In today's episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates through a variety of topics, focusing on the process of becoming a national and the intricacies involved in dealing with governmental agencies. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding one's political status and the power of a well-crafted affidavit. Listeners are treated to success stories from individuals who have successfully navigated encounters with law enforcement and governmental entities, showcasing the effectiveness of the strategies discussed on the show.
Additionally, the episode delves into the challenges faced when dealing with passport applications and the bureaucratic hurdles that can arise. Roger and his guests emphasize the significance of education and understanding in overcoming these obstacles. The episode also features a lively discussion on the importance of recording interactions with authorities and the potential pitfalls of over-communicating during such encounters. Overall, the episode serves as a comprehensive guide for those seeking to assert their rights and navigate the complexities of governmental systems.
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And so would we. Thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you, Alvin Lee, for introducing us here. Love to change the world. We try on a regular basis, six days a week anyway, to, take at least take a swing at that big fat softball coming over the plate. And, we will, of course, do so again this this, Thursday. It's today. So Thursday, May. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. We have a number of folks that do help us extend our reach all over El Globo. El Mundo is the Spanish word, El Mundo, and, we wanna give them proper recognition and thanks. It's the fifth of the month of June. Go ahead, Paul.
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Alright. Yes. We have a full complement of, platforms joining us this morning. We have, radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the pond, across the drink. We have one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago. Thanks to WDRN productions, Fort Collins, Colorado, and the net family of broadcast services, including homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live TV, and streamlife.tube. Our anchor primary platform is eurofolkradio.com, and we give our thanks to not only Paul, our buddy across the pond, but also pastor Eli James who, joined us, just last week.
Information on, on that archive, if you go to the show notes, if you go to the show description, I have added a link to, Eli's Amicus Curie Brief, that he, posted an article about on Eurofolkradio.com. Just go to that link, and you'll be able to read the entire thing for yourself. That being said, we are on EurofolksRadio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we are on Global Voice Radio Network, that via PodHome and, all of the syndicated platforms that, PodHome brings us. We also have a website that is the matrixdocs.com, where you will find links to Eurofolks, to Global Voice Radio, and you will also find links to free conference call to join us live on the show. And I'm really excited. I think it's gonna be a great program today.
Roger, I will get with you favor,
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Paul. For anybody that's listening, if you wish in order to speak, it is adults only no matter how old you are. So if you're a hundred and 50 years old and you do not act as an adult, don't expect to be speaking.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Was that Alan?
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Yeah. Alan, your your mic sounds terrible, and it's a little low. So Now Maybe we can
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get together. Today is is Alan not in court now? Evidently, he's not. He's speaking to us. So do we have his full compliment today or not? Yes. We do. We have his full compliment.
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And, also, Roger, I'm gonna have to get with you. Make sure that you have the link to StreamYard so you can join, Paul English for Paul English live this afternoon. I'll make sure that you have,
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all this stuff. Okay. Well, you and I need to spend a little time period, so we'll take a break after the show and do that. I think I've got StreamYard on here, but I may not after that this,
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IO change we had a while back. So I just don't know. You know? Well, he'll he'll send you a link in an email, and all you've gotta do is click on that link. Or you can go you can go to paulenglishlive.com/call,ca
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Okay. Woah. Oh, okay. Let's deal with it later. K? Alright. Well, I heard somebody's gonna send me a link for yesterday's interview. That never came either. So, you know, it's a little bit, thin ice here today, and I did not in do the interview with Kevin yesterday because I think there's too many cooks in the kitchen. You know, I I always deal with somebody directly and he hears this and this. Then we'll do it this time, and I didn't get that from Kevin. I got it from Julie. And so the link never showed up, and the email I did get from Kevin was, I'm real busy this week. We might have to pass Sunday is good. So and I wrote him back and gave him some options, and I never heard back from him. I never got a link from him. I never got any correspondence from him. Okay. Well I just chined it on. Alright? So that's what happened yesterday. There's too many cooks in the kitchen. That's the problem. Julie was Julie was talking to him last night, and she texted me just after midnight,
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saying that he had sent the link to both you and Julie on Tuesday. So it might have wound up in your spam folder.
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No. It's not my spam folder. I've only gotten one email from him ever, and it didn't have a link in it. It had a long paragraph with all kinds of stuff. So, anyway, that's the problem. A, too many cooks in the kitchen. If I had directly dealt with him, we would have known there was a disconnect. I didn't, so we didn't. So that's the problem. Okay? But it'll be it'll work out. No big deal. There you know, I've spent almost seventy seven years without talking to Kevin, so it hadn't hurt me yet. So we'll probably get it next week. Okay?
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Yeah. Okay. Well, pulling was what I was gonna be doing.
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Okay. Sorry, audience. Usually, we don't have all this discomboboration there. But we got a little bit today, a little bit of confusion, and I found out, of course, yesterday afternoon that I was gonna be on with Paul today. And, hopefully, Paul will send me that directly. K? Yeah. And that is, 04:00 eastern time. Correct?
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Yeah. Four to six. You'll you'll have three to me. You'll have the second hour of the WBN three two four program and the whole after show. So and that's typically an hour long.
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Okay. So Paul's gonna take the first hour and do whatever he wants to do, and then I'm on the second hour. That's kinda the way he schedules guests, I think, from what I've listened to. Right? Yep. Okay. Alright. Well, stay on top of me. Would would you? Because this is all a a bit confusing, but it'll work out for sure. Okay. Is that over?
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Just keep an just keep an eye on your email, and that's how I'll communicate with you until I can remote into both of your computers and straighten out Teams.
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So you can Yeah. You gotta do that too because I've got five Skype messages, and it never shows up. It just rings and rings and rings. I don't know how to get to it. It's just one damn mess in at least my life that Microsoft has created, and I'm sure it's not just mine. But it's I've been using Skype for sixteen years. It's my go to umbilical cord to The US, and now it's gone. And so it's, it's quite confusing. I can't figure out I can't get an order in for a magicJack because of whatever reason. And so it's just one big frustration. K?
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I think what you're gonna have to do, with magic I ordered a magicJack, and it it went just fine. What you're gonna have to do is when you order the magicJack, you're gonna have to actually order it with a shipping address in The US.
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It is in The US. I've got that already. It's not out in the country. But Okay. The the website will will not let me go forward. It gets to a point I try to put in the correct information, won't go forward. So, after aggravating a whole day I love spending the time on the radio show for this. After a whole day or two of trying, I just got so aggravated. I threw my hands up in the air and walked away from it because that's the way I handle stuff like that. Okay. So, anyway, that's still where we are. I ordered one of the call me if you're listening, you're trying to call me on Skype from The US and I don't answer, I can't answer because I don't know how.
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Right. Well, I ordered the magicJack, so I've already been through it once. And I can remote in, and we can get her done.
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No problem. So sorry for all the crap you tuned in out of your life to listen to this stuff and beneficial. I know this isn't, and I'm sorry. And the whole show just started off wrong. K? So, anyway, we'll try and go forward and smooth it out in live radio. Okay? Great, Paul.
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It's just to let him know that not everything is sunshine and roses. You know? There's hiccups everywhere, so it's okay. We got. Yeah. Okay.
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Alright. Anyway, well, we got sunshine in Ecuador this morning as opposed to yesterday. It's all cloudy for the most part. So that I hope that's a step in the right direction, but, I will be, I guess, on with Paul English this afternoon, and we'll we'll cross our fingers. And I hope to hope his technical trousers or my technical underwear doesn't have any giddy ups. So, there we go. Alright. Good morning, I think. We were supposed to start the show off, I believe. Was it Kathy from Montana with the the letter from yesterday that her friend got? And I guess Larry's come armed with his response from a previous letter. Though they've changed, it appears, there's another change in that first paragraph. Now that's the one they've been using since they started this.
So somebody's gotten in and tweaked it a little bit. Now what they're doing is they're trying to see if you if they can bluff you again. They know they fooled your ass your whole life, and now you're on to them. And and you got the answer that they can't overcome, so they're gonna try and bluff you again. So that's all this is. Okay? So if you receive one of these, it's just more proof that these guys are the biggest pieces of crap, slave and lying, murdering bastards that have ever walked the face of the earth, and we beat them. And we beat them with one sentence on one piece of paper to one guy, and they stand mute. The biggest, baddest son of a bitches that have ever walked the face of the earth, folks. Mhmm.
We we shut them up mute silence with one sentence. That's how powerful they are. And people say they don't they don't recognize. Well, they do recognize it. And if they weren't scared of it and if they weren't following the rules, you think they'd be sending out bluff letters?
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Paul, do you? If they had anything of any substance or any way to address it, they wouldn't bother with the bluff letter. They'd just shut it down.
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They'd come do what Michael thinks they're gonna do. Hey. I'm gonna come kick the door in and take your stuff. Okay? Well, they don't do that. It doesn't work that way. And they've got a it's their whole system is built on this and hiding this, and if they don't recognize that their whole system's gone. So that's where we get numbers. We get numbers. We put pressure on them. Yep. Okay? And that's the object. The object is to put pressure on them with enough people and have enough people start pulling themselves out of their damn system. And what's the real tag here? The real tag is they're shackling you to this false debt. And this breaks that chain, and they can't do a damn thing about it except expose themselves and be open tyrants. That's their only option here.
So, anyway, it's, it's foolproof. It's proven. It works. If you wanna be free under Jewish slavery or you're tired of living your life under these sorry pieces of of garbage, I'd say human garbage, but I'm not sure they're human, of garbage. They're just garbage. They're slime. They're scum. K? You wanna separate yourself from that? You wanna get out from under being in servitude to these bastards through all this fraud? This is the place to be because we can help you do that. So, that was Cathy, are you with us this morning? I believe it was Cathy, wasn't it?
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Good morning, Roger. It's Christie
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from Christie. I'm sorry, sweetie. I'm sorry. I've got a lot floating around in my head as you can probably tell. Now Christie is one of our listeners out west in Montana. Correct? But do you you don't regularly attend Gary and Gina's meetings? You're a little bit aways from Kalispell. Right?
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Well, they haven't had meetings
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for clients that we do too. I know. Yeah. But
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I used to attend as as often as I could, and they were, they're not very far away. And,
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they'll Well, that's good. When I could.
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Yeah. Yep. So, great great path. Gary had really good information, and, it was definitely, a lot of people was involved. Well It was it was a great thing.
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Well, I have a feeling they're going to recommence as soon as we get Gary back in the health realm. But, Gary and Gina, you're very fortunate that you're not too far away. You can drive and get to a meeting of like minded people. Excuse me. Absolutely. Just what I need today because that's a very powerful, environment to inject yourself into. You meet a lot of friends. It helps ease the troubled minds, and and you get exposed to a lot of information. So, hopefully, Gary will be at a point health wise where they can start that up. I know the last time he was on, he said people are calling him and asking him when they're gonna start again. So, you were one of those students. You're very fortunate to be in that environment. Now do you wanna go with let's save the other thing until that is resolved and you can come and tell the whole story. K?
Because Christie's got another aspect of this too. Go ahead. I'm sorry for interrupting. Go ahead.
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Oh, that's okay. I said I'll know more about the ATF case by in about a month. So that'll be a very exciting story to tell, and I just don't wanna start telling the story without having a conclusion.
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Yeah. Well yeah. I understand. And you leave, but we'll just tell you that she's been with. She's been through an experience for about the last, what, year or a little over and, with the ATF on an on an issue. And, it's very interesting story. We don't have the conclusion yet, but as, Christy says, we should have in about a month. So she'll be back to, give us that. And I know she wants to, and, I want her to. And Mark's well aware of this. He knows about this also. So, we'll get to that when the time comes. Let's go back to your friend that you were helping that got this bluff letter, this new bluff letter back that we discussed in the after show yesterday. This came up in the after show, and I want to move it to the, to the whole audience today. Hey, Raj.
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Yes, sir. Paul. One quick comment. The added audio processing added a half second delay between Zoom and free conference calls, so just be conscious for that. Okay. You know, it it it's not full duplex, and there is a half second to a second delay. But, I don't know. I had to balance, no delay with normalizing,
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and making ABC sound better. So Yeah. Okay. Well, there's all trade offs in life. You know? Exactly. Okay. So, Christy, you wanna, tell us since the some of the people yesterday here heard that, obviously. But for the others that didn't, you wanna just start from you got a friend. You were helping him submit all his paperwork and understand. And you wanna tell us the story?
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Sure. Yep. So I have a friend that went through all the paperwork, and, I helped them because I I believe that, you know, after all of my experience with dealing with the feds and stuff, your your system works. And I tell people do not stray from Rogers' system. So we filed with secretary of state. I told him, you know, let that sit for about a month. He filed with the IRS, and he filed for his passport card, And it was his original. You know, he had to go and and swear the oath, and I told him that, you know, they might give him a little issue there, which they didn't. And so he took the oath, and they sent everything off, and then he got a a letter yesterday.
And, you know, new people are a little nervous about this to begin with. So let me just get to that letter.
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Yeah. I'd like for you to not wanting to I pretty well got I'm sorry that we got this little lag. I'm have to get used to it. I'm I'm very familiar with the first paragraph, over all those other letters for all these years. Now evidently, they've changed it a bit. And, so that was one thing I wanted you to read over again slowly for the audience today and, show you what they're really trying to do, I believe, is to see how much you know. Are you a Anavon Wright student or maybe a former David Strait student, or are you one of my students? Because our students, you hear me every day on here, emphasize and accentuate the education part of this. We're not in this condition because of a lack of people filing paperwork.
We're in this position because of a lack of education and understanding and then coupled with filing per proper paperwork. But the education that you the understanding, you don't have to know every jot, every tittle, every nuance, every little fact, but you do have to have an understanding of what you've done and why and how to defend it. The two key points are, is your understanding enough where you can defend your position if it's challenged and where you can teach other people what we're doing here and help spread the word. Because those two are really critical. And if you can't do that, don't file the damn paperwork. Or at least it'll if you file the paperwork at a time, make a commitment to yourself that you're gonna learn it and understand it until you can do those two things adequately.
Also, if you really wanna learn the information, teach it to others. That's where your fastest learning curve is. K? So sorry, Christy, to inject that, but that's really important for people to understand. And I just don't want people filing paper and then going about their lives. And the reason is nothing changes. You don't change because you don't have the information, and the world certainly isn't gonna react to you filing the paperwork. Okay? So you've got to be the change. The only way that can happen is if you learn and understand the information and have command of it. Period.
So that's my stance on all this. K? I want to affect change. Absolutely. You can affect change unless people know and understand what's been done to us, who did it to us, how they did it to us, and why you're getting out of it and how. K? So sorry to get on my soapbox here. I guess that's the kind of show it's gonna be today. But, anyway, I'm gonna turn it back over to you, Christy, because I wanna hear this paragraph, and the audience wants to hear from you.
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Okay. Yep. I'll just start from the just the beginning. It's pretty short. So, it's, you know, dear dear mister Brown, thank you for your recent passport application. It appears from the fact of your birth and the documents you submitted that you are a US citizen entitled to a US passport. A review of your application shows that you were born within the territory of The United States and subject to its jurisdiction. The laws applicable to US passport provide that you may only be issued a US passport showing you are a US citizen. Therefore, please advise this office, if you wish a US passport to be issued to you at this time, it will show that you are a US citizen.
Because we have no authority to issue a passport showing you as anything other than a US citizen, your application will be denied unless we receive, yeah, will be denied unless we receive a response from you within ninety days.
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Okay. Liars. First of all, it's it's right in the passport. The the delays I'm sorry. The it says right in the passport, everybody here knows that if you've been around here for any length of time at all, passports are only issued to US citizens slash national. So one of the things I hope, and I can understand where this guy wouldn't come at him like I would like to. If it were me, and I would accuse him of being liars, I would hit it with something like, dear former secretary of state slave masters, and then say it doesn't say am subject to. It's it doesn't say are. It says and. There's something that did it. I may have erroneously, because of your fraudulent system, answered questions, yes, that I was and accidentally signed something because of your fraud. But now I don't I know about your fraud, and I'm straightening it out, and you can't say no. Send me my damn documents I paid for.
That would be me. But I can understand where this guy wouldn't wanna come at him like that. K? But there are ways to address it.
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When we're new to this, like, I remember being a little bit, you know, scared because you're Sure. You're telling the people that you've been scared of your whole life, you know, to to buzz off. And, you know, I've I've been a national now for about three years. And, the more that you understand it, the more empowered you are. So when when we got this letter, I was like, well, this is no big deal. I'll talk to Roger and the crew about it. And, you know, and he's like, oh my goodness. You know, they're they're denying me. And so
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No. No. And they're not. You see, they're just trying to test you to see what you you know. And now you know they're on top of slavers. They're liars because of that statement they put in there. That only passports are only issued to US citizens. That's a direct lie according to their own passport and their own regulations and their own damn statutes. They're liars. They're trying to test you and see how much you know. Now a David Strait student, an Anavon Wright student might shrink away and go hide in the corner from that and go, well, I guess I don't know what to reply. They're not gonna send me my documents. But we don't handle that like that because we know what's going on, unlike miss Von Wright's. We know what's going on. We know what they've done. We know how to untie the Gordian knot. Okay? And they can't do a damn thing about it to my knowledge. And all and remember, the it's only relatively lately the last few years that we've had people send the blank affidavit to the secretary of state first.
Okay? And that's because of a weird situation of one weird strange guy that had this particularly unusual circumstances, but we took that and, in my mind, I said, well, it it can't hurt to send them this paperwork, as many as you can. That only helps our position. So the more of these pieces of paper with this information on them, that strongly two worded, two paragraph affidavit, the more of them that see that, the better off we are, it seems like to me. So because of this guy's drunk driving charges and his misunderstanding of American jurisprudence and the fact that they did not only do you know this story, Christie? They did not only deny his passport request.
They revoked his current open passport and kept his money. Okay? I couldn't tell that story. Yeah. Well, it it and for the audience that hasn't, if he would had at least a blank, affidavit, a naked affidavit, cover letter, and a blank affidavit in, at least he could have gone back to the passport office and had an appeal. What where's my where where's my administrative appeal? This was already submitted, but he didn't, so we didn't have anywhere to go. So that's where all this came from. One guy one guy caused the total change in process here of what we suggest. Anyway, you don't have to follow what we suggest. You can go fly off on on your own if you want to. But, anyway, it's accumulation of a number of years of dealing with students who have submitted this paperwork and gone forward and gotten these letters and these obstacles.
And so we come on here as a brain trust, if you will, and try and figure out how to get around them. That was one. It can't hurt to send them more affidavits, but if you don't have one in naked and you submit something and you got skeletons in your closet like this guy did, misunderstanding or not, that gave them a legitimate reason to to to rebut his, revoke his current passport and and and reject the application, keep his money. So if you've got one of those situations in your background, do it this way. If you don't, you don't have to worry about it as much. Remember, for the first number of years that we were teaching this, we didn't know have this situation come up.
Excuse me. And, so we just tell you to go ahead and, apply for a passport straight off. And we didn't have any problem with that for a couple of years until all of a sudden, enough of them started coming in where evidently they started sending out the original bluff letter, which at the end of the first paragraph, you can see it's been re reworked a bit, Christy, because at the end of the first paragraph, it's pretty much the same paragraph, except at the end, it says except by operational law. And they've dropped that now. So we'll just use it anyway.
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K? If they want you to come through an extra hoop to get your documents by, responding within ninety days to their response.
[00:28:55] Unknown:
Yep. Well, that's not that's not bad. That's a long time, actually, when you think about it. And the other situation that happened about a year year and a half ago was Jerry and his wife up in New York had the same type of thing. He had done his earlier than her, got his documents back. He did hers, and she gets a call from the passport office, as many of you have heard this story. And, Jerry says, she comes in. I got a call from the passport office. He said, tell him you're in a meeting, and you'll get a callback in twenty, thirty minutes, something like that. He did that. When the phone rang, Jerry got on there, and they had a discussion with a gentleman who identified himself as Hilton. No first name, no last name, no no badge number, no employee number, no nothing. Just Hilton.
My suspicion is Hilton was somebody either in the upper echelons of, administrative bureaucracy there at the passport division or maybe even Hilton was somebody from the Seventh Floor of the state department where all the the bad crap goes on. And those people know everything that's happening up there. And if it came from one of them, it even goes to solidify the fact that they're we've got their attention, folks. They're getting enough of these where we're getting their attention or Jerry wouldn't have gotten this call. K? And so Hilton goes in and says, well, your wife's born and it's connected to your Syracuse or something. And and she's a citizen of The United States, and we don't issue passports. Same crap here to anybody that isn't citizens. And Jerry was very sharp. He handled it very well to the point where the Hilton told them, he said, well, you really know your stuff. Well, that's a real compliment to me, and I appreciate it, Hilton, whoever your sorry ass is. Okay? And so, Jerry said, okay. We'll send he said, well, I can't do this. I'll send you back the package. And Jerry's thinking, well, we'll try another approach and said, yes. Send me back the package. And when he and his wife got back from vacation, her passports were in the mailbox.
Bluff, bluff, bluff, bluff. These people are paper tigers people. They're paper tigers. They might have a lot of money. They might have a lot of influence. They're all all pretty pretty much stolen and derived from ill immoral and illegal ways, but they don't have a lot of power unless you give it to them. And they got our collective 300 and something million dollars worth of worth of, a a a 350,000,000 worth of people agreeing with their little scam. So they've got that much power. Well, we're taking it away one at a time. And taking it away, the power is what? To pass man made laws, administrative agencies, and attach them to you or else attach you to this debt, this hypothecated fraudulent debt. I'll get you in a second. Hypothecated fraudulent debt of 37,000,000,000,000.
We're adding a trillion dollars to the debt every year. Right now, it's all fraud, every damn bit of it. And what this process allows you to do is to unhitch yourself from this from the debt wagon. Okay. Now, Christy, do you have anything to say? I think that was Samuel. I'll get him in just a second. So, Christy, any any other observations, or is there anything else of import in that correspondence?
[00:32:19] Unknown:
Not not from the correspondence from the state or the passport department. And I think was it Larry that, I did get his link that he sent to a sample letter, and so we're gonna Oh, good. Formulate one to to respond back. And Mhmm. So I appreciate that. And, you know, everything seems pretty straightforward, but it's great to bring up on the on the show. Also, I know it's been a while. One of the other students had called the passport office, and they talked to somebody that said that they were doing training on the well, just a couple weeks ago. A friend of mine called to inquire about
[00:32:59] Unknown:
that. That's right. I'm sorry for I this delay has kinda got me thrown. I'm sorry. It's, was Dave from Orlando.
[00:33:05] Unknown:
So go ahead. I wanna hear your side of this. Oh, okay. Yep. And so he called, and this was probably two or three weeks ago. And he called the passport office, and he just happened to get somebody that had that same response that we're getting so many of these affidavits that they're doing special training in the passport department to process them. And I was like, man, I wish we would've had that on recording. Yeah. Here lately, I've gotten into a habit of recording all my conversations with departments. And, that way, I just have them in my record, but that was a great one to have had.
But, you know, just straight up somebody in my group that that recently did this called to inquire, and he's like, yeah. They said that they're getting so many of these that they have to put on special classes. Boy, and I thought that was to my to your career. Music to my ears. Music to my ears, Christy. Thank you for bringing that forward. Audience, are you listening?
[00:34:02] Unknown:
They're starting to get so many of these. They're having classes on how to administrate them correctly, and they're scared because they're getting so many of them. They don't know any other thing to do but send out one of these very nebulously worded pieces of correspondence like the one Christy just read to us. K? Alright. A minute ago, was that you, Samuel, trying to say something?
[00:34:29] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Okay. Now's your time. I think they used the new I think they used a new tactic in there, Roger. If I heard the reading of the letter right, they said he was born in a territory, and, of course, he was born in a state with a name. I don't think she said territory. Territory. He could be a US citizen as well.
[00:34:51] Unknown:
Alright. Well, hold on because I didn't get territory anywhere out of what she read as Christy. Is the word territory? And it says you're pure by the fact you were born. It doesn't say territory, does it?
[00:35:04] Unknown:
Give me just a moment. Let me back up to the document here. It says, you were born within the territory of The United States and subject to jurisdiction.
[00:35:16] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'll make it can, yeah, fourteenth Amendment's what they're information
[00:35:21] Unknown:
and
[00:35:23] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Where was he born? I can Where where was he where was he born?
[00:35:29] Unknown:
I believe Missouri or Mississippi. Okay. Well, that's just, you know Midwest State.
[00:35:35] Unknown:
Uh-huh. You you could put something in the letter like, is Missouri, the state in which I was born, one of the quote, unquote, outlined territories as referred to in statutes? And so there's a number of ways you can respond to this. I don't think you'll have any problems getting his documents back. I think the and and our deal on the subject to is probably enough in in itself to do that. But with what all Larry gave you, and we haven't heard all those responses yet, you can pile on a bit, probably. That's good ears, Samuel. I didn't hear that. Roger.
Larry.
[00:36:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Whenever you're ready for me, I'm here. But, one of the things I wanted to say was, did, Christine read that it says in her correspondence or her friend's correspondence that it says except as otherwise provided by law or something to that effect?
[00:36:38] Unknown:
No. It wasn't in it. That is not drop the. Yeah, that's on go ahead, Christy. I'm sorry. We got this delay. Go ahead.
[00:36:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Nope. So that was not in there. I will I'll take a a screenshot and share this. I'll just blank out his information and share it in the the chat. If if I can post it, I'll figure it out. So so everybody can figure it out. Or I can put it in Also marker.
[00:37:03] Unknown:
Hold on, Larry. We got this delay. Okay.
[00:37:10] Unknown:
And I can put it in either this this chat or Marcus and so that way other people can see it.
[00:37:17] Unknown:
Okay. Larry, what's your comment?
[00:37:21] Unknown:
She must have received a link from maybe Dave from yesterday because I Yeah. I think you're getting ready. To, yeah, I'm getting ready to email Paul Beaner, a screenshot of the of the bluff letter that the per student I was helping, you know, what what he received. And then I'll also send a a a copy of my response, and, then Paul could put it in the chat or, you know, distribute it as he sees fit. And I'm gonna do that right now. And then when you're ready for me, I could I could read my response.
[00:38:00] Unknown:
Alright. We'll go ahead and get that administrative stuff out of the way, and we'll have you come back and read what you wrote back to them. And, we'll continue while you're working on that. Take Larry a couple of minutes or so. What do you you see oh, okay. Yes, sir.
[00:38:22] Unknown:
I just looked up what is a US territory. US territory is a region that is under the jurisdiction of The United States, but is not a state.
[00:38:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. But they yes.
[00:38:39] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:38:41] Unknown:
And he was born in, you could use probably use that in your bluff letter too. That's funny they would use that language in there.
[00:38:50] Unknown:
Actually,
[00:38:51] Unknown:
that definition on territory is so nebulous and used so many different ways. It's just a sort of a red herring they threw in there Nice. To to say you can be anything they want you to be, and and and it needs to be more specific, and that's why they went there.
[00:39:07] Unknown:
Well, anything you agree with to be more than they want you to be. But, Mirka, what was your, what was your Correct. What was your And I was gonna ask,
[00:39:17] Unknown:
Christy, about the full experience, if there was anything, that her friend heard that, representative or agent say about the, the affidavit. Was there anything else to it, or was that just the, they were just saying that they were getting a lot of those affidavits?
[00:39:40] Unknown:
Yeah. So he just said that they were getting a lot of them. And, my friend's everything went through just just fine. He got his documents in in a really short amount of time. No bluff letter. Basically, I think he was headed out of town to work, and he wanted to have that before he took off. So he called just to check on the status, and, he just happened to get a guy that that told him, oh, yeah. We're getting so many of those. But he didn't look up his affidavit or he didn't, you know, go go very deep into it. But, so I don't know if that answers your question, but No. It does. He didn't really say yeah. So he didn't say much about it or anything like that. But they did recognize it. They acknowledged that they got an affidavit that they're, training people, probably. Yeah. Oh, and then he also said something. So my friend's name is Josh. He's he's actually been on phone calls with me and, Mark in all caps before. So, anyway, Gus has a huge legal background, and so he likes to ask further questions.
And so he was like, oh, so do you know what a national is? And and this guy at the passport office was like, yeah. You know, you guys are not under the whole United States code.
[00:40:53] Unknown:
No. He did say that. Was applying to you.
[00:40:56] Unknown:
He did. Yeah. Yep. Wow. I wish I can get docs to call in. He works a busy schedule. But, Yeah. So, yeah, he did. He goes, yeah. You guys are not under, you know, all of the The United States code, and only certain ones apply. And, I was like, man, if we could have got that on recording Wow. That would have been that would amazing.
[00:41:16] Unknown:
From a foreign passport office employee. Wonderful.
[00:41:21] Unknown:
Because the I think we have a copy of that letter that you got on the National Status Freedom group, but we can compare if you wanna post it and and, like, pick at it and see, you know, what what they're saying and go over it together, if you wanna share it in there. And, we can bring it up on the show again later. Okay. That's your Telegram group? Yeah. And then, Larry Larry has his, response that he wanted to share. You know, I what I tell people is, like, you know, when you're understanding and learning the information, you'll know how to respond to them.
And, you know, yeah, they I I'm seeing that they're bluffing people with the IRS and the state department, even though they are training their agents to respond and to, you know, handle these correctly. It's just testing you guys. The the the ones that are studying, the new students that are coming in, it's just testing you what you know. And there are some that may mix the data, and we don't recommend it because we usually you know, what we do, the steps, the process that we follow is a formula to, you know, effectively weaponize your affidavits.
So, you know, if you're out there learning other things, you're gonna get confused, and you're gonna, probably add things to your, you know, effective, you know, notices that you're sending out that are pretty simple that we have, that that will in invite them to bring back, uplift, you know, towards you, a response towards you that will probably, you know, kinda get you stuck or, have you go back and have to do a little bit more studying. So, just keep it simple. That's all you need to do is keep it simple. Understand what you're reading and discuss it with us. You know, in national status freedom, we go over things, to to make sure that we're covering, you know, the wording that they're using and what they're saying.
And just remember, you know, once you put your affidavit into the secretary of state of DC, It is your choice, and we are now a private individual, no longer in the public, a federal citizen, and they have no authority over you.
[00:43:59] Unknown:
And even the employees are thinking. And even the employees at the post passport office evidently understand that. So that's really good feedback. Thank you. Thank you. Exactly. Oh, yes. Yes. Somebody just said Roger. Who was it? Boy, I'll tell you.
[00:44:27] Unknown:
Roger, I'm ready if you are.
[00:44:29] Unknown:
Okay. You know, Larry, a friend of mine told me some days you get the bear, and some days the bear gets you. Whoever was following Roger, didn't wanna come forward?
[00:44:41] Unknown:
Yeah. That was me. I didn't know I was muted. I was talking. I just had a question. That might be a big open door. Is it a small estate they wrote if it's not a one of the states, or is it a large estate?
[00:44:55] Unknown:
Because the smallest state is the Republic. They used United States,
[00:45:01] Unknown:
Scotty. Oh, I thought that when he read the letter, he used the word state. Oh. Not one of the states. The territory that letter I'll wait.
[00:45:14] Unknown:
The the territory you were born within a territory of The United States is what it said. K? Alright. But Roger. Didn't Okay.
[00:45:23] Unknown:
Larry. Roger, another thing that happens, before Larry starts, another thing that people could say, I am a private individual national. And Okay. The AG understands that, so that's good, to share to put on your paperwork if you Okay. You know, wanna make Thank you very much. Specify.
[00:45:43] Unknown:
Okay. Uh-huh. Okay. Larry,
[00:45:47] Unknown:
I think we're ready for you. Yeah. Did Paul get the, email? Did Paul get it?
[00:45:52] Unknown:
Paul, did you get the email?
[00:45:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Where's the rock?
[00:45:59] Unknown:
He's checking. It's the rock down the well. Okay.
[00:46:02] Unknown:
Well, it said it was sent. So but, this particular bluff letter that this student I helped received, it says in the first paragraph, it appears from the facts of your birth and the documents you submitted that you are a US citizen and entitled to a US passport in accordance with the fourteenth amendment and of the constitution of The United States. All persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States. As supreme law of the land, it cannot be waived by unilateral declaration. And here's that statement we always talk about, Roger, except as otherwise provided by law.
Yeah. The statutes applicable to US passports provide that you may be issued a US passport showing you are a US citizen. We are not in a position to respond to or enter into a dialogue concerning any views which disagree with the constitution or the citizenship laws of The United States as interpreted by the courts. Therefore, please advise this office in writing if you wish a US passport be issued to you at this time. It will show that you are a US citizen. And, of course, it goes on to say, thirty days.
[00:47:15] Unknown:
So Okay. This is the response. Oh, they only gave him thirty days. Well, they gave you ninety. They gave Josh ninety. So he's the head of Larry's guy. Go ahead, Larry.
[00:47:26] Unknown:
No. The yeah. No. This one said ninety days too.
[00:47:30] Unknown:
Oh, it did? Okay.
[00:47:32] Unknown:
Yeah. So I addressed this to Marco Rubio, and then this this bluff letter and by the way, I'm calling this the new and improved bluff letter because I guess they moved away from the Kelly Robertson bluff letters. But, this bluff letter came from Sterling, Virginia, and so we decided to address Marco Rubio and then cc the Sterling, Virginia agency. K. Good idea. So here it goes. Dear mister Rubio, I am in receipt of an unsigned response dated, 11/12/2024, copy enclosed, from an anonymous passport agent who is either ignorantly or intentionally refusing to recognize my political citizenship status, which is known in the organic statutes at large as a national and whose definition is codified at eight United States code 11 o one a 21.
The term national means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state. Please know that I am no longer subject to the jurisdiction of The United States, otherwise known as the District of Columbia. The fourteenth amendment contains a two pronged legal presumption, which includes all persons born or naturalized, plus the phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Please note, it does not say are subject but and subject. This implies and discreetly identifies that there exists a group of persons who were born or naturalized and, and I put this in brackets, not subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
One subjection must be a voluntary decision and action. Otherwise, it is tyranny. This is why according to the law of nations, I get to decide my political status. This I did. I volunteered out of the US federal feudal system and by doing so, I am no longer a federal citizen but rather a state citizen known as a national. This occurred when I mailed my affidavit of citizenship evidence to The US Secretary Of State and I declared my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. It is a fact I am a private individual under natural law and the common law. Since your pass for agent refused to recognize my political status as a national, this agent is not only refusing to issue a passport card and book, but also not following the code of federal regulations.
Please reference CFR title 22 at subpart a general 1.2, passport issued to nationals only. That's what it says. This would be me and what my political citizenship status currently is. Notice the code goes on to also include that, quote, a passport may be issued only to a US national, end quote. This would be what I used to be in terms of my former political status. Please be advised that a US national includes two different political statuses. These are identified by referencing the, quote, US national, end quote, definition at CFR title 22 paragraph 51.1 definitions. And here's what it says.
US citizen means a person who acquired US citizenship at birth or upon naturalization as provided by law and who has not subsequently lost such citizenship. US national means a US citizen or a US noncitizen national. I underlined that part. US noncitizen national means a person on whom US nationality but not US citizenship has been conferred at birth under eight United States code 14 o eight or under other law or treaty and who has not subsequently lost such noncitizen nationality. By way of further explanation, a noncitizen national is an American Samoan.
Now this last paragraph, it's which is short, you can tailor this to your situation, but this was applicable to this student situation. Lastly, please find enclosed another copy of my affidavit of citizenship status along with delivery confirmation, which is already on file with your predecessor, Antony Blinken. Such affidavit was unrebudded within the lawful time frame and now stands as truth, fact, and law. The same affidavit was submitted with my DS 82 application on 10/31/2024. Not only did I pay for both a card and a book, but I also paid for expedited service. However, Department of State's agent failed to provide both.
Please instruct your agent within thirty days to issue my updated passport card and book properly reflecting and identifying my correct political status and credentials as a national and not a citizen of The United States in all databases connected with said card and book. Regards. And within, like, three weeks, the student got his passport card.
[00:52:53] Unknown:
Larry, you may go to the, head of the letter writing class.
[00:53:00] Unknown:
Well, thank you. I try to keep, letters to one page like a response because I've learned from my mentor, less is more. And, also, you wanna educate them, and I've I've, integrated what you've always taught us to use their own words against them.
[00:53:18] Unknown:
Yep. Well, you did a good job. I don't know if if it was me. I don't know if I'd have put all that CFR stuff in there. It didn't hurt, of course. It just, specifies it a little bit more. So I congratulate you on your research and, your ability to write that nice letter in response. They'd see they just don't have any ground to stand on. When it gets right down to it, even now we found out today, even the employees inside the passport office understand what's going on here. Maybe it got to the point where around the water cooler to go, man, I'm getting a lot of these affidavits to say these people have god given rights and stuff. Are you getting them too? And they start a conversation and, no telling where that goes.
But, somebody's becoming aware of it, and that is, a really good feedback, Christie. So I appreciate it greatly. With Larry's letter and your own information and understanding, you shouldn't have any problems drafting something to send back to these folks for mister Josh so he can get his, his official, quote, unquote, freedom documents. Okay?
[00:54:28] Unknown:
Yep. Absolutely. Roger, I had a a traffic incident story to tell if, if there's time. Pretty exciting
[00:54:38] Unknown:
to We got, we got beaucoupes of time a little over an hour. So, you can get it in within that time frame, I'm assuming.
[00:54:47] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It won't it won't take very long.
[00:54:50] Unknown:
Okay. Well, hold on then because should we have her start doing it now, Paul, and get possibly interrupted by the top of the hour or what? Because I think we have to do our formalities
[00:55:03] Unknown:
today. Do we not? We will definitely be interrupted within two minutes. So, we can make small changes.
[00:55:11] Unknown:
Alright. You want Christie to titillate the audience that doesn't, join us live? And so we can have her delay out the first part and then tell the first part after the top, you know, like they do on big time broadcasting. Teaser, you know, teaser. Yeah. Okay. Well, Christie, I want you to lay out the first part of it. And when you hear the whistler, if you could, just stop and let Paul, do the formalities, and we'll pick you up on the back other side. Okay? Does that sound good?
[00:55:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Sounds good. Yeah. I'll just kinda tell you the the front part of the story. So last year, I bought, I bought, an Audi car. And, the way that it all worked out was pretty pretty crazy because in Washington so this was August thirtieth of last year. So in Washington, if somebody owes money on it, you have to go in with them. And, basically, they switched the title from them to me. And so it was it was a paid for car. I paid cash for it. And I, so I went to their DMV, and I said, well, I'm not registering it here. I said, I live in Montana. So they printed me a title of legal ownership in my name. It's got a Washington title.
Yeah. And so, anyway, so I'm the legal owner. Now hold on. Was it a great opportunity.
[00:56:28] Unknown:
Did let me interrupt you. I'm sorry, Christy. Did it say certificate of title, or was it a title? Yes.
[00:56:36] Unknown:
It's the certificate. It's with DMV issued. I should get my my wording right. But so a certificate of title in my name not registered to me. And so I thought, well, this is a great opportunity to not put plates on a car and exercise my my right to travel. Yeah. Yes. I did was, yep. So I own a coding business, and I do a lot of graphics and stuff. And so I just printed out, a real nice looks like a dealer plate. It says Audi. It's got the four rings. It's black lettering on or white red lettering on a black plate. Looks very dealerish.
And so I've been traveling since August 30 and not been pulled over until about two Sundays ago. I was driving through a little small town up here, and, I I passed the sheriff's department guy going the opposite direction. And so I made a left hand turn, and I'm cruising along. And next thing you know, this guy's on my rear bumper. And I thought, well, here we go. I'm getting pulled over. So, I just before he even hit his lights, I'm like, well, I'm just gonna turn off on the side road. And so I I always run dash cams. I have all of this on recording. Lots of people listen to it already. And so I flicked my phone on just as a backup recording, and so become pulling up behind me, lights on.
And I rolled down my window, and I was like, hey. How are you today? And he's like, hey. You realize you don't have plates on this thing? And I was like, hey. You're right. You know, just agreeing with him and, you know, being cordial. And and he's like, well, why not? And I said, well, I don't need them.
[00:58:16] Unknown:
Alright. Now we're gonna hold it hold it right there. Okay. That's fine because I don't need them. Paul, do your deal, and we'll pick that up. And if you're listening on on the stick and you're not with us, then you're gonna miss the back part of the story. You can look in the archives or dart over there with us real quick. Go ahead, Paul.
[00:58:34] Unknown:
Okay. Go to the matrixstocks.com, the matrix stocks Com, and click on the eurofolkradio.com link or the global voice radio link. And then you will be able to follow us into the second hour and get, as they say, the rest of the story. Thank you for joining us on a six point nine w b o u f m Chicago.
[00:58:59] Unknown:
So is your last name Beaner or Harvey? Okay. Now we got Christie in the middle of this story, and, she gets pulled over. And please continue, Christie.
[00:59:09] Unknown:
Okay. So, yeah, basically telling me I I don't need them. And so he goes, well, let me see your papers. And here I'm thinking, you know, Germany. Let me see your papers Nazi Germany. So I said, well, what what papers would you like to see? And he goes, well, I need I need your ID. I need your driver's license. I need a temporary tag. I need your insurance. And I said and by then, I had already had my passport out of my hand, my passport card. And I said, well, I tell you what. I said, this is all I'm giving you. I said, you you can call it in. I said, you can call it in to the state department, and they're gonna tell you to kick me loose. And I said, don't delay this traffic stop any longer than necessary.
And he's like, oh, one of them sovereign citizens. And I said, nope. I said, nope. I said, I've got immunity, and you can call it in. And so he he called it in, and I could only hear one side of the his conversation because the other side was in his ear. And so he was basically, you know, like, well, do you have a driver's license? I said, well, I have one. I'm not gonna give it to you. And he's like, you got insurance on this thing? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, well, you know, these these cars get stolen a lot and, you know, more often than I'd like to admit. And they try to play it up like this. You know? I don't know if it's a stolen car thing, and I'm kinda like, yeah. Whatever.
And so so he calls it in, and, he immediately shifts gears to where this is a courtesy stop. You know? We just wanted to make sure that there was no stolen cars. And and, and so I was like, well, what did they what did they tell you? And, he goes, oh, well, they just said that you don't have any warrants and that, that we we can't keep you. And so this whole this whole stop was less than five minutes. And he, he kicked me loose. He said he said you should get some tags, and you won't get held up on a nice Sunday Sunday like this. And
[01:01:13] Unknown:
and, yeah, I was just kinda like, oh, oh, okay. Thanks. And and I went You could've told him you could've told him. That would be true. But if so, I'd miss a wonderful opportunity to educate, law law officials like yourself.
[01:01:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well and it's it's kinda crazy because, a friend of mine was driving around while on his paper temp tag, and it it expired. Well, he got pulled over, and they wrote him a hundred and $50 ticket. And he provided license registration insurance and, you know, everything. And I told the guy, nope. I'm not giving you any of that. And he asked me why I gave him the passport card when I had a driver's license. And I said, well, that's what I'm supposed to do if I get harassed by law enforcement. You guys can call the state department and verify my status. And, so, he never did. He never ran a VIN number. So as far as he's concerned, he doesn't know if that car was stolen or not. But that's what he shifted it into was, oh, this is just a courtesy stop. You know, just we just wanna make sure this car wasn't stolen. And and, it was interesting because I've I've been
[01:02:23] Unknown:
I've been interested in a lot of law enforcement before. Right. I'm tired of it. Because we never know on these traffic situations how they're gonna turn out. I mean, it could be that very same scenario in another state, another county in the country, and they would've, you know, whooped up, opened a can of whoop ass on you. So you you just never know. And that's my frustration with the traffic issue, but that's a wonderful story, and it's got a nice happy ending. And, you were very nice. He was nice. The conversation, was very brief, and he said, okay. They gave you an excuse and let you go.
So good on you, Christy.
[01:03:06] Unknown:
Good on you. Yeah. I didn't buy anything besides the passport card, and I demanded that, you know, if there's an issue, you call the state department. And, but I think that he was a little taken aback by all of that. He'd probably never been challenged in that way.
[01:03:23] Unknown:
Mhmm. And then, of course, they tried to bring out the old straw man bait of sovereign citizen. Oh, you're one of those. No. No. No. No. I don't even know what those are. That's an oxymoron. I I'm a national, and that says it right here. And it's my choice not there, so I took the choice, and here we are. So, good good on you. And I hope everybody else, if you happen to get in one of these circumstances on the side of the road, have a pleasant experience such as Christie did. Now you have we haven't told the audience about your other thing that you're gonna wait and tell us about. So between that, which is against the big bad ATF, by the way, and now the stop on the side of the road and everything else you've been through, you feel pretty empowered, don't you, Christy?
[01:04:11] Unknown:
Oh, absolutely. You know, when when the feds are backing off and basically running from me at this point because of their wrongdoing Yeah. It's I mean, I I I feel pretty empowered, like you say. You know? I feel feel kinda badass, you know, and the ATF is on the run. They don't wanna talk to me. They they hang up on me. They direct me to Yeah. Some other you know, it it's funny. So Yep. So, yeah, we're working on that. And, like I said, that they I filed all my paperwork. Their response they had it's crazy because I had twenty days to respond to them, and then they have a hundred and twenty days to respond back, which puts us early July. So about about a month from now, we'll have an answer. And, and this is just regarding my property that they that they came in and took. But, the the prosecuting attorney told they they they the prosecuting attorney herself said that I was supposed to get that property back while the ATF did wrong, and they went ahead and forfeited
[01:05:16] Unknown:
the the property. We don't Well, we had the people don't know the whole story yet, so she's gonna fill you in in about a month when this thing Hey, Chris. Comes up. And, yeah. Hey, Bob.
[01:05:31] Unknown:
Yes. Kudos. Lovely story. Love to hear it. You handled it very well. My my response would have been when he asked why didn't you give me a driver's license. Well, if I were involved in a commercial activity, I would be required, and I would do so.
[01:05:47] Unknown:
But I'm not. Good answer. Thank you. Good answer, Bob. Very good. But you did very you did very well. I'm not I'm not criticizing you. Right. No. That's a great addition so that somebody listening could use that in the future. Go ahead, Christy. Respond to Bob, please.
[01:06:04] Unknown:
Yeah. When you're on the spot like that, like, I wanted this thing to be as a brief into the point instead of getting, you know, awful of commercial and stuff. You know, I just wanna I understand. Kidding. You know, you're getting my passport card, and that's it. You know? So, but, yeah, it's funny because after the fact, you say everything runs through your brain, and you're like, oh, man. I could've said that. I could you know? Yep. And so I guess, I I still continue to travel with those same, you know, dealer ish looking plates. And, I'm sure sure I'll get pulled over again, but it's just a good a good opportunity for us, I guess, like, revise or perfect my response to these guys. So
[01:06:52] Unknown:
Christy, what is your response? Was perfectly adequate.
[01:06:57] Unknown:
It does. It was state patrol? I've got Or was it the, a guy from that little town?
[01:07:03] Unknown:
It was a sheriff deputy. Oh, and you know what's interesting because I just wanted it on the video. I said, what department are you with? And he's like, sheriff deputy and his name and stuff. And so he, so I want that on the recording. But and I said I said, well, your office has been notified of my status. So he's probably a little bit confused by, like, wow. You know, that they've been notified. And so I told him, I was like, oh, you're with the sheriff department? Well, you guys have been notified of my status.
And, so, yeah, it's it's it's interesting to get all this stuff on recording. So I went back and listened to it, and and it it was under five minutes of a of a traffic stop. That's fantastic. And I hope provide me some insight.
[01:07:53] Unknown:
Well, good on you. And I hope that the story that you've related to us today, that some of the newer people who still have that fear aspect in their lives, and we understand that it's not a criticism, that maybe this helps dispel it a little bit. So the Christy was cool, calm, and collected. And, you know, the old saying, be like a duck. Have you ever heard that, Christie? Cool cool, calm, and collected on top and paddle paddle like hell underneath. And, you've been doing you've been doing a lot of paddling. You've been doing some studying. You've confronted several different groups of authorities on this, and it sounds like to me you've come out pretty clean on every one of them. So congratulations, and thank you for letting the follow
[01:08:42] Unknown:
your when I tell folks to go ahead. Your teaching to it, it's because of my experience dealing with feds and locals that, you know, have just they they just back off. And when Yeah. When you've done everything right, that's the real deal.
[01:08:58] Unknown:
Mhmm. So, here's something for mister l b Bork, who thinks my stuff is a lot of junk and it doesn't work. Here's another example of it works. In every works really applied, mister Bork. I'm sure you're not listening. You're probably shipping out your hundred dollar books. So, yes, sir, Paul.
[01:09:21] Unknown:
Anybody out there that's whining about success stories or the lack thereof? Here's one for you.
[01:09:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You know, we had this guy. It's interesting. Years ago, he was an actor. I don't even remember his name. You weren't around yet, Paul. And he came on one day. Nice guy. It was during the COVID stuff. And he goes, well, where are your where are your victory stories? Well, nobody had ever asked me that before. And so you think about it, and I said, well, we we we don't have any because everybody does what you want them to do. Then we're not having to go in and beat people up in this, that, and the other. And, so, that was just real interesting. Here's another, here here is a victory story that you can hear firsthand, but that one threw me for a loop a while back. It's like waving checks around at an MLM meeting. You know?
We just don't do that. We've never had any problems with anybody pretty much to that point. So I said, well, there is no victory stories because everybody they do what you want them to do. I guess that's a victory in itself, isn't it?
[01:10:35] Unknown:
Okay. And I think there's probably a lot of it. You know, people just don't call in, share them. Like, I'm I'm I'm an everyday listener. I listen to the archives and, you know, I've listened to a lot of, you know, everybody. And I'm like, you know, some sooner or later, I've gotta start sharing some of the stuff and especially with my friend Josh dealing with the passport people, not dealing with them, but, you know, having them say that, that we're not under the United States code and and that kind of stuff. It's huge to be fair. Like, that's huge testimony.
[01:11:09] Unknown:
That's huge. It's very, very it looms large. Yes, Paul?
[01:11:14] Unknown:
I I think that the lack of victory stories, I think it has to do with we're a very close knit community. We not only, are on the same show every day, but there's the after show and then there's other places where people congregate. Everybody pretty much knows everybody. So if any one of us, like, examples, Joe Lusticka, Mike Nail, Sherry, I mean, everybody circled the wagons around those cases, and everybody knew what was going on with them. And if there was anybody that was really in trouble, somebody would know about it. It's not like, oh, well, you just haven't heard about it because they're still busting rocks at Leavenworth.
[01:12:04] Unknown:
No. No. Take your time. Would have known and alerted Roger. Someone. I I I promise you, if something happens to somebody on this situation, I'm the first one they call. Right? Roger, Roger, Roger. I got a letter. I got a letter. I got this. I got that. Believe me. I'm the first one they call, and I've never had one of those calls in fourteen years. It wasn't something like this bluff letter that people didn't understand or whatever. But we've just never they they don't there's no blowback. There's not one instance. It's not that we haven't heard of it. If it happened, believe me, I'm the first one they call. Exactly. Roger. Year, six days a week. It's open.
We never get those calls. Go ahead. Whoever's talking.
[01:12:53] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Bob. As a contrast, I wouldn't call it a success, but it wasn't entirely a failure. Older listeners have heard this story, but my oldest daughter, this was probably an o two or 02/22 or so in there. It was after the pandemic because we had gone to see if True News was holding an evening service over Oh, yeah. Bureau, and they weren't. But we sat there reconfiguring our thinking as to what we were going to do if we were gonna go, you know, go eat or what. And we sat there for a while just talking. And slowly, a police not police. They're out of the city limits. They sheriff's cruiser rolls up.
And then about ten minutes later, another one comes up in a pickup, and come up and wanna, you know, see what's going on. And we told him what we were doing and what was going on. And, of course, he wants to see ID and license and all that. Well, simple fact is my daughter can't withhold her license. She doesn't even have one and never had one. So she hands him her passport card, and he's just confused. And I encouraged them to check it out. One was the supervisor, and he was obviously taking the lead, and, they couldn't read it. It didn't do anything for or against her. They couldn't read it. They couldn't get any info off of it that was valid through whatever system they were using.
So they said, well, we really don't know what to do here, but, sir, we'd appreciate it if you would take the wheel and and, you know, vacate the premises because, you know, there's nothing going on here. And we were alerted by the securities cameras that, you know, somebody was loitering here, and I said, that's fine. And so we left, and it was somewhat anticlimactic. But, you know, like I said, I wouldn't really consider it a success story. They just didn't know what to do.
[01:14:58] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:14:59] Unknown:
So, anyway
[01:15:01] Unknown:
And the lesson for the audience is some of these departments are not tied into the system where they can read the passport. For it. It's a certain system. Some are evidently, some aren't. We don't know all the intricacies of it, but that seems to be what happened here that that sheriff's department was not tied into. Do they call it the pass system or something,
[01:15:23] Unknown:
seems like? That's what I recall. Yes. Yeah. We had a good conversation for, like, ten or fifteen minutes, you know, and I was showing them some things that I you know, things I had saved on my phone. I said, you know, take a look at this. And they were they were attentive. They weren't enthusiastic, but they weren't dismissive. So I figured, well, you know, we'll we'll use the time we got and at least plant some seeds. So Yep.
[01:15:51] Unknown:
Educate you as best we can and see if, any of them sprout. Good work, Bob, as always. Bob, old time listener for almost since we started day, Roger. Yes, Samuel?
[01:16:06] Unknown:
Hey. Hey, Bob. Did you know during that period of time, Rick was getting a lot of death threats and somebody was actually breaking, overriding their security, getting inside the building and making sure that they knew somebody was there. So you may have been on pretty high alert ground there with the sheriff's department or something. Yeah. That probably is why that happened, Bob.
[01:16:32] Unknown:
How's Rick doing? I don't listen to him on a regular basis, Samuel. I know you do. How are they doing over there at, Rick Wiles? What's
[01:16:43] Unknown:
the It's called True News, but it's it's done. He's done with news. He's not doing it anymore after twenty six years. And he's going completely to adult bible studies, which he does every day. And he's also, gonna be offering child. The I see says this will be the first ministry
[01:17:04] Unknown:
who's ever did an outreach child bible study program, and he's gonna be doing that soon as well. That's smart. That's smart. Counteract them. That's where they aim right at the children. So good for Rick, and, I I wish him a lot of success with that. Okay. Anybody else got something to offer here, a comment or question? There's, there's Bory, I believe. Hey, Bory. Yes?
[01:17:31] Unknown:
Hey. Good morning, Royer. Yes. Morning, Bori. You say that we don't have success stories, but we do. We all of us are successful.
[01:17:39] Unknown:
Well, I Everything I do understand this. Your paperwork
[01:17:42] Unknown:
is successful.
[01:17:43] Unknown:
You know? Well, I know that. But if somebody asked me well, you don't have to because I understand that. But if somebody's questioning us saying, where are your success stories? They're expecting to see, well, I went into court and this judge bent over for me or whatever that kind of thing is. And the problem is what I'm trying to do is all of you know is keep you out of a courtroom setting because you don't belong in there for the most part. Maybe occasionally something happens that you do wrong, but for the most part, you don't belong in there, and there's no reason. So that's what he was looking for, Boris. But you're right. All of us are success stories, but, I can't put him in I I couldn't say, alright. We'll call Bori over there on the East Coast. He'll he'll give you one.
So, anyway, you're right, Bori. We're all success stories, but it's not overt. You know, it's not overt. We haven't had to overcome anything. Your your success story is Bory got him out of the tax system, and he got to go back to Puerto Rico and visit his family for the first time ever on a real vacation. Those are the kind of things that he's looking for. Who was, who was saying something there?
[01:18:55] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yes. This is Aloysius. Aloysius.
[01:19:00] Unknown:
Boy, I think we've spoken
[01:19:03] Unknown:
we haven't spoken before, have we? I've got you, but I'm saying we haven't spoken. Okay. Aloysius. Well, hell, that's a heck of a name they hung on you. It's a nice one. Different. How you doing? How'd you find us? And what part of the country are you in, please?
[01:19:19] Unknown:
So I'm in Minnesota, and I'm new. Oh,
[01:19:22] Unknown:
okay. Good. We're glad to have you, Aloysius.
[01:19:26] Unknown:
So I have a little bit of a story here.
[01:19:29] Unknown:
Okay. Good. Let's hear it.
[01:19:33] Unknown:
Okay. So, I well, I became a national. I've been listening to your for a view for about, oh, probably four or five months now. And, I became a national here probably four months ago. And, I was always kind of aware of what's going on, but so I I, did the file the affidavit with the secretary of state, got the green card, file it with the secretary of state in the state of Minnesota, and, the IRS got my cards back. Haven't heard no rebuttal. But, on Sunday, I was coming home. I was coming back from a cabin up in Northern Minnesota, and, I was, I was coming out to a state highway, and I decided to pass a vehicle before I got there so I didn't have to follow him. So I speeded up and went around the vehicle and made a legal pass and come up to the stop sign and stop.
Looked to my right, I seen a highway bull, and, I just seen that he was there and, no dig. So I took a left and was going down the highway state highway. And, about 10 miles down the road, I, I see a highway bull coming at me. So I, I just acknowledge he's there, and I look. Well, he turned around, and he has two vehicles behind me. So one of the vehicles turned off, so I kept going. He passed that one. Now he's behind me. I know I'm getting pulled over. So I, lights go on. I pull over. I rolled out my window, and, the officer comes up to me and he goes, he goes, you know why I'm stopping you? And I says, I don't have a clue.
He goes, well, you were called in for, going through a stop sign and driving down the wrong side of the road. I looked at him and said, that's not the case. That never happened. He goes I says, he goes, well, he says, do you have a driver's license? And I and I still carry a driver's license at this point. I am working on getting my cars out and and gonna go without a license and start driving without registration and stuff, but I'm just not there yet. So I had a license, and I I handled my license. And I said, so I don't know that you have a right to pull me over. Yeah. I think you're violating me. And he goes, well, he goes, well, if I get a number if I get a call and I get a phone number, he goes, I can legally pull you over.
And I said, well, I don't know that that's right. But he goes, well, he goes, why are your eyes so glossy? And I says, my eyes are always glossy and red. He goes, have you been drinking? Then I says, well, I had one beer earlier today. Oh, he goes, do you have proof of insurance? I says, no. But I have insurance on the vehicle. He goes, well, who you insured through? So I told him he goes, he goes, you mind stepping out? I wanna do a sobriety test. I says, I'm not getting out of my vehicle. He goes, well, he goes, where are you going? And I says, well, I'm heading towards towards home.
He goes, he goes, well, let me let me, let me I'm gonna have your license. I'll be right back. So he walked back to the squad car. He wasn't in there two minutes. He turns around and walks back, and he says and I don't know I don't know what my license did or what, and I'm that's what I'm asking to see if anything could've showed up here. He says, he says, I'm gonna consider this traffic stop complete. He goes, you go on and have a good day. And I I just kinda said, well, I didn't appreciate you a waste of my time, you know, because I don't think you had a a a right to be pulling me over. And then he, he goes, well, you just have a good day.
So I pulled out on the road, and I went down the road. He followed me for a few miles. Alright. Alois is hold on. Hold on. Because we you dropped out for a minute.
[01:23:32] Unknown:
You you got to the point where he he said, where are you going? And I'm going to and I think you clipped out. Can you pick it up there and tell us the story again?
[01:23:43] Unknown:
Okay. So so after he came back okay. Was that that was before he went and ran ran my license? Okay. So Yeah. He went so he took my license and went back to the car, and he wasn't back there. I know it couldn't have been two minutes. And he turns around, and he starts walking right back up to my car. And he and he and he hands me my license and says, I'm gonna call this traffic stop complete. And I just I said, I don't really, you know, you appreciate your rest I mean, pulling me over and wasting my time when you didn't have a, you know, a legit reason to pull me over. And he and he kind of backpedaled and said why he had kinda pulled me over, but he says, you just go and have a good day. So then I I I took off my car and I drove down the road, and he followed for me for a few miles, and then he turned off. I I'm just wondering if if when he ran my license, if he's seen something that that said that I was a national or something because it was because he had me. I mean, he know I admitted to drinking, which I was not drunk. I've only had a couple beers the whole day.
I I I did not have proof of insurance. I denied his sobriety test. He went back to his car, ran my license, and within two minutes came back and said, I'm calling to stop complete. Have a good day. Did I lose you?
[01:25:08] Unknown:
I don't think he wanted to do the paperwork.
[01:25:10] Unknown:
Do do I got you, Roger?
[01:25:13] Unknown:
Let me see if Roger's still there. Nope. Roger dropped off a Zoom. Might might be a problem with, his connection, and we'll see if he, we'll see if he comes back. I, it's really interesting, but I was spending a little bit of time last night looking at, like, what is it? Harrison Law or whatever. Some, some YouTube videos. And, what the skinny was, as far as he said, was that, roadside sobriety tests are designed for you to fail them even if, you are absolutely stone cold sober. Sixty five percent of the people will fail them anyway. They have to have in order to escalate from a reasonable suspicion, they have to have, six things that they had noticed.
Word speech, glassy eyes, eyes starting back and forth, balance problem, whatever. They have to have six things, six qualifiers before they can even ask you to do a roadside sobriety test or, blow into their little breathalyzer. So, what was suggested on that video, and I suggest people go look for it. Just search YouTube for how to handle cops at a DUI, or at a DWI checkpoint. They suggest that you refuse any testing or answering any questions without an attorney present. And number two, if they insist on a blood test, you go with them. They will arrest you.
They will impound your car, but they will do the the, blood test. But even that, there are, like, six things that can disqualify a blood test. So you always, request a private, an independent blood screen. And, you know, you're gonna wind up going to court, but if you dot all your i's and cross all your t's, you will win. And, you know, it'll take about a year. It'll take about a year of your life, but you won't lose your license and your insurance rates won't go up and all this happy stuff. Now if you do it the way they do it, the odds are stacked against you. Doing the roadside sobriety test, and failing it, they are building a case on you where you will actually lose your license instead of a thirty, sixty, or ninety days suspension for refusal.
You will actually lose your license altogether, and you might wind up with heavy fines, court fees, and jail time. So you really, really gotta be careful how much information you give a cop on the side of a road.
[01:28:39] Unknown:
He's not your friend. But I but I I I was definitely not under the influence. There was no question. Right. Well I only had I only had two beers in the past two and a half hours.
[01:28:53] Unknown:
But yeah. Right. But there are all there are all kinds of other things, particularly in states where where recreational weed is legalized. Okay? There are all kinds of other reasons where even you you can blow a zero point zero zero, and they can still arrest you for driving under the influence. They just didn't find what you were under the influence of. And how they make their case is the six key things that they notice and and the breath test and a blood test. Blood test takes six to nine months to come back. It's not a not a convenient, easy, quick thing.
[01:29:33] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:29:34] Unknown:
So, definitely go to YouTube.
[01:29:38] Unknown:
I was wondering, though, if he if he probably if he's seen something that I'm a national when he ran my license and knew that I I was and just allowed to let me go. I don't know if that was it or not. That was my kind of my question. Question is, did you notice the DMV? So what do you mean by that? When you became a national,
[01:30:00] Unknown:
when you filed your national affidavit and you put your local agencies DMV. You did or didn't?
[01:30:09] Unknown:
No. No. But I did. I did. Secretary of State Minnesota, Keith Ellison.
[01:30:16] Unknown:
Okay. If you didn't notice the DMV, I mean, the Department of Motor Vehicles, it's a private entity. It's a government services corporation, and they are all organized under the AAMVA, which is, the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. It's a a m v a Org. They are far and away separate from anything that has to do with the state. They are just a revenue vehicle. They are just Okay. They're just they're they're a moneymaker. That's how they fund the state. So but I would Okay. I would suggest anybody go to YouTube and look at all of these lawyers that are doing, this is how you answer questions if a cop is standing outside your door.
This is when or when you don't answer questions. When do you, exercise your right to remain silent? How do you do it? When do you, or don't you submit to roadside sobriety test? Because like you said, sixty five percent of them, are failed by people that have had absolutely zero to drink. And that and we're also getting reports that, electromagnetic pollution messes with the, messes with, person's balance. So if you're anywhere near a cell phone tower or anything like that and the squad cars, they are just, they are radio equipped to beat the band, that your balance is going to be compromised, no matter what you do.
So it's just, you gotta research. You gotta, you you gotta put as many yeah.
[01:32:11] Unknown:
Okay. Well, this is Larry. I'd just like to encourage the student about a couple of things. Actually, all students. If you're ever stopped by an officer, make sure their body cam is on by asking them. Overcheck. Ask them for their name and badge number, and then crack your window down only a few inches. You're only required in all states to crack your window down a little bit and keep your other windows up because, if you put another window down, that creates a crosswind, and then, of course, they're gonna claim, oh, I smell marijuana or whatever. So just cracking one window prevents that. And then you always ask the question, am I being detained? Am I free to go? And if he says no, you know, then you gotta deal with it, and try to try and just keep asking those questions. And do not ever answer questions. Have you been drinking?
Do I need you could ask him, am I legally and lawfully required to answer that question? Of course, they're gonna say no, or you could just not answer it at all. And then keep your hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. And if you have to reach for some, you let the officer know what you're doing. Right. So those are some suggestions I would I would incorporate. Hey, Larry. Yep.
[01:33:32] Unknown:
Larry, that was one thing that he said in the video. He can the cop can skip all of the other, contributing evidence, before a roadside sobriety test by your admission of drinking anything at all. Doesn't matters. You you could say I had a beer yesterday. Because you admitted to consuming alcohol anytime within the last twenty four hours, the cop is then justified to remove you from the car and submit you to roadside sobriety test or a blood draw. So you never ever ever admit you asked them, like you said, am I legally obligated to I am I legally and lawfully obligated to answer that question?
And when the cop says no Mhmm. They say then, I exercise my right to remain silent and will not be answering any questions without an attorney present. That's it. Mhmm. This is this is, this is not a game, folks. You know, they're funding the entire state with your answers on the side of the road, And you ain't gonna you ain't gonna get a fair shake. That's for sure.
[01:34:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I I definitely wouldn't have answered that question. Oh, absolutely. Or any other. But what you could have done, I think, of course, your explanation is ad hoc here. I don't know, but I would have pushed him big time on his reasons for pulling you over when he said it was there's a certain somebody or this or that. I would have tried to get all that information from him, and, hopefully, that's all recorded. Like Larry said, that Cam's on. He knows he's lying and committing perjury probably right there, so that's And that's probably why
[01:35:37] Unknown:
and that's probably why he backed off. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Alright. Well, thank you. I was just guy kinda curious what went on there. I just was wondering if that if he would had noticed that I was sovereign or not, but apparently not. That was not the case. So it had to do something. He didn't have probable cause to pull me over.
[01:35:56] Unknown:
Either that or he just didn't wanna mess with it. Maybe it was almost quitting time.
[01:36:01] Unknown:
I don't know. Did I did Paul, did I hear right when he said that the police said that somebody call him and with the telephone, and he had to check this out?
[01:36:11] Unknown:
No. He's he's steady.
[01:36:15] Unknown:
Yep. I would have asked him if you have a phone number. If if you have a report and somebody's telephone number, why don't you go on back to your car and call them and talk to them and figure out how far their head is up their butt? Because I've got dashcam footage to prove that they're that they're lying.
[01:36:32] Unknown:
They were lying through all his ears. Smoke was coming out of his mouth.
[01:36:37] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey, Paul. Police are allowed to lie.
[01:36:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I know that. But they fully expect you to tell the truth.
[01:36:47] Unknown:
They have a license to lie.
[01:36:49] Unknown:
And being honest with the cop will not get you any brownie points. Anything and everything you say can and will be used against you.
[01:37:03] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you guys for your time.
[01:37:05] Unknown:
You're welcome. Well, I don't I wonder where we're gonna go from here because Roger still hasn't been able to, rejoin us on on Zoom, and I'm yes.
[01:37:20] Unknown:
That that's probably a good question to ask them right off. Are you lawfully capable of asking me and telling me lies?
[01:37:33] Unknown:
Well, yeah. It is we call it engaging in disinformation for the during the course of an investigation. And then if you ask him maybe use their terms.
[01:37:44] Unknown:
Well, right. And then that's what does that mean? Does that mean that you could lie to me?
[01:37:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Just ask him. Are you able to disin to engage in disinformation for the purposes of, investigation? And if he says yes, then you then you ask him, am I lawfully required to assist you with that investigation? And it of course, he's gonna say no. And then you can say, well, in that being the case, thank you for your honesty. I exercise my right to remain silent and will not be answering any questions or providing any further documentation without an attorney present.
[01:38:30] Unknown:
Am I free to leave? I would ask him if, if he had a legal, lawful license.
[01:38:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, yeah, maybe. Could be.
[01:38:47] Unknown:
Hello?
[01:38:48] Unknown:
Okay. Where do we wanna go now?
[01:38:52] Unknown:
Hello?
[01:38:54] Unknown:
Hello? Come on. Let
[01:38:56] Unknown:
me What are you there? This is Jesse.
[01:39:00] Unknown:
Somebody else is talking.
[01:39:03] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[01:39:07] Unknown:
On just a second, Jesse. Who is that who is that out there?
[01:39:13] Unknown:
This is, Jeff from Pennsylvania, new caller.
[01:39:17] Unknown:
Okay. Hi, Jeff.
[01:39:21] Unknown:
Hi.
[01:39:22] Unknown:
I don't mean to take a short turn from the conversation. It's a very good one, by the way, but I understand Roger kinda dropped off. But I don't know if any of you guys can maybe answer this question. Pretty elementary. Pretty new to this. I've been following Roger for about two months now. I'm definitely versed in the common law, but as far as this repatriation process. I have a few questions, if you don't mind, a few minutes, you know, of everybody's time. It's in in regards to filling out the passport. May seem a little bit redundant or elementary or simple, but I just want to get everything sharpened to a tee. I'm going to proceed with that very soon.
And I just want to run down a few questions on the list here I wrote down. Now I've seen a lot of different approaches to this, and I know people that have done this with success. But it wasn't through Rogers method, you know, the simple one or two sentence, affidavit and cover letter. They with the first page they talk about whether or not to capitalize your name, lowercase your name. As far as mailing address, in care of or rural free delivery, check note all The U. S. Citizen questions, all rights reserved where you sign in the lower right hand corner of page one. Now these are questions. I just want to run it by you to see what you would do, your suggestions, and then country off to the right next to ZIP code, USA, if it says if outside of The United States and they specify USA.
Up above there in the gray area to the right, end number 09. What what's your thoughts on that, and what would you suggest and what have you done? Those of you who should, submitted this paperwork.
[01:41:11] Unknown:
And and what is this for? The passport application?
[01:41:15] Unknown:
This is a 11.
[01:41:18] Unknown:
Okay. The 11. Alright. That's too much. Alright. Who's that? Somebody wanna add something? You're you're you're roboting out. You've got a really, really bad, You you sound like a robot. We can't understand a word you're saying. Can you get into a better position or climb a tree or something? I cannot understand a word you're saying. Can you can you climb a tree or something like that?
[01:42:03] Unknown:
Climb a tree? That actually sounds pretty cool if there was a song.
[01:42:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We can understand a word you're saying. You're you're you're breaking up.
[01:42:19] Unknown:
Oh, international. Get your
[01:42:26] Unknown:
Who is this?
[01:42:32] Unknown:
That's somebody else. I'm still here. I'm just listening like you Yeah. Getting it real broken up.
[01:42:37] Unknown:
Yeah. That's Arliss.
[01:42:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I only heard two words out of all of that.
[01:42:45] Unknown:
Right. Arliss, we we can't understand a word you're saying. You're you're breaking up really, really bad. Get into a better place and, try to, do it again later. Alright? Okay. With the d s 11, the copper moonshine still says, check no to any questions regarding citizenship of your parents. Mhmm. The, Rogers' take on that is they take passport fraud very, very seriously. And, if any entity, if any agency is going to hold your feet to the fire for perjury and passport fraud, it would be the secretary of state. So, I would answer those questions truthfully to the best of your knowledge.
And, if you want to provide, supporting documentation, you can state, like, with a cover letter that, you answered each question on the application true truthfully and correctly to the best of your knowledge and recall recollection. That if that anything on that application that turns out to be incorrect, you ask for, guidance in correcting the error and proceeding. That way, if if your mom was a citizen, but your dad wasn't or whatever, it doesn't matter. Answer them truthfully and correctly. It's not an access to the system if you say, yes. My parents were, were citizens of The United States because your citizenship is by birth, where your feet landed.
Okay? And because it's the feudal system, if they were slaves, it's presumed that you were a slave, but that's still rebuttable. It's a rebuttable presumption. As far as, you know, any fancy dance that you wanna do with your name or or capitals or anything like that, none of that matters because none of those are are nexuses to the system. They're all patriot mythology. They've got patriots jumping through hoops to avoid, the gold fringe flag or to avoid the all caps name or, this, that, and the other thing. Alright? The only thing that matters the only thing that matters is the fact that you attach an affidavit stating that you are a national and not a citizen of The United States and that that affidavit is put in your permanent administrative file. It's the only thing that matters.
You can fill out the application in crayon as long as they can as long as they can read it. You know? And so don't get hung up on the don't get hung up on the little things, other nuances, because the important thing is that affidavit and that single sentence. Okay?
[01:46:11] Unknown:
Yep. Would you, or Rod, you, whoever students, would you recommend, you know, citing some Supreme Court rulings with to reinforce that a little bit in the cover letter? I wouldn't I wouldn't do that because according to the
[01:46:26] Unknown:
INA and by their own admission and, by their own statutory language that, the term resident is a rebuttable presumption and that, nationals owe permanent allegiance to a small estate. It's all in their paperwork. You don't have to try and educate them. You just you do it because you can. And if they send you a bluff letter saying, well, we don't think you can do this, then you hit them with the evidence. But as far as the original passport application, filing a 31 page affidavit just with a passport application, they're never gonna process that to put it on the back of the desk and wait until they're damn good and ready to do it. You know what I mean, Vern? Yep. I've seen
[01:47:14] Unknown:
repudiation, the affidavits and, like, I I did read it, but it's like I don't I think it'll exhaust them or it'll bore them before they have a chance
[01:47:23] Unknown:
to react to it.
[01:47:25] Unknown:
And and it's not like these guys are Einstein's. I don't think they'd be able to understand half the stuff that you send them. Don't bother. Paul
[01:47:34] Unknown:
Paul, can you put those authorities in the chat you just mentioned about the rebuttable presumption of a resident? You said three of them?
[01:47:44] Unknown:
That's all that's all stuff that's, like, according to the INA, you know, all The US citizens are are US nationals, but not all US nationals are US citizens. It also states that, noncitizen nationals are American Samoans and, Swains Island and Northern Mariana Islanders, and it states categorically that national with a small n, okay, owes permanent allegiance to as small as state. Says it right there. It's it's right in their own foreign affairs manual for Grand Ole. So I I don't think you'll have to point it out. And all that stuff is in the examples.
All the all those things are in the examples that will be thrown in the chat or, are up in the recents folder on docs.exposethematrix.com. I have uploaded everything that Larry sent me to the recents folder in docs.exposethematrix.com. Just, just, sort, by date in reverse order, and it'll put those two items right at the very top of the page. Easy peasy. So where else can we go?
[01:49:11] Unknown:
Also, Chris Christie wasn't able to put her document in the chat about a half hour ago. Perhaps you could. She sent she was gonna email it to you.
[01:49:20] Unknown:
You could just figure it out. Well, let me check my email and see if it actually made it. Nope. Don't see it. Did you send it to [email protected]? P g b I e n e r at g mail dot com.
[01:49:42] Unknown:
Hold on a second, Paul. Let me get that. I sent it there was a David that had requested it, so I emailed it to him. Okay. I'll get your email, and I'll send it. Okay. Go ahead.
[01:49:55] Unknown:
It's [email protected].
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Okay. I'll send that right now.
[01:50:12] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. And then I'll I'll drop it in the confirm when you I'll drop it in the chat.
[01:50:18] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Oh, no problem. Happy to do it. Yeah. Bring up, email on the other computer in a box. Wow. I certainly hope that, I certainly hope that whatever issue Roger's having that's keeping him out of Zoom, doesn't, continue because that would throw a monkey wrench into the Paul English live show if we can't get that straightened out. So where else can we go for the last eight minutes of the program? Come on.
[01:51:01] Unknown:
We gotta be Did anyone watch that, video for two hours, the premiere yesterday? That was really quite freaking awesome, and it really covers a lot that you cover here in a bigger picture. That was really pretty dang awesome.
[01:51:15] Unknown:
The the Lake Julie sent? Yeah. Yesterday. Right? And during the after show, I think it was, maybe. Right. I I didn't have an opportunity to watch it, but I did download it.
[01:51:27] Unknown:
But I have heard really really that. Yeah. I watched the whole two hours. Really had some powerful stuff. I liked it. Yeah.
[01:51:34] Unknown:
Cool. Thank you. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah. I have heard really, really good things about it. Julie, if you're with us, a lot of the anonymouses have gotten, muted, just, squelching.
[01:51:51] Unknown:
I'm an anonymous. Hi, Paul.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Alright. So you watched that. Can you, give people a heads up on on what that was about?
[01:52:05] Unknown:
Oh, it's about your digital concentration camp. And and and and, he's right. Who was that talking before? I'm sorry. I Scotty. Tuned in. Yeah. Scotty. It was, the thing about it that's good is it put it it, like, consolidates everything. Everything that we've been hearing, it puts all the pieces of the puzzle together. So I highly recommend everybody to watch that, documentary and to spread it far and wide. So it just talks about it it puts together everything from the food to the water to the, just to everything. And it just, like I said, consolidates the whole thing. So I think people will really, get an idea about their plan.
And it's little less than two hours long.
[01:53:03] Unknown:
And some of the wording was amazing. I'm gonna relisten to it and take notes and use some of that wording in some of my documents. You know, really just well because I'm not good with words. So, yeah, that was really great that you recommended that. But it killed my afternoon. I was shot after watching it.
[01:53:18] Unknown:
I was I was too, Scotty. I was absolutely but I already knew what to know, and we just have to have have faith over fear because we're all in this together. And the more we can get this out, I love the ending of it. Catherine Austin fits her words, I will not comply. That was her words at the end, and she said they'll either have to come and get me or God will come and get me. And Amman Javi's words, I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. It was it was so amazing.
[01:53:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Absolutely.
[01:53:56] Unknown:
People. Yep. To not comply. That's the goal of getting this viral. Get everybody out to say no, and, it's not gonna work.
[01:54:06] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Yes, Bruce.
[01:54:11] Unknown:
Can you put that back in the chat? I missed that. I cut my phone off accidentally, and I didn't get the
[01:54:21] Unknown:
For for, for for, Bruce, for for everybody that, I don't have a I'm driving, so I don't have a way to write it down for people who are not on Zoom or on FCC. It's it's you go to YouTube and you type in Oracle films, and it's called the agenda. And, it's it's your future, their your future, their plan, or something like that. I don't remember what the tagline is,
[01:54:52] Unknown:
but it's the agenda that even as we speak. Of the film. Yeah. I'm I'm dropping I'm dropping the link in the chat even as we speak. There we go.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
Sketch got it too, I think. Because I think something If I may. Phone. Is that true? Me too, and I was trying to put it in the chat, but I did put another video in the chat I spoke about the other day about national status. It's just part it's something I found on Facebook, and it's a series. I think anybody's learning this status stuff. I say that that info info in that video, I I'll label it, is on par with what Roger teaches with the in-depth. Some people are just great teachers. And, anyway, yeah, I think anyone studying the status stuff as you all do, will find usable information in those videos. So I'll I'll label I put that in there. You you put that in the chat?
Yeah. I just put it in the chat. It's a YouTube link. Okay. Alright. Thank you. One of a series that'll play. I listened to, like, five of them, and they're all equally powerful as the first one. So you give it a little heads up as I'd like to get some opinion of some Okay. With even higher knowledge. Hey. How are you? Okay.
[01:56:04] Unknown:
Is that talking about Palantir or what?
[01:56:08] Unknown:
No. Nothing to do with Palantir that I know of. I didn't really know what that was until I saw the links in the chat yesterday. I thought it was the actor from, that, Bronx Tale movie.
[01:56:19] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
Paul, for everybody who wants to know specific details about all the contractors and all the technology that's being built, get on, YouTube and and type in Whitney Webb, w h I t n e y space w e b b. She's got all the goods out on all of these people. Like, the lit like, like, the details.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Could you repeat that, please?
[01:56:55] Unknown:
Yes. It's Whitney, w, h as in hello, I, e, e as in elephant, y space w, e as in elephant, b as in boy, b as in boy, Whitney Webb. She's got two, books that I think are about to get banned on, Amazon that just came out, but she exposes a lot.
[01:57:21] Unknown:
Thank you. You can Okay. You can also check out Technocracy Rising or Technocracy.News. That guy's been out there for, you know, more than a decade exposing, you know, all of that stuff and, you know, naming players and and everything. I can't think of his name. It's the name of an actor, or similar to some actor. I can't think of his darn name. It's right on the tip of my tongue. It's not Mel Gibbs. It's not Mel Gibson, is it? No. No. No. No. It's, I'll think of it. But, you know, I I Brent sent me that link, Julie, that you put out there. And I watched or I listened to it last night. And I don't know, not too long into it. You know, there was, like, one or two commercials, you know, that I I can't really control because I'm on a little flip phone. But I let them play through, and it's it came back on. And then right after that, there was this this rap, this black dude rapping, and he used the n word about 50 times in this video. And it didn't it it didn't play as a commercial.
It played as though it was part of that that movie. Did anybody else get that?
[01:58:41] Unknown:
I I don't think so. I think that was an ad.
[01:58:44] Unknown:
Yeah. It was probably I I I text I'm I'm telling you, it came right the movie came right back on, and it was like, wow. Was that part of that movie? Because it was all about what, you know, he was rapping about what the movie was about. It was so weird. And I texted Brett. I said, did did you insert that or what? For me? He said, what did he he didn't know what I was talking about. You gotta check it out. I said to check that link that that Julie's that you sent me because it was in it. Anyway, I yield. You you know what? May maybe it wasn't it. I I don't recall. I have to go back and rewatch it and take notes.
[01:59:24] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we're at the end of the program for today. We lost Roger about thirty five minutes ago. I wanna thank everybody for, stepping up and helping me actually, fill in the, bedspots. So this is all about your freedom, and this is all about you. Thank you everyone so much for being with us today. That does it for Euro Folk Radio. I'm gonna let the music play us out, and then, we'll be continuing on Global Voice Network. Ciao.
[02:00:07] Unknown:
Okay, guys. We're off with, because when you watched it live, it just played right through. You couldn't pause it either to write stuff down.
[02:00:16] Unknown:
Thanks, Paul. And Whitney Webb's website is unlimitedhangout.com in the chat. Yep.
[02:00:23] Unknown:
Yep. And that's hangoutswithansasinSam. Hey, Paul. Did you get my email and my text messages about the mishap with the, interview that Roger was supposed to do? And I think it's I think this is Yes. I did. Spam items. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yes. I did. Roger looked. Roger didn't see it.
[02:00:47] Unknown:
He had only gotten one email from him, and that was, talking about, like, Sunday or or whatever or something like that. So, they're still working on setting it up for next week. And with any luck, if I can, raise Roger, we'll have him set up for being on the Paul English live show for the second and third hour. So I'm gonna have to, duck out of here and let, let you guys take over. The stream is still running on Global Voice, but, I'm gonna duck out of here and let, let you guys take it while I track down Raj and see if I can figure out what happened.
[02:01:40] Unknown:
That'll be four to 6PM eastern time, Paul? Yes. It will. It'll be four to six eastern. Because I've been out of touch with this for a while. I I'm glad that I'm able to come back and have some time to I just was too overwhelmed. I I really wasn't participating in any shows too too many.
[02:01:57] Unknown:
Mhmm. Anyway Well, during even Jack is with us. Jack, do you have any way to, ring Roger's phone locally there in Ecuador, see maybe what happened.
[02:02:14] Unknown:
I think the power went out. The phone with it. He lost his Internet.
[02:02:20] Unknown:
He lost his Internet?
[02:02:23] Unknown:
Yeah. His Internet went down.
[02:02:26] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, let's let's hope they bring it back pretty quickly. I will let, Paul English know that, he's having Internet problems.
[02:02:40] Unknown:
Does that mean his phone is out also? Is his phone coming from the Internet?
[02:02:46] Unknown:
No. No. I'm sure that's not from the Internet. Right? Once we get him a magicJack, yeah, the magicJack will go down.
[02:02:54] Unknown:
Yeah. His voice on the IP, WhatsApp, malfunction with the on it now.
[02:03:05] Unknown:
What was that, Jack?
[02:03:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Of course. His, magicJack or his WhatsApp will not function without Internet or Wi Fi connection.
[02:03:17] Unknown:
Right. Okay.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
But but we do need to get him a magicJack. He seems really, desperate to have one.
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I ordered one myself. Hasn't shown up yet. But
[02:03:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I got one in, 02/2007, '1 of the first customers.
[02:03:42] Unknown:
Well, Roger and I Even my landline comes from the Internet.
[02:03:46] Unknown:
Right.
[02:03:48] Unknown:
Yeah. MagicJack is hard to do. Hey, Paul. I was looking into that magicJack years ago, and they said I couldn't get on conference calls with it.
[02:03:58] Unknown:
Well, it doesn't doesn't matter. What he's trying to do is he's trying to just communicate with people. Jack, can you, can you make, 800 number calls on a magicJack?
[02:04:12] Unknown:
Yes. Yes.
[02:04:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then that covers it. That's that's really all Roger needs is to be able to talk to people in The States and to be able to call international 800 numbers. So it's all good.
[02:04:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, there you go. He gets Patrick Willis.
[02:04:33] Unknown:
Everybody Sorry. Another month to speak to him, try to get on WhatsApp, because he has that, and he knows how to use it. So for the time being until we get him a magicJack, WhatsApp is, is an alternative for the moment.
[02:04:49] Unknown:
Okay. Excellent. Thank you very much. So okay. The, stream is down. And, Julie, if you could mute yourself, I think there's some air noise coming in with this,
[02:05:10] Unknown:
if if we're done talking. Patrick Woods is the Technocracy Rising guy. Patrick Woods Technocracy Rising dot com or Technocracy.News.com or not .com, just .news. Anyway, he's really good, and he's been chasing after this since, like, 2000 or 02/2001. You know, maybe even earlier, in the nineties, I think. Maybe I heard him talking about that, but, he's good. So check him out too at iYield.
[02:05:44] Unknown:
Excellent. Alright. Thank you, Dave. Okay. I'm gonna mute you guys. Yes, sir. Yeah. Larry are you guys Larry
[02:05:56] Unknown:
or Jesse? Nice, Paul.
[02:05:59] Unknown:
He's Jesse. Okay. Who are you? Paul, Larry, or Jesse?
[02:06:03] Unknown:
I'm Jesse.
[02:06:05] Unknown:
Larry Moe. Larry Moe. Curly the cheese.
[02:06:10] Unknown:
You're over the place. But, anyways, in the old, in the oldtravel.com and, Wayback Machine, the wording about who could apply for passport is a little bit different. And, and it sometimes seems to me a little bit more accurate or more, more understanding for the new babies. I'm gonna put it in the chat room. But one of the paragraph says, as the title of the certificate indicates, only a person who qualify as a noncitizen national, a person who is a US national but not a US citizen, is eligible to apply for SHOT certificate. And when you look at the new one, it says a little bit different. So I think they removed this part, but, to me, it sounds more, better for the new baby to understand. I'm gonna put it in the chat room.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
The the only sentence that we need to be concerned about is a national owes permanent allegiance to a small estate. That is there's three definitions there. Actually four. There's US citizen, there's US national, there's noncitizen national, and simply national. There are four political statuses in that paragraph, And the only one that applies to us is national, small n of a small s state. That's it.
[02:07:38] Unknown:
What I like about this one, and when you look at your passport book, is you needed to do it in a practical sense because most people don't understand. And I agree with you a %. Those but when you put them and you see they are eligible because most people, they think there's only one US citizen or there's only one, status. So when you point your finger to the passport or this one I just put there in your in the chat room, and you say, you see? Also, there's another stat at national. I have tried many times and your eyes open because most, common people, 99%, they cannot imagine there's another status.
So in a practical sense, more realistic for new babies, I've been doing it that way and has worked with me a lot.
[02:08:23] Unknown:
Well, can you imagine how quickly their head would explode if you actually pointed out in one sentence or in one paragraph that there are actually four political statuses? Their head would explode. There's four of them. Which one are you? You think you're this one. You think you're The US citizen because when your feet hit the ground, the fourteenth amendment said you were a US citizen. But are you? Or are you a citizen of your original sovereign state where you were born? If you're a national Another thing. If you're a national I if you found a report go ahead. Alright. Go ahead. No. You go ahead.
[02:09:09] Unknown:
I found a report, and I'm gonna get it. And, what they're gonna, present it to the congress, The report, I think, was in March. The problem with all the regional passport agency or, I mean, the process centers, they were gonna build six new process center in the last four years. And they're having big issue with the recruits because they're not doing as much. It's like, 40 pages. And, so they came to conclusion that, for example, a lot of people can't get their passport on time or they don't have the paperwork, so they go to the congressman or to the senators. And one of the things that's getting all the passport behind, in many cases, is, they receive over, in the year '23, over 600,000, requests from senator what's going on with their, citizen passport.
So they had to remove personnel from one area to go now research what's happening to those. And those personnel, they were processing passports, and they have a quota and they get behind. And, and they're getting managers. And one thing happened, your photo is supposed to be only six months, valid. And sometime by the time they come back to your passport, nine months, eight months, twelve, a year and a half, now that, picture is, past the time limit. And, so they put now the regional manager to see to make it more easy to see if, okay, we'll accept this one. That's nine mile, but this one, we won't. So everything's chaotics.
They're supposed to do a hundred, and and the new recruits are only doing 40. That's getting them behind. So everything has got stagnant now with the new administration. So that report is being sent or already has, I don't know, to the congress to see what they're gonna do to make it more, more competent in that sense. And, so there you go. You got about over a million, way behind. Mhmm. And one of my family member is super behind, and they were both the same age, the same thing. And we got the other one pretty fast, and the other one we haven't, so we fell in the crack. So, it's very interesting. I'm gonna get that report and give it to you guys. And Larry, I see that he helps a lot of people. I'm gonna give it to him. But, it's very interesting. So they are, in the process of doing six more regional passport, process center.
Another thing. One more thing. All the walk ins they used to get, they're not doing it no more because they were removing personnel to receive the new walk ins. And, so that was getting them behind. And I think now with the new ID thing, now they are overloaded with all this. By the way, if anybody wants to get a job, I also found out that, they're looking for new recruits, and you only will get paid between a hundred and 50 and a hundred and $80,000 a year. So if anybody needs a job and, you'll have a lot of overtime, double time, up to twenty four hours a week. So if anybody is interested in working,
[02:12:17] Unknown:
there you go. But but I wouldn't wanna do that because then I would have to pay income tax.
[02:12:24] Unknown:
I'm just saying. Working for who?
[02:12:26] Unknown:
For the secretary of So why the regional profit center? Yeah. Because you're you're actually you're actually employed by the federal government or by an agency of the federal government, so you have to pay taxes because those are eight those are covered under, eight seventy one b or eight seventy seven b because you got your income from an entity that got its life from the federal government.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
So Well, for a year a year of getting a hundred and $80,000, we're in National one year only, and I'll put you back.
[02:13:07] Unknown:
They're gonna whack you about 60 g's in taxes anyway.
[02:13:12] Unknown:
Fuck. Just just doing paperwork the whole day.
[02:13:18] Unknown:
Local local, passport processing centers. They're all buried.
[02:13:25] Unknown:
Oh. They're all Oh, okay.
[02:13:28] Unknown:
So, hey. If you you wanna Hey, Paul. Go to work for the government, do it. You might clear a hundred and 20 g's. That's about five times how much I make. Anyways, yeah, Larry.
[02:13:44] Unknown:
I can't I can't do it. I can't work for timers.
[02:13:47] Unknown:
If you work for the Yeah.
[02:13:52] Unknown:
When, Jack said that, Roger's Internet he lost his Internet. Does that mean just the Internet connection? Because it's my understanding he has battery backup for his power. Is that correct?
[02:14:03] Unknown:
Yeah. His his Internet went down. Yeah. He he he dropped off of both, he dropped off of both remote control and Zoom at the same time, so I knew it was his Internet went down. If his power would have gone out He did. His his Internet router is actually plugged into his battery backup. His lights would have gone out and he would have made a comment about it, but he would have hit the ground running and just kept going with the shell.
[02:14:41] Unknown:
I just wanted to say something about Patrick Wood. He, for Dave, Dave yet, he did start a lot earlier, than that. He was actually an assemblyman in Santa Cruz, California government. And when they were doing their local business, he started to realize they were getting all of these outside influences steering what they wanted to do. And that's how he got started, and that was, like, 9394 in that area. And he he got into what he is today starting with that experience in local government seeing that there was a lot of restrictions on what they could do. He he was curious to find out where that power came from and what was going on.
[02:15:42] Unknown:
Is is Jeffy still with us?
[02:15:45] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am.
[02:15:47] Unknown:
Jeffy, we were talking earlier about, you know, success stories, and, I believe it was you. It's the one that always jumps into my mind. Wasn't it you that had the chief of police say that they did not have zero six in over you guys?
[02:16:08] Unknown:
Yes. Verbally.
[02:16:13] Unknown:
I don't know if your connection's bad. I can barely hear you. Do you hear me now? Faintly.
[02:16:21] Unknown:
What about now?
[02:16:22] Unknown:
That's a little better.
[02:16:25] Unknown:
Yes. It was Nutanix, verbally.
[02:16:29] Unknown:
That was an amazing story. I I saved that I saved that archive to this day because that is that is amazing story.
[02:16:38] Unknown:
I was like, but then he emphasized, you know, if you do something wrong, somebody died, kills you, you will still be process here. But that's obviously but, in the sense of whether calls or regulation, it seems that, they kneel. But that was after one hour of being gathered with many other officers. It was very interesting.
[02:17:11] Unknown:
Do you know who they made a phone call to?
[02:17:15] Unknown:
No. But I saw them, a group of them fighting and talking between each other, and they were in the in the phone. And I think, probably the attorney was one of them.
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Yeah. That's an amazing story when the law enforcement says, no. We do not have jurisdiction over you, and they get in their car and leave. That's powerful.
[02:17:40] Unknown:
Yeah. That was one very, very jumpy, young lady. She was terrifying in many ways. Larry, are you there?
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here.
[02:18:02] Unknown:
I'm gonna put in the chat room every morning. I think it'll be handy to many of you guys there, but I'm gonna put in the chat room. I don't have the time and, some things are over my head. And I think it'll be very useful because a lot of the complaints or or new babies, they don't understand. I think they're way behind. And you know that one of our case and our family member, you know it. So I think a lot of us were were falling the cracks because, maybe we need dodge in there. So I'm gonna put it in the shower so you can get it. It's like 40 pages.
But, some of the examples I gave is, it's just, better than if you read it yourself.
[02:18:53] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:19:33] Unknown:
And one of the things when you are in front of them, you need to be stand your ground, know your information, and, same thing when you send affidavit to the secretary of state, the less worrying, the less it would be. You don't need to send a page or two as Roger said. And the less you say when you're interacting with them, the less. And, and, if you're not used to that
[02:19:58] Unknown:
you'll tremble a little bit. You'll you'll feel intimidated. So you need to train yourself mind wise, especially for those guys that wanna shine as them in the driving thing. And on any any other things you have interactions. You need to train your mind, how will you react in different scenario, and repeat it when you're driving, repeat it and everything. And those and hear those this shows and I could relate all those, different scenarios,
[02:20:28] Unknown:
because sometimes trying to solve a problem. We usually overspeak or we'll talk too much, and that's when you get in trouble. As that gentleman, he confessed, I understood what he meant, but he did he was trying to be honest. And, and he confessed, and they'll use any little thing they could get against him.
[02:20:53] Unknown:
Well, I can add to the anything to use against them. I've been recording everything with these authorities. It's gonna be on the tenth. June tenth is gonna be twenty years that I've been a victim of police corruption. I always carried in my pocket a Walkman cassette recorder. Today is stink. They the quality is they're useless. But I always carried that invisible and let them see that. And a lot of times, I would shut it off. And that's when I would always get amazing stuff because I was at all the backup recorders, including, voice activated little recorders that you could just drop in between the seat if they're gonna impound the vehicle and stuff. So listening back to some of those recordings, like when I was in the police car once and in handcuffs, and the guy was in my van searching it, and I got him on video because he shut so the deal is you you gotta record them because they just come at you most cases last two years. You can never recall with great detail unless you have recordings to listen back and take notes. And then with those notes, you put it in your paperwork when done properly becomes a court of record. And that's where I've I've always had success even when I was a dumbass. All I had to know is that you could ask them questions. That's when the gates opened for me. That was Mark Stevens, one YouTube video.
Once I learned you could ask questions, the game began. And now I'm twenty years down the road, and now doors are opening. I don't even know who to go after. I can go after anyone I want. I've I've I'm I have the ability to make them go away. I've heard overheard them say many ways, many times, he's not like the rest of them. You're gonna have nothing but trouble with that guy. I've heard them say things like that so many times. So you gotta record them in order to get your facts straight and then convert it to writing. And that's where the game, instead of defense, becomes offense.
So I'm gonna yield there because you have to have something to use against them, and you'll never know what you're gonna get till you got a recorder that's in the truck they just towed. K? I didn't even listen back to that to see what I got in that. But I'll yield there. Thank you, Scotty. Thank you.
[02:23:16] Unknown:
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[02:24:19] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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[00:01:38] Unknown:
And so would we. Thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you, Alvin Lee, for introducing us here. Love to change the world. We try on a regular basis, six days a week anyway, to, take at least take a swing at that big fat softball coming over the plate. And, we will, of course, do so again this this, Thursday. It's today. So Thursday, May. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. We have a number of folks that do help us extend our reach all over El Globo. El Mundo is the Spanish word, El Mundo, and, we wanna give them proper recognition and thanks. It's the fifth of the month of June. Go ahead, Paul.
[00:02:21] Unknown:
Alright. Yes. We have a full complement of, platforms joining us this morning. We have, radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the pond, across the drink. We have one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago. Thanks to WDRN productions, Fort Collins, Colorado, and the net family of broadcast services, including homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live TV, and streamlife.tube. Our anchor primary platform is eurofolkradio.com, and we give our thanks to not only Paul, our buddy across the pond, but also pastor Eli James who, joined us, just last week.
Information on, on that archive, if you go to the show notes, if you go to the show description, I have added a link to, Eli's Amicus Curie Brief, that he, posted an article about on Eurofolkradio.com. Just go to that link, and you'll be able to read the entire thing for yourself. That being said, we are on EurofolksRadio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we are on Global Voice Radio Network, that via PodHome and, all of the syndicated platforms that, PodHome brings us. We also have a website that is the matrixdocs.com, where you will find links to Eurofolks, to Global Voice Radio, and you will also find links to free conference call to join us live on the show. And I'm really excited. I think it's gonna be a great program today.
Roger, I will get with you favor,
[00:04:15] Unknown:
Paul. For anybody that's listening, if you wish in order to speak, it is adults only no matter how old you are. So if you're a hundred and 50 years old and you do not act as an adult, don't expect to be speaking.
[00:04:30] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[00:04:32] Unknown:
Was that Alan?
[00:04:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Alan, your your mic sounds terrible, and it's a little low. So Now Maybe we can
[00:04:42] Unknown:
get together. Today is is Alan not in court now? Evidently, he's not. He's speaking to us. So do we have his full compliment today or not? Yes. We do. We have his full compliment.
[00:04:57] Unknown:
And, also, Roger, I'm gonna have to get with you. Make sure that you have the link to StreamYard so you can join, Paul English for Paul English live this afternoon. I'll make sure that you have,
[00:05:13] Unknown:
all this stuff. Okay. Well, you and I need to spend a little time period, so we'll take a break after the show and do that. I think I've got StreamYard on here, but I may not after that this,
[00:05:24] Unknown:
IO change we had a while back. So I just don't know. You know? Well, he'll he'll send you a link in an email, and all you've gotta do is click on that link. Or you can go you can go to paulenglishlive.com/call,ca
[00:05:40] Unknown:
Okay. Woah. Oh, okay. Let's deal with it later. K? Alright. Well, I heard somebody's gonna send me a link for yesterday's interview. That never came either. So, you know, it's a little bit, thin ice here today, and I did not in do the interview with Kevin yesterday because I think there's too many cooks in the kitchen. You know, I I always deal with somebody directly and he hears this and this. Then we'll do it this time, and I didn't get that from Kevin. I got it from Julie. And so the link never showed up, and the email I did get from Kevin was, I'm real busy this week. We might have to pass Sunday is good. So and I wrote him back and gave him some options, and I never heard back from him. I never got a link from him. I never got any correspondence from him. Okay. Well I just chined it on. Alright? So that's what happened yesterday. There's too many cooks in the kitchen. That's the problem. Julie was Julie was talking to him last night, and she texted me just after midnight,
[00:06:40] Unknown:
saying that he had sent the link to both you and Julie on Tuesday. So it might have wound up in your spam folder.
[00:06:49] Unknown:
No. It's not my spam folder. I've only gotten one email from him ever, and it didn't have a link in it. It had a long paragraph with all kinds of stuff. So, anyway, that's the problem. A, too many cooks in the kitchen. If I had directly dealt with him, we would have known there was a disconnect. I didn't, so we didn't. So that's the problem. Okay? But it'll be it'll work out. No big deal. There you know, I've spent almost seventy seven years without talking to Kevin, so it hadn't hurt me yet. So we'll probably get it next week. Okay?
[00:07:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Well, pulling was what I was gonna be doing.
[00:07:25] Unknown:
Okay. Sorry, audience. Usually, we don't have all this discomboboration there. But we got a little bit today, a little bit of confusion, and I found out, of course, yesterday afternoon that I was gonna be on with Paul today. And, hopefully, Paul will send me that directly. K? Yeah. And that is, 04:00 eastern time. Correct?
[00:07:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Four to six. You'll you'll have three to me. You'll have the second hour of the WBN three two four program and the whole after show. So and that's typically an hour long.
[00:08:08] Unknown:
Okay. So Paul's gonna take the first hour and do whatever he wants to do, and then I'm on the second hour. That's kinda the way he schedules guests, I think, from what I've listened to. Right? Yep. Okay. Alright. Well, stay on top of me. Would would you? Because this is all a a bit confusing, but it'll work out for sure. Okay. Is that over?
[00:08:30] Unknown:
Just keep an just keep an eye on your email, and that's how I'll communicate with you until I can remote into both of your computers and straighten out Teams.
[00:08:39] Unknown:
So you can Yeah. You gotta do that too because I've got five Skype messages, and it never shows up. It just rings and rings and rings. I don't know how to get to it. It's just one damn mess in at least my life that Microsoft has created, and I'm sure it's not just mine. But it's I've been using Skype for sixteen years. It's my go to umbilical cord to The US, and now it's gone. And so it's, it's quite confusing. I can't figure out I can't get an order in for a magicJack because of whatever reason. And so it's just one big frustration. K?
[00:09:15] Unknown:
I think what you're gonna have to do, with magic I ordered a magicJack, and it it went just fine. What you're gonna have to do is when you order the magicJack, you're gonna have to actually order it with a shipping address in The US.
[00:09:31] Unknown:
It is in The US. I've got that already. It's not out in the country. But Okay. The the website will will not let me go forward. It gets to a point I try to put in the correct information, won't go forward. So, after aggravating a whole day I love spending the time on the radio show for this. After a whole day or two of trying, I just got so aggravated. I threw my hands up in the air and walked away from it because that's the way I handle stuff like that. Okay. So, anyway, that's still where we are. I ordered one of the call me if you're listening, you're trying to call me on Skype from The US and I don't answer, I can't answer because I don't know how.
[00:10:10] Unknown:
Right. Well, I ordered the magicJack, so I've already been through it once. And I can remote in, and we can get her done.
[00:10:19] Unknown:
No problem. So sorry for all the crap you tuned in out of your life to listen to this stuff and beneficial. I know this isn't, and I'm sorry. And the whole show just started off wrong. K? So, anyway, we'll try and go forward and smooth it out in live radio. Okay? Great, Paul.
[00:10:36] Unknown:
It's just to let him know that not everything is sunshine and roses. You know? There's hiccups everywhere, so it's okay. We got. Yeah. Okay.
[00:10:45] Unknown:
Alright. Anyway, well, we got sunshine in Ecuador this morning as opposed to yesterday. It's all cloudy for the most part. So that I hope that's a step in the right direction, but, I will be, I guess, on with Paul English this afternoon, and we'll we'll cross our fingers. And I hope to hope his technical trousers or my technical underwear doesn't have any giddy ups. So, there we go. Alright. Good morning, I think. We were supposed to start the show off, I believe. Was it Kathy from Montana with the the letter from yesterday that her friend got? And I guess Larry's come armed with his response from a previous letter. Though they've changed, it appears, there's another change in that first paragraph. Now that's the one they've been using since they started this.
So somebody's gotten in and tweaked it a little bit. Now what they're doing is they're trying to see if you if they can bluff you again. They know they fooled your ass your whole life, and now you're on to them. And and you got the answer that they can't overcome, so they're gonna try and bluff you again. So that's all this is. Okay? So if you receive one of these, it's just more proof that these guys are the biggest pieces of crap, slave and lying, murdering bastards that have ever walked the face of the earth, and we beat them. And we beat them with one sentence on one piece of paper to one guy, and they stand mute. The biggest, baddest son of a bitches that have ever walked the face of the earth, folks. Mhmm.
We we shut them up mute silence with one sentence. That's how powerful they are. And people say they don't they don't recognize. Well, they do recognize it. And if they weren't scared of it and if they weren't following the rules, you think they'd be sending out bluff letters?
[00:12:42] Unknown:
Paul, do you? If they had anything of any substance or any way to address it, they wouldn't bother with the bluff letter. They'd just shut it down.
[00:12:53] Unknown:
They'd come do what Michael thinks they're gonna do. Hey. I'm gonna come kick the door in and take your stuff. Okay? Well, they don't do that. It doesn't work that way. And they've got a it's their whole system is built on this and hiding this, and if they don't recognize that their whole system's gone. So that's where we get numbers. We get numbers. We put pressure on them. Yep. Okay? And that's the object. The object is to put pressure on them with enough people and have enough people start pulling themselves out of their damn system. And what's the real tag here? The real tag is they're shackling you to this false debt. And this breaks that chain, and they can't do a damn thing about it except expose themselves and be open tyrants. That's their only option here.
So, anyway, it's, it's foolproof. It's proven. It works. If you wanna be free under Jewish slavery or you're tired of living your life under these sorry pieces of of garbage, I'd say human garbage, but I'm not sure they're human, of garbage. They're just garbage. They're slime. They're scum. K? You wanna separate yourself from that? You wanna get out from under being in servitude to these bastards through all this fraud? This is the place to be because we can help you do that. So, that was Cathy, are you with us this morning? I believe it was Cathy, wasn't it?
[00:14:23] Unknown:
Good morning, Roger. It's Christie
[00:14:25] Unknown:
from Christie. I'm sorry, sweetie. I'm sorry. I've got a lot floating around in my head as you can probably tell. Now Christie is one of our listeners out west in Montana. Correct? But do you you don't regularly attend Gary and Gina's meetings? You're a little bit aways from Kalispell. Right?
[00:14:47] Unknown:
Well, they haven't had meetings
[00:14:50] Unknown:
for clients that we do too. I know. Yeah. But
[00:14:54] Unknown:
I used to attend as as often as I could, and they were, they're not very far away. And,
[00:15:01] Unknown:
they'll Well, that's good. When I could.
[00:15:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. So, great great path. Gary had really good information, and, it was definitely, a lot of people was involved. Well It was it was a great thing.
[00:15:17] Unknown:
Well, I have a feeling they're going to recommence as soon as we get Gary back in the health realm. But, Gary and Gina, you're very fortunate that you're not too far away. You can drive and get to a meeting of like minded people. Excuse me. Absolutely. Just what I need today because that's a very powerful, environment to inject yourself into. You meet a lot of friends. It helps ease the troubled minds, and and you get exposed to a lot of information. So, hopefully, Gary will be at a point health wise where they can start that up. I know the last time he was on, he said people are calling him and asking him when they're gonna start again. So, you were one of those students. You're very fortunate to be in that environment. Now do you wanna go with let's save the other thing until that is resolved and you can come and tell the whole story. K?
Because Christie's got another aspect of this too. Go ahead. I'm sorry for interrupting. Go ahead.
[00:16:19] Unknown:
Oh, that's okay. I said I'll know more about the ATF case by in about a month. So that'll be a very exciting story to tell, and I just don't wanna start telling the story without having a conclusion.
[00:16:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Well yeah. I understand. And you leave, but we'll just tell you that she's been with. She's been through an experience for about the last, what, year or a little over and, with the ATF on an on an issue. And, it's very interesting story. We don't have the conclusion yet, but as, Christy says, we should have in about a month. So she'll be back to, give us that. And I know she wants to, and, I want her to. And Mark's well aware of this. He knows about this also. So, we'll get to that when the time comes. Let's go back to your friend that you were helping that got this bluff letter, this new bluff letter back that we discussed in the after show yesterday. This came up in the after show, and I want to move it to the, to the whole audience today. Hey, Raj.
[00:17:18] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Paul. One quick comment. The added audio processing added a half second delay between Zoom and free conference calls, so just be conscious for that. Okay. You know, it it it's not full duplex, and there is a half second to a second delay. But, I don't know. I had to balance, no delay with normalizing,
[00:17:45] Unknown:
and making ABC sound better. So Yeah. Okay. Well, there's all trade offs in life. You know? Exactly. Okay. So, Christy, you wanna, tell us since the some of the people yesterday here heard that, obviously. But for the others that didn't, you wanna just start from you got a friend. You were helping him submit all his paperwork and understand. And you wanna tell us the story?
[00:18:10] Unknown:
Sure. Yep. So I have a friend that went through all the paperwork, and, I helped them because I I believe that, you know, after all of my experience with dealing with the feds and stuff, your your system works. And I tell people do not stray from Rogers' system. So we filed with secretary of state. I told him, you know, let that sit for about a month. He filed with the IRS, and he filed for his passport card, And it was his original. You know, he had to go and and swear the oath, and I told him that, you know, they might give him a little issue there, which they didn't. And so he took the oath, and they sent everything off, and then he got a a letter yesterday.
And, you know, new people are a little nervous about this to begin with. So let me just get to that letter.
[00:19:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like for you to not wanting to I pretty well got I'm sorry that we got this little lag. I'm have to get used to it. I'm I'm very familiar with the first paragraph, over all those other letters for all these years. Now evidently, they've changed it a bit. And, so that was one thing I wanted you to read over again slowly for the audience today and, show you what they're really trying to do, I believe, is to see how much you know. Are you a Anavon Wright student or maybe a former David Strait student, or are you one of my students? Because our students, you hear me every day on here, emphasize and accentuate the education part of this. We're not in this condition because of a lack of people filing paperwork.
We're in this position because of a lack of education and understanding and then coupled with filing per proper paperwork. But the education that you the understanding, you don't have to know every jot, every tittle, every nuance, every little fact, but you do have to have an understanding of what you've done and why and how to defend it. The two key points are, is your understanding enough where you can defend your position if it's challenged and where you can teach other people what we're doing here and help spread the word. Because those two are really critical. And if you can't do that, don't file the damn paperwork. Or at least it'll if you file the paperwork at a time, make a commitment to yourself that you're gonna learn it and understand it until you can do those two things adequately.
Also, if you really wanna learn the information, teach it to others. That's where your fastest learning curve is. K? So sorry, Christy, to inject that, but that's really important for people to understand. And I just don't want people filing paper and then going about their lives. And the reason is nothing changes. You don't change because you don't have the information, and the world certainly isn't gonna react to you filing the paperwork. Okay? So you've got to be the change. The only way that can happen is if you learn and understand the information and have command of it. Period.
So that's my stance on all this. K? I want to affect change. Absolutely. You can affect change unless people know and understand what's been done to us, who did it to us, how they did it to us, and why you're getting out of it and how. K? So sorry to get on my soapbox here. I guess that's the kind of show it's gonna be today. But, anyway, I'm gonna turn it back over to you, Christy, because I wanna hear this paragraph, and the audience wants to hear from you.
[00:21:45] Unknown:
Okay. Yep. I'll just start from the just the beginning. It's pretty short. So, it's, you know, dear dear mister Brown, thank you for your recent passport application. It appears from the fact of your birth and the documents you submitted that you are a US citizen entitled to a US passport. A review of your application shows that you were born within the territory of The United States and subject to its jurisdiction. The laws applicable to US passport provide that you may only be issued a US passport showing you are a US citizen. Therefore, please advise this office, if you wish a US passport to be issued to you at this time, it will show that you are a US citizen.
Because we have no authority to issue a passport showing you as anything other than a US citizen, your application will be denied unless we receive, yeah, will be denied unless we receive a response from you within ninety days.
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Okay. Liars. First of all, it's it's right in the passport. The the delays I'm sorry. The it says right in the passport, everybody here knows that if you've been around here for any length of time at all, passports are only issued to US citizens slash national. So one of the things I hope, and I can understand where this guy wouldn't come at him like I would like to. If it were me, and I would accuse him of being liars, I would hit it with something like, dear former secretary of state slave masters, and then say it doesn't say am subject to. It's it doesn't say are. It says and. There's something that did it. I may have erroneously, because of your fraudulent system, answered questions, yes, that I was and accidentally signed something because of your fraud. But now I don't I know about your fraud, and I'm straightening it out, and you can't say no. Send me my damn documents I paid for.
That would be me. But I can understand where this guy wouldn't wanna come at him like that. K? But there are ways to address it.
[00:23:58] Unknown:
When we're new to this, like, I remember being a little bit, you know, scared because you're Sure. You're telling the people that you've been scared of your whole life, you know, to to buzz off. And, you know, I've I've been a national now for about three years. And, the more that you understand it, the more empowered you are. So when when we got this letter, I was like, well, this is no big deal. I'll talk to Roger and the crew about it. And, you know, and he's like, oh my goodness. You know, they're they're denying me. And so
[00:24:28] Unknown:
No. No. And they're not. You see, they're just trying to test you to see what you you know. And now you know they're on top of slavers. They're liars because of that statement they put in there. That only passports are only issued to US citizens. That's a direct lie according to their own passport and their own regulations and their own damn statutes. They're liars. They're trying to test you and see how much you know. Now a David Strait student, an Anavon Wright student might shrink away and go hide in the corner from that and go, well, I guess I don't know what to reply. They're not gonna send me my documents. But we don't handle that like that because we know what's going on, unlike miss Von Wright's. We know what's going on. We know what they've done. We know how to untie the Gordian knot. Okay? And they can't do a damn thing about it to my knowledge. And all and remember, the it's only relatively lately the last few years that we've had people send the blank affidavit to the secretary of state first.
Okay? And that's because of a weird situation of one weird strange guy that had this particularly unusual circumstances, but we took that and, in my mind, I said, well, it it can't hurt to send them this paperwork, as many as you can. That only helps our position. So the more of these pieces of paper with this information on them, that strongly two worded, two paragraph affidavit, the more of them that see that, the better off we are, it seems like to me. So because of this guy's drunk driving charges and his misunderstanding of American jurisprudence and the fact that they did not only do you know this story, Christie? They did not only deny his passport request.
They revoked his current open passport and kept his money. Okay? I couldn't tell that story. Yeah. Well, it it and for the audience that hasn't, if he would had at least a blank, affidavit, a naked affidavit, cover letter, and a blank affidavit in, at least he could have gone back to the passport office and had an appeal. What where's my where where's my administrative appeal? This was already submitted, but he didn't, so we didn't have anywhere to go. So that's where all this came from. One guy one guy caused the total change in process here of what we suggest. Anyway, you don't have to follow what we suggest. You can go fly off on on your own if you want to. But, anyway, it's accumulation of a number of years of dealing with students who have submitted this paperwork and gone forward and gotten these letters and these obstacles.
And so we come on here as a brain trust, if you will, and try and figure out how to get around them. That was one. It can't hurt to send them more affidavits, but if you don't have one in naked and you submit something and you got skeletons in your closet like this guy did, misunderstanding or not, that gave them a legitimate reason to to to rebut his, revoke his current passport and and and reject the application, keep his money. So if you've got one of those situations in your background, do it this way. If you don't, you don't have to worry about it as much. Remember, for the first number of years that we were teaching this, we didn't know have this situation come up.
Excuse me. And, so we just tell you to go ahead and, apply for a passport straight off. And we didn't have any problem with that for a couple of years until all of a sudden, enough of them started coming in where evidently they started sending out the original bluff letter, which at the end of the first paragraph, you can see it's been re reworked a bit, Christy, because at the end of the first paragraph, it's pretty much the same paragraph, except at the end, it says except by operational law. And they've dropped that now. So we'll just use it anyway.
[00:28:46] Unknown:
K? If they want you to come through an extra hoop to get your documents by, responding within ninety days to their response.
[00:28:55] Unknown:
Yep. Well, that's not that's not bad. That's a long time, actually, when you think about it. And the other situation that happened about a year year and a half ago was Jerry and his wife up in New York had the same type of thing. He had done his earlier than her, got his documents back. He did hers, and she gets a call from the passport office, as many of you have heard this story. And, Jerry says, she comes in. I got a call from the passport office. He said, tell him you're in a meeting, and you'll get a callback in twenty, thirty minutes, something like that. He did that. When the phone rang, Jerry got on there, and they had a discussion with a gentleman who identified himself as Hilton. No first name, no last name, no no badge number, no employee number, no nothing. Just Hilton.
My suspicion is Hilton was somebody either in the upper echelons of, administrative bureaucracy there at the passport division or maybe even Hilton was somebody from the Seventh Floor of the state department where all the the bad crap goes on. And those people know everything that's happening up there. And if it came from one of them, it even goes to solidify the fact that they're we've got their attention, folks. They're getting enough of these where we're getting their attention or Jerry wouldn't have gotten this call. K? And so Hilton goes in and says, well, your wife's born and it's connected to your Syracuse or something. And and she's a citizen of The United States, and we don't issue passports. Same crap here to anybody that isn't citizens. And Jerry was very sharp. He handled it very well to the point where the Hilton told them, he said, well, you really know your stuff. Well, that's a real compliment to me, and I appreciate it, Hilton, whoever your sorry ass is. Okay? And so, Jerry said, okay. We'll send he said, well, I can't do this. I'll send you back the package. And Jerry's thinking, well, we'll try another approach and said, yes. Send me back the package. And when he and his wife got back from vacation, her passports were in the mailbox.
Bluff, bluff, bluff, bluff. These people are paper tigers people. They're paper tigers. They might have a lot of money. They might have a lot of influence. They're all all pretty pretty much stolen and derived from ill immoral and illegal ways, but they don't have a lot of power unless you give it to them. And they got our collective 300 and something million dollars worth of worth of, a a a 350,000,000 worth of people agreeing with their little scam. So they've got that much power. Well, we're taking it away one at a time. And taking it away, the power is what? To pass man made laws, administrative agencies, and attach them to you or else attach you to this debt, this hypothecated fraudulent debt. I'll get you in a second. Hypothecated fraudulent debt of 37,000,000,000,000.
We're adding a trillion dollars to the debt every year. Right now, it's all fraud, every damn bit of it. And what this process allows you to do is to unhitch yourself from this from the debt wagon. Okay. Now, Christy, do you have anything to say? I think that was Samuel. I'll get him in just a second. So, Christy, any any other observations, or is there anything else of import in that correspondence?
[00:32:19] Unknown:
Not not from the correspondence from the state or the passport department. And I think was it Larry that, I did get his link that he sent to a sample letter, and so we're gonna Oh, good. Formulate one to to respond back. And Mhmm. So I appreciate that. And, you know, everything seems pretty straightforward, but it's great to bring up on the on the show. Also, I know it's been a while. One of the other students had called the passport office, and they talked to somebody that said that they were doing training on the well, just a couple weeks ago. A friend of mine called to inquire about
[00:32:59] Unknown:
that. That's right. I'm sorry for I this delay has kinda got me thrown. I'm sorry. It's, was Dave from Orlando.
[00:33:05] Unknown:
So go ahead. I wanna hear your side of this. Oh, okay. Yep. And so he called, and this was probably two or three weeks ago. And he called the passport office, and he just happened to get somebody that had that same response that we're getting so many of these affidavits that they're doing special training in the passport department to process them. And I was like, man, I wish we would've had that on recording. Yeah. Here lately, I've gotten into a habit of recording all my conversations with departments. And, that way, I just have them in my record, but that was a great one to have had.
But, you know, just straight up somebody in my group that that recently did this called to inquire, and he's like, yeah. They said that they're getting so many of these that they have to put on special classes. Boy, and I thought that was to my to your career. Music to my ears. Music to my ears, Christy. Thank you for bringing that forward. Audience, are you listening?
[00:34:02] Unknown:
They're starting to get so many of these. They're having classes on how to administrate them correctly, and they're scared because they're getting so many of them. They don't know any other thing to do but send out one of these very nebulously worded pieces of correspondence like the one Christy just read to us. K? Alright. A minute ago, was that you, Samuel, trying to say something?
[00:34:29] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Okay. Now's your time. I think they used the new I think they used a new tactic in there, Roger. If I heard the reading of the letter right, they said he was born in a territory, and, of course, he was born in a state with a name. I don't think she said territory. Territory. He could be a US citizen as well.
[00:34:51] Unknown:
Alright. Well, hold on because I didn't get territory anywhere out of what she read as Christy. Is the word territory? And it says you're pure by the fact you were born. It doesn't say territory, does it?
[00:35:04] Unknown:
Give me just a moment. Let me back up to the document here. It says, you were born within the territory of The United States and subject to jurisdiction.
[00:35:16] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'll make it can, yeah, fourteenth Amendment's what they're information
[00:35:21] Unknown:
and
[00:35:23] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Where was he born? I can Where where was he where was he born?
[00:35:29] Unknown:
I believe Missouri or Mississippi. Okay. Well, that's just, you know Midwest State.
[00:35:35] Unknown:
Uh-huh. You you could put something in the letter like, is Missouri, the state in which I was born, one of the quote, unquote, outlined territories as referred to in statutes? And so there's a number of ways you can respond to this. I don't think you'll have any problems getting his documents back. I think the and and our deal on the subject to is probably enough in in itself to do that. But with what all Larry gave you, and we haven't heard all those responses yet, you can pile on a bit, probably. That's good ears, Samuel. I didn't hear that. Roger.
Larry.
[00:36:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Whenever you're ready for me, I'm here. But, one of the things I wanted to say was, did, Christine read that it says in her correspondence or her friend's correspondence that it says except as otherwise provided by law or something to that effect?
[00:36:38] Unknown:
No. It wasn't in it. That is not drop the. Yeah, that's on go ahead, Christy. I'm sorry. We got this delay. Go ahead.
[00:36:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Nope. So that was not in there. I will I'll take a a screenshot and share this. I'll just blank out his information and share it in the the chat. If if I can post it, I'll figure it out. So so everybody can figure it out. Or I can put it in Also marker.
[00:37:03] Unknown:
Hold on, Larry. We got this delay. Okay.
[00:37:10] Unknown:
And I can put it in either this this chat or Marcus and so that way other people can see it.
[00:37:17] Unknown:
Okay. Larry, what's your comment?
[00:37:21] Unknown:
She must have received a link from maybe Dave from yesterday because I Yeah. I think you're getting ready. To, yeah, I'm getting ready to email Paul Beaner, a screenshot of the of the bluff letter that the per student I was helping, you know, what what he received. And then I'll also send a a a copy of my response, and, then Paul could put it in the chat or, you know, distribute it as he sees fit. And I'm gonna do that right now. And then when you're ready for me, I could I could read my response.
[00:38:00] Unknown:
Alright. We'll go ahead and get that administrative stuff out of the way, and we'll have you come back and read what you wrote back to them. And, we'll continue while you're working on that. Take Larry a couple of minutes or so. What do you you see oh, okay. Yes, sir.
[00:38:22] Unknown:
I just looked up what is a US territory. US territory is a region that is under the jurisdiction of The United States, but is not a state.
[00:38:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That's right. But they yes.
[00:38:39] Unknown:
Yep.
[00:38:41] Unknown:
And he was born in, you could use probably use that in your bluff letter too. That's funny they would use that language in there.
[00:38:50] Unknown:
Actually,
[00:38:51] Unknown:
that definition on territory is so nebulous and used so many different ways. It's just a sort of a red herring they threw in there Nice. To to say you can be anything they want you to be, and and and it needs to be more specific, and that's why they went there.
[00:39:07] Unknown:
Well, anything you agree with to be more than they want you to be. But, Mirka, what was your, what was your Correct. What was your And I was gonna ask,
[00:39:17] Unknown:
Christy, about the full experience, if there was anything, that her friend heard that, representative or agent say about the, the affidavit. Was there anything else to it, or was that just the, they were just saying that they were getting a lot of those affidavits?
[00:39:40] Unknown:
Yeah. So he just said that they were getting a lot of them. And, my friend's everything went through just just fine. He got his documents in in a really short amount of time. No bluff letter. Basically, I think he was headed out of town to work, and he wanted to have that before he took off. So he called just to check on the status, and, he just happened to get a guy that that told him, oh, yeah. We're getting so many of those. But he didn't look up his affidavit or he didn't, you know, go go very deep into it. But, so I don't know if that answers your question, but No. It does. He didn't really say yeah. So he didn't say much about it or anything like that. But they did recognize it. They acknowledged that they got an affidavit that they're, training people, probably. Yeah. Oh, and then he also said something. So my friend's name is Josh. He's he's actually been on phone calls with me and, Mark in all caps before. So, anyway, Gus has a huge legal background, and so he likes to ask further questions.
And so he was like, oh, so do you know what a national is? And and this guy at the passport office was like, yeah. You know, you guys are not under the whole United States code.
[00:40:53] Unknown:
No. He did say that. Was applying to you.
[00:40:56] Unknown:
He did. Yeah. Yep. Wow. I wish I can get docs to call in. He works a busy schedule. But, Yeah. So, yeah, he did. He goes, yeah. You guys are not under, you know, all of the The United States code, and only certain ones apply. And, I was like, man, if we could have got that on recording Wow. That would have been that would amazing.
[00:41:16] Unknown:
From a foreign passport office employee. Wonderful.
[00:41:21] Unknown:
Because the I think we have a copy of that letter that you got on the National Status Freedom group, but we can compare if you wanna post it and and, like, pick at it and see, you know, what what they're saying and go over it together, if you wanna share it in there. And, we can bring it up on the show again later. Okay. That's your Telegram group? Yeah. And then, Larry Larry has his, response that he wanted to share. You know, I what I tell people is, like, you know, when you're understanding and learning the information, you'll know how to respond to them.
And, you know, yeah, they I I'm seeing that they're bluffing people with the IRS and the state department, even though they are training their agents to respond and to, you know, handle these correctly. It's just testing you guys. The the the ones that are studying, the new students that are coming in, it's just testing you what you know. And there are some that may mix the data, and we don't recommend it because we usually you know, what we do, the steps, the process that we follow is a formula to, you know, effectively weaponize your affidavits.
So, you know, if you're out there learning other things, you're gonna get confused, and you're gonna, probably add things to your, you know, effective, you know, notices that you're sending out that are pretty simple that we have, that that will in invite them to bring back, uplift, you know, towards you, a response towards you that will probably, you know, kinda get you stuck or, have you go back and have to do a little bit more studying. So, just keep it simple. That's all you need to do is keep it simple. Understand what you're reading and discuss it with us. You know, in national status freedom, we go over things, to to make sure that we're covering, you know, the wording that they're using and what they're saying.
And just remember, you know, once you put your affidavit into the secretary of state of DC, It is your choice, and we are now a private individual, no longer in the public, a federal citizen, and they have no authority over you.
[00:43:59] Unknown:
And even the employees are thinking. And even the employees at the post passport office evidently understand that. So that's really good feedback. Thank you. Thank you. Exactly. Oh, yes. Yes. Somebody just said Roger. Who was it? Boy, I'll tell you.
[00:44:27] Unknown:
Roger, I'm ready if you are.
[00:44:29] Unknown:
Okay. You know, Larry, a friend of mine told me some days you get the bear, and some days the bear gets you. Whoever was following Roger, didn't wanna come forward?
[00:44:41] Unknown:
Yeah. That was me. I didn't know I was muted. I was talking. I just had a question. That might be a big open door. Is it a small estate they wrote if it's not a one of the states, or is it a large estate?
[00:44:55] Unknown:
Because the smallest state is the Republic. They used United States,
[00:45:01] Unknown:
Scotty. Oh, I thought that when he read the letter, he used the word state. Oh. Not one of the states. The territory that letter I'll wait.
[00:45:14] Unknown:
The the territory you were born within a territory of The United States is what it said. K? Alright. But Roger. Didn't Okay.
[00:45:23] Unknown:
Larry. Roger, another thing that happens, before Larry starts, another thing that people could say, I am a private individual national. And Okay. The AG understands that, so that's good, to share to put on your paperwork if you Okay. You know, wanna make Thank you very much. Specify.
[00:45:43] Unknown:
Okay. Uh-huh. Okay. Larry,
[00:45:47] Unknown:
I think we're ready for you. Yeah. Did Paul get the, email? Did Paul get it?
[00:45:52] Unknown:
Paul, did you get the email?
[00:45:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Where's the rock?
[00:45:59] Unknown:
He's checking. It's the rock down the well. Okay.
[00:46:02] Unknown:
Well, it said it was sent. So but, this particular bluff letter that this student I helped received, it says in the first paragraph, it appears from the facts of your birth and the documents you submitted that you are a US citizen and entitled to a US passport in accordance with the fourteenth amendment and of the constitution of The United States. All persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States. As supreme law of the land, it cannot be waived by unilateral declaration. And here's that statement we always talk about, Roger, except as otherwise provided by law.
Yeah. The statutes applicable to US passports provide that you may be issued a US passport showing you are a US citizen. We are not in a position to respond to or enter into a dialogue concerning any views which disagree with the constitution or the citizenship laws of The United States as interpreted by the courts. Therefore, please advise this office in writing if you wish a US passport be issued to you at this time. It will show that you are a US citizen. And, of course, it goes on to say, thirty days.
[00:47:15] Unknown:
So Okay. This is the response. Oh, they only gave him thirty days. Well, they gave you ninety. They gave Josh ninety. So he's the head of Larry's guy. Go ahead, Larry.
[00:47:26] Unknown:
No. The yeah. No. This one said ninety days too.
[00:47:30] Unknown:
Oh, it did? Okay.
[00:47:32] Unknown:
Yeah. So I addressed this to Marco Rubio, and then this this bluff letter and by the way, I'm calling this the new and improved bluff letter because I guess they moved away from the Kelly Robertson bluff letters. But, this bluff letter came from Sterling, Virginia, and so we decided to address Marco Rubio and then cc the Sterling, Virginia agency. K. Good idea. So here it goes. Dear mister Rubio, I am in receipt of an unsigned response dated, 11/12/2024, copy enclosed, from an anonymous passport agent who is either ignorantly or intentionally refusing to recognize my political citizenship status, which is known in the organic statutes at large as a national and whose definition is codified at eight United States code 11 o one a 21.
The term national means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state. Please know that I am no longer subject to the jurisdiction of The United States, otherwise known as the District of Columbia. The fourteenth amendment contains a two pronged legal presumption, which includes all persons born or naturalized, plus the phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Please note, it does not say are subject but and subject. This implies and discreetly identifies that there exists a group of persons who were born or naturalized and, and I put this in brackets, not subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
One subjection must be a voluntary decision and action. Otherwise, it is tyranny. This is why according to the law of nations, I get to decide my political status. This I did. I volunteered out of the US federal feudal system and by doing so, I am no longer a federal citizen but rather a state citizen known as a national. This occurred when I mailed my affidavit of citizenship evidence to The US Secretary Of State and I declared my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. It is a fact I am a private individual under natural law and the common law. Since your pass for agent refused to recognize my political status as a national, this agent is not only refusing to issue a passport card and book, but also not following the code of federal regulations.
Please reference CFR title 22 at subpart a general 1.2, passport issued to nationals only. That's what it says. This would be me and what my political citizenship status currently is. Notice the code goes on to also include that, quote, a passport may be issued only to a US national, end quote. This would be what I used to be in terms of my former political status. Please be advised that a US national includes two different political statuses. These are identified by referencing the, quote, US national, end quote, definition at CFR title 22 paragraph 51.1 definitions. And here's what it says.
US citizen means a person who acquired US citizenship at birth or upon naturalization as provided by law and who has not subsequently lost such citizenship. US national means a US citizen or a US noncitizen national. I underlined that part. US noncitizen national means a person on whom US nationality but not US citizenship has been conferred at birth under eight United States code 14 o eight or under other law or treaty and who has not subsequently lost such noncitizen nationality. By way of further explanation, a noncitizen national is an American Samoan.
Now this last paragraph, it's which is short, you can tailor this to your situation, but this was applicable to this student situation. Lastly, please find enclosed another copy of my affidavit of citizenship status along with delivery confirmation, which is already on file with your predecessor, Antony Blinken. Such affidavit was unrebudded within the lawful time frame and now stands as truth, fact, and law. The same affidavit was submitted with my DS 82 application on 10/31/2024. Not only did I pay for both a card and a book, but I also paid for expedited service. However, Department of State's agent failed to provide both.
Please instruct your agent within thirty days to issue my updated passport card and book properly reflecting and identifying my correct political status and credentials as a national and not a citizen of The United States in all databases connected with said card and book. Regards. And within, like, three weeks, the student got his passport card.
[00:52:53] Unknown:
Larry, you may go to the, head of the letter writing class.
[00:53:00] Unknown:
Well, thank you. I try to keep, letters to one page like a response because I've learned from my mentor, less is more. And, also, you wanna educate them, and I've I've, integrated what you've always taught us to use their own words against them.
[00:53:18] Unknown:
Yep. Well, you did a good job. I don't know if if it was me. I don't know if I'd have put all that CFR stuff in there. It didn't hurt, of course. It just, specifies it a little bit more. So I congratulate you on your research and, your ability to write that nice letter in response. They'd see they just don't have any ground to stand on. When it gets right down to it, even now we found out today, even the employees inside the passport office understand what's going on here. Maybe it got to the point where around the water cooler to go, man, I'm getting a lot of these affidavits to say these people have god given rights and stuff. Are you getting them too? And they start a conversation and, no telling where that goes.
But, somebody's becoming aware of it, and that is, a really good feedback, Christie. So I appreciate it greatly. With Larry's letter and your own information and understanding, you shouldn't have any problems drafting something to send back to these folks for mister Josh so he can get his, his official, quote, unquote, freedom documents. Okay?
[00:54:28] Unknown:
Yep. Absolutely. Roger, I had a a traffic incident story to tell if, if there's time. Pretty exciting
[00:54:38] Unknown:
to We got, we got beaucoupes of time a little over an hour. So, you can get it in within that time frame, I'm assuming.
[00:54:47] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It won't it won't take very long.
[00:54:50] Unknown:
Okay. Well, hold on then because should we have her start doing it now, Paul, and get possibly interrupted by the top of the hour or what? Because I think we have to do our formalities
[00:55:03] Unknown:
today. Do we not? We will definitely be interrupted within two minutes. So, we can make small changes.
[00:55:11] Unknown:
Alright. You want Christie to titillate the audience that doesn't, join us live? And so we can have her delay out the first part and then tell the first part after the top, you know, like they do on big time broadcasting. Teaser, you know, teaser. Yeah. Okay. Well, Christie, I want you to lay out the first part of it. And when you hear the whistler, if you could, just stop and let Paul, do the formalities, and we'll pick you up on the back other side. Okay? Does that sound good?
[00:55:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Sounds good. Yeah. I'll just kinda tell you the the front part of the story. So last year, I bought, I bought, an Audi car. And, the way that it all worked out was pretty pretty crazy because in Washington so this was August thirtieth of last year. So in Washington, if somebody owes money on it, you have to go in with them. And, basically, they switched the title from them to me. And so it was it was a paid for car. I paid cash for it. And I, so I went to their DMV, and I said, well, I'm not registering it here. I said, I live in Montana. So they printed me a title of legal ownership in my name. It's got a Washington title.
Yeah. And so, anyway, so I'm the legal owner. Now hold on. Was it a great opportunity.
[00:56:28] Unknown:
Did let me interrupt you. I'm sorry, Christy. Did it say certificate of title, or was it a title? Yes.
[00:56:36] Unknown:
It's the certificate. It's with DMV issued. I should get my my wording right. But so a certificate of title in my name not registered to me. And so I thought, well, this is a great opportunity to not put plates on a car and exercise my my right to travel. Yeah. Yes. I did was, yep. So I own a coding business, and I do a lot of graphics and stuff. And so I just printed out, a real nice looks like a dealer plate. It says Audi. It's got the four rings. It's black lettering on or white red lettering on a black plate. Looks very dealerish.
And so I've been traveling since August 30 and not been pulled over until about two Sundays ago. I was driving through a little small town up here, and, I I passed the sheriff's department guy going the opposite direction. And so I made a left hand turn, and I'm cruising along. And next thing you know, this guy's on my rear bumper. And I thought, well, here we go. I'm getting pulled over. So, I just before he even hit his lights, I'm like, well, I'm just gonna turn off on the side road. And so I I always run dash cams. I have all of this on recording. Lots of people listen to it already. And so I flicked my phone on just as a backup recording, and so become pulling up behind me, lights on.
And I rolled down my window, and I was like, hey. How are you today? And he's like, hey. You realize you don't have plates on this thing? And I was like, hey. You're right. You know, just agreeing with him and, you know, being cordial. And and he's like, well, why not? And I said, well, I don't need them.
[00:58:16] Unknown:
Alright. Now we're gonna hold it hold it right there. Okay. That's fine because I don't need them. Paul, do your deal, and we'll pick that up. And if you're listening on on the stick and you're not with us, then you're gonna miss the back part of the story. You can look in the archives or dart over there with us real quick. Go ahead, Paul.
[00:58:34] Unknown:
Okay. Go to the matrixstocks.com, the matrix stocks Com, and click on the eurofolkradio.com link or the global voice radio link. And then you will be able to follow us into the second hour and get, as they say, the rest of the story. Thank you for joining us on a six point nine w b o u f m Chicago.
[00:58:59] Unknown:
So is your last name Beaner or Harvey? Okay. Now we got Christie in the middle of this story, and, she gets pulled over. And please continue, Christie.
[00:59:09] Unknown:
Okay. So, yeah, basically telling me I I don't need them. And so he goes, well, let me see your papers. And here I'm thinking, you know, Germany. Let me see your papers Nazi Germany. So I said, well, what what papers would you like to see? And he goes, well, I need I need your ID. I need your driver's license. I need a temporary tag. I need your insurance. And I said and by then, I had already had my passport out of my hand, my passport card. And I said, well, I tell you what. I said, this is all I'm giving you. I said, you you can call it in. I said, you can call it in to the state department, and they're gonna tell you to kick me loose. And I said, don't delay this traffic stop any longer than necessary.
And he's like, oh, one of them sovereign citizens. And I said, nope. I said, nope. I said, I've got immunity, and you can call it in. And so he he called it in, and I could only hear one side of the his conversation because the other side was in his ear. And so he was basically, you know, like, well, do you have a driver's license? I said, well, I have one. I'm not gonna give it to you. And he's like, you got insurance on this thing? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, well, you know, these these cars get stolen a lot and, you know, more often than I'd like to admit. And they try to play it up like this. You know? I don't know if it's a stolen car thing, and I'm kinda like, yeah. Whatever.
And so so he calls it in, and, he immediately shifts gears to where this is a courtesy stop. You know? We just wanted to make sure that there was no stolen cars. And and, and so I was like, well, what did they what did they tell you? And, he goes, oh, well, they just said that you don't have any warrants and that, that we we can't keep you. And so this whole this whole stop was less than five minutes. And he, he kicked me loose. He said he said you should get some tags, and you won't get held up on a nice Sunday Sunday like this. And
[01:01:13] Unknown:
and, yeah, I was just kinda like, oh, oh, okay. Thanks. And and I went You could've told him you could've told him. That would be true. But if so, I'd miss a wonderful opportunity to educate, law law officials like yourself.
[01:01:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well and it's it's kinda crazy because, a friend of mine was driving around while on his paper temp tag, and it it expired. Well, he got pulled over, and they wrote him a hundred and $50 ticket. And he provided license registration insurance and, you know, everything. And I told the guy, nope. I'm not giving you any of that. And he asked me why I gave him the passport card when I had a driver's license. And I said, well, that's what I'm supposed to do if I get harassed by law enforcement. You guys can call the state department and verify my status. And, so, he never did. He never ran a VIN number. So as far as he's concerned, he doesn't know if that car was stolen or not. But that's what he shifted it into was, oh, this is just a courtesy stop. You know, just we just wanna make sure this car wasn't stolen. And and, it was interesting because I've I've been
[01:02:23] Unknown:
I've been interested in a lot of law enforcement before. Right. I'm tired of it. Because we never know on these traffic situations how they're gonna turn out. I mean, it could be that very same scenario in another state, another county in the country, and they would've, you know, whooped up, opened a can of whoop ass on you. So you you just never know. And that's my frustration with the traffic issue, but that's a wonderful story, and it's got a nice happy ending. And, you were very nice. He was nice. The conversation, was very brief, and he said, okay. They gave you an excuse and let you go.
So good on you, Christy.
[01:03:06] Unknown:
Good on you. Yeah. I didn't buy anything besides the passport card, and I demanded that, you know, if there's an issue, you call the state department. And, but I think that he was a little taken aback by all of that. He'd probably never been challenged in that way.
[01:03:23] Unknown:
Mhmm. And then, of course, they tried to bring out the old straw man bait of sovereign citizen. Oh, you're one of those. No. No. No. No. I don't even know what those are. That's an oxymoron. I I'm a national, and that says it right here. And it's my choice not there, so I took the choice, and here we are. So, good good on you. And I hope everybody else, if you happen to get in one of these circumstances on the side of the road, have a pleasant experience such as Christie did. Now you have we haven't told the audience about your other thing that you're gonna wait and tell us about. So between that, which is against the big bad ATF, by the way, and now the stop on the side of the road and everything else you've been through, you feel pretty empowered, don't you, Christy?
[01:04:11] Unknown:
Oh, absolutely. You know, when when the feds are backing off and basically running from me at this point because of their wrongdoing Yeah. It's I mean, I I I feel pretty empowered, like you say. You know? I feel feel kinda badass, you know, and the ATF is on the run. They don't wanna talk to me. They they hang up on me. They direct me to Yeah. Some other you know, it it's funny. So Yep. So, yeah, we're working on that. And, like I said, that they I filed all my paperwork. Their response they had it's crazy because I had twenty days to respond to them, and then they have a hundred and twenty days to respond back, which puts us early July. So about about a month from now, we'll have an answer. And, and this is just regarding my property that they that they came in and took. But, the the prosecuting attorney told they they they the prosecuting attorney herself said that I was supposed to get that property back while the ATF did wrong, and they went ahead and forfeited
[01:05:16] Unknown:
the the property. We don't Well, we had the people don't know the whole story yet, so she's gonna fill you in in about a month when this thing Hey, Chris. Comes up. And, yeah. Hey, Bob.
[01:05:31] Unknown:
Yes. Kudos. Lovely story. Love to hear it. You handled it very well. My my response would have been when he asked why didn't you give me a driver's license. Well, if I were involved in a commercial activity, I would be required, and I would do so.
[01:05:47] Unknown:
But I'm not. Good answer. Thank you. Good answer, Bob. Very good. But you did very you did very well. I'm not I'm not criticizing you. Right. No. That's a great addition so that somebody listening could use that in the future. Go ahead, Christy. Respond to Bob, please.
[01:06:04] Unknown:
Yeah. When you're on the spot like that, like, I wanted this thing to be as a brief into the point instead of getting, you know, awful of commercial and stuff. You know, I just wanna I understand. Kidding. You know, you're getting my passport card, and that's it. You know? So, but, yeah, it's funny because after the fact, you say everything runs through your brain, and you're like, oh, man. I could've said that. I could you know? Yep. And so I guess, I I still continue to travel with those same, you know, dealer ish looking plates. And, I'm sure sure I'll get pulled over again, but it's just a good a good opportunity for us, I guess, like, revise or perfect my response to these guys. So
[01:06:52] Unknown:
Christy, what is your response? Was perfectly adequate.
[01:06:57] Unknown:
It does. It was state patrol? I've got Or was it the, a guy from that little town?
[01:07:03] Unknown:
It was a sheriff deputy. Oh, and you know what's interesting because I just wanted it on the video. I said, what department are you with? And he's like, sheriff deputy and his name and stuff. And so he, so I want that on the recording. But and I said I said, well, your office has been notified of my status. So he's probably a little bit confused by, like, wow. You know, that they've been notified. And so I told him, I was like, oh, you're with the sheriff department? Well, you guys have been notified of my status.
And, so, yeah, it's it's it's interesting to get all this stuff on recording. So I went back and listened to it, and and it it was under five minutes of a of a traffic stop. That's fantastic. And I hope provide me some insight.
[01:07:53] Unknown:
Well, good on you. And I hope that the story that you've related to us today, that some of the newer people who still have that fear aspect in their lives, and we understand that it's not a criticism, that maybe this helps dispel it a little bit. So the Christy was cool, calm, and collected. And, you know, the old saying, be like a duck. Have you ever heard that, Christie? Cool cool, calm, and collected on top and paddle paddle like hell underneath. And, you've been doing you've been doing a lot of paddling. You've been doing some studying. You've confronted several different groups of authorities on this, and it sounds like to me you've come out pretty clean on every one of them. So congratulations, and thank you for letting the follow
[01:08:42] Unknown:
your when I tell folks to go ahead. Your teaching to it, it's because of my experience dealing with feds and locals that, you know, have just they they just back off. And when Yeah. When you've done everything right, that's the real deal.
[01:08:58] Unknown:
Mhmm. So, here's something for mister l b Bork, who thinks my stuff is a lot of junk and it doesn't work. Here's another example of it works. In every works really applied, mister Bork. I'm sure you're not listening. You're probably shipping out your hundred dollar books. So, yes, sir, Paul.
[01:09:21] Unknown:
Anybody out there that's whining about success stories or the lack thereof? Here's one for you.
[01:09:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You know, we had this guy. It's interesting. Years ago, he was an actor. I don't even remember his name. You weren't around yet, Paul. And he came on one day. Nice guy. It was during the COVID stuff. And he goes, well, where are your where are your victory stories? Well, nobody had ever asked me that before. And so you think about it, and I said, well, we we we don't have any because everybody does what you want them to do. Then we're not having to go in and beat people up in this, that, and the other. And, so, that was just real interesting. Here's another, here here is a victory story that you can hear firsthand, but that one threw me for a loop a while back. It's like waving checks around at an MLM meeting. You know?
We just don't do that. We've never had any problems with anybody pretty much to that point. So I said, well, there is no victory stories because everybody they do what you want them to do. I guess that's a victory in itself, isn't it?
[01:10:35] Unknown:
Okay. And I think there's probably a lot of it. You know, people just don't call in, share them. Like, I'm I'm I'm an everyday listener. I listen to the archives and, you know, I've listened to a lot of, you know, everybody. And I'm like, you know, some sooner or later, I've gotta start sharing some of the stuff and especially with my friend Josh dealing with the passport people, not dealing with them, but, you know, having them say that, that we're not under the United States code and and that kind of stuff. It's huge to be fair. Like, that's huge testimony.
[01:11:09] Unknown:
That's huge. It's very, very it looms large. Yes, Paul?
[01:11:14] Unknown:
I I think that the lack of victory stories, I think it has to do with we're a very close knit community. We not only, are on the same show every day, but there's the after show and then there's other places where people congregate. Everybody pretty much knows everybody. So if any one of us, like, examples, Joe Lusticka, Mike Nail, Sherry, I mean, everybody circled the wagons around those cases, and everybody knew what was going on with them. And if there was anybody that was really in trouble, somebody would know about it. It's not like, oh, well, you just haven't heard about it because they're still busting rocks at Leavenworth.
[01:12:04] Unknown:
No. No. Take your time. Would have known and alerted Roger. Someone. I I I promise you, if something happens to somebody on this situation, I'm the first one they call. Right? Roger, Roger, Roger. I got a letter. I got a letter. I got this. I got that. Believe me. I'm the first one they call, and I've never had one of those calls in fourteen years. It wasn't something like this bluff letter that people didn't understand or whatever. But we've just never they they don't there's no blowback. There's not one instance. It's not that we haven't heard of it. If it happened, believe me, I'm the first one they call. Exactly. Roger. Year, six days a week. It's open.
We never get those calls. Go ahead. Whoever's talking.
[01:12:53] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Bob. As a contrast, I wouldn't call it a success, but it wasn't entirely a failure. Older listeners have heard this story, but my oldest daughter, this was probably an o two or 02/22 or so in there. It was after the pandemic because we had gone to see if True News was holding an evening service over Oh, yeah. Bureau, and they weren't. But we sat there reconfiguring our thinking as to what we were going to do if we were gonna go, you know, go eat or what. And we sat there for a while just talking. And slowly, a police not police. They're out of the city limits. They sheriff's cruiser rolls up.
And then about ten minutes later, another one comes up in a pickup, and come up and wanna, you know, see what's going on. And we told him what we were doing and what was going on. And, of course, he wants to see ID and license and all that. Well, simple fact is my daughter can't withhold her license. She doesn't even have one and never had one. So she hands him her passport card, and he's just confused. And I encouraged them to check it out. One was the supervisor, and he was obviously taking the lead, and, they couldn't read it. It didn't do anything for or against her. They couldn't read it. They couldn't get any info off of it that was valid through whatever system they were using.
So they said, well, we really don't know what to do here, but, sir, we'd appreciate it if you would take the wheel and and, you know, vacate the premises because, you know, there's nothing going on here. And we were alerted by the securities cameras that, you know, somebody was loitering here, and I said, that's fine. And so we left, and it was somewhat anticlimactic. But, you know, like I said, I wouldn't really consider it a success story. They just didn't know what to do.
[01:14:58] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:14:59] Unknown:
So, anyway
[01:15:01] Unknown:
And the lesson for the audience is some of these departments are not tied into the system where they can read the passport. For it. It's a certain system. Some are evidently, some aren't. We don't know all the intricacies of it, but that seems to be what happened here that that sheriff's department was not tied into. Do they call it the pass system or something,
[01:15:23] Unknown:
seems like? That's what I recall. Yes. Yeah. We had a good conversation for, like, ten or fifteen minutes, you know, and I was showing them some things that I you know, things I had saved on my phone. I said, you know, take a look at this. And they were they were attentive. They weren't enthusiastic, but they weren't dismissive. So I figured, well, you know, we'll we'll use the time we got and at least plant some seeds. So Yep.
[01:15:51] Unknown:
Educate you as best we can and see if, any of them sprout. Good work, Bob, as always. Bob, old time listener for almost since we started day, Roger. Yes, Samuel?
[01:16:06] Unknown:
Hey. Hey, Bob. Did you know during that period of time, Rick was getting a lot of death threats and somebody was actually breaking, overriding their security, getting inside the building and making sure that they knew somebody was there. So you may have been on pretty high alert ground there with the sheriff's department or something. Yeah. That probably is why that happened, Bob.
[01:16:32] Unknown:
How's Rick doing? I don't listen to him on a regular basis, Samuel. I know you do. How are they doing over there at, Rick Wiles? What's
[01:16:43] Unknown:
the It's called True News, but it's it's done. He's done with news. He's not doing it anymore after twenty six years. And he's going completely to adult bible studies, which he does every day. And he's also, gonna be offering child. The I see says this will be the first ministry
[01:17:04] Unknown:
who's ever did an outreach child bible study program, and he's gonna be doing that soon as well. That's smart. That's smart. Counteract them. That's where they aim right at the children. So good for Rick, and, I I wish him a lot of success with that. Okay. Anybody else got something to offer here, a comment or question? There's, there's Bory, I believe. Hey, Bory. Yes?
[01:17:31] Unknown:
Hey. Good morning, Royer. Yes. Morning, Bori. You say that we don't have success stories, but we do. We all of us are successful.
[01:17:39] Unknown:
Well, I Everything I do understand this. Your paperwork
[01:17:42] Unknown:
is successful.
[01:17:43] Unknown:
You know? Well, I know that. But if somebody asked me well, you don't have to because I understand that. But if somebody's questioning us saying, where are your success stories? They're expecting to see, well, I went into court and this judge bent over for me or whatever that kind of thing is. And the problem is what I'm trying to do is all of you know is keep you out of a courtroom setting because you don't belong in there for the most part. Maybe occasionally something happens that you do wrong, but for the most part, you don't belong in there, and there's no reason. So that's what he was looking for, Boris. But you're right. All of us are success stories, but, I can't put him in I I couldn't say, alright. We'll call Bori over there on the East Coast. He'll he'll give you one.
So, anyway, you're right, Bori. We're all success stories, but it's not overt. You know, it's not overt. We haven't had to overcome anything. Your your success story is Bory got him out of the tax system, and he got to go back to Puerto Rico and visit his family for the first time ever on a real vacation. Those are the kind of things that he's looking for. Who was, who was saying something there?
[01:18:55] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yes. This is Aloysius. Aloysius.
[01:19:00] Unknown:
Boy, I think we've spoken
[01:19:03] Unknown:
we haven't spoken before, have we? I've got you, but I'm saying we haven't spoken. Okay. Aloysius. Well, hell, that's a heck of a name they hung on you. It's a nice one. Different. How you doing? How'd you find us? And what part of the country are you in, please?
[01:19:19] Unknown:
So I'm in Minnesota, and I'm new. Oh,
[01:19:22] Unknown:
okay. Good. We're glad to have you, Aloysius.
[01:19:26] Unknown:
So I have a little bit of a story here.
[01:19:29] Unknown:
Okay. Good. Let's hear it.
[01:19:33] Unknown:
Okay. So, I well, I became a national. I've been listening to your for a view for about, oh, probably four or five months now. And, I became a national here probably four months ago. And, I was always kind of aware of what's going on, but so I I, did the file the affidavit with the secretary of state, got the green card, file it with the secretary of state in the state of Minnesota, and, the IRS got my cards back. Haven't heard no rebuttal. But, on Sunday, I was coming home. I was coming back from a cabin up in Northern Minnesota, and, I was, I was coming out to a state highway, and I decided to pass a vehicle before I got there so I didn't have to follow him. So I speeded up and went around the vehicle and made a legal pass and come up to the stop sign and stop.
Looked to my right, I seen a highway bull, and, I just seen that he was there and, no dig. So I took a left and was going down the highway state highway. And, about 10 miles down the road, I, I see a highway bull coming at me. So I, I just acknowledge he's there, and I look. Well, he turned around, and he has two vehicles behind me. So one of the vehicles turned off, so I kept going. He passed that one. Now he's behind me. I know I'm getting pulled over. So I, lights go on. I pull over. I rolled out my window, and, the officer comes up to me and he goes, he goes, you know why I'm stopping you? And I says, I don't have a clue.
He goes, well, you were called in for, going through a stop sign and driving down the wrong side of the road. I looked at him and said, that's not the case. That never happened. He goes I says, he goes, well, he says, do you have a driver's license? And I and I still carry a driver's license at this point. I am working on getting my cars out and and gonna go without a license and start driving without registration and stuff, but I'm just not there yet. So I had a license, and I I handled my license. And I said, so I don't know that you have a right to pull me over. Yeah. I think you're violating me. And he goes, well, he goes, well, if I get a number if I get a call and I get a phone number, he goes, I can legally pull you over.
And I said, well, I don't know that that's right. But he goes, well, he goes, why are your eyes so glossy? And I says, my eyes are always glossy and red. He goes, have you been drinking? Then I says, well, I had one beer earlier today. Oh, he goes, do you have proof of insurance? I says, no. But I have insurance on the vehicle. He goes, well, who you insured through? So I told him he goes, he goes, you mind stepping out? I wanna do a sobriety test. I says, I'm not getting out of my vehicle. He goes, well, he goes, where are you going? And I says, well, I'm heading towards towards home.
He goes, he goes, well, let me let me, let me I'm gonna have your license. I'll be right back. So he walked back to the squad car. He wasn't in there two minutes. He turns around and walks back, and he says and I don't know I don't know what my license did or what, and I'm that's what I'm asking to see if anything could've showed up here. He says, he says, I'm gonna consider this traffic stop complete. He goes, you go on and have a good day. And I I just kinda said, well, I didn't appreciate you a waste of my time, you know, because I don't think you had a a a right to be pulling me over. And then he, he goes, well, you just have a good day.
So I pulled out on the road, and I went down the road. He followed me for a few miles. Alright. Alois is hold on. Hold on. Because we you dropped out for a minute.
[01:23:32] Unknown:
You you got to the point where he he said, where are you going? And I'm going to and I think you clipped out. Can you pick it up there and tell us the story again?
[01:23:43] Unknown:
Okay. So so after he came back okay. Was that that was before he went and ran ran my license? Okay. So Yeah. He went so he took my license and went back to the car, and he wasn't back there. I know it couldn't have been two minutes. And he turns around, and he starts walking right back up to my car. And he and he and he hands me my license and says, I'm gonna call this traffic stop complete. And I just I said, I don't really, you know, you appreciate your rest I mean, pulling me over and wasting my time when you didn't have a, you know, a legit reason to pull me over. And he and he kind of backpedaled and said why he had kinda pulled me over, but he says, you just go and have a good day. So then I I I took off my car and I drove down the road, and he followed for me for a few miles, and then he turned off. I I'm just wondering if if when he ran my license, if he's seen something that that said that I was a national or something because it was because he had me. I mean, he know I admitted to drinking, which I was not drunk. I've only had a couple beers the whole day.
I I I did not have proof of insurance. I denied his sobriety test. He went back to his car, ran my license, and within two minutes came back and said, I'm calling to stop complete. Have a good day. Did I lose you?
[01:25:08] Unknown:
I don't think he wanted to do the paperwork.
[01:25:10] Unknown:
Do do I got you, Roger?
[01:25:13] Unknown:
Let me see if Roger's still there. Nope. Roger dropped off a Zoom. Might might be a problem with, his connection, and we'll see if he, we'll see if he comes back. I, it's really interesting, but I was spending a little bit of time last night looking at, like, what is it? Harrison Law or whatever. Some, some YouTube videos. And, what the skinny was, as far as he said, was that, roadside sobriety tests are designed for you to fail them even if, you are absolutely stone cold sober. Sixty five percent of the people will fail them anyway. They have to have in order to escalate from a reasonable suspicion, they have to have, six things that they had noticed.
Word speech, glassy eyes, eyes starting back and forth, balance problem, whatever. They have to have six things, six qualifiers before they can even ask you to do a roadside sobriety test or, blow into their little breathalyzer. So, what was suggested on that video, and I suggest people go look for it. Just search YouTube for how to handle cops at a DUI, or at a DWI checkpoint. They suggest that you refuse any testing or answering any questions without an attorney present. And number two, if they insist on a blood test, you go with them. They will arrest you.
They will impound your car, but they will do the the, blood test. But even that, there are, like, six things that can disqualify a blood test. So you always, request a private, an independent blood screen. And, you know, you're gonna wind up going to court, but if you dot all your i's and cross all your t's, you will win. And, you know, it'll take about a year. It'll take about a year of your life, but you won't lose your license and your insurance rates won't go up and all this happy stuff. Now if you do it the way they do it, the odds are stacked against you. Doing the roadside sobriety test, and failing it, they are building a case on you where you will actually lose your license instead of a thirty, sixty, or ninety days suspension for refusal.
You will actually lose your license altogether, and you might wind up with heavy fines, court fees, and jail time. So you really, really gotta be careful how much information you give a cop on the side of a road.
[01:28:39] Unknown:
He's not your friend. But I but I I I was definitely not under the influence. There was no question. Right. Well I only had I only had two beers in the past two and a half hours.
[01:28:53] Unknown:
But yeah. Right. But there are all there are all kinds of other things, particularly in states where where recreational weed is legalized. Okay? There are all kinds of other reasons where even you you can blow a zero point zero zero, and they can still arrest you for driving under the influence. They just didn't find what you were under the influence of. And how they make their case is the six key things that they notice and and the breath test and a blood test. Blood test takes six to nine months to come back. It's not a not a convenient, easy, quick thing.
[01:29:33] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:29:34] Unknown:
So, definitely go to YouTube.
[01:29:38] Unknown:
I was wondering, though, if he if he probably if he's seen something that I'm a national when he ran my license and knew that I I was and just allowed to let me go. I don't know if that was it or not. That was my kind of my question. Question is, did you notice the DMV? So what do you mean by that? When you became a national,
[01:30:00] Unknown:
when you filed your national affidavit and you put your local agencies DMV. You did or didn't?
[01:30:09] Unknown:
No. No. But I did. I did. Secretary of State Minnesota, Keith Ellison.
[01:30:16] Unknown:
Okay. If you didn't notice the DMV, I mean, the Department of Motor Vehicles, it's a private entity. It's a government services corporation, and they are all organized under the AAMVA, which is, the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. It's a a m v a Org. They are far and away separate from anything that has to do with the state. They are just a revenue vehicle. They are just Okay. They're just they're they're a moneymaker. That's how they fund the state. So but I would Okay. I would suggest anybody go to YouTube and look at all of these lawyers that are doing, this is how you answer questions if a cop is standing outside your door.
This is when or when you don't answer questions. When do you, exercise your right to remain silent? How do you do it? When do you, or don't you submit to roadside sobriety test? Because like you said, sixty five percent of them, are failed by people that have had absolutely zero to drink. And that and we're also getting reports that, electromagnetic pollution messes with the, messes with, person's balance. So if you're anywhere near a cell phone tower or anything like that and the squad cars, they are just, they are radio equipped to beat the band, that your balance is going to be compromised, no matter what you do.
So it's just, you gotta research. You gotta, you you gotta put as many yeah.
[01:32:11] Unknown:
Okay. Well, this is Larry. I'd just like to encourage the student about a couple of things. Actually, all students. If you're ever stopped by an officer, make sure their body cam is on by asking them. Overcheck. Ask them for their name and badge number, and then crack your window down only a few inches. You're only required in all states to crack your window down a little bit and keep your other windows up because, if you put another window down, that creates a crosswind, and then, of course, they're gonna claim, oh, I smell marijuana or whatever. So just cracking one window prevents that. And then you always ask the question, am I being detained? Am I free to go? And if he says no, you know, then you gotta deal with it, and try to try and just keep asking those questions. And do not ever answer questions. Have you been drinking?
Do I need you could ask him, am I legally and lawfully required to answer that question? Of course, they're gonna say no, or you could just not answer it at all. And then keep your hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. And if you have to reach for some, you let the officer know what you're doing. Right. So those are some suggestions I would I would incorporate. Hey, Larry. Yep.
[01:33:32] Unknown:
Larry, that was one thing that he said in the video. He can the cop can skip all of the other, contributing evidence, before a roadside sobriety test by your admission of drinking anything at all. Doesn't matters. You you could say I had a beer yesterday. Because you admitted to consuming alcohol anytime within the last twenty four hours, the cop is then justified to remove you from the car and submit you to roadside sobriety test or a blood draw. So you never ever ever admit you asked them, like you said, am I legally obligated to I am I legally and lawfully obligated to answer that question?
And when the cop says no Mhmm. They say then, I exercise my right to remain silent and will not be answering any questions without an attorney present. That's it. Mhmm. This is this is, this is not a game, folks. You know, they're funding the entire state with your answers on the side of the road, And you ain't gonna you ain't gonna get a fair shake. That's for sure.
[01:34:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I I definitely wouldn't have answered that question. Oh, absolutely. Or any other. But what you could have done, I think, of course, your explanation is ad hoc here. I don't know, but I would have pushed him big time on his reasons for pulling you over when he said it was there's a certain somebody or this or that. I would have tried to get all that information from him, and, hopefully, that's all recorded. Like Larry said, that Cam's on. He knows he's lying and committing perjury probably right there, so that's And that's probably why
[01:35:37] Unknown:
and that's probably why he backed off. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Alright. Well, thank you. I was just guy kinda curious what went on there. I just was wondering if that if he would had noticed that I was sovereign or not, but apparently not. That was not the case. So it had to do something. He didn't have probable cause to pull me over.
[01:35:56] Unknown:
Either that or he just didn't wanna mess with it. Maybe it was almost quitting time.
[01:36:01] Unknown:
I don't know. Did I did Paul, did I hear right when he said that the police said that somebody call him and with the telephone, and he had to check this out?
[01:36:11] Unknown:
No. He's he's steady.
[01:36:15] Unknown:
Yep. I would have asked him if you have a phone number. If if you have a report and somebody's telephone number, why don't you go on back to your car and call them and talk to them and figure out how far their head is up their butt? Because I've got dashcam footage to prove that they're that they're lying.
[01:36:32] Unknown:
They were lying through all his ears. Smoke was coming out of his mouth.
[01:36:37] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey, Paul. Police are allowed to lie.
[01:36:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I know that. But they fully expect you to tell the truth.
[01:36:47] Unknown:
They have a license to lie.
[01:36:49] Unknown:
And being honest with the cop will not get you any brownie points. Anything and everything you say can and will be used against you.
[01:37:03] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you guys for your time.
[01:37:05] Unknown:
You're welcome. Well, I don't I wonder where we're gonna go from here because Roger still hasn't been able to, rejoin us on on Zoom, and I'm yes.
[01:37:20] Unknown:
That that's probably a good question to ask them right off. Are you lawfully capable of asking me and telling me lies?
[01:37:33] Unknown:
Well, yeah. It is we call it engaging in disinformation for the during the course of an investigation. And then if you ask him maybe use their terms.
[01:37:44] Unknown:
Well, right. And then that's what does that mean? Does that mean that you could lie to me?
[01:37:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Just ask him. Are you able to disin to engage in disinformation for the purposes of, investigation? And if he says yes, then you then you ask him, am I lawfully required to assist you with that investigation? And it of course, he's gonna say no. And then you can say, well, in that being the case, thank you for your honesty. I exercise my right to remain silent and will not be answering any questions or providing any further documentation without an attorney present.
[01:38:30] Unknown:
Am I free to leave? I would ask him if, if he had a legal, lawful license.
[01:38:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, yeah, maybe. Could be.
[01:38:47] Unknown:
Hello?
[01:38:48] Unknown:
Okay. Where do we wanna go now?
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Hello?
[01:38:54] Unknown:
Hello? Come on. Let
[01:38:56] Unknown:
me What are you there? This is Jesse.
[01:39:00] Unknown:
Somebody else is talking.
[01:39:03] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
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On just a second, Jesse. Who is that who is that out there?
[01:39:13] Unknown:
This is, Jeff from Pennsylvania, new caller.
[01:39:17] Unknown:
Okay. Hi, Jeff.
[01:39:21] Unknown:
Hi.
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I don't mean to take a short turn from the conversation. It's a very good one, by the way, but I understand Roger kinda dropped off. But I don't know if any of you guys can maybe answer this question. Pretty elementary. Pretty new to this. I've been following Roger for about two months now. I'm definitely versed in the common law, but as far as this repatriation process. I have a few questions, if you don't mind, a few minutes, you know, of everybody's time. It's in in regards to filling out the passport. May seem a little bit redundant or elementary or simple, but I just want to get everything sharpened to a tee. I'm going to proceed with that very soon.
And I just want to run down a few questions on the list here I wrote down. Now I've seen a lot of different approaches to this, and I know people that have done this with success. But it wasn't through Rogers method, you know, the simple one or two sentence, affidavit and cover letter. They with the first page they talk about whether or not to capitalize your name, lowercase your name. As far as mailing address, in care of or rural free delivery, check note all The U. S. Citizen questions, all rights reserved where you sign in the lower right hand corner of page one. Now these are questions. I just want to run it by you to see what you would do, your suggestions, and then country off to the right next to ZIP code, USA, if it says if outside of The United States and they specify USA.
Up above there in the gray area to the right, end number 09. What what's your thoughts on that, and what would you suggest and what have you done? Those of you who should, submitted this paperwork.
[01:41:11] Unknown:
And and what is this for? The passport application?
[01:41:15] Unknown:
This is a 11.
[01:41:18] Unknown:
Okay. The 11. Alright. That's too much. Alright. Who's that? Somebody wanna add something? You're you're you're roboting out. You've got a really, really bad, You you sound like a robot. We can't understand a word you're saying. Can you get into a better position or climb a tree or something? I cannot understand a word you're saying. Can you can you climb a tree or something like that?
[01:42:03] Unknown:
Climb a tree? That actually sounds pretty cool if there was a song.
[01:42:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We can understand a word you're saying. You're you're you're breaking up.
[01:42:19] Unknown:
Oh, international. Get your
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Who is this?
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That's somebody else. I'm still here. I'm just listening like you Yeah. Getting it real broken up.
[01:42:37] Unknown:
Yeah. That's Arliss.
[01:42:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I only heard two words out of all of that.
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Right. Arliss, we we can't understand a word you're saying. You're you're breaking up really, really bad. Get into a better place and, try to, do it again later. Alright? Okay. With the d s 11, the copper moonshine still says, check no to any questions regarding citizenship of your parents. Mhmm. The, Rogers' take on that is they take passport fraud very, very seriously. And, if any entity, if any agency is going to hold your feet to the fire for perjury and passport fraud, it would be the secretary of state. So, I would answer those questions truthfully to the best of your knowledge.
And, if you want to provide, supporting documentation, you can state, like, with a cover letter that, you answered each question on the application true truthfully and correctly to the best of your knowledge and recall recollection. That if that anything on that application that turns out to be incorrect, you ask for, guidance in correcting the error and proceeding. That way, if if your mom was a citizen, but your dad wasn't or whatever, it doesn't matter. Answer them truthfully and correctly. It's not an access to the system if you say, yes. My parents were, were citizens of The United States because your citizenship is by birth, where your feet landed.
Okay? And because it's the feudal system, if they were slaves, it's presumed that you were a slave, but that's still rebuttable. It's a rebuttable presumption. As far as, you know, any fancy dance that you wanna do with your name or or capitals or anything like that, none of that matters because none of those are are nexuses to the system. They're all patriot mythology. They've got patriots jumping through hoops to avoid, the gold fringe flag or to avoid the all caps name or, this, that, and the other thing. Alright? The only thing that matters the only thing that matters is the fact that you attach an affidavit stating that you are a national and not a citizen of The United States and that that affidavit is put in your permanent administrative file. It's the only thing that matters.
You can fill out the application in crayon as long as they can as long as they can read it. You know? And so don't get hung up on the don't get hung up on the little things, other nuances, because the important thing is that affidavit and that single sentence. Okay?
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Yep. Would you, or Rod, you, whoever students, would you recommend, you know, citing some Supreme Court rulings with to reinforce that a little bit in the cover letter? I wouldn't I wouldn't do that because according to the
[01:46:26] Unknown:
INA and by their own admission and, by their own statutory language that, the term resident is a rebuttable presumption and that, nationals owe permanent allegiance to a small estate. It's all in their paperwork. You don't have to try and educate them. You just you do it because you can. And if they send you a bluff letter saying, well, we don't think you can do this, then you hit them with the evidence. But as far as the original passport application, filing a 31 page affidavit just with a passport application, they're never gonna process that to put it on the back of the desk and wait until they're damn good and ready to do it. You know what I mean, Vern? Yep. I've seen
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repudiation, the affidavits and, like, I I did read it, but it's like I don't I think it'll exhaust them or it'll bore them before they have a chance
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to react to it.
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And and it's not like these guys are Einstein's. I don't think they'd be able to understand half the stuff that you send them. Don't bother. Paul
[01:47:34] Unknown:
Paul, can you put those authorities in the chat you just mentioned about the rebuttable presumption of a resident? You said three of them?
[01:47:44] Unknown:
That's all that's all stuff that's, like, according to the INA, you know, all The US citizens are are US nationals, but not all US nationals are US citizens. It also states that, noncitizen nationals are American Samoans and, Swains Island and Northern Mariana Islanders, and it states categorically that national with a small n, okay, owes permanent allegiance to as small as state. Says it right there. It's it's right in their own foreign affairs manual for Grand Ole. So I I don't think you'll have to point it out. And all that stuff is in the examples.
All the all those things are in the examples that will be thrown in the chat or, are up in the recents folder on docs.exposethematrix.com. I have uploaded everything that Larry sent me to the recents folder in docs.exposethematrix.com. Just, just, sort, by date in reverse order, and it'll put those two items right at the very top of the page. Easy peasy. So where else can we go?
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Also, Chris Christie wasn't able to put her document in the chat about a half hour ago. Perhaps you could. She sent she was gonna email it to you.
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You could just figure it out. Well, let me check my email and see if it actually made it. Nope. Don't see it. Did you send it to [email protected]? P g b I e n e r at g mail dot com.
[01:49:42] Unknown:
Hold on a second, Paul. Let me get that. I sent it there was a David that had requested it, so I emailed it to him. Okay. I'll get your email, and I'll send it. Okay. Go ahead.
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It's [email protected].
[01:50:09] Unknown:
Okay. I'll send that right now.
[01:50:12] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. And then I'll I'll drop it in the confirm when you I'll drop it in the chat.
[01:50:18] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Oh, no problem. Happy to do it. Yeah. Bring up, email on the other computer in a box. Wow. I certainly hope that, I certainly hope that whatever issue Roger's having that's keeping him out of Zoom, doesn't, continue because that would throw a monkey wrench into the Paul English live show if we can't get that straightened out. So where else can we go for the last eight minutes of the program? Come on.
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We gotta be Did anyone watch that, video for two hours, the premiere yesterday? That was really quite freaking awesome, and it really covers a lot that you cover here in a bigger picture. That was really pretty dang awesome.
[01:51:15] Unknown:
The the Lake Julie sent? Yeah. Yesterday. Right? And during the after show, I think it was, maybe. Right. I I didn't have an opportunity to watch it, but I did download it.
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But I have heard really really that. Yeah. I watched the whole two hours. Really had some powerful stuff. I liked it. Yeah.
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Cool. Thank you. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah. I have heard really, really good things about it. Julie, if you're with us, a lot of the anonymouses have gotten, muted, just, squelching.
[01:51:51] Unknown:
I'm an anonymous. Hi, Paul.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Alright. So you watched that. Can you, give people a heads up on on what that was about?
[01:52:05] Unknown:
Oh, it's about your digital concentration camp. And and and and, he's right. Who was that talking before? I'm sorry. I Scotty. Tuned in. Yeah. Scotty. It was, the thing about it that's good is it put it it, like, consolidates everything. Everything that we've been hearing, it puts all the pieces of the puzzle together. So I highly recommend everybody to watch that, documentary and to spread it far and wide. So it just talks about it it puts together everything from the food to the water to the, just to everything. And it just, like I said, consolidates the whole thing. So I think people will really, get an idea about their plan.
And it's little less than two hours long.
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And some of the wording was amazing. I'm gonna relisten to it and take notes and use some of that wording in some of my documents. You know, really just well because I'm not good with words. So, yeah, that was really great that you recommended that. But it killed my afternoon. I was shot after watching it.
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I was I was too, Scotty. I was absolutely but I already knew what to know, and we just have to have have faith over fear because we're all in this together. And the more we can get this out, I love the ending of it. Catherine Austin fits her words, I will not comply. That was her words at the end, and she said they'll either have to come and get me or God will come and get me. And Amman Javi's words, I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. It was it was so amazing.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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People. Yep. To not comply. That's the goal of getting this viral. Get everybody out to say no, and, it's not gonna work.
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Hey, Paul. Yes, Bruce.
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Can you put that back in the chat? I missed that. I cut my phone off accidentally, and I didn't get the
[01:54:21] Unknown:
For for, for for, Bruce, for for everybody that, I don't have a I'm driving, so I don't have a way to write it down for people who are not on Zoom or on FCC. It's it's you go to YouTube and you type in Oracle films, and it's called the agenda. And, it's it's your future, their your future, their plan, or something like that. I don't remember what the tagline is,
[01:54:52] Unknown:
but it's the agenda that even as we speak. Of the film. Yeah. I'm I'm dropping I'm dropping the link in the chat even as we speak. There we go.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
Sketch got it too, I think. Because I think something If I may. Phone. Is that true? Me too, and I was trying to put it in the chat, but I did put another video in the chat I spoke about the other day about national status. It's just part it's something I found on Facebook, and it's a series. I think anybody's learning this status stuff. I say that that info info in that video, I I'll label it, is on par with what Roger teaches with the in-depth. Some people are just great teachers. And, anyway, yeah, I think anyone studying the status stuff as you all do, will find usable information in those videos. So I'll I'll label I put that in there. You you put that in the chat?
Yeah. I just put it in the chat. It's a YouTube link. Okay. Alright. Thank you. One of a series that'll play. I listened to, like, five of them, and they're all equally powerful as the first one. So you give it a little heads up as I'd like to get some opinion of some Okay. With even higher knowledge. Hey. How are you? Okay.
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Is that talking about Palantir or what?
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No. Nothing to do with Palantir that I know of. I didn't really know what that was until I saw the links in the chat yesterday. I thought it was the actor from, that, Bronx Tale movie.
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Okay.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
Paul, for everybody who wants to know specific details about all the contractors and all the technology that's being built, get on, YouTube and and type in Whitney Webb, w h I t n e y space w e b b. She's got all the goods out on all of these people. Like, the lit like, like, the details.
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Okay.
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Could you repeat that, please?
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Yes. It's Whitney, w, h as in hello, I, e, e as in elephant, y space w, e as in elephant, b as in boy, b as in boy, Whitney Webb. She's got two, books that I think are about to get banned on, Amazon that just came out, but she exposes a lot.
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Thank you. You can Okay. You can also check out Technocracy Rising or Technocracy.News. That guy's been out there for, you know, more than a decade exposing, you know, all of that stuff and, you know, naming players and and everything. I can't think of his name. It's the name of an actor, or similar to some actor. I can't think of his darn name. It's right on the tip of my tongue. It's not Mel Gibbs. It's not Mel Gibson, is it? No. No. No. No. It's, I'll think of it. But, you know, I I Brent sent me that link, Julie, that you put out there. And I watched or I listened to it last night. And I don't know, not too long into it. You know, there was, like, one or two commercials, you know, that I I can't really control because I'm on a little flip phone. But I let them play through, and it's it came back on. And then right after that, there was this this rap, this black dude rapping, and he used the n word about 50 times in this video. And it didn't it it didn't play as a commercial.
It played as though it was part of that that movie. Did anybody else get that?
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I I don't think so. I think that was an ad.
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Yeah. It was probably I I I text I'm I'm telling you, it came right the movie came right back on, and it was like, wow. Was that part of that movie? Because it was all about what, you know, he was rapping about what the movie was about. It was so weird. And I texted Brett. I said, did did you insert that or what? For me? He said, what did he he didn't know what I was talking about. You gotta check it out. I said to check that link that that Julie's that you sent me because it was in it. Anyway, I yield. You you know what? May maybe it wasn't it. I I don't recall. I have to go back and rewatch it and take notes.
[01:59:24] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we're at the end of the program for today. We lost Roger about thirty five minutes ago. I wanna thank everybody for, stepping up and helping me actually, fill in the, bedspots. So this is all about your freedom, and this is all about you. Thank you everyone so much for being with us today. That does it for Euro Folk Radio. I'm gonna let the music play us out, and then, we'll be continuing on Global Voice Network. Ciao.
[02:00:07] Unknown:
Okay, guys. We're off with, because when you watched it live, it just played right through. You couldn't pause it either to write stuff down.
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Thanks, Paul. And Whitney Webb's website is unlimitedhangout.com in the chat. Yep.
[02:00:23] Unknown:
Yep. And that's hangoutswithansasinSam. Hey, Paul. Did you get my email and my text messages about the mishap with the, interview that Roger was supposed to do? And I think it's I think this is Yes. I did. Spam items. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yes. I did. Roger looked. Roger didn't see it.
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He had only gotten one email from him, and that was, talking about, like, Sunday or or whatever or something like that. So, they're still working on setting it up for next week. And with any luck, if I can, raise Roger, we'll have him set up for being on the Paul English live show for the second and third hour. So I'm gonna have to, duck out of here and let, let you guys take over. The stream is still running on Global Voice, but, I'm gonna duck out of here and let, let you guys take it while I track down Raj and see if I can figure out what happened.
[02:01:40] Unknown:
That'll be four to 6PM eastern time, Paul? Yes. It will. It'll be four to six eastern. Because I've been out of touch with this for a while. I I'm glad that I'm able to come back and have some time to I just was too overwhelmed. I I really wasn't participating in any shows too too many.
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Mhmm. Anyway Well, during even Jack is with us. Jack, do you have any way to, ring Roger's phone locally there in Ecuador, see maybe what happened.
[02:02:14] Unknown:
I think the power went out. The phone with it. He lost his Internet.
[02:02:20] Unknown:
He lost his Internet?
[02:02:23] Unknown:
Yeah. His Internet went down.
[02:02:26] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, let's let's hope they bring it back pretty quickly. I will let, Paul English know that, he's having Internet problems.
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Does that mean his phone is out also? Is his phone coming from the Internet?
[02:02:46] Unknown:
No. No. I'm sure that's not from the Internet. Right? Once we get him a magicJack, yeah, the magicJack will go down.
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Yeah. His voice on the IP, WhatsApp, malfunction with the on it now.
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What was that, Jack?
[02:03:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Of course. His, magicJack or his WhatsApp will not function without Internet or Wi Fi connection.
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Right. Okay.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
But but we do need to get him a magicJack. He seems really, desperate to have one.
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I ordered one myself. Hasn't shown up yet. But
[02:03:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I got one in, 02/2007, '1 of the first customers.
[02:03:42] Unknown:
Well, Roger and I Even my landline comes from the Internet.
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Right.
[02:03:48] Unknown:
Yeah. MagicJack is hard to do. Hey, Paul. I was looking into that magicJack years ago, and they said I couldn't get on conference calls with it.
[02:03:58] Unknown:
Well, it doesn't doesn't matter. What he's trying to do is he's trying to just communicate with people. Jack, can you, can you make, 800 number calls on a magicJack?
[02:04:12] Unknown:
Yes. Yes.
[02:04:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then that covers it. That's that's really all Roger needs is to be able to talk to people in The States and to be able to call international 800 numbers. So it's all good.
[02:04:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, there you go. He gets Patrick Willis.
[02:04:33] Unknown:
Everybody Sorry. Another month to speak to him, try to get on WhatsApp, because he has that, and he knows how to use it. So for the time being until we get him a magicJack, WhatsApp is, is an alternative for the moment.
[02:04:49] Unknown:
Okay. Excellent. Thank you very much. So okay. The, stream is down. And, Julie, if you could mute yourself, I think there's some air noise coming in with this,
[02:05:10] Unknown:
if if we're done talking. Patrick Woods is the Technocracy Rising guy. Patrick Woods Technocracy Rising dot com or Technocracy.News.com or not .com, just .news. Anyway, he's really good, and he's been chasing after this since, like, 2000 or 02/2001. You know, maybe even earlier, in the nineties, I think. Maybe I heard him talking about that, but, he's good. So check him out too at iYield.
[02:05:44] Unknown:
Excellent. Alright. Thank you, Dave. Okay. I'm gonna mute you guys. Yes, sir. Yeah. Larry are you guys Larry
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or Jesse? Nice, Paul.
[02:05:59] Unknown:
He's Jesse. Okay. Who are you? Paul, Larry, or Jesse?
[02:06:03] Unknown:
I'm Jesse.
[02:06:05] Unknown:
Larry Moe. Larry Moe. Curly the cheese.
[02:06:10] Unknown:
You're over the place. But, anyways, in the old, in the oldtravel.com and, Wayback Machine, the wording about who could apply for passport is a little bit different. And, and it sometimes seems to me a little bit more accurate or more, more understanding for the new babies. I'm gonna put it in the chat room. But one of the paragraph says, as the title of the certificate indicates, only a person who qualify as a noncitizen national, a person who is a US national but not a US citizen, is eligible to apply for SHOT certificate. And when you look at the new one, it says a little bit different. So I think they removed this part, but, to me, it sounds more, better for the new baby to understand. I'm gonna put it in the chat room.
[02:07:00] Unknown:
The the only sentence that we need to be concerned about is a national owes permanent allegiance to a small estate. That is there's three definitions there. Actually four. There's US citizen, there's US national, there's noncitizen national, and simply national. There are four political statuses in that paragraph, And the only one that applies to us is national, small n of a small s state. That's it.
[02:07:38] Unknown:
What I like about this one, and when you look at your passport book, is you needed to do it in a practical sense because most people don't understand. And I agree with you a %. Those but when you put them and you see they are eligible because most people, they think there's only one US citizen or there's only one, status. So when you point your finger to the passport or this one I just put there in your in the chat room, and you say, you see? Also, there's another stat at national. I have tried many times and your eyes open because most, common people, 99%, they cannot imagine there's another status.
So in a practical sense, more realistic for new babies, I've been doing it that way and has worked with me a lot.
[02:08:23] Unknown:
Well, can you imagine how quickly their head would explode if you actually pointed out in one sentence or in one paragraph that there are actually four political statuses? Their head would explode. There's four of them. Which one are you? You think you're this one. You think you're The US citizen because when your feet hit the ground, the fourteenth amendment said you were a US citizen. But are you? Or are you a citizen of your original sovereign state where you were born? If you're a national Another thing. If you're a national I if you found a report go ahead. Alright. Go ahead. No. You go ahead.
[02:09:09] Unknown:
I found a report, and I'm gonna get it. And, what they're gonna, present it to the congress, The report, I think, was in March. The problem with all the regional passport agency or, I mean, the process centers, they were gonna build six new process center in the last four years. And they're having big issue with the recruits because they're not doing as much. It's like, 40 pages. And, so they came to conclusion that, for example, a lot of people can't get their passport on time or they don't have the paperwork, so they go to the congressman or to the senators. And one of the things that's getting all the passport behind, in many cases, is, they receive over, in the year '23, over 600,000, requests from senator what's going on with their, citizen passport.
So they had to remove personnel from one area to go now research what's happening to those. And those personnel, they were processing passports, and they have a quota and they get behind. And, and they're getting managers. And one thing happened, your photo is supposed to be only six months, valid. And sometime by the time they come back to your passport, nine months, eight months, twelve, a year and a half, now that, picture is, past the time limit. And, so they put now the regional manager to see to make it more easy to see if, okay, we'll accept this one. That's nine mile, but this one, we won't. So everything's chaotics.
They're supposed to do a hundred, and and the new recruits are only doing 40. That's getting them behind. So everything has got stagnant now with the new administration. So that report is being sent or already has, I don't know, to the congress to see what they're gonna do to make it more, more competent in that sense. And, so there you go. You got about over a million, way behind. Mhmm. And one of my family member is super behind, and they were both the same age, the same thing. And we got the other one pretty fast, and the other one we haven't, so we fell in the crack. So, it's very interesting. I'm gonna get that report and give it to you guys. And Larry, I see that he helps a lot of people. I'm gonna give it to him. But, it's very interesting. So they are, in the process of doing six more regional passport, process center.
Another thing. One more thing. All the walk ins they used to get, they're not doing it no more because they were removing personnel to receive the new walk ins. And, so that was getting them behind. And I think now with the new ID thing, now they are overloaded with all this. By the way, if anybody wants to get a job, I also found out that, they're looking for new recruits, and you only will get paid between a hundred and 50 and a hundred and $80,000 a year. So if anybody needs a job and, you'll have a lot of overtime, double time, up to twenty four hours a week. So if anybody is interested in working,
[02:12:17] Unknown:
there you go. But but I wouldn't wanna do that because then I would have to pay income tax.
[02:12:24] Unknown:
I'm just saying. Working for who?
[02:12:26] Unknown:
For the secretary of So why the regional profit center? Yeah. Because you're you're actually you're actually employed by the federal government or by an agency of the federal government, so you have to pay taxes because those are eight those are covered under, eight seventy one b or eight seventy seven b because you got your income from an entity that got its life from the federal government.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
So Well, for a year a year of getting a hundred and $80,000, we're in National one year only, and I'll put you back.
[02:13:07] Unknown:
They're gonna whack you about 60 g's in taxes anyway.
[02:13:12] Unknown:
Fuck. Just just doing paperwork the whole day.
[02:13:18] Unknown:
Local local, passport processing centers. They're all buried.
[02:13:25] Unknown:
Oh. They're all Oh, okay.
[02:13:28] Unknown:
So, hey. If you you wanna Hey, Paul. Go to work for the government, do it. You might clear a hundred and 20 g's. That's about five times how much I make. Anyways, yeah, Larry.
[02:13:44] Unknown:
I can't I can't do it. I can't work for timers.
[02:13:47] Unknown:
If you work for the Yeah.
[02:13:52] Unknown:
When, Jack said that, Roger's Internet he lost his Internet. Does that mean just the Internet connection? Because it's my understanding he has battery backup for his power. Is that correct?
[02:14:03] Unknown:
Yeah. His his Internet went down. Yeah. He he he dropped off of both, he dropped off of both remote control and Zoom at the same time, so I knew it was his Internet went down. If his power would have gone out He did. His his Internet router is actually plugged into his battery backup. His lights would have gone out and he would have made a comment about it, but he would have hit the ground running and just kept going with the shell.
[02:14:41] Unknown:
I just wanted to say something about Patrick Wood. He, for Dave, Dave yet, he did start a lot earlier, than that. He was actually an assemblyman in Santa Cruz, California government. And when they were doing their local business, he started to realize they were getting all of these outside influences steering what they wanted to do. And that's how he got started, and that was, like, 9394 in that area. And he he got into what he is today starting with that experience in local government seeing that there was a lot of restrictions on what they could do. He he was curious to find out where that power came from and what was going on.
[02:15:42] Unknown:
Is is Jeffy still with us?
[02:15:45] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am.
[02:15:47] Unknown:
Jeffy, we were talking earlier about, you know, success stories, and, I believe it was you. It's the one that always jumps into my mind. Wasn't it you that had the chief of police say that they did not have zero six in over you guys?
[02:16:08] Unknown:
Yes. Verbally.
[02:16:13] Unknown:
I don't know if your connection's bad. I can barely hear you. Do you hear me now? Faintly.
[02:16:21] Unknown:
What about now?
[02:16:22] Unknown:
That's a little better.
[02:16:25] Unknown:
Yes. It was Nutanix, verbally.
[02:16:29] Unknown:
That was an amazing story. I I saved that I saved that archive to this day because that is that is amazing story.
[02:16:38] Unknown:
I was like, but then he emphasized, you know, if you do something wrong, somebody died, kills you, you will still be process here. But that's obviously but, in the sense of whether calls or regulation, it seems that, they kneel. But that was after one hour of being gathered with many other officers. It was very interesting.
[02:17:11] Unknown:
Do you know who they made a phone call to?
[02:17:15] Unknown:
No. But I saw them, a group of them fighting and talking between each other, and they were in the in the phone. And I think, probably the attorney was one of them.
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Yeah. That's an amazing story when the law enforcement says, no. We do not have jurisdiction over you, and they get in their car and leave. That's powerful.
[02:17:40] Unknown:
Yeah. That was one very, very jumpy, young lady. She was terrifying in many ways. Larry, are you there?
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here.
[02:18:02] Unknown:
I'm gonna put in the chat room every morning. I think it'll be handy to many of you guys there, but I'm gonna put in the chat room. I don't have the time and, some things are over my head. And I think it'll be very useful because a lot of the complaints or or new babies, they don't understand. I think they're way behind. And you know that one of our case and our family member, you know it. So I think a lot of us were were falling the cracks because, maybe we need dodge in there. So I'm gonna put it in the shower so you can get it. It's like 40 pages.
But, some of the examples I gave is, it's just, better than if you read it yourself.
[02:18:53] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:19:33] Unknown:
And one of the things when you are in front of them, you need to be stand your ground, know your information, and, same thing when you send affidavit to the secretary of state, the less worrying, the less it would be. You don't need to send a page or two as Roger said. And the less you say when you're interacting with them, the less. And, and, if you're not used to that
[02:19:58] Unknown:
you'll tremble a little bit. You'll you'll feel intimidated. So you need to train yourself mind wise, especially for those guys that wanna shine as them in the driving thing. And on any any other things you have interactions. You need to train your mind, how will you react in different scenario, and repeat it when you're driving, repeat it and everything. And those and hear those this shows and I could relate all those, different scenarios,
[02:20:28] Unknown:
because sometimes trying to solve a problem. We usually overspeak or we'll talk too much, and that's when you get in trouble. As that gentleman, he confessed, I understood what he meant, but he did he was trying to be honest. And, and he confessed, and they'll use any little thing they could get against him.
[02:20:53] Unknown:
Well, I can add to the anything to use against them. I've been recording everything with these authorities. It's gonna be on the tenth. June tenth is gonna be twenty years that I've been a victim of police corruption. I always carried in my pocket a Walkman cassette recorder. Today is stink. They the quality is they're useless. But I always carried that invisible and let them see that. And a lot of times, I would shut it off. And that's when I would always get amazing stuff because I was at all the backup recorders, including, voice activated little recorders that you could just drop in between the seat if they're gonna impound the vehicle and stuff. So listening back to some of those recordings, like when I was in the police car once and in handcuffs, and the guy was in my van searching it, and I got him on video because he shut so the deal is you you gotta record them because they just come at you most cases last two years. You can never recall with great detail unless you have recordings to listen back and take notes. And then with those notes, you put it in your paperwork when done properly becomes a court of record. And that's where I've I've always had success even when I was a dumbass. All I had to know is that you could ask them questions. That's when the gates opened for me. That was Mark Stevens, one YouTube video.
Once I learned you could ask questions, the game began. And now I'm twenty years down the road, and now doors are opening. I don't even know who to go after. I can go after anyone I want. I've I've I'm I have the ability to make them go away. I've heard overheard them say many ways, many times, he's not like the rest of them. You're gonna have nothing but trouble with that guy. I've heard them say things like that so many times. So you gotta record them in order to get your facts straight and then convert it to writing. And that's where the game, instead of defense, becomes offense.
So I'm gonna yield there because you have to have something to use against them, and you'll never know what you're gonna get till you got a recorder that's in the truck they just towed. K? I didn't even listen back to that to see what I got in that. But I'll yield there. Thank you, Scotty. Thank you.
[02:23:16] Unknown:
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[02:24:19] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Acknowledgments
Platforms and Syndication
Technical Difficulties and Communication Issues
Listener Engagement and Feedback
Bluff Letters and Passport Applications
Handling Government Correspondence
Traffic Stop Experiences
Empowerment and Legal Challenges
Traffic Stops and Legal Rights
Passport Application Process
Technical Issues and Conclusion
