In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses a variety of topics, including the ongoing legal battles faced by individuals like Alan and Charlie in Colorado, highlighting the challenges of dealing with state legal systems. The conversation shifts to the broader political landscape, with a focus on the changes in Colorado's political climate and the influence of figures like John Denver. Roger also touches on the importance of understanding one's national status and the implications of the 14th Amendment, emphasizing the need for education and awareness to achieve true freedom.
Later in the episode, Roger shares exciting news about a potential interview with Anne Vandersteel, a well-connected figure in the alternative media space. This opportunity could bring greater exposure to the message of national status and freedom. The discussion also delves into the complexities of the financial system, the role of central bank digital currencies, and the importance of precious metals as a stable investment. Throughout the episode, Roger encourages listeners to seek understanding and knowledge to navigate the challenges posed by modern governance and financial systems.
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Morning, folks. Here we go on the Saturday or Sabado, if you speak a little Spanish. Sabado edition, Radio Ranch. Roger Sales, your host, of course, and we are date stamped the nineteenth, July 19. So here we go. Paul, I know we've got a much abbreviated contingent of folks that are helping us today, but I know you wanna give them proper recognition. Have we had any update on Alan?
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Yes. He's, yes. He's fine. They keep, you know, it's kinda like Charlie, early, our our, our girl out in, Colorado.
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Yes. Who we haven't heard from in a long time. Whenever
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whenever you're you're in a legal situation with the state of Colorado. Well, probably any state, but more so Colorado. Every time you throw a hook at them, they they switch gears and they volley back. As a matter of fact, I I think Charlie is training the state of Colorado how to answer objections because she's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And it seems that they're doing pretty much the same thing to Alan. But, but every day, inch by inch, life's essentially gets a little closer.
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So Yeah. Colorado has just gone off the rails. I mean, I'm really shocked because I used to ski out there years ago, of course. And it's all it was always kinda rugged individualism. You know, Brent one of Brent's friends said the the person that's really changed Colorado was, Rocky Mountain High guy.
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John Denver.
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Yeah. So that's that's what really started the change in Colorado. Don't know about that, but it's a beautiful state, lovely mountains, fantastic world class ski resorts, and, unfortunate. Unfortunate. But, boy, it's gone left. It may it it I don't know if it's past California yet, but it's sure trying to get there.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's it's I don't know.
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Me either. I'm shocked. I'm
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I certainly don't envy anyone living there.
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How they've done this to all these people, man. I mean, you know, of course, it's kind of the basis of what we do here is showing you how they've got that type of control. They from the cradle to the grave, they're enslaving and propagandizing you. So, anyway, unfortunately well, we'll look forward to seeing Alan when he gets back.
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Yeah. Then we're we're only on a couple of platforms today. Yeah. I know. Radio. Very limited. Yeah. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we're on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to both of those, platforms are on our website, thematrixdocs.com, as well as the links to free conference call and, the new student section, the downloadables, the exhibits, and just pack a lunch and stay the day. There's a a whole lot of information on that website. It's ugly and it's cumbersome, but it is, it is definitely a drink from a fire hose.
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Yeah. That's for sure. A lot of information here. So I guess, I hope Mark's with us today. You with us, Argh, or not? Yes. Argh's with us. Okay. Good. Yeah. Roger, good morning. Morning. Good morning. I got two things on the agenda today. And, I think new student Austin is hopefully with us, told Julie would be. So I'm gonna I'm gonna take that. We'll get to you in a second, Austin. I wanted to get this other thing out of the way that I was promoting yesterday. It's pretty exciting. Dave, are you with us this morning? Yep. I am.
Okay. I I wanted Dave to tell you all this because he's the one that has the experience here and is, rather than me telling you and missing details and not giving him proper credit. So Dave wants to tell the audience what's been happening in the last few days. You called me, wrote me an email, said I got something pretty I need to talk to you the other night, and, we spoke. And he laid it on me, so I'm a let him lay it on you.
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Yeah, Roger. Thanks for letting me call you later in the evening. That's okay. I wasn't late. Hell, I usually go to bed
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about midnight, maybe eleven occasionally. So I I kinda am a night owl. My I used to have a chair, a rocking chair, Dave, that, old rocking chair about about as old as I am, that was broken. And my father had some woodworking experience when he was young, and he had braced it up and fixed it. And the reason it broke is because I wouldn't go to sleep. My mother literally broke that chair trying to rock me to sleep.
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Oh, that's great. That's a good story. So, well, you know I I follow your show. I can't always get on, Roger, but, some of the other things that I try and do is, put a plug in for the national status in in various places, different videos of different influencers. And, recently, I'll try and not,
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make this long story short. If there's anybody new here, excuse me, Dave, for stepping on you, nationalstatus.com, nationalstatus.info is the website that Dave and Kaye have put up. It's got all kinds of fancy stuff on it. So just in case, like Austin probably didn't know that, Dave and Kaye are some of the people that this information has inspired, and they wanted to go do something. So they set up this website, put a lot of hours in. It's very sophisticated. So I just wanted to give you that plug there, Dave, and let people understand the deal.
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Yeah. I appreciate it, Roger. And, so prior to your interview with Kevin Hoyt, I remember at one point you were gonna, interview I know you just did your interview, and by the way, we've got that posted on the site. But Cool. Prior to prior to this interview, you had tried to schedule it earlier. Well, at that time, now this has been a couple weeks ago, I went to his Rumble channel, and I was looking at some of the videos, his videos, And I put a plug in for the national status on, in the common area of one of his videos. And I mentioned, I think I mentioned you and, try not to get too extensive, but I wanted to put a plug in there, which I do in various places like I mentioned. But, and I put my phone number.
Well, shortly after that, I got a text, and the text said, essentially, this is Anne Vandersteel. And I saw your, comment on Kevin Hoyt's, channel. Could you give me a call? Well, I'm like, oh, this is BS. Right? I thought this is fake. And because, I do get fake texts and emails, and we all do, I guess. But, long story short, I kind I kind of ignored it, and I did write back and said, hey. Perhaps you can get on Roger's show, and I gave her a link to your show, how to get to your show, and that I kinda left it at that. Right? So, again, coming up to just the other day, I remembered that text conversation, and I remembered that you had just finally did your interview, with Kevin Hoyt. So I wrote back to that that phone number and mentioned that you you were gonna be doing your interview. And she wrote back or the person wrote back and said, can, you know, can we talk?
Here's my phone number. So I'm like, what the heck? So I called, and a woman answered and said, this is Ann Vandersteel. And I said, is this the Ann Vandersteel for real? And, it was, believe it or not. And it was on my birthday. In fact, my birthday is the seventeenth is when we talked, so I told her it was a good birth. That's my father's birthday. Yeah. That's pretty cool, Dave. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I told her it was a great birthday present, and we proceeded to talk for probably over an hour. And just a a really, nice lady.
I tried not to get too into the weeds with any of the national status because my goal at that point was to try and get an interview for you, Roger. So I wanted to, basically lead that up to you. You're the expert and and so forth. So I, talked about you and your background, and and she was very interested in having you on, and she actually gave dates, the sixth and the seventh. And I know right away, I reached out to you, and you you had, indicated if there was any way to do a two hour. So I asked her, and sure enough, she, you know, she could only say no. She said yes. So I'm gonna call it tentative, but we've got dates set for the sixth and the seventh.
And the details are yet to be determined as to how you're gonna get on her show and all that good stuff. And I was gonna perhaps call upon Paul and offer his expertise
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and I've been on Briteon before with Jim White. I'm not sure if Jim's on over there or not anymore. The guy from, Kalispell, actually, up around, Gary is. I think they use Zoom. I believe we used Zoom last time. And what we did, if I remember correctly, because a couple years ago I'm getting old. You know? I got a birthday tomorrow there, Dave, right there with you. And, happy birthday. So I think we did the whole hour, and then they edited it in a two hour long segment. So I believe that's the way Jim handle it. Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. So go ahead. She I mean, she'd meant she'd mentioned some names, you know, and I don't think she was really trying to name drop, but, you know, general Flynn. She knows Alex Jones. Yep. And we probably all know her name. But she's got a a huge following. Sure does. And so I think it's a it's, a great stepping stone for the national status message. And, by the way, I did watch your interview with Kevin Hoyt. It really that went really well, I thought. Yeah. I'm very comfortable. Kevin's a real nice guy. He picked it up real quick, I thought. Oh, yeah. He was really receptive, and, I think I think it clicked right away. And it it appeared he had a good understanding already of some of the concepts, but I think he was still under the influence of some of those myths, of course, but but I think it went really well. And, anyway, I I thought that was a great interview, Roger. So I was gonna send her a link. I went I I don't wanna overwhelm her yet, with text. I don't wanna think I'm stalking her or anything, but but, I'm gonna send her a link to that interview, with Kevin Hoyt. And if if that's if you think that's appropriate, might give her some foundation.
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That's a good interview. You know? Any of them are good. I mean, just on others like JB Wells took a different approach. There's a number of ways to approach this. Mark and I were talking about it the other night. And, maybe we should poll the audience right now, Mark, on that question we were talking about. Because I see Roger? Yo. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Julie, good morning.
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Good morning. I wanted to tell you and good morning, Dave. I wanted to say that, you know, Kevin Hoyt is very, very connected. He's he's in the general tent with Nino Rodriguez. I know Vandersteel very well. She is a national. I think she took either
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David Strait or Bobby Lawrence. But Of course. I think I think she was under Anna. Go ahead, though.
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No. She was at a well, she was at an event with either Bobby Lawrence or David Strait, and she was with and Bobby Lawrence. Yeah. Yeah. She was with them at an event, and she did did promote them. So she's the national, through them, in some way, shape, or form. But, you know, she's connected big time. She was with, the border control guy in a canoe down in Gary. Michael Young.
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Yep. I'm very familiar with very familiar with her background. So she's incredibly connected, and she's a really sharp, sharp gal. Okay?
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So I'm looking forward to talking with her. Very connected. So as well as Kevin. So I I'm hoping this leads to more and more interviews and more and more exposure, for everybody so that we can just get the word out. But, yeah, that's great news that, Anna or so sorry. That Ann Vandersteel posted in in the comment section there. That's that's awesome news.
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Well, I I wanted Dave to come on and tell that story just because I I continued to kinda prod you guys to spread the word. Well, there's Dave. He's in that situation. You just stick something in there and look who shows up. K? So, just to tell you, don't think I I'm not gonna take the time to do that because you never know. And the other thing you never know here is you never know who somebody knows. That's the old MLM thing. You know? Three clicks and you can get to anybody in the world. You know? That kind of thing. You never know who somebody knows. So, Dave, what I I you wrote I exchanged the email from one I saw this morning, and you said she would like to talk to me. Well, I would love to talk to her. Okay? But I can't Yeah. Unless we get on one of these comm apps because I can't call The US thanks to Bill Gates and his Microsoft's crew over there with what they did to Skype. And Yeah. Then magicJack gets overwhelmed. I still don't even know if mine's delivered yet even though they sent me a month and a half ago that had been shipped.
And so it's just one big screw up, and hopefully, that'll get straightened out here pretty quick. But, anyway, yeah, I'd love to talk to you.
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I I was just gonna say, Roger, we have some time till the sixth and seventh, you know, for you to to chat with her. And so I, you know, I'll just I'll stay on it,
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at my end. Yeah. Well And, but, yeah, she definitely wanted to touch base and chat with you before Well, well, I want you. You. I'd like to talk to her this afternoon, but I can't call her. I got her number. I can't call her. Okay? So please relate that to her, and I'm sure her technical guy knows what's what's app. If she doesn't know what's WhatsApp is, I'd be shocked. But we can talk that way. And I don't like Telegram because and I'll tell you why. Well, first of all, anybody can pick your your your profile up and and add to it. Okay? And, the with my eyes, it it I cannot enlarge it large enough to read without putting my face on the screen.
Okay? WhatsApp, I can. With Telegram, I cannot. So, that's a big problem for me. So I don't use it usually. It's cluttered. There's so much on there. Just clutter, clutter, clutter. So, anyway, that's where I stand on that. Tell her I would love to speak with her. Maybe we could facilitate it somehow. Okay. But from me, I can't call The US until, till we get this situation, Bill Gates, and his bunch created. Yeah. Hold it. Larry was trying to say something. What, Paul?
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Arrange a date and a time. Yeah. And I will find the platform where you guys can hook up. You could either use Zoom. You can use Jitsi. You could use Zoom. You can use Jetsey. You can use FCC. You can use Found. You can use Teams. You can use Telegram. You can use anything.
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Alright. But I can't dial her number and and get her to answer. Okay? So that's the problem. So if you relay that to her, Dave, what maybe I will. If you would give her my email and let see if she'd send me we can coordinate a time and a date then. And if we can do that, I think we can move forward with that. Okay? Yeah. So if you do that, I'd appreciate it. Just apologize to your hell. I don't have any control over this.
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Just just arrange a date and a time, and I will find a platform where you guys can connect,
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and I will remote into your PC and hook up. And I've I've watched a bunch of her, stuff over the years. She's got one of the one time I saw her, and she was talking about a Supreme Court case at the end of the seventeen hundreds, which said they can't take your rights away, but you can give them away. I unfortunately, I didn't write that case style down at the time, but I saw her do it. So she understands a lot about being a national. Don't forget, she's the one that generally said general Flynn and all that. She's pretty tight with Todd Callender too.
And, I can't wait to tell her. You know? I said, look. I I had two hours on the phone with Todd Callender, and he just flat didn't get it. I I did the very best I could at explaining it, but he was so green to this. And what does everybody always fall back on? Oh, yeah. We know about that national stuff. Well, you think you do, but you don't. Okay? You have no idea how deep it goes and the effects of it, but you may know on the surface. But, yes, I'm looking forward to talking with her and explaining this to her and letting her really see the impact of this. The fact that this is the root of all of their power, and she does have incredible connections. She's been on she's hosted, with Michael Yohn and them, Alex's show before and stuff like that. I don't know. She's got a ton of connections, and she's a kind of pivot person we need right here. We get a pivot person like that that, you know, go into all these shows and say, hey. You need to listen to this guy, get him on, you know. And and we're a lot further ahead than we were before. So that's kind of where it stands at this point. I wanted Dave to come on and, and give that announcement. It's pretty exciting. I'm looking forward to meeting her. She's very sharp gal and, and broadening her horizons a little bit from some of the stuff she's been told that may or may not be true because I don't know of what she knows. Now Larry was trying to say something a minute ago. Hold on. Let's get Larry. People wanna interrupt you. Go ahead, Larry.
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Yeah. So, about two years ago, is when I was listening to Dan Vandersteel give speeches and the terminology she would always use is she's an American state national. And, if if she's a student of Bobby Lawrence, then that might be a bad thing because Bobby Lawrence, the last time I listened to some of his videos, was also two years ago. And the last video I listened to, he was explaining how he was, drafting his paperwork to expatriate from The United States. Yeah. And then he's going to repatriate, and so that's not a a really good thing.
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Well, they they just none of them really know what they're dealing with. Everybody's got some piece of the puzzle. K? But nobody's got the complete one, at least in this group. These guys, Bobby Lawrence, David Strait, Annabon Wright, who I don't know if you're listening. The other day, we found out. While we may start getting some AVR, refugees. She got in a little tussle, her and her husband with the Internal Revenue Service and got fined 1,200,000.0 and none of her fancy Patriot stuff even slowed them down. Well, I refuse to contract. Hey, Anna. How many times did you answer those two questions? Yes. And sign something. You'd agreed to contract your whole life. And they don't know this stuff. So they take dots that appear to connect, and they connect them. And then from then on, they're teaching people. And just like Brent was talking about yesterday, man, when you get the first impression from somebody, it's almost impossible to get that crap out of your mind.
I've been fighting it for fourteen years. K? So I I understand what's going on, and hopefully, we'll get a chance and just say, Anne, look. I what I'd like for you to do is just wipe your mind clean of all that stuff. Wipe clean. Sit down and let me let me build the foundation for you, and then we can build a dwelling on top of that, and we can all live free in there.
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Okay. Who's the conversation? I'll I'll yeah. Go ahead. There's there's there's Dave in the thumb, but I've got a quick comment. Can I go first, Dave? Of course. I thought alright. Thank you.
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He's the wizard. Come on. He goes first.
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Okay. We're going to probably be seeing an awful lot of people from Anavon rights because, who in their right mind could possibly believe that anything that Anavon is doing or saying is going to work for them if it doesn't even work for her? You know? I think the floodgates are about to open.
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Well, could be. Hopefully, some of these people that I and whether it's intentional or not, I don't know. I'd like to think it's not. But she's way out on the limb. Okay? She you know, I I have a personal I got the pope's private phone line. I'm in touch with the mothership above. I mean, come on, folks. Come on. Okay? Alright. Who who was, trying to say something there?
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Hey, Roger. I just kinda wanted to follow-up with you know, when I was on the phone with her, she jumped on to nationalstatus.com, and I was I was pointing out the different areas of the site. Well, interestingly, she zeroed in on the IRS area, and, and she she was fascinated. I and she said, oh, you've got the receipts because in the IRS section, if you know we I've posted a lot of the documents that we used to address the IRS and, redacted some of that, of course. And one of them I showed her was the actual treasury check that I received on my withhold you know, when they sent my withholdings back. Right. For 2023, and she would just bust it out like, oh man, you've got the receipts.
And she made a comment like, I haven't seen anybody get anything back like this. And that kind of surprised me because we we've been having, I think, and, Mark could speak to this, there's we've been having success other than maybe the additional couple of years, you know, going three years back. But, so I don't wanna I just wanna give you a heads up on that, that she kind of, zeroed in on that. And it may be because of, you know, the the trouble that her counterpart,
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got in recently. You know? Uh-huh. Well, you could also tell her if she'd like to come on the show. I'd be happy to do it publicly right here, and she'd love to meet the rest of our people and hear their stories and stuff like that. That's another option. Okay? I don't know what her mornings are like or where she is, but I know she's a busy gal. She's quite articulate. She's very lovely. She's really obviously intelligent. And, I I look forward to meeting her, Dave, and I thank you for taking a minute to stick up, some some information in a in a comment section. And lo and behold, look who shows up. I mean, you folks, you never know. But if you don't make the effort, you will never know.
That's what I know. Okay. Yep. Now, Dave, you got anything else to add? I'm gonna get you a second mark. Anybody anything else to add, Dave? No. I'm just really excited, and I'm kinda holding back a little bit of getting too excited, you know. Yeah. I don't there yet. I don't you know? And that's the thing I've learned over the years, like Jeff Rents and these other things. Don't get your hopes up because you never know. Alright? Or Mike Brown over there on Sons of Liberty or whatever it is. And he goes off with Paymon Pentahayo or whatever his his name is because he gets a kickback on everything. You know? So I I alright. He's got nine kids. Things are tough. Okay? I understand.
But, anyway, some people get it. Some people don't. I don't have the equation. All I know is to put the information in front of people and see if they react. And if they do, great, I'll grab them and hug them and say, listen. You wanna know more? And if they don't, I'll say, like these people down here, sayonara, we'll, cross paths with you at the mall or something. You know? Good luck. Sforte. Some will. Some won't. Some won't. So what? Next. I came from Newscaven, by the way, from some guys down in South Florida. Okay. Mark Arga. Good morning, sir. Hope your dad's doing better.
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Doing better. Nothing life threatening, but just got sick real quick and, had kinda lost his his strength. And so we now we didn't wanna take any chances. And I just went ahead and had the ambulance pick him up. So Yeah. But, anyway, they're gonna they're probably gonna release him the first part of next week, and, they want to put him in rehab to kind of build his muscle strength back up a little bit, see what's going on. Okay. But,
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okay. I know. He's doing okay. I know you got your hands full with that stuff. Both your mom and your dad are getting elderly, and they're getting less and less capable of doing the things that we do individually. Right. It it puts the burden right on you, and I understand it and so does everybody else, especially people that have been through that situation. It's a duty, and God bless you for doing it. K?
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Well, thank you. I appreciate it. It's it's it's a lot, I tell you. And, you know, I had to apologize for to people who, you know, I thought I could help them more with some of, like, the tax return stuff. But I I just, you know, all I can do now is point you in the right direction. Yeah. You know, I can do that. But as far as me doing the heavy lifting, you're gonna have to do that on your own. Yeah. And you need to do that on your own anyway. You need to at least learn it so you do not always dependent upon somebody else. Very true.
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Just like the trust information. So, did you have anything to add to all this? Well, I know kinda what your thoughts are.
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Well, you know, as far as, you know, being a national, it made me think of that guy on YouTube. You mean for forty years, I could have been doing this? Ain't no way. If you've never seen the forty year guys, he's pretty hysterical. I haven't seen it. He's got like I think over a million
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subscribers now
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but, he starts every video out. You mean for forty years I could have been doing, whatever it is? And he says, there ain't no way. So, you mean for forty years I could have been a national? Ain't no way. So it made me think of people who are familiar with the national status but hadn't just put all the pieces together yet. So I'm just telling you folks, this is so liberating and empowering. The more you wrap your mind around being a national, it's amazing. Now a lot of you, it may not feel very different other than maybe not filling out tax returns. But there's other people. We're going to have somebody on here really soon that has an amazing story to tell you that is it's bigger than Sarah in Colorado with the child protective services. I'll put it that way.
And,
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the the
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let me go this way. This person initially ended up getting an attorney. And now the attorney is shaking their head going, how'd you do that? Because they're using Rogers materials. And with the help of a few other people on the side, it it's I I think you're gonna be blown away. And you're talking about bringing receipts? Yeah. They're gonna bring some receipts. So I've been riding shotgun on it and just kind of you know, pointing them in the right way, help with a little bit of wording here and there. And so it's, they did their due diligence. They studied.
They've been studying their materials. So it's, anyway, I'm excited. I can't wait for them. We'll probably within the next two, three weeks that should come about. Good news. And they're they're excited to be on your show, Roger, and share their story. Well, I can't wait to hear it. I know a little bit about it, of course. I'm waiting for them to tell it like Dave here.
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Now and and for new people, you see, Mark hit a really important point there. He said, well, nothing really changes except you don't file tax returns. K. Well, that's right. The world's not gonna change. It may not change ever, but it sure ain't gonna change yet. We may have some influence on this percentage of that down the line, but, generally, the world hates truth. Boy, have I found that out recently. Okay? And Yeah. So here's the deal. If you wanna play a paper filing game, well, I mean, I I can't stop you from doing it. But if you truly wanna be free, you're not free until you can defend your position, till you have enough knowledge and understanding. As remember, the Bible says above all, seek understanding.
Until you've got enough understanding to be able to defend your position if it's challenged, like we had earlier this week with, Mary Anne and her bluff letter and, just panicking on a Sunday. Please, can we talk tonight? You got no. We can't. You got ninety days. Calm down. K? But that's the way people react to this. That's how scared they are, and that's how deeply, conditioned they they've been. But until you can defend your position and teach other people, you're really not free. If if you've gotta come run into somebody on some alright. The bluff letters. But if you know your stuff, you can read right through it. You know what I teach you? It says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, not are.
It's not a yes. You're this because you were born here. No. It's not. It's a two step solution. I've got to do something to trigger that second clause, that second part of the test. And and if there's some that are and subject, there's obviously some that are and not. Okay? So, that's the thing, and I I just it upsets me to an extent when people don't wanna learn the information. You wanna be free, but you don't wanna learn how to be free or why? You know? Can I quote Thomas Jefferson? Those who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be. That's true. Okay? That's why I don't charge you. Because if people pay you, then they think you've done everything.
They paid you for it, so they're absolved to the situation. They don't know what happens. They can't explain it to other people. Say, hey, man. I got out of the taxes. And why how'd you do that? I paid this guy. But they don't know crap. Okay? So again, that is the road to ignorance right there. What my goal is when I started this is to affect change. We can affect change unless people know what has happened and why they can get out of it and where all the gremlins are in the wood pile. Okay? So that's just the way it is. I'm sorry. You're gonna have to pay something.
I don't charge you Federal Reserve Babble Bucks because you're gonna have to pay me and pay yourself by learning the damn information. So that's just what what I I tried to insist on it. K? But some of you are real stubborn and you you whatever. You don't wanna go back and do that. Oh, I'm out of that. It's alright. No. It's not. We're never gonna affect change. We're not in the condition we're in because of a lack of people filing paperwork. We're there because of a lack of education and understanding. We got bamboozled. By the way, Larry, when confronting Brent yesterday on that, just like I told you, the reason I don't do that anymore is because I pretty well understand Brent's position.
Brent cannot admit first of all, he can't think like our enemies do. He's too embedded in the legal stuff. And he always come back, well that's fraud. Well, yeah, it's fraud, but you were agreed to it. You answered those two questions yes. Just like everybody else here. Okay? So Brent cannot get over the fact that old scratch tricked him. That's it. And he's technically right. Yes. I'm born. I'm born free. Well, you are until your feet get out of the birth canal, then you're born, then you're on the fourteenth amendment. And then every time they ask your whole adult life when you went in the navy and everything else, that you're a citizen of The United States and you didn't catch it. Scratch tricked you. But own up to it, but I'm not gonna argue about it with him anymore.
I told you yesterday, you can go back in the archives to about the twelve twelve years back. And for five years, almost every Friday, Daryl and Chris and I would jump and pile on Brent. Go listen to it. So I've I've learned not to do that anymore. I accept his position. He's incorrect. But I think what I said yesterday, Brent cannot think like our enemies think. If you can't think like our enemies think, you're gonna have a hard time getting your arms around this. Okay? And so when I had that conversation with Brent years ago, I said, Brent, you got to learn how they think. He goes, I don't want them. I don't wanna think like them.
And I said, you don't have to think like them. You have to know how they think. Okay? So, Larry, just to catch you up on that and the rest of the audience, when Brent comes out and says stupid stuff about what we're doing here, just let it ride. Okay?
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Capisce?
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Roger? Yes.
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Yeah. I'm not being confrontational with him or you, and I'm not trying to put you guys at odds. I understand both of your positions, and I just figure it's a good thing to talk about. So maybe something, because you're not too old to learn something. Maybe something would be triggered
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in Brent's mind. But this has all been covered, Larry, miles back. Okay? If it's any justification or gratification for you, I know his wife has filed an affidavit and I know Francine has filed an affidavit. And I believe, even though Brent's never told me directly, that he has too. Okay? He just doesn't understand it and he he can't think. He's so legalistic and inaccurate thinking that he cannot get evidently his arms around what they've done here. Okay? So that's all I know. I'm tickled to death to have him on board. I'm not gonna sit there and argue the fine points with him. Let him have his own opinion.
And, that's the way it is. Okay? So that's what I wanted to bring across to you in the audience. Alright? We're damn lucky to have the relationship with Brent we've got. He cherishes this platform. You know why, Larry? He gets more response from this platform than any place else he appears. That's
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why. Okay?
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Alright. Now anything else on the Vandersteel stuff?
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Well, we really need to have a website updated and ready for a lot of people to hit hit it. So
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It would be nice if we can coordinate that and put it together. If we've got several people that have that kind of experience and said they wanna do that, Try and see if we can get several I don't know if there's too many cooks in the kitchen there or not. I don't know, Mark. Okay? But we'll put that out there. What we need to do hold on a second, Larry, please. What we need to do above all is get the book back available somehow. It doesn't necessarily have to be on Amazon to me. I know it's really important to you. I hate Jeff Bezos and Amazon screws everybody. There's a lot of authors that won't put their books on there. K? So, I don't mind putting it on there. Alright? But let's get the important base things done first. First thing to do is get the book available. Then we can see if we can work on the website. This one will have to do if that's what we got. And it it and it's only by a matter of necessity that this one got put up. Thanks to Paul. Okay? I stayed up after that Sarah Westall interview.
I got so many responses on that asking for information. I stayed up an entire night answering those emails one by one, and that's where we cooked up with Paul. He says, hell, let me throw you up a website here. And then we've been building on that. So that's where that came from. It wasn't planned out. It wasn't schemed out. It wasn't really designed. It was a matter of necessity thrown up there. And we all get so busy in everything we're doing. It just haven't hasn't gotten up over to a new website. We've been talking about it for a while. It's not new news. Hopefully, this will be motivation to get it done. Okay?
Right. Remember remember, we have no budget here. I don't charge you guys anything. I don't sell commercials for you. I don't sell your ears. This is a shoestring deal that's been done on a shoestring since I started it. And I'm kinda proud of that, actually. K? Every web designer I've ever had any contact with was screw stuck it right up my bar barracks bag. Okay? They've stolen from me. They've lied to me. They just all this stuff. I'm just sick of it. Sorry. Alright. Now anybody Larry, you got something to say? Somebody was trying to say something there a minute ago.
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No. It wasn't me.
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I was just
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commenting about, you know, how to share, and this is for everybody, you know, how do you share the ideal of being a national? And what has worked really great for me and I can get to the nitty gritty real quick is that, you know, I just asked them, did you know prior to the Civil War there was no such thing as a U. S. Citizen? They were state citizens and their state provided them protection. And or they were a citizen of you know, normally the citizen of the state they were born or if they moved to a different state and they had a permanent home in a different state, they were citizen of that state. Or or if they came to the It wasn't naturalized. They naturalized into a state.
Right. Right. And then after the Civil War and the Reconstruction Acts and then the implementing of the thirteenth Amendment and the fourteenth Amendment, the fourteenth Amendment, and this is well stated, well noted, that because the states, some states, wouldn't give blacks citizenship rights, then they become a US citizen and were covered under civil rights. Not constitutional rights, civil rights. And then that basically got built into where everybody now becomes a quote US citizen and everybody's roped in and that's through the Immigration and Naturalization Act 1940.
So that little short clip right there, that generally gets people wandering, you know. And now it's like, okay all we're doing is we're no longer volunteering to be a fourteenth Amendment citizen, we're just changing our status to that of a nationals. The state citizens become nationals. And that's all we're doing. We're pledging our allegiance to the state and not The United States. And there you have it in the definitions of eight USC 11 o one paragraph a, paragraph one twenty one, I believe it is, or eight twenty one.
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And and really, once you get down the road and get your arms around this, it's ridiculously simple. But not the way they've got it set up and how they've conditioned your mind. And that's why I started coming with that first so that my you know, like I said, there's a bunch of different ways to approach this. I've been doing it for, well, in some way, shape, or form for thirty three years, okay, this month. And, so I I I know that, but I I seized on the thing with, badass uncle Sam that I've started lately describing, you know, how they've enslaved you in your mind first so that because that's a valuable tool. It's something you're gonna wanna use as a way you get your sanity back is to undo the opposite definitions of those words.
Then when you see what they've done to you, it's not as topsy-turvy upside down. They got a little better grasp of it. So that's the only reason I've done that here as of late. Seems to work pretty good. Kevin got it real quick. So anyway, we'll we'll just go ahead and see and, it's we're we're doing I would encourage you to flip that around. Well, I've done that before all these years, Mark. I always used to approach it like that.
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Oh, okay. Well, I know just I'm one on one with people. Like, I I get my quickest moments when people realize that, you know, it's like, oh, I never thought about that. You know? Mhmm. And then you can show them how they got tricked into it. You know? I mean, just like, oh. So Well, well So anyway, yeah. Whatever you think whatever you think gets the most response, you know. Well, see, I go through I know we got limited
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I go through that I know we got limited time. Right. And and I go through that dialectical stuff. And then what's first thing I do? Go to the end game. Here's these two questions. Why'd you answer this? Yeah. It's because of this that I just showed you. That's why you answered those two questions. Yes. And signed something Yeah. And agreed with the servitude. So there there's a method to my madness. You know? If I find a better way or we're gonna change it, I'll change it. I don't care. I've done it a bunch of different way. I particularly like the matrix approach that we did on John b Wells. And, man, he got it quick. Okay? He's quick understudy, John b.
And and who better to ask about the matrix than Morpheus. Right? Yeah. Okay. What did Morpheus say? You can't see it. You can't touch it, but you can feel it. Isn't that true? Yeah. It's very true. You bet your ass it's true. Okay. And then was another one he says, it's like a splinter in your mind. Well, that's the opposite definition of the equivocations. And what's the third thing he says that's incredibly accurate? You were born into it. Yep. That's a wonderful approach. Did you take each one of those three things and explain them and bam, John b had it like like a, you know, like a marlin on a ballyhoo. Okay?
Yeah. So Yeah. Anyway, that's where we are. So enough of that. At this point, unless somebody's got something please to come forward with.
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Yeah. Especially if you're a new, you know, a new listener and and maybe you work during the week and you can't answer a question. You got a burning question about being a national. Come on. We'll we're happy to take your questions. Come jump on the the the there's almost always on the FCC somebody on that platform.
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Maybe not as much as it used to be. They used to stay on there till the damn middle of the night. Okay? But, generally, if you've got just a a itch you can't scratch, that's the place to get it scratched. Now before we run out of time, because we do have one of those persons, I believe, here that works during the week and is, with us. He started last Saturday. Mark, were you here when Austin was was here last Saturday? I don't remember if you were. Yeah. I caught I caught a little bit of Austin. He was the Oh, yeah. You had to leave her. Our gold and silver dealer. Right? Right. And I think I heard the the drums and the smoke and the signals said that he was gonna be back today. So Austin, are you with us, buddy?
Oh, Austin.
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Smoke signals.
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Calling Austin. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Well, Julie, evidently, Austin, something must
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come up. Yeah. The drums will be able to hear on this show, but the smoke signals not so much.
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Okay. Sorry. Yes. Roger? Yes. Julie. He texted me
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he texted me yesterday, and he said he's gonna be on. But when he's on, I believe he does work on Saturdays too, so he might be on a call.
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But I know that he had said he was gonna be on today, so he just might be on mute right now. Okay. Well, Austin, if you're working, when you get, finished with whatever you're doing, come back on and say, hey. This is Austin. I've got a couple of questions or whatever. If for some reason you can't show up, we'll look for you next week. Yes. Is that Austin?
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No. It's Samuel Wolf. Okay. Hey, Samuel. You know, back in the day back in the day, I was questioning Brent's motives regarding the fourteenth amendment as much as the other guys were. And yesterday, I was questioning his motives on his choice of Bibles, and I feel he's just as wrong about the fourteenth amendment as he is about the, NIV.
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Well, it may be. Well, I I wouldn't, yeah, I don't wouldn't do spit across street to get the NIV. So, anyway, everybody's able
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everybody's able to see that video I sent? I haven't watched the no. You're I saw part of it. Well, the comment was you it wasn't available in Ecuador. Is that what you were saying?
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Sent me, it said it wasn't available in in your country. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's probably because it's so Jewish or Jesuit powered. I mean, this this video, anyone along these lines, now they've had to change the name of the video to keep getting it out. So I sent you another one under a different name, and the format's a little different, but the message is pretty much the same. And the the original name of that on the parable channel was the great Bible hopes of 1881. And let me tell you, all of our so called Christians here in Europe and in The United States sold us out to the Catholic church. And it's quite obvious if you watch that video that all these new, so called translations, which I wouldn't even call them, are forgeries based on Westcott and Hort.
And James Ferrer challenged them as well
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in that case. About Westcott and Hort, for what I remember about them from the pastor Pete series was that they if I remember right, they translated the Bible into English or something. And even after they were dead, they dug up their graves and burned their bones.
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No. No. No. No. These guys are in the eighteen eighties.
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Well, this is what these guys were being I I I
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tense posing as posing as protestants, and they were really, didn't they didn't have the philosophy of protestants at all in mind, and they wanted to destroy the inerrancy of the Bible. That's what they were up to. And they used Vaticanus, which was recently found, and Sinaiticus as their new basis for writing a new Bible and throwing into the half the the the the trash heap of history, the King James version, that was their goal.
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That's what they exceeded in. But a lot of people followed them. Oh, not they didn't do too well because there are a lot of people that say it's a King James only is the only thing they want. This is why I like for our Fenton. But we mentioned it briefly at the end of the show yesterday. You can find it online. You can download the whole thing. For our Fenton, change the chapters in the bible a little bit, but it was his lifetime work. He was an atheist when he got to Oxford, and then he thought that the English empire was losing all of its impact because of the antiquated language in the King James.
And so he spent his whole lifetime upon founding five successful businesses on translating from the Greek the the Bible. Now he went to this extent. This is in the eighteen eighties. Okay? At about the same time frame you're talking about, Samuel. He worked on it over fifty years. And he every time he came to a word that he didn't know the translation of, he would write to every Greek scholar in the world, and he would not proceed until he got every letter back from them. And every time when I was, in James Brueggemann's flock, they're in Atlanta for ten years or more, and James is like Brent, done a little study in Greek and Hebrew and all that stuff. And in the middle of a sermon, I can I can give you a specific example?
What's the trash dump outside of, Jerusalem? Gehenna? I think. Yeah. Okay. That and that's translated as hell. Okay? Gehenna, a trash dump outside of Jerusalem. But every time there was a question on a word and would go, well, let's see this or this or this. Every time the was right. Every time. No exceptions. It's very easy to read. It's very complete. It's none of these damn shenanigans that, that the the Samuel's referring to. It's a very fine Bible. Just not very many people know about it.
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K? Go read Well, Roger, I sent you a a second iteration of that. I hope you can open that one. But, you you know, when when you ask, what what what's so frustrating with Brent is you ask him a simple question, and fifteen minutes later, he hasn't answered it. I understand. And I try to be respectful, but that's tough sometimes. Yep. I understand. Because it's pretty much a yes or no question. Well, you've got a lot to say. Well,
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every yes or no questions usually got an explanation around it. K?
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Well,
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yeah. But he never gets to it. And when he wants to demur, he's quite skilled at it is all I'm saying. Well, I Bless his heart. I He's got a he's got an incredible amount of knowledge. None of us can approach even the amount of knowledge Brent's got. And he's got his own ways and his own views, and I gotta respect those. And, just tickled with that to have him on every Friday. Okay?
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Enough said it. Samuel? People just wanna look for that for what happened there, I would I would appreciate if they would looked at the great Bible hopes of 1881 and what happened, really happened.
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Paul? Samuel. Go ahead, Paul. Did you send me the link to that or just to Raj?
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I may have. The the most confusing thing about this right now, Paul, is I couldn't find a copy of it because I was looking under the title of the great Bible hoax of 1881, which is what it used to be called. They have changed the names of it, and I think it's for the reason, like me sending Roger a copy, and that country wouldn't accept it. I think that's why they changed the names, and they've changed the internals of it a little bit so that it's not exactly the same thing with a new name. I think they did that to get around censorship. But, anyways, it's it's it's done by Christopher Pinto, and it's on the parable channel.
And I think you'll get close to it if you still use the old title of the the great bible hoax of 1881.
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Okay.
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Well But both of these, they've proven that piece that the Vaticanus and Atticus aren't ancient, yet they're trying to put them back to the fourth century and stuff like that. And it's just a bunch of Catholic undermining of the Protestant Reformation, and that was in the hands of the Jesuits. And these translations are loaded with help from the Jesuits. If you go through this dialogue that they're they're giving you, it's pretty hard to, to not see what's going on here.
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Well, the Jesuits were founded to fight the Protestant rev revolution, I'll put it.
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Reformation. Exactly. That's the reason for the order to be to to be even be put into existence. And the first, Jesuit was a Jew.
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Saint Thomas Iglesias or something? Iglesias something?
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No. He was a a Spanish show soldier first. What's his name? I'm sorry. I'm blanking on him. Okay.
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Anyway, his whole history, I'm not a big fan of the Catholic church either. So, you know, but we've got nice Catholics. There's some good Catholics out there that for you know, it's like they were born and raised in it. That's pretty much where they're gonna go. Other people may wanna leave the Catholic church or whatever. I was, listening to Bert. Mur sent me a pretty interesting interview between Candace Owens and e Michael Jones yesterday. And e Michael keeps going on about how the Protestants are so corrupt, and it was a land grab deal. It was the aristocracy wanting the Catholic church's properties. He didn't wanna say anything about all the crap the Catholics were doing, of course. You know, we had to pay to get graces and all that crap. I forget what it's called.
But his thing is, Protestantism is waning out and that it's white boys who eat pork and don't go to church anymore. That's the Michael Jones' exact description. Well, why would we go to church when they've been totally damn influenced by this Scofield Bible crap? Well, we got now fag pastors, you know, all this other stuff, these blatant atrocities. Why the hell would I go to a church? Pardon me? Yeah. What about going to a Catholic church where they perform all this damn pedophilia and stuff all over the world for God knows how many centuries? Or the or or or how's the nunnery? We're in Europe where they found hundreds of children's bodies buried there? What about that?
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Roger, when when Napoleon's generals took the pope into custody, they found that the inquisition was still going on. They had furnaces underneath the Vatican burning Protestants to death and walling them in alive. This was still going on during the time of Napoleon. They just changed their tack to being trying to make us, a part of their system and be doing it with sneakier tactics like the, Jesuits came up. That's Well, there are no doubt about that. I didn't know Napoleon captured the pope. I never heard that before. Yep.
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When did that happen? I know he went to Egypt. I didn't know he went into Italy and captured the Pope. Where are you getting that?
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Oh, he did. He took a lot of records too, and they after Napoleon fell, they forced the the the Vatican forced, the the French government to send the records back. He took a lot of stuff from there
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to try to See, I've never heard who they were. I've never heard Yeah. That Napoleon went to Rome and captured the pope. Never. First time ever in my entire life.
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Yeah. I think his general's first name was Gabriel. But Yeah. I forget his name.
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Okay. Well, I know he went to Egypt, and one of the reasons that he went to Egypt, you know why? He wanted to export the Jews of France to to l over there. He was looking for a place to put them.
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Well, actually, he gave the Jews a lot of freedoms that, was probably a mistake.
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It's always a mistake. Yeah. I mean, this is the scourge of mankind is the Jews. And so then it way predates the Zionist folks. We're talking back where you Yeah. And they got us in that term, which is bullshit too. But Yeah. With Cicero. Cicero. We got, Martin Luther's take on it the other day. This is ancient people. You know, I can when when I was a kid going to vacation bible school, if that whatever, ten, twelve years ago or something old years old, I why are these people so hated? They've been hated since the dawn of history, for god's sakes, because of their cliquishness, because of the all the crap they do.
And still, it's just gotten worse now. So maybe with the maybe with miss Vandersteel's help, we can pivot this to a few big platforms and turn the tables on them a little bit. Yuck yuck. No pun intended. Turn the tables on the money changers a little bit with their fraud and how they come up with their money. Because I guarantee you, Ann Vandersteel doesn't know that as a citizen of The United States, you're collateral for the whole bottom of the damn financial system. I guarantee you, she doesn't know that. Okay? So, yes, they remember and Anna, our our our Annie, our little sweetheart from Southern California, retired nurse, who paid out of her own pocket to go to all those, Awaken America tours, Went to the one down in Miami. Had her own folder printed up. Had her own little booth. We've gotten a couple of students from those efforts. Well, she saw Michael Flynn. She went up to Mackle Flynn. Said, here, I got some information on National. And he goes, well, we know all about that. Well, General Flynn, you don't know all about that, but maybe maybe here in the future you'll learn. K? And and realize the importance of what we've got here. That's it. They don't know the importance of what we've got here. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. The other thing that, you know, I wanted you to say that you might when you win, I don't think it's an if. I think it's when you get on our show. It's that, you know, those people were all taught. And even Brent Johnson teaches you to give up your social Security number. Correct. Well, you know, gave up all those, Social Security benefits that you paid in that you're that you're entitled to. They won't accept it. And you can still get them under our national and they don't know this. And so I think that's a great, bonus point to bring up and you know she has Brent Johnson on her show all the time and he's the one who does the common law trust and tells you wrong information like you cannot be your own grantor and your own trustee and Mark has shown case law after case law after case law disproving this on his show and I was thinking, you know what, maybe we ought to get Mark on Kevin Hoyt's show and get Mark on on the Van der Steel show too, and get the word out there from not only becoming free, but also state planning purposes, how to protect your wealth.
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Well, we don't know where the relationship's gonna go. We don't know how receptive she's gonna be to information countering people like Brent Johnson and his crap and the other crap she's been exposed to. We'll see. She might not even like me. Okay?
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Oh, she'll love you. I know Anne Vandersteel. She will love you, Roger.
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Well, anyway, we'll see where it goes. I never know. I try not to have expectations. They've been dashed two hours on Jeff Rent's nightly show and not one person from that. Not one person grabbed onto the message. I just I I can't have expectations anymore because I always get dashed. All I knew is to just over and over and over again, find people who wanna listen and tell them. That's all I know. K? Oh, yeah. We we get Austin yet? Austin, you join us yet? Okay. Well, Austin may not show up today, Dave.
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How you doing?
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I'm alright.
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Good. You know, I I don't listen to Rents much. I just got him on this, this platform on the telephone, you know, since you were on there. And, I'd heard him a couple times, you know, on a show or something. I can't remember where. But he sounds like a fatalist to me. Like, they're oh, we're it's over. We're done. We That's exactly correct. Nothing we can do. You know? That's exactly correct. And that's what his listeners all of his listeners are just like him.
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That's why they're not coming here. There's, like, oh, that ain't gonna work. We can't Well, that very well may be. There he he does so much woo woo stuff, you know, all the UFO stuff, and he's got some real cutting edge scientific stuff. He's got some basis. But, you know, the if there's one common trait that I've found here, it's people's spirituality. If you've got a spiritual gene, then this will has a better chance of resonating with you. Not a total chance, but a better chance. And even the people that are not spiritual at the time, certainly not religious, but not spiritual, will come to a spirituality through this information because you can't trace any of this back that doesn't go back to the Bible and it doesn't go back to the Jews.
One or the other. I've been doing it for thirty three years. Everything I've ever traced goes right back to the Bible and right back to the Jews. And boy, are they on the run all of a sudden? They got big problems. K? So let's just hope they continue to build. There's all kinds of TV shows, man. I see, Harrison and Owen taking a whole hour or more to talk about it. Okay? So it's getting on other platforms too. It's getting to be quite topical and conversational. And the more that it does, the more it paints these people into a corner. What a stroke of genius Satan did with dispensationalism and the Scofield Bible.
Started at the same time, the Russian Civil War. And all these years later, look how that has manifested. You you you those people that are bought into that rapture crap, there ain't no amount of facts you can put in front of them that's gonna change their mind. None. Dave.
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Yeah. Breaking news. Donald Trump filed a $10,000,000,000, defamation lawsuit against Rupert Murdoch and some newspaper or something that he's running. And Wonderful. And, the Wall Street Journal. Said we're gonna I guess there was a letter, some letter about this, that Trump wrote to Epstein on his fiftieth birthday in o three. It's
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it's fake. Anyway, Trump
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the Murdoch people said they're gonna defend it vigorously because they said it's, legit. Anyway, just wanted to put that out there. It's not legit, and they've salted
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the the, file with all these kind of things like that. That's why Raskin is coming out and said, well, we demand openness to the file on all the new stuff. They don't wanna mess with the old stuff, just the new stuff that they planted in there. Yeah. And and evidently, that's what happened and why Trump got so pissed off, last week on Monday because, that's what they've been doing to him the whole time. It's just another Russian hoax deal. Okay? So May I what appears coming out. Also, Julie, all of your all of your, sensationalism and stuff, do you know about the genius act that he signed yesterday? Do you know about that?
Roger, I know about all those acts. I've read them all. I've read them all. Well, now I I ask you I ask you a specific question. Do you understand what was in the genius act? Yes. I do. You do? That there the law is nobody can have a central bank currency in The United States Of America forevermore.
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That's what it said. And you and I have been at and you and I have been at odds about this a million times, Roger. I'm gonna tell you, we don't have central banks. We have Federal Reserve Banks, and there is a drastic difference between the way they were set up. That's a central bank. The Federal Reserve Bank is a central bank, Julie. K. Let me finish, please. We're rolling out stable coin. They're the same thing as a central bank digital currency. They are programmed. They are available. They are trackable. They are traceable. You can program them to expire. You can program stablecoins so that they don't work on certain purchase purchases.
You can program them so they don't work at all if you don't have your vaccine mandate. I know a lot about the genius bill, and I know a lot about the told us about the WHO yesterday, by the way. I know. I get it.
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Well, I don't know that you do. Roger.
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Yeah. I do. It doesn't matter about the WHO. The who doesn't matter, Roger. We have all of these regulations about vaccine mandates are down. Regulations.
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State level. Regulation. They have to enforce it. They have to they Julie, they have to enforce it regulatorily. You just said it. We don't have that attachment.
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We just potentially have to do
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it. I love you, but you're always so sensationalist. You just one of these things come by and you just grab it and blow up the hell up.
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Well, I'm I've read the, better, the big betrayal bill and the genius act, and I know where this is all going into the digital financial I heard a guy that's id.me and the I heard a guy, for an hour and a over an hour on Alex that's intimately familiar with this from its origins in the first Trump administration,
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and he doesn't want this stuff either. And that bill has been working since he was in office the first time.
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Okay. Well, Roger, you and I can be you and I can just agree to disagree, and I yield. I love you too. Alright. Who else is trying to say something there? Is that Samuel again? Roger, I just wanted to am I on? Yes. Go on. I'm muted. No. You're Iman.
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I, I just wanted to add to Rupert Murdoch. In that in one of those pieces, I don't know which one because the format is a little different in in in in every one of them. They're three hours long. So, anyway, Rupert Murdoch owns the publishing companies that publish all these new Bibles. He also is an honorary, like Jesuit and a Catholic church member in that regard. And he also publishes through another company, the satanic bible. So that's mister Murdoch for you. One of those camels that can't get through the eye of the needle.
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In my opinion. Not a not a very good guy. I I don't think anybody disagree with you.
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K? Yeah. I love it that Trump's involved in building that. Level too. It's at a spiritual level is all my point was really. He's not just a financial guy. Okay. Well, I don't think anybody disagree with you.
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Yes, Julie.
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No. It's Sherry. Sherry, where have you been? Have you heard about the report, that, Tulsi
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Gabbard put out yesterday? I heard something about Tulsi. They got her sedan marginalized, but, yes, I did hear something. I don't quite remember what it was.
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Treason against, the country for usurping the power of the people regarding interference with the twenty sixteen election by the, CIA and cabinet members.
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2016 or 2020?
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2016 under Obama and his cabinet members. Okay.
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So Alright. Well, go after them, Tulsa. Bring something out. They got you so damn marginalized. And every one of those meetings, they don't you're not even in the camera. You're way down at the other end of the table.
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And that might be why because, you know, this report wasn't made in a day.
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So Well, they you know, the the main reason that started is because she came out with the with our intelligence thing saying Iran does not have a bomb, and they have no desire to have one. Well, that went absolutely counter to the damn bastards wanting to take over Iran and do a regime change and get their foot in the door with a with a nuclear weapon excuse, and so they started marginalizer. And he there's a guy named Sergei a Gore. Sergei a Gore, Sherry. I'd never heard his name before this week. He is a he's been caught lying already. He said he was from Malta, and he's from one of those f, a stand countries.
And he's a Jew. It's really Goroskofsky or was some crap. And he's the guy that ok's every person added to the Trump staff. That's how deep they've got him. Susie Wiles, this guy, all the other people that just stroke Israel, stroke Israel. We gotta get these people exposed, folks. There's one way we can do it. This is the power we've got to get numbers of people and pull ourselves out of the tax system. So now they gotta eat their own debt. That's the, impact we got right there. And it's enough already. They're they're already super conscious of it. You can see by what they do. Okay? And have been since I started teaching this fourteen years ago because of the sodomy pedophile larceny center, monitor and r b n. They've known about this for years. That's one of the things I wanna ask Anne. Why have you never heard my name before?
Because I got accurate information, and they won't give me any press. And we've had to give you one person at a time. Yes.
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Correct. I think the important part of her report is the usurpation of the people, which draws in the national state citizen status. Absolutely. So if there's no people who were really usurped, what's the point of that report? Do you see what I'm saying? How can, it move forward with, indictments and, prosecutions. That's my point. The most important part was her using the language of usurping the will of the people. Right. And we really, I think, need to latch on that. Now you should probably doesn't understand how it was usurped.
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Okay? Yeah. It's a it's a messy situation. I mean, don't forget, go back to Louis t McFadden, the 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden. I've got excerpts in my book. One of his statements, they control every major office here in Washington. That was in 1933. It's been almost a hundred years. How complete do you think their control is now? You can see it. But nobody knows where it came from. Nobody knows how they've taken control, and they just kinda try and fight it like Don Quixote going, well, I think I'll go waste my time jousting at some windmills. Yeah. Let's do that. That's all they're doing.
So hopefully this thing with Anne will help us turn a corner. She's incredibly connected and if she gets and it's already seems like, I don't know what Dave told her. Dave, did you mention the feudal system to her?
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Roger, I I tried to just keep the topic fairly high level because I didn't wanna get into the weeds
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Okay.
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And and risk, you know, saying something
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not exactly correct. You know? And I You know? Yeah. I mean You're the end. So And I appreciate that. But That's a big that's a big piece everybody's missing. It's the feudal system. Go ahead. I'm sorry to step on you. You Didn't like the allergy. Alright. I you know, she,
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she's got a a a I mean, she touched on some historical aspects, but, again, I I didn't get down the weeds, and I didn't wanna show my ignorance
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either. So Alright. Well, just please please tell her we've got a coordinated time, and my engineer will facilitate a call.
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Yeah. And Roger, she'll I I believe she'll be very respectful and open minded. She will be. Definitely. And, you know, I just wanna note too that after our call and, you know, she had looked at the website and does, very complimentary and said, I'm gonna tell folks about this. We saw a jump in our visitors. So, I mean, that kinda indicates kinda what may happen, after your you know, this if this interview comes to fruition. And
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but, anyway, the more resources we have out there for people to read and see, I think the better for sure. That's right. I agree. And a number of you, Marika too, and you and Kaye and Devon and and, and several others have contributed. Gary and Gina, good good lord. Let's not forget them. But all of y'all have taken your time, motivated by the message and and set up these resources for folks and appreciate all of you doing it. Okay? So, that's what this has got to be a team effort. I cannot do it by myself. Fortunately, I've been doing it by myself long enough to where we've built some kind of a substantial foundation. I don't know how large it is. Jeff Rentz wrote me back in the email exchange and said, you've got a very large audience. So according to him, there's a lot of people out there. You wouldn't know it by the people that attend our daily shows here, but I don't doubt that. People get this. They go on about their lives. Okay?
I just try and get you to understand. You got to have command of the information or you are not free. You're not free if you don't. You're just some looking for somebody to answer a damn question for you when you get confronted. You got to learn the information or we can't affect change. Period. I think that's what all of us want. I don't want any damn funds out of this, so I don't charge you. K? I don't need your money. I want you to have your your Babble box. Okay. Who's got some? Austin, did you show up yet? K. Austin didn't make it.
Unfortunately. Roger. Roger.
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Oh, okay. Roger, it's me. Yes, Julie. I just wanted to let you know I texted him and I didn't hear back, which means he's probably working. He has to work on Saturdays as well. Okay. Okay. Alright.
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And and and and part of the reason I reacted to you the way I do, Julie, is because I've been around so long, and I've seen so many of these scares and people go ballistic over it, and then they never happen or something happens. It's derailed. I'm just not affected by that anymore. K? So I've been around this a long time. Julie, I've been around this I've been in now, Julie, now you listen. I'm your elder. I've been around this rodeo a long time. A long time. Thirty three years. K? Just to let you know, I've learned a lot. K? Now what were you gonna say?
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Roger,
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that's why I'm on your show every day. That's why I appreciate you so much. That's why I constantly get the word out about you. But when it comes to this financial stuff and genius health stuff, again, I love you, but we'll disagree disagree on Well, it's a you look, I heard the guy cover it that's an expert on it, Julie, far more than you. He was on Okay. So then if you if if he's such an expert, get on Martin Eck, get on Martin Economics Economics and read his spiel about the Genius Bill. You respect him a lot too. Oh, okay. And he does exactly learn to think about the Genius Bill on his website there right now. They they're they say strongeconomics.com.
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According to this guy, they say that this law curtails any any of of of introduction, the CDBC central bank digital currency because it is communism. Because it is communism.
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Begging
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you to get on Armstrong Economic Not gonna get on Armstrong. I don't give a damn Send you the article. No. I'm not gonna read it. I can't read. It's hard for me to read.
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K. Martin Armstrong explains how the CBDC comes in through the Genius Act. I yield.
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Alright. You believe it. I look, guys. I'm 77 tomorrow. I'm not gonna have to worry about it. K? It'll never happen in in Ecuador. Never. And I can promise you that. Okay? So you guys, if you wanna stay in some place that might happen, that's your choice or your situation. I can't help that. They're gonna do it in Europe. They're gonna start doing it later this year in Germany. CBDC official. K? Yes. Who's trying to say something?
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This is Christian Reinder. Hey, Christian. How are you doing? I'm I'm I'm enjoying everything, but, you know, if they would just let wisdom talk, if they would not interrupt you. And when I see people running over you, I miss, I miss a lot of what you're trying to say. Yeah.
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So,
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I just wish people would let you hear say what you're gonna say instead of just trying to run over you. Well, they can't have a lift. They think they think we can have a two way conversation. A dot is called, oh, duplex. They we can't have a duplex conversation here. We gotta do one at a time. And, yeah, some of the people out there, they get so excited and so emotional that they can't help but jump in there and and and do and do what you're talking about. Yep. I just wanted to I'll say, yeah. Is there anybody that's been around this shooting match longer than me? Is there anybody in the audience that's been involved with this heavily for more than thirty three years? I know Tom Dee has. Any of you others?
Well, there you go. K?
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Nothing. Well, thank you, Roger. I just wanted to say that because if we just listen to wisdom and stop running over you when you're trying to make a point.
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Can I give you an example of sensationalism and hysteria? Can I give you a real good Yeah? Example? Y February.
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Yes.
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K.
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Oh, god. All the computer. What happened? Nothing.
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No. No. A lot happened in y two k. A lot of it because they spent the entire previous year adding patches and backdoors to every significant network system globally just under the under the hoax of the y two k. There was software being patched and doors being opened.
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Alright. There's a number of other examples I could go with just so that one comes to mind. K? Because everybody was so freaked out. We had all those expos. Everybody's buying a a damn storeroom full of food for y two k and all this, and, well, it just came and went.
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Yeah. K. There's
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others. There's others. I could probably name if I think about it for a minute, but just I don't buy into hysteria anymore.
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K?
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Mhmm.
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So go ahead, Paul.
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We may only have, oh, 50 or 60 people in free conference call. But, last week's unique listeners was 357. Last month's, was 1,199. Last thirty days total downloads, 3,364. Last week, 872 people downloaded the program. So you have an audience.
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Okay. Well, we're growing. You know? I know it's slow and, but, boy, it's, it's it's starting to heat up. It's starting to heat up right there. And here we are sitting on the sidelines with a foundation of people Right. Not nearly enough and waiting with all these other events that are happening and hoping that we can slip our foot right in the door. And with somebody with influence can get on one of these big platforms. And, buddy, if we can accomplish that, I I think I'm trying not to be have too many expectations. I think we might be off to to the races. So we'll see. Well, I'm hoping it'll happen. One foot in front of the other.
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I'm I'm hoping it'll happen, but, what did we do today? We made an announcement that, you know, there could be doors opening. We know that there's new people listening to the program. And we've spent almost the last ninety minutes just rehashing, old, for lack of a better word, bullshit. So
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we didn't put our best foot forward on this program if a bunch of new people are listening, trying to figure out if they actually wanna interview you or not. It's too bad that Austin, didn't show up today. I kinda had into again, anticipated that he'd be here. And for whatever reasons, he's not with us. K? Mhmm. But he'll be back. If he's interested, he'll be back. If he's not, he won't.
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Right.
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Next. Roger, I think Austin put together such a great deal on silver and gold for your listeners that he's having. He's just struggling dragging that giant bag of gold and silver coins into the room. He needs help.
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Okay, Dave. Well, maybe somebody will help you. So who else has got something we can discuss that's not adversarial or sensational, please?
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I got Hey, Raj. Did you hear Marjorie Taylor Greene, what she said about that, that vote the other day in the in the house or something that it was the longest open vote, and it was on the CBDC, and she was the only one that voted no when they finally shut it down at midnight. I didn't Johnson made a deal. No. I did not hear that. You gotta pull her up.
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You gotta pull her up. I try and watch her today. I I like her. Pretty incredible. I try and watch her every time she's on somewhere. I I can't do everything. K?
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I know. But, well, this is what basically, what she said was she was the only one. It was the longest open vote in in congressional history. They had that thing open till midnight. I don't know when they opened it, but she said she was the only one that voted no. And Johnson finally shut it down because he made a deal that he would put it in the NDAA, that would ban the CBDC. And she said he he already knows he doesn't have the votes to do that, and it's coming. She says it's coming.
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Well, if it is That's all I'm that's what I'm If you don't wanna deal with it, you better get your ass out of The US and Europe and some place that's safe and still uses the dollar. That'd be my suggestion. You got a number of countries as an option. K.
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Roger, may I?
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Julie, I guess so. You're gonna
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go off on us again or what? No. I'm gonna read no. I'm gonna read you what, what what is this sketch right here? I'm gonna read you exactly what Marjorie Taylor Greene just tweeted. I just voted no on the rule for the Genius Act because it does not include a ban on central bank digital currency and because speaker Johnson did not allow us to submit amendments to the Genius Act. Americans do not want a government controlled central bank digital currency, and she goes on and on on her, her her post on x. I'll let everybody go there. And I'm on Armstrong Economics. He posted her whole entire tweet on his, on his site, and he says he says on here, the government is turning the stablecoin into a digital top dollar. The concern here is that this could delve into digitizing all currency and creating a CBDC.
The act specifically provides the government with the authority to block, freeze, and reject specific or impermissible transactions. And so, if you can go on Armstrong Economics, it's posted right in front, and he's got receipts. I yield
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Alrighty. Well, that won't happen in Ecuador. K? So that's where I am. That's my concern. If you guys don't wanna deal with all that, then get out. K? So that's my suggestion. Where else can we go? Pardon me, Tom?
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Do you have a spare bedroom?
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Yeah. Or lots of spare bedrooms? No. I do not. But, but they're they're overbuilding down here. I think everybody thinks it's because of the drug money, so there's a lot of availability. You wouldn't believe the construction that's going on down here for some country where the average income is less $500 a month. You wouldn't believe it. It's got to be drug money. I go to the big mall down there, and there's all these, hell, Tommy Hilfinger has half a floor. I don't think I've ever in eight years, seven years, however long I've been here, I don't think I've ever seen a customer in there when I walk by. Ever. And there's a with a bunch of those stores over there. K? So I don't know. I just live here. I like it.
I'm in pretty good shape. So, the last part of my, existence here on this earth, I think, is gonna be pretty good. But it's because I made the right decisions a long time ago to be here. And and so, I feel very blessed, but yet I work to to have an understanding to be able to make these decisions and be here and be out of debt and not have any of this crap and have all my savings in something that's the highest producing asset since the turn of the century of any asset class. Those are those are decisions I made because of knowledge and understanding I had. And if you'll do that, you'll be able to make the same correct decisions.
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Joan's
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been trying to get in here. Joan, I'm sorry, sweetie. How are you?
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Good.
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Roger, can you hear me loud enough? Well, I hear you. I don't know if it's loud enough, but I can hear you.
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Hey. Marjorie Taylor Green. Would you, you know, remember, Bradley Dean and Tim Brown from Sons of Liberty?
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Yes. Well, I yeah. I
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saw I saw something from them, yesterday about Marjorie Taylor Greene, if you would like to hear it.
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Okay. Go ahead. I don't have,
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the Okay. Well, I mean, let me know what you think. Here it is. Marjorie Taylor Greene bought stock in Planeteer on April 8. Yeah. On April 17 on April 17, and she did the same thing with the pharmaceutical companies. Okay. And and, on April you do know?
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No. I don't. I've heard that before. Yes. But I can't help that all that stuff. I thought most of those congressmen put any of their their stuff in blind trust when they did that. I don't know. Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to be pretty straight ahead to me. I like what she says, and people are even floating her name to run for president. So I don't know about all that stuff, Joan.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Just because she took money from Peter t just because she took Pete money from Peter Thiel, that doesn't sway me either. Okay?
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Well
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Okay.
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MJT is not a far cry from DJT. We could follow a theme.
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No. MTJ. DJT. D j.
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No. Never mind. Forget it. Forget it. Forget it. My my brain is You don't Yeah. Thank you. Short of
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go get another cup of coffee. Yes. Who else has got something to add?
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Jerry. Roger, I have a question.
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Okay.
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My question is, is it This is Robby. Where you're at is on the dollar. Can you please identify
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yourself? This is Sherry. This is Sherry. Okay. Well, I thought you were Robbie. We hadn't seen you. How long has it been how long has it been since we saw you last? Six months?
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It's been a while. Okay. Yeah. And that's okay. I'm back. My question is if, the dollar in America is being transformed, doesn't that affect every country that uses the dollar? No. No. It doesn't.
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They've got a number of countries that use the dollar. We're one of them. I Think Panama is one of them. There I think there's a Caribbean island or two. There's another Argentina, I believe, now is using the dollar. So they cannot stop printing dollars because they control these countries with the dollar. For us here, when when Correio, the communist was in, he tried to do a a a a country digital, and the people would not accept it. And then after he was gone, they passed a law that no retailer in the country can take Bitcoin. And I assume that's the other cyber currencies too. This is, you know, indigenous 50% of people, they want the dollar, baby.
They want the dollar. And those other countries are about the same way. So, no, they will not be able to stop printing
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dollars. That's a quick question.
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Hold it. Let me make sure Sherry understands that. You you get that?
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Yes. It's still you know, some people are gonna have the ability to say no to it, but, you know, the fourteenth amendment citizens of
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America will not be. Is that pretty much the bottom line? Well, if if all these people are say saying it's true and it comes true, it ain't gonna be in Europe, they're evidently gonna start it in Germany or something with the EU, I think, this fall, October, maybe. But, my understanding is they're not gonna be able to do that in The US. Other people have different understandings. Okay? Yes, Julie. You may.
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Yeah. The stablecoin, which is gonna be, USDT, USDT, and Tether are going to be the they're going to be the new world's reserve digital currency. That's all over The Wall Street Journal. It's all over Bloomberg, and it's gonna be blockchain assets backed by deposit and treasury securities. And that is the new dollar based revolution happening throughout the entire world. And this is going to be the Stablecoin is gonna be a way to get US based dollars or stable coin backed by the US dollar and treasury, securities in the hands of every common woman and man in every country. Yep. They're already using it for remittances
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because Wells Fargo charges two to 5% depending on when you pick it up. And, so now these people up there that do the remittances can just go get Tether and they send it with no cost, basically. Okay? And I'm and that's gonna help me I'm gonna tell you, that's gonna help me a lot because I cannot leave the country under my current circumstances until I get this visa thing straightened out. But my buddy in Buenos Aires, which has got a much bigger market for that, can go down and exchange it, put it in Tether, and send it to me, and I can use it then, hopefully, to get this situation overcome. But I'm waiting until the damn gold spikes.
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Because I'm I'm waiting for Pardon me? I'm waiting for, XRP to go up. XRP could be the new cross border payment system worldwide. And, I bought my, XRP at 50¢ and yes. That's Ripple. And, you got Stellar, which is XLM. I tell people, go get yourself some XRP, XLM. I got 10000% increases on my investments in in those in those, specific ISO two zero zero two two cryptocurrency coins. They're gonna be the wave of the future when it comes to this digital currency system that's rolling out at warp speed. So, they're predicting XRP to go up to over $200. So get yourself some XRP, XLM, HBAR, and some of these ISO two zero zero two two coins, I yield. Okay. If you if you're worried about upside $3 XRP's at $3.50 already.
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If you got a lot of upside left and you wanna speculate over there, do that. Okay? I'm I'm a I'm a precious metals guy. I don't have a lot of time left on this earth. I ain't putting my money in any of that crap. K? Period. Yes, Paul.
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Question for Samuel. The great bible hoax of 1881, is that a video? Is it two hours and forty nine minutes and forty seconds long? And is it a publication of parable?
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Does it say parable, right, like, within the first few seconds? Although they're an affirmative, I do believe, Paul, and it should be Christopher Pinto and his wife in in that one. Okay.
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Well, the great Bible the great Bible hoax of 1881, two hours forty nine minutes and forty seconds is available on YouTube on the Flight of Faith channel or the Fight of Faith.
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Sorry, Samuel. I ain't putting three hours into that video. Sorry, buddy. You can send it to me over and over again. I ain't watching three hours of it.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
Well well, Roger, you know, our freedom is important to us, of course, but this is ultimately a spiritual battle. Okay. We shouldn't lose sight of it. I think I've I think I've got a pretty good handle on the spiritual area.
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So thank you, though.
[01:39:45] Unknown:
Well, you when you have important points, Roger, you make them over and over again because that's what we need. Yeah. I know. We need the repetitive and the Drill practice rehearse. K. Drill practice rehearse. Yep. Alright.
[01:39:59] Unknown:
So, okay. Who, who else has got something here? We got a few minutes left in the show. What? Twenty, maybe? Twenty minutes? Twenty. Since Austin didn't show up, tell him we're sorry we missed him. There if you would, Julie, when you talk to him or connect with him, and, when he can, we're here if he wants to move forward. Totally his choice. Who else can we touch touch up on today? By the way, I've got this, Logan, a guy named Logan. Sowing prosperity is his channel on YouTube, and it's on the thirty first, which is interesting because that's the day that I started my own show. It was July 31. It's another one of those important dates this month. And he's wanting to talk about down here, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and El Salvador, some of those places. So I'll probably talk to him ahead of time if we can overcome this stupid ass situation that Microsoft and Skype have created.
Hopefully, my magicJack will come in sometime soon here, Paul. We'll see. And that is one of the limitations of living down here. There are other ways. There do they do have some kind of, oh, you can get Amazon shipments and stuff like that. I hate Amazon, really. I'm sorry. And, but those are available too, but I have not availed myself of them. They I have very specialized needs on things up there like magicJack or, try and buy, supplements through AJ. So, anyway, it's always the battle of living here is getting stuff down here, especially since COVID. Is Amazon.
Got a new I'll bet. Oh, there's Tom. Hey, Tom. How long you've been in this patching the radio, Tom? Yeah. I know forty years. Right?
[01:42:00] Unknown:
Seventy nines.
[01:42:02] Unknown:
Well, you were ahead of me by a decade.
[01:42:07] Unknown:
Well, it's been, yeah, 1979, nineteen eighties when I first got wind to all this.
[01:42:14] Unknown:
So So I had a suspicion, but I didn't have a thread to run on until '92.
[01:42:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. There was, well, I was working in nuclear power, so there was a big hubbub about it. You know? People were all filing exempt w fours and, you know, what and and in fact, I think even prior to that, somebody had approached me even before then was, about all this. And I just I said, you know, you're crazy. You're out of your mind. Get away from me. Yeah. That's fine. You know? And then if somebody hit me at the right time with the right, you know, with the right conversation, you know, just kinda like what you did. And, you know, and all the groups and all with all the material and all the meetings and videos and audios and booklets and pamphlets and every other damn thing that I had come in contact with.
I've been looking for your looking for your, information for, you know, for forty years, and there it was. It was right there. Yeah. And what was the shame was that you and I ran in some of the same circles and never never crossed paths. Yeah. Well, there you go, folks. Right from the horse's mouth.
[01:43:26] Unknown:
Pardon me, Tom. I'm not referring to you as mister Ed or anything.
[01:43:30] Unknown:
You're good, mister Ed. A horse You know, you were just talking about the yep. You're talking about the gold stuff. You know, I listened to think I sent you that, Miles Franklin. You did. I haven't had a chance to watch it. Check, man. I haven't had a chance to No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No and, you know, even though I can't afford it, but they're they're selling, junk silver at, Spot.
[01:44:00] Unknown:
Yeah. No premium. No. No. No premium on junk silver at Miles Franklin, folks.
[01:44:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Dimes and quarters. And then they said they'll even take if you've got bullion, like, if you got some I guess, I don't I don't I don't think I've ever seen anything bigger than a 10 ounce bar. But, if you got bars, they'll swap them out for junk silver for, like, 2%. Guess that's pretty good. I don't know a lot about it. But I had a 100 ounce bar of silver that got stolen,
[01:44:26] Unknown:
of course.
[01:44:28] Unknown:
Oh, goodness.
[01:44:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I had a 170 ounces of it. A 100 ounce bar was one. The rest were tens. And had a hurricane down there, and and my mother wouldn't do all the shit that was right and got a a charlatan in there, found it in up in her closet in her bathroom, stole it. All all the stuff that my father and I. My dad and I, we got into this coin thing when we were in Alaska. And he'd drop by the bank there on base and get a $100 worth of coins or so. And we'd spend the whole weekend with a card table open going through those coins and trying to fill those little blue books with the right date and mint mark. Add all that stuff. Well, all that got stolen too. Had six or 10 rolls of uncirculated brand new $19.64 dimes. That got stolen too. It's just one thing after another, folks. You just gotta watch yourself.
[01:45:23] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:45:24] Unknown:
Oh, it just makes me I I if I think please don't let me dwell on that because I'll get really pissed. Okay? So I'd rather not.
[01:45:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Don't feel bad. My brother my brother stole all the gold coins that my grandfather left for me and my and the rest of our siblings and spent them at 07:11.
[01:45:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, there's another one. I have a friend whose daddy collected all those old coins. And when he died, all of a sudden, his whole coin collection went missing. So you gotta be very careful with this stuff. Yeah. I'm telling you. So I've learned to read just recently here. Even though you know somebody over thirty two years, they stab your ass in the back. You you do you do not know who to trust in this life. I'm I hate to say that.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
The seven Eleven food brand called Go Yum?
[01:46:20] Unknown:
Dave, what was that?
[01:46:23] Unknown:
I said, was he buying the seven Eleven food brand called Go Yum? You know, it's a Jewish company, seven Eleven, and they were their food brand is called Go Yum. Isn't every company a Jewish company, Dave?
[01:46:41] Unknown:
Isn't virtually every company a Jewish company they're owned at some percentage of the stock by BlackRock, State Street, or whatever the other one is, vault Vulture Capital, whatever it is. Yeah.
[01:46:57] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what we're started seven eleven because the goi weren't getting nutritious enough food. So, you know Well, I don't know. I heard I actually met the grandson of the founder of seven eleven. Oh, really? And,
[01:47:10] Unknown:
yeah, they just they just started out as a little as a little,
[01:47:16] Unknown:
store, you know,
[01:47:17] Unknown:
selling ice. And and then all of a sudden, you know, they, said, you know, people could come in here wanting, you know, want some of this, want some of that, and that's how seven eleven started.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
I heard, Tom, if you marry an Indian gal and scratch that dot on her forehead off, you might win one.
[01:47:37] Unknown:
Oh, I thought that was a push start.
[01:47:41] Unknown:
Is that somebody with a comment there? Was that Joe? Did I hear Joe? I thought I heard Joe. Okay. Well, we're edging towards the edge of the program. If you've got anything you wanna say or whatever, your time is, quickly evaporating. Come forward, please.
[01:48:01] Unknown:
Hey, Dee.
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Hello there.
[01:48:04] Unknown:
Were you about 25 years old in 1979?
[01:48:11] Unknown:
Well, I was born in '55. So
[01:48:14] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Okay. Wow. So you you heard about all this, like, what Roger's involved with, since 1979. Great. Wow.
[01:48:24] Unknown:
There's a picture of you. I met Erwin Shiff in, '81, I think. And, 8080 or '81, I forget when. But, somewhere right around that neck of the neighborhood at the time. So,
[01:48:39] Unknown:
When did Gary North And then Gary North that wrote None Dare Call It Conspiracy or None Dare Call It Treason, both of those books were out in the streets. Yep. John?
[01:48:49] Unknown:
Yep. And they were in Yeah. I think they still have that original copy. Do you really? Yep. I think I still have that. God, you're a packer. Yeah. I got a whole bunch. I mean, I got a file cabinet full of stuff from the back in the eighties. And, oh my goodness. Just so much stuff out there. But, yeah. Tom is Hey, Roger.
[01:49:14] Unknown:
Tom is about the only person I know that's been in this longer than me, possibly Gary here. Hey, Gary. How are you doing?
[01:49:22] Unknown:
Oh, pretty good. I wanna give everybody a hint on how to get some silver cheap, real cheap. Start going to rummage sales and buy all the jewelry you can find at 9 if that's 0.97 silver. Then take it to your local coin dealer, and they'll buy it from you And then turn that into cash or turn it into silver, whichever you choose. But you can pick up silver jewelry at rummage sales and stuff for 50¢, whatever. And instead of right now, it's gonna be worth $20.
[01:50:04] Unknown:
Yeah. There you go.
[01:50:07] Unknown:
Yeah. And you get rolls of buy rolls of penny. Get rolls of pennies everywhere you can go through and pull out all the 1981 and older pennies. You can sell a 50¢ roll of pennies on eBay for three times, face value. Then you can take that and convert it if you want.
[01:50:26] Unknown:
Okay. All kinds of Yeah. There's a lot of Roger. Hold on hold on a second, Sherry. Times you
[01:50:32] Unknown:
Go ahead, Gary. A lot of times you can find some gold jewelry, you know, 10 karat, 14 karat, and
[01:50:41] Unknown:
there you're talking some big bucks. I I knew somebody that bought bought a real diamond at a flea market.
[01:50:50] Unknown:
Well, I bought way more than one at Remington Flea Markets.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Chris and Shane Gina's got a Go ahead. Gina's finish up. Gary, and we'll get to Chris and Shane. Well, Gina's got a whole back full of sterling silver,
[01:51:09] Unknown:
and we're getting ready to cash it in this week just to convert it to $9.09 9. Yep. I mean, it's $7.02 5, but
[01:51:17] Unknown:
just convert it to $9.09 9. Well, evidently, silver So, anyway, there you go. Gold has had its run. I've taken advantage of that. Now, evidently, according to Kirk Elliott, silver is about ready too, and the, the the ratio is going down now currently on silver to gold. So yep. Alright. Hold on. I we had, we had Chris from California was was in there and then Shane. Chris, what do you got? Oh, Chris? Chris, you're trying back into listen only mode. Okay. Thank you, Tom. Good to hear your voice. We haven't seen you in a little while. Thank you.
[01:52:00] Unknown:
Chris, you're counting around. I just haven't had time to jump into the call. Okay. So if you ever need me, just holler. If I'm here, I'll jump on. I will, buddy. Thank you. Chris I have something after Chris.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
Well, no. Shane's after Chris, but we'll get you after Shane. Chris, do you have anything or not? If not, I'm gonna skip over you. Shane, what do you got?
[01:52:21] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Shane, the thing is is that I really wanna get this book into every everyone's hands. We're gonna try, Paul. We're gonna try, Shane. We're trying. We that's a priority. Okay?
[01:52:33] Unknown:
Enough said.
[01:52:36] Unknown:
Alright. Enough said then. Okay. Alright. Who's the female?
[01:52:40] Unknown:
I think I think Shane was trying to share a book, and then I have something for you, Roger. He was trying to give us inspiration to get the book on. I know it's a problem. We're trying to get it, overcome a couple of obstacles. Paul, have you gotten the book from Alan yet? If not, you should get it this week. Right? Having a hard time today. Paul, you there? Did you go off chasing the cat? What's going on? Roger, I just wanted to say happy birthday. Happy birthday. That'll be tomorrow. Thank you very much. Yep. Y'all say happy birthday to me tomorrow. We won't be together.
Okay. Now who else is trying Chris was there, didn't show up. We heard from Shane. Wasn't there a female after that? Hold on. Was there a female after Shane? Or was that Merka? That was me, Roger. Okay. It was Merka. Alright. Who's saying Roger there?
[01:53:38] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. It's David. Yeah, Dave. Yeah. Real quick. I literally just got a text from miss Vandersteel, and Zoom or WhatsApp would work for her. Monday will be Okay. We'll shoot her my number. Yep.
[01:53:54] Unknown:
And
[01:53:55] Unknown:
and tell her to I will. And,
[01:53:58] Unknown:
go ahead. I or tell her to connect with me or I, if she if she could do that with my eyes and my fingers and those damn cell phones, I have a really hard time. Okay?
[01:54:10] Unknown:
No. I did I told her you were challenged your vision. You had challenges with your vision and and, you know, she understands. So I don't think that's a problem. I think, soon y'all talk and
[01:54:23] Unknown:
we get this locked up, the better. Right? So Okay. Well, I'm sure if she suggested it, I'd I'm sure you told her I accepted. So if nothing else, we got the sixth and the seventh nailed down. She wants to talk to me before. Just tell her to add add me into WhatsApp or I could try. I got her number. You sent it in that email this morning. I could try and do it. I need to go and remember to go out by a computer store and see if I can buy one of those damn little pins that you can
[01:54:52] Unknown:
I'll I'll share your WhatsApp,
[01:54:54] Unknown:
number with her, and, we'll we'll get y'all to do. Alright. Okay. Tell her I'm except for these two hours, I'm usually pretty free. If she calls, sometimes my phone doesn't ring. Don't ask me why. I don't know. I'll just see a message that so and so called. It never rang all day. So I might have that obstacle. So I got some obstacles down here, Dave. Okay? Please tell her that. Roger. If not, it'll show she called, and I'll call her back.
[01:55:25] Unknown:
Okay. We'll do. And one other topic, Ron Gibson passed away, I think, last night. Did he? Oh. Yeah. Yep. He was K. They had him in ICU, and and he passed away. So, she brought that up because she she was hoping to get a chance to work with him on some stuff. But, anyway, yeah, that was sad sad loss, by the way. Well, it is. And I'm sorry. We had mister Gibson on the show with Brent one Friday years ago, about 2021,
[01:55:55] Unknown:
I think. And, yeah, he seemed to be a nice guy. Samuel's the one that turned us on to him. I've never heard of him before that. So, but I'm not sure how effective his approach was,
[01:56:09] Unknown:
honestly. Well, we're Kaye and I took his course. Gosh. It's been two years, and Kaye's been steadily, you know, generating our chain of title back to the land patent. So Right. We're gonna find out. And in the county, in in every county, property, office is different how they approach things. That's true. So we'll we'll I'll keep you I'll keep the group posted on that. Okay.
[01:56:37] Unknown:
Thank you, Dave. Sorry to hear about mister Gibson. Yes, Samuel.
[01:56:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to mention, of course, I don't know anything about it because I'm not tech savvy, but you should be able to voice command instead of text by hand.
[01:56:55] Unknown:
I I might be able to. I don't I can't read any instructions or anything. K? Maybe it could helps have somebody who's a little tech savvy to help you set it up, and then you can do it that way. I might could. I don't know about that. K. But I sure have a hard time with them some bitches. I just don't like them. K?
[01:57:15] Unknown:
Roger, what's what time zone are you in, by the way? Central this time of year. Eastern
[01:57:20] Unknown:
the other time. If we change, I think Trump said we weren't gonna do the change anymore after this fall, so I don't I don't know. This time of year, I'm in central time. But you see, the problem is Ecuador does not change. I have to change my schedule so we can do this. So everybody else is still the same old time.
[01:57:43] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:57:45] Unknown:
I'll shoot you an email as a follow-up, Roger. Alright. Please, Dave. Please don't don't give me too many of those large paragraphs. I just I I strange my eyes so much. Yep. Unless you break it down into a couple of sentences or something with spaces. And then some people don't even know what a paragraph is. Evidently, they never learn. Okay? Because they'll just do one big long thing, and I just I can't read it. I'm sorry. Will do, Rogers. Now what I need Sorry about that. There's a way inside Windows 11 where the computer can read it for you, but I don't know how to do that.
[01:58:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll I'll keep it short and and separate and,
[01:58:29] Unknown:
accommodate you for sure. Okay. Thank you, Dave. Alright. You got about a minute or two left. Anybody got some wrap up here?
[01:58:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Back to, precious metals. Pointed at a mint is what money is. But, anybody ever give, platinum or palladium,
[01:58:49] Unknown:
a look see? Lots of those metal.
[01:58:54] Unknown:
One of them pull up platinum metal. Schecter, from Miles Franklin. That's what he like. He likes platinum stuff. There's a few of them. Platinum's gone up a lot, but, yeah, I I don't mess with either one of them. I want something common. Those are very specialty metals.
[01:59:13] Unknown:
I see. Yeah. But, they seem to be well, I don't know. You say they've gone up. I haven't checked it. I heard well, I heard Sheckman talking about it on an issue on an
[01:59:25] Unknown:
couple of weeks ago. Yeah. But, see, here's the problem. If you take that to somebody, you wanna sell it. You say this is platinum palladium, and they're going, well, hell, it looks like silver to me. I think you're bullshitting me. Okay?
[01:59:39] Unknown:
Get it? Yeah. That's a that's a fair point.
[01:59:44] Unknown:
Unless you're a very sophisticated unless you're a very sophisticated investor, I'd say stick with basics, gold or silver. But if you're sophisticated and wanna branch off, knock yourself out. K? Alright. Greg, is that the The merchant deed Go ahead, please.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Yeah, Roger. And least we not forget that this is a process, and, truth seekers are always trying to seek the truth and, you know, cherish that. That's what I value the most, and it's it's not easy to find.
[02:00:29] Unknown:
I mean, we're surrounded by lies. Right? I'm a tell you, the world does not like the truth. K? I'm promising you that it doesn't like the truth. It wants to be in this little pink cloud of these lies because they feel so comfortable in there. They do not want to face the things they've not been programmed for. That's my that's why I tell you guys are so special, man. I mean, look, I've been looking for you for fourteen years. Fourteen years. You're very rare. I appreciate and love each and every one of you. Alright? And, here we go. Towards the end of the program, one more little verse here from Crosby, Sils, and Nash, and we're gonna go away and have an abbreviated weekend. And that's what we're gonna do.
So does anybody else have anything for me at this point on Saturday?
[02:01:29] Unknown:
That is I'd just like to mention one more thing.
[02:01:33] Unknown:
Go ahead, Joan. Joan, is there any way we could get Joan more upfront? Is it your phone? Or what is it, Joan, that you always sound so distant? I don't know, but I'm sorry. You're good. Into the microphone. You weren't you weren't talking into the microphone. Well, a 100% better right there. Please talk directly in the microphone. Gracias. Gracias Chica. Okay. What was your, comment, Samuel?
[02:02:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Gold and silver is fine, but, if we hit a real snag in the road, storable foods like the twenty five year foods and and potable water, Storable foods would be off the shelves in three days, so it doesn't matter whether you've got gold or silver. You won't be able to buy it. You won't be able to eat if you don't have some kind of stores. Priorities. So you should put your money in food and and water first. Make sure that's gonna be there. If it's gonna get that bad, you you you better have some lead too, buddy, because they're gonna be coming after your food and water.
[02:02:40] Unknown:
So, let's hope it doesn't get that bad. It might. Don't know.
[02:02:47] Unknown:
K? It won't take much to wipe things out. Just a hiccup, really. I mean, we we don't we don't have any backups anywheres in this country. I I think they even sucked down the the oil reserve, didn't they? Oh, Biden did. Yeah.
[02:03:02] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:03:03] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody got anything for me? Country. I'm not gonna stick around here. It's my weekend, man. I'm gonna get out of here unless you got something for me.
[02:03:12] Unknown:
Roger, one more thing. This is David. It's 2PM, Monday, central. 2PM, Monday. Is that a good time, central? For us to talk?
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm I'm sure that'll work. You know,
[02:03:27] Unknown:
hopefully, my She kept it she kept it open ended for Monday, and, I know you had the show in the morning, so I thought
[02:03:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Let's just let her know. Okay. Tell her that that's agreeable with me. Okay? That's agreeable with me. And if I since we've not connected yet, if something comes up, I'll contact you and let you know. But, otherwise, Monday afternoon, our two hours after we get finished should be alright.
[02:03:57] Unknown:
Okay. And I'll share your WhatsApp your WhatsApp phone number with her. Yes. Well, that's my Ecuadorian phone number. Yes. Okay. Make sure that you're clear on time zones.
[02:04:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Tell her I'm central. Tell her I'm central.
[02:04:11] Unknown:
Yep. I'm gonna say 2PM central. So, hope everybody will Alright. Well, tell, tell,
[02:04:18] Unknown:
I think it's I think she's married. Tell Han that I look forward to speaking with her. K?
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Will do. Thanks. Alright. And,
[02:04:29] Unknown:
if if they're gonna connect on WhatsApp, if you need anything from me at all, pass my email address onto her too.
[02:04:39] Unknown:
Okay. I will do. I will do that. WhatsApp.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
It shouldn't be any problem. It's pretty easy. So, Yep. Yep. And see, on WhatsApp, I can put it on the computer. Can you put it on your desktop, and I can enlarge it
[02:04:54] Unknown:
enough to read. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, I explained that to her, Roger. So she's she understands, so it's no big deal. You know? Okay. Well, I Yep. Yep.
[02:05:04] Unknown:
Nothing I can do anything about.
[02:05:07] Unknown:
Yeah. You're right. Yep.
[02:05:09] Unknown:
So for the most part, maybe some miracle come along. Who knows? I don't I'm not out searching for No. Anyway, anybody else at this point?
[02:05:20] Unknown:
Just, an FYI for anybody that, wants to see the great Bible hoax of 1881. It will be up in the videos folder on docs.exposethematrix.com in about eighteen minutes.
[02:05:38] Unknown:
Alright. So there you go. Anyway, I will see you guys, hopefully, Monday morning at ten, and we'll see where next week goes. If next week's as exciting as this week, hell, strap yourself in. Yeah. Okay?
[02:05:56] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Have a good day. Thank you. You. You, Bory.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
We'll, the in Las Vegas, they're they're they're Los Angeles. Yep. Okay. Happy birthday. Okay. Bye. Bye, Shane. See you, kids. Tell Austin, Julie, we're sorry we didn't get to yak with him today, but, obviously, something came up. We'll look for him in the future. If not, we wish him good luck. Yes, sir? I don't know what that means. It's happy something.
[02:06:34] Unknown:
Happy weekend
[02:06:37] Unknown:
abbreviate. Oh. Oh. Okay. Hi. That's that's big Spanish. It's a It's a Yes. He was trying to say something. But that was big Spanish.
[02:06:54] Unknown:
I just said happy birthday, Roger. Thank you. Happy birthday, Roger.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Thank you, everybody.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
I'll see you on Monday. Everybody. I'll be a year older. Yeah. I'll
[02:07:06] Unknown:
be a year older on Monday. I hope I don't look it. Okay. Happy birthday. We'll see you. Thank you very much. You all have a great weekend. I'll see you Monday in the same time slot. Ciao. Ciao.
[02:07:18] Unknown:
Ciao. You know, I thought that was completely self explanatory. Feliz. I I thought that was perfectly understandable. Made sense to me.
[02:07:33] Unknown:
You're still not quite a boy. You made me confused.
[02:07:41] Unknown:
Well, that's because you don't pick you don't speak pig Espanol.
[02:07:46] Unknown:
You know, like, pig Latin. Oh. You know? Okay. Yeah.
[02:07:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Look at that.
[02:07:51] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's pig Espanol. Alright. Alright. Alright. I'll behave even though I don't want to. What? Oh, well. Yeah. We had a couple of, How you doing there, Paul? I'm doing pretty good. We had a couple of anonymous callers into the show, and I didn't know if it was anybody that, was just Perez? Dialed in for the first time. So, I believe one of them was, the feral material. And, the the other one, when I asked for a name, they hung up. So oh, well.
[02:08:39] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Yeah.
[02:08:44] Unknown:
What I I've I've always been told this, you know, as a child, and I also told my daughter.
[02:08:51] Unknown:
But but what does it mean to behave?
[02:08:54] Unknown:
What is that at what how what is that? What is a have, which is have? What what does that actually mean? Was what my daughter asked me. What does that mean, mom? What how do I do that? What does that word what does it mean? She always used to do that crap to me. She was fun to parent.
[02:09:22] Unknown:
It means straighten up. Mean?
[02:09:25] Unknown:
We were told you don't do it, and your ass get to what?
[02:09:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:09:33] Unknown:
See, behaving is what you do. Behaving is what you do to avoid discomfort like a red butt after a spanking. So if you behave, that will avoid that.
[02:09:49] Unknown:
Well, I told her it means to act right. Act right. That's what it means. Translation, act right.
[02:09:57] Unknown:
Okay. Or at least act left.
[02:10:00] Unknown:
In my time was not spanking, but it was a boot, a stick, whatever it was there. You're gonna
[02:10:08] Unknown:
get Boy, go out yonder in the yard and cut me a switch. And it better be a good one because you come back with hurt. It better be a good one because if it breaks, you gonna go out and get another one and get twice as many licks. If it breaks, the licks will start all over again. What?
[02:10:34] Unknown:
This is Robbie. I came in late. Could you tell me what the great bible hoax is? What was that about?
[02:10:41] Unknown:
The great bible hoax is a video. It's on YouTube. It's a great bible hoax of 1881, and, it, it talks about the, the actual history and the, the Bible through all of its various translations and what the basis are for them.
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You know? Thank you. What is your, what is your go ahead.
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My my take on it is I know nothing. I'm like Sergeant Schultz on Hogan Siro's. I have not watched the video. I just found it. I'm uploading it to, docs.exposethematrix.com in the two hours. Folder. Yeah. It's two hours forty nine minutes something like that.
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Who's it by? Do you know?
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I pair like, parable,
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parable channel or whatever. And this the narrator is Christian Pinto. He put it together. Oh, Chris Pinto. Oh, yeah. He's a he's a Catholic, isn't he?
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No. Not even close.
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What what what is he? I I I remember, he is he Zionist? I can't remember. There was something about him.
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Absolutely not. You're dead wrong on both assumptions. So you got the wrong Christopher Cinto. Chris Cinto.
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Did he do something on the boundary?
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Sorry. Yes. He did something on the boundary as well. Per is channel this parable that he's using? Mhmm.
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I was wondering, do you have a take, maybe Samuel Samuel on the, Masoretic text versus the Septuagint?
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Well, after the first century, they made a lot of changes. The Jews did. So Right. This whole thing is about this video that the great bible hoax is about two forged, codexes that they used to give us all our new bible translations. That's what it's about. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.
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Oh, right. You guys were talking about that. And what, do you support either one of those, Atticus versus Sinaiticus?
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Well, they're both forgeries in my opinion.
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Yeah. I know. That's where I'm at, Samuel. That's where I'm at. Because the Masoretic text was written much, much later. And the Septuagint was by the by the scribes, and they weren't trustworthy either, were they?
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Well, the way I'll look at it without making it too complicated is the the new Christians, by the time you get to Augustine, don't wanna have anything to do with the Jews, which was a bit of a mistake. When, Jerome did the first translation into Latin from the Greek and Hebrew texts, he thought both were valuable. And I think Jerome was correct. But then when the Catholic church became a military organization and was taken over by the empire, you end up getting all kinds of things that come in with that. And guys like Augustine threw the Mesoretic text completely under the bus, which was probably a mistake too.
So you you gotta really look at what is in that old testament and what's in that new testament and what jive with each
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other and our constituents. Trust? What version do you trust?
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Older King James version. Oh. The received text, which is direct translation from the Greek in most cases.
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Is that the 1611?
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Yeah. And even the Geneva is good. That's fifty years prior. That's still Uh-huh. You know, based on a lot of good translations. The problem with the Synaticus the the problem if you watch the the the thing on Synaticus is when that was supposedly found under very, very strange conditions by, a guy who was dealing with the Catholic church that was supposedly a Protestant called Von Tischendorf. This guy was opposed by a Greek scholar of the time by the name of Simonides that said he wrote it in the eighteen hundreds, in the early eighteen hundreds, 1840. And he says, you that was never meant to be anything but a gift to the czar of Russia from me.
It was never meant to be a text that was valid. And then, of course and then Vaticanus came from the Vatican, and you could really trust a Vatican. Right. So that's what our bible translations are based on today, like the NIV, etcetera.
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So how how far at what date do you think the King James, up until what point do you think the King James is okay? All the way up to the new King James or or where do you draw the line on the King James?
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I think if you stay prior to 1972, that's when they really started publishing these these newer texts and translations.
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Uh-huh.
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Now I'm not sure whether they I'm sure there's King James versions that stay true to it after that. I just if I wanted to play it on the safe side, I'd say prior to the seventies.
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And I also heard that in the original King James that the name, I guess it's y h w h, was used, and it's something about being in the concordance 7,000 times. Do you know anything about that? Well, that's the Tetragrammaton.
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That's the name of the Lord without
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the the vowels. Yeah. I I know that, but I'm saying have you heard that that was in the earlier the original, excuse me, King James?
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Or at least in the second quarter? I'm not sure. I think I think what they did is a lot of those translations did use Lord, which is probably not as accurate as I would prefer it to be, but at least I know that. I mean, the same thing that you do to them. It's not it's not perfect, but we know where the problems are.
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I think they were using I think they were using I e s o u s in the King James earlier.
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That could well be
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I mean the problem with, you know, the Lord and the God and all those things, those are pagan words. And then of course, they didn't have the j until five hundred years ago. So even the name, you know, has been botched because how many people on earth have been called Jesus? I mean, it's the name above all names. It's not Jesus. You know? That was a Jesuit thing that was brought in. Well, he came in his father's name.
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That should be a huge hit. Amen. Father's name is the father's name is Yahushua. So his name would be, Yahushua.
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Yeah. I I'm One of
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the reasons, I think, for a lot of the confusion on on the names for Jesus and stuff like that is because one of the biggest schisms in the church was the divinity of Jesus. Whether he was divine, whether he was human, whether he was both, this created a lot of the problems in the early church and the Gnostics took advantage of that and wrote a lot of scripture that was based on what their feelings were about it and how you used the name. But if you use Jesus Christ, I think you're in good hands because you're basically doing something that's saying this is a unique Jesus, the anointed one, the savior, versus in some of these new translations now, that's one of the dastardly things that they do, is where it used to be Jesus Christ, they put Jesus. So now he's just a man.
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He's not Well, what about the letter j and the whole Jesuits bringing that in?
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Well, I don't that's more of an English thing than it is, I think, Jesuits. The Jesuits did plenty.
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But Well, what do you think about you do you think Jesus was in a scene?
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Well, the scenes were were extremely conservative, you might say. They thought the Sadducees and Sadducees Sadducees and the Pharisees were way too liberal. So to some extent, Jesus might have said that they're at least not contaminated in one place, but he was bringing in a whole new thinking that they probably wouldn't have accepted either because of their conservativeness. I don't believe Jesus was in the scene to answer your question.
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What about Nazarene?
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Well, he's from Nazareth. Right?
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What about you, Brent?
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The one second
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Go ahead. Didn't didn't didn't Glenn Campbell think he was in the scene since he hung with him?
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Who?
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Glenn Kimball. He was a Glenn Kimball. He was a researcher back in up until the early two thousands. He died back then. But he wrote, the childhood of Jesus, and there was another book or two that he did. And he was on Art Bell a lot.
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Glenn Campbell? Glenn Campbell? Oh, I've never heard of him.
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Yeah. I've got his book on that, Brent. And I thought you said Campbell, and I missed it too. Me too.
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I love Glenn Campbell. Oh, wow.
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Glenn Glenn Campbell was a drunk. Again. And I know some and I and I knew somebody that knew him very well.
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One of the dangerous sects were really the Nabataeans because they were sort of had one toe in Christianity and they're basically were the beginning of, Muslim religion.
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So Nabateans or Nicolaitians?
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Nabateans.
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Okay. I haven't heard of that. Well, thank you, folks.
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But if you if you watch that piece on the, the great bible hoax of 1881, I'd be interested in getting feedback on how you think what you think about it and whether their their view is is real or not.
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Is that a new one by Chris Pinto?
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No. That thing's at least four years old, and Paul found the old name of it. Today, they're calling it different names. And one that I sent to Roger, they wouldn't allow to go through in Ecuador.
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Wow.
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And I'm pretty sure Ecuador is pretty much under Jewish control.
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Well, I just remember I I watched Jesse with years ago. And, there was something about one of his his documentaries that that rubbed me the wrong way. And I it's just been too long. I can't remember.
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There was something about his perspective
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that rubbed me the wrong way. I just can't remember now. Does he does he yeah. Glenn Kimball
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was involved with the Colburn Bible.
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Oh, now that's big. Yeah. What are your thoughts on the Colbron? Samuel, do you have any,
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thoughts on that? No opinion on it at all.
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Yeah. I've been wanting to get one of those. James McCaney, really highly promotes that. But anyway well, I missed the show. Is it worth worth listening to the archives, guys? What was the main topic if there was one?
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David was good at the beginning with, the you know, he's with the national status info, and he was connecting Roger with what's her name, y'all? What's her name?
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And Vandersteel. Yep. Yep.
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He was connecting Roger with her? What do you mean?
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They're gonna have a interview.
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Yeah. Really? Yeah. Rob okay. Robbie? Yeah.
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So, it's me, Julie. So Hi. When when, Roger was on Kevin Hoyt's show, another listener posted a comment. I think it's Dave posted a comment in the comment section and Vandersteel read it and asked him to call her and left her number. So she is a national under, I believe, Bobby Lawrence. And I believe Anna Vaughn Wright just got hit with a $1,200,000 IRS bill. And so, what was I going to say? Anne Vandersteel is has studied under those three people who aren't doing this national status stuff correctly at all. And so make a long story short, Roger will be on Anne Vandersteel's show this coming Monday at Oh, that's exciting.
Yeah, 2PM central time. And, you know, so, you know, Anne Vandersteel follows Kevin Hoyt. Hoyt, I think, if I'm not mistaken, Kevin has actually been on Ann Vandersteel's show several times,
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about different topics and subjects. So anyway Okay. Two questions. How was the interview with Kevin Hoyt with Roger? Is that worth listening to?
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Yeah. It's it's ex it's excellent. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's it's it's yeah. It's excellent. So go on, I can send you the link today. And so that's it. The rest of the show was me arguing with Roger about financial stuff, but, you know, I had I had to defend myself. My name was called out. So and then other people arguing that people were butting in, and, my name was called, so I had to say something, you know?
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Well, what do we Julie, what do we think about Anne Vandersteel?
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Well, I think Anne Vandersteel is a great reporter.
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You know? She isn't she isn't she isn't she somewhat misguided? Isn't she somewhat misguided?
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You know what? I've got no clue, but here's the deal. I think the more we can get Roger's show out on as much as possible, you know, the more, people can break free of the slavery they're in. So even, you know, you know how they That could be great. That could be great. So, Robbie, you know what they even see? They say bad publicity could be good publicity. Right, Brent?
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Yep. I know about a year and a half ago, Vandersteel was supposed to we would get on with Roger. And, all of a sudden, that fell through because she found, that Bobby Lawrence.
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Yeah. You know? And And Bobby Lawrence and then Bonnie. I think Bonnie is either David's wife or Yes. Bonnie's wife.
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And Yes. Is his wife still locked up? Is is she still locked up?
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My understanding is yes. My understanding is David passed away and his wife I can't remember her name. Bonnie, was that what her name is? Or Yeah. Bonnie. Yeah. My understanding is yes, but I I haven't verified it, for a while. Wow. But but he, Anne Vandersteel, I believe studied under, not David but, Bobby. But I know David and Bobby were super close friends. So,
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anyway. I don't know I don't know Bobby did you say Bobby Lawrence?
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Yeah. I took all of their classes, Robbie, before I found Roger, and I did nothing. Wow. It's just so confusing. I I I had no clue how to find Roger. And like I said, I have all of their materials, a a filing cabinet full of them.
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So Bobby Lawrence is his his work is, the same as David Strait?
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Pretty much. All those all that it's so complicated and convoluted and un unnecessary. The And they go they go way back into teaching stuff biblical and stuff about the Northwest Territories and all that stuff that, you know, it's helpful to have knowledge about that stuff. But at the end of the day, Roger teaches a much more streamlined course. Learn the fourteenth amendment. Get out of the fourteenth amendment. You're a national. Yeah. And then, you know but they take forever to teach this stuff. They I remember that, I had an opportunity to travel to Texas to go through a three day, you know, twelve hour seminar, each day, in Texas that I can go to.
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Good to you. I have a spidey sense, and I'm gonna make a prediction that nothing's gonna happen to Anna.
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Well
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I'll say this. Roger was easy to find. He found me.
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I don't know. You know, if you didn't rebut the presumption, the fourteenth amendment presumption, and I don't know what their paperwork entailed, but I do know that it was multiple, multiple pages of stuff to and I don't, you know, I don't remember exactly what the wording was on everything. I don't think I threw the stuff away. I think it's just sitting in a filing cabinet collecting dust in my in another room, but
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I don't know if they did that right. My only thing about Anne Vandersteel is her last name, Steele. I don't want her to get Roger on there and then steal Roger's information and go because she's more of the mainstream of the alternative movement. And so I just don't want her to, not give Roger the credit or so. I I just don't I I don't know about her. I've I've had questions about her.
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Yep. They know my stuff to do Roger stuff.
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Rob Robbie,
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there's tons of people out there right now who've already stolen all the stuff off the Matrix docs. I can tell you that for sure. That's true. Selling it, and they've created their own shows. So Yeah. In fact, I was I was a victim of that on and how I how I found Roger, I was the victim of that. So, I don't think it really I I I don't think Anne would do something like that to Roger. She's had Brent Johnson on multiple times, on her show, and she always promotes the people's websites and always promotes the phone numbers that are given out.
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And Well, he's a creep. Brent Johnson is a creep. He has to say Malcolm Baldwin.
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He's still out there, promoting all of he got a new radio show, and he's still out there promoting everything. And I get on his show on Tuesday evenings on his call, after it's over and relisten to it just because, you know, I I wanna be in the know. He Brent Johnson is actually extremely brilliant when it comes to knowledge about the, about the constitution. And I learned something from him, all the time. So but I don't agree with how he does this national stuff at all either. So he's in the same boat as Ann Vandersteel, Bobby Lawrence, and David Strait for me.
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Mhmm. And learn to stay away from him.
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Well I agree. Johnson Brent Johnson tells you to get rid of your Social Security number, and Brent Johnson, I don't agree with the way he does common law trusts. And he's been proven wrong by Mark multiple times, with Mark showing case law. So, but he's still very smart. He's extremely smart in certain areas. And so I I choose to listen to him. And while I'm listening to him, I multitask so that I'm not, you know, for lack of a better word, wasting all that time doing nothing. I don't know what other phrase to use, but, I mean, I'm telling you guys, Brent Johnson's but this is he's extremely smart. And I'll tell you something. There's another listener who calls in. In fact, you guys should listen to this last Tuesday evening's call. There's a guy by the name of John.
Nobody knows, who the thirteenth amendment citizens were more than, John and he challenges even, the case law Dred versus Scott. The definitions in there. He's and he's a listener who calls in all the time and talks about the Vikings and the indigenous people and all of that stuff. I find him fascinating. However, he's very condescending. He calls all of us, ignorant. And there's another adjective that's not nice. He calls us all ignorant somebody's and, I'm like, well, I'm probably one of them based on his definition and how he interprets this, but I don't appreciate the name calling. But it's fascinating to listen to the callers is all I'll say.
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Mhmm. Well, there's a lot of egos in this.
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Yep. And I think that, I think, like I said, any any exposure is good exposure. Like like Roger said, he had a horrible interview with Sarah Westall, and I know her. And, and yet he had the most people call in after his show on there wanting information from him. So Oh, I didn't think it was that bad. We shall see what happens, on Monday, but I think that That is exciting. I think he'll get a lot of traction now. And and and Steel Steel has been on the Alex Jones show. So maybe, like, you know, I told Roger, Kevin is very well connected. So he might not he only has, like, he's got two, I think, rumble channels. One with, like, a thousand something, another one, I think, with 10,000.
But he's connected with people. So with his mouth and everything and his he's on shows all the time. I think maybe, you know, we can we can spread all this information viral viral with a domino effect. One contact will lead to multiple contacts and vice versa.
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Well, thank you.
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I'll call you later on today, Ravi.
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Thank you.
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I have a question. You didn't you didn't follow-up your call from yesterday with me.
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I'm so sorry, Brent. I'm I'm gonna call you today too. I I I wasn't I wasn't but I wasn't but
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but hurt. Also, I'm getting ready for work. So
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Okay. Well, I'll text you later, Brent. You know I love you, Brent. Yeah.
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I will call
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him. Julie, if you wouldn't mind, send me that link on Roger's, testimony as well.
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On his, on what do you mean? The link on, on on the show with, Kevin Hoyt? Hoyt. Yeah. Mhmm. Oh oh, yeah. I'll send that to you. Sure. Well, I'm I'm in I'm driving right now. When I get back today, I'll send that to you, Samuel.
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Thank you.
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I just actually clicked it open, Samuel. So and Julie. So I'll send it over to him Okay. If you don't mind, I mean. No. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Have you had a chance to take a look at that, piece on the bible yet?
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I think I have not.
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I think I sent you two versions, and it's not the eighteen eighty one title. So I'm gonna have to watch the eighteen eighty one now again and see how they differ in content, but they're all about the same length. Content is about the same. It's in different order. I think they did that because it was being censored. It's like when I when Roger said he couldn't get it in Ecuador when I sent it to him, I was like, maybe that's why it's so hard to find it in that old title of the great bible hoax of 1881, you know? So but it sounds like somebody captured it, and that's what, Paul found and posted.
But there's two different other titles that I know about. Content looks the same, though. So it's just Sami Paul? In a different order.
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And, Sammy, did you get the operation of law definition in Black's fourth for me yesterday?
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Yes. I did.
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Yes. I have a question.
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I have a question.
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The one you sent to me starts out the bridge to Babylon, but then it has the eighteen eleven and the title also.
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Yes. And that's got a little bit different, format. Should I say continuity than the other ones do? But it's all pretty much the same content. Just they get at it in a different sequence, the way it looks to me. Arguably true. And why they would do that? That's a lot of work. And why they would do they re edited it the way it looks. It's as far as I can tell now, three they have three different versions and three different titles.
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How about giving Shane the floor?
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Yeah. Go ahead.
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That's me? That's you. Alright. How do you think we can put this book in every everyone's hands? Clark and Soumaya's at school, classroom, book teaching. How do you think we we can do that?
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Just do it. Which which book is that, Shane?
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That's the, selling the sheriff. Oh.
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Tell them to surf. With her right now for a friend. Alright.
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Alrighty. That's what I'm trying to go for
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is the.
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And also the, web web,
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provider.
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Make it available on the Internet. Oh, yeah.
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I'm done.
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It's, all the Bible talk this morning. I think, one of the things we just can be really clear on what the law is and used to our advantage, is the way I opened, and I got this from Lex Mercatoria. Notice and demand challenging jurisdiction. Come now and let us reason together, spay the Lord. Isaiah one eighteen King James version. Then he references public law 97 to two eighty ninety six stat twelve eleven, quote the Bible. And there's some dots. The holy scriptures dots is the rock quote on which our republic rests. And then, end quote, and then articles of Confederation article two.
I think, you know, the Bible as a law book, where where we come down the whole theological deal and, you know, sola scriptura and all that, we come down to how in the law, like, for this group, how in the law we can agree. And that's how I opened, I followed his lead and opened that way. And, of course, we can also sign with witnesses and have witnesses sign two or three witnesses and reference that scripture as well in any of our documents. So I thought that was a good a good pull. And, I just wanna give an update so far. Day, Yeah. Day four of no notifications from Verizon.
Now after I sent in, the I sent in a further, basically notice and acceptance. So I notice and, acceptance and just, asking the question, you know, does the state register people, in conjunction with their with their sending a bill an invoice to me. And so and that and that invoice is not even in. It's in a former corporate, an old s corp that I had, but I know my Social Security number is attached to it. So this time, I reference my Social Security number as well as the birth certificate number. And, they had a note when I talked to Verizon. They did have a note, that the CEO had gotten the service of process, back in June. So just an update. They'll nothing conclusive yet, but I'll I'll keep you posted. Are you
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Did you tell him mute sofrock?
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Yeah. Whoever has the use of is use of.
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The whole whole thing of that bible, video that I'm recommending is the attempt of the Catholic church ultimately to show that the Bible is in error because when they started out they didn't let the common people read the Bible and when they found out that it disagreed with their theology, they would, kill you for having a bible, reading a bible, owning a bible. And when they couldn't do that anymore, you know, they had wars and stuff to crush it. And now their new tactic is just to throw so much suspicion on whether the translations are accurate or not, so that people have no foundation in their faith that it is accurate and has been kept true as God said he would keep it throughout time until the end of time.
But, you shouldn't be fooled in my opinion by what they have done with Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, I think they're both forgeries and that's what all the new translations are based on. Brent touched on a little bit, the end of Mark in these new translations is missing completely. That's just one thing of thousands. There's something like 3,000 errors or differences in just the four gospels between Vaticanus and Sinaiticus alone. Just the gospels. 3,000 differences. That's what they're using to translate the Bible. If you don't watch a piece like that, you'd never know.
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Well, some things are counterfeit or or ordinary, then it's pretty much a true cut or a copy of it. You know? It it's not erroneous, usually.
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Well, the original Greek texts don't have that problem. Those translations are are what they used in the King James version and the Geneva Bible, and they're still understood real well. That's why a lot of people are King James only today, and that's, I think, the proper point to take and really don't know why Brent doesn't have a problem with I don't understand. I guess maybe he just thinks it's easier to read in an NIV English version. That's the only thing I could see justifying it. But if you're reading the wrong thing, what good is the translation?
Whether you can understand the English part of it or not, you're being deceived in my opinion.
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When you deliberately mispronounce words all throughout a bunch of things in different languages and stuff, that's probably the problem right there.
[02:45:35] Unknown:
You know, when it says That's what catchy debut. That's the great thing about Greek is it's such a well understood language. That's why this Simonides character, he was at the time he was Greek, born Greek, had over 5,000 old scrolls in his collection, and he said he wrote Sinaiticus in 1840. And this was an argument in the London papers back and forth for four years. This wasn't just some little claim, but nobody would support him. Well a few people did if you watch that piece, But everybody who was going to push this new thing forward threw him under the bus, called him a forger and all these other things.
He certainly could have forged. He was that good. He was considered the best Greek scholar of his time. And it's written in Greek. Anyway, you gotta watch it to get a feeling for what it's all about. It's three hours long for a reason. There's that much content easily, and if you watch the other versions of it, there's even, you know, stuff that they edited in and out. Is obviously could have been a lot longer than that. Anyway, just stuff we should know, I think, you know. I mean, I'm happy I found I rolled into it because, otherwise, I wouldn't certainly know any difference. I mean, the the hardest thing for me to watch that is the people we trust in this country and in Europe to give us accurate translations didn't care whether they let were liars or not, Didn't care if they told the truth.
Didn't care whether that translation was accurate or not. They just didn't care. I don't know if it because they were making money or fame or whatever it was, but they're just despicable people.
[02:47:57] Unknown:
They're just full of bullshit.
[02:48:03] Unknown:
And and this is what's really scary about the whole thing is all these so called experts that back it either don't know or they do know and either one for to be a so called expert is inexcusable.
[02:48:31] Unknown:
Me and Gregory talked about experts last night. I think you know where we went.
[02:48:39] Unknown:
A leak under pressure?
[02:48:41] Unknown:
Yeah. An unknown drip under pressure.
[02:48:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:48:54] Unknown:
Yeah. A drip of what? That's the question.
[02:49:16] Unknown:
This was a very good day.
[02:49:22] Unknown:
It is certainly a beautiful day out here in rough and ready. Blue skies, no no contrails or chemtrails or I didn't even see a jet today. Beautiful.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
Brent, to your, to your Yousefruck question. I don't know if you're still there. Yeah. I am. One of the one of the whereas clauses I have in the first, first notice to them, which I sent about, ten days ago. Unless the county first acquires the requisite jurisdiction over this land, then you speak referring to the assessor or the appraiser or the county in turn have no jurisdiction to confer upon a court. Illustration purposes, at least one US territorial court concurs, and then it's a quote, the parties cannot even by stipulation confer jurisdiction upon a court where no jurisdiction exists. And then the therefore clauses, any forced order to collect taxes for me resulting in alleged attempt to seize this land by an alleged delinquent tax sale or other auction action is under threat to us, coercion, and is therefore repugnant to the unanimous declaration of 13 United States Of America, 07/04/1776 as the first organic law of The United States Of America.
If, therefore, the execution of such an order, judicial nature or otherwise, and this kind of refers to, like, nonjudicial states when they talk about mortgage, But here, I'm talking to the assessor. Constitutes an act of violence with no lawful juror justification. There's another territory of US Supreme Court quote. And then there's a therefore, clause as well. And what's what's interesting is the way this goes, the last statement for the proving the non jurisdiction basically state your failure or refusal present me with a hearing above demanded evidence. Also demonstrates, using false or misleading repossession of fact, the county willfully intended to ex exact unjust enrichment with past communications. That's any letter or bill or anything.
Two, Dick does and willfully continues to engage in a systematic ongoing course of conduct to exact property. Affirming, three, the county did, does, and continue to do the furtherance of the scheme, which is likely to cause confusion and thus deceive as to affiliation, connection, or association with the county as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of the county services or commercial activities. Therefore, the county did and continues to engage in scheme to defraud and therefore experience benefit of the bargain. And you did voluntary both communicate on behalf of the county and require use of retro easement, there's a magic word, for the county in this land cannot be able to use allegedly held in which account being the person's property.
So then that has a footnote, and this says over 50 footnotes for long for teaching, you know, the the public survey of d one. Quote one who has the right and informative use of fact. See you in for note 37. The duty the duties of the use of fact are one, to make an inventory of the things subject to use of fact in the presence of those having interest in them. Two, to give security for their restitution when the use of rock shall be an end. Three, to take good care of the being subject to use of rock. Four, to pay all taxes and claims which arise while the thing ends possession as a ground rent.
Five, to keep the thing in repair at his own expense. And then it quotes, some of the civil law in a state for life, use of refractory, and referring to Bouvier's, 1856. So it's a it's a powerful concept, and the idea here is to put them, with this, notice finishes with the covenant not to sue. So you're giving them consideration that you're not gonna unless they physically harm you, or the property, you're not gonna report them to the bar or, you know, some of the other things in the covenant not to sue is you're not gonna distress bonds. You're not gonna initiate suit.
And then you're stating as part of the, you're given the use of fructively care, which then they would they would be responsible. They're gonna get all the profit from this land because it's still gonna be on the tax roll, but they're gonna be paying taxes. So they're gonna be able to monetize that in whatever world they're working, you know, half a million dollar house, a million dollar house, whatever it is. You're gonna get that benefit of whatever they're passing on, you know, to their other things to get funding and all that for the state or the county or whatever. But they're also gonna be responsible for all the liabilities. So if there's a repair, if there's, you know, somebody files a claim on the property, stuff like that. So that's the idea of the of where the use of front is, that where that word is so important. Thank you.
Julie, if you're still on, I did find out something about them. Because I'm gonna be service serving the mortgage service the servicing company which we get the bill from. But then in the traveler's homeowners policy, it actually says the mortgagee name and address. So the promissory note, I think, is is, is tied to, the promissory note is tied to Rocket, but then the mortgagee name and address is Nationstar Mortgage LLC. So I don't know Springfield, Ohio. So I don't know if that's just, have to do the research if that's just the nomenclature for Rocket Mortgage, but pretty interesting. I don't know if anybody has mortgages or done any in-depth into that, but
[02:55:41] Unknown:
we'll
[02:56:12] Unknown:
Hey, George. Hope you're still there. Could you, define user truck again? I'm kinda slow on the up here.
[02:56:24] Unknown:
Sure. The and the site is from kinda back into ancient Roman law. So but it carries through. Look at that footnote again. There's there's five responsibilities basically of whoever is their user for actuary. But the use use of is the use of the fruits and also the disposal of disposal rights, would then go to what's called the naked owner. So, you see which and I should be able to do this off the top of my head. I'm learning too. So one thing, you know, it's one thing to send paperwork in, but it's another thing when you're in a situation to be able to defend it verbally. They call that the tribune. Right? Knowing the grammar, then knowing the logic, and then knowing the rhetoric of how to defend it.
But the in in the context of, the covenant not to sue and and assigning the use of fraud. Let's see where the first mention of it is, see if I can give it a more succinct description. Seven. So it's 42. Okay. The right of enjoying a thing, the property of which is vested in another, and to draw from the same all the profit, utility, and advantage which it may produce, provided it be without altering the substance of a thing. That's the first definition of use of fraud. Second is the obligation of not altering the substance of a thing, however, takes place only in the case of a complete use of fraud. So there's a you can be completely use of fraud. Then there's a third perfect usufruct.
And it's interesting. Louisiana law is the only one that uses usufruct, I guess, as a state because that's under the, probably under the Roman law still. We don't French Roman law. Perfect usufruct, which is of things which the usufructory can enjoy without altering their substance, Though their substance may be diminished or deteriorate naturally by time or by the use to which they are applied as a house, a piece of land, animals, furniture, and other movable effects. And that is a civil code of of, Lou I think it's King Louis article five twenty five.
Some of this is from one Brown civil law, Portra Du Douai, Isle Pan, so that it looks very ancient sites, but then comes through all the way to, Bouvier's institutes. And then use of fraud, civil law, Bouvier's, which is that definition which I said before, which is one who has the right enjoyment of a use of fraud. The duties of the use of fraud tree are, to make an inventory of things subject to the use of fraud in the presence of those having interest in them, due to give security for their restitution when the use of fraud shall be in hand for you to take good care of the things subject to the use of fraud. Four, to pay all taxes and claims which arise while the thing is in its possession as a ground rent. Five, to keep the thing repaired at its own expense.
And, that's actually user fluctuating. That's the the duties of them. But you can still pass, you can still pass the property on to to heirs. You could, you could you you know, if you wanted to use it as an Airbnb, you could still, you know, use it to to rent out. You can pass it on to others. Now the thing of it is when you go to sell it so what you're doing is you're saying you it's almost like a library book. You're saying the live the house is like a library book. I'm gonna rent it for a while. I'm gonna take it out, but then I'm gonna return it. So what I haven't found out is, like, how do I do convert this into con let's say I say I'm done using this house. I notify the county.
I wanna go use another house. You gotta just take care of the buying and selling. I'm not in commerce. I'm not part of your commercial world. It's like caveman do you remember caveman lawyer from selling live? Your world with its fax machines troubles me. It, it consumes me. So we don't wanna be consumed as consumers. So we say, you count it. You take care of all the listed, whatever you're gonna do. And I'm interested in this. And also here, they take care of all the financial thing in the background. You're basically just using another library book. Now you're gonna that house.
So that's kind of that's kind of the idea of what's what's behind the whole thing. So we're not into, like, making making Main Street into Wall Street like we have been, which is killing this country. I think it's a poi for a national to live personally, but how to operate like this, I do not know yet. I'm still still just testing the waters and really learning.
[03:01:34] Unknown:
Very interesting. What what I caught from it, your your voice is, very low, and and I didn't pretty much catch the last part. But from what I gleaned speak up. Yeah. It's primarily just the use or proper use of a product, a physical product. I'm Yes. Saying Mhmm.
[03:02:04] Unknown:
Mhmm. Like a library it's like a library book. You take that library book out. It's not yours. You don't own it, but you can use it. And then you bring it back. You know, you you you return it. So that was a real simple simple obviously, there is use you know, there's wear and tear and things that happen.
[03:02:25] Unknown:
Wouldn't you say that it really it it defines, the benefits and if any liabilities? George, I'm gonna send you Black's Law, excuse me, fourth edition about operation of law, and, I think it's pretty enlightening that that may be the law that's in operation. So, anyway, I found it interesting. Yeah. I just looked it up yesterday. Trying to get my email to work, and I'll forward that.
[03:03:05] Unknown:
Did you send that to me too?
[03:03:08] Unknown:
Oh, I just texted it to Samuel because he was the one that brought it up. But I'll put it in an email, to the regulars.
[03:03:16] Unknown:
So Or you or you can text it to me, whatever you like.
[03:03:21] Unknown:
Oh, okay. The last sentence is very enlightening. Mhmm. Right. Hold on.
[03:03:31] Unknown:
Well, enlighten us, please, if you don't mind.
[03:03:36] Unknown:
I'm in suspense.
[03:03:38] Unknown:
Okay. Well, hold on. I've gotta pull it up in the text because I screenshotted it. Well, maybe I still have it here on my computer.
[03:03:47] Unknown:
I'm a wigwam. I'm a teepee. Okay. Got you. You're two tenths.
[03:03:54] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on. My computer's slow. Operation of law, Black's Fourth. This term expresses the manner in which rights and sometimes liabilities devolve upon a person by the mere application to the particular transaction of the established rules of law without the act or cooperation of the party himself.
[03:04:31] Unknown:
There you go. Because they're doing that all the time, like, based on the status. Right? But presumption and everything. So that's well said.
[03:04:48] Unknown:
I was made aware, the other night that Black Spitz has a a preface, and it states due to changes in language, vocabulary. I can't remember exactly how it stated, but it's, a warning. Everything after the fourth, I would say, I wouldn't use.
[03:05:12] Unknown:
Oh, well, Sherry, could you please read that again? I'm sorry.
[03:05:17] Unknown:
Hold on. Gotta get back to my computer.
[03:05:21] Unknown:
I think the Supreme Court is only using BDAs as far as the five o, like the American 1856.
[03:05:28] Unknown:
Right. I should I should look it up there too. This term, operation of law, expresses the manner in which rights and sometimes liabilities devolve upon a person by the mere application to the particular transaction of the established rules of law without the act or cooperation of the party himself. And so that was, when you were reading the definitions of usapruct, and sometimes liabilities. That wasn't so in every, definition, the three that you gave, the perfect, the first one, the second, and the third, which was the perfect. And I believe it was the first one you spoke of that there aren't necessarily liabilities as a part of that.
I yield.
[03:06:54] Unknown:
Well, if you, damage the library book, you would be liable to repair or replace it is what I'm gleaning from that.
[03:07:10] Unknown:
Correct. You you do the alpaca on your your car. Right? Your house? Anyway, it's just interesting. I don't know how it intertwines, but I think, Samuel, a few days ago at the beginning of the week, had brought up about operation of law. And I just looked into it yesterday, and, it could be a sand trap. I don't know. But I think being, looked at through the scope of the use of trucks, I think, is, importance being said someone brought up on the after call the other day about, the Catholics having a a vicar or some head over every county or state via the court system ideals.
And maybe that is why the courts use Bouvier's. I don't know. Well, always more questions than answers. I yield.
[03:08:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Like, what law are they referring to? There's so many man made laws, or are they referring to, the common law of nature? One is subjective, and the other one is objective.
[03:09:00] Unknown:
Correct. Well, you know, it's always the subjective one. That means it's man's. That way they can use it at their whim or not. I I yield.
[03:09:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And then it's like every every little judge has got his own interpretation of it. And like Humpty Dumpty, you know, the word means what I say it means. And that might change in the next breath. So, yeah, that's a quandary.
[03:09:55] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. Is Julie or and Robbie on here? Bill? Julie and Robbie? I was just gonna ask. Was it Julie or Robbie that said they learned something from that man about the constitution. I can't remember his Brent, somebody, not our BB Brent, but the other Brent that was Robbie or Julie said they learned something from him about the constitution. And I was one I'd like to know what if they can remember something they learned.
[03:10:49] Unknown:
Yeah, Joan. I see him. Can you hear me?
[03:10:53] Unknown:
Can you can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I'm driving, and so I don't have everything in front of me. But, Brent Johnson just knows a lot about all these amendments as well and, and the ones that weren't passed and went and he knows a lot about the public law and all the administrative things and stuff that, Roger talks about. And, but I I can't recall off the top of my head right now. I'm driving and distracted right now with traffic.
[03:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Julie.
[03:11:28] Unknown:
Welcome.
[03:11:34] Unknown:
Hey, BB Brent Bachman. Can you can you talk for a second?
[03:11:41] Unknown:
Alright. For a second.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
How did Roger find how did Roger find you? That was interesting.
[03:11:51] Unknown:
I went to a gun show over in South Atlanta, and he was at a table Yeah. That we engaged.
[03:12:04] Unknown:
Alright. And is that the first time you heard the message or the first time he heard the message or something like that
[03:12:17] Unknown:
or what? No. He he invited me to their meeting and then a couple of meetings into it that I went to, that's when he launched into that.
[03:12:29] Unknown:
Alright. Thanks, Brent.
[03:12:53] Unknown:
Just a little follow-up on that whole definition too, but I'm about why I think it's worthy of study. And I haven't seen many people talking about that word. Is, the fellow that was mentioning he was talking to an attorney about it, and I forget that level of a if he was a said guy or what, but or, you know, like, what what he was as a lawyer. But he said, he said, oh, yeah. He told me he's fucked. He said, oh, yeah. And the lawyer said, I was are you talking to a lot of people about that? He said, no. I just have a small, you know, small website. And, the guy said it's probably better that way.
So I was like, it's gotta be a lot of times they just kinda give you a little hint, like the movie National Treasure, where they talk about the declaration. And, anyway, I thought that was that was kind of an interesting testimony.
[03:14:08] Unknown:
Now I am no expert on Bouvier's or blacks, but it seems to me Bouvier's only deals with definitions of words where blacks has, phrases. I yield. But I must say that, the words that come up when you do operation of law in quotes, BBA's definition, the words that come up, Release. Let me see what was the other one. It was so important. Hopefully, I saved it. Where'd it go? The letter e effect. The operation of a law of an agreement or an act is called its effect. Anyway and then r, which was release, releaser, and, it goes into speaks about operation of law. I I'm anyway, it's really quite interesting.
And they use, the law presumes in consequence of some act of the releaser. For instance, when one of the several joint obligors is expressly released, the others are also. Found that interesting. I mean, the application of these things is, the most important part. But even finding out, what they mean by the term operation of law. And as, Daryl would say in Alabama, whose law and what law? So I yield.
[03:16:16] Unknown:
May I, Paul if Paul's there, did Paul post the interview with Kevin Hoyt with Roger anywhere, or is he going to? Is Paul there?
[03:16:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Is it on thematrix.com? Hello. Hello.
[03:16:50] Unknown:
I mean, I'd be surprised if Paul wasn't going to post that, somewhere. I don't know. I guess he's not around.
[03:16:59] Unknown:
Robbie, he said he was gonna post it after, Kevin, had posted it and had a day or or so for his listeners to take it in. That was my understanding of it that Paul had gave last week. And he go ahead.
[03:17:19] Unknown:
Alrighty then. Thank you. Hi, Sherry.
[03:17:25] Unknown:
Hi. And I would think Pod Home would have it, and it was supposed to be twenty four, forty eight hours after Kevin had posted it himself. So I'm not sure what link Julie is sending, if it's from Kevin's podcast, which would mean Paul may have already, made that available. But I don't know. I haven't looked. I yield I'm not familiar with Pod Home yet. So It's pretty straightforward. It's on the matrix docs, the link to it, and the most current things are up top. Okay. Thank you.
[03:18:09] Unknown:
And you can record, the stuff. You can download it to your hard drive.
[03:18:15] Unknown:
Yes. He did. He did post it.
[03:18:22] Unknown:
Yeah. This operation of a law thing, the reason I brought that up is because and what we still need is a a copy of these refusal letters that we get from either Mrs. Robinson or the Department of State refuting it. They they put the exemption in there as if it's by operation of law. We need I'd like to see that exact wording. Somebody could send me one of those. But and so that's your exemption from what they're stating, right? So but in Brode's declaration of independence, he's using as what you want to get out of because it's all these contracts that you'd never really agreed to that are operating by law because you don't even know about them.
So
[03:19:14] Unknown:
And is you subtract the operation of law that they're referring to, which puts, any argument or declaration you have moot is my comprehension of what, George has brought forward. And they make it sound like it's a benefit to you in that letter, like there's another law that's operating that they have no control over. Do you see what I'm saying?
[03:19:44] Unknown:
The old Bauvier's definition is more common law. It's basically it's obligation of law is its its practical working effect, you know?
[03:19:57] Unknown:
Well, I Like I couldn't find phrases. Test
[03:20:00] Unknown:
date. If you die in test date, it goes to your error. Well, we can sort of throw that out these days too. It's not automatic. It's so it it can be used it it's being used in the modern sense. It's very different than it was back in in Boviers.
[03:20:17] Unknown:
Well, Boviers, I didn't find any phrases. Just words.
[03:20:23] Unknown:
Well, operations. In there. No operational. It's got phrases in here.
[03:20:28] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I would just did a quick search. I think I have Bouvier's downloaded on my laptop. I just haven't went into there. So are you old?
[03:20:41] Unknown:
It's loaded with phrases. So where I think the trick is in in that that refusal letter isn't what we think it is, or we shouldn't assume that we know what it is. Roger's assuming that it's basic law that is ancient is the operation of law when the common, current term is just the opposite.
[03:21:40] Unknown:
Dialectic.
[03:21:46] Unknown:
Yeah. And that would make it sort of a trap if you're I think if if I was given that letter, the first thing I'd have to ask the party sending it is what is their definition of operation of law, and how is that an exemption, what you're stating?
[03:22:08] Unknown:
And what law are they operating under? And to define every single word, actually, because if you can't comprehend what you're saying without, the proper definitions that you can, comprehend. And that's another trap is the language is how they perverted it. And and Brent and I were talking about this last night as far as, you know, our kids being taught a language down the same, but had different meanings in that part of the, divide and conquer.
[03:22:51] Unknown:
Well, if you just look at the context of us sending them an affidavit and then refusing it except under operation law that begins to tell you that they're up to no good and should not be trusted?
[03:23:08] Unknown:
I think that we participate in more presumptions and equivocations than what we realize.
[03:23:17] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Getting out of this the brainwashing we've been given all our lives doesn't happen overnight.
[03:23:29] Unknown:
It's a process, but it's a process worth traversing on. The path of truth is narrow, but well worth it, most gratifying.
[03:23:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So I think if we we we stick to, our creator and biblical law, we'd be better served in in the status that we're selecting. That's why the Catholic church has to throw that document, the Bible, under the bus.
[03:24:26] Unknown:
Well, they helped created it. Did they not? I mean No. K.
[03:24:34] Unknown:
They made up their own doctrine, and then when it got out what the book really said, that's what created the reformation, Gregory. That's what no. Like, you were talking about this conquistadors. These weren't Jesus like people. These were Catholics. A big difference.
[03:25:03] Unknown:
Oh, I see that.
[03:25:05] Unknown:
Well, Catholic, wouldn't it just be another word for Romans pretty much.
[03:25:13] Unknown:
Really what it means is universal, and that's what they're really going for. They wanna be the new world religion. They wanna appeal to everybody, not what the book says. They're trying to make the book palatable through different translations so that everybody can just get along.
[03:25:38] Unknown:
I don't know. If I I got cut off, so I'm not talking about Verizon too much. I sent the Papal Nuncio, which is the Holy See's office in Washington, DC, the last copy of the acceptance in honor of the invoice and the birth certificate and indemnified name. So just so that because I think it is just a governmental organization, you know, the the Nevada kind. So I think, you know, there's three three levels of of spirituality. There's, you know, somebody that note notice, and there's somebody that actually accepts, and then there's someone who has a fiduciary duty to it that has the trust and the faith. You know? So I think there's a lot of levels to that. And one of the levels with noticing is just, you know, the two kingdoms. Right? You got this temporal kingdom as well as the eternal kingdom.
Temporal kingdom is allowed by god just the same way as the eternal kingdom is in a hill.
[03:26:38] Unknown:
Well, all of the reformers to a man considered the papacy and the Vatican, nothing more than the beast in
[03:26:50] Unknown:
Revelations. Right. And I'm not sure about that interpretation. I mean, there's there's a lot about those revolutionaries, and some call them reformers, some call them revolutionaries. But, yeah, it's a there's I think there's probably two sides to to every coin that way. No. Those guys were actually reading what it said in the Bible, which didn't fit the theology
[03:27:12] Unknown:
of the Pope, that's what the Reformation was about. Most of these guys were Catholics first and realized they've been lied to when they got translations of what the book really said. That's why those translations have to be destroyed or made look to make look like they are in error because they're pointing directly at the church as being an imposter. Right. What what what's that video that Paul posted today, the the great bible hoax of 1881? You get a feel for how important this is.
[03:28:09] Unknown:
But I think you can't you can't say that you can't ignore in law what I'm talking to. I don't care about, like, faith right now, if you will, quote unquote, guys, good good faith and credit. You know? Like, what does that mean in the governmental context, and what does that mean in conjunction with who's controlling the resources of the land, presumably or not? You know? But that's who you that's who your appeal is going to is my is my point. Whether it's the beast or not, it's the system that's allowed on on the earth, and god makes the evil man for the day of evil. You know? So
[03:28:42] Unknown:
Well, there's always gonna be that counterfeit. You can always count on that, and it's being careful not to get drawn into the counterfeit and go with the original.
[03:28:55] Unknown:
Yes. And bills bills and FRNs are definitely counterfeit.
[03:29:06] Unknown:
Almost everything is on the planet. That's why it's so hard to discern a lot of this stuff. That was to give you a choice.
[03:29:22] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:29:23] Unknown:
Is that not following the father's jurisdictional, requirement, free will? You can do whatever you want as long as they agree to it. I yield.
[03:29:42] Unknown:
Oh,
[03:29:44] Unknown:
I don't know how many times Jesus says it, but he says it's plenty. Do not be deceived.
[03:30:01] Unknown:
That's a lot easier said than done because we were deceived as soon as, we came out, and our folks were deceived, and their folks were deceived. And we're living a lie unless you open your eye and refuse it. The thing you got to
[03:30:25] Unknown:
that quick where that phrase, Gregory, comes in, come out of her.
[03:30:34] Unknown:
May I speak to the, difference in the words between faith and trust? I think that is, valuable. And it's interesting that you brought that forth, the full faith and credit. That just occurred to me. But trusting trusting in the almighty means that you turn to him with everything. You just don't have faith that he's gonna tend to things, whereas that word faith does. You know? You just believe. So trust is way different, more encompassing than the word faith. I yield. And I might add what goes with trust is obedience, and that's, an important factor that we have to keep in mind as well.
[03:31:41] Unknown:
Yes. I concur. Obedience to the real, not the man made poopy, but and it's very simple for me. I got to make it simple because I'm only working with one brain cell. You know? So, do no harm. And I'm talking about harming any anything, really. Trying to stay in balance with the creation, the creator, and all the, all the natural things in life. I'm trying to preserve life because I see that they're trying to destroy it. They're evil, and that's that's the battle.
[03:32:31] Unknown:
Gregory, I think it would behoove you if you quit stopped being self deprecating. You have more than one brain cell, and all of us on this call know that.
[03:32:46] Unknown:
So Now now, Sherry. If I wanna make fun of my better. If I wanna make fun of my brain cell, by golly, I'm going to. I've been trying to get rid of that creator for a long time, and I just can't seem to drink it away.
[03:33:05] Unknown:
I raise you half a brain cell. We're all, compared to our creator, have less than one brain cell. So that's where faith comes in because a lot of these mysteries are so fantastic that you sort of need faith to believe, but there's plenty evidence also out there for those who care to find it.
[03:33:37] Unknown:
I have a comment, guys. What do you think about scripture? Script. It's an script. You know? It just may believe, like, the Muslim, like, the Catholics. You know what's good and what's bad in your heart. Nobody has to tell you white kids die when they do something wrong because they know in their heart they did something wrong. Their mother, their father don't have to tell them because God wrote everything in her heart. You know, even if the bible is messed with, they could change the words. You have a spirit relationship with God, and he could guide you. That's why you're supposed to pray before you read the bible or before you do anything.
When your day start, you're supposed to pray to God and thank him for everything that he give you. That was my comment, guys.
[03:34:38] Unknown:
Thank you, Boy. That was very well put. Yeah. It's should be done with every action praying to our creator and noticing our creator being in that spiritual realm and not so focused on the materialistic that's out there and all the distractions. But, Man, the distractions are getting more and more prevalent as as I go on.
[03:35:19] Unknown:
Yeah. And people say, oh, they're gonna put them, you know, like the mark of the devil, the the devil system. That's been here for more than two thousand years since the beginning he's trying to put his system, you know. You can say, oh, tomorrow they're gonna bring something. That's the system of the devil. No. This is the war of the devil. He's the god of this earth, but he don't got free range. He do whatever god wants him to do. Because let me tell you something. I was another believer. I stopped believing when my family killed my real mother, you know?
And God opened my eyes. And I find a lot of stuff, and I find you too, guys, you know? Like, they make you believe the we are a little spec of dust in space. Space is not even real. Space is all made believe, you know. You cannot have a vacuum and have fire explosion in a vacuum. It's impossible. You know? That program is really, really, really they take us from three years old, four years old, and they put that stuff in our heads. Even our parents, because they are in the same boat. But, you know, like, I I hear you guys ask Reuters questions because you kind of in doubt.
But, you know, you should in doubt the creator
[03:37:09] Unknown:
because
[03:37:12] Unknown:
he never gonna fail you. He never gonna lie to you, and he's always there for you. We are the ones that there. We are the ones missing, not him. I hear you, guys. Thank you for letting me express myself. I love it. I love it here.
[03:37:35] Unknown:
One of the one of the big reasons with, with the problems with the Catholic religion is Jesus clearly said that you only get to the father through me. The Catholic religion says you get there through the probe, through Mary, through a priest. And it's by good works. Well it's not. And when they were found out for that, the reformers were against of it. Now these same reformers or the people of our day are going along with the Catholic church. That's really
[03:38:12] Unknown:
bothers me. Do you see that building? Do you see that building? It's a snake. The pope where the pope sit where the pope sit down is in the mouth of the snake. It's it's all the ball. The ball. The demons. All demons, you know. That's why the Catholic church is so weak. Because they're not praising Jesus. They're not praising God. Well, they're praising their own God. They got many saints. They pray to the virgin, you know. And Jesus tells you, you say it right there. You come to my father only through me. And you are Jesus. I am Jesus. We are Jesus.
[03:39:05] Unknown:
Ari. Jesus. Hey, Boris.
[03:39:10] Unknown:
What's up, John? Hey, Boris. I just may I ask how how did your family kill your real mother?
[03:39:19] Unknown:
Well, you know, with all these, poisoning that they do in my mom was, like, 60, and she has Alzheimer's. And she started losing her, you know, her chances. She don't know who she who she was. And my sister, take her to Boston. My mother used to live with me. But she, you know, she wasn't in jail. I give her free rides. She could go and come whatever she wants. But she decided that she wanna go with my little sister, you know, because that was her her main, you know, she she was the little one. But they don't take care of her, you know. They a person they seek me care.
And if you don't love someone you're not gonna care about it. And my sister took her to Boston and put her in a old people home, you know. And, she got sick from her kidneys, and she don't wanna do chemotherapy. She don't wanna do that stuff. She say it hurts too much, and they let her die with they give her morphine and they let her die. They don't give her chemotherapy or nothing. And when I got to Boston, all my brothers tell me they had to sign a paper to kill my mom. You know? I'm sorry guys.
[03:41:04] Unknown:
I'm sorry, Barry.
[03:41:06] Unknown:
No. It's fine. It's fine. And I tell them no. I don't wanna do that. My mom is my mom, and I don't wanna let sign nothing to kill her because I don't want her to die. Why they don't give her medical attention? And they saying there was nothing to do. You know how they are in those places when they take you, you know? They don't care about you. They just care about your insurance and your money, you know? And, you know, I stopped believing in God because, how my mom died. You know?
[03:41:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So she was she was 67?
[03:41:58] Unknown:
She was young? Like no. She was 54, 53 years old. She was young, you know. But I remember, you know, this lifestyle is how you live your life, you know. You live a good life, you be fine. But when you go to the doctor every six months and you do all these, you know, they kill you. They give you twenty thousand pills and a bunch of stuff. Then you don't even need? It makes you more dumb than you are.
[03:42:50] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:42:56] Unknown:
Yeah. And I would This is a test, Jones. This is a test, and we have to be strong because that's why it's a test. Because they're gonna prove you to see how you how strong you are.
[03:43:11] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[03:43:13] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[03:43:14] Unknown:
Yeah. It's definitely a test. In fact, some have, when they present the birth certificate in court matters, they went to peace with the attorney general's office. They asked the attorney general because, basically, they're coming to attacking you on that person if they did a person, if you will, that entity. So you get the attorney general to defend The United States to defend the state. So that was pretty interesting. So it's a it is a test, and it comes down to good faith and knowing what to have faith and what not to have faith in.
[03:43:50] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:43:54] Unknown:
Thank you, Bori.
[03:44:04] Unknown:
Thank you, guys. Thank you. Like, you don't know how much I love here. Everybody that's here is is a special person, special being. You know, it's hard to talk to people. I don't talk to nobody anymore. I used to, but not anymore. I don't even got we have physical friends anymore because it's not worth it. You know? It's not. I my only friend is my my cat. She's my my real friend. You are my family, guys. We are nationals. We we learning the truth. You know? I don't think this is about, you know, filling up a paper. It's about knowing the truth and and, you know, knowing that all this is, an spiritual battle, you know. It's nothing physical.
People are scared to die, but when they die, they they go to the next level. Energy never dies. That's why you're scared to die. You have to confront your fears and make a relationship with your creator because none of this is real. This is all frequency, all created. You create your own reality. K. You guys think the government is the solution? Hell no. Not even how hard you could go real hard for anybody. They all the same. They put the the enemies and the friends. They put both of them right there for you to choose for one. You know, last election, it was 51 of the candidates for presidency.
Do you hear about any of those? No. Nobody heard about them. And it was public. You know? They just show you whatever they wanna show you, Donald Trump and Kamala. Like, Arbor pipe tell you, when the people need a hero, we're gonna put a hero for them. What the FBI do? They penetrate all the organizations. It doesn't matter if you just sell lifestyle. They infiltrate you. They they govern government. The word tell you, the various message. They govern your mind. They wanna be there to know what you're saying, what you're doing. That's the devil because the devil cannot be in every place all the time.
But with technology, he's been doing it. You got your phone. You got your TV. You know, he's there watching you with technology. He cannot be in physical phone there, but he's there. And we have to go in Minions.
[03:48:13] Unknown:
Hey, Bori. Have you ever heard of I m as in Mary, b as in boy, d as in dog? IMBD Or it could be IMBD. Yes. And go and search, the cast calls for, AOC. That these are all characters. Dan Bongino.
[03:48:38] Unknown:
Yeah. And you she she don't live in the Bronx. She she's from, from Uptown New York, from a rich city.
[03:48:47] Unknown:
Right. Which goes back to your script that you were speaking of early on.
[03:48:52] Unknown:
Your side. It's crazy. You know? It's all created for art.
[03:48:59] Unknown:
To keep us busy and and not worrying about what they're doing. To keep us entertained and, think that somebody's doing something about something, and therefore, we don't have to. I yield. And back to the scripts. That is what where they what they use to, give us the choice. They tell us what they're doing, and, they that's their informed consent. And we don't take it as such, but it fits the parameters of doing so. I yield.
[03:49:54] Unknown:
Yes. We cosign their bullshit.
[03:50:01] Unknown:
And which state why you do it?
[03:50:08] Unknown:
Alright. That's why we surrender the, birth certificate both both birth certificates. Probably one is a credit, one's a debit. If you have two in your state, I know we have a in Delaware, we had a live birth certificate or a certificate of live birth and then a birth certificate. So surrender them and basically turn the interest over to different interests that they have in those or that you have in those and turn those interests, into the definition that you have, not letting them be presumed by the state. Thank you.
[03:51:03] Unknown:
Sorry. I don't really understand that. Can you please elaborate?
[03:51:11] Unknown:
At the state is making presumptions not only in your status as a national or citizen, but also based on the financials, which every court case is basically just a financial deal even if it's criminal. But, obviously, there are common law crimes still. But everything else, you know, the courts a bank. And so, you can surrender your birth certificate or you can bring it into a court and show them, hey. This is a turnover. Any interest that I have to you with this guy here, it's a different guy. It's not you. But they use that, of course, to create DLs and everything else in in the law. So you can surrender, the certificates because it's an indemnification when they took when they when they made the banking acts and turned everybody into a walking piece of real estate.
They took the acts of God of birth, marriage, everything else, took those acts and turned them into something they could certificate and hypothecate and put liens on or whatever they're doing. Who cares? Fact is at law, like Sherry read earlier, at law, they've defined something unless we rebut that presumption. They're gonna keep presuming on it. So that that was the that was the idea that, that's something I'm personally working on now. And, I think it's it's complimentary to national status, cleans up a lot of stuff economically that we haven't unless we're using unless we're using silver and gold, you know, and trading with each other, everybody's in some kind of commerce including the the tax they put on your head or the tax they put on the land yield.
[03:52:49] Unknown:
Hey, George. Have you heard about the CRIS, c r I s, Court Registry Investment System? And that's where all the judges get their retirement from. So, they invest any, court fees, fines that you owe that you haven't quite paid yet that goes into that system. Also one other thing they have upped it a notch and they have turned it into a patentable mode of operation. They have it's under patent and trademarks now. And so when you go into court, it's a method. It's a system that they use that's been patented. And so the court doesn't even necessarily know or have the jurisdiction in which to hear the matter. But most people do not realize that they have patented the processes that they've used to streamline them, of course, ideal.
[03:53:56] Unknown:
George, are you at all worried about surrendering your birth certificate? And, I'm I'm worried that they may claim your assets that were created under that birth certificate as not yours anymore.
[03:54:17] Unknown:
Well, they can, they can make the claim to the assets, but also they have all the liabilities. So I'm not worried about the assets because I think but but you're you're exactly right. Do you if you don't handle the use of frupt the correct way, if you don't assign the interests the right way, use of fraud can work against you. So you have to do it the right way. So in that sense, yes, you're you're correct in that. But remember also, they'll have all the liabilities. That's that's the idea. But anything that you would have in life, you know, that would be a requirement. You're basically basically stating to them based on their system that they have. They they offered a peace offering.
And part of the egg as well as the Libri code say you gotta take care of the inhabitants that are there. So think of yourself kind of on an Indian reservation.
[03:55:35] Unknown:
Where did you hear about, signing over your birth certificate to the court? Is that something hand of unrights or is that something you found from a group or how did you hear about that?
[03:56:01] Unknown:
They're using the birth certificate on a court situation, and then in engaging the attorney general to defend you would be, that that's from Boris's study group. So, there's a telegram, which I'm actually, I just got a burner phone, so I'll be joining that. So some of his testimonies and recordings in conjunction with other people, guy in Hawaii, that had done that. So, yeah, I don't I'm not familiar with rights or other groups.
[03:56:41] Unknown:
So is this for normal US citizens, or is this for US nationals? I'm sorry. Foreign nationals.
[03:56:53] Unknown:
I think anyone can can do it, because everyone most likely has a birth certificate if, you know, there might be some people that are stateless or whatever. But, I think the birth certificate based on, you know, the the takeover, civil war, and the banking act, and then the kind of recreating The United States as gonna be kind of the new Roman Empire with the all the world wars and 800 bases across the the world. My sense is that the birth certificate is an indemnification for the inhabitants to to use as a, as a peace offering. So I think it not necessarily that we you know, I don't know if their securities there's probably leans on it and all that. That's some stuff on how you would how you'd live your life. But, regardless of all that, I would, you know, I would guess that it's because they they really named people as, you know, as the the the land as they they it would be in it would be involuntary servitude if they didn't provide a remedy to to take care of, of the inhabitants that are that are here.
So it would be it'd be basically, you know, you use the s word. But it's we're really not slaves. We're really just we just don't know enough how to use it, I think. And I think that's the that's what but it's but I think it's there there for a reason. So but, you know, again, I haven't I've only heard testimonies of these folks. I haven't done all these things myself. So what I'm trying first is some of the handling some of the bills, and then I'm gonna try with the territorial jurisdiction challenge, handle the assessor, and handling the mortgage company, things like that. So but I'm still waiting on all my, stuff from secretary of state US because I wanna put everything into the county with the with the depositional affidavit that, does the surrender and assigns the interest in the right way.
[03:59:09] Unknown:
So it sounds extra constitutional.
[03:59:16] Unknown:
Yes. It's very constitutional because the constitution was basically put in place for commerce. So it's kinda like a long you know, because really we just needed the articles of Confederation, but then they had to well, then they had to they because they had territories, they had to come up with territorial jurisdiction. So that's where that arose. You know, Washington was kind of the governor of these new territories, like the Minnesota territory or whatever. So that territorial jurisdiction is still there, and they use that a lot. Unless you challenge that, they presume you into that territorial jurisdiction for your land or whatever.
So that's what I've learned so far. And then, of course, after the the Northwest ordinances was the constitution. So none of these other laws went away. They just got kinda built on. And then, of course, you had the Reconstruction Acts and they changed the constitution with the fourteenth amendment and all that. But, you know, the you're basically telling them with all these things, hey. Look. I'm, I'm not asking you the question. You're telling the the public service. I'm not asking you the question the public debt because they can't. They're fourteenth amendment citizens, and you can't do that as per the fourteenth. So I'm telling them deal deal with this bill, you know, to reduce the public debt.
Deal with this bill. You have the you have the ability. I accept it in honor. I'm going to peace with you. Go and do what you do in the background. I'm not fine filling out any IRS forms. I'm not doing any of that stuff. They know how to I'm not an accountant. I'm not an IRS agent. They do that stuff. So it's very constitutional in that way, I think. Because, of course, the IRS is basically, there's only what? Two constitutional, quote, unquote, income taxes. So, yeah, I think it's I think it's very it's very on point. It fits right with nationality. I I think, you know, it's good to have a passport card that says this, and it's good to say I'm free to go.
But, you know, if, if we can't, if we can't distinguish what that officer is trying to do, which is he's trying to take your birth certificate name and create something from it. Right. Create a bond, whatever they do in the background. If we can't, challenge that, I think, you know, it's, it's, we've got kind of, a a limitation on our not challenge it, but but go to peace with it. We're we're not we're not challenging. We're really going to peace with it. Challenge the territory or jurisdiction is a way to go to peace as well because we're not part of of their territory. We're on we're still on the state.
[04:01:55] Unknown:
George?
[04:01:59] Unknown:
Yes.
[04:02:01] Unknown:
Have have you ever read Brose's whole piece and, how he looks at the constitution?
[04:02:09] Unknown:
The two the two different, definitions into the chart?
[04:02:15] Unknown:
That one? Well, there's just there's the chart support what he's talking about in there. And, you know, he even uses the term a territory and the territory as differences. Mhmm. And he's got the I think from what I hear you say, you might get some other clues if you read Broust's piece, USA, the Republic that nobody lives in because he sits on some of these things as there's two constitutions working side by side consecutively. And the problem with the the big problems in his opinion, like, Rogers recited Corrales, he he doesn't use that analogy, but history recited canal or or or holding pen for us is the fourteenth amendment, the loss of the gold, and the, Swift versus Tyson going away.
He said that's how they got control. And he gets into the territories, in a way that I mean, he's basically saying, one of the reasons in fact, in fact, I think he states it now. Sometimes I get him and the book of the hundreds cross connected, but I'm pretty sure Broost also says that, the the constitution was actually held in secret because they were trying to hide from England what they were actually up to in creating this sort of new document that they didn't wanna give them a heads up on of what it was really trying to do. So there's there's you know, everybody, of course, from, like, the Gaddy side of the world wants to to say they were up to no good, which they probably also were that as well. But the some of the secrecy might have been for that reason as well.
Because it's the first thing that, Luther or Luther Martin objected to. He got there late. He realized they were doing it in secret, and he objected to that immediately. And he ended up leaving because he also could tell that they weren't there to amend the articles of confederation. They were there to bring in a whole new document. But a lot of times, you know, we have a tendency to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and there's little nuggets that we need to hold on to about what people are really trying to do regardless of their motives, sometimes.
I mean, I I will see the hand of God in a lot of this stuff. They may had an agenda, but you can count on God had one too.
[04:05:36] Unknown:
No doubt. And and I will, actually, I printed out that, that booklet, so I will revisit that. And, you know, I think I think it was, I think you were the first one that brought that up too to to to my attention was, you know, just like multiple designs within the constitution. And, I think it's it is ultimately the act of God. Right? Everything everything is the act of God.
[04:06:01] Unknown:
So all our challenges and everything. Right? So I'm pretty much sure it's I need to reread it myself, because your opinions when you're reading something, if you're not aware of certain things, you'll just read over them and they'll just not be there. Right? And Burroughs is sort of making the point that this document is meant to allow the people at the time to be in under the protections of the constitution and that contract or outside of it and to contract outside of it. And to be able to flip flop whenever they feel it it suits their needs as long as it's not harming another person.
Right? But we lost that because now we've got we're out if we're not if we're fourteenth amendment citizens, we're always contracting with the federal government holding our hand. We can never get out of it. Or that didn't used to be the case, but they laid two tracks. You could go down one or the other, and they basically eliminated one with those three major things according to Bros, the gold standard, the fourteenth amendment, and the commerce clause of the, Slick versus Tyson.
[04:07:32] Unknown:
Mhmm. And that's kind of the idea is like, okay, the birth certificate, if you will, is that is that United States. It is The United States citizen. It is that persona or whatever. And using the constitution that way, like, what is what is the constitution protect? And what does the attorney general, if it's a state item, which we still have an interest in, you know, and that's where we can assign interest with it. And I don't know if he gets into the gets into the birth certificate at all in that document, but,
[04:08:03] Unknown:
I think He doesn't he doesn't really do it that way, but he he says after the fourteenth amendment, your will was probated at birth. And that you need to calls call that back. That's what his declaration of independence is about. And that's where he uses by operation of law as being your enemy because that's exactly what happened at the fourteenth amendment. It's the way I read it anyway. And that's what bothers me if they're refusing us, like, if it's missus Robinson or the state department refusing one of us with an affidavit and making the alternative or the exemption, by operation of law, what the hell are they saying to us?
I think it's a trap myself. I think we should at least be aware of it and investigate it. And when we get letters like that, we need to call them out on it and verify it. What does it mean? Why are you directing me here as an exemption? Are you trying to tell me something, or are you trying to entrap me?
[04:09:17] Unknown:
Right. Who are you? What do you want? And why should I care? Just to to quote to quote Bart. He he uses why the f should I care? Yeah. Basically, it's it's three things, you know, because rebut any presumption. Proof of claim, you know, proof of claim with it with whatever you're writing that you didn't even sign. Did she even sign it right? So
[04:09:38] Unknown:
Well, I I still wanna get my hands on one of those. I'd like to get both. I'd like to get a missus Robinson, and I'd like to get a one from the the state department. Because according to Roger, there's there's two. At least two letters. So we and those should be scrutinized. And we should have a response letter that doesn't just rebut their presumption. We should rebut their wording and what they mean by it. Because, you know, if you if if you don't if you don't attack a presumption, it becomes the fact. And that's simply might be what they're up to there.
[04:10:27] Unknown:
Samuel, I believe the two letters, one is from the state department, missus Robinson, and the other is from the IRS. I think those are the two. And, I think Paul said the other day that his missus Robinson letter, he had up on the website.
[04:10:49] Unknown:
So Well, if somebody can send me copies of those, I'd and if you have my email, that's probably the best way because then I can send it to my printer and have it printed out.
[04:10:59] Unknown:
No. Samuel, I don't think I have your email, but if you text it to me, that would be great. I yield.
[04:11:05] Unknown:
Because that by operation of law is what is what Prost is using in his declaration of end independence to set himself free, and missus Robinson is using it as your exemption for what her statements are except by operational law. I just think there's something stinks about that.
[04:11:32] Unknown:
Is she real, or is she from Paul Simon's missus Robinson's song?
[04:11:38] Unknown:
Probably closer associated to, Cuckoo Cuckoo. Yes. And, you know, just be all you have to do is consider the source. Right? I mean, these people are not out there to help us out.
[04:11:56] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:11:58] Unknown:
Truly, when they're refusing your affidavit. Right?
[04:12:03] Unknown:
Yep.
[04:12:05] Unknown:
Anyway, I'll leave it at that. That's yeah. If I can get a copy of those sometime later today, I'll, I'll get you my, my email. I'd like to get my hands on those too. And I don't think does the IRS use the term as well? Oh, yeah. Or Oh, yeah. By by operation of law? Okay. That's interesting. So, you got two people who are really trying to help you out. So to speak.
[04:13:42] Unknown:
Now I did, find an interesting article. I don't think it was, it was from a different source. It's an affidavit, use of military rule, state of Maine, county of Cumberland. Comes now David Robinson, the natural living flesh and blood man. A peaceful American on the land under oath who states, when the representatives of Southern states walked out of congress, seceding from the union at the start of the civil war, and congress adjourns seen die. Abraham Lincoln as commander in chief of the army of the republic under military rule ordered government to continue order according to the statutes of the newly established labor code article 31, which states the victorious army appropriates all public money, seizes all public movable property until further direction by its government, and sequesters for its own benefit or of that of its government all the revenues of real property belonging to the hostile government or nation.
The title of such real property remains in abeyance during military occupation and until the conquest is made. Complete. Article 31. In other words, Lincoln's army took exclusive possession of all public money in the US Treasury, seized the title to all public movable property, and set apart in a common trust all the revenues of the real property of state governments for the army's benefit and the benefit of The United States. The titles to such real property have remained in suspension or banes during the military occupation of The United States and remain so today until peace is declared. And to the property owners who did not flee the state, the commanding officer gave receipts to ensure that the plundered owners would be indemnified.
Private property, quote, unless forfeited by crimes or by offenses of the owner, can be seized only by way of military necessity for the support of other benefit or other benefit of the army or of The United States part 38 of the legal code. We call this part of the legal code the usufruct clause. Why? Because usufruct is the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from property owned by someone else. Use the front. The right of enjoying the thing, the property of which is vested in another and to draw from the same all the profit, utility, and advantage which it may produce, provided that it be without altering the substance of the thing. So who has the conditional right in this case? Who has the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from something that someone else owns, provided that it be without altering the substance of the thing? Lincoln's army had the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from the property that it sees from the people through conquest.
To the victor goes the spoils. Eusifractory, the one who has the right and enjoyment of it in usufruct. The five duties of the usufructory according to the rules of usufruct in the labor code are, one, to make an inventory of the things subject to the use of the act in the presence of those having an interest in them. Two, to give security for the restitution when the use of the act shall be at an end. Three, to take good care of the things subject to the use of the act. Four, to pay all taxes and claims which arise while the thing is in his possession as a ground rent. Five, to keep the thing in repair at his own expense. Now many of you who read this will begin to ask, okay. This is all well and good for the so called United States. But what about the rest of us? Have no fear. The engineers of the system also thought of the rest rest of us, which why they had a little convention in a place called The Hague in nineteen o seven. From that convention came article 55, which states, the occupying state shall be regarded only as administrator and use of fracture of public buildings, real estate, forest, and agricultural states belonging to the hostile state and situated in the occupied country. It must safeguard the capital of these properties and minister to them in accordance with the rules of Euspra.
That's the end of article 55, The Hague. Article 38 of the Libra code acknowledges that the occupational forces have a corresponding duty not alter the lands or the producers of the fruit upon which it needs to survive. This is how the Romans were able to conquer the world. They knew that if the lands were raped and torn asunder, all the ability to produce what the army needed, the army was doomed. So it would only take the excess for its needs and allow the lands and its inhabitants to keep what they needed to keep producing so the army would not starve to being so far away from, quote, home. Lincoln's army is the use of factory that had the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from what it seized from the public, provided that it be without altering the substance of the thing.
According to the rules of use of fraud and the labor code, the five duties do and remain. Military government must make an inventory of the people's property subject to the use of fraud in the presence of those of an interest in them. Must publish that inventory list to all those concerned. Two, the military government must give security for the restitution of people's property. At the end of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the fact. Military government must pay all taxes and debt claims. Military government must maintain the people's property. Basically, that's a restating of those five. Do not all roads lead to Rome? Quote, it was nice of them to include us within the confines of this war.
But how is the rest of the world included? Could it be that wherever the IMF, US Treasury, Fed Reserve, intervenes with a bailout, the system is then implemented? Why else would they, quote, be in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan? I'll bet if you look at history, you will find that IMF had loaned or given them some sort of assistance. Now everyone can participate in the perfection that is the system, quote. You also note that also security and birth certificates fall in the Department of Commerce and Agriculture agricultural states. Do you really think that was by accident?
The birth certificate trust that the federal government created when I was born is a public vessel in commerce and identifies the fictional person that is used by giving my given name as part of the federal municipal trust. It's a Roman inferior SESTAKV trust created by the secretary of the treasury of Puerto Rico, the bankruptcy receiver of The United States Of America Incorporated, the failed government services corporation chartered in Delaware by the Roman Catholic church. As a result of the acts of this US bankruptcy trustee, all living Americans have been declared dead presumed to be lost at sea on the sea of commerce. Furthermore, they're infants.
All living Americans are classified oh, here he goes. At the internal revenue manual, r m 21Dot7 dot 13 dot 3 dot two dot three as, quote, infant decedents as infants who have died. So we notify the IRS of our correct status as being alive instead of an infant decedent and assign all our reversionary interest in the Social Security trust state two and four of The United States for title 12 USC 95 a two and twelve USC 95 b for full quittance and discharge of all our debts. We're free of IRS control. This is a remedy guaranteed to us as a result. Congress issuing fiat debt notes based upon our labor instead of real money of account based on silver and gold because the vast majority of us never agreed to this new deal. We retain the full right of ownership to claim to our assets. We are we are owed the revenue return of our property without signing away any of our prerogatives and rights. This peace offer from the criminals running the US Congress is only a means of the perpetuate perpetuators or crimes to avoid the consequences of their acts by presumably and tacitly securing our consent and a presumptive commercial contract allowing their abuse and our own enslavement to continue. United States Of America minor never had any right to create the John Quincy Public Trust, all caps, in the first place. So all assets of Roman inferior SESTAKV trust revert to the entitlement holder and must be returned to the entitlement holder, revenued, free of debt, and encumbrances accumulated by any false trustees or secondary beneficiaries.
Once it is clear that we are living Americans are not agreeing to act as incorporated things, all members of the Bar Association are obligated by the very treaty that allows their presence on American soil to lend aid and assistance to us, and the military forces are obligated to come to our defense. So unless you work for the Puerto Rican Commonwealth and hope to be paid by them, you better do what's right. The John Quincy public, all caps, Social Security trust was created by the Social Security Act of 1935 and says what it says. The trust is coercive, bogus, and based on fraud, unfunded except by labor and contributions of its victim. General order 100 articles thirty one and thirty eight holding title in abeyance in the labor code. All property is held in abeyance including the baby born on the battlefield and the income stream from that asset. The Department of Defense takes the property and trust to hold in abeyance and safekeeping.
Issuance of indemnification receipt, Libri code 38, meaning the birth certificate. As peaceful civil civilian inhabitants, we are indemnified from any cost and damage resulting from the action of the US army. Only peaceful living inhabitants of the domestic and organic states have the civil authority to command the armed forces of the United States of America Republic. Only we can require the US Congress and the president of a government services corporation under contract to serve us to quit their criminal shenanigans or be ousted like vermin chased from a storehouse.
All others, by accepting citizenship of the corporate United States, have given up their right to say anything whatsoever to the armed forces of our American Republic. So that was really interesting. That's David Robinson. I don't know if he's still alive. He's from Brunswick, Maine. Subscribed to and sworn to before God, Titus one two, the December. That's his affidavit. Sorry.
[04:23:23] Unknown:
Can you post that in the chat? Is that something you can do?
[04:23:29] Unknown:
Interesting.
[04:23:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I let me see. I can, actually, I'm on a computer. I'm never on, so I'll I think I have that shortcut. And I will I have this printed out, but I'm sure if I, you know, I'm back, I could find find it. So it might might take me a minute. If not, I can email you a link. Let me see. Yeah.
[04:23:53] Unknown:
Yes. We Oh, would would you agree that, that is essentially what Brost is saying in his declaration of independence?
[04:24:03] Unknown:
Yes. From what I read of yeah. This is such a simple statement, what he has in his declaration of independence. Yes.
[04:24:10] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I think you're gonna find some jewels of what you're looking into in his treatise. It's not that long. It it it it's it's a it's challenging for me to when I originally read it, and I had to read it several times, especially certain areas over and over again to really start to get it. But I I think it's worth it, Because I think you're gonna find those same answers that you're looking for reinforced there and maybe just give you a little different way of saying it and clues to what the reality of it really are. You know what I'm saying?
[04:25:00] Unknown:
Yes. I think his writing is very helpful for sure. In fact, I printed that out. I think I not sure if I even went to Staples to print, but I definitely is that the one that no. Actually, the other one, and then I I never took I took it to Brazil, I think, and read it. And then I filed it. So I'll I'll reread it, though.
[04:25:20] Unknown:
Samuel, doesn't stroll. George, I requested you email that to me, if you wouldn't mind. And, Samuel, doesn't that speak to directly the Libra code in the military code as to how our courts operate? I just think it's really profound what you just read. And who did he file that affidavit with? Do you know, George? Who did he send it to? File it in court? What? Do you know?
[04:25:51] Unknown:
I sent it off. Maybe his website. He does not have he just has it as state of Maine County Cumberland, so he probably put it into the county. I would assume that maybe he copied. But I don't have any c c's on here of him, but he did he gave his email so he could be contacted. Now he signs, David Everett Robinson, comma, FENT authorized representative, comma, attorney in fact in behalf of and then all the caps name, comma, ends. So, again, that two the two people. You know? Mhmm.
[04:26:31] Unknown:
Hey. Real quick. Off the subject. But on the subject, I sent a copy of an audio copy of to a lot of you, and, it'll give you more into what's going on. But you can download it to your hard drive, I yield.
[04:26:57] Unknown:
Yes. All the same issues. Exactly. Yep.
[04:27:02] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. History repeats. Right. But they're they're put forth in detail and, the operation of law that they're using for you to come out of. I think that is an important distinction to put forward. Shoot. Kinda lost my train of thought. I know. That's
[04:27:21] Unknown:
basically, what Frost is doing in his declaration of independence is he's, he's saying, no. I don't want anything more to do with the re democracy. I wanna be back into the republic, and I'm refuting all your operations of law. As having any power and effect over me as a member of the republic.
[04:27:51] Unknown:
No doubt. That's the common man's language. I yield, Brent.
[04:27:57] Unknown:
You should hear what Adolf has to say. Dude was in-depth. Now I kinda know why they didn't want us to read it and discouraged it and what have you over the years. And this is my first time hearing it. I'm about four hours into it, and it is very deep.
[04:28:24] Unknown:
Wren, have you seen the what document?
[04:28:27] Unknown:
A fine call.
[04:28:29] Unknown:
Oh. Hitler's Another great clue at what he thought about America was when he declared war on us. That speech is now available in English as well.
[04:28:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Brent, have you seen, the diary entry that JFK made regarding Hitler?
[04:28:49] Unknown:
Yes.
[04:28:51] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Just making sure that he had a foregone respect for the man. I yield.
[04:28:59] Unknown:
Mhmm. Well, he visited him, I think, in '62.
[04:29:06] Unknown:
In Argentina?
[04:29:08] Unknown:
Yep. I never heard that. Keeper. Yeah. I had I had neither till about maybe a year or six months ago. He made some trip down here to see him.
[04:29:28] Unknown:
Well, Harry Cooper did say that, all presidents from, I believe, I Eisenhower forward went to Argentina, a yield. So in that regard, I don't see why, Kennedy wouldn't be the same. And I wonder if his diary entry, I believe it does precede his presidency. So I, yeah, it would make sense that JFK went to Argentina. Hi, Yield.
[04:30:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it was in 1946 that he, made that entry, if I remember correctly.
[04:30:18] Unknown:
That seems about right. But with Hitler, just like with anybody else who has knowledge and wisdom, they buy them off, and it seems that everybody has a prize. You know? Here, there's some pockets of things. It's go away, and don't tell anybody.
[04:30:49] Unknown:
Well, I think Hitler was kinda like, what was that? There was a, black civil rights guy in Atlanta, and he said, I'm unbossed and unbought. And Hitler was unbossed and unbought, I think.
[04:31:11] Unknown:
Until the end. Look what he left for Germany to endure after he hopped a plane to Argentina. That's all I'm saying. There's no imperfect
[04:31:24] Unknown:
Well, he he didn't do it willingly. They knocked him out and kidnapped him.
[04:31:35] Unknown:
I hadn't heard that.
[04:31:37] Unknown:
Yeah. He wasn't a willing participant.
[04:31:42] Unknown:
Okay.
[04:31:44] Unknown:
But afterwards perspective. Well, afterwards, I I think he was grateful they did it. I think he was caught up in the moment of my country's about to get taken out, and I am too.
[04:32:12] Unknown:
I think the chances of him being a bit of a pawn were also potentially there. I mean, he was pretty tight with the Catholic church, which probably stabbed him back. He supposedly loved the organization of the Jesuit order and used that for the SS. But there's so much written on him, and you can bury anything you want or accentuate anything you want. Sort of like Lincoln. You know? Where's the man all bad or all good? You know? He really looked like a rotten SOB to me, but Hitler is even, I think, even more hidden.
[04:33:05] Unknown:
Well, on, you're saying it was set up like the Jesuits or the Jew suits. Yeah. They had Jews in there. Oh, yeah. In the SS.
[04:33:18] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. In the regular army as well. Like, this all of this stuff about him being anti Semitic is is who he hated these people who are undermining his country, which were part of that tribe. But, in general, I mean, I think they had over a 100,000, I think, partially Jewish people in the army right on up to general. So I think his bodyguard as well as his chauffeur were both Jewish. People very close to him were Jewish. So you know? But like I said, they wanna, you know, it's it's either all all or not, you know, anything, and it's just people aren't like that. You know? And they change in time as they see things and understand things. Maybe they understand they were duped or trapped and changed course. You know? I mean, that thing was going on a lot longer before we even got involved in it. You know?
[04:34:30] Unknown:
Awesome.
[04:34:31] Unknown:
And it was definitely France and England trying to get rid of them as competition. It was the same thing they were doing in World War one.
[04:34:39] Unknown:
Right. Commerce. Germany.
[04:34:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Commerce. Well, my It all had to do with commerce. I yield.
[04:34:47] Unknown:
And Mein Kampf, at our, at the two hour and fifty two minute mark is when he starts on the Jews, and he breaks it down from his first noticing them to it's like these are vile people. You know, he's just peeling the onion layers back and telling you what he bought of them and what he can and he finally gets to. I became anti Semitic.
[04:35:25] Unknown:
Unfortunately, he sent them to, to Palestine, and I wish he would have gotten Madagascar going with them. I would have put them a little bit more out of touch, especially with things like oil fields and such And religion. I would have put the caboose in the old religion thing too.
[04:35:50] Unknown:
They would I think they would have found a way to start some shit, some kind of way.
[04:35:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, at least they would have been on the island.
[04:35:59] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:36:01] Unknown:
Because you could say that about England too, which they took over, but, you know.
[04:36:05] Unknown:
And you got the nuclear buffer.
[04:36:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. They're definitely God's chosen people, and their their god ain't wearing white.
[04:37:05] Unknown:
What is the website to post? Let me see. To post that. I don't think I have it open anymore. Somebody's asking me about posting, the article that I read.
[04:37:21] Unknown:
Oh, well, I think he was wanting you to post it in free conference call, but you're not in that, are you, George? Aren't you in by phone?
[04:37:29] Unknown:
But there is I I am in front of a computer, so I could if I knew the website. Yep.
[04:37:36] Unknown:
Number two, Radio Ranch. Radio
[04:37:40] Unknown:
okay. Chat 210 go?
[04:37:43] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[04:37:44] Unknown:
Yep. Okay.
[04:37:46] Unknown:
Alright. I'm gonna put that back to the 10 go. Yeah. That's what he said, Brent. K. But I think that stays up there for, like, thirty or sixty, possibly ninety days. Not really sure how far back it goes.
[04:37:59] Unknown:
It depends on still as much stuff gets put in as to whether it scrolls off.
[04:38:07] Unknown:
I can email If you're on the if
[04:38:09] Unknown:
you're on a computer, you can, go into the free conference call app or onto the website at least and then get in, put it in a chat. Okay.
[04:38:29] Unknown:
Okay. I just posted I think I just posted it. Okay. I just posted it twice. I see. Okay. And then, Sherry, you want me to email it to you?
[04:38:37] Unknown:
Yes, please. And thank you for doing this, George. Appreciate you. No worries.
[04:38:41] Unknown:
No worries. Yeah. Let's see.
[04:38:48] Unknown:
Hey, Sherry. If you do redundancy, if you could email me, that'd be great.
[04:38:55] Unknown:
I will.
[04:38:56] Unknown:
I think it's the first link in this. This is day I think David Robinson. He 2014, I think he was 79. So I don't know if he's still with us, but his website's still up. It's a WordPress one. So I'm gonna respond to you. Sherry, I got your you sent me. Oh, okay. We got it right here. Okay. Good. Yes. Dave Robinson. Yes. This is Robinson.
[04:39:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Another Robinson. Right? That's pretty funny. I just got that. Okay.
[04:39:29] Unknown:
Alright. So, Sherry, I just sent you that. Yep.
[04:39:35] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll you, Brent, when I get in. And, Robbie,
[04:39:44] Unknown:
Hi there, Sherry. Are you posting as Ida George? Yes. Okay. Thanks.
[04:39:51] Unknown:
I think I have a thing on it. I just never post. I think I do have a membership on it, but I don't
[04:39:55] Unknown:
remember what it was. That that works. Yeah. You just if you're in there for a while, you might get kicked out. You know, if you don't post something, that's that's the reason to have, an account. But, yeah, your your things will stay there like Brent said until it scrolls away to Tel Aviv or wherever.
[04:40:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Right?
[04:40:13] Unknown:
I do a mobile ring.
[04:40:18] Unknown:
But that was so funny. After all my Verizon talk, then then I was getting cut off the off the show because I think texts were coming into me, you know. So if I get a text, I get an old phone, it'll it'll, drop me. But he but David Robinson also has another one. All debts are prepaid. I think I bought his broke up on Amazon. And he he's got an article that I just I think I just Googled that one, but it's pretty good. It's it's, looks like it's six page, just looking at banks differently. He's got he's got some interesting thoughts there. Yeah.
[04:41:11] Unknown:
So that popped up in a Yandex search that set it's on, says, did you know all debts are prepaid? And this is straw man money credit. All one word, strawmanmoneycredit.com. David Robinson.
[04:41:29] Unknown:
Did somebody put that link in the in the chat here?
[04:41:32] Unknown:
In the free conference call?
[04:41:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That was, not for the book, but for what, George was talk or Gary I'm sorry. George was talking about earlier with the affidavit he read.
[04:41:47] Unknown:
I think I just need Yeah. I think the one in the Radio Ranch is the same one, and I think I got in a little too late to be able to get this one in the free conference call, I think.
[04:41:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Let me see. Yeah. I posted that one, that article that you were asking about, the use of military rule. It's the first I don't know if you saw Ida there that that was I think I posted it twice by accident, but I don't know if you saw that.
[04:42:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll pick it up in Sketch just Sketch just put it in, I think.
[04:42:31] Unknown:
It Yeah. The free fruits, though.
[04:42:36] Unknown:
Yep. Thank you, Sketch.
[04:42:39] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[04:42:40] Unknown:
Thank you.
[04:43:16] Unknown:
Hey, Murr. You missed an after show last night. Me and Gregory were talking for probably about three hours.
[04:43:26] Unknown:
Really? Yeah. I I was thinking about going over there and and, I don't know. I I think I just fell asleep, moved to bed. But yeah. So how what what went on? Oh, we just
[04:43:41] Unknown:
talked and talked and talked about everything.
[04:43:45] Unknown:
Uh-huh. That's fun to do.
[04:43:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I actually got some of the hard work done yesterday.
[04:44:00] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Yeah. Whenever you look at this stuff about Hitler, it always says he fled, and he escaped. And and that's even in the title of the book, but, actually, Borman had them both drugged. And, they weren't gonna leave the bunker. They were they were, you know, they were gonna die, you know, because that's Yeah. They had seen committed. They had seen what happened to Mussolini and their people. And they strung them up at the gas station upside down to corpses. And they weren't about to have that on the German people. And to blame everything on him, on that one man. Look what he did to Germany. Excuse me?
Excuse me? What he did, they loved. That's why they Mhmm. Come out. That's why they demonize him to this day. That's the that's the thing I really have against Jews. Come on. Come clean. You're too smart for this. We know you're not
[04:45:01] Unknown:
Had you read Nein Kampf yet? Or I haven't yet. No. You did? Oh, oh, you've all you've never read it before?
[04:45:09] Unknown:
I haven't read it. I I do I've, you know, bits and pieces here and there, but I haven't read the whole thing.
[04:45:15] Unknown:
Oh, okay. All I'd ever heard until you know, was, you quoting, you know, what he had to say about them and their profanity and everything. But, at, at the two hour fifty two minute mark is when he starts off. And he he goes on for quite a bit, and it is in detail.
[04:45:43] Unknown:
Good. Yeah. I think it's chapter four.
[04:45:51] Unknown:
In the in the audiobook, it's, hour it's, two hour fifty two minutes. Mhmm. And and it's a twin it's near a twenty hour book. It's, like, nineteen hours and fifty some minutes.
[04:46:07] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. I I, bought a prime copy of it up years ago, and I was blown away when I I I just got the audiobook. I didn't buy the book. But Why? Yeah. It was makes Yeah. I found a a lot of valid points. That's for sure. I mean, it's
[04:46:33] Unknown:
Yep. Well, that's why they don't want us to read
[04:46:37] Unknown:
it. Yeah. It means my struggle. You know? People make a big deal. Oh, I guess what else is on this Yandex search for that article of, Robinson's, a YouTube with a chaya shalom reading the article. I guess it's a Jewish, it looks like.
[04:47:11] Unknown:
They'll all get the voice inflection wrong so you hear it the way they want you to hear it.
[04:47:20] Unknown:
Well, all debts are prepaid. Jews would be interested in that, wouldn't they now?
[04:47:29] Unknown:
Yeah. But they don't get any Jews who are out of it.
[04:47:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Whenever there there were, any kind of drifting, anything from the government, they're in there first. They, was it just called defamation? The, movie. It was a young Jewish guy that went around filming all this stuff and, the blacks in New York, you know, that they were talking to, and they were saying how, you know, that that was one of the things they they said. How, if there was anything being given out from the government, the Jews were in there first, making sure they got it. Cracked me up.
[04:48:15] Unknown:
Except the trough.
[04:48:18] Unknown:
Wink bae. Trademark. No one dare laugh at Jewish jokes when they're the butt of the joke. That's that's, sacrilegious.
[04:48:52] Unknown:
Oh, real quick. That alteration shop that's closing down here, well, since she's moving to Texas, her brother-in-law isn't going to move here now, and there is a lot of stuff up for grabs out of their storage unit.
[04:49:13] Unknown:
Oh, cool.
[04:49:15] Unknown:
Yeah. They, got a group text, and they put me in it, and that's what the plan of the day is now. And also, there's about four Juki, that's j u k I, sewing machines. They're in, I would say, excellent condition because the guy with the, decedent was a, a mechanical engineer. So he do have to take care of shit.
[04:49:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you met, Susie from Pennsylvania when you were in Alabama. Right?
[04:49:51] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[04:49:52] Unknown:
Well, she does alterations and stuff. Her mother did it, but she had a stroke. And, I think it's her yeah. It's her brother's dry cleaning business, and she does, you know, does all the alterations now.
[04:50:04] Unknown:
Oh, well, getting the machine from Boulder City out to PA. Be a bit much.
[04:50:13] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. And she probably doesn't even need it. I just thought about the there.
[04:50:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he had extra machines in case something went down, and, I guess he got good buys on them.
[04:50:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, they've got the equipment. You know? It's just her mother that had the stroke and can't do it now. So and she had done stuff like that before, but, when I first, started talking with her, knew of her she was doing a a different job, and and the boss was basically, you know, had all the trust in her. But she went around to different how was it, different, was it laundromats? Different places where she had to collect the coins and stuff, I guess.
[04:50:58] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[04:51:00] Unknown:
I think that's what she said she was doing.
[04:51:03] Unknown:
You know? And she just change in Alabama.
[04:51:06] Unknown:
Something like that. I'm not sure just how it all worked, but she was very totally trusted. You know? It was a black guy who was her boss, I believe.
[04:51:24] Unknown:
Yeah. My father owned a laundromat one time, but he'd have somebody, you know, there so that they could be off. And, he wasn't getting the coin that he knew that was there, you know?
[04:51:41] Unknown:
Yeah. And it might not just been laundromats. It might have been something with the coin machines where it should refill them too with tokens or coins or something. I don't know what
[04:51:54] Unknown:
Probably the change machine.
[04:51:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Something like that.
[04:52:00] Unknown:
Well, I'm over in Boulder City now, so, you know, some of my friends. Yep. Yep. It's Monday.
[04:52:10] Unknown:
Well, I heard you guys talking. I couldn't resist. Oh, and and the bit with Hitler, you know, they took him down there, and it wasn't by submarine. He had claustrophobia. And, you know, some, like, say that it it but the planes that article that I posted has a picture of the plane, the type of plane. There were only three made and two that were finished, I guess, that they used. But, it says Paraguay is where he landed at night, but I think it was actually Uruguay. They landed in the middle of the night, but there were people living there that heard it and remembered.
[04:53:14] Unknown:
Murr, did you ever see that documentary on, World War two? It was on YouTube. I forget what it's called, but Roger refers to it on a show. It's like a 10 part series or a nine part series. But that's Europa. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
[04:53:37] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. And definitely gotta see the first one. If nothing else, it's a little over an hour. But, yeah, I've watched all of them, and it really leaves a mark on you. Yeah. Very interesting. You find them on BitChute.
[04:53:58] Unknown:
You took them down. I'm not no. I don't know. But I would assume they did because it was several years ago that I found it. Oh, who took them down?
[04:54:07] Unknown:
I would think that you I I don't think they would be on YouTube now. Well, no. You broke up. That's that's what I thought you were saying. But, yeah, they're on BitChute. You can find them on BitChute. I think. Let me go look now. And if I find them, I'll put them in the tatango.
[04:54:31] Unknown:
It's on VK also,
[04:54:34] Unknown:
the Russian You guys are gonna have to tell me how to get to Shatango. I don't know how to get there.
[04:54:38] Unknown:
Okay. That's, numeral two.
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Is this a website?
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Yeah. It's a chat room, but it is a website. It's numeral two radio ranch, you know, all one word, no spaces or capitals or anything. Numeral2radioranch.chatango or chatandgo, chatango,.com. Yep.
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Ah, I got it. Thank you very much. Mhmm. I'll save it. Yeah. And it's a free,
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account if you wanna get an account. That way, you know, it it actually, if you have a one shatango account, you can get into any of the shatangos. And I have, like,
[04:55:29] Unknown:
a I had it saved on my old phone. I got a new phone, and then all my stuff went away. So I had to I'm building my, bookmarks.
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Yeah.
[04:55:44] Unknown:
Thank you, mom.
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Yep. Can you please repeat the address again?
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Sure. Numeral 2 Radio Ranch Dot Chitango Dot Com. So that's numeral two and then radio ranch, all lowercase, one word.
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Thank you.
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Yeah. You got it? Okay.
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The link is also on the matrixdocs.com.
[04:56:19] Unknown:
Yeah. It is linked there. Yep. There's one Paul put up too, and he made me a, moderator on it, but nobody uses it.
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Is there someone here?
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Welcome here.
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Thanks.
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Yeah. The full euro, Europa documentary is twelve hours twenty two minutes and fifty four seconds.
[04:59:45] Unknown:
Yeah. They have they have I I watched all of them. I think the the first five the first five were very informative. And and and then when it kinda when it kinda got to the last couple hours, it was I think they ran out of material. It was kind of a lot of fluff. But the first five hours are just really, really exciting to watch. That was a huge project. Yeah. Really. Is it on BitChute?
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Yeah. Page Chronicles is the one I'm putting in the Chateango. There. It's in there.
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Yeah. I sent it to a buddy of mine a couple years ago. I said, hey. You should watch this. And he called me back a couple hours later, and he was, like, in tears. Yeah. He was he was really
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he was really I mean, it It tears you up if you didn't know this. Yeah. I mean, even if you did, it tears you up.
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Yeah.
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I'll just put I'm gonna put this search I did at the it shoot because there's couple other ones I have just about the same amount of time. So my one might be better than the other.
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Ever thought about putting it on Rumble?
[05:01:46] Unknown:
Somebody might have. I don't have an account. Well, I just have an account to, to participate in chats in Rumble, which I don't I have one in BitChute too, but I don't I don't have one or want one in YouTube because that's Google. You know? And I do look at things on YouTube, but I don't chat in there. I don't don't wanna sign on to the Google Just like Amazon. What what little of that is possible?
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How about x or, Twitter? Formally,
[05:02:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not on any of the social media. I just do the chats and email. That's it.
[05:02:28] Unknown:
Alright. It is on Lumble.
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It it isn't? I was gonna ask. Yeah. Figures.
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Yep.
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Well, I'm gonna go listen to, Rebel Madman Radio. Talk to you guys later.
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Bless you.
[05:03:08] Unknown:
Have a nice weekend. Well, I'm getting off. I'll see y'all later. Goodbye.
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Morning, folks. Here we go on the Saturday or Sabado, if you speak a little Spanish. Sabado edition, Radio Ranch. Roger Sales, your host, of course, and we are date stamped the nineteenth, July 19. So here we go. Paul, I know we've got a much abbreviated contingent of folks that are helping us today, but I know you wanna give them proper recognition. Have we had any update on Alan?
[00:02:34] Unknown:
Yes. He's, yes. He's fine. They keep, you know, it's kinda like Charlie, early, our our, our girl out in, Colorado.
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Yes. Who we haven't heard from in a long time. Whenever
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whenever you're you're in a legal situation with the state of Colorado. Well, probably any state, but more so Colorado. Every time you throw a hook at them, they they switch gears and they volley back. As a matter of fact, I I think Charlie is training the state of Colorado how to answer objections because she's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And it seems that they're doing pretty much the same thing to Alan. But, but every day, inch by inch, life's essentially gets a little closer.
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So Yeah. Colorado has just gone off the rails. I mean, I'm really shocked because I used to ski out there years ago, of course. And it's all it was always kinda rugged individualism. You know, Brent one of Brent's friends said the the person that's really changed Colorado was, Rocky Mountain High guy.
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John Denver.
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Yeah. So that's that's what really started the change in Colorado. Don't know about that, but it's a beautiful state, lovely mountains, fantastic world class ski resorts, and, unfortunate. Unfortunate. But, boy, it's gone left. It may it it I don't know if it's past California yet, but it's sure trying to get there.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's it's I don't know.
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Me either. I'm shocked. I'm
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I certainly don't envy anyone living there.
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How they've done this to all these people, man. I mean, you know, of course, it's kind of the basis of what we do here is showing you how they've got that type of control. They from the cradle to the grave, they're enslaving and propagandizing you. So, anyway, unfortunately well, we'll look forward to seeing Alan when he gets back.
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Yeah. Then we're we're only on a couple of platforms today. Yeah. I know. Radio. Very limited. Yeah. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we're on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to both of those, platforms are on our website, thematrixdocs.com, as well as the links to free conference call and, the new student section, the downloadables, the exhibits, and just pack a lunch and stay the day. There's a a whole lot of information on that website. It's ugly and it's cumbersome, but it is, it is definitely a drink from a fire hose.
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Yeah. That's for sure. A lot of information here. So I guess, I hope Mark's with us today. You with us, Argh, or not? Yes. Argh's with us. Okay. Good. Yeah. Roger, good morning. Morning. Good morning. I got two things on the agenda today. And, I think new student Austin is hopefully with us, told Julie would be. So I'm gonna I'm gonna take that. We'll get to you in a second, Austin. I wanted to get this other thing out of the way that I was promoting yesterday. It's pretty exciting. Dave, are you with us this morning? Yep. I am.
Okay. I I wanted Dave to tell you all this because he's the one that has the experience here and is, rather than me telling you and missing details and not giving him proper credit. So Dave wants to tell the audience what's been happening in the last few days. You called me, wrote me an email, said I got something pretty I need to talk to you the other night, and, we spoke. And he laid it on me, so I'm a let him lay it on you.
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Yeah, Roger. Thanks for letting me call you later in the evening. That's okay. I wasn't late. Hell, I usually go to bed
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about midnight, maybe eleven occasionally. So I I kinda am a night owl. My I used to have a chair, a rocking chair, Dave, that, old rocking chair about about as old as I am, that was broken. And my father had some woodworking experience when he was young, and he had braced it up and fixed it. And the reason it broke is because I wouldn't go to sleep. My mother literally broke that chair trying to rock me to sleep.
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Oh, that's great. That's a good story. So, well, you know I I follow your show. I can't always get on, Roger, but, some of the other things that I try and do is, put a plug in for the national status in in various places, different videos of different influencers. And, recently, I'll try and not,
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make this long story short. If there's anybody new here, excuse me, Dave, for stepping on you, nationalstatus.com, nationalstatus.info is the website that Dave and Kaye have put up. It's got all kinds of fancy stuff on it. So just in case, like Austin probably didn't know that, Dave and Kaye are some of the people that this information has inspired, and they wanted to go do something. So they set up this website, put a lot of hours in. It's very sophisticated. So I just wanted to give you that plug there, Dave, and let people understand the deal.
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Yeah. I appreciate it, Roger. And, so prior to your interview with Kevin Hoyt, I remember at one point you were gonna, interview I know you just did your interview, and by the way, we've got that posted on the site. But Cool. Prior to prior to this interview, you had tried to schedule it earlier. Well, at that time, now this has been a couple weeks ago, I went to his Rumble channel, and I was looking at some of the videos, his videos, And I put a plug in for the national status on, in the common area of one of his videos. And I mentioned, I think I mentioned you and, try not to get too extensive, but I wanted to put a plug in there, which I do in various places like I mentioned. But, and I put my phone number.
Well, shortly after that, I got a text, and the text said, essentially, this is Anne Vandersteel. And I saw your, comment on Kevin Hoyt's, channel. Could you give me a call? Well, I'm like, oh, this is BS. Right? I thought this is fake. And because, I do get fake texts and emails, and we all do, I guess. But, long story short, I kind I kind of ignored it, and I did write back and said, hey. Perhaps you can get on Roger's show, and I gave her a link to your show, how to get to your show, and that I kinda left it at that. Right? So, again, coming up to just the other day, I remembered that text conversation, and I remembered that you had just finally did your interview, with Kevin Hoyt. So I wrote back to that that phone number and mentioned that you you were gonna be doing your interview. And she wrote back or the person wrote back and said, can, you know, can we talk?
Here's my phone number. So I'm like, what the heck? So I called, and a woman answered and said, this is Ann Vandersteel. And I said, is this the Ann Vandersteel for real? And, it was, believe it or not. And it was on my birthday. In fact, my birthday is the seventeenth is when we talked, so I told her it was a good birth. That's my father's birthday. Yeah. That's pretty cool, Dave. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I told her it was a great birthday present, and we proceeded to talk for probably over an hour. And just a a really, nice lady.
I tried not to get too into the weeds with any of the national status because my goal at that point was to try and get an interview for you, Roger. So I wanted to, basically lead that up to you. You're the expert and and so forth. So I, talked about you and your background, and and she was very interested in having you on, and she actually gave dates, the sixth and the seventh. And I know right away, I reached out to you, and you you had, indicated if there was any way to do a two hour. So I asked her, and sure enough, she, you know, she could only say no. She said yes. So I'm gonna call it tentative, but we've got dates set for the sixth and the seventh.
And the details are yet to be determined as to how you're gonna get on her show and all that good stuff. And I was gonna perhaps call upon Paul and offer his expertise
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and I've been on Briteon before with Jim White. I'm not sure if Jim's on over there or not anymore. The guy from, Kalispell, actually, up around, Gary is. I think they use Zoom. I believe we used Zoom last time. And what we did, if I remember correctly, because a couple years ago I'm getting old. You know? I got a birthday tomorrow there, Dave, right there with you. And, happy birthday. So I think we did the whole hour, and then they edited it in a two hour long segment. So I believe that's the way Jim handle it. Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. So go ahead. She I mean, she'd meant she'd mentioned some names, you know, and I don't think she was really trying to name drop, but, you know, general Flynn. She knows Alex Jones. Yep. And we probably all know her name. But she's got a a huge following. Sure does. And so I think it's a it's, a great stepping stone for the national status message. And, by the way, I did watch your interview with Kevin Hoyt. It really that went really well, I thought. Yeah. I'm very comfortable. Kevin's a real nice guy. He picked it up real quick, I thought. Oh, yeah. He was really receptive, and, I think I think it clicked right away. And it it appeared he had a good understanding already of some of the concepts, but I think he was still under the influence of some of those myths, of course, but but I think it went really well. And, anyway, I I thought that was a great interview, Roger. So I was gonna send her a link. I went I I don't wanna overwhelm her yet, with text. I don't wanna think I'm stalking her or anything, but but, I'm gonna send her a link to that interview, with Kevin Hoyt. And if if that's if you think that's appropriate, might give her some foundation.
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That's a good interview. You know? Any of them are good. I mean, just on others like JB Wells took a different approach. There's a number of ways to approach this. Mark and I were talking about it the other night. And, maybe we should poll the audience right now, Mark, on that question we were talking about. Because I see Roger? Yo. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Julie, good morning.
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Good morning. I wanted to tell you and good morning, Dave. I wanted to say that, you know, Kevin Hoyt is very, very connected. He's he's in the general tent with Nino Rodriguez. I know Vandersteel very well. She is a national. I think she took either
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David Strait or Bobby Lawrence. But Of course. I think I think she was under Anna. Go ahead, though.
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No. She was at a well, she was at an event with either Bobby Lawrence or David Strait, and she was with and Bobby Lawrence. Yeah. Yeah. She was with them at an event, and she did did promote them. So she's the national, through them, in some way, shape, or form. But, you know, she's connected big time. She was with, the border control guy in a canoe down in Gary. Michael Young.
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Yep. I'm very familiar with very familiar with her background. So she's incredibly connected, and she's a really sharp, sharp gal. Okay?
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So I'm looking forward to talking with her. Very connected. So as well as Kevin. So I I'm hoping this leads to more and more interviews and more and more exposure, for everybody so that we can just get the word out. But, yeah, that's great news that, Anna or so sorry. That Ann Vandersteel posted in in the comment section there. That's that's awesome news.
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Well, I I wanted Dave to come on and tell that story just because I I continued to kinda prod you guys to spread the word. Well, there's Dave. He's in that situation. You just stick something in there and look who shows up. K? So, just to tell you, don't think I I'm not gonna take the time to do that because you never know. And the other thing you never know here is you never know who somebody knows. That's the old MLM thing. You know? Three clicks and you can get to anybody in the world. You know? That kind of thing. You never know who somebody knows. So, Dave, what I I you wrote I exchanged the email from one I saw this morning, and you said she would like to talk to me. Well, I would love to talk to her. Okay? But I can't Yeah. Unless we get on one of these comm apps because I can't call The US thanks to Bill Gates and his Microsoft's crew over there with what they did to Skype. And Yeah. Then magicJack gets overwhelmed. I still don't even know if mine's delivered yet even though they sent me a month and a half ago that had been shipped.
And so it's just one big screw up, and hopefully, that'll get straightened out here pretty quick. But, anyway, yeah, I'd love to talk to you.
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I I was just gonna say, Roger, we have some time till the sixth and seventh, you know, for you to to chat with her. And so I, you know, I'll just I'll stay on it,
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at my end. Yeah. Well And, but, yeah, she definitely wanted to touch base and chat with you before Well, well, I want you. You. I'd like to talk to her this afternoon, but I can't call her. I got her number. I can't call her. Okay? So please relate that to her, and I'm sure her technical guy knows what's what's app. If she doesn't know what's WhatsApp is, I'd be shocked. But we can talk that way. And I don't like Telegram because and I'll tell you why. Well, first of all, anybody can pick your your your profile up and and add to it. Okay? And, the with my eyes, it it I cannot enlarge it large enough to read without putting my face on the screen.
Okay? WhatsApp, I can. With Telegram, I cannot. So, that's a big problem for me. So I don't use it usually. It's cluttered. There's so much on there. Just clutter, clutter, clutter. So, anyway, that's where I stand on that. Tell her I would love to speak with her. Maybe we could facilitate it somehow. Okay. But from me, I can't call The US until, till we get this situation, Bill Gates, and his bunch created. Yeah. Hold it. Larry was trying to say something. What, Paul?
[00:18:05] Unknown:
Arrange a date and a time. Yeah. And I will find the platform where you guys can hook up. You could either use Zoom. You can use Jitsi. You could use Zoom. You can use Jetsey. You can use FCC. You can use Found. You can use Teams. You can use Telegram. You can use anything.
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Alright. But I can't dial her number and and get her to answer. Okay? So that's the problem. So if you relay that to her, Dave, what maybe I will. If you would give her my email and let see if she'd send me we can coordinate a time and a date then. And if we can do that, I think we can move forward with that. Okay? Yeah. So if you do that, I'd appreciate it. Just apologize to your hell. I don't have any control over this.
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Just just arrange a date and a time, and I will find a platform where you guys can connect,
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and I will remote into your PC and hook up. And I've I've watched a bunch of her, stuff over the years. She's got one of the one time I saw her, and she was talking about a Supreme Court case at the end of the seventeen hundreds, which said they can't take your rights away, but you can give them away. I unfortunately, I didn't write that case style down at the time, but I saw her do it. So she understands a lot about being a national. Don't forget, she's the one that generally said general Flynn and all that. She's pretty tight with Todd Callender too.
And, I can't wait to tell her. You know? I said, look. I I had two hours on the phone with Todd Callender, and he just flat didn't get it. I I did the very best I could at explaining it, but he was so green to this. And what does everybody always fall back on? Oh, yeah. We know about that national stuff. Well, you think you do, but you don't. Okay? You have no idea how deep it goes and the effects of it, but you may know on the surface. But, yes, I'm looking forward to talking with her and explaining this to her and letting her really see the impact of this. The fact that this is the root of all of their power, and she does have incredible connections. She's been on she's hosted, with Michael Yohn and them, Alex's show before and stuff like that. I don't know. She's got a ton of connections, and she's a kind of pivot person we need right here. We get a pivot person like that that, you know, go into all these shows and say, hey. You need to listen to this guy, get him on, you know. And and we're a lot further ahead than we were before. So that's kind of where it stands at this point. I wanted Dave to come on and, and give that announcement. It's pretty exciting. I'm looking forward to meeting her. She's very sharp gal and, and broadening her horizons a little bit from some of the stuff she's been told that may or may not be true because I don't know of what she knows. Now Larry was trying to say something a minute ago. Hold on. Let's get Larry. People wanna interrupt you. Go ahead, Larry.
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Yeah. So, about two years ago, is when I was listening to Dan Vandersteel give speeches and the terminology she would always use is she's an American state national. And, if if she's a student of Bobby Lawrence, then that might be a bad thing because Bobby Lawrence, the last time I listened to some of his videos, was also two years ago. And the last video I listened to, he was explaining how he was, drafting his paperwork to expatriate from The United States. Yeah. And then he's going to repatriate, and so that's not a a really good thing.
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Well, they they just none of them really know what they're dealing with. Everybody's got some piece of the puzzle. K? But nobody's got the complete one, at least in this group. These guys, Bobby Lawrence, David Strait, Annabon Wright, who I don't know if you're listening. The other day, we found out. While we may start getting some AVR, refugees. She got in a little tussle, her and her husband with the Internal Revenue Service and got fined 1,200,000.0 and none of her fancy Patriot stuff even slowed them down. Well, I refuse to contract. Hey, Anna. How many times did you answer those two questions? Yes. And sign something. You'd agreed to contract your whole life. And they don't know this stuff. So they take dots that appear to connect, and they connect them. And then from then on, they're teaching people. And just like Brent was talking about yesterday, man, when you get the first impression from somebody, it's almost impossible to get that crap out of your mind.
I've been fighting it for fourteen years. K? So I I understand what's going on, and hopefully, we'll get a chance and just say, Anne, look. I what I'd like for you to do is just wipe your mind clean of all that stuff. Wipe clean. Sit down and let me let me build the foundation for you, and then we can build a dwelling on top of that, and we can all live free in there.
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Okay. Who's the conversation? I'll I'll yeah. Go ahead. There's there's there's Dave in the thumb, but I've got a quick comment. Can I go first, Dave? Of course. I thought alright. Thank you.
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He's the wizard. Come on. He goes first.
[00:23:13] Unknown:
Okay. We're going to probably be seeing an awful lot of people from Anavon rights because, who in their right mind could possibly believe that anything that Anavon is doing or saying is going to work for them if it doesn't even work for her? You know? I think the floodgates are about to open.
[00:23:35] Unknown:
Well, could be. Hopefully, some of these people that I and whether it's intentional or not, I don't know. I'd like to think it's not. But she's way out on the limb. Okay? She you know, I I have a personal I got the pope's private phone line. I'm in touch with the mothership above. I mean, come on, folks. Come on. Okay? Alright. Who who was, trying to say something there?
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Hey, Roger. I just kinda wanted to follow-up with you know, when I was on the phone with her, she jumped on to nationalstatus.com, and I was I was pointing out the different areas of the site. Well, interestingly, she zeroed in on the IRS area, and, and she she was fascinated. I and she said, oh, you've got the receipts because in the IRS section, if you know we I've posted a lot of the documents that we used to address the IRS and, redacted some of that, of course. And one of them I showed her was the actual treasury check that I received on my withhold you know, when they sent my withholdings back. Right. For 2023, and she would just bust it out like, oh man, you've got the receipts.
And she made a comment like, I haven't seen anybody get anything back like this. And that kind of surprised me because we we've been having, I think, and, Mark could speak to this, there's we've been having success other than maybe the additional couple of years, you know, going three years back. But, so I don't wanna I just wanna give you a heads up on that, that she kind of, zeroed in on that. And it may be because of, you know, the the trouble that her counterpart,
[00:25:24] Unknown:
got in recently. You know? Uh-huh. Well, you could also tell her if she'd like to come on the show. I'd be happy to do it publicly right here, and she'd love to meet the rest of our people and hear their stories and stuff like that. That's another option. Okay? I don't know what her mornings are like or where she is, but I know she's a busy gal. She's quite articulate. She's very lovely. She's really obviously intelligent. And, I I look forward to meeting her, Dave, and I thank you for taking a minute to stick up, some some information in a in a comment section. And lo and behold, look who shows up. I mean, you folks, you never know. But if you don't make the effort, you will never know.
That's what I know. Okay. Yep. Now, Dave, you got anything else to add? I'm gonna get you a second mark. Anybody anything else to add, Dave? No. I'm just really excited, and I'm kinda holding back a little bit of getting too excited, you know. Yeah. I don't there yet. I don't you know? And that's the thing I've learned over the years, like Jeff Rents and these other things. Don't get your hopes up because you never know. Alright? Or Mike Brown over there on Sons of Liberty or whatever it is. And he goes off with Paymon Pentahayo or whatever his his name is because he gets a kickback on everything. You know? So I I alright. He's got nine kids. Things are tough. Okay? I understand.
But, anyway, some people get it. Some people don't. I don't have the equation. All I know is to put the information in front of people and see if they react. And if they do, great, I'll grab them and hug them and say, listen. You wanna know more? And if they don't, I'll say, like these people down here, sayonara, we'll, cross paths with you at the mall or something. You know? Good luck. Sforte. Some will. Some won't. Some won't. So what? Next. I came from Newscaven, by the way, from some guys down in South Florida. Okay. Mark Arga. Good morning, sir. Hope your dad's doing better.
[00:27:24] Unknown:
Doing better. Nothing life threatening, but just got sick real quick and, had kinda lost his his strength. And so we now we didn't wanna take any chances. And I just went ahead and had the ambulance pick him up. So Yeah. But, anyway, they're gonna they're probably gonna release him the first part of next week, and, they want to put him in rehab to kind of build his muscle strength back up a little bit, see what's going on. Okay. But,
[00:27:57] Unknown:
okay. I know. He's doing okay. I know you got your hands full with that stuff. Both your mom and your dad are getting elderly, and they're getting less and less capable of doing the things that we do individually. Right. It it puts the burden right on you, and I understand it and so does everybody else, especially people that have been through that situation. It's a duty, and God bless you for doing it. K?
[00:28:20] Unknown:
Well, thank you. I appreciate it. It's it's it's a lot, I tell you. And, you know, I had to apologize for to people who, you know, I thought I could help them more with some of, like, the tax return stuff. But I I just, you know, all I can do now is point you in the right direction. Yeah. You know, I can do that. But as far as me doing the heavy lifting, you're gonna have to do that on your own. Yeah. And you need to do that on your own anyway. You need to at least learn it so you do not always dependent upon somebody else. Very true.
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Just like the trust information. So, did you have anything to add to all this? Well, I know kinda what your thoughts are.
[00:29:03] Unknown:
Well, you know, as far as, you know, being a national, it made me think of that guy on YouTube. You mean for forty years, I could have been doing this? Ain't no way. If you've never seen the forty year guys, he's pretty hysterical. I haven't seen it. He's got like I think over a million
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but, he starts every video out. You mean for forty years I could have been doing, whatever it is? And he says, there ain't no way. So, you mean for forty years I could have been a national? Ain't no way. So it made me think of people who are familiar with the national status but hadn't just put all the pieces together yet. So I'm just telling you folks, this is so liberating and empowering. The more you wrap your mind around being a national, it's amazing. Now a lot of you, it may not feel very different other than maybe not filling out tax returns. But there's other people. We're going to have somebody on here really soon that has an amazing story to tell you that is it's bigger than Sarah in Colorado with the child protective services. I'll put it that way.
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let me go this way. This person initially ended up getting an attorney. And now the attorney is shaking their head going, how'd you do that? Because they're using Rogers materials. And with the help of a few other people on the side, it it's I I think you're gonna be blown away. And you're talking about bringing receipts? Yeah. They're gonna bring some receipts. So I've been riding shotgun on it and just kind of you know, pointing them in the right way, help with a little bit of wording here and there. And so it's, they did their due diligence. They studied.
They've been studying their materials. So it's, anyway, I'm excited. I can't wait for them. We'll probably within the next two, three weeks that should come about. Good news. And they're they're excited to be on your show, Roger, and share their story. Well, I can't wait to hear it. I know a little bit about it, of course. I'm waiting for them to tell it like Dave here.
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Now and and for new people, you see, Mark hit a really important point there. He said, well, nothing really changes except you don't file tax returns. K. Well, that's right. The world's not gonna change. It may not change ever, but it sure ain't gonna change yet. We may have some influence on this percentage of that down the line, but, generally, the world hates truth. Boy, have I found that out recently. Okay? And Yeah. So here's the deal. If you wanna play a paper filing game, well, I mean, I I can't stop you from doing it. But if you truly wanna be free, you're not free until you can defend your position, till you have enough knowledge and understanding. As remember, the Bible says above all, seek understanding.
Until you've got enough understanding to be able to defend your position if it's challenged, like we had earlier this week with, Mary Anne and her bluff letter and, just panicking on a Sunday. Please, can we talk tonight? You got no. We can't. You got ninety days. Calm down. K? But that's the way people react to this. That's how scared they are, and that's how deeply, conditioned they they've been. But until you can defend your position and teach other people, you're really not free. If if you've gotta come run into somebody on some alright. The bluff letters. But if you know your stuff, you can read right through it. You know what I teach you? It says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, not are.
It's not a yes. You're this because you were born here. No. It's not. It's a two step solution. I've got to do something to trigger that second clause, that second part of the test. And and if there's some that are and subject, there's obviously some that are and not. Okay? So, that's the thing, and I I just it upsets me to an extent when people don't wanna learn the information. You wanna be free, but you don't wanna learn how to be free or why? You know? Can I quote Thomas Jefferson? Those who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be. That's true. Okay? That's why I don't charge you. Because if people pay you, then they think you've done everything.
They paid you for it, so they're absolved to the situation. They don't know what happens. They can't explain it to other people. Say, hey, man. I got out of the taxes. And why how'd you do that? I paid this guy. But they don't know crap. Okay? So again, that is the road to ignorance right there. What my goal is when I started this is to affect change. We can affect change unless people know what has happened and why they can get out of it and where all the gremlins are in the wood pile. Okay? So that's just the way it is. I'm sorry. You're gonna have to pay something.
I don't charge you Federal Reserve Babble Bucks because you're gonna have to pay me and pay yourself by learning the damn information. So that's just what what I I tried to insist on it. K? But some of you are real stubborn and you you whatever. You don't wanna go back and do that. Oh, I'm out of that. It's alright. No. It's not. We're never gonna affect change. We're not in the condition we're in because of a lack of people filing paperwork. We're there because of a lack of education and understanding. We got bamboozled. By the way, Larry, when confronting Brent yesterday on that, just like I told you, the reason I don't do that anymore is because I pretty well understand Brent's position.
Brent cannot admit first of all, he can't think like our enemies do. He's too embedded in the legal stuff. And he always come back, well that's fraud. Well, yeah, it's fraud, but you were agreed to it. You answered those two questions yes. Just like everybody else here. Okay? So Brent cannot get over the fact that old scratch tricked him. That's it. And he's technically right. Yes. I'm born. I'm born free. Well, you are until your feet get out of the birth canal, then you're born, then you're on the fourteenth amendment. And then every time they ask your whole adult life when you went in the navy and everything else, that you're a citizen of The United States and you didn't catch it. Scratch tricked you. But own up to it, but I'm not gonna argue about it with him anymore.
I told you yesterday, you can go back in the archives to about the twelve twelve years back. And for five years, almost every Friday, Daryl and Chris and I would jump and pile on Brent. Go listen to it. So I've I've learned not to do that anymore. I accept his position. He's incorrect. But I think what I said yesterday, Brent cannot think like our enemies think. If you can't think like our enemies think, you're gonna have a hard time getting your arms around this. Okay? And so when I had that conversation with Brent years ago, I said, Brent, you got to learn how they think. He goes, I don't want them. I don't wanna think like them.
And I said, you don't have to think like them. You have to know how they think. Okay? So, Larry, just to catch you up on that and the rest of the audience, when Brent comes out and says stupid stuff about what we're doing here, just let it ride. Okay?
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Capisce?
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Roger? Yes.
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Yeah. I'm not being confrontational with him or you, and I'm not trying to put you guys at odds. I understand both of your positions, and I just figure it's a good thing to talk about. So maybe something, because you're not too old to learn something. Maybe something would be triggered
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in Brent's mind. But this has all been covered, Larry, miles back. Okay? If it's any justification or gratification for you, I know his wife has filed an affidavit and I know Francine has filed an affidavit. And I believe, even though Brent's never told me directly, that he has too. Okay? He just doesn't understand it and he he can't think. He's so legalistic and inaccurate thinking that he cannot get evidently his arms around what they've done here. Okay? So that's all I know. I'm tickled to death to have him on board. I'm not gonna sit there and argue the fine points with him. Let him have his own opinion.
And, that's the way it is. Okay? So that's what I wanted to bring across to you in the audience. Alright? We're damn lucky to have the relationship with Brent we've got. He cherishes this platform. You know why, Larry? He gets more response from this platform than any place else he appears. That's
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why. Okay?
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Alright. Now anything else on the Vandersteel stuff?
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Well, we really need to have a website updated and ready for a lot of people to hit hit it. So
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It would be nice if we can coordinate that and put it together. If we've got several people that have that kind of experience and said they wanna do that, Try and see if we can get several I don't know if there's too many cooks in the kitchen there or not. I don't know, Mark. Okay? But we'll put that out there. What we need to do hold on a second, Larry, please. What we need to do above all is get the book back available somehow. It doesn't necessarily have to be on Amazon to me. I know it's really important to you. I hate Jeff Bezos and Amazon screws everybody. There's a lot of authors that won't put their books on there. K? So, I don't mind putting it on there. Alright? But let's get the important base things done first. First thing to do is get the book available. Then we can see if we can work on the website. This one will have to do if that's what we got. And it it and it's only by a matter of necessity that this one got put up. Thanks to Paul. Okay? I stayed up after that Sarah Westall interview.
I got so many responses on that asking for information. I stayed up an entire night answering those emails one by one, and that's where we cooked up with Paul. He says, hell, let me throw you up a website here. And then we've been building on that. So that's where that came from. It wasn't planned out. It wasn't schemed out. It wasn't really designed. It was a matter of necessity thrown up there. And we all get so busy in everything we're doing. It just haven't hasn't gotten up over to a new website. We've been talking about it for a while. It's not new news. Hopefully, this will be motivation to get it done. Okay?
Right. Remember remember, we have no budget here. I don't charge you guys anything. I don't sell commercials for you. I don't sell your ears. This is a shoestring deal that's been done on a shoestring since I started it. And I'm kinda proud of that, actually. K? Every web designer I've ever had any contact with was screw stuck it right up my bar barracks bag. Okay? They've stolen from me. They've lied to me. They just all this stuff. I'm just sick of it. Sorry. Alright. Now anybody Larry, you got something to say? Somebody was trying to say something there a minute ago.
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No. It wasn't me.
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I was just
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commenting about, you know, how to share, and this is for everybody, you know, how do you share the ideal of being a national? And what has worked really great for me and I can get to the nitty gritty real quick is that, you know, I just asked them, did you know prior to the Civil War there was no such thing as a U. S. Citizen? They were state citizens and their state provided them protection. And or they were a citizen of you know, normally the citizen of the state they were born or if they moved to a different state and they had a permanent home in a different state, they were citizen of that state. Or or if they came to the It wasn't naturalized. They naturalized into a state.
Right. Right. And then after the Civil War and the Reconstruction Acts and then the implementing of the thirteenth Amendment and the fourteenth Amendment, the fourteenth Amendment, and this is well stated, well noted, that because the states, some states, wouldn't give blacks citizenship rights, then they become a US citizen and were covered under civil rights. Not constitutional rights, civil rights. And then that basically got built into where everybody now becomes a quote US citizen and everybody's roped in and that's through the Immigration and Naturalization Act 1940.
So that little short clip right there, that generally gets people wandering, you know. And now it's like, okay all we're doing is we're no longer volunteering to be a fourteenth Amendment citizen, we're just changing our status to that of a nationals. The state citizens become nationals. And that's all we're doing. We're pledging our allegiance to the state and not The United States. And there you have it in the definitions of eight USC 11 o one paragraph a, paragraph one twenty one, I believe it is, or eight twenty one.
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And and really, once you get down the road and get your arms around this, it's ridiculously simple. But not the way they've got it set up and how they've conditioned your mind. And that's why I started coming with that first so that my you know, like I said, there's a bunch of different ways to approach this. I've been doing it for, well, in some way, shape, or form for thirty three years, okay, this month. And, so I I I know that, but I I seized on the thing with, badass uncle Sam that I've started lately describing, you know, how they've enslaved you in your mind first so that because that's a valuable tool. It's something you're gonna wanna use as a way you get your sanity back is to undo the opposite definitions of those words.
Then when you see what they've done to you, it's not as topsy-turvy upside down. They got a little better grasp of it. So that's the only reason I've done that here as of late. Seems to work pretty good. Kevin got it real quick. So anyway, we'll we'll just go ahead and see and, it's we're we're doing I would encourage you to flip that around. Well, I've done that before all these years, Mark. I always used to approach it like that.
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Oh, okay. Well, I know just I'm one on one with people. Like, I I get my quickest moments when people realize that, you know, it's like, oh, I never thought about that. You know? Mhmm. And then you can show them how they got tricked into it. You know? I mean, just like, oh. So Well, well So anyway, yeah. Whatever you think whatever you think gets the most response, you know. Well, see, I go through I know we got limited
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I go through that I know we got limited time. Right. And and I go through that dialectical stuff. And then what's first thing I do? Go to the end game. Here's these two questions. Why'd you answer this? Yeah. It's because of this that I just showed you. That's why you answered those two questions. Yes. And signed something Yeah. And agreed with the servitude. So there there's a method to my madness. You know? If I find a better way or we're gonna change it, I'll change it. I don't care. I've done it a bunch of different way. I particularly like the matrix approach that we did on John b Wells. And, man, he got it quick. Okay? He's quick understudy, John b.
And and who better to ask about the matrix than Morpheus. Right? Yeah. Okay. What did Morpheus say? You can't see it. You can't touch it, but you can feel it. Isn't that true? Yeah. It's very true. You bet your ass it's true. Okay. And then was another one he says, it's like a splinter in your mind. Well, that's the opposite definition of the equivocations. And what's the third thing he says that's incredibly accurate? You were born into it. Yep. That's a wonderful approach. Did you take each one of those three things and explain them and bam, John b had it like like a, you know, like a marlin on a ballyhoo. Okay?
Yeah. So Yeah. Anyway, that's where we are. So enough of that. At this point, unless somebody's got something please to come forward with.
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Yeah. Especially if you're a new, you know, a new listener and and maybe you work during the week and you can't answer a question. You got a burning question about being a national. Come on. We'll we're happy to take your questions. Come jump on the the the there's almost always on the FCC somebody on that platform.
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Maybe not as much as it used to be. They used to stay on there till the damn middle of the night. Okay? But, generally, if you've got just a a itch you can't scratch, that's the place to get it scratched. Now before we run out of time, because we do have one of those persons, I believe, here that works during the week and is, with us. He started last Saturday. Mark, were you here when Austin was was here last Saturday? I don't remember if you were. Yeah. I caught I caught a little bit of Austin. He was the Oh, yeah. You had to leave her. Our gold and silver dealer. Right? Right. And I think I heard the the drums and the smoke and the signals said that he was gonna be back today. So Austin, are you with us, buddy?
Oh, Austin.
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Smoke signals.
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Calling Austin. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Well, Julie, evidently, Austin, something must
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come up. Yeah. The drums will be able to hear on this show, but the smoke signals not so much.
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Okay. Sorry. Yes. Roger? Yes. Julie. He texted me
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he texted me yesterday, and he said he's gonna be on. But when he's on, I believe he does work on Saturdays too, so he might be on a call.
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But I know that he had said he was gonna be on today, so he just might be on mute right now. Okay. Well, Austin, if you're working, when you get, finished with whatever you're doing, come back on and say, hey. This is Austin. I've got a couple of questions or whatever. If for some reason you can't show up, we'll look for you next week. Yes. Is that Austin?
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No. It's Samuel Wolf. Okay. Hey, Samuel. You know, back in the day back in the day, I was questioning Brent's motives regarding the fourteenth amendment as much as the other guys were. And yesterday, I was questioning his motives on his choice of Bibles, and I feel he's just as wrong about the fourteenth amendment as he is about the, NIV.
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Well, it may be. Well, I I wouldn't, yeah, I don't wouldn't do spit across street to get the NIV. So, anyway, everybody's able
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everybody's able to see that video I sent? I haven't watched the no. You're I saw part of it. Well, the comment was you it wasn't available in Ecuador. Is that what you were saying?
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Sent me, it said it wasn't available in in your country. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's probably because it's so Jewish or Jesuit powered. I mean, this this video, anyone along these lines, now they've had to change the name of the video to keep getting it out. So I sent you another one under a different name, and the format's a little different, but the message is pretty much the same. And the the original name of that on the parable channel was the great Bible hopes of 1881. And let me tell you, all of our so called Christians here in Europe and in The United States sold us out to the Catholic church. And it's quite obvious if you watch that video that all these new, so called translations, which I wouldn't even call them, are forgeries based on Westcott and Hort.
And James Ferrer challenged them as well
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in that case. About Westcott and Hort, for what I remember about them from the pastor Pete series was that they if I remember right, they translated the Bible into English or something. And even after they were dead, they dug up their graves and burned their bones.
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No. No. No. No. These guys are in the eighteen eighties.
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Well, this is what these guys were being I I I
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tense posing as posing as protestants, and they were really, didn't they didn't have the philosophy of protestants at all in mind, and they wanted to destroy the inerrancy of the Bible. That's what they were up to. And they used Vaticanus, which was recently found, and Sinaiticus as their new basis for writing a new Bible and throwing into the half the the the the trash heap of history, the King James version, that was their goal.
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That's what they exceeded in. But a lot of people followed them. Oh, not they didn't do too well because there are a lot of people that say it's a King James only is the only thing they want. This is why I like for our Fenton. But we mentioned it briefly at the end of the show yesterday. You can find it online. You can download the whole thing. For our Fenton, change the chapters in the bible a little bit, but it was his lifetime work. He was an atheist when he got to Oxford, and then he thought that the English empire was losing all of its impact because of the antiquated language in the King James.
And so he spent his whole lifetime upon founding five successful businesses on translating from the Greek the the Bible. Now he went to this extent. This is in the eighteen eighties. Okay? At about the same time frame you're talking about, Samuel. He worked on it over fifty years. And he every time he came to a word that he didn't know the translation of, he would write to every Greek scholar in the world, and he would not proceed until he got every letter back from them. And every time when I was, in James Brueggemann's flock, they're in Atlanta for ten years or more, and James is like Brent, done a little study in Greek and Hebrew and all that stuff. And in the middle of a sermon, I can I can give you a specific example?
What's the trash dump outside of, Jerusalem? Gehenna? I think. Yeah. Okay. That and that's translated as hell. Okay? Gehenna, a trash dump outside of Jerusalem. But every time there was a question on a word and would go, well, let's see this or this or this. Every time the was right. Every time. No exceptions. It's very easy to read. It's very complete. It's none of these damn shenanigans that, that the the Samuel's referring to. It's a very fine Bible. Just not very many people know about it.
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K? Go read Well, Roger, I sent you a a second iteration of that. I hope you can open that one. But, you you know, when when you ask, what what what's so frustrating with Brent is you ask him a simple question, and fifteen minutes later, he hasn't answered it. I understand. And I try to be respectful, but that's tough sometimes. Yep. I understand. Because it's pretty much a yes or no question. Well, you've got a lot to say. Well,
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every yes or no questions usually got an explanation around it. K?
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Well,
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yeah. But he never gets to it. And when he wants to demur, he's quite skilled at it is all I'm saying. Well, I Bless his heart. I He's got a he's got an incredible amount of knowledge. None of us can approach even the amount of knowledge Brent's got. And he's got his own ways and his own views, and I gotta respect those. And, just tickled with that to have him on every Friday. Okay?
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Enough said it. Samuel? People just wanna look for that for what happened there, I would I would appreciate if they would looked at the great Bible hopes of 1881 and what happened, really happened.
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Paul? Samuel. Go ahead, Paul. Did you send me the link to that or just to Raj?
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I may have. The the most confusing thing about this right now, Paul, is I couldn't find a copy of it because I was looking under the title of the great Bible hoax of 1881, which is what it used to be called. They have changed the names of it, and I think it's for the reason, like me sending Roger a copy, and that country wouldn't accept it. I think that's why they changed the names, and they've changed the internals of it a little bit so that it's not exactly the same thing with a new name. I think they did that to get around censorship. But, anyways, it's it's it's done by Christopher Pinto, and it's on the parable channel.
And I think you'll get close to it if you still use the old title of the the great bible hoax of 1881.
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Okay.
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Well But both of these, they've proven that piece that the Vaticanus and Atticus aren't ancient, yet they're trying to put them back to the fourth century and stuff like that. And it's just a bunch of Catholic undermining of the Protestant Reformation, and that was in the hands of the Jesuits. And these translations are loaded with help from the Jesuits. If you go through this dialogue that they're they're giving you, it's pretty hard to, to not see what's going on here.
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Well, the Jesuits were founded to fight the Protestant rev revolution, I'll put it.
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Reformation. Exactly. That's the reason for the order to be to to be even be put into existence. And the first, Jesuit was a Jew.
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Saint Thomas Iglesias or something? Iglesias something?
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No. He was a a Spanish show soldier first. What's his name? I'm sorry. I'm blanking on him. Okay.
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Anyway, his whole history, I'm not a big fan of the Catholic church either. So, you know, but we've got nice Catholics. There's some good Catholics out there that for you know, it's like they were born and raised in it. That's pretty much where they're gonna go. Other people may wanna leave the Catholic church or whatever. I was, listening to Bert. Mur sent me a pretty interesting interview between Candace Owens and e Michael Jones yesterday. And e Michael keeps going on about how the Protestants are so corrupt, and it was a land grab deal. It was the aristocracy wanting the Catholic church's properties. He didn't wanna say anything about all the crap the Catholics were doing, of course. You know, we had to pay to get graces and all that crap. I forget what it's called.
But his thing is, Protestantism is waning out and that it's white boys who eat pork and don't go to church anymore. That's the Michael Jones' exact description. Well, why would we go to church when they've been totally damn influenced by this Scofield Bible crap? Well, we got now fag pastors, you know, all this other stuff, these blatant atrocities. Why the hell would I go to a church? Pardon me? Yeah. What about going to a Catholic church where they perform all this damn pedophilia and stuff all over the world for God knows how many centuries? Or the or or or how's the nunnery? We're in Europe where they found hundreds of children's bodies buried there? What about that?
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Roger, when when Napoleon's generals took the pope into custody, they found that the inquisition was still going on. They had furnaces underneath the Vatican burning Protestants to death and walling them in alive. This was still going on during the time of Napoleon. They just changed their tack to being trying to make us, a part of their system and be doing it with sneakier tactics like the, Jesuits came up. That's Well, there are no doubt about that. I didn't know Napoleon captured the pope. I never heard that before. Yep.
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When did that happen? I know he went to Egypt. I didn't know he went into Italy and captured the Pope. Where are you getting that?
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Oh, he did. He took a lot of records too, and they after Napoleon fell, they forced the the the Vatican forced, the the French government to send the records back. He took a lot of stuff from there
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to try to See, I've never heard who they were. I've never heard Yeah. That Napoleon went to Rome and captured the pope. Never. First time ever in my entire life.
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Yeah. I think his general's first name was Gabriel. But Yeah. I forget his name.
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Okay. Well, I know he went to Egypt, and one of the reasons that he went to Egypt, you know why? He wanted to export the Jews of France to to l over there. He was looking for a place to put them.
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Well, actually, he gave the Jews a lot of freedoms that, was probably a mistake.
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It's always a mistake. Yeah. I mean, this is the scourge of mankind is the Jews. And so then it way predates the Zionist folks. We're talking back where you Yeah. And they got us in that term, which is bullshit too. But Yeah. With Cicero. Cicero. We got, Martin Luther's take on it the other day. This is ancient people. You know, I can when when I was a kid going to vacation bible school, if that whatever, ten, twelve years ago or something old years old, I why are these people so hated? They've been hated since the dawn of history, for god's sakes, because of their cliquishness, because of the all the crap they do.
And still, it's just gotten worse now. So maybe with the maybe with miss Vandersteel's help, we can pivot this to a few big platforms and turn the tables on them a little bit. Yuck yuck. No pun intended. Turn the tables on the money changers a little bit with their fraud and how they come up with their money. Because I guarantee you, Ann Vandersteel doesn't know that as a citizen of The United States, you're collateral for the whole bottom of the damn financial system. I guarantee you, she doesn't know that. Okay? So, yes, they remember and Anna, our our our Annie, our little sweetheart from Southern California, retired nurse, who paid out of her own pocket to go to all those, Awaken America tours, Went to the one down in Miami. Had her own folder printed up. Had her own little booth. We've gotten a couple of students from those efforts. Well, she saw Michael Flynn. She went up to Mackle Flynn. Said, here, I got some information on National. And he goes, well, we know all about that. Well, General Flynn, you don't know all about that, but maybe maybe here in the future you'll learn. K? And and realize the importance of what we've got here. That's it. They don't know the importance of what we've got here. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. The other thing that, you know, I wanted you to say that you might when you win, I don't think it's an if. I think it's when you get on our show. It's that, you know, those people were all taught. And even Brent Johnson teaches you to give up your social Security number. Correct. Well, you know, gave up all those, Social Security benefits that you paid in that you're that you're entitled to. They won't accept it. And you can still get them under our national and they don't know this. And so I think that's a great, bonus point to bring up and you know she has Brent Johnson on her show all the time and he's the one who does the common law trust and tells you wrong information like you cannot be your own grantor and your own trustee and Mark has shown case law after case law after case law disproving this on his show and I was thinking, you know what, maybe we ought to get Mark on Kevin Hoyt's show and get Mark on on the Van der Steel show too, and get the word out there from not only becoming free, but also state planning purposes, how to protect your wealth.
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Well, we don't know where the relationship's gonna go. We don't know how receptive she's gonna be to information countering people like Brent Johnson and his crap and the other crap she's been exposed to. We'll see. She might not even like me. Okay?
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Oh, she'll love you. I know Anne Vandersteel. She will love you, Roger.
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Well, anyway, we'll see where it goes. I never know. I try not to have expectations. They've been dashed two hours on Jeff Rent's nightly show and not one person from that. Not one person grabbed onto the message. I just I I can't have expectations anymore because I always get dashed. All I knew is to just over and over and over again, find people who wanna listen and tell them. That's all I know. K? Oh, yeah. We we get Austin yet? Austin, you join us yet? Okay. Well, Austin may not show up today, Dave.
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How you doing?
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I'm alright.
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Good. You know, I I don't listen to Rents much. I just got him on this, this platform on the telephone, you know, since you were on there. And, I'd heard him a couple times, you know, on a show or something. I can't remember where. But he sounds like a fatalist to me. Like, they're oh, we're it's over. We're done. We That's exactly correct. Nothing we can do. You know? That's exactly correct. And that's what his listeners all of his listeners are just like him.
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That's why they're not coming here. There's, like, oh, that ain't gonna work. We can't Well, that very well may be. There he he does so much woo woo stuff, you know, all the UFO stuff, and he's got some real cutting edge scientific stuff. He's got some basis. But, you know, the if there's one common trait that I've found here, it's people's spirituality. If you've got a spiritual gene, then this will has a better chance of resonating with you. Not a total chance, but a better chance. And even the people that are not spiritual at the time, certainly not religious, but not spiritual, will come to a spirituality through this information because you can't trace any of this back that doesn't go back to the Bible and it doesn't go back to the Jews.
One or the other. I've been doing it for thirty three years. Everything I've ever traced goes right back to the Bible and right back to the Jews. And boy, are they on the run all of a sudden? They got big problems. K? So let's just hope they continue to build. There's all kinds of TV shows, man. I see, Harrison and Owen taking a whole hour or more to talk about it. Okay? So it's getting on other platforms too. It's getting to be quite topical and conversational. And the more that it does, the more it paints these people into a corner. What a stroke of genius Satan did with dispensationalism and the Scofield Bible.
Started at the same time, the Russian Civil War. And all these years later, look how that has manifested. You you you those people that are bought into that rapture crap, there ain't no amount of facts you can put in front of them that's gonna change their mind. None. Dave.
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Yeah. Breaking news. Donald Trump filed a $10,000,000,000, defamation lawsuit against Rupert Murdoch and some newspaper or something that he's running. And Wonderful. And, the Wall Street Journal. Said we're gonna I guess there was a letter, some letter about this, that Trump wrote to Epstein on his fiftieth birthday in o three. It's
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it's fake. Anyway, Trump
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the Murdoch people said they're gonna defend it vigorously because they said it's, legit. Anyway, just wanted to put that out there. It's not legit, and they've salted
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the the, file with all these kind of things like that. That's why Raskin is coming out and said, well, we demand openness to the file on all the new stuff. They don't wanna mess with the old stuff, just the new stuff that they planted in there. Yeah. And and evidently, that's what happened and why Trump got so pissed off, last week on Monday because, that's what they've been doing to him the whole time. It's just another Russian hoax deal. Okay? So May I what appears coming out. Also, Julie, all of your all of your, sensationalism and stuff, do you know about the genius act that he signed yesterday? Do you know about that?
Roger, I know about all those acts. I've read them all. I've read them all. Well, now I I ask you I ask you a specific question. Do you understand what was in the genius act? Yes. I do. You do? That there the law is nobody can have a central bank currency in The United States Of America forevermore.
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That's what it said. And you and I have been at and you and I have been at odds about this a million times, Roger. I'm gonna tell you, we don't have central banks. We have Federal Reserve Banks, and there is a drastic difference between the way they were set up. That's a central bank. The Federal Reserve Bank is a central bank, Julie. K. Let me finish, please. We're rolling out stable coin. They're the same thing as a central bank digital currency. They are programmed. They are available. They are trackable. They are traceable. You can program them to expire. You can program stablecoins so that they don't work on certain purchase purchases.
You can program them so they don't work at all if you don't have your vaccine mandate. I know a lot about the genius bill, and I know a lot about the told us about the WHO yesterday, by the way. I know. I get it.
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Well, I don't know that you do. Roger.
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Yeah. I do. It doesn't matter about the WHO. The who doesn't matter, Roger. We have all of these regulations about vaccine mandates are down. Regulations.
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State level. Regulation. They have to enforce it. They have to they Julie, they have to enforce it regulatorily. You just said it. We don't have that attachment.
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We just potentially have to do
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it. I love you, but you're always so sensationalist. You just one of these things come by and you just grab it and blow up the hell up.
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Well, I'm I've read the, better, the big betrayal bill and the genius act, and I know where this is all going into the digital financial I heard a guy that's id.me and the I heard a guy, for an hour and a over an hour on Alex that's intimately familiar with this from its origins in the first Trump administration,
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and he doesn't want this stuff either. And that bill has been working since he was in office the first time.
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Okay. Well, Roger, you and I can be you and I can just agree to disagree, and I yield. I love you too. Alright. Who else is trying to say something there? Is that Samuel again? Roger, I just wanted to am I on? Yes. Go on. I'm muted. No. You're Iman.
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I, I just wanted to add to Rupert Murdoch. In that in one of those pieces, I don't know which one because the format is a little different in in in in every one of them. They're three hours long. So, anyway, Rupert Murdoch owns the publishing companies that publish all these new Bibles. He also is an honorary, like Jesuit and a Catholic church member in that regard. And he also publishes through another company, the satanic bible. So that's mister Murdoch for you. One of those camels that can't get through the eye of the needle.
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In my opinion. Not a not a very good guy. I I don't think anybody disagree with you.
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K? Yeah. I love it that Trump's involved in building that. Level too. It's at a spiritual level is all my point was really. He's not just a financial guy. Okay. Well, I don't think anybody disagree with you.
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Yes, Julie.
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No. It's Sherry. Sherry, where have you been? Have you heard about the report, that, Tulsi
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Gabbard put out yesterday? I heard something about Tulsi. They got her sedan marginalized, but, yes, I did hear something. I don't quite remember what it was.
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Treason against, the country for usurping the power of the people regarding interference with the twenty sixteen election by the, CIA and cabinet members.
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2016 or 2020?
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2016 under Obama and his cabinet members. Okay.
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So Alright. Well, go after them, Tulsa. Bring something out. They got you so damn marginalized. And every one of those meetings, they don't you're not even in the camera. You're way down at the other end of the table.
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And that might be why because, you know, this report wasn't made in a day.
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So Well, they you know, the the main reason that started is because she came out with the with our intelligence thing saying Iran does not have a bomb, and they have no desire to have one. Well, that went absolutely counter to the damn bastards wanting to take over Iran and do a regime change and get their foot in the door with a with a nuclear weapon excuse, and so they started marginalizer. And he there's a guy named Sergei a Gore. Sergei a Gore, Sherry. I'd never heard his name before this week. He is a he's been caught lying already. He said he was from Malta, and he's from one of those f, a stand countries.
And he's a Jew. It's really Goroskofsky or was some crap. And he's the guy that ok's every person added to the Trump staff. That's how deep they've got him. Susie Wiles, this guy, all the other people that just stroke Israel, stroke Israel. We gotta get these people exposed, folks. There's one way we can do it. This is the power we've got to get numbers of people and pull ourselves out of the tax system. So now they gotta eat their own debt. That's the, impact we got right there. And it's enough already. They're they're already super conscious of it. You can see by what they do. Okay? And have been since I started teaching this fourteen years ago because of the sodomy pedophile larceny center, monitor and r b n. They've known about this for years. That's one of the things I wanna ask Anne. Why have you never heard my name before?
Because I got accurate information, and they won't give me any press. And we've had to give you one person at a time. Yes.
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Correct. I think the important part of her report is the usurpation of the people, which draws in the national state citizen status. Absolutely. So if there's no people who were really usurped, what's the point of that report? Do you see what I'm saying? How can, it move forward with, indictments and, prosecutions. That's my point. The most important part was her using the language of usurping the will of the people. Right. And we really, I think, need to latch on that. Now you should probably doesn't understand how it was usurped.
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Okay? Yeah. It's a it's a messy situation. I mean, don't forget, go back to Louis t McFadden, the 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden. I've got excerpts in my book. One of his statements, they control every major office here in Washington. That was in 1933. It's been almost a hundred years. How complete do you think their control is now? You can see it. But nobody knows where it came from. Nobody knows how they've taken control, and they just kinda try and fight it like Don Quixote going, well, I think I'll go waste my time jousting at some windmills. Yeah. Let's do that. That's all they're doing.
So hopefully this thing with Anne will help us turn a corner. She's incredibly connected and if she gets and it's already seems like, I don't know what Dave told her. Dave, did you mention the feudal system to her?
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Roger, I I tried to just keep the topic fairly high level because I didn't wanna get into the weeds
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Okay.
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And and risk, you know, saying something
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not exactly correct. You know? And I You know? Yeah. I mean You're the end. So And I appreciate that. But That's a big that's a big piece everybody's missing. It's the feudal system. Go ahead. I'm sorry to step on you. You Didn't like the allergy. Alright. I you know, she,
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she's got a a a I mean, she touched on some historical aspects, but, again, I I didn't get down the weeds, and I didn't wanna show my ignorance
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either. So Alright. Well, just please please tell her we've got a coordinated time, and my engineer will facilitate a call.
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Yeah. And Roger, she'll I I believe she'll be very respectful and open minded. She will be. Definitely. And, you know, I just wanna note too that after our call and, you know, she had looked at the website and does, very complimentary and said, I'm gonna tell folks about this. We saw a jump in our visitors. So, I mean, that kinda indicates kinda what may happen, after your you know, this if this interview comes to fruition. And
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but, anyway, the more resources we have out there for people to read and see, I think the better for sure. That's right. I agree. And a number of you, Marika too, and you and Kaye and Devon and and, and several others have contributed. Gary and Gina, good good lord. Let's not forget them. But all of y'all have taken your time, motivated by the message and and set up these resources for folks and appreciate all of you doing it. Okay? So, that's what this has got to be a team effort. I cannot do it by myself. Fortunately, I've been doing it by myself long enough to where we've built some kind of a substantial foundation. I don't know how large it is. Jeff Rentz wrote me back in the email exchange and said, you've got a very large audience. So according to him, there's a lot of people out there. You wouldn't know it by the people that attend our daily shows here, but I don't doubt that. People get this. They go on about their lives. Okay?
I just try and get you to understand. You got to have command of the information or you are not free. You're not free if you don't. You're just some looking for somebody to answer a damn question for you when you get confronted. You got to learn the information or we can't affect change. Period. I think that's what all of us want. I don't want any damn funds out of this, so I don't charge you. K? I don't need your money. I want you to have your your Babble box. Okay. Who's got some? Austin, did you show up yet? K. Austin didn't make it.
Unfortunately. Roger. Roger.
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Oh, okay. Roger, it's me. Yes, Julie. I just wanted to let you know I texted him and I didn't hear back, which means he's probably working. He has to work on Saturdays as well. Okay. Okay. Alright.
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And and and and part of the reason I reacted to you the way I do, Julie, is because I've been around so long, and I've seen so many of these scares and people go ballistic over it, and then they never happen or something happens. It's derailed. I'm just not affected by that anymore. K? So I've been around this a long time. Julie, I've been around this I've been in now, Julie, now you listen. I'm your elder. I've been around this rodeo a long time. A long time. Thirty three years. K? Just to let you know, I've learned a lot. K? Now what were you gonna say?
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Roger,
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that's why I'm on your show every day. That's why I appreciate you so much. That's why I constantly get the word out about you. But when it comes to this financial stuff and genius health stuff, again, I love you, but we'll disagree disagree on Well, it's a you look, I heard the guy cover it that's an expert on it, Julie, far more than you. He was on Okay. So then if you if if he's such an expert, get on Martin Eck, get on Martin Economics Economics and read his spiel about the Genius Bill. You respect him a lot too. Oh, okay. And he does exactly learn to think about the Genius Bill on his website there right now. They they're they say strongeconomics.com.
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According to this guy, they say that this law curtails any any of of of introduction, the CDBC central bank digital currency because it is communism. Because it is communism.
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Begging
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you to get on Armstrong Economic Not gonna get on Armstrong. I don't give a damn Send you the article. No. I'm not gonna read it. I can't read. It's hard for me to read.
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K. Martin Armstrong explains how the CBDC comes in through the Genius Act. I yield.
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Alright. You believe it. I look, guys. I'm 77 tomorrow. I'm not gonna have to worry about it. K? It'll never happen in in Ecuador. Never. And I can promise you that. Okay? So you guys, if you wanna stay in some place that might happen, that's your choice or your situation. I can't help that. They're gonna do it in Europe. They're gonna start doing it later this year in Germany. CBDC official. K? Yes. Who's trying to say something?
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This is Christian Reinder. Hey, Christian. How are you doing? I'm I'm I'm enjoying everything, but, you know, if they would just let wisdom talk, if they would not interrupt you. And when I see people running over you, I miss, I miss a lot of what you're trying to say. Yeah.
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So,
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I just wish people would let you hear say what you're gonna say instead of just trying to run over you. Well, they can't have a lift. They think they think we can have a two way conversation. A dot is called, oh, duplex. They we can't have a duplex conversation here. We gotta do one at a time. And, yeah, some of the people out there, they get so excited and so emotional that they can't help but jump in there and and and do and do what you're talking about. Yep. I just wanted to I'll say, yeah. Is there anybody that's been around this shooting match longer than me? Is there anybody in the audience that's been involved with this heavily for more than thirty three years? I know Tom Dee has. Any of you others?
Well, there you go. K?
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Nothing. Well, thank you, Roger. I just wanted to say that because if we just listen to wisdom and stop running over you when you're trying to make a point.
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Can I give you an example of sensationalism and hysteria? Can I give you a real good Yeah? Example? Y February.
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Yes.
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K.
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Oh, god. All the computer. What happened? Nothing.
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No. No. A lot happened in y two k. A lot of it because they spent the entire previous year adding patches and backdoors to every significant network system globally just under the under the hoax of the y two k. There was software being patched and doors being opened.
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Alright. There's a number of other examples I could go with just so that one comes to mind. K? Because everybody was so freaked out. We had all those expos. Everybody's buying a a damn storeroom full of food for y two k and all this, and, well, it just came and went.
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Yeah. K. There's
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others. There's others. I could probably name if I think about it for a minute, but just I don't buy into hysteria anymore.
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K?
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Mhmm.
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So go ahead, Paul.
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We may only have, oh, 50 or 60 people in free conference call. But, last week's unique listeners was 357. Last month's, was 1,199. Last thirty days total downloads, 3,364. Last week, 872 people downloaded the program. So you have an audience.
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Okay. Well, we're growing. You know? I know it's slow and, but, boy, it's, it's it's starting to heat up. It's starting to heat up right there. And here we are sitting on the sidelines with a foundation of people Right. Not nearly enough and waiting with all these other events that are happening and hoping that we can slip our foot right in the door. And with somebody with influence can get on one of these big platforms. And, buddy, if we can accomplish that, I I think I'm trying not to be have too many expectations. I think we might be off to to the races. So we'll see. Well, I'm hoping it'll happen. One foot in front of the other.
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I'm I'm hoping it'll happen, but, what did we do today? We made an announcement that, you know, there could be doors opening. We know that there's new people listening to the program. And we've spent almost the last ninety minutes just rehashing, old, for lack of a better word, bullshit. So
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we didn't put our best foot forward on this program if a bunch of new people are listening, trying to figure out if they actually wanna interview you or not. It's too bad that Austin, didn't show up today. I kinda had into again, anticipated that he'd be here. And for whatever reasons, he's not with us. K? Mhmm. But he'll be back. If he's interested, he'll be back. If he's not, he won't.
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Right.
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Next. Roger, I think Austin put together such a great deal on silver and gold for your listeners that he's having. He's just struggling dragging that giant bag of gold and silver coins into the room. He needs help.
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Okay, Dave. Well, maybe somebody will help you. So who else has got something we can discuss that's not adversarial or sensational, please?
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I got Hey, Raj. Did you hear Marjorie Taylor Greene, what she said about that, that vote the other day in the in the house or something that it was the longest open vote, and it was on the CBDC, and she was the only one that voted no when they finally shut it down at midnight. I didn't Johnson made a deal. No. I did not hear that. You gotta pull her up.
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You gotta pull her up. I try and watch her today. I I like her. Pretty incredible. I try and watch her every time she's on somewhere. I I can't do everything. K?
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I know. But, well, this is what basically, what she said was she was the only one. It was the longest open vote in in congressional history. They had that thing open till midnight. I don't know when they opened it, but she said she was the only one that voted no. And Johnson finally shut it down because he made a deal that he would put it in the NDAA, that would ban the CBDC. And she said he he already knows he doesn't have the votes to do that, and it's coming. She says it's coming.
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Well, if it is That's all I'm that's what I'm If you don't wanna deal with it, you better get your ass out of The US and Europe and some place that's safe and still uses the dollar. That'd be my suggestion. You got a number of countries as an option. K.
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Roger, may I?
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Julie, I guess so. You're gonna
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go off on us again or what? No. I'm gonna read no. I'm gonna read you what, what what is this sketch right here? I'm gonna read you exactly what Marjorie Taylor Greene just tweeted. I just voted no on the rule for the Genius Act because it does not include a ban on central bank digital currency and because speaker Johnson did not allow us to submit amendments to the Genius Act. Americans do not want a government controlled central bank digital currency, and she goes on and on on her, her her post on x. I'll let everybody go there. And I'm on Armstrong Economics. He posted her whole entire tweet on his, on his site, and he says he says on here, the government is turning the stablecoin into a digital top dollar. The concern here is that this could delve into digitizing all currency and creating a CBDC.
The act specifically provides the government with the authority to block, freeze, and reject specific or impermissible transactions. And so, if you can go on Armstrong Economics, it's posted right in front, and he's got receipts. I yield
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Alrighty. Well, that won't happen in Ecuador. K? So that's where I am. That's my concern. If you guys don't wanna deal with all that, then get out. K? So that's my suggestion. Where else can we go? Pardon me, Tom?
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Do you have a spare bedroom?
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Yeah. Or lots of spare bedrooms? No. I do not. But, but they're they're overbuilding down here. I think everybody thinks it's because of the drug money, so there's a lot of availability. You wouldn't believe the construction that's going on down here for some country where the average income is less $500 a month. You wouldn't believe it. It's got to be drug money. I go to the big mall down there, and there's all these, hell, Tommy Hilfinger has half a floor. I don't think I've ever in eight years, seven years, however long I've been here, I don't think I've ever seen a customer in there when I walk by. Ever. And there's a with a bunch of those stores over there. K? So I don't know. I just live here. I like it.
I'm in pretty good shape. So, the last part of my, existence here on this earth, I think, is gonna be pretty good. But it's because I made the right decisions a long time ago to be here. And and so, I feel very blessed, but yet I work to to have an understanding to be able to make these decisions and be here and be out of debt and not have any of this crap and have all my savings in something that's the highest producing asset since the turn of the century of any asset class. Those are those are decisions I made because of knowledge and understanding I had. And if you'll do that, you'll be able to make the same correct decisions.
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Joan's
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been trying to get in here. Joan, I'm sorry, sweetie. How are you?
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Good.
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Roger, can you hear me loud enough? Well, I hear you. I don't know if it's loud enough, but I can hear you.
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Hey. Marjorie Taylor Green. Would you, you know, remember, Bradley Dean and Tim Brown from Sons of Liberty?
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Yes. Well, I yeah. I
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saw I saw something from them, yesterday about Marjorie Taylor Greene, if you would like to hear it.
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Okay. Go ahead. I don't have,
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the Okay. Well, I mean, let me know what you think. Here it is. Marjorie Taylor Greene bought stock in Planeteer on April 8. Yeah. On April 17 on April 17, and she did the same thing with the pharmaceutical companies. Okay. And and, on April you do know?
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No. I don't. I've heard that before. Yes. But I can't help that all that stuff. I thought most of those congressmen put any of their their stuff in blind trust when they did that. I don't know. Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to be pretty straight ahead to me. I like what she says, and people are even floating her name to run for president. So I don't know about all that stuff, Joan.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Just because she took money from Peter t just because she took Pete money from Peter Thiel, that doesn't sway me either. Okay?
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Well
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Okay.
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MJT is not a far cry from DJT. We could follow a theme.
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No. MTJ. DJT. D j.
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No. Never mind. Forget it. Forget it. Forget it. My my brain is You don't Yeah. Thank you. Short of
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go get another cup of coffee. Yes. Who else has got something to add?
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Jerry. Roger, I have a question.
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Okay.
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My question is, is it This is Robby. Where you're at is on the dollar. Can you please identify
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yourself? This is Sherry. This is Sherry. Okay. Well, I thought you were Robbie. We hadn't seen you. How long has it been how long has it been since we saw you last? Six months?
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It's been a while. Okay. Yeah. And that's okay. I'm back. My question is if, the dollar in America is being transformed, doesn't that affect every country that uses the dollar? No. No. It doesn't.
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They've got a number of countries that use the dollar. We're one of them. I Think Panama is one of them. There I think there's a Caribbean island or two. There's another Argentina, I believe, now is using the dollar. So they cannot stop printing dollars because they control these countries with the dollar. For us here, when when Correio, the communist was in, he tried to do a a a a country digital, and the people would not accept it. And then after he was gone, they passed a law that no retailer in the country can take Bitcoin. And I assume that's the other cyber currencies too. This is, you know, indigenous 50% of people, they want the dollar, baby.
They want the dollar. And those other countries are about the same way. So, no, they will not be able to stop printing
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dollars. That's a quick question.
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Hold it. Let me make sure Sherry understands that. You you get that?
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Yes. It's still you know, some people are gonna have the ability to say no to it, but, you know, the fourteenth amendment citizens of
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America will not be. Is that pretty much the bottom line? Well, if if all these people are say saying it's true and it comes true, it ain't gonna be in Europe, they're evidently gonna start it in Germany or something with the EU, I think, this fall, October, maybe. But, my understanding is they're not gonna be able to do that in The US. Other people have different understandings. Okay? Yes, Julie. You may.
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Yeah. The stablecoin, which is gonna be, USDT, USDT, and Tether are going to be the they're going to be the new world's reserve digital currency. That's all over The Wall Street Journal. It's all over Bloomberg, and it's gonna be blockchain assets backed by deposit and treasury securities. And that is the new dollar based revolution happening throughout the entire world. And this is going to be the Stablecoin is gonna be a way to get US based dollars or stable coin backed by the US dollar and treasury, securities in the hands of every common woman and man in every country. Yep. They're already using it for remittances
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because Wells Fargo charges two to 5% depending on when you pick it up. And, so now these people up there that do the remittances can just go get Tether and they send it with no cost, basically. Okay? And I'm and that's gonna help me I'm gonna tell you, that's gonna help me a lot because I cannot leave the country under my current circumstances until I get this visa thing straightened out. But my buddy in Buenos Aires, which has got a much bigger market for that, can go down and exchange it, put it in Tether, and send it to me, and I can use it then, hopefully, to get this situation overcome. But I'm waiting until the damn gold spikes.
[01:37:32] Unknown:
Because I'm I'm waiting for Pardon me? I'm waiting for, XRP to go up. XRP could be the new cross border payment system worldwide. And, I bought my, XRP at 50¢ and yes. That's Ripple. And, you got Stellar, which is XLM. I tell people, go get yourself some XRP, XLM. I got 10000% increases on my investments in in those in those, specific ISO two zero zero two two cryptocurrency coins. They're gonna be the wave of the future when it comes to this digital currency system that's rolling out at warp speed. So, they're predicting XRP to go up to over $200. So get yourself some XRP, XLM, HBAR, and some of these ISO two zero zero two two coins, I yield. Okay. If you if you're worried about upside $3 XRP's at $3.50 already.
[01:38:25] Unknown:
If you got a lot of upside left and you wanna speculate over there, do that. Okay? I'm I'm a I'm a precious metals guy. I don't have a lot of time left on this earth. I ain't putting my money in any of that crap. K? Period. Yes, Paul.
[01:38:42] Unknown:
Question for Samuel. The great bible hoax of 1881, is that a video? Is it two hours and forty nine minutes and forty seconds long? And is it a publication of parable?
[01:38:56] Unknown:
Does it say parable, right, like, within the first few seconds? Although they're an affirmative, I do believe, Paul, and it should be Christopher Pinto and his wife in in that one. Okay.
[01:39:08] Unknown:
Well, the great Bible the great Bible hoax of 1881, two hours forty nine minutes and forty seconds is available on YouTube on the Flight of Faith channel or the Fight of Faith.
[01:39:22] Unknown:
Sorry, Samuel. I ain't putting three hours into that video. Sorry, buddy. You can send it to me over and over again. I ain't watching three hours of it.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
Well well, Roger, you know, our freedom is important to us, of course, but this is ultimately a spiritual battle. Okay. We shouldn't lose sight of it. I think I've I think I've got a pretty good handle on the spiritual area.
[01:39:43] Unknown:
So thank you, though.
[01:39:45] Unknown:
Well, you when you have important points, Roger, you make them over and over again because that's what we need. Yeah. I know. We need the repetitive and the Drill practice rehearse. K. Drill practice rehearse. Yep. Alright.
[01:39:59] Unknown:
So, okay. Who, who else has got something here? We got a few minutes left in the show. What? Twenty, maybe? Twenty minutes? Twenty. Since Austin didn't show up, tell him we're sorry we missed him. There if you would, Julie, when you talk to him or connect with him, and, when he can, we're here if he wants to move forward. Totally his choice. Who else can we touch touch up on today? By the way, I've got this, Logan, a guy named Logan. Sowing prosperity is his channel on YouTube, and it's on the thirty first, which is interesting because that's the day that I started my own show. It was July 31. It's another one of those important dates this month. And he's wanting to talk about down here, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and El Salvador, some of those places. So I'll probably talk to him ahead of time if we can overcome this stupid ass situation that Microsoft and Skype have created.
Hopefully, my magicJack will come in sometime soon here, Paul. We'll see. And that is one of the limitations of living down here. There are other ways. There do they do have some kind of, oh, you can get Amazon shipments and stuff like that. I hate Amazon, really. I'm sorry. And, but those are available too, but I have not availed myself of them. They I have very specialized needs on things up there like magicJack or, try and buy, supplements through AJ. So, anyway, it's always the battle of living here is getting stuff down here, especially since COVID. Is Amazon.
Got a new I'll bet. Oh, there's Tom. Hey, Tom. How long you've been in this patching the radio, Tom? Yeah. I know forty years. Right?
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Seventy nines.
[01:42:02] Unknown:
Well, you were ahead of me by a decade.
[01:42:07] Unknown:
Well, it's been, yeah, 1979, nineteen eighties when I first got wind to all this.
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So So I had a suspicion, but I didn't have a thread to run on until '92.
[01:42:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. There was, well, I was working in nuclear power, so there was a big hubbub about it. You know? People were all filing exempt w fours and, you know, what and and in fact, I think even prior to that, somebody had approached me even before then was, about all this. And I just I said, you know, you're crazy. You're out of your mind. Get away from me. Yeah. That's fine. You know? And then if somebody hit me at the right time with the right, you know, with the right conversation, you know, just kinda like what you did. And, you know, and all the groups and all with all the material and all the meetings and videos and audios and booklets and pamphlets and every other damn thing that I had come in contact with.
I've been looking for your looking for your, information for, you know, for forty years, and there it was. It was right there. Yeah. And what was the shame was that you and I ran in some of the same circles and never never crossed paths. Yeah. Well, there you go, folks. Right from the horse's mouth.
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Pardon me, Tom. I'm not referring to you as mister Ed or anything.
[01:43:30] Unknown:
You're good, mister Ed. A horse You know, you were just talking about the yep. You're talking about the gold stuff. You know, I listened to think I sent you that, Miles Franklin. You did. I haven't had a chance to watch it. Check, man. I haven't had a chance to No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No and, you know, even though I can't afford it, but they're they're selling, junk silver at, Spot.
[01:44:00] Unknown:
Yeah. No premium. No. No. No premium on junk silver at Miles Franklin, folks.
[01:44:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Dimes and quarters. And then they said they'll even take if you've got bullion, like, if you got some I guess, I don't I don't I don't think I've ever seen anything bigger than a 10 ounce bar. But, if you got bars, they'll swap them out for junk silver for, like, 2%. Guess that's pretty good. I don't know a lot about it. But I had a 100 ounce bar of silver that got stolen,
[01:44:26] Unknown:
of course.
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Oh, goodness.
[01:44:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I had a 170 ounces of it. A 100 ounce bar was one. The rest were tens. And had a hurricane down there, and and my mother wouldn't do all the shit that was right and got a a charlatan in there, found it in up in her closet in her bathroom, stole it. All all the stuff that my father and I. My dad and I, we got into this coin thing when we were in Alaska. And he'd drop by the bank there on base and get a $100 worth of coins or so. And we'd spend the whole weekend with a card table open going through those coins and trying to fill those little blue books with the right date and mint mark. Add all that stuff. Well, all that got stolen too. Had six or 10 rolls of uncirculated brand new $19.64 dimes. That got stolen too. It's just one thing after another, folks. You just gotta watch yourself.
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Yep.
[01:45:24] Unknown:
Oh, it just makes me I I if I think please don't let me dwell on that because I'll get really pissed. Okay? So I'd rather not.
[01:45:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Don't feel bad. My brother my brother stole all the gold coins that my grandfather left for me and my and the rest of our siblings and spent them at 07:11.
[01:45:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, there's another one. I have a friend whose daddy collected all those old coins. And when he died, all of a sudden, his whole coin collection went missing. So you gotta be very careful with this stuff. Yeah. I'm telling you. So I've learned to read just recently here. Even though you know somebody over thirty two years, they stab your ass in the back. You you do you do not know who to trust in this life. I'm I hate to say that.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
The seven Eleven food brand called Go Yum?
[01:46:20] Unknown:
Dave, what was that?
[01:46:23] Unknown:
I said, was he buying the seven Eleven food brand called Go Yum? You know, it's a Jewish company, seven Eleven, and they were their food brand is called Go Yum. Isn't every company a Jewish company, Dave?
[01:46:41] Unknown:
Isn't virtually every company a Jewish company they're owned at some percentage of the stock by BlackRock, State Street, or whatever the other one is, vault Vulture Capital, whatever it is. Yeah.
[01:46:57] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what we're started seven eleven because the goi weren't getting nutritious enough food. So, you know Well, I don't know. I heard I actually met the grandson of the founder of seven eleven. Oh, really? And,
[01:47:10] Unknown:
yeah, they just they just started out as a little as a little,
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store, you know,
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selling ice. And and then all of a sudden, you know, they, said, you know, people could come in here wanting, you know, want some of this, want some of that, and that's how seven eleven started.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
I heard, Tom, if you marry an Indian gal and scratch that dot on her forehead off, you might win one.
[01:47:37] Unknown:
Oh, I thought that was a push start.
[01:47:41] Unknown:
Is that somebody with a comment there? Was that Joe? Did I hear Joe? I thought I heard Joe. Okay. Well, we're edging towards the edge of the program. If you've got anything you wanna say or whatever, your time is, quickly evaporating. Come forward, please.
[01:48:01] Unknown:
Hey, Dee.
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Hello there.
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Were you about 25 years old in 1979?
[01:48:11] Unknown:
Well, I was born in '55. So
[01:48:14] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Okay. Wow. So you you heard about all this, like, what Roger's involved with, since 1979. Great. Wow.
[01:48:24] Unknown:
There's a picture of you. I met Erwin Shiff in, '81, I think. And, 8080 or '81, I forget when. But, somewhere right around that neck of the neighborhood at the time. So,
[01:48:39] Unknown:
When did Gary North And then Gary North that wrote None Dare Call It Conspiracy or None Dare Call It Treason, both of those books were out in the streets. Yep. John?
[01:48:49] Unknown:
Yep. And they were in Yeah. I think they still have that original copy. Do you really? Yep. I think I still have that. God, you're a packer. Yeah. I got a whole bunch. I mean, I got a file cabinet full of stuff from the back in the eighties. And, oh my goodness. Just so much stuff out there. But, yeah. Tom is Hey, Roger.
[01:49:14] Unknown:
Tom is about the only person I know that's been in this longer than me, possibly Gary here. Hey, Gary. How are you doing?
[01:49:22] Unknown:
Oh, pretty good. I wanna give everybody a hint on how to get some silver cheap, real cheap. Start going to rummage sales and buy all the jewelry you can find at 9 if that's 0.97 silver. Then take it to your local coin dealer, and they'll buy it from you And then turn that into cash or turn it into silver, whichever you choose. But you can pick up silver jewelry at rummage sales and stuff for 50¢, whatever. And instead of right now, it's gonna be worth $20.
[01:50:04] Unknown:
Yeah. There you go.
[01:50:07] Unknown:
Yeah. And you get rolls of buy rolls of penny. Get rolls of pennies everywhere you can go through and pull out all the 1981 and older pennies. You can sell a 50¢ roll of pennies on eBay for three times, face value. Then you can take that and convert it if you want.
[01:50:26] Unknown:
Okay. All kinds of Yeah. There's a lot of Roger. Hold on hold on a second, Sherry. Times you
[01:50:32] Unknown:
Go ahead, Gary. A lot of times you can find some gold jewelry, you know, 10 karat, 14 karat, and
[01:50:41] Unknown:
there you're talking some big bucks. I I knew somebody that bought bought a real diamond at a flea market.
[01:50:50] Unknown:
Well, I bought way more than one at Remington Flea Markets.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Chris and Shane Gina's got a Go ahead. Gina's finish up. Gary, and we'll get to Chris and Shane. Well, Gina's got a whole back full of sterling silver,
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and we're getting ready to cash it in this week just to convert it to $9.09 9. Yep. I mean, it's $7.02 5, but
[01:51:17] Unknown:
just convert it to $9.09 9. Well, evidently, silver So, anyway, there you go. Gold has had its run. I've taken advantage of that. Now, evidently, according to Kirk Elliott, silver is about ready too, and the, the the ratio is going down now currently on silver to gold. So yep. Alright. Hold on. I we had, we had Chris from California was was in there and then Shane. Chris, what do you got? Oh, Chris? Chris, you're trying back into listen only mode. Okay. Thank you, Tom. Good to hear your voice. We haven't seen you in a little while. Thank you.
[01:52:00] Unknown:
Chris, you're counting around. I just haven't had time to jump into the call. Okay. So if you ever need me, just holler. If I'm here, I'll jump on. I will, buddy. Thank you. Chris I have something after Chris.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
Well, no. Shane's after Chris, but we'll get you after Shane. Chris, do you have anything or not? If not, I'm gonna skip over you. Shane, what do you got?
[01:52:21] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Shane, the thing is is that I really wanna get this book into every everyone's hands. We're gonna try, Paul. We're gonna try, Shane. We're trying. We that's a priority. Okay?
[01:52:33] Unknown:
Enough said.
[01:52:36] Unknown:
Alright. Enough said then. Okay. Alright. Who's the female?
[01:52:40] Unknown:
I think I think Shane was trying to share a book, and then I have something for you, Roger. He was trying to give us inspiration to get the book on. I know it's a problem. We're trying to get it, overcome a couple of obstacles. Paul, have you gotten the book from Alan yet? If not, you should get it this week. Right? Having a hard time today. Paul, you there? Did you go off chasing the cat? What's going on? Roger, I just wanted to say happy birthday. Happy birthday. That'll be tomorrow. Thank you very much. Yep. Y'all say happy birthday to me tomorrow. We won't be together.
Okay. Now who else is trying Chris was there, didn't show up. We heard from Shane. Wasn't there a female after that? Hold on. Was there a female after Shane? Or was that Merka? That was me, Roger. Okay. It was Merka. Alright. Who's saying Roger there?
[01:53:38] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. It's David. Yeah, Dave. Yeah. Real quick. I literally just got a text from miss Vandersteel, and Zoom or WhatsApp would work for her. Monday will be Okay. We'll shoot her my number. Yep.
[01:53:54] Unknown:
And
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and tell her to I will. And,
[01:53:58] Unknown:
go ahead. I or tell her to connect with me or I, if she if she could do that with my eyes and my fingers and those damn cell phones, I have a really hard time. Okay?
[01:54:10] Unknown:
No. I did I told her you were challenged your vision. You had challenges with your vision and and, you know, she understands. So I don't think that's a problem. I think, soon y'all talk and
[01:54:23] Unknown:
we get this locked up, the better. Right? So Okay. Well, I'm sure if she suggested it, I'd I'm sure you told her I accepted. So if nothing else, we got the sixth and the seventh nailed down. She wants to talk to me before. Just tell her to add add me into WhatsApp or I could try. I got her number. You sent it in that email this morning. I could try and do it. I need to go and remember to go out by a computer store and see if I can buy one of those damn little pins that you can
[01:54:52] Unknown:
I'll I'll share your WhatsApp,
[01:54:54] Unknown:
number with her, and, we'll we'll get y'all to do. Alright. Okay. Tell her I'm except for these two hours, I'm usually pretty free. If she calls, sometimes my phone doesn't ring. Don't ask me why. I don't know. I'll just see a message that so and so called. It never rang all day. So I might have that obstacle. So I got some obstacles down here, Dave. Okay? Please tell her that. Roger. If not, it'll show she called, and I'll call her back.
[01:55:25] Unknown:
Okay. We'll do. And one other topic, Ron Gibson passed away, I think, last night. Did he? Oh. Yeah. Yep. He was K. They had him in ICU, and and he passed away. So, she brought that up because she she was hoping to get a chance to work with him on some stuff. But, anyway, yeah, that was sad sad loss, by the way. Well, it is. And I'm sorry. We had mister Gibson on the show with Brent one Friday years ago, about 2021,
[01:55:55] Unknown:
I think. And, yeah, he seemed to be a nice guy. Samuel's the one that turned us on to him. I've never heard of him before that. So, but I'm not sure how effective his approach was,
[01:56:09] Unknown:
honestly. Well, we're Kaye and I took his course. Gosh. It's been two years, and Kaye's been steadily, you know, generating our chain of title back to the land patent. So Right. We're gonna find out. And in the county, in in every county, property, office is different how they approach things. That's true. So we'll we'll I'll keep you I'll keep the group posted on that. Okay.
[01:56:37] Unknown:
Thank you, Dave. Sorry to hear about mister Gibson. Yes, Samuel.
[01:56:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to mention, of course, I don't know anything about it because I'm not tech savvy, but you should be able to voice command instead of text by hand.
[01:56:55] Unknown:
I I might be able to. I don't I can't read any instructions or anything. K? Maybe it could helps have somebody who's a little tech savvy to help you set it up, and then you can do it that way. I might could. I don't know about that. K. But I sure have a hard time with them some bitches. I just don't like them. K?
[01:57:15] Unknown:
Roger, what's what time zone are you in, by the way? Central this time of year. Eastern
[01:57:20] Unknown:
the other time. If we change, I think Trump said we weren't gonna do the change anymore after this fall, so I don't I don't know. This time of year, I'm in central time. But you see, the problem is Ecuador does not change. I have to change my schedule so we can do this. So everybody else is still the same old time.
[01:57:43] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:57:45] Unknown:
I'll shoot you an email as a follow-up, Roger. Alright. Please, Dave. Please don't don't give me too many of those large paragraphs. I just I I strange my eyes so much. Yep. Unless you break it down into a couple of sentences or something with spaces. And then some people don't even know what a paragraph is. Evidently, they never learn. Okay? Because they'll just do one big long thing, and I just I can't read it. I'm sorry. Will do, Rogers. Now what I need Sorry about that. There's a way inside Windows 11 where the computer can read it for you, but I don't know how to do that.
[01:58:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll I'll keep it short and and separate and,
[01:58:29] Unknown:
accommodate you for sure. Okay. Thank you, Dave. Alright. You got about a minute or two left. Anybody got some wrap up here?
[01:58:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Back to, precious metals. Pointed at a mint is what money is. But, anybody ever give, platinum or palladium,
[01:58:49] Unknown:
a look see? Lots of those metal.
[01:58:54] Unknown:
One of them pull up platinum metal. Schecter, from Miles Franklin. That's what he like. He likes platinum stuff. There's a few of them. Platinum's gone up a lot, but, yeah, I I don't mess with either one of them. I want something common. Those are very specialty metals.
[01:59:13] Unknown:
I see. Yeah. But, they seem to be well, I don't know. You say they've gone up. I haven't checked it. I heard well, I heard Sheckman talking about it on an issue on an
[01:59:25] Unknown:
couple of weeks ago. Yeah. But, see, here's the problem. If you take that to somebody, you wanna sell it. You say this is platinum palladium, and they're going, well, hell, it looks like silver to me. I think you're bullshitting me. Okay?
[01:59:39] Unknown:
Get it? Yeah. That's a that's a fair point.
[01:59:44] Unknown:
Unless you're a very sophisticated unless you're a very sophisticated investor, I'd say stick with basics, gold or silver. But if you're sophisticated and wanna branch off, knock yourself out. K? Alright. Greg, is that the The merchant deed Go ahead, please.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Yeah, Roger. And least we not forget that this is a process, and, truth seekers are always trying to seek the truth and, you know, cherish that. That's what I value the most, and it's it's not easy to find.
[02:00:29] Unknown:
I mean, we're surrounded by lies. Right? I'm a tell you, the world does not like the truth. K? I'm promising you that it doesn't like the truth. It wants to be in this little pink cloud of these lies because they feel so comfortable in there. They do not want to face the things they've not been programmed for. That's my that's why I tell you guys are so special, man. I mean, look, I've been looking for you for fourteen years. Fourteen years. You're very rare. I appreciate and love each and every one of you. Alright? And, here we go. Towards the end of the program, one more little verse here from Crosby, Sils, and Nash, and we're gonna go away and have an abbreviated weekend. And that's what we're gonna do.
So does anybody else have anything for me at this point on Saturday?
[02:01:29] Unknown:
That is I'd just like to mention one more thing.
[02:01:33] Unknown:
Go ahead, Joan. Joan, is there any way we could get Joan more upfront? Is it your phone? Or what is it, Joan, that you always sound so distant? I don't know, but I'm sorry. You're good. Into the microphone. You weren't you weren't talking into the microphone. Well, a 100% better right there. Please talk directly in the microphone. Gracias. Gracias Chica. Okay. What was your, comment, Samuel?
[02:02:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Gold and silver is fine, but, if we hit a real snag in the road, storable foods like the twenty five year foods and and potable water, Storable foods would be off the shelves in three days, so it doesn't matter whether you've got gold or silver. You won't be able to buy it. You won't be able to eat if you don't have some kind of stores. Priorities. So you should put your money in food and and water first. Make sure that's gonna be there. If it's gonna get that bad, you you you better have some lead too, buddy, because they're gonna be coming after your food and water.
[02:02:40] Unknown:
So, let's hope it doesn't get that bad. It might. Don't know.
[02:02:47] Unknown:
K? It won't take much to wipe things out. Just a hiccup, really. I mean, we we don't we don't have any backups anywheres in this country. I I think they even sucked down the the oil reserve, didn't they? Oh, Biden did. Yeah.
[02:03:02] Unknown:
Yep.
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Okay. Anybody got anything for me? Country. I'm not gonna stick around here. It's my weekend, man. I'm gonna get out of here unless you got something for me.
[02:03:12] Unknown:
Roger, one more thing. This is David. It's 2PM, Monday, central. 2PM, Monday. Is that a good time, central? For us to talk?
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm I'm sure that'll work. You know,
[02:03:27] Unknown:
hopefully, my She kept it she kept it open ended for Monday, and, I know you had the show in the morning, so I thought
[02:03:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Let's just let her know. Okay. Tell her that that's agreeable with me. Okay? That's agreeable with me. And if I since we've not connected yet, if something comes up, I'll contact you and let you know. But, otherwise, Monday afternoon, our two hours after we get finished should be alright.
[02:03:57] Unknown:
Okay. And I'll share your WhatsApp your WhatsApp phone number with her. Yes. Well, that's my Ecuadorian phone number. Yes. Okay. Make sure that you're clear on time zones.
[02:04:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Tell her I'm central. Tell her I'm central.
[02:04:11] Unknown:
Yep. I'm gonna say 2PM central. So, hope everybody will Alright. Well, tell, tell,
[02:04:18] Unknown:
I think it's I think she's married. Tell Han that I look forward to speaking with her. K?
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Will do. Thanks. Alright. And,
[02:04:29] Unknown:
if if they're gonna connect on WhatsApp, if you need anything from me at all, pass my email address onto her too.
[02:04:39] Unknown:
Okay. I will do. I will do that. WhatsApp.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
It shouldn't be any problem. It's pretty easy. So, Yep. Yep. And see, on WhatsApp, I can put it on the computer. Can you put it on your desktop, and I can enlarge it
[02:04:54] Unknown:
enough to read. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, I explained that to her, Roger. So she's she understands, so it's no big deal. You know? Okay. Well, I Yep. Yep.
[02:05:04] Unknown:
Nothing I can do anything about.
[02:05:07] Unknown:
Yeah. You're right. Yep.
[02:05:09] Unknown:
So for the most part, maybe some miracle come along. Who knows? I don't I'm not out searching for No. Anyway, anybody else at this point?
[02:05:20] Unknown:
Just, an FYI for anybody that, wants to see the great Bible hoax of 1881. It will be up in the videos folder on docs.exposethematrix.com in about eighteen minutes.
[02:05:38] Unknown:
Alright. So there you go. Anyway, I will see you guys, hopefully, Monday morning at ten, and we'll see where next week goes. If next week's as exciting as this week, hell, strap yourself in. Yeah. Okay?
[02:05:56] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Have a good day. Thank you. You. You, Bory.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
We'll, the in Las Vegas, they're they're they're Los Angeles. Yep. Okay. Happy birthday. Okay. Bye. Bye, Shane. See you, kids. Tell Austin, Julie, we're sorry we didn't get to yak with him today, but, obviously, something came up. We'll look for him in the future. If not, we wish him good luck. Yes, sir? I don't know what that means. It's happy something.
[02:06:34] Unknown:
Happy weekend
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abbreviate. Oh. Oh. Okay. Hi. That's that's big Spanish. It's a It's a Yes. He was trying to say something. But that was big Spanish.
[02:06:54] Unknown:
I just said happy birthday, Roger. Thank you. Happy birthday, Roger.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Thank you, everybody.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
I'll see you on Monday. Everybody. I'll be a year older. Yeah. I'll
[02:07:06] Unknown:
be a year older on Monday. I hope I don't look it. Okay. Happy birthday. We'll see you. Thank you very much. You all have a great weekend. I'll see you Monday in the same time slot. Ciao. Ciao.
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Ciao. You know, I thought that was completely self explanatory. Feliz. I I thought that was perfectly understandable. Made sense to me.
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You're still not quite a boy. You made me confused.
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Well, that's because you don't pick you don't speak pig Espanol.
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You know, like, pig Latin. Oh. You know? Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah. Look at that.
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Yeah. It's it's pig Espanol. Alright. Alright. Alright. I'll behave even though I don't want to. What? Oh, well. Yeah. We had a couple of, How you doing there, Paul? I'm doing pretty good. We had a couple of anonymous callers into the show, and I didn't know if it was anybody that, was just Perez? Dialed in for the first time. So, I believe one of them was, the feral material. And, the the other one, when I asked for a name, they hung up. So oh, well.
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Hey, Paul. Yeah.
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What I I've I've always been told this, you know, as a child, and I also told my daughter.
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But but what does it mean to behave?
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What is that at what how what is that? What is a have, which is have? What what does that actually mean? Was what my daughter asked me. What does that mean, mom? What how do I do that? What does that word what does it mean? She always used to do that crap to me. She was fun to parent.
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It means straighten up. Mean?
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We were told you don't do it, and your ass get to what?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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See, behaving is what you do. Behaving is what you do to avoid discomfort like a red butt after a spanking. So if you behave, that will avoid that.
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Well, I told her it means to act right. Act right. That's what it means. Translation, act right.
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Okay. Or at least act left.
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In my time was not spanking, but it was a boot, a stick, whatever it was there. You're gonna
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get Boy, go out yonder in the yard and cut me a switch. And it better be a good one because you come back with hurt. It better be a good one because if it breaks, you gonna go out and get another one and get twice as many licks. If it breaks, the licks will start all over again. What?
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This is Robbie. I came in late. Could you tell me what the great bible hoax is? What was that about?
[02:10:41] Unknown:
The great bible hoax is a video. It's on YouTube. It's a great bible hoax of 1881, and, it, it talks about the, the actual history and the, the Bible through all of its various translations and what the basis are for them.
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You know? Thank you. What is your, what is your go ahead.
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My my take on it is I know nothing. I'm like Sergeant Schultz on Hogan Siro's. I have not watched the video. I just found it. I'm uploading it to, docs.exposethematrix.com in the two hours. Folder. Yeah. It's two hours forty nine minutes something like that.
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Who's it by? Do you know?
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I pair like, parable,
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parable channel or whatever. And this the narrator is Christian Pinto. He put it together. Oh, Chris Pinto. Oh, yeah. He's a he's a Catholic, isn't he?
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No. Not even close.
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What what what is he? I I I remember, he is he Zionist? I can't remember. There was something about him.
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Absolutely not. You're dead wrong on both assumptions. So you got the wrong Christopher Cinto. Chris Cinto.
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Did he do something on the boundary?
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Sorry. Yes. He did something on the boundary as well. Per is channel this parable that he's using? Mhmm.
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I was wondering, do you have a take, maybe Samuel Samuel on the, Masoretic text versus the Septuagint?
[02:12:27] Unknown:
Well, after the first century, they made a lot of changes. The Jews did. So Right. This whole thing is about this video that the great bible hoax is about two forged, codexes that they used to give us all our new bible translations. That's what it's about. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.
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Oh, right. You guys were talking about that. And what, do you support either one of those, Atticus versus Sinaiticus?
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Well, they're both forgeries in my opinion.
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Yeah. I know. That's where I'm at, Samuel. That's where I'm at. Because the Masoretic text was written much, much later. And the Septuagint was by the by the scribes, and they weren't trustworthy either, were they?
[02:13:19] Unknown:
Well, the way I'll look at it without making it too complicated is the the new Christians, by the time you get to Augustine, don't wanna have anything to do with the Jews, which was a bit of a mistake. When, Jerome did the first translation into Latin from the Greek and Hebrew texts, he thought both were valuable. And I think Jerome was correct. But then when the Catholic church became a military organization and was taken over by the empire, you end up getting all kinds of things that come in with that. And guys like Augustine threw the Mesoretic text completely under the bus, which was probably a mistake too.
So you you gotta really look at what is in that old testament and what's in that new testament and what jive with each
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other and our constituents. Trust? What version do you trust?
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Older King James version. Oh. The received text, which is direct translation from the Greek in most cases.
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Is that the 1611?
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Yeah. And even the Geneva is good. That's fifty years prior. That's still Uh-huh. You know, based on a lot of good translations. The problem with the Synaticus the the problem if you watch the the the thing on Synaticus is when that was supposedly found under very, very strange conditions by, a guy who was dealing with the Catholic church that was supposedly a Protestant called Von Tischendorf. This guy was opposed by a Greek scholar of the time by the name of Simonides that said he wrote it in the eighteen hundreds, in the early eighteen hundreds, 1840. And he says, you that was never meant to be anything but a gift to the czar of Russia from me.
It was never meant to be a text that was valid. And then, of course and then Vaticanus came from the Vatican, and you could really trust a Vatican. Right. So that's what our bible translations are based on today, like the NIV, etcetera.
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So how how far at what date do you think the King James, up until what point do you think the King James is okay? All the way up to the new King James or or where do you draw the line on the King James?
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I think if you stay prior to 1972, that's when they really started publishing these these newer texts and translations.
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Uh-huh.
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Now I'm not sure whether they I'm sure there's King James versions that stay true to it after that. I just if I wanted to play it on the safe side, I'd say prior to the seventies.
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And I also heard that in the original King James that the name, I guess it's y h w h, was used, and it's something about being in the concordance 7,000 times. Do you know anything about that? Well, that's the Tetragrammaton.
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That's the name of the Lord without
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the the vowels. Yeah. I I know that, but I'm saying have you heard that that was in the earlier the original, excuse me, King James?
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Or at least in the second quarter? I'm not sure. I think I think what they did is a lot of those translations did use Lord, which is probably not as accurate as I would prefer it to be, but at least I know that. I mean, the same thing that you do to them. It's not it's not perfect, but we know where the problems are.
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I think they were using I think they were using I e s o u s in the King James earlier.
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That could well be
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I mean the problem with, you know, the Lord and the God and all those things, those are pagan words. And then of course, they didn't have the j until five hundred years ago. So even the name, you know, has been botched because how many people on earth have been called Jesus? I mean, it's the name above all names. It's not Jesus. You know? That was a Jesuit thing that was brought in. Well, he came in his father's name.
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That should be a huge hit. Amen. Father's name is the father's name is Yahushua. So his name would be, Yahushua.
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Yeah. I I'm One of
[02:18:09] Unknown:
the reasons, I think, for a lot of the confusion on on the names for Jesus and stuff like that is because one of the biggest schisms in the church was the divinity of Jesus. Whether he was divine, whether he was human, whether he was both, this created a lot of the problems in the early church and the Gnostics took advantage of that and wrote a lot of scripture that was based on what their feelings were about it and how you used the name. But if you use Jesus Christ, I think you're in good hands because you're basically doing something that's saying this is a unique Jesus, the anointed one, the savior, versus in some of these new translations now, that's one of the dastardly things that they do, is where it used to be Jesus Christ, they put Jesus. So now he's just a man.
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He's not Well, what about the letter j and the whole Jesuits bringing that in?
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Well, I don't that's more of an English thing than it is, I think, Jesuits. The Jesuits did plenty.
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But Well, what do you think about you do you think Jesus was in a scene?
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Well, the scenes were were extremely conservative, you might say. They thought the Sadducees and Sadducees Sadducees and the Pharisees were way too liberal. So to some extent, Jesus might have said that they're at least not contaminated in one place, but he was bringing in a whole new thinking that they probably wouldn't have accepted either because of their conservativeness. I don't believe Jesus was in the scene to answer your question.
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What about Nazarene?
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Well, he's from Nazareth. Right?
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What about you, Brent?
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The one second
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Go ahead. Didn't didn't didn't Glenn Campbell think he was in the scene since he hung with him?
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Who?
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Glenn Kimball. He was a Glenn Kimball. He was a researcher back in up until the early two thousands. He died back then. But he wrote, the childhood of Jesus, and there was another book or two that he did. And he was on Art Bell a lot.
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Glenn Campbell? Glenn Campbell? Oh, I've never heard of him.
[02:21:08] Unknown:
Yeah. I've got his book on that, Brent. And I thought you said Campbell, and I missed it too. Me too.
[02:21:15] Unknown:
I love Glenn Campbell. Oh, wow.
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Glenn Glenn Campbell was a drunk. Again. And I know some and I and I knew somebody that knew him very well.
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One of the dangerous sects were really the Nabataeans because they were sort of had one toe in Christianity and they're basically were the beginning of, Muslim religion.
[02:21:42] Unknown:
So Nabateans or Nicolaitians?
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Nabateans.
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Okay. I haven't heard of that. Well, thank you, folks.
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But if you if you watch that piece on the, the great bible hoax of 1881, I'd be interested in getting feedback on how you think what you think about it and whether their their view is is real or not.
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Is that a new one by Chris Pinto?
[02:22:17] Unknown:
No. That thing's at least four years old, and Paul found the old name of it. Today, they're calling it different names. And one that I sent to Roger, they wouldn't allow to go through in Ecuador.
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Wow.
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And I'm pretty sure Ecuador is pretty much under Jewish control.
[02:22:39] Unknown:
Well, I just remember I I watched Jesse with years ago. And, there was something about one of his his documentaries that that rubbed me the wrong way. And I it's just been too long. I can't remember.
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There was something about his perspective
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that rubbed me the wrong way. I just can't remember now. Does he does he yeah. Glenn Kimball
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was involved with the Colburn Bible.
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Oh, now that's big. Yeah. What are your thoughts on the Colbron? Samuel, do you have any,
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thoughts on that? No opinion on it at all.
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Yeah. I've been wanting to get one of those. James McCaney, really highly promotes that. But anyway well, I missed the show. Is it worth worth listening to the archives, guys? What was the main topic if there was one?
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David was good at the beginning with, the you know, he's with the national status info, and he was connecting Roger with what's her name, y'all? What's her name?
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And Vandersteel. Yep. Yep.
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He was connecting Roger with her? What do you mean?
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They're gonna have a interview.
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Yeah. Really? Yeah. Rob okay. Robbie? Yeah.
[02:24:18] Unknown:
So, it's me, Julie. So Hi. When when, Roger was on Kevin Hoyt's show, another listener posted a comment. I think it's Dave posted a comment in the comment section and Vandersteel read it and asked him to call her and left her number. So she is a national under, I believe, Bobby Lawrence. And I believe Anna Vaughn Wright just got hit with a $1,200,000 IRS bill. And so, what was I going to say? Anne Vandersteel is has studied under those three people who aren't doing this national status stuff correctly at all. And so make a long story short, Roger will be on Anne Vandersteel's show this coming Monday at Oh, that's exciting.
Yeah, 2PM central time. And, you know, so, you know, Anne Vandersteel follows Kevin Hoyt. Hoyt, I think, if I'm not mistaken, Kevin has actually been on Ann Vandersteel's show several times,
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about different topics and subjects. So anyway Okay. Two questions. How was the interview with Kevin Hoyt with Roger? Is that worth listening to?
[02:25:30] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's ex it's excellent. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's it's it's yeah. It's excellent. So go on, I can send you the link today. And so that's it. The rest of the show was me arguing with Roger about financial stuff, but, you know, I had I had to defend myself. My name was called out. So and then other people arguing that people were butting in, and, my name was called, so I had to say something, you know?
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Well, what do we Julie, what do we think about Anne Vandersteel?
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Well, I think Anne Vandersteel is a great reporter.
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You know? She isn't she isn't she isn't she somewhat misguided? Isn't she somewhat misguided?
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You know what? I've got no clue, but here's the deal. I think the more we can get Roger's show out on as much as possible, you know, the more, people can break free of the slavery they're in. So even, you know, you know how they That could be great. That could be great. So, Robbie, you know what they even see? They say bad publicity could be good publicity. Right, Brent?
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Yep. I know about a year and a half ago, Vandersteel was supposed to we would get on with Roger. And, all of a sudden, that fell through because she found, that Bobby Lawrence.
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Yeah. You know? And And Bobby Lawrence and then Bonnie. I think Bonnie is either David's wife or Yes. Bonnie's wife.
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And Yes. Is his wife still locked up? Is is she still locked up?
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My understanding is yes. My understanding is David passed away and his wife I can't remember her name. Bonnie, was that what her name is? Or Yeah. Bonnie. Yeah. My understanding is yes, but I I haven't verified it, for a while. Wow. But but he, Anne Vandersteel, I believe studied under, not David but, Bobby. But I know David and Bobby were super close friends. So,
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anyway. I don't know I don't know Bobby did you say Bobby Lawrence?
[02:27:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I took all of their classes, Robbie, before I found Roger, and I did nothing. Wow. It's just so confusing. I I I had no clue how to find Roger. And like I said, I have all of their materials, a a filing cabinet full of them.
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So Bobby Lawrence is his his work is, the same as David Strait?
[02:27:59] Unknown:
Pretty much. All those all that it's so complicated and convoluted and un unnecessary. The And they go they go way back into teaching stuff biblical and stuff about the Northwest Territories and all that stuff that, you know, it's helpful to have knowledge about that stuff. But at the end of the day, Roger teaches a much more streamlined course. Learn the fourteenth amendment. Get out of the fourteenth amendment. You're a national. Yeah. And then, you know but they take forever to teach this stuff. They I remember that, I had an opportunity to travel to Texas to go through a three day, you know, twelve hour seminar, each day, in Texas that I can go to.
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Good to you. I have a spidey sense, and I'm gonna make a prediction that nothing's gonna happen to Anna.
[02:28:52] Unknown:
Well
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I'll say this. Roger was easy to find. He found me.
[02:29:03] Unknown:
I don't know. You know, if you didn't rebut the presumption, the fourteenth amendment presumption, and I don't know what their paperwork entailed, but I do know that it was multiple, multiple pages of stuff to and I don't, you know, I don't remember exactly what the wording was on everything. I don't think I threw the stuff away. I think it's just sitting in a filing cabinet collecting dust in my in another room, but
[02:29:30] Unknown:
I don't know if they did that right. My only thing about Anne Vandersteel is her last name, Steele. I don't want her to get Roger on there and then steal Roger's information and go because she's more of the mainstream of the alternative movement. And so I just don't want her to, not give Roger the credit or so. I I just don't I I don't know about her. I've I've had questions about her.
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Yep. They know my stuff to do Roger stuff.
[02:30:03] Unknown:
Rob Robbie,
[02:30:07] Unknown:
there's tons of people out there right now who've already stolen all the stuff off the Matrix docs. I can tell you that for sure. That's true. Selling it, and they've created their own shows. So Yeah. In fact, I was I was a victim of that on and how I how I found Roger, I was the victim of that. So, I don't think it really I I I don't think Anne would do something like that to Roger. She's had Brent Johnson on multiple times, on her show, and she always promotes the people's websites and always promotes the phone numbers that are given out.
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And Well, he's a creep. Brent Johnson is a creep. He has to say Malcolm Baldwin.
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He's still out there, promoting all of he got a new radio show, and he's still out there promoting everything. And I get on his show on Tuesday evenings on his call, after it's over and relisten to it just because, you know, I I wanna be in the know. He Brent Johnson is actually extremely brilliant when it comes to knowledge about the, about the constitution. And I learned something from him, all the time. So but I don't agree with how he does this national stuff at all either. So he's in the same boat as Ann Vandersteel, Bobby Lawrence, and David Strait for me.
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Mhmm. And learn to stay away from him.
[02:31:28] Unknown:
Well I agree. Johnson Brent Johnson tells you to get rid of your Social Security number, and Brent Johnson, I don't agree with the way he does common law trusts. And he's been proven wrong by Mark multiple times, with Mark showing case law. So, but he's still very smart. He's extremely smart in certain areas. And so I I choose to listen to him. And while I'm listening to him, I multitask so that I'm not, you know, for lack of a better word, wasting all that time doing nothing. I don't know what other phrase to use, but, I mean, I'm telling you guys, Brent Johnson's but this is he's extremely smart. And I'll tell you something. There's another listener who calls in. In fact, you guys should listen to this last Tuesday evening's call. There's a guy by the name of John.
Nobody knows, who the thirteenth amendment citizens were more than, John and he challenges even, the case law Dred versus Scott. The definitions in there. He's and he's a listener who calls in all the time and talks about the Vikings and the indigenous people and all of that stuff. I find him fascinating. However, he's very condescending. He calls all of us, ignorant. And there's another adjective that's not nice. He calls us all ignorant somebody's and, I'm like, well, I'm probably one of them based on his definition and how he interprets this, but I don't appreciate the name calling. But it's fascinating to listen to the callers is all I'll say.
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Mhmm. Well, there's a lot of egos in this.
[02:33:19] Unknown:
Yep. And I think that, I think, like I said, any any exposure is good exposure. Like like Roger said, he had a horrible interview with Sarah Westall, and I know her. And, and yet he had the most people call in after his show on there wanting information from him. So Oh, I didn't think it was that bad. We shall see what happens, on Monday, but I think that That is exciting. I think he'll get a lot of traction now. And and and Steel Steel has been on the Alex Jones show. So maybe, like, you know, I told Roger, Kevin is very well connected. So he might not he only has, like, he's got two, I think, rumble channels. One with, like, a thousand something, another one, I think, with 10,000.
But he's connected with people. So with his mouth and everything and his he's on shows all the time. I think maybe, you know, we can we can spread all this information viral viral with a domino effect. One contact will lead to multiple contacts and vice versa.
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Well, thank you.
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I'll call you later on today, Ravi.
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Thank you.
[02:34:30] Unknown:
I have a question. You didn't you didn't follow-up your call from yesterday with me.
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I'm so sorry, Brent. I'm I'm gonna call you today too. I I I wasn't I wasn't but I wasn't but
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but hurt. Also, I'm getting ready for work. So
[02:34:46] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'll text you later, Brent. You know I love you, Brent. Yeah.
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I will call
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him. Julie, if you wouldn't mind, send me that link on Roger's, testimony as well.
[02:35:01] Unknown:
On his, on what do you mean? The link on, on on the show with, Kevin Hoyt? Hoyt. Yeah. Mhmm. Oh oh, yeah. I'll send that to you. Sure. Well, I'm I'm in I'm driving right now. When I get back today, I'll send that to you, Samuel.
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Thank you.
[02:35:16] Unknown:
I just actually clicked it open, Samuel. So and Julie. So I'll send it over to him Okay. If you don't mind, I mean. No. Thank you. Thank you.
[02:35:25] Unknown:
Thank you. Have you had a chance to take a look at that, piece on the bible yet?
[02:35:34] Unknown:
I think I have not.
[02:35:36] Unknown:
I think I sent you two versions, and it's not the eighteen eighty one title. So I'm gonna have to watch the eighteen eighty one now again and see how they differ in content, but they're all about the same length. Content is about the same. It's in different order. I think they did that because it was being censored. It's like when I when Roger said he couldn't get it in Ecuador when I sent it to him, I was like, maybe that's why it's so hard to find it in that old title of the great bible hoax of 1881, you know? So but it sounds like somebody captured it, and that's what, Paul found and posted.
But there's two different other titles that I know about. Content looks the same, though. So it's just Sami Paul? In a different order.
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And, Sammy, did you get the operation of law definition in Black's fourth for me yesterday?
[02:36:50] Unknown:
Yes. I did.
[02:36:51] Unknown:
Yes. I have a question.
[02:36:56] Unknown:
I have a question.
[02:36:57] Unknown:
The one you sent to me starts out the bridge to Babylon, but then it has the eighteen eleven and the title also.
[02:37:06] Unknown:
Yes. And that's got a little bit different, format. Should I say continuity than the other ones do? But it's all pretty much the same content. Just they get at it in a different sequence, the way it looks to me. Arguably true. And why they would do that? That's a lot of work. And why they would do they re edited it the way it looks. It's as far as I can tell now, three they have three different versions and three different titles.
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How about giving Shane the floor?
[02:37:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead.
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That's me? That's you. Alright. How do you think we can put this book in every everyone's hands? Clark and Soumaya's at school, classroom, book teaching. How do you think we we can do that?
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Just do it. Which which book is that, Shane?
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That's the, selling the sheriff. Oh.
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Tell them to surf. With her right now for a friend. Alright.
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Alrighty. That's what I'm trying to go for
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is the.
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And also the, web web,
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provider.
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Make it available on the Internet. Oh, yeah.
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I'm done.
[02:39:15] Unknown:
It's, all the Bible talk this morning. I think, one of the things we just can be really clear on what the law is and used to our advantage, is the way I opened, and I got this from Lex Mercatoria. Notice and demand challenging jurisdiction. Come now and let us reason together, spay the Lord. Isaiah one eighteen King James version. Then he references public law 97 to two eighty ninety six stat twelve eleven, quote the Bible. And there's some dots. The holy scriptures dots is the rock quote on which our republic rests. And then, end quote, and then articles of Confederation article two.
I think, you know, the Bible as a law book, where where we come down the whole theological deal and, you know, sola scriptura and all that, we come down to how in the law, like, for this group, how in the law we can agree. And that's how I opened, I followed his lead and opened that way. And, of course, we can also sign with witnesses and have witnesses sign two or three witnesses and reference that scripture as well in any of our documents. So I thought that was a good a good pull. And, I just wanna give an update so far. Day, Yeah. Day four of no notifications from Verizon.
Now after I sent in, the I sent in a further, basically notice and acceptance. So I notice and, acceptance and just, asking the question, you know, does the state register people, in conjunction with their with their sending a bill an invoice to me. And so and that and that invoice is not even in. It's in a former corporate, an old s corp that I had, but I know my Social Security number is attached to it. So this time, I reference my Social Security number as well as the birth certificate number. And, they had a note when I talked to Verizon. They did have a note, that the CEO had gotten the service of process, back in June. So just an update. They'll nothing conclusive yet, but I'll I'll keep you posted. Are you
[02:41:43] Unknown:
Did you tell him mute sofrock?
[02:41:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Whoever has the use of is use of.
[02:42:04] Unknown:
The whole whole thing of that bible, video that I'm recommending is the attempt of the Catholic church ultimately to show that the Bible is in error because when they started out they didn't let the common people read the Bible and when they found out that it disagreed with their theology, they would, kill you for having a bible, reading a bible, owning a bible. And when they couldn't do that anymore, you know, they had wars and stuff to crush it. And now their new tactic is just to throw so much suspicion on whether the translations are accurate or not, so that people have no foundation in their faith that it is accurate and has been kept true as God said he would keep it throughout time until the end of time.
But, you shouldn't be fooled in my opinion by what they have done with Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, I think they're both forgeries and that's what all the new translations are based on. Brent touched on a little bit, the end of Mark in these new translations is missing completely. That's just one thing of thousands. There's something like 3,000 errors or differences in just the four gospels between Vaticanus and Sinaiticus alone. Just the gospels. 3,000 differences. That's what they're using to translate the Bible. If you don't watch a piece like that, you'd never know.
[02:44:10] Unknown:
Well, some things are counterfeit or or ordinary, then it's pretty much a true cut or a copy of it. You know? It it's not erroneous, usually.
[02:44:28] Unknown:
Well, the original Greek texts don't have that problem. Those translations are are what they used in the King James version and the Geneva Bible, and they're still understood real well. That's why a lot of people are King James only today, and that's, I think, the proper point to take and really don't know why Brent doesn't have a problem with I don't understand. I guess maybe he just thinks it's easier to read in an NIV English version. That's the only thing I could see justifying it. But if you're reading the wrong thing, what good is the translation?
Whether you can understand the English part of it or not, you're being deceived in my opinion.
[02:45:21] Unknown:
When you deliberately mispronounce words all throughout a bunch of things in different languages and stuff, that's probably the problem right there.
[02:45:35] Unknown:
You know, when it says That's what catchy debut. That's the great thing about Greek is it's such a well understood language. That's why this Simonides character, he was at the time he was Greek, born Greek, had over 5,000 old scrolls in his collection, and he said he wrote Sinaiticus in 1840. And this was an argument in the London papers back and forth for four years. This wasn't just some little claim, but nobody would support him. Well a few people did if you watch that piece, But everybody who was going to push this new thing forward threw him under the bus, called him a forger and all these other things.
He certainly could have forged. He was that good. He was considered the best Greek scholar of his time. And it's written in Greek. Anyway, you gotta watch it to get a feeling for what it's all about. It's three hours long for a reason. There's that much content easily, and if you watch the other versions of it, there's even, you know, stuff that they edited in and out. Is obviously could have been a lot longer than that. Anyway, just stuff we should know, I think, you know. I mean, I'm happy I found I rolled into it because, otherwise, I wouldn't certainly know any difference. I mean, the the hardest thing for me to watch that is the people we trust in this country and in Europe to give us accurate translations didn't care whether they let were liars or not, Didn't care if they told the truth.
Didn't care whether that translation was accurate or not. They just didn't care. I don't know if it because they were making money or fame or whatever it was, but they're just despicable people.
[02:47:57] Unknown:
They're just full of bullshit.
[02:48:03] Unknown:
And and this is what's really scary about the whole thing is all these so called experts that back it either don't know or they do know and either one for to be a so called expert is inexcusable.
[02:48:31] Unknown:
Me and Gregory talked about experts last night. I think you know where we went.
[02:48:39] Unknown:
A leak under pressure?
[02:48:41] Unknown:
Yeah. An unknown drip under pressure.
[02:48:48] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:48:54] Unknown:
Yeah. A drip of what? That's the question.
[02:49:16] Unknown:
This was a very good day.
[02:49:22] Unknown:
It is certainly a beautiful day out here in rough and ready. Blue skies, no no contrails or chemtrails or I didn't even see a jet today. Beautiful.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
Brent, to your, to your Yousefruck question. I don't know if you're still there. Yeah. I am. One of the one of the whereas clauses I have in the first, first notice to them, which I sent about, ten days ago. Unless the county first acquires the requisite jurisdiction over this land, then you speak referring to the assessor or the appraiser or the county in turn have no jurisdiction to confer upon a court. Illustration purposes, at least one US territorial court concurs, and then it's a quote, the parties cannot even by stipulation confer jurisdiction upon a court where no jurisdiction exists. And then the therefore clauses, any forced order to collect taxes for me resulting in alleged attempt to seize this land by an alleged delinquent tax sale or other auction action is under threat to us, coercion, and is therefore repugnant to the unanimous declaration of 13 United States Of America, 07/04/1776 as the first organic law of The United States Of America.
If, therefore, the execution of such an order, judicial nature or otherwise, and this kind of refers to, like, nonjudicial states when they talk about mortgage, But here, I'm talking to the assessor. Constitutes an act of violence with no lawful juror justification. There's another territory of US Supreme Court quote. And then there's a therefore, clause as well. And what's what's interesting is the way this goes, the last statement for the proving the non jurisdiction basically state your failure or refusal present me with a hearing above demanded evidence. Also demonstrates, using false or misleading repossession of fact, the county willfully intended to ex exact unjust enrichment with past communications. That's any letter or bill or anything.
Two, Dick does and willfully continues to engage in a systematic ongoing course of conduct to exact property. Affirming, three, the county did, does, and continue to do the furtherance of the scheme, which is likely to cause confusion and thus deceive as to affiliation, connection, or association with the county as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of the county services or commercial activities. Therefore, the county did and continues to engage in scheme to defraud and therefore experience benefit of the bargain. And you did voluntary both communicate on behalf of the county and require use of retro easement, there's a magic word, for the county in this land cannot be able to use allegedly held in which account being the person's property.
So then that has a footnote, and this says over 50 footnotes for long for teaching, you know, the the public survey of d one. Quote one who has the right and informative use of fact. See you in for note 37. The duty the duties of the use of fact are one, to make an inventory of the things subject to use of fact in the presence of those having interest in them. Two, to give security for their restitution when the use of rock shall be an end. Three, to take good care of the being subject to use of rock. Four, to pay all taxes and claims which arise while the thing ends possession as a ground rent.
Five, to keep the thing in repair at his own expense. And then it quotes, some of the civil law in a state for life, use of refractory, and referring to Bouvier's, 1856. So it's a it's a powerful concept, and the idea here is to put them, with this, notice finishes with the covenant not to sue. So you're giving them consideration that you're not gonna unless they physically harm you, or the property, you're not gonna report them to the bar or, you know, some of the other things in the covenant not to sue is you're not gonna distress bonds. You're not gonna initiate suit.
And then you're stating as part of the, you're given the use of fructively care, which then they would they would be responsible. They're gonna get all the profit from this land because it's still gonna be on the tax roll, but they're gonna be paying taxes. So they're gonna be able to monetize that in whatever world they're working, you know, half a million dollar house, a million dollar house, whatever it is. You're gonna get that benefit of whatever they're passing on, you know, to their other things to get funding and all that for the state or the county or whatever. But they're also gonna be responsible for all the liabilities. So if there's a repair, if there's, you know, somebody files a claim on the property, stuff like that. So that's the idea of the of where the use of front is, that where that word is so important. Thank you.
Julie, if you're still on, I did find out something about them. Because I'm gonna be service serving the mortgage service the servicing company which we get the bill from. But then in the traveler's homeowners policy, it actually says the mortgagee name and address. So the promissory note, I think, is is, is tied to, the promissory note is tied to Rocket, but then the mortgagee name and address is Nationstar Mortgage LLC. So I don't know Springfield, Ohio. So I don't know if that's just, have to do the research if that's just the nomenclature for Rocket Mortgage, but pretty interesting. I don't know if anybody has mortgages or done any in-depth into that, but
[02:55:41] Unknown:
we'll
[02:56:12] Unknown:
Hey, George. Hope you're still there. Could you, define user truck again? I'm kinda slow on the up here.
[02:56:24] Unknown:
Sure. The and the site is from kinda back into ancient Roman law. So but it carries through. Look at that footnote again. There's there's five responsibilities basically of whoever is their user for actuary. But the use use of is the use of the fruits and also the disposal of disposal rights, would then go to what's called the naked owner. So, you see which and I should be able to do this off the top of my head. I'm learning too. So one thing, you know, it's one thing to send paperwork in, but it's another thing when you're in a situation to be able to defend it verbally. They call that the tribune. Right? Knowing the grammar, then knowing the logic, and then knowing the rhetoric of how to defend it.
But the in in the context of, the covenant not to sue and and assigning the use of fraud. Let's see where the first mention of it is, see if I can give it a more succinct description. Seven. So it's 42. Okay. The right of enjoying a thing, the property of which is vested in another, and to draw from the same all the profit, utility, and advantage which it may produce, provided it be without altering the substance of a thing. That's the first definition of use of fraud. Second is the obligation of not altering the substance of a thing, however, takes place only in the case of a complete use of fraud. So there's a you can be completely use of fraud. Then there's a third perfect usufruct.
And it's interesting. Louisiana law is the only one that uses usufruct, I guess, as a state because that's under the, probably under the Roman law still. We don't French Roman law. Perfect usufruct, which is of things which the usufructory can enjoy without altering their substance, Though their substance may be diminished or deteriorate naturally by time or by the use to which they are applied as a house, a piece of land, animals, furniture, and other movable effects. And that is a civil code of of, Lou I think it's King Louis article five twenty five.
Some of this is from one Brown civil law, Portra Du Douai, Isle Pan, so that it looks very ancient sites, but then comes through all the way to, Bouvier's institutes. And then use of fraud, civil law, Bouvier's, which is that definition which I said before, which is one who has the right enjoyment of a use of fraud. The duties of the use of fraud tree are, to make an inventory of things subject to the use of fraud in the presence of those having interest in them, due to give security for their restitution when the use of fraud shall be in hand for you to take good care of the things subject to the use of fraud. Four, to pay all taxes and claims which arise while the thing is in its possession as a ground rent. Five, to keep the thing repaired at its own expense.
And, that's actually user fluctuating. That's the the duties of them. But you can still pass, you can still pass the property on to to heirs. You could, you could you you know, if you wanted to use it as an Airbnb, you could still, you know, use it to to rent out. You can pass it on to others. Now the thing of it is when you go to sell it so what you're doing is you're saying you it's almost like a library book. You're saying the live the house is like a library book. I'm gonna rent it for a while. I'm gonna take it out, but then I'm gonna return it. So what I haven't found out is, like, how do I do convert this into con let's say I say I'm done using this house. I notify the county.
I wanna go use another house. You gotta just take care of the buying and selling. I'm not in commerce. I'm not part of your commercial world. It's like caveman do you remember caveman lawyer from selling live? Your world with its fax machines troubles me. It, it consumes me. So we don't wanna be consumed as consumers. So we say, you count it. You take care of all the listed, whatever you're gonna do. And I'm interested in this. And also here, they take care of all the financial thing in the background. You're basically just using another library book. Now you're gonna that house.
So that's kind of that's kind of the idea of what's what's behind the whole thing. So we're not into, like, making making Main Street into Wall Street like we have been, which is killing this country. I think it's a poi for a national to live personally, but how to operate like this, I do not know yet. I'm still still just testing the waters and really learning.
[03:01:34] Unknown:
Very interesting. What what I caught from it, your your voice is, very low, and and I didn't pretty much catch the last part. But from what I gleaned speak up. Yeah. It's primarily just the use or proper use of a product, a physical product. I'm Yes. Saying Mhmm.
[03:02:04] Unknown:
Mhmm. Like a library it's like a library book. You take that library book out. It's not yours. You don't own it, but you can use it. And then you bring it back. You know, you you you return it. So that was a real simple simple obviously, there is use you know, there's wear and tear and things that happen.
[03:02:25] Unknown:
Wouldn't you say that it really it it defines, the benefits and if any liabilities? George, I'm gonna send you Black's Law, excuse me, fourth edition about operation of law, and, I think it's pretty enlightening that that may be the law that's in operation. So, anyway, I found it interesting. Yeah. I just looked it up yesterday. Trying to get my email to work, and I'll forward that.
[03:03:05] Unknown:
Did you send that to me too?
[03:03:08] Unknown:
Oh, I just texted it to Samuel because he was the one that brought it up. But I'll put it in an email, to the regulars.
[03:03:16] Unknown:
So Or you or you can text it to me, whatever you like.
[03:03:21] Unknown:
Oh, okay. The last sentence is very enlightening. Mhmm. Right. Hold on.
[03:03:31] Unknown:
Well, enlighten us, please, if you don't mind.
[03:03:36] Unknown:
I'm in suspense.
[03:03:38] Unknown:
Okay. Well, hold on. I've gotta pull it up in the text because I screenshotted it. Well, maybe I still have it here on my computer.
[03:03:47] Unknown:
I'm a wigwam. I'm a teepee. Okay. Got you. You're two tenths.
[03:03:54] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on. My computer's slow. Operation of law, Black's Fourth. This term expresses the manner in which rights and sometimes liabilities devolve upon a person by the mere application to the particular transaction of the established rules of law without the act or cooperation of the party himself.
[03:04:31] Unknown:
There you go. Because they're doing that all the time, like, based on the status. Right? But presumption and everything. So that's well said.
[03:04:48] Unknown:
I was made aware, the other night that Black Spitz has a a preface, and it states due to changes in language, vocabulary. I can't remember exactly how it stated, but it's, a warning. Everything after the fourth, I would say, I wouldn't use.
[03:05:12] Unknown:
Oh, well, Sherry, could you please read that again? I'm sorry.
[03:05:17] Unknown:
Hold on. Gotta get back to my computer.
[03:05:21] Unknown:
I think the Supreme Court is only using BDAs as far as the five o, like the American 1856.
[03:05:28] Unknown:
Right. I should I should look it up there too. This term, operation of law, expresses the manner in which rights and sometimes liabilities devolve upon a person by the mere application to the particular transaction of the established rules of law without the act or cooperation of the party himself. And so that was, when you were reading the definitions of usapruct, and sometimes liabilities. That wasn't so in every, definition, the three that you gave, the perfect, the first one, the second, and the third, which was the perfect. And I believe it was the first one you spoke of that there aren't necessarily liabilities as a part of that.
I yield.
[03:06:54] Unknown:
Well, if you, damage the library book, you would be liable to repair or replace it is what I'm gleaning from that.
[03:07:10] Unknown:
Correct. You you do the alpaca on your your car. Right? Your house? Anyway, it's just interesting. I don't know how it intertwines, but I think, Samuel, a few days ago at the beginning of the week, had brought up about operation of law. And I just looked into it yesterday, and, it could be a sand trap. I don't know. But I think being, looked at through the scope of the use of trucks, I think, is, importance being said someone brought up on the after call the other day about, the Catholics having a a vicar or some head over every county or state via the court system ideals.
And maybe that is why the courts use Bouvier's. I don't know. Well, always more questions than answers. I yield.
[03:08:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Like, what law are they referring to? There's so many man made laws, or are they referring to, the common law of nature? One is subjective, and the other one is objective.
[03:09:00] Unknown:
Correct. Well, you know, it's always the subjective one. That means it's man's. That way they can use it at their whim or not. I I yield.
[03:09:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And then it's like every every little judge has got his own interpretation of it. And like Humpty Dumpty, you know, the word means what I say it means. And that might change in the next breath. So, yeah, that's a quandary.
[03:09:55] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. Is Julie or and Robbie on here? Bill? Julie and Robbie? I was just gonna ask. Was it Julie or Robbie that said they learned something from that man about the constitution. I can't remember his Brent, somebody, not our BB Brent, but the other Brent that was Robbie or Julie said they learned something from him about the constitution. And I was one I'd like to know what if they can remember something they learned.
[03:10:49] Unknown:
Yeah, Joan. I see him. Can you hear me?
[03:10:53] Unknown:
Can you can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I'm driving, and so I don't have everything in front of me. But, Brent Johnson just knows a lot about all these amendments as well and, and the ones that weren't passed and went and he knows a lot about the public law and all the administrative things and stuff that, Roger talks about. And, but I I can't recall off the top of my head right now. I'm driving and distracted right now with traffic.
[03:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Julie.
[03:11:28] Unknown:
Welcome.
[03:11:34] Unknown:
Hey, BB Brent Bachman. Can you can you talk for a second?
[03:11:41] Unknown:
Alright. For a second.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
How did Roger find how did Roger find you? That was interesting.
[03:11:51] Unknown:
I went to a gun show over in South Atlanta, and he was at a table Yeah. That we engaged.
[03:12:04] Unknown:
Alright. And is that the first time you heard the message or the first time he heard the message or something like that
[03:12:17] Unknown:
or what? No. He he invited me to their meeting and then a couple of meetings into it that I went to, that's when he launched into that.
[03:12:29] Unknown:
Alright. Thanks, Brent.
[03:12:53] Unknown:
Just a little follow-up on that whole definition too, but I'm about why I think it's worthy of study. And I haven't seen many people talking about that word. Is, the fellow that was mentioning he was talking to an attorney about it, and I forget that level of a if he was a said guy or what, but or, you know, like, what what he was as a lawyer. But he said, he said, oh, yeah. He told me he's fucked. He said, oh, yeah. And the lawyer said, I was are you talking to a lot of people about that? He said, no. I just have a small, you know, small website. And, the guy said it's probably better that way.
So I was like, it's gotta be a lot of times they just kinda give you a little hint, like the movie National Treasure, where they talk about the declaration. And, anyway, I thought that was that was kind of an interesting testimony.
[03:14:08] Unknown:
Now I am no expert on Bouvier's or blacks, but it seems to me Bouvier's only deals with definitions of words where blacks has, phrases. I yield. But I must say that, the words that come up when you do operation of law in quotes, BBA's definition, the words that come up, Release. Let me see what was the other one. It was so important. Hopefully, I saved it. Where'd it go? The letter e effect. The operation of a law of an agreement or an act is called its effect. Anyway and then r, which was release, releaser, and, it goes into speaks about operation of law. I I'm anyway, it's really quite interesting.
And they use, the law presumes in consequence of some act of the releaser. For instance, when one of the several joint obligors is expressly released, the others are also. Found that interesting. I mean, the application of these things is, the most important part. But even finding out, what they mean by the term operation of law. And as, Daryl would say in Alabama, whose law and what law? So I yield.
[03:16:16] Unknown:
May I, Paul if Paul's there, did Paul post the interview with Kevin Hoyt with Roger anywhere, or is he going to? Is Paul there?
[03:16:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Is it on thematrix.com? Hello. Hello.
[03:16:50] Unknown:
I mean, I'd be surprised if Paul wasn't going to post that, somewhere. I don't know. I guess he's not around.
[03:16:59] Unknown:
Robbie, he said he was gonna post it after, Kevin, had posted it and had a day or or so for his listeners to take it in. That was my understanding of it that Paul had gave last week. And he go ahead.
[03:17:19] Unknown:
Alrighty then. Thank you. Hi, Sherry.
[03:17:25] Unknown:
Hi. And I would think Pod Home would have it, and it was supposed to be twenty four, forty eight hours after Kevin had posted it himself. So I'm not sure what link Julie is sending, if it's from Kevin's podcast, which would mean Paul may have already, made that available. But I don't know. I haven't looked. I yield I'm not familiar with Pod Home yet. So It's pretty straightforward. It's on the matrix docs, the link to it, and the most current things are up top. Okay. Thank you.
[03:18:09] Unknown:
And you can record, the stuff. You can download it to your hard drive.
[03:18:15] Unknown:
Yes. He did. He did post it.
[03:18:22] Unknown:
Yeah. This operation of a law thing, the reason I brought that up is because and what we still need is a a copy of these refusal letters that we get from either Mrs. Robinson or the Department of State refuting it. They they put the exemption in there as if it's by operation of law. We need I'd like to see that exact wording. Somebody could send me one of those. But and so that's your exemption from what they're stating, right? So but in Brode's declaration of independence, he's using as what you want to get out of because it's all these contracts that you'd never really agreed to that are operating by law because you don't even know about them.
So
[03:19:14] Unknown:
And is you subtract the operation of law that they're referring to, which puts, any argument or declaration you have moot is my comprehension of what, George has brought forward. And they make it sound like it's a benefit to you in that letter, like there's another law that's operating that they have no control over. Do you see what I'm saying?
[03:19:44] Unknown:
The old Bauvier's definition is more common law. It's basically it's obligation of law is its its practical working effect, you know?
[03:19:57] Unknown:
Well, I Like I couldn't find phrases. Test
[03:20:00] Unknown:
date. If you die in test date, it goes to your error. Well, we can sort of throw that out these days too. It's not automatic. It's so it it can be used it it's being used in the modern sense. It's very different than it was back in in Boviers.
[03:20:17] Unknown:
Well, Boviers, I didn't find any phrases. Just words.
[03:20:23] Unknown:
Well, operations. In there. No operational. It's got phrases in here.
[03:20:28] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I would just did a quick search. I think I have Bouvier's downloaded on my laptop. I just haven't went into there. So are you old?
[03:20:41] Unknown:
It's loaded with phrases. So where I think the trick is in in that that refusal letter isn't what we think it is, or we shouldn't assume that we know what it is. Roger's assuming that it's basic law that is ancient is the operation of law when the common, current term is just the opposite.
[03:21:40] Unknown:
Dialectic.
[03:21:46] Unknown:
Yeah. And that would make it sort of a trap if you're I think if if I was given that letter, the first thing I'd have to ask the party sending it is what is their definition of operation of law, and how is that an exemption, what you're stating?
[03:22:08] Unknown:
And what law are they operating under? And to define every single word, actually, because if you can't comprehend what you're saying without, the proper definitions that you can, comprehend. And that's another trap is the language is how they perverted it. And and Brent and I were talking about this last night as far as, you know, our kids being taught a language down the same, but had different meanings in that part of the, divide and conquer.
[03:22:51] Unknown:
Well, if you just look at the context of us sending them an affidavit and then refusing it except under operation law that begins to tell you that they're up to no good and should not be trusted?
[03:23:08] Unknown:
I think that we participate in more presumptions and equivocations than what we realize.
[03:23:17] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Getting out of this the brainwashing we've been given all our lives doesn't happen overnight.
[03:23:29] Unknown:
It's a process, but it's a process worth traversing on. The path of truth is narrow, but well worth it, most gratifying.
[03:23:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So I think if we we we stick to, our creator and biblical law, we'd be better served in in the status that we're selecting. That's why the Catholic church has to throw that document, the Bible, under the bus.
[03:24:26] Unknown:
Well, they helped created it. Did they not? I mean No. K.
[03:24:34] Unknown:
They made up their own doctrine, and then when it got out what the book really said, that's what created the reformation, Gregory. That's what no. Like, you were talking about this conquistadors. These weren't Jesus like people. These were Catholics. A big difference.
[03:25:03] Unknown:
Oh, I see that.
[03:25:05] Unknown:
Well, Catholic, wouldn't it just be another word for Romans pretty much.
[03:25:13] Unknown:
Really what it means is universal, and that's what they're really going for. They wanna be the new world religion. They wanna appeal to everybody, not what the book says. They're trying to make the book palatable through different translations so that everybody can just get along.
[03:25:38] Unknown:
I don't know. If I I got cut off, so I'm not talking about Verizon too much. I sent the Papal Nuncio, which is the Holy See's office in Washington, DC, the last copy of the acceptance in honor of the invoice and the birth certificate and indemnified name. So just so that because I think it is just a governmental organization, you know, the the Nevada kind. So I think, you know, there's three three levels of of spirituality. There's, you know, somebody that note notice, and there's somebody that actually accepts, and then there's someone who has a fiduciary duty to it that has the trust and the faith. You know? So I think there's a lot of levels to that. And one of the levels with noticing is just, you know, the two kingdoms. Right? You got this temporal kingdom as well as the eternal kingdom.
Temporal kingdom is allowed by god just the same way as the eternal kingdom is in a hill.
[03:26:38] Unknown:
Well, all of the reformers to a man considered the papacy and the Vatican, nothing more than the beast in
[03:26:50] Unknown:
Revelations. Right. And I'm not sure about that interpretation. I mean, there's there's a lot about those revolutionaries, and some call them reformers, some call them revolutionaries. But, yeah, it's a there's I think there's probably two sides to to every coin that way. No. Those guys were actually reading what it said in the Bible, which didn't fit the theology
[03:27:12] Unknown:
of the Pope, that's what the Reformation was about. Most of these guys were Catholics first and realized they've been lied to when they got translations of what the book really said. That's why those translations have to be destroyed or made look to make look like they are in error because they're pointing directly at the church as being an imposter. Right. What what what's that video that Paul posted today, the the great bible hoax of 1881? You get a feel for how important this is.
[03:28:09] Unknown:
But I think you can't you can't say that you can't ignore in law what I'm talking to. I don't care about, like, faith right now, if you will, quote unquote, guys, good good faith and credit. You know? Like, what does that mean in the governmental context, and what does that mean in conjunction with who's controlling the resources of the land, presumably or not? You know? But that's who you that's who your appeal is going to is my is my point. Whether it's the beast or not, it's the system that's allowed on on the earth, and god makes the evil man for the day of evil. You know? So
[03:28:42] Unknown:
Well, there's always gonna be that counterfeit. You can always count on that, and it's being careful not to get drawn into the counterfeit and go with the original.
[03:28:55] Unknown:
Yes. And bills bills and FRNs are definitely counterfeit.
[03:29:06] Unknown:
Almost everything is on the planet. That's why it's so hard to discern a lot of this stuff. That was to give you a choice.
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Yes.
[03:29:23] Unknown:
Is that not following the father's jurisdictional, requirement, free will? You can do whatever you want as long as they agree to it. I yield.
[03:29:42] Unknown:
Oh,
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I don't know how many times Jesus says it, but he says it's plenty. Do not be deceived.
[03:30:01] Unknown:
That's a lot easier said than done because we were deceived as soon as, we came out, and our folks were deceived, and their folks were deceived. And we're living a lie unless you open your eye and refuse it. The thing you got to
[03:30:25] Unknown:
that quick where that phrase, Gregory, comes in, come out of her.
[03:30:34] Unknown:
May I speak to the, difference in the words between faith and trust? I think that is, valuable. And it's interesting that you brought that forth, the full faith and credit. That just occurred to me. But trusting trusting in the almighty means that you turn to him with everything. You just don't have faith that he's gonna tend to things, whereas that word faith does. You know? You just believe. So trust is way different, more encompassing than the word faith. I yield. And I might add what goes with trust is obedience, and that's, an important factor that we have to keep in mind as well.
[03:31:41] Unknown:
Yes. I concur. Obedience to the real, not the man made poopy, but and it's very simple for me. I got to make it simple because I'm only working with one brain cell. You know? So, do no harm. And I'm talking about harming any anything, really. Trying to stay in balance with the creation, the creator, and all the, all the natural things in life. I'm trying to preserve life because I see that they're trying to destroy it. They're evil, and that's that's the battle.
[03:32:31] Unknown:
Gregory, I think it would behoove you if you quit stopped being self deprecating. You have more than one brain cell, and all of us on this call know that.
[03:32:46] Unknown:
So Now now, Sherry. If I wanna make fun of my better. If I wanna make fun of my brain cell, by golly, I'm going to. I've been trying to get rid of that creator for a long time, and I just can't seem to drink it away.
[03:33:05] Unknown:
I raise you half a brain cell. We're all, compared to our creator, have less than one brain cell. So that's where faith comes in because a lot of these mysteries are so fantastic that you sort of need faith to believe, but there's plenty evidence also out there for those who care to find it.
[03:33:37] Unknown:
I have a comment, guys. What do you think about scripture? Script. It's an script. You know? It just may believe, like, the Muslim, like, the Catholics. You know what's good and what's bad in your heart. Nobody has to tell you white kids die when they do something wrong because they know in their heart they did something wrong. Their mother, their father don't have to tell them because God wrote everything in her heart. You know, even if the bible is messed with, they could change the words. You have a spirit relationship with God, and he could guide you. That's why you're supposed to pray before you read the bible or before you do anything.
When your day start, you're supposed to pray to God and thank him for everything that he give you. That was my comment, guys.
[03:34:38] Unknown:
Thank you, Boy. That was very well put. Yeah. It's should be done with every action praying to our creator and noticing our creator being in that spiritual realm and not so focused on the materialistic that's out there and all the distractions. But, Man, the distractions are getting more and more prevalent as as I go on.
[03:35:19] Unknown:
Yeah. And people say, oh, they're gonna put them, you know, like the mark of the devil, the the devil system. That's been here for more than two thousand years since the beginning he's trying to put his system, you know. You can say, oh, tomorrow they're gonna bring something. That's the system of the devil. No. This is the war of the devil. He's the god of this earth, but he don't got free range. He do whatever god wants him to do. Because let me tell you something. I was another believer. I stopped believing when my family killed my real mother, you know?
And God opened my eyes. And I find a lot of stuff, and I find you too, guys, you know? Like, they make you believe the we are a little spec of dust in space. Space is not even real. Space is all made believe, you know. You cannot have a vacuum and have fire explosion in a vacuum. It's impossible. You know? That program is really, really, really they take us from three years old, four years old, and they put that stuff in our heads. Even our parents, because they are in the same boat. But, you know, like, I I hear you guys ask Reuters questions because you kind of in doubt.
But, you know, you should in doubt the creator
[03:37:09] Unknown:
because
[03:37:12] Unknown:
he never gonna fail you. He never gonna lie to you, and he's always there for you. We are the ones that there. We are the ones missing, not him. I hear you, guys. Thank you for letting me express myself. I love it. I love it here.
[03:37:35] Unknown:
One of the one of the big reasons with, with the problems with the Catholic religion is Jesus clearly said that you only get to the father through me. The Catholic religion says you get there through the probe, through Mary, through a priest. And it's by good works. Well it's not. And when they were found out for that, the reformers were against of it. Now these same reformers or the people of our day are going along with the Catholic church. That's really
[03:38:12] Unknown:
bothers me. Do you see that building? Do you see that building? It's a snake. The pope where the pope sit where the pope sit down is in the mouth of the snake. It's it's all the ball. The ball. The demons. All demons, you know. That's why the Catholic church is so weak. Because they're not praising Jesus. They're not praising God. Well, they're praising their own God. They got many saints. They pray to the virgin, you know. And Jesus tells you, you say it right there. You come to my father only through me. And you are Jesus. I am Jesus. We are Jesus.
[03:39:05] Unknown:
Ari. Jesus. Hey, Boris.
[03:39:10] Unknown:
What's up, John? Hey, Boris. I just may I ask how how did your family kill your real mother?
[03:39:19] Unknown:
Well, you know, with all these, poisoning that they do in my mom was, like, 60, and she has Alzheimer's. And she started losing her, you know, her chances. She don't know who she who she was. And my sister, take her to Boston. My mother used to live with me. But she, you know, she wasn't in jail. I give her free rides. She could go and come whatever she wants. But she decided that she wanna go with my little sister, you know, because that was her her main, you know, she she was the little one. But they don't take care of her, you know. They a person they seek me care.
And if you don't love someone you're not gonna care about it. And my sister took her to Boston and put her in a old people home, you know. And, she got sick from her kidneys, and she don't wanna do chemotherapy. She don't wanna do that stuff. She say it hurts too much, and they let her die with they give her morphine and they let her die. They don't give her chemotherapy or nothing. And when I got to Boston, all my brothers tell me they had to sign a paper to kill my mom. You know? I'm sorry guys.
[03:41:04] Unknown:
I'm sorry, Barry.
[03:41:06] Unknown:
No. It's fine. It's fine. And I tell them no. I don't wanna do that. My mom is my mom, and I don't wanna let sign nothing to kill her because I don't want her to die. Why they don't give her medical attention? And they saying there was nothing to do. You know how they are in those places when they take you, you know? They don't care about you. They just care about your insurance and your money, you know? And, you know, I stopped believing in God because, how my mom died. You know?
[03:41:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So she was she was 67?
[03:41:58] Unknown:
She was young? Like no. She was 54, 53 years old. She was young, you know. But I remember, you know, this lifestyle is how you live your life, you know. You live a good life, you be fine. But when you go to the doctor every six months and you do all these, you know, they kill you. They give you twenty thousand pills and a bunch of stuff. Then you don't even need? It makes you more dumb than you are.
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Yeah.
[03:42:56] Unknown:
Yeah. And I would This is a test, Jones. This is a test, and we have to be strong because that's why it's a test. Because they're gonna prove you to see how you how strong you are.
[03:43:11] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[03:43:13] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[03:43:14] Unknown:
Yeah. It's definitely a test. In fact, some have, when they present the birth certificate in court matters, they went to peace with the attorney general's office. They asked the attorney general because, basically, they're coming to attacking you on that person if they did a person, if you will, that entity. So you get the attorney general to defend The United States to defend the state. So that was pretty interesting. So it's a it is a test, and it comes down to good faith and knowing what to have faith and what not to have faith in.
[03:43:50] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:43:54] Unknown:
Thank you, Bori.
[03:44:04] Unknown:
Thank you, guys. Thank you. Like, you don't know how much I love here. Everybody that's here is is a special person, special being. You know, it's hard to talk to people. I don't talk to nobody anymore. I used to, but not anymore. I don't even got we have physical friends anymore because it's not worth it. You know? It's not. I my only friend is my my cat. She's my my real friend. You are my family, guys. We are nationals. We we learning the truth. You know? I don't think this is about, you know, filling up a paper. It's about knowing the truth and and, you know, knowing that all this is, an spiritual battle, you know. It's nothing physical.
People are scared to die, but when they die, they they go to the next level. Energy never dies. That's why you're scared to die. You have to confront your fears and make a relationship with your creator because none of this is real. This is all frequency, all created. You create your own reality. K. You guys think the government is the solution? Hell no. Not even how hard you could go real hard for anybody. They all the same. They put the the enemies and the friends. They put both of them right there for you to choose for one. You know, last election, it was 51 of the candidates for presidency.
Do you hear about any of those? No. Nobody heard about them. And it was public. You know? They just show you whatever they wanna show you, Donald Trump and Kamala. Like, Arbor pipe tell you, when the people need a hero, we're gonna put a hero for them. What the FBI do? They penetrate all the organizations. It doesn't matter if you just sell lifestyle. They infiltrate you. They they govern government. The word tell you, the various message. They govern your mind. They wanna be there to know what you're saying, what you're doing. That's the devil because the devil cannot be in every place all the time.
But with technology, he's been doing it. You got your phone. You got your TV. You know, he's there watching you with technology. He cannot be in physical phone there, but he's there. And we have to go in Minions.
[03:48:13] Unknown:
Hey, Bori. Have you ever heard of I m as in Mary, b as in boy, d as in dog? IMBD Or it could be IMBD. Yes. And go and search, the cast calls for, AOC. That these are all characters. Dan Bongino.
[03:48:38] Unknown:
Yeah. And you she she don't live in the Bronx. She she's from, from Uptown New York, from a rich city.
[03:48:47] Unknown:
Right. Which goes back to your script that you were speaking of early on.
[03:48:52] Unknown:
Your side. It's crazy. You know? It's all created for art.
[03:48:59] Unknown:
To keep us busy and and not worrying about what they're doing. To keep us entertained and, think that somebody's doing something about something, and therefore, we don't have to. I yield. And back to the scripts. That is what where they what they use to, give us the choice. They tell us what they're doing, and, they that's their informed consent. And we don't take it as such, but it fits the parameters of doing so. I yield.
[03:49:54] Unknown:
Yes. We cosign their bullshit.
[03:50:01] Unknown:
And which state why you do it?
[03:50:08] Unknown:
Alright. That's why we surrender the, birth certificate both both birth certificates. Probably one is a credit, one's a debit. If you have two in your state, I know we have a in Delaware, we had a live birth certificate or a certificate of live birth and then a birth certificate. So surrender them and basically turn the interest over to different interests that they have in those or that you have in those and turn those interests, into the definition that you have, not letting them be presumed by the state. Thank you.
[03:51:03] Unknown:
Sorry. I don't really understand that. Can you please elaborate?
[03:51:11] Unknown:
At the state is making presumptions not only in your status as a national or citizen, but also based on the financials, which every court case is basically just a financial deal even if it's criminal. But, obviously, there are common law crimes still. But everything else, you know, the courts a bank. And so, you can surrender your birth certificate or you can bring it into a court and show them, hey. This is a turnover. Any interest that I have to you with this guy here, it's a different guy. It's not you. But they use that, of course, to create DLs and everything else in in the law. So you can surrender, the certificates because it's an indemnification when they took when they when they made the banking acts and turned everybody into a walking piece of real estate.
They took the acts of God of birth, marriage, everything else, took those acts and turned them into something they could certificate and hypothecate and put liens on or whatever they're doing. Who cares? Fact is at law, like Sherry read earlier, at law, they've defined something unless we rebut that presumption. They're gonna keep presuming on it. So that that was the that was the idea that, that's something I'm personally working on now. And, I think it's it's complimentary to national status, cleans up a lot of stuff economically that we haven't unless we're using unless we're using silver and gold, you know, and trading with each other, everybody's in some kind of commerce including the the tax they put on your head or the tax they put on the land yield.
[03:52:49] Unknown:
Hey, George. Have you heard about the CRIS, c r I s, Court Registry Investment System? And that's where all the judges get their retirement from. So, they invest any, court fees, fines that you owe that you haven't quite paid yet that goes into that system. Also one other thing they have upped it a notch and they have turned it into a patentable mode of operation. They have it's under patent and trademarks now. And so when you go into court, it's a method. It's a system that they use that's been patented. And so the court doesn't even necessarily know or have the jurisdiction in which to hear the matter. But most people do not realize that they have patented the processes that they've used to streamline them, of course, ideal.
[03:53:56] Unknown:
George, are you at all worried about surrendering your birth certificate? And, I'm I'm worried that they may claim your assets that were created under that birth certificate as not yours anymore.
[03:54:17] Unknown:
Well, they can, they can make the claim to the assets, but also they have all the liabilities. So I'm not worried about the assets because I think but but you're you're exactly right. Do you if you don't handle the use of frupt the correct way, if you don't assign the interests the right way, use of fraud can work against you. So you have to do it the right way. So in that sense, yes, you're you're correct in that. But remember also, they'll have all the liabilities. That's that's the idea. But anything that you would have in life, you know, that would be a requirement. You're basically basically stating to them based on their system that they have. They they offered a peace offering.
And part of the egg as well as the Libri code say you gotta take care of the inhabitants that are there. So think of yourself kind of on an Indian reservation.
[03:55:35] Unknown:
Where did you hear about, signing over your birth certificate to the court? Is that something hand of unrights or is that something you found from a group or how did you hear about that?
[03:56:01] Unknown:
They're using the birth certificate on a court situation, and then in engaging the attorney general to defend you would be, that that's from Boris's study group. So, there's a telegram, which I'm actually, I just got a burner phone, so I'll be joining that. So some of his testimonies and recordings in conjunction with other people, guy in Hawaii, that had done that. So, yeah, I don't I'm not familiar with rights or other groups.
[03:56:41] Unknown:
So is this for normal US citizens, or is this for US nationals? I'm sorry. Foreign nationals.
[03:56:53] Unknown:
I think anyone can can do it, because everyone most likely has a birth certificate if, you know, there might be some people that are stateless or whatever. But, I think the birth certificate based on, you know, the the takeover, civil war, and the banking act, and then the kind of recreating The United States as gonna be kind of the new Roman Empire with the all the world wars and 800 bases across the the world. My sense is that the birth certificate is an indemnification for the inhabitants to to use as a, as a peace offering. So I think it not necessarily that we you know, I don't know if their securities there's probably leans on it and all that. That's some stuff on how you would how you'd live your life. But, regardless of all that, I would, you know, I would guess that it's because they they really named people as, you know, as the the the land as they they it would be in it would be involuntary servitude if they didn't provide a remedy to to take care of, of the inhabitants that are that are here.
So it would be it'd be basically, you know, you use the s word. But it's we're really not slaves. We're really just we just don't know enough how to use it, I think. And I think that's the that's what but it's but I think it's there there for a reason. So but, you know, again, I haven't I've only heard testimonies of these folks. I haven't done all these things myself. So what I'm trying first is some of the handling some of the bills, and then I'm gonna try with the territorial jurisdiction challenge, handle the assessor, and handling the mortgage company, things like that. So but I'm still waiting on all my, stuff from secretary of state US because I wanna put everything into the county with the with the depositional affidavit that, does the surrender and assigns the interest in the right way.
[03:59:09] Unknown:
So it sounds extra constitutional.
[03:59:16] Unknown:
Yes. It's very constitutional because the constitution was basically put in place for commerce. So it's kinda like a long you know, because really we just needed the articles of Confederation, but then they had to well, then they had to they because they had territories, they had to come up with territorial jurisdiction. So that's where that arose. You know, Washington was kind of the governor of these new territories, like the Minnesota territory or whatever. So that territorial jurisdiction is still there, and they use that a lot. Unless you challenge that, they presume you into that territorial jurisdiction for your land or whatever.
So that's what I've learned so far. And then, of course, after the the Northwest ordinances was the constitution. So none of these other laws went away. They just got kinda built on. And then, of course, you had the Reconstruction Acts and they changed the constitution with the fourteenth amendment and all that. But, you know, the you're basically telling them with all these things, hey. Look. I'm, I'm not asking you the question. You're telling the the public service. I'm not asking you the question the public debt because they can't. They're fourteenth amendment citizens, and you can't do that as per the fourteenth. So I'm telling them deal deal with this bill, you know, to reduce the public debt.
Deal with this bill. You have the you have the ability. I accept it in honor. I'm going to peace with you. Go and do what you do in the background. I'm not fine filling out any IRS forms. I'm not doing any of that stuff. They know how to I'm not an accountant. I'm not an IRS agent. They do that stuff. So it's very constitutional in that way, I think. Because, of course, the IRS is basically, there's only what? Two constitutional, quote, unquote, income taxes. So, yeah, I think it's I think it's very it's very on point. It fits right with nationality. I I think, you know, it's good to have a passport card that says this, and it's good to say I'm free to go.
But, you know, if, if we can't, if we can't distinguish what that officer is trying to do, which is he's trying to take your birth certificate name and create something from it. Right. Create a bond, whatever they do in the background. If we can't, challenge that, I think, you know, it's, it's, we've got kind of, a a limitation on our not challenge it, but but go to peace with it. We're we're not we're not challenging. We're really going to peace with it. Challenge the territory or jurisdiction is a way to go to peace as well because we're not part of of their territory. We're on we're still on the state.
[04:01:55] Unknown:
George?
[04:01:59] Unknown:
Yes.
[04:02:01] Unknown:
Have have you ever read Brose's whole piece and, how he looks at the constitution?
[04:02:09] Unknown:
The two the two different, definitions into the chart?
[04:02:15] Unknown:
That one? Well, there's just there's the chart support what he's talking about in there. And, you know, he even uses the term a territory and the territory as differences. Mhmm. And he's got the I think from what I hear you say, you might get some other clues if you read Broust's piece, USA, the Republic that nobody lives in because he sits on some of these things as there's two constitutions working side by side consecutively. And the problem with the the big problems in his opinion, like, Rogers recited Corrales, he he doesn't use that analogy, but history recited canal or or or holding pen for us is the fourteenth amendment, the loss of the gold, and the, Swift versus Tyson going away.
He said that's how they got control. And he gets into the territories, in a way that I mean, he's basically saying, one of the reasons in fact, in fact, I think he states it now. Sometimes I get him and the book of the hundreds cross connected, but I'm pretty sure Broost also says that, the the constitution was actually held in secret because they were trying to hide from England what they were actually up to in creating this sort of new document that they didn't wanna give them a heads up on of what it was really trying to do. So there's there's you know, everybody, of course, from, like, the Gaddy side of the world wants to to say they were up to no good, which they probably also were that as well. But the some of the secrecy might have been for that reason as well.
Because it's the first thing that, Luther or Luther Martin objected to. He got there late. He realized they were doing it in secret, and he objected to that immediately. And he ended up leaving because he also could tell that they weren't there to amend the articles of confederation. They were there to bring in a whole new document. But a lot of times, you know, we have a tendency to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and there's little nuggets that we need to hold on to about what people are really trying to do regardless of their motives, sometimes.
I mean, I I will see the hand of God in a lot of this stuff. They may had an agenda, but you can count on God had one too.
[04:05:36] Unknown:
No doubt. And and I will, actually, I printed out that, that booklet, so I will revisit that. And, you know, I think I think it was, I think you were the first one that brought that up too to to to my attention was, you know, just like multiple designs within the constitution. And, I think it's it is ultimately the act of God. Right? Everything everything is the act of God.
[04:06:01] Unknown:
So all our challenges and everything. Right? So I'm pretty much sure it's I need to reread it myself, because your opinions when you're reading something, if you're not aware of certain things, you'll just read over them and they'll just not be there. Right? And Burroughs is sort of making the point that this document is meant to allow the people at the time to be in under the protections of the constitution and that contract or outside of it and to contract outside of it. And to be able to flip flop whenever they feel it it suits their needs as long as it's not harming another person.
Right? But we lost that because now we've got we're out if we're not if we're fourteenth amendment citizens, we're always contracting with the federal government holding our hand. We can never get out of it. Or that didn't used to be the case, but they laid two tracks. You could go down one or the other, and they basically eliminated one with those three major things according to Bros, the gold standard, the fourteenth amendment, and the commerce clause of the, Slick versus Tyson.
[04:07:32] Unknown:
Mhmm. And that's kind of the idea is like, okay, the birth certificate, if you will, is that is that United States. It is The United States citizen. It is that persona or whatever. And using the constitution that way, like, what is what is the constitution protect? And what does the attorney general, if it's a state item, which we still have an interest in, you know, and that's where we can assign interest with it. And I don't know if he gets into the gets into the birth certificate at all in that document, but,
[04:08:03] Unknown:
I think He doesn't he doesn't really do it that way, but he he says after the fourteenth amendment, your will was probated at birth. And that you need to calls call that back. That's what his declaration of independence is about. And that's where he uses by operation of law as being your enemy because that's exactly what happened at the fourteenth amendment. It's the way I read it anyway. And that's what bothers me if they're refusing us, like, if it's missus Robinson or the state department refusing one of us with an affidavit and making the alternative or the exemption, by operation of law, what the hell are they saying to us?
I think it's a trap myself. I think we should at least be aware of it and investigate it. And when we get letters like that, we need to call them out on it and verify it. What does it mean? Why are you directing me here as an exemption? Are you trying to tell me something, or are you trying to entrap me?
[04:09:17] Unknown:
Right. Who are you? What do you want? And why should I care? Just to to quote to quote Bart. He he uses why the f should I care? Yeah. Basically, it's it's three things, you know, because rebut any presumption. Proof of claim, you know, proof of claim with it with whatever you're writing that you didn't even sign. Did she even sign it right? So
[04:09:38] Unknown:
Well, I I still wanna get my hands on one of those. I'd like to get both. I'd like to get a missus Robinson, and I'd like to get a one from the the state department. Because according to Roger, there's there's two. At least two letters. So we and those should be scrutinized. And we should have a response letter that doesn't just rebut their presumption. We should rebut their wording and what they mean by it. Because, you know, if you if if you don't if you don't attack a presumption, it becomes the fact. And that's simply might be what they're up to there.
[04:10:27] Unknown:
Samuel, I believe the two letters, one is from the state department, missus Robinson, and the other is from the IRS. I think those are the two. And, I think Paul said the other day that his missus Robinson letter, he had up on the website.
[04:10:49] Unknown:
So Well, if somebody can send me copies of those, I'd and if you have my email, that's probably the best way because then I can send it to my printer and have it printed out.
[04:10:59] Unknown:
No. Samuel, I don't think I have your email, but if you text it to me, that would be great. I yield.
[04:11:05] Unknown:
Because that by operation of law is what is what Prost is using in his declaration of end independence to set himself free, and missus Robinson is using it as your exemption for what her statements are except by operational law. I just think there's something stinks about that.
[04:11:32] Unknown:
Is she real, or is she from Paul Simon's missus Robinson's song?
[04:11:38] Unknown:
Probably closer associated to, Cuckoo Cuckoo. Yes. And, you know, just be all you have to do is consider the source. Right? I mean, these people are not out there to help us out.
[04:11:56] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:11:58] Unknown:
Truly, when they're refusing your affidavit. Right?
[04:12:03] Unknown:
Yep.
[04:12:05] Unknown:
Anyway, I'll leave it at that. That's yeah. If I can get a copy of those sometime later today, I'll, I'll get you my, my email. I'd like to get my hands on those too. And I don't think does the IRS use the term as well? Oh, yeah. Or Oh, yeah. By by operation of law? Okay. That's interesting. So, you got two people who are really trying to help you out. So to speak.
[04:13:42] Unknown:
Now I did, find an interesting article. I don't think it was, it was from a different source. It's an affidavit, use of military rule, state of Maine, county of Cumberland. Comes now David Robinson, the natural living flesh and blood man. A peaceful American on the land under oath who states, when the representatives of Southern states walked out of congress, seceding from the union at the start of the civil war, and congress adjourns seen die. Abraham Lincoln as commander in chief of the army of the republic under military rule ordered government to continue order according to the statutes of the newly established labor code article 31, which states the victorious army appropriates all public money, seizes all public movable property until further direction by its government, and sequesters for its own benefit or of that of its government all the revenues of real property belonging to the hostile government or nation.
The title of such real property remains in abeyance during military occupation and until the conquest is made. Complete. Article 31. In other words, Lincoln's army took exclusive possession of all public money in the US Treasury, seized the title to all public movable property, and set apart in a common trust all the revenues of the real property of state governments for the army's benefit and the benefit of The United States. The titles to such real property have remained in suspension or banes during the military occupation of The United States and remain so today until peace is declared. And to the property owners who did not flee the state, the commanding officer gave receipts to ensure that the plundered owners would be indemnified.
Private property, quote, unless forfeited by crimes or by offenses of the owner, can be seized only by way of military necessity for the support of other benefit or other benefit of the army or of The United States part 38 of the legal code. We call this part of the legal code the usufruct clause. Why? Because usufruct is the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from property owned by someone else. Use the front. The right of enjoying the thing, the property of which is vested in another and to draw from the same all the profit, utility, and advantage which it may produce, provided that it be without altering the substance of the thing. So who has the conditional right in this case? Who has the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from something that someone else owns, provided that it be without altering the substance of the thing? Lincoln's army had the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from the property that it sees from the people through conquest.
To the victor goes the spoils. Eusifractory, the one who has the right and enjoyment of it in usufruct. The five duties of the usufructory according to the rules of usufruct in the labor code are, one, to make an inventory of the things subject to the use of the act in the presence of those having an interest in them. Two, to give security for the restitution when the use of the act shall be at an end. Three, to take good care of the things subject to the use of the act. Four, to pay all taxes and claims which arise while the thing is in his possession as a ground rent. Five, to keep the thing in repair at his own expense. Now many of you who read this will begin to ask, okay. This is all well and good for the so called United States. But what about the rest of us? Have no fear. The engineers of the system also thought of the rest rest of us, which why they had a little convention in a place called The Hague in nineteen o seven. From that convention came article 55, which states, the occupying state shall be regarded only as administrator and use of fracture of public buildings, real estate, forest, and agricultural states belonging to the hostile state and situated in the occupied country. It must safeguard the capital of these properties and minister to them in accordance with the rules of Euspra.
That's the end of article 55, The Hague. Article 38 of the Libra code acknowledges that the occupational forces have a corresponding duty not alter the lands or the producers of the fruit upon which it needs to survive. This is how the Romans were able to conquer the world. They knew that if the lands were raped and torn asunder, all the ability to produce what the army needed, the army was doomed. So it would only take the excess for its needs and allow the lands and its inhabitants to keep what they needed to keep producing so the army would not starve to being so far away from, quote, home. Lincoln's army is the use of factory that had the right to use, enjoy, and benefit from what it seized from the public, provided that it be without altering the substance of the thing.
According to the rules of use of fraud and the labor code, the five duties do and remain. Military government must make an inventory of the people's property subject to the use of fraud in the presence of those of an interest in them. Must publish that inventory list to all those concerned. Two, the military government must give security for the restitution of people's property. At the end of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the use of the fact. Military government must pay all taxes and debt claims. Military government must maintain the people's property. Basically, that's a restating of those five. Do not all roads lead to Rome? Quote, it was nice of them to include us within the confines of this war.
But how is the rest of the world included? Could it be that wherever the IMF, US Treasury, Fed Reserve, intervenes with a bailout, the system is then implemented? Why else would they, quote, be in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan? I'll bet if you look at history, you will find that IMF had loaned or given them some sort of assistance. Now everyone can participate in the perfection that is the system, quote. You also note that also security and birth certificates fall in the Department of Commerce and Agriculture agricultural states. Do you really think that was by accident?
The birth certificate trust that the federal government created when I was born is a public vessel in commerce and identifies the fictional person that is used by giving my given name as part of the federal municipal trust. It's a Roman inferior SESTAKV trust created by the secretary of the treasury of Puerto Rico, the bankruptcy receiver of The United States Of America Incorporated, the failed government services corporation chartered in Delaware by the Roman Catholic church. As a result of the acts of this US bankruptcy trustee, all living Americans have been declared dead presumed to be lost at sea on the sea of commerce. Furthermore, they're infants.
All living Americans are classified oh, here he goes. At the internal revenue manual, r m 21Dot7 dot 13 dot 3 dot two dot three as, quote, infant decedents as infants who have died. So we notify the IRS of our correct status as being alive instead of an infant decedent and assign all our reversionary interest in the Social Security trust state two and four of The United States for title 12 USC 95 a two and twelve USC 95 b for full quittance and discharge of all our debts. We're free of IRS control. This is a remedy guaranteed to us as a result. Congress issuing fiat debt notes based upon our labor instead of real money of account based on silver and gold because the vast majority of us never agreed to this new deal. We retain the full right of ownership to claim to our assets. We are we are owed the revenue return of our property without signing away any of our prerogatives and rights. This peace offer from the criminals running the US Congress is only a means of the perpetuate perpetuators or crimes to avoid the consequences of their acts by presumably and tacitly securing our consent and a presumptive commercial contract allowing their abuse and our own enslavement to continue. United States Of America minor never had any right to create the John Quincy Public Trust, all caps, in the first place. So all assets of Roman inferior SESTAKV trust revert to the entitlement holder and must be returned to the entitlement holder, revenued, free of debt, and encumbrances accumulated by any false trustees or secondary beneficiaries.
Once it is clear that we are living Americans are not agreeing to act as incorporated things, all members of the Bar Association are obligated by the very treaty that allows their presence on American soil to lend aid and assistance to us, and the military forces are obligated to come to our defense. So unless you work for the Puerto Rican Commonwealth and hope to be paid by them, you better do what's right. The John Quincy public, all caps, Social Security trust was created by the Social Security Act of 1935 and says what it says. The trust is coercive, bogus, and based on fraud, unfunded except by labor and contributions of its victim. General order 100 articles thirty one and thirty eight holding title in abeyance in the labor code. All property is held in abeyance including the baby born on the battlefield and the income stream from that asset. The Department of Defense takes the property and trust to hold in abeyance and safekeeping.
Issuance of indemnification receipt, Libri code 38, meaning the birth certificate. As peaceful civil civilian inhabitants, we are indemnified from any cost and damage resulting from the action of the US army. Only peaceful living inhabitants of the domestic and organic states have the civil authority to command the armed forces of the United States of America Republic. Only we can require the US Congress and the president of a government services corporation under contract to serve us to quit their criminal shenanigans or be ousted like vermin chased from a storehouse.
All others, by accepting citizenship of the corporate United States, have given up their right to say anything whatsoever to the armed forces of our American Republic. So that was really interesting. That's David Robinson. I don't know if he's still alive. He's from Brunswick, Maine. Subscribed to and sworn to before God, Titus one two, the December. That's his affidavit. Sorry.
[04:23:23] Unknown:
Can you post that in the chat? Is that something you can do?
[04:23:29] Unknown:
Interesting.
[04:23:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I let me see. I can, actually, I'm on a computer. I'm never on, so I'll I think I have that shortcut. And I will I have this printed out, but I'm sure if I, you know, I'm back, I could find find it. So it might might take me a minute. If not, I can email you a link. Let me see. Yeah.
[04:23:53] Unknown:
Yes. We Oh, would would you agree that, that is essentially what Brost is saying in his declaration of independence?
[04:24:03] Unknown:
Yes. From what I read of yeah. This is such a simple statement, what he has in his declaration of independence. Yes.
[04:24:10] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I think you're gonna find some jewels of what you're looking into in his treatise. It's not that long. It it it it's it's a it's challenging for me to when I originally read it, and I had to read it several times, especially certain areas over and over again to really start to get it. But I I think it's worth it, Because I think you're gonna find those same answers that you're looking for reinforced there and maybe just give you a little different way of saying it and clues to what the reality of it really are. You know what I'm saying?
[04:25:00] Unknown:
Yes. I think his writing is very helpful for sure. In fact, I printed that out. I think I not sure if I even went to Staples to print, but I definitely is that the one that no. Actually, the other one, and then I I never took I took it to Brazil, I think, and read it. And then I filed it. So I'll I'll reread it, though.
[04:25:20] Unknown:
Samuel, doesn't stroll. George, I requested you email that to me, if you wouldn't mind. And, Samuel, doesn't that speak to directly the Libra code in the military code as to how our courts operate? I just think it's really profound what you just read. And who did he file that affidavit with? Do you know, George? Who did he send it to? File it in court? What? Do you know?
[04:25:51] Unknown:
I sent it off. Maybe his website. He does not have he just has it as state of Maine County Cumberland, so he probably put it into the county. I would assume that maybe he copied. But I don't have any c c's on here of him, but he did he gave his email so he could be contacted. Now he signs, David Everett Robinson, comma, FENT authorized representative, comma, attorney in fact in behalf of and then all the caps name, comma, ends. So, again, that two the two people. You know? Mhmm.
[04:26:31] Unknown:
Hey. Real quick. Off the subject. But on the subject, I sent a copy of an audio copy of to a lot of you, and, it'll give you more into what's going on. But you can download it to your hard drive, I yield.
[04:26:57] Unknown:
Yes. All the same issues. Exactly. Yep.
[04:27:02] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. History repeats. Right. But they're they're put forth in detail and, the operation of law that they're using for you to come out of. I think that is an important distinction to put forward. Shoot. Kinda lost my train of thought. I know. That's
[04:27:21] Unknown:
basically, what Frost is doing in his declaration of independence is he's, he's saying, no. I don't want anything more to do with the re democracy. I wanna be back into the republic, and I'm refuting all your operations of law. As having any power and effect over me as a member of the republic.
[04:27:51] Unknown:
No doubt. That's the common man's language. I yield, Brent.
[04:27:57] Unknown:
You should hear what Adolf has to say. Dude was in-depth. Now I kinda know why they didn't want us to read it and discouraged it and what have you over the years. And this is my first time hearing it. I'm about four hours into it, and it is very deep.
[04:28:24] Unknown:
Wren, have you seen the what document?
[04:28:27] Unknown:
A fine call.
[04:28:29] Unknown:
Oh. Hitler's Another great clue at what he thought about America was when he declared war on us. That speech is now available in English as well.
[04:28:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Brent, have you seen, the diary entry that JFK made regarding Hitler?
[04:28:49] Unknown:
Yes.
[04:28:51] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Just making sure that he had a foregone respect for the man. I yield.
[04:28:59] Unknown:
Mhmm. Well, he visited him, I think, in '62.
[04:29:06] Unknown:
In Argentina?
[04:29:08] Unknown:
Yep. I never heard that. Keeper. Yeah. I had I had neither till about maybe a year or six months ago. He made some trip down here to see him.
[04:29:28] Unknown:
Well, Harry Cooper did say that, all presidents from, I believe, I Eisenhower forward went to Argentina, a yield. So in that regard, I don't see why, Kennedy wouldn't be the same. And I wonder if his diary entry, I believe it does precede his presidency. So I, yeah, it would make sense that JFK went to Argentina. Hi, Yield.
[04:30:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it was in 1946 that he, made that entry, if I remember correctly.
[04:30:18] Unknown:
That seems about right. But with Hitler, just like with anybody else who has knowledge and wisdom, they buy them off, and it seems that everybody has a prize. You know? Here, there's some pockets of things. It's go away, and don't tell anybody.
[04:30:49] Unknown:
Well, I think Hitler was kinda like, what was that? There was a, black civil rights guy in Atlanta, and he said, I'm unbossed and unbought. And Hitler was unbossed and unbought, I think.
[04:31:11] Unknown:
Until the end. Look what he left for Germany to endure after he hopped a plane to Argentina. That's all I'm saying. There's no imperfect
[04:31:24] Unknown:
Well, he he didn't do it willingly. They knocked him out and kidnapped him.
[04:31:35] Unknown:
I hadn't heard that.
[04:31:37] Unknown:
Yeah. He wasn't a willing participant.
[04:31:42] Unknown:
Okay.
[04:31:44] Unknown:
But afterwards perspective. Well, afterwards, I I think he was grateful they did it. I think he was caught up in the moment of my country's about to get taken out, and I am too.
[04:32:12] Unknown:
I think the chances of him being a bit of a pawn were also potentially there. I mean, he was pretty tight with the Catholic church, which probably stabbed him back. He supposedly loved the organization of the Jesuit order and used that for the SS. But there's so much written on him, and you can bury anything you want or accentuate anything you want. Sort of like Lincoln. You know? Where's the man all bad or all good? You know? He really looked like a rotten SOB to me, but Hitler is even, I think, even more hidden.
[04:33:05] Unknown:
Well, on, you're saying it was set up like the Jesuits or the Jew suits. Yeah. They had Jews in there. Oh, yeah. In the SS.
[04:33:18] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. In the regular army as well. Like, this all of this stuff about him being anti Semitic is is who he hated these people who are undermining his country, which were part of that tribe. But, in general, I mean, I think they had over a 100,000, I think, partially Jewish people in the army right on up to general. So I think his bodyguard as well as his chauffeur were both Jewish. People very close to him were Jewish. So you know? But like I said, they wanna, you know, it's it's either all all or not, you know, anything, and it's just people aren't like that. You know? And they change in time as they see things and understand things. Maybe they understand they were duped or trapped and changed course. You know? I mean, that thing was going on a lot longer before we even got involved in it. You know?
[04:34:30] Unknown:
Awesome.
[04:34:31] Unknown:
And it was definitely France and England trying to get rid of them as competition. It was the same thing they were doing in World War one.
[04:34:39] Unknown:
Right. Commerce. Germany.
[04:34:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Commerce. Well, my It all had to do with commerce. I yield.
[04:34:47] Unknown:
And Mein Kampf, at our, at the two hour and fifty two minute mark is when he starts on the Jews, and he breaks it down from his first noticing them to it's like these are vile people. You know, he's just peeling the onion layers back and telling you what he bought of them and what he can and he finally gets to. I became anti Semitic.
[04:35:25] Unknown:
Unfortunately, he sent them to, to Palestine, and I wish he would have gotten Madagascar going with them. I would have put them a little bit more out of touch, especially with things like oil fields and such And religion. I would have put the caboose in the old religion thing too.
[04:35:50] Unknown:
They would I think they would have found a way to start some shit, some kind of way.
[04:35:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, at least they would have been on the island.
[04:35:59] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:36:01] Unknown:
Because you could say that about England too, which they took over, but, you know.
[04:36:05] Unknown:
And you got the nuclear buffer.
[04:36:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. They're definitely God's chosen people, and their their god ain't wearing white.
[04:37:05] Unknown:
What is the website to post? Let me see. To post that. I don't think I have it open anymore. Somebody's asking me about posting, the article that I read.
[04:37:21] Unknown:
Oh, well, I think he was wanting you to post it in free conference call, but you're not in that, are you, George? Aren't you in by phone?
[04:37:29] Unknown:
But there is I I am in front of a computer, so I could if I knew the website. Yep.
[04:37:36] Unknown:
Number two, Radio Ranch. Radio
[04:37:40] Unknown:
okay. Chat 210 go?
[04:37:43] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[04:37:44] Unknown:
Yep. Okay.
[04:37:46] Unknown:
Alright. I'm gonna put that back to the 10 go. Yeah. That's what he said, Brent. K. But I think that stays up there for, like, thirty or sixty, possibly ninety days. Not really sure how far back it goes.
[04:37:59] Unknown:
It depends on still as much stuff gets put in as to whether it scrolls off.
[04:38:07] Unknown:
I can email If you're on the if
[04:38:09] Unknown:
you're on a computer, you can, go into the free conference call app or onto the website at least and then get in, put it in a chat. Okay.
[04:38:29] Unknown:
Okay. I just posted I think I just posted it. Okay. I just posted it twice. I see. Okay. And then, Sherry, you want me to email it to you?
[04:38:37] Unknown:
Yes, please. And thank you for doing this, George. Appreciate you. No worries.
[04:38:41] Unknown:
No worries. Yeah. Let's see.
[04:38:48] Unknown:
Hey, Sherry. If you do redundancy, if you could email me, that'd be great.
[04:38:55] Unknown:
I will.
[04:38:56] Unknown:
I think it's the first link in this. This is day I think David Robinson. He 2014, I think he was 79. So I don't know if he's still with us, but his website's still up. It's a WordPress one. So I'm gonna respond to you. Sherry, I got your you sent me. Oh, okay. We got it right here. Okay. Good. Yes. Dave Robinson. Yes. This is Robinson.
[04:39:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Another Robinson. Right? That's pretty funny. I just got that. Okay.
[04:39:29] Unknown:
Alright. So, Sherry, I just sent you that. Yep.
[04:39:35] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll you, Brent, when I get in. And, Robbie,
[04:39:44] Unknown:
Hi there, Sherry. Are you posting as Ida George? Yes. Okay. Thanks.
[04:39:51] Unknown:
I think I have a thing on it. I just never post. I think I do have a membership on it, but I don't
[04:39:55] Unknown:
remember what it was. That that works. Yeah. You just if you're in there for a while, you might get kicked out. You know, if you don't post something, that's that's the reason to have, an account. But, yeah, your your things will stay there like Brent said until it scrolls away to Tel Aviv or wherever.
[04:40:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Right?
[04:40:13] Unknown:
I do a mobile ring.
[04:40:18] Unknown:
But that was so funny. After all my Verizon talk, then then I was getting cut off the off the show because I think texts were coming into me, you know. So if I get a text, I get an old phone, it'll it'll, drop me. But he but David Robinson also has another one. All debts are prepaid. I think I bought his broke up on Amazon. And he he's got an article that I just I think I just Googled that one, but it's pretty good. It's it's, looks like it's six page, just looking at banks differently. He's got he's got some interesting thoughts there. Yeah.
[04:41:11] Unknown:
So that popped up in a Yandex search that set it's on, says, did you know all debts are prepaid? And this is straw man money credit. All one word, strawmanmoneycredit.com. David Robinson.
[04:41:29] Unknown:
Did somebody put that link in the in the chat here?
[04:41:32] Unknown:
In the free conference call?
[04:41:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That was, not for the book, but for what, George was talk or Gary I'm sorry. George was talking about earlier with the affidavit he read.
[04:41:47] Unknown:
I think I just need Yeah. I think the one in the Radio Ranch is the same one, and I think I got in a little too late to be able to get this one in the free conference call, I think.
[04:41:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Let me see. Yeah. I posted that one, that article that you were asking about, the use of military rule. It's the first I don't know if you saw Ida there that that was I think I posted it twice by accident, but I don't know if you saw that.
[04:42:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll pick it up in Sketch just Sketch just put it in, I think.
[04:42:31] Unknown:
It Yeah. The free fruits, though.
[04:42:36] Unknown:
Yep. Thank you, Sketch.
[04:42:39] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[04:42:40] Unknown:
Thank you.
[04:43:16] Unknown:
Hey, Murr. You missed an after show last night. Me and Gregory were talking for probably about three hours.
[04:43:26] Unknown:
Really? Yeah. I I was thinking about going over there and and, I don't know. I I think I just fell asleep, moved to bed. But yeah. So how what what went on? Oh, we just
[04:43:41] Unknown:
talked and talked and talked about everything.
[04:43:45] Unknown:
Uh-huh. That's fun to do.
[04:43:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I actually got some of the hard work done yesterday.
[04:44:00] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Yeah. Whenever you look at this stuff about Hitler, it always says he fled, and he escaped. And and that's even in the title of the book, but, actually, Borman had them both drugged. And, they weren't gonna leave the bunker. They were they were, you know, they were gonna die, you know, because that's Yeah. They had seen committed. They had seen what happened to Mussolini and their people. And they strung them up at the gas station upside down to corpses. And they weren't about to have that on the German people. And to blame everything on him, on that one man. Look what he did to Germany. Excuse me?
Excuse me? What he did, they loved. That's why they Mhmm. Come out. That's why they demonize him to this day. That's the that's the thing I really have against Jews. Come on. Come clean. You're too smart for this. We know you're not
[04:45:01] Unknown:
Had you read Nein Kampf yet? Or I haven't yet. No. You did? Oh, oh, you've all you've never read it before?
[04:45:09] Unknown:
I haven't read it. I I do I've, you know, bits and pieces here and there, but I haven't read the whole thing.
[04:45:15] Unknown:
Oh, okay. All I'd ever heard until you know, was, you quoting, you know, what he had to say about them and their profanity and everything. But, at, at the two hour fifty two minute mark is when he starts off. And he he goes on for quite a bit, and it is in detail.
[04:45:43] Unknown:
Good. Yeah. I think it's chapter four.
[04:45:51] Unknown:
In the in the audiobook, it's, hour it's, two hour fifty two minutes. Mhmm. And and it's a twin it's near a twenty hour book. It's, like, nineteen hours and fifty some minutes.
[04:46:07] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. I I, bought a prime copy of it up years ago, and I was blown away when I I I just got the audiobook. I didn't buy the book. But Why? Yeah. It was makes Yeah. I found a a lot of valid points. That's for sure. I mean, it's
[04:46:33] Unknown:
Yep. Well, that's why they don't want us to read
[04:46:37] Unknown:
it. Yeah. It means my struggle. You know? People make a big deal. Oh, I guess what else is on this Yandex search for that article of, Robinson's, a YouTube with a chaya shalom reading the article. I guess it's a Jewish, it looks like.
[04:47:11] Unknown:
They'll all get the voice inflection wrong so you hear it the way they want you to hear it.
[04:47:20] Unknown:
Well, all debts are prepaid. Jews would be interested in that, wouldn't they now?
[04:47:29] Unknown:
Yeah. But they don't get any Jews who are out of it.
[04:47:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Whenever there there were, any kind of drifting, anything from the government, they're in there first. They, was it just called defamation? The, movie. It was a young Jewish guy that went around filming all this stuff and, the blacks in New York, you know, that they were talking to, and they were saying how, you know, that that was one of the things they they said. How, if there was anything being given out from the government, the Jews were in there first, making sure they got it. Cracked me up.
[04:48:15] Unknown:
Except the trough.
[04:48:18] Unknown:
Wink bae. Trademark. No one dare laugh at Jewish jokes when they're the butt of the joke. That's that's, sacrilegious.
[04:48:52] Unknown:
Oh, real quick. That alteration shop that's closing down here, well, since she's moving to Texas, her brother-in-law isn't going to move here now, and there is a lot of stuff up for grabs out of their storage unit.
[04:49:13] Unknown:
Oh, cool.
[04:49:15] Unknown:
Yeah. They, got a group text, and they put me in it, and that's what the plan of the day is now. And also, there's about four Juki, that's j u k I, sewing machines. They're in, I would say, excellent condition because the guy with the, decedent was a, a mechanical engineer. So he do have to take care of shit.
[04:49:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you met, Susie from Pennsylvania when you were in Alabama. Right?
[04:49:51] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[04:49:52] Unknown:
Well, she does alterations and stuff. Her mother did it, but she had a stroke. And, I think it's her yeah. It's her brother's dry cleaning business, and she does, you know, does all the alterations now.
[04:50:04] Unknown:
Oh, well, getting the machine from Boulder City out to PA. Be a bit much.
[04:50:13] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. And she probably doesn't even need it. I just thought about the there.
[04:50:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he had extra machines in case something went down, and, I guess he got good buys on them.
[04:50:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, they've got the equipment. You know? It's just her mother that had the stroke and can't do it now. So and she had done stuff like that before, but, when I first, started talking with her, knew of her she was doing a a different job, and and the boss was basically, you know, had all the trust in her. But she went around to different how was it, different, was it laundromats? Different places where she had to collect the coins and stuff, I guess.
[04:50:58] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[04:51:00] Unknown:
I think that's what she said she was doing.
[04:51:03] Unknown:
You know? And she just change in Alabama.
[04:51:06] Unknown:
Something like that. I'm not sure just how it all worked, but she was very totally trusted. You know? It was a black guy who was her boss, I believe.
[04:51:24] Unknown:
Yeah. My father owned a laundromat one time, but he'd have somebody, you know, there so that they could be off. And, he wasn't getting the coin that he knew that was there, you know?
[04:51:41] Unknown:
Yeah. And it might not just been laundromats. It might have been something with the coin machines where it should refill them too with tokens or coins or something. I don't know what
[04:51:54] Unknown:
Probably the change machine.
[04:51:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Something like that.
[04:52:00] Unknown:
Well, I'm over in Boulder City now, so, you know, some of my friends. Yep. Yep. It's Monday.
[04:52:10] Unknown:
Well, I heard you guys talking. I couldn't resist. Oh, and and the bit with Hitler, you know, they took him down there, and it wasn't by submarine. He had claustrophobia. And, you know, some, like, say that it it but the planes that article that I posted has a picture of the plane, the type of plane. There were only three made and two that were finished, I guess, that they used. But, it says Paraguay is where he landed at night, but I think it was actually Uruguay. They landed in the middle of the night, but there were people living there that heard it and remembered.
[04:53:14] Unknown:
Murr, did you ever see that documentary on, World War two? It was on YouTube. I forget what it's called, but Roger refers to it on a show. It's like a 10 part series or a nine part series. But that's Europa. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
[04:53:37] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. And definitely gotta see the first one. If nothing else, it's a little over an hour. But, yeah, I've watched all of them, and it really leaves a mark on you. Yeah. Very interesting. You find them on BitChute.
[04:53:58] Unknown:
You took them down. I'm not no. I don't know. But I would assume they did because it was several years ago that I found it. Oh, who took them down?
[04:54:07] Unknown:
I would think that you I I don't think they would be on YouTube now. Well, no. You broke up. That's that's what I thought you were saying. But, yeah, they're on BitChute. You can find them on BitChute. I think. Let me go look now. And if I find them, I'll put them in the tatango.
[04:54:31] Unknown:
It's on VK also,
[04:54:34] Unknown:
the Russian You guys are gonna have to tell me how to get to Shatango. I don't know how to get there.
[04:54:38] Unknown:
Okay. That's, numeral two.
[04:54:41] Unknown:
Is this a website?
[04:54:43] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a chat room, but it is a website. It's numeral two radio ranch, you know, all one word, no spaces or capitals or anything. Numeral2radioranch.chatango or chatandgo, chatango,.com. Yep.
[04:55:11] Unknown:
Ah, I got it. Thank you very much. Mhmm. I'll save it. Yeah. And it's a free,
[04:55:16] Unknown:
account if you wanna get an account. That way, you know, it it actually, if you have a one shatango account, you can get into any of the shatangos. And I have, like,
[04:55:29] Unknown:
a I had it saved on my old phone. I got a new phone, and then all my stuff went away. So I had to I'm building my, bookmarks.
[04:55:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:55:44] Unknown:
Thank you, mom.
[04:55:48] Unknown:
Yep. Can you please repeat the address again?
[04:55:51] Unknown:
Sure. Numeral 2 Radio Ranch Dot Chitango Dot Com. So that's numeral two and then radio ranch, all lowercase, one word.
[04:56:04] Unknown:
Thank you.
[04:56:05] Unknown:
Yeah. You got it? Okay.
[04:56:11] Unknown:
The link is also on the matrixdocs.com.
[04:56:19] Unknown:
Yeah. It is linked there. Yep. There's one Paul put up too, and he made me a, moderator on it, but nobody uses it.
[04:58:45] Unknown:
Is there someone here?
[04:58:49] Unknown:
Welcome here.
[04:58:52] Unknown:
Thanks.
[04:59:34] Unknown:
Yeah. The full euro, Europa documentary is twelve hours twenty two minutes and fifty four seconds.
[04:59:45] Unknown:
Yeah. They have they have I I watched all of them. I think the the first five the first five were very informative. And and and then when it kinda when it kinda got to the last couple hours, it was I think they ran out of material. It was kind of a lot of fluff. But the first five hours are just really, really exciting to watch. That was a huge project. Yeah. Really. Is it on BitChute?
[05:00:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Page Chronicles is the one I'm putting in the Chateango. There. It's in there.
[05:00:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I sent it to a buddy of mine a couple years ago. I said, hey. You should watch this. And he called me back a couple hours later, and he was, like, in tears. Yeah. He was he was really
[05:01:06] Unknown:
he was really I mean, it It tears you up if you didn't know this. Yeah. I mean, even if you did, it tears you up.
[05:01:15] Unknown:
Yeah.
[05:01:17] Unknown:
I'll just put I'm gonna put this search I did at the it shoot because there's couple other ones I have just about the same amount of time. So my one might be better than the other.
[05:01:39] Unknown:
Ever thought about putting it on Rumble?
[05:01:46] Unknown:
Somebody might have. I don't have an account. Well, I just have an account to, to participate in chats in Rumble, which I don't I have one in BitChute too, but I don't I don't have one or want one in YouTube because that's Google. You know? And I do look at things on YouTube, but I don't chat in there. I don't don't wanna sign on to the Google Just like Amazon. What what little of that is possible?
[05:02:18] Unknown:
How about x or, Twitter? Formally,
[05:02:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not on any of the social media. I just do the chats and email. That's it.
[05:02:28] Unknown:
Alright. It is on Lumble.
[05:02:31] Unknown:
It it isn't? I was gonna ask. Yeah. Figures.
[05:02:35] Unknown:
Yep.
[05:02:54] Unknown:
Well, I'm gonna go listen to, Rebel Madman Radio. Talk to you guys later.
[05:03:01] Unknown:
Bless you.
[05:03:08] Unknown:
Have a nice weekend. Well, I'm getting off. I'll see y'all later. Goodbye.
Introduction and Host Welcome
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Discussion on National Status and Interviews
Challenges with Communication and Technology
Brent's Legal Perspectives
Importance of Understanding and Education
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Approaches to Explaining National Status
Discussion on Bible Translations
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