In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles delves into the intricacies of freedom and the legal conundrums surrounding citizenship and regulations. The discussion touches on the historical and legal research that has unraveled the complexities of how unelected bureaucrats enforce regulations on citizens. Roger shares his personal journey of over thirty-three years in understanding these issues and emphasizes the importance of truth-seeking and educating others about their rights and freedoms.
The episode also features a lively discussion on various geopolitical topics, including the influence of Zionism, the role of the United States in global politics, and the intricacies of the financial system. The conversation is enriched by contributions from listeners and guests, who share insights on topics such as the validity of nuclear weapons, the role of trust in financial dealings, and the impact of historical events on current geopolitical dynamics. The episode concludes with a call for continued vigilance and education in the pursuit of truth and freedom.
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That's the ridge. Good morning. Morning. Morning. Morning. Here we go on another session here at the Radio Ranch, Roger Sales. This one is date stamped 07/02. Boy, I almost got that wrong yesterday. July today. Good morning. We are joined by other folks. I think we probably got is Alan's, conglomerate with us? Nope. I thought I heard Alan's voice. Okay. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Anyway, there are certain other people there, and mister Beamer is the one that stays atop them, rides atop them, and identifies them for their help and, to give them proper recognition and credit. So, Paul, if you would.
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Well, we try to do that. We're we're, we're accompanied by three streaming platforms right now. First of all, thanks to our buddy Paula Cross the Drink, radiosoapbox.com. He'll be with us for the entire two hours. We have eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, making a lot of noise with, Amicus Curie brief on a a suit against Donald Trump. That's interesting. And also Global Voice Radio Network, my pet project that I've I've had going for about ten years off and on. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com, where you find a whole bunch of things, downloadables, exhibits, interviews, and also links to free conference call so you can join us live on the show. We support, landline telephones, smartphones, tablets, computers, web interfaces, through supported browsers like Google Chrome, stuff like that.
Thank you for, joining us this morning. Good morning, Ron.
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Yeah. Good morning, Paul. Is, Alan still wrapped up in his, stuff that he would has been?
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Yeah. Yes. If, they're approaching they're approaching them with a offer of settlement, and, that's gonna be, 7 figures. And if that doesn't fly, that that amount could, roughly be tripled. So, lots of interesting things are gonna be happening Okay. Happening through WDRN.
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Alright. It'll be interesting to hear the rundown on that, when we're able to. Yep. So good morning. I don't have anything really, phenomenal to talk about as we open here this morning. Of course, I just what what I usually say is for the folks that may be new, somewhere stumbled into this and, wondering what we're talking about. Hopefully, you maybe had some indication when you came, but, we're talking about your freedom. We have through many years, over a hundred years of research, legal and historical in three men's lives, been able to unravel the conundrum, the solve the patriots' Rubik cube, if you will, on how they've got us enslaved.
The question, of course, is how's that unelected bureaucrat over there able to make these man made laws called regulations, reinterpreting legislation of the elected officials. And then not only, promulgate the official or a regulation, but then apply it to you and enforce it on you. How does that happen? That's the answer people been looking for since I got into this. So, well, this month, thirty thirty three years ago, that's a long time, Paul. That's about half of my adult lifetime. And, so I've been, delving into this. Once it crossed my path, I I've never been able to let go of it. Or I should say it's never let go of me, whichever one of those you wanna turn, look at it through, lenses of some many of you are in the same situation.
I can tell by people's enthusiasm, once the truth hits them, that, what takes over your life, you know, and the other people that just, call you names or whatever. They think you're crazy, and those are the ones that, God said they're not truth seekers. And so they would believe, and he sent them to believe a big lie. And, boy, they bought it hook, line, and center. And, if you've got one that's why I've I've learned over the years. It's taken a lot of years has been painful Yeah. At times. That the only way to, pursue this is to put it in front of people and see who it resonates with.
And then if it resonates with them, then you feed them. You know? But, boy, if it doesn't resonate with them, you're, you know, like to say, you're beating your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop. So I've learned not to do that, I think, most of the time over the years. And, so we try and just very gently and, what's the word I want? Nonconfrontationally, have this discussion with people in the best way we found over all these years, or at least I think, is to present the equivocation backwards.
The knot they've got tied in your mind, James one eight, double minded man, uncertain in all of his ways. And, you take that as example, one of the best ones, you know, easy. Are you a citizen of The United States or a citizen of The United States Of America? Out of most people, that's very innocent, certainly not threatening. It's nonconfrontational. You're just asking a just asking a simple question. And, of course, the, payload is they think those are both the same thing. So, you could use that, maybe explain, you know, it's not really the same thing. One of them is, like, free, and the other one is, like, in a condition of voluntary servitude. What?
You'll know when somebody's interested. You guys that are listening here have probably been doing that, the regulars, and so you know what I'm talking about. When you get a well, you could say when you get a live one, you know, one that can frost a mirror, then you can start education. You can educate them a little bit. So That's a You know, it's really funny. What pardon me, Paul?
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When you get one that can frost a mirror.
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Well, I mean, really, ain't that like it is? I I'm not sure most of those people can, intellectually, certainly. But then you can pursue that a little bit. As many of you know, it takes longer with some than with others. I don't know the individual implications of that. It's just that, man, some people just jump right on it. You know, William was, on here, our buddy in Augusta. And, he was explaining it to somebody. He told us the other day, and all he did was explain what the the the I think the original status was, and then he showed them the fourteenth amendment, and the guy caught it. Bam. Just like that.
Some people are like that. Others, it just, throws them into a tailspin. I don't know the reasons psychological reasons for all that. They've I know one thing. Our enemies have done a masterful job of of, hiding this and turning it around where, political correctness and all the other things where you'll get people arguing with you over the plain facts. You know? And I continue to think back when that happens about Yuri Brezhnikov, I believe is his name, the the Russian KGB office officer that defected in the eighties and did that Sterling interview with, with the creature from Jekyll Island guy.
I can't recall his name at the minute. But, Brezhnikov said when you get in that but you Griffin, g Edward Griffin, when you get in that condition, and they get you to that third stage is you can put facts right in front of people, and they can't see it. And, man, I've seen that. I've seen that a bunch. So it's a selective thing. You just try and prospect out there, find out who who's open. The further we get down this road and the more exposure we get on our enemies and stuff, I think the more people should be open, but we're, we're not too flooded with new people around here. And that's one of the drawbacks of getting a Republican in is our our people take a deep breath. Oh, Trump's in. I'll go sit on the couch for four years.
Well, it's not really a way to approach this, but, that's the way some people take it. Unfortunately, again, I think I mentioned yesterday that I watched the night before. This was Sunday night. Monday night, watched the Tucker interview with, Marjorie Taylor Greene. Have any of y'all seen that and would like to talk about it a little bit? Rick, did you see that? She's a Georgia girl, you know, from the Northwest Corner of the state up there. Did did you happen to watch that yet or see any clips of it? No. I did not. You did not? Are you a are you an MTG fan or not?
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Oh, yeah. But I don't I don't generally follow that the politics that closely. You know? This Uh-huh. It's a must.
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Okay. Well, she's a boy, she's just so bright and genuine and and just got such a pleasant attitude, and she's really learned. She's had to she's gotten beat up up there a whole bunch. You know, the her first term up there, they wouldn't even give her a committee assignment. She just drifted around as a as she said, I'm a representative. I represent these people. And, she was quite adamant about that in, in her way. And, yeah, they didn't even give her a committee assignment for the first two years. She's up there now on top of a couple. She's pretty tight with, DJT evidently and, supports him wholeheartedly no matter what the mistakes are. And I kinda tend to agree with her, but she is a, she's a big fan of, mister Trump.
And, but she's not to the point where she won't criticize him when he's wrong, and that's the same way Alex is. And I guess we are. I'm just glad that he's president in my lifetime, quite frankly, for me to see it and have this overview of politics and understanding that, myself and, many of you have. It just throws a whole different new light on all of that. Anyway, that's worth watching. I still haven't had the chance yet, to go back and watch the latest one with, Robert Kennedy,
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who is That's a good one, Roger. I went over there and watched the Marjorie Taylor Rain, seen that one up there, so I watched it instead. Sorry. Yeah. That's that's okay. I just I watched Marjorie. I wanna see her yet. My Georgia ties, of course,
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my friend Harvey kinda knows her a little bit a little bit. And, so, anyway, well, I'm anxious to see the Robert Kennedy one because he's, of all the appointees, he is maybe kicking more sand than anybody, and he is really did you see the stuff they uncovered? Well, Lisa did because she watched the interview and the news bleeps that have come out that they have found where they hid, with HHS and the vaccines in a study that the the injection had a 1100% increase in the chances of of getting, all this bad stuff. You know?
What's the word I'm looking for where the kid is like Side effects. No. Autism. Autism. Autism. Oh, autism. My brain. Autism. Eleven hundred percent chances of getting autism were increased, and they hid that. So he is already
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hepatitis was. Was that type of COVID, or was that the hepatitis?
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It was hepatitis b that they give they give some of these shots. I'm just learning this. Of course, I didn't have children. But, they're given these shots before they cut the umbilical cord to the mother. Two of them. Hepatitis
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know that was And I didn't realize, and they might, but I just knew it was when the within the first twenty four hours. I mean, it's really close. But you know what that did, Roger? I'm kinda you know, it's one of those mixed things. By them doing that on such a newborn baby, and if anybody has any sense and is not just blind trusting, which thank god a lot of new parents aren't, That really woke up a lot of new parents to the whole vaccine scam. Well, you know, it's interesting. I've got a a friend down here who's
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well, he's still he's still in the pink cloud. I call him I call him attractively naive. He's got a a really attractive naivete about him at in his sixties. You know? Good guy. He got two daughters. One of them, the first time pregnancy. Just recently, they announced it a couple months ago. I think she's due in December or something. And, all this stuff that I haven't I've tried to present all our stuff to, and he never it never clicks with him. You know? He'll go look up like he'd never heard of the USS Liberty. You know? He never heard of Revelation two and three nine and some of those things. And, sitting right there with him when he checks them out on the cell phone and validates it, but he's still questioning, you know, still to stand back ish. Well, the one interesting thing is I asked him, when he announced his, daughter was pregnant.
I said, are you teaching him about vaccines? And he said, yeah. I'm telling him about that stuff. So he that little area he's coming forward on, but the, the others, he's still big skeptic. You know? So, anyway, I guess that's alright. Everybody's to their own individual time and decision. And, as I've told y'all many times, my over the years, I've honed a lot of this down where I can deal with it easier and, don't go beat people up or chase them anymore. And I go back to the watchman on the wall prophecy because that's the important part here, I think. Anyway, that's conclusion I've come to.
My duty, as I've told you all many times, well, I'm not here to chase you down and beat you up to file an affidavit. That does not work. K? It doesn't work because many times you alienate relationships if you press too hard. If they don't wanna do it, they're never gonna do the study and the thinking and everything about it. Because as all of you know, when you file this paperwork, nothing changes. So that means you've got to be the change. The only way that happens that I've seen over all these many years is when someone learns the information and starts attacking it and the understanding, the re empowerment, all those things come.
And if they're not gonna do that, there's no sense in having them. I mean, it's nice to see the paperwork go across people's desk up there. I guess they see more of them coming through. It's got some element of success, but you're never gonna really help that person, because, they will not do the study again. If you don't get the information, you don't change. And if you don't change, nothing changes. So it's real futile to me, and that's why I've kinda insisted on the fact that my duty here is simply to inform people they've got a choice. You know? If there's any equivocation and any questions on that, we'll certainly can have a discussion about it. But if I'm the watchman on the wall. I told you this is coming. I've relieved myself from my responsibility in your life.
If you don't want to accept it, you don't wanna look into it, you wanna call me ugly names, that's fine. You're the one that's got the blood on your hands because I told you. K? So that's kind of the line of demarcation I've approached as it relieves me of all all kinds of, and you too if you're spreading this message and think that way. It relieves you all kinds of drawbacks and, well, he said, then all that crap. And, I've been through all of it. I I think I probably been through most situations you can go through with this information. And, so we put it in front of people and say, hey. If you got a question, we're here to answer it. If you don't, you wanna stay in the little pink cloud, Just go climb in and pull it over you.
And pretty soon, when the when the screws start tightening, don't run to me. I told you. You didn't listen for whatever reason. So, sorry. It's your own your freedom, your life, everything that's involved in it, it's your decision. I've mentioned many times the statement doctor Laura Schlesinger made that caught my ear so hard years ago. We're all where we are because of choices we've made. We're all where we are because of choices we've made. And and I've never heard even the most argumentative devil's advocate person argue with that. So that goes back if you think about that then, every time you get into a situation where you got a question, do I do this or do that?
Every one of those choices can be incredibly important even though they might need not seem so at the time. And so the best part of your decision making can come in on virtually every decision you make because you don't know the repercussions of a wrong one, and they can be severe even though it might look innocent, every choice, and that brings the responsibility back to you again. And isn't that what all of us want, really? Isn't that why y'all are here to go back and be free and freedom means personal responsibility? That's really what it means.
And, but and you don't have the, FED shit to go over and suck off of. I don't want you know, I get my Medicaid. I wanna get my whatever. And, of course, I'm guilty of that too on Social Security. That's about the only thing I take from them. But, realistically, it was my my funds that they took. It's not money. It's debt, of course, but all those years. And, you know I'm happy to have it. Yes.
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Yes, Lisa. What's your name? Reflecting on some of the things of history, I I I I sometimes and I don't know that you wanna call it communism, but some of these leaders of nations that take back control of their national resources.
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Okay.
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I had kind of a louder truck go by, so I'm here for a second. Sorry. Okay. That's alright. Well, you got any particular leaders in mind, examples you're thinking of? Or Gaddafi. Gaddafi.
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Gaddafi. Very good example.
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Yes. And and they're also evidently in Iran. They were attempting to do it. I believe Hitler and and I don't know who the head was of Japan, but just trying to take a hold of their currency. I'm not sure how they did with national resources and stuff. So I'm gonna go back to Gaddafi, and I think it was attempted in Iran at times to take hold. And those resources have profits. And so why shouldn't the people of the country benefit from the profits of those resources? Because And and Alaska does that also with their oil. And those the the residents of Alaska get national dividends.
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Because the Rothschilds say that they're all theirs.
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Well, I but but, see, some people would view that as communism. But is that really communism? It's an it's a nationalism. Every nation has resources that really should belong to the people of that nation.
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Of course. I think they call it fascism, like, like Mussolini.
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Well, that's what we're in right now. I guarantee you. Let me give you a better example.
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Ukraine.
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Finally, on the, what, fifth or sixth time, little dingbat over there, Zelensky finally came to Trump and said, y'all signed the minerals agreement. Right? So we got minerals coming out of there, these, what do they call them? Earth rich minerals or something.
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And I disagree with Rick. I disagree with Rick on that. The fascism is the corporate corporations and government. Well, they're the ones profiting, not the people.
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Mussolini called it corporatism. Fascism, same thing. The melding of government and corporations. And that's what we've got now. I'm I'm gonna show you the example if I can get to it. Zelensky, excuse me, signed this little, thing finally on these rare earth minerals, what they call them. Who you think is gonna go over there and do all that mining and how what companies you think you're gonna do it? Maybe like Rio Tinto? Rio Tinto, the Rothschilds worldwide mineral based company. Yeah. That's who's gonna do it. That's who's gonna go over and excavate them, get them processed, and and all that stuff. So isn't that corporatism?
I mean, look. It's it was, BlackRock that was, involved in partial ownership with the Chinese of the Panama Canal. The these are all it really is fascist. I mean, honestly.
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Okay. But so how did Gaddafi do it where he did let some of these corporations come in to do the work? They, of course, made enough profit,
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but they weren't allowed to rob the people of it all. Yeah. I don't know exactly how he did it. He was an exceptionally good leader for his people. He cared about his people. Of course, there's a number of things he was involved with or doing. One of them was trying to, the I guess, the the femme fatale, if you will, was trying to, establish a gold backed currency for Africa. That's probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Up to that point, you have to know a little bit about Libya and why it is such a precious jewel is because they've got some of, if not the, what they call the sweetest crude in the world.
What they mean by that is it's got a lower sulfur content, and it doesn't have to be refined as much to get the byproducts. And so that's why sweet crude is so, desired all over the world. There's a couple of places about it. Alaska evidently has very sweet brewed up at Anwar. There's a hole there's a real ugly, one developing here in North South America over in the Northeast part of, around Venezuela and Guyana and those little countries around there. They have found a a huge pool of light sweet crude over there. And a lot of it is under a piece of land, Lisa.
It's been under dispute since the United Nations was founded because this, dispute has been written in with the original, you know, UN documents. I've been I've heard. And that is a piece of land that's fairly big, and it's between Venezuela and Brazil and Guyana. And all of them claim it, and nobody has clear ownership to it. And there's a bunch of that sweet crude right under that. K? So what Gaddafi was doing was taking that. I don't know about the corporations he was working with. I know, supposedly, he and Tony Blair. Remember Tony Blair from the whatever party it is over there that he labor or the other Yeah. Stories, I guess. He was a Tory.
Well, supposedly, him and Tony Blair were great friends, Gaddafi. But, what happened was, and it's documented in the guy that he, he's kinda infirm now. He's in a, old folks home, and he's delusional. It's Victor Ostrovsky is his name, and he wrote two books. He's a Canadian Jew, wrote two books. I just heard one mentioned the other day in some conversation, actually, on this, on this subject. Victor Ostrovsky, who I've spoken with on the phone when he was when he was cogent, was a Mossad line officer who turned on him, and he wrote two books. One of them is called By Way of Deception, We Shall Make War, and the other one and, of course, so that's the Mossad's motto.
And the other one was The Other Side of Deception. And, of course, because it exposed information like I'm about to tell you here in a second, it was totally panned by the overwhelmingly powerful, Jewish lobby. I found a copy when I was still in Atlanta for a dollar brand new in a in a book store somewhere. So, anyway, one of the things that Victor Ostrovsky brought out in that book, the first one, was how they killed Gaddafi, Lisa. And what they did is they had a a a beacon kinda thing. They wrapped it up in a Persian rug, took one of those small submarines, two man submarines, and and smuggled it into Libya, landed on the beach. They had obviously Mossad people there to help them. And they took that little beacon, and they went and placed it next to where he stayed. And I think he stayed in a tent. But somehow, they got that placed, and that was the honing beacon that they used to kill Gaddafi.
So in the end, who who's in the middle of this? The Mossad, of course. But he was also developing a tremendous freshwater system over there. He told Tony Blair, he said, look. I'm the one that's keeping all the hordes here in Africa from coming into Europe. And, of course, after they killed him and opened that up, he was very good to his, folks that were in foreign studies. If you were, like, studying in England, for example, you'd get your tuition paid. They'd pay all your rent. They'd give you so much a month, get you a car, all all that stuff right out of those oil proceeds.
And, they they didn't like any of that. He was beloved by his people. And he also gave new couples.
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Yeah. New new marriages, married couples, new child you know, having Right. Children.
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Right. I mean, there were so many different things like that that benefited the people. He was a fabulous leader, and, of course, they couldn't wait because of that to take him out. And, and, of course, as came up the other day, what was the very first thing that happened after they killed Gaddafi? I mean, the very first thing that happened?
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Central bank. Central bank before they even had a standing government. Right. Probably before
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they even got him in the ground, if they didn't cremate him or he wasn't blown up, very first thing was a Rothschild central bank. Okay? So that tells you the importance of that. I think it should, anyway. Some people probably can't see it. But, regardless, those are the things that revolve around Libyan. I still have a running, a running disagreement with a very this guy I really like in, in in Argentina. We became good friends, but he listens to this BBC and all that stuff, I guess. And he said, oh, Gaddafi was a dictator, Roger. Hitler was a dictator. Oh, Michael. Jeez. Oh, mighty.
And I've tried and tried and tried to pull him across and get him to see the other side, and he just can't do it. He was the one last time we spoke, He was telling me how, oh, dingbat over there in in Ukraine, how Putin was the dictator in invading Ukraine. I said, god, Michael. Don't you know about the Medan and the shelling of the Donbass? I just heard, right before he went on the earth's list and a little bit to judging freedom, and, judge was talking to some guy about Ukraine. They just finally got all total control of the Donbas over there, was the news he was bringing forward. And I hope Putin, honestly, would be I I just wish he'd go in there, go surround surround the big cities, Kiev, and there's another one I can't remember up in the Northwest. Surround them with military.
Tell them they got if they're civilians, they got two weeks to get out. Then they can, of course, check the people that are leaving, who they are, if they're bad guys or not. And after two weeks, just absolutely destroy the city. As much as that is a terrible thing, it's about the only way you can get rid of these guys. I'd love to see Russia take over the whole damn country because these fanatics Yeah. These fanatics want it so bad that that would that would put a big hitch in their giddy up. They want greater Israel and Europe. That's what they're looking Ukraine to be. Who is, trying to say something there?
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Yeah. Sheldon, off of what Lisa said about, child to Africa, Russia's doing the same thing. If you're newly married and you've got one or two kids
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Yeah. Well,
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countries are becoming very All kind of good stuff.
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Okay. You got a little weak connection there, Sheldon. You popped out. That's okay. Yeah. Russia a couple of years ago, Russia, Putin told all the government employees, I guess, everybody take an afternoon off and go go procreate. And you get enough kids going, they'll give you all kinds of stipends, taxes and off and and everything else. So, yeah, people are becoming aware of the, of the crush on the demographics, that every country in the world is, experiencing, I guess. So, anyway well, any new listeners or anybody that's got something to say on what we've covered so far? I'm just kinda sitting here running my mouth. I don't have remember anything. Well, yeah, I do too. Actually, I remember something from yesterday that I was very impressed with, which is, Paul, what do you know about Alligator Alcatraz?
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Alligator Alcatraz? Nothing. Yeah.
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Nothing? Nothing? Nothing? Really?
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Alligator that?
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Alligator Alcatraz.
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It's fantastic. It's one of the better ideas I've seen come out of government in quite some time. Evidently, in the middle of the Everglades for twenty plus years, they've had a landing strip there. I'm not sure what it was originally built for, but it's got a landing strip there, and it the nearest road is 60 miles. You gotta go through pythons, alligators, and mosquitoes, and no telling what all. And so what they did was they took that runway and they developed it into a camp. And DeSantis and, Trump were there yesterday, and did a press conference and everything. And now what they're gonna do is round up all these bad guys, the illegals, and they're going to take them to Alligator Alcatraz.
And, mister, DeSantis, who evidently was a JAG officer in his naval career, which I did not know. You you know what a JAG officer is? That's a legal guy. Right? Judge, advocate, general. Yeah. Right. And so, they're going to take some of the, National Guard in Florida and put their, JAG officers, and they're gonna be the courts they're gonna go through. And then they'll automatically deport them out of Alligator Alcatraz. It's very listen. There that is a brilliant idea. I guess DeSantis is the one that came up with it. And, so, yeah, that's gonna be operational pretty soon. They've, got that pretty well set up there already, and I don't know how quickly they're going to start receiving the bad guys, but it won't be long.
And then, they won't have to go into any of these article three courts that have been screwing Trump that were overturned last week in that decision anyway. But now they'll just go in. They'll get in turn. They'll get their hearing. They'll get presented with a legal officer. He'll make a decision, and most of them are bye bye. So good news. Some good news. Now Trump has caved. He's gone back. He's vacillating. He's equivocating on this, which is, whether to let the farm workers and stuff and the hotel workers and all those a lot of those businesses exist, because of the they exist with a nice profit margin because they can hire these people.
Of course, the answer is to once you pay a little more money and get Americans, they'll work if they can get a decent living wage. But, of course, we know about Bottom Line and who controls all that and the way they look at those things. But, it looks like Trump has put in a program, especially with the farmers. And now I can see his point here where if some of these farmers that have had these long term relationships with these workers ten, fifteen years, And so they're gonna go in and make the farmer or the corporation, I guess, responsible for the workers and give them a green card.
They'll pay taxes on their work, and they'll be allowed to stay and work because they're participating and they're paying taxes in. And I think the other industries will get somewhat of a similar deal. But, that seems to be what's happening there. So you had not heard about Alligator Alcatraz. It does not look, Paul, like someplace you'd probably like to spend a lot of time. But, boy, it's a really good place to put these people because then they got this it's not huge, but it's enough. I forget how many at holes. They can probably increase that somehow. But they got nowhere to go. They bring they take all of the waste out every week, and they bring fresh water in every week, I'm assuming, by boat.
And, otherwise, if someone wants to escape, they've got a minimum of 60 miles of very, very nasty critters and a miserable track to get to the nearest road. What a beautiful idea. And, of course, Trump is I've, floated earlier, the idea of rebuilding Alcatraz. That may have been what spawned this, actually. Yeah. And, he he wants to rebuild the the big Alcatraz out there in San Francisco.
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Well, really, what's what's the difference between, reviving Alcatraz Island except for it's a tourist trap right now? What's the difference between doing Alcatraz Island or Alligator Alcatraz? Alcatraz Island, you have to swim in shark infested waters. Correct. Cold. Cold. Cold. Shark infested waters. Thank you. And, Alligator Alcatraz, you you know, if you can deal with the crocs, go for it.
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No. There's pythons and all these snakes that people have brought in that they flushed down the toilet, and they've ended up in the Everglades. There's a lot of that all over, you know, the the famous one of of alien invasion in the South. Well, Paul, you used to drive your truck down there, obviously Yeah. Is, kudzu. I mean, that kudzu is unbelievable, and it was just brought into the country about a hundred years ago. Don't get me wrong. Kudzu Uh-huh. Is
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a beautiful, ornate plant that blankets both sides of the road, and it kinda gives you the feeling that you are just driving through a deep pile carpet. But the devastation it leaves in its wake by killing all the trees and everything else is just absolutely horrific.
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It is a really huge problem. Do you know that stuff grows a foot in a day? Yep. The vine that ate the South is what they like to call it. And it was, it was brought in about a hundred years ago. I think 1913 or around that. Boy, that was a bad year. But around the turn of the century last year, it was brought in. It's from somewhere. Now the beautiful part is it's edible.
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And it's pretty nutritious, I guess. All of it's edible. Pretty much all of it. The root, the stem, the leaf, everything is edible. And it's a great biomaterial
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source too. Now for those of you who've never been in the South and and have never seen this, stuff, wow. It it's just like Paul said, it just once it starts, man, it covers everything. Trees, it grows goes up these big damn pine trees, covers the whole pine tree. It's incredible what it does in this in its search for total dominance of sun with big leaves. But University of Georgia did a a big test on it when I was living up there. They said it's quite quite nutritious and tastes like spinach. Yeah. So if you haven't had your enough spinach, you can go to the South and, man, they ain't never gonna starve in the South, Paul. They got kudzu.
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Right. But but the one thing that you have to, remain conscious of is they do spray it to try and hold it back. So if you're gonna harvest wild kudzu Oh, man. You have to go 50 feet away from the road.
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Good. Good idea. Yeah. Always. Well, you just find the stuff everywhere. Of course, it's, many people, it's a curse. Maybe turn out to be a blessing. I guess, we'll just see as we go forward. There's another one of these in intrusive species like the python. That's what brought that on. And, oh, and iguanas too. Iguanas are not native to the to The US, and people have brought them over here as pets, and then they escape or turn them loose or something. And, you know, during the winter down there on the couple of winters ago when they were having really hard winter in South Florida, and they said beware of of,
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of those lizards falling out of the trees and hitting you on the head. Yep. Cold colder days, they, they just go to sleep. They they just hibernate, and they'll fall right out of the tree. Yeah. And there's there's other bugs that, like, live in pine cones down in Florida, things that, like, basically don't exist anywhere else. They're invasive. They sting like a mother and, everything else. Now, yeah, just getting back to kudzu, it would be a great cultivar. It'd be a great cultivated plant, but you cannot allow it free rein. If you cultivate it in anything but a hermetically sealed, like, IBC container with a lid, you have to protect it from rain. You have to protect it from birds because if the birds pick up the seeds and start scattering them all over your yard, before you know you have a problem, you got a big problem.
So if you're gonna be dumb enough to try and cultivate it, you have to make sure that it's undercover, it's in a greenhouse, it's in a closed container, and you have to keep it at bay. Because if one root gets out,
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one root is all it takes. You. It's an amazing plant. It really is. I forgot where it came from. Chat that Mark in all caps has his hand up, and I seen it. Who does Mark? Are you with us? Mark knows better than that. Yeah. Marcus, say hello, man. Well, where's Argh?
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Argh. It's Wednesday. I think I think he oh, no. There he is. He's back. Okay. Argh.
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Where are you, Argh?
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He must be having trouble unmuting here. Let me,
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probably changes to a man's diapers. Hey, Mark. How you doing?
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Doing okay, except for, for whatever reason, my, microphone doesn't seem to wanna work on the computer today. So Doing good, man. I'm dialing in via phone.
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Oh, okay. And,
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so I it worked fine last night. I had a Zoom call with our our trust members, and, we went over a a pretty interesting trust template. And, so I know it's working, but for whatever reason, it doesn't wanna cooperate with FCC, free conference call today. So I jumped over here on my phone so I can converse
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with you. Okay. Well, you sound good.
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And, I'm calling you people. I'm calling new people. I said with you with you people. Oh, yeah. It's a joke. Okay. With you people. You know? You you persons. You persons.
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Okay.
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That's a joke. I'm just joking, folks. I know. He's Oh, light enough.
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Mark, I was trying to recall all this stuff that's going on. I didn't know you were gonna be with us today. I know you're not as available as you were previously. And, so I'm glad to have you along today. But we were discussing alligator out there. Man. Did you, did you Yeah. I I was hearing all that. Have you not seen that on TV?
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Yeah. It's it's a stunt. It's a big political stunt. How many how many inmates escaped from a prison? How many inmates escaped from a prison?
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Well You know? These guys It's almost like they're encouraging them to try. Yeah. But It's almost like they're encouraging them to try at this point. Well, you don't have to go build big walls with Constantino wire and higher guards and all. It's just right there. It was already built. They already had the runway y'all. And it's solid as hell. Evidently, they tested it, and, they just added a few accoutrements. I don't think they've even had to add too much space to what was there. It's been there unused for twenty years or more. And I just thought What was the purpose of it to begin with? It was a a place they could fly into the middle of the Everglades if they needed to. I don't know. It's research or something, but state of Florida did it. And they just So it's more of a financial thing that they could set up real quick and Right. As these illegal immigrants. Okay. I got it. I got it. And and and got them where the nearest the nearest land is 60 miles, and they gotta go through the Everglades to get there. So I don't think we're gonna see see many of them get, escape.
So that was very cool. I just thought it was a particularly good idea. And then they're bringing in JAG officers from the National Guard to be the judges. So they don't have to fight all this article three crap anymore. Right. Right. Well, that the Supreme Court decision this week should pretty much put an end to this injunction stuff. You know? Well, it did and it didn't because it left a couple of loopholes open for them. They can do the same thing with class action, and they've already got some started evidently. And, they the the court left three loopholes for them, and that was one of them.
So they immediately started doing that. We'll see how it turns out. But anyway, I like this alligator Alcatraz, idea. I thought it was particularly brilliant. Yeah. Taking something that's already built, not being used, turning it around, and applying it to a really severe situation that, the other solutions to that situation were a lot of cost of of funds, etcetera, etcetera, new building. It takes time. This was already there, and they just converted it. And, DeSantis, good on you.
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Well, you know, the other thing, Roger, on that is that if that's, like, now considered a federal facility and maybe they're renting it from the state and it's federalized, And these illegal immigrants are deemed to be, you know, some type of, war criminal or what's the word I'm looking for, and they're pulling it over into a a a military jurisdiction.
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Well, they're invaders. It's really gonna be tough for anybody to do it. Do I? Yeah. They're invaders, aren't they? Haven't they invaded the country? They're not here legally. Yeah. Even though they were enticed in, there it was an invasion. Aren't they invaders?
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Yeah. Yeah. I just don't know how that falls into, you know, to the law stuff, but, I'm sure that that'll come out. I haven't really had time to look at it.
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I forget the act. Alien and sedition or something. It's one of those old acts from early in the country that they're, giving him gives him the power to just kick out of here, boy. But the nice thing is there's an awful lot of people that are voluntarily deporting themselves.
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A million a million is all over your with money. Yeah. Money and a free trip home. Right. Boost them a free airline ticket and a grant, and,
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then they can come back into the country legally. If they wait and get deported, they cannot take the legal route to come back. Yep. Yep. Yep. So I like the way you structured that. Well, what else? You said you had something cutting you want to talk about? Oh, yes. Very cutting.
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Yesterday, it was announced that the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled against a, native American tribal citizen. They call they refer to him as a tribal citizen, saying that, McGirt ruling doesn't apply to state taxes. So, they had initially won at the administrative law. Let me set this up first, though. For those who are not familiar with McGirt, McGirt was a criminal case where, two men from an Indian tribe got into a fight, and one killed one. One killed the other. And the state prosecuted them, and from the very get go, McGirt's, attorney said the state did not have jurisdiction, that it was a federal matter, because they were both Native American Indians.
And so that finally made it all the way up to the Supreme Court now about three or four years ago, and the Supreme Court ruled in favor of McGirt, and ruled that the the Oklahoma, the state did not have jurisdiction to prosecute him because he was on Indian land, he was an Indian, and the the victim was an Indian. So it was like, you don't have jurisdiction over this matter. And the big thing that came out of that was the state was trying to say that was their land, that the the the crime occurred on state land. And the tribes, mostly on East Of I 35 in Oklahoma, most of them never seceded their land to the state.
And so the the US Supreme Court ruled on top of of the state not having jurisdiction over McGirt, they also ruled that that land that was never succeeded to the state still belongs to the tribe, and it's created a big issue. Google, even shortly after McGirt was, ruled upon, they came out and changed the maps. If you drew up the Oklahoma map to the east, again, mostly to the East of I-thirty 5 is the general rule, you'll see tribal land and not counties per se. You still see the cities, but they're outlined inside of tribal land. So now keep that in mind, and then here comes Strobel, Alicia, Alicia Strobel, and the, oh, the the case Strobel versus Oklahoma tax commission centered around Alicia Strobel, a citizen of the Muscogee Creek nation, who wanted the state to refund her three years' worth of state taxes, state income taxes, with her attorney arguing she is exempt.
The Oklahoma tax commission argued that she should not be exempt. Struble lives in Okmulgee, a part of the Oklahoma that was reaffirmed as Indian country in 2020. Wow. Okay. Five years ago. So it was reaffirmed as Indian country in the 2020 Supreme Court case, McGirt versus Oklahoma. She's also employed by the Muskogee Creek Nation. Excuse me. Following the McGirt ruling, she filed a state tax exemption claiming her income was tribal. To qualify for the exemption, a person must be a tribal citizen living within the tribe's boundaries and working for the tribe. Well, it sounds like she meant that. The Oklahoma tax commission said was yep. Yep. Absolutely.
Excuse me. So the Oklahoma tax commission said where struggle lives is not classified as Indian country when it comes to civil matters. Something the Oklahoma supreme court agreed with on Tuesday yesterday. So they're saying the same thing. For civil matters, that Indian nation is not is is not didn't have jurisdiction. The governor Kevin Stitt, who's a twit. Oh, this didn't say that. They didn't call him a twit in the article I just did. So governor Kevin Stitt, previously spoke with the news station here about what he believes the impact could be if Struble won the case, released a statement supporting the court's decision. And so I'm not gonna read his stupid comment. Was that one gonna get appealed?
I'm sure it will. Okay. I'm sure it will. Now here's what's interesting. I I I put the links over in the chat earlier, you know, until I switched to my phone. But, excuse me, put a link to the actual ruling, Strobel versus Oklahoma tax commission. And if you scroll down through that, it it gives you a much better detail of what actually happened. It's not a terribly long decision. But, she initially won with the administrative law judge with the Oklahoma tax commission.
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Oh. And then Oklahoma appealed that.
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Oh, yeah. Oklahoma immediately asked for an what they referred to as an en banc Uh-huh. En banc hearing. Uh-huh. So they got the judge to set aside that and rule in their favor. But for the audience, an in banc hearing
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is when all of the judges at the appellate level hear the case. Usually, there's three of them that hear it, and they might have 12 judges in the in the appellate level there. But this en banc is the whole 12 would get up there and decide on this issue.
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Right. Now in this case, it happened at the Oklahoma tax commission level. So this is still the administrative law judges. So after the hearing, when struggle won, the administrative law judge recommended the commission grant the protest. In response, the division, the Oklahoma tax commission, filed an application for en banc hearing claiming the administrative law judge erred in his findings, conclusions, and recommendations. The commission held the en banc hearing, just like Roger talked about, and rendered the final order. The commission found Struble did not live in Indian country for purposes of the state income tax exemption and denied her protest.
Struble appealed, and we retained the case, and we retained the case. The Muscogee Creek Nation, Seminole Nation, Cherokee Nation, Chickasaw Nation, and Choctaw Nation filed amicus cure briefs in support of Strobel's appeal. Cool. Now it really isn't a question whether that land belongs to the tribes or not. In my mind, it just it's not even a question. They never seceded it to the state. Yeah. And the US Supreme Court in McGirt upheld that. Right. So, Roger, it it comes back to residency. And my immediate thoughts were upon
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Tricky little word. Your affidavit.
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Your affidavit. What if they wrote an affidavit? What if the Native American tribal members who live on tribal land wrote out an affidavit that said, it's my intention to be a citizen of, and then the name of their tribe, and not to be a US citizen or an Oklahoma resident.
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Well, I can tell you the case they'll fall back on on that argument. What's that? Elk v Wilkins.
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There you go.
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That just solidifies their argument. Bam. Except now, that was in 1873 or '8. I don't remember what eighteen seventies. And then it's my understanding that they made all of the Indians in The US citizens of The United States in the nineteen twenties at some point. I think that's right. Okay. Well, that gives them the out to to be nationals, and that would the elk elk would be the example.
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But their but their allegiance will belong to their tribe and not to the state of Oklahoma. Correct. See, this is this is what I'm getting at. We can take this one step further for tribal members to say it's not their intent. They don't wanna be a US citizen or a citizen of Oklahoma or a resident of the state of Oklahoma. We'll just cover all the bases there. Well And that's their intent to be a national of, in her case, it'd be the Muscogee Creek Nation tribe.
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Just these people, and then they probably don't know any of this stuff, and it's too bad. And you know, they could get to know. Pretty soon, my friend. Here. My friend, they will be learning pretty soon. Okay. So you got some connections into this?
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Yes. I do. I do. Good. Good, Mark. Well, then, you know, what we're waiting for I'm gonna print out some copies of your book and get it in the right hands. Okay. What we're really looking for here
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is this one big turn that's gonna blow this thing wide open. I think the foundation is very good and very solid. We've got a tremendous track record that's unblemished just to my knowledge. And what we're waiting for is that one big deal where the big guy goes, okay. It's time. I'm a push the door open for you. When that happens, there's no telling what this information can do. It's the way I look at it. Right.
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Right. I I think this will just really especially if it goes up to the, US Supreme Court, which I think it will. You know? Oh, man. If you They just made their decision yesterday.
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Wow. If you tag this information onto that, I wonder if they'd even accept certiori on it because they're scared to death of this issue. American Samoa has tried, k, twice to my knowledge, and they won't let it get to the Supreme Court. They won't accept it.
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Well, I don't know how they're gonna do that with with the Native Americans. That's that's gonna be a real problem. It's a really interesting well, that's really good, Mark. So,
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okay. Well, that's interesting. So the Oklahoma, even though they said that the she lives on the land, works for the tribe, and everything else, you still owe us taxes in a civil in a civil Right. Okay.
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Interesting. Yeah. They're saying it's a civil matter and and this is according to the state now, you know, self serving state decision that that even though she qualifies and meets those conditions, that it doesn't apply in civil matters. Or they're saying, excuse me, they're leaning on McGirt decision and saying that the those nations, the land, only applied if it's criminal. So the way I'm the way let me let me explain what the state is basically saying. If it's a crime and it's between Indian or involves Indian, tribal members and it's on tribal land, we can't prosecute it. And now becomes a federal issue.
But they're saying that same type of instance involving a civil matter, the state has jurisdiction over it. See how ridiculous that is?
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Let's wear both let's wear both masks. You
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you can't split jurisdiction down the middle like that for one criminal and one civil. I mean, I predict if this makes it to the Supreme Court, they'll overturn it. And and now these civil matters are also not controlled by the state. Yeah. Persona
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or
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they can't. And it should be it should be controlled by the the the tribal nation, the courts, and they all have courts. I've helped write some documents for for tribal courts. And so they they have their own court system. And I think we're gonna see a big shift if this makes it up to the supreme US Supreme Court.
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Cool. Now '35, does it run through Oklahoma, like, up from Dallas through Oklahoma City and all Yeah. North? Is that the way it is? Wichita. It goes from which yeah. It goes Wichita
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right down to Dallas.
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Dallas Fort Worth. So everything East Of 35 is Indian territory and everything West is Oklahoma.
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Pretty much. There's some overlapping like the Chickasaw. They have some area that runs a little bit West of I 35 right right around the Purcell, Oklahoma area, which is the quarter horse capital of the world. Okay. So, yeah, it's and then there's a couple of little places. This is total baloney, but that's how they got their foot in the door. The, before statehood, they declared that there were three counties that did not have did not belong to an Indian tribe, total lie, but they just declared it and nobody protested, so they got to be challenged.
Mhmm. Nobody challenged it. And so it was Canadian County, Oklahoma County, and Cleveland County, I believe. There are three counties butted up against each other. I'm sure it was over the discovery of oil that they got their foothold in. Okay? I'm positive that's the purpose. Well, there's if you if you go watch the movie, what was it called? Something of the moon, flowers of the moon, it was common where, Native American women, who owned land and mineral rights because of their tribal status, they were given all this land. And when they discovered oil, all these white men would come in and with flashing money and cars and so forth. And they would marry these native American women, and they were getting killed at a huge rate.
They're being murdered at a high rate. The women? And so the yes. Yes. The the the white men were murdering these women so they could get their rights to the minerals. Okay. They'd marry him first, then they'd kill him. And they made a big movie over it, and it was all around Oklahoma. Right. It was, actually, I think partially filled up near, Papa City or Blackwell. Uh-huh. So they they they filmed a large portions of it in Oklahoma. No. He didn't show name of that movie again, Mark, please? I wanna say it's called Flowers of the Moon or something like that.
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Killer of the flower moon, I think. Killers of the flower moon.
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I'm typing it in here. I think you may be right. We're gonna find
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this movie. Flower moon. Killers of the flower moon. Yikes.
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Yep.
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Yeah. You know who's big? It won some awards.
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Uh-huh.
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You know who knew she was looking at? Wasn't it. Was he? Yep. Is that Nancy? Hey, Nancy. Oh, yeah. It's just a couple years old too from 2023.
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You you know who ought to look into this is Kaye with her, all of her Indian romance novels.
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Yeah.
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So, by the way, if you're not novels are the number the number one book genre in the world is romance novels. Well, she's right there. Above every other book except for maybe the Bible. She said she's written, like, '29 books on this or something. She's very prolific. Wow.
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Every time I turn around, she says, she's a new book. Where'd you get time to do all this writing? But she's an expert on this. She's had to really research all these all these years, the different Indian tribes and whatnot. She's, pretty involved. So, cool. Well, we'll keep us appraised of this case. It sounds very interesting. So she's still a citizen to But she's still a citizen of The United States. Well, yeah. She is. She is. They don't know any better. Right. And then and they just they anointed them with that, I guess. Hey. Yeah. Welcome to servitude. You thought you were free on reservation. We all we all got anointed with that. Boy, we sure did. And, so, that would make her a, a a responsible for federal income tax since The United States are resident.
And, that throws that that gives the state of Oklahoma a little legitimacy on the tax thing.
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Being Well, they have an exemption, though. She's she's filing for an exemption for that. So so the three deals was you had to be a member of that native tribe. Yeah. You had to live on tribal land Yeah. And you had to have money. Your income had to come from the tribe. Okay. And she met all three criteria
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except for
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they're arguing that she doesn't live on Indian land because it's a civil matter. Now if it was the criminal, they'd say, yes. You're on tribal land because it's a civil matter. No. You don't live on tribal land. What baloney?
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Wow. Well, we mean that you need to I I I wish you'd come on and tell Brent about this on Friday. He's very, very interesting, this scenario. I've got another exception that I found recently too that I was shocked at on voluntary rights and that they can take your rights away under one set of circumstances. And I did not know this before recently, and I'll bet you don't either. It's for people that naturalize and go through the process, and they fill out forms and stuff on their backgrounds, etcetera. And, if if you have lied on that form, for example, say, are you a communist? You said no.
And they find out in the first five years that you are, they can take your rights away and deport you. And what came up with this is this mayor, guy that's running for mayor in New York City. He's he's a socialist communist. He's been in the country six years. And did he lie on on his, entry paperwork? So that's just coming up. That totally overturns well, I thought it was invioligible, but evidently, it's not. There's one instance that they can take your rights away and kick you out of the country, and you lied on your intake form, if you will.
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So I thought that was weird. If he would not have lied and said he was a socialist,
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would they let him in the country? I don't know if that's one of the barriers or not. I just know that that came up, and they said, if they find out that you've lied in five years now, here he is. He's been here six years. Uh-huh. So and he was a he was a member of either the New York, state apparatus or the New York City apparatus. He's had some sort of a position there. So did he did he lie back then? I don't know the the answers to this. I just know that came out of it, and I mentioned it the other day on Monday, I think. You had been forgetting it. And, you weren't here, I don't believe. So you didn't get to hear it. I wanted you to know about that. No. It's very interesting. Oh, Roger? Yes. We always like to hear these exceptions. Exception. Yes.
Larry, how are you doing this morning, my friend?
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Good. I have the statute right now. It's it's, under eight United States code fourteen fifty one Yes. Yes. Parenthesis a. It's called revocation of naturalization, and I'll just read the first paragraph if you want. Yeah. Says concealment of material evidence, refusal let me put my four ways off. Refusal to testify. It shall be the duty of The United States attorneys for the respective districts upon affidavit showing good cause, therefore, to institute proceedings in any district court of The United States and the judicial district in which the naturalized citizen may reside at the time of bringing suit for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship and canceling the certificate of naturalization on the ground that such order and certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation and such revocation and setting aside of the order admitting such person to citizenship and such canceling of certificate of naturalization shall be effective as of the original date of the order and certificate respect respectively, and it goes on. There's another paragraph, but Yeah. It's alright. Anyone could look that up.
Yeah. Anyone could look that up.
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Well, thank you, Larry, and that's bringing the rubber to the road. Once again, just something I've never been exposed to, Mark, either. And in this circumstances of this socialist slash communist running for mayor up there, it came to the forefront. So we do know that there are exceptions, very very slim, to the voluntariness of, of your rights. I just thought that's quite interesting. I wanted to be sure and mention it to you, Mark. Stick it in your repertoire.
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Well, that's very interesting too. And what's, now this is just an AI response, from Google. So I asked the question, can a foreigner who is a socialist qualify to be naturalized as a US citizen? And it said generally no. A foreigner who is a socialist, especially one affiliated with the communist party or other totalitarian parties is likely to face significant challenges in becoming a naturalized US citizen. US immigration law has provisions that can bar individuals based on their political affiliation, particularly those related to communism or other totalitarian ideologies.
[01:12:42] Unknown:
Damn. I wish they'd start enforcing that. I guess they just decided to run them all in under the Biden administration through the southern border. Yeah. Very interesting. A socialist qualifies for that too. Very interesting. Yeah.
[01:12:59] Unknown:
So what I was thinking, on this deal, you're saying that there was a a five year limitation?
[01:13:06] Unknown:
That's what it said. That's what I heard on the on the
[01:13:10] Unknown:
Well, one thing, it might be upon discovery. You know, he's been in this the country for six years. Right. And sometimes your statute of limitations, you got a a two year window upon discovery. And then the other thing too, I think congress should just go ahead and and do what they did to Trump, in New York City and go ahead and and amend that law toward extends for ten years and then go after him.
[01:13:38] Unknown:
Well, it's got he's got obviously, he's got the monkey shook up up there already.
[01:13:44] Unknown:
But you know what I'm saying. Right? They did they did all these they they did did all these shenanigans to try to, you know, get Trump into some legal hot water so they could even bring a lawsuit against him. Well, let's return the favor. We'd like that. Let's return the favor. Let's have congress pass a law that extends that from five years to ten years and then go after all these crooks. Boy, I'll tell you, I saw the governor in New York in one they had her,
[01:14:11] Unknown:
Pritzker, and Yeah. The other governors. I don't know. Maybe more. But they had them in front of a congressional committee, and, boy, you should have heard Marjorie Taylor Greene drill this woman. Yeah. Well, Hagen. What's her name? Something like that.
[01:14:30] Unknown:
Oh, cool. I think.
[01:14:32] Unknown:
Anyway, you get this. Upon all the publicity on this guy and the attention and his opposition, which is real weak, the guy that owns the majority of grocery stores in New York City, I guess, he's very successful, very wealthy. He said, if he's elected, I'm closing up my stores, and I'm retiring. Wow. Because one of the things he wants to do is put government stores in. Oh. So it's gonna be listen. It's a three ring circus, man. What a what a time It is. To have a sideline seat to this all these shenanigans.
[01:15:15] Unknown:
Go ahead, Mark. Hey. Hey. Roger, get your get your soda. I'll get the popcorn.
[01:15:20] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a it's time to sit back and watch the festivities. Yep. Very interesting. Now starting now hold just a second, Larry. Starting this week, now are we gonna have all these Iranian fatwa things going on? Is this weekend the kickoff weekend for the civil war? All those kind of things. Now get this. I hadn't forgotten about you, Larry. This fatwa that was issued last Saturday night, Sunday, you know about that. Right, Mark? Yeah. Yeah. It was not the head guy. It was the second guy down. Second level Ayatollah. Well, I was talking to one of the guys at lunch yesterday about this, and he goes, well, that couldn't happen because it's against Muslim law. He's pretty studied on this stuff evidently.
It's against Muslim law to to issue a fatwa that kills anybody. And so in last night, I heard somebody confirm that and say, normally, they don't, but this one did identify Netanyahu and Trump to be killed. First one, evidently. Yep. So kinda interesting. Yes. Larry, what you got, buddy?
[01:16:32] Unknown:
There was somebody before Larry. Sorry. There was somebody trying to speak, I believe, right before Larry. Oh, there was?
[01:16:40] Unknown:
Alright. Well, how's that, Larry? Kansas? We're from where, Lisa?
[01:16:45] Unknown:
Hoxie, Kansas. I think it might be Bob. I'm not sure. Okay. Bob, I'm unmuted, but I hadn't said anything. Oh, there you are. Pop up there because I might have wanted to chime in. You're all I would love to. You're on your summer trip
[01:17:00] Unknown:
back to Kansas?
[01:17:03] Unknown:
No. No. I'm sitting in a rainstorm
[01:17:07] Unknown:
in Florida. Oh, okay. That's just your phone. Okay. We got you. Yeah. So we get Yeah. Are you a Bob? Yesterday. Glad you chimed in. Are you close to, you plan on visiting Alligator, Alcatraz? Do you?
[01:17:21] Unknown:
I've been through there, but I've never stopped. You know? It didn't seem like a tourist attraction at the time. Maybe it will be now. I guess so. But, yeah, it's, it's partially in Collier County, which is, West Coast, and it's partially in, which is at either day, Broward or Palm Beach. I can't remember. I think it's Broward.
[01:17:41] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:17:42] Unknown:
But, anyway, it's right in the middle. And, yeah, it's an old, it's it's just a, opportunistic kind of thing because it's preexisting, and it's got some natural impediment to escape.
[01:17:55] Unknown:
Let's go that way. 60 miles of down road to get to the bad road? Yeah.
[01:18:01] Unknown:
No. There ain't no bad road. There ain't no road. That's right.
[01:18:04] Unknown:
Yep. It's it's, pretty pretty isolated. That'll teach you to come into the country and commit crimes, you rascal.
[01:18:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I was listening to yesterday's show last night, and, I heard Paul say something that intrigued me Ah. Concerning the commerce clause in terms of impeding commerce by requiring a Social Security number to get an I or no. No. No. Not Social Security number. Requiring you to have an ID, etcetera, etcetera. Well, in my case, it's not in my case. In the case I'm proposing, which has to do with my daughter, they're denying her a passport
[01:18:45] Unknown:
because
[01:18:46] Unknown:
Oh.
[01:18:47] Unknown:
They won't they won't pursue the application because she has to have government ID. And, of course, to get the government ID I shouldn't say of course. In fact, to get the government ID, either an ID or a pass a driver's license, she must have a Social Security number, and it's circular logic. You know, that kind of thing. Mhmm. And I have not yet she and I have not yet gotten the time to go down to Miami and, talk to the board, so to speak, the, passport agency down there, which is where we would go. Right. And I had identified multiple violations in my mind.
Of course, you always, seize on the things that plead your case. But the violation of freedom of religion, which would be first amendment, freedom of association, which would be first amendment, involuntary servitude, I e tax, thirteenth amendment. And when when, Paul brought forward that idea of requiring an ID, In his case, it was somewhat facetious, but really not. The principle is the same. You know? You're impeding I can't buy I can't buy beverages, adult beverages. You're impeding commerce by making me have an ID. It occurred to me that the commerce clause might also apply in this case in terms of having impeding the access to a passport because the whole point is to use it as the ID.
I mean, that's the that's the whole point in her getting one. And to require you to have an ID to get it, well, it's just frustrating. And I was curious if Mark had any in had could had any thoughts on that idea of the commerce clause having any bearing, you know, ID wise.
[01:20:51] Unknown:
No. Not Or is my question is my question even clear? Yeah. I think so. But, no, I don't see how the commerce clause would have anything to do with your citizenship status. I just I don't see how they're So who's given the blowback on this, Bob?
[01:21:10] Unknown:
Well, excuse me. I've got a little frog in my throat. We went to the passport agency here in town at the it's at the circuit court, or district court. Sorry. And, they would not allow my daughter to even put her, application in because she does not have a government issued ID. Oh. I had gotten one for my oldest daughter back in 2016 when she was still a minor and did it that way under my authority. My youngest daughter got one a year ago, and she got it basically by their lack of of due diligence, if you will. We didn't appreciate it until it happened to my third daughter, the middle one Right. Actually. But we used some IDs that weren't technically legitimate, and they didn't catch it. We didn't know we didn't understand that either.
She had a homeschool legal defense, ID that had been issued, and she had another couple of them that had been issued pursuant to our homeschooling and such. Okay. And my she was neither of my younger two daughters did I do when they were minors for family reasons I won't go into. And now that's come back to bite me and them because they won't I can't do that as a minor for the for them as a minor, and they're not allowing them. They, the government the passport agency is not allowing them to apply without government ID. One form of government ID.
[01:22:58] Unknown:
Right. And
[01:22:59] Unknown:
There's a workaround for that. Sure. And that's d d s zero zero seven one affidavit of identifying witness. You can get two people to verify your identity, and you don't need any state ID.
[01:23:14] Unknown:
I wish you were right. That is not correct. We've already done that. That is part I I haven't done it, but I just I saw the Well, I did we did that for my young sorry. Go ahead.
[01:23:27] Unknown:
You're you're at the wrong place. You're in a court. And and, you know, they can be little thugs there. I would find a passport agency and and then try and find out in advance, you know, explain the situation that, you know, the daughter doesn't have a state issued identification, you could even say for religious reasons is what I would say. And then what documentation do they need, and would the affidavit that you just discussed, I don't remember the form number, but would an affidavit like that from one or both parents qualify? And and then deal deal with them. Get out of your little local thuggery.
And I think you'd have a better chance at, if you reverse engineer it, find out in advance, ask the passport agency. You know, who you could send a little letter to is missus Robinson, our friend at the state department. She is the public relations officer, sent her a little deal saying, hey, we got this situation. She's also the freedom of information officer. Oh, she's a big Right. So you can send a, you you can send a freedom of information request to her. You can even do it online. And Mhmm. Just ask them, you know, hey, for religious reasons, I I didn't I do not have a state ID, but I need to apply for a passport.
What documents do I need? What other documents qualify so I can get a passport?
[01:25:01] Unknown:
Right. Well, they gave us the, phone number and such to the Miami field office, if you will, for the passport agencies. Right. The the local, establishment is the clerk of the district court. It's they don't have one at the post office, and that's where I had got Well, I'm confused. Mine
[01:25:22] Unknown:
go ahead. What I thought you said they referred you to the passport office.
[01:25:28] Unknown:
It is. Yes. It's the passport. It is. Correct. Exactly. The Hold on. US passport agency?
[01:25:35] Unknown:
It's a it's the official US passport
[01:25:39] Unknown:
agency. Right? It's extension of the To my understanding, yes. Yeah. They got it. Referring us up the food chain. They've got them in every big city in the country, I believe. Bob.
[01:25:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Bob,
[01:25:51] Unknown:
hold on. Bob, hold on. Hold on. I wanna hear the rest of what, Bob. You contacted the the Miami passport office?
[01:26:00] Unknown:
Yeah. They gave us the contact number and all. And Okay. It's our intention to pursue well, we haven't talked to them because my daughter was busy and I was busy and this and that's going on, and we're finally homing in on going down there. Okay. Of course, we'll talk to them first. But when, we had had no problem, like I say, inadvertently, they let my third daughter, my youngest Right. Slip through because they didn't even catch the idea that it was a government issued ID. Right. But she presented several, and we did the d s 71, my wife and I, which is the, affidavit of identifying witnesses, and everything went through.
And we didn't appreciate the fact that it had skated through until this past two months ago in April. And at that point, we realized that the, passport application for my third daughter, the one we did second, really got by on a technicality because they just didn't catch what had happened. Got it. Got it. And I said, well, gee. Can't you just do the same here? Can't you? Right. They said, well, now that we know it, we really can't do that. Right. Right. You know, they wore out the phone for, like, thirty minutes trying to work on some work around, and they said, no. You're just gonna have to talk to Miami because we're our hands are tied. So, anyway, that's where we're at. And when Mark Mark. Sorry. When Paul brought forward the idea of an ID, impeding the commerce clause, it just trick ticked my made my antennas wiggle a little bit I mean if that was yet another option to add to the list. But
[01:27:42] Unknown:
I got a question.
[01:27:43] Unknown:
You know, we had some issues dealing around the gun laws. The people were trying to buy guns, and they wanted some type of citizenship status or something or some type of ID. And I think they went and got what? A fishing license or something like that? So here they were able to Here's the problem. He went up to to buy something firearms,
[01:28:04] Unknown:
presented him with the passport card. The passport card does not have an address. One of their requirements from ATF is to have an address where they can check you. So he just went to the next counter and got a fishing license and brought that back, and they sold him the firearms.
[01:28:22] Unknown:
Okay. But that that fishing but that fishing license, is is that considered an I a government issued ID? Well, no. No. But it had an address on it. That was their big deal. Okay. I gotcha. Okay.
[01:28:37] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I tried. Right. Yeah. So our
[01:28:42] Unknown:
but so our big problem is with no social our big problem is with no Social Security number, they're applying some circular logic. You gotta have an ID to get the passport. And to get the passport, there's no need to have a a Social Security number to get the passport. Right. But at this point, at this age, they're past the major minor, and I have to I'm I'm out of the loop on that. So I'm just advising you may.
[01:29:11] Unknown:
Jesse's trying to say something, I think.
[01:29:14] Unknown:
Could you Hello, Jesse. Library and get a library card?
[01:29:19] Unknown:
Bob That's not considered give them an ID. Bob. That's not a government government issued ID. Not to their satisfaction, ma'am. Yes. Go ahead, Jesse. The libraries.
[01:29:30] Unknown:
Who funds the library?
[01:29:35] Unknown:
Bob, listen to me. There's there's 26 regional passport processing center. And one is Miami, another one is Atlanta, and so on. Forget about the middleman, the post office of just agent representative of the regional or the call like Mark said. You need to get you need to get the the under perjury, your Social Security that you don't have a Social Security or she doesn't have Social Security. Go through the I already have that. Okay. Go through. You can look at travel.com secondary secondary evidence. So you need one public and the one private. Your bible, get three or four affidavits of, the mother, the father, the grandparent, parents, whoever you have, their eyewitness to who she is.
And then you get some medical records or insurance and policy or anything like that that identified, like, private or or a doctor that's been treating her for years with the template in the top and sign with, whatever the the the signature or whatever they have. So with that, then you've gotta go to the regional. That number, our gatekeeper. You can hear the background. Sorry. The gatekeeper, you keep get the gatekeepers. Forget about they're gonna give you that number. It's a standard number that you'll call to make an appointment. If you don't have a fourteen days or an emergency going international flight, somebody die or something, It is almost impossible.
They're way behind the they just came a report in March of this year. They're processing center. They're not able to to, process all the numbers. The other thing you could do is go to your senator with all the papers that I just told you and represent them and not and then they will do the call for you. And there's there's a problem. 1920 I mean, 2024, they had 600,000 requests by the by the senators because they were not being processed because of incompetence of all the of all the place of all the regional, processing center. Do not go to Miami. Go go to the go to the one I don't know. Maybe one close to the Kansas City or anything that's really not too much of population and not many. I mean, Miami, there's it is jam packed. In Atlanta, jam packed. That's the only way you're gonna be able to get or you're gonna have a six month delay. And if you don't get an appointment through the, the standard number, you gotta see someone calling every day because they're not gonna give you if you don't have a emergency.
[01:32:14] Unknown:
Sorry about the background.
[01:32:16] Unknown:
Of the little, you know, my little style. That's something, Roger.
[01:32:20] Unknown:
Okay. Bob, have you you haven't talked to Miami yet. You've got their phone number, and you haven't yet had a direct conversation with them. Right? That's correct. That's correct. We just won't tell you because we had things going on. I'd at least call them and find out what they suggest before we go through all this stuff and all these other things. There may be a simple solution. You're gonna have to talk to them. Well, there's no harm in talking to them.
[01:32:45] Unknown:
I just like I say, it just it tickled my ears when Paul Paul brought up the Commerce Clause. Like I say, I've already got First Amendment violations, freedom of religion, freedom of association, involuntary servitude, I. E, thirteenth amendment tax, etcetera.
[01:33:01] Unknown:
But maybe I'm just gonna ask, is there a problem with her getting a Social Security number?
[01:33:09] Unknown:
Well, fundamentally opposed to it. Other than that, no.
[01:33:13] Unknown:
Okay. I mean, it's no jurisdictional nexus or anything. I can understand that, but I'm just saying,
[01:33:19] Unknown:
because that would allow you No. It's just an evil system. I didn't I didn't invest, you know, x number of years not not getting child tax credits and all that just to have them succumb and get it and bow into the oak. I have no interest in it. Neither do they. You've been a long time listener. We've developed a relationship. I understand your position. I was just asking.
[01:33:41] Unknown:
One of the reasons that they do require I mean, y'all you probably heard of this before. There is a requirement to have a Social Security number and a passport. And if you send one in without one, it's my information. They won't issue you a passport. Okay? Now the reasons for that are pretty valid, really,
[01:34:00] Unknown:
or at least half the Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. You're saying if you have a card if you have a if they have issued you a number, you have to submit it. No. That's not what I'm well, you gotta have a number. The reason for that is because of people
[01:34:17] Unknown:
leaving the country with huge IRS debts. So if you've got over $50,000 in collections, it's gotta be in collections. They won't issue you a passport, and they if you've got one, they can nullify it no matter where you are in the world. When they kicked that law in a couple of years ago, it seems like I heard that they revoked, 250,000 passports around the world. I know a guy in Argentina that was in that that situation. The other one is totally legitimate. Yeah. And it wouldn't apply to your daughter. But, it's for men Well, and not only that. Well, hold on. Let me just finish. This for these guys that go around impregnate all these women and then bolt out on their child support requirements and obligations. And if that happens, they won't issue you one either unless you're out of the country. And if you are, they'll issue you a passport, but it's only one way.
Okay? That's the only one I know. Hold on. Bob's got something to say. Go ahead, Bob.
[01:35:23] Unknown:
Yeah. When my daughter now this was nine years ago. My my oldest daughter, no ID no, no, Social Security number. All zeros, no problem. Of course, that's sometime back. But just last year, May, My youngest daughter, same deal. And, of course, it got through on the technicality of the ID, but all zeros because she never had one. We did submit the paper that says, you know, Social Security Administration acknowledges this individual has never had an account with us. So Undercam. It's you don't need a Social Security number to get a passport. If you have one, you must submit it.
Okay.
[01:36:12] Unknown:
Bob Right. I could speak Right. I could speak free freely now. Mark put right now, I think it was Mark, the secondary evidence you need. Trust me. I've been going through all this. I have one child that is not getting a password because I went through the local and regional, and it's already almost two years, and we haven't gotten it. And I have a locator number. And I have I've been to Atlanta. I've been to other things, and they cannot process it because it got it fell in the crack, and I don't receive no news from them. The other ones, I just went straight to one of the regional office and without no middle man, and I got them, all of them, with the application, with no Social Security, and, and just with three or four affidavit. You only need two. But I did it three or four. I went with extra and with medical rig and all. And the only thing you need to prepare yourself, and you call that number that, Roger or somebody else said, call them to see if you're able to get an appointment.
And you used to be able to walk in any of the regionals, but now you're not after COVID. I think the only one you're might be able to walk is some in the Midwest or Arizona. But the rest, you cannot do it. Maybe, I think Yeah. Texas. The reason I'm telling you to go go into the for example, in Michigan, I think there's one in Cincinnati, is that there's not too many people walking, so you might be able to go in. But this regional in the Northeast, you're not able to get and you will resolve all because nobody knows. One of the regional process center I went, they said, oh, you went through the secondary.
Yeah. We we have very few nationals doing that. So they understood everything. But the rest local ones, they do not understand the process. And you get one they wanna bully you or don't doesn't wanna go through it, like in your case, it seems so, you're gonna have trouble.
[01:38:04] Unknown:
They they they do understand. They just wanna make money off you.
[01:38:08] Unknown:
And Why? Josie
[01:38:10] Unknown:
Josie is another person, that is Josie's daughter that got her a passport without a social. And I was gonna mention, like, what, Jesse just said. Remember Harvey put in affidavits as proof of fact of of them knowing them. So you can use that, Bob, and go to a less busy, office like what Jesse's saying. Why are the I think you'll have better results. Why are the passport offices so overwhelmed all of a sudden
[01:38:40] Unknown:
in those areas when they're not in the others? National illegal migrants or what?
[01:38:47] Unknown:
I gave a report the other day in March. They're having a problem with personnel. When they recruit new guys, they're processing it. Much less, they're thinking of building under Biden six new, regional processing center. And the problem is when they bring the manager to do so, now you're taking them from one area trying to process another thing. When they get delayed with they got all the all this applications. So supposedly, when it passes six months and now they're gonna get to yours, to the one that are behind nine months, ten, twelve, now they can't process because they have a six month older than six month old picture. So now they have to send it back, and they're having chaos over the place. So now Dodge or something, they're going in there. They did a a presentation in front of the senator, and I don't know what's gonna happen. And I fell in a crack on one of those. In my case, in Arizona, it's one of the worst one when we did it in the state of Florida, and they sent mice over there. But the one that went to New Hampshire, Florida, and other areas, no problem. So but in the case of Bob, if something's incompetent, they're not accepting it. And I noticed that when I went to regular agencies, nobody knew nothing. It's not so much about money. I gave them the paper. I gave them the law. I gave them nobody knew nothing. And I was even willing to pay extra to do it. So once I found out and my problem now, when I go to the regional I mean, process center, they cannot go ahead with mines. It's like you have all the papers, but it has to be canceled from the original one or they have to process it. And I don't receive no answer because supposedly, two of the processing center told me the worst of the 26 is the Arizona and one in Texas. And we failed on that. But in the case of Bob, he just needs to go to one of those regional, process center.
[01:40:40] Unknown:
I would first thing you need to do yes. You may in just a second. Bob, first thing you need to do is contact the phone number and see what they say, see if they'll hear your case on the phone or make you an appointment, or you don't have to wait. Seem because we don't know. Where all this speculation, all this other stuff, we don't know what they're gonna tell you. Hold on just a second, Paul. There was a lady trying to say something. Yes, ma'am?
[01:41:06] Unknown:
This is Pam on Michigan. So they're requesting a Social Security number, and isn't that pretty much what we've all learned is a trust? So would that be also a that is nine digits long, like a EIN number? I yield. Okay.
[01:41:32] Unknown:
That's that I put zeros on mine years ago, but that that all these things had not happened. They had not passed those laws about the requirements of SSN, etcetera. Bob, I think you need to first off find call Miami and see what they say, and and and then we can discuss options, it would seem.
[01:41:54] Unknown:
Roger said No. No. No. Waheed, you're waiting. I've been trying to get in here for twenty minutes, Waheed. Don't even think about it. Yeah. Go ahead, Paul. What do you got? Alright. The problem the principal problem that I have with the Social Security number and the driver's license and the vehicle registration and all that, that the Supreme Court has already ruled that or issued the opinion that they cannot take a natural right and force you to get a license to do it and charge a fee for it. And that is exactly what a state ID or a driver's license or a Social Security card or whatever that is forcing you to do something against your will just to be able to exist in the situation in the construct they created.
So it is still a violation of your natural rights. It is still interfering with your ability to engage in commerce because, hello, ladies and gentlemen, the ability to trade is a god given right. They cannot deny you that unless you apply for a license and pay a fee for it. They can't do it.
[01:43:16] Unknown:
If I may.
[01:43:18] Unknown:
Hold it, Dave. You can't. Waheed had already inserted his foot in the door. Waheed, what have you got for us?
[01:43:29] Unknown:
And it better be on topic.
[01:43:34] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Here I am. Here I am. Okay. Now I caught the tail end of it. And what I wanna know is you were saying, Roger Sales, that when you originally did it, all you put down was zero zero zero for your Social Security number? Yes. Or It might have been I don't remember. Okay. And when what's the difference now? Can can I do what you did? Can't we do what you did No. You can't. Back whenever you did it? No. You can't. Because they passed a law that you've gotta have a Social Security number on your application for a passport if they wanna find out and make sure you don't have over 50,000 in collections with IRS or that you don't have two or three kids popping around that you're not being a proper daddy for. Those two things. That's why the requirement's there.
[01:44:23] Unknown:
Well, that end, if you have and I got mine years ago. That end, if you have been issued a Social Security number, putting anything else on the application, but your issued number would be lying on an application.
[01:44:38] Unknown:
And you do not wanna commit passport fraud. I'm promising you. But you said you said that you put 000. Yes. That was in 02/2007, Wahid.
[01:44:53] Unknown:
Things have changed. That's the point. This is a new day. This is a new year. Welcome to today, Wahid. I guess. Okay.
[01:45:01] Unknown:
Bob, call my end. I'll find out what they say, then we can come back and have the a little more of an intelligent conversation. We're just shooting in the dark now.
[01:45:10] Unknown:
Do you have any Actually, I didn't even call in for all of this help. I was just strictly after Mark's opinion on the Commerce Clause, and it just kinda took on a life of its own. Okay. Alright. There's a female trying to say it all. There's a big man. Discussion. I appreciate it. Who's the female? Look at the
[01:45:27] Unknown:
I think that's Mer. Look at the look at the look at the intravel.com, and it says it clearly. You can't provide a primary photo ID and lack sufficient secondary ID. You can have someone who missed the requirement for identifying witness vouch for you, passport application form d s 71.
[01:45:49] Unknown:
It's already done it. They want more. That's what I'm trying to get across.
[01:45:53] Unknown:
Do you remember Harvey? How many did he do? 30. Seven.
[01:45:57] Unknown:
30 or something.
[01:45:59] Unknown:
Okay. But and they were asking him. There was no problem on a Social Security number with Harvey. It was they took this, that they've taken with a couple of people, not many, of writing back and say, well, we're uncertain. We need, six more pieces of identification. So what Harvey did was he took he had a friend that's a printer. He took a picture that he was gonna submit as his passport picture, and he put that, and they printed a piece of paper with that picture at the top. And the statement was, I know the above pictured person for so many years or whatever. Well, hell, his his older brother, Charlie, has got 15 kids and 45 grandchildren.
He didn't have to go much further in Charlie's house. But they he sent in about 30 of them, and they, boom, popped his passport right back to him. But it wasn't one of these problems. It was one of these unusual letters where they want more in six other, areas of ID. High school yearbook, etcetera, etcetera.
[01:47:04] Unknown:
What it sounds like to me is that passport before.
[01:47:08] Unknown:
Yes. You got a passport before you had to get one to go to Vietnam.
[01:47:13] Unknown:
What it sounds like to me, Bob, is that you went to the wrong passport office, so you talked to the wrong agent. Go to a different office. You might have a different passport office. He was at the district court
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because in his town, they don't have an authorized agent at the post office.
[01:47:29] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then go to a passport office. That is, in fact, the passport office in Okeechobee, Florida. There you go. So go to a different one.
[01:47:42] Unknown:
Bob, talk to Miami and and and then come back, and we can have this, extra discussion. But I appreciate you taking yes. Oh, look who showed up here. Julie.
[01:47:56] Unknown:
Sorry. I showed up in the after show yesterday. I didn't know you had a question for me yesterday, and I don't know what it was because I Well, I don't I had to relisten to the show this morning. Well, this is the next day, and I'm old, and I don't remember what it was. I sent you an long email about Marjorie.
[01:48:14] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I saw that. Yeah. I disagree with you. I like her. So
[01:48:20] Unknown:
I know.
[01:48:22] Unknown:
It's jeez. What what's that Did did you watch it? Have you hold it. Have you watched the interview with Tucker?
[01:48:29] Unknown:
Yes. But I don't like Tucker. I don't like Tucker either. So you keep asking me who I like, and I have a lot of, information about these people. Okay. So, they're all bad. They're all bought off. They're all black.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
Okay. She she didn't go to Israel. She doesn't take any APAC money, but she's bought off, and she's bad. Okay.
[01:48:51] Unknown:
Yep. She is. She's got money from Peter Thiel.
[01:48:55] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
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And and I can prove to you that her campaign was financed by him.
[01:49:04] Unknown:
Okay. Well, she's got the biggest amount of contributors from small donors in in congress. So, I think she probably will defer well, she may defer more to them than to him. I don't know the specifics.
[01:49:18] Unknown:
I like her. Okay? So go ahead. Okay. You can like her. I didn't tell you not to, but I wanted to ask, what was the name of that what was the name of that form on a state, travel site for the affidavit of identity? I'd just like to take a look at it.
[01:49:32] Unknown:
71.
[01:49:33] Unknown:
DS71. Thank you. Thank you very much. Affidavit of identifying witness. Okay. Thank you. Cool. Yep. Okay.
[01:49:42] Unknown:
Julie, let me ask you. Who do you like up there?
[01:49:47] Unknown:
Very few. Very, very few. That's why I'm asking you. Because well, Roger, this is my opinion, and we can agree to disagree. In order to get selected, because we don't have elections. In order to get selected, you have to be compromised. And I'm talking about the people with major cabinet roles. I'm not talking about I mean, there's 535 people up there, the little teeny people who are newbies and stuff. I'm not suggesting that they're compromised. I'm talking about the people who are on the committees who make the major decisions. Oh, yeah. They can't. They don't get there. They don't get to those committees unless they're compromised. I pretty much agree with you. Right. And so I'm talking about people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and all the other people who have significant, decision making authority and significant power over people who they actually bring onto their committees.
I mean, I've read too many books on this and seen too many things go, and I've got so many facts that Okay. Let me ask you a question.
[01:50:45] Unknown:
Since Peter Thiel financed her, why didn't they give her a committee for the first two years?
[01:50:52] Unknown:
Because you have to when you're first on these things, you gotta first be shown that you can comply and that you can be controlled before you get your power.
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Okay. Well, that's what I said. They wouldn't give her a committee for two years. They never even asked her to go on the Israeli trip with all the rest of her sin her her newly elected people in that term. They didn't even ask her. They didn't even issue the invitation. So that that's where I probably did this. He gave her money. She's corrupt. That's where I have problems with that kind of stuff.
[01:51:25] Unknown:
K. But it's more than just giving her money. It's all of the laws that it's all of her her, rhetoric that she tells everybody, on tele live vision and then what she does behind her behind back, behind people's back. She's got deep contract with she's now responsible for giving contracts out to Palantir. And, Palantir's CEO, Alex Karp, has privately met with her on many occasions, coordinating her position and all of that stuff and and and and to advance the agenda of domestic surveillance and social control. She purchased Palantir stock in April of twenty twenty five, which I have proof of right before the company secured a $30,000,000 ICE contract and she made $500,000 in profits off of that funneled through a Delaware LLC to obscure its origins.
So I've got lots I mean, I have books on these people, Roger. And like I said, we can agree to this grief, and this is what's so great about this, though. Alright. Julie, let me ask you this. Who do you think ought to be up there? How do they get up there? I don't have a worked with. The whole entire, shenanigans here has to be changed first on how people are elected.
[01:52:48] Unknown:
And it has to be one day, and it has to be watermark paper ballots. Right. And it cannot be anything electronic. She is. And we had sent all of the She has just, issued a bill on elections that if it goes through, they won't be able to steal any of them anymore. So how about that?
[01:53:05] Unknown:
Well, and that's that's not just that. I mean, it's not just the paper ballots and the watermark ballots. The way you cannot have these tabulator machines, these electronic tabulator machines and all of that stuff. So Okay. You know, all I know, Roger, is that her she just like everybody else who has power in Washington, DC, her little puny salary that she had when she was there has she's grown into worth, you know, 11 plus million dollars at work.
[01:53:34] Unknown:
She her father had started a construction company in Atlanta called Taylor Construction. That, Roger. That's what she is. That, and I know her. You just accused her of taking money to run. She's got her own fortune. That's what I'm trying to tell you. She didn't have that fortune before, and that construction company got government contracts thanks to her position. Whoop. She married a guy, Taylor. It's Taylor Construction. I But they're her family started that. And guess what? When she graduated from University of Georgia, she bought the company from her parents. They didn't give it to her.
[01:54:12] Unknown:
I understand that, but there's more to it than that, Roger. There's a lot more to what how her company garnered,
[01:54:18] Unknown:
contracts from the government and see what they're talking. Well, I I I don't know in Julie's world who how the hell the the world's gonna run because everybody's crooked.
[01:54:29] Unknown:
Well, it that's what my that's what my final conclusion is. Roger, we have not had proper elections, before we were born. These things have all been rigged, and it's all for the one world order for global communism. I don't necessarily. That's fine.
[01:54:44] Unknown:
Why are they gonna prime if if she's one of theirs, why are they gonna prime area this primary or this time around? I just disagree with you. Okay? So, yeah, those people might have all that. That doesn't mean that she's got bad intentions and doesn't mean that her voting record health she's the one that came out and said the anti Semite thing was the twenty second one of those that have come across the house since she's been up there in six years. And she said, I voted no on this one and present on the other one or vice versa or whatever. I just disagree with you, Julie. You gotta have somebody up there. At some point, you gotta trust somebody.
[01:55:24] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm just telling you, I don't trust any of them, and we can agree to disagree. Good enough.
[01:55:34] Unknown:
So you got anything else to add on that?
[01:55:39] Unknown:
Do we just go dark? No. That's why I'm gonna read the whole entire book that I have here of all of her criminal activities and treatment behaviors that she's been Okay. Well, I'm wondering I'm wondering why if it's so egregious that they don't bring out those things against her ever in public because they don't.
[01:55:56] Unknown:
Because they're all black males, Roger. And if she brings out something, somebody brings something out about her, she can bring something out out about somebody else. Alright, Julie. What was your other point? You wanted to ask about the affidavit or what? Because we can sit here and disagree with each other all day long on this. What about Massey? You like Massey?
[01:56:13] Unknown:
You dislike Massey too? Well, I was gonna tell you out of all the people, if I had to pick one person, it would be Massey who I would select.
[01:56:20] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
Gotcha. Somebody who could potentially be good. But, no, I wanted to know about the, DS 71 affidavit of identifying a witness. I just thought, I know that is not applicable in his circumstance, but something like that could be applicable in some other circumstance. You could use that form and maybe tailor it or revise it or write your own for an another scenario that you might need that for. Okay. Fair enough.
[01:56:48] Unknown:
Samuel, is that you trying to get in?
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to mention that little thing in the constitution. In order order to supposedly to tax us, we're supposed to be represented. We're supposed to have a congressman for every 30,000 people, and it's more like 750 to a million. Yep.
[01:57:09] Unknown:
Yep. They hadn't, straightened that out yet. And and
[01:57:13] Unknown:
one guy proposed that in the day of the computer, there's no reason for these people to go to Washington DC. So their argument about the seats and everything there and having to expand the institutions physically, It's a bunch of crap. They should be at home in our communities, you know, surrounded by people and do what we want them to do. Not go there and get thrown into this place that even if they go in with good intentions, doesn't last very long.
[01:57:46] Unknown:
No. That's probably true. Keep them at home,
[01:57:48] Unknown:
one for every 30,000. I think that would be a good start. You gotta be out. I think,
[01:57:54] Unknown:
isn't Marjorie and Massey the only two people in congress that don't have an APAC affiliate guy in their office? That's what they say. I think that's true. Yep. No? Okay.
[01:58:08] Unknown:
Hey, Raj.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, sir. Right at the end of the program.
[01:58:15] Unknown:
Okay. This will be quick. I I had a question about,
[01:58:19] Unknown:
I'm completing the DS 11 for my son. He's five years old. I wish I wish you to come in earlier. I will write at the end of the show. We hold over. Go ahead.
[01:58:30] Unknown:
Okay. So the question is, see, my wife and I, we we have, affidavits of citizenship evidence on file with the state department. Yeah. So I wanna include those with with the application for my son. Yeah. So I marked on the DS 11 that we are not US citizens. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. So yeah. Yeah. I just wanna make sure that, you know, you're putting the affidavit in the program. Okay. Exactly. Yeah. And then, also, I'm just wondering where in the d s 11 it states that you can submit,
[01:59:08] Unknown:
supporting docu documentation. I I went through the whole thing. I I don't see Well, it's in it said if you go down to where the oath is and they've changed the passport and it says the I agree to these. There's four checkboxes, I think, maybe five. Do you see there are statements? Make And it said oh, hold it. Hold it. Well, the last one says I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions. Do you see that one? No. But I'll I'll take a look now that I know. Well, it's somewhere in the middle of it used to be on the very top of the first page years ago. They've hidden it more now. It's what's called Yeah. I don't know if it's because it's it's for a minor that I don't see it. Doesn't make any difference. Pass I don't think there's a pass Okay. Is there a specific passport application for a minor? I think they're all the same. No. Not that I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Well, what you're looking for Yeah. I'll take a look. Alright. Hold on. In the instructions or in the oath, it's gotta say that somewhere.
I they're changing those things around. I don't see them on a regular basis. But somewhere, it's got because they've added that since I started teaching this stuff. It didn't used to be in there. And they get you to agree before you sign that you've read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions. That's one of the four or five they've got on there. If it's not there, they're phrasing it in a different way. Just go through the instructions, and you'll see do you know what a black box warning is?
[02:00:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I've I've heard of that before. Okay. Well, it's big bold letters, warning.
[02:00:49] Unknown:
And it says you can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits, comma. But you better not Yeah. I I just don't wanna get there and then argue with the guy and say, oh, you can't submit this affidavit. We'll find that. So I just wanna make sure. Find that and point him to it. We've had instances where that happened. The clerk wouldn't wouldn't do it. And the person, I think it was Princess out in California, asked him for, the supervisor. And the supervisor came down and said you couldn't do it. So all these post office employees that are authorized agents, though they may not all have taken the same training or pursued it the same way.
But that's in there. Yeah. Yeah. I I see where it is. Okay. I don't know all the other stuff. They change it. They've changed all this, but that's where the rubber meets the road. It's pointing there.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you for your help. And if they say no Roger, sir.
[02:01:42] Unknown:
Hold on. If they say no, you ask them for a supervisor. And if that doesn't work, you ask them what's the next step in my administrative appeal.
[02:01:56] Unknown:
Okay. No. I I've done it before for my other son, but, now I'm renewing my five year old. So Okay.
[02:02:03] Unknown:
I did you know, I just don't do these passports every day. So it's not gonna be that. Boy, I certainly understand that. Doing about once every ten years. Now what is it? Once every five years for a minor or three or something?
[02:02:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's every five. But Okay. You can't renew. You you have to fill out another DSI. Another. You have to go do another I don't understand why if the miner already has a passcode. Probably because they're minors,
[02:02:30] Unknown:
and you're having to do it for them. I don't know all the intricacies, but that'd be my guess. Who was trying to say something there a second ago?
[02:02:38] Unknown:
Yes. Keep the gentleman on. This is Sheldon. I'm holding one as we speak. It's new. It's fresh. You open up the application. To the right is page four of four. At the very top, it says application for US passport. There's a little tan bar that says warning. False statements made knowingly and willfully in passport applications, including affidavits or other documents submitted to this application are punishable by fine and or imprisonment under US yada yada. Yeah. So it says right there that you can include documents and affidavits undone. Yeah. It's funny. They don't tell you why to include them, do they?
[02:03:25] Unknown:
Nope. Nope. So, also, whoever it was, I don't know your name there. But also remember Dan. Dan. Hey, Dan. Also remember that that same warning box is in a DS 82. So the question becomes, why would they have it in both original and renewal? Because it's the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time. That's why. They have to. Alright. Good. So Well, good. I don't think we have any problem. Go ahead, Shannon.
[02:04:08] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I've got a fresh 82 here, and I'm comparing them. They are exactly the same. Yep.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Yep. So, okay. Anybody else got something for me here? Yeah. Well, they're the same exception numbers at the top. I would go after her. I forgot about you. You're on the back burner. I I think you boiled over by now.
[02:04:31] Unknown:
Yes. Anyway, when was that law passed about the the passport and the Social Security number? Because all four of us here, plus three of our friends did in 2018,
[02:04:44] Unknown:
we did all zeros here. After that. It was after that. It was probably After that. I don't remember, honestly, but, it may have been back when Obama two
[02:04:56] Unknown:
require a a social, the renewal?
[02:05:02] Unknown:
I don't know, do you? I don't know. Okay. I don't. Alright.
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That's all I had. We did it in 2018 with all zeros and got them right away. So Well,
[02:05:15] Unknown:
I don't know when that kicked in. It's been fairly recently. I'm not sure what fairly qualifies as.
[02:05:22] Unknown:
You're right. Okay. Thanks, Scott. But,
[02:05:25] Unknown:
that's the reason it's in there. Okay. Who who else got something for me? Mark, you still with us? Did you take off?
[02:05:36] Unknown:
Mark wants to take it off. Good. Good information on the Oklahoma I'm here. I just had to get to my Okay. Unmute. Alright, buddy. Well, you got any working in the background. Okay. You got any No. That's pretty much it. You know, if I if I sounded very enthusiastic today, it's because I'm running on methylene blue There you go. And not just your normal methylene blue. It's super methylene blue. You got it from Alex? You know who.
[02:06:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I would love to compare some of that to the the stuff that I get because I think ours is diluted a lot. I'd I'd love to get some of that you got. Okay. Well, Mark, we'll see you, maybe Saturday. You like to come on Wednesdays and Saturdays? So, Yeah. If the Lorde cherries and the creeks don't rise, I'll be there on Saturday. You, if you want, you got a a chance, you might pop in on Friday and explain that Oklahoma case to Brent. I think he'd find it real interesting. So, and if not, no problem. I'm trying to convey it to you. July 4, so I don't know. Is are you guys gonna be on July 4? Well, I think we are, actually. We usually are. And and it's, it's, and I I almost you know, Skype is screwing up. That was how Brent and I communicated.
[02:06:55] Unknown:
So, I've got Roger, I've I've got my hands really full. I've got a emergency situation, and I'm helping somebody. And so So you may not be able to probably even be on Saturday. Now that I think about it Uh-huh. Probably
[02:07:10] Unknown:
won't be able to be on this Saturday. Okay. Heck, we ought to take a weekend and all of us just take a couple of days off. That's still an option. So I can't yeah. Thank you, Mark. And we'll going into another one of these big holiday weekends. Yes, Paul?
[02:07:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I have a sneaking suspicion what emergency thing he's working on and, for all intents and purposes, he is actually on a mission from God. That's that's the way I think. Anyways,
[02:07:38] Unknown:
That's what I always said. Yeah. I have been,
[02:07:43] Unknown:
I have been in contact with Francine and with Brent, and we've pretty much got all of the, preparations for Brent's trust course and our group nailed down. We nailed down a cost for participation. It is a twelve week course. We're initially only doing the one on the essential elements of a trust and how to draft one. There is another course that he has that is the biblical basis for a trust, and what we figured would be good would be to allow people to, opt in to that one if they wanted to do that one at a later time. The, the cost per person is $30.
It is twelve weeks, and, the way it'll work is, I believe, on
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up Where'd the music come from?
[02:08:41] Unknown:
But it's coming from somebody that put us on hold, and they're still unmuted. Ah. There. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Some cell providers provide, elevator music when you put a call on hold. So it just irritates the the living stink out of me when when people do that. So, anyways, like I said, it's $30 a person. It's twelve week course, and we're looking at potentially, eight or 9PM eastern time on a Wednesday evening. It will be a Zoom meeting where, we're slating two hours for it. We'll be using my Zoom conference. We'll be playing the prerecorded, trust course video for that week, and then we will have, thirty minutes at the end for, discussions, questions, and answers, things like that. And I'm hoping that I can get Brent to check into those thirty minute afters afterwards so he can get the questions and and perhaps write answers that would be sent out to all group participants via email.
So, like, on a weekly basis. We're trying to get that in the can, and we're looking at about, oh, maybe the second week in, well, I'm hoping for the second week in this month, or it'll be, like, or very early in August where we'll be getting started with that. People will, they will have an invitation to the Zoom meeting once a week. They will have access to the recording of the Zoom meeting, and they will also have access to the course materials on commonlawyer.com if they want to, jump ahead. So, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a gonna be a great deal.
[02:10:42] Unknown:
I would really heavily endorse people taking this course. You know, even with my background, Brent, ever so often lays down a nugget that I, you know, didn't know about. The last one that he did, and I was like, finally, somebody could make sense of it to me, was on jurisdiction in the court as far as being able to blend multiple jurisdictions because I was under the wrong impression that you could only have one jurisdiction in a court at a time, and that's not true. Uh-huh. Yep. So you specifically identify the one you're defending. Right. Well, you could have more than one. You could have one that's common law, and you could have one that's equity law. So they could all be in the same courtroom at the same time and under the same case. Mark, did you hear what Barnes said about equity and chancellors and stuff Sunday night? We played it. But I just wanna encourage everybody.
Okay. I just wanna encourage everybody at at that just amazing prize, please sign up and take Brett's course. I just I highly recommend it. Okay. You know? Yeah. You just know. So you're gonna get a really good foothold on the basics of a trust, and most people have no clue how trust operates. No. And so, you know, if if if I'm able to, I'd like to sign up for that class too. Just so if there's something, you know, that that I've not been taught, something might be, you know, I'm unaware of, then, you know, Brent's got a lot more experience than I do. Yeah. As far as in the legal world. I mean, and he and he is an attorney. So Andy Andy is his specialty. He is specialized in trust. Yeah. So Right. Well, how do we sign up? All all y'all How do we sign up?
[02:12:33] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Robbie, hang on a second. Paul Paul will announce it. Yeah. Yeah. I will announce it. Send an email to me. It is p g b I e n e r. It's papa golf beaner, just like wienerwithab,@gmail.com. Just put in, trust, in the subject line, and then I will move that email off to a folder where I have all those emails of the people that have expressed interest. I'm going to be creating a, bulk email, with all of the the information and details on how to, how to sign up, how to pay for the program. We worked out how to, process the payments directly on commonlawyer.com so there it doesn't have to be anybody sending money to me.
It's all on on commonlawyer.com, and you just put in the $30. And, well, basically, you go to commonlawyer.com. You go to the donation link. You put in $30. You put in your name and your email address, and then you click submit, you process your payment, then you send a follow-up email to [email protected], and the link is right there, right on the page, right in front of you, saying, hello. This is me. I just paid for the, Radio Ranch trust course. Please add my name to the list. And then you'll be added to the Excel spreadsheet where where all the people are are noted, and you're in. That's it. It's it's just that easy.
[02:14:15] Unknown:
And for all the listeners, you might tell your Patriot friends that, we've got we've cornered the trust market, it appears here, between Mark and Brent. You'll get honest straightforward information, and, there's not a lot of people I don't think that are offering something like that that's totally legit. So heads up heads up. And one more comment.
[02:14:38] Unknown:
I wanna make sure that I add. I wanna make sure that I add. There are two different trust courses. Mark has a trust course, and Brent has a trust course. Brent's course is typically a $175 if you do it as an individual, because I got a group discount on as many people as we can, spank in there. It's $30 a head. Now it's more affordable, than Mark's course. However, that doesn't mean that Mark's course is not a good deal because from what he offers in his course first of all, you sign up for one course, you not only have access to all of the prerecorded courses previous to that, but you're welcome to sit in on any subsequent courses after that, when he does the trust course. He he provides reasonable one on one, tutelage with it.
It there's templates, to give you, like, a starting point. His is an absolute steal.
[02:15:43] Unknown:
It's just more costly. That's the only difference Yeah. Between the two courses. If you don't believe it, go to an attorney and ask them what they're gonna charge you, and
[02:15:52] Unknown:
you don't always know what you're getting there. Well, I just wanna make sure that everybody knows that I am not dissing Mark's course or Mark not in any way, shape, or form. It's just that there are, people that just can't afford his. And, it is my hope that they will find some way to be able to afford his in the future and take both of them. It couldn't hurt.
[02:16:17] Unknown:
So Alright. Yeah. Thank thank you, Paul. Paul that. And I really would just wanna encourage people if you're being held back because of price right now, and it's understandable, please take Brent's course for $30. It's just you just can't beat that. I don't think you're gonna be with a stick anywhere. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Ideal.
[02:16:39] Unknown:
We've got room for a 100 seats in Zoom. So, we got so come on down. Yes.
[02:16:47] Unknown:
PayPal, can we do the payment already, or we have to wait for you to set them up? No. You can do the payment now if you want. Just go on commonlawyer.com,
[02:16:58] Unknown:
click the donation link, and put in $30 says the cost. Put in your name and your email address, and then process that payment, and then send a follow-up email to [email protected] with your name and your email address, and that that payment was for the Radio Ranch Trust course.
[02:17:24] Unknown:
Yeah. And then you will be put on the list. One more question. Yeah. You you gonna send an email with all that information to the people that send you an email, the one that to take the class? Yeah. I can do that.
[02:17:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I will be doing that. Like I said, I'll be setting up a I'll be setting up a bulk email to everybody that has sent me an email expressing interest on exactly how to sign up for it. And it's it's gonna be a week or two before we've got things running. I've got some other things that I gotta deal with. But when we hit the ground running, I'm expecting it'll be sometime between eight or 9PM eastern on a Wednesday evening, because that seems to be the the least interfering with the other things going on, like the the Republic meetings and the Radio Ranch and Paul English Live and Well and all that.
[02:18:21] Unknown:
We're in the day. Yes.
[02:18:23] Unknown:
So, Julie.
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Julie.
[02:18:27] Unknown:
Yeah, Julie.
[02:18:28] Unknown:
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I yield. Alright. Thank you, Julie.
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Roger?
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Yes. Yes, sir.
[02:20:00] Unknown:
It's Roger. It's Robbie. That's Robbie. Yes, sir.
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Yes, ma'am. Sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Robbie?
[02:20:09] Unknown:
It's okay. I came in late today, but I was wondering, did you, Roger, or anyone else hear the incredible debate last night between Nick Fuentes Heard pardon me. And Dinesh D'Souza and Dinesh D'Souza?
[02:20:23] Unknown:
I got part of it right towards the end and the questions and some of the phone calls. I didn't get the first part, but what I, heard I thought was very good. I tell you, they they both held their composure quite well. I evidently that wasn't the case earlier in the interview, but they overcame it and smoothed it over. But yeah, I thought part of it is very good and you know, hell boy, I would have never thought you'd see these issues coming out to the extent that they are now about Israel.
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Amen. Amen. Grateful. And Nick Fuentes is only 26 years old. No. He's a I love me from Nick Fuentes.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He's a sharp kid. Full by day? Yes, Dave. I'm just saying it's wonderful Yeah. To see this issue come to the top, and it scares the crap out of them that it's becoming so vocal. Yes, Dave.
[02:21:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I you know, I've I've heard the name Nick Fuentes, you know, and he was Alex Jones guy, and I I never heard him. I heard his voice, you know, as I was flipping through looking for something to listen to, and I don't listen to Alex anymore. He turns my gut. But I happen to tune into that last night, and I heard the whole thing. And, you know, I think Dinesh D'Souza Jew is a Hindu, and, man, Nick was freaking nailing it. He that was the one of the best debates. I remember heard a debate on this subject, but, man, that kid No kidding. Incredible.
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Amen. Amen.
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Is D'Souza a is D'Souza a Jew?
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He he in my view, he's a I know he's a Zionist. He is Okay. He's standing behind Israel. Alright. Well Dude, oh, man. I was blown away. I did not know who he was. I've heard you know, I saw his 4,000 mules or whatever the heck it was. And, I did I saw some of the stuff. I knew Obama. You know, I think all that was a psyop, Roger. Isuzu is he's if he's not a Jew, he's a Hindu,
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and he's a Zionist. Well, there's a lot of Amen. There's a lot of people that support Zionism that aren't Jews. They don't have to be a Zionist. I'm a Jew to support Zionism. That's what makes it so sticky is they go over and hide in the Jewish community, in the religious community. But,
[02:22:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I didn't hear the first part. Roger and said that the Jews were given that land. They've always been there by God, and it's such a joke. Yeah. You know, he thinks he's biblical and he's wrong. If those were the real Jews, they would be they would call themselves and demand to be called be called, Israelites, not Israeli. There's never been an Israeli in world history until 1948.
[02:23:20] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. You know, I'm just realizing that God was a real estate agent. I've never known that before.
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Great, Roger.
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That's a good one. Incredible.
[02:23:32] Unknown:
Yeah. It was great. It really exposed Janes as a desuju, and, I am I I am telling you, Nick is gonna beat somebody
[02:23:42] Unknown:
one day. That dude is incredible. Now He's my hero. Okay. I wanna give you a little tip here, Dave, that I heard somebody, maybe Mark, talking about. If you can't stand to listen to Alex, and I understand why you come away with that conclusion, I wish he'd quit self aggrandizing himself, but I understand why he's doing it. Got they got a lot of new people coming to that show every day. Wish we had that kind of a situation. But they've gotta go back and explain some of this stuff every hold on, Dave. Let me finish.
[02:24:13] Unknown:
I will. I know. I just wanna let you know. I wanna stop again. Go ahead.
[02:24:20] Unknown:
Somebody said they went to Alex's ex account, and all he's doing is cherry picking things like interviews and stuff like there that you might otherwise miss because you don't like listening to all this crap at times. But you can go over there and get main components like the guy that I saw interviewed. I think it was when Owen was sitting in on Monday, who's a former FBI agent, who is the only guy for twenty four years who's been studying, writing, and talking about all this Islamic stuff. Did you you I'm sure you didn't see him on there the other day for thirty minutes. I think he was on Harrison maybe. Well, he brought up some he's got a book out there, and now he's been studying it for twenty four years. And he brought up some things that if you had to come down between the two, Israel is defending us against some of these horrible things these people are doing. Okay? Now you'd have to listen to that interview to get it because that's just the impression I got. But, yeah, it's a weird situation. I just wish we could jettison all of it.
[02:25:32] Unknown:
K? Well, I'll tell you, Rod. You know, having, you know, this vision, or eyesight issue I have, I'm a phone guy. Okay? And Yeah. I understand. Tell you what. I listen to I listen to Alex Jones every single day, multiple when when the show ended, I listened live. And when it ended, I let it loop, and I heard it two or three more times during the day before I went to sleep. And I woke up listening to him every day probably until, about, well, when he got divorced. Okay? Alright. When he got divorced, I saw the change. And my brother was the guy that opened Alex's eyes to what's really going on in the world. And Alex Jones said back then on Access TV that he was an atheist. My brother told him, you better not tell people you're an atheist. You will never make it in this patriot movement as an atheist. And Alex and Alex was a great student and a great teacher, and he I learned so much from that guy. But I'll tell you what, I can't hear his voice anymore without me gagging. So as soon as I listen to Owen I try to listen to Owen. You know, when I'll tune in and and hear him, and as soon as he goes through a commercial break, I change it. But, you know, guess what, Rog?
RBN started having these debates with, Fester, uncle you know, Jim Fetzer and others. And now Alex is having debates. So he's trying to, you know No. No. Jump on their bandwagon. No. What's he, brother? No. He is. No. Okay. Alex did not come up with that idea.
[02:27:16] Unknown:
I know he did. Fetch or call or or or the guy, the 26 year old called him and said him and D'Souza had decided on this and asked him if he would monitor it. He did it was not his idea. I heard that.
[02:27:31] Unknown:
I did hear that. But I'm telling you, Alex Alex is piggybacking on RBN. RBN started Alex Jones. Okay? And,
[02:27:43] Unknown:
you know, Mark Quarantine and John That's not that's just not true, Dave. It is not true. It is. Jack Miller moved down to Austin to be close and try and get on his coattails. He did not start Alex. That's just foolishness, Dave. It's not true. Okay.
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Okay, Roger. Get Brent Bachman on here, and you you get him to tell you that, and then I'll believe it.
[02:28:09] Unknown:
I've been listening Marco
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and John Spatmiller started Republic Broadcasting before Alex Jones
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had any radio stuff. They put Alex on the air. That's just not true, Dave. I'm sorry. He was already on public access in Austin.
[02:28:26] Unknown:
I was I knew I'm not talking about public. It's after public access, Roger. It's after that. How do you think he got on the radio? John and Mark put him on their their program.
[02:28:40] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. If you if you say so. I totally disagree with you. Alright. Does anybody else have anything to do with me? With a lot of folks on here, but you can. It's your show. I Well, I'll give you that. I've been paying attention to the guy since none of you knew who he was, quite frankly.
[02:28:57] Unknown:
Who hell? Dude, my brother was was his first caller on his first TV show in Austin, Texas when he started that Access TV.
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Okay.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
My brother talked to him every single day. Alex Jones went to the Bohemian Grove not believing any of it because my brother told him about it. And on his way there, he stopped at the national parks to film the UN zone signs that my brother told him about that Alex didn't believe. He got a loan for $5 from his dad, and, Mike, the guy that started Alex, you know, that that helped Alex was I can't think of his last name at the moment, but that guy wanted my brother to basically be Alex Jones before Alex Jones showed up. And my brother said no. Kevin Kevin Booth.
No. No. It's Mike, a guy from Austin. Mike, somebody. He had a access TV show. My brother introduced Alex Jones to every one of those hosts on that that had shows on that out that Access TV in Austin. Right. That Mike guy, he was, he reported on that shooting, right, in the tower? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Mike went to Mike went to the Bohemian Grove with Alex Jones.
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That was one of the first thing Alex did. Who?
[02:30:24] Unknown:
Mike Hansen.
[02:30:25] Unknown:
Mike Hansen. Thank you. You you're amazing, girl. I can't believe the stuff you pull out of the air. That's incredible. Yeah. Mike Hanson. That's the guy. He wanted he approached my brother to do his own show, and my brother wasn't that guy. You know? He said no. But he's more color commentary. He fed Alex Jones so much stuff. Every day after the show, Alex would call him and say, oh my god, brother. That was absolute. Can I use that? And my brother says, can you use it? You better use it. Why do you think I'm giving it to you? Anyway, my brother went on a bad acid trip in high school, and when he came to, he was freaking having visions, clairvoyant.
He's seen stuff nobody ever told them, and he told all of those people on that Access TV show about it, and he got them all working together, and Alex jumped on that. He didn't at first, but he he didn't believe any of it. And Alex won't even admit that. He says when he read The Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, that's when he woke up. But my brother woke him up. You can go back and listen to those archive shows. My brother's Gordy and Austin, and a lot of people that listen to Alex early on know who Gordy from Austin is. Anyway, I yield.
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Here's something interesting. Yeah. Look in Genesis 23, and you'll read how Abraham didn't own the land. Okay? You know, they say they they were given it and everything else. It shows how he bought a cave to bury Sarah in in a field. And, Hashem, whatever his last name was, that used to be on RBN, and he was Muslim, and he brought this up. Right? And around that time, they're in Texas, there were all these threats that, oh, no. There's gonna be Muslim Sharia law in Texas. Right? You know, there's so many Jews in Texas. But so I put in the chat, and he read it on air. I said, oh, so they're gonna have interest free banking? And, we didn't hear any more about that for quite some time.
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Does anybody else have anything for me? Roger? I guess they do. Yes, Larry.
[02:32:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I was wondering if Paul received my email on June 16 that I'm interested in the trust.
[02:32:52] Unknown:
I have no idea whether he did or not. Yeah. I believe I did.
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K.
[02:32:59] Unknown:
Okay. Just making sure. Thank you. Alright. Okay. Alright. Thank you. Anybody else got anything for me? I'll see y'all tomorrow. Tomorrow is the Thursday. I guess we're gonna have a show Friday. That might be very, lightly. But then again, it might there might be more people here. So don't know. Anyway, that's probably what we'll do. And, a lot of folks are well, I would some folks are traveling over the long weekend because you basically got a three and probably you could stretch it to four. So I don't know. We'll we'll find out. We'll see. Just one of these holiday weekends. Okay? That's why we use free conference call is it's robust
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telephone support. Wherever they happen to be, they can call in. There you go.
[02:33:50] Unknown:
Alright. So, I'll see y'all tomorrow. We'll see what happens the rest of the day. Ciao.
[02:33:56] Unknown:
Thank you, Raj. Bye, brother. Hey, guys. I'm gonna leave the See you, Raj. I'm gonna leave the stream up for another twenty eight minutes, and then we'll be taking it down and processing the archives. So, take over and make it good like I know you always do.
[02:34:17] Unknown:
Can somebody email me that link that Julie talked about from Australia?
[02:34:23] Unknown:
I'll send it to I'll go
[02:34:25] Unknown:
Is this Samuel? No. It's Dave. Saving no. It's Dave in the thumb. Oh, Dave. I can email it to you. It's [email protected]. Right? That's right. Yep. I'll send it to you right now. Thank you so much.
[02:34:39] Unknown:
I think, Dinesse D'Souza was put on the, for all his good deeds, he was he was put on the Zionist Zionist pitonance program. He had used a little whip and hit himself on the back and say that he's sorry.
[02:34:57] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. Man, that if you guys haven't heard that that debate, wow. It was powerful. That kid, that 26 year old kid blew me away. He's amazing.
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Where can we see this?
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Probably if you go to infowarsum,.com. There Alex has a free you know, you can watch it. So somehow, it's infowars.tv
[02:35:28] Unknown:
or something like that. Right. No. I know where it is. You have to go to, the past archives. And by the way, I agree with you on everything you said about, previously with Roger. So Yeah. It's amazing how you you can point out all these facts and but he disagrees with facts. I mean, I mean, I have so much dirt on all these people, and I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the dirt I have, you can't make that stuff up. It's verifiable.
[02:35:56] Unknown:
Julie. And I wanna repeat this because of I know what happened with Roger and and Gatti. But Gatti, when he was in DC, he tells the story. He ran into a guy that he was in school with in high school who was a year or two older than him. They knew of each other, but they didn't hang out. So when Gaddy saw he was like a congressman or something, he looked them up because he lived there, and they started having barbecues on, Gaddy's balcony. You know? And that dude told Roger or told Mike that this was his first term. Right? And he said he was addicted to Washington DC. It's addictive. And he said he told him that his first day as a junior congressman or whatever they call him, the speaker of the house came to his office, and and he thought, wow. You know, he he thought he was privileged because he came in there, and that dude told him that whenever I need your vote, I have it.
If I don't need your vote, you can have the biggest, you know, soapbox and scream and holler and and say this and that to your constituents. But whenever I need your vote, I have it. And if I don't, you will never get a committee seat, and you will not be reelected.
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Yep. And that's what my whole thing is. That's the whole thing I'm trying to say. Everybody
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in in Washington District of Columbia.
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Yep. A 100%. I'm with you. You and I are on the same page, Dave, and I'm so glad to have a brother from a different mother because it is so true, the corruption the level of corruption is just the federal government needs to go.
[02:37:42] Unknown:
Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Dave. You're welcome. And, Julie Julie, Strawman has posted the link to the, debate. And if you're not on the, FCC okay. It's banned.video. Banned.video.
[02:37:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. So Look at that. Government is a corporate
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democracy, and you cannot elect anybody if you are a registered voter or if you're not on the board of directors and a shareholder.
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Yep.
[02:38:16] Unknown:
The the we don't vote. We don't vote. Voting doesn't matter. It don't do nothing. They've been like you said, look, my kids got this movie. We got our kids this movie. They're they're not kids. They're grown adults, you know, in their thirties. We bought them this movie called Fievel. Fievel goes to America. It's this little mouse from Russia. Right? And his family, they escaped the Bolshevik revolution because there's no cats in America. Right? But there are cats. The cats are dressed like rats, and the mayor of New York, the rat mayor of New York was a drunken bumpkin, and he wore you know, this is in the Bolshevik Revolution, '19, you know, 1516, '17. Right? This is a Disney movie, and the, the mayor in that cartoon for my little children was a drunk. And every time he hiccuped, bubbles would come out of his mouth, right, to show you that he was drunk. And he was taken names, of all the people, all the rats or mice that died and fell overboard on the ship and died so he could have their vote in future elections.
That was in that movie in, like, 1985 or something that came out, and we got it when my, you know, when my son was probably three, on a a DVD or a not a DVD. It was a video cassette tape back then. But, yeah, that movie exposes so much stuff, and all the movies do. So, yeah, you can, agree or disagree with anything I say, but you gotta be able to prove me wrong, and I don't think I am.
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Anyway, it's a corporate democracy. And I think one of the main reasons that they, they they don't want to follow the constitution when it comes to the representatives being one for every 30,000 is because that's a too big a group to control and do what they want them to do. But we'll never have that. Never. Yeah. And, I mean and if we didn't let them go to Washington where they can be, you know, knuckled over. Yeah. Corrupted. They Keep them at home. There's no reason to let them I mean, we used to looked it up. We used to pay Congress in the beginning $6 per diem. So $6 a day for every day they showed up, And they only they only were in session usually a hundred and fifty to a hundred and eighty days.
And they they did argue about, you know, whether or not that was too little money to be paying them, but they pretty much agreed. Well, it shouldn't be a place to get rich.
[02:41:06] Unknown:
Excuse me, Dave. Shouldn't have to spend their own money to go do the pee the work for the people, but they shouldn't be you know, they should be made whole.
[02:41:14] Unknown:
Right? Excuse me, Dave? Yep. Dave, what was the name of that mouse movie again?
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It was called Fievel, Goes to America. There's, like, a three part series.
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They're Disney movies. They're amazing. Watch them. You said you said Fibal, f I b o l?
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Yeah. F I v
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e l, I think. Okay. Thank you. Goes to go it goes to what? Uh-huh. America. That's the first one,
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and then there's a three part there's two more after that. Fievel Goes West, and I can't remember what the third one was. And they're and they're all good, like you said? Yes. They're great. It's a great cartoon and a great if you if you're awake, you'll see, and then you can share it with the young folks, the young kids that, you know, where the, why they're saying what they're saying and, you know, it's not just entertainment.
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I got five I got five grandkids. So Okay.
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They probably already know about it, but now you can watch it with an open eye and and point out all of the,
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stuff. It's crazy.
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It's, spelled f I e v e l. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Julie But, yeah, it's the Bolshevik revolution, and the Bolsheviks were cats eating and killing and destroying the mice and rat population in Russia. And then they come over on a ship, and it it's wow. It's incredible. And, you know, they come through Ellis Island and all that. You know? It it's pretty amazing, the history involved in this series. Julie. Dom Delaise. Dom Delaise is one of the voices of the cats. It's it's pretty good.
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Sounds good.
[02:43:11] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:43:13] Unknown:
Julie. Hey. Hi. Hi. K a cheesy.
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Yeah. Right.
[02:43:29] Unknown:
Joan, do you need me to email you the link?
[02:43:32] Unknown:
No. I just wanted to say kudos for what you said about Marjorie. I mean, it's obvious.
[02:43:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I got I got all the I got all the meat on all these people, including Flynn, including Hollywood people like Caviezel and Jennifer Lopez. And, oh my god, if you were to read this stuff, you'd throw up. It you it's two. It is two. There's too much information and you can vet some of that stuff up. So so Yeah. What do you got for a diesel? You can't get Alright. You look at you I got a so much on Caviezel. If you want me to send it to you, you need to give me your email address when you read it.
[02:44:14] Unknown:
Go to Hollywood Theater. Charles holmeseth dot com. Read for yourself.
[02:44:21] Unknown:
Yeah. But I got more than what's on there. Is that Dave in the thumb? Do you want me to send you the stuff that I have on, Jim That was Samuel. Oh, Samuel, you want me to send you that? Sure. I'll read it. Okay. So I have your cell phone, but I don't have your email. Where should I email it to you? Don't have an email. Okay. So just text it to you? Yeah. That's fine. Okay. I can text it to you.
[02:44:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Send the list out to me.
[02:44:46] Unknown:
Okay. I'll send it to you, Brett. You want me to just text it to you, or do you want me to email it to you? I should email it to you, Brett. Email is fine. Yep. Great. Thanks.
[02:44:54] Unknown:
Please please put my email on that list too. So I wanna double check what you've got and I've got. Yeah. I think it's you it's you're you are MervBailey@HotmailatYahoo
[02:45:04] Unknown:
or, Hotmail? Merv? Mer? I can't hear you.
[02:45:14] Unknown:
Oh, I muted myself. Sorry. [email protected], and the other one has numbers in it at yahoo. But I think you I think you I did. I emailed you. Yep. I emailed you before. Yep. Yeah. So either one. Thanks. Okay. Perfect.
[02:45:28] Unknown:
Has anybody seen, the biometrics coming out for anything you've got with, Microsoft?
[02:45:37] Unknown:
Yep. Like Hotmail? Yep. You gotta show your eye eye scan or your thumbprint or Yep. Kind of additional ID. We have ID. Me and three other companies in my in that compete against them that all have contracts with the Treasury, DOD, DARPA, Secretary of State, all of these agencies, all of these nefarious agencies, you're not going to be able to get on the Internet, and you're not going to be able to do any transactions without having a digital ID. So That's supposed to take place in August. Right? Yep. Oh, I don't know if it's August, but the digital, money system that was signed as an executive order from Trump on 03/25/2025 rolls out and is implemented on ninethirty, twenty twenty five. So, if there's any White House like people say there are, which I don't believe in, because this is this this nefariousness is rolling out at warp speed, will the white hats please come forward to stop this? Because I'm told that the Galactic Federation and we're watching a movie, really? I feel like I'm watching a frickin' nightmare. It's not a Will the real white hats please stand up? Yeah. Will the real white hats please step up? Will the Galactic Federation please remove all the clones so we can have our freedom back?
And please restore the republic that we once were.
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I don't think we ever had a republic. I don't either. I want a reprivate. I want a reprivate, not a republic.
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Yeah. I agree.
[02:47:05] Unknown:
They just needed a name to hang on it.
[02:47:07] Unknown:
Yep. Right. 100, Mer.
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And I asked I asked Gatti, is there any evidence of this woman asking, Franklin when they come out of the, you know, the convention? What type of government did you give us, sir? A republic, madam, if you can keep it. Yeah. Bullshit. Nobody. That he said there he can't find that anywhere.
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Confederation. Confederation with confederation is good.
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Right. Right.
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Yep.
[02:47:54] Unknown:
I miss Jim Ram.
[02:47:57] Unknown:
Yeah. I've been I I was talking about him yesterday. I've been talking about him a lot. He's been coming up a lot. It's like, you know they killed him in that hospital. You know they did. Just like just like Chris came, they killed him in that freaking hospital. He said no hospitals.
[02:48:17] Unknown:
Yeah. But he Yeah. His allopathic wife and the pastor talked him into it, and, next day, he died.
[02:48:25] Unknown:
Yep. The next day. Very next day. Come on. It it was it the blue meth?
[02:48:30] Unknown:
I don't know. He was taking that blue meth. I don't know if he kept taking it, but I didn't Peter Glidden tell him to stop taking that? It wouldn't blue meth. Wait a minute. I can get that. Methylene blue. I call it blue meth. He wasn't taking that either. That wasn't it. Mark, s put it in the I'll get it for you. Hang on. It's a sulfur product, but,
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yeah, I sure miss him. It's like there's a hole in the day. Well, yeah.
[02:48:57] Unknown:
Jim was taking that blue meth for quite some time after, Samuel introduced it to him, and he he researched it, and he had a bunch of shows about it. I was on those. I think he actually texted me some of those rebroadcasts, and I don't have that phone anymore. But,
[02:49:19] Unknown:
yeah. And then Yeah. He definitely took it for a while, but I don't I didn't introduce it to him. It was the other way around. The show introduced it to me.
[02:49:28] Unknown:
Oh, I thought you intro I I thought it to this show, but I got it from Jim's show. Ah, okay. Okay. I misunderstand.
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And he was on it, I would say, for a few months, but then, yeah, you're right. Glinton told him not to.
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I retract my statement for AI. Samuel did not introduce blue meth to Jim.
[02:49:50] Unknown:
It was the other way around, but I did introduce it to this group. And, you know, I've taken it. I didn't I didn't have a benefit one way or the other, so I just stopped. Well, remember, Roger got sick right after he started taking it.
[02:50:03] Unknown:
Interesting. Yeah. We're each grown ups. We gotta make choices, and Jim would like to experiment. But what he was experimenting was, pepper sulfurous calorium. And he was taking too much of it too, and he was hoping it would clear his system, but apparently, it never did.
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Call me a pathic.
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Yeah. Yeah. Call me a pathic medicine. Yep. And Glenn told him stop. I need to What was he take what was he taking it for, Mar? Do you know? I forget. Is he hot? He didn't breathe. Right? No. I think you're right. But, you know and they diagnosed that he passed with a congestive heart failure, I believe. And so, you know, that's the kind of thing that, contributes to that. But,
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you know, he said Pepper Pepper. So you're what was it again?
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I'll I'll put it in the chat. You can see the chat. Right? Thank you.
[02:51:01] Unknown:
Robbie, did you ever get to talk to Gail, Jim's wife?
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Oh, is this Brenda? Yes. No. Oh, hi, Brenda. Hi. No. I I never heard from her. Did you?
[02:51:14] Unknown:
No. Not after I mean, I've Wow. Three times. And then she she texted me back and said, I appreciate your concern. And, you know, I told her that the second time or whatever I texted her, I said, you know, I I was in your place several years ago when my first husband passed away unexpectedly. And I said, I know it's hard, dah dah dah, but I'm here for you, and I would like to visit with you. I've got a few suggestions, you know, that you know? And she said, well, thanks, but I've gotta put the financial stuff first, and that's my priority. So thanks for being patient.
[02:51:59] Unknown:
Oh, well, Yeah. And that I've never heard from her. So, Brenda, if you're still interested, when this thing goes live again and people can sign up again, I'll contact you. Okay. I was wondering if you kept my number because I was trying to think I had jurors saying you had given me I did keep I did keep your number. But if for any reason you don't hear from me, please feel free to call me. Otherwise, as soon as we, go live again, they went through a lot of IT issues, and they had to hire a whole new staff and just redo the whole things because they already had a 140,000 people involved.
And creating a matrix of that was just they didn't have the, the the ITs did not have the, you know, the techie skills to to to really handle it. But anyway, we're still, you know, we're still looking forward to that. And Thank you. Yeah. You folks have a blessed day. So, Robbie,
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do you want to give me your number or email it to me or something so I can have it? I don't know. Do you wanna if you wanna give do you feel okay about giving me your email right now? Or Sure. Go ahead. I think we had give it to you before, but, this is my husband's. We both use it. It's, casin,uh,car,Holtman,holtman,@outlook.com.
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Okay. Let me repeat that. [email protected].
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Yes.
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Okay. No period in there? Just c holtman.
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Right.
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Okay. Got it.
[02:53:49] Unknown:
Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. I had hollered out to you a couple days ago to see if you Oh. Here, but I guess you didn't hear me or was tied up or left the room or whatever. So
[02:54:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I come and go and flit and flow. Y'all have a blessed day. Okay. You too. Bye. Bye bye.
[02:54:12] Unknown:
Dave, are you still there? I just wanted to ask. Does anybody know how long that Hi. Does anybody know, how long that forecast,
[02:54:23] Unknown:
the Sousa debate? It's two hours. It's it's two hours and maybe seventeen minutes or so. The debate was about two hours and then Alex you know how Alex is, and, they they went they took about two or three questions, and, he read a couple off of x. But, yeah, it was it was a little more than two hours.
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Thank you.
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Yep. And, you know, just to do, he was the one who was picking on the kid. He made some pretty snide comments, and the kid was the one who was, the, you know, the statesman. It's it's unbelievable. And I really never heard that kid. I've heard his name. I've heard some stupid stuff about him. I don't know if it's true, but, I liked I I was immediately, drawn to him. He won that debate, hands down. Thank you. Yep. Even though he's a Catholic.
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What? Hey, Dave. What do you think about Alex Jones being Bill Bill Hicks?
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I don't know who Bill Hicks is, so I can't comment on that. I don't my brother met met Alex when he was, like, 18 years old. I don't think he's Bill Hicks, but I don't know who Bill Hicks is.
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How's your how's your brother now?
[02:55:53] Unknown:
How is he? Yeah. He he had that trip and everything, you know, with that Oh, that was way back in high school. My brother's 68, and, he's he's not doing well at all. His white died, when she was 50 and, had a heart attack in bed next to him. And Mike Hanson, we were talking about earlier, His brother was a cop in Austin, and they they came to his house. And after he called and, they, you know, they you know how they do that. They accuse the spouse of killing, the other one. And, but when Mike Mike's brother realized who he was, he knew he didn't kill his wife. But she was pretty bruised up from that. You know, she had a heart attack sometime during the night, and, you know, he woke up next to her in the next morning, and she was gone.
But that really screwed him up. And, yep. He's, drowning himself in a bottle and a couple of different bottles. One of liquid and one of pills.
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Does he get near you?
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No. He's in he still lives in a suburb of Austin.
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Okay.
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Yep. So, anyway, yeah, he was play played a big role in the Patriot Movement for a long time. But, he he's, yeah, he's abandoned all that now, but he still listens to Alex.
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Maybe,
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he he can't handle him anymore, but he's he's still addicted to him. Mhmm. But he mostly just watches TV, antenna TV, and sports.
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Does he have children? Your brother? He has he has two children.
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One from his first marriage and one from his second the second one he was married for thirty five years. First one didn't last long, but and you don't see his first son, but his second son is there in Texas, and he sees him often. Oh, okay. Pretty sharp.
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He's sharp?
[02:58:10] Unknown:
Yeah. His son. He's a pretty sharp guy.
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Good.
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Yep. But you've heard that about Bill Hicks and Alex Jones. Have you? Have you heard that? Well, I heard more talk about that, but I I really don't know who Bill Hicks was or is. Is he is he supposed to be dead, but Alex is really him? And what what's Bill Hicks' claim to fame?
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Oh, he was a comedian, and he was the only other, client of Kevin Booth.
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I don't know who that is. Who's Kevin Booth?
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Yeah. Well, yeah. I don't know if you want the information or not, but it's something to look into. But, yeah, he Yeah. Bill Bill Hicks is kinda like George Carlin, you know, the the the truth bomb comedian type.
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Okay. Yeah.
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I love the word. You can see the similarities, though, between the way they act and everything about them, except for the horse voice. And, yeah, there there was some plastic surgery done, but all these other things match up. And, yep, it's him. Oh, and you know what he does too? He cut in on Owen Shroyer when he had Fuentes on on his own show. Robert Raybo brought this up one of his last shows and, that Robert had. Anyway, and I looked it up and, Alex comes in and he acts he'd like he'd been drinking too. Right? And he's messing with people on his his own staff. You know, you you would think he wouldn't interfere. Right? And, so one of them, I don't know, Shroyer, I think, said something about Bill Hicks, and he says, yeah. But I have blue eyes. No. He has blue contact lenses. Alright? And every once in a while, he'll do something where he tries to prove he has blue eyes. But if you look at a lot of his different, videos, if you look on, you know, Juan Gibson's bit shoot or or, or e Michael Jones. He did an interview with e Michael Jones. And you stop that and look with a magnifying glass. Those eyes are brown. You know, the brown overpowers the blue contacts or else he's not wearing them all the time, and I don't think he realizes that with the lighting.
You know? But, I mean, there's many different people that have said that. And in fact, there's some that have taken out insurance. Like, after, for example, you know, with the Obama's birth certificate and Andrew Breitbart, who happened to be fully Irish blood even though Jews, adopted him when he was three weeks old. But, anyway, at that after that event, James, James, Jerome Corsi, when he was leaving and he and there's a video you can find it. It's it's, it's, 03/02/2012. And he says, Bill, you know, everybody likes to slow down and play. They he calls Alex Bill, and so has Pichenic, and so has Steve. Well, they know.
They slip and call him Bill.
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And their eyes being brown shows off of the crap he is.
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Stepped in it stepped in it real deep. Yep.
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Yikes.
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But I always liked, you know, when he was doing, you know, way back when I first heard about him and he was on shortwave, I guess, I heard him at first, and the public, what what do you call it? Public access? Broadcasting.
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What? PBS.
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Mhmm. But then there was an interim guy. I think he was supposed to copy that they were calling Alex Jones too. And I don't know if they're both agents, probably. But there there's just a whole bunch of stuff. But, yep, he's he's Phil Hicks. That's alright.
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Whatever.
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So is there Bill Hicks up on the on the net?
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can find him. Something. I think so. I'll find some stuff and put it in your email.
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Okay.
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Yeah. He's fun to listen to him, but, it it's interesting. You know?
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Very Yeah. I'd like to hear him. Yeah. All the different,
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coinky dinks.
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Cohen. Yeah. Most of the coinky dinks are are coinky stinks.
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You're right. Yeah. Synchronicities and all that jazz. But it's interesting that this Kevin Booth who was friends with, Bill Hicks, right, and, was his manager. And then, oh, when he died, well, he was, you know, Alex Jones' manager. Oh. And they're the only two people, only it's one people, that he's ever handled. There's a really good interview on C SPAN with Brian Lamb at one point, Kevin Booth with the dark circles under his eyes talking about you know, that was when Jonesy first came on the scene and, yeah, it's cool. It's fun to see all these different agents and how they put them out there and just laugh at it. You know? You can still learn stuff from them. You don't have to be mad and, you know, it's just Right.
Beware. Beware and laugh at it.
[03:04:18] Unknown:
Hey, you guys. Look on the chat. I put a link in there. It's a YouTube short entitled stupid people. You'll like it.
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Where where is it in the chat? Yep. Okay. Thanks.
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This is Carl in Utah. I've just been kinda listening on the back on and off, but I agree. I don't think I think you gotta use your own spider senses to make sure that, the information is correct. Yeah. Just take everything for face value. Even on here, I some of the stuff I don't know 100% and I can't think about. And everyone else I listen to, you just gotta think about and pick and choose the information you wanna truly bite onto.
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Yeah. We each need to pray for guidance is what it is.
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Yep.
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God bless us with the spirit. Gotta gotta learn how to use it.
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If I may? Nope. I've heard you guys talk about impossible, and I was wondering if anybody's seen the similarities in Johnny Carson. And, who do you think he resembles? What was that? I always had something running.
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I just wondered
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if anybody's taken a look at Johnny Carson and some of his old movies and well, not movies, but, you know, his old shows. And he comes on there, and he just kinda looks very tall, kinda, you know, like bush, you know, kind of does anybody else see any similarities to them? To who? Who do you think he was like? Johnny Carson and the Bush family. Oh, Well, it could be. You know, whoever he was, it was definitely to fill in after Jack Parr. Right? Yeah. That's a whole another subject.
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Murr, would you text, us that whatever Julie had texted you?
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Oh, yeah. Let me check my mail.
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K. See if I can send it I can send anything to you too at your [email protected] if you outlook dot out Oh, okay. Dot com. I can't say that word if you want me to.
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Okay. Yes. I didn't know if you had ours yet, but I knew Mer did. And so, yes, that'd be great. Thank you. Yeah. No problem. I'm sorry. What's your first name again? Brenda.
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Brenda. Thank you, Brenda.
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Mhmm. You know, outlaw might be a little more apropos.
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Oh, good. Yeah.
[03:07:22] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just gonna say also, which some of y'all have heard me say this before, met methylene blue. After I heard doctor Artis the second time, I'd heard it once and then, then and then it was a few months later, I heard it again again on his take on that methylene blue. You know, when he was researched and how and a lot of the bad shots and all that stuff, the snake venoms and other stuff with that he found was in them. Well, also, with that methylene blue, he started researching it because someone else had said a friend of his had started taking it. And he started researching it, and he it's got some type of toxin from some different snake or spider or something. I can't remember what.
But, his good friend died a week after he'd been taking it.
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So he You know what, Brenda? Also, all this I like Brian Ardis a lot, but he's totally wrong on those. I'd be very careful on those nicotine patches because there's several people like doctor Ariana Love and doctor Anna Mahoucha and stuff who have found, several chemicals in those, those in that tape that you wear. It's not good for you, and it is the same thing with ivermectin, where there's some neurological toxin that can pierce the blood brain barrier. I don't know if it's PG Polysorbite. I don't know. And SB something else. I can't remember the chemicals, but I would just be careful with taking this stuff. You don't know who manufactures it and what it's in what's in it.
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Yeah.
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Julie, did you I'm sorry. Did you send that? I I don't have either my email have anything from you.
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No. I haven't sent anything yet to anybody. Okay. Alright. I sent on to do my my to do list. I gotta go get all of the information from a file folder that I have on, like, these people, like, Jim Caviezel and, and Marjorie Taylor Greene and stuff, and it's very long. Like, I mean, we're talking pages long. It's not this one little short thing. General Flynn, don't forget him. Right? Oh, yes. And oh my god. When you see the stuff on end and what he did, he was involved in the, you know, election interference, and he was involved in the audit of the, of the twenty twenty election and where he thwarted everything. He had investments with those cyber ninjas down in Florida. Oh my god. You can't make this stuff up.
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And apparently, child trafficking too. Yep. He's they're all in they're all in child trafficking work. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't get to be DEI for nothing. That's right. Exactly. Anybody who said of DIA or d whatever it's called, Defense Intelligence Agency. Oh, I said, yeah. DIA. I said it wrong. Yeah.
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It's not good. And, you know, like, Dave from the thumb is correct on all this stuff on, on all that stuff that with Alex Jones and all this stuff that he reported on. But, you know, Roger just doesn't see this stuff and that's okay. Like Dave said, it's his show, and thank God he at least lets us have free speech and talk about it and we can just agree to disagree.
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Yeah. I used to be on here more when, before you came and,
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we wouldn't really lock horns, but he didn't wanna hear it. You know? He Yeah. I mean, he doesn't wanna hear mine either, but it's okay. I mean, he Yeah. He doesn't have to. All of us appear to really be in the same boat together in terms of our agreement on the corruption, you know, corruptness. I mean, I saw this meme the other day. It was really funny. It said anybody who thinks any American or any citizen of any country who thinks that the the people in congress who are worth billions and trillions of dollars are gonna do anything for We The People needs a lobotomy or something like that. It was something funny, and it had a picture of a cartoon character and stuff. It was it was funny.
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Yeah. They're all compromised.
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Thomas Mason might be the advised. Messi might be Roger will tell you himself that he's got a bromance with, you know, with a lot of these men on these different platforms. Yep. And it's all all the Infowars people you've got a bromance with and that that Barnes attorney and,
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Yep. Anyway
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Yep. When Roger was saying, oh, give your, you know, give your don't give your money to me. Give your money to Alex. Right? I'm like, yeah. That's gonna happen. Not.
[03:12:00] Unknown:
I mean, I everybody it's like every we all know that these IRS taxes are voluntary and have they been eliminated? No. And and and, you know, Roger is saying, oh, it looks like the IRS taxes are gonna be eliminated and stuff. And I'm just like, oh my god. The IRS taxes are gonna be eliminated. Did anybody read the big bad bill?
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Oh my god. I call it the big bad voodoo daddy.
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Yeah. I mean, it's built from the poor and it gives to the risk, and it's like the IRS is not going away. It gives Social Security is still taxed, but, oh, the seniors will get a little teeny tiny tax credit, which is a partial offset of their taxes. The top 1% get a 120,000,000,000 plus net tax cut and people making less than 50 ks will see their after tax income decline by 5% plus. And it takes away a trillion from Medicaid and it prohibits state and local regulations of artificial intelligence for ten years. Oh, my God, The AI is monitoring us. And, you know SkyNet
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people. That's SkyNet.
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Yep. And then it changes the rule of law. And it, you know, so now the president can continue to sign their his or her draconian executive orders without congressional approval and disregard the rulings of the judges even though we know they're all corrupt, but they he can declare the judicial orders unenforceable. And then you've got, you know, the 4 plus trillion dollars that it increases the deficit by. I could go on and on and on. I downloaded the whole entire bill. It's 1,000 I can't almost 1,100 pages long. And you can just do Control F and search, the document. But there's a few things that are good and and, oh, okay. Wow. The taxes on the tips are eliminated. Oh, excuse me, Roger, but that's temporary.
It's only for three years. You know? And then what? The taxes go back up on people's tips? They probably don't.
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It's not it's while Trump's in office.
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Yeah. Exactly. That's it. And it and and it's and all the other stuff that should be good. And, oh, yeah. It has some border stuff that's good, but we know that they're not really enforcing the border. You know what? How do we know what they're bringing in under the tunnels and how what they're bringing in when we're sleeping at night? We don't know. They just say that.
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Well, I don't I don't think they wait until the cover of darkness. They do everything right in our face. It's in plain sight. I did like, how they were going about it with, you know, Kristi Noem and and Trump and, DeSantis. They're showing the the digs and how it's air conditioned and but once you're in there, you can never come back to The US. And but even if you come right up to the door and then say you'll self deport, well, then you're okay. You can come back after a while. I don't know how many years. Hopefully, like, ten or something. But but a lot of people apparently, a million people have self deported.
So if they can encourage that, that's a good thing. You know, put up a building and and say, look. Look at this little prison we'll put you in if you don't self deport. You know? I think deportation
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should be a bullet in the head. Let him self deport then. I'll pay for the bullet. Mhmm.
[03:15:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Julie?
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Yep?
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Do you see SGB last night? It's, the he was talking about he put some videos, somebody in in the government saying that even though taxes are, you know, voluntary, the the IRS need to enforce the law because if people stop paying, the income tax, they they gonna be in trouble. You heard that?
[03:15:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, obviously, they're going to because as, Joe reported in the show yesterday, I mean, our birth certificates are collateral for we don't have fiat currency. People think we have fiat currency. It's backed by our human labor. It's backed by the taxes that we pay, for the debt, and the government has been in receivership since 1933.
[03:15:59] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Labor is the only value. This people don't get, you know, because they tend to think of, like, oh, like gems and precious metals. Well, they have to be mined and refined. You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. We just had to be born.
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Yep. And and that's what they claim the cryptocurrency is has value because it's been mined by, you know, labor. They don't they do they let robots mine it. How much water does it take to cool the the the, electricity and the water to to produce a Bitcoin?
[03:16:41] Unknown:
It kinda makes you hope future now, Larry. They got future now, Larry. The energy is gonna be free.
[03:16:48] Unknown:
Makes you hope the, grid goes down. Right?
[03:16:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Exactly. We gotta have electric cars so that because the grid's going down. Mm-mm. And by the way, Bori, this is Dave.
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Not Larry. Dave. I'm sorry, Dave.
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That's alright.
[03:17:10] Unknown:
Hey, Dave. This is Jesse. Imagine that you own one robot, and that robot works twenty four hours a day, three hundred and twenty five, and you need $5 for his because the only thing he does is collect tomato. What's the most valuable thing? The tomato, the the the bravo, or the labor of collecting $5 for you of tomato every year for connector. The labor is the ultimate.
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Right.
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Absolutely. So that makes sense? Why they
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that's why they sold our labor in the bank the fake bankruptcy
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and made us security
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to to cover that debt note.
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Or even after the the,
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And they have 300,000,000 of robots, cyborgs, or whatever you wanna call us, collecting tomatoes every day.
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Yeah.
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You know, the, worst thing about all of this is that, it gets even worse, when it comes to the mortgages and what, and what Roger was reporting about how these mortgages get funded because, first of all, they get record like, the promissory note, it gets record Roger says the promissory note gets recorded as a liability. No. It does not. And I have the Federal Reserve publication. The the I have the Federal Reserve publication on how mortgages are recorded on a bank ledger. It is recorded as an asset on the bank's books, otherwise known as an account receivable, because you promised to pay the bank.
And then the credit that they make on the credit side is they just, you know, put the money in your account using just numbers, just like a general journal entry. So no consideration is ever is never done. So you actually are using your own promissory note as a bill of exchange to your funding, you funded the mortgage. And then after that, it gets worse. So you already funded the mortgage. But then after that, they take the promissory note and they discount it and they sell it, in the market. So they're getting paid twice. But and I and yes, they do monetize the promissory note, but that's not the initial transaction that's placed in the book. So, it's completely fraudulent from the beginning, because you just gave them money.
You gave them money for your mortgage. Like, you paid for you paid for your mortgage when you signed that promissory note. Yeah. That that cash represented,
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didn't exist until you signed that. Right?
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Well, it it's worse than that because it's you can't really use the word cash because we don't have money anymore. We don't have gold and silver anymore. So all we have is fake federal reserve notes, and it's it's you you could just write your own piece of paper that say I promised to pay you this, and you you've already paid for whatever you wrote for the promissory note. And then
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people. And it's compounding daily.
[03:20:29] Unknown:
Oh, and you can't do that. It's like taking this is what they've done. It's like placing you're taking a quart of milk and pouring it into a quart glass bottle. Tell me how after you pour that milk into a one quart glass bottle that you're able to pour out one quart and one pint from that one quart glass bottle. That's what our financial system is. Yep. Like barren metal, like E. Michael Jones says. Yeah. We're just I mean, it's just so bad. I mean, I couldn't believe this when I read this. I actually got that book that Roger, requested that we get, and it's and it took forever for me to get.
But it's called, it's called Bashed by the Bankers. Now so I already read the Secrets of the Bankers that Tom Schaff, wrote, but this is called Bashed by the Bankers. And in it, he has so many references to all of these other books and publications that I've got that are out of print. And when you read this, it's just so crazy. This guy was like such a, they were a really, they were a really what do you want to call it? He was one of the, his family was one of the most the best farmers and he couldn't figure out why they couldn't make money and why they kept going into debt more and more and more and more so. And he started asking questions from people like, what is money? How do you get the transactions? Do you know? Where does the money come from? How does it get into circulation? What's the Federal Reserve's role?
And, oh, my God, it's just horrible what happened to him. These sheriff showed up to his house with this huge ketchup bottle and basked it over its face. And then, and tried to kill him and beat the crap out of him. And he survived. And that he wrote this book, and it's amazing. But the what's even amazing about this book is that the book he references are even more amazing than the book he wrote.
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There's there's so much about this. Yeah. And, we're basically the creditors, and that's why we live in a Exactly. Yep. See our
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Sex magic.
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Yeah. We live in a sex magic death cult. It's satanic. And the Illuminati are real. I hear people say, oh, well, tell me tell me one one one Illuminati, and it goes by different names, the brotherhood and, you know, different things. But if you read Jesse Sabotar's affidavits, you'll get a real.
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I mean, the bottom line is you could just write Marie, you can just write on a piece of paper. I loaned you, I loaned you, one piece of silver. And then you just convince the guy that you give the paper to that that note is the same thing as an actual piece of silver ever since they took us off that. It's just horrible what they've done here. It's the fraud is just so inconceivable and it's unbelievable how it's just amazing how much these and forget just like the fact that we don't have money and we only have currency, but it's also when you actually look at fractional reserve banking on top of the fact that there's no money and that we are the creditors and then the banks are allowed to loan out 90% of if you were to go and put $100 better reserve note in your bank account, in your deposit account, you're allowed to take, either allowed to take 90% of that out, so $810 and loan it to somebody else who then deposits it into a bank and then they can loan out 90% of the that $810 and you can see how they multiply the m one money supply.
It's just so fraudulent. It's just so evil. Whoever approved this stuff?
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And what country threw that all away and thrived? Germany. So, of course, they're demonized. The whole hoax never existed. You know? Jewish people need to learn to say, I lost relatives during the war.
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Just let that word
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out. Yep. And this whole thing on 10/07/2023, it's entirely AI.
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Yep.
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Entirely AI. See Matt Gertens, interview with, Max Egan, the crow house, or even just his own, Matt Guertin, g u e r t I n, his last rumble. And, they did this interview, though. It was very good of Max to do that. He'd unusually do interviews, you know, with people anywhere. He just does the walk and talks. But and this was in December. In December 31, Matt had a court date, and he had fired his attorney who was sticking it to him, you know, Ms. Prose and, they want to throw him in the loony bin. Nobody's seen hide in her hair since. So I don't know where he is, but I pray for him too. Yeah.
And he had a patent really good in, you know, just just, I mean, that's what Americans do so often is, especially if they can't go anywhere. So during the lockdown, he's working on this. But he had had all these ideas before, and it sounds simple and it really is. It's just kind of reverse your thinking. He, invented, a rotating treadmill, and they stole his patent and tried to backdate it. You know, I hear people talk about backdating. Well, they did that to him too. And, yeah. Just, you know, because there's so many implications for military and just make Hollywood obsolete because, you know, you don't need all these big sets and cameras everywhere and lighting and all that. It just the actor turns, keeps walking and turns, you know, the things turns and so you only have the one camera, you know, it's a it's just, it's it's very interesting when you think about it, how so many times simple things are are the solution. You know?
But, yeah. But they they wrecked his life. So I don't know where he is or whatever, but it's so happened. We need somebody to do some soldering. And, so this guy was recommended to him, and he was ex CIA and right down the street and stuff. And so while he's down there, who knows what went on in his house, but, you know, they came in and tore his house up and everything too. But, this guy says, OpenAI. And and so that really intrigued Matt, and he got looking into it and just went through because the only thing we have from 10/07/2023 was what was supposed to be coverage by Hamas that they turned over.
Okay? But all this is AI. If you go frame by frame, you can see. And, Charlie on, Moore's show today was talking about CGI. And, you know, that's pixels, but this AI works on a 64 tile grid. And, it breaks apart, including people's heads and and nobody's talking and you just go through it all and you can see it. Well, this is fake. It's all fake. And when you look at the cars, all these burned out cars, they're all either white, gray, or black. And in reality, about 40% of cars are red. There's no red cars. Yeah. I mean, there's just all these different clues, you know? But it it was entirely AI, and they even had, the banner, you know, how they'll do for the news put on the bottom. That came embedded in it.
And to kinda show, which is which is funny, how, they had cameras in both the vehicle dashboard and, also the grenade launcher. Right? So, they have, you know, supposedly the camera from the grenade launcher and then suddenly you're at the camera in the car and you could see the cracked windshield. You know, it's like, we have this and we also have this.
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You know? But it's totally me. They let you they let you see that, but they don't let you see effing.
[03:28:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're not supposed to know what any of it is anyway. You're supposed to accept it. And people do. They're accepting this thing, and they're saying about hostages. I don't think there were any hostages. I don't think there were any hostages at all. It was just an excuse to do what they're doing, the genocide. So but it's pretty interesting anyway. But, you know, reason I boycott, man caught Amazon is because in 2017, a month before Trump's, FBI team, 12 man FBI team went into Israel and busted Michael Rahn, David, Kadar, the, you know, just showing the Israel intel inside. Right? They know what's going on. These rabbis had Bezos destroy hundreds of titles of books discussing the the the holo hopes.
I don't even wanna call it holocaust. It cost somebody. That's for sure. But, yeah, the real Holocaust, of course, were what they did to Dresden. Right. Yeah.
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Yeah. I was gonna just, chime in here really quickly, and I can't remember who I was watching the other day. Oh, I know who it was. It was doctor Jack Crews. Oh my god. He's got some explosive information just about history on YouTube. He's being interviewed by somebody called Breedlove on a channel, and he was talking about, the Jews and how, it wasn't it was a whole a whole a hoax. But what they did was that Rothschild stole all of their wealth, stole everything from them.
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Yeah. Well, I guess some of it, though, you know, it was Rothschild, but they were trying to make them emigrate to,
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Palestine. Oh, yeah. That's what they did. But they also in in in doing so, they stole everything from their houses, stole everything from their bank accounts, stole from them as well. Well, look at all the Israelis that are fleeing now
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from Israel. They shut the airport for a while, but, they're just getting out of there.
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Yeah. What's your point in what's your point in saying that, Rothschild stole everything? That's what they do.
[03:30:56] Unknown:
Exactly. You're correct on that. We're just reiterating the evil. That's it that we already know about. We're venting. We're having a mental, therapy session here, Brent.
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Okay. You got Rothschild Boulevard there and you know?
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You have Rothschild Boulevard. You have Rothschild Incorporated. You have Wilbert Ross. We have we're just fencing. We're just we're just reiterating.
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You know, LBJ is part Jewish, so he's Jewish. And, he, his family back with, Leo Frank. You know about that little deal. Right? And, they were backing him. And then later, I guess it was thirty nine ish when, they were trying to get these Jews to go to Palestine, but he led a bunch of them or he and his family. And Abe Fortas, Abe Fortas is the guy that backed him and wrote the, apparently, the, the, Operation Sinai, the the USS Liberty. And while he was on the bench, he made sure creation would never be taught in schools again. So that's why we're stuck with evolution. Right?
Yeah. But, his family, the Baines, Johnson's, led in all of these Jews to, Texas. So that's why there's so many Jews in Texas. What's the only state that has an Israel day?
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The Florida is both still review.
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They're coming after you. It's the new review.
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Yeah.
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Right. We're basically just beating a dead horse.
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I'm enjoying it. Oh, they let Pete Dittler off.
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Oh, did he? Yeah. Yep. Oh, yeah. I see. The only two charges that they make stick. Right?
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Yep. He can do probably up to ten years if they stretch it out, but the other ones woulda got him life.
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Well, you know, he was groomed by Clive Davis. Alright? He was they were in an affair for years, apparently. Yeah. So that's where he learned his tricks. And Clive Davis goes back, Roger knows, with the all the rock and roll and stuff, and that whole deal is another doo wop.
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Doo wop?
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Yeah. But why they doing all this, you know, when people ask you that? Why you saying all that crap? Why someone wanna do all this to us?
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Because they hate us. Because they hate Christ.
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Yeah. It's something evil, something satanic. The devil is doing all this because we don't live so many years, and this been going on for thousands of years that some since the beginning.
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Let me tell you a little story. About ten years ago, maybe more, fifteen, I was in Miami, and they, celebrate, celebrate a a memory or something like that. And they put the white cross as a form with the names, like a big cemetery in in an area called with a youth park is there are acres and acres. I don't know. 200 acres or something like that. And so they do that for three days, and then you got only only those cross could be there if they have been verified where the the Cuban community. So we went with somebody else, and we're looking. It's impressive. Just imagine Arlington, Virginia, all the veterans dead. It was impressive. Tens of thousands.
And they do this every year. And then there was a man there in Fano, and and then we see the last name. I don't remember the last name. All about 10 crosses, one beside each other. And the gentleman that went with us, he asked him, do you know this? Yes. We were 11 of us, and 10 of us got killed in mister Fidel Castro's in the mountains and, and, and the revolution, whatever, Fidel Castro and 50 something. And then says and we still cannot understand because why this gentleman he told him. Why this gentleman, Fidel Castro, hate his people so much that hundreds of thousand trying to escape through through the wheels of a commercial airlines or planes in the in the Gulf Of Mexico or Gulf Of America now.
And, and then I just told him this. The only thing I said, he's not one of yours. Do you know that he's yours? And that gentleman that gentleman, his eye wide open. It's like he had an epiphany. Like like you said, now I understand after, I don't know, forty, fifty years is now I understand why he hates us so much, and he lost 10 of his, siblings. I don't know if he was the oldest, the youngest out of 11. So it was impressive, but he most of those Cuban community cannot understand that he's not Cuban. And that's why you will see he would they would send tens of thousands to Angola and Africa to protect the wells or the oil wells from, Rockefeller.
And you could see you look at you still could look at it. On YouTube, you just see them sitting together and talking to each other.
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And that's a little story. Well, you know who at Rockefeller's real name is. Right? It's Rogenfelder. They're Jews too. They came over in, like, seventeen something, 50, whatever. But they're Sephardic and came through
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What's their real name, Bert?
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Rogenfelder, r o g g e n f e l d e r. Although I've heard other variations, but I can send you something on that. Okay. Yeah. I'll send you the stuff when I get to my computer about all the other stuff I have on these,
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people on this and Brent and And and the system.
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Yeah. Yeah. And Jason Have you guys
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Go ahead.
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Have you guys seen pictures of Claudia?
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Yes. Claudia Shinebaum.
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Yep. Well, she's ugly.
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I like when they did the profile of her and made her look like the happy merchant. She looks like herself, but then, like, wait a minute. What did they do? They shortened her neck and did a couple things there, you know, playing around. But,
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and Cuba have a central bank too. That's right. They are able to keep functioning.
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And Yeah. Yeah. They say they don't have your they say they don't have a Rothschild central bank, but I think they do. And you can't They do. They do. And you can't freely talk about Christ there either, can you?
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They are they they talk about Christ, but they don't believe in in Christ. They believe in the in the, like, Santeria stuff. You know? Yep. Like Yeah. White people in bush. Well, what the if I'm French referencing,
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the only religion, to put it that way, that, mister Castro did not touch was the temple and the small community of Jewish there. The only one. They they talk to all of these, even the and then they infiltrate a Catholic priest, and they put his own right there. But you have community of Jewish heirs, and they don't have no problems. But every other religion, yes. Plus, they have become animals. You cannot practice any religion. So what do you think is happening here? Little by little, we're fading away from from the truth of Jesus Christ, and that's what's happening.
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That's the difference. There's either believers in Christ or nonbelievers in Christ. They try to make some other division in people, but that's that's the division. And, you know, I had a little thing there, June 2 with Sam Andrews because you've got, like, I don't think he didn't name a denomination, but, you know, they say that, Christ was just a man. He wasn't God, isn't God, and he is. And, so this is how the Noah high of the work. You know? They'll say, oh, no. I don't worship him. So oh, good. You can keep your head. But, was looking up about Khrushchev who's talking it was Mike Gaddy into one of his shows, and he goes, what what do you know about him? And I said, I don't know. I have to research. Well, his last name turns out to be Perlmutter.
And James in Vancouver likes to call in and talk about the huggy bears where David Rockefeller, Rottenbelder, is doing huggy bears with Khrushchev. And I said, yeah. They're both Jews. And I've showed him the information and stuff, but he doesn't you know, he just calls in and says about the Huggie Bears. But people don't wanna hear this, but this is the basis of it because they're rejecters of Christ. But they're not the only ones. It's really Satanism, and they're a part of that. Revelation two nine and three nine.
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He crucified the ship. Hey, guys.
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Yeah? I think somebody was calling for Jeff.
[03:40:46] Unknown:
No. I said he crucified the chef, cruise chef. Oh, okay. Yeah.
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What was I gonna say? I was gonna change the subject here a little bit on you guys. Are any of you guys gonna do the trust class with, Brent Winters?
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I will.
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So here's the thing that I want to tell you guys. I think all of these classes are good to have. I think everybody has more classes that you can take because then you can each the problem with a lot of these people like Trish is that who does the Gatius asset protection is that there's no one cost template that fits everybody. Everybody has different needs, different income levels, different assets and different family situations and stuff. I will say this, when I signed up for Brent, I paid a $175 I think, I don't know, a year ago and I still haven't taken his class. I haven't had time. So I think all of these, trust experts bring different things to the table that when you put them all together are fabulous.
The only thing I would caution you on is that Brent Johnson is factually 100 or not Brent Johnson, Brent Winters is factually 100% incorrect when he says on an irrevocable trust that you cannot be the grantor and the trustee, and that is critical. That is crucial. You definitely want to be the trustee on an irrevocable trust and have control over your assets while you're alive And without it being pierced by creditors, and that is 100% possible to do. Mark has case law on it that shows that this is that you are able to do this. And what you would do is if you were if that trust were ever sued, ever, you know, sued by an outside creditor or an outside party, what you would do is you would immediately resign as trustee and you would either have a successor trustee take over that irrevocable trust during the lawsuit so that it cannot be pierced. And then you can have various provisions in that trust stipulating who can be a successor trustee, what their roles are as a successor trustee, what they can and cannot do with the assets in that trust. And then when the lawsuit is over, you can reinstall yourself again as a trustee of that irrevocable trust. That is really crucial. That's totally wrong. You can't be, again, a trustee of an irrevocable trust. So I just want to let everybody know that. That's one of the things that Mark and Brent differ on big time and Mark's got the case law to back up, what he you know, to back up that this is possible to do. So I just wanna let you guys know that.
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Well, for $30, I think they do to take it because you could get wet your feet, you know, wet your feet with it and learn about it because 100%
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take it. I have I've taken it. I've paid for it. I just haven't had a chance to take the class. And I've listened to all of Trish's, sagaciousassetprotection.com videos, and I have you can go on to rocketlawyer.com and for free for first year seven days, you can create your own irrevocable trust online and then just cancel your membership. You go through a series of menus and you can print that document out and read it and learn about because all a trust is is just an agreement between you and somebody else regarding a house or a car or, you know, money that you put into a trust on how it's supposed to be handled and what can and cannot be done with it. And it protects you from creditors and from lawsuits if it's set up properly. It's just an agreement. And if you can read English, you know, and you can Google some of the maybe legal terminology that you don't understand, you can ask in in fact, it was really funny yesterday in the trust class, there was a we were going over a trust template and people didn't understand what this, paragraph said in the trust agreement. It was all full of legalese and everybody was asking, well, what does that mean? So, Mark took that, paragraph out of the trust template, went to Grok because he's got a monthly subscription with Grok and said, please rephrase this into a more simple English language. And it was unbelievable what Groff did for that paragraph and how it reworded it so that it was so easy to understand.
And so so anyway, so, you know, that I think everybody should take every trust class you can and even there's really good books on Amazon, even though I'm not a fan of Amazon, Murr, but there's really good books on Amazon. You just type in irrevocable trust and you wanna buy those things and, you know, read some of the provisions that you might wanna put in your terms and conditions or your power of authority in your trust documents. So I'm all for taking the more the merrier. The only reason why I'm such a fan of Mark's is that he literally goes through word for word and he's documented with a with a with a cursor. You read word for word on a 16 page document and then he stops. Are there any questions here? Do you understand what this means? You don't? Anybody can ask questions. And any other lawyer that does that, you're gonna end up paying thousands of dollars for something like that. That's just something, different. And we're not just using one trust. There's multiple trusts that we're using. He teaches you how to take two revocable trusts and put them inside an irrevocable trust so that the revocable trust that you have, you know, can be, like, eliminated, liquidated, and you still have the irrevocable trust that over that's over the revocable trust.
So anyway, it's just it's just food for thought and I realize I and I understand that his classes are way more expensive than Brent Winters, but, I think Brent Winters is also a genius when it comes to this stuff too. He's been in it more than like Mark said, but Mark does have some case law and case studies to back up what he says you can and cannot do that is contradictory to what Brent Winters has stated on some of the Friday shows. So, I'm just putting this out there for just FYI for people, to, you know, think about or to mull around.
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Yeah. Thank you. That's good. Yeah. And everybody has their own ideas what they have to do. I mean, Amazon basically cornered the market, you know? Yep. Yep. But this is my principle. I'm not budging. You know? Yeah. People have sent me a couple things from Amazon before, you know, and they're gifts, so that's different. But I won't order from them. I I don't even wanna click on their site.
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Oh, there's other Mar, there's other bookstores you can go to, like there's if you Google past price books, you have Abe books, you have Yeah. I know. Yeah. I canna -archive.org where you can Exactly.
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You don't have to be so yeah. You can use alternative stores just to find Sure. Yeah. You know that. You don't have to be dependent on them. I'm making a statement. Okay? And I will continue to do that because I think people need to shine the light on this. They don't know that they did that Yeah. In 2017. And this is important because we need to know about this hoax, and they destroyed the books.
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Yep. I agree, Mark.
[03:48:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And, Julie, these people made everything complicated because it's not English. They don't speak English. They speak legalist. That's why we are confused when we listen to them talking because we think they speaking in English and they not. And now, they I I understand that they're talking different language, but it's different, you know, because you know that they're not talking the same language that you're talking.
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Yeah. You're correct on that, but there are also some I mean, in the trust templates that, that, that's why you can use AI. I mean, I'm not a fan of AI, but it can be used for good purposes and then it can be used for bad purposes. So I am a fan of using AI for when it comes to legal legalese and learning how to dumb it down. Can you please say what you mean in simple plain English rather than using these, you know, like, stupid terms like writ of quo warrant tow, you know, and, you know, the judge staged the motion. You're like, what the hell does that mean? But that's why AI comes in handy when it comes to this stuff.
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So Yeah. They always tell you we're making law. They not they can make law. They making their opinions in pieces of papers, in fancy pieces of papers, and that's it. It's not law. No. I agree. Opinion.
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Yeah. I agree. But there's ways to dumb it down. There's ways to rephrase it so that an average two year old can understand it. And that, you know, you don't have to be lost in a field of fog looking for the blue star of hope after you're done creating a trust for your family. And once you create one that works for you, you know, you don't have to create the perfect trust the first time around. As long as you have, under a provision called under a section called power of authority, the right to add and change terms in that trust while you are alive, you can go back and take things out and add things to the trust. It doesn't have to be perfect the first time around.
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That's like a will. Yeah?
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A trust is like like, you know, that's your your desire. That's what you wanna do with your stuff. No? Exactly. It's just what you wanna do with your stuff and what you wanna have. If you don't wanna manage the stuff, if you wanna hand it off to somebody else, it's all about, well, what do they get paid and what can they do with what you put in that trust? Like, do they have the power to sell your house or do they have the power to pay the real estate taxes and homeowners insurance inside that trust? Or is that going to be paid by you outside the trust? You know, what on what conditions would they have the right to sell the house? I mean, it's all sorts of just stuff that you would agree on. And it's simple English. And that's what Mark tries to do when it comes to these is dumb the language down to the average human being and take out the legally stuff that's in there that's hard for, somebody who doesn't have a background in law to understand. And that's totally doable.
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Who thinks they own everything in this country? We don't. We own nothing. But you know what? We own nothing. About your trust then? I own I own I own They could stick a fork in that anytime they want. Yep.
[03:51:37] Unknown:
I And if we collapse you on your body, that's it. Which which we're not far from. And, hopefully,
[03:51:44] Unknown:
we we don't start a war that we we're gonna get our ass kicked in because then we really are gonna collapse that much faster. And that's why we're even doing the wars is to keep us from financial destitution.
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Absolutely.
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So we're gonna catch towards I like when you say we. I like when you say we. Like, I don't want I'll tell you what, Bory, is we get bombed by nuclear bomb, if we get hit by nuclear bomb, Bory, that's weak. Nuclear bombs are not real. They hit you with a picture. It's worse than a nuclear bomb because nuclear bombs are not real. Like a picture means that they are real. They are not look at Nagasaki and Hiroshima how they are. If they blow two bombs, nuclear bombs there, why they are people, vegetation, and they are beautiful cities.
And nuclear Popcorn popcorn popcorn. When a nuclear bomb blow up, you got thousands of years that you cannot use that's that area. That's all Middle East. They scare you. They always put fear on you.
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But still people die. They're never gonna do. They're never gonna do.
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These wars, they're not by accident. They want to eliminate America. My trust is in God, not man's trust. Forget man's trust.
[03:53:08] Unknown:
They have to Yeah. They just put fear in you. They don't put they they don't tell you nothing that's real. Just fear.
[03:53:15] Unknown:
Right. Very true.
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Look at the COVID. That that wasn't that wasn't true. They showed you a a video of freaking Chinese falling in the street in China, and everybody in United States start putting masks and vaccinating and all that stuff. That was all made believe. None of that was real. Then people fall for it.
[03:53:42] Unknown:
I would have to disagree with you about that, that none of that was real because they've used five g networks, and they've pulsed it against the people. And I believe that all of those falling on the streets and stuff were real.
[03:53:56] Unknown:
But you could believe whatever, but we are not there to confirm that that was true. You know? Look at all these AI videos that you see nowadays. They they look so real, but they are not.
[03:54:16] Unknown:
I think that some of the stuff is real and some of the some of the stuff is Project Bluebeam or CGI. And I think that's the whole point, which confuses so that we don't know what's what's real and what is not. So we don't know what to believe and what not to believe. And that's part of their confusion and their psyop and their MK Ultra plan, on humanity, which they've been using on us for decades, if not centuries.
[03:54:44] Unknown:
Yeah. And then you don't do nothing because you don't believe in nothing. Look at it right now. People in this country got the rise to god. I don't believe in chain all these because we are not made by the government. If we don't like what people are doing to us, we got the right to defend ourselves. But people are too dumbed down. They think the government is their god. It's like they teach you in communism. The only god that you got is your government. That's it. Nothing And people don't believe in god. That's right. Then I was gonna take your advice because people don't even believe in god.
[03:55:41] Unknown:
And if we truly believed in the, state citizenship, then we should be working on protecting ourselves through that and changing our system versus using men's
[03:55:52] Unknown:
trust. Really, everything that we're doing, we're just doing to protect ourselves from ignorant people out there to get our asses whipped in the street when we're walking and stuff, you know. Like, when you're driving your car, you don't wanna be stopped for a stranger, and he tell you, hey, give me this, give me that. And you're gonna try to tell him that you are this and that. And he's a ignorant. He don't know what are you talking about. That's what we trying to do, to protect ourselves from that. But it's hard because people just doing their job, you know. I'm just doing my job. Give me your papers. That's it.
[03:56:38] Unknown:
Yeah. He's got a family to feed too.
[03:56:42] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah.
[03:56:44] Unknown:
And if he doesn't tow the line, he doesn't have a job.
[03:56:48] Unknown:
That's right. That's right. That's right. It's all about playing his role. You don't see the First Amendment auditors when, you know, the police got, like, a line that they always tell you in the beginning when they meet with you. Once they go over that line, they don't know what to say. They start to line and they tell you anything and because they know that, you know, they don't practice people. Everybody bend over and say, okay, sir. This and that. Okay. You got it. You got it. Whatever you say, you got it. But when people go against that, they he are in trouble.
They twitch him.
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There's too few of us to be able to challenge our same names. Supposedly, it's a 3% to 15%. I don't think we're even one quarter percent. The problem is is people love bread and circus until they don't lose everything or they lose some family member or or food or other material things, they won't wake up. Look at every country. Look for the last two, three thousand years. So it's the same thing. While there's all this rest for the young people, while they're having fun every weekend and be able to go out and buy stuff in Amazon and hang out and go to the different boutique restaurants, it's just really hard to get their attention.
Well, everything's been planned that way. The short expansion, but also the older people, they they just don't wanna rock the boat. They don't wanna hear the truth. And I think as as what Murrah says, when you're disconnected from God, it's it's really hard to get their attention. Even even the religious people that go to church every Sunday, they're all also disconnected. This this is almost no. They're not gonna challenge their pension, as Samuel said, their job and, and their careers and and, and their retirements and their and their material things, their house.
We're in that I think there's eight stages that prosperity that you think you have everything. And but you really don't have nothing?
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We better hope nuclear weapons are real because it's about the only thing left that we have that might work to protect us, and nobody's gonna come to help us when we're down. Nobody.
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Just read the That's right. That's right. Tarvationates
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tarvationates in the meanwhile. You know?
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We're so hollowed out as a country. I mean, it's just we build these so sophisticated weapons that they don't even work. I mean, our f 30 fives, they sell for something like between 80 and a $110,000,000. It takes two years to build one. In World War three, we built b 17 bombers that could carry 18,000 pound bomb load. We built 360 of them a month. I mean, we are so far from being superior anymore in any category, technological, military, we're toast. And all we need is a is a guy like Donald Trump who thinks we're still in World War two times to get us all killed.
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If you look at Russia, they produce military equipment with 10% of our cost, and then they function much better than us.
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Yeah. We don't still have a hypersonic weapon.
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Yeah. And the people there are more hardy than us. That's another thing. We're we can most young people came and run a mile, just jogging or even walking. And, and they're not hardy no more. So you're you're absolutely right.
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They say that f 35 for every hour it flies, it needs between five and eleven hours to maintain it. How are you gonna keep sending we have so few of these things. How are you gonna keep sending them out in a in a sustained battle? I mean, that's the thing with with World War two. We we had lesser weapons than Germany, but we cranked them out in such high volume that it didn't matter. Germany was never gonna prevail.
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Sammy, do you, do you remember in the Iraq in the early two thousands, supposedly only only one tank fit in the in the cargo planes of military planes going to Iraq, and there's supposed to be two. It's just who who miscalculated that? You know? Things like that. Yeah.
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We're we're completely incompetent compared to what we I mean and there were still a lot of grafting problems in World War two. We had two scientists here that actually built the first gen engines before the Germans did, but they weren't accepted by our military.
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I didn't know that. That's true?
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Yeah. In California here, there were, there were prototypes built, but they they were never allowed by the Department of Defense to be put into production and tested. I mean, we were and then they when they stopped building the the the b seventeens, which all the guys who rode those babies loved them. We built the b 24, and they call that one the flying coffin, but they could build them faster and even more. They they put out, like, 650 of those a month. And but they were dangerous to be in because of the way they were built and because of the huge amount of stress on the airframe that it had. If it got, you know, one twenty millimeter cannon through it, it might not survive it. So where the b seventeens, some of those flew back without skins on them.
They they were they were awesome planes, but, you know, the military went ahead and built something that didn't protect its people in order to, play with, whether or not they could get, more range and stuff out of the plane instead of protecting the crew. I mean, that's just the way it was. And,
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if Germany would have pulled out that warping they had and they were last one more year probably, they would not be able to stop. And they will supply Japan and all that thing. You know, they said that Russia is the one who won over to against the Germans. But Russia lost 20 to one with Germany. 20. It was 20,000,021 to one
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because their equipment And we supplied them with tremendous amounts of material.
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And their equipments was not even a mesh, whatever they had, the Soviet Union, whatever you wanna call them. It's not even a mesh or whatever the Germany had. So they just kept on sending, like, sort of like Chinese kept on sending. And and, yeah, they they got lure in, and they were spread out. Now they were being attacked by different fronts, the Germans, but they would have those those, military equipments, those shots, and all things. I I don't think they would be able to stop. Well, that t 34 tank was, a match for the Germans, but that thing, who knows who who designed and built it?
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Part of the suspension in there was an American inventor. I know that, but I've tried to because the Soviets at the time I mean, we gave them 800,000, trucks. We gave them millions of pairs of shoes. They couldn't produce anything for their soldiers. And you you can give a guy all the all the weaponry in the world, but he doesn't have a pair of shoes in in that environment, you're not gonna get very far. We supplied all this, and we we brought it most of it up through Iraq. That's why Russia doesn't wanna see that under our control.
You know? I mean, I'm glad we have opposition to this country. I just so sad for our country that we don't have any leadership anymore. You know? We don't produce anything anymore. I mean, we're just in sad shape. Yet we we got the gorilla up there beating his chest like he's King Kong. You know? He's just a stupid little monkey, in my opinion.
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You know? I think I think what George Patton, they were thinking that he should have gone straight to Moscow instead of to Germany.
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I think Oh, he wanted to. He was keeping German, regiments together. Yeah. And but He wanted to go in and finish the job.
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But maybe the best thing would have been to make a u-turn and go to England and stop all those.
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Yeah. That's this
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this was the real reason for World War one and World War two. It was England. Didn't want the competition along with France from Germany. That was pretty much the bottom line. I mean
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There's a, a quote, during World War two from, Winston Churchill where he he says, we will fight on the streets. We will fight on the beaches. We will fight on the hills. We will fight in the forest. But if by chance, we should, you know, basically lose, our what does he say? What he says something like, our new world will come to our rescue. Our United States, his, our, England, our United States, he says, the new world in all its glory will come to the rescue, basically. You gotta look up that speech. We will fight on the beaches. We'll fight that I had an epiphany that day. I was listening on on John Moron's show. He used to play that clip in its entirety every day.
And one day, it hit me. One day, it hit me, and I'm like, oh my god. You know, I was always trying to figure out what's the new world order. What does that mean? And it they nailed it right there. It's the new world. The US was the Jew world order. And and I called him, and I mentioned that on the show. And he said, oh, no. I disagreed. He hung up on me. And he never played that clip again in its entirety where he did he he just played a tiny bit of it where it didn't say none of that. He took out the new world and the you're not there United States. It was look it up, man. It's, like, right in your face, baby. But they see, today, they they Trump has to have them bomb us, okay, so we can beg them to, you know, fight back, save us, whatever their their plan is, but they don't want us to survive. There's no way. I gotta take a call. I'll be right back.
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That little island, England, has done so much havoc in the last couple of centuries. You look from Japan to to Hong Kong, China, Middle East, all the problem we have, Middle East, this they created all this division, those countries. You go look at South America, Paraguay, Argentina, the South Africa. Everywhere you look, that little island with their maritime ships, they have gone everywhere where there's materials or raw
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raw China, the opium wars. I mean, they've got a black eye everywhere in the world, you know, according to, you know, they're just
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And then they get when when they conquer one country, they recruit those people and Indians from India, and then they go and conquer China with those troops. So usually, it's just Englishmen. They're just 10 to 20% of the troops they have when they at least in the last two or three centuries, when they invade and they create this rivalry and, ethnic group between each other with, the red coat, dressing.
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Yeah. And then we keep we keep thinking too. We we're gonna build, you know, more of these big weapons that are gonna stop everything. Well, it's so being proved wrong right now in in the the Russian Ukraine war. I mean, these freaking drones are the battlefield. You you throw a tank out there, a a stinking little couple thousand dollar drone is gonna blow it up. I mean, it has changed so much. And even the Russians weren't ready, but they've adapted well. And now they're getting the upper hand. And, I listened to an an a a guy that works for the Russian drone department, and he says how they started out and then what they did and how they changed this and that and tried to adapt. I mean and and, man, that's gotta be hell on the troops because they've got so many of these things in the air all the time.
A poor GI can't get out of his foxhole and take a piss. I mean, it's that tight. They're saturating the air with all the surveillance, and, I just see this shit coming home to us, you know, and surveilling us because all these wars that get fought in the world, people lose freedoms. And now the Chinese are making one. They say the size of a mosquito for surveillance. Just I don't I should stop talking about it. I'm getting I'm getting depressed. Go do something positive. Yeah. It's a mess. We're in a mess, and we better hope that Trump can put a new face on this ugly baby that he's made so far. I mean, if he needs to come to peace with the Russians and the Iranians, or we're just gonna sink that much faster the way I look at it.
[04:12:02] Unknown:
Take a deep breath. No. A deep breath. Let's breathe and practice breathing. I am so happy that all you guys are still on this side of the plane because you really helped me, put thoughts together and and, just just feel good and alive. And that's all we have. As far as trust are concerned, I trust my creator. And, you know, I don't I came into this mortal plane with nothing, and I plan on leaving the same way. I don't need any of this materialistic poopy because I know that I'm gonna go someplace else, and hopefully, it'll oh, maybe for a while. I don't know. Life gets real boring in a paradise, in in a perfect world. We need this kind of adversary from time to time, I believe.
Looking at it on a everlasting type plane, I don't know if you guys have ever pondered eternity, but it's quite long, quite short too depending on where you're at. Yeah. As far as the currency is concerned, how many of you know the four elements that make a banking note? I'm sure Brent does, but I don't know if everybody else does. And why we would call these things federal reserve notes when they're just half a note behoos me. I'm perplexed at why we don't call them what they really are. And when I do, and I have for years, I get strange looks and sometimes a query that'll, be interested in it.
Because when a a clerk or somebody tells me that'll be $5.53, I have to correct them. I said, no. We don't have dollars anymore. And then I define what a dollar is, and I define what money is, and I tell it what it truly is. And I've distilled it down to Satan's slave shekels, and, that's all about that. Anyway,
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I'll give my brain cell a rev from talking. Thank you for listening. So we we were given the the promise to pay by people who never pay anything themselves.
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Yes. And the wars that, they created, pitting one Christian side against another is it's behooving. It's twilight zone. It's who in the holy hell would concede or consent to even sign up to go fight these bloody morons? Crap. I I don't know. I I learned this when I was 16. I was at the point where, you know, Nixon stopped the draft, and I didn't even sign up for it because I quit school,
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which was
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one of the funniest and best things I ever did. But, yeah, it's behooving.
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Samuel, and they
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they think that Iran that survived the Mongols survived Alexander the Great and so on and so on. Have you seen Ayatollah? People think they're all in camels and they're all brown people, and they're not. Ayatollah, one of the leader, commanding, whatever his name is, he is he has white hair. He is pure white. He looks like ghost, like a ghost. And, and people think all these leaders up there, they just try to demonize, this race or persons or whatever there is. And they have more history. They understand more culture and history in many ways.
And, and, they think they're all I'm not saying they don't or they do, but, I have heard some of them say they know they practice a lot of them practice Muslims, but that's not their religion. And, and they know that area was was the the epicenter of Christianity. So you got this Syrian Christianity there and, in the northern part I ran to. So the creator of Christiana is over there. So they know more than what we think, and they have learned to survive all this, Mongols fighting and and trying to inflate and steal, and I'm talking about the 22.
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They were one of the few armies that ever kicked the Romans' ass on a regular schedule.
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Yeah. I forgot about that too. Yep.
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I mean, they're a great country. They some of the best universities in the world, technically speaking, but they're right up there with MIT. They you know? And they're they're a blend of peoples, and that's why there is a little bit of internal strife until we bomb the crap out of the country along with the Israelis. Now they're more united than they ever were.
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And they're the few country their leaders say, we need to destroy the Zionist. So when our media starts saying they wanna destroy Israel, they never say that. At least I have never heard that. No. But, you know, we can't speak their language or they're they just tweak a little bit to to to accommodate their theory.
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Israeli tactic right now, I listened to this guy the other day, is they're calling up guides in powerful positions in the country and threatening them and their family if they don't make a statement against the supreme leader, and they give them twelve hours to do it. We know where you live. We know, you know, where your family's at. This is what they're doing right now.
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May I?
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Yes.
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I wanna go back to what that guy was saying. Who was that before who was talking about the he's leaving here with nothing, he came here with nothing. What was his name? Gregory. Hey, Gregory. I wanted to talk to you about what you think you just said you wanna one of the four things that make up a banking note. I'd like to know what you think my thoughts are. The Treasury makes it up, the Federal Reserve makes it up, and We The People are, the third thing, as our labor is backs it up in the full faith and credit part on the note and then the, the actual promise to pay in terms of a note, the fake dollar on it with the promise to pay. I don't know if I got that right or not, but I'd love to hear your, your answer to that.
Maybe he's not on anymore.
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But now I'm here. I I got you. I just had to unmute. No. I you you took me out of context, which is part of our language, I suppose. We need to define our terms before we can have a decent conversation. But what I wanted to say was there's four elements that create a banking note, the maker, the amount, the due date, and who it was paid out to. Right? Before 1964, it used to say at the bottom of the dead guy's, head, payable to bearer on demand. And so you'd slap down that piece of paper, and he'd give you if it was a dollar bill, then he would give you a dollar. And a dollar is 365 point or 361.
I forget. Brent, you help me. Brent knows about this because he read the book too. He's got it. It's called Money by James Ewart, and it explains all the definitions of what is and what isn't as far as that's concerned. And when I tried to explain that to John Sattmiller and Robbie McDonald back in those days, and I told him that, I I called him Rothschild slave shackles or slave tokens. And it wasn't much longer after that that I was hit with some kind of energy shit, man, and I tore me up. And I'm down to five and a half teeth right now because my teeth went into a spasm. It was like a concert of different pain signals and frequency going through my head.
I wanted to put some lead there to, alleviate the pain. I don't know why I didn't. Hell, I had plenty of morphine I could take, but I didn't do that. I didn't even think about it. That's they're not they can they've had and have had energy machines and all. And that's another thing too. We don't need all of nuclear poopy when you got energy machines and frequencies that can, remember the the first Iraq war where all the Iraqis just jumped out of their tanks and everything else, and they just peacefully just pawned a surrender? That's the kind of shit that they've got.
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Well, yeah. And also, Gregory, they don't want a nuke our No one's gonna nuke our land here. They need our land. They don't wanna destroy the natural resources, so they'll use the direct energy weapons. Now China just came out with, drones that are smaller than a mosquito that can just, land on you, inject you, and and and generate a heart attack. So there's so much easier things to get rid of a population that they have that they've had forever. And I'm sure that mosquito drone has been around forever as well, but you're right.
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Yeah. So enjoy every precious moment you have. That's the only way I was just the present, and that is a present that was given to us by our creator. And, yeah, I get a little choked up just thinking about it.
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Yep. So I always say today is the present, yesterday is a canceled check, and tomorrow is not guaranteed.
[04:22:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Both. I truly believe that. That's that's very well spoken. Thank you.
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But, that being said, I still I have the I have the anxiety and the faith over fear, but I still have the, I just cannot believe what's going on in this world on a daily basis. And I do try to enjoy part of my day, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I have bad times during every day. But I that's what I love and appreciate about all of you in this group. It's like we're all on the same playing field. We all believe more or less exactly the same. And it helps having a different family like this to be able to come together and speak among among ourselves and share our truths that we know.
I mean, it just gets I get chills. I mean, this I look forward to these after calls every day with you guys. I love you all so much. You're all my brothers and sisters from a different mother. And I'm I'm here for all of you, too. I hope all of you guys know that there's I take my shirt off my back for any and all of you.
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Yeah. I'm the same Thank you. You. Same thing.
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I love all because it's true. You. Love all, trust you, try to paddle my own canoe, but I really, really, really like you guys. I I I I just like you a lot. I try to stay away from the h word because Rosemary told me it was foulest word you could ever speak. It's the h with eight on the end of it, and and that's all I got to say about that. And thank you, Boring and everybody out there again.
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Yes. I I know Roger. I saw him in the show of Sarah Webster and Tim Brown. I was like, wow. I was praying to God to, you know, give me give me something because I'm losing my hope. You know? And I need you guys. My life has changed a lot. Totally. Driver says nothing changed. No. Everything changed. Once you know this, it's impossible to put it back in the bottle. It's impossible. That's it. It's like when you put the toothpaste out of the tube, you cannot put it back. It's impossible. You wanna be here listening to this.
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Sorry. Is that when you Yes. Is that is that when you first Yes, ma'am. Saw and heard Roger was on Tim Brown?
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In in in Sarah Webster. Yeah. I saw him, Tim Brown in Sarah Webster. Yeah. And I call and Paul received me. Yeah. Yeah. And I did all the paperwork shit real quick.
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Yeah. Sons of Liberty, Tim Brown. That's
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Yeah.
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That's when you first saw and heard
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Roger. Yeah. And and Tim Brown. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's great.
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And when I saw him quick, I was come because Roger don't tell you. He show you where it is. You know? It's different. Because he don't tell you this is what I know. He tell you this is where it is and how it is.
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Yeah.
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So do you still listen to Tim Brown sometimes?
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Yeah. Yeah. I listen to him. Yeah.
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Okay.
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And Stupider's being white is gray. Stupider is crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Old Stew. He's I'm so surprised they haven't killed him.
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Well, I don't know. He he's something else. I I mean, he's got some big hones. Yeah. Real big. What about what about James Corbett and Whitney Webb? And and I used to listen. I wonder what happened to But James Corbett live in Japan. You know?
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Stupiders live here.
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Yeah. But, the one world order can knock off anybody with their satellites.
[04:27:52] Unknown:
That's true. That's true. Like, Roger been saying this for a long time, and they haven't do nothing to him because, I don't know, some of us got god around us. I always been blessed.
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Yeah. It's hard to say how this is gonna play out. It certainly is, interesting to be around to watch it. That's and that's why I like doing it. I mean, after I get off this wonderful call, I I go to, you know, RVN to to listen to Fetzer where I'm late at. But, then I go to Stew or see what Corbett's done. I like Del Bigtree too on the high wire. That's that's, he's trying to get it out. Yeah. He's No. I didn't hear anything talked about on that turncoat Kennedy who's wanting us all to wear wearables
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now. You know what those wearable thingies are. Oh, yeah. And then he was saying that he liked for every American to use one. Yeah. He's he's in the club. You know, people don't understand. Anybody that is in politics and is up there in the TV, in the press, It's somebody that's controlled. They're not gonna put somebody there. They it's not controlled. Look at Kanye West, what they do to him when he tries to tell you something. He don't talking BS. He don't tell you a lie. That's right. They what they do? They close his bank account. They put him in a crazy house.
These people are powerful. They control all the law, all the justice system, all the press. You know? That's right. To go against the grain.
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Be afraid. Be very afraid. And that's what I love about you all is that, you don't have the fear. You got the guts and the balls it takes to, just write a simple little letter to some moron and some moronic place. Mhmm. And tell him, hey. I'm not You know what? Man,
[04:30:13] Unknown:
Roger give me so much power when I know him. I used to drive my car, and I saw a police officer, and I used to feel that I was gonna do it in my pants. You know? And now it's like it's different. It's different. The other day, I see a police in a store just you know, that they go to the store and they stand there just drinking coffee and doing nothing. And I tell him, hey. Are you on break? And he was freaking out asking if he was on break. You know? And my friend was like, what are you doing? Why are you asking me that? And I tell him, because he's not on break. He's not supposed to be here eating it hitting the tax dollars of the people. You know? He's stealing. He's a thief. He he's doing that. He's breaking the law.
And then he wanna enforce the law on you. Oh my gosh. He told me that why I asked him that. And I tell him because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to be doing a job serving the people, and you're not doing it right now. Yeah. And, you know, stuff like that.
[04:31:32] Unknown:
And waiting for a call to, maybe maybe, bust a sex trafficker or some, other heinous type of criminal that's really doing some really bad poopy. But, no, they protect those morons, and, they extract, you know, their, revenue from us, people that, they don't you know, that they can do it. The easy victim, the easy target. That's all they're after. They're they're a bunch of I don't like, those thieves that wear badges and drive around in fancy cars and even wear guns. Good lord. These guys with a 100 or less IQ are allowed to carry firearms for crying out loud, and then they tell us that we can't.
Give me a break. Oh, jeez. I'm I'm to the point of loading up. You know what I mean?
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Well, I don't can carry here where I live. You know? That's the that's why it's not trying here because I live in a small town and, you know, the police take advantage of the people that come outside the town. This is like a tourist town, you know. I live in Williamsburg and it's where the colonists live and all that stuff. And a lot of people from that town come here and the police concentrate in that, you know. Like, I noticed that they don't mess around with the people that live here. They always you always see a car with different plates from another state, you know. Because they know that that person is not gonna come back or go to court or something, You know? It's easy money.
You're gonna pay the ticket, and that's it.
[04:33:27] Unknown:
Easy slave shackles. Yeah. They're criminals. They they are legal criminals. They make their legal laws to, protect themselves and, their other, the other criminals. I mean, I was dealing with some criminals here that, stole from me, and I call up the cops, and they won't even come out to check up on it. But they want me to go down and file these liens and this, that, and everything else and reports. They're gonna cost me slave shackles and my precious moments. And, Yeah. I'm I'm beside myself. I I did finally eradicate them, but not totally because they got a couple of keys to some vehicles that I they were they were spending their moments in over.
[04:34:22] Unknown:
Yeah. These people are like the mafia. You know? If you don't pay them, they give you a fine. They put you in jail. They kick your butt. They are like the mafia. Nothing different than when I was little and I live in the neighborhood, and it was a guy that run the neighborhood. And everybody run by the stuff that he says. Even though he was a stupid guy, he was the one with the power. You know? He killed people. He he run the place, and that's what these people do. They tell you you're a criminal. They make you a criminal because they put their policies in a piece of paper, and you think that's law.
Mhmm. And but they are the criminals.
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10 poor. That's a big 10 poor. Good buddy. Yeah. That that I mean, you just said it. That's it's you know, watch The Godfather, and that's that pretty much tells it all. Right?
[04:35:28] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. They've been telling us in movies for a long time. Man, and it's it's when you wake up, you see it everywhere everywhere because they don't hide it. That's why they tell you, can you spell it for me? Can you spell it for me, please? You under a spell all your lives. We're living a lie.
[04:35:55] Unknown:
Yeah. That's another truism. Living the lie. And and most of these humans, they love their lie. They I mean, I've got people around me all over the place. It's like a bunch of zombies because they love their lie. And if you tell them the truth, man, they treat you like a vampire and put up the cross and don't talk to me. Get away. Get away. It's so dystopic. It's Twilight Zone.
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People at my job, they keep telling me that they're waiting for me to go to jail because what I'm doing is in legal. You know? They are so brainwashed. The they think that what I'm doing is all because I think that it is like that. No. It's unbelievable. Hey. But people there is not looking for this. You cannot tell them, because they look at you like you got three eyes.
[04:37:04] Unknown:
Well, they're so far removed from the truth. They don't have the guts to face it, and it keeps them stagnated in their their dystopic reality. We're and that's what I really gleaned from y'all is is, we're searching for truth. We want the truth. We're addicted to the truth more than anything else. And it's, enlightening. It's invigorating. It it gives me a lot of energy. And I thank you again. I can't give you enough accolades, by golly.
[04:37:44] Unknown:
Man, I feel the same way, man. Thank all of you. Every everyone in here, everyone that's in in the cause and in here right now, they bring something that when I hear somebody talking, I learn something new every day. That's why I can't wait to be here. Sometimes I call at 02:00 in the morning to see if somebody is here. You know, when you that's night that, you know, that you can't sleep. Let me see if somebody's in there.
[04:38:17] Unknown:
Mhmm. By the way by the way, Boris, we do have three eyes. We have that extra eye where you see things, but
[04:38:24] Unknown:
other people cannot see.
[04:38:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We see things, and we hear things that other people cannot see. Yeah. And God tell you, there is gonna be people that gonna be deceased because they cannot see or hear the truth. It's like a poison for them, you know, like, crystallized for Superman. Get out of here. Don't tell me that. You know, and and Hey. I I am I am almost almost almost ready to return my car place and my title. I got my my plates with my DOT number already. I'm just, you know, learning more and gaining gaining strength to to do it. And, the other day, I received a letter from the it looked like from the DOT, but if these people that they send you letters, they my register my number need to be updated with something else, you know, but that's for people that is under commerce.
And I called the DOT, and they told me that I'm good because I had a private number there. I'm not for commerce, you know, because they ask you for mileage and stuff that you drive during the year, you know, How many deliveries and stuff like that, I guess. And they send you letters, and they look so, like, official. You know? That you it's you're not, you know, like, coming to this call every day and, you know, that they try to BS us too many times. You go and pay that money, and that's it. Because he tell you, if you don't do this, it's gonna be $10,000 fine, and nobody wants $10,000 fine. You know?
[04:40:28] Unknown:
Or jail time. Boy, howdy. I had to go there just over a thousand slave shackles that, I wasn't willing to fork up to the judge after a year of going to, court on a, I didn't have permission from my masses to, put up a building. Yeah. Oh, man. Talk about, oh, I wish I was a national then.
[04:41:05] Unknown:
Could you imagine twenty years back, you're learning all this when you was man. Oh my god.
[04:41:18] Unknown:
Well, I heard Roger, and the first time on Spingola speech way back in the day, but I had already quit paying taxes. I quit paying, like, in 9899 because, Bill and Hillary, those morons, it wanted, you know, to take more of my right to, own a firearm. And then in retrospect, that's kinda petty now because there's so many different types of ways to defend yourself. But regardless, yeah, I I went under Erwin's shift, and we know what happened to him. But I was able to, fend off their blows, and then I just quit, communicating with them and went underground. And and I didn't think any need to, you know, to look further into it.
And then by happenstance, I I got a hold of well, he was on RBN, you know, when he had that, show on Sunday taking over Ralph's Winter Road spot. And then it started clicking and clicking, and then finally, I stumbled on, this conference call, and I've been hooked ever since. Much love.
[04:42:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Whenever you you're listening here, you're not gonna listen nowhere else. When I learned about money, I was like, wow. I go to I go to this place every day, and I don't even make money. It's all made believe. Well, money, time,
[04:43:27] Unknown:
language, and government are the four pillars of the feudal system, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, yeah. That that's what their whole foundation is. It's all man made. It it had nothing to do with natural or the ways of nature. In fact, their goal is to, separate us from our our third eye and realizing the truth. Truth is, it's a, you know, evil thing to them. It's they hate it. They they love to use fear to keep us away from it, and that's one of our main our main, drawbacks. And unless you can face your fear, you're gonna be trapped in it. Fear destroys and only employs more fear as far as I can see.
I've seen that for a long time. And I tried to practice.
[04:44:33] Unknown:
Shit. You're telling me when I send that letter to the passport office, I was shaking in my pants. And the passport took, like, a a week longer than what it's supposed to. You know? And I was afraid, you know? And when I received that passport, I was like, oh my god. This really worked. Because, you know, I I in my situation, I wasn't able to get a passport. You know what I mean? But when I did it like this, I get my passport. I knew that all this was true. And these people are scared of this knowledge. But they stay quiet, and it's it's rare the these people stay quiet.
[04:45:41] Unknown:
Yeah. The truth hurts. It's very painful. Saying that you're wrong is extremely hard on those that have a calcified pineal gland or pineal gland. I got some gas coming. You all be well. I gotta go for a minute.
[04:46:04] Unknown:
Okay. Okay.
[04:48:20] Unknown:
Is anybody still here? Is everybody gone?
[04:48:24] Unknown:
I'm here, Yulee.
[04:48:26] Unknown:
Is that it? You and me, Boris?
[04:48:29] Unknown:
I was talking to somebody else, but he got a phone call.
[04:48:34] Unknown:
Oh, that's No. I got gas.
[04:48:37] Unknown:
That was that was Gregory. That was Gregory. Gregory. He had any gas? Yeah. Is there a Gregory just said Gregory just said he had to get gas, so he farted.
[04:48:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Propane. I wish I had parts that big to fill up my propane tank.
[04:48:59] Unknown:
Oh, come on, Gregory. We heard Gregory, we heard it.
[04:49:08] Unknown:
Mhmm. You'll be surprised when people sell farts in the Internet, and they make money with that. That's crazy.
[04:49:14] Unknown:
Yep. I hear a little kitty in the background. Who has a kitty?
[04:49:21] Unknown:
My cat. She's driving me nuts.
[04:49:24] Unknown:
Oh my god. I hear her right now. So cute, Rory. Yeah.
[04:49:28] Unknown:
Because I don't pay any attention to her, you know. I'm talking to you guys and I'm entertaining the conversation, you know. And she's like looking for attention.
[04:49:39] Unknown:
She's so cute.
[04:49:41] Unknown:
She's spoiled. She's spoiled.
[04:49:44] Unknown:
I think all animals should be spoiled.
[04:49:48] Unknown:
Do you like this? Yeah. We are the only animal in this world that paid for living. It's crazy.
[04:49:55] Unknown:
Yep. Did somebody say my name?
[04:49:57] Unknown:
I did. It's Brenda. I was just wanting to ask your background a little more. I've just been on the calls a little bit here and there. So but it seems like you're very knowledgeable in a lot of areas, and I was just wondering kind of what your background was.
[04:50:17] Unknown:
Well, you'll see I have a CPA and an MBA, with double concentrations in marketing finance, economics, and general business. And I've just basically been an entrepreneur my whole entire life.
[04:50:32] Unknown:
You really used to work for the enemy.
[04:50:34] Unknown:
And I've worked at exactly. I've worked at the I've worked at the office of the controller of the currency and FDIC and audited banks before. And, so, I mean, that that's basically, you know, my my background here. And I've been in, like I said, five the financial and the real estate industry for pretty much all my life. Mhmm.
[04:50:56] Unknown:
But You forgot they're more important, a truth seeker.
[04:51:00] Unknown:
Yeah. And yeah. Exactly. And as Bory says, I'm a huge digger. Like, I literally get on Federal Register, and I read the executive orders, and I download them, and I read a lot. So, and these satanists have to tell you, Brenda, what they're gonna do. They have to tell you what they're gonna do and it's up to us to figure it out. If we don't figure it out, then they feel justified in doing what they're gonna do. So, you know, like, for example, COVID COVID nineteen COVID stands for your certificate of vaccination. I. D. COVID stands for the digital I. D. They put in your arm without your permission to track and trace you if you got the wrong lot of vaccine. And then what does 19 stand for? First letter in the alphabet. Most people think it stands for the year 2019.
First letter in the alphabet, a ninth letter is I. That's artificial intelligence. And then you look at the five gs network and you look at Starlink and you look at Space Force, and you look at how they're gonna hook us up to the Internet of things. And then, you look at, you know, so No. The Internet of bodies. Yeah. It's a body. You're the wide area wide area body network or whatever you wanna call it. But they tell you what they're gonna do and they oftentimes tell you that in the executive orders, in the bills they pass in Congress, but the bills they pass are oftentimes given to them the night before, the 3,000 pages long, and these people are all bought and paid off and they pass it. And, nobody has a chance to read 3,500 pages overnight. Same thing with this big beautiful bill. I have it downloaded. It's over a thousand pages, and I can search for things in it. It's the worst thing that could ever happen in anybody's life with what's going on. I mean, it literally increases our deficit by $4,000,000,000,000 It it it still literally steals from the poor and enriches the rich even more. It cuts from Medicare.
You know, they just don't most people don't like to read anymore, Brenda. And I understand why. Most people don't have the time. And that was designed on purpose because we're debt played. So work, work, work and then pay taxes. And even though, you know, you become a national and you're out of the tax system, you're really not out of the tax system. If you go and take your electric bill and your all your utility bills really take a ruler and go down that whole entire bill and highlight all of the taxes you're paying and then take what that bill is and what percent of taxes you're paying in that bill. And it's twenty, thirty, 35% of that bill is taxes.
Everything is tax, tax, tax, tax, tax.
[04:53:34] Unknown:
Oh, I know. Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. And and, you know, a lot of us are just waking up to they've been telling us what they were gonna do in our face for years, but,
[04:53:46] Unknown:
didn't realize it until we've had this dig in deeper to stuff. So yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, I and then I I don't know. God brought people into my life. So God bought brought Deborah Tavares into my life. Oh my god. And he brought a man Javi into my life. Those two people are just geniuses. I mean, a man Javi, I talk to him all the not all the time, but I talk to him, I would say, frequently. And he has all the patents on facial recognition software. He worked in, all of the startup companies, and assigned his patents in Silicon Valley. And then he determined he found out that what he was basically working on was going to be used against We The People.
And now he has new data that all these LED lights are horrible for you, horrible for your, horrible for your, your health. And then, Deborah, to verify Your radiation?
[04:54:42] Unknown:
Your eyes?
[04:54:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Everything. It's called that. And then they, you know, lot they, tried to phase out incandescent bulbs, which are the healthiest types of bulbs for you. You know, Deborah Tavares, she has been a huge thing about frequencies forever. She downloaded all the documents from the Council of Foreign Relations, the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, the World Health Organization, and those documents you have to find on the archives or dark web now because cause they don't exist anymore, but they're on her website, Brenda. So she's educated me in all this stuff. And then I did a huge project, for her on all of the patents that DARPA has, on frequencies to kill you and me. That was a that was a really hard project I did because that was nine pages long, and I was just shaking my head during the whole thing. And then, you know, I don't know. Then I started losing everybody as family members and friends because I really don't wanna be around anybody who's supporting, who doesn't wanna wake up, who doesn't wanna read and research, and who doesn't wanna align with what's going on right now. And it's just going through life as la titata.
I can't I can't be around anybody's energies who thinks that this is just a grandiose world that we're in knowing that we're being murdered literally every day we wake up with the poisonous air and the water and the chemtrails. It's just it's just so evil that I have to be on channels like this with people who are in alignment with what's going on so we can share information because a lot of this they're doing this to attack our mental sanity and to attack us as to attack our daily lives, to make it horrible for us. And I think the more that we have groups like this that can help each other and where we can get on and vent.
And then we know that what we're saying is, is a truth. And everybody on here is 99% or 95% in agreement with what's happening. I just think that that's really help help. That's really healthy. And if they can manifest this, we also can manifest that they don't get away with this. So now that's what I do when I research and I find things out. I close my eyes and I try to manifest and pray to the universe that, please have some good people who have the power to block this. Please, please have the please, you know. So, for example, that big, beautiful bill, which is nothing but a big, horrible bill, a big, bad bill.
It looks like Thomas Massie now has the votes in the House of Representatives to block the block that bill. So, you know, it's just one day at a time. For me, it's one hour at a time, Brenda. Yeah. I don't even have the mental sanity to get through a whole day.
[04:57:35] Unknown:
Julie, in forty seven years, these people never had done something that benefits us. It's always for their
[04:57:43] Unknown:
own,
[04:57:45] Unknown:
you know, their own agenda.
[04:57:47] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. And then, you know, and then and then, you know, Brenda, I also, I, you know, I don't I'm probably the harsh I'm my own worst enemy. Like, I sometimes will just talk to myself and I'm like, how could you be so stupid? And how could how could you be so dumb that you didn't figure this out a long time ago? Like, you know, I don't know. You know, I'm my worst worst critic. I wish I I wish I would have known about this a long time ago. But then part of me says today when I see people outside happy go lucky every day, some part sometimes part of me says, I wish I didn't know any of this at all. I wish I didn't I wish I was dumb and just didn't know. And I was going through life every day, like, oh, it's a beautiful day, and our government's so great. Yeah. But I know I'm here for a reason. I know that our creator is put me in this situation, Lori.
[04:58:38] Unknown:
So I know. Oh, my god. I would sometimes I scream that I wanna wake up from this dream because people tell me what I gonna do. Hey. What are you gonna do in this holiday? And I'm like, what?
[04:58:53] Unknown:
And, you know, I'll tell you something, Brenda. The hardest part for me right now in my life is that, you know, I'm a real estate broker. So now knowing that these mortgages are fraudulent, I just don't even wanna be in this business anymore. It's like, how can you help somebody get a mortgage alone for their house when when they sign that promissory note? That's already the You're halfway in getting it through. I'm already screwing people over knowing what I know. So it's just so, I don't know, it's just so evil. And you guys have been talking about what is money and how does money come into existence and how how and it basically, like Gregory was saying, you know, in the olden days when we had gold and silver, you know, we had money, but we don't have it anymore.
Doesn't exist. And everything that is printed right now is a debt instrument, and it's an IOU, and we owe the Federal Reserve all of that money back. It's complete and utter debt. Really, they owe us. Yeah? They that money they owe us. They owe us, but they nobody believes this. When you try to tell your neighbor that a mortgage is fraud and that the government never transferred any money and they just made an accounting entry onto their ledger, they don't believe it.
[05:00:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I know. I did mortgage a few years ago, one of my jobs. And, you know, I was just couldn't believe when, you know, this buying down points to get a better interest rate. Oh my gosh. That is just totally money in the mortgage and the mortgage loan people's pockets.
[05:00:41] Unknown:
I know. But the problem is is that every mortgage is fraud because no consideration that's given. You have to have real consideration that's given, and a lot of people will tell you, well, no. The bank I see the check. I see the check at the settlement table. That check is check kiting. There's no money behind that check. They just wrote something out on a piece of paper on a, you know, cashier's check. It's all fraud. It's all fake. It would be like you and me writing a check for somebody with no money in the our in our depositor's account.
[05:01:14] Unknown:
That's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Thank you so much for for joining us today. This Wednesday, 07/02/2025. You catch us here on eurofolkradio.com and Global Voice Radio Network, Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. There is usually an after show that you can definitely take a part of. Go to the website, thematrixstocks.com. It is thematrixstocks.com. Just click on any of the free conference call links. You can join via landline telephone through dial up. You can, join us by cell phone, smartphone, app, tablet, or computer.
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[05:02:51] Unknown:
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That's the ridge. Good morning. Morning. Morning. Morning. Here we go on another session here at the Radio Ranch, Roger Sales. This one is date stamped 07/02. Boy, I almost got that wrong yesterday. July today. Good morning. We are joined by other folks. I think we probably got is Alan's, conglomerate with us? Nope. I thought I heard Alan's voice. Okay. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Anyway, there are certain other people there, and mister Beamer is the one that stays atop them, rides atop them, and identifies them for their help and, to give them proper recognition and credit. So, Paul, if you would.
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Well, we try to do that. We're we're, we're accompanied by three streaming platforms right now. First of all, thanks to our buddy Paula Cross the Drink, radiosoapbox.com. He'll be with us for the entire two hours. We have eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, making a lot of noise with, Amicus Curie brief on a a suit against Donald Trump. That's interesting. And also Global Voice Radio Network, my pet project that I've I've had going for about ten years off and on. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com, where you find a whole bunch of things, downloadables, exhibits, interviews, and also links to free conference call so you can join us live on the show. We support, landline telephones, smartphones, tablets, computers, web interfaces, through supported browsers like Google Chrome, stuff like that.
Thank you for, joining us this morning. Good morning, Ron.
[00:03:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Good morning, Paul. Is, Alan still wrapped up in his, stuff that he would has been?
[00:03:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. If, they're approaching they're approaching them with a offer of settlement, and, that's gonna be, 7 figures. And if that doesn't fly, that that amount could, roughly be tripled. So, lots of interesting things are gonna be happening Okay. Happening through WDRN.
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Alright. It'll be interesting to hear the rundown on that, when we're able to. Yep. So good morning. I don't have anything really, phenomenal to talk about as we open here this morning. Of course, I just what what I usually say is for the folks that may be new, somewhere stumbled into this and, wondering what we're talking about. Hopefully, you maybe had some indication when you came, but, we're talking about your freedom. We have through many years, over a hundred years of research, legal and historical in three men's lives, been able to unravel the conundrum, the solve the patriots' Rubik cube, if you will, on how they've got us enslaved.
The question, of course, is how's that unelected bureaucrat over there able to make these man made laws called regulations, reinterpreting legislation of the elected officials. And then not only, promulgate the official or a regulation, but then apply it to you and enforce it on you. How does that happen? That's the answer people been looking for since I got into this. So, well, this month, thirty thirty three years ago, that's a long time, Paul. That's about half of my adult lifetime. And, so I've been, delving into this. Once it crossed my path, I I've never been able to let go of it. Or I should say it's never let go of me, whichever one of those you wanna turn, look at it through, lenses of some many of you are in the same situation.
I can tell by people's enthusiasm, once the truth hits them, that, what takes over your life, you know, and the other people that just, call you names or whatever. They think you're crazy, and those are the ones that, God said they're not truth seekers. And so they would believe, and he sent them to believe a big lie. And, boy, they bought it hook, line, and center. And, if you've got one that's why I've I've learned over the years. It's taken a lot of years has been painful Yeah. At times. That the only way to, pursue this is to put it in front of people and see who it resonates with.
And then if it resonates with them, then you feed them. You know? But, boy, if it doesn't resonate with them, you're, you know, like to say, you're beating your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop. So I've learned not to do that, I think, most of the time over the years. And, so we try and just very gently and, what's the word I want? Nonconfrontationally, have this discussion with people in the best way we found over all these years, or at least I think, is to present the equivocation backwards.
The knot they've got tied in your mind, James one eight, double minded man, uncertain in all of his ways. And, you take that as example, one of the best ones, you know, easy. Are you a citizen of The United States or a citizen of The United States Of America? Out of most people, that's very innocent, certainly not threatening. It's nonconfrontational. You're just asking a just asking a simple question. And, of course, the, payload is they think those are both the same thing. So, you could use that, maybe explain, you know, it's not really the same thing. One of them is, like, free, and the other one is, like, in a condition of voluntary servitude. What?
You'll know when somebody's interested. You guys that are listening here have probably been doing that, the regulars, and so you know what I'm talking about. When you get a well, you could say when you get a live one, you know, one that can frost a mirror, then you can start education. You can educate them a little bit. So That's a You know, it's really funny. What pardon me, Paul?
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When you get one that can frost a mirror.
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Well, I mean, really, ain't that like it is? I I'm not sure most of those people can, intellectually, certainly. But then you can pursue that a little bit. As many of you know, it takes longer with some than with others. I don't know the individual implications of that. It's just that, man, some people just jump right on it. You know, William was, on here, our buddy in Augusta. And, he was explaining it to somebody. He told us the other day, and all he did was explain what the the the I think the original status was, and then he showed them the fourteenth amendment, and the guy caught it. Bam. Just like that.
Some people are like that. Others, it just, throws them into a tailspin. I don't know the reasons psychological reasons for all that. They've I know one thing. Our enemies have done a masterful job of of, hiding this and turning it around where, political correctness and all the other things where you'll get people arguing with you over the plain facts. You know? And I continue to think back when that happens about Yuri Brezhnikov, I believe is his name, the the Russian KGB office officer that defected in the eighties and did that Sterling interview with, with the creature from Jekyll Island guy.
I can't recall his name at the minute. But, Brezhnikov said when you get in that but you Griffin, g Edward Griffin, when you get in that condition, and they get you to that third stage is you can put facts right in front of people, and they can't see it. And, man, I've seen that. I've seen that a bunch. So it's a selective thing. You just try and prospect out there, find out who who's open. The further we get down this road and the more exposure we get on our enemies and stuff, I think the more people should be open, but we're, we're not too flooded with new people around here. And that's one of the drawbacks of getting a Republican in is our our people take a deep breath. Oh, Trump's in. I'll go sit on the couch for four years.
Well, it's not really a way to approach this, but, that's the way some people take it. Unfortunately, again, I think I mentioned yesterday that I watched the night before. This was Sunday night. Monday night, watched the Tucker interview with, Marjorie Taylor Greene. Have any of y'all seen that and would like to talk about it a little bit? Rick, did you see that? She's a Georgia girl, you know, from the Northwest Corner of the state up there. Did did you happen to watch that yet or see any clips of it? No. I did not. You did not? Are you a are you an MTG fan or not?
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Oh, yeah. But I don't I don't generally follow that the politics that closely. You know? This Uh-huh. It's a must.
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Okay. Well, she's a boy, she's just so bright and genuine and and just got such a pleasant attitude, and she's really learned. She's had to she's gotten beat up up there a whole bunch. You know, the her first term up there, they wouldn't even give her a committee assignment. She just drifted around as a as she said, I'm a representative. I represent these people. And, she was quite adamant about that in, in her way. And, yeah, they didn't even give her a committee assignment for the first two years. She's up there now on top of a couple. She's pretty tight with, DJT evidently and, supports him wholeheartedly no matter what the mistakes are. And I kinda tend to agree with her, but she is a, she's a big fan of, mister Trump.
And, but she's not to the point where she won't criticize him when he's wrong, and that's the same way Alex is. And I guess we are. I'm just glad that he's president in my lifetime, quite frankly, for me to see it and have this overview of politics and understanding that, myself and, many of you have. It just throws a whole different new light on all of that. Anyway, that's worth watching. I still haven't had the chance yet, to go back and watch the latest one with, Robert Kennedy,
[00:13:39] Unknown:
who is That's a good one, Roger. I went over there and watched the Marjorie Taylor Rain, seen that one up there, so I watched it instead. Sorry. Yeah. That's that's okay. I just I watched Marjorie. I wanna see her yet. My Georgia ties, of course,
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my friend Harvey kinda knows her a little bit a little bit. And, so, anyway, well, I'm anxious to see the Robert Kennedy one because he's, of all the appointees, he is maybe kicking more sand than anybody, and he is really did you see the stuff they uncovered? Well, Lisa did because she watched the interview and the news bleeps that have come out that they have found where they hid, with HHS and the vaccines in a study that the the injection had a 1100% increase in the chances of of getting, all this bad stuff. You know?
What's the word I'm looking for where the kid is like Side effects. No. Autism. Autism. Autism. Oh, autism. My brain. Autism. Eleven hundred percent chances of getting autism were increased, and they hid that. So he is already
[00:14:53] Unknown:
hepatitis was. Was that type of COVID, or was that the hepatitis?
[00:14:57] Unknown:
It was hepatitis b that they give they give some of these shots. I'm just learning this. Of course, I didn't have children. But, they're given these shots before they cut the umbilical cord to the mother. Two of them. Hepatitis
[00:15:13] Unknown:
know that was And I didn't realize, and they might, but I just knew it was when the within the first twenty four hours. I mean, it's really close. But you know what that did, Roger? I'm kinda you know, it's one of those mixed things. By them doing that on such a newborn baby, and if anybody has any sense and is not just blind trusting, which thank god a lot of new parents aren't, That really woke up a lot of new parents to the whole vaccine scam. Well, you know, it's interesting. I've got a a friend down here who's
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well, he's still he's still in the pink cloud. I call him I call him attractively naive. He's got a a really attractive naivete about him at in his sixties. You know? Good guy. He got two daughters. One of them, the first time pregnancy. Just recently, they announced it a couple months ago. I think she's due in December or something. And, all this stuff that I haven't I've tried to present all our stuff to, and he never it never clicks with him. You know? He'll go look up like he'd never heard of the USS Liberty. You know? He never heard of Revelation two and three nine and some of those things. And, sitting right there with him when he checks them out on the cell phone and validates it, but he's still questioning, you know, still to stand back ish. Well, the one interesting thing is I asked him, when he announced his, daughter was pregnant.
I said, are you teaching him about vaccines? And he said, yeah. I'm telling him about that stuff. So he that little area he's coming forward on, but the, the others, he's still big skeptic. You know? So, anyway, I guess that's alright. Everybody's to their own individual time and decision. And, as I've told y'all many times, my over the years, I've honed a lot of this down where I can deal with it easier and, don't go beat people up or chase them anymore. And I go back to the watchman on the wall prophecy because that's the important part here, I think. Anyway, that's conclusion I've come to.
My duty, as I've told you all many times, well, I'm not here to chase you down and beat you up to file an affidavit. That does not work. K? It doesn't work because many times you alienate relationships if you press too hard. If they don't wanna do it, they're never gonna do the study and the thinking and everything about it. Because as all of you know, when you file this paperwork, nothing changes. So that means you've got to be the change. The only way that happens that I've seen over all these many years is when someone learns the information and starts attacking it and the understanding, the re empowerment, all those things come.
And if they're not gonna do that, there's no sense in having them. I mean, it's nice to see the paperwork go across people's desk up there. I guess they see more of them coming through. It's got some element of success, but you're never gonna really help that person, because, they will not do the study again. If you don't get the information, you don't change. And if you don't change, nothing changes. So it's real futile to me, and that's why I've kinda insisted on the fact that my duty here is simply to inform people they've got a choice. You know? If there's any equivocation and any questions on that, we'll certainly can have a discussion about it. But if I'm the watchman on the wall. I told you this is coming. I've relieved myself from my responsibility in your life.
If you don't want to accept it, you don't wanna look into it, you wanna call me ugly names, that's fine. You're the one that's got the blood on your hands because I told you. K? So that's kind of the line of demarcation I've approached as it relieves me of all all kinds of, and you too if you're spreading this message and think that way. It relieves you all kinds of drawbacks and, well, he said, then all that crap. And, I've been through all of it. I I think I probably been through most situations you can go through with this information. And, so we put it in front of people and say, hey. If you got a question, we're here to answer it. If you don't, you wanna stay in the little pink cloud, Just go climb in and pull it over you.
And pretty soon, when the when the screws start tightening, don't run to me. I told you. You didn't listen for whatever reason. So, sorry. It's your own your freedom, your life, everything that's involved in it, it's your decision. I've mentioned many times the statement doctor Laura Schlesinger made that caught my ear so hard years ago. We're all where we are because of choices we've made. We're all where we are because of choices we've made. And and I've never heard even the most argumentative devil's advocate person argue with that. So that goes back if you think about that then, every time you get into a situation where you got a question, do I do this or do that?
Every one of those choices can be incredibly important even though they might need not seem so at the time. And so the best part of your decision making can come in on virtually every decision you make because you don't know the repercussions of a wrong one, and they can be severe even though it might look innocent, every choice, and that brings the responsibility back to you again. And isn't that what all of us want, really? Isn't that why y'all are here to go back and be free and freedom means personal responsibility? That's really what it means.
And, but and you don't have the, FED shit to go over and suck off of. I don't want you know, I get my Medicaid. I wanna get my whatever. And, of course, I'm guilty of that too on Social Security. That's about the only thing I take from them. But, realistically, it was my my funds that they took. It's not money. It's debt, of course, but all those years. And, you know I'm happy to have it. Yes.
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Yes, Lisa. What's your name? Reflecting on some of the things of history, I I I I sometimes and I don't know that you wanna call it communism, but some of these leaders of nations that take back control of their national resources.
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Okay.
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I had kind of a louder truck go by, so I'm here for a second. Sorry. Okay. That's alright. Well, you got any particular leaders in mind, examples you're thinking of? Or Gaddafi. Gaddafi.
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Gaddafi. Very good example.
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Yes. And and they're also evidently in Iran. They were attempting to do it. I believe Hitler and and I don't know who the head was of Japan, but just trying to take a hold of their currency. I'm not sure how they did with national resources and stuff. So I'm gonna go back to Gaddafi, and I think it was attempted in Iran at times to take hold. And those resources have profits. And so why shouldn't the people of the country benefit from the profits of those resources? Because And and Alaska does that also with their oil. And those the the residents of Alaska get national dividends.
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Because the Rothschilds say that they're all theirs.
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Well, I but but, see, some people would view that as communism. But is that really communism? It's an it's a nationalism. Every nation has resources that really should belong to the people of that nation.
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Of course. I think they call it fascism, like, like Mussolini.
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Well, that's what we're in right now. I guarantee you. Let me give you a better example.
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Ukraine.
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Finally, on the, what, fifth or sixth time, little dingbat over there, Zelensky finally came to Trump and said, y'all signed the minerals agreement. Right? So we got minerals coming out of there, these, what do they call them? Earth rich minerals or something.
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And I disagree with Rick. I disagree with Rick on that. The fascism is the corporate corporations and government. Well, they're the ones profiting, not the people.
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Mussolini called it corporatism. Fascism, same thing. The melding of government and corporations. And that's what we've got now. I'm I'm gonna show you the example if I can get to it. Zelensky, excuse me, signed this little, thing finally on these rare earth minerals, what they call them. Who you think is gonna go over there and do all that mining and how what companies you think you're gonna do it? Maybe like Rio Tinto? Rio Tinto, the Rothschilds worldwide mineral based company. Yeah. That's who's gonna do it. That's who's gonna go over and excavate them, get them processed, and and all that stuff. So isn't that corporatism?
I mean, look. It's it was, BlackRock that was, involved in partial ownership with the Chinese of the Panama Canal. The these are all it really is fascist. I mean, honestly.
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Okay. But so how did Gaddafi do it where he did let some of these corporations come in to do the work? They, of course, made enough profit,
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but they weren't allowed to rob the people of it all. Yeah. I don't know exactly how he did it. He was an exceptionally good leader for his people. He cared about his people. Of course, there's a number of things he was involved with or doing. One of them was trying to, the I guess, the the femme fatale, if you will, was trying to, establish a gold backed currency for Africa. That's probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Up to that point, you have to know a little bit about Libya and why it is such a precious jewel is because they've got some of, if not the, what they call the sweetest crude in the world.
What they mean by that is it's got a lower sulfur content, and it doesn't have to be refined as much to get the byproducts. And so that's why sweet crude is so, desired all over the world. There's a couple of places about it. Alaska evidently has very sweet brewed up at Anwar. There's a hole there's a real ugly, one developing here in North South America over in the Northeast part of, around Venezuela and Guyana and those little countries around there. They have found a a huge pool of light sweet crude over there. And a lot of it is under a piece of land, Lisa.
It's been under dispute since the United Nations was founded because this, dispute has been written in with the original, you know, UN documents. I've been I've heard. And that is a piece of land that's fairly big, and it's between Venezuela and Brazil and Guyana. And all of them claim it, and nobody has clear ownership to it. And there's a bunch of that sweet crude right under that. K? So what Gaddafi was doing was taking that. I don't know about the corporations he was working with. I know, supposedly, he and Tony Blair. Remember Tony Blair from the whatever party it is over there that he labor or the other Yeah. Stories, I guess. He was a Tory.
Well, supposedly, him and Tony Blair were great friends, Gaddafi. But, what happened was, and it's documented in the guy that he, he's kinda infirm now. He's in a, old folks home, and he's delusional. It's Victor Ostrovsky is his name, and he wrote two books. He's a Canadian Jew, wrote two books. I just heard one mentioned the other day in some conversation, actually, on this, on this subject. Victor Ostrovsky, who I've spoken with on the phone when he was when he was cogent, was a Mossad line officer who turned on him, and he wrote two books. One of them is called By Way of Deception, We Shall Make War, and the other one and, of course, so that's the Mossad's motto.
And the other one was The Other Side of Deception. And, of course, because it exposed information like I'm about to tell you here in a second, it was totally panned by the overwhelmingly powerful, Jewish lobby. I found a copy when I was still in Atlanta for a dollar brand new in a in a book store somewhere. So, anyway, one of the things that Victor Ostrovsky brought out in that book, the first one, was how they killed Gaddafi, Lisa. And what they did is they had a a a beacon kinda thing. They wrapped it up in a Persian rug, took one of those small submarines, two man submarines, and and smuggled it into Libya, landed on the beach. They had obviously Mossad people there to help them. And they took that little beacon, and they went and placed it next to where he stayed. And I think he stayed in a tent. But somehow, they got that placed, and that was the honing beacon that they used to kill Gaddafi.
So in the end, who who's in the middle of this? The Mossad, of course. But he was also developing a tremendous freshwater system over there. He told Tony Blair, he said, look. I'm the one that's keeping all the hordes here in Africa from coming into Europe. And, of course, after they killed him and opened that up, he was very good to his, folks that were in foreign studies. If you were, like, studying in England, for example, you'd get your tuition paid. They'd pay all your rent. They'd give you so much a month, get you a car, all all that stuff right out of those oil proceeds.
And, they they didn't like any of that. He was beloved by his people. And he also gave new couples.
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Yeah. New new marriages, married couples, new child you know, having Right. Children.
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Right. I mean, there were so many different things like that that benefited the people. He was a fabulous leader, and, of course, they couldn't wait because of that to take him out. And, and, of course, as came up the other day, what was the very first thing that happened after they killed Gaddafi? I mean, the very first thing that happened?
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Central bank. Central bank before they even had a standing government. Right. Probably before
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they even got him in the ground, if they didn't cremate him or he wasn't blown up, very first thing was a Rothschild central bank. Okay? So that tells you the importance of that. I think it should, anyway. Some people probably can't see it. But, regardless, those are the things that revolve around Libyan. I still have a running, a running disagreement with a very this guy I really like in, in in Argentina. We became good friends, but he listens to this BBC and all that stuff, I guess. And he said, oh, Gaddafi was a dictator, Roger. Hitler was a dictator. Oh, Michael. Jeez. Oh, mighty.
And I've tried and tried and tried to pull him across and get him to see the other side, and he just can't do it. He was the one last time we spoke, He was telling me how, oh, dingbat over there in in Ukraine, how Putin was the dictator in invading Ukraine. I said, god, Michael. Don't you know about the Medan and the shelling of the Donbass? I just heard, right before he went on the earth's list and a little bit to judging freedom, and, judge was talking to some guy about Ukraine. They just finally got all total control of the Donbas over there, was the news he was bringing forward. And I hope Putin, honestly, would be I I just wish he'd go in there, go surround surround the big cities, Kiev, and there's another one I can't remember up in the Northwest. Surround them with military.
Tell them they got if they're civilians, they got two weeks to get out. Then they can, of course, check the people that are leaving, who they are, if they're bad guys or not. And after two weeks, just absolutely destroy the city. As much as that is a terrible thing, it's about the only way you can get rid of these guys. I'd love to see Russia take over the whole damn country because these fanatics Yeah. These fanatics want it so bad that that would that would put a big hitch in their giddy up. They want greater Israel and Europe. That's what they're looking Ukraine to be. Who is, trying to say something there?
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Yeah. Sheldon, off of what Lisa said about, child to Africa, Russia's doing the same thing. If you're newly married and you've got one or two kids
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Yeah. Well,
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countries are becoming very All kind of good stuff.
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Okay. You got a little weak connection there, Sheldon. You popped out. That's okay. Yeah. Russia a couple of years ago, Russia, Putin told all the government employees, I guess, everybody take an afternoon off and go go procreate. And you get enough kids going, they'll give you all kinds of stipends, taxes and off and and everything else. So, yeah, people are becoming aware of the, of the crush on the demographics, that every country in the world is, experiencing, I guess. So, anyway well, any new listeners or anybody that's got something to say on what we've covered so far? I'm just kinda sitting here running my mouth. I don't have remember anything. Well, yeah, I do too. Actually, I remember something from yesterday that I was very impressed with, which is, Paul, what do you know about Alligator Alcatraz?
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Alligator Alcatraz? Nothing. Yeah.
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Nothing? Nothing? Nothing? Really?
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Alligator that?
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Alligator Alcatraz.
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It's fantastic. It's one of the better ideas I've seen come out of government in quite some time. Evidently, in the middle of the Everglades for twenty plus years, they've had a landing strip there. I'm not sure what it was originally built for, but it's got a landing strip there, and it the nearest road is 60 miles. You gotta go through pythons, alligators, and mosquitoes, and no telling what all. And so what they did was they took that runway and they developed it into a camp. And DeSantis and, Trump were there yesterday, and did a press conference and everything. And now what they're gonna do is round up all these bad guys, the illegals, and they're going to take them to Alligator Alcatraz.
And, mister, DeSantis, who evidently was a JAG officer in his naval career, which I did not know. You you know what a JAG officer is? That's a legal guy. Right? Judge, advocate, general. Yeah. Right. And so, they're going to take some of the, National Guard in Florida and put their, JAG officers, and they're gonna be the courts they're gonna go through. And then they'll automatically deport them out of Alligator Alcatraz. It's very listen. There that is a brilliant idea. I guess DeSantis is the one that came up with it. And, so, yeah, that's gonna be operational pretty soon. They've, got that pretty well set up there already, and I don't know how quickly they're going to start receiving the bad guys, but it won't be long.
And then, they won't have to go into any of these article three courts that have been screwing Trump that were overturned last week in that decision anyway. But now they'll just go in. They'll get in turn. They'll get their hearing. They'll get presented with a legal officer. He'll make a decision, and most of them are bye bye. So good news. Some good news. Now Trump has caved. He's gone back. He's vacillating. He's equivocating on this, which is, whether to let the farm workers and stuff and the hotel workers and all those a lot of those businesses exist, because of the they exist with a nice profit margin because they can hire these people.
Of course, the answer is to once you pay a little more money and get Americans, they'll work if they can get a decent living wage. But, of course, we know about Bottom Line and who controls all that and the way they look at those things. But, it looks like Trump has put in a program, especially with the farmers. And now I can see his point here where if some of these farmers that have had these long term relationships with these workers ten, fifteen years, And so they're gonna go in and make the farmer or the corporation, I guess, responsible for the workers and give them a green card.
They'll pay taxes on their work, and they'll be allowed to stay and work because they're participating and they're paying taxes in. And I think the other industries will get somewhat of a similar deal. But, that seems to be what's happening there. So you had not heard about Alligator Alcatraz. It does not look, Paul, like someplace you'd probably like to spend a lot of time. But, boy, it's a really good place to put these people because then they got this it's not huge, but it's enough. I forget how many at holes. They can probably increase that somehow. But they got nowhere to go. They bring they take all of the waste out every week, and they bring fresh water in every week, I'm assuming, by boat.
And, otherwise, if someone wants to escape, they've got a minimum of 60 miles of very, very nasty critters and a miserable track to get to the nearest road. What a beautiful idea. And, of course, Trump is I've, floated earlier, the idea of rebuilding Alcatraz. That may have been what spawned this, actually. Yeah. And, he he wants to rebuild the the big Alcatraz out there in San Francisco.
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Well, really, what's what's the difference between, reviving Alcatraz Island except for it's a tourist trap right now? What's the difference between doing Alcatraz Island or Alligator Alcatraz? Alcatraz Island, you have to swim in shark infested waters. Correct. Cold. Cold. Cold. Shark infested waters. Thank you. And, Alligator Alcatraz, you you know, if you can deal with the crocs, go for it.
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No. There's pythons and all these snakes that people have brought in that they flushed down the toilet, and they've ended up in the Everglades. There's a lot of that all over, you know, the the famous one of of alien invasion in the South. Well, Paul, you used to drive your truck down there, obviously Yeah. Is, kudzu. I mean, that kudzu is unbelievable, and it was just brought into the country about a hundred years ago. Don't get me wrong. Kudzu Uh-huh. Is
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a beautiful, ornate plant that blankets both sides of the road, and it kinda gives you the feeling that you are just driving through a deep pile carpet. But the devastation it leaves in its wake by killing all the trees and everything else is just absolutely horrific.
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It is a really huge problem. Do you know that stuff grows a foot in a day? Yep. The vine that ate the South is what they like to call it. And it was, it was brought in about a hundred years ago. I think 1913 or around that. Boy, that was a bad year. But around the turn of the century last year, it was brought in. It's from somewhere. Now the beautiful part is it's edible.
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And it's pretty nutritious, I guess. All of it's edible. Pretty much all of it. The root, the stem, the leaf, everything is edible. And it's a great biomaterial
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source too. Now for those of you who've never been in the South and and have never seen this, stuff, wow. It it's just like Paul said, it just once it starts, man, it covers everything. Trees, it grows goes up these big damn pine trees, covers the whole pine tree. It's incredible what it does in this in its search for total dominance of sun with big leaves. But University of Georgia did a a big test on it when I was living up there. They said it's quite quite nutritious and tastes like spinach. Yeah. So if you haven't had your enough spinach, you can go to the South and, man, they ain't never gonna starve in the South, Paul. They got kudzu.
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Right. But but the one thing that you have to, remain conscious of is they do spray it to try and hold it back. So if you're gonna harvest wild kudzu Oh, man. You have to go 50 feet away from the road.
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Good. Good idea. Yeah. Always. Well, you just find the stuff everywhere. Of course, it's, many people, it's a curse. Maybe turn out to be a blessing. I guess, we'll just see as we go forward. There's another one of these in intrusive species like the python. That's what brought that on. And, oh, and iguanas too. Iguanas are not native to the to The US, and people have brought them over here as pets, and then they escape or turn them loose or something. And, you know, during the winter down there on the couple of winters ago when they were having really hard winter in South Florida, and they said beware of of,
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of those lizards falling out of the trees and hitting you on the head. Yep. Cold colder days, they, they just go to sleep. They they just hibernate, and they'll fall right out of the tree. Yeah. And there's there's other bugs that, like, live in pine cones down in Florida, things that, like, basically don't exist anywhere else. They're invasive. They sting like a mother and, everything else. Now, yeah, just getting back to kudzu, it would be a great cultivar. It'd be a great cultivated plant, but you cannot allow it free rein. If you cultivate it in anything but a hermetically sealed, like, IBC container with a lid, you have to protect it from rain. You have to protect it from birds because if the birds pick up the seeds and start scattering them all over your yard, before you know you have a problem, you got a big problem.
So if you're gonna be dumb enough to try and cultivate it, you have to make sure that it's undercover, it's in a greenhouse, it's in a closed container, and you have to keep it at bay. Because if one root gets out,
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one root is all it takes. You. It's an amazing plant. It really is. I forgot where it came from. Chat that Mark in all caps has his hand up, and I seen it. Who does Mark? Are you with us? Mark knows better than that. Yeah. Marcus, say hello, man. Well, where's Argh?
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Argh. It's Wednesday. I think I think he oh, no. There he is. He's back. Okay. Argh.
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Where are you, Argh?
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He must be having trouble unmuting here. Let me,
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probably changes to a man's diapers. Hey, Mark. How you doing?
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Doing okay, except for, for whatever reason, my, microphone doesn't seem to wanna work on the computer today. So Doing good, man. I'm dialing in via phone.
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Oh, okay. And,
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so I it worked fine last night. I had a Zoom call with our our trust members, and, we went over a a pretty interesting trust template. And, so I know it's working, but for whatever reason, it doesn't wanna cooperate with FCC, free conference call today. So I jumped over here on my phone so I can converse
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with you. Okay. Well, you sound good.
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And, I'm calling you people. I'm calling new people. I said with you with you people. Oh, yeah. It's a joke. Okay. With you people. You know? You you persons. You persons.
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Okay.
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That's a joke. I'm just joking, folks. I know. He's Oh, light enough.
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Mark, I was trying to recall all this stuff that's going on. I didn't know you were gonna be with us today. I know you're not as available as you were previously. And, so I'm glad to have you along today. But we were discussing alligator out there. Man. Did you, did you Yeah. I I was hearing all that. Have you not seen that on TV?
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Yeah. It's it's a stunt. It's a big political stunt. How many how many inmates escaped from a prison? How many inmates escaped from a prison?
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Well You know? These guys It's almost like they're encouraging them to try. Yeah. But It's almost like they're encouraging them to try at this point. Well, you don't have to go build big walls with Constantino wire and higher guards and all. It's just right there. It was already built. They already had the runway y'all. And it's solid as hell. Evidently, they tested it, and, they just added a few accoutrements. I don't think they've even had to add too much space to what was there. It's been there unused for twenty years or more. And I just thought What was the purpose of it to begin with? It was a a place they could fly into the middle of the Everglades if they needed to. I don't know. It's research or something, but state of Florida did it. And they just So it's more of a financial thing that they could set up real quick and Right. As these illegal immigrants. Okay. I got it. I got it. And and and got them where the nearest the nearest land is 60 miles, and they gotta go through the Everglades to get there. So I don't think we're gonna see see many of them get, escape.
So that was very cool. I just thought it was a particularly good idea. And then they're bringing in JAG officers from the National Guard to be the judges. So they don't have to fight all this article three crap anymore. Right. Right. Well, that the Supreme Court decision this week should pretty much put an end to this injunction stuff. You know? Well, it did and it didn't because it left a couple of loopholes open for them. They can do the same thing with class action, and they've already got some started evidently. And, they the the court left three loopholes for them, and that was one of them.
So they immediately started doing that. We'll see how it turns out. But anyway, I like this alligator Alcatraz, idea. I thought it was particularly brilliant. Yeah. Taking something that's already built, not being used, turning it around, and applying it to a really severe situation that, the other solutions to that situation were a lot of cost of of funds, etcetera, etcetera, new building. It takes time. This was already there, and they just converted it. And, DeSantis, good on you.
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Well, you know, the other thing, Roger, on that is that if that's, like, now considered a federal facility and maybe they're renting it from the state and it's federalized, And these illegal immigrants are deemed to be, you know, some type of, war criminal or what's the word I'm looking for, and they're pulling it over into a a a military jurisdiction.
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Well, they're invaders. It's really gonna be tough for anybody to do it. Do I? Yeah. They're invaders, aren't they? Haven't they invaded the country? They're not here legally. Yeah. Even though they were enticed in, there it was an invasion. Aren't they invaders?
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Yeah. Yeah. I just don't know how that falls into, you know, to the law stuff, but, I'm sure that that'll come out. I haven't really had time to look at it.
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I forget the act. Alien and sedition or something. It's one of those old acts from early in the country that they're, giving him gives him the power to just kick out of here, boy. But the nice thing is there's an awful lot of people that are voluntarily deporting themselves.
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A million a million is all over your with money. Yeah. Money and a free trip home. Right. Boost them a free airline ticket and a grant, and,
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then they can come back into the country legally. If they wait and get deported, they cannot take the legal route to come back. Yep. Yep. Yep. So I like the way you structured that. Well, what else? You said you had something cutting you want to talk about? Oh, yes. Very cutting.
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Yesterday, it was announced that the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled against a, native American tribal citizen. They call they refer to him as a tribal citizen, saying that, McGirt ruling doesn't apply to state taxes. So, they had initially won at the administrative law. Let me set this up first, though. For those who are not familiar with McGirt, McGirt was a criminal case where, two men from an Indian tribe got into a fight, and one killed one. One killed the other. And the state prosecuted them, and from the very get go, McGirt's, attorney said the state did not have jurisdiction, that it was a federal matter, because they were both Native American Indians.
And so that finally made it all the way up to the Supreme Court now about three or four years ago, and the Supreme Court ruled in favor of McGirt, and ruled that the the Oklahoma, the state did not have jurisdiction to prosecute him because he was on Indian land, he was an Indian, and the the victim was an Indian. So it was like, you don't have jurisdiction over this matter. And the big thing that came out of that was the state was trying to say that was their land, that the the the crime occurred on state land. And the tribes, mostly on East Of I 35 in Oklahoma, most of them never seceded their land to the state.
And so the the US Supreme Court ruled on top of of the state not having jurisdiction over McGirt, they also ruled that that land that was never succeeded to the state still belongs to the tribe, and it's created a big issue. Google, even shortly after McGirt was, ruled upon, they came out and changed the maps. If you drew up the Oklahoma map to the east, again, mostly to the East of I-thirty 5 is the general rule, you'll see tribal land and not counties per se. You still see the cities, but they're outlined inside of tribal land. So now keep that in mind, and then here comes Strobel, Alicia, Alicia Strobel, and the, oh, the the case Strobel versus Oklahoma tax commission centered around Alicia Strobel, a citizen of the Muscogee Creek nation, who wanted the state to refund her three years' worth of state taxes, state income taxes, with her attorney arguing she is exempt.
The Oklahoma tax commission argued that she should not be exempt. Struble lives in Okmulgee, a part of the Oklahoma that was reaffirmed as Indian country in 2020. Wow. Okay. Five years ago. So it was reaffirmed as Indian country in the 2020 Supreme Court case, McGirt versus Oklahoma. She's also employed by the Muskogee Creek Nation. Excuse me. Following the McGirt ruling, she filed a state tax exemption claiming her income was tribal. To qualify for the exemption, a person must be a tribal citizen living within the tribe's boundaries and working for the tribe. Well, it sounds like she meant that. The Oklahoma tax commission said was yep. Yep. Absolutely.
Excuse me. So the Oklahoma tax commission said where struggle lives is not classified as Indian country when it comes to civil matters. Something the Oklahoma supreme court agreed with on Tuesday yesterday. So they're saying the same thing. For civil matters, that Indian nation is not is is not didn't have jurisdiction. The governor Kevin Stitt, who's a twit. Oh, this didn't say that. They didn't call him a twit in the article I just did. So governor Kevin Stitt, previously spoke with the news station here about what he believes the impact could be if Struble won the case, released a statement supporting the court's decision. And so I'm not gonna read his stupid comment. Was that one gonna get appealed?
I'm sure it will. Okay. I'm sure it will. Now here's what's interesting. I I I put the links over in the chat earlier, you know, until I switched to my phone. But, excuse me, put a link to the actual ruling, Strobel versus Oklahoma tax commission. And if you scroll down through that, it it gives you a much better detail of what actually happened. It's not a terribly long decision. But, she initially won with the administrative law judge with the Oklahoma tax commission.
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Oh. And then Oklahoma appealed that.
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Oh, yeah. Oklahoma immediately asked for an what they referred to as an en banc Uh-huh. En banc hearing. Uh-huh. So they got the judge to set aside that and rule in their favor. But for the audience, an in banc hearing
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is when all of the judges at the appellate level hear the case. Usually, there's three of them that hear it, and they might have 12 judges in the in the appellate level there. But this en banc is the whole 12 would get up there and decide on this issue.
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Right. Now in this case, it happened at the Oklahoma tax commission level. So this is still the administrative law judges. So after the hearing, when struggle won, the administrative law judge recommended the commission grant the protest. In response, the division, the Oklahoma tax commission, filed an application for en banc hearing claiming the administrative law judge erred in his findings, conclusions, and recommendations. The commission held the en banc hearing, just like Roger talked about, and rendered the final order. The commission found Struble did not live in Indian country for purposes of the state income tax exemption and denied her protest.
Struble appealed, and we retained the case, and we retained the case. The Muscogee Creek Nation, Seminole Nation, Cherokee Nation, Chickasaw Nation, and Choctaw Nation filed amicus cure briefs in support of Strobel's appeal. Cool. Now it really isn't a question whether that land belongs to the tribes or not. In my mind, it just it's not even a question. They never seceded it to the state. Yeah. And the US Supreme Court in McGirt upheld that. Right. So, Roger, it it comes back to residency. And my immediate thoughts were upon
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Tricky little word. Your affidavit.
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Your affidavit. What if they wrote an affidavit? What if the Native American tribal members who live on tribal land wrote out an affidavit that said, it's my intention to be a citizen of, and then the name of their tribe, and not to be a US citizen or an Oklahoma resident.
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Well, I can tell you the case they'll fall back on on that argument. What's that? Elk v Wilkins.
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There you go.
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That just solidifies their argument. Bam. Except now, that was in 1873 or '8. I don't remember what eighteen seventies. And then it's my understanding that they made all of the Indians in The US citizens of The United States in the nineteen twenties at some point. I think that's right. Okay. Well, that gives them the out to to be nationals, and that would the elk elk would be the example.
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But their but their allegiance will belong to their tribe and not to the state of Oklahoma. Correct. See, this is this is what I'm getting at. We can take this one step further for tribal members to say it's not their intent. They don't wanna be a US citizen or a citizen of Oklahoma or a resident of the state of Oklahoma. We'll just cover all the bases there. Well And that's their intent to be a national of, in her case, it'd be the Muscogee Creek Nation tribe.
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Just these people, and then they probably don't know any of this stuff, and it's too bad. And you know, they could get to know. Pretty soon, my friend. Here. My friend, they will be learning pretty soon. Okay. So you got some connections into this?
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Yes. I do. I do. Good. Good, Mark. Well, then, you know, what we're waiting for I'm gonna print out some copies of your book and get it in the right hands. Okay. What we're really looking for here
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is this one big turn that's gonna blow this thing wide open. I think the foundation is very good and very solid. We've got a tremendous track record that's unblemished just to my knowledge. And what we're waiting for is that one big deal where the big guy goes, okay. It's time. I'm a push the door open for you. When that happens, there's no telling what this information can do. It's the way I look at it. Right.
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Right. I I think this will just really especially if it goes up to the, US Supreme Court, which I think it will. You know? Oh, man. If you They just made their decision yesterday.
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Wow. If you tag this information onto that, I wonder if they'd even accept certiori on it because they're scared to death of this issue. American Samoa has tried, k, twice to my knowledge, and they won't let it get to the Supreme Court. They won't accept it.
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Well, I don't know how they're gonna do that with with the Native Americans. That's that's gonna be a real problem. It's a really interesting well, that's really good, Mark. So,
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okay. Well, that's interesting. So the Oklahoma, even though they said that the she lives on the land, works for the tribe, and everything else, you still owe us taxes in a civil in a civil Right. Okay.
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Interesting. Yeah. They're saying it's a civil matter and and this is according to the state now, you know, self serving state decision that that even though she qualifies and meets those conditions, that it doesn't apply in civil matters. Or they're saying, excuse me, they're leaning on McGirt decision and saying that the those nations, the land, only applied if it's criminal. So the way I'm the way let me let me explain what the state is basically saying. If it's a crime and it's between Indian or involves Indian, tribal members and it's on tribal land, we can't prosecute it. And now becomes a federal issue.
But they're saying that same type of instance involving a civil matter, the state has jurisdiction over it. See how ridiculous that is?
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Let's wear both let's wear both masks. You
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you can't split jurisdiction down the middle like that for one criminal and one civil. I mean, I predict if this makes it to the Supreme Court, they'll overturn it. And and now these civil matters are also not controlled by the state. Yeah. Persona
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or
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they can't. And it should be it should be controlled by the the the tribal nation, the courts, and they all have courts. I've helped write some documents for for tribal courts. And so they they have their own court system. And I think we're gonna see a big shift if this makes it up to the supreme US Supreme Court.
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Cool. Now '35, does it run through Oklahoma, like, up from Dallas through Oklahoma City and all Yeah. North? Is that the way it is? Wichita. It goes from which yeah. It goes Wichita
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right down to Dallas.
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Dallas Fort Worth. So everything East Of 35 is Indian territory and everything West is Oklahoma.
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Pretty much. There's some overlapping like the Chickasaw. They have some area that runs a little bit West of I 35 right right around the Purcell, Oklahoma area, which is the quarter horse capital of the world. Okay. So, yeah, it's and then there's a couple of little places. This is total baloney, but that's how they got their foot in the door. The, before statehood, they declared that there were three counties that did not have did not belong to an Indian tribe, total lie, but they just declared it and nobody protested, so they got to be challenged.
Mhmm. Nobody challenged it. And so it was Canadian County, Oklahoma County, and Cleveland County, I believe. There are three counties butted up against each other. I'm sure it was over the discovery of oil that they got their foothold in. Okay? I'm positive that's the purpose. Well, there's if you if you go watch the movie, what was it called? Something of the moon, flowers of the moon, it was common where, Native American women, who owned land and mineral rights because of their tribal status, they were given all this land. And when they discovered oil, all these white men would come in and with flashing money and cars and so forth. And they would marry these native American women, and they were getting killed at a huge rate.
They're being murdered at a high rate. The women? And so the yes. Yes. The the the white men were murdering these women so they could get their rights to the minerals. Okay. They'd marry him first, then they'd kill him. And they made a big movie over it, and it was all around Oklahoma. Right. It was, actually, I think partially filled up near, Papa City or Blackwell. Uh-huh. So they they they filmed a large portions of it in Oklahoma. No. He didn't show name of that movie again, Mark, please? I wanna say it's called Flowers of the Moon or something like that.
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Killer of the flower moon, I think. Killers of the flower moon.
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I'm typing it in here. I think you may be right. We're gonna find
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this movie. Flower moon. Killers of the flower moon. Yikes.
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Yep.
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Yeah. You know who's big? It won some awards.
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Uh-huh.
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You know who knew she was looking at? Wasn't it. Was he? Yep. Is that Nancy? Hey, Nancy. Oh, yeah. It's just a couple years old too from 2023.
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You you know who ought to look into this is Kaye with her, all of her Indian romance novels.
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Yeah.
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So, by the way, if you're not novels are the number the number one book genre in the world is romance novels. Well, she's right there. Above every other book except for maybe the Bible. She said she's written, like, '29 books on this or something. She's very prolific. Wow.
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Every time I turn around, she says, she's a new book. Where'd you get time to do all this writing? But she's an expert on this. She's had to really research all these all these years, the different Indian tribes and whatnot. She's, pretty involved. So, cool. Well, we'll keep us appraised of this case. It sounds very interesting. So she's still a citizen to But she's still a citizen of The United States. Well, yeah. She is. She is. They don't know any better. Right. And then and they just they anointed them with that, I guess. Hey. Yeah. Welcome to servitude. You thought you were free on reservation. We all we all got anointed with that. Boy, we sure did. And, so, that would make her a, a a responsible for federal income tax since The United States are resident.
And, that throws that that gives the state of Oklahoma a little legitimacy on the tax thing.
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Being Well, they have an exemption, though. She's she's filing for an exemption for that. So so the three deals was you had to be a member of that native tribe. Yeah. You had to live on tribal land Yeah. And you had to have money. Your income had to come from the tribe. Okay. And she met all three criteria
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except for
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they're arguing that she doesn't live on Indian land because it's a civil matter. Now if it was the criminal, they'd say, yes. You're on tribal land because it's a civil matter. No. You don't live on tribal land. What baloney?
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Wow. Well, we mean that you need to I I I wish you'd come on and tell Brent about this on Friday. He's very, very interesting, this scenario. I've got another exception that I found recently too that I was shocked at on voluntary rights and that they can take your rights away under one set of circumstances. And I did not know this before recently, and I'll bet you don't either. It's for people that naturalize and go through the process, and they fill out forms and stuff on their backgrounds, etcetera. And, if if you have lied on that form, for example, say, are you a communist? You said no.
And they find out in the first five years that you are, they can take your rights away and deport you. And what came up with this is this mayor, guy that's running for mayor in New York City. He's he's a socialist communist. He's been in the country six years. And did he lie on on his, entry paperwork? So that's just coming up. That totally overturns well, I thought it was invioligible, but evidently, it's not. There's one instance that they can take your rights away and kick you out of the country, and you lied on your intake form, if you will.
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So I thought that was weird. If he would not have lied and said he was a socialist,
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would they let him in the country? I don't know if that's one of the barriers or not. I just know that that came up, and they said, if they find out that you've lied in five years now, here he is. He's been here six years. Uh-huh. So and he was a he was a member of either the New York, state apparatus or the New York City apparatus. He's had some sort of a position there. So did he did he lie back then? I don't know the the answers to this. I just know that came out of it, and I mentioned it the other day on Monday, I think. You had been forgetting it. And, you weren't here, I don't believe. So you didn't get to hear it. I wanted you to know about that. No. It's very interesting. Oh, Roger? Yes. We always like to hear these exceptions. Exception. Yes.
Larry, how are you doing this morning, my friend?
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Good. I have the statute right now. It's it's, under eight United States code fourteen fifty one Yes. Yes. Parenthesis a. It's called revocation of naturalization, and I'll just read the first paragraph if you want. Yeah. Says concealment of material evidence, refusal let me put my four ways off. Refusal to testify. It shall be the duty of The United States attorneys for the respective districts upon affidavit showing good cause, therefore, to institute proceedings in any district court of The United States and the judicial district in which the naturalized citizen may reside at the time of bringing suit for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship and canceling the certificate of naturalization on the ground that such order and certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation and such revocation and setting aside of the order admitting such person to citizenship and such canceling of certificate of naturalization shall be effective as of the original date of the order and certificate respect respectively, and it goes on. There's another paragraph, but Yeah. It's alright. Anyone could look that up.
Yeah. Anyone could look that up.
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Well, thank you, Larry, and that's bringing the rubber to the road. Once again, just something I've never been exposed to, Mark, either. And in this circumstances of this socialist slash communist running for mayor up there, it came to the forefront. So we do know that there are exceptions, very very slim, to the voluntariness of, of your rights. I just thought that's quite interesting. I wanted to be sure and mention it to you, Mark. Stick it in your repertoire.
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Well, that's very interesting too. And what's, now this is just an AI response, from Google. So I asked the question, can a foreigner who is a socialist qualify to be naturalized as a US citizen? And it said generally no. A foreigner who is a socialist, especially one affiliated with the communist party or other totalitarian parties is likely to face significant challenges in becoming a naturalized US citizen. US immigration law has provisions that can bar individuals based on their political affiliation, particularly those related to communism or other totalitarian ideologies.
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Damn. I wish they'd start enforcing that. I guess they just decided to run them all in under the Biden administration through the southern border. Yeah. Very interesting. A socialist qualifies for that too. Very interesting. Yeah.
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So what I was thinking, on this deal, you're saying that there was a a five year limitation?
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That's what it said. That's what I heard on the on the
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Well, one thing, it might be upon discovery. You know, he's been in this the country for six years. Right. And sometimes your statute of limitations, you got a a two year window upon discovery. And then the other thing too, I think congress should just go ahead and and do what they did to Trump, in New York City and go ahead and and amend that law toward extends for ten years and then go after him.
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Well, it's got he's got obviously, he's got the monkey shook up up there already.
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But you know what I'm saying. Right? They did they did all these they they did did all these shenanigans to try to, you know, get Trump into some legal hot water so they could even bring a lawsuit against him. Well, let's return the favor. We'd like that. Let's return the favor. Let's have congress pass a law that extends that from five years to ten years and then go after all these crooks. Boy, I'll tell you, I saw the governor in New York in one they had her,
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Pritzker, and Yeah. The other governors. I don't know. Maybe more. But they had them in front of a congressional committee, and, boy, you should have heard Marjorie Taylor Greene drill this woman. Yeah. Well, Hagen. What's her name? Something like that.
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Oh, cool. I think.
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Anyway, you get this. Upon all the publicity on this guy and the attention and his opposition, which is real weak, the guy that owns the majority of grocery stores in New York City, I guess, he's very successful, very wealthy. He said, if he's elected, I'm closing up my stores, and I'm retiring. Wow. Because one of the things he wants to do is put government stores in. Oh. So it's gonna be listen. It's a three ring circus, man. What a what a time It is. To have a sideline seat to this all these shenanigans.
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Go ahead, Mark. Hey. Hey. Roger, get your get your soda. I'll get the popcorn.
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Yeah. It's a it's time to sit back and watch the festivities. Yep. Very interesting. Now starting now hold just a second, Larry. Starting this week, now are we gonna have all these Iranian fatwa things going on? Is this weekend the kickoff weekend for the civil war? All those kind of things. Now get this. I hadn't forgotten about you, Larry. This fatwa that was issued last Saturday night, Sunday, you know about that. Right, Mark? Yeah. Yeah. It was not the head guy. It was the second guy down. Second level Ayatollah. Well, I was talking to one of the guys at lunch yesterday about this, and he goes, well, that couldn't happen because it's against Muslim law. He's pretty studied on this stuff evidently.
It's against Muslim law to to issue a fatwa that kills anybody. And so in last night, I heard somebody confirm that and say, normally, they don't, but this one did identify Netanyahu and Trump to be killed. First one, evidently. Yep. So kinda interesting. Yes. Larry, what you got, buddy?
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There was somebody before Larry. Sorry. There was somebody trying to speak, I believe, right before Larry. Oh, there was?
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Alright. Well, how's that, Larry? Kansas? We're from where, Lisa?
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Hoxie, Kansas. I think it might be Bob. I'm not sure. Okay. Bob, I'm unmuted, but I hadn't said anything. Oh, there you are. Pop up there because I might have wanted to chime in. You're all I would love to. You're on your summer trip
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back to Kansas?
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No. No. I'm sitting in a rainstorm
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in Florida. Oh, okay. That's just your phone. Okay. We got you. Yeah. So we get Yeah. Are you a Bob? Yesterday. Glad you chimed in. Are you close to, you plan on visiting Alligator, Alcatraz? Do you?
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I've been through there, but I've never stopped. You know? It didn't seem like a tourist attraction at the time. Maybe it will be now. I guess so. But, yeah, it's, it's partially in Collier County, which is, West Coast, and it's partially in, which is at either day, Broward or Palm Beach. I can't remember. I think it's Broward.
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Okay.
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But, anyway, it's right in the middle. And, yeah, it's an old, it's it's just a, opportunistic kind of thing because it's preexisting, and it's got some natural impediment to escape.
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Let's go that way. 60 miles of down road to get to the bad road? Yeah.
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No. There ain't no bad road. There ain't no road. That's right.
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Yep. It's it's, pretty pretty isolated. That'll teach you to come into the country and commit crimes, you rascal.
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Yeah. Yeah. I was listening to yesterday's show last night, and, I heard Paul say something that intrigued me Ah. Concerning the commerce clause in terms of impeding commerce by requiring a Social Security number to get an I or no. No. No. Not Social Security number. Requiring you to have an ID, etcetera, etcetera. Well, in my case, it's not in my case. In the case I'm proposing, which has to do with my daughter, they're denying her a passport
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because
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Oh.
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They won't they won't pursue the application because she has to have government ID. And, of course, to get the government ID I shouldn't say of course. In fact, to get the government ID, either an ID or a pass a driver's license, she must have a Social Security number, and it's circular logic. You know, that kind of thing. Mhmm. And I have not yet she and I have not yet gotten the time to go down to Miami and, talk to the board, so to speak, the, passport agency down there, which is where we would go. Right. And I had identified multiple violations in my mind.
Of course, you always, seize on the things that plead your case. But the violation of freedom of religion, which would be first amendment, freedom of association, which would be first amendment, involuntary servitude, I e tax, thirteenth amendment. And when when, Paul brought forward that idea of requiring an ID, In his case, it was somewhat facetious, but really not. The principle is the same. You know? You're impeding I can't buy I can't buy beverages, adult beverages. You're impeding commerce by making me have an ID. It occurred to me that the commerce clause might also apply in this case in terms of having impeding the access to a passport because the whole point is to use it as the ID.
I mean, that's the that's the whole point in her getting one. And to require you to have an ID to get it, well, it's just frustrating. And I was curious if Mark had any in had could had any thoughts on that idea of the commerce clause having any bearing, you know, ID wise.
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No. Not Or is my question is my question even clear? Yeah. I think so. But, no, I don't see how the commerce clause would have anything to do with your citizenship status. I just I don't see how they're So who's given the blowback on this, Bob?
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Well, excuse me. I've got a little frog in my throat. We went to the passport agency here in town at the it's at the circuit court, or district court. Sorry. And, they would not allow my daughter to even put her, application in because she does not have a government issued ID. Oh. I had gotten one for my oldest daughter back in 2016 when she was still a minor and did it that way under my authority. My youngest daughter got one a year ago, and she got it basically by their lack of of due diligence, if you will. We didn't appreciate it until it happened to my third daughter, the middle one Right. Actually. But we used some IDs that weren't technically legitimate, and they didn't catch it. We didn't know we didn't understand that either.
She had a homeschool legal defense, ID that had been issued, and she had another couple of them that had been issued pursuant to our homeschooling and such. Okay. And my she was neither of my younger two daughters did I do when they were minors for family reasons I won't go into. And now that's come back to bite me and them because they won't I can't do that as a minor for the for them as a minor, and they're not allowing them. They, the government the passport agency is not allowing them to apply without government ID. One form of government ID.
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Right. And
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There's a workaround for that. Sure. And that's d d s zero zero seven one affidavit of identifying witness. You can get two people to verify your identity, and you don't need any state ID.
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I wish you were right. That is not correct. We've already done that. That is part I I haven't done it, but I just I saw the Well, I did we did that for my young sorry. Go ahead.
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You're you're at the wrong place. You're in a court. And and, you know, they can be little thugs there. I would find a passport agency and and then try and find out in advance, you know, explain the situation that, you know, the daughter doesn't have a state issued identification, you could even say for religious reasons is what I would say. And then what documentation do they need, and would the affidavit that you just discussed, I don't remember the form number, but would an affidavit like that from one or both parents qualify? And and then deal deal with them. Get out of your little local thuggery.
And I think you'd have a better chance at, if you reverse engineer it, find out in advance, ask the passport agency. You know, who you could send a little letter to is missus Robinson, our friend at the state department. She is the public relations officer, sent her a little deal saying, hey, we got this situation. She's also the freedom of information officer. Oh, she's a big Right. So you can send a, you you can send a freedom of information request to her. You can even do it online. And Mhmm. Just ask them, you know, hey, for religious reasons, I I didn't I do not have a state ID, but I need to apply for a passport.
What documents do I need? What other documents qualify so I can get a passport?
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Right. Well, they gave us the, phone number and such to the Miami field office, if you will, for the passport agencies. Right. The the local, establishment is the clerk of the district court. It's they don't have one at the post office, and that's where I had got Well, I'm confused. Mine
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go ahead. What I thought you said they referred you to the passport office.
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It is. Yes. It's the passport. It is. Correct. Exactly. The Hold on. US passport agency?
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It's a it's the official US passport
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agency. Right? It's extension of the To my understanding, yes. Yeah. They got it. Referring us up the food chain. They've got them in every big city in the country, I believe. Bob.
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Yeah. Bob,
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hold on. Bob, hold on. Hold on. I wanna hear the rest of what, Bob. You contacted the the Miami passport office?
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Yeah. They gave us the contact number and all. And Okay. It's our intention to pursue well, we haven't talked to them because my daughter was busy and I was busy and this and that's going on, and we're finally homing in on going down there. Okay. Of course, we'll talk to them first. But when, we had had no problem, like I say, inadvertently, they let my third daughter, my youngest Right. Slip through because they didn't even catch the idea that it was a government issued ID. Right. But she presented several, and we did the d s 71, my wife and I, which is the, affidavit of identifying witnesses, and everything went through.
And we didn't appreciate the fact that it had skated through until this past two months ago in April. And at that point, we realized that the, passport application for my third daughter, the one we did second, really got by on a technicality because they just didn't catch what had happened. Got it. Got it. And I said, well, gee. Can't you just do the same here? Can't you? Right. They said, well, now that we know it, we really can't do that. Right. Right. You know, they wore out the phone for, like, thirty minutes trying to work on some work around, and they said, no. You're just gonna have to talk to Miami because we're our hands are tied. So, anyway, that's where we're at. And when Mark Mark. Sorry. When Paul brought forward the idea of an ID, impeding the commerce clause, it just trick ticked my made my antennas wiggle a little bit I mean if that was yet another option to add to the list. But
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I got a question.
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You know, we had some issues dealing around the gun laws. The people were trying to buy guns, and they wanted some type of citizenship status or something or some type of ID. And I think they went and got what? A fishing license or something like that? So here they were able to Here's the problem. He went up to to buy something firearms,
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presented him with the passport card. The passport card does not have an address. One of their requirements from ATF is to have an address where they can check you. So he just went to the next counter and got a fishing license and brought that back, and they sold him the firearms.
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Okay. But that that fishing but that fishing license, is is that considered an I a government issued ID? Well, no. No. But it had an address on it. That was their big deal. Okay. I gotcha. Okay.
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Alright. Well, I tried. Right. Yeah. So our
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but so our big problem is with no social our big problem is with no Social Security number, they're applying some circular logic. You gotta have an ID to get the passport. And to get the passport, there's no need to have a a Social Security number to get the passport. Right. But at this point, at this age, they're past the major minor, and I have to I'm I'm out of the loop on that. So I'm just advising you may.
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Jesse's trying to say something, I think.
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Could you Hello, Jesse. Library and get a library card?
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Bob That's not considered give them an ID. Bob. That's not a government government issued ID. Not to their satisfaction, ma'am. Yes. Go ahead, Jesse. The libraries.
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Who funds the library?
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Bob, listen to me. There's there's 26 regional passport processing center. And one is Miami, another one is Atlanta, and so on. Forget about the middleman, the post office of just agent representative of the regional or the call like Mark said. You need to get you need to get the the under perjury, your Social Security that you don't have a Social Security or she doesn't have Social Security. Go through the I already have that. Okay. Go through. You can look at travel.com secondary secondary evidence. So you need one public and the one private. Your bible, get three or four affidavits of, the mother, the father, the grandparent, parents, whoever you have, their eyewitness to who she is.
And then you get some medical records or insurance and policy or anything like that that identified, like, private or or a doctor that's been treating her for years with the template in the top and sign with, whatever the the the signature or whatever they have. So with that, then you've gotta go to the regional. That number, our gatekeeper. You can hear the background. Sorry. The gatekeeper, you keep get the gatekeepers. Forget about they're gonna give you that number. It's a standard number that you'll call to make an appointment. If you don't have a fourteen days or an emergency going international flight, somebody die or something, It is almost impossible.
They're way behind the they just came a report in March of this year. They're processing center. They're not able to to, process all the numbers. The other thing you could do is go to your senator with all the papers that I just told you and represent them and not and then they will do the call for you. And there's there's a problem. 1920 I mean, 2024, they had 600,000 requests by the by the senators because they were not being processed because of incompetence of all the of all the place of all the regional, processing center. Do not go to Miami. Go go to the go to the one I don't know. Maybe one close to the Kansas City or anything that's really not too much of population and not many. I mean, Miami, there's it is jam packed. In Atlanta, jam packed. That's the only way you're gonna be able to get or you're gonna have a six month delay. And if you don't get an appointment through the, the standard number, you gotta see someone calling every day because they're not gonna give you if you don't have a emergency.
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Sorry about the background.
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Of the little, you know, my little style. That's something, Roger.
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Okay. Bob, have you you haven't talked to Miami yet. You've got their phone number, and you haven't yet had a direct conversation with them. Right? That's correct. That's correct. We just won't tell you because we had things going on. I'd at least call them and find out what they suggest before we go through all this stuff and all these other things. There may be a simple solution. You're gonna have to talk to them. Well, there's no harm in talking to them.
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I just like I say, it just it tickled my ears when Paul Paul brought up the Commerce Clause. Like I say, I've already got First Amendment violations, freedom of religion, freedom of association, involuntary servitude, I. E, thirteenth amendment tax, etcetera.
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But maybe I'm just gonna ask, is there a problem with her getting a Social Security number?
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Well, fundamentally opposed to it. Other than that, no.
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Okay. I mean, it's no jurisdictional nexus or anything. I can understand that, but I'm just saying,
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because that would allow you No. It's just an evil system. I didn't I didn't invest, you know, x number of years not not getting child tax credits and all that just to have them succumb and get it and bow into the oak. I have no interest in it. Neither do they. You've been a long time listener. We've developed a relationship. I understand your position. I was just asking.
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One of the reasons that they do require I mean, y'all you probably heard of this before. There is a requirement to have a Social Security number and a passport. And if you send one in without one, it's my information. They won't issue you a passport. Okay? Now the reasons for that are pretty valid, really,
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or at least half the Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. You're saying if you have a card if you have a if they have issued you a number, you have to submit it. No. That's not what I'm well, you gotta have a number. The reason for that is because of people
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leaving the country with huge IRS debts. So if you've got over $50,000 in collections, it's gotta be in collections. They won't issue you a passport, and they if you've got one, they can nullify it no matter where you are in the world. When they kicked that law in a couple of years ago, it seems like I heard that they revoked, 250,000 passports around the world. I know a guy in Argentina that was in that that situation. The other one is totally legitimate. Yeah. And it wouldn't apply to your daughter. But, it's for men Well, and not only that. Well, hold on. Let me just finish. This for these guys that go around impregnate all these women and then bolt out on their child support requirements and obligations. And if that happens, they won't issue you one either unless you're out of the country. And if you are, they'll issue you a passport, but it's only one way.
Okay? That's the only one I know. Hold on. Bob's got something to say. Go ahead, Bob.
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Yeah. When my daughter now this was nine years ago. My my oldest daughter, no ID no, no, Social Security number. All zeros, no problem. Of course, that's sometime back. But just last year, May, My youngest daughter, same deal. And, of course, it got through on the technicality of the ID, but all zeros because she never had one. We did submit the paper that says, you know, Social Security Administration acknowledges this individual has never had an account with us. So Undercam. It's you don't need a Social Security number to get a passport. If you have one, you must submit it.
Okay.
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Bob Right. I could speak Right. I could speak free freely now. Mark put right now, I think it was Mark, the secondary evidence you need. Trust me. I've been going through all this. I have one child that is not getting a password because I went through the local and regional, and it's already almost two years, and we haven't gotten it. And I have a locator number. And I have I've been to Atlanta. I've been to other things, and they cannot process it because it got it fell in the crack, and I don't receive no news from them. The other ones, I just went straight to one of the regional office and without no middle man, and I got them, all of them, with the application, with no Social Security, and, and just with three or four affidavit. You only need two. But I did it three or four. I went with extra and with medical rig and all. And the only thing you need to prepare yourself, and you call that number that, Roger or somebody else said, call them to see if you're able to get an appointment.
And you used to be able to walk in any of the regionals, but now you're not after COVID. I think the only one you're might be able to walk is some in the Midwest or Arizona. But the rest, you cannot do it. Maybe, I think Yeah. Texas. The reason I'm telling you to go go into the for example, in Michigan, I think there's one in Cincinnati, is that there's not too many people walking, so you might be able to go in. But this regional in the Northeast, you're not able to get and you will resolve all because nobody knows. One of the regional process center I went, they said, oh, you went through the secondary.
Yeah. We we have very few nationals doing that. So they understood everything. But the rest local ones, they do not understand the process. And you get one they wanna bully you or don't doesn't wanna go through it, like in your case, it seems so, you're gonna have trouble.
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They they they do understand. They just wanna make money off you.
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And Why? Josie
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Josie is another person, that is Josie's daughter that got her a passport without a social. And I was gonna mention, like, what, Jesse just said. Remember Harvey put in affidavits as proof of fact of of them knowing them. So you can use that, Bob, and go to a less busy, office like what Jesse's saying. Why are the I think you'll have better results. Why are the passport offices so overwhelmed all of a sudden
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in those areas when they're not in the others? National illegal migrants or what?
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I gave a report the other day in March. They're having a problem with personnel. When they recruit new guys, they're processing it. Much less, they're thinking of building under Biden six new, regional processing center. And the problem is when they bring the manager to do so, now you're taking them from one area trying to process another thing. When they get delayed with they got all the all this applications. So supposedly, when it passes six months and now they're gonna get to yours, to the one that are behind nine months, ten, twelve, now they can't process because they have a six month older than six month old picture. So now they have to send it back, and they're having chaos over the place. So now Dodge or something, they're going in there. They did a a presentation in front of the senator, and I don't know what's gonna happen. And I fell in a crack on one of those. In my case, in Arizona, it's one of the worst one when we did it in the state of Florida, and they sent mice over there. But the one that went to New Hampshire, Florida, and other areas, no problem. So but in the case of Bob, if something's incompetent, they're not accepting it. And I noticed that when I went to regular agencies, nobody knew nothing. It's not so much about money. I gave them the paper. I gave them the law. I gave them nobody knew nothing. And I was even willing to pay extra to do it. So once I found out and my problem now, when I go to the regional I mean, process center, they cannot go ahead with mines. It's like you have all the papers, but it has to be canceled from the original one or they have to process it. And I don't receive no answer because supposedly, two of the processing center told me the worst of the 26 is the Arizona and one in Texas. And we failed on that. But in the case of Bob, he just needs to go to one of those regional, process center.
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I would first thing you need to do yes. You may in just a second. Bob, first thing you need to do is contact the phone number and see what they say, see if they'll hear your case on the phone or make you an appointment, or you don't have to wait. Seem because we don't know. Where all this speculation, all this other stuff, we don't know what they're gonna tell you. Hold on just a second, Paul. There was a lady trying to say something. Yes, ma'am?
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This is Pam on Michigan. So they're requesting a Social Security number, and isn't that pretty much what we've all learned is a trust? So would that be also a that is nine digits long, like a EIN number? I yield. Okay.
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That's that I put zeros on mine years ago, but that that all these things had not happened. They had not passed those laws about the requirements of SSN, etcetera. Bob, I think you need to first off find call Miami and see what they say, and and and then we can discuss options, it would seem.
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Roger said No. No. No. Waheed, you're waiting. I've been trying to get in here for twenty minutes, Waheed. Don't even think about it. Yeah. Go ahead, Paul. What do you got? Alright. The problem the principal problem that I have with the Social Security number and the driver's license and the vehicle registration and all that, that the Supreme Court has already ruled that or issued the opinion that they cannot take a natural right and force you to get a license to do it and charge a fee for it. And that is exactly what a state ID or a driver's license or a Social Security card or whatever that is forcing you to do something against your will just to be able to exist in the situation in the construct they created.
So it is still a violation of your natural rights. It is still interfering with your ability to engage in commerce because, hello, ladies and gentlemen, the ability to trade is a god given right. They cannot deny you that unless you apply for a license and pay a fee for it. They can't do it.
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If I may.
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Hold it, Dave. You can't. Waheed had already inserted his foot in the door. Waheed, what have you got for us?
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And it better be on topic.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Here I am. Here I am. Okay. Now I caught the tail end of it. And what I wanna know is you were saying, Roger Sales, that when you originally did it, all you put down was zero zero zero for your Social Security number? Yes. Or It might have been I don't remember. Okay. And when what's the difference now? Can can I do what you did? Can't we do what you did No. You can't. Back whenever you did it? No. You can't. Because they passed a law that you've gotta have a Social Security number on your application for a passport if they wanna find out and make sure you don't have over 50,000 in collections with IRS or that you don't have two or three kids popping around that you're not being a proper daddy for. Those two things. That's why the requirement's there.
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Well, that end, if you have and I got mine years ago. That end, if you have been issued a Social Security number, putting anything else on the application, but your issued number would be lying on an application.
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And you do not wanna commit passport fraud. I'm promising you. But you said you said that you put 000. Yes. That was in 02/2007, Wahid.
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Things have changed. That's the point. This is a new day. This is a new year. Welcome to today, Wahid. I guess. Okay.
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Bob, call my end. I'll find out what they say, then we can come back and have the a little more of an intelligent conversation. We're just shooting in the dark now.
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Do you have any Actually, I didn't even call in for all of this help. I was just strictly after Mark's opinion on the Commerce Clause, and it just kinda took on a life of its own. Okay. Alright. There's a female trying to say it all. There's a big man. Discussion. I appreciate it. Who's the female? Look at the
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I think that's Mer. Look at the look at the look at the intravel.com, and it says it clearly. You can't provide a primary photo ID and lack sufficient secondary ID. You can have someone who missed the requirement for identifying witness vouch for you, passport application form d s 71.
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It's already done it. They want more. That's what I'm trying to get across.
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Do you remember Harvey? How many did he do? 30. Seven.
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30 or something.
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Okay. But and they were asking him. There was no problem on a Social Security number with Harvey. It was they took this, that they've taken with a couple of people, not many, of writing back and say, well, we're uncertain. We need, six more pieces of identification. So what Harvey did was he took he had a friend that's a printer. He took a picture that he was gonna submit as his passport picture, and he put that, and they printed a piece of paper with that picture at the top. And the statement was, I know the above pictured person for so many years or whatever. Well, hell, his his older brother, Charlie, has got 15 kids and 45 grandchildren.
He didn't have to go much further in Charlie's house. But they he sent in about 30 of them, and they, boom, popped his passport right back to him. But it wasn't one of these problems. It was one of these unusual letters where they want more in six other, areas of ID. High school yearbook, etcetera, etcetera.
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What it sounds like to me is that passport before.
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Yes. You got a passport before you had to get one to go to Vietnam.
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What it sounds like to me, Bob, is that you went to the wrong passport office, so you talked to the wrong agent. Go to a different office. You might have a different passport office. He was at the district court
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because in his town, they don't have an authorized agent at the post office.
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Okay. Well, then go to a passport office. That is, in fact, the passport office in Okeechobee, Florida. There you go. So go to a different one.
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Bob, talk to Miami and and and then come back, and we can have this, extra discussion. But I appreciate you taking yes. Oh, look who showed up here. Julie.
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Sorry. I showed up in the after show yesterday. I didn't know you had a question for me yesterday, and I don't know what it was because I Well, I don't I had to relisten to the show this morning. Well, this is the next day, and I'm old, and I don't remember what it was. I sent you an long email about Marjorie.
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Oh, yeah. I saw that. Yeah. I disagree with you. I like her. So
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I know.
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It's jeez. What what's that Did did you watch it? Have you hold it. Have you watched the interview with Tucker?
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Yes. But I don't like Tucker. I don't like Tucker either. So you keep asking me who I like, and I have a lot of, information about these people. Okay. So, they're all bad. They're all bought off. They're all black.
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Okay. She she didn't go to Israel. She doesn't take any APAC money, but she's bought off, and she's bad. Okay.
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Yep. She is. She's got money from Peter Thiel.
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Oh, okay.
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And and I can prove to you that her campaign was financed by him.
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Okay. Well, she's got the biggest amount of contributors from small donors in in congress. So, I think she probably will defer well, she may defer more to them than to him. I don't know the specifics.
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I like her. Okay? So go ahead. Okay. You can like her. I didn't tell you not to, but I wanted to ask, what was the name of that what was the name of that form on a state, travel site for the affidavit of identity? I'd just like to take a look at it.
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71.
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DS71. Thank you. Thank you very much. Affidavit of identifying witness. Okay. Thank you. Cool. Yep. Okay.
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Julie, let me ask you. Who do you like up there?
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Very few. Very, very few. That's why I'm asking you. Because well, Roger, this is my opinion, and we can agree to disagree. In order to get selected, because we don't have elections. In order to get selected, you have to be compromised. And I'm talking about the people with major cabinet roles. I'm not talking about I mean, there's 535 people up there, the little teeny people who are newbies and stuff. I'm not suggesting that they're compromised. I'm talking about the people who are on the committees who make the major decisions. Oh, yeah. They can't. They don't get there. They don't get to those committees unless they're compromised. I pretty much agree with you. Right. And so I'm talking about people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and all the other people who have significant, decision making authority and significant power over people who they actually bring onto their committees.
I mean, I've read too many books on this and seen too many things go, and I've got so many facts that Okay. Let me ask you a question.
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Since Peter Thiel financed her, why didn't they give her a committee for the first two years?
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Because you have to when you're first on these things, you gotta first be shown that you can comply and that you can be controlled before you get your power.
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Okay. Well, that's what I said. They wouldn't give her a committee for two years. They never even asked her to go on the Israeli trip with all the rest of her sin her her newly elected people in that term. They didn't even ask her. They didn't even issue the invitation. So that that's where I probably did this. He gave her money. She's corrupt. That's where I have problems with that kind of stuff.
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K. But it's more than just giving her money. It's all of the laws that it's all of her her, rhetoric that she tells everybody, on tele live vision and then what she does behind her behind back, behind people's back. She's got deep contract with she's now responsible for giving contracts out to Palantir. And, Palantir's CEO, Alex Karp, has privately met with her on many occasions, coordinating her position and all of that stuff and and and and to advance the agenda of domestic surveillance and social control. She purchased Palantir stock in April of twenty twenty five, which I have proof of right before the company secured a $30,000,000 ICE contract and she made $500,000 in profits off of that funneled through a Delaware LLC to obscure its origins.
So I've got lots I mean, I have books on these people, Roger. And like I said, we can agree to this grief, and this is what's so great about this, though. Alright. Julie, let me ask you this. Who do you think ought to be up there? How do they get up there? I don't have a worked with. The whole entire, shenanigans here has to be changed first on how people are elected.
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And it has to be one day, and it has to be watermark paper ballots. Right. And it cannot be anything electronic. She is. And we had sent all of the She has just, issued a bill on elections that if it goes through, they won't be able to steal any of them anymore. So how about that?
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Well, and that's that's not just that. I mean, it's not just the paper ballots and the watermark ballots. The way you cannot have these tabulator machines, these electronic tabulator machines and all of that stuff. So Okay. You know, all I know, Roger, is that her she just like everybody else who has power in Washington, DC, her little puny salary that she had when she was there has she's grown into worth, you know, 11 plus million dollars at work.
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She her father had started a construction company in Atlanta called Taylor Construction. That, Roger. That's what she is. That, and I know her. You just accused her of taking money to run. She's got her own fortune. That's what I'm trying to tell you. She didn't have that fortune before, and that construction company got government contracts thanks to her position. Whoop. She married a guy, Taylor. It's Taylor Construction. I But they're her family started that. And guess what? When she graduated from University of Georgia, she bought the company from her parents. They didn't give it to her.
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I understand that, but there's more to it than that, Roger. There's a lot more to what how her company garnered,
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contracts from the government and see what they're talking. Well, I I I don't know in Julie's world who how the hell the the world's gonna run because everybody's crooked.
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Well, it that's what my that's what my final conclusion is. Roger, we have not had proper elections, before we were born. These things have all been rigged, and it's all for the one world order for global communism. I don't necessarily. That's fine.
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Why are they gonna prime if if she's one of theirs, why are they gonna prime area this primary or this time around? I just disagree with you. Okay? So, yeah, those people might have all that. That doesn't mean that she's got bad intentions and doesn't mean that her voting record health she's the one that came out and said the anti Semite thing was the twenty second one of those that have come across the house since she's been up there in six years. And she said, I voted no on this one and present on the other one or vice versa or whatever. I just disagree with you, Julie. You gotta have somebody up there. At some point, you gotta trust somebody.
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Okay. Well, I'm just telling you, I don't trust any of them, and we can agree to disagree. Good enough.
[01:55:34] Unknown:
So you got anything else to add on that?
[01:55:39] Unknown:
Do we just go dark? No. That's why I'm gonna read the whole entire book that I have here of all of her criminal activities and treatment behaviors that she's been Okay. Well, I'm wondering I'm wondering why if it's so egregious that they don't bring out those things against her ever in public because they don't.
[01:55:56] Unknown:
Because they're all black males, Roger. And if she brings out something, somebody brings something out about her, she can bring something out out about somebody else. Alright, Julie. What was your other point? You wanted to ask about the affidavit or what? Because we can sit here and disagree with each other all day long on this. What about Massey? You like Massey?
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You dislike Massey too? Well, I was gonna tell you out of all the people, if I had to pick one person, it would be Massey who I would select.
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Okay.
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Gotcha. Somebody who could potentially be good. But, no, I wanted to know about the, DS 71 affidavit of identifying a witness. I just thought, I know that is not applicable in his circumstance, but something like that could be applicable in some other circumstance. You could use that form and maybe tailor it or revise it or write your own for an another scenario that you might need that for. Okay. Fair enough.
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Samuel, is that you trying to get in?
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to mention that little thing in the constitution. In order order to supposedly to tax us, we're supposed to be represented. We're supposed to have a congressman for every 30,000 people, and it's more like 750 to a million. Yep.
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Yep. They hadn't, straightened that out yet. And and
[01:57:13] Unknown:
one guy proposed that in the day of the computer, there's no reason for these people to go to Washington DC. So their argument about the seats and everything there and having to expand the institutions physically, It's a bunch of crap. They should be at home in our communities, you know, surrounded by people and do what we want them to do. Not go there and get thrown into this place that even if they go in with good intentions, doesn't last very long.
[01:57:46] Unknown:
No. That's probably true. Keep them at home,
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one for every 30,000. I think that would be a good start. You gotta be out. I think,
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isn't Marjorie and Massey the only two people in congress that don't have an APAC affiliate guy in their office? That's what they say. I think that's true. Yep. No? Okay.
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Hey, Raj.
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Yes. Yes, sir. Right at the end of the program.
[01:58:15] Unknown:
Okay. This will be quick. I I had a question about,
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I'm completing the DS 11 for my son. He's five years old. I wish I wish you to come in earlier. I will write at the end of the show. We hold over. Go ahead.
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Okay. So the question is, see, my wife and I, we we have, affidavits of citizenship evidence on file with the state department. Yeah. So I wanna include those with with the application for my son. Yeah. So I marked on the DS 11 that we are not US citizens. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. So yeah. Yeah. I just wanna make sure that, you know, you're putting the affidavit in the program. Okay. Exactly. Yeah. And then, also, I'm just wondering where in the d s 11 it states that you can submit,
[01:59:08] Unknown:
supporting docu documentation. I I went through the whole thing. I I don't see Well, it's in it said if you go down to where the oath is and they've changed the passport and it says the I agree to these. There's four checkboxes, I think, maybe five. Do you see there are statements? Make And it said oh, hold it. Hold it. Well, the last one says I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions. Do you see that one? No. But I'll I'll take a look now that I know. Well, it's somewhere in the middle of it used to be on the very top of the first page years ago. They've hidden it more now. It's what's called Yeah. I don't know if it's because it's it's for a minor that I don't see it. Doesn't make any difference. Pass I don't think there's a pass Okay. Is there a specific passport application for a minor? I think they're all the same. No. Not that I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Well, what you're looking for Yeah. I'll take a look. Alright. Hold on. In the instructions or in the oath, it's gotta say that somewhere.
I they're changing those things around. I don't see them on a regular basis. But somewhere, it's got because they've added that since I started teaching this stuff. It didn't used to be in there. And they get you to agree before you sign that you've read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions. That's one of the four or five they've got on there. If it's not there, they're phrasing it in a different way. Just go through the instructions, and you'll see do you know what a black box warning is?
[02:00:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I've I've heard of that before. Okay. Well, it's big bold letters, warning.
[02:00:49] Unknown:
And it says you can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits, comma. But you better not Yeah. I I just don't wanna get there and then argue with the guy and say, oh, you can't submit this affidavit. We'll find that. So I just wanna make sure. Find that and point him to it. We've had instances where that happened. The clerk wouldn't wouldn't do it. And the person, I think it was Princess out in California, asked him for, the supervisor. And the supervisor came down and said you couldn't do it. So all these post office employees that are authorized agents, though they may not all have taken the same training or pursued it the same way.
But that's in there. Yeah. Yeah. I I see where it is. Okay. I don't know all the other stuff. They change it. They've changed all this, but that's where the rubber meets the road. It's pointing there.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you for your help. And if they say no Roger, sir.
[02:01:42] Unknown:
Hold on. If they say no, you ask them for a supervisor. And if that doesn't work, you ask them what's the next step in my administrative appeal.
[02:01:56] Unknown:
Okay. No. I I've done it before for my other son, but, now I'm renewing my five year old. So Okay.
[02:02:03] Unknown:
I did you know, I just don't do these passports every day. So it's not gonna be that. Boy, I certainly understand that. Doing about once every ten years. Now what is it? Once every five years for a minor or three or something?
[02:02:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's every five. But Okay. You can't renew. You you have to fill out another DSI. Another. You have to go do another I don't understand why if the miner already has a passcode. Probably because they're minors,
[02:02:30] Unknown:
and you're having to do it for them. I don't know all the intricacies, but that'd be my guess. Who was trying to say something there a second ago?
[02:02:38] Unknown:
Yes. Keep the gentleman on. This is Sheldon. I'm holding one as we speak. It's new. It's fresh. You open up the application. To the right is page four of four. At the very top, it says application for US passport. There's a little tan bar that says warning. False statements made knowingly and willfully in passport applications, including affidavits or other documents submitted to this application are punishable by fine and or imprisonment under US yada yada. Yeah. So it says right there that you can include documents and affidavits undone. Yeah. It's funny. They don't tell you why to include them, do they?
[02:03:25] Unknown:
Nope. Nope. So, also, whoever it was, I don't know your name there. But also remember Dan. Dan. Hey, Dan. Also remember that that same warning box is in a DS 82. So the question becomes, why would they have it in both original and renewal? Because it's the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time. That's why. They have to. Alright. Good. So Well, good. I don't think we have any problem. Go ahead, Shannon.
[02:04:08] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I've got a fresh 82 here, and I'm comparing them. They are exactly the same. Yep.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Yep. So, okay. Anybody else got something for me here? Yeah. Well, they're the same exception numbers at the top. I would go after her. I forgot about you. You're on the back burner. I I think you boiled over by now.
[02:04:31] Unknown:
Yes. Anyway, when was that law passed about the the passport and the Social Security number? Because all four of us here, plus three of our friends did in 2018,
[02:04:44] Unknown:
we did all zeros here. After that. It was after that. It was probably After that. I don't remember, honestly, but, it may have been back when Obama two
[02:04:56] Unknown:
require a a social, the renewal?
[02:05:02] Unknown:
I don't know, do you? I don't know. Okay. I don't. Alright.
[02:05:07] Unknown:
That's all I had. We did it in 2018 with all zeros and got them right away. So Well,
[02:05:15] Unknown:
I don't know when that kicked in. It's been fairly recently. I'm not sure what fairly qualifies as.
[02:05:22] Unknown:
You're right. Okay. Thanks, Scott. But,
[02:05:25] Unknown:
that's the reason it's in there. Okay. Who who else got something for me? Mark, you still with us? Did you take off?
[02:05:36] Unknown:
Mark wants to take it off. Good. Good information on the Oklahoma I'm here. I just had to get to my Okay. Unmute. Alright, buddy. Well, you got any working in the background. Okay. You got any No. That's pretty much it. You know, if I if I sounded very enthusiastic today, it's because I'm running on methylene blue There you go. And not just your normal methylene blue. It's super methylene blue. You got it from Alex? You know who.
[02:06:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I would love to compare some of that to the the stuff that I get because I think ours is diluted a lot. I'd I'd love to get some of that you got. Okay. Well, Mark, we'll see you, maybe Saturday. You like to come on Wednesdays and Saturdays? So, Yeah. If the Lorde cherries and the creeks don't rise, I'll be there on Saturday. You, if you want, you got a a chance, you might pop in on Friday and explain that Oklahoma case to Brent. I think he'd find it real interesting. So, and if not, no problem. I'm trying to convey it to you. July 4, so I don't know. Is are you guys gonna be on July 4? Well, I think we are, actually. We usually are. And and it's, it's, and I I almost you know, Skype is screwing up. That was how Brent and I communicated.
[02:06:55] Unknown:
So, I've got Roger, I've I've got my hands really full. I've got a emergency situation, and I'm helping somebody. And so So you may not be able to probably even be on Saturday. Now that I think about it Uh-huh. Probably
[02:07:10] Unknown:
won't be able to be on this Saturday. Okay. Heck, we ought to take a weekend and all of us just take a couple of days off. That's still an option. So I can't yeah. Thank you, Mark. And we'll going into another one of these big holiday weekends. Yes, Paul?
[02:07:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I have a sneaking suspicion what emergency thing he's working on and, for all intents and purposes, he is actually on a mission from God. That's that's the way I think. Anyways,
[02:07:38] Unknown:
That's what I always said. Yeah. I have been,
[02:07:43] Unknown:
I have been in contact with Francine and with Brent, and we've pretty much got all of the, preparations for Brent's trust course and our group nailed down. We nailed down a cost for participation. It is a twelve week course. We're initially only doing the one on the essential elements of a trust and how to draft one. There is another course that he has that is the biblical basis for a trust, and what we figured would be good would be to allow people to, opt in to that one if they wanted to do that one at a later time. The, the cost per person is $30.
It is twelve weeks, and, the way it'll work is, I believe, on
[02:08:35] Unknown:
up Where'd the music come from?
[02:08:41] Unknown:
But it's coming from somebody that put us on hold, and they're still unmuted. Ah. There. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Some cell providers provide, elevator music when you put a call on hold. So it just irritates the the living stink out of me when when people do that. So, anyways, like I said, it's $30 a person. It's twelve week course, and we're looking at potentially, eight or 9PM eastern time on a Wednesday evening. It will be a Zoom meeting where, we're slating two hours for it. We'll be using my Zoom conference. We'll be playing the prerecorded, trust course video for that week, and then we will have, thirty minutes at the end for, discussions, questions, and answers, things like that. And I'm hoping that I can get Brent to check into those thirty minute afters afterwards so he can get the questions and and perhaps write answers that would be sent out to all group participants via email.
So, like, on a weekly basis. We're trying to get that in the can, and we're looking at about, oh, maybe the second week in, well, I'm hoping for the second week in this month, or it'll be, like, or very early in August where we'll be getting started with that. People will, they will have an invitation to the Zoom meeting once a week. They will have access to the recording of the Zoom meeting, and they will also have access to the course materials on commonlawyer.com if they want to, jump ahead. So, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a gonna be a great deal.
[02:10:42] Unknown:
I would really heavily endorse people taking this course. You know, even with my background, Brent, ever so often lays down a nugget that I, you know, didn't know about. The last one that he did, and I was like, finally, somebody could make sense of it to me, was on jurisdiction in the court as far as being able to blend multiple jurisdictions because I was under the wrong impression that you could only have one jurisdiction in a court at a time, and that's not true. Uh-huh. Yep. So you specifically identify the one you're defending. Right. Well, you could have more than one. You could have one that's common law, and you could have one that's equity law. So they could all be in the same courtroom at the same time and under the same case. Mark, did you hear what Barnes said about equity and chancellors and stuff Sunday night? We played it. But I just wanna encourage everybody.
Okay. I just wanna encourage everybody at at that just amazing prize, please sign up and take Brett's course. I just I highly recommend it. Okay. You know? Yeah. You just know. So you're gonna get a really good foothold on the basics of a trust, and most people have no clue how trust operates. No. And so, you know, if if if I'm able to, I'd like to sign up for that class too. Just so if there's something, you know, that that I've not been taught, something might be, you know, I'm unaware of, then, you know, Brent's got a lot more experience than I do. Yeah. As far as in the legal world. I mean, and he and he is an attorney. So Andy Andy is his specialty. He is specialized in trust. Yeah. So Right. Well, how do we sign up? All all y'all How do we sign up?
[02:12:33] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Robbie, hang on a second. Paul Paul will announce it. Yeah. Yeah. I will announce it. Send an email to me. It is p g b I e n e r. It's papa golf beaner, just like wienerwithab,@gmail.com. Just put in, trust, in the subject line, and then I will move that email off to a folder where I have all those emails of the people that have expressed interest. I'm going to be creating a, bulk email, with all of the the information and details on how to, how to sign up, how to pay for the program. We worked out how to, process the payments directly on commonlawyer.com so there it doesn't have to be anybody sending money to me.
It's all on on commonlawyer.com, and you just put in the $30. And, well, basically, you go to commonlawyer.com. You go to the donation link. You put in $30. You put in your name and your email address, and then you click submit, you process your payment, then you send a follow-up email to [email protected], and the link is right there, right on the page, right in front of you, saying, hello. This is me. I just paid for the, Radio Ranch trust course. Please add my name to the list. And then you'll be added to the Excel spreadsheet where where all the people are are noted, and you're in. That's it. It's it's just that easy.
[02:14:15] Unknown:
And for all the listeners, you might tell your Patriot friends that, we've got we've cornered the trust market, it appears here, between Mark and Brent. You'll get honest straightforward information, and, there's not a lot of people I don't think that are offering something like that that's totally legit. So heads up heads up. And one more comment.
[02:14:38] Unknown:
I wanna make sure that I add. I wanna make sure that I add. There are two different trust courses. Mark has a trust course, and Brent has a trust course. Brent's course is typically a $175 if you do it as an individual, because I got a group discount on as many people as we can, spank in there. It's $30 a head. Now it's more affordable, than Mark's course. However, that doesn't mean that Mark's course is not a good deal because from what he offers in his course first of all, you sign up for one course, you not only have access to all of the prerecorded courses previous to that, but you're welcome to sit in on any subsequent courses after that, when he does the trust course. He he provides reasonable one on one, tutelage with it.
It there's templates, to give you, like, a starting point. His is an absolute steal.
[02:15:43] Unknown:
It's just more costly. That's the only difference Yeah. Between the two courses. If you don't believe it, go to an attorney and ask them what they're gonna charge you, and
[02:15:52] Unknown:
you don't always know what you're getting there. Well, I just wanna make sure that everybody knows that I am not dissing Mark's course or Mark not in any way, shape, or form. It's just that there are, people that just can't afford his. And, it is my hope that they will find some way to be able to afford his in the future and take both of them. It couldn't hurt.
[02:16:17] Unknown:
So Alright. Yeah. Thank thank you, Paul. Paul that. And I really would just wanna encourage people if you're being held back because of price right now, and it's understandable, please take Brent's course for $30. It's just you just can't beat that. I don't think you're gonna be with a stick anywhere. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Ideal.
[02:16:39] Unknown:
We've got room for a 100 seats in Zoom. So, we got so come on down. Yes.
[02:16:47] Unknown:
PayPal, can we do the payment already, or we have to wait for you to set them up? No. You can do the payment now if you want. Just go on commonlawyer.com,
[02:16:58] Unknown:
click the donation link, and put in $30 says the cost. Put in your name and your email address, and then process that payment, and then send a follow-up email to [email protected] with your name and your email address, and that that payment was for the Radio Ranch Trust course.
[02:17:24] Unknown:
Yeah. And then you will be put on the list. One more question. Yeah. You you gonna send an email with all that information to the people that send you an email, the one that to take the class? Yeah. I can do that.
[02:17:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I will be doing that. Like I said, I'll be setting up a I'll be setting up a bulk email to everybody that has sent me an email expressing interest on exactly how to sign up for it. And it's it's gonna be a week or two before we've got things running. I've got some other things that I gotta deal with. But when we hit the ground running, I'm expecting it'll be sometime between eight or 9PM eastern on a Wednesday evening, because that seems to be the the least interfering with the other things going on, like the the Republic meetings and the Radio Ranch and Paul English Live and Well and all that.
[02:18:21] Unknown:
We're in the day. Yes.
[02:18:23] Unknown:
So, Julie.
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Julie.
[02:18:27] Unknown:
Yeah, Julie.
[02:18:28] Unknown:
For every for everybody on this call, please write this down. W w w dot sagaciousassetprotection dot com, sagaci0usassetprotection.com. That is a website of my friend, Trish, who lives in Australia. I highly recommend you go there. It's free. You guys can between now and when Brent's class starts, you can watch some free videos. A lot of them say an hour, but they're really each only a half an hour. The reason why or twenty five minutes. The reason why they're an hour is if you choose, you can, stay and listen to the Q and A from people. They're free on her side. It will just give you some overview of what a trust is and different you know, it's a great beginner, website. And like I said, completely free. You don't have time. I'm sure Brent will go over that stuff with you, but it's a good, starter course Primer. To get educated.
Primer. Yeah, a primer. Yeah. It's really good. So, yeah, is she correct on everything? No, not 100%. But overall, it it's a really good primer. So if someone can post that in the chat room, I'm not on FCC right now, that would be great. Sagaciousassetprotection.com.
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I yield. Alright. Thank you, Julie.
[02:19:55] Unknown:
Roger?
[02:19:57] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, sir.
[02:20:00] Unknown:
It's Roger. It's Robbie. That's Robbie. Yes, sir.
[02:20:05] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Robbie?
[02:20:09] Unknown:
It's okay. I came in late today, but I was wondering, did you, Roger, or anyone else hear the incredible debate last night between Nick Fuentes Heard pardon me. And Dinesh D'Souza and Dinesh D'Souza?
[02:20:23] Unknown:
I got part of it right towards the end and the questions and some of the phone calls. I didn't get the first part, but what I, heard I thought was very good. I tell you, they they both held their composure quite well. I evidently that wasn't the case earlier in the interview, but they overcame it and smoothed it over. But yeah, I thought part of it is very good and you know, hell boy, I would have never thought you'd see these issues coming out to the extent that they are now about Israel.
[02:20:54] Unknown:
Amen. Amen. Grateful. And Nick Fuentes is only 26 years old. No. He's a I love me from Nick Fuentes.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
Yeah. He's a sharp kid. Full by day? Yes, Dave. I'm just saying it's wonderful Yeah. To see this issue come to the top, and it scares the crap out of them that it's becoming so vocal. Yes, Dave.
[02:21:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I you know, I've I've heard the name Nick Fuentes, you know, and he was Alex Jones guy, and I I never heard him. I heard his voice, you know, as I was flipping through looking for something to listen to, and I don't listen to Alex anymore. He turns my gut. But I happen to tune into that last night, and I heard the whole thing. And, you know, I think Dinesh D'Souza Jew is a Hindu, and, man, Nick was freaking nailing it. He that was the one of the best debates. I remember heard a debate on this subject, but, man, that kid No kidding. Incredible.
[02:21:58] Unknown:
Amen. Amen.
[02:21:59] Unknown:
Is D'Souza a is D'Souza a Jew?
[02:22:03] Unknown:
He he in my view, he's a I know he's a Zionist. He is Okay. He's standing behind Israel. Alright. Well Dude, oh, man. I was blown away. I did not know who he was. I've heard you know, I saw his 4,000 mules or whatever the heck it was. And, I did I saw some of the stuff. I knew Obama. You know, I think all that was a psyop, Roger. Isuzu is he's if he's not a Jew, he's a Hindu,
[02:22:32] Unknown:
and he's a Zionist. Well, there's a lot of Amen. There's a lot of people that support Zionism that aren't Jews. They don't have to be a Zionist. I'm a Jew to support Zionism. That's what makes it so sticky is they go over and hide in the Jewish community, in the religious community. But,
[02:22:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I didn't hear the first part. Roger and said that the Jews were given that land. They've always been there by God, and it's such a joke. Yeah. You know, he thinks he's biblical and he's wrong. If those were the real Jews, they would be they would call themselves and demand to be called be called, Israelites, not Israeli. There's never been an Israeli in world history until 1948.
[02:23:20] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. You know, I'm just realizing that God was a real estate agent. I've never known that before.
[02:23:29] Unknown:
Great, Roger.
[02:23:30] Unknown:
That's a good one. Incredible.
[02:23:32] Unknown:
Yeah. It was great. It really exposed Janes as a desuju, and, I am I I am telling you, Nick is gonna beat somebody
[02:23:42] Unknown:
one day. That dude is incredible. Now He's my hero. Okay. I wanna give you a little tip here, Dave, that I heard somebody, maybe Mark, talking about. If you can't stand to listen to Alex, and I understand why you come away with that conclusion, I wish he'd quit self aggrandizing himself, but I understand why he's doing it. Got they got a lot of new people coming to that show every day. Wish we had that kind of a situation. But they've gotta go back and explain some of this stuff every hold on, Dave. Let me finish.
[02:24:13] Unknown:
I will. I know. I just wanna let you know. I wanna stop again. Go ahead.
[02:24:20] Unknown:
Somebody said they went to Alex's ex account, and all he's doing is cherry picking things like interviews and stuff like there that you might otherwise miss because you don't like listening to all this crap at times. But you can go over there and get main components like the guy that I saw interviewed. I think it was when Owen was sitting in on Monday, who's a former FBI agent, who is the only guy for twenty four years who's been studying, writing, and talking about all this Islamic stuff. Did you you I'm sure you didn't see him on there the other day for thirty minutes. I think he was on Harrison maybe. Well, he brought up some he's got a book out there, and now he's been studying it for twenty four years. And he brought up some things that if you had to come down between the two, Israel is defending us against some of these horrible things these people are doing. Okay? Now you'd have to listen to that interview to get it because that's just the impression I got. But, yeah, it's a weird situation. I just wish we could jettison all of it.
[02:25:32] Unknown:
K? Well, I'll tell you, Rod. You know, having, you know, this vision, or eyesight issue I have, I'm a phone guy. Okay? And Yeah. I understand. Tell you what. I listen to I listen to Alex Jones every single day, multiple when when the show ended, I listened live. And when it ended, I let it loop, and I heard it two or three more times during the day before I went to sleep. And I woke up listening to him every day probably until, about, well, when he got divorced. Okay? Alright. When he got divorced, I saw the change. And my brother was the guy that opened Alex's eyes to what's really going on in the world. And Alex Jones said back then on Access TV that he was an atheist. My brother told him, you better not tell people you're an atheist. You will never make it in this patriot movement as an atheist. And Alex and Alex was a great student and a great teacher, and he I learned so much from that guy. But I'll tell you what, I can't hear his voice anymore without me gagging. So as soon as I listen to Owen I try to listen to Owen. You know, when I'll tune in and and hear him, and as soon as he goes through a commercial break, I change it. But, you know, guess what, Rog?
RBN started having these debates with, Fester, uncle you know, Jim Fetzer and others. And now Alex is having debates. So he's trying to, you know No. No. Jump on their bandwagon. No. What's he, brother? No. He is. No. Okay. Alex did not come up with that idea.
[02:27:16] Unknown:
I know he did. Fetch or call or or or the guy, the 26 year old called him and said him and D'Souza had decided on this and asked him if he would monitor it. He did it was not his idea. I heard that.
[02:27:31] Unknown:
I did hear that. But I'm telling you, Alex Alex is piggybacking on RBN. RBN started Alex Jones. Okay? And,
[02:27:43] Unknown:
you know, Mark Quarantine and John That's not that's just not true, Dave. It is not true. It is. Jack Miller moved down to Austin to be close and try and get on his coattails. He did not start Alex. That's just foolishness, Dave. It's not true. Okay.
[02:28:01] Unknown:
Okay, Roger. Get Brent Bachman on here, and you you get him to tell you that, and then I'll believe it.
[02:28:09] Unknown:
I've been listening Marco
[02:28:12] Unknown:
and John Spatmiller started Republic Broadcasting before Alex Jones
[02:28:18] Unknown:
had any radio stuff. They put Alex on the air. That's just not true, Dave. I'm sorry. He was already on public access in Austin.
[02:28:26] Unknown:
I was I knew I'm not talking about public. It's after public access, Roger. It's after that. How do you think he got on the radio? John and Mark put him on their their program.
[02:28:40] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. If you if you say so. I totally disagree with you. Alright. Does anybody else have anything to do with me? With a lot of folks on here, but you can. It's your show. I Well, I'll give you that. I've been paying attention to the guy since none of you knew who he was, quite frankly.
[02:28:57] Unknown:
Who hell? Dude, my brother was was his first caller on his first TV show in Austin, Texas when he started that Access TV.
[02:29:07] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:29:09] Unknown:
My brother talked to him every single day. Alex Jones went to the Bohemian Grove not believing any of it because my brother told him about it. And on his way there, he stopped at the national parks to film the UN zone signs that my brother told him about that Alex didn't believe. He got a loan for $5 from his dad, and, Mike, the guy that started Alex, you know, that that helped Alex was I can't think of his last name at the moment, but that guy wanted my brother to basically be Alex Jones before Alex Jones showed up. And my brother said no. Kevin Kevin Booth.
No. No. It's Mike, a guy from Austin. Mike, somebody. He had a access TV show. My brother introduced Alex Jones to every one of those hosts on that that had shows on that out that Access TV in Austin. Right. That Mike guy, he was, he reported on that shooting, right, in the tower? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Mike went to Mike went to the Bohemian Grove with Alex Jones.
[02:30:20] Unknown:
That was one of the first thing Alex did. Who?
[02:30:24] Unknown:
Mike Hansen.
[02:30:25] Unknown:
Mike Hansen. Thank you. You you're amazing, girl. I can't believe the stuff you pull out of the air. That's incredible. Yeah. Mike Hanson. That's the guy. He wanted he approached my brother to do his own show, and my brother wasn't that guy. You know? He said no. But he's more color commentary. He fed Alex Jones so much stuff. Every day after the show, Alex would call him and say, oh my god, brother. That was absolute. Can I use that? And my brother says, can you use it? You better use it. Why do you think I'm giving it to you? Anyway, my brother went on a bad acid trip in high school, and when he came to, he was freaking having visions, clairvoyant.
He's seen stuff nobody ever told them, and he told all of those people on that Access TV show about it, and he got them all working together, and Alex jumped on that. He didn't at first, but he he didn't believe any of it. And Alex won't even admit that. He says when he read The Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, that's when he woke up. But my brother woke him up. You can go back and listen to those archive shows. My brother's Gordy and Austin, and a lot of people that listen to Alex early on know who Gordy from Austin is. Anyway, I yield.
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Here's something interesting. Yeah. Look in Genesis 23, and you'll read how Abraham didn't own the land. Okay? You know, they say they they were given it and everything else. It shows how he bought a cave to bury Sarah in in a field. And, Hashem, whatever his last name was, that used to be on RBN, and he was Muslim, and he brought this up. Right? And around that time, they're in Texas, there were all these threats that, oh, no. There's gonna be Muslim Sharia law in Texas. Right? You know, there's so many Jews in Texas. But so I put in the chat, and he read it on air. I said, oh, so they're gonna have interest free banking? And, we didn't hear any more about that for quite some time.
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Does anybody else have anything for me? Roger? I guess they do. Yes, Larry.
[02:32:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I was wondering if Paul received my email on June 16 that I'm interested in the trust.
[02:32:52] Unknown:
I have no idea whether he did or not. Yeah. I believe I did.
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K.
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Okay. Just making sure. Thank you. Alright. Okay. Alright. Thank you. Anybody else got anything for me? I'll see y'all tomorrow. Tomorrow is the Thursday. I guess we're gonna have a show Friday. That might be very, lightly. But then again, it might there might be more people here. So don't know. Anyway, that's probably what we'll do. And, a lot of folks are well, I would some folks are traveling over the long weekend because you basically got a three and probably you could stretch it to four. So I don't know. We'll we'll find out. We'll see. Just one of these holiday weekends. Okay? That's why we use free conference call is it's robust
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telephone support. Wherever they happen to be, they can call in. There you go.
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Alright. So, I'll see y'all tomorrow. We'll see what happens the rest of the day. Ciao.
[02:33:56] Unknown:
Thank you, Raj. Bye, brother. Hey, guys. I'm gonna leave the See you, Raj. I'm gonna leave the stream up for another twenty eight minutes, and then we'll be taking it down and processing the archives. So, take over and make it good like I know you always do.
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Can somebody email me that link that Julie talked about from Australia?
[02:34:23] Unknown:
I'll send it to I'll go
[02:34:25] Unknown:
Is this Samuel? No. It's Dave. Saving no. It's Dave in the thumb. Oh, Dave. I can email it to you. It's [email protected]. Right? That's right. Yep. I'll send it to you right now. Thank you so much.
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I think, Dinesse D'Souza was put on the, for all his good deeds, he was he was put on the Zionist Zionist pitonance program. He had used a little whip and hit himself on the back and say that he's sorry.
[02:34:57] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. Man, that if you guys haven't heard that that debate, wow. It was powerful. That kid, that 26 year old kid blew me away. He's amazing.
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Where can we see this?
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Probably if you go to infowarsum,.com. There Alex has a free you know, you can watch it. So somehow, it's infowars.tv
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or something like that. Right. No. I know where it is. You have to go to, the past archives. And by the way, I agree with you on everything you said about, previously with Roger. So Yeah. It's amazing how you you can point out all these facts and but he disagrees with facts. I mean, I mean, I have so much dirt on all these people, and I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the dirt I have, you can't make that stuff up. It's verifiable.
[02:35:56] Unknown:
Julie. And I wanna repeat this because of I know what happened with Roger and and Gatti. But Gatti, when he was in DC, he tells the story. He ran into a guy that he was in school with in high school who was a year or two older than him. They knew of each other, but they didn't hang out. So when Gaddy saw he was like a congressman or something, he looked them up because he lived there, and they started having barbecues on, Gaddy's balcony. You know? And that dude told Roger or told Mike that this was his first term. Right? And he said he was addicted to Washington DC. It's addictive. And he said he told him that his first day as a junior congressman or whatever they call him, the speaker of the house came to his office, and and he thought, wow. You know, he he thought he was privileged because he came in there, and that dude told him that whenever I need your vote, I have it.
If I don't need your vote, you can have the biggest, you know, soapbox and scream and holler and and say this and that to your constituents. But whenever I need your vote, I have it. And if I don't, you will never get a committee seat, and you will not be reelected.
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Yep. And that's what my whole thing is. That's the whole thing I'm trying to say. Everybody
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in in Washington District of Columbia.
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Yep. A 100%. I'm with you. You and I are on the same page, Dave, and I'm so glad to have a brother from a different mother because it is so true, the corruption the level of corruption is just the federal government needs to go.
[02:37:42] Unknown:
Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Dave. You're welcome. And, Julie Julie, Strawman has posted the link to the, debate. And if you're not on the, FCC okay. It's banned.video. Banned.video.
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Yeah. Thank you. So Look at that. Government is a corporate
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democracy, and you cannot elect anybody if you are a registered voter or if you're not on the board of directors and a shareholder.
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Yep.
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The the we don't vote. We don't vote. Voting doesn't matter. It don't do nothing. They've been like you said, look, my kids got this movie. We got our kids this movie. They're they're not kids. They're grown adults, you know, in their thirties. We bought them this movie called Fievel. Fievel goes to America. It's this little mouse from Russia. Right? And his family, they escaped the Bolshevik revolution because there's no cats in America. Right? But there are cats. The cats are dressed like rats, and the mayor of New York, the rat mayor of New York was a drunken bumpkin, and he wore you know, this is in the Bolshevik Revolution, '19, you know, 1516, '17. Right? This is a Disney movie, and the, the mayor in that cartoon for my little children was a drunk. And every time he hiccuped, bubbles would come out of his mouth, right, to show you that he was drunk. And he was taken names, of all the people, all the rats or mice that died and fell overboard on the ship and died so he could have their vote in future elections.
That was in that movie in, like, 1985 or something that came out, and we got it when my, you know, when my son was probably three, on a a DVD or a not a DVD. It was a video cassette tape back then. But, yeah, that movie exposes so much stuff, and all the movies do. So, yeah, you can, agree or disagree with anything I say, but you gotta be able to prove me wrong, and I don't think I am.
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Anyway, it's a corporate democracy. And I think one of the main reasons that they, they they don't want to follow the constitution when it comes to the representatives being one for every 30,000 is because that's a too big a group to control and do what they want them to do. But we'll never have that. Never. Yeah. And, I mean and if we didn't let them go to Washington where they can be, you know, knuckled over. Yeah. Corrupted. They Keep them at home. There's no reason to let them I mean, we used to looked it up. We used to pay Congress in the beginning $6 per diem. So $6 a day for every day they showed up, And they only they only were in session usually a hundred and fifty to a hundred and eighty days.
And they they did argue about, you know, whether or not that was too little money to be paying them, but they pretty much agreed. Well, it shouldn't be a place to get rich.
[02:41:06] Unknown:
Excuse me, Dave. Shouldn't have to spend their own money to go do the pee the work for the people, but they shouldn't be you know, they should be made whole.
[02:41:14] Unknown:
Right? Excuse me, Dave? Yep. Dave, what was the name of that mouse movie again?
[02:41:20] Unknown:
It was called Fievel, Goes to America. There's, like, a three part series.
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They're Disney movies. They're amazing. Watch them. You said you said Fibal, f I b o l?
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Yeah. F I v
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e l, I think. Okay. Thank you. Goes to go it goes to what? Uh-huh. America. That's the first one,
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and then there's a three part there's two more after that. Fievel Goes West, and I can't remember what the third one was. And they're and they're all good, like you said? Yes. They're great. It's a great cartoon and a great if you if you're awake, you'll see, and then you can share it with the young folks, the young kids that, you know, where the, why they're saying what they're saying and, you know, it's not just entertainment.
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I got five I got five grandkids. So Okay.
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They probably already know about it, but now you can watch it with an open eye and and point out all of the,
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stuff. It's crazy.
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It's, spelled f I e v e l. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Julie But, yeah, it's the Bolshevik revolution, and the Bolsheviks were cats eating and killing and destroying the mice and rat population in Russia. And then they come over on a ship, and it it's wow. It's incredible. And, you know, they come through Ellis Island and all that. You know? It it's pretty amazing, the history involved in this series. Julie. Dom Delaise. Dom Delaise is one of the voices of the cats. It's it's pretty good.
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Sounds good.
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Yep.
[02:43:13] Unknown:
Julie. Hey. Hi. Hi. K a cheesy.
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Yeah. Right.
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Joan, do you need me to email you the link?
[02:43:32] Unknown:
No. I just wanted to say kudos for what you said about Marjorie. I mean, it's obvious.
[02:43:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I got I got all the I got all the meat on all these people, including Flynn, including Hollywood people like Caviezel and Jennifer Lopez. And, oh my god, if you were to read this stuff, you'd throw up. It you it's two. It is two. There's too much information and you can vet some of that stuff up. So so Yeah. What do you got for a diesel? You can't get Alright. You look at you I got a so much on Caviezel. If you want me to send it to you, you need to give me your email address when you read it.
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Go to Hollywood Theater. Charles holmeseth dot com. Read for yourself.
[02:44:21] Unknown:
Yeah. But I got more than what's on there. Is that Dave in the thumb? Do you want me to send you the stuff that I have on, Jim That was Samuel. Oh, Samuel, you want me to send you that? Sure. I'll read it. Okay. So I have your cell phone, but I don't have your email. Where should I email it to you? Don't have an email. Okay. So just text it to you? Yeah. That's fine. Okay. I can text it to you.
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Yeah. Send the list out to me.
[02:44:46] Unknown:
Okay. I'll send it to you, Brett. You want me to just text it to you, or do you want me to email it to you? I should email it to you, Brett. Email is fine. Yep. Great. Thanks.
[02:44:54] Unknown:
Please please put my email on that list too. So I wanna double check what you've got and I've got. Yeah. I think it's you it's you're you are MervBailey@HotmailatYahoo
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or, Hotmail? Merv? Mer? I can't hear you.
[02:45:14] Unknown:
Oh, I muted myself. Sorry. [email protected], and the other one has numbers in it at yahoo. But I think you I think you I did. I emailed you. Yep. I emailed you before. Yep. Yeah. So either one. Thanks. Okay. Perfect.
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Has anybody seen, the biometrics coming out for anything you've got with, Microsoft?
[02:45:37] Unknown:
Yep. Like Hotmail? Yep. You gotta show your eye eye scan or your thumbprint or Yep. Kind of additional ID. We have ID. Me and three other companies in my in that compete against them that all have contracts with the Treasury, DOD, DARPA, Secretary of State, all of these agencies, all of these nefarious agencies, you're not going to be able to get on the Internet, and you're not going to be able to do any transactions without having a digital ID. So That's supposed to take place in August. Right? Yep. Oh, I don't know if it's August, but the digital, money system that was signed as an executive order from Trump on 03/25/2025 rolls out and is implemented on ninethirty, twenty twenty five. So, if there's any White House like people say there are, which I don't believe in, because this is this this nefariousness is rolling out at warp speed, will the white hats please come forward to stop this? Because I'm told that the Galactic Federation and we're watching a movie, really? I feel like I'm watching a frickin' nightmare. It's not a Will the real white hats please stand up? Yeah. Will the real white hats please step up? Will the Galactic Federation please remove all the clones so we can have our freedom back?
And please restore the republic that we once were.
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I don't think we ever had a republic. I don't either. I want a reprivate. I want a reprivate, not a republic.
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Yeah. I agree.
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They just needed a name to hang on it.
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Yep. Right. 100, Mer.
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And I asked I asked Gatti, is there any evidence of this woman asking, Franklin when they come out of the, you know, the convention? What type of government did you give us, sir? A republic, madam, if you can keep it. Yeah. Bullshit. Nobody. That he said there he can't find that anywhere.
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Confederation. Confederation with confederation is good.
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Right. Right.
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Yep.
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I miss Jim Ram.
[02:47:57] Unknown:
Yeah. I've been I I was talking about him yesterday. I've been talking about him a lot. He's been coming up a lot. It's like, you know they killed him in that hospital. You know they did. Just like just like Chris came, they killed him in that freaking hospital. He said no hospitals.
[02:48:17] Unknown:
Yeah. But he Yeah. His allopathic wife and the pastor talked him into it, and, next day, he died.
[02:48:25] Unknown:
Yep. The next day. Very next day. Come on. It it was it the blue meth?
[02:48:30] Unknown:
I don't know. He was taking that blue meth. I don't know if he kept taking it, but I didn't Peter Glidden tell him to stop taking that? It wouldn't blue meth. Wait a minute. I can get that. Methylene blue. I call it blue meth. He wasn't taking that either. That wasn't it. Mark, s put it in the I'll get it for you. Hang on. It's a sulfur product, but,
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yeah, I sure miss him. It's like there's a hole in the day. Well, yeah.
[02:48:57] Unknown:
Jim was taking that blue meth for quite some time after, Samuel introduced it to him, and he he researched it, and he had a bunch of shows about it. I was on those. I think he actually texted me some of those rebroadcasts, and I don't have that phone anymore. But,
[02:49:19] Unknown:
yeah. And then Yeah. He definitely took it for a while, but I don't I didn't introduce it to him. It was the other way around. The show introduced it to me.
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Oh, I thought you intro I I thought it to this show, but I got it from Jim's show. Ah, okay. Okay. I misunderstand.
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And he was on it, I would say, for a few months, but then, yeah, you're right. Glinton told him not to.
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I retract my statement for AI. Samuel did not introduce blue meth to Jim.
[02:49:50] Unknown:
It was the other way around, but I did introduce it to this group. And, you know, I've taken it. I didn't I didn't have a benefit one way or the other, so I just stopped. Well, remember, Roger got sick right after he started taking it.
[02:50:03] Unknown:
Interesting. Yeah. We're each grown ups. We gotta make choices, and Jim would like to experiment. But what he was experimenting was, pepper sulfurous calorium. And he was taking too much of it too, and he was hoping it would clear his system, but apparently, it never did.
[02:50:24] Unknown:
Call me a pathic.
[02:50:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Call me a pathic medicine. Yep. And Glenn told him stop. I need to What was he take what was he taking it for, Mar? Do you know? I forget. Is he hot? He didn't breathe. Right? No. I think you're right. But, you know and they diagnosed that he passed with a congestive heart failure, I believe. And so, you know, that's the kind of thing that, contributes to that. But,
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you know, he said Pepper Pepper. So you're what was it again?
[02:50:55] Unknown:
I'll I'll put it in the chat. You can see the chat. Right? Thank you.
[02:51:01] Unknown:
Robbie, did you ever get to talk to Gail, Jim's wife?
[02:51:06] Unknown:
Oh, is this Brenda? Yes. No. Oh, hi, Brenda. Hi. No. I I never heard from her. Did you?
[02:51:14] Unknown:
No. Not after I mean, I've Wow. Three times. And then she she texted me back and said, I appreciate your concern. And, you know, I told her that the second time or whatever I texted her, I said, you know, I I was in your place several years ago when my first husband passed away unexpectedly. And I said, I know it's hard, dah dah dah, but I'm here for you, and I would like to visit with you. I've got a few suggestions, you know, that you know? And she said, well, thanks, but I've gotta put the financial stuff first, and that's my priority. So thanks for being patient.
[02:51:59] Unknown:
Oh, well, Yeah. And that I've never heard from her. So, Brenda, if you're still interested, when this thing goes live again and people can sign up again, I'll contact you. Okay. I was wondering if you kept my number because I was trying to think I had jurors saying you had given me I did keep I did keep your number. But if for any reason you don't hear from me, please feel free to call me. Otherwise, as soon as we, go live again, they went through a lot of IT issues, and they had to hire a whole new staff and just redo the whole things because they already had a 140,000 people involved.
And creating a matrix of that was just they didn't have the, the the ITs did not have the, you know, the techie skills to to to really handle it. But anyway, we're still, you know, we're still looking forward to that. And Thank you. Yeah. You folks have a blessed day. So, Robbie,
[02:53:02] Unknown:
do you want to give me your number or email it to me or something so I can have it? I don't know. Do you wanna if you wanna give do you feel okay about giving me your email right now? Or Sure. Go ahead. I think we had give it to you before, but, this is my husband's. We both use it. It's, casin,uh,car,Holtman,holtman,@outlook.com.
[02:53:34] Unknown:
Okay. Let me repeat that. [email protected].
[02:53:41] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:53:42] Unknown:
Okay. No period in there? Just c holtman.
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Right.
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Okay. Got it.
[02:53:49] Unknown:
Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. I had hollered out to you a couple days ago to see if you Oh. Here, but I guess you didn't hear me or was tied up or left the room or whatever. So
[02:54:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I come and go and flit and flow. Y'all have a blessed day. Okay. You too. Bye. Bye bye.
[02:54:12] Unknown:
Dave, are you still there? I just wanted to ask. Does anybody know how long that Hi. Does anybody know, how long that forecast,
[02:54:23] Unknown:
the Sousa debate? It's two hours. It's it's two hours and maybe seventeen minutes or so. The debate was about two hours and then Alex you know how Alex is, and, they they went they took about two or three questions, and, he read a couple off of x. But, yeah, it was it was a little more than two hours.
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Thank you.
[02:54:49] Unknown:
Yep. And, you know, just to do, he was the one who was picking on the kid. He made some pretty snide comments, and the kid was the one who was, the, you know, the statesman. It's it's unbelievable. And I really never heard that kid. I've heard his name. I've heard some stupid stuff about him. I don't know if it's true, but, I liked I I was immediately, drawn to him. He won that debate, hands down. Thank you. Yep. Even though he's a Catholic.
[02:55:27] Unknown:
What? Hey, Dave. What do you think about Alex Jones being Bill Bill Hicks?
[02:55:34] Unknown:
I don't know who Bill Hicks is, so I can't comment on that. I don't my brother met met Alex when he was, like, 18 years old. I don't think he's Bill Hicks, but I don't know who Bill Hicks is.
[02:55:50] Unknown:
How's your how's your brother now?
[02:55:53] Unknown:
How is he? Yeah. He he had that trip and everything, you know, with that Oh, that was way back in high school. My brother's 68, and, he's he's not doing well at all. His white died, when she was 50 and, had a heart attack in bed next to him. And Mike Hanson, we were talking about earlier, His brother was a cop in Austin, and they they came to his house. And after he called and, they, you know, they you know how they do that. They accuse the spouse of killing, the other one. And, but when Mike Mike's brother realized who he was, he knew he didn't kill his wife. But she was pretty bruised up from that. You know, she had a heart attack sometime during the night, and, you know, he woke up next to her in the next morning, and she was gone.
But that really screwed him up. And, yep. He's, drowning himself in a bottle and a couple of different bottles. One of liquid and one of pills.
[02:56:59] Unknown:
Does he get near you?
[02:57:01] Unknown:
No. He's in he still lives in a suburb of Austin.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:57:07] Unknown:
Yep. So, anyway, yeah, he was play played a big role in the Patriot Movement for a long time. But, he he's, yeah, he's abandoned all that now, but he still listens to Alex.
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Maybe,
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he he can't handle him anymore, but he's he's still addicted to him. Mhmm. But he mostly just watches TV, antenna TV, and sports.
[02:57:42] Unknown:
Does he have children? Your brother? He has he has two children.
[02:57:47] Unknown:
One from his first marriage and one from his second the second one he was married for thirty five years. First one didn't last long, but and you don't see his first son, but his second son is there in Texas, and he sees him often. Oh, okay. Pretty sharp.
[02:58:08] Unknown:
He's sharp?
[02:58:10] Unknown:
Yeah. His son. He's a pretty sharp guy.
[02:58:13] Unknown:
Good.
[02:58:15] Unknown:
Yep. But you've heard that about Bill Hicks and Alex Jones. Have you? Have you heard that? Well, I heard more talk about that, but I I really don't know who Bill Hicks was or is. Is he is he supposed to be dead, but Alex is really him? And what what's Bill Hicks' claim to fame?
[02:58:55] Unknown:
Oh, he was a comedian, and he was the only other, client of Kevin Booth.
[02:59:03] Unknown:
I don't know who that is. Who's Kevin Booth?
[02:59:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, yeah. I don't know if you want the information or not, but it's something to look into. But, yeah, he Yeah. Bill Bill Hicks is kinda like George Carlin, you know, the the the truth bomb comedian type.
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Okay. Yeah.
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I love the word. You can see the similarities, though, between the way they act and everything about them, except for the horse voice. And, yeah, there there was some plastic surgery done, but all these other things match up. And, yep, it's him. Oh, and you know what he does too? He cut in on Owen Shroyer when he had Fuentes on on his own show. Robert Raybo brought this up one of his last shows and, that Robert had. Anyway, and I looked it up and, Alex comes in and he acts he'd like he'd been drinking too. Right? And he's messing with people on his his own staff. You know, you you would think he wouldn't interfere. Right? And, so one of them, I don't know, Shroyer, I think, said something about Bill Hicks, and he says, yeah. But I have blue eyes. No. He has blue contact lenses. Alright? And every once in a while, he'll do something where he tries to prove he has blue eyes. But if you look at a lot of his different, videos, if you look on, you know, Juan Gibson's bit shoot or or, or e Michael Jones. He did an interview with e Michael Jones. And you stop that and look with a magnifying glass. Those eyes are brown. You know, the brown overpowers the blue contacts or else he's not wearing them all the time, and I don't think he realizes that with the lighting.
You know? But, I mean, there's many different people that have said that. And in fact, there's some that have taken out insurance. Like, after, for example, you know, with the Obama's birth certificate and Andrew Breitbart, who happened to be fully Irish blood even though Jews, adopted him when he was three weeks old. But, anyway, at that after that event, James, James, Jerome Corsi, when he was leaving and he and there's a video you can find it. It's it's, it's, 03/02/2012. And he says, Bill, you know, everybody likes to slow down and play. They he calls Alex Bill, and so has Pichenic, and so has Steve. Well, they know.
They slip and call him Bill.
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And their eyes being brown shows off of the crap he is.
[03:01:34] Unknown:
Stepped in it stepped in it real deep. Yep.
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Yikes.
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But I always liked, you know, when he was doing, you know, way back when I first heard about him and he was on shortwave, I guess, I heard him at first, and the public, what what do you call it? Public access? Broadcasting.
[03:01:56] Unknown:
What? PBS.
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Mhmm. But then there was an interim guy. I think he was supposed to copy that they were calling Alex Jones too. And I don't know if they're both agents, probably. But there there's just a whole bunch of stuff. But, yep, he's he's Phil Hicks. That's alright.
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Whatever.
[03:02:23] Unknown:
So is there Bill Hicks up on the on the net?
[03:02:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can find him. Something. I think so. I'll find some stuff and put it in your email.
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Okay.
[03:02:39] Unknown:
Yeah. He's fun to listen to him, but, it it's interesting. You know?
[03:02:44] Unknown:
Very Yeah. I'd like to hear him. Yeah. All the different,
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coinky dinks.
[03:02:50] Unknown:
Cohen. Yeah. Most of the coinky dinks are are coinky stinks.
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You're right. Yeah. Synchronicities and all that jazz. But it's interesting that this Kevin Booth who was friends with, Bill Hicks, right, and, was his manager. And then, oh, when he died, well, he was, you know, Alex Jones' manager. Oh. And they're the only two people, only it's one people, that he's ever handled. There's a really good interview on C SPAN with Brian Lamb at one point, Kevin Booth with the dark circles under his eyes talking about you know, that was when Jonesy first came on the scene and, yeah, it's cool. It's fun to see all these different agents and how they put them out there and just laugh at it. You know? You can still learn stuff from them. You don't have to be mad and, you know, it's just Right.
Beware. Beware and laugh at it.
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Hey, you guys. Look on the chat. I put a link in there. It's a YouTube short entitled stupid people. You'll like it.
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Where where is it in the chat? Yep. Okay. Thanks.
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This is Carl in Utah. I've just been kinda listening on the back on and off, but I agree. I don't think I think you gotta use your own spider senses to make sure that, the information is correct. Yeah. Just take everything for face value. Even on here, I some of the stuff I don't know 100% and I can't think about. And everyone else I listen to, you just gotta think about and pick and choose the information you wanna truly bite onto.
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Yeah. We each need to pray for guidance is what it is.
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Yep.
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God bless us with the spirit. Gotta gotta learn how to use it.
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If I may? Nope. I've heard you guys talk about impossible, and I was wondering if anybody's seen the similarities in Johnny Carson. And, who do you think he resembles? What was that? I always had something running.
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I just wondered
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if anybody's taken a look at Johnny Carson and some of his old movies and well, not movies, but, you know, his old shows. And he comes on there, and he just kinda looks very tall, kinda, you know, like bush, you know, kind of does anybody else see any similarities to them? To who? Who do you think he was like? Johnny Carson and the Bush family. Oh, Well, it could be. You know, whoever he was, it was definitely to fill in after Jack Parr. Right? Yeah. That's a whole another subject.
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Murr, would you text, us that whatever Julie had texted you?
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Oh, yeah. Let me check my mail.
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K. See if I can send it I can send anything to you too at your [email protected] if you outlook dot out Oh, okay. Dot com. I can't say that word if you want me to.
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Okay. Yes. I didn't know if you had ours yet, but I knew Mer did. And so, yes, that'd be great. Thank you. Yeah. No problem. I'm sorry. What's your first name again? Brenda.
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Brenda. Thank you, Brenda.
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Mhmm. You know, outlaw might be a little more apropos.
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Oh, good. Yeah.
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Yeah. I was just gonna say also, which some of y'all have heard me say this before, met methylene blue. After I heard doctor Artis the second time, I'd heard it once and then, then and then it was a few months later, I heard it again again on his take on that methylene blue. You know, when he was researched and how and a lot of the bad shots and all that stuff, the snake venoms and other stuff with that he found was in them. Well, also, with that methylene blue, he started researching it because someone else had said a friend of his had started taking it. And he started researching it, and he it's got some type of toxin from some different snake or spider or something. I can't remember what.
But, his good friend died a week after he'd been taking it.
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So he You know what, Brenda? Also, all this I like Brian Ardis a lot, but he's totally wrong on those. I'd be very careful on those nicotine patches because there's several people like doctor Ariana Love and doctor Anna Mahoucha and stuff who have found, several chemicals in those, those in that tape that you wear. It's not good for you, and it is the same thing with ivermectin, where there's some neurological toxin that can pierce the blood brain barrier. I don't know if it's PG Polysorbite. I don't know. And SB something else. I can't remember the chemicals, but I would just be careful with taking this stuff. You don't know who manufactures it and what it's in what's in it.
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Yeah.
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Julie, did you I'm sorry. Did you send that? I I don't have either my email have anything from you.
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No. I haven't sent anything yet to anybody. Okay. Alright. I sent on to do my my to do list. I gotta go get all of the information from a file folder that I have on, like, these people, like, Jim Caviezel and, and Marjorie Taylor Greene and stuff, and it's very long. Like, I mean, we're talking pages long. It's not this one little short thing. General Flynn, don't forget him. Right? Oh, yes. And oh my god. When you see the stuff on end and what he did, he was involved in the, you know, election interference, and he was involved in the audit of the, of the twenty twenty election and where he thwarted everything. He had investments with those cyber ninjas down in Florida. Oh my god. You can't make this stuff up.
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And apparently, child trafficking too. Yep. He's they're all in they're all in child trafficking work. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't get to be DEI for nothing. That's right. Exactly. Anybody who said of DIA or d whatever it's called, Defense Intelligence Agency. Oh, I said, yeah. DIA. I said it wrong. Yeah.
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It's not good. And, you know, like, Dave from the thumb is correct on all this stuff on, on all that stuff that with Alex Jones and all this stuff that he reported on. But, you know, Roger just doesn't see this stuff and that's okay. Like Dave said, it's his show, and thank God he at least lets us have free speech and talk about it and we can just agree to disagree.
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Yeah. I used to be on here more when, before you came and,
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we wouldn't really lock horns, but he didn't wanna hear it. You know? He Yeah. I mean, he doesn't wanna hear mine either, but it's okay. I mean, he Yeah. He doesn't have to. All of us appear to really be in the same boat together in terms of our agreement on the corruption, you know, corruptness. I mean, I saw this meme the other day. It was really funny. It said anybody who thinks any American or any citizen of any country who thinks that the the people in congress who are worth billions and trillions of dollars are gonna do anything for We The People needs a lobotomy or something like that. It was something funny, and it had a picture of a cartoon character and stuff. It was it was funny.
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Yeah. They're all compromised.
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Thomas Mason might be the advised. Messi might be Roger will tell you himself that he's got a bromance with, you know, with a lot of these men on these different platforms. Yep. And it's all all the Infowars people you've got a bromance with and that that Barnes attorney and,
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Yep. Anyway
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Yep. When Roger was saying, oh, give your, you know, give your don't give your money to me. Give your money to Alex. Right? I'm like, yeah. That's gonna happen. Not.
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I mean, I everybody it's like every we all know that these IRS taxes are voluntary and have they been eliminated? No. And and and, you know, Roger is saying, oh, it looks like the IRS taxes are gonna be eliminated and stuff. And I'm just like, oh my god. The IRS taxes are gonna be eliminated. Did anybody read the big bad bill?
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Oh my god. I call it the big bad voodoo daddy.
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Yeah. I mean, it's built from the poor and it gives to the risk, and it's like the IRS is not going away. It gives Social Security is still taxed, but, oh, the seniors will get a little teeny tiny tax credit, which is a partial offset of their taxes. The top 1% get a 120,000,000,000 plus net tax cut and people making less than 50 ks will see their after tax income decline by 5% plus. And it takes away a trillion from Medicaid and it prohibits state and local regulations of artificial intelligence for ten years. Oh, my God, The AI is monitoring us. And, you know SkyNet
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people. That's SkyNet.
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Yep. And then it changes the rule of law. And it, you know, so now the president can continue to sign their his or her draconian executive orders without congressional approval and disregard the rulings of the judges even though we know they're all corrupt, but they he can declare the judicial orders unenforceable. And then you've got, you know, the 4 plus trillion dollars that it increases the deficit by. I could go on and on and on. I downloaded the whole entire bill. It's 1,000 I can't almost 1,100 pages long. And you can just do Control F and search, the document. But there's a few things that are good and and, oh, okay. Wow. The taxes on the tips are eliminated. Oh, excuse me, Roger, but that's temporary.
It's only for three years. You know? And then what? The taxes go back up on people's tips? They probably don't.
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It's not it's while Trump's in office.
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Yeah. Exactly. That's it. And it and and it's and all the other stuff that should be good. And, oh, yeah. It has some border stuff that's good, but we know that they're not really enforcing the border. You know what? How do we know what they're bringing in under the tunnels and how what they're bringing in when we're sleeping at night? We don't know. They just say that.
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Well, I don't I don't think they wait until the cover of darkness. They do everything right in our face. It's in plain sight. I did like, how they were going about it with, you know, Kristi Noem and and Trump and, DeSantis. They're showing the the digs and how it's air conditioned and but once you're in there, you can never come back to The US. And but even if you come right up to the door and then say you'll self deport, well, then you're okay. You can come back after a while. I don't know how many years. Hopefully, like, ten or something. But but a lot of people apparently, a million people have self deported.
So if they can encourage that, that's a good thing. You know, put up a building and and say, look. Look at this little prison we'll put you in if you don't self deport. You know? I think deportation
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should be a bullet in the head. Let him self deport then. I'll pay for the bullet. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Julie?
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Yep?
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Do you see SGB last night? It's, the he was talking about he put some videos, somebody in in the government saying that even though taxes are, you know, voluntary, the the IRS need to enforce the law because if people stop paying, the income tax, they they gonna be in trouble. You heard that?
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Yeah. I mean, obviously, they're going to because as, Joe reported in the show yesterday, I mean, our birth certificates are collateral for we don't have fiat currency. People think we have fiat currency. It's backed by our human labor. It's backed by the taxes that we pay, for the debt, and the government has been in receivership since 1933.
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Oh, yeah. Labor is the only value. This people don't get, you know, because they tend to think of, like, oh, like gems and precious metals. Well, they have to be mined and refined. You know?
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Yeah. Yeah. We just had to be born.
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Yep. And and that's what they claim the cryptocurrency is has value because it's been mined by, you know, labor. They don't they do they let robots mine it. How much water does it take to cool the the the, electricity and the water to to produce a Bitcoin?
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It kinda makes you hope future now, Larry. They got future now, Larry. The energy is gonna be free.
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Makes you hope the, grid goes down. Right?
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Yeah. Exactly. We gotta have electric cars so that because the grid's going down. Mm-mm. And by the way, Bori, this is Dave.
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Not Larry. Dave. I'm sorry, Dave.
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That's alright.
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Hey, Dave. This is Jesse. Imagine that you own one robot, and that robot works twenty four hours a day, three hundred and twenty five, and you need $5 for his because the only thing he does is collect tomato. What's the most valuable thing? The tomato, the the the bravo, or the labor of collecting $5 for you of tomato every year for connector. The labor is the ultimate.
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Right.
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Absolutely. So that makes sense? Why they
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that's why they sold our labor in the bank the fake bankruptcy
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and made us security
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to to cover that debt note.
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Or even after the the,
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And they have 300,000,000 of robots, cyborgs, or whatever you wanna call us, collecting tomatoes every day.
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Yeah.
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You know, the, worst thing about all of this is that, it gets even worse, when it comes to the mortgages and what, and what Roger was reporting about how these mortgages get funded because, first of all, they get record like, the promissory note, it gets record Roger says the promissory note gets recorded as a liability. No. It does not. And I have the Federal Reserve publication. The the I have the Federal Reserve publication on how mortgages are recorded on a bank ledger. It is recorded as an asset on the bank's books, otherwise known as an account receivable, because you promised to pay the bank.
And then the credit that they make on the credit side is they just, you know, put the money in your account using just numbers, just like a general journal entry. So no consideration is ever is never done. So you actually are using your own promissory note as a bill of exchange to your funding, you funded the mortgage. And then after that, it gets worse. So you already funded the mortgage. But then after that, they take the promissory note and they discount it and they sell it, in the market. So they're getting paid twice. But and I and yes, they do monetize the promissory note, but that's not the initial transaction that's placed in the book. So, it's completely fraudulent from the beginning, because you just gave them money.
You gave them money for your mortgage. Like, you paid for you paid for your mortgage when you signed that promissory note. Yeah. That that cash represented,
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didn't exist until you signed that. Right?
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Well, it it's worse than that because it's you can't really use the word cash because we don't have money anymore. We don't have gold and silver anymore. So all we have is fake federal reserve notes, and it's it's you you could just write your own piece of paper that say I promised to pay you this, and you you've already paid for whatever you wrote for the promissory note. And then
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people. And it's compounding daily.
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Oh, and you can't do that. It's like taking this is what they've done. It's like placing you're taking a quart of milk and pouring it into a quart glass bottle. Tell me how after you pour that milk into a one quart glass bottle that you're able to pour out one quart and one pint from that one quart glass bottle. That's what our financial system is. Yep. Like barren metal, like E. Michael Jones says. Yeah. We're just I mean, it's just so bad. I mean, I couldn't believe this when I read this. I actually got that book that Roger, requested that we get, and it's and it took forever for me to get.
But it's called, it's called Bashed by the Bankers. Now so I already read the Secrets of the Bankers that Tom Schaff, wrote, but this is called Bashed by the Bankers. And in it, he has so many references to all of these other books and publications that I've got that are out of print. And when you read this, it's just so crazy. This guy was like such a, they were a really, they were a really what do you want to call it? He was one of the, his family was one of the most the best farmers and he couldn't figure out why they couldn't make money and why they kept going into debt more and more and more and more so. And he started asking questions from people like, what is money? How do you get the transactions? Do you know? Where does the money come from? How does it get into circulation? What's the Federal Reserve's role?
And, oh, my God, it's just horrible what happened to him. These sheriff showed up to his house with this huge ketchup bottle and basked it over its face. And then, and tried to kill him and beat the crap out of him. And he survived. And that he wrote this book, and it's amazing. But the what's even amazing about this book is that the book he references are even more amazing than the book he wrote.
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There's there's so much about this. Yeah. And, we're basically the creditors, and that's why we live in a Exactly. Yep. See our
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Sex magic.
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Yeah. We live in a sex magic death cult. It's satanic. And the Illuminati are real. I hear people say, oh, well, tell me tell me one one one Illuminati, and it goes by different names, the brotherhood and, you know, different things. But if you read Jesse Sabotar's affidavits, you'll get a real.
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I mean, the bottom line is you could just write Marie, you can just write on a piece of paper. I loaned you, I loaned you, one piece of silver. And then you just convince the guy that you give the paper to that that note is the same thing as an actual piece of silver ever since they took us off that. It's just horrible what they've done here. It's the fraud is just so inconceivable and it's unbelievable how it's just amazing how much these and forget just like the fact that we don't have money and we only have currency, but it's also when you actually look at fractional reserve banking on top of the fact that there's no money and that we are the creditors and then the banks are allowed to loan out 90% of if you were to go and put $100 better reserve note in your bank account, in your deposit account, you're allowed to take, either allowed to take 90% of that out, so $810 and loan it to somebody else who then deposits it into a bank and then they can loan out 90% of the that $810 and you can see how they multiply the m one money supply.
It's just so fraudulent. It's just so evil. Whoever approved this stuff?
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And what country threw that all away and thrived? Germany. So, of course, they're demonized. The whole hoax never existed. You know? Jewish people need to learn to say, I lost relatives during the war.
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Just let that word
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out. Yep. And this whole thing on 10/07/2023, it's entirely AI.
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Yep.
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Entirely AI. See Matt Gertens, interview with, Max Egan, the crow house, or even just his own, Matt Guertin, g u e r t I n, his last rumble. And, they did this interview, though. It was very good of Max to do that. He'd unusually do interviews, you know, with people anywhere. He just does the walk and talks. But and this was in December. In December 31, Matt had a court date, and he had fired his attorney who was sticking it to him, you know, Ms. Prose and, they want to throw him in the loony bin. Nobody's seen hide in her hair since. So I don't know where he is, but I pray for him too. Yeah.
And he had a patent really good in, you know, just just, I mean, that's what Americans do so often is, especially if they can't go anywhere. So during the lockdown, he's working on this. But he had had all these ideas before, and it sounds simple and it really is. It's just kind of reverse your thinking. He, invented, a rotating treadmill, and they stole his patent and tried to backdate it. You know, I hear people talk about backdating. Well, they did that to him too. And, yeah. Just, you know, because there's so many implications for military and just make Hollywood obsolete because, you know, you don't need all these big sets and cameras everywhere and lighting and all that. It just the actor turns, keeps walking and turns, you know, the things turns and so you only have the one camera, you know, it's a it's just, it's it's very interesting when you think about it, how so many times simple things are are the solution. You know?
But, yeah. But they they wrecked his life. So I don't know where he is or whatever, but it's so happened. We need somebody to do some soldering. And, so this guy was recommended to him, and he was ex CIA and right down the street and stuff. And so while he's down there, who knows what went on in his house, but, you know, they came in and tore his house up and everything too. But, this guy says, OpenAI. And and so that really intrigued Matt, and he got looking into it and just went through because the only thing we have from 10/07/2023 was what was supposed to be coverage by Hamas that they turned over.
Okay? But all this is AI. If you go frame by frame, you can see. And, Charlie on, Moore's show today was talking about CGI. And, you know, that's pixels, but this AI works on a 64 tile grid. And, it breaks apart, including people's heads and and nobody's talking and you just go through it all and you can see it. Well, this is fake. It's all fake. And when you look at the cars, all these burned out cars, they're all either white, gray, or black. And in reality, about 40% of cars are red. There's no red cars. Yeah. I mean, there's just all these different clues, you know? But it it was entirely AI, and they even had, the banner, you know, how they'll do for the news put on the bottom. That came embedded in it.
And to kinda show, which is which is funny, how, they had cameras in both the vehicle dashboard and, also the grenade launcher. Right? So, they have, you know, supposedly the camera from the grenade launcher and then suddenly you're at the camera in the car and you could see the cracked windshield. You know, it's like, we have this and we also have this.
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You know? But it's totally me. They let you they let you see that, but they don't let you see effing.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're not supposed to know what any of it is anyway. You're supposed to accept it. And people do. They're accepting this thing, and they're saying about hostages. I don't think there were any hostages. I don't think there were any hostages at all. It was just an excuse to do what they're doing, the genocide. So but it's pretty interesting anyway. But, you know, reason I boycott, man caught Amazon is because in 2017, a month before Trump's, FBI team, 12 man FBI team went into Israel and busted Michael Rahn, David, Kadar, the, you know, just showing the Israel intel inside. Right? They know what's going on. These rabbis had Bezos destroy hundreds of titles of books discussing the the the holo hopes.
I don't even wanna call it holocaust. It cost somebody. That's for sure. But, yeah, the real Holocaust, of course, were what they did to Dresden. Right. Yeah.
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Yeah. I was gonna just, chime in here really quickly, and I can't remember who I was watching the other day. Oh, I know who it was. It was doctor Jack Crews. Oh my god. He's got some explosive information just about history on YouTube. He's being interviewed by somebody called Breedlove on a channel, and he was talking about, the Jews and how, it wasn't it was a whole a whole a hoax. But what they did was that Rothschild stole all of their wealth, stole everything from them.
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Yeah. Well, I guess some of it, though, you know, it was Rothschild, but they were trying to make them emigrate to,
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Palestine. Oh, yeah. That's what they did. But they also in in in doing so, they stole everything from their houses, stole everything from their bank accounts, stole from them as well. Well, look at all the Israelis that are fleeing now
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from Israel. They shut the airport for a while, but, they're just getting out of there.
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Yeah. What's your point in what's your point in saying that, Rothschild stole everything? That's what they do.
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Exactly. You're correct on that. We're just reiterating the evil. That's it that we already know about. We're venting. We're having a mental, therapy session here, Brent.
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Okay. You got Rothschild Boulevard there and you know?
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You have Rothschild Boulevard. You have Rothschild Incorporated. You have Wilbert Ross. We have we're just fencing. We're just we're just reiterating.
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You know, LBJ is part Jewish, so he's Jewish. And, he, his family back with, Leo Frank. You know about that little deal. Right? And, they were backing him. And then later, I guess it was thirty nine ish when, they were trying to get these Jews to go to Palestine, but he led a bunch of them or he and his family. And Abe Fortas, Abe Fortas is the guy that backed him and wrote the, apparently, the, the, Operation Sinai, the the USS Liberty. And while he was on the bench, he made sure creation would never be taught in schools again. So that's why we're stuck with evolution. Right?
Yeah. But, his family, the Baines, Johnson's, led in all of these Jews to, Texas. So that's why there's so many Jews in Texas. What's the only state that has an Israel day?
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The Florida is both still review.
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They're coming after you. It's the new review.
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Yeah.
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Right. We're basically just beating a dead horse.
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I'm enjoying it. Oh, they let Pete Dittler off.
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Oh, did he? Yeah. Yep. Oh, yeah. I see. The only two charges that they make stick. Right?
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Yep. He can do probably up to ten years if they stretch it out, but the other ones woulda got him life.
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Well, you know, he was groomed by Clive Davis. Alright? He was they were in an affair for years, apparently. Yeah. So that's where he learned his tricks. And Clive Davis goes back, Roger knows, with the all the rock and roll and stuff, and that whole deal is another doo wop.
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Doo wop?
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Yeah. But why they doing all this, you know, when people ask you that? Why you saying all that crap? Why someone wanna do all this to us?
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Because they hate us. Because they hate Christ.
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Yeah. It's something evil, something satanic. The devil is doing all this because we don't live so many years, and this been going on for thousands of years that some since the beginning.
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Let me tell you a little story. About ten years ago, maybe more, fifteen, I was in Miami, and they, celebrate, celebrate a a memory or something like that. And they put the white cross as a form with the names, like a big cemetery in in an area called with a youth park is there are acres and acres. I don't know. 200 acres or something like that. And so they do that for three days, and then you got only only those cross could be there if they have been verified where the the Cuban community. So we went with somebody else, and we're looking. It's impressive. Just imagine Arlington, Virginia, all the veterans dead. It was impressive. Tens of thousands.
And they do this every year. And then there was a man there in Fano, and and then we see the last name. I don't remember the last name. All about 10 crosses, one beside each other. And the gentleman that went with us, he asked him, do you know this? Yes. We were 11 of us, and 10 of us got killed in mister Fidel Castro's in the mountains and, and, and the revolution, whatever, Fidel Castro and 50 something. And then says and we still cannot understand because why this gentleman he told him. Why this gentleman, Fidel Castro, hate his people so much that hundreds of thousand trying to escape through through the wheels of a commercial airlines or planes in the in the Gulf Of Mexico or Gulf Of America now.
And, and then I just told him this. The only thing I said, he's not one of yours. Do you know that he's yours? And that gentleman that gentleman, his eye wide open. It's like he had an epiphany. Like like you said, now I understand after, I don't know, forty, fifty years is now I understand why he hates us so much, and he lost 10 of his, siblings. I don't know if he was the oldest, the youngest out of 11. So it was impressive, but he most of those Cuban community cannot understand that he's not Cuban. And that's why you will see he would they would send tens of thousands to Angola and Africa to protect the wells or the oil wells from, Rockefeller.
And you could see you look at you still could look at it. On YouTube, you just see them sitting together and talking to each other.
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And that's a little story. Well, you know who at Rockefeller's real name is. Right? It's Rogenfelder. They're Jews too. They came over in, like, seventeen something, 50, whatever. But they're Sephardic and came through
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What's their real name, Bert?
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Rogenfelder, r o g g e n f e l d e r. Although I've heard other variations, but I can send you something on that. Okay. Yeah. I'll send you the stuff when I get to my computer about all the other stuff I have on these,
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people on this and Brent and And and the system.
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Yeah. Yeah. And Jason Have you guys
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Go ahead.
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Have you guys seen pictures of Claudia?
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Yes. Claudia Shinebaum.
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Yep. Well, she's ugly.
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I like when they did the profile of her and made her look like the happy merchant. She looks like herself, but then, like, wait a minute. What did they do? They shortened her neck and did a couple things there, you know, playing around. But,
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and Cuba have a central bank too. That's right. They are able to keep functioning.
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And Yeah. Yeah. They say they don't have your they say they don't have a Rothschild central bank, but I think they do. And you can't They do. They do. And you can't freely talk about Christ there either, can you?
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They are they they talk about Christ, but they don't believe in in Christ. They believe in the in the, like, Santeria stuff. You know? Yep. Like Yeah. White people in bush. Well, what the if I'm French referencing,
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the only religion, to put it that way, that, mister Castro did not touch was the temple and the small community of Jewish there. The only one. They they talk to all of these, even the and then they infiltrate a Catholic priest, and they put his own right there. But you have community of Jewish heirs, and they don't have no problems. But every other religion, yes. Plus, they have become animals. You cannot practice any religion. So what do you think is happening here? Little by little, we're fading away from from the truth of Jesus Christ, and that's what's happening.
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That's the difference. There's either believers in Christ or nonbelievers in Christ. They try to make some other division in people, but that's that's the division. And, you know, I had a little thing there, June 2 with Sam Andrews because you've got, like, I don't think he didn't name a denomination, but, you know, they say that, Christ was just a man. He wasn't God, isn't God, and he is. And, so this is how the Noah high of the work. You know? They'll say, oh, no. I don't worship him. So oh, good. You can keep your head. But, was looking up about Khrushchev who's talking it was Mike Gaddy into one of his shows, and he goes, what what do you know about him? And I said, I don't know. I have to research. Well, his last name turns out to be Perlmutter.
And James in Vancouver likes to call in and talk about the huggy bears where David Rockefeller, Rottenbelder, is doing huggy bears with Khrushchev. And I said, yeah. They're both Jews. And I've showed him the information and stuff, but he doesn't you know, he just calls in and says about the Huggie Bears. But people don't wanna hear this, but this is the basis of it because they're rejecters of Christ. But they're not the only ones. It's really Satanism, and they're a part of that. Revelation two nine and three nine.
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He crucified the ship. Hey, guys.
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Yeah? I think somebody was calling for Jeff.
[03:40:46] Unknown:
No. I said he crucified the chef, cruise chef. Oh, okay. Yeah.
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What was I gonna say? I was gonna change the subject here a little bit on you guys. Are any of you guys gonna do the trust class with, Brent Winters?
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I will.
[03:41:06] Unknown:
So here's the thing that I want to tell you guys. I think all of these classes are good to have. I think everybody has more classes that you can take because then you can each the problem with a lot of these people like Trish is that who does the Gatius asset protection is that there's no one cost template that fits everybody. Everybody has different needs, different income levels, different assets and different family situations and stuff. I will say this, when I signed up for Brent, I paid a $175 I think, I don't know, a year ago and I still haven't taken his class. I haven't had time. So I think all of these, trust experts bring different things to the table that when you put them all together are fabulous.
The only thing I would caution you on is that Brent Johnson is factually 100 or not Brent Johnson, Brent Winters is factually 100% incorrect when he says on an irrevocable trust that you cannot be the grantor and the trustee, and that is critical. That is crucial. You definitely want to be the trustee on an irrevocable trust and have control over your assets while you're alive And without it being pierced by creditors, and that is 100% possible to do. Mark has case law on it that shows that this is that you are able to do this. And what you would do is if you were if that trust were ever sued, ever, you know, sued by an outside creditor or an outside party, what you would do is you would immediately resign as trustee and you would either have a successor trustee take over that irrevocable trust during the lawsuit so that it cannot be pierced. And then you can have various provisions in that trust stipulating who can be a successor trustee, what their roles are as a successor trustee, what they can and cannot do with the assets in that trust. And then when the lawsuit is over, you can reinstall yourself again as a trustee of that irrevocable trust. That is really crucial. That's totally wrong. You can't be, again, a trustee of an irrevocable trust. So I just want to let everybody know that. That's one of the things that Mark and Brent differ on big time and Mark's got the case law to back up, what he you know, to back up that this is possible to do. So I just wanna let you guys know that.
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Well, for $30, I think they do to take it because you could get wet your feet, you know, wet your feet with it and learn about it because 100%
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take it. I have I've taken it. I've paid for it. I just haven't had a chance to take the class. And I've listened to all of Trish's, sagaciousassetprotection.com videos, and I have you can go on to rocketlawyer.com and for free for first year seven days, you can create your own irrevocable trust online and then just cancel your membership. You go through a series of menus and you can print that document out and read it and learn about because all a trust is is just an agreement between you and somebody else regarding a house or a car or, you know, money that you put into a trust on how it's supposed to be handled and what can and cannot be done with it. And it protects you from creditors and from lawsuits if it's set up properly. It's just an agreement. And if you can read English, you know, and you can Google some of the maybe legal terminology that you don't understand, you can ask in in fact, it was really funny yesterday in the trust class, there was a we were going over a trust template and people didn't understand what this, paragraph said in the trust agreement. It was all full of legalese and everybody was asking, well, what does that mean? So, Mark took that, paragraph out of the trust template, went to Grok because he's got a monthly subscription with Grok and said, please rephrase this into a more simple English language. And it was unbelievable what Groff did for that paragraph and how it reworded it so that it was so easy to understand.
And so so anyway, so, you know, that I think everybody should take every trust class you can and even there's really good books on Amazon, even though I'm not a fan of Amazon, Murr, but there's really good books on Amazon. You just type in irrevocable trust and you wanna buy those things and, you know, read some of the provisions that you might wanna put in your terms and conditions or your power of authority in your trust documents. So I'm all for taking the more the merrier. The only reason why I'm such a fan of Mark's is that he literally goes through word for word and he's documented with a with a with a cursor. You read word for word on a 16 page document and then he stops. Are there any questions here? Do you understand what this means? You don't? Anybody can ask questions. And any other lawyer that does that, you're gonna end up paying thousands of dollars for something like that. That's just something, different. And we're not just using one trust. There's multiple trusts that we're using. He teaches you how to take two revocable trusts and put them inside an irrevocable trust so that the revocable trust that you have, you know, can be, like, eliminated, liquidated, and you still have the irrevocable trust that over that's over the revocable trust.
So anyway, it's just it's just food for thought and I realize I and I understand that his classes are way more expensive than Brent Winters, but, I think Brent Winters is also a genius when it comes to this stuff too. He's been in it more than like Mark said, but Mark does have some case law and case studies to back up what he says you can and cannot do that is contradictory to what Brent Winters has stated on some of the Friday shows. So, I'm just putting this out there for just FYI for people, to, you know, think about or to mull around.
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Yeah. Thank you. That's good. Yeah. And everybody has their own ideas what they have to do. I mean, Amazon basically cornered the market, you know? Yep. Yep. But this is my principle. I'm not budging. You know? Yeah. People have sent me a couple things from Amazon before, you know, and they're gifts, so that's different. But I won't order from them. I I don't even wanna click on their site.
[03:47:38] Unknown:
Oh, there's other Mar, there's other bookstores you can go to, like there's if you Google past price books, you have Abe books, you have Yeah. I know. Yeah. I canna -archive.org where you can Exactly.
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You don't have to be so yeah. You can use alternative stores just to find Sure. Yeah. You know that. You don't have to be dependent on them. I'm making a statement. Okay? And I will continue to do that because I think people need to shine the light on this. They don't know that they did that Yeah. In 2017. And this is important because we need to know about this hoax, and they destroyed the books.
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Yep. I agree, Mark.
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Yeah. And, Julie, these people made everything complicated because it's not English. They don't speak English. They speak legalist. That's why we are confused when we listen to them talking because we think they speaking in English and they not. And now, they I I understand that they're talking different language, but it's different, you know, because you know that they're not talking the same language that you're talking.
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Yeah. You're correct on that, but there are also some I mean, in the trust templates that, that, that's why you can use AI. I mean, I'm not a fan of AI, but it can be used for good purposes and then it can be used for bad purposes. So I am a fan of using AI for when it comes to legal legalese and learning how to dumb it down. Can you please say what you mean in simple plain English rather than using these, you know, like, stupid terms like writ of quo warrant tow, you know, and, you know, the judge staged the motion. You're like, what the hell does that mean? But that's why AI comes in handy when it comes to this stuff.
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So Yeah. They always tell you we're making law. They not they can make law. They making their opinions in pieces of papers, in fancy pieces of papers, and that's it. It's not law. No. I agree. Opinion.
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Yeah. I agree. But there's ways to dumb it down. There's ways to rephrase it so that an average two year old can understand it. And that, you know, you don't have to be lost in a field of fog looking for the blue star of hope after you're done creating a trust for your family. And once you create one that works for you, you know, you don't have to create the perfect trust the first time around. As long as you have, under a provision called under a section called power of authority, the right to add and change terms in that trust while you are alive, you can go back and take things out and add things to the trust. It doesn't have to be perfect the first time around.
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That's like a will. Yeah?
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A trust is like like, you know, that's your your desire. That's what you wanna do with your stuff. No? Exactly. It's just what you wanna do with your stuff and what you wanna have. If you don't wanna manage the stuff, if you wanna hand it off to somebody else, it's all about, well, what do they get paid and what can they do with what you put in that trust? Like, do they have the power to sell your house or do they have the power to pay the real estate taxes and homeowners insurance inside that trust? Or is that going to be paid by you outside the trust? You know, what on what conditions would they have the right to sell the house? I mean, it's all sorts of just stuff that you would agree on. And it's simple English. And that's what Mark tries to do when it comes to these is dumb the language down to the average human being and take out the legally stuff that's in there that's hard for, somebody who doesn't have a background in law to understand. And that's totally doable.
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Who thinks they own everything in this country? We don't. We own nothing. But you know what? We own nothing. About your trust then? I own I own I own They could stick a fork in that anytime they want. Yep.
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I And if we collapse you on your body, that's it. Which which we're not far from. And, hopefully,
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we we don't start a war that we we're gonna get our ass kicked in because then we really are gonna collapse that much faster. And that's why we're even doing the wars is to keep us from financial destitution.
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Absolutely.
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So we're gonna catch towards I like when you say we. I like when you say we. Like, I don't want I'll tell you what, Bory, is we get bombed by nuclear bomb, if we get hit by nuclear bomb, Bory, that's weak. Nuclear bombs are not real. They hit you with a picture. It's worse than a nuclear bomb because nuclear bombs are not real. Like a picture means that they are real. They are not look at Nagasaki and Hiroshima how they are. If they blow two bombs, nuclear bombs there, why they are people, vegetation, and they are beautiful cities.
And nuclear Popcorn popcorn popcorn. When a nuclear bomb blow up, you got thousands of years that you cannot use that's that area. That's all Middle East. They scare you. They always put fear on you.
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But still people die. They're never gonna do. They're never gonna do.
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These wars, they're not by accident. They want to eliminate America. My trust is in God, not man's trust. Forget man's trust.
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They have to Yeah. They just put fear in you. They don't put they they don't tell you nothing that's real. Just fear.
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Right. Very true.
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Look at the COVID. That that wasn't that wasn't true. They showed you a a video of freaking Chinese falling in the street in China, and everybody in United States start putting masks and vaccinating and all that stuff. That was all made believe. None of that was real. Then people fall for it.
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I would have to disagree with you about that, that none of that was real because they've used five g networks, and they've pulsed it against the people. And I believe that all of those falling on the streets and stuff were real.
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But you could believe whatever, but we are not there to confirm that that was true. You know? Look at all these AI videos that you see nowadays. They they look so real, but they are not.
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I think that some of the stuff is real and some of the some of the stuff is Project Bluebeam or CGI. And I think that's the whole point, which confuses so that we don't know what's what's real and what is not. So we don't know what to believe and what not to believe. And that's part of their confusion and their psyop and their MK Ultra plan, on humanity, which they've been using on us for decades, if not centuries.
[03:54:44] Unknown:
Yeah. And then you don't do nothing because you don't believe in nothing. Look at it right now. People in this country got the rise to god. I don't believe in chain all these because we are not made by the government. If we don't like what people are doing to us, we got the right to defend ourselves. But people are too dumbed down. They think the government is their god. It's like they teach you in communism. The only god that you got is your government. That's it. Nothing And people don't believe in god. That's right. Then I was gonna take your advice because people don't even believe in god.
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And if we truly believed in the, state citizenship, then we should be working on protecting ourselves through that and changing our system versus using men's
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trust. Really, everything that we're doing, we're just doing to protect ourselves from ignorant people out there to get our asses whipped in the street when we're walking and stuff, you know. Like, when you're driving your car, you don't wanna be stopped for a stranger, and he tell you, hey, give me this, give me that. And you're gonna try to tell him that you are this and that. And he's a ignorant. He don't know what are you talking about. That's what we trying to do, to protect ourselves from that. But it's hard because people just doing their job, you know. I'm just doing my job. Give me your papers. That's it.
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Yeah. He's got a family to feed too.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And if he doesn't tow the line, he doesn't have a job.
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That's right. That's right. That's right. It's all about playing his role. You don't see the First Amendment auditors when, you know, the police got, like, a line that they always tell you in the beginning when they meet with you. Once they go over that line, they don't know what to say. They start to line and they tell you anything and because they know that, you know, they don't practice people. Everybody bend over and say, okay, sir. This and that. Okay. You got it. You got it. Whatever you say, you got it. But when people go against that, they he are in trouble.
They twitch him.
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There's too few of us to be able to challenge our same names. Supposedly, it's a 3% to 15%. I don't think we're even one quarter percent. The problem is is people love bread and circus until they don't lose everything or they lose some family member or or food or other material things, they won't wake up. Look at every country. Look for the last two, three thousand years. So it's the same thing. While there's all this rest for the young people, while they're having fun every weekend and be able to go out and buy stuff in Amazon and hang out and go to the different boutique restaurants, it's just really hard to get their attention.
Well, everything's been planned that way. The short expansion, but also the older people, they they just don't wanna rock the boat. They don't wanna hear the truth. And I think as as what Murrah says, when you're disconnected from God, it's it's really hard to get their attention. Even even the religious people that go to church every Sunday, they're all also disconnected. This this is almost no. They're not gonna challenge their pension, as Samuel said, their job and, and their careers and and, and their retirements and their and their material things, their house.
We're in that I think there's eight stages that prosperity that you think you have everything. And but you really don't have nothing?
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We better hope nuclear weapons are real because it's about the only thing left that we have that might work to protect us, and nobody's gonna come to help us when we're down. Nobody.
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Just read the That's right. That's right. Tarvationates
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tarvationates in the meanwhile. You know?
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We're so hollowed out as a country. I mean, it's just we build these so sophisticated weapons that they don't even work. I mean, our f 30 fives, they sell for something like between 80 and a $110,000,000. It takes two years to build one. In World War three, we built b 17 bombers that could carry 18,000 pound bomb load. We built 360 of them a month. I mean, we are so far from being superior anymore in any category, technological, military, we're toast. And all we need is a is a guy like Donald Trump who thinks we're still in World War two times to get us all killed.
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If you look at Russia, they produce military equipment with 10% of our cost, and then they function much better than us.
[04:00:37] Unknown:
Yeah. We don't still have a hypersonic weapon.
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Yeah. And the people there are more hardy than us. That's another thing. We're we can most young people came and run a mile, just jogging or even walking. And, and they're not hardy no more. So you're you're absolutely right.
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They say that f 35 for every hour it flies, it needs between five and eleven hours to maintain it. How are you gonna keep sending we have so few of these things. How are you gonna keep sending them out in a in a sustained battle? I mean, that's the thing with with World War two. We we had lesser weapons than Germany, but we cranked them out in such high volume that it didn't matter. Germany was never gonna prevail.
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Sammy, do you, do you remember in the Iraq in the early two thousands, supposedly only only one tank fit in the in the cargo planes of military planes going to Iraq, and there's supposed to be two. It's just who who miscalculated that? You know? Things like that. Yeah.
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We're we're completely incompetent compared to what we I mean and there were still a lot of grafting problems in World War two. We had two scientists here that actually built the first gen engines before the Germans did, but they weren't accepted by our military.
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I didn't know that. That's true?
[04:02:12] Unknown:
Yeah. In California here, there were, there were prototypes built, but they they were never allowed by the Department of Defense to be put into production and tested. I mean, we were and then they when they stopped building the the the b seventeens, which all the guys who rode those babies loved them. We built the b 24, and they call that one the flying coffin, but they could build them faster and even more. They they put out, like, 650 of those a month. And but they were dangerous to be in because of the way they were built and because of the huge amount of stress on the airframe that it had. If it got, you know, one twenty millimeter cannon through it, it might not survive it. So where the b seventeens, some of those flew back without skins on them.
They they were they were awesome planes, but, you know, the military went ahead and built something that didn't protect its people in order to, play with, whether or not they could get, more range and stuff out of the plane instead of protecting the crew. I mean, that's just the way it was. And,
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if Germany would have pulled out that warping they had and they were last one more year probably, they would not be able to stop. And they will supply Japan and all that thing. You know, they said that Russia is the one who won over to against the Germans. But Russia lost 20 to one with Germany. 20. It was 20,000,021 to one
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because their equipment And we supplied them with tremendous amounts of material.
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And their equipments was not even a mesh, whatever they had, the Soviet Union, whatever you wanna call them. It's not even a mesh or whatever the Germany had. So they just kept on sending, like, sort of like Chinese kept on sending. And and, yeah, they they got lure in, and they were spread out. Now they were being attacked by different fronts, the Germans, but they would have those those, military equipments, those shots, and all things. I I don't think they would be able to stop. Well, that t 34 tank was, a match for the Germans, but that thing, who knows who who designed and built it?
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Part of the suspension in there was an American inventor. I know that, but I've tried to because the Soviets at the time I mean, we gave them 800,000, trucks. We gave them millions of pairs of shoes. They couldn't produce anything for their soldiers. And you you can give a guy all the all the weaponry in the world, but he doesn't have a pair of shoes in in that environment, you're not gonna get very far. We supplied all this, and we we brought it most of it up through Iraq. That's why Russia doesn't wanna see that under our control.
You know? I mean, I'm glad we have opposition to this country. I just so sad for our country that we don't have any leadership anymore. You know? We don't produce anything anymore. I mean, we're just in sad shape. Yet we we got the gorilla up there beating his chest like he's King Kong. You know? He's just a stupid little monkey, in my opinion.
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You know? I think I think what George Patton, they were thinking that he should have gone straight to Moscow instead of to Germany.
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I think Oh, he wanted to. He was keeping German, regiments together. Yeah. And but He wanted to go in and finish the job.
[04:06:04] Unknown:
But maybe the best thing would have been to make a u-turn and go to England and stop all those.
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Yeah. That's this
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this was the real reason for World War one and World War two. It was England. Didn't want the competition along with France from Germany. That was pretty much the bottom line. I mean
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There's a, a quote, during World War two from, Winston Churchill where he he says, we will fight on the streets. We will fight on the beaches. We will fight on the hills. We will fight in the forest. But if by chance, we should, you know, basically lose, our what does he say? What he says something like, our new world will come to our rescue. Our United States, his, our, England, our United States, he says, the new world in all its glory will come to the rescue, basically. You gotta look up that speech. We will fight on the beaches. We'll fight that I had an epiphany that day. I was listening on on John Moron's show. He used to play that clip in its entirety every day.
And one day, it hit me. One day, it hit me, and I'm like, oh my god. You know, I was always trying to figure out what's the new world order. What does that mean? And it they nailed it right there. It's the new world. The US was the Jew world order. And and I called him, and I mentioned that on the show. And he said, oh, no. I disagreed. He hung up on me. And he never played that clip again in its entirety where he did he he just played a tiny bit of it where it didn't say none of that. He took out the new world and the you're not there United States. It was look it up, man. It's, like, right in your face, baby. But they see, today, they they Trump has to have them bomb us, okay, so we can beg them to, you know, fight back, save us, whatever their their plan is, but they don't want us to survive. There's no way. I gotta take a call. I'll be right back.
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That little island, England, has done so much havoc in the last couple of centuries. You look from Japan to to Hong Kong, China, Middle East, all the problem we have, Middle East, this they created all this division, those countries. You go look at South America, Paraguay, Argentina, the South Africa. Everywhere you look, that little island with their maritime ships, they have gone everywhere where there's materials or raw
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raw China, the opium wars. I mean, they've got a black eye everywhere in the world, you know, according to, you know, they're just
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And then they get when when they conquer one country, they recruit those people and Indians from India, and then they go and conquer China with those troops. So usually, it's just Englishmen. They're just 10 to 20% of the troops they have when they at least in the last two or three centuries, when they invade and they create this rivalry and, ethnic group between each other with, the red coat, dressing.
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Yeah. And then we keep we keep thinking too. We we're gonna build, you know, more of these big weapons that are gonna stop everything. Well, it's so being proved wrong right now in in the the Russian Ukraine war. I mean, these freaking drones are the battlefield. You you throw a tank out there, a a stinking little couple thousand dollar drone is gonna blow it up. I mean, it has changed so much. And even the Russians weren't ready, but they've adapted well. And now they're getting the upper hand. And, I listened to an an a a guy that works for the Russian drone department, and he says how they started out and then what they did and how they changed this and that and tried to adapt. I mean and and, man, that's gotta be hell on the troops because they've got so many of these things in the air all the time.
A poor GI can't get out of his foxhole and take a piss. I mean, it's that tight. They're saturating the air with all the surveillance, and, I just see this shit coming home to us, you know, and surveilling us because all these wars that get fought in the world, people lose freedoms. And now the Chinese are making one. They say the size of a mosquito for surveillance. Just I don't I should stop talking about it. I'm getting I'm getting depressed. Go do something positive. Yeah. It's a mess. We're in a mess, and we better hope that Trump can put a new face on this ugly baby that he's made so far. I mean, if he needs to come to peace with the Russians and the Iranians, or we're just gonna sink that much faster the way I look at it.
[04:12:02] Unknown:
Take a deep breath. No. A deep breath. Let's breathe and practice breathing. I am so happy that all you guys are still on this side of the plane because you really helped me, put thoughts together and and, just just feel good and alive. And that's all we have. As far as trust are concerned, I trust my creator. And, you know, I don't I came into this mortal plane with nothing, and I plan on leaving the same way. I don't need any of this materialistic poopy because I know that I'm gonna go someplace else, and hopefully, it'll oh, maybe for a while. I don't know. Life gets real boring in a paradise, in in a perfect world. We need this kind of adversary from time to time, I believe.
Looking at it on a everlasting type plane, I don't know if you guys have ever pondered eternity, but it's quite long, quite short too depending on where you're at. Yeah. As far as the currency is concerned, how many of you know the four elements that make a banking note? I'm sure Brent does, but I don't know if everybody else does. And why we would call these things federal reserve notes when they're just half a note behoos me. I'm perplexed at why we don't call them what they really are. And when I do, and I have for years, I get strange looks and sometimes a query that'll, be interested in it.
Because when a a clerk or somebody tells me that'll be $5.53, I have to correct them. I said, no. We don't have dollars anymore. And then I define what a dollar is, and I define what money is, and I tell it what it truly is. And I've distilled it down to Satan's slave shekels, and, that's all about that. Anyway,
[04:14:20] Unknown:
I'll give my brain cell a rev from talking. Thank you for listening. So we we were given the the promise to pay by people who never pay anything themselves.
[04:14:35] Unknown:
Yes. And the wars that, they created, pitting one Christian side against another is it's behooving. It's twilight zone. It's who in the holy hell would concede or consent to even sign up to go fight these bloody morons? Crap. I I don't know. I I learned this when I was 16. I was at the point where, you know, Nixon stopped the draft, and I didn't even sign up for it because I quit school,
[04:15:13] Unknown:
which was
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one of the funniest and best things I ever did. But, yeah, it's behooving.
[04:15:25] Unknown:
Samuel, and they
[04:15:26] Unknown:
they think that Iran that survived the Mongols survived Alexander the Great and so on and so on. Have you seen Ayatollah? People think they're all in camels and they're all brown people, and they're not. Ayatollah, one of the leader, commanding, whatever his name is, he is he has white hair. He is pure white. He looks like ghost, like a ghost. And, and people think all these leaders up there, they just try to demonize, this race or persons or whatever there is. And they have more history. They understand more culture and history in many ways.
And, and, they think they're all I'm not saying they don't or they do, but, I have heard some of them say they know they practice a lot of them practice Muslims, but that's not their religion. And, and they know that area was was the the epicenter of Christianity. So you got this Syrian Christianity there and, in the northern part I ran to. So the creator of Christiana is over there. So they know more than what we think, and they have learned to survive all this, Mongols fighting and and trying to inflate and steal, and I'm talking about the 22.
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They were one of the few armies that ever kicked the Romans' ass on a regular schedule.
[04:16:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I forgot about that too. Yep.
[04:17:08] Unknown:
I mean, they're a great country. They some of the best universities in the world, technically speaking, but they're right up there with MIT. They you know? And they're they're a blend of peoples, and that's why there is a little bit of internal strife until we bomb the crap out of the country along with the Israelis. Now they're more united than they ever were.
[04:17:36] Unknown:
And they're the few country their leaders say, we need to destroy the Zionist. So when our media starts saying they wanna destroy Israel, they never say that. At least I have never heard that. No. But, you know, we can't speak their language or they're they just tweak a little bit to to to accommodate their theory.
[04:17:58] Unknown:
Israeli tactic right now, I listened to this guy the other day, is they're calling up guides in powerful positions in the country and threatening them and their family if they don't make a statement against the supreme leader, and they give them twelve hours to do it. We know where you live. We know, you know, where your family's at. This is what they're doing right now.
[04:18:26] Unknown:
May I?
[04:18:28] Unknown:
Yes.
[04:18:30] Unknown:
I wanna go back to what that guy was saying. Who was that before who was talking about the he's leaving here with nothing, he came here with nothing. What was his name? Gregory. Hey, Gregory. I wanted to talk to you about what you think you just said you wanna one of the four things that make up a banking note. I'd like to know what you think my thoughts are. The Treasury makes it up, the Federal Reserve makes it up, and We The People are, the third thing, as our labor is backs it up in the full faith and credit part on the note and then the, the actual promise to pay in terms of a note, the fake dollar on it with the promise to pay. I don't know if I got that right or not, but I'd love to hear your, your answer to that.
Maybe he's not on anymore.
[04:19:21] Unknown:
But now I'm here. I I got you. I just had to unmute. No. I you you took me out of context, which is part of our language, I suppose. We need to define our terms before we can have a decent conversation. But what I wanted to say was there's four elements that create a banking note, the maker, the amount, the due date, and who it was paid out to. Right? Before 1964, it used to say at the bottom of the dead guy's, head, payable to bearer on demand. And so you'd slap down that piece of paper, and he'd give you if it was a dollar bill, then he would give you a dollar. And a dollar is 365 point or 361.
I forget. Brent, you help me. Brent knows about this because he read the book too. He's got it. It's called Money by James Ewart, and it explains all the definitions of what is and what isn't as far as that's concerned. And when I tried to explain that to John Sattmiller and Robbie McDonald back in those days, and I told him that, I I called him Rothschild slave shackles or slave tokens. And it wasn't much longer after that that I was hit with some kind of energy shit, man, and I tore me up. And I'm down to five and a half teeth right now because my teeth went into a spasm. It was like a concert of different pain signals and frequency going through my head.
I wanted to put some lead there to, alleviate the pain. I don't know why I didn't. Hell, I had plenty of morphine I could take, but I didn't do that. I didn't even think about it. That's they're not they can they've had and have had energy machines and all. And that's another thing too. We don't need all of nuclear poopy when you got energy machines and frequencies that can, remember the the first Iraq war where all the Iraqis just jumped out of their tanks and everything else, and they just peacefully just pawned a surrender? That's the kind of shit that they've got.
[04:21:44] Unknown:
Well, yeah. And also, Gregory, they don't want a nuke our No one's gonna nuke our land here. They need our land. They don't wanna destroy the natural resources, so they'll use the direct energy weapons. Now China just came out with, drones that are smaller than a mosquito that can just, land on you, inject you, and and and generate a heart attack. So there's so much easier things to get rid of a population that they have that they've had forever. And I'm sure that mosquito drone has been around forever as well, but you're right.
[04:22:18] Unknown:
Yeah. So enjoy every precious moment you have. That's the only way I was just the present, and that is a present that was given to us by our creator. And, yeah, I get a little choked up just thinking about it.
[04:22:37] Unknown:
Yep. So I always say today is the present, yesterday is a canceled check, and tomorrow is not guaranteed.
[04:22:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Both. I truly believe that. That's that's very well spoken. Thank you.
[04:22:52] Unknown:
But, that being said, I still I have the I have the anxiety and the faith over fear, but I still have the, I just cannot believe what's going on in this world on a daily basis. And I do try to enjoy part of my day, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I have bad times during every day. But I that's what I love and appreciate about all of you in this group. It's like we're all on the same playing field. We all believe more or less exactly the same. And it helps having a different family like this to be able to come together and speak among among ourselves and share our truths that we know.
I mean, it just gets I get chills. I mean, this I look forward to these after calls every day with you guys. I love you all so much. You're all my brothers and sisters from a different mother. And I'm I'm here for all of you, too. I hope all of you guys know that there's I take my shirt off my back for any and all of you.
[04:24:03] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm the same Thank you. You. Same thing.
[04:24:06] Unknown:
I love all because it's true. You. Love all, trust you, try to paddle my own canoe, but I really, really, really like you guys. I I I I just like you a lot. I try to stay away from the h word because Rosemary told me it was foulest word you could ever speak. It's the h with eight on the end of it, and and that's all I got to say about that. And thank you, Boring and everybody out there again.
[04:24:48] Unknown:
Yes. I I know Roger. I saw him in the show of Sarah Webster and Tim Brown. I was like, wow. I was praying to God to, you know, give me give me something because I'm losing my hope. You know? And I need you guys. My life has changed a lot. Totally. Driver says nothing changed. No. Everything changed. Once you know this, it's impossible to put it back in the bottle. It's impossible. That's it. It's like when you put the toothpaste out of the tube, you cannot put it back. It's impossible. You wanna be here listening to this.
[04:25:38] Unknown:
Sorry. Is that when you Yes. Is that is that when you first Yes, ma'am. Saw and heard Roger was on Tim Brown?
[04:25:48] Unknown:
In in in Sarah Webster. Yeah. I saw him, Tim Brown in Sarah Webster. Yeah. And I call and Paul received me. Yeah. Yeah. And I did all the paperwork shit real quick.
[04:26:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Sons of Liberty, Tim Brown. That's
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Yeah.
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That's when you first saw and heard
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Roger. Yeah. And and Tim Brown. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's great.
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And when I saw him quick, I was come because Roger don't tell you. He show you where it is. You know? It's different. Because he don't tell you this is what I know. He tell you this is where it is and how it is.
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Yeah.
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So do you still listen to Tim Brown sometimes?
[04:26:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I listen to him. Yeah.
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Okay.
[04:27:02] Unknown:
And Stupider's being white is gray. Stupider is crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Old Stew. He's I'm so surprised they haven't killed him.
[04:27:22] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. He he's something else. I I mean, he's got some big hones. Yeah. Real big. What about what about James Corbett and Whitney Webb? And and I used to listen. I wonder what happened to But James Corbett live in Japan. You know?
[04:27:43] Unknown:
Stupiders live here.
[04:27:46] Unknown:
Yeah. But, the one world order can knock off anybody with their satellites.
[04:27:52] Unknown:
That's true. That's true. Like, Roger been saying this for a long time, and they haven't do nothing to him because, I don't know, some of us got god around us. I always been blessed.
[04:28:15] Unknown:
Yeah. It's hard to say how this is gonna play out. It certainly is, interesting to be around to watch it. That's and that's why I like doing it. I mean, after I get off this wonderful call, I I go to, you know, RVN to to listen to Fetzer where I'm late at. But, then I go to Stew or see what Corbett's done. I like Del Bigtree too on the high wire. That's that's, he's trying to get it out. Yeah. He's No. I didn't hear anything talked about on that turncoat Kennedy who's wanting us all to wear wearables
[04:28:58] Unknown:
now. You know what those wearable thingies are. Oh, yeah. And then he was saying that he liked for every American to use one. Yeah. He's he's in the club. You know, people don't understand. Anybody that is in politics and is up there in the TV, in the press, It's somebody that's controlled. They're not gonna put somebody there. They it's not controlled. Look at Kanye West, what they do to him when he tries to tell you something. He don't talking BS. He don't tell you a lie. That's right. They what they do? They close his bank account. They put him in a crazy house.
These people are powerful. They control all the law, all the justice system, all the press. You know? That's right. To go against the grain.
[04:29:54] Unknown:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. And that's what I love about you all is that, you don't have the fear. You got the guts and the balls it takes to, just write a simple little letter to some moron and some moronic place. Mhmm. And tell him, hey. I'm not You know what? Man,
[04:30:13] Unknown:
Roger give me so much power when I know him. I used to drive my car, and I saw a police officer, and I used to feel that I was gonna do it in my pants. You know? And now it's like it's different. It's different. The other day, I see a police in a store just you know, that they go to the store and they stand there just drinking coffee and doing nothing. And I tell him, hey. Are you on break? And he was freaking out asking if he was on break. You know? And my friend was like, what are you doing? Why are you asking me that? And I tell him, because he's not on break. He's not supposed to be here eating it hitting the tax dollars of the people. You know? He's stealing. He's a thief. He he's doing that. He's breaking the law.
And then he wanna enforce the law on you. Oh my gosh. He told me that why I asked him that. And I tell him because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to be doing a job serving the people, and you're not doing it right now. Yeah. And, you know, stuff like that.
[04:31:32] Unknown:
And waiting for a call to, maybe maybe, bust a sex trafficker or some, other heinous type of criminal that's really doing some really bad poopy. But, no, they protect those morons, and, they extract, you know, their, revenue from us, people that, they don't you know, that they can do it. The easy victim, the easy target. That's all they're after. They're they're a bunch of I don't like, those thieves that wear badges and drive around in fancy cars and even wear guns. Good lord. These guys with a 100 or less IQ are allowed to carry firearms for crying out loud, and then they tell us that we can't.
Give me a break. Oh, jeez. I'm I'm to the point of loading up. You know what I mean?
[04:32:33] Unknown:
Well, I don't can carry here where I live. You know? That's the that's why it's not trying here because I live in a small town and, you know, the police take advantage of the people that come outside the town. This is like a tourist town, you know. I live in Williamsburg and it's where the colonists live and all that stuff. And a lot of people from that town come here and the police concentrate in that, you know. Like, I noticed that they don't mess around with the people that live here. They always you always see a car with different plates from another state, you know. Because they know that that person is not gonna come back or go to court or something, You know? It's easy money.
You're gonna pay the ticket, and that's it.
[04:33:27] Unknown:
Easy slave shackles. Yeah. They're criminals. They they are legal criminals. They make their legal laws to, protect themselves and, their other, the other criminals. I mean, I was dealing with some criminals here that, stole from me, and I call up the cops, and they won't even come out to check up on it. But they want me to go down and file these liens and this, that, and everything else and reports. They're gonna cost me slave shackles and my precious moments. And, Yeah. I'm I'm beside myself. I I did finally eradicate them, but not totally because they got a couple of keys to some vehicles that I they were they were spending their moments in over.
[04:34:22] Unknown:
Yeah. These people are like the mafia. You know? If you don't pay them, they give you a fine. They put you in jail. They kick your butt. They are like the mafia. Nothing different than when I was little and I live in the neighborhood, and it was a guy that run the neighborhood. And everybody run by the stuff that he says. Even though he was a stupid guy, he was the one with the power. You know? He killed people. He he run the place, and that's what these people do. They tell you you're a criminal. They make you a criminal because they put their policies in a piece of paper, and you think that's law.
Mhmm. And but they are the criminals.
[04:35:12] Unknown:
10 poor. That's a big 10 poor. Good buddy. Yeah. That that I mean, you just said it. That's it's you know, watch The Godfather, and that's that pretty much tells it all. Right?
[04:35:28] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. They've been telling us in movies for a long time. Man, and it's it's when you wake up, you see it everywhere everywhere because they don't hide it. That's why they tell you, can you spell it for me? Can you spell it for me, please? You under a spell all your lives. We're living a lie.
[04:35:55] Unknown:
Yeah. That's another truism. Living the lie. And and most of these humans, they love their lie. They I mean, I've got people around me all over the place. It's like a bunch of zombies because they love their lie. And if you tell them the truth, man, they treat you like a vampire and put up the cross and don't talk to me. Get away. Get away. It's so dystopic. It's Twilight Zone.
[04:36:22] Unknown:
People at my job, they keep telling me that they're waiting for me to go to jail because what I'm doing is in legal. You know? They are so brainwashed. The they think that what I'm doing is all because I think that it is like that. No. It's unbelievable. Hey. But people there is not looking for this. You cannot tell them, because they look at you like you got three eyes.
[04:37:04] Unknown:
Well, they're so far removed from the truth. They don't have the guts to face it, and it keeps them stagnated in their their dystopic reality. We're and that's what I really gleaned from y'all is is, we're searching for truth. We want the truth. We're addicted to the truth more than anything else. And it's, enlightening. It's invigorating. It it gives me a lot of energy. And I thank you again. I can't give you enough accolades, by golly.
[04:37:44] Unknown:
Man, I feel the same way, man. Thank all of you. Every everyone in here, everyone that's in in the cause and in here right now, they bring something that when I hear somebody talking, I learn something new every day. That's why I can't wait to be here. Sometimes I call at 02:00 in the morning to see if somebody is here. You know, when you that's night that, you know, that you can't sleep. Let me see if somebody's in there.
[04:38:17] Unknown:
Mhmm. By the way by the way, Boris, we do have three eyes. We have that extra eye where you see things, but
[04:38:24] Unknown:
other people cannot see.
[04:38:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We see things, and we hear things that other people cannot see. Yeah. And God tell you, there is gonna be people that gonna be deceased because they cannot see or hear the truth. It's like a poison for them, you know, like, crystallized for Superman. Get out of here. Don't tell me that. You know, and and Hey. I I am I am almost almost almost ready to return my car place and my title. I got my my plates with my DOT number already. I'm just, you know, learning more and gaining gaining strength to to do it. And, the other day, I received a letter from the it looked like from the DOT, but if these people that they send you letters, they my register my number need to be updated with something else, you know, but that's for people that is under commerce.
And I called the DOT, and they told me that I'm good because I had a private number there. I'm not for commerce, you know, because they ask you for mileage and stuff that you drive during the year, you know, How many deliveries and stuff like that, I guess. And they send you letters, and they look so, like, official. You know? That you it's you're not, you know, like, coming to this call every day and, you know, that they try to BS us too many times. You go and pay that money, and that's it. Because he tell you, if you don't do this, it's gonna be $10,000 fine, and nobody wants $10,000 fine. You know?
[04:40:28] Unknown:
Or jail time. Boy, howdy. I had to go there just over a thousand slave shackles that, I wasn't willing to fork up to the judge after a year of going to, court on a, I didn't have permission from my masses to, put up a building. Yeah. Oh, man. Talk about, oh, I wish I was a national then.
[04:41:05] Unknown:
Could you imagine twenty years back, you're learning all this when you was man. Oh my god.
[04:41:18] Unknown:
Well, I heard Roger, and the first time on Spingola speech way back in the day, but I had already quit paying taxes. I quit paying, like, in 9899 because, Bill and Hillary, those morons, it wanted, you know, to take more of my right to, own a firearm. And then in retrospect, that's kinda petty now because there's so many different types of ways to defend yourself. But regardless, yeah, I I went under Erwin's shift, and we know what happened to him. But I was able to, fend off their blows, and then I just quit, communicating with them and went underground. And and I didn't think any need to, you know, to look further into it.
And then by happenstance, I I got a hold of well, he was on RBN, you know, when he had that, show on Sunday taking over Ralph's Winter Road spot. And then it started clicking and clicking, and then finally, I stumbled on, this conference call, and I've been hooked ever since. Much love.
[04:42:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Whenever you you're listening here, you're not gonna listen nowhere else. When I learned about money, I was like, wow. I go to I go to this place every day, and I don't even make money. It's all made believe. Well, money, time,
[04:43:27] Unknown:
language, and government are the four pillars of the feudal system, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, yeah. That that's what their whole foundation is. It's all man made. It it had nothing to do with natural or the ways of nature. In fact, their goal is to, separate us from our our third eye and realizing the truth. Truth is, it's a, you know, evil thing to them. It's they hate it. They they love to use fear to keep us away from it, and that's one of our main our main, drawbacks. And unless you can face your fear, you're gonna be trapped in it. Fear destroys and only employs more fear as far as I can see.
I've seen that for a long time. And I tried to practice.
[04:44:33] Unknown:
Shit. You're telling me when I send that letter to the passport office, I was shaking in my pants. And the passport took, like, a a week longer than what it's supposed to. You know? And I was afraid, you know? And when I received that passport, I was like, oh my god. This really worked. Because, you know, I I in my situation, I wasn't able to get a passport. You know what I mean? But when I did it like this, I get my passport. I knew that all this was true. And these people are scared of this knowledge. But they stay quiet, and it's it's rare the these people stay quiet.
[04:45:41] Unknown:
Yeah. The truth hurts. It's very painful. Saying that you're wrong is extremely hard on those that have a calcified pineal gland or pineal gland. I got some gas coming. You all be well. I gotta go for a minute.
[04:46:04] Unknown:
Okay. Okay.
[04:48:20] Unknown:
Is anybody still here? Is everybody gone?
[04:48:24] Unknown:
I'm here, Yulee.
[04:48:26] Unknown:
Is that it? You and me, Boris?
[04:48:29] Unknown:
I was talking to somebody else, but he got a phone call.
[04:48:34] Unknown:
Oh, that's No. I got gas.
[04:48:37] Unknown:
That was that was Gregory. That was Gregory. Gregory. He had any gas? Yeah. Is there a Gregory just said Gregory just said he had to get gas, so he farted.
[04:48:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Propane. I wish I had parts that big to fill up my propane tank.
[04:48:59] Unknown:
Oh, come on, Gregory. We heard Gregory, we heard it.
[04:49:08] Unknown:
Mhmm. You'll be surprised when people sell farts in the Internet, and they make money with that. That's crazy.
[04:49:14] Unknown:
Yep. I hear a little kitty in the background. Who has a kitty?
[04:49:21] Unknown:
My cat. She's driving me nuts.
[04:49:24] Unknown:
Oh my god. I hear her right now. So cute, Rory. Yeah.
[04:49:28] Unknown:
Because I don't pay any attention to her, you know. I'm talking to you guys and I'm entertaining the conversation, you know. And she's like looking for attention.
[04:49:39] Unknown:
She's so cute.
[04:49:41] Unknown:
She's spoiled. She's spoiled.
[04:49:44] Unknown:
I think all animals should be spoiled.
[04:49:48] Unknown:
Do you like this? Yeah. We are the only animal in this world that paid for living. It's crazy.
[04:49:55] Unknown:
Yep. Did somebody say my name?
[04:49:57] Unknown:
I did. It's Brenda. I was just wanting to ask your background a little more. I've just been on the calls a little bit here and there. So but it seems like you're very knowledgeable in a lot of areas, and I was just wondering kind of what your background was.
[04:50:17] Unknown:
Well, you'll see I have a CPA and an MBA, with double concentrations in marketing finance, economics, and general business. And I've just basically been an entrepreneur my whole entire life.
[04:50:32] Unknown:
You really used to work for the enemy.
[04:50:34] Unknown:
And I've worked at exactly. I've worked at the I've worked at the office of the controller of the currency and FDIC and audited banks before. And, so, I mean, that that's basically, you know, my my background here. And I've been in, like I said, five the financial and the real estate industry for pretty much all my life. Mhmm.
[04:50:56] Unknown:
But You forgot they're more important, a truth seeker.
[04:51:00] Unknown:
Yeah. And yeah. Exactly. And as Bory says, I'm a huge digger. Like, I literally get on Federal Register, and I read the executive orders, and I download them, and I read a lot. So, and these satanists have to tell you, Brenda, what they're gonna do. They have to tell you what they're gonna do and it's up to us to figure it out. If we don't figure it out, then they feel justified in doing what they're gonna do. So, you know, like, for example, COVID COVID nineteen COVID stands for your certificate of vaccination. I. D. COVID stands for the digital I. D. They put in your arm without your permission to track and trace you if you got the wrong lot of vaccine. And then what does 19 stand for? First letter in the alphabet. Most people think it stands for the year 2019.
First letter in the alphabet, a ninth letter is I. That's artificial intelligence. And then you look at the five gs network and you look at Starlink and you look at Space Force, and you look at how they're gonna hook us up to the Internet of things. And then, you look at, you know, so No. The Internet of bodies. Yeah. It's a body. You're the wide area wide area body network or whatever you wanna call it. But they tell you what they're gonna do and they oftentimes tell you that in the executive orders, in the bills they pass in Congress, but the bills they pass are oftentimes given to them the night before, the 3,000 pages long, and these people are all bought and paid off and they pass it. And, nobody has a chance to read 3,500 pages overnight. Same thing with this big beautiful bill. I have it downloaded. It's over a thousand pages, and I can search for things in it. It's the worst thing that could ever happen in anybody's life with what's going on. I mean, it literally increases our deficit by $4,000,000,000,000 It it it still literally steals from the poor and enriches the rich even more. It cuts from Medicare.
You know, they just don't most people don't like to read anymore, Brenda. And I understand why. Most people don't have the time. And that was designed on purpose because we're debt played. So work, work, work and then pay taxes. And even though, you know, you become a national and you're out of the tax system, you're really not out of the tax system. If you go and take your electric bill and your all your utility bills really take a ruler and go down that whole entire bill and highlight all of the taxes you're paying and then take what that bill is and what percent of taxes you're paying in that bill. And it's twenty, thirty, 35% of that bill is taxes.
Everything is tax, tax, tax, tax, tax.
[04:53:34] Unknown:
Oh, I know. Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. And and, you know, a lot of us are just waking up to they've been telling us what they were gonna do in our face for years, but,
[04:53:46] Unknown:
didn't realize it until we've had this dig in deeper to stuff. So yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, I and then I I don't know. God brought people into my life. So God bought brought Deborah Tavares into my life. Oh my god. And he brought a man Javi into my life. Those two people are just geniuses. I mean, a man Javi, I talk to him all the not all the time, but I talk to him, I would say, frequently. And he has all the patents on facial recognition software. He worked in, all of the startup companies, and assigned his patents in Silicon Valley. And then he determined he found out that what he was basically working on was going to be used against We The People.
And now he has new data that all these LED lights are horrible for you, horrible for your, horrible for your, your health. And then, Deborah, to verify Your radiation?
[04:54:42] Unknown:
Your eyes?
[04:54:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Everything. It's called that. And then they, you know, lot they, tried to phase out incandescent bulbs, which are the healthiest types of bulbs for you. You know, Deborah Tavares, she has been a huge thing about frequencies forever. She downloaded all the documents from the Council of Foreign Relations, the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, the World Health Organization, and those documents you have to find on the archives or dark web now because cause they don't exist anymore, but they're on her website, Brenda. So she's educated me in all this stuff. And then I did a huge project, for her on all of the patents that DARPA has, on frequencies to kill you and me. That was a that was a really hard project I did because that was nine pages long, and I was just shaking my head during the whole thing. And then, you know, I don't know. Then I started losing everybody as family members and friends because I really don't wanna be around anybody who's supporting, who doesn't wanna wake up, who doesn't wanna read and research, and who doesn't wanna align with what's going on right now. And it's just going through life as la titata.
I can't I can't be around anybody's energies who thinks that this is just a grandiose world that we're in knowing that we're being murdered literally every day we wake up with the poisonous air and the water and the chemtrails. It's just it's just so evil that I have to be on channels like this with people who are in alignment with what's going on so we can share information because a lot of this they're doing this to attack our mental sanity and to attack us as to attack our daily lives, to make it horrible for us. And I think the more that we have groups like this that can help each other and where we can get on and vent.
And then we know that what we're saying is, is a truth. And everybody on here is 99% or 95% in agreement with what's happening. I just think that that's really help help. That's really healthy. And if they can manifest this, we also can manifest that they don't get away with this. So now that's what I do when I research and I find things out. I close my eyes and I try to manifest and pray to the universe that, please have some good people who have the power to block this. Please, please have the please, you know. So, for example, that big, beautiful bill, which is nothing but a big, horrible bill, a big, bad bill.
It looks like Thomas Massie now has the votes in the House of Representatives to block the block that bill. So, you know, it's just one day at a time. For me, it's one hour at a time, Brenda. Yeah. I don't even have the mental sanity to get through a whole day.
[04:57:35] Unknown:
Julie, in forty seven years, these people never had done something that benefits us. It's always for their
[04:57:43] Unknown:
own,
[04:57:45] Unknown:
you know, their own agenda.
[04:57:47] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. And then, you know, and then and then, you know, Brenda, I also, I, you know, I don't I'm probably the harsh I'm my own worst enemy. Like, I sometimes will just talk to myself and I'm like, how could you be so stupid? And how could how could you be so dumb that you didn't figure this out a long time ago? Like, you know, I don't know. You know, I'm my worst worst critic. I wish I I wish I would have known about this a long time ago. But then part of me says today when I see people outside happy go lucky every day, some part sometimes part of me says, I wish I didn't know any of this at all. I wish I didn't I wish I was dumb and just didn't know. And I was going through life every day, like, oh, it's a beautiful day, and our government's so great. Yeah. But I know I'm here for a reason. I know that our creator is put me in this situation, Lori.
[04:58:38] Unknown:
So I know. Oh, my god. I would sometimes I scream that I wanna wake up from this dream because people tell me what I gonna do. Hey. What are you gonna do in this holiday? And I'm like, what?
[04:58:53] Unknown:
And, you know, I'll tell you something, Brenda. The hardest part for me right now in my life is that, you know, I'm a real estate broker. So now knowing that these mortgages are fraudulent, I just don't even wanna be in this business anymore. It's like, how can you help somebody get a mortgage alone for their house when when they sign that promissory note? That's already the You're halfway in getting it through. I'm already screwing people over knowing what I know. So it's just so, I don't know, it's just so evil. And you guys have been talking about what is money and how does money come into existence and how how and it basically, like Gregory was saying, you know, in the olden days when we had gold and silver, you know, we had money, but we don't have it anymore.
Doesn't exist. And everything that is printed right now is a debt instrument, and it's an IOU, and we owe the Federal Reserve all of that money back. It's complete and utter debt. Really, they owe us. Yeah? They that money they owe us. They owe us, but they nobody believes this. When you try to tell your neighbor that a mortgage is fraud and that the government never transferred any money and they just made an accounting entry onto their ledger, they don't believe it.
[05:00:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I know. I did mortgage a few years ago, one of my jobs. And, you know, I was just couldn't believe when, you know, this buying down points to get a better interest rate. Oh my gosh. That is just totally money in the mortgage and the mortgage loan people's pockets.
[05:00:41] Unknown:
I know. But the problem is is that every mortgage is fraud because no consideration that's given. You have to have real consideration that's given, and a lot of people will tell you, well, no. The bank I see the check. I see the check at the settlement table. That check is check kiting. There's no money behind that check. They just wrote something out on a piece of paper on a, you know, cashier's check. It's all fraud. It's all fake. It would be like you and me writing a check for somebody with no money in the our in our depositor's account.
[05:01:14] Unknown:
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[05:02:51] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Guest Introduction
Streaming Platforms and Collaborations
Discussion on Freedom and Legal Research
Understanding Citizenship and Legal Status
Political Correctness and Truth Seeking
Impact of Political Changes on Public Engagement
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Political Interviews
Vaccine Controversies and Health Discussions
The Role of Personal Responsibility in Freedom
National Resources and Economic Policies
Corporatism and Global Politics
Libya and Gaddafi's Leadership
Alligator Alcatraz and Immigration Policies
Oklahoma Supreme Court and Native American Rights
Legal Jurisdiction and Tribal Sovereignty
Political Dynamics and Leadership Critiques
Trust in Political Figures and Government
Passport Applications and Legal Challenges
Trust Courses and Legal Education
Debate on Political Figures and Media Influence
Historical Context and Political Power
Military Power and Global Politics
Economic Systems and Financial Realities
Personal Reflections and Community Support
