I was sending them. I just listed them all. It took, like, four pages, And that's all I did. And I I gave each one of them that list. And so they all got on the same list, and then they cut them on top, just saying who all got the letter. So just make it simple. You gotta remember, it's not, you're just stating a claim of of yourselves. It doesn't matter if it's in hand, like, in your personal handwriting or printed on a computer. I mean, it's just you you writing it up with your own 10 man hands is more valuable than a computer.
You know, it just it's your claim. That's all it is. It doesn't matter what you do. I would keep everything short and simple. If I just do it over again, which I I will do it again here coming up. I'm gonna do very quick and simple statements so that they can't it's less for them to rebut, but it's me stating that my claim up to who I really am.
[04:02:46] Unknown:
Well, I think you answered my question by saying that you sent four pages, and that's where I'm getting it is I'm using your your sample notice letter from your website. So there's gonna be, like, at least three pages of all the officials, all the different counties that I'm gonna be sending I'm going to be sending a copy of that affidavit
[04:03:07] Unknown:
to. Yep. Yep. It could it could be. And also, you know, our document builder and the notices, it's one of the gray bars, It actually formats and allows you to add as many agencies to CC as you, as you would like. And I don't know if you've been able to play around with it. It's pretty cool because it again, you can do as many times as you want. It sends the completed document to your email, and then there's a link to a site. I think it's called the I Love PDF or something where you can edit it if you want. So initially, when we built the doc, when we put together the document builder functionality, folks were worried that they were giving putting in personal information in there, but none of it is required. It's It's optional.
So you can create your document, have it emailed to you, and then and then tweak it on your own, edit it on your own. But, anyway, I just wanna mention that that that functionality is available, and it will create the document for you, and it allows you to add as many agencies. And to your point, it could be multi page it could end up being multi pages over.
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I was just on that website this morning, and I actually went to the document builder, and they actually went to the iLO PDF. And when I went to the iLO PDF, I'm assuming that you have to pay for something to use those tools.
[04:04:36] Unknown:
No. No. It's it's free. And, on that on that, I have a PDF. I think it takes you right to the page that allows you to convert it into something you can, into a format that you can edit. But that website has a ton of functionality for various form or, types of forms, formats to to be able to edit. But I think the link we have there in the email that you get with your attached document send you right to where it you can edit a PDF. It it, allows you to convert it into an editable document. But, anyway, it's a little bit of, we try to make it as easy as possible, and create the form for you.
So, yeah, if you wanna, let us know what you think. Just make a comment on the page, and, we definitely watch those and listen to those. So thank you.
[04:05:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That was my final question is once I'm finished, if I use the document builder or if I do it on my own, if I wanted to get it to you to see for you to take a look at it before I send it, how would I do that if possible?
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I'll send you an email.
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You can you can just email us.
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And we can look it up by your by your email address.
[04:05:56] Unknown:
Yeah. We can look it up. We'll know we'll have your email address, But Send us a note when you're done. Yeah. And that's Kate talking here. She, said just send us a note, and we'll we'll take a look at it. And, you know, ultimately, it's gonna be, you know, up to you. We we try and format it correctly but, yeah, it's it's kinda cool because you can keep adding agencies as many as you want, and you can you can do it as many times as you want as well. There's nothing limits. It's all it's all free.
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And that your email address is on the website? Or
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Just admin. Yep. It's it's [email protected]. Admin Okay. @nationalstatus.info.equipment
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right there. It's been sitting there 20
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Okay. Alright. So Yeah. Appreciate that. We can do to help for sure.
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And I also asked a question on your chatbot this morning about those cards that you could print off.
[04:07:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I emailed you back. And I answered you too. I didn't know David answered you. Yeah. I think we both did. This call will be Yep. I down
[04:07:08] Unknown:
I downloaded it. Oh, good. I'm all good. I'm gonna I'm gonna pin it out on some business cards. I have a question. Longer being recorded.
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Yeah. And I think I think that, I can't remember. Kate, did you put an Avery?
[04:07:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There's an Avery label number in there. Which one it'll it should line right up with it. I think it's 5371.
[04:07:30] Unknown:
I can't remember. And, you know, if we're talking about you can go to the store and get the Avery, templated, paper.
[04:07:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I've got a bunch of
[04:07:39] Unknown:
them. Oh, cool. Yeah. Can you just print them
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off? Alright. Well, that's that's my next step that I have to take care of, and I appreciate your help.
[04:07:47] Unknown:
Hey. No no problem. Anytime. Thank you.
[04:07:51] Unknown:
Alright. I'm gonna I yield. I'm gonna hang up now.
[04:07:56] Unknown:
I think something that should be said about that is if you are if you're an individual that doesn't want people to know who you are filling out the form, you can always use an alias then get it so that you can pull it up on your own computer, and you can edit it to print it off that way. And so that way, you're not giving up information if you're worried about somebody giving information about you. So I know a lot of people are kinda cautious about that kind of stuff.
[04:08:22] Unknown:
Yep. That's that's exactly right. And the only required information we need is an email address. And, you know, I mean, I know probably some people don't wanna give up their email, but Make one. But I'll set up one just for this process. Yeah. So you you know, just so we can get the document over to it's all automated, and we don't we don't use those emails for anything but but but that.
[04:08:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not worried about that. If I wanted to make my own Avery sheet with what you already have on there, I could edit that too, can't I? I put my email address on there.
[04:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. If you have card stock, which is, like, eight and a half by a asking if you can modify it.
[04:09:07] Unknown:
You could you could probably use the Aila PDF to see if you can modify it. Oh oh, okay. Because that's just a yeah. Because that's just it's a PDF that'll download. And then just do the same thing and take it over to I love PDF and then add your phone number or whatever you wanna put on there or your email.
[04:09:28] Unknown:
So what I do when I interact with the public is I say, have you heard about millions of Americans switching their status from United States citizens to national? And every single person says no. So I find myself writing on a notepad the matrix docs and nationalstatus.info, and I've been doing this for years. Yeah. Those business cards are gonna be a big help.
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If we can help with that, let us know.
[04:09:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I think, we've got a kind of cross eyed look. You can imagine when we bring up this kind of stuff to people, but Oh, yeah. What will work To get people attention. That's awesome.
[04:10:15] Unknown:
The brochure on there too is pretty good.
[04:10:18] Unknown:
So Yeah. But I've handed out many of those too.
[04:10:22] Unknown:
Yep. Okay. All we did was format the one that Paul had. We just took it off of his site and formatted it, and then off the dock.
[04:10:31] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:10:33] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I'll I look forward to, sharing what I come up with with you guys.
[04:10:38] Unknown:
Okay. Ticker. Okay. Forward to it. Thank you so much.
[04:10:42] Unknown:
Alright. Thanks a lot. Okay. Okay. Have a good weekend. Bye bye.
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That's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on radio.globalvoiceradio.net and eurofolkradio.com. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is thematrixstocks.com. That is thematrixstocks.com. If you wanna join us on the show, you could also find links to free conference call right there on that website. Another website of note is nationalstatus.com. Check check them both out. Pack a lunch and stay the day. Thanks for joining us. We'll catch you right back here next time on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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But you just don't know what to do, do you, Alvin? We do. We got your answer right here. Too bad you're not with us. You could help us promote it a little bit with that wonderful guitar playing of yours. Anyway, we're gonna take another stab at it today, move the, the stone along the path a little bit further, hopefully. It's the August 2 into the new month here as we roll into the fall. And, Roger Sales, your host at the Radio Ranch. I don't believe we have too many people generally with us and supporting us on Saturdays. But why don't you go ahead and, eliminate those who are and do, Paul, if you would?
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Will do. No. Today, it's very light. Just eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and Google Voice Radio Network, My Pet Project. Our archives are on Pod Home. We've got two channels up there. The links to those are on the matrixdocs.com. That's our, primary website. We also have a free conference call, so you can join us live on the ship. We only have, 50 some people. 50
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something in here joining us. You were clipping pretty good right there, Paul, for a second.
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Really? Okay.
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And I think you're better now. It was just for intermittent little thingy.
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Really weird. Okay. I was working with Paul English this morning on some of his settings. He he's trying to get, the VPS that runs Radio Soapbox so he can use some of the system interlinks like I use here because I use three systems to do the show. Okay. And he's trying to implement a similar thing. So Alright. He can either run the station automated on over the VPS, or he can jump in, break in, and do a live show right from his house and have it all be seamless. So,
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am I still solid or or was I breaking up? You're solid. It was just that one little intermittent couple of clips there and then straighten right back out.
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Okay. Alright. Because I had made a couple of changes to my system here too. I wanted to make sure I didn't break anything.
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Well, I hope you didn't. Now we show you hear you loud and clear. No clipping now.
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Okay.
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I guess, we got a little taste of mister Paul yesterday in the after show.
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Yeah. Yeah. I kinda I I dialed him up on Teams. I dialed him up on Teams, and I snuck him into the show.
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Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. I guess I'll have to show have you show me how to use that one of these days here soon. So, anyway, well, it's always glad to have Paul drop by. And and for the new folks, as I said yesterday, he's the guy that he's got a very interesting story. He was fighting a foreclosure, and, he kept running up against chicken slingers. And so, he, and he got very interested in that, learned a bit about it, and got how how can we do something mental mentality and, went out for about a year, year and a half, I think he told me. He just looked at software, freeware, and and went in and read manuals on how to connect these things.
And there when I first started with Paul here, Paul Bieners changed it a bit. But when I was doing this with him initially, it it cost us I think it cost us $20 a month to put on a full time radio station worldwide. I mean, it's like, you you used to have to pay a half a million dollars for a little old short stick on the high end of the dial that was a day timer, you know, or more. And, so it was that's why I always compliment him on being the person that brought this kind of format to us. Okay? So we can do this without selling your ears. I don't wanna bring you and attract you in like a flytrap and then sell your ears. Now some of those products may be good. They may be very beneficial.
But I just don't wanna go through that and accounting and have you paid and and interrupting anything we're into that's complex here with, you know, a minute or two of spots. And, anyway, it's just an ideal thing for me. In fact, Paul tries to come back occasionally. I think he's learned it's not too productive. Coming back to me and go play play some music. You need a break. This and the other I just I just don't I don't think like that here with us. And, so might not be occasional bad to go, you know, utilize the the little boy and girls room or something. But, Right. Anyway, I just like these, flowing conversations, and here, fortunately, we've got some new folks.
I'm assuming Todd keeps telling me I'll be here every day, so I'm assuming he's here today.
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We've But,
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it's If I can explain the difference, you know, between what Paul set up and what we've got going now. Paul had, the mixing software on your portable. You were handling the stream and you were playing the bumper music and you were connected to Jitsi. And we had about 25 people in. So you were the actually, you were not only, the host, but you were also the engineer. And, what we've gone to is we dropped Jitsi and went to free conference calls. So we went from 25 to a thousand people. And you were connecting directly to Euro Folk Radio, and I am now handling the connections, and we're connecting to Eurofocal Global Voice Radio.
Radio Soapbox is picking up the stream from Eurofocal. When Alan is with us, he is grabbing the stream from Zoom, which we added, which we didn't have before. And he is spraying that out to five different platforms, WBOU, Home Network TV, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, Go Live tv, and streamlife.tube. And we went from one computer and one person engineering everything to a host and an engineer. So we went to two people, And instead of one computer handling the show, we went to four computers handling the show because it takes one computer on your end and three computers on my end to accomplish what we're doing today. Okay. So the show, as far as the listeners and the attendees, has has not appeared to change. However, the engineering backdrop has, like, exploded.
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So Okay.
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And for those of you who understood all that, congratulations. So Paul comes on here, gives us all these technical explanations, and I don't know about you, but I don't generally understand. It goes over my head, but I I think he feels better telling us. So, you know Well, yeah. And I mean, Paul was the one that got us on the air.
[00:09:13] Unknown:
And, but it things have changed. And then there was a and then there was a Sarah Westall interview. Yeah. A Sarah Westall interview, and then I showed up, and then the real cockey hit the fan.
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Well, it's good. It's good to have a sidekick on here like you. I appreciate that very much. You're you're pretty you're very good on on the air. You know, I guess, you had some previous experience when you were younger in broadcasting, didn't you, Paul? Yeah. Yeah. I was I was I was in the WBEM,
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FM radio program in high school through Minneapolis Public Schools.
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Oh. Oh, yeah. I've I've I've done the morning drive. Okay. Cool. Alright. Well, that is just somebody that's had broadcast experience. There's just a familiarity there, and it's seamless. And, I appreciate you on there. Appreciate you being there on the left hand or the right hand, whichever one it is. So let's see. Where can we go this morning?
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There there is there is one other thing I bring to the table. I am an absolute bonehead about audio quality. It's it just bothers me when something doesn't sound right. So Okay. Cool.
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Well, we appreciate, being,
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obsessive compulsive. I'm sorry. OOCD. There I am.
[00:10:31] Unknown:
So, gosh. You know, usually, these Saturday shows are a little different. They were originally stuck on couple years ago in the height of the Biden insanity so that people who are looking for answers at work could come ask questions. And we've been continuing it ever since, and it's just generally one of those little different days. Because it's Saturday, we have a pretty dedicated group here with us generally, and, and there's not all the news flying and flashing around to cover and stuff. So sometimes we get off on some real educational shows here on background and stuff, and it's a good day for it, Thursday also. But, those two days are particularly suited for that, I think.
Let's see. What can I go over? One, I had a conversation earlier this week with, with a gal named DJ, Donna Jean, a friend for quite a few years now. Met her through doing networking stuff with John, and, she's, working on a couple of deals. And and I said, well, just come on the air and talk about them if you want to to the audience. So one of these days, Donna Jean's gonna show up and do that. She's got a health deal, and then she's got some sort of a banking gifting deal that's global, that's in a number of different countries. So we'll find out about that when miss DJ comes along. Let's see what else. I want to remind y'all, if I could, because I didn't do it yesterday, if you take just a moment, won't take too long, and send an email to Chase Geyser.
And, I had sent him one earlier this week on Wednesday or something. It was entitled God's Trump card. I put the, interview with Badass Uncle Sam on there because Badass Uncle Sam's affiliated with the Infowars through Band. Video. Asked him to, also share it with Harrison and, did a little couple of a little and one of the things I put in there is do you you do you wanna know why Alex doesn't have access to the thirteenth amendment? You know, in this all this legal stuff he's going through, and he tried to claim they were after his name. And he tried to claim the thirteenth amendment and involuntary servitude, and the law firm replied, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
And they're they're all kind of dumbfounded about that. They don't understand it. So that's one thing I put in the email, and Chase had asked two weeks ago, three weeks ago, two weeks ago, I guess. He was subbing for Harrison for the week. Harrison was on vacation. And, he put a picture on the back backing there behind him of this country, The US. And he said, this is the national government. And then he had DC said, this is the federal government run by elites. And so I pointed that out to him, tried to remind him of that. A very I didn't go into long, just very short sentences. And, the other thing was on a Sunday night, like, week before last, he said he was bitching about taxes.
Where's where's that noise coming from? Right? You want Paul? Somebody messing around with something? Somebody's
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somebody's unmuted. Okay.
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Somebody can mute yourself. Austin, I think, is unmuted. Oh, is Austin here? Oh, well, I'll be darned. Hey, Austin. I'll get to you in just a second, man. Glad you showed up. The other thing was on Sunday night, he was bitching about taxes, and I said, he said, if anybody's got any information on how to get out of the tax system, please contact me. So those two things, remove yourself from federal jurisdiction, all that tax system goes along with that. So I'm gonna give you his email address. If you just follow-up with you need to listen to the Rogers sales information or however you wanna put it, you might wanna go over and throw that link in there, which is over in the new student section on our website, the matrix docs.
Just a little bit down the page, it's got, God's Trump card. That's that interview with, badass uncle Sam. And if you just help nudge Chase with some, follow-up, hey. Listen to this emails. We we may just get us a shot over there. So, that address is chase, chase,@alexjones.network. [email protected]. If you do that and help me with the heavy lifting, we might, we might get our foot in the door over there. I haven't heard back from Anne Vandersteel. I'm hoping to. I'll probably reach out to her this weekend because she had originally told David in their conversation, could we schedule an interview for the fifth and the sixth? Well, that's Monday and Tuesday, and I hadn't heard from her. So, I'll reach out and say, you know, we did just neglected to discuss it in our conversation. There's so much else going on.
But we'll see. That may be next week. Paul, for your edification, I was, gonna do a, interview Thursday with Logan. Remember I told you a couple of weeks ago when he scheduled it, there were some kind of a he had some kind of a scheduling platform in there. And it's just difficult for my eyesight and the magnification I have to go through to read something like that. I just said, look. Could you do it? Excuse me. Just pick a date and do it. You know? Give me a time. I'll I'll work with you. Well, he picked last Thursday, the thirty first, and he sent me that link. And you said, what was the link to? And I said, I don't know. You know? Well, he had another one of these packages that somebody has rigged up for him, and it's a it's a link that goes this says, are your microphones working and all this stuff? Well, I'm on the portable. I can't read it.
And and so, anyway, we scrapped that interview. We're gonna reschedule and probably, we'll either you we'll figure out something to use. Probably use that, but I'll have you, tap into my portable and answer those questions to get the damn thing working. So, anyways, one of those unusual situations normally doesn't happen. So the Logan interview and I did get to speak with him for a bit And, nice guy, really nice guy, very interested in moving to Ecuador. And, so we'll we'll see how that goes. Anyway, so that's where we are on the interviews. And, I feel like with the new infusion we've gotten this week, it's part sorry for my beeping here. I've got some kind of thing happening with the water pump, which is in the room behind me.
And, it's starting and stopping and all that, and it's causing that beep. So I got a guy out here looking at it right now. Maybe we'll find out and get it fixed. He's been doing it for a couple of days. So that seems to be what I wanted to cover. Austin, did you finally come back and get with us today?
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Yeah. So we're, we just had a few vacations there in the the past couple weekends there. So I'm sorry to miss out on any
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conversations that you guys may have had. Well, we're always we're having conversations six days a week. I'm glad you had a little camping vacation. Where'd you go? You got there as big bear or something? We went to,
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to Kernville. So it's, about in between Los Angeles and, Las Vegas there. And I'll tell you what, I I do miss this. A really small town, and it's kinda funny where, you you know, a lot of people reference everyone knows each other. This town knew everyone by first name and last name. It's
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Yeah. It was quite fun. It was one of those deals. Yeah. Cool. Well, I'm sure you had a great time. Camping is fantastic. Is that up in the Sierra Madres?
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Apple Valley. It's just east of, Bakersfield out there. Mhmm. So I'm not sure if they're correct, Sam. But, yeah, the the Kern River is where we camped out at. Alright. Well, cool. Glad you have a good summer vacation there. Is that you and your family? Yeah. It was me and a few friends out there. Okay. The family definitely stay at home.
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Okay. Gotcha. More of a boy's trip. Yeah. My my my my old friend, David Strait, did not not this new David Strait, but my old buddy, and he'd go, my idea of camping is a holiday.
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Yeah. There you go.
[00:19:08] Unknown:
So welcome back. You've had a time then to mull over what we've gone over. I don't know if you've done any additional studying or stuff, but we're glad you're back, particularly today because we've, hit with our information. I did an interview with, oh, Hoyt Kevin Hoyt here a couple weeks ago, and it struck a group that had their own group going. And so they showed up or at least a few of them did on Thursday, and I'm sure there's few of them with us today. So as we go along with you, it will help to educate them too. So that I like that kind of stuff right there. And, you know, the reason we do this is so it's kinda selfish on my end.
If we don't do this education on the air, then everybody emails me with questions. And I don't wanna answer all those emails, quite frankly, on the same thing over and over and over again. So what I do in my policy just for new people who may be with us today is any questions or anything you wanna ask or debate or talk about on the air is absolutely fine and and and free. Now if you wanna come over and get my personal time, hey, Roger. Can you give me a call? You know, all that. Well, I charge for that. Just to try and throw things over here on the air because then everyone's exposed to the question and the answer. If I'm doing that individually, as we really explode, which I think we're right on the verge of, I just don't have the time. Okay?
And, and so that's why I do this. There's a method to my madness. Everything we do here is thought out. So, so we've got at least a couple of those folks, Todd being the leader of that little munch. So I'm assuming they're with us today. You've had a couple of weeks to noodle on all this. We wanted to ask y'all so about your vocation, particularly today, because I can get into a very interesting do you guys, as your firm, do you take, people's IRAs and put them in metals?
[00:21:12] Unknown:
Yeah. So we have a full service IRA department that handles anything between government accounts like TSPs, 403bs, all the way to your more common ones like four zero one ks's and as you mentioned, IRAs. If you have like a brokerage account or a, a Roth IRA, those would be more considered, those would be cash accounts. Yes. But you can roll funds over as well. It's a tax free penalty for events. But with the cash accounts as well, you get the benefit of just getting the metal sent directly to your home address too. Oh, my goodness. Now that's a different
[00:21:48] Unknown:
okay. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna segue into something that makes that very important, and we've been wanting to ask you. Julie said that your firm or you may work up a special deal if people from our audience call you. They may get a shave off a percentage or whatever. But, particularly in light of what the person that brought you to us, Julie, sent me this morning, I've talked about a few times on here. I've got a a rudimentary understanding of it, which is private equity. Are are you familiar with that whole fiasco?
[00:22:23] Unknown:
I'm not familiar with the fiasco part of it, but private equity, yes.
[00:22:27] Unknown:
Well, it's they're they're stripping asset stripping the whole country. And now they've run out of because the way they're set up, and I like I said, I don't have a perfect understanding of it. But the way they're doing it, they go in and buy, say, a corporation, and then this got franchisees, and they go in and bankrupt the corporation with debt. Red Lobster is one. Hooters is another. The people that owned the Hooters franchises are doing fine. The people that had a franchise under the umbrella are, bankrupt. There's a number of other ones. I can't list them all, but I've got, Julie was, kind enough to send us a little short explanation of what's going on. They're they're trying to move into four zero one k's because they've run out of troughs of money to to dip their their evil, pails in.
So, that may be particularly interesting to you if you don't know about it and also to the audience if if by any fortune you got sucked into having these retirement accounts long time ago. All they're doing is trying to get a pool of money that later on they're gonna steal. They're gonna swap out some damn worthless paper for that cash that's in there, and you're gonna be screwed. And that's what's happening right now, and they're trying to move on to the four zero one k's and the retirement accounts because that's the only sloshes of cash left out there. Okay. So, Paul, I sent you. I forwarded you that. We don't have to play the whole thing. It's not very long, but it does.
I forwarded you that this morning. If you could queue that up maybe so we could play a bit of it for the audience and for Austin too. Because these are vicious bandits. They just can't stand to see something that that it that you own that hadn't been stolen yet. It drives them crazy. Okay? And, so they just look for big scams to steal stuff. That's what they do. The whole thing's a scam. As Austin is learning here, the whole financial system's a damn scam. And that's what we're trying to do is expose them on that and see if the the repercussions are severe as we'd like. So, so but, Paul, did you locate that by any chance? Maybe we could get that out of the way before we get in with nits and grits with Austin and the other folks that might have questions.
Did you happen to find that? This is a gal. She had a franchise, and she got taken to the cleaners on this. And so she's, like we are, fighting back. Okay? And the only thing you can do to fight back is expose them. And, the big the the, what is it? $14,000,000,000,000, I think she said. $14,000,000,000,000 sitting in pension funds. I can't believe they've got that much cash in there and had to swap worthless US bonds for them already, which they've done a lot of. But, anyway, if we can find it, I don't know, Paul's off messing with his machines or something. Chasing the cats. He's got a laser pointer over there with the cat or something.
He'll come back. Okay. So, Austin, well, it's it's been a couple of weeks since we spoke. How's our information settled in with you? I mean, you're back, so that's probably a good sign. But I'd like to get your Oh, yeah. Your observation on what you've, come to understand here since you were initially, presented with this info. By the way, you know who was presented with it last weekend? You don't.
[00:25:55] Unknown:
Who?
[00:25:56] Unknown:
General Flynn. Oh, really? It's what we General Flynn hopped on. That's No. No. I didn't say no. I didn't say he hopped on. I said he was presented with the information. K? So we'll see if he hops on or not. That's still out on judgment. But as you've experienced, when you get presented with this stuff, you just don't catch it immediately. Most people by far far don't k. You it take because I'm turning your world upside down. I'm showing you reality and the scam and the illusion you've been in. And it takes a while to get through to people even as bright as general Flynn. Now the interesting thing is, I don't mind saying it here on the air, if if we could ever get organized even in a small way on this particular subject of exposing these guys and put this out where they got where we got a great deal of response, we had a huge audience, hopefully.
We'll get a a percentage of response, and they get maybe 10 to 20,000,000 affidavits in a short period of time and all those people follow through and pull themselves out of the tax system, you're gonna be selling a lot of gold and silver with the price is gonna be a lot of That's,
[00:27:09] Unknown:
Yeah. It's, yeah, that's how we're expected. I mean, when all the central banks are buying in, of course, it's, it's anybody's best guess that it's if the their their economist might know a thing or two more than the rest of us. Right? So it's, it's definitely something to where it's it looks like the longevity is definitely gonna be there. Right. Now, Austin, are you familiar with the, Balfour
[00:27:33] Unknown:
three it's not not the Balfour. Yeah. Maybe Balfour three agreements out of the BIS.
[00:27:40] Unknown:
I'm not.
[00:27:41] Unknown:
Well, you need to something recent or is that No. Balfour three The the recent part of it is it just kicked in in July The it would Oh, okay. It was written twenty ten years ago or so. I believe you can put balfour three and it'll come up. It was written out as a b basil basil. That's it. Basil three, and that is, of course, what they wrote. And and there was an interview with a former BIS director who's retired. I think it was out of Netherlands or something. And he laid the whole scheme out to the interviewer. And this is back in the eighties, I think late eighties. And they said, well, we know what's going on with the paper and the and the metals and the things that are real. And so we understand that that is some place gonna not be equilibrium and that we're going to have to fall back on something to take care of the paper losses that we've had.
And so they wrote this Balfour three agreement. I say Balfour, that but but what? Basal. Excuse me. Basil three. I don't know where I I don't know where I got I said, I got the juice on my mind too much. Chicken slingers. So, anyway, the basil basil three, they did something real important. Now the BIS has been around since the early thirties. And if you ever wanna read the total background on the formation of this, do you know who congressman Louis t McFadden was, Austin?
[00:29:16] Unknown:
Name rings a bell. I can't say what he did or didn't do. He was a great congressman
[00:29:20] Unknown:
in the house back in the early part of last century. He was a former banker, and that he was elected to congress. So back then, the the house had a banking committee. So as soon as he was elected with his background, he was put as the head of the banking committee in the house. He wrote, articles of impeachment for the Federal Reserve that are still active, at least dormant, sitting up on a shelf. If you go look his name up, you'll see some of his famous people. We went over the, the last time we spoke. Did we? Okay. Well, just for the rest of the audience, I might not know. McFadden, one of his speeches, if you put him in a search engine, if it's if they haven't scrubbed it, will be the Jews have all the gold and the Gentiles have all the paper.
So he was very well aware of what's going on. And, he there's a book on the website called the collectives 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden. It was 31 speeches on the house floor live, not this, special ordered stuff they do now. And, they somebody went and pulled them out of the congressional record. One of those speeches, and I don't remember which one because I read that book many years ago. When I first got into this, I didn't understand most of it, but I plowed through it anyway. But one of the whole speeches is on the formation of the Bank of International Settlements called the BIS. That's the Bankers Bank, they call it. It's in Basel, Switzerland.
And, so, if you wanna find out more from a banker that understood that stuff, that's where you go in reference. Okay? But, about 2015, I think, they passed this Basel three Accord. And what it did was it changed the value of gold and metals to the respect of how the bank looks at them and registers them on their balance sheet. Up to this point from 1933 forward, there's been three tiers of assets under a a bank, one, two, and three. And the difference is tier one is the most liquid assets, cash, bonds, stocks, whatever. And they get to carry 100% of that value over to the balance sheet.
At tier two, they get to carry 75% of the value over to the balance sheet. Tier 50% over. Ever since the BIS was formed almost a hundred years ago, gold has been a tier three asset. That's why banks didn't buy it. Well, Basel three switched that, and they moved gold up to a tier one asset. Now they did that in this Basel three back in, well, ten years or so ago, but it just became active this month or last month July. So that's why you've been seeing banks. Have y'all had bank customers or large customers like that, Austin?
[00:32:26] Unknown:
Are we still hooked up? Working as well as listening to this. Yeah. Okay. It's it's all gonna be in and out, just to give you guys a heads up, but I am listening the whole time. Okay. Okay. We've we've had a few big people. I actually ran into somebody yesterday that, purchased gold through Chase, apparently. Yeah. And, basically, they already had a, an executive account, I think the the term was, for them. And, apparently, they're offering it as well. So it is, it is quite something. I mean, like, I I mean, we do an average trade size of, like, a 100,000. Sometimes it's cash. Sometimes it's a rollover. But typically, with those bigger amounts, it's people just don't really have the the resources to provide them that much, unless you go to another, distributor like myself.
[00:33:19] Unknown:
Well, what you're seeing is them offering this to their best customers, I would imagine. Anyway, the word's out, and they've been doing it. I had a very good friend in Atlanta named Tom Cloud. He was one of the top 20 coin dealers in the world. He's retired since. And, I called Tom one day. He said, man, Ron, I said, how you doing? He said, I'm busy as hell. And he said, I have got banks lined up buying gold. Now that was a number of years ago. K? So they've been doing that, and that's one of the reasons that gold had been suppressed in the price so that all of them could get more and gouge at the trough. Okay?
So that is, that's they're still buying gold, but now as of July, it kicked in. Now they're tier one assets. Okay? So that's what's been going on, and, they're just buying it hand over fist. They're not necessarily buying Bitcoin and cyber coins to my knowledge from people that I listen to, but they're certainly buying gold. And, then they're trying to desperately get out of their silver shorts because they every time silver goes up a dollar, they lose a billion dollars in their short on their naked short positions. So we got all that going on, and, that's indicative to me along with the other harbingers, the tea leaves, if you will.
We we got a we got a really big financial situation coming up. Don't know when, don't know how soon, but it may not be too long. K? For those of us who've been waiting for it for Roger. Thirty plus years. Larry, good morning.
[00:34:57] Unknown:
Good morning, Roger. Speaking of McFadden, I'm surprised this was left in Wikipedia because as you might know, Wikipedia is being edited, monitored, and edited by, you know, the Zionists to kinda say what they wanted to say. But anyway Has been this is in, Wikipedia. Yeah. So if you look up William t McFadden, it says McFadden later became a vociferous foe, and this is in quotation marks, vociferous foe of the Federal Reserve, which he claimed was created and operated by Jewish banking interests who conspired to economically control The United States.
In a speech in the house of representatives in December 1931, McFadden accused Paul Warburg, one of the lead forces behind the Federal Reserve Act of having engineered the Great Depression. On 06/10/1932, McFadden made a twenty five minute speech before the House of Representatives in which he accused the Federal Reserve of deliberately causing the Great Depression. Yep.
[00:36:09] Unknown:
Yep. So a great a great American. If y'all never heard him before, I'll tell you how good this guy was. The last time he ran, they finally well, I was red. They murdered him on the fourth attempt at a dinner at the Waldorf Astoria. Poison, of course, their favorite. But the last time that he ran for congress, he was nominated by the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Populist Party. All three parties nominated the same guy. I've never heard that happening before. That's the kind of he wasn't a politician. He was a statesman. One of his I've I've got excerpts on a number of several of his speeches in my book. And in one of those speeches, he says, they're erecting a Machiavellian feudal system.
So McFadden saw it. Of course, he didn't know the end game, but he could see it being shaped up and see what it was conceptually. So great guy. My point being that even though gold appears to be high right now, believe me, it is gonna jump. And I don't know if it's between 10 or 20,000, probably in that range. Austin, were you familiar with a guy named Jim Sinclair? Did we talk about that the last time you were on?
[00:37:29] Unknown:
Let me, let me take a quick look. Jim Sinclair?
[00:37:33] Unknown:
Jim Sinclair. Correct. You used to work worked with, Holder. Bill Holter? No. We did not cover, Jim Sinclair yet. Well, he wasn't. He was still alive at that point. They used to have a little, common website, a little radio show, and you could pay a fee and get behind, get more. Jim Sinclair, you do you he do you know who he was? Are you familiar with him at all? I can't even say the the name rings a bell on this guy. Okay. Well, he was, he was part of the in crowd, and he was the guy back in 1980 when the Hunt Brothers cornered the silver market and drove silver to $50. He was the guy that Paul Volcker, once he was put in by Reagan as over the Federal Reserve, he hired Jim Sinclair to unwind the Hunt Brothers silver position.
So let's just say that he knew where the skeletons were buried. K? And so, after what happened was they they killed his wife. They were supposed to be going on a plane trip somewhere, and he had to back out at the last minute, and the plane blew up and has killed his wife. And he turned totally, I believe that incident was probably pivotal, and turned on them. And, it was him and Holter in an interview. They're just discussing things about the what the price of gold should be. And it's hard to tell because we don't know with counterfeit presses out there in Russia and Iran and other places how many, what appear to be legitimate $100 bills have been cranked out. Okay? So we don't know the amount of circulating paper.
But he said he thought if it was ever equated to the price of gold, the price of gold would be about a 180 to 85,000 an ounce. That was Jim Sinclair. So if we do this little pop here in the, somewhere near future to between ten to twenty, we hadn't even scaled the amount of the fraud. K? So that's my point. Good investment, gold, silver, Bitcoin too, any of the cybers be good now, not any of them, but the specific ones. And, just if you got extra cash around, man, you'd be thinking about this. Be thinking if you got four zero one k's with this private equity stuff rolling up and Trump looks like, from what this girl says, he's about to sign over, access to your four zero one k's and your pension accounts to these bandits.
Get it get it in gold and silver. You can do that. You can do it with our friend Austin here. He'd probably give you a good deal. So, anyway, Austin, that's leading up to all that for the general audience and some of the new people that may not know that stuff. Have you and I know you're working here. Have you had what questions have you come up with in the last couple of weeks as you've been thinking about this, Austin? Clients,
[00:40:35] Unknown:
in regards to
[00:40:36] Unknown:
the trajectory of where we're going? Or Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Not that. Not that. All that. But, you personally with this information and it's settling in with you, what questions or concerns you might have had in the last few weeks?
[00:40:51] Unknown:
Yeah. It's definitely a deeper dive than the most people take. It's really why I appreciate you guys to really do the research and help people like myself out, you know, understand it a little bit further. Because as much as I understand all the first words and stuff, all the inner workings, it's definitely helpful to really have, like, a a grounded idea of what they're trying to accomplish out there. And it was actually Julie that, pushed me to see more into the Genius Act that was passed. And I'm seeing a lot of the cryptos being tied to the dollar now through this stablecoin. And it's not looking too great. You know? It's it's just trying to keep everything afloat right now and but, when I try to put it as this, I I don't think it's I don't think it's without purpose of what we're, you know, intentionally doing to the dollar to, you know, hopefully pay it all off. But we're gonna definitely go over a lot of speed bumps in which to do so. So I'm kind of understanding what you guys are trying to underlay and understand.
And maybe, you know, it does help me kind of get, again, more of a a grounded effort into, you know, seeing the logistics
[00:42:05] Unknown:
behind of what they're trying to operate there. Okay. Well, you know, I'm I'm actually personalizing this for you, and it doesn't make any difference. Really, we'd all love to see you move forward with it, of course. But none of us are gonna ever tell you to do it because your freedom, like your spirituality, is your decision, not mine. I can show you what's going on and answer any questions and help you should you wanna move forward. But if you don't want to, we're not gonna shame you or anything, and that's alright. If you wanna stay a slave, a Jew slave, that's all you know, chickens a slave to the chicken slingers, well, then that's up to you.
But, this this gold stuff and everybody's financial stuff is very important. And, of course, what they're trying to do is steal everything you got and kill you. The the, you say something about paying the debt. Why would you wanna pay a fraudulent debt that's based on fraud? See, only because you have to or they can take your stuff and beat you up, maybe throw you in jail.
[00:43:08] Unknown:
But I was more referencing the the dangerous scheme of the the national debt there. For myself, though, yeah, totally interested. I've have seen it's kinda funny how Google likes to, you know, take a take account into what you're looking into. So I've been seeing a lot more stuff pop up on my computer in regards to, getting off of, getting off of taxes altogether. So, yeah, I would need to do more of a crash course, maybe even a one on one later to really kinda harness down, but
[00:43:38] Unknown:
but the time is coming, Roger. That is very easy. K? And, you haven't probably been around this movement very much, I'm assuming. But years ago, there was a big effort from a lot of people that had been, including an attorney named Larry Beecraft. And the big their battle cry was show us the law, show us the law, show us the law. And, of course, what they were doing was looking in the statutes. They weren't looking in the regulations. So they weren't even looking in the right place. They put a ad in the New York Times, a whole full page ad, anybody that can show us a log of 50,000 reward.
I I wish I'd have known all this back then. I could have collected on that. But, I'll show you the law and explain it to you, and it ain't hard at all. Okay? If you wanna go to your computer, you can follow along with me. I'm gonna recite it to you verbatim. The the location is 26 CFR 1.1 Dash 1 parenthesis small a. 26, code of federal regulations, CFR, 1.1 1 parenthesis small a. Now then before we get into that, let me see if I can get some agreement with you, Austin. Would you agree with me that there's only two political statuses? You're either free or you're a slave? I mean, the two major ones. Yeah. No. There are no, there are no others. You're either free or you're a slave.
So, anyway, let's go in now and look at this. I'm gonna quote it to you. An income tax is owed by all individuals, it's very important that they use that word there because it's us, who are citizens of The United States or residents, so now we know what the slaves are already, and to the extent of eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, all nonresident alien individuals. So we already know which one the slave is. So this nonresident alien, if it's Jose the tomato picker or whoever he may be, that's gotta be the free guy. And the question is, if you think it's Jose the tomato picker, those two statutes that were those the the eight seventy one, eight seventy seven b, they're both constitutional taxes. What would Jose the tomato picker be paying constitutional taxes for? He's he's illegal.
So you get my drift? What they've done is they've hired they've hidden us, the national, under a nonresident alien. What does that mean? Nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment and the state wherein they reside, and alien to the federal government in DC because you're a state citizen. So that's the links they've gone through to hide this in the tax code. Nobody's ever seen it and figured it out before but my teacher, John Benson. And that was the one thing. That's where I used to end all my presentations years ago because I didn't know how to go further than the tax system.
And that's what I've striven to do all these years, and I've accomplished it. Okay? And so that is what you it's in the affidavit you send in if you use one of ours, that that's where they've hidden the national and that it's a fraud. So when you unplug yourself from that, all this $37,000,000,000,000 worth of fraud in the bond market that we owe, Well, it's all gone because it's all based on this fraudulent system of asking you if you're in a condition of voluntary slavery. And they don't ask you the full question. They don't say, are you a citizen of The United States or a national? There's lack of full disclosure. That's first layer of fraud. There's layer upon layer upon layer underneath that.
K? So that's why nobody from the IRS we haven't suffered one blowback. Oh, they'll send you some letters and they're they don't know what to do because they've been caught red handed. See? And so they're trying all these little ways to send you this letter and this, that, and the other, and they're easily rebuttable, and they've never moved on one person that we've been told about. So, that's that's the whole tax thing right there. That's how easy that is. So, if the IRS is your big concern, you can ask some of the people on the forum here. Has anybody been dinged by them? If you had any lien, levy, garnishment, seizure? No. And, so, anyway, that's these things are really simple. They appear complex because of the things they I just illustrated to you, nonresident alien. How they go in, they change that. Instead of putting national, they put nonresident alien.
And, boy, a lot of people have been fooled by that. K? So that's the tax deal. The rest of it is all as simple too. It's just a bait and switch. They set up they they had the original guy, the state citizen. They set up the federal guy after this war, supposedly mostly black. Underneath it is the feudal system. They get a bankruptcy going. They throw everybody in as a surety for that false fraudulent bankruptcy. There's fraud again. Fraudulent bankruptcy. And then the feudal system is imposed on the whole country as a surety for the debt. All the children that are born are born into a silent contract because their parents were serfs. They're born into servitude. And then all they do is ask you as you get over 18. Hey. Hey, Austin. You assist The United States and a resident? Yep. Yep. Right here. Where do I sign? Bam. And now you've agreed with their fraud, and you've given them the consent to govern you in that capacity.
That's what's going on. I mean, that's really how complex this is. So, what, let let's, you're you're working and stuff. So you you didn't have any specific questions, Austin, about all that? And and if not, I'm gonna go over to Todd and his bunch because they're new, and they probably got some questions. But did you have anything particularly you wanted to ask us?
[00:50:08] Unknown:
So the, the affidavit that I would fill out is gonna be on the matrix docs. Correct? And then it's just gonna be pretty
[00:50:15] Unknown:
okay. Yeah. It's one of I'm gonna check it out a little bit. Okay. Well, I can quote it to you verbatim. I wrote it. You can go over to the state department website. They've got a one sentence, affidavit sentence. It says, I, Austin, the gold dealer, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. That'll get you out of it. All is not what you say. It's that you rebut the presumption that's running from you answering those questions. Yes or no in all life. Because you've agreed with them. You've told them you were a slave. You've given them consent to govern you. That's all under what's called a presumption of law.
A presumption of law is a presumption that's based upon another fact. So the original fact is a fraudulent bankruptcy in 03/09/1933. The presumptions are, oh, we've got a service of bankruptcy. We've got all these people over here. We're in this condition where we can have a property ride on them. We'll just put them all in at one time as a surety for the debt. That's the presumption. And then you roll on and agree with it. So all you've got to do is rebut the presumption that you have agreed to this fraudulent. They've got to recognize it because it's fraud.
They can't say no. They can't rebut it because it's true. They can't deny it because it's true. And the only thing they can do, Austin, is stand mute. And that brings in the old silence deems consent maxim. So by the mere fact that they can't address it, they convict themselves by standing mute.
[00:51:53] Unknown:
How about that?
[00:51:54] Unknown:
The most powerful son of a bitch I like that have ever walked the face of the earth in our our general more more wealth, more influence, more bombs, guns, all that stuff. They stand mute, Austin, to one sentence. Now I I'll say this. I've said it before. You don't join us regularly because you work, of course. But I've I've done a lot of historical research over many decades. So I have a lot of other folks here. I've asked the question, has anybody ever in history found or anyone had these bastards in the corner like this? They're in a corner. They can't do anything. And the answer is no.
To our knowledge, nobody else has ever had this knowledge to lock these guys into fraud, especially at this level where the whole world economy depends on it because it's the reserve currency is the US dollar. And under this fraud, we're the damn collateral for it. That's the taxes. Yes. There's Larry again while, Austin. I'm dumping all this stuff on him here today. Yes, Larry. What do you got? Yeah. Yeah. I'd like you to, briefly go over,
[00:53:11] Unknown:
the next step with Austin when you file a legal lawful notice to the IRS. And I have a comment to that after you get done because I think I figured out what goes on behind the scenes using their own words. Okay. Good. Okay. Well, what what happens is that we do this all very lawfully and legally.
[00:53:30] Unknown:
And with total due process, Austin, due process is the well, it's almost the basis of all laws, really. Even over in the laws of city, they have due process. If you're gonna be dragged into something, you gotta be subpoenaed, and you gotta sign it, and recognize you got it, and all that's kind of what we call due process. I'm sure you've heard that phrase before. Due process is ultra important. It's very simple to understand, notice, and the right to be heard. That's due process. Or as Brent would say, the process that's due in owing because it mainly comes from our common law. But notice and the right to be heard. And so what you do, if you wanna follow through on this, you'll take whatever affidavit that you wanna use.
And, yeah, do do an affidavit. You can just do a declaration, but it just doesn't carry the affidavit carries a little bit sharper teeth with it. K? So it just getting into the rise. And so you get that. You send it to our our suggested process. You could probably short sheet this. I'm sure you don't have any skeletons in your closet like some folks might. But the first thing we ask you to do is send a a a cover short cover letter to the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, and, please find the enclosed citizenship evidence. Please adjust your records wherever as to my new political status.
That's all you have to tell them. Okay? And you send that to the secretary of state. You have a certified mail thing on it probably. Don't have to, but you you it makes people sleep better. Then after you've done that with you, I would say you don't have to wait, because I'm sure you've got a lily clean record. But, at some point right after that, you, apply for a passport. Do you already have a passport, Austin?
[00:55:27] Unknown:
Yes. I do.
[00:55:29] Unknown:
Well, what you would do then in that is a book or card or both?
[00:55:34] Unknown:
It it's both.
[00:55:36] Unknown:
You might wanna just go in and you what you would do is you do a renewal, d s 82, include the affidavit in with the renewal request, $30 for a new card, and you slip your affidavit into that package. And then you'll get a new card back that will be attached to your affidavit reflecting your new status with the highest form of ID issued by the federal government. K? So and that's where I found the answer to all this in the passport application, by the way. I knew all the background. I've been looking for what they call the our status, but they change it just like I have it. Here in the tax code. It's nonresonating.
Over in title 42, it's the white citizens. Over in title aid, it's something else. So they they just change the label. You don't bring out a new pig. Look at the new pig. It's got all this new lipstick and this little new tutu on it, and everybody goes, oh, a new pig. So that's all they're doing, just changing the label and stuff. This is why our community, I believe, has made as little progress as we made over the decades is because they don't understand some of this stuff in the back legal technical stuff because they don't teach it in law schools anymore for the most part. And they just changed the label on all this stuff, and our people bite the new label, and they're not studying concepts.
That's why I try and teach concepts on the back end. If you learn the concepts, they can never fool you with their shenanigans again. K? So, anyway, you just send a short cover letter to well, it's not just IRS. It's if you had a piece of property in your backyard and you wanted to build a pond and the EPA has kept telling you can't do that or you did it and they're trying to fine you, well, you can notice the EPA because you're out of that too. Alright? So any of these agencies that may be giving you problems, you can do the same thing with. But with the IRS, we just suggest you send it to the Washington DC office with another short cover letter informing them that that affidavit is now on file with the secretary of state.
If you've gotten a passport back, you could put a passport number in there to reference the status, and you send that to IRS. Well, now they're out of the loop unless you owe any eight seventy one and eight seventy seven b taxes, which I doubt you'll ever owe. K? If it's stocks and stuff or bonds, it's a percentage of what you get back as a dividend. Not the capital gains, but what you get back as a dividend. That's taxable. K? So, that's you send it to them. Now that is pretty much what we call the front end here. Gosh. Are we already at the Whistler? Well, that's pretty much the front end.
And the back end is you weaponizing your position in the state of California. We got a lot of Southern California folks on here too, by the way. And, what you would do is now you would take and serve it on the chief legal officer in the state of California, just a simple cover letter and a copy of the affidavit, and that would be the attorney general. And then at the bottom, you copy your local sheriff, your local chief of police, and your local prosecutor. CC, like carbon copy, where you just send them a copy individually of the of what you sent the attorney general.
Now there's a couple little specifics on there we put at the top of the of the, cover letter, and notice to the principals, notice to the agent, notice to the agents, notice to the principal. That invokes the laws of agency because they're all agents connected under the attorney general. So what you've done is you've locked them all together here. And say, you get a sheriff issues you a ticket when they're supposed to be protecting you from that, and then the district attorney dockets it on the docket. Well, theoretically, at least, all three, the sheriff, the prosecutor, and the attorney general, because you put them on notice of this and they've crossed over that line, they're now all, liable and they lose their shield of immunity.
So you you should be able to sue them in their personal capacity. K? And so, that's what you do. You send that out and wait and see if you get back any answers, but you've done your part. You put them on notice. And, sometimes you'll get a letter back from them. The attorney general of California likes to send back a letter saying we respect the rights of our private citizens. That'll be buried in the paragraph somewhere. But, they recognize it, and so, you're free. Everybody's been put on notice. You shouldn't have any problems. Shouldn't. It didn't mean you won't occasionally, but you shouldn't, and most people don't.
So that's the whole process. It's a little detailed, but it's not difficult. And it all hinges on everybody seeing that they got a copy of that affidavit and what you say and that, it's been on file with the secretary of state. He's the head lord of the manor on all matters concerning citizenship.
[01:01:10] Unknown:
Okay? Roger.
[01:01:11] Unknown:
Yes. There's Larry again. Yes or no? You had a question. Right?
[01:01:15] Unknown:
No. I wanted to interject the comment. So, I do a lot of research studying the, you know, the statutes in The United States code and the code of federal reg the code of federal regulations. And you've always taught us to use, if if you can, to use their own language and laws
[01:01:35] Unknown:
against them, and I think I figured out what goes on behind the scenes. That's the key. What's that? They're you're using their words that they've already defined and they built a whole system on. That's why they've gotta recognize them. It's the key in the matrix. And so I I
[01:01:52] Unknown:
Go ahead. I think I figured out what goes on behind the scenes when you send in your legal lawful notice to the IRS commissioner.
[01:01:59] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:02:00] Unknown:
You're letting them know, obviously, that you're no longer a US citizen or resident. And, this comes from, what what I'm about to read comes from a flowchart from the IRS website that I I just I just discovered this a couple of weeks ago. And, it it instructs it's a flowchart that instructs the agent on how to deal with a nonresident alien. And just like you've taught us, when you become a national, you're classified as a nonresident alien in the IRS data banks. And, and the thing about it is, when you when you study that word nonresident alien in either the statutes of The United States code or the code of federal federal regulations, like, more than 95% of the time, it's always referring to what I call a nonresident alien foreign national of another country. Yes.
Very few times is the nonresident alien referring to what I would call a nonresident alien national or citizen of The United States Of America. So they they don't differentiate between those two, those two individuals, you know, a a nonresident alien foreign national and a nonresident alien, national of The United States Of America. They do that as you've taught us. They do that on purpose. So, anyway, when you send in your legal lawful notice to the IRS commissioner, this is what I think goes on behind the scenes. Because before I read this, there's there's always been a lot of confusion over the years with, students wondering, you know, what's the difference between, filing a revocation of election and sending in my legal lawful notice? Well, here here's the answer to that.
So here's what it says. Once the election is once the election is made, it remains in effect for all subsequent taxable years, except for years for which the election is suspended or terminated. So this is talking about the nonresident alien foreign national, and it does apply also to the to the nonresident national of The United States Of America because they're both classified as nonresident aliens. And the statue in The United States code at sixty thirteen g deals just in general with nonresident aliens, and that's also the statute that deals with revocation of election.
And all revocation of election is is sending in a note or a brief statement telling the IRS that you are you are no longer going to volunteer. You're revoking your election, and you want the account terminated. So the IRS in this flowchart, they use these two terms, suspended and terminated. So it goes on to say the election is suspended for a taxable year. If during that taxable year, neither spouse is a US citizen or resident. So once you send in your your legal lawful notice, letting the IRS commissioner and and his agents know that you're no longer a US citizen or resident, and here's and here's my proof, here's my evidence, and you sent a copy of your affidavit of citizenship evidence, they now see you as not a US citizen or resident, and therefore, according to their own, you know, their own inner workings of their flowcharts and how they have to govern themselves, they suspend the account.
And so it isn't until maybe later on you wanna make a decision that you want to execute a revocation of election, then when you do that, you are terminating the account. So I'll read this one more time, and then I'll and then I'll, let it get back to you. Once the election is made, it remains in effect for all subsequent taxable years except for years for which the election is suspended or terminated. The election is suspended for a taxable year if during that taxable year, neither spouse or a US citizen, neither spouse is a US citizen or resident. And then it goes on to say the election can be terminated at the earliest of either of the following. And the first thing it says is revocation made by either spouse by filing a statement of revocation on or before the last day on which the return for that year is due and that could go all the way up to the last day of the year and if you file that revocation of election, then you can claim back that whole entire year. Yep.
And that also is true for your legal lawful notice. Yeah.
[01:07:05] Unknown:
So there's a lot of technical jargon of why I hated IRS, dealing with it, and I went the other way on jurisdiction. But that I'm pretty sure that is what's going on in the background, Larry. Hats off to you for God's stomach and reading through all that crap. Question. Yes. Question.
[01:07:28] Unknown:
I really, really got a hook in my craw on the term neither spouse. So and and there's no clarification on with respect to filing status, either, filing as single, married, filing separately, joint filing. There's no determination about that. It's it's left ambiguous, and I believe so for a reason. Now they may if, like, let's say there's a national and the spouse is still a citizen and they're playing both sides of the fence, that could be interpreted by the IRS to, be that it is still a citizen household. You know what I mean, Vern? Because there's no determination
[01:08:18] Unknown:
as to filing. Well, the next year, you the person that's still in the systems file separately, set them jointly. Turn in the paperwork. The other spouse that isn't in, we've got that situation. It's filed separately. Now they're gonna pay a higher tax rate because they induce everybody to get in and lower your tax rate a little bit. But that that's one way that would alleviate that, Paul, I believe.
[01:08:43] Unknown:
Right. But I think what they're doing is that they're operating under the presumption that if either of the spouses are citizens, then they are, then then they're bringing an income into the household. And if the national in that household is still receiving a benefit from that income, I'm thinking the IRS is gonna say, oh, no. No. No. No. You guys We've been You got a joint checking account. You're benefiting from taxable income. You know, at all these years, we've never had any response like that. So could, maybe, yes, coulda, you, shoulda, woulda, but they haven't. So without getting too technical and you start losing a lot of new people, can we kinda cut curtail this? That's just my OCD kicking in. Sorry. Okay.
[01:09:34] Unknown:
I I mean, I'm trying to talk to people that are new at this, and you're going into the super advanced class, Larry, at this point. So you want you got anything else to say about it? Well, I just just
[01:09:46] Unknown:
well, just to answer Paul's question, remember, what I just read from is a flowchart that's that's made to help the agents, the IRS agent deal with a nonresident alien for national. We're hidden behind that Correct. Because they don't differentiate between the two, entities, the the national and the foreign national. And so, you know, when it when it uses language about your spouse not being a US citizen, etcetera, that's because, if you if you are a foreign national and your spouse happens to be a a US resident and a US resident alien or a US citizen, if you are permitted to work in The United States, then you can actually make the election to be involved and file a joint ten forty, and so that's what all of this language is directed toward. And so if that foreign national who is now filing joint 10 forties with their US citizen or US resident alien spouse decides that they want to revoke that election, then they can do that. And then all they have to do is attach a statement saying, I'm now going to revoke this election.
Like, they gotta send some statement to the to the IRS. So, again, all of this is applicable to the nonresident alien foreign national. However, because we are in that same category as nationals hidden behind the, the non resident alien foreign national, we could take advantage of the same process. We could take advantage of the the statutes in The United States code, and they have to recognize it.
[01:11:38] Unknown:
Okay. It's just a bunch of deception as a whole it is, but it's still taking advantage of it. It's just like hiding us behind American Samoans. We hadn't even discussed American Samoans with Austin or the new people. So, anyway, thank you for that research. Larry's good at researching that stuff. I hate reading that crap and trying to interpret. That's why we're over here talking about concepts and jurisdiction. So, I I hope I hope they didn't confuse anybody. K? I try not to get complex like that on here because if we've got new people, Larry, it goes right over their heads. K? So, that that's swine. But I appreciate you doing that. Right. That's why I was I was I was trying to keep that simple too. Yeah. Well, there's no way to keep the I only way to keep the IRS simple is to do the way I do on 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a. Otherwise, you get into debt tax fusion regulations, and there ain't one damn thing simple in there, and it's all meant to obfuscate and confuse.
That's why I don't go there.
[01:12:43] Unknown:
Right. K. I'm and, again, that long explanation is when you send in your legal lawful notice, you are you are mutually agreeing that this the account is gonna be suspended. And later on, if you decide to do a revocation of election, then you are telling them to terminate the account. It's just as simple as that. Alright. Fantastic. Can we put that to bed?
[01:13:08] Unknown:
Thank you. Austin, I'm gonna come back to you. You're welcome. Austin, I'm gonna come back to you. What I'm trying to get at is do you have any personal questions as it applies to you personally, that may stop, impede, or or or facilitate you moving forward? I'll leave that up to you. Okay. Well, I'm assuming Austin's working or something. Todd, are you with us? You and your bunch with us today?
[01:13:33] Unknown:
Good morning, Roger. Hey, Todd.
[01:13:36] Unknown:
See How are you today? I see this kind of stuff we get into around here.
[01:13:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Listen. I just wanted to say hello. We have about 30. I am so we're so blessed that we have about 25 to 30 of my family members in here, and I sure enough wanna go through a couple more steps. Okay. But we have it all in that situation, Roger.
[01:13:58] Unknown:
Yes?
[01:14:00] Unknown:
We have it all a very, tough situation. Terry's trying to get in. I don't want it to get too off subject because I love my new people to hear all the stuff about the evidence, and, hopefully, they're watching the chat. But remember we were talking about, Kevin Hoyt over at Grassroots that you were at an interview with? Yes, sir. Okay. Well, it's within about nine to ten hours, he had a switch on his rumble where if a video came out, He is not there. Something happened. Oh. So he is missing him and his daughter.
[01:14:37] Unknown:
Well, they you know, they were after him. I told Julie. I said, if there's anybody from what you tell me that needs our information, it's Kevin. And if he eight or hours after whatever, he didn't have time to do any paperwork. So I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:14:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted it to be on the record and to let everybody know. Terry was gonna come in. She's having trouble unmuting. How do you unmute so Terry can just tell you a little bit quicker? I believe 6, isn't it, Paul?
[01:15:05] Unknown:
Oh, Paul. I believe it's 6.
[01:15:10] Unknown:
That's 2. Yeah. She's having trouble with that one. I think it's a three digit number as Paul said in the beginning.
[01:15:17] Unknown:
Okay. Let's see.
[01:15:19] Unknown:
6. Okay. Terry, 6 if you can. Anyways, until she comes in, it's, he's from the Grassroots Networks on, Rumble, Grassroot Warrior Network. I just want that everybody to be aware. Go in to watch his his last video. It's a if I don't check-in video that he never wanted to post. With that said, I have a lot of brand new people in here, Roger. If you could just have to talk to you and your team with just, like, where they how easy this is. I gave the website and everything on the chat, but if if you if I can go quiet and you could talk. I have another one that wants to talk about the contract.
[01:16:03] Unknown:
Current contracts. I know that's not the first thing you should work on. Contracts. Well, the one you file this affidavit, they're all because they're all based on fraud. It doesn't matter. You don't have to go back and undo every con all you have to do is do the big one. All the other ones fall on. There is under you. Hello? Is that Sarah? Roger. Okay. I'm sorry. Roger. As there you are. You found it. Hey. It's Carrie. Right? No. It's Gigi. Oh, it's Gigi. Okay. Well, I can't get y'all's voices from you yet.
[01:16:34] Unknown:
Okay. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm pretty good. How are you? I wanted to know if the guy is still on that was talking earlier about the four zero one k. Remember I was talking on Thursday about, trying to get my four zero one ks, but, Charles Schwab wanted me to do a w nine and then they switched up and said I can do a w eight, but it was one of their w eight and not particularly one from the IRS.
[01:17:07] Unknown:
I wanted to know if he can ask that question. If it's not a w eight, it's it's acceptable by them, and I think it'd have to be one of their deals. I think I told you the other day, though, that we've got a fella that John Kasarab, an old friend. He'll be on Monday, I hope. That is a forty year financial planner And and probably knows these areas better than most of us, although Austin may know a little bit about that. I don't know. But, yes, we know you've got that that situation. Can you can you hold it till next week?
[01:17:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I thought it was today, so I have the date mixed up. Okay. No. Monday, John will be with us Monday. We probably Okay. I'll be on on Monday. Thank you. I got great. Now Austin here,
[01:17:53] Unknown:
maybe somebody if you what do you you you want the cash out. You don't wanna take it over in the metals. You just want the cash because of your situation. Right? Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's wait till Monday if we could. But John should cross your fingers. John should be back. He might not be back at the top of the hour. Good. Because he's got some kind of a marketing thing before that, but he comes on somewhere in the two hours there. Hopefully, it'll be early. Okay? Now who Sounds good. Thank you. You're welcome, Gigi. Who, now who now I'm lost. Who are we supposed to be addressing? You said a guy about contracts, Todd?
[01:18:33] Unknown:
Jerry's unmuted.
[01:18:35] Unknown:
Yes. My I have my friend, Tony. Tony, why don't you unmute your phone and ask your question?
[01:18:41] Unknown:
Hey, Tony. Oh, Tony. Gary's unmuted. Hello, Tony? Yep. Earth to Tony. Well, Toni, I Yeah. Roger, if
[01:18:55] Unknown:
if Tony Okay. Terry if Terry is available.
[01:18:59] Unknown:
Okay. There's a female here. Roger. I Is that Carrie? Hi, Roger. This is Terry. This is Terry. K. Is it t or c? T as in Tom. Terry. Okay. I gotcha. Hi, Terry. Terry.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Hi. Yeah. I was just going to, let you know about what happened with Kevin. So, Todd kind of introduced that. And is this a good time just to let everybody know that we just need to the word out about him? Well, let's do that. Okay. Well, Kevin has a video up on Grassroots Warrior Network that says Kevin is missing in the in the subject line. And he has if he doesn't check-in within twenty four hours of his check-in time, then they post this video. So that was just posted about nine or ten hours ago that, we just wanted to get the word out that Kevin's such a great guy. He's been exposing child trafficking. And many of the, not so good people connected to the government, the police in the state of New Hampshire.
And so his his video is, probably it's the second one now, on his channel, his, Grassroots Warrior Network Rumble channel. And it just lists all the things he's been investigating. And so now he's not checked in, and he's missing. So we just wanted to let people know, if you're a praying person to pray for him and that he's found with his daughter. His daughter's, like, four. And that all of the good work that he's been doing is, not in vain because he's exposed so much child trafficking in that state. And the connections between the governmental bodies there and the the officials that are sheriffs and police officers.
So we're just very concerned about him and just wanted to let the let these listeners know. Mhmm.
[01:21:14] Unknown:
Well, that's understandable. I know New Hampshire's a pretty rotten state. They got Sununu and stuff up there. I've heard a lot of rumblings about all the corruption and and etcetera. I know Kevin has crossed swords with him before, and, let's hope that something happened here that's innocent that he just hasn't responded back. Don't know. Praying would be a good thing. Exactly. And, just, for everybody that is Kevin Vance, and I am too. He's a very nice interview. Good guy. And, we'll, hopefully, we'll help him out at some point. But you first thing he needs to do is get some of this paperwork in.
K? Now he may not realize the importance of that, but but it's really important for him to change statuses because then they can't continue to pursue him without potentially getting this information dragged into a spotlight somewhere. And that believe me. They don't want that. They're scared to death of this information getting out. K? They're not gonna be able to stop it. I can understand that. Yeah. Of course. They lose here's the for the new people, here's what happens when you file one of these affidavits with secretary of state. Two things happen, and I guess the best I can figure simultaneously, Terry, you get your freedom. They can't say no because it's your decision.
And it's based on fraud. That's second aspect. And they get exposed from top to bottom, and there's nothing they can do about it. Nothing. Except no. There is one thing. They can take the mask off and be open tyrants, and they know what happens to open tyrants. What we'd like to happen to them is is tall trees and short ropes.
[01:23:03] Unknown:
K.
[01:23:06] Unknown:
Well deserved as well. Oh, they've earned it. Boy, have they earned it.
[01:23:10] Unknown:
They've earned it. Yes.
[01:23:12] Unknown:
And I would like to Yeah. Oblige them. K? So, any anything else on that situation? I appreciate you letting us know about it.
[01:23:22] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I I think there's several other rumble channels, and Anne Vandersteel is another one that has been contacted. So they're gonna start getting that word out. Michael Jaco, that those kinds of people. Okay.
[01:23:37] Unknown:
Well, I should be in contact with miss Vandersteel here in the next day or two. So I will will ask her about it, and I may be on her Bryteon there on her show next week. So that was what was flowed in. We didn't agree to it. We didn't come up in our conversation, but I think that's what she had in mind. So I'll try and find out over the weekend if we're on or not, if it gets delayed. So, Terry, good to hear from you again. Anything else you wanted to bring forth? Yeah.
[01:24:06] Unknown:
Just one more thing because, and this is the change of subject. That's okay. You were talking about filing filing things with the IRS and making this affidavit and and all the declarations clear, you had also mentioned something about making sure you don't tell the IRS this is a filing because then there's a fee of $5,000
[01:24:27] Unknown:
in just a frivolous filing. Can you just make that clear? Yes. The other thing on the IRS notice, I gave you the notice to the state people notice the principal's notice to the agent Over on the IRS, cover letter at the top, you wanna put lawful legal notice, big capital letters. And then you wanna say this is not to be construed as a filing or this is not a filing or whatever because they have attempted early on to hit people with this little mysterious regulation they found to call frivolous filing penalty. I got three of them, ten thirty years ago, Terry, but they were only $500 then. They're 5,000 now. And, so you wanna put that so that they don't come back and and try and play play that game with you. We try and cut them off at the pass and preemptively, strike everywhere we can. Okay? That's the way to beat them. You don't beat them by getting dancing with them. You beat them by a preemptive strike.
K?
[01:25:34] Unknown:
Yeah. And that's on the cover letter?
[01:25:36] Unknown:
Yes. At the top of the cover letter.
[01:25:39] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:25:40] Unknown:
Okay. And, so that's just things that you know, our process here that we talk about and suggest to you is something that's just been developed over years. You know? For instance, Kaye, one of our old time listeners, still with us occasionally, was hell bent to file get this in the property records office. It was right during COVID. And, they they wouldn't let you come in. You had to deal everything through email or over the phone, and the girl she was dealing with says, no. We won't file this. And so she's on here, you know, like a wet hen. And and and as well, what else can I do? So, well, let's see. Who's the top legal official in the state? Attorney general. So that's where this switched. The secretary of state of your state, all they do is, incorporate businesses, collect fees, all that kind of stuff. They're not like the secretary of state of The United States.
And so, when you don't file with them, you go over and file with the AG on what I just suggested to you, and that's come out of just trial and error. Was that Mark? Did I hear Mark? Yes, sir. He's usually with us on Saturdays. I don't know where he is today. He's one of our, our paralegal guy. He's got a lot of responsibility taking care of his elderly parents right now. But, usually, he's with us. Very good source. He's been a paralegal for over twenty years, and adheres exactly to what he was getting ready to leave the country, and then he stumbled on our information. And, it has been a quite a revelation for him and everyone else for the most part.
So, alright. Did that get you, Terry? Yes. Thank you very much. You're very welcome. Where are you, by the way? What part of the country are you in? Oh, I'm up in the state of Maine. Oh, are you? May Boy, they have ruined they have ruined Maine, have they? Good lord. The things and stories I hear coming out of there are horrible.
[01:27:45] Unknown:
Yeah. It's pretty corrupt for sure. I'm sure sorry.
[01:27:49] Unknown:
Beautiful place. Yeah. It's very blue up here. Yes. Unfortunately. Beautiful to live here. But Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Lovely country. So let's see. Now, Todd, did you have anybody else or is there anybody else with questions or whatever? Some of you new folks Roger,
[01:28:06] Unknown:
well, first, if there's any other questions, I just wanted to read something, from your website and that I think would be very important for all the new people to hear if that's okay. Sure. Everybody, if you go on to the travel.state.gov website Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zone
[01:28:24] Unknown:
I'm sorry? Yeah. I'm I know where you're going now. Go ahead.
[01:28:28] Unknown:
Yep. You you obviously have the top, but I just wanted you to, dig dig around a little bit on there and kinda roll down to the bottom. And it's funny that this section is really out of place and seems to be the last one. And I'd like to read that to you, section three zero two of public law 94 dash two forty one. That's kind of a them telling us to do this. Let me read this to you. Any person who becomes a citizen of The United States solely by virtue of the provisions in section three zero one applying to those born in the or residing in the Northern Mariner Islands Oh, yeah. Yeah. May within six months after effective date of defection or within six months after reaching their age of 18, whichever is later. Now here's where it comes in becomes interesting.
Become a national but not a citizen of The United States by making a declaration under oath before any court established by the Constitution or the laws of The United States or any of the court of the record in the Commonwealth in the fall form as follows. I, Todd Lang, whatever, being duly sworn, hereby declare my intention to be a national, but not a citizen of The United States. It doesn't get much clearer than that, Roger. It doesn't get much it doesn't get much simpler either.
[01:29:53] Unknown:
And that's what we found. You know, one of our listeners found that. I didn't know it was down there. The paragraph you read above it about being in 18 in the Northern Marianna Islands, I've I've I don't know. Mariana Islands used to be hooked up with American Samoa. And see, that's something we haven't even talked about with you and your bunch is American Samoa yet. Okay?
[01:30:15] Unknown:
And it's very important. That's their little trick, but I digress.
[01:30:18] Unknown:
Yes. And I and and, again, back to what I was telling Austin earlier, all you're looking to do here is not necessarily what words you use, although, obviously, they're important, but that you rebut the presumption. That rebuts the presumption and is very accurate worded too. Now let me for the audience, I will tell let me see if I can recite it pretty close. What we wrote, and this the one that we have on the website is suggested. There's two paragraphs. First one is for the state department. Second one's for the IRS. And the first one says, I, Todd Lang, do solemnly swear under the penalty of perjury of the laws of The United States Of America, there's a reason that's in there, My intent to be a national with God given constitutionally protected capital r rights and not a person in voluntary servitude under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment.
Now there is no wiggle room there. None. K? The second paragraph says, as a national, I am identified at 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a as a nonresident alien, very deceptively. I think I put the word deceptive in there. Deceptively identified as a nonresident alien, nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment, and alien from the federal government. No wiggle room there either. You're rubbing their their you're rubbing their noses in the crap they left on the floor. K? That's what's happening just like with your puppy. So that's, people wanna get more verbose, and you've studied law all these years. And I'm in per se, a persona, and sui juries, and You wanna throw all this lat you don't need to do that.
Make it as clear and as simple as possible. One of those two would be the one I suggest. Either one you wanna use for whatever reason, fine with me. K?
[01:32:31] Unknown:
So does that answer that? Just so I would I would use Roger's way only because he's been doing this, huge generations over a hundred years, and I have not had one rebuttal
[01:32:41] Unknown:
from one of his students as he's the teacher of students. Don't give him the impression. I'm over a 100. I'm not. I'm just the third guy in a line of over a hundred years of dedicated historical and legal research into this issue. My teachers, god bless them, they just they were so focused on the tax issue, they couldn't see the big picture. And I got so aggravated with the tax issue, especially after fighting IRS in federal court, that, that I was looking for another way. And I kept looking. I kept looking. I kept looking. I did it the reverse, Tom, because I didn't understand it totally yet at that time. And so I was looking for things that I could do. I knew I was out of the system because the IRS told me I was when they took $35,000 from my house closing. K?
And, so I was kept looking for ways. What can I do to get back in this thing? Lick in those woods. Exactly. And and and if I can find it, does it work to get out of it? And so I went for years looking at it like that, thinking about it every day constantly. And, and then, I got a little voice. I'm I my wife passed away in Atlanta. I left Atlanta, moved back to Florida, family home, big family home, mother lived there by herself before she passed. And so, I was down there, and the little voice came to me in 02/2007, probably about in July or June 2007. And it had come to me previously years before, and and so it said you need to get out.
That's what it said. And I I I looked around and went, wow. Well, I where would I go? I don't I don't know any language. I don't don't have any connections anywhere else out of The US. And so I kinda put it on the back burner a few days or a week later, it came again. You need to get out. I learned when you hear it the second time, you need to heed it. Okay? And so I did. And I, had a friend that had property down in Argentina. He's one of my buddies from the record business. Used to work for The Beatles. And, so Riggins had some property down there. Fincas, they call it. That's Spanish for farm.
And they kept trying to get me to come down there. Told me how great it was, this and the other. I never had a passport, and I didn't follow-up on it. Well, now I had an anchor to go to. And I saw a TV program on Argentina in the on PBS, Globetreckers. And, I made up my mind to move after the show, quite frankly. And so, I had to go get a passport for the first time. Always had, you know, a scared interface with the federal government like everybody else. And, went to the post office, got both eleven and 82, came home, picked up the 11 because it's first time, and that was me. And at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen damn years.
That answer was two things. A statement that says, the state department, secretary of state of The United States Of America. And then down below it, on the first page of the written thing back then, they used to have a warning box. They hide it in the instructions now. We could probably go over the passport application. I can show you where they're doing this and why. But the warning box, like a warning box, black box warning, they call on pharmaceutical drugs and stuff, except they don't have the rectangle, the black box. They've just got warning in big capital letters. Used to be at the top of that first page, and then, of course, the application was at the total opposite on the opposite end, the fourth page. So they tried to get you separated from that just as far as they could.
And the reason is they've got to put the answer in the passport application because a passport we've got an eighteen eighteen thirty five Supreme Court site on this. Never been overturned. It's very difficult style. Do BRCVDR Ubudu two V DRC is the best I can come up with. You were too sweet. Okay. That too. Yeah. Back then, there was only one status. You know? There was just a state citizen. And so there wasn't any confusion as to the two. And it basically says the site that a passport is a document under the law of nations, Patel's law of nations, which is issued to present you to foreign countries. It is an ex parte document, which means it's a separate part, and that if the matter is of citizenship, that it what the papers that are in possession of the secretary, if admissible in a court of law affidavit, should be considered the higher and better evidence.
So it's not what your passport says. It's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary. K? Now early on, when I was still with John and Glenn, they had one of the guys lived in Nebraska had written the secretary of state in Nebraska to write him something that he was a Nebraska state citizen because we knew about these separations back then. He wrote him a beautiful letter, gold embossed on the sides with ribbons and hella everything but dancing girls neon lights on there. And, it said, this is to certify that so and so is a proud Nebraska state citizen.
Well, hell, he's waving it around. We all want you can still find that on the web somewhere. And, so we all wanted one of those. And I wrote to Florida, and the secretary of state wrote back and said, well, I'm sorry, man. I can't do that for you because the secretary of state of The United States has all final authority over all matters concerning citizenship. Now that there's the answer right there. But I was so green that I didn't have enough other information to plug it into where it made sense to me. But later on, twenty something years later, when I went to apply for that passport and read that passport application, that sentence, which had embedded in my subconscious, came back to me.
So there at the top, it says secretary of state of The United States Of America. That sentence comes back. He's the big guy. And then warning. You can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits, but you better not lie or we're gonna hit you with seven or eight sections of The United States code here. Well, they don't tell you to attach what for. They just say you can. Well, that was me knowing when I saw the word affidavit is when everything came together. Bam. Just like that. So that's how I stumbled into this. Now since we're on the passport application, let's go into it just a little bit.
[01:39:49] Unknown:
Actually, I'm important. Yes, Paul. There, we had a caller this morning. She she called in about nine 09:00 eastern, and I pulled her out into one other room, and I was talking to her. She is still working on the secretary of state resisting her on her passport application. So I think this would be a perfect time for her to come up. I believe her name is Mary. Gigi? Oh, Mary. Oh, Mary. She was on the other day, wasn't she? Yeah. She is. She called in this morning,
[01:40:22] Unknown:
and I was talking to her. Let me just finish this. We still got about twenty minutes or so here. So we got a little time. I wanna finish this up. So if you go to the passport application, the reason this information's in there is because of Watergate. After Watergate, they passed a piece of legislation called the Paperwork Reduction Act. And that dictated that every agency in the federal government that issues what's called an information gathering request, asking you questions has to take that paper that they're gonna put in the public, run it over to the OMB, have them go through a very strict stringent checklist procedure, and make sure that it's constitutional.
When they do that, they issue you an o m b number. You put the number on the form. Now you can issue it to the public. So it has to go through quite a stringent little, little security procedure here. So does the passport application. And so, they have to be telling the truth in there even though they go to great lengths to hide it. So if you go back to the, application itself now I'm gonna quote you what was the one that I did this they've changed the they've changed the whole passport oath since I started teaching this stuff, folks, to cover their damn slave and asses, what they did.
So, anyway, the old, oath says, I swear under penalty of perjury that I'm a citizen of The United States or parenthesis, a noncitizen national and have not since acquiring United States citizenship, parenthesis, US noncitizen nationality, violated any of the acts and conditions listed on page so and so in the instructions, parenthesis, unless explanatory statement is attached. Again, I swear under penalty of perjury, the foregoing is true and correct. Well, here, they've got these important issues, two different statuses. Twice.
They've changed. I think it's only in there once now. And right after that, if you violated any terms and conditions, well, what are those? Well, those are banging, you know, little boys or girls in Bangkok or getting caught in the drug trade or, arm smuggling or whatever else. But they tell you right there in the oath to attach an explanatory statement. Well, right up above it with these two statuses, they don't tell you jack squat. Now how they changed it, they've altered the wording. It's still basically the same. But now they have little four or five check boxes under the oath, and you've gotta check each one of those yes.
And the last one is, I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions. So that's what's going on. They had to cover their ass. They had to tell you that you're volunteering into slavery and can volunteer out with the warning box, attach affidavit or documents, but they're never gonna tell you what for. So that's why if the secretary of state is gonna issue you a document that's going to present you to foreign nations, the secretary of state, if it's correct, gotta have your correct political status in, doesn't it?
Well, they've got this rigged where if you don't, it's like a lobster trap. You guys are up there in Maine. It's like a lobster trap. The lobster get in real easy, but he can't get out. That's what this is. And so they hide how you can get out just as thoroughly as they can. And, so to get out now, that's why I said everything's under presumption because you've always agreed with it. Now you're and they add they don't ask you if you're a citizen of The United States. They presume you are. And then the only way to change that is to slip your affidavit in the package and tell them otherwise. That's why it works. They've got to recognize it. K? Now, and that was where I found the big deal, and the the big thing is that warning box.
So if you're talking to people, if you're gonna go do this passport thing you've heard now here's also important. The warning box is in not only the DS11, it's in the DS82 too. So when you, renew it, you you've got the same deal. Why is that in there? You think they wouldn't wanna put it in there both times, would you? No. Do you know why they do it? Because it's the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time. They've got to put it in there. K? So that's what's going on with the passport application. It's quite an important document. Yes, ma'am. Or is this Mary with the problem?
[01:45:11] Unknown:
It's Gigi.
[01:45:13] Unknown:
It's Gigi. Well, you told us about yours. They seized yours.
[01:45:17] Unknown:
Yeah. They seized mine. So I'm wondering if I should still do the affidavit and,
[01:45:24] Unknown:
just to have it on record. They didn't revoke it. They just seized it. You you got a very complicated situation, Gigi. I'm sorry to say Yeah. What I know about it. And, but I you could apply again, but I I you need to go back and get this straightened out with these damn sheriffs who are screwing with you. That's the first thing you need to do Yeah. To unlock all of this other crap.
[01:45:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I'm in the process of doing right now. Well, alright. I want you to write me a letter. Hold on. I want you to write an email
[01:46:02] Unknown:
to Mark. Okay? Mhmm. Just to fill him in on the gap here. He may be able to help you, our paralegal guy. And his Okay. Email address is strawmanstrawmanStrawman.@mark,allcaps,.com. Atmarkallcaps@Mark,allcaps. Don't have to be in caps. Just mark, all caps, dot com. Okay? And just to say you're new Straw me. Roger, brief him on your situation, and then we can get him on here and hopefully discuss it. Mark, is that you? Roger, I have something for her too. Alright. Hold on. I thought I heard Mark. Who's the male voice? Alright.
So that's what I want you to do, Gigi. Just briefly tell him you got these problems and get that in his lap so he'll be somewhat aware of it.
[01:46:57] Unknown:
Maybe he can help you out. And that's [email protected]?
[01:47:01] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. [email protected].
[01:47:10] Unknown:
All caps dot com. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Now, Mirka, what Mirka, what what's your injection here? Well, it's not just for Gigi, but for every all new students. It's been very effective when we send our affidavit in quote, which is the affidavit with the cover letter to the secretary of state by itself before doing a passport. So they don't have any issues just in case there's something that they don't remember or Yep. You know, something in the background that they don't know about, that you can get your passport without any issues, unless you have a felony, of course. There's, I know that that came up just recently and that that needs to be cleared up before, you know, you try to do the passport because they might not give it to you.
[01:48:00] Unknown:
But see if you can file it that out. But you can file an affidavit at any time. They can't say no. So that's a condition precedent. So if they've got anything later down the line, you could say, well, hey. Those don't apply to me. They're out of the code of federal regulations. I'm already a national. I sent you the paperwork. Here's a copy of it and a copy of the return receipt showing it was signed for. So that's your you what your fallback position is. So you go ahead and do that, you know, this week weekend mail at Monday. But, you know, that's fine. Yeah. I already have. They they they they they held your passport.
Who's got it? The passport office or the damn sheriff's?
[01:48:41] Unknown:
The passport in DC. The the ones that I have to send it to, it says right here, it says the depart Department of State has denied your 01/16/2024 application for US passport pursuant to 22 CFR fifty one sixty b one and or fifty one sixty b nine, and has revoked US passport book, which was the book that I already had Okay. And US passport card number, both issued to you on 10/04/2022 along with any other valid US passport issued to you pursuant to 22 CFR 51.62.
[01:49:25] Unknown:
So they're not holding your passport. They rejected your application.
[01:49:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It says these regulations provide that the department may refuse to issue a passport and may revoke a passport when an applicant or barrier is the subject of a federal, state, or local warrant of arrest for a felony. There you go. So you gotta go back and clean that up with the sheriffs.
[01:49:47] Unknown:
You're gonna have to do that. Okay.
[01:49:50] Unknown:
K? It it wasn't with the sheriffs. It was with the court.
[01:49:54] Unknown:
What because they have the court on. Okay. Where wherever the problem is, you really need to find a way to go back and address that and see if you can get it straightened out. That's the log jam of all your problems right there. K? But she should put in her affidavit no matter what. Oh, yes. Send the affidavit in. That shouldn't stop you from doing that. But but get with Mark and see on the situation with the court situation if he's got any suggestions or may can help you out. Okay?
[01:50:22] Unknown:
Okay. I'll do that. And then I have one last question. So once I get that straightened out, send out the affidavit, when it comes to the passport and the passport card, is there a difference in the pay? Like, I know when you apply for a passport, like, 265
[01:50:42] Unknown:
Well, if you expedite
[01:50:43] Unknown:
it well, if you expedite it and do the whole nine yards, it's probably that much now. You don't are you doing any international traveling? You said you used to be a stewardess. Right?
[01:50:53] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:50:54] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. If you ever do that Yeah. I am gonna be doing some international traveling, like, towards the end end of the year. Okay. Well, then you need to get a book. You gotta have a book to get a visa stamp. But if you were just gonna stay in The US, you can do it on a $30 card. And many of our students just carry the card. That's the only thing they carry is ID.
[01:51:16] Unknown:
Okay. Roger. Alright. Yes. One more thing for her. She and as soon as her, affidavit hits the mail, she needs to send out her notices as soon as possible to all local Yeah. You're missing people like I went over earlier with, Austin.
[01:51:34] Unknown:
Your secretary of state, your whichever no. No. No. Your attorney general, which is that little Jew gal up there. Right? Little vegetarian. Yeah. I'm playing an asshole. Yeah. The her. And, and whoever your local people are. And, yeah, you might send that to, cc the court also. And cc the court. Okay. Well, you could. That's where the problem seems to lie.
[01:52:00] Unknown:
Yeah. It's with them, and they're out of business. They're just
[01:52:03] Unknown:
The court's out of business?
[01:52:05] Unknown:
I already yeah. I did a, I pulled up I did a what is it? They're doing business with the who is those people? I can't think right now. But it stated that they're out of business, and they're doing business as under someone under another business. That's a court? And so I was Michigan?
[01:52:29] Unknown:
They're not under the Michigan umbrella of courts and judicial stuff?
[01:52:34] Unknown:
No. And I called the main court in that county, and they said, oh, you have to go to that court. I called the court clerk to see if I can get a printout of, you know, all of the, transcripts. And they said, we wouldn't have them. You have to go back to that court. But when I pulled up the, that business site where they have to register their business, it stated that they're out of business, and they're operating under another Oh my god. Which is on a document.
[01:53:07] Unknown:
Gigi, is it totally confusing? Please write an email to Mark. Give him a little brief background. Tell him you're new to the program, and you wanna see if there's anything he might can do to help you out in this complex situation.
[01:53:23] Unknown:
Roger, I can help her I can help her with her notices that she'd like, to reach out to me on Telegram. Okay. Do you have Telegram on your cell phone? Today?
[01:53:32] Unknown:
Merca. Do you have Telegram? It's on Merca. Yeah. On your cell phone. Hi, Merca. Do You have tell Telegram on your cell phone? Do you have Telegram? I do. Alright. Well, national status freedom. Three words. Separated.
[01:53:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm in there. Okay. Yeah. I was just already in there. I joined it.
[01:53:52] Unknown:
Alright. Well, send a high send a report to you. I'm in there, Martha. Just say, there's a g t. Okay. Alright. You got that. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Now did you
[01:54:02] Unknown:
referring to Dun and Bradstreet's website where you went to and found out There it is. Yep. Dun and Bradstreet. There you go.
[01:54:10] Unknown:
Yep. I couldn't get the name out. Thank you so much. But that was there. That's where I I've never heard of a court going out of business. Anyway, write Mark an email if you would, and let's get it started that way. K? Because you're out of my out of my Valleywick right now. K? So, Okay. No problem. Alright, Gigi. And we'll talk to you again soon. I have a feeling a bunch of you are gonna be Thank you. And, Myrna, I'll reach out to you in the telegram. Okay. Great. Alright. Hey. We got a couple of minutes left, and then I've got an abbreviated weekend. So anybody else got any questions real quick? Roger Bruce. Yes. Alright. Hold on. Yes. I'll get to you a second. Bruce?
[01:54:52] Unknown:
Yes. They probably shut down that court because it was so corrupt.
[01:54:56] Unknown:
Okay. Next. Yes. About that. Who's the gas guy, please?
[01:55:01] Unknown:
This is Jeff from Pennsylvania.
[01:55:03] Unknown:
Hi, Jeff.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
Hi. Hey, Roger, everybody. This is my third time calling in. And last time I called in was, like, early mid July, and I was still waiting my, return of my passport, booking card. Yes, sir. And my birth certificate. Well, I finally got all three. They were separate mailings. Yes, sir. But I wanted to know if am I expecting to get a copy or a stamped copy of my affidavit of citizenship evidence back as proof Depends on if it
[01:55:30] Unknown:
it depends on if it was original. Evidently, they will return an original, but they keep a copy. You if you wanna make sure it's in there, you can do what's called a privacy act request. It's similar to a FOIA, except you're asking about your own personal information. Ask them, what, what, if there's any documents pertaining to citizenship evidence in my file, stuff like that. Very specific questions. And we've never had anybody that did that that that didn't come back that the stuff was in there. K? So if you're antsy about that, it they very I don't know if we've ever seen a specific example that they didn't do the right thing. Okay?
[01:56:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Because I've heard of people that like, I think it was about a week ago, I heard a guy that was talking about he got his birth certificate back, and it was in folded in a copy of his affidavit. And it was, like, entrauded. And I knew that was assurance. The reason I keep bringing this up is because I'm anxious to get my notices out, but I don't wanna proceed.
[01:56:32] Unknown:
Or you no. No. Don't you you that done you've already did you send a single copy to the naked affidavit to the secretary of state first?
[01:56:41] Unknown:
No. That went into
[01:56:43] Unknown:
with my out passport application with the policy. Here's where here's where that becomes important. Because if you've done that, they you're already a national. Okay? And all you're doing when you get the passport is just confirming that on the document they give you. So that's why for everybody listening, even though it seems, like a nuance, that's important. And they can't see enough copies of these things up there in DC to my thinking. And now you've cleared yourself from any other ambiguities that might come up if you had some baggage as a citizen of The United States. Now that's clear. So, Jeff, you, it sounds like to me you're alright. Okay?
What what do you want to do? Make sure your affidavit is in there?
[01:57:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I just, I just followed the instructions about, sending it with the app. I can always if you would advise sending another. I made five known copies that one day before I You you don't need to do that if you've got your passports
[01:57:50] Unknown:
back. If you're antsy that the affidavit's in there, do a privacy request. I think you'll find it's there. Otherwise, you're you're good to go.
[01:58:00] Unknown:
Does anybody have a phone number to check, with that that, privacy request?
[01:58:05] Unknown:
We go just because it's not a phone number. It's a go on the Internet and put in privacy requests. It's very simple to do. Okay. I'd go under Department of State and check that out? Well, yeah. And I said It would be that any any agency would be the same procedure. Brent, what do you got, buddy?
[01:58:23] Unknown:
He's all in. See over his affidavit. I sent mine back in in, '29 to not copy up the back. Big deal.
[01:58:36] Unknown:
Okay? I wouldn't worry about it, Jeff. But, yeah, if you Put your hair. About it, go do a privacy request, and they'll show you what's in your folder. K?
[01:58:45] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you very much. You're very welcome.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's it. I'll try to look Alright. Just hold on because the show's about to end. I'm gonna tell everybody hello bye bye, and we'll see you on Monday. Hopefully, John will be with us. Hope you got something out of today's show. Ciao. So let Paul dump us off here. And now Mirka's got something. Yes, Mirka.
[01:59:08] Unknown:
Roger, like you always say, me,
[01:59:12] Unknown:
if they've it helps them sleep better at night to send in their affidavit, you know, file it with the secretary of state directly with him. So Yeah. Whatever. I would do that. But, you know, I I started with this with just sending an affidavit in with a passport application. We had no idea about all these other processes and what could go wrong with certain people and things like that. They've just come up along the way. When one of them comes up, we try and incorporate it into the procedure. And from then forward, that aspect or whatever was wrong is taken care of. So that's how we've arrived at all these explanations I've given you today by trial and error.
Alright. It's always very effective to send the affidavit in first. So Yeah. Probably. Always recommend. Can't see too many of them. Apparently, I'd like to see 10,000,000 of them go across Rubio's desk in one one damn day. Yes. Yes, ma'am.
[02:00:05] Unknown:
Hey, Hey, Marka. This is Gigi. Can you, put the Telegram group in the chat again before we close?
[02:00:12] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll put it in right now. Thank you. Good enough.
[02:00:16] Unknown:
Now anybody else got anything for me today?
[02:00:20] Unknown:
One quick note. Yesterday, we were speaking about, a book entitled The 100 and the 100 Roles. Yeah. Took some doing, but I was able to secure a copy of it. It's in the books folder, in docs.exposethematrix.com.
[02:00:40] Unknown:
So Okay. Go to the all you're actually updating.
[02:00:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Thank you. There's two people publish here on that one.
[02:00:52] Unknown:
Sigh. Well, let me let me open it up and see. Downloads. Downloads. Downloads. Downloads. You see, downloads. The 100 and the 100 rolls. It is, 344 pages. It is a scan of an original and came from the Trent University Library.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
It's I I don't know if when you have a PDF like that, if there's a map in there, is that gonna be able to show you that? Because it folds out to about three times the size of the page. But it's it's only from what I read about it, Paul, it's only in the '63 edition. The original 1930 didn't have it in there, and then they're they're publishing a new one this year. And it appears like it's not gonna have it in there either. It says,
[02:02:13] Unknown:
that it is from the Burt Franklin Research and Source Works series number 19, and it includes, a number of illustrations and two maps.
[02:02:32] Unknown:
Cool.
[02:02:33] Unknown:
That means it's a 63. I wonder how that's gonna copy that full it's a fold out map. You know, it's in the very back of the book, and it what's really nice about that map is yeah. It it, it shows you who who had control over the land in, I think, December, December.
[02:02:55] Unknown:
That's all the people that had an estate in the land.
[02:02:59] Unknown:
Well, it's the ecclesiastical. It was king. It was peoples, broken down, I think, into those three. Well, the the twelves
[02:03:11] Unknown:
that year, the, the king owned all the land. He dispensed it out to his nobles. That's why they had an estate in the land. And for those of you who are new, estate, real estate, estate means less than true ownership. Because the king owned the land. He gave you an estate in it. Well, they show it as ecclesiastical as well. So the church owned the whole bunch of stuff. That means. I just know that's the principle it was all founded on.
[02:03:38] Unknown:
Remember when you get King Henry, the ace, he, he takes it all away from him.
[02:03:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it was his land.
[02:03:46] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:03:47] Unknown:
The, map is If you don't give the king a divorce, you you you lose your land.
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Or a or a or a male child.
[02:03:57] Unknown:
Okay. Hey, Roger. The map I had a question. Is there.
[02:04:01] Unknown:
The map is there. It's on page three thirty five, and it shows what lands were in the king's hands, in the hands of ecclesiastics, and in the hands of landlords.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Okay. You meant in the church? This church was still on land back then. K. Gotcha. Okay. You had a question, Samuel?
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Regarding Al Adask. Now he was an attorney from my understanding. Right? No. No. He was a roofer. Maybe I got the wrong Al at Aspen, and I knew quite a bit about him back then, but he did the anti shyster and Correct. The same way. Understanding he was also a Texas attorney. But Well, I think he might be wrong on that. Okay?
[02:04:46] Unknown:
So That might come after the divorce. I don't know because he got very I did I did shows with him divorce. I did shows with him for over a year, and he never mentioned that.
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So wherever you get that from is correct.
[02:04:59] Unknown:
He Al was a licensed attorney? No. You are correct. He was a roofer. I spent three days with him with James Schroeder and Ed Petroski in Tankers Bank. He was a roofer. He got caught in a fam he got caught in a family court deal. That's what launched him. He wasn't an attorney.
[02:05:18] Unknown:
Okay. Now the other question is, he so he and he published the anti shyster. Right? Correct. And didn't he write a paper that was called, as a re, a rebuttal to the IRS
[02:05:34] Unknown:
to call 66 questions? It's 66 questions. It wasn't a letter, I think. There's 66 questions. Well, it's on our website.
[02:05:43] Unknown:
Yeah. And I I copied that, Roger, and it's 27 pages long. And there's more like 330 questions.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
Okay. Well, all I knew is 66, so you're ahead of me. Yeah. I thought I might have been in the Modela machine or something because I always heard 66. That's what I remembered as well. That Well, that's what he told me on the air. I wrote him a letter with 66 questions. I never heard from him again.
[02:06:11] Unknown:
It's on the Yeah. The piece that Paul has on the site, I downloaded that and had it printed out. It's 27 pages, and it's I I did a quick count. I see about 230 yes or no questions in that. Alright.
[02:06:26] Unknown:
Anyway, that's what you wanna do. You wanna you flood them with questions that they can't answer or don't want to. And the reason for that is because your administrative file is a court of record. And should they ever try and prosecute you on anything, you can bring any of the stuff in that folder in, and it bypasses the rules of evidence. They can't keep it out if it's in that folder. One more question.
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Did he do a sixty minutes interview?
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Not to my knowledge.
[02:06:55] Unknown:
Phil Pyle. I wonder if I'm I'm I'm getting Yes.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Yes. You did. Yes. Oh, Al did?
[02:07:02] Unknown:
Oh, I Yes. Vaguely remember that. Some they short sheeted him, made him look like an idiot or something, didn't they? And we were all shocked. We couldn't do it. They ambushed him. Okay. Was that on sixty minutes? What is
[02:07:18] Unknown:
Well, what I found I haven't watched him yet, but there's three pieces regarding that. And in one of his his sixty minutes, it appears. In fact, he might have done two. Not sure yet. But Well, they If you use Yandex to do the search, Aladask sixty minutes,
[02:07:38] Unknown:
you'll come up with a number of hits. And I haven't had a chance to see those yet, but it was not a flattering interview or the conclusions. I'll just leave it at that. You can imagine. Yeah. They doubled down on the sovereign citizen thing, I think, after that. I guess. I don't remember. Bunch of lying bastards. They're scared to death of what we got. And I'll tell you one of the real important things Al did give to me on those shows, and that's this presumption of law thing. I didn't understand that, and it's the answer to all of it, really. Big part.
So yeah. Somebody If if you search Adask's
[02:08:12] Unknown:
law if you search Adask's law, it's not found. It was a treasure trove. He had years and years of oh, about every two to five days, he would post a very insightful article, either his own musings or, you know, observations about the news and political events, etcetera. And it's scrubbed. How does a guy go about finding
[02:08:36] Unknown:
that? Is there any way to do that through the Wayback Machine? I'm not that Why don't you use I tried Xandex. It might come up under Xandex. They may just have it blocked in the algorithm.
[02:08:46] Unknown:
Could be. Yeah. But, Al, you know, it was it was a spectacular resource. It was just article after article of relevant information
[02:08:58] Unknown:
made you think think I'm I'm sorry you've gotten so, you know, standoffish with me. I thought we had great shows and a great relationship, and we were going to as I said, the other day, July 31, we were supposed to launch a a a duo like like Paul and I here. And he backed out the last minute. I had everything set up already, so I just rolled on and said, well, I guess I'll do show solo. And here we are. I'm I'm trying to get would he be roughly, Roger? I don't know. Do you know how old he might be? Well, I'm sure he's around my age, around the late seventies. Somebody the other day said he's not in very good health, so I don't know about that. I'm sorry to hear that. Really, I like Al a lot.
[02:09:44] Unknown:
The searching I've been doing puts him if I got the right Al, I'd ask, puts him at around 79.
[02:09:49] Unknown:
I don't think he really meant spell it.
[02:09:52] Unknown:
A l a d a s k, Al Adask.
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A l a d a s k. Right.
[02:10:01] Unknown:
I'll do That's Did you ever meet her personally?
[02:10:04] Unknown:
No. I never did.
[02:10:07] Unknown:
Well, I spent three days working with Jane and Ed and Tanker and one other guy. Anyway, I would guess him to be five to ten years our senior.
[02:10:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's 79. Anyway, the what we got the other days, he's not doing real well, and I'm sorry to hear that. So just but Al added on for the for the audience who may not know about Al, he he he did a very significant thing back in the nineties called man and other animals. And I can tell you the whole story, you know, if you want, but that was his claim to fame and where he got a lot of his notoriety. Julie?
[02:10:54] Unknown:
Yep. I found something, when I googled him or not googled him. I used Yandex. It's privacy estimate and IRS anti Schyster. Critical
[02:11:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Is that is is that what you're looking for? Well, I don't know. That would be one of the articles out of this I was looking monthly magazine.
[02:11:14] Unknown:
I was looking for the website called adaskslaw, no space, just adaskslaw.
[02:11:22] Unknown:
Is that .com or .net? Or I honestly don't remember.
[02:11:26] Unknown:
It's been years since I've been to it because I haven't been able to find it.
[02:11:31] Unknown:
Okay. Let me see. May have just stopped paying the royalties on the website. I I don't know anything about it. Okay? But I know he's a good guy. Very likely. Yeah. The year and a half we did together, and I I thought he was a friend. I I still think I consider him a friend, but I wish him well. So there you go.
[02:11:49] Unknown:
The the, anti shyster took on another name too after about ten years. I forget the name of that. Yeah. K. I never According to the research I've done lately, you know, I knew a lot about him in the nineties, but I never had any of his real information and stuff. And that's why I wanted to Okay. Download the 66 questions. But then when I get to 66 questions, I got a question. It's 230.
[02:12:15] Unknown:
For the for the audience, I'm gonna give you the background on man and other animals because you most of you that are new, probably never heard this. Al was like I was in Atlanta. He had a high profile. They had a pretty large patriot group there. He was kind of the spokesman for it. He was running this anti shyster on the side because it was Dallas in a large group, same as our Atlanta group, which Brent was a member of, by the way, the guy that came on a minute ago. And, so, a lot of the traveling roadshows, Rommel School of Law, Rightway Law, all these guys, they come to our cities. And so he and I knew a bunch of people together because we'd cross paths with them through this situation.
And so, what happened with, with Al was that there was a company there in Texas that made some kind of real high quality colloidal silver. They're still in business, I think. I think I heard something about them recently. And so, they had the business in a trust, topical for us here. And so the feds had been coming at them, but they were using the state of Texas to go after them. And they were using the assistant attorney general of the state of Texas. Don't I don't remember his name. Don't even know if I ever knew it. Anyway, he had been handling personally the prosecution of the colloidal silver people in their trust.
At the last minute, they brought Al in as the trustee on the trust. So that automatically enjoined him in the case. And so Al went and read a bunch of the they had spent 500 $55,000,000 at this point going after them or some ridiculous amount of money. And, so Al went back and read all the original legislation, and he found in the original food and food and drug act, it says, there's a sentence in there that says man and other animals. And so he went to had his first meeting with the DA, the assistant attorney general of Texas, and, he presented this defense. And he says, I'm I'm not an animal. I'm made in god's image.
And they folded up their tents and dropped the case. After five years, $5,000,000 personally prosecuted by the assistant attorney general, and that one little phrase, I'm not an animal. I'm made in God's image. They've got no offense for that. That's an absolute affirmative defense, and they went away. And it was, of course, huge news all over the patriot community. Yes, Sam?
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Oh, I what I read, I wanna see if this is correct. He they they tried to fine him, the AG, $25,000 a day, and they put him in jail for up to a year.
[02:15:14] Unknown:
I don't know if they put him in jail. They might have threatened it. But regardless, I I I mean, I've heard him tell the story. I'm just relating basically what he said. So, yeah, the man and other animals defense still valid. Okay. Thanks to a roofer. Thanks to a roofer. So anybody got any questions? Hey, Samuel.
[02:15:36] Unknown:
Samuel. What I recall in hearing many of his times recounting the stories, I don't think there was any jail time in that whole thing with the colloidal silver. It was just threatened fines that he avoided by the defense that he put forward of man or other animals. I'm not an animal. I think what you may be conflating is he did spend time in the bokeefe over the family court problem, and that's what turned a roofer
[02:16:02] Unknown:
into a law dog A family. Because it pissed him off. I've often said they always make their own the their own worst enemies. Look at me.
[02:16:11] Unknown:
Well, what I read is that he was in
[02:16:13] Unknown:
maximum security. So that wouldn't be a law thing. I wouldn't think with a family court. I I never heard that. He never said anything about being in jail to me or on the shows.
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Okay.
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Alright. Alright. So anybody else got anything for Roger? Todd, I wanna welcome you and your bunch.
[02:16:31] Unknown:
And Will Thank you so much. You're a great, great man. I appreciate you so much. Oh, well,
[02:16:37] Unknown:
already. We'll be back Monday. Hopefully, John will get with us at Monday at some point. No, old friend. Been around since the early days of this program being on the air or the information being put out there. So, y'all have a great weekend. Hopefully, everybody will be do doing good. And, we'll be back with the no great, no nuclear bombs going off or any of that crap for the next seventy two hours, whatever it is. And, I'll see y'all on Monday then. Okay? My favorite direction. My my favorite two hours of the day. And I'm so glad, Todd, that we crossed paths with you and your bunch there. And what'd you say there's, like, 25 of your folks listening today?
[02:17:22] Unknown:
I think we're at about 30 right now all Wow. Talking on Discord. We're gonna do a live on Discord right after this. Okay.
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Well, you folks, welcome. If it's, if it's confusing to you, this is where you get your questions answered here. We're here six days a week, obviously, two hours. And, we love each and every one of you, and we don't want any of you with a question that doesn't go unanswered. Now, I can't promise we'll always be able to answer all of them, but we get most of them. So welcome. Be in beneath us, and, hopefully, we'll see a bunch of you again Monday. And if you're working, we'll see you maybe Saturday. And if you are working, you can always check the the recordings and the, the podcast. Day show's always posted.
Thanks to Paul.
[02:18:11] Unknown:
So, okay, guys. Anybody else got anything? Hey. Before you go, Roger Yes, sir, Bob? Before you go, Roger, not that you need to be involved in this, but just to put a point I don't know. Punctuation on it. Todd, you and your fellows, just remember this one thing. It's probably the nugget I've gotten out of this whole deal for the last ten years. There's only two forms of law. Two forms, man's law or God's law. Yep. And when you understand that, everything becomes simple. When you know the fundamentals
[02:18:43] Unknown:
Yep. It simplifies everything. When you can break it down, you lose sight of that. Or or situation. You're way ahead of the game. Okay? And this is what my my law teacher, John Benson, used to tell us constantly. The battle we fight today is the battle that's been fought from the beginning of time. Lex Rex versus the common law. Man's law, King's law versus God's law. That's the battle we're in right now. Same old shit. Different day. K?
[02:19:16] Unknown:
Very important. Can make look out to me? Pardon me? Can Mitch, reach out to me? This is Gigi. Is she still on? Marca. Marca.
[02:19:27] Unknown:
Marca, reach out. I'm sorry. Marca, reach out to Gigi. She's very, anal about this. I understand that. Not being Your stomach's growling. Okay. Yes. There's stuff. Okay. Somebody else. Yeah. I know. I understand. I've been in those situations. It'll all work out, but you gotta go back to wherever the root of the problem is in this court situation. Mark, hopefully Mark can help you. Hopefully Mark can help you. Okay? So, okay. Anyone else? Yes. Yes. Mar, Julie. Yes.
[02:19:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi, Roger. I'm gonna do the passport also, and it's the first time I'm doing it changing over to a national. Do I fill out the DS11 or the DS82?
[02:20:09] Unknown:
Well, yeah, that's a good question. Have you do you have a passport already?
[02:20:14] Unknown:
I do, but it's under United States citizen. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You just send,
[02:20:19] Unknown:
do the renewal. It's it's probably got some time left on it. Right?
[02:20:23] Unknown:
Till, like, August 15.
[02:20:25] Unknown:
Oh, not much time. Okay. Well, send it to them. If it's got usually, if it's still an open passport, they will. That's a very short time, just two weeks. Normally, they would send that back to you immediately in case you had travel plans. And, otherwise in that, you just send them that. You'll have to include that passport in there. I doubt if they punch it because if you're gonna do it immediately, it'll still be open. If it's expired, they triple punch it, you know, with one of those old three holes in it. Yep. And, otherwise than that, they'll send it back to you, and, you shouldn't have any problems.
[02:21:07] Unknown:
So I do so I do the d s 11 or the d s 82?
[02:21:11] Unknown:
Let's see. That's a very good question, isn't it? Because you are a new person. You're a new legal person that's submitted. But I'd say to use the d s 82 on the renewal. The warning box is in that too so you can submit the application in there too or the, affidavit. Okay. So you don't you don't nobody on you just call things so I have to do the d s 11 because something No. No. With lady No. We've never done it that way. I understand why you're asking and the principal that's involved. Yep. But you've already got a passport that will clear the way if there was any crap with doing a new one. That'll clear the way because it's already cleared the way on the passport you've got. All you're doing is telling me, switching my status here.
Yep.
[02:21:55] Unknown:
Perfect. And then I could just go to any, like, Staples store and just get a photo for a passport.
[02:22:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That or is it some post offices have them or if it's a renewal, you don't have to sign it in front of an administrating official. And you don't have to include your birth certificate. Okay? Okay. Alright. Go get them, girl. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Who else has got some something? Wow. Okay. Well, I think this is Mary Anne. Hello, Mary Anne. How are you?
[02:22:30] Unknown:
Did we speak yesterday? I'm good. I'm good. Our third No. We actually were emailing back and forth last Oh, I think two Saturdays ago. Your passport.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
Right. And the Buffalo Correct. Yes, ma'am.
[02:22:46] Unknown:
Correct. And I actually sent it with your help and Larry's help and Mark's help and Mirka's help. It was wonderful. First of all, I wanted to thank you for that. Yes, ma'am. And I did send the the letter to them, and I just got a response yesterday. Uh-huh. And
[02:23:05] Unknown:
I gotta tell you, I don't know if there's a mark on my back. I don't know. I have to understand what's going on. Well, if if you got a letter sent me. Well, if you got a letter back, you'll be the first one that didn't just get their documents back. So let's see what they got up their sleeve.
[02:23:20] Unknown:
Okay. They did send me back my passport book and my because I sent everything back to them along with the the affidavit, which I had originally sent to them. I did do a d s 11. And now they're sending this letter back, and they're telling me that Oh, oh, oh,
[02:23:39] Unknown:
you had a passport already, and you went and applied again with a d s 11, exactly what Julie was asking. Is that right? Correct. You didn't do a renewal form?
[02:23:52] Unknown:
I did not because I had done that previously, and they told me that I needed to do a new passport.
[02:23:58] Unknown:
Oh. To do the new They've never told
[02:24:00] Unknown:
new passport application.
[02:24:02] Unknown:
They've never told us to anybody that to my knowledge. Go ahead.
[02:24:06] Unknown:
Okay. Well, now they sent everything back to me, and they said that the original data printed in my passport is what I had provided previously. And now they're telling me to apply for a new passport.
[02:24:22] Unknown:
Did they keep your money? Did they keep your funds? Oh, yes. Cashed a check and everything. Yes. Mhmm. Well, I'd write them back and say, what what about this? You want me to apply again? You've already got my application fee. Correct? Because they didn't tell you you couldn't apply. They just kept your money. You gotta contact them and say, what about the fees you kept? K? That's the first thing I do.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
Okay. Okay.
[02:24:49] Unknown:
But they told you you could apply for a passport again.
[02:24:53] Unknown:
They told you you could apply for a passport again. Mary? They told you you could apply for a Yes. And I already did
[02:24:57] Unknown:
So, Mary, can I ask a question? You, applied initially. You had a passport that was not expired. You filled out the d eighty two renewal. Correct? And that was two years ago that I had done that? And they told you you had to come back and apply for a you said do a d s 11. See, that's what I heard, Roger, that if you're changing status, you gotta do a d s 11. That's never applied to anybody since we've been doing that. If that's,
[02:25:25] Unknown:
applicable now, it's brand new. Well, I think I have a mark on my back, Roger. Well, I you you may you may even because sometimes there's black sheep. Julie, I would everybody, I would contact them and say, I'm doing a status change on my upcoming application. I mean, they they've got to have you use the renewal form because that's where the warning box Mhmm.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
Excuse me.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger. Well, I am going to do it you know, I am I'm persevering. I am absolutely Yeah. Just going to stand my ground on it and go back again to them. And, also, should I actually put in the new letter, what is my next step for administrative appeal? Do you think that's smart to do that or don't do that yet? There there is no appeal unless they tell you they're gonna keep the funds.
[02:26:15] Unknown:
If they tell you they're gonna keep the funds,
[02:26:18] Unknown:
now you want a administrative appeal.
[02:26:21] Unknown:
Okay. Alright? Alright.
[02:26:24] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Because I did I did take a picture of my, application. So I am going to forward that along with everything else and just address their letter and just put it back in their court again. What I have ninety days.
[02:26:41] Unknown:
Funds. What about my funds that you have kept while you're telling me to go and apply again? Are you gonna keep those funds too?
[02:26:50] Unknown:
I you were breaking in and out, Roger. What was that again? About the funds that you have kept
[02:26:56] Unknown:
from the previous application? You're telling me to apply again. Am I gonna pay again and you deny me and keep those funds too?
[02:27:06] Unknown:
Okay. Got it? Put that in the letter?
[02:27:10] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Pin their ass to the wall on it. They got your money. That they're telling you that you're cleared. Well, if you got my money, why don't you issue me a passport on the funds you've already cashed? What are you asking me to apply again? 100%. Got it?
[02:27:26] Unknown:
Exactly.
[02:27:27] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:27:28] Unknown:
See what see how they respond. Yep. I'm definitely gonna do that. We've hardly ever Yeah. We're seeing a week what happens. Okay. We've hardly ever had problems with the passport,
[02:27:37] Unknown:
except for a few of these bluff letters. Who was saying Roger there a second ago mail?
[02:27:42] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. It's David with nationalstatus.com.
[02:27:46] Unknown:
Hey, Dave.
[02:27:47] Unknown:
Hey. Hey. I just wanna give a reminder
[02:27:51] Unknown:
to both quotes. Hold hold on a second. Thank you, Roger. Okay. You're welcome, Mary Anne. Go ahead, Dave.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanna give everyone a reminder about nationalstatus.com. It's, you know, it's very comprehensive, but it's designed for new folks. And it has training courses. It has step by step for passport notices, and the affidavit, of course. So, just wanna give that, as a resource to everybody. It's helpful to do it on your own time
[02:28:24] Unknown:
and to learn from the site as well. Okay. We've got a number of resources these people know. Thank you for reaching out, dude. Take they've taken their own time and effort and done these things. So there's the the Merc is there. Dave and Kaye is there. We got stuff on the website. The people have contributed that you could use to inform others, and there's a number of resources for you. Thank you. Everybody has done that. Yep. Okay. Again, if you would, for me, I don't ever ask y'all to do too much usually. If you would write an email to chasegeyser@infowars.
I'm gonna give you his email address again. And just you can either include a link to God's trunk card, which you can find over in the new student section. It's very easy to locate just a little bit down from the top. If you wanna put that in there, you can. I sent it to him earlier. The subject matter line was God's trump card with three stars on each side and very important, I m p t. So, anyway, if you wouldn't mind dropping Chase a letter to pay attention to Roger Sales' information, he's got all the answers you're looking for. Something to that effect, and we may just get our little butts on Infowars one of these days. We do that.
I would imagine these guys I don't know if it'll bring them kill them, but it'll damn sure bring them to their knees. I can promise you that.
[02:29:51] Unknown:
They can't do that. Roger, we got three stars. God Trump card and then I n p t for important. And and you could you didn't you were about to save a chase line again.
[02:30:01] Unknown:
Yeah. It was three stars, God's Trump card, three stars after that, and then I put very important after that in capital letters. That was in the subject line. But if you can just write Chase and just tell him you need to pay attention to this and please pass it to Harrison also. These are the two guys with real open minds. And Harrison, if you watch him often, he's very bright and he listens. When he's got people on there telling him stuff, he listens. He doesn't interrupt him like Alex does. And, so I think he's, he's very educated, good in history, and all that.
So just drop Chase, an email. It's brief, short, nudge him. Nudge, nudge, nudge. That's what we're trying to get to. Find out about I'll send an probably shoot a message out to Anne Vandersteel today and ask her about next week, the interviews that we potentially, David, she scheduled with you. Her and I didn't talk about that. See? So we've never firmed anything up. And, but I'll shoot her a little message, and, we'll see you guys on Monday. See how next week pans out. How about that? Does that sound good? Total silence.
That means Roger. Thank you very much, all the good folks. Please come back with your questions or if you just wanna join us on a regular basis if you can. Paul's got couple thousand seats there in the back for you. So tell all your friends. Roger.
[02:31:32] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:31:33] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:31:35] Unknown:
Did you give did you give Chase Geyser's email? I I missed it. Did you give it? I'll get no. I I didn't. I gave it earlier. I'll give it again. Thank you for reminding me and catching that. It's chase, c h a s e, at alex jones dot network. [email protected]. That'll get him.
[02:32:04] Unknown:
Excellent.
[02:32:05] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Alright. Well, thank you, Rodney. Alright. I'll see y'all on Monday. Have a great abbreviated weekend, and, stay safe. We'll see you soon and study. Remember, all you new folks, if you really wanna be free, your the the level and of your freedom is gonna be how well you know this information and can, a, defend your position when challenged if challenged, and, b, teach to other people. Those are two really important things. If you've guided yourself to that point, you're free. If you just wanna think this is a paperwork game and you don't have to do anything, you're wrong.
Although free is in the word freedom, it ain't free. You look at our forefathers. They lost everything they had. Okay? Learn the information. Here's the reason. When you file this paperwork, as some of you are probably gonna do, nothing changes. Your neighbors don't come up and congratulate you. The cop that pulls you over, oh, I heard you filed an affidavit. See you later, man. You're free to go. That ain't gonna happen more than likely. K? So the only way anything's gonna change, and that's what we're trying to do here is affect change. That's why it's free. The only way we're gonna affect change is if you be the change. And the only way you're gonna be the change is if you internalize the information.
That's it. Direct correlation. That's your charge that I charge you with is learn the information. And we get a strong group individuals that know this information. We're unstoppable, folks. We are unstoppable. Do you understand it?
[02:33:47] Unknown:
Roger, one last thing. It's Todd. Yes. Once I get 50 people free, provably free, I wanna do some celebration.
[02:33:55] Unknown:
Thank you. Man. Alright. Well, we hope, we hope to, help you, Todd. And, I wish I knew how many people had gone through this process. I have no idea. They come through here. They hang around. They learn it. They go off. We don't ever hear from them again. Well, that's good news because nothing's happening to them or we would hear from them. But I'd like for some of the old people to drop by every now and then. Let's say, hey, and let us know how they're doing. So, anyway, I'll see y'all on Monday. Have a wonderful day and a short weekend. Bye.
[02:34:28] Unknown:
Bye, Roger.
[02:34:30] Unknown:
Bye, Roger. Is David still here?
[02:34:35] Unknown:
Yep. I'm here.
[02:34:37] Unknown:
Hey, David. I'm on your website right now, and I'm trying to, I just typed in passport. I see, I did the search bar for passports. Do I need to do a DS11 or a DS82
[02:34:51] Unknown:
if you were me? Yeah. So the I would do the the DS. Well, it's gonna yours is gonna expire soon. Right?
[02:35:00] Unknown:
In two weeks.
[02:35:02] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I would say in two weeks. Are you gonna go take care of that right away prior to the two weeks, I would imagine?
[02:35:13] Unknown:
I was gonna go get a passport photo and just fill it out and then, federal express it or whatever on Monday.
[02:35:20] Unknown:
I think if it got in the door before the your expiration date, the d s eighty two would probably be the best. But if you go to in in the best way, I know searching is it has good searching the website, but if you go to Remedy and go to passport
[02:35:37] Unknown:
Okay. I did that's what I didn't do. I went to the learning center. I apologize. Okay. I'm there. I'm on Remedy.
[02:35:43] Unknown:
And then do it'll drop down. You'll see choices. You can pick passport.
[02:35:48] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on here. Let's see. I see land patent, abatement, internal revenue service, voter registration. I don't see passport on.
[02:36:03] Unknown:
So when you when you click on when you click on remedy, do you see choices
[02:36:10] Unknown:
there? I see the I just see, I see a political status. I'm happy being a fourteenth amendment citizen, or no. Oh, step three, passport. Do I click on that?
[02:36:23] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
It's not it's not going anywhere when I click on that flowchart.
[02:36:29] Unknown:
No. Not on the flowchart. Just scroll down.
[02:36:32] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:36:35] Unknown:
Oh, I have to
[02:36:39] Unknown:
Are you on a are you on your phone or are you on a regular computer?
[02:36:43] Unknown:
I'm on my phone. That's probably why. Oh, I I see the Remedy passport. I got it. I got it.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
And then when okay. You're in the right place, and there's some gray bars. And under each of those gray bars are drop downs, and they have a bunch of information there.
[02:37:00] Unknown:
Okay. Submitting your passport application, DS82 renewal.
[02:37:04] Unknown:
There you go. Alright.
[02:37:07] Unknown:
David.
[02:37:08] Unknown:
Thank you so much, David. My my flight is busy. I'm just on a I'm on a mobile chat. Joe late. No problem. Yeah. O h o h Joe late.
[02:37:17] Unknown:
Just through a Google search for passport grace period after explanation, the AI after expiration, the AI overview says, while there isn't a formal grace period for passport validity in the sense of being allowed to use it after the expiration date, the state department generally allows renewal by mail up to five years after the expiration date of a ten year passport. However, many countries require passports to be valid for at least six months beyond the intended stay, So it's best to renew well before the expiration date. There you go. There is a grace period. Use a DS82.
[02:37:57] Unknown:
God bless you. Thank you, Paul.
[02:38:00] Unknown:
David?
[02:38:01] Unknown:
Don't take me. Thank Google.
[02:38:04] Unknown:
Thank you, Google. Thank you, AI.
[02:38:09] Unknown:
Okay. I'm I'm done.
[02:38:11] Unknown:
David, are you there?
[02:38:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm here, and sorry for the sound here. I'm
[02:38:16] Unknown:
pumping gas. Go ahead. That's okay. That's this is Gigi off top of the passport. So I went through your site, and I've seen that you had a process for the, land patent. So I have the actual land patent for my my dad's property that was taken from me, last year. Would I be able to go through that process to try to get it back?
[02:38:44] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:38:46] Unknown:
I would almost suggest to Google, Ron Gibson's information. He has a book that now he just passed away, but his book is available. And I think we may have the book if you do the, I think we have his book on our site, but They call I would call that process specifically even though we have information process the best best you can.
[02:39:22] Unknown:
Okay. I have the book.
[02:39:25] Unknown:
What's the book called?
[02:39:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I have the book because I I got it about a year ago when I went and pulled the, the patent from the patent office. So I have three copies of the I have three partial paper of the, the, actual, land patent with the file number on it, and it's notarized.
[02:39:51] Unknown:
But but what I'm saying is there's a book that Ron Gibson created that has a process that he he developed.
[02:39:59] Unknown:
Right. It has a declaration where you put, you transfer over the information from off of the parking lot there, like, doing an assignment and stuff like that. I think
[02:40:12] Unknown:
Sorry.
[02:40:14] Unknown:
Yeah. So Yeah. I wanted to let them know that they were there
[02:40:19] Unknown:
with their kids where we took him and David and Adam. Oh. And and it's a great memory.
[02:40:27] Unknown:
Oh, nice. And I seeing David and asked him about Keith, and
[02:40:32] Unknown:
he said Dave.
[02:40:33] Unknown:
The other one. Dave.
[02:40:35] Unknown:
Check your mute. Open mic. Check your mute. Sorry.
[02:40:43] Unknown:
So so, Gigi, like I said, if if you get your hands on on Ron Gibson's book about land patents Okay. He he, he has a step by step, and it's not a quick process. You've gotta get your chain of title, which will take some work. Okay. But, yeah, that's that's the big deal because going back, sometimes, like, for us, we're here in Alabama. When we did try to find our chain of title, there were missing, titles because, during the a lot of times, there's been fires or floods and things like that where documents get destroyed, but you can you can do that.
[02:41:29] Unknown:
Would I get that from the officer's office? I'm sorry. Yep. Yes. Yes.
[02:41:33] Unknown:
And but, you can fill in there. There's a process to fill in those gaps.
[02:41:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I have them. I think I have those because, he give I think it's, like, three different pages where you do a declaration, and then he has the transfer of a quick deed on there. And then it has to go on the paper for a certain amount of time. And then, you have to do, I wanna say the Corniche. We're not using fiat. I wanna say 21 silver dollars.
[02:42:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm not super familiar. I know some of the, folks here on the call are familiar with that more so than me, but, we're we're still in the process, my wife and I, of, putting together a chain of title Okay. For our property. So, and she's really the one overseeing that. So and she's not available to answer your questions, but we're following Ron Gibson's process. So I would just suggest to just keep his back. Yep. Yep. For sure.
[02:42:45] Unknown:
Okay. Perfect. Thank you so much. Oh, you're welcome. Was Myrka still on the, call, or did she leave?
[02:42:55] Unknown:
Mirka left. Mirka left. I just wanted to re this is, Todd DWG on Earth. I just wanted to say one thing quick. Anybody in, it's in the chat that wants to join the Discord, we're gonna do a live. It's gonna be a step by step, very simple how to get free very quickly, but the steps to very importantly do it. Because if you make one wrong step, for example, sending your affidavit to, the secretary of state and not waiting as if it's a package for them to receive that, and then going ahead and sending your weaponization papers to all the other areas around you, that could be very bad for you. So we're gonna go through some steps to probably talk about, our dear friend, mister Hoyt, and, everybody's welcome. Thank you.
[02:43:44] Unknown:
Hey, Todd. This is David, with National Status. I join you, but I can't. I'm sorry. But feel free to use the, remedy section, you know, as a teaching tool if you want to walk people through because that's where we've defined those steps, affidavit, notices, passport. And just don't forget when you're doing going into those sections, you scroll down, there's gray drop down bars. That's where the majority of the information is under each of the sections, the affidavit notices
[02:44:16] Unknown:
and passport over. Thank you so much for reaching out to me, David. And that's guys, that's at nationalstatus.com or nationalstatus.info. And I believe David and Julie. Right? Do you guys both work on that?
[02:44:32] Unknown:
No. It's it's my wife and I, Kate. But Julie, yeah, she's, very participates great deal in Rogers' shows, so she's very knowledgeable as well. But, yeah. But on the site, just so folks know, when you get to nationalstats.com, at the top, there's navigation. The steps are under the Remedy section, and you just click on Remedy, and you'll see. But you really wanna understand the concepts before you really jump into all the the documentation. That's kinda Roger's definitely his suggestion and the way he teaches. Over.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Thank you so much. I'll bring that up. And, may I may I may I comment? Absolutely. Yep. Yeah. Hi. I just wanted to let you know that for me, at least during this process, my hardest, thing was the word resident because we're trained, through equivocation to think of that as a place or where you domicile or where you live or in a geographic sense. And in this case, resident refers to your political status. It's are you under the jurisdiction of the of Washington, DC? And then, also, we're tricked into thinking that United States is the 50 states, and it's not. It's the District of Columbia. It's that 10 square mile area. So that's the the other thing that tricked me. And they do that in the IRS as well, the code book in the IRS. I bought both of those books. It's like a thousand. No. It's like seven or 8,000 pages because there were two books. So they trick you with words and definitions all the time. If you look up what the definition of a trade or a business is, in the IRS definitions, it's somebody who performs the functions of a public office. It's not a plumber or electrician or, you know, what we would consider a trade or a business, whether you're, you know, a marketing expert or something like that. So that's what, Dave and Kaye's site really helps you master those words and and just repeating them over and over again and being on the show and hearing people talk about this over and over again.
You'll commit it to memory, by being on these shows if you can. I try to be on them every day. Even if I have to work, I try to multitask in the background because your subconscious will still pick up on the definitions and and the questions other people ask and the answers people give. So thank you.
[02:47:03] Unknown:
Hey, Julie, to your point and to the group, I just posted an article I wrote, and it's on the homepage of nationalstats.com at the bottom. It's called it's called equivocation of terms.
[02:47:15] Unknown:
Right. I saw
[02:47:16] Unknown:
that. In the article, I oh, okay. I I created a a chart that, has various, terms that are used, and it kind of breaks them down, but it, it definitely zeros in on national and American national. They are, statutory, and those are the ones we recommend to use, but it that article breaks it down best I could, and it's short article, short read. So for for anybody listening, feel free. It's at the bottom of the page, the homepage, you'll see articles, and you'll see that article over. Just click on it. Thanks. Yeah. And, Dave, I have a question for you while you're on here,
[02:47:59] Unknown:
or David. Sorry. With with the passport, I forgot. I remember in January, I think it was on the twenty fifth, if I my memory serves me correct. Roger went through that whole entire passport application for over two hours on the phone. Did he say that national is hidden behind, US citizen? Is that what he said it was hidden behind?
[02:48:21] Unknown:
Well, there's been there's been some discussion regarding US national and national, but he normally states that, our national is hidden behind noncitizen national, which is, you know, the Samoa. Samoan, which is, you know, eight USC one one zero one, lowercase eight, number 22 b, uppercase b, which is that's where that's where they hide, our national under that under that, but we're 20 number 21. The definition is number 21. And also to the group, if you're looking up the definition of national in US code, be cognizant that, the the law, Cornell Law online, when you go to that definition, it highlights the the lowercase state, the word, and you click on it, and it takes you to the wrong definition, it takes you to the upper case definition of state. So it I think it throws everybody because they they have that in there incorrectly.
Over.
[02:49:28] Unknown:
So, Dave David, you said eight u s c one ten wait. One one zero one, lower, parentheses a, 22, and then parenthesis, capital b? Capital b. Yes. As in boy. But after 11 o one, what did you say?
[02:49:45] Unknown:
Yeah. 11 o one lowercase a.
[02:49:49] Unknown:
Okay. Is that in parentheses?
[02:49:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, if when you go when you find it online, you'll see the lowercase a. Okay. And then under lowercase a, you'll see all kinds of definitions. You just scroll down to number twenty one and twenty two. But 22 is the one that is the, head fake that Roger always talks about. That's where peep and I've noticed that the AIs out there as well as Google, when you when you Google the term national, it takes you to that definition, and then it really throws off people because it's national of The United States, which is not us. We're just National.
[02:50:29] Unknown:
Right. So I on that one, handbook that Devin not that one handbook, on that two pager, at the bottom of of the matrixdocs.com, if you scroll all the way down to the bottom where that, where the that two pager is with all the cases on it to support, it has all the all of the cases that we've discussed before. I there's at the very top of that, I don't like that document because it says that US citizens, are property US national US nationals are not. I just don't like that word United States. I feel like a US national is the same thing as property. Am I right or wrong on that? Because that's confusing. So so the way I keep it straight in my head, Julie, is anything with US, United States connected to it when it comes to nationals, not Us. Yeah. And otherwise document yeah. I told I told Merca this a long time ago. I'm like, that document needs to be changed because even in his book, Sovereign to Surf, and it's a old book. It was written so long ago, they used the US National. And when I did my, thirty minute or hour consultation with Roger, he was contradicting on the, verbal consultation that I had with him, what was in his book, and what he was telling me regarding property. And I had gotten confused, and I was like, Roger, this is really confusing. I don't like that word US national. US national is the same as The US citizen because it's got United States before it. I said I'd rather use national by itself or state citizen by itself or a citizen of The United States Of America, those three terms to identify myself, because I don't know, US national could potentially get us in trouble if we ever had to go, I don't know, to court or something like that. It was what was what my thinking was. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, David.
[02:52:19] Unknown:
That's alright. That's cool. I, you know, I I contend that, you know, number 22, as I mentioned, is national of The United States, which is not us. I contend that US national is synonymous with with that term. And, of course, that's not us.
[02:52:37] Unknown:
So But David but David but David, they're using US National on the passport, in both DS11 and DS82, and that's not me. So that's why I was trying to figure out where are we hidden, what are we hidden behind? And you said it's a noncitizen national, which is an American Samoan. But I thought Roger said we're hidden behind US citizens. I I guess it doesn't matter.
[02:52:59] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I hear what you're saying. You know? And and if you look at it, if US National is is synonymous with National in The United States, then, yes, you know, we're hiding behind because part of that definition is the the Samoan. Right? But Right. When it comes to when it comes to the passport, your affidavit will supersede in my opinion, it supersedes what what you put on there, as to your status. It because it's it's deferring to
[02:53:28] Unknown:
the affidavit as to what your what your status is. So when it asks you to check one of those boxes, do you just leave it blank on there since you're no longer a US citizen anymore? So You
[02:53:40] Unknown:
Right. If I if I remember correctly, and I can double check, I think what I did was I selected noncitizen national, but then, because there was no alternative. Right? And so I think at the time, that was the my best choice, you might say, and I knew that I would, I would be attaching my affidavit to that, which says I'm a national as in the number 21 definition. And, I had already previously sent my affidavit to the US secretary of state previous to the passport application as we're, you know, as the process indicates we should so.
[02:54:21] Unknown:
Right. So I sent my affidavits a long time ago. So they're already there. I already have the certified return receipt back and the cover letters and the, and I have still have I did a bunch of original, affidavits of citizenship evidence, so I have those in my file folders. So I'll just fill out the d s 82, and I can go to Walgreens or CVS, and they do passport photos there for pretty cheap, and then just fill it out, put my affidavit, and stick it in the mail, certified mail return receipt, and it should get there next week before expiration. And, hopefully, I don't have an issue like Mary had where they send it back in the mail to keep my money my money order and tell me I have to do a DS 11.
[02:55:03] Unknown:
I hear you. You know, Julie, a while back, you mentioned you were you were going, head first after that Sysdig SysdigiQ fund? I can't remember. I can't never say it right. But,
[02:55:17] Unknown:
That's the KB.
[02:55:19] Unknown:
Yeah. How's that going? I'm just curious.
[02:55:22] Unknown:
You know, I'm working. I wish I were retired like some people on here. I really do because I would be able to do this full force. I think I have it figured out, meaning, you've got to go to they have now my understanding now, David, is that they have now they've really hidden this. They have, taken all of our Social Security numbers and all of our, CUSIP numbers and they've merged them together like they do mortgage backed securities when they are selling collateralized bond or obligations to investors. And there's and this is being done at the second Treasury, which is down in Puerto Rico.
Can you hear me or am I too loud? Yes. I can hear you. I can hear you. Yes. Okay. So, my understanding is that you've got to go after, these ten ninety nine a's. And you can't go in you can't really take this truth into any courtroom because, they're hiding this. And so the path, to the fraud and the identity theft is through, an IRS ten ninety nine a, which acquires your birth certificate, which means your property, and that is for their bid performance and payment bond, which they are selling. So,
[02:56:55] Unknown:
the problem is May I interrupt? Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, thank you so much, Todd. Listen. I just wanted to throw something in here real quick on that. That's one thing I've been no. Luckily, there's I mean, there's new people in here, but luckily for all you veterans, a lot of these people are really have been studying and researching words and stuff and things of that nature. So now we're setting ourselves free, but then round two is gonna be just fun as heck. I just wanted to let you know that Cescat's trust well, first and foremost, you guys know our birth certificate, our Social Security card, even giving you money is illegal. It's not even ours. So that we gotta in the in the long run, we gotta fourteenth we gotta collapse the fourteenth amendment constructive. Ends Legis.
Well, straw man. Trust that your county set up for you when you were born, that is and then we're gonna basically terminate all, intermediate fiduciaries that are handling all our of our certificates and noncertificates, but they're not ours yet. That's why people go to jail when they go to try to get money on a TD or they find out where their money is in the Federal Reserve Bank because of the letter on the back of their social. The problem is, guys, it's not ours.
[02:58:13] Unknown:
Okay? Yes. Yes. It is ours.
[02:58:15] Unknown:
It is ours. It is ours. It's not ours now. You have to take you have to take executive office of it. You have to take control of it right now. We are. We are. No. I know. No. No. I'm not saying you're not. I'm I'm telling just the people that okay. Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. What we are, we, they have, we are the
[02:58:35] Unknown:
we're the granters and we're the beneficiaries of that sophisticated trust. And, you know, when you go to court and you've got the bar attorneys, well, actually, the Attorney General of The United States is the trustee over all of these. And, so basically, when you what the IRS does when you file your taxes, they file a ten ninety nine a. They create create this, and they fraudulently sign your name to it, which is identity theft. So you can get a ten ninety nine, a copy c and file that with your taxes to cancel and just charge the liability, or you can file a ten ninety nine, b and get a check back by revoking and revesting the truck.
So the problem that where people are going to jail sorry about that. The problem where people are going to jail, my understanding, is when you file a different form with the IRS, which is something like an o I or something like that, It's different from the, what you file as a national, if you're gonna file tax returns, but it's a different thing you file. If you get that back and you put that check into your account, that's when people are going to jail. But my understanding is that you gotta cancel. You've got to you're the granter, you're the bailer, and you're the beneficiary, and you have to revoke and revest that trust.
And the way you jail, which is great. Yeah. And the way you do that is you gotta file your IRS documents, properly. And so what he does what what I have learned is that, yes, it it's great, that we're national if that's what you wanna do. But it's basically I if you file my understanding is you file an affidavit of identity theft with the with the IRS, and that's something like form 14 O39.
[03:00:28] Unknown:
Did I I just one one more I believe I have to leave because I have a still starting. I just wanted to tell everybody, look up UCC8Dash112LittleD. And,
[03:00:41] Unknown:
that's that again? UCC8Dash112LowercaseD,
[03:00:52] Unknown:
and that's your path to freedom. But I gotta go, and I love you guys so much. Thank you so much for everything.
[03:00:57] Unknown:
Thank you. God bless. Yeah. So, what was I gonna tell you, David? I'm I'm gonna see if I can, because I am new to this too, and I'm trying to learn all this stuff too. Let me see here.
[03:01:14] Unknown:
Okay. So Julie, I gotta I gotta I gotta jump, Julie.
[03:01:19] Unknown:
Oh, you gotta go too? Okay. I I do.
[03:01:22] Unknown:
Okay. We'll talk later.
[03:01:23] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:01:24] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks, Julie. Bye. Thank you for your help. Oh, you're welcome, Anyhud. Bye bye.
[03:01:30] Unknown:
So anybody else who's interested on here with this or no? Wanna move on to something else? Or is everybody gone? It's Saturday afternoon.
[03:01:38] Unknown:
Morning. I'm listening.
[03:01:40] Unknown:
Okay. So basically basically, you guys, we have a leg legacy account. And if you look up title 31, code of federal regulations three sixty three, and there are many cases that support proof that this account exists. And your birth certificate emanates out of the Maternity Act of 1920, and there are many cases where the maternity act generated your birth certificate, which is now known as a banknote. So there's a bunch of, who issued these banknotes? Pacific Banknote? Bank banknote company, American Banknote company, Midwest Banknote company.
But this generated your birth certificate trust, which is also known as your legacy account, which is also known as your estate, your legacy estate, and they, again, are using equivocation, for this. And what they've done now, because people started to figure out about these, is your birth certificate trust or your AKA legacy account is actually managed by the United States Treasury. And now they've opened up two, treasuries. They've got a second one down in Puerto Rico. And what we're after is Trust number sixty two in Puerto Rico, which is under Title 31, U. S. Code thirteen twenty one, Section 62, which is Trust sixty two for the Internal Revenue Service. And so why are why is it down in Puerto Rico? We all know Puerto Rico is not a state, it's a territory, and they have a completely different jurisdiction judicial system down there. So we can't directly attack that through any US courts.
They've hidden it down there to make it very hard for us to get directly into that account, and what we wanna do is collapse, revoke, and reverse that account in order to access our security that they created. So, we actually have a trustee over this account, and it is United States attorney general, which is title 50, United States code forty three twelve, and that is called the Alien Property Custodian Common Law Trustee. Again, they just keep on adding words on and making this even more and more confusing. But the way this is true is Congress would not write codes of federal regulations if this were not true. They don't lie like that. They lie in many other ways, but they don't lie in that manner. So the account is through the Bureau of Fiscal Services, which is inside the Treasury Department, and the IRS is your accountant.
How lovely. And, you know, you can, reference this book, which I love, and Samuel and I have talked about a long a lot of times on the after shows called The Fruit from the Poisonous Tree, by Melvin Stamper. It was revealed in this book in a big way in 02/2008. And I recommend you can get it for free. If you go to the Yandex browser, I think it's on internet.archive, and you can just type in fruit from the poisonous tree in the search thing, and you can get a PDF copy of it and print it out, double sided. It's very thick. It's huge. But if you prefer a bound book, then you it's still available, I believe, on Amazon, but that's for people who wanna don't wanna pay for it. But so, what was I gonna say?
So the government owes us what is called a set off. They owe us a debt on the public side because we're the creditor. So they have to pay our liabilities on the public side. So if you owe the government money, they're supposed to pay your liabilities, and they're supposed to do a set off, and they don't want us to know this. So this is all about a book entry system. There's no money. If everybody wants to understand what to do for your remedy, what was I going to tell you? The easiest way to do your remedy is you have to use the IRS because the courts, the banks, and the government agencies do not want to accept any time any type of negotiable instrument from you even though that is commercial fraud. And that's why I I was telling I was telling, who I know I'm having a sobrain fart today.
My friend from Idaho. Can somebody please help me out here? He's always on the after show. George. George from Idaho. Thank you. I was telling him, he's trying to do these, you know, acceptance for values. He's trying to turn his, his bills and his payment coupons into, bills of exchange, it's not gonna work because they are obligated to take it, but it's but they're not doing it. They've written policies so strongly against our ability to do this. It's not worth the time to do it, and, it's not worth your effort to try to do any commercial law with them because you're gonna end up litigating in court, and it's just easier and faster to go to the IRS. And the courts are all corrupt with judges anyway that aren't listening to us. They don't want us to know this. So it's better to go through the IRS and handle it through the ledger.
And so this involves the ten ninety nine a, c, and b's. And where people are getting in trouble with what Todd was talking about is if you file an OID. The OID has been turned off. If you do that, my understanding is that's how you end up in jail. So what our remedy is is through the birth certificates. And, what what what's really irritating for me is that you had those. You had, you know, Elon Musk. Everybody knows he's corrupt, and he's just took taken all of our data from all of these agencies and uploaded it into his Starlink and his AI programs and stuff. But when he was originally auditing all of these places, the number one place he should have been auditing, he should have been down in Puerto Rico auditing all the fake $10.99 a's, which basically acquired our property, and he should have been auditing auditing the identity theft for those bid performance and payment bonds that all these agencies are writing behind our name, making us the principal and the assurity. That's identity theft. We we never authorized them to do this. They never disclosed it to us. He should go and audit all those fraudulent securities and revoke and reverse them and give us our money back.
So I'm trying to figure this out right now. I haven't done this yet because I need to go to the IRS and get the ten ninety nine a, b, and c's and read them. But what the IRS commits, fraud by not giving you your ten ninety nine a copy that they create and file with your taxes. Because if they gave it to you, you would take your ten ninety nine a and file it with your taxes, and that would cancel and discharge any liability. And but you can also, use a ten ninety nine b, my understanding is, and get a check back by revoking and the trust. I don't know how to do that yet, and I'm working on it, but I have limited time because I'm still working.
So basically, the United States Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission and the IRS are engaged in willful fraud and concealment of our accounting and securities. If they don't, they're in violation of the Securities and Exchange Rule 10 b five, where you have standing to sue them both civilly and criminally because they're not giving us our ten ninety nine a copy c to file their taxes. So I'm new to this, and I'm trying to learn this and I have not printed out all of these cases that I know about that I wanna read. All I know is that we are the grantor or the bailer and we are the beneficiary and we have the right to revoke and revest that trust at any time, but we have to file the IRS documents properly.
And that's what I'm working on right now that David was asking me about. They don't wanna bring oh, the other thing is you don't really wanna bring this into the public realm. That's where people are disappearing. So you just wanna do the accounting, which is ledger, and you just wanna do the ten ninety nine a or the b or the c if you wanna just you wanna do the c if you wanna discharge it. And then if you really you could do a ten ninety nine b because they did embezzle from you and take your money back. But if you do the ten ninety nine b, you gotta be careful because you have to have a CUSIP, and you have to do it to the penny.
So you have to ask IRS to respond back to you with proper accounting. You do not wanna cheat the Treasury Department because that's how you end up in jail. We only you only want the money back that has been taken from us because that's what your equity is, and you have to act like the creditor. You gotta do the accounting with the IRS. Hit the ledger, and there's nothing the agency can do. It sits on their transcript, and they have to cancel and discharge the accounting on their side. And this was set up by the banking system in the beginning. It it actually was designed originally to be real simple, but they and they also have not been paying the taxes that they owe on our securities, and that would be the IRS. They owe taxes on the securities.
So, anyway, that's all I really have for right now. It's very confusing, and it's confusing on purpose, so that we can't figure this out. And again, what they've done with the Q SIP is they've now merged them all together, and that's basically lawlessness. It's unlawful for them to have done that, and they've done it because there are people out there understanding is there are people out there that are doing this and using this system, but you cannot if you promote it, there's people that are disappearing. I mean, it's kind of like Kevin Hoyt right now with his publicly, identifying these people in New Hampshire who who did child sex trafficking. I watched his whole entire presentation in front of these people, And he he had connected all of their EIN numbers together, and he had all their websites. And one of these guys' websites had the FBI logo for child trafficking on it. He goes, what are you doing with this business? That's a child sex trafficking symbol all over your website. That's on the FBI's website, and this guy's face just went red.
[03:13:20] Unknown:
So Is this is this Judy? Julie.
[03:13:23] Unknown:
Hi. Hi, Joan.
[03:13:25] Unknown:
Hi. Did Kevin ever tell you why his daughter got kidnapped and how she he got her back?
[03:13:35] Unknown:
I no. I did not go into that with him, but I do know that when he did his interview, he and Paul and Roger discussed this. And had he been a national at the time and had he, probably even made her a national, but even if he didn't have her as a national at the time, had he been a national at the time, he could have prevented this because Paul, gave a a case to Kevin, that he had, that that was on, I guess, Roger's show before I joined it. So, CPS is just going after everybody here these days. I'm sure they went after her because of, what he exposed in front of everybody publicly that, all the websites and the money laundering and all of the child sex trafficking websites they had each individually set up that they were getting money for kickbacks.
[03:14:26] Unknown:
Julie? Do you did you see where the where the Fed, governor resigned?
[03:14:35] Unknown:
I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. This is Joe? Is this Joe? This is Jerry. Jerry. Oh, hi, Jerry. Jerry. I didn't see that yet. I've I've I've been told he was gonna resign, but I haven't seen it.
[03:14:46] Unknown:
Yeah. He resigned. Yeah.
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Did you get my messages? I'm sorry. I did. Yes, Jerry. Thank you. And I've been working, and I have to work all weekend long. And I, so I thank you very much. I'm it's gonna take me a few days to get all that stuff put together and put and pasted into a a Word document and then convert it into a PDF file for everybody. So everybody who wanted me to send them this, I have your emails, but just please be patient with me on the land patent stuff.
[03:15:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Were you able to get it to that gentleman in Michigan?
[03:15:18] Unknown:
No. I have to no. I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to copy paste, copy paste, copy paste, copy paste, and then, put it all together and then email it out to everybody. That's what everybody wanted. Oh, okay. Alright. Well, thank you. But thank no. Thank you. Thank you. In fact, I tried to call you, Jerry, but I your phone went straight to voice mail, so I didn't leave a message. Birthday party. But anyway Oh, you had a birthday party? My son-in-law. Yeah. Is it your birthday?
[03:15:48] Unknown:
No. My son in law's.
[03:15:50] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, tell him I said happy birthday. Belated birthday. Yeah. Julie. Thank you, Jerry. Birthday. But anyway, thank you. Thank you, Jerry. Julie. Yes. Hi, Karen.
[03:16:03] Unknown:
Hi. Earlier today, Todd mentioned something about Kevin Hoyt missing and his daughter. Do you know anything about that or any further information?
[03:16:13] Unknown:
Well, he's been on the road. Or he's been on the run with her previously. So, I don't have any more information except for, you know, they were coming after she and he, and that's why the original, podcast was delayed between Roger and, Roger and he. Well, actually, Roger missed the first one because he didn't see the email with the link. So, when we were setting up the second one, it was delayed because, he was delayed because, he was on the run. And I did text him, but I haven't heard back from him. But I know that, Kevin, is very resourceful and he's able to live in the wilderness.
He that's why why he has that show title on Rumble. He can survive out in, the wilderness for days and weeks and months if he has to. So, I would imagine he's someplace where he they can't find him, where he doesn't have a cell phone that he doesn't have. Maybe he has a burner phone. I'm not sure. Thank you for the update. Appreciate it. Yeah. If I have him, I'll let you guys know, but nothing back from him right now.
[03:17:36] Unknown:
Julie, can you hear me? Yep. Hi. My name is Ali. I'm part of Todd's group. Oh, hi, Ali. And Hi. Okay. So, a lot of what you're talking about is where my research has been with Brandon Jo Williams with regards to using the IRS to go ahead and have them set off or, you know,
[03:17:59] Unknown:
set off, like, all of your credit cards background. Hold on, Abi. There's a really a lot of background. Who who can somebody, mute? I hear a lot of kids. Everybody mute who's not talking, please? Okay. That's much better. Thank you. Go ahead, Aliyah. Now I can hear you.
[03:18:18] Unknown:
Okay. So where you are with regards to speaking about how going by way of the IRS in order to set off or or to have the IRS they settle all of our accounts, basically, and they will do it on a monthly basis or depending on how it is you present it to them. That's how they, you know, like, that's how we're supposed to live. That's how we're supposed to have infinite money. Basically, if there's anything with if there's anything with your Social Security number associated with it, then you can send it to them to set off. But for all the little everyday expenses, you use a credit card, which the credit card is what you have your Social Security number attached to, and you send them your credit card bill on a monthly basis.
And then they pay that off, and you go back to a zero balance. And that's how you're supposed to spend money on a monthly basis. And it's supposed to be very simple, and I've been learning this through Brandon Joe Williams. So,
[03:19:19] Unknown:
I'm right there. The Do you have a website?
[03:19:22] Unknown:
Brandon Joe Williams has a website called first of all, you can look him up under Brandon Joe Williams, but his website and the way most people know him as one stupid fuck dot com.
[03:19:36] Unknown:
Oh, I know him. I have that I have that, I have that website. I did not know that hit that was him.
[03:19:43] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That yeah. That's him. And it's all there. And I'm right there. And and my question, and it seems like it never really gets answered, so I kinda stopped asking, is on one hand, we're changing our statuses. And on the other hand, if you use the IRS correctly as as I just described, like, if you went ahead and submitted all of your expenses I mean, we're talking about setting off your your mortgage, setting off anything that you owe for your car, setting off all of your credit cards. If you use the IRS just the way you described, just the way Brandon teaches, then you have infinite money. And changing your status does things for you, like, prevents you from being, you know, subject to statutes and and laws and what have you. I mean, it pulls us out like we need to be pulled out, but I don't know if I wanna be pulled out so much that I can't use the IRS. Or can we continue to use the IRS to set off our expenses while we're changing our status? And I think I've already answered my question. I think the answer is yes. But that is key.
[03:20:49] Unknown:
I I think we can. I mean, that, my understanding is that legacy estate or that legacy trust belongs to us. And, they are, again, you know, using our labor, to back the fiat currency. And, I but I just haven't figured out how to fill out those forms, and I don't wanna be one of those people that get gets arrested and get put into jail because I didn't have the exact numbers of, the exact, numbers behind my CUSIP. It has to be to the penny. And, and so, you know, for lack of a better word, I'm a little bit I mean, I have faith over fear, but I'm a little bit fearful of doing anything like this until I actually pull down those forms.
I have not been on Brandon Jo Williams site to figure out, but I do have a lot of friends who've tried to, pay their mortgage and their car and their credit cards, but I don't think they were using the IRS. Or maybe they were using the IRS through the Treasury, and they were sending it to the wrong place. And my understanding is that's why they set up a separate Treasury down in Puerto Rico now because they're out of The US jurisdiction down there, and they have totally different court system down there. And then now to make matters worse, they've taken our CUSIP numbers when they were individualized, and they've merged them all into one CUSIP number, where all of our individual ones fall underneath that one. It's a master CUSIP number, and nobody knows what that master CUSIP number is. So I I if you know how to do this or you wanna work on this with me, I'd love to work on it with you and figure this out so we can share it with everybody else because what they're doing is just so evil.
[03:22:34] Unknown:
I know how to get the master QSIP number. Okay. Okay? I know who has direct access to those master QSIP numbers and knows exactly how to do it. And he's one of the individuals that wrote that first redemption manual.
[03:22:47] Unknown:
So what's Okay. So I can copy them that
[03:22:52] Unknown:
Brandon I believe Brandon has all of them. But, anyways, let me, give me some contact information so that I could reach out to you. Yep.
[03:22:59] Unknown:
You know? And then we can we can solidify this. Yep. I'll give you my, I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you my, alternative Gmail, email since we're on we're we're being recorded here, and then you can I'll switch you over to my main email. But email me at, [email protected]. So that is begrate,fasinFrank,ul,four,for,life,life,andandsmile,fmile,@gmail.com. I'm sorry. I don't know how I came up with that long email address.
[03:23:45] Unknown:
Okay. You you you lost me at four because I spelled it one way,
[03:23:49] Unknown:
and then you said another grateful. Yeah. All spelled out. Every word spelled out. Be grateful for life and spot smile.
[03:24:00] Unknown:
Okay. Be grateful for life, a n d?
[03:24:04] Unknown:
Yep. And smile. Yep. [email protected]. And it's grateful spelled g r a t e f u l. Got it. Hey, Julie. Thank you so well. Oh, no. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Alright. I'll be in touch. Yep. We can figure this out together. It's just so confusing. And, I'm gonna tell her most of the lines on. Hey, Julie. Yeah. Hi. To be honest with you, I think pieces. I think we have the pieces. It's not gonna be confusing. Oh, you know what? If we got the pieces, let's go then. I mean, I'm willing to take a chance here.
[03:24:43] Unknown:
Okay, guys. Take care. I gotta go. Thank you, Ali.
[03:24:47] Unknown:
Hey, Julie.
[03:24:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi.
[03:24:49] Unknown:
Hey. It's David again. Sorry. I had to jump off, but I'm back on. But, hey, listen. If you if you figure this out, if you figure out the process and you validate it, I'd love to have another section if you're open on the remedy, page, for this.
[03:25:08] Unknown:
Absolutely. Website.
[03:25:10] Unknown:
And, you know, I know I know, you know, it's an effort of, you know, we my wife and I don't monetize anything, so we do it to get the word out about this stuff. So, I mean, it's up to you. David David, I'm I'm not looking to monetize anything. We are all being so evilly thief from and murdered and,
[03:25:31] Unknown:
poisoned that I'm not charging for anything. I'm giving everything out for free because I feel like this is the community we're in. We are all brothers and sisters, and we're here to help each other. That's what life is about. So you you can have everything of mine. I already told everybody, if I figure this out, you can all have it for free, and I will I will make videos. I have Camtasia, software on my computer. I will make videos showing every single person step by step on how to do this, and I'll I'll put it in a drop box for you. And you can you and, your wife your beautiful wife can edit it and put it post it all over your remedy.
[03:26:06] Unknown:
That'd be cool. That'd be really cool. I appreciate I'll stay in touch. Okay?
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Thank
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you, David. Okay. Thanks, David. Bye bye.
[03:26:14] Unknown:
Bye bye. Have a great day.
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Purchase. I'm not struck of mine.
[03:26:24] Unknown:
I think somebody's mic is open. Oh, yeah.
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The construction room.
[03:26:29] Unknown:
Whose mic is open?
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Hey, Willie.
[03:26:45] Unknown:
You heard that you're talking to, did spin the mic off.
[03:26:58] Unknown:
Yes. So check if you're there.
[03:27:04] Unknown:
I think that's from Carol.
[03:27:06] Unknown:
Is that the only one that's o open right now, Joan? Because I'm not on the FCC app right right now. I'm just on a landline.
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I think so.
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I'll check
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again. I shut them all off.
[03:27:25] Unknown:
Is this Andy? No. I turned them all off. Thank you, Andy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're the best.
[03:27:36] Unknown:
Is Jerry Garcia on here to talk about the land patent again?
[03:27:46] Unknown:
Hey, Jerry Garcia. Jerry Garcia. Gary. Gary. Gary.
[03:27:57] Unknown:
He must be at a Grateful Dead concert.
[03:28:00] Unknown:
I'm going to Stanford. Hey, Dave.
[03:28:04] Unknown:
Which Dave? In the sum. Oh, that's not me.
[03:28:11] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:28:12] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel. Do you know where do you know where Highway 40 comes in in at the Upper Peninsula? Oh, I don't know. I know where Highway 2 is. Highway 41 is my brother just told me. He was just up there in the Upper Peninsula. He says it's the longest highway in this country, which I find hard to believe seeing it's going north to south, but he said, it goes from the Upper Peninsula all the way to, the end of Florida.
[03:28:38] Unknown:
Highway 40? That's I 75. Highway 41. I'm pretty sure that's I 75. Okay. I 75 goes from Florida all the way to the UP, north and south.
[03:28:56] Unknown:
He said it was 41. I'm familiar with 41, though. I'm sure he said 41. I would've known the difference between 70 Something. Yeah. I'm gonna check it out. I thought you might know, but I just have more time.
[03:29:09] Unknown:
I'm not familiar with Highway 41. No. And on your last map out of Yupur though, I don't I've only been up in the UP a couple of times, but I know I 75, I've traveled that, you know, many, many times and that I've driven it from, you know, Detroit to Florida several times, and I've been up to the UP on it. So, you know, that yeah. I 75 goes right to the Mackinac Bridge.
[03:29:37] Unknown:
Yeah. He says that, up there, he that they get, like, 15 feet of snow in the winter.
[03:29:43] Unknown:
They do. Your brother is is that your brother in Wisconsin?
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Yeah.
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41 goes to 41 goes through Wisconsin.
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Yeah. That goes the other way. But it does that go Andy, does that go all the way from UP down to Florida?
[03:30:04] Unknown:
Goes from UP to Milwaukee for sure. I don't know how far south it goes.
[03:30:09] Unknown:
I I think I've been on 41 in the South somewhere, but I you know, it's been a long time.
[03:30:17] Unknown:
We have relatives down in Florida, and I know he's made that trip several times too with his camper and his truck. He gets seven miles to the gallon. He's got his toy holder with him though too, and that has his, gull wing in it and you know? Oh, yeah.
[03:30:37] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah.
[03:30:40] Unknown:
Hey. Did did does BLM do business in in the state of Michigan?
[03:30:45] Unknown:
Not to my knowledge. Okay. Oh, you mean Black Lives Matter? They're they're all around they're all over Michigan.
[03:30:52] Unknown:
Oh, the Bureau of Land Management because that that's the value that's how you go for your land patent.
[03:30:57] Unknown:
I think it's the Bureau of Black Land lies, matter. Yeah. Matter.
[03:31:05] Unknown:
In California, I know for sure that's where you go when you're trying to do your land tax. Okay. That's where you start. Michigan's,
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department is DNR, Department of Natural Resources, or darn near red.
[03:31:20] Unknown:
Yep. That's them.
[03:31:23] Unknown:
So this way that that Jerry's doing it, I mean, he's in a isn't he in a Western state too? Isn't he, like, in, New Mexico?
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New Mexico. That's all bad. I would assume that's BLM.
[03:31:36] Unknown:
He's in New Mexico.
[03:31:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I would I would think that's BLM as well. So what he's talking about, that website what was the name of that website he was on the other day?
[03:31:46] Unknown:
He was I never did get that.
[03:31:48] Unknown:
I have it somewhere. I wrote it down. See if I can find it. I think I have it.
[03:31:59] Unknown:
And then pulled up the meets and bounds for that for was that Mary?
[03:32:03] Unknown:
Yep. He did somebody's address, and he found out what the balance was. And he doesn't pay property taxes anymore.
[03:32:11] Unknown:
Well, he doesn't pay them, but they may not have taken them off the tax rolls. Here in California, you've got five years to pay up before it goes to auction. So I take a little bit with that grain of salt what he's exactly saying there. I'm not sure exactly what he's saying. But if you're just making the assumption that you're not gonna pay them, like here, we got a five, a five year wait before, they send the sheriff.
[03:32:43] Unknown:
Now now What I recall
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him saying was that he attached himself as an assignee or an assign to that land patent that that Joshua Culpepper or whatever that name was that the road East sits on who has the original land patent from, 1842, I think he said.
[03:33:07] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's all part of, sort of what Gibson's saying in his thing as well. I don't you know, I mean, I introduced everybody to Ron on this group, but I have some caveats with what he was doing mostly because he was not until the very end was he aware of the citizenship difference, and slaves just can't own property. That's why I started to do my process all over again. Right. I think I think that's the hinge Okay. Are you there?
[03:33:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. So, I believe he says you go to the US Department of Interior. That makes sense. And then you go to the Bureau of Land Management. That makes sense. And then you click on services.
[03:33:54] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I think that's probably correct. Yeah. You click on land records, general,
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and GLO. And on the top left, you click land patent. And then you put under city, state, and name, you're just putting Illinois, and you put in the third box, you put the township and the range and the section, and then you hit search patent.
[03:34:24] Unknown:
And where are you getting your township and range section from?
[03:34:28] Unknown:
Yeah. That's where I wanted to know where where did he find all that information.
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I think he went maybe to randy majors dot org.
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Here in California, they're on the deed.
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They if it's an unincorporated
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area, they give you a in leaps and bounds.
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Like, California I'm sorry. I'm I just caught the end of this, but it's yeah. Put California section range township maps, and it'll come up randymajors.org.
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Yeah. Randymajors.org is what he said. That's what I wrote down.
[03:35:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't catch I didn't understand why Randy Majors would have anything to do with the BLM or apartment of interior. Is he a You have to take that. You gotta take that information
[03:35:14] Unknown:
from when you put that in, and you have to use that when you go to the US Department of Interior is my understanding. Am I correct there?
[03:35:21] Unknown:
Well, here's how it works in California. If you're in an unincorporated area, your title has meets and bounds on it. You take the meets and bounds and you tell the b m dot or the Bureau of Land Management what land patent is that in. And you ask them for three certified copies and a certified plot map. And you get that back,
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and it's the beginning of your process. How do you tell if you're in how do you tell if you're incorporated or unincorporated? How do you tell that?
[03:35:53] Unknown:
Well, if you're within a city limit, you're probably incorporated incorporated. They still may have them in in in you know, they still might you made some bombs. You might have to do a little more digging.
[03:36:06] Unknown:
In the Randy Majors, when you type in your address up there in the left hand corner under that little blue balloon, it'll tell you your your Jerry, who's Randy Majors? MAPS. Sections, township MAPS.
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Yeah. Who is randymajors?dotorg.
[03:36:24] Unknown:
It's it's just a map, geographical map.
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Okay.
[03:36:30] Unknown:
Well, you can find your land patent. You don't have to go to the building because they'll do a bunch You could get a certified copy from them. That's important along with a certified plot map. You gotta get three certified copies from your state's county, recorder. Mine is in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
[03:36:52] Unknown:
Well, yeah, that when I did my chain of title, that certified, statement from the Bureau of Land Management in my state matches the original document, the first one that you pull, which is the land patent. There's a correlation there in in California.
[03:37:14] Unknown:
And so it is in every state?
[03:37:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I would think so.
[03:37:19] Unknown:
It yeah. It is. Did you guys The Randy Majors the randymajors.org, you can type in your address, and it'll bring up your land Okay. Okay. Yeah. That little balloon, and then you can get your your Alright. Southwest Quarter or the Northwest Quarter of Section 20 Of Township 22 South Of Section 1.
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That's And
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what what I would take that over to the Department of Interior under GLO Land Records, land patents, and put your state at the very top. And in the third box down where it says township range and section, you put top put all that stuff in, and it'll bring all these, land patent owners that are land patent holders. And then you look for your Southwest quarter, Southeast quarter, or Southwest quarter, or Northwest quarter, whatever over there in the county that you're in, and it'll even show you the county you're in. Yeah. Because,
[03:38:19] Unknown:
Jerry did this on, for Mary. Mary was in Mendota, Illinois, and he did this whole thing for her this past week. Yeah. I was listening to part of that. I just wasn't catching all of it at the time. So so you go to raterandymajors.com. They have so many map tools there. You guys have no clue. It's so amazing. They have all these customized map tools. But you go to landymajors.org and you can just put your address in like Joe was saying. And then once you get that information, once you get the township, the range, and the section, you go to the United States Department of Interior, and then you click on Bureau of Land Management, and then you click on Services, and then you click on Land Records, and then you click on General, and then you click on GLO, like Joe just said. And then the very top left, you wanna click, land patent, and then, a page will come up at the top.
And, you it has state, county, and name. You just wanna only put Illinois. That's what what he did for her because she's in the state of Illinois. And then in the third box down, you enter your township, your range, and your section, and you hit search patent.
[03:39:42] Unknown:
Does that make sense? The other day, I was in Social Security, and they wanted a, I gave them my mailing address. And, she said, is that your physical address? And I said, well, it's a physical address, but it's not my domain. She she said, well, I need a physical address. So I gave her my meets and bounds, and she said, I don't know what to do with that. And I said, well, just make a copy of it.
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She did. That was it.
[03:40:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Joe was telling me, and I didn't quite understand this because I am challenged when it comes to history. But Joe is telling me on that phone call that we were on that, my situation is weird because I'm in Virginia, and I'm one of the original 13 colonies. So I don't know, Joe, if you're still on or you're listening to me. You were saying something about Virginia, and you were saying that this maybe would not work for me, or maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.
[03:40:43] Unknown:
It's different there. There's a lot of different private. A lot of that land was owned by people
[03:40:50] Unknown:
even before the constitution was signed. Well, yeah. That's I think that's what he was saying. My my situation is Julie. There.
[03:40:58] Unknown:
Yeah. That was Rick. It was Rick telling you that. Oh, was it Rick? Okay. Yes.
[03:41:04] Unknown:
I don't think he's on. Is he is that is it from Rick from Alabama?
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Georgia.
[03:41:10] Unknown:
Oh, from Georgia. Okay. Yeah. I didn't I I mean, I was writing down so fast, and I was writing down all of the stuff that Jerry was saying so quickly. And then when he was in, educating me on my situation here, which and he was talking about the Northwest ordinance and all that stuff. I have the books on that stuff. I just haven't had a chance to read them. So many lies that we relied on. I've just I've been focusing on this QSIP. That's the Katy Trust account, birth certificate account, because I'm like, I think that would solve a lot of people's problems if we could get access to that and start using it.
[03:41:43] Unknown:
I told you to let Rick talk the other day, and you didn't. He's a surveyor. He knows what he's talking about.
[03:41:49] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:41:50] Unknown:
Yeah. The other thing that I just wanted to mention is, I I see a distinct difference between an elodium and a land patent. Two different animals. I wouldn't roll the words together. I would separate them.
[03:42:04] Unknown:
I would agree, Samuel. And who invented the patents?
[03:42:08] Unknown:
Man, the elodium is really really goes back in history to the kings, and the kings get their power from the bible and you know?
[03:42:17] Unknown:
Right. The sovereign.
[03:42:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I yield.
[03:42:22] Unknown:
And domain is the only word they haven't put under resident. You're you could be almost anything. You could be a a a any kind of serf you wanna be, and you come under resident. Domain is the only one that's absolute. It's almost just like saying Elodial because it is the Elodial claim, the domain.
[03:42:48] Unknown:
Isn't that funny that the Internet has domains? I yield.
[03:42:53] Unknown:
Yeah. But if you type in the wrong if you type in the wrong address or you don't use everything properly, you ain't gonna get there, are you? It's absolutely one way or the other. By the way, that Aladask piece that's 27 pages long with 230 questions, the first thing he attacks is the upper case name.
[03:43:16] Unknown:
Where where do you get that, Samuel?
[03:43:19] Unknown:
It Paul's got it on the matrix stocks. Okay. And then where do I go? Scroll down just a little ways. It it may not I I I've scrolled past it a whole bunch of times before I saw it. So
[03:43:32] Unknown:
Are that the 200 questions that he asks to the IRS or something like that?
[03:43:37] Unknown:
Well, it's 66 from what I remember, and I don't know if it's listed that way there. That was my question today. I've I've always thought that it was 66 questions, but, you know and I figured that'd be a couple pages long, you know, short and sweet. And it's 27 pages, and it's, like, 200 to 30 questions.
[03:43:58] Unknown:
But who are those questions to?
[03:44:01] Unknown:
IRS.
[03:44:02] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:44:03] Unknown:
And supposedly, he never heard back from them. Because how are they gonna answer any of it? Especially when you see the questions he's asking about their Dun and Bradstreet number and how are they a constitutional organization, and why are they using this new name, this AKA? He goes on and on.
[03:44:27] Unknown:
66 questions response to the IRS. I see it.
[03:44:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know why it's there's so many more of them in there. But, anyway, I thought that was interesting. I I thought it was a Mandela effect or something.
[03:44:41] Unknown:
Well, the first question is really funny because it's Rico.
[03:44:48] Unknown:
Actually, the first question is on the name. He talks about Rico in the introduction, but the first yes or no question, I think, has to do with the AKA.
[03:44:58] Unknown:
Yep. He's got his name in lowercase, and then he's got the upper case, Alfred Adask. And he says the use a term used by the IRS sender whose intended meaning is unknown to me as the date of drafting this letter of inquiry, but might signify an estate account security or legal fiction other than a living man whose proper name is Alfred Adask. It's the lowercase.
[03:45:20] Unknown:
That's exactly what they say in the book of the hundreds. Randy Lee said, you know, I don't know what that is. It's not my name. Yeah. He says he's gonna he says that until,
[03:45:32] Unknown:
until I am corrected by the IRS sender, I will it's fine. My all caps name to be a mere alias for my true and proper name, and many others is, you know, capital first and capital last and then the lowercase.
[03:45:45] Unknown:
I do believe that all the land in this country is allodial. That's that's a claim that Broost also makes. But to roll it together with land patent, I think, is improper usage of it. And I think they they purposely would like you to do that,
[03:46:05] Unknown:
and I don't think we should. At least that's my opinion on it. And then he has notice c c 59. I got one of those, the collection of notices and envelope dated 04/20/2009 that were sent by the IRS vendor too, and are actually insufficient for me to form a response without further inquiry. See copy attached.
[03:46:27] Unknown:
Well, I'm at home sleepover, so I'm gonna go in there and see how long I have to stay on a Saturday. I never do a Saturday trip, but worked out that way this week. So I'll see you all later.
[03:46:39] Unknown:
Okay. Have fun. Does anybody know if Rick is on the, FCC or on this call this afternoon?
[03:46:51] Unknown:
He's still on here, but I don't know if he's in the room.
[03:46:55] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[03:46:56] Unknown:
He's the last name on the oh, well, you can't see the
[03:47:01] Unknown:
the FCC.
[03:47:02] Unknown:
The name of the yeah. Cannot see the list of names, but
[03:47:08] Unknown:
Thank you, Joan.
[03:47:15] Unknown:
I have a question for you guys.
[03:47:17] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:47:20] Unknown:
This is Victor in Washington state. I'm working on my notices right now, and I've been on Dave's nationalstatus.info website. I did my affidavit from his website, and now I'm on the notices. And, I guess the question is when you're sending all these notices to all these different agencies, Number one, has any of you have any of you use the, what's that form, the, for the post office? The firm book. Has anybody used the firm book? If you have, like, over 20 different notices
[03:47:59] Unknown:
Yeah. And I can, I can answer that? I know lady Linda Louise used the firm book, and I was gonna use it. But when I went to my post office and and asked them for a firm book, none of them knew what the firm book was. They were just absolutely clueless, and I was at the main sorting facility for this entire area where I live. So I didn't use it, but lady Linda Louise did. She said that it was very helpful for her.
[03:48:25] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[03:48:26] Unknown:
I went into the Federal Way post office, and they gave me the entire book, the big old thick book with over a 100 pages of firm book pages.
[03:48:39] Unknown:
I I've used the firm book. I haven't used it in years, but I when I got into this about five years ago, I got a firm book and I used it. I've got I probably sent out a 100 different things with the firm book, so I have, I don't know, 20 pages filled out or something. But I I haven't used it since. And to me, it's it's value it's only value is if you're in court and needing to prove that you know, proof the service. So without a yield.
[03:49:11] Unknown:
So the Yeah. The re book is, it's PS form three eight seven seven. I've used it. I would say for your main notice with the attorney or the the SOS. I would choose a registered mail on that notice, but everything else, I would probably use the firm book because it saves you so much money.
[03:49:39] Unknown:
Yeah. So you said SOS
[03:49:42] Unknown:
and Secretary of state.
[03:49:44] Unknown:
Of The United States Of America. Correct? United States. Yes. Yeah. I did my affidavit, and I did certified mail return receipt. I never got my green card back, but I got the proof on the post office's website. And that's when I found out that they don't actually Yeah. They don't actually
[03:50:04] Unknown:
I did the same thing you did. I did the certified mail return receipt. And then for the green cards that I didn't get back, I just went on to the USPS office, and I typed in the number, and I printed out that it was received by them.
[03:50:19] Unknown:
Yeah. And what I received was response back with an image of a signature. But after tracking it down, I found out that that signature, the image on the website isn't on the green card. It's on a different form that they use, which I found interesting.
[03:50:39] Unknown:
I think the next one that I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do the registered mail, not the certified because that one, they will get you your card back. That one has a, almost almost a a whole paper trail of who touched that letter the whole time that it's been been sent.
[03:51:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I heard it might have been you talking before about using registered mail instead of certified mail.
[03:51:10] Unknown:
Is this is this Carl? Is this Carl Dimuto? Over here. Carl, this is Jerry. How you doing?
[03:51:16] Unknown:
Thank you. Good, bud. You must you must be golfing too much because you're never around when I call.
[03:51:23] Unknown:
So I'm on the golf course right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm planning on doing
[03:51:29] Unknown:
at least three counties in Washington state. So that's all of the police chiefs, sheriffs, district attorneys, on and on. It's gonna be a lot of mailings to do, which is fine. I don't I'm not worried about the money. I was just wondering. So if you do use a firm book, is it gonna be the same thing as you're not gonna do get are you gonna be able to do return receipt, you know, the green card back?
[03:51:59] Unknown:
You don't need return receipt. The only one you really wanna return receipt is the secretary of state of The United States because they have the obligation to let everybody else know, that you are off limits essentially. Other than that, it's just a I and instead of the book, I just print off the the sheets, the p s, thirty eight seventy seven, print those off, and just write on those that save those with the document that you send so that you can prove who's in it. Because you're getting a stamp on from the post office stamps, and then they have to sign in a post office saying they checked the addresses with what you have written down on that document.
And so it's essentially just just an affidavit. That kinda makes sense. That's all it is. But it won't come into play unless you go to court. That's the only time that really matters. And for the Yeah. The cost savings, I mean, you start sending mailings to to 20 different agencies, and that cost starts racking up when you're talking certified mailer, greener seed, where the firm book is only, you know, $2 a letter at the most, stuff like that. It's pretty pretty affordable.
[03:53:14] Unknown:
So when you're using the firm book, are you doing any are you are you doing registered mail or certified mail at all? Or No. You don't you don't need to. You can do just standard mail.
[03:53:24] Unknown:
Okay. Because once you put it in the post office, it is considered receipt, and they they've stamped to say they've received it, which if they've received it, they're going to mail it. Otherwise, that would be federal offense.
[03:53:38] Unknown:
I understand.
[03:53:43] Unknown:
So, yeah, I've got a lot of lot of papers to write for all these different agents all over the state. And the firm book that she gave me, like I said, it's over a 100 pages, and every single page has multiple lines of mailings. And you said that you just said something about you use a different form to have evidence?
[03:54:09] Unknown:
Yeah. So the the the the book is full of forms. It's the exact same form as the p s thirty eight seventy seven. It's the same form that's inside the books.
[03:54:24] Unknown:
P s thirty eight seventy seven? So that's a set of form that you could just do an individual mailing at a time with?
[03:54:31] Unknown:
Well, you put you put if you're gonna do five different people, you put the you have the option to put a tracking number on it. You have you have to put the address, and then that's all you put. When you go to the go to the post office, they stamp they stamp that they've received it. They sign off on saying they they received letters sent out to 47 different, individuals or agencies. And then they're supposed to look through each letter to make sure it matches up with what's written on your form. Know whether they do or no, that's their their issue, not my issue. But, yeah, it's it's the same as a certified receipt in the extent that it is documented that you sent it. And it's used by lawyers.
Lawyers use it. Insurance companies use it. You know, and you think you're just getting a regular piece of mail, but they've they've certified. They've sent it to you. That's why in court, when they say we've we've tried to get a hold of this person, they can prove it because they have this form or the book, and you're stuck going, I didn't receive it. Well, it was mailed to you. You know? So they're getting away with that because that form. And then like I said, I would as you're just an FYI, as you're doing this, changing your your your nationality, I would think about, writing a letter to the different agencies, also letting them know that you are declining or resending all your all your contracts you have with them.
And because you're trying to take yourself out of their system, now it's gonna backfire you with the driver's license because they're the one that's gonna get mad at you. And but by doing that, you're gonna be driving with a a passport anyways unless you're a truck driver. And at that point, I would I would let them know that you rescind your contract that you do not know about, and you want your your thirteenth amendment rights back, you want your you want your fourth amendment rights received back in full, you know, I I would put that in there because when you get pulled over, they like to search and seizure your vehicles, which violates your what is the Fourth Amendment?
And you want that Fourth Amendment,
[03:57:00] Unknown:
right back
[03:57:02] Unknown:
because you don't wanna give it up like you're giving it up normally.
[03:57:07] Unknown:
I understand.
[03:57:08] Unknown:
And resend resend is the word that everyone recognizes. So you gotta make sure you use the resend word.
[03:57:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm planning on after all of these notices are sent, including one to the Washington debate, highway patrol. I'm planning on going the route of the three USB OT stickers and just using the pass court card and buying my own insurance policy.
[03:57:38] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of them teach a lot of them teach the the USDOT. I have a I have a a issue with that to an extent that you're once again giving a government official an authority over you. And I don't know if that's right or wrong. I've heard I've heard left and right. Right? You're two different ways to do it. And I I honestly think the more you stand upon your God given rights and your God given authority and present it that way versus codes and regulations, that's where it's at. That's that's your strong play. But it's you gotta know it's all about knowing the information, which Yeah. I'm I'm at a disadvantage. I don't know the information quite as well. I'm working on it, but until you listen to it 57 times
[03:58:28] Unknown:
I know.
[03:58:30] Unknown:
You're you're just you're getting little fiblets at it.
[03:58:34] Unknown:
May I ask who I'm talking to, please?
[03:58:36] Unknown:
This is Carl in Utah.
[03:58:38] Unknown:
Hey, Carl. I listen to,
[03:58:42] Unknown:
Brandon Joe Williams. I listen to his stuff. I listen to, a good one for traveling is, Cameron Wilson. His his group is insane. Like, they they focus on the traveling aspect and having God given him rights to travel.
[03:59:03] Unknown:
And Is he on Rumble? Or
[03:59:06] Unknown:
I see him on I see him on YouTube, but he's got a group. It's called Wisedome, w I s e d o m e. And it's kind of a pay to play. You gotta pay for a lot of the information because it's just a it's a, you know, it's a forum, and he doesn't let everybody into the forum unless you're gonna put your course a couple bucks. But I listen to him. I haven't paid for that information. But sometimes it's nice to get information, you know, and you have a few bucks to spend. Maybe that's what you wanna spend it on versus going out to dinner for the night. I don't know. It's my thoughts.
[03:59:46] Unknown:
Okay. One final thing is I really liked David and Kaye's website. My one one question I've had in my mind the entire time I've been listening to Roger for three years now is he has his his way of doing it is you do the passport first, then you do the notices. Dave and Kaye do the notices first, then the passport. I'm just wondering your thoughts on this.
[04:00:14] Unknown:
This is David with National Studs. No. We do the we do the affidavit first. Right. Right. Right. And and that's what I meant. First that's Yeah. Yeah. We yeah. We and I think the difference I think the difference sorry. I just I'll interject here, but I think the difference is we recommend waiting a a bit of time after sending your initial, affidavit before you start your notices. But, you know, soon as you mail it, it's in there. It essentially is in effect. So you you could potentially start doing your notices right away. But we like for it to, we like for it to, get in their system, give it some time. I think we say twenty one days, but that's just that's just what we do over.
[04:01:00] Unknown:
Mine's been with the secretary of state since last July last year. The other thing is when you're going about doing your first letter to the attorney general and you have to list all of these cc'd agencies, obviously, there's not enough room on one page to list all those counties and officials. So I think I was on Merkel's Telegram group, asked the question, is it okay to just have another one page for one town, one page for another county as an attachment? You know what I'm saying? You understand?
[04:01:39] Unknown:
I know. The, so I I know myself, I just did a list at the, end of the statement that I was sending them. I just listed them all. It took, like, four pages, And that's all I did. And I I gave each one of them that list. And so they all got on the same list, and then they cut them on top, just saying who all got the letter. So just make it simple. You gotta remember, it's not, you're just stating a claim of of yourselves. It doesn't matter if it's in hand, like, in your personal handwriting or printed on a computer. I mean, it's just you you writing it up with your own 10 man hands is more valuable than a computer.
You know, it just it's your claim. That's all it is. It doesn't matter what you do. I would keep everything short and simple. If I just do it over again, which I I will do it again here coming up. I'm gonna do very quick and simple statements so that they can't it's less for them to rebut, but it's me stating that my claim up to who I really am.
[04:02:46] Unknown:
Well, I think you answered my question by saying that you sent four pages, and that's where I'm getting it is I'm using your your sample notice letter from your website. So there's gonna be, like, at least three pages of all the officials, all the different counties that I'm gonna be sending I'm going to be sending a copy of that affidavit
[04:03:07] Unknown:
to. Yep. Yep. It could it could be. And also, you know, our document builder and the notices, it's one of the gray bars, It actually formats and allows you to add as many agencies to CC as you, as you would like. And I don't know if you've been able to play around with it. It's pretty cool because it again, you can do as many times as you want. It sends the completed document to your email, and then there's a link to a site. I think it's called the I Love PDF or something where you can edit it if you want. So initially, when we built the doc, when we put together the document builder functionality, folks were worried that they were giving putting in personal information in there, but none of it is required. It's It's optional.
So you can create your document, have it emailed to you, and then and then tweak it on your own, edit it on your own. But, anyway, I just wanna mention that that that functionality is available, and it will create the document for you, and it allows you to add as many agencies. And to your point, it could be multi page it could end up being multi pages over.
[04:04:22] Unknown:
I was just on that website this morning, and I actually went to the document builder, and they actually went to the iLO PDF. And when I went to the iLO PDF, I'm assuming that you have to pay for something to use those tools.
[04:04:36] Unknown:
No. No. It's it's free. And, on that on that, I have a PDF. I think it takes you right to the page that allows you to convert it into something you can, into a format that you can edit. But that website has a ton of functionality for various form or, types of forms, formats to to be able to edit. But I think the link we have there in the email that you get with your attached document send you right to where it you can edit a PDF. It it, allows you to convert it into an editable document. But, anyway, it's a little bit of, we try to make it as easy as possible, and create the form for you.
So, yeah, if you wanna, let us know what you think. Just make a comment on the page, and, we definitely watch those and listen to those. So thank you.
[04:05:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That was my final question is once I'm finished, if I use the document builder or if I do it on my own, if I wanted to get it to you to see for you to take a look at it before I send it, how would I do that if possible?
[04:05:48] Unknown:
I'll send you an email.
[04:05:50] Unknown:
You can you can just email us.
[04:05:52] Unknown:
And we can look it up by your by your email address.
[04:05:56] Unknown:
Yeah. We can look it up. We'll know we'll have your email address, But Send us a note when you're done. Yeah. And that's Kate talking here. She, said just send us a note, and we'll we'll take a look at it. And, you know, ultimately, it's gonna be, you know, up to you. We we try and format it correctly but, yeah, it's it's kinda cool because you can keep adding agencies as many as you want, and you can you can do it as many times as you want as well. There's nothing limits. It's all it's all free.
[04:06:33] Unknown:
And that your email address is on the website? Or
[04:06:36] Unknown:
Just admin. Yep. It's it's [email protected]. Admin Okay. @nationalstatus.info.equipment
[04:06:44] Unknown:
right there. It's been sitting there 20
[04:06:48] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. So Yeah. Appreciate that. We can do to help for sure.
[04:06:54] Unknown:
And I also asked a question on your chatbot this morning about those cards that you could print off.
[04:07:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I emailed you back. And I answered you too. I didn't know David answered you. Yeah. I think we both did. This call will be Yep. I down
[04:07:08] Unknown:
I downloaded it. Oh, good. I'm all good. I'm gonna I'm gonna pin it out on some business cards. I have a question. Longer being recorded.
[04:07:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think I think that, I can't remember. Kate, did you put an Avery?
[04:07:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There's an Avery label number in there. Which one it'll it should line right up with it. I think it's 5371.
[04:07:30] Unknown:
I can't remember. And, you know, if we're talking about you can go to the store and get the Avery, templated, paper.
[04:07:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I've got a bunch of
[04:07:39] Unknown:
them. Oh, cool. Yeah. Can you just print them
[04:07:42] Unknown:
off? Alright. Well, that's that's my next step that I have to take care of, and I appreciate your help.
[04:07:47] Unknown:
Hey. No no problem. Anytime. Thank you.
[04:07:51] Unknown:
Alright. I'm gonna I yield. I'm gonna hang up now.
[04:07:56] Unknown:
I think something that should be said about that is if you are if you're an individual that doesn't want people to know who you are filling out the form, you can always use an alias then get it so that you can pull it up on your own computer, and you can edit it to print it off that way. And so that way, you're not giving up information if you're worried about somebody giving information about you. So I know a lot of people are kinda cautious about that kind of stuff.
[04:08:22] Unknown:
Yep. That's that's exactly right. And the only required information we need is an email address. And, you know, I mean, I know probably some people don't wanna give up their email, but Make one. But I'll set up one just for this process. Yeah. So you you know, just so we can get the document over to it's all automated, and we don't we don't use those emails for anything but but but that.
[04:08:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not worried about that. If I wanted to make my own Avery sheet with what you already have on there, I could edit that too, can't I? I put my email address on there.
[04:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. If you have card stock, which is, like, eight and a half by a asking if you can modify it.
[04:09:07] Unknown:
You could you could probably use the Aila PDF to see if you can modify it. Oh oh, okay. Because that's just a yeah. Because that's just it's a PDF that'll download. And then just do the same thing and take it over to I love PDF and then add your phone number or whatever you wanna put on there or your email.
[04:09:28] Unknown:
So what I do when I interact with the public is I say, have you heard about millions of Americans switching their status from United States citizens to national? And every single person says no. So I find myself writing on a notepad the matrix docs and nationalstatus.info, and I've been doing this for years. Yeah. Those business cards are gonna be a big help.
[04:09:57] Unknown:
If we can help with that, let us know.
[04:09:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I think, we've got a kind of cross eyed look. You can imagine when we bring up this kind of stuff to people, but Oh, yeah. What will work To get people attention. That's awesome.
[04:10:15] Unknown:
The brochure on there too is pretty good.
[04:10:18] Unknown:
So Yeah. But I've handed out many of those too.
[04:10:22] Unknown:
Yep. Okay. All we did was format the one that Paul had. We just took it off of his site and formatted it, and then off the dock.
[04:10:31] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:10:33] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I'll I look forward to, sharing what I come up with with you guys.
[04:10:38] Unknown:
Okay. Ticker. Okay. Forward to it. Thank you so much.
[04:10:42] Unknown:
Alright. Thanks a lot. Okay. Okay. Have a good weekend. Bye bye.
[04:10:46] Unknown:
That's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on radio.globalvoiceradio.net and eurofolkradio.com. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is thematrixstocks.com. That is thematrixstocks.com. If you wanna join us on the show, you could also find links to free conference call right there on that website. Another website of note is nationalstatus.com. Check check them both out. Pack a lunch and stay the day. Thanks for joining us. We'll catch you right back here next time on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[04:11:56] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Host Welcome
Technical Setup and Broadcasting Challenges
Paul's Technical Expertise and Broadcasting Background
Saturday Show Dynamics and Listener Engagement
Discussion on Financial Systems and Private Equity
Listener Questions and Tax System Insights
Historical Context and Legal Frameworks
Gold and Silver as Financial Security
Affidavit Process and Legal Notices
Listener Engagement and Community Building
Technical and Legal Clarifications
Kevin Hoyt's Situation and Legal Implications
Passport Application Process and Challenges
Listener Experiences and Legal Advice
Financial Strategies and Legal Remedies
Historical Legal Precedents and Listener Questions
Al Adask's Legal Strategies and Historical Context
Listener Community and Support Systems
Legal Document Preparation and Submission
Listener Feedback and Community Engagement
