In this episode of the Radio Ranch, the hosts delve into the intricacies of political status, focusing on the distinctions between being a U.S. citizen and a national. They explore the historical context of the 14th Amendment and its implications on citizenship, discussing how the federal government and states interact with individuals under different legal statuses. The conversation touches on the complexities of legal definitions and the importance of understanding one's rights and obligations.
The hosts also engage in a lively discussion about current events, including recent Supreme Court decisions and their impact on federal and state jurisdictions. They highlight the importance of legal awareness and the role of historical legal documents in shaping modern interpretations of citizenship and rights. The episode concludes with a call for listeners to engage with the material and consider the broader implications of legal status on personal freedoms and responsibilities.
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Well, the world's changing. We're going to see if we can add our 2¢ here. We'll take another stab at it on the Saturday edition Usually, a little bit different show. And, that is on the June 28. If I'd quit spilling my coffee here, will be better. Roger Sales, Mark's along for the ride today, and the Radio Ranch. And, I imagine we don't have too many folks tagging on us today, do we, Paul? I'll let you, sort that out.
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No. We really don't. We just have euro folk radio dot com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and Global Voice Radio Network. Links for both of those platforms as well as the free conference call link to join us live on the show is on our website, thematrixdocs.com. Thematrixdocs. You betcha. Wow. So We made it. Still.
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Yeah. Right. I I was real, real under the wire today. Excuse me. And on top of that, I spilled my coffee.
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Yeah. Okay. I was real under the wire as well. I had massive failures, Mal massive failures, and, I literally did not figure it out until four minutes before showtime.
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Oh, okay. I'm rested. I didn't wanna interrupt you. Morning, Mark. Glad to have you along all this. Good morning. Hi. It's Saturday. Good to hear. Yes. Well, we're always happy to have you. The Sabado edition. Correct. And, usually, it's a little bit different. We'll see we'll see what today brings. We've had some good ones a couple Saturdays ago. Tom came on from California. We got to go around, you know, with Tom showing him, some more of these connections, which irrefutably prove what we're doing. You know? Even though, boy, they still like to kid they just don't like being found out, do they?
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No. No. There's really nothing they can do about it. You know, like you said, unless they wanna rip off their mask and be shown as tyrants, then, you know
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Yeah. Come on. Show us how big a bully you are, you little lioness pigs. And I mentioned it occasionally go go ahead, Mark. Oh, I just I just Roger, I just keep getting amazed as
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different things pop up with, you know, involving the federal government. And I was now it's it's a little different mindset. I'm like, okay. How would that affect me if I was a national? Oh, they wouldn't have jurisdiction or, oh, they wouldn't, they wouldn't have, they wouldn't have any ruling over me. Right? Yeah. So it's just, it's so much fun to think, you know, just shift your mindset a little bit. And as we, you know, tend from time to time to get wrapped up in all the federal junk, think about, does that apply to me any longer as a national? And most of the time, it's a big fat no. Yep. And boy, it sure feels good. I just love it. It just keeps getting better and better.
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My my journey with this is so interesting because it comes in sections and I I had I had it all, but I just couldn't figure out. And I I I and looking back on it, I'm pretty sure this is the reason is because they're one of their techniques and they've got several. Okay. One of their techniques is to change those labels on the concept. And boy, when that hit me, it it just is a big teaching moment because that, I think, Mark, looking back is probably well, that the definitions too, obviously. But that's one of the main things that has tricked our community for decades because they don't know these backing legal concepts.
So whenever they put a new label on something, they just follow it as something new, and they don't realize it's what they're looking for. And right in front of their faces, just call something different. And so when I saw that passport application and it allowed me to connect those two, the warning box and the secretary of state of The United States Of America there on the first page of the, DS 11. Well, it just hit me. Wham. It's taken me a while to sort through it and come up with answers like the one I just gave you. They they they they use the same concept, and they just misidentify it. They take a word and they misstep give you the opposite definition. All these little tricks, these guys have gone to great extent to pull this off.
I mean, great extent. And they, as colonel House said to Woodrow Wilson, if one or two people find out we've got plausible deniability, well, you don't have it anymore. Okay? And they don't know what to do about it. I was thinking, and I mentioned the other day, do you remember freedom to fascism, Mark, with the
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Oh, yeah. I was there. Aaron Russo. They had a, premier in in Las Vegas, and I was there. Yeah. Do you remember part 02/2005,
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I think. Probably something like that. Is it You remember the part in the middle when he was talking to a guy named Sheldon Cohen?
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No. I don't. It's been a former
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a former IRS commissioner. Yeah. And they were talking in Yiddish. They dropped back to Yiddish. Oh, really? And Sheldon Cohen said, you can't get out of it. Wrong. Not as a US citizen. That's right. Wrong. Wrong, mister Cohen, little Zionist pigs. You slaving bastards. So and I've got you. Yeah. We've got you. Right? Pie the short hairs, you silk chicken shit bastards. So, anyway, Saturday, you're do what, Jamar? Oh, go ahead. I'm just gonna say it gives me great pleasure, to to have gotten these guys. Okay? Because really, as I've said, I I've studied history.
And these guys, particularly for many years, I don't know of any other instance where somebody has gotten them as cold as we've got them right here.
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Right. Right.
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Cole, it's it's interesting. I had a chance to talk with, a friend of mine who's going you know, is in the process of getting his national status. He had another friend who, you know, he wanted me to talk to because they were showing some interest. And I was just kinda leading them along just that short historic, layout where where prior to the civil war, there was no such thing as a US citizen. There was no such thing as a federal citizen. Nope. You were a state citizen, typically starting where where the state you were born. If you moved and domiciled in another state and made that your permanent home, you become a citizen of that state. We got we got US Supreme Court law that backs that up.
And it had to do with jurisdiction and the guy, you know he tried to sue somebody in a state that he wasn't a citizen of and it didn't. He he sued him in the wrong place and he basically was a sojourner at that point and he didn't have a home. Right. So anyway I kind of led him through that and I got up to the Civil War and the enactment of the thirteenth Amendment and the fourteenth Amendment. And then when I explained the purpose of the fourteenth Amendment, it was like, you know, it was like, oh that was for the newly freed black slaves to get citizenship. He almost finished my words and he goes, because the Southern states wouldn't give them citizenship. And I said, that's right.
And then that got morphed around until we all become US citizens now, if you're born in in one of the 50 states. And he he he caught on rather quickly. I was I was kind of surprised because it usually takes people a little bit to kind of get it. It's it's amazing. Some people get it right off like your friend here, and others,
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well, they just walk away and call you bad names. Did you see, president, president Trump on his little press conference about the Supreme Court rulings yesterday. Mark, you happen to see that clip? No. I didn't get to see that. I did hear
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about Amy Coney Barrett, slapping verbally slapping, justice Ketanji Jackson. Oh, yeah. And that was pretty interesting.
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Well, I didn't hear that. You'll have to relay that to us with the it is Well, tell us what Trump said first. Well, I'm going to. Tell us what Trump said first. To tell you. And Trump's up here going on on this ruling, and he goes, the fourteenth amendment was for children of slaves. Before he even repeated it, the fourteenth amendment was for children of slaves. Boy, you don't know how right you are.
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Oh, wow.
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Said it twice.
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Wow.
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Of course, he doesn't understand the context like we do, but, what a statement. I just about, I just about bent over backwards. Yes. Who's, who's saying Roger there?
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No. I think it was just me. I was I was chiming in with you. Well, but do have a chime in. You you you you had a premonition of it, Roger. And and has he taken the children because of all persons born?
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Well, well, you gotta understand that this is over the it wasn't over. This one wasn't about birthright citizenship. Evidently, they said in that somebody was saying this gonna be take that's gonna be taken up this fall when they reconvene. This was about the injunctions as alluding to birthright citizenship because Trump was saying that the there's 200 and some odd, maybe more, children born from this, these illegal immigrants. And those are the ones they were saying are not citizens. And the here's the big difference. I'll go over it again. And, Wong Kim Ark is the the case on it. And Wong Kim Ark's parents had moved from China to San Francisco and established themselves. I don't know about what they were doing with the residency and all that stuff back then. I don't even know if it it was a thing, but they established themselves in California in The States.
And then they had Wong Kim Ark. So they were still citizens of China, but they had established themselves in The US. These people are coming across the river and dropping the baby and saying it's a citizen of The United States. That's what they wanna stop, and that's what this addressed to my understanding. Just those children. It's not on the whole issue. It's on the children of these immigrants that were invaded as of the last few years. So, we'll see. Let's see what other big decisions did they. They hit one on the, books on, out of Maryland, Mark, with, not being able to shove, you you know, pedo pedo freako sexo books up your children's in their minds. So that got rule of the gifts, which is good.
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There were some pretty good rule Roger, that allowed that allowed parents to opt their children out from certain school instruction Right. That had to do with LGBTQ, t, x, y, z. Uh-huh. And yesterday And it looks like it was a Muslim name. It was, Mahmood
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versus Taylor. God bless him. You know? The, evidently, yesterday was the last day to release cases from this this term, so there won't be any more next week. All that have been released have been released. And, so I hope judge, justice Thomas is washing his RV this weekend and getting ready to take off on some kind of a sojourn across the country. You know, that's what he does. Yeah. Yeah. And he just likes to go out and mingle with the people. They don't even know who he is. You know? What a he is a what a great man justice Thomas is. And one of the one of the best success stories to me to come out of America, honestly, Justice Thomas.
Yeah. I'm sorry when he decides to retire. Tried to derail his confirmation
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big time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That intently.
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Oh, yeah. The and the, the the the pubic hairs and
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whatever that girl's name was. And and then and then when he left to go to another, I think, a law firm or, or he I don't remember what where he moved to, but the the lady that was accusing him of of harassing her followed him. He chose to get a position, in his office. So,
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man, I can't even think of her name anymore. I can't either. It escapes me. I can see her face. Right? There was that great documentary on him a couple of years ago, that came out that was just was just super. You know?
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Are you thinking of Anita?
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Anita Anita Hill. Bryant. Anita Hill. Hill. That's right. That's right. Yep. Thank you. Roger? Yes. This is Julie. Is this Julie? Question for anyone that might have Oh, it's Robbie. Robbie. Okay. Alright. Go ahead. Morning.
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Mark mentioned if you were born in any of the 50 states. What about us poor folks that were born in DC? Is there any anything different for us?
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Mhmm. Boy, that's actually interesting. Yeah. You
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remember, it's all about it's voluntary, one. And two, you declare your allegiance to a small s state, meaning one of the 50 states or one of the states that made up of the union, of The United States Of America. And always remember that, United States Of America, USA. You got a US Federal Government, which kind of operates outside of the law, in my opinion. And then you've got The United States Of America, which just seems to be sitting there dormant. And but, yeah, you if you're, if you were born in DC, the District Of Columbia, then you absolutely have every right to change your status.
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And this is where, okay. Let me just say this is where that statement from the, certificate of noncitizen nationality comes in, Robbie. All US citizens are US nationals. So it doesn't matter if you were born in DC the way they've had to construct this. You can volunteer to the other side. Paul, what was your comment?
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And if you're picking a state, go to a map pre Washington DC, pre District Of Columbia, and wherever you were, that's the state you were born in. Could've been Virginia. Could've been Maryland.
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You can go to Virginia and hang out with, you know, Julie and Nancy and Suzanne and all our good, good females there in Virginia. We got a contingent of them. And bore I think Bory's in Virginia too. Is he? Is he? Okay. Bory too. So no no no big change. North Carolina. Okay. Well, then North Carolina. Well, then you can do North Carolina if you want. Doesn't matter. It's your choice. Well,
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here's what I do is don't say what state that you're declaring your your, allegiance to because that could change. Right? Yeah. But you don't say in Rogers affidavit that that that you're a a national who owes allegiance to a state, basically. Yep. So Yeah. We I wouldn't I I the only time I would do that if I had a permanent or a current home permanent home in a state and I was asked about that. Mhmm. Then I just say, well, yeah, I owe my allegiance to whatever state I'm in. Mhmm. And I wouldn't say state of North Carolina. I'd just say North Carolina state. Correct.
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Robbie, we're always with that.
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Sorry. Go ahead, Lisa. No. No. No. Go ahead, Lisa.
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I always wondered with your, birth certificate having to be used there, if that wasn't kind of showing Well, it would show. Where you would be have an allegiance to, but those are states of. So Well, still that you don't have a choice in. That's right. You need a choice when you're born.
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Yeah. And everybody born in in a in a state, a US state and territory, they're gonna be a US citizen or US national. So don't forget the thirteenth amendment. You cannot be an involuntary servitude. You cannot be made a slave. And anybody that pushes back and says you can't do that, then I would throw in their face, so you mean you're violating the thirteenth amendment? Yep. And you're forcing me to be a US citizen?
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Or or they could be like Alex. One. You could be like Alex Jones as the opposition say, well, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment. How about that? How about that is a confession right right out in front of God and everybody, but nobody understands it. I understand what they were saying. Mark does. You probably do, but nobody else did. Alex sure as hell doesn't.
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No.
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He doesn't know. Too bad he didn't put InfoWars into trust from the start. I know. Oh, man. That that's a serious,
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serious oversight right there. Oversight. Yeah. I agree. I'm just like, are you kidding me? Yep. You would avoid it all. The high level thinking people you know And I think they support you.
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Evidently, they've got he's got a team in the Department of Justice that's overlooking all the crap they've done on this suit, and they're gonna start filing. Do you know what the latest move is from them? They've gone after his wife and his parents who are now, because of all this warfare, almost bankrupt in their old age.
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Oh my goodness. I these people are the slimiest son of a bitches. Well, here's the thing that people don't do, and I wish they would. If you if somebody sues you and it's it's malicious, there's there's no grounds for them suing you and and you win your case or you get it dismissed, you should immediately turn around and sue their butts for malicious prosecution. Yeah. And if these people would start countersuing for malicious prosecution, it might stop this nonsense.
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I I hope that it comes to a stop. The Texas, appeals court is about to overthrow the judgment in Texas, he has said. Cool. So, hopefully, that will happen. Nice. We've gotten off on a tangent here, not a tangent, like, a discussion of important current events. But is there anybody in the you know, these the Saturday shows were for new folks at work, really, that had questions, wanted to discuss some of this stuff and couldn't because of their obligation. So if there's any folks on the board that fit that criteria today, please come forward, and and we'll we'd love to address what you got. We've we're all here to do that. And if not, we're gonna discuss these other things that are, current, you know, important, and they are. That decision on this injunction thing is really important because it totally frees Oh, that's huge. Yeah. They totally frees him up to do everything he's been wanting to do. That's how they've been stopping him. Did you hear Pam, Bonnie? Well, you didn't see the thing yesterday.
Bondy. Bondy came up there and said, let's see if I can remember this. There were five districts that 35 of these cases came out of. Only five. Oh, wow. K? So all those are done. So that good good on the supreme court and and whatever, whether it was intentional or whatever caused Amy, Conan, Bryant to write a positive and land on the side of better than Trump. Good good on you, Amy, for once. Anyway.
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Well, what was interesting on that, Roger, real quick before you move on from that Right. Topic Yeah. Was was,
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Ketanji
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Jackson. She called their decision as as violating the constitution. Right? She said Oh my god. They should not allow the president to violate the constitution and, said that was not based on any existing legal doctrine. This is This is what, Ketanji J. Jackson said. But when you go look at Amy Coney Barrett, she said, We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of president precedent, not to mention the constitution itself. Yeah. We observe only this, justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial
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judiciary. Yes. I got that phrase. I'll tell you what's gonna be a barn burner, Sunday night with Barnes hashing all this out. It should be a barn burner. Okay? So yeah. So whether you get it recorded or you participate live, you know, listen. That's gonna be worth listening to. Tomorrow.
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Yeah. That's tomorrow. Night. Yeah. And and if you go to Rumble, you can watch it live, and they start at 6PM eastern, 5PM central. Mhmm. That's Sunday nights. Oh, in Barns? If you just go just go to Rumble, do a search for Veeva Barnes,
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and it'll pop up. Their channel will pop up. When they're live, the little icon, the little, front page thing with him and Veevan, there'll pop up. Now he Right. Is probably just about finished. I would think at this late date in June, he's about finished with his move, back home. He's moving back home to Chattanooga.
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Yeah.
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And I'm surprised at that. Well, it's very shocking to me. Yesterday, Brent brought out something I'd never heard before. That area of the South Eastern Tennessee and on up a little bit into Kentucky, They were all for the North in the Civil War. They didn't want the South to go into the Civil War. I didn't know that. Okay? Oh, no. Well, there's some really big battles in the Civil War that were fought at Chattanooga. The battle of Lookout Mountain, where you could still go up there today and, go up to the post where the soldiers were, where it was dug into the side of the mountain there at the top. And the reason is that's the highest point of land around there, and it overlooks the Tennessee River as it goes. So they couldn't nobody could bring any ships or anything when they had command to look out mountain. And, of course, then, as they got through that and and one and went south, there's about, 90 miles, if that much, down to Kennesaw Mountain, which is just right where I used to live close to. And that was the Battle of Atlanta.
On Kennesaw Mountain, you could still go up there, see the cannons and all that stuff. They got some historical buildings and memorabilia about it. And that that was the Battle of Atlanta that allowed them to go on ahead and go to the Sherman, go to the Savannah, and do all the destruction. So a lot of history there right there around that area. So Barnes has got a big deal going there in July. They're gonna have one of his big meetups for a couple of days going, and, they're gonna speak. Viva's gonna be there. There's a whole bunch of things going on. They've got scheduled. I've heard him mentioned. So, anyway, if you're in that area, you could still, sign up to participate in some of those shindigs. Yep. I need to get ahold of my friend Harvey. I don't know if he would or not, but, boy, he would enjoy all those people. He's right in right in their, right in their pocket, ideologically.
So was there anybody in the audience that had something they wanted to discuss today? Or do you want Mark and I and the group, and we'll we'll every now and then, we'll let Paul in, but to discuss things? Yeah. Okay, Paul. We have just one of those every now and then.
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I I have to switch servers. Give me one second. Oh. And That sounds painful. Oh, oh, yeah. Kind of. Alright. FCC should be reconnected through a different server now. Can you guys hear us in FCC?
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I hear you. FCC, do you hear us?
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K. Alright. And now give me one second. I hear you. Thank you for joining us for the radio range with Roger Sales. Press 6 to mute or unmute. And if your line is locked, dial 941 to raise your hand. Welcome.
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There are 47 participants in the conference.
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Hi, y'all. Happy Saturday. Thanks for being with us. Roger? There we go. Yes, sir. Okay. Good. Now we got some communication going. We're all Was that Rick? Who was that?
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Yeah. Brent's right. There were pockets of, union sympathizers all over the South. Do you know who the personal guard for Sherman was as he marched to the sea?
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I do not.
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The first Alabama cavalry unit.
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Wow. Is that right? And, of course, as as much as I hate to admit it, you you know you know where Sherman was before they got him back in the army. Right, Rick?
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He was the first chancellor of LSU. Drafted him right back in there, and he did. Now there's a, there's a town down there. I mentioned it. I was it? It's not Monroe. It's on the way to Savannah. I mean, not Savannah, to Augusta. They're on 20, and it was his roommate was from it's not Monroe. Madison? Madisonville, I believe. Madison.
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Madison. Madison.
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Madison, Georgia. Sherman's roommate at West Point was from Madison, Georgia. And when he was going to Savannah, he totally bypassed Madison. He wouldn't let his soldiers ravage it. So it's right off of the interstate there. And you can go see all the old houses antebellum houses and all that were still left. Horrible time in our history. Just horrible. But I didn't know that, Rick, until, Brent said that yesterday. I've never heard that before. I was kinda surprised. And it was all that chat Chattanooga to Knoxville and Sevierville and all through the Appalachians there, I guess, is that area and on up into Kentucky from what he said.
Okay. There's 47 folks in the audience. I guess we've reconnected with you. Maybe, Paul, whatever Paul did. Do are any of you new with questions or you have questions or comments or anything? Because the Saturday show really is for you. But we can get on here and talk about all this other stuff, and we like doing it, but we don't want to do it at the forsake of ignoring you. K? So if you've made a special time to be with us today and you've got some of those, please come forward with them. Roger. There's one. I don't yes, sir. Hey, Larry. Good morning. Are you working today? Good morning.
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Yep. I'm in my truck making deliveries. Wow. Hardworking
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guy, Larry. Alright.
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I got sixty hours in right now, and I got a few more hours to go. Okay. You don't get taxed on your extra hours anymore.
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Oh, you don't get taxed on it anyway? Yeah.
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I don't get taxed anyway. Yeah. Hey. I was Yes, sir. I was relistening to the to the show yesterday. Yeah. I mean, that thing was packed with a lot of stuff, and I've been taking notes. And one of the things that Brent said, was equity acts against persons and law acts against things. And I was wondering if you agree with that and if you would elaborate
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I I can. Give some examples, Roger. Have you ever heard that before? I I I I can't. Maybe Mark can. Did you and Mark probably wouldn't listen yesterday. He did make that statement. I caught it too. Actually, it registered with me, Larry. Said equity is against persons and common law, I guess, is against things. Do you have any comment on that?
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No. I don't don't quite understand what he was saying there.
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And he specifically said common laws against things. Well, I I the first the one I remember is that, equity is against persons. I don't remember the rest of the phrase. I think well, what do you wanna elaborate a little more and clear up my jaded memory here, Larry, please?
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Well, he he didn't use common law. He just said law.
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Okay. Well, my dad was against things. Alright. I'm probably right. So, anyway, that was the statement yesterday. I thought it was interesting too. We might could, further query mister, mister common law Winters next Friday. But, yeah, I'm gonna bring it up. It was a good along with a couple of other questions. Yeah. Well, you've always got questions for Brent. And he likes it because he comments on how much he likes it. So, yeah, he'll be back next Friday. We can get him to elaborate on that. I did catch it also.
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Anything else? Sorry? I don't that doesn't make sense to me because typically when we think of equity, it does involve property. So I don't I don't understand his statement. I I'd I'd love to hear him, you know, be drawn out of that and do
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do an explanation. Alright. Well, maybe next Friday, if we can remember, we'll get that done.
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So I don't know if he's talking about equity law or equity jurisdiction.
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I I don't know. I don't either. And I've never studied those fine points on that kind of stuff, Larry. So I'm sorry to tell you I have a little bit of ignorance in this spot right here.
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Yeah. Well, you know, I'm a
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A little functional illiteracy
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is probably a better way to You know how I know I'm pretty smart about this kind of stuff? Because everybody says I'm full of it.
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I've had I've I've I've had people say that about me and call me really many, many ugly names. I've been called many ugly names. I bet. So, you know Hey, Roger. It's William. I guess, sir. Hey, William. Hey, man. All good. Here we go. We got another session here. Hey, William. How are you doing?
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I'm good. How are you? Good. You guys were talking earlier about the smallest state and the allegiance, and the nationality, being a a national. I I did a little bit of a dive on that, a couple months ago because, you know, the the code says it's a permanent allegiance to a small estate. And a few I like that. A few, yeah, a few, law websites for us that they do, I guess, like, citizenship law and and and help people get citizenship and and all that. But, a few of the websites that I'd come across said that nationality was innate, and it was permanent.
So, if you were born in Saudi Arabia,
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you were Saudi nationality for your entire life. That that that didn't change. Your citizenship could change, but your nationality couldn't. Well, you can give away let me ask you a question. And the other way to get out of this is to go through the, the state department and literally change passports with countries. And it's a very formal process. Cost you about 4 or $5,000. Take you about six months now to get through it, and you have to have the other country's passport before you start the process or at the end of the process. Whatever. You gotta have the other country's passport, and then they take yours and you're not a citizen of The United States or a national anymore. You're a whatever that country is. So that I don't believe they're totally correct on that, whoever your base sites are, if they don't understand that. And I, I can't the word escape. I think I think,
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you know, this this this one place where they say that all US citizens or US nationals flies in the face of that because, you know and I think they had to do that to make this scam work. They did. Because because, you know, you're if you're born somewhere in the territorial jurisdiction of a country, then then that's your nationality, and that's what it is for life. And, I mean, you can change citizenship, but you can't you you'll always be a national. I'll always be a, you know, USA national.
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Well, let let's look at under underneath your that's there. It's covered up and it's hidden. You have to access it in a specific way. Why did they do that? See, there's the problem they had is what, if you look at the totality of the scheme, the most important part is you answering those two questions. Yes. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Notice they never say resident of any state. They just say resident. Right. Okay? And so, that is where they get your agreement to that you're okay with the fact they put you into this voluntary servitude thing at birth without your knowledge as a surety for this debt in the bond market.
That and that's why they had to do all this shenanigans to collapse and put both, overcome Plessy v Ferguson where both the statuses were prominent, Jim Crow being an example for decades, and reduce them and down to they got Brown versus Board of Education. Now I was listening to something yesterday, and Brown v Board came up, and I forget the interview. But they said, well, that's when the whole civil rights, thing started was with Brown v Board. So see, it was a really pivotal case for them to do. They collapsed Plessy down to just citizen of The United States. That's reflected, I believe, in that certificate of noncitizen nationality where it says they're both the same.
K? Alright. That's a reflection of that. But then they only ask you one side of the question. They ask you a leading question. Are you a citizen of United States? They don't say or national. To me, that's the first layer of the fraud.
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What I would like to see is if if somebody that was that had expatriated, basically, you know, sue the state department, and it says right there that a national is per nationality is permanent. Yeah. And they only issue passports to nationals and citizens. So Right. You know, why could why couldn't you sue and say what it says right here, my nationality is permanent. I was born in the territorial bound piece of The United States.
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You've got to issue me a passport. Well, what about if okay. What about if you didn't know about your nationality? You were still a citizen of United States like one of our listeners that went over and, what is that word? When you change passports, I'm I'm I'm blanking on it. I thought that explains. Can somebody help me here? When you change country
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Expatriation?
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Expatriation. Thank you, Lisa. When you expatriate, we had a listener call in one day that had done that with Switzerland. Married a Swiss gal. His daughter was a citizen of The United States. She lived over there, and he literally had gone through the expatriation process. And then he found us. And the problem he had was it was during COVID, and his mother was still living. And he wanted to go visit her, and he couldn't get back into The US. If he'd kept the US citizen, he could have. But because he's a patriot and he's a Switzerland citizen, now he had to have the jab to get back in The US. And he went to the state department and tried to argue with him. I don't know whatever came out of it. I don't know that he came back and told us. But, that would be a good grounds to approach that on right there. But you would have had to but but hold on. You would have had to have done the change and had your US nationality so that you could claim it. If you haven't gone through the status change, you wouldn't be able to claim it because you never did before.
And and then, then you're, and if you had done that and switched over to a national, you'd never given that up. Alright. Hold on just a second. Let's get with my I wanna make sure you understand all that.
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Yeah. That makes sense. I think it would be if somebody if somebody would hold the feet, you know, their feet to the fire and say, it says permanent right here. What you why can't you issue me a passport that But but
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she didn't come I see what you're you're saying. My question is, you can't claim that unless you've claimed it already. So if you haven't claimed it, you don't have access to it. It's just like the guys with Jones saying, we own your name. And he goes, no. That's involuntary servitude. And thirteenth amendment.
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The nationality access that this US citizens are US nationals. Well, I know. But you've got
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Michael. But you can't well, you can't just pop up and say I'm a national. You gotta file something with the secretary of state to officially get that title.
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Okay.
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Okay? I see that. So you can't that's why nobody in our patriot community has ever, to my knowledge, I'll ask Mark, nobody has ever, to my knowledge, been successful at claiming jurisdiction at the district court level or the state level and getting it recognized.
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I have I have Roger. Always had issue. Sorry. I've I've always had issue with that all US citizens are US nationals. Because my understanding in their definitions is a US national is really the Samoans.
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Well, we're not all obviously, we're not all American Samoans. They're not even US citizens. They gotta naturalize to be US citizens.
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I know. That's where that statement is so misleading.
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Because they combined. That's because they crushed Plessy versus Ferguson down into Brown versus Board of Education. You'll hear these, all these senators or some of these congressmen, they go, oh, and Brown versus Board of Education overturned the evil Plessy. Well, Plessy wasn't evil. It was just a statement of political statuses. So, yeah, there's a lot. Yeah. Alright. Okay. Mirca. Mirca.
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Just just to make a distinction, we are putting in our affidavit to remove ourselves from the United States corporation. We are United States Of America. And on the passport, if you look on the, the message from the secretary of state where, it tells them not to hinder our traveling. It has citizen slash national. It doesn't say US on it. It says citizen slash national. So we are the America United States Of America national, not The US national because United US is United States corporation. So we need to remember that.
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And that's that that's where our power is. Well, we're gonna work. In Girat and out girat or something like that. What I'm doing. That's the penalty of perjury. It's called a girat, and you got that. Hold on, Dave. Got it in title twenty eight seventeen forty six, I believe, is the section. It's right there plain as day. And the first time they use that language that I ever saw and have still ever seen is in the slaughterhouse cases. And they're talking to the white French butchers. He said, you're complaining.
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Interesting.
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Yeah. But they come and use that within and without language, and now they carry it over, and it's in The United States code. Now what, Michael?
[00:44:00] Unknown:
No. This is William. I was just saying it was, yeah, it was interesting, like, on pilot certificates, or pilot licenses. We can you don't have to be a US citizen to get a US pilot license. And so it asks you in the application what your nationality is, and your nationality is printed on your pilot certificate US pilot certificate. So there could be a Chinese national with a US pilot certificate, you know, under the agreement under the ICAO to operate in China with a US pilot certificate as a Chinese national. Uh-huh. Because a lot of them will come here a lot of them will come here to train because they don't have, you know, infrastructure for general aviation in China and these communist countries. So they'll come to The United States on an educational visa and get their pilot certificate, from The United States as a foreign national, and it prints that on your pilot certificate. What what I'm interested to to know is if somebody I mean, it asks you your nationality. It doesn't ask you your citizenship.
So if somebody, you know, had had changed to a US citizen from a Chinese citizen, let's say, they had they had changed their citizenship, but their nationality would still be Chinese on that question, that it seems like they would need to answer Chinese, not United States.
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Well, I would like to know if when they say a national and and they do, like, on the Social Security of which country, do they have USA listed in that list? I think it is U yes. USA. Because that's what they print on the college certificate of USA. There it is right there. You're not a citizen of The United States. It's USA. You're a national. And they put that down there under, are you a national? Which country? And there's The USA as an option. It tells you right there. Yep.
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Yep. It prints it on the card, and then, you know, all all US citizens are nationals, so your nationality as a US citizen is USA.
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That's the way I understand. And and the only way it's really intricate right here in this area because this is at the final stage of their long plan takeover. They've got to go over and what's the most important thing they've got to do at that point is a, set up the IRS, which they did in '51. '54, we get brought Brown versus Board that overturned Plessy. And then again, sixty days after Brown, the 1954 revenue code pops into place. So they had to get that done so they could ask you that leading question, are you a citizen of The United States? And there's the fraud because it's lack of full disclosure. Because the reality is the question should be, are you a citizen of The United States or national?
And they leave out our national because it's a leading question, and it's fraud. It's another reason they have to, recognize this, Michael, because they've been caught in fraud. And if you peel that layer off, there's about 15 other layers underneath
[00:47:09] Unknown:
Right. A fraud a fraud. I'll I'll yield the floor. I just wanted to bring that up. Well,
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okay. Well, and I think that it you couldn't apply that. It here's the here's the dilemma. You could apply that if you had officially gone and become a national. But, otherwise, you've always volunteered that you're a citizen of The United States, so you can't serve two masters. You can't be both. You gotta be one. And the where their lick is is everything they do is under presumption law because they've asked you those questions your whole life and you always answered yes, telling them you give them your permission to govern you in that way, and that's what you are. And so, you've gotta overcome that presumption law or else they're gonna roll it forward. And the only way to do that is to submit some sort of paperwork to the secretary of state, either stating what you are or stating what you're not.
In other words, you could and we used to do this. We used to say, well, I'm not related to black slaves who who received federal citizenship after the civil war. Well, that's correct, but it's, oh, I don't even know where I was going. Anyway, it's a, it's a sticky little wicket right there, and, boy, it took me a long time to figure it out. And I don't know that I did until I saw that certificate of noncitizen nationality and that statement. That you can unravel it from that. But, boy, up to that point, it's not clear at all. Okay? So but that's a That's what they were saying was
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what you're saying is it's it's easier to prove they can't prove a they can prove a positive or disprove a positive. So you say,
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I'm not this. Right. It's easier than saying I am this. You know? What it does is if you suppose it as a negative, you put them in a unique position because it's virtually impossible to disprove a negative. Now that's the way we used to do this. And then I I figured, well, you know, it's so succinct. And then we saw that one statement out of that same document down at the bottom, with their disclaimer. I, Michael from Minnesota, do solemnly swear, I'm a national and not a citizen in The United States. So you can do it that simple, and that's when we started just switching to a affirmative.
The the problem with some of our people, Michael, is they wanna put all this stuff in their paperwork. I'm a this. I'm a pro pay and a a pro per and all this kind of stuff. The more statements you make affirmative, the more chance you give them to contest you. So that's the
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I'm a living man on the way. Please, please.
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Anna, go home. Go home. It's good. It's about summer in Alaska. Let's go home, Anna. Oh, okay. And straw man's starting to dance a jig back here. He's he's over there twitching, isn't he?
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Okay. Who's wanting to say about ready to whip out his gold fringe flag instead. Oh, god. Oh, god. We're
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doomed.
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Okay. Who was trying to say anything wrong? Know, all US citizens are dead. Right? That's right. Oh,
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yeah. Yeah. Go through the graveyard. It's all capital letters. Was that Samuel trying to say something? Who was that a minute ago? No. It was Dave. Dave. That's right. Five minutes ago. Hey, Dave. Circle back to me when you're down with Dave. Alright. Good morning. Yes, sir.
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So when you're when we refer to America or Americans, The U United States is an adjective. When we refer to US citizens, it's the 10 mile squared. And, if I remember correctly, I could be wrong. It's been a while since I, you know, heard it bantered about, but I thought American Samoans were noncitizen American nationals.
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Well, you could pay you could kind of They're American Samoans. Right? Well, they It's all playing words and it's Yeah. They they well, they can't be American nationals because they're not eligible to be citizens of The United States. They're just noncitizen
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nationals. I thought they were hiding the national behind Well, they are. They are. Citizen American national as
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the
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Samoan. Well, they are, but they're not the same. American Samoa and American nationals are not the same. We're both Oh, okay. One.
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But we're not noncitizen. They they don't consider us nationals as noncitizen. That's why they hide that in that. I thought that's what was discussed Well you know, when we were bringing all that up that, you know, they call American Samoans for a reason, and they call them noncitizen American nationals for a reason to hide the national
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behind it. But they don't call them that. They don't call them noncitizen American nationals. They call them noncitizen nationals. I could've swore it was American, but I've never seen that. You're not American national is us.
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They're US national.
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Very Well, they may be, and that that may they may assign that to us too. I don't know. It's a complex little area, and I don't know what they did exactly, but I know how to get out of it. And I know they recognize it. So
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A nanny poo poo.
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Part who what was coo coo? Sorry. I said, so nanny, nanny, poo poo. Oh, yeah. Well, they just We know how to get out. Area. So Okay. So, you know, you wanna go back and hash this out. We did about four or five shows contentious. Some of them were with Abram on this.
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Is a US national again. Is is a US
[00:53:05] Unknown:
thank you. Thank you, Mark. Is is a US national American Samoa? Are are we US nationals? And they're using that internally from the federal government to to identify us. And I bet if you put that down on your affidavit, it'd work. Okay. I'm so much wanting to act up here. But if just to be safe and sound and settle the argument, just use national. You know, I go back to the to the approach on this is the oath on the passport. I I do solemnly swear and dependently purgatory. I'm a citizen of The United States or a noncitizen national.
Okay. Well, there's two of the three. You've got the national, noncitizen national, and citizen of The United States. There's two of them in the oath. Which one did they hide the national behind? Non citizen national or US citizen? Well, if they say that they're both, then they hid it behind the US citizen, didn't they? Yeah. K. So that's the kind of the way I came to look at this. It doesn't make any difference. Just use national when you submit your paperwork if you're new. And this is a a really ambiguous little area right here, that US citizen person. Who is it? K?
Don't know, but use national, and you'll be safe no matter what the, what the, question is. Alright? Roger. Yes. There's Larry again. Yes, sir.
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Yeah. If if what you are teaching wasn't true, they wouldn't be issuing issuing a passport to you because, obviously, we have to include a copy of our affidavit. And if that was not true, they would not issue you a passport. Right. And I think there's a couple of students once in a while that get challenged, and then if they respond properly, like I helped the student with, they, they ended up sending the passport.
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They always. We've never had one of my except for Pageant's mother. And she couldn't contest it because she didn't keep a copy of what she included. You can't go back and challenge it if you don't have a copy of what you sent them. So that's the only case I know about where someone didn't get their documents they paid for. They, you know and what they're doing this is the question I have over that, Larry. What they're doing is just to test you and see how much you know. Like that guy that called Jerry from the passport department said, man, you really know your stuff. They're trying to see how much you know. And my question is, what about David Strait and Anavon Wright students that get those letters? How do they do?
Was somebody got a cash register there or something they're messing with? About empty box?
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Somebody's moving furniture.
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Sounds like it. Just remember, these microphones are very, very sensitive, and there's paperwork to it sounds like the start of money by Pink Floyd.
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That was Gary. I muted him. So Okay. Alright, Gary. You're muted. Was that our our Gary in Montana?
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Yes, sir. Alright. Big gear. Alright. How's him getting better, I trust him and Gina? Well, Gina wasn't sick. She was taking care of him. Okay. Where else? Somebody got some other observations or questions or comments on that. We're supposed to double back to Mark.
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I I gotta double back to Mark. I wanted to circle back real quickly and just kinda, tie or dovetail into what you were saying about a negative, proving a negative. Just proving a negative. Clearly remember this. It is a maxim of law that you cannot prove a negative. If I say I'm not something, I can't quote prove that. Now, it's a little different when we're talking about status or national nationality. But if I say I'm not a US citizen, it's the burden's on somebody else to prove that I am. And your affidavit really trumps all of that because none of them, none of the government officials, there's not a single person in the in the federal government or or anywhere in the states that can override your affidavit.
But let me go back and make it a little bit simpler. It's usually when we get into evidence in a court environment. If I say I don't have any grapes in my refrigerator, I can't prove to you that I don't have any grapes. You got to prove that I do. And so you're going to have to go over open up the refrigerator door and go there's the grapes. But it's a maximum of law that you cannot prove a negative. Let me give you a better example. If I said I never received a document that you think I have or or I'm not in receipt of any law that says I have to do this or it's against the law to do that.
Well guess what? The burden shifts to the opposing party to prove that I'm wrong. And this is why one of my early mentors Pat Patton, he said, you know, he got tired of writing books and sending them in and trying to educate the opposing party on why he's doing what he's doing. He goes, I just start asking questions now. You know, Hey, I'm not in receipt of any law that says I got to do this, you provide it. Well now he shifted the whole burden over to the other side and it reduces work dramatically. His, again, his statement was, I'm tired of showing them how smart I am. I wanna see how smart they are. And I tell you that that left a lasting impression on me. Twenty five years later, I'm quoting Pat Patton. So Yep.
You cannot prove a negative.
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So High yield. That's good. Thank you, Mark. Glad that I I'm just always really tickled to death to to have you along, Mark, because of your background, what you bring to the table. A little more practical application than me. I was, I went through paralegal school and stuff, but I I'll get you in just a second. But I never. It sounds like you got the daily wire in the background.
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No. That's the ticker tape on the stock market.
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Okay. Well, the stock market closed on Saturday, but they may have had to open the day. I don't know. Okay. I mean, I forgot what I was gonna say. Julie, oh, I I remembered it, but I'll try and get it later. Go ahead, Julie.
[01:00:12] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to ask, how does the IRS deceptively refer to nationals as nonresident aliens? Like, how does that apply?
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I'll tell you how it applies. It applies if you go back to Vatel's Law of Nations. You know about Vatel's Law of Nations, Julie?
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Yep.
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Okay. Pretty important document. The the the way all this started for the audience who may not know this, there was an agreement called the West the Treaty of Westfall. They refer to it as the Westphalian agreement. It was in the sixteen hundreds, about sixteen forty ish, I think. And that was when before that, like in Europe, which was the main part of the world back there, it was all big fiefdoms and and and feudalism on the land and the and the king of the country or whatever, and all the nobles beneath them owned the land in a feudal type fashion. Well, they formed all that into countries.
So it was the Westphalian agreement that started everybody being a country. And then if that was gonna be the case, they needed laws that all of them agreed to that they would follow, and that was Vatel's law of nations. And it was written about 1750, so about a hundred years later. And and when I first started this, one of the listeners, Julie, sent me the pages of Vatel on residency. Mark, have you ever looked at that, at Vatel's pages, two or three pages on residency?
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I don't think I have.
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Guess what he calls residents? Guess what he calls residents?
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I have no idea.
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Resident aliens. So if somebody were to ask you, Julie, are you a resident alien? What would you think? No. Because I'm a national resident alien. No. No. Not now. Back back when, no, not now. Back when you were functionally illiterate. If they were to ask you, are you a resident alien? I would have said yes. I would have probably said yes. But, yes, doesn't that term identify the way it's being used? You're a resident alien or you're residing here, but the alien means those are the laws you're living under. So Vatel is very accurate. See?
And and I think and I've stated it before. If you could go back etymologically, you could go back and do that study on the word and find out where they dropped alien. I think you'll find the origins of this plan because that's a key word in this whole thing is resident. Patel always called them resident aliens. So you're a nonresident alien. Does that make sense to you?
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Yep. Thank you. Okay. You know, I I think it's just my relationship to the federal government as a national. You know, I'm foreign to them. I don't owe them allegiance. I'm not a resident of the federal government or or the District Of Columbia. I don't owe them allegiance, so I'm an I'm a nonresident alien in relationship to the US federal government.
[01:03:30] Unknown:
Right. But if they would ask you that your whole life, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident alien? See, it's that alien word that throws people. That's why they had to get rid of it. So Yeah. It because it identifies the relationship. So now they ask you, are you a resident? What they're really asking you if you're new notice, as I said a minute ago, they never identify a state. Are you a resident of Minnesota or Washington or what? They never do that. They just say, are you a resident? Well, that tells you, when you think about it, there's a, there there's there's something gone wrong, gone south there. Okay?
Resident of what? Well, all they're saying is they're confirming, are you under the laws of Washington, DC? We touched on it, I think, yesterday or day before. And this, Mark, you know title 26 was never voted on by the senate or signed by the president. Right?
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Correct. That's correct.
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Okay. So what happened? Well, they bankrupted the federal government in the bond market, and they only put the federal government on in the condition. So it wasn't it was the con there was the the federal government didn't have a lot of control over states. They still say they're all they're autonomous to a large degree, and this is this bankruptcy thing that got them into that position as subdivisions of the federal government. But what they're really asking you so they run title 26 in. That's IRS, in case you don't know. They run title 26 in, and they only vote on it in the house. And then they end ends up in The United States code. Well, how did that happen?
It happened because it's just strictly the federal government. And they bankrupted the federal government. They brought in this agreement of the taxation system as you to help to pay the bankruptcy under this whole scheme, and they put it right in there, slipped it right in the code. You'll go find if you look at the front of the code, the 50 codes, there's a list of all the titles, and they'll have whether they're positive or nonpositive law. Title 26 is nonpositive law. It was never passed by both houses. It was never signed by the president. It only applies to Washington DC and its citizens.
That's why they ask you the two questions. Get your agreement that that code applies to you as a citizen of The United States or a citizen of the federal government in DC. That's the resident question tying you back to that. See how it's set up? Did I explain that well? Yep. Yep. So you look at all these little pieces separate, and you go, holy smokes. Well, this is exactly what they did. Yeah. And this is how they did it. Yeah, Samuel. Samuel, wasn't that you? This is Greg. Oh, hey, Gregory. I'm sorry. It's not unlike Samuel. Okay. Hey, Gregory.
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Well, he's not too far from me. Okay. Hey. It's it's good to hear everybody still breathing on the line. This is good news. But my question is, how can you have allegiance to any state or fictitious entity if your allegiance my allegiance is to the creator of all this magnanimous You you have your allegiance to the myself.
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Has all, representatives and stuff, so it's not totally illusionary. But you get your god given rights through that entity. That's why the important thing here, Gregory, is when you like, who's are you fixing breakfast now? Paul, could you find where that noise is coming from, please?
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It totally In fact, there's a free breakfast right up the road from me at at The Grange. They have it once a month, and it's real good food that they prepare. And you just go in there and and I mean, there's a lot of good stuff, but
[01:08:03] Unknown:
But, no, I'm not doing anything like that. Alright. Well, I'm trying to get back to your question here. So you're giving permanent allegiance, and, of course, I think you know where that comes from, the feudal system. Allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. Right, Gregory? That's the formula. It's ancient. It's in Supreme Court cases that Mark founded, Happersat v somebody. Okay? This is ancient. It's recognized as at least a thousand years old, probably older, 1,500 or more. Allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. Previous to this, when you file your paperwork, you were giving allegiance, unbeknownst to you, to the federal government.
Because the federal government, when you said you're a citizen of theirs, then they automatically owe you protection. So you automatically owe them allegiance. Well, that's changing when you file the paperwork here. You file a paperwork and say you're a national, basically, an all state citizen. Well, now your allegiance is not to the federal government anymore. It's switched over here to the state, and therefore, the formula changes. And the federal government doesn't owe you protection anymore. The state does. See, this is our teeth right here. It's that switch and that formula and that switch and those obligations.
Because now you're out front pledging your permanent allegiance to a small estate with this affidavit. Now they automatically owe you protection. And it's not anything they can choose to do, And it's not anything that that that there's any question. They've got to give you the protection. It's in this formula. It's automatic. It's unbending.
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So there's our team. But but if they don't
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Well, hold it. Let's get into protection. What's protection? Protection from what? Well, like, if, you're in California, Gregory, what if the people from Nevada are coming over to invade California? Well, they're supposed to have the militia called up to stop that. Okay? That's the protection they're supposed to give you. They're also supposed to give you the protection of things like traffic laws that are dictated from the fed and in the state. And if they pull you over, those laws don't apply to you anymore. And so, they've gotta give you that protection, but we don't get see them doing that, do we?
See, this is our teeth. Well, I'm go back hold on. You could go back and take them to court on negligence and and and, dereliction of duty because they've got an automatic duty to protect you from these things. And it's something that we just realized recently, year, year and a half ago, And we'd like to formulate and put into some kind of, notice type, paperwork because they need to know this. These people that are attorney generals, they don't know this stuff. They never learned it in law school. But that's what really is going on there. And that's you get your God given rights through your state because they don't give you the civil rights, the federal government under that status.
So the minute you change Gotcha. You've got access I'll get you a second, Lisa. You've got access to those god given rights. Lisa.
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And I'm just gonna I I just wanna say, I don't like how you worded that. That's all of I I don't get my god given rights from the state. I'm supposed to have protection
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of my god given rights from That's what that's another type of protection they're supposed to give you for those rights.
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It's just we're born with those god given rights. They're given by god. Well, you're not born with them. Obligated to protect them. Under this scheme,
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you're not born with them. You're born until your feet get out of your mother's birth canal, and then this is slapped on you. So you don't have you're a you're a national as long as you're not born. Yeah. Do you understand what I'm saying? Oh, hey, Gary. Do you understand what I'm saying, Lisa? Until your feet when your feet come out of mama, unless you're a breech birth, when your feet come out, you're automatically stuck in this scheme they've got you in. Esau Edom has already thrown that blanket over you. Beautiful. When your feet weren't out there. Yeah. Kinda. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Gary. Hey, buddy. Are you cooking at the restaurant or what?
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No. We the restaurant's closed. Okay. I'm back to doing my own construction thing. Okay. But, one point everybody seems to be missing, and that is you are considered alien to the state government because you are a resident of Washington DC. That has been ruled on by the Supreme Court. So, therefore, the states utilize the fact that you are alien to the states to tax you and everything else they do because you are not a resident of the state as a US citizen. You are a resident of Washington, DC. You must keep that paradigm in your mind.
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Well, remember Comment. The fourteenth amendment at the end says this, you're a citizen of The United States and the state wherein you reside.
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And the state US citizens reside in Correct. Is the Washington DC, period. The Supreme Court has ruled that. Okay. Well, I think that's to you.
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And, Gary, the code is 8USC11O13.
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We are It's right there. You're correct. It's right there in the code.
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Yep. Hidden very skillfully. Now alright. Alright. Uh-oh. Who's who's trying to say something right there?
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It's me again, Gregory. Yeah. Okay, Gregory. The way the state is protecting its citizens is deplorable. It goes beyond saying, why would I want protection from morons like Gavin Newsom and all those gruesome critters that, are running this Yeah. Fiasco, this fiction, this fraud. I I I just give my allegiance to my creator and screw all that other minutiae.
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All we're doing is a tech point. Well, what we're going over is technicalities and the way things are, they are. And if you wanna approach it like Gregory just said, you go do that. I don't care. I'm just telling you the technicalities of how this works. Capisce?
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Roger?
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There's Larry. Yes, sir. Capisce, and thanks to you, you've really helped open my eyes and and thank you all and over.
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Okay, Gregory. Well, you're welcome. Benada. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. Garrett, Newsom is supposed to be protecting, the students' rights. Sure. But he's not doing that. There's a dereliction of duty right there going on because there is there is an, there is a an invasion occurring in California, and he's not doing anything about it. That's why Trump had to intercede. Alright. Another thing is, I asked Sprint one day
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It's not occurring. It's not occurring. It has occurred. There are no more you know, there was last month in May, there was no border crossings. None. Zero. Zilch. Zippo. Go ahead.
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Yeah. On another note, they're they're holding up, the Mexican flags, all all of these rioters. They're not even protesters. They're I've been watching this guy named John Hicks, and he drives around on an ebike, and he goes and follows the police down there in Los Angeles. And he gets right into the middle of all the action with with, you know, reporting that's on the scene. And, these protesters, which are really rioters, they're they are destroying the town of Los Angeles, like certain sections, like Little Tokyo, for example, is all boarded up and destroyed with graffiti and damage and looting.
And, they they're not even protesting over at the federal building. They're just rampaging through the city, destroying it, and all of this is documented. But, anyway, I asked Brent the one day, what do we I read him the definition that that a, a national owes permanent allegiance to a smallest state, and I asked him what that allegiance is to or what does that mean in his mind. And he said that your allegiance is to the land, and that stuck with me, and I agree with that. True. I agree with that too. Yeah. And then another thing is a lot of students get hung up on permanence, like you owe permanent allegiance to a state. Permanence is only as long as you decide it to be.
If you're permanently domiciled somewhere and then all of a sudden you decide to move, well, really, permanence is only temporary. So it's kind of like a a technicality.
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I yield. You know, it's like a friend of mine said one time. All relationships are are temporary. Think about that. Okay. Well, that's probably true. I agree with that. And I think that's a good answer to Gregory's questions. Your allegiance is to the land. Once again, back to the land, and that's the state and its boundaries, etcetera, etcetera. Now California does at least give mouth service, lip service, because the attorney general, when you put them on notice, tells you that they pay attention or aware of their private citizens. What what's the exact verbiage of that, Merica? Something something are private citizens. We recognize our private citizens, etcetera.
So at least verbally, they say individual. Yeah. Private do what now? Give us the quote.
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It's the private individual. I have to go pull it up, and I can read it. Okay. I'll I'll come back right now. I thought it said private citizens, but private individuals. So they do recognize it, Gregory.
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May not. But, you know, Gavin's running for president, so everything may get thrown out the window.
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Hey, Roger. Yes. There's someone. Yes. Hear me? Yes. I hear you. Who is it? Hi. Hi, Roger. This is Ivana from Texas.
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Oh, hey.
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I have some I I have a couple of comments to make. So just, you know, about national US nationals versus nationals. The way kind of my mind works is I try to simplify things, and I don't see any, meaningful purpose to the word US nationals other than just it's there to just occupy space and confuse people. I agree with that. So yeah. And and so one clear place where I see, you know, just, things very clearly is where all the federal government gives Social Security number. Right? Go look up, congress.cuff and see who's eligible to receive Social Security number. Yes. And it'd be US citizen and nationals,
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period. It doesn't have US nationals. There
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is no mention of US national anywhere. So That's interesting. Yeah. So it's a US citizens and nationals, period. So everything else is a confusion.
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And that is a really confusing little thing out of this whole thing, and I've dealt with it for many years. That little little area we're talking about here is extremely confusing. Mhmm. And I don't know exactly what they're trying to get across. But without all of the discussion and everything else, unless you just really have a driving desire to find out what that is, let me just tell people to use national. That just settles the argument right there, period. But it is interesting, isn't it? Yeah.
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It's very interesting. And if, I wanna I wanna I wanna make a point here. You you described what they're using US National for and how they're covering nationality earlier. And and so as far as I have heard you, the first time that you actually made a reference to that sort of explanation was when you had that argument with, Laurel several sessions long with Abrams. And that's how it ended. To me, the benefit of all of that argument, it all led to that moment where you provided a mental clarity by using, this type of explanation by saying, who do you which one do you think they're using to cover with?
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That's the that's the question. That's the question right there, isn't it? That's the question. Yeah.
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And and when when you said that and it was like a veil was revealed, the veil was removed to my face. It's all they were to see. And I I I I I thank you for that. That Yeah. That was I it was a hard, hard, hard, hard, hard session.
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But at the end of it and that was what came out of it. And and, you know, with the exception of one time, we haven't seen Abraham since. Now he may be lurking out there, but that got him all bent out of shape. And he accused me in an email and not teaching the truth and all this stuff. Folks, I I teach you as best as I understand it. K? And and and so you give us suggestions and we all learn together and they're not even mine. They're together. Yeah. But you can't No. He throw the baby out with the bath bathwater, Abram. Sorry.
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No. He he came he came, he talked to us since he listened to you. He he listens to you, and he says he's in the background. And I really appreciated his questioning. And and I just wanna, I want if he's listening, I wanna thank him for that for that opportunity. He was it is through those,
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hard struggles that some of us actively get to see. And and what do you mean? That we need to discuss together. And what do you mean? What's the takeaway? Yeah. What's the real takeaway from this? Look how devious our enemies are in the lengths they've gone through to pull this off.
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Exactly.
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Okay. Project That would be very interesting. Hold on, Mirca. It'd be very interesting if someone like Mirca would write the people that, that write the laws of the Congressional Research Service and pose the question to them and see how they answer.
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Murphy would get to see. Interesting to see. And, the only thing is, Roger, Congress is not for United States Of America, the people. Congress is for the United States Corporation, District of Columbia. Well, not necessarily. I'm not interested in That's not totally true. They can pass congressional
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laws up there in the statutes at large that apply to us as long as they're constitutional. So that's that statement is not totally true. Another thing too, Roger, when I'm thinking about that, what you just said, is, like, it's still a man made law. We are under natural law. So it could be challenged. Well, we the as long as the man made law conforms to natural law and is constitutional, it it applies to us. If it doesn't and they alter it through agencies Mark, Mark, could just listen, please. Yeah. When they pass the law and it's constitutional and they pass it to agencies to reevaluate it and reinterpret it, no. They don't apply to us if it comes from an agency. Right. The exception That's eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b.
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Yeah. If they did it for the agency, it would be a a non positive law. Yeah. Another another thing that I noticed is it's always good to research and discuss it. Even if we talk about it here, You you always have to double check the the information and find the factual. And then if you do find it, then share it just like Abraham did. And that's what we were trying to, to, discuss that day was that United States is no longer us. We are not United States Corporation, which is District of Columbia. We are The United States Of America. Yeah. And I have that section that, from the attorney general, if you want me to read that section.
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Yeah. It just said it refers to the private citizens. What does it say?
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It's at the end of paragraph. Thank you for yeah. It says the, thank you for your correspondence to the office of the attorney general. We appreciate hearing from our citizens on matters of public concern. However, we are prohibited by law for representing from representing private individuals or privately or providing legal advice, legal research, or legal analysis to private individuals under any circumstances. So
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that's where they they do acknowledge the private individual. There's your recognition from the state of California. Now hold the son of a bitch's feet to the fire. You're not doing that. Also got the
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yeah. And I also got that acknowledgment letter from the IRS, receiving the citizenship status affidavit. So, I mean, I guess there's many ways that we can just make sure that they they do see it and acknowledge it. Not that we do need that acknowledgment, but, it's important You don't? To see that they do see that the difference.
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When you take your paperwork to the post office and the clerk either does a cert certified return receipt requested or you can ask them to stamp this to, cancel the stamp. That's what the terminology is. And they'll take a stamp out and boom. They they do the sample. The minute it's stamped at the post office, it's considered received in Washington, DC. Period.
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Okay. Like that?
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Garage.
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I'm gonna do a Wadhedism here.
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Well, yeah. That You say if,
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if Israel attacks Turkey from the rear, do you think Greece would help?
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Yes. I think it would. Oh my god.
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I I have I I have one more comment to make, to Roger. Okay, please.
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It's not about Turkey or Iran, is it?
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No. No. No. Still so it's recovering from Wahidism. Okay. So, what I was gonna say was I was just, what a couple one more comment. So I was just reading up just, again, appreciation of, your teaching. Okay. So I was reading as, you know, what were, you know, what how were I was kinda thinking, you know, what were documents, papers, constitutions written back in the mid eighteen hundreds? You you just kinda skim in through it, and I came across the Texas constitution from 1861. Mhmm. Just kinda skim in through it, and and it's bill of rights, you know, that preamble, bill of article, but then it goes on section. Now I get to section seven. Right? It says, the people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and possessions.
Right. The people shall be secured in their persons.
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Right.
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So personhood is like a dress you wear.
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Yes. It is. It's it's a rights and duties. It depends on where you get your rights and to whom you owe your correlated duties. Correct?
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It's it's it just
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hit me in their Their person. Personhood. So could they say that they're protecting you and your personhood of a federal citizen?
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Exactly. They can.
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And they can after you file their affidavit and put them on notice, then they can recognize you and your personhood as a state citizen, receiving your laws of God and not civil rights from the federal government.
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Yeah. So Gavin Newsom, as a franchisee, a governor of that franchisee from, Washington, DC, he's got the responsibility to take care of, to protect this, personhood of US citizen and the personhood of NASCLA.
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Well, I but you read the Texas constitution, but I think it would probably apply to mister Newsom. You can go back and read the 1849 California constitution where a lot of the goodies are.
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That's all I wanted to say. And now one more thing. One last thing I wanted to say is that Yes, sir. So, we're I'm taking I'm taking my whole family to, with our new passports to travel internationally. Yeah. Next weekend, we're gonna be going to Japan for for for a month. Wow. Yeah. If if we don't if they don't let us sit on this new passport, you know, we're gonna I hope you have an extra room in there. They yeah. They won't you won't have any problems. Now, are are you Japanese? Is that your origin? You're going back home from No. No. No. No. I'm not. I'm I'm from Ethiopia. I live in Texas. I originally in naturalized. And, but, no, I'm I'm going for business to Japan and making a vacation out of it. Boy, that should that will be a wonderful trip. Please
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give us all the details when you get back, and I doubt if you'll have any problems. Are the wife and the children, nationals also?
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Yeah. The kids, they're in their twenties. In their teens and twenties, they're kind of kinda wondering what what did did they're so we haven't we haven't gone through the education. They're kinda it's simmering,
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but my wife and I are nationals. Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. Well, please let us know how that is. That should be a delight. Are you gonna be in Tokyo most of the time, or are you gonna go around the island? Oh, we're gonna go around the island. Yeah. That would just be fantastic. Stay away from Fukushima.
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Yeah. We're we're we're we're gonna go to Hiroshima. That's one of my destinations. I would like to see what what happened there. Quite interesting. Yeah. So it was a little a little story. Yeah. A little story. So my father was a electrical engineer in the sixties and seventies. And, he was as part of his he worked for the government, and they sent him to to, to, Japan for six months for his, education. Mhmm. And he returned in late early eighties. He came home a changed person. He was completely different in his character, mannerism, and, and that left an impression on me.
So about Japan and their cultures and their, it's it was just that left a really deep impression on me. And so I'm very thrilled to take my family after all these years, to the same place and show what my father was. What a wonderful opportunity.
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Do you do you do you I have a question there very much. Okay. Hold on. You you are you familiar with Eustace Mullins, who he was? No. No. He he was one of the patriarchs of our movement. He wrote many books. Great long story behind it. But, anyway, he really exposed our enemies, and they hated him, tried to kill him a couple of times. But his biggest market in the world for his books was Japan. He was like a national hero over there, he said, when he go over. So, anyway, they're very open to, some aspects of what we deal with. FYI. Yeah. K? Mirka? Okay. Okay.
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And, Sonnet, do do you, you and your wife are nationals. You have children. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Two. Okay.
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Did you put in an affidavit for them too?
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No. They're they're, they're,
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older than 18. They're they're adult children. Well, that makes sense then. They're adult. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Sounds good that you answered the question. Thanks, John. Great. Well, when do you, you say next weekend you're going on this little social? Yeah. We're leaving on Saturday. We're leaving on Saturday. Yes. Hey, man. Well, listen in advance, if we don't get a chance to talk to you again, have a very safe and a wonderful trip. It sounds like a great trip. Are you flying to LA? Yes. Then to Japan? Are you going to Chicago over the pole? Or what route do you think? No. From Austin to Dallas and from Dallas Street to Japan. Yeah. Oh, wow. Straight. What's that? About eighteen hour flight?
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It's a 13. It's one of the new aircraft, Dreamliner.
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Uh-huh.
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So it it goes a little faster. I've done a seventeen hour one in the past and a longer one it is. Is that a is that a Boeing airplane? That's a Boeing one. Yes. The the one. Yeah. Okay. Well, I won't say anything. It's passive. It's a big boy. It's low. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won't I won't say good luck or anything. Okay? The entertainment system works.
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Oh, I'm sure it's a night. I'm sure it's a night. Thank you, Roger. That's it. You're welcome. You're welcome, miss Solomon. Listen. I hope I look forward to speaking with you. And and and and I I Hey, Robert. Yeah. I I I appreciate you, and thank you for all your teaching, Roger, and thank you for opening our eyes. And Oh, man. I'm so grateful for you. You know, I I appreciate the, the compliment. Thank you, and it's my duty. That's the way I always look at this. Yes. It's just and I hope many of you, take take these teachings the same way for yourselves and how you pass them on. Yes. What, there was a guy trying to say something there when a song Tom d? You're wrong. It was Tom was it Tom?
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Tom d, yeah, was waiting.
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Okay. So it's Carl.
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It's Carl. I didn't see Tom d pop up, Mark. I see Carl Schmidt and Danny Murphy. Oh, maybe maybe it's Carl then. Okay. Well, let's get Carl. Comment.
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Okay. Hey, Carl. Just a quick comment for the just a quick comment for the traveler. Don't let the TSA or other federalities take photos of your like, you don't need to. You're not you're not a citizen.
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Yes. Voluntary. Yes. Don't volunteer.
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That's all I have.
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Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Alright. Carl, who was behind Carl? Danny or Paul's got something to need? Alright. Hold on. Let's see if Paul's got something for us important. Paul? Well, I have something,
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with respect to Mirka's letter, but we can get back to that. I think it's Danny.
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Yeah. It is. Danny. In there. Hey, Danny. It's Christian, your buddy Christian with us today. No. Wait. What? Is your buddy Christian with us today?
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No. I was looking. I I haven't been able to get a contact with him the last few days. Okay. Well, hopefully, he's on the line. Rings, but, he doesn't answer. Oh, that's Yeah. Well, a little bit more perfect perspective on the meaning of state where you're looking at it in a way you're using it. You know, you gotta look at context. Where is this coming from? It's immigration nationalization act. So what what are they talking about for nationalization? Anybody ever, a naturalization? Did anybody ever move from Colorado, and or try to get naturalized by the federal government from Colorado. No. So they're not talking about just one of the 50 states there.
Their state is a more general term for, like, Brazil because you get a different set of relationships internally and externally.
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Oh, man. If you're in You're in your Colorado, you can't get naturalized. Is that what you told me?
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Well, I'm saying if if you're born, raised, and been there at Colorado, are you gonna be applying for naturalization with the federal government? Of course not. You gotta come into the country and request So they're talking about so they're talking about to in general, foreign countries. Of course. So if you're in Or or what's the exception? Danny, what's the exception? Or
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American Samoa.
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Okay. But if you're in Brazil and you have some kind of problem coming up, you don't contact your home state to help you out. You contact the US State Department because that's what the state of Brazil looks at and deals with is the state of The United States. Okay. You're you're you're confusing me on this. Okay?
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So let's try and clarify what you're saying. Alright? If you're a naturalized person that came from Brazil and got naturalized
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No. That's not what I'm saying.
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I'm trying to clarify what you're saying. Okay? Cause you're mixing metaphors here. You're saying if you were born and raised in Colorado, you couldn't be naturalized. No. Cause you were born into citizenship there. If you're American Samoan, you've got to go through the naturalization process because at birth you're a non citizen. If you're from Brazil, you've got to come in and go through the naturalization process and voluntarily claim those civil rights. You wouldn't be beholden to Brazil anymore because you'd be a resident a citizen and a resident of The US. So you'd be beholden to US, laws, not not Brazil.
Okay. That's not at all what I was talking about. Well, I couldn't understand what you're talking about. That's the best I could come up with. You wanna try Start over.
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Start over and set up your scenario from the beginning.
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State state being used as used in the immigration naturalization act is more general than this one of the 50 states. It's any organized government around the world. So you're traveling outside the country and you're in Brazil It'd be a counter. You have some trouble coming up. You don't contact your home state. You contact the US State Department to help you out. Of course. But once you get but once you get back home, the relationships, are are different between the states you're in and the, federal government. Because now you got, like you said, each of the 50 states are foreign to the, United States, which is the federal government.
And so there's a different set of relationships. There's also, like, agreements and things that were done with, reconstruction that that defines what those relationships are. So state, as used there, is is more general than just one of the 50 states, although they qualify. But, you know, each of the country recognized countries around the world have their own state,
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and that's this kind of state that it's talking about there. The other problem the other countries have is they don't have two clear cut delineated political statuses. They've only got one to my knowledge. We've got both because of the fourteenth amendment. They've only got one. In other words, from Argentina, there was only Argentinians. There weren't Argent The there wasn't another status. They were Argentinians. There wasn't an option for them to get out because that that status was never there. And it's the same all over the world to my, understanding.
So I I don't know what or I can't get what you're trying to get across, Danny.
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That's the meaning of state
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the meaning of state where you're taking it from the immigration naturalization act is more general than one of the 50 states.
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Oh, okay. It's capitalized probably. It is in the, in in the instructions on that state department page. It's capitalized. The small the state our states are small, small, case. That's the way they differentiate them.
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Okay. What what what type of state is France?
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That's a capital s state.
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Well, I don't know. I think in the Declaration of Independence, right there in, like, about the final paragraph or so, they had to sever ties with the state of Great Britain. And I don't remember if that's upper case or lower case, but, Well, I don't know.
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That's the time They they they can't organized. And I know this is like US citizen. We're worming down in one of these things. Couldn't you just accept that it's small s state as a state and the others are capital s? We're not dealing with France. We're dealing with the federal government. And I don't know. And some of these things Yes. There's consistency.
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Well, internally, but it's immigration and naturalization act. Yeah. Okay. And that was passed expecting to deal with foreign countries more so than one of the 50 states.
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Correct. But because we're alien, they had to figure it in qualify. But because we're alien to the federal government just like France is.
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Yes. So that's the reason we it qualifies as as a state in that meaning, but it means more general than that in the use through using of it. We get to use it that way because that's where we are. But, just the general meaning of state basically means an organized government for some
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country. Political body.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So the the 50 states qualify for that, but it's more general than just the 50 states. And the way I hear people discussing it, it sounds like, well, it means one of the 50 states and not the federal government. Well, yeah. But it's a little actually, a little bit more general than that. We're using it more restricted because we're internal to the boundaries of The USA.
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If you're external to the boundaries of The USA, then they're dealing with the state there. Well, I appreciate all that, but let me see if I can make a point, Danny. I've been striving for many years to simplify things. And when discussions like this or The US citizen thing come up, all we're doing is complicating the issue to me because I think on the surface, it's very clear cut, and it works. And the bad part, the backlash is if you get into this kind of discussion, if you got any new people out there, you've lost them. Okay? So that that's my comment. I I still don't understand the point you're trying to make.
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That the state as it's being used from the place that you're taking it means something more than just one of the 50 states.
[01:45:14] Unknown:
Which one? Capital state or smallest state or both?
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Smallest state because it's immigration and naturalization there. That was put there mostly for dealing with foreign countries
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and people coming from there. But they knowing that this status is in the background have to incorporate it into the act. That's where in the our you know, I mean, I don't know how much simpler to show you. Certificate of noncitizen nationality under the statement, they break down the INA, the same piece of legislation you're talking about, and that's where the statement is, a a national has permanent allegiance to a small s state. Down about two paragraphs or so, they identify a federal state, Puerto Rico, Guam, etcetera, and they're capital s. That one's small s. That's what we deal with. If it's another country around the world, they need to go deal with expatriation through the state department and not us because we're repatriating back to that alien state of Iowa or Nebraska or whatever.
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Well, I'll just try to make people aware of this so that they don't perhaps use it use it wrongly.
[01:46:34] Unknown:
Well, a a a small s is state, and the capital s is a federal of territory. I don't see any confusion there. I think it's pretty clear cut and and defined just by looking at one small case, the other is capital large case.
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Is that that's where we deal with is why is it in the immigration and naturalization act? No.
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What? The call which one?
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Which one what?
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What you just said is because it's in the act immigration naturalization act. Which one? Small s? They're both in there.
[01:47:16] Unknown:
Well, you're saying small s, but if they got a list of the federal states
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Yes. And they're capital s.
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Okay. What is Brazil?
[01:47:29] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. I'm not dealing with Brazil. They gotta come in and get naturalized before I can deal with it.
[01:47:38] Unknown:
The state department deals with Brazil. Okay. That US state department. Well,
[01:47:44] Unknown:
where does that come into what we do? I can't take somebody from Brazil Yes. And get them free until they get naturalized. They gotta go through that state step first, and I have nothing to do with it. Why does that interest me or confuse me?
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It's just that the state, as the federal government passed this act, is more general than just the 50 states. Okay. But the 50 states qualify as one of those.
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No. The 50 states don't qualify as a capital s. They're small s.
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I'm not saying they qualify as that. I'm saying that's the state.
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Okay.
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Does anybody have a a comment or a question or anything? Has to do yeah. It has to do with citizenship. The United States State Department of DC and, the other countries that have the passport agencies handle, the the citizenship. Yes. It's a deeper dive on the state, but it's not as basic for new students that are learning about national status, and that's something that you would learn after a while. And listening to you guys talk, it sounds like Abbott and Costello.
[01:49:07] Unknown:
Well, I try I'm just trying to say okay. So Danny's bringing in Brazil, which never comes into our our focus here Because somebody from Brazil or Africa or wherever has got to come in and go through the naturalization process before we can even talk to them, before we can help them at all. So to really, it has no bearing on what we do here, Danny. It may be an interesting question to you. It seems to be confusing to me and other folks, but I don't see the bearing it has on what we do here. Curious, maybe, but what's the bearing on what we do? There is none. They've shed that before we can help them.
Are you with me, Danny? I mean, I'm not I'm just trying to say I I guess I see what you're saying, but it doesn't have anything to do with us. Point of view.
[01:50:03] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm seeing that from your point of view, yes, you're trying to deal with people who are Americans to deal with the, federal government and get free of, restrictions of it. Alright. I'm just saying that the nomenclature.
[01:50:21] Unknown:
Well, you know, to it's confusing enough without bringing that in. Can I tell you that bluntly?
[01:50:27] Unknown:
Well, it's sort of it's sort of like saying that that red squirrels and gray squirrels are mammals. And then
[01:50:35] Unknown:
leaving people to think that Well, I don't all mammals are red squirrels or gray squirrels. I can't deal with that squirrel over there until he comes over in our squirrel pack. When he's in our squirrel pack, I can talk to him. Whatever the state department in their nomenclature identifies his former state at, quite frankly, I don't give a damn. It doesn't have anything to do with what we do. It's just another thing to distract people or or yeah. It just doesn't do with what what we do. So I appreciate the question. Is does anybody have any comments on this dialogue here?
Bori was trying to say something. Okay. Bori, you got you got a comment?
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Yes, Roger. I believe that what he's saying that, I believe that what he's saying is that people that come from Brazil don't have to deal with the state. They deal with the, federal government because the federal government needs the one in charge of the residency. Now what he's asking is if Brazil and the immigration naturalization
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act is a capital s state or a small s state. Isn't that what you're asking, Danny?
[01:51:50] Unknown:
Yeah. It kinda yeah. It kinda comes to that. Okay. Well, what difference does it make?
[01:51:55] Unknown:
This would be my response. Well, just using it correctly is all I'm talking about. But we don't though, it doesn't matter. We don't deal with anybody like that. We only deal with them after they've come in naturalized.
[01:52:09] Unknown:
Well, I wouldn't talk about that at all either.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
Wow. Okay. Well, listen. Let's not please, let's stop this if we can. No no insult to you. It's just I can't even understand what's the conversation in the last ten minutes. K? So can we go somewhere else? Roger? Yes, Larry. No. No. Did you understand what he was saying, Larry? Me. Well, you didn't say anything. No. I I I didn't I didn't understand it at all. Okay. Well, you and me both. Paul?
[01:52:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to circle back a minute to that letter that got. Can you read that again?
[01:52:55] Unknown:
Let me see if I can find it. Hold on a sec. Okay. So it says, we appreciate hearing from our citizens on matters of public concern. However, we are prohibited by law from representing private individuals or providing legal advice, legal research, or legal analysis to private individuals under any circumstances. That's the part that acknowledges the private individual.
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Okay. But but you had one that you had said before, long time ago that, we appreciate our private
[01:53:34] Unknown:
citizen. No. It says we appreciate hearing from our citizens on matters of public concern. So they're just acknowledging in general everybody.
[01:53:46] Unknown:
If I remember, I thought they identified private citizens or private individuals or something somehow in the first response. Yeah. Just private individuals on there. Okay. He they acknowledge that I am a private individual,
[01:53:58] Unknown:
and they appreciate hearing from theirs from citizens on matters of public concerns. But they can't give legal advice.
[01:54:06] Unknown:
We can't give legal advice, and that's good because we don't want your legal advice. Go ahead. Right. Exactly.
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Right. Well
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My question I wasn't
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I wasn't, sending them anything of public concern. They just they just kinda throw that in there kinda like the blood flutters. And it's just an acknowledgment of receiving my affidavit and acknowledging that I am a private individual. I am not a US citizen.
[01:54:34] Unknown:
Right. And that's that that would have been a nice response back to them. They could put that in your file and further solicit my I did I did send them I know. I'm saying this for everybody else. I'm saying this for everybody else. Oh. Something like that, you can reply to that, and they have to keep it in your administrative file. You answered something they sent you that was an answer to something that you sent them. All that's in the file. Should you ever need to clarify your position and you get into one of those ugly situations, you can call on that and bring that in as evidence that they recognized you and you responded.
And then the correspondence stops, so that means they agreed with it. Right? Well, that means they consent to it. Right. So these are the little things you could call them. You could call them tie downs. You just do another little little loop knot on them. Boop. Yeah. But but what what I am saying is
[01:55:31] Unknown:
doesn't that almost go all the way to saying that they cannot deal with private citizens?
[01:55:39] Unknown:
They can't represent them. Well, I'm sure so. Well, no, but they've gotta protect them. That's part of the agreement. That's But, see, these are the things they don't know. I mean, I'm certain that you could query maybe the guy in Texas might no different. He's about the smartest one, all of them. But none of them would know. Say, what's freedom for, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance? Why aren't you protecting me? They'd look at you like you were a ghost.
[01:56:06] Unknown:
Yep. The main thing is the attorney general understands the law, and they know the difference between private and public citizens. Uh-huh. And they they need to not just like the passport says, do not hinder their traveling.
[01:56:22] Unknown:
Well, in our on our side, because they got appointed to that position and accepted it. Right? They get appointed. They they're not elected, I don't think. Attorney generals are elected. I thought they're, no. They may be elected in some states. Okay? Whatever. However they got in that position, the minute they took the position and started acting in it, now the phrase is known or should have known. And if they did not know before they got your notice, then they have a duty to find out, don't they? Known or should have known. Right. Ignorant of the lost notes. It goes right with their position. They took that responsibility on when they accepted the position.
Right? Do you see what I'm saying? I do. If you we are I don't know about this. We're gonna send it over to our, our campaign office. Well, you don't do that, ma'am. You you Right. You're the attorney general. I just alerted you of something that's in The United States code that's constitutional. So you now got a duty to respond and know or go find out.
[01:57:36] Unknown:
Okay? That's more It's more governed to govern his agents.
[01:57:41] Unknown:
He's governing his agents. Correct. Do you put all of them on notice, and they've got to all know or else when they take an action against you that's unwarranted, they expose themselves and they lose their cloak of immunity. This is our teeth at the state live level right here. And something I had never even really thought about until, well, one day it came up in discussion here on the show about a year, year and a half ago. I thought, wow, now that should be in some sort of a memorandum of law that we can submit to these attorney generals. Some but maybe one of these days we'll get around to writing it. But it really is our teeth, see? And it all goes back to they owe us automatically.
Just like they do against us, it's a reverse. When we file this affidavit, it reverses the former agreement with the feds. We didn't know we were in that. Well, now we do. We're switching it over here to the states. Well, they don't know what this is all about. Well, they need to because they got a duty to find out because they're the head law official in the state.
[01:58:49] Unknown:
Capisce? Their their laws and regulations are for their employees, government, military, and subjects.
[01:58:59] Unknown:
Those, those under their jurisdiction US citizens and residents. Yep. Those who are under their jurisdiction and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, I'm not subject to the jurisdiction of the feds anymore, and I've switched it over here in the state, owes me protection. So, yeah, it's a different ballgame. And there we've really got some power here, folks.
[01:59:24] Unknown:
Protection meaning they need to abide by their laws, and they need to not or trespass.
[01:59:34] Unknown:
You well, you've got your former you've got your former federal government with their traffic laws and all that crap, and they're helping them force them. Well, they're overstepping their boundaries if they do it on you. Right.
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They're exceeding their jurisdiction.
[01:59:49] Unknown:
Exceeding their legal their, duties and responsibilities.
[01:59:55] Unknown:
And then it's legal.
[01:59:57] Unknown:
Alright. Well, there's the yeah. Oh, yeah. It's legal. Remember, what we do may not always be lawful, but it will always be legal. There it is. Okay. Okay. Well, the sun's coming out here finally. And I hope, you found your two hours spent with us today of of some of some benefit to you. If you were new and you're still just riding the Erie, as they say, whenever you're ready to come forward, you just come forward. We'll talk to you. And, otherwise, Nat, good discussion. And, I trust that you got something out of it. We'll be back again, of course, Monday morning with John Casarum, hopefully.
And, you guys have a very nice weekend, abbreviated as it may be. Anyone with any closing comments? Okay. I Yes, sir.
[02:01:01] Unknown:
Have you seen have you heard,
[02:01:02] Unknown:
Trump say, you know, birthright citizenship is for slave babies only? I did. I heard him say it twice. I just what I was talking to Mark about earlier. I just about fell out of my chair. And, of course, he's using so what the hell is everyone else gonna be? He's using it totally wrong. Wow. And and when we hear him say it, we know exactly what he's talking about. When did he say that? I need to capture that. Yesterday was in the press conference that he gave in the afternoon on all the, Supreme Court cases. That's where I saw it. And, yeah, twice he says it. The fourteenth amendment is for the children of slaves.
Are you well, it's still for the children of slaves.
[02:01:45] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm waiting I'm waiting for that reporter that's gonna stick his neck out and say that what? Why the hell are we all citizens?
[02:01:54] Unknown:
Well, we're getting closer to it, folks. You know, it's slow. And, and it's a little baby step at a time, but we're getting closer to something meaningful happening with this information. I mean, it's meaningful when it touches all of us and what we've been able to build. But I mean meaningful in the fact of possibly affecting change to some degree. Man, would I relish that day. So, anyway, what else? Somebody got another question? Alright. It's my weekend. I gotta go, Roger. Hope everybody has a great day. Mark. I thought you'd already left, buddy. Have a great weekend. Okay? And we'll see you next week. We'll see some of the rest of you Thanks. On Monday or whenever.
Have a great weekend. Love each and every one of you, and, we'll see you soon. Danny, I hope you are able to get ahold of Christian. That sounds concerning a little bit. So, anyway, we'll Roger. Yes, Larry.
[02:02:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Would you say that the Little Rock nine conflict is a good recent example showing how the federal government gives protection to US citizens?
[02:03:07] Unknown:
You're gonna have to refresh me on the Little Rock Nine. I don't know about those. Was that the nine black people nine black people that were real? It was there was a a group of, females,
[02:03:21] Unknown:
black students in Yes. Arkansas. Right. And they were they were not being allowed to attend a school. Yeah. See, I think the year was trying to find the year. I have the article here. Oh, god. Arkansas governor Orville Faubus
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enlists the National Guard. Oh, shit. That was what led FA. Well, that's what led up to Brown versus Board, wasn't it?
[02:03:52] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Yeah. Listen to this. Orville Faubus enlists the National Guard to prevent nine African American students from entering Central High School in Little Rock. The armed Arkansas militia troops surrounded the school while an angry crowd of some 400 whites jeered, booed, and threatened to lynch the frightened African American teenagers who fled shortly after arriving. Faubus took the action in violation of a federal order to integrate the school. The conflict set the stage for the first major test of the US Supreme Court's unanimous nineteen fifty four decision in Brown versus Board of Education of Topeka that racial segregation in educational facilities is unconstitutional.
That's a problem. Decision, which brought
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what's that? Bob brought us that day because it he said we passed a commit a a memorial in Kansas about Brown versus Board of Education. I thought it all started in Little Rock, but it was actually over in Kansas. Go ahead. That's what that comment referred to. Yep. Go ahead.
[02:05:09] Unknown:
The the historic decision which brought an end to federal tolerance of racial segregation specifically dealt with Linda Brown, a young African American girl who had been denied admission to her local elementary school in Topeka, Kansas because of the color of her skin. And then it goes on to it goes on to talk about well, there's an 1896. In 1896, the Supreme Court ruled in Plessy versus Ferguson that separate but equal accommodations in railroad cars con conformed to the fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of equal protection. That ruling was used to justify segregating all public facilities, including elementary schools.
However, in the case of Linda Brown, the white school she attempted to attend was far superior to her black alternative and miles closer to her house. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People took up Linda's cause, and in 1954, Brown versus Board of Education of Topeka reached the Supreme Court, African American lawyer and future Supreme Court justice, Thorngood Marshall, led Brown's legal team. And on 05/17/1954, the high court handed down its decision. In an opinion written by chief justice Earl Warren, the nation's highest court ruled that not only was the separate but equal doctrine unconstitutional in Linda's case, it was unconstitutional in all cases because educational segregation stamps an inherent badge of inferiority on African American students.
A year later, after hearing arguments on the implementation of their ruling, the Supreme Court published guidelines requiring public school systems to integrate with all deliberate speed. One more two more sentences. In 1957, the first major confrontation over this decision came when African American students attempted to integrate Central High School in Little Rock after governor Faubus surrounded the school with Arkansas National Guard troops, a showdown with federal officials ensued. On September 24, president Dwight Eisenhower sent 1,000 US troops to Little Rock. The next day, the African American students entered under heavily armed guard.
The episode served as a catalyst for the integration of other segregated schools in United States.
[02:07:56] Unknown:
Yeah. So they waited a year they waited a year to give you some sort of opinion guidelines, but they only waited sixty days to put the Internal Revenue Code in place. Capisce? So I still asked the tortured question, Larry. You're an educated guy. You know about this stuff. You tiptoed your way around it. How can somebody with God given rights and duties be equal to somebody with civil rights from the federal government? How can those two things be equal? Yeah. And that's the question of the century. I agree with you. So they just mow over it and try and tell you it's about black and white and not political status. And they roll on so they can ask you that one question.
Are you a citizen of United States, instead of saying, are you a citizen of United States or a national? Lack of full disclosure.
[02:08:56] Unknown:
I think the the the relevance there in the Little Rock Nine is they federalized the National Guard because the governor wasn't refusing to enforce federal law. And then Trump did the same thing because Newsom wasn't was refusing to enforce federal immigration law. Right. And then, you know, they they're trying to say, oh, well, you know, it was it was different then because it wasn't, No. Under the was it the nineteenth amendment? It was.
[02:09:26] Unknown:
The rules, seems to me, William, is whoever calls them out first has control of them.
[02:09:34] Unknown:
Well, in the 04/2009, the the the governor called them out to to prevent the law from being enforced, and then they federalized them and then sent federal troops,
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and basically made them stand down. Okay. Well, that's interesting. It probably shouldn't happen that way if my my feeling look at this is correct. So I don't know. But that is when they decide remember, everything else had been done. They'd set up the IRS internally in '51. They'd have a couple lessons, 33, to get all their things in place, and now they're gonna move to close the deal. They had to overcome Plessy and get that 54 internal revenue code, and that's the capstone
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on the pyramid. Is that right there? No. For for sure. You know? But the the relevance here now is with, you know, the governor saying that Trump stepping outside of his bounds, federalizing the National Guard when He's wrong. It's okay. It's okay in Brown v Board, but it's not okay,
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here. You know? Yeah. Well, that's yeah. He's a well, he's a Democrat. Come on, man. That's the way it works for them. They get to do they get to play both sides.
[02:10:47] Unknown:
That's true.
[02:10:49] Unknown:
Thank you, William. Okay. Thank you, Larry. That's interesting. You can bring that back next week and read it to the full audience if you want. An interesting piece. It's dead center over what we do. Yeah. I could do that. Okay. Well, then do that. I was noodle on it over the weekend, and, we can hammer it one day next week when I'm going begging for people to step forward and say something. Okay? Sounds good. Thank you, Roger. Alright. You guys have a splendid weekend. Okay? And I will see you soon. Ciao. Thank you, Paul. And I thank Mark again, but I think he's already gone. So and everybody else. See you soon. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you very much. Alright. You're welcome.
Ciao ciao.
[02:12:14] Unknown:
That was a good show today. Yeah. It was. Okay, guys. I'm stepping away. You guys take the reins. I'll leave the stream up for about another forty five minutes or so.
[02:12:36] Unknown:
Hey, Paul.
[02:12:37] Unknown:
Yeah, Larry.
[02:12:40] Unknown:
So I was relistening to Friday's show, and you you can't and I know this was brought up by Merck, and you fixed the problem. I guess you forgot to hit a button, but you couldn't hear, other other students' voices. I think Roger was talking to Nancy, and all you could hear was, Roger's voice. Yeah. So do you have a recording elsewhere that you can cut and paste it back in there?
[02:13:03] Unknown:
No. I don't I don't have Okay. That recording anywhere.
[02:13:08] Unknown:
And another thing is, it almost looks like the transcript was able to record it. Is that true that even though you didn't have the voice on, the transcript picked it up? No.
[02:13:21] Unknown:
No. The transcript wouldn't have picked it up. If it didn't exist in the audio, it wouldn't have picked it up.
[02:13:30] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. I I was gonna investigate that and but I figured I'd ask you that question first, but so it's just lost, I guess. Yeah.
[02:13:41] Unknown:
Okay. And thanks to, thanks to Murph for alerting me of that as early in the program as she did. Thank you, Murph.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
Hey, Danny. Danny, you were talking about date? Bori. Bori.
[02:14:25] Unknown:
Yes, Nate. Yes? Hi. Jones, what's up, Jones?
[02:14:30] Unknown:
Hi. Hi. Do you do you still think you understand what Danny was saying about the word state?
[02:14:40] Unknown:
Well, I thought that he was saying that, you know, when you come from another country to the state, you don't go to the state. You go to the federal department. You know? Yeah. That's what I thought that he was saying, but I could be wrong. The white we don't deal with the state. That's what I was understanding. You know, when you come from another country, you don't come to the state of Virginia and be naturalized here in Virginia. You naturalized in the federal government.
[02:15:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And I was just gonna ask what? If Danny was still on here, I was just gonna going to ask him to pretend I mean, to put it in an example like he like he, Danny, is is going through some exercise that would explain, what he meant by the smallest state and what he was and what his circumstances would be In an example, if he was talking about capital s state. Oh, it's okay. But that's all I was gonna ask, Danny.
[02:15:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I I didn't hear what this is on it. I didn't hear what, Danny said, but I have some thoughts on that. Maybe I can speak to that. Good. So so, yeah, I I agree agree to what Bori said. You get naturalized to get naturalized in the federal, system. And so but with regards to capital s state and small letter, s state, s state. So my understanding is that, say so a good example, I guess, I can think of and I've I've meditated on this, and I think about it often. And the best explanation that I can come up to myself is, say, for example, you go to, like, counselor's office.
I mean, you know, for to get counseling, like, you know, mental counseling, whatever. And then you go to the doctor's office, and then he he he and then he asks you, hey. So what's your state? You know? Where where are you at? How was your week? So he's asking you for to describe where you are in your mind state mental state. Right? Yeah. So it's a it's a it's not a noun. It's a description. So and you say, oh, this week was great, and you describe it where you are. I had a a, you know, beautiful week, or it was a horrible week, and you described it where you were that week as a as a state, your mental state. Now k. So that that we can all relate to that. Now if the you were in a court case and that doctor is asked to to testify in the court And, the attorney would come to him and say, what was the state of that individual?
K? So in other words, the the doctor is now in a position to describe your state. K? So he has the liberty. He can lie about you. He can tell the truth. He can do whatever the heck he wants. But but the point there is that he is speaking about in regards to the state of the individual. So we can apply that to our state. So when we say we have, we have, we have, what's the word I'm thinking, allegiance to a smaller state, It's the state that that we all agree to. That is the state of mind we're at. We're in a, god's right, god given rights. That's the state of mind we're at.
But in a federal state, they are speaking in behalf of the people. That would be the state of the state of Texas, the state of Virginia, the state of this, the state of that. So to me, that explains why we feel screwed, because they don't represent us. They're lying about us with regards to our state of mind. Anyway, that that's the way I can work it in my mind. But that's how I differentiate between a small s state and capital s state. So I hope I hope that was, helpful.
[02:19:24] Unknown:
Yes. Thank you. And so but just to elaborate a little bit more on what you were just saying about state of, like, state of Texas, then then what was your more, what was what was an elaboration of your what you were saying about that?
[02:19:43] Unknown:
Yeah. That would be equivalent if the the doctor was sitting in a court, and he was being asked what is the state of the subject you were visiting in your office. Right? And then at that point, the doctor is he's he's he's in between you and the the court, and he's describing he's talking about your fate, but in as a, as a third person. Right? He's he's describing the state of the individual. And so to me, that's the way I can I can simplify this whole difference between small letter s and capital s? Because in the language we use, there's a clear distinction on any application of the capital s and small letter s. And one is our individual state, whatever we call that to be.
And then the other one is when someone is speaking in on our behalf, which would be the state of.
[02:20:47] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Good. Thank you.
[02:20:54] Unknown:
I hope I didn't rant too much and confuse everyone.
[02:21:01] Unknown:
So an example is Anna is, an example of the state speaking or someone speaking for us. What's an example in real life of of the
[02:21:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And the the example yeah, the an example in real life would be, like, or your someone comes in, maybe your husband comes in and speaks, about the state of you. Right? If you are in the midst of, for example, a divorce, it wouldn't be it probably would not be the right person to speak, in in behalf of you with regards to your state mental state. But if you're happily married, that would be very different. Right? But either way, it'd be the state of it would be describing the state of someone else.
[02:22:01] Unknown:
Yeah. But, I mean, in, like, the government in in a real political government Yeah. Sample to the Uh-huh. Say I'm interfering, or I don't know if the right word is interfering or or not doing How how you worried it in the beginning something more about they're not treating, people right? What what's an example of the government or the feds? Or
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Yeah. Yeah. In the in the Oh. In the Okay. And sorry. In the in the government side in the federal government side, they've already classified, you know, 99 probably 99.9% of the people as, federal persons. So they have duty and responsibility, which they take extremely seriously to properly represent those that they have, whose state of mind they are, you know, managing or protecting. Right? So that would be, as so so the the state ofs are the federal. So the federal franchisees. Right? So that's why you go to a franchise tax place to pay your franchise tax. Right? So they're and everyone else is franchisee, all other states, both the federal state from Washington DC.
And that's why we have a commissioner. So they have it's all kind of a corporate infrastructure, but let's not get confused on that. But the point there is that US citizens are subjects to be, managed. So whether they do their job well or or not, that would be a different story. Right? Doesn't matter whether they're doing it. The point is there it is there. It is set up in that way. So when we separate ourselves from that and become a small letter s, they just don't know what to do with us because that's not something they it's what Roger was saying. They're they I mean, if you you're not gonna spend your time and energy in, like, point 1% of the population.
You spend your time and energy on 99.9% of the population, which should be US citizens.
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Yeah. So would you say the, government the federal government that they have an obligation and duty to, take care of, so to speak, their citizens? So but but would you say but I think you said and whether they're doing it well good or bad, would would you say that they're managing their citizens? Exactly.
[02:24:50] Unknown:
Exactly. Yeah. So they're they're doing it horribly, but that's not the point, though. But that's not the point. The point is they're having to do that. Right? They have duty and responsibility to do what they consider to be the right thing. And and that would be making sure that the $37,000,000,000,000 is is on your head. And that's that would be it was done for in your behalf, and it's for you. It's good for you. You just don't like it, but it's good for
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you. And and and how do they explain that it's good for you?
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Oh, it it they don't need to explain it. They're just doing it.
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It. Yeah. Yeah. Like the prophylactic sludge sludge is good for you and other observers.
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Yeah. If you if you don't like it, there's a there's the you're the problem, not them. Yeah. So yeah. You did it's I'm in. Yeah. Go ahead, sir.
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Hello?
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Yeah. Go ahead, sir. I'm yielding for you, sir.
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Hello? Hello? Hey, Donna. When are you leaving? Uh-oh. This is Donna. When are you leave when are you leaving for your trip? May I ask? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not sure. Sat Saturday morning. Saturday morning. Oh. And it's a week from today. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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I I got released shortly to go buy, at least one luggage.
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Nice.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm starting to feel a little stressed out.
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Yeah. Big big trip.
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It's a big trip. Yeah. Yeah.
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Exciting. Exciting.
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Yes. Yes. So
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it's it's, you know, we'll Your children are going with you, Zana?
[02:26:58] Unknown:
Yes. We're all all of us are going.
[02:27:01] Unknown:
Well, that's wonderful. I hope you have a wonderful time.
[02:27:04] Unknown:
Thank you very much.
[02:27:06] Unknown:
Are you gonna be just on the mainland or you're going to Okinawa or the surrounding islands?
[02:27:14] Unknown:
No. We're gonna be on the mainland. Oh, that's that's plenty enough.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It's just there's just too much to see. So we'll spend a couple first, two and a half days would be in Tokyo, and then we'll get a high speed rail and then travel up and down the line for the next seven days. Do you know do you know of a place called Nota City? Uh-uh. No. No. I don't.
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Oh, they they have some folks there with a nine hundred year history. I won't get more into it. Oh, wow.
[02:27:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's there there's a lot today just in Japan. I've I've been there several times, but I haven't been there with my family. So this is our first time. Yeah. So it's it's it's a good place to visit. Very good people.
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Did you study their warring states, period? Yeah.
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I, so whatever I can find on Netflix, you know, but Japanese history, that's the way I know. I don't know how much of that is.
[02:28:29] Unknown:
Oh, it's pretty interesting, the samurai and all that. Yeah. A lot of blood.
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Yeah. A lot of blood. Oh, looks terrible.
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Yeah. And those three slit razor blades.
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Yeah. They're just, Yeah. It's, there's one movie I'd like to see with my son before we get on the road. I don't know if we're gonna pull it off, but that's, a Tom Cruise movie. Oh, the Last Samurai? Last Samurai. That's the one. That's
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That's the only movie he's done that I liked.
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Yeah. Oof. Amazing.
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Yeah. But it's a lot of dramatization.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. There was a gentleman that wanted to comment, but, didn't mean to stop them. Hey,
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Is it easy to get around Japan with if without knowing the how to speak Japanese?
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So No? He he don't make it easy. If you don't speak their language, even if they speak English, they will just wait for you to try.
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Hey, Donnie. Do you know Spanish?
[02:29:59] Unknown:
No. I don't. Oh. Oh. My wife is Mexican. Oh, well All the bad words.
[02:30:05] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I had three years of Spanish in high school, like, fifty years ago. And when I went to Okinawa in '81, that was, like, forty five years ago, I found that they don't have vowels, but their letters are pronounced more or less like the Spanish vowels, a a e o u. You know, just like that constantly. So their alphabet would more or less, for 90 of it, be ba de be bo bu, kake kiko koo, dade de do do, all the way through, except for a few exceptions. So that'll help you with pronunciation. If you have a phrase book or a dictionary, that's what I went around with.
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Wow. Funny funny you say that because, you know, as I've mentioned, I'm from Ethiopia. Right? And, was born and raised there. I was I came here as a teenager to go to high school.
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Okay.
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So and my, so I talked about my father earlier. Part of the reason that he came back as a changed person was because he understood their culture, and he understood the similarities to to to our Ethiopian culture. And part of that was the language and what you just described. And so the way our letters we have about 286 letters. Wow. Ethiopia. But they're all consonants, and they are a combination with, with vowels. So the the consonant, sort a a would be a consonant, but it would have a a e o u. Mhmm. B would be ba, ba b ba b boo.
And then it goes on and on and on and on all the way. For fortune. It's very similar. It's it's funny to cut that, but that I can completely relate to that. Okay. Yeah.
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No. You do or do not speak you do or do not speak Japanese?
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Oh, no. I don't I don't speak Japanese. No. I speak Ethiopian. Yeah. I speak, two dialects from Ethiopia. Yes. Oh.
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And the reason your dad came back changed is because he had been he had changed into a more peaceful demeanor
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after being with the client? Yeah. Very peaceful. Exactly. Very peaceful. But he was, my father was very, ahead of his time. And a little bit of about my father. He was, you know, when the he was born in the nineteen thirties, '19 not 1927. And so during his, you know, when he was, in his early teens, and, and that's when, Italy came to colonize Ethiopia. Ethiopia was the only, at that time, the only nation that was not colonized in Africa. And, it, Italy came to colonize Ethiopia. That was, that that was their slice of colonization.
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Why don't you come here, Hazel?
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What's that?
[02:33:44] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. I was talking to my dog. Yes, sir. Alright. And,
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and so he he came. And so they came through the northern part of Ethiopia to Italians, and my father was, saw the whole war, on the time. The Italians ended up staying for about five years and they failed in their colonization. And Ethiopia became the only nation. And Africa, actually, the only nation in the whole world that was not colonized, or at least colonized is that proper term because many have attempted to colonize. And, but that was the last one, by war. And so my father was raised in there, and he was about he was a farm boy. He was about 15 years old after the war.
And, that's when opportunity was presented to him to go to the capital city from farming and just to go study. Right? So he started education at age 15 when he was, when he was, as a at age 50 as a third grader. In seven years, he finished high school, and he was accepted to, electrical engineering program. And that's when his career began, which ended up having to go to Japan and see the Japanese culture and expand his education and became kind of a different character when he came back. We just we almost didn't no one recognized. No one could relate to him.
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But I was I was only there eleven months, and it changed me.
[02:35:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll wait. They're they're yeah. I can I can relate to that? They're they're just, the honor, respect, the just, respect of a mankind, the that, there's just a whole their whole culture is very different. It just, once you see it, it's it just leaves an impression on you. And that's what happened. So growing up, I saw that change of my father, and he's got, you know, pictures and and all these things that he brought with him. And, so fast forward to current time, I I feel incredibly blessed to have the opportunity to take my my wife and kids with me. So, anyway, it's the long and short of it.
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Are you going for engineering business too?
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yeah. I followed my father's footsteps there.
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Nice.
[02:36:31] Unknown:
Do you know anything about hardware relating to, say, an alternate, like an alternative Internet?
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Can can you hardware as opposed to alter there was a breakup. I didn't hear you well.
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Would you know anything about hardware that would be related to starting up an alternate an alternate Internet,
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you know, of something that Internet, you know yeah. To the main Internet.
[02:37:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Not hooked up to the regular Internet, that it would be a private thing. Like, they're all strung up throughout the country. Everybody have a hub, and we can go around the well, it wouldn't be a dark web. We aren't dark.
[02:37:28] Unknown:
Oh, no. It's dark as opposed to light being the one that everybody is on.
[02:37:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We'd we'd wanna be apart from that when the time comes because they're gonna shut they're gonna shut down the Internet. We might as well have our own thing going.
[02:37:45] Unknown:
So I was referring to actually, it does exist. There there is one. It's called the dark web. That's the name they give it. Yeah. But, you know, it's unrestricted. And, you can just there's they can't. And then that's exactly how it's set up. Every computer is, is, you know, it's a hub. Every server is a hub, but that that we have to know how to get on it. Right? So and it's unrestricted. But if you it's it ain't it ain't pretty like the one that we're used to. Right. It's not convenient. You you gotta know what you're doing in order to use it. That's the catch. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Well, we're talking about it now. So that way, when Ben comes, hopefully, we'll be ready.
[02:38:39] Unknown:
So, Azana, are you familiar with it? Do you know how to access it and use it?
[02:38:45] Unknown:
I am I'm very familiar with it, but I have no reason to access it. So I don't I don't wanna do it. I know how it works. I know from technical standpoint, I know how it all works. I know how it operates. But I got other things to do in life, so that's not one of it. So I don't spend my time on. But it it's there. I mean, it's just, if you just do the Google search on how to access the dark web, there, I'm sure there are you'll find some reference to it. But but if you do that, you have to get, like, a just be sure to get a separate computer, you know, with, you know, with nothing on it that you wouldn't mind losing it because there's just there's just too much out there.
So
[02:39:54] Unknown:
So there are people out there using it now, but it's a it there's not safety protocols on it, and it's used for more nefarious thing?
[02:40:05] Unknown:
It's used, yeah, it's used for more, nefarious things. That's correct. Because it's just it's a wild west. Use it for good things, use bad things. You can't. And so, like, for example, the the, you know, set of files and stuff like that, it'd be hard to track it in a dark web.
[02:40:28] Unknown:
Well, we weren't gonna go nefarious. It's just relaying information like what we go through and, you know, mainly our purposes. That that's what I want to set up for.
[02:40:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So we would have a place to unite in case the system the system went down that we use now.
[02:40:52] Unknown:
Yeah. It you you you wanna have a totally separated system completely off grid.
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And and that's why it's a alternate.
[02:41:05] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's it's not easy. I mean, someone has to manage it. It's kinda like the way Paul is managing the service.
[02:41:15] Unknown:
Yeah, Paul.
[02:41:18] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's not it's not easy. Yeah.
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It's
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it's it's, it's difficult, and then you have to have and then you start getting into managing it, and then now you have to have certain rules.
[02:41:37] Unknown:
And And you have to you have to use Linux. Yeah. Yeah. Linux is the better operating system to use. Yes. Exactly. It's not better. It's necessary. A Windows machine would last about eight seconds on the dark web Because there's the one thing in common with everybody that is on the dark web, whether they're there for nefarious purposes or, what they're hiding or whatever they're doing. There is a universal disgust and disdain for all things Microsoft. So you show up with a Windows 10 or 11 computer, it's gonna go down in, like I said, like, eight seconds.
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Yep. Yeah. And that would be part of the learning curve. Yeah.
[02:42:33] Unknown:
Definitely. Sounds like you've experienced that.
[02:42:39] Unknown:
No. That's where Linux came from. It was a bunch of independent programmers that took a a Unix core and built a Windows interface for it that would run on an x 86 architecture. Exactly what they did did. They saw Microsoft, Bill Gates, and Windows. I mean, they hated Microsoft back in the MS DOS days because Bill Gates essentially stole IBM DOS, which was the, the, disk operating system that IBM computers used. He stole that. He made it look pretty and released it under his name. And what do you know? His became more popular than what than the version he stole.
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Well, he was all thousand. Right?
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Yep. He was all hooked up with IBM anyway. Yep. His mother was that guy's secretary.
[02:43:47] Unknown:
Yep. And he comes from well-to-do. And and he's just just kinda if you look at this from a spiritual standpoint, you know, and what where I think about where did he get the drive to do what he did? It wasn't money.
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Proliferation of evil.
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Yeah.
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He is just rotten to the core.
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Yes. And it's a spiritual thing. It was very young.
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And And
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And You've all broken down. Yeah. Sure.
[02:44:47] Unknown:
I was I was just saying that, what y'all talking about Bill Gates, Dan. Right? What what motivated him? I said, well, partially, mental illness if if you were talking about Bill Gates.
[02:44:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I think there's more to it than that. I I think there's, there's something, that would be something physical. That would be something physical. Right? But, there's something wrong with that guy spiritually.
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Well, he's a megalomaniac to start with.
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10.
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I had to step away for a minute, and I just came back. But I seen a headline this morning that he's bought up a bunch of water rights recently.
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And land too, but it's way too much farmland.
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Mhmm. He's the biggest farmland owner in the country now.
[02:45:42] Unknown:
Yeah. So something's really messed up with that guy.
[02:45:47] Unknown:
Well, through some other people, I've been trying to court Blackbird nine, and, hopefully, I can get him, you, and Paul together, and maybe you could hit shit this thing out. Because Blackbird nine was, Blackbird nine was hooked up with, what was that thing called? The, it was before the Internet. He was working on that.
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Telephony or something about telephones and computers
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hookup. Yeah. Yeah. He knows all that stuff. He he'd know how to basically set up an alternate. And with your brains and Paul's together, this thing can get done.
[02:46:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I think our our to be honest with you, the the the gentleman that was speaking, I was listening to after hours. I think this was at last Saturday's call. He has that radio, service. He was, Comcast. His website is Southern Radio. Anyway, AM radio is supposed to be that. Mhmm. Right? So AM radio is supposed to, bypass everything. So that to me, that's the that's the, there's a system for for people to connect. And, it's too much. Yeah. It's already so it's just leveraging what's available is a better odds than having to create an entirely separate platform.
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And and b b nine is big on the ham radios.
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Yep. Yeah. I'll light up my Baofeng, by w eight.
[02:48:00] Unknown:
By by the way, John, I, just need to tell you something. So, do you remember when the time of on one of the episodes that, where Roger turns to you and he goes, hey, Jonah. Are you one of those sovereign citizen? He said to him, no, dumbass. Do you remember that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And somebody asked me if I was, oh, are you one of those sovereign citizens? Yeah. And then I said, no, you dumbass.
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I just wanted you to know. I loved it. I love so hard. It was so hilarious.
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Thank you.
[02:48:53] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a very good one.
[02:49:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a quandary there. Citizen meaning slave. Why would anybody want to call themselves that if they're immersed in freedom. I it's something that's baffling.
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Because they haven't thought the situation through.
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And they're ignorant to the meaning of words, which is one of the things that enslave us all, I believe.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, y'all, I'm gonna have to step away, and it's a great time talking to you all. Thank you very much. And
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Oh, Poopy. I wanted to query you on a couple of things. I just got back from my from my, free breakfast. And Sure. You said that you're from Ethiopia?
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Yeah.
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Do you know that church where they have the, that old Bible in it with the book of Enoch?
[02:50:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's the book of Enoch is the only, addition we have to the Bible that it was a Roman Catholic Bible. We have one one additional chapter, and that's the book of Enoch. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's I was raised as an Orthodox.
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Oh, what did you glean on that? Russian,
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Syrian?
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I'm sorry. Can can you repeat the question? I didn't.
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Which orthodoxy? Russian or Syrian?
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Okay. So, the, it's it's our orthodoxy is very similar to the Coptic Egyptian Orthodox. That's the closest one we have, But it is a Syrian, a bishop in the year March
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Mhmm.
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That he was traveling south and, stopped, on his way, by his house towards Africa. So he was going somewhere in Africa. And, and he stopped through Ethiopia and met the Ethiopian king. And, when a king at that time, if your king changes its position, and then the whole nation changes. And, that's what happened. So the, the the Syrian bishop, ended up staying in Ethiopia, and, and the the Ethiopian king became Christian. And when he changed when he became Christian, he changed his name to whatever it was to Ezana. King Ezana.
So that's where my father gave me that name from. Oh. So, yeah, king king Ezana is a a a very famous king. King abroad Christianity to Ethiopia and introduced Christianity. He opened the year March.
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Yeah. Let's go.
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Before that, we were which you would consider, the and Jude we practiced a good portion of the nation practiced Judaism, And, they they never got the memo that the Jews had changed, their religion, since the times of King Solomon. Ethiopia was isolated. So a thousand years or so, Ethiopia was practicing Judaism as it was a thousand years prior. And, so that's, so the the old way So that that I never got to know things have changed, you know, some so, so what our we practice the the the ancient Jewish Judaism combined with Christianity. So our our cultural identity is pseudo Christian.
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Well, that that but the and Israel. Exactly. Yeah.
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But times are changing. The Muslims are, essentially, in the process of changing the whole Africa, and they're having pretty good success. So
[02:53:33] Unknown:
Yeah. But a religion under threat of death or gleaning and what have you, or what kind of religion is that? That's demonic. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Fine.
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Yeah. My father my fa my father used to say he he became historian of tours. So he has always said, you know, what the West is finally experiencing now what we have been experiencing for the last four, five hundred years. And that was a takeover of the Muslims.
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Is is there anything good about Muslims?
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What is there? What anything about
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Okay. Is there anything good good about Muslims?
[02:54:36] Unknown:
Oh, there is a lot of good. It's not they okay. It's it's not inherently a bad thing. It but it's it's it's, they they, you know, the the common people, wish, good. You know, they wanna see their children grow, do well. Right? And so the common folks are really good people. I mean, I have a lot of friends. They're just, they're Muslim friends, and I have love and respect them and they're great friends. And, they have the same wishes and desires as everyone else does. The religion has nothing to do with it. But the catch is, is the the religious infrastructures, let's just say, the doctrine, and who pushes it, who leads it.
And that's a very, very dark path. And, so it's kind of a religion. It's a top down religion, right, like most religions are. And it's the the top has an agenda. And that's what we're seeing and we just, are experiencing and it's a takeover we're going through. But it's, you know, people don't you know, they just wanna live their lives and tell me what to do. You know, just wanna do my thing, raise my family. Just, leave me alone. Most people are in that in that way and not involved in the politics of things.
[02:56:05] Unknown:
Do do the common folk, the regular Muslims, believe in Jesus Christ?
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No. They do recognize him. They do recognize him. He is very, very well recognized. K? And they see him as, they, he he's in all their histories and their bible. They it's actually the name they use to call them is Isis, which is, the Yeah. Yeah. Isis. Right? It says the letter the letter I at the beginning was, converted to j, a few couple 100 ago, a few 100 ago. But the name was, Esus, I e s u s, and the I was changed to j.
[02:56:55] Unknown:
Oh, so what did they believe he's the he's the son of God of of the creator? He's the son? He's a
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No. He they see him as a prophet.
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Okay.
[02:57:08] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. That's what Roger was saying the other day. I mean, I I always listen after hours. So, most of them recognize Jesus far more than the Jews do. So that's actually a very correct statement.
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And also, I e s o u s is in the earlier King James versions as well as the Geneva.
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Yep. It's in the Ethiopian Bible as well. We call it Mhmm. Thesis. Yeah.
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Yeah. That would be probably earlier than the, King James, for sure.
[02:57:51] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Those ours goes back to that. It's it will go back to the the days of the year March.
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Okay.
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Yeah. It's it's, Sam.
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And and and, Ezana, what year did you say king king Ezana brought Christianity to Ethiopia March?
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Yeah. 03/06 March. Yeah.
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March.
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March.
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Yeah. AD.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
Yes. AD. Thank you. The the '3 the the year 03/25 was the Council of Francia. That's when the universal church was finally established that we call the Catholic church today. It's the year 03/25. So just about fifty years later.
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And what's the main thing, the hierarchy at the tip top of the Muslims, the evil, whatever, what what is the what is their main want to accomplish or or have or be or?
[02:59:06] Unknown:
That's actually a very good question. So in my in my, in my studies, the question is not what so so the question is not what they're the question is who's who's in charge? Right. So like, for example, we have presidents that we would the presidents come and go. Right. But we have the office of the president of The United States. You know? Trump gets in. Obama gets in. But the office is there. It it exists. Right? So you may change the people, but the office of the presidency, is is the office that's there. And and that office, what's that office? That's the real question. So the question is not about religion. It's a question of who owns that office.
So who owns the Muslim religion? Who runs it? What's the infrastructure? People may come and go, but what's the agenda of the office of the the
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Are are they a part of the World Council of Churches?
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Exactly. And you're good. That that when when you when when you get into that and start looking into that and the same people that are manipulating all these churches and all these religions with different thing, they have captured Muslim religion as well. And they it's their agenda that is getting pushed out.
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Who's that?
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Whoever runs the office whoever runs the office.
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The War Council of Churches. Know who they use.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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They I believe it is just simply put evil. Evil is on top of all the hierarchies of all the silly, nefarious clubs that are floating around, you know, the masons, the Catholics, the Club of Rome, all those morons.
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That's not you're not even obvious. And you're
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So you say you say, Gregory, the hierarchy, that's the they. I get credit. Hierarchy
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enslaving you. It's not right now.
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Right. Yep.
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I was just picking on you, Gregory.
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Sorry.
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Oh, go ahead. I'm used to it.
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Oh, if anyone wants one break, if I'm going to work yeah. I'm getting ready for work. They want me in an hour later. Later, can you hear me?
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Yeah. I I gotta go buy luggage too. So it was wonderful talking to you all. Thank you very much. You as well. Thank you for spending time with us.
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Definitely. Thank you so much. I'd like to sit down and have a beer with you if you're into libations. But
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Well, what area are you at?
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I'm up here in Rough And Ready. You come by anytime.
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Oh, when where? I'm sorry?
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Rough And Ready, California.
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Oh. It's
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you're in California, are you not?
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No. No. No. I'm in in Texas. I'm in Austin area.
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Oh, okay.
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But someday I may. So, yeah, I wanna I wanna go at some point. You know, it's I'd like to meet several of you. I wanna go see Mark sometime. He's in Oklahoma, so maybe someday I'll go see him. Tom, I'd like Tom is here too, so I'd like to, Tom from the, the radio, program. So I've been out. I'd like to I'd love to make connections. So yeah.
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Yep. And dealt with Alex, have you?
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Alex? Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. I'll tell you one funny story. I don't if I don't know if Paul is there. It actually it was the Monday before it was the Monday before Thanksgiving. My son I grabbed my son and I said, hey. You wanna go to Alex Jones and kinda talk to him about nationality? He's right there. He's not far from here. And we're like, we've been talking about it for about a week or so and just thanks. We just come here. You don't have school. You wanna go with me? So we're laughing about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So finally we decided, okay, so Monday we're going to go. But I got sick, so I got kind of like a flu or something. I don't know. So I ended up we ended up not going. And I normally don't listen.
I normally don't listen to the Monday shows because of the way work is, stuff like that. But that day, I was sick. And, and, I called in to listen to the show, and it was the date that Roger was not was not on. And, one of the listeners suggested that, to play a recording from some b Wells, that show, the r b Wells, whatever. And it was about AJ, and I listened to that. And and so Monday before today, if you guys wanna go back to the archive, it was that Monday before Thanksgiving, second half of the show. I'm never gonna do anything with Alex. Just whatever it is that show, it's I might be true. It might not be true, but there's something funny about the guy.
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They do. It was funny.
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Yes. There's something weird about that, Kai. And it was about, almost a billion dollar, what is the lawsuit that they put on him and stuff like that, how it built up to that, whether he's complacent on that. And, and this attorney that was on that show that, all ended up playing, was was detailing out some things that didn't quite add up about that trial. Yep. And, and I don't know. It's I it just there's so many weird things that I'm not associating myself with that guy in any way. It may be true, it may not be true, but either way, that's yeah. Azana, are you talking,
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Alex Jones? Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear what he called Stu Peters yesterday?
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Oh, no.
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He said that Stu Peters this is so funny. It's like, this is what you are, Alex. He called Stu Peters a liar, a Hitler lover, and a sociopath among other things. And I was just like, and what are you? What does that make you?
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Because Stu Peters He's just asking for he's just asking for another defamation lawsuit against him. Because Stu Peters was on the Alex Jones Show and he wanted to talk about the, the way things really were in Israel, and Alex Jones kept cutting him off, cutting him off, cutting him off. Yep. And then after the break, mysteriously, Stu Peters was gone.
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Yep. Exactly. Stu told everything that happened on the show and what Alex Jones did to him, and, I think that Alex Jones is a Zionist. I really do.
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Oh, oh, yeah.
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Yeah. Something to find out what you're saying.
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Said about I listen to Stu Peter every single day, and, he makes me laugh just the way his tonality of his voice is and stuff. I think that he could be he he should use the word Zionist instead of Jews, but, since the Zionists are hiding all behind the name Jew, he uses the word Jew. And he just tells you the truth, and he he backs it up with data. And then the people he interviews on his show back it up. So I don't know. I'm not his crypto coin is pretty funny. Drew proof. I laugh. I just think he's funny when it comes to this. I'm surprised somebody's not tried to take him out and silence him permanently because, oh my god, every single day on his show, that's all he reports on.
It make it real great again. And Yeah. Oh my god. It's crazy. He's crazy.
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Yeah. His his wives have been Jewesses.
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Yeah. I don't know. He's just
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another gatekeeper at a different level like, Russell and Burger had he was a gatekeeper at that level. And then you find, Alex Jones, and a little more truth comes out, and you're, you know, drawn to it. And then, you know, you get Stu Peters, and I Stu, he's not pulling any punches. He he he Yep. Shows you exactly how the cow eats the cabbage, and that's something that Alex can't put up with because he's been co opted. He's he's part of the club that we're not in.
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And, I don't know. There's a there's a CIA, project out there. There's two. It's called Project Pogo and Project Zephyr. They have been around for a long time where and and both of Alex Jones' parents worked at the CIA. So Project Pogo is where the CIA will tell you what you can say, and they'll actually tell you to tell the truth. And then they all the listeners that they you garner on your show as a result of telling the truth and calling out these globalists, then they find the IP addresses of you. They find out who you are online and where you live, and Project Zephyr is, extinction. Just get rid of the people who are in the know. These are the resistance. Get rid of them.
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Mhmm. Well,
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Alex has had a habit that when you're a guest on his show, the next day, you get a lawsuit
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from him. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yep. I I think that I don't know. I like I I like sometimes some of the interviews that Alex Jones has, but, I do like Mike Adams sometimes, although sometimes he's very much fear porn, but I do still like him. But I do not like, for the most part, I don't care for Alex Jones anymore.
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Yeah.
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Is that you, Julie?
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Yeah. Here. Yep.
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By the way, I did it again. I, fasted again, for twenty four hours twice in a week. So you know, I guess, a week and a half. You what? Remember? I fasted. Remember?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's
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great. I did it twice, so I'm still proud of myself. Yeah. That's fabulous. For twenty four hours.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah. I wanna go Thank you.
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I I don't hate Jews, and I'm not against Israel.
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I get I just want them to stop fighting. That's all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And it has freaking Laura log Laura Boomer freaking Zio bitch fucking on.
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Yeah. The other day. Okay. F bombs will be immediately room removed from the room.
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Oh, shoot. We're not recording.
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Streaming. Actually, still streaming. I'm eating my lunch, so I'm not gonna take the stream down until I'm done.
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What are you having, John? Hey. How are you? Julie. Yeah.
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Hi, Corey. You know, he's hi. How are you? Good. How are you? Alex Jones is saying I'm doing great. I'm I'm blessed. I'm blessed. Alex Jones is saying that about Stoop Peters because they always tell you what they doing. You know? Yep. He's doing all that stuff, and he's putting it to his stoop because that's what he's doing. Yep. And Stoopers is legit for real. He's not a he's not a sellout like Alex Jones.
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Yep. Absolutely.
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Yep.
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Alex Jones, that's like what do you call it? Controlled opposition also. Right?
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Yep. Yeah. That's why he tell you, oh, follow the plan. Follow the plan. But which plan? Because we don't know no plan. I know God's plan.
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When your your first wife is Jewish and you have three Jewish children, what do you do? All the population in all the world and you happen to marry a Jew in your position, how does it even work? You know? You notice all these high profile people. Out of all the population in all the world, they end up marrying Jews.
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Isn't isn't his second wife also, his current wife?
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Well,
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well, here's he he always denies she's Jewish. But one day, a friend of mine, he makes a joke out of it. I still have yet to ever hear it myself, but he goes caller goes, your wife's a Jewish whore. And he goes, my wife's not a whore.
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That's funny. And I'm sorry you I'm sorry you have Tourette's outburst at times. I suffer from mess and things too.
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Maybe that's one reason why they haven't opted, to Peter yet is they may be setting him up to be another Alex Jones. We don't we don't really know. Set him up to be a part of might be able to manipulate them. You know, they got these mind control machines running all over the place. You never can tell who's gonna get, zapped with it and, you know, manipulated. You know, like, oh, what is all those DIA operations that they've been doing since after World War well, even before World War two, you know, experimenting on
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Did you say m MK Ultra?
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Yeah. That kind of poopy. Artichoke and all those other, fruits and vegetables, I suppose.
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But remember, they may be waiting for the technology to grow in your body to control you. You know? We all got that nano technology growing in us. And if you don't take care of it, if you don't take it out of your body, it's gonna get a point that it's gonna control you, and all your information is gonna go to the cloud.
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I think that'll be through the parasites. Yeah. Eat a lot of kimchi. That's what, who is on? I was oh, it was on Jimmy Dore. He had, Kim something or other on, and she was talking about nanoplastics and how we're being
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Yeah. Microplastic. Microplastic.
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Yeah. Yeah. All that. Blade like these.
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Kimchi kimchi kimchi. That's she even sells a pill form kimchi.
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That would be better because you can't smell it. Smell it fermenting.
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Yeah. They're claiming that Korean people, I forget north or south, but they're saying that they live, six years longer than everybody else, if you can believe that.
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Okay. Now ones are some of the most long lived people.
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Koreans. Early on in my marriage, the wife and I were, property managers for a university apartment building, Minnesota. And there was a Korean family that lived in that building, and she made kimchi once or twice a week. And you could smell it everywhere in the building. Everywhere.
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And I take it you never got used to it.
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No. And we did eventually move, but I don't know if we we, traded up or traded down. We went from a building that smelled like kimchi to a building that the paper boy would piss in the elevator in the morning.
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Did you have cameras?
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No. This was, like, forty years ago.
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Mhmm.
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Wow. Yep.
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Well, like, everything else, it acquired taste.
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Please don't say taste. I'm eating. Cat's already thinking she's gonna fight me for it.
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What are you chomping on, Paul?
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Deboned steak and, baked potatoes.
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Oh, we done stepped up.
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No. We done thawed out some stuff that was in the freezer.
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Imagine having a wife and your nickname her kimchi breath.
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I don't know of anybody that would do that.
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That'd be a good name for a dog, by golly.
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Hell, they use their tongue for toilet paper. Sorry, Paul.
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Hey. Just taste what you just got through eating day or two ago. Hey. That's for a minute too. That might be a form of kimchi. Call it shitsi.
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All participants are muted.
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Now
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let's,
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not top off what was a very, very good, very informative show with a lot of utter nonsense. Thank you.
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All participants are muted, and they can unmute themselves.
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Oh, come on, Paul. What's a little levity? We've got to laugh through this, oh, what was that guy's name? Man. Oh, he's he's from, he's a presenter. Used to be on RBN for a while, and he's from that, island of oh, man. I'm having a serious brain fart. I might even be having a bloody stroke
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over the same island that you're from, the Island Of Misfit Toys?
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Yeah. Eastwood. His last name's Benny. Benny Eastwood. Yeah. That's a guy. What was that saying he's he's always coming up with? What's the what's the use of being killed if you can't enjoy it or some some levity like that? Very entertaining. Very brilliant
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too. Okay.
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Is everybody Go Go ahead, Julie. Oh, you go ahead.
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Lisa, can you hear me? Don't forget what you were gonna say, Julie.
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You go ahead, Joan. I'm listening to you.
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Don't forget what you were gonna say. Lisa, are you can you hear me? If Lisa cannot hear me, Julie, then please go ahead.
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Lisa. Alright. Can you hear us? Lisa.
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You might have left.
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Her name's on here.
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Yeah. She's there. Well, then she's probably in another room?
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Yeah.
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Oh, she did?
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Probably.
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Yep. Yeah.
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Yeah. I wonder why I'm still here.
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I was just gonna ask, because my phone cut out, but maybe some of y'all remember back when, I don't know, maybe thirty minutes ago when I was asking Ezana who's at the top of the Muslim heap I mean, hierarchy. And and then my and then I did hear Brent say, you know you know who's at the top. And so I'm guessing he meant, like, dynasty or fake dynasty. But then but then Lisa came on, Phone cut out. Does anybody remember what Lisa said? I think she was saying maybe was she thought was at the top of the Muslim evil. It
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it's the World Council of Churches.
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Okay.
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And you know who run and you know who runs them?
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The the Zionist Jews or who?
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Them and the and the, Roth style. That hill.
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Yeah. And the and the poke too?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Thank you, BB.
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Some people call him Satan who's on top of that pile of boopy.
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I won't. That goes without saying.
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Okay.
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Well, Brent, I just had to say it. You know me. My big mouth sometimes.
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Yep.
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Who who who is that who is area code 708? He was I like what he had to say. Area code 708. I know I probably know who it was, but I I'm not positive. Okay. Never mind.
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Yeah. Like, was saying that, people come and go, but the program is still the same.
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Good boy. Very good boy.
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Actually, they're not people. They're human. I am here. I am still here.
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Good. I hear from you, Bory.
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You have a skill? Do you have a skill, Kimberly?
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This is like an addiction for me. Every day I learn something new, and every day I I I can't I can't wait for tomorrow to to pass to see him prior on Monday.
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Lisa, I went chasing into Room 1 to to, well, talk, and I no sooner get in there and you jump out.
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I'm sorry. I didn't know you were looking for me per se. Oh, I was Come on over there. Oh, that I was gonna listen to another video, and I started listening to it. And then I'm like, yeah. I don't really feel like it. I'm a go back over here.
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Uh-huh.
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Right. Yeah. Something like that. Well, Andy must be doing the same thing because he's not seeing anything either.
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No. He's not. So and I didn't try to speak to him when I was over there. I just
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k.
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So were you looking for me for something specific?
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No. Not really. I just had a, you know, just kind of a question in passing, but it's not important.
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Okay.
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So we we can pop back over there if you wanna ask me something.
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Case of yesterday, you know, we dropped the news one. A little more private. To finally come in just for Well,
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Okay. Yeah. Let's go over that.
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To release this. It said that, you know, I am now. To court for filing What's the thought? As early as this coming Thursday,
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July 3. It's not quite until the case of treatment ends. July 1 and Tuesday, also President Trump will be speaking at two to wrap it up for the 250 candidates for the celebration.
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And with Jubilee is from this July to next July. So it begins to share concurrently all the way to the end of year. This is obviously currently, as we know, on purpose and was delayed for this time on purpose. So we're watching for that. Once the paperwork is in officially approved, we are watching for a price point between 10 to $30, which should also trigger the dinar. That's why all these things are important for Corland very, very well. This is Sean Bailey. Please call me for more. Breaking news close with the XRP Ripple SEC case. About as of yesterday, as you know, we dropped the the news one with a lot of other people that the appeal to finally come in. Judge Torres has granted the appeal process. XRP will pay 15,000,000 out of a possible 125,000,000, which is stone change for them to release this, instead that, judge Torres could release the documents into court for final approval and submission as early as this coming Thursday, July 3. If not coincidentally, Basel three begins, July 1 on Tuesday. Also, president Trump will be speaking to to Rapazio for the 250 kickoff of America celebration.
Remember, the Jubilee is from this July to next July. So it begins this year concurrently all the way into next year. This was obviously coordinated, as we know, on purpose and was delayed for this time of purpose. So we're watching for that. Once the paperwork is in and officially approved, we are watching for a price point between 10 to $30, which should also trigger the dinar. That's why all these things are important and correlate very, very well. This is John Kelly. Please follow me for more. Breaking news, folks, with the XRP.
SEC case. Now now as of yesterday, you know, we dropped the the news calls to a lot of other people that need. Appeals have finally come in. Judge Torres has granted the appeal process. XRP will pay 50,000,000 out of a possible 125,000,000, which is a term change for them to release this. It said that, Judge Torres could release the documents into court for final approval and submission as early as this coming Thursday, July 3. Coincidentally, Basel three begins, July 1 on Tuesday. Also, president Trump will be speaking with Secretariat as a whole for the two hundred fifty kickoff of America's Celebration. Number two, please, is from this July to next July. So we get this year concurrently all the way to next year. This is obviously coordinated, as we know, on purpose and was delayed for the standard purpose. So we're watching for that. Once the paperwork is in and officially approved, we are watching for a price point between 10 to $30, which should also trigger as an alarm. That's why all these things are important for the query, very well. The shutdown, please call me for Thursday, Thursday, July 3. And coincidentally, Gabrielle three begins, July 1 on Tuesday. This is the best news to be speaking to Reva, with the two hundred fifty kickoff of American celebration.
And originally, it's from this July to next July. So it begins this year concurrently all the way into next year.
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Hi, darling. Are you done? Hello? Yes. Okay. Coming outside. Hold up. Do you wanna come use the bathroom before you go? No. I have I have your Coca Cola. Let me bring your Coca Cola because I have, three more boxes for you. Hold on. Okay.
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Well, how many of y'all are lining up to get your wearable? That thing that, that great man Kennedy is pushing now. What's his name, Robert? Or what is that name? It's supposed to be some secretary of health or whatever.
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Robert Kennedy junior.
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Alright. Thank you, Joan. Yeah. Pushing you know, you just wear this patch or get a tattoo, and it'll it'll relate all your health statistics and everything else to the cloud. And by golly, you'll just be a healthy, happy camper. It'll even tell you how many bugs you can eat the next day. You gotta keep your carbon footprint down, don't you know? And, that means less breathing.
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Seems like he's slip slops a lot. Says something good and something bad. Something good, something bad.
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Like the orange haired critter. They call him Trump. He's the Trump card.
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Alright.
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It just goes to show that boating doesn't matter. Actually, it it tell those morons that, you're okay with whatever they do. I just still can't wrap my brain cell around these people that even though they voted harder, they got a harder slap in the face of reality, and they don't wanna admit they're wrong. That's another big problem.
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Yep.
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Yeah. So get me one of them there, preparedness tablets advertised on RVN. And picked it up yesterday and opened it up, and I'm going, man, what the heck can I do this for? I don't know how to run a darn thing. I can barely get this phone here to start working. You just can't fix stupid. That's all I got to say about that.
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What does it do? What you ordered, what does it do?
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Well, it's supposed to, help remind you during time of crisis, what to do. It's got all sorts of different preparedness tips and whatnot on it. Do you, listen to Republic Broadcasting Network, Joan?
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Yeah. Listen to, you know, certain for three or four, BB, BB nine, Mer, Gaddy, Steven Whitener,
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Don't forget James Fitzer, doctor Fitzer. But it's on the commercials. That's how I got it.
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Okay. I I will fast forward through the commercial story.
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Yeah. It's supposed to be extremely intense and involved in the whole shiitake. I just gotta I just gotta sit down and put my brain cell in the right mode, I suppose. And that's hard for me to do. It's not impossible. It'll just real difficult.
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If you need, you can send it out to Carl. He'll he'll surely take it and then tell you how to use it.
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I'll guarantee you, Gregory. There's some books on there. He ain't got what I've got. And I've been trying to link up with you to give you a bunch of stuff. But, well, when you make that happen, then you'll get my books.
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Well, that goes without saying, Brent. I call you what do I call you? The prepper's prepper. Yeah. You take prepperness to, a whole new level. And if I ever if I ever well, hell, I trying to get rid of some folks, and one of the people that, lied to me was supposed to help me with all that stuff, and she turned out to be a big lying flake. And now they're grifters. I found out, too late, and, Ding a Ling's are playing Pacific Heights on me. I don't know if you remember that movie with, Michael
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Keaton. No.
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Michael Keaton, his way into this couple's house that they were trying to rent out to, make the bills. And, man, I tell you, he did some real ugly things. And he acted so well in that movie that if I ever see him again, I'm I'm still gonna punch him in the nose. But, Yeah. These folks, they they moved in under false pretenses and turned out to be a dud. And now I've got to deal with that crud, and it's it's not fun. You talk to the sheriff's. Yeah. They've even called the sheriff's army when I shut off their water. I guess you're not supposed to do that. You gotta go through all these stupid hoops to get rid of them. And I guess it takes from three to nine months.
And even though we've got proof that they've been, stealing off the credit card, they the copper won't do anything about it. And I finally figured out that, they've gotta get their piece of the pie. So I gotta go down there and file a bunch of paperwork and this, that, and the other. You know, I'm not good at paperwork. It's turning out to be a hell of a fiasco.
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Well, that's why you don't let people stay over or near thirty days because Well, we're not. The whatchamacallit law is going to affect water's rights.
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Yeah. Forty now is is changing.
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Well, I've come to realize that all these laws are created for the criminals.
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Well, criminals don't follow the law.
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Well, that's what the country was founded with, the floundering fathers, supposedly. There are a bunch of damn drifters too, It turns out, you're going to get with That's what all of them were. Had a loan from the US government, 17,000,000 and that's what they needed. Because he was probably at the top of the pile. He was one of the top three richest people in The Americas. What'd you expect was gonna happen?
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Yeah. I tell you, nothing beats that Michael Gaddy as far as history is concerned. He really opened up my my poor little brain cell to a lot of what's really and what really happened. Like, they they put all those founding fraudsters on religious type pedestals and say, oh, how great they are and blah. I mean, they sold them like, you know, Edward Bernays selling, what do they call that? The torches of freedom, you know, getting women to smoke.
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And change what we eat for breakfast, bacon and eggs, which I just had some. Oh, I can get someone to read a paragraph at work and stuff, and they kinda get the idea. They read, Thomas Paine's letter to, Washington, the last paragraph of it, and then I made it available to them. It was a group of, like, four people, and they didn't wanna touch it.
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People just love their ignorance. I don't know what it is. It's it's I'm sure it has a lot to do with the programming they've been programmed with, and they just shut down as soon as you hit them with just even those spelling of truth. It just woah. Either flag over their head or
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Well, to one's credit, they did listen to, the first part of Rince's program where Roger was on there. And they had they had real good questions. You know, they I guess they took notes or something more. They, you know, they're the mental acuity to, you know, remember stuff, but they had some good questions. Nothing I wasn't able to answer or didn't have a hard time answering, but, you know, they paid
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attention.
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You don't have the, time to come on the conference caller or research it further.
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They're at work, but the thing is is they can they see I I I demonstrate to people. I say, when you see this earphone in my ear, which it is all the time, I'm pretty much listening to something or, you know, taking part in it. And, you know, their job is where they could probably do it. You know, I'm interacting with the public and stuff while I'm doing that, and they they don't even interact with anybody really unless they want to. And so they could do it easily. They just have to do it.
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Yep. And lead the horse to water. Can't make them think.
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Well, thing is their oxes haven't been gored yet. Because as soon as somebody has something happen in their life and they don't have an answer for it and they don't like it, you know, they come running.
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Oh, that's like me. I, having a hard time I almost lost you there for a minute, Brenda, but I'm having a hard time remembering and actually doing what I need to do on the computers and and get my brain back to working on that. I used to be fairly proficient at it, but when I lost or threw away my mind, that kinda went out the window with it. I'm just barely able to to get back on this this dumbass smartphone.
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Oh, eat more eggs.
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I bet you have something there. I have when I was a kid, I was allergic to eggs, and I was forced to eat them. And they'd give me a gutache every time, so I'd have to wait till the everybody left. And then I'd throw the eggs in my mouth and go to the toilet and spit them out. I mean, it was bad. And I always had an aversion to chicken too. I just never liked chicken either. Real queer that way, I suppose. I'm getting used to eating eggs, though.
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Probably the vaccines you had had egg in it or something. That's how a lot of that stuff happens.
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Yeah. Thank you. That that makes sense. Yeah. And, they didn't put peanuts in my I
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was gonna say peanuts is another one, another allergen. Well, I'm getting ready for work. I'll be listening in, and I'm getting into my crunch time. I wanna be able to wand and do a couple of back exercises before I walk out.
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Well, thank you, Brent. Make sure to tell everybody I said hi. Better yet, just stay high. That's what I've been practicing with my party party political, party.
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Well, I'm playing the Lone Ranger right now. You know, there's, like, very few people in my life right now.
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I can relate. I pretty much ostracized myself from most everybody, and those that do stick with me kinda are repulsed. But they hang on. And those are your true friends. Unfortunately
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I lost I lost Colleen, so it's like, you know, yeah, I talked to her friends and what have you, but not not in the depth that we used to.
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Yeah. It's most odd how people like that are so rare, so so fine. So they comprehend a lot more, overstand things. They're able to relate to them on a on a lot of different levels, which is, you know, something to cherish, something to truly truly, love.
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Okay.
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Can you ask for that or what? Sounds like you shuffling papers.
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Thank you.
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Well, the world's changing. We're going to see if we can add our 2¢ here. We'll take another stab at it on the Saturday edition Usually, a little bit different show. And, that is on the June 28. If I'd quit spilling my coffee here, will be better. Roger Sales, Mark's along for the ride today, and the Radio Ranch. And, I imagine we don't have too many folks tagging on us today, do we, Paul? I'll let you, sort that out.
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No. We really don't. We just have euro folk radio dot com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and Global Voice Radio Network. Links for both of those platforms as well as the free conference call link to join us live on the show is on our website, thematrixdocs.com. Thematrixdocs. You betcha. Wow. So We made it. Still.
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Yeah. Right. I I was real, real under the wire today. Excuse me. And on top of that, I spilled my coffee.
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Yeah. Okay. I was real under the wire as well. I had massive failures, Mal massive failures, and, I literally did not figure it out until four minutes before showtime.
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Oh, okay. I'm rested. I didn't wanna interrupt you. Morning, Mark. Glad to have you along all this. Good morning. Hi. It's Saturday. Good to hear. Yes. Well, we're always happy to have you. The Sabado edition. Correct. And, usually, it's a little bit different. We'll see we'll see what today brings. We've had some good ones a couple Saturdays ago. Tom came on from California. We got to go around, you know, with Tom showing him, some more of these connections, which irrefutably prove what we're doing. You know? Even though, boy, they still like to kid they just don't like being found out, do they?
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No. No. There's really nothing they can do about it. You know, like you said, unless they wanna rip off their mask and be shown as tyrants, then, you know
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Yeah. Come on. Show us how big a bully you are, you little lioness pigs. And I mentioned it occasionally go go ahead, Mark. Oh, I just I just Roger, I just keep getting amazed as
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different things pop up with, you know, involving the federal government. And I was now it's it's a little different mindset. I'm like, okay. How would that affect me if I was a national? Oh, they wouldn't have jurisdiction or, oh, they wouldn't, they wouldn't have, they wouldn't have any ruling over me. Right? Yeah. So it's just, it's so much fun to think, you know, just shift your mindset a little bit. And as we, you know, tend from time to time to get wrapped up in all the federal junk, think about, does that apply to me any longer as a national? And most of the time, it's a big fat no. Yep. And boy, it sure feels good. I just love it. It just keeps getting better and better.
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My my journey with this is so interesting because it comes in sections and I I had I had it all, but I just couldn't figure out. And I I I and looking back on it, I'm pretty sure this is the reason is because they're one of their techniques and they've got several. Okay. One of their techniques is to change those labels on the concept. And boy, when that hit me, it it just is a big teaching moment because that, I think, Mark, looking back is probably well, that the definitions too, obviously. But that's one of the main things that has tricked our community for decades because they don't know these backing legal concepts.
So whenever they put a new label on something, they just follow it as something new, and they don't realize it's what they're looking for. And right in front of their faces, just call something different. And so when I saw that passport application and it allowed me to connect those two, the warning box and the secretary of state of The United States Of America there on the first page of the, DS 11. Well, it just hit me. Wham. It's taken me a while to sort through it and come up with answers like the one I just gave you. They they they they use the same concept, and they just misidentify it. They take a word and they misstep give you the opposite definition. All these little tricks, these guys have gone to great extent to pull this off.
I mean, great extent. And they, as colonel House said to Woodrow Wilson, if one or two people find out we've got plausible deniability, well, you don't have it anymore. Okay? And they don't know what to do about it. I was thinking, and I mentioned the other day, do you remember freedom to fascism, Mark, with the
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Oh, yeah. I was there. Aaron Russo. They had a, premier in in Las Vegas, and I was there. Yeah. Do you remember part 02/2005,
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I think. Probably something like that. Is it You remember the part in the middle when he was talking to a guy named Sheldon Cohen?
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No. I don't. It's been a former
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a former IRS commissioner. Yeah. And they were talking in Yiddish. They dropped back to Yiddish. Oh, really? And Sheldon Cohen said, you can't get out of it. Wrong. Not as a US citizen. That's right. Wrong. Wrong, mister Cohen, little Zionist pigs. You slaving bastards. So and I've got you. Yeah. We've got you. Right? Pie the short hairs, you silk chicken shit bastards. So, anyway, Saturday, you're do what, Jamar? Oh, go ahead. I'm just gonna say it gives me great pleasure, to to have gotten these guys. Okay? Because really, as I've said, I I've studied history.
And these guys, particularly for many years, I don't know of any other instance where somebody has gotten them as cold as we've got them right here.
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Right. Right.
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Cole, it's it's interesting. I had a chance to talk with, a friend of mine who's going you know, is in the process of getting his national status. He had another friend who, you know, he wanted me to talk to because they were showing some interest. And I was just kinda leading them along just that short historic, layout where where prior to the civil war, there was no such thing as a US citizen. There was no such thing as a federal citizen. Nope. You were a state citizen, typically starting where where the state you were born. If you moved and domiciled in another state and made that your permanent home, you become a citizen of that state. We got we got US Supreme Court law that backs that up.
And it had to do with jurisdiction and the guy, you know he tried to sue somebody in a state that he wasn't a citizen of and it didn't. He he sued him in the wrong place and he basically was a sojourner at that point and he didn't have a home. Right. So anyway I kind of led him through that and I got up to the Civil War and the enactment of the thirteenth Amendment and the fourteenth Amendment. And then when I explained the purpose of the fourteenth Amendment, it was like, you know, it was like, oh that was for the newly freed black slaves to get citizenship. He almost finished my words and he goes, because the Southern states wouldn't give them citizenship. And I said, that's right.
And then that got morphed around until we all become US citizens now, if you're born in in one of the 50 states. And he he he caught on rather quickly. I was I was kind of surprised because it usually takes people a little bit to kind of get it. It's it's amazing. Some people get it right off like your friend here, and others,
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well, they just walk away and call you bad names. Did you see, president, president Trump on his little press conference about the Supreme Court rulings yesterday. Mark, you happen to see that clip? No. I didn't get to see that. I did hear
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about Amy Coney Barrett, slapping verbally slapping, justice Ketanji Jackson. Oh, yeah. And that was pretty interesting.
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Well, I didn't hear that. You'll have to relay that to us with the it is Well, tell us what Trump said first. Well, I'm going to. Tell us what Trump said first. To tell you. And Trump's up here going on on this ruling, and he goes, the fourteenth amendment was for children of slaves. Before he even repeated it, the fourteenth amendment was for children of slaves. Boy, you don't know how right you are.
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Oh, wow.
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Said it twice.
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Wow.
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Of course, he doesn't understand the context like we do, but, what a statement. I just about, I just about bent over backwards. Yes. Who's, who's saying Roger there?
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No. I think it was just me. I was I was chiming in with you. Well, but do have a chime in. You you you you had a premonition of it, Roger. And and has he taken the children because of all persons born?
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Well, well, you gotta understand that this is over the it wasn't over. This one wasn't about birthright citizenship. Evidently, they said in that somebody was saying this gonna be take that's gonna be taken up this fall when they reconvene. This was about the injunctions as alluding to birthright citizenship because Trump was saying that the there's 200 and some odd, maybe more, children born from this, these illegal immigrants. And those are the ones they were saying are not citizens. And the here's the big difference. I'll go over it again. And, Wong Kim Ark is the the case on it. And Wong Kim Ark's parents had moved from China to San Francisco and established themselves. I don't know about what they were doing with the residency and all that stuff back then. I don't even know if it it was a thing, but they established themselves in California in The States.
And then they had Wong Kim Ark. So they were still citizens of China, but they had established themselves in The US. These people are coming across the river and dropping the baby and saying it's a citizen of The United States. That's what they wanna stop, and that's what this addressed to my understanding. Just those children. It's not on the whole issue. It's on the children of these immigrants that were invaded as of the last few years. So, we'll see. Let's see what other big decisions did they. They hit one on the, books on, out of Maryland, Mark, with, not being able to shove, you you know, pedo pedo freako sexo books up your children's in their minds. So that got rule of the gifts, which is good.
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There were some pretty good rule Roger, that allowed that allowed parents to opt their children out from certain school instruction Right. That had to do with LGBTQ, t, x, y, z. Uh-huh. And yesterday And it looks like it was a Muslim name. It was, Mahmood
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versus Taylor. God bless him. You know? The, evidently, yesterday was the last day to release cases from this this term, so there won't be any more next week. All that have been released have been released. And, so I hope judge, justice Thomas is washing his RV this weekend and getting ready to take off on some kind of a sojourn across the country. You know, that's what he does. Yeah. Yeah. And he just likes to go out and mingle with the people. They don't even know who he is. You know? What a he is a what a great man justice Thomas is. And one of the one of the best success stories to me to come out of America, honestly, Justice Thomas.
Yeah. I'm sorry when he decides to retire. Tried to derail his confirmation
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big time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That intently.
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Oh, yeah. The and the, the the the pubic hairs and
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whatever that girl's name was. And and then and then when he left to go to another, I think, a law firm or, or he I don't remember what where he moved to, but the the lady that was accusing him of of harassing her followed him. He chose to get a position, in his office. So,
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man, I can't even think of her name anymore. I can't either. It escapes me. I can see her face. Right? There was that great documentary on him a couple of years ago, that came out that was just was just super. You know?
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Are you thinking of Anita?
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Anita Anita Hill. Bryant. Anita Hill. Hill. That's right. That's right. Yep. Thank you. Roger? Yes. This is Julie. Is this Julie? Question for anyone that might have Oh, it's Robbie. Robbie. Okay. Alright. Go ahead. Morning.
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Mark mentioned if you were born in any of the 50 states. What about us poor folks that were born in DC? Is there any anything different for us?
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Mhmm. Boy, that's actually interesting. Yeah. You
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remember, it's all about it's voluntary, one. And two, you declare your allegiance to a small s state, meaning one of the 50 states or one of the states that made up of the union, of The United States Of America. And always remember that, United States Of America, USA. You got a US Federal Government, which kind of operates outside of the law, in my opinion. And then you've got The United States Of America, which just seems to be sitting there dormant. And but, yeah, you if you're, if you were born in DC, the District Of Columbia, then you absolutely have every right to change your status.
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And this is where, okay. Let me just say this is where that statement from the, certificate of noncitizen nationality comes in, Robbie. All US citizens are US nationals. So it doesn't matter if you were born in DC the way they've had to construct this. You can volunteer to the other side. Paul, what was your comment?
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And if you're picking a state, go to a map pre Washington DC, pre District Of Columbia, and wherever you were, that's the state you were born in. Could've been Virginia. Could've been Maryland.
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You can go to Virginia and hang out with, you know, Julie and Nancy and Suzanne and all our good, good females there in Virginia. We got a contingent of them. And bore I think Bory's in Virginia too. Is he? Is he? Okay. Bory too. So no no no big change. North Carolina. Okay. Well, then North Carolina. Well, then you can do North Carolina if you want. Doesn't matter. It's your choice. Well,
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here's what I do is don't say what state that you're declaring your your, allegiance to because that could change. Right? Yeah. But you don't say in Rogers affidavit that that that you're a a national who owes allegiance to a state, basically. Yep. So Yeah. We I wouldn't I I the only time I would do that if I had a permanent or a current home permanent home in a state and I was asked about that. Mhmm. Then I just say, well, yeah, I owe my allegiance to whatever state I'm in. Mhmm. And I wouldn't say state of North Carolina. I'd just say North Carolina state. Correct.
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Robbie, we're always with that.
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Sorry. Go ahead, Lisa. No. No. No. Go ahead, Lisa.
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I always wondered with your, birth certificate having to be used there, if that wasn't kind of showing Well, it would show. Where you would be have an allegiance to, but those are states of. So Well, still that you don't have a choice in. That's right. You need a choice when you're born.
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Yeah. And everybody born in in a in a state, a US state and territory, they're gonna be a US citizen or US national. So don't forget the thirteenth amendment. You cannot be an involuntary servitude. You cannot be made a slave. And anybody that pushes back and says you can't do that, then I would throw in their face, so you mean you're violating the thirteenth amendment? Yep. And you're forcing me to be a US citizen?
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Or or they could be like Alex. One. You could be like Alex Jones as the opposition say, well, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment. How about that? How about that is a confession right right out in front of God and everybody, but nobody understands it. I understand what they were saying. Mark does. You probably do, but nobody else did. Alex sure as hell doesn't.
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No.
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He doesn't know. Too bad he didn't put InfoWars into trust from the start. I know. Oh, man. That that's a serious,
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serious oversight right there. Oversight. Yeah. I agree. I'm just like, are you kidding me? Yep. You would avoid it all. The high level thinking people you know And I think they support you.
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Evidently, they've got he's got a team in the Department of Justice that's overlooking all the crap they've done on this suit, and they're gonna start filing. Do you know what the latest move is from them? They've gone after his wife and his parents who are now, because of all this warfare, almost bankrupt in their old age.
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Oh my goodness. I these people are the slimiest son of a bitches. Well, here's the thing that people don't do, and I wish they would. If you if somebody sues you and it's it's malicious, there's there's no grounds for them suing you and and you win your case or you get it dismissed, you should immediately turn around and sue their butts for malicious prosecution. Yeah. And if these people would start countersuing for malicious prosecution, it might stop this nonsense.
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I I hope that it comes to a stop. The Texas, appeals court is about to overthrow the judgment in Texas, he has said. Cool. So, hopefully, that will happen. Nice. We've gotten off on a tangent here, not a tangent, like, a discussion of important current events. But is there anybody in the you know, these the Saturday shows were for new folks at work, really, that had questions, wanted to discuss some of this stuff and couldn't because of their obligation. So if there's any folks on the board that fit that criteria today, please come forward, and and we'll we'd love to address what you got. We've we're all here to do that. And if not, we're gonna discuss these other things that are, current, you know, important, and they are. That decision on this injunction thing is really important because it totally frees Oh, that's huge. Yeah. They totally frees him up to do everything he's been wanting to do. That's how they've been stopping him. Did you hear Pam, Bonnie? Well, you didn't see the thing yesterday.
Bondy. Bondy came up there and said, let's see if I can remember this. There were five districts that 35 of these cases came out of. Only five. Oh, wow. K? So all those are done. So that good good on the supreme court and and whatever, whether it was intentional or whatever caused Amy, Conan, Bryant to write a positive and land on the side of better than Trump. Good good on you, Amy, for once. Anyway.
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Well, what was interesting on that, Roger, real quick before you move on from that Right. Topic Yeah. Was was,
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Ketanji
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Jackson. She called their decision as as violating the constitution. Right? She said Oh my god. They should not allow the president to violate the constitution and, said that was not based on any existing legal doctrine. This is This is what, Ketanji J. Jackson said. But when you go look at Amy Coney Barrett, she said, We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of president precedent, not to mention the constitution itself. Yeah. We observe only this, justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial
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judiciary. Yes. I got that phrase. I'll tell you what's gonna be a barn burner, Sunday night with Barnes hashing all this out. It should be a barn burner. Okay? So yeah. So whether you get it recorded or you participate live, you know, listen. That's gonna be worth listening to. Tomorrow.
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Yeah. That's tomorrow. Night. Yeah. And and if you go to Rumble, you can watch it live, and they start at 6PM eastern, 5PM central. Mhmm. That's Sunday nights. Oh, in Barns? If you just go just go to Rumble, do a search for Veeva Barnes,
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and it'll pop up. Their channel will pop up. When they're live, the little icon, the little, front page thing with him and Veevan, there'll pop up. Now he Right. Is probably just about finished. I would think at this late date in June, he's about finished with his move, back home. He's moving back home to Chattanooga.
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Yeah.
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And I'm surprised at that. Well, it's very shocking to me. Yesterday, Brent brought out something I'd never heard before. That area of the South Eastern Tennessee and on up a little bit into Kentucky, They were all for the North in the Civil War. They didn't want the South to go into the Civil War. I didn't know that. Okay? Oh, no. Well, there's some really big battles in the Civil War that were fought at Chattanooga. The battle of Lookout Mountain, where you could still go up there today and, go up to the post where the soldiers were, where it was dug into the side of the mountain there at the top. And the reason is that's the highest point of land around there, and it overlooks the Tennessee River as it goes. So they couldn't nobody could bring any ships or anything when they had command to look out mountain. And, of course, then, as they got through that and and one and went south, there's about, 90 miles, if that much, down to Kennesaw Mountain, which is just right where I used to live close to. And that was the Battle of Atlanta.
On Kennesaw Mountain, you could still go up there, see the cannons and all that stuff. They got some historical buildings and memorabilia about it. And that that was the Battle of Atlanta that allowed them to go on ahead and go to the Sherman, go to the Savannah, and do all the destruction. So a lot of history there right there around that area. So Barnes has got a big deal going there in July. They're gonna have one of his big meetups for a couple of days going, and, they're gonna speak. Viva's gonna be there. There's a whole bunch of things going on. They've got scheduled. I've heard him mentioned. So, anyway, if you're in that area, you could still, sign up to participate in some of those shindigs. Yep. I need to get ahold of my friend Harvey. I don't know if he would or not, but, boy, he would enjoy all those people. He's right in right in their, right in their pocket, ideologically.
So was there anybody in the audience that had something they wanted to discuss today? Or do you want Mark and I and the group, and we'll we'll every now and then, we'll let Paul in, but to discuss things? Yeah. Okay, Paul. We have just one of those every now and then.
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K. Alright. And now give me one second. I hear you. Thank you for joining us for the radio range with Roger Sales. Press 6 to mute or unmute. And if your line is locked, dial 941 to raise your hand. Welcome.
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Hi, y'all. Happy Saturday. Thanks for being with us. Roger? There we go. Yes, sir. Okay. Good. Now we got some communication going. We're all Was that Rick? Who was that?
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Yeah. Brent's right. There were pockets of, union sympathizers all over the South. Do you know who the personal guard for Sherman was as he marched to the sea?
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I do not.
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The first Alabama cavalry unit.
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Wow. Is that right? And, of course, as as much as I hate to admit it, you you know you know where Sherman was before they got him back in the army. Right, Rick?
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No.
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He was the first chancellor of LSU. Drafted him right back in there, and he did. Now there's a, there's a town down there. I mentioned it. I was it? It's not Monroe. It's on the way to Savannah. I mean, not Savannah, to Augusta. They're on 20, and it was his roommate was from it's not Monroe. Madison? Madisonville, I believe. Madison.
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Madison. Madison.
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Madison, Georgia. Sherman's roommate at West Point was from Madison, Georgia. And when he was going to Savannah, he totally bypassed Madison. He wouldn't let his soldiers ravage it. So it's right off of the interstate there. And you can go see all the old houses antebellum houses and all that were still left. Horrible time in our history. Just horrible. But I didn't know that, Rick, until, Brent said that yesterday. I've never heard that before. I was kinda surprised. And it was all that chat Chattanooga to Knoxville and Sevierville and all through the Appalachians there, I guess, is that area and on up into Kentucky from what he said.
Okay. There's 47 folks in the audience. I guess we've reconnected with you. Maybe, Paul, whatever Paul did. Do are any of you new with questions or you have questions or comments or anything? Because the Saturday show really is for you. But we can get on here and talk about all this other stuff, and we like doing it, but we don't want to do it at the forsake of ignoring you. K? So if you've made a special time to be with us today and you've got some of those, please come forward with them. Roger. There's one. I don't yes, sir. Hey, Larry. Good morning. Are you working today? Good morning.
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Yep. I'm in my truck making deliveries. Wow. Hardworking
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guy, Larry. Alright.
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I got sixty hours in right now, and I got a few more hours to go. Okay. You don't get taxed on your extra hours anymore.
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Oh, you don't get taxed on it anyway? Yeah.
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I don't get taxed anyway. Yeah. Hey. I was Yes, sir. I was relistening to the to the show yesterday. Yeah. I mean, that thing was packed with a lot of stuff, and I've been taking notes. And one of the things that Brent said, was equity acts against persons and law acts against things. And I was wondering if you agree with that and if you would elaborate
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I I can. Give some examples, Roger. Have you ever heard that before? I I I I can't. Maybe Mark can. Did you and Mark probably wouldn't listen yesterday. He did make that statement. I caught it too. Actually, it registered with me, Larry. Said equity is against persons and common law, I guess, is against things. Do you have any comment on that?
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No. I don't don't quite understand what he was saying there.
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And he specifically said common laws against things. Well, I I the first the one I remember is that, equity is against persons. I don't remember the rest of the phrase. I think well, what do you wanna elaborate a little more and clear up my jaded memory here, Larry, please?
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Well, he he didn't use common law. He just said law.
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Okay. Well, my dad was against things. Alright. I'm probably right. So, anyway, that was the statement yesterday. I thought it was interesting too. We might could, further query mister, mister common law Winters next Friday. But, yeah, I'm gonna bring it up. It was a good along with a couple of other questions. Yeah. Well, you've always got questions for Brent. And he likes it because he comments on how much he likes it. So, yeah, he'll be back next Friday. We can get him to elaborate on that. I did catch it also.
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Anything else? Sorry? I don't that doesn't make sense to me because typically when we think of equity, it does involve property. So I don't I don't understand his statement. I I'd I'd love to hear him, you know, be drawn out of that and do
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do an explanation. Alright. Well, maybe next Friday, if we can remember, we'll get that done.
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So I don't know if he's talking about equity law or equity jurisdiction.
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I I don't know. I don't either. And I've never studied those fine points on that kind of stuff, Larry. So I'm sorry to tell you I have a little bit of ignorance in this spot right here.
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Yeah. Well, you know, I'm a
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A little functional illiteracy
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is probably a better way to You know how I know I'm pretty smart about this kind of stuff? Because everybody says I'm full of it.
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I've had I've I've I've had people say that about me and call me really many, many ugly names. I've been called many ugly names. I bet. So, you know Hey, Roger. It's William. I guess, sir. Hey, William. Hey, man. All good. Here we go. We got another session here. Hey, William. How are you doing?
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I'm good. How are you? Good. You guys were talking earlier about the smallest state and the allegiance, and the nationality, being a a national. I I did a little bit of a dive on that, a couple months ago because, you know, the the code says it's a permanent allegiance to a small estate. And a few I like that. A few, yeah, a few, law websites for us that they do, I guess, like, citizenship law and and and help people get citizenship and and all that. But, a few of the websites that I'd come across said that nationality was innate, and it was permanent.
So, if you were born in Saudi Arabia,
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you were Saudi nationality for your entire life. That that that didn't change. Your citizenship could change, but your nationality couldn't. Well, you can give away let me ask you a question. And the other way to get out of this is to go through the, the state department and literally change passports with countries. And it's a very formal process. Cost you about 4 or $5,000. Take you about six months now to get through it, and you have to have the other country's passport before you start the process or at the end of the process. Whatever. You gotta have the other country's passport, and then they take yours and you're not a citizen of The United States or a national anymore. You're a whatever that country is. So that I don't believe they're totally correct on that, whoever your base sites are, if they don't understand that. And I, I can't the word escape. I think I think,
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you know, this this this one place where they say that all US citizens or US nationals flies in the face of that because, you know and I think they had to do that to make this scam work. They did. Because because, you know, you're if you're born somewhere in the territorial jurisdiction of a country, then then that's your nationality, and that's what it is for life. And, I mean, you can change citizenship, but you can't you you'll always be a national. I'll always be a, you know, USA national.
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Well, let let's look at under underneath your that's there. It's covered up and it's hidden. You have to access it in a specific way. Why did they do that? See, there's the problem they had is what, if you look at the totality of the scheme, the most important part is you answering those two questions. Yes. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Notice they never say resident of any state. They just say resident. Right. Okay? And so, that is where they get your agreement to that you're okay with the fact they put you into this voluntary servitude thing at birth without your knowledge as a surety for this debt in the bond market.
That and that's why they had to do all this shenanigans to collapse and put both, overcome Plessy v Ferguson where both the statuses were prominent, Jim Crow being an example for decades, and reduce them and down to they got Brown versus Board of Education. Now I was listening to something yesterday, and Brown v Board came up, and I forget the interview. But they said, well, that's when the whole civil rights, thing started was with Brown v Board. So see, it was a really pivotal case for them to do. They collapsed Plessy down to just citizen of The United States. That's reflected, I believe, in that certificate of noncitizen nationality where it says they're both the same.
K? Alright. That's a reflection of that. But then they only ask you one side of the question. They ask you a leading question. Are you a citizen of United States? They don't say or national. To me, that's the first layer of the fraud.
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What I would like to see is if if somebody that was that had expatriated, basically, you know, sue the state department, and it says right there that a national is per nationality is permanent. Yeah. And they only issue passports to nationals and citizens. So Right. You know, why could why couldn't you sue and say what it says right here, my nationality is permanent. I was born in the territorial bound piece of The United States.
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You've got to issue me a passport. Well, what about if okay. What about if you didn't know about your nationality? You were still a citizen of United States like one of our listeners that went over and, what is that word? When you change passports, I'm I'm I'm blanking on it. I thought that explains. Can somebody help me here? When you change country
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Expatriation?
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Expatriation. Thank you, Lisa. When you expatriate, we had a listener call in one day that had done that with Switzerland. Married a Swiss gal. His daughter was a citizen of The United States. She lived over there, and he literally had gone through the expatriation process. And then he found us. And the problem he had was it was during COVID, and his mother was still living. And he wanted to go visit her, and he couldn't get back into The US. If he'd kept the US citizen, he could have. But because he's a patriot and he's a Switzerland citizen, now he had to have the jab to get back in The US. And he went to the state department and tried to argue with him. I don't know whatever came out of it. I don't know that he came back and told us. But, that would be a good grounds to approach that on right there. But you would have had to but but hold on. You would have had to have done the change and had your US nationality so that you could claim it. If you haven't gone through the status change, you wouldn't be able to claim it because you never did before.
And and then, then you're, and if you had done that and switched over to a national, you'd never given that up. Alright. Hold on just a second. Let's get with my I wanna make sure you understand all that.
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Yeah. That makes sense. I think it would be if somebody if somebody would hold the feet, you know, their feet to the fire and say, it says permanent right here. What you why can't you issue me a passport that But but
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she didn't come I see what you're you're saying. My question is, you can't claim that unless you've claimed it already. So if you haven't claimed it, you don't have access to it. It's just like the guys with Jones saying, we own your name. And he goes, no. That's involuntary servitude. And thirteenth amendment.
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The nationality access that this US citizens are US nationals. Well, I know. But you've got
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Michael. But you can't well, you can't just pop up and say I'm a national. You gotta file something with the secretary of state to officially get that title.
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Okay.
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Okay? I see that. So you can't that's why nobody in our patriot community has ever, to my knowledge, I'll ask Mark, nobody has ever, to my knowledge, been successful at claiming jurisdiction at the district court level or the state level and getting it recognized.
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I have I have Roger. Always had issue. Sorry. I've I've always had issue with that all US citizens are US nationals. Because my understanding in their definitions is a US national is really the Samoans.
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Well, we're not all obviously, we're not all American Samoans. They're not even US citizens. They gotta naturalize to be US citizens.
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I know. That's where that statement is so misleading.
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Because they combined. That's because they crushed Plessy versus Ferguson down into Brown versus Board of Education. You'll hear these, all these senators or some of these congressmen, they go, oh, and Brown versus Board of Education overturned the evil Plessy. Well, Plessy wasn't evil. It was just a statement of political statuses. So, yeah, there's a lot. Yeah. Alright. Okay. Mirca. Mirca.
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Just just to make a distinction, we are putting in our affidavit to remove ourselves from the United States corporation. We are United States Of America. And on the passport, if you look on the, the message from the secretary of state where, it tells them not to hinder our traveling. It has citizen slash national. It doesn't say US on it. It says citizen slash national. So we are the America United States Of America national, not The US national because United US is United States corporation. So we need to remember that.
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And that's that that's where our power is. Well, we're gonna work. In Girat and out girat or something like that. What I'm doing. That's the penalty of perjury. It's called a girat, and you got that. Hold on, Dave. Got it in title twenty eight seventeen forty six, I believe, is the section. It's right there plain as day. And the first time they use that language that I ever saw and have still ever seen is in the slaughterhouse cases. And they're talking to the white French butchers. He said, you're complaining.
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Interesting.
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Yeah. But they come and use that within and without language, and now they carry it over, and it's in The United States code. Now what, Michael?
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No. This is William. I was just saying it was, yeah, it was interesting, like, on pilot certificates, or pilot licenses. We can you don't have to be a US citizen to get a US pilot license. And so it asks you in the application what your nationality is, and your nationality is printed on your pilot certificate US pilot certificate. So there could be a Chinese national with a US pilot certificate, you know, under the agreement under the ICAO to operate in China with a US pilot certificate as a Chinese national. Uh-huh. Because a lot of them will come here a lot of them will come here to train because they don't have, you know, infrastructure for general aviation in China and these communist countries. So they'll come to The United States on an educational visa and get their pilot certificate, from The United States as a foreign national, and it prints that on your pilot certificate. What what I'm interested to to know is if somebody I mean, it asks you your nationality. It doesn't ask you your citizenship.
So if somebody, you know, had had changed to a US citizen from a Chinese citizen, let's say, they had they had changed their citizenship, but their nationality would still be Chinese on that question, that it seems like they would need to answer Chinese, not United States.
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Well, I would like to know if when they say a national and and they do, like, on the Social Security of which country, do they have USA listed in that list? I think it is U yes. USA. Because that's what they print on the college certificate of USA. There it is right there. You're not a citizen of The United States. It's USA. You're a national. And they put that down there under, are you a national? Which country? And there's The USA as an option. It tells you right there. Yep.
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Yep. It prints it on the card, and then, you know, all all US citizens are nationals, so your nationality as a US citizen is USA.
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That's the way I understand. And and the only way it's really intricate right here in this area because this is at the final stage of their long plan takeover. They've got to go over and what's the most important thing they've got to do at that point is a, set up the IRS, which they did in '51. '54, we get brought Brown versus Board that overturned Plessy. And then again, sixty days after Brown, the 1954 revenue code pops into place. So they had to get that done so they could ask you that leading question, are you a citizen of The United States? And there's the fraud because it's lack of full disclosure. Because the reality is the question should be, are you a citizen of The United States or national?
And they leave out our national because it's a leading question, and it's fraud. It's another reason they have to, recognize this, Michael, because they've been caught in fraud. And if you peel that layer off, there's about 15 other layers underneath
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Right. A fraud a fraud. I'll I'll yield the floor. I just wanted to bring that up. Well,
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okay. Well, and I think that it you couldn't apply that. It here's the here's the dilemma. You could apply that if you had officially gone and become a national. But, otherwise, you've always volunteered that you're a citizen of The United States, so you can't serve two masters. You can't be both. You gotta be one. And the where their lick is is everything they do is under presumption law because they've asked you those questions your whole life and you always answered yes, telling them you give them your permission to govern you in that way, and that's what you are. And so, you've gotta overcome that presumption law or else they're gonna roll it forward. And the only way to do that is to submit some sort of paperwork to the secretary of state, either stating what you are or stating what you're not.
In other words, you could and we used to do this. We used to say, well, I'm not related to black slaves who who received federal citizenship after the civil war. Well, that's correct, but it's, oh, I don't even know where I was going. Anyway, it's a, it's a sticky little wicket right there, and, boy, it took me a long time to figure it out. And I don't know that I did until I saw that certificate of noncitizen nationality and that statement. That you can unravel it from that. But, boy, up to that point, it's not clear at all. Okay? So but that's a That's what they were saying was
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what you're saying is it's it's easier to prove they can't prove a they can prove a positive or disprove a positive. So you say,
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I'm not this. Right. It's easier than saying I am this. You know? What it does is if you suppose it as a negative, you put them in a unique position because it's virtually impossible to disprove a negative. Now that's the way we used to do this. And then I I figured, well, you know, it's so succinct. And then we saw that one statement out of that same document down at the bottom, with their disclaimer. I, Michael from Minnesota, do solemnly swear, I'm a national and not a citizen in The United States. So you can do it that simple, and that's when we started just switching to a affirmative.
The the problem with some of our people, Michael, is they wanna put all this stuff in their paperwork. I'm a this. I'm a pro pay and a a pro per and all this kind of stuff. The more statements you make affirmative, the more chance you give them to contest you. So that's the
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I'm a living man on the way. Please, please.
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Anna, go home. Go home. It's good. It's about summer in Alaska. Let's go home, Anna. Oh, okay. And straw man's starting to dance a jig back here. He's he's over there twitching, isn't he?
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Okay. Who's wanting to say about ready to whip out his gold fringe flag instead. Oh, god. Oh, god. We're
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doomed.
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Okay. Who was trying to say anything wrong? Know, all US citizens are dead. Right? That's right. Oh,
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yeah. Yeah. Go through the graveyard. It's all capital letters. Was that Samuel trying to say something? Who was that a minute ago? No. It was Dave. Dave. That's right. Five minutes ago. Hey, Dave. Circle back to me when you're down with Dave. Alright. Good morning. Yes, sir.
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So when you're when we refer to America or Americans, The U United States is an adjective. When we refer to US citizens, it's the 10 mile squared. And, if I remember correctly, I could be wrong. It's been a while since I, you know, heard it bantered about, but I thought American Samoans were noncitizen American nationals.
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Well, you could pay you could kind of They're American Samoans. Right? Well, they It's all playing words and it's Yeah. They they well, they can't be American nationals because they're not eligible to be citizens of The United States. They're just noncitizen
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nationals. I thought they were hiding the national behind Well, they are. They are. Citizen American national as
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the
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Samoan. Well, they are, but they're not the same. American Samoa and American nationals are not the same. We're both Oh, okay. One.
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But we're not noncitizen. They they don't consider us nationals as noncitizen. That's why they hide that in that. I thought that's what was discussed Well you know, when we were bringing all that up that, you know, they call American Samoans for a reason, and they call them noncitizen American nationals for a reason to hide the national
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behind it. But they don't call them that. They don't call them noncitizen American nationals. They call them noncitizen nationals. I could've swore it was American, but I've never seen that. You're not American national is us.
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They're US national.
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Very Well, they may be, and that that may they may assign that to us too. I don't know. It's a complex little area, and I don't know what they did exactly, but I know how to get out of it. And I know they recognize it. So
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A nanny poo poo.
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Part who what was coo coo? Sorry. I said, so nanny, nanny, poo poo. Oh, yeah. Well, they just We know how to get out. Area. So Okay. So, you know, you wanna go back and hash this out. We did about four or five shows contentious. Some of them were with Abram on this.
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Is a US national again. Is is a US
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thank you. Thank you, Mark. Is is a US national American Samoa? Are are we US nationals? And they're using that internally from the federal government to to identify us. And I bet if you put that down on your affidavit, it'd work. Okay. I'm so much wanting to act up here. But if just to be safe and sound and settle the argument, just use national. You know, I go back to the to the approach on this is the oath on the passport. I I do solemnly swear and dependently purgatory. I'm a citizen of The United States or a noncitizen national.
Okay. Well, there's two of the three. You've got the national, noncitizen national, and citizen of The United States. There's two of them in the oath. Which one did they hide the national behind? Non citizen national or US citizen? Well, if they say that they're both, then they hid it behind the US citizen, didn't they? Yeah. K. So that's the kind of the way I came to look at this. It doesn't make any difference. Just use national when you submit your paperwork if you're new. And this is a a really ambiguous little area right here, that US citizen person. Who is it? K?
Don't know, but use national, and you'll be safe no matter what the, what the, question is. Alright? Roger. Yes. There's Larry again. Yes, sir.
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Yeah. If if what you are teaching wasn't true, they wouldn't be issuing issuing a passport to you because, obviously, we have to include a copy of our affidavit. And if that was not true, they would not issue you a passport. Right. And I think there's a couple of students once in a while that get challenged, and then if they respond properly, like I helped the student with, they, they ended up sending the passport.
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They always. We've never had one of my except for Pageant's mother. And she couldn't contest it because she didn't keep a copy of what she included. You can't go back and challenge it if you don't have a copy of what you sent them. So that's the only case I know about where someone didn't get their documents they paid for. They, you know and what they're doing this is the question I have over that, Larry. What they're doing is just to test you and see how much you know. Like that guy that called Jerry from the passport department said, man, you really know your stuff. They're trying to see how much you know. And my question is, what about David Strait and Anavon Wright students that get those letters? How do they do?
Was somebody got a cash register there or something they're messing with? About empty box?
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Somebody's moving furniture.
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Sounds like it. Just remember, these microphones are very, very sensitive, and there's paperwork to it sounds like the start of money by Pink Floyd.
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That was Gary. I muted him. So Okay. Alright, Gary. You're muted. Was that our our Gary in Montana?
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Yes, sir. Alright. Big gear. Alright. How's him getting better, I trust him and Gina? Well, Gina wasn't sick. She was taking care of him. Okay. Where else? Somebody got some other observations or questions or comments on that. We're supposed to double back to Mark.
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I I gotta double back to Mark. I wanted to circle back real quickly and just kinda, tie or dovetail into what you were saying about a negative, proving a negative. Just proving a negative. Clearly remember this. It is a maxim of law that you cannot prove a negative. If I say I'm not something, I can't quote prove that. Now, it's a little different when we're talking about status or national nationality. But if I say I'm not a US citizen, it's the burden's on somebody else to prove that I am. And your affidavit really trumps all of that because none of them, none of the government officials, there's not a single person in the in the federal government or or anywhere in the states that can override your affidavit.
But let me go back and make it a little bit simpler. It's usually when we get into evidence in a court environment. If I say I don't have any grapes in my refrigerator, I can't prove to you that I don't have any grapes. You got to prove that I do. And so you're going to have to go over open up the refrigerator door and go there's the grapes. But it's a maximum of law that you cannot prove a negative. Let me give you a better example. If I said I never received a document that you think I have or or I'm not in receipt of any law that says I have to do this or it's against the law to do that.
Well guess what? The burden shifts to the opposing party to prove that I'm wrong. And this is why one of my early mentors Pat Patton, he said, you know, he got tired of writing books and sending them in and trying to educate the opposing party on why he's doing what he's doing. He goes, I just start asking questions now. You know, Hey, I'm not in receipt of any law that says I got to do this, you provide it. Well now he shifted the whole burden over to the other side and it reduces work dramatically. His, again, his statement was, I'm tired of showing them how smart I am. I wanna see how smart they are. And I tell you that that left a lasting impression on me. Twenty five years later, I'm quoting Pat Patton. So Yep.
You cannot prove a negative.
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So High yield. That's good. Thank you, Mark. Glad that I I'm just always really tickled to death to to have you along, Mark, because of your background, what you bring to the table. A little more practical application than me. I was, I went through paralegal school and stuff, but I I'll get you in just a second. But I never. It sounds like you got the daily wire in the background.
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No. That's the ticker tape on the stock market.
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Okay. Well, the stock market closed on Saturday, but they may have had to open the day. I don't know. Okay. I mean, I forgot what I was gonna say. Julie, oh, I I remembered it, but I'll try and get it later. Go ahead, Julie.
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Yeah. I wanted to ask, how does the IRS deceptively refer to nationals as nonresident aliens? Like, how does that apply?
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I'll tell you how it applies. It applies if you go back to Vatel's Law of Nations. You know about Vatel's Law of Nations, Julie?
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Yep.
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Okay. Pretty important document. The the the way all this started for the audience who may not know this, there was an agreement called the West the Treaty of Westfall. They refer to it as the Westphalian agreement. It was in the sixteen hundreds, about sixteen forty ish, I think. And that was when before that, like in Europe, which was the main part of the world back there, it was all big fiefdoms and and and feudalism on the land and the and the king of the country or whatever, and all the nobles beneath them owned the land in a feudal type fashion. Well, they formed all that into countries.
So it was the Westphalian agreement that started everybody being a country. And then if that was gonna be the case, they needed laws that all of them agreed to that they would follow, and that was Vatel's law of nations. And it was written about 1750, so about a hundred years later. And and when I first started this, one of the listeners, Julie, sent me the pages of Vatel on residency. Mark, have you ever looked at that, at Vatel's pages, two or three pages on residency?
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I don't think I have.
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Guess what he calls residents? Guess what he calls residents?
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I have no idea.
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Resident aliens. So if somebody were to ask you, Julie, are you a resident alien? What would you think? No. Because I'm a national resident alien. No. No. Not now. Back back when, no, not now. Back when you were functionally illiterate. If they were to ask you, are you a resident alien? I would have said yes. I would have probably said yes. But, yes, doesn't that term identify the way it's being used? You're a resident alien or you're residing here, but the alien means those are the laws you're living under. So Vatel is very accurate. See?
And and I think and I've stated it before. If you could go back etymologically, you could go back and do that study on the word and find out where they dropped alien. I think you'll find the origins of this plan because that's a key word in this whole thing is resident. Patel always called them resident aliens. So you're a nonresident alien. Does that make sense to you?
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Yep. Thank you. Okay. You know, I I think it's just my relationship to the federal government as a national. You know, I'm foreign to them. I don't owe them allegiance. I'm not a resident of the federal government or or the District Of Columbia. I don't owe them allegiance, so I'm an I'm a nonresident alien in relationship to the US federal government.
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Right. But if they would ask you that your whole life, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident alien? See, it's that alien word that throws people. That's why they had to get rid of it. So Yeah. It because it identifies the relationship. So now they ask you, are you a resident? What they're really asking you if you're new notice, as I said a minute ago, they never identify a state. Are you a resident of Minnesota or Washington or what? They never do that. They just say, are you a resident? Well, that tells you, when you think about it, there's a, there there's there's something gone wrong, gone south there. Okay?
Resident of what? Well, all they're saying is they're confirming, are you under the laws of Washington, DC? We touched on it, I think, yesterday or day before. And this, Mark, you know title 26 was never voted on by the senate or signed by the president. Right?
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Correct. That's correct.
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Okay. So what happened? Well, they bankrupted the federal government in the bond market, and they only put the federal government on in the condition. So it wasn't it was the con there was the the federal government didn't have a lot of control over states. They still say they're all they're autonomous to a large degree, and this is this bankruptcy thing that got them into that position as subdivisions of the federal government. But what they're really asking you so they run title 26 in. That's IRS, in case you don't know. They run title 26 in, and they only vote on it in the house. And then they end ends up in The United States code. Well, how did that happen?
It happened because it's just strictly the federal government. And they bankrupted the federal government. They brought in this agreement of the taxation system as you to help to pay the bankruptcy under this whole scheme, and they put it right in there, slipped it right in the code. You'll go find if you look at the front of the code, the 50 codes, there's a list of all the titles, and they'll have whether they're positive or nonpositive law. Title 26 is nonpositive law. It was never passed by both houses. It was never signed by the president. It only applies to Washington DC and its citizens.
That's why they ask you the two questions. Get your agreement that that code applies to you as a citizen of The United States or a citizen of the federal government in DC. That's the resident question tying you back to that. See how it's set up? Did I explain that well? Yep. Yep. So you look at all these little pieces separate, and you go, holy smokes. Well, this is exactly what they did. Yeah. And this is how they did it. Yeah, Samuel. Samuel, wasn't that you? This is Greg. Oh, hey, Gregory. I'm sorry. It's not unlike Samuel. Okay. Hey, Gregory.
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Well, he's not too far from me. Okay. Hey. It's it's good to hear everybody still breathing on the line. This is good news. But my question is, how can you have allegiance to any state or fictitious entity if your allegiance my allegiance is to the creator of all this magnanimous You you have your allegiance to the myself.
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Has all, representatives and stuff, so it's not totally illusionary. But you get your god given rights through that entity. That's why the important thing here, Gregory, is when you like, who's are you fixing breakfast now? Paul, could you find where that noise is coming from, please?
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It totally In fact, there's a free breakfast right up the road from me at at The Grange. They have it once a month, and it's real good food that they prepare. And you just go in there and and I mean, there's a lot of good stuff, but
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But, no, I'm not doing anything like that. Alright. Well, I'm trying to get back to your question here. So you're giving permanent allegiance, and, of course, I think you know where that comes from, the feudal system. Allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. Right, Gregory? That's the formula. It's ancient. It's in Supreme Court cases that Mark founded, Happersat v somebody. Okay? This is ancient. It's recognized as at least a thousand years old, probably older, 1,500 or more. Allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. Previous to this, when you file your paperwork, you were giving allegiance, unbeknownst to you, to the federal government.
Because the federal government, when you said you're a citizen of theirs, then they automatically owe you protection. So you automatically owe them allegiance. Well, that's changing when you file the paperwork here. You file a paperwork and say you're a national, basically, an all state citizen. Well, now your allegiance is not to the federal government anymore. It's switched over here to the state, and therefore, the formula changes. And the federal government doesn't owe you protection anymore. The state does. See, this is our teeth right here. It's that switch and that formula and that switch and those obligations.
Because now you're out front pledging your permanent allegiance to a small estate with this affidavit. Now they automatically owe you protection. And it's not anything they can choose to do, And it's not anything that that that there's any question. They've got to give you the protection. It's in this formula. It's automatic. It's unbending.
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So there's our team. But but if they don't
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Well, hold it. Let's get into protection. What's protection? Protection from what? Well, like, if, you're in California, Gregory, what if the people from Nevada are coming over to invade California? Well, they're supposed to have the militia called up to stop that. Okay? That's the protection they're supposed to give you. They're also supposed to give you the protection of things like traffic laws that are dictated from the fed and in the state. And if they pull you over, those laws don't apply to you anymore. And so, they've gotta give you that protection, but we don't get see them doing that, do we?
See, this is our teeth. Well, I'm go back hold on. You could go back and take them to court on negligence and and and, dereliction of duty because they've got an automatic duty to protect you from these things. And it's something that we just realized recently, year, year and a half ago, And we'd like to formulate and put into some kind of, notice type, paperwork because they need to know this. These people that are attorney generals, they don't know this stuff. They never learned it in law school. But that's what really is going on there. And that's you get your God given rights through your state because they don't give you the civil rights, the federal government under that status.
So the minute you change Gotcha. You've got access I'll get you a second, Lisa. You've got access to those god given rights. Lisa.
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And I'm just gonna I I just wanna say, I don't like how you worded that. That's all of I I don't get my god given rights from the state. I'm supposed to have protection
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of my god given rights from That's what that's another type of protection they're supposed to give you for those rights.
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It's just we're born with those god given rights. They're given by god. Well, you're not born with them. Obligated to protect them. Under this scheme,
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you're not born with them. You're born until your feet get out of your mother's birth canal, and then this is slapped on you. So you don't have you're a you're a national as long as you're not born. Yeah. Do you understand what I'm saying? Oh, hey, Gary. Do you understand what I'm saying, Lisa? Until your feet when your feet come out of mama, unless you're a breech birth, when your feet come out, you're automatically stuck in this scheme they've got you in. Esau Edom has already thrown that blanket over you. Beautiful. When your feet weren't out there. Yeah. Kinda. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Gary. Hey, buddy. Are you cooking at the restaurant or what?
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No. We the restaurant's closed. Okay. I'm back to doing my own construction thing. Okay. But, one point everybody seems to be missing, and that is you are considered alien to the state government because you are a resident of Washington DC. That has been ruled on by the Supreme Court. So, therefore, the states utilize the fact that you are alien to the states to tax you and everything else they do because you are not a resident of the state as a US citizen. You are a resident of Washington, DC. You must keep that paradigm in your mind.
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Well, remember Comment. The fourteenth amendment at the end says this, you're a citizen of The United States and the state wherein you reside.
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And the state US citizens reside in Correct. Is the Washington DC, period. The Supreme Court has ruled that. Okay. Well, I think that's to you.
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And, Gary, the code is 8USC11O13.
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We are It's right there. You're correct. It's right there in the code.
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Yep. Hidden very skillfully. Now alright. Alright. Uh-oh. Who's who's trying to say something right there?
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It's me again, Gregory. Yeah. Okay, Gregory. The way the state is protecting its citizens is deplorable. It goes beyond saying, why would I want protection from morons like Gavin Newsom and all those gruesome critters that, are running this Yeah. Fiasco, this fiction, this fraud. I I I just give my allegiance to my creator and screw all that other minutiae.
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All we're doing is a tech point. Well, what we're going over is technicalities and the way things are, they are. And if you wanna approach it like Gregory just said, you go do that. I don't care. I'm just telling you the technicalities of how this works. Capisce?
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Roger?
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There's Larry. Yes, sir. Capisce, and thanks to you, you've really helped open my eyes and and thank you all and over.
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Okay, Gregory. Well, you're welcome. Benada. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. Garrett, Newsom is supposed to be protecting, the students' rights. Sure. But he's not doing that. There's a dereliction of duty right there going on because there is there is an, there is a an invasion occurring in California, and he's not doing anything about it. That's why Trump had to intercede. Alright. Another thing is, I asked Sprint one day
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It's not occurring. It's not occurring. It has occurred. There are no more you know, there was last month in May, there was no border crossings. None. Zero. Zilch. Zippo. Go ahead.
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Yeah. On another note, they're they're holding up, the Mexican flags, all all of these rioters. They're not even protesters. They're I've been watching this guy named John Hicks, and he drives around on an ebike, and he goes and follows the police down there in Los Angeles. And he gets right into the middle of all the action with with, you know, reporting that's on the scene. And, these protesters, which are really rioters, they're they are destroying the town of Los Angeles, like certain sections, like Little Tokyo, for example, is all boarded up and destroyed with graffiti and damage and looting.
And, they they're not even protesting over at the federal building. They're just rampaging through the city, destroying it, and all of this is documented. But, anyway, I asked Brent the one day, what do we I read him the definition that that a, a national owes permanent allegiance to a smallest state, and I asked him what that allegiance is to or what does that mean in his mind. And he said that your allegiance is to the land, and that stuck with me, and I agree with that. True. I agree with that too. Yeah. And then another thing is a lot of students get hung up on permanence, like you owe permanent allegiance to a state. Permanence is only as long as you decide it to be.
If you're permanently domiciled somewhere and then all of a sudden you decide to move, well, really, permanence is only temporary. So it's kind of like a a technicality.
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I yield. You know, it's like a friend of mine said one time. All relationships are are temporary. Think about that. Okay. Well, that's probably true. I agree with that. And I think that's a good answer to Gregory's questions. Your allegiance is to the land. Once again, back to the land, and that's the state and its boundaries, etcetera, etcetera. Now California does at least give mouth service, lip service, because the attorney general, when you put them on notice, tells you that they pay attention or aware of their private citizens. What what's the exact verbiage of that, Merica? Something something are private citizens. We recognize our private citizens, etcetera.
So at least verbally, they say individual. Yeah. Private do what now? Give us the quote.
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It's the private individual. I have to go pull it up, and I can read it. Okay. I'll I'll come back right now. I thought it said private citizens, but private individuals. So they do recognize it, Gregory.
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May not. But, you know, Gavin's running for president, so everything may get thrown out the window.
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Hey, Roger. Yes. There's someone. Yes. Hear me? Yes. I hear you. Who is it? Hi. Hi, Roger. This is Ivana from Texas.
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Oh, hey.
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I have some I I have a couple of comments to make. So just, you know, about national US nationals versus nationals. The way kind of my mind works is I try to simplify things, and I don't see any, meaningful purpose to the word US nationals other than just it's there to just occupy space and confuse people. I agree with that. So yeah. And and so one clear place where I see, you know, just, things very clearly is where all the federal government gives Social Security number. Right? Go look up, congress.cuff and see who's eligible to receive Social Security number. Yes. And it'd be US citizen and nationals,
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period. It doesn't have US nationals. There
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is no mention of US national anywhere. So That's interesting. Yeah. So it's a US citizens and nationals, period. So everything else is a confusion.
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And that is a really confusing little thing out of this whole thing, and I've dealt with it for many years. That little little area we're talking about here is extremely confusing. Mhmm. And I don't know exactly what they're trying to get across. But without all of the discussion and everything else, unless you just really have a driving desire to find out what that is, let me just tell people to use national. That just settles the argument right there, period. But it is interesting, isn't it? Yeah.
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It's very interesting. And if, I wanna I wanna I wanna make a point here. You you described what they're using US National for and how they're covering nationality earlier. And and so as far as I have heard you, the first time that you actually made a reference to that sort of explanation was when you had that argument with, Laurel several sessions long with Abrams. And that's how it ended. To me, the benefit of all of that argument, it all led to that moment where you provided a mental clarity by using, this type of explanation by saying, who do you which one do you think they're using to cover with?
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That's the that's the question. That's the question right there, isn't it? That's the question. Yeah.
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And and when when you said that and it was like a veil was revealed, the veil was removed to my face. It's all they were to see. And I I I I I thank you for that. That Yeah. That was I it was a hard, hard, hard, hard, hard session.
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But at the end of it and that was what came out of it. And and, you know, with the exception of one time, we haven't seen Abraham since. Now he may be lurking out there, but that got him all bent out of shape. And he accused me in an email and not teaching the truth and all this stuff. Folks, I I teach you as best as I understand it. K? And and and so you give us suggestions and we all learn together and they're not even mine. They're together. Yeah. But you can't No. He throw the baby out with the bath bathwater, Abram. Sorry.
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No. He he came he came, he talked to us since he listened to you. He he listens to you, and he says he's in the background. And I really appreciated his questioning. And and I just wanna, I want if he's listening, I wanna thank him for that for that opportunity. He was it is through those,
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hard struggles that some of us actively get to see. And and what do you mean? That we need to discuss together. And what do you mean? What's the takeaway? Yeah. What's the real takeaway from this? Look how devious our enemies are in the lengths they've gone through to pull this off.
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Exactly.
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Okay. Project That would be very interesting. Hold on, Mirca. It'd be very interesting if someone like Mirca would write the people that, that write the laws of the Congressional Research Service and pose the question to them and see how they answer.
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Murphy would get to see. Interesting to see. And, the only thing is, Roger, Congress is not for United States Of America, the people. Congress is for the United States Corporation, District of Columbia. Well, not necessarily. I'm not interested in That's not totally true. They can pass congressional
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laws up there in the statutes at large that apply to us as long as they're constitutional. So that's that statement is not totally true. Another thing too, Roger, when I'm thinking about that, what you just said, is, like, it's still a man made law. We are under natural law. So it could be challenged. Well, we the as long as the man made law conforms to natural law and is constitutional, it it applies to us. If it doesn't and they alter it through agencies Mark, Mark, could just listen, please. Yeah. When they pass the law and it's constitutional and they pass it to agencies to reevaluate it and reinterpret it, no. They don't apply to us if it comes from an agency. Right. The exception That's eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b.
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Yeah. If they did it for the agency, it would be a a non positive law. Yeah. Another another thing that I noticed is it's always good to research and discuss it. Even if we talk about it here, You you always have to double check the the information and find the factual. And then if you do find it, then share it just like Abraham did. And that's what we were trying to, to, discuss that day was that United States is no longer us. We are not United States Corporation, which is District of Columbia. We are The United States Of America. Yeah. And I have that section that, from the attorney general, if you want me to read that section.
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Yeah. It just said it refers to the private citizens. What does it say?
[01:25:04] Unknown:
It's at the end of paragraph. Thank you for yeah. It says the, thank you for your correspondence to the office of the attorney general. We appreciate hearing from our citizens on matters of public concern. However, we are prohibited by law for representing from representing private individuals or privately or providing legal advice, legal research, or legal analysis to private individuals under any circumstances. So
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that's where they they do acknowledge the private individual. There's your recognition from the state of California. Now hold the son of a bitch's feet to the fire. You're not doing that. Also got the
[01:25:45] Unknown:
yeah. And I also got that acknowledgment letter from the IRS, receiving the citizenship status affidavit. So, I mean, I guess there's many ways that we can just make sure that they they do see it and acknowledge it. Not that we do need that acknowledgment, but, it's important You don't? To see that they do see that the difference.
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When you take your paperwork to the post office and the clerk either does a cert certified return receipt requested or you can ask them to stamp this to, cancel the stamp. That's what the terminology is. And they'll take a stamp out and boom. They they do the sample. The minute it's stamped at the post office, it's considered received in Washington, DC. Period.
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Okay. Like that?
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Garage.
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I'm gonna do a Wadhedism here.
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Well, yeah. That You say if,
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if Israel attacks Turkey from the rear, do you think Greece would help?
[01:26:51] Unknown:
Yes. I think it would. Oh my god.
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I I have I I have one more comment to make, to Roger. Okay, please.
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It's not about Turkey or Iran, is it?
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No. No. No. Still so it's recovering from Wahidism. Okay. So, what I was gonna say was I was just, what a couple one more comment. So I was just reading up just, again, appreciation of, your teaching. Okay. So I was reading as, you know, what were, you know, what how were I was kinda thinking, you know, what were documents, papers, constitutions written back in the mid eighteen hundreds? You you just kinda skim in through it, and I came across the Texas constitution from 1861. Mhmm. Just kinda skim in through it, and and it's bill of rights, you know, that preamble, bill of article, but then it goes on section. Now I get to section seven. Right? It says, the people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and possessions.
Right. The people shall be secured in their persons.
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Right.
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So personhood is like a dress you wear.
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Yes. It is. It's it's a rights and duties. It depends on where you get your rights and to whom you owe your correlated duties. Correct?
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It's it's it just
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hit me in their Their person. Personhood. So could they say that they're protecting you and your personhood of a federal citizen?
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Exactly. They can.
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And they can after you file their affidavit and put them on notice, then they can recognize you and your personhood as a state citizen, receiving your laws of God and not civil rights from the federal government.
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Yeah. So Gavin Newsom, as a franchisee, a governor of that franchisee from, Washington, DC, he's got the responsibility to take care of, to protect this, personhood of US citizen and the personhood of NASCLA.
[01:29:10] Unknown:
Well, I but you read the Texas constitution, but I think it would probably apply to mister Newsom. You can go back and read the 1849 California constitution where a lot of the goodies are.
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That's all I wanted to say. And now one more thing. One last thing I wanted to say is that Yes, sir. So, we're I'm taking I'm taking my whole family to, with our new passports to travel internationally. Yeah. Next weekend, we're gonna be going to Japan for for for a month. Wow. Yeah. If if we don't if they don't let us sit on this new passport, you know, we're gonna I hope you have an extra room in there. They yeah. They won't you won't have any problems. Now, are are you Japanese? Is that your origin? You're going back home from No. No. No. No. I'm not. I'm I'm from Ethiopia. I live in Texas. I originally in naturalized. And, but, no, I'm I'm going for business to Japan and making a vacation out of it. Boy, that should that will be a wonderful trip. Please
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give us all the details when you get back, and I doubt if you'll have any problems. Are the wife and the children, nationals also?
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Yeah. The kids, they're in their twenties. In their teens and twenties, they're kind of kinda wondering what what did did they're so we haven't we haven't gone through the education. They're kinda it's simmering,
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but my wife and I are nationals. Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. Well, please let us know how that is. That should be a delight. Are you gonna be in Tokyo most of the time, or are you gonna go around the island? Oh, we're gonna go around the island. Yeah. That would just be fantastic. Stay away from Fukushima.
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Yeah. We're we're we're we're gonna go to Hiroshima. That's one of my destinations. I would like to see what what happened there. Quite interesting. Yeah. So it was a little a little story. Yeah. A little story. So my father was a electrical engineer in the sixties and seventies. And, he was as part of his he worked for the government, and they sent him to to, to, Japan for six months for his, education. Mhmm. And he returned in late early eighties. He came home a changed person. He was completely different in his character, mannerism, and, and that left an impression on me.
So about Japan and their cultures and their, it's it was just that left a really deep impression on me. And so I'm very thrilled to take my family after all these years, to the same place and show what my father was. What a wonderful opportunity.
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Do you do you do you I have a question there very much. Okay. Hold on. You you are you familiar with Eustace Mullins, who he was? No. No. He he was one of the patriarchs of our movement. He wrote many books. Great long story behind it. But, anyway, he really exposed our enemies, and they hated him, tried to kill him a couple of times. But his biggest market in the world for his books was Japan. He was like a national hero over there, he said, when he go over. So, anyway, they're very open to, some aspects of what we deal with. FYI. Yeah. K? Mirka? Okay. Okay.
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And, Sonnet, do do you, you and your wife are nationals. You have children. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Two. Okay.
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Did you put in an affidavit for them too?
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No. They're they're, they're,
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older than 18. They're they're adult children. Well, that makes sense then. They're adult. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Sounds good that you answered the question. Thanks, John. Great. Well, when do you, you say next weekend you're going on this little social? Yeah. We're leaving on Saturday. We're leaving on Saturday. Yes. Hey, man. Well, listen in advance, if we don't get a chance to talk to you again, have a very safe and a wonderful trip. It sounds like a great trip. Are you flying to LA? Yes. Then to Japan? Are you going to Chicago over the pole? Or what route do you think? No. From Austin to Dallas and from Dallas Street to Japan. Yeah. Oh, wow. Straight. What's that? About eighteen hour flight?
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It's a 13. It's one of the new aircraft, Dreamliner.
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Uh-huh.
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So it it goes a little faster. I've done a seventeen hour one in the past and a longer one it is. Is that a is that a Boeing airplane? That's a Boeing one. Yes. The the one. Yeah. Okay. Well, I won't say anything. It's passive. It's a big boy. It's low. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won't I won't say good luck or anything. Okay? The entertainment system works.
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Oh, I'm sure it's a night. I'm sure it's a night. Thank you, Roger. That's it. You're welcome. You're welcome, miss Solomon. Listen. I hope I look forward to speaking with you. And and and and I I Hey, Robert. Yeah. I I I appreciate you, and thank you for all your teaching, Roger, and thank you for opening our eyes. And Oh, man. I'm so grateful for you. You know, I I appreciate the, the compliment. Thank you, and it's my duty. That's the way I always look at this. Yes. It's just and I hope many of you, take take these teachings the same way for yourselves and how you pass them on. Yes. What, there was a guy trying to say something there when a song Tom d? You're wrong. It was Tom was it Tom?
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Tom d, yeah, was waiting.
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Okay. So it's Carl.
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It's Carl. I didn't see Tom d pop up, Mark. I see Carl Schmidt and Danny Murphy. Oh, maybe maybe it's Carl then. Okay. Well, let's get Carl. Comment.
[01:35:08] Unknown:
Okay. Hey, Carl. Just a quick comment for the just a quick comment for the traveler. Don't let the TSA or other federalities take photos of your like, you don't need to. You're not you're not a citizen.
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Yes. Voluntary. Yes. Don't volunteer.
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That's all I have.
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Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Alright. Carl, who was behind Carl? Danny or Paul's got something to need? Alright. Hold on. Let's see if Paul's got something for us important. Paul? Well, I have something,
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with respect to Mirka's letter, but we can get back to that. I think it's Danny.
[01:35:52] Unknown:
Yeah. It is. Danny. In there. Hey, Danny. It's Christian, your buddy Christian with us today. No. Wait. What? Is your buddy Christian with us today?
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No. I was looking. I I haven't been able to get a contact with him the last few days. Okay. Well, hopefully, he's on the line. Rings, but, he doesn't answer. Oh, that's Yeah. Well, a little bit more perfect perspective on the meaning of state where you're looking at it in a way you're using it. You know, you gotta look at context. Where is this coming from? It's immigration nationalization act. So what what are they talking about for nationalization? Anybody ever, a naturalization? Did anybody ever move from Colorado, and or try to get naturalized by the federal government from Colorado. No. So they're not talking about just one of the 50 states there.
Their state is a more general term for, like, Brazil because you get a different set of relationships internally and externally.
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Oh, man. If you're in You're in your Colorado, you can't get naturalized. Is that what you told me?
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Well, I'm saying if if you're born, raised, and been there at Colorado, are you gonna be applying for naturalization with the federal government? Of course not. You gotta come into the country and request So they're talking about so they're talking about to in general, foreign countries. Of course. So if you're in Or or what's the exception? Danny, what's the exception? Or
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American Samoa.
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Okay. But if you're in Brazil and you have some kind of problem coming up, you don't contact your home state to help you out. You contact the US State Department because that's what the state of Brazil looks at and deals with is the state of The United States. Okay. You're you're you're confusing me on this. Okay?
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So let's try and clarify what you're saying. Alright? If you're a naturalized person that came from Brazil and got naturalized
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No. That's not what I'm saying.
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I'm trying to clarify what you're saying. Okay? Cause you're mixing metaphors here. You're saying if you were born and raised in Colorado, you couldn't be naturalized. No. Cause you were born into citizenship there. If you're American Samoan, you've got to go through the naturalization process because at birth you're a non citizen. If you're from Brazil, you've got to come in and go through the naturalization process and voluntarily claim those civil rights. You wouldn't be beholden to Brazil anymore because you'd be a resident a citizen and a resident of The US. So you'd be beholden to US, laws, not not Brazil.
Okay. That's not at all what I was talking about. Well, I couldn't understand what you're talking about. That's the best I could come up with. You wanna try Start over.
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Start over and set up your scenario from the beginning.
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State state being used as used in the immigration naturalization act is more general than this one of the 50 states. It's any organized government around the world. So you're traveling outside the country and you're in Brazil It'd be a counter. You have some trouble coming up. You don't contact your home state. You contact the US State Department to help you out. Of course. But once you get but once you get back home, the relationships, are are different between the states you're in and the, federal government. Because now you got, like you said, each of the 50 states are foreign to the, United States, which is the federal government.
And so there's a different set of relationships. There's also, like, agreements and things that were done with, reconstruction that that defines what those relationships are. So state, as used there, is is more general than just one of the 50 states, although they qualify. But, you know, each of the country recognized countries around the world have their own state,
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and that's this kind of state that it's talking about there. The other problem the other countries have is they don't have two clear cut delineated political statuses. They've only got one to my knowledge. We've got both because of the fourteenth amendment. They've only got one. In other words, from Argentina, there was only Argentinians. There weren't Argent The there wasn't another status. They were Argentinians. There wasn't an option for them to get out because that that status was never there. And it's the same all over the world to my, understanding.
So I I don't know what or I can't get what you're trying to get across, Danny.
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That's the meaning of state
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the meaning of state where you're taking it from the immigration naturalization act is more general than one of the 50 states.
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Oh, okay. It's capitalized probably. It is in the, in in the instructions on that state department page. It's capitalized. The small the state our states are small, small, case. That's the way they differentiate them.
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Okay. What what what type of state is France?
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That's a capital s state.
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Well, I don't know. I think in the Declaration of Independence, right there in, like, about the final paragraph or so, they had to sever ties with the state of Great Britain. And I don't remember if that's upper case or lower case, but, Well, I don't know.
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That's the time They they they can't organized. And I know this is like US citizen. We're worming down in one of these things. Couldn't you just accept that it's small s state as a state and the others are capital s? We're not dealing with France. We're dealing with the federal government. And I don't know. And some of these things Yes. There's consistency.
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Well, internally, but it's immigration and naturalization act. Yeah. Okay. And that was passed expecting to deal with foreign countries more so than one of the 50 states.
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Correct. But because we're alien, they had to figure it in qualify. But because we're alien to the federal government just like France is.
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Yes. So that's the reason we it qualifies as as a state in that meaning, but it means more general than that in the use through using of it. We get to use it that way because that's where we are. But, just the general meaning of state basically means an organized government for some
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country. Political body.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So the the 50 states qualify for that, but it's more general than just the 50 states. And the way I hear people discussing it, it sounds like, well, it means one of the 50 states and not the federal government. Well, yeah. But it's a little actually, a little bit more general than that. We're using it more restricted because we're internal to the boundaries of The USA.
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If you're external to the boundaries of The USA, then they're dealing with the state there. Well, I appreciate all that, but let me see if I can make a point, Danny. I've been striving for many years to simplify things. And when discussions like this or The US citizen thing come up, all we're doing is complicating the issue to me because I think on the surface, it's very clear cut, and it works. And the bad part, the backlash is if you get into this kind of discussion, if you got any new people out there, you've lost them. Okay? So that that's my comment. I I still don't understand the point you're trying to make.
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That the state as it's being used from the place that you're taking it means something more than just one of the 50 states.
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Which one? Capital state or smallest state or both?
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Smallest state because it's immigration and naturalization there. That was put there mostly for dealing with foreign countries
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and people coming from there. But they knowing that this status is in the background have to incorporate it into the act. That's where in the our you know, I mean, I don't know how much simpler to show you. Certificate of noncitizen nationality under the statement, they break down the INA, the same piece of legislation you're talking about, and that's where the statement is, a a national has permanent allegiance to a small s state. Down about two paragraphs or so, they identify a federal state, Puerto Rico, Guam, etcetera, and they're capital s. That one's small s. That's what we deal with. If it's another country around the world, they need to go deal with expatriation through the state department and not us because we're repatriating back to that alien state of Iowa or Nebraska or whatever.
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Well, I'll just try to make people aware of this so that they don't perhaps use it use it wrongly.
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Well, a a a small s is state, and the capital s is a federal of territory. I don't see any confusion there. I think it's pretty clear cut and and defined just by looking at one small case, the other is capital large case.
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Is that that's where we deal with is why is it in the immigration and naturalization act? No.
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What? The call which one?
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Which one what?
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What you just said is because it's in the act immigration naturalization act. Which one? Small s? They're both in there.
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Well, you're saying small s, but if they got a list of the federal states
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Yes. And they're capital s.
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Okay. What is Brazil?
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Well, I don't know. I'm not dealing with Brazil. They gotta come in and get naturalized before I can deal with it.
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The state department deals with Brazil. Okay. That US state department. Well,
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where does that come into what we do? I can't take somebody from Brazil Yes. And get them free until they get naturalized. They gotta go through that state step first, and I have nothing to do with it. Why does that interest me or confuse me?
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It's just that the state, as the federal government passed this act, is more general than just the 50 states. Okay. But the 50 states qualify as one of those.
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No. The 50 states don't qualify as a capital s. They're small s.
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I'm not saying they qualify as that. I'm saying that's the state.
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Okay.
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Does anybody have a a comment or a question or anything? Has to do yeah. It has to do with citizenship. The United States State Department of DC and, the other countries that have the passport agencies handle, the the citizenship. Yes. It's a deeper dive on the state, but it's not as basic for new students that are learning about national status, and that's something that you would learn after a while. And listening to you guys talk, it sounds like Abbott and Costello.
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Well, I try I'm just trying to say okay. So Danny's bringing in Brazil, which never comes into our our focus here Because somebody from Brazil or Africa or wherever has got to come in and go through the naturalization process before we can even talk to them, before we can help them at all. So to really, it has no bearing on what we do here, Danny. It may be an interesting question to you. It seems to be confusing to me and other folks, but I don't see the bearing it has on what we do here. Curious, maybe, but what's the bearing on what we do? There is none. They've shed that before we can help them.
Are you with me, Danny? I mean, I'm not I'm just trying to say I I guess I see what you're saying, but it doesn't have anything to do with us. Point of view.
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Yeah. I'm seeing that from your point of view, yes, you're trying to deal with people who are Americans to deal with the, federal government and get free of, restrictions of it. Alright. I'm just saying that the nomenclature.
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Well, you know, to it's confusing enough without bringing that in. Can I tell you that bluntly?
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Well, it's sort of it's sort of like saying that that red squirrels and gray squirrels are mammals. And then
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leaving people to think that Well, I don't all mammals are red squirrels or gray squirrels. I can't deal with that squirrel over there until he comes over in our squirrel pack. When he's in our squirrel pack, I can talk to him. Whatever the state department in their nomenclature identifies his former state at, quite frankly, I don't give a damn. It doesn't have anything to do with what we do. It's just another thing to distract people or or yeah. It just doesn't do with what what we do. So I appreciate the question. Is does anybody have any comments on this dialogue here?
Bori was trying to say something. Okay. Bori, you got you got a comment?
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Yes, Roger. I believe that what he's saying that, I believe that what he's saying is that people that come from Brazil don't have to deal with the state. They deal with the, federal government because the federal government needs the one in charge of the residency. Now what he's asking is if Brazil and the immigration naturalization
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act is a capital s state or a small s state. Isn't that what you're asking, Danny?
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Yeah. It kinda yeah. It kinda comes to that. Okay. Well, what difference does it make?
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This would be my response. Well, just using it correctly is all I'm talking about. But we don't though, it doesn't matter. We don't deal with anybody like that. We only deal with them after they've come in naturalized.
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Well, I wouldn't talk about that at all either.
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Wow. Okay. Well, listen. Let's not please, let's stop this if we can. No no insult to you. It's just I can't even understand what's the conversation in the last ten minutes. K? So can we go somewhere else? Roger? Yes, Larry. No. No. Did you understand what he was saying, Larry? Me. Well, you didn't say anything. No. I I I didn't I didn't understand it at all. Okay. Well, you and me both. Paul?
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Yeah. I wanted to circle back a minute to that letter that got. Can you read that again?
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Let me see if I can find it. Hold on a sec. Okay. So it says, we appreciate hearing from our citizens on matters of public concern. However, we are prohibited by law from representing private individuals or providing legal advice, legal research, or legal analysis to private individuals under any circumstances. That's the part that acknowledges the private individual.
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Okay. But but you had one that you had said before, long time ago that, we appreciate our private
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citizen. No. It says we appreciate hearing from our citizens on matters of public concern. So they're just acknowledging in general everybody.
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If I remember, I thought they identified private citizens or private individuals or something somehow in the first response. Yeah. Just private individuals on there. Okay. He they acknowledge that I am a private individual,
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and they appreciate hearing from theirs from citizens on matters of public concerns. But they can't give legal advice.
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We can't give legal advice, and that's good because we don't want your legal advice. Go ahead. Right. Exactly.
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Right. Well
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My question I wasn't
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I wasn't, sending them anything of public concern. They just they just kinda throw that in there kinda like the blood flutters. And it's just an acknowledgment of receiving my affidavit and acknowledging that I am a private individual. I am not a US citizen.
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Right. And that's that that would have been a nice response back to them. They could put that in your file and further solicit my I did I did send them I know. I'm saying this for everybody else. I'm saying this for everybody else. Oh. Something like that, you can reply to that, and they have to keep it in your administrative file. You answered something they sent you that was an answer to something that you sent them. All that's in the file. Should you ever need to clarify your position and you get into one of those ugly situations, you can call on that and bring that in as evidence that they recognized you and you responded.
And then the correspondence stops, so that means they agreed with it. Right? Well, that means they consent to it. Right. So these are the little things you could call them. You could call them tie downs. You just do another little little loop knot on them. Boop. Yeah. But but what what I am saying is
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doesn't that almost go all the way to saying that they cannot deal with private citizens?
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They can't represent them. Well, I'm sure so. Well, no, but they've gotta protect them. That's part of the agreement. That's But, see, these are the things they don't know. I mean, I'm certain that you could query maybe the guy in Texas might no different. He's about the smartest one, all of them. But none of them would know. Say, what's freedom for, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance? Why aren't you protecting me? They'd look at you like you were a ghost.
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Yep. The main thing is the attorney general understands the law, and they know the difference between private and public citizens. Uh-huh. And they they need to not just like the passport says, do not hinder their traveling.
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Well, in our on our side, because they got appointed to that position and accepted it. Right? They get appointed. They they're not elected, I don't think. Attorney generals are elected. I thought they're, no. They may be elected in some states. Okay? Whatever. However they got in that position, the minute they took the position and started acting in it, now the phrase is known or should have known. And if they did not know before they got your notice, then they have a duty to find out, don't they? Known or should have known. Right. Ignorant of the lost notes. It goes right with their position. They took that responsibility on when they accepted the position.
Right? Do you see what I'm saying? I do. If you we are I don't know about this. We're gonna send it over to our, our campaign office. Well, you don't do that, ma'am. You you Right. You're the attorney general. I just alerted you of something that's in The United States code that's constitutional. So you now got a duty to respond and know or go find out.
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Okay? That's more It's more governed to govern his agents.
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He's governing his agents. Correct. Do you put all of them on notice, and they've got to all know or else when they take an action against you that's unwarranted, they expose themselves and they lose their cloak of immunity. This is our teeth at the state live level right here. And something I had never even really thought about until, well, one day it came up in discussion here on the show about a year, year and a half ago. I thought, wow, now that should be in some sort of a memorandum of law that we can submit to these attorney generals. Some but maybe one of these days we'll get around to writing it. But it really is our teeth, see? And it all goes back to they owe us automatically.
Just like they do against us, it's a reverse. When we file this affidavit, it reverses the former agreement with the feds. We didn't know we were in that. Well, now we do. We're switching it over here to the states. Well, they don't know what this is all about. Well, they need to because they got a duty to find out because they're the head law official in the state.
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Capisce? Their their laws and regulations are for their employees, government, military, and subjects.
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Those, those under their jurisdiction US citizens and residents. Yep. Those who are under their jurisdiction and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, I'm not subject to the jurisdiction of the feds anymore, and I've switched it over here in the state, owes me protection. So, yeah, it's a different ballgame. And there we've really got some power here, folks.
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Protection meaning they need to abide by their laws, and they need to not or trespass.
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You well, you've got your former you've got your former federal government with their traffic laws and all that crap, and they're helping them force them. Well, they're overstepping their boundaries if they do it on you. Right.
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They're exceeding their jurisdiction.
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Exceeding their legal their, duties and responsibilities.
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And then it's legal.
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Alright. Well, there's the yeah. Oh, yeah. It's legal. Remember, what we do may not always be lawful, but it will always be legal. There it is. Okay. Okay. Well, the sun's coming out here finally. And I hope, you found your two hours spent with us today of of some of some benefit to you. If you were new and you're still just riding the Erie, as they say, whenever you're ready to come forward, you just come forward. We'll talk to you. And, otherwise, Nat, good discussion. And, I trust that you got something out of it. We'll be back again, of course, Monday morning with John Casarum, hopefully.
And, you guys have a very nice weekend, abbreviated as it may be. Anyone with any closing comments? Okay. I Yes, sir.
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Have you seen have you heard,
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Trump say, you know, birthright citizenship is for slave babies only? I did. I heard him say it twice. I just what I was talking to Mark about earlier. I just about fell out of my chair. And, of course, he's using so what the hell is everyone else gonna be? He's using it totally wrong. Wow. And and when we hear him say it, we know exactly what he's talking about. When did he say that? I need to capture that. Yesterday was in the press conference that he gave in the afternoon on all the, Supreme Court cases. That's where I saw it. And, yeah, twice he says it. The fourteenth amendment is for the children of slaves.
Are you well, it's still for the children of slaves.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm waiting I'm waiting for that reporter that's gonna stick his neck out and say that what? Why the hell are we all citizens?
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Well, we're getting closer to it, folks. You know, it's slow. And, and it's a little baby step at a time, but we're getting closer to something meaningful happening with this information. I mean, it's meaningful when it touches all of us and what we've been able to build. But I mean meaningful in the fact of possibly affecting change to some degree. Man, would I relish that day. So, anyway, what else? Somebody got another question? Alright. It's my weekend. I gotta go, Roger. Hope everybody has a great day. Mark. I thought you'd already left, buddy. Have a great weekend. Okay? And we'll see you next week. We'll see some of the rest of you Thanks. On Monday or whenever.
Have a great weekend. Love each and every one of you, and, we'll see you soon. Danny, I hope you are able to get ahold of Christian. That sounds concerning a little bit. So, anyway, we'll Roger. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. Would you say that the Little Rock nine conflict is a good recent example showing how the federal government gives protection to US citizens?
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You're gonna have to refresh me on the Little Rock Nine. I don't know about those. Was that the nine black people nine black people that were real? It was there was a a group of, females,
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black students in Yes. Arkansas. Right. And they were they were not being allowed to attend a school. Yeah. See, I think the year was trying to find the year. I have the article here. Oh, god. Arkansas governor Orville Faubus
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enlists the National Guard. Oh, shit. That was what led FA. Well, that's what led up to Brown versus Board, wasn't it?
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Well, yeah. Yeah. Listen to this. Orville Faubus enlists the National Guard to prevent nine African American students from entering Central High School in Little Rock. The armed Arkansas militia troops surrounded the school while an angry crowd of some 400 whites jeered, booed, and threatened to lynch the frightened African American teenagers who fled shortly after arriving. Faubus took the action in violation of a federal order to integrate the school. The conflict set the stage for the first major test of the US Supreme Court's unanimous nineteen fifty four decision in Brown versus Board of Education of Topeka that racial segregation in educational facilities is unconstitutional.
That's a problem. Decision, which brought
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what's that? Bob brought us that day because it he said we passed a commit a a memorial in Kansas about Brown versus Board of Education. I thought it all started in Little Rock, but it was actually over in Kansas. Go ahead. That's what that comment referred to. Yep. Go ahead.
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The the historic decision which brought an end to federal tolerance of racial segregation specifically dealt with Linda Brown, a young African American girl who had been denied admission to her local elementary school in Topeka, Kansas because of the color of her skin. And then it goes on to it goes on to talk about well, there's an 1896. In 1896, the Supreme Court ruled in Plessy versus Ferguson that separate but equal accommodations in railroad cars con conformed to the fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of equal protection. That ruling was used to justify segregating all public facilities, including elementary schools.
However, in the case of Linda Brown, the white school she attempted to attend was far superior to her black alternative and miles closer to her house. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People took up Linda's cause, and in 1954, Brown versus Board of Education of Topeka reached the Supreme Court, African American lawyer and future Supreme Court justice, Thorngood Marshall, led Brown's legal team. And on 05/17/1954, the high court handed down its decision. In an opinion written by chief justice Earl Warren, the nation's highest court ruled that not only was the separate but equal doctrine unconstitutional in Linda's case, it was unconstitutional in all cases because educational segregation stamps an inherent badge of inferiority on African American students.
A year later, after hearing arguments on the implementation of their ruling, the Supreme Court published guidelines requiring public school systems to integrate with all deliberate speed. One more two more sentences. In 1957, the first major confrontation over this decision came when African American students attempted to integrate Central High School in Little Rock after governor Faubus surrounded the school with Arkansas National Guard troops, a showdown with federal officials ensued. On September 24, president Dwight Eisenhower sent 1,000 US troops to Little Rock. The next day, the African American students entered under heavily armed guard.
The episode served as a catalyst for the integration of other segregated schools in United States.
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Yeah. So they waited a year they waited a year to give you some sort of opinion guidelines, but they only waited sixty days to put the Internal Revenue Code in place. Capisce? So I still asked the tortured question, Larry. You're an educated guy. You know about this stuff. You tiptoed your way around it. How can somebody with God given rights and duties be equal to somebody with civil rights from the federal government? How can those two things be equal? Yeah. And that's the question of the century. I agree with you. So they just mow over it and try and tell you it's about black and white and not political status. And they roll on so they can ask you that one question.
Are you a citizen of United States, instead of saying, are you a citizen of United States or a national? Lack of full disclosure.
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I think the the the relevance there in the Little Rock Nine is they federalized the National Guard because the governor wasn't refusing to enforce federal law. And then Trump did the same thing because Newsom wasn't was refusing to enforce federal immigration law. Right. And then, you know, they they're trying to say, oh, well, you know, it was it was different then because it wasn't, No. Under the was it the nineteenth amendment? It was.
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The rules, seems to me, William, is whoever calls them out first has control of them.
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Well, in the 04/2009, the the the governor called them out to to prevent the law from being enforced, and then they federalized them and then sent federal troops,
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and basically made them stand down. Okay. Well, that's interesting. It probably shouldn't happen that way if my my feeling look at this is correct. So I don't know. But that is when they decide remember, everything else had been done. They'd set up the IRS internally in '51. They'd have a couple lessons, 33, to get all their things in place, and now they're gonna move to close the deal. They had to overcome Plessy and get that 54 internal revenue code, and that's the capstone
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on the pyramid. Is that right there? No. For for sure. You know? But the the relevance here now is with, you know, the governor saying that Trump stepping outside of his bounds, federalizing the National Guard when He's wrong. It's okay. It's okay in Brown v Board, but it's not okay,
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here. You know? Yeah. Well, that's yeah. He's a well, he's a Democrat. Come on, man. That's the way it works for them. They get to do they get to play both sides.
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That's true.
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Thank you, William. Okay. Thank you, Larry. That's interesting. You can bring that back next week and read it to the full audience if you want. An interesting piece. It's dead center over what we do. Yeah. I could do that. Okay. Well, then do that. I was noodle on it over the weekend, and, we can hammer it one day next week when I'm going begging for people to step forward and say something. Okay? Sounds good. Thank you, Roger. Alright. You guys have a splendid weekend. Okay? And I will see you soon. Ciao. Thank you, Paul. And I thank Mark again, but I think he's already gone. So and everybody else. See you soon. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you very much. Alright. You're welcome.
Ciao ciao.
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That was a good show today. Yeah. It was. Okay, guys. I'm stepping away. You guys take the reins. I'll leave the stream up for about another forty five minutes or so.
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Hey, Paul.
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Yeah, Larry.
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So I was relistening to Friday's show, and you you can't and I know this was brought up by Merck, and you fixed the problem. I guess you forgot to hit a button, but you couldn't hear, other other students' voices. I think Roger was talking to Nancy, and all you could hear was, Roger's voice. Yeah. So do you have a recording elsewhere that you can cut and paste it back in there?
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No. I don't I don't have Okay. That recording anywhere.
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And another thing is, it almost looks like the transcript was able to record it. Is that true that even though you didn't have the voice on, the transcript picked it up? No.
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No. The transcript wouldn't have picked it up. If it didn't exist in the audio, it wouldn't have picked it up.
[02:13:30] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. I I was gonna investigate that and but I figured I'd ask you that question first, but so it's just lost, I guess. Yeah.
[02:13:41] Unknown:
Okay. And thanks to, thanks to Murph for alerting me of that as early in the program as she did. Thank you, Murph.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
Hey, Danny. Danny, you were talking about date? Bori. Bori.
[02:14:25] Unknown:
Yes, Nate. Yes? Hi. Jones, what's up, Jones?
[02:14:30] Unknown:
Hi. Hi. Do you do you still think you understand what Danny was saying about the word state?
[02:14:40] Unknown:
Well, I thought that he was saying that, you know, when you come from another country to the state, you don't go to the state. You go to the federal department. You know? Yeah. That's what I thought that he was saying, but I could be wrong. The white we don't deal with the state. That's what I was understanding. You know, when you come from another country, you don't come to the state of Virginia and be naturalized here in Virginia. You naturalized in the federal government.
[02:15:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And I was just gonna ask what? If Danny was still on here, I was just gonna going to ask him to pretend I mean, to put it in an example like he like he, Danny, is is going through some exercise that would explain, what he meant by the smallest state and what he was and what his circumstances would be In an example, if he was talking about capital s state. Oh, it's okay. But that's all I was gonna ask, Danny.
[02:15:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I I didn't hear what this is on it. I didn't hear what, Danny said, but I have some thoughts on that. Maybe I can speak to that. Good. So so, yeah, I I agree agree to what Bori said. You get naturalized to get naturalized in the federal, system. And so but with regards to capital s state and small letter, s state, s state. So my understanding is that, say so a good example, I guess, I can think of and I've I've meditated on this, and I think about it often. And the best explanation that I can come up to myself is, say, for example, you go to, like, counselor's office.
I mean, you know, for to get counseling, like, you know, mental counseling, whatever. And then you go to the doctor's office, and then he he he and then he asks you, hey. So what's your state? You know? Where where are you at? How was your week? So he's asking you for to describe where you are in your mind state mental state. Right? Yeah. So it's a it's a it's not a noun. It's a description. So and you say, oh, this week was great, and you describe it where you are. I had a a, you know, beautiful week, or it was a horrible week, and you described it where you were that week as a as a state, your mental state. Now k. So that that we can all relate to that. Now if the you were in a court case and that doctor is asked to to testify in the court And, the attorney would come to him and say, what was the state of that individual?
K? So in other words, the the doctor is now in a position to describe your state. K? So he has the liberty. He can lie about you. He can tell the truth. He can do whatever the heck he wants. But but the point there is that he is speaking about in regards to the state of the individual. So we can apply that to our state. So when we say we have, we have, we have, what's the word I'm thinking, allegiance to a smaller state, It's the state that that we all agree to. That is the state of mind we're at. We're in a, god's right, god given rights. That's the state of mind we're at.
But in a federal state, they are speaking in behalf of the people. That would be the state of the state of Texas, the state of Virginia, the state of this, the state of that. So to me, that explains why we feel screwed, because they don't represent us. They're lying about us with regards to our state of mind. Anyway, that that's the way I can work it in my mind. But that's how I differentiate between a small s state and capital s state. So I hope I hope that was, helpful.
[02:19:24] Unknown:
Yes. Thank you. And so but just to elaborate a little bit more on what you were just saying about state of, like, state of Texas, then then what was your more, what was what was an elaboration of your what you were saying about that?
[02:19:43] Unknown:
Yeah. That would be equivalent if the the doctor was sitting in a court, and he was being asked what is the state of the subject you were visiting in your office. Right? And then at that point, the doctor is he's he's he's in between you and the the court, and he's describing he's talking about your fate, but in as a, as a third person. Right? He's he's describing the state of the individual. And so to me, that's the way I can I can simplify this whole difference between small letter s and capital s? Because in the language we use, there's a clear distinction on any application of the capital s and small letter s. And one is our individual state, whatever we call that to be.
And then the other one is when someone is speaking in on our behalf, which would be the state of.
[02:20:47] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Good. Thank you.
[02:20:54] Unknown:
I hope I didn't rant too much and confuse everyone.
[02:21:01] Unknown:
So an example is Anna is, an example of the state speaking or someone speaking for us. What's an example in real life of of the
[02:21:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And the the example yeah, the an example in real life would be, like, or your someone comes in, maybe your husband comes in and speaks, about the state of you. Right? If you are in the midst of, for example, a divorce, it wouldn't be it probably would not be the right person to speak, in in behalf of you with regards to your state mental state. But if you're happily married, that would be very different. Right? But either way, it'd be the state of it would be describing the state of someone else.
[02:22:01] Unknown:
Yeah. But, I mean, in, like, the government in in a real political government Yeah. Sample to the Uh-huh. Say I'm interfering, or I don't know if the right word is interfering or or not doing How how you worried it in the beginning something more about they're not treating, people right? What what's an example of the government or the feds? Or
[02:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. In the in the Oh. In the Okay. And sorry. In the in the government side in the federal government side, they've already classified, you know, 99 probably 99.9% of the people as, federal persons. So they have duty and responsibility, which they take extremely seriously to properly represent those that they have, whose state of mind they are, you know, managing or protecting. Right? So that would be, as so so the the state ofs are the federal. So the federal franchisees. Right? So that's why you go to a franchise tax place to pay your franchise tax. Right? So they're and everyone else is franchisee, all other states, both the federal state from Washington DC.
And that's why we have a commissioner. So they have it's all kind of a corporate infrastructure, but let's not get confused on that. But the point there is that US citizens are subjects to be, managed. So whether they do their job well or or not, that would be a different story. Right? Doesn't matter whether they're doing it. The point is there it is there. It is set up in that way. So when we separate ourselves from that and become a small letter s, they just don't know what to do with us because that's not something they it's what Roger was saying. They're they I mean, if you you're not gonna spend your time and energy in, like, point 1% of the population.
You spend your time and energy on 99.9% of the population, which should be US citizens.
[02:24:23] Unknown:
Yeah. So would you say the, government the federal government that they have an obligation and duty to, take care of, so to speak, their citizens? So but but would you say but I think you said and whether they're doing it well good or bad, would would you say that they're managing their citizens? Exactly.
[02:24:50] Unknown:
Exactly. Yeah. So they're they're doing it horribly, but that's not the point, though. But that's not the point. The point is they're having to do that. Right? They have duty and responsibility to do what they consider to be the right thing. And and that would be making sure that the $37,000,000,000,000 is is on your head. And that's that would be it was done for in your behalf, and it's for you. It's good for you. You just don't like it, but it's good for
[02:25:21] Unknown:
you. And and and how do they explain that it's good for you?
[02:25:26] Unknown:
Oh, it it they don't need to explain it. They're just doing it.
[02:25:31] Unknown:
It. Yeah. Yeah. Like the prophylactic sludge sludge is good for you and other observers.
[02:25:38] Unknown:
Yeah. If you if you don't like it, there's a there's the you're the problem, not them. Yeah. So yeah. You did it's I'm in. Yeah. Go ahead, sir.
[02:25:56] Unknown:
Hello?
[02:25:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead, sir. I'm yielding for you, sir.
[02:26:09] Unknown:
Hello? Hello? Hey, Donna. When are you leaving? Uh-oh. This is Donna. When are you leave when are you leaving for your trip? May I ask? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not sure. Sat Saturday morning. Saturday morning. Oh. And it's a week from today. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[02:26:33] Unknown:
I I got released shortly to go buy, at least one luggage.
[02:26:38] Unknown:
Nice.
[02:26:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm starting to feel a little stressed out.
[02:26:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Big big trip.
[02:26:46] Unknown:
It's a big trip. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:26:49] Unknown:
Exciting. Exciting.
[02:26:51] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. So
[02:26:54] Unknown:
it's it's, you know, we'll Your children are going with you, Zana?
[02:26:58] Unknown:
Yes. We're all all of us are going.
[02:27:01] Unknown:
Well, that's wonderful. I hope you have a wonderful time.
[02:27:04] Unknown:
Thank you very much.
[02:27:06] Unknown:
Are you gonna be just on the mainland or you're going to Okinawa or the surrounding islands?
[02:27:14] Unknown:
No. We're gonna be on the mainland. Oh, that's that's plenty enough.
[02:27:20] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:27:21] Unknown:
Yeah. It's just there's just too much to see. So we'll spend a couple first, two and a half days would be in Tokyo, and then we'll get a high speed rail and then travel up and down the line for the next seven days. Do you know do you know of a place called Nota City? Uh-uh. No. No. I don't.
[02:27:42] Unknown:
Oh, they they have some folks there with a nine hundred year history. I won't get more into it. Oh, wow.
[02:27:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's there there's a lot today just in Japan. I've I've been there several times, but I haven't been there with my family. So this is our first time. Yeah. So it's it's it's a good place to visit. Very good people.
[02:28:14] Unknown:
Did you study their warring states, period? Yeah.
[02:28:21] Unknown:
I, so whatever I can find on Netflix, you know, but Japanese history, that's the way I know. I don't know how much of that is.
[02:28:29] Unknown:
Oh, it's pretty interesting, the samurai and all that. Yeah. A lot of blood.
[02:28:35] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of blood. Oh, looks terrible.
[02:28:38] Unknown:
Yeah. And those three slit razor blades.
[02:28:43] Unknown:
Yeah. They're just, Yeah. It's, there's one movie I'd like to see with my son before we get on the road. I don't know if we're gonna pull it off, but that's, a Tom Cruise movie. Oh, the Last Samurai? Last Samurai. That's the one. That's
[02:29:06] Unknown:
That's the only movie he's done that I liked.
[02:29:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Oof. Amazing.
[02:29:14] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's a lot of dramatization.
[02:29:19] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:29:23] Unknown:
Yeah. There was a gentleman that wanted to comment, but, didn't mean to stop them. Hey,
[02:29:35] Unknown:
Is it easy to get around Japan with if without knowing the how to speak Japanese?
[02:29:42] Unknown:
So No? He he don't make it easy. If you don't speak their language, even if they speak English, they will just wait for you to try.
[02:29:55] Unknown:
Hey, Donnie. Do you know Spanish?
[02:29:59] Unknown:
No. I don't. Oh. Oh. My wife is Mexican. Oh, well All the bad words.
[02:30:05] Unknown:
Alright. Well, I had three years of Spanish in high school, like, fifty years ago. And when I went to Okinawa in '81, that was, like, forty five years ago, I found that they don't have vowels, but their letters are pronounced more or less like the Spanish vowels, a a e o u. You know, just like that constantly. So their alphabet would more or less, for 90 of it, be ba de be bo bu, kake kiko koo, dade de do do, all the way through, except for a few exceptions. So that'll help you with pronunciation. If you have a phrase book or a dictionary, that's what I went around with.
[02:30:56] Unknown:
Wow. Funny funny you say that because, you know, as I've mentioned, I'm from Ethiopia. Right? And, was born and raised there. I was I came here as a teenager to go to high school.
[02:31:10] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:31:12] Unknown:
So and my, so I talked about my father earlier. Part of the reason that he came back as a changed person was because he understood their culture, and he understood the similarities to to to our Ethiopian culture. And part of that was the language and what you just described. And so the way our letters we have about 286 letters. Wow. Ethiopia. But they're all consonants, and they are a combination with, with vowels. So the the consonant, sort a a would be a consonant, but it would have a a e o u. Mhmm. B would be ba, ba b ba b boo.
And then it goes on and on and on and on all the way. For fortune. It's very similar. It's it's funny to cut that, but that I can completely relate to that. Okay. Yeah.
[02:32:26] Unknown:
No. You do or do not speak you do or do not speak Japanese?
[02:32:31] Unknown:
Oh, no. I don't I don't speak Japanese. No. I speak Ethiopian. Yeah. I speak, two dialects from Ethiopia. Yes. Oh.
[02:32:42] Unknown:
And the reason your dad came back changed is because he had been he had changed into a more peaceful demeanor
[02:32:50] Unknown:
after being with the client? Yeah. Very peaceful. Exactly. Very peaceful. But he was, my father was very, ahead of his time. And a little bit of about my father. He was, you know, when the he was born in the nineteen thirties, '19 not 1927. And so during his, you know, when he was, in his early teens, and, and that's when, Italy came to colonize Ethiopia. Ethiopia was the only, at that time, the only nation that was not colonized in Africa. And, it, Italy came to colonize Ethiopia. That was, that that was their slice of colonization.
[02:33:40] Unknown:
Why don't you come here, Hazel?
[02:33:42] Unknown:
What's that?
[02:33:44] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. I was talking to my dog. Yes, sir. Alright. And,
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and so he he came. And so they came through the northern part of Ethiopia to Italians, and my father was, saw the whole war, on the time. The Italians ended up staying for about five years and they failed in their colonization. And Ethiopia became the only nation. And Africa, actually, the only nation in the whole world that was not colonized, or at least colonized is that proper term because many have attempted to colonize. And, but that was the last one, by war. And so my father was raised in there, and he was about he was a farm boy. He was about 15 years old after the war.
And, that's when opportunity was presented to him to go to the capital city from farming and just to go study. Right? So he started education at age 15 when he was, when he was, as a at age 50 as a third grader. In seven years, he finished high school, and he was accepted to, electrical engineering program. And that's when his career began, which ended up having to go to Japan and see the Japanese culture and expand his education and became kind of a different character when he came back. We just we almost didn't no one recognized. No one could relate to him.
[02:35:17] Unknown:
But I was I was only there eleven months, and it changed me.
[02:35:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll wait. They're they're yeah. I can I can relate to that? They're they're just, the honor, respect, the just, respect of a mankind, the that, there's just a whole their whole culture is very different. It just, once you see it, it's it just leaves an impression on you. And that's what happened. So growing up, I saw that change of my father, and he's got, you know, pictures and and all these things that he brought with him. And, so fast forward to current time, I I feel incredibly blessed to have the opportunity to take my my wife and kids with me. So, anyway, it's the long and short of it.
[02:36:14] Unknown:
Are you going for engineering business too?
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yeah. I followed my father's footsteps there.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
Nice.
[02:36:31] Unknown:
Do you know anything about hardware relating to, say, an alternate, like an alternative Internet?
[02:36:44] Unknown:
Can can you hardware as opposed to alter there was a breakup. I didn't hear you well.
[02:36:51] Unknown:
Would you know anything about hardware that would be related to starting up an alternate an alternate Internet,
[02:37:02] Unknown:
you know, of something that Internet, you know yeah. To the main Internet.
[02:37:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Not hooked up to the regular Internet, that it would be a private thing. Like, they're all strung up throughout the country. Everybody have a hub, and we can go around the well, it wouldn't be a dark web. We aren't dark.
[02:37:28] Unknown:
Oh, no. It's dark as opposed to light being the one that everybody is on.
[02:37:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We'd we'd wanna be apart from that when the time comes because they're gonna shut they're gonna shut down the Internet. We might as well have our own thing going.
[02:37:45] Unknown:
So I was referring to actually, it does exist. There there is one. It's called the dark web. That's the name they give it. Yeah. But, you know, it's unrestricted. And, you can just there's they can't. And then that's exactly how it's set up. Every computer is, is, you know, it's a hub. Every server is a hub, but that that we have to know how to get on it. Right? So and it's unrestricted. But if you it's it ain't it ain't pretty like the one that we're used to. Right. It's not convenient. You you gotta know what you're doing in order to use it. That's the catch. Mhmm.
[02:38:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, we're talking about it now. So that way, when Ben comes, hopefully, we'll be ready.
[02:38:39] Unknown:
So, Azana, are you familiar with it? Do you know how to access it and use it?
[02:38:45] Unknown:
I am I'm very familiar with it, but I have no reason to access it. So I don't I don't wanna do it. I know how it works. I know from technical standpoint, I know how it all works. I know how it operates. But I got other things to do in life, so that's not one of it. So I don't spend my time on. But it it's there. I mean, it's just, if you just do the Google search on how to access the dark web, there, I'm sure there are you'll find some reference to it. But but if you do that, you have to get, like, a just be sure to get a separate computer, you know, with, you know, with nothing on it that you wouldn't mind losing it because there's just there's just too much out there.
So
[02:39:54] Unknown:
So there are people out there using it now, but it's a it there's not safety protocols on it, and it's used for more nefarious thing?
[02:40:05] Unknown:
It's used, yeah, it's used for more, nefarious things. That's correct. Because it's just it's a wild west. Use it for good things, use bad things. You can't. And so, like, for example, the the, you know, set of files and stuff like that, it'd be hard to track it in a dark web.
[02:40:28] Unknown:
Well, we weren't gonna go nefarious. It's just relaying information like what we go through and, you know, mainly our purposes. That that's what I want to set up for.
[02:40:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So we would have a place to unite in case the system the system went down that we use now.
[02:40:52] Unknown:
Yeah. It you you you wanna have a totally separated system completely off grid.
[02:41:00] Unknown:
And and that's why it's a alternate.
[02:41:05] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's it's not easy. I mean, someone has to manage it. It's kinda like the way Paul is managing the service.
[02:41:15] Unknown:
Yeah, Paul.
[02:41:18] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's not it's not easy. Yeah.
[02:41:24] Unknown:
It's
[02:41:26] Unknown:
it's it's, it's difficult, and then you have to have and then you start getting into managing it, and then now you have to have certain rules.
[02:41:37] Unknown:
And And you have to you have to use Linux. Yeah. Yeah. Linux is the better operating system to use. Yes. Exactly. It's not better. It's necessary. A Windows machine would last about eight seconds on the dark web Because there's the one thing in common with everybody that is on the dark web, whether they're there for nefarious purposes or, what they're hiding or whatever they're doing. There is a universal disgust and disdain for all things Microsoft. So you show up with a Windows 10 or 11 computer, it's gonna go down in, like I said, like, eight seconds.
[02:42:26] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. And that would be part of the learning curve. Yeah.
[02:42:33] Unknown:
Definitely. Sounds like you've experienced that.
[02:42:39] Unknown:
No. That's where Linux came from. It was a bunch of independent programmers that took a a Unix core and built a Windows interface for it that would run on an x 86 architecture. Exactly what they did did. They saw Microsoft, Bill Gates, and Windows. I mean, they hated Microsoft back in the MS DOS days because Bill Gates essentially stole IBM DOS, which was the, the, disk operating system that IBM computers used. He stole that. He made it look pretty and released it under his name. And what do you know? His became more popular than what than the version he stole.
[02:43:32] Unknown:
Well, he was all thousand. Right?
[02:43:35] Unknown:
Yep. He was all hooked up with IBM anyway. Yep. His mother was that guy's secretary.
[02:43:47] Unknown:
Yep. And he comes from well-to-do. And and he's just just kinda if you look at this from a spiritual standpoint, you know, and what where I think about where did he get the drive to do what he did? It wasn't money.
[02:44:08] Unknown:
Proliferation of evil.
[02:44:12] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:44:13] Unknown:
He is just rotten to the core.
[02:44:17] Unknown:
Yes. And it's a spiritual thing. It was very young.
[02:44:27] Unknown:
And And
[02:44:34] Unknown:
And You've all broken down. Yeah. Sure.
[02:44:47] Unknown:
I was I was just saying that, what y'all talking about Bill Gates, Dan. Right? What what motivated him? I said, well, partially, mental illness if if you were talking about Bill Gates.
[02:44:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I think there's more to it than that. I I think there's, there's something, that would be something physical. That would be something physical. Right? But, there's something wrong with that guy spiritually.
[02:45:13] Unknown:
Well, he's a megalomaniac to start with.
[02:45:18] Unknown:
10.
[02:45:20] Unknown:
I had to step away for a minute, and I just came back. But I seen a headline this morning that he's bought up a bunch of water rights recently.
[02:45:29] Unknown:
And land too, but it's way too much farmland.
[02:45:34] Unknown:
Mhmm. He's the biggest farmland owner in the country now.
[02:45:42] Unknown:
Yeah. So something's really messed up with that guy.
[02:45:47] Unknown:
Well, through some other people, I've been trying to court Blackbird nine, and, hopefully, I can get him, you, and Paul together, and maybe you could hit shit this thing out. Because Blackbird nine was, Blackbird nine was hooked up with, what was that thing called? The, it was before the Internet. He was working on that.
[02:46:23] Unknown:
Telephony or something about telephones and computers
[02:46:28] Unknown:
hookup. Yeah. Yeah. He knows all that stuff. He he'd know how to basically set up an alternate. And with your brains and Paul's together, this thing can get done.
[02:46:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I think our our to be honest with you, the the the gentleman that was speaking, I was listening to after hours. I think this was at last Saturday's call. He has that radio, service. He was, Comcast. His website is Southern Radio. Anyway, AM radio is supposed to be that. Mhmm. Right? So AM radio is supposed to, bypass everything. So that to me, that's the that's the, there's a system for for people to connect. And, it's too much. Yeah. It's already so it's just leveraging what's available is a better odds than having to create an entirely separate platform.
[02:47:43] Unknown:
And and b b nine is big on the ham radios.
[02:47:48] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. I'll light up my Baofeng, by w eight.
[02:48:00] Unknown:
By by the way, John, I, just need to tell you something. So, do you remember when the time of on one of the episodes that, where Roger turns to you and he goes, hey, Jonah. Are you one of those sovereign citizen? He said to him, no, dumbass. Do you remember that?
[02:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:48:31] Unknown:
Yeah. And somebody asked me if I was, oh, are you one of those sovereign citizens? Yeah. And then I said, no, you dumbass.
[02:48:42] Unknown:
I just wanted you to know. I loved it. I love so hard. It was so hilarious.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:48:53] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a very good one.
[02:49:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a quandary there. Citizen meaning slave. Why would anybody want to call themselves that if they're immersed in freedom. I it's something that's baffling.
[02:49:17] Unknown:
Because they haven't thought the situation through.
[02:49:24] Unknown:
And they're ignorant to the meaning of words, which is one of the things that enslave us all, I believe.
[02:49:34] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:49:38] Unknown:
Anyway, y'all, I'm gonna have to step away, and it's a great time talking to you all. Thank you very much. And
[02:49:47] Unknown:
Oh, Poopy. I wanted to query you on a couple of things. I just got back from my from my, free breakfast. And Sure. You said that you're from Ethiopia?
[02:49:59] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:50:01] Unknown:
Do you know that church where they have the, that old Bible in it with the book of Enoch?
[02:50:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's the book of Enoch is the only, addition we have to the Bible that it was a Roman Catholic Bible. We have one one additional chapter, and that's the book of Enoch. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's I was raised as an Orthodox.
[02:50:29] Unknown:
Oh, what did you glean on that? Russian,
[02:50:36] Unknown:
Syrian?
[02:50:40] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Can can you repeat the question? I didn't.
[02:50:44] Unknown:
Which orthodoxy? Russian or Syrian?
[02:50:50] Unknown:
Okay. So, the, it's it's our orthodoxy is very similar to the Coptic Egyptian Orthodox. That's the closest one we have, But it is a Syrian, a bishop in the year March
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Mhmm.
[02:51:08] Unknown:
That he was traveling south and, stopped, on his way, by his house towards Africa. So he was going somewhere in Africa. And, and he stopped through Ethiopia and met the Ethiopian king. And, when a king at that time, if your king changes its position, and then the whole nation changes. And, that's what happened. So the, the the Syrian bishop, ended up staying in Ethiopia, and, and the the Ethiopian king became Christian. And when he changed when he became Christian, he changed his name to whatever it was to Ezana. King Ezana.
So that's where my father gave me that name from. Oh. So, yeah, king king Ezana is a a a very famous king. King abroad Christianity to Ethiopia and introduced Christianity. He opened the year March.
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Yeah. Let's go.
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Before that, we were which you would consider, the and Jude we practiced a good portion of the nation practiced Judaism, And, they they never got the memo that the Jews had changed, their religion, since the times of King Solomon. Ethiopia was isolated. So a thousand years or so, Ethiopia was practicing Judaism as it was a thousand years prior. And, so that's, so the the old way So that that I never got to know things have changed, you know, some so, so what our we practice the the the ancient Jewish Judaism combined with Christianity. So our our cultural identity is pseudo Christian.
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Well, that that but the and Israel. Exactly. Yeah.
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But times are changing. The Muslims are, essentially, in the process of changing the whole Africa, and they're having pretty good success. So
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Yeah. But a religion under threat of death or gleaning and what have you, or what kind of religion is that? That's demonic. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Fine.
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Yeah. My father my fa my father used to say he he became historian of tours. So he has always said, you know, what the West is finally experiencing now what we have been experiencing for the last four, five hundred years. And that was a takeover of the Muslims.
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Is is there anything good about Muslims?
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What is there? What anything about
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Okay. Is there anything good good about Muslims?
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Oh, there is a lot of good. It's not they okay. It's it's not inherently a bad thing. It but it's it's it's, they they, you know, the the common people, wish, good. You know, they wanna see their children grow, do well. Right? And so the common folks are really good people. I mean, I have a lot of friends. They're just, they're Muslim friends, and I have love and respect them and they're great friends. And, they have the same wishes and desires as everyone else does. The religion has nothing to do with it. But the catch is, is the the religious infrastructures, let's just say, the doctrine, and who pushes it, who leads it.
And that's a very, very dark path. And, so it's kind of a religion. It's a top down religion, right, like most religions are. And it's the the top has an agenda. And that's what we're seeing and we just, are experiencing and it's a takeover we're going through. But it's, you know, people don't you know, they just wanna live their lives and tell me what to do. You know, just wanna do my thing, raise my family. Just, leave me alone. Most people are in that in that way and not involved in the politics of things.
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Do do the common folk, the regular Muslims, believe in Jesus Christ?
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No. They do recognize him. They do recognize him. He is very, very well recognized. K? And they see him as, they, he he's in all their histories and their bible. They it's actually the name they use to call them is Isis, which is, the Yeah. Yeah. Isis. Right? It says the letter the letter I at the beginning was, converted to j, a few couple 100 ago, a few 100 ago. But the name was, Esus, I e s u s, and the I was changed to j.
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Oh, so what did they believe he's the he's the son of God of of the creator? He's the son? He's a
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No. He they see him as a prophet.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah. That's what Roger was saying the other day. I mean, I I always listen after hours. So, most of them recognize Jesus far more than the Jews do. So that's actually a very correct statement.
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And also, I e s o u s is in the earlier King James versions as well as the Geneva.
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Yep. It's in the Ethiopian Bible as well. We call it Mhmm. Thesis. Yeah.
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Yeah. That would be probably earlier than the, King James, for sure.
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Well, yeah. Those ours goes back to that. It's it will go back to the the days of the year March.
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Okay.
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Yeah. It's it's, Sam.
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And and and, Ezana, what year did you say king king Ezana brought Christianity to Ethiopia March?
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Yeah. 03/06 March. Yeah.
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March.
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March.
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Yeah. AD.
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Yes. AD. Thank you. The the '3 the the year 03/25 was the Council of Francia. That's when the universal church was finally established that we call the Catholic church today. It's the year 03/25. So just about fifty years later.
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And what's the main thing, the hierarchy at the tip top of the Muslims, the evil, whatever, what what is the what is their main want to accomplish or or have or be or?
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That's actually a very good question. So in my in my, in my studies, the question is not what so so the question is not what they're the question is who's who's in charge? Right. So like, for example, we have presidents that we would the presidents come and go. Right. But we have the office of the president of The United States. You know? Trump gets in. Obama gets in. But the office is there. It it exists. Right? So you may change the people, but the office of the presidency, is is the office that's there. And and that office, what's that office? That's the real question. So the question is not about religion. It's a question of who owns that office.
So who owns the Muslim religion? Who runs it? What's the infrastructure? People may come and go, but what's the agenda of the office of the the
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Are are they a part of the World Council of Churches?
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Exactly. And you're good. That that when when you when when you get into that and start looking into that and the same people that are manipulating all these churches and all these religions with different thing, they have captured Muslim religion as well. And they it's their agenda that is getting pushed out.
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Who's that?
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Whoever runs the office whoever runs the office.
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The War Council of Churches. Know who they use.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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They I believe it is just simply put evil. Evil is on top of all the hierarchies of all the silly, nefarious clubs that are floating around, you know, the masons, the Catholics, the Club of Rome, all those morons.
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That's not you're not even obvious. And you're
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So you say you say, Gregory, the hierarchy, that's the they. I get credit. Hierarchy
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enslaving you. It's not right now.
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Right. Yep.
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I was just picking on you, Gregory.
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Sorry.
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Oh, go ahead. I'm used to it.
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Oh, if anyone wants one break, if I'm going to work yeah. I'm getting ready for work. They want me in an hour later. Later, can you hear me?
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Yeah. I I gotta go buy luggage too. So it was wonderful talking to you all. Thank you very much. You as well. Thank you for spending time with us.
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Definitely. Thank you so much. I'd like to sit down and have a beer with you if you're into libations. But
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Well, what area are you at?
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I'm up here in Rough And Ready. You come by anytime.
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Oh, when where? I'm sorry?
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Rough And Ready, California.
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Oh. It's
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you're in California, are you not?
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No. No. No. I'm in in Texas. I'm in Austin area.
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Oh, okay.
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But someday I may. So, yeah, I wanna I wanna go at some point. You know, it's I'd like to meet several of you. I wanna go see Mark sometime. He's in Oklahoma, so maybe someday I'll go see him. Tom, I'd like Tom is here too, so I'd like to, Tom from the, the radio, program. So I've been out. I'd like to I'd love to make connections. So yeah.
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Yep. And dealt with Alex, have you?
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Alex? Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. I'll tell you one funny story. I don't if I don't know if Paul is there. It actually it was the Monday before it was the Monday before Thanksgiving. My son I grabbed my son and I said, hey. You wanna go to Alex Jones and kinda talk to him about nationality? He's right there. He's not far from here. And we're like, we've been talking about it for about a week or so and just thanks. We just come here. You don't have school. You wanna go with me? So we're laughing about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So finally we decided, okay, so Monday we're going to go. But I got sick, so I got kind of like a flu or something. I don't know. So I ended up we ended up not going. And I normally don't listen.
I normally don't listen to the Monday shows because of the way work is, stuff like that. But that day, I was sick. And, and, I called in to listen to the show, and it was the date that Roger was not was not on. And, one of the listeners suggested that, to play a recording from some b Wells, that show, the r b Wells, whatever. And it was about AJ, and I listened to that. And and so Monday before today, if you guys wanna go back to the archive, it was that Monday before Thanksgiving, second half of the show. I'm never gonna do anything with Alex. Just whatever it is that show, it's I might be true. It might not be true, but there's something funny about the guy.
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They do. It was funny.
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Yes. There's something weird about that, Kai. And it was about, almost a billion dollar, what is the lawsuit that they put on him and stuff like that, how it built up to that, whether he's complacent on that. And, and this attorney that was on that show that, all ended up playing, was was detailing out some things that didn't quite add up about that trial. Yep. And, and I don't know. It's I it just there's so many weird things that I'm not associating myself with that guy in any way. It may be true, it may not be true, but either way, that's yeah. Azana, are you talking,
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Alex Jones? Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear what he called Stu Peters yesterday?
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Oh, no.
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He said that Stu Peters this is so funny. It's like, this is what you are, Alex. He called Stu Peters a liar, a Hitler lover, and a sociopath among other things. And I was just like, and what are you? What does that make you?
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Because Stu Peters He's just asking for he's just asking for another defamation lawsuit against him. Because Stu Peters was on the Alex Jones Show and he wanted to talk about the, the way things really were in Israel, and Alex Jones kept cutting him off, cutting him off, cutting him off. Yep. And then after the break, mysteriously, Stu Peters was gone.
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Yep. Exactly. Stu told everything that happened on the show and what Alex Jones did to him, and, I think that Alex Jones is a Zionist. I really do.
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Oh, oh, yeah.
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Yeah. Something to find out what you're saying.
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Said about I listen to Stu Peter every single day, and, he makes me laugh just the way his tonality of his voice is and stuff. I think that he could be he he should use the word Zionist instead of Jews, but, since the Zionists are hiding all behind the name Jew, he uses the word Jew. And he just tells you the truth, and he he backs it up with data. And then the people he interviews on his show back it up. So I don't know. I'm not his crypto coin is pretty funny. Drew proof. I laugh. I just think he's funny when it comes to this. I'm surprised somebody's not tried to take him out and silence him permanently because, oh my god, every single day on his show, that's all he reports on.
It make it real great again. And Yeah. Oh my god. It's crazy. He's crazy.
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Yeah. His his wives have been Jewesses.
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Yeah. I don't know. He's just
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another gatekeeper at a different level like, Russell and Burger had he was a gatekeeper at that level. And then you find, Alex Jones, and a little more truth comes out, and you're, you know, drawn to it. And then, you know, you get Stu Peters, and I Stu, he's not pulling any punches. He he he Yep. Shows you exactly how the cow eats the cabbage, and that's something that Alex can't put up with because he's been co opted. He's he's part of the club that we're not in.
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And, I don't know. There's a there's a CIA, project out there. There's two. It's called Project Pogo and Project Zephyr. They have been around for a long time where and and both of Alex Jones' parents worked at the CIA. So Project Pogo is where the CIA will tell you what you can say, and they'll actually tell you to tell the truth. And then they all the listeners that they you garner on your show as a result of telling the truth and calling out these globalists, then they find the IP addresses of you. They find out who you are online and where you live, and Project Zephyr is, extinction. Just get rid of the people who are in the know. These are the resistance. Get rid of them.
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Mhmm. Well,
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Alex has had a habit that when you're a guest on his show, the next day, you get a lawsuit
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from him. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yep. I I think that I don't know. I like I I like sometimes some of the interviews that Alex Jones has, but, I do like Mike Adams sometimes, although sometimes he's very much fear porn, but I do still like him. But I do not like, for the most part, I don't care for Alex Jones anymore.
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Yeah.
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Is that you, Julie?
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Yeah. Here. Yep.
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By the way, I did it again. I, fasted again, for twenty four hours twice in a week. So you know, I guess, a week and a half. You what? Remember? I fasted. Remember?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's
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great. I did it twice, so I'm still proud of myself. Yeah. That's fabulous. For twenty four hours.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah. I wanna go Thank you.
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I I don't hate Jews, and I'm not against Israel.
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I get I just want them to stop fighting. That's all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And it has freaking Laura log Laura Boomer freaking Zio bitch fucking on.
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Yeah. The other day. Okay. F bombs will be immediately room removed from the room.
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Oh, shoot. We're not recording.
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Streaming. Actually, still streaming. I'm eating my lunch, so I'm not gonna take the stream down until I'm done.
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What are you having, John? Hey. How are you? Julie. Yeah.
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Hi, Corey. You know, he's hi. How are you? Good. How are you? Alex Jones is saying I'm doing great. I'm I'm blessed. I'm blessed. Alex Jones is saying that about Stoop Peters because they always tell you what they doing. You know? Yep. He's doing all that stuff, and he's putting it to his stoop because that's what he's doing. Yep. And Stoopers is legit for real. He's not a he's not a sellout like Alex Jones.
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Yep. Absolutely.
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Yep.
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Alex Jones, that's like what do you call it? Controlled opposition also. Right?
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Yep. Yeah. That's why he tell you, oh, follow the plan. Follow the plan. But which plan? Because we don't know no plan. I know God's plan.
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When your your first wife is Jewish and you have three Jewish children, what do you do? All the population in all the world and you happen to marry a Jew in your position, how does it even work? You know? You notice all these high profile people. Out of all the population in all the world, they end up marrying Jews.
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Isn't isn't his second wife also, his current wife?
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Well,
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well, here's he he always denies she's Jewish. But one day, a friend of mine, he makes a joke out of it. I still have yet to ever hear it myself, but he goes caller goes, your wife's a Jewish whore. And he goes, my wife's not a whore.
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That's funny. And I'm sorry you I'm sorry you have Tourette's outburst at times. I suffer from mess and things too.
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Maybe that's one reason why they haven't opted, to Peter yet is they may be setting him up to be another Alex Jones. We don't we don't really know. Set him up to be a part of might be able to manipulate them. You know, they got these mind control machines running all over the place. You never can tell who's gonna get, zapped with it and, you know, manipulated. You know, like, oh, what is all those DIA operations that they've been doing since after World War well, even before World War two, you know, experimenting on
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Did you say m MK Ultra?
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Yeah. That kind of poopy. Artichoke and all those other, fruits and vegetables, I suppose.
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But remember, they may be waiting for the technology to grow in your body to control you. You know? We all got that nano technology growing in us. And if you don't take care of it, if you don't take it out of your body, it's gonna get a point that it's gonna control you, and all your information is gonna go to the cloud.
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I think that'll be through the parasites. Yeah. Eat a lot of kimchi. That's what, who is on? I was oh, it was on Jimmy Dore. He had, Kim something or other on, and she was talking about nanoplastics and how we're being
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Yeah. Microplastic. Microplastic.
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Yeah. Yeah. All that. Blade like these.
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Kimchi kimchi kimchi. That's she even sells a pill form kimchi.
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That would be better because you can't smell it. Smell it fermenting.
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Yeah. They're claiming that Korean people, I forget north or south, but they're saying that they live, six years longer than everybody else, if you can believe that.
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Okay. Now ones are some of the most long lived people.
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Koreans. Early on in my marriage, the wife and I were, property managers for a university apartment building, Minnesota. And there was a Korean family that lived in that building, and she made kimchi once or twice a week. And you could smell it everywhere in the building. Everywhere.
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And I take it you never got used to it.
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No. And we did eventually move, but I don't know if we we, traded up or traded down. We went from a building that smelled like kimchi to a building that the paper boy would piss in the elevator in the morning.
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Did you have cameras?
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No. This was, like, forty years ago.
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Mhmm.
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Wow. Yep.
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Well, like, everything else, it acquired taste.
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Please don't say taste. I'm eating. Cat's already thinking she's gonna fight me for it.
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What are you chomping on, Paul?
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Deboned steak and, baked potatoes.
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Oh, we done stepped up.
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No. We done thawed out some stuff that was in the freezer.
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Imagine having a wife and your nickname her kimchi breath.
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I don't know of anybody that would do that.
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That'd be a good name for a dog, by golly.
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Hell, they use their tongue for toilet paper. Sorry, Paul.
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Hey. Just taste what you just got through eating day or two ago. Hey. That's for a minute too. That might be a form of kimchi. Call it shitsi.
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Now
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let's,
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not top off what was a very, very good, very informative show with a lot of utter nonsense. Thank you.
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Oh, come on, Paul. What's a little levity? We've got to laugh through this, oh, what was that guy's name? Man. Oh, he's he's from, he's a presenter. Used to be on RBN for a while, and he's from that, island of oh, man. I'm having a serious brain fart. I might even be having a bloody stroke
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over the same island that you're from, the Island Of Misfit Toys?
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Yeah. Eastwood. His last name's Benny. Benny Eastwood. Yeah. That's a guy. What was that saying he's he's always coming up with? What's the what's the use of being killed if you can't enjoy it or some some levity like that? Very entertaining. Very brilliant
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too. Okay.
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Is everybody Go Go ahead, Julie. Oh, you go ahead.
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Lisa, can you hear me? Don't forget what you were gonna say, Julie.
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You go ahead, Joan. I'm listening to you.
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Don't forget what you were gonna say. Lisa, are you can you hear me? If Lisa cannot hear me, Julie, then please go ahead.
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Lisa. Alright. Can you hear us? Lisa.
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You might have left.
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Her name's on here.
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Yeah. She's there. Well, then she's probably in another room?
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Yeah.
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Oh, she did?
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Probably.
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Yep. Yeah.
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Yeah. I wonder why I'm still here.
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I was just gonna ask, because my phone cut out, but maybe some of y'all remember back when, I don't know, maybe thirty minutes ago when I was asking Ezana who's at the top of the Muslim heap I mean, hierarchy. And and then my and then I did hear Brent say, you know you know who's at the top. And so I'm guessing he meant, like, dynasty or fake dynasty. But then but then Lisa came on, Phone cut out. Does anybody remember what Lisa said? I think she was saying maybe was she thought was at the top of the Muslim evil. It
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it's the World Council of Churches.
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Okay.
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And you know who run and you know who runs them?
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The the Zionist Jews or who?
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Them and the and the, Roth style. That hill.
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Yeah. And the and the poke too?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Thank you, BB.
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Some people call him Satan who's on top of that pile of boopy.
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I won't. That goes without saying.
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Okay.
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Well, Brent, I just had to say it. You know me. My big mouth sometimes.
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Yep.
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Who who who is that who is area code 708? He was I like what he had to say. Area code 708. I know I probably know who it was, but I I'm not positive. Okay. Never mind.
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Yeah. Like, was saying that, people come and go, but the program is still the same.
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Good boy. Very good boy.
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Actually, they're not people. They're human. I am here. I am still here.
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Good. I hear from you, Bory.
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You have a skill? Do you have a skill, Kimberly?
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This is like an addiction for me. Every day I learn something new, and every day I I I can't I can't wait for tomorrow to to pass to see him prior on Monday.
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Lisa, I went chasing into Room 1 to to, well, talk, and I no sooner get in there and you jump out.
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I'm sorry. I didn't know you were looking for me per se. Oh, I was Come on over there. Oh, that I was gonna listen to another video, and I started listening to it. And then I'm like, yeah. I don't really feel like it. I'm a go back over here.
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Uh-huh.
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Right. Yeah. Something like that. Well, Andy must be doing the same thing because he's not seeing anything either.
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No. He's not. So and I didn't try to speak to him when I was over there. I just
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k.
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So were you looking for me for something specific?
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No. Not really. I just had a, you know, just kind of a question in passing, but it's not important.
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Okay.
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So we we can pop back over there if you wanna ask me something.
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Case of yesterday, you know, we dropped the news one. A little more private. To finally come in just for Well,
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Okay. Yeah. Let's go over that.
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To release this. It said that, you know, I am now. To court for filing What's the thought? As early as this coming Thursday,
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July 3. It's not quite until the case of treatment ends. July 1 and Tuesday, also President Trump will be speaking at two to wrap it up for the 250 candidates for the celebration.
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And with Jubilee is from this July to next July. So it begins to share concurrently all the way to the end of year. This is obviously currently, as we know, on purpose and was delayed for this time on purpose. So we're watching for that. Once the paperwork is in officially approved, we are watching for a price point between 10 to $30, which should also trigger the dinar. That's why all these things are important for Corland very, very well. This is Sean Bailey. Please call me for more. Breaking news close with the XRP Ripple SEC case. About as of yesterday, as you know, we dropped the the news one with a lot of other people that the appeal to finally come in. Judge Torres has granted the appeal process. XRP will pay 15,000,000 out of a possible 125,000,000, which is stone change for them to release this, instead that, judge Torres could release the documents into court for final approval and submission as early as this coming Thursday, July 3. If not coincidentally, Basel three begins, July 1 on Tuesday. Also, president Trump will be speaking to to Rapazio for the 250 kickoff of America celebration.
Remember, the Jubilee is from this July to next July. So it begins this year concurrently all the way into next year. This was obviously coordinated, as we know, on purpose and was delayed for this time of purpose. So we're watching for that. Once the paperwork is in and officially approved, we are watching for a price point between 10 to $30, which should also trigger the dinar. That's why all these things are important and correlate very, very well. This is John Kelly. Please follow me for more. Breaking news, folks, with the XRP.
SEC case. Now now as of yesterday, you know, we dropped the the news calls to a lot of other people that need. Appeals have finally come in. Judge Torres has granted the appeal process. XRP will pay 50,000,000 out of a possible 125,000,000, which is a term change for them to release this. It said that, Judge Torres could release the documents into court for final approval and submission as early as this coming Thursday, July 3. Coincidentally, Basel three begins, July 1 on Tuesday. Also, president Trump will be speaking with Secretariat as a whole for the two hundred fifty kickoff of America's Celebration. Number two, please, is from this July to next July. So we get this year concurrently all the way to next year. This is obviously coordinated, as we know, on purpose and was delayed for the standard purpose. So we're watching for that. Once the paperwork is in and officially approved, we are watching for a price point between 10 to $30, which should also trigger as an alarm. That's why all these things are important for the query, very well. The shutdown, please call me for Thursday, Thursday, July 3. And coincidentally, Gabrielle three begins, July 1 on Tuesday. This is the best news to be speaking to Reva, with the two hundred fifty kickoff of American celebration.
And originally, it's from this July to next July. So it begins this year concurrently all the way into next year.
[03:30:51] Unknown:
Hi, darling. Are you done? Hello? Yes. Okay. Coming outside. Hold up. Do you wanna come use the bathroom before you go? No. I have I have your Coca Cola. Let me bring your Coca Cola because I have, three more boxes for you. Hold on. Okay.
[03:31:48] Unknown:
Well, how many of y'all are lining up to get your wearable? That thing that, that great man Kennedy is pushing now. What's his name, Robert? Or what is that name? It's supposed to be some secretary of health or whatever.
[03:32:13] Unknown:
Robert Kennedy junior.
[03:32:18] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you, Joan. Yeah. Pushing you know, you just wear this patch or get a tattoo, and it'll it'll relate all your health statistics and everything else to the cloud. And by golly, you'll just be a healthy, happy camper. It'll even tell you how many bugs you can eat the next day. You gotta keep your carbon footprint down, don't you know? And, that means less breathing.
[03:33:03] Unknown:
Seems like he's slip slops a lot. Says something good and something bad. Something good, something bad.
[03:33:11] Unknown:
Like the orange haired critter. They call him Trump. He's the Trump card.
[03:33:20] Unknown:
Alright.
[03:33:31] Unknown:
It just goes to show that boating doesn't matter. Actually, it it tell those morons that, you're okay with whatever they do. I just still can't wrap my brain cell around these people that even though they voted harder, they got a harder slap in the face of reality, and they don't wanna admit they're wrong. That's another big problem.
[03:34:03] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:37:34] Unknown:
Yeah. So get me one of them there, preparedness tablets advertised on RVN. And picked it up yesterday and opened it up, and I'm going, man, what the heck can I do this for? I don't know how to run a darn thing. I can barely get this phone here to start working. You just can't fix stupid. That's all I got to say about that.
[03:38:04] Unknown:
What does it do? What you ordered, what does it do?
[03:38:10] Unknown:
Well, it's supposed to, help remind you during time of crisis, what to do. It's got all sorts of different preparedness tips and whatnot on it. Do you, listen to Republic Broadcasting Network, Joan?
[03:38:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Listen to, you know, certain for three or four, BB, BB nine, Mer, Gaddy, Steven Whitener,
[03:38:51] Unknown:
Don't forget James Fitzer, doctor Fitzer. But it's on the commercials. That's how I got it.
[03:38:58] Unknown:
Okay. I I will fast forward through the commercial story.
[03:39:07] Unknown:
Yeah. It's supposed to be extremely intense and involved in the whole shiitake. I just gotta I just gotta sit down and put my brain cell in the right mode, I suppose. And that's hard for me to do. It's not impossible. It'll just real difficult.
[03:39:34] Unknown:
If you need, you can send it out to Carl. He'll he'll surely take it and then tell you how to use it.
[03:39:42] Unknown:
I'll guarantee you, Gregory. There's some books on there. He ain't got what I've got. And I've been trying to link up with you to give you a bunch of stuff. But, well, when you make that happen, then you'll get my books.
[03:40:03] Unknown:
Well, that goes without saying, Brent. I call you what do I call you? The prepper's prepper. Yeah. You take prepperness to, a whole new level. And if I ever if I ever well, hell, I trying to get rid of some folks, and one of the people that, lied to me was supposed to help me with all that stuff, and she turned out to be a big lying flake. And now they're grifters. I found out, too late, and, Ding a Ling's are playing Pacific Heights on me. I don't know if you remember that movie with, Michael
[03:40:56] Unknown:
Keaton. No.
[03:41:05] Unknown:
Michael Keaton, his way into this couple's house that they were trying to rent out to, make the bills. And, man, I tell you, he did some real ugly things. And he acted so well in that movie that if I ever see him again, I'm I'm still gonna punch him in the nose. But, Yeah. These folks, they they moved in under false pretenses and turned out to be a dud. And now I've got to deal with that crud, and it's it's not fun. You talk to the sheriff's. Yeah. They've even called the sheriff's army when I shut off their water. I guess you're not supposed to do that. You gotta go through all these stupid hoops to get rid of them. And I guess it takes from three to nine months.
And even though we've got proof that they've been, stealing off the credit card, they the copper won't do anything about it. And I finally figured out that, they've gotta get their piece of the pie. So I gotta go down there and file a bunch of paperwork and this, that, and the other. You know, I'm not good at paperwork. It's turning out to be a hell of a fiasco.
[03:42:29] Unknown:
Well, that's why you don't let people stay over or near thirty days because Well, we're not. The whatchamacallit law is going to affect water's rights.
[03:42:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Forty now is is changing.
[03:42:55] Unknown:
Well, I've come to realize that all these laws are created for the criminals.
[03:43:05] Unknown:
Well, criminals don't follow the law.
[03:43:13] Unknown:
Well, that's what the country was founded with, the floundering fathers, supposedly. There are a bunch of damn drifters too, It turns out, you're going to get with That's what all of them were. Had a loan from the US government, 17,000,000 and that's what they needed. Because he was probably at the top of the pile. He was one of the top three richest people in The Americas. What'd you expect was gonna happen?
[03:44:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I tell you, nothing beats that Michael Gaddy as far as history is concerned. He really opened up my my poor little brain cell to a lot of what's really and what really happened. Like, they they put all those founding fraudsters on religious type pedestals and say, oh, how great they are and blah. I mean, they sold them like, you know, Edward Bernays selling, what do they call that? The torches of freedom, you know, getting women to smoke.
[03:44:56] Unknown:
And change what we eat for breakfast, bacon and eggs, which I just had some. Oh, I can get someone to read a paragraph at work and stuff, and they kinda get the idea. They read, Thomas Paine's letter to, Washington, the last paragraph of it, and then I made it available to them. It was a group of, like, four people, and they didn't wanna touch it.
[03:45:46] Unknown:
People just love their ignorance. I don't know what it is. It's it's I'm sure it has a lot to do with the programming they've been programmed with, and they just shut down as soon as you hit them with just even those spelling of truth. It just woah. Either flag over their head or
[03:46:07] Unknown:
Well, to one's credit, they did listen to, the first part of Rince's program where Roger was on there. And they had they had real good questions. You know, they I guess they took notes or something more. They, you know, they're the mental acuity to, you know, remember stuff, but they had some good questions. Nothing I wasn't able to answer or didn't have a hard time answering, but, you know, they paid
[03:46:50] Unknown:
attention.
[03:46:52] Unknown:
You don't have the, time to come on the conference caller or research it further.
[03:47:04] Unknown:
They're at work, but the thing is is they can they see I I I demonstrate to people. I say, when you see this earphone in my ear, which it is all the time, I'm pretty much listening to something or, you know, taking part in it. And, you know, their job is where they could probably do it. You know, I'm interacting with the public and stuff while I'm doing that, and they they don't even interact with anybody really unless they want to. And so they could do it easily. They just have to do it.
[03:47:55] Unknown:
Yep. And lead the horse to water. Can't make them think.
[03:48:39] Unknown:
Well, thing is their oxes haven't been gored yet. Because as soon as somebody has something happen in their life and they don't have an answer for it and they don't like it, you know, they come running.
[03:49:24] Unknown:
Oh, that's like me. I, having a hard time I almost lost you there for a minute, Brenda, but I'm having a hard time remembering and actually doing what I need to do on the computers and and get my brain back to working on that. I used to be fairly proficient at it, but when I lost or threw away my mind, that kinda went out the window with it. I'm just barely able to to get back on this this dumbass smartphone.
[03:49:58] Unknown:
Oh, eat more eggs.
[03:50:06] Unknown:
I bet you have something there. I have when I was a kid, I was allergic to eggs, and I was forced to eat them. And they'd give me a gutache every time, so I'd have to wait till the everybody left. And then I'd throw the eggs in my mouth and go to the toilet and spit them out. I mean, it was bad. And I always had an aversion to chicken too. I just never liked chicken either. Real queer that way, I suppose. I'm getting used to eating eggs, though.
[03:50:38] Unknown:
Probably the vaccines you had had egg in it or something. That's how a lot of that stuff happens.
[03:50:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. That that makes sense. Yeah. And, they didn't put peanuts in my I
[03:50:59] Unknown:
was gonna say peanuts is another one, another allergen. Well, I'm getting ready for work. I'll be listening in, and I'm getting into my crunch time. I wanna be able to wand and do a couple of back exercises before I walk out.
[03:51:27] Unknown:
Well, thank you, Brent. Make sure to tell everybody I said hi. Better yet, just stay high. That's what I've been practicing with my party party political, party.
[03:51:50] Unknown:
Well, I'm playing the Lone Ranger right now. You know, there's, like, very few people in my life right now.
[03:52:08] Unknown:
I can relate. I pretty much ostracized myself from most everybody, and those that do stick with me kinda are repulsed. But they hang on. And those are your true friends. Unfortunately
[03:52:27] Unknown:
I lost I lost Colleen, so it's like, you know, yeah, I talked to her friends and what have you, but not not in the depth that we used to.
[03:52:56] Unknown:
Yeah. It's most odd how people like that are so rare, so so fine. So they comprehend a lot more, overstand things. They're able to relate to them on a on a lot of different levels, which is, you know, something to cherish, something to truly truly, love.
[04:01:23] Unknown:
Okay.
[04:55:21] Unknown:
Can you ask for that or what? Sounds like you shuffling papers.
[04:55:31] Unknown:
Thank you.
Introduction and Current Events
Discussion on Federal Government and National Status
Historical Context of US Citizenship
Supreme Court Decisions and Their Impact
Listener Questions and Legal Clarifications
Debate on Nationality and Citizenship
Legal Definitions and Implications
International Perspectives and Travel
Complexities of State and Federal Laws
Listener Engagement and Personal Stories
Cultural and Historical Insights
Religious and Political Dynamics
Media Personalities and Public Perception
Personal Experiences and Reflections
