In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles reflects on the significance of July 16th, marking his "Patriot Birthday"—the day he first questioned the legality of income tax 33 years ago. He recounts the pivotal moment when he was introduced to the concept that income tax might be illegal, sparking his journey into understanding national status and the complexities of tax law. The conversation delves into the history of tax resistance, mentioning figures like Phil Marsh and Keith Ranieri, and explores the intricacies of national status, including the implications of IRS notices and the process of revocation of election.
Listeners are also treated to a lively discussion on various topics, including the potential of colloidal silver as a health remedy, the intricacies of the U.S. tax system, and the broader implications of national and international law. The episode touches on the challenges of navigating legal and financial systems, the importance of understanding one's rights, and the ongoing quest for personal and financial freedom. Roger and his guests share insights and personal stories, offering a blend of historical context and practical advice for those interested in exploring their national status and the legalities of taxation.
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And we would too, and we'll take another shot at it today. Special day today. Roger Sales, of course, your host, Radio Ranch, name of our little get together. And, today is July 16. Now that is a very important day, at least to me, and it probably should be to you. I'll explain it in a minute. But first, it's like but first, we gotta have Paul come out and, identify the culprits that help us extend our reach and give them proper credit for their efforts. Would you please, Paul?
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Yeah. I I think I'm getting less and less important as days go by seeing as WDRN hasn't shown up in a while. Allen, please come back and give Paul something to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. WDRN does bring us, platforms like WVOU one zero six point nine FM Chicago, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, go live TV, and stream life.tube. They haven't joined us in a little while, because, Alan's been off doing other things. But the mainstays, we actually have what looks like a new mainstay is radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paul, across the drink. And we also have, eurofolkradio.com.
That is our anchor platform. That's where this iteration of the Radio Ranch all started, and that is thanks to pastor Eli James. And we have Global Voice Radio Network, which mirrors the stream, handles, streaming the after shows, and also manages, archives the, AI transcripts and show descriptions and things like that. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com, where you'll also find links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Got room for about a thousand of you, so come on down. You know, one of these days, we're actually gonna have enough people coming in that I will actually have to take one of the other three conference call platforms and actually link them to the show. Wouldn't that just be delightfully chaotic to have a couple of thousand people on a phone?
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Don't know when that's coming, but I really do honestly, in my heart, think it will be here one day, maybe sooner than we think.
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Mhmm.
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And I I've got a I really have to both Pauls, of course, because Paul does our Paul here does stuff that is just necessary, and very few people can do it. So thank you, Sarah Westall, and whatever caused you to look at that third segment that night. But, oh, but Paul English is the guy that, well, he's he has really, really given me the platform that I dreamed of, prayed for, needed. K? And that's this one where we've got no commercial interruptions and can get in to deep discussions on this very complex, sometimes complicated stuff. And you just it's you can do it with spots, but, boy, it is difficult.
Much more difficult like climbing the hills deepened. So, anyway, that's where we are. And, Mark's here with us this morning, which is fabulous. And, of course, Paul and you, I thought I heard Sherry, there before we got started. We hadn't heard from her in I don't even know how long. But before we get started, let me tell you why this day is so special. It's because it's my Patriot birthday. 33 ago this evening, I was at a, I think it was a consumer byline up up meeting. If I remember deeply enough, consumer byline was a, if you're into network marketing, it was the very first binary plan that had ever come out. It was, developed by this really smart guy who now sits in federal prison with some notoriety named Keith Ranieri. Does that name ring a bell with you, Paul? Or or Mark? No. Keith Ranieri?
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No. Nope. No.
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Well, it was this thing that a couple of well, his claim was claimed to his claim to fame, I guess, recently anyway, was hooking up with a gal from the Bronfman family and starting a sex cult where he would brand girls with his initials. Remember this from a few years ago? Oh, gosh. Oh, yeah. You remember Keith Ranieri is his name. I've met him before. I got a picture with him somewhere.
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Nexium.
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Nexium. Thank you very much. Nexium was the name of the company, and Keith Ranieri. This guy's pretty amazing guy. He was, I think at at 22 or or or something. He had four PhDs from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, which is rated higher academically than MIT. It's up there by you somewhere, Paul. Rensselaeri, have you ever heard of it?
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Rensselaeri. Yeah. It's up here in New York somewhere.
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Yeah. It's very, very, high IQ thing. He had he had four PhDs, physics, math, whatever. He had four PhDs by the time he was, like, 22 years old. And, he came up with this binary plan for, for multilevel. A lot of people have used since. It's quite powerful, actually. And his thinking was with all the other ones, you need to get three. And with this one, we'll only need to get two. You know? And it worked like a snap. It got shut down by some attorney generals. He had to it was a buying club, basically, the way he structured it. But, anyway, I believe it was at one of those meetings. And and, Mark, I told you about these guys the other night.
There was three brothers. We knew each other. They're called the Trent brothers. And, and one of them, the youngest one came up to me in that meeting and said, income tax is illegal. I went, okay. You know, you're kind of first time somebody tells you that, you can't believe that, you know, most people. And so and and and he goes, no. No. We got a tape. We got this tape. Oh, I said, okay. I'm open minded. I'll watch tape. And it was, it was up in Virginia, and, they took a couple of weeks to get it down there. They gave it to me. And, so this was going on through the July.
And, so on thirst on on the Thursday night, it was the sixteenth. And the the reason I can go back and remember that, Mark, is because I turned it on and watched it. It was a guy named Al Carter. I bet you've never heard of him, have you? No. I haven't. Yeah. Well, he was an old PA wide triad from, Utah, and he had ripped off all of Phil Marsh's stuff. And you you're familiar with Phil Marsh?
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The pilot but I don't I don't much of his background either. The pilot connection?
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Mm-mm. That didn't ring a bell? Untaxing. Untaxing is a word in the lexicon that was attributed to Phil. Anyway, he went around. He wrote a book. I can't remember the book. This organization was called the Pilot Connection. But this wasn't him. I'll get into him in a minute. This was this guy Al Carter, and, he had basically ripped off all of Phil Marsh's stuff, stuff, and he was doing a video to an audience. And I was going on things like, oh, the only, liens are for government employees because it's listed on the back. You know? All that early stuff where you could get piece of the puzzle, but you couldn't put it together. And, I'm having a cough here this morning. Pardon me.
Yes. Yeah. And so, anyway, I had to stop that thing in the middle of it because and the reason I know is this date is because it was the night of Bill Clinton's first acceptance speech. And I wanted to see this young whippersnapper that was taking the political world by storm. And, if you'll remember, he played his saxophone that night. That was the night he talked about Carol Quigley, his favorite professor at Georgetown. And and and I figured it was gonna be, like, twenty, thirty minutes at the max. Well, it it was the longest political speech in US history. It was two hours long. And so by the time that was finished, I, it was late. I I was teaching back then. I must have had to teach on Friday because I went to bed, and I said, well, I'll watch this.
Must have had something to do Friday night too because I didn't get to watch it till Saturday. So Saturday morning, get up. It's like kind of this morning. Wake up, and you don't even need a cup of coffee. You just sit straight up in bed, like, wide awake. And I got out of bed, put threw some clothes on, and bolted down the stairs to get the VCR on and to get that tape in. And when the second half of it finished, and I said, oh my god. If they can screw us this bad here, what the hell else is happening that we don't know about? That's where I started, right there, on July 16, thirty three years ago today.
It's been a very interesting road since. The guy that he was ripping off, Phil Marsh, back in those days, he'd go around the country, had pretty big it's the first person I ever saw after I after this day. He was actually in town, like, a couple of days later where I was, and he was right at close to my house at a Hilton hotel. And I so I got over there early, and it was one of those big big rooms, you know, and the folding doors in the back or whatever. And, I got there. There was nobody there yet, and there was big couple of picnic tables, buffet tables there with information on of it, much of it free. I bought his book, and, I didn't have hardly two nickels to rub together back then.
And, so I remember, I sat down in front. And I remember during the meeting, I turned around and the whole damn place was full. I mean, every chair and standing room only in the hall. That was thirty three years ago, folks. That's how long this interest has been brewing in the underground. K? So, anyway, old Phil Marsh, they, they got him on on, I don't remember if it was, Rivera or or, Stone Phillips, but they got him on an ABC thing for an hour one Friday night, Phil Marsh. And and that's because he wasn't he wasn't teaching the right stuff. See, this is the same time John and Glenn and I are dancing, and, they didn't let them go six months. They put Phil Marsh on national television for an hour. Why?
Because he wasn't teaching the right stuff. And so there, they can let him run. They got him hooked already. They're gonna let him run like a big old marlin, and then they're gonna throw that drag and they're gonna reel him in and all the other fish that have been with you get reeled in too. So that's why they let them go like that. If they're if you don't have anything that damages them, you're wrong. They'll let you run. Okay? Because then they can catch all the other people and the dissidents potentially in the net. And so, Phil Marsh, if I remember right, him and his wife both died in federal prison.
Good guy, great intentions, but, humble beginnings, thirty three years ago today. I was trying to come up with Happy birthday. Well, thank you. I was trying to come up with some clever Beatles thing. You know, it was thirty three years ago today. Sorry to interrupt the band to play, but I couldn't come up with any good lyrics for that. So just to let you know, it's Patriot birthday day. And then, and then in a couple of days here on Sunday, we won't be together. It's my real birthday. So pretty important time of the year for me. Very symbolic to me.
And, it's funny I can go back and pinpoint the exact right date because of Bill Clinton. So anyway, that's what today is to me. It'll be real special. We got a special, we got an interview this afternoon with a new guy, Kevin Hoyt, I believe. And, so that's gonna go off. Paula, you're gonna route it through our stuff. Can people listen or just if y'all just people you know, y'all wanna hear every interview I do, and that's fine. I appreciate that. But it's pretty much regurgitated stuff. You're gonna hear the same stuff. You know? But, I I is there a method for people to listen live if they want, Paul? Can they dial into the platform, or they just wait to hear the recorded interview?
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I think, because I haven't actually talked to Kevin about the possibility of that. Typically, when, when the shows are recorded, they don't wanna do them live because they don't wanna let the cat out of the bag. They wanna polish them up first. Yeah. I will be I will be making sure that you're connected to Kevin,
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but it won't be through the Radio Ranch system, I don't think. Okay. Alright. We all have to wait and hear the interview. Kevin Hoyt's got quite a following, I guess. Julie set this up. He's he's got a bunch of problems with government. I think New Hampshire state, and I'm not sure about the federal implications. But as, they were telling me about him and his he's got this daughter that he is, absolutely adores, which is understandable. And, I I I don't know about all that. So we'll find out. I know one thing is if if, just a little bit of what Julie told me about what he's going through. This guy there, man, he needs this interview bad. Okay? Mhmm.
Because they're on him. So, this should put an end to a bunch of that. So I'm anxious. Excuse me for, to, do that interview this afternoon. Got another one sitting in the background with a guy named, oh gosh. What was his name? I really liked it. I can't think of it for the moment. I'll get it in a second. But, anyway, he wrote me this morning. He says, here's an interview I did with this big doctor on the on the who thing. You know, this they're trying to cook up another who thing in the background. And I said, I don't need to listen to it because if you become a national, it doesn't apply to us. So it'll be interesting. Yeah. It'll probably be scheduled with him here at some point. I don't know when.
So, anyway, there we are for the sixteenth, and there's Julie just piping right up. Yes, ma'am. Good morning.
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Good morning, and happy birthday. Happy happy birthday to you. I'm excited for your thing today. I'm sure that, Kevin doesn't want it live. He'll he'll wanna he'll wanna clean up the interview and and edit it. But, I wanted to tell you the thing that you were talking about earlier today, about that guy who branded the people. It's called, Rensselaer Polytechnic
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Institute. Yes. I met him up in DC. We came up to DC to a meeting for this consumer byline thing, and that's where I met him.
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A little nerdy. That's a great it's a great school.
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That it's the high rated higher than MIT. Very bright guy. He still sits in prison. By the way, the Bronfman gal was released within the last couple of weeks. I don't think they wanted to make a big deal out of it. And, she, says it's, what'd she say? She said he's innocent or she's trying to get him out of jail or something. Anyway, she's got access, one of the two Bronfman daughters. Evidently, they didn't have any swimmers. And, so, the, but they're the heirs to the Bronfman factory. They're the ones that own Seagrams and all that. They they made bunch of their money smuggling whiskey in the twenties. Surprise. Surprise.
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And, that's I want some no. Go ahead. Sorry. No. No. Go ahead with what you're gonna say. Oh, no. Sorry. I I thought you were done. So keep on going. You meant they Well, I would. In the twenties.
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Well, I mean, they got their initial start smuggling whiskey. Like, everybody like the Kennedy's and everybody else. You know? So give them a black market. Give them a black market, and they will perform. Yes. Go ahead, Julie. I'm finished.
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Yeah. Austin wanted me to tell all of you. He said he texted me and said that was a ton of information to study. I'm grateful. There are people like all of you guys out there. Thank you so much. So I texted him back and said, I hope you'll come on the call this Saturday. I haven't heard back from him yet, but so hopefully, he'll jump on on Saturday as well.
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Yeah. And, you know, somebody like Austin bellies up to the bar here last Saturday, and we just, you know, said, well, I I wanted a load, but did you have to dump the whole load on me? You know, that old story. Well, Austin, I'm sorry, baby. I didn't I didn't dump the whole load on you. You just got a partial load on but he certainly wouldn't understand that, but he will as we go forward. I'm pretty sure he'll be one, one of our family here. Sharp kid. Thank you, Julie, for, bird dogging him over here.
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I look forward to talking to him. I I know you told him on the show that you might you would let him plug his, company, and he didn't get a chance to do that. But he is with American Hartford Gold, and I did tell him that, look. Is there any type of metal deals connectivity
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or something.
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What? Now hold on. Somebody's Julie, somebody's trying to talk over you. Who who was that? You just spoke right over, Julie. Somebody Was it an accident or what?
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Somebody's saying that, it lost connectivity.
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Connectivity.
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Did it? Yeah. It was an accident. I'm gonna say I think it was Carl.
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Alright. Well Hi, Carl. We well, hold on. Are we are we connected back? Do we have the group here?
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Warning warning, Will Robinson. I think it might have been a personal thing,
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but I'm not sure. Oh, is the rest of the group visible on the board there?
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Yep. And I've heard Mark chime in, and, of course, Julie still has.
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Okay. Those of you that can see the FCC board, are the people still there? Do we get disconnected, please? What's going on?
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I can hear you. Oh.
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And I can, and I'm on FCC also. So Alright. Well, I'm assuming everything's alright. So whatever that was, try and go ahead. Yeah. Everything everything's fine. Somebody,
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I mean, they're I don't know. Maybe their Bluetooth dropped out or something like that.
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Okay. Go ahead, Julie. If you can make a note just saying that,
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so I was just saying that, Austin is with American Hartford Gold, and you had said the last time on the show that you would let him plug his, metals, group. He didn't have a chance to do so, but I told him. I said, look. I said, I don't know how many people on the show would be interested in buying any metals, but if you could put together a super duper, discount for the listeners, I said, you know, for anybody who might be interested, like, beat out all the other metal dealers. Like, if I were to call every single one of your competitors, your price would be the lowest lowest premium on on your spot price. I said that that would be maybe nice for people who still might be interested. And I said, I, of course, can't guarantee anybody would wanna buy, but, you know, that would be something nice to do.
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Yes. And I don't mind at all giving him a chance to plug where he works. So looking forward to hopefully talking to him again on birthday eve. So, let's see where else. Well, I was listening. Anybody got anything to add on what we've gone through so far? Anybody remember Phil Marsh or or or Al Carter or any of these guys from the old days? It's thirty three years ago, folks. Phil Marsh. You do? Okay. Yeah. He had quite a following. His big deal was untaxing, and he put the word untaxing into the lexicon. I don't hear it used too much anymore, but that was Phil. Dedicated guy, unfortunately, died in, like I said, I I I as my understanding, him and his wife both died in federal prison along with, oh, his son's still out there.
The the guy that Didn't the Browns also? Well, the Browns, we could talk about them. And and, the but I'm concentrating on who's the guy that doesn't like Bitcoin? Peter Schiff. Schiff. Yeah. Erwin Schiff. Peter Schiff's son. Yeah. That's the deal. I'm understanding that, and it was Erwin Schiff. He wrote the Federal Mafia and couple of he's one of the only guys that's had a book banned in America. A judge banned that book in America, and he died, in federal prison, unfortunately, for him handcuffed to a bed, I was told.
So, a lot of people have paved the way that didn't they they had parts of it, but they didn't have all of it. We got all of it. They don't touch us. They don't touch us. People are scared. You know? I understand that. But, you know, we've been doing this for fifteen years, never had an incident with the feds, and we've been poking the IRS for at least six or seven. And we I've never had anybody suffer any backlashes from them either. So if you're doubtful and skeptical, all I can offer you is a track record in the truth. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. He was in, he was sentenced to seventeen and a half years in prison and his wife Marlene was, a term of fourteen years, and he was the founder of the 1990, society called the Pilot Connection Society.
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Yep. That was him. And, I was fortunate enough to see him one time, there right at the very first. And then what happened was I took his book, and I got all the free stuff I could read. And I got his book, and I remember staying up late into the night reading it. And that's where I came across for the very first time, Sun Tzu. I I I wouldn't here I am, a military kid who'd read all these books on Guadalcanal diary and all that stuff, chesty puller and all that stuff. And I I've never heard of Sun Tzu. And then I got a little further in the book and stumbled on an abbreviated version of the the protocols of the learned elders of Zion.
And, boy, if you wanna get good and sick, read that. Because I don't think you can read very much of that. In fact, the guy that got the original version in Yiddish, I think, was a fellow in England at the one of the big English museums named Victor Marsden. I remember his name. And Victor Marsden worked on that, translating it, and he his statement was I can't work on this longer than thirty minutes a day without getting physically sick. That's the protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. If you've never heard of them, don't be shocked. A lot of people haven't. If you you can go search them up online and, read them if you can stomach it. It's their blueprint.
It's the things that are in there, the different sections that say if you ever get caught, deny, deny, deny. What do we see? Deny, deny, deny. See, they follow it right real close. And, actually, there's they were named a forgery. The Jews tried to combat them as they got released, and they call them a forgery. Except that doesn't a forgery by its very definition have to have an original? Doesn't it? So another one of their canards, they throw it out there. People buy that, and they never think through it. If you really wanna get, I would encourage you to read a little bit of it, really.
And it just lays everything out. Just you see it unfolding today. Well, that's the big forgery, of course, and sorry sorry, Jaime. A forgery by its definition has to have an original. So that's first place I got exposed to any of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Was that Mark?
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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt your story. I was looking at our our chat board, and we had a, gentleman ask about, the CP five eighteen IRS letter. And I thought it'd be kinda interesting because a lot of people are starting to get these. A lot of nationals are. Yes. And be a good opportunity to kind of address that. Well, okay. You'll just wait a minute. I'll turn it right over. You can. I do know somebody else. My old friend Debbie's got the same thing going on.
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So they're trying Of course. They're trying to yes, they're trying to do something to show they're big bullies, and, well, they're they're gonna fall flat on their face again. So, anyway, that was said about about about what I was gonna say. That's where I started. And, in there, at that point, we didn't have Internet stuff. So every place I saw that had that sold books, like Omni Books or whatever, I'd write them a letter, say, please send me a list of everything you got. That's how I found, well, I saw McFadden mentioned, I believe, in the pilot society, but that's where I found the book on McFadden years ago. And so that's where I started, and I just desperately started looking for answers and further information.
I don't it it wasn't but a couple of weeks after that that I crossed paths with John and Glenn, and I don't remember that date. But it wasn't very long after that date. And, after that, boom, everything was off to the races. Okay. Well, speaking of John and Glenn and their tax efforts here, let's go into the CP 59 and then the CP five eighty something. So, Mark, I'm glad you're with us today. Before you do that, tell the story that you told me the other night about that guy you were talking to in Oregon.
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Oh, yeah. There's one of Roger's listeners who's a national, and his name's Mark. He's from Oregon. And he was traveling through Oklahoma City. And I got a chance to meet with him for coffee, actually two different times, two separate times. And, so he was telling me that he had an acquaintance. I think it was from work. And it was on, I forget where it's at. Wherever he was working at the time, I believe he was out of state. But anyway, he'd he'd mentioned the national status to this this gentleman, and he really kinda didn't show much interest. And then somehow he was talking to another, you know, unrelated gentleman and as they're talking, it rolls around to taxes and this gentleman goes, tells Mark, he goes, Well, I don't pay taxes. And he goes, What do you mean? He goes, Well, I'm a national.
Now he's from Mexico originally. He's he's a naturalized citizen. Right? So he says, oh, because you're Mexican? He goes, no. I'm a national. And he goes, yeah. I learned it from Roger Sales. And Mark fell over. And and then the guy says, yeah. This guy who Mark knew told me about that, and he got on to your information. So it goes back to that little ripple effect. You know? You just never know
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who's, you know, who you're talking to, and that information reaches out further than you expect. And and let me add my version of this and flip over the IRS stuff. This happened, I don't know, three, four years ago. My mom was still alive because she's the one that relayed the message to me. My half brother, his oldest daughter, she had a lot of pretty trouble life and whatnot. She made a lot of wrong decisions. Better way to put it. But she's getting older, and that tends to straighten you out a little bit. So, she is working for Walmart in a team that goes out.
They fly into a city, and they redo those Walmarts over a whole weekend, you know, remodel them, whatever. Right. And that's what she does. So, she's off I think it was up in the Northeast somewhere. And, she's working with the crew and all that, and the manager comes up to her. She says, he says, are you related to Roger Sales? And she goes, yeah. That's my my my father's brother, half brother to be more accurate. And, so he goes, okay. And he walks away. And and as she's going through the rest of the protocol there over the weekend, she has an occasion to walk into his office. And so he gets up and goes over and closes the door and opens the lap drawer on his desk and pulls out a copy of my book.
Wow. So you never know how far this reaches. You know? So okay. There's a couple of interesting stories for you. Mark, dive on into the deep end of the pool here. For these folks, this appears to be the latest way that they're gonna try and bully you and scare you and and and frighten you into the corner. And these are the only things they've got. This is the only thing they can do. And by the way, that's a very, very Jewish, reaction. You know? I I remember the guy that was had a bookstore on all, sold a bunch of books in New York City, Brooklyn, or somewhere. And all of a sudden, these big goons with baseball bats came in and, virtually destroyed the store. Well, that's the Jewish way. When they don't have any other answers, that's what they do.
They can't do that with us. They can try it. And it's interesting to see how their minds work and the frustration because they're dying to find something they can come back on us on, and there's nothing they can, to my knowledge. If they I promise you, if there was, they would have already done it. So, Mark, now I'll shut up and turn this over to you.
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Alright. Thank you, Roger. A lot of nationals, where they had been filing tax returns and then they don't file, they typically IRS will send them a, it's called IRS notice CP 59. That's CP, Charlie Papa, f niner. And that is a notice that we haven't received your tax form, tax returner. It says you need to file your whatever your tax year is, form ten forty tax return. That's the bold headline across the top of the letter. And then as it goes down through there, it says, did we make a mistake? And then the CP59 says, if you don't need to file, complete form 15,103, which is a ten forty return delinquency form.
And they even give you a spot that you can go download that form. And it says you have two options. You can mail us your completed form 15,103 or you can fax it and it gives a fax number. So and it says if we don't hear from you, you may lose your claim to refund on certain credits. We may determine your tax for you, which we certainly don't want and you may become subject to backup withholding. And we definitely don't want that. That's usually where they start holding out 30% of your check for federal taxes. Okay?
So anyway, that's kind of the basic overview. If you don't respond to the CP59 or you just respond with a letter and a copy of your affidavit, which a lot of people are doing, it just gets ignored. And they'll send out a c p five sixteen letter, which is a reminder letter that you haven't filed your return. And if you don't respond to that or you respond in a different way that they're willing to accept, then they'll roll it over to a final notice which is a CP518. CP518. And it's really simple. So far, I haven't heard any kind of blowback if people fill out this form 15,103. It's called a form ten forty return delinquency and you're given an opportunity to explain why you haven't filed.
And of course the top has your basic contact information and then it's got three sections. If you already filed the tax return and you put that information down, If the person addressed on this notice, you're talking about the CP59-five 16 and the five eighteen. If that person that's addressed on that notice is deceased, then they want the date of death and some more a little bit more information. And then it says, if you don't think you have to file a tax return for the year in question, the tax year in question, right? Got a little blank for you to put in the proper year.
And it says, explain why you don't think you're required to file a tax return for blank year. Note the answers to these questions apply to blank tax year. Because, you know, they're always, like, a year behind. So you gotta pay attention to what tax year you're responding to. So it says my filing status was, well, if you're a national, then you're you're either gonna be filing as a single or married filing separately. There are no other options. If you're married, it's going to be married filing separately whether or not your spouse is a national or if you're single, you just check single.
And then the following applied to me. And it was the one of the options is I'm not a US citizen or permanent resident. Bingo. That is one. Yep. Now check this out. Below that, it says my total income. Well, if you don't have any income from a US source, you can put zero right there. And then for the reason for not filing, excuse me, reason for not filing, I would suggest something to the effect of as a nonresident alien, comma, I did not receive income from any for tax year 2023 or whatever tax year's involving. See attached affidavit of citizenship. Now you can only squeeze so much on that line, and that is almost exactly all that you can put on that line, what I just read. I'll read it one more time.
As a non resident alien, I did not receive income from any US source for tax year and then whatever your tax year is. In this case, it was a 2023. See attached affidavit of citizenship. Now you can just write a one page little cover letter basically explaining that if you want and attach a copy of your affidavit and submit it with this form 15,103 and that should put that to bed. Now you are signing it under penalty of perjury that the information is true and correct to the best of your knowledge. Not a big deal. And one last thing, you know, they are threatening with, you know, different actions.
But if you know, they try to come back and say it's a frivolous filing or anything like that, remember you're not under their tax code. Correct. And we've had people that have faced frivolous filing fines and they submitted a letter explaining how as a non resident, they're not susceptible to that. Those codes don't apply to them and IRS has dropped those frivolous filing fees. So you don't have to really worry about dealing with this. We've got the upper hand. It's just that you need to put a little time into thinking about how you want to respond and bounce that idea off of a couple people who have had experience and and know what's going on. And and like Roger said, I think it was yesterday, or day before, it was like, don't get a letter and just be so fired up that you think you gotta answer back that same day. That's ridiculous. Don't do that.
And matter matter of fact, that's pretty dangerous in my book. So you wanna think about a little bit and and, you know bounce it off somebody else. Some people will you know send in the letter or copy of that letter. Scan your you know please if you're in this fight please get a scanner where you can scan documents in and don't be trying to send them via text message with a photo through your phone. That's just ridiculous. If you're in the paperwork fight, you need to have the tools to do that fight. One of those is a scanner and learn how to work it. And it and you'll find out if you do it right, it really streamlines your world because you can scan a document, save it on your computer if you know how to name it right.
And, from there on out, you can tuck away that piece of paper in your file and never have to go back and pull it out again if you don't unless you need the original. So I just find, you know, look at your deadline that you need to file and, you know, give it a week or two weeks. And and, if you're facing something like that, I'll be happy to review it for you. Now I can't do any writing for you. My schedule just won't allow me to fill out forms for you. But if you want to have me do a quick review, you can email it to me at strawmanmarkallcaps dot com. That's strawman, s t r a w m a n, just like it sounds, mark mall caps dot com. Now it doesn't have to be capitalized. That was just my moniker when I came on Roger's show because my my saying was your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction.
Does not automatically convey jurisdiction.
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Nope. So with that information, I yield, Roger. Okay. Well, let me add a couple of things in that limited space there if you're answering that. You could put explanatory statement attached exhibit a or whatever, and and go ahead and write it out where you've got more space so you're not limited to the space. And you could also say something like I plan to pay all constitutional taxes that I owe, including eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b taxes. That reverts right back to their regulatory, statement. And you could, put your affidavit in there again and label it exhibit b, attach c, exhibit b, whatever. Just a couple of things like that. Those are only things that I wanted to add, I think, Mark. And so, really, this whole threat
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Those are great points.
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This whole threat that they've come out with here, some new threat. They know damn well you don't owe for that year. They've gotten your affidavit or they wouldn't be sending you this. So, I just play the game.
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Yeah. I suspect if we were to drill down and ask a few questions of these people receiving these notices, I'm betting they're like a $10.99, contractor. Yep. That'd be it. And they didn't fill out I would've guess they're not filling out a revocation of election, which some people believe you don't need. And so the IRS is sitting there waiting to get a, you know, a tax return, and they're not getting it because they're receiving a ten ninety nine, but they're not receiving a matching ten forty tax return. So that's what they're expecting.
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Are the people that you have been contacted about this, are they ten ninety nine employees? Because that's what Debbie is. She's an insurance agent. I just never drilled I never drilled down to find out. So Well, if you get another one, ask them. Vetting. I'm doing. Yeah. It's just an educational guess. I think you're probably pretty right. Might have some listeners
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might have some listeners right now that have been through this and received the CP 59 letter, and I'd be curious to know if they're a a ten ninety niner or and did they do a revocation of elections? So Yes. If anybody's on this call and they wanna chime in, let let us know. Did they start this is Rex. I received a
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I received a w two and not a ten ninety nine. I haven't received I got mixed mixed advice so far as far as the, revocation of elections. Some people told me don't send it in because it puts a target on your back, and others are saying you have to say send it in.
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Well, now when I'll hold on. Rex, have we spoken before?
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We have. It was a few months ago Okay. Or six months ago, I think.
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I forgot what I was gonna ask you. When you say revocation of election, are you talking about just sending the IRS notice, or are you talking about applying for back taxes either that you did not go back and claim or that you've already filed for? Is that what you're talking about with the revocation of election? Or I wanna make sure we got our terminology right here.
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The, sending a letter of intent not to or Okay. Well, that's revocation line. Okay. Well, that's you're you're cutting
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your ties with them on the on your status. Technically, the revocation of election is when you're going back and filing for, in a process to go back and get money that's either owed or you're trying to get money back. I disagree. Oh, okay. Well, I understand. Disagree with that. Well, Mark, give us your size.
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Well, it's it's, you know, you elected to be paying taxes when you filed your first Right. Ten forty. Right. And that could have been at age 16. Of course, it's not until you're 18. And so all this is doing is severing that time. You're saying, I'm no longer electing to pay taxes. And once you file that, there's a five year period that you can't file taxes. You can't return to filing a federal income tax for five years according to the IRS code. So, you know, and some people say do file it. But trust me, as soon as you file your letter and a copy of your affidavit, the IRS knows that you're a national. Yeah. That's right. They know.
So don't worry about paying a target on your back because what if there's nothing for them to target. Okay. Well, this system in their they're not under their tax code.
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Uh-huh. And that's true. Once they've received notice, that's true. I was talking about that my understanding on revocation of election was always filing to get money back and not sending the notice. After me. K. Okay. Well, that's just that's the what I've carried for all these years from John and Glenn. So it's just my mistake or different definition. So, that's why I asked Rex about that because I don't wanna get those things confused. I would assume all of you would wanna give the IRS notice that you filed your affidavit. K?
That's separating yourself from the system, and this is our we got two teeth. Big, big, big teeth. This is one of them because what that does is, of course, pull you out of being responsible for the death that's generating all that user that, all the usury, the vigorous. That's what they wanna do is they wanna get you locked up in that. And, so, of course, that pulls us out of that. And the other thing, is so important, and I lost my train of thought. But that's what you're doing, and that's that's the big deal. The other one is, allegiance for protection and switching the protection back to the state, which is something we know about. We haven't really put teeth into it yet, but we can, and I hope we will.
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Well, we got a couple of stories on that along that line that, should hear back today a little bit about it. And, and that's as far as I'm willing to say about it because this person's wanting to come online, share their story, and I think it'll be a doozy. Okay. So, Rex, just real real quick. Why were you under the impression or why were you told not to do a revocation of election? I'm just curious.
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That was advice from Paimon. I don't know if you're familiar with
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that guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, he doesn't know what he he doesn't have any idea what we're doing over here. So
[00:48:57] Unknown:
Well, not only that, he charges ridiculous prices as a percentage of whatever they're saving you on taxes. And mind you, this guy has been prosecuted, not criminally, let me back up, he's been sued civilly and lost. And here's the other thing too. When you hear somebody promoting him, they are an affiliate and they're getting a cut. Yep. I think it's 50% of whatever somebody comes in and say, yeah, again, it's a percentage of your taxes that you save. And let's say it's, $2,000, that you're gonna pay payment, then he cuts that in half with his affiliate.
Yep. So and they don't disclose that generally. So when you see him come on and they're promoting him and dah dah dah dah dah dah, well, they're not telling you that that the person promoting him is getting a cut off their business.
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Yep.
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So Mike Brown Like I said go ahead. I did an interview. I think his name's Mike Brown over there on Sons of Liberty or something. And That's Tim Brown. Yeah. He We did one interview, and he never has called back. And then somebody told me he's got payment on there all time. Now the guy's got, like, nine children. Okay? So, but, yeah, that's the deal. It's Kickback City and, he has no idea what we're doing or understanding of it, Rex, quite frankly. Right. Right. And and why would you follow somebody
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who went through court, got sued and lost? So here he is telling people there's no law. There's no law. Well, you know, maybe not for nationals. But even as a national think about this, guys. Even as a national, if you receive income from a US source, like some type of US agency, not a third party contractor, but if that income is considered to be derived some way through the government to you, okay, directly like USDA, HUD, Housing and Urban Development. If you're receiving money directly from them, that money might be taxable. Not all, not all of your money. Let's say, excuse me, let's say you're an employee or a subcontractor and you're getting a ten ninety nine or a w-two, that's not coming from The US Government.
Right? But maybe over here, let's say, you're a farmer and you apply for some kind of grant and USDA gave you that grant money. I would say that that's probably taxable, but that amount's only taxable, not the amount that you're receiving from an employer or a ten ninety nine. So you have to look at the context of where that income's coming from and, decide how to file your taxes. So hope that helps.
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Rex, you also said he said there's he's on the older show me the law deal. Right? You you know where those people are falling short? Because that was Debbie Kidd and Bannister and all the they put a big ad in the New York Times, $50,000. If you can show us the law. Well, the law is not in the statutes. They're looking in the statutes. It's in the regulations. It's on the first page, and it very distinctly says, although mister Peyman has not seen it, an income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States or residents. And to the extent of eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, both constitutional taxes, by the way, all nonresident alien individuals.
There's only two statuses. You're sent you're free or you're a slave. And there they are exhibited right there in that regulation, and they call regulations little laws. So payment, there's the law. But nobody's ever recognized that before because nobody's ever found it with John Benson to my knowledge. So does that help, Rex?
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That does. And I think, there's a revocation of election letter template on the nationalstatus.info
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site. That's correct. It's a 13 page notice. Yep.
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I I should probably include that with my response to the IRS, I assume.
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Do you have a do you have a separately. Do you have a response for them? Have they contacted you?
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I haven't responded to the,
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to the CP five eighteen IRS letter yet. When did you get it? You respond to the CP59 and the CP516 letters?
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I don't recall ever receiving either of those. Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, when did you get saw was CP18.
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When did you get this one? Three weeks ago. Do it reply quickly.
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Yeah. So it's it's easy. Just use the CP50103 and, put a cover letter. You can use just the wording that I showed you in the chat. That's really all that's needed or you can do like Roger. And thank you, Roger. It's a a great tip that you can say see attached explanatory letter and exhibits. Then you can stretch your response outside of that little line that they give you to put that information in. And, but again, it's up to you. I put see the attached affidavit, and you're putting a cover letter with that document anyway. So but you could go with with Roger's direction.
You can go as deep as you want with an with an attachment. It'd be like a memorandum of law, You know? Maybe you ought to attach, well, it's too big. I started to say, Devon citizenship, handbook.
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But in the on the form one five one zero three in pie, explanatory statement attached and then label it exhibit a or exhibit one or whatever you wanna identify it. And then over on the top of the page, you put exhibit one. So you're linking them together right there. K? When you send the affidavit, you'll put exhibit two, and it's the top of the affidavit, exhibit two. So you're linking them. So even an IRS bureaucrat can understand. Okay?
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Yeah.
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Yep. Rex, what part of great idea. Rex, what part of the country are you in, man? I don't remember talking to you before.
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I'm in Florida.
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What part? Tampa. Okay. Real Florida, I call it. Okay. Yeah. We got a number of people down there. I'm surprised. We got enough folks down there for y'all to have a a get together. If you how far is Tarpon Springs away from you?
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Thirty minutes.
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You got up to Tarpon Springs. We got a good listener up there that owns a Greek restaurant. He I bet he'd throw down a throw down a feed bag that all of y'all would talk about for a while. So if we can ever get that together, Bob Mark Bob Morgan's down there that talks in here all time, old time listener. And, yeah, we got a number of folks down there. I've forgotten how many, actually. But, anyway, great to hear from you.
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Yeah. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate that. This is helpful. Yeah, man. Made me nervous when I got that IRS. Well,
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of course. And, you know, I don't know if you've heard me say it, but Brent Winters, our attorney. He says, Roger, I've I've seen grown businessmen successful wet their pants when they get a letter from the IRS. That's how how bad these people scare people. And they've done a wonderful job. It's right on there. Well, tax farming is one of their deals. They've been doing it for thousands of years, all all the way back to Egypt, actually. So that's what's going on. They're tax for farming, and they, get a commission out of what they collect. As, Glenn said, why do you think they call him the commissioner?
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K.
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So, so, anyway, anything else, Rex, we can help you with?
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One last thing. I I've heard some US nationals are fight filing a ten forty x to reclaim, like, their past three years. Well,
[00:57:34] Unknown:
that's what I would cons that's what I consider in my mind revocation of elections going after that back money. We can do that. Mark, you wanna give him a rundown on, what we've found to this point? They're not really responding too much to that approach, it seems. But, one of our guys called in, I guess, that he filed, and the woman got hysterical with him at the IRS. And it's like started screaming,
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and you're going to jail over this. We got 500,000
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of these things sitting here. So that's the report we got back, which is pretty cute. So, Mark, you wanna address Rex's, Rex's query there?
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I apologize. I was busy trying to put stuff over in the chat message. Somebody come online. This is the one thing I don't like about free conference call. In the chat board, we're putting information out there. And if you come in after that was posted, you join free conference call after that was posted, you don't see anything in the chat messaging. All they all they do is they're catching on to what we're saying now and wanting that information. So this is why, everyone, please post this stuff also on the, Radio Ranch Chitango channel.
We have a a channel that we're we usually keep up to date, and it's called numeral2radioranch.chatandgo, chatango,.com. 2radiochat excuse me. Number2radioranch.chitango.com. And so Murr is just faithfully posting a lot of stuff out there. And by the way, if you missed her show Sunday, it was really good. I'd highly recommend going back and listening to that. I I happen to catch it. I set an alarm. So if I'm not too busy, I'll I'll tune in and try to listen to her show. So, anyway, I'll try to go over here on number two, radioranch. Mhmm. Detangle.com, and I'll try to repost this information. Rex was asking about saying some people tell him to file a ten forty x. So I was gonna I think I can speak on that if I got it right. Yeah. I could speak. You or Mark, either one. Go ahead.
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The revocation of election is you giving the IRS notice that you are not part of their tax system and that you're not obligated to pay income tax. That you are obligated to pay any taxes that fall under five seventy one b or five seventy seven b.
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Correct.
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Now the ten forty x is a corrected return. That is if you're gonna go back and correct a ten forty form that was filed before as a SURF and you want to refile that and correct that form, you do a ten forty x. A ten forty n r is what you would use if your employer took money out of your check and withheld for the IRS, and you want that money back for the current or previous tax year. Now, like, 2024, you're gonna file for that refund in 2025 using a ten forty n r. Is that close, Mark?
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Well,
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I apologize. I'm a little distracted. The revocation of election is just an official way of telling the IRS that you're checking out of their system. Okay. And if you're wanting to go back and file a ten forty x, like, if you already filed a standard ten forty a form as a US citizen, then allegedly, you can file a ten forty x with a ten forty NR and request to get all your income tax back. So far, I don't know of anybody who's been successful in doing that. I have no evidence of anybody ever being successful in getting back any taxes that they paid in under a ten forty.
Now if you haven't filed a ten forty, I believe you can go back and and and go back, at least three years, and get that money back. I'm getting ready to test that out with somebody. Cool. So we'll see. Yeah. They hadn't filed in years. And so I think it they had withholdings, but they're just like, well, I'm I'm I've got withholding. Why do I need to bother filing? And so now we're gonna go back and see if we're successful in in, getting the last three years where they had not filed previously a ten forty a, a regular ten forty as a US citizen. So we'll see how that turns out. Alright. That gets you, Rex? A lot of information there.
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Yeah. This was very helpful. I need to drop for a a 12:00 meeting, but I really appreciate you guys, to be able to share your experiences of what what's working and what's not. It's, invaluable.
[01:03:06] Unknown:
I really appreciate it. You're very welcome. Go back and visit us more often, Rex. Thanks, guys. Will do. You're welcome. Have a great day, Rex. Day. Ciao. Ciao. You too. Bye. Alright. There you go. Rex off into the meeting sunset. Anybody else out there? You know, the meeting the the the prime time here with us that Mark takes out of his extremely busy schedule. And I don't know how busy mine is, but I it's my favorite two hours of the day is being with you guys. So anybody else? Any new folks out there or got a question or comment Or don't have to be new, anybody in general?
Yeah. We must be doing a pretty good job then. Hey, Roger. Somebody. Yes. Who's that?
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This is Mike up in, Rhode Island.
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Hey, Mike. How you doing? Doing great. How are you? Pretty good, I think, all in all. That
[01:04:00] Unknown:
that's good. I just, jumped on a little bit late. Did I hear correctly today is your birthday?
[01:04:06] Unknown:
Today is my Patriot birthday.
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Patriot birthday.
[01:04:11] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Okay. Well, happy birthday for that. Yeah. Thank you. Maybe even more important than my real birthday because that was started my first life, and this one started my second life.
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I hear you on that one. Well, on the tax subject, I was gonna ask Mark this previously, but, might help for other people to hear it as well. So when you quote that that CFR one dot one dash one, and it says we're only subject only subject to yes. A. Only subject to eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b. Yes. And then you go to look look at that section, it, it says further down in the same section eight seventy one where it says, as a nonresident alien, you're still subject to this other stuff. And if you're in a country for more than a hundred and eighty three days, then it's 30% pretty much across the board. How do we address that? So if we're if we're communicating that, how do we say, no. We're we're only subject to eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b when the rest of the section includes other taxability.
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Well, on the specifics of your question, I've never read down that far. They're both constitutional taxes. I didn't know about any kind of a hundred and eighty three days, and that may be for a foreigner right there. So I don't know. Mark, you got an idea on that? We've never had any blowback on it, though, Mike. Go ahead, Mark. Is Mark not there?
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Okay. Well, while he's catching up or whatever, in in that section eight seventy one, if you go to 26 CFR eight seventy one, it's got the, you know, the subsection b that we reference. But a little further down, I don't have it directly in front of me at the moment, but a little further down, it it, it does reference nonresident aliens, and it says if, if you have, you know, these other types of income or you're in the country for more than a hundred and eighty three days, then you're taxed at this, you know, 30%.
[01:06:37] Unknown:
Well, don't forget if you're a foreigner in here doing business or something, they're you're nonresident alien too. Okay? So that's probably who that's directed at with some kind of a geographical residency statement.
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Okay.
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Okay. That'd be my guess. Mark, are you back yet? Yeah. No. He's not. So, that'd be my guess, Mike. That's about the best answer I can give you.
[01:07:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I I'm just curious. So, like, you know, if if assuming we get pushed back and and and someone says, well, even in a conversation, it's like, oh, let me go look at that, and you look at eight seventy one, and it says that. No. I it says says for nonresident alien. So I'd say that's for foreigners myself. They'd fall under that category too, wouldn't they? Yeah. I I would assume so, but but if we're aligning ourselves, you know, that that national, we can extrapolate how national means nonresident alien.
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Well, there's a better way to look at it, and that is to go back to just basic conceptual approach. There's only two statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Right? Right. Well, we know who the slave is. They tell us right there. So the other one's gotta be the free one no matter what they label it.
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K? May I? Yeah.
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Certainly.
[01:08:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey. Yeah. Hi, Roger. This is Matt. Hey. I think, I think what that's referring to I don't have it in front of me, but I I've looked it up recently, and I think that's,
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to avoid
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expatriation, to avoid taxes. I think that's what that's under, and that's not what we're doing. So I think that's the answer right there. It's 877, I believe is is people that expatriate to avoid paying taxes. And we're not doing that. No. We're we're pulling ourselves out of the out of DC because we don't reside there, and back to the land here, you know, the several states. So I don't know if that helps or not, but that's that's my take on that whole thing.
[01:08:50] Unknown:
I think you're probably right, man. This is what I know, Mike, out of all these years, you've never had a question on it or or any backlash on it from them. That's about I think about the first time you can go down and check on this website, Shane's, the letter that I wrote back to the IRS for Shane. I'm not sure where Paul's got it stashed. I think that was in about 2019 or '18, And that's when we first started putting the IRS on notice of everything. I'd never thought of it before that. And Shane was the first one that did it. And Shane Belli, yeah. I'll do it. You know? And, sends them he gets back threatening a $5,000 frivolous filing penalty, and that letter on the website is what I wrote back to them.
I guarantee it burned somebody's retina, and, we Shane's never heard from him again. They're all bluff, man. They're all bluff. Yeah. So, Mike, I I hope that if if it was challenged. They're they're not gonna challenge it. They're not gonna challenge it because they're not gonna risk the run the risk of bringing this information into any kind of spotlight. They're scared to death of this.
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That makes sense.
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I mean, look. They have to stay on mute. They have to stay on mute when you submit an affidavit. They can't rebut. They can't deny. It takes all their power away. They're somebody comes under well, when are we gonna get a k or a a national court case in there? You think they're ever gonna let this get into a courtroom? Really? Are you that naive? Probably not. K. So, we got we got you Mike, do you know what you got when you got one green ball in your left hand and one green ball in your right hand?
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Two green balls.
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You got the jolly green giant right where you want him. And that's what we've got. K?
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I believe that.
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So, man, listen. These guys, if there's anything that pops up, they take they take care of it pretty quick like John and Glenn versus Mark Pilate, Mark, the Pilots Society guy. They let him go for years, man. Put him on Friday night for an hour on TV talking about untaxing. They didn't let John and Glenn go six months before they jumped on them. If we if we weren't right, they they they would have jumped on this already. Okay? I think. Anyway, they're scared to death. They won't touch it. All they the best they've got are these bluff letters that the passport office sends out. They tried missus Robinson. That didn't do any good. They don't know what to do about it because they can't do anything about it. That's the problem for them. Thank goodness.
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Mhmm.
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We gotta help I I pulled up that section, and and and it's, it's speaking, specifically to capital gains. So in the case of a nonresident alien individual present in The United States for a period of four periods aggregating a hundred and eighty three days or more during the taxable year, there's hereby imposed to such a year a tax of 30% of the amount, for which the gains derive from sources within The United States. So, again, I guess that United States automatically means just the corporation.
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Of course. It means federal zone.
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So Okay. All I can do That slays that.
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So I think I think that must be for four years. Okay. Yeah. Who, who's that?
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Hey. It's Jack in Colorado.
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Hey, Jack. We haven't heard from you in a while.
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Hey. I've been lurking. I'm actually reading that, and it it is under eight seventy one b, and it's section two. It's capital gains of aliens present in The United States There you go. In eighty three days or more. So it's still going back to that capital gains through corporate.
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Yep. Dividends and that sort of thing. So Yep.
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And I think it's talking about foreigners here, not nationals. Because, well, they're foreign nationals too. You know? I mean, you call them a you'll see a newspaper article, a story of so and so, a national, an Austrian national, or a so and so national. So you'll see those other countries identified in this status as a national occasionally. K. Good. Yeah. Mike, that get did Mark ever show back up, or is he gone or what? Okay. I guess he had to dart away with something. He takes care of his elderly parents. Yes.
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Did are you having your,
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interview with, Kevin Hoyt today? This afternoon. Yes. Three to five my time.
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Do you remember when I brought him up originally?
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I do not.
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Yeah. When I did bring him up, Julie felt she knew who he was, and Julie and I went back and forth. And I'm pretty much sure there's a consensus that this is the right Kevin Hoyt. Anyways, he originally did this interview with Sam Anthony. That's the kingpin in this new media organization called Your News that is trying to get rid of all the censorship that's normally coming through a lot of other places. Yes. And this is the guy who also, I think, does the aggregation and stuff for Amazon.
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Do you remember that? Oh, it seems like I do. Yeah.
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Yeah. So that guy's name is Sam Anthony. So you might ask Kevin when you're speaking to him if it works out and may not, but how you get your message out and whether there's a contact that he knows in Sam Anthony's group, which I do believe is your news, that this could be done, where they might just pick up your show that you're doing and or maybe you wanna build some shows that are or or, you know, put put off the interviews to them that you've done with Spingola and such. Okay. Well, if I get the chance, I'll see you tomorrow. Anthony is a key guy in this whole thing from beginning, and he's been interviewed by everybody. You know?
Mike Adams, you name it. Everybody's, interviewed Sam Anthony, and Kevin was just one of those guys. I do believe he's not. I've never heard
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of him before. Let's get Kevin and see if we can get him in the fold first, and we can open communications. I'll probably have my mind and plate full talking to him this afternoon about what we're scheduled to talk about. You know,
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you know, I got an app on my phone, Roger, for your news, and I don't know how I got it. Because if you go to the Play Store, it's not there. Because I've got an Android phone, and I have to go through there. So and I know that it I was in Yandex when I did it, and I think I got that app by Yandex, not the Play Store.
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Okay. So, anyway, I just thought I'd let you know some of that stuff. Alright. I'm trying to remember it. I doubt if it'll be brought up today, but I think we'll probably find a very interested, recipient in Kevin. I mean, if there's anybody from what Julie's told me, if there's anybody that needs our stuff, it's him. So he'll get a real instant, almost, feedback on if it works or not because, I think the feds and the state of New Hampshire are both after him for something. Anyway, well, hopefully, I don't think there'll be any screw ups this afternoon. Paul's on top of it. So, hopefully, today that will get done, and I'll, we'll see if we can rope him into the fold here, Samuel. Okay? Thank you. Yeah. Who else who else has got? Okay, buddy. Who else got something? Comment on taxation.
I see. Merge items. Hold on. Yeah. We'll get to you a second. What, Paul?
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Mark, put a note in the chat at 12:03PM eastern family emergency.
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So I don't know if he'll be back. Okay. So he's gone. That's what happened. Probably something happened to one of his parents, unfortunately. Okay. Part of the tax contingent's gone. Who's got the tax question?
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Yeah. George Idaho. How are you doing? And congratulations on your Patriot Awakening Day. I guess that's what you mean by your Patriot birthday. Yeah. And what what, maybe I missed it. What prompted that?
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I I commented that. That at the end of the day. Did your odds get caught? No. It's too bad. No. Guy walked up to me and said that we were at a meeting. I gave a lot of background on it because it has some significance. The guy that was running the company is in federal prison today named Keith Ranieri. He was the president of that. Gave some of that background on it. But, somebody walked up to me in a meeting and said income tax is illegal. These guys I knew, and I like everybody else that probably that has that question presented to them is thought, well, boy, that's crazy. But they said, no. We got a tape. We got a tape. I said, well, give me the tape. I'm open minded. And that was the tape I watched on this day, this night, thirty three years ago, which was Bill Clinton's first acceptance speech, which is why I can nail the date.
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Got it. Got it. So you had a tax question, George? Great. I, that's gonna prompt me to to to to go back in my analyst to remember the day my oxygen was getting gored, and I remembered having a conversation with somebody says, you're just calling me for fire insurance, you know. Because a lot of people are, like you said the other day, just pan panicky about some issue. But I think that if that wakens a person to go deeper, it's almost like the people that Christ was talking to in the Bible. You know, someone went away sad because they were very wealthy or whatever in their knowledge or, you know, what they thought was the the, the truth, but then some go deeper like maybe, Nicodemus. So Yeah.
But, yeah, I I had a comment here that I thought was very thought provoking about this whole and it it might I don't mean to raise the ire of you. So please, listen through. When they are calling you the name and number, I don't I'm not asking you promises. You can go off on me if you want. When they are calling you the name and number, that is actually an executive level contract. Your name is registered as a result of vital statistics. That is an executive level branch government function. SSM is also part of the executive level branch, and it is a result of The Hague 43 public order and safety and 55 of The Hague, the administration of user front.
So you have an executive level contract, which you're enforcing now so The US can fulfill its obligation. You are doing what is required of you under the constitution and the contract. The contract is the birth certificate and the SSN. No need to be afraid of it if you understand its purpose. Its purpose was not to enslave you, but to free you. If you're going to claim ownership of it, it will enslave you because you're making claim to a use of fraud. The beneficiary of everything is the state, not you. The intentional beneficiary is the state. They intended to receive a benefit from this interest or property. If you're using it and not giving anything back, now you know where the tax comes due on you. The use of fraud comes back. You claimed ownership of the name and decide not to give anything back. You argue with them and said, that's not me. There is no authority to use that name for personal identification. It is strictly for accounting purposes for what you are doing.
Anyway, that's our Where
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are you getting where are you getting all that kind of stuff?
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That that is an article from it was kind of a compilation of articles that was, from, question and answer that, I believe Boris and Friends were doing. Boris Ericsson is doing. He he's in Tampa, by the way. So so you're in Tarpon Springs, I think, is where the PGA plays a tournament. I've been I've been over there. Could be.
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I I can tell you one thing that stuck out at me. He said the contract was a birth certificate. That's not true. You're born into the condition the birth certificate represents that we think is a warehouse receipt. It doesn't cause the connection. You're already born into it whether you got a birth certificate or not.
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K?
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Right. I mean, I think there's a franchise like that that presumes speaks as a George Harvey interest in the live event. They they create, that out of the result of the god you know, the force majeure, which would be the act of god. Right? The the conception.
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Okay. Well, you know, it's what we do is so simple and crap like that is so complex that people trying to find some kind of answer that they can justify. And I I don't know about any of that. I don't care about any of that. I care about what we do because I understand it, and I know it works. And they recognize it. I don't know if they recognize any of that other stuff. So the my my my but what I have found
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you you bring that kind of stuff you you you pardon me? Sorry. Fungal fumble fingers. I hit the wrong button and and threw a ding in there.
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Okay.
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Why is he in why is he in federal prison? He shouldn't be in federal we can get him out of federal prison. Who's this? A contract. It's all financial. This is George. You know, the fell the fellow you said, Rainier, unless he unless he killed somebody, but Rainier the guy Rainier, you said, Keith Rainier, I think you said. Why is he in federal prison? There shouldn't be anybody really in federal prison. What was the name of that?
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Somebody said it a minute ago. Him and him and one of the Bronfman girls had this sex ring, and, he he would brand these girls with his initials and all kinds of stuff. Bronfman, we've been in for four years. He she just got out, I believe, recently, and he's in jail for life, Keith Ranieri. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I missed you. Nothing to do with taxes that was anything else. It's about sex parties Gotcha. And branding young girls with true crime. With their Was it Nexium, Roger? Nexium was the name of it. It was a couple of years ago. So no connection whatsoever, George. Okay?
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Alright.
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Yeah. I don't know about all that other stuff. I because to me, it doesn't it's not right. That doesn't cause any jurisdiction. It is caused when you're born. You're born to parents who were also in the system. You're born in the feudal system. That's why they ask you the two questions. So I just don't pay attention to that other kind of stuff because I know we've got answers here. If you wanna continue to explore and think that we don't have the right answers, that's certainly your prerogative. But, all that other stuff just it it just makes no sense because it's not right.
It's people trying to get the answers that we've got here, and they always make it so complex and it's around the all cap and the birth certificate where, really, it's not at all. They've already missed the point.
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What? You're right. I don't know if you were hearing me. I think what it's getting at is the financial part of the equation because Well, it could be. I I've listened. I don't know. Earlier about, you know, we'll still be using silver and gold. We're still participating in the fourteenth amendment franchise when we buy and sell. You know what I'm saying? We're talking to two different people. Yep. Well, so are all the other people in the world because the dollar is a reserve currency. Does that mean they they fall under the jurisdiction of The US too? Yes. I believe it's a world system myself, and that's why I believe that the people that use the dollar to diversity of citizenship
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as well. Okay. Does that mean that the people all over the world that use the dollar, are they subject to the jurisdiction of the federal government too? Down here in Ecuador, we're on the dollar. Are these, are these, so the Ecuadorians
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down here,
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George, the Ecuadorians down here, we're on the dollar. So you think they're all over under your S jurisdiction widen the IRS and EPA and all those other agencies down here, whipping them into shape?
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I would argue that, yes, it is, as a result of the the, eighteen eighteen sixty three banking act and the civil war that that was a a beginning of the war economy, which was designed to the world wars and everything else. So, yes, I think it was a whole plan, and we talk about that, the Chalmunid plan. So, I mean Hold it. I think you're a group here. Fits all of the puzzle. Alright. You're trying to tell me the Ecuadorians because they use the dollar along with Panamanians and there's a couple other countries that you that those are all under your jurisdiction,
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and they can tax them, send to any agency, or do any of that stuff simply because they use the dollar in exchange? Is that what you're trying to feed us? Not simply. I think there's other there's other agreements. There's treaties. I mean, Ecuador is Hague. Right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Is that I have no idea. I've never checked into it.
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I'm in. Frankly.
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I just don't put any faith in all that because it doesn't have anything to do with what we do. If you wanna find out how they do it, the financial stuff in the background, be be my guest. It doesn't matter to somebody getting free. And that's all I care about. I I wanna keep it as simple as possible without all those complications that almost inevitably lead to a dead end. Yes, Paul?
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With respect to the financial back end, if the if they're treating the birth certificate as a warehouse receipt with a CUSIP number on it or a CUSIP number associated with a Social Security number that is associated with that birth certificate, it is a financial instrument.
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That's why it's locked in a safe under armed guard. Well, it's a wear well, god, it's a warehouse receipt. It represents a good. Of course, it's got financial viability.
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Right. So it's a financial instrument.
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So I don't know, George. Don't put much credence in that myself personally. If you wanna delve into that stuff,
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be my guest. Sure. Yeah. And I'll, yeah, I'll, I'll let you know. I'm gonna definitely report. I wouldn't do tell anybody about anything unless I did it myself. So that's why I was trying to do, like, the latest thing I did was challenge the jurisdiction of the assessor. And then I'm gonna be, sending in the kids' birth certificates to get them authenticated, and and then I'll put them all into the county. So I will let people know what their implications are. Sure. Definitely, Verizon has not shut off my phone. First, when I send in my bill, they didn't shut off my phone yet. So we'll see. I can still talk to you. Alright. Good deal. Yeah.
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Alright. I yield. Yep. Thank you, George. Anybody else got comments there on on anything George said? I just don't put much credence in all that stuff because it doesn't really have anything to do with jurisdiction. K? I mean, nothing. So, yes, Samuel, is that you?
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Yeah. I I sent yesterday, I sent you a video on, why the Jews aren't the chosen people. That would be a great one to send to your lunch buddies.
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No. I'm not I'm not they won't watch it. These people are totally close minded. I told you about the guy yesterday. He's got these foot and leg problems. He has to go back to The States to get prescriptions all all the time and stuff. And, so I brought the wand one day, and I laid it out there for told everybody at lunch is this. You might wanna try it. So here he's got these problems. He goes over there for two minutes, not anymore, runs it over his his foot and legs and said it doesn't work and went home. That's kind of closed minded people I'm dealing with.
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Judge judge Napolitano also did an interview with, Ryan Dawson on, Epstein and that whole thing. Pretty good interview. And, basically, Dawson, who's done a lot of research, she said there really isn't a list, so they got plausible deniability there. He says, but when there's hundreds of millions of dollars of lawsuits that been been paying out in court cases, he says, you can make a list like I did where you have all these people testify flying to exactly what happened under Epstein and those people.
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Well, Alan Dershowitz, who was party to some of those lawsuits with Jizel and the gal that committed suicide, says there is a list. I'm under seal. I can't talk about it, but there is a list. And I can tell you I know who's on it, and I can tell you why they're withholding it. That's Alan Dershowitz
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k. For whatever that's worth. Well, Dawson said that the Brother? Dawson Dawson said they wouldn't have put a list up because that would be moronic. He says, but with all the court testimony, he says, you can make a list of just like I did of all the people who claimed to be molested, etcetera, and who have been killed. And he he he says that's a list, but it's not the one that they're talking about. He says there's the black book, but you can't associate everybody there as being suspect. But from court testimony, he says there's plenty of people that are implicated.
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Okay. Well, he's probably right. Yes, Julie. I heard you. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. I wanted to just elaborate on what Samuel was saying right now. There is a, video today from, again, from Benjamin Fulford. I mean, I know he's controversial. Nobody really knows where how he knows all this stuff, but he is saying that Gislaine Maxwell testified that, Trump is on video, torturing children at Epstein Island. Don't have any proof of that, but I think what people are gonna find out if they release this is that this is just so global. Like, there are just so many you'd have to send everybody in Congress to Gitmo and many world leaders, and that's why they're not gonna ever release this. I I don't know. It would it would collapse the whole world system. Everybody's in on it. MVI six,
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Mossad. See I mean, I heard the girl you heard that girl you heard that girl, interviewed the other day on
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Virginia Virginia Giuffre.
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No. No. No. No. The one that was just interviewed from Africa the other day on Owen sitting in for Alex in the fourth segment. And she said he told me he went the whole story. She told the whole story. She said he told me he was CIA. She She repeated it more than once. Okay?
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And she said, scared to death and scared to go out. Giuffre. And that's what that's what Virginia Giuffre said too. But, apparently, it's MI six. It's CIA. It's FBI, it's all of the intelligence agencies who are involved in all of this child sex trafficking and and blackmail and videotaping of horrendous things against children.
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Alright. Well, it's the Jews that this is one of their favorite things. Hold on. The Jews, one of their favorite things is blackmail. That's one they they do it all the time. Okay? It's a cheap way to get somebody totally compromised. Joe, was that you trying to say something?
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That was May. Heard on the news early this morning that Thomas Massey is pursuing some kind of procedural action to bring all of this to the congress and and have hearings. And, oh, speaker of the house helped me.
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Johnson. Mike Johnson?
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Yeah. Yeah. He, he's getting a lot of heat on this, and he is supposedly, caving and leaning toward congressional hearings. Well, I John, I just That that's just mainstream media.
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Maxwell wants to wants to testify in front of Congress. Just lame, evidently. Yeah. Is and that is not going away. Trump is gonna try and defer it by naming a special counsel, which means three years of three years of investigation or whatever. So we'll see. It's good. But it's gotten real out of Roger. It's gotten real out of hand, and and, it's great. It's hell hell of an interesting deal. Yes, Julie?
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Yes. So just to, just to elaborate on what, is it Joe who just spoke? Yes. It, Thomas Massey has introduced a discharge petition to force a vote in the US House of Representatives on releasing the complete file.
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Yeah. Unfortunately, Congress has all been to the Wailing Wall.
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Yeah. And a complete release is what have they taken out already? How have they scrubbed? They've have the important people been scrubbed? Trump's got a very legitimate point. A lot of people could be tainted with this that aren't guilty. Okay? That's legitimate. Alright? So I I don't know where it's gonna go, but, boy, the longer it goes and the bigger it gets, the better off we are, the more the Jews are talked about and discussed, which they can't stand. And the more Harrison Smith spent over thirty minutes on this morning's, second hour there on Israel.
At what they're doing to pass they they murdered, a couple of adults and six children at a place to get water yesterday and, with a missile. And they said, oh, well, our calibration was off. It would it it fell short. You know, all the usual stuff. They're fixing to build another concentration camp down there on where Rafa is. It ev looks like they're gonna try and get the Palestinians and and move them and relocate them up somewhere into Syria. Now they've got control of Syria. So it's just more and more and more, they just keep killing people. The world hates Netanyahu. He's probably the most hated leader in the world today, Netanyahu.
And the more they do it, the more they're gonna hate them. So, the more they prove who they are. Yes, ma'am. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. It just came out that president Trump just doubled down calling Epstein files a hoax hoax cooked up by Democrats and corrupt intel officials. And now he, and and the attorney somebody asked him what evidence have you seen of that? And he said that, I it's not the attorney general. I know it's a hoax, and he's now tying it into the Steele dossier trying to put it trying to sweep it under the carpet. And, anyway, he says it's a hoax. So Well, of course, that's bull. That's that's pretty much in this.
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Everybody knows that's pretty much total bullshit, and I hate seeing resort to that. He's totally destroying his base here, folks. Yes. Samuel. Samuel and John, I think.
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Yeah. Everybody needs to see that that video, why they are not the chosen people. It's a hour and twenty three minutes, but it's broken into short segments. You can watch them at your leisure. And I'm telling you, you could send any one of those segments to keep target people that have this this Zionist idea and all this other crap that these people have been selling for centuries.
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They won't watch it. They're closed minded. You cannot change their mind is my experience. They are the chosen people, but chosen by which god is the question and for what? That's how you get access to that, Roger. Okay. Good. Well, I watched part of it last night, and I thought, well, I pretty well know everything he's going over. But, if I have the chance, I'll watch more of it, Samuel. I've got it up there dialed up. It's pretty comprehensive
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because he gets into every detail that these people have been using against us and breaks it down and destroys it. Good. Well, good for him. More people need to be doing that.
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They're exposing themselves, actually. So, you know, my old saying, give a monkey enough rope, and he'll hang himself every time. Even these monkeys will do that. Joan?
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Not sure how long ago, but not too long ago, Elon Musk said Trump is on the list Yeah. On Epstein. Right. Right. That was in the middle of his of his feud. So that's right. He did say that.
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So, I I don't believe Trump's that kind of guy, but many of you do. So whatever. So who else has got something to bring forward here on a controversial Patriot birthday? Hey, Shane. You wanna wish me happy birthday? Hey.
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I apologize.
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That's why I called. To wish you a happy birthday. Well, okay. You know how they say that in Spanish? You know how they say that in Spanish, Shane?
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I did once upon a time, but I forgot.
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Feliz. Happy completed years. So there you go. There's there's your Spanish lesson for the day. Well, thank you, Shane, for your belated wishes. I'll have a smile on my face today all day long because of that. So what else, Shane? What else what's going on on out there in San Jose? Well, I really wanna put this book into everyone everyone's hands. We're gonna try and get it up there. Some kind of fun. Are you gonna buy a copy? Are you gonna buy a copy for everybody or what?
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Maybe two. What I'm doing now is I found out I found out that, the publishing company I found out was in Canada, Ontario, Canada.
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So I'm not sure where you wanna go with that. I I'm not either. Paul and these guys are a little more proficient at this than me or looking into it. Paul, should that make any difference as the printer's in Canada?
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No. It shouldn't.
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Okay. Alright. Good enough. Well, thank you, Shane. Alright. We're gonna try and follow-up on it. I want the book out there too. Okay. So thank you for reminding us and putting a little little bunsen burner under our rear end.
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Thanks. I want this in everyone's hands.
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Okay. Well, we do too, Shane. Hopefully, they'll read it. You know, it's unfortunate. The, the the the survey that came out within the last year, 53% of the people in the country can't read above a third grade level, and twenty one percent in the country are totally illiterate. So probably everyone might not be a good beneficiary.
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Well, it'll be a a good try.
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Okay. Alright. Well, I'll buy that. Yeah. So, you know, Shane how Shane and I, he used to be a listener years ago. And at first, I said
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Yeah.
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I said, what did I tell you? I said, if anybody can't afford a book, send me a sob story, and I'll send you one. And Shane sent me this big sob story, and I sent him a book. And, all these years later, here he is. So thank you, Shane. Even though I'm pretty sure you could've I'm pretty sure you could've afforded one back then, but I didn't test you on that.
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Okay. Remember?
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Code code of federal regulations?
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Yeah. I'm not sure.
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Ego Geo No. GFR. That's Truth Frequency Radio. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I used to listen to Shane when he will call Jim Ram
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over there on Truth Frequency. Okay. There you go. Shane. I see. And, Chris Ego over there that ran that place.
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Yep. Yep.
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Yep. So are they still on the air, Dave? I guess they are.
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You know, as far as I know, Roger, I don't think I I can't They don't there's no call and listen line anymore, so I don't go looking for them. I don't do computers, and I can't everybody that I used to listen to is gone. The last guy was Jim Ram, and, he he he left too because I don't know why. I can't remember. We talked about it, but he couldn't get ahold of Chris anymore. And, I don't know what the hell happened to Chris. You know, his his wife had a lot of health problems. Bitch. And, they were they were in the medical mafia, and she had surgeries and all kinds of stuff. And Sheree, They, I don't know what happened to them.
Well But, I I used to love listening to Jamatria effect over there every Wednesday night at nine to midnight. And, man, I learned so much from that. And he he there was, like, in the last days that he was there. I'd you'd you'd call the the listen line, and sometimes he'd be on it and sometimes he wouldn't. He said his his board didn't work anymore, and, finally, he just gave up. And, he just does, YouTube now and, that, Patreon or something like that. I guess. Yeah. That
[01:43:45] Unknown:
I know He he was a programmer guy, and he really that was a nice system to work on, because for one thing, when the callers called in, he had it tied to ID, and he'd give you the ID. So I'm sitting there. I was after the election where Trump won the first time. Brent was on on a Friday. Somebody called, and I noticed the ID. It was a June Greenberg or something. And so the guy comes in, and he's going, well, don't you think it'd really be nice to have a female president? And he was trying to lead us into something. And I I said, sir, is this your cell phone?
And right then, he knew he'd been busted. See? And, he ended up hanging hanging up, but he was gonna try and call in, cause trouble. Another one of these Jew baskets. You know? So, anyway, yep. That was a nice feature on that on that system was having that caller ID.
[01:44:46] Unknown:
Right.
[01:44:47] Unknown:
So, anyway, don't miss him, mister Ego. You can go on. It doesn't sound like he's as enthusiastic about TFR as he used to be. Let's put it that way. K?
[01:44:59] Unknown:
So Yeah. I'm not sure what happened. I think they're having health problems, both of them, and, they just disappeared. It it's just so weird because, the the t the, truth frequency guy, Zach Hubbard, he he said he tried to contact Chris dozens and dozens and dozens of times, and he got dead air. And, Jim said the same thing.
[01:45:25] Unknown:
Well, okay.
[01:45:27] Unknown:
So they just fell off the face of the earth, man. It's weird. Anyway, happy
[01:45:32] Unknown:
born on day, Roger. Thank you. Happy. Another one bites the dust. Another one of my ex wives goes down there. Almost all of them, but our BN have gone down.
[01:45:45] Unknown:
Hey. They're struggling right now, man. They are they're stumping for money, hard money right now, all last week. Uh-huh. And, every day, they're all, you know,
[01:45:57] Unknown:
they got some big bills coming up, and they need, like, $3 is what they're saying. I, I you know, again, thank god for what we've got here. We don't have to worry about that. So, those people need to switch platforms. Well, you'd think so. You'd know Tom knows about this. You'd think he'd try and implement it over there, cut some of that overhead. But, anyway, we'll see where it goes. I wish him the best, of course. So, who else has got something to add to the conversation here today? We got about 15. This is Chris from California. Hey, Chris. Here you go. You always come in at the tail end of the show. How are you doing?
[01:46:35] Unknown:
Well, I wanna hear what's going on first. Sure, man. What's what's the title of the book, that you're talking about? Which which book? It is be it's being printed from California. Shane brought it up.
[01:46:51] Unknown:
Oh, my book. The title is From Sovereigns, sir, Government by the Treachery and Deception of Words.
[01:47:01] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Is is there a shortage of the books?
[01:47:04] Unknown:
Well, it's not up anywhere to be bought hard copy at this point because the problems I had with the previous publisher. And, I just threw my hands up and said f it, you know, and made the ebook available to everybody. Hopefully, we'll have the printed copy, back up and available here sometime shortly, Chris.
[01:47:27] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. And, what you mentioned about, what caused your awakening having something to do with, Bill Clinton?
[01:47:37] Unknown:
Well, it was on the night of his first acceptance speech that I watched a tape by a guy named Al Carter out of Utah. Do you remember him? He was around about thirty something years ago. Well, he was just a PA wide triad. He was proffering, he'd stolen, all of Phil Marsh's stuff and was doing a presentation to an audience. That's the tape that I saw. Were you familiar with Phil Marsh, Chris?
[01:48:06] Unknown:
Yes. Okay.
[01:48:08] Unknown:
He's right. It was thirty three years ago. So that's what woke me up. And, all these years later, it's never let go.
[01:48:22] Unknown:
And then suggestion.
[01:48:25] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[01:48:26] Unknown:
They, you ever think of doing an audiobook for us ding a lings that don't read? And I would suggest Brent Bachman as the,
[01:48:38] Unknown:
the orator of that. I've had I've had would be. I had it suggested a a number of times. I don't have the eyesight to do it right now. But, yeah, it's been suggested. Okay? Never gone much further than that. I would I wasn't gonna do it, and, nobody else has done this kind of technical stuff, you know, a lot of it in the back part. But, anyway, it's been suggested before. We've never moved on it. Okay?
[01:49:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Brent Bachman, start reading a book and what tape recorder, man?
[01:49:16] Unknown:
Be it be it. Hey. I'm sure AI could do it in a flash in Brent's voice.
[01:49:21] Unknown:
Probably could. Probably could. I don't have anybody to help me do all that stuff. I don't have a frigging staff here. I can't do it. So it doesn't go anywhere. Okay. So, who else has got something got about, about ten minutes left. Nobody else got anything. I think we got a staff, Roger,
[01:49:47] Unknown:
and it's not a stick.
[01:49:50] Unknown:
Well, let's put it this way right now Up to lately, I haven't had. And, look, I've been fighting this for many years. I'm I'm only gonna do so much.
[01:50:03] Unknown:
K? I know. Alright. Right. We gotta take it on ourselves if that's gonna happen.
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's probably true. So, who else, who else has got something this morning? Roger. Roger. Yes, sir. I think that's Sketch, isn't it?
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Yes. This is Sketch. And, happy remembrance day. Thank you. So there was there was some talk about, the, birth certificate as warehouse receipt, and there was talk about, bond bonds related to that, I think. And I was wondering where does the true ownership of The US citizens rest?
[01:50:42] Unknown:
Well, it would rest in the, International Monetary Fund, I would think.
[01:50:49] Unknown:
So that is where okay. So we we don't know actually because when you say there are some bonds, we don't know who owns those bonds, but you're saying it's in the IMF. Well, I don't know because they sell them. I don't have any idea who owns them. Right. Well, I just wanted to point one thing out that, during the feudal system, they knew who their owners were. And during slavery, the slaves knew who their owners were, but I guess the citizens really can't find out.
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Well, your direct owners are. The direct owners of the federal government under the International Monetary Fund. The secretary of the treasury is in charge of all that sketch. It says in title 28 there, the secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund. That is the International Monetary Fund. So, technically, they probably own you, but they've leased you out, And they've sold your services to whoever the bond owner, the buyer of the bond is. So even when the bond's paid off, they they they they don't own your labor anymore. It reverts back to The United States, I would imagine.
[01:52:00] Unknown:
I gotcha. So, basically, they're the agents,
[01:52:04] Unknown:
for those bonds. Yeah. That's Okay. They're really just leasing those bonds.
[01:52:10] Unknown:
Okay. That's probably true. You know?
[01:52:14] Unknown:
Roger.
[01:52:15] Unknown:
How are you? Okay. Thank you, Sketch. Yes. Who had Roger there?
[01:52:20] Unknown:
Hello, Samuel. I was having the same feeling as Dave that, AI probably is capable. So I looked it up, and there's a lot of sources where you can take go from text to audiobook through AI. So, it'd be something with a better technical background to look into. Maybe Paul or somebody could take a look at some point. I just looked it up on Brave, their, AI. And there's a whole bunch of stuff there listing sources.
[01:52:51] Unknown:
Alright. Alrighty. So, who else? If you send me a book. Send me a book. No. Buy one, Shane. Oh, of course. I'll let you know when's available.
[01:53:10] Unknown:
And now Mark was saying just use the one he's got.
[01:53:13] Unknown:
I don't think it's the one Mark was saying that he wants to also see if we can get on Amazon and that when you do, there's just a way on Amazon you can say you can take down the price to barely above the printing for few days or a week or whatever. Anyway, that may be an option too. I've never put the book on Amazon. Other people have. K? So for whatever that's worth.
[01:53:40] Unknown:
Roger? Yes, Dave. I I've heard a lot of authors on different radio shows say how they get ripped off from Amazon.
[01:53:48] Unknown:
I know. That's why I don't I've never put it over there, Dave.
[01:53:52] Unknown:
Yeah. And they pay they don't pay them. You know, Rick doctor Richard Allen Miller, docram.com. You guys look that guy up. He's incredible. He's written dozens of books, and he was he thought he was selling them on Amazon. Amazon was selling them, but they didn't pay him anything for him. There you go. You know? And it's print on demand. And he that that guy got a huge following, and he never got a penny.
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Well, that's why I've had had no desire to feed Jeff Bezos quite frankly. Other people stole my book early on. They stole a copy and put it over there and, on through Amazon, sold about 60 something copies. And, before I caught them and got that stopped real quick.
[01:54:42] Unknown:
Comment.
[01:54:44] Unknown:
Hello, Joe.
[01:54:47] Unknown:
Just to make you feel good, Roger, today is the anniversary also of Amazon selling its first book. Oh, really? Okay. Well, good for Amazon. Yeah. Hate I hate to burst your bubble, but
[01:55:02] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I'm sure they've screwed a whole lot of people.
[01:55:06] Unknown:
So, We know that.
[01:55:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Well, we're we're edging slowly towards the end of the program here. So if you had a question or a comment, now is your time because I won't be hanging around after the show today because I've got this interview in the afternoon. So, anybody else got something this morning? Nobody? Well, we'll see how the news develops today. It should be quite interesting. And, that's what we got. So was that someone clearing their voice there to say something?
[01:55:43] Unknown:
No. That Yeah. That was just me. I was thinking about letting you know we only got about six minutes of the show left. So Alright. Well, yeah, I know. You'll be proceeding with your day directly.
[01:55:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Pretty quick. Roger, did you hear Greg Gregory Mannerino? What do you think of what he he says the value you only have 4% left of the value of the dollar.
[01:56:09] Unknown:
I think it's I think it's less than that. I think that's optimistic. So anything else? You got any questions about life on Uranus or anything? Waheed?
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Waheed, look at it this way.
[01:56:29] Unknown:
He said Gold Gold.
[01:56:31] Unknown:
Said that they get the political establishment is gonna steal the 2% and leave us with the other 2%.
[01:56:38] Unknown:
Well, alright.
[01:56:41] Unknown:
Look at it this way. Gold used to be 300 an ounce. Actually, it was 250 an ounce. Yeah. Now it's 1. 3,400. Yeah. Okay? So what happened? Did gold actually get more expensive, or did the dollar lose value?
[01:56:59] Unknown:
The dollar lost value. That's how how much value the dollar's lost in the last twenty years is from under 300 to over 3,000. Mhmm. So if you're wondering about inflation, there it is.
[01:57:15] Unknown:
It's fixing to get worse if they keep printing money hand over fist just to buy junk bonds that nobody else wants.
[01:57:22] Unknown:
It's ridiculous what we're going into, and, hopefully I don't know that we'll hopefully, Trump's tariff thing will it has the ability to straighten things out. We'll see if it does or not. Don't know. Don't know. But I do know this. We're right at the end of the show. It's Wednesday, the sixteenth. My Patriot birthday rolls around once a year. And, we have a, interview this afternoon with Kevin Hoyt. Murr was real good. Sent me his Rumble page. I haven't had a chance to listen to it. I'll get a taste of his style here before we meet later this afternoon. But another good interview in the can. Evidently, the guy's got a pretty pretty big audience or access to one, so we will see how it goes.
[01:58:13] Unknown:
And that's Would you be broadcasting
[01:58:15] Unknown:
that here on FCC?
[01:58:17] Unknown:
No. We will not. No. No. I won't.
[01:58:20] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That the,
[01:58:23] Unknown:
the video that Samuel was talking about, why the Jews are not God's chosen people, that is on YouTube. It is on the Dance of Life podcast with Tudor, t u d o r, Alexander. It's an hour twenty three minutes thirty five seconds.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
I'm surprised they've still let it on YouTube. Surprised it hasn't been banned.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
I don't know. But if they do ban it, I already have it downloaded, so who cares?
[01:58:52] Unknown:
There you go. Tada. So, well, kids, otherwise, we'll be back tomorrow. I'm sure sorry. Mark had had to have been emergency with his folks. I hope there's nothing too serious. But that's, that's the quagmire he's in lately, and I don't know if you've ever had to take care of an elderly parent or an elderly person, but it's quite demanding, k, on top of everything else he's involved in. So hope it wasn't anything serious today, Mark. And I I I'd love to see him be able to get a handle on that situation, and I know he's working towards that. So, hopefully, he'll get those things accomplished and get some of that off his back. It's a terrible burden. I mean, it's something that all of us should relish doing, but it's hard work.
[01:59:44] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:59:46] Unknown:
It's hard work, and it's very demanding. And, like you said, even his his mom was getting so bad, she can't even cook anymore. So he's having to do all the cooking and everything else, and I think he's not too far from maybe getting them in some sort of a home. So, close to their house. So we'll see. Anyway, I hope you got your questions answered. Nice to hear from Rex and Mike and some of the folks that chimed in today. Of course, we'll be back manana. Good lord willing, and the Creek Indians don't rise. And we'll see what's worth covering then. Maybe we'll have some new students.
Our growth is, don't forget, up to a lot of you, you've gotta you gotta go back and start talking to people about it. Okay? Just bring it up. Hey. Are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? What do you mean? How would you like me to show you how to get out of the tax system? That's probably a good opening question. There's a number of other ones. But, it's, it's up to us to grow this thing. And hopefully, I'll pry it this week. I'm gonna try and get that email off to Chase and, hopefully, Harrison with our information. They keep saying they'd like to partake of something like that could get them out of the tax system and stuff. So maybe we'll find a marriage there. Won't know till we try. You guys, I'm gonna ask for your help on this to follow-up with emails.
So, anyway, we'll talk more about it tomorrow, see what comes up between now and then. Paul, I'll see you later this afternoon, and, we'll, look forward to this conversation with Kevin. So see y'all tomorrow.
[02:01:25] Unknown:
Open your open your portable open your portable at, I don't know, about 02:30 or so. I will. Okay. I will. And it's 04:00 my time, 03:00 your time.
[02:01:36] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Okay. Groovy groovy. Alright. Anybody got anything else for me? I gotta go see a man about a horse. I will, I will see y'all manana.
[02:01:51] Unknown:
Have a great Roger, in that in that in that piece, why the Jews aren't the chosen people, there's a long clip of that woman saying, it's an old trick. We've been using it forever.
[02:02:03] Unknown:
She goes on and on. Got that in there? Okay. You put it in there? Good. Yeah.
[02:02:08] Unknown:
It's in there too. It's a a long version of it, though. Okay. Good
[02:02:12] Unknown:
enough. I'll, see y'all you brought Mike in in yeah. You you got enough of what we need on there, Paul. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Ciao.
[02:02:29] Unknown:
And nachos.
[02:02:32] Unknown:
See you later. Yeehaw.
[02:02:49] Unknown:
For anybody in memory lane, Dennis,
[02:02:52] Unknown:
over a decade ago, used to be a grand slam.
[02:02:56] Unknown:
Two double and triple scrambled eggs, French toast, sausage, bacon. For $1.99, $2.99. I haven't been there for about a decade. But now it's, like, $13.14, $15. It's still cheap. And the dollar has not lost value.
[02:03:18] Unknown:
Talk about funding your own slavery.
[02:03:20] Unknown:
And they don't call it a grand slam anymore. It's called a bunt.
[02:03:27] Unknown:
You're kidding.
[02:03:29] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:03:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Hope so.
[02:03:32] Unknown:
It's a grand slam on the dollar.
[02:03:35] Unknown:
Talk about funding your own slavery. You buy a grand slam, and you wind up a slave to a porcelain throne.
[02:03:47] Unknown:
Last time I was at Danny's, the grand slam was no longer, and that was about a month ago.
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Oh. Yeah. They hit it right out of the park forever. Never to be retrieved. Well, they they sell now everything individually, so they're able to charge more.
[02:04:06] Unknown:
And most Well, when the egg were really high, they were charging you extra, like, 50¢ an egg.
[02:04:13] Unknown:
By the way, those eggs are not egg. They're powder,
[02:04:18] Unknown:
and they and they make it scrambles. You're not even eating you're eating a chemical.
[02:04:25] Unknown:
And not all. I How do you get over easy eggs, some powder?
[02:04:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't get that is precisely why I don't get them scrambled. And if I do get them scrambled, I want them lightly scrambled so I can see the white and the yolk or just give them to me, basted in sunny side up.
[02:04:48] Unknown:
We finally got a Denny's over here, and I actually asked her. I said, can I get actual real eggs? She goes, oh, I can give you real eggs. So she she obviously got the request before. So
[02:05:00] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:05:06] Unknown:
Cool.
[02:05:10] Unknown:
Well, are we gonna continue talking, or am I gonna take the stream down?
[02:05:15] Unknown:
You're getting eggs by operation of law.
[02:05:19] Unknown:
Carl,
[02:05:20] Unknown:
did you know
[02:05:21] Unknown:
that Denny's That's like Oregonian's. Is not
[02:05:25] Unknown:
is not a franchise. They are that is a privately held corporation.
[02:05:33] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:05:35] Unknown:
There's no franchises on it.
[02:05:39] Unknown:
And our team is, I believe, by law too. Right? They just keep finding what are going on because
[02:05:46] Unknown:
Paul, could you please post the link to the the interview today? I I came in late.
[02:05:55] Unknown:
That it's a private interview. It's going to be recorded and broadcast later. There there won't be any public presentation today.
[02:06:07] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:06:09] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[02:06:15] Unknown:
I just had I'm doing pretty good. I just had a thought. I'm looking for a dehumidifier. Timo's got a pretty cheap one, but I'll have to wait until next month to get it. I'm thinking, I'm thinking what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna gonna use a dehumidifier. It'll make my house more comfortable. I'll be able to reclaim that water. I'll run it through my Berkey filter, and I'll actually have, distilled water. You know what I mean?
[02:06:50] Unknown:
How about Facebook? How about Facebook marketplace? Facebook marketplace?
[02:06:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Facebook Marketplace. Those guys are nuts. There isn't anything within 200 miles of me, and they want between a 100 and $200. I can get one for $60 from Timu. It'll be here in four days. So Facebook Marketplace can, can stick it up their marketplace. Yeah. $61.88
[02:07:16] Unknown:
for a they got?
[02:07:18] Unknown:
$61.88 for a 45 point a pint dehumidifier. Graded 22 pints a day. That's enough.
[02:07:27] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:07:28] Unknown:
I'm not talking craziness here.
[02:07:33] Unknown:
Where it happened to Craigslist?
[02:07:37] Unknown:
Yeah. But but the nearest, Craigslist hub is Utica Utica, Rome, and that's, between eighteen and thirty five miles away. I really don't have the car to actually go hunting around looking for stuff. So, I'm thinking I'm gonna have to, figure out a way to actually have it delivered. But, anyway, I gotta wait until next month to, pull the trigger anyway, so it's not a big deal. At least at least I got a good idea of where to go to get one. Yeah. I was thinking I might be able to find one for, like, $25 within five miles. I mean, no. That ain't happening. Not a chance.
[02:08:30] Unknown:
Do you have a a thrift store, like a starvation army or anything near you? Yeah. I have one. I was there a week ago. They didn't have anything. Okay.
[02:08:41] Unknown:
And they're they're usually pretty proud. Order. Yeah. They're they're usually pretty proud of their appliances anyway. Not such a great deal.
[02:08:59] Unknown:
Oh, so you're saying being proud, they charge more than they should. Yes. Uh-huh. I get it.
[02:09:09] Unknown:
Yep. I I mean, you can get deals on some things, you know, like a a pan lid for a quarter or a frying pan for 75¢ or a saucepan for a buck. But anything that's, anything that's equipment, you know, like, waffle iron, coffee maker, iron, humidifier, dehumidifier, anything like that, they're very proud of them.
[02:09:36] Unknown:
Very.
[02:09:39] Unknown:
Well, I did that dehumidifier with the Berkey, for a couple years, and, I put a silver dollar in top and bottom. And, that was some of the best water we ever drank.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I have, I have, point nine nine nine copper screen. Somebody's, messing with bags or or opening licorice or something like that.
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Is that you, George? That was me. Wow. You can hear that? It ain't pain. You can hear that. I'll be myself. It's George. Thank you. I was just ripping I was ripping up the names on, on envelopes, and I was contemplating on how the name, is, is basically the if you look at the back to the birth certificate, you basically are just telling them back the information that they gave you on the birth certificate when you're dealing with the separation between who you are as flesh and blood and who that piece of paper is. But sorry. I I digress. Let's go back to talking about the sacred things.
[02:10:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The, that's what I intended to do with, dehumidifiers, just run the water through my Berkey, and my Berkey is, three stage. It has a Brita filter on the top. It has, Berkey carbon filter in the middle and a fluoride filter on the bottom, and I have, I have, magnets between stages two and three to, to draw any, ferrous metals, to the magnet to sequester them. I have, silver wire, four nine fine in the second stage, and, three nine fine copper screen in the bottom stage. So I've got the silver, the copper, and, the filtered.
[02:11:45] Unknown:
That ought to work. Damn, dude. That's a hell of a setup. Nice.
[02:11:51] Unknown:
Yeah. It's all five gallon buckets. Cost me a $160 including filters. Not bad. It's a food grade buckets. Fluoride filters in the bottom. But but is it did that come from Berkey, or did you buy that separate? Or Came from Berkey. All the filters and stuff I I have, I came from Berkey.
[02:12:19] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks.
[02:12:21] Unknown:
And every single every single, well, not my cat anymore. My cat drinks tap water, but, everything I drink is certainly filtered. My cat just goes through too much. Upgrade those filters, Paul.
[02:12:38] Unknown:
Think about the Alexa Pro. It does not need to be, primed. Those filters do not need priming, and I found it very difficult priming those Berkey filters with that tiny little hole.
[02:12:54] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
Yeah. So, anyway and then I I think the price. So those, Alexa peers, they they the prices are comparable, if not cheaper, at infowars.store or whatever it is. Infowarsstore.com.
[02:13:17] Unknown:
I was, I was thinking about using, I was thinking about using, James McKinney Water Science, but I don't like the way, his filters are used. They filter in from the inside and flow to the outside. Mhmm. And I don't like that.
[02:13:45] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:13:48] Unknown:
And I think aren't the filters in the the the clean water?
[02:13:56] Unknown:
No. No. The filters are in the second stage on the Berkey.
[02:14:00] Unknown:
Okay. No. No. I mean, on on McKinney's.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. They would be in the clean water. Yeah. They sit
[02:14:11] Unknown:
yeah. I I did I thought that was pretty weird too, and, I didn't like the, you know, the way the Berkey, the big Berkey set up. Those, arsenic filters are in the clean water as well. And I never I never hooked them up. I started using the dehumidifier right away, and I didn't use those. I still have them sitting in the drawer.
[02:14:35] Unknown:
Right.
[02:14:36] Unknown:
Well because I just think there'd be an arsenic in the air. Well well, here's what fluoride filter in the Berkey
[02:14:43] Unknown:
is in the clean water. Right? Yeah. Yeah. The fluoride filter is because the carbon filter is on top and the fluoride filter is on the bottom. But,
[02:14:53] Unknown:
of each carb of each carbon filter. Right. Not carbon filter. They're, ceramic.
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Right. Well, if you leave something in water, water will I mean, contaminants will ionically transfer from one side of the filter to the other. So, I don't really want anything in the clean water. I want it to drip into, into a reservoir and just leave it there. But I, I usually I usually keep, my bottom reservoir at four gallons or less, and the fluoride filters hang above that level. So it's not a big deal.
[02:15:47] Unknown:
Yeah. See, I got the big Berkey with the stainless steel tanks, and they it yeah. I'm not sure how much, I it just seemed like, an oxymoron to let that water fill up. I never even used them right. I just I actually bought when I see, Alex Jones used to have a guy on that was selling water generators, and I'm like, water generator? That's a freaking dehumidifier. I got one in my basement. So I started using I ordered a Berkey right away, and and I'm like, yeah. This is the way to go. It was awesome. Now we got we're on a well with, RO, and we don't do that anymore. But I do have a I still have a dehumidifier, and the Berkey's in a box.
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Yeah. You kinda you gotta watch out. Amazon's got, Alexa Pure Pro Gravity, compatible filter systems, $39.95 or $39.99 for two of them. No. That ain't legit. The only free ride is the rotation of the earth, and the flat earth society screwed that up. So, well, yeah, and it says frequently returned item. So you gotta watch out where you get your filters from for sure. Yeah. The Virigo Pro filter replacement is $42.99 each. So
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Yeah. I got a filter plus a, iTero care wand, and I got a glass, container. So, yeah, I do that too.
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Mhmm. Yeah. Well, I wanna do that. I mean, I don't wanna have to buy distilled water. And I figure if you take it out of the air if you keep your dehumidifier clean, that's the gig. If you keep it clean, you take the water out of the air and then filter it after that and treat it with, silver and copper, and there shouldn't be any problem drinking that. Should be just fine. That's my plan. I'm back in a minute, guys.
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May I say something to Dave in the dome, please?
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Go right ahead.
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Hey, Dave. You know, on last let's see. Was it Keno's Friday night with Gaddy? Can you hear me, Dave?
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I hear you. Oh, okay. I don't know what Dave.
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But I I I that's not Dave, though. Right? The voice sounds different.
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My name is Shane. Yeah. Hey. Yeehaw.
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But, I had a question for Dave because he's the only one who would know what I'm talking about. So I'll
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ask him
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later.
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Yes. Like, eighteen minutes after the hour.
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Right on. In my in my time zone. Right on. Is that is that your time and your time zone too, Shane?
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I have, 10:18, o o over here.
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Oh, 10:18. I'm 11:18. Hey, y'all. What does that 11:11 mean? I see that some people put, oh, 11:11. What's that about? I bet Dave in the thumb, he's numerology, maybe, kind of.
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You know, tarot tarot stuff?
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I don't know. I I just you know, eleven dot dot, you know, like, on a like, you know, when you're saying, like, 12:00 and the two dots, you put between the twelve and the two zeros, the two dots, vertical vertical. It's 11:11. I don't know. I don't know what it means. I I see it sometimes, like, people kind of like new age people or numerology people. Yeah. Like, that's something good or I think. I'm not sure. Never mind.
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Good thought.
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Joan, there's a book there's a ebook online. I can't remember where it's sold, but Zach Hubbard Zachary k Hubbard is the author, and I think it's called Letters and Numbers. And he teaches you all about gematria, how to do it, how to figure it out, and what all them numbers mean.
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Do you think that's do you think that's important and good to know? What are these numbers? What the numbers mean? I think it is. Okay. Hey, Dave. What I was gonna ask, can I ask about, kino's last Friday? Did you hear can I ask you a question right now, Dave?
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Yeah.
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Did you hear kino? I mean, Gaddy say that remember Stu Peters came up? And and and then I I I said, oh, what what are you saying about Stu Peter? I mean, yeah. You're calling
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And
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and Gaddy said, oh, he's bad. He You cut real. He said he said the USS Liberty are all those all those, what do you call sailors? All those sailors are are liars.
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That's what That's what Stu Peters said? Yeah.
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I was So
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yeah. I never heard that, and but I don't I mean, I believe Gaddy, if he heard that, but, and, you know, that that might have been before Stu Peters got the Jew bug because he now is I'd I'd like to hear somebody ask him about the USS Liberty today. Yeah. Okay. Because he's a totally different dude since he got that Jones. Somebody got a Jew, you know?
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Oh, okay. Yeah.
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Hey, Jones. He don't say they are liars. It what happened is he wanna go to Norfolk and to the anniversary. And, like, he was talking about the youth. They censor him from going to Norfolk, and he was the one giving lies to them, you know, like, putting them in the air for people to know. And that's why he say they are liars because he never, thought bad about them. He was just helping them to get, the, you know, what happened in The US Liberty to the people, you know, because a lot of people don't know about that.
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Agori, are you saying that Stu Peters recently said the sailors on the USS Liberty are liars?
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Yeah. But know about what happened in the in the incident. If not, why they saying about him going to Norfolk.
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You know what I mean? No. I'm sorry. I don't. Sorry.
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Okay. Yeah. He said they are liars because, they know they censor him to going, going to Norfolk in their anniversary. But he no say that they are liars in what happened to The US Liberty. You know what I mean? He don't say they are liars because they say that The US liberty, you know, never was hid. The, the, Israel never did nothing to that boat. No. He don't say that.
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Oh, he was calling the he was calling the Jews liars for saying it was an accident. Yeah. Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh. And because they don't let him go to Norfolk.
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Oh.
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I hear you.
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Thank you. Except for Gatti, last Friday night said to Peter said, I don't have to say it again, but I will. He said, well, I don't know. Maybe I'll talk to Gaddy more about it and see if he's got it mixed up, mixed around. Okay. Good. Thank you. Hey, Dave and the thumb. Dave?
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Hi, Joan. Where are you confirming?
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Do you have time for me to do you have time for me to ask you one more question?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. So so this neighbor of mine with the three year old boy that that got fully vaccinated, all his and, and he had seizures. Or, I mean, epileptic. I don't okay. I'm not even stressed. Where did they stop? You know when they started? Yeah. I have asked her I have I have asked her that in a text, and I I have not looked yet to see if she answered that question. But my question to you in the meantime is, if they did start app even if they started after or before, do you have any kind of from all your, you know, Youngevity or everything else you're involved in? Do you know if something good for seizures, if they if they even started before vaccination, or do or do you have something for if seizures started after vaccination?
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That boy needs to be on a ketogenic diet, high fat diet. Okay? Lots of eggs lots of eggs, beef, dairy, clean clean eggs, clean dairy, clean beef. You know, those are superfoods. They promote the the brain. And, you know, doc's got, something called a healthy brain and heart pack. And for a three year old child, that would probably last them four months or longer. You know, it all goes by body weight. So, and then, you know, and that that's got selenium. Selenium is a master mineral, and it's incredible for brain health. You know, all brain disorders are mostly a, a fat deficiency and a, selenium deficiency, but you can't just take selenium. You gotta take the other 89 cofactors that make it work.
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Okay. Great.
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So, yeah, there's there there is hope for this child. The parents have to be totally gluten free, and, they can definitely the body when you give the body the raw materials and the building blocks of life, the body does what it's supposed to do in most cases and especially in a three year old child. And you can't keep you know, all disease starts in the gut. Right? And it that the gut is the weakest link, and that's why the brain got affected. Now, you know, I somebody just walked in here, and I just got distracted. But, probiotics are very important for, you know, you know, the gut and the brain, and, and the the immune system, though, starts in the in the, bone marrow, and it's it's, it's collagen.
Collagen. Collagen. Collagen. And, you know, all our connective tissue is collagen, And, that you gotta strengthen that immune system. And, you know, that immune system is being attacked by, you know, by those vaccines. And, yeah, there's hope. So you gotta avoid those 12 bad foods, and, you know, eat eat from a ketogenic diet, and, you know, stop the ongoing damage. No you know, those vaccines are they don't help anybody, especially the children. And then the parents, you know, have to take care of those children and, you know, and they have no idea what they're doing. They just make you sicker. So the doctors are, mostly your worst enemies.
So Do But that's my own opinion.
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Thank thank you. And do you know, though, if if if the Really cool. Is what's the difference? If if the if the seizures started
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just Well, if you if if he was born with seizures Yeah. Then it's a birth defect. But the the ketogenic diet will help reduce that. And it it may you know, it it we don't know what the body's capable of, but most of the time, birth defects are not reversible. Okay? If it was if it was, you know, if it happened after and my guess is they came with those vaccines. And so then then those are definitely reversible, and they've they've got that child on drugs to prevent the seizures. But those those drugs, if you look at the side effects, they cause seizures.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, there's electrical current in our body and, you know, the it it and it the the nervous system grows out of the brain. The solid matter of the brain makes up 75% of brain weight, and it's it's almost a 100% cholesterol. The nervous system grows out of the brain down the, you know, spine out to all the far reaches of your body, and it's coated. The electrical it's like electrical wire, right, coming out of the brain, and it's coated with a myelin sheath. That's the insulation on it. And it's that sheath. Myelin is a 100% cholesterol.
So you gotta feed that body. Even though we make some cholesterol, we don't make enough. So you gotta feed that body, you know, high cholesterol foods to to ensure that the brain stays, you know, working properly and the nervous system works properly. And there's a there's a short in the circuitry somewhere that's what's causing those seizures. And normally, most of the time, it's that damn vaccine. Yeah. And it will probably go MMR. You know, three three and one. You go, we'll give you three for the price of one.
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So so so would it be if so, it would be good to get off of those, two epileptic or seizure drugs that she's on that she's on the little baby. The four three year old is on.
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They're not helping them. They're not helping the parents. And, yeah, if they're a nightmare, those things are a nightmare. And with the for the drugs and the vaccines that he keeps getting, you know, you gotta you gotta educate yourself. And, you know, our bodies don't have a deficiency of what's in those those vaccines, you know, to keep us from getting whatever they claim, they prevent. Most of the time, you get what they shoot you up with. You know? And the reason they're beating you up Yeah. Oh, yeah. We got a measles, vaccine so you don't get the measles, but most people that get the vaccine get the measles.
Yeah. And you said collagen collagen collagen. What's the collagen help? What how does that help? Collagen is is what your bone marrow is made out of. Oh. That's what the blood so all the blood platelets and blood cells all grow in your bone marrow, and the bone marrow's made out of collagen.
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Oh. Wow.
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So yeah. You feed the body collagen, and you feed the the immune system, and you feed the gut. You feed all your connective tissue. And think about what's connective tissue. Everything that's connected in your body is made out of connective tissue. Your skin is connective tissue. Your your, your all your organs are connective tissue. Your you know? So, yeah, you gotta you gotta support all those functions in your body, and it's and it's mostly 90 nutrients that do it. But then we got stuff like collagen that our secret sauce, as doc says, that, you know, you need those also. So
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gluten you said, is gluten just wheat?
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Is gluten just wheat? Bar no. Gluten is the protein in wheat, barley, and rye. And in oats, it's called gliadin, but it's the same identical protein with a different name, and they'll sell you oats all day long, gluten free oatmeal. And they've never had gluten in it. So they're lying to you when they say it's gluten free, like, oh, we did something. You can't remove the protein from the grain, and that's why you don't eat wheat, barley, rye, oats, corn, soy, or, buckwheat either. Mhmm. And yeah. If you go to that website, mytotalnutrition.com, you can see a good food, bad food list, the foods to avoid. There's videos you can watch about almost any health topic you can think of, and, they're really great. There's a lot and it's all everything from all those videos are mostly Wallach or things that were made because of Wallach.
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You said corn has gluten?
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No. Corn is genetically modified. Oh, yeah. And and and the corn pollen can travel up to 500 miles in twenty four hours. So any, you know, heirloom corn organic corn fields, if they're farther than 500 miles from a Monsanto or Syngenta field, you know, it it might be okay. But if it's within 500 miles of a of a, you know, roundup ready cornfield, don't don't, you know, turn around and run away from it. It's it's g GMO corn.
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Yeah. But is corn gluten?
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No. It is not. But it is on the bad food list because it's it's, it really has no food value. You know, it it could taste good with butter and salt, but butter and salt tastes good without corn. You know?
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Yeah.
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So No problem.
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Yeah. Thank you, Dave.
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You're welcome, Joan.
[02:36:48] Unknown:
Hi, Shane. Hi. Hey. I I was gonna suggest, HGH, human growth hormone.
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You know? You know, they changed that. Youngevity's, you're talking about? Oh, yeah. Complex. It's now called the HGH aminos, I think. Alright. They just changed the name. It's the same product. But, yeah, that's that's really great product for everybody. And, you know, you can really get ripped, using those aminos.
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Mark, do we give me aminos? And also,
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selenium. Yep. Selenium is very important.
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Yes. Yeah. I mentioned that selenium is a master mineral. Wait. You did your I thought you weren't supposed to have too much HGH
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that it, works. Actually not it's not actually HGH. It's the precursor to that. It's what this product makes your body, reproduce those stem cells that is the growth hormone in your body. It does. It isn't actually a growth hormone. While it would never give anybody any, any hormone, you know, supplements there, they just feed your body. So your body does what it's supposed to do, you know, make its own. Copy.
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Dave. Dave. Do you think it will be good for the three year old boy to take a Youngevity supplement, the minerals or the vitamin or any of it?
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Yeah. Absolutely. I would I would put them on a a, you know, a healthy brain and heart pack and some cherry mints. They taste they're awesome. The straight up minerals are they're pretty hard to take, but a child that age would probably take them. My grandson started chewing our essential fatty acid when he was, when he got teeth. And, he's still he's 12 now, and he still chews them. You ever chew fish oil capsules, Tim? Try that. He thinks it tastes like candy. Wow. I use it. It's called cherry? Still chewing. How's chewing? I swallowed them. When did you start swallowing them the other day? I swallow
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them now. Okay.
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Well, he used to chew them like gummy bears. He he just said he doesn't chew them anymore. But
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How do you spell it? Korean? How do you spell it?
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How do you spell what?
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The the chewable cherry, delicious, chewable fish oil that your
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Kyle was doing. It's our essential fatty acid, the EFAs. So in that healthy brain and heart pack, there's there's a bottle of ultimate EFAs, and there's a bottle of EFA plus, and you need them both. And, and then there's a bottle of selenium, and there's a canister of Beyond Tangy Tangerine and a canister or liquid bottle of, Beyond Osteo FX. He needs all of that stuff.
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And a three and a three year old okay. A three year old can take all that.
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Oh, absolutely. You just gotta break him down for his body weight.
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The price? Do you know?
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Oh, $1.01 I think a brain and heart pack is about $212, but that that would probably last a three year old with seizures maybe six months. Oh. Oh, man. How much he weighs?
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He just looked like a normal size three year old boy.
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So, what, forty, thirty, 40 pounds?
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Yeah. 40. Yeah.
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Yeah. Each vitamins for, is for 50 pound.
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Well, the scoop is for 50 pounds, but you can break that down, you know, by body weight to, you know Yeah. Five, ten, fifteen, twenty pound ranges. You know? Yeah. So if if one scoop is for 50 pounds, a half a scoop is for 25 pounds. Yep. Yeah. Right? And then and then because he if he let's say he weighs fifty pounds, you would give him a twenty five pound dose in the morning with breakfast and then another twenty five pound dose in the in the evening with with dinner. Yep. So he gets it twice a day instead of taking it all at once, and he's gonna sip on it, you know, for an hour or two. So he doesn't even buzzle it all right down, And that way, you get the most bang for your buck, and you're you're constantly feeding your blood this these nutrients.
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Take it with a meal,
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not between meals. You start you always start with with the meal because it's it is whole food, and you gotta be digesting it to to absorb.
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Thank you so much.
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You're welcome. Doctor Dave.
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No. I'm just I'm coach coach Dave. I'm just a Alright. Nutritional health coach, but, you know, I've been mentored by doctor Wallach, doctor Glinton, doctor Conway, and pharmacist Ben, and, and some others, you know. And I I just, absorbed it because, my gut was working right.
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Hey, Dave.
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Yes, Samuel.
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Have you ever heard of undecylenic acid?
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Not no. I don't think so.
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It's supposed to be an antifungal, anti candida kind of a thing, anti spring warm, you know, athlete's foot, all that stuff. I just use colloidal silver and I know it works.
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Yeah. My wife used colloidal silver and it doesn't work. It didn't work for you, Did you soak your feet in it?
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I'm soaking, but I'd rub it on.
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Okay. Soak your feet. Try soaking your feet in it with just that. And then and, you know, and then soak and you gotta take it by mouth. And how much did you take by mouth?
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Well, probably nothing.
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Okay. Well, you gotta take it internally and topically. And and, if it's nano silver, don't be afraid. You won't turn blue.
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I'm not afraid.
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Yeah. You know, my antidote for the jab was one ounce of colloidal silver five times a day and two ounces of Dox plant derived minerals three times a day. And, you know, I had a 80 year old lady that got jabbed and she was down for the count. And, in three days, she was up and around and never looked back.
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Okay.
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So I know it works. And, doctor Glidden couple weeks ago, said on that GoodHerbs call, he's got a buddy, a doctor, doctor Morton or something. I texted it, but and I got it in my somewhere in my text messages, but he said that the the feds raided his home about eleven months ago because he has a, an antidote for the jab. And they they at gunpoint in front of his children, they took all of his computers and, you know, everything associated with his, you know, doctor business and no charges. And it's still lingering. And I apparently, he said that guy's website's still up, and it's d r something, Morton, or something like that. I'll I'll have to look it up. But somebody looked it up and, and the what he's selling is imprinted colloidal silver, like a four ounce tincture for $50 or something.
And, no. You take, you know, he said ten drops or something like that or fifteen drops, but the directions were on the website. It was a little bit different than he remembered. But, you know, he says that's the antidote, just silver. I don't know how he imprints it with some frequency or something.
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How often did you still And how long do you have to do that for?
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Well, until it goes away. You do it, you know, as often as you can daily, couple two, three times a day, at least when you wake up and when before you go to bed and, soak it for twenty minutes and, in an ounce of silver and, cover you know, put your feet in warm water so it's they're covered. And then, after that, drain it out and and do it again with, peroxide. And then, do it again with just an ounce of plant derived minerals. Or you can just put plant derived minerals in a in a spray bottle. You can dilute them if you want. You don't have to, and you spray that right on your foot, on your on your toe that's affected. And, you can spray that when you're out working, have that bottle of minerals. You spray your face and and arms and neck and, they absorb right in. They'll cool you right down. Even the cool, you know, the coolness of it cools you off, but the minerals actually cool you down and and absorb and, lower your body temperature.
There's a lot of benefits to topical minerals. You know, we used
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to have, what was that? That's brand of that silver generator that you recommended again? We use the,
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silverlungs.com. It's a silver lungs generator. It was invented by, an engineer and, the silver rods he uses are about at least an eighth of an inch thick. There's real heavy, 10 inches long. And if if I wouldn't have bent our first ones, you know, they they have not diminished in size since 02/2010. And you get the kit, and the kit gives you everything you need, you know, to make a quart at a time. We have some gal amber gallon jugs, one for colloidal, one for ionic. And, we try to keep those full. We don't use as much silver Dow as we used to use, but when I first found it through Alex Jones and, doctor, Reba Reema Libo, viruses, but I don't believe in viruses anymore.
I don't believe they've ever isolated a virus, so it's all bacterial. And they don't, you know, they want us to be afraid of things that we can't see. And, while it says that, and she says, coloidal silver kills the Ebola virus, MRSA, you name it, it kills it. When you soak your feet in the credible results with silver. When
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you soak your feet in the silver, does it discolor the affected tissue? No.
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Okay. But it will kill that that I gave my next door neighbor, he was, like, 67 when we moved in here. And, I met him on his tractor. I was out working in the yard, and, he came over on his tractor. He couldn't hardly walk, you know, lungs, had a broken back when he when he was 18, and and he was just in the weeds, you know. And, eventually, he told me he had a he was going to a podiatrist for three years because of this, infection in his toe. It was fungus. And, I went in the house and got a a 16 ounce bottle. We used to put our silver in to give away, you know, with a pump sprayer, glass bottle.
And, I told him to, you know, spray this in your mouth couple times a day and spray it on your toe, a couple times a day. And, and he did it. And a week later, he called me up, and he said, doctor Dave. And I said, don't you ever call me that again. Who are you? No. Jim, my neighbor. Why did he call you that? Because I healed his foot with silver. I didn't heal it. The silver did. His his he'd been seeing a podiatrist for three years, and it went away, and it never came back. Never came back. He didn't soak it. He just sprayed it on there two, three times a day for a week every and he drank it every day, and it went away.
My neighbor across the street, he did the same thing. His went away. Almost everybody I've told this to have, you know, has had really good success.
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Is is that SilverLungs generator? Is that about $300?
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You know, I I it was. My buddy in Texas, you know, he kept getting sick and and I kept telling him, dude, get yourself a generator. Okay. I will. And he never did. And then, then he got, I mean, he was, he was on the ropes, man. And, he, and he always calls me when he's super sick. And I said, dude, you gotta get somebody to go to the store right now and get you a bottle of silver. And his neighbor come over. He called his neighbors. Neighbor came over. He or he went he went and brought him silver back. And in two days, he was it was totally gone when it was killing him. And, he finally went on the website, and it was like $699 or something. I'm like, dude, I freaking told you when it was probably $2.99, you know?
And, so I don't know how much it is right now, but if you go to silverlungs.com, you know, the longer we wait, the more it's gonna go up. So and this guy's a one man band. He he makes every machine himself. He does it all himself and he ships. Sometimes he has somebody working with him, but, most of the time it's really hard to get ahold of Mario Safaldi. You could see his phone number on his website. You can call him and leave him a message. Hell he may answer. I don't know. I haven't talked to him in a long time, but, give him my name and, and he'll he'll give me a couple of bucks for selling one. I've never used that. We are an affiliate now, but, I've probably had at least two dozen people or more by one of them things on my recommendation, and they all love it. And, and I've never been paid for any of them, because I my wife made me an affiliate, but I don't even know how to use it. Take your take your own.
[02:53:09] Unknown:
Dave. Very
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informative. Very informative. Thanks, Dave.
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He called. Hey, Dave. Did you say that I think you said it was an elderly lady, and she had she been jabbed with vaccination, and and it was the 80 years old. She was 80 years old,
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and her family kept trying to force her to get the jab for a couple years. And finally, she broke down, and she she said okay. And her son took her to a Walgreens or whatever the drugstore was out in California. And, they stuck that needle in her and she crumpled. And he was standing next to her. He caught her. The cement floor, she would have busted her head open and died right there. I know it. And, he carried her home, stuck her in bed. The next day, she called us and told us what happened, and she sounded like, you know what? And, she had a five gallon pail of of those minerals and a gallon jug of silver from, it's called utopiasilver.com.
They sell it by the gallon. She had that already, and, I told her what to do. And three days later, she called back, and she was up dancing. Thank
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you.
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You're welcome.
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What's the vaporizer kit?
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$39.89.
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I don't know. Well, there's a there's a, sonic nebulizer that comes in that kit that you inhale, you know, ionic silver. You like one dropper full, fits in this medicine cup, and you turn it on. There's a little needle and some distilled water that vibrates violently, and it makes the that dropper of, you know, that makes the silver dance and you turn it on, there's a fan, you inhale it, and you get about 24 deep inhales off of it. And it's supposed to infuse your respiratory system for up to seventy two hours. And it does. I know it does. It says vibrating
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vapor or or vibrating mesh vaporizer.
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Okay. May he may have changed it up since we got we bought ours in 02/2010, different now. And, you know, just like everybody else, they want to make things better. I don't know what that is. And I don't know anybody that has one of those. The base unit is 300. It's the same one on Amazon for 300, but this deluxe kit is $4.40,
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which has the vaporizer. But they're not showing it the way it looks. I'm on their site. Oh, here. Here's more info.
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Yeah. Okay. I I I didn't hear anything you just said.
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Yeah. It looks like the vaporizer is to pull it into your lungs.
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Uh-huh.
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It's a little unit. I don't know if it makes the silver. I probably not. You probably put it in there. Nope. And then you You
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plug it into a USB, in you know, when it's got a USB. Yeah. I couldn't hear that now, Dave. Plugged into the computer to charge it. And I don't know if it has a battery. I did get one of those later on when mine stopped working. Mine is different than that. And I I you know, my wife was working, and then we had a flood. And I don't even know where that thing is. I never even got to use it. I do need to replace that thing.
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Says the electrodes are seven and a half inches long, not 10. Okay.
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Well, I was guessing. Whatever how I recall a a quart beaker is, that's how long they are.
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Yeah. It's a flask beaker sort of a thing. Right?
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I don't know. It it's it flares at the bottom. It's a narrow neck, and then the the top is flared, and there's a a rubber stopper that goes in it. And there's two slits in it, and each rod fits into a slit, And the they pop out the top. You grab those with alligator clips. That those clips plug into a a plate that the beaker sits on. It's got distilled water that you measure with the TDS meter, to zero. And, that's about a half inch from the bottom. They're about a half inch or an inch apart. And, and then that those clips plug into the wall one ten. And you cook it on high for, of three it's about three and a half hours to make a quart on high.
And, the, there's a little magnet capsule that goes in the bottom of the beaker, and then the plate that it sits on has a magnet in it, and it spins that beaker every thirty seconds to stir the mixture. Uh-huh. And it's got a you know, it comes with a, laser pointer so you can, you know, flash in there and see the flakes of silver ions in the water. It's got a cleaning kit. It's got a copper scrubber you polish the rods with because they turn black. But I'm telling you, we've been cooking this stuff for since fifteen years now, and the rods are they they have not diminished in size since we got it.
And we make gallons of that stuff.
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Well, you think they would diminish if it's going into the solution. It's just silver ions.
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Okay. And they are silver. You know, they flash when you shine that that light in in there, that, laser pointer, they flash. And, so we have a little bit different, we have this, reducing, powder in a in, like, a little canister. And it's, it's, I can't remember what it's called, but he has a different process now, and it may even be different today. When my friends bought him, he had a a some liquid that you kept in the fridge or freezer, and you put drops in, and mine is powder. And my wife, we got some of that liquid at one point, and she didn't like like it. She liked the powder better.
That's true. But everybody who didn't have the powder, they they like this the the drops, you know. It's just, the process you're used to. It's got a thick manual that tells you exactly how to use it. It's easy to use, and, you know, you can make a couple gallons in a weekend.
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Okay. So I'll try everything else on my feet. I may as well try this.
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Yeah. Right? Somebody else trying to say something?
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Hey, Dave. Were you just saying y'all make gallons and gallons of Colorado silver or something else? Mineral We make ionic silver.
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See, ours starts as ionic, and it's clear, and ours doesn't turn amber until we put these this pinch of this powder in it, and we then we gotta, simmer it on the stove. You don't have to do that with the new ones now. The liquid prevents that, but what hap when it all is ionic for us first and then colloidal, this, poly what is it called? It's a it's a it's, anyway, it we we after we make a batch of silver, when it finishes, we put this pinch, we take the rods out, and then we put a pinch of this powder in it, and then we turn the machine back on for five minutes and stir, you know, the magnet stirs it all in. And then we put it on the stove on simmer, and it takes about twenty minutes to, you know, to simmer. And what happens is the the powder adheres to the the silver ions, and it reduces the parts per million, and it the this poly, poly something. Anyway, it it it protects the ions from burning up in the stomach acid to get down into the small and large intestines.
And that's what the the colloidal silver does. Everything else we use is ionic for the lungs, the eyes, the ears, and the nose, and the skin. We use the ionic. You don't have to, but, you know, and I don't know what if you buy colloidal silver from the store, I don't know what the process is they're using to make it. But
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Okay. Does the does the does the silver lungs machine make the colloidal silver as good as that, apparatus that you are using?
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Yes. Yeah. That's what that's what we we have, a silver lungs generator. Okay. But ours is a you know, I don't know what generation ours is. We bought ours in 2010. See that? It's Joan's from the, after call.
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So so, Dave, what what's this pinch you're putting in there to change it? Yeah. Yeah. It's a polysaccharide.
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Okay.
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It's a polysaccharide. See, when we ordered ours, he he either called us or he put a note in it, and he said he he just came up with this process after he shipped ours, and he said it may or may not come with it. And if it doesn't, he would be sending this canister, you know, as soon as he got it in stock. And I can't remember because it was so long ago. And it it may have actually came with it. And,
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and I I'm assuming that if you're drinking the silver for Uh-huh. Say, candida, you would wanna do it this way. Right? With the pinch in.
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Well, the the process now, it's a drop of silver. You already opened the garage door? Yeah. Okay. Is that what Pam wanted me to do, open the garage for you? Yes, please. She's already opened it for you. I gotta remove this car door. We got a guy here working on some putting in a new door for us. Anyway, yeah. The liquid, you know, don't be afraid of the liquid. It comes with the kit. This guy's an engineer, and I I'm pretty sure everybody that I have had, you know, recommended one of these two, and it's at least two dozen. And these are really dear friends that have ordered them all across the country. One one of them is right across the street though.
And, they they said, like us, it is one of the best investments we've ever made. It'll be a family heirloom you'll pass down from generation to generation. And you'll make, you know, an endless amount of colloidal and ionic silver. You'll never be sick again if you do it the way we do it. Use it. Make it and use it. So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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So David, this is Brenda. How much do y'all still take a day? Y'all still take the silver every day? Or
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My wife uses more than I do. When she goes out, I recommend to people if you're going out, take a you know, we just spray it in our mouth. We got our own, you know, sprayers, and I think we got them from Utopia silver. The, sick I guess they're eight ounce. They're eight ounce glass bottles, and then we got a pump sprayer for a bunch of them. We bought a a dozen or two of them, years ago when we first started making them. We made them made them up and gave them away as Christmas gifts, you know, to our family and friends. Sure. And, so I figured 12 sprays was like a teaspoon.
And I would say spray your mouth 12 times before you leave the house and, you know, swish it around, hold it under your tongue, you know, keep it in there as long as you can and then swallow it. And if you have any any issues on your skin or your eyes or ears or whatever, just spray it on, rub it in. And then when you come home, you spray it again. I don't know if that that might be overkill, but that's what we do. My wife keeps it in the car. You know, we spray our hand if we're you know, we we even we clean apples with it. We just spray the apple and wash it with our hands and and, you know, and it'll kill anything on an apple, you know?
And then I had I had this this mole that was in like the cup of my leg between my ankle and my Achilles, you know. And for my whole life, you know, and I used to scratch it, it would get itchy. And, when I first got silver, not the silver lungs, it was we were buying, sovereign silver, I think it was called through Alex Jones. Just an advertiser, you know. He didn't get he was getting paid for the guy's commercials. But anyway, that's what we first tried. And, I rubbed that thing every night, you know, just with a I'd spray one spray in my hand, stick my finger in it, and rub it on that mole.
Mhmm. And within two weeks, that mole fell off, and it that was in, you know, probably 2006 when I did that, and it's still you know, it never came back.
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That's good. Skin tags,
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pink eye, the flu Mhmm. Ear infections, you know, burns, cuts, scrapes, abrasions. So stomach ache, headaches, fevers.
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Dave, does the manual sort of cover all of these things? Like, when you said soaking your feet, obviously, you need more than an ounce to soak your feet. So you're putting an ounce in a third of water.
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Water. Put an ounce in some distilled water. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm getting at here. Yeah. That's not in the manual. I just figured that's a lot of the stuff I just figured out on my own. I just started doing stuff, and it worked. So how much water do you use?
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Nouns of soap. Well,
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just in a if you got a foot soak thing, you know, a tub, you can stick your feet in, just, you know, to to the ankles or whatever, cover the foot, and however much water that is, and you put an ounce of silver in it. And you soak for, you know, till the water cools off, you know, till it's not comfortable anymore. And if you do that when you wake up, and then you come in at lunch and do it again, and then that before you go to bed, do it again. The more you do it, the faster you're gonna get rid of it. And then take an ounce of silver by mouth. You know, this, that every time you soak your feet, take an ounce of silver. So you're getting it from both ends.
Okay. But that fungus is coming not from outside your toe. It's coming from inside. That's why we we get it from both ways.
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Yeah. And it I've tried everything. It's been persistent. I keep it at bay, but I never really get rid of it. So it's been there for forty five, fifty years.
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Okay. So how much silver do you drink? You said none. No. Right?
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Well, I went for a little while, but I didn't I wasn't, you know, I wasn't doing something as comprehensive as you're talking about. That's all I'm saying. So doctor Wallach,
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when I first heard doc talk about silver, he said since the year February, he's been taking a dropper, a two two droppers. Did he he puts a dropper on each side of his mouth. Alright? When he wakes up, before breakfast, before lunch, before dinner, and at bedtime, he's been taking a dropper of two droppers of silver that often every day since the year February. Now when I when I first heard, about silver on Alex Jones, he had the CEO of Sovereign Silver on, and that dude said, this is when I finally bought it. That dude said they took 30 AIDS patients. They gave them each one ounce of silver five times a day, and in thirty days, none of them had AIDS anymore.
And I heard Rima Liebo say that silver kills the AIDS virus. You know, I heard her say that, and everything else she said, Ebola, MRSA, you know, just the stuff. I'm like, wow. But I I wasn't sold until the CEO actually told us that he this is what he did, and this was the result. I said, we're I just called up and ordered it. And then Samuel. You know, then then I ordered from, you know, Utopia Silver used to advertise on Alex Jones, and Al Adask was the guy. That that statement he came up with, you know, men and other animals or whatever. He used that defense. He was representing Utopia silver, and he won that that supreme court case, in Texas. They're in the Hill Country in Utopia, Texas.
And, well, when I went on their site, I found that you could buy a gallon of silver from them. And and it was very reasonable, even shipped all the way to Michigan. And we bought a gallon, and we used it. And there I put it in the food. I put it in my beer. I put it everywhere. I put it in the dog's bowl. You know, I put it in all the food I cooked. We used the heck out of it. And then we bought a second one, then I started hearing, Mario Sifaldi was a was one of the expert, teachers on Vince Finelli's, USA prepares.
And he was talking about Silver Lungs generator, and I'm like, you know what? After we use that second gallon, well, before when we were ready to order a third gallon, I said, bam. By the time we buy our third gallon, we all have paid for a silver lungs generator. She said order it. Well Mhmm. I ordered it, and, it again, I say it's the best one of the best investments we've ever made.
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Yes, Daniel. Samuel.
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Yeah.
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Well, you take, go out and get a clean source of, aloe gel. Yeah. Put some put some colloidal silver in it. Right? Mix it up. Yep. And then, apply it to your feet before bed. Put a plastic bag over your feet, each one, and tape it up to the ankle.
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Yep. Maybe you just But when I forgot about that because they sell they sell silver lotion, and it's made with aloe. It's aloe and silver.
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So Samuel. Andy, you're you're saying you're mixing the aloe gel with the silver, and then you're putting that on the feet.
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Yep. Because that's the longest that that allows the silver the the little bit of silver you put in it, it allows that silver to stay moist all night. The moisture is what it allows it to continue working. That's why you tap Right. Tape off your ankles. You don't lose
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And you could put it you could actually wear that during the day in your boots.
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Hey, Samuel? Yep. Yep. Alright. And I've I've got the same I've got the same machine Dave does. I've had it for probably ten years, and I like my uncle to gel too. So
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Hey, Samuel. Sorry to sorry to interrupt here. A quick message to you. I just got a call from, Protectotherm, and they do have a shop now button on top of their website. You get a sample of their Oh, color. Powder, yep, for $20.29 dollars for eight ounces. Something like that.
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Okay? Okay. That's good to know. I'll let you know. Yep.
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High yield. Sorry to interrupt.
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What is he selling? What does he got? Free sample of what? No. It's the powder
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Go ahead. It's the pop it's the powder you put in paint that makes it fire retardant
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Oh. Roof.
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So you can paint your house with it to protect it from catching on fire, so so to speak. Oh, wow. I was listening to a guy the other day that said, especially in California, we have unlimited amounts of different chaparral, and the only way they reproduce is through fire. He said our biggest fire here was a few years ago, I think 02/2021, burnt 4,000,000 acres in California. According to this guy, the Indians used to burn 10,000,000 a year, and they did it to to increase the habitat because the only way those chaparral germinated was by fire, and then that attracted the animals that fed off the chaparrales and stuff like elk and deer, etcetera.
So they were they were fine tuning the the environment that they want to live in through fire.
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What's chaparral?
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Well, it's just a low, you know, ground cover. There's according to this guy, like, hundreds of different species in California, especially in Southern California. But, he said that's how they kept the environment going all the time for them. And, of course, we wanted to wipe them out. So out of our greed, we stopped them from burning.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And, you know, pine cones pine cones are full of seeds, and the only way they'll regrow is to be burned open.
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Yeah. There's a lot of trees that need that as well to germinate. They need fire every once in a while. Yep. Then he said the big mistake that Whitey made, it was we would clear cut, and then we would plant one variety.
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Another big mistake. Right? So Right. Was it a mistake, or was it by design?
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I just follow the money, I guess. You know? Yeah. Right.
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Did anybody hear, Blackbird on, Gaddy last week when he talked about Mad Magazine and Alfred e Newman?
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No.
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That that the Jews created Mad Magazine as a parody against, for the, the the cold war, and, Alfred e Newman is the Jew on the cover. And what? Me, worry, and mad stands for mutually assured destruction. And they have the spy versus spy cartoons in there and all kinds of oh my god. Unbelievable.
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Yeah. We got it from all angles at at in our generation, Neil. Boris Badenov and Natasha Futhal, you know, demonizing the Russians
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from Spotsylvania.
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That's right.
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Oh, man. Too funny.
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Boris and Natasha were the best ones on the show.
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Rocky Rocky and Bullwinkle show.
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Right.
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Or even happy days, I was, I was, like, remember the fawns and now I used to hit the jukebox. Well, come to I said, when is the first example hit the jukebox? I guess it was either season two or episode two, and it was an episode where he meets a stripper and wants to marry her, but then she she wants to, stay a stripper. So it's like it's total, like, inversion, you know, subversion, diversion of the Jew. And I guess the Fonz was Jew too. Not only the Inversion. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think ninety
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ninety probably more than 90% of all the actors in Hollywood are Jews.
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Yeah. That that piece on on, are are the Jews to promise people, he he he he's in a segment there where he shows all the Hollywood people with the little red string around the wrist for the Kabbalah.
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Yeah.
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Hey. Hey, Samuel Samuel. I just got a callback from Protect the Therm, and he said there's a problem right now. There's a glitch in the shipping. So I would say call him and see if the glitch is gone before you do order it online. I yield.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Some people claim in some of these fires that nails are melted out of wood fences. So what are we really dealing with this stuff like that is true? And I know Matt from Sonoma, the fire guy. He he could probably tell me whether that's true or not because he lived through it, but that's just too bizarre to all comprehend.
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Yeah. The fence post didn't burn, but the nails melted inside of them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I heard that.
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When the when they had the Paradise Fire, I almost drove up there. I wish I would have to see what it was really like.
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Did you want your rear end fried up there?
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What?
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What was that? You were sort of muffled.
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I said, did you want your rear end fried up there?
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Well, when I would have gone, there wouldn't have been anything there. According to what I saw. The foundations weren't even there. The concrete was turned to dust, and the rebar in the concrete was gone.
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That's the devil that did that.
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Yeah. And the old normal fire I've seen in the past, you know, the usually the the old stone chimney and foundation are there. The wood may not be, but how do you get rid of that stuff? You know?
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You know, my, the our electric company here out of Detroit, Detroit Edison, they call it DTE, Detroit Thomas Edison. The CEO was chased out with that paperwork from, oh, one of them smart meter groups that were chasing them guys out, making them sign an f sign a piece of paper that said they would be responsible if if, they don't take your smart meter off and and your house burns down or anybody gets sick or dies. That guy quit. The CEO of DTE quit, and he went to PG and E. And I heard that he actually got sentenced, to he they pleaded it down to manslaughter, but that Paradise Fire, was traced back to the smart meters. And, and they said it was a fourth amendment violation because they were they were quartering centuries in the people's homes with the smart meter and the appliances with the, you know, the the chips in them that talk to the smart meters.
And I believe that was, the the ruling came out of the the
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still here?
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You cut out for a while if you were talking. I think he's talking to his wife, Pam.
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You know, Preston been listening to her instead of talking to us.
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Paul Preston used to claim that, a lot of a lot of these big fires, the few houses that would stand, often didn't have the meter. So maybe they excite the electrical in the walls or something like that, all the metals. I don't know.
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Well, they're using laser out of from out of space hitting, places too on the surface causing fires.
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Supposedly, there was one guy in the Paradise Fire that stayed On his roof with his garden hose and kept things soaked and saved his house so to find that hard to believe but,
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you know
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Because if the meter is putting turning the house on fire, it wouldn't have mattered. Right? So I don't know. There's just a lot of things to who knows?
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Hey, everybody. Carl in Utah. Can I change the subject for just a minute?
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Sure. Go ahead.
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What, so I'm going through this, question in my head of what is commerce? And if if I'm going out and spraying people's yards, and I'm try I I would consider myself traveling to their home, but I'm not carrying, I'm not carrying freight. You know? I'm not a freight for hire or anything else. Would that be considered still in the traveling versus in commerce versus driving?
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How many miles do you travel a day?
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Oh, probably depends on a day. Fifty, sixty.
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From some of what I've read, what happens is the fourteenth amendment essentially puts you in a condition where all these contracts, like, by operational law, etcetera, happen, and you're stuck not in a bilateral contract, but in a unilateral contract, including the government. When you get yourself out of those, you should be able to go back to the constitution where you can have agreement between two people, you know, instead, and you could go in and out of commerce prior to the fourteenth amendment. You could be protected by the constitution or contract outside of it. That's my understanding of it.
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Can I make a statement relative to the deal? I don't know if it's helpful. Yeah. Go for it. They cannot impose an artificial creature on another sovereign. You are a sovereign entity. You are not a creation of the state. You are flesh and blood. The people would never register. The event was registered, so they gave you an agency with a matching estate in the union. That's what they gave you. That is the result of the hospitality because they were an enemy they were the enemy cabadins. Right? You are not the name. This is part of the whole illusion they gave us. You were given an agency and an estate.
You weren't given a name. Your name is in the creator's book and won't we won't know it until we meet them. If you meddle in the affairs of an infant without authority, you will be held accountable. The infant is the agency, and it's a state. It's it's interest. You're not the name you are operating through it like a transmitting utility. When you apply for a privilege like a driver's license, you agree by consent to have service of process for that name at that address, which cuts out the secretary of state from having to accept service of process for you as a foreigner. So turn it over to the US Treasury to discharge that debt. Maxim of law. It's better to suffer any indignity than to consent.
Yield.
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So going back to your cleaning, are you registered with the state?
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Your birth certificate, they're presuming you are because of your birth certificate. That because that that is what the the DL is is derived from and this SN number, which is basically a banking, num tracking number.
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So how do we how do we separate the birth certificate
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from that birth certificate? I mean, I I I've gone and got my certified, but Yeah. I would say you want secretary of state to become the the service of process so that your address doesn't become your name. You know, these psychos that are trained by Mossad pull you over in the side of the road and you don't have a piece of plastic. They they tase you. Right? So, I would say what they're saying with this is what I'm doing, which is and I haven't had, I've not had a license since 02/2006, maybe, something like that. But I would, what I'm doing with mine is getting everything, you know, US secretary of state authenticated because I've already had them, authenticated the birth certificate and the marriage certificate at the state level. Now I'm gonna send that all to SOS, have that authenticated, then turn it into the county with my depositional affidavit, which says, you know, I've seen no evidence this name is me.
Then I get that stamped and I can send it to whoever, you know, just like we send out the notices of nationality to whoever. Right? We get that list or whatever. So it's kind of another level of of depth of separating the the, birth certificate, creation, which is what I just read versus the living flesh per you know, man. I don't know if that if that is enough, but that's gonna be my service of process to them.
[03:30:51] Unknown:
K. I probably will have to retalk about this with you and maybe get a little help with that. I'm not really sure. You you went a little deeper than what I know of. I haven't I haven't heard about doing the certification on your your marriage license or anything else. But then again, you know, I've been here to this. So
[03:31:13] Unknown:
Have you read the Bros. Declaration of Independence?
[03:31:17] Unknown:
It kinda is. You know? I mean, I think, but but the document is still out there. Whatever documents the state has created is still out there. We have an interest in those. It's not necessarily majority interest, but they created it as a result of the live events, you know, that god created us just like the marriage licenses or this, I should say, the marriage certificate. They're out there doing something with it, but we must have an interest in that. But we can then, you know, modify that interest by notifying them. Say, hey. We do you guys take the profits on this? If you guys are hypothecated, whatever they're doing with it, if they're making liens against it, whoever who who cares? But they can have those profits, but also all the liabilities, which would be a ticket on the side of the road, which would be a property tax, which would be whatever comes in the quote, unquote, persecuted name or married, you know, married name. And that's what I'm trying to do with the mortgage company now. The first time I sent it to the mortgage company, they sent back a letter to my wife because she's the only one on the promissory note. They sent her and say, oh, we need third party authorization. Somebody's trying to, you know, activate your account or pay for something or something like that. And now I sent them the marriage certificate that shows that I do have an interest in this promissory note that my wife signed because in the end of the day, they come take the house because the promissory note is unpaid.
I'm living here. I'm putting my children's birth certificates with the with The United States. So now that I'm I'm basically watching out for The United States. It's bigger than George. It's bigger than my house. It's bigger than my wife. It's our whole it's the whole country. It's The United States. And not the whole country, but their their whole corporation. So now you're coming to the aid of that, trust. So you're being like a trust protector. So it's it's it's much bigger. It's kinda like I I liken it to our nationality. We're like, we need more people. We need more people where we have the whole United States there, which we can defend as protector of that trust by going to peace with it, by this kind of process.
[03:33:08] Unknown:
Like I said, have you read the declaration of independence that, Broth wrote?
[03:33:14] Unknown:
Yes. Yep.
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I mean, do yeah. You might might wanna do that because I think that is a concise statement wrapping into it clearly what George is saying in a lot of ways. I can read it real quick. It's a short paragraph. He and Ambrose says you need to publish this in your paper of record in your local community according to the, legal statement, laws of your state. So you might have to run it for a day, three days, who knows how long. But anyways, this is it. He titled it the declaration of independence. He says, I, John or Jane Doe, in the name of the almighty creator, by my declaration of independence, solemnly publish and declare my right to expatriate absolute, my res entrust to the foreign jurisdiction known as the Municipal Corporation of the District of Columbia, a democracy, and return to the Republic.
Any and all any and all past and present political ties implied by operation of law or otherwise entrust with the democracy is hereby dissolved. I, John or Jane Doe, have full power to contract, establish commerce as guaranteed by the full 10 amendments to the Bill of Rights, to the Constitution of the lower case United States Of America, a republic. That's it. It's notarized, and you're done, according to him. Now to stay out of commerce, what he wants you to do is have a non interest, bank account. And if you do any, billing over state lines to use a postal money order. And that was pretty much his remedy back when he wrote this.
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Not the Libros Constitution.
[03:35:29] Unknown:
Well, if you you go through his his his The USA, the republic, the house that nobody lives in, that's out of there. It's, like, 60 pages. And he gets into depth about the fourteenth amendment, what was done, how it was done. And if he just basically, when you were born, your will was put into probate, and this breaks that. The letter would include that birth certificate and everything else. All of these, things done by operational law, which is a contract that the parties don't even need to be aware of, and it's automatic. That's pretty much what the fourteenth amendment does by being born.
Yeah. And and residing and all of the rest of it. Right? So
[03:36:31] Unknown:
Hey, George. On your on your driver's license that you don't have anymore, did you rescind that or how did you go about that? I tried I turned mine in the other day. It's been now well, when we had that conversation a while back about it, but they wouldn't like, oh, no. It's still good. You could don't if you give it, I mean, you could always get it right back and, you know, we don't really destroy these. And I'm like, well, I don't want it. And then I figured out that you have to use the word rescind and in your language with them.
But I haven't gone back since because honestly, I don't have a driver's license. So I really haven't bothered with it, but I probably should. My concern is without the driver's license, getting insurance on the vehicle on the automobile,
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and
[03:37:39] Unknown:
when does that become an issue if I've got truck payments that I'm making to the bank, you know, and I don't have a driver's license? Can that vehicle be insured, besides doing, you know, a separate bond by my you know, that I have right, you know, I'm just I got a lot of you know, it's the we're all been indoctrinated so much. It's just hard to wrap my head around this hole.
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Yeah. Insurance is an interesting animal. We have one that's in my my wife, you know, believe that she is the name, and so she wants to continue. She's a naturalized citizen, actually. And she wants to keep, the things. So I do I but I travel in it, and I consider a consumer product. But, but it's got plates and everything. Then I've got another vehicle that has Montana. It's in a trust in Montana. Over eleven years, it's in a vision being interesting. I told the cop one time, hey, it's in a trust. He goes, oh, it's in a trust like that. So it was interesting. They they haven't bothered me, you know, haven't really done anything, you know, untoward with it. But but, but you don't have to have insurance on that. In Idaho, you have to have insurance.
So on the other vehicle, we have, some insurance. But I think if I anything happened, I would just send the, you know, send the things back to them, just pay the order of the treasury because what I'm doing with, you know, with the process that I'm doing, I'm trying to separate that commercial side. And, really, I think it's all insured by the treasury. I think it's, you know, the whole government's just a protection racket, you know, so and which should be, like, hey. Hey. Do you want us not to burn down your house? Pay, you know, pay pay us this tax. No. No. It it is. It's definitely good. But, anyway, that might be oversimplified, but, I think you can still carry all those things. And because you're operating you're basically that name is, is like a indemnification, you know.
That's what that's what I'm learning now. It's like, okay. I've been I go, I'm not the birth certificate. You know, my initial nationality process, I returned the birth certificate. I returned the Social Security number, all that kind of stuff. But really, it's not ours to return. We can go to peace with it. It's an offering that they did through the labor code and and the civil war and all that stuff. 8063 and all the way to the Social Security Act in 1933. They had this plan. You know, they had the whole they had it all sketched out. You know? And Colonel House, whatever, that's true. Alright. I think evidence.
You know?
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I I think the way that I could see handling it for myself would be telling them that I need the driver's license out of necessity in order to function in the society of they've created, but as a state citizen, I'm not waiving my rights to anything that I have there.
[03:40:50] Unknown:
Well said.
[03:40:54] Unknown:
I mean, basically, what they've done is they've taken something in common law that used to be, you know, stealing your car, for instance, stealing your horse was a hanging, hanging offense and now they're the the people stealing your car if you don't have, you know, insurance.
[03:41:16] Unknown:
Yep. And and, you know, that's the it's like you said, that's the limited liability scheme. You know, that's the FRN scheme. It's all limited liability. It's not strict liability like being responsible for
[03:41:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Covering yourself and all the different problems that that not, you know, dropping the driver's license, I think is quite complicated and has a lot of far reaching effects. I just don't have the time for all of that, but I think out of necessity, you could make that claim and not be waiving your rights, and ask the AG to respond to that if he's in disagreement. And if he's silent, then, you know, and send that maybe, you know, registered mail so you have chain of custody. And I think you have something you could stand on lawfully.
[03:42:13] Unknown:
Science deems consent.
[03:42:19] Unknown:
Yeah. We should ask him for a timed response and something like that. You know, you've got sixty days to disagree with me, let's say, or I'll or you'll be in agreement with me. So something like that. You know, I know there's a better way to word it, but I mean, the government is using the doctrine of necessity to do a lot of things, and I think we should that's one of those things we can turn on them and do the same in light. Because obviously That's
[03:42:55] Unknown:
what Terry Lee kinda I mean, if you wanted to do it, isn't that what Terry Lee, he kinda sent them back and said sent the license back and said, you know, give me a letter saying that, that you can't do this in this name if you wanted to, if you wanted to do the name thing,
[03:43:08] Unknown:
you know, use your Christian name because that's another strategy. Well, yeah. He was sort of doing a refusal for cause because he said that one of the stipulations he needed on his license was it to be a Christian name and they, of course, when they couldn't do that he said, Well then I'm voluntarily giving it up to you, but I just want a certified document from you that says I'm volunteering it for reasons, and those were his causes not not to have one so that if he ever gets in the duel with the judge, he can say it wasn't that I didn't want to have a driver's license is as, like, I asked for there to be a Christian name on the document and they couldn't do that. That's why I had to refuse it, not because I didn't want Refusal for cause in the patriot groups in the nineties used to be a big deal.
Everybody was talking about it, and I think it still has a lot of validity especially as state citizens, which is something This is Bruce. They didn't know about.
[03:44:28] Unknown:
Go ahead. This is Bruce. I'll give you an example of what a national is and my ancestors were people that wrote the document to succeed from the nation in '18, '59, and they called the community together. Back then, that was 1860 '59, called the community together to vote on what they had come up with. They voted yes, presented to the state representatives. So the person that was represented at our county went down with the document and presented it to the legislative branches, and they both accepted it. And they wrote what they wanted, as a where the constitution is what they wrote again, their own constitution.
Now if one of our representatives didn't do what the people told him to do, and they could be in Washington, DC or or wherever they were going to represent the state, he didn't do what they wanted to the who he's representing, the town or county or whatever, they can call him back off the off the post. Bring him back and and deep you know, either arrest him or tell or take away his authority to represent anybody in the state. So that's the power we have. We got the same power back in 1859 to do what they they did. That's what a state citizen is.
[03:46:16] Unknown:
And you bring up a good point because the trust, the the people that are the trust
[03:47:41] Unknown:
Alright.
[03:47:42] Unknown:
But I think you. Wow. Who is that? But I think we, you know, I think we can still, write to our representatives, even though we're not part of you know, we're disenfranchised because technically it says you must be a US citizen, but the republic is still there. So the representative and both your congress you know, your state congressman, as well as your, state, rep and then, Congress, rep and, and senator should get a notification that, you know, something, it some, you know, somebody's doing something untoward to you and see if they can see if they can make it go away. Because they're responsible for the United States trust, and we're we're acting to re to, to protect The United States. And that that is exactly what happened when those representatives got recalled. Right? So they are still the trustees and must act in The United States. There's pretty much
[03:48:38] Unknown:
a renegade government because even even three northern states after they approve the fourteenth amendment tried to rescind, and the federal government wouldn't accept it.
[03:48:55] Unknown:
Correct. And we can be, so instead of trading with the enemy, we can actually be, you know, protected by international law, law of nations. Because you're exactly right. It is, you know, we're foreigners. That's what we are. We're foreigners, and we deserve the protection. My wife, when she was an immigrant here before she naturalized, she used to run through stop signs, cup, pull over, and just let her go. They had no jurisdiction.
[03:49:32] Unknown:
They had no jurisdiction over your wife because he wasn't a citizen yet?
[03:49:39] Unknown:
Correct. She because it yeah. She basically, they had no jurisdiction. It's it's it's just a plain truth about what the name is, you know, what the name is on the rules. Now once you get naturalized or once you have a birth certificate, you got your name out there. With or without a d r DL. And they always ask you for address and name. You ever noticed that even if you didn't have your DL with you?
[03:50:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Thanks.
[03:50:11] Unknown:
I don't I personally don't like relying on international law because we don't have any control over that at all. I would prefer that we stick with our our country's citizenship, our state,
[03:50:26] Unknown:
and demand our rights to be protected that way. Right. I'm not I'm not asking for international law, but I'm saying The Hague The Hague and also Libra Code and the law of nations would protect us as just this If you're a southerner still, quote, unquote, in rebellion, you know, you'd be protected as well if you didn't join that fourteenth amendment franchise after they after they kicked out the state congresses.
[03:50:51] Unknown:
I've I've I've read in many places that, the we created The United States created the UN and and relies on international laws so that it can big basically supplant the constitution. They need it to be there.
[03:51:16] Unknown:
Right. And the constitution was put there so that there could be commerce because we had the articles of confederation already, but we did they didn't do it was not a commercial, solution. Internet international trade and all that. You know? That's that's that was the end goal was to make The United States and the Roman Empire my humble opinion based on, you know, abs front of face shields evidence, including the 800 bases around the world.
[03:51:40] Unknown:
Well, commerce was a problem between states as well as international, and that's they brought some of that in. But, of course, again, if you read Brost, that was protected by Swift versus Tyson, but the fourteenth Amendment destroyed that as well. And by the time you get to Erie Railroad, this guy looking for protection was a fourteenth Amendment citizen. So they said, Nah, it's over. No more protection in commerce. So we we lost it over time every you know? That's that's sort of the issue I have with the approach on people who think this thing was evil from the get go. Well it definitely had some weaknesses in it that could have been better done in hindsight, like too much power in the presidency, they were basically looking for a king, so that was a big mistake, and that's what Lincoln took advantage of.
You know, somebody was gonna take advantage of that power at some point and become a dictator, and, you know, it's pretty much what we've had since Lincoln. But prior to that, you know, we were sort of doing okay. But as usual, we fought a war, and everybody loses rights every time they fight a war. Yes. And that that was a reset. We should be the biggest sea snakes in the world if we really wanted to protect their freedoms. Right?
[03:53:25] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:53:27] Unknown:
Every war is a restatement of trust, I think is what what the court is of a trust, you know. So it's it's also a reset of the economics and everything else, and that's what's coming with our next World War three. There's there'll be the new Bretton Woods. And a lot of rich men have written, they want it to get done and over with so that they can move on. They're not worried about it. They're going to be part of the reset and benefit from it.
[03:55:14] Unknown:
I'll see you kids later. Alright?
[03:55:21] Unknown:
Goodbye.
[03:55:25] Unknown:
Bye bye.
[03:55:34] Unknown:
I don't think we're gonna come out on top on this one either. As far as fighting wars, we we don't have the weapons anymore, and we don't have the tactics. We're sort of screwed. Russia is working towards building 2,000 drones a day because there's turned it to such a valuable tool, and they're testing tactics on the battlefield. It used to be a tank wouldn't survive out there if there was one drone. The Russians has currently built a tank that they put out there. It looks like a test. 60 drones hit it. None of the drones destroyed it, and the tank was disabled because it, drove over a landmine.
But the drones didn't take it out, which has become the norm. And we're we're building 3 to 11,000,000, $12,000,000 missiles to shoot down one thing. Well, if you're making 2,000 things a day, you're gonna be broke fast. We just don't have the capacity as we used to. I mean, World War two, we were building, you know, 350 b seventeens a month. Now it takes us, I think, two years to build an f 35, which is usually down for maintenance all the time or not working for some reason? I mean, we've really and at a cost of, like, a $100,000,000, how how do we expect to fight a force any force with technology and prevail?
It's just going to be impossible.
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And we would too, and we'll take another shot at it today. Special day today. Roger Sales, of course, your host, Radio Ranch, name of our little get together. And, today is July 16. Now that is a very important day, at least to me, and it probably should be to you. I'll explain it in a minute. But first, it's like but first, we gotta have Paul come out and, identify the culprits that help us extend our reach and give them proper credit for their efforts. Would you please, Paul?
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Yeah. I I think I'm getting less and less important as days go by seeing as WDRN hasn't shown up in a while. Allen, please come back and give Paul something to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. WDRN does bring us, platforms like WVOU one zero six point nine FM Chicago, homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, go live TV, and stream life.tube. They haven't joined us in a little while, because, Alan's been off doing other things. But the mainstays, we actually have what looks like a new mainstay is radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy, Paul, across the drink. And we also have, eurofolkradio.com.
That is our anchor platform. That's where this iteration of the Radio Ranch all started, and that is thanks to pastor Eli James. And we have Global Voice Radio Network, which mirrors the stream, handles, streaming the after shows, and also manages, archives the, AI transcripts and show descriptions and things like that. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com, where you'll also find links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Got room for about a thousand of you, so come on down. You know, one of these days, we're actually gonna have enough people coming in that I will actually have to take one of the other three conference call platforms and actually link them to the show. Wouldn't that just be delightfully chaotic to have a couple of thousand people on a phone?
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Don't know when that's coming, but I really do honestly, in my heart, think it will be here one day, maybe sooner than we think.
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Mhmm.
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And I I've got a I really have to both Pauls, of course, because Paul does our Paul here does stuff that is just necessary, and very few people can do it. So thank you, Sarah Westall, and whatever caused you to look at that third segment that night. But, oh, but Paul English is the guy that, well, he's he has really, really given me the platform that I dreamed of, prayed for, needed. K? And that's this one where we've got no commercial interruptions and can get in to deep discussions on this very complex, sometimes complicated stuff. And you just it's you can do it with spots, but, boy, it is difficult.
Much more difficult like climbing the hills deepened. So, anyway, that's where we are. And, Mark's here with us this morning, which is fabulous. And, of course, Paul and you, I thought I heard Sherry, there before we got started. We hadn't heard from her in I don't even know how long. But before we get started, let me tell you why this day is so special. It's because it's my Patriot birthday. 33 ago this evening, I was at a, I think it was a consumer byline up up meeting. If I remember deeply enough, consumer byline was a, if you're into network marketing, it was the very first binary plan that had ever come out. It was, developed by this really smart guy who now sits in federal prison with some notoriety named Keith Ranieri. Does that name ring a bell with you, Paul? Or or Mark? No. Keith Ranieri?
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No. Nope. No.
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Well, it was this thing that a couple of well, his claim was claimed to his claim to fame, I guess, recently anyway, was hooking up with a gal from the Bronfman family and starting a sex cult where he would brand girls with his initials. Remember this from a few years ago? Oh, gosh. Oh, yeah. You remember Keith Ranieri is his name. I've met him before. I got a picture with him somewhere.
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Nexium.
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Nexium. Thank you very much. Nexium was the name of the company, and Keith Ranieri. This guy's pretty amazing guy. He was, I think at at 22 or or or something. He had four PhDs from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, which is rated higher academically than MIT. It's up there by you somewhere, Paul. Rensselaeri, have you ever heard of it?
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Rensselaeri. Yeah. It's up here in New York somewhere.
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Yeah. It's very, very, high IQ thing. He had he had four PhDs, physics, math, whatever. He had four PhDs by the time he was, like, 22 years old. And, he came up with this binary plan for, for multilevel. A lot of people have used since. It's quite powerful, actually. And his thinking was with all the other ones, you need to get three. And with this one, we'll only need to get two. You know? And it worked like a snap. It got shut down by some attorney generals. He had to it was a buying club, basically, the way he structured it. But, anyway, I believe it was at one of those meetings. And and, Mark, I told you about these guys the other night.
There was three brothers. We knew each other. They're called the Trent brothers. And, and one of them, the youngest one came up to me in that meeting and said, income tax is illegal. I went, okay. You know, you're kind of first time somebody tells you that, you can't believe that, you know, most people. And so and and and he goes, no. No. We got a tape. We got this tape. Oh, I said, okay. I'm open minded. I'll watch tape. And it was, it was up in Virginia, and, they took a couple of weeks to get it down there. They gave it to me. And, so this was going on through the July.
And, so on thirst on on the Thursday night, it was the sixteenth. And the the reason I can go back and remember that, Mark, is because I turned it on and watched it. It was a guy named Al Carter. I bet you've never heard of him, have you? No. I haven't. Yeah. Well, he was an old PA wide triad from, Utah, and he had ripped off all of Phil Marsh's stuff. And you you're familiar with Phil Marsh?
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The pilot but I don't I don't much of his background either. The pilot connection?
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Mm-mm. That didn't ring a bell? Untaxing. Untaxing is a word in the lexicon that was attributed to Phil. Anyway, he went around. He wrote a book. I can't remember the book. This organization was called the Pilot Connection. But this wasn't him. I'll get into him in a minute. This was this guy Al Carter, and, he had basically ripped off all of Phil Marsh's stuff, stuff, and he was doing a video to an audience. And I was going on things like, oh, the only, liens are for government employees because it's listed on the back. You know? All that early stuff where you could get piece of the puzzle, but you couldn't put it together. And, I'm having a cough here this morning. Pardon me.
Yes. Yeah. And so, anyway, I had to stop that thing in the middle of it because and the reason I know is this date is because it was the night of Bill Clinton's first acceptance speech. And I wanted to see this young whippersnapper that was taking the political world by storm. And, if you'll remember, he played his saxophone that night. That was the night he talked about Carol Quigley, his favorite professor at Georgetown. And and and I figured it was gonna be, like, twenty, thirty minutes at the max. Well, it it was the longest political speech in US history. It was two hours long. And so by the time that was finished, I, it was late. I I was teaching back then. I must have had to teach on Friday because I went to bed, and I said, well, I'll watch this.
Must have had something to do Friday night too because I didn't get to watch it till Saturday. So Saturday morning, get up. It's like kind of this morning. Wake up, and you don't even need a cup of coffee. You just sit straight up in bed, like, wide awake. And I got out of bed, put threw some clothes on, and bolted down the stairs to get the VCR on and to get that tape in. And when the second half of it finished, and I said, oh my god. If they can screw us this bad here, what the hell else is happening that we don't know about? That's where I started, right there, on July 16, thirty three years ago today.
It's been a very interesting road since. The guy that he was ripping off, Phil Marsh, back in those days, he'd go around the country, had pretty big it's the first person I ever saw after I after this day. He was actually in town, like, a couple of days later where I was, and he was right at close to my house at a Hilton hotel. And I so I got over there early, and it was one of those big big rooms, you know, and the folding doors in the back or whatever. And, I got there. There was nobody there yet, and there was big couple of picnic tables, buffet tables there with information on of it, much of it free. I bought his book, and, I didn't have hardly two nickels to rub together back then.
And, so I remember, I sat down in front. And I remember during the meeting, I turned around and the whole damn place was full. I mean, every chair and standing room only in the hall. That was thirty three years ago, folks. That's how long this interest has been brewing in the underground. K? So, anyway, old Phil Marsh, they, they got him on on, I don't remember if it was, Rivera or or, Stone Phillips, but they got him on an ABC thing for an hour one Friday night, Phil Marsh. And and that's because he wasn't he wasn't teaching the right stuff. See, this is the same time John and Glenn and I are dancing, and, they didn't let them go six months. They put Phil Marsh on national television for an hour. Why?
Because he wasn't teaching the right stuff. And so there, they can let him run. They got him hooked already. They're gonna let him run like a big old marlin, and then they're gonna throw that drag and they're gonna reel him in and all the other fish that have been with you get reeled in too. So that's why they let them go like that. If they're if you don't have anything that damages them, you're wrong. They'll let you run. Okay? Because then they can catch all the other people and the dissidents potentially in the net. And so, Phil Marsh, if I remember right, him and his wife both died in federal prison.
Good guy, great intentions, but, humble beginnings, thirty three years ago today. I was trying to come up with Happy birthday. Well, thank you. I was trying to come up with some clever Beatles thing. You know, it was thirty three years ago today. Sorry to interrupt the band to play, but I couldn't come up with any good lyrics for that. So just to let you know, it's Patriot birthday day. And then, and then in a couple of days here on Sunday, we won't be together. It's my real birthday. So pretty important time of the year for me. Very symbolic to me.
And, it's funny I can go back and pinpoint the exact right date because of Bill Clinton. So anyway, that's what today is to me. It'll be real special. We got a special, we got an interview this afternoon with a new guy, Kevin Hoyt, I believe. And, so that's gonna go off. Paula, you're gonna route it through our stuff. Can people listen or just if y'all just people you know, y'all wanna hear every interview I do, and that's fine. I appreciate that. But it's pretty much regurgitated stuff. You're gonna hear the same stuff. You know? But, I I is there a method for people to listen live if they want, Paul? Can they dial into the platform, or they just wait to hear the recorded interview?
[00:15:20] Unknown:
I think, because I haven't actually talked to Kevin about the possibility of that. Typically, when, when the shows are recorded, they don't wanna do them live because they don't wanna let the cat out of the bag. They wanna polish them up first. Yeah. I will be I will be making sure that you're connected to Kevin,
[00:15:41] Unknown:
but it won't be through the Radio Ranch system, I don't think. Okay. Alright. We all have to wait and hear the interview. Kevin Hoyt's got quite a following, I guess. Julie set this up. He's he's got a bunch of problems with government. I think New Hampshire state, and I'm not sure about the federal implications. But as, they were telling me about him and his he's got this daughter that he is, absolutely adores, which is understandable. And, I I I don't know about all that. So we'll find out. I know one thing is if if, just a little bit of what Julie told me about what he's going through. This guy there, man, he needs this interview bad. Okay? Mhmm.
Because they're on him. So, this should put an end to a bunch of that. So I'm anxious. Excuse me for, to, do that interview this afternoon. Got another one sitting in the background with a guy named, oh gosh. What was his name? I really liked it. I can't think of it for the moment. I'll get it in a second. But, anyway, he wrote me this morning. He says, here's an interview I did with this big doctor on the on the who thing. You know, this they're trying to cook up another who thing in the background. And I said, I don't need to listen to it because if you become a national, it doesn't apply to us. So it'll be interesting. Yeah. It'll probably be scheduled with him here at some point. I don't know when.
So, anyway, there we are for the sixteenth, and there's Julie just piping right up. Yes, ma'am. Good morning.
[00:17:12] Unknown:
Good morning, and happy birthday. Happy happy birthday to you. I'm excited for your thing today. I'm sure that, Kevin doesn't want it live. He'll he'll wanna he'll wanna clean up the interview and and edit it. But, I wanted to tell you the thing that you were talking about earlier today, about that guy who branded the people. It's called, Rensselaer Polytechnic
[00:17:37] Unknown:
Institute. Yes. I met him up in DC. We came up to DC to a meeting for this consumer byline thing, and that's where I met him.
[00:17:47] Unknown:
A little nerdy. That's a great it's a great school.
[00:17:51] Unknown:
That it's the high rated higher than MIT. Very bright guy. He still sits in prison. By the way, the Bronfman gal was released within the last couple of weeks. I don't think they wanted to make a big deal out of it. And, she, says it's, what'd she say? She said he's innocent or she's trying to get him out of jail or something. Anyway, she's got access, one of the two Bronfman daughters. Evidently, they didn't have any swimmers. And, so, the, but they're the heirs to the Bronfman factory. They're the ones that own Seagrams and all that. They they made bunch of their money smuggling whiskey in the twenties. Surprise. Surprise.
[00:18:37] Unknown:
And, that's I want some no. Go ahead. Sorry. No. No. Go ahead with what you're gonna say. Oh, no. Sorry. I I thought you were done. So keep on going. You meant they Well, I would. In the twenties.
[00:18:49] Unknown:
Well, I mean, they got their initial start smuggling whiskey. Like, everybody like the Kennedy's and everybody else. You know? So give them a black market. Give them a black market, and they will perform. Yes. Go ahead, Julie. I'm finished.
[00:19:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Austin wanted me to tell all of you. He said he texted me and said that was a ton of information to study. I'm grateful. There are people like all of you guys out there. Thank you so much. So I texted him back and said, I hope you'll come on the call this Saturday. I haven't heard back from him yet, but so hopefully, he'll jump on on Saturday as well.
[00:19:23] Unknown:
Yeah. And, you know, somebody like Austin bellies up to the bar here last Saturday, and we just, you know, said, well, I I wanted a load, but did you have to dump the whole load on me? You know, that old story. Well, Austin, I'm sorry, baby. I didn't I didn't dump the whole load on you. You just got a partial load on but he certainly wouldn't understand that, but he will as we go forward. I'm pretty sure he'll be one, one of our family here. Sharp kid. Thank you, Julie, for, bird dogging him over here.
[00:19:54] Unknown:
I look forward to talking to him. I I know you told him on the show that you might you would let him plug his, company, and he didn't get a chance to do that. But he is with American Hartford Gold, and I did tell him that, look. Is there any type of metal deals connectivity
[00:20:09] Unknown:
or something.
[00:20:10] Unknown:
What? Now hold on. Somebody's Julie, somebody's trying to talk over you. Who who was that? You just spoke right over, Julie. Somebody Was it an accident or what?
[00:20:25] Unknown:
Somebody's saying that, it lost connectivity.
[00:20:32] Unknown:
Connectivity.
[00:20:34] Unknown:
Did it? Yeah. It was an accident. I'm gonna say I think it was Carl.
[00:20:40] Unknown:
Alright. Well Hi, Carl. We well, hold on. Are we are we connected back? Do we have the group here?
[00:20:50] Unknown:
Warning warning, Will Robinson. I think it might have been a personal thing,
[00:20:55] Unknown:
but I'm not sure. Oh, is the rest of the group visible on the board there?
[00:21:03] Unknown:
Yep. And I've heard Mark chime in, and, of course, Julie still has.
[00:21:09] Unknown:
Okay. Those of you that can see the FCC board, are the people still there? Do we get disconnected, please? What's going on?
[00:21:19] Unknown:
I can hear you. Oh.
[00:21:21] Unknown:
And I can, and I'm on FCC also. So Alright. Well, I'm assuming everything's alright. So whatever that was, try and go ahead. Yeah. Everything everything's fine. Somebody,
[00:21:31] Unknown:
I mean, they're I don't know. Maybe their Bluetooth dropped out or something like that.
[00:21:36] Unknown:
Okay. Go ahead, Julie. If you can make a note just saying that,
[00:21:42] Unknown:
so I was just saying that, Austin is with American Hartford Gold, and you had said the last time on the show that you would let him plug his, metals, group. He didn't have a chance to do so, but I told him. I said, look. I said, I don't know how many people on the show would be interested in buying any metals, but if you could put together a super duper, discount for the listeners, I said, you know, for anybody who might be interested, like, beat out all the other metal dealers. Like, if I were to call every single one of your competitors, your price would be the lowest lowest premium on on your spot price. I said that that would be maybe nice for people who still might be interested. And I said, I, of course, can't guarantee anybody would wanna buy, but, you know, that would be something nice to do.
[00:22:29] Unknown:
Yes. And I don't mind at all giving him a chance to plug where he works. So looking forward to hopefully talking to him again on birthday eve. So, let's see where else. Well, I was listening. Anybody got anything to add on what we've gone through so far? Anybody remember Phil Marsh or or or Al Carter or any of these guys from the old days? It's thirty three years ago, folks. Phil Marsh. You do? Okay. Yeah. He had quite a following. His big deal was untaxing, and he put the word untaxing into the lexicon. I don't hear it used too much anymore, but that was Phil. Dedicated guy, unfortunately, died in, like I said, I I I as my understanding, him and his wife both died in federal prison along with, oh, his son's still out there.
The the guy that Didn't the Browns also? Well, the Browns, we could talk about them. And and, the but I'm concentrating on who's the guy that doesn't like Bitcoin? Peter Schiff. Schiff. Yeah. Erwin Schiff. Peter Schiff's son. Yeah. That's the deal. I'm understanding that, and it was Erwin Schiff. He wrote the Federal Mafia and couple of he's one of the only guys that's had a book banned in America. A judge banned that book in America, and he died, in federal prison, unfortunately, for him handcuffed to a bed, I was told.
So, a lot of people have paved the way that didn't they they had parts of it, but they didn't have all of it. We got all of it. They don't touch us. They don't touch us. People are scared. You know? I understand that. But, you know, we've been doing this for fifteen years, never had an incident with the feds, and we've been poking the IRS for at least six or seven. And we I've never had anybody suffer any backlashes from them either. So if you're doubtful and skeptical, all I can offer you is a track record in the truth. Yes, Julie.
[00:24:44] Unknown:
Yeah. He was in, he was sentenced to seventeen and a half years in prison and his wife Marlene was, a term of fourteen years, and he was the founder of the 1990, society called the Pilot Connection Society.
[00:25:00] Unknown:
Yep. That was him. And, I was fortunate enough to see him one time, there right at the very first. And then what happened was I took his book, and I got all the free stuff I could read. And I got his book, and I remember staying up late into the night reading it. And that's where I came across for the very first time, Sun Tzu. I I I wouldn't here I am, a military kid who'd read all these books on Guadalcanal diary and all that stuff, chesty puller and all that stuff. And I I've never heard of Sun Tzu. And then I got a little further in the book and stumbled on an abbreviated version of the the protocols of the learned elders of Zion.
And, boy, if you wanna get good and sick, read that. Because I don't think you can read very much of that. In fact, the guy that got the original version in Yiddish, I think, was a fellow in England at the one of the big English museums named Victor Marsden. I remember his name. And Victor Marsden worked on that, translating it, and he his statement was I can't work on this longer than thirty minutes a day without getting physically sick. That's the protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. If you've never heard of them, don't be shocked. A lot of people haven't. If you you can go search them up online and, read them if you can stomach it. It's their blueprint.
It's the things that are in there, the different sections that say if you ever get caught, deny, deny, deny. What do we see? Deny, deny, deny. See, they follow it right real close. And, actually, there's they were named a forgery. The Jews tried to combat them as they got released, and they call them a forgery. Except that doesn't a forgery by its very definition have to have an original? Doesn't it? So another one of their canards, they throw it out there. People buy that, and they never think through it. If you really wanna get, I would encourage you to read a little bit of it, really.
And it just lays everything out. Just you see it unfolding today. Well, that's the big forgery, of course, and sorry sorry, Jaime. A forgery by its definition has to have an original. So that's first place I got exposed to any of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Was that Mark?
[00:27:38] Unknown:
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt your story. I was looking at our our chat board, and we had a, gentleman ask about, the CP five eighteen IRS letter. And I thought it'd be kinda interesting because a lot of people are starting to get these. A lot of nationals are. Yes. And be a good opportunity to kind of address that. Well, okay. You'll just wait a minute. I'll turn it right over. You can. I do know somebody else. My old friend Debbie's got the same thing going on.
[00:28:07] Unknown:
So they're trying Of course. They're trying to yes, they're trying to do something to show they're big bullies, and, well, they're they're gonna fall flat on their face again. So, anyway, that was said about about about what I was gonna say. That's where I started. And, in there, at that point, we didn't have Internet stuff. So every place I saw that had that sold books, like Omni Books or whatever, I'd write them a letter, say, please send me a list of everything you got. That's how I found, well, I saw McFadden mentioned, I believe, in the pilot society, but that's where I found the book on McFadden years ago. And so that's where I started, and I just desperately started looking for answers and further information.
I don't it it wasn't but a couple of weeks after that that I crossed paths with John and Glenn, and I don't remember that date. But it wasn't very long after that date. And, after that, boom, everything was off to the races. Okay. Well, speaking of John and Glenn and their tax efforts here, let's go into the CP 59 and then the CP five eighty something. So, Mark, I'm glad you're with us today. Before you do that, tell the story that you told me the other night about that guy you were talking to in Oregon.
[00:29:34] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. There's one of Roger's listeners who's a national, and his name's Mark. He's from Oregon. And he was traveling through Oklahoma City. And I got a chance to meet with him for coffee, actually two different times, two separate times. And, so he was telling me that he had an acquaintance. I think it was from work. And it was on, I forget where it's at. Wherever he was working at the time, I believe he was out of state. But anyway, he'd he'd mentioned the national status to this this gentleman, and he really kinda didn't show much interest. And then somehow he was talking to another, you know, unrelated gentleman and as they're talking, it rolls around to taxes and this gentleman goes, tells Mark, he goes, Well, I don't pay taxes. And he goes, What do you mean? He goes, Well, I'm a national.
Now he's from Mexico originally. He's he's a naturalized citizen. Right? So he says, oh, because you're Mexican? He goes, no. I'm a national. And he goes, yeah. I learned it from Roger Sales. And Mark fell over. And and then the guy says, yeah. This guy who Mark knew told me about that, and he got on to your information. So it goes back to that little ripple effect. You know? You just never know
[00:31:05] Unknown:
who's, you know, who you're talking to, and that information reaches out further than you expect. And and let me add my version of this and flip over the IRS stuff. This happened, I don't know, three, four years ago. My mom was still alive because she's the one that relayed the message to me. My half brother, his oldest daughter, she had a lot of pretty trouble life and whatnot. She made a lot of wrong decisions. Better way to put it. But she's getting older, and that tends to straighten you out a little bit. So, she is working for Walmart in a team that goes out.
They fly into a city, and they redo those Walmarts over a whole weekend, you know, remodel them, whatever. Right. And that's what she does. So, she's off I think it was up in the Northeast somewhere. And, she's working with the crew and all that, and the manager comes up to her. She says, he says, are you related to Roger Sales? And she goes, yeah. That's my my my father's brother, half brother to be more accurate. And, so he goes, okay. And he walks away. And and as she's going through the rest of the protocol there over the weekend, she has an occasion to walk into his office. And so he gets up and goes over and closes the door and opens the lap drawer on his desk and pulls out a copy of my book.
Wow. So you never know how far this reaches. You know? So okay. There's a couple of interesting stories for you. Mark, dive on into the deep end of the pool here. For these folks, this appears to be the latest way that they're gonna try and bully you and scare you and and and frighten you into the corner. And these are the only things they've got. This is the only thing they can do. And by the way, that's a very, very Jewish, reaction. You know? I I remember the guy that was had a bookstore on all, sold a bunch of books in New York City, Brooklyn, or somewhere. And all of a sudden, these big goons with baseball bats came in and, virtually destroyed the store. Well, that's the Jewish way. When they don't have any other answers, that's what they do.
They can't do that with us. They can try it. And it's interesting to see how their minds work and the frustration because they're dying to find something they can come back on us on, and there's nothing they can, to my knowledge. If they I promise you, if there was, they would have already done it. So, Mark, now I'll shut up and turn this over to you.
[00:33:44] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you, Roger. A lot of nationals, where they had been filing tax returns and then they don't file, they typically IRS will send them a, it's called IRS notice CP 59. That's CP, Charlie Papa, f niner. And that is a notice that we haven't received your tax form, tax returner. It says you need to file your whatever your tax year is, form ten forty tax return. That's the bold headline across the top of the letter. And then as it goes down through there, it says, did we make a mistake? And then the CP59 says, if you don't need to file, complete form 15,103, which is a ten forty return delinquency form.
And they even give you a spot that you can go download that form. And it says you have two options. You can mail us your completed form 15,103 or you can fax it and it gives a fax number. So and it says if we don't hear from you, you may lose your claim to refund on certain credits. We may determine your tax for you, which we certainly don't want and you may become subject to backup withholding. And we definitely don't want that. That's usually where they start holding out 30% of your check for federal taxes. Okay?
So anyway, that's kind of the basic overview. If you don't respond to the CP59 or you just respond with a letter and a copy of your affidavit, which a lot of people are doing, it just gets ignored. And they'll send out a c p five sixteen letter, which is a reminder letter that you haven't filed your return. And if you don't respond to that or you respond in a different way that they're willing to accept, then they'll roll it over to a final notice which is a CP518. CP518. And it's really simple. So far, I haven't heard any kind of blowback if people fill out this form 15,103. It's called a form ten forty return delinquency and you're given an opportunity to explain why you haven't filed.
And of course the top has your basic contact information and then it's got three sections. If you already filed the tax return and you put that information down, If the person addressed on this notice, you're talking about the CP59-five 16 and the five eighteen. If that person that's addressed on that notice is deceased, then they want the date of death and some more a little bit more information. And then it says, if you don't think you have to file a tax return for the year in question, the tax year in question, right? Got a little blank for you to put in the proper year.
And it says, explain why you don't think you're required to file a tax return for blank year. Note the answers to these questions apply to blank tax year. Because, you know, they're always, like, a year behind. So you gotta pay attention to what tax year you're responding to. So it says my filing status was, well, if you're a national, then you're you're either gonna be filing as a single or married filing separately. There are no other options. If you're married, it's going to be married filing separately whether or not your spouse is a national or if you're single, you just check single.
And then the following applied to me. And it was the one of the options is I'm not a US citizen or permanent resident. Bingo. That is one. Yep. Now check this out. Below that, it says my total income. Well, if you don't have any income from a US source, you can put zero right there. And then for the reason for not filing, excuse me, reason for not filing, I would suggest something to the effect of as a nonresident alien, comma, I did not receive income from any for tax year 2023 or whatever tax year's involving. See attached affidavit of citizenship. Now you can only squeeze so much on that line, and that is almost exactly all that you can put on that line, what I just read. I'll read it one more time.
As a non resident alien, I did not receive income from any US source for tax year and then whatever your tax year is. In this case, it was a 2023. See attached affidavit of citizenship. Now you can just write a one page little cover letter basically explaining that if you want and attach a copy of your affidavit and submit it with this form 15,103 and that should put that to bed. Now you are signing it under penalty of perjury that the information is true and correct to the best of your knowledge. Not a big deal. And one last thing, you know, they are threatening with, you know, different actions.
But if you know, they try to come back and say it's a frivolous filing or anything like that, remember you're not under their tax code. Correct. And we've had people that have faced frivolous filing fines and they submitted a letter explaining how as a non resident, they're not susceptible to that. Those codes don't apply to them and IRS has dropped those frivolous filing fees. So you don't have to really worry about dealing with this. We've got the upper hand. It's just that you need to put a little time into thinking about how you want to respond and bounce that idea off of a couple people who have had experience and and know what's going on. And and like Roger said, I think it was yesterday, or day before, it was like, don't get a letter and just be so fired up that you think you gotta answer back that same day. That's ridiculous. Don't do that.
And matter matter of fact, that's pretty dangerous in my book. So you wanna think about a little bit and and, you know bounce it off somebody else. Some people will you know send in the letter or copy of that letter. Scan your you know please if you're in this fight please get a scanner where you can scan documents in and don't be trying to send them via text message with a photo through your phone. That's just ridiculous. If you're in the paperwork fight, you need to have the tools to do that fight. One of those is a scanner and learn how to work it. And it and you'll find out if you do it right, it really streamlines your world because you can scan a document, save it on your computer if you know how to name it right.
And, from there on out, you can tuck away that piece of paper in your file and never have to go back and pull it out again if you don't unless you need the original. So I just find, you know, look at your deadline that you need to file and, you know, give it a week or two weeks. And and, if you're facing something like that, I'll be happy to review it for you. Now I can't do any writing for you. My schedule just won't allow me to fill out forms for you. But if you want to have me do a quick review, you can email it to me at strawmanmarkallcaps dot com. That's strawman, s t r a w m a n, just like it sounds, mark mall caps dot com. Now it doesn't have to be capitalized. That was just my moniker when I came on Roger's show because my my saying was your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction.
Does not automatically convey jurisdiction.
[00:42:01] Unknown:
Nope. So with that information, I yield, Roger. Okay. Well, let me add a couple of things in that limited space there if you're answering that. You could put explanatory statement attached exhibit a or whatever, and and go ahead and write it out where you've got more space so you're not limited to the space. And you could also say something like I plan to pay all constitutional taxes that I owe, including eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b taxes. That reverts right back to their regulatory, statement. And you could, put your affidavit in there again and label it exhibit b, attach c, exhibit b, whatever. Just a couple of things like that. Those are only things that I wanted to add, I think, Mark. And so, really, this whole threat
[00:42:51] Unknown:
Those are great points.
[00:42:52] Unknown:
This whole threat that they've come out with here, some new threat. They know damn well you don't owe for that year. They've gotten your affidavit or they wouldn't be sending you this. So, I just play the game.
[00:43:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I suspect if we were to drill down and ask a few questions of these people receiving these notices, I'm betting they're like a $10.99, contractor. Yep. That'd be it. And they didn't fill out I would've guess they're not filling out a revocation of election, which some people believe you don't need. And so the IRS is sitting there waiting to get a, you know, a tax return, and they're not getting it because they're receiving a ten ninety nine, but they're not receiving a matching ten forty tax return. So that's what they're expecting.
[00:43:42] Unknown:
Are the people that you have been contacted about this, are they ten ninety nine employees? Because that's what Debbie is. She's an insurance agent. I just never drilled I never drilled down to find out. So Well, if you get another one, ask them. Vetting. I'm doing. Yeah. It's just an educational guess. I think you're probably pretty right. Might have some listeners
[00:44:01] Unknown:
might have some listeners right now that have been through this and received the CP 59 letter, and I'd be curious to know if they're a a ten ninety niner or and did they do a revocation of elections? So Yes. If anybody's on this call and they wanna chime in, let let us know. Did they start this is Rex. I received a
[00:44:23] Unknown:
I received a w two and not a ten ninety nine. I haven't received I got mixed mixed advice so far as far as the, revocation of elections. Some people told me don't send it in because it puts a target on your back, and others are saying you have to say send it in.
[00:44:47] Unknown:
Well, now when I'll hold on. Rex, have we spoken before?
[00:44:54] Unknown:
We have. It was a few months ago Okay. Or six months ago, I think.
[00:44:59] Unknown:
I forgot what I was gonna ask you. When you say revocation of election, are you talking about just sending the IRS notice, or are you talking about applying for back taxes either that you did not go back and claim or that you've already filed for? Is that what you're talking about with the revocation of election? Or I wanna make sure we got our terminology right here.
[00:45:22] Unknown:
The, sending a letter of intent not to or Okay. Well, that's revocation line. Okay. Well, that's you're you're cutting
[00:45:32] Unknown:
your ties with them on the on your status. Technically, the revocation of election is when you're going back and filing for, in a process to go back and get money that's either owed or you're trying to get money back. I disagree. Oh, okay. Well, I understand. Disagree with that. Well, Mark, give us your size.
[00:45:53] Unknown:
Well, it's it's, you know, you elected to be paying taxes when you filed your first Right. Ten forty. Right. And that could have been at age 16. Of course, it's not until you're 18. And so all this is doing is severing that time. You're saying, I'm no longer electing to pay taxes. And once you file that, there's a five year period that you can't file taxes. You can't return to filing a federal income tax for five years according to the IRS code. So, you know, and some people say do file it. But trust me, as soon as you file your letter and a copy of your affidavit, the IRS knows that you're a national. Yeah. That's right. They know.
So don't worry about paying a target on your back because what if there's nothing for them to target. Okay. Well, this system in their they're not under their tax code.
[00:46:50] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And that's true. Once they've received notice, that's true. I was talking about that my understanding on revocation of election was always filing to get money back and not sending the notice. After me. K. Okay. Well, that's just that's the what I've carried for all these years from John and Glenn. So it's just my mistake or different definition. So, that's why I asked Rex about that because I don't wanna get those things confused. I would assume all of you would wanna give the IRS notice that you filed your affidavit. K?
That's separating yourself from the system, and this is our we got two teeth. Big, big, big teeth. This is one of them because what that does is, of course, pull you out of being responsible for the death that's generating all that user that, all the usury, the vigorous. That's what they wanna do is they wanna get you locked up in that. And, so, of course, that pulls us out of that. And the other thing, is so important, and I lost my train of thought. But that's what you're doing, and that's that's the big deal. The other one is, allegiance for protection and switching the protection back to the state, which is something we know about. We haven't really put teeth into it yet, but we can, and I hope we will.
[00:48:14] Unknown:
Well, we got a couple of stories on that along that line that, should hear back today a little bit about it. And, and that's as far as I'm willing to say about it because this person's wanting to come online, share their story, and I think it'll be a doozy. Okay. So, Rex, just real real quick. Why were you under the impression or why were you told not to do a revocation of election? I'm just curious.
[00:48:44] Unknown:
That was advice from Paimon. I don't know if you're familiar with
[00:48:49] Unknown:
that guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, he doesn't know what he he doesn't have any idea what we're doing over here. So
[00:48:57] Unknown:
Well, not only that, he charges ridiculous prices as a percentage of whatever they're saving you on taxes. And mind you, this guy has been prosecuted, not criminally, let me back up, he's been sued civilly and lost. And here's the other thing too. When you hear somebody promoting him, they are an affiliate and they're getting a cut. Yep. I think it's 50% of whatever somebody comes in and say, yeah, again, it's a percentage of your taxes that you save. And let's say it's, $2,000, that you're gonna pay payment, then he cuts that in half with his affiliate.
Yep. So and they don't disclose that generally. So when you see him come on and they're promoting him and dah dah dah dah dah dah, well, they're not telling you that that the person promoting him is getting a cut off their business.
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Yep.
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So Mike Brown Like I said go ahead. I did an interview. I think his name's Mike Brown over there on Sons of Liberty or something. And That's Tim Brown. Yeah. He We did one interview, and he never has called back. And then somebody told me he's got payment on there all time. Now the guy's got, like, nine children. Okay? So, but, yeah, that's the deal. It's Kickback City and, he has no idea what we're doing or understanding of it, Rex, quite frankly. Right. Right. And and why would you follow somebody
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who went through court, got sued and lost? So here he is telling people there's no law. There's no law. Well, you know, maybe not for nationals. But even as a national think about this, guys. Even as a national, if you receive income from a US source, like some type of US agency, not a third party contractor, but if that income is considered to be derived some way through the government to you, okay, directly like USDA, HUD, Housing and Urban Development. If you're receiving money directly from them, that money might be taxable. Not all, not all of your money. Let's say, excuse me, let's say you're an employee or a subcontractor and you're getting a ten ninety nine or a w-two, that's not coming from The US Government.
Right? But maybe over here, let's say, you're a farmer and you apply for some kind of grant and USDA gave you that grant money. I would say that that's probably taxable, but that amount's only taxable, not the amount that you're receiving from an employer or a ten ninety nine. So you have to look at the context of where that income's coming from and, decide how to file your taxes. So hope that helps.
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Rex, you also said he said there's he's on the older show me the law deal. Right? You you know where those people are falling short? Because that was Debbie Kidd and Bannister and all the they put a big ad in the New York Times, $50,000. If you can show us the law. Well, the law is not in the statutes. They're looking in the statutes. It's in the regulations. It's on the first page, and it very distinctly says, although mister Peyman has not seen it, an income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States or residents. And to the extent of eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, both constitutional taxes, by the way, all nonresident alien individuals.
There's only two statuses. You're sent you're free or you're a slave. And there they are exhibited right there in that regulation, and they call regulations little laws. So payment, there's the law. But nobody's ever recognized that before because nobody's ever found it with John Benson to my knowledge. So does that help, Rex?
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That does. And I think, there's a revocation of election letter template on the nationalstatus.info
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site. That's correct. It's a 13 page notice. Yep.
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I I should probably include that with my response to the IRS, I assume.
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Do you have a do you have a separately. Do you have a response for them? Have they contacted you?
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I haven't responded to the,
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to the CP five eighteen IRS letter yet. When did you get it? You respond to the CP59 and the CP516 letters?
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I don't recall ever receiving either of those. Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, when did you get saw was CP18.
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When did you get this one? Three weeks ago. Do it reply quickly.
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Yeah. So it's it's easy. Just use the CP50103 and, put a cover letter. You can use just the wording that I showed you in the chat. That's really all that's needed or you can do like Roger. And thank you, Roger. It's a a great tip that you can say see attached explanatory letter and exhibits. Then you can stretch your response outside of that little line that they give you to put that information in. And, but again, it's up to you. I put see the attached affidavit, and you're putting a cover letter with that document anyway. So but you could go with with Roger's direction.
You can go as deep as you want with an with an attachment. It'd be like a memorandum of law, You know? Maybe you ought to attach, well, it's too big. I started to say, Devon citizenship, handbook.
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But in the on the form one five one zero three in pie, explanatory statement attached and then label it exhibit a or exhibit one or whatever you wanna identify it. And then over on the top of the page, you put exhibit one. So you're linking them together right there. K? When you send the affidavit, you'll put exhibit two, and it's the top of the affidavit, exhibit two. So you're linking them. So even an IRS bureaucrat can understand. Okay?
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Yeah.
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Yep. Rex, what part of great idea. Rex, what part of the country are you in, man? I don't remember talking to you before.
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I'm in Florida.
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What part? Tampa. Okay. Real Florida, I call it. Okay. Yeah. We got a number of people down there. I'm surprised. We got enough folks down there for y'all to have a a get together. If you how far is Tarpon Springs away from you?
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Thirty minutes.
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You got up to Tarpon Springs. We got a good listener up there that owns a Greek restaurant. He I bet he'd throw down a throw down a feed bag that all of y'all would talk about for a while. So if we can ever get that together, Bob Mark Bob Morgan's down there that talks in here all time, old time listener. And, yeah, we got a number of folks down there. I've forgotten how many, actually. But, anyway, great to hear from you.
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Yeah. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate that. This is helpful. Yeah, man. Made me nervous when I got that IRS. Well,
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of course. And, you know, I don't know if you've heard me say it, but Brent Winters, our attorney. He says, Roger, I've I've seen grown businessmen successful wet their pants when they get a letter from the IRS. That's how how bad these people scare people. And they've done a wonderful job. It's right on there. Well, tax farming is one of their deals. They've been doing it for thousands of years, all all the way back to Egypt, actually. So that's what's going on. They're tax for farming, and they, get a commission out of what they collect. As, Glenn said, why do you think they call him the commissioner?
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K.
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So, so, anyway, anything else, Rex, we can help you with?
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One last thing. I I've heard some US nationals are fight filing a ten forty x to reclaim, like, their past three years. Well,
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that's what I would cons that's what I consider in my mind revocation of elections going after that back money. We can do that. Mark, you wanna give him a rundown on, what we've found to this point? They're not really responding too much to that approach, it seems. But, one of our guys called in, I guess, that he filed, and the woman got hysterical with him at the IRS. And it's like started screaming,
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and you're going to jail over this. We got 500,000
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of these things sitting here. So that's the report we got back, which is pretty cute. So, Mark, you wanna address Rex's, Rex's query there?
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I apologize. I was busy trying to put stuff over in the chat message. Somebody come online. This is the one thing I don't like about free conference call. In the chat board, we're putting information out there. And if you come in after that was posted, you join free conference call after that was posted, you don't see anything in the chat messaging. All they all they do is they're catching on to what we're saying now and wanting that information. So this is why, everyone, please post this stuff also on the, Radio Ranch Chitango channel.
We have a a channel that we're we usually keep up to date, and it's called numeral2radioranch.chatandgo, chatango,.com. 2radiochat excuse me. Number2radioranch.chitango.com. And so Murr is just faithfully posting a lot of stuff out there. And by the way, if you missed her show Sunday, it was really good. I'd highly recommend going back and listening to that. I I happen to catch it. I set an alarm. So if I'm not too busy, I'll I'll tune in and try to listen to her show. So, anyway, I'll try to go over here on number two, radioranch. Mhmm. Detangle.com, and I'll try to repost this information. Rex was asking about saying some people tell him to file a ten forty x. So I was gonna I think I can speak on that if I got it right. Yeah. I could speak. You or Mark, either one. Go ahead.
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The revocation of election is you giving the IRS notice that you are not part of their tax system and that you're not obligated to pay income tax. That you are obligated to pay any taxes that fall under five seventy one b or five seventy seven b.
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Correct.
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Now the ten forty x is a corrected return. That is if you're gonna go back and correct a ten forty form that was filed before as a SURF and you want to refile that and correct that form, you do a ten forty x. A ten forty n r is what you would use if your employer took money out of your check and withheld for the IRS, and you want that money back for the current or previous tax year. Now, like, 2024, you're gonna file for that refund in 2025 using a ten forty n r. Is that close, Mark?
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Well,
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I apologize. I'm a little distracted. The revocation of election is just an official way of telling the IRS that you're checking out of their system. Okay. And if you're wanting to go back and file a ten forty x, like, if you already filed a standard ten forty a form as a US citizen, then allegedly, you can file a ten forty x with a ten forty NR and request to get all your income tax back. So far, I don't know of anybody who's been successful in doing that. I have no evidence of anybody ever being successful in getting back any taxes that they paid in under a ten forty.
Now if you haven't filed a ten forty, I believe you can go back and and and go back, at least three years, and get that money back. I'm getting ready to test that out with somebody. Cool. So we'll see. Yeah. They hadn't filed in years. And so I think it they had withholdings, but they're just like, well, I'm I'm I've got withholding. Why do I need to bother filing? And so now we're gonna go back and see if we're successful in in, getting the last three years where they had not filed previously a ten forty a, a regular ten forty as a US citizen. So we'll see how that turns out. Alright. That gets you, Rex? A lot of information there.
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Yeah. This was very helpful. I need to drop for a a 12:00 meeting, but I really appreciate you guys, to be able to share your experiences of what what's working and what's not. It's, invaluable.
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I really appreciate it. You're very welcome. Go back and visit us more often, Rex. Thanks, guys. Will do. You're welcome. Have a great day, Rex. Day. Ciao. Ciao. You too. Bye. Alright. There you go. Rex off into the meeting sunset. Anybody else out there? You know, the meeting the the the prime time here with us that Mark takes out of his extremely busy schedule. And I don't know how busy mine is, but I it's my favorite two hours of the day is being with you guys. So anybody else? Any new folks out there or got a question or comment Or don't have to be new, anybody in general?
Yeah. We must be doing a pretty good job then. Hey, Roger. Somebody. Yes. Who's that?
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This is Mike up in, Rhode Island.
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Hey, Mike. How you doing? Doing great. How are you? Pretty good, I think, all in all. That
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that's good. I just, jumped on a little bit late. Did I hear correctly today is your birthday?
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Today is my Patriot birthday.
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Patriot birthday.
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Uh-huh. Okay. Well, happy birthday for that. Yeah. Thank you. Maybe even more important than my real birthday because that was started my first life, and this one started my second life.
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I hear you on that one. Well, on the tax subject, I was gonna ask Mark this previously, but, might help for other people to hear it as well. So when you quote that that CFR one dot one dash one, and it says we're only subject only subject to yes. A. Only subject to eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b. Yes. And then you go to look look at that section, it, it says further down in the same section eight seventy one where it says, as a nonresident alien, you're still subject to this other stuff. And if you're in a country for more than a hundred and eighty three days, then it's 30% pretty much across the board. How do we address that? So if we're if we're communicating that, how do we say, no. We're we're only subject to eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b when the rest of the section includes other taxability.
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Well, on the specifics of your question, I've never read down that far. They're both constitutional taxes. I didn't know about any kind of a hundred and eighty three days, and that may be for a foreigner right there. So I don't know. Mark, you got an idea on that? We've never had any blowback on it, though, Mike. Go ahead, Mark. Is Mark not there?
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Okay. Well, while he's catching up or whatever, in in that section eight seventy one, if you go to 26 CFR eight seventy one, it's got the, you know, the subsection b that we reference. But a little further down, I don't have it directly in front of me at the moment, but a little further down, it it, it does reference nonresident aliens, and it says if, if you have, you know, these other types of income or you're in the country for more than a hundred and eighty three days, then you're taxed at this, you know, 30%.
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Well, don't forget if you're a foreigner in here doing business or something, they're you're nonresident alien too. Okay? So that's probably who that's directed at with some kind of a geographical residency statement.
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Okay.
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Okay. That'd be my guess. Mark, are you back yet? Yeah. No. He's not. So, that'd be my guess, Mike. That's about the best answer I can give you.
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Yeah. I I'm just curious. So, like, you know, if if assuming we get pushed back and and and someone says, well, even in a conversation, it's like, oh, let me go look at that, and you look at eight seventy one, and it says that. No. I it says says for nonresident alien. So I'd say that's for foreigners myself. They'd fall under that category too, wouldn't they? Yeah. I I would assume so, but but if we're aligning ourselves, you know, that that national, we can extrapolate how national means nonresident alien.
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Well, there's a better way to look at it, and that is to go back to just basic conceptual approach. There's only two statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Right? Right. Well, we know who the slave is. They tell us right there. So the other one's gotta be the free one no matter what they label it.
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K? May I? Yeah.
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Certainly.
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Yeah. Hey. Yeah. Hi, Roger. This is Matt. Hey. I think, I think what that's referring to I don't have it in front of me, but I I've looked it up recently, and I think that's,
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to avoid
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expatriation, to avoid taxes. I think that's what that's under, and that's not what we're doing. So I think that's the answer right there. It's 877, I believe is is people that expatriate to avoid paying taxes. And we're not doing that. No. We're we're pulling ourselves out of the out of DC because we don't reside there, and back to the land here, you know, the several states. So I don't know if that helps or not, but that's that's my take on that whole thing.
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I think you're probably right, man. This is what I know, Mike, out of all these years, you've never had a question on it or or any backlash on it from them. That's about I think about the first time you can go down and check on this website, Shane's, the letter that I wrote back to the IRS for Shane. I'm not sure where Paul's got it stashed. I think that was in about 2019 or '18, And that's when we first started putting the IRS on notice of everything. I'd never thought of it before that. And Shane was the first one that did it. And Shane Belli, yeah. I'll do it. You know? And, sends them he gets back threatening a $5,000 frivolous filing penalty, and that letter on the website is what I wrote back to them.
I guarantee it burned somebody's retina, and, we Shane's never heard from him again. They're all bluff, man. They're all bluff. Yeah. So, Mike, I I hope that if if it was challenged. They're they're not gonna challenge it. They're not gonna challenge it because they're not gonna risk the run the risk of bringing this information into any kind of spotlight. They're scared to death of this.
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That makes sense.
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I mean, look. They have to stay on mute. They have to stay on mute when you submit an affidavit. They can't rebut. They can't deny. It takes all their power away. They're somebody comes under well, when are we gonna get a k or a a national court case in there? You think they're ever gonna let this get into a courtroom? Really? Are you that naive? Probably not. K. So, we got we got you Mike, do you know what you got when you got one green ball in your left hand and one green ball in your right hand?
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Two green balls.
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You got the jolly green giant right where you want him. And that's what we've got. K?
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I believe that.
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So, man, listen. These guys, if there's anything that pops up, they take they take care of it pretty quick like John and Glenn versus Mark Pilate, Mark, the Pilots Society guy. They let him go for years, man. Put him on Friday night for an hour on TV talking about untaxing. They didn't let John and Glenn go six months before they jumped on them. If we if we weren't right, they they they would have jumped on this already. Okay? I think. Anyway, they're scared to death. They won't touch it. All they the best they've got are these bluff letters that the passport office sends out. They tried missus Robinson. That didn't do any good. They don't know what to do about it because they can't do anything about it. That's the problem for them. Thank goodness.
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Mhmm.
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We gotta help I I pulled up that section, and and and it's, it's speaking, specifically to capital gains. So in the case of a nonresident alien individual present in The United States for a period of four periods aggregating a hundred and eighty three days or more during the taxable year, there's hereby imposed to such a year a tax of 30% of the amount, for which the gains derive from sources within The United States. So, again, I guess that United States automatically means just the corporation.
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Of course. It means federal zone.
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So Okay. All I can do That slays that.
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So I think I think that must be for four years. Okay. Yeah. Who, who's that?
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Hey. It's Jack in Colorado.
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Hey, Jack. We haven't heard from you in a while.
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Hey. I've been lurking. I'm actually reading that, and it it is under eight seventy one b, and it's section two. It's capital gains of aliens present in The United States There you go. In eighty three days or more. So it's still going back to that capital gains through corporate.
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Yep. Dividends and that sort of thing. So Yep.
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And I think it's talking about foreigners here, not nationals. Because, well, they're foreign nationals too. You know? I mean, you call them a you'll see a newspaper article, a story of so and so, a national, an Austrian national, or a so and so national. So you'll see those other countries identified in this status as a national occasionally. K. Good. Yeah. Mike, that get did Mark ever show back up, or is he gone or what? Okay. I guess he had to dart away with something. He takes care of his elderly parents. Yes.
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Did are you having your,
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interview with, Kevin Hoyt today? This afternoon. Yes. Three to five my time.
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Do you remember when I brought him up originally?
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I do not.
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Yeah. When I did bring him up, Julie felt she knew who he was, and Julie and I went back and forth. And I'm pretty much sure there's a consensus that this is the right Kevin Hoyt. Anyways, he originally did this interview with Sam Anthony. That's the kingpin in this new media organization called Your News that is trying to get rid of all the censorship that's normally coming through a lot of other places. Yes. And this is the guy who also, I think, does the aggregation and stuff for Amazon.
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Do you remember that? Oh, it seems like I do. Yeah.
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Yeah. So that guy's name is Sam Anthony. So you might ask Kevin when you're speaking to him if it works out and may not, but how you get your message out and whether there's a contact that he knows in Sam Anthony's group, which I do believe is your news, that this could be done, where they might just pick up your show that you're doing and or maybe you wanna build some shows that are or or, you know, put put off the interviews to them that you've done with Spingola and such. Okay. Well, if I get the chance, I'll see you tomorrow. Anthony is a key guy in this whole thing from beginning, and he's been interviewed by everybody. You know?
Mike Adams, you name it. Everybody's, interviewed Sam Anthony, and Kevin was just one of those guys. I do believe he's not. I've never heard
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of him before. Let's get Kevin and see if we can get him in the fold first, and we can open communications. I'll probably have my mind and plate full talking to him this afternoon about what we're scheduled to talk about. You know,
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you know, I got an app on my phone, Roger, for your news, and I don't know how I got it. Because if you go to the Play Store, it's not there. Because I've got an Android phone, and I have to go through there. So and I know that it I was in Yandex when I did it, and I think I got that app by Yandex, not the Play Store.
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Okay. So, anyway, I just thought I'd let you know some of that stuff. Alright. I'm trying to remember it. I doubt if it'll be brought up today, but I think we'll probably find a very interested, recipient in Kevin. I mean, if there's anybody from what Julie's told me, if there's anybody that needs our stuff, it's him. So he'll get a real instant, almost, feedback on if it works or not because, I think the feds and the state of New Hampshire are both after him for something. Anyway, well, hopefully, I don't think there'll be any screw ups this afternoon. Paul's on top of it. So, hopefully, today that will get done, and I'll, we'll see if we can rope him into the fold here, Samuel. Okay? Thank you. Yeah. Who else who else has got? Okay, buddy. Who else got something? Comment on taxation.
I see. Merge items. Hold on. Yeah. We'll get to you a second. What, Paul?
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Mark, put a note in the chat at 12:03PM eastern family emergency.
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So I don't know if he'll be back. Okay. So he's gone. That's what happened. Probably something happened to one of his parents, unfortunately. Okay. Part of the tax contingent's gone. Who's got the tax question?
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Yeah. George Idaho. How are you doing? And congratulations on your Patriot Awakening Day. I guess that's what you mean by your Patriot birthday. Yeah. And what what, maybe I missed it. What prompted that?
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I I commented that. That at the end of the day. Did your odds get caught? No. It's too bad. No. Guy walked up to me and said that we were at a meeting. I gave a lot of background on it because it has some significance. The guy that was running the company is in federal prison today named Keith Ranieri. He was the president of that. Gave some of that background on it. But, somebody walked up to me in a meeting and said income tax is illegal. These guys I knew, and I like everybody else that probably that has that question presented to them is thought, well, boy, that's crazy. But they said, no. We got a tape. We got a tape. I said, well, give me the tape. I'm open minded. And that was the tape I watched on this day, this night, thirty three years ago, which was Bill Clinton's first acceptance speech, which is why I can nail the date.
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Got it. Got it. So you had a tax question, George? Great. I, that's gonna prompt me to to to to go back in my analyst to remember the day my oxygen was getting gored, and I remembered having a conversation with somebody says, you're just calling me for fire insurance, you know. Because a lot of people are, like you said the other day, just pan panicky about some issue. But I think that if that wakens a person to go deeper, it's almost like the people that Christ was talking to in the Bible. You know, someone went away sad because they were very wealthy or whatever in their knowledge or, you know, what they thought was the the, the truth, but then some go deeper like maybe, Nicodemus. So Yeah.
But, yeah, I I had a comment here that I thought was very thought provoking about this whole and it it might I don't mean to raise the ire of you. So please, listen through. When they are calling you the name and number, I don't I'm not asking you promises. You can go off on me if you want. When they are calling you the name and number, that is actually an executive level contract. Your name is registered as a result of vital statistics. That is an executive level branch government function. SSM is also part of the executive level branch, and it is a result of The Hague 43 public order and safety and 55 of The Hague, the administration of user front.
So you have an executive level contract, which you're enforcing now so The US can fulfill its obligation. You are doing what is required of you under the constitution and the contract. The contract is the birth certificate and the SSN. No need to be afraid of it if you understand its purpose. Its purpose was not to enslave you, but to free you. If you're going to claim ownership of it, it will enslave you because you're making claim to a use of fraud. The beneficiary of everything is the state, not you. The intentional beneficiary is the state. They intended to receive a benefit from this interest or property. If you're using it and not giving anything back, now you know where the tax comes due on you. The use of fraud comes back. You claimed ownership of the name and decide not to give anything back. You argue with them and said, that's not me. There is no authority to use that name for personal identification. It is strictly for accounting purposes for what you are doing.
Anyway, that's our Where
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are you getting where are you getting all that kind of stuff?
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That that is an article from it was kind of a compilation of articles that was, from, question and answer that, I believe Boris and Friends were doing. Boris Ericsson is doing. He he's in Tampa, by the way. So so you're in Tarpon Springs, I think, is where the PGA plays a tournament. I've been I've been over there. Could be.
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I I can tell you one thing that stuck out at me. He said the contract was a birth certificate. That's not true. You're born into the condition the birth certificate represents that we think is a warehouse receipt. It doesn't cause the connection. You're already born into it whether you got a birth certificate or not.
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K?
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Right. I mean, I think there's a franchise like that that presumes speaks as a George Harvey interest in the live event. They they create, that out of the result of the god you know, the force majeure, which would be the act of god. Right? The the conception.
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Okay. Well, you know, it's what we do is so simple and crap like that is so complex that people trying to find some kind of answer that they can justify. And I I don't know about any of that. I don't care about any of that. I care about what we do because I understand it, and I know it works. And they recognize it. I don't know if they recognize any of that other stuff. So the my my my but what I have found
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you you bring that kind of stuff you you you pardon me? Sorry. Fungal fumble fingers. I hit the wrong button and and threw a ding in there.
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Okay.
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Why is he in why is he in federal prison? He shouldn't be in federal we can get him out of federal prison. Who's this? A contract. It's all financial. This is George. You know, the fell the fellow you said, Rainier, unless he unless he killed somebody, but Rainier the guy Rainier, you said, Keith Rainier, I think you said. Why is he in federal prison? There shouldn't be anybody really in federal prison. What was the name of that?
[01:23:23] Unknown:
Somebody said it a minute ago. Him and him and one of the Bronfman girls had this sex ring, and, he he would brand these girls with his initials and all kinds of stuff. Bronfman, we've been in for four years. He she just got out, I believe, recently, and he's in jail for life, Keith Ranieri. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I missed you. Nothing to do with taxes that was anything else. It's about sex parties Gotcha. And branding young girls with true crime. With their Was it Nexium, Roger? Nexium was the name of it. It was a couple of years ago. So no connection whatsoever, George. Okay?
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Alright.
[01:24:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know about all that other stuff. I because to me, it doesn't it's not right. That doesn't cause any jurisdiction. It is caused when you're born. You're born to parents who were also in the system. You're born in the feudal system. That's why they ask you the two questions. So I just don't pay attention to that other kind of stuff because I know we've got answers here. If you wanna continue to explore and think that we don't have the right answers, that's certainly your prerogative. But, all that other stuff just it it just makes no sense because it's not right.
It's people trying to get the answers that we've got here, and they always make it so complex and it's around the all cap and the birth certificate where, really, it's not at all. They've already missed the point.
[01:25:00] Unknown:
What? You're right. I don't know if you were hearing me. I think what it's getting at is the financial part of the equation because Well, it could be. I I've listened. I don't know. Earlier about, you know, we'll still be using silver and gold. We're still participating in the fourteenth amendment franchise when we buy and sell. You know what I'm saying? We're talking to two different people. Yep. Well, so are all the other people in the world because the dollar is a reserve currency. Does that mean they they fall under the jurisdiction of The US too? Yes. I believe it's a world system myself, and that's why I believe that the people that use the dollar to diversity of citizenship
[01:25:33] Unknown:
as well. Okay. Does that mean that the people all over the world that use the dollar, are they subject to the jurisdiction of the federal government too? Down here in Ecuador, we're on the dollar. Are these, are these, so the Ecuadorians
[01:25:49] Unknown:
down here,
[01:25:51] Unknown:
George, the Ecuadorians down here, we're on the dollar. So you think they're all over under your S jurisdiction widen the IRS and EPA and all those other agencies down here, whipping them into shape?
[01:26:04] Unknown:
I would argue that, yes, it is, as a result of the the, eighteen eighteen sixty three banking act and the civil war that that was a a beginning of the war economy, which was designed to the world wars and everything else. So, yes, I think it was a whole plan, and we talk about that, the Chalmunid plan. So, I mean Hold it. I think you're a group here. Fits all of the puzzle. Alright. You're trying to tell me the Ecuadorians because they use the dollar along with Panamanians and there's a couple other countries that you that those are all under your jurisdiction,
[01:26:35] Unknown:
and they can tax them, send to any agency, or do any of that stuff simply because they use the dollar in exchange? Is that what you're trying to feed us? Not simply. I think there's other there's other agreements. There's treaties. I mean, Ecuador is Hague. Right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Is that I have no idea. I've never checked into it.
[01:26:53] Unknown:
I'm in. Frankly.
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I just don't put any faith in all that because it doesn't have anything to do with what we do. If you wanna find out how they do it, the financial stuff in the background, be be my guest. It doesn't matter to somebody getting free. And that's all I care about. I I wanna keep it as simple as possible without all those complications that almost inevitably lead to a dead end. Yes, Paul?
[01:27:17] Unknown:
With respect to the financial back end, if the if they're treating the birth certificate as a warehouse receipt with a CUSIP number on it or a CUSIP number associated with a Social Security number that is associated with that birth certificate, it is a financial instrument.
[01:27:37] Unknown:
That's why it's locked in a safe under armed guard. Well, it's a wear well, god, it's a warehouse receipt. It represents a good. Of course, it's got financial viability.
[01:27:47] Unknown:
Right. So it's a financial instrument.
[01:27:50] Unknown:
So I don't know, George. Don't put much credence in that myself personally. If you wanna delve into that stuff,
[01:27:56] Unknown:
be my guest. Sure. Yeah. And I'll, yeah, I'll, I'll let you know. I'm gonna definitely report. I wouldn't do tell anybody about anything unless I did it myself. So that's why I was trying to do, like, the latest thing I did was challenge the jurisdiction of the assessor. And then I'm gonna be, sending in the kids' birth certificates to get them authenticated, and and then I'll put them all into the county. So I will let people know what their implications are. Sure. Definitely, Verizon has not shut off my phone. First, when I send in my bill, they didn't shut off my phone yet. So we'll see. I can still talk to you. Alright. Good deal. Yeah.
[01:28:31] Unknown:
Alright. I yield. Yep. Thank you, George. Anybody else got comments there on on anything George said? I just don't put much credence in all that stuff because it doesn't really have anything to do with jurisdiction. K? I mean, nothing. So, yes, Samuel, is that you?
[01:28:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I I sent yesterday, I sent you a video on, why the Jews aren't the chosen people. That would be a great one to send to your lunch buddies.
[01:28:59] Unknown:
No. I'm not I'm not they won't watch it. These people are totally close minded. I told you about the guy yesterday. He's got these foot and leg problems. He has to go back to The States to get prescriptions all all the time and stuff. And, so I brought the wand one day, and I laid it out there for told everybody at lunch is this. You might wanna try it. So here he's got these problems. He goes over there for two minutes, not anymore, runs it over his his foot and legs and said it doesn't work and went home. That's kind of closed minded people I'm dealing with.
[01:29:35] Unknown:
Judge judge Napolitano also did an interview with, Ryan Dawson on, Epstein and that whole thing. Pretty good interview. And, basically, Dawson, who's done a lot of research, she said there really isn't a list, so they got plausible deniability there. He says, but when there's hundreds of millions of dollars of lawsuits that been been paying out in court cases, he says, you can make a list like I did where you have all these people testify flying to exactly what happened under Epstein and those people.
[01:30:11] Unknown:
Well, Alan Dershowitz, who was party to some of those lawsuits with Jizel and the gal that committed suicide, says there is a list. I'm under seal. I can't talk about it, but there is a list. And I can tell you I know who's on it, and I can tell you why they're withholding it. That's Alan Dershowitz
[01:30:32] Unknown:
k. For whatever that's worth. Well, Dawson said that the Brother? Dawson Dawson said they wouldn't have put a list up because that would be moronic. He says, but with all the court testimony, he says, you can make a list of just like I did of all the people who claimed to be molested, etcetera, and who have been killed. And he he he says that's a list, but it's not the one that they're talking about. He says there's the black book, but you can't associate everybody there as being suspect. But from court testimony, he says there's plenty of people that are implicated.
[01:31:07] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he's probably right. Yes, Julie. I heard you. Yes, Julie.
[01:31:12] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to just elaborate on what Samuel was saying right now. There is a, video today from, again, from Benjamin Fulford. I mean, I know he's controversial. Nobody really knows where how he knows all this stuff, but he is saying that Gislaine Maxwell testified that, Trump is on video, torturing children at Epstein Island. Don't have any proof of that, but I think what people are gonna find out if they release this is that this is just so global. Like, there are just so many you'd have to send everybody in Congress to Gitmo and many world leaders, and that's why they're not gonna ever release this. I I don't know. It would it would collapse the whole world system. Everybody's in on it. MVI six,
[01:32:00] Unknown:
Mossad. See I mean, I heard the girl you heard that girl you heard that girl, interviewed the other day on
[01:32:07] Unknown:
Virginia Virginia Giuffre.
[01:32:09] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. The one that was just interviewed from Africa the other day on Owen sitting in for Alex in the fourth segment. And she said he told me he went the whole story. She told the whole story. She said he told me he was CIA. She She repeated it more than once. Okay?
[01:32:25] Unknown:
And she said, scared to death and scared to go out. Giuffre. And that's what that's what Virginia Giuffre said too. But, apparently, it's MI six. It's CIA. It's FBI, it's all of the intelligence agencies who are involved in all of this child sex trafficking and and blackmail and videotaping of horrendous things against children.
[01:32:46] Unknown:
Alright. Well, it's the Jews that this is one of their favorite things. Hold on. The Jews, one of their favorite things is blackmail. That's one they they do it all the time. Okay? It's a cheap way to get somebody totally compromised. Joe, was that you trying to say something?
[01:33:02] Unknown:
That was May. Heard on the news early this morning that Thomas Massey is pursuing some kind of procedural action to bring all of this to the congress and and have hearings. And, oh, speaker of the house helped me.
[01:33:30] Unknown:
Johnson. Mike Johnson?
[01:33:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. He, he's getting a lot of heat on this, and he is supposedly, caving and leaning toward congressional hearings. Well, I John, I just That that's just mainstream media.
[01:33:52] Unknown:
Maxwell wants to wants to testify in front of Congress. Just lame, evidently. Yeah. Is and that is not going away. Trump is gonna try and defer it by naming a special counsel, which means three years of three years of investigation or whatever. So we'll see. It's good. But it's gotten real out of Roger. It's gotten real out of hand, and and, it's great. It's hell hell of an interesting deal. Yes, Julie?
[01:34:20] Unknown:
Yes. So just to, just to elaborate on what, is it Joe who just spoke? Yes. It, Thomas Massey has introduced a discharge petition to force a vote in the US House of Representatives on releasing the complete file.
[01:34:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Unfortunately, Congress has all been to the Wailing Wall.
[01:34:40] Unknown:
Yeah. And a complete release is what have they taken out already? How have they scrubbed? They've have the important people been scrubbed? Trump's got a very legitimate point. A lot of people could be tainted with this that aren't guilty. Okay? That's legitimate. Alright? So I I don't know where it's gonna go, but, boy, the longer it goes and the bigger it gets, the better off we are, the more the Jews are talked about and discussed, which they can't stand. And the more Harrison Smith spent over thirty minutes on this morning's, second hour there on Israel.
At what they're doing to pass they they murdered, a couple of adults and six children at a place to get water yesterday and, with a missile. And they said, oh, well, our calibration was off. It would it it fell short. You know, all the usual stuff. They're fixing to build another concentration camp down there on where Rafa is. It ev looks like they're gonna try and get the Palestinians and and move them and relocate them up somewhere into Syria. Now they've got control of Syria. So it's just more and more and more, they just keep killing people. The world hates Netanyahu. He's probably the most hated leader in the world today, Netanyahu.
And the more they do it, the more they're gonna hate them. So, the more they prove who they are. Yes, ma'am. Yes, Julie.
[01:36:09] Unknown:
Yeah. It just came out that president Trump just doubled down calling Epstein files a hoax hoax cooked up by Democrats and corrupt intel officials. And now he, and and the attorney somebody asked him what evidence have you seen of that? And he said that, I it's not the attorney general. I know it's a hoax, and he's now tying it into the Steele dossier trying to put it trying to sweep it under the carpet. And, anyway, he says it's a hoax. So Well, of course, that's bull. That's that's pretty much in this.
[01:36:43] Unknown:
Everybody knows that's pretty much total bullshit, and I hate seeing resort to that. He's totally destroying his base here, folks. Yes. Samuel. Samuel and John, I think.
[01:36:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Everybody needs to see that that video, why they are not the chosen people. It's a hour and twenty three minutes, but it's broken into short segments. You can watch them at your leisure. And I'm telling you, you could send any one of those segments to keep target people that have this this Zionist idea and all this other crap that these people have been selling for centuries.
[01:37:20] Unknown:
They won't watch it. They're closed minded. You cannot change their mind is my experience. They are the chosen people, but chosen by which god is the question and for what? That's how you get access to that, Roger. Okay. Good. Well, I watched part of it last night, and I thought, well, I pretty well know everything he's going over. But, if I have the chance, I'll watch more of it, Samuel. I've got it up there dialed up. It's pretty comprehensive
[01:37:49] Unknown:
because he gets into every detail that these people have been using against us and breaks it down and destroys it. Good. Well, good for him. More people need to be doing that.
[01:38:01] Unknown:
They're exposing themselves, actually. So, you know, my old saying, give a monkey enough rope, and he'll hang himself every time. Even these monkeys will do that. Joan?
[01:38:14] Unknown:
Not sure how long ago, but not too long ago, Elon Musk said Trump is on the list Yeah. On Epstein. Right. Right. That was in the middle of his of his feud. So that's right. He did say that.
[01:38:29] Unknown:
So, I I don't believe Trump's that kind of guy, but many of you do. So whatever. So who else has got something to bring forward here on a controversial Patriot birthday? Hey, Shane. You wanna wish me happy birthday? Hey.
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I apologize.
[01:38:49] Unknown:
That's why I called. To wish you a happy birthday. Well, okay. You know how they say that in Spanish? You know how they say that in Spanish, Shane?
[01:38:57] Unknown:
I did once upon a time, but I forgot.
[01:39:00] Unknown:
Feliz. Happy completed years. So there you go. There's there's your Spanish lesson for the day. Well, thank you, Shane, for your belated wishes. I'll have a smile on my face today all day long because of that. So what else, Shane? What else what's going on on out there in San Jose? Well, I really wanna put this book into everyone everyone's hands. We're gonna try and get it up there. Some kind of fun. Are you gonna buy a copy? Are you gonna buy a copy for everybody or what?
[01:39:39] Unknown:
Maybe two. What I'm doing now is I found out I found out that, the publishing company I found out was in Canada, Ontario, Canada.
[01:39:52] Unknown:
So I'm not sure where you wanna go with that. I I'm not either. Paul and these guys are a little more proficient at this than me or looking into it. Paul, should that make any difference as the printer's in Canada?
[01:40:05] Unknown:
No. It shouldn't.
[01:40:07] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Good enough. Well, thank you, Shane. Alright. We're gonna try and follow-up on it. I want the book out there too. Okay. So thank you for reminding us and putting a little little bunsen burner under our rear end.
[01:40:24] Unknown:
Thanks. I want this in everyone's hands.
[01:40:26] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we do too, Shane. Hopefully, they'll read it. You know, it's unfortunate. The, the the the survey that came out within the last year, 53% of the people in the country can't read above a third grade level, and twenty one percent in the country are totally illiterate. So probably everyone might not be a good beneficiary.
[01:40:50] Unknown:
Well, it'll be a a good try.
[01:40:53] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, I'll buy that. Yeah. So, you know, Shane how Shane and I, he used to be a listener years ago. And at first, I said
[01:41:04] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:41:06] Unknown:
I said, what did I tell you? I said, if anybody can't afford a book, send me a sob story, and I'll send you one. And Shane sent me this big sob story, and I sent him a book. And, all these years later, here he is. So thank you, Shane. Even though I'm pretty sure you could've I'm pretty sure you could've afforded one back then, but I didn't test you on that.
[01:41:37] Unknown:
Okay. Remember?
[01:41:39] Unknown:
Code code of federal regulations?
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Yeah. I'm not sure.
[01:41:45] Unknown:
Ego Geo No. GFR. That's Truth Frequency Radio. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I used to listen to Shane when he will call Jim Ram
[01:41:55] Unknown:
over there on Truth Frequency. Okay. There you go. Shane. I see. And, Chris Ego over there that ran that place.
[01:42:05] Unknown:
Yep. Yep.
[01:42:08] Unknown:
Yep. So are they still on the air, Dave? I guess they are.
[01:42:15] Unknown:
You know, as far as I know, Roger, I don't think I I can't They don't there's no call and listen line anymore, so I don't go looking for them. I don't do computers, and I can't everybody that I used to listen to is gone. The last guy was Jim Ram, and, he he he left too because I don't know why. I can't remember. We talked about it, but he couldn't get ahold of Chris anymore. And, I don't know what the hell happened to Chris. You know, his his wife had a lot of health problems. Bitch. And, they were they were in the medical mafia, and she had surgeries and all kinds of stuff. And Sheree, They, I don't know what happened to them.
Well But, I I used to love listening to Jamatria effect over there every Wednesday night at nine to midnight. And, man, I learned so much from that. And he he there was, like, in the last days that he was there. I'd you'd you'd call the the listen line, and sometimes he'd be on it and sometimes he wouldn't. He said his his board didn't work anymore, and, finally, he just gave up. And, he just does, YouTube now and, that, Patreon or something like that. I guess. Yeah. That
[01:43:45] Unknown:
I know He he was a programmer guy, and he really that was a nice system to work on, because for one thing, when the callers called in, he had it tied to ID, and he'd give you the ID. So I'm sitting there. I was after the election where Trump won the first time. Brent was on on a Friday. Somebody called, and I noticed the ID. It was a June Greenberg or something. And so the guy comes in, and he's going, well, don't you think it'd really be nice to have a female president? And he was trying to lead us into something. And I I said, sir, is this your cell phone?
And right then, he knew he'd been busted. See? And, he ended up hanging hanging up, but he was gonna try and call in, cause trouble. Another one of these Jew baskets. You know? So, anyway, yep. That was a nice feature on that on that system was having that caller ID.
[01:44:46] Unknown:
Right.
[01:44:47] Unknown:
So, anyway, don't miss him, mister Ego. You can go on. It doesn't sound like he's as enthusiastic about TFR as he used to be. Let's put it that way. K?
[01:44:59] Unknown:
So Yeah. I'm not sure what happened. I think they're having health problems, both of them, and, they just disappeared. It it's just so weird because, the the t the, truth frequency guy, Zach Hubbard, he he said he tried to contact Chris dozens and dozens and dozens of times, and he got dead air. And, Jim said the same thing.
[01:45:25] Unknown:
Well, okay.
[01:45:27] Unknown:
So they just fell off the face of the earth, man. It's weird. Anyway, happy
[01:45:32] Unknown:
born on day, Roger. Thank you. Happy. Another one bites the dust. Another one of my ex wives goes down there. Almost all of them, but our BN have gone down.
[01:45:45] Unknown:
Hey. They're struggling right now, man. They are they're stumping for money, hard money right now, all last week. Uh-huh. And, every day, they're all, you know,
[01:45:57] Unknown:
they got some big bills coming up, and they need, like, $3 is what they're saying. I, I you know, again, thank god for what we've got here. We don't have to worry about that. So, those people need to switch platforms. Well, you'd think so. You'd know Tom knows about this. You'd think he'd try and implement it over there, cut some of that overhead. But, anyway, we'll see where it goes. I wish him the best, of course. So, who else has got something to add to the conversation here today? We got about 15. This is Chris from California. Hey, Chris. Here you go. You always come in at the tail end of the show. How are you doing?
[01:46:35] Unknown:
Well, I wanna hear what's going on first. Sure, man. What's what's the title of the book, that you're talking about? Which which book? It is be it's being printed from California. Shane brought it up.
[01:46:51] Unknown:
Oh, my book. The title is From Sovereigns, sir, Government by the Treachery and Deception of Words.
[01:47:01] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Is is there a shortage of the books?
[01:47:04] Unknown:
Well, it's not up anywhere to be bought hard copy at this point because the problems I had with the previous publisher. And, I just threw my hands up and said f it, you know, and made the ebook available to everybody. Hopefully, we'll have the printed copy, back up and available here sometime shortly, Chris.
[01:47:27] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. And, what you mentioned about, what caused your awakening having something to do with, Bill Clinton?
[01:47:37] Unknown:
Well, it was on the night of his first acceptance speech that I watched a tape by a guy named Al Carter out of Utah. Do you remember him? He was around about thirty something years ago. Well, he was just a PA wide triad. He was proffering, he'd stolen, all of Phil Marsh's stuff and was doing a presentation to an audience. That's the tape that I saw. Were you familiar with Phil Marsh, Chris?
[01:48:06] Unknown:
Yes. Okay.
[01:48:08] Unknown:
He's right. It was thirty three years ago. So that's what woke me up. And, all these years later, it's never let go.
[01:48:22] Unknown:
And then suggestion.
[01:48:25] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[01:48:26] Unknown:
They, you ever think of doing an audiobook for us ding a lings that don't read? And I would suggest Brent Bachman as the,
[01:48:38] Unknown:
the orator of that. I've had I've had would be. I had it suggested a a number of times. I don't have the eyesight to do it right now. But, yeah, it's been suggested. Okay? Never gone much further than that. I would I wasn't gonna do it, and, nobody else has done this kind of technical stuff, you know, a lot of it in the back part. But, anyway, it's been suggested before. We've never moved on it. Okay?
[01:49:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Brent Bachman, start reading a book and what tape recorder, man?
[01:49:16] Unknown:
Be it be it. Hey. I'm sure AI could do it in a flash in Brent's voice.
[01:49:21] Unknown:
Probably could. Probably could. I don't have anybody to help me do all that stuff. I don't have a frigging staff here. I can't do it. So it doesn't go anywhere. Okay. So, who else has got something got about, about ten minutes left. Nobody else got anything. I think we got a staff, Roger,
[01:49:47] Unknown:
and it's not a stick.
[01:49:50] Unknown:
Well, let's put it this way right now Up to lately, I haven't had. And, look, I've been fighting this for many years. I'm I'm only gonna do so much.
[01:50:03] Unknown:
K? I know. Alright. Right. We gotta take it on ourselves if that's gonna happen.
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's probably true. So, who else, who else has got something this morning? Roger. Roger. Yes, sir. I think that's Sketch, isn't it?
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Yes. This is Sketch. And, happy remembrance day. Thank you. So there was there was some talk about, the, birth certificate as warehouse receipt, and there was talk about, bond bonds related to that, I think. And I was wondering where does the true ownership of The US citizens rest?
[01:50:42] Unknown:
Well, it would rest in the, International Monetary Fund, I would think.
[01:50:49] Unknown:
So that is where okay. So we we don't know actually because when you say there are some bonds, we don't know who owns those bonds, but you're saying it's in the IMF. Well, I don't know because they sell them. I don't have any idea who owns them. Right. Well, I just wanted to point one thing out that, during the feudal system, they knew who their owners were. And during slavery, the slaves knew who their owners were, but I guess the citizens really can't find out.
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Well, your direct owners are. The direct owners of the federal government under the International Monetary Fund. The secretary of the treasury is in charge of all that sketch. It says in title 28 there, the secretary of the treasury is the governor of the fund. That is the International Monetary Fund. So, technically, they probably own you, but they've leased you out, And they've sold your services to whoever the bond owner, the buyer of the bond is. So even when the bond's paid off, they they they they don't own your labor anymore. It reverts back to The United States, I would imagine.
[01:52:00] Unknown:
I gotcha. So, basically, they're the agents,
[01:52:04] Unknown:
for those bonds. Yeah. That's Okay. They're really just leasing those bonds.
[01:52:10] Unknown:
Okay. That's probably true. You know?
[01:52:14] Unknown:
Roger.
[01:52:15] Unknown:
How are you? Okay. Thank you, Sketch. Yes. Who had Roger there?
[01:52:20] Unknown:
Hello, Samuel. I was having the same feeling as Dave that, AI probably is capable. So I looked it up, and there's a lot of sources where you can take go from text to audiobook through AI. So, it'd be something with a better technical background to look into. Maybe Paul or somebody could take a look at some point. I just looked it up on Brave, their, AI. And there's a whole bunch of stuff there listing sources.
[01:52:51] Unknown:
Alright. Alrighty. So, who else? If you send me a book. Send me a book. No. Buy one, Shane. Oh, of course. I'll let you know when's available.
[01:53:10] Unknown:
And now Mark was saying just use the one he's got.
[01:53:13] Unknown:
I don't think it's the one Mark was saying that he wants to also see if we can get on Amazon and that when you do, there's just a way on Amazon you can say you can take down the price to barely above the printing for few days or a week or whatever. Anyway, that may be an option too. I've never put the book on Amazon. Other people have. K? So for whatever that's worth.
[01:53:40] Unknown:
Roger? Yes, Dave. I I've heard a lot of authors on different radio shows say how they get ripped off from Amazon.
[01:53:48] Unknown:
I know. That's why I don't I've never put it over there, Dave.
[01:53:52] Unknown:
Yeah. And they pay they don't pay them. You know, Rick doctor Richard Allen Miller, docram.com. You guys look that guy up. He's incredible. He's written dozens of books, and he was he thought he was selling them on Amazon. Amazon was selling them, but they didn't pay him anything for him. There you go. You know? And it's print on demand. And he that that guy got a huge following, and he never got a penny.
[01:54:19] Unknown:
Well, that's why I've had had no desire to feed Jeff Bezos quite frankly. Other people stole my book early on. They stole a copy and put it over there and, on through Amazon, sold about 60 something copies. And, before I caught them and got that stopped real quick.
[01:54:42] Unknown:
Comment.
[01:54:44] Unknown:
Hello, Joe.
[01:54:47] Unknown:
Just to make you feel good, Roger, today is the anniversary also of Amazon selling its first book. Oh, really? Okay. Well, good for Amazon. Yeah. Hate I hate to burst your bubble, but
[01:55:02] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I'm sure they've screwed a whole lot of people.
[01:55:06] Unknown:
So, We know that.
[01:55:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Well, we're we're edging slowly towards the end of the program here. So if you had a question or a comment, now is your time because I won't be hanging around after the show today because I've got this interview in the afternoon. So, anybody else got something this morning? Nobody? Well, we'll see how the news develops today. It should be quite interesting. And, that's what we got. So was that someone clearing their voice there to say something?
[01:55:43] Unknown:
No. That Yeah. That was just me. I was thinking about letting you know we only got about six minutes of the show left. So Alright. Well, yeah, I know. You'll be proceeding with your day directly.
[01:55:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Pretty quick. Roger, did you hear Greg Gregory Mannerino? What do you think of what he he says the value you only have 4% left of the value of the dollar.
[01:56:09] Unknown:
I think it's I think it's less than that. I think that's optimistic. So anything else? You got any questions about life on Uranus or anything? Waheed?
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Waheed, look at it this way.
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He said Gold Gold.
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Said that they get the political establishment is gonna steal the 2% and leave us with the other 2%.
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Well, alright.
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Look at it this way. Gold used to be 300 an ounce. Actually, it was 250 an ounce. Yeah. Now it's 1. 3,400. Yeah. Okay? So what happened? Did gold actually get more expensive, or did the dollar lose value?
[01:56:59] Unknown:
The dollar lost value. That's how how much value the dollar's lost in the last twenty years is from under 300 to over 3,000. Mhmm. So if you're wondering about inflation, there it is.
[01:57:15] Unknown:
It's fixing to get worse if they keep printing money hand over fist just to buy junk bonds that nobody else wants.
[01:57:22] Unknown:
It's ridiculous what we're going into, and, hopefully I don't know that we'll hopefully, Trump's tariff thing will it has the ability to straighten things out. We'll see if it does or not. Don't know. Don't know. But I do know this. We're right at the end of the show. It's Wednesday, the sixteenth. My Patriot birthday rolls around once a year. And, we have a, interview this afternoon with Kevin Hoyt. Murr was real good. Sent me his Rumble page. I haven't had a chance to listen to it. I'll get a taste of his style here before we meet later this afternoon. But another good interview in the can. Evidently, the guy's got a pretty pretty big audience or access to one, so we will see how it goes.
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And that's Would you be broadcasting
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that here on FCC?
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No. We will not. No. No. I won't.
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Oh, okay. That the,
[01:58:23] Unknown:
the video that Samuel was talking about, why the Jews are not God's chosen people, that is on YouTube. It is on the Dance of Life podcast with Tudor, t u d o r, Alexander. It's an hour twenty three minutes thirty five seconds.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
I'm surprised they've still let it on YouTube. Surprised it hasn't been banned.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
I don't know. But if they do ban it, I already have it downloaded, so who cares?
[01:58:52] Unknown:
There you go. Tada. So, well, kids, otherwise, we'll be back tomorrow. I'm sure sorry. Mark had had to have been emergency with his folks. I hope there's nothing too serious. But that's, that's the quagmire he's in lately, and I don't know if you've ever had to take care of an elderly parent or an elderly person, but it's quite demanding, k, on top of everything else he's involved in. So hope it wasn't anything serious today, Mark. And I I I'd love to see him be able to get a handle on that situation, and I know he's working towards that. So, hopefully, he'll get those things accomplished and get some of that off his back. It's a terrible burden. I mean, it's something that all of us should relish doing, but it's hard work.
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Mhmm.
[01:59:46] Unknown:
It's hard work, and it's very demanding. And, like you said, even his his mom was getting so bad, she can't even cook anymore. So he's having to do all the cooking and everything else, and I think he's not too far from maybe getting them in some sort of a home. So, close to their house. So we'll see. Anyway, I hope you got your questions answered. Nice to hear from Rex and Mike and some of the folks that chimed in today. Of course, we'll be back manana. Good lord willing, and the Creek Indians don't rise. And we'll see what's worth covering then. Maybe we'll have some new students.
Our growth is, don't forget, up to a lot of you, you've gotta you gotta go back and start talking to people about it. Okay? Just bring it up. Hey. Are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? What do you mean? How would you like me to show you how to get out of the tax system? That's probably a good opening question. There's a number of other ones. But, it's, it's up to us to grow this thing. And hopefully, I'll pry it this week. I'm gonna try and get that email off to Chase and, hopefully, Harrison with our information. They keep saying they'd like to partake of something like that could get them out of the tax system and stuff. So maybe we'll find a marriage there. Won't know till we try. You guys, I'm gonna ask for your help on this to follow-up with emails.
So, anyway, we'll talk more about it tomorrow, see what comes up between now and then. Paul, I'll see you later this afternoon, and, we'll, look forward to this conversation with Kevin. So see y'all tomorrow.
[02:01:25] Unknown:
Open your open your portable open your portable at, I don't know, about 02:30 or so. I will. Okay. I will. And it's 04:00 my time, 03:00 your time.
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Uh-huh. Okay. Groovy groovy. Alright. Anybody got anything else for me? I gotta go see a man about a horse. I will, I will see y'all manana.
[02:01:51] Unknown:
Have a great Roger, in that in that in that piece, why the Jews aren't the chosen people, there's a long clip of that woman saying, it's an old trick. We've been using it forever.
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She goes on and on. Got that in there? Okay. You put it in there? Good. Yeah.
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It's in there too. It's a a long version of it, though. Okay. Good
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enough. I'll, see y'all you brought Mike in in yeah. You you got enough of what we need on there, Paul. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Ciao.
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And nachos.
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See you later. Yeehaw.
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For anybody in memory lane, Dennis,
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over a decade ago, used to be a grand slam.
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Two double and triple scrambled eggs, French toast, sausage, bacon. For $1.99, $2.99. I haven't been there for about a decade. But now it's, like, $13.14, $15. It's still cheap. And the dollar has not lost value.
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Talk about funding your own slavery.
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And they don't call it a grand slam anymore. It's called a bunt.
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You're kidding.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Hope so.
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It's a grand slam on the dollar.
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Talk about funding your own slavery. You buy a grand slam, and you wind up a slave to a porcelain throne.
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Last time I was at Danny's, the grand slam was no longer, and that was about a month ago.
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Oh. Yeah. They hit it right out of the park forever. Never to be retrieved. Well, they they sell now everything individually, so they're able to charge more.
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And most Well, when the egg were really high, they were charging you extra, like, 50¢ an egg.
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By the way, those eggs are not egg. They're powder,
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and they and they make it scrambles. You're not even eating you're eating a chemical.
[02:04:25] Unknown:
And not all. I How do you get over easy eggs, some powder?
[02:04:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't get that is precisely why I don't get them scrambled. And if I do get them scrambled, I want them lightly scrambled so I can see the white and the yolk or just give them to me, basted in sunny side up.
[02:04:48] Unknown:
We finally got a Denny's over here, and I actually asked her. I said, can I get actual real eggs? She goes, oh, I can give you real eggs. So she she obviously got the request before. So
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Uh-huh.
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Cool.
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Well, are we gonna continue talking, or am I gonna take the stream down?
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You're getting eggs by operation of law.
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Carl,
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did you know
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that Denny's That's like Oregonian's. Is not
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is not a franchise. They are that is a privately held corporation.
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Mhmm.
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There's no franchises on it.
[02:05:39] Unknown:
And our team is, I believe, by law too. Right? They just keep finding what are going on because
[02:05:46] Unknown:
Paul, could you please post the link to the the interview today? I I came in late.
[02:05:55] Unknown:
That it's a private interview. It's going to be recorded and broadcast later. There there won't be any public presentation today.
[02:06:07] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:06:09] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[02:06:15] Unknown:
I just had I'm doing pretty good. I just had a thought. I'm looking for a dehumidifier. Timo's got a pretty cheap one, but I'll have to wait until next month to get it. I'm thinking, I'm thinking what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna gonna use a dehumidifier. It'll make my house more comfortable. I'll be able to reclaim that water. I'll run it through my Berkey filter, and I'll actually have, distilled water. You know what I mean?
[02:06:50] Unknown:
How about Facebook? How about Facebook marketplace? Facebook marketplace?
[02:06:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Facebook Marketplace. Those guys are nuts. There isn't anything within 200 miles of me, and they want between a 100 and $200. I can get one for $60 from Timu. It'll be here in four days. So Facebook Marketplace can, can stick it up their marketplace. Yeah. $61.88
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for a they got?
[02:07:18] Unknown:
$61.88 for a 45 point a pint dehumidifier. Graded 22 pints a day. That's enough.
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Yeah.
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I'm not talking craziness here.
[02:07:33] Unknown:
Where it happened to Craigslist?
[02:07:37] Unknown:
Yeah. But but the nearest, Craigslist hub is Utica Utica, Rome, and that's, between eighteen and thirty five miles away. I really don't have the car to actually go hunting around looking for stuff. So, I'm thinking I'm gonna have to, figure out a way to actually have it delivered. But, anyway, I gotta wait until next month to, pull the trigger anyway, so it's not a big deal. At least at least I got a good idea of where to go to get one. Yeah. I was thinking I might be able to find one for, like, $25 within five miles. I mean, no. That ain't happening. Not a chance.
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Do you have a a thrift store, like a starvation army or anything near you? Yeah. I have one. I was there a week ago. They didn't have anything. Okay.
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And they're they're usually pretty proud. Order. Yeah. They're they're usually pretty proud of their appliances anyway. Not such a great deal.
[02:08:59] Unknown:
Oh, so you're saying being proud, they charge more than they should. Yes. Uh-huh. I get it.
[02:09:09] Unknown:
Yep. I I mean, you can get deals on some things, you know, like a a pan lid for a quarter or a frying pan for 75¢ or a saucepan for a buck. But anything that's, anything that's equipment, you know, like, waffle iron, coffee maker, iron, humidifier, dehumidifier, anything like that, they're very proud of them.
[02:09:36] Unknown:
Very.
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Well, I did that dehumidifier with the Berkey, for a couple years, and, I put a silver dollar in top and bottom. And, that was some of the best water we ever drank.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I have, I have, point nine nine nine copper screen. Somebody's, messing with bags or or opening licorice or something like that.
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Is that you, George? That was me. Wow. You can hear that? It ain't pain. You can hear that. I'll be myself. It's George. Thank you. I was just ripping I was ripping up the names on, on envelopes, and I was contemplating on how the name, is, is basically the if you look at the back to the birth certificate, you basically are just telling them back the information that they gave you on the birth certificate when you're dealing with the separation between who you are as flesh and blood and who that piece of paper is. But sorry. I I digress. Let's go back to talking about the sacred things.
[02:10:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The, that's what I intended to do with, dehumidifiers, just run the water through my Berkey, and my Berkey is, three stage. It has a Brita filter on the top. It has, Berkey carbon filter in the middle and a fluoride filter on the bottom, and I have, I have, magnets between stages two and three to, to draw any, ferrous metals, to the magnet to sequester them. I have, silver wire, four nine fine in the second stage, and, three nine fine copper screen in the bottom stage. So I've got the silver, the copper, and, the filtered.
[02:11:45] Unknown:
That ought to work. Damn, dude. That's a hell of a setup. Nice.
[02:11:51] Unknown:
Yeah. It's all five gallon buckets. Cost me a $160 including filters. Not bad. It's a food grade buckets. Fluoride filters in the bottom. But but is it did that come from Berkey, or did you buy that separate? Or Came from Berkey. All the filters and stuff I I have, I came from Berkey.
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Okay. Thanks.
[02:12:21] Unknown:
And every single every single, well, not my cat anymore. My cat drinks tap water, but, everything I drink is certainly filtered. My cat just goes through too much. Upgrade those filters, Paul.
[02:12:38] Unknown:
Think about the Alexa Pro. It does not need to be, primed. Those filters do not need priming, and I found it very difficult priming those Berkey filters with that tiny little hole.
[02:12:54] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
Yeah. So, anyway and then I I think the price. So those, Alexa peers, they they the prices are comparable, if not cheaper, at infowars.store or whatever it is. Infowarsstore.com.
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I was, I was thinking about using, I was thinking about using, James McKinney Water Science, but I don't like the way, his filters are used. They filter in from the inside and flow to the outside. Mhmm. And I don't like that.
[02:13:45] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:13:48] Unknown:
And I think aren't the filters in the the the clean water?
[02:13:56] Unknown:
No. No. The filters are in the second stage on the Berkey.
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Okay. No. No. I mean, on on McKinney's.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. They would be in the clean water. Yeah. They sit
[02:14:11] Unknown:
yeah. I I did I thought that was pretty weird too, and, I didn't like the, you know, the way the Berkey, the big Berkey set up. Those, arsenic filters are in the clean water as well. And I never I never hooked them up. I started using the dehumidifier right away, and I didn't use those. I still have them sitting in the drawer.
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Right.
[02:14:36] Unknown:
Well because I just think there'd be an arsenic in the air. Well well, here's what fluoride filter in the Berkey
[02:14:43] Unknown:
is in the clean water. Right? Yeah. Yeah. The fluoride filter is because the carbon filter is on top and the fluoride filter is on the bottom. But,
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of each carb of each carbon filter. Right. Not carbon filter. They're, ceramic.
[02:15:02] Unknown:
Right. Well, if you leave something in water, water will I mean, contaminants will ionically transfer from one side of the filter to the other. So, I don't really want anything in the clean water. I want it to drip into, into a reservoir and just leave it there. But I, I usually I usually keep, my bottom reservoir at four gallons or less, and the fluoride filters hang above that level. So it's not a big deal.
[02:15:47] Unknown:
Yeah. See, I got the big Berkey with the stainless steel tanks, and they it yeah. I'm not sure how much, I it just seemed like, an oxymoron to let that water fill up. I never even used them right. I just I actually bought when I see, Alex Jones used to have a guy on that was selling water generators, and I'm like, water generator? That's a freaking dehumidifier. I got one in my basement. So I started using I ordered a Berkey right away, and and I'm like, yeah. This is the way to go. It was awesome. Now we got we're on a well with, RO, and we don't do that anymore. But I do have a I still have a dehumidifier, and the Berkey's in a box.
[02:16:36] Unknown:
Yeah. You kinda you gotta watch out. Amazon's got, Alexa Pure Pro Gravity, compatible filter systems, $39.95 or $39.99 for two of them. No. That ain't legit. The only free ride is the rotation of the earth, and the flat earth society screwed that up. So, well, yeah, and it says frequently returned item. So you gotta watch out where you get your filters from for sure. Yeah. The Virigo Pro filter replacement is $42.99 each. So
[02:17:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I got a filter plus a, iTero care wand, and I got a glass, container. So, yeah, I do that too.
[02:17:42] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Well, I wanna do that. I mean, I don't wanna have to buy distilled water. And I figure if you take it out of the air if you keep your dehumidifier clean, that's the gig. If you keep it clean, you take the water out of the air and then filter it after that and treat it with, silver and copper, and there shouldn't be any problem drinking that. Should be just fine. That's my plan. I'm back in a minute, guys.
[02:18:39] Unknown:
May I say something to Dave in the dome, please?
[02:18:43] Unknown:
Go right ahead.
[02:18:45] Unknown:
Hey, Dave. You know, on last let's see. Was it Keno's Friday night with Gaddy? Can you hear me, Dave?
[02:19:02] Unknown:
I hear you. Oh, okay. I don't know what Dave.
[02:19:04] Unknown:
But I I I that's not Dave, though. Right? The voice sounds different.
[02:19:13] Unknown:
My name is Shane. Yeah. Hey. Yeehaw.
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But, I had a question for Dave because he's the only one who would know what I'm talking about. So I'll
[02:19:32] Unknown:
ask him
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later.
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Yes. Like, eighteen minutes after the hour.
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Right on. In my in my time zone. Right on. Is that is that your time and your time zone too, Shane?
[02:19:58] Unknown:
I have, 10:18, o o over here.
[02:20:02] Unknown:
Oh, 10:18. I'm 11:18. Hey, y'all. What does that 11:11 mean? I see that some people put, oh, 11:11. What's that about? I bet Dave in the thumb, he's numerology, maybe, kind of.
[02:20:26] Unknown:
You know, tarot tarot stuff?
[02:20:29] Unknown:
I don't know. I I just you know, eleven dot dot, you know, like, on a like, you know, when you're saying, like, 12:00 and the two dots, you put between the twelve and the two zeros, the two dots, vertical vertical. It's 11:11. I don't know. I don't know what it means. I I see it sometimes, like, people kind of like new age people or numerology people. Yeah. Like, that's something good or I think. I'm not sure. Never mind.
[02:21:13] Unknown:
Good thought.
[02:21:17] Unknown:
Joan, there's a book there's a ebook online. I can't remember where it's sold, but Zach Hubbard Zachary k Hubbard is the author, and I think it's called Letters and Numbers. And he teaches you all about gematria, how to do it, how to figure it out, and what all them numbers mean.
[02:21:44] Unknown:
Do you think that's do you think that's important and good to know? What are these numbers? What the numbers mean? I think it is. Okay. Hey, Dave. What I was gonna ask, can I ask about, kino's last Friday? Did you hear can I ask you a question right now, Dave?
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Yeah.
[02:22:05] Unknown:
Did you hear kino? I mean, Gaddy say that remember Stu Peters came up? And and and then I I I said, oh, what what are you saying about Stu Peter? I mean, yeah. You're calling
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And
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and Gaddy said, oh, he's bad. He You cut real. He said he said the USS Liberty are all those all those, what do you call sailors? All those sailors are are liars.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
That's what That's what Stu Peters said? Yeah.
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I was So
[02:22:47] Unknown:
yeah. I never heard that, and but I don't I mean, I believe Gaddy, if he heard that, but, and, you know, that that might have been before Stu Peters got the Jew bug because he now is I'd I'd like to hear somebody ask him about the USS Liberty today. Yeah. Okay. Because he's a totally different dude since he got that Jones. Somebody got a Jew, you know?
[02:23:17] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah.
[02:23:20] Unknown:
Hey, Jones. He don't say they are liars. It what happened is he wanna go to Norfolk and to the anniversary. And, like, he was talking about the youth. They censor him from going to Norfolk, and he was the one giving lies to them, you know, like, putting them in the air for people to know. And that's why he say they are liars because he never, thought bad about them. He was just helping them to get, the, you know, what happened in The US Liberty to the people, you know, because a lot of people don't know about that.
[02:23:58] Unknown:
Agori, are you saying that Stu Peters recently said the sailors on the USS Liberty are liars?
[02:24:08] Unknown:
Yeah. But know about what happened in the in the incident. If not, why they saying about him going to Norfolk.
[02:24:18] Unknown:
You know what I mean? No. I'm sorry. I don't. Sorry.
[02:24:22] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. He said they are liars because, they know they censor him to going, going to Norfolk in their anniversary. But he no say that they are liars in what happened to The US Liberty. You know what I mean? He don't say they are liars because they say that The US liberty, you know, never was hid. The, the, Israel never did nothing to that boat. No. He don't say that.
[02:24:52] Unknown:
Oh, he was calling the he was calling the Jews liars for saying it was an accident. Yeah. Uh-huh.
[02:25:00] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And because they don't let him go to Norfolk.
[02:25:06] Unknown:
Oh.
[02:25:09] Unknown:
I hear you.
[02:25:11] Unknown:
Thank you. Except for Gatti, last Friday night said to Peter said, I don't have to say it again, but I will. He said, well, I don't know. Maybe I'll talk to Gaddy more about it and see if he's got it mixed up, mixed around. Okay. Good. Thank you. Hey, Dave and the thumb. Dave?
[02:25:49] Unknown:
Hi, Joan. Where are you confirming?
[02:25:52] Unknown:
Do you have time for me to do you have time for me to ask you one more question?
[02:25:57] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:26:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. So so this neighbor of mine with the three year old boy that that got fully vaccinated, all his and, and he had seizures. Or, I mean, epileptic. I don't okay. I'm not even stressed. Where did they stop? You know when they started? Yeah. I have asked her I have I have asked her that in a text, and I I have not looked yet to see if she answered that question. But my question to you in the meantime is, if they did start app even if they started after or before, do you have any kind of from all your, you know, Youngevity or everything else you're involved in? Do you know if something good for seizures, if they if they even started before vaccination, or do or do you have something for if seizures started after vaccination?
[02:26:54] Unknown:
That boy needs to be on a ketogenic diet, high fat diet. Okay? Lots of eggs lots of eggs, beef, dairy, clean clean eggs, clean dairy, clean beef. You know, those are superfoods. They promote the the brain. And, you know, doc's got, something called a healthy brain and heart pack. And for a three year old child, that would probably last them four months or longer. You know, it all goes by body weight. So, and then, you know, and that that's got selenium. Selenium is a master mineral, and it's incredible for brain health. You know, all brain disorders are mostly a, a fat deficiency and a, selenium deficiency, but you can't just take selenium. You gotta take the other 89 cofactors that make it work.
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Okay. Great.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
So, yeah, there's there there is hope for this child. The parents have to be totally gluten free, and, they can definitely the body when you give the body the raw materials and the building blocks of life, the body does what it's supposed to do in most cases and especially in a three year old child. And you can't keep you know, all disease starts in the gut. Right? And it that the gut is the weakest link, and that's why the brain got affected. Now, you know, I somebody just walked in here, and I just got distracted. But, probiotics are very important for, you know, you know, the gut and the brain, and, and the the immune system, though, starts in the in the, bone marrow, and it's it's, it's collagen.
Collagen. Collagen. Collagen. And, you know, all our connective tissue is collagen, And, that you gotta strengthen that immune system. And, you know, that immune system is being attacked by, you know, by those vaccines. And, yeah, there's hope. So you gotta avoid those 12 bad foods, and, you know, eat eat from a ketogenic diet, and, you know, stop the ongoing damage. No you know, those vaccines are they don't help anybody, especially the children. And then the parents, you know, have to take care of those children and, you know, and they have no idea what they're doing. They just make you sicker. So the doctors are, mostly your worst enemies.
So Do But that's my own opinion.
[02:30:03] Unknown:
Thank thank you. And do you know, though, if if if the Really cool. Is what's the difference? If if the if the seizures started
[02:30:13] Unknown:
just Well, if you if if he was born with seizures Yeah. Then it's a birth defect. But the the ketogenic diet will help reduce that. And it it may you know, it it we don't know what the body's capable of, but most of the time, birth defects are not reversible. Okay? If it was if it was, you know, if it happened after and my guess is they came with those vaccines. And so then then those are definitely reversible, and they've they've got that child on drugs to prevent the seizures. But those those drugs, if you look at the side effects, they cause seizures.
[02:31:03] Unknown:
Yeah.
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And, you know, there's electrical current in our body and, you know, the it it and it the the nervous system grows out of the brain. The solid matter of the brain makes up 75% of brain weight, and it's it's almost a 100% cholesterol. The nervous system grows out of the brain down the, you know, spine out to all the far reaches of your body, and it's coated. The electrical it's like electrical wire, right, coming out of the brain, and it's coated with a myelin sheath. That's the insulation on it. And it's that sheath. Myelin is a 100% cholesterol.
So you gotta feed that body. Even though we make some cholesterol, we don't make enough. So you gotta feed that body, you know, high cholesterol foods to to ensure that the brain stays, you know, working properly and the nervous system works properly. And there's a there's a short in the circuitry somewhere that's what's causing those seizures. And normally, most of the time, it's that damn vaccine. Yeah. And it will probably go MMR. You know, three three and one. You go, we'll give you three for the price of one.
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So so so would it be if so, it would be good to get off of those, two epileptic or seizure drugs that she's on that she's on the little baby. The four three year old is on.
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They're not helping them. They're not helping the parents. And, yeah, if they're a nightmare, those things are a nightmare. And with the for the drugs and the vaccines that he keeps getting, you know, you gotta you gotta educate yourself. And, you know, our bodies don't have a deficiency of what's in those those vaccines, you know, to keep us from getting whatever they claim, they prevent. Most of the time, you get what they shoot you up with. You know? And the reason they're beating you up Yeah. Oh, yeah. We got a measles, vaccine so you don't get the measles, but most people that get the vaccine get the measles.
Yeah. And you said collagen collagen collagen. What's the collagen help? What how does that help? Collagen is is what your bone marrow is made out of. Oh. That's what the blood so all the blood platelets and blood cells all grow in your bone marrow, and the bone marrow's made out of collagen.
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Oh. Wow.
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So yeah. You feed the body collagen, and you feed the the immune system, and you feed the gut. You feed all your connective tissue. And think about what's connective tissue. Everything that's connected in your body is made out of connective tissue. Your skin is connective tissue. Your your, your all your organs are connective tissue. Your you know? So, yeah, you gotta you gotta support all those functions in your body, and it's and it's mostly 90 nutrients that do it. But then we got stuff like collagen that our secret sauce, as doc says, that, you know, you need those also. So
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gluten you said, is gluten just wheat?
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Is gluten just wheat? Bar no. Gluten is the protein in wheat, barley, and rye. And in oats, it's called gliadin, but it's the same identical protein with a different name, and they'll sell you oats all day long, gluten free oatmeal. And they've never had gluten in it. So they're lying to you when they say it's gluten free, like, oh, we did something. You can't remove the protein from the grain, and that's why you don't eat wheat, barley, rye, oats, corn, soy, or, buckwheat either. Mhmm. And yeah. If you go to that website, mytotalnutrition.com, you can see a good food, bad food list, the foods to avoid. There's videos you can watch about almost any health topic you can think of, and, they're really great. There's a lot and it's all everything from all those videos are mostly Wallach or things that were made because of Wallach.
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You said corn has gluten?
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No. Corn is genetically modified. Oh, yeah. And and and the corn pollen can travel up to 500 miles in twenty four hours. So any, you know, heirloom corn organic corn fields, if they're farther than 500 miles from a Monsanto or Syngenta field, you know, it it might be okay. But if it's within 500 miles of a of a, you know, roundup ready cornfield, don't don't, you know, turn around and run away from it. It's it's g GMO corn.
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Yeah. But is corn gluten?
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No. It is not. But it is on the bad food list because it's it's, it really has no food value. You know, it it could taste good with butter and salt, but butter and salt tastes good without corn. You know?
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Yeah.
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So No problem.
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Yeah. Thank you, Dave.
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You're welcome, Joan.
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Hi, Shane. Hi. Hey. I I was gonna suggest, HGH, human growth hormone.
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You know? You know, they changed that. Youngevity's, you're talking about? Oh, yeah. Complex. It's now called the HGH aminos, I think. Alright. They just changed the name. It's the same product. But, yeah, that's that's really great product for everybody. And, you know, you can really get ripped, using those aminos.
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Mark, do we give me aminos? And also,
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selenium. Yep. Selenium is very important.
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Yes. Yeah. I mentioned that selenium is a master mineral. Wait. You did your I thought you weren't supposed to have too much HGH
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that it, works. Actually not it's not actually HGH. It's the precursor to that. It's what this product makes your body, reproduce those stem cells that is the growth hormone in your body. It does. It isn't actually a growth hormone. While it would never give anybody any, any hormone, you know, supplements there, they just feed your body. So your body does what it's supposed to do, you know, make its own. Copy.
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Dave. Dave. Do you think it will be good for the three year old boy to take a Youngevity supplement, the minerals or the vitamin or any of it?
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Yeah. Absolutely. I would I would put them on a a, you know, a healthy brain and heart pack and some cherry mints. They taste they're awesome. The straight up minerals are they're pretty hard to take, but a child that age would probably take them. My grandson started chewing our essential fatty acid when he was, when he got teeth. And, he's still he's 12 now, and he still chews them. You ever chew fish oil capsules, Tim? Try that. He thinks it tastes like candy. Wow. I use it. It's called cherry? Still chewing. How's chewing? I swallowed them. When did you start swallowing them the other day? I swallow
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them now. Okay.
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Well, he used to chew them like gummy bears. He he just said he doesn't chew them anymore. But
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How do you spell it? Korean? How do you spell it?
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How do you spell what?
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The the chewable cherry, delicious, chewable fish oil that your
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Kyle was doing. It's our essential fatty acid, the EFAs. So in that healthy brain and heart pack, there's there's a bottle of ultimate EFAs, and there's a bottle of EFA plus, and you need them both. And, and then there's a bottle of selenium, and there's a canister of Beyond Tangy Tangerine and a canister or liquid bottle of, Beyond Osteo FX. He needs all of that stuff.
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And a three and a three year old okay. A three year old can take all that.
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Oh, absolutely. You just gotta break him down for his body weight.
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The price? Do you know?
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Oh, $1.01 I think a brain and heart pack is about $212, but that that would probably last a three year old with seizures maybe six months. Oh. Oh, man. How much he weighs?
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He just looked like a normal size three year old boy.
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So, what, forty, thirty, 40 pounds?
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Yeah. 40. Yeah.
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Yeah. Each vitamins for, is for 50 pound.
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Well, the scoop is for 50 pounds, but you can break that down, you know, by body weight to, you know Yeah. Five, ten, fifteen, twenty pound ranges. You know? Yeah. So if if one scoop is for 50 pounds, a half a scoop is for 25 pounds. Yep. Yeah. Right? And then and then because he if he let's say he weighs fifty pounds, you would give him a twenty five pound dose in the morning with breakfast and then another twenty five pound dose in the in the evening with with dinner. Yep. So he gets it twice a day instead of taking it all at once, and he's gonna sip on it, you know, for an hour or two. So he doesn't even buzzle it all right down, And that way, you get the most bang for your buck, and you're you're constantly feeding your blood this these nutrients.
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Take it with a meal,
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not between meals. You start you always start with with the meal because it's it is whole food, and you gotta be digesting it to to absorb.
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Thank you so much.
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You're welcome. Doctor Dave.
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No. I'm just I'm coach coach Dave. I'm just a Alright. Nutritional health coach, but, you know, I've been mentored by doctor Wallach, doctor Glinton, doctor Conway, and pharmacist Ben, and, and some others, you know. And I I just, absorbed it because, my gut was working right.
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Hey, Dave.
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Yes, Samuel.
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Have you ever heard of undecylenic acid?
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Not no. I don't think so.
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It's supposed to be an antifungal, anti candida kind of a thing, anti spring warm, you know, athlete's foot, all that stuff. I just use colloidal silver and I know it works.
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Yeah. My wife used colloidal silver and it doesn't work. It didn't work for you, Did you soak your feet in it?
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I'm soaking, but I'd rub it on.
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Okay. Soak your feet. Try soaking your feet in it with just that. And then and, you know, and then soak and you gotta take it by mouth. And how much did you take by mouth?
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Well, probably nothing.
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Okay. Well, you gotta take it internally and topically. And and, if it's nano silver, don't be afraid. You won't turn blue.
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I'm not afraid.
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Yeah. You know, my antidote for the jab was one ounce of colloidal silver five times a day and two ounces of Dox plant derived minerals three times a day. And, you know, I had a 80 year old lady that got jabbed and she was down for the count. And, in three days, she was up and around and never looked back.
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Okay.
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So I know it works. And, doctor Glidden couple weeks ago, said on that GoodHerbs call, he's got a buddy, a doctor, doctor Morton or something. I texted it, but and I got it in my somewhere in my text messages, but he said that the the feds raided his home about eleven months ago because he has a, an antidote for the jab. And they they at gunpoint in front of his children, they took all of his computers and, you know, everything associated with his, you know, doctor business and no charges. And it's still lingering. And I apparently, he said that guy's website's still up, and it's d r something, Morton, or something like that. I'll I'll have to look it up. But somebody looked it up and, and the what he's selling is imprinted colloidal silver, like a four ounce tincture for $50 or something.
And, no. You take, you know, he said ten drops or something like that or fifteen drops, but the directions were on the website. It was a little bit different than he remembered. But, you know, he says that's the antidote, just silver. I don't know how he imprints it with some frequency or something.
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How often did you still And how long do you have to do that for?
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Well, until it goes away. You do it, you know, as often as you can daily, couple two, three times a day, at least when you wake up and when before you go to bed and, soak it for twenty minutes and, in an ounce of silver and, cover you know, put your feet in warm water so it's they're covered. And then, after that, drain it out and and do it again with, peroxide. And then, do it again with just an ounce of plant derived minerals. Or you can just put plant derived minerals in a in a spray bottle. You can dilute them if you want. You don't have to, and you spray that right on your foot, on your on your toe that's affected. And, you can spray that when you're out working, have that bottle of minerals. You spray your face and and arms and neck and, they absorb right in. They'll cool you right down. Even the cool, you know, the coolness of it cools you off, but the minerals actually cool you down and and absorb and, lower your body temperature.
There's a lot of benefits to topical minerals. You know, we used
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to have, what was that? That's brand of that silver generator that you recommended again? We use the,
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silverlungs.com. It's a silver lungs generator. It was invented by, an engineer and, the silver rods he uses are about at least an eighth of an inch thick. There's real heavy, 10 inches long. And if if I wouldn't have bent our first ones, you know, they they have not diminished in size since 02/2010. And you get the kit, and the kit gives you everything you need, you know, to make a quart at a time. We have some gal amber gallon jugs, one for colloidal, one for ionic. And, we try to keep those full. We don't use as much silver Dow as we used to use, but when I first found it through Alex Jones and, doctor, Reba Reema Libo, viruses, but I don't believe in viruses anymore.
I don't believe they've ever isolated a virus, so it's all bacterial. And they don't, you know, they want us to be afraid of things that we can't see. And, while it says that, and she says, coloidal silver kills the Ebola virus, MRSA, you name it, it kills it. When you soak your feet in the credible results with silver. When
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you soak your feet in the silver, does it discolor the affected tissue? No.
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Okay. But it will kill that that I gave my next door neighbor, he was, like, 67 when we moved in here. And, I met him on his tractor. I was out working in the yard, and, he came over on his tractor. He couldn't hardly walk, you know, lungs, had a broken back when he when he was 18, and and he was just in the weeds, you know. And, eventually, he told me he had a he was going to a podiatrist for three years because of this, infection in his toe. It was fungus. And, I went in the house and got a a 16 ounce bottle. We used to put our silver in to give away, you know, with a pump sprayer, glass bottle.
And, I told him to, you know, spray this in your mouth couple times a day and spray it on your toe, a couple times a day. And, and he did it. And a week later, he called me up, and he said, doctor Dave. And I said, don't you ever call me that again. Who are you? No. Jim, my neighbor. Why did he call you that? Because I healed his foot with silver. I didn't heal it. The silver did. His his he'd been seeing a podiatrist for three years, and it went away, and it never came back. Never came back. He didn't soak it. He just sprayed it on there two, three times a day for a week every and he drank it every day, and it went away.
My neighbor across the street, he did the same thing. His went away. Almost everybody I've told this to have, you know, has had really good success.
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Is is that SilverLungs generator? Is that about $300?
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You know, I I it was. My buddy in Texas, you know, he kept getting sick and and I kept telling him, dude, get yourself a generator. Okay. I will. And he never did. And then, then he got, I mean, he was, he was on the ropes, man. And, he, and he always calls me when he's super sick. And I said, dude, you gotta get somebody to go to the store right now and get you a bottle of silver. And his neighbor come over. He called his neighbors. Neighbor came over. He or he went he went and brought him silver back. And in two days, he was it was totally gone when it was killing him. And, he finally went on the website, and it was like $699 or something. I'm like, dude, I freaking told you when it was probably $2.99, you know?
And, so I don't know how much it is right now, but if you go to silverlungs.com, you know, the longer we wait, the more it's gonna go up. So and this guy's a one man band. He he makes every machine himself. He does it all himself and he ships. Sometimes he has somebody working with him, but, most of the time it's really hard to get ahold of Mario Safaldi. You could see his phone number on his website. You can call him and leave him a message. Hell he may answer. I don't know. I haven't talked to him in a long time, but, give him my name and, and he'll he'll give me a couple of bucks for selling one. I've never used that. We are an affiliate now, but, I've probably had at least two dozen people or more by one of them things on my recommendation, and they all love it. And, and I've never been paid for any of them, because I my wife made me an affiliate, but I don't even know how to use it. Take your take your own.
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Dave. Very
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informative. Very informative. Thanks, Dave.
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He called. Hey, Dave. Did you say that I think you said it was an elderly lady, and she had she been jabbed with vaccination, and and it was the 80 years old. She was 80 years old,
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and her family kept trying to force her to get the jab for a couple years. And finally, she broke down, and she she said okay. And her son took her to a Walgreens or whatever the drugstore was out in California. And, they stuck that needle in her and she crumpled. And he was standing next to her. He caught her. The cement floor, she would have busted her head open and died right there. I know it. And, he carried her home, stuck her in bed. The next day, she called us and told us what happened, and she sounded like, you know what? And, she had a five gallon pail of of those minerals and a gallon jug of silver from, it's called utopiasilver.com.
They sell it by the gallon. She had that already, and, I told her what to do. And three days later, she called back, and she was up dancing. Thank
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you.
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You're welcome.
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What's the vaporizer kit?
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$39.89.
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I don't know. Well, there's a there's a, sonic nebulizer that comes in that kit that you inhale, you know, ionic silver. You like one dropper full, fits in this medicine cup, and you turn it on. There's a little needle and some distilled water that vibrates violently, and it makes the that dropper of, you know, that makes the silver dance and you turn it on, there's a fan, you inhale it, and you get about 24 deep inhales off of it. And it's supposed to infuse your respiratory system for up to seventy two hours. And it does. I know it does. It says vibrating
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vapor or or vibrating mesh vaporizer.
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Okay. May he may have changed it up since we got we bought ours in 02/2010, different now. And, you know, just like everybody else, they want to make things better. I don't know what that is. And I don't know anybody that has one of those. The base unit is 300. It's the same one on Amazon for 300, but this deluxe kit is $4.40,
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which has the vaporizer. But they're not showing it the way it looks. I'm on their site. Oh, here. Here's more info.
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Yeah. Okay. I I I didn't hear anything you just said.
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Yeah. It looks like the vaporizer is to pull it into your lungs.
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Uh-huh.
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It's a little unit. I don't know if it makes the silver. I probably not. You probably put it in there. Nope. And then you You
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plug it into a USB, in you know, when it's got a USB. Yeah. I couldn't hear that now, Dave. Plugged into the computer to charge it. And I don't know if it has a battery. I did get one of those later on when mine stopped working. Mine is different than that. And I I you know, my wife was working, and then we had a flood. And I don't even know where that thing is. I never even got to use it. I do need to replace that thing.
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Says the electrodes are seven and a half inches long, not 10. Okay.
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Well, I was guessing. Whatever how I recall a a quart beaker is, that's how long they are.
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Yeah. It's a flask beaker sort of a thing. Right?
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I don't know. It it's it flares at the bottom. It's a narrow neck, and then the the top is flared, and there's a a rubber stopper that goes in it. And there's two slits in it, and each rod fits into a slit, And the they pop out the top. You grab those with alligator clips. That those clips plug into a a plate that the beaker sits on. It's got distilled water that you measure with the TDS meter, to zero. And, that's about a half inch from the bottom. They're about a half inch or an inch apart. And, and then that those clips plug into the wall one ten. And you cook it on high for, of three it's about three and a half hours to make a quart on high.
And, the, there's a little magnet capsule that goes in the bottom of the beaker, and then the plate that it sits on has a magnet in it, and it spins that beaker every thirty seconds to stir the mixture. Uh-huh. And it's got a you know, it comes with a, laser pointer so you can, you know, flash in there and see the flakes of silver ions in the water. It's got a cleaning kit. It's got a copper scrubber you polish the rods with because they turn black. But I'm telling you, we've been cooking this stuff for since fifteen years now, and the rods are they they have not diminished in size since we got it.
And we make gallons of that stuff.
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Well, you think they would diminish if it's going into the solution. It's just silver ions.
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Okay. And they are silver. You know, they flash when you shine that that light in in there, that, laser pointer, they flash. And, so we have a little bit different, we have this, reducing, powder in a in, like, a little canister. And it's, it's, I can't remember what it's called, but he has a different process now, and it may even be different today. When my friends bought him, he had a a some liquid that you kept in the fridge or freezer, and you put drops in, and mine is powder. And my wife, we got some of that liquid at one point, and she didn't like like it. She liked the powder better.
That's true. But everybody who didn't have the powder, they they like this the the drops, you know. It's just, the process you're used to. It's got a thick manual that tells you exactly how to use it. It's easy to use, and, you know, you can make a couple gallons in a weekend.
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Okay. So I'll try everything else on my feet. I may as well try this.
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Yeah. Right? Somebody else trying to say something?
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Hey, Dave. Were you just saying y'all make gallons and gallons of Colorado silver or something else? Mineral We make ionic silver.
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See, ours starts as ionic, and it's clear, and ours doesn't turn amber until we put these this pinch of this powder in it, and we then we gotta, simmer it on the stove. You don't have to do that with the new ones now. The liquid prevents that, but what hap when it all is ionic for us first and then colloidal, this, poly what is it called? It's a it's a it's, anyway, it we we after we make a batch of silver, when it finishes, we put this pinch, we take the rods out, and then we put a pinch of this powder in it, and then we turn the machine back on for five minutes and stir, you know, the magnet stirs it all in. And then we put it on the stove on simmer, and it takes about twenty minutes to, you know, to simmer. And what happens is the the powder adheres to the the silver ions, and it reduces the parts per million, and it the this poly, poly something. Anyway, it it it protects the ions from burning up in the stomach acid to get down into the small and large intestines.
And that's what the the colloidal silver does. Everything else we use is ionic for the lungs, the eyes, the ears, and the nose, and the skin. We use the ionic. You don't have to, but, you know, and I don't know what if you buy colloidal silver from the store, I don't know what the process is they're using to make it. But
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Okay. Does the does the does the silver lungs machine make the colloidal silver as good as that, apparatus that you are using?
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Yes. Yeah. That's what that's what we we have, a silver lungs generator. Okay. But ours is a you know, I don't know what generation ours is. We bought ours in 2010. See that? It's Joan's from the, after call.
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So so, Dave, what what's this pinch you're putting in there to change it? Yeah. Yeah. It's a polysaccharide.
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Okay.
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It's a polysaccharide. See, when we ordered ours, he he either called us or he put a note in it, and he said he he just came up with this process after he shipped ours, and he said it may or may not come with it. And if it doesn't, he would be sending this canister, you know, as soon as he got it in stock. And I can't remember because it was so long ago. And it it may have actually came with it. And,
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and I I'm assuming that if you're drinking the silver for Uh-huh. Say, candida, you would wanna do it this way. Right? With the pinch in.
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Well, the the process now, it's a drop of silver. You already opened the garage door? Yeah. Okay. Is that what Pam wanted me to do, open the garage for you? Yes, please. She's already opened it for you. I gotta remove this car door. We got a guy here working on some putting in a new door for us. Anyway, yeah. The liquid, you know, don't be afraid of the liquid. It comes with the kit. This guy's an engineer, and I I'm pretty sure everybody that I have had, you know, recommended one of these two, and it's at least two dozen. And these are really dear friends that have ordered them all across the country. One one of them is right across the street though.
And, they they said, like us, it is one of the best investments we've ever made. It'll be a family heirloom you'll pass down from generation to generation. And you'll make, you know, an endless amount of colloidal and ionic silver. You'll never be sick again if you do it the way we do it. Use it. Make it and use it. So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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So David, this is Brenda. How much do y'all still take a day? Y'all still take the silver every day? Or
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My wife uses more than I do. When she goes out, I recommend to people if you're going out, take a you know, we just spray it in our mouth. We got our own, you know, sprayers, and I think we got them from Utopia silver. The, sick I guess they're eight ounce. They're eight ounce glass bottles, and then we got a pump sprayer for a bunch of them. We bought a a dozen or two of them, years ago when we first started making them. We made them made them up and gave them away as Christmas gifts, you know, to our family and friends. Sure. And, so I figured 12 sprays was like a teaspoon.
And I would say spray your mouth 12 times before you leave the house and, you know, swish it around, hold it under your tongue, you know, keep it in there as long as you can and then swallow it. And if you have any any issues on your skin or your eyes or ears or whatever, just spray it on, rub it in. And then when you come home, you spray it again. I don't know if that that might be overkill, but that's what we do. My wife keeps it in the car. You know, we spray our hand if we're you know, we we even we clean apples with it. We just spray the apple and wash it with our hands and and, you know, and it'll kill anything on an apple, you know?
And then I had I had this this mole that was in like the cup of my leg between my ankle and my Achilles, you know. And for my whole life, you know, and I used to scratch it, it would get itchy. And, when I first got silver, not the silver lungs, it was we were buying, sovereign silver, I think it was called through Alex Jones. Just an advertiser, you know. He didn't get he was getting paid for the guy's commercials. But anyway, that's what we first tried. And, I rubbed that thing every night, you know, just with a I'd spray one spray in my hand, stick my finger in it, and rub it on that mole.
Mhmm. And within two weeks, that mole fell off, and it that was in, you know, probably 2006 when I did that, and it's still you know, it never came back.
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That's good. Skin tags,
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pink eye, the flu Mhmm. Ear infections, you know, burns, cuts, scrapes, abrasions. So stomach ache, headaches, fevers.
[03:08:41] Unknown:
Dave, does the manual sort of cover all of these things? Like, when you said soaking your feet, obviously, you need more than an ounce to soak your feet. So you're putting an ounce in a third of water.
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Water. Put an ounce in some distilled water. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm getting at here. Yeah. That's not in the manual. I just figured that's a lot of the stuff I just figured out on my own. I just started doing stuff, and it worked. So how much water do you use?
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Nouns of soap. Well,
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just in a if you got a foot soak thing, you know, a tub, you can stick your feet in, just, you know, to to the ankles or whatever, cover the foot, and however much water that is, and you put an ounce of silver in it. And you soak for, you know, till the water cools off, you know, till it's not comfortable anymore. And if you do that when you wake up, and then you come in at lunch and do it again, and then that before you go to bed, do it again. The more you do it, the faster you're gonna get rid of it. And then take an ounce of silver by mouth. You know, this, that every time you soak your feet, take an ounce of silver. So you're getting it from both ends.
Okay. But that fungus is coming not from outside your toe. It's coming from inside. That's why we we get it from both ways.
[03:10:07] Unknown:
Yeah. And it I've tried everything. It's been persistent. I keep it at bay, but I never really get rid of it. So it's been there for forty five, fifty years.
[03:10:15] Unknown:
Okay. So how much silver do you drink? You said none. No. Right?
[03:10:20] Unknown:
Well, I went for a little while, but I didn't I wasn't, you know, I wasn't doing something as comprehensive as you're talking about. That's all I'm saying. So doctor Wallach,
[03:10:31] Unknown:
when I first heard doc talk about silver, he said since the year February, he's been taking a dropper, a two two droppers. Did he he puts a dropper on each side of his mouth. Alright? When he wakes up, before breakfast, before lunch, before dinner, and at bedtime, he's been taking a dropper of two droppers of silver that often every day since the year February. Now when I when I first heard, about silver on Alex Jones, he had the CEO of Sovereign Silver on, and that dude said, this is when I finally bought it. That dude said they took 30 AIDS patients. They gave them each one ounce of silver five times a day, and in thirty days, none of them had AIDS anymore.
And I heard Rima Liebo say that silver kills the AIDS virus. You know, I heard her say that, and everything else she said, Ebola, MRSA, you know, just the stuff. I'm like, wow. But I I wasn't sold until the CEO actually told us that he this is what he did, and this was the result. I said, we're I just called up and ordered it. And then Samuel. You know, then then I ordered from, you know, Utopia Silver used to advertise on Alex Jones, and Al Adask was the guy. That that statement he came up with, you know, men and other animals or whatever. He used that defense. He was representing Utopia silver, and he won that that supreme court case, in Texas. They're in the Hill Country in Utopia, Texas.
And, well, when I went on their site, I found that you could buy a gallon of silver from them. And and it was very reasonable, even shipped all the way to Michigan. And we bought a gallon, and we used it. And there I put it in the food. I put it in my beer. I put it everywhere. I put it in the dog's bowl. You know, I put it in all the food I cooked. We used the heck out of it. And then we bought a second one, then I started hearing, Mario Sifaldi was a was one of the expert, teachers on Vince Finelli's, USA prepares.
And he was talking about Silver Lungs generator, and I'm like, you know what? After we use that second gallon, well, before when we were ready to order a third gallon, I said, bam. By the time we buy our third gallon, we all have paid for a silver lungs generator. She said order it. Well Mhmm. I ordered it, and, it again, I say it's the best one of the best investments we've ever made.
[03:13:38] Unknown:
Yes, Daniel. Samuel.
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Yeah.
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Well, you take, go out and get a clean source of, aloe gel. Yeah. Put some put some colloidal silver in it. Right? Mix it up. Yep. And then, apply it to your feet before bed. Put a plastic bag over your feet, each one, and tape it up to the ankle.
[03:14:04] Unknown:
Yep. Maybe you just But when I forgot about that because they sell they sell silver lotion, and it's made with aloe. It's aloe and silver.
[03:14:16] Unknown:
So Samuel. Andy, you're you're saying you're mixing the aloe gel with the silver, and then you're putting that on the feet.
[03:14:23] Unknown:
Yep. Because that's the longest that that allows the silver the the little bit of silver you put in it, it allows that silver to stay moist all night. The moisture is what it allows it to continue working. That's why you tap Right. Tape off your ankles. You don't lose
[03:14:40] Unknown:
And you could put it you could actually wear that during the day in your boots.
[03:14:46] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel? Yep. Yep. Alright. And I've I've got the same I've got the same machine Dave does. I've had it for probably ten years, and I like my uncle to gel too. So
[03:14:58] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel. Sorry to sorry to interrupt here. A quick message to you. I just got a call from, Protectotherm, and they do have a shop now button on top of their website. You get a sample of their Oh, color. Powder, yep, for $20.29 dollars for eight ounces. Something like that.
[03:15:22] Unknown:
Okay? Okay. That's good to know. I'll let you know. Yep.
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High yield. Sorry to interrupt.
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What is he selling? What does he got? Free sample of what? No. It's the powder
[03:15:37] Unknown:
Go ahead. It's the pop it's the powder you put in paint that makes it fire retardant
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Oh. Roof.
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So you can paint your house with it to protect it from catching on fire, so so to speak. Oh, wow. I was listening to a guy the other day that said, especially in California, we have unlimited amounts of different chaparral, and the only way they reproduce is through fire. He said our biggest fire here was a few years ago, I think 02/2021, burnt 4,000,000 acres in California. According to this guy, the Indians used to burn 10,000,000 a year, and they did it to to increase the habitat because the only way those chaparral germinated was by fire, and then that attracted the animals that fed off the chaparrales and stuff like elk and deer, etcetera.
So they were they were fine tuning the the environment that they want to live in through fire.
[03:16:52] Unknown:
What's chaparral?
[03:16:54] Unknown:
Well, it's just a low, you know, ground cover. There's according to this guy, like, hundreds of different species in California, especially in Southern California. But, he said that's how they kept the environment going all the time for them. And, of course, we wanted to wipe them out. So out of our greed, we stopped them from burning.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And, you know, pine cones pine cones are full of seeds, and the only way they'll regrow is to be burned open.
[03:17:31] Unknown:
Yeah. There's a lot of trees that need that as well to germinate. They need fire every once in a while. Yep. Then he said the big mistake that Whitey made, it was we would clear cut, and then we would plant one variety.
[03:17:48] Unknown:
Another big mistake. Right? So Right. Was it a mistake, or was it by design?
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I just follow the money, I guess. You know? Yeah. Right.
[03:18:01] Unknown:
Did anybody hear, Blackbird on, Gaddy last week when he talked about Mad Magazine and Alfred e Newman?
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No.
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That that the Jews created Mad Magazine as a parody against, for the, the the cold war, and, Alfred e Newman is the Jew on the cover. And what? Me, worry, and mad stands for mutually assured destruction. And they have the spy versus spy cartoons in there and all kinds of oh my god. Unbelievable.
[03:18:40] Unknown:
Yeah. We got it from all angles at at in our generation, Neil. Boris Badenov and Natasha Futhal, you know, demonizing the Russians
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from Spotsylvania.
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That's right.
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Oh, man. Too funny.
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Boris and Natasha were the best ones on the show.
[03:19:04] Unknown:
Rocky Rocky and Bullwinkle show.
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Right.
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Or even happy days, I was, I was, like, remember the fawns and now I used to hit the jukebox. Well, come to I said, when is the first example hit the jukebox? I guess it was either season two or episode two, and it was an episode where he meets a stripper and wants to marry her, but then she she wants to, stay a stripper. So it's like it's total, like, inversion, you know, subversion, diversion of the Jew. And I guess the Fonz was Jew too. Not only the Inversion. Yeah.
[03:19:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I think ninety
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ninety probably more than 90% of all the actors in Hollywood are Jews.
[03:19:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That that piece on on, are are the Jews to promise people, he he he he's in a segment there where he shows all the Hollywood people with the little red string around the wrist for the Kabbalah.
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Yeah.
[03:20:03] Unknown:
Hey. Hey, Samuel Samuel. I just got a callback from Protect the Therm, and he said there's a problem right now. There's a glitch in the shipping. So I would say call him and see if the glitch is gone before you do order it online. I yield.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Some people claim in some of these fires that nails are melted out of wood fences. So what are we really dealing with this stuff like that is true? And I know Matt from Sonoma, the fire guy. He he could probably tell me whether that's true or not because he lived through it, but that's just too bizarre to all comprehend.
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Yeah. The fence post didn't burn, but the nails melted inside of them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I heard that.
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When the when they had the Paradise Fire, I almost drove up there. I wish I would have to see what it was really like.
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Did you want your rear end fried up there?
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What?
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What was that? You were sort of muffled.
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I said, did you want your rear end fried up there?
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Well, when I would have gone, there wouldn't have been anything there. According to what I saw. The foundations weren't even there. The concrete was turned to dust, and the rebar in the concrete was gone.
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That's the devil that did that.
[03:22:08] Unknown:
Yeah. And the old normal fire I've seen in the past, you know, the usually the the old stone chimney and foundation are there. The wood may not be, but how do you get rid of that stuff? You know?
[03:22:22] Unknown:
You know, my, the our electric company here out of Detroit, Detroit Edison, they call it DTE, Detroit Thomas Edison. The CEO was chased out with that paperwork from, oh, one of them smart meter groups that were chasing them guys out, making them sign an f sign a piece of paper that said they would be responsible if if, they don't take your smart meter off and and your house burns down or anybody gets sick or dies. That guy quit. The CEO of DTE quit, and he went to PG and E. And I heard that he actually got sentenced, to he they pleaded it down to manslaughter, but that Paradise Fire, was traced back to the smart meters. And, and they said it was a fourth amendment violation because they were they were quartering centuries in the people's homes with the smart meter and the appliances with the, you know, the the chips in them that talk to the smart meters.
And I believe that was, the the ruling came out of the the
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still here?
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You cut out for a while if you were talking. I think he's talking to his wife, Pam.
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You know, Preston been listening to her instead of talking to us.
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Paul Preston used to claim that, a lot of a lot of these big fires, the few houses that would stand, often didn't have the meter. So maybe they excite the electrical in the walls or something like that, all the metals. I don't know.
[03:24:50] Unknown:
Well, they're using laser out of from out of space hitting, places too on the surface causing fires.
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Supposedly, there was one guy in the Paradise Fire that stayed On his roof with his garden hose and kept things soaked and saved his house so to find that hard to believe but,
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you know
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Because if the meter is putting turning the house on fire, it wouldn't have mattered. Right? So I don't know. There's just a lot of things to who knows?
[03:25:33] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. Carl in Utah. Can I change the subject for just a minute?
[03:25:43] Unknown:
Sure. Go ahead.
[03:25:45] Unknown:
What, so I'm going through this, question in my head of what is commerce? And if if I'm going out and spraying people's yards, and I'm try I I would consider myself traveling to their home, but I'm not carrying, I'm not carrying freight. You know? I'm not a freight for hire or anything else. Would that be considered still in the traveling versus in commerce versus driving?
[03:26:26] Unknown:
How many miles do you travel a day?
[03:26:31] Unknown:
Oh, probably depends on a day. Fifty, sixty.
[03:26:38] Unknown:
From some of what I've read, what happens is the fourteenth amendment essentially puts you in a condition where all these contracts, like, by operational law, etcetera, happen, and you're stuck not in a bilateral contract, but in a unilateral contract, including the government. When you get yourself out of those, you should be able to go back to the constitution where you can have agreement between two people, you know, instead, and you could go in and out of commerce prior to the fourteenth amendment. You could be protected by the constitution or contract outside of it. That's my understanding of it.
[03:27:33] Unknown:
Can I make a statement relative to the deal? I don't know if it's helpful. Yeah. Go for it. They cannot impose an artificial creature on another sovereign. You are a sovereign entity. You are not a creation of the state. You are flesh and blood. The people would never register. The event was registered, so they gave you an agency with a matching estate in the union. That's what they gave you. That is the result of the hospitality because they were an enemy they were the enemy cabadins. Right? You are not the name. This is part of the whole illusion they gave us. You were given an agency and an estate.
You weren't given a name. Your name is in the creator's book and won't we won't know it until we meet them. If you meddle in the affairs of an infant without authority, you will be held accountable. The infant is the agency, and it's a state. It's it's interest. You're not the name you are operating through it like a transmitting utility. When you apply for a privilege like a driver's license, you agree by consent to have service of process for that name at that address, which cuts out the secretary of state from having to accept service of process for you as a foreigner. So turn it over to the US Treasury to discharge that debt. Maxim of law. It's better to suffer any indignity than to consent.
Yield.
[03:28:48] Unknown:
So going back to your cleaning, are you registered with the state?
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Your birth certificate, they're presuming you are because of your birth certificate. That because that that is what the the DL is is derived from and this SN number, which is basically a banking, num tracking number.
[03:29:16] Unknown:
So how do we how do we separate the birth certificate
[03:29:24] Unknown:
from that birth certificate? I mean, I I I've gone and got my certified, but Yeah. I would say you want secretary of state to become the the service of process so that your address doesn't become your name. You know, these psychos that are trained by Mossad pull you over in the side of the road and you don't have a piece of plastic. They they tase you. Right? So, I would say what they're saying with this is what I'm doing, which is and I haven't had, I've not had a license since 02/2006, maybe, something like that. But I would, what I'm doing with mine is getting everything, you know, US secretary of state authenticated because I've already had them, authenticated the birth certificate and the marriage certificate at the state level. Now I'm gonna send that all to SOS, have that authenticated, then turn it into the county with my depositional affidavit, which says, you know, I've seen no evidence this name is me.
Then I get that stamped and I can send it to whoever, you know, just like we send out the notices of nationality to whoever. Right? We get that list or whatever. So it's kind of another level of of depth of separating the the, birth certificate, creation, which is what I just read versus the living flesh per you know, man. I don't know if that if that is enough, but that's gonna be my service of process to them.
[03:30:51] Unknown:
K. I probably will have to retalk about this with you and maybe get a little help with that. I'm not really sure. You you went a little deeper than what I know of. I haven't I haven't heard about doing the certification on your your marriage license or anything else. But then again, you know, I've been here to this. So
[03:31:13] Unknown:
Have you read the Bros. Declaration of Independence?
[03:31:17] Unknown:
It kinda is. You know? I mean, I think, but but the document is still out there. Whatever documents the state has created is still out there. We have an interest in those. It's not necessarily majority interest, but they created it as a result of the live events, you know, that god created us just like the marriage licenses or this, I should say, the marriage certificate. They're out there doing something with it, but we must have an interest in that. But we can then, you know, modify that interest by notifying them. Say, hey. We do you guys take the profits on this? If you guys are hypothecated, whatever they're doing with it, if they're making liens against it, whoever who who cares? But they can have those profits, but also all the liabilities, which would be a ticket on the side of the road, which would be a property tax, which would be whatever comes in the quote, unquote, persecuted name or married, you know, married name. And that's what I'm trying to do with the mortgage company now. The first time I sent it to the mortgage company, they sent back a letter to my wife because she's the only one on the promissory note. They sent her and say, oh, we need third party authorization. Somebody's trying to, you know, activate your account or pay for something or something like that. And now I sent them the marriage certificate that shows that I do have an interest in this promissory note that my wife signed because in the end of the day, they come take the house because the promissory note is unpaid.
I'm living here. I'm putting my children's birth certificates with the with The United States. So now that I'm I'm basically watching out for The United States. It's bigger than George. It's bigger than my house. It's bigger than my wife. It's our whole it's the whole country. It's The United States. And not the whole country, but their their whole corporation. So now you're coming to the aid of that, trust. So you're being like a trust protector. So it's it's it's much bigger. It's kinda like I I liken it to our nationality. We're like, we need more people. We need more people where we have the whole United States there, which we can defend as protector of that trust by going to peace with it, by this kind of process.
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Like I said, have you read the declaration of independence that, Broth wrote?
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Yes. Yep.
[03:33:16] Unknown:
I mean, do yeah. You might might wanna do that because I think that is a concise statement wrapping into it clearly what George is saying in a lot of ways. I can read it real quick. It's a short paragraph. He and Ambrose says you need to publish this in your paper of record in your local community according to the, legal statement, laws of your state. So you might have to run it for a day, three days, who knows how long. But anyways, this is it. He titled it the declaration of independence. He says, I, John or Jane Doe, in the name of the almighty creator, by my declaration of independence, solemnly publish and declare my right to expatriate absolute, my res entrust to the foreign jurisdiction known as the Municipal Corporation of the District of Columbia, a democracy, and return to the Republic.
Any and all any and all past and present political ties implied by operation of law or otherwise entrust with the democracy is hereby dissolved. I, John or Jane Doe, have full power to contract, establish commerce as guaranteed by the full 10 amendments to the Bill of Rights, to the Constitution of the lower case United States Of America, a republic. That's it. It's notarized, and you're done, according to him. Now to stay out of commerce, what he wants you to do is have a non interest, bank account. And if you do any, billing over state lines to use a postal money order. And that was pretty much his remedy back when he wrote this.
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Not the Libros Constitution.
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Well, if you you go through his his his The USA, the republic, the house that nobody lives in, that's out of there. It's, like, 60 pages. And he gets into depth about the fourteenth amendment, what was done, how it was done. And if he just basically, when you were born, your will was put into probate, and this breaks that. The letter would include that birth certificate and everything else. All of these, things done by operational law, which is a contract that the parties don't even need to be aware of, and it's automatic. That's pretty much what the fourteenth amendment does by being born.
Yeah. And and residing and all of the rest of it. Right? So
[03:36:31] Unknown:
Hey, George. On your on your driver's license that you don't have anymore, did you rescind that or how did you go about that? I tried I turned mine in the other day. It's been now well, when we had that conversation a while back about it, but they wouldn't like, oh, no. It's still good. You could don't if you give it, I mean, you could always get it right back and, you know, we don't really destroy these. And I'm like, well, I don't want it. And then I figured out that you have to use the word rescind and in your language with them.
But I haven't gone back since because honestly, I don't have a driver's license. So I really haven't bothered with it, but I probably should. My concern is without the driver's license, getting insurance on the vehicle on the automobile,
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and
[03:37:39] Unknown:
when does that become an issue if I've got truck payments that I'm making to the bank, you know, and I don't have a driver's license? Can that vehicle be insured, besides doing, you know, a separate bond by my you know, that I have right, you know, I'm just I got a lot of you know, it's the we're all been indoctrinated so much. It's just hard to wrap my head around this hole.
[03:38:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Insurance is an interesting animal. We have one that's in my my wife, you know, believe that she is the name, and so she wants to continue. She's a naturalized citizen, actually. And she wants to keep, the things. So I do I but I travel in it, and I consider a consumer product. But, but it's got plates and everything. Then I've got another vehicle that has Montana. It's in a trust in Montana. Over eleven years, it's in a vision being interesting. I told the cop one time, hey, it's in a trust. He goes, oh, it's in a trust like that. So it was interesting. They they haven't bothered me, you know, haven't really done anything, you know, untoward with it. But but, but you don't have to have insurance on that. In Idaho, you have to have insurance.
So on the other vehicle, we have, some insurance. But I think if I anything happened, I would just send the, you know, send the things back to them, just pay the order of the treasury because what I'm doing with, you know, with the process that I'm doing, I'm trying to separate that commercial side. And, really, I think it's all insured by the treasury. I think it's, you know, the whole government's just a protection racket, you know, so and which should be, like, hey. Hey. Do you want us not to burn down your house? Pay, you know, pay pay us this tax. No. No. It it is. It's definitely good. But, anyway, that might be oversimplified, but, I think you can still carry all those things. And because you're operating you're basically that name is, is like a indemnification, you know.
That's what that's what I'm learning now. It's like, okay. I've been I go, I'm not the birth certificate. You know, my initial nationality process, I returned the birth certificate. I returned the Social Security number, all that kind of stuff. But really, it's not ours to return. We can go to peace with it. It's an offering that they did through the labor code and and the civil war and all that stuff. 8063 and all the way to the Social Security Act in 1933. They had this plan. You know, they had the whole they had it all sketched out. You know? And Colonel House, whatever, that's true. Alright. I think evidence.
You know?
[03:40:21] Unknown:
I I think the way that I could see handling it for myself would be telling them that I need the driver's license out of necessity in order to function in the society of they've created, but as a state citizen, I'm not waiving my rights to anything that I have there.
[03:40:50] Unknown:
Well said.
[03:40:54] Unknown:
I mean, basically, what they've done is they've taken something in common law that used to be, you know, stealing your car, for instance, stealing your horse was a hanging, hanging offense and now they're the the people stealing your car if you don't have, you know, insurance.
[03:41:16] Unknown:
Yep. And and, you know, that's the it's like you said, that's the limited liability scheme. You know, that's the FRN scheme. It's all limited liability. It's not strict liability like being responsible for
[03:41:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Covering yourself and all the different problems that that not, you know, dropping the driver's license, I think is quite complicated and has a lot of far reaching effects. I just don't have the time for all of that, but I think out of necessity, you could make that claim and not be waiving your rights, and ask the AG to respond to that if he's in disagreement. And if he's silent, then, you know, and send that maybe, you know, registered mail so you have chain of custody. And I think you have something you could stand on lawfully.
[03:42:13] Unknown:
Science deems consent.
[03:42:19] Unknown:
Yeah. We should ask him for a timed response and something like that. You know, you've got sixty days to disagree with me, let's say, or I'll or you'll be in agreement with me. So something like that. You know, I know there's a better way to word it, but I mean, the government is using the doctrine of necessity to do a lot of things, and I think we should that's one of those things we can turn on them and do the same in light. Because obviously That's
[03:42:55] Unknown:
what Terry Lee kinda I mean, if you wanted to do it, isn't that what Terry Lee, he kinda sent them back and said sent the license back and said, you know, give me a letter saying that, that you can't do this in this name if you wanted to, if you wanted to do the name thing,
[03:43:08] Unknown:
you know, use your Christian name because that's another strategy. Well, yeah. He was sort of doing a refusal for cause because he said that one of the stipulations he needed on his license was it to be a Christian name and they, of course, when they couldn't do that he said, Well then I'm voluntarily giving it up to you, but I just want a certified document from you that says I'm volunteering it for reasons, and those were his causes not not to have one so that if he ever gets in the duel with the judge, he can say it wasn't that I didn't want to have a driver's license is as, like, I asked for there to be a Christian name on the document and they couldn't do that. That's why I had to refuse it, not because I didn't want Refusal for cause in the patriot groups in the nineties used to be a big deal.
Everybody was talking about it, and I think it still has a lot of validity especially as state citizens, which is something This is Bruce. They didn't know about.
[03:44:28] Unknown:
Go ahead. This is Bruce. I'll give you an example of what a national is and my ancestors were people that wrote the document to succeed from the nation in '18, '59, and they called the community together. Back then, that was 1860 '59, called the community together to vote on what they had come up with. They voted yes, presented to the state representatives. So the person that was represented at our county went down with the document and presented it to the legislative branches, and they both accepted it. And they wrote what they wanted, as a where the constitution is what they wrote again, their own constitution.
Now if one of our representatives didn't do what the people told him to do, and they could be in Washington, DC or or wherever they were going to represent the state, he didn't do what they wanted to the who he's representing, the town or county or whatever, they can call him back off the off the post. Bring him back and and deep you know, either arrest him or tell or take away his authority to represent anybody in the state. So that's the power we have. We got the same power back in 1859 to do what they they did. That's what a state citizen is.
[03:46:16] Unknown:
And you bring up a good point because the trust, the the people that are the trust
[03:47:41] Unknown:
Alright.
[03:47:42] Unknown:
But I think you. Wow. Who is that? But I think we, you know, I think we can still, write to our representatives, even though we're not part of you know, we're disenfranchised because technically it says you must be a US citizen, but the republic is still there. So the representative and both your congress you know, your state congressman, as well as your, state, rep and then, Congress, rep and, and senator should get a notification that, you know, something, it some, you know, somebody's doing something untoward to you and see if they can see if they can make it go away. Because they're responsible for the United States trust, and we're we're acting to re to, to protect The United States. And that that is exactly what happened when those representatives got recalled. Right? So they are still the trustees and must act in The United States. There's pretty much
[03:48:38] Unknown:
a renegade government because even even three northern states after they approve the fourteenth amendment tried to rescind, and the federal government wouldn't accept it.
[03:48:55] Unknown:
Correct. And we can be, so instead of trading with the enemy, we can actually be, you know, protected by international law, law of nations. Because you're exactly right. It is, you know, we're foreigners. That's what we are. We're foreigners, and we deserve the protection. My wife, when she was an immigrant here before she naturalized, she used to run through stop signs, cup, pull over, and just let her go. They had no jurisdiction.
[03:49:32] Unknown:
They had no jurisdiction over your wife because he wasn't a citizen yet?
[03:49:39] Unknown:
Correct. She because it yeah. She basically, they had no jurisdiction. It's it's it's just a plain truth about what the name is, you know, what the name is on the rules. Now once you get naturalized or once you have a birth certificate, you got your name out there. With or without a d r DL. And they always ask you for address and name. You ever noticed that even if you didn't have your DL with you?
[03:50:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Thanks.
[03:50:11] Unknown:
I don't I personally don't like relying on international law because we don't have any control over that at all. I would prefer that we stick with our our country's citizenship, our state,
[03:50:26] Unknown:
and demand our rights to be protected that way. Right. I'm not I'm not asking for international law, but I'm saying The Hague The Hague and also Libra Code and the law of nations would protect us as just this If you're a southerner still, quote, unquote, in rebellion, you know, you'd be protected as well if you didn't join that fourteenth amendment franchise after they after they kicked out the state congresses.
[03:50:51] Unknown:
I've I've I've read in many places that, the we created The United States created the UN and and relies on international laws so that it can big basically supplant the constitution. They need it to be there.
[03:51:16] Unknown:
Right. And the constitution was put there so that there could be commerce because we had the articles of confederation already, but we did they didn't do it was not a commercial, solution. Internet international trade and all that. You know? That's that's that was the end goal was to make The United States and the Roman Empire my humble opinion based on, you know, abs front of face shields evidence, including the 800 bases around the world.
[03:51:40] Unknown:
Well, commerce was a problem between states as well as international, and that's they brought some of that in. But, of course, again, if you read Brost, that was protected by Swift versus Tyson, but the fourteenth Amendment destroyed that as well. And by the time you get to Erie Railroad, this guy looking for protection was a fourteenth Amendment citizen. So they said, Nah, it's over. No more protection in commerce. So we we lost it over time every you know? That's that's sort of the issue I have with the approach on people who think this thing was evil from the get go. Well it definitely had some weaknesses in it that could have been better done in hindsight, like too much power in the presidency, they were basically looking for a king, so that was a big mistake, and that's what Lincoln took advantage of.
You know, somebody was gonna take advantage of that power at some point and become a dictator, and, you know, it's pretty much what we've had since Lincoln. But prior to that, you know, we were sort of doing okay. But as usual, we fought a war, and everybody loses rights every time they fight a war. Yes. And that that was a reset. We should be the biggest sea snakes in the world if we really wanted to protect their freedoms. Right?
[03:53:25] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:53:27] Unknown:
Every war is a restatement of trust, I think is what what the court is of a trust, you know. So it's it's also a reset of the economics and everything else, and that's what's coming with our next World War three. There's there'll be the new Bretton Woods. And a lot of rich men have written, they want it to get done and over with so that they can move on. They're not worried about it. They're going to be part of the reset and benefit from it.
[03:55:14] Unknown:
I'll see you kids later. Alright?
[03:55:21] Unknown:
Goodbye.
[03:55:25] Unknown:
Bye bye.
[03:55:34] Unknown:
I don't think we're gonna come out on top on this one either. As far as fighting wars, we we don't have the weapons anymore, and we don't have the tactics. We're sort of screwed. Russia is working towards building 2,000 drones a day because there's turned it to such a valuable tool, and they're testing tactics on the battlefield. It used to be a tank wouldn't survive out there if there was one drone. The Russians has currently built a tank that they put out there. It looks like a test. 60 drones hit it. None of the drones destroyed it, and the tank was disabled because it, drove over a landmine.
But the drones didn't take it out, which has become the norm. And we're we're building 3 to 11,000,000, $12,000,000 missiles to shoot down one thing. Well, if you're making 2,000 things a day, you're gonna be broke fast. We just don't have the capacity as we used to. I mean, World War two, we were building, you know, 350 b seventeens a month. Now it takes us, I think, two years to build an f 35, which is usually down for maintenance all the time or not working for some reason? I mean, we've really and at a cost of, like, a $100,000,000, how how do we expect to fight a force any force with technology and prevail?
It's just going to be impossible.
Introduction and Special Day
Patriot Birthday and Keith Ranieri
Interview with Kevin Hoyt
IRS Notices and Tax Strategies
Listener Interaction and Personal Stories
Epstein Files and Political Implications
Health and Wellness Discussion
Commerce and Sovereignty Debate
Fire Management and Environmental Concerns
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