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In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles dives into a variety of topics, starting with a discussion on the importance of maintaining freedom and the challenges posed by the IRS. The conversation touches on the historical context of income tax and the strategies used by the IRS to enforce compliance, including withholding taxes and the significance of filing a 1040 form. Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding one's status as a national and how it affects tax obligations. He also highlights the work of John Benson and others who have contributed to the understanding of tax laws and personal sovereignty.

Later in the episode, Eli James joins to discuss his amicus curiae brief in a case against Donald Trump, challenging the constitutionality of an executive order related to antisemitism. Eli explains the implications of the order on religious freedom and the recognition of Christian Identity as a legitimate faith. The episode also features discussions on the use of silver cloth for healing, the importance of preemptive legal strategies, and the role of various contributors in the freedom movement. The show concludes with an emphasis on the collective effort to protect individual freedoms and the importance of sharing knowledge within the community.

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Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

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This Mirror Stream is brought to you in part by mymytoboost.com   for support   of the mitochondria   like never before. A body trying to function with sluggish mitochondria   is kinda like running an engine that's low on oil. It's not gonna work very well. It's also brought to you by Fatfix,   phatphix.com,   and also iTero Planet for the terahertz frequency wand by Preif International.   That's iteroplanet.com.  

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Boy, the world's changing with or without us. We'll try and add our   part here again today on our two hour get together   on Tuesday, June.   Roger Sales, your host on the Radio Ranch. And,   so good morning to you wherever you may be and whoever you may be.   Thanks for being here. It shows that you're interested in freedom   and don't want to be a Jew slave anymore. So that's what we're trying to do is release you from the slavery of the,   the the world's most consistently   big pieces of crap for thousands of years is these people.   So, anyway, the,   folks that help us out here get recognized and accredited,   at the start of the show with one mister Beaner. I guess we should have a full compliment today. Right?  



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We should, but we don't.  

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Oh, okay. Well, alright.  

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WDRN productions   is,   is off, I believe, can win continuing court battles.  

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Oh, man. But,  

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that that appears to be going well from what I hear. So I I I I hope he didn't bring any  

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David Wynn Miller stuff in.   Go ahead.  

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Okay.   We are on eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James.   We're on radiosoapbox.com.   Thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink.   And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Eurofolk   and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs.com,   thematrixd0cs.com.   And   there is also,   links to free conference call.   A number of links,   on,   there as well. So,   wait a minute. Let me check something here. Yes. We're all good. Absolutely. Perfect. And all the buttons are right?   Yes. All the buttons all the buttons are correct.   I have not published the playback number yet,   for   the,   for the conference,   and and I'm gonna read off that that number,   right now,   just so it gets picked up by AI and it winds up in the transcript.  

The,   PPN   Studio   playback number   through free conference call is 6053134101.   6053134101.   And the access code   for this room   is 7854332.   Now if you picture in your mind the pattern on a telephone,   upper left corner, 785,   Go left 14332.   There's your access code. It's a memory key. 2KB. The winner will move to the branch Got her cuff. Final two.  

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Okay. Now this playback number,  

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is that why people can call in and it's a loop, twenty four hour loop on the show? Is that what I'm gathering here, or am I wrong? That playback number is they can call that number, and they can either specify an episode number, which we do not publish,   or they can hear   over a telephone the most recent   episode,   and it'll play the episodes backwards   in order. So if they just wanna dial up using, like, a landline phone because they're not on the Internet, they dial that number. They can hear the most recent program and then the program before that and then the program before that. They can hear that anytime they want, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.  

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We're getting pretty slick, aren't we?  

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Yeah. But, hopefully, we're not getting too big for our own britches.  

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Oh, I hope not. Hopefully.  

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Yeah. Okay. Well, I Alright. I instituted that because,   Dave, our, good friend from the thumb in Michigan, and Pam,   they brought us some people that don't have the Internet and don't have smartphones. All they have is dial up.  

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Really?  

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So,   I added that, so they were not excluded from the program.  

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I have to applaud and tip my hat to anyone that doesn't and and and goes through life without a cell phone today.  

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Yep.  

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Well, they may e Michael Jones e Michael, yeah, e Michael Jones doesn't have one. Go yes. Flip phone. Have a flip phone? I don't think they have a landline anymore. They pretty much eliminated landlines everywhere in the country. I mean, it's just what have they got against copper for god's sake? It's not what they got against copper. It's what they love about control, and they want you to have one of those little tethers   from umbilical cords to where they can suck your essence.   Yeah. Well, okay, Dave. I guess since you motivated some of this, we're gonna recognize   you. I mean, we've talked about you too. It's just   like, the rub a bottle and the genie comes out. Yes, genie?  



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That's funny.   Thank you, Paul. I appreciate what you did.   But I do have a landline still,   and and I got a flip phone.   My wife has a smartphone, but, she hates it. And our friend, he'd he has no,   Joe in Oklahoma. He   he, has a landline.   That's all.   He does have a computer, but they they changed something in his town.   And   now   he doesn't have,   he used to have a a wire that came to the house. They took it away, and they told him that it was gonna be a wire, and they brought this box.   And it was like U verse or something.   And, he's like, well, the guy said, oh, no. It's it's,   it's not, Wi Fi. And it was, and he had them take it away. So now he doesn't even have a wired computer anymore.  

And Joe, you know, he's he's been   one of the cofounders   or co   something, he's in the credits of some of those movies,   those documentaries about,   wireless and,   frequencies and stuff.   He has he got so sick   from   the frequencies   he was being attacked in his town. He has a $2,000   suit that he has to wear   when he's down and out, when he he goes to these things, and he he checks people's homes. He's got special meters and stuff.   And he him and his buddy, they his buddy's an engineer,   and they go around the country helping people   escape this,   this wireless   trap we're in, and, they help him fortify their homes. And,   he has to sleep under some kind of a, you know, like in in the Faraday cage. Like a Faraday cage. Yeah.  

It's like a net over the bed, you know, from mosquito net kind of thing.   But, yeah, he's, and he's 75 years old   and still fighting this thing, and,   he's a really good guy. So I do appreciate, and I'm sure he he appreciates what you did for him. So thank you.  

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You said is this the Joe our Joe?  

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No. No. It's different Joe. No. It's Joe Espivito, and, I'm not sure where I I think he's in   Oklahoma City near there.   What what   it's a w name, an Indian name of the town. But,   he's a good guy.  

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Alright. Well, it's unfortunate. Some people are really affected by that, either targeted or just hypersensitive.   I don't know   which, but, I've I've known some people over   the last twenty years that, claimed that was happening to them. We got a listener that says that too. So Do you know what I did? If that's the case, I'm sure sorry for you. They probably got that sheer,   cloth from,   from no e m f or   noemf.com,   I think, in that site.   Probably.   Yeah. I got some of the silver plated EMF, I think it is. Okay. Thank you, Lisa. Less EMF. And,   they've got plated cloths. I I think they've got more than just silver over there, but they've got plated cloths. And this was the cloth that doctor Flick,   had that he researched for twenty years and put out, and I was fortunate to   catch him at a low point. He needed somebody to represent that cloth, and he didn't couldn't pay anybody because he was they'd stolen all the money and, bad, bad employees. And so,   that's the reason we're here today and can do all that is those those historical events that happened twenty   five, twenty six years ago to me. But that stuff, everybody should have some of that. And I'm glad Lisa corrected me. Less e m f.  

I believe it's .com,   and it's the they plate silver cloth. Now the the   doctor Flick   originally   had   patents in The US and some countries around the world, not all of them, just The US mainly. And,   and he got all of the FDA approval as a device. It was approved by the FDA as a device. They can either approve things as a drug or a device.   And he got it approved, got all the patents, everything himself. And then, and then our buddies that like to go bomb countries everywhere, well, they stole it from him.   Went back, backdated all the contracts. I just despise these creeps.   Backdated all the contracts, got all the patents and everything else. He's broke, and, of course, they know that. And so if he ever did try to mount an assault on him, they just sued him. And,   you know, see, keep you down, law fair, law fair.  

Same bunch.   And now another bunch of those thieves   have stolen the company from the first bunch of thieves, I gather.   But, they had a, I tried to you know, we tried to market it here, see if we get our hands on it on the show. And there's only a couple of print platers printers, if you will, in the world that can plate cloth.   Okay. It's a very special process.   And the main ones are in South Carolina. The ones where these people's company that they stole now buys all that stuff. And they got them in a contract that said they wouldn't sell the plated cloth to anybody for any medical applications.   So you can't even go buy it. Okay? Except this les e m f. Lesemf.com   is not making any medical claims.  

I believe they have a grade of cost that says medical grade. Now I haven't been over to the site just from what you guys have told me.   But, that's probably what that guy's got over his bed is the,   some grade, probably even the sheer would keep that out.   Sheer when I say sheer,   when I first started working with doctor Flick, we had a a the consistency   was of a of a nylon stocking.   It's very, very sheer. And and here's the deal. You can plate   any cloth   that is,   that is   polyester.   You cannot plate cotton.   And the reason for that is on the molecule,   there's these little pegs on each side of polyester.  

And when the cloth goes through the process, it the the metal hangs on those two pegs.   And, you can continue to use it until the plating comes off, and they don't really know when that is. You can't see that with your eyes necessarily. But I know doctor Flick was a big, he liked to go to India. And he went over there a couple of times with the cloth, and and he said you could literally,   wash the cloth in the in the what's the big river over there?   The Ganges?  

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Yeah.  

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He said and it's a filthy river. Okay? And he said you could literally rinse the cloth off in the Ganges and put it back on at work.   So, anyway, it's miracle stuff, not only for medical applications,   but certainly for specialized usage just like this electromagnetic   thing over the bed.   I don't know how many different   types of cloth they've got available over there at Lesseumf,   but I'm gonna tell y'all. And I can go into a little bit more detail on it if you want for those who've not heard this before, but every one of you should have some of this in your home.   This stuff's the most miraculous   thing almost that I've ever touched. Okay?  

And,   if you want me to go over the reasons it works and how it works, I'll be happy to do that. But for any kind of banes, pains,   lacerations,   especially burns.   It there's nothing in the world that works on burns like this stuff does. Okay? Well, burn units I'm seriously.   Seriously. I'm talking about taking away the pain from a third degree burn totally in twenty minutes. No pain.  

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Burn units use a product called Silvadine. Silvadine.  

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And that is just a part silver,   and they usually put it in eyes of newborn   children.   But, yeah, nothing like this cloth. Okay? Right. The Silverdine cream can do nothing like this cloth.   And what it does is it works right along with God. It's God helping to heal your body by tricking the body   It's actually what it's doing. And so it's,   and the way he came about about this,   is when he was in, medical school,   his,   medical adviser,   and I'll think of his name in a second. He wrote a book that still got a cult following even all these years later called The Body Electric.   Has anybody ever heard of that? Mhmm.  

And it was I can't think of the guy's name, doctor   boy, I tell you, you're getting old.   So, anyway, it was he was, Flick was his medical.   The the doctor was his medical adviser.   It was up in Robert o Becker.   Thank you, mister Brent. Robert Becker.   And,   so, he,   he and another friend of his who had a   tried to invent a micro generator,   and get it patented. They were working on this Vietnam vet. I saw that I saw the x rays of this guy. He had had, I think, 17   previous operations on his leg below the knee, stepped on   a, a landmine or something over there.  

And the the guy's x-ray,   he looked like the bionic man. I mean, with screws and pins and all kinds of stuff. And it was at a condition where if they didn't save it on this operation, they're gonna amputate his leg from the knee,   down.   And so it was a critical operation, and Flick was a a student, and he watched it. And they damned if they didn't save the guy's leg.   And so, his thought was,   I'll bet that cloth will work and give off ions without that generator attached because that's what they did. They wrapped the guy's leg with this cloth, silver lawn, is what it's called,   and, attached this micro generator to help drive the silver ions off into the wound,   and it saved the guy's leg. And so he went ahead and graduated, and he set up a practice   of all places, Opelousas,   Louisiana.  

Opelousas, Louisiana.   And,   right in the middle of nowhere in the state. And so he was a doctor there, orthopedic surgeon for about twenty years. And the whole twenty years, he worked on this cloth, researching and all these patents and and all the things he did.   And, then he moved up to Clayton, Georgia,   above Atlanta, very right on the South Carolina border up there. White. It's not White County. It's some other county.   Anyway, I set up a practice and all that and,   went out and got investors,   to help, get the thing off the ground. And he hired the wrong people, and they stole all the money. And here's doctor Flick with this miraculous   product   and no no no funds. And that's when I crossed paths with him. And so he said this right before   y two k.  

And he said, well, listen. He I can't afford to pay you any salary. I just don't have the funds, but you can have all the commission you can get.   And so, I wasn't doing anything. Fortunately, I just married my   second wife and moved in with her and her mother, and they   fortunately for me, they handled all the expenses.   And I had already fought with the IRS and gotten out of the tax system.   At that point, didn't really didn't really understand why, but that had happened. And so here I move in with my new wife and,   man, I got no overhead at all.  

And so for then I hit Silverlawn, and all I had was just checks coming in the mail. We went out and started   working the expos back around y two k. You remember those?   And,   and we were always the hottest booth at the expo we were at.   But we'd have a a 100 or more people in our booth. And,   and so the,   the thing took off, and that's where I crossed paths with Jeff Bennett. And, Jeff Bennett saw an opportunity to make some money, which he's always interested in.   And,   so that's how he and I got to be better friends, and we sold the product over on his show and all that kind of stuff. So, anyway, did very well.   And being a student of e economics, and that's when I took I had no overhead at all.  

I mean, it's fair.   Imagine that, Paul. You get no overhead.   And and here I got this product that's just red hot.   And,   so I took all of those, profits and put it into gold. And that's why we can do this and offer these shows with no interruptions, and I don't care about your money and all that. This is the reason why. K? And so, anyway,   the, silver on cloth,   and I've got some pictures.   Before he got all the FDA approvals and all that, he was,   taking, of course, and using it in his practice.   But he was also documenting it, just impeccably,   camera date,   progress of the situation. I've got four sets   of pictures that just blow your mind. I mean, one of them, the guy got his finger pulled. He he worked over in White County, an adjacent county up there   in North Georgia. And, he worked at a company that built prison doors.  



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Mhmm.  

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And he got the end of his finger caught in a 4,000 pound press   and literally   pressed the end of his finger off. You could see the bone right in the middle.   Doctor Flick had their,   had their,   workman's compensation.   And so they got the guy over there to see Flick, and he wrapped it up in the cloth.   And the guy went back to work. He didn't work. He went back to the facility. He never took a day off ever. Never drew any unemployment,   any workman's comp, any of that stuff, and literally regrew his finger.   Literally regrew   the end of his finger. I've got the pictures. Okay? And one of the things that is amazing about it, when you see the end picture there   and his fingernails got dirt under it. And Flick says, well, that dirt under the fingernail is what's the important part here. Now you're looking at the finger being regrown and going,   wow. You know? And he says, that's not the important part. The important part is the dirt on the fingernail. You know why, Paul?  

No.   Because children can regrow   digits occasionally.   And, but many times when they do, the the nerve says it regrows it bundle at the end.   And it I think I think the medical term is a neuroma,   and it becomes very painful and they don't use it. And by evidence that the dirt under the fingernails shows that the guy was using it, and there's no neuroma.   K? It grew back perfectly. That's just one of them. I got the four sets of pictures that would just blow your mind. So here's what's going on, and this is why   if that site's up and they're still selling this stuff, it it would be very wise for everybody that's hearing these words. I don't know the, the cost of it,   but to get some of this. And the beauty of it is no matter what the cost is, it's reusable.  

K? So it's not just one and done. Alright?   And,   so what happens let's say you got a laceration,   Paul, a big cut on your forearm.   Well, the minute that laceration   occurs,   then the the   epidermis, the outer layer of skin, and a little bit of the tissue is disrupted and exposed.   And, evidently,   what causes the pain generation   is when there's no epidermis   and an electrical   current that flows through all of us, especially our outer skin.   When that's gone,   the nerve endings are exposed, and they then generate the pain impulse.   So when you put this cloth over this laceration,   and what happens immediately   is   because silver is the best conductor in the world, it recompletes the electrical circuit.  

That now the epidermis isn't gone. It's you've tricked the body because there's electricity   flowing through that cloth.   And so it senses   that the skin is back and the pain impulse stops. That's how it controls the pain.   And then on top of that, it starts releasing ions into the wound, sterilizing the wound. Nothing in the world, not even MSRA,   can grow on silver.   So it totally sterilizes   the wound.   And if you get it on there quick enough,   it stops swelling, and swelling is what eventually causes scarring.   So the three things that it does, it gets rid of pain. It it increases the healing time of the wound from a third to maybe even a half, depending on the individual, I guess.  

And then it keeps down swelling,   that eliminates   almost totally scarring.   So it's just wonderful,   wonderful product like gals that are pregnant and, you know, they don't hardly do natural births anymore.   So they're doing a lot of c sections because the doctor doesn't wanna miss his t time.   And,   so you could take that scar and use it on that. It'll greatly diminish that scar   and all kinds of stuff. The stuff has got incredible across the board, 360   degree application   on the most amazing things that you never think it would work on.   So, I would recommend I don't know how much to tell you to get. You usually don't need a whole lot.  

I keep I've always got it with me. Okay? I've always got some of what I've brought with me with me, although I've given away a bunch of it.   But, like, for instance, if you got a small cut on your finger or a burn or something, go get a Band Aid, pull that center part out. There's a little bit of stickiness left where it attached,   and cut a small piece of this silver on and put it on there and put it on the wound. And whatever the ailment is, it'll be if there's pain and stuff, it won't be there tomorrow.   If it's a burn, if it's a cut, any of that stuff, and you put that on there, you may get a little tinge of it the next day depending on how quickly you got it on there, but there will be very little pain from those. There's a little nuance things that happen around the house, you know. And, so I'd highly encourage you to, to get some and go check it out. I don't know the grade that generally, the thicker   cloth that you can get, the better it will work.  

And, the cloth will have a shiny side and a not so shiny side,   and you always put the shiny side on the on the wound. Okay.   Now you wanna cheat on that, Paul?   I Would you like to cheat that a bit? I've never been a cheater.   Alright. Well, you might be when you get your pockets a little bit thin,   because aluminum foil will do the same thing almost.   Right. Well Now you want the shiny   okay. Hold on. You can take the shiny side of the aluminum,   and should you have that laceration or that burn,   you put the same thing on. Now it will it it will be enhanced   in your results if you have some colloidal silver   because the combination of the two   will will almost make it as good as the cloth. But if you don't have any cloth around and you get one of these burns or a cut or something, take some aluminum foil   and,   just wrap it around it or be sure to have the shiny side on it. And I think you'll be amazed at the results. It's too bad Harvey isn't around because he had a great story of a waitress, a single mom, and sprained her foot real bad and couldn't work.  

And, that's,   what they what they did. He told her, we use this aluminum foil. Bam. Cured everything. She was back at work on her feet. Right. So, anyway, there's a little tip for you. Now, Paul, what were you gonna say? Well, that's what I was gonna say is,  

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you should always have colloidal silver gel.   They make it, with aloe vera.  

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Yeah.  

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And they infuse   the colloidal silver into the aloe vera gel.   And just always have that around because any kind of a a wound or whatever you have, you put that on the wound and then you cover that with aluminum foil, tape it on with,   with either athletic or medical tape, and just leave it there and just ignore it. Just forget it. It's there. But you want that insulation   between the aluminum and your skin because you don't want the aluminum to leach into your skin. That that's the only thing that you don't want to have happen.  

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Okay.   If if that could. Anyway, I'm telling you, if in a in a in a emergency situation, if that's the case, you can use that. I don't believe there's any drawback to it. Anyway, the best thing to do is to look over at less EMF.   They're not a sponsor. I'm just telling you just it's the only other place I know of.   Because if you try and buy this silver lawn from the the company these bastards stole, you're gonna pay through the through the nose for a little two inch by two inch square. Okay? Yeah. So don't don't fall into the Jew trap.   God, how do you how do you not fall into the Jew trap in this life? God almighty.  

So anyway,   that, the way to start the show, thanks for bringing that up. I like to, especially right now. I mean, folks, we've never been closer to a worldwide catastrophe than we are today. Exactly. Yeah. I did I did have one other thing.  

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I'd no.   One second, please, Mary. I did have one other thing.   Like,   as far as sleeping, how I address the EMF problem with my bed   is between my mattress and my box spring,   I have 30   microwave oven magnets that are all positioned   north pole down, south pole up.   And what that created   was a static   magnetic field over the bed,   and that's what I sleep in. And I have a five g router five feet away from my head   Yikes. In my bedroom, and it does not bother me.  

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At least I don't see. There's also a way to ground your your mattress,   if you're have that ability and and,   put some sort of a I can't remember. They put copper or whatever, and then they ground that out to a little nail or something. You can sleep on a grounded bed. Larry, what do you got?  

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I was just gonna ask, does the, does the silver cloths and that that you're promoting and I'm I'm does the aloe vera   silver gel that that,   Paul's promoting prevent infection at the same time? You know how, like, a wound will get puffy and full of water? If you if you put anything between the cloth and the skin, you're not gonna get the effect.  

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K? It's got to touch the skin and have that electrical field flowing over it.   Okay?   So that's the answer I'd give you. I don't know if that answers your question or not, not, but that's straight from doctor Flick. I can tell you the one thing   that you don't wanna do with the silver cloth is get it in around salt water.   Salt water and hydrogen peroxide   will just totally strip the cloth of the silver. Absolutely.  

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Yeah. Okay. Colloidal silver and hydrogen peroxide,   react,   generates heat, and the silver is consumed by the peroxide.   Yeah. The thing with the, colloidal   silver   aloe gel   is the gel itself is conductive, and the silver infused in the gel is conductive. And then you put the aluminum foil over that, which is conductive.   There's   it's not   insulating   the metal from the skin. It's actually   connecting the metal to the skin through a,   through a, what what do they call that? Liquid.   It's,   a conductive liquid.  

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As it applies to the cloth, the cloth's got to touch the skin. This is my understanding from Flick years ago.   And, of course, what doctor Flick has done since, they stole his company, tried to fight him. Every time he tried to mount some kind of an offense, they'd come and hit him with a countersuit and bury him.   And so he just finally threw up his hands and,   started his own frequency,   investigation. He just loves research, and   and, he's come up with his own frequency device and his own, you know, protocols and all that stuff. And that's why I like the wand so much   is because his thing is uses rife type frequencies, not terahertz waves.  

And, you got to go through quite you gotta download a master program and hook the little deal up to the computer and put new programs in for the ailments, and then it's hard to difficult in places on the body to get the,   the little discs attached and all that kind of stuff. That's what makes the wand,   so fabulous.   It's idiot proof, really.   All you do is turn it on and point it. Okay? So,   and it does all kinds of stuff, and you don't have to change all the frequencies and this, that, and the other. So that's another buttress to that product. And like I said, doctor Flick, he's a brilliant doctor.   Brilliant guy, kind of eccentric and,   but a heck of a nice guy. And,   he's,   still practicing up there in Clayton, Georgia. What we had some of our listeners   are are his patients.  

We heard from a while back that live up there in Clayton.   So, anyway, enough of that. Mark, you're with us today. That's a, a good I'll we always like to see you on and off day here.   Yeah. Okay. Hold it. Somebody's got something. Yes, sir?  

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Yeah. Samuel.   The silver cloth   has come way down in price, and they can pretty much   use nano deposition to plate   any type of fabric now. Okay. And it's a lot I mean, you can go on Amazon and just either put in,   Faraday   cloth or silver conductive cloth.   And you can buy this stuff for the cost of a t shirt.  

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Okay. Well, that's it. High quality silver.   Right? Okay. Yeah. They started using it in a lot of hospitals and, operating gowns and stuff for the operating room.   Have now silver threads with it,   upholstery for all the seats in the hospital and all that. They've redone that in some of them with,   it doesn't have to be as pure. They just have one thread every five or 10 threads that's silver, and it still works good,   is my,   understanding,   Samuel, but it's being used in a lot of applications.  

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Yeah. Like I said, the price it used to be difficult to do this type of plating and,   but with nano deposition, they they can pretty much,   you know, do this on a massive scale.   And they've got all kinds of different,   applications   now   that or or processes that they use. Yeah. It's it   that's what's making it relatively inexpensive.   Okay. Well because they also don't have to use a whole lot of silver to plate it. So Yeah. And that's good because all the silver I've got  

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from those days   was plated when, silver was three fifty an ounce.   It's   I think the last week, week before last, silver was the third highest it's ever been, about $36   in that range.   Not sure what it is today,   but, it's gonna be a little bit more expensive. So it's good they've got these new processes to keep the price down. Take advantage of it, folks. This is something everybody   listening to me should have in your household. If especially   if the prices drop that much,   just get some and have it around. You'll be you'll thank me, hopefully not. But one of these days, should you have one of these, little accidents or something, you'll thank me.   I mean, it's incredible with those pictures. One of them was a gal   that got t boned at a, four four way stop. Somebody ran the stop and t boned her, and her she went through this the windshield with her forehead.  

And Flick, she'd also broken a femur. So that's why Flick was in to do the orthopedics   on the femur.   And,   so so he said, you wanna put some of this cloth on your score on your forehead? And it was two pretty two, three damn pretty long lacerations.   And she said yes.   And, later on after she'd been cured,   got down the hospital, and they asked her if she wanted plastic surgery. And she turned it down. There was so little scarring there.   Another one of those four cases was a   well, Clayton's up in the mountains. Yeah. Paul, do you ever see the movie Deliverance?  

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Yeah. Unfortunately.  

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Well, that's where it was filmed, was Clayton, Georgia.   Right above that is the Chattooga River, and the Chattooga River is the   border between South Carolina and Georgia at that point. That's where they filmed that thing. So you get an idea of the surroundings and whatnot.   Anyway, it's a lot of people from Atlanta go up there and camp, and there's   we saw neat stuff around their lakes, etcetera.   Well, somebody's up there camping on fourth of July weekend. They had a young, I don't know, a two year old or something, and he rolled   into the fire.  

And you can imagine,   he might even been younger than two.   And so they're outside of town a little ways at their campground. They   fly into town. Everything's closed because it's fourth of July except the pharmacy. And the pharmacist says, well,   doctor Flick has got this cloth. He lives right down that road down there, you know, second house on the right or whatever. And,   so here she is with this screaming child.   Hands, feet, and leg on the calves are where the third degree burn was because they rested up against a hot rock.   So you can imagine the effect of that, but burn's the most painful injury you can get just about.  

And so, anyway, Flick,   comes down. He has a clinic underneath his house, their little clinic room, and he takes him in there, and he wraps the child up with the silver on. And in twenty minutes, the child is asleep in mom's arms.   I mean, that's this pain deadening effect.   And,   he gave her some cloth,   and she never took that child to the hospital ever. Just treated it with the cloth, and there's no scars.   Okay?   Just   amazing things. Alright? And I and the pictures document everything. Stuff's for real. You'd be very wise   with this insight I'm giving you today,   my unique insight of working with this stuff. I mean, I'll tell you right out front, Paul, I saw miracles, man. I mean, I saw miracles with this stuff.  

And, that's the degree it is and what it's really doing. It's pretty simple.   Just a real slick way to trick the body into thinking that they've got the,   the electronic feel back.   That's it.   So, anyway   yes. Larry?  

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Yeah. What's the shelf life of this silver cloth and what activate Forever. Forever. Dip it in water. Forever.  

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You don't have to dip it in water.   And,   but you can. And if you do wet it, it the effects start a little quicker. The water accelerates it. Don't dip it in salt water.  

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K? Or salt water. And  

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is there a website,   that that you mentioned,  

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what you're getting to show? I might have missed it. Well, I I the name of the product was the website. These bastards have stolen it.   Silverl0nsilverlawn.com   if you wanna   go see what they're up to. I haven't been over there in years. I don't know what's going on. But,   it it the other one that I mentioned where you can buy it when you're not buying it from these thieves is less   e m f dot com.   Less   I believe that's the case. Lessemf.com.   And if not, you can't find it there. You can as Samuel suggested with the reduced cost of production evidently with these new technical processes.   Just go into a search engine and put so what do you suggest?  

Samuel silver cloth or   you had a couple of suggest.   Faraday cloth possibly.   But I think less EMF is up, and they've got a what they call a medical grade. There's a link to that one in the chat, Rogers. Okay. Thank you, Lisa. There's a link in the chat. And,   you don't,   you   you you you're not they won't state is gonna help this, that, and the other because they can't sell it or else they infringe upon the patents that these sorry bastards stole.   K? So, anyway, anybody else have any questions on that? Yes, sir?  

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You said silverwand.com?  

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No.   Silverlon,   l o n.  

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You know, like teflon.  

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And then lessemfislessemf.com.  

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I believe that's right, Larry,  

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whoever that is. And does Paul could Paul recommend   a website to go to to find a a a low priced, good quality silver gel?  

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No. You just go to a you make your own colloidal silver, make it between twenty and thirty parts per million, and then you go to your neighborhood Walgreens and find the most organic and natural   aloe vera gel you can find and mix it up.  

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Or you grow you an aloe vera plant and  

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purify that.   There you go.  

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If you were down here in Ecuador, you you they're every 10 feet somewhere. Yeah. Just step outside the door.   Yep.   Yep. So, anyway, enough of that. It was a spontaneous topic that came up there at the start, but it's something I'm glad we got to cover again.   So I can urge all of you to get some on hand because   you get one of these situations.   And if it's bad enough, you're gonna have to go to the hospital or do something, and this takes care of all of that at home   very inexpensively  

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and totally thoroughly. K? And if you want a   microwave oven,   magnet   field on your bed,   go to eBay and search for microwave   oven   magnets or magnetron   magnets.   Get 20 or 30 of them   and use a compass and identify   which side is the south pole   and place that   up.   So that south pole goes through the mattress and into you while you're sleeping.  

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There you go. Okay. So the health segment today was very interesting.   Yeah. Anybody got any other questions on SilverLawn?  

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Yes. Or they need Just set a set them out in a grid   on the box spring   about eight inches apart.   Mhmm. And you just build yourself a a magnetic field, and you put the mattress down on top of it. They never move, and it's all good.  

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And and for Thora, tell Ed about this if he hadn't heard about this already.   This is something he ought to incorporate into his practice. He'll be very glad he did. Okay?   And I'm not sure how much this knowledge is out there, quite frankly.   It's just because I worked with the product for four years.   And,   I I mean, I'm not kidding you. When I tell you I saw miracles, buddy, I saw miracles. Okay? We had one of in in Denver,   at the expo right it was, like, one of the last ones before y two k. And we went out there, and we had a big booth, and there was,   close to or more than a 100 people. The doctor Flick was with us at that one. And so,   there's people in this big semicircle in front of our, in front of our booth right there, and we're showing it and talking about it and stuff. And there's a gal in the back   who had her arm bandaged in a sling.  

And so,   doctor Flick,   got her over there, and she wouldn't even let him touch it. Okay? And finally, through his, doctorly bedside manner,   got her to a point where she unwrapped the gauze, and he wrapped some silver on around that arm, that forearm,   and put it back in the sling. And she went off,   doing the expo. And in in twenty, thirty minutes, there she is at the back of the crowd waving her hands and going, I got no pain. I got no pain.   So that that's the kindest of results this thing has. It's miraculous. So get some. So evidently not as expensive as it used to be. And, you would,   you would do yourself proud   if you went out there and acquired some. And when you have some experience   and get a chance to use it, then come back and thank us on the air for   saving you all that money and that pain. K?  

So, there we go. Mark, you're with nobody's got any more questions on that?  

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Well, I have I have one more thing to add about the static magnetic field   is   electromagnetic   waves,   are at a different polarity   and a different direction   than   the Schumann resonance,   which is 7.83   Hertz from the Earth. It's the magnetic resonance between the Earth and the ionosphere.   Well, that static magnetic field   under you actually focuses the Schumann resonance and allows it to flow through the area   where it creates   like a wind wall. You know, you walk into a grocery store or a department store that has wide open doors at 20 degrees, and there's this   column of air that blows down   that's heated. And on one side of the column of air, you got freezing temperatures, and on the inside of the air, you've got   the ambient temperature of the building.  

Well,   I believe   I believe this is just conjecture, but I believe that the static magnetic field does the same thing with   the Schumann resonance. It allows that magnetic field to pass through your mattress, but it does not allow the EMF from the side, the horizontal   wave   penetrate that area. That's what I think. That's what I suspect.   And his cat will testify to it. She loves sleeping on the bed. I'm telling   you. That's her favorite place to be.  

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Okay. So nobody's got any other questions there or comments about that.   Mark, good to have you with us on Tuesday.  

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Well, good to be here.   I'm not gonna be able to make it tomorrow,   so  

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I thought I'd jump on and join you guys today. Okay. Did you get the message I sent you this morning?   No. Where did you send it to? WhatsApp. The only communication we've got left besides email.   Okay. Let me tell you what happened. I thought that's why you were here.   Yesterday,   a gentleman named Mike, who's a four or five year listener,   had maybe called in a time or two. I don't remember speaking with him, but I speak with a lot of people here.   And, he called in and said that him he works for FedEx like Larry,   and him and a couple of his   coworkers in that depot somewhere in Ohio, I think, had gone through the process, and they file all their paperwork, and they just listen,   quite often.  

And so, what happened was they got a CP 59,   and Mike answered it and did everything on his own, didn't contact us. Is that comfortable with the info?   And they the IRS came back to FedEx   and said, oh, I think all three of the people in the depot,   they can't they they can't they've gotta take taxes out of their paycheck.   And the company said, we ain't fighting the IRS for you, which none of them are gonna do. K? And so evidently,   the first thing that came to my mind I hope you're listening, Mike. Maybe you have a chance to chime back in if I've got anything incorrect   here. But, the,   first,   thing they I told them was to well, just   suck it up. Sorry they're doing this. We've never seen them do this before.  

But, evidently, it's getting critical enough to where they're   gonna try anything.   And so they went back and told FedEx to,   stop withholding.   And I said, well, next year, you can just file a ten forty n r.   And so as I thought about it overnight,   which wouldn't be that big a deal, but what about next year when they file the c the, ten forty n r if they, like, start giving them crap about that and not paying it or something? We don't know that's That shouldn't Well, you could take them to court. Thing properly. That shouldn't be a problem. Right. Well, you would you could take them to court over that one because the tax has already been paid. They would the withholding Right. Was taken. Yep. But I wondered if they couldn't. And, Mike, I don't know how deep you wanna get into this,   but couldn't they go back to the IRS and say,   where's   what's my,   my administrative   appeal? Next step in my administrative appeal and try the, appeal route with IRS?  



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Yeah. Absolutely. You know, it really comes down to this. When you try to exempt,   withholdings for federal income tax,   it's I didn't owe a tax last year and I don't expect to owe a tax this coming year.   Those are the two   things that you have to have in place to be able to   meet their qualifications   for being exempt   from tax withholding.   So yeah, I would definitely you know if they push it to   have an administrative hearing on that, they can request   that. Now one thing I've thought about this is we've we've run into problems, especially with third party,   payroll services.  

Yes. I'm trying to think of some of the name of those companies.   Off the top of my head, I just don't recall them. But,   you know, they're not set up with options to to say you're a national. And if you select   nonresident alien,   then they're gonna hit you with a 30% withholding. Quickly.  

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Yeah.   ADP   Paychex, c h e x. That's just a couple of the big ones.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Paycom's another one.   Paycom's got their name on the   on the arena that the Oklahoma City Thunder basketball team plays in, by the way.   We had a marvelous game last night,   And they're one game away from winning the NBA championship.   I mean, it's been pretty exciting because,   Indiana Pacers   and Oklahoma City Thunder are just really   at the top of their game and   the athleticism   is just ridiculous.   Yeah. But, anyway,   I've been thinking about this quite a bit on the   stopping the withholding. And here's the deal. If   you   are in the middle of a tax year and you you   contact your employer and you go exempt,   I think   it kicks a flag in the IRS system   to have that looked into.  

But if you were to wait at the end of the year,   the December,   then I don't believe   the   computer systems   know whether you're still working there or if you left.   Because it starts this whole new cycle.   And you might be able to do that at a quarterly   period. You know that's when the employer is reporting this. But if you're in the middle of a   tax cycle,   I think it kicks off something where the IRS looks into it. And   folks, you gotta realize   there are   millions   and millions   of all this flowing through the through the IRS.   And you're thinking that there's some mean nasty IRS agent   looking at all your paperwork. It don't work like that. It's getting scanned into a computer system   or directly   digital   from your employer and so forth and the algorithms,   these computer software   are scanning all this information and if they see something that is questionable   it kicks it out.  

Or it sends you just   a boilerplate   letter with a CP number on it like CP59   and that's not really looked at by anybody.   They don't there's not enough time in the day   for an agent or even hundreds of agents or even thousands of agents   to be able to sit down, review your case   and send you a letter from them. Yep. It just didn't work that way. Yep. This is a big machine,   and they spit out letters left and right through an automated system.   And so   now, you know, the burden's on you to respond back,   but that's what's going on. So don't don't feel like you're somebody special   getting treatment from the IRS.  

You're just you're just falling into that system   and once you get flagged they're gonna keep doing that until somebody,   either till you provide the information they want   or until somebody an agent actually steps in and looks at your situation   which you also have a taxpayer advocate group   and   you can contact them for assistance. You may or may not get help with them   you know, because they they've all been told that if you don't pay taxes, you're some some sovereign Yo. You're a monster. Yeah.   Yeah. You're just horrible. So You didn't pay your fair share.   Yeah. I I think I would revisit that at the end of the year and and file another exempt.  

And the way I would do it is find you know, determine when that last   check that you're gonna receive in December   right before you roll over to the new year   and then file a new exempt. Now if you're already on your radar that may not fly, your employer may not accept it. So then you're going to have to go back to the IRS   and and ask them   to,   give you exempt status. And again, that's all gonna fall back on. Were you exempt from taxes last year and do you expect to be exempt from taxes this year? Or should say not owe.   Not owe. I didn't owe taxes last year. Don't don't expect to owe taxes this coming year.  

You know, let's stop the withholding. That's ridiculous.   And,  

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that's the way I would go about that. Mike, I hope you and your buddies are listening today to get this,   and I, I would   I think Larry came back because Larry works for the same people there. Larry, you haven't heard of any them doing that to anybody else at, that place, have you?  

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No. But, I'm probably the only national where I work.   And, one thing I wanted to add was,   so Mark understands   that FedEx uses ADP,   and Yeah. All you gotta do is, they have a program, an application.   The FedEx has an application program called   Workday,   and I believe I believe it belongs to FedEx. And so you take your employee number   and your password, which is renewed every so often,   and you log in to Workday,   and   you,   you can go to your w four document.   And it's just a it's an electronic document, and it has a little checkbox, and you put Exempt. Right. Put a check mark in there for exempt. Yeah. And from my understanding,   the they they,   prevented Mike from going back in there. I don't see how they can do that.  

But so far, I haven't had any problems.  

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Okay. Well, Mike, if you There have been some other people that have issues with ADP,   and they were scared to death of, you know, checking the box if they're a US citizen because   they didn't have an option for national.   And again if you select non resident alien,   they hit you with an immediate 30% withholding according to IRS rules.   So this person just went ahead and selected   US citizen and went exempt, and they never had any problems.   Okay. But, you know, these are isolated cases. Your mileage may vary.  

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Well, there's a bone. There there's an equivocation   you could pick with them if they tried to give you any crap over you checking US citizen is I'm a citizen of The United States Of America. That's true.  

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Mhmm.  

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So, yeah, you can we can play that we can play that game too.  

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Yeah. And and, you know,   remind   your   this whole system,   this whole government system is designed to get you under federal control.   Yep. And they don't give you an option   national even though we know that's a legitimate status.   Right? That's,   under the immigration and naturalization   act.   The the definition,   right, that's that's eight CFR,   eleven oh one   paragraph   a paragraph 21   is is a national is somebody who owes allegiance   to a small s state which is one of the 50 states   of the union that make up The United States Of   America.  

That's right. You you need to know the difference between USA   and US.  

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I promise you, if they coulda hidden it any deeper, they'da hidden it deeper. They can't hide it any deeper than putting that one obscure definition   in the Nationality Act of 1940,   the very first one, definition a.   So you'll look right over it, not even think about it, and then they codified it over there in title eight.   And unless you understand   allegiance for protection and,   protection for allegiance, you don't understand that sentence. You'll read right over it.  

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Yep.   And that allegiance for protection is in that half percent case. Yes.   You can read that, and it specifically   talks about   that, whoever you owe your allegiance to   has a duty to provide you protection.  

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That is not a choice. It's not an option. It's a requirement. Nope.   Yep.   And there's one place we've really got teeth. If we can ever get to a point where we can hold the governor or the sec or the attorney general's feet to the fire, that's what you'd go after him on right there.   Yep. You did not give me and afford me the protection,   due, and owing when I changed my status.   Shame on you. It ain't a choice. It's an obligation.   It's a duty. Sorry.  

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And and you have a a US Supreme Court case to back that up. Yep. I mean, it's we're not just pulling this out of thin air.   So if if,   an entity, a government entity from   a small s state tries to say that   they don't owe you any protection,   well, that's not what the Supreme Court of the United States says. For a thousand years, you've established  

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a lawful and legal theory.   Yeah. Yeah. Common law. Yep. Yep. So, anyway, there's a yes. There's some I was gonna ask for questions, and you popped right up there. Yes, sir.  

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It's William in Augusta. Hey, William.   Hey. I just wanted to point out that a ADP,   Paychex, all these companies, they're just payroll administrators.  

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Yeah.  

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And they're working they're working for the   accounting department or the accountant,   for your company. So Yep. When when I submitted the w eight b e n, I had to I couldn't do that through ADP.   I had to submit it to the accounting department or the accountant for our company.   Yeah. And then, they push they push back at first and said, oh, no. You're you're supposed to fill out a a w four. And I said, well, I'm a nonresident alien individual,   and this is the form that nonresident alien individuals file. And she said, oh, okay. And,   and put it in there for me. And then she had to go in   and tell ADP that I was a nonresident alien and that this form had been filed. Like, you have to go   you can't go through these administrative   companies. You have to go through your  

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accounting department at your employer. I just wanna point out Or your human resources   department as they like to call it.  

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Right. Well and your your mileage may vary with that too because you have some employers that are more scared to death of the well, they're all more scared to death of the IRS than they are of you. Yep. Right.   Just keep in mind, your your mileage may vary between   your employer and your payroll   company.  

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So Are there any suicide tendencies?   You know, they're,   Robert Kennedy's   talking about,   prohibiting   pharmaceutical   advertising   in The US. We're one of the only two countries that does it. And I hope like and elite does.  

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I do. I'm so sick of seeing those commercials and,   you know, they're they're helping fund the   the Libtards.  

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Of course. And, and the network is without more crap. I mean, it's it's just it's like the insurance agency in the medical.   It's just an upward spiral where you continue to pay. Here here's an example of one of our buddies down here. Remember when I was sick a couple of weeks ago?   Well, all all three of my lunch buddies,   got it. Same time, I didn't get it from me. I was I wouldn't,   I couldn't spread anymore, I don't think.   But regardless, one of them had had a a heart attack,   a while back, and so he's very conscious of that sort of thing. And he got a lot of fluid in his lungs. And so he went to the hospital here, the new hospital, same one I went in with my friend.   He was over there. The doctor,   because he'd had a previous heart attack, the doctor wanted to hold him over,   a day. Well, he ended up over the whole weekend.  

So he's in this most modern hospital in the country.   Nurses,   nice people all over him, whatever they   shot him up with, the food,   the doctors were there, you know, just all over him all the time. Guess what the bill was for two days? Top number one hospital in the country,   all the everything with it, you know, even COVID tests and everything else. What do you think his bill was?  

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I have no idea. $2,000?  

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Am I gonna hate you for an answer?  

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Yes. About right at twenty 2,200,   I think.   Wow. Now when I went up there, I was in there for a week. I don't remember if I was in there for five or seven days. One of them. Three operations,   all the same crap he went through. Well, my bill was only $10.   Three operations now.   Wow. K.   So there's the difference in a country that doesn't use that same,   formula as The US does where all the damn insurance companies,   and all they do is accelerate the price. Now with me,   you know, I hate insurance.   I'm like George Gordon.   George Gordon used to say, I hate insurance because I hate limited liability.  

And I I want personal responsibility.   And if I harm you and I can't make you whole,   drill a hole in my ear, and I'll be your slave.   K? Yeah. And so I feel the same way. I pay I hate insurance,   but I had to have it to have my residency down here when I had it for a couple of years. Yep. And I there was only one company because of my age that would insure me.   And the damn bastards went bankrupt on me when I had that foot operation. I had to carry the whole thing.   On my buddy's credit card because he had put up his credit card thinking we had valid insurance.   The hospital wouldn't take that insurance. And so I'm sitting there with, you know, $10,000   whapping along at about 20%   APR.  

So, I I even hate insurance companies even more now.  

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My pet.  

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So, anyway but I wanted to make the point is   dirt cheap for absolutely   top flight   medical attention. Yeah. Hold on. Julie was first. Yes. Jules, what have you got for us?  

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Yeah. I just wanted to ask Mark. Hey, Mark. Can you spell that US Supreme Court case to back up the allegiance,   for protection? How do you spell that again? I wanna go back and read that.  

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It is   let me pull it up because I get them turned around a little bit. It's either half percent versus minor   or minor versus half percent if you I think it's that one.   Haphaper set versus minor? No. The other one. No. They're re reverse. Just a moment here. And   haphaper set, I believe, is h a p p e r,   s e t t. It's minor   versus   haphapersett, m I n o r   v   haphapersett,   h a p p. That's papa papa,   e r s,   e as in echo, t as in tango, t as in tango.   Thank you very, very much. You're welcome. You got the site on that? It's a great case. Pardon me?  

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You got the the site number?  

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Something US? Bear with me just a moment. I'll pull it up. Okay. It's 88,   which is the US Supreme Court, US 162,   and that's from the Supreme Court in 1875.  

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Wow. Back when they knew this stuff a little bit.  

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Yeah. Exactly.   You want me to read the short citation  

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I pulled out of this? Well, yeah. Please please read it for the audience that might not heard this before. This goes back to us as Supreme Court cases, Mark said, from the eighteen seventies,   and it goes back and touches on and and buttresses this   protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection,   which is the base formula for jurisdiction that comes from the feudal system. It's a thousand years old at least.  

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Yeah. Yeah. So   one of the citations   from from that case,   if you go and read it,   one of the section says and I and I just love the way this is cited or the way the court stated this.   There cannot be a nation without a people.   The very idea of a political   community,   such as a nation is, implies an association   of person   for the promotion   of their general welfare.   Each one of the persons   associated becomes a member of the nation formed by the association.   He owes it he owes it allegiance   and is entitled to its protection.   Allegiance and protection   are   in this connection   reciprocal   obligation.  

The one is compensation for the other,   allegiance for protection,   and protection for allegiance.   Folks. That's minor v.  

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That's there's not there is not one other   patriot teacher   that will ever be able to tell you that information.   Yeah. But it was a know it. Law.   Yep. Hey, Julie.  

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Mark and   Mark and, Roger,   nationalstatus.info.   I think Dave just posted in the,   chat room for,   the FCC room. You can pre preempt any pushback from your employer from not stopping withholding by completing the my e verify process and give them the screenshot.   And the link is in there, but it's https//myeverify.uscis.gov.   And you fill that out and take that,   screenshot to them, and they're not allowed to   do that withholding.  

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Alright. Let's cover that again. I think that's new info. Alright. Hold on, Julie. That's new information to me.   Here seems to be a remedy where you can run an end run around their roadblock they're trying to throw up on you. What did you you go to this website, my   Yep. Everify.whatever.   Hold hold on. She's gonna give it. Hold on. Let's say it slowly. A, for the computer Okay. So that the AI can pick it up. And b, if anybody wants to write hold on, Julie, just so I know you're hold on. If we but pull her back from the starting line just a little bit. And, if   you're wanting to write this down and this applies to you, Julie's gonna give it to us again very slowly so the computer   and you   can write it down. Now   ready,   aim, go. H.  



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K. H as in hello,   t as in Tom,   t as in Tom,   p as in Paul,   s as in Sam,   colon,   forward slash,   forward slash,   m as in mother,   y as in yellow,   e as in elephant,   v as in victory,   e as   in elephant,   r as in ready,   I as   in idiot,   f as in Frank,   y as in yellow,   dot   u   as in United,   s as in states,   c as in cat,   I as in idiot,   s as in Sam,   dot   gov   forward slash.   Shall I repeat it one more time? No. Yeah. But don't do it phonetically. That just screws it all up. Yeah. Yeah. Just just pace it. Why don't I do it? I'll do it fast. Okay. Well, don't h  

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Okay. No. And and and you we don't need the HTTP. He just He front. It's my everify what?  

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It's my everify dot u s   c   I s   dot gov.  

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Okay. Now once you go on there, what what have you been on this and gone through this? Or it sounds like you have. I just typed  

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I just,   I just went on it. It says protect your identity, track your everify case, learn your rights, and confirm your own employment eligibility. It's easy and free, and you create an account.  

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Folks, every one of us should do that if you got a job and you're tied into this withholding stuff through one of these services.   You need to listen to what Julie just went over and go do it for yourselves. It sounds like the run around the blockade to me.  

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Yeah. And, Imran Thank you. This is thanks to nationalstatus.info   with Oh, thank you, Dave. Dave who's in the audience. Thank you very much. The m a k.  

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Know what that means, Mark? It's   no. I don't. Well, in Spanish, if anything at the end, if it's little, you put.   K? So   and and is kisses, so that means little kisses. So there you go. Alright. Supposed to say you're supposed to say.   Is   what I say, and they recognize it. You say.  

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You forgot the hug.  

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Well, right. Brazos is arms.   Kisses. We're gonna have a Spanish hug. What? We've had science. Now we're doing IRS, and then we're gonna have Spanish lessons. So And don't tune.  

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Don't don't say hugs and kisses. Don't say hugs and kisses. I did that. It did not go well for me. Love you.  

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Don't do not say I love you long time. Okay?  

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Roger.   Roger. I have to I have to correct you. You have to learn the word   toilet or bathroom. It's bano. It's not bano. It's bano in Spanish. Well, it's got that little wiggly.  

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It's got that little wiggly thing over it. Yeah. Well, she's never even bano. She's never even lived in a Spanish country before, so she's a textbook Spanish speaker.   She's done pretty damn good learning. Listen. She's done good learning that language that well too, I can tell you. It's,   it's not an easy language to learn. Yes, Larry. Hey.  

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Before before you jump there, can I just I need to tie in real quick what, Julie provided?   You need to do that preemptively.   I don't know what'll happen if you go back now and do your everify,   which I would still recommend doing. But if you're going to go exempt   from withholding taxes,   I would go out to nationalstatus.com,   which will take you over to the .info website.   And underneath   remedy, there's a section for internal revenue service.   And in there,   Dave and Kaye, who've done a marvelous job on that website,   has it laid out step by step how to go through the everify.  

And, basically, you're you're prequalifying   yourself. You're preregistering   yourself   on my everify to show that you have the right to work in The United States.   And then from there, you know, you can apply to be exempt  

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for your employees.   Mark Mark, they're also recommending that you take a screenshot or print that out once you get it with you to your employer so that that step that's already taken care of. I understand. But my point is is that website has it laid out step by step. So don't just go to the myeverify  

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website on your own thinking you're going to accomplish what you want.   I strongly recommend that you look over Dave and Kay's   step by step process on their website   on the on the e verification   before you approach your employer to go exempt.  

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So I go Next slide. Hand them your screenshot. You say, please put this in my file. Yes, Paul.  

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Yes. I'm sitting on the E Verify website right now, my everify.uscis.gov,   and it has a couple of,   information,   things that have popped up.   The first one is the following features are temporarily   unavailable,   and, they list self check   as one of the features that are temporarily unavailable. And,   also,   myeverify   enables you to view your everify case history,   resolve cases,   lock your SSN,   and confirm your employment eligibility.   My E Verify does not enable you to change your citizenship   or immigration   status.  

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Oh, you change your citizenship status. Can you do that?   It does not allow all these people are telling me you can't do that.  

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It does not allow it does not enable you to change your citizenship or immigration status. Be darned. Nope. You gotta do that through our process.  

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We're the only ones that I know of that's got it down to a fine art.   And outside of these   little ridiculous situations like Mike and his buddies are having or one of these traffic situations, we don't have any blowback   ever   because what you are is your decision,   not theirs. That's what they're trying to hide from you.  

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My my question is is how do you inform E Verify that you're a national?  

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They have to take your word for it. They you you isn't there some way to check that in there?  

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I don't know. I haven't gone in and done it. I think Oh, okay. I think Dave should   speak up and say, okay. What exactly is involved in the process of,   creating an account with E Verify, and what questions do they ask you,   and what documentation or proof do they require   to be able to show you as a national and not a citizen of The United States?   Because Well,  

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Dave, is that you?   Yeah. That's me. Hey, Dave. Second. Hey. Thanks for everything you and Kaye do down there. I don't get to mention you enough. Here's another example of their hard work.  

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Yep. You're you're welcome. It's it's   the least we could do, for the for the movement. But,   yeah, E Verify.   What was the question, Paul, you brought up? Sorry.  

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Well, it says right on the website that,   my everify enables you to view your everify case history, resolve cases, lock your Social Security number, and confirm your employment eligibility.   My E Verify does not enable you to change your citizenship   or immigration   status.  

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Yep. So the My E Verify process   I've got to   let me just turn this off real quick here. Sorry.   So the the my everify process gives you the ability when you put in the information, it asks you questions. And one of the the means to identify yourself is with your passport,   and it asked for your passport number.   So when when you do that, you just make sure you're using your established,   quote, national passport   Yes. Number.  

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So that's how you do it. That's  

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yep. And and that's how you connect your national status,   with my E Verify.   And then you'll it'll come back. It'll be a it'll come back clearly across the screen. You're eligible to   work,   or something to that effect. And you print that screen out and you include it with your documentation   to your employer.   So, you know, employers,   a lot a lot of the major employers use my E Verify to   establish your eligibility to work.   What you're doing is you're just preempting that by you're sending them, hey. I already did it. Here it is.   It probably wouldn't negate that they,   would do it anyway   as part of their process, but you'd be kind   of preempting that to some degree.  

And I that's what I did, and I didn't get any pushback whatsoever.   And my employer is, a government contractor. Right. So they're a   private company, but they work with the federal government.   So I don't work essentially, I don't work directly from the federal government, but   you would think they'd be overly sensitive to those kind of things. So but I didn't get any pushback from them.  

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Okay. So No. We we one of our listeners had had a real big time government,   contract,   I think, as a subcontractor   too, Dave.   And, they cut him off one day. He went back, and he his, credentials didn't work.   And he could not get an explanation out of them. Now I heard the other day that you can't work for the US government as a national.   I I heard it on the show. Somebody made the comment. I we didn't explore it.   But that may be true.   K? And if so, there's a really ripe discrimination   seat sitting there hanging low on the limb.  

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Yeah. I just I I don't know about that. I think it's   it's just that you'd have to pay those two taxes,   you know, the eight seventy seven b and eight seventy one b or Well, I use those two. If you're working directly for them, you gotta pay all the taxes because you're getting Oh, I gotcha. Right. Right.  

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Because it's a benefit for you, and you're taking the employment, and that obligates you to the taxes. And the precedent for that is Abraham Lincoln   because that was the first income tax during the civil war, and it was only on federal employees.  

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I wonder if that's why Trump never accepted,   a salary for being president.  

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Well, I think he was just doing it for goodwill,   but,   he he, you know, that's kind of pocket change to him, I guess.   And, I thought it was a really nice gesture.   Biden, with all the millions they've stolen, they they didn't do that.  

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Mhmm.  

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I again, this speaks highly for Trump to me. Although lately, I'm not   I'm a little tainted lately. Go ahead, Dave.  

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Yeah. You know, to your point about discrimination   about, you know, not,   allowing a national to work   for the federal federal government. In in my mind, it kinda overlaps   the the voting  

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Yes.  

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Registering because,   if you recall, when I when he and I   were put back on the   the voter rolls as nationals,   and that's that was verified by them signing off on our affidavit a little bit.   They included a statement. It was a USDA statement, but it was it was a statement about discrimination   in in my paperwork when they sent that back to me.   So they didn't directly say, hey. We're doing this because we're in fear of   lawsuit from discrimination, but it it implied that. Why else would they put that? And one of those is you can't, discriminate   due to nationality.  

So   that was kind of the leap   is they were more afraid of being sued   because of the because of discrimination,  

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more than anything else grew. It was very valid. I would hearken back. My mind is throwing me to the thought of the Wikipedia   entry, and you can go look this up if you're in the audience.   A citizenship   of The United States in Wikipedia.   Of course,   Wikipedia is just famous for, you know, garbage, but   that's where that amazingly,   that's where that site from Barnes v Bidwell shows up, Mark. I would never thought they'd have put that site in Wikipedia.   K?   So, occasionally, one of them slips through on them.  

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Same thing here. Now you're talking about Downes.  

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Yeah. Downs v Bidwell. Yeah. That's what I meant to say, but I was having a stomach Yep. Whatever.   No worry. So, over on citizenship of The United States,   if you go over there and look pretty interesting, the first couple of paragraphs   are all on fourteenth amendment stuff.   Pretty not not long paragraphs, not short paragraphs, medium paragraphs. They cover it, and then they have the fourteenth amendment   cited   there, the first clause.   And underneath that, it says nationality   status,   italicized.   Have you ever seen this, Mark? Have you have we talked about it before?  

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You may wanna look at this. About it, but I've slept since then.  

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Right at the start, italicized.   It says, I believe nationality   status, if my memory is right, or national status.   But it's italicized.   Usually, when you run on italicized   stuff on the net,   it's a it's a hotlink, isn't it?  

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Right.  

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So I mean, not always, but most of the time, it seems like. Usually  

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yeah. Yeah, usually the hot link   on on the Internet will have an underline on it. Okay. And you you can hold your cursor over it and it'll change from an arrow to   The little hand. Yeah. It's a little hand or something like that. Yeah. But usually,   if it's a hot link and I don't remember how wicked I I don't do much on Wikipedia.  

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Yeah.  

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But,   if you hold your cursor over it, it'll it'll pop up with a little window with a a brief explanation. And if you wanna go further, you can click on it and it'll take you over to their web page that further describes whatever that word is or whatever that,  

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item is that you're looking at. Okay. Well, my point was here, there's no link underneath it, which I thought was unusual. And it is italicized.   And if somebody's got it up on the screen, you can give me the exact verbiage or read us the for those relatively short paragraph there.   I believe it starts with nationality status. That is,   as we've hammered on, italicized.   And the only prohibition in there, in that paragraph,   says it well, it may have some effect on your tax status. Yeah. Might have, and it's probably pretty favorable for you.   And then it   says, but you cannot run for senator.  

So if you are contemplating running for senator in your state,   this may not be the process for you. Not of a state senator, of a US senator.  

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US. Yeah.  

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And why would that very interesting. Because the isn't it though? Because of the seventeenth amendment.   But the seventeenth amendment, like the sixteenth amendment, wasn't legally ratified.   Right. And this is the step they've used to hang their hat on.   Why did they do that?   Why did they make the senate   this, the most, what do they call it? The the the world's   most   tightest men's club or something?   And one of the reasons, I think,   is because the senate is the body that votes on treaties,   and they can run a lot of this stuff through on treaties.   And on top of that, it severs the state's influence   into the highest chamber of the house. The house is the people's party. The senate is supposed to be the state's party. It was represented by until 1917.  

The state legislatures   would place the senators in The US where the state had direct influence   on the legislative process. And the seventeenth amendment changed that, and it has had   disastrous   ramifications   like   Blumenthal,   Schumer.   You you can just go down the list. Mc McConnell, etcetera, etcetera.   So, anyway, just a little tidbit there. But to my knowledge and to wake up god bless them. The Wikipedias,   if they're accurate,   that's the only thing that, you, are unable to do as a national. So as I said, if you were, if you were just dying to run for senate,   then you might go listen to somebody else.  

Although, just knowing this information would be very beneficial for you once you got in there, if you did, which is very unlikely. Right.  

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Right.  

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So,   yikes. So we've exhausted some pretty good, topics today. Wow. Really glad you're along for the ride today, Mark.   Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Hey, Raj. Yes, sir. Who's this?  

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This is Ivana.  

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I call sometimes.   I I have a question about he's not from Austin.   I have a question,   yeah,   about the   the   the E Verify.   So a little bit little bit backstory   before I ask the question, actually.   I did I did submit my, revocation of election,   using the,   Dave Sides, the national status site. And Okay. And   I submitted it.   I mailed it, say,   with tracking on it on Monday. IRS got it on Tuesday evening,   and   and that was sent out from IRS from IRS's site on Wednesday,   basically, letting me know that my employer's   account my they're gonna notify my employer   to lock in the highest tax rate.  



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Okay. And so my account is locked in as its highest tax rate. Mark, if this is how's E Verify Hold on. How's E Verify gonna help with that? Yeah. It's I don't know if it will or not. This appears to be since we've heard two different,   examples of it, this appears to be a new strategy from IRS.   Mark, would you agree on this? Took him  

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twenty four hours too. Yeah. Mark Yeah. Mark But but but, Azana, you did this after the fact. Right? I mean,   your employer was already,   you know, withholding the the max. And when you tried to do your everify,   then   then I I'm not quite sure how the sequence went. Did you do the everify after you tried to go exempt   or before?  

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After.   So,   revocation election was back in in in November.   Right. And the so, actually, the corporation contacted me six about five, six months later to say, hey. We need to do everify on you. Right. So I went through the everification   process,   but   I don't understand how the everify ties into the IRS.  

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You  

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know? I'd have to yield to Dave on that because I'm not research.   That's something that Dave and Kaye   have added to their website. So   I really don't know that much about the everifying.   But the way I look at it, the way Dave and Kaye have it laid out on nationalstatus.com   is that it it appears like you need to do this before   you try to go exempt with your employer.  

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That would be sounds like the pro the, the the the pecking order to me too, Mark.  

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Hey. Good morning.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So   I I haven't submitted an exemption with the the employer yet.   Okay. I can, but I'm holding off.   Okay. And but now since the IRS,   sent in the lock in letter,   locking in the maximum rate they can withhold for me,   I I wasn't sure how that's gonna play out, so I'm kinda thinking it through  

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and still holding out to you. I don't think I don't think E Verify will help you at this point with the lock in. Exactly. That's what I thought. You're you're gonna have to go directly to the IRS, ask for administrative hearing process, your   administrative   appeal. And if you didn't owe taxes last year and you don't expect to owe taxes this coming   year, they need to lift that lock that lock in letter. Yeah. So  

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no. I'm I'm yeah. I don't owe  

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anything. Okay. Let me inject something. Thank you, Asana. Let me inject something here. For anybody in the audience, if this happens to you,   please let us know. This looks like a coordinated plan to try and slap back and and react in some way because, otherwise, they're neutered.   So by going in and forcing the employer to start taking taxes out again on you, they can't come and charge you with anything because you haven't done anything wrong. But this is how   these are these bastards that go over and strike and have surprise strikes on countries like Iran. This is the way they work.   Okay? And I've learned their MO over many, many years, and they just are beside themselves that they can't do anything about it. That's the beauty of what we do. So now through many commissioners already under Trump,   I know a while back earlier in the year, they had three in one week. I don't know what one they're on now, but they're changing commissioners on this absolutely monstrosity   quasi agency called IRS, and it's got its own set of problems. How many has somebody heard how many agents owe back taxes   for IRS agents? It's it's in the thousands.  

Okay? So even IRS agents even  

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congress even congressman.  

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So, anyway, I think this may be,   one of the ways they're gonna flick flick somebody. Says, well, here's what we can do.   So any of you, if this happens to you, please let us know.   Please. Email,   Mark or myself or whatever. Now here okay.   Thank you. With a little reluctance   hold on a second, Dave. Waheed, is that you?  

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Yes. Can I please change the subject for one quick second? Did Tim Walz get arrested for those two murders? Good job. That he was arrested for the murders of the I I why you need to go listen to a news station. This is an information station, Waeib. You're on the wrong station. Okay?  

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So,   we   she's so mighty.   And we don't know how to convince your mother to put a trust on her property. Okay?   What do you think we are? Dear Abby here?   Okay. Back to where we were.   Any Inquiring minds wanna know. Well, I guess.   Well,   hopefully, our inquiring minds wanna know about other things.   If any of you if this happens to you, please let us know because we like to   see what they're doing. And if the if a couple of you call in on top of what are we know, then it's a it's some sort of program coming out of IRS.   So we'll see. If that happens, let us know, please. Pretty pleased with sugar on it.  

K? Yep. Hey, Roger.   Yes.   Dave.  

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Hey. It's it's David again. I'm sorry. I can't jump on more. I'm I'm listening to my work meeting, good or bad, at the same time. But,   I just wanted   wanted to to mention the gentleman who was asking about the everify,   process.   And, you know, I think it's really important   of the steps and in what order and giving enough time in between those steps   for it to be effective. And the problem being that you don't hear anything back from anyone. Right? So you don't really know what works or what doesn't work.   You know, my employer, because they didn't question anything, it was just silence, and then they stopped withholding.  

And it was I mean, that's a good thing. But   we don't as nationals, we don't get confirmation   of of anything.   Really,   you have you have to have those presumptions that it it it worked because they do this   or they acknowledge they don't acknowledge, they don't rebut. And that's our that's our acknowledgment. Right? Yep. That's all they're gonna give us, Dave.   Yep.   And but I just I wanted to mention, I think it's important the steps and the order of the steps and   kind of leaving enough time in between this the steps for those things to kinda   mature,  

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you know. So Make it into their databases. That's the main thing.   Each one of those steps are entered into a computer database,   and there needs to be time for that to   be entered in. So when you go to the next step and the different agency   pulls up your information,   you're gonna be able to confirm it in whatever database you're connected to.   And to me, that starts with your passport.  

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That's why it's critical.   Y'all, if anybody in the audience   has not applied for your passport yet with your affidavit included, shame on you.   And the all these reasons right here. Oh, what's your passport number? Boom. Then they refer back to the state department. There, your affidavit's on file, and your status should be registered.   So it's not a direct confirmation. It's an indirect confirmation.  

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Yes.   It's, Roger, if I may too, you know, with the conversation yesterday,   Mark brought up about the form one five one zero three. I think it's as a response to   the CP 59.   And   when I was digging into the IRS stuff,   I thought, you know what? I'm just gonna preempt them, and I'm gonna send it even before I get the,   give them a chance to send the CP 59.   So I filled that out,   and I sent that in with the copy of my,   affidavit   and a copy of my w two. And this was after I sent in   my w two with the the ten forty n r.   So I was kinda offsetting trying  

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to kinda preempt them. You did a preempted strike.  

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Yep. So that's kinda the way I did it. I never did get a c p 59   saying you didn't,   file.   File.   I did file, but I thought, you know what? I'm just gonna send it. What could it hurt to send it in with an explanation   and another copy of my affidavit? So, anyway, I just wanna bring that up. I think that'd be a really good,  

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thing for everybody to do if you haven't received a CP   59 letter yet.   Get this form. What's the number of it? +1 3105?  

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Our +1 5103  

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is Yeah, man. I can be dyslexic   sometimes, so bear get me the right one.  

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Me too.  

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Anyway, just wanted to mention that. I think it's a brilliant idea, and I think it's a brilliant stroke.   So for the audience suggestion, if you have not gotten one of these, we haven't received your tax return for a year of return for what they use in 2023,   I think everybody said.   So, if you got one of those,   go do this.   Give me the I think it's 13105.   Right?  

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It's +1 5103.  

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Okay. I'm I'm in. Okay. Thank you for I actually I actually posted,  

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an example of how I filled out that   form, and it's in the IRS section   of the remedy area.   Okay. Under the FAQs, the gray bar of the FAQs,   and then it talks about this 59. And I have a link there with a copy. It shows a actual copy of how I filled mine out as well as a link to the form of white form. So What what a blessing you guys are. Thank you so much. Audience, go to Dave's website  

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and and go over it's under the remedy section and under IRS   and under FAQs, I think. Was that the right sequence?  

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Yes. If you go down to the gray bars, which are drop downs, there's a gray bar one of the gray bars, and it's FAQs.   Uh-huh. And one of the is what is the CP 59.   And then it talks about the various things you could do once you receive it.   And then that's where I   after yesterday in a conversation, Mark brought up about the that form.   I remembered I had I did that, and I hadn't posted it. So I I went ahead and k posted. I shouldn't say I did. She  

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she did it. And, but it's there for you to see for folks to see. Audience would be a real good thing. If you haven't got one of those yet to look into this and and preempt them again, that's what we do with the affidavit. We preempt them a preemptive strike and break the presumption,   and that is in essence what you're doing here too. And, also, if they're going to make this a program to try and screw with people's employers, withholding,   this is another way to preempt that. So good idea. Thank you so much, Dave, and good thinking.   Okay?  



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Thanks.   Roger, I'd like to go over that form real quick. It's very brief. Okay. Please do, Mark.   It's called a form   one five one zero three, f o r m, form   one five one zero three. You can go to   any browser search engine   and type that in and you can find the PDF version of that or you can go to nationalstatus.com.   Dave's got that over there as well.   But, it's it's a form ten forty return delinquency.   So your respond the IRS thinks that you're delinquent in filing a return   and they wanna know why. And they issue a CP 59.   If you don't respond to that, it goes to   CP five eighteen. If you don't respond to that, it'll go to CP five sixteen   where they'll start doing a substitute for return on you and start the collection process based on whatever they think you owe.  

Okay? So I like this form. If you wanna submit something that has the same information but in your own on your own letterhead or paperwork, you can do that as well.   But it's got the required information at the top, Social Security number, taxpayer name,   address, so forth.   And then as you scroll down through the options,   the one the one that we look at is   explain why you don't think you're required to file a tax return.   Okay? Now the first couple options is one, I already filed   my tax and then closing a signed and dated copy of the return.   I already filed a Form ten forty one income tax return for estates   and trusts   instead of a ten forty.  

And then below that, your third option is   if you don't think you have to file a tax return for blank tax year,   explain why you don't think you're required to file that tax return for the year.   And none of the answers to these questions apply to the,   it says tax year only.   I'm sorry. These answers to these questions apply to this tax year only. So you you can't do multiple years. So if you've got separate CP59s   for different years,   you can only respond to one tax year at a time using this form.   So it has my filing status was head of household,   so on and so forth   And then the following apply to me.  

And one of the boxes is I am not a US citizen or permanent resident. You   select that box.   And then below, my total income.   Unless you had income from a US source, that's talking about $8.71   and $8.77,   if if you under under those,   subsections,   you didn't have any income from a US source. That's zero. Your income was zero.   And then below that, it says the reason for not filing. And here's what I suggest.   If you put something along this line, As a non resident alien,   I did not have any income from a US source under   26   CFR   1.1-1a.  

And then you sign it, date it, and mail it back to them. It's just that simple.   Just super simple. Don't even take you five minutes to fill that out   and, print it out and send it to them.  

[01:45:01] Unknown:

And there's nothing   they can do about it?  

[01:45:05] Unknown:

No.   No.  

[01:45:09] Unknown:

Beardsley Rummel?   Mentioned that before, Mark. Are you familiar with that name, Beardsley   Rummel?  

[01:45:15] Unknown:

Yeah. I do, but I don't remember what their   was that the one the guy that, talked about the withholdings to begin with? He's the one that initiated  

[01:45:24] Unknown:

withholdings back in the forties. Beardsley   Rummel.  

[01:45:30] Unknown:

Beards. Yeah. The the problem they had is people were getting the total tax bill at the end of the year, and they're saying, oh my gosh. I owe how much taxes? You know, it really raised people's,   ruffle people's feathers.   But when they do the withholding   upfront,   once they've adjusted to whatever their paycheck is,   now people's whole attitude is like, oh, well, you know, I'm just   instead of me having to pay a lump sum at the end of the year I'm just prepaying it and if I get a refund I know a lot of people   they claim them the they do zero   dependence so they get the max refund that they can get at the end of the year and they use it as their savings to go on a vacation   or to buy a car.  



[01:46:19] Unknown:

Yes. Well that's making chicken soup out of chicken whatever isn't it? Yeah  

[01:46:24] Unknown:

Yeah. So a a lot of the used car dealers know this and they get loaded up with their, you know, most expensive cars that they can   and right around, you know, starting February 1,   they start advertising about well hey just send us your tax return and you know or use your tax return to buy another car and yada yada so   it's like a whole industry thing   about knowing people are gonna get tax returns.  

[01:46:52] Unknown:

Beardsley. Well, do you know and probably the audience might not. I don't know that we discuss a lot of this, very often.   The original,   income tax ten forty was sent out during World War two, and they asked you to pay a victory   tax.   It was voluntary.   Okay?   And so here, what they're finding out, and Beardsley goes, well, what's the real critical element? They want you to file a ten forty.   Then you're volunteering to pay it. Okay? And they get property rights on you on top of the ones they already got. K?   And so,   what Beardsley   did is the people that slacked off from filing.  

You know, it was like every year, they just send it in the mail. You know? Like, okay. Well, I guess I'm gonna pay this. And,   Beardsley set up the start where just like Mark said, that's part of it. But also, then they have to file at the end of the year to get it back.   And filing is the deal. K? Now the rest of the sequence, the way I   understand it and put it together over all the years, this was   Beardsley's   deal was about   the the,   year I was born, '48, I think.   And,   '51   in an internal order, treasury called a treasury order, a t o. Have you ever heard of those, Mark?   Yes. Well, a t o and I think it's '51   is where they specifically   designated the IRS   internally. They didn't do it externally. Congress didn't do it. This is internal.  

So they separated, like, IRS and BATF   and those kind of things. Then we go a couple years from 51   to 54.   There's where they overturned Plessy with Brown.   And then in sixty days, they put the nineteen fifty four internal revenue code in place.   And we've been worshiping mammon,   well, before too, but ever since for sure.   Anyway, just to the timetable I've got timeline I've got in my mind   on this Right. Placed nearby many years of study.  

[01:49:02] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, Roger, before we, you know, we're getting to the end of the show Are we?   I'd just like a little opportunity   to,   address some some   issues that that I've been having   and and my level of support that I've tried to provide in the past.   And I'm just not quite able to keep up with that. And and reason being   is,   one, I'm supporting the trust   classes that I teach,   which can be pretty time demanding as I'm building a   a structured,   training program,   where it'll be a little bit more automated. So right now, it's a lot of hand holding   that I'm doing. But,   you know, I   take care of my elderly parents.  

And my mom is getting more frail where she   it's just a struggle for her to cook.   Wow. Right? And so   their   needs for me to help them  

[01:50:05] Unknown:

is is demanding all the time.  

[01:50:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. So, like, anytime my dad needs to move from one place to another, I've got to assist with that.   So it's it's rough because I'm constantly being distracted from whatever I'm working on or concentrating on or whatever.   And so, you know, for the people that are wanting assistance from me, you know, I just can't do that anymore.   If they got a brief question,   you know, I'll try to answer that. I'll try to point you in the right direction,   but I just really can't do your paperwork   and and be able to keep up with that.   So I just hope everybody understands that. So do you understand. But I'll be happy to point you in the right direction. And We got some we got some back stops?  



[01:50:53] Unknown:

Well,   I tell you the best back stop in the world is is nationalstatus.com.  

[01:50:59] Unknown:

Okay. I mean, I I haven't seen anything out there. I shouldn't say anything.   But when it comes to   to the IRS process and the national status,   I believe Dave and Kaye have really got it covered.   And they're constantly updating as new information becomes available, as people are giving feedback on your show, Roger.   You know, they're they're adding that to their resources like the form 15,103.   So, you know,   I don't mind if you wanna email the [email protected].   I'll give you a brief response, but it may not be today,   may not be tomorrow.  

It might be a couple of days before I can even get around to it. So   I'm just letting you know up front that I, you know, I can't do the tax service anymore.   You know, it's just I can't keep up with that.   May I? Hope hope everybody would just forgive me for that, and I just,   it's hard for me to say no because I I I enjoy our crowd, our group, and I wanna help everybody that needs help, but I just can't do it.   Not anymore.  

[01:52:12] Unknown:

Well, Dave and Kaye, we gotta go get you second. Yes. Just a second. Dave and Kaye deserve, and and all the people that supply extra on the outside resources deserve a lot of applause. But Dave and Kay's is particularly sophisticated,   I think. And also the fact that you're plugged into AI and you've got some of these things where   they'll help you generate their documents or anything you need, and then it's good that we're going to steer   of more more folks over there for the work that Dave and Kaye have spent, the time and effort they've sent to set it up. Yes, Julie. What you got, sweet thing?  

[01:52:47] Unknown:

I'll I'll tell everybody what Mark's backstop is. It's to join his PMA classes because   you can just   network with people on his classes and network online. And a lot of that stuff,   indirectly gets answered on there anyway. So, you know, I'm one of his biggest proponents and I will get paid for this. But,   it's just a fabulous,   fabulous group of people and a fabulous class and fabulous information that you're not gonna get from any other attorney. And if you do, you're gonna be paying tens of thousands of dollars for the information   that Mark provides in I yield.  



[01:53:23] Unknown:

We've developed something,   almost unconsciously   here in   the following the path here of the truth. And,   we've developed this fantastic   brain trust   that's live and interactive for anybody in the world,   really, but, where you can ask questions and get educated, insightful answers from people that   know what they're talking about. And they're not gonna lie to you. They're not gonna try and sell you anything.   We just want you to be free. And the freer you are, the stronger all of us are. And that that's this, you know, what John Benson used to say on the stage. The only way I can protect my freedom   is to help you protect yours.  

And that's what this is all about right there. Yes.  

[01:54:07] Unknown:

Hey, Rod.   Yes, sir. This is Ezana. And I I want a second, Julie.   Mark is just a you're an amazing man. Thank you very much for all you do. K. You're you're just a,   self sacrificing a lot to help us out. Yeah. A lot of things you do with the support for the tax issue is very difficult topic for a lot of us to to to to cross, and   and you you continue   to help us out selflessly. And, you know, I just want you to note that I appreciate you very much. And Thank you. And, and yeah. And, also, Dave, Dave and Kaye, Dave, your website is just amazing. I use it. I love to read it.   I use it as a re as a resource, and,   I I wanna thank you on that as well.  

Just,   I've directed, I don't know, you know, 12 to 15 people to that site.   That's they're overwhelmed   normally.   I like to troll people,   on on chat site and some, you know,   social media site, and I just dropped that link.   You know? And I, again, I appreciate you very much. Thank you.  

[01:55:15] Unknown:

Thank   you.   In the midst of all these accolades,   nationalstatus.info   or nationalstatus.com.   I believe either one of those will get you to the site. Isn't that correct, Dave?   Or Mark or whatever?   Yes. That's correct. Okay. Good deal.   Wow. Well, you know, it makes me very proud.   All I know to do years ago was to try and expose this information.   And, realistically,   my goal to get it into the public domain,   which was a pretty damn difficult goal to achieve.   It took me many years to do it. And finally,   we were able to do that. And then once you achieve a big goal, you reset your goal. And so, basically, I just had to say, well, we'll just take it whatever direction as far as we can take it.   And we've come a good way since then and look at the wonderful people   that we've attracted here and,   and and the wonderful things that we've been able to accomplish.  

So, it but it's a group effort,   k, is the truth. The the the message   brought all that together.   I may have a part in delivering it with some of the skills I've developed that he's helped me develop over a lifetime, but it's the information I want you to concentrate on.   It's so important. Right. It's so important. You're the godfather   of the nation states. Well, no. John and Glenn were the godfather.   John Benson,   because I I would have never found this stuff. I would have never known about 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a. Look. Just like everybody else, I'd looked right over it if I even looked.   And and all these things, this foundation was laid by John Benson and his literal lifetime of study in the law and the sacrifices   that he went through. Here's a man with all this genius and all this   this wonderful information   who died   literally penniless on Social Security,   estranged from his family for many years,   and then,   expelled from his church, the Mormon church, but as a convicted felon. And he sacrificed all that for us, and and and that's why I always give him credit. He's the reason we're here, people.  

I added a very important piece.   I I understand what I did. I understand my accomplishment. I have a great deal of pride in it, but this is the guy that laid the foundation.   K?   I I could take credit for a lot of that, but if I did, I'd never be able to sleep with myself. K?   So, anyway,   credit where credit's due, he's the he's Methuselah.   Okay?   And,   of course, we wish we had him with us still, but he lives on through us   and through the proliferation   of this information and understanding.   And that's how you give him credit.  

[01:58:21] Unknown:

I Roger, on on,   on Benson's work, first name was John. Right? John Benson? John w Benson.  

[01:58:31] Unknown:

Not related to the Bowman founder. And then when he was alive, Mark, there was three Bensons in the Patriot community. Guy in Arizona named Wayne Benson,   not spelled the same way as John Benson, and then Bill Benson in the sixteenth amendment.  

[01:58:47] Unknown:

Yeah. I met Bill Benson. I I have two. I've had dinner with him. Yep. Him, DV Kidd, and,   Beecraft.   Yes.   And Dan and a couple others.  

[01:58:59] Unknown:

Beecraft's a charming guy. I mean, he's just a really likable guy. You know?  

[01:59:05] Unknown:

But, you know, we just didn't know what we didn't know back then. Nope. And I'm telling   you, your information   is life changing. People will   bother to study a little bit, wrap their minds around it, get let go of the old patriot tech,   mythology.   Kind of push that to the side and and look at that. I mean, one of one of your local listeners here have become pretty good friends.   First time I met him,   we're at a coffee shop.   We spent three hours of me debunking David Strait's   stuff. Uh-huh. And I walked out with with   pretty much a a a mild headache.  

Yeah. I know the feeling. Three hours later of of having to,   you know,   dispel and debunk   what David Strait had been teaching, you know. And I have to admit,   this listener has really come around   and,   him and his wife have,   you know, are grasping the information   and   and utilizing it to their benefit.  

[02:00:14] Unknown:

Can you see him growing? It's  

[02:00:17] Unknown:

oh, absolutely.   It's it's   one once they kinda ditch David Strait's stuff,   and I'm not saying all of his stuff was bad. Well, everybody's got part of the story. Of it.   Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, and and it's kinda like my story. You know? I I walked away from all that junk and, hey. Guess what? I used to parrot the same stuff that everybody parrots.   One of my mentors, he his joke was, I'm not a taxpayer, and his explanation was,   I may swat flies, but I'm not a fly swatter.   I may pay taxes,   but I'm not a taxpayer.  

[02:00:54] Unknown:

That that that's pretty good.  

[02:00:57] Unknown:

So, you know, the taxpayer thing, that was   people trying to say, well, I'm not a taxpayer.   Well, you know, that's that's not gonna get you anywhere.   Your status is what gets you somewhere.  

[02:01:11] Unknown:

You know? Yeah. Everybody's a taxpayer.   Even us. Yes. If we have those two types of taxes, taxes, we pay them. Everybody's a taxpayer.   We just don't pay some taxes.   But let me ask you, Paul, I haven't heard any music. Are we off the air?   Is Paul laying in there in his bed on the levitating on his magnets or what? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're, yeah, we're off the air. I I killed the,  

[02:01:38] Unknown:

I killed the whistler for the, sake of the,   top of the hour that we didn't have to interrupt for. And this didn't turn it on.   Wait a minute. So we've been on the air for about   fifty seconds.  

[02:01:51] Unknown:

Okay. We we've we've covered some different topics and areas and all that's important and all that's been very relevant. And,   I I hope you're glad you spent the time with us today out of your busy schedule.   We're glad you did. And, always always good to have and I can't give Mark or Paul enough credit for the the contributions   that both of you make around here.   And, we we probably couldn't be where we are if it weren't for certainly Paul's technical ability.   Mark has just taken a load off me and is a wonderful   source to bounce things off of and get his opinion on because I respect him. And I know he's got good solid background.  

And, we   even though we may not seem to be making progress, it's very slow, it seems, but we are. And,   everyone   that talks to anybody that gets a new person, when that happens, we're stronger. Okay?   So,   thank all of you. It's Tuesday today, so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna watch the end of this baseball game that was,   interrupted by rain, and we are beating UCLA pretty handily.   So that's good. And, I will, then go to lunch   with the the expats, and then, I'll see y'all tomorrow.   So thank you, everybody, and appreciate you coming by today, particularly, Mark.  

[02:03:17] Unknown:

Well, thank you, Roger. It's always a joy to be here, and, you know, and I apologize to everybody for,   you know, the delay and not being able to help. And and so just I have a lot of my play. You you've got you're doing the higher and and more  

[02:03:33] Unknown:

beneficial duty in helping take care of your parents now.   Didn't you tell me that there might be a home down the road that they could stay at eventually? Or you or, you know, because I know how demanding what you're doing is. Okay? Right. What we're what we're trying to get is,  

[02:03:49] Unknown:

get them signed up for   a long term care at in home.   So I need that relief because I can't do what I need to do fully.   Yep. And so,   it's just kind of a step by step process that we're having to go through.  

[02:04:07] Unknown:

Boy, and it's demanding and it's a necessity, and God bless you for doing it. K?   Because a lot of people would just slam them in a home. Alright?  

[02:04:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Exactly. And and if you if you haven't been in those shoes, you know, it's,   you know, everybody likes to go, well, you're a saint. Well, I don't feel like a saint, you know. But No. But it's it's,   it's just something that you do for your parents, and we have our moments like any other family does. Nobody pushes your buttons better than family. Yep. You know? They they know how to get to you real quick. Yeah. So,   but but, yeah, I can only do so much.   And, you know, we're gonna have to look for you know, work towards   quickly,  

[02:04:53] Unknown:

in home care. So just I can't take care of both of them on my own. Well, I bet you. And and do everything you do on the side. Well, you're god bless you. You just what all of us should do, you know, if we could.   I understand if you can't sometimes, but if you can and situation is,   is attendable, you would be very blessed to do that for your folks.   So,   Roger. Appreciate it. Yes, Larry.  

[02:05:21] Unknown:

I was just gonna ask, Mark,   did you retire from your paralegal practice   some time ago, and how many years did you do that? Like, are you totally   independent now and you just help students and do the trust thing?  

[02:05:34] Unknown:

Well, for almost twenty five years, I I full time become a paralegal in 02/2001,   and my first job was working with Dan Medder in Ponca City.   And so we did tax triage. We were stopping the IRS going after people.   And Dan had been down that road himself. Brilliant mind. I just   a   researcher like you would not believe. And this is really at the very beginning of having,   you know, full blown Internet.   You know, to the what we have today is so far ahead of its time.   Back in 02/2001,   we just didn't have the the browser,   features like we have today. Now we've got AI, which is pretty amazing. Matter of fact, on our trust classes,   people ask a question   and it's like, well, you know what? Let's just go look it up.  

And we'll pull up, I have a subscription to Grok.   And it's just   you got you can't take everything literally if you don't know. But if you have an idea, you have a little experience in that area,   you can tell whether whether you're getting,   correct information back or not. And if you're using it for law and you and it gives you a statute or a code, you need to go look that up and and verify it for yourself.   But Dan Meader, oh my gosh, in the evening,   he would sit around, we'd watch a little TV, and while we're watching TV, he's reading the IRS code.   He'd pick a physical book. He would read through it, and every every once in a while, he grabbed his highlighter and goes,   ah, this relates back to this.  

And he's talking about the The US code.   So he was constantly looking for this connection   between,   you know, how can the IRS code be law. No, it's not. It's regulations.   Yep. You know, but it's got to stay within the framework supposedly   within the framework   of the United States Code   and the Constitution.   So he was just a prolific researcher   and   his   his ability to,   retain and comprehend that information just blows my mind. Yeah. He had a he he had a two degrees from Oklahoma State   where I believe he had a wrestling scholarship.   And,   Dan   Dan was pretty funny. He laughed because when   when he got married, he was in college,   and,   he gave his measurements for his his suit to his soon to be wife.  

And when she went to the   the men's clothing store, the salesman looked at that his measurements. He goes, are you married to a gorilla?   Because the way his torso was and everything, you know,   he had kinda like,   I'd say shorter legs, a little bit longer torso.   But he was he was pretty amazing. I mean, he was in his, what, late fifties.   And his, grandkids would come over and   they were getting to be teenagers and, you know, they were they were feeling their their oats, and he'd take them down in a wrestling move.   And and they would just they'd shake their head. You know? It was like, how do you do that? So   but, anyway, Dan was just a great guy, and   I'm sorry that we lost him early.  

And him and Pat Patton   both fell The They fell the same day. Died Dan died that day,   and Pat Patton,   who wrote the book, the IRS, liars, thieves, thugs, Cowards, and Hypocrites.   Don't you love that title? Yeah.   They pulled the plug on him. He had a brain aneurysm, and   I think it was two, three days after that, they pulled the plug and he passed away.  

[02:09:38] Unknown:

Yep. A lot of people have sacrificed their lives for this,   to try and find what we've got quite honestly.  

[02:09:45] Unknown:

Yes. Absolutely.   So but I would just wanna tell everybody, I've been down this road. I paired it and and   and when I say paired it, I mean, I took what somebody gave me, told me information that who somebody who I trusted   and I turned around and say the same thing. I said the same thing about the gold French flag. I used to say the same thing about Admiralty Law.   I used to say the same thing about these,   elevation marks around the city, usually near the Federal Reserve Bank. I I said, oh, that's a watermark because that's what I was told.   Oh, we are under Amelstree Law. Look. There's a watermark in yes.  

So so I'm I'm saying all of that to say this.   You need to give that up.   Yes. It's just it's patriot baloney,   and I'm sorry   if you got caught up in that. I did.   Yeah. And I walked away from this until Chuck Ward told me about Roger, and I said, oh, no. Another patriot.   You know? And then I just   the providence of God. He just be  

[02:10:52] Unknown:

he he Chuck had been telling him about me for years.  

[02:10:55] Unknown:

Yeah. About two, maybe three years he'd been telling me.   And, you know, I've been on I've been on,   co hosted with Ralph Winter Road on RBN, Republic Broadcasting Network.   And Ralph was so locked in in what he was doing. I was trying to help him try to fund himself and and get some regular income coming in because   he he was just living in a shack doing his research.   And when he passed away, a year went by   approximately, and I was thinking about, you know, Ralph being gone. And I thought, I wonder who took his spot.   And I tune in to to on a Sunday evening at 05:00 central time,   I tune in   and there's Roger   on RBN.  

So if nothing more, your time on RBN   had to be at least to get connected with me. Yeah. So I'm probably a little on down the road, never knowing you existed.  

[02:11:51] Unknown:

Yeah. A year, year and a half or something. Look what we all would have missed and,   just grateful that that happened under what providence. And,   it's been a nice Can I chime in a sec? It's been a yes, ma'am. You may just say it's been a really nice,   I think, from both Mark and I side, a nice relationship so far, and we both love working with folks like this young lady here. Yes, ma'am?  

[02:12:15] Unknown:

This is Lisa.   Some of that life, like Mark saying, you know, he was sucked into that and the admiralty and some of those things. I swear some of the terms they use,  

[02:12:25] Unknown:

they use them to get us sucked into that avenue. That's not true. They want no. They want you going down the wrong path.  

[02:12:32] Unknown:

Right.   So, again, it's a full opposition.  

[02:12:36] Unknown:

Because then you can keep talking about it and find out your friends that the issue resonates with. And then when they come get you, they get all of you.  

[02:12:45] Unknown:

Yeah.   Roger?  

[02:12:48] Unknown:

Yes, Solarian. I'm gonna go in just a short short here.  

[02:12:52] Unknown:

I need to get to Did, Glenn and John know Dan Meador, and does Dan Meador have any,   seminars on YouTube?  

[02:13:00] Unknown:

I I don't I don't think they knew him. Probably knew of him. I knew of his y'all's work, Mark, and gone around the the community, if you will.   And,   but I never met Dan and his wife.   I know the the guy that I know was a guy named Jim Prentice. He was a friend of Jim Rams too. They were both retired cops. Jim Prentice was a retired homicide   detective down in Naples,   Larry, who'd, done twenty years. And when he was doing detective work, he realized there was two sets of law books in the law library.   And so when I said that, he it really my stuff resonated with him. He's the one that wrote me and said, two weeks after the book was released, he said, I've read your book 10 times   and gotten something out of it every different every time.  

Okay? That was in two weeks.   And,   he said, we had everything you've got except for the affidavit.   They didn't know about that, and they didn't know why. And it worked, and they didn't know where to send it. And that's the feudal system that puts that piece of the puzzle in there for you.  

[02:14:08] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know of anywhere that Dan Meader had put anything on YouTube   or anybody else. I mean, you could go search in quotation marks Dan Meader   and see if anything pops up.   But, if you go to Family Guardian,   they have a page out there that had all of Dan's writings that he made public.   Oh, Sam Guardian?   Yes. Yes. Family Guardian, Vanguard.   Was it vanguard? Dotorg. I think, or .org. Dotorg, I think. Is it metter?   I'll say that again. No. Meter is m as in Mary, e as in echo, echo, a as in apple, d as in David, o as in Oscar, r as in Roger.   Meador.  



[02:14:54] Unknown:

Hey, Mark.  

[02:14:55] Unknown:

So so, anyway, his   he he was a great writer. He had two degrees in in English,   two majors in in different styles of English.   And him and his wife wrote a,   monthly newsletter for the Weed Association   in Oklahoma.   And so they really knew how to get down to the nitty gritty and convey information   with the least amount of words.   Wonderful. I learned a lot from them. Right.  

[02:15:24] Unknown:

Yeah. His stuff circulated widely through the community,   and he was very well respected.   Yep. Hey, Mark. Yes.   Yeah, Mark. This is Bob.   Yeah, Bob. Having some association with Ralph in the past, I'm curious if you know his history. I had read something about him before he died. This was years ago. Mhmm. And it alluded to him being born and growing up in Kansas. And, of course, I'm from Kansas, and it just struck me that I'd but I never was able to follow-up on that. Do you know where he grew up? I don't know if he he grew up in Kansas or not.  

[02:15:58] Unknown:

I know that when the, you know, at the very early stages of this,   telecommunications   with cell phones and so forth,   He had jumped on that and then moved to Alaska   and and was very big and, you know, had done made a lot of money, had a big business in Alaska.   And, you know, that's where he that's where he wound up as   an entrepreneur   and businessman.   And then he got entangled with the IRS. So, you know, he had an engineering background   and,   got tangled up with the IRS. And I tell you,   some of these guys   that are along that line, they're logical thinkers like engineers.   They get tied up with the IRS and they're like, I'm gonna figure you out. And it's like the worst thing they could do,  

[02:16:46] Unknown:

IRS is to cross paths with these guys because they're just Well, that's what I did with them. The other guy. That was my ad. The other guy right there. You just hit it right on the head. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt.  

[02:16:57] Unknown:

Yeah. That's okay. Richard Cornforth, when he got hit up in court, he says, I'm going to crawl into the belly of the beast and I'm going to eat my way out and I'm going to figure out how to, you know, kill you guys. And he's pretty well hated by the by the,   by the attorneys and district attorneys and so forth because,   you know, he understands jurisdiction   and whether a court has jurisdiction over him or not.   And one of the early cases was a lady named Dorothy   who got a default judgment on a credit card debt   and they went back and put a motion to vacate it because they the plaintiff never put in an affidavit from a competent back witness so the court didn't have jurisdiction to be entering judgment against her   and they threw that judgment out. That was one of Richard's early   students who was a fellow researcher   And from that time on, her Indian name became,   she who walks on attorneys.  



[02:18:02] Unknown:

And like most victories in the patriot movement, it's on some technicality like that. Something they didn't do, they had to, or they did wrong   or didn't do it at all. Yeah. Right. Like like the Richard's materials are are pretty amazing.  

[02:18:19] Unknown:

But his, you know,   his claim to fame is   the lack of subject matter jurisdiction.   And and the the plaintiff who brings a lawsuit   has to have   a witness   who is a competent fact witness   with firsthand knowledge of the events leading up to the lawsuit   and very rarely does that happen. Yeah.   Cool. But people don't know to challenge that. So it's very effective.  

[02:18:49] Unknown:

Folks, a lot of folks have been looking for what we got for a lot of years, all the way back to the seventies and the sixties when this kind of started. Yep. After the income tax really kicked in after '54 when they had it in place.   So, I if you're brand new, you may not appreciate all all of these stories from these men who did right or wrong such as such intense sacrifice   to try and find the answer we got for you free right here.  

[02:19:16] Unknown:

K? Question.  

[02:19:17] Unknown:

I hope you appreciate it. Yep.   Somebody said questions. Hello. Liars Chris from Thieves.  

[02:19:28] Unknown:

I'm sorry. Go ahead, Chris. Bugs.  

[02:19:31] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:19:33] Unknown:

I just heard this, little bit about Richard Cornforth   and his, doing a motion to vacate   Yeah. And his ability to challenge jurisdiction   on certain principles.   I would like to learn more about that. Does he have a book that explains that, or is there some source of that? I think he I think he can go to richard cornforth dot com. He's right here in in Oklahoma City. Is he still alive, Mark?  

[02:19:58] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. He is. Cool. Cool.   I've been trying to get a hold of him, but I think   I don't think he has my phone number, my current phone number. So I don't know if he realizes it's me calling you. So I think I'm just gonna have to drive over and knock on his door. Right. So but he's he's on the other side of Oklahoma City from me. Oh, cool. But I think you can go to Richard Cornforth. That's C 0 R N   Fourth, F 0 R T H.   I got it. I'm going to it right now. Richardcornforth.com.   See if it pops up.   But I know some people had stolen his work and and, you know,   people were selling his materials, and he wasn't making a dime off of it. Right. So Well, one of my law, teachers,  

[02:20:47] Unknown:

a guy named Gary Bryant, used to mention his name because his name is very unusual, and,   it sticks with you. You know? So I know exactly where I heard it.  

[02:20:56] Unknown:

Well, anyway is very,   it's it's not hard to understand. And, you know, one of the things I learned in my intro to law class was,   and well, actually more of my, my research and writing, legal research and writing,   both of those,   professors who were both practicing attorneys,   intro to law was Martin Duberstein   or Duberstein,   funny guy.   But they're like, you know, this is supposed to be law is supposed to be written in   layman terms where   regular English, you should be able to read it and understand it. And I find that to be fairly true, except when you get into banking laws, it's written upside down and backwards so you won't understand   it, without somebody teaching you. But other than that, it's pretty straightforward. But I think people just get scared because they think it's law and they don't think they can read it and possibly understand it. That's why we got attorneys.  

But, no, if, you know, if you'll take your time to read it line by line, paragraph by paragraph,   you should be able to understand it.  

[02:22:04] Unknown:

Yeah. But now you not not know the correct definition   behind the word, but you should be able to understand it in some context.   One of another one of their little tricks.   Whoo. Are these boys slick? Folks, it's Tuesday. Mark, love you. Everybody else too. And, I got a jet, and I'll see you tomorrow.  

[02:22:23] Unknown:

See you Saturday, mate. Love you too, Rucker. Alright, man. Hope everybody has a great day. We'll talk to you next time. Alright. Bye bye, y'all. Thank you, Mark. Thanks.  

[02:22:31] Unknown:

Mark, you still there?   Hang on. Yeah.   Pat, patent liars, thieves, thugs, and hypocrites.  

[02:22:40] Unknown:

Is that No. It's liars, thieves, thugs, cowards,   and hypocrites?   Okay, well, it's e a it's e   as in Edward,   a as in alpha,   Patton.  

[02:22:56] Unknown:

E a Patton.   Yep. Okay. Well, I'm doing a search At one time, it was available on Amazon.   I'm searching everywhere.   Google can't even come up with,   with any hits on Patton, Liar, Steve's, and Hypocrites.  

[02:23:13] Unknown:

Wow.  

[02:23:14] Unknown:

Google can't even come up with it.  

[02:23:17] Unknown:

Well, the way he spelled it was IRS   colon   liars.   I'm typing it in right now.   Liars.   Honestly, liars, thieves.   No. No. Liars.   Gosh.   I think it was liars,   thieves,   thugs,   cowards,   and hypocrites.  

[02:23:53] Unknown:

And it's e period a period?  

[02:24:00] Unknown:

Yes. It is. I went to Amazon and I typed in. I've done it. What I read off.   I'm good. It says it says it's not available,   but and they have it listed on   Amazon as Pat Patton as the author.   But I believe in, initially, he had it listed as e period a period Pat, so they may have changed that. Because I have more people knowing by Pat Patton   than his first two initials.  

[02:24:29] Unknown:

Yeah. I searched for Pat Patton,   and I couldn't find anything.  

[02:24:37] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I'll figure out a way to get you the link if you wanna look at it. But Oh, absolutely. I mean, I have that book. I've got the we've got the digital version I helped. I forgot what Pat asked me to help with.   But, anyway, I I I helped him with,   I think promoting his book.   And,   anyway, yeah, Pat Pat Patton, it's published by EA Patton upon the city.   And he wrote that in '89.   That was his publication date. And I met him in November   at Dan Meader's meeting.   So, yeah, he was a printer by the way. So he he printed his own books.   But I'm gonna tell you right now the secret to that whole book. And he goes as he goes, I'm kinda ashamed to sell this. He goes,   his thing was   the IRS never properly   assesses you the tax that you owe.  

And he was right about that, but the IRS dances around that whole issue. They don't wanna,   you know, they they've   they've figured out a way to kinda dance around that, especially if you're in court.   But I went and looked up, with the tax commission   what makes a lawful,   legitimate   assessment,   And there's quite a bit to it. They just can't say, well, we assessed you. Well, where is my assessment?   You know? Where where is the explanation   of the source of income?   And how is it taxed?   You know, how how am I responsible for a tax on that income?   And as Pat Pat pointed out, you know,   the the and we talked about this on on the Rogers Show at the Radio Ranch.  

The IRS   will give you a occupation   that they can tax. Like, if you they'll they've had people go get their individual master file when they had it decoded.   They'd have them listed as a   pharmaceutical   manufacturer   or they'd have them listed as,   an oil,   oil company like an oil drilling company   or, you know, they had these certain   categories of taxation   that you had to be in before they could demand a tax from you.   And so that's what what Pat was   alluding to in that book.   And I don't know because he he sold a separate booklet that went with that.   I well, actually, he didn't sell it. It was part of it, but it had all the court cases, and he was concerned that   those court cases might be considered copyrighted   material because they were all, you know, via Westlaw.  

So   anyway,   it's an interesting book. I don't know that you really need it nowadays because,   Roger's material   comes before the even this assessment part. So that's why I say if we'd had Roger's material back in   02/2001,   it'd be a huge game changer to us because,   Dan, if you read some of his documents   on the Family Guardian website,   he had a one of the memorandums   of law that he had written,   he alludes to being a national. This seems to be the key to separate ourselves from the the federal tax system.   But we had no clue   how to establish that or who to send our affidavits to.  

So Roger's material just completes that loop.   And, it's so liberating because it it it just   why have to learn the IRS code and all this other junk   if right up front in the very first paragraph, you can say, this doesn't apply to me?   Game over.   I don't have to worry about assessments. I don't have to worry about deductions.   I don't have to worry about,   any of that stuff. I was just trying to think the what they call it when you,   have   an asset and you depreciate it. So, you know, I don't have to worry about depreciating assets or anything.   This simplifies life. If you do it right,   you, may not even have to file a tax return, especially if you're,   if you're getting receiving ten ninety nines,   this is a big, huge game changer.  

Absolutely.   So   does that help, Paul? Well,  

[02:29:18] Unknown:

I'm just looking, and it it's like that book isn't available anywhere.  

[02:29:23] Unknown:

Well, I'll see what I can do.   I'll see what I can do   if you if you want a copy.  

[02:29:33] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. I definitely do. Okay.  

[02:29:36] Unknown:

Yeah. But I'm just gonna tell you right now, you're   it's   it's just based on the assessment,   and they never the IRS never properly assesses you.   So they'll demand a tax, but they never assess it.   So   that's the crux of his book. And Rogers   cuts it off before it ever gets to,   quote, an assessment.   So anyway   alright. I really gotta go.   I,   I didn't plan on staying on this long, but, hope everybody enjoys the rest of the day. We'll talk to you next time. Thank you, Mark. Thanks for all you do, Mark. Thanks. Thank you. My pleasure. Appreciate all the things that everybody does here. It's a it's a great group, and I'm I'm happy to be part of it. So   alright. Take care. Bye bye.  



[02:30:28] Unknown:

Bye bye.   Wow.   That is that is really something.   You know, it's not very often you run into a book that is   completely   scrubbed.   Completely.   I mean,   just about every finger or every every possible place for it   is just gone.   Wow.  

[02:31:01] Unknown:

I used to know someone,   by the name of John Joseph who had his own printing press,   and he would find look for and find copies of these kinds of books and reprint them. I don't know where he is today.   But if,   if Mark has a copy,   we could reprint it. I have access to,   to printing presses. A friend of mine is a printer,   and, he's always trying to sell me a printing press. I think I should buy one.   And,   but, of course, it's it digitally   digitally, reproduce things now   and get it out   in mass.  

[02:31:43] Unknown:

Okay. I did find it.   I found it on Amazon. It's currently unavailable,   but it doesn't have doesn't appear to have a publication   number   because that would be easier to find it.   Wow.   Crazy.  

[02:32:15] Unknown:

What?  

[02:32:17] Unknown:

IRS, liars, thieves, thugs, cowards, and hypocrites.   Wow.   It is not even available on any of the, the online PDF sites.  

[02:32:39] Unknown:

Hey, Paul. Yeah.   There was somebody   on the show a while back who,   was able to find a website   that actually had,   The High Priest of Treason by   Melvin Stamper. That book's out of print. You could go to archive.org.   And,   you could you could only borrow it there. You couldn't,   print it or download it. But there was another website that somebody mentioned where you could where you actually could get that book. I wonder I can't remember that website. Does anybody Anna's  

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excuse me. It's Anna's,   annas,   -archive.org.  

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Annas-archive.org.   Does he see if he can see it on there,   Paul?  

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I'm I'm checking right now.   I know it's not on the line. I put it  

[02:34:00] Unknown:

I put it in there, and I'm not notified.  

[02:34:03] Unknown:

Is this Lisa?  

[02:34:05] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:34:06] Unknown:

Oh, thank you, Lisa, so much. Thank you very much.  

[02:34:30] Unknown:

Anna's archive, a n n a s a r c h I v e,   goes to a park   site.  

[02:34:42] Unknown:

You have to put a hyphen in between annas, a n n a s hyphen. Paul, did you do that?  

[02:34:48] Unknown:

Wow.   I,   I didn't know they allowed that.   We're crying out loud.   I didn't know they allowed that in URLs.   And it's archive.com   or .org.  

[02:35:30] Unknown:

Yeah. It's I stuck a link in the chat, Paul, but it's actually you know, has my search in it also. Anna's hyphen archive dot org.   I I I put a link.   But like I said, it has my search. I didn't just put Anna's archives,   but it has my search in there too for this patent IRS thing. That's   I mean, it got hits,   but it's just not the right book.  

[02:35:59] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a lot of hits.   Partial matches. There's no actual files found for that title.  

[02:36:08] Unknown:

Right. So But so you got the site there too. So you have Anna's   Yes. You can, I'm sure, get to the main one from there. Anna's-archive.org  

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goes   goes to the right site.  

[02:36:26] Unknown:

And I do have that You know, Paul, like you, I try to be helpful. You know? I try. We try.   Of course. You're you're usually much more than I, but, you know, I try.  

[02:36:38] Unknown:

Alright. Well,   can we all do what we can do? Right?   Alright.   So   well, it's not   in that one   and this one.   Oh, I have milli literally millions of bookmarks.   Lot of duplications.   Lot of them.   Oh, good lord.   There we go.   Found it.   Did you find it on Anna's archive, Paul? I've I found the bookmark for Anna's archive, and I put it in a spot where I can actually find it.   So, no, it's not on Anna's archive. It's not on WeLive, and it's not on archive.org.   And the only place it is on Amazon says it's currently unavailable, but there is no,   there is no,   publication   number, registration   number for it.  

No Library of Congress number. No nothing. It was self published.  

[02:38:19] Unknown:

Does the,   link or there's a wording that, is there any ampersands or anything and then book name or is it, and it did Mark read it out correctly?  

[02:38:30] Unknown:

I didn't.   I found it on, amazon.com.   It is IRS colon liars comma thieves comma thugs comma cowards and hypocrites   by Pat Patton, author.   Published by e liar. A Patton. Comma,  

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thugs   and   hypocrites.  

[02:38:54] Unknown:

Well, Eric, tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm a I'm a do something for you.   Let's see here.   I'm gonna go,   to there,   and I'm gonna copy this here link. Copy this here linkage.   Copy.   And I'm gonna drop that right in the,   the conference call chat.   And   that way, you can actually see how Amazon   spelled it.   And they did have it at one time. So, apparently,   apparently, Pat Patton did   have one of those. Now there is one place that I have not looked,   and that would be   eBay.   EBay, eBay, eBay.   Don't know for sure.   No exact matches found.   Nope.  

Of course, there's a whole bunch of books that   use the word   liars and thieves.  

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So  

[02:40:49] Unknown:

See, when I did my search on Yandex,   it actually came up first, booksbypatent.tripod.com.   But then and it says   IRS   colon   liars, comma thieves, you know, the right title. And then the evidence shows the justice   in quotation marks   department,   the Internal Revenue Service, and the courts know the evil and mischief   perpetrated and allowed.   K. That's their little short honest, but then you click on the link, and it's   four zero four error.  

[02:41:31] Unknown:

Wow.  

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Page not found.  

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Okay.  

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Well, you shits. I just say, well, you shits.  

[02:41:40] Unknown:

Yeah. There's nothing on eBay either.   There's there's nothing on eBay for it. There are 12 search results for patent,   IRS,   and all there is is, like, paperback books on small business tax and plants, and they get you for a $150   for those too.  

[02:42:01] Unknown:

Oh, alright. Yeah. The damage and the,   the HP notice you have to write up.  

[02:42:08] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:42:09] Unknown:

Who's who's unmuted?  

[02:42:12] Unknown:

Talk with us. You're unmuted.  

[02:42:15] Unknown:

Oh, sorry.  

[02:42:18] Unknown:

No biggie.   He's okay.   He'll kill you later.   Like Ahmed.   Or Jeff Dunham. Who was that? No. It was Jose Jalapeno.   He was gonna hire Achmed to to take out Walter.  

[02:42:41] Unknown:

Who said jalapeno?   Jose jalapeno.   Jalapeno.   Alright. I really like to say in Chicago, hallo haller pino.   Uh-huh. But, hope is that really not that hot   compared to other  

[02:42:58] Unknown:

Well, I think some places in the South, they call them Haller Painters.   Haller Painters? Yeah. Right? Okay. And the Haller Painters?  

[02:43:08] Unknown:

That's right. That's right. Yeah.   But we're used to that kind of pain in Chicago.  

[02:43:13] Unknown:

Yeah. That's so annoying. I call them jalapenos  

[02:43:15] Unknown:

because I don't know. I pronounce Jaysus Jays myself.  

[02:43:21] Unknown:

Ah. JAYSUS.   Yeah. J a y s u s. Jesus.  

[02:43:29] Unknown:

You know, I saw something I saw something hilariously   funny.   It was,   it was a meme.   And, you know, anybody sensitive or triggerable, just plug your ears.   It was a picture of two guys, two hairy guys in a bathtub,   and and the caption was,   the phrase,   Jesus loves you means something totally diff may mean something totally different.   Oh god.  

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Yeah. For sure.   Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Jesus comes with a machete.   Okay?  

[02:44:13] Unknown:

Yeah. I got one of them. I got a 17 inch.   Yeah.   Yeah. 17 inch   I got a 17 inch machete and a 42   inch dual,   and   double edge, claymore  

[02:44:28] Unknown:

sword. Oh, wow. Okay.  

[02:44:30] Unknown:

Yeah. That that damn claymore is about six pounds. You really gotta have some   gotta have some wheels to swing that one.  

[02:44:39] Unknown:

Yeah. It was kinda sort of the Vikings had. Right?  

[02:44:43] Unknown:

Uh-huh. Got it. Had lined up. Claymore.   That's that's like I got my own   freaking Excalibur. Thank you very much.  

[02:44:54] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:44:55] Unknown:

Anyway Right.  

[02:44:57] Unknown:

Okay.   How much time is left, guys?  

[02:45:00] Unknown:

Because How much time is left on the Yeah. For your for your,  

[02:45:05] Unknown:

on your show.  

[02:45:07] Unknown:

Well, I was gonna I was gonna wrap it up, like,   fourteen minutes ago, but I didn't get around to it.   So I'll let it go until 02:00, and then we'll shut her down unless,   there is nothing   interesting   being discussed.  

[02:45:24] Unknown:

Right. Well, I I have an update on my, Amicus Curiae brief. Oh, yeah. Go ahead.   Yeah. Let me, the the the judge accepted it. You know, as I reported last time, I had to   make a plea to the court for the judge to even read it   Right. Because that's their it's like a they call what do they call it? A   a,   it it's a plea, but, it it uses archaic language.   Meaning you have   to bow to the court,   like to the king. Right?   And ask his permission   for him to read it. Okay? And so I didn't ask his permission to read it the first time I submitted it,   and so he rejected it on that round.  

But,   I have it here,   and,   I added something else. I was very, very pleased that he actually   consented to read it, and he submitted it and all to the,   defense, which is the defense lawyers for Donald Trump.   And,   is everybody here familiar with the situation,   or should I go with a brief update?  

[02:46:32] Unknown:

You were the the case that you update. Please update.   The case that you filed it with was was a case against Donald Trump for what? Right.  

[02:46:45] Unknown:

Okay. For   trying to make the international   antisemitism   language,   which is that it could be law in other countries for all I know,   to try to make it a rule here in America. I guess he wants to make it a law, right, that you can't criticize Jews.  

[02:47:04] Unknown:

Alright? And Right. The, the Yeah. Can I can I just say something more? Can I just say something real quick? He signed it in April of twenty twenty five, and it's on the executive order of federalregister.gov.   And it's under the disguise of the name,   Education   Sharing Day   and USA.  

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That's   similar way they passed the Noahide laws.   Some kind of education day. Maybe   right. Okay. It's always under the disguise of some other   objective. Right? And so Darryl McClanahan signed file. They hide it. Yeah. They   Right. So you don't know what what the law really is. You know, this is trickery legal trickery.   But the case number is 3Colon25Dash   I can maybe type it   in the chat area if I can find it.   3Colon25DashCVDash05025DashMDH.   And so   Donald Trump has been served with the initial,   complaint.   He's been served it, and now his lawyers have to respond. I don't know how much time they have to respond,   but the judge approved my amicus brief   in which I,   you know, accounted   several different reasons why the word antisemitism   is too vague to be   legitimately discussed in a court of law. Okay?  

That was my basic premise.   And so,   I added something to it. I think there's only   I added to it at the very beginning, so I'll just read real quickly. And just feel free to interrupt if you have a question, anybody.   Okay. So the introduction to my amicus brief,   in support of Darryl Leon McClanahan the third's complaint challenging the constitutionality   of executive order one three eight nine nine in this expanded application, which should be expanded in all kinds of ways.   The undersigned amicus curiae Eli James, a minister of the Christian identity faith, submits this brief pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 24   and Missouri rule three seventy five,   asserting a significant interest in the legal issues presented   and offering unique perspectives that may assist the court in its determination.  

Okay.   So the interest, what is my interest? What why am I interested in this case   filed by Darryl Leon McClanahan?   And I have to scroll down here. Eli James is a minister of the Christian identity faith, a belief system that holds specific interpretations   of biblical scripture related to the identity of the descendants of ancient Israel.   Christian identity is recognized as a as a legitimate faith as per religious land use and institutionalized   persons act   signed by president Clinton in the year February.   Do I need to repeat that, anybody?  

Okay.   Christian identity is   in fact,   the filings that I've done on behalf of Christian   identity   in various legal cases regarding   prisons,   Christian identity has been recognized by the federal court system I mean, sorry, prison system   and various state prison systems as well. So nobody can say we're not a legitimate faith.   Okay? And I'm I'm quoting   r l u I p a, that's the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized   Persons Act   42 USC,   paragraph paragraph 2,000 CC.   And so this is part of the law already.   It protects   individuals,   houses of worship,   and other religious institutions from discrimination   in zoning and landmarking laws   For information on RLUIPA's   institutionalized   persons provision,   please refer to the civil rights division,   special litigation   section.  

And and, continue,   president Trump's attempt to establish national and international opinions as as law   would violate the rights of prisoners to practice religion according to their own consciences   as is provided under RLUIPA.   As these individuals could be directly affected,   it may be worth considering whether executive order one three eight nine nine could directly contradict   RLUIPA.   As a preacher, Eli James has a deep concern for the preservation of religious freedom and the right to express his faith with an without undue government interference.   Just as important is the fact that no private party by which I I meant the a ADL, which I that I sent you the,   paperwork, the legal paperwork,   actually, the letter sent to me by the ADL,   canceling my,   Poweb account in 02/2012.  

Okay? So I preserved that. I copied it, and I've submitted that as part of my filing as well to show the ADL is hostile to freedom of speech.   Okay?   So,   the as a Christian identity minister in   recognized in the federal court system or sorry, federal prison system,   I have pled several cases   to allow   Christian identity prisoners   to have segregated   meetings,   to have segregated,   cells. They can't force you to,   have a cellie that's not white   or Jewish or anything like that because they will try to do that to you. You the what r l u I p a does, it not only   legitimizes   and puts into law   religious   segregation,   but also racial segregation. Why? Because Christian identity   preaches racial segregation as well because Israelites are not supposed to have anything to do with non Israelites. Okay?  

So this is the effect of this r l u I p a,   which is still in existence. Clinton signed it, I think, 1997   or something. Just before he left office. Oh, no. February. Okay. I guess 2000 must be the year. Okay.   So any any questions   from anybody   at this point? Because I see you're getting ready to wrap it up anyway.   Yeah. Yes.  

[02:53:30] Unknown:

Yes.   Well, what what was that part,   Eli, about   that,   your religion people   are not supposed to associate with Jews. I'm sorry. That's the way I heard it. I may have said it wrong, but do you do you understand what I'm asking? What Oh, absolutely. What did you say? What did okay.  

[02:53:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, the the Bible is a racially segregated document.   It says very clearly that Israel   is the apple of his eye   and that, Israel is supposed to dwell alone.   We're not supposed to integrate with other races. There's numerous passages of scripture that assert that, and that's what we believe. We we believe that the white race, the Caucasian people, are the true Israelites,   and the Jews are imposters.   It's the Jews who are trying to force us to integrate   against our will. Okay?   That's the essential that's our position, and this position is recognized   by the federal prison system.  

They're, you know, they're not   okay.   Question? Beautiful.  

[02:54:41] Unknown:

Yes. I got another question. What is your name? And how do we get a what is your name and how do we get a copy of this?  

[02:54:47] Unknown:

I already have a copy of it, and this is Eli James. He brings us eurofolkradio.com.  

[02:54:53] Unknown:

Right. Wow.  

[02:54:55] Unknown:

Yeah. And I haven't sent you the updated Hey. Yeah. How about you?  

[02:55:00] Unknown:

Yeah. Hold on, Bory. Hang on, Bory. Yeah.   Okay. Yes. Yes. Hang on. Hang on one second.   Eli What did you Eli, you you haven't sent me what?  

[02:55:12] Unknown:

I haven't sent you this updated brief with the additional language from the RLU IPA.   So I'll I'll send that to you after the show. Okay? You have the original brief, which subject with this language.   Okay?   The judge rec the judge recognized it. It's part of the system now, and he's given it to the defense lawyers,   which is Donald Trump's lawyers,   and they have to look it over. It's quite possible they might object to this,   but I didn't put anything about racial segregation in there. I just talked about religious segregation. Okay? Right.   To be careful. Yeah.  

Yeah. It is incredible. Right? So we may be able yeah. I may be making a trip to the White House soon.  

[02:55:56] Unknown:

Uh-oh. And lay down the law to I really don't know if you wanna do that.   No. That's going that's venturing into the belly of the beast. The minute you cross the   the District Of Columbia line,  

[02:56:09] Unknown:

you're asking for Oh, you're right.  

[02:56:11] Unknown:

You're right. That's better.   The District Of Columbia is part of the three,   unclean   frogs   in the book of Revelation. One is DC,   the other is London, which is the banking, center, and the other is the Vatican,   which is   a a a town   a a nation unto itself.  

[02:56:33] Unknown:

Yeah. The religious arm. Indeed.  

[02:56:35] Unknown:

Right. Those are the three unclean frogs of the book of Revelation.  

[02:56:40] Unknown:

Yep. Okay.   District Of Columbia is military.   City Of London is financial, and the Vatican is,   religious.  

[02:56:50] Unknown:

Right. And the Jews are just fine with that because the Jews have propped up the they took over the Vatican in 1963.   So what you're actually dealing with is Judeo Catholicism.  

[02:57:02] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:57:03] Unknown:

Okay.   And,   the the folks have been on board with this since 1963.   Okay. So just wanna update you guys at this, the court the case is proceeding nicely.   You know, we could,   well, if we have to, we'll take it all the way to the Supreme Court.   Right?   But, this gives legal legal scope to our position   that Christian identity   is a racially segregated, religiously segregated religion,   as most religions were until the Jews,   started practicing this one world religion called the United Nations. Right?   Yeah. They've been trying to push on us forever.   So,   it's not likely to go too far, but at least we should be getting publicity now.  



[02:57:53] Unknown:

Yeah. You know, I would think so.  

[02:57:56] Unknown:

Yeah. So so, Paul, I'll just attach this, updated brief   to your,   your what do you call it? Not your email. Your Teams. Teams. Your Teams. Yeah. My Teams.   Next time. And have you had a chance to share   my paperwork against the ADL or the paperwork the ADL   filed against me in 02/2012?  

[02:58:18] Unknown:

No. I have not yet.   But what I'm gonna do is I'm going to set up a folder up on, the Google Drive,   which is docs.exposetomatrix.com.   I have a two terabyte Google Drive. So any information that you want to be there, I will build a folder for that.  

[02:58:37] Unknown:

Yeah. And then maybe I can come back another time, and we can, actually discuss   that letter the ADL put out to Poweb   to take me off the air.   Uh-huh. K?   So yeah. Alright.   So, people need to know how evil the ADL really is. Right? They they have license to shut anybody down   since they control our government.  

[02:58:59] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:59:00] Unknown:

Alright. That that's the reality.   Okay?   Okay, guys. Thanks for letting me barge in here at the very end, and thanks, Paul, for keeping it going for a few more minutes. Okay? And then, you know, I'll contact you about a good time to discuss that ADL letter.  

[02:59:16] Unknown:

Oh, anytime is a good time to discuss an ADL letter or anything   anything antisemitic   and even in in in spirit or No. No. No. No.  

[02:59:27] Unknown:

They're not Semites. That's why I point out in my brief.  

[02:59:30] Unknown:

Well, well, right. But, you know, anything against the, anything against the posers that would, call themselves Jews. Yeah. Anything against them. That's a good term. No. We're not antisemites. We're anti posers.   Yeah. Exactly.  

[02:59:45] Unknown:

Right?   Yeah. Okay. We gotta have correct language.  

[02:59:50] Unknown:

Yes. We do. Well, Roger's not gonna have any problem with anytime you wanna come on the show and talk about this. I'm just telling you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, glad to be here. Thanks for letting me on, and we'll we'll talk about this another time. Okay?   Alright. Thank you, Eli.  

[03:00:07] Unknown:

Alright, Paul. Take care. Take care, everybody. Bye.  

[03:00:10] Unknown:

Take care. Thank you.  

[03:00:12] Unknown:

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