In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates a lively discussion with a group of new listeners, many of whom are exploring the process of changing their political status from U.S. citizens to nationals. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the intricacies of passport applications, the implications of land patents, and the challenges of navigating the legal system as a national. Roger shares insights from his extensive experience, offering guidance on how to assert one's rights and navigate bureaucratic hurdles.
Listeners also engage in discussions about financial independence, the potential of cryptocurrencies, and the complexities of property ownership. The episode highlights the importance of understanding one's legal status and the potential benefits of reclaiming land through historical land patents. Throughout the show, Roger and his guests emphasize the value of education and self-reliance in achieving true freedom, encouraging listeners to continue learning and sharing knowledge within their communities.
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Alrighty. Let's do we're gonna try again here on the Thursday edition, July 31, last day of the month. Pretty important day in several respects. Roger Sales, your host here at the Radio Ranch. Good morning on the Thursday edition. Usually a little bit kind of a different day for whatever reasons. So, mister Paul, could you come out and identify the folks that are helping us today, so we can give them recognition and a credit if there is any? Couple,
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anyway. Yes.
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Yes.
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We're actually on three platforms. We are on, radiosoapbox.com, thanks to Paul across the pond, who, has his own show, Paul English, live this afternoon, 3PM Eastern, right here on Global Voice Network and also on, radiosoapbox.com. I think he's also on Euro Folk Radio too. I'm not sure. We are on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. And, as mentioned before, we're on Global Voice Network. The links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs,d0cs,.com, as well as the links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Yeah. That's pretty much all I've got. Alright. What about the good news.
Okay. I have good news to share.
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I wish you some of that.
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Well, my cat woke me up at 03:00 in the morning. She wanted she wanted to scratch. She said, I think she was getting bitten by bugs or something like that. And when I got up, I, noticed, that, Alexa refused to tell me what time it was, which led me to believe that, my network was down. It absolutely was. So I got up at three, used a little boys' room, and then I immediately came out here and started reconfiguring everything. But I think I got it now, and I think everything's working beautifully. So, hopefully, there will not ever, ever, ever be a hiccup like that again. You
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you have Alexa?
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Yeah. I have a couple of them. I know. I'm and I know people people fault me for it. They say, you know, they're listening to every word you're saying. Well, hello. They're listening to every word you're saying anyway. The smart TVs actually have the capacity to actually record images of the people that are in front of them just by reversing the bias on the LEDs. Your smartphones are monitoring you. They're listening to you all the time. Whether or not you think they are or want them to, they are. Your emails are monitored. Your text messages are monitored. They are monitoring every damn thing you are saying, thinking, and doing throughout your life.
And just I mean, I use it for what what it's intended for. It gives me the it gives me the reminders of things that I absolutely need to address. It keeps an eye on my bank account. It does all kinds of stuff. I'm getting some value. I know I'm being spied on. So what the hell? If Bezos is spying on me too, god love him.
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Whatever. I was just I was curious because a while back, WhatsApp came up, and you said you wouldn't load WhatsApp because it asked to give permission to, see your phone list. All they're trying to do there is just see the other people that have WhatsApp and connect you with them. So, I just thought that was a little discrepancy, and you have Alexa and they well, they can hear you fart and stuff. So,
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you know Well whatever that's worth. The difference is just trust Amazon. The difference is I trust Amazon more than I trust FakeBook.
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Okay. Yeah. Okay. Whatever. I wouldn't have one of those things, for hell or high water. Yeah. But, anyway, so here we go on the, usually quiet, somewhat subdued thirsty edition, I guess. It's this this. All the stuff that's come out is gonna come out pretty much on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and then, Thursday, and then we got Brent on Friday. Does anybody know out there what the Federal Reserve Open Market Committee did yesterday, FOMC?
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Mm-mm. I don't.
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They must have just left everything the same, probably. Alrighty. So we don't know that. Harrison was wailing. Roger, they left at the same Okay. That's what I figured. Thank you, Dave. Quick quick comment. You're welcome. Yep. A quick comment. Somebody is that you, Joe? Yeah. Yeah. It's Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Mark sent me a
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video yesterday off of, Infowars. And they're talking about how they are using Trump is gonna sign an executive order letting the private banking system leverage the four your four zero one k's to cover the losses in a nutshell. That is entirely good.
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Well, I if you were sucker biggest sucker enough to get into one of those things years ago, that, will possibly affect you. Okay. So using your four zero one case, well, hell, they've gone in, Joe. To my understanding, maybe not totally, but they've gone into all these pension funds and traded out the cash that was accumulating for, rotten treasury bonds because nobody wants them. And, so that may affect you in that respect. So we're getting red there. We're not too far away from some kind of big financial event. To me, some of the the Harbingers are out there. It's like, the, Dumhitche was on, but the guy that works with Alex, was on with him talking about some of these harbingers, you know, little things that you wouldn't organize, but, they're setting up things in the background that will benefit them in the situation of a crash.
So if, if anybody in this audience still has well, it's probably get maybe too late already. You know? I don't know how close this event is, but it ain't far off. No way to tell, of course. But you can take those four zero one k's and with certain companies, cash it in and get gold and silver in replacement of, bonds or cash or whatever's in there. It would be a very wise move, at least to start checking on it if you haven't done that already. Right. I remember years ago, I was going off with my, my cousin. We were at home. I'll get you a second, Julie. We were going off on a a fishing deal, me and him, in the morning early and, driving a little ways out to get to the fishing place. And, we were talking. He said something he worked at the paper mill there in Panama City and something about his retirement. I said they're gonna steal it from you.
And, I guarantee you, they will. If he lives long enough, they'll steal it. Yes, Julie? Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. I was just gonna tell you if you wanna take your IRA or four zero one k and convert it to gold or silver, You cannot take physical possession of the gold and silver without taking a penalty. So it ends up in a vault,
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and that is subject to being seized and also sold multiple times over. Okay. Well, you can get at least get in there and get it out of paper and get it into gold. You can take all those options on your own. I'd pay any kind of penalty to get it in my possession, quite frankly. Although there may be some legitimate one legitimate ones. We'll see. Anyway, there's something bad. There are bad storm clouds on the horizon everywhere. And it's gotten really started. You know, what's really and we talked about it. What really has started it and is accelerating it is the fact that Japan has had to raise their interest rate four points.
And now people can't go borrow at zero and invest it from three to 5% somewhere. And that's been for many years, couple of decades, probably, the underpinnings of the basis of the World Financial, system, and that's going away. So hairy times are ahead, and it's gonna be severe. It will be more severe than the twenties. It will be more severe than the '20. Julie, I'll get you a second. Can I talk? It will be more severe it will be more severe than the twenties by far. Yes, Julie. What's your addition? Did you see the did you see the debate between Alex Jones and Nick I did not. Went to went to last night? I I did not. I wasn't in the mood. If it was on the Israel or the Jews or something, I'd have watched it, but a comparison of what Trump's doing, just, you know, didn't interest me. I wasn't gonna spend my time over there. Was there things that, you found particularly poignant?
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I liked it. It was on a bunch of stuff, but, I really did like it. They didn't they didn't really, they didn't really argue much. Roughly, they agreed on a lot of things. You know, some things there was dissension, but I thought it was overall a really good, conversation slash debate. Okay. Good deal. I didn't even really think of it. It was more of a conversation between the two.
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Well, nobody can do anything about it. All you can do is just discuss it. So, anyway, I chose not to watch that. Didn't particularly press my buttons. This morning, Harrison has been all over the Jews when I, missed the first part, first thirty minutes or so. It's all on the Jews after what I heard, and then he's switching over to this Online Protection Act in England. I wonder if Paul's gonna talk about that this afternoon. It's getting pretty severe. Oh, he's been talking about that for a week or two. Has he? Okay. Yeah. The, there was a picture somewhere on some social media site of, Manchester, like some kind of meeting commonplace in Manchester. I don't know. But the comment was it looks like Islamabad, and and they zapped him for that.
Alright. There was another one, this girl, unfortunately, that had been involved in those grooming gangs for ten years. And she came out and told her story on national television, and, they came and arrested her. And it was stuff like Paul. I mean, this is horrible. They take boiling water and put it up a woman's vagina and scar. Hey. This gal had to have her womb and her cervix closed by laser or something to save her life. And they had put just almost scalding hot water up her vagina into her inner female working parts.
And and, I mean, this is just unbelievable to me. Okay? And she comes out and said that's what what was censored off the television interview, but the cops came and I don't know what they did to her, but they came and harassed her. So that is really advancing quickly and in a horrible proportion. Don't worry. They'll try and get it done over here. They've already got the workings of it, the beginnings of it. I forget what they call it, child safety act or something, but the same type of thing. And, listen, just that you know, some people may criticize. One of my old friends got on x and sent me a message and said, man, x is pretty cool. There's all kinds of different groups and this, that, and the other. And he says, I was shocked you weren't on there.
I'm just not a social media guy. K? Per personally, first. Secondly, secondly is, it was just a matter of time before they started doing this. They started censoring back in already in the COVID thing. Now they're coming back, and they got these anti Semitic bills they're trying to rate race through. You you you know, they charge the law firms. This is so effing stupid. They charge these big time law firms, Paul Weiss and and all these creeps. And then they fine them billions of dollars, and they go, well, we're gonna for, quid pro quo, we're just gonna write the anti semilause for you. And that'll take up the fine of the billions of dollars that we owe you. And they agreed to that, of course.
And so now they're doing that, writing that, and all of that crap. They're and it's all gonna be aimed at social media. So I'm glad we're we don't have a presence there myself. I'm sure it probably has kept us from reaching a few people, but I I just, I don't know. It's just something that I've never been interested in Facebook. Never once in all my entire adult life computing ever voluntarily gone to Facebook to look at something. Never. Don't want to. Don't want anything to do with it. It's just my instincts I've always had. You know? So, anyway, at these stages, I'm glad we're not on there.
It hampers us a little bit, but we'll, we'll make it anyway on our own time. Yes, Paul?
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That's that's the problem that I had with Facebook and the integration with WhatsApp and and all that. When WhatsApp wanted to, harvest my list of personal contacts out of my phone, I felt an obligation and a duty to protect my contacts because none of those people gave permission for me to narc them out to WhatsApp or Facebook. I mean, that I I just saw that as crossing a line that I didn't wanna cross.
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Okay. Well, I don't see it as that big a deal. So it's just the difference in the way we view things. And besides, I was using see, WhatsApp was huge down here before Facebook ever bought it. Okay? And, because it was free. And the way those Ukrainian guys or two Ukrainian guys that wrote the program and sold it to Facebook and Zuckerbucks. And then one of them was managing WhatsApp, and he got so pissed off with what they're doing. He left. Okay? But we were using it way before Facebook bought it. And, it's just a great lap. The reason people liked it down here, especially, because most people don't have a lot of, extra income and spendable spendable, cash.
And so what these guys did when they set up WhatsApp is there's a platform. On one side is the Internet and the other side is the phone system. And they figured out a way to get WhatsApp on there, and they could utilize that platform, but they didn't charge you. And so people could use it for free. And that was the big draw on it initially down here. It gave it a lot of impetus. I don't think too many people up there pay by the minute, do they? You most of you got service accounts or whatever your $10, $20, $30 account per monthly. Right? Right. Got an account with a phone system. Right? Right. Because, see, a lot of people don't do that down here like me. I just buy minutes.
And everything works fine when I'm home on the, on Wi Fi anyway. So, I mean, I very rarely pay by minutes. Occasionally, not often, then only usually $2 worth just to kinda keep the account open. So there's a little bit of change going through it. But everything else, I'm always around the house or somebody's calling me, which doesn't, interfere with it or whatever. So that's just the way a lot of people down here do is, just buy minutes for the month. So and I'm sure you got a few people that offer that up there, but I don't know how penetrated it is in the cell phone population.
So, anyway, that's a little bit about that. I've got that interview this afternoon with Logan. Okay. Go. You got you got something to add, Paul? Well, the whole buying minutes thing,
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I mean, you know, you can buy minutes and and, you know, only pay as you go. But, up here, they they would expire your minutes. You know? You buy minutes from the month, they would have Yeah. Yeah. They would expire at the end of the month. But then they do that here also. But then but then they had this great marketing ploy that, well, if you don't use all your minutes, we'll roll them over. So, basically, what they're saying is it's a benefit for us not to steal the remaining minutes you have at the end of the month and flush them.
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But, Lord, I and I don't know how they handle it here, honestly. I just very rarely buy. I'll go and put $2 on it. You know? Yeah. Like I said, just to keep money flowing through the account so they just don't cut it off, which I've been told they'll do if you don't stick some funds in there on a somewhat regular basis. Anyway, that's the way I handle it. So they can listen to everything they wanna listen to. There's no name attached to it. That's fine with me. Okay? I hate cell phones anyway, quite frankly. Very convenient, but I don't for an old man with fat fingers and bad up close eyesight, they're just no fun to mess with at all.
So, anyway, I've got that interview this afternoon, mister Logan. We've been exchanging a few messages this morning. Look forward to meeting him. He's got, Sewing Prosperity is the name of his YouTube channel. I think somebody looked at it and said he's got, like, a 150,000 followers. He's up in Northwest Arkansas, I guess, around Fayetteville. And I think he does a open air organic market or something. So, anyway, I'll find out more about that. He's particularly interested in down here, and he's particularly interested in a pretty bit of strange interest, but he's very interested in cancer. Don't know why.
Maybe his parents had it or something. Oh, what time is it? Logan and I will do that. It's a two. It's a tape thing, so I I don't know when he'll I don't know when he'll post it, but I'm sure he'll let us know. Okay. Nice guy. He seems like a real nice guy. So anxious to talk with him, see if I can enlighten him a little bit. And, let's see. I did not go get my magicJack yesterday, Paul, because she didn't ship it until yesterday. And, day before, they'd gotten back at 06:00 in the morning, so I don't know why I expected her to do all that stuff that first day. Anyway, she did get it done the second day, and I, I may be able to pick it up this afternoon. I might just wait till tomorrow.
So, anyway, I'll I'll get it one of these days. All the hassles of living here, you know, and getting stuff down here. It's lovely living here. It's just getting things down here. That's a, I guess there's other ways to do it. I haven't explored them, but it's kind of a pain in the rear end. But we're well worth it to, live close to paradise like this. So let's see. What else is going on that I found fascinating? I don't know that I've got anything else necessarily on my radar this morning. Is it the the are there any by any chance? I should have started this way. Are there any students or new folks in there with a question they'd like to get addressed?
We had a couple yesterday. Not real challenging questions, but good questions. Good show yesterday. So if there's anybody that is in that condition, position, situation, please come forward.
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K. Hi, Roger.
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There's somebody right there. Yes, ma'am. Good morning.
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Good morning. Thank you for taking my call.
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Sure.
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Well, that's for re that's the reason we're here. Carrie.
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Hi, Carrie. This is Yeah. You're the reason we're here today.
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Thank you. Well, I do have a couple of questions. I'm about two weeks into researching all your documents. Mhmm. And my question in doing the citizen evidence affidavit Yes, ma'am. Is about the name because most women have had a name change if they've been married or something or other. Yes, ma'am. And the birth certificate then would be different.
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Well, you could just put an explanatory yeah. You could just take a little like, put an explanatory thing with it on your your name changes and whatever and identify that and attach it with the, with the birth certificate. I would imagine that will satisfy them.
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So do include the birth certificate with that affidavit?
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Well, let me ask you a question. Are are is it a DS11 that you're sending? Are you I'm talking passport. Are you going with a DS11 as a a first time applicant, or are you doing with a DS82 as a renewal?
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When I get to the passport, it's going to be a renewal.
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Okay. Well, then you might want to go ahead and send that in and explain it to them. You've already had a passport. Is that the same name you're still using, Carrie?
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It is.
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Okay. Well, there shouldn't be any problem in the passport then. You'll have to send them your expired one or if it's still open and you're gonna do it, just send them that. They'll use that as a basis, and they'll send that back to you. If it's still a open passport, in other words, in the ten year span of, of validity, they'll send it back to you real quick. Usually within a week because in case you're gonna use it for travel or anything. So, it just in your citizenship evidence that you're, you're in other words, you're doing, like, the what we call the cold affidavit with just the cover letter and the affidavit? That's correct. Yes. Just send it to them send it to them. Let them figure it out. And if you're still using the same name, it won't be too much for them. But when you, when you do your passport on the renewal, you'll send them your old or open or current passport, and you shouldn't have any problems in that situation there. I don't see.
Okay? Okay. So I don't know if you're this may help you. This may help you. I'm sorry. I shoulda added this. In a renewal, you don't have to submit the birth certificate like you did in the d s 11. And you don't have to go sign it through a postal employee or authorized agent. You can send it in yourself. Okay? So there's a and they don't ask you the question, were your mother and father citizens of The United States? Those are the things that they omit in the renewal that they had that you have to finish in the d s 11.
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Okay. Alright. So in that original affidavit for
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evidence of this, citizenship,
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use the birth certificate name or include all the names that
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I would just use the because see here, you're sending them a blank, affidavit with a cover sheet. I'll have to go into this story again. We didn't used to do that. Correct. No. I I got that. Do you know the story? Have you heard me tell the story? I have. There's you have. Okay. About the drunk driving guy. So see, that's when we changed all this. Now I'm gonna have to assume that you don't have any skeletons in your closet. Carrie, you sound like a nice nice woman. Okay? And this is for people that have skeletons in the closet. If you have not heard the story, I'll I'll relate it to you and show you what this hinges on. Okay? But if you've heard it already, I won't take the time to do it. So have you have you heard me tell that story or not?
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Of the drunk driver?
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Yes. No. I haven't heard that story yet. Well, I'm gonna show you the reason for this just so you don't everything we do here is thought out and thought through. Okay? The, I got a email from a guy. Said, I I sent in my passport application renewal. They not only kept my money, they rejected my application, and they revoked my current open passport. Well, I was shocked. I've never seen anything like that. You know? So immediately, I try and follow-up on it, get the guy to send me the letter. They'd send him. And what happened was, he's a Brit, came over here in February, naturalized, got a passport.
He got pulled over in San Jose by sheriff's. He wouldn't get out of the car. They busted the window. They they drug him out of the car, put him in jail. He did something that got him out of jail, and in doing so, being a Brit, thought that the charges were gone also. So that's when he heard my message and went in and did a renewal on his passport. But when the passport reached the passport office, they ran an NCIC check, and those two drunk driving charges showed up. So that's what they used as a basis for rejecting his application and revoking, as a flight risk, his current open passport.
So we had to come back and think, and I read the letter, and it said they charged him with two regulations out of 27 CFR, code of federal regulations. And and if you've got your passport recognized, those don't apply to you. And so I said, well, if he had sent in this pat this affidavit first with a cover letter, then he would have at least they would have been in receipt of it at the state department. Those two regulations out of the code of federal regulations would no longer apply to him, and he would have a basis for an administrative appeal.
But he just did this on the wing, and there was none of that. So I said, well, I don't think they can see too many of these affidavits up there in DC at the state department. So why don't we have people send one in blank? Well, not blank. Naked with a short cover letter and then the affidavit, and then wait twenty days. I mean, if you've got questionable background or something, not like you, but you just have to apply this to everybody. Okay? Because this one guy. Alright? And so now we say you got twenty days, then apply for the passport. And then if you have any skeletons in your closet, you've got grounds for an administrative appeal. Hey. I already had my passport in. These shouldn't apply to me on whatever you're using, etcetera, etcetera.
So that is the reason that we do this. One guy. Okay. Okay? Kinda Some of these little experiences question. Hold on.
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I'm sorry.
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Paul. Go ahead.
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Quick on it. If she doesn't have it if she doesn't think that she has any skeletons in the closet, the only thing that's gonna happen when she sends in the naked affidavit, they're just gonna send her back a letter saying that we received your communication. Unfortunately, there's no way to add or change your record to an existing passport account. And then you can then you send them back a letter saying thank you for confirmation of receipt of my citizenship evidence. And then you can put all of those copies and put them in with your passport application. This is what you've gotten. You've gotten it before. There's no reason that you can ignore it.
Give me my damn passport. But if she doesn't have any skeletons, I don't see any reason why she couldn't just do a d s 82 with a copy of the affidavit
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and just do it now. Just I don't know. Pull the trigger, get her done. I I'm Carrie, I'm just trying to explain to you the background on the reason we do things so it makes sense to you. Okay? And everybody else. There's a method there's a method to the madness here. Now hold on. And, Sherry, I believe, who we hadn't heard from since old blue was a pup, injected Sherry, do you say you have a question or something to add?
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That was I was a new person, a student.
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Oh, okay. Alright. Yeah. I'm sorry. I thought it was somebody else. So
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Oh, no. My name is Genora. Okay. And, my that story that you just told sounds similar to mine's. I was a flight attendant, and I lost my job. I lost pretty much everything due to the police. I gave them my passport. They arrested me anyway, plus my window out, took me to jail, gang stalked me for a year, lost my property. I went to update my passport. They now the passport that I had, it was only a year old. I went to update it. They took that passport along with the one I paid for. Basically telling me that I couldn't get my passport because I had a warrant felony.
That's what it said. Warrant felony. I have the letter where they rejected my passport. I really didn't have a rebuttal at the time, because I didn't know what to rebut. But I just got this information from a friend of mine, Todd, and I pretty much printed it up. I just have to go get it notarized. So my question is, in my situation with this because I've been trying to get my passport back
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Yes.
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Which they told me that the the, the charges had the the they said I assaulted the three three officers.
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Oh my god.
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A four a a one hundred and fifty pound woman assaulted three big police officers, and, that was the charge. So I'm trying to get my passport back. So I wanna know what Is it Janine? Having Was it Janine?
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Janora. Janora. You I think you're gonna have to go back and get that charge cleaned up, then go to the passport office and say this no longer applies. Give me my passport back.
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So I have to wait be so I have to wait to send an affidavit and so I have to get the charge No, ma'am. No, ma'am. Satisfied for
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No. You can go ahead and send an affidavit, a naked affidavit with just a cover letter. You can go ahead and send that. Yeah. That doesn't apply Okay. Applying for a passport, and it'll still be you know, keep records, get your return receipt, have your little folder with all the pertinent stuff in there. But you should be able to go back and clean up this, what they're picking up in NCIC, this you and three cops, and get that straightened out. Is that anywhere near getting straightened out?
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Well,
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I just sent, I just sent some paperwork. I just sent a executive letter to the state court administrator. I sent it to the raw I sent it to the district court administrator. So I recently just sent it to the state court administrator that's over the district court administrator. So I'm waiting to get my green card receipt back from Okay. Him to see if, you know, what happens from there. Do you Because,
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go ahead. Where did this happen? You were a flight attendant? What what carrier did you work for?
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Spirit Airlines. But, no, this isn't this didn't happen while I was working. This was off this was off off work time. I was this was in my leave in my leisure.
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Okay. Now they charged you they pulled you over for drunk driving. Is it the same type thing? No.
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Oh, no. No. No. No. No. They pulled me over for, my private plate. And it went from private plate to, oh, you have a suspended license. We're gonna arrest you.
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Oh,
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so you were doing did did you intentionally let it expire? Were you doing that intentionally on the Patriot thing, or did you just overlook it?
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What? The what expire?
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Your tag. Are you getting your license? No. I just
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had no. I just had private plates, and I had rescinded the license a year before. I turned the license into the state, and they suspended it. But before I turned them in, they were perfectly fine. I had no tickets, no nothing. No points or nothing. I just You you were playing Patriot Gal there with the plates and stuff.
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Well, after you get in
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after you get into this a little deeper and get yourself straight on your status, you can go to the Department of Transportation's website and get them to issue you a number for a private plate that you have a private car. Okay. And, then you can go and get somebody that makes license plates print that number in, and use that as your tag. Okay?
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So that's an option for what I had. Are you are you talking about the DOT
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tag? That's what you had?
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That's what I had.
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What state are you in? And
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they took Michigan. Oh. They took both of my tags. Yeah. They took both of my they took both of my DOT tags, and then the state police the state troopers told me that it was illegal to put a DOT number on a plate, and that was illegal to make a plate. So if I get pulled over, I'll just keep going to jail. Good lord have mercy. Wait. Can you just post the number and get it in as a bumper sticker? I can't imagine
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that a a a federal government website that issues you a number that says your car is a private conveyance that they just didn't recognize that.
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Well I don't have this is I spoke to
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that's because you haven't got your status changed properly yet. Well, Carrie will get back to you in a minute. It's Merica, Roger. I know Merica. What what what?
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Okay. Go ahead. I'm wondering if if she if she corrected her status, and if she did, it did it our way. We would usually tell our students to follow-up with the notices right away.
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If did she do that? I doubt if she did that. If you ever if you've studied our material before, and I'm sorry. I forget your name. It's an unusual name. But if you could just say Gigi.
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Pardon me? You could just say Gigi, but I just got the information in literally a couple like, a week ago. And I've been about us? I listened to the video.
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Yes. Okay.
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Yeah. I literally just got the, information, and I went through your page and read all of the information with the passport, the birth certificate, the affidavit evidence.
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Citizenship evidence. But what I suggest affidavit. Yes. What Gigi, what I'd suggest you do right now is Okay. Try and continue to five courts. This incident that happened is now ex post facto. It happened before when you had That was status. Now you're gonna change your status, and I don't know if you can go back and and and and what's called grandfather that in. I don't think it counts. You were under the other status when that happened. So let's try and get your status cleaned up, and then we can move forward from there. Okay?
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Okay. So I'll send those letters. I wanna send the first three letters out. I know one is going to the state department.
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Yes, ma'am. Let's get that one done first. K? And you'll Okay. All you have to do is notify them with a short letter. Please find the enclosed affidavit of citizenship evidence. Please correct your records as to my, current status, whatever. Just one short and simple. Yeah. Then you're gonna send that with a copy of the affidavit. Do at that point, you could also notice IRS. If IRS is important to you, you can notice IRS Yes. Since this has been filed and then send it to the IRS. At that point, you could also go back to the state of Michigan and notice your, who's that? Vegetarian you got up there as the attorney general. Whatever.
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The attorney general, Dana Nessel.
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Oh, okay. Her. Yeah. A little Jew vegetarian. And then you send it to her, and then you copy your local sheriff, your local chief of police, and, your local prosecutor as a cc, like a corporate carbon copy. Yeah. And you're gonna send all four of those. They're each one of those is gonna get a copy of what you send to miss miss Nestle. Okay? And you could do all that now and then work on getting this this, charge set aside or what however they're gonna do with it. And now you should be able to get your passport back. And when you do that, now you go back and apply for a renewal on that passport and you include the affidavit in with that package and you should get a new passport. You only need a card issued under your new status, and your paperwork should be attached to that. So that's what I'd suggest to you Okay.
Force of attack here. Okay? What what I still I won't have to, submit the birth certificate, would I? No. No. No. Because you're doing a you've already got a passport. The only time you have to do that is when you're first getting a passport. That's the only time. Okay.
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Okay? Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Genon Alright. Genondra. Right? Gigi.
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Gigi. What what's your complete name, Genondra?
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Genora.
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Genora. Okay. Yeah. So make sure that when you send your affidavit in, send your notices send your notices out as soon as possible.
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I'm sending them out today.
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But because that's your protection is the state even though they don't realize it. But that's what's really happening. I give you some technical stuff here, but let's just I've fed you a bunch of stuff already. You're new. Let's not overwhelm you at this point. Okay?
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And and I also posted in my Telegram group right there on National Status Freedom if you need some guidance.
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Okay. Can I get with you today if possible?
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Yeah. Just reach out. The links in the chat.
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You have Telegram, Gigi? Oh, Gigi.
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Gigi. Hey, Roger.
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Does she have Telegram? Is anybody hearing me? Yeah.
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She might, Roger, because, maybe she's following, Joe's,
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information too. Okay. Good day. Don't know. Paul, what's your addition here?
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If they revoked her existing passport and refused to issue a passport, I'm thinking she's gonna have to do a d s 11. I I don't I don't know if they did that. They just kept her passport.
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That's what she said. Yeah. They kept both of them. They kept both of my passport. I had a four star passport, and then when I went to try to update it with new information, they took the one I had and the one I paid for and basically took and they took they said I can get my expedited funds back, but I I haven't even
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even did that yet either. Just go go go back and just try and get the original problem straightened out. K. Don't worry about the passport right now. Go back and see get that Yeah. Straightened out, and then you shouldn't have any problems navigating whatever they throw at you. Okay?
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Right. Right. So I'll send those out today to the IRS and the state department. And, I think, who else gets a a wet ink signature one?
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No. You can send copies to any of those people. You don't have to send them originals. Okay?
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Oh, we don't have to send the original. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. I I thought I had to, like
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Uh-huh.
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Send them originals.
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No. You don't. Are you in the Detroit area, or what part of Michigan are you in?
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I'm in, Rochester right now. Rochester Hills right now. Okay. Is that close to Detroit?
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Yeah. I I'm from Detroit, though. I was born in Detroit. Well, we got a month number in Michiganders on here is the reason I asked. Okay? So I'm surprised they're not all jumping in to say hello. So we got a number of folks up there already.
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Well, I appreciate that. It's more of us in Michigan that's doing this.
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Well, good. Pass it around. Tell them about it. And if folks need their questions answered and learn more, here's the place to find it. So I think we got you, sir. Hello, Roger.
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Yes. Hey, Roger. Thank you.
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Yes. Oh, hello, Roger?
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Yes.
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Roger Sales. My name is, Todd. I'm a a national and a citizen of Massachusetts State, and I just,
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wanted to do a couple things real quick if I could, and it's gonna be thanking you. Okay. Hold on just a second. Todd, hold on just a second. Oh, sure. Gary, I'll get back to you in a minute. Just keep your questions there. Okay, Todd. Go ahead.
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Oh, thank you so much. Sorry. I I just wanted I I wanted to come in and not interrupt anybody. I believe well, Terry's a friend of mine. I believe Gigi's in my group, and there's Jennifer, and there should be a bunch of other people. All of my eight years of of awakeness and studying and researching, I finally found you and I was patient. I didn't have to, thank god. I I just I something my gut was telling me that all these different things were not right, as I kept being a a student. And I just, first and foremost, wanted to thank you, Rogers Hills. For thirty years of your family research, you got you're doing it for free.
No rebuttals. I have a large group in, in TikTok and and on a Discord and, in other places, YouTube. And everything has been changed to mirroring the video I saw you were on Grassroots, and then the a national Presley came on with his video.
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Yeah. What boy, there's some
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more you yeah. 18 year old I just wanna thank you guys so much. Todd,
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18 years old Presley. And his mother came on with him and said he's got two younger brothers that are sharper than he is.
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Unbelievable video he did, and I and they're on all of my, social media sites right now. All of them. I just wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I know this is a way. I've already done my citizen, evidence affidavit. I did it the way he did it with the 13. I know you don't have to do that. You basically just have to I so I duly swear, you know, you'll you only have to do the simple one, you know, that I'm not a US citizen and I'm a a a national, you know. And, and and I did it the citizen of affidavit. I got five of of them with the 13 and then the notarized on the back so they never can leave each other, and I got five of them, done yesterday, notarized.
Cool. And today, I'm about to do all the the cover sheets.
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Todd, how did our information hit your group?
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Was it the Well, I have to get Terry who was on here earlier. Yes. Terry came on and and told me that you were, she's heard you on the grassroots interview, which I'm gonna go back on with him because I don't think he ended up doing your process.
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What is the grassroots interview? I don't know that one. Terry, what was the grassroots, Terry? Who is the guy?
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That's Kevin Hoyt. Okay. Kevin Hoyt. Alright. Okay. Alright. Well, that's I've also heard, Josh, all of your videos. I mean, I've heard all of your videos. I've I've been through all of your webs websites, with, I just basically, this is all I'm doing now because I think this is the most important thing that any anybody who's listening, any of my people that are in here in my group, everything you're doing right now, this is the first step that literally gives you all your rights, your unleanable rights, your your constitutional rights. 99% of the content on social media, even these auditors, which I respect, they're running around saying you're breaking my old right right right right Right? Breaking this, doing this, and the cops are confused. But once you get to court, you lose 99% of the time. That's because you are a US citizen. You have only one right, and that's residency.
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By the way, we, we, try and keep you out of court. I wanted to correct you just a little bit. It's not just my this is not just my thirty years that I put in this thirty three. Yes. Today's the anniversary, the first solo radio show I did actually today. We forgot to mention Oh, happy anniversary. How many years? Oh, that was, fifteen years ago.
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Oh, that's wonderful. Yep. So, anyway, that makes that thing Well, I only could go back to 2023 on your radio.
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That's a good news. No. You can go back much further than that. You just have to bird dog you where. Okay. Which I'll do in a second. This is, what you guys are being exposed to here is the result of over one hundred years of historical and legal research in three men's lives. So that's what we call hundred years. Over over a 100. K? Okay. Go ahead. Had the tax thing. And the reason I have the advantage that I've had is because there was a gentleman named John w Benson who was my law teacher. His partner still lived in You talked about guy named, Glenn Ambor, a dear friend.
And, he Glenn is, you you you remember a a football player named Roger Staubach? Yeah. The Dallas cowboy? Well, Glenn tutored Yeah. He's a quarterback. Yes. Glenn tutored him through Annapolis to the Heisman Trophy. Oh, wow. Okay. So that's that's him. So it's those two guys that I crossed paths with in July about this time of of of 1992. And their problem we're not their problem. Their deal was they were totally focused on the tax issue. They had blinders on. They couldn't see outside of that because John knew all this futile stuff. Okay? And he should have had he not been so focused on taxes. He should have realized because they had us file our affidavits when we submitted this paperwork.
We filed it in the property records office of either where we were born or where we lived. And so they didn't realize filing it with the Manor in the feudal system in charge of all matters concerning citizenship. And John Office of the Department of State. Absolutely. I'm gonna tell you, if they'd have realized that thirty years ago, we'd probably
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live in a totally different country right now. That's how significant that is. Wow. Would have been a huge change if they knew 26 CFR one. They
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couldn't come back after them. See, they couldn't come back after them if they'd filed it with the Secretary of State. When they filed in the property records office, they start throwing around $500 frivolous filing penalties, which are now $5,000, by the way, etcetera, etcetera. So I just wanted you and your new folks to realize, look, this isn't just me. Here's what happened. I said, I got involved with these guys and I never had made enough money to have a tax problem. Well, by God, after I got with John You're so humble. I had one. I had a tax problem real quick. Okay? And so they sent me, a summons for books and records, and I decided to fight them. And I fought them in district court in a hearing down there in Atlanta.
And I had an IRS agent on the stand for four and a half hours. Never got one document admitted into evidence. And that little she's a cute little black gal, and, boy, she hated my guts, and I understand why. And, boy, by the time we got finished with all that, they went off and conjured up $30,000 worth of debt. And I went off trying to lick my wounds and, get myself back into mental health. And when I did that, I said, hell, there's gotta be a better way to do this. And that's when I switched always takes something drastic like that, doesn't it? I I that's when I switched to jurisdiction. And for years and years, I've been well, I use the analogy of, like, a blind man with one of those canes. There's white and red on the end, you know, and he taps his way down the side. Well, that's what I've been doing for all these years. And then I just I I had a little voice come to me in 02/2007.
Obama was running, said you need to get out. I didn't heed it. It came again. When it comes twice, I listen. And so I had to go get a passport because I decided I was moving to Argentina. And, so for the very first time, I had to go get a passport. I went and got it, printed copies at the little post office, came home, put my feet up on my desk, Todd, and there at the top of the first page was the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years. No shit. No shit. Now here's the reason for that. Because Yeah. The passport is a document under the laws of nations to present you to foreign powers.
So, therefore, if they're presenting you properly, they have to know your correct political status, don't they? Amazing. And so what they've done is I'll give you a whole but I'll give there's new folks on here. I'll give you the background here. Do it. Have you ever heard of the, paperwork reduction act?
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Of course. I haven't really I'm a student always, Roger.
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Okay. Well, the Paperwork Reduction Act came out at Watergate, and it said that any agency that puts out a document that's called an information gathering request, where you're asking the public for information, they have to send that document through the Office of Management and Budget, and it has to go through a very strict checklist to make sure everything they're doing is constitutional. And then they issue it an OMB number. And if it doesn't have the OMB number, the agency can't put it out as an information gathering request. So they have to be very specific. See?
And, that's why in the passport application are all the answers. Now they've gone to great lengths of item. You won't see them if you don't know what you're looking for, but they're in there. K?
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Well, thank God you have a little, affidavit to slip in there, Forrest. Well, good. Well, you do that and let I can't I maintain
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that there are not enough pieces of this paper flying around Washington DC
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and that to send them and copy everybody you need to. If you're having problems Well, Roger, I am I am in the process of making that happen. I'm gonna let everybody with eyes to see and ears to hear know this. And that's my goal going forward. But I'm gonna be this, guinea pig, but you already were the guinea pig. You you have no rebuttals. Everything I do is is exactly what you do. You you don't even have to make it your own. That's what they always say. I mean, mean, you put your name on there and you you're you know how you make it your own? You learn what you're actually signing and make sure you know how to handle yourself. Okay. Now this is real important.
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There's a direct correlation. Unfortunately, freedom's not free. I don't charge you because I don't think there's people that have gone through this that couldn't have afforded even a couple $100. And so it's just I charge you. Charge for freedom, you know, just Oh, okay. Because you're gonna have to pay me. You're gonna pay me, but you're not gonna pay me with money or with debt, Babblebucks. You're gonna pay me for learning and committing to learn and get your arms around this information the best you can. And the reason for that my well, your the degree if you really wanna be free, you're never gonna be free if you can't defend your position.
So you the charge is to learn and understand this information and, a, be able to defend your position and, b, be able to explain it to other people. That is where we get exponentiality. See?
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Then when you get real healthy and real discernment, you learn how to actually know how to the people that aren't doing the work, it might even be family. You have to know how to let the most high creator bring them when they're ready and go to the people that are listening and doing the research. I think that's very crucial.
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Yep. And you don't you this is what I say, Todd. It's easier to pull a rope than push a rope. Rope. So the only way we get people here is like you and your group and the people that this hit and registered with and they go, this is what we're looking for. I gotta find out more and you're attracted to this. I can't go chase you and beat you over the head with it because you're never gonna learn the information that way. And so therefore, you're never gonna be really free. And so you're really being counterproductive, aren't you?
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That's correct. You know? Same thing with me and the people like yourself, there's a lot of new people that could come in and kinda pick it up fairly quick. I've been blessed, by my maker to have, just, you know, got myself healthy. I think that's the most important part first, Herbaly. You know, long story short, and I don't really wanna talk about me because I have a couple questions, but I was you know, 02/2019, I was everybody has their story. You know? The the reason why they're here, there's no coincidence why you're on this call right now. So everything in the past made you due to this moment. You'd have to get rid of all that because it was all it brought you to who you are now, and I've been blessed because my last eight years has me basically learning everything without making any big moves, And now it's just go time. And now it's a safety go time as a national with all of my rights. You know? You know, Todd, it's amazing. And it's just come to me over all these years of doing it
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and learning this because I teach it every day almost. See? So, man, if you wanna learn this information, find somebody that wants to listen, teach it to them. You'll find out real quick what you don't understand and what you do. Go back and correct what you don't and go find somebody else to talk to. Okay? When you never stop learning, Roger. No. We never I I'm still learning. A thirty something years ago, I still realize stuff. Okay? So it's a process You're a student teacher. Not an event. Yes. If the event was when you cross the line with this information, from then on, it's a process.
Okay? Now here's the big here's the big hide. What set of laws you live under is your decision, not theirs. That's Vatel's law of nations, even echoed in The US charter. You can expatriate. You can go there's a very formal deal, takes a lot of money in six or eight months. You can go get you a French passport, come back to the state department, pay them thousands of dollars, wait months, and pretty soon they'll let you go to the French passport and then you can give up your citizenship. That's called expatriation. That's not what we do.
What we do is repatriate
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to the original status has been hidden from us, and we don't have to We've already got dual student we already have dual status. Well, hopefully so you don't want no. You don't have
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no. No. You don't have dual. You've got one. You're a citizen of The United States. Every time they've ever asked you, if you were, you answered it. Am I are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? You signed something. That's your agreement with their fraudulent contract.
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They put you in there for privileges.
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Right? They, they, they, they, they put everybody in to this condition as a surety for a fraudulent bond bankruptcy back in 1933 And it's the feudal system underneath that. So every child that's been born since 1933 was born into this condition. And they asked you, you're all Absolutely. Do you agree with it? Can you give us the consent to govern you in this capacity? And you sign something. Well, hell, what else do you expect them to do? Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Old Todd up in Michigan, y'all know what the hell he is, shouldn't he?
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Amazing. I just love it, man. Listen. I don't wanna take your whole day. I just, can I can I ask you a couple questions real quick? Well, that's what we're here for. But I don't want to ignore Well, so much deal here, Todd. Student. Todd, we have a deal here that women go first. Because if I didn't do that, my mother
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would shame me. Okay? So I'm gonna go back to Carrie who opened all this up. I'm gonna come back to you, but I wanna say with Carrie, did we address you Absolutely. Two more questions, please. Absolutely. I'm on pause. Okay, Carrie. You still there, sweetie? Oh, Carrie. Wow. Carrie, star six.
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Oh, there we go. Now I'm unmuted.
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Alright. There you are. Hey, girl. Can you hear me now? I hear you fine. Now what other questions did you have? Okay.
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Well, I wanted to clarify about the name for the citizen evidence affidavit because I don't know now if I'm supposed to use my birth certificate name Oh. Or my married name. Use your married name.
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Okay. So we don't have to go back to that original documentation of who we are.
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If they've got problems, are you're you're sending in a renewal. Correct? Not a a DS11?
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That's correct.
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Okay. The only time a a a birth certificate is required is a DS11. If they have any questions, they'll contact you, straighten it out with them, and do what they ask. I don't think they'll have any questions because you've got a previous passport already.
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Right. And so the cover letter does include the social
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at the bottom when that goes into the secretary of state.
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Well, if you've got a name So that will help identify. Go it could. If you've got a name like, Carrie Jones. Well, hell, how many Carrie Jones are there? It's probably a number of them. So in that point, you want to identify yourself specifically, probably on the affidavit. If you've got a previous passport, you could use that passport number that identifies you to them. If you don't, you could use the last four digits of your social security number and the, place and date of your birth. Let them ascertain it from that. K? And do that on the cover letter? Well, I'd do it on the affidavit if there's any question and problem with them confusing you with somebody else.
Under your signature on the affidavit, just put that information. If you're if it's Carrie Waszewski or something, there's probably not too many of those. But if it's Carrie Jones, you might wanna do that. So I don't really have a pat answer for that.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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And I do have a friend in our group. You had mentioned something in one of your calls that someone born in Washington DC has a different status or different way of approaching that, like the American Samoans?
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Well, the American Samoan is a whole different matter. If you're born in DC, you're a citizen of The United States. Right? Right? Right. Okay. Well, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. So the person that's a citizen of The United States, whether born in DC or not, can move over, in my understanding, to the state citizenship even though they weren't a state citizen simply because they're a citizen of The United States. And they get with that, they get access to both statuses.
They try and hide it from you. Of course. They don't want you to know about it, but I don't see any problem with someone in that situation, acquiring it and and, trying to use that approach. Okay? So So we don't have that happen very often. It it happens occasionally. I I don't remember any specific problems anyone had with that. Okay? Question.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. So a friend of mine who was born there Uh-huh.
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Well, here's the here's the logic. Yes. I'll let you finish. Go ahead.
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Okay. Well, yeah. So she has a couple of different name changes, and she was born in Washington DC. So she was just making sure how to do her affidavit.
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Well, use her current name, the one she's recognized under, and if she's gonna okay. Yes. Yes, Julie.
[01:06:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I went over this with you before, and, I have several different names as well. And so in my affidavit, I put my, legal name, but I also go by my maiden name and then combinations of my legal name and and married name. So I put in parentheses also known as, and I put all the other names that I'm known by on my affidavit. And, then I signed it. So that took away all of the doubt when doing my affidavit. I yield.
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Thank you.
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You know, the the what I use in these situations, Carrie, is it's easier to ask forgiveness and permission. Submit what you want. If they've got problems with it, they'll contact you. Fulfill what they're asking. You shouldn't have any problems. K?
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Very much.
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Okay. I'll tell you. So so the Washington DC,
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that shouldn't be any different, though. Right? The what just because she was born there
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No. To the same affidavit.
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Right. She still should have access to the national status even though she's born in DC. Never had anything shown otherwise. Okay? So, if they did, I believe it would be discrimination on her. But tell her to move forward. It's better to ask permission than forgiveness than permission and, submit it and see what they say. I can tell you a bunch of stories, several stories, but Mirka wants to say something. Paul wants to say something. A bunch of people wanna add stuff here. So let me go. Paul was first, Mirka. Paul, what did you have to say?
[01:08:23] Unknown:
Well, I've got a couple of things. First of all, the, she's definitely gotta put down her maiden name, like, even if it's an AKA because her married name is a legal person that did not exist before she was married. So that person actually got its life from the marriage license. And, the second point is, the, District of Columbia was just, like, hacked out of the country. If she knows, like, where, in the District of Columbia she was born. She could go back to prior to the existence of the District of Columbia. And then there will be a state. There will be a state territory
[01:09:14] Unknown:
underneath the land where she put her feet in the top. It was Maryland.
[01:09:19] Unknown:
So, that's not a big deal. East Of Potomac, Maryland.
[01:09:23] Unknown:
Southwest is Virginia.
[01:09:26] Unknown:
Okay. So that's not a big deal. Now my question is just with the whole name thing, we've got a bunch of people in the brain trust in the afternoon, and they just, like, go nuts about the name thing. So if you can hang around after the show, I'm sure that Samuel might have something to say about it. I'm sure that Julie might have something to say about it. Murca, maybe Murr. There's just a lot of people that where you guys can just have a nice discussion and drill down on the whole name and on what actual, legal person that you're addressing or putting them on notice through. Yeah. So that was my point. Now I believe it's.
[01:10:04] Unknown:
How about a drink of water out of a fire hydrant there, Carrie? Merck is next. Go ahead.
[01:10:10] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:10:12] Unknown:
Anybody that's born in, DC is a US citizen, so that, you know, that answers that question. There's no issue with that. The name, you can just put, like, you someone mentioned, the maiden name and then also the married name on because they do ask that on the passport application. So you can put on your affidavit so it shows the information that'll clear everything up. Alright.
[01:10:38] Unknown:
Now, Carrie, I'm gonna try and go back to you. If we can do so uninterrupted. I wanted to tell you and Todd in your group, though. One day, one of our old listeners, Daryl, came on here years ago, and he goes, a Gordian knot has to be untied the way it was tied. That's what we've done. We've untied the Gordian knot. K? They have to recognize it. They can't deny it. They can't rebut it. And all they can do is stay on mute when we really understand that with these papers being put forward, we evidence they're fraud. They can't deny it. They can't rebut it, so they have to stand mute and accept it.
And so what you're doing when you file this paperwork, two things happen simultaneously, best I can conclude. One of them is you achieve your freedom. You're back as a state citizen with God given rights and constitutional protections. By the way, just to correct everybody because everybody makes this mistake, The only rights the constitutional document gives you is civil rights under the fourteenth amendment. So every time you hear one of our lawyers like Barnes, one of our senators, one of our even our president go constitutional rights, they're talking about the fourteenth amendment even though they may not recognize it. K?
Occasionally, you'll hear them say, god given, constitutionally protected, but this is the type of thinking that I want to, sharpen all of you out at where you can look at that and go there are no such thing as constitutional rights except civil rights under the fourteenth amendment. That's the only rights that document gives you, and they're small r, by the way. Privileges. So alright. Back to Carrie. Carrie, what other questions do you have for us?
[01:12:36] Unknown:
That's that's all for right now. I truly appreciate all the input. That does make a lot of sense, and I'm much more clear on my documents because they will go out this week.
[01:12:47] Unknown:
Fantastic. Welcome to your new freedom. Start telling people about it. Learn as much as you can. Thank you. And get to a point where you can defend your position when anybody asks you from any direction. Then you're free. Okay? Alright. Love it so much. Okay. Well, welcome to the show. Please come back and join us. Pardon me? Yes. You can.
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Okay.
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And if you do that, check with Myrca. She's got those documents and stuff over on the Telegram channel. There's a couple of other people that have resources. Also, Dave and Kaye have set up a a really, really neat website with, with, AI attached. It'll generate your documents. It'll do all kinds of stuff for you. And that is nationalstatus.info or nationalstatus.com. K, as we're just this week, put up a website for me because I'm a terrible self promoter. And she has put up a website, rogersales.com, where if you've got comments, audio, or or written, you can go over there and, yell at me telling me I'm a jerk like these people down here are. Mhmm. On my, some of the people I used to hang around with, or you can put anything you want up there. They'll clear it, of course, if it's totally nasty. But anyway, that's there. There's a couple of resources on the website.
There's a trifold brochure that Gary and Gina, couple of our long time listeners, have, have put up there for you to hand out, print out. There's a Devon has done a national citizenship's handbook that's 71 pages that's really, really, really well put together. So there's a number of things we've got for you to help you here in your efforts. Okay?
[01:14:43] Unknown:
Alright. Roger, I have one quick question if you don't mind. Is this Gigi again? Yeah. I just have one really quick question. I wanted to piggyback off of Okay. Fine. I just wanted to piggyback off of Todd. So Todd, in the video, the guy Presley had did a affidavit of one to 13 affidavit. Does it matter which one we do? No. Or should we just go with the one that was created? Here's what's here's what matters.
[01:15:17] Unknown:
What we're running under is called a presumption of law. If you don't know what that is, you can go look it up, and it says a presumption of law is a presumption that's based upon another fact. So they've got secondhand presumptions going on here. For example, there was a bond, bankruptcy back in the thirties. And because there's a ban bond bankruptcy, we're gonna try and deal with the bankruptcy. And we've got this, fourteenth amendment sitting over here where these people are actually property, we'll just move them over in total there under the presumption of law that they're sureties for this bankruptcy. Yes. Alright? So what you've got to do and what you're doing when you deal with these people, it doesn't have to be exactly what words are used.
What you've got to do, however, is you've got to rebut that presumption. Mhmm. Doesn't really matter how you do it. Hey, Marcela. Okay. It doesn't really matter how you do it or what you say, but you gotta rebut the presumption. You can do it a number of different ways. We've got a sample affidavit that two paragraphs. I don't believe there's any wiggle room in there. You can use the state department's one sentence. Have you seen that yet, Gigi? It's over on I did. Yep. Okay. There it is. I, Gigi, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national, not a citizen of The United States. That rebuts the presumption. Just one sentence.
[01:16:51] Unknown:
Got it. Got it. It doesn't have to be.
[01:16:55] Unknown:
No. It doesn't. It can be sent in as a declaration. However, notarized documents take a little bit special more special space. Do you understand that?
[01:17:09] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:17:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, they're they're the highest form. Well, they're the highest form of pre of of, not the all she's doing, the notary, all she's doing is just recognizing that you're the person that the document is about that's signing it. That's her only job. K? No witness. Nothing. Alright? But what you're doing with that is you're actually doing court testimony. And so for them to achieve a higher position, they've got to do an affidavit under penalty of perjury that rebuts all your facts, and they can't do that. So you're stand by default. So that's just a little bit better way to do it. Okay?
[01:17:53] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:17:54] Unknown:
Thank you. Appreciate you. I'm sweetie. Well, we'll be fine. Know We all listen. Everybody on here that's so quiet I'll be joining you all the time. Well, we hope so. I'm a tell you everybody on here that's so quiet except for Paul and Merca, they are loving the fact that we got this whole group of people coming in here today. Because you make us stronger. You make us proud. You let us know that you're advancing in the right direction. You make us stronger. We love you.
[01:18:22] Unknown:
Thank you. We love you too. And I'm gonna pass the word to everybody that I know so that they can be free, and their families can be free. So we're gonna just continue to spread the wealth of knowledge that you have provided. And I thank you, and I appreciate you again for the information.
[01:18:41] Unknown:
Alright, sweetie. If you're right here, I'd I'd, give you a big hug and a big old smacker. So, anyway, one of these days, maybe we'll do that. I'll give it right back. Alright. Well, Todd, we're gonna revert back to you. You had more questions. And but let me just take a pause for a second. We've been in a hot and heavy conversation here for a few minutes. Is there anybody from my audience is normally here that wants to say something or add something or ask a question of these fine folks? Nobody? Okay. Well Right. Right here. Yeah. So there okay. Here's Boris.
[01:19:21] Unknown:
Yes, Boris. Hey, Roger. I I I have a comment for Yeezy, and welcome to everybody. You know, before I did this, I was not supposed to get a passport. I sent my affidavit and everything, and then I asked for the passport, and they sent it to me. No problem. No questions asked. I don't know, but I think that when you do this, everything else goes away. I'm not a 100%, but I can tell you what happened to me.
[01:19:56] Unknown:
Did you happen to and then
[01:20:00] Unknown:
no. No. I just paid for my for my fast food card. That's it.
[01:20:05] Unknown:
Let me add. Boris came on here one day, and we got him out of tax the tax situation. And Boris came on. He said, I wanna thank you. For the first time since I've been here, I was able to go on a vacation to Puerto Rico and see my family because I could afford it because they weren't taking those taxes out. So those are the kind of real life situations that we have here. K? Thank you. Oh, I do have one more. I do have one more
[01:20:34] Unknown:
or, really quick. So I was trying to pull out my four zero one k through Charles Schwab, and they've been giving me a great deal of, headache to get it because they wanted me to fill out a w nine. And I told them I refused to fill out a w nine, that they needed to provide a w nine, which they didn't. So I reported them to the CFBP to get some gather some information from them. And I also found who their federal regulator was, which was a federal bank. And they then sent me a W8, some type of W eight with all of their information. And it it's not a regular W eight from the IRS. So Was it a was it a was
[01:21:26] Unknown:
it a W8BEN by any chance?
[01:21:30] Unknown:
I sent them a W8BEN. They didn't accept it. Then I sent a W 8, Then they sent me a rendition of a w eight from their institution for me to fill out in order for me to collect my funds because they were trying to take out a 20%
[01:21:49] Unknown:
tax Mhmm. Of course. On,
[01:21:52] Unknown:
on my yeah. So would this, be something
[01:21:57] Unknown:
If they took the 20% out, if you filed your paperwork, you should be able to go back and file a ten forty n r with the IRS next year and get that back. And and I just I I know what I've heard and what we've discussed on here, and our buddy that's kind of an expert on this will probably be with us next Monday. He has spent forty years as a financial planner and knows all this area much better than I do. But you might also wanna contract one of the metals dealers who will convert your four zero one k to metals and let them deal with Charles Schwab for you. I I don't know if that's possible, but there's several people that know, that do that for you as a service. Are you aware of that?
[01:22:46] Unknown:
No. I wasn't.
[01:22:48] Unknown:
Well, there's a p l but Pete I wasn't. Okay. But I think it's Pete Elliott. He's got he works with Alex, and they do that. There's another one called Noble Gold that does that. We've got a new student in the in the in the oven, named Austin that's a gold dealer, And he should have been with us last couple of Saturdays. He hasn't, so he may be with us this Saturday. They may do that, but you can contact some people that do convert. What they do is they go in and pull your your funds out, and they and they put them in a custodial account with gold and silver. K? So Really?
Oh, yeah. You didn't know people did that?
[01:23:34] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I well well, I was trying to utilize the funds because I'm homeless right now, and I was trying to get funds so I can find a place to stay. Well, gosh. You're not it's the problem is none of it's gonna be
[01:23:49] Unknown:
instantaneous. But if you want just the funds, you can try, I guess, and get it personally. Let them go ahead and shine on the 20% and and, apply for it next year in the October.
[01:24:04] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I haven't even I haven't even pulled it yet. They want me to submit the w eight in order to, I guess, in order for them not to be able to take the 20% so I can get my full distribution.
[01:24:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we've got a guy on here, my paralegal buddy, Mark. He's with us usually on Wednesdays and Saturdays. He's having to take care of his elderly parent parents and stuff. He's not here today, but he's a little more of, attuned with all this IRS stuff about things like this than I am. So you might check back again Saturday. Okay? I definitely will. I definitely will. And we're on we're on the air six days a week. Saturday for the people that are still employed that wanna ask questions and stuff. So, anyway, that's where we are. So anything else, Gigi?
[01:25:00] Unknown:
No. Well, who do I send it to for the IRS? Do I send it to the commissioner of the IRS? Like, is there or the headquarters?
[01:25:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You send it to the Washington DC office. Somebody has that address around here. You can find it on the Internet. You could probably send it to any of their offices, quite frankly. I like to send it to the commissioner. Okay. Alright? And just say and and you're very short and sweet. Here's a copy of my affidavit now on file with the Secretary of State of the United States of America. Please correct any and all records in your possession Mhmm. My political status change. Something to that effect.
[01:25:43] Unknown:
Got it. Yep. Okay. Very simple. I rest I digress. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Not complex at all. Todd, front and center.
[01:25:57] Unknown:
Oh, Todd. I think I have one more young lady that might be being shy that might wanna talk before me, and then I'd love to proceed.
[01:26:05] Unknown:
Alright. Well, who's the young lady that's shy? We don't bite. I don't have enough teeth to bite you very hard. I can gum you pretty good. But, we'd love, we'd love to talk to you. My name is Mary Orthoske. Hi, Mary. Are you in Michigan too? How are you? Good. No. I'm in Illinois. Worst state in the world. Oh my god. I'm sorry. I didn't know we could go further down. I know.
[01:26:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Other way, it's, quite the joke. Let me tell you. It's a mess. But, anyway, I do have a question. Okay, ma'am. I wasn't being shy. I just didn't know how to work it. You don't sound too shy to me. I've been studying this for, no. I'm not shy. My daughter has cerebral palsy, and I can't get anyone to answer this question for me. I am her legal guardian of the person and guardian of the estate under the public because she accepts privileges and benefits from the federal government as well as the state government. Well, the federal government funding is frozen right now. She wasn't a group home. She's home now. But if I do this process, what happens to her? Because No. She get myself out of this map? Shouldn't have any She won't lose her disability or anything?
[01:27:13] Unknown:
No. Because that's for her, not for you. Okay. Because
[01:27:18] Unknown:
correct. But because I make decisions for her because of her mental That Good. I make decisions. But
[01:27:26] Unknown:
You got all the you got all the leeway in the world that won't affect that relationship at all to my knowledge. K?
[01:27:35] Unknown:
Okay. I'm still learning.
[01:27:37] Unknown:
Well, we all hey, Mary. I'm still learning. Studying the letter now. Thirty thirty three years, and I'm still learning occasionally. I go, I'll be damned. I didn't realize that. You know, that kind of a reaction.
[01:27:50] Unknown:
Well, I just went through your rumble, and I was blown away Do I have rumble? From the '19, '94. Well, no. There is like, to watch a video because Todd put put together an amazing YouTube. It's definitely it's amazing. And then all the, you know, the steps and where to go and how to learn your process.
[01:28:11] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And it's really I was blown away about the constitution. I know when y'all approach this, it's very complex. But when you get into it and get your arms around this, you're gonna go, I can't believe this is as simple. It's just nothing to it. It's all a word game on planning opposite definitions in your subconscious. The whole thing revolves on that right there.
[01:28:36] Unknown:
It's amazing. Is this the same as, common law courts as well?
[01:28:41] Unknown:
Well, common law courts, if they don't change their status, they're still serfs. Right?
[01:28:48] Unknown:
Right.
[01:28:49] Unknown:
Well, how you ever heard of a serf going and overturning the Lord of the Manor? Yes. I don't even think that happened in the feudal system. So that's why none of those have ever had any effect because none of them are all doing it as serfs and not as freemen. You get people filing this affidavit, you got a whole different twist on this common law court stuff. Now you got teeth. Okay?
[01:29:17] Unknown:
Which makes sense. Yep.
[01:29:20] Unknown:
Well, thank you very much. It's time to turn now. Yeah. Well, Mary, come back and join us as y'all cute. Yes. As y'all go a little further and get more understanding, you'll probably have more questions. This is the place to, place to come. You've got a a a family here. I don't know how big we are. I know about we have about 50 people or so on the average on a daily basis with us live. I don't have any idea how many other people are listening over to Radio Signal, Eurofolks, or one of the other ones, How many people are listening to this in the archives? I just don't have any idea. You know?
Recently, a couple months ago, I was on with Jeff Rentz. I don't know if you know who he is. He has a pretty big nighttime radio show. He's been on the air for thirty four years or something. And, even Rents told me, he said, you have a really large audience. So that's great news to me. I didn't realize that. Although, I know there's a lot of people that listen in. They've come by. They hung around the show for a while. They got their feet under them, and then they went off and did other things, and you don't hear from them again. So, I guess that's good because that means nothing bad's happening to them. You know? If it was, believe me, when somebody gets a letter or any of that stuff, Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger. I'm the first person they come to. Okay?
So, I have to assume that we're not hearing any of that, that there's nothing happening to those people. And that would just coincide with what we teach is they can't do anything to you. You now will be super kryptonite to super parasite. Now we use that word pharasite because who we're really fighting are the Pharisees, but they're modern. They've got a lot more technology and stuff they didn't have back in Jesus' time. Man, they're parasites, So what we did was combine those two for the word parasite or parasite, and now they can't hide. See, if you try and point them out, they go hide behind the Jews. Well, now they can't go because they got their own label, Parasites.
Put it in the lexicon. Okay? Just give them a few folks, yeah, a little background on the lingo and what we do around here. Thank you, Mary. Nice to meet you. Okay. I believe you are all nice to meet you. How do I mute back? Star six to mute or unmute. Star six. Star six. Mute or unmute. Okay. Okay. Alright. Now was there somebody else who wanted to say something, or can I get back to Todd before the show ends?
[01:32:02] Unknown:
This was, Jerry.
[01:32:05] Unknown:
Calls back. Alright. Go ahead. Hey.
[01:32:08] Unknown:
No. I just a comment for that lady that was just on with that, with her daughter being, kinda handicapped. Did you tell her about that methylene blue or that benzodol?
[01:32:19] Unknown:
I didn't. I didn't, but because we're off on a different topic right now. Mary, are you familiar with methylene blue?
[01:32:31] Unknown:
No. I'm not. What is that?
[01:32:34] Unknown:
It's very interesting. It's it was the first drug ever invented back in the eighteen hundreds in Germany. It's and was used for a long time still as a as a fabric dye, but it's got some amazing qualities for your health. And it really works on the mitochondria, the energy part of the cell. And, people are reporting unbelievable results with it. That's all I can tell you.
[01:33:02] Unknown:
Alex is promoting it heavily. My problem right now is her her, when she was in the group home, the group home was doing things without my permission, and then she was on fourteen anti antipsychotics when I moved her home. Oh, my don't give her We are now down to No methylene blue.
[01:33:18] Unknown:
It it really doesn't work well with SSRIs.
[01:33:22] Unknown:
So scrap that idea. Okay? I know. I that's why I'm I'm trying to get rid of the SSRIs, but her brain damage because she she was vaccine injured from the MMR when she was four, and she had a seizure disorder her whole life. So she was on toxic levels of anti seizure meds for over twenty years. They weaned her off of it the wrong way and Depakote is one of the hardest SSRIs to come off of and it just destroyed her brain and went she just literally went crazy and I had no idea about these meds. And now she is going through what's called reactive withdrawal. So she gets, like, sharp pains in her brain because it's like pulse. It's a mess.
So I'm working with a psychiatrist, but he's not allowed to work in the state of Illinois because we're a seventy two hour hold state. So I can't get anyone to help me taper her. And if I don't taper her the right way, she'll die from the withdrawal.
[01:34:15] Unknown:
I'm so sorry. I'm just my heart bleeds for you, Mary. Yeah. This is a nightmare mess. I know it must be. Jesus. If you you may wanna look into that. And,
[01:34:24] Unknown:
class action lawsuits against these meds. Oh, I see. Drug called Risperone, which citalopram, what she's down to now, and I finally took the trazodone away, so the trazodone is gone. I'm giving her THC PHG gummies to help with sleep. I'm I'm currently getting ready to order her. It's a magnetic. It'll go under her pillow. And what it does is it basically it it almost grounds her in a sense. Right. So I'm gonna try that so that I can slowly, you know, continue to taper.
[01:35:02] Unknown:
Okay. I am so sorry. And I'm gonna I'm gonna check out this methylene blue. Okay. Well, don't do it until you get her off the SSRIs. But AJR has some real cutting edge products over there, that you might wanna go check out. They have incredible supplements. Okay. And he pioneered my methylene blue. Other people knew about it, but he's blown it out in the standpoint of people's recognition of it. But, yeah, just go over and check out, Alex and them. They've got some fabulous cutting edge products that may help her. I don't know they will, but they may. Okay? Does he have
[01:35:38] Unknown:
a website?
[01:35:39] Unknown:
Yes. The alexjonesstore.com. Are you not familiar with Alex Jones?
[01:35:46] Unknown:
Well, I can't stand that man.
[01:35:49] Unknown:
Well, I know he's abrasive and stuff, but he's he's cutting edge, and and he's got fabulous products, and he's totally supported by his audience. Okay? So you don't have to like him to, benefit from his products. There's two other very good announcers on there. One that you might particularly like is in the morning named Harrison Smith. If you've not seen Harrison, you might wanna check out. His is called The American Experience, I think. It's from, like, three hours in the morning. And then the afternoon, there's another pretty high profile young man on there, very talented, both these guys. Owen Stroyer does the afternoon show if you don't like Alex. And I understand Alex is boisterous. He keeps interrupting his guests.
He you know, I understand all the reasons people don't listen to him and watch him, and I wish he'd straighten those things out. But, maybe he'll become conscious. Well, I'm not on the Trump train at all. So I I I don't I don't participate in government at all. Alright. Well No matter what the tide it is, I'm tired of the divide. Well, then you'll listen. You'll like the guy, the first and the last guy because they're very they're not real happy with mister Trump either. Okay? So, anyway, just a suggestion. It's a great place for some real cutting edge products, and their products are exemplary.
Okay?
[01:37:11] Unknown:
Well, I know I got silver from him, the the colloidal silver, all years ago Yes. From Alex Jones.
[01:37:19] Unknown:
Right. I didn't Okay. Mary I didn't realize it was Alex Jones. Okay. With all this health stuff, I'm gonna put you on the back burner. You can come back and talk to us on any of their days. I want to try and get through your group on these questions as much as possible. Okay? We don't mind dealing with Correct. Yeah. I'm here to learn. But but we've I've we've got, what, about twenty minutes left in the show. It's gone very quick when we have these time frame. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah. I'll Fifteen seconds. Hold on. Hold on, Mary.
[01:37:50] Unknown:
Fifteen seconds before we get let go of the health completely. Go to silverlungs.com. Silverlungs.com. $300. You can get a machine to make your own colloidal silver, and it lasts a lifetime. Anyway, that's it.
[01:38:07] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Thank you. What's Todd?
[01:38:10] Unknown:
Todd. Unless is there anybody else? Todd, star six, buddy. Let's get to your questions here. Todd, are you still there?
[01:38:27] Unknown:
Did you mute? Tom? 6.
[01:38:30] Unknown:
I know you had other questions.
[01:38:33] Unknown:
I'm sorry. May I ask Hey, Rod. Real quick.
[01:38:36] Unknown:
While you wait, John, all the alright. Joan was first. Dave Am I am I here? I I you're there now. There's Kyle. Hold on. Just hold on for a second. Don't say anything. Nope. Joan? Joan, what have you got?
[01:38:50] Unknown:
Hi. I just prefer that last young lady that was on there with the with the daughter that she's helping. I just wanted to ask her or tell her that ask her if she uses Sheila yet or an or and or tell her or tell her that it's will be, I think, helpful for her daughter.
[01:39:08] Unknown:
Okay. That's one of those cup cutting edge projects of the products they've got. It's called Shilajit. It comes it oozes out of rocks in the mountains in the, the home Himalayas and stuff. And it's, they used to see animals go up and lick it. So that's why people started using it. It's supposed to have all kinds of really positive things to do for you. K? There's that. Alright. Dave was next.
[01:39:38] Unknown:
Yes, sir. I wanted to say hi to Genora and the others, but I wanted to know where she got pulled over, in Michigan and who did that to her. And, I also wanted to give an update. My wife and I both got our passport cards, in the mail. The it was in the mail when the lady called us. It was already in our mailbox, and she said she had a issue with that our birth dates were mixed up or something, and both of our cards were in the mailbox while she was on the phone. And they're both right. They're both correct. And we got them, Roger, in seven days.
[01:40:18] Unknown:
Yikes. That's real quick for a card. They said four to six weeks. Alright. Okay. Now I'm gonna devote Okay. Alright. Now you'll go to Todd who we've been trying to get his questions answered for, I don't know, last hour plus. Todd, you got your onion Oh, I'm so grateful.
[01:40:37] Unknown:
Yes, sir. I'm just first of all, I'm just so happy. A lot of my questions were already answered. I wanna just start with first because I know I only have a few minutes. So I want because I want you to end the whole thing, you know, the way you want. I'm gonna be around all the time. I got a bunch of health stuff. I had a miracle happen with myself as well. I promote health big time with herbal stuff and everything like that. But, everybody, I wanted to say thank you to all of your longtime listeners and all of your longtime people that are in here being so quiet and loving and and loving my new our new family up. And then we're gonna bring more and more every single day. That is my word, and my word is my bond.
But, so I I just wanted to thank every one of you from the bottom of my heart. This is real deal. This is no joke. Thank you for all your information. It's
[01:41:24] Unknown:
real. It's real. It works. They're scared to death of this.
[01:41:29] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:41:30] Unknown:
Unstoppable. Un un that's why you never see, they've been on me in this information the whole time I've been on the air fifteen years, fourteen and a half, whatever it is. But you've never been touched and you're still here. That's what I don't see every day every day. Well and they want you'll never hear my name because they don't wanna send people to the message. They're terrorized of it. We live Well, they're they're they're
[01:41:52] Unknown:
they're they're really, making my videos. They're not showing them to a lot of people. I can tell you that.
[01:41:58] Unknown:
But it's trying to get out there. Well, I'm just gonna gird you with a little more, of armor, and I'm gonna put now you've got Excalibur in your hands. It's still new to you. You don't really know how to use it yet. You're awkward with it. But as you grow into this, you will be able to swing it both ways. And it's razor sharp on both sides.
[01:42:20] Unknown:
And welcome to the wonderful world of shadow banning.
[01:42:25] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. Right? Oh, no. It's been I've been doing a long time. And and on that note, I well, we got to Washington DC, for our friends. We got that question answered. We got the made in name stuff. Thank you guys all very much. I can leave other questions that that are a little I was gonna go through a list because I'm letting everybody know. Sure. Sure. So We'll start. Get start giving them to us. We got time. Let's hear them. Okay. So, okay. Let's start with, so the inspector general, that's already part of the, state state house, so they don't need anything, right? No.
[01:42:59] Unknown:
Okay. You can't send it to them. Doesn't mean you can't send it to them, but that wouldn't I'm sending it to everybody, Roger. Even my librarian. Okay? Okay. That's fine.
[01:43:13] Unknown:
No. I just want here. Well, let me throw one other thing. I wanted to ask you. So everybody in my family that's in here, make sure that you go to Telegram, PPN, radio, ranch chat. Okay? And I wanted to ask you, Roger, if I instead of giving you all my handles and everything because I don't want them I don't want them necessarily I don't care about how many people except except for how many people I can help. Right? But more importantly, I want all the people that are on your team to try to if they could come into my group and help my family as even yourself, can I post my, my handles to all of my social medias on the PPN radio? I tried to email you in Telegram.
If can you answer that?
[01:43:58] Unknown:
I would post it on Murr's Chitango channel because that Okay. Could you could you spell that out for me? I will I will. Just a second. I'm gonna explain something. There's two Thank you so much. Chats. One associated with FCC. And when this session closes, all those are gone. The other is one that's set up by Merr over on chat Chat and Go or Chitango. And it's could somebody give me the address for that? Numeral2radioranch.chitango.com. Okay. Numeral 2
[01:44:35] Unknown:
Radio Ranch. Radio ranch No. Numeral two radio ranch Oh, okay. .Chattango.com. There is also Chat chat. Chat. Chat. Go. Yeah. Yeah. C H A T A N G 0. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. Okay. And there is also a PPN Radio Ranch Telegram group. All of the links to all of these resources are under other resources, and they're right underneath the the archive links, below the FCC links. You know, you go to the website, go to the FCC links, go a little lower. There's two, archive links, and then below that, there's a little group of stuff. There's, the PPN Radio Ranch Telegram group. There's Mercas, National Status Freedom Telegram group. There's the Chitango sites. There's two different chat and go mess alright, message areas. There is also a link to a docs folder that leads to a two terabyte Google Drive with all kinds of oh, yeah. Well, you've been there.
[01:45:46] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Oh, heck. Yeah. I've been everywhere on that website. I've been in that law thing. You even have a company with Andrew Van Stiel that's helping people that really can't help themselves, and they're doing it for them.
[01:45:57] Unknown:
Well, with with the the relationship with Anne is real new. We're hoping it's gonna, break into full blossom and be a very productive relationship.
[01:46:08] Unknown:
I have a couple people that are going through that, and I will let you know the status of how they do.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
I will tell you that supposedly according to Anne, that our information was presented to general Flynn last weekend in DC. We'll see where that goes.
[01:46:24] Unknown:
K? Beautiful. Now I want to talk to you about all of that. My handles for you guys to all see so you could come to my family and all on all the places and actually and share all of your amazing everybody's got everything that's ever been done in your life is brought you to this moment of nothing to regret. So all of the things everybody has different talents in here. That's why we're all students, and that's how we're I just love that that's how this growth happens. So we you know, I don't trust an attorney out there. I'm an attorney in my opinion. You don't have to be a lot lawyer to be an attorney for the law. You know, I I I don't wanna call myself an attorney, but, I mean, I could. But I don't trust anybody out there. You know? I don't It's I need the people that I trust with high status.
[01:47:06] Unknown:
We have, an attorney on with us, Todd, every Friday. We have had for about twelve years. He's a Oh, my god. That's crazy. His name's Brent Winters. His site is is commonlawyer.com. He's very prolific. He's written a bunch of books on the common law and law and all kinds of stuff.
[01:47:26] Unknown:
He's been a private Brent Winters, it was at what common law? What? At common law, what? Lawyer. Lawyer. Hold on. Oh, hold on. Commonlawyer.com.
[01:47:37] Unknown:
And he'll be with us tomorrow. Okay? I'll be there. He's translating. He's been translating his own Bible for forty years. He's quite an Oh, man. Unique individual. You'll really like him. Okay? I know. I'm excited. What I will also hold on, Paul. I'm gonna get this out if come hell or high water. You said you could only access a a few pieces of archives. They've got about I don't even know how many years over on castbox.fm. Castbox.fm. And in the search, do radio ranch, and you'll find six or eight years of archives over there. I don't know how many. Oh my god.
[01:48:22] Unknown:
I don't know if they're still up there. I'm I'm gonna check and see
[01:48:27] Unknown:
if that Why would they pull it?
[01:48:30] Unknown:
I I don't know. Let me check and see. I do have Oh, oh, yeah. I don't know. Every single that's speaking right now? This is Paul. That's Paul.
[01:48:40] Unknown:
Paul, such a pleasure to meet you. Thank you. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:48:44] Unknown:
Okay. I'm bringing up Castbox. Let's see. Radio Ranch. Nope. It's up there.
[01:48:51] Unknown:
Excellent.
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1,418 episodes. I have downloaded all of those episodes. I have not uploaded those to Pod Home yet, the Global Voice Network archive link, just because Apodom wouldn't allow me to do it because I don't own that Castbox channel. So, you know, same same BS that that locked Roger out of it. My question is, have you been on nationalstatus.com yet?
[01:49:23] Unknown:
Oh, I, I I I might have, but I can't answer that yes or no. Okay. Well, if you would have been there, you would have been,
[01:49:32] Unknown:
you would have been impressed enough with the website that it would have been indelibly written on your eyeballs. It is nationalstatus.com. Nationalstatus.com.
[01:49:48] Unknown:
If anything like that law one oh my goodness.
[01:49:52] Unknown:
Well, there's the matrixdocs.com, nationalstatus.com. They're both awesome. Brent Winter's site is common. Lawyer.com.
[01:50:04] Unknown:
And This is amazing. We're here six days a week. I hope everybody's right in the town.
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Pack of us. Going into the website. Just keep coming back. It you we go over and over it again. So you know?
[01:50:16] Unknown:
Amazing. So I guess I only have one more question. Alright. Let's hear it. Because everybody answered all the other ones. Terry got it out. Everybody okay. So born out of the country. I'm assuming they come in here. They get a, they get status, citizen status, and they just whether I don't think they get a birth certificate. I guess just that's where the starts right there for you. Right? They just Are you talking about born out of the country with at least one American parent or as a total foreigner? That's what that's I'm writing that down.
I have multiple people for born out of the country, and I gotta help them. So I'll just bring them here anyway. But If there was one parent that was an American, they qualified to be a citizen of The United States.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Then they do the change. If they're foreign born, they've gotta come in, get green card residency, and go through the whole naturalization process. As soon as they've done that, they can file an affidavit and switch statuses and truly be free. This is away from people all over the world, and we've got people from all over the world that have naturalized that are now free, and they never had a chance or a hope of ever being free where they were before they found our info.
[01:51:30] Unknown:
With that said, I'm just gonna you're never gonna get rid of me. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go out now, and I just wanna say from the bottom of my heart, Roger Sales, I'm so thankful and all of your family and all of the new family that's be coming in. I love you all, and I will see I will be on, every every time. So thank you so much. Well, Todd,
[01:51:50] Unknown:
is that a promise or a threat?
[01:51:53] Unknown:
That's a promise.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Okay. My word is my bond these days. Okay, buddy. I can't even kill a book. You know what I'm going through. Every time you come, you'll be welcome with open arms. You and your whole Oh, thank you so much. And we are I am so happy to talk to you finally. Oh my god. Well, it's such a joy, man. It's just these programs are a joy to me because this is why I started this thing, and they come not not as often as I'd like. But this is the onslaught. And I guess the person to thank here is Julie. Julie, thank you for setting up the interview with Thank you, Julie. Where all this is. Thank you, Julie. Yep. See there, Jules?
[01:52:32] Unknown:
It's it's my it's my pleasure, Roger. I told you once you got on Kevin's show that this would spread viral virally, and that is just is what is happening right now. People are getting on to his grassroots show. He, he's just, he's an amazing human being, and, I think that it's just going to multiply We just gotta get him doing it now. At an exponential rate, Roger, for you, and I'm I couldn't be happier because, honestly, I'm very honored to be here as well. God directed me to you, and if it weren't for, the divine intervention and I love everybody here too. Everybody that helped me out with my affidavits, Zora, Murr, Larry, or Mirka, Larry, everybody, and then everybody I've met afterwards. This is my family. I don't have family, Roger, like you. I have no heirs.
So I look forward to this call every single day, and if I have work I have to do, I either multitask or I try to push it off till after the show. So God bless you. She's the guy. God bless you. Roger, you and I might you and I might butt heads a little bit on president Trump and butt heads a little bit on financial issues, but overall,
[01:53:45] Unknown:
we we think alike. We're we're the same, and and I love all you guys. So I yield. And, that's pretty much I imagine everybody here would probably echo about what Julie said. Yes. Who's that? Is that Robbie?
[01:53:57] Unknown:
This is this is Gigi again. Oh, Gigi. Okay. There was a gentleman that good. There was a gentleman that just came on that asked about me from Michigan. I don't know who he was. I just wanted to find out.
[01:54:10] Unknown:
His name is Dave. He lives up in the thumb, lifelong Michigander. And, Dave, did you have something to address Gigi with?
[01:54:23] Unknown:
Dave, he's blind too, so he has a little bit of breath. I was I was just wondering, Roger, and I heard my name mentioned. What what did I miss? Well, Gigi, we're talking about you. You had, mentioned what you had mentioned something,
[01:54:36] Unknown:
when you were on Yeah.
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Where where did the where did the cops pull you over and steal all your stuff at?
[01:54:45] Unknown:
This was in Frasier, Michigan.
[01:54:47] Unknown:
Frasier.
[01:54:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Frasier.
[01:54:50] Unknown:
And What was the incident? Can you tell us what what happened?
[01:54:54] Unknown:
So they pulled me I was on my way to an event. It was, like, maybe 10:10 thirty at night, and they pulled me over in a dark area in to this dark parking lot. And, basically, I asked them why were they pulling me over. They asked my license and registration as usual, same still. And I asked them why were they pulling me over? And he said, give me your license and registration, and I'll tell you. And I said, well, what did I do? Like, I tried to get questions out of him, like, why? He said, Well, it's your license plate. And I said, Well, it's a private plate. So and then they proceed I they were coercing me, so they were harassing me so much. Even the supervisor was there and the supervisor ordered them to bust my window out and I got that. My vehicle.
In their report, they stated that I was resisting arrest, which I wasn't. I'm like, I had asked for the body cam and all of that from the state. They never sent it. I just recently re retrieved the police report this year because they the the detective said, oh, you can't get a copy of it. When I got out of jail, they said, oh, you can't get the report until the case is closed. I said, well, how am I supposed to defend myself if I don't have the report? So basically, he was like, yeah. Well, you have to, get it after the case is closed. So basically, they were putting trumped up charges on, because they were trying to coerce me to, give them a DNA sample and I refused to do it. I said I don't consent to DNA sampling. And they told me, well, by federal law, I had a obligation to give the give them a DNA sample. And if I didn't, they were just gonna add another charge that I refuse DNA sample in which they did. And then the cop told me, yeah. Let's see you get out of this. And he walked out. Snotty bastards, aren't they? If you had your affidavit on file, they wouldn't have been able to demand that. That's a
[01:57:04] Unknown:
citizen of The United States thing. If you were national, you could flip them the middle finger and tell them to shine it on.
[01:57:12] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So they had gang stopped me for a whole year. They Jesus, mate. Basically broke broke in my home and stole all my furniture. I have text messages from the bail bonds company that stated if I don't, give the money that they were coming with a truck and take the rest of my stuff. And in the event, I lost my property. I have nothing. They pretty much stole everything. My dad, it was my dad's estate. I understand. So I recently opened up my probate. Yeah. They took everything. So, I've been kinda like just kinda like moving around, like, you know, they pretty much arrested me four different times, like, I was a habitual offender. And I was Jesus. Have
[01:58:01] Unknown:
never been in any trouble with the law. Gigi, I am so sorry. What a horror story.
[01:58:06] Unknown:
I am so sorry. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. It's been a it was a nightmare.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Well, maybe, you know, with Joe Lustica, who's probably are you familiar with him? That's the guy that pioneered those tales. Oh, yeah. I know Joe. You know Joe? Okay. Well, you know Joe almost got the title back. He knows the whole story. He knows the whole your whole story?
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Yeah. He know. He sent me, he actually created my, private insurance bond for me Uh-huh. For, you know, when I got my private plate. So they they don't even wanna recognize any of that either as far as insurance. So but all the laws and stuff is in there. I got it from Joe, and he, you know,
[01:58:53] Unknown:
sent it to me. Special guy. Joe's very special in this lawyer. Yeah. I'm a tell
[01:58:58] Unknown:
you. Oh, yeah. I love Joe Listica. Yeah. I've spoken to him,
[01:59:03] Unknown:
numerous of times. Yeah. He's one of our good buddies here and drops by when he can. We're about to run out of program here, and I've got an interview this afternoon. So I'm not gonna hang around very long, but I wanna tell you gals in the Dodge group, these people stay on this thing for the god knows, it used to be till the middle of the night. So if you wanna hang around and yak with them and ask questions, they're most of them are very well, knowledgeable and should be able to help you should you wanna do that. But otherwise, in that, we're about to curtail the normal two hours of the radio show today.
I really wanna thank Todd for forming your group and and all you gals and guys coming by here. Probably some others we didn't even get to talk to or recognize today. Tomorrow, Brent Winters is with us. So I just kinda let him go, you know, generally. Sometimes we talk about law. Sometimes we talk about other stuff. He loves to pontificate on spiritual things and just a hell of a guy. You know? So he's a national treasure. So when you hear him tomorrow, I believe you'll recognize that. Okay? And, like I said, there's only a couple of Fridays we've ever missed in twelve years simply because Brent and I enjoy the show so much.
My mind feeds off his, and his mind feeds off my responses. And we've had some hellacious shows. I'll when we got a little time to kill here, girls and boys, I'll I'll tell you one, and you can remind me of, a biblical word called Korban. And I will give you the discussion that came out on that word and the shocking conclusions that we arrived at. So, anyway, we're about to end the program here. A tickle to death to have all y'all join us as often as you want, and stay as long as you feel like you need to. And, this is where you can get all your answers your questions answered. And if I can't answer it, I'll tell you I can't. K?
So I think that's, probably about it. So we'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Bye.
[02:01:18] Unknown:
Yep. We just dropped off at Euro Folk Radio. We are still on Global Voice Network. Correct. So we'll probably we'll we'll we'll we're still streaming on Global Voice Network, plus we're recording in. Plus, the, the first hour of the after show will go on radio.globalvoiceradio.net, which is the list of the most current archives. And, today, Paul English live 3PM eastern. Oh, that's true. Will also be on Global Voice. So, hey. Hang around. We're fairly well mannered, and we don't bite. So you're welcome to stay as long as you like.
[02:01:59] Unknown:
Todd, Carrie, Mary, and Gigi are the ones we spoke with today. Really nice to meet you, and welcome. Okay? So does anybody else have a a question for me today? I'm, I've got this interview here in a couple hours, and I wanna eat and do some other stuff. So anybody got something for me today? Do you have It's a delightful show. It's a delightful show. I'll be looking forward to meet to discussing things and knowing getting to know all the ones that we interacted with today and the others from your family that choose to join us. So as we say in Spanish, welcome. Yes, Paul?
[02:02:43] Unknown:
Do you do you have your connectivity and and,
[02:02:47] Unknown:
all that stuff all hands down? Well, he's got a link he sent me, so I guess so.
[02:02:52] Unknown:
A Zoom link?
[02:02:54] Unknown:
I don't know what it is. Okay.
[02:02:58] Unknown:
Well, bless you guys very much, and thank you for everything. Well, you're very welcome. Meeting you guys. Yeah. It's a hell of a a hell of a lot of people. To learning more. Join us often. I'll join as often as I can as long as Daniela will let me. Alright.
[02:03:14] Unknown:
Okay. There you go. Alright, sweetie. Well, we love you already. Okay? And, so we'll look forward to seeing you soon. Now anybody else? Because I gotta you know, I have two cups of coffee and a and a health drink before the show. And by the end of the show, that stuff's kinda gone through you. You know? So that's, oftentimes a lot of the reason I'm anxious to get out of here like I am right now. So we'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Welcome to all the new folks. Exceptionally good program today. Seems like, Paul, you ought to go dust off some of those seats in the back there.
[02:03:50] Unknown:
Okay? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. We got 2,000 more seats ready and waiting.
[02:03:55] Unknown:
Okay. So Alright. Well, the multitudes are not too far away, my sense is, and I'm tickled to death after half of my adult lifetime has been spent on this. So and I'm wonderfully pleased with all of y'all of the beneficiaries. I'll see you tomorrow. Love all of you. New people already. Ciao.
[02:04:18] Unknown:
Ciao. Alright. Like I said, we're still streaming. We're still recording. Anybody that's got any follow-up questions from the show or any new topics that they wanna venture into, have at it. I'm gonna step away for just a moment too. Thanks.
[02:04:50] Unknown:
Wait, honey. That was a really good show. A really good show. Thank you all so much. I, my heart is soaring.
[02:05:01] Unknown:
Is Julie still there? So.
[02:05:06] Unknown:
Is Julie still there?
[02:05:10] Unknown:
Hi. I'm here.
[02:05:11] Unknown:
Julie, it's Samuel. Just a little reminder, if you ask Kevin Hoyt to get that interview with Roger in front of Sam Anthony.
[02:05:21] Unknown:
Yeah. On, your news.
[02:05:24] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:05:26] Unknown:
Let me, give him a text message right now.
[02:05:31] Unknown:
Because that's where I originally heard, Kevin
[02:05:35] Unknown:
interview Sam. Him right now and ask him if he can, have that posted there. That's a good idea. Sorry. And that's all about
[02:05:43] Unknown:
citizen journalism. And you can get the local news in your area from somebody who's not the press, so called.
[02:06:05] Unknown:
Well, I'm, Todd still here. I'm also known as DWG on Earth. I just wanted to say again thank you and let you know that I'm here if I could come up with any more questions, but I would love to hear more from all the seniors. If you have anything to provide, I got a lot of family in here and more are gonna come every day. But thank you, God, from the bottom of my heart.
[02:06:29] Unknown:
Hey, Todd. I have people texting me. This is Julie. If you'd be willing to share your phone number.
[02:06:37] Unknown:
Sure. Should I do it right on lie on this live?
[02:06:41] Unknown:
Wait. Did you I have Wait. Wait. Did you dial in?
[02:06:48] Unknown:
I use the no. I'm only on, what's called FCC. So you're on the FCC app? Use the website a web code. I didn't dial in. No.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Now, Julie, are you in here, by dial up?
[02:07:07] Unknown:
I'm on dial up, but I just joined FCC so he can post,
[02:07:10] Unknown:
his his information and I can share it. Okay. So, Todd, look in the look in the, attendees list and you will find the name Julie there, And then click on the three dots next to her name and send a private message.
[02:07:29] Unknown:
Why is it it's only showing me sticks. I can't see everybody else for some reason. Really? You know what? I don't give a crap. I'll share my number and everything. I have nothing to hide, especially when I'm a natural. I'm untouchable. I don't even care. I'm deaf. Well Are the more people that call me, the more people I can get in good, healthy shape and get their minds straight so they can understand this and discern through all this. I'm sick of people getting screwed and paying all this money for bullshit lies.
[02:08:02] Unknown:
Let it rip. Let it rip, Todd.
[02:08:05] Unknown:
So Well, I'm just letting you know that we're still not only recording, we are still streaming. So if your phone number needs to get to somebody, why don't you just email it to me, and I will pass it to Julie?
[02:08:22] Unknown:
And my email address Let me okay. I just stepped up to get my herbal tea. Let me sit down, and I'll write down your email address. That sounds perfect. Me to do that? What's that?
[02:08:31] Unknown:
Or you can put it in the chat.
[02:08:34] Unknown:
I can't see the chat. I'm having I'm on the cell phone. It's a little Yeah. Me too.
[02:08:40] Unknown:
Yeah. It's just the bottom button and,
[02:08:43] Unknown:
the three buttons on the bottom left. Oh. Right? Oh, okay. I got it, guys. I got it. I got it. Says more. Okay. Let me find, this is,
[02:08:58] Unknown:
Julie. Right? Yep. You'll see me.
[02:09:01] Unknown:
Okay. Let me find Julie. Okay. I got you Julie. I'll send you a private message right now. Excellent. Thank you. Cool. Did you want my you wanted my phone number? Do you want my, my links to my, like, my Discords and my Yep.
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Okay. I'll send that all to you now. That would be great because I'm on Discord as well.
[02:09:22] Unknown:
Oh, I love it. I'd be so grateful to have you in the family. We only have about 600 or something people over there, but we've been together a long time. And, you know, I've I'm on my third channel on TikTok. It's DWG on Earth. I used to be that alone, then I went to two. Now I'm at DWG on Earth three. They don't like, the truth in health. You know what I mean?
[02:09:45] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't do TikTok because of China. Yeah. I just know they're listening to everything anyway, and you know what? I'm here. Oh, man. I just don't like China. I'm sorry. Knowing what I know about them, I try not to do anything that's made in China if I can avoid it.
[02:10:03] Unknown:
I know that. I know that's the name. I don't do China.
[02:10:06] Unknown:
I don't do China. I don't do China. No fly life no fly life for me.
[02:10:11] Unknown:
Well, I got a YouTube too. Minutes. Yep. I got a YouTube too, but I don't wanna take up the whole show. What I'll do is if anybody else wants anything from me, I'll be I'm gonna be on the phone.
[02:10:21] Unknown:
What's your YouTube?
[02:10:24] Unknown:
My YouTube is Amari
[02:10:25] Unknown:
TV. I changed that.
[02:10:28] Unknown:
A m a r I t v.
[02:10:32] Unknown:
All one all one word, no spaces? Yep. Okay. Perfect.
[02:10:37] Unknown:
Thank you. Yeah. There's I can hit about 900 over there, which was really good because YouTube's they don't like to push my stuff out at all, but I have a beautiful video over there. It's an it's like fifty six minutes. It's the whole Presley. I just love that video with Presley. Yeah. Yeah. Did you DM me? Because I didn't see any DM from you. No. No. No. I'm sorry. I was talking too much. Let me do that right now.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna do that when you keep asking questions.
[02:11:07] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a lot of problem.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
Julie, it's hard to send messages when you keep asking him questions. I'm just saying. Okay. Sorry. No. I'm not picking on you. I'm not picking on you. It's Hey, Todd. You know, I'm I'm just I'm just saying for a friend.
[02:11:24] Unknown:
Yep. So, Todd, you you and all your people should know that none of this would be possible without Paul Beener. Paul has he's the one who runs everything, all the websites, all the recordings, all the renderings of the recordings, all of the AI for the show notes and everything, and so, you know, we have a lot to be grateful, to for Paul.
[02:11:48] Unknown:
Well, god bless you, Paul.
[02:11:51] Unknown:
You're only saying that because it's true. No. Thank you, Julie.
[02:11:59] Unknown:
No. You're not too Thank you. Too, Sue. And it is true, Paul.
[02:12:03] Unknown:
We need to get your, gift then go stuff started back up again because Paul does this for free, and he's on here hours every day and then hours afterwards trying to render the videos and upload them and edit them. And that is very labor intensive, and he does all of his stuff for free.
[02:12:22] Unknown:
Let's see. Call this for.
[02:12:26] Unknown:
Yep. Radio Ranch. Woah. What? Oh, man. Give Sango took the, took the thing down again. Dang it. Oh, let's see. Republish. Campaign dashboard. Oh, it says it's published. So why didn't it come up when I tried to go there? Darn thing.
[02:13:08] Unknown:
You know what's amazing? About that Martin Armstrong article.
[02:13:18] Unknown:
Paul, I just wanna give out some information for that lady with the passport right quick. Just a couple of, CFRs. 22 CFR 51.3.
[02:13:35] Unknown:
Is this Jerry? Yeah. This is Jerry. Oh, hi, Jerry. It's me, Julie.
[02:13:40] Unknown:
Hi.
[02:13:43] Unknown:
Before that other lady that was doing her passport or whatever, she already had her passport. But just information that she can look up and do more studying. That 22 CFR51.3, and it's type of passports. And then it's it's also eight hold on. Let me let me find it. 8, FFAM
[02:14:10] Unknown:
How do you how do you do that again? Can you repeat that with letters f what?
[02:14:14] Unknown:
F a it's 8FAM.
[02:14:22] Unknown:
FAsInFrankAAsFFAsInFrankAAsInAppleMAsInMary?
[02:14:27] Unknown:
Right. Hold on a minute. I'll give it to you right off the bat.
[02:14:36] Unknown:
So, Jerry, it's 22CFR51.3 type of passport.
[02:14:43] Unknown:
Right. And then the other one is 8FAM505.2Dash10.
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Okay. So the number 8FAMFrankAppleMary505Dot2Dash10.
[02:15:11] Unknown:
Endorsement O9.
[02:15:13] Unknown:
Endorsement O9. Okay.
[02:15:21] Unknown:
And that's that's, that's the passport types, and it tells you. It says the bearer is a United States national and not a United States citizen. A. This is placed in a passport book issued to a noncitizen US National. B, US National will be printed instead of USA on the front of the passport card. C, prior to creation of the endorsement in 1992, the bearer status as a noncitizen US national was indicated by circling the word capital national or crossing out the word capital citizen in the secretary's message on the signature page of the US passport. And, of course, it lists all the other all the other endorsements, like eight, ten, eleven, twelve.
But, anyway, when you when you're filing out your filling out your passport, application at the post office, that little square box on the side, it underneath it, it has, like, four or five little, squares with letters in them. So I was just making this doing this through, when you, do your citizenship affidavit because they're gonna send you back, like, on my passport book, my all capital names. But when you sign that application, you sign it in uppercase, lowercase. Right? So you're telling them up there at the top of that right hand box in the right hand corner what you are and what you want. They're giving you that option.
Right? To let them know that you are this and you are this and what type of passport you want.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
You see what I mean? I have a quick question about the passport real quick. Can you use an expired passport? Because mine's expired. Yes.
[02:17:52] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. So, Jerry so, Jerry, I Jerry, I have to, I haven't I've done all my affidavits and everything, but I my passport is gonna be expiring soon, and so I need to do the national passport. So what do I do? Is that the DS11 that I'm gonna need?
[02:18:11] Unknown:
No. That's the 82.
[02:18:13] Unknown:
Okay. DS82.
[02:18:14] Unknown:
Okay. Right. But but it's still on the 80
[02:18:19] Unknown:
on the on the 82, it still has that little hold on. Let me see. I've got a but, anyway, go ahead with your question.
[02:18:27] Unknown:
So Do you I just need
[02:18:30] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[02:18:33] Unknown:
Would that pertain to me to, the one, about the court case I was telling them about where they took my passport and I paid for another one? Should I use my Social Security number or the passport number that they took?
[02:18:50] Unknown:
You wanna go ahead and give them that information. You don't wanna be and then once you get that but you wanna designate exactly what type of passport or who you are.
[02:19:05] Unknown:
Who you So I will have to fill out another, application?
[02:19:10] Unknown:
Yes. If you if you already had a passport, you need to fill out another DS82 because you are they already issued you a passport.
[02:19:19] Unknown:
Right. Okay. So, Jerry, do you wanna do that before it expires? You can you can do that either or. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it expires. You can do it after. It's no easier. And then how long does it take usually when you change your passport from a US citizen to a national to get it back?
[02:19:41] Unknown:
It it it shouldn't take that long. I mean, I got now don't get me wrong. I'm new at this too. I'm pretty new at this. But as I'm learning this stuff see, I have a passport application right here in front of me. It is the DS11, but the the DS82 is the same. Okay. I made it when you're done. But, anyway, right there at the very front page on that application, it has select documents for which you are submitted. A US passport book, US passport card, or both. And then right to the right side of it, it has a little brown box with it it's just white.
But underneath it is it's, letter d, the letter o, the letter s, or the letter n f r. Alright? Now the a f a m down there tells you what those letters designate. Like, d is for diplomat. Right? O is for official. I forgot what s was for, and I forgot what NFR is. I have to go back and look at it. But, anyway, on there, it there, it doesn't have the letter n. Right? So you put down there. You mark it the letter d, diplomat. Okay? And when you're going through there, it's it and, when you're filling it out right there in the bank, like, it says applicant first name. Right? Date of birth, parents, parental, mother, father, parent, guardian.
And then it says mother, father, and then it asks you, are they, what's their gender? And then it asks you, are they US citizens? You mark no. You know, I messed up and mark yes. That puts me back into that capital letter fiction name. Right.
[02:21:58] Unknown:
What happens if your, parents are deceased? Do you still list them?
[02:22:04] Unknown:
Yes. I did. I had to mine mine are deceased. My mother was born in Mexico. But you mark are they US citizens? No. They're not US citizens.
[02:22:18] Unknown:
Jerry. No. Jerry. No. Everything you no. No. Jerry. I'm gonna stop you right there. Yes, sir. Unless you actually have physical evidence that your parents were not citizens of The United States, answer that question yes. It does not put you back into this system because your political status and what system of laws you are governed under is your decision, your choice. You were presumed to be a citizen of The United States purely by virtue of the fact you were born here, and you were labeled with that stigma thanks to the fourteenth amendment. If if I can if if I could say it any other way, it's they take passport fraud very, very seriously. You have to sign the application under penalty of perjury.
And if you are absolutely positively not sure of any answer on that form, answer that bastard to the best of your ability, and then go on with life. Do not make a blanket statement that saying your parents were served automatically makes you a serf and sucks you back in there. It doesn't. Answer that question truthfully. If they were born here or naturalized here, they were citizens. And if you wanna attach a document saying, explaining, you know, you could say that your parents were citizens in The United States, but then attach a document saying that you really don't know. They have long since met their maker and it doesn't matter because your decision, your your political status is your decision, period.
So that that's all fine. Alright. When I first
[02:24:10] Unknown:
when I first did this, I sent what's called a abstract birth certificate title with my parents both my parents' name on it. My name on it, both my parents' name on it. Did you get the, mister Nathan from your job?
[02:24:26] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:24:27] Unknown:
You're mumbling.
[02:24:30] Unknown:
No. I had somebody else talking.
[02:24:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Anyway, I sent the when I first applied the d s 11.
[02:24:40] Unknown:
You off today. I wanna get stuff done. I don't wait and have money to keep.
[02:24:50] Unknown:
Somebody unmuted.
[02:24:54] Unknown:
Me?
[02:24:55] Unknown:
I think that's Yeezy. Yeezy.
[02:24:58] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I'm muted.
[02:25:02] Unknown:
I need Julie in a minute.
[02:25:13] Unknown:
Okay. There. I just republished the Gibson Go and updated the web addresses. I had exposed to matrix.com on there on supporting the Radio Ranch, and that goes to a a test bed website. So I just added the matrixdogs.com on there as well. Plus links to Global Voice Radio and, the, and the archive link, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. There. Covered.
[02:25:48] Unknown:
Julie?
[02:25:54] Unknown:
Julie? No worries. Can can you hear me?
[02:25:58] Unknown:
There you are. Can you hear me?
[02:26:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I can now can now. The answer to your question is fifteen years. Your original passport numbers and card is good for fifteen years. If they don't hear from you fifteen years post ex expiration, you've gotta switch to a d s 11.
[02:26:19] Unknown:
Okay. So what but I'm my passport that I have right now is not good for fifteen years. It's good for ten. And, I'm switching from the federal citizen over to the national. So I've been told that I need to fill out a new D s 82 for that switch in status.
[02:26:39] Unknown:
Okay. You didn't hear me. After your ten years is over, you still have fifteen years of validity in your file before they want you to file with a completely new person.
[02:26:54] Unknown:
So what does that mean? What are you telling me? I can do a d s 11?
[02:26:58] Unknown:
No. You can do a DS82.
[02:27:00] Unknown:
Your other one expired? Pardon me?
[02:27:05] Unknown:
Has your other one expired?
[02:27:07] Unknown:
It expired. It expires in August.
[02:27:10] Unknown:
'82.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
So I fill out an '82?
[02:27:15] Unknown:
Yep. Yes. Your records are kept current. I don't know how to word this. I just know what they told me. Your records are kept current fifteen years after your expiration date on your passport. Okay. I get it now. Okay.
[02:27:31] Unknown:
Thank you very much. And, is who is this speaking? Is this, Sheldon?
[02:27:36] Unknown:
Yes. It is, Donna. You have a good day. Thank you, sweetie.
[02:27:41] Unknown:
I'm done. I might call you, Sheldon, later on.
[02:27:45] Unknown:
Yeah. You missed yesterday's schedule. I was hoping you were alright.
[02:27:50] Unknown:
Yesterday, I was on the show, but but I was multitasking.
[02:27:57] Unknown:
I know. I thought the deer might've got a hold of you.
[02:28:00] Unknown:
We'll talk to you we'll talk to you later. By the way, I had the most gorgeous buck, ginormous in my backyard today.
[02:28:11] Unknown:
Do you get another picture?
[02:28:13] Unknown:
I did get a picture today after today. No. Absolutely
[02:28:17] Unknown:
gorgeous. Well well, you you gotta close that gate. You gotta keep them them them burgers out of there. They're gonna eat all your grass.
[02:28:28] Unknown:
No, Paul. It's Paul there. I have a huge, fence around my property. It's just not a privacy fence. So they can't get into my backyard, but I can see them, you know, through the fence because it's it's not a privacy fence. And so they behind my house is a huge conservation area, which is just gorgeous because of the number of trees back there. And they go and they eat the foliage back there. So, they come right up to the fence and you can see them right through and they're beautiful. But Sheldon on the other hand, this and Sheldon on the other hand has, deer that will eat out of his hand.
They will let him pet them. They are gorgeous.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we've talked about that quite a bit. And, seeing as you have a fence and they go right up to the fence, you could put, like, a little corn pile.
[02:29:23] Unknown:
A corn pile
[02:29:24] Unknown:
I put food there. I put food there for them all the time. I put vegetables and stuff back there for them. You can you can put you a little corn pile or something like that right on the other side of the fence, but you're gonna need a sign. You're gonna have to put a sign on the fence to protect yourself because they would've they might accuse you of baiting deer. So you get one of them signs that says, warning. This corn pile is here for squirrels, chipmunks, and other critters. Any deer found eating this corn will be shot. That is so that's that's fair warning to the so you're you're absolutely not baiting the deer. That's for the other critters.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
So Yeah. They can't nobody could see nobody can see what I do, on on my, fence area, so I don't need to put a sign.
[02:30:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Really? I thought that was gonna be funny. Black.
[02:30:23] Unknown:
I know. I know it was that's why I gave you that answer.
[02:30:32] Unknown:
Really Go ahead. Black rye.
[02:30:34] Unknown:
Russianite, jelly rye. Crack. You'll have them coming back every day if you give them a little slice of that.
[02:30:42] Unknown:
Of the bread? Rye?
[02:30:44] Unknown:
Rye bread?
[02:30:46] Unknown:
Jelly rye, the black rye, the Russian rye.
[02:30:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, you mean pumpernickel? Are you talking about pumpernickel? That as well.
[02:30:55] Unknown:
That as well. Wow.
[02:31:00] Unknown:
Wow. Thank you.
[02:31:03] Unknown:
You're welcome. I've got I've got some, seeded rye in the refrigerator. I bought it as day old bread for, like, 75 percent off. So that's what I've been eating, you know, coming up on payday. It's actually yummy.
[02:31:26] Unknown:
Delicious.
[02:31:28] Unknown:
Yes. My favorite, pumpernickel. I used to sit down and mow through half a loaf of pumpernickel when I was a kid. Pumpernickel and butter, that's all I needed.
[02:31:41] Unknown:
Not that I'm not a fan of bread, but, it's for voting in in the Wallach regime.
[02:31:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Well,
[02:31:51] Unknown:
Would you guys mind real quick if I ask a quick question about finances
[02:31:56] Unknown:
if you have the answer?
[02:32:04] Unknown:
What are your thoughts on Bitcoin? I have a gold and silver IRA stored in depository out of Texas Stratus Company. But I'm hearing a lot I'm I'm conflicted on Bitcoin. Did do you guys own any Bitcoin? Are you there? Yeah. I
[02:32:25] Unknown:
I have some, but I'm not sure. I don't know. There's a lot of people on here who I speak to who say Bitcoin's the wave of the future. There's a lot of people who say, no. Bitcoin is not the wave of the future. I have kind of transitioned out of Bitcoin into XLM and XRP because XRP is gonna be the cross border payment system on the blockchain, as well as XLM. And some of the ISO Gold? Some of the ISO some of the ISO two zero zero two two coins like HBAR, I have. But nobody I mean, I think cryptocurrency is gonna be your digital currency for the future. It can be tracked, surveilled, and the Genius Act is the Stablecoin Act.
And, my understanding is that, my understanding is what's going on right now is that, so you'll hear online that the, everybody's selling their treasuries, like China's dumping the treasuries and everybody's dumping the treasury bonds. What's happening right now is we're using USD Tether to soak up the foreign dumping of the treasury bonds. And these people are being paid in Tether, which is a digital form of crypto dollar, it's a stable coin. And my understanding is that we're soaking up the treasury bonds. We're not giving them the dollar, we're giving them the tether, but we're creating the tether by backing up with Bitcoin collateral. So it's very confusing here. You hear Trump saying stuff about, the sovereign wealth fund is gonna be backed by Bitcoin.
Where did The United States get that Bitcoin that was Bitcoin was seized, from other companies, my under from other countries, my understanding is for violations of executive order one three eight one eight, one three eight four eight, one three nine four nine or something, crimes against humanity and election interference. I don't have proof of that, but I just say get diversified. I would not put anything into one basket. Okay. Because I don't even understand what that says. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Everybody keeps saying that the Federal Reserve notes are going away. That is factually incorrect. You can go read the Genius Act Genius Act Genius Act right underneath it says, and ask for the issuance of stablecoins.
And so the what we're going to war. And so what they're doing right now is a repeat of the Civil War of eighteen sixty eight when we the we needed funding after the Civil War. And what they did was they made the bank by government bonds and in exchange, the, banks were allowed to issue national bank notes. And this is happening again right now. Instead, the banks are going to have to buy the government bonds and they're gonna issue stablecoins instead of banknotes. And what are the stablecoins gonna be backed by? It's right in plain English in the Genius Act. They're gonna be backed by treasury, and they're gonna be backed by Federal Reserve notes. So Federal Reserve notes are not going away, and neither are the banks like everybody's saying.
[02:35:45] Unknown:
I didn't think so. I mean, because when I was going through like, I mean, I do realize that the constitution is still under emergency orders from, from Roosevelt in 1933. Yep. And then Abe Lincoln too as well. So,
[02:36:01] Unknown:
I mean and and I just didn't understand, like, with the XRP. I don't understand what backs it. And I'm I don't wanna track your sales. I don't want them to tell me what to do. Yeah. Well, here, XRP is supposed to be backed by gold, and XLM is supposed to be backed by silver. But here's the thing, it's not backed right now, so it's just the same thing as Fiat. However, there's a big difference. Our fiat currency, our Federal Reserve notes are backed by our labor. They're backed by our houses, our collateral, if you're a US federal citizen, if you're your your property, you're owned. However, if you're a national, that's not the case anymore.
However, that being said, my understanding is that FDR sold off all of our allodial title in our land. Paul can answer this better than I can, and that we don't have allodial title to our land. So if you look at the deed of your home, you're just a tenant. If you look at how you own your property, it'll say joint tenancy, tenant in common, you know, tenant by the entirety. Your the tenant is a renter. And so I Paul knows this Right. Mine said warranty deed. Well, yeah. General and warranty deed. It's the same yeah. But it's the same thing. These general deeds are warranty deeds who don't really own the allodial title, and a lot of us in the after show are trying to get out of paying, property taxes.
And we're try and a lot of people are also trying to get allodial title and, land patent, land patent as well. And that's difficult to do because of what FDR did, in in 1933.
[02:37:38] Unknown:
I'm having a heck of a time. Yeah. I'm having a hard time. I went to the title department here in town of Mendota, Illinois, because we're on a farm at and we paid off our house a long, long time ago. But Illinois's taxes quadrupled.
[02:37:54] Unknown:
It's crazy. But that's the first time. Is this is this Gigi? Is this Gigi?
[02:37:59] Unknown:
No. This is Mary. This is Mary.
[02:38:01] Unknown:
Oh, Mary. Yeah. So, Mary, that's the same that's the same, way almost nationwide. They're doing that on purpose. They're doing this on purpose, and there there's a YouTube video on ninoscorner.tv. You have to subscribe, but it's only $4.99 a month, with this guy who explains the mortgage fraud and how they're stacking mortgages and how they're buying up, how, these international bankers are buying properties for double and triple what the asking amount is, and that's driving up property taxes and all of that stuff. It's just one big fraud. Mortgages are one big fraud because no consideration was ever transferred at settlement. They monetize your promissory note after you signed it, and that makes your mortgage fraud null and void. So again, everything that they do, including student loans and everything, the banks never transfer any consideration. If you see a check from them at settlement, there's no funds behind it, which is called check kiting, which means that again, no consideration, fraud, no null and void, and we just haven't been able to find a way to cancel these mortgages.
[02:39:14] Unknown:
Right. I'm a member of, like, nino's nino'scorner.tv. I'll go through all his videos, and then I'm also I've been I I do the yearly one. I I've been following David for years.
[02:39:26] Unknown:
I'll have to go through that. So you could go recently. There was something there was something very interesting on, you know, Corner, with a guy who and you it's the title was something about mortgage mortgages or mortgage fraud, but you'll hear about, what these people like BlackRock have been doing, buying up properties. They basically go, to one neighborhood and buy 10 homes in a row, and let's say each one, for simplicity, is worth, is being listed for a 100,000, they'll pay 200 or 300 for that, row of homes, and then they'll go to another row of homes, right near that neighborhood of similar homes and do the same thing. And that changes the comparables, for the homes. And then they'll go to a third house, just one house, and they'll over they'll pay, you know, dollars 300,000 for that home because the comparable sales prices have changed now.
That's bumping up real estate, property prices, property taxes that people are paying, and it's also bumping up property prices. And so it's just one big fraud. And then they're selling these over and over and over again, which is called mortgage stacking. It's totally unlawful, and they're getting away with this. There's just lawlessness and there's just lawlessness and fraud everywhere. That's why, Roger will recommend all the time on this show, try to stay out of the court. When you have corrupt sheriffs, corrupt judges, corrupt laws, corrupt everything, you wanna stay out of court systems if if if you can avoid it.
[02:41:01] Unknown:
Mary, do you know Yes. Who owns your 160 acres under a land patent?
[02:41:14] Unknown:
Wouldn't that be Bill Gates?
[02:41:18] Unknown:
No. No. No. If you don't you live in Illinois? Okay. Well, go to Illinois. Illinois. Yeah. Go to Illinois on your computer if you buy your computer or do it on your phone. It don't matter. Do it on Google. It'll come up. Go to Illinois section range township map.
[02:41:38] Unknown:
Okay. And when it comes up I'm in LaSalle LaSalle County.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
It it doesn't matter. Because somebody somebody back in the day was issued, right there where you live, was issued a 160 acres of land under a land patent. And over there in Illinois, they're mainly military folk. But, anyway, if you'll go to that site that I've just read you, and then just, like, there's a little section down there, and it says, you could type in your address. Okay? And when you type in your address, a little blue balloon will pinpoint you right where you're at. Alright? And then up there in the left hand corner, you'll see that little blue balloon, and it's it it'll say Southeast Quarter or the Southwest Quarter or the Northeast Quarter or whatever.
And then down after you type in your address and and and place that little balloon on top of it. Alright? And then down below it, it'll give you a township, a section, and a range. It'll be 22 like, mine is 22 South, 27 East Section 20.
[02:42:57] Unknown:
That's mine. Mine looks at What's that site to go to? I'm gonna write it down. What's that site?
[02:43:03] Unknown:
Illinois Alright. Section township range map.
[02:43:17] Unknown:
So, Jerry, you're just telling her to Google that. Right?
[02:43:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Just Google it. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it right here on my phone. Illinois.
[02:43:26] Unknown:
I'm at I'm at the grocery store, so I that's why I had to write it down. Yeah. You're shopping. I need some parsnips. I don't need Well, I need my my garden is ready, so I gotta cook these vegetables so that I'm making beef vegetable soup to freeze for the, for the winter.
[02:43:47] Unknown:
Mary?
[02:43:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:43:50] Unknown:
May I call you later, please?
[02:43:53] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:43:54] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks, hon. Have a good day shopping. Everybody needs retail therapy with a weekend coming.
[02:44:01] Unknown:
Okay. I've got it up. Illinois section township range map. And it's at the top, it says randymajors.org. Click on that one. It's Illinois Section, township, range, and it'll come up. And then up there now, Julie, yours is different, but it's still under the same thing because you're, I I don't know, in Virginia or somewhere. But it's still the same thing. I'm in Virginia. Yeah. But it'll still come up. You you were because you were part of the first original colonies. Yep. But it's still under the same thing. Alright? I don't think so. Part of you. No. Thanks. A hard time looking up yours.
[02:44:58] Unknown:
Anyway, I'm just Okay. I'm on I'm on here. What do we do? I'm on here. I see the blue button. Hold hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Alright.
[02:45:06] Unknown:
I'll tear never get Go ahead.
[02:45:11] Unknown:
Let me get to I'm I'm on it now. Now it's turning red. Did yours turn red? Yep. All little red blocks.
[02:45:19] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:45:21] Unknown:
But you're in Virginia. Right? But, anyway alright. So now down there, it says search places. Type in your address. And, Mary, whatever yours I don't know what it is. Whatever it is. Did I type in a address in Virginia too here on here? Yes.
[02:45:52] Unknown:
Okay. I did it.
[02:45:54] Unknown:
Okay. Now that little blue balloon will pop up somewhere in them little red squares.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
I don't have any. I I it says Virginia does not use township range.
[02:46:08] Unknown:
Okay. I should not try to tell you.
[02:46:11] Unknown:
But now
[02:46:13] Unknown:
failure. Don't use that.
[02:46:15] Unknown:
I mean, Julie, now go as close as you can get to one of them red squares. Oh, Virginia. Yeah. That's right. But Virginia still operates under the same system to find your land patent.
[02:46:27] Unknown:
No. It does not. Virginia was issued
[02:46:30] Unknown:
issued land patents. Anyways, Mary, this is for you, Mary.
[02:46:35] Unknown:
It does not.
[02:46:38] Unknown:
Julie.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:40] Unknown:
Julie, the original 13 colonies issued their own lands. They were state issued lands. They did not come under the, public land survey system. That's only for the former territories, North Of The Ohio and West Of The Mississippi.
[02:46:58] Unknown:
Okay. Can you repeat that again, please? Can you repeat that again?
[02:47:03] Unknown:
Virginia issued their own land, not the federal government. It's not under the public land survey system. Neither is Georgia or South Carolina or North Carolina. All the original 13 states issued their own lands because they came directly from, the Treaty of Peace in 1783 from England.
[02:47:26] Unknown:
They were not Treaty of what? Treaty of what?
[02:47:30] Unknown:
Treaty of 1783. Treaty of peace. England gave the land directly to the states, and each state is listed independently. They did not go through the federal government like the federal land survey, Public Land Services.
[02:47:45] Unknown:
Well, that's good for me. Right?
[02:47:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Virginia. Rick Rick, wouldn't you wouldn't you agree that, Virginia and and many of the other states are already on. Those surveys were measured by payment information from liberty, and I paid it.
[02:48:07] Unknown:
Let Joe
[02:48:10] Unknown:
meets and bounds.
[02:48:13] Unknown:
That is correct. Promotion of Georgia did not get
[02:48:18] Unknown:
This is for Mary. This is for Mary only. The my other ones, I'm not worried about. Okay? This is for Mary only. Mary, this is how you do it. Alright? You type in your address up there in Illinois, and your address will come up, and it'll it'll take you to where your land who owns your 160 acres. This is for Mary only. Okay.
[02:48:40] Unknown:
Alright? Yeah. Because, I mean, I'm I'm gonna go check it out because I need to know because I'm I'm they I went to the it's called Specials Title Company, and they're just giving me the runaround. It cost me, like, $250 because Yeah. Yeah. I want my land. Okay.
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Okay. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm trying to help you. First, you gotta find your land pad. Thank you. Okay. First, find that land pad. And then your your warranty deed has you listed as a joint tenant, but your warranty deed is the you we consider it a title regardless. Whatever we consider that, oh, I paid my house off. I paid my land off. Here's my title under the warranty deed. No. It's just an equity interest that you have on the on the surface, on the buildings and what have you. It's just an equity interest. You don't own the land. That land that you're on was issued to somebody back when whenever it was. And you want me to find it for you? Give me your address, and I'll find it for you real quick.
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47 Alright. Hold on. 4747.
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1212.
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East East.
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Fifth Fifth, 5, Numeral, 5 T H, Road Okay.
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Mendota, M E N D O D A. Hold on. I I got it already. I got it. 4712 East Road, Mendota, Illinois, USA. Alright? It's it's now on Road. It doesn't matter. It's alright. Okay. I've got alright. So here, write down this one. If you're beside a pen Okay. There. Let me write I'm gonna write down to you. Alright. You're in you're in Section 20. I'm sorry. Section 26, Township 39 North, Range 8 West. That's where you're at. Okay.
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Mhmm.
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Oh, hold on.
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Let me exit out of this.
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Okay. So then I I need to I need to write it down because I'll I'll forget what it is. But, anyway, I'll ask your handyman. Okay. Alright. That's that's your that's from you're running out there? We need it too. Yeah. Okay. I got you right here in my sights. And I I just gave you your
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Yep. I got Section 26 Township 39 North Range 8 West.
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That's it. Alright. So now you you get out of that. Go back and then go to department of interior. Department
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of interior.
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Okay. And it'll it'll come up the United States Department of Interior. And down there, they have little blue things, and it says Bureau of Land Management. Click on that.
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Gill of Land Management?
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Bureau?
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Bureau. Oh, I'm sorry. Bureau. Yes.
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Okay. Land Management. Management. Get you the sale taken care of. Alright. Now up there in the, in the top right hand corner, there's three little lines. Yeah. There it is. And if somebody works Click on that. Yeah. And it'll come up a index. Click on services.
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Okay.
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Okay. Okay. And it says it it comes up a page and go down go down and it says land records. So
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yeah. Understand. Okay.
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Go down, and it says general land office Hey. It sounds like Bruce has got his phone unmuted. Sale a couple of Right under that first paragraph, there's a little blue thing that says GLO.
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Okay.
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Click on that. Did you click on it?
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Well, no. I'm writing all this down because I was in the store.
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Okay. That's fine. Okay. Now when you click on that, it'll come up. In the top left hand corner under that first paragraph, it'll say land patents Okay. In little small letters. Click on that, and it'll bring you to a page that has it it'll bring you to a page at the very top. It has state, county, name, first name, last name, middle name. Alright. But you just put Illinois. Okay? I'm gonna I'm doing it for you right here. Alright. And don't put nobody's name in it. Just put Illinois. And down there, where it like, the third box down, it says township.
Put the township. What was it? 26
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Yep. It's North? Township 39 North. Yep.
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39. Okay. Hold on. 39 North range. What's the range?
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8 West.
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8 West. And what's the what's the section?
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26.
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26. Okay. Just put that in, and then right underneath that, it says search patents, and just hit that button. It says search patents. Oh, no matching record. Hold on. Oh, it went I'm sorry. It went back to Alabama. I have to do it again. Illinois, 39 North. What was the range?
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8 West.
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8 West. And the section?
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26.
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26. Okay. And then on. It it's not coming up. I'm not getting no, I'm not getting any matches. And that that's how you do it. Okay? I wonder why. I might I might have wrote something wrong on the
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I wonder okay. Because the house sits on three acres. But part of my three acres goes into the cornfield. So the Kerns own the farm itself.
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That's the Kerns family. It says So they they Well,
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hold on. Hold on. It says that you're in Missouri.
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Oh, I'm in Mendota, Illinois. Was in the wreck.
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4712 East Fifth Road, Mendota, Illinois?
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Yep. 61342 is my ZIP code.
[02:56:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't even know that. I I when I typed you in, it came up.
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Well, does it come up you did the the numeral 5 T H. Don't spell out Fifth Road. It's a numeral.
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Okay. Yeah. But I did that. Weird.
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You should've listened.
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Julie. Martin Armstrong. See if that raises her.
[02:57:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Martin Armstrong. Did you say something?
[02:57:35] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I sent that, that statement about his 08/1863 reference to the banking act. Yep. Boris Boris answered back. Yeah. Because I'm a Telegram group. He goes, yeah. Too bad he didn't mention that they bought it all. They bought us us and the nation with the 1863 banking act. Yeah. There's individual SESTA key, but then there's a national SESTA key. And, that's kinda
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what we don't always all understand, you know. So Well, there's, two sets of kVs, a legacy trust. There's one in your individual name and one in your corporate name is my understanding.
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But the nation has a trust. The nation's in a trust.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
So Well, yeah. That's true. The government is that the government's in a trust, but your, CUSIC number, my understanding, has been merged with everybody else's so that you can't can't to to deceive us, which was basically unlawful on what they did.
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Right. The, because the Gettysburg address was basically a restatement across the it's a guy out of Spokane in the Northwest. It might have been in Oregon, but it's called Hartford Van Dyke. He actually just died out of this year, but he he actually has an article out there about the the statement of the Gettysburg, to address being a trust just like the Lord's prayers of trust in Psalm 23 is a trust. Pretty interesting. So when you look at the Gettysburg address, it's it's actually restating the declaration of independence trust. So, anyway, it's, there is national trust there. Just, like you said, it's a matter of, Well how how that how that affects, you know because everything
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should be, you know, the use of fraud should be handled by that trust. And Well, my understanding is that my understanding is that your Social Security agreement connects to the Federal Reserve account number, which is a letter with eight digits, which is found on the backside of your Social Security card. And your only true bank account is your legacy account, where you bank your lifetime labor with the United States Treasury. And they are the ones that hire the private Federal Reserve Bank to regulate your account spending. So all of these banks, so called banks are just basically transmitting or public utilities where you the depositor, use to pay your bills and your presentments, and your local banker is not even going to know what that is.
So, you know, the United States court system is run by the bar, the British accredited registry members, and it's all unlawful and so evil.
[03:00:40] Unknown:
Well, not really. It's just going to peace with them. You you you could reference everything back to the Social Security number. That's the banking number. So if you're, going to peace with them, you're agreeing and and appointing the interest the right way at the county level. I don't see how they can't, you know, can you can you send that in? I don't see how they can't can't recognize that because it's it would be under the law of nations and The Hague, which is bigger than than they are. So, at the at the assumptions or or the presumptions are operating with you right, they can kinda do whatever they're doing.
But I think once that once that is clarified, I don't know how they could they could, continue to to operate without, you know, fraud fraudulently within that trust. So but that's my take on it anyway.
[03:01:37] Unknown:
So, George, my understanding, though, is that you're supposed to be able to send a presentment in commerce, otherwise known as a bill, to your banker banker, which would be the United States Treasury, for example, the Internal Revenue Service and have them electronically settle the liability for you, which is, acceptance for value because you've already paid for everything, because the trustees are using and investing our future labor deposited funds into the world economy. But, they're not recognizing that. That's why I say it's lawless. They're not they're not they're supposed to, but they're not. They're just disregarding everything, just like the fourteenth Amendment was never properly ratified.
They're still running it as though it were. Like, the sixteenth amendment never ratified, and they're still running it as if it were. Just utter lawlessness.
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Well, the congressional code of 1967 already says that the fourteenth amendment is unconstitutional, that not yet congress. Anyway, Mary, alright. I got you now. You're in you're in LaSalle County.
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Correct. I'm in LaSalle County.
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Yeah. How did I find that out? 1234567. So you've got seven possible hits. All of them in LaSalle County. All that land was issued from 1854 or 1848 up until nineteen o six. Wow. And all all of them are in you're you're in a Section 1, Township 36 North Range 1 East. And you got like I said, you got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven possible hits. And all of them are military, looks like, except one. The very first one, Cyrus out. And I'm gonna go to that one, and that's 1854.
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1854?
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Yeah. And his his name is Cyrus. What range is that? Hold on a minute. Let me let me finish this. Alright. So this gentleman, for a 159.56 acres, paid cash out of his pocket in in 1854. That's how this gentleman, Cyrus Aldridge, Paid all pages. That that may not be your guy because, like I said, you got seven or eight hits, seven land patent titles. Alright. Now I'm pulling up I just pulled up his, land patent, a title. It's what's called an title under the land patent issued to this gentleman from The United States Of America for as this Cyrus Aldridge of Lee County, Illinois was issued this hundred and fifty nine point, I can't read it, but acres.
And he wasn't issued. He bought it out of his pocket.
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And it's signed Well, Lee County, I'm just a half a mile from Lee County.
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Mhmm. Literally half a mile from Lee County. Yeah. Yeah. The county where he got this land alright. Alright. So you have another fellow here, William Hall, in in 1848, was issued 40 acres. He was in a he was, under a captain Hunt's company in the third regiment in Louisiana volunteers. So he was a military guy, and they issued him under a warrant, 40 acres for doing his service in the military in 1848. That's the second guy. The third guy Okay. He was a private in the United States Marine in 1850 with under the script warrant was issued a 160 acres, and he was under the direction of a some captain, Obed w Bryant.
That's just the third land patent. Here's the fourth land patent. Another military guy was issued a 159 acres. He was a private in The United States. That's all it says. In in 1851, he was issued a 159.56 acres. The next guy, another military man, was also issued a 159.6 acres, but it doesn't say what he was, what kind what he did. They might've issued it to his widowed wife. Let's look at that one. See. I'm gonna look up his land patent right now. Okay. Here it comes. It said Martin Ingris, father, heir at law of John Ingris. He's an heirs, so they issued it to one of his heirs.
So, apparently, he got killed in whatever war he was in. And then to his kids, they issued it They issued this 159.56 acres to one of his heirs. Alright. The the next one. Oh, that was the same one. I'm sorry. John White. John what? White. Like white White. Alright. So this guy was in captain, Casewell's company of the first regiment in Tennessee, Calvary in 1849.
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Let me call you. They issued him
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they issued him a 159.3 acres of land. Alright. So the at the very top of these documents, it says the date of issue, where it was issued to in Illinois, and then those other documents say what county. Alright? But if you scroll, have these documents since 1849 ever been canceled to 2025? And it'll tell you right there, no. This is official US government document that has never been canceled since 1849. A 159.3 acres. And then if we look at the land patent itself, It says issued to this gentleman let me see. John White, private and captain Casewell's military first regiment Tennessee volunteers to whoever to whoever gives a hoot. I don't I don't really give a hoot.
That this land was issued to this gentleman, and then if you go down there to have and to hold with everything on this section of land with everything on it, water, gold, silver, copper, trucks, weeds, trees, I don't care what it is, And to his heirs and assigns forever since 1849. Well well, I'm standing right here in Carlsbad, New Mexico under a pecan tree has forever ended. No. Now you're an assignee under this gentleman's not maybe not this one, but one of the mother, seven. Okay? You can pinpoint right where you're at. Now you have a warranty deed, and you think that's your title. That's why you go to a title company and you say, hey. Can you look up how far back these titles or who owned this property before I did and blah blah blah blah blah. Right?
And they'll say, oh, I can't do that. Okay. But they even if you do find a title company that'll search back the title company, there's a break in there that they won't go back all the way to the land patent because, like, I think it was Julie was saying, they confiscated The United States confiscated all these patents that were originally issued to all these gentlemen, not just them, all through the nation, even when the even when the America was a a territory. Okay? They were issued to women. They were issued to whoever. They were issued to widows of military folk.
But they were issued to them, and that became their title. Alright? We come along and we buy this property. Oh, hey. Hey. It's a for sale sign in front of real estate. Okay. A real estate company is selling this property. But what they don't tell you is they're only selling the buildings in the house that are on top of it. They can't sell you the land because the land was already issued under the 1862 Land Act of 1862 that disposed the land through the constitution of The United States Of America to all the people in the territory, in American territory, all the way back to 1849.
Alright? America was already America in 1776, but in 1849, these all they after the after get people to come and fight the Indian War, the Mexican War, the Revolutionary War, the whatever war. They issued people that died in in service. So they've issued the land patent to their heirs, to their widows, to their kids, whatever. And it says to their heirs this one says to his heirs and assigns forever. I come along and buy this real estate property. I pay cash for it. Right? And they give me what's called a warranty deed, and I think, oh, it's the title. My wife said, oh, look. I got the title right here. I didn't know. Low and behold, it's not the title.
That makes me a joint tenant. What's a tenant? A tenant is a renter, in fact. Alright? So it says I'm a joint tenant. Well, my wife is my wife. She's not my tenant. I don't charge her rent to live somewhere. This so if I'm a tenant, I have to pay a landlord because I'm a tenant of this real estate. Who's that landlord that I'm paying if I had the title in my hand? The county, the city, municipality, the government. I'm a joint tenant with the government. That's why under the imminent domain, they can come and steal your property unless you bring your land patent title, a load deal title, free and clear of anything, taxes, whatever, up as an assignee of that land patent to you.
My land patent is number 570. Alright? I live in Carlsbad, New Mexico. My the front the street right in front of my front door across the street is. A block over one one block over is Joshua Street. Alright. So that Joshua Street is about a quarter of a mile long, and it dead ends. Geikindall is about a quarter of a mile long, and it dead ends. Well, low and behold, I start looking up who owns my 160 acres of land. It's not mine. I I only own a a acre and a quarter of it because that's what I got my name on, an acre and a quarter of now my land patent was issued to this gentleman in nineteen o four.
Alright? New Mexico didn't become a state until 1912, so it was still it was New Mexico territory when they issued this man, and he paid cash out of his pocket. Others are homestead or or script warrant military or or, there's there's, like, 11 or 12 of them. But, anyway, I'm just saying. Alright. So lo and behold, I start looking up who owns my land, my acre and a quarter. And on that land patent is his name is Joshua. That's a block away over there is his first name, Joshua Street. Right in front of my door is his last name, Okay?
So I said, what he owns and, he bought he paid cash out of his pocket for a 160 acres right here to to have and to hold in nineteen o four. So what I did is I brought that land patent. I'm an assignee now on that land patent. But that land patent is not in my name. It's in his name And to his heirs. Now if any one of his heirs ever got wind of all these people, there's the fraud. That's that's where the fraud comes in. I bought this property under fraudulent pretenses on a contract, which which article one section 10 plus one states that no state shall obligate the, ability of a contract or that's in the constitution of The United States Of America.
Article one, section 10, clause one. No state. But as a citizen and a resident of The United States, I don't live here. Now I do because I've I've done my affidavit and all that baloney. Right? But if I had not done that, they can come over here and steal anything, anything they want to because none of it belongs to me because I don't have the original title, Because I don't have the land patent title. Because I don't have the the original title to my cars or my trucks or my motorcycles. Who who has them? The government. That's why I have to put a a license plate. The license plate doesn't belong to me. That number is registered registered to me.
Now if I had the original title, land patent title, in my name recorded, a warranty deed is registered down there at the county. That's why they're, that's why they can come and tax tax you to debt. Take and that's why they can come and take your property because it doesn't belong to you. It belongs to them through fraud. But you gotta bring that land patent, that one one of those guys is yours, whether it's this John
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White,
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or any one of them. And I know I sound like a lunatic, but the 12 presumptions of court number seven say I'm a pauper and a lunatic. Sorry about that. I was rambling. I hope I didn't run every one of y'all off.
[03:20:04] Unknown:
No, Jerry. You're gonna ramble in and run me off. Is this Bruce?
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I couldn't unmute the darn phone.
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Is this Bruce that was talking?
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That's that was Jerry talking, and this is Dave. Oh, okay.
[03:20:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know how, that's interesting about land patents. I don't know
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if they
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if the land patent goes back, but then they bought everything in 1863, including all the work that we'll do as well as all of the land. I don't know how you cure that just with a land patent. Don't don't know. Don't know about that yet.
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Well, you gotta go back all the way to when when they started doing it because the king in England, he was the one that issued the land to his serfs. The land patent becomes the highest evidence of title, and it can't be the government cannot collateralize it, attack it?
[03:21:18] Unknown:
Comment. Comment. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, But until you prove that title up, all you have is this piece of paper. Exactly. That you have to prove it up and make sure you have to go all the way back to the patent and bring check every entry to make every mortgage or assignment or whatever has been satisfied and places no cloud on the time.
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Exactly.
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And I and and I contend I contend if you can do that, you file a quiet title action on that piece of property in the district court. And you don't make any big issue of it. You just now I've not done this. I'm prepared to do it when I get some time. But, once you get that accomplished, you file the quiet title action and get the stamp of the district court to say that there are no encumbrances of any kind on this piece of property. And with that, then you then the county has no claim. But you don't That's what I did. What you don't waive that in their face. Right. No. I'm not waving it. That that no. I'm not saying you are, but, for those that are listening, it's just one of those things that you do very subdued and, but that'll work. I guarantee.
Yeah. I guarantee. I promise you it'll work.
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That's that's what I did.
[03:23:03] Unknown:
Alright. So now here's here's one for you. I'm gonna Have you have you have you have just a minute. Like with the Wait. Have you done the quiet title action?
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Yes.
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You did a quiet title action in district court?
[03:23:17] Unknown:
In district court. Yeah. Actually, it's probate court, not district.
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And you have paperwork to show that?
[03:23:27] Unknown:
I got all the paperwork. I got everything. I would love
[03:23:30] Unknown:
to see that. I would love to see that.
[03:23:34] Unknown:
I got a stamp. I got the, probate court stamp. But anyway Good. Good for you. Let me let me read this to you. Property tax, unconstitutional. Land untaxable by the state. The original the original constitution of any state provided that the lands of any state are untaxable. Article two section two reads as follows. Section two, the propositions contained in the act of congress are hereby assessed, ratified, and confirmed, and shall remain irrevocable without the consent of The United States. And it is hereby ordained that this state shall never interfere with the primary disposal of the soil within the same by The United States nor with any regulations Congress may find necessary for securing the title in such soil to bonafide purchasers purchasers owe thereof, and no tax shall be imposed on land.
Sergeant versus Herrick b Stevens Ann Stevens, Northern Pacific Railroad Company versus Truett County, Town Of Saint John versus State Board of Tax Commissioners, 19 that's a newer one, 1996. So here, these court cases are saying that property taxes are unconstitutional. But yet, we hit the the tax assesses come knocking on the door. Hey. You didn't pay your taxes this year. My neighbor just got up. They haven't paid their taxes in, like, four or five years, and they just got my next door neighbor is about, 50 yards away over there.
That tax person came I got the pictures on my phone for they came driving up and looking for the address, and then they stopped right in front of her house. And they handed her a paper and then walked off. I said, you didn't ask them any questions? No. They said we owe taxes and oh, yeah. Well,
[03:25:50] Unknown:
I guess. I don't know. So, Jerry, are you is it Jerry, are you not paying property taxes anymore? No. How do how can we see your paperwork?
[03:26:08] Unknown:
I could, I don't know. I I don't have a computer. That's my bad. I'm on my phone.
[03:26:14] Unknown:
Can you text the paperwork to me?
[03:26:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I can text I can I can text some some of it to you?
[03:26:21] Unknown:
So I'll give you my cell so you can text it to me.
[03:26:25] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on. And I I did this all this stuff myself, not without no lawyer or attorney or hold on.
[03:26:45] Unknown:
And you're in California and you pay no taxes, Jerry? I'm I'm I'm in New Mexico. Carlsbad, New Mexico. Oh, wow.
[03:26:54] Unknown:
Jerry, and I agree with you on you doing that yourself because lawyers and title companies make mistakes. Yep. And therefore therefore, it behooves you to prove this title up yourself and to understand that it's good exercise mentally and, save you a lot of money too.
[03:27:17] Unknown:
Is this Bruce speaking?
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Joe in Oklahoma.
[03:27:22] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Joe. Yeah. I gotta I gotta email you.
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If you, if you get that, if Jerry doesn't mind, I'd like to see that. Could you send that to me? I have your I have your email.
[03:27:34] Unknown:
What I can do is I can he texts it to me. I can put it in a PDF document and email it to you, Joe. If he doesn't mind, I'd appreciate it. So, I don't mind. So, Jerry, let me give you can you text me your figure out this. Yeah. So, Jerry, if you don't have a computer, how did you do all this stuff then? Did you just do it by hand on paper?
[03:27:55] Unknown:
On paper. I went to the library and typed it all myself at the library. Wow. And I and I all I have is a third grade education, and it took me hours now. But it didn't really take me that long, you know, once I got started. That's the way I put my title up. I had I don't have the
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patents on it yet, but, that's the way I did mine. Go to the long library or the county recorder and sit down and start studying.
[03:28:26] Unknown:
Yeah. But I think, Joe, I think mine.
[03:28:29] Unknown:
Joe, I think mine's gonna be different because weren't you the one telling me earlier that, because I'm was I'm in Virginia, and I'm one of the original, you know, colonies that my process will be different?
[03:28:42] Unknown:
Process won't be different. It's your the the way your property is described originally was surveyed by meets and bounds. Okay. In other words, you go 500 feet from this rock and then a thousand feet to that tree, yada dada.
[03:29:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm an I understand that. I'm a real estate broker and my, all the deeds that I've had on my properties over the years have been, two by meets and bounds as well as by the actual
[03:29:24] Unknown:
original document transferring that land to an individual, be it from the crown or the federal government.
[03:29:37] Unknown:
Okay. The first the first the first land patent issued was over there, you know, in Maryland somewhere. And it was in '8, 1789, I think. The first original, and it was issued to, an official of the government. I forgot what his name was. In 1789.
[03:30:00] Unknown:
Okay. So, Jerry, are you ready for my cell phone? Yes. It's (202) 579-9966.
[03:30:17] Unknown:
Okay.
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You got it?
[03:30:20] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:30:20] Unknown:
Yeah. If you could check I really wanna do this. I mean, literally, we should be teaching everybody how to get out of property tax taxes because the way this other guy is teaching people is to put your house in a trust and then, pay your taxes for one year and then don't record it at the county because when you record, any sale or any transfer or any deed at the county, then you're basically volunteering to pay excise taxes, and that's what property taxes are disguised as excise taxes. But if there's a better way to get out of this, like you have, I'd rather do it your way.
[03:30:57] Unknown:
Right. Well, you know, what I what I did is I, basically put Ron Gibson, god rest his soul on. I'm just saying.
[03:31:07] Unknown:
But over and over those You're breaking up, Gary. You're breaking up.
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I apologize. God rest whose soul? Ron Gibson. You know, he passed away.
[03:31:19] Unknown:
Who?
[03:31:20] Unknown:
Ron Gibson. Ron.
[03:31:22] Unknown:
Oh, Gibson. Okay. Alright. I did all that through him. Not not through him, but
[03:31:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Anybody that wants to be interested in land patents should get his book.
[03:31:42] Unknown:
What's it called?
[03:31:44] Unknown:
What you need to know about land patents.
[03:31:47] Unknown:
Okay. I didn't know that. It I'll get it on Amazon.
[03:31:50] Unknown:
And you're not a slave. Well, you have to order them from him. They're not on Amazon. And you can still order them from him.
[03:31:59] Unknown:
Where do I get it, Jerry?
[03:32:01] Unknown:
Hold on. I'll get it. I'll get the information for you.
[03:32:05] Unknown:
Jerry, you mind if if Julie sends that to me as well?
[03:32:09] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I don't mind. Send it to everybody. Send it to the world.
[03:32:12] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll get everything into a PDF document and send it to all you guys.
[03:32:16] Unknown:
This is Dave and the thumb. Hi, Dave. It's called hi, Julie.
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What you need to know about land patents, and you're not a slave. And I think his son has taken over the
[03:32:33] Unknown:
That's the other book. He's got another book, Jerry, called what you need to know about land.
[03:32:40] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's what I just read. The the What you need to know is land patents, and you're not a slave.
[03:32:48] Unknown:
The problem I have is Ron Gibson. You have
[03:32:52] Unknown:
to do your own due diligence. You have to be your own man. I'm not I'm just Ron Gibson. I read and read and read and read and red. And I don't I don't need Ron Gibson to come defend me from these tyrannical evil people.
[03:33:14] Unknown:
The problem I deal. The problem I have with Ron Gibson is him telling you for your public notice, about quieting the title of going to the water treatment plant or the laundromat or these inconspicuous places. And the only way you can let put out a legal notice is in the paper of record for the county you live in.
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Right.
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It has to be. And, you know, that's I talked to him, paid him some pretty good money for an hour's conversation with him, and I agree with him for the most part. But that going to the water treatment plant really did.
[03:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I disagree with that, but you gotta understand too that Von Gibson was also an a lawyer and an attorney, and he was what basically, what he just taught me was that I need to stand up for for my land. My land. Not nobody. Not my neighbors. Even though it's on the same 160 acres as it as it neighbor. That neighbor alright. You wanna pay your taxes? You know, go ahead. Do, you know, do what you want to do. Me? I'd I'm I'm tired of them scamming, ripping us off, telling us, oh, you're my slave. You have to. Or we're not or we're not gonna do this. Okay. Well, don't do it. Get off get off my property. Or the city coming over here and telling me that this this 12 inch weed right here, because it's a 12 inch weed that I'm standing right over, that's against the city ordinance.
Oh, what what what ordinances got to do? Oh, you gotta respect your neighbors. I respect my neighbors. I've I've been living here for for almost forty years out here in the same spot. I never had no issues with any of my neighbors. Who, so I think Ron's
[03:35:25] Unknown:
I think Ron's biggest Achilles' heel was the the fact that he didn't really have written into this book the, this state's status of the person. I think that was the main thing that, keep popping up later in life and, he applied it somewhat. But, I think that's that's the key to own own land. We you can't be a feudal slave.
[03:35:58] Unknown:
Well, I don't I don't I don't know about the key to being them. But, like, these are like, the government has already labeled every one of us as their property. And in all their paperwork, all their fraudulent paperwork, property cannot own property. And that's that's the Jerry?
[03:36:26] Unknown:
Hello? Can you hear me? Hello? Yes. Yeah. I just found, the whole entire 359 pages, what you need to know about land patents by, Ron Gibson.
[03:36:41] Unknown:
Okay. Now now see if you can download the other one.
[03:36:46] Unknown:
What's the other one again?
[03:36:48] Unknown:
You are not a slave.
[03:36:50] Unknown:
Okay. Let me see. Let me first, email this to me. Hold on here. So I have it.
[03:36:59] Unknown:
This is just a reference. It's not it's not a how do I say?
[03:37:06] Unknown:
So you learned everything from Ron Gibson.
[03:37:09] Unknown:
No. Not just Ron. I mean, not just Ron. I mean, I I learned a lot of stuff when I started digging. When I started digging into all this, and I didn't even I didn't even know who Ron or or Roger or any anyone was. Even you guys, I didn't know. But I started listening and paying attention and doing my research and reading and reading and reading and I said, how does this work? How does this work? And then I come to find out the more reading I did I was born in Texas. Right? I live in Carlsbad, New Mexico, Eddy County. Right? So the more I started digging and digging, and then I came across this, and then I came across that, and then finally, I came across I just I came across one of gifts not that long ago.
Maybe in 2022 maybe. Anyway,
[03:38:05] Unknown:
so I thought I'm trying to find, You Are Not a Slave. I'm sorry to interrupt you. So it's it's called You Are Not a Slave. Is that by Ron Gibson too?
[03:38:13] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:38:14] Unknown:
I don't I think it's a different title.
[03:38:20] Unknown:
No. It's You Are Not A Slave by Ron Gibson. It is? Okay. Hold on here.
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I don't know if I can find that one.
[03:38:36] Unknown:
He he he brings it up on a anyway, Ron Gibson's got some good, and then I'm I'm I'm just saying. I I go by Ron Gibson, and I and I over and over and over until I learn me, like Roger says, you need to go over this information. I listen to Roger over and over and over. Even though some of it is redundant and it go he goes over the same stuff over and over, it helps me to stand firm. The Bible tells us to stand firm in your convictions. It doesn't mean it doesn't say stand firm behind Ron Gibson. Stand firm behind Roger Sales. Stand firm behind Paul Beener. Stand firm. No. Help each other to stand firm in your convictions.
[03:39:27] Unknown:
So, what was I gonna say? He's got a bunch of YouTube videos, where you are not a slave, and it's got land patents number part one, land patents part two. It's but I don't, let me see here. Here it says, Ron Gibson official web page for land patents. Let me see if this is it. Click for Ron's land patent books. I got the book, but I don't see the one about, you are not a slave.
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I can't find the, the Does Jerry have his contact number? I've got his book here, but I don't see any contact information in it.
[03:40:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Let me see.
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Get it directly from his son, I guess.
[03:40:31] Unknown:
I can't find the you are not a slave, Samuel.
[03:40:35] Unknown:
Yeah.
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Can you find it?
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I
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have No. If you if you can't find it, I'm not gonna find
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it. I've got a phone. You got a computer. Yeah. All of these what's wonderful about Ron's stuff is it gives you this rich history we have in these types of documents like land patents. And, I sort of go with attack also that the book of the hundreds is is that the elodium, that has never been a man made law, really. It's really biblical, and it cannot be really transferred for money. It has to be inherited to our true elodium. Like, the king would give his prince land. That that's an elodium. Right? And for us here in The States, that's a difficult thing to say that we can do. Right? That's gonna be unusual. But the book of the 100 says as a Christian, you can take that through Jesus
[03:41:45] Unknown:
Christ. Yes. As his as his children of gee as the children of God.
[03:41:51] Unknown:
Exactly. And they cite Psalms twenty four one. The ears of the Lord's and all. That's that's it. And, that's the true holder of all title.
[03:42:06] Unknown:
So Ron gets his phone number. +1 (541) 621-5548. And he I I think he's got more numbers than that, but I'm not this is the one I have. This is the one I used to talk to him on. And I never I never paid him one red penny besides buying those books from him.
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Wow.
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There's a lot in the book. Book. I've only got the one, but,
[03:42:45] Unknown:
I don't have the Slayer's one. I have I have that I have that one, but I I I put it somewhere, and I think finally been looking for it for I have that somewhere. I'm gonna look for it. But, anyways, yes.
[03:43:08] Unknown:
The other guy that that was doing a lot of this back in the day too, I think Eric has also passed, but Eric Madsen, team law was always, talking about the land patents. And, one thing about Eric, very intelligent man. And, he I used part of his quitclaim deed in my current quitclaim, that format, because I didn't wanna get into this any of this, color of title verbiage that is on standard quitclaims.
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Right.
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And it one of the main things is he he, he put on description of what land is on that quick claim, which is from a specific person who was so revered in the business, he's quoted at Black's Law under the same thing of of what land is.
[03:44:19] Unknown:
Okay. So I started in in my diggings. I I just took pictures on my phone as a matter of fact. Once a land patent is issued, it stands as the highest evidence of legal title. A patent to land is the judgment of the land department and the conveyance of the title in execution of it to the party, a judge entitled. When the land described was in the jurisdiction and subject to the disposition of the land department, it is impervious to collateral attack. Court case, NEF v United States one six five f two seven three two seven seven nine one c c a two four one. A patent is recognized as the highest evidence of title, conclusive against the government and all claiming under junior title patents or treaties until it is set aside or annulled by some judicial tribunal, United States v Millen Mullen.
Then f, seven eight five seven nine two, Behner versus Stanley. 13 f two seventeen two twenty three.
[03:45:55] Unknown:
So, Jerry? Hello? Hey, Jerry. So you don't pay property taxes. And so does that mean you're not entitled to the benefits of the fire services of the, fire department and stuff?
[03:46:08] Unknown:
Right. Right. And whether being entitled or not, I own Allodium. My land.
[03:46:27] Unknown:
So land there are land patents or above Allodium title?
[03:46:32] Unknown:
Yes. Land patents are Allodium In elodium. Yes.
[03:46:38] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:46:39] Unknown:
I think they're separate. I think one is superior to the other.
[03:46:44] Unknown:
I thought elodial is superior to, land patents, Samuel.
[03:46:51] Unknown:
I I'd like to call you.
[03:47:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Out out here in California, you when you get a piece of property in the unincorporated areas, it get the definition of the land comes with meets and bounds. And you take those meets and bounds and you send it to the BLM here in Sacramento, and they will give you a printout of what land patent it came under. And you sit in that land patent somewhere, and usually should get a certified plot map of that as well. And that's where you start your land patent process out here.
[03:47:45] Unknown:
Okay. That one.
[03:47:48] Unknown:
That's different in the Eastern States. Probably the other side of the Mississippi, I would say for sure. Okay. What I'm reading here I'm sorry. The original colonies, and that's not a lot. Gibson doesn't really get into that a lot, the East Coast. So he mentions it. But
[03:48:07] Unknown:
So, Jerry, I don't understand what this means. It says on here that an elodial title represents absolute absolute and unencumbered ownership of land, free from any external claims or burdens, whereas a land patent is a legal document issued by the government that conveys title to a specific piece of land to an individual or entity establishing clear and unambiguous ownership rights. While both allodial titles and land patents represent forms of land ownership, an allodial title signifies absolute and unencumbered ownership, whereas a land patent represents the official conveyance of land ownership from the government to a private party establishing a recognized title to the land. A land patent is the highest evidence of title and it's and establishes an allodial freehold that is judgment proof and even immune from tax liens. Wow. That's what you're saying. Right?
[03:49:07] Unknown:
That's what I'm saying.
[03:49:08] Unknown:
Oh, wow. That's incredible. Wow.
[03:49:15] Unknown:
And then if you go to the Constitution of The United States Of America, I think it's a article three Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I gotta write this down. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
[03:49:27] Unknown:
Okay. Go ahead. I gotta go to article three.
[03:49:30] Unknown:
Well, hold on. Maybe article four. Article four section three clause two.
[03:49:41] Unknown:
Article four section three. What?
[03:49:45] Unknown:
Clause two. Okay. Four three two. Yeah. Article four section three clause two. Four three two.
[03:50:03] Unknown:
Thank you.
[03:50:06] Unknown:
And that article talks about where the lands are to be disposed to the public, which falls into all that that you just read to me.
[03:50:19] Unknown:
Okay. That's interesting. Thank you so much. I didn't do anything. You're gonna text me all that stuff. Right? Right. Thank you.
[03:50:32] Unknown:
It it'll take me maybe a couple days to get it all together, but I'll I'll text you what I can. I'm pretty busy right now talking to you guys. Thank you, Jerry. I didn't do anything. A lot of right. We'll get this out to everybody because everybody needs to be own kings and queens of their own land, which we are not right now. Yep. I agree. I've tried to tell my show my neighbors, and none of them you know, like Roger says, it's easier to be a serf to ask for all the freebies and the goodies and the and the rebate check that, president Trump's fixing to send y'all than than to be your own men and women, including including me.
But you have to be you can't be a citizen or a resident. You have to be a free man, woman, child, blah blah blah. You have to be. And if we're God's children, we're free. But as US citizen and US residents, we're slaves that live on the plantation, and we had to pay the slave master what's due. And Christ says, do not, but we still do it. Because why? Because we're afraid. We fear that which we do not know. And ignorance of any law, especially the law of God, is against God.
[03:52:18] Unknown:
These are the definitions in Ron Gibson's book. At the back, there's a glossary at laudable. Three, not holding to any lord or superior owned without obligation of vassalage or fealty, the opposite of feudal, land patent, an instrument conveying a grant of public land also, the land also conveyed. Now granted, a lot of people I read say that all the land in this country is the lodial, but I think you definitely need to make your claim now. There's no way to show pure inheritance. So how are you gonna do that unless you take the, what the book of the hundreds did is to claim Jesus Christ as the one you're getting the inheritance from as a Christian.
[03:53:12] Unknown:
And this, and that's what all, that's what long it says.
[03:53:16] Unknown:
And you got to make that claim. You, you, you've got to, I think, use the term allodial. And there is no such thing as a, allodial, what do people say? They use the term all the time. There is no such term. I can't think of it right now. It's a allodial or a allodial right. Yeah. Title. Title puts it back into into man jargon, and there is no such thing. You wanna stick with the term allodial or a allodial right.
[03:53:53] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[03:53:55] Unknown:
No problem. You guys, I hate to, put the kibosh on this conversation, but in seven minutes, Paul English live is gonna be on this channel. It's gonna be in this room. I'm gonna be in the same conference. The what?
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Don't be a hater, Paul.
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I'm not being a hater. I'm getting your heart. I'm not getting your heart. I'm not being a hater. I'm just taking down the radio list so we can switch gears. I'll listen to Paul English. Oh, okay. Well, that's what I'm gonna be doing. I'm gonna be resetting the room and, gonna be, Seven minutes. Connecting us to yeah. It's in about seven minutes. So I gotta get busy. I gotta get my act in gear. So, hold on to your socks, guys. Here it comes. Thank you for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Press 6 to mute or unmute. And if your line is locked, dial 941 to raise your hand.
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Alrighty. Let's do we're gonna try again here on the Thursday edition, July 31, last day of the month. Pretty important day in several respects. Roger Sales, your host here at the Radio Ranch. Good morning on the Thursday edition. Usually a little bit kind of a different day for whatever reasons. So, mister Paul, could you come out and identify the folks that are helping us today, so we can give them recognition and a credit if there is any? Couple,
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anyway. Yes.
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Yes.
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We're actually on three platforms. We are on, radiosoapbox.com, thanks to Paul across the pond, who, has his own show, Paul English, live this afternoon, 3PM Eastern, right here on Global Voice Network and also on, radiosoapbox.com. I think he's also on Euro Folk Radio too. I'm not sure. We are on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. And, as mentioned before, we're on Global Voice Network. The links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs,d0cs,.com, as well as the links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Yeah. That's pretty much all I've got. Alright. What about the good news.
Okay. I have good news to share.
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I wish you some of that.
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Well, my cat woke me up at 03:00 in the morning. She wanted she wanted to scratch. She said, I think she was getting bitten by bugs or something like that. And when I got up, I, noticed, that, Alexa refused to tell me what time it was, which led me to believe that, my network was down. It absolutely was. So I got up at three, used a little boys' room, and then I immediately came out here and started reconfiguring everything. But I think I got it now, and I think everything's working beautifully. So, hopefully, there will not ever, ever, ever be a hiccup like that again. You
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you have Alexa?
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Yeah. I have a couple of them. I know. I'm and I know people people fault me for it. They say, you know, they're listening to every word you're saying. Well, hello. They're listening to every word you're saying anyway. The smart TVs actually have the capacity to actually record images of the people that are in front of them just by reversing the bias on the LEDs. Your smartphones are monitoring you. They're listening to you all the time. Whether or not you think they are or want them to, they are. Your emails are monitored. Your text messages are monitored. They are monitoring every damn thing you are saying, thinking, and doing throughout your life.
And just I mean, I use it for what what it's intended for. It gives me the it gives me the reminders of things that I absolutely need to address. It keeps an eye on my bank account. It does all kinds of stuff. I'm getting some value. I know I'm being spied on. So what the hell? If Bezos is spying on me too, god love him.
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Whatever. I was just I was curious because a while back, WhatsApp came up, and you said you wouldn't load WhatsApp because it asked to give permission to, see your phone list. All they're trying to do there is just see the other people that have WhatsApp and connect you with them. So, I just thought that was a little discrepancy, and you have Alexa and they well, they can hear you fart and stuff. So,
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you know Well whatever that's worth. The difference is just trust Amazon. The difference is I trust Amazon more than I trust FakeBook.
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Okay. Yeah. Okay. Whatever. I wouldn't have one of those things, for hell or high water. Yeah. But, anyway, so here we go on the, usually quiet, somewhat subdued thirsty edition, I guess. It's this this. All the stuff that's come out is gonna come out pretty much on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and then, Thursday, and then we got Brent on Friday. Does anybody know out there what the Federal Reserve Open Market Committee did yesterday, FOMC?
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Mm-mm. I don't.
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They must have just left everything the same, probably. Alrighty. So we don't know that. Harrison was wailing. Roger, they left at the same Okay. That's what I figured. Thank you, Dave. Quick quick comment. You're welcome. Yep. A quick comment. Somebody is that you, Joe? Yeah. Yeah. It's Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Mark sent me a
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video yesterday off of, Infowars. And they're talking about how they are using Trump is gonna sign an executive order letting the private banking system leverage the four your four zero one k's to cover the losses in a nutshell. That is entirely good.
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Well, I if you were sucker biggest sucker enough to get into one of those things years ago, that, will possibly affect you. Okay. So using your four zero one case, well, hell, they've gone in, Joe. To my understanding, maybe not totally, but they've gone into all these pension funds and traded out the cash that was accumulating for, rotten treasury bonds because nobody wants them. And, so that may affect you in that respect. So we're getting red there. We're not too far away from some kind of big financial event. To me, some of the the Harbingers are out there. It's like, the, Dumhitche was on, but the guy that works with Alex, was on with him talking about some of these harbingers, you know, little things that you wouldn't organize, but, they're setting up things in the background that will benefit them in the situation of a crash.
So if, if anybody in this audience still has well, it's probably get maybe too late already. You know? I don't know how close this event is, but it ain't far off. No way to tell, of course. But you can take those four zero one k's and with certain companies, cash it in and get gold and silver in replacement of, bonds or cash or whatever's in there. It would be a very wise move, at least to start checking on it if you haven't done that already. Right. I remember years ago, I was going off with my, my cousin. We were at home. I'll get you a second, Julie. We were going off on a a fishing deal, me and him, in the morning early and, driving a little ways out to get to the fishing place. And, we were talking. He said something he worked at the paper mill there in Panama City and something about his retirement. I said they're gonna steal it from you.
And, I guarantee you, they will. If he lives long enough, they'll steal it. Yes, Julie? Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. I was just gonna tell you if you wanna take your IRA or four zero one k and convert it to gold or silver, You cannot take physical possession of the gold and silver without taking a penalty. So it ends up in a vault,
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and that is subject to being seized and also sold multiple times over. Okay. Well, you can get at least get in there and get it out of paper and get it into gold. You can take all those options on your own. I'd pay any kind of penalty to get it in my possession, quite frankly. Although there may be some legitimate one legitimate ones. We'll see. Anyway, there's something bad. There are bad storm clouds on the horizon everywhere. And it's gotten really started. You know, what's really and we talked about it. What really has started it and is accelerating it is the fact that Japan has had to raise their interest rate four points.
And now people can't go borrow at zero and invest it from three to 5% somewhere. And that's been for many years, couple of decades, probably, the underpinnings of the basis of the World Financial, system, and that's going away. So hairy times are ahead, and it's gonna be severe. It will be more severe than the twenties. It will be more severe than the '20. Julie, I'll get you a second. Can I talk? It will be more severe it will be more severe than the twenties by far. Yes, Julie. What's your addition? Did you see the did you see the debate between Alex Jones and Nick I did not. Went to went to last night? I I did not. I wasn't in the mood. If it was on the Israel or the Jews or something, I'd have watched it, but a comparison of what Trump's doing, just, you know, didn't interest me. I wasn't gonna spend my time over there. Was there things that, you found particularly poignant?
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I liked it. It was on a bunch of stuff, but, I really did like it. They didn't they didn't really, they didn't really argue much. Roughly, they agreed on a lot of things. You know, some things there was dissension, but I thought it was overall a really good, conversation slash debate. Okay. Good deal. I didn't even really think of it. It was more of a conversation between the two.
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Well, nobody can do anything about it. All you can do is just discuss it. So, anyway, I chose not to watch that. Didn't particularly press my buttons. This morning, Harrison has been all over the Jews when I, missed the first part, first thirty minutes or so. It's all on the Jews after what I heard, and then he's switching over to this Online Protection Act in England. I wonder if Paul's gonna talk about that this afternoon. It's getting pretty severe. Oh, he's been talking about that for a week or two. Has he? Okay. Yeah. The, there was a picture somewhere on some social media site of, Manchester, like some kind of meeting commonplace in Manchester. I don't know. But the comment was it looks like Islamabad, and and they zapped him for that.
Alright. There was another one, this girl, unfortunately, that had been involved in those grooming gangs for ten years. And she came out and told her story on national television, and, they came and arrested her. And it was stuff like Paul. I mean, this is horrible. They take boiling water and put it up a woman's vagina and scar. Hey. This gal had to have her womb and her cervix closed by laser or something to save her life. And they had put just almost scalding hot water up her vagina into her inner female working parts.
And and, I mean, this is just unbelievable to me. Okay? And she comes out and said that's what what was censored off the television interview, but the cops came and I don't know what they did to her, but they came and harassed her. So that is really advancing quickly and in a horrible proportion. Don't worry. They'll try and get it done over here. They've already got the workings of it, the beginnings of it. I forget what they call it, child safety act or something, but the same type of thing. And, listen, just that you know, some people may criticize. One of my old friends got on x and sent me a message and said, man, x is pretty cool. There's all kinds of different groups and this, that, and the other. And he says, I was shocked you weren't on there.
I'm just not a social media guy. K? Per personally, first. Secondly, secondly is, it was just a matter of time before they started doing this. They started censoring back in already in the COVID thing. Now they're coming back, and they got these anti Semitic bills they're trying to rate race through. You you you know, they charge the law firms. This is so effing stupid. They charge these big time law firms, Paul Weiss and and all these creeps. And then they fine them billions of dollars, and they go, well, we're gonna for, quid pro quo, we're just gonna write the anti semilause for you. And that'll take up the fine of the billions of dollars that we owe you. And they agreed to that, of course.
And so now they're doing that, writing that, and all of that crap. They're and it's all gonna be aimed at social media. So I'm glad we're we don't have a presence there myself. I'm sure it probably has kept us from reaching a few people, but I I just, I don't know. It's just something that I've never been interested in Facebook. Never once in all my entire adult life computing ever voluntarily gone to Facebook to look at something. Never. Don't want to. Don't want anything to do with it. It's just my instincts I've always had. You know? So, anyway, at these stages, I'm glad we're not on there.
It hampers us a little bit, but we'll, we'll make it anyway on our own time. Yes, Paul?
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That's that's the problem that I had with Facebook and the integration with WhatsApp and and all that. When WhatsApp wanted to, harvest my list of personal contacts out of my phone, I felt an obligation and a duty to protect my contacts because none of those people gave permission for me to narc them out to WhatsApp or Facebook. I mean, that I I just saw that as crossing a line that I didn't wanna cross.
[00:16:35] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I don't see it as that big a deal. So it's just the difference in the way we view things. And besides, I was using see, WhatsApp was huge down here before Facebook ever bought it. Okay? And, because it was free. And the way those Ukrainian guys or two Ukrainian guys that wrote the program and sold it to Facebook and Zuckerbucks. And then one of them was managing WhatsApp, and he got so pissed off with what they're doing. He left. Okay? But we were using it way before Facebook bought it. And, it's just a great lap. The reason people liked it down here, especially, because most people don't have a lot of, extra income and spendable spendable, cash.
And so what these guys did when they set up WhatsApp is there's a platform. On one side is the Internet and the other side is the phone system. And they figured out a way to get WhatsApp on there, and they could utilize that platform, but they didn't charge you. And so people could use it for free. And that was the big draw on it initially down here. It gave it a lot of impetus. I don't think too many people up there pay by the minute, do they? You most of you got service accounts or whatever your $10, $20, $30 account per monthly. Right? Right. Got an account with a phone system. Right? Right. Because, see, a lot of people don't do that down here like me. I just buy minutes.
And everything works fine when I'm home on the, on Wi Fi anyway. So, I mean, I very rarely pay by minutes. Occasionally, not often, then only usually $2 worth just to kinda keep the account open. So there's a little bit of change going through it. But everything else, I'm always around the house or somebody's calling me, which doesn't, interfere with it or whatever. So that's just the way a lot of people down here do is, just buy minutes for the month. So and I'm sure you got a few people that offer that up there, but I don't know how penetrated it is in the cell phone population.
So, anyway, that's a little bit about that. I've got that interview this afternoon with Logan. Okay. Go. You got you got something to add, Paul? Well, the whole buying minutes thing,
[00:18:57] Unknown:
I mean, you know, you can buy minutes and and, you know, only pay as you go. But, up here, they they would expire your minutes. You know? You buy minutes from the month, they would have Yeah. Yeah. They would expire at the end of the month. But then they do that here also. But then but then they had this great marketing ploy that, well, if you don't use all your minutes, we'll roll them over. So, basically, what they're saying is it's a benefit for us not to steal the remaining minutes you have at the end of the month and flush them.
[00:19:40] Unknown:
But, Lord, I and I don't know how they handle it here, honestly. I just very rarely buy. I'll go and put $2 on it. You know? Yeah. Like I said, just to keep money flowing through the account so they just don't cut it off, which I've been told they'll do if you don't stick some funds in there on a somewhat regular basis. Anyway, that's the way I handle it. So they can listen to everything they wanna listen to. There's no name attached to it. That's fine with me. Okay? I hate cell phones anyway, quite frankly. Very convenient, but I don't for an old man with fat fingers and bad up close eyesight, they're just no fun to mess with at all.
So, anyway, I've got that interview this afternoon, mister Logan. We've been exchanging a few messages this morning. Look forward to meeting him. He's got, Sewing Prosperity is the name of his YouTube channel. I think somebody looked at it and said he's got, like, a 150,000 followers. He's up in Northwest Arkansas, I guess, around Fayetteville. And I think he does a open air organic market or something. So, anyway, I'll find out more about that. He's particularly interested in down here, and he's particularly interested in a pretty bit of strange interest, but he's very interested in cancer. Don't know why.
Maybe his parents had it or something. Oh, what time is it? Logan and I will do that. It's a two. It's a tape thing, so I I don't know when he'll I don't know when he'll post it, but I'm sure he'll let us know. Okay. Nice guy. He seems like a real nice guy. So anxious to talk with him, see if I can enlighten him a little bit. And, let's see. I did not go get my magicJack yesterday, Paul, because she didn't ship it until yesterday. And, day before, they'd gotten back at 06:00 in the morning, so I don't know why I expected her to do all that stuff that first day. Anyway, she did get it done the second day, and I, I may be able to pick it up this afternoon. I might just wait till tomorrow.
So, anyway, I'll I'll get it one of these days. All the hassles of living here, you know, and getting stuff down here. It's lovely living here. It's just getting things down here. That's a, I guess there's other ways to do it. I haven't explored them, but it's kind of a pain in the rear end. But we're well worth it to, live close to paradise like this. So let's see. What else is going on that I found fascinating? I don't know that I've got anything else necessarily on my radar this morning. Is it the the are there any by any chance? I should have started this way. Are there any students or new folks in there with a question they'd like to get addressed?
We had a couple yesterday. Not real challenging questions, but good questions. Good show yesterday. So if there's anybody that is in that condition, position, situation, please come forward.
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K. Hi, Roger.
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There's somebody right there. Yes, ma'am. Good morning.
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Good morning. Thank you for taking my call.
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Sure.
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Well, that's for re that's the reason we're here. Carrie.
[00:22:56] Unknown:
Hi, Carrie. This is Yeah. You're the reason we're here today.
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Thank you. Well, I do have a couple of questions. I'm about two weeks into researching all your documents. Mhmm. And my question in doing the citizen evidence affidavit Yes, ma'am. Is about the name because most women have had a name change if they've been married or something or other. Yes, ma'am. And the birth certificate then would be different.
[00:23:27] Unknown:
Well, you could just put an explanatory yeah. You could just take a little like, put an explanatory thing with it on your your name changes and whatever and identify that and attach it with the, with the birth certificate. I would imagine that will satisfy them.
[00:23:45] Unknown:
So do include the birth certificate with that affidavit?
[00:23:49] Unknown:
Well, let me ask you a question. Are are is it a DS11 that you're sending? Are you I'm talking passport. Are you going with a DS11 as a a first time applicant, or are you doing with a DS82 as a renewal?
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When I get to the passport, it's going to be a renewal.
[00:24:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then you might want to go ahead and send that in and explain it to them. You've already had a passport. Is that the same name you're still using, Carrie?
[00:24:22] Unknown:
It is.
[00:24:23] Unknown:
Okay. Well, there shouldn't be any problem in the passport then. You'll have to send them your expired one or if it's still open and you're gonna do it, just send them that. They'll use that as a basis, and they'll send that back to you. If it's still a open passport, in other words, in the ten year span of, of validity, they'll send it back to you real quick. Usually within a week because in case you're gonna use it for travel or anything. So, it just in your citizenship evidence that you're, you're in other words, you're doing, like, the what we call the cold affidavit with just the cover letter and the affidavit? That's correct. Yes. Just send it to them send it to them. Let them figure it out. And if you're still using the same name, it won't be too much for them. But when you, when you do your passport on the renewal, you'll send them your old or open or current passport, and you shouldn't have any problems in that situation there. I don't see.
Okay? Okay. So I don't know if you're this may help you. This may help you. I'm sorry. I shoulda added this. In a renewal, you don't have to submit the birth certificate like you did in the d s 11. And you don't have to go sign it through a postal employee or authorized agent. You can send it in yourself. Okay? So there's a and they don't ask you the question, were your mother and father citizens of The United States? Those are the things that they omit in the renewal that they had that you have to finish in the d s 11.
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Okay. Alright. So in that original affidavit for
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evidence of this, citizenship,
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use the birth certificate name or include all the names that
[00:26:21] Unknown:
I would just use the because see here, you're sending them a blank, affidavit with a cover sheet. I'll have to go into this story again. We didn't used to do that. Correct. No. I I got that. Do you know the story? Have you heard me tell the story? I have. There's you have. Okay. About the drunk driving guy. So see, that's when we changed all this. Now I'm gonna have to assume that you don't have any skeletons in your closet. Carrie, you sound like a nice nice woman. Okay? And this is for people that have skeletons in the closet. If you have not heard the story, I'll I'll relate it to you and show you what this hinges on. Okay? But if you've heard it already, I won't take the time to do it. So have you have you heard me tell that story or not?
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Of the drunk driver?
[00:27:11] Unknown:
Yes. No. I haven't heard that story yet. Well, I'm gonna show you the reason for this just so you don't everything we do here is thought out and thought through. Okay? The, I got a email from a guy. Said, I I sent in my passport application renewal. They not only kept my money, they rejected my application, and they revoked my current open passport. Well, I was shocked. I've never seen anything like that. You know? So immediately, I try and follow-up on it, get the guy to send me the letter. They'd send him. And what happened was, he's a Brit, came over here in February, naturalized, got a passport.
He got pulled over in San Jose by sheriff's. He wouldn't get out of the car. They busted the window. They they drug him out of the car, put him in jail. He did something that got him out of jail, and in doing so, being a Brit, thought that the charges were gone also. So that's when he heard my message and went in and did a renewal on his passport. But when the passport reached the passport office, they ran an NCIC check, and those two drunk driving charges showed up. So that's what they used as a basis for rejecting his application and revoking, as a flight risk, his current open passport.
So we had to come back and think, and I read the letter, and it said they charged him with two regulations out of 27 CFR, code of federal regulations. And and if you've got your passport recognized, those don't apply to you. And so I said, well, if he had sent in this pat this affidavit first with a cover letter, then he would have at least they would have been in receipt of it at the state department. Those two regulations out of the code of federal regulations would no longer apply to him, and he would have a basis for an administrative appeal.
But he just did this on the wing, and there was none of that. So I said, well, I don't think they can see too many of these affidavits up there in DC at the state department. So why don't we have people send one in blank? Well, not blank. Naked with a short cover letter and then the affidavit, and then wait twenty days. I mean, if you've got questionable background or something, not like you, but you just have to apply this to everybody. Okay? Because this one guy. Alright? And so now we say you got twenty days, then apply for the passport. And then if you have any skeletons in your closet, you've got grounds for an administrative appeal. Hey. I already had my passport in. These shouldn't apply to me on whatever you're using, etcetera, etcetera.
So that is the reason that we do this. One guy. Okay. Okay? Kinda Some of these little experiences question. Hold on.
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I'm sorry.
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Paul. Go ahead.
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Quick on it. If she doesn't have it if she doesn't think that she has any skeletons in the closet, the only thing that's gonna happen when she sends in the naked affidavit, they're just gonna send her back a letter saying that we received your communication. Unfortunately, there's no way to add or change your record to an existing passport account. And then you can then you send them back a letter saying thank you for confirmation of receipt of my citizenship evidence. And then you can put all of those copies and put them in with your passport application. This is what you've gotten. You've gotten it before. There's no reason that you can ignore it.
Give me my damn passport. But if she doesn't have any skeletons, I don't see any reason why she couldn't just do a d s 82 with a copy of the affidavit
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and just do it now. Just I don't know. Pull the trigger, get her done. I I'm Carrie, I'm just trying to explain to you the background on the reason we do things so it makes sense to you. Okay? And everybody else. There's a method there's a method to the madness here. Now hold on. And, Sherry, I believe, who we hadn't heard from since old blue was a pup, injected Sherry, do you say you have a question or something to add?
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That was I was a new person, a student.
[00:31:53] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Alright. Yeah. I'm sorry. I thought it was somebody else. So
[00:31:58] Unknown:
Oh, no. My name is Genora. Okay. And, my that story that you just told sounds similar to mine's. I was a flight attendant, and I lost my job. I lost pretty much everything due to the police. I gave them my passport. They arrested me anyway, plus my window out, took me to jail, gang stalked me for a year, lost my property. I went to update my passport. They now the passport that I had, it was only a year old. I went to update it. They took that passport along with the one I paid for. Basically telling me that I couldn't get my passport because I had a warrant felony.
That's what it said. Warrant felony. I have the letter where they rejected my passport. I really didn't have a rebuttal at the time, because I didn't know what to rebut. But I just got this information from a friend of mine, Todd, and I pretty much printed it up. I just have to go get it notarized. So my question is, in my situation with this because I've been trying to get my passport back
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Yes.
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Which they told me that the the, the charges had the the they said I assaulted the three three officers.
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Oh my god.
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A four a a one hundred and fifty pound woman assaulted three big police officers, and, that was the charge. So I'm trying to get my passport back. So I wanna know what Is it Janine? Having Was it Janine?
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Janora. Janora. You I think you're gonna have to go back and get that charge cleaned up, then go to the passport office and say this no longer applies. Give me my passport back.
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So I have to wait be so I have to wait to send an affidavit and so I have to get the charge No, ma'am. No, ma'am. Satisfied for
[00:34:22] Unknown:
No. You can go ahead and send an affidavit, a naked affidavit with just a cover letter. You can go ahead and send that. Yeah. That doesn't apply Okay. Applying for a passport, and it'll still be you know, keep records, get your return receipt, have your little folder with all the pertinent stuff in there. But you should be able to go back and clean up this, what they're picking up in NCIC, this you and three cops, and get that straightened out. Is that anywhere near getting straightened out?
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Well,
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I just sent, I just sent some paperwork. I just sent a executive letter to the state court administrator. I sent it to the raw I sent it to the district court administrator. So I recently just sent it to the state court administrator that's over the district court administrator. So I'm waiting to get my green card receipt back from Okay. Him to see if, you know, what happens from there. Do you Because,
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go ahead. Where did this happen? You were a flight attendant? What what carrier did you work for?
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Spirit Airlines. But, no, this isn't this didn't happen while I was working. This was off this was off off work time. I was this was in my leave in my leisure.
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Okay. Now they charged you they pulled you over for drunk driving. Is it the same type thing? No.
[00:35:56] Unknown:
Oh, no. No. No. No. No. They pulled me over for, my private plate. And it went from private plate to, oh, you have a suspended license. We're gonna arrest you.
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Oh,
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so you were doing did did you intentionally let it expire? Were you doing that intentionally on the Patriot thing, or did you just overlook it?
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What? The what expire?
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Your tag. Are you getting your license? No. I just
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had no. I just had private plates, and I had rescinded the license a year before. I turned the license into the state, and they suspended it. But before I turned them in, they were perfectly fine. I had no tickets, no nothing. No points or nothing. I just You you were playing Patriot Gal there with the plates and stuff.
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Well, after you get in
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after you get into this a little deeper and get yourself straight on your status, you can go to the Department of Transportation's website and get them to issue you a number for a private plate that you have a private car. Okay. And, then you can go and get somebody that makes license plates print that number in, and use that as your tag. Okay?
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So that's an option for what I had. Are you are you talking about the DOT
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tag? That's what you had?
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That's what I had.
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What state are you in? And
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they took Michigan. Oh. They took both of my tags. Yeah. They took both of my they took both of my DOT tags, and then the state police the state troopers told me that it was illegal to put a DOT number on a plate, and that was illegal to make a plate. So if I get pulled over, I'll just keep going to jail. Good lord have mercy. Wait. Can you just post the number and get it in as a bumper sticker? I can't imagine
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that a a a federal government website that issues you a number that says your car is a private conveyance that they just didn't recognize that.
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Well I don't have this is I spoke to
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that's because you haven't got your status changed properly yet. Well, Carrie will get back to you in a minute. It's Merica, Roger. I know Merica. What what what?
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Okay. Go ahead. I'm wondering if if she if she corrected her status, and if she did, it did it our way. We would usually tell our students to follow-up with the notices right away.
[00:38:32] Unknown:
If did she do that? I doubt if she did that. If you ever if you've studied our material before, and I'm sorry. I forget your name. It's an unusual name. But if you could just say Gigi.
[00:38:45] Unknown:
Pardon me? You could just say Gigi, but I just got the information in literally a couple like, a week ago. And I've been about us? I listened to the video.
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Yes. Okay.
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Yeah. I literally just got the, information, and I went through your page and read all of the information with the passport, the birth certificate, the affidavit evidence.
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Citizenship evidence. But what I suggest affidavit. Yes. What Gigi, what I'd suggest you do right now is Okay. Try and continue to five courts. This incident that happened is now ex post facto. It happened before when you had That was status. Now you're gonna change your status, and I don't know if you can go back and and and and what's called grandfather that in. I don't think it counts. You were under the other status when that happened. So let's try and get your status cleaned up, and then we can move forward from there. Okay?
[00:39:51] Unknown:
Okay. So I'll send those letters. I wanna send the first three letters out. I know one is going to the state department.
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Yes, ma'am. Let's get that one done first. K? And you'll Okay. All you have to do is notify them with a short letter. Please find the enclosed affidavit of citizenship evidence. Please correct your records as to my, current status, whatever. Just one short and simple. Yeah. Then you're gonna send that with a copy of the affidavit. Do at that point, you could also notice IRS. If IRS is important to you, you can notice IRS Yes. Since this has been filed and then send it to the IRS. At that point, you could also go back to the state of Michigan and notice your, who's that? Vegetarian you got up there as the attorney general. Whatever.
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The attorney general, Dana Nessel.
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Oh, okay. Her. Yeah. A little Jew vegetarian. And then you send it to her, and then you copy your local sheriff, your local chief of police, and, your local prosecutor as a cc, like a corporate carbon copy. Yeah. And you're gonna send all four of those. They're each one of those is gonna get a copy of what you send to miss miss Nestle. Okay? And you could do all that now and then work on getting this this, charge set aside or what however they're gonna do with it. And now you should be able to get your passport back. And when you do that, now you go back and apply for a renewal on that passport and you include the affidavit in with that package and you should get a new passport. You only need a card issued under your new status, and your paperwork should be attached to that. So that's what I'd suggest to you Okay.
Force of attack here. Okay? What what I still I won't have to, submit the birth certificate, would I? No. No. No. Because you're doing a you've already got a passport. The only time you have to do that is when you're first getting a passport. That's the only time. Okay.
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Okay? Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Genon Alright. Genondra. Right? Gigi.
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Gigi. What what's your complete name, Genondra?
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Genora.
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Genora. Okay. Yeah. So make sure that when you send your affidavit in, send your notices send your notices out as soon as possible.
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I'm sending them out today.
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But because that's your protection is the state even though they don't realize it. But that's what's really happening. I give you some technical stuff here, but let's just I've fed you a bunch of stuff already. You're new. Let's not overwhelm you at this point. Okay?
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And and I also posted in my Telegram group right there on National Status Freedom if you need some guidance.
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Okay. Can I get with you today if possible?
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Yeah. Just reach out. The links in the chat.
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You have Telegram, Gigi? Oh, Gigi.
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Gigi. Hey, Roger.
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Does she have Telegram? Is anybody hearing me? Yeah.
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She might, Roger, because, maybe she's following, Joe's,
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information too. Okay. Good day. Don't know. Paul, what's your addition here?
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If they revoked her existing passport and refused to issue a passport, I'm thinking she's gonna have to do a d s 11. I I don't I don't know if they did that. They just kept her passport.
[00:43:46] Unknown:
That's what she said. Yeah. They kept both of them. They kept both of my passport. I had a four star passport, and then when I went to try to update it with new information, they took the one I had and the one I paid for and basically took and they took they said I can get my expedited funds back, but I I haven't even
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even did that yet either. Just go go go back and just try and get the original problem straightened out. K. Don't worry about the passport right now. Go back and see get that Yeah. Straightened out, and then you shouldn't have any problems navigating whatever they throw at you. Okay?
[00:44:27] Unknown:
Right. Right. So I'll send those out today to the IRS and the state department. And, I think, who else gets a a wet ink signature one?
[00:44:40] Unknown:
No. You can send copies to any of those people. You don't have to send them originals. Okay?
[00:44:48] Unknown:
Oh, we don't have to send the original. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. I I thought I had to, like
[00:44:55] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
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Send them originals.
[00:44:58] Unknown:
No. You don't. Are you in the Detroit area, or what part of Michigan are you in?
[00:45:04] Unknown:
I'm in, Rochester right now. Rochester Hills right now. Okay. Is that close to Detroit?
[00:45:12] Unknown:
Yeah. I I'm from Detroit, though. I was born in Detroit. Well, we got a month number in Michiganders on here is the reason I asked. Okay? So I'm surprised they're not all jumping in to say hello. So we got a number of folks up there already.
[00:45:27] Unknown:
Well, I appreciate that. It's more of us in Michigan that's doing this.
[00:45:33] Unknown:
Well, good. Pass it around. Tell them about it. And if folks need their questions answered and learn more, here's the place to find it. So I think we got you, sir. Hello, Roger.
[00:45:43] Unknown:
Yes. Hey, Roger. Thank you.
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Yes. Oh, hello, Roger?
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Yes.
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Roger Sales. My name is, Todd. I'm a a national and a citizen of Massachusetts State, and I just,
[00:45:59] Unknown:
wanted to do a couple things real quick if I could, and it's gonna be thanking you. Okay. Hold on just a second. Todd, hold on just a second. Oh, sure. Gary, I'll get back to you in a minute. Just keep your questions there. Okay, Todd. Go ahead.
[00:46:13] Unknown:
Oh, thank you so much. Sorry. I I just wanted I I wanted to come in and not interrupt anybody. I believe well, Terry's a friend of mine. I believe Gigi's in my group, and there's Jennifer, and there should be a bunch of other people. All of my eight years of of awakeness and studying and researching, I finally found you and I was patient. I didn't have to, thank god. I I just I something my gut was telling me that all these different things were not right, as I kept being a a student. And I just, first and foremost, wanted to thank you, Rogers Hills. For thirty years of your family research, you got you're doing it for free.
No rebuttals. I have a large group in, in TikTok and and on a Discord and, in other places, YouTube. And everything has been changed to mirroring the video I saw you were on Grassroots, and then the a national Presley came on with his video.
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Yeah. What boy, there's some
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more you yeah. 18 year old I just wanna thank you guys so much. Todd,
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18 years old Presley. And his mother came on with him and said he's got two younger brothers that are sharper than he is.
[00:47:33] Unknown:
Unbelievable video he did, and I and they're on all of my, social media sites right now. All of them. I just wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I know this is a way. I've already done my citizen, evidence affidavit. I did it the way he did it with the 13. I know you don't have to do that. You basically just have to I so I duly swear, you know, you'll you only have to do the simple one, you know, that I'm not a US citizen and I'm a a a national, you know. And, and and I did it the citizen of affidavit. I got five of of them with the 13 and then the notarized on the back so they never can leave each other, and I got five of them, done yesterday, notarized.
Cool. And today, I'm about to do all the the cover sheets.
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Todd, how did our information hit your group?
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Was it the Well, I have to get Terry who was on here earlier. Yes. Terry came on and and told me that you were, she's heard you on the grassroots interview, which I'm gonna go back on with him because I don't think he ended up doing your process.
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What is the grassroots interview? I don't know that one. Terry, what was the grassroots, Terry? Who is the guy?
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That's Kevin Hoyt. Okay. Kevin Hoyt. Alright. Okay. Alright. Well, that's I've also heard, Josh, all of your videos. I mean, I've heard all of your videos. I've I've been through all of your webs websites, with, I just basically, this is all I'm doing now because I think this is the most important thing that any anybody who's listening, any of my people that are in here in my group, everything you're doing right now, this is the first step that literally gives you all your rights, your unleanable rights, your your constitutional rights. 99% of the content on social media, even these auditors, which I respect, they're running around saying you're breaking my old right right right right Right? Breaking this, doing this, and the cops are confused. But once you get to court, you lose 99% of the time. That's because you are a US citizen. You have only one right, and that's residency.
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By the way, we, we, try and keep you out of court. I wanted to correct you just a little bit. It's not just my this is not just my thirty years that I put in this thirty three. Yes. Today's the anniversary, the first solo radio show I did actually today. We forgot to mention Oh, happy anniversary. How many years? Oh, that was, fifteen years ago.
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Oh, that's wonderful. Yep. So, anyway, that makes that thing Well, I only could go back to 2023 on your radio.
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That's a good news. No. You can go back much further than that. You just have to bird dog you where. Okay. Which I'll do in a second. This is, what you guys are being exposed to here is the result of over one hundred years of historical and legal research in three men's lives. So that's what we call hundred years. Over over a 100. K? Okay. Go ahead. Had the tax thing. And the reason I have the advantage that I've had is because there was a gentleman named John w Benson who was my law teacher. His partner still lived in You talked about guy named, Glenn Ambor, a dear friend.
And, he Glenn is, you you you remember a a football player named Roger Staubach? Yeah. The Dallas cowboy? Well, Glenn tutored Yeah. He's a quarterback. Yes. Glenn tutored him through Annapolis to the Heisman Trophy. Oh, wow. Okay. So that's that's him. So it's those two guys that I crossed paths with in July about this time of of of 1992. And their problem we're not their problem. Their deal was they were totally focused on the tax issue. They had blinders on. They couldn't see outside of that because John knew all this futile stuff. Okay? And he should have had he not been so focused on taxes. He should have realized because they had us file our affidavits when we submitted this paperwork.
We filed it in the property records office of either where we were born or where we lived. And so they didn't realize filing it with the Manor in the feudal system in charge of all matters concerning citizenship. And John Office of the Department of State. Absolutely. I'm gonna tell you, if they'd have realized that thirty years ago, we'd probably
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live in a totally different country right now. That's how significant that is. Wow. Would have been a huge change if they knew 26 CFR one. They
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couldn't come back after them. See, they couldn't come back after them if they'd filed it with the Secretary of State. When they filed in the property records office, they start throwing around $500 frivolous filing penalties, which are now $5,000, by the way, etcetera, etcetera. So I just wanted you and your new folks to realize, look, this isn't just me. Here's what happened. I said, I got involved with these guys and I never had made enough money to have a tax problem. Well, by God, after I got with John You're so humble. I had one. I had a tax problem real quick. Okay? And so they sent me, a summons for books and records, and I decided to fight them. And I fought them in district court in a hearing down there in Atlanta.
And I had an IRS agent on the stand for four and a half hours. Never got one document admitted into evidence. And that little she's a cute little black gal, and, boy, she hated my guts, and I understand why. And, boy, by the time we got finished with all that, they went off and conjured up $30,000 worth of debt. And I went off trying to lick my wounds and, get myself back into mental health. And when I did that, I said, hell, there's gotta be a better way to do this. And that's when I switched always takes something drastic like that, doesn't it? I I that's when I switched to jurisdiction. And for years and years, I've been well, I use the analogy of, like, a blind man with one of those canes. There's white and red on the end, you know, and he taps his way down the side. Well, that's what I've been doing for all these years. And then I just I I had a little voice come to me in 02/2007.
Obama was running, said you need to get out. I didn't heed it. It came again. When it comes twice, I listen. And so I had to go get a passport because I decided I was moving to Argentina. And, so for the very first time, I had to go get a passport. I went and got it, printed copies at the little post office, came home, put my feet up on my desk, Todd, and there at the top of the first page was the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years. No shit. No shit. Now here's the reason for that. Because Yeah. The passport is a document under the laws of nations to present you to foreign powers.
So, therefore, if they're presenting you properly, they have to know your correct political status, don't they? Amazing. And so what they've done is I'll give you a whole but I'll give there's new folks on here. I'll give you the background here. Do it. Have you ever heard of the, paperwork reduction act?
[00:55:00] Unknown:
Of course. I haven't really I'm a student always, Roger.
[00:55:04] Unknown:
Okay. Well, the Paperwork Reduction Act came out at Watergate, and it said that any agency that puts out a document that's called an information gathering request, where you're asking the public for information, they have to send that document through the Office of Management and Budget, and it has to go through a very strict checklist to make sure everything they're doing is constitutional. And then they issue it an OMB number. And if it doesn't have the OMB number, the agency can't put it out as an information gathering request. So they have to be very specific. See?
And, that's why in the passport application are all the answers. Now they've gone to great lengths of item. You won't see them if you don't know what you're looking for, but they're in there. K?
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Well, thank God you have a little, affidavit to slip in there, Forrest. Well, good. Well, you do that and let I can't I maintain
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that there are not enough pieces of this paper flying around Washington DC
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and that to send them and copy everybody you need to. If you're having problems Well, Roger, I am I am in the process of making that happen. I'm gonna let everybody with eyes to see and ears to hear know this. And that's my goal going forward. But I'm gonna be this, guinea pig, but you already were the guinea pig. You you have no rebuttals. Everything I do is is exactly what you do. You you don't even have to make it your own. That's what they always say. I mean, mean, you put your name on there and you you're you know how you make it your own? You learn what you're actually signing and make sure you know how to handle yourself. Okay. Now this is real important.
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There's a direct correlation. Unfortunately, freedom's not free. I don't charge you because I don't think there's people that have gone through this that couldn't have afforded even a couple $100. And so it's just I charge you. Charge for freedom, you know, just Oh, okay. Because you're gonna have to pay me. You're gonna pay me, but you're not gonna pay me with money or with debt, Babblebucks. You're gonna pay me for learning and committing to learn and get your arms around this information the best you can. And the reason for that my well, your the degree if you really wanna be free, you're never gonna be free if you can't defend your position.
So you the charge is to learn and understand this information and, a, be able to defend your position and, b, be able to explain it to other people. That is where we get exponentiality. See?
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Then when you get real healthy and real discernment, you learn how to actually know how to the people that aren't doing the work, it might even be family. You have to know how to let the most high creator bring them when they're ready and go to the people that are listening and doing the research. I think that's very crucial.
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Yep. And you don't you this is what I say, Todd. It's easier to pull a rope than push a rope. Rope. So the only way we get people here is like you and your group and the people that this hit and registered with and they go, this is what we're looking for. I gotta find out more and you're attracted to this. I can't go chase you and beat you over the head with it because you're never gonna learn the information that way. And so therefore, you're never gonna be really free. And so you're really being counterproductive, aren't you?
[00:58:28] Unknown:
That's correct. You know? Same thing with me and the people like yourself, there's a lot of new people that could come in and kinda pick it up fairly quick. I've been blessed, by my maker to have, just, you know, got myself healthy. I think that's the most important part first, Herbaly. You know, long story short, and I don't really wanna talk about me because I have a couple questions, but I was you know, 02/2019, I was everybody has their story. You know? The the reason why they're here, there's no coincidence why you're on this call right now. So everything in the past made you due to this moment. You'd have to get rid of all that because it was all it brought you to who you are now, and I've been blessed because my last eight years has me basically learning everything without making any big moves, And now it's just go time. And now it's a safety go time as a national with all of my rights. You know? You know, Todd, it's amazing. And it's just come to me over all these years of doing it
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and learning this because I teach it every day almost. See? So, man, if you wanna learn this information, find somebody that wants to listen, teach it to them. You'll find out real quick what you don't understand and what you do. Go back and correct what you don't and go find somebody else to talk to. Okay? When you never stop learning, Roger. No. We never I I'm still learning. A thirty something years ago, I still realize stuff. Okay? So it's a process You're a student teacher. Not an event. Yes. If the event was when you cross the line with this information, from then on, it's a process.
Okay? Now here's the big here's the big hide. What set of laws you live under is your decision, not theirs. That's Vatel's law of nations, even echoed in The US charter. You can expatriate. You can go there's a very formal deal, takes a lot of money in six or eight months. You can go get you a French passport, come back to the state department, pay them thousands of dollars, wait months, and pretty soon they'll let you go to the French passport and then you can give up your citizenship. That's called expatriation. That's not what we do.
What we do is repatriate
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to the original status has been hidden from us, and we don't have to We've already got dual student we already have dual status. Well, hopefully so you don't want no. You don't have
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no. No. You don't have dual. You've got one. You're a citizen of The United States. Every time they've ever asked you, if you were, you answered it. Am I are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? You signed something. That's your agreement with their fraudulent contract.
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They put you in there for privileges.
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Right? They, they, they, they, they put everybody in to this condition as a surety for a fraudulent bond bankruptcy back in 1933 And it's the feudal system underneath that. So every child that's been born since 1933 was born into this condition. And they asked you, you're all Absolutely. Do you agree with it? Can you give us the consent to govern you in this capacity? And you sign something. Well, hell, what else do you expect them to do? Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Old Todd up in Michigan, y'all know what the hell he is, shouldn't he?
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Amazing. I just love it, man. Listen. I don't wanna take your whole day. I just, can I can I ask you a couple questions real quick? Well, that's what we're here for. But I don't want to ignore Well, so much deal here, Todd. Student. Todd, we have a deal here that women go first. Because if I didn't do that, my mother
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would shame me. Okay? So I'm gonna go back to Carrie who opened all this up. I'm gonna come back to you, but I wanna say with Carrie, did we address you Absolutely. Two more questions, please. Absolutely. I'm on pause. Okay, Carrie. You still there, sweetie? Oh, Carrie. Wow. Carrie, star six.
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Oh, there we go. Now I'm unmuted.
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Alright. There you are. Hey, girl. Can you hear me now? I hear you fine. Now what other questions did you have? Okay.
[01:02:44] Unknown:
Well, I wanted to clarify about the name for the citizen evidence affidavit because I don't know now if I'm supposed to use my birth certificate name Oh. Or my married name. Use your married name.
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Okay. So we don't have to go back to that original documentation of who we are.
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If they've got problems, are you're you're sending in a renewal. Correct? Not a a DS11?
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That's correct.
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Okay. The only time a a a birth certificate is required is a DS11. If they have any questions, they'll contact you, straighten it out with them, and do what they ask. I don't think they'll have any questions because you've got a previous passport already.
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Right. And so the cover letter does include the social
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at the bottom when that goes into the secretary of state.
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Well, if you've got a name So that will help identify. Go it could. If you've got a name like, Carrie Jones. Well, hell, how many Carrie Jones are there? It's probably a number of them. So in that point, you want to identify yourself specifically, probably on the affidavit. If you've got a previous passport, you could use that passport number that identifies you to them. If you don't, you could use the last four digits of your social security number and the, place and date of your birth. Let them ascertain it from that. K? And do that on the cover letter? Well, I'd do it on the affidavit if there's any question and problem with them confusing you with somebody else.
Under your signature on the affidavit, just put that information. If you're if it's Carrie Waszewski or something, there's probably not too many of those. But if it's Carrie Jones, you might wanna do that. So I don't really have a pat answer for that.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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And I do have a friend in our group. You had mentioned something in one of your calls that someone born in Washington DC has a different status or different way of approaching that, like the American Samoans?
[01:05:11] Unknown:
Well, the American Samoan is a whole different matter. If you're born in DC, you're a citizen of The United States. Right? Right? Right. Okay. Well, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. So the person that's a citizen of The United States, whether born in DC or not, can move over, in my understanding, to the state citizenship even though they weren't a state citizen simply because they're a citizen of The United States. And they get with that, they get access to both statuses.
They try and hide it from you. Of course. They don't want you to know about it, but I don't see any problem with someone in that situation, acquiring it and and, trying to use that approach. Okay? So So we don't have that happen very often. It it happens occasionally. I I don't remember any specific problems anyone had with that. Okay? Question.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. So a friend of mine who was born there Uh-huh.
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Well, here's the here's the logic. Yes. I'll let you finish. Go ahead.
[01:06:24] Unknown:
Okay. Well, yeah. So she has a couple of different name changes, and she was born in Washington DC. So she was just making sure how to do her affidavit.
[01:06:36] Unknown:
Well, use her current name, the one she's recognized under, and if she's gonna okay. Yes. Yes, Julie.
[01:06:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I went over this with you before, and, I have several different names as well. And so in my affidavit, I put my, legal name, but I also go by my maiden name and then combinations of my legal name and and married name. So I put in parentheses also known as, and I put all the other names that I'm known by on my affidavit. And, then I signed it. So that took away all of the doubt when doing my affidavit. I yield.
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Thank you.
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You know, the the what I use in these situations, Carrie, is it's easier to ask forgiveness and permission. Submit what you want. If they've got problems with it, they'll contact you. Fulfill what they're asking. You shouldn't have any problems. K?
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Very much.
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Okay. I'll tell you. So so the Washington DC,
[01:07:40] Unknown:
that shouldn't be any different, though. Right? The what just because she was born there
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No. To the same affidavit.
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Right. She still should have access to the national status even though she's born in DC. Never had anything shown otherwise. Okay? So, if they did, I believe it would be discrimination on her. But tell her to move forward. It's better to ask permission than forgiveness than permission and, submit it and see what they say. I can tell you a bunch of stories, several stories, but Mirka wants to say something. Paul wants to say something. A bunch of people wanna add stuff here. So let me go. Paul was first, Mirka. Paul, what did you have to say?
[01:08:23] Unknown:
Well, I've got a couple of things. First of all, the, she's definitely gotta put down her maiden name, like, even if it's an AKA because her married name is a legal person that did not exist before she was married. So that person actually got its life from the marriage license. And, the second point is, the, District of Columbia was just, like, hacked out of the country. If she knows, like, where, in the District of Columbia she was born. She could go back to prior to the existence of the District of Columbia. And then there will be a state. There will be a state territory
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underneath the land where she put her feet in the top. It was Maryland.
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So, that's not a big deal. East Of Potomac, Maryland.
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Southwest is Virginia.
[01:09:26] Unknown:
Okay. So that's not a big deal. Now my question is just with the whole name thing, we've got a bunch of people in the brain trust in the afternoon, and they just, like, go nuts about the name thing. So if you can hang around after the show, I'm sure that Samuel might have something to say about it. I'm sure that Julie might have something to say about it. Murca, maybe Murr. There's just a lot of people that where you guys can just have a nice discussion and drill down on the whole name and on what actual, legal person that you're addressing or putting them on notice through. Yeah. So that was my point. Now I believe it's.
[01:10:04] Unknown:
How about a drink of water out of a fire hydrant there, Carrie? Merck is next. Go ahead.
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Okay.
[01:10:12] Unknown:
Anybody that's born in, DC is a US citizen, so that, you know, that answers that question. There's no issue with that. The name, you can just put, like, you someone mentioned, the maiden name and then also the married name on because they do ask that on the passport application. So you can put on your affidavit so it shows the information that'll clear everything up. Alright.
[01:10:38] Unknown:
Now, Carrie, I'm gonna try and go back to you. If we can do so uninterrupted. I wanted to tell you and Todd in your group, though. One day, one of our old listeners, Daryl, came on here years ago, and he goes, a Gordian knot has to be untied the way it was tied. That's what we've done. We've untied the Gordian knot. K? They have to recognize it. They can't deny it. They can't rebut it. And all they can do is stay on mute when we really understand that with these papers being put forward, we evidence they're fraud. They can't deny it. They can't rebut it, so they have to stand mute and accept it.
And so what you're doing when you file this paperwork, two things happen simultaneously, best I can conclude. One of them is you achieve your freedom. You're back as a state citizen with God given rights and constitutional protections. By the way, just to correct everybody because everybody makes this mistake, The only rights the constitutional document gives you is civil rights under the fourteenth amendment. So every time you hear one of our lawyers like Barnes, one of our senators, one of our even our president go constitutional rights, they're talking about the fourteenth amendment even though they may not recognize it. K?
Occasionally, you'll hear them say, god given, constitutionally protected, but this is the type of thinking that I want to, sharpen all of you out at where you can look at that and go there are no such thing as constitutional rights except civil rights under the fourteenth amendment. That's the only rights that document gives you, and they're small r, by the way. Privileges. So alright. Back to Carrie. Carrie, what other questions do you have for us?
[01:12:36] Unknown:
That's that's all for right now. I truly appreciate all the input. That does make a lot of sense, and I'm much more clear on my documents because they will go out this week.
[01:12:47] Unknown:
Fantastic. Welcome to your new freedom. Start telling people about it. Learn as much as you can. Thank you. And get to a point where you can defend your position when anybody asks you from any direction. Then you're free. Okay? Alright. Love it so much. Okay. Well, welcome to the show. Please come back and join us. Pardon me? Yes. You can.
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Okay.
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And if you do that, check with Myrca. She's got those documents and stuff over on the Telegram channel. There's a couple of other people that have resources. Also, Dave and Kaye have set up a a really, really neat website with, with, AI attached. It'll generate your documents. It'll do all kinds of stuff for you. And that is nationalstatus.info or nationalstatus.com. K, as we're just this week, put up a website for me because I'm a terrible self promoter. And she has put up a website, rogersales.com, where if you've got comments, audio, or or written, you can go over there and, yell at me telling me I'm a jerk like these people down here are. Mhmm. On my, some of the people I used to hang around with, or you can put anything you want up there. They'll clear it, of course, if it's totally nasty. But anyway, that's there. There's a couple of resources on the website.
There's a trifold brochure that Gary and Gina, couple of our long time listeners, have, have put up there for you to hand out, print out. There's a Devon has done a national citizenship's handbook that's 71 pages that's really, really, really well put together. So there's a number of things we've got for you to help you here in your efforts. Okay?
[01:14:43] Unknown:
Alright. Roger, I have one quick question if you don't mind. Is this Gigi again? Yeah. I just have one really quick question. I wanted to piggyback off of Okay. Fine. I just wanted to piggyback off of Todd. So Todd, in the video, the guy Presley had did a affidavit of one to 13 affidavit. Does it matter which one we do? No. Or should we just go with the one that was created? Here's what's here's what matters.
[01:15:17] Unknown:
What we're running under is called a presumption of law. If you don't know what that is, you can go look it up, and it says a presumption of law is a presumption that's based upon another fact. So they've got secondhand presumptions going on here. For example, there was a bond, bankruptcy back in the thirties. And because there's a ban bond bankruptcy, we're gonna try and deal with the bankruptcy. And we've got this, fourteenth amendment sitting over here where these people are actually property, we'll just move them over in total there under the presumption of law that they're sureties for this bankruptcy. Yes. Alright? So what you've got to do and what you're doing when you deal with these people, it doesn't have to be exactly what words are used.
What you've got to do, however, is you've got to rebut that presumption. Mhmm. Doesn't really matter how you do it. Hey, Marcela. Okay. It doesn't really matter how you do it or what you say, but you gotta rebut the presumption. You can do it a number of different ways. We've got a sample affidavit that two paragraphs. I don't believe there's any wiggle room in there. You can use the state department's one sentence. Have you seen that yet, Gigi? It's over on I did. Yep. Okay. There it is. I, Gigi, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national, not a citizen of The United States. That rebuts the presumption. Just one sentence.
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Got it. Got it. It doesn't have to be.
[01:16:55] Unknown:
No. It doesn't. It can be sent in as a declaration. However, notarized documents take a little bit special more special space. Do you understand that?
[01:17:09] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:17:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, they're they're the highest form. Well, they're the highest form of pre of of, not the all she's doing, the notary, all she's doing is just recognizing that you're the person that the document is about that's signing it. That's her only job. K? No witness. Nothing. Alright? But what you're doing with that is you're actually doing court testimony. And so for them to achieve a higher position, they've got to do an affidavit under penalty of perjury that rebuts all your facts, and they can't do that. So you're stand by default. So that's just a little bit better way to do it. Okay?
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Okay.
[01:17:54] Unknown:
Thank you. Appreciate you. I'm sweetie. Well, we'll be fine. Know We all listen. Everybody on here that's so quiet I'll be joining you all the time. Well, we hope so. I'm a tell you everybody on here that's so quiet except for Paul and Merca, they are loving the fact that we got this whole group of people coming in here today. Because you make us stronger. You make us proud. You let us know that you're advancing in the right direction. You make us stronger. We love you.
[01:18:22] Unknown:
Thank you. We love you too. And I'm gonna pass the word to everybody that I know so that they can be free, and their families can be free. So we're gonna just continue to spread the wealth of knowledge that you have provided. And I thank you, and I appreciate you again for the information.
[01:18:41] Unknown:
Alright, sweetie. If you're right here, I'd I'd, give you a big hug and a big old smacker. So, anyway, one of these days, maybe we'll do that. I'll give it right back. Alright. Well, Todd, we're gonna revert back to you. You had more questions. And but let me just take a pause for a second. We've been in a hot and heavy conversation here for a few minutes. Is there anybody from my audience is normally here that wants to say something or add something or ask a question of these fine folks? Nobody? Okay. Well Right. Right here. Yeah. So there okay. Here's Boris.
[01:19:21] Unknown:
Yes, Boris. Hey, Roger. I I I have a comment for Yeezy, and welcome to everybody. You know, before I did this, I was not supposed to get a passport. I sent my affidavit and everything, and then I asked for the passport, and they sent it to me. No problem. No questions asked. I don't know, but I think that when you do this, everything else goes away. I'm not a 100%, but I can tell you what happened to me.
[01:19:56] Unknown:
Did you happen to and then
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no. No. I just paid for my for my fast food card. That's it.
[01:20:05] Unknown:
Let me add. Boris came on here one day, and we got him out of tax the tax situation. And Boris came on. He said, I wanna thank you. For the first time since I've been here, I was able to go on a vacation to Puerto Rico and see my family because I could afford it because they weren't taking those taxes out. So those are the kind of real life situations that we have here. K? Thank you. Oh, I do have one more. I do have one more
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or, really quick. So I was trying to pull out my four zero one k through Charles Schwab, and they've been giving me a great deal of, headache to get it because they wanted me to fill out a w nine. And I told them I refused to fill out a w nine, that they needed to provide a w nine, which they didn't. So I reported them to the CFBP to get some gather some information from them. And I also found who their federal regulator was, which was a federal bank. And they then sent me a W8, some type of W eight with all of their information. And it it's not a regular W eight from the IRS. So Was it a was it a was
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it a W8BEN by any chance?
[01:21:30] Unknown:
I sent them a W8BEN. They didn't accept it. Then I sent a W 8, Then they sent me a rendition of a w eight from their institution for me to fill out in order for me to collect my funds because they were trying to take out a 20%
[01:21:49] Unknown:
tax Mhmm. Of course. On,
[01:21:52] Unknown:
on my yeah. So would this, be something
[01:21:57] Unknown:
If they took the 20% out, if you filed your paperwork, you should be able to go back and file a ten forty n r with the IRS next year and get that back. And and I just I I know what I've heard and what we've discussed on here, and our buddy that's kind of an expert on this will probably be with us next Monday. He has spent forty years as a financial planner and knows all this area much better than I do. But you might also wanna contract one of the metals dealers who will convert your four zero one k to metals and let them deal with Charles Schwab for you. I I don't know if that's possible, but there's several people that know, that do that for you as a service. Are you aware of that?
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No. I wasn't.
[01:22:48] Unknown:
Well, there's a p l but Pete I wasn't. Okay. But I think it's Pete Elliott. He's got he works with Alex, and they do that. There's another one called Noble Gold that does that. We've got a new student in the in the in the oven, named Austin that's a gold dealer, And he should have been with us last couple of Saturdays. He hasn't, so he may be with us this Saturday. They may do that, but you can contact some people that do convert. What they do is they go in and pull your your funds out, and they and they put them in a custodial account with gold and silver. K? So Really?
Oh, yeah. You didn't know people did that?
[01:23:34] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I well well, I was trying to utilize the funds because I'm homeless right now, and I was trying to get funds so I can find a place to stay. Well, gosh. You're not it's the problem is none of it's gonna be
[01:23:49] Unknown:
instantaneous. But if you want just the funds, you can try, I guess, and get it personally. Let them go ahead and shine on the 20% and and, apply for it next year in the October.
[01:24:04] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I haven't even I haven't even pulled it yet. They want me to submit the w eight in order to, I guess, in order for them not to be able to take the 20% so I can get my full distribution.
[01:24:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we've got a guy on here, my paralegal buddy, Mark. He's with us usually on Wednesdays and Saturdays. He's having to take care of his elderly parent parents and stuff. He's not here today, but he's a little more of, attuned with all this IRS stuff about things like this than I am. So you might check back again Saturday. Okay? I definitely will. I definitely will. And we're on we're on the air six days a week. Saturday for the people that are still employed that wanna ask questions and stuff. So, anyway, that's where we are. So anything else, Gigi?
[01:25:00] Unknown:
No. Well, who do I send it to for the IRS? Do I send it to the commissioner of the IRS? Like, is there or the headquarters?
[01:25:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You send it to the Washington DC office. Somebody has that address around here. You can find it on the Internet. You could probably send it to any of their offices, quite frankly. I like to send it to the commissioner. Okay. Alright? And just say and and you're very short and sweet. Here's a copy of my affidavit now on file with the Secretary of State of the United States of America. Please correct any and all records in your possession Mhmm. My political status change. Something to that effect.
[01:25:43] Unknown:
Got it. Yep. Okay. Very simple. I rest I digress. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Not complex at all. Todd, front and center.
[01:25:57] Unknown:
Oh, Todd. I think I have one more young lady that might be being shy that might wanna talk before me, and then I'd love to proceed.
[01:26:05] Unknown:
Alright. Well, who's the young lady that's shy? We don't bite. I don't have enough teeth to bite you very hard. I can gum you pretty good. But, we'd love, we'd love to talk to you. My name is Mary Orthoske. Hi, Mary. Are you in Michigan too? How are you? Good. No. I'm in Illinois. Worst state in the world. Oh my god. I'm sorry. I didn't know we could go further down. I know.
[01:26:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Other way, it's, quite the joke. Let me tell you. It's a mess. But, anyway, I do have a question. Okay, ma'am. I wasn't being shy. I just didn't know how to work it. You don't sound too shy to me. I've been studying this for, no. I'm not shy. My daughter has cerebral palsy, and I can't get anyone to answer this question for me. I am her legal guardian of the person and guardian of the estate under the public because she accepts privileges and benefits from the federal government as well as the state government. Well, the federal government funding is frozen right now. She wasn't a group home. She's home now. But if I do this process, what happens to her? Because No. She get myself out of this map? Shouldn't have any She won't lose her disability or anything?
[01:27:13] Unknown:
No. Because that's for her, not for you. Okay. Because
[01:27:18] Unknown:
correct. But because I make decisions for her because of her mental That Good. I make decisions. But
[01:27:26] Unknown:
You got all the you got all the leeway in the world that won't affect that relationship at all to my knowledge. K?
[01:27:35] Unknown:
Okay. I'm still learning.
[01:27:37] Unknown:
Well, we all hey, Mary. I'm still learning. Studying the letter now. Thirty thirty three years, and I'm still learning occasionally. I go, I'll be damned. I didn't realize that. You know, that kind of a reaction.
[01:27:50] Unknown:
Well, I just went through your rumble, and I was blown away Do I have rumble? From the '19, '94. Well, no. There is like, to watch a video because Todd put put together an amazing YouTube. It's definitely it's amazing. And then all the, you know, the steps and where to go and how to learn your process.
[01:28:11] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And it's really I was blown away about the constitution. I know when y'all approach this, it's very complex. But when you get into it and get your arms around this, you're gonna go, I can't believe this is as simple. It's just nothing to it. It's all a word game on planning opposite definitions in your subconscious. The whole thing revolves on that right there.
[01:28:36] Unknown:
It's amazing. Is this the same as, common law courts as well?
[01:28:41] Unknown:
Well, common law courts, if they don't change their status, they're still serfs. Right?
[01:28:48] Unknown:
Right.
[01:28:49] Unknown:
Well, how you ever heard of a serf going and overturning the Lord of the Manor? Yes. I don't even think that happened in the feudal system. So that's why none of those have ever had any effect because none of them are all doing it as serfs and not as freemen. You get people filing this affidavit, you got a whole different twist on this common law court stuff. Now you got teeth. Okay?
[01:29:17] Unknown:
Which makes sense. Yep.
[01:29:20] Unknown:
Well, thank you very much. It's time to turn now. Yeah. Well, Mary, come back and join us as y'all cute. Yes. As y'all go a little further and get more understanding, you'll probably have more questions. This is the place to, place to come. You've got a a a family here. I don't know how big we are. I know about we have about 50 people or so on the average on a daily basis with us live. I don't have any idea how many other people are listening over to Radio Signal, Eurofolks, or one of the other ones, How many people are listening to this in the archives? I just don't have any idea. You know?
Recently, a couple months ago, I was on with Jeff Rentz. I don't know if you know who he is. He has a pretty big nighttime radio show. He's been on the air for thirty four years or something. And, even Rents told me, he said, you have a really large audience. So that's great news to me. I didn't realize that. Although, I know there's a lot of people that listen in. They've come by. They hung around the show for a while. They got their feet under them, and then they went off and did other things, and you don't hear from them again. So, I guess that's good because that means nothing bad's happening to them. You know? If it was, believe me, when somebody gets a letter or any of that stuff, Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger. I'm the first person they come to. Okay?
So, I have to assume that we're not hearing any of that, that there's nothing happening to those people. And that would just coincide with what we teach is they can't do anything to you. You now will be super kryptonite to super parasite. Now we use that word pharasite because who we're really fighting are the Pharisees, but they're modern. They've got a lot more technology and stuff they didn't have back in Jesus' time. Man, they're parasites, So what we did was combine those two for the word parasite or parasite, and now they can't hide. See, if you try and point them out, they go hide behind the Jews. Well, now they can't go because they got their own label, Parasites.
Put it in the lexicon. Okay? Just give them a few folks, yeah, a little background on the lingo and what we do around here. Thank you, Mary. Nice to meet you. Okay. I believe you are all nice to meet you. How do I mute back? Star six to mute or unmute. Star six. Star six. Mute or unmute. Okay. Okay. Alright. Now was there somebody else who wanted to say something, or can I get back to Todd before the show ends?
[01:32:02] Unknown:
This was, Jerry.
[01:32:05] Unknown:
Calls back. Alright. Go ahead. Hey.
[01:32:08] Unknown:
No. I just a comment for that lady that was just on with that, with her daughter being, kinda handicapped. Did you tell her about that methylene blue or that benzodol?
[01:32:19] Unknown:
I didn't. I didn't, but because we're off on a different topic right now. Mary, are you familiar with methylene blue?
[01:32:31] Unknown:
No. I'm not. What is that?
[01:32:34] Unknown:
It's very interesting. It's it was the first drug ever invented back in the eighteen hundreds in Germany. It's and was used for a long time still as a as a fabric dye, but it's got some amazing qualities for your health. And it really works on the mitochondria, the energy part of the cell. And, people are reporting unbelievable results with it. That's all I can tell you.
[01:33:02] Unknown:
Alex is promoting it heavily. My problem right now is her her, when she was in the group home, the group home was doing things without my permission, and then she was on fourteen anti antipsychotics when I moved her home. Oh, my don't give her We are now down to No methylene blue.
[01:33:18] Unknown:
It it really doesn't work well with SSRIs.
[01:33:22] Unknown:
So scrap that idea. Okay? I know. I that's why I'm I'm trying to get rid of the SSRIs, but her brain damage because she she was vaccine injured from the MMR when she was four, and she had a seizure disorder her whole life. So she was on toxic levels of anti seizure meds for over twenty years. They weaned her off of it the wrong way and Depakote is one of the hardest SSRIs to come off of and it just destroyed her brain and went she just literally went crazy and I had no idea about these meds. And now she is going through what's called reactive withdrawal. So she gets, like, sharp pains in her brain because it's like pulse. It's a mess.
So I'm working with a psychiatrist, but he's not allowed to work in the state of Illinois because we're a seventy two hour hold state. So I can't get anyone to help me taper her. And if I don't taper her the right way, she'll die from the withdrawal.
[01:34:15] Unknown:
I'm so sorry. I'm just my heart bleeds for you, Mary. Yeah. This is a nightmare mess. I know it must be. Jesus. If you you may wanna look into that. And,
[01:34:24] Unknown:
class action lawsuits against these meds. Oh, I see. Drug called Risperone, which citalopram, what she's down to now, and I finally took the trazodone away, so the trazodone is gone. I'm giving her THC PHG gummies to help with sleep. I'm I'm currently getting ready to order her. It's a magnetic. It'll go under her pillow. And what it does is it basically it it almost grounds her in a sense. Right. So I'm gonna try that so that I can slowly, you know, continue to taper.
[01:35:02] Unknown:
Okay. I am so sorry. And I'm gonna I'm gonna check out this methylene blue. Okay. Well, don't do it until you get her off the SSRIs. But AJR has some real cutting edge products over there, that you might wanna go check out. They have incredible supplements. Okay. And he pioneered my methylene blue. Other people knew about it, but he's blown it out in the standpoint of people's recognition of it. But, yeah, just go over and check out, Alex and them. They've got some fabulous cutting edge products that may help her. I don't know they will, but they may. Okay? Does he have
[01:35:38] Unknown:
a website?
[01:35:39] Unknown:
Yes. The alexjonesstore.com. Are you not familiar with Alex Jones?
[01:35:46] Unknown:
Well, I can't stand that man.
[01:35:49] Unknown:
Well, I know he's abrasive and stuff, but he's he's cutting edge, and and he's got fabulous products, and he's totally supported by his audience. Okay? So you don't have to like him to, benefit from his products. There's two other very good announcers on there. One that you might particularly like is in the morning named Harrison Smith. If you've not seen Harrison, you might wanna check out. His is called The American Experience, I think. It's from, like, three hours in the morning. And then the afternoon, there's another pretty high profile young man on there, very talented, both these guys. Owen Stroyer does the afternoon show if you don't like Alex. And I understand Alex is boisterous. He keeps interrupting his guests.
He you know, I understand all the reasons people don't listen to him and watch him, and I wish he'd straighten those things out. But, maybe he'll become conscious. Well, I'm not on the Trump train at all. So I I I don't I don't participate in government at all. Alright. Well No matter what the tide it is, I'm tired of the divide. Well, then you'll listen. You'll like the guy, the first and the last guy because they're very they're not real happy with mister Trump either. Okay? So, anyway, just a suggestion. It's a great place for some real cutting edge products, and their products are exemplary.
Okay?
[01:37:11] Unknown:
Well, I know I got silver from him, the the colloidal silver, all years ago Yes. From Alex Jones.
[01:37:19] Unknown:
Right. I didn't Okay. Mary I didn't realize it was Alex Jones. Okay. With all this health stuff, I'm gonna put you on the back burner. You can come back and talk to us on any of their days. I want to try and get through your group on these questions as much as possible. Okay? We don't mind dealing with Correct. Yeah. I'm here to learn. But but we've I've we've got, what, about twenty minutes left in the show. It's gone very quick when we have these time frame. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah. I'll Fifteen seconds. Hold on. Hold on, Mary.
[01:37:50] Unknown:
Fifteen seconds before we get let go of the health completely. Go to silverlungs.com. Silverlungs.com. $300. You can get a machine to make your own colloidal silver, and it lasts a lifetime. Anyway, that's it.
[01:38:07] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Thank you. What's Todd?
[01:38:10] Unknown:
Todd. Unless is there anybody else? Todd, star six, buddy. Let's get to your questions here. Todd, are you still there?
[01:38:27] Unknown:
Did you mute? Tom? 6.
[01:38:30] Unknown:
I know you had other questions.
[01:38:33] Unknown:
I'm sorry. May I ask Hey, Rod. Real quick.
[01:38:36] Unknown:
While you wait, John, all the alright. Joan was first. Dave Am I am I here? I I you're there now. There's Kyle. Hold on. Just hold on for a second. Don't say anything. Nope. Joan? Joan, what have you got?
[01:38:50] Unknown:
Hi. I just prefer that last young lady that was on there with the with the daughter that she's helping. I just wanted to ask her or tell her that ask her if she uses Sheila yet or an or and or tell her or tell her that it's will be, I think, helpful for her daughter.
[01:39:08] Unknown:
Okay. That's one of those cup cutting edge projects of the products they've got. It's called Shilajit. It comes it oozes out of rocks in the mountains in the, the home Himalayas and stuff. And it's, they used to see animals go up and lick it. So that's why people started using it. It's supposed to have all kinds of really positive things to do for you. K? There's that. Alright. Dave was next.
[01:39:38] Unknown:
Yes, sir. I wanted to say hi to Genora and the others, but I wanted to know where she got pulled over, in Michigan and who did that to her. And, I also wanted to give an update. My wife and I both got our passport cards, in the mail. The it was in the mail when the lady called us. It was already in our mailbox, and she said she had a issue with that our birth dates were mixed up or something, and both of our cards were in the mailbox while she was on the phone. And they're both right. They're both correct. And we got them, Roger, in seven days.
[01:40:18] Unknown:
Yikes. That's real quick for a card. They said four to six weeks. Alright. Okay. Now I'm gonna devote Okay. Alright. Now you'll go to Todd who we've been trying to get his questions answered for, I don't know, last hour plus. Todd, you got your onion Oh, I'm so grateful.
[01:40:37] Unknown:
Yes, sir. I'm just first of all, I'm just so happy. A lot of my questions were already answered. I wanna just start with first because I know I only have a few minutes. So I want because I want you to end the whole thing, you know, the way you want. I'm gonna be around all the time. I got a bunch of health stuff. I had a miracle happen with myself as well. I promote health big time with herbal stuff and everything like that. But, everybody, I wanted to say thank you to all of your longtime listeners and all of your longtime people that are in here being so quiet and loving and and loving my new our new family up. And then we're gonna bring more and more every single day. That is my word, and my word is my bond.
But, so I I just wanted to thank every one of you from the bottom of my heart. This is real deal. This is no joke. Thank you for all your information. It's
[01:41:24] Unknown:
real. It's real. It works. They're scared to death of this.
[01:41:29] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:41:30] Unknown:
Unstoppable. Un un that's why you never see, they've been on me in this information the whole time I've been on the air fifteen years, fourteen and a half, whatever it is. But you've never been touched and you're still here. That's what I don't see every day every day. Well and they want you'll never hear my name because they don't wanna send people to the message. They're terrorized of it. We live Well, they're they're they're
[01:41:52] Unknown:
they're they're really, making my videos. They're not showing them to a lot of people. I can tell you that.
[01:41:58] Unknown:
But it's trying to get out there. Well, I'm just gonna gird you with a little more, of armor, and I'm gonna put now you've got Excalibur in your hands. It's still new to you. You don't really know how to use it yet. You're awkward with it. But as you grow into this, you will be able to swing it both ways. And it's razor sharp on both sides.
[01:42:20] Unknown:
And welcome to the wonderful world of shadow banning.
[01:42:25] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. Right? Oh, no. It's been I've been doing a long time. And and on that note, I well, we got to Washington DC, for our friends. We got that question answered. We got the made in name stuff. Thank you guys all very much. I can leave other questions that that are a little I was gonna go through a list because I'm letting everybody know. Sure. Sure. So We'll start. Get start giving them to us. We got time. Let's hear them. Okay. So, okay. Let's start with, so the inspector general, that's already part of the, state state house, so they don't need anything, right? No.
[01:42:59] Unknown:
Okay. You can't send it to them. Doesn't mean you can't send it to them, but that wouldn't I'm sending it to everybody, Roger. Even my librarian. Okay? Okay. That's fine.
[01:43:13] Unknown:
No. I just want here. Well, let me throw one other thing. I wanted to ask you. So everybody in my family that's in here, make sure that you go to Telegram, PPN, radio, ranch chat. Okay? And I wanted to ask you, Roger, if I instead of giving you all my handles and everything because I don't want them I don't want them necessarily I don't care about how many people except except for how many people I can help. Right? But more importantly, I want all the people that are on your team to try to if they could come into my group and help my family as even yourself, can I post my, my handles to all of my social medias on the PPN radio? I tried to email you in Telegram.
If can you answer that?
[01:43:58] Unknown:
I would post it on Murr's Chitango channel because that Okay. Could you could you spell that out for me? I will I will. Just a second. I'm gonna explain something. There's two Thank you so much. Chats. One associated with FCC. And when this session closes, all those are gone. The other is one that's set up by Merr over on chat Chat and Go or Chitango. And it's could somebody give me the address for that? Numeral2radioranch.chitango.com. Okay. Numeral 2
[01:44:35] Unknown:
Radio Ranch. Radio ranch No. Numeral two radio ranch Oh, okay. .Chattango.com. There is also Chat chat. Chat. Chat. Go. Yeah. Yeah. C H A T A N G 0. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. Okay. And there is also a PPN Radio Ranch Telegram group. All of the links to all of these resources are under other resources, and they're right underneath the the archive links, below the FCC links. You know, you go to the website, go to the FCC links, go a little lower. There's two, archive links, and then below that, there's a little group of stuff. There's, the PPN Radio Ranch Telegram group. There's Mercas, National Status Freedom Telegram group. There's the Chitango sites. There's two different chat and go mess alright, message areas. There is also a link to a docs folder that leads to a two terabyte Google Drive with all kinds of oh, yeah. Well, you've been there.
[01:45:46] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Oh, heck. Yeah. I've been everywhere on that website. I've been in that law thing. You even have a company with Andrew Van Stiel that's helping people that really can't help themselves, and they're doing it for them.
[01:45:57] Unknown:
Well, with with the the relationship with Anne is real new. We're hoping it's gonna, break into full blossom and be a very productive relationship.
[01:46:08] Unknown:
I have a couple people that are going through that, and I will let you know the status of how they do.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
I will tell you that supposedly according to Anne, that our information was presented to general Flynn last weekend in DC. We'll see where that goes.
[01:46:24] Unknown:
K? Beautiful. Now I want to talk to you about all of that. My handles for you guys to all see so you could come to my family and all on all the places and actually and share all of your amazing everybody's got everything that's ever been done in your life is brought you to this moment of nothing to regret. So all of the things everybody has different talents in here. That's why we're all students, and that's how we're I just love that that's how this growth happens. So we you know, I don't trust an attorney out there. I'm an attorney in my opinion. You don't have to be a lot lawyer to be an attorney for the law. You know, I I I don't wanna call myself an attorney, but, I mean, I could. But I don't trust anybody out there. You know? I don't It's I need the people that I trust with high status.
[01:47:06] Unknown:
We have, an attorney on with us, Todd, every Friday. We have had for about twelve years. He's a Oh, my god. That's crazy. His name's Brent Winters. His site is is commonlawyer.com. He's very prolific. He's written a bunch of books on the common law and law and all kinds of stuff.
[01:47:26] Unknown:
He's been a private Brent Winters, it was at what common law? What? At common law, what? Lawyer. Lawyer. Hold on. Oh, hold on. Commonlawyer.com.
[01:47:37] Unknown:
And he'll be with us tomorrow. Okay? I'll be there. He's translating. He's been translating his own Bible for forty years. He's quite an Oh, man. Unique individual. You'll really like him. Okay? I know. I'm excited. What I will also hold on, Paul. I'm gonna get this out if come hell or high water. You said you could only access a a few pieces of archives. They've got about I don't even know how many years over on castbox.fm. Castbox.fm. And in the search, do radio ranch, and you'll find six or eight years of archives over there. I don't know how many. Oh my god.
[01:48:22] Unknown:
I don't know if they're still up there. I'm I'm gonna check and see
[01:48:27] Unknown:
if that Why would they pull it?
[01:48:30] Unknown:
I I don't know. Let me check and see. I do have Oh, oh, yeah. I don't know. Every single that's speaking right now? This is Paul. That's Paul.
[01:48:40] Unknown:
Paul, such a pleasure to meet you. Thank you. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:48:44] Unknown:
Okay. I'm bringing up Castbox. Let's see. Radio Ranch. Nope. It's up there.
[01:48:51] Unknown:
Excellent.
[01:48:52] Unknown:
1,418 episodes. I have downloaded all of those episodes. I have not uploaded those to Pod Home yet, the Global Voice Network archive link, just because Apodom wouldn't allow me to do it because I don't own that Castbox channel. So, you know, same same BS that that locked Roger out of it. My question is, have you been on nationalstatus.com yet?
[01:49:23] Unknown:
Oh, I, I I I might have, but I can't answer that yes or no. Okay. Well, if you would have been there, you would have been,
[01:49:32] Unknown:
you would have been impressed enough with the website that it would have been indelibly written on your eyeballs. It is nationalstatus.com. Nationalstatus.com.
[01:49:48] Unknown:
If anything like that law one oh my goodness.
[01:49:52] Unknown:
Well, there's the matrixdocs.com, nationalstatus.com. They're both awesome. Brent Winter's site is common. Lawyer.com.
[01:50:04] Unknown:
And This is amazing. We're here six days a week. I hope everybody's right in the town.
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Pack of us. Going into the website. Just keep coming back. It you we go over and over it again. So you know?
[01:50:16] Unknown:
Amazing. So I guess I only have one more question. Alright. Let's hear it. Because everybody answered all the other ones. Terry got it out. Everybody okay. So born out of the country. I'm assuming they come in here. They get a, they get status, citizen status, and they just whether I don't think they get a birth certificate. I guess just that's where the starts right there for you. Right? They just Are you talking about born out of the country with at least one American parent or as a total foreigner? That's what that's I'm writing that down.
I have multiple people for born out of the country, and I gotta help them. So I'll just bring them here anyway. But If there was one parent that was an American, they qualified to be a citizen of The United States.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Then they do the change. If they're foreign born, they've gotta come in, get green card residency, and go through the whole naturalization process. As soon as they've done that, they can file an affidavit and switch statuses and truly be free. This is away from people all over the world, and we've got people from all over the world that have naturalized that are now free, and they never had a chance or a hope of ever being free where they were before they found our info.
[01:51:30] Unknown:
With that said, I'm just gonna you're never gonna get rid of me. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go out now, and I just wanna say from the bottom of my heart, Roger Sales, I'm so thankful and all of your family and all of the new family that's be coming in. I love you all, and I will see I will be on, every every time. So thank you so much. Well, Todd,
[01:51:50] Unknown:
is that a promise or a threat?
[01:51:53] Unknown:
That's a promise.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Okay. My word is my bond these days. Okay, buddy. I can't even kill a book. You know what I'm going through. Every time you come, you'll be welcome with open arms. You and your whole Oh, thank you so much. And we are I am so happy to talk to you finally. Oh my god. Well, it's such a joy, man. It's just these programs are a joy to me because this is why I started this thing, and they come not not as often as I'd like. But this is the onslaught. And I guess the person to thank here is Julie. Julie, thank you for setting up the interview with Thank you, Julie. Where all this is. Thank you, Julie. Yep. See there, Jules?
[01:52:32] Unknown:
It's it's my it's my pleasure, Roger. I told you once you got on Kevin's show that this would spread viral virally, and that is just is what is happening right now. People are getting on to his grassroots show. He, he's just, he's an amazing human being, and, I think that it's just going to multiply We just gotta get him doing it now. At an exponential rate, Roger, for you, and I'm I couldn't be happier because, honestly, I'm very honored to be here as well. God directed me to you, and if it weren't for, the divine intervention and I love everybody here too. Everybody that helped me out with my affidavits, Zora, Murr, Larry, or Mirka, Larry, everybody, and then everybody I've met afterwards. This is my family. I don't have family, Roger, like you. I have no heirs.
So I look forward to this call every single day, and if I have work I have to do, I either multitask or I try to push it off till after the show. So God bless you. She's the guy. God bless you. Roger, you and I might you and I might butt heads a little bit on president Trump and butt heads a little bit on financial issues, but overall,
[01:53:45] Unknown:
we we think alike. We're we're the same, and and I love all you guys. So I yield. And, that's pretty much I imagine everybody here would probably echo about what Julie said. Yes. Who's that? Is that Robbie?
[01:53:57] Unknown:
This is this is Gigi again. Oh, Gigi. Okay. There was a gentleman that good. There was a gentleman that just came on that asked about me from Michigan. I don't know who he was. I just wanted to find out.
[01:54:10] Unknown:
His name is Dave. He lives up in the thumb, lifelong Michigander. And, Dave, did you have something to address Gigi with?
[01:54:23] Unknown:
Dave, he's blind too, so he has a little bit of breath. I was I was just wondering, Roger, and I heard my name mentioned. What what did I miss? Well, Gigi, we're talking about you. You had, mentioned what you had mentioned something,
[01:54:36] Unknown:
when you were on Yeah.
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Where where did the where did the cops pull you over and steal all your stuff at?
[01:54:45] Unknown:
This was in Frasier, Michigan.
[01:54:47] Unknown:
Frasier.
[01:54:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Frasier.
[01:54:50] Unknown:
And What was the incident? Can you tell us what what happened?
[01:54:54] Unknown:
So they pulled me I was on my way to an event. It was, like, maybe 10:10 thirty at night, and they pulled me over in a dark area in to this dark parking lot. And, basically, I asked them why were they pulling me over. They asked my license and registration as usual, same still. And I asked them why were they pulling me over? And he said, give me your license and registration, and I'll tell you. And I said, well, what did I do? Like, I tried to get questions out of him, like, why? He said, Well, it's your license plate. And I said, Well, it's a private plate. So and then they proceed I they were coercing me, so they were harassing me so much. Even the supervisor was there and the supervisor ordered them to bust my window out and I got that. My vehicle.
In their report, they stated that I was resisting arrest, which I wasn't. I'm like, I had asked for the body cam and all of that from the state. They never sent it. I just recently re retrieved the police report this year because they the the detective said, oh, you can't get a copy of it. When I got out of jail, they said, oh, you can't get the report until the case is closed. I said, well, how am I supposed to defend myself if I don't have the report? So basically, he was like, yeah. Well, you have to, get it after the case is closed. So basically, they were putting trumped up charges on, because they were trying to coerce me to, give them a DNA sample and I refused to do it. I said I don't consent to DNA sampling. And they told me, well, by federal law, I had a obligation to give the give them a DNA sample. And if I didn't, they were just gonna add another charge that I refuse DNA sample in which they did. And then the cop told me, yeah. Let's see you get out of this. And he walked out. Snotty bastards, aren't they? If you had your affidavit on file, they wouldn't have been able to demand that. That's a
[01:57:04] Unknown:
citizen of The United States thing. If you were national, you could flip them the middle finger and tell them to shine it on.
[01:57:12] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So they had gang stopped me for a whole year. They Jesus, mate. Basically broke broke in my home and stole all my furniture. I have text messages from the bail bonds company that stated if I don't, give the money that they were coming with a truck and take the rest of my stuff. And in the event, I lost my property. I have nothing. They pretty much stole everything. My dad, it was my dad's estate. I understand. So I recently opened up my probate. Yeah. They took everything. So, I've been kinda like just kinda like moving around, like, you know, they pretty much arrested me four different times, like, I was a habitual offender. And I was Jesus. Have
[01:58:01] Unknown:
never been in any trouble with the law. Gigi, I am so sorry. What a horror story.
[01:58:06] Unknown:
I am so sorry. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. It's been a it was a nightmare.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Well, maybe, you know, with Joe Lustica, who's probably are you familiar with him? That's the guy that pioneered those tales. Oh, yeah. I know Joe. You know Joe? Okay. Well, you know Joe almost got the title back. He knows the whole story. He knows the whole your whole story?
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Yeah. He know. He sent me, he actually created my, private insurance bond for me Uh-huh. For, you know, when I got my private plate. So they they don't even wanna recognize any of that either as far as insurance. So but all the laws and stuff is in there. I got it from Joe, and he, you know,
[01:58:53] Unknown:
sent it to me. Special guy. Joe's very special in this lawyer. Yeah. I'm a tell
[01:58:58] Unknown:
you. Oh, yeah. I love Joe Listica. Yeah. I've spoken to him,
[01:59:03] Unknown:
numerous of times. Yeah. He's one of our good buddies here and drops by when he can. We're about to run out of program here, and I've got an interview this afternoon. So I'm not gonna hang around very long, but I wanna tell you gals in the Dodge group, these people stay on this thing for the god knows, it used to be till the middle of the night. So if you wanna hang around and yak with them and ask questions, they're most of them are very well, knowledgeable and should be able to help you should you wanna do that. But otherwise, in that, we're about to curtail the normal two hours of the radio show today.
I really wanna thank Todd for forming your group and and all you gals and guys coming by here. Probably some others we didn't even get to talk to or recognize today. Tomorrow, Brent Winters is with us. So I just kinda let him go, you know, generally. Sometimes we talk about law. Sometimes we talk about other stuff. He loves to pontificate on spiritual things and just a hell of a guy. You know? So he's a national treasure. So when you hear him tomorrow, I believe you'll recognize that. Okay? And, like I said, there's only a couple of Fridays we've ever missed in twelve years simply because Brent and I enjoy the show so much.
My mind feeds off his, and his mind feeds off my responses. And we've had some hellacious shows. I'll when we got a little time to kill here, girls and boys, I'll I'll tell you one, and you can remind me of, a biblical word called Korban. And I will give you the discussion that came out on that word and the shocking conclusions that we arrived at. So, anyway, we're about to end the program here. A tickle to death to have all y'all join us as often as you want, and stay as long as you feel like you need to. And, this is where you can get all your answers your questions answered. And if I can't answer it, I'll tell you I can't. K?
So I think that's, probably about it. So we'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Bye.
[02:01:18] Unknown:
Yep. We just dropped off at Euro Folk Radio. We are still on Global Voice Network. Correct. So we'll probably we'll we'll we'll we're still streaming on Global Voice Network, plus we're recording in. Plus, the, the first hour of the after show will go on radio.globalvoiceradio.net, which is the list of the most current archives. And, today, Paul English live 3PM eastern. Oh, that's true. Will also be on Global Voice. So, hey. Hang around. We're fairly well mannered, and we don't bite. So you're welcome to stay as long as you like.
[02:01:59] Unknown:
Todd, Carrie, Mary, and Gigi are the ones we spoke with today. Really nice to meet you, and welcome. Okay? So does anybody else have a a question for me today? I'm, I've got this interview here in a couple hours, and I wanna eat and do some other stuff. So anybody got something for me today? Do you have It's a delightful show. It's a delightful show. I'll be looking forward to meet to discussing things and knowing getting to know all the ones that we interacted with today and the others from your family that choose to join us. So as we say in Spanish, welcome. Yes, Paul?
[02:02:43] Unknown:
Do you do you have your connectivity and and,
[02:02:47] Unknown:
all that stuff all hands down? Well, he's got a link he sent me, so I guess so.
[02:02:52] Unknown:
A Zoom link?
[02:02:54] Unknown:
I don't know what it is. Okay.
[02:02:58] Unknown:
Well, bless you guys very much, and thank you for everything. Well, you're very welcome. Meeting you guys. Yeah. It's a hell of a a hell of a lot of people. To learning more. Join us often. I'll join as often as I can as long as Daniela will let me. Alright.
[02:03:14] Unknown:
Okay. There you go. Alright, sweetie. Well, we love you already. Okay? And, so we'll look forward to seeing you soon. Now anybody else? Because I gotta you know, I have two cups of coffee and a and a health drink before the show. And by the end of the show, that stuff's kinda gone through you. You know? So that's, oftentimes a lot of the reason I'm anxious to get out of here like I am right now. So we'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Welcome to all the new folks. Exceptionally good program today. Seems like, Paul, you ought to go dust off some of those seats in the back there.
[02:03:50] Unknown:
Okay? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. We got 2,000 more seats ready and waiting.
[02:03:55] Unknown:
Okay. So Alright. Well, the multitudes are not too far away, my sense is, and I'm tickled to death after half of my adult lifetime has been spent on this. So and I'm wonderfully pleased with all of y'all of the beneficiaries. I'll see you tomorrow. Love all of you. New people already. Ciao.
[02:04:18] Unknown:
Ciao. Alright. Like I said, we're still streaming. We're still recording. Anybody that's got any follow-up questions from the show or any new topics that they wanna venture into, have at it. I'm gonna step away for just a moment too. Thanks.
[02:04:50] Unknown:
Wait, honey. That was a really good show. A really good show. Thank you all so much. I, my heart is soaring.
[02:05:01] Unknown:
Is Julie still there? So.
[02:05:06] Unknown:
Is Julie still there?
[02:05:10] Unknown:
Hi. I'm here.
[02:05:11] Unknown:
Julie, it's Samuel. Just a little reminder, if you ask Kevin Hoyt to get that interview with Roger in front of Sam Anthony.
[02:05:21] Unknown:
Yeah. On, your news.
[02:05:24] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:05:26] Unknown:
Let me, give him a text message right now.
[02:05:31] Unknown:
Because that's where I originally heard, Kevin
[02:05:35] Unknown:
interview Sam. Him right now and ask him if he can, have that posted there. That's a good idea. Sorry. And that's all about
[02:05:43] Unknown:
citizen journalism. And you can get the local news in your area from somebody who's not the press, so called.
[02:06:05] Unknown:
Well, I'm, Todd still here. I'm also known as DWG on Earth. I just wanted to say again thank you and let you know that I'm here if I could come up with any more questions, but I would love to hear more from all the seniors. If you have anything to provide, I got a lot of family in here and more are gonna come every day. But thank you, God, from the bottom of my heart.
[02:06:29] Unknown:
Hey, Todd. I have people texting me. This is Julie. If you'd be willing to share your phone number.
[02:06:37] Unknown:
Sure. Should I do it right on lie on this live?
[02:06:41] Unknown:
Wait. Did you I have Wait. Wait. Did you dial in?
[02:06:48] Unknown:
I use the no. I'm only on, what's called FCC. So you're on the FCC app? Use the website a web code. I didn't dial in. No.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Now, Julie, are you in here, by dial up?
[02:07:07] Unknown:
I'm on dial up, but I just joined FCC so he can post,
[02:07:10] Unknown:
his his information and I can share it. Okay. So, Todd, look in the look in the, attendees list and you will find the name Julie there, And then click on the three dots next to her name and send a private message.
[02:07:29] Unknown:
Why is it it's only showing me sticks. I can't see everybody else for some reason. Really? You know what? I don't give a crap. I'll share my number and everything. I have nothing to hide, especially when I'm a natural. I'm untouchable. I don't even care. I'm deaf. Well Are the more people that call me, the more people I can get in good, healthy shape and get their minds straight so they can understand this and discern through all this. I'm sick of people getting screwed and paying all this money for bullshit lies.
[02:08:02] Unknown:
Let it rip. Let it rip, Todd.
[02:08:05] Unknown:
So Well, I'm just letting you know that we're still not only recording, we are still streaming. So if your phone number needs to get to somebody, why don't you just email it to me, and I will pass it to Julie?
[02:08:22] Unknown:
And my email address Let me okay. I just stepped up to get my herbal tea. Let me sit down, and I'll write down your email address. That sounds perfect. Me to do that? What's that?
[02:08:31] Unknown:
Or you can put it in the chat.
[02:08:34] Unknown:
I can't see the chat. I'm having I'm on the cell phone. It's a little Yeah. Me too.
[02:08:40] Unknown:
Yeah. It's just the bottom button and,
[02:08:43] Unknown:
the three buttons on the bottom left. Oh. Right? Oh, okay. I got it, guys. I got it. I got it. Says more. Okay. Let me find, this is,
[02:08:58] Unknown:
Julie. Right? Yep. You'll see me.
[02:09:01] Unknown:
Okay. Let me find Julie. Okay. I got you Julie. I'll send you a private message right now. Excellent. Thank you. Cool. Did you want my you wanted my phone number? Do you want my, my links to my, like, my Discords and my Yep.
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Okay. I'll send that all to you now. That would be great because I'm on Discord as well.
[02:09:22] Unknown:
Oh, I love it. I'd be so grateful to have you in the family. We only have about 600 or something people over there, but we've been together a long time. And, you know, I've I'm on my third channel on TikTok. It's DWG on Earth. I used to be that alone, then I went to two. Now I'm at DWG on Earth three. They don't like, the truth in health. You know what I mean?
[02:09:45] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't do TikTok because of China. Yeah. I just know they're listening to everything anyway, and you know what? I'm here. Oh, man. I just don't like China. I'm sorry. Knowing what I know about them, I try not to do anything that's made in China if I can avoid it.
[02:10:03] Unknown:
I know that. I know that's the name. I don't do China.
[02:10:06] Unknown:
I don't do China. I don't do China. No fly life no fly life for me.
[02:10:11] Unknown:
Well, I got a YouTube too. Minutes. Yep. I got a YouTube too, but I don't wanna take up the whole show. What I'll do is if anybody else wants anything from me, I'll be I'm gonna be on the phone.
[02:10:21] Unknown:
What's your YouTube?
[02:10:24] Unknown:
My YouTube is Amari
[02:10:25] Unknown:
TV. I changed that.
[02:10:28] Unknown:
A m a r I t v.
[02:10:32] Unknown:
All one all one word, no spaces? Yep. Okay. Perfect.
[02:10:37] Unknown:
Thank you. Yeah. There's I can hit about 900 over there, which was really good because YouTube's they don't like to push my stuff out at all, but I have a beautiful video over there. It's an it's like fifty six minutes. It's the whole Presley. I just love that video with Presley. Yeah. Yeah. Did you DM me? Because I didn't see any DM from you. No. No. No. I'm sorry. I was talking too much. Let me do that right now.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna do that when you keep asking questions.
[02:11:07] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a lot of problem.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
Julie, it's hard to send messages when you keep asking him questions. I'm just saying. Okay. Sorry. No. I'm not picking on you. I'm not picking on you. It's Hey, Todd. You know, I'm I'm just I'm just saying for a friend.
[02:11:24] Unknown:
Yep. So, Todd, you you and all your people should know that none of this would be possible without Paul Beener. Paul has he's the one who runs everything, all the websites, all the recordings, all the renderings of the recordings, all of the AI for the show notes and everything, and so, you know, we have a lot to be grateful, to for Paul.
[02:11:48] Unknown:
Well, god bless you, Paul.
[02:11:51] Unknown:
You're only saying that because it's true. No. Thank you, Julie.
[02:11:59] Unknown:
No. You're not too Thank you. Too, Sue. And it is true, Paul.
[02:12:03] Unknown:
We need to get your, gift then go stuff started back up again because Paul does this for free, and he's on here hours every day and then hours afterwards trying to render the videos and upload them and edit them. And that is very labor intensive, and he does all of his stuff for free.
[02:12:22] Unknown:
Let's see. Call this for.
[02:12:26] Unknown:
Yep. Radio Ranch. Woah. What? Oh, man. Give Sango took the, took the thing down again. Dang it. Oh, let's see. Republish. Campaign dashboard. Oh, it says it's published. So why didn't it come up when I tried to go there? Darn thing.
[02:13:08] Unknown:
You know what's amazing? About that Martin Armstrong article.
[02:13:18] Unknown:
Paul, I just wanna give out some information for that lady with the passport right quick. Just a couple of, CFRs. 22 CFR 51.3.
[02:13:35] Unknown:
Is this Jerry? Yeah. This is Jerry. Oh, hi, Jerry. It's me, Julie.
[02:13:40] Unknown:
Hi.
[02:13:43] Unknown:
Before that other lady that was doing her passport or whatever, she already had her passport. But just information that she can look up and do more studying. That 22 CFR51.3, and it's type of passports. And then it's it's also eight hold on. Let me let me find it. 8, FFAM
[02:14:10] Unknown:
How do you how do you do that again? Can you repeat that with letters f what?
[02:14:14] Unknown:
F a it's 8FAM.
[02:14:22] Unknown:
FAsInFrankAAsFFAsInFrankAAsInAppleMAsInMary?
[02:14:27] Unknown:
Right. Hold on a minute. I'll give it to you right off the bat.
[02:14:36] Unknown:
So, Jerry, it's 22CFR51.3 type of passport.
[02:14:43] Unknown:
Right. And then the other one is 8FAM505.2Dash10.
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Okay. So the number 8FAMFrankAppleMary505Dot2Dash10.
[02:15:11] Unknown:
Endorsement O9.
[02:15:13] Unknown:
Endorsement O9. Okay.
[02:15:21] Unknown:
And that's that's, that's the passport types, and it tells you. It says the bearer is a United States national and not a United States citizen. A. This is placed in a passport book issued to a noncitizen US National. B, US National will be printed instead of USA on the front of the passport card. C, prior to creation of the endorsement in 1992, the bearer status as a noncitizen US national was indicated by circling the word capital national or crossing out the word capital citizen in the secretary's message on the signature page of the US passport. And, of course, it lists all the other all the other endorsements, like eight, ten, eleven, twelve.
But, anyway, when you when you're filing out your filling out your passport, application at the post office, that little square box on the side, it underneath it, it has, like, four or five little, squares with letters in them. So I was just making this doing this through, when you, do your citizenship affidavit because they're gonna send you back, like, on my passport book, my all capital names. But when you sign that application, you sign it in uppercase, lowercase. Right? So you're telling them up there at the top of that right hand box in the right hand corner what you are and what you want. They're giving you that option.
Right? To let them know that you are this and you are this and what type of passport you want.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
You see what I mean? I have a quick question about the passport real quick. Can you use an expired passport? Because mine's expired. Yes.
[02:17:52] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. So, Jerry so, Jerry, I Jerry, I have to, I haven't I've done all my affidavits and everything, but I my passport is gonna be expiring soon, and so I need to do the national passport. So what do I do? Is that the DS11 that I'm gonna need?
[02:18:11] Unknown:
No. That's the 82.
[02:18:13] Unknown:
Okay. DS82.
[02:18:14] Unknown:
Okay. Right. But but it's still on the 80
[02:18:19] Unknown:
on the on the 82, it still has that little hold on. Let me see. I've got a but, anyway, go ahead with your question.
[02:18:27] Unknown:
So Do you I just need
[02:18:30] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[02:18:33] Unknown:
Would that pertain to me to, the one, about the court case I was telling them about where they took my passport and I paid for another one? Should I use my Social Security number or the passport number that they took?
[02:18:50] Unknown:
You wanna go ahead and give them that information. You don't wanna be and then once you get that but you wanna designate exactly what type of passport or who you are.
[02:19:05] Unknown:
Who you So I will have to fill out another, application?
[02:19:10] Unknown:
Yes. If you if you already had a passport, you need to fill out another DS82 because you are they already issued you a passport.
[02:19:19] Unknown:
Right. Okay. So, Jerry, do you wanna do that before it expires? You can you can do that either or. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it expires. You can do it after. It's no easier. And then how long does it take usually when you change your passport from a US citizen to a national to get it back?
[02:19:41] Unknown:
It it it shouldn't take that long. I mean, I got now don't get me wrong. I'm new at this too. I'm pretty new at this. But as I'm learning this stuff see, I have a passport application right here in front of me. It is the DS11, but the the DS82 is the same. Okay. I made it when you're done. But, anyway, right there at the very front page on that application, it has select documents for which you are submitted. A US passport book, US passport card, or both. And then right to the right side of it, it has a little brown box with it it's just white.
But underneath it is it's, letter d, the letter o, the letter s, or the letter n f r. Alright? Now the a f a m down there tells you what those letters designate. Like, d is for diplomat. Right? O is for official. I forgot what s was for, and I forgot what NFR is. I have to go back and look at it. But, anyway, on there, it there, it doesn't have the letter n. Right? So you put down there. You mark it the letter d, diplomat. Okay? And when you're going through there, it's it and, when you're filling it out right there in the bank, like, it says applicant first name. Right? Date of birth, parents, parental, mother, father, parent, guardian.
And then it says mother, father, and then it asks you, are they, what's their gender? And then it asks you, are they US citizens? You mark no. You know, I messed up and mark yes. That puts me back into that capital letter fiction name. Right.
[02:21:58] Unknown:
What happens if your, parents are deceased? Do you still list them?
[02:22:04] Unknown:
Yes. I did. I had to mine mine are deceased. My mother was born in Mexico. But you mark are they US citizens? No. They're not US citizens.
[02:22:18] Unknown:
Jerry. No. Jerry. No. Everything you no. No. Jerry. I'm gonna stop you right there. Yes, sir. Unless you actually have physical evidence that your parents were not citizens of The United States, answer that question yes. It does not put you back into this system because your political status and what system of laws you are governed under is your decision, your choice. You were presumed to be a citizen of The United States purely by virtue of the fact you were born here, and you were labeled with that stigma thanks to the fourteenth amendment. If if I can if if I could say it any other way, it's they take passport fraud very, very seriously. You have to sign the application under penalty of perjury.
And if you are absolutely positively not sure of any answer on that form, answer that bastard to the best of your ability, and then go on with life. Do not make a blanket statement that saying your parents were served automatically makes you a serf and sucks you back in there. It doesn't. Answer that question truthfully. If they were born here or naturalized here, they were citizens. And if you wanna attach a document saying, explaining, you know, you could say that your parents were citizens in The United States, but then attach a document saying that you really don't know. They have long since met their maker and it doesn't matter because your decision, your your political status is your decision, period.
So that that's all fine. Alright. When I first
[02:24:10] Unknown:
when I first did this, I sent what's called a abstract birth certificate title with my parents both my parents' name on it. My name on it, both my parents' name on it. Did you get the, mister Nathan from your job?
[02:24:26] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:24:27] Unknown:
You're mumbling.
[02:24:30] Unknown:
No. I had somebody else talking.
[02:24:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Anyway, I sent the when I first applied the d s 11.
[02:24:40] Unknown:
You off today. I wanna get stuff done. I don't wait and have money to keep.
[02:24:50] Unknown:
Somebody unmuted.
[02:24:54] Unknown:
Me?
[02:24:55] Unknown:
I think that's Yeezy. Yeezy.
[02:24:58] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I'm muted.
[02:25:02] Unknown:
I need Julie in a minute.
[02:25:13] Unknown:
Okay. There. I just republished the Gibson Go and updated the web addresses. I had exposed to matrix.com on there on supporting the Radio Ranch, and that goes to a a test bed website. So I just added the matrixdogs.com on there as well. Plus links to Global Voice Radio and, the, and the archive link, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. There. Covered.
[02:25:48] Unknown:
Julie?
[02:25:54] Unknown:
Julie? No worries. Can can you hear me?
[02:25:58] Unknown:
There you are. Can you hear me?
[02:26:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I can now can now. The answer to your question is fifteen years. Your original passport numbers and card is good for fifteen years. If they don't hear from you fifteen years post ex expiration, you've gotta switch to a d s 11.
[02:26:19] Unknown:
Okay. So what but I'm my passport that I have right now is not good for fifteen years. It's good for ten. And, I'm switching from the federal citizen over to the national. So I've been told that I need to fill out a new D s 82 for that switch in status.
[02:26:39] Unknown:
Okay. You didn't hear me. After your ten years is over, you still have fifteen years of validity in your file before they want you to file with a completely new person.
[02:26:54] Unknown:
So what does that mean? What are you telling me? I can do a d s 11?
[02:26:58] Unknown:
No. You can do a DS82.
[02:27:00] Unknown:
Your other one expired? Pardon me?
[02:27:05] Unknown:
Has your other one expired?
[02:27:07] Unknown:
It expired. It expires in August.
[02:27:10] Unknown:
'82.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
So I fill out an '82?
[02:27:15] Unknown:
Yep. Yes. Your records are kept current. I don't know how to word this. I just know what they told me. Your records are kept current fifteen years after your expiration date on your passport. Okay. I get it now. Okay.
[02:27:31] Unknown:
Thank you very much. And, is who is this speaking? Is this, Sheldon?
[02:27:36] Unknown:
Yes. It is, Donna. You have a good day. Thank you, sweetie.
[02:27:41] Unknown:
I'm done. I might call you, Sheldon, later on.
[02:27:45] Unknown:
Yeah. You missed yesterday's schedule. I was hoping you were alright.
[02:27:50] Unknown:
Yesterday, I was on the show, but but I was multitasking.
[02:27:57] Unknown:
I know. I thought the deer might've got a hold of you.
[02:28:00] Unknown:
We'll talk to you we'll talk to you later. By the way, I had the most gorgeous buck, ginormous in my backyard today.
[02:28:11] Unknown:
Do you get another picture?
[02:28:13] Unknown:
I did get a picture today after today. No. Absolutely
[02:28:17] Unknown:
gorgeous. Well well, you you gotta close that gate. You gotta keep them them them burgers out of there. They're gonna eat all your grass.
[02:28:28] Unknown:
No, Paul. It's Paul there. I have a huge, fence around my property. It's just not a privacy fence. So they can't get into my backyard, but I can see them, you know, through the fence because it's it's not a privacy fence. And so they behind my house is a huge conservation area, which is just gorgeous because of the number of trees back there. And they go and they eat the foliage back there. So, they come right up to the fence and you can see them right through and they're beautiful. But Sheldon on the other hand, this and Sheldon on the other hand has, deer that will eat out of his hand.
They will let him pet them. They are gorgeous.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we've talked about that quite a bit. And, seeing as you have a fence and they go right up to the fence, you could put, like, a little corn pile.
[02:29:23] Unknown:
A corn pile
[02:29:24] Unknown:
I put food there. I put food there for them all the time. I put vegetables and stuff back there for them. You can you can put you a little corn pile or something like that right on the other side of the fence, but you're gonna need a sign. You're gonna have to put a sign on the fence to protect yourself because they would've they might accuse you of baiting deer. So you get one of them signs that says, warning. This corn pile is here for squirrels, chipmunks, and other critters. Any deer found eating this corn will be shot. That is so that's that's fair warning to the so you're you're absolutely not baiting the deer. That's for the other critters.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
So Yeah. They can't nobody could see nobody can see what I do, on on my, fence area, so I don't need to put a sign.
[02:30:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Really? I thought that was gonna be funny. Black.
[02:30:23] Unknown:
I know. I know it was that's why I gave you that answer.
[02:30:32] Unknown:
Really Go ahead. Black rye.
[02:30:34] Unknown:
Russianite, jelly rye. Crack. You'll have them coming back every day if you give them a little slice of that.
[02:30:42] Unknown:
Of the bread? Rye?
[02:30:44] Unknown:
Rye bread?
[02:30:46] Unknown:
Jelly rye, the black rye, the Russian rye.
[02:30:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, you mean pumpernickel? Are you talking about pumpernickel? That as well.
[02:30:55] Unknown:
That as well. Wow.
[02:31:00] Unknown:
Wow. Thank you.
[02:31:03] Unknown:
You're welcome. I've got I've got some, seeded rye in the refrigerator. I bought it as day old bread for, like, 75 percent off. So that's what I've been eating, you know, coming up on payday. It's actually yummy.
[02:31:26] Unknown:
Delicious.
[02:31:28] Unknown:
Yes. My favorite, pumpernickel. I used to sit down and mow through half a loaf of pumpernickel when I was a kid. Pumpernickel and butter, that's all I needed.
[02:31:41] Unknown:
Not that I'm not a fan of bread, but, it's for voting in in the Wallach regime.
[02:31:48] Unknown:
Yeah. Well,
[02:31:51] Unknown:
Would you guys mind real quick if I ask a quick question about finances
[02:31:56] Unknown:
if you have the answer?
[02:32:04] Unknown:
What are your thoughts on Bitcoin? I have a gold and silver IRA stored in depository out of Texas Stratus Company. But I'm hearing a lot I'm I'm conflicted on Bitcoin. Did do you guys own any Bitcoin? Are you there? Yeah. I
[02:32:25] Unknown:
I have some, but I'm not sure. I don't know. There's a lot of people on here who I speak to who say Bitcoin's the wave of the future. There's a lot of people who say, no. Bitcoin is not the wave of the future. I have kind of transitioned out of Bitcoin into XLM and XRP because XRP is gonna be the cross border payment system on the blockchain, as well as XLM. And some of the ISO Gold? Some of the ISO some of the ISO two zero zero two two coins like HBAR, I have. But nobody I mean, I think cryptocurrency is gonna be your digital currency for the future. It can be tracked, surveilled, and the Genius Act is the Stablecoin Act.
And, my understanding is that, my understanding is what's going on right now is that, so you'll hear online that the, everybody's selling their treasuries, like China's dumping the treasuries and everybody's dumping the treasury bonds. What's happening right now is we're using USD Tether to soak up the foreign dumping of the treasury bonds. And these people are being paid in Tether, which is a digital form of crypto dollar, it's a stable coin. And my understanding is that we're soaking up the treasury bonds. We're not giving them the dollar, we're giving them the tether, but we're creating the tether by backing up with Bitcoin collateral. So it's very confusing here. You hear Trump saying stuff about, the sovereign wealth fund is gonna be backed by Bitcoin.
Where did The United States get that Bitcoin that was Bitcoin was seized, from other companies, my under from other countries, my understanding is for violations of executive order one three eight one eight, one three eight four eight, one three nine four nine or something, crimes against humanity and election interference. I don't have proof of that, but I just say get diversified. I would not put anything into one basket. Okay. Because I don't even understand what that says. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Everybody keeps saying that the Federal Reserve notes are going away. That is factually incorrect. You can go read the Genius Act Genius Act Genius Act right underneath it says, and ask for the issuance of stablecoins.
And so the what we're going to war. And so what they're doing right now is a repeat of the Civil War of eighteen sixty eight when we the we needed funding after the Civil War. And what they did was they made the bank by government bonds and in exchange, the, banks were allowed to issue national bank notes. And this is happening again right now. Instead, the banks are going to have to buy the government bonds and they're gonna issue stablecoins instead of banknotes. And what are the stablecoins gonna be backed by? It's right in plain English in the Genius Act. They're gonna be backed by treasury, and they're gonna be backed by Federal Reserve notes. So Federal Reserve notes are not going away, and neither are the banks like everybody's saying.
[02:35:45] Unknown:
I didn't think so. I mean, because when I was going through like, I mean, I do realize that the constitution is still under emergency orders from, from Roosevelt in 1933. Yep. And then Abe Lincoln too as well. So,
[02:36:01] Unknown:
I mean and and I just didn't understand, like, with the XRP. I don't understand what backs it. And I'm I don't wanna track your sales. I don't want them to tell me what to do. Yeah. Well, here, XRP is supposed to be backed by gold, and XLM is supposed to be backed by silver. But here's the thing, it's not backed right now, so it's just the same thing as Fiat. However, there's a big difference. Our fiat currency, our Federal Reserve notes are backed by our labor. They're backed by our houses, our collateral, if you're a US federal citizen, if you're your your property, you're owned. However, if you're a national, that's not the case anymore.
However, that being said, my understanding is that FDR sold off all of our allodial title in our land. Paul can answer this better than I can, and that we don't have allodial title to our land. So if you look at the deed of your home, you're just a tenant. If you look at how you own your property, it'll say joint tenancy, tenant in common, you know, tenant by the entirety. Your the tenant is a renter. And so I Paul knows this Right. Mine said warranty deed. Well, yeah. General and warranty deed. It's the same yeah. But it's the same thing. These general deeds are warranty deeds who don't really own the allodial title, and a lot of us in the after show are trying to get out of paying, property taxes.
And we're try and a lot of people are also trying to get allodial title and, land patent, land patent as well. And that's difficult to do because of what FDR did, in in 1933.
[02:37:38] Unknown:
I'm having a heck of a time. Yeah. I'm having a hard time. I went to the title department here in town of Mendota, Illinois, because we're on a farm at and we paid off our house a long, long time ago. But Illinois's taxes quadrupled.
[02:37:54] Unknown:
It's crazy. But that's the first time. Is this is this Gigi? Is this Gigi?
[02:37:59] Unknown:
No. This is Mary. This is Mary.
[02:38:01] Unknown:
Oh, Mary. Yeah. So, Mary, that's the same that's the same, way almost nationwide. They're doing that on purpose. They're doing this on purpose, and there there's a YouTube video on ninoscorner.tv. You have to subscribe, but it's only $4.99 a month, with this guy who explains the mortgage fraud and how they're stacking mortgages and how they're buying up, how, these international bankers are buying properties for double and triple what the asking amount is, and that's driving up property taxes and all of that stuff. It's just one big fraud. Mortgages are one big fraud because no consideration was ever transferred at settlement. They monetize your promissory note after you signed it, and that makes your mortgage fraud null and void. So again, everything that they do, including student loans and everything, the banks never transfer any consideration. If you see a check from them at settlement, there's no funds behind it, which is called check kiting, which means that again, no consideration, fraud, no null and void, and we just haven't been able to find a way to cancel these mortgages.
[02:39:14] Unknown:
Right. I'm a member of, like, nino's nino'scorner.tv. I'll go through all his videos, and then I'm also I've been I I do the yearly one. I I've been following David for years.
[02:39:26] Unknown:
I'll have to go through that. So you could go recently. There was something there was something very interesting on, you know, Corner, with a guy who and you it's the title was something about mortgage mortgages or mortgage fraud, but you'll hear about, what these people like BlackRock have been doing, buying up properties. They basically go, to one neighborhood and buy 10 homes in a row, and let's say each one, for simplicity, is worth, is being listed for a 100,000, they'll pay 200 or 300 for that, row of homes, and then they'll go to another row of homes, right near that neighborhood of similar homes and do the same thing. And that changes the comparables, for the homes. And then they'll go to a third house, just one house, and they'll over they'll pay, you know, dollars 300,000 for that home because the comparable sales prices have changed now.
That's bumping up real estate, property prices, property taxes that people are paying, and it's also bumping up property prices. And so it's just one big fraud. And then they're selling these over and over and over again, which is called mortgage stacking. It's totally unlawful, and they're getting away with this. There's just lawlessness and there's just lawlessness and fraud everywhere. That's why, Roger will recommend all the time on this show, try to stay out of the court. When you have corrupt sheriffs, corrupt judges, corrupt laws, corrupt everything, you wanna stay out of court systems if if if you can avoid it.
[02:41:01] Unknown:
Mary, do you know Yes. Who owns your 160 acres under a land patent?
[02:41:14] Unknown:
Wouldn't that be Bill Gates?
[02:41:18] Unknown:
No. No. No. If you don't you live in Illinois? Okay. Well, go to Illinois. Illinois. Yeah. Go to Illinois on your computer if you buy your computer or do it on your phone. It don't matter. Do it on Google. It'll come up. Go to Illinois section range township map.
[02:41:38] Unknown:
Okay. And when it comes up I'm in LaSalle LaSalle County.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
It it doesn't matter. Because somebody somebody back in the day was issued, right there where you live, was issued a 160 acres of land under a land patent. And over there in Illinois, they're mainly military folk. But, anyway, if you'll go to that site that I've just read you, and then just, like, there's a little section down there, and it says, you could type in your address. Okay? And when you type in your address, a little blue balloon will pinpoint you right where you're at. Alright? And then up there in the left hand corner, you'll see that little blue balloon, and it's it it'll say Southeast Quarter or the Southwest Quarter or the Northeast Quarter or whatever.
And then down after you type in your address and and and place that little balloon on top of it. Alright? And then down below it, it'll give you a township, a section, and a range. It'll be 22 like, mine is 22 South, 27 East Section 20.
[02:42:57] Unknown:
That's mine. Mine looks at What's that site to go to? I'm gonna write it down. What's that site?
[02:43:03] Unknown:
Illinois Alright. Section township range map.
[02:43:17] Unknown:
So, Jerry, you're just telling her to Google that. Right?
[02:43:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Just Google it. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it right here on my phone. Illinois.
[02:43:26] Unknown:
I'm at I'm at the grocery store, so I that's why I had to write it down. Yeah. You're shopping. I need some parsnips. I don't need Well, I need my my garden is ready, so I gotta cook these vegetables so that I'm making beef vegetable soup to freeze for the, for the winter.
[02:43:47] Unknown:
Mary?
[02:43:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:43:50] Unknown:
May I call you later, please?
[02:43:53] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:43:54] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks, hon. Have a good day shopping. Everybody needs retail therapy with a weekend coming.
[02:44:01] Unknown:
Okay. I've got it up. Illinois section township range map. And it's at the top, it says randymajors.org. Click on that one. It's Illinois Section, township, range, and it'll come up. And then up there now, Julie, yours is different, but it's still under the same thing because you're, I I don't know, in Virginia or somewhere. But it's still the same thing. I'm in Virginia. Yeah. But it'll still come up. You you were because you were part of the first original colonies. Yep. But it's still under the same thing. Alright? I don't think so. Part of you. No. Thanks. A hard time looking up yours.
[02:44:58] Unknown:
Anyway, I'm just Okay. I'm on I'm on here. What do we do? I'm on here. I see the blue button. Hold hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Alright.
[02:45:06] Unknown:
I'll tear never get Go ahead.
[02:45:11] Unknown:
Let me get to I'm I'm on it now. Now it's turning red. Did yours turn red? Yep. All little red blocks.
[02:45:19] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:45:21] Unknown:
But you're in Virginia. Right? But, anyway alright. So now down there, it says search places. Type in your address. And, Mary, whatever yours I don't know what it is. Whatever it is. Did I type in a address in Virginia too here on here? Yes.
[02:45:52] Unknown:
Okay. I did it.
[02:45:54] Unknown:
Okay. Now that little blue balloon will pop up somewhere in them little red squares.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
I don't have any. I I it says Virginia does not use township range.
[02:46:08] Unknown:
Okay. I should not try to tell you.
[02:46:11] Unknown:
But now
[02:46:13] Unknown:
failure. Don't use that.
[02:46:15] Unknown:
I mean, Julie, now go as close as you can get to one of them red squares. Oh, Virginia. Yeah. That's right. But Virginia still operates under the same system to find your land patent.
[02:46:27] Unknown:
No. It does not. Virginia was issued
[02:46:30] Unknown:
issued land patents. Anyways, Mary, this is for you, Mary.
[02:46:35] Unknown:
It does not.
[02:46:38] Unknown:
Julie.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:40] Unknown:
Julie, the original 13 colonies issued their own lands. They were state issued lands. They did not come under the, public land survey system. That's only for the former territories, North Of The Ohio and West Of The Mississippi.
[02:46:58] Unknown:
Okay. Can you repeat that again, please? Can you repeat that again?
[02:47:03] Unknown:
Virginia issued their own land, not the federal government. It's not under the public land survey system. Neither is Georgia or South Carolina or North Carolina. All the original 13 states issued their own lands because they came directly from, the Treaty of Peace in 1783 from England.
[02:47:26] Unknown:
They were not Treaty of what? Treaty of what?
[02:47:30] Unknown:
Treaty of 1783. Treaty of peace. England gave the land directly to the states, and each state is listed independently. They did not go through the federal government like the federal land survey, Public Land Services.
[02:47:45] Unknown:
Well, that's good for me. Right?
[02:47:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Virginia. Rick Rick, wouldn't you wouldn't you agree that, Virginia and and many of the other states are already on. Those surveys were measured by payment information from liberty, and I paid it.
[02:48:07] Unknown:
Let Joe
[02:48:10] Unknown:
meets and bounds.
[02:48:13] Unknown:
That is correct. Promotion of Georgia did not get
[02:48:18] Unknown:
This is for Mary. This is for Mary only. The my other ones, I'm not worried about. Okay? This is for Mary only. Mary, this is how you do it. Alright? You type in your address up there in Illinois, and your address will come up, and it'll it'll take you to where your land who owns your 160 acres. This is for Mary only. Okay.
[02:48:40] Unknown:
Alright? Yeah. Because, I mean, I'm I'm gonna go check it out because I need to know because I'm I'm they I went to the it's called Specials Title Company, and they're just giving me the runaround. It cost me, like, $250 because Yeah. Yeah. I want my land. Okay.
[02:48:55] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm trying to help you. First, you gotta find your land pad. Thank you. Okay. First, find that land pad. And then your your warranty deed has you listed as a joint tenant, but your warranty deed is the you we consider it a title regardless. Whatever we consider that, oh, I paid my house off. I paid my land off. Here's my title under the warranty deed. No. It's just an equity interest that you have on the on the surface, on the buildings and what have you. It's just an equity interest. You don't own the land. That land that you're on was issued to somebody back when whenever it was. And you want me to find it for you? Give me your address, and I'll find it for you real quick.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
47 Alright. Hold on. 4747.
[02:49:45] Unknown:
1212.
[02:49:47] Unknown:
East East.
[02:49:50] Unknown:
Fifth Fifth, 5, Numeral, 5 T H, Road Okay.
[02:49:55] Unknown:
Mendota, M E N D O D A. Hold on. I I got it already. I got it. 4712 East Road, Mendota, Illinois, USA. Alright? It's it's now on Road. It doesn't matter. It's alright. Okay. I've got alright. So here, write down this one. If you're beside a pen Okay. There. Let me write I'm gonna write down to you. Alright. You're in you're in Section 20. I'm sorry. Section 26, Township 39 North, Range 8 West. That's where you're at. Okay.
[02:50:43] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:50:47] Unknown:
Oh, hold on.
[02:50:50] Unknown:
Let me exit out of this.
[02:50:54] Unknown:
Okay. So then I I need to I need to write it down because I'll I'll forget what it is. But, anyway, I'll ask your handyman. Okay. Alright. That's that's your that's from you're running out there? We need it too. Yeah. Okay. I got you right here in my sights. And I I just gave you your
[02:51:25] Unknown:
Yep. I got Section 26 Township 39 North Range 8 West.
[02:51:30] Unknown:
That's it. Alright. So now you you get out of that. Go back and then go to department of interior. Department
[02:51:45] Unknown:
of interior.
[02:51:49] Unknown:
Okay. And it'll it'll come up the United States Department of Interior. And down there, they have little blue things, and it says Bureau of Land Management. Click on that.
[02:52:01] Unknown:
Gill of Land Management?
[02:52:04] Unknown:
Bureau?
[02:52:06] Unknown:
Bureau. Oh, I'm sorry. Bureau. Yes.
[02:52:11] Unknown:
Okay. Land Management. Management. Get you the sale taken care of. Alright. Now up there in the, in the top right hand corner, there's three little lines. Yeah. There it is. And if somebody works Click on that. Yeah. And it'll come up a index. Click on services.
[02:52:36] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:52:40] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. And it says it it comes up a page and go down go down and it says land records. So
[02:52:49] Unknown:
yeah. Understand. Okay.
[02:52:58] Unknown:
Go down, and it says general land office Hey. It sounds like Bruce has got his phone unmuted. Sale a couple of Right under that first paragraph, there's a little blue thing that says GLO.
[02:53:16] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:53:18] Unknown:
Click on that. Did you click on it?
[02:53:21] Unknown:
Well, no. I'm writing all this down because I was in the store.
[02:53:25] Unknown:
Okay. That's fine. Okay. Now when you click on that, it'll come up. In the top left hand corner under that first paragraph, it'll say land patents Okay. In little small letters. Click on that, and it'll bring you to a page that has it it'll bring you to a page at the very top. It has state, county, name, first name, last name, middle name. Alright. But you just put Illinois. Okay? I'm gonna I'm doing it for you right here. Alright. And don't put nobody's name in it. Just put Illinois. And down there, where it like, the third box down, it says township.
Put the township. What was it? 26
[02:54:19] Unknown:
Yep. It's North? Township 39 North. Yep.
[02:54:24] Unknown:
39. Okay. Hold on. 39 North range. What's the range?
[02:54:35] Unknown:
8 West.
[02:54:37] Unknown:
8 West. And what's the what's the section?
[02:54:43] Unknown:
26.
[02:54:45] Unknown:
26. Okay. Just put that in, and then right underneath that, it says search patents, and just hit that button. It says search patents. Oh, no matching record. Hold on. Oh, it went I'm sorry. It went back to Alabama. I have to do it again. Illinois, 39 North. What was the range?
[02:55:18] Unknown:
8 West.
[02:55:20] Unknown:
8 West. And the section?
[02:55:27] Unknown:
26.
[02:55:29] Unknown:
26. Okay. And then on. It it's not coming up. I'm not getting no, I'm not getting any matches. And that that's how you do it. Okay? I wonder why. I might I might have wrote something wrong on the
[02:55:47] Unknown:
I wonder okay. Because the house sits on three acres. But part of my three acres goes into the cornfield. So the Kerns own the farm itself.
[02:56:03] Unknown:
That's the Kerns family. It says So they they Well,
[02:56:07] Unknown:
hold on. Hold on. It says that you're in Missouri.
[02:56:14] Unknown:
Oh, I'm in Mendota, Illinois. Was in the wreck.
[02:56:22] Unknown:
4712 East Fifth Road, Mendota, Illinois?
[02:56:29] Unknown:
Yep. 61342 is my ZIP code.
[02:56:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't even know that. I I when I typed you in, it came up.
[02:56:38] Unknown:
Well, does it come up you did the the numeral 5 T H. Don't spell out Fifth Road. It's a numeral.
[02:56:47] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. But I did that. Weird.
[02:56:53] Unknown:
You should've listened.
[02:57:24] Unknown:
Julie. Martin Armstrong. See if that raises her.
[02:57:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Martin Armstrong. Did you say something?
[02:57:35] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I sent that, that statement about his 08/1863 reference to the banking act. Yep. Boris Boris answered back. Yeah. Because I'm a Telegram group. He goes, yeah. Too bad he didn't mention that they bought it all. They bought us us and the nation with the 1863 banking act. Yeah. There's individual SESTA key, but then there's a national SESTA key. And, that's kinda
[02:58:06] Unknown:
what we don't always all understand, you know. So Well, there's, two sets of kVs, a legacy trust. There's one in your individual name and one in your corporate name is my understanding.
[02:58:16] Unknown:
But the nation has a trust. The nation's in a trust.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
So Well, yeah. That's true. The government is that the government's in a trust, but your, CUSIC number, my understanding, has been merged with everybody else's so that you can't can't to to deceive us, which was basically unlawful on what they did.
[02:58:36] Unknown:
Right. The, because the Gettysburg address was basically a restatement across the it's a guy out of Spokane in the Northwest. It might have been in Oregon, but it's called Hartford Van Dyke. He actually just died out of this year, but he he actually has an article out there about the the statement of the Gettysburg, to address being a trust just like the Lord's prayers of trust in Psalm 23 is a trust. Pretty interesting. So when you look at the Gettysburg address, it's it's actually restating the declaration of independence trust. So, anyway, it's, there is national trust there. Just, like you said, it's a matter of, Well how how that how that affects, you know because everything
[02:59:19] Unknown:
should be, you know, the use of fraud should be handled by that trust. And Well, my understanding is that my understanding is that your Social Security agreement connects to the Federal Reserve account number, which is a letter with eight digits, which is found on the backside of your Social Security card. And your only true bank account is your legacy account, where you bank your lifetime labor with the United States Treasury. And they are the ones that hire the private Federal Reserve Bank to regulate your account spending. So all of these banks, so called banks are just basically transmitting or public utilities where you the depositor, use to pay your bills and your presentments, and your local banker is not even going to know what that is.
So, you know, the United States court system is run by the bar, the British accredited registry members, and it's all unlawful and so evil.
[03:00:40] Unknown:
Well, not really. It's just going to peace with them. You you you could reference everything back to the Social Security number. That's the banking number. So if you're, going to peace with them, you're agreeing and and appointing the interest the right way at the county level. I don't see how they can't, you know, can you can you send that in? I don't see how they can't can't recognize that because it's it would be under the law of nations and The Hague, which is bigger than than they are. So, at the at the assumptions or or the presumptions are operating with you right, they can kinda do whatever they're doing.
But I think once that once that is clarified, I don't know how they could they could, continue to to operate without, you know, fraud fraudulently within that trust. So but that's my take on it anyway.
[03:01:37] Unknown:
So, George, my understanding, though, is that you're supposed to be able to send a presentment in commerce, otherwise known as a bill, to your banker banker, which would be the United States Treasury, for example, the Internal Revenue Service and have them electronically settle the liability for you, which is, acceptance for value because you've already paid for everything, because the trustees are using and investing our future labor deposited funds into the world economy. But, they're not recognizing that. That's why I say it's lawless. They're not they're not they're supposed to, but they're not. They're just disregarding everything, just like the fourteenth Amendment was never properly ratified.
They're still running it as though it were. Like, the sixteenth amendment never ratified, and they're still running it as if it were. Just utter lawlessness.
[03:02:41] Unknown:
Well, the congressional code of 1967 already says that the fourteenth amendment is unconstitutional, that not yet congress. Anyway, Mary, alright. I got you now. You're in you're in LaSalle County.
[03:02:57] Unknown:
Correct. I'm in LaSalle County.
[03:03:00] Unknown:
Yeah. How did I find that out? 1234567. So you've got seven possible hits. All of them in LaSalle County. All that land was issued from 1854 or 1848 up until nineteen o six. Wow. And all all of them are in you're you're in a Section 1, Township 36 North Range 1 East. And you got like I said, you got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven possible hits. And all of them are military, looks like, except one. The very first one, Cyrus out. And I'm gonna go to that one, and that's 1854.
[03:03:54] Unknown:
1854?
[03:03:56] Unknown:
Yeah. And his his name is Cyrus. What range is that? Hold on a minute. Let me let me finish this. Alright. So this gentleman, for a 159.56 acres, paid cash out of his pocket in in 1854. That's how this gentleman, Cyrus Aldridge, Paid all pages. That that may not be your guy because, like I said, you got seven or eight hits, seven land patent titles. Alright. Now I'm pulling up I just pulled up his, land patent, a title. It's what's called an title under the land patent issued to this gentleman from The United States Of America for as this Cyrus Aldridge of Lee County, Illinois was issued this hundred and fifty nine point, I can't read it, but acres.
And he wasn't issued. He bought it out of his pocket.
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And it's signed Well, Lee County, I'm just a half a mile from Lee County.
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Mhmm. Literally half a mile from Lee County. Yeah. Yeah. The county where he got this land alright. Alright. So you have another fellow here, William Hall, in in 1848, was issued 40 acres. He was in a he was, under a captain Hunt's company in the third regiment in Louisiana volunteers. So he was a military guy, and they issued him under a warrant, 40 acres for doing his service in the military in 1848. That's the second guy. The third guy Okay. He was a private in the United States Marine in 1850 with under the script warrant was issued a 160 acres, and he was under the direction of a some captain, Obed w Bryant.
That's just the third land patent. Here's the fourth land patent. Another military guy was issued a 159 acres. He was a private in The United States. That's all it says. In in 1851, he was issued a 159.56 acres. The next guy, another military man, was also issued a 159.6 acres, but it doesn't say what he was, what kind what he did. They might've issued it to his widowed wife. Let's look at that one. See. I'm gonna look up his land patent right now. Okay. Here it comes. It said Martin Ingris, father, heir at law of John Ingris. He's an heirs, so they issued it to one of his heirs.
So, apparently, he got killed in whatever war he was in. And then to his kids, they issued it They issued this 159.56 acres to one of his heirs. Alright. The the next one. Oh, that was the same one. I'm sorry. John White. John what? White. Like white White. Alright. So this guy was in captain, Casewell's company of the first regiment in Tennessee, Calvary in 1849.
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Let me call you. They issued him
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they issued him a 159.3 acres of land. Alright. So the at the very top of these documents, it says the date of issue, where it was issued to in Illinois, and then those other documents say what county. Alright? But if you scroll, have these documents since 1849 ever been canceled to 2025? And it'll tell you right there, no. This is official US government document that has never been canceled since 1849. A 159.3 acres. And then if we look at the land patent itself, It says issued to this gentleman let me see. John White, private and captain Casewell's military first regiment Tennessee volunteers to whoever to whoever gives a hoot. I don't I don't really give a hoot.
That this land was issued to this gentleman, and then if you go down there to have and to hold with everything on this section of land with everything on it, water, gold, silver, copper, trucks, weeds, trees, I don't care what it is, And to his heirs and assigns forever since 1849. Well well, I'm standing right here in Carlsbad, New Mexico under a pecan tree has forever ended. No. Now you're an assignee under this gentleman's not maybe not this one, but one of the mother, seven. Okay? You can pinpoint right where you're at. Now you have a warranty deed, and you think that's your title. That's why you go to a title company and you say, hey. Can you look up how far back these titles or who owned this property before I did and blah blah blah blah blah. Right?
And they'll say, oh, I can't do that. Okay. But they even if you do find a title company that'll search back the title company, there's a break in there that they won't go back all the way to the land patent because, like, I think it was Julie was saying, they confiscated The United States confiscated all these patents that were originally issued to all these gentlemen, not just them, all through the nation, even when the even when the America was a a territory. Okay? They were issued to women. They were issued to whoever. They were issued to widows of military folk.
But they were issued to them, and that became their title. Alright? We come along and we buy this property. Oh, hey. Hey. It's a for sale sign in front of real estate. Okay. A real estate company is selling this property. But what they don't tell you is they're only selling the buildings in the house that are on top of it. They can't sell you the land because the land was already issued under the 1862 Land Act of 1862 that disposed the land through the constitution of The United States Of America to all the people in the territory, in American territory, all the way back to 1849.
Alright? America was already America in 1776, but in 1849, these all they after the after get people to come and fight the Indian War, the Mexican War, the Revolutionary War, the whatever war. They issued people that died in in service. So they've issued the land patent to their heirs, to their widows, to their kids, whatever. And it says to their heirs this one says to his heirs and assigns forever. I come along and buy this real estate property. I pay cash for it. Right? And they give me what's called a warranty deed, and I think, oh, it's the title. My wife said, oh, look. I got the title right here. I didn't know. Low and behold, it's not the title.
That makes me a joint tenant. What's a tenant? A tenant is a renter, in fact. Alright? So it says I'm a joint tenant. Well, my wife is my wife. She's not my tenant. I don't charge her rent to live somewhere. This so if I'm a tenant, I have to pay a landlord because I'm a tenant of this real estate. Who's that landlord that I'm paying if I had the title in my hand? The county, the city, municipality, the government. I'm a joint tenant with the government. That's why under the imminent domain, they can come and steal your property unless you bring your land patent title, a load deal title, free and clear of anything, taxes, whatever, up as an assignee of that land patent to you.
My land patent is number 570. Alright? I live in Carlsbad, New Mexico. My the front the street right in front of my front door across the street is. A block over one one block over is Joshua Street. Alright. So that Joshua Street is about a quarter of a mile long, and it dead ends. Geikindall is about a quarter of a mile long, and it dead ends. Well, low and behold, I start looking up who owns my 160 acres of land. It's not mine. I I only own a a acre and a quarter of it because that's what I got my name on, an acre and a quarter of now my land patent was issued to this gentleman in nineteen o four.
Alright? New Mexico didn't become a state until 1912, so it was still it was New Mexico territory when they issued this man, and he paid cash out of his pocket. Others are homestead or or script warrant military or or, there's there's, like, 11 or 12 of them. But, anyway, I'm just saying. Alright. So lo and behold, I start looking up who owns my land, my acre and a quarter. And on that land patent is his name is Joshua. That's a block away over there is his first name, Joshua Street. Right in front of my door is his last name, Okay?
So I said, what he owns and, he bought he paid cash out of his pocket for a 160 acres right here to to have and to hold in nineteen o four. So what I did is I brought that land patent. I'm an assignee now on that land patent. But that land patent is not in my name. It's in his name And to his heirs. Now if any one of his heirs ever got wind of all these people, there's the fraud. That's that's where the fraud comes in. I bought this property under fraudulent pretenses on a contract, which which article one section 10 plus one states that no state shall obligate the, ability of a contract or that's in the constitution of The United States Of America.
Article one, section 10, clause one. No state. But as a citizen and a resident of The United States, I don't live here. Now I do because I've I've done my affidavit and all that baloney. Right? But if I had not done that, they can come over here and steal anything, anything they want to because none of it belongs to me because I don't have the original title, Because I don't have the land patent title. Because I don't have the the original title to my cars or my trucks or my motorcycles. Who who has them? The government. That's why I have to put a a license plate. The license plate doesn't belong to me. That number is registered registered to me.
Now if I had the original title, land patent title, in my name recorded, a warranty deed is registered down there at the county. That's why they're, that's why they can come and tax tax you to debt. Take and that's why they can come and take your property because it doesn't belong to you. It belongs to them through fraud. But you gotta bring that land patent, that one one of those guys is yours, whether it's this John
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White,
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or any one of them. And I know I sound like a lunatic, but the 12 presumptions of court number seven say I'm a pauper and a lunatic. Sorry about that. I was rambling. I hope I didn't run every one of y'all off.
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No, Jerry. You're gonna ramble in and run me off. Is this Bruce?
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I couldn't unmute the darn phone.
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Is this Bruce that was talking?
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That's that was Jerry talking, and this is Dave. Oh, okay.
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Yeah. I don't know how, that's interesting about land patents. I don't know
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if they
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if the land patent goes back, but then they bought everything in 1863, including all the work that we'll do as well as all of the land. I don't know how you cure that just with a land patent. Don't don't know. Don't know about that yet.
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Well, you gotta go back all the way to when when they started doing it because the king in England, he was the one that issued the land to his serfs. The land patent becomes the highest evidence of title, and it can't be the government cannot collateralize it, attack it?
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Comment. Comment. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, But until you prove that title up, all you have is this piece of paper. Exactly. That you have to prove it up and make sure you have to go all the way back to the patent and bring check every entry to make every mortgage or assignment or whatever has been satisfied and places no cloud on the time.
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Exactly.
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And I and and I contend I contend if you can do that, you file a quiet title action on that piece of property in the district court. And you don't make any big issue of it. You just now I've not done this. I'm prepared to do it when I get some time. But, once you get that accomplished, you file the quiet title action and get the stamp of the district court to say that there are no encumbrances of any kind on this piece of property. And with that, then you then the county has no claim. But you don't That's what I did. What you don't waive that in their face. Right. No. I'm not waving it. That that no. I'm not saying you are, but, for those that are listening, it's just one of those things that you do very subdued and, but that'll work. I guarantee.
Yeah. I guarantee. I promise you it'll work.
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That's that's what I did.
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Alright. So now here's here's one for you. I'm gonna Have you have you have you have just a minute. Like with the Wait. Have you done the quiet title action?
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Yes.
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You did a quiet title action in district court?
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In district court. Yeah. Actually, it's probate court, not district.
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And you have paperwork to show that?
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I got all the paperwork. I got everything. I would love
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to see that. I would love to see that.
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I got a stamp. I got the, probate court stamp. But anyway Good. Good for you. Let me let me read this to you. Property tax, unconstitutional. Land untaxable by the state. The original the original constitution of any state provided that the lands of any state are untaxable. Article two section two reads as follows. Section two, the propositions contained in the act of congress are hereby assessed, ratified, and confirmed, and shall remain irrevocable without the consent of The United States. And it is hereby ordained that this state shall never interfere with the primary disposal of the soil within the same by The United States nor with any regulations Congress may find necessary for securing the title in such soil to bonafide purchasers purchasers owe thereof, and no tax shall be imposed on land.
Sergeant versus Herrick b Stevens Ann Stevens, Northern Pacific Railroad Company versus Truett County, Town Of Saint John versus State Board of Tax Commissioners, 19 that's a newer one, 1996. So here, these court cases are saying that property taxes are unconstitutional. But yet, we hit the the tax assesses come knocking on the door. Hey. You didn't pay your taxes this year. My neighbor just got up. They haven't paid their taxes in, like, four or five years, and they just got my next door neighbor is about, 50 yards away over there.
That tax person came I got the pictures on my phone for they came driving up and looking for the address, and then they stopped right in front of her house. And they handed her a paper and then walked off. I said, you didn't ask them any questions? No. They said we owe taxes and oh, yeah. Well,
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I guess. I don't know. So, Jerry, are you is it Jerry, are you not paying property taxes anymore? No. How do how can we see your paperwork?
[03:26:08] Unknown:
I could, I don't know. I I don't have a computer. That's my bad. I'm on my phone.
[03:26:14] Unknown:
Can you text the paperwork to me?
[03:26:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I can text I can I can text some some of it to you?
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So I'll give you my cell so you can text it to me.
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Okay. Hold on. And I I did this all this stuff myself, not without no lawyer or attorney or hold on.
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And you're in California and you pay no taxes, Jerry? I'm I'm I'm in New Mexico. Carlsbad, New Mexico. Oh, wow.
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Jerry, and I agree with you on you doing that yourself because lawyers and title companies make mistakes. Yep. And therefore therefore, it behooves you to prove this title up yourself and to understand that it's good exercise mentally and, save you a lot of money too.
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Is this Bruce speaking?
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Joe in Oklahoma.
[03:27:22] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Joe. Yeah. I gotta I gotta email you.
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If you, if you get that, if Jerry doesn't mind, I'd like to see that. Could you send that to me? I have your I have your email.
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What I can do is I can he texts it to me. I can put it in a PDF document and email it to you, Joe. If he doesn't mind, I'd appreciate it. So, I don't mind. So, Jerry, let me give you can you text me your figure out this. Yeah. So, Jerry, if you don't have a computer, how did you do all this stuff then? Did you just do it by hand on paper?
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On paper. I went to the library and typed it all myself at the library. Wow. And I and I all I have is a third grade education, and it took me hours now. But it didn't really take me that long, you know, once I got started. That's the way I put my title up. I had I don't have the
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patents on it yet, but, that's the way I did mine. Go to the long library or the county recorder and sit down and start studying.
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Yeah. But I think, Joe, I think mine.
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Joe, I think mine's gonna be different because weren't you the one telling me earlier that, because I'm was I'm in Virginia, and I'm one of the original, you know, colonies that my process will be different?
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Process won't be different. It's your the the way your property is described originally was surveyed by meets and bounds. Okay. In other words, you go 500 feet from this rock and then a thousand feet to that tree, yada dada.
[03:29:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm an I understand that. I'm a real estate broker and my, all the deeds that I've had on my properties over the years have been, two by meets and bounds as well as by the actual
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original document transferring that land to an individual, be it from the crown or the federal government.
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Okay. The first the first the first land patent issued was over there, you know, in Maryland somewhere. And it was in '8, 1789, I think. The first original, and it was issued to, an official of the government. I forgot what his name was. In 1789.
[03:30:00] Unknown:
Okay. So, Jerry, are you ready for my cell phone? Yes. It's (202) 579-9966.
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Okay.
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You got it?
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Yep.
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Yeah. If you could check I really wanna do this. I mean, literally, we should be teaching everybody how to get out of property tax taxes because the way this other guy is teaching people is to put your house in a trust and then, pay your taxes for one year and then don't record it at the county because when you record, any sale or any transfer or any deed at the county, then you're basically volunteering to pay excise taxes, and that's what property taxes are disguised as excise taxes. But if there's a better way to get out of this, like you have, I'd rather do it your way.
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Right. Well, you know, what I what I did is I, basically put Ron Gibson, god rest his soul on. I'm just saying.
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But over and over those You're breaking up, Gary. You're breaking up.
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I apologize. God rest whose soul? Ron Gibson. You know, he passed away.
[03:31:19] Unknown:
Who?
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Ron Gibson. Ron.
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Oh, Gibson. Okay. Alright. I did all that through him. Not not through him, but
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Yeah. Anybody that wants to be interested in land patents should get his book.
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What's it called?
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What you need to know about land patents.
[03:31:47] Unknown:
Okay. I didn't know that. It I'll get it on Amazon.
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And you're not a slave. Well, you have to order them from him. They're not on Amazon. And you can still order them from him.
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Where do I get it, Jerry?
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Hold on. I'll get it. I'll get the information for you.
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Jerry, you mind if if Julie sends that to me as well?
[03:32:09] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I don't mind. Send it to everybody. Send it to the world.
[03:32:12] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll get everything into a PDF document and send it to all you guys.
[03:32:16] Unknown:
This is Dave and the thumb. Hi, Dave. It's called hi, Julie.
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What you need to know about land patents, and you're not a slave. And I think his son has taken over the
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That's the other book. He's got another book, Jerry, called what you need to know about land.
[03:32:40] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's what I just read. The the What you need to know is land patents, and you're not a slave.
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The problem I have is Ron Gibson. You have
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to do your own due diligence. You have to be your own man. I'm not I'm just Ron Gibson. I read and read and read and read and red. And I don't I don't need Ron Gibson to come defend me from these tyrannical evil people.
[03:33:14] Unknown:
The problem I deal. The problem I have with Ron Gibson is him telling you for your public notice, about quieting the title of going to the water treatment plant or the laundromat or these inconspicuous places. And the only way you can let put out a legal notice is in the paper of record for the county you live in.
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Right.
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It has to be. And, you know, that's I talked to him, paid him some pretty good money for an hour's conversation with him, and I agree with him for the most part. But that going to the water treatment plant really did.
[03:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I disagree with that, but you gotta understand too that Von Gibson was also an a lawyer and an attorney, and he was what basically, what he just taught me was that I need to stand up for for my land. My land. Not nobody. Not my neighbors. Even though it's on the same 160 acres as it as it neighbor. That neighbor alright. You wanna pay your taxes? You know, go ahead. Do, you know, do what you want to do. Me? I'd I'm I'm tired of them scamming, ripping us off, telling us, oh, you're my slave. You have to. Or we're not or we're not gonna do this. Okay. Well, don't do it. Get off get off my property. Or the city coming over here and telling me that this this 12 inch weed right here, because it's a 12 inch weed that I'm standing right over, that's against the city ordinance.
Oh, what what what ordinances got to do? Oh, you gotta respect your neighbors. I respect my neighbors. I've I've been living here for for almost forty years out here in the same spot. I never had no issues with any of my neighbors. Who, so I think Ron's
[03:35:25] Unknown:
I think Ron's biggest Achilles' heel was the the fact that he didn't really have written into this book the, this state's status of the person. I think that was the main thing that, keep popping up later in life and, he applied it somewhat. But, I think that's that's the key to own own land. We you can't be a feudal slave.
[03:35:58] Unknown:
Well, I don't I don't I don't know about the key to being them. But, like, these are like, the government has already labeled every one of us as their property. And in all their paperwork, all their fraudulent paperwork, property cannot own property. And that's that's the Jerry?
[03:36:26] Unknown:
Hello? Can you hear me? Hello? Yes. Yeah. I just found, the whole entire 359 pages, what you need to know about land patents by, Ron Gibson.
[03:36:41] Unknown:
Okay. Now now see if you can download the other one.
[03:36:46] Unknown:
What's the other one again?
[03:36:48] Unknown:
You are not a slave.
[03:36:50] Unknown:
Okay. Let me see. Let me first, email this to me. Hold on here. So I have it.
[03:36:59] Unknown:
This is just a reference. It's not it's not a how do I say?
[03:37:06] Unknown:
So you learned everything from Ron Gibson.
[03:37:09] Unknown:
No. Not just Ron. I mean, not just Ron. I mean, I I learned a lot of stuff when I started digging. When I started digging into all this, and I didn't even I didn't even know who Ron or or Roger or any anyone was. Even you guys, I didn't know. But I started listening and paying attention and doing my research and reading and reading and reading and I said, how does this work? How does this work? And then I come to find out the more reading I did I was born in Texas. Right? I live in Carlsbad, New Mexico, Eddy County. Right? So the more I started digging and digging, and then I came across this, and then I came across that, and then finally, I came across I just I came across one of gifts not that long ago.
Maybe in 2022 maybe. Anyway,
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so I thought I'm trying to find, You Are Not a Slave. I'm sorry to interrupt you. So it's it's called You Are Not a Slave. Is that by Ron Gibson too?
[03:38:13] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:38:14] Unknown:
I don't I think it's a different title.
[03:38:20] Unknown:
No. It's You Are Not A Slave by Ron Gibson. It is? Okay. Hold on here.
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I don't know if I can find that one.
[03:38:36] Unknown:
He he he brings it up on a anyway, Ron Gibson's got some good, and then I'm I'm I'm just saying. I I go by Ron Gibson, and I and I over and over and over until I learn me, like Roger says, you need to go over this information. I listen to Roger over and over and over. Even though some of it is redundant and it go he goes over the same stuff over and over, it helps me to stand firm. The Bible tells us to stand firm in your convictions. It doesn't mean it doesn't say stand firm behind Ron Gibson. Stand firm behind Roger Sales. Stand firm behind Paul Beener. Stand firm. No. Help each other to stand firm in your convictions.
[03:39:27] Unknown:
So, what was I gonna say? He's got a bunch of YouTube videos, where you are not a slave, and it's got land patents number part one, land patents part two. It's but I don't, let me see here. Here it says, Ron Gibson official web page for land patents. Let me see if this is it. Click for Ron's land patent books. I got the book, but I don't see the one about, you are not a slave.
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I can't find the, the Does Jerry have his contact number? I've got his book here, but I don't see any contact information in it.
[03:40:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Let me see.
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Get it directly from his son, I guess.
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I can't find the you are not a slave, Samuel.
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Yeah.
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Can you find it?
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I
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have No. If you if you can't find it, I'm not gonna find
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it. I've got a phone. You got a computer. Yeah. All of these what's wonderful about Ron's stuff is it gives you this rich history we have in these types of documents like land patents. And, I sort of go with attack also that the book of the hundreds is is that the elodium, that has never been a man made law, really. It's really biblical, and it cannot be really transferred for money. It has to be inherited to our true elodium. Like, the king would give his prince land. That that's an elodium. Right? And for us here in The States, that's a difficult thing to say that we can do. Right? That's gonna be unusual. But the book of the 100 says as a Christian, you can take that through Jesus
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Christ. Yes. As his as his children of gee as the children of God.
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Exactly. And they cite Psalms twenty four one. The ears of the Lord's and all. That's that's it. And, that's the true holder of all title.
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So Ron gets his phone number. +1 (541) 621-5548. And he I I think he's got more numbers than that, but I'm not this is the one I have. This is the one I used to talk to him on. And I never I never paid him one red penny besides buying those books from him.
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Wow.
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There's a lot in the book. Book. I've only got the one, but,
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I don't have the Slayer's one. I have I have that I have that one, but I I I put it somewhere, and I think finally been looking for it for I have that somewhere. I'm gonna look for it. But, anyways, yes.
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The other guy that that was doing a lot of this back in the day too, I think Eric has also passed, but Eric Madsen, team law was always, talking about the land patents. And, one thing about Eric, very intelligent man. And, he I used part of his quitclaim deed in my current quitclaim, that format, because I didn't wanna get into this any of this, color of title verbiage that is on standard quitclaims.
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Right.
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And it one of the main things is he he, he put on description of what land is on that quick claim, which is from a specific person who was so revered in the business, he's quoted at Black's Law under the same thing of of what land is.
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Okay. So I started in in my diggings. I I just took pictures on my phone as a matter of fact. Once a land patent is issued, it stands as the highest evidence of legal title. A patent to land is the judgment of the land department and the conveyance of the title in execution of it to the party, a judge entitled. When the land described was in the jurisdiction and subject to the disposition of the land department, it is impervious to collateral attack. Court case, NEF v United States one six five f two seven three two seven seven nine one c c a two four one. A patent is recognized as the highest evidence of title, conclusive against the government and all claiming under junior title patents or treaties until it is set aside or annulled by some judicial tribunal, United States v Millen Mullen.
Then f, seven eight five seven nine two, Behner versus Stanley. 13 f two seventeen two twenty three.
[03:45:55] Unknown:
So, Jerry? Hello? Hey, Jerry. So you don't pay property taxes. And so does that mean you're not entitled to the benefits of the fire services of the, fire department and stuff?
[03:46:08] Unknown:
Right. Right. And whether being entitled or not, I own Allodium. My land.
[03:46:27] Unknown:
So land there are land patents or above Allodium title?
[03:46:32] Unknown:
Yes. Land patents are Allodium In elodium. Yes.
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Okay.
[03:46:39] Unknown:
I think they're separate. I think one is superior to the other.
[03:46:44] Unknown:
I thought elodial is superior to, land patents, Samuel.
[03:46:51] Unknown:
I I'd like to call you.
[03:47:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Out out here in California, you when you get a piece of property in the unincorporated areas, it get the definition of the land comes with meets and bounds. And you take those meets and bounds and you send it to the BLM here in Sacramento, and they will give you a printout of what land patent it came under. And you sit in that land patent somewhere, and usually should get a certified plot map of that as well. And that's where you start your land patent process out here.
[03:47:45] Unknown:
Okay. That one.
[03:47:48] Unknown:
That's different in the Eastern States. Probably the other side of the Mississippi, I would say for sure. Okay. What I'm reading here I'm sorry. The original colonies, and that's not a lot. Gibson doesn't really get into that a lot, the East Coast. So he mentions it. But
[03:48:07] Unknown:
So, Jerry, I don't understand what this means. It says on here that an elodial title represents absolute absolute and unencumbered ownership of land, free from any external claims or burdens, whereas a land patent is a legal document issued by the government that conveys title to a specific piece of land to an individual or entity establishing clear and unambiguous ownership rights. While both allodial titles and land patents represent forms of land ownership, an allodial title signifies absolute and unencumbered ownership, whereas a land patent represents the official conveyance of land ownership from the government to a private party establishing a recognized title to the land. A land patent is the highest evidence of title and it's and establishes an allodial freehold that is judgment proof and even immune from tax liens. Wow. That's what you're saying. Right?
[03:49:07] Unknown:
That's what I'm saying.
[03:49:08] Unknown:
Oh, wow. That's incredible. Wow.
[03:49:15] Unknown:
And then if you go to the Constitution of The United States Of America, I think it's a article three Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I gotta write this down. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
[03:49:27] Unknown:
Okay. Go ahead. I gotta go to article three.
[03:49:30] Unknown:
Well, hold on. Maybe article four. Article four section three clause two.
[03:49:41] Unknown:
Article four section three. What?
[03:49:45] Unknown:
Clause two. Okay. Four three two. Yeah. Article four section three clause two. Four three two.
[03:50:03] Unknown:
Thank you.
[03:50:06] Unknown:
And that article talks about where the lands are to be disposed to the public, which falls into all that that you just read to me.
[03:50:19] Unknown:
Okay. That's interesting. Thank you so much. I didn't do anything. You're gonna text me all that stuff. Right? Right. Thank you.
[03:50:32] Unknown:
It it'll take me maybe a couple days to get it all together, but I'll I'll text you what I can. I'm pretty busy right now talking to you guys. Thank you, Jerry. I didn't do anything. A lot of right. We'll get this out to everybody because everybody needs to be own kings and queens of their own land, which we are not right now. Yep. I agree. I've tried to tell my show my neighbors, and none of them you know, like Roger says, it's easier to be a serf to ask for all the freebies and the goodies and the and the rebate check that, president Trump's fixing to send y'all than than to be your own men and women, including including me.
But you have to be you can't be a citizen or a resident. You have to be a free man, woman, child, blah blah blah. You have to be. And if we're God's children, we're free. But as US citizen and US residents, we're slaves that live on the plantation, and we had to pay the slave master what's due. And Christ says, do not, but we still do it. Because why? Because we're afraid. We fear that which we do not know. And ignorance of any law, especially the law of God, is against God.
[03:52:18] Unknown:
These are the definitions in Ron Gibson's book. At the back, there's a glossary at laudable. Three, not holding to any lord or superior owned without obligation of vassalage or fealty, the opposite of feudal, land patent, an instrument conveying a grant of public land also, the land also conveyed. Now granted, a lot of people I read say that all the land in this country is the lodial, but I think you definitely need to make your claim now. There's no way to show pure inheritance. So how are you gonna do that unless you take the, what the book of the hundreds did is to claim Jesus Christ as the one you're getting the inheritance from as a Christian.
[03:53:12] Unknown:
And this, and that's what all, that's what long it says.
[03:53:16] Unknown:
And you got to make that claim. You, you, you've got to, I think, use the term allodial. And there is no such thing as a, allodial, what do people say? They use the term all the time. There is no such term. I can't think of it right now. It's a allodial or a allodial right. Yeah. Title. Title puts it back into into man jargon, and there is no such thing. You wanna stick with the term allodial or a allodial right.
[03:53:53] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[03:53:55] Unknown:
No problem. You guys, I hate to, put the kibosh on this conversation, but in seven minutes, Paul English live is gonna be on this channel. It's gonna be in this room. I'm gonna be in the same conference. The what?
[03:54:12] Unknown:
Don't be a hater, Paul.
[03:54:14] Unknown:
I'm not being a hater. I'm getting your heart. I'm not getting your heart. I'm not being a hater. I'm just taking down the radio list so we can switch gears. I'll listen to Paul English. Oh, okay. Well, that's what I'm gonna be doing. I'm gonna be resetting the room and, gonna be, Seven minutes. Connecting us to yeah. It's in about seven minutes. So I gotta get busy. I gotta get my act in gear. So, hold on to your socks, guys. Here it comes. Thank you for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Press 6 to mute or unmute. And if your line is locked, dial 941 to raise your hand.
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